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There was a bogeyman
amongst us.
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And he was taking children
who look like us.
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McComas: I noticed in the front
seat a pair of gloves
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and a flashlight.
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Pearson: He fit
what they considered
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the profile of a serial killer.
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Drolet: Little bits of evidence
just keep adding up.
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Smith: How could he have done
all those things?
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Hello, and welcome
to "How It Really Happened."
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I'm Hill Harper.
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It was one of the most painful
chapters in Atlanta's history.
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Beginning in the summer of 1979,
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more than two dozen
Black children
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and young adults vanished
without a trace.
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Days, weeks, and in some
cases months later,
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they were found murdered.
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Parents were afraid to let their
children out of their sight.
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The city called for a curfew,
and a special task force
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was set up of more than
100 investigators.
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They believed many of
the murders were linked,
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but they had
no viable suspects.
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There were several theories.
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Could it be a serial killer,
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or someone in the community
the victims trusted,
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maybe a police officer,
or maybe the Ku Klux Klan?
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This is how it really happened.
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Bottoms:
Children were disappearing.
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They were walking to bus stops
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or they had been out
with their friends,
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and they were disappearing.
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Good evening.
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Another child has been found
murdered in Atlanta.
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Man: What was tying them
together
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were what you call victimology.
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They were all Black.
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They all had disappeared
under strange circumstances
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and then been discovered
murdered.
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Reporter: So, the search goes on
for yet another missing child.
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The police would say
that they didn't know
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whether they were looking
for one killer,
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for multiple killers.
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It'd had to be someone
who could move
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within the Black
community unnoticed.
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Procopio: Oh, it was
frustrating as hell.
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No crime scene. No evidence.
No witnesses.
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Automatically
people thought Klan.
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You went through
all these theories --
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that it was the Klan,
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that is was the police
or the authorities --
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someone who the kids
may have known
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or someone
who the kids didn't fear.
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How is he getting them
in the car?
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How is this person getting
control over these children?
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The last victims were found
in a body of water.
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That was an obvious attempt
to wash away any evidence.
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The guy is probably
throwing them off of bridges.
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And they said, "We want
to watch the bridges."
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And as luck would have it,
last night, last bridge,
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there's a splash.
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[ Water splashes ]
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He looks up.
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It was an old station wagon,
white in color.
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Droplet: It looked like
it was starting from
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a stopped position.
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So the car goes to the end
of the bridge.
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Little does he know
there's a police car
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hiding in the bushes.
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And the other surveillance team
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watched him go up and turn
around at the Starvin' Marvin.
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That's when the pursuit cars
had pulled him over.
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[ Siren wailing ]
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Reporter: He was first detained
early on the morning of May 22nd
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while driving over a bridge
across the Chattahoochee River.
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I said,
"My name's agent McComas.
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Do you know why
we've stopped you?"
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He volunteered immediately,
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"I'll bet this is about
those boys, isn't it?"
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Which was a very
interesting thing to say.
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And he expressed a displeasure
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in the media coverage
of the killings.
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Reporter: Yesterday,
there was much press coverage
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of the cases.
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We believe that the murderer
was paying
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very, very close attention
to all the media coverage.
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It really got my attention.
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I said, "Can we have consent
to search your car?"
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I noticed in the front seat
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a pair of gloves
and a flashlight.
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And as I looked in the back
on the floorboard,
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I noticed that there was a cord
that was knotted at both ends.
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About two foot long length,
which some people might think
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you could use as a ligature
for strangling somebody.
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That's when I ask him
if he would mind
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getting in the car
with me to talk a minute.
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And he was very pleasant.
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He told me that he was
a talent scout.
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He said he had an appointment
the next morning
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with two sisters,
Cheryl and Barbara Johnson
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that lived at Spanish
Trace apartments.
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He didn't know exactly
how to find it.
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And I said, "So let me
get this right.
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"You are out at 3:00
in the morning
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"trying to determine
where an address is
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so that you won't be late?"
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Drolet: Not a good explanation.
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McComas: He denied throwing
anything over.
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He denied stopping.
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All they had was they heard
this noise.
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[ Water splashes ]
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They believe it to be a body,
but they don't know.
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Procopio: It's two hours.
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We're pushing the envelope
in detaining him.
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Glover: And they didn't think
they had enough to arrest him.
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And so, they let him go.
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When he left, I looked
around and asked,
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"Where's the stuff
you took out of the car?"
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Didn't take the rope.
Didn't take anything.
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McComas: Why it didn't happen,
I-I don't know.
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Huge mistake.
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Reporter: The body of
Nathaniel Cater was found
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just down
from that same bridge.
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Reporter 2: Nathaniel Cater
fits the profile
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of the other murdered Blacks.
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Like 17 of the victims,
he was asphyxiated.
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The main exception is he's older
than the other victims.
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He was 27.
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The ages of the victims
are seemingly getting older.
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The fact of the matter is
we've had five young adults
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who have been killed.
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Peterson: Nathaniel Cater was
nude when pulled from the river.
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In his hair, there was a layer
of silt against the scalp,
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and there were fibers still
entrapped inside that silt.
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There was dog hair,
violet acetate,
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the green carpet fiber,
all in his head hair.
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That same trace evidence
was being turned up
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on one more than one victim.
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At that point, we knew we had
to talk to the guy
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that was on the bridge
that night.
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They think that the person had
thrown a body off the bridge.
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Reporter: Many Atlanta parents
aren't letting their children
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out of their sight
for one second,
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with the exception
of school hours.
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What we had here
was a predator.
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These children trusted
whoever they went to.
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And by the time they figured out
that they were not safe,
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they were already unable
to do anything about it.
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Now let us update you
on the missing
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and murdered children
in Atlanta
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and the possibility
of a suspect.
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Before that night,
when he was stopped
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on the James Jackson bridge,
we had no viable suspects.
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Reporter:
We're all down here standing
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outside the Federal Building.
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And from what we understand,
they have a suspect in custody
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that they're now interviewing.
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Procopio: He's not very tall.
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He's not very threatening
looking.
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There's no muscular
development at all.
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Who the hell is this guy?
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They ask him if he'd like
to take a lie detector test,
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and he says, "Of course."
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Dick Rackleff was one of
our very first polygraphers,
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one of the best of the best.
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Rackleff: Well, his personality
was very, very interesting.
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He was very composed,
very calm.
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"Here's what I wanna ask you.
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"Did you cause the death
of Nathaniel Cater?
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And did you throw his body
into the Chattahoochee River?"
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"No."
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Asked him if he was
nervous or anxious.
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"No."
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His hands were sweating
profusely
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and left little pools of water
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where he had been
holding his hands.
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Rackleff:
And we ran three charts.
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It showed deception.
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He fails it on all the key
questions,
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such as "Did you
murder Nathaniel Cater?"
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"Did you drop the body
of Nathaniel Cater
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in the Chattahoochee River?"
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And then he said,
"Am I under arrest?"
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They brought him in
for questioning
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to get him away from the house
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and served a search warrant
at the same time.
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That's when the first search
of the home occurred
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and also a search
of the station wagon.
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Reporter: Have you heard about
the raid
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on the suspect's home tonight?
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Woman: We understand there was
a raid this evening.
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They're not making
any further comment about it.
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Of course, none of the evidence
that had been seen the night
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he was stopped
on the bridge was still there.
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The rope and the -- the gloves.
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Drolet:
Those items were all missing.
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McComas: Entering the house,
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the first thing I'm looking for
is a green carpet.
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Reporter: For months now,
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the lab has
gathered mounds of possible
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evidence in these cases --
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everything from carpet
and blanket fibers to dog hair.
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McComas:
The green carpet fiber --
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I mean, I'd seen it so many
times from different victims.
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And there was a green carpet
in Williams' bedroom
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and throughout the house.
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Reporter: A search of the home
of the suspect
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in Northwest Atlanta tonight
yielded bags of evidence.
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But we were advised
that he was not going
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to be arrested that night.
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We have not nor do we intend
to make an arrest.
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For 11 hours last night,
Federal, State,
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and local authorities thought
that they had a man responsible
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for some of the 28 murders
of young Blacks in Atlanta.
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Peterson: But we needed more
information
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about the green carpet.
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The evidence was not fully
developed by any stretch.
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Reporter: The individual,
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whose name is
not being released by the media
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because no criminal charges
were filed against him,
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was returned
to his Northwest Atlanta
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home early in the morning.
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Surprisingly, he gets home,
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and he decides he's going
to call a press conference.
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He was telling his side
of the story.
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Drolet: But he says "You can't
film me, so don't show my face."
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The cameras are turned
on the reporters.
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It was just totally bizarre.
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Glover: He passed out résumés
to the press that morning,
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basically identifying himself.
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Droplet: And everybody looked at
that résumé and just thought,
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"What is this guy all about?"
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Suggs: Wayne Bertram Williams
was a 23-year-old
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part-time photographer,
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part-time music producer
who lived with his parents.
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Baltazar: Wayne Williams?
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A young Black man
doing all these killings?
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We just say, "No."
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Brooks:
There's no way in the world
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he could be involved
in anything like this.
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I mean, you know,
he's a perfect kid.
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Procopio: Only child.
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Mother Faye, father Homer,
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both educators
in the Atlanta school system.
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Smith: He had built his radio
station in his parents' home.
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small-Watt station,
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but he'd interviewed local
politicians and celebrities.
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At the time, I remember being
extremely impressed
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that a 13-year-old kid
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would have
a neighborhood radio station.
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He was even featured
in "Jet" magazine
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as, you know,
this young kind of wunderkind.
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He was kinda known as kinda
like this wannabe everything.
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He had been a cameraman
stringer.
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It would not be unusual for him
to show up at crime scenes.
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Reporter: This film of
a pre-dawn house fire
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was shot by Wayne Williams
and aired on Action News
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in October of 1978.
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And most recently, Williams says
he has acted as a talent scout.
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Williams: We have a young group
that we've been putting together
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since 1977,
a group called Gemini.
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So therefore, he came in contact
with young boys.
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Because Wayne, at the time,
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was trying to put together
groups like a Jackson 5.
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So he's going around passing out
his flyers, you know,
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"Can you sing or play
an instrument?"
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You know, "Call me."
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The kids knew him.
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He was offering them stardom.
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Well, police don't say he's
a suspect or a primary suspect,
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but the task force is still
keeping an eye on Williams.
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Williams: It was a mob scene.
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There were literally
200 or 300 people
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clustered around the house.
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Reporter:
Reporters and photographers
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have been camped out
across the street
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from this person's home
in Northwest Atlanta.
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I did not think that this case
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would get that far
in my naivete.
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And I was afraid, you know,
my God.
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"Wayne, are you the monster?"
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Woman: ♪ Jesus ♪
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Reporter: At the Mount
Olive Baptist church,
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friends and family gather to pay
their last respects
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to 27-year-old
Nathaniel Cater.
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The family and the authorities
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are all asking
the same questions now --
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why did it happen?
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Who murdered him?
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We needed to make sure
Wayne Williams
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doesn't get out of sight.
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Reporter:
When Wayne left briefly,
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a trail of cars
filled with local
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and federal agents
followed him.
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They're always present
outside the home.
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This kind of circus atmosphere
prevailed for 10 days or so.
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Ford: He liked messing
with the cops.
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He decided he was gonna
just drive
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into the international airport.
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The helicopter had to pull off
and go away
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because they couldn't follow him
into the airspace.
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That takes a lot of nerve.
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Our client's life and the lives
of his family and friends
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have become
a virtual nightmare.
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Hey, man, I'm asking you,
are you gonna quit following me
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or not?
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My orders are to stay
with the police.
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I'm not following you.
I'm following them.
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Well, hey, I'm telling you
to quit followin' me.
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'Cause I'm saying at this point,
you're followin' me,
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and you're on private property.
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And if I were you,
I'd get the hell off.
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They basically had him
under surveillance
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while they were
building the case.
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He fit the FBI profile.
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Single, Black, male, educated,
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living with his parents,
highly intelligent.
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A police wannabe.
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In 1976, he showed up at a scene
of a traffic wreck
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and he's taking pictures
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and he's got a blue light
and a siren,
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so they arrested him for
impersonating a police officer.
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Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
Describes Wayne.
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But you can't use
a profile in court.
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We had him on the bridge
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when the body
of Nathaniel Cater was thrown.
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Man: He just says, "I'm looking
for Cheryl Johnson."
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She never surfaced.
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The phone number that he said
he called for another business.
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What was he doing out at 3
in the morning?
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Reporter: Top law enforcement
officials met with the governor
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of Georgia, Mr. Busbee,
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at the governor's residence
on Friday,
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at the request
of Vice President Bush.
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To try to persuade Mr. Slaton,
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who was the district attorney,
to charge Wayne.
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Man: Louis Slaton was there,
the head of the GBI was there.
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McMichael: And at that time,
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Wayne was
still under surveillance,
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cameras around his house
And everything.
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We're all kind of watching
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Wayne to see if he was going
to do anything outrageous.
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Reporter: That's when Wayne
slipped past the police.
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People tried to chase.
He was enjoying this.
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He ended up in front of the home
of police commissioner
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Lee Brown.
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I think he got a kick out
of sort of toying
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with the folks
who were surveilling him.
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Reporter: Crime lab technicians
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are finding
promising similarities
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between fibers found
in Williams' house
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and fibers found on the bodies
of some of the child victims.
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I threw a sample of the green
carpet from the bedroom
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under the microscope,
and it just was -- there it is.
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And then there was a source
of dog hair.
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There in the back of the house,
tied up is Sheba,
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the family German shepherd.
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Peterson: And then the suspect's
bed was a violet
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and green bedspread.
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With the bridge incident
and with the strength of hairs
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and fibers,
I knew we had a good case.
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There was blood found
in the backseat
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of the station wagon.
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They were able to dig down
and cut out little pieces
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of the upholstery
from the backseat.
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There were two different types
of blood.
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The blood was still fresh.
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Man: At approximately 5:00 P.M.
this date,
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Wayne Williams was taken into
custody on an arrest warrant.
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We picked the best two cases
that we could tie to
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the James Jackson Parkway Bridge
where we found Williams.
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Man: Charging him with
the criminal homicide
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of Mr. Nathaniel Cater.
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Wayne Williams was subsequently
then charged
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with the homicide
of Jimmy Ray Payne.
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They were both found in close
proximity to that bridge.
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Reporter: When Cater was found,
he was nude.
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Payne was clad
in only undershorts.
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They were in the river,
but they said they found
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some of those fibers
on those two bodies.
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Peterson: The fibers were
adherent to the briefs.
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Both Jimmy Ray Payne
and Nathaniel Cater,
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they both had the green
carpet fiber that matched.
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I remember the news flash,
"suspect," da, da, da, da, da.
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And I saw him.
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Reporter: Williams was
the hottest possible suspect.
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And I started
putting stuff together
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'cause I remember the guy.
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Welcome back to
"How It Really Happened."
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Wayne Williams was charged
with killing two men
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whose bodies
were discovered floating
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in the Chattahoochee River.
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Unique fibers found on
the victims
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matched fibers found
in Wayne's home.
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Still, doubts were beginning
to emerge
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about how these cases were
connected to the other murders.
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Most of the victims
were children.
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Then there was Wayne himself,
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small in stature
and soft-spoken.
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Would he be physically
able to overpower
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and kill all of the victims
by himself?
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Or was somebody else
still out there?
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Reporter: According to public
safety commissioner Lee Brown,
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the special task force is still
working under the assumption
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that there is more
than one person involved.
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00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:57,070
Our resolve is to continue
our efforts
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until we bring closure
to all of the cases.
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Reporter: Atlanta's mayor
Maynard Jackson
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and President Reagan
met at the White House
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to discuss the murders.
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00:19:05,133 --> 00:19:07,183
During that meeting,
Maynard Jackson was told
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that the FBI would stay
with the case
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until all the murders
were solved.
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Reporter:
Under very tight security,
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23-year-old accused killer
Wayne Williams was whisked
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into an Atlanta
Fulton County superior court,
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where he pleaded innocent
to two counts of murder.
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Nobody saw Wayne Williams
commit any kind of criminal act.
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All they had was dustbusters,
you know,
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little bits of -- of fibers.
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Who thought about fiber in 1981
as a way to catch a criminal?
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We had no fingerprints.
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We didn't have DNA at the time.
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I could not believe that
this little guy could have
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physically pulled that body
out of that station wagon
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and thrown it in that river.
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Wayne's defense was
"I did not do it.
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You've got the wrong guy."
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The FBI thought he fit
what they considered
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the profile
of a serial killer.
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When the trial first starts,
people are wondering
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how could this be about
the Atlanta child murders?
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Because they're charging him
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with the murder
of these two adults.
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I was Wayne's first attorney.
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Miss Welcome had not had
much criminal law experience,
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particularly in
the homicide realm.
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Mr. Binder saw himself
as assisting her,
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but in truth he was
the principle attorney,
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and then I was there
to help him.
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00:20:39,233 --> 00:20:41,103
Man: Is this case winnable?
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00:20:41,133 --> 00:20:42,323
Oh, yes, sir.
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Everybody, to my knowledge,
was pro bono,
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meaning, of course,
no money, no fee.
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And Wayne Williams --
he himself had no resources.
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00:20:54,050 --> 00:20:56,050
We have no money
to get experts.
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00:20:56,083 --> 00:21:00,423
We have no money to hire people
to do the fiber analysis.
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00:21:03,233 --> 00:21:05,283
Reporter: Prosecutors say
the fibers and dog hairs
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taken from Williams' home
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match those found on the bodies
of his two alleged victims.
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00:21:10,433 --> 00:21:12,183
The crown jewel of
the physical evidence
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00:21:12,216 --> 00:21:16,046
that links the cases together
is the green carpet fiber.
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That green carpet is made up
of a very unusual fiber.
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When you look at it
on cross section,
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has two very large lobes
and then one very short lobe.
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Whoever made it was trying to
get around Dupont's patent
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on a trilobal-shape
carpet fiber.
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Drolet: It ends up that
the Wellman Company
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had made this fiber
in a very small quantity.
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Reporter: Only a little more
than 1,500 square yards
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of the carpet
was sold in the Southeast
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during the first
six months of 1971.
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82 rooms of carpet
for the entire state of Georgia.
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Three rooms were
in the Williams' home.
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00:21:52,100 --> 00:21:54,250
Both Jimmy Ray Payne
and Nathaniel Cater,
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they both had the green Wellman
181b carpet fiber that matched.
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It almost became a slam dunk
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00:22:00,466 --> 00:22:04,246
because
this type of fiber was so rare.
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00:22:04,283 --> 00:22:06,453
So, it was all
right there in the house.
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There were these violet colored
fibers from his bedspread.
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00:22:11,083 --> 00:22:14,133
He had a German shepherd.
That dog fiber was there.
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They found some of those similar
fibers on those two bodies.
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We ended up
with three fiber experts,
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all concluding that if you had
all three of these fibers,
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it is virtually impossible
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that these victims
were not in contact with
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00:22:30,016 --> 00:22:33,466
Wayne Williams
immediately prior to death.
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You think about
the Atlanta child murders,
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and he was only charged
with the murders of two adults.
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But they did bring evidence
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for 10 other murders
to the trial.
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They were part of a pattern
and logically connected,
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00:22:47,316 --> 00:22:49,466
particularly by
the fiber evidence.
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00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:51,250
Reporter: Judge Clarence Cooper
ruled in favor
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00:22:51,283 --> 00:22:53,153
of admitting evidence
from 10 additional
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00:22:53,183 --> 00:22:55,153
Atlanta youth murder cases.
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00:22:55,183 --> 00:23:00,153
The 10 children victims that
the prosecution contended
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were linked
through fiber evidence.
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00:23:04,100 --> 00:23:05,480
But for some reason,
they wouldn't charge
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Wayne with them.
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00:23:07,166 --> 00:23:08,396
Smith: It was in this instance
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00:23:08,433 --> 00:23:13,133
that the Atlanta child murders
entered the courtroom.
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00:23:13,166 --> 00:23:16,426
There were 700 fibers from
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18 sources tied to Williams.
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00:23:23,233 --> 00:23:26,053
Not only are there all these
fibers from the house,
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but they find the fibers
from the car
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00:23:29,033 --> 00:23:33,053
match fibers found on many of
the most recent victims.
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00:23:33,083 --> 00:23:36,103
Before they had
the station wagon,
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00:23:36,133 --> 00:23:41,073
the Williams family had a red
Ford LTD.
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00:23:41,100 --> 00:23:43,320
Eric Middlebrooks,
when he was murdered,
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00:23:43,350 --> 00:23:49,050
he has a clump of red fiber
stuck in his shoe.
500
00:23:49,083 --> 00:23:53,323
Detective Buffington notices it
in the band of the shoe.
501
00:23:53,350 --> 00:23:56,330
It matches the interior
carpeting of the red
502
00:23:56,366 --> 00:24:00,416
Ford LTD that the Williams
family is using at the time
503
00:24:00,450 --> 00:24:04,220
that Eric Middlebrooks
is murdered.
504
00:24:04,250 --> 00:24:06,030
These were little bits
of evidence
505
00:24:06,066 --> 00:24:08,016
that just keep adding up.
506
00:24:08,050 --> 00:24:09,300
We had a couple
medical examiners
507
00:24:09,333 --> 00:24:12,103
who said if you're
strangling somebody
508
00:24:12,133 --> 00:24:14,183
and asphyxiating them
from behind,
509
00:24:14,216 --> 00:24:15,426
they are going
to grab your arms.
510
00:24:15,466 --> 00:24:17,376
They are going to reach over
and --
511
00:24:17,416 --> 00:24:20,266
and claw as they're dying.
512
00:24:20,300 --> 00:24:23,470
We had four witnesses
who had seen scratches
513
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:25,250
on Wayne Williams.
514
00:24:25,283 --> 00:24:27,153
Reporter: Bennett told the jury
he noticed some scratches on
515
00:24:27,183 --> 00:24:29,323
Williams' arm
and face one day.
516
00:24:29,350 --> 00:24:31,350
Williams told him
his dog bit him.
517
00:24:31,383 --> 00:24:34,033
Kathy Andrews,
a record studio owner,
518
00:24:34,066 --> 00:24:37,376
told the jury both arms were
scratched from the elbow down.
519
00:24:41,283 --> 00:24:44,233
Rogers: I was over in
the Southeast side of town.
520
00:24:44,266 --> 00:24:48,166
We were staying at
Thomasville Heights apartments.
521
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:50,070
I was more than glued
to the television.
522
00:24:50,100 --> 00:24:53,480
Isaac, he was the little brother
of Patrick Rogers.
523
00:24:54,016 --> 00:24:56,026
My brother was kidnapped
524
00:24:56,066 --> 00:24:58,326
and murdered
from these apartments.
525
00:25:00,483 --> 00:25:02,283
My brother Patrick,
not only did he sing,
526
00:25:02,316 --> 00:25:04,166
he'd actually write songs.
527
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:05,270
Pretty good at it, too.
528
00:25:05,300 --> 00:25:07,400
Butts: I know that Patrick
had stated to me
529
00:25:07,433 --> 00:25:10,433
that he was working with someone
that was going to manage them.
530
00:25:10,466 --> 00:25:13,246
I don't know who it was,
whether it was
531
00:25:13,283 --> 00:25:14,383
Wayne Williams or not.
532
00:25:14,416 --> 00:25:18,396
Did you ever meet any of
the young men who were victims?
533
00:25:18,433 --> 00:25:20,233
No, I did not.
534
00:25:20,266 --> 00:25:22,476
-Never met them once?
-No.
535
00:25:27,116 --> 00:25:29,446
In our apartment complex,
there was a lady,
536
00:25:29,483 --> 00:25:33,323
Miss Willie Mae, who sold
the sweets and treats and stuff.
537
00:25:33,350 --> 00:25:35,450
One night, it was me
and my two cousins.
538
00:25:35,483 --> 00:25:38,223
We went together to
Miss Willie Mae's apartment.
539
00:25:38,250 --> 00:25:40,400
A gentleman steps
from behind the wall.
540
00:25:40,433 --> 00:25:43,353
He was blocking our exits off,
and we started screaming.
541
00:25:43,383 --> 00:25:45,433
And my two cousins took off.
542
00:25:45,466 --> 00:25:47,316
And I turned around,
and I ran back
543
00:25:47,350 --> 00:25:50,150
to Miss Willie Mae's door,
and I'm beating, I'm beating.
544
00:25:50,183 --> 00:25:52,423
I say he got within maybe
four to five feet
545
00:25:52,450 --> 00:25:54,430
of Miss Willie Mae and I.
546
00:25:54,466 --> 00:25:56,426
And then he looks back
over at me,
547
00:25:56,466 --> 00:25:57,466
and then he steps off the porch
548
00:25:58,000 --> 00:25:59,370
and disappears
around the building.
549
00:26:02,133 --> 00:26:05,073
And I remember being home,
watching the news.
550
00:26:05,100 --> 00:26:06,450
Reporter: Wayne Williams emerged
from his parents' house
551
00:26:06,483 --> 00:26:08,403
only once today.
552
00:26:08,433 --> 00:26:12,083
Same bushy afro, glasses,
buttoned-down shirt.
553
00:26:12,116 --> 00:26:14,446
Nobody else knew it, but I knew
that they had the guy.
554
00:26:17,116 --> 00:26:19,366
Anybody who knows me, come on.
555
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:22,180
This -- this isn't me.
556
00:26:22,216 --> 00:26:23,466
Reporter:
If anything is spectacular,
557
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,130
it could be
Williams' own testimony.
558
00:26:26,166 --> 00:26:29,226
He may have to take the stand
to explain his alibi.
559
00:26:29,266 --> 00:26:31,316
I think they thought there's
too many questions that
560
00:26:31,350 --> 00:26:34,070
only Wayne Williams can answer.
561
00:26:34,100 --> 00:26:36,020
And then they got him
on the stand.
562
00:26:42,066 --> 00:26:42,416
Reporter: This was a day for
Wayne Williams
563
00:26:42,450 --> 00:26:44,130
to face his accusers.
564
00:26:44,166 --> 00:26:46,166
The 23-year-old
freelance photographer
565
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,400
took the witness stand
at his trial in Atlanta.
566
00:26:49,433 --> 00:26:53,003
Smith: Wayne,
he had the gift of Gab.
567
00:26:53,033 --> 00:26:55,473
I think he's very convincing.
568
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,400
Reporter: 23-year-old accused
killer Wayne Williams denied
569
00:26:58,433 --> 00:27:01,203
murdering two Blacks
he's charged with killing.
570
00:27:01,233 --> 00:27:02,383
I didn't kill anybody.
571
00:27:02,416 --> 00:27:03,466
-You didn't kill anybody?
-I didn't kill anybody.
572
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:05,420
-Not one person?
-Not one person.
573
00:27:05,450 --> 00:27:07,080
And Wayne sounded great.
574
00:27:07,116 --> 00:27:08,276
So you never stopped
on the bridge?
No, I didn't.
575
00:27:08,316 --> 00:27:10,176
-You didn't throw trash?
-No.
576
00:27:10,216 --> 00:27:12,276
-You didn't throw anything?
-No, I did not.
577
00:27:12,316 --> 00:27:15,366
-You didn't throw a body?
-Definitely not a body. No.
578
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,250
Mallard: Wayne had answers
for everything.
579
00:27:18,283 --> 00:27:20,383
Reporter: One by one,
23-year-old accused killer
580
00:27:20,416 --> 00:27:23,446
Wayne Williams refuted
the testimony of state witnesses
581
00:27:23,483 --> 00:27:26,183
linking him to Atlanta
murder victims.
582
00:27:26,216 --> 00:27:29,446
He called the witnesses liars
or unfamiliar to him.
583
00:27:29,483 --> 00:27:34,283
And I knew that he figured he
could out-talk the prosecutor.
584
00:27:34,316 --> 00:27:38,016
And John Douglas from the FBI
behavioral science unit,
585
00:27:38,050 --> 00:27:39,300
he's been watching this.
586
00:27:39,333 --> 00:27:41,453
They had suggested the serial
killers are real good
587
00:27:41,483 --> 00:27:44,373
in the short run
and real bad in the long run.
588
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:48,350
Then they advised us to keep him
on the witness stand.
589
00:27:48,383 --> 00:27:50,303
Jim Kitchens,
one of his co-counsel,
590
00:27:50,333 --> 00:27:55,153
had to go out to the jail
and talk to him that night.
591
00:27:55,183 --> 00:27:56,283
We said, "You know, Wayne,
592
00:27:56,316 --> 00:27:59,076
"the things
that he's accusing you of
593
00:27:59,116 --> 00:28:02,326
would normally
make a person furious."
594
00:28:02,366 --> 00:28:05,346
We said, "You're on trial
for your life here.
595
00:28:05,383 --> 00:28:08,273
It's okay to show some emotion."
596
00:28:08,300 --> 00:28:10,020
"You need to fight
every word he says.
597
00:28:10,050 --> 00:28:12,200
You need to show some fire."
598
00:28:12,233 --> 00:28:13,333
What's up, people?
599
00:28:13,366 --> 00:28:16,996
The next morning, he was
a complete different person.
600
00:28:19,066 --> 00:28:22,216
Mallard says to Wayne,
"How did it feel
601
00:28:22,250 --> 00:28:27,300
when you were choking
the lives out of those victims?"
602
00:28:27,333 --> 00:28:28,473
Kitchens: Wayne said,
"Mr. Mallard,
603
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:30,450
you must be a fool."
604
00:28:30,483 --> 00:28:33,403
"You want the real
Wayne Williams? You got him."
605
00:28:33,433 --> 00:28:39,073
And Wayne goes bananas,
basically -- yells at us.
606
00:28:39,100 --> 00:28:40,200
Calls us goons.
607
00:28:40,233 --> 00:28:44,073
I'm like,
"This man gotta be crazy."
608
00:28:44,100 --> 00:28:46,350
Williams: I could see almost
the shock in the jurors' faces.
609
00:28:46,383 --> 00:28:48,183
Everybody said, "My God,
is this the same
610
00:28:48,216 --> 00:28:49,346
Wayne that was up here
yesterday?"
611
00:28:49,383 --> 00:28:51,053
I could see that.
612
00:28:51,083 --> 00:28:54,253
The prosecution contended
that Williams
613
00:28:54,283 --> 00:28:59,123
was a dual personality --
a Jekyll and Hyde.
614
00:28:59,150 --> 00:29:01,380
More evidence is piling up
against accused murderer
615
00:29:01,416 --> 00:29:03,396
Wayne Williams,
and for the first time,
616
00:29:03,433 --> 00:29:06,123
the prosecution is speculating
on a motive
617
00:29:06,150 --> 00:29:08,280
for some of the Atlanta
child murders.
618
00:29:08,316 --> 00:29:10,076
They were trying to say
that he just
619
00:29:10,116 --> 00:29:12,026
didn't like poor Black kids.
620
00:29:12,066 --> 00:29:15,246
These people were just a burden
on society.
621
00:29:24,283 --> 00:29:27,103
He's berating the victims.
622
00:29:27,133 --> 00:29:31,153
We presented witnesses who said
he had made derogatory
623
00:29:31,183 --> 00:29:34,183
remarks about poor street kids.
624
00:29:34,216 --> 00:29:36,296
"They're keeping down
the Black race."
625
00:29:36,333 --> 00:29:38,183
And so, I believe,
for whatever reason,
626
00:29:38,216 --> 00:29:44,046
he'd taken it on himself
to cleanse the race.
627
00:29:44,083 --> 00:29:46,453
Mary Welcome,
in her closing arguments,
628
00:29:46,483 --> 00:29:51,003
she actually put a thimble
on the banister
629
00:29:51,033 --> 00:29:55,123
in front of the jury and said,
"The state's case is basically
630
00:29:55,150 --> 00:29:57,480
just a thimbleful of evidence."
631
00:29:58,016 --> 00:30:00,376
But Lewis Slaton,
he was a really good attorney.
632
00:30:00,416 --> 00:30:05,296
He told the jury that when
Wayne Williams was arrested,
633
00:30:05,333 --> 00:30:08,033
the murders of young
634
00:30:08,066 --> 00:30:11,446
African-American males stopped.
635
00:30:11,483 --> 00:30:13,133
Drolet: Dr. Stivers,
who was then
636
00:30:13,166 --> 00:30:15,016
chief medical examiner
of Fulton County,
637
00:30:15,050 --> 00:30:19,030
had testified prior to 1979,
638
00:30:19,066 --> 00:30:22,296
they'd just never had
homicides by asphyxia.
639
00:30:22,333 --> 00:30:24,473
And then all of a sudden,
there was a spike.
640
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,170
After Wayne Williams was
stopped on the bridge,
641
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,330
it goes down to zero.
642
00:30:29,366 --> 00:30:33,476
In fact, there has not been
a single murder or child
643
00:30:34,016 --> 00:30:36,376
reported missing
since I've been mayor.
644
00:30:36,416 --> 00:30:39,346
And during the campaign,
I was in pretty close touch
645
00:30:39,383 --> 00:30:42,233
with the police
and Mayor Jackson.
646
00:30:42,266 --> 00:30:45,066
And I don't think
that kind of thing
647
00:30:45,100 --> 00:30:48,400
could be kept quiet
in a city like Atlanta.
648
00:30:48,433 --> 00:30:50,403
Reporter: The fate of accused
killer Wayne Williams
649
00:30:50,433 --> 00:30:52,433
is now in the hands
of the jury.
650
00:30:52,466 --> 00:30:54,466
Drolet: Do they believe
Wayne Williams?
651
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:56,480
Do they feel sorry
for Wayne Williams?
652
00:30:57,016 --> 00:30:59,166
All it takes is one person
saying,
653
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,330
"I ain't gonna convict him,"
and you got a hung jury.
654
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:12,250
After nine weeks of trial,
the jury came back in 11 hours.
655
00:31:12,283 --> 00:31:15,303
It was shocking.
656
00:31:15,333 --> 00:31:19,253
Mr. Williams was found guilty
of two counts of murder.
657
00:31:19,283 --> 00:31:22,423
And identifying him
basically as the serial killer
658
00:31:22,450 --> 00:31:25,250
that was terrorizing Atlanta
for two years.
659
00:31:29,083 --> 00:31:31,273
Williams was sentenced
on February 27th
660
00:31:31,300 --> 00:31:33,170
to two consecutive life terms
661
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,370
in the murders
of two young Atlanta Blacks.
662
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:38,080
I was sitting in the bedroom
when they said
663
00:31:38,116 --> 00:31:41,126
that he was found guilty.
664
00:31:41,166 --> 00:31:42,426
I said, "Thank you, Jesus.
665
00:31:42,466 --> 00:31:45,296
Thank you, Jesus.
You've answered my prayers."
666
00:31:45,333 --> 00:31:47,283
He's been charged
with two murders,
667
00:31:47,316 --> 00:31:50,146
but I know
you killed Jeffrey, too.
668
00:31:50,183 --> 00:31:52,383
I knew he killed my son.
669
00:31:52,416 --> 00:31:56,996
But Wayne Williams was
only found guilty
670
00:31:57,033 --> 00:32:01,303
on two murders,
Cater and Payne, not your son.
Right, right.
671
00:32:01,333 --> 00:32:04,203
But I still say
he had some kind of connection
672
00:32:04,233 --> 00:32:06,173
in that with my son.
673
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:10,150
Camille Bell was saying,
"No, he didn't do this."
674
00:32:10,183 --> 00:32:12,383
Because Wayne Williams
did not commit the murders.
675
00:32:12,416 --> 00:32:14,466
One of the reasons
that I don't think
676
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:16,220
Wayne Williams
committed the murders
677
00:32:16,250 --> 00:32:20,280
is that I do not believe
that Wayne Williams is Superman.
678
00:32:20,316 --> 00:32:24,166
It would be very difficult
to take a body,
679
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:30,150
lift it up over the railing
without anybody seeing him.
680
00:32:30,183 --> 00:32:32,453
So, a couple of days
after the conviction,
681
00:32:32,483 --> 00:32:35,483
the task force,
they held a press conference.
682
00:32:36,016 --> 00:32:37,196
Reporter: Atlanta public safety
commissioner
683
00:32:37,233 --> 00:32:39,433
Lee Brown announced
the police task force
684
00:32:39,466 --> 00:32:42,996
that investigated
the crimes would be disbanded
685
00:32:43,033 --> 00:32:47,053
because most of the murders
now were regarded as solved.
686
00:32:47,083 --> 00:32:49,353
Drolet: Probably 24 can be
attributed to him,
687
00:32:49,383 --> 00:32:52,173
and that's what were cleared
by the task force.
688
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:56,200
There were 24 that were
associated with fiber.
689
00:32:56,233 --> 00:32:57,403
They were all male.
690
00:32:57,433 --> 00:32:59,373
Those two girls are
an aberration,
691
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,300
and there have
always been thoughts
692
00:33:01,333 --> 00:33:05,203
that someone else
was involved in that.
693
00:33:05,233 --> 00:33:07,423
I don't believe Wayne Williams
is responsible
694
00:33:07,450 --> 00:33:12,170
or had anything to do with
the deaths of Angel Lenair
695
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:13,330
Or LaTonya Wilson.
696
00:33:13,366 --> 00:33:16,426
Some family members said that,
"I felt that my child
697
00:33:16,466 --> 00:33:19,466
deserves his case
being heard in court."
698
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:23,080
The district attorney at that
time decided
699
00:33:23,116 --> 00:33:26,096
not to proceed
with the other cases,
700
00:33:26,133 --> 00:33:29,253
mainly because
Wayne Williams had already
701
00:33:29,283 --> 00:33:32,123
received two life sentences.
702
00:33:32,150 --> 00:33:33,250
Now what are we going to do?
703
00:33:33,283 --> 00:33:35,333
How are we going to find out
who killed the kids?
704
00:33:35,366 --> 00:33:38,466
These families have
not seen justice at all.
705
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,030
They're just as much
a victim as I am.
706
00:33:41,066 --> 00:33:42,346
I wish the families would,
you know,
707
00:33:42,383 --> 00:33:45,453
find some kind of peace,
but that wasn't the case.
708
00:33:45,483 --> 00:33:48,373
Wayne Williams
immediately appealed.
709
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:50,270
I'm not a quitter.
I'm not a coward.
710
00:33:50,300 --> 00:33:52,180
And I'm gonna fight this
to the end.
711
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:03,180
Pearson: Wayne Williams' first
appeal was not successful.
712
00:34:03,216 --> 00:34:05,396
Reporter: In Atlanta today,
a judge denied a motion
713
00:34:05,433 --> 00:34:07,473
for a new trial
for convicted murderer
714
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,280
Wayne Williams.
715
00:34:10,316 --> 00:34:14,176
An appellate court is not gonna
overturn a jury verdict
716
00:34:14,216 --> 00:34:17,216
in the absence
of some serious error
717
00:34:17,250 --> 00:34:19,420
that they perceived occurred.
718
00:34:25,050 --> 00:34:27,250
Some police at one time
suspected
719
00:34:27,283 --> 00:34:29,373
the Klan of being involved
in the murders.
720
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:34,450
Investigators had turned up
a report that victim Lubie Geter
721
00:34:34,483 --> 00:34:36,403
had had a confrontation
722
00:34:36,433 --> 00:34:41,303
with a man reported to be
in the Ku Klux Klan.
723
00:34:41,333 --> 00:34:46,033
So the GBI did a lot of that
investigation --
724
00:34:46,066 --> 00:34:47,466
wire taps, essentially.
725
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,320
They had these guys
under physical surveillance.
726
00:34:50,350 --> 00:34:53,250
The GBI didn't tell anybody
that they were investigating it.
727
00:34:53,283 --> 00:34:55,123
They decided to keep it secret.
728
00:34:55,150 --> 00:34:58,020
The prosecution team
did not know about it at trial.
729
00:34:58,050 --> 00:35:00,200
It was an entire family
of brothers
730
00:35:00,233 --> 00:35:02,133
that were involved in the Klan.
731
00:35:08,133 --> 00:35:12,333
This was a device to keep
a race war from happening.
732
00:35:12,366 --> 00:35:14,426
And if they indicted
someone from the Klan,
733
00:35:14,466 --> 00:35:17,076
that's what's going to happen,
in their opinion.
734
00:35:17,116 --> 00:35:19,996
So, they wanted to sacrifice
Wayne Williams
735
00:35:20,033 --> 00:35:21,383
in order to keep the peace.
736
00:35:27,266 --> 00:35:29,076
Reporter: But most important
was police informant
737
00:35:29,116 --> 00:35:30,426
Billy Joe Whitaker,
738
00:35:30,466 --> 00:35:33,196
who claims a reputed
Ku Klux Klansman 10 years ago
739
00:35:33,233 --> 00:35:35,403
told him the Klan
was killing the children.
740
00:35:35,433 --> 00:35:39,103
This little kid
run into his van.
What little kid?
741
00:35:39,133 --> 00:35:41,073
Geter. On his go-cart.
742
00:35:41,100 --> 00:35:44,030
"Well," he said, "I'm gonna kill
that little Black bastard."
743
00:35:44,066 --> 00:35:46,466
Reporter: Charles Sanders
allegedly made that comment.
744
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:50,270
He vehemently denies it --
denies even being a Klansman.
745
00:35:50,300 --> 00:35:54,420
Well, I sympathize
with their cause.
746
00:35:54,450 --> 00:35:59,050
As far as myself, I have never
been a member of the Klan.
747
00:35:59,083 --> 00:36:01,223
I've never associated with them.
748
00:36:05,433 --> 00:36:08,003
Ingram: We heard a lot
of racial slurs.
749
00:36:08,033 --> 00:36:11,273
They were involved in drugs.
They were involved in guns.
750
00:36:11,300 --> 00:36:15,280
I was constantly harassed,
751
00:36:15,316 --> 00:36:18,246
under investigation by the GBI.
752
00:36:18,283 --> 00:36:19,473
Blowhard is a good word --
753
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:24,100
a person that enjoyed, uh,
running their mouth.
754
00:36:24,133 --> 00:36:25,303
We took them into custody.
755
00:36:25,333 --> 00:36:28,023
We interviewed
and interrogated them.
756
00:36:28,050 --> 00:36:30,170
When they had these guys
under surveillance,
757
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:36,050
three other children were gone
missing and murdered,
758
00:36:36,083 --> 00:36:41,023
which led the GBI then
to believe that the Klan
759
00:36:41,050 --> 00:36:43,180
certainly was not involved
in these three,
760
00:36:43,216 --> 00:36:45,046
and may not have been involved.
761
00:36:45,083 --> 00:36:48,223
The results were conclusive
that they were not involved
762
00:36:48,250 --> 00:36:50,230
in either the planning,
763
00:36:50,266 --> 00:36:53,176
the commission,
or concealment of any crime
764
00:36:53,216 --> 00:36:56,016
regarding the Atlanta
missing/murdered children.
765
00:36:59,033 --> 00:37:01,353
McMichael: There are some people
that still want to say
766
00:37:01,383 --> 00:37:04,023
that the Ku Klux Klan did it.
767
00:37:04,050 --> 00:37:08,300
It would just make better sense
to some people.
768
00:37:08,333 --> 00:37:10,233
There was never any evidence.
769
00:37:15,150 --> 00:37:18,020
We basically ran into a legal
dead-end
770
00:37:18,050 --> 00:37:19,220
with the federal appeals.
771
00:37:19,250 --> 00:37:21,250
Wayne Williams, of course,
he still contends
772
00:37:21,283 --> 00:37:22,433
that he didn't do any of them,
773
00:37:22,466 --> 00:37:25,366
that he's not the murderer,
he was set up.
774
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,130
Reporter: Louis Graham,
the assistant police chief
775
00:37:27,166 --> 00:37:30,166
in Fulton County at the time
and part of the missing
776
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:33,070
and murdered task force,
believes Williams.
777
00:37:33,100 --> 00:37:36,030
I don't think Wayne Williams
is responsible for anything.
778
00:37:36,066 --> 00:37:39,096
He believed that there was
someone else out there.
779
00:37:39,133 --> 00:37:43,403
Maybe you can call it a mother's
intuition or just a gut feeling.
780
00:37:43,433 --> 00:37:45,483
I just don't feel
like he did it.
781
00:37:46,016 --> 00:37:50,326
There's too many loose ends
that's not been answered.
782
00:37:52,466 --> 00:37:56,046
It was confusing and there was
no final note
783
00:37:56,083 --> 00:37:57,253
to the whole business.
784
00:37:57,283 --> 00:37:59,123
Their kid's name was
never associated
785
00:37:59,150 --> 00:38:04,250
with a killer
technically, legally.
786
00:38:04,283 --> 00:38:07,253
The Baltazar case --
there is the single case
787
00:38:07,283 --> 00:38:10,333
with the strongest physical
evidence to Wayne Williams.
788
00:38:10,366 --> 00:38:14,216
I believe that there were 12
or 13 different fiber types
789
00:38:14,250 --> 00:38:19,020
linked to Williams
found on Baltazar's body.
790
00:38:19,050 --> 00:38:23,280
Hairs were found inside
the shirt of Patrick Baltazar.
791
00:38:23,316 --> 00:38:26,266
Back in 1981, the best
the FBI lab could do
792
00:38:26,300 --> 00:38:29,330
was say it belongs
to a Black male.
793
00:38:29,366 --> 00:38:34,176
They resubmitted the hair
in 2007.
794
00:38:34,216 --> 00:38:37,396
Deadman: He is consistent with
being the source of the DNA
795
00:38:37,433 --> 00:38:39,253
recovered from those hairs.
796
00:38:39,283 --> 00:38:42,173
It would exclude probably 98%
797
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:46,280
of the African-American
population in the world.
798
00:38:46,316 --> 00:38:49,166
Without a shadow of a doubt,
I really in my heart believe
799
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:52,370
that Wayne Williams
killed Patrick Baltazar.
800
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:56,050
He could have killed
all of them.
801
00:38:56,083 --> 00:38:58,433
Smith: There's always this
lingering question.
802
00:38:58,466 --> 00:39:02,166
How could he have done
all those things?
803
00:39:05,283 --> 00:39:06,323
Keisha Lance bottoms,
804
00:39:06,350 --> 00:39:08,370
who's the mayor
of the city of Atlanta,
805
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:11,100
is saying, "Okay,
let's give this a fresh look."
806
00:39:11,133 --> 00:39:13,323
Bottoms: We can't go back
and undo what happened
807
00:39:13,350 --> 00:39:16,170
40 years ago in our city.
808
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,000
But we can do better.
809
00:39:18,033 --> 00:39:20,153
Reporter: Last week, Atlanta's
mayor announced a new push
810
00:39:20,183 --> 00:39:23,403
to re-examine evidence
using modern forensics.
811
00:39:23,433 --> 00:39:25,483
Bottoms:
I called our police chief.
812
00:39:26,016 --> 00:39:30,076
I said, "Have we looked
at this evidence recently
813
00:39:30,116 --> 00:39:32,066
"with all of the improvements
814
00:39:32,100 --> 00:39:35,070
with DNA technology
and testing?"
815
00:39:35,100 --> 00:39:39,120
As law enforcement,
we have an obligation
816
00:39:39,150 --> 00:39:44,120
to exhaust every conceivable
avenue of investigation
817
00:39:44,150 --> 00:39:49,100
and make every effort to help
these families find closure.
818
00:39:49,133 --> 00:39:51,133
I want some justice.
819
00:39:51,166 --> 00:39:57,016
I wanna know who killed Curtis
so that I can rest in peace.
820
00:39:57,050 --> 00:39:58,400
Suggs: A lot of people contend,
"We got him.
821
00:39:58,433 --> 00:40:00,133
Wayne Williams is a killer."
822
00:40:00,166 --> 00:40:02,416
But there's a big contingency
of people here in Atlanta
823
00:40:02,450 --> 00:40:06,320
and nationally who don't think
he did it, at least all of them.
824
00:40:06,350 --> 00:40:09,050
I think having somebody go back
and reopen those
825
00:40:09,083 --> 00:40:11,023
and look at them
is a good idea.
826
00:40:11,050 --> 00:40:15,030
I have always hoped that any
of those children
827
00:40:15,066 --> 00:40:18,046
who were friends of some
of the missing
828
00:40:18,083 --> 00:40:20,083
and murdered children,
829
00:40:20,116 --> 00:40:25,076
who knew something but were
afraid to say something,
830
00:40:25,116 --> 00:40:27,246
now will say something.
831
00:40:29,483 --> 00:40:32,053
At the same time,
the mayor decided to come up
832
00:40:32,083 --> 00:40:33,273
with some fitting memorial
833
00:40:33,300 --> 00:40:35,180
for the missing
and murdered children.
834
00:40:35,216 --> 00:40:36,296
40 years is a long wait.
835
00:40:36,333 --> 00:40:39,203
But I'm happy to be here
to see that.
836
00:40:39,233 --> 00:40:42,123
The permanent memorial
will be at City Hall
837
00:40:42,150 --> 00:40:44,450
right outside
of the mayor's office.
838
00:40:44,483 --> 00:40:47,023
Every mayor here on out
839
00:40:47,050 --> 00:40:49,280
will be able to look out
the window
840
00:40:49,316 --> 00:40:54,116
and think about
and remember our children.
841
00:40:54,150 --> 00:40:56,430
Edward Smith, age 14.
842
00:40:56,466 --> 00:40:59,266
Alfred Evans, age 13.
843
00:40:59,300 --> 00:41:02,250
Milton Harvey, age 14.
844
00:41:02,283 --> 00:41:05,103
Yusuf Bell, age 9.
845
00:41:05,133 --> 00:41:07,033
Angel Lenair.
846
00:41:07,066 --> 00:41:09,376
I want these children
to be remembered,
847
00:41:09,416 --> 00:41:13,466
but more importantly,
I want these cases solved.
848
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:15,270
Success would be to be able
849
00:41:15,300 --> 00:41:19,180
to look into the eyes
of each and every family
850
00:41:19,216 --> 00:41:23,216
and know that they know
that we care.
851
00:41:23,250 --> 00:41:27,250
Clifford Jones, 13.
852
00:41:27,283 --> 00:41:29,323
All of the evidence
in the mysterious Atlanta
853
00:41:29,350 --> 00:41:32,080
child murders case
is being re-examined
854
00:41:32,116 --> 00:41:34,476
using advanced DNA technology.
855
00:41:35,016 --> 00:41:36,476
Mayor Keisha Lance Bottoms
says
856
00:41:37,016 --> 00:41:39,026
she was inspired
by the new DNA techniques
857
00:41:39,066 --> 00:41:41,246
that helped find
the Golden State killer.
858
00:41:41,283 --> 00:41:44,423
Wayne Williams still insists
he did not murder
859
00:41:44,450 --> 00:41:47,050
any of the victims
in the Atlanta child case
860
00:41:47,083 --> 00:41:51,173
and that the killer or killers
are still out there.
861
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:53,380
In 2019, he was denied parole.
862
00:41:53,416 --> 00:41:56,316
He will not be considered again
until 2027.
863
00:41:56,350 --> 00:41:58,450
He will be 69 years old.
864
00:41:58,483 --> 00:42:02,123
Thanks for watching.
Good night.
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