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♪♪
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Being in prison,
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going through a kind of hell,
matures a person,
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and I think
it's done good things for me.
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My only misgiving is that
I might never be
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in a position to apply it,
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you know, on the streets
where I'd like to apply it.
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♪♪
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♪♪
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Welcome to
"How it Really Happened."
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I'm Hill Harper.
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In the early 1970s,
terror gripped the United States
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when young women
began disappearing.
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They were later found murdered,
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brutally beaten,
and sexually assaulted.
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The main suspect in the crime
seemed an unlikely one --
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a handsome, charming law student
named Ted Bundy.
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When he was taken into custody
on kidnapping charges,
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authorities and the public
breathed
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a collective sigh of relief.
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But this was not the end of
the Bundy story, not even close.
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Here's how it really happened.
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Reporter: From Washington State
to Oregon to Utah,
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police have discovered
a pattern of rape-murders.
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McChesney:
Women started going missing,
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their bodies found
much later time
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on deserted roads,
in the forest.
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Reporter: Lynda Ann Healy,
Denise Naslund, Janice Ann Ott,
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Georgann Hawkins
and 18-year-old Susan Rancourt.
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We were both sobbing,
and I said to my husband,
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"I'll never see her again."
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McChesney:
And we didn't have evidence.
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We didn't have clues.
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Lake Sammamish would
change everything.
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Meixner: This guy came up,
and he was kind of tall,
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very tanned, very good-looking,
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and he said, "Hi. I'm Ted."
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So that's the first time
we had a name.
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And they knew this person
drove a Volkswagen.
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Chino: The newspaper put
the composite out,
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and my friend -- she threw
the picture on the table
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and she said to me, "Who is --
who do you think that is?"
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I said,
"Well, it's Ted. Why?"
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And then she burst into tears
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because that looked a lot
like her boyfriend, Ted Bundy.
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Reporter: Theodore Robert Bundy
at age 25 --
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a Republican campaign worker
in Seattle;
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at 28 -- a University of Utah
law student.
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He didn't look like a murderer.
He was nice-looking.
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He was educated.
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If he was in this room
right now,
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you would feel very comfortable,
very comfortable with him.
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He just didn't present any type
of a threatening persona to you,
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and that was his strength.
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It was that deception.
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Reporter:
In a Salt Lake City trial,
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Bundy was convicted of trying
to kidnap Carol DaRonch
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from a shopping center
in Murray.
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She managed to escape
from his Volkswagen
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and testified against him
at the trial.
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All throughout this,
Ted was saying, "I'm innocent."
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I'm no fool.
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I don't like being locked up,
and I don't think any man does.
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It was in Utah
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where Bundy
was pulled out of the shadows.
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As each day went on,
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there was more information
that came in about Ted.
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Reporter: Eyewitness reports
fitted with Bundy's description.
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There was also physical evidence
in Bundy's car
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strong enough for Bundy
to become the prime suspect
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in the baffling series
of crimes.
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Because of the notoriety
he got nationally,
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all these various states started
connecting the dots together,
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and Bundy was there.
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Reporter: Investigators in Vail,
Grand Junction, and Aspen
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have open murder cases that they
believe Ted Bundy can solve.
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For instance, 26-year-old
Julie Cunningham,
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a Vail ski instructor,
disappeared in March of 1975.
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Police have a credit-card
receipt that tells them
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Ted Bundy bought gas
in that area on that same day.
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Denise Oliverson disappeared
from Grand Juction
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in April of 1975.
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Police can also prove
that Ted Bundy
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was in that area at that time.
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In 1976, Ted Bundy was
extradited from Utah to Colorado
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to face charges,
for the very first time,
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of first-degree murder.
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The victim was Caryn Campbell.
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She was a nurse on vacation with
her fiancé and his children.
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She was last seen getting onto
a crowded elevator in her hotel.
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And they know
that she got off on her floor,
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but she never made it
to her room.
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Theodore Bundy is in Colorado
tonight,
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where he will stand trial
for first-degree murder.
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It was thought Bundy
would fight extradition,
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but this morning he told
a Utah judge
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he was ready
to go to Colorado.
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Jordan:
Ted Bundy once again decided
to act in his own defense,
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and the freedom this gave him
played right into his plan.
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I get to go to the library.
[ Laughs ]
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It's a 50-yard walk from here
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across the parking lot
to the library.
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That's my fresh air.
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My class is graduating in about
a month from law school.
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I'll bet you I know more
about law than any of them.
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There was already a trial
going on there.
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Jordan: It was one of the first
celebrity trials of its kind.
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The French actress
Claudine Longet
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was charged with
shooting her boyfriend,
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the world-champion skier
Spider Sabich, to death,
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and the circus atmosphere
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provided a wonderful
distraction for Ted Bundy.
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He was looking for
avenues of escape.
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Do you ever feel like
you'd like to escape?
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[ Laughs ]
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I've dreamed about flying
over those fences.
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I've dreamed about climbing
over those fences
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and tunneling
under those fences.
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With every other man in there,
I've dreamed about being free.
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Sullivan: Because he was acting
as his own attorney,
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he was given access
to the library,
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which is on the second floor.
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They used to
keep that window open,
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nice, fresh air coming in.
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Guards started trusting him.
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Even after he was associated
with all these crimes,
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and even after he'd been
convicted in the DaRonch case,
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charm was
his first default mode.
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Jordan: Ted Bundy petitioned
and won a motion
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that he wanted to be
unshackled in court.
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So in June 7th, 1977,
Ted Bundy went to court
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and was allowed to be unshackled
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and go to the law library
during a recess.
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It was there that he escaped.
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A woman walked into
the courthouse, and she said,
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"is it common for people
to jump out
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the second-floor window
of the courthouse?"
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He was charismatic,
and they trusted him.
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They let him go in the library,
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and he jumped out
of the building.
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Reporter:
Bundy was alone inside
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when he decided
to open that window
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and jump the 25 feet
to the ground.
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In fact, you can still see
the indentations
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in the grass here
where he landed.
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Took off and got into
the wilds of Colorado.
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We covered the escape
after the fact.
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Packer:
Roadblocks were set up within
15 minutes of Bundy's escape,
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and 150 men and 5 bloodhounds
combed the canyons around Aspen.
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So far, these roadblocks have
turned up no sign of Ted Bundy.
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They didn't take security
all that seriously,
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and Bundy was, by all accounts,
really smart, very clever.
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He wandered around,
lost a lot of weight,
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was confused,
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ended up coming back into Aspen
and stole a car.
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A couple patrol officers saw
what they thought
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was a drunk driver.
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And they discovered two things.
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One -- the person is not drunk.
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And two --
Ted Bundy was back in Aspen.
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So he was rearrested that night.
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Reporter:
Streets of Aspen are safe again.
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Suspected multiple murderer
Theodore Bundy
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is back in custody after
an absence of nearly seven days.
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There was a note --
"You got to call
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from Ted Bundy in Colorado."
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He says, "I just wanted to know
what you thought of my escape."
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Jordan:
After he was caught,
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authorities were a lot
more careful with Ted,
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but they still allowed him
a lot more freedom
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than the other prisoners got.
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And this would include
having a newspaper photographer
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come into his cell
to take photographs of him.
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Gay:
It was me and Ted Bundy.
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I was secure, and they were
gonna be careful with Ted.
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I feel I captured who Ted was
at that time.
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You see his deep, contemplative,
and inner thinking
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that he was going through.
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He wasn't comfortable
with himself or his life.
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The photographs were
introspective, but soon,
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Ted Bundy would be
on the outside.
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What the authorities
didn't realize
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is that he was
planning another escape.
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He was in shackles, and they
didn't keep him in shackles
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when he was put back
in his cell.
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There was a light fixture
that was not that large,
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but large enough,
and it was due to be welded,
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but it hadn't been.
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Bundy lost some weight.
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The prisoners were coming
to the authorities, saying,
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"Listen, Bundy is getting up
in the ceiling
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and, like, crawling
in the above-rafter area.
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We hear him crawling
back and forth at night
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and going back into his cell."
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They didn't do anything
about it.
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That is just astounding stuff.
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He did everything he could
to avoid detection.
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He takes his books and stuff
and he forms what is,
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like, a body, covers it.
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He had already said
he didn't feel well,
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so they let him sleep.
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He gets up in the rafters and
down into a jailer's apartment.
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The jailer had gone out
for a movie.
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Gets some of his clothes,
puts them on,
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goes out into the night
and freedom once again.
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Bundy, who had been awaiting
trial near Aspen, Colorado,
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escaped from a Colorado jail
on December 31, 1977.
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Jordan:
Ted Bundy was gone,
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and the authorities
did not know where he went.
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So the FBI started tracking down
every possible lead.
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And soon, they would be
knocking on the door
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of the very photographer
who had spent three hours
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together with Ted in prison.
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Gay: After Ted escaped,
they just came to say,
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"Don't leave town,"
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just in case
I had something to do with it.
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Was I able to slip something in
to Ted and help him escape?
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♪♪
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Theodore Bundy is now one
of the FBI's most-wanted men.
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I woke up to being attacked.
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Reporter: It was early in the
morning of January 15th, 1978,
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that a killer walked into this
Chi Omega sorority house
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at Florida State University
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and strangled
two young coeds to death,
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beat two others with a club,
and then struck again.
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The next thing I remember,
I was in the hospital.
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A federal warrant was issued
on January 5, 1978,
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at Denver, Colorado,
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charging Bundy
with unlawful flight
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to avoid prosecution
for the crime of murder.
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McChesney: When Ted escaped,
we did not believe
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he would come back
to Washington
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because he was too well-known
in Washington State.
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He would want to get to
the furthest place
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away from Washington State
as he could get.
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[ Helicopter blades whirring ]
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[ Alarm beeping ]
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Vasilinda:
My clock radio went off
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early that Super Bowl Sunday
morning.
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It was a national newscast
saying four sorority girls
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had been attacked
at Florida State.
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Reporter:
The killer walked into this
Chi Omega sorority house.
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I got a call from the sheriff,
who was Ken Katsaris.
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He wanted me to meet him at
the Chi Omega sorority house.
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We have possibly
three or four deaths.
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We were all shocked
at what occurred.
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McCain:
It was a Saturday night,
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and we'd all just returned
from Christmas break.
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It was, for all intents
and purposes,
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a time to get reacquainted after
being gone for several weeks.
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I had gone around 6:00
to a social
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at our little community church.
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Left about 10:00
and went back to Chi O,
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went to my room,
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did some reading,
just kind of relaxed,
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and then went to bed
probably about 11:30 or 12:00.
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Chandler: My daddy called and
told me that my mother was sick.
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She had the flu, and I would
come over and cook dinner?
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And my dad wanted me
to spend the night,
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but I had a project
due on Monday,
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so I went back
to the sorority house.
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I had dance rehearsal that day.
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That evening, I had a date,
a first-time date,
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and then I went home
and I went to bed,
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and that's the evening
that it happened.
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Reporter: During the predawn
hours of January 15th,
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the killer walked through
an unlocked door
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at the Chi Omega sorority house
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and brutally beat
four FSU coeds as they slept.
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Territo: We believe he had
entered through an unlocked door
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on the first floor of
the Chi Omega sorority house.
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Reporter: Two of the girls,
20-year-old Lisa Levy
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and 21-year-old Margaret Bowman,
died from their injuries.
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Territo:
He had gone up the back stairs,
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and the first room
he would have encountered
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would have been the room
occupied by Margaret Bowman.
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He entered that room,
struck her,
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rendered her unconscious,
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and then he strangled her
with a pair of pantyhose.
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He exited her room,
would have turned to the right,
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walked down the hallway
maybe five or six feet.
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That would have been the room
of Lisa Levy.
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Strikes her,
renders her unconscious,
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and then he strangles her
manually.
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Left her room,
turned to his right,
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then to his left,
and walked into the room
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occupied by two more coeds.
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Kleiner Rubin:
He attacked Margaret and Lisa
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and then came into our room,
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and I don't think he was
expecting two of us in the room.
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I woke up to being attacked.
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I was numb and being hit.
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When the light shone in,
I remember seeing a shadow,
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and I saw him attacking Karen,
my roommate.
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Struck her across the face.
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He then left
the Chi Omega sorority house,
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walking downstairs,
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and he disappeared
into the night.
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The young women who had
been assaulted
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starting screaming, of course,
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and that's the beginning
of the story
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where police were called.
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The ambulance was called.
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McCain: I immediately went
to Lisa's room.
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She was not conscious, but she
was still very much alive.
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An EMT came right behind me
and grabbed me by the shoulders
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and pulled me away so that they
could do what they needed to do.
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I did not see Karen until
the ambulance drivers
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were taking her out.
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Chandler: I just remember
little flashes of things --
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being put into the ambulance
and just asking how Kathy was.
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Reporter: Karen Chandler
and Kathy Kleiner
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remember being taken to
the hospital in severe shock.
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Kleiner Rubin:
I remember the cold
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and going into the ambulance,
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and it's, like,
something I won't forget.
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McCain: Yeah. A police officer
wanted me to escort him
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to various rooms in the house
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to see if an intruder
was still in the house.
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But the killer wasn't done.
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Katsaris: While all these police
officers are all over this area,
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we got a report of loud noises
4 1/2, 5 blocks away.
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I sent an investigator and found
that we had another victim
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who had been brutally beaten.
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Reporter: A short time later,
the killer struck again,
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where he severely injured
Cheryl Ann Thomas.
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Thomas:
I had a very severe head injury.
331
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I was unconscious
or semiconscious.
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I had two neighbors.
333
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They heard pounding
kind of sound,
334
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and they heard moaning,
and it frightened them so much
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that they decided
to call the police.
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Katsaris: I knew this person
had to be caught.
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We had someone who was
more than dangerous.
338
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We've got a person on a rage.
339
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Everyone's very nervous,
just on pins and needles.
340
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She saw the man
walking down the stairway.
341
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There was blood everywhere.
342
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Man: They were calling him
a raging animal.
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[ Siren wails ]
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Chandler: I woke up, and I knew
I was in a hospital.
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My family was there,
347
00:17:10,083 --> 00:17:12,173
and there was kind of a lull
in the conversation,
348
00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:14,370
and I said, "Well, why don't
we turn on the TV?"
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And my father said,
"Well, before we do,
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there's something
I need to tell you."
351
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And that's how I learned
what had happened.
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Reporter: Two Florida State
sorority sisters
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were strangled to death
and three others brutally beaten
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with a club the morning
of January 15th, 1978.
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Someone had come into the Chi O
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and attacked
two of my sorority sisters,
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attacked me and Karen,
and then left the sorority.
358
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Reporter: The women
who were murdered were
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21-year-old Margaret Bowman
and 20-year-old Lisa Levy.
360
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My family has lived
with horror, sorrow, and pain.
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It's an emotional pain
so deep it becomes physical.
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McCain: Margaret was perhaps
our most stylish sister --
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vivacious,
had a lot of personality.
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Lisa was just a ball of fire,
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just a lot of fun,
a lot of energy,
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and I just loved her instantly.
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They were outstanding women,
368
00:18:07,050 --> 00:18:10,370
outstanding young women with
a huge life in front of them.
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Police were baffled, calling it
the work of a deranged murderer.
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They were calling him
a raging animal
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because of the way
he'd gone down
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around the corner and attacked
another woman in a duplex.
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Thomas: He had pushed a chair
under my front door,
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so they had to kick it in
to be able to go in,
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and then that's where
they found me in my bedroom.
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I couldn't imagine why it had
happened or who had done it.
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Reporter:
None of the three surviving
girls remember their attacker,
378
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and no one has been charged
with the murders.
379
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Everyone was very nervous.
380
00:18:42,250 --> 00:18:45,080
There was a run on
every hardware store in town.
381
00:18:45,116 --> 00:18:46,366
People were buying
dead bolts.
382
00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:48,250
They were buying chains.
383
00:18:48,283 --> 00:18:50,383
Nobody knew what had happened,
who had done it.
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Many of us were not allowed
to attend the funeral,
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thinking that the assailant
might be in the services.
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There was a haunting scene
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00:18:58,050 --> 00:19:01,270
that I remember vividly
of a young woman looking out,
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00:19:01,300 --> 00:19:04,050
looking distraught
at the Chi O house,
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with the curtains
kind of drawn around her.
390
00:19:06,366 --> 00:19:10,016
It was just sad -- a real,
you know, real tragedy.
391
00:19:12,450 --> 00:19:16,000
It's been four days
since the FSU murders occurred.
392
00:19:16,033 --> 00:19:17,303
Well over 200 calls a day
393
00:19:17,333 --> 00:19:21,073
are coming into the coed murder
command center set up by police,
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00:19:21,100 --> 00:19:23,370
but so far they have
no definite leads.
395
00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:26,070
Law enforcement
was working in the dark.
396
00:19:26,100 --> 00:19:28,430
They were conducting
neighborhood-by-neighborhood
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00:19:28,466 --> 00:19:31,246
canvassing,
trying to locate suspects.
398
00:19:31,283 --> 00:19:34,253
They were also asking
the public to call in
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if they saw
any suspicious persons.
400
00:19:36,416 --> 00:19:39,176
Thomas: I was being questioned
by the police,
401
00:19:39,216 --> 00:19:41,376
"Do you know anybody
that would ever want
402
00:19:41,416 --> 00:19:43,316
to hurt you in that way?"
403
00:19:43,350 --> 00:19:47,230
They came and tried
to hypnotize me.
404
00:19:47,266 --> 00:19:50,116
Kleiner Rubin: Where I was,
what I did, did I see anybody?
405
00:19:50,150 --> 00:19:51,320
Did I see anyone outside?
406
00:19:51,350 --> 00:19:54,320
Did I see any cars outside
that I remembered?
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00:19:54,350 --> 00:19:57,250
Thomas: They were hoping
I would remember something,
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00:19:57,283 --> 00:20:00,003
and they were trying
anything they could.
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00:20:00,033 --> 00:20:02,283
Reporter:
The reward is now up to $10,000,
410
00:20:02,316 --> 00:20:04,176
and the mood, both on campus
411
00:20:04,216 --> 00:20:06,166
and here in this
usually peaceful city,
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00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:08,280
is still one of apprehension.
413
00:20:08,316 --> 00:20:09,446
We weren't allowed back
in the house
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00:20:09,483 --> 00:20:11,403
for the first week or so,
and they were
415
00:20:11,433 --> 00:20:14,483
collecting evidence
and fingerprint material.
416
00:20:15,016 --> 00:20:17,266
[ Sighs ]
After I left the hospital,
417
00:20:17,300 --> 00:20:21,030
I had to go back to my room
at the sorority house.
418
00:20:21,066 --> 00:20:22,326
There was blood everywhere.
419
00:20:22,366 --> 00:20:24,076
Chandler: And they wanted me
to look in the room
420
00:20:24,116 --> 00:20:25,446
and see if I was
missing anything.
421
00:20:25,483 --> 00:20:29,383
Sometimes mass murderers
will take a souvenir.
422
00:20:29,416 --> 00:20:32,446
So I guess they were hoping,
if they caught the person,
423
00:20:32,483 --> 00:20:34,333
that they would find
some of those
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00:20:34,366 --> 00:20:36,346
that they might be able
to identify.
425
00:20:36,383 --> 00:20:38,373
Florida Department
of Criminal Law Enforcement
426
00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:40,300
Crime Lab experts are still busy
427
00:20:40,333 --> 00:20:42,333
sifting through
and analyzing evidence
428
00:20:42,366 --> 00:20:44,426
that was collected
from the Chi Omega house.
429
00:20:44,466 --> 00:20:48,276
You're looking for any evidence,
any debris that is found,
430
00:20:48,316 --> 00:20:50,316
or you're looking for
the kind of murder weapon
431
00:20:50,350 --> 00:20:52,270
that may have been involved.
432
00:20:52,300 --> 00:20:54,320
We wanted to know
what kind of weapon was used.
433
00:20:54,350 --> 00:20:56,470
We found bark.
434
00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:59,270
Anderson: Looked like sawdust
taken from the scalp
435
00:20:59,300 --> 00:21:03,120
of one of the young ladies
that had been killed --
436
00:21:03,150 --> 00:21:07,250
probably firewood
within the Chi Omega house
437
00:21:07,283 --> 00:21:09,223
to use as a bludgeon.
438
00:21:09,250 --> 00:21:11,470
The speculation -- well,
it really wasn't speculation --
439
00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:13,300
that he probably
picked up some --
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00:21:13,333 --> 00:21:15,153
a branch from some firewood.
441
00:21:15,183 --> 00:21:18,333
Now, if we had found that limb,
we would have found blood.
442
00:21:18,366 --> 00:21:20,416
We would have found hair.
We would have found tissues.
443
00:21:20,450 --> 00:21:23,120
But it was never found.
444
00:21:23,150 --> 00:21:28,150
Probably he discarded that
piece of wood on a woodpile,
445
00:21:28,183 --> 00:21:31,453
and very well it was consumed
as a part of a fire
446
00:21:31,483 --> 00:21:34,253
in one of the sorority
or fraternity houses.
447
00:21:36,366 --> 00:21:40,126
Details trickled out,
few and far between,
448
00:21:40,166 --> 00:21:41,466
but details trickled out.
449
00:21:42,016 --> 00:21:44,366
One of the sorority sisters
came home late,
450
00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:48,030
when she saw the man
walking down the stairway
451
00:21:48,066 --> 00:21:51,026
kind of looking
as he was coming down,
452
00:21:51,066 --> 00:21:52,326
but did not see her.
453
00:21:52,366 --> 00:21:53,416
It's dark.
454
00:21:53,450 --> 00:21:56,180
He's got a hat on
down over his ears.
455
00:21:56,216 --> 00:21:57,996
That was basically it.
456
00:21:58,033 --> 00:22:01,153
The fear -- people were very,
very panicked.
457
00:22:01,183 --> 00:22:03,273
They were looking for someone
to be arrested,
458
00:22:03,300 --> 00:22:07,030
and there was tremendous
pressure on law enforcement
459
00:22:07,066 --> 00:22:10,076
to get something done.
460
00:22:10,116 --> 00:22:12,476
Jordan: The Chi Omega killings
made national news.
461
00:22:13,016 --> 00:22:14,366
The investigators
in Washington State
462
00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:18,230
thought this had to be
the work of Ted Bundy.
463
00:22:18,266 --> 00:22:21,316
He was still their prime suspect
in the murders
464
00:22:21,350 --> 00:22:25,030
of several
college-age women in 1974.
465
00:22:25,066 --> 00:22:27,466
Reporter:
Bundy was a psychology major
at the University of Washington
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00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:32,120
before starting law school
in September 1974 in Utah.
467
00:22:32,150 --> 00:22:34,370
The 31-year-old Tacoma man
is still the center
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00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:36,420
of great interest
here in King County.
469
00:22:36,450 --> 00:22:41,200
We were very much focused
on the killings in Florida
470
00:22:41,233 --> 00:22:45,183
because we felt that there was
a strong possibility
471
00:22:45,216 --> 00:22:48,316
that it was Ted,
and we figured that he would go
472
00:22:48,350 --> 00:22:51,280
to another place
with universities
473
00:22:51,316 --> 00:22:53,426
and colleges
where he could blend in
474
00:22:53,466 --> 00:22:56,296
because he always
was able to blend in
475
00:22:56,333 --> 00:22:59,273
and draw no suspicion
toward himself.
476
00:22:59,300 --> 00:23:01,350
You understand,
Bundy never operated
477
00:23:01,383 --> 00:23:02,453
east of the Mississippi.
478
00:23:02,483 --> 00:23:04,073
He was one of, you know,
479
00:23:04,100 --> 00:23:06,220
literally hundreds
of possible suspects.
480
00:23:06,250 --> 00:23:09,250
Vasilinda: Little did they know,
Ted Bundy had been living here,
481
00:23:09,283 --> 00:23:11,373
walking around
this college campus
482
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:15,250
and remaining very undercover.
483
00:23:15,283 --> 00:23:19,003
On February 9th, about 100 miles
east of Tallahassee,
484
00:23:19,033 --> 00:23:21,233
a middle school student
had gone missing.
485
00:23:21,266 --> 00:23:23,196
Reporter:
Kim Leach was only 12 years old
486
00:23:23,233 --> 00:23:25,083
when she was abducted
from her school.
487
00:23:25,116 --> 00:23:30,296
It was an "aha!" moment that,
okay, these may be connected.
488
00:23:35,050 --> 00:23:37,220
Believe me.
I've grown in the past year,
489
00:23:37,250 --> 00:23:40,030
and I've learned a lot of things
about myself in the past year.
490
00:23:40,066 --> 00:23:41,216
Sure, I get angry.
491
00:23:41,250 --> 00:23:43,420
I get very, very angry
and indignant.
492
00:23:43,450 --> 00:23:45,100
I don't like being treated
like an animal,
493
00:23:45,133 --> 00:23:48,033
and I don't like people
walking around and ogling me
494
00:23:48,066 --> 00:23:53,246
like I'm some sort of weirdo
because I'm not, you know?
495
00:23:53,283 --> 00:23:56,183
I'm perfectly happy with
the person I am
496
00:23:56,216 --> 00:23:58,366
and I've always been.
497
00:23:58,400 --> 00:23:59,470
Welcome back to
"How It Really Happened."
498
00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:01,180
I'm Hill Harper.
499
00:24:01,216 --> 00:24:04,226
The brutal attacks on five women
at Florida State University
500
00:24:04,266 --> 00:24:06,176
shocked the nation.
501
00:24:06,216 --> 00:24:09,326
Two women were dead
and three others badly beaten.
502
00:24:09,366 --> 00:24:11,476
Authorities in Tallahassee
were searching for any clue
503
00:24:12,016 --> 00:24:13,446
that could lead them
to the killer,
504
00:24:13,483 --> 00:24:17,023
but a month after the attacks,
they were still coming up empty.
505
00:24:17,050 --> 00:24:20,350
Then, 200 miles away,
a simple traffic stop
506
00:24:20,383 --> 00:24:23,073
would bring
a potential suspect into focus.
507
00:24:23,100 --> 00:24:28,350
♪♪
508
00:24:28,383 --> 00:24:30,273
Lee: I was patrolling
west side of town,
509
00:24:30,300 --> 00:24:33,270
and it was noted that
it was a suspicious vehicle
510
00:24:33,300 --> 00:24:34,450
behind a building.
511
00:24:34,483 --> 00:24:37,273
A police officer observed
a Volkswagen.
512
00:24:37,300 --> 00:24:40,150
Lee: As a matter of routine,
I was running a check on the tag
513
00:24:40,183 --> 00:24:42,123
when it did come back
as a stolen vehicle.
514
00:24:42,150 --> 00:24:45,170
Katsaris: The car came back
stolen from Tallahassee.
515
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,430
Lee: At this time,
the traffic stop was made.
516
00:24:47,466 --> 00:24:49,276
While I was placing
the handcuffs on him,
517
00:24:49,316 --> 00:24:50,446
he kicked my feet
out from under me
518
00:24:50,483 --> 00:24:52,453
and struck me with a handcuff
519
00:24:52,483 --> 00:24:54,453
that had been placed
on one wrist
520
00:24:54,483 --> 00:24:56,273
and, of course,
knocked me off my feet.
521
00:24:56,300 --> 00:24:58,130
And that's when it started.
522
00:24:58,166 --> 00:24:59,426
Territo:
When the officer got to him,
523
00:24:59,466 --> 00:25:01,366
he jumped up,
started fighting the officer,
524
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:04,270
and the officer overpowered him,
took him into custody.
525
00:25:04,300 --> 00:25:07,050
Reporter:
When he was arrested shortly
after midnight on Wednesday,
526
00:25:07,083 --> 00:25:09,383
he was just considered
a belligerent speeder.
527
00:25:09,416 --> 00:25:12,396
He first identified himself
as an FSU graduate student.
528
00:25:12,433 --> 00:25:15,423
Late Thursday, however,
a bizarre story began unfolding.
529
00:25:15,450 --> 00:25:21,230
They had found somebody that
they thought might be connected,
530
00:25:21,266 --> 00:25:23,166
but they didn't know
who it was.
531
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,000
Katsaris:
He gave a name.
532
00:25:25,033 --> 00:25:26,173
The name was an athlete
533
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:29,300
that was well known
at Florida State University.
534
00:25:29,333 --> 00:25:31,273
He identified himself
as that person
535
00:25:31,300 --> 00:25:34,050
and actually looked
a little bit like him.
536
00:25:34,083 --> 00:25:36,123
As a result of that, of course,
537
00:25:36,150 --> 00:25:41,150
it was put out that this star
athlete from Florida State
538
00:25:41,183 --> 00:25:43,373
was arrested in Pensacola,
539
00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:46,370
whereupon we hear from him
and says,
540
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,370
"Uh, I'm not in Pensacola."
541
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,050
"I don't know who it is
you got out there.
542
00:25:50,083 --> 00:25:51,173
It's not me."
543
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,430
Katsaris: We now knew that
we weren't dealing
544
00:25:53,466 --> 00:25:57,046
with the person we thought.
545
00:25:57,083 --> 00:25:58,403
Reporter:
Who is this man?
546
00:25:58,433 --> 00:26:01,023
He refused to give his name
to authorities
547
00:26:01,050 --> 00:26:03,050
and then told
his arresting officer
548
00:26:03,083 --> 00:26:06,183
that he would probably get
a promotion for nabbing him.
549
00:26:06,216 --> 00:26:09,216
Jordan: Police now had
an unknown person in custody,
550
00:26:09,250 --> 00:26:11,300
and they were calling him
"the mystery man"
551
00:26:11,333 --> 00:26:13,133
in the Pensacola prison.
552
00:26:13,166 --> 00:26:15,276
And then they ran
his fingerprints.
553
00:26:15,316 --> 00:26:19,176
Katsaris:
At the time, fingerprints were
much slower than they are now.
554
00:26:19,216 --> 00:26:20,366
They had to be taken.
555
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:22,050
They had to be submitted.
556
00:26:22,083 --> 00:26:25,123
They had to be cross-referenced
by the FBI.
557
00:26:25,150 --> 00:26:28,230
It was a slower paper process.
558
00:26:28,266 --> 00:26:31,116
Today, that would be
instantly done.
559
00:26:31,150 --> 00:26:34,080
Reporter:
Only late last night, following
FBI fingerprint identification,
560
00:26:34,116 --> 00:26:36,116
did Pensacola police learn
they had captured
561
00:26:36,150 --> 00:26:38,370
one of the most wanted
and, according to the FBI,
562
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:41,150
most dangerous criminals
in the country --
563
00:26:41,183 --> 00:26:44,433
Theodore Robert Bundy,
31 years of age,
564
00:26:44,466 --> 00:26:47,326
convicted kidnapper,
escapee from prison,
565
00:26:47,366 --> 00:26:49,116
suspected murderer,
566
00:26:49,150 --> 00:26:53,030
killings in Colorado,
Utah, Oregon, and Washington,
567
00:26:53,066 --> 00:26:54,476
and now he is being
questioned in connection
568
00:26:55,016 --> 00:26:56,466
with two murders
at a sorority house
569
00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,120
at Florida State University
in Tallahassee.
570
00:26:59,150 --> 00:27:01,350
Those murders occurred
just 15 days
571
00:27:01,383 --> 00:27:04,223
after Bundy's New Year's Eve
escape from Colorado.
572
00:27:04,250 --> 00:27:05,420
He was really under the radar,
573
00:27:05,450 --> 00:27:07,400
and nobody recognized him
in Florida.
574
00:27:07,433 --> 00:27:09,353
The night his identity
was revealed,
575
00:27:09,383 --> 00:27:12,023
Ted called his girlfriend,
Liz Kendall,
576
00:27:12,050 --> 00:27:14,120
and she recounted
that telephone conversation
577
00:27:14,150 --> 00:27:16,300
with the Washington State
investigators.
578
00:27:34,183 --> 00:27:36,173
It's that brick-in-the-face
moment when you're like,
579
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,480
"God. I've been
so wrong about him."
580
00:27:41,316 --> 00:27:42,376
Vasilinda:
I think what shocked everybody
581
00:27:42,416 --> 00:27:45,026
was he was
the mysterious stranger.
582
00:27:45,066 --> 00:27:48,046
He was not a grotesque
human being.
583
00:27:48,083 --> 00:27:51,373
He was charming, in fact,
and that was big news.
584
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,200
Reporter: Bundy was on the FBI's
10-most-wanted list,
585
00:27:54,233 --> 00:27:56,303
and it was learned he was
wanted for questioning
586
00:27:56,333 --> 00:27:58,483
in as many as 36 sex murders.
587
00:27:59,016 --> 00:28:01,046
Authorities also say
they can place Bundy
588
00:28:01,083 --> 00:28:03,103
in Tallahassee in January.
589
00:28:03,133 --> 00:28:05,373
Bundy was living right up
the street on College Avenue.
590
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:09,370
Not too far from the university,
not too far from Chi Omega.
591
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:11,200
Reporter: Bundy lived in
this rooming house
592
00:28:11,233 --> 00:28:14,183
located less than a mile
from the Chi Omega sorority.
593
00:28:14,216 --> 00:28:16,246
I interviewed all the people
that lived in the doors
594
00:28:16,283 --> 00:28:18,453
next to him in
the rooming house at the Oaks,
595
00:28:18,483 --> 00:28:21,283
and no one had anything bad
to say of him.
596
00:28:21,316 --> 00:28:23,326
No one said they heard
anything weird.
597
00:28:23,366 --> 00:28:28,296
He seemed very calm,
and we had no reason to suspect
598
00:28:28,333 --> 00:28:29,333
that he could have
done anything.
599
00:28:29,366 --> 00:28:32,176
He was polite,
but very soft-spoken.
600
00:28:32,216 --> 00:28:34,996
He was a man of few words.
601
00:28:35,033 --> 00:28:38,383
You really had to say something
to him to get a response.
602
00:28:38,416 --> 00:28:41,026
He looked very familiar to me.
603
00:28:41,066 --> 00:28:45,416
I swear it must have been him
riding a bike by my house
604
00:28:45,450 --> 00:28:47,400
that I would see
coming and going to my car,
605
00:28:47,433 --> 00:28:50,103
going to classes.
606
00:28:50,133 --> 00:28:53,183
I worked in the law library,
and he had attended classes
607
00:28:53,216 --> 00:28:55,196
so frequently that many
of the professors thought
608
00:28:55,233 --> 00:28:57,253
he was
an actually enrolled student.
609
00:28:59,466 --> 00:29:02,116
Reporter: Theodore Bundy has
become a prime suspect
610
00:29:02,150 --> 00:29:05,020
in the Chi Omega
sorority house murders.
611
00:29:05,050 --> 00:29:06,470
Jordan: Ted Bundy's arrest
made headlines,
612
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,470
and it caught the eye of several
people in Lake City, Florida,
613
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:13,100
about 100 miles
east of Tallahassee.
614
00:29:13,133 --> 00:29:15,083
There, on February 9th,
615
00:29:15,116 --> 00:29:17,296
a middle school student
named Kimberly Leach
616
00:29:17,333 --> 00:29:20,203
had gone missing.
617
00:29:20,233 --> 00:29:22,153
Kim Leach was only 12 years old
618
00:29:22,183 --> 00:29:23,453
when she was abducted
from her school.
619
00:29:23,483 --> 00:29:30,403
It was an "aha!" moment that,
okay, these may be connected.
620
00:29:30,433 --> 00:29:33,433
And all we got to do now
is prove this is the guy.
621
00:29:33,466 --> 00:29:35,146
It's Bundy.
622
00:29:35,183 --> 00:29:38,473
Katsaris: He was a manipulator
of a superior kind.
623
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,120
He would tell me all the time,
624
00:29:41,150 --> 00:29:46,370
"Ken, the evidence was there.
You just couldn't find it."
625
00:29:53,066 --> 00:29:56,226
Security is extremely tight here
at the Pensacola City Jail.
626
00:29:56,266 --> 00:29:58,016
On the second floor
of this building,
627
00:29:58,050 --> 00:30:00,420
Ted Bundy
is under constant guard.
628
00:30:00,450 --> 00:30:02,080
McCain: We heard that
he had been arrested
629
00:30:02,116 --> 00:30:06,196
and that he was under suspicion
for the murders
630
00:30:06,233 --> 00:30:07,473
and the assault on Cheryl.
631
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:09,350
Reporter:
He became a prime suspect after
632
00:30:09,383 --> 00:30:13,373
he was arrested in Pensacola
driving a stolen Tallahassee car
633
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:16,250
and carrying
21 stolen credit cards,
634
00:30:16,283 --> 00:30:18,473
many of which belonged
to FSU coeds.
635
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:20,420
There was still
this apprehension of,
636
00:30:20,450 --> 00:30:22,320
is this the right person?
637
00:30:25,066 --> 00:30:27,076
Jordan: The ages and appearances
of these women
638
00:30:27,116 --> 00:30:30,346
was very similar to Ted Bundy's
other alleged victims,
639
00:30:30,383 --> 00:30:33,003
but the crime itself
was different.
640
00:30:33,033 --> 00:30:34,473
It just wasn't his typical M.O.
641
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:38,270
Simpson: Ted's M.O. was
to abduct young women
642
00:30:38,300 --> 00:30:41,280
by getting them to
accompany him to a vehicle.
643
00:30:41,316 --> 00:30:43,196
That's completely different
from what happened
644
00:30:43,233 --> 00:30:44,433
at the Chi Omega house.
645
00:30:44,466 --> 00:30:49,146
We didn't have any evidence
that this person, Ted Bundy,
646
00:30:49,183 --> 00:30:53,183
actually went into a home
647
00:30:53,216 --> 00:30:57,076
and killed
and left the bodies.
648
00:30:57,116 --> 00:30:59,146
There's still a lot of evidence
yet to be evaluated,
649
00:30:59,183 --> 00:31:02,373
and there's no link yet
between he or the murder scenes.
650
00:31:07,183 --> 00:31:09,433
Simpson: And then Kimberly Leach
was abducted
651
00:31:09,466 --> 00:31:13,326
from her junior high school
there in Lake City.
652
00:31:13,366 --> 00:31:18,076
We obviously now had a different
set of circumstances again.
653
00:31:20,233 --> 00:31:23,453
Dekle: My wife had just given
birth to our third child,
654
00:31:23,483 --> 00:31:27,303
and I was headed
to the hospital to visit,
655
00:31:27,333 --> 00:31:30,123
and I heard on the radio
an announcement
656
00:31:30,150 --> 00:31:31,250
that a little girl
had disappeared
657
00:31:31,283 --> 00:31:33,023
from Lake City Junior High.
658
00:31:33,050 --> 00:31:35,000
Reporter: February 9th,
Kimberly Leach left
659
00:31:35,033 --> 00:31:37,283
Lake City Junior High
for the last time.
660
00:31:37,316 --> 00:31:40,196
Simpson: She was a pretty little
12-year-old girl
661
00:31:40,233 --> 00:31:45,183
who had just been elected to the
Valentine court at her school,
662
00:31:45,216 --> 00:31:47,426
and on the very afternoon
she got kidnapped
663
00:31:47,466 --> 00:31:52,146
was going to go pick out
a ball gown to wear to the ball.
664
00:31:52,183 --> 00:31:54,033
Reporter:
Patty Kalish, a classmate,
665
00:31:54,066 --> 00:31:56,416
was one of the last people
to see Kim Leach alive,
666
00:31:56,450 --> 00:31:59,080
watching as she went out
the school's back door
667
00:31:59,116 --> 00:32:01,476
to the gym,
where Kim had left her purse.
668
00:32:02,016 --> 00:32:03,466
But instead of taking
the short route,
669
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:07,030
Kim went around to the front,
where she was abducted.
670
00:32:07,066 --> 00:32:09,126
Woman: To actually have
a 12-year-old child
671
00:32:09,166 --> 00:32:11,276
taken from our community --
672
00:32:11,316 --> 00:32:15,016
just grabbed her up
and took her away --
673
00:32:15,050 --> 00:32:18,200
it was just shock and disbelief.
674
00:32:18,233 --> 00:32:20,333
You can't imagine anything
more disquieting
675
00:32:20,366 --> 00:32:24,416
for a small, sleepy community
like Lake City, Florida.
676
00:32:24,450 --> 00:32:28,400
It was very traumatic
and caused a massive manhunt.
677
00:32:28,433 --> 00:32:32,353
They turned every stone possible
in hopes of finding her.
678
00:32:32,383 --> 00:32:37,083
When the connection was made
that Bundy had been in Lake City
679
00:32:37,116 --> 00:32:39,476
the night
before Kim went missing,
680
00:32:40,016 --> 00:32:44,416
it was like a bloody hindquarter
into a tank of sharks.
681
00:32:44,450 --> 00:32:46,330
Two and two added up to four,
682
00:32:46,366 --> 00:32:48,426
and Ted looked like
he could be our guy.
683
00:32:48,466 --> 00:32:53,026
Katsaris: He always would
involve several different
684
00:32:53,066 --> 00:32:55,996
law enforcement jurisdictions
in a crime --
685
00:32:56,033 --> 00:32:57,173
where he picked the girl up,
686
00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:00,000
where he would abandon her,
where he would kill her,
687
00:33:00,033 --> 00:33:02,253
where he would,
you know, bury them.
688
00:33:02,283 --> 00:33:05,033
He really made
a lot of confusion,
689
00:33:05,066 --> 00:33:06,176
and they weren't found
690
00:33:06,216 --> 00:33:10,416
until the evidence
was no longer available.
691
00:33:10,450 --> 00:33:12,370
Sullivan:
As a planner of murder,
692
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,230
he didn't leave
any stone unturned.
693
00:33:14,266 --> 00:33:16,346
It was like --
it was, like, choreographed,
694
00:33:16,383 --> 00:33:18,353
so he was very difficult
to track down.
695
00:33:18,383 --> 00:33:22,123
I sent investigators over
to talk to him.
696
00:33:22,150 --> 00:33:24,270
They were hoping
for a confession.
697
00:33:24,300 --> 00:33:26,130
Carlisle:
They were interrogating him.
698
00:33:26,166 --> 00:33:31,116
I got a call, said that
he's very distraught.
699
00:33:31,150 --> 00:33:34,130
It looks like he's on
the verge of confessing.
700
00:33:34,166 --> 00:33:37,216
Shortly after that,
he pulled himself together.
701
00:33:37,250 --> 00:33:39,050
And I'll tell you,
as long as they attempt
702
00:33:39,083 --> 00:33:41,203
to keep their heads
in the sand about me,
703
00:33:41,233 --> 00:33:43,283
there's gonna be people
turning up in canyons
704
00:33:43,316 --> 00:33:47,146
because the police there
aren't willing to accept
705
00:33:47,183 --> 00:33:48,283
what I think they know,
706
00:33:48,316 --> 00:33:51,126
and they know that
I didn't do these things.
707
00:33:53,233 --> 00:33:56,033
And I met him at
the Leon County Jail
708
00:33:56,066 --> 00:33:57,996
when a group of officers
went over there
709
00:33:58,033 --> 00:33:59,183
to try to interview him.
710
00:33:59,216 --> 00:34:01,096
Bundy said, "Well, you know,
I really don't have
711
00:34:01,133 --> 00:34:02,253
anything to say to y'all."
712
00:34:02,283 --> 00:34:04,133
And I said, "Well, thank you
very much," and we left.
713
00:34:04,166 --> 00:34:07,996
He was a manipulator
of a superior kind.
714
00:34:08,033 --> 00:34:11,333
He started playing games
with these investigators.
715
00:34:11,366 --> 00:34:14,296
They were like pawns
that he would move around.
716
00:34:14,333 --> 00:34:15,433
He would tell them,
717
00:34:15,466 --> 00:34:17,366
"I'm not gonna talk
during the daytime."
718
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,120
Okay. I said,
"We'll talk at night."
719
00:34:20,150 --> 00:34:21,280
Then they called me up and said,
720
00:34:21,316 --> 00:34:24,246
"Sheriff, he won't talk
unless he's near a window
721
00:34:24,283 --> 00:34:26,233
where he can see the full moon."
722
00:34:26,266 --> 00:34:28,096
Man: Have you been able
to pick up anything,
723
00:34:28,133 --> 00:34:30,183
any slips at all,
that he might have made
724
00:34:30,216 --> 00:34:32,066
that might have linked him
to anything
725
00:34:32,100 --> 00:34:33,220
that he's charged with?
726
00:34:33,250 --> 00:34:36,180
No, he's
a very careful thinker,
727
00:34:36,216 --> 00:34:37,296
and from what I understand,
728
00:34:37,333 --> 00:34:39,223
from the men that have been
questioning him,
729
00:34:39,250 --> 00:34:41,420
you know,
he says what he wants to,
730
00:34:41,450 --> 00:34:45,030
and he's very careful
about how he says it.
731
00:34:45,066 --> 00:34:48,176
He wasn't admitting to
being involved or anything.
732
00:34:48,216 --> 00:34:49,416
It was like a challenge.
733
00:34:49,450 --> 00:34:52,020
He would tell me all the time,
734
00:34:52,050 --> 00:34:58,250
"Ken, the evidence was there.
You just couldn't find it."
735
00:34:58,283 --> 00:35:00,183
And he didn't think
we were smart enough
736
00:35:00,216 --> 00:35:02,296
to know anything about that.
737
00:35:02,333 --> 00:35:05,253
Reporter:
So far, several hundred pieces
of evidence have been analyzed
738
00:35:05,283 --> 00:35:08,053
by the state's Department
of Criminal Law Enforcement.
739
00:35:08,083 --> 00:35:09,483
Katsaris:
And then it all fell into place.
740
00:35:10,016 --> 00:35:12,026
It just went boom, boom, boom.
741
00:35:12,066 --> 00:35:14,046
If it turns out
we made a mistake,
742
00:35:14,083 --> 00:35:15,173
that case is over with.
743
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,030
We're finished.
744
00:35:20,033 --> 00:35:21,353
Do you know something?
745
00:35:21,383 --> 00:35:24,223
People say, "Ted Bundy
didn't show any emotion.
746
00:35:24,250 --> 00:35:25,420
There must be something
in there."
747
00:35:25,450 --> 00:35:27,470
I showed emotion.
You know what people said?
748
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:31,070
"See? He really can get
violent and angry."
749
00:35:33,100 --> 00:35:35,100
Jordan:
Ted Bundy was under arrest,
750
00:35:35,133 --> 00:35:37,053
suspected in both
the brutal killings
751
00:35:37,083 --> 00:35:38,423
of the two sorority sisters,
752
00:35:38,450 --> 00:35:42,080
as well as the middle school
student Kimberly Leach.
753
00:35:42,116 --> 00:35:44,476
Police in both jurisdictions
were very busy
754
00:35:45,016 --> 00:35:47,176
gathering the evidence that they
needed to build these cases.
755
00:35:47,216 --> 00:35:49,996
Katsaris: There was a mountain
of evidence that we collected.
756
00:35:50,033 --> 00:35:52,053
Basically,
you're taking everything
757
00:35:52,083 --> 00:35:55,383
because you don't know
what is going to be important.
758
00:35:55,416 --> 00:35:58,416
Reporter: Technicians there
spent over 1,600 man-hours
759
00:35:58,450 --> 00:36:00,170
poring over teeth impressions,
760
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,380
blood samples, clothing,
and other articles.
761
00:36:02,416 --> 00:36:04,146
Katsaris: We were looking
for fingerprints.
762
00:36:04,183 --> 00:36:06,323
We certainly found
a lot of fingerprints,
763
00:36:06,350 --> 00:36:08,380
but we did not find his.
764
00:36:08,416 --> 00:36:11,176
Not only did we not have
Mr. Bundy's fingerprints
765
00:36:11,216 --> 00:36:14,226
in the crime scenes,
but Mr. Bundy lived
766
00:36:14,266 --> 00:36:17,026
at a rooming house
here in Tallahassee.
767
00:36:17,066 --> 00:36:19,326
The room had been wiped clean.
768
00:36:19,366 --> 00:36:21,376
Territo: We really had
no physical evidence
769
00:36:21,416 --> 00:36:23,126
that would have linked Bundy
770
00:36:23,166 --> 00:36:26,346
to these specific crimes
at that time.
771
00:36:26,383 --> 00:36:28,273
Reporter: The main evidence
linking him with these crimes
772
00:36:28,300 --> 00:36:30,030
appears to be an eyewitness
who says
773
00:36:30,066 --> 00:36:31,996
she thinks
she can identify the killer.
774
00:36:32,033 --> 00:36:33,203
We had an eyewitness.
775
00:36:33,233 --> 00:36:36,353
One of the Chi Omega girls
had come in late from a date,
776
00:36:36,383 --> 00:36:40,103
and she actually saw a man
leaving the sorority house.
777
00:36:40,133 --> 00:36:42,323
Lloyd: She was not
such a strong witness
778
00:36:42,350 --> 00:36:44,280
'cause she saw
this sketchy person
779
00:36:44,316 --> 00:36:45,996
that sort of looked like Bundy,
780
00:36:46,033 --> 00:36:49,123
but then along came something
I had never heard of before.
781
00:36:49,150 --> 00:36:51,180
Reporter: For the state, perhaps
the single most important
782
00:36:51,216 --> 00:36:54,196
piece of evidence linking Bundy
to the crimes is bite marks --
783
00:36:54,233 --> 00:36:56,283
the bite marks found
on murdered coeds.
784
00:36:56,316 --> 00:37:00,076
Katsaris:
There was injury on both
of the girls from biting.
785
00:37:00,116 --> 00:37:04,146
One of them had
injurious biting.
786
00:37:04,183 --> 00:37:08,223
The other had almost like
a perfect signature.
787
00:37:08,250 --> 00:37:10,250
Reporter: The prosecution claims
that Bundy's teeth
788
00:37:10,283 --> 00:37:12,133
matched those marks.
789
00:37:12,166 --> 00:37:14,176
To prove that, they called in
Miami dental expert
790
00:37:14,216 --> 00:37:15,466
Dr. Richard Souviron.
791
00:37:16,016 --> 00:37:18,376
Whoever left that bite
had crooked teeth.
792
00:37:18,416 --> 00:37:20,996
In the upper jaw,
there were chips
793
00:37:21,033 --> 00:37:23,283
in his front teeth
that left scratch marks,
794
00:37:23,316 --> 00:37:27,166
and if you combine the number
of points in the lower jaw
795
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:30,400
that were consistent
with the scratches in the upper,
796
00:37:30,433 --> 00:37:32,433
it would be pretty tough
to find somebody else
797
00:37:32,466 --> 00:37:35,116
that had marks like that.
798
00:37:35,150 --> 00:37:37,480
Territo: There really wasn't,
except for the bite marks,
799
00:37:38,016 --> 00:37:42,246
the kind of definitive physical
evidence that we hope we had.
800
00:37:42,283 --> 00:37:44,433
Reporter: The new field,
known as forensic odontology,
801
00:37:44,466 --> 00:37:47,226
is only allowed as evidence
in court in five states,
802
00:37:47,266 --> 00:37:48,416
one of them being Florida.
803
00:37:48,450 --> 00:37:50,420
Territo: Today, that would have
been very different
804
00:37:50,450 --> 00:37:53,430
because those bite marks would
have been swabbed for saliva.
805
00:37:53,466 --> 00:37:55,126
We would have gotten DNA.
806
00:37:55,166 --> 00:37:56,996
This happened in 1978.
807
00:37:57,033 --> 00:37:58,433
DNA probably didn't start
becoming a factor
808
00:37:58,466 --> 00:38:01,426
till around '87 or '88
in the United States.
809
00:38:01,466 --> 00:38:05,146
The idea of matching a bite mark
in somebody's flesh
810
00:38:05,183 --> 00:38:09,123
with somebody else's teeth
was too extraordinary for words.
811
00:38:09,150 --> 00:38:12,000
The bite-mark evidence was
certainly the most spectacular.
812
00:38:12,033 --> 00:38:14,123
I mean, it was eerie and weird
813
00:38:14,150 --> 00:38:16,080
because people
were unfamiliar with it.
814
00:38:16,116 --> 00:38:19,196
Jordan: Because this field was
so new and so unknown,
815
00:38:19,233 --> 00:38:21,423
the evidence they gathered
had to be rock-solid
816
00:38:21,450 --> 00:38:23,130
and legally sound.
817
00:38:23,166 --> 00:38:26,166
So to get the match, they were
going to need photographs
818
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:28,150
and dental impressions
of Ted Bundy's mouth.
819
00:38:28,183 --> 00:38:29,383
We wanted bite impressions
820
00:38:29,416 --> 00:38:34,216
because we had a photograph
of the bite mark,
821
00:38:34,250 --> 00:38:37,180
and we wanted to compare them.
822
00:38:38,433 --> 00:38:41,073
Normally speaking, when you want
some dental impressions,
823
00:38:41,100 --> 00:38:42,380
you go get a court order.
824
00:38:42,416 --> 00:38:44,426
We didn't want to get a court
order because then it would mean
825
00:38:44,466 --> 00:38:46,366
we had to confer
with his lawyer.
826
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,450
Ted would have been given
kind of a heads-up about this.
827
00:38:49,483 --> 00:38:51,403
We were concerned that
he might damage his teeth.
828
00:38:51,433 --> 00:38:55,303
Katsaris:
He was in a very secure cell
that had a lot of steel,
829
00:38:55,333 --> 00:38:58,123
so he could have easily
chipped a tooth.
830
00:38:58,150 --> 00:39:01,350
One anomaly, one difference,
831
00:39:01,383 --> 00:39:04,333
one little chip
that doesn't match,
832
00:39:04,366 --> 00:39:05,396
would throw it out.
833
00:39:05,433 --> 00:39:07,253
It would not be able to be used.
834
00:39:07,283 --> 00:39:09,353
We got a search warrant
for his mouth.
835
00:39:09,383 --> 00:39:11,203
To our knowledge, up till then,
no one had ever gotten
836
00:39:11,233 --> 00:39:13,153
a search warrant
for somebody's mouth.
837
00:39:13,183 --> 00:39:14,433
Katsaris:
Now, with a search warrant,
838
00:39:14,466 --> 00:39:18,176
you don't call up
the person's attorney and say,
839
00:39:18,216 --> 00:39:20,126
"We're gonna be serving
a search warrant."
840
00:39:20,166 --> 00:39:26,046
That's done by the police when
the police are ready to do it.
841
00:39:26,083 --> 00:39:28,423
With the search warrant
came an element of surprise.
842
00:39:28,450 --> 00:39:31,120
I don't think Bundy
had any idea.
843
00:39:34,116 --> 00:39:37,476
One night, I went to his cell,
and I said,
844
00:39:38,016 --> 00:39:40,176
"Mr. Bundy,
you're coming with me."
845
00:39:40,216 --> 00:39:44,066
I took him, with a series
of deputy escorts,
846
00:39:44,100 --> 00:39:46,050
to the dental office,
847
00:39:46,083 --> 00:39:50,003
and as we went up
the back stairs after midnight,
848
00:39:50,033 --> 00:39:52,283
he noticed a lot
of professional photographs
849
00:39:52,316 --> 00:39:55,426
lining the staircase,
and he broke out in laughter.
850
00:39:55,466 --> 00:39:57,466
Territo: He thought he was going
to a photo lab
851
00:39:58,000 --> 00:39:59,200
and he said,
"I know where I'm going.
852
00:39:59,233 --> 00:40:00,373
You want to take
a picture of me."
853
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:02,080
Katsaris:
Well, the dentist just happened
854
00:40:02,116 --> 00:40:04,416
to be interested
in professional photos,
855
00:40:04,450 --> 00:40:08,150
and that was what decorated
his back staircase.
856
00:40:08,183 --> 00:40:10,153
Territo: Once he got upstairs
into the dentist's office,
857
00:40:10,183 --> 00:40:11,273
I was standing there.
858
00:40:11,300 --> 00:40:13,100
He started screaming
for his lawyer.
859
00:40:13,133 --> 00:40:16,083
I believe he started
to put it all together.
860
00:40:16,116 --> 00:40:19,196
The bite mark --
the evidence is there.
861
00:40:19,233 --> 00:40:23,033
Bundy was cuffed with
his hands and his feet,
862
00:40:23,066 --> 00:40:24,366
so he was
chained up pretty good.
863
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:26,470
Katsaris:
At that time, I read to him
864
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:30,270
the complete search warrant
for his mouth
865
00:40:30,300 --> 00:40:33,370
and the fact that
the judge said we could use
866
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:40,050
any and all reasonable force
to retrieve those impressions.
867
00:40:40,083 --> 00:40:43,253
Ted Bundy looked at me
and said, "Force?"
868
00:40:43,283 --> 00:40:46,183
He said, "Ken, come on, now.
869
00:40:46,216 --> 00:40:50,416
You know I'm not
a violent person."
870
00:40:50,450 --> 00:40:54,050
He sat down in the chair,
leaned back,
871
00:40:54,083 --> 00:40:57,253
opened his mouth,
and it was over.
872
00:40:57,283 --> 00:41:00,073
I think he knew
he was in trouble.
873
00:41:00,100 --> 00:41:04,050
Reporter:
He is handsome, articulate, and
has a magnetic appeal to women,
874
00:41:04,083 --> 00:41:06,033
and the state says
he's a killer.
875
00:41:06,066 --> 00:41:09,396
There was quite a bit of turmoil
and confusion.
876
00:41:09,433 --> 00:41:11,123
Will he be punished?
877
00:41:11,150 --> 00:41:13,220
He just doesn't look like
the type to kill somebody.
878
00:41:13,250 --> 00:41:17,350
Looking him in the eyes
was the first time that I felt,
879
00:41:17,383 --> 00:41:20,103
like, sick to my stomach.
880
00:41:20,133 --> 00:41:22,353
We think we've got a good case,
but you never know.
881
00:41:22,383 --> 00:41:24,033
He could go free.
882
00:41:24,066 --> 00:41:27,116
And he was so haughty, so
arrogant and thumbing his nose.
883
00:41:27,150 --> 00:41:28,480
You told them that
you were gonna get me.
884
00:41:29,016 --> 00:41:30,026
He said he was
gonna get me.
885
00:41:30,066 --> 00:41:31,296
Okay,
you got the indictment.
886
00:41:31,333 --> 00:41:33,033
It'sall
you're gonna get.
887
00:41:33,066 --> 00:41:36,216
That was one of the first times
I saw Ted Bundy really mad.
888
00:41:38,433 --> 00:41:41,333
The evidence against Ted Bundy
was mounting,
889
00:41:41,366 --> 00:41:43,126
but would it be enough
to finally bring
890
00:41:43,166 --> 00:41:45,476
the suspected serial killer
to justice?
891
00:41:46,016 --> 00:41:48,416
And even if authorities
were able to get a conviction,
892
00:41:48,450 --> 00:41:52,080
could they keep this master
escape artist behind bars?
893
00:41:52,116 --> 00:41:55,146
Next time on
"How It Really Happened."
894
00:41:55,183 --> 00:41:56,483
I'm Hill Harper.
895
00:41:57,016 --> 00:41:58,226
Thanks for watching.
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