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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,150 --> 00:00:06,250 ♪♪ 2 00:00:06,283 --> 00:00:08,233 Being in prison, 3 00:00:08,266 --> 00:00:12,026 going through a kind of hell, matures a person, 4 00:00:12,066 --> 00:00:15,396 and I think it's done good things for me. 5 00:00:15,433 --> 00:00:20,033 My only misgiving is that I might never be 6 00:00:20,066 --> 00:00:21,446 in a position to apply it, 7 00:00:21,483 --> 00:00:24,423 you know, on the streets where I'd like to apply it. 8 00:00:24,450 --> 00:00:32,050 ♪♪ 9 00:00:32,083 --> 00:00:39,203 ♪♪ 10 00:00:39,233 --> 00:00:40,403 Welcome to "How it Really Happened." 11 00:00:40,433 --> 00:00:42,053 I'm Hill Harper. 12 00:00:42,083 --> 00:00:45,253 In the early 1970s, terror gripped the United States 13 00:00:45,283 --> 00:00:47,333 when young women began disappearing. 14 00:00:47,366 --> 00:00:49,096 They were later found murdered, 15 00:00:49,133 --> 00:00:51,473 brutally beaten, and sexually assaulted. 16 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:54,120 The main suspect in the crime seemed an unlikely one -- 17 00:00:54,150 --> 00:00:57,420 a handsome, charming law student named Ted Bundy. 18 00:00:57,450 --> 00:01:00,180 When he was taken into custody on kidnapping charges, 19 00:01:00,216 --> 00:01:02,176 authorities and the public breathed 20 00:01:02,216 --> 00:01:04,176 a collective sigh of relief. 21 00:01:04,216 --> 00:01:08,476 But this was not the end of the Bundy story, not even close. 22 00:01:09,016 --> 00:01:11,266 Here's how it really happened. 23 00:01:13,433 --> 00:01:15,333 Reporter: From Washington State to Oregon to Utah, 24 00:01:15,366 --> 00:01:18,076 police have discovered a pattern of rape-murders. 25 00:01:18,116 --> 00:01:20,476 McChesney: Women started going missing, 26 00:01:21,016 --> 00:01:24,246 their bodies found much later time 27 00:01:24,283 --> 00:01:28,273 on deserted roads, in the forest. 28 00:01:28,300 --> 00:01:31,350 Reporter: Lynda Ann Healy, Denise Naslund, Janice Ann Ott, 29 00:01:31,383 --> 00:01:34,423 Georgann Hawkins and 18-year-old Susan Rancourt. 30 00:01:34,450 --> 00:01:40,300 We were both sobbing, and I said to my husband, 31 00:01:40,333 --> 00:01:43,353 "I'll never see her again." 32 00:01:43,383 --> 00:01:45,003 McChesney: And we didn't have evidence. 33 00:01:45,033 --> 00:01:46,353 We didn't have clues. 34 00:01:48,483 --> 00:01:51,403 Lake Sammamish would change everything. 35 00:01:51,433 --> 00:01:56,153 Meixner: This guy came up, and he was kind of tall, 36 00:01:56,183 --> 00:01:59,253 very tanned, very good-looking, 37 00:01:59,283 --> 00:02:01,103 and he said, "Hi. I'm Ted." 38 00:02:01,133 --> 00:02:03,353 So that's the first time we had a name. 39 00:02:03,383 --> 00:02:05,353 And they knew this person drove a Volkswagen. 40 00:02:05,383 --> 00:02:08,153 Chino: The newspaper put the composite out, 41 00:02:08,183 --> 00:02:11,383 and my friend -- she threw the picture on the table 42 00:02:11,416 --> 00:02:13,316 and she said to me, "Who is -- who do you think that is?" 43 00:02:13,350 --> 00:02:15,050 I said, "Well, it's Ted. Why?" 44 00:02:15,083 --> 00:02:16,273 And then she burst into tears 45 00:02:16,300 --> 00:02:21,350 because that looked a lot like her boyfriend, Ted Bundy. 46 00:02:21,383 --> 00:02:23,303 Reporter: Theodore Robert Bundy at age 25 -- 47 00:02:23,333 --> 00:02:25,433 a Republican campaign worker in Seattle; 48 00:02:25,466 --> 00:02:29,176 at 28 -- a University of Utah law student. 49 00:02:29,216 --> 00:02:33,246 He didn't look like a murderer. He was nice-looking. 50 00:02:33,283 --> 00:02:35,283 He was educated. 51 00:02:35,316 --> 00:02:37,296 If he was in this room right now, 52 00:02:37,333 --> 00:02:40,153 you would feel very comfortable, very comfortable with him. 53 00:02:40,183 --> 00:02:43,373 He just didn't present any type of a threatening persona to you, 54 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:45,280 and that was his strength. 55 00:02:45,316 --> 00:02:46,996 It was that deception. 56 00:02:47,033 --> 00:02:48,203 Reporter: In a Salt Lake City trial, 57 00:02:48,233 --> 00:02:51,083 Bundy was convicted of trying to kidnap Carol DaRonch 58 00:02:51,116 --> 00:02:53,076 from a shopping center in Murray. 59 00:02:53,116 --> 00:02:55,026 She managed to escape from his Volkswagen 60 00:02:55,066 --> 00:02:57,216 and testified against him at the trial. 61 00:02:57,250 --> 00:02:59,480 All throughout this, Ted was saying, "I'm innocent." 62 00:03:00,016 --> 00:03:01,266 I'm no fool. 63 00:03:01,300 --> 00:03:03,480 I don't like being locked up, and I don't think any man does. 64 00:03:06,350 --> 00:03:08,250 It was in Utah 65 00:03:08,283 --> 00:03:13,153 where Bundy was pulled out of the shadows. 66 00:03:13,183 --> 00:03:15,233 As each day went on, 67 00:03:15,266 --> 00:03:19,246 there was more information that came in about Ted. 68 00:03:19,283 --> 00:03:22,323 Reporter: Eyewitness reports fitted with Bundy's description. 69 00:03:22,350 --> 00:03:25,180 There was also physical evidence in Bundy's car 70 00:03:25,216 --> 00:03:27,426 strong enough for Bundy to become the prime suspect 71 00:03:27,466 --> 00:03:30,396 in the baffling series of crimes. 72 00:03:30,433 --> 00:03:33,373 Because of the notoriety he got nationally, 73 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:37,120 all these various states started connecting the dots together, 74 00:03:37,150 --> 00:03:38,380 and Bundy was there. 75 00:03:38,416 --> 00:03:41,096 Reporter: Investigators in Vail, Grand Junction, and Aspen 76 00:03:41,133 --> 00:03:46,003 have open murder cases that they believe Ted Bundy can solve. 77 00:03:46,033 --> 00:03:48,223 For instance, 26-year-old Julie Cunningham, 78 00:03:48,250 --> 00:03:52,320 a Vail ski instructor, disappeared in March of 1975. 79 00:03:52,350 --> 00:03:54,430 Police have a credit-card receipt that tells them 80 00:03:54,466 --> 00:03:58,466 Ted Bundy bought gas in that area on that same day. 81 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:01,080 Denise Oliverson disappeared from Grand Juction 82 00:04:01,116 --> 00:04:02,426 in April of 1975. 83 00:04:02,466 --> 00:04:05,016 Police can also prove that Ted Bundy 84 00:04:05,050 --> 00:04:08,120 was in that area at that time. 85 00:04:08,150 --> 00:04:12,350 In 1976, Ted Bundy was extradited from Utah to Colorado 86 00:04:12,383 --> 00:04:15,333 to face charges, for the very first time, 87 00:04:15,366 --> 00:04:17,216 of first-degree murder. 88 00:04:17,250 --> 00:04:19,120 The victim was Caryn Campbell. 89 00:04:19,150 --> 00:04:22,150 She was a nurse on vacation with her fiancé and his children. 90 00:04:22,183 --> 00:04:26,103 She was last seen getting onto a crowded elevator in her hotel. 91 00:04:26,133 --> 00:04:28,333 And they know that she got off on her floor, 92 00:04:28,366 --> 00:04:31,226 but she never made it to her room. 93 00:04:31,266 --> 00:04:33,176 Theodore Bundy is in Colorado tonight, 94 00:04:33,216 --> 00:04:35,416 where he will stand trial for first-degree murder. 95 00:04:35,450 --> 00:04:38,050 It was thought Bundy would fight extradition, 96 00:04:38,083 --> 00:04:40,183 but this morning he told a Utah judge 97 00:04:40,216 --> 00:04:42,376 he was ready to go to Colorado. 98 00:04:42,416 --> 00:04:46,216 Jordan: Ted Bundy once again decided to act in his own defense, 99 00:04:46,250 --> 00:04:49,400 and the freedom this gave him played right into his plan. 100 00:04:49,433 --> 00:04:52,073 I get to go to the library. [ Laughs ] 101 00:04:52,100 --> 00:04:54,450 It's a 50-yard walk from here 102 00:04:54,483 --> 00:04:56,383 across the parking lot to the library. 103 00:04:56,416 --> 00:04:58,116 That's my fresh air. 104 00:04:58,150 --> 00:05:03,150 My class is graduating in about a month from law school. 105 00:05:03,183 --> 00:05:08,073 I'll bet you I know more about law than any of them. 106 00:05:08,100 --> 00:05:11,280 There was already a trial going on there. 107 00:05:11,316 --> 00:05:14,276 Jordan: It was one of the first celebrity trials of its kind. 108 00:05:14,316 --> 00:05:16,466 The French actress Claudine Longet 109 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:18,450 was charged with shooting her boyfriend, 110 00:05:18,483 --> 00:05:22,133 the world-champion skier Spider Sabich, to death, 111 00:05:22,166 --> 00:05:23,426 and the circus atmosphere 112 00:05:23,466 --> 00:05:28,116 provided a wonderful distraction for Ted Bundy. 113 00:05:28,150 --> 00:05:30,450 He was looking for avenues of escape. 114 00:05:30,483 --> 00:05:33,023 Do you ever feel like you'd like to escape? 115 00:05:33,050 --> 00:05:35,450 [ Laughs ] 116 00:05:35,483 --> 00:05:38,123 I've dreamed about flying over those fences. 117 00:05:38,150 --> 00:05:40,150 I've dreamed about climbing over those fences 118 00:05:40,183 --> 00:05:41,423 and tunneling under those fences. 119 00:05:41,450 --> 00:05:44,480 With every other man in there, I've dreamed about being free. 120 00:05:45,016 --> 00:05:47,226 Sullivan: Because he was acting as his own attorney, 121 00:05:47,266 --> 00:05:48,466 he was given access to the library, 122 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:50,180 which is on the second floor. 123 00:05:50,216 --> 00:05:52,246 They used to keep that window open, 124 00:05:52,283 --> 00:05:54,183 nice, fresh air coming in. 125 00:05:54,216 --> 00:05:55,416 Guards started trusting him. 126 00:05:55,450 --> 00:05:58,470 Even after he was associated with all these crimes, 127 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:01,300 and even after he'd been convicted in the DaRonch case, 128 00:06:01,333 --> 00:06:04,003 charm was his first default mode. 129 00:06:04,033 --> 00:06:07,053 Jordan: Ted Bundy petitioned and won a motion 130 00:06:07,083 --> 00:06:10,003 that he wanted to be unshackled in court. 131 00:06:10,033 --> 00:06:14,103 So in June 7th, 1977, Ted Bundy went to court 132 00:06:14,133 --> 00:06:15,433 and was allowed to be unshackled 133 00:06:15,466 --> 00:06:19,416 and go to the law library during a recess. 134 00:06:19,450 --> 00:06:22,130 It was there that he escaped. 135 00:06:25,350 --> 00:06:28,170 A woman walked into the courthouse, and she said, 136 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:29,370 "is it common for people to jump out 137 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:31,370 the second-floor window of the courthouse?" 138 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:33,320 He was charismatic, and they trusted him. 139 00:06:33,350 --> 00:06:35,080 They let him go in the library, 140 00:06:35,116 --> 00:06:36,296 and he jumped out of the building. 141 00:06:36,333 --> 00:06:38,083 Reporter: Bundy was alone inside 142 00:06:38,116 --> 00:06:40,046 when he decided to open that window 143 00:06:40,083 --> 00:06:42,403 and jump the 25 feet to the ground. 144 00:06:42,433 --> 00:06:44,353 In fact, you can still see the indentations 145 00:06:44,383 --> 00:06:46,183 in the grass here where he landed. 146 00:06:46,216 --> 00:06:49,116 Took off and got into the wilds of Colorado. 147 00:06:53,033 --> 00:06:56,283 We covered the escape after the fact. 148 00:06:56,316 --> 00:07:00,166 Packer: Roadblocks were set up within 15 minutes of Bundy's escape, 149 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:05,300 and 150 men and 5 bloodhounds combed the canyons around Aspen. 150 00:07:05,333 --> 00:07:08,423 So far, these roadblocks have turned up no sign of Ted Bundy. 151 00:07:08,450 --> 00:07:12,100 They didn't take security all that seriously, 152 00:07:12,133 --> 00:07:16,223 and Bundy was, by all accounts, really smart, very clever. 153 00:07:16,250 --> 00:07:19,030 He wandered around, lost a lot of weight, 154 00:07:19,066 --> 00:07:21,026 was confused, 155 00:07:21,066 --> 00:07:24,346 ended up coming back into Aspen and stole a car. 156 00:07:26,283 --> 00:07:28,273 A couple patrol officers saw what they thought 157 00:07:28,300 --> 00:07:31,000 was a drunk driver. 158 00:07:31,033 --> 00:07:32,303 And they discovered two things. 159 00:07:32,333 --> 00:07:34,283 One -- the person is not drunk. 160 00:07:34,316 --> 00:07:36,366 And two -- Ted Bundy was back in Aspen. 161 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:39,100 So he was rearrested that night. 162 00:07:39,133 --> 00:07:41,373 Reporter: Streets of Aspen are safe again. 163 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:44,080 Suspected multiple murderer Theodore Bundy 164 00:07:44,116 --> 00:07:47,996 is back in custody after an absence of nearly seven days. 165 00:07:50,316 --> 00:07:53,016 There was a note -- "You got to call 166 00:07:53,050 --> 00:07:56,250 from Ted Bundy in Colorado." 167 00:07:56,283 --> 00:08:00,283 He says, "I just wanted to know what you thought of my escape." 168 00:08:02,433 --> 00:08:04,003 Jordan: After he was caught, 169 00:08:04,033 --> 00:08:06,373 authorities were a lot more careful with Ted, 170 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:08,330 but they still allowed him a lot more freedom 171 00:08:08,366 --> 00:08:10,126 than the other prisoners got. 172 00:08:10,166 --> 00:08:13,266 And this would include having a newspaper photographer 173 00:08:13,300 --> 00:08:17,050 come into his cell to take photographs of him. 174 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,430 Gay: It was me and Ted Bundy. 175 00:08:24,466 --> 00:08:28,176 I was secure, and they were gonna be careful with Ted. 176 00:08:32,150 --> 00:08:36,370 I feel I captured who Ted was at that time. 177 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:41,480 You see his deep, contemplative, and inner thinking 178 00:08:42,016 --> 00:08:44,176 that he was going through. 179 00:08:45,316 --> 00:08:50,246 He wasn't comfortable with himself or his life. 180 00:08:50,283 --> 00:08:53,223 The photographs were introspective, but soon, 181 00:08:53,250 --> 00:08:55,380 Ted Bundy would be on the outside. 182 00:08:55,416 --> 00:08:57,216 What the authorities didn't realize 183 00:08:57,250 --> 00:09:00,330 is that he was planning another escape. 184 00:09:00,366 --> 00:09:04,226 He was in shackles, and they didn't keep him in shackles 185 00:09:04,266 --> 00:09:08,066 when he was put back in his cell. 186 00:09:08,100 --> 00:09:12,050 There was a light fixture that was not that large, 187 00:09:12,083 --> 00:09:14,323 but large enough, and it was due to be welded, 188 00:09:14,350 --> 00:09:16,130 but it hadn't been. 189 00:09:16,166 --> 00:09:18,366 Bundy lost some weight. 190 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:21,420 The prisoners were coming to the authorities, saying, 191 00:09:21,450 --> 00:09:25,300 "Listen, Bundy is getting up in the ceiling 192 00:09:25,333 --> 00:09:29,023 and, like, crawling in the above-rafter area. 193 00:09:29,050 --> 00:09:31,350 We hear him crawling back and forth at night 194 00:09:31,383 --> 00:09:33,323 and going back into his cell." 195 00:09:33,350 --> 00:09:35,000 They didn't do anything about it. 196 00:09:35,033 --> 00:09:37,053 That is just astounding stuff. 197 00:09:37,083 --> 00:09:42,083 ♪♪ 198 00:09:42,116 --> 00:09:45,096 He did everything he could to avoid detection. 199 00:09:45,133 --> 00:09:49,033 He takes his books and stuff and he forms what is, 200 00:09:49,066 --> 00:09:51,026 like, a body, covers it. 201 00:09:51,066 --> 00:09:52,316 He had already said he didn't feel well, 202 00:09:52,350 --> 00:09:54,150 so they let him sleep. 203 00:09:54,183 --> 00:10:00,083 He gets up in the rafters and down into a jailer's apartment. 204 00:10:00,116 --> 00:10:02,326 The jailer had gone out for a movie. 205 00:10:02,366 --> 00:10:04,326 Gets some of his clothes, puts them on, 206 00:10:04,366 --> 00:10:07,296 goes out into the night and freedom once again. 207 00:10:11,366 --> 00:10:15,146 Bundy, who had been awaiting trial near Aspen, Colorado, 208 00:10:15,183 --> 00:10:19,303 escaped from a Colorado jail on December 31, 1977. 209 00:10:19,333 --> 00:10:20,433 Jordan: Ted Bundy was gone, 210 00:10:20,466 --> 00:10:23,246 and the authorities did not know where he went. 211 00:10:23,283 --> 00:10:27,023 So the FBI started tracking down every possible lead. 212 00:10:27,050 --> 00:10:29,100 And soon, they would be knocking on the door 213 00:10:29,133 --> 00:10:31,303 of the very photographer who had spent three hours 214 00:10:31,333 --> 00:10:33,403 together with Ted in prison. 215 00:10:33,433 --> 00:10:37,053 Gay: After Ted escaped, they just came to say, 216 00:10:37,083 --> 00:10:39,023 "Don't leave town," 217 00:10:39,050 --> 00:10:42,070 just in case I had something to do with it. 218 00:10:42,100 --> 00:10:46,230 Was I able to slip something in to Ted and help him escape? 219 00:10:46,266 --> 00:10:51,226 ♪♪ 220 00:10:51,266 --> 00:10:55,296 Theodore Bundy is now one of the FBI's most-wanted men. 221 00:10:57,283 --> 00:11:01,173 I woke up to being attacked. 222 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:04,130 Reporter: It was early in the morning of January 15th, 1978, 223 00:11:04,166 --> 00:11:06,326 that a killer walked into this Chi Omega sorority house 224 00:11:06,366 --> 00:11:08,166 at Florida State University 225 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:10,230 and strangled two young coeds to death, 226 00:11:10,266 --> 00:11:13,196 beat two others with a club, and then struck again. 227 00:11:13,233 --> 00:11:16,473 The next thing I remember, I was in the hospital. 228 00:11:23,283 --> 00:11:26,453 A federal warrant was issued on January 5, 1978, 229 00:11:26,483 --> 00:11:28,433 at Denver, Colorado, 230 00:11:28,466 --> 00:11:30,276 charging Bundy with unlawful flight 231 00:11:30,316 --> 00:11:32,476 to avoid prosecution for the crime of murder. 232 00:11:33,016 --> 00:11:36,126 McChesney: When Ted escaped, we did not believe 233 00:11:36,166 --> 00:11:37,396 he would come back to Washington 234 00:11:37,433 --> 00:11:43,133 because he was too well-known in Washington State. 235 00:11:43,166 --> 00:11:45,046 He would want to get to the furthest place 236 00:11:45,083 --> 00:11:48,153 away from Washington State as he could get. 237 00:11:48,183 --> 00:11:51,103 [ Helicopter blades whirring ] 238 00:11:51,133 --> 00:11:53,403 [ Alarm beeping ] 239 00:11:53,433 --> 00:11:55,203 Vasilinda: My clock radio went off 240 00:11:55,233 --> 00:11:57,283 early that Super Bowl Sunday morning. 241 00:11:57,316 --> 00:12:01,026 It was a national newscast saying four sorority girls 242 00:12:01,066 --> 00:12:02,346 had been attacked at Florida State. 243 00:12:02,383 --> 00:12:05,153 Reporter: The killer walked into this Chi Omega sorority house. 244 00:12:05,183 --> 00:12:07,473 I got a call from the sheriff, who was Ken Katsaris. 245 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:11,170 He wanted me to meet him at the Chi Omega sorority house. 246 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:15,270 We have possibly three or four deaths. 247 00:12:15,300 --> 00:12:18,120 We were all shocked at what occurred. 248 00:12:18,150 --> 00:12:23,120 ♪♪ 249 00:12:23,150 --> 00:12:24,300 McCain: It was a Saturday night, 250 00:12:24,333 --> 00:12:26,333 and we'd all just returned from Christmas break. 251 00:12:26,366 --> 00:12:29,066 It was, for all intents and purposes, 252 00:12:29,100 --> 00:12:32,350 a time to get reacquainted after being gone for several weeks. 253 00:12:32,383 --> 00:12:37,353 I had gone around 6:00 to a social 254 00:12:37,383 --> 00:12:40,483 at our little community church. 255 00:12:41,016 --> 00:12:44,466 Left about 10:00 and went back to Chi O, 256 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:46,280 went to my room, 257 00:12:46,316 --> 00:12:48,426 did some reading, just kind of relaxed, 258 00:12:48,466 --> 00:12:54,076 and then went to bed probably about 11:30 or 12:00. 259 00:12:54,116 --> 00:12:56,366 Chandler: My daddy called and told me that my mother was sick. 260 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:58,420 She had the flu, and I would come over and cook dinner? 261 00:12:58,450 --> 00:13:00,280 And my dad wanted me to spend the night, 262 00:13:00,316 --> 00:13:02,166 but I had a project due on Monday, 263 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:05,050 so I went back to the sorority house. 264 00:13:05,083 --> 00:13:08,103 I had dance rehearsal that day. 265 00:13:08,133 --> 00:13:11,253 That evening, I had a date, a first-time date, 266 00:13:11,283 --> 00:13:15,053 and then I went home and I went to bed, 267 00:13:15,083 --> 00:13:18,153 and that's the evening that it happened. 268 00:13:18,183 --> 00:13:20,333 Reporter: During the predawn hours of January 15th, 269 00:13:20,366 --> 00:13:22,316 the killer walked through an unlocked door 270 00:13:22,350 --> 00:13:24,130 at the Chi Omega sorority house 271 00:13:24,166 --> 00:13:29,166 and brutally beat four FSU coeds as they slept. 272 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:32,470 Territo: We believe he had entered through an unlocked door 273 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:35,400 on the first floor of the Chi Omega sorority house. 274 00:13:35,433 --> 00:13:38,083 Reporter: Two of the girls, 20-year-old Lisa Levy 275 00:13:38,116 --> 00:13:41,326 and 21-year-old Margaret Bowman, died from their injuries. 276 00:13:41,366 --> 00:13:43,446 Territo: He had gone up the back stairs, 277 00:13:43,483 --> 00:13:46,333 and the first room he would have encountered 278 00:13:46,366 --> 00:13:49,376 would have been the room occupied by Margaret Bowman. 279 00:13:49,416 --> 00:13:51,996 He entered that room, struck her, 280 00:13:52,033 --> 00:13:53,173 rendered her unconscious, 281 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:59,270 and then he strangled her with a pair of pantyhose. 282 00:13:59,300 --> 00:14:01,370 He exited her room, would have turned to the right, 283 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:04,300 walked down the hallway maybe five or six feet. 284 00:14:04,333 --> 00:14:08,023 That would have been the room of Lisa Levy. 285 00:14:08,050 --> 00:14:10,350 Strikes her, renders her unconscious, 286 00:14:10,383 --> 00:14:13,053 and then he strangles her manually. 287 00:14:13,083 --> 00:14:14,483 Left her room, turned to his right, 288 00:14:15,016 --> 00:14:17,146 then to his left, and walked into the room 289 00:14:17,183 --> 00:14:19,373 occupied by two more coeds. 290 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:21,330 Kleiner Rubin: He attacked Margaret and Lisa 291 00:14:21,366 --> 00:14:23,376 and then came into our room, 292 00:14:23,416 --> 00:14:27,466 and I don't think he was expecting two of us in the room. 293 00:14:28,016 --> 00:14:31,476 I woke up to being attacked. 294 00:14:32,016 --> 00:14:34,196 I was numb and being hit. 295 00:14:34,233 --> 00:14:38,253 When the light shone in, I remember seeing a shadow, 296 00:14:38,283 --> 00:14:41,323 and I saw him attacking Karen, my roommate. 297 00:14:41,350 --> 00:14:43,450 Struck her across the face. 298 00:14:43,483 --> 00:14:46,403 He then left the Chi Omega sorority house, 299 00:14:46,433 --> 00:14:48,053 walking downstairs, 300 00:14:48,083 --> 00:14:50,203 and he disappeared into the night. 301 00:14:50,233 --> 00:14:51,423 The young women who had been assaulted 302 00:14:51,450 --> 00:14:53,020 starting screaming, of course, 303 00:14:53,050 --> 00:14:54,320 and that's the beginning of the story 304 00:14:54,350 --> 00:14:56,020 where police were called. 305 00:14:56,050 --> 00:14:59,300 The ambulance was called. 306 00:14:59,333 --> 00:15:01,153 McCain: I immediately went to Lisa's room. 307 00:15:01,183 --> 00:15:04,083 She was not conscious, but she was still very much alive. 308 00:15:04,116 --> 00:15:06,316 An EMT came right behind me and grabbed me by the shoulders 309 00:15:06,350 --> 00:15:09,250 and pulled me away so that they could do what they needed to do. 310 00:15:09,283 --> 00:15:14,423 ♪♪ 311 00:15:14,450 --> 00:15:18,050 I did not see Karen until the ambulance drivers 312 00:15:18,083 --> 00:15:21,173 were taking her out. 313 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:23,230 Chandler: I just remember little flashes of things -- 314 00:15:23,266 --> 00:15:26,366 being put into the ambulance and just asking how Kathy was. 315 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:29,000 Reporter: Karen Chandler and Kathy Kleiner 316 00:15:29,033 --> 00:15:33,053 remember being taken to the hospital in severe shock. 317 00:15:33,083 --> 00:15:34,173 Kleiner Rubin: I remember the cold 318 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:36,230 and going into the ambulance, 319 00:15:36,266 --> 00:15:40,176 and it's, like, something I won't forget. 320 00:15:40,216 --> 00:15:42,376 McCain: Yeah. A police officer wanted me to escort him 321 00:15:42,416 --> 00:15:44,216 to various rooms in the house 322 00:15:44,250 --> 00:15:47,120 to see if an intruder was still in the house. 323 00:15:47,150 --> 00:15:49,200 But the killer wasn't done. 324 00:15:49,233 --> 00:15:53,103 Katsaris: While all these police officers are all over this area, 325 00:15:53,133 --> 00:15:58,403 we got a report of loud noises 4 1/2, 5 blocks away. 326 00:15:58,433 --> 00:16:03,123 I sent an investigator and found that we had another victim 327 00:16:03,150 --> 00:16:05,350 who had been brutally beaten. 328 00:16:05,383 --> 00:16:08,223 Reporter: A short time later, the killer struck again, 329 00:16:08,250 --> 00:16:11,470 where he severely injured Cheryl Ann Thomas. 330 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:15,400 Thomas: I had a very severe head injury. 331 00:16:15,433 --> 00:16:18,323 I was unconscious or semiconscious. 332 00:16:18,350 --> 00:16:19,450 I had two neighbors. 333 00:16:19,483 --> 00:16:22,483 They heard pounding kind of sound, 334 00:16:23,016 --> 00:16:26,326 and they heard moaning, and it frightened them so much 335 00:16:26,366 --> 00:16:29,196 that they decided to call the police. 336 00:16:29,233 --> 00:16:31,403 Katsaris: I knew this person had to be caught. 337 00:16:31,433 --> 00:16:35,003 We had someone who was more than dangerous. 338 00:16:35,033 --> 00:16:37,473 We've got a person on a rage. 339 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:41,470 Everyone's very nervous, just on pins and needles. 340 00:16:42,016 --> 00:16:45,166 She saw the man walking down the stairway. 341 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:47,020 There was blood everywhere. 342 00:16:47,050 --> 00:16:49,220 Man: They were calling him a raging animal. 343 00:16:55,166 --> 00:16:57,126 [ Siren wails ] 344 00:16:57,166 --> 00:17:05,116 ♪♪ 345 00:17:05,150 --> 00:17:08,300 Chandler: I woke up, and I knew I was in a hospital. 346 00:17:08,333 --> 00:17:10,053 My family was there, 347 00:17:10,083 --> 00:17:12,173 and there was kind of a lull in the conversation, 348 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:14,370 and I said, "Well, why don't we turn on the TV?" 349 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:16,300 And my father said, "Well, before we do, 350 00:17:16,333 --> 00:17:18,153 there's something I need to tell you." 351 00:17:18,183 --> 00:17:19,483 And that's how I learned what had happened. 352 00:17:20,016 --> 00:17:21,246 Reporter: Two Florida State sorority sisters 353 00:17:21,283 --> 00:17:23,453 were strangled to death and three others brutally beaten 354 00:17:23,483 --> 00:17:27,133 with a club the morning of January 15th, 1978. 355 00:17:27,166 --> 00:17:29,166 Someone had come into the Chi O 356 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:32,200 and attacked two of my sorority sisters, 357 00:17:32,233 --> 00:17:36,453 attacked me and Karen, and then left the sorority. 358 00:17:36,483 --> 00:17:38,153 Reporter: The women who were murdered were 359 00:17:38,183 --> 00:17:41,053 21-year-old Margaret Bowman and 20-year-old Lisa Levy. 360 00:17:41,083 --> 00:17:48,273 My family has lived with horror, sorrow, and pain. 361 00:17:48,300 --> 00:17:51,280 It's an emotional pain so deep it becomes physical. 362 00:17:53,450 --> 00:17:57,330 McCain: Margaret was perhaps our most stylish sister -- 363 00:17:57,366 --> 00:17:59,416 vivacious, had a lot of personality. 364 00:17:59,450 --> 00:18:01,320 Lisa was just a ball of fire, 365 00:18:01,350 --> 00:18:03,180 just a lot of fun, a lot of energy, 366 00:18:03,216 --> 00:18:05,116 and I just loved her instantly. 367 00:18:05,150 --> 00:18:07,020 They were outstanding women, 368 00:18:07,050 --> 00:18:10,370 outstanding young women with a huge life in front of them. 369 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:14,020 Police were baffled, calling it the work of a deranged murderer. 370 00:18:14,050 --> 00:18:15,480 They were calling him a raging animal 371 00:18:16,016 --> 00:18:18,026 because of the way he'd gone down 372 00:18:18,066 --> 00:18:21,166 around the corner and attacked another woman in a duplex. 373 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:24,480 Thomas: He had pushed a chair under my front door, 374 00:18:25,016 --> 00:18:28,046 so they had to kick it in to be able to go in, 375 00:18:28,083 --> 00:18:30,383 and then that's where they found me in my bedroom. 376 00:18:30,416 --> 00:18:35,346 I couldn't imagine why it had happened or who had done it. 377 00:18:35,383 --> 00:18:38,323 Reporter: None of the three surviving girls remember their attacker, 378 00:18:38,350 --> 00:18:40,450 and no one has been charged with the murders. 379 00:18:40,483 --> 00:18:42,223 Everyone was very nervous. 380 00:18:42,250 --> 00:18:45,080 There was a run on every hardware store in town. 381 00:18:45,116 --> 00:18:46,366 People were buying dead bolts. 382 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:48,250 They were buying chains. 383 00:18:48,283 --> 00:18:50,383 Nobody knew what had happened, who had done it. 384 00:18:50,416 --> 00:18:53,116 Many of us were not allowed to attend the funeral, 385 00:18:53,150 --> 00:18:56,330 thinking that the assailant might be in the services. 386 00:18:56,366 --> 00:18:58,016 There was a haunting scene 387 00:18:58,050 --> 00:19:01,270 that I remember vividly of a young woman looking out, 388 00:19:01,300 --> 00:19:04,050 looking distraught at the Chi O house, 389 00:19:04,083 --> 00:19:06,333 with the curtains kind of drawn around her. 390 00:19:06,366 --> 00:19:10,016 It was just sad -- a real, you know, real tragedy. 391 00:19:12,450 --> 00:19:16,000 It's been four days since the FSU murders occurred. 392 00:19:16,033 --> 00:19:17,303 Well over 200 calls a day 393 00:19:17,333 --> 00:19:21,073 are coming into the coed murder command center set up by police, 394 00:19:21,100 --> 00:19:23,370 but so far they have no definite leads. 395 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:26,070 Law enforcement was working in the dark. 396 00:19:26,100 --> 00:19:28,430 They were conducting neighborhood-by-neighborhood 397 00:19:28,466 --> 00:19:31,246 canvassing, trying to locate suspects. 398 00:19:31,283 --> 00:19:34,253 They were also asking the public to call in 399 00:19:34,283 --> 00:19:36,383 if they saw any suspicious persons. 400 00:19:36,416 --> 00:19:39,176 Thomas: I was being questioned by the police, 401 00:19:39,216 --> 00:19:41,376 "Do you know anybody that would ever want 402 00:19:41,416 --> 00:19:43,316 to hurt you in that way?" 403 00:19:43,350 --> 00:19:47,230 They came and tried to hypnotize me. 404 00:19:47,266 --> 00:19:50,116 Kleiner Rubin: Where I was, what I did, did I see anybody? 405 00:19:50,150 --> 00:19:51,320 Did I see anyone outside? 406 00:19:51,350 --> 00:19:54,320 Did I see any cars outside that I remembered? 407 00:19:54,350 --> 00:19:57,250 Thomas: They were hoping I would remember something, 408 00:19:57,283 --> 00:20:00,003 and they were trying anything they could. 409 00:20:00,033 --> 00:20:02,283 Reporter: The reward is now up to $10,000, 410 00:20:02,316 --> 00:20:04,176 and the mood, both on campus 411 00:20:04,216 --> 00:20:06,166 and here in this usually peaceful city, 412 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:08,280 is still one of apprehension. 413 00:20:08,316 --> 00:20:09,446 We weren't allowed back in the house 414 00:20:09,483 --> 00:20:11,403 for the first week or so, and they were 415 00:20:11,433 --> 00:20:14,483 collecting evidence and fingerprint material. 416 00:20:15,016 --> 00:20:17,266 [ Sighs ] After I left the hospital, 417 00:20:17,300 --> 00:20:21,030 I had to go back to my room at the sorority house. 418 00:20:21,066 --> 00:20:22,326 There was blood everywhere. 419 00:20:22,366 --> 00:20:24,076 Chandler: And they wanted me to look in the room 420 00:20:24,116 --> 00:20:25,446 and see if I was missing anything. 421 00:20:25,483 --> 00:20:29,383 Sometimes mass murderers will take a souvenir. 422 00:20:29,416 --> 00:20:32,446 So I guess they were hoping, if they caught the person, 423 00:20:32,483 --> 00:20:34,333 that they would find some of those 424 00:20:34,366 --> 00:20:36,346 that they might be able to identify. 425 00:20:36,383 --> 00:20:38,373 Florida Department of Criminal Law Enforcement 426 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:40,300 Crime Lab experts are still busy 427 00:20:40,333 --> 00:20:42,333 sifting through and analyzing evidence 428 00:20:42,366 --> 00:20:44,426 that was collected from the Chi Omega house. 429 00:20:44,466 --> 00:20:48,276 You're looking for any evidence, any debris that is found, 430 00:20:48,316 --> 00:20:50,316 or you're looking for the kind of murder weapon 431 00:20:50,350 --> 00:20:52,270 that may have been involved. 432 00:20:52,300 --> 00:20:54,320 We wanted to know what kind of weapon was used. 433 00:20:54,350 --> 00:20:56,470 We found bark. 434 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:59,270 Anderson: Looked like sawdust taken from the scalp 435 00:20:59,300 --> 00:21:03,120 of one of the young ladies that had been killed -- 436 00:21:03,150 --> 00:21:07,250 probably firewood within the Chi Omega house 437 00:21:07,283 --> 00:21:09,223 to use as a bludgeon. 438 00:21:09,250 --> 00:21:11,470 The speculation -- well, it really wasn't speculation -- 439 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:13,300 that he probably picked up some -- 440 00:21:13,333 --> 00:21:15,153 a branch from some firewood. 441 00:21:15,183 --> 00:21:18,333 Now, if we had found that limb, we would have found blood. 442 00:21:18,366 --> 00:21:20,416 We would have found hair. We would have found tissues. 443 00:21:20,450 --> 00:21:23,120 But it was never found. 444 00:21:23,150 --> 00:21:28,150 Probably he discarded that piece of wood on a woodpile, 445 00:21:28,183 --> 00:21:31,453 and very well it was consumed as a part of a fire 446 00:21:31,483 --> 00:21:34,253 in one of the sorority or fraternity houses. 447 00:21:36,366 --> 00:21:40,126 Details trickled out, few and far between, 448 00:21:40,166 --> 00:21:41,466 but details trickled out. 449 00:21:42,016 --> 00:21:44,366 One of the sorority sisters came home late, 450 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:48,030 when she saw the man walking down the stairway 451 00:21:48,066 --> 00:21:51,026 kind of looking as he was coming down, 452 00:21:51,066 --> 00:21:52,326 but did not see her. 453 00:21:52,366 --> 00:21:53,416 It's dark. 454 00:21:53,450 --> 00:21:56,180 He's got a hat on down over his ears. 455 00:21:56,216 --> 00:21:57,996 That was basically it. 456 00:21:58,033 --> 00:22:01,153 The fear -- people were very, very panicked. 457 00:22:01,183 --> 00:22:03,273 They were looking for someone to be arrested, 458 00:22:03,300 --> 00:22:07,030 and there was tremendous pressure on law enforcement 459 00:22:07,066 --> 00:22:10,076 to get something done. 460 00:22:10,116 --> 00:22:12,476 Jordan: The Chi Omega killings made national news. 461 00:22:13,016 --> 00:22:14,366 The investigators in Washington State 462 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:18,230 thought this had to be the work of Ted Bundy. 463 00:22:18,266 --> 00:22:21,316 He was still their prime suspect in the murders 464 00:22:21,350 --> 00:22:25,030 of several college-age women in 1974. 465 00:22:25,066 --> 00:22:27,466 Reporter: Bundy was a psychology major at the University of Washington 466 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:32,120 before starting law school in September 1974 in Utah. 467 00:22:32,150 --> 00:22:34,370 The 31-year-old Tacoma man is still the center 468 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:36,420 of great interest here in King County. 469 00:22:36,450 --> 00:22:41,200 We were very much focused on the killings in Florida 470 00:22:41,233 --> 00:22:45,183 because we felt that there was a strong possibility 471 00:22:45,216 --> 00:22:48,316 that it was Ted, and we figured that he would go 472 00:22:48,350 --> 00:22:51,280 to another place with universities 473 00:22:51,316 --> 00:22:53,426 and colleges where he could blend in 474 00:22:53,466 --> 00:22:56,296 because he always was able to blend in 475 00:22:56,333 --> 00:22:59,273 and draw no suspicion toward himself. 476 00:22:59,300 --> 00:23:01,350 You understand, Bundy never operated 477 00:23:01,383 --> 00:23:02,453 east of the Mississippi. 478 00:23:02,483 --> 00:23:04,073 He was one of, you know, 479 00:23:04,100 --> 00:23:06,220 literally hundreds of possible suspects. 480 00:23:06,250 --> 00:23:09,250 Vasilinda: Little did they know, Ted Bundy had been living here, 481 00:23:09,283 --> 00:23:11,373 walking around this college campus 482 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:15,250 and remaining very undercover. 483 00:23:15,283 --> 00:23:19,003 On February 9th, about 100 miles east of Tallahassee, 484 00:23:19,033 --> 00:23:21,233 a middle school student had gone missing. 485 00:23:21,266 --> 00:23:23,196 Reporter: Kim Leach was only 12 years old 486 00:23:23,233 --> 00:23:25,083 when she was abducted from her school. 487 00:23:25,116 --> 00:23:30,296 It was an "aha!" moment that, okay, these may be connected. 488 00:23:35,050 --> 00:23:37,220 Believe me. I've grown in the past year, 489 00:23:37,250 --> 00:23:40,030 and I've learned a lot of things about myself in the past year. 490 00:23:40,066 --> 00:23:41,216 Sure, I get angry. 491 00:23:41,250 --> 00:23:43,420 I get very, very angry and indignant. 492 00:23:43,450 --> 00:23:45,100 I don't like being treated like an animal, 493 00:23:45,133 --> 00:23:48,033 and I don't like people walking around and ogling me 494 00:23:48,066 --> 00:23:53,246 like I'm some sort of weirdo because I'm not, you know? 495 00:23:53,283 --> 00:23:56,183 I'm perfectly happy with the person I am 496 00:23:56,216 --> 00:23:58,366 and I've always been. 497 00:23:58,400 --> 00:23:59,470 Welcome back to "How It Really Happened." 498 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:01,180 I'm Hill Harper. 499 00:24:01,216 --> 00:24:04,226 The brutal attacks on five women at Florida State University 500 00:24:04,266 --> 00:24:06,176 shocked the nation. 501 00:24:06,216 --> 00:24:09,326 Two women were dead and three others badly beaten. 502 00:24:09,366 --> 00:24:11,476 Authorities in Tallahassee were searching for any clue 503 00:24:12,016 --> 00:24:13,446 that could lead them to the killer, 504 00:24:13,483 --> 00:24:17,023 but a month after the attacks, they were still coming up empty. 505 00:24:17,050 --> 00:24:20,350 Then, 200 miles away, a simple traffic stop 506 00:24:20,383 --> 00:24:23,073 would bring a potential suspect into focus. 507 00:24:23,100 --> 00:24:28,350 ♪♪ 508 00:24:28,383 --> 00:24:30,273 Lee: I was patrolling west side of town, 509 00:24:30,300 --> 00:24:33,270 and it was noted that it was a suspicious vehicle 510 00:24:33,300 --> 00:24:34,450 behind a building. 511 00:24:34,483 --> 00:24:37,273 A police officer observed a Volkswagen. 512 00:24:37,300 --> 00:24:40,150 Lee: As a matter of routine, I was running a check on the tag 513 00:24:40,183 --> 00:24:42,123 when it did come back as a stolen vehicle. 514 00:24:42,150 --> 00:24:45,170 Katsaris: The car came back stolen from Tallahassee. 515 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,430 Lee: At this time, the traffic stop was made. 516 00:24:47,466 --> 00:24:49,276 While I was placing the handcuffs on him, 517 00:24:49,316 --> 00:24:50,446 he kicked my feet out from under me 518 00:24:50,483 --> 00:24:52,453 and struck me with a handcuff 519 00:24:52,483 --> 00:24:54,453 that had been placed on one wrist 520 00:24:54,483 --> 00:24:56,273 and, of course, knocked me off my feet. 521 00:24:56,300 --> 00:24:58,130 And that's when it started. 522 00:24:58,166 --> 00:24:59,426 Territo: When the officer got to him, 523 00:24:59,466 --> 00:25:01,366 he jumped up, started fighting the officer, 524 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:04,270 and the officer overpowered him, took him into custody. 525 00:25:04,300 --> 00:25:07,050 Reporter: When he was arrested shortly after midnight on Wednesday, 526 00:25:07,083 --> 00:25:09,383 he was just considered a belligerent speeder. 527 00:25:09,416 --> 00:25:12,396 He first identified himself as an FSU graduate student. 528 00:25:12,433 --> 00:25:15,423 Late Thursday, however, a bizarre story began unfolding. 529 00:25:15,450 --> 00:25:21,230 They had found somebody that they thought might be connected, 530 00:25:21,266 --> 00:25:23,166 but they didn't know who it was. 531 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,000 Katsaris: He gave a name. 532 00:25:25,033 --> 00:25:26,173 The name was an athlete 533 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:29,300 that was well known at Florida State University. 534 00:25:29,333 --> 00:25:31,273 He identified himself as that person 535 00:25:31,300 --> 00:25:34,050 and actually looked a little bit like him. 536 00:25:34,083 --> 00:25:36,123 As a result of that, of course, 537 00:25:36,150 --> 00:25:41,150 it was put out that this star athlete from Florida State 538 00:25:41,183 --> 00:25:43,373 was arrested in Pensacola, 539 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:46,370 whereupon we hear from him and says, 540 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,370 "Uh, I'm not in Pensacola." 541 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,050 "I don't know who it is you got out there. 542 00:25:50,083 --> 00:25:51,173 It's not me." 543 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,430 Katsaris: We now knew that we weren't dealing 544 00:25:53,466 --> 00:25:57,046 with the person we thought. 545 00:25:57,083 --> 00:25:58,403 Reporter: Who is this man? 546 00:25:58,433 --> 00:26:01,023 He refused to give his name to authorities 547 00:26:01,050 --> 00:26:03,050 and then told his arresting officer 548 00:26:03,083 --> 00:26:06,183 that he would probably get a promotion for nabbing him. 549 00:26:06,216 --> 00:26:09,216 Jordan: Police now had an unknown person in custody, 550 00:26:09,250 --> 00:26:11,300 and they were calling him "the mystery man" 551 00:26:11,333 --> 00:26:13,133 in the Pensacola prison. 552 00:26:13,166 --> 00:26:15,276 And then they ran his fingerprints. 553 00:26:15,316 --> 00:26:19,176 Katsaris: At the time, fingerprints were much slower than they are now. 554 00:26:19,216 --> 00:26:20,366 They had to be taken. 555 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:22,050 They had to be submitted. 556 00:26:22,083 --> 00:26:25,123 They had to be cross-referenced by the FBI. 557 00:26:25,150 --> 00:26:28,230 It was a slower paper process. 558 00:26:28,266 --> 00:26:31,116 Today, that would be instantly done. 559 00:26:31,150 --> 00:26:34,080 Reporter: Only late last night, following FBI fingerprint identification, 560 00:26:34,116 --> 00:26:36,116 did Pensacola police learn they had captured 561 00:26:36,150 --> 00:26:38,370 one of the most wanted and, according to the FBI, 562 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:41,150 most dangerous criminals in the country -- 563 00:26:41,183 --> 00:26:44,433 Theodore Robert Bundy, 31 years of age, 564 00:26:44,466 --> 00:26:47,326 convicted kidnapper, escapee from prison, 565 00:26:47,366 --> 00:26:49,116 suspected murderer, 566 00:26:49,150 --> 00:26:53,030 killings in Colorado, Utah, Oregon, and Washington, 567 00:26:53,066 --> 00:26:54,476 and now he is being questioned in connection 568 00:26:55,016 --> 00:26:56,466 with two murders at a sorority house 569 00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,120 at Florida State University in Tallahassee. 570 00:26:59,150 --> 00:27:01,350 Those murders occurred just 15 days 571 00:27:01,383 --> 00:27:04,223 after Bundy's New Year's Eve escape from Colorado. 572 00:27:04,250 --> 00:27:05,420 He was really under the radar, 573 00:27:05,450 --> 00:27:07,400 and nobody recognized him in Florida. 574 00:27:07,433 --> 00:27:09,353 The night his identity was revealed, 575 00:27:09,383 --> 00:27:12,023 Ted called his girlfriend, Liz Kendall, 576 00:27:12,050 --> 00:27:14,120 and she recounted that telephone conversation 577 00:27:14,150 --> 00:27:16,300 with the Washington State investigators. 578 00:27:34,183 --> 00:27:36,173 It's that brick-in-the-face moment when you're like, 579 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,480 "God. I've been so wrong about him." 580 00:27:41,316 --> 00:27:42,376 Vasilinda: I think what shocked everybody 581 00:27:42,416 --> 00:27:45,026 was he was the mysterious stranger. 582 00:27:45,066 --> 00:27:48,046 He was not a grotesque human being. 583 00:27:48,083 --> 00:27:51,373 He was charming, in fact, and that was big news. 584 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,200 Reporter: Bundy was on the FBI's 10-most-wanted list, 585 00:27:54,233 --> 00:27:56,303 and it was learned he was wanted for questioning 586 00:27:56,333 --> 00:27:58,483 in as many as 36 sex murders. 587 00:27:59,016 --> 00:28:01,046 Authorities also say they can place Bundy 588 00:28:01,083 --> 00:28:03,103 in Tallahassee in January. 589 00:28:03,133 --> 00:28:05,373 Bundy was living right up the street on College Avenue. 590 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:09,370 Not too far from the university, not too far from Chi Omega. 591 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:11,200 Reporter: Bundy lived in this rooming house 592 00:28:11,233 --> 00:28:14,183 located less than a mile from the Chi Omega sorority. 593 00:28:14,216 --> 00:28:16,246 I interviewed all the people that lived in the doors 594 00:28:16,283 --> 00:28:18,453 next to him in the rooming house at the Oaks, 595 00:28:18,483 --> 00:28:21,283 and no one had anything bad to say of him. 596 00:28:21,316 --> 00:28:23,326 No one said they heard anything weird. 597 00:28:23,366 --> 00:28:28,296 He seemed very calm, and we had no reason to suspect 598 00:28:28,333 --> 00:28:29,333 that he could have done anything. 599 00:28:29,366 --> 00:28:32,176 He was polite, but very soft-spoken. 600 00:28:32,216 --> 00:28:34,996 He was a man of few words. 601 00:28:35,033 --> 00:28:38,383 You really had to say something to him to get a response. 602 00:28:38,416 --> 00:28:41,026 He looked very familiar to me. 603 00:28:41,066 --> 00:28:45,416 I swear it must have been him riding a bike by my house 604 00:28:45,450 --> 00:28:47,400 that I would see coming and going to my car, 605 00:28:47,433 --> 00:28:50,103 going to classes. 606 00:28:50,133 --> 00:28:53,183 I worked in the law library, and he had attended classes 607 00:28:53,216 --> 00:28:55,196 so frequently that many of the professors thought 608 00:28:55,233 --> 00:28:57,253 he was an actually enrolled student. 609 00:28:59,466 --> 00:29:02,116 Reporter: Theodore Bundy has become a prime suspect 610 00:29:02,150 --> 00:29:05,020 in the Chi Omega sorority house murders. 611 00:29:05,050 --> 00:29:06,470 Jordan: Ted Bundy's arrest made headlines, 612 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,470 and it caught the eye of several people in Lake City, Florida, 613 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:13,100 about 100 miles east of Tallahassee. 614 00:29:13,133 --> 00:29:15,083 There, on February 9th, 615 00:29:15,116 --> 00:29:17,296 a middle school student named Kimberly Leach 616 00:29:17,333 --> 00:29:20,203 had gone missing. 617 00:29:20,233 --> 00:29:22,153 Kim Leach was only 12 years old 618 00:29:22,183 --> 00:29:23,453 when she was abducted from her school. 619 00:29:23,483 --> 00:29:30,403 It was an "aha!" moment that, okay, these may be connected. 620 00:29:30,433 --> 00:29:33,433 And all we got to do now is prove this is the guy. 621 00:29:33,466 --> 00:29:35,146 It's Bundy. 622 00:29:35,183 --> 00:29:38,473 Katsaris: He was a manipulator of a superior kind. 623 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,120 He would tell me all the time, 624 00:29:41,150 --> 00:29:46,370 "Ken, the evidence was there. You just couldn't find it." 625 00:29:53,066 --> 00:29:56,226 Security is extremely tight here at the Pensacola City Jail. 626 00:29:56,266 --> 00:29:58,016 On the second floor of this building, 627 00:29:58,050 --> 00:30:00,420 Ted Bundy is under constant guard. 628 00:30:00,450 --> 00:30:02,080 McCain: We heard that he had been arrested 629 00:30:02,116 --> 00:30:06,196 and that he was under suspicion for the murders 630 00:30:06,233 --> 00:30:07,473 and the assault on Cheryl. 631 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:09,350 Reporter: He became a prime suspect after 632 00:30:09,383 --> 00:30:13,373 he was arrested in Pensacola driving a stolen Tallahassee car 633 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:16,250 and carrying 21 stolen credit cards, 634 00:30:16,283 --> 00:30:18,473 many of which belonged to FSU coeds. 635 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:20,420 There was still this apprehension of, 636 00:30:20,450 --> 00:30:22,320 is this the right person? 637 00:30:25,066 --> 00:30:27,076 Jordan: The ages and appearances of these women 638 00:30:27,116 --> 00:30:30,346 was very similar to Ted Bundy's other alleged victims, 639 00:30:30,383 --> 00:30:33,003 but the crime itself was different. 640 00:30:33,033 --> 00:30:34,473 It just wasn't his typical M.O. 641 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:38,270 Simpson: Ted's M.O. was to abduct young women 642 00:30:38,300 --> 00:30:41,280 by getting them to accompany him to a vehicle. 643 00:30:41,316 --> 00:30:43,196 That's completely different from what happened 644 00:30:43,233 --> 00:30:44,433 at the Chi Omega house. 645 00:30:44,466 --> 00:30:49,146 We didn't have any evidence that this person, Ted Bundy, 646 00:30:49,183 --> 00:30:53,183 actually went into a home 647 00:30:53,216 --> 00:30:57,076 and killed and left the bodies. 648 00:30:57,116 --> 00:30:59,146 There's still a lot of evidence yet to be evaluated, 649 00:30:59,183 --> 00:31:02,373 and there's no link yet between he or the murder scenes. 650 00:31:07,183 --> 00:31:09,433 Simpson: And then Kimberly Leach was abducted 651 00:31:09,466 --> 00:31:13,326 from her junior high school there in Lake City. 652 00:31:13,366 --> 00:31:18,076 We obviously now had a different set of circumstances again. 653 00:31:20,233 --> 00:31:23,453 Dekle: My wife had just given birth to our third child, 654 00:31:23,483 --> 00:31:27,303 and I was headed to the hospital to visit, 655 00:31:27,333 --> 00:31:30,123 and I heard on the radio an announcement 656 00:31:30,150 --> 00:31:31,250 that a little girl had disappeared 657 00:31:31,283 --> 00:31:33,023 from Lake City Junior High. 658 00:31:33,050 --> 00:31:35,000 Reporter: February 9th, Kimberly Leach left 659 00:31:35,033 --> 00:31:37,283 Lake City Junior High for the last time. 660 00:31:37,316 --> 00:31:40,196 Simpson: She was a pretty little 12-year-old girl 661 00:31:40,233 --> 00:31:45,183 who had just been elected to the Valentine court at her school, 662 00:31:45,216 --> 00:31:47,426 and on the very afternoon she got kidnapped 663 00:31:47,466 --> 00:31:52,146 was going to go pick out a ball gown to wear to the ball. 664 00:31:52,183 --> 00:31:54,033 Reporter: Patty Kalish, a classmate, 665 00:31:54,066 --> 00:31:56,416 was one of the last people to see Kim Leach alive, 666 00:31:56,450 --> 00:31:59,080 watching as she went out the school's back door 667 00:31:59,116 --> 00:32:01,476 to the gym, where Kim had left her purse. 668 00:32:02,016 --> 00:32:03,466 But instead of taking the short route, 669 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:07,030 Kim went around to the front, where she was abducted. 670 00:32:07,066 --> 00:32:09,126 Woman: To actually have a 12-year-old child 671 00:32:09,166 --> 00:32:11,276 taken from our community -- 672 00:32:11,316 --> 00:32:15,016 just grabbed her up and took her away -- 673 00:32:15,050 --> 00:32:18,200 it was just shock and disbelief. 674 00:32:18,233 --> 00:32:20,333 You can't imagine anything more disquieting 675 00:32:20,366 --> 00:32:24,416 for a small, sleepy community like Lake City, Florida. 676 00:32:24,450 --> 00:32:28,400 It was very traumatic and caused a massive manhunt. 677 00:32:28,433 --> 00:32:32,353 They turned every stone possible in hopes of finding her. 678 00:32:32,383 --> 00:32:37,083 When the connection was made that Bundy had been in Lake City 679 00:32:37,116 --> 00:32:39,476 the night before Kim went missing, 680 00:32:40,016 --> 00:32:44,416 it was like a bloody hindquarter into a tank of sharks. 681 00:32:44,450 --> 00:32:46,330 Two and two added up to four, 682 00:32:46,366 --> 00:32:48,426 and Ted looked like he could be our guy. 683 00:32:48,466 --> 00:32:53,026 Katsaris: He always would involve several different 684 00:32:53,066 --> 00:32:55,996 law enforcement jurisdictions in a crime -- 685 00:32:56,033 --> 00:32:57,173 where he picked the girl up, 686 00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:00,000 where he would abandon her, where he would kill her, 687 00:33:00,033 --> 00:33:02,253 where he would, you know, bury them. 688 00:33:02,283 --> 00:33:05,033 He really made a lot of confusion, 689 00:33:05,066 --> 00:33:06,176 and they weren't found 690 00:33:06,216 --> 00:33:10,416 until the evidence was no longer available. 691 00:33:10,450 --> 00:33:12,370 Sullivan: As a planner of murder, 692 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,230 he didn't leave any stone unturned. 693 00:33:14,266 --> 00:33:16,346 It was like -- it was, like, choreographed, 694 00:33:16,383 --> 00:33:18,353 so he was very difficult to track down. 695 00:33:18,383 --> 00:33:22,123 I sent investigators over to talk to him. 696 00:33:22,150 --> 00:33:24,270 They were hoping for a confession. 697 00:33:24,300 --> 00:33:26,130 Carlisle: They were interrogating him. 698 00:33:26,166 --> 00:33:31,116 I got a call, said that he's very distraught. 699 00:33:31,150 --> 00:33:34,130 It looks like he's on the verge of confessing. 700 00:33:34,166 --> 00:33:37,216 Shortly after that, he pulled himself together. 701 00:33:37,250 --> 00:33:39,050 And I'll tell you, as long as they attempt 702 00:33:39,083 --> 00:33:41,203 to keep their heads in the sand about me, 703 00:33:41,233 --> 00:33:43,283 there's gonna be people turning up in canyons 704 00:33:43,316 --> 00:33:47,146 because the police there aren't willing to accept 705 00:33:47,183 --> 00:33:48,283 what I think they know, 706 00:33:48,316 --> 00:33:51,126 and they know that I didn't do these things. 707 00:33:53,233 --> 00:33:56,033 And I met him at the Leon County Jail 708 00:33:56,066 --> 00:33:57,996 when a group of officers went over there 709 00:33:58,033 --> 00:33:59,183 to try to interview him. 710 00:33:59,216 --> 00:34:01,096 Bundy said, "Well, you know, I really don't have 711 00:34:01,133 --> 00:34:02,253 anything to say to y'all." 712 00:34:02,283 --> 00:34:04,133 And I said, "Well, thank you very much," and we left. 713 00:34:04,166 --> 00:34:07,996 He was a manipulator of a superior kind. 714 00:34:08,033 --> 00:34:11,333 He started playing games with these investigators. 715 00:34:11,366 --> 00:34:14,296 They were like pawns that he would move around. 716 00:34:14,333 --> 00:34:15,433 He would tell them, 717 00:34:15,466 --> 00:34:17,366 "I'm not gonna talk during the daytime." 718 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,120 Okay. I said, "We'll talk at night." 719 00:34:20,150 --> 00:34:21,280 Then they called me up and said, 720 00:34:21,316 --> 00:34:24,246 "Sheriff, he won't talk unless he's near a window 721 00:34:24,283 --> 00:34:26,233 where he can see the full moon." 722 00:34:26,266 --> 00:34:28,096 Man: Have you been able to pick up anything, 723 00:34:28,133 --> 00:34:30,183 any slips at all, that he might have made 724 00:34:30,216 --> 00:34:32,066 that might have linked him to anything 725 00:34:32,100 --> 00:34:33,220 that he's charged with? 726 00:34:33,250 --> 00:34:36,180 No, he's a very careful thinker, 727 00:34:36,216 --> 00:34:37,296 and from what I understand, 728 00:34:37,333 --> 00:34:39,223 from the men that have been questioning him, 729 00:34:39,250 --> 00:34:41,420 you know, he says what he wants to, 730 00:34:41,450 --> 00:34:45,030 and he's very careful about how he says it. 731 00:34:45,066 --> 00:34:48,176 He wasn't admitting to being involved or anything. 732 00:34:48,216 --> 00:34:49,416 It was like a challenge. 733 00:34:49,450 --> 00:34:52,020 He would tell me all the time, 734 00:34:52,050 --> 00:34:58,250 "Ken, the evidence was there. You just couldn't find it." 735 00:34:58,283 --> 00:35:00,183 And he didn't think we were smart enough 736 00:35:00,216 --> 00:35:02,296 to know anything about that. 737 00:35:02,333 --> 00:35:05,253 Reporter: So far, several hundred pieces of evidence have been analyzed 738 00:35:05,283 --> 00:35:08,053 by the state's Department of Criminal Law Enforcement. 739 00:35:08,083 --> 00:35:09,483 Katsaris: And then it all fell into place. 740 00:35:10,016 --> 00:35:12,026 It just went boom, boom, boom. 741 00:35:12,066 --> 00:35:14,046 If it turns out we made a mistake, 742 00:35:14,083 --> 00:35:15,173 that case is over with. 743 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,030 We're finished. 744 00:35:20,033 --> 00:35:21,353 Do you know something? 745 00:35:21,383 --> 00:35:24,223 People say, "Ted Bundy didn't show any emotion. 746 00:35:24,250 --> 00:35:25,420 There must be something in there." 747 00:35:25,450 --> 00:35:27,470 I showed emotion. You know what people said? 748 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:31,070 "See? He really can get violent and angry." 749 00:35:33,100 --> 00:35:35,100 Jordan: Ted Bundy was under arrest, 750 00:35:35,133 --> 00:35:37,053 suspected in both the brutal killings 751 00:35:37,083 --> 00:35:38,423 of the two sorority sisters, 752 00:35:38,450 --> 00:35:42,080 as well as the middle school student Kimberly Leach. 753 00:35:42,116 --> 00:35:44,476 Police in both jurisdictions were very busy 754 00:35:45,016 --> 00:35:47,176 gathering the evidence that they needed to build these cases. 755 00:35:47,216 --> 00:35:49,996 Katsaris: There was a mountain of evidence that we collected. 756 00:35:50,033 --> 00:35:52,053 Basically, you're taking everything 757 00:35:52,083 --> 00:35:55,383 because you don't know what is going to be important. 758 00:35:55,416 --> 00:35:58,416 Reporter: Technicians there spent over 1,600 man-hours 759 00:35:58,450 --> 00:36:00,170 poring over teeth impressions, 760 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,380 blood samples, clothing, and other articles. 761 00:36:02,416 --> 00:36:04,146 Katsaris: We were looking for fingerprints. 762 00:36:04,183 --> 00:36:06,323 We certainly found a lot of fingerprints, 763 00:36:06,350 --> 00:36:08,380 but we did not find his. 764 00:36:08,416 --> 00:36:11,176 Not only did we not have Mr. Bundy's fingerprints 765 00:36:11,216 --> 00:36:14,226 in the crime scenes, but Mr. Bundy lived 766 00:36:14,266 --> 00:36:17,026 at a rooming house here in Tallahassee. 767 00:36:17,066 --> 00:36:19,326 The room had been wiped clean. 768 00:36:19,366 --> 00:36:21,376 Territo: We really had no physical evidence 769 00:36:21,416 --> 00:36:23,126 that would have linked Bundy 770 00:36:23,166 --> 00:36:26,346 to these specific crimes at that time. 771 00:36:26,383 --> 00:36:28,273 Reporter: The main evidence linking him with these crimes 772 00:36:28,300 --> 00:36:30,030 appears to be an eyewitness who says 773 00:36:30,066 --> 00:36:31,996 she thinks she can identify the killer. 774 00:36:32,033 --> 00:36:33,203 We had an eyewitness. 775 00:36:33,233 --> 00:36:36,353 One of the Chi Omega girls had come in late from a date, 776 00:36:36,383 --> 00:36:40,103 and she actually saw a man leaving the sorority house. 777 00:36:40,133 --> 00:36:42,323 Lloyd: She was not such a strong witness 778 00:36:42,350 --> 00:36:44,280 'cause she saw this sketchy person 779 00:36:44,316 --> 00:36:45,996 that sort of looked like Bundy, 780 00:36:46,033 --> 00:36:49,123 but then along came something I had never heard of before. 781 00:36:49,150 --> 00:36:51,180 Reporter: For the state, perhaps the single most important 782 00:36:51,216 --> 00:36:54,196 piece of evidence linking Bundy to the crimes is bite marks -- 783 00:36:54,233 --> 00:36:56,283 the bite marks found on murdered coeds. 784 00:36:56,316 --> 00:37:00,076 Katsaris: There was injury on both of the girls from biting. 785 00:37:00,116 --> 00:37:04,146 One of them had injurious biting. 786 00:37:04,183 --> 00:37:08,223 The other had almost like a perfect signature. 787 00:37:08,250 --> 00:37:10,250 Reporter: The prosecution claims that Bundy's teeth 788 00:37:10,283 --> 00:37:12,133 matched those marks. 789 00:37:12,166 --> 00:37:14,176 To prove that, they called in Miami dental expert 790 00:37:14,216 --> 00:37:15,466 Dr. Richard Souviron. 791 00:37:16,016 --> 00:37:18,376 Whoever left that bite had crooked teeth. 792 00:37:18,416 --> 00:37:20,996 In the upper jaw, there were chips 793 00:37:21,033 --> 00:37:23,283 in his front teeth that left scratch marks, 794 00:37:23,316 --> 00:37:27,166 and if you combine the number of points in the lower jaw 795 00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:30,400 that were consistent with the scratches in the upper, 796 00:37:30,433 --> 00:37:32,433 it would be pretty tough to find somebody else 797 00:37:32,466 --> 00:37:35,116 that had marks like that. 798 00:37:35,150 --> 00:37:37,480 Territo: There really wasn't, except for the bite marks, 799 00:37:38,016 --> 00:37:42,246 the kind of definitive physical evidence that we hope we had. 800 00:37:42,283 --> 00:37:44,433 Reporter: The new field, known as forensic odontology, 801 00:37:44,466 --> 00:37:47,226 is only allowed as evidence in court in five states, 802 00:37:47,266 --> 00:37:48,416 one of them being Florida. 803 00:37:48,450 --> 00:37:50,420 Territo: Today, that would have been very different 804 00:37:50,450 --> 00:37:53,430 because those bite marks would have been swabbed for saliva. 805 00:37:53,466 --> 00:37:55,126 We would have gotten DNA. 806 00:37:55,166 --> 00:37:56,996 This happened in 1978. 807 00:37:57,033 --> 00:37:58,433 DNA probably didn't start becoming a factor 808 00:37:58,466 --> 00:38:01,426 till around '87 or '88 in the United States. 809 00:38:01,466 --> 00:38:05,146 The idea of matching a bite mark in somebody's flesh 810 00:38:05,183 --> 00:38:09,123 with somebody else's teeth was too extraordinary for words. 811 00:38:09,150 --> 00:38:12,000 The bite-mark evidence was certainly the most spectacular. 812 00:38:12,033 --> 00:38:14,123 I mean, it was eerie and weird 813 00:38:14,150 --> 00:38:16,080 because people were unfamiliar with it. 814 00:38:16,116 --> 00:38:19,196 Jordan: Because this field was so new and so unknown, 815 00:38:19,233 --> 00:38:21,423 the evidence they gathered had to be rock-solid 816 00:38:21,450 --> 00:38:23,130 and legally sound. 817 00:38:23,166 --> 00:38:26,166 So to get the match, they were going to need photographs 818 00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:28,150 and dental impressions of Ted Bundy's mouth. 819 00:38:28,183 --> 00:38:29,383 We wanted bite impressions 820 00:38:29,416 --> 00:38:34,216 because we had a photograph of the bite mark, 821 00:38:34,250 --> 00:38:37,180 and we wanted to compare them. 822 00:38:38,433 --> 00:38:41,073 Normally speaking, when you want some dental impressions, 823 00:38:41,100 --> 00:38:42,380 you go get a court order. 824 00:38:42,416 --> 00:38:44,426 We didn't want to get a court order because then it would mean 825 00:38:44,466 --> 00:38:46,366 we had to confer with his lawyer. 826 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,450 Ted would have been given kind of a heads-up about this. 827 00:38:49,483 --> 00:38:51,403 We were concerned that he might damage his teeth. 828 00:38:51,433 --> 00:38:55,303 Katsaris: He was in a very secure cell that had a lot of steel, 829 00:38:55,333 --> 00:38:58,123 so he could have easily chipped a tooth. 830 00:38:58,150 --> 00:39:01,350 One anomaly, one difference, 831 00:39:01,383 --> 00:39:04,333 one little chip that doesn't match, 832 00:39:04,366 --> 00:39:05,396 would throw it out. 833 00:39:05,433 --> 00:39:07,253 It would not be able to be used. 834 00:39:07,283 --> 00:39:09,353 We got a search warrant for his mouth. 835 00:39:09,383 --> 00:39:11,203 To our knowledge, up till then, no one had ever gotten 836 00:39:11,233 --> 00:39:13,153 a search warrant for somebody's mouth. 837 00:39:13,183 --> 00:39:14,433 Katsaris: Now, with a search warrant, 838 00:39:14,466 --> 00:39:18,176 you don't call up the person's attorney and say, 839 00:39:18,216 --> 00:39:20,126 "We're gonna be serving a search warrant." 840 00:39:20,166 --> 00:39:26,046 That's done by the police when the police are ready to do it. 841 00:39:26,083 --> 00:39:28,423 With the search warrant came an element of surprise. 842 00:39:28,450 --> 00:39:31,120 I don't think Bundy had any idea. 843 00:39:34,116 --> 00:39:37,476 One night, I went to his cell, and I said, 844 00:39:38,016 --> 00:39:40,176 "Mr. Bundy, you're coming with me." 845 00:39:40,216 --> 00:39:44,066 I took him, with a series of deputy escorts, 846 00:39:44,100 --> 00:39:46,050 to the dental office, 847 00:39:46,083 --> 00:39:50,003 and as we went up the back stairs after midnight, 848 00:39:50,033 --> 00:39:52,283 he noticed a lot of professional photographs 849 00:39:52,316 --> 00:39:55,426 lining the staircase, and he broke out in laughter. 850 00:39:55,466 --> 00:39:57,466 Territo: He thought he was going to a photo lab 851 00:39:58,000 --> 00:39:59,200 and he said, "I know where I'm going. 852 00:39:59,233 --> 00:40:00,373 You want to take a picture of me." 853 00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:02,080 Katsaris: Well, the dentist just happened 854 00:40:02,116 --> 00:40:04,416 to be interested in professional photos, 855 00:40:04,450 --> 00:40:08,150 and that was what decorated his back staircase. 856 00:40:08,183 --> 00:40:10,153 Territo: Once he got upstairs into the dentist's office, 857 00:40:10,183 --> 00:40:11,273 I was standing there. 858 00:40:11,300 --> 00:40:13,100 He started screaming for his lawyer. 859 00:40:13,133 --> 00:40:16,083 I believe he started to put it all together. 860 00:40:16,116 --> 00:40:19,196 The bite mark -- the evidence is there. 861 00:40:19,233 --> 00:40:23,033 Bundy was cuffed with his hands and his feet, 862 00:40:23,066 --> 00:40:24,366 so he was chained up pretty good. 863 00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:26,470 Katsaris: At that time, I read to him 864 00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:30,270 the complete search warrant for his mouth 865 00:40:30,300 --> 00:40:33,370 and the fact that the judge said we could use 866 00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:40,050 any and all reasonable force to retrieve those impressions. 867 00:40:40,083 --> 00:40:43,253 Ted Bundy looked at me and said, "Force?" 868 00:40:43,283 --> 00:40:46,183 He said, "Ken, come on, now. 869 00:40:46,216 --> 00:40:50,416 You know I'm not a violent person." 870 00:40:50,450 --> 00:40:54,050 He sat down in the chair, leaned back, 871 00:40:54,083 --> 00:40:57,253 opened his mouth, and it was over. 872 00:40:57,283 --> 00:41:00,073 I think he knew he was in trouble. 873 00:41:00,100 --> 00:41:04,050 Reporter: He is handsome, articulate, and has a magnetic appeal to women, 874 00:41:04,083 --> 00:41:06,033 and the state says he's a killer. 875 00:41:06,066 --> 00:41:09,396 There was quite a bit of turmoil and confusion. 876 00:41:09,433 --> 00:41:11,123 Will he be punished? 877 00:41:11,150 --> 00:41:13,220 He just doesn't look like the type to kill somebody. 878 00:41:13,250 --> 00:41:17,350 Looking him in the eyes was the first time that I felt, 879 00:41:17,383 --> 00:41:20,103 like, sick to my stomach. 880 00:41:20,133 --> 00:41:22,353 We think we've got a good case, but you never know. 881 00:41:22,383 --> 00:41:24,033 He could go free. 882 00:41:24,066 --> 00:41:27,116 And he was so haughty, so arrogant and thumbing his nose. 883 00:41:27,150 --> 00:41:28,480 You told them that you were gonna get me. 884 00:41:29,016 --> 00:41:30,026 He said he was gonna get me. 885 00:41:30,066 --> 00:41:31,296 Okay, you got the indictment. 886 00:41:31,333 --> 00:41:33,033 It'sall you're gonna get. 887 00:41:33,066 --> 00:41:36,216 That was one of the first times I saw Ted Bundy really mad. 888 00:41:38,433 --> 00:41:41,333 The evidence against Ted Bundy was mounting, 889 00:41:41,366 --> 00:41:43,126 but would it be enough to finally bring 890 00:41:43,166 --> 00:41:45,476 the suspected serial killer to justice? 891 00:41:46,016 --> 00:41:48,416 And even if authorities were able to get a conviction, 892 00:41:48,450 --> 00:41:52,080 could they keep this master escape artist behind bars? 893 00:41:52,116 --> 00:41:55,146 Next time on "How It Really Happened." 894 00:41:55,183 --> 00:41:56,483 I'm Hill Harper. 895 00:41:57,016 --> 00:41:58,226 Thanks for watching. 72962

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