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-Look. It's Mama, Michael.-Look.
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Hey!
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Whoever has my children...
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Alex!
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...please -- I mean,
please
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We will do anything --
anything
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to get them back to us.
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That's just where they belong,
with their mama and daddy.
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♪♪
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♪♪
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Welcome to
"How It Really Happened."
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I'm Hill Harper.
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In late October 1994,
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a frantic woman appeared
at the door of a family
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in a small town
in South Carolina.
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Her story was horrifying.
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She had been carjacked,
and her two young boys taken.
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When the news of the kidnapping
broke,
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the entire country
became gripped by the search
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to find Susan Smith's sons,
Michael and Alex.
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The mystery about
what happened that night
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turned into one of the biggest
stories of the decade.
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When the truth
was finally revealed,
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it sent shock waves
around the world --
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an ending
that no one saw coming.
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This is
"How It Really Happened."
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There's not one minute
that goes by
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that I don't think
about these boys.
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And I have prayed
that whoever has them,
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that the Lord will let them
realize that they are missed
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and loved more than
any children in this world.
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We've just got to
get them home.
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Reporter:
Union County 911 operators
received a frantic call
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reporting the kidnapping
of two small boys.
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Jordan:
The 911 phone call described
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this young wife and mother,
Susan Smith,
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and she says
that she's been carjacked
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and that her two children,
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a 3-year-old named Michael
and a 14-month-old named Alex,
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were strapped in their car seats
in the back of the car.
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So it's not just a carjacking.
This is a kidnapping.
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They were crying
for their mama.
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You know, it felt
really terrible to know
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that I couldn't get back there
and get them, you know?
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Eftimiades: Susan had run
to the nearest neighbor's house
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and showed up at the door
completely hysterical,
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and they were the ones
who called 911.
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[ Siren wailing ]
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There was total pandemonium.
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I mean, she was saying her
children had just been abducted,
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and they were on the phone
with the sheriff's department.
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They were calling
family members.
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David: I just received
a phone call at work
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that Michael and Alex
were missing.
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Susan was hysterical,
and I couldn't understand her.
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And I just wanted to get
to where she was at
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and find out what was going on.
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I would probably say
that drive is
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a, typically,
25- to 30-minute drive.
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You know, it didn't take me
probably even half that
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to get to where she was at.
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When I walked in,
Susan was sitting on the couch.
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She immediately stood up
and started, like,
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to collapse in my arms.
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She was very distraught.
She was very upset.
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Well, I was concerned about her,
and, of course, I was concerned
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about where Michael
and Alex were.
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I just remember that I was told
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that she was sitting
at a red light.
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Reporter:
23-year-Old Susan Smith was
driving to a friend's house
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about 9:00 last night when she
stopped at this intersection
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and, suddenly, a man
appeared in her car.
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In the back seat,
Smith's two boys,
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3-year-old Michael
and 14-month-Old Alexander.
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The media finds out about it.
A reporter named Cynthia Barnes,
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who worked for a Spartanburg
news outlet called WSPA
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did an interview
with Susan and David.
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It was at this traffic light
at Monarch Mills
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that Susan says the man
jumped in her car.
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Susan:
I was stopped at a red light,
and just out of nowhere,
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this black guy came up,
and he just opened the door
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and jumped in the car.
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And he had a gun,
and he had it pointed in my side
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and told me to drive,
and so I did.
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And when I tried to ask him why
he was doing this or whatever,
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he just told me to shut up
or he'd kill me.
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So I just kept driving,
driving.
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And my babies were in the
back seat, and they were crying.
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Michael's 3,
and he's very smart.
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He knew something was wrong.
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He directed Susan to go
down the road
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that leads out
to John D. Long Lake,
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and that's when
he made her get out of the car.
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And he told me,
"Get out."
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And I said, "Well,
can I get my children?"
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And he said no.
He said...
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[ Sniffles ] He said,
"I don't have time for that."
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And they were just
crying and...
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And then he continued
down the road
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with, you know, Michael
and Alex still in the car.
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When he let me go,
he took off,
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I just dropped to the ground
and just cried and screamed
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and, you know, hollering
for somebody to please help me.
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And then I just got up
and started running,
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just screaming,
you know,
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"Somebody, help me,
help me," you know?
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And then I got to
this lady's house,
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and she called the police,
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and they were there
in a matter of minutes.
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[ Sirens wailing ]
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Police are called immediately.
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An all-points bulletin
is put out for this car.
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Everybody's looking
for this car.
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This is a 1990 Mazda Protege.
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The license plate is a
South Carolina registration --
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GBK-167.
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He didn't ask for money,
he didn't harm her,
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and he said he would not harm
the children.
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We hope he's as good
as his word.
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I got the call from headquarters
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that there'd been
a kidnapping, a carjacking.
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We spent most of the night
trying to run down,
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did anybody see anything
whatsoever out of the ordinary?
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Nobody had seen anything.
Nobody heard anything.
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And she was on TV,
begging to bring her kids back.
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If anybody sees anything
that looks unusual,
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I mean,
please contact somebody
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'cause I am just
so heart-sick over it.
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I mean,
I miss them so much.
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It was heart-wrenching.
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We were hoping that the kids
were alive
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and somebody
would see it on TV.
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It's just a tragedy.
I mean, I just -- I can't --
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I just can't believe
I'm going through it.
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And I just hope and pray
for their safe return to me.
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And David Smith is there,
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and he looks like the proverbial
deer in the headlights.
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David: I didn't know what
I was gonna do.
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It's very difficult.
It's very, very hard.
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It's unimaginable.
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I just remember trying
to stay positive.
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I just had to get
Michael and Alex back.
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I really thought
that when it got daylight,
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that they would find them
just in a heartbeat, but no.
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We would like to believe
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that he is not going to hurt
these children.
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Paschal: It was something
that literally made
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the hair on the back
of my neck stick up.
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♪♪
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Reporter: It is a mother's
worst nightmare.
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[ Crying ] I can't even describe
what I'm going through.
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I mean, it's -- my heart is
just so -- it just aches.
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Her two children,
3-year-old Michael
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and 14-month-old Alex,
were kidnapped, she says,
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following a carjacking in rural
South Carolina Tuesday night.
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Kids disappeared.
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Everyone wanted to know what
happened to those kids
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in Union, South Carolina.
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Two little children --
they were so young.
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If anybody sees anything
whatsoever,
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please contact
your local police department.
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Please.
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And I think it just grabbed
everybody's heart
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when they saw the pictures.
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All I'm doing's just praying
and just keeping my faith
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that they're gonna be okay.
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She looked like
a frightened doe.
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Her eyes were just wide open.
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I sat down and asked her
if she was okay, and I said,
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"Oh, why didn't you
lock your doors?"
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Stewart: We got a call
that there'd been an abduction
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of two children
in Union, South Carolina.
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We sent a crew of agents
in there and a forensic artist,
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tried to get a good sketch
of the person
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who allegedly
committed this crime.
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I received a phone call
that the kids were missing
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and that there was
a carjacker.
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Well, I went to Union
to do a composite sketch
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of this individual.
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When I first met Susan,
she was very unassuming.
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She had her hair pulled back
with a scrunchie
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and had an oversize sweatshirt.
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She had had an opportunity
to see the carjacker.
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She described him
as a black male
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wearing what we often call
a stocking cap,
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and he had on a plaid shirt.
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Reporter: Based on
Mrs. Smith's description,
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the suspect is a black male
in his 20s or 30s
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wearing a plaid shirt,
blue jeans,
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and a blue toboggan-style hat.
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He was last seen
in the Smith car,
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a 1990 maroon Mazda Protege.
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We have worked all
throughout the night,
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receiving telephone information.
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S.L.E.D. Agents and
investigators from this office
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are now going out, and they are
running down every lead
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that we received overnight.
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Harris: Everybody wanted to know
where the kids were,
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what are we, law enforcement,
doing to try to find those kids.
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What we were trying to do
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is to locate the kids
and get them alive.
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And that was our goal,
and that was our purpose.
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Reporter: Law-enforcement
officers and volunteers
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comb the woods near
the reported abduction site.
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We're about 150 feet, I think,
from where she was put out.
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Charles: Everybody was looking
for the kids.
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We had people sweeping
through the woods --
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you know, everybody
10 feet from everybody else.
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They're looking for anything
that can give them a clue
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to what happened --
shoes, clothes.
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Some of our helicopters
would go up there every day
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and circle, looking.
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And the Department of Natural
Resources had the dive team.
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Reporter: Crucial evidence
may be underwater.
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-See it?
-Yeah.
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Reporter:
That's what divers believe.
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Harris:
We went to John D. Long Lake.
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They call that Black Bottom
down there.
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Anything over 6 inches
in front of you, you can't see.
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It's just muddy water
and slick bottom.
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That's about it.
There's nothing else down there.
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No rocks, a few beer cans.
That's about it.
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And then there was reports
from time to time
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that the kids had been seen,
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and there was, you know,
leads that were coming in.
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Should be in this area here
where...
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Reporter:
Searchers, including the head
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of the state law-enforcement
division,
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have been focusing their efforts
along Highway 49.
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But there have been reports
the car was seen this afternoon,
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west of here,
in Greenville County.
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We would hear things,
all these sightings.
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Harris: Somebody had seen
something in a gully.
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We had to look.
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We've run criminal histories
on suspects,
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on people who are on parole
or probation within the area.
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So far, we haven't developed
a solid suspect there.
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Harris:
I talked with some of the
leaders in the black community.
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They wanted
good law enforcement.
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They wanted us to check out
everything.
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I know a couple of guys
that were questioned
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and stuff like that,
but, yeah, the police had to do
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what they had to do, too.
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Wells: My heart goes out
to the family in this case,
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but I can't get those children
off of my mind
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because they're so young.
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The investigation into
the abductor is secondary
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to the welfare
of those children.
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I asked Susan, "What do you
think should happen
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to the person that did this?"
And she paused, and she said,
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"I feel like when
the sun comes up,
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they'll find my children,
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but I know how they can get to
you when they've been crying."
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Susan: They were screaming,
hollering, and crying, and --
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and I'm just scared
that he just lost his patience
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or something, you know?
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I don't -- I don't know.
I... [ Sniffles ]
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There's something
about that statement
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that literally made the hair
on the back of my neck stick up.
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That's the first time
I felt they were in danger.
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Reporter:
He is still on the loose.
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According to authorities,
he may have crossed state lines.
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How long can the search go on?
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Until the boys are found.
That's what the sheriff says.
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But I had to get them back.
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Hey, boy.
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Hey, boy.
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You being a good boy.Mama's proud of you.
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I can't sleep.
I can't eat.
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[ Crying ] I can't do anything
but think about them.
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Susan Smith's worst nightmare
began 48 hours ago.
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While waiting at a stoplight
in a small town
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in South Carolina with her
two young sons in the back seat,
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an armed carjacker
forced his way into her car,
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pushed her out.
The boys are still missing.
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Michael is 3.
Little Alex is 14 months old.
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It's terrifying, a carjacking
with two small children.
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Any parent could put him- or
herself in that situation.
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Please, let's find these kids.
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Let's find the car
abandoned somewhere,
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a random phone call saying,
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"You can get the car here,
your children are fine."
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We wanted these boys
to be found.
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During that time, to put
a little context into it,
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there were a lot
of very high-profile
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missing-child cases --
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Megan Kanka,
who Megan's Law is named after,
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Amber Hagerman, which brought
in the Amber Alert.
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And this one definitely
immediately rose
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to a whole different level.
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You commonly hear about
a single disappearance,
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but two children is different.
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David: I plead to the guy,
to the man.
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Me and my wife plead to him
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to please return our children
to us, safely and unharmed.
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We love our children very much,
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and we want them returned
to us safe and sound.
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It's hard to do the interviews.
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But we were just concerned
with finding Michael and Alex.
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Reporter:
At the boys' home, meantime,
an officer remains on the scene,
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presumably to receive
a hoped-for phone call
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from the suspect.
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The boys' toys wait unused
in the driveway.
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Jordan: Susan Smith was just 23
and David 24
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when their children
went missing.
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They started a romance,
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both working at
the local grocery store.
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Susan Vaughan, as she was born,
hadn't really known David Smith
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that well
when she was in high school.
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David: Susan was very well-known
in high school.
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She was very popular.
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You know,
she was very attractive.
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I'd always see her,
and then she got a job
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at the same grocery store
in Union.
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And, you know,
that's how we met,
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and I just fell head over heels
for her right from the get-go.
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They started dating,
and then after a while,
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she became pregnant,
and they got married.
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David: When I found out
Susan was pregnant,
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that was, uh...
joyful, but terrifying.
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You know, it was unexpected,
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and I didn't know how I was
gonna support a family.
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But I was -- I was so happy.
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I just knew that
somehow it was --
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it was gonna be okay.
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When Michael was born,
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from the moment
I first held him,
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I knew he was part of my heart.
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I enjoyed, you know,
watching him change
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and watching him discover,
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you know,
his hands and his feet and...
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You know, and it was --
it was fantastic, being a dad.
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Susan was a great mother
from the beginning.
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[ Baby crying ]
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[ Laughs ]
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It's about good.
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[ Crying continues ]
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Huh?
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Unfortunately, you know,
our marriage --
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the good times were
very short-lived.
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Right from the start,
their relationship was volatile.
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They both cheated on each other,
and one of the neighbors said
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you could just see him
moving furniture in and out
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and you never knew if they were
together or if they had split.
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And at one of those good
moments in their marriage,
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Susan gets pregnant again.
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And this produces
their second son, named Alex.
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David: Getting pregnant
with Alex was unexpected.
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We both were very scared
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because we were struggling
already with our marriage.
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But then there was so much
enjoyment with Michael,
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and we knew it would
just now be times two.
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Go for it!Go for that cake!
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Look! Mmm, mmm!Get into it.
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Ooh, there's your toy.
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Cool!Don't look.
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When Alex was born,
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I mean, Michael --
he became,
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you know, very protective
of Alex right from the start.
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Unfortunately for me and Susan,
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our marriage
was degrading rapidly.
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David and Susan were estranged.
They had split up.
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They were getting divorced.
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I asked her, I said, "How are
you and David doing?"
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She said, "We're separated,
and I do have a boyfriend.
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In fact,
this is his sweatshirt."
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After me and Susan separated,
I still spent as much time,
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you know, with Michael and Alex
as I could.
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They were always excited
when I picked them up.
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And I won't say that they were
sad when I dropped them off,
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because they weren't, you know?
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They loved their mom, too.
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ButI
[ Chuckles ]
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I know I was a lousy husband,
but I was -- I was a good dad.
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I was a great dad.
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[ Laughs ]
That feel good?
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These two precious boys,
who they loved,
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are now missing,
and no one knows where they are.
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David: Susan and I were staying
at her parents' home because,
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even though we were separated,
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I wanted us to be together
in case
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any of the law-enforcement
agencies needed us.
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It would just be quicker for us
if we were together.
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00:18:50,333 --> 00:18:55,223
Our 911 center has received
a call from a subject stating
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00:18:55,250 --> 00:18:58,330
that these two young boys
from down in South Carolina
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may be in the area here
where we're located now.
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Reporter:
The reported sighting of a man
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roughly matching the description
of the suspect in a wooded area
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10 miles from the reported
abduction didn't pan out,
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despite an intensive search.
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Charles: We got every policeman
in the country
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00:19:14,100 --> 00:19:16,480
looking for that guy
and that car and those kids,
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and nobody's ever found
hide nor hair of any of them.
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Susan: And they've got people
everywhere looking for them.
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I mean, you know, you can hear
the helicopters in the air.
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And, but they haven't seen
anything.
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00:19:28,383 --> 00:19:30,233
It's crazy.
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O'Dell: I don't know.
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00:19:31,383 --> 00:19:35,003
We just tried everything
that we could know to try.
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00:19:35,033 --> 00:19:36,333
Jordan:
But as the days wore on,
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00:19:36,366 --> 00:19:38,996
we know that the chances
of Michael and Alex
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00:19:39,033 --> 00:19:42,003
being found alive
were extremely low.
404
00:19:42,033 --> 00:19:43,453
The report is nationwide.
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00:19:43,483 --> 00:19:45,403
Anytime you put out a report
on a missing vehicle,
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00:19:45,433 --> 00:19:47,153
it goes nationwide.
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00:19:47,183 --> 00:19:50,483
The sheriff himself had
press conferences
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00:19:51,016 --> 00:19:53,996
like twice daily
to keep the media up to date.
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00:19:54,033 --> 00:19:55,083
It was like a circus.
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00:19:55,116 --> 00:19:56,416
There has been
no breakthrough
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00:19:56,450 --> 00:19:59,400
since the last time
I talked with you.
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Harris:
Would be hundreds of people
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00:20:02,050 --> 00:20:04,430
that listened
to the press conferences
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00:20:04,466 --> 00:20:08,326
to hope that we had something
that we could follow up on.
415
00:20:08,366 --> 00:20:11,176
This is the hardest type
of abduction case to work
416
00:20:11,216 --> 00:20:14,176
because we have not developed
a definite suspect
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00:20:14,216 --> 00:20:15,376
in this case as of yet.
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00:20:15,416 --> 00:20:17,326
Right now,
we do not have anything
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00:20:17,366 --> 00:20:18,416
but an incident location.
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Jordan: We wanted these boys
to be found,
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and I remember eating
in the shopping mall
422
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and seeing two little kids
who looked like her kids
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00:20:25,166 --> 00:20:29,196
and hoping against hope
that maybe it was them.
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Reporter:
How long can the search go on?
425
00:20:31,150 --> 00:20:34,220
Until the boys are found.
That's what the sheriff says.
426
00:20:34,250 --> 00:20:37,480
But he knows that as the days
turn into a week and longer
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00:20:38,016 --> 00:20:40,096
without any promising
developments,
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the intensity of the search
will fade, as will hope.
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00:20:44,083 --> 00:20:46,203
Sheriff Wells and I were talking
back and forth
430
00:20:46,233 --> 00:20:47,373
on a minute basis.
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00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:49,100
Reporter:
Law-enforcement authorities say
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they are looking
at all possibilities.
433
00:20:51,033 --> 00:20:53,083
We left that interview,
and I was thinking,
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00:20:53,116 --> 00:20:55,316
"Nah, he's got to be
mistaken about that."
435
00:20:55,350 --> 00:20:58,370
That's when the suspicions
absolutely started to rise.
436
00:21:03,483 --> 00:21:06,283
I want to say to my babies
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00:21:06,316 --> 00:21:09,466
[sobs] that your mama
loves you so much,
438
00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:13,030
and your daddy and this
whole family loves you so much.
439
00:21:13,066 --> 00:21:16,316
I just feel in my heart
that you're okay.
440
00:21:16,350 --> 00:21:18,030
Welcome back.
441
00:21:18,066 --> 00:21:20,116
While the country
held its breath,
442
00:21:20,150 --> 00:21:22,020
waiting for news
on the whereabouts
443
00:21:22,050 --> 00:21:25,370
of young Michael and Alex Smith,
searchers scoured the area,
444
00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:28,230
looking for the boys
and their kidnapper.
445
00:21:28,266 --> 00:21:30,076
Three days into the search,
446
00:21:30,116 --> 00:21:33,376
there was no trace
of the suspect or the car.
447
00:21:33,416 --> 00:21:36,076
People were continuing
to worry
448
00:21:36,116 --> 00:21:41,176
and beginning to wonder what
really happened to those boys.
449
00:21:41,216 --> 00:21:44,196
Reporter: The eyes of the world
are on this case.
450
00:21:44,233 --> 00:21:45,453
Man: It's turned this place
upside down.
451
00:21:45,483 --> 00:21:48,203
I mean, Union's never seen
anything like this.
452
00:21:48,233 --> 00:21:50,423
Klaas: Two little boys
having been kidnapped,
453
00:21:50,450 --> 00:21:53,430
and just leaving
this poor mother stranded
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by the side of the road.
455
00:21:56,066 --> 00:22:00,446
The whole country was looking in
on Union, South Carolina,
456
00:22:00,483 --> 00:22:04,283
and was invested in
the recovery of those two boys.
457
00:22:04,316 --> 00:22:06,276
Reporter: A command center
at the sheriff's department
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00:22:06,316 --> 00:22:09,076
in Union, South Carolina,
is taking calls on the case
459
00:22:09,116 --> 00:22:11,466
around the clock
from all around the country.
460
00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:15,080
In town, posters of the
children adorn the storefronts.
461
00:22:15,116 --> 00:22:17,176
Yellow ribbons call
for their return.
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00:22:17,216 --> 00:22:21,296
Wherever they are,
God loves them,
463
00:22:21,333 --> 00:22:23,303
and we want them back.
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00:22:23,333 --> 00:22:26,273
Wells: We've had another day
of aerial search,
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water search,
a horseback patrol,
466
00:22:29,133 --> 00:22:31,323
to try to develop leads
in this case.
467
00:22:31,350 --> 00:22:33,320
Reporter: Searchers don't know
what happened.
468
00:22:33,350 --> 00:22:36,400
All they know is, somewhere,
there has to be evidence
469
00:22:36,433 --> 00:22:39,083
of the missing boys and the car.
470
00:22:39,116 --> 00:22:42,296
Time is passing by.
Our hope is not diminished.
471
00:22:42,333 --> 00:22:44,073
Our frustration has grown some
472
00:22:44,100 --> 00:22:47,130
because of a nationwide
search of this magnitude,
473
00:22:47,166 --> 00:22:50,146
with this type of coverage,
we could find the car.
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00:22:50,183 --> 00:22:52,033
Weshould
475
00:22:56,483 --> 00:22:59,123
Not only is it possible --
that's my hope right now.
476
00:22:59,150 --> 00:23:01,380
If he's still driving around,
that gives us more opportunity
477
00:23:01,416 --> 00:23:03,226
to find the vehicle
and the children.
478
00:23:03,266 --> 00:23:07,396
The entire United States
was very focused on this case.
479
00:23:07,433 --> 00:23:12,433
They wanted the answers, and
they wanted these boys found.
480
00:23:12,466 --> 00:23:14,246
When there's
a high-profile case,
481
00:23:14,283 --> 00:23:16,283
a lot of times people,
to show support,
482
00:23:16,316 --> 00:23:18,446
who have been through
the same thing, will reach out.
483
00:23:18,483 --> 00:23:21,453
And Marc Klaas, of course,
has his own organization
484
00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:23,380
and has done
a tremendous amount
485
00:23:23,416 --> 00:23:26,116
after the murder
of his daughter.
486
00:23:26,150 --> 00:23:28,320
Reporter:
Polly Klaas was abducted
at knifepoint from her bedroom
487
00:23:28,350 --> 00:23:30,120
the night of October 1st,
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as she and two girlfriends
overnighted at her house.
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00:23:33,133 --> 00:23:34,473
Klaas: We started
the KlaasKids Foundation
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00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:36,370
to keep Polly's memory alive.
491
00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:40,200
And in the ensuing years,
we have been involved
492
00:23:40,233 --> 00:23:44,153
in thousands of cases
of missing kids.
493
00:23:44,183 --> 00:23:46,473
I did get a call from David's
grandfather, Jim Martin.
494
00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:49,270
He lived in
the San Francisco Bay Area
495
00:23:49,300 --> 00:23:51,320
and was very well aware,
I guess,
496
00:23:51,350 --> 00:23:54,080
of who we were
and what we were doing.
497
00:23:54,116 --> 00:23:56,076
He asked me if I could
get involved
498
00:23:56,116 --> 00:23:57,466
in David's case somehow.
499
00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:01,380
I called the Polly Klaas
foundation to see
500
00:24:01,416 --> 00:24:03,276
if there was anything
I could do.
501
00:24:03,316 --> 00:24:05,296
I just want the kids back.
502
00:24:05,333 --> 00:24:07,403
Now, simultaneously with that,
503
00:24:07,433 --> 00:24:11,303
I was also working with
a television production company
504
00:24:11,333 --> 00:24:14,383
at the time
on missing-child cases,
505
00:24:14,416 --> 00:24:17,996
and they asked me
almost immediately
506
00:24:18,033 --> 00:24:21,173
if I would fly to South Carolina
507
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:24,130
and do something
with the Smith case.
508
00:24:24,166 --> 00:24:26,216
And working with
David's grandfather,
509
00:24:26,250 --> 00:24:30,370
we had arranged to do an
interview with David and Susan.
510
00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:33,030
When I showed up
for that interview,
511
00:24:33,066 --> 00:24:34,996
I was told that
it wasn't happening.
512
00:24:35,033 --> 00:24:36,383
They weren't talking to anybody.
513
00:24:36,416 --> 00:24:39,176
They just had this woman
talking to the cameras.
514
00:24:39,216 --> 00:24:44,016
I have a statement here,
written by Susan and David,
515
00:24:44,050 --> 00:24:45,280
and I want to read
this to you.
516
00:24:45,316 --> 00:24:47,446
Reporter:
Their parents initially made
a few pleas last week
517
00:24:47,483 --> 00:24:49,173
for the return
of their children,
518
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,050
but have since avoided
the public.
519
00:24:51,083 --> 00:24:53,303
Instead, a spokesperson
now speaks for them.
520
00:24:53,333 --> 00:24:56,023
Within a few days,
they kind of shut down
521
00:24:56,050 --> 00:24:59,020
and had a family spokesperson,
Susan's cousin,
522
00:24:59,050 --> 00:25:00,420
speak on their behalf instead.
523
00:25:00,450 --> 00:25:03,330
It is so hard to explain
how much we love
524
00:25:03,366 --> 00:25:07,376
those two little boys
and how much we miss them.
525
00:25:07,416 --> 00:25:11,196
The hardest part is not
knowing where they are.
526
00:25:11,233 --> 00:25:13,253
When you have a missing child
in your family,
527
00:25:13,283 --> 00:25:15,373
you're much better
getting rid of this woman
528
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:18,000
who's speaking on your behalf
529
00:25:18,033 --> 00:25:20,153
and getting out in front
of the cameras yourself.
530
00:25:20,183 --> 00:25:23,283
Your children's
best spokesperson is you.
531
00:25:26,050 --> 00:25:29,270
David and Susan
have been through a tragedy
532
00:25:29,300 --> 00:25:32,300
that is unimaginable
to most of us.
533
00:25:32,333 --> 00:25:35,103
And it has just been
extremely difficult for them
534
00:25:35,133 --> 00:25:37,373
to be able to gather
the emotional strength
535
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:39,200
they need to face this.
536
00:25:39,233 --> 00:25:41,483
You would expect
desperate parents
537
00:25:42,016 --> 00:25:44,416
to do whatever needed
to be done.
538
00:25:44,450 --> 00:25:48,070
So, for them to stonewall
America at this point --
539
00:25:48,100 --> 00:25:51,280
that started to lead
to some suspicions.
540
00:25:53,466 --> 00:25:56,176
There were so many things
that didn't really make sense.
541
00:25:56,216 --> 00:25:59,196
Susan had reported
that she had been carjacked.
542
00:25:59,233 --> 00:26:02,003
She had been driving along
with her kids in the car.
543
00:26:02,033 --> 00:26:04,353
The black man ran up to her
at a stoplight,
544
00:26:04,383 --> 00:26:06,183
forced his way into the car,
545
00:26:06,216 --> 00:26:09,176
and forced her to drive down
Highway 49 towards the lake,
546
00:26:09,216 --> 00:26:13,026
and forcing her out of the car,
leaving the kids in the back.
547
00:26:13,066 --> 00:26:15,066
Most carjackers
who would take a car
548
00:26:15,100 --> 00:26:17,150
not realizing there are children
in the back seat
549
00:26:17,183 --> 00:26:20,223
will immediately abandon
that car.
550
00:26:20,250 --> 00:26:22,420
They understand
that turns it into a kidnapping.
551
00:26:22,450 --> 00:26:25,350
There's a reason
they call them a carjacker --
552
00:26:25,383 --> 00:26:27,253
'cause they're looking
for the car.
553
00:26:27,283 --> 00:26:29,383
In the hierarchy
of carjacker needs,
554
00:26:29,416 --> 00:26:32,046
you know, you have the car,
you may have money.
555
00:26:32,083 --> 00:26:34,233
You could perhaps
have the female --
556
00:26:34,266 --> 00:26:35,446
you know, the adult female.
557
00:26:35,483 --> 00:26:38,353
He in no way abused her,
558
00:26:38,383 --> 00:26:41,273
touched her, molested her
in any way at all.
559
00:26:41,300 --> 00:26:43,470
While they were driving,
her purse was in the floorboard
560
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:45,180
next to his feet.
561
00:26:45,216 --> 00:26:48,176
He asked for no money.
He did not go through her purse.
562
00:26:48,216 --> 00:26:52,176
Pope: Nowhere in that hierarchy
do you see taking children.
563
00:26:52,216 --> 00:26:54,016
This is not adding up.
564
00:26:54,050 --> 00:26:55,280
The rumblings started.
565
00:26:55,316 --> 00:26:58,416
People began to look at
Susan Smith in a whole new way.
566
00:27:01,333 --> 00:27:03,273
Klaas: We started doing
some interviews,
567
00:27:03,300 --> 00:27:05,350
and we ultimately
found something
568
00:27:05,383 --> 00:27:07,423
that turned out
to be very relevant.
569
00:27:07,450 --> 00:27:11,120
And it was with the neighbor
across the street
570
00:27:11,150 --> 00:27:14,430
from the little home that
Susan lived in with the boys.
571
00:27:14,466 --> 00:27:18,126
And she had said
that she had left home,
572
00:27:18,166 --> 00:27:20,046
I believe, at 8:30 that night.
573
00:27:20,083 --> 00:27:21,423
And he goes,
"Oh, no, no, no.
574
00:27:21,450 --> 00:27:23,420
She left much earlier than that.
575
00:27:23,450 --> 00:27:26,300
She left probably
at 6:00 or 6:30."
576
00:27:26,333 --> 00:27:28,423
And we asked how he knew that,
and he said,
577
00:27:28,450 --> 00:27:31,380
"Well, I saw her leave.
I watched out the window."
578
00:27:31,416 --> 00:27:34,446
I was thinking, "Nah, he's got
to be mistaken about that,"
579
00:27:34,483 --> 00:27:38,223
but it turns out
he was right-on.
580
00:27:38,250 --> 00:27:41,130
Eftimiades: Susan changed
her story multiple times.
581
00:27:41,166 --> 00:27:44,246
When they asked her what
she had been doing that night,
582
00:27:44,283 --> 00:27:46,303
she had different accounts.
583
00:27:46,333 --> 00:27:49,053
One of them was that she was
going to visit a friend.
584
00:27:49,083 --> 00:27:50,323
Susan:
He lives in Monarch,
585
00:27:50,350 --> 00:27:53,370
and it wasn't far
from where the red light was.
586
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:57,230
I only had maybe a mile to go,
if even that long, and --
587
00:27:57,266 --> 00:27:59,326
but I didn't make it.
588
00:27:59,366 --> 00:28:02,126
But when they checked with the
friend, he wasn't expecting her.
589
00:28:02,166 --> 00:28:04,026
She had never gotten
to the friend's house.
590
00:28:04,066 --> 00:28:06,346
We questioned the friend
and found out he wasn't at home.
591
00:28:06,383 --> 00:28:08,103
He wasn't even home that night.
592
00:28:08,133 --> 00:28:10,203
So then she changed
and said that she had been
593
00:28:10,233 --> 00:28:12,173
in Walmart, walking around.
594
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:13,380
But then they checked
at Walmart,
595
00:28:13,416 --> 00:28:15,316
and no one remembered
seeing her.
596
00:28:15,350 --> 00:28:18,270
And this is a small town,
and people know each other.
597
00:28:18,300 --> 00:28:22,450
David: All the little details,
all those discrepancies --
598
00:28:22,483 --> 00:28:24,383
you know,
I didn't really put any thought
599
00:28:24,416 --> 00:28:29,116
into that kind of stuff,
because this is what my wife,
600
00:28:29,150 --> 00:28:31,420
Michael and Alex's mother,
told me had happened.
601
00:28:31,450 --> 00:28:36,250
I believed her 100%.
602
00:28:36,283 --> 00:28:38,173
There were just so many
nagging questions
603
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:40,000
about her version
of the story.
604
00:28:40,033 --> 00:28:42,153
The number-one thing that
bothered investigators
605
00:28:42,183 --> 00:28:45,333
was that intersection where she
said the carjacking occurred.
606
00:28:45,366 --> 00:28:48,446
That could not have happened
where she said that it happened.
607
00:28:48,483 --> 00:28:52,173
That's when the suspicions
absolutely started to rise.
608
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:56,320
I was stopped at a red light,
and just out of nowhere,
609
00:28:56,350 --> 00:28:58,050
this black guy came up
610
00:28:58,083 --> 00:29:00,033
and he just opened the door
and jumped in the car.
611
00:29:00,066 --> 00:29:02,166
Pope: She was saying she was
sitting at a traffic light
612
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,170
when the carjacker
gets into her car.
613
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:09,230
And on Highway 49, the light
stays green all the time
614
00:29:09,266 --> 00:29:12,096
for traffic 49 east to west.
615
00:29:12,133 --> 00:29:14,273
The only time it turns red on 49
616
00:29:14,300 --> 00:29:16,430
is when another car
comes up to it.
617
00:29:16,466 --> 00:29:18,216
So there would have been
a witness.
618
00:29:18,250 --> 00:29:20,430
I talked with Susan
at the sheriff's office --
619
00:29:20,466 --> 00:29:22,246
"Well, tell me
about the other car."
620
00:29:22,283 --> 00:29:24,233
She said,
"It was no other car."
621
00:29:24,266 --> 00:29:26,466
I said, "Are you sure?"
She said, "I'm positive."
622
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,320
She insisted,
"There were no other cars.
623
00:29:29,350 --> 00:29:32,270
There were no other witnesses.
It happened just like I said."
624
00:29:32,300 --> 00:29:37,120
I knew there was something wrong
with her answer.
625
00:29:37,150 --> 00:29:38,280
Law-enforcement authorities say
626
00:29:38,316 --> 00:29:40,476
they have no good,
credible leads yet.
627
00:29:41,016 --> 00:29:42,446
They are looking
at all possibilities,
628
00:29:42,483 --> 00:29:44,233
including the possibility
629
00:29:44,266 --> 00:29:48,296
that the mother might not
be telling the truth.
630
00:29:48,333 --> 00:29:52,133
Reporter:
David and Susan Smith have been
questioned again by the sheriff.
631
00:29:52,166 --> 00:29:54,416
They kept interviewing Susan.
632
00:29:54,450 --> 00:29:56,120
I was thinking all along,
633
00:29:56,150 --> 00:29:59,200
"If she doesn't
tell us what happened,
634
00:29:59,233 --> 00:30:01,173
we may never find out."
635
00:30:06,350 --> 00:30:09,030
Reporter: Halloween '94
in Union, South Carolina.
636
00:30:09,066 --> 00:30:11,396
The children take to the streets
downtown with their parents.
637
00:30:11,433 --> 00:30:13,403
Trick or treat!
638
00:30:13,433 --> 00:30:15,083
Christopher:
I talked to some kids.
639
00:30:15,116 --> 00:30:18,116
A couple were literally scared
because they knew
640
00:30:18,150 --> 00:30:20,130
that something had happened
to some other kids.
641
00:30:20,166 --> 00:30:21,446
Reporter:
Michael and Alex Smith,
642
00:30:21,483 --> 00:30:23,283
missing since
last Tuesday evening
643
00:30:23,316 --> 00:30:24,446
in a reported carjacking.
644
00:30:24,483 --> 00:30:26,333
They haven't been seen since.
645
00:30:30,150 --> 00:30:33,380
We're trying to find a motive
for this crime.
646
00:30:33,416 --> 00:30:37,446
We have had no ransom demand.
We have had no revenge motive.
647
00:30:37,483 --> 00:30:40,123
Jordan: As the case wore on,
tensions were very high
648
00:30:40,150 --> 00:30:42,220
because there were no breaks,
there were no leads.
649
00:30:42,250 --> 00:30:45,150
What makes it unusual is
the fact that most kidnappings
650
00:30:45,183 --> 00:30:48,033
don't occur as a result
of a carjacking.
651
00:30:48,066 --> 00:30:50,276
People were demanding answers.
652
00:30:50,316 --> 00:30:53,226
We do not have a car.
We do not have the children.
653
00:30:53,266 --> 00:30:55,116
We do not have a suspect.
654
00:30:55,150 --> 00:30:58,350
We have telephone tips,
reports matching descriptions.
655
00:30:58,383 --> 00:31:01,103
We have information coming in
from friends,
656
00:31:01,133 --> 00:31:04,133
from relatives, from psychics,
from general crackpots,
657
00:31:04,166 --> 00:31:06,126
but we've got to go
through all of it.
658
00:31:06,166 --> 00:31:10,096
Man: We will have a prayer
for Michael and Alex.
659
00:31:10,133 --> 00:31:12,203
Brackett:
Everybody wants to believe
660
00:31:12,233 --> 00:31:14,483
that these kids are out
there somewhere,
661
00:31:15,016 --> 00:31:17,176
and if we just look hard enough
and keep the pressure up,
662
00:31:17,216 --> 00:31:18,446
we're gonna find them.
663
00:31:18,483 --> 00:31:21,053
Stewart: You have to do
everything you possibly can
664
00:31:21,083 --> 00:31:24,283
within your power and
within your capability.
665
00:31:24,316 --> 00:31:28,346
And we began working
on the family situation,
666
00:31:28,383 --> 00:31:31,183
to see what, if anything,
was going on there.
667
00:31:31,216 --> 00:31:32,996
Brackett: When you're conducting
an investigation
668
00:31:33,033 --> 00:31:34,183
into something like this,
669
00:31:34,216 --> 00:31:38,196
you always have to explore
along every possible avenue.
670
00:31:38,233 --> 00:31:41,153
You can't just focus on one
and just say,
671
00:31:41,183 --> 00:31:43,083
"Well, she must be
telling the truth."
672
00:31:43,116 --> 00:31:45,126
You have to sit there and go,
"What if?"
673
00:31:48,083 --> 00:31:51,123
I haven't ruled out anyone
as a suspect.
674
00:31:51,150 --> 00:31:55,100
We would meet with
law enforcement.
675
00:31:55,133 --> 00:31:58,303
Reporter:
David and Susan Smith have been
questioned again by the sheriff.
676
00:31:58,333 --> 00:32:01,333
They had interviewed me
early on
677
00:32:01,366 --> 00:32:05,366
and given me a polygraph
and ruled me out.
678
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,280
But they kept
interviewing Susan.
679
00:32:08,316 --> 00:32:10,076
We've had questions
about her story.
680
00:32:10,116 --> 00:32:11,466
That's why we've talked
to her more than one time.
681
00:32:15,333 --> 00:32:18,383
When the sheriff kept bringing
her in for more interviews,
682
00:32:18,416 --> 00:32:21,416
and her story just never
stayed the same.
683
00:32:21,450 --> 00:32:24,150
She took several
polygraph tests.
684
00:32:24,183 --> 00:32:27,053
Stewart: We had an FBI
polygraph examiner.
685
00:32:27,083 --> 00:32:30,303
He would interview her, then
polygraph her on what she said.
686
00:32:30,333 --> 00:32:33,423
The first day, I didn't do
any polygraphs at all.
687
00:32:33,450 --> 00:32:35,080
I talked to her.
688
00:32:35,116 --> 00:32:37,326
She was a little bit hesitant
to start with.
689
00:32:37,366 --> 00:32:41,316
I asked her to recite
some of the exact details
690
00:32:41,350 --> 00:32:43,030
of the guy
getting in the car,
691
00:32:43,066 --> 00:32:45,266
and she said that,
"I've already repeated it.
692
00:32:45,300 --> 00:32:47,230
I'd rather not repeat it now."
693
00:32:47,266 --> 00:32:51,166
And that makes you think, "Well,
is she being honest about it?"
694
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:52,330
And that's why the next day
695
00:32:52,366 --> 00:32:55,116
I ran the polygraph
for the first time.
696
00:32:57,100 --> 00:33:00,230
Polygraph examinations
are a very important tool
697
00:33:00,266 --> 00:33:02,296
in the tool box
for investigators.
698
00:33:02,333 --> 00:33:05,423
We're not actually trying to
figure out what the truth is.
699
00:33:05,450 --> 00:33:08,180
We're trying to figure out
what the deception is.
700
00:33:08,216 --> 00:33:11,476
Logan:
Generally, I like to go right
to the heart of the problem.
701
00:33:12,016 --> 00:33:16,176
Are you intentionally lying
about the carjacking?
702
00:33:16,216 --> 00:33:18,276
Are you intentionally lying
about that black man
703
00:33:18,316 --> 00:33:20,096
taking your children?
704
00:33:20,133 --> 00:33:21,333
Essentially, trying to find out
705
00:33:21,366 --> 00:33:25,366
if she was being honest
about what happened.
706
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:28,280
Physiologically speaking,
you have certain things
707
00:33:28,316 --> 00:33:31,146
that manifest if you lie --
708
00:33:31,183 --> 00:33:35,103
breathing, what we call
the galvanic skin response,
709
00:33:35,133 --> 00:33:37,273
and the cardio activity.
710
00:33:37,300 --> 00:33:40,430
And, well, generally, those
three things will tell you
711
00:33:40,466 --> 00:33:44,426
if she's being deceptive
or being truthful.
712
00:33:44,466 --> 00:33:47,416
David: I remember having
discussions with her
713
00:33:47,450 --> 00:33:51,350
on how to pass
these polygraphs --
714
00:33:51,383 --> 00:33:55,233
you know, not that I've got
some kind of expertise,
715
00:33:55,266 --> 00:33:58,146
but when she's having
a tough question,
716
00:33:58,183 --> 00:34:00,383
to maybe think of something
that would,
717
00:34:00,416 --> 00:34:02,376
you know, kind of
calm her back down.
718
00:34:02,416 --> 00:34:07,216
Because I wanted them
to get past her
719
00:34:07,250 --> 00:34:11,470
and get more focus on, you know,
finding Michael and Alex.
720
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,480
And when Susan is hooked up
to a polygraph machine,
721
00:34:15,016 --> 00:34:19,346
which she voluntarily did
three different polygraph tests,
722
00:34:19,383 --> 00:34:22,283
she failed
every single one of them.
723
00:34:22,316 --> 00:34:26,096
Logan:
And we in the polygraph section
don't call people liars.
724
00:34:26,133 --> 00:34:30,003
We call them -- that she was
deceptive in her responses.
725
00:34:30,033 --> 00:34:32,433
I am just so
heart-sick over it.
726
00:34:32,466 --> 00:34:34,316
I mean,
I miss them so much.
727
00:34:34,350 --> 00:34:37,050
I've been around long enough
to realize
728
00:34:37,083 --> 00:34:40,223
that I like to trust
my polygraph charts.
729
00:34:40,250 --> 00:34:42,270
She was not telling the truth.
730
00:34:42,300 --> 00:34:44,320
And I was thinking all along,
731
00:34:44,350 --> 00:34:48,350
"If she doesn't tell us
what's going on
732
00:34:48,383 --> 00:34:53,153
and what happened,
we may never find out."
733
00:34:53,183 --> 00:34:56,153
Reporter:
Early in the day, the sheriff
reported a break in the case,
734
00:34:56,183 --> 00:34:59,323
a possible sighting of one
of the boys in Washington state.
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I never gave up hope.
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Updating our top story,
a dramatic development today
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00:35:04,266 --> 00:35:06,376
in the disappearance
of two little boys.
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Reporter: The mother and father
are arriving at this point --
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David and Susan Smith.
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00:35:16,266 --> 00:35:18,426
-♪ Happy birthday to you ♪
-It was a happy birthday
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00:35:18,466 --> 00:35:21,346
for little Alex Smith
just about two months ago --
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00:35:21,383 --> 00:35:22,473
his first birthday,
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00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,330
and he celebrated
with his older brother, Michael.
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00:35:25,366 --> 00:35:28,346
Now, almost like they fell off
the end of the Earth,
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00:35:28,383 --> 00:35:30,183
they have disappeared.
746
00:35:30,216 --> 00:35:32,166
Their mother, Susan,
reported last Tuesday night
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00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:34,420
that they had been carjacked
by a stranger.
748
00:35:34,450 --> 00:35:37,130
But local newspaper reports
now indicate
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00:35:37,166 --> 00:35:39,096
that she was given
a polygraph test
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00:35:39,133 --> 00:35:41,103
and results proved inconclusive.
751
00:35:41,133 --> 00:35:42,273
Police could tell that she was
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00:35:42,300 --> 00:35:45,270
answering their questions
with deception.
753
00:35:45,300 --> 00:35:47,000
She had something to hide.
754
00:35:47,033 --> 00:35:49,353
They wouldn't talk to me.
They had shut down, really.
755
00:35:49,383 --> 00:35:51,183
They weren't talking to anybody.
756
00:35:51,216 --> 00:35:55,326
Everyone needs to understand
that Susan and David
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00:35:55,366 --> 00:35:59,276
have been put through such
an emotional tragedy right now,
758
00:35:59,316 --> 00:36:02,396
and it's very difficult
for someone to come out here
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00:36:02,433 --> 00:36:06,033
and face this onslaught of media
that has descended upon them.
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00:36:06,066 --> 00:36:09,126
They had been so standoffish
for so long,
761
00:36:09,166 --> 00:36:12,296
for reasons that were
incomprehensible to me.
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00:36:12,333 --> 00:36:15,303
For many
armchair criminologists,
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00:36:15,333 --> 00:36:17,333
the introduction
of a family spokesperson
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00:36:17,366 --> 00:36:19,996
automatically breeds suspicion.
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00:36:20,033 --> 00:36:22,433
David:
All the media attention --
it was all overwhelming.
766
00:36:22,466 --> 00:36:28,426
But I also knew that we needed
their help desperately.
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00:36:28,466 --> 00:36:32,326
Reporter:
As you can see, we are in the
midst of a live news conference.
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00:36:32,366 --> 00:36:36,166
A bit of chaos at this point,
but we are now awaiting --
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00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:37,380
we are now awaiting the family.
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00:36:37,416 --> 00:36:39,376
The mother and father
are arriving at this point --
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00:36:39,416 --> 00:36:41,346
David and Susan Smith.
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00:36:41,383 --> 00:36:44,473
I knew the more news outlets
that were there
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00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:49,420
would get the word out,
would help try to find them.
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00:36:49,450 --> 00:36:53,180
Reporter:
After six days of seclusion,
David and Susan Smith appeared
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00:36:53,216 --> 00:36:55,066
at the county courthouse
in Union
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00:36:55,100 --> 00:36:57,480
to again plead for the return
of their children.
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00:36:58,016 --> 00:37:01,446
I just wanted to get them back,
whatever it took.
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00:37:05,416 --> 00:37:12,216
I would like to say
to whoever has my children
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00:37:12,250 --> 00:37:14,180
that they please --
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00:37:14,216 --> 00:37:16,226
I mean,please,
bring them home.
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00:37:16,266 --> 00:37:20,376
That's just where they belong,
with their mama and daddy.
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00:37:20,416 --> 00:37:24,016
Police may have their suspicions
about Susan Smith,
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00:37:24,050 --> 00:37:26,300
but their job
is to investigate the story
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00:37:26,333 --> 00:37:28,183
that she has told them.
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00:37:31,233 --> 00:37:32,403
Christopher:
Criminal specialists said,
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00:37:32,433 --> 00:37:36,253
"Well, the kids could be
anywhere by now."
787
00:37:36,283 --> 00:37:40,203
There was a lot of leads coming
in from all over the country.
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00:37:40,233 --> 00:37:41,483
Wells:
The new developments in the case
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00:37:42,016 --> 00:37:44,416
are being checked out
as we speak.
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00:37:44,450 --> 00:37:47,150
They are turning out
not to be as promising
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00:37:47,183 --> 00:37:49,253
as first anticipated.
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00:37:49,283 --> 00:37:51,173
Reporter:
In Macon, Georgia,
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00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:53,400
officers and deputies searched
a cemetery
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00:37:53,433 --> 00:37:56,423
and the surrounding area
after a 60-year old resident
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00:37:56,450 --> 00:38:01,130
reported he saw a burgundy Mazda
similar to the missing car.
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00:38:01,166 --> 00:38:04,226
The tipster said the vehicle's
South Carolina license plate
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00:38:04,266 --> 00:38:07,346
had two numbers
that matched the Smiths' plate.
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00:38:07,383 --> 00:38:12,353
The FBI questioned him and his
family extensively last night,
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00:38:12,383 --> 00:38:14,473
and I really don't know
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00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,100
if this has anything to do
with South Carolina or not.
801
00:38:17,133 --> 00:38:18,403
It's just something
you got to do.
802
00:38:18,433 --> 00:38:22,403
There had been one false alarm,
where there was a child
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00:38:22,433 --> 00:38:25,473
that matched Alex's description
in another state,
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00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,200
and they were
very excited about it.
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00:38:28,233 --> 00:38:31,203
Reporter:
Early in the day, the sheriff
reported a break in the case --
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00:38:31,233 --> 00:38:34,283
a possible sighting of one
of the boys in Washington state.
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00:38:34,316 --> 00:38:36,066
I was hoping that was the one
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00:38:36,100 --> 00:38:37,420
that we've been
waiting on so long,
809
00:38:37,450 --> 00:38:40,320
that was going to
give us our direction,
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00:38:40,350 --> 00:38:44,030
to give us some breathing room
that the children were okay
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00:38:44,066 --> 00:38:45,196
and that we could
possibly recover them
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00:38:45,233 --> 00:38:47,033
and get them back home.
813
00:38:47,066 --> 00:38:49,166
Our hearts soared for a while
that we were close
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00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:52,470
to recovering
the children in this case.
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00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:56,030
That did not happen.
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00:38:56,066 --> 00:38:58,466
The entire nine days
that we were looking
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00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:00,350
for Michael and Alex,
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00:39:00,383 --> 00:39:06,303
my only concern
was getting them back.
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00:39:06,333 --> 00:39:10,303
David: Please do not give up
on these two little boys.
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00:39:10,333 --> 00:39:15,033
Continue to look
for this car, our children,
821
00:39:15,066 --> 00:39:16,446
and for the suspect
himself,
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00:39:16,483 --> 00:39:19,073
that you continue
to keep your eyes open.
823
00:39:19,100 --> 00:39:21,020
I never gave up hope.
824
00:39:21,050 --> 00:39:27,200
Continue to pray for me
and my wife and for our family.
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00:39:27,233 --> 00:39:29,373
But most of all,
that you continue to pray
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00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,220
for Michael and Alex,
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00:39:31,250 --> 00:39:33,080
that you pray
most of all for them
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00:39:33,116 --> 00:39:37,096
and that they are being taken
care of and that they are safe.
829
00:39:37,133 --> 00:39:38,433
Tell your mama hey.You look at mama.
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00:39:38,466 --> 00:39:40,126
Yeah. Mama, hey.
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00:39:40,166 --> 00:39:42,226
-Tell her hey.-Look!
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00:39:42,266 --> 00:39:46,416
David: I couldn't accept,
in my mind's eye,
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00:39:46,450 --> 00:39:51,080
any other outcome
but them coming home.
834
00:39:51,116 --> 00:39:55,166
I didn't even consider,
you know,
835
00:39:55,200 --> 00:40:02,130
something worse
happening to them.
836
00:40:02,166 --> 00:40:04,046
It just seems so unfair
837
00:40:04,083 --> 00:40:07,083
that somebody could take
such two beautiful children.
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00:40:07,116 --> 00:40:10,016
Jordan: As time went on
and the boys weren't recovered,
839
00:40:10,050 --> 00:40:13,450
we started looking
very carefully at Susan Smith.
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00:40:13,483 --> 00:40:16,173
Charles: And the police knew
from the get-go
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00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:19,320
that her story
had a big hole in it.
842
00:40:19,350 --> 00:40:22,280
They didn'tsay
about that.
843
00:40:22,316 --> 00:40:25,196
There was just too many things
that didn't add up.
844
00:40:25,233 --> 00:40:28,333
Jordan: How many carjackers are
coming up in rural America
845
00:40:28,366 --> 00:40:31,146
in the middle of the night
and taking a Mazda
846
00:40:31,183 --> 00:40:33,403
and forcing the mom out and
taking these two little kids?
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00:40:33,433 --> 00:40:35,073
Wells:
We've followed every lead.
848
00:40:35,100 --> 00:40:36,280
We've had people go in
every other state
849
00:40:36,316 --> 00:40:37,446
where there's been a tip,
850
00:40:37,483 --> 00:40:39,333
and as none of those
have developed,
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00:40:39,366 --> 00:40:40,416
we've come right back here
852
00:40:40,450 --> 00:40:42,430
'cause this is where
the incident occurred.
853
00:40:42,466 --> 00:40:44,996
The truth is going to come out.
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00:40:45,033 --> 00:40:46,333
Paschal: I talked to
the sheriff, and I said,
855
00:40:46,366 --> 00:40:49,176
"I have reason to believe that
Susan's not telling the truth."
856
00:40:49,216 --> 00:40:53,076
She was having a relationship
with a young man.
857
00:40:53,116 --> 00:40:55,076
She just told me
that she was so ashamed,
858
00:40:55,116 --> 00:40:57,426
that she was so ashamed.
859
00:40:57,466 --> 00:40:59,326
Reporter:
A dramatic development today
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00:40:59,366 --> 00:41:02,446
in the disappearance
of two little boys.
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00:41:02,483 --> 00:41:07,153
After nine days, she told the
sheriff what really happened.
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00:41:07,183 --> 00:41:09,033
We're going to make
a brief announcement.
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00:41:09,066 --> 00:41:12,396
You could just hear this gasp
in the crowd.
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00:41:12,433 --> 00:41:14,253
I'll never forget that.
865
00:41:14,283 --> 00:41:18,203
Brackett: Just a horrifying
moment of realization
866
00:41:18,233 --> 00:41:20,233
that this is really happening.
867
00:41:20,266 --> 00:41:26,316
My life had just --
as I knew it, had just stopped.
868
00:41:26,350 --> 00:41:32,280
I had no idea what to do
from that point on.
869
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:37,420
After nine long days
and an extensive
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00:41:37,450 --> 00:41:40,270
cross-country search
for Michael and Alex Smith,
871
00:41:40,300 --> 00:41:43,150
there was finally a break
in the case.
872
00:41:43,183 --> 00:41:45,473
The boys had been found.
873
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,130
But the circumstances
surrounding their disappearance
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00:41:48,166 --> 00:41:51,266
and recovery
would shock the world
875
00:41:51,300 --> 00:41:54,270
and shake young David Smith
to his core.
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00:41:54,300 --> 00:41:56,370
Betrayal, deception,
and discovery,
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00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:59,280
in Part Two of
"How It Really Happened."
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00:41:59,316 --> 00:42:02,166
I'm Hill Harper.
Thanks for watching.
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