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♪♪
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Do I say that funny?
Guitar
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Man: Guitar?
Guitar?
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No, you're from Texas.
They're expecting a drawl.
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Guitar, yeah.
[ Laughs ]
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Where's your Texas drawl?
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I think I've kind of lost it
through the years.
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I used to be really bad, but I
think traveling and everything,
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I've kind of picked up
everybody's accents
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and kind of made it
into one.
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♪♪
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♪♪
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Welcome to
"How It Really Happened."
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I'm Hill Harper.
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She is a Latina icon,
cut down at 23
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on the cusp
of superstardom,
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an all-American kid
raised in Texas
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whose charm, talent,
and legend loom so large,
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she is known only by
one name -- Selena.
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It was the introduction
of an obsessive fan
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into Selena's world
that would change everything.
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It would alter the path
of Selena's life
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and ultimately lead
to her shocking murder.
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The events of that day --
bizarre, confusing,
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and for many, inconceivable.
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Here's "How It Really Happened."
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Selena:
I was wearing this long dress,
and what was going through
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my mind was like,
"Please, Selena, don't fall.
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I'll be so embarrassed."
[ Laughs ]
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Anyway, it was really great.
I'll never forget it.
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It's something to remember
always, always.
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Today we're looking into
the death of Selena...
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There you go.
[ Laughs ]
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Cossack:
...and the woman who's accused
of murdering her.
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Initially, what we heard was
that Selena had been shot.
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Woman: Police officers
and SWAT Team members
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are still trying to negotiate
the alleged killer.
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Yolanda: [ Sobbing ] I was
trying to show her the gun!
Man: What?
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You could hear her crying
and a lot of whimpering.
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Saying that she had done
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something real bad
to her friend.
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Young: She made it clear that
whatever happened to her,
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she didn't mean it.
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Yolanda:
I didn't mean to do it!
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Man: What do you mean?
It was an accident!
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You know, I don't believe it.
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Cortina-Weiss:
How could this have happened?
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We have lost a superstar.
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It's heartbreaking.
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Why would somebody kill this
23-year-old singer?
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Why would she kill her?
It made no sense at all.
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♪♪
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[ Cheers and applause ]
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At the time Selena died, she was
the biggest act in Tejano music.
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Selena: Tejano music is
a mixture of music.
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You have the German polka.
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You have a little bit
of country.
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You have Mexican music, and it's
all fused into one melting pot.
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She was working on her
first English-language album,
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and it included the track
"Dreaming of You."
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Selena:
♪ 'Cause I'm dreaming ♪
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♪ Of you tonight ♪
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♪ Till tomorrow ♪
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♪ I'll be holding you tight ♪
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The excitement was insane,
you know?
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This was one of
the biggest dreams.
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We've waited for this
for very long time,
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and we're really
looking forward to it.
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There was no question in my mind
that she was at least the equal
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or was going to blow past both
Gloria Estefan and Madonna.
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People predicted she was going
to be a huge, huge star.
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Man: When did you know you
wanted to be a performer?
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Very young. I started singing
when I was 6 1/2
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and recorded my first record
when I was 8 years old.
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Abraham, Selena's father,
created this band with his kids,
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named it Selena y Los Dinos.
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Selena:
My father had this really
good job, and it was about '81.
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The economy went down.
We went under.
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We had to file for bankruptcy.
We lost everything.
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So that's how we got into
the music as a profession.
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That was our way of putting
bread and butter on the table.
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The band starts touring,
and every weekend,
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Los Dinos are out there
playing on the Tejano circuit.
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Her father was her manager.
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Sterling: Her brother, A.B.,
played a bass,
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and her sister,
Suzette, played the drums.
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Cortina-Weiss:
And later she fell in love with
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and wound up marrying
her guitar player, Chris Pérez.
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It's great to have somebody I
can share this good stuff with.
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Selena and I recorded
for Capitol EMI Latin
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during the same time,
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and we performed
at events together.
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It is a real danceable music.
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Casarez: She was a lovely,
lovely person.
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She was incredibly charismatic.
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Like, the whole thing
wasn't taping? [ Laughs ]
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She was very down-to-earth.
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I don't think I ever
saw her upset.
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She was bubbly and fun.
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Gomez: I don't think I've ever
come across a human
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that was that kind.
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Astudillo: Just her spirit,
just her energy,
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her laughter
was contagious.
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[ Laughter ]
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I'm just joking.
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No, more like Menudo.
That's what Robert said.
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In the early '90s, things
started to change with Selena.
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She's got a string of hits
that were huge.
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She's got "Bidi Bidi Bom Bom."
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♪ Bidi bidi bom bom ♪
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♪ Bidi bidi bom bom ♪
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♪ Bidi bidi bom bom ♪
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♪ Bidi bidi bom bom ♪
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♪ Bidi bidi bidi
bidi bidi bom bom ♪
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She's got "Como La Flor."
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♪ Como la flor,
como La flor ♪
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♪ Con tanto amor,
con tanto amor ♪
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♪ Me diste tú ♪
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And she's got "Amor Prohibido."
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♪ Amor prohibido
murmuran por las calles ♪
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It's talking about
a forbidden love.
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Selena was becoming a bigger
and bigger star
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through those years.
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She won a Grammy in 1994
for best Mexican-American album.
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Selena:
I didn't think I had a chance
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because of the top names
that were in the category.
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So just the venues
just start getting bigger.
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The crowds just started
getting bigger.
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Selena: We've broken the record
twice in a row
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at the Houston Astrodome
for attendance record there.
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Casarez: Her star kept going up
and up and up.
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She was crossing boundaries
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that had not been
crossed before.
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That's really neat.
You know, whereas before
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I was like, "Oh, they don't even
know I exist,"
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now they do,
so it's really neat.
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In the middle of all these
things blowing up for Selena
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comes another big change,
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and that's a woman
named Yolanda Saldivar.
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I don't think anybody, anybody
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would have imagined
what unfolded.
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♪♪
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I really don't believe
in competing with anybody.
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I'm sure about what I'm doing,
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and I don't feel like
I have to be looking back
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or seeing what the person
next to me is doing.
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There's room enough
for everybody.
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♪♪
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Young: We don't know why exactly
she shot Selena.
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She just said that
she did something
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that she didn't want to do,
and, "my friend" --
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and she kept saying
that over and over again,
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"my friend" -- you know,
that she shot her,
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and -- but she didn't intend
to do that.
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♪♪
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At the beginning of the 1990s,
Tejano music
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was growing immensely,
and so was Selena.
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And that was right
when she met Yolanda.
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Yolanda Saldivar comes into
the picture because she's a fan.
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She was a registered nurse
who was living in San Antonio.
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Cortina-Weiss:
Goes to a Selena concert,
sees Selena, loves her,
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and begins to reach out
to Abraham.
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We met Yolanda back in 1991.
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That first initial encounter
with her
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was just a voice
on the telephone.
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She contacted Selena's father
multiple times.
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She asked if she could start
a fan club,
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and people would send
in their money,
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and they'd get sent
a T-shirt or pictures
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or other things like that.
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She's quite persistent in asking
that she be the founder
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and that she run it.
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Eventually, Abraham said,
"why not?"
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And Yolanda did a pretty job
of getting people to join.
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The numbers grew.
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I mean, it grew into the
thousands pretty quickly.
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So there was some money
on the table.
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♪♪
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Yolanda started out
as kind of an outsider,
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but worked her way
into the inner circle.
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Yolanda then started doing
other things for Selena.
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Selena, by all accounts,
really liked Yolanda.
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Patoski: Yolanda builds up
a role as gatekeeper.
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"If you want to get to her,
you got to go through me."
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And it gave Yolanda
a purpose in life.
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Patoski:
She's somebody all of a sudden.
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Reynoso: She was always around
Selena and her family.
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If you see pictures,
if you see footage,
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you'll always see she that
she was right next to her.
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Gomez: She was such a nurturer,
especially with Selena.
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She was over-nurturing,
to the point now
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that it was almost obsession.
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♪♪
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I have three businesses --
actually, two businesses.
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The third one is going to be
opening up October 1st
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in San Antonio.
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While her music is booming,
she's also becoming
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really famous for her fashion,
for her style.
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She designed much
of what she wore herself.
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Singing was her job,
but fashion was her passion.
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♪♪
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-There you go.
-Just like that?
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She's beautiful.
Look at that. [ Laughs ]
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Cortina-Weiss:
And so she opened her boutiques
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in San Antonio and Corpus,
where she could sell outfits
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that were very much inspired
by her stage outfits,
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and people ate it up.
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This is unique clothing.
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You're not going to find it
at any department store.
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We have a little bit
of everything.
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We carry clothing,
and we carry salon services,
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which is like perms,
hair weaves.
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[ Laughs ]
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♪♪
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When she goes off to realize
her personal dream
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of designing fashion
and opening boutiques,
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Yolanda is right in there
with her and by her side.
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It was believed that Yolanda
had done such a great job
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with the fan club,
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why not make her manager
of the boutiques?
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Now remember, she's a nurse
by trade,
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really no business
experience at all,
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but suddenly she had a pivotal
role in the family organization.
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It got to a point
where Yolanda Saldivar
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had access to Selena's
whole business empire.
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This gave Yolanda Saldivar
the opening
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she needed to do
whatever it is she wanted to do.
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We accepted her as a friend.
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Never in my wildest dreams
did I ever foresee
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or even -- the thought
ever entered my mind
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that this woman
would do something like this.
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Valdez: Yolanda was Selena's
right-hand person.
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She was extremely manipulative.
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She has a way of finding out
what moves people
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and how to get people
to do what she wants.
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I don't think they had any idea
that they were dealing with
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the kind of person
that wasn't at all deserving
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of their trust.
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Casarez:
So at the end of 1994,
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I guess Yolanda got
an idea that,
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wouldn't it be nice for all
the employees of the boutiques
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to pool their money
and buy Selena a ring
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to show Selena how much
she was cared for.
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Yolanda had taken up some funds
from the employees
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to give Selena a present.
Larry King: Mm-hmm.
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And Selena has a collection
of Fabergé eggs at her home,
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so they made her a ring
with a little egg on top of it.
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Valdez:
Yolanda told her, "Selena,
I bought this for you.
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This is a present for you,"
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so when Selena opened it,
she loved it.
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She took it, and she
put it on and said,
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"This is our friendship ring.
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This is signifying
our friendship forever.
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I will never take this off
because, Yolanda,
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we'll be friends forever."
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Patoski: Selena was thrilled
at the gift.
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I mean, how nice to go to
all this effort
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and such a beautiful,
elaborate ring,
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and she put it on
and wore it all the time.
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I mean, you can see it
in the promo pictures.
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You can see it everywhere.
That became part of her.
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She did wear the ring a lot,
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and she was wearing the ring
the day she died.
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♪♪
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Valdez: There were some people
that were concerned
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about Yolanda
being around Selena.
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Gomez:
When she came back, she goes,
"Martin, it's very scary."
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I said, "I'm really nervous
she's going to hurt you."
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♪♪
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[ Cheers and applause ]
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Selena: It's a great feeling,
and it's flattering to know
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that there's a lot of people
who buy our music,
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and there's little kids
who learn our songs
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and try to dance like me.
I think it's great.
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It's very flattering.
[ Camera shutter clicking ]
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Woman:
We have a woman who in the
lobby, said she's been shot.
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-Woman 2: Okay, who shot her?
-The lady in 158.
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It was this woman
that was obsessed with her.
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It was just utter disbelief.
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The day that I received the call
to go to the emergency room,
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that Selena had had an accident,
is what they told me.
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But when I got
to the emergency room
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and I saw all the people
standing out in the streets,
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I knew that something other
than that had happened.
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♪♪
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[ Camera shutters clicking ]
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Cortina-Weiss:
So March 1995 comes around.
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Selena is juggling a lot.
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She's working on her
English-language album.
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And one of the songs that
came out of that album was
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"I Could Fall in Love."
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Selena: ♪ I could fall
in love ♪
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♪ With you ♪
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She's got these two
really successful boutiques.
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She's looking at expansion
into Mexico.
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Things are going really,
really well.
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Sterling: And Yolanda was
in charge of everything,
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but people were complaining
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about things
that were happening.
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Mr. Quintanilla,
Selena's father,
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started getting phone calls.
[ Phone rings ]
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The phone calls
were all the same.
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"Mr. Quintanilla,
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I've sent in my money
to the fan club,
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and I haven't
gotten anything."
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Abraham went back and began
to look at the books
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and see what's going on here,
and as he reviewed the books
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of not only the boutiques,
but the books of the fan club,
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he began to see that
there were discrepancies,
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and he began to suspect that
there was embezzlement going on.
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Abraham Quintanilla
came to the conclusion
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that Yolanda Saldivar
had embezzled about $30,000
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from Selena Quintanilla's
businesses.
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She was never charged with this.
She was never convicted of this,
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but Abraham believed
he had his evidence.
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Reynoso: Then a lot of employees
at Selena's boutiques
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started to complain
to Selena
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about Yolanda Saldivar's
behavior towards them.
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Sterling: She tried to be
very controlling.
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She wanted to be in charge
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completely of
who had access to Selena.
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There were some people
that were concerned
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about Yolanda
being around Selena.
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One of those people
was Martin Gomez.
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Gomez:
We had ordered zippers,
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and the zippers were
delivered to Yolanda's home.
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And I had my assistant
go pick them up,
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and when she came back she goes,
"Martin, it's very scary.
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It's wall-to-wall pictures
of Selena."
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♪♪
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And I remember thinking,
"This is kind of weird.
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You know, it's kind of
a little bit obsessive."
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He thought, "This isn't good."
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Gomez: And then one time
I went to the dentist,
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and my insurance
hadn't been paid out,
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and so I came back
and I said,
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"Yolanda, my insurance
hasn't been paid out,
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and they're saying it hasn't
been paid out for 6 months."
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And she says, "Oh, I'll fix it,
but don't tell Selena."
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Well, of course,
I'm going to tell Selena.
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♪♪
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And Selena says, "Martin,
she's got it under control.
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Don't worry about it."
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And that kind of
started us in turmoil.
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Valdez: He could see Yolanda
manipulating Selena.
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He knew there was something
wrong there,
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so he separated
from the business.
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I basically went to her,
and said,
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"I don't think
this is going to work."
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"Girl," I said,
"I'm really nervous
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she's going to hurt you,"
and I meant hurt her physically.
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I think Selena heard
"hurt her reputation."
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♪♪
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I think weeks had passed by.
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She calls me on the phone,
and I remember I said,
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"Selena, I'm really
scared for you."
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One thing that Selena
would always say in Spanish
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"Cuidate,"
"Take care of yourself,"
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and I remember telling her,
"Girl,cuidate."
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She giggled. She goes,
"You worry too much."
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And that was
the last conversation
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that I had with her.
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We're just really excited,
and we just hope that, you know,
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we can do the best that we can
and people accept our music.
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♪♪
366
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All these things kind of kept
coming up, coming up,
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and they all led back
to Yolanda Saldivar.
368
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The problem was Selena
didn't believe her dad,
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already didn't believe
Martin Gomez.
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"She can't be doing this."
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Cortina-Weiss: She doesn't
really want to believe
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that somebody who's become
a trusted friend
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and is in her inner circle
is doing this damage.
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So the family decided, "Okay,
you don't believe us, Selena?
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Let's bring her in here
and ask her those questions."
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00:17:02,266 --> 00:17:07,476
♪♪
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Valdez: So Mr. Quintanilla
called a meeting
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at the studio on Thursday,
March the 9th,
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and there was this confrontation
at the meeting between
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Mr. Quintanilla and Selena
on the one side
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and Yolanda on the other.
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Abraham: By this time, you know,
things were going downhill.
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We had showed her
the evidence that we had.
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Casarez: She needed to prove
that she was not taking money,
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and if she couldn't prove that,
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she would no longer
be associated with Selena.
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Cossack:
Yolanda denies everything,
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says she can come up with
the records that are missing
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and says that she can prove
that she's innocent.
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00:17:49,183 --> 00:17:51,253
King: You weren't going to
prosecute her or anything?
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No, sir, we were
going to fire her.
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Mm-hmm.
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But I wasn't going
to prosecute her.
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I was, you know, angered
at the moment
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because she --
everything that I showed her
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and asked her about it,
she had no answer for it,
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and I was frustrated because
we knew that she was lying.
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♪♪
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Cortina-Weiss: So Abraham,
who's now heard enough,
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relieves her of her managerial
duties and tells her to go.
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00:18:18,050 --> 00:18:20,130
Casarez:
He took her off bank accounts.
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00:18:20,166 --> 00:18:22,176
He took her name off anything
403
00:18:22,216 --> 00:18:26,466
where she could continue
to steal money -- allegedly.
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00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:28,350
Never in my wildest dreams
did I think
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that this woman was going
to react this way.
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00:18:30,300 --> 00:18:33,450
♪♪
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00:18:33,483 --> 00:18:35,133
Valdez:
So Yolanda takes off.
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She goes to a gun store
in San Antonio,
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A Place to Shoot,
and buys the gun.
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00:18:41,050 --> 00:18:42,350
♪♪
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The proprietor said
she told him
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she was a home
health care nurse
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and was working
for a patient
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whose family was
threatening her,
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00:18:52,033 --> 00:18:55,473
and she needed a gun
for protection.
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Cossack: What happens is,
Yolanda then asks
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for another meeting
with only Selena.
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00:19:04,016 --> 00:19:09,016
Selena, wanting to be nice,
said to her,
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"Look, you can still be
in charge
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of the business in Mexico,"
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in essence giving her
another chance.
422
00:19:16,250 --> 00:19:18,120
Very dangerous in hindsight.
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00:19:18,150 --> 00:19:21,020
She just wanted to trust.
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00:19:21,050 --> 00:19:25,420
It was this trust in this woman
that led to her death.
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00:19:25,450 --> 00:19:28,070
♪♪
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00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:32,180
Talk about your boutique.
Yes.
427
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You have expansion plans
there, too, as well?
428
00:19:33,450 --> 00:19:37,080
Yes, we are negotiating
right now to be franchising out.
429
00:19:37,116 --> 00:19:39,226
There's also going to be
a perfume
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00:19:39,266 --> 00:19:41,396
that's going to be coming out,
the Selena perfume,
431
00:19:41,433 --> 00:19:44,023
and it's going to smell like
chorizo and huevos.
432
00:19:44,050 --> 00:19:46,450
[ Laughter ]
433
00:19:46,483 --> 00:19:48,433
Welcome back.
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By March 1995, Latina singing
sensation Selena Quintanilla
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00:19:52,166 --> 00:19:54,376
was working on
an English-language album,
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00:19:54,416 --> 00:19:57,996
preparing to become
a mainstream pop star,
437
00:19:58,033 --> 00:20:00,253
but at the same time,
there was trouble brewing.
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00:20:00,283 --> 00:20:02,373
Her family believed
Yolanda Saldivar,
439
00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:05,320
her friend, boutique manager,
and fan-club president,
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00:20:05,350 --> 00:20:08,180
was embezzling money
and needed to be let go.
441
00:20:08,216 --> 00:20:12,116
But Selena -- lovely, kind,
trusting Selena --
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00:20:12,150 --> 00:20:15,070
wasn't ready
to believe it...yet.
443
00:20:15,100 --> 00:20:18,080
No one could have predicted
the horrifying fatal turn
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00:20:18,116 --> 00:20:20,096
the story would take.
445
00:20:20,133 --> 00:20:22,023
[ Cheers and applause ]
446
00:20:22,050 --> 00:20:23,320
Woman: I have to ask you this
because I know it's --
447
00:20:23,350 --> 00:20:25,270
you've heard this before,
but they keep calling you
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00:20:25,300 --> 00:20:26,420
the next Gloria Estefan.
449
00:20:26,450 --> 00:20:29,480
How does it feel to be compared
to somebody like Gloria?
450
00:20:30,016 --> 00:20:31,296
I take it as a compliment.
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00:20:31,333 --> 00:20:37,153
♪♪
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00:20:37,183 --> 00:20:39,073
Yolanda had spearheaded
a campaign
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00:20:39,100 --> 00:20:42,250
amongst the employees
to buy a ring for Selena.
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She loved this ring.
She wore it all of the time.
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00:20:45,050 --> 00:20:47,020
Sterling: We later learned that
Yolanda had allegedly
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collected money from a group
of people for this gift,
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00:20:50,166 --> 00:20:53,016
got the ring designed,
presented it to Selena
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like it was a gift
from Yolanda alone,
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and paid for it
with the company credit card.
460
00:20:58,066 --> 00:21:01,466
It was a really ominous
sign of what was still to come.
461
00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:04,400
Looking back,
this is a huge red flag.
462
00:21:04,433 --> 00:21:07,473
If she had known that Yolanda
really didn't buy the ring
463
00:21:08,016 --> 00:21:10,246
with her money, I think
that would've changed things.
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00:21:10,283 --> 00:21:12,153
I don't think I'd be
sitting here today.
465
00:21:12,183 --> 00:21:15,183
Cossack: I'm not sure that
anybody ever suspected
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00:21:15,216 --> 00:21:17,276
that she was
capable of murder.
467
00:21:17,316 --> 00:21:19,166
♪♪
468
00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:22,150
Young: We know that Yolanda
had a gun.
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00:21:22,183 --> 00:21:26,083
We believe that the situation
was highly charged,
470
00:21:26,116 --> 00:21:30,296
and that Yolanda probably,
based on what she said,
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00:21:30,333 --> 00:21:34,003
was angry at being confronted
about something.
472
00:21:34,033 --> 00:21:36,053
Man: The only eyewitness has
said it's an accident.
473
00:21:36,083 --> 00:21:37,483
Either she did it intentionally,
474
00:21:38,016 --> 00:21:40,046
or she did not do it
intentionally.
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00:21:40,083 --> 00:21:44,403
♪♪
476
00:21:44,433 --> 00:21:46,173
It's tax time.
477
00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:50,400
It's March, and it's time
to gather a bunch of documents
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from the businesses
to file tax returns.
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00:21:53,216 --> 00:21:55,446
Patoski: By the end of March,
the Quintanilla family
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was convinced Yolanda Saldivar
was embezzling
481
00:21:59,266 --> 00:22:02,116
from the fan club,
from the boutique,
482
00:22:02,150 --> 00:22:04,170
from all of Selena's
related businesses
483
00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:06,450
that she had had authority
to sign off on.
484
00:22:06,483 --> 00:22:10,483
You got to remember that Selena
was just starting her business.
485
00:22:11,016 --> 00:22:12,166
She had just started
the boutiques
486
00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:13,450
this past year,
487
00:22:13,483 --> 00:22:16,303
and so she was still trying
to get things rolling
488
00:22:16,333 --> 00:22:17,473
and organized.
489
00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:21,000
Selena was in the middle
of recording the English album.
490
00:22:21,033 --> 00:22:23,383
She was also on tour
performing
491
00:22:23,416 --> 00:22:25,366
sometimes three concerts
a weekend.
492
00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:29,250
Patoski:
She had just done this concert
selling out the Astrodome,
493
00:22:29,283 --> 00:22:31,073
and it was an incredible
performance.
494
00:22:31,100 --> 00:22:32,220
It really was.
495
00:22:32,250 --> 00:22:39,380
[ Singing in Spanish ]
496
00:22:39,416 --> 00:22:43,016
[ Continues in Spanish ]
497
00:22:43,050 --> 00:22:44,180
[ Cheers and applause ]
498
00:22:44,216 --> 00:22:46,116
She was just literally so busy
499
00:22:46,150 --> 00:22:47,300
that she was counting
on this person
500
00:22:47,333 --> 00:22:50,083
to get all of the records
to where they needed to go.
501
00:22:50,116 --> 00:22:53,266
Selena asked Yolanda
for the bank statements,
502
00:22:53,300 --> 00:22:56,430
and there seems to be
some hemming and hawing.
503
00:22:56,466 --> 00:22:59,416
Selena is realizing
something is wrong.
504
00:22:59,450 --> 00:23:01,120
Valdez:
Selena kept calling Yolanda,
505
00:23:01,150 --> 00:23:03,050
telling her,
"I need those documents.
506
00:23:03,083 --> 00:23:04,333
I need those documents,"
507
00:23:04,366 --> 00:23:09,046
so Yolanda agreed that she
would drive to Corpus Christi.
508
00:23:09,083 --> 00:23:11,453
She wasn't taking the documents.
She was taking the gun.
509
00:23:11,483 --> 00:23:17,123
♪♪
510
00:23:17,150 --> 00:23:20,020
Sterling: So on March 30th,
Yolanda drives to Corpus
511
00:23:20,050 --> 00:23:23,370
and checks into the Days Inn.
512
00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:26,230
Valdez: Yolanda calls Selena
and says, "Selena,
513
00:23:26,266 --> 00:23:29,226
I've got your papers here.
Come by."
514
00:23:29,266 --> 00:23:39,026
♪♪
515
00:23:39,066 --> 00:23:41,046
Cortina-Weiss: Selena actually
gets in the car
516
00:23:41,083 --> 00:23:43,403
and drives herself
to the scene
517
00:23:43,433 --> 00:23:46,273
where she'll ultimately
be murdered,
518
00:23:46,300 --> 00:23:48,180
because she trusts.
519
00:23:48,216 --> 00:23:50,416
She trusted someone
that was...
520
00:23:50,450 --> 00:23:52,470
in essence, evil.
521
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:57,120
Selena shows up in room 158
at the Days Inn motel.
522
00:23:57,150 --> 00:24:00,050
At that meeting,
she was firing Yolanda?
523
00:24:00,083 --> 00:24:01,273
Yes, sir.
524
00:24:01,300 --> 00:24:04,020
Selena decided she was
going to cut her losses
525
00:24:04,050 --> 00:24:05,420
and let her go,
526
00:24:05,450 --> 00:24:08,300
but she needed
the bank statements.
527
00:24:08,333 --> 00:24:12,033
Yolanda had told Selena
that on her last trip to Mexico
528
00:24:12,066 --> 00:24:14,166
that she had been raped,
529
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:18,180
so Selena, being the giving
person she was,
530
00:24:18,216 --> 00:24:21,246
accompanied Yolanda
to the local hospital.
531
00:24:21,283 --> 00:24:22,383
Like any good friend would do.
532
00:24:22,416 --> 00:24:24,046
I mean, how could you
ignore somebody
533
00:24:24,083 --> 00:24:26,423
who said they'd been
sexually assaulted?
534
00:24:26,450 --> 00:24:30,130
Harris: When Selena and Yolanda
came into the E.R.,
535
00:24:30,166 --> 00:24:32,396
Selena was a little bit
guarded,
536
00:24:32,433 --> 00:24:36,303
but yet you could tell that
she cared about this woman.
537
00:24:36,333 --> 00:24:40,433
And Yolanda's demeanor
was very flat.
538
00:24:40,466 --> 00:24:42,226
Skurka: There were some
major discrepancies
539
00:24:42,266 --> 00:24:45,316
while Yolanda was giving
her history to the nurses.
540
00:24:45,350 --> 00:24:48,100
[ Clicking ]
541
00:24:48,133 --> 00:24:51,303
Harris: Yolanda told me that
she had been assaulted
542
00:24:51,333 --> 00:24:54,133
in Mexico
and hit with a bat.
543
00:24:54,166 --> 00:24:58,216
[ Camera shutter clicking ]
544
00:24:58,250 --> 00:24:59,400
From what I could see,
545
00:24:59,433 --> 00:25:02,173
there was no injuries
that fit that pattern.
546
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,100
Sterling: Yolanda had
the clothes on that she said
547
00:25:04,133 --> 00:25:06,283
she was
sexually assaulted in.
548
00:25:06,316 --> 00:25:09,346
The people who worked
at the hospital were suspicious
549
00:25:09,383 --> 00:25:12,273
because the damage to
the clothes looked like damage
550
00:25:12,300 --> 00:25:15,180
that somebody had done
with a pair of scissors.
551
00:25:15,216 --> 00:25:18,326
They didn't look like something
that happened during an assault.
552
00:25:18,366 --> 00:25:21,066
Her story doesn't add up.
553
00:25:21,100 --> 00:25:23,020
Sterling:
We think Yolanda's motivation
554
00:25:23,050 --> 00:25:25,220
was to get sympathy
from Selena,
555
00:25:25,250 --> 00:25:28,020
and maybe things
could turn around,
556
00:25:28,050 --> 00:25:32,070
and Selena would forgive her
for what was going on.
557
00:25:32,100 --> 00:25:37,130
Harris:
About 11 o'clock, I went in
to see my next patient,
558
00:25:37,166 --> 00:25:40,226
and Selena stopped by the room
where I was at the time,
559
00:25:40,266 --> 00:25:43,216
and she just looked at me,
560
00:25:43,250 --> 00:25:45,450
and she says,
"Do you believe her?"
561
00:25:45,483 --> 00:25:47,433
And I said, "Do I believe what?"
562
00:25:47,466 --> 00:25:51,126
And she said, "Do you think
she's been raped?"
563
00:25:51,166 --> 00:25:55,376
And I said, "Honey,
it's not up to me to decide
564
00:25:55,416 --> 00:25:57,996
whether she's been
assaulted or not.
565
00:25:58,033 --> 00:26:02,353
She says she has,
then she has."
566
00:26:02,383 --> 00:26:07,253
And she said "Oh, well, okay."
And she left.
567
00:26:07,283 --> 00:26:11,323
And then I thought to myself
right at that point,
568
00:26:11,350 --> 00:26:15,080
"Wow, she's got a doubt."
569
00:26:15,116 --> 00:26:19,416
Patoski:
I think Selena had finally
seen and understood
570
00:26:19,450 --> 00:26:22,070
what her father
had been telling her
571
00:26:22,100 --> 00:26:24,230
or what Martin Gomez
told her.
572
00:26:24,266 --> 00:26:26,176
"Yolanda has been
stealing from you.
573
00:26:26,216 --> 00:26:29,116
She hasn't been
telling the truth."
574
00:26:29,150 --> 00:26:32,230
Selena drives Yolanda
back to the Days Inn,
575
00:26:32,266 --> 00:26:35,146
and at the door,
they're talking,
576
00:26:35,183 --> 00:26:37,373
and it's pretty clear
it's over.
577
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:41,380
Selena wants to drop her off,
get her paperwork, and leave.
578
00:26:41,416 --> 00:26:45,196
By the time that
hotel room meeting comes along,
579
00:26:45,233 --> 00:26:50,083
it had risen to a high boil.
580
00:26:50,116 --> 00:26:52,046
Nobody else was there,
so we don't know
581
00:26:52,083 --> 00:26:54,133
what the conversation
actually was
582
00:26:54,166 --> 00:26:56,366
other than what Yolanda says.
583
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,320
Cortina-Weiss:
They have a conversation,
584
00:26:58,350 --> 00:27:02,420
presumably about
the bank statements,
585
00:27:02,450 --> 00:27:05,180
and at some point,
a gun comes out.
586
00:27:11,133 --> 00:27:13,073
What do you do with all of
this success you're having?
587
00:27:13,100 --> 00:27:16,130
I'm enjoying every bit of it,
and it's like a dream come true,
588
00:27:16,166 --> 00:27:18,246
and it's like I don't want
anybody to wake me up from it.
589
00:27:18,283 --> 00:27:19,333
It's been a great year.
590
00:27:19,366 --> 00:27:21,296
This year has been
really wonderful.
591
00:27:21,333 --> 00:27:28,003
♪♪
592
00:27:28,033 --> 00:27:30,173
Sterling: The evidence shows
that Yolanda had taken
593
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:31,420
the gun out of her purse.
594
00:27:31,450 --> 00:27:35,070
Selena saw the gun and was
attempting to leave the room.
595
00:27:35,100 --> 00:27:38,130
Selena turned around,
and pow...
596
00:27:38,166 --> 00:27:39,266
[ Gunshot ]
597
00:27:39,300 --> 00:27:41,250
...one single shot.
598
00:27:43,083 --> 00:27:45,423
Sterling: We know Selena was
shot with the door open
599
00:27:45,450 --> 00:27:47,150
because the blood
splatter evidence
600
00:27:47,183 --> 00:27:50,003
was on the outside
of the door.
601
00:27:50,033 --> 00:27:53,033
The bullet enters beneath
her right shoulder blade
602
00:27:53,066 --> 00:27:54,396
and comes out
through the front.
603
00:27:54,433 --> 00:27:56,253
♪♪
604
00:27:56,283 --> 00:27:59,323
After Selena gets shot,
she runs to the hotel lobby,
605
00:27:59,350 --> 00:28:02,420
which was not that close
to the room.
606
00:28:02,450 --> 00:28:06,270
Skurka: She ran around the pool,
where she dropped her purse.
607
00:28:06,300 --> 00:28:08,020
She'd already dropped
her briefcase
608
00:28:08,050 --> 00:28:09,470
and her phone
in the grassy area.
609
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:13,130
She is bleeding profusely,
leaving a trail of blood.
610
00:28:13,166 --> 00:28:21,296
♪♪
611
00:28:21,333 --> 00:28:24,033
I was standing in the lobby
with Ruben DeLeon.
612
00:28:24,066 --> 00:28:26,146
Look towards the right,
there was a window.
613
00:28:26,183 --> 00:28:31,053
I see a lady running towards
one of the doors.
614
00:28:31,083 --> 00:28:33,303
I had no idea who she was.
615
00:28:33,333 --> 00:28:35,203
I had no idea.
616
00:28:37,083 --> 00:28:40,023
Schultz: Selena came through
the front door quickly,
617
00:28:40,050 --> 00:28:44,120
clutching her stomach,
and there was a lot of blood
618
00:28:44,150 --> 00:28:46,030
pooling in the sweatshirt,
619
00:28:46,066 --> 00:28:49,026
and she sort of stumbled
and said, "Help me.
620
00:28:49,066 --> 00:28:51,016
Help me.
I've been shot."
621
00:28:51,050 --> 00:28:52,370
DeLeon: We meet right
in the middle of the lobby
622
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:56,070
and kind of made contact there
and then moved her.
623
00:28:56,100 --> 00:29:00,080
I guess we were trying to hide
her, keep her safe
624
00:29:00,116 --> 00:29:01,316
because we just
figured somebody
625
00:29:01,350 --> 00:29:03,080
was running behind her
with a gun.
626
00:29:03,116 --> 00:29:07,346
Immediately, I went into
my office and called 911.
627
00:29:22,033 --> 00:29:24,073
We were asking for towels
628
00:29:24,100 --> 00:29:27,080
and just compressing
on her wound.
629
00:29:27,116 --> 00:29:30,096
We start asking her,
"Who? Who shot you?"
630
00:29:30,133 --> 00:29:32,253
And she mentioned
Yolanda's name,
631
00:29:32,283 --> 00:29:35,003
and she also mentioned
the room number.
632
00:29:41,450 --> 00:29:44,030
The desk clerk looked up
at the registration cards
633
00:29:44,066 --> 00:29:48,126
and saw that room 158 had been
rented by Yolanda Saldivar.
634
00:29:58,100 --> 00:30:01,080
And she's responding
as best as she could
635
00:30:01,116 --> 00:30:03,276
and then started
fading and fading,
636
00:30:03,316 --> 00:30:05,166
and we were just telling her
to hang in there,
637
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,280
that help was on its way.
[ Sirens wailing ]
638
00:30:07,316 --> 00:30:11,096
And the ambulance was there
in 2, 3 minutes.
639
00:30:11,133 --> 00:30:13,073
They were extremely quick.
640
00:30:13,100 --> 00:30:16,130
By the time they got there,
she was unconscious.
641
00:30:16,166 --> 00:30:20,016
And then they wheeled her out.
642
00:30:20,050 --> 00:30:23,070
[ Sirens wailing ]
643
00:30:23,100 --> 00:30:24,330
Patoski: Selena's rushed
to the hospital
644
00:30:24,366 --> 00:30:26,096
with the hope
that they can save her,
645
00:30:26,133 --> 00:30:28,133
and the hospital
is not that far away.
646
00:30:28,166 --> 00:30:31,366
During the ambulance ride,
there's an ominous moment
647
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:35,250
when the EMT gets her arm
to put the IV in it.
648
00:30:35,283 --> 00:30:39,273
Her fist opens up,
and the ring falls out.
649
00:30:39,300 --> 00:30:42,080
It's the ring
that Yolanda gave her.
650
00:30:42,116 --> 00:30:46,466
I'm just assuming that the day
that Selena was going to fire
651
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:48,280
her there at the hotel,
652
00:30:48,316 --> 00:30:51,196
that I believe that she might
have taken the ring out
653
00:30:51,233 --> 00:30:52,453
and was going to
give it back to her.
654
00:30:52,483 --> 00:30:57,223
So by taking it off of her hand
and giving it back to Yolanda,
655
00:30:57,250 --> 00:30:59,470
that was symbolic
that their relationship
656
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:01,250
had completely ruptured.
657
00:31:01,283 --> 00:31:04,283
Selena was giving it
back to Yolanda
658
00:31:04,316 --> 00:31:08,016
when Yolanda fired the gun
that killed Selena.
659
00:31:08,050 --> 00:31:10,080
♪♪
660
00:31:10,116 --> 00:31:12,216
Skurka: I don't think Selena
had a wicked
661
00:31:12,250 --> 00:31:14,050
or evil bone in her body.
662
00:31:14,083 --> 00:31:16,433
She couldn't believe
anybody would try to harm her.
663
00:31:16,466 --> 00:31:18,996
It's got to be the ultimate
betrayal
664
00:31:19,033 --> 00:31:22,053
to have your friend
not stab you in the back,
665
00:31:22,083 --> 00:31:24,133
but shoot you in the back.
666
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,350
We are standing by live
in Corpus Christi.
667
00:31:28,383 --> 00:31:30,103
[ Yolanda speaks
indistinctly ]
668
00:31:30,133 --> 00:31:32,123
Man: No, no, you're not
going to do that, Yolanda.
669
00:31:32,150 --> 00:31:34,420
♪♪
670
00:31:38,233 --> 00:31:40,073
I'm really enjoying everything
that's going on around me.
671
00:31:40,100 --> 00:31:42,430
It's kind of hard to handpick
which is the best thing
672
00:31:42,466 --> 00:31:45,146
because there's
a lot of good things.
673
00:31:45,183 --> 00:31:52,103
♪♪
674
00:31:52,133 --> 00:31:54,203
Sterling:
There were some witnesses
who worked at the hotel
675
00:31:54,233 --> 00:31:56,353
who heard the gunshot,
676
00:31:56,383 --> 00:32:00,053
and they saw Selena
running from the room,
677
00:32:00,083 --> 00:32:05,273
and they saw Yolanda come out
after her holding a gun.
678
00:32:05,300 --> 00:32:07,450
Reynoso: Yolanda Saldivar
went back into room,
679
00:32:07,483 --> 00:32:12,203
wraps the gun in a towel
and goes into her truck.
680
00:32:12,233 --> 00:32:15,103
Young:
And she drives out to leave,
681
00:32:15,133 --> 00:32:19,003
and then she gets blocked in
by police cars arriving,
682
00:32:19,033 --> 00:32:20,483
and then she puts
the gun to her head.
683
00:32:21,016 --> 00:32:25,046
Where she locks herself
in a standoff with police.
684
00:32:25,083 --> 00:32:28,333
Skurka:
They call in hostage negotiators
to try to talk her down
685
00:32:28,366 --> 00:32:31,146
and talk her out
into giving herself up.
686
00:32:31,183 --> 00:32:33,383
We are standing by live
in Corpus Christi
687
00:32:33,416 --> 00:32:35,996
right across the street
from the Days Inn.
688
00:32:36,033 --> 00:32:37,373
The assistant police chief
tells us
689
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:41,030
that they have provided
the suspect with a telephone
690
00:32:41,066 --> 00:32:43,076
and have been in constant
contact with her
691
00:32:43,116 --> 00:32:45,176
trying to get her
to give herself up.
692
00:32:45,216 --> 00:32:50,076
When we finally started talking,
Yolanda was asking about Selena.
693
00:32:50,116 --> 00:32:52,146
"Where is she?
How is she?"
694
00:32:52,183 --> 00:32:54,073
I told her that she was
at the hospital
695
00:32:54,100 --> 00:32:57,180
and that they're
working on her.
696
00:32:57,216 --> 00:33:00,266
Her emotional state
was extremely fragile.
697
00:33:06,066 --> 00:33:09,266
I want to kill myself,
Larry!
698
00:33:09,300 --> 00:33:11,430
She keeps insisting
she's done something real,
699
00:33:11,466 --> 00:33:13,316
real bad to her friend.
700
00:33:24,250 --> 00:33:26,170
Woman: We have hundreds
and hundreds of people,
701
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:27,380
fans of Selena Quintanilla,
702
00:33:27,416 --> 00:33:30,416
coming by, waiting to see
how this is going to turn out.
703
00:33:30,450 --> 00:33:32,220
The assistant police chief
tells us
704
00:33:32,250 --> 00:33:33,420
that they are
going to wait it out.
705
00:33:33,450 --> 00:33:35,400
All they want is to
get her out safe,
706
00:33:35,433 --> 00:33:38,183
and they don't want her
to hurt herself or anybody else.
707
00:33:38,216 --> 00:33:41,366
She basically holds
the police at bay for hours.
708
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:44,430
Man: Negotiators talk to her
continuously and never give up.
709
00:33:46,233 --> 00:33:48,403
[ Yolanda sobs ]
710
00:33:48,433 --> 00:33:51,153
Young: At one point during
the negotiations,
711
00:33:51,183 --> 00:33:53,423
we decided that there needed
to be a switch,
712
00:33:53,450 --> 00:33:57,070
and so we introduced
Isaac Valencia,
713
00:33:57,100 --> 00:33:59,030
another negotiator.
714
00:34:06,233 --> 00:34:08,103
He talks about religion.
715
00:34:08,133 --> 00:34:10,303
His job is to come up
with any reason possible
716
00:34:10,333 --> 00:34:12,153
to get her out of that truck.
717
00:34:16,483 --> 00:34:19,303
Valencia: That everything
will be okay in the eyes
718
00:34:19,333 --> 00:34:22,223
of Jesus Christ
and the Holy Spirit.
719
00:34:22,250 --> 00:34:25,020
Skurka: And about halfway
through the negotiations,
720
00:34:25,050 --> 00:34:27,200
one of the officers
mentioned something like,
721
00:34:27,233 --> 00:34:29,353
"Well, you know, anything
can happen with guns.
722
00:34:29,383 --> 00:34:33,253
Guns -- it may go off,"
and she seized upon this.
723
00:34:36,116 --> 00:34:37,296
Valencia: What?
724
00:34:37,333 --> 00:34:41,003
I was yelling to her, "Please,
I'm going to kill myself."
725
00:34:41,033 --> 00:34:43,173
We could only assume
what happened,
726
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:45,030
and Yolanda's version
727
00:34:45,066 --> 00:34:49,446
is that she took the gun
to commit suicide
728
00:34:49,483 --> 00:34:51,333
and that she pointed
the gun to her head
729
00:34:51,366 --> 00:34:54,216
and that she told Selena
to close the door.
730
00:34:54,250 --> 00:34:57,020
She accidentally shot the gun.
[ Gunshot ]
731
00:35:02,116 --> 00:35:04,016
The barrel was back?
732
00:35:07,316 --> 00:35:11,416
She said it was an accident, but
we know that that's not true.
733
00:35:11,450 --> 00:35:13,470
You have to have a certain
amount of pounds
734
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:15,400
of pressure
to pull a trigger.
735
00:35:15,433 --> 00:35:16,403
[ Gunshot ]
736
00:35:16,433 --> 00:35:19,253
Guns just don't go off.
737
00:35:19,283 --> 00:35:22,173
Valdez: And the natural reaction
for somebody
738
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,180
who's been involved
in an accidental shooting
739
00:35:24,216 --> 00:35:27,276
is to drop the gun
immediately, start screaming,
740
00:35:27,316 --> 00:35:29,246
and try to help
the person who's hurt.
741
00:35:29,283 --> 00:35:31,033
Villarreal:
She's a registered nurse.
742
00:35:31,066 --> 00:35:34,066
If this was an accident,
why didn't she call 911?
743
00:35:34,100 --> 00:35:35,400
Never did it, never did it.
744
00:35:35,433 --> 00:35:37,203
Skurka: Nope, she didn't do
any of that stuff.
745
00:35:37,233 --> 00:35:40,073
In fact, she went back
in her room,
746
00:35:40,100 --> 00:35:42,000
covered the gun up,
and then went
747
00:35:42,033 --> 00:35:44,253
and got back
in her truck to escape.
748
00:35:44,283 --> 00:35:46,253
This wasn't an accident.
749
00:35:46,283 --> 00:35:48,253
It was an intentional
act of murder.
750
00:35:48,283 --> 00:35:50,353
Guns don't go off by themselves.
751
00:35:50,383 --> 00:35:53,023
Somebody has to
pull the trigger,
752
00:35:53,050 --> 00:35:55,120
and that's exactly
what Yolanda did.
753
00:35:55,150 --> 00:35:58,330
♪♪
754
00:35:58,366 --> 00:36:00,196
Valdez: I think there were
several things that combined
755
00:36:00,233 --> 00:36:04,233
in that room,
in room 158 on that day.
756
00:36:04,266 --> 00:36:06,426
Yolanda loved her life
with Selena.
757
00:36:06,466 --> 00:36:08,116
Patoski: Her life was over.
758
00:36:08,150 --> 00:36:10,420
She wasn't Selena's fan club
president anymore.
759
00:36:10,450 --> 00:36:12,150
She wasn't running
the boutique.
760
00:36:12,183 --> 00:36:14,073
She wasn't Selena's
business partner
761
00:36:14,100 --> 00:36:17,270
or running buddy
or best friend.
762
00:36:17,300 --> 00:36:19,270
All that was over.
763
00:36:19,300 --> 00:36:22,230
She was back to being
Yolanda Saldivar,
764
00:36:22,266 --> 00:36:26,116
and in the most selfish
act imaginable,
765
00:36:26,150 --> 00:36:28,270
"If I can't have you,
no one can," bang.
766
00:36:28,300 --> 00:36:30,380
♪♪
767
00:36:30,416 --> 00:36:33,176
Finally, after 9 1/2 hours,
768
00:36:33,216 --> 00:36:36,276
they convince her
to come out of that truck.
769
00:36:43,216 --> 00:36:44,246
Woman: Oh, they got her!
770
00:36:44,283 --> 00:36:46,253
-Woman 2: They got her?
-Get her!
771
00:36:46,283 --> 00:36:47,453
-Whoa!
[ Clapping ]
772
00:36:47,483 --> 00:36:49,383
Valdez: At 9:30 at night,
she was talked out of her truck,
773
00:36:49,416 --> 00:36:53,146
and she finally
was placed under arrest.
774
00:36:53,183 --> 00:36:56,473
And she's going, "Oh, Larry,
oh, Larry, I'm so sorry.
775
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,430
I'm so sorry.
How is she?"
776
00:37:02,133 --> 00:37:04,223
Sterling: The place where
the bullet went through Selena
777
00:37:04,250 --> 00:37:07,170
severed a major artery
in her body.
778
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:10,380
If it had been an inch or 2
in another direction,
779
00:37:10,416 --> 00:37:13,396
she probably wouldn't
have been killed.
780
00:37:13,433 --> 00:37:16,233
All efforts to resuscitate
her were futile.
781
00:37:16,266 --> 00:37:19,396
She was declared dead
early afternoon.
782
00:37:19,433 --> 00:37:24,423
♪♪
783
00:37:24,450 --> 00:37:29,400
It was just so unreal
and bizarre and sad and tragic,
784
00:37:29,433 --> 00:37:35,373
how somebody so good could have
such a horrible ending.
785
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:39,120
It was very devastating
786
00:37:39,150 --> 00:37:42,030
for someone very young
787
00:37:42,066 --> 00:37:46,446
to have all these dreams
just wiped away.
788
00:37:46,483 --> 00:37:48,303
I mean...
789
00:37:52,083 --> 00:37:55,153
...it was hard to live with
for a long time.
790
00:37:55,183 --> 00:37:58,423
Abraham: When one of your
children is killed this way,
791
00:37:58,450 --> 00:38:00,220
it's like somebody
grabbed a knife
792
00:38:00,250 --> 00:38:02,150
and stuck it right
in your heart,
793
00:38:02,183 --> 00:38:06,003
and the wound will always be
there for the rest of your life.
794
00:38:06,033 --> 00:38:10,473
Cortina-Weiss: So when Selena
dies, her family, her label,
795
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:12,120
the people she worked with,
796
00:38:12,150 --> 00:38:15,000
are left with this
impossible decision
797
00:38:15,033 --> 00:38:18,233
of what to do with
the music she left behind.
798
00:38:18,266 --> 00:38:21,246
She had already recorded
four tracks
799
00:38:21,283 --> 00:38:23,173
for her English-language album.
800
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:28,170
This was Selena's dream,
to cross over into mainstream.
801
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:34,320
We had been working towards
this goal for the last 2 years,
802
00:38:34,350 --> 00:38:39,180
and I want to make sure
that her dream comes true.
803
00:38:39,216 --> 00:38:41,276
And so they decided
to release it,
804
00:38:41,316 --> 00:38:44,216
and "Dreaming of You"
became an instant hit.
805
00:38:44,250 --> 00:38:47,370
♪ 'Cause I'm dreaming ♪
806
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:49,420
♪ Of you tonight ♪
807
00:38:49,450 --> 00:38:53,130
♪ Till tomorrow ♪
808
00:38:53,166 --> 00:38:56,066
♪ I'll be holding you tight ♪
809
00:38:56,100 --> 00:39:00,020
Patoski: The album comes out,
goes double platinum,
810
00:39:00,050 --> 00:39:02,250
goes straight to the top
of the pop charts.
811
00:39:02,283 --> 00:39:06,403
Cortina-Weiss:
This is what she worked really,
really hard for her whole life,
812
00:39:06,433 --> 00:39:10,383
and it's just sad and tragic
that she wasn't able to see it.
813
00:39:12,100 --> 00:39:14,070
♪♪
814
00:39:14,100 --> 00:39:17,000
Yolanda is charged
with first-degree murder.
815
00:39:17,033 --> 00:39:21,283
The district attorney's office
filed a formal complaint
816
00:39:21,316 --> 00:39:25,126
accusing Yolanda Saldivar
of the murder
817
00:39:25,166 --> 00:39:28,276
of Selena Quintanilla-Pérez.
818
00:39:28,316 --> 00:39:33,176
We tried the case in Houston,
and she was found guilty
819
00:39:33,216 --> 00:39:35,176
and sentenced
to life in prison.
820
00:39:35,216 --> 00:39:37,426
Man: The jury, having found
the defendant guilty of murder,
821
00:39:37,466 --> 00:39:39,396
assess her punishment
and confinement
822
00:39:39,433 --> 00:39:41,183
in the institutional division
823
00:39:41,216 --> 00:39:43,996
of the Texas Department
of Criminal Justice for life.
824
00:39:44,033 --> 00:39:45,253
[ Crowd shouting ]
825
00:39:45,283 --> 00:39:48,173
♪♪
826
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:53,070
But it was, you know, a hollow
win because Selena's gone.
827
00:39:53,100 --> 00:39:58,230
She's not coming back,
and while justice was served,
828
00:39:58,266 --> 00:40:00,166
it was still this idea,
829
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:03,000
"Why did this have to
even happen?"
830
00:40:03,033 --> 00:40:05,233
Abraham: Yolanda could have
just walked away
831
00:40:05,266 --> 00:40:07,296
and found herself another job.
832
00:40:07,333 --> 00:40:09,233
To this day, for the life of me,
833
00:40:09,266 --> 00:40:11,426
I just can't figure out
why she done this.
834
00:40:11,466 --> 00:40:21,066
♪♪
835
00:40:21,100 --> 00:40:23,050
Cortina-Weiss:
I think Selena is remembered
836
00:40:23,083 --> 00:40:26,403
as much as a person
as she is as a performer.
837
00:40:26,433 --> 00:40:30,303
She was this kind soul that,
for all intents and purposes,
838
00:40:30,333 --> 00:40:35,083
didn't kind of understand
the enormity of fame
839
00:40:35,116 --> 00:40:37,346
that she had acquired
in a short period of time.
840
00:40:39,433 --> 00:40:43,423
To me, in my mind,
I see her every day.
841
00:40:43,450 --> 00:40:45,280
I hear her music.
842
00:40:45,316 --> 00:40:48,076
To me, she's still alive.
843
00:40:48,116 --> 00:40:50,326
I mean, she really was special.
844
00:40:50,366 --> 00:40:53,426
She would never tell you that,
or she never felt like she was,
845
00:40:53,466 --> 00:40:55,196
but she really was.
846
00:40:55,233 --> 00:40:59,303
Cortina-Weiss:
She had so gracefully
847
00:40:59,333 --> 00:41:01,273
and so successfully
848
00:41:01,300 --> 00:41:06,230
embraced her roots,
her culture, and her heritage.
849
00:41:06,266 --> 00:41:08,096
And in that way,
850
00:41:08,133 --> 00:41:11,383
she still continues
to inspire new generations.
851
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:14,470
Selena: You know, you hope
for something.
852
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:16,220
You wish for things to happen,
you know,
853
00:41:16,250 --> 00:41:18,400
when you're not doing as well,
and when it comes around,
854
00:41:18,433 --> 00:41:20,053
it's like, "oh," you know,
you want to slow down,
855
00:41:20,083 --> 00:41:22,133
but you have to stop
and think where you came from,
856
00:41:22,166 --> 00:41:24,376
and you appreciate it
even more.
857
00:41:24,416 --> 00:41:29,276
♪♪
858
00:41:29,316 --> 00:41:32,366
Yolanda Saldivar declined
our request for an interview.
859
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:36,120
She is still in prison
and up for parole in 2025.
860
00:41:36,150 --> 00:41:37,400
Selena was buried
in her hometown
861
00:41:37,433 --> 00:41:39,423
of Corpus Christi, Texas.
862
00:41:39,450 --> 00:41:41,270
Two years after her death,
863
00:41:41,300 --> 00:41:44,030
a movie starring
Jennifer Lopez was released
864
00:41:44,066 --> 00:41:47,096
telling the true story
of Selena's incredible life.
865
00:41:47,133 --> 00:41:51,353
It solidified her legacy
and inspired future generations.
866
00:41:51,383 --> 00:41:53,403
Selena once said
that when she died,
867
00:41:53,433 --> 00:41:56,203
she wanted to be remembered
not only as an entertainer
868
00:41:56,233 --> 00:41:59,283
but as a role model
and someone who cared,
869
00:41:59,316 --> 00:42:01,096
and she is.
870
00:42:01,133 --> 00:42:03,323
Thanks for watching.
Good night.
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