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Am I going to scream? 5 00:00:13,050 --> 00:00:15,450 That's what I felt like doing, but I kept it together 6 00:00:15,483 --> 00:00:18,133 because there's no point in destroying myself. 7 00:00:18,166 --> 00:00:19,996 I have got to keep myself together. 8 00:00:20,033 --> 00:00:21,073 I have got to stay calm. 9 00:00:21,100 --> 00:00:23,150 I have got to keep my presence of mind, 10 00:00:23,183 --> 00:00:24,423 and that's the way I feel. 11 00:00:24,450 --> 00:00:27,470 ♪♪ 12 00:00:38,483 --> 00:00:40,273 Welcome to "How It Really Happened." 13 00:00:40,300 --> 00:00:42,030 I'm Hill Harper. 14 00:00:42,066 --> 00:00:43,446 In the winter of 1974, 15 00:00:43,483 --> 00:00:47,283 women from the Pacific Northwest began to disappear. 16 00:00:47,316 --> 00:00:50,226 At first, the cases seemed random, 17 00:00:50,266 --> 00:00:52,326 but soon, a pattern emerged. 18 00:00:52,366 --> 00:00:56,066 The missing women were all beautiful, young, and white. 19 00:00:56,100 --> 00:00:58,180 Families hoped for the best, 20 00:00:58,216 --> 00:01:01,026 but when the girls' remains were eventually discovered, 21 00:01:01,066 --> 00:01:04,046 authorities knew there was a killer on the loose. 22 00:01:04,083 --> 00:01:06,223 Among the thousands of tips, 23 00:01:06,250 --> 00:01:09,180 an unlikely suspect came into view -- 24 00:01:09,216 --> 00:01:11,076 a handsome, well-liked, 25 00:01:11,116 --> 00:01:15,066 and respected law student named Ted Bundy, 26 00:01:15,100 --> 00:01:18,220 and soon, the world would know his chilling story. 27 00:01:18,250 --> 00:01:21,100 This is how it really happened. 28 00:01:21,133 --> 00:01:26,173 ♪♪ 29 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:28,320 Women started going missing... 30 00:01:28,350 --> 00:01:31,070 ♪♪ 31 00:01:31,100 --> 00:01:33,380 ...in intervals of about once a month. 32 00:01:33,416 --> 00:01:35,426 ♪♪ 33 00:01:35,466 --> 00:01:39,146 They seemed to vanish without a trace. 34 00:01:39,183 --> 00:01:42,133 ♪♪ 35 00:01:42,166 --> 00:01:44,196 McChesney: That was very frightening 36 00:01:44,233 --> 00:01:47,053 for women in the area at the time 37 00:01:47,083 --> 00:01:51,483 because there wasn't any sense to what was going on. 38 00:01:52,016 --> 00:01:54,146 ♪♪ 39 00:01:54,183 --> 00:01:58,033 When you're 18, you don't want to imagine the unimaginable. 40 00:01:58,066 --> 00:02:02,396 ♪♪ 41 00:02:02,433 --> 00:02:06,053 Zimmerman: My sister Sue... 42 00:02:06,083 --> 00:02:08,073 [ Chuckles ] 43 00:02:08,100 --> 00:02:13,070 She was a blonde, blue-eyed, pretty girl. 44 00:02:13,100 --> 00:02:15,470 She had a great smile. 45 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:21,220 Winters: 5'2", 104 pounds, she was a little thing, 46 00:02:21,250 --> 00:02:26,350 but she was so bubbly and loving. 47 00:02:26,383 --> 00:02:32,123 She had such an inquisitive mind. 48 00:02:32,150 --> 00:02:36,380 A bookworm, but she loved people. 49 00:02:36,416 --> 00:02:39,276 I first met Sue in sixth or seventh grade. 50 00:02:39,316 --> 00:02:41,176 We were cheerleaders together. 51 00:02:41,216 --> 00:02:42,346 You could tell her anything. 52 00:02:42,383 --> 00:02:45,003 If you were down, she was there to make you happy. 53 00:02:45,033 --> 00:02:46,353 Somebody that would be on your side 54 00:02:46,383 --> 00:02:49,183 if things weren't going your way. 55 00:02:49,216 --> 00:02:54,366 She was so happy and excited to be going to college. 56 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:57,270 Good: We were ready to just get going, 57 00:02:57,300 --> 00:03:00,130 see what life was about and what it had to offer. 58 00:03:00,166 --> 00:03:03,466 Winters: She was where she wanted to be, 59 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:06,470 and she was doing wonderful at school. 60 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:08,130 She had made friends. 61 00:03:08,166 --> 00:03:12,316 Her grades were exceptional. 62 00:03:12,350 --> 00:03:16,170 Good: We would write letters back and forth. 63 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:18,000 The last letter that she wrote me 64 00:03:18,033 --> 00:03:20,173 was that she had met someone new, 65 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:22,020 and she was very excited. 66 00:03:22,050 --> 00:03:24,250 That was the last time I heard from her. 67 00:03:24,283 --> 00:03:31,053 ♪♪ 68 00:03:31,083 --> 00:03:33,023 Zimmerman: Sue's roommate called and said, 69 00:03:33,050 --> 00:03:34,480 "Sue didn't come home last night." 70 00:03:35,016 --> 00:03:37,026 I said, "What do you mean she didn't come home?" 71 00:03:37,066 --> 00:03:38,276 ♪♪ 72 00:03:38,316 --> 00:03:42,316 The night that she disappeared, she had gone across campus 73 00:03:42,350 --> 00:03:46,230 to a meeting for next year's dorm monitors. 74 00:03:46,266 --> 00:03:49,296 She had put her clothes in the dryer, 75 00:03:49,333 --> 00:03:51,283 and she never came back. 76 00:03:51,316 --> 00:03:54,276 Harper: Susan Rancourt, a straight-A biology major, 77 00:03:54,316 --> 00:03:56,366 didn't show up to meet some friends for a movie. 78 00:03:56,400 --> 00:04:00,430 She was gone, and we don't know what happened. 79 00:04:00,466 --> 00:04:03,176 And they started searching that night. 80 00:04:03,216 --> 00:04:06,066 Good: Having a dear friend, who was as sweet as could be, 81 00:04:06,100 --> 00:04:09,170 go missing and possibly have harm come to her 82 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:12,420 is something you don't even really want to think about. 83 00:04:12,450 --> 00:04:17,200 Harper: There was an extensive search by local police for days, 84 00:04:17,233 --> 00:04:20,323 but very few leads, no sign of Susan. 85 00:04:20,350 --> 00:04:23,270 Missing-persons posters yielded no information. 86 00:04:23,300 --> 00:04:25,400 Susan had simply disappeared. 87 00:04:25,433 --> 00:04:29,203 Al Pickles, the chief of police, worked with us every day. 88 00:04:29,233 --> 00:04:34,333 Chief Pickles searched the dorms from top to bottom. 89 00:04:34,366 --> 00:04:36,466 ♪♪ 90 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:42,020 He had notified other colleges in Washington State 91 00:04:42,050 --> 00:04:45,150 and nearby Oregon and Idaho. 92 00:04:45,183 --> 00:04:48,103 Then Chief Pickles started hearing of 93 00:04:48,133 --> 00:04:51,303 another girl missing here and one missing there, 94 00:04:51,333 --> 00:04:57,423 and he really started digging into it 95 00:04:57,450 --> 00:05:00,400 to see what was going on. 96 00:05:00,433 --> 00:05:02,083 Reporter: Lynda Ann Healy, 97 00:05:02,116 --> 00:05:04,296 a 21-year-old University of Washington student, 98 00:05:04,333 --> 00:05:08,173 disappeared from her Seattle apartment in January of 1974. 99 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:10,250 She went to the University of Washington. 100 00:05:10,283 --> 00:05:15,123 She had an announcing job at a radio station in Seattle. 101 00:05:15,150 --> 00:05:17,100 McChesney: She was on the radio every morning, 102 00:05:17,133 --> 00:05:21,183 doing the ski report five days a week. 103 00:05:21,216 --> 00:05:26,166 When she did not come on the news and do her ski report, 104 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:29,080 people noticed that she was gone. 105 00:05:29,116 --> 00:05:31,066 Sullivan: And then on March 12th, 106 00:05:31,100 --> 00:05:32,250 Donna Manson disappeared 107 00:05:32,283 --> 00:05:35,253 from Evergreen State College in Olympia. 108 00:05:35,283 --> 00:05:37,233 She was walking across campus one minute, 109 00:05:37,266 --> 00:05:40,226 the next minute, she's gone. 110 00:05:40,266 --> 00:05:43,366 There just was a kind of eerie erasure of these women. 111 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:46,050 ♪♪ 112 00:05:46,083 --> 00:05:48,183 Harper: May 6th, the scene was repeated, 113 00:05:48,216 --> 00:05:49,326 this time miles south 114 00:05:49,366 --> 00:05:52,196 at Oregon State University in Corvallis. 115 00:05:52,233 --> 00:05:55,423 Kathy Parks disappeared while walking on campus that night. 116 00:05:55,450 --> 00:05:59,070 No trace was found. 117 00:05:59,100 --> 00:06:02,220 Three weeks later, the night of May 31st, 118 00:06:02,250 --> 00:06:07,070 22-year-old Brenda Ball left this Burien tavern and vanished. 119 00:06:07,100 --> 00:06:11,380 Keppel: Brenda Ball, we knew that she lived close by 120 00:06:11,416 --> 00:06:14,066 to the tavern that she was missing from. 121 00:06:14,100 --> 00:06:17,480 Basically, we had no witnesses. 122 00:06:18,016 --> 00:06:21,096 Nobody saw her with anybody. 123 00:06:21,133 --> 00:06:25,103 Then you had Georgann Hawkins disappear. 124 00:06:25,133 --> 00:06:28,183 Harper: The night of June 10th, 18-year-old Georgann Hawkins 125 00:06:28,216 --> 00:06:30,476 left a fraternity to make this walk, 126 00:06:31,016 --> 00:06:33,346 just 90 feet down a well-lit alley, 127 00:06:33,383 --> 00:06:36,383 back to her sorority at the University of Washington. 128 00:06:36,416 --> 00:06:38,996 Georgann was never seen again. 129 00:06:39,033 --> 00:06:40,373 Sullivan: She's gone. 130 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:45,280 The state of anxiety in Washington can't be overstated. 131 00:06:45,316 --> 00:06:47,426 Meixner: This guy came up to me 132 00:06:47,466 --> 00:06:52,066 and asked me to help him put his sailboat onto his car. 133 00:06:52,100 --> 00:06:56,100 Lake Sammamish would change everything. 134 00:06:56,133 --> 00:06:58,453 ♪♪ 135 00:07:01,283 --> 00:07:03,483 Reporter: A wave of fear swept all across 136 00:07:04,016 --> 00:07:07,476 the state of Washington from January to July of 1974, 137 00:07:08,016 --> 00:07:10,446 when someone was abducting young women. 138 00:07:10,483 --> 00:07:14,333 It was difficult to connect the dots 139 00:07:14,366 --> 00:07:16,326 when you're talking about young women, 140 00:07:16,366 --> 00:07:19,996 similar age, somewhat similar description... 141 00:07:20,033 --> 00:07:23,103 Young, pretty, white females, dark-haired, 142 00:07:23,133 --> 00:07:25,083 typically parted down the middle. 143 00:07:25,116 --> 00:07:29,126 McChesney: ...who go missing with no -- virtually no clues. 144 00:07:29,166 --> 00:07:34,476 It was very important to us to try and determine 145 00:07:35,016 --> 00:07:39,416 whether or not there was any connection among the cases. 146 00:07:39,450 --> 00:07:42,100 Keppel: We didn't have anything coming our way. 147 00:07:42,133 --> 00:07:44,233 We had the fact that they were missing 148 00:07:44,266 --> 00:07:47,266 and the date and time that they were missing, about, 149 00:07:47,300 --> 00:07:53,350 but nothing to help us with the investigation. 150 00:07:53,383 --> 00:07:56,433 There weren't suspicious circumstances. 151 00:07:56,466 --> 00:08:02,416 No one had seen these women be abducted or in harm's way. 152 00:08:02,450 --> 00:08:05,320 Then in July of 1974, 153 00:08:05,350 --> 00:08:09,180 King County police started investigating two cases 154 00:08:09,216 --> 00:08:12,146 involving women who had gone missing 155 00:08:12,183 --> 00:08:15,133 from Lake Sammamish State Park. 156 00:08:15,166 --> 00:08:17,266 Lake Sammamish would change everything. 157 00:08:17,300 --> 00:08:23,270 ♪♪ 158 00:08:33,066 --> 00:08:35,996 There were different events going on at Lake Sammamish park, 159 00:08:36,033 --> 00:08:39,323 and thousands of people there with their families. 160 00:08:39,350 --> 00:08:44,380 The first person at the park that was missing was Janice Ott. 161 00:08:44,416 --> 00:08:47,296 ♪♪ 162 00:08:47,333 --> 00:08:51,003 She was seen on the beach in her bikini, 163 00:08:51,033 --> 00:08:55,403 talking to a guy, and they walked together. 164 00:08:55,433 --> 00:08:58,103 And she wheeled her bicycle 165 00:08:58,133 --> 00:09:03,423 back toward the parking lot where his car was parked, 166 00:09:03,450 --> 00:09:07,250 and that's the last that she was seen. 167 00:09:07,283 --> 00:09:11,203 And then Denise Naslund was on the beach, 168 00:09:11,233 --> 00:09:14,123 and she had to use the restroom. 169 00:09:14,150 --> 00:09:16,470 So she walked back toward the restroom 170 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:20,050 and was never seen again. 171 00:09:20,083 --> 00:09:22,273 Reporter: 19-year-old Denise Naslund 172 00:09:22,300 --> 00:09:24,130 and 23-year-old Janice Ott 173 00:09:24,166 --> 00:09:28,016 disappeared on a warm summer day at Lake Sammamish. 174 00:09:28,050 --> 00:09:30,430 Police launched a massive search of the park, 175 00:09:30,466 --> 00:09:34,046 though there was no sign of the women. 176 00:09:34,083 --> 00:09:37,333 Once the news media broadcast information 177 00:09:37,366 --> 00:09:40,326 about these two women going missing, 178 00:09:40,366 --> 00:09:43,416 witnesses came forward, and the witnesses indicated 179 00:09:43,450 --> 00:09:47,250 that there were suspicious things. 180 00:09:47,283 --> 00:09:49,153 Authorities didn't know it at the time, 181 00:09:49,183 --> 00:09:50,473 but a girl who was only 15 years old 182 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:54,100 that would prove to be the key eyewitness. 183 00:09:54,133 --> 00:09:55,333 Meixner: The news came on, 184 00:09:55,366 --> 00:10:00,346 and the news anchor held up two pictures of two women 185 00:10:00,383 --> 00:10:03,483 and started out by saying, 186 00:10:04,016 --> 00:10:07,146 "There's two missing women from Lake Sammamish." 187 00:10:07,183 --> 00:10:09,353 And I looked at one of the pictures, 188 00:10:09,383 --> 00:10:12,083 and it was Janice Ott. 189 00:10:12,116 --> 00:10:14,366 And I really felt like I had a knot in my throat, 190 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:17,250 and I remember turning to my dad. 191 00:10:17,283 --> 00:10:21,273 I said, "That girl was laying next to me on the beach, 192 00:10:21,300 --> 00:10:24,200 and she left with this guy." 193 00:10:24,233 --> 00:10:25,373 He said, 194 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:27,300 "Well, I'm going to have to call the police department." 195 00:10:27,333 --> 00:10:31,433 ♪♪ 196 00:10:31,466 --> 00:10:33,216 The very next day, 197 00:10:33,250 --> 00:10:36,070 Detective Keppel came to the house, 198 00:10:36,100 --> 00:10:39,280 and I explained the whole story to him. 199 00:10:39,316 --> 00:10:41,396 She turned out to be a pretty good witness. 200 00:10:41,433 --> 00:10:47,023 ♪♪ 201 00:10:47,050 --> 00:10:50,330 Meixner: It was an absolute beautiful day. 202 00:10:50,366 --> 00:10:52,196 I'd say by noon, 203 00:10:52,233 --> 00:10:56,303 it was literally wall-to-wall people on the beach. 204 00:10:56,333 --> 00:11:00,203 Sylvia told Detective Keppel that a smooth-talking stranger 205 00:11:00,233 --> 00:11:02,273 had come up to her and asked her for help. 206 00:11:02,300 --> 00:11:03,430 Meixner: This guy came up. 207 00:11:03,466 --> 00:11:08,216 He was kind of tall, very tanned, very good-looking. 208 00:11:08,250 --> 00:11:10,380 He came up to me and asked me 209 00:11:10,416 --> 00:11:14,166 to help him put his sailboat onto his car, 210 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:16,170 and I remember looking at him. 211 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:17,470 And I told him, I says, 212 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:21,420 "You know, two of my girlfriends are up at the concession stand, 213 00:11:21,450 --> 00:11:25,030 and if I was gone, they would be really worried." 214 00:11:25,066 --> 00:11:29,096 Then this girl laying next to me sat up, 215 00:11:29,133 --> 00:11:33,083 and he asked her the exact same thing, and she says, 216 00:11:33,116 --> 00:11:36,346 "Well, I could probably help you with that," 217 00:11:36,383 --> 00:11:38,223 and she got up. 218 00:11:38,250 --> 00:11:40,300 She got dressed. 219 00:11:40,333 --> 00:11:45,173 As she was picking up her towel, she says, "Hi, my name's Jan," 220 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:47,250 and he said, "Hi, I'm Ted." 221 00:11:47,283 --> 00:11:50,183 He said, "My name's Ted," 222 00:11:50,216 --> 00:11:52,476 so that's the first time we had a name. 223 00:11:53,016 --> 00:11:56,076 Meixner: And he asked me if I could give a description. 224 00:11:56,116 --> 00:11:58,426 ♪♪ 225 00:11:58,466 --> 00:12:03,326 The individual was probably about 5'10", 226 00:12:03,366 --> 00:12:08,326 with light-brown hair, somewhat curly or wavy. 227 00:12:08,366 --> 00:12:10,366 ♪♪ 228 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:15,050 Keppel: Mid-20s, possibly a university student, 229 00:12:15,083 --> 00:12:19,123 dressed in white t-shirt, white shorts, 230 00:12:19,150 --> 00:12:22,220 white tennis shoes, white socks. 231 00:12:22,250 --> 00:12:25,100 McChesney: And he was wearing a sling, 232 00:12:25,133 --> 00:12:28,253 some sort of sling device on his arm, 233 00:12:28,283 --> 00:12:30,433 so that was the composite. 234 00:12:30,466 --> 00:12:33,066 ♪♪ 235 00:12:33,100 --> 00:12:35,200 Reporter: Witnesses told of a smooth-talking, 236 00:12:35,233 --> 00:12:37,183 good-looking young man named Ted, 237 00:12:37,216 --> 00:12:39,296 who had been seen talking with them. 238 00:12:39,333 --> 00:12:44,103 Police released a composite drawing and description of Ted. 239 00:12:44,133 --> 00:12:46,203 The newspaper put the composite out, 240 00:12:46,233 --> 00:12:47,223 and I think the headline was, 241 00:12:47,250 --> 00:12:49,180 "Is this the Ted that took the girls?" 242 00:12:49,216 --> 00:12:52,246 For two women, the composite sketch of Ted 243 00:12:52,283 --> 00:12:54,353 hit a little too close to home. 244 00:12:54,383 --> 00:12:57,003 Chino: My friend threw the picture on the table, 245 00:12:57,033 --> 00:12:58,133 the composite, 246 00:12:58,166 --> 00:13:00,076 and she said to me, "Who do you think that is?" 247 00:13:00,116 --> 00:13:01,316 I said, "Well, it's Ted. Why?" 248 00:13:01,350 --> 00:13:04,420 And then she burst into tears because that looked a lot like 249 00:13:04,450 --> 00:13:08,330 her boyfriend, Ted Bundy -- a lot like him. 250 00:13:08,366 --> 00:13:11,266 ♪♪ 251 00:13:11,300 --> 00:13:15,050 A lot of people trying to pin a lot of stuff on somebody 252 00:13:15,083 --> 00:13:18,003 because, you know, it's convenient. 253 00:13:18,033 --> 00:13:20,053 She went to the authorities. 254 00:13:20,083 --> 00:13:23,473 I think she wanted to make sure he wasn't the one. 255 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:27,180 Kendall: In my own mind, there was similarities 256 00:13:27,216 --> 00:13:30,416 or coincidences that seemed to tie him in, but yet, 257 00:13:30,450 --> 00:13:34,130 when I would think about our day-to-day relationship, 258 00:13:34,166 --> 00:13:36,346 there was nothing there that would lead me to think 259 00:13:36,383 --> 00:13:38,123 that he was a violent man. 260 00:13:38,150 --> 00:13:40,320 Woman: Have you ever physically harmed anyone? 261 00:13:40,350 --> 00:13:43,170 Ever physically harmed anyone? 262 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:45,020 No. 263 00:13:45,050 --> 00:13:50,450 ♪♪ 264 00:13:52,466 --> 00:13:57,466 ♪♪ 265 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:00,020 Jordan: In July of 1974, 266 00:14:00,050 --> 00:14:01,430 eight young women had gone missing, 267 00:14:01,466 --> 00:14:04,246 and panic was rising because it became clear 268 00:14:04,283 --> 00:14:06,373 that they had not gone of their own volition. 269 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:08,450 They had been taken. 270 00:14:08,483 --> 00:14:11,083 Authorities had very little to go on, 271 00:14:11,116 --> 00:14:13,246 other than a few eyewitness accounts 272 00:14:13,283 --> 00:14:15,203 of a man who had been in the area. 273 00:14:15,233 --> 00:14:19,203 His name was Ted, and he was last seen with one of the women 274 00:14:19,233 --> 00:14:22,203 who had gone missing at Lake Sammamish. 275 00:14:22,233 --> 00:14:26,053 And from that point on, it was like heightened alert. 276 00:14:26,083 --> 00:14:30,103 We didn't have any physical evidence to go by. 277 00:14:30,133 --> 00:14:35,153 We had missing persons for months and no remains. 278 00:14:35,183 --> 00:14:37,153 Sullivan: Before the first dump site was found, 279 00:14:37,183 --> 00:14:39,103 they didn't have any evidence at all. 280 00:14:39,133 --> 00:14:43,383 ♪♪ 281 00:14:43,416 --> 00:14:45,326 McChesney: The first remains were found 282 00:14:45,366 --> 00:14:48,026 just a few miles from Lake Sammamish state park. 283 00:14:48,066 --> 00:14:50,426 Reporter: Police made the grisly recovery of several bodies, 284 00:14:50,466 --> 00:14:53,166 badly beaten, sometimes strangled. 285 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:56,270 The skeletal remains of Janice Ott and Denise Naslund 286 00:14:56,300 --> 00:14:58,180 were found on a hillside. 287 00:14:58,216 --> 00:15:04,266 She was like a ray of sunshine in my life, 288 00:15:04,300 --> 00:15:08,280 and she brought me so much happiness. 289 00:15:08,316 --> 00:15:11,426 And I don't believe I'll ever be the same again. 290 00:15:11,466 --> 00:15:14,446 ♪♪ 291 00:15:14,483 --> 00:15:17,373 McChesney: The hunters came across bones. 292 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:21,170 You didn't have an entire skeleton. 293 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:25,220 You had just pieces, making it very difficult. 294 00:15:25,250 --> 00:15:29,120 Keppel: Well, you could see in the skulls that were found 295 00:15:29,150 --> 00:15:32,330 that there were fracture marks, so that led us to believe 296 00:15:32,366 --> 00:15:35,216 that they were probably struck in the head. 297 00:15:35,250 --> 00:15:37,420 Reporter: The bodies of four more young women were found. 298 00:15:37,450 --> 00:15:40,180 All of them had been strangled or bludgeoned 299 00:15:40,216 --> 00:15:42,176 by this brutal killer. 300 00:15:42,216 --> 00:15:43,326 Reporter 2: Lynda Ann Healy -- 301 00:15:43,366 --> 00:15:46,196 her body was found on a mountain 18 miles from Seattle, 302 00:15:46,233 --> 00:15:48,353 along with the bodies of several other missing women, 303 00:15:48,383 --> 00:15:51,083 including 18-year-old Susan Rancourt. 304 00:15:51,116 --> 00:15:53,046 Good: They found her body in the mountains. 305 00:15:53,083 --> 00:15:56,253 They couldn't identify her except by her dental records. 306 00:15:56,283 --> 00:15:58,453 That's horrific. 307 00:15:58,483 --> 00:16:04,333 When somebody is missing, you imagine the worst things, 308 00:16:04,366 --> 00:16:07,396 and it turns out what happened to her 309 00:16:07,433 --> 00:16:10,173 might have been worse than what we imagined. 310 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:13,070 ♪♪ 311 00:16:13,100 --> 00:16:18,030 McChesney: There were just very few leads, very few clues. 312 00:16:18,066 --> 00:16:20,266 It was not easy. 313 00:16:20,300 --> 00:16:22,470 ♪♪ 314 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:26,420 Keppel: There just wasn't any of the traditional things 315 00:16:26,450 --> 00:16:28,330 you would find at a murder scene. 316 00:16:28,366 --> 00:16:30,266 Clothing -- where was that, 317 00:16:30,300 --> 00:16:33,180 and where in the world was the rest of the remains? 318 00:16:33,216 --> 00:16:35,146 We didn't have that, either. 319 00:16:35,183 --> 00:16:36,373 Only had bones. 320 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:41,220 We still could not find evidence leading us to the offender. 321 00:16:45,066 --> 00:16:47,066 Sullivan: Lake Sammamish, with all those people there, 322 00:16:47,100 --> 00:16:48,180 they were telling the public, 323 00:16:48,216 --> 00:16:50,276 "Please, send all your photographs 324 00:16:50,316 --> 00:16:52,076 of the crowds to us, please." 325 00:16:52,116 --> 00:16:56,246 And they did, and they never got a photo with him in it. 326 00:16:56,283 --> 00:17:00,403 They got a photo with what they believed might be his car. 327 00:17:00,433 --> 00:17:04,153 McChesney: The witnesses that we had 328 00:17:04,183 --> 00:17:09,073 saw Ted leaving with Janice or with Denise 329 00:17:09,100 --> 00:17:13,150 and saw him heading towards this Volkswagen. 330 00:17:13,183 --> 00:17:17,003 Unfortunately, there was no license plate that we had. 331 00:17:17,033 --> 00:17:19,233 It was just a description of a car, 332 00:17:19,266 --> 00:17:23,296 and there were literally hundreds of Volkswagen beetles 333 00:17:23,333 --> 00:17:25,423 in the state of Washington at the time. 334 00:17:25,450 --> 00:17:27,430 They were not in good shape. 335 00:17:27,466 --> 00:17:29,416 Here's what they knew about the abductor -- 336 00:17:29,450 --> 00:17:31,080 people sitting around Janice, 337 00:17:31,116 --> 00:17:33,196 they said this guy identified himself as Ted. 338 00:17:33,233 --> 00:17:34,353 They had a description, 339 00:17:34,383 --> 00:17:36,433 from which composite drawings came forth, 340 00:17:36,466 --> 00:17:38,376 and they knew this person drove a Volkswagen. 341 00:17:38,416 --> 00:17:42,476 We received literally thousands of tips, 342 00:17:43,016 --> 00:17:47,216 and interestingly, Ted Bundy was among them. 343 00:17:47,250 --> 00:17:49,230 ♪♪ 344 00:17:49,266 --> 00:17:51,426 Reporter: Police released a composite drawing 345 00:17:51,466 --> 00:17:53,066 and description of Ted, 346 00:17:53,100 --> 00:17:55,430 and within weeks, through an anonymous call, 347 00:17:55,466 --> 00:17:58,096 the name of Tacoma native Ted Bundy 348 00:17:58,133 --> 00:18:01,403 was added to a file of more than 3,000 suspects 349 00:18:01,433 --> 00:18:06,233 being investigated by the police task force. 350 00:18:06,266 --> 00:18:08,316 Winn: People teased him at the office and said, 351 00:18:08,350 --> 00:18:11,050 "Say, your name is Ted, and you've got a Volkswagen," 352 00:18:11,083 --> 00:18:13,073 and of course, they were teasing and laughing about it 353 00:18:13,100 --> 00:18:14,350 because he was the boy next door. 354 00:18:14,383 --> 00:18:16,323 He was handsome. He was charming. 355 00:18:16,350 --> 00:18:19,270 He had political aspirations. 356 00:18:19,300 --> 00:18:21,020 ♪♪ 357 00:18:21,050 --> 00:18:23,250 Jordan: Ted Bundy had been in the press before, 358 00:18:23,283 --> 00:18:24,473 but not for anything bad. 359 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:27,150 It was because he had been a rising star 360 00:18:27,183 --> 00:18:29,153 in the local political community, 361 00:18:29,183 --> 00:18:31,373 and he even made headlines in 1973 362 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:33,350 for catching a purse-snatcher. 363 00:18:33,383 --> 00:18:37,203 He also happened to look a lot like the composite sketch, 364 00:18:37,233 --> 00:18:39,353 and he drove a Volkswagen. 365 00:18:39,383 --> 00:18:43,323 And the similarities were enough to make his friends wonder. 366 00:18:43,350 --> 00:18:45,000 One of the articles in the paper 367 00:18:45,033 --> 00:18:47,173 said that he drove a bronze Volkswagen. 368 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:49,470 We went to a pay phone, and I called and asked them, 369 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:52,250 for sure, it was bronze, and they said yes. 370 00:18:52,283 --> 00:18:56,083 And that was a relief because Ted's Volkswagen was tan. 371 00:18:56,116 --> 00:18:59,216 Jordan: Marylynne met Ted in 1969 at the Sandpiper Inn. 372 00:18:59,250 --> 00:19:01,080 It was a tavern in Seattle, 373 00:19:01,116 --> 00:19:02,396 and they soon became fast friends 374 00:19:02,433 --> 00:19:05,483 because he was dating her best friend, Liz Kendall. 375 00:19:06,016 --> 00:19:07,246 Chino: We did lots of things together. 376 00:19:07,283 --> 00:19:08,373 There was kind of the three of us. 377 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:10,270 I came and went along for the ride, you know. 378 00:19:10,300 --> 00:19:13,170 I feel good about myself. I'm happy with myself. 379 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:15,370 And they know that I didn't do these things. 380 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:19,070 ♪♪ 381 00:19:19,100 --> 00:19:23,200 Ted was born in a home for unwed mothers in Vermont in 1946. 382 00:19:23,233 --> 00:19:26,283 Bundy's mother -- she was a single mother, 383 00:19:26,316 --> 00:19:28,316 and shortly after that, she moved as far away 384 00:19:28,350 --> 00:19:30,450 as she could, moved to the west coast. 385 00:19:30,483 --> 00:19:33,173 She met and married a man named Johnny Bundy, 386 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:35,280 who was a cook in an Army hospital. 387 00:19:35,316 --> 00:19:37,416 Johnny was very self-effacing 388 00:19:37,450 --> 00:19:39,420 and did not make a distinct impression. 389 00:19:39,450 --> 00:19:40,420 Louise did. 390 00:19:40,450 --> 00:19:42,280 Ted looked exactly like his mother. 391 00:19:42,316 --> 00:19:50,066 Ted being the oldest and, you might say, my pride and joy, 392 00:19:50,100 --> 00:19:53,000 our relationship was always very special. 393 00:19:53,033 --> 00:19:54,423 A very normal, active boy. 394 00:19:54,450 --> 00:20:00,430 He did all the things that most boys like to do. 395 00:20:00,466 --> 00:20:04,116 Carlisle: He graduated high school, '65, 396 00:20:04,150 --> 00:20:05,300 with about a B, 397 00:20:05,333 --> 00:20:10,153 and he started fall, University of Puget Sound. 398 00:20:10,183 --> 00:20:12,183 Chino: He was smart, and I think -- 399 00:20:12,216 --> 00:20:14,016 and he always got good grades. 400 00:20:14,050 --> 00:20:16,080 We had wonderful discussions. 401 00:20:16,116 --> 00:20:18,096 You know, I loved talking to Ted 402 00:20:18,133 --> 00:20:20,403 because he's great, talks about politics, 403 00:20:20,433 --> 00:20:24,273 very well-read, very analytical, all that kind of stuff. 404 00:20:24,300 --> 00:20:26,000 Oh, yeah, you would have liked him. 405 00:20:26,033 --> 00:20:28,433 He had a Bachelor's degree in psychology. 406 00:20:28,466 --> 00:20:32,116 He had worked in some campaigns. 407 00:20:32,150 --> 00:20:34,320 People liked him. 408 00:20:34,350 --> 00:20:38,050 He had pretty good street cred 409 00:20:38,083 --> 00:20:39,483 in some pretty legitimate circles. 410 00:20:40,016 --> 00:20:43,446 Ann Rule, who later wrote a book about Ted, 411 00:20:43,483 --> 00:20:46,183 had worked with him on a suicide-prevention line. 412 00:20:46,216 --> 00:20:48,226 She was impressed with him. 413 00:20:48,266 --> 00:20:51,276 Rule: Ted was my partner at the crisis clinic 414 00:20:51,316 --> 00:20:55,066 for a little over a year, and I liked him. 415 00:20:55,100 --> 00:20:57,470 He was so good on the phones. 416 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:02,080 He'd walk me to my car and say, "Ann, lock your doors 417 00:21:02,116 --> 00:21:05,126 because I don't want anything to happen to you on the way home." 418 00:21:05,166 --> 00:21:06,376 ♪♪ 419 00:21:06,416 --> 00:21:09,466 Lots of people in the political world thought he had a future. 420 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:12,330 He'd worked for governor Dan Evans 421 00:21:12,366 --> 00:21:14,366 in his re-election campaign. 422 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:19,020 He was a very nice guy, and like a lot of young people, 423 00:21:19,050 --> 00:21:21,350 you're building a, you know, a group to go out and campaign 424 00:21:21,383 --> 00:21:24,083 and help for a variety of things. 425 00:21:24,116 --> 00:21:26,126 And he was one of those people. 426 00:21:26,166 --> 00:21:27,246 Chino: When Dan Evans was elected, 427 00:21:27,283 --> 00:21:30,253 he and my friend went to the governor's ball, 428 00:21:30,283 --> 00:21:33,233 and I recall her saying, "I felt like I was in a dream 429 00:21:33,266 --> 00:21:35,326 because we danced -- you know, the governor and his wife 430 00:21:35,366 --> 00:21:37,096 danced the first, and then we danced. 431 00:21:37,133 --> 00:21:39,453 The dream, yeah, it was wonderful." 432 00:21:39,483 --> 00:21:41,353 Sullivan: He had a lot of influential people 433 00:21:41,383 --> 00:21:43,123 that liked him and believed in him. 434 00:21:43,150 --> 00:21:47,070 He enrolled in the University of Utah school of law. 435 00:21:47,100 --> 00:21:49,400 He was making a name for himself. 436 00:21:49,433 --> 00:21:51,003 It can't be. 437 00:21:51,033 --> 00:21:53,203 It can't be our Ted because we know him. 438 00:21:53,233 --> 00:21:55,353 Reporter: Ted Bundy, a rising star 439 00:21:55,383 --> 00:21:57,283 in the state Republican Party, 440 00:21:57,316 --> 00:21:59,466 was not considered a prime suspect. 441 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,330 Those Washington cases remain open. 442 00:22:02,366 --> 00:22:06,366 ♪♪ 443 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:09,000 Jordan: By September of 1974, 444 00:22:09,033 --> 00:22:11,483 the murders in Washington State had stopped, 445 00:22:12,016 --> 00:22:14,216 but a little over 800 miles away, 446 00:22:14,250 --> 00:22:18,320 near Salt Lake City, Utah, women began going missing. 447 00:22:18,350 --> 00:22:22,300 And this was very near where Ted Bundy attended law school. 448 00:22:22,333 --> 00:22:26,023 A highway patrolman saw the vehicle, 449 00:22:26,050 --> 00:22:28,220 thought it was suspicious. 450 00:22:28,250 --> 00:22:29,430 He searches his car. 451 00:22:29,466 --> 00:22:33,016 He finds a ski mask and some rope 452 00:22:33,050 --> 00:22:36,350 and an ice pick and a pair of handcuffs. 453 00:22:36,383 --> 00:22:39,123 Jordan: And it all began to come together. 454 00:22:39,150 --> 00:22:41,370 ♪♪ 455 00:22:43,283 --> 00:22:45,273 I have the greatest amount of confidence 456 00:22:45,300 --> 00:22:47,350 that at least in the preparation stage, 457 00:22:47,383 --> 00:22:49,103 that my ideas will work. 458 00:22:49,133 --> 00:22:51,033 Welcome back to "How It Really Happened." 459 00:22:51,066 --> 00:22:52,116 I'm Hill Harper. 460 00:22:52,150 --> 00:22:56,120 In 1975, terror and panic gripped the nation 461 00:22:56,150 --> 00:22:57,370 after eight missing women 462 00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:00,150 had been found brutally murdered in Washington state. 463 00:23:00,183 --> 00:23:03,023 Detectives had a suspect, Ted Bundy, 464 00:23:03,050 --> 00:23:05,320 but had no evidence tying him to the crimes. 465 00:23:05,350 --> 00:23:09,070 Then women began going missing near Salt Lake City, Utah, 466 00:23:09,100 --> 00:23:11,400 close to where Bundy was attending law school, 467 00:23:11,433 --> 00:23:13,453 and authorities began to wonder, 468 00:23:13,483 --> 00:23:16,183 "Could this be the work of the same man?" 469 00:23:16,216 --> 00:23:22,226 ♪♪ 470 00:23:22,266 --> 00:23:24,426 Here in the west, there are still unanswered questions 471 00:23:24,466 --> 00:23:26,296 in a number of murder cases. 472 00:23:26,333 --> 00:23:29,483 The unsolved crimes frustrate police. 473 00:23:30,016 --> 00:23:32,346 Packer: I was working late at KSL, 474 00:23:32,383 --> 00:23:36,023 and the front desk called up to the newsroom and said, 475 00:23:36,050 --> 00:23:37,100 "There's a police chief here 476 00:23:37,133 --> 00:23:38,373 that wants to talk to a reporter." 477 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:44,400 It was Chief Louis Smith with the Midvale police. 478 00:23:44,433 --> 00:23:48,133 He had a photo with him and said, 479 00:23:48,166 --> 00:23:50,096 "This is my daughter Melissa, 480 00:23:50,133 --> 00:23:52,273 and I think she's been abducted." 481 00:23:52,300 --> 00:23:53,300 I want to know 482 00:23:53,333 --> 00:23:55,483 that the young girls are safe on the street. 483 00:23:56,016 --> 00:23:58,276 I don't want another parent to go through 484 00:23:58,316 --> 00:24:00,196 what my wife and I went through. 485 00:24:00,233 --> 00:24:02,173 I don't -- I don't think that's right. 486 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:03,420 Reporter: Melissa left her father 487 00:24:03,450 --> 00:24:06,170 on the night of October 18, 1974, 488 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:08,470 to meet a friend at this Midvale restaurant. 489 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,050 They talked for a while, and then Melissa left -- 490 00:24:11,083 --> 00:24:15,253 she said for home, but she never got there. 491 00:24:15,283 --> 00:24:17,123 Sullivan: She walked home. 492 00:24:17,150 --> 00:24:20,370 It wasn't well-lighted, and a lady -- 493 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:24,180 she hears a single scream pierce the night air. 494 00:24:24,216 --> 00:24:26,176 ♪♪ 495 00:24:26,216 --> 00:24:27,346 Jordan: Three weeks later, 496 00:24:27,383 --> 00:24:29,433 Debby Kent went missing from a school auditorium 497 00:24:29,466 --> 00:24:31,476 when she left a school play early. 498 00:24:32,016 --> 00:24:34,016 Reporter: Debby was attending a play with her family 499 00:24:34,050 --> 00:24:38,050 at Viewmont High School on the night of November 8, 1974. 500 00:24:38,083 --> 00:24:41,183 She left the play early to pick up her brother at an ice rink. 501 00:24:41,216 --> 00:24:43,266 And the mom said, you know, "Be careful. 502 00:24:43,300 --> 00:24:47,350 Hurry back, Deb," and she got up 503 00:24:47,383 --> 00:24:50,453 and she walked out the doors on the western side. 504 00:24:50,483 --> 00:24:52,373 Reporter: We're at the Kent home in Bountiful right now. 505 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,480 What you're looking at is the porch light 506 00:24:55,016 --> 00:24:56,226 that's been left on for Debby, 507 00:24:56,266 --> 00:24:58,346 a beacon of light, a symbol of hope. 508 00:24:58,383 --> 00:25:02,183 ♪♪ 509 00:25:02,216 --> 00:25:05,396 Jordan: By year's end, four Utah women would be missing 510 00:25:05,433 --> 00:25:07,083 and feared dead, 511 00:25:07,116 --> 00:25:09,246 and just like in the state of Washington, 512 00:25:09,283 --> 00:25:12,323 detectives were really just hankering for clues 513 00:25:12,350 --> 00:25:16,000 as to who could be responsible for all of these missing women. 514 00:25:16,033 --> 00:25:17,453 But then, police caught a break 515 00:25:17,483 --> 00:25:20,273 in the form of a young woman named Carol DaRonch, 516 00:25:20,300 --> 00:25:23,130 who came to them with an almost unbelievable story 517 00:25:23,166 --> 00:25:25,416 of escaping the horror of being kidnapped 518 00:25:25,450 --> 00:25:29,270 by a really good-looking man who drove a Volkswagen, 519 00:25:29,300 --> 00:25:33,200 and that story would be key to solving this case. 520 00:25:33,233 --> 00:25:39,403 ♪♪ 521 00:25:39,433 --> 00:25:43,423 She was at a mall. He approaches her. 522 00:25:43,450 --> 00:25:46,150 Carlisle: He went up and he says, "I'm a police officer, 523 00:25:46,183 --> 00:25:48,453 and I think someone's broken into your car. 524 00:25:48,483 --> 00:25:51,123 Do you have a Camaro?" 525 00:25:51,150 --> 00:25:52,150 And she says yes, 526 00:25:52,183 --> 00:25:54,003 and he says, "Would you come with me?" 527 00:25:54,033 --> 00:25:57,383 "You can come with me in, you know, my car." 528 00:25:57,416 --> 00:26:00,016 So she sees this ratty little Volkswagen. 529 00:26:00,050 --> 00:26:02,420 ♪♪ 530 00:26:02,450 --> 00:26:05,250 Carlisle: He gets her in his Volkswagen. 531 00:26:05,283 --> 00:26:09,123 He's driving off, gets a few blocks away. 532 00:26:09,150 --> 00:26:11,000 Sullivan: He pulled his Volkswagen over, 533 00:26:11,033 --> 00:26:13,253 and within a second of having stopped the vehicle, 534 00:26:13,283 --> 00:26:16,083 he attacked her. 535 00:26:16,116 --> 00:26:18,196 Carlisle: He tries to slap the handcuffs on her. 536 00:26:18,233 --> 00:26:21,053 He had gotten the handcuff on one arm, 537 00:26:21,083 --> 00:26:24,303 was trying to get the handcuff on the other wrist, 538 00:26:24,333 --> 00:26:27,003 missed it, got it on the same arm. 539 00:26:27,033 --> 00:26:28,423 Well, she knew if she was going to survive 540 00:26:28,450 --> 00:26:30,200 that she had to get out of that car. 541 00:26:30,233 --> 00:26:31,373 She got out. 542 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:34,170 He got out of the vehicle, tried to chase her, 543 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,270 but there were headlights coming towards them. 544 00:26:36,300 --> 00:26:38,000 He just knew couldn't stay there. 545 00:26:38,033 --> 00:26:40,283 He got back in his car and left. 546 00:26:40,316 --> 00:26:42,326 Jordan: Carol DaRonch told her story to the police, 547 00:26:42,366 --> 00:26:47,116 and now they had insight into the suspect's M.O. 548 00:26:47,150 --> 00:26:49,300 He would try to lure women into his car, 549 00:26:49,333 --> 00:26:51,433 and they would never be seen again. 550 00:26:51,466 --> 00:26:53,016 This began to match 551 00:26:53,050 --> 00:26:55,070 what the Washington state police were hearing, 552 00:26:55,100 --> 00:26:57,380 and it all began to come together. 553 00:26:57,416 --> 00:27:01,276 He was very big on using the ruse of a helpless person. 554 00:27:01,316 --> 00:27:03,276 At Lake Sammamish, he had an arm cast. 555 00:27:03,316 --> 00:27:06,316 Carlisle: He said to the girls, "Could you please come 556 00:27:06,350 --> 00:27:10,130 and help me load a sailboat on my car?" 557 00:27:10,166 --> 00:27:12,416 Good: Calling them over to a car for a helping hand, 558 00:27:12,450 --> 00:27:14,400 which you would normally go ahead and do, 559 00:27:14,433 --> 00:27:16,053 if you were trusting. 560 00:27:16,083 --> 00:27:18,423 Sullivan: At Central Washington State College, 561 00:27:18,450 --> 00:27:21,130 where he abducted Susan Rancourt, 562 00:27:21,166 --> 00:27:22,466 he did a similar thing. 563 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,000 ♪♪ 564 00:27:25,033 --> 00:27:28,253 Two young women at Sue's college 565 00:27:28,283 --> 00:27:32,003 had been approached by him before Sue. 566 00:27:32,033 --> 00:27:36,483 One of the young ladies carried his books to the car. 567 00:27:52,033 --> 00:27:54,173 ♪♪ 568 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:57,320 Carlisle: When he would get them in his vehicle, 569 00:27:57,350 --> 00:28:02,150 he would try to knock them out at that point, 570 00:28:02,183 --> 00:28:04,233 then molest them, kill them, 571 00:28:04,266 --> 00:28:08,376 or kill them and rape them after. 572 00:28:08,416 --> 00:28:12,116 Those people would never, you know, be seen again. 573 00:28:12,150 --> 00:28:21,020 Sue -- she wasn't out looking for trouble when she was taken. 574 00:28:21,050 --> 00:28:26,050 He asked for help, and she would have helped him. 575 00:28:26,083 --> 00:28:28,333 Being helpful was her downfall. 576 00:28:28,366 --> 00:28:31,996 ♪♪ 577 00:28:32,033 --> 00:28:35,323 Jordan: So now they had an M.O., but no person of interest. 578 00:28:35,350 --> 00:28:38,470 and it would be the work of an astute highway patrolman 579 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:42,320 who would finally bring this depraved suspect into the light. 580 00:28:42,350 --> 00:28:46,150 ♪♪ 581 00:28:46,183 --> 00:28:50,283 Carlisle: It was late at night, about 2:00 in the morning, 582 00:28:50,316 --> 00:28:54,446 and he had stopped at this little residential area. 583 00:28:54,483 --> 00:28:59,453 What happened is a highway patrolman saw his -- 584 00:28:59,483 --> 00:29:03,073 the vehicle, thought it was suspicious, 585 00:29:03,100 --> 00:29:04,450 pulled him over. 586 00:29:04,483 --> 00:29:06,173 Bundy: It was early in the morning. 587 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:11,220 I exited my car, and the officer, Hayward, 588 00:29:11,250 --> 00:29:14,130 had left his car and approached me. 589 00:29:14,166 --> 00:29:16,316 ♪♪ 590 00:29:16,350 --> 00:29:18,000 Carlisle: He searches his car. 591 00:29:18,033 --> 00:29:22,233 He finds a ski mask and some rope 592 00:29:22,266 --> 00:29:25,426 and an ice pick and a pair of handcuffs. 593 00:29:25,466 --> 00:29:28,026 They knew that somebody was out there that was, 594 00:29:28,066 --> 00:29:29,276 you know, driving a Volkswagen, 595 00:29:29,316 --> 00:29:31,196 that this Carol DaRonch escaped from, 596 00:29:31,233 --> 00:29:33,283 and with the handcuffs, and said, 597 00:29:33,316 --> 00:29:35,346 "Oh, I have to check into this guy." 598 00:29:35,383 --> 00:29:38,223 ♪♪ 599 00:29:38,250 --> 00:29:41,330 Jordan: The man now in custody was Ted Bundy. 600 00:29:41,366 --> 00:29:45,116 Reporter: In October of '75, Ted Bundy was identified 601 00:29:45,150 --> 00:29:47,450 in a police lineup after being arrested 602 00:29:47,483 --> 00:29:50,333 on kidnapping charges in Salt Lake City. 603 00:29:50,366 --> 00:29:51,426 Winn: He was a law student. 604 00:29:51,466 --> 00:29:54,146 He was a kind of a rising star, 605 00:29:54,183 --> 00:29:56,483 so the idea that somebody like this 606 00:29:57,016 --> 00:29:59,466 was the possible perpetrator, it's impossible. 607 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:01,250 Munro: When it was first identified 608 00:30:01,283 --> 00:30:05,053 that it might be Ted Bundy, it was just total disbelief. 609 00:30:05,083 --> 00:30:08,023 None of us that had any remote connection with Ted 610 00:30:08,050 --> 00:30:11,270 could possibly believe it, and yet, as time went by, 611 00:30:11,300 --> 00:30:15,020 we realized there was more truth than there was suspicion. 612 00:30:15,050 --> 00:30:20,270 ♪♪ 613 00:30:20,300 --> 00:30:24,470 Complete and utter shock. We still don't believe it. 614 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:26,420 It just can't be. 615 00:30:26,450 --> 00:30:28,480 Our son is the best son in the world. 616 00:30:29,016 --> 00:30:30,146 I don't like being locked up for something I didn't do, 617 00:30:30,183 --> 00:30:33,203 and I don't like my liberty taken away. 618 00:30:33,233 --> 00:30:34,423 Yes, I feel that I'm right, 619 00:30:34,450 --> 00:30:37,480 and yes, I feel I'm going to make it, no doubt in my mind. 620 00:30:38,016 --> 00:30:40,296 ♪♪ 621 00:30:42,133 --> 00:30:44,123 I am going to do my best 622 00:30:44,150 --> 00:30:47,370 to keep in touch with friends and family who have been so kind 623 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,420 and been so good in writing and praying for me. 624 00:30:50,450 --> 00:30:52,370 I'm thankful for that. 625 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:54,480 ♪♪ 626 00:30:55,016 --> 00:30:58,116 Jordan: In October of 1975, Ted Bundy was charged 627 00:30:58,150 --> 00:31:00,450 with the aggravated kidnapping of Carol DaRonch, 628 00:31:00,483 --> 00:31:03,103 the young woman he had tried to handcuff 629 00:31:03,133 --> 00:31:04,483 inside of his Volkswagen. 630 00:31:05,016 --> 00:31:07,116 While investigators were building the case, 631 00:31:07,150 --> 00:31:11,230 Ted's friends and family were in complete disbelief. 632 00:31:11,266 --> 00:31:16,116 The first reports were when he was arrested in Salt Lake City. 633 00:31:16,150 --> 00:31:19,170 It was quite a shock when we realized, 634 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,300 in fact, it was the same Ted Bundy. 635 00:31:21,333 --> 00:31:24,253 The Ted Bundy we knew was not a violent person. 636 00:31:24,283 --> 00:31:26,303 ♪♪ 637 00:31:26,333 --> 00:31:29,433 On the other hand, there were some people whom we interviewed 638 00:31:29,466 --> 00:31:33,476 who knew Ted that put all the things together 639 00:31:34,016 --> 00:31:37,116 and said, "You know, he was one strange duck." 640 00:31:37,150 --> 00:31:39,350 They just thought there was something odd about him. 641 00:31:39,383 --> 00:31:41,183 Sullivan: There was a professor. 642 00:31:41,216 --> 00:31:43,246 He called Keppel's people one day. 643 00:31:43,283 --> 00:31:45,453 He said, "I got a weird guy in my class. 644 00:31:45,483 --> 00:31:48,453 His name is Ted. He drives a 1968 Volkswagen. 645 00:31:48,483 --> 00:31:52,053 I think you ought to check him out." 646 00:31:52,083 --> 00:31:55,003 It wasn't just his behavior that was seemingly odd. 647 00:31:55,033 --> 00:31:57,183 It was his ever-changing appearance. 648 00:31:57,216 --> 00:32:00,196 Chino: I remember distinctly when they did him in a lineup -- 649 00:32:00,233 --> 00:32:02,133 and Ted had longer hair, curly. 650 00:32:02,166 --> 00:32:04,016 Well, when he went up to do the lineup, 651 00:32:04,050 --> 00:32:07,200 he'd cut his hair very short so he'd look like everybody else. 652 00:32:07,233 --> 00:32:08,423 Winn: It was not only cut, 653 00:32:08,450 --> 00:32:10,330 but it was parted on the other side, 654 00:32:10,366 --> 00:32:14,166 which would create this kind of different symmetry of the face. 655 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,230 He looked like a chameleon. 656 00:32:16,266 --> 00:32:20,296 He was very much different each time somebody saw him. 657 00:32:20,333 --> 00:32:22,433 Chino: I guess when I started putting things together, 658 00:32:22,466 --> 00:32:25,326 I had spoken to my father here in Utah 659 00:32:25,366 --> 00:32:28,996 because I was getting worried, and his words were, 660 00:32:29,033 --> 00:32:31,403 "Marylynne, if he's the one, he'll do it again." 661 00:32:31,433 --> 00:32:34,133 Winn: Once he was arrested and his name became associated 662 00:32:34,166 --> 00:32:36,226 and the cops started speaking to each other, 663 00:32:36,266 --> 00:32:38,016 people by then were convinced 664 00:32:38,050 --> 00:32:40,130 that Bundy had committed these crimes in Washington. 665 00:32:40,166 --> 00:32:42,346 McChesney: People had reported that they thought 666 00:32:42,383 --> 00:32:44,153 he looked like the composite. 667 00:32:44,183 --> 00:32:46,083 He had a Volkswagen bug. 668 00:32:46,116 --> 00:32:52,396 He had left the area in 1974, after Lake Sammamish, 669 00:32:52,433 --> 00:32:55,123 and gone to Utah, so that was a clue 670 00:32:55,150 --> 00:33:01,080 also because the killings, abductions, missing-people cases 671 00:33:01,116 --> 00:33:04,996 had stopped around the time he left the state. 672 00:33:05,033 --> 00:33:07,053 I mean, he fit all the parameters. 673 00:33:07,083 --> 00:33:09,423 Sullivan: And everybody's scales fell off their eyes at once, 674 00:33:09,450 --> 00:33:11,450 and it was simply, "This is the guy. 675 00:33:11,483 --> 00:33:14,033 It's Bundy. We just now have to prove it." 676 00:33:14,066 --> 00:33:16,396 I am not guilty. 677 00:33:16,433 --> 00:33:18,373 [ Laughs ] 678 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:20,350 Does that -- does that include the time 679 00:33:20,383 --> 00:33:23,203 I stole a comic book when I was 5 years old? 680 00:33:23,233 --> 00:33:27,453 I am not guilty of the charges which are filed against me. 681 00:33:27,483 --> 00:33:31,303 Despite the fact that he was a suspect in multiple murders, 682 00:33:31,333 --> 00:33:33,173 Ted was actually legally 683 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:36,280 just facing one count of aggravated kidnapping, 684 00:33:36,316 --> 00:33:39,446 and he was given the possibility of bail. 685 00:33:39,483 --> 00:33:43,103 And he posted bail and returned to Washington state 686 00:33:43,133 --> 00:33:45,003 before his trial in Utah. 687 00:33:45,033 --> 00:33:48,483 Ted was allowed to come back for the Christmas holiday. 688 00:33:49,016 --> 00:33:51,266 Ted knew that people were watching him, 689 00:33:51,300 --> 00:33:55,370 and he was infamous, really, at that point. 690 00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:57,420 His visit put both authorities 691 00:33:57,450 --> 00:34:01,300 and his girlfriend's best friend, Marylynne, on edge, 692 00:34:01,333 --> 00:34:03,333 especially when Marylynne found herself 693 00:34:03,366 --> 00:34:05,416 in Ted's company at Liz's house, 694 00:34:05,450 --> 00:34:10,020 and then alone with him in his car. 695 00:34:10,050 --> 00:34:12,300 Chino: I know by now that they're investigating him, 696 00:34:12,333 --> 00:34:14,453 and I remember we were over at her house having dinner. 697 00:34:14,483 --> 00:34:16,303 And I had to go home, and she said, 698 00:34:16,333 --> 00:34:18,403 "Come on, I'll take you home," 699 00:34:18,433 --> 00:34:20,173 and Ted jumps in, "No, let me take her. 700 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:24,080 Let me take her," and he ended up taking me home. 701 00:34:24,116 --> 00:34:25,326 I could have gotten an Academy Award 702 00:34:25,366 --> 00:34:27,466 for the performance I put in in that car 703 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,230 because I just talked to him like things were normal. 704 00:34:30,266 --> 00:34:32,096 I didn't want to be around him. 705 00:34:32,133 --> 00:34:37,303 ♪♪ 706 00:34:37,333 --> 00:34:40,083 Jordan: In the new year, Ted returned to Utah 707 00:34:40,116 --> 00:34:41,176 to face the trial 708 00:34:41,216 --> 00:34:43,446 for the aggravated kidnapping of Carol DaRonch. 709 00:34:43,483 --> 00:34:46,433 A former law student, he had a lot of confidence, 710 00:34:46,466 --> 00:34:50,016 and he decided he was going to help defend himself. 711 00:34:50,050 --> 00:34:51,270 Bundy: Putting yourself in the position 712 00:34:51,300 --> 00:34:55,000 of being your own counsel, it's that positive psychology. 713 00:34:55,033 --> 00:34:56,173 You're going to do it. 714 00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:57,370 You're going to do it because you're right. 715 00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:00,100 Obviously, I'm going to bear the consequences, 716 00:35:00,133 --> 00:35:02,233 so why not bear the responsibility? 717 00:35:02,266 --> 00:35:06,176 I covered the trial from beginning to end. 718 00:35:06,216 --> 00:35:10,016 They had a good case against him for the kidnapping, 719 00:35:10,050 --> 00:35:12,000 not a really great case. 720 00:35:12,033 --> 00:35:14,003 There wasn't a lot of evidence. 721 00:35:14,033 --> 00:35:16,333 They found a head hair of Carol DaRonch in his car. 722 00:35:16,366 --> 00:35:19,196 There was the eyewitness accounts of Carol. 723 00:35:19,233 --> 00:35:22,123 She was obviously the key witness in the case, 724 00:35:22,150 --> 00:35:24,070 but she wasn't the best witness 725 00:35:24,100 --> 00:35:28,080 because her story was not really consistent. 726 00:35:28,116 --> 00:35:31,316 At one point, she said, "Well, I don't know if the police badge 727 00:35:31,350 --> 00:35:33,230 that he showed me was silver or gold." 728 00:35:33,266 --> 00:35:34,446 These are minor details. 729 00:35:34,483 --> 00:35:37,353 She was adamant that he was the man. 730 00:35:37,383 --> 00:35:39,353 ♪♪ 731 00:35:39,383 --> 00:35:42,203 This person is walking towards me 732 00:35:42,233 --> 00:35:44,273 and has a smile on his face. 733 00:35:44,300 --> 00:35:47,250 He says, "I'm Ted Bundy." 734 00:35:47,283 --> 00:35:49,023 I noticed a long time ago, 735 00:35:49,050 --> 00:35:52,330 it ceased to be an issue whether or not I was innocent or guilty. 736 00:35:52,366 --> 00:35:54,996 The issue now is can we pin it on him? 737 00:35:55,033 --> 00:35:57,283 ♪♪ 738 00:35:59,116 --> 00:36:02,066 Every citizen who believes in law and order 739 00:36:02,100 --> 00:36:05,470 should spend a couple weeks there and learn how it works. 740 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,100 Carlisle: Everybody knew about Ted Bundy. 741 00:36:08,133 --> 00:36:16,053 He had attempted to kidnap Carol DaRonch, and she got away. 742 00:36:16,083 --> 00:36:18,073 ♪♪ 743 00:36:18,100 --> 00:36:20,220 Jordan: On March 1, 1976, 744 00:36:20,250 --> 00:36:24,480 Ted Bundy was found guilty of aggravated kidnapping. 745 00:36:25,016 --> 00:36:26,316 [ Chuckles ] It's an emotional time. 746 00:36:26,350 --> 00:36:28,350 I don't even like to think of that day, 747 00:36:28,383 --> 00:36:30,183 but I wasn't going to give them the satisfaction 748 00:36:30,216 --> 00:36:32,316 of seeing me break down. 749 00:36:32,350 --> 00:36:34,380 Jordan: Ted was then sent to Utah state prison 750 00:36:34,416 --> 00:36:37,076 for a 90-day psychiatric evaluation 751 00:36:37,116 --> 00:36:38,276 before his sentencing, 752 00:36:38,316 --> 00:36:40,416 and the psychologist would be charged with the task 753 00:36:40,450 --> 00:36:42,420 of determining whether this event 754 00:36:42,450 --> 00:36:44,270 was just a one-time thing 755 00:36:44,300 --> 00:36:48,230 or whether he was a predator who should be locked up forever. 756 00:36:48,266 --> 00:36:51,276 ♪♪ 757 00:36:51,316 --> 00:36:54,026 Carlisle: I was a psychologist at the prison, 758 00:36:54,066 --> 00:36:56,276 and this person is walking towards me 759 00:36:56,316 --> 00:36:58,426 and a smile on his face, 760 00:36:58,466 --> 00:37:03,126 and he extends out his hand and he says, "I'm Ted Bundy. 761 00:37:03,166 --> 00:37:06,366 You must be Dr. Carlisle." 762 00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:10,250 He had the ability to make a very good impression. 763 00:37:10,283 --> 00:37:13,033 He looked good. He smiled. 764 00:37:13,066 --> 00:37:16,076 He seemed confident. 765 00:37:16,116 --> 00:37:17,346 He seemed happy. 766 00:37:17,383 --> 00:37:21,253 He gave me the Ted Bundy he wanted me to know. 767 00:37:21,283 --> 00:37:23,003 Jordan: Over the next 90 days, 768 00:37:23,033 --> 00:37:25,333 Dr. Carlisle would delve into Ted's psyche 769 00:37:25,366 --> 00:37:28,016 by trying to cover every aspect of his life, 770 00:37:28,050 --> 00:37:32,270 from his early childhood up into his teenage years, 771 00:37:32,300 --> 00:37:36,170 when he became a prolific consumer of pornography. 772 00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,250 ♪♪ 773 00:37:38,283 --> 00:37:44,473 Ted is lonely, and he's just not fitting in. 774 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,330 He would just sort of withdraw, 775 00:37:47,366 --> 00:37:51,396 and being lonely and not fitting in, 776 00:37:51,433 --> 00:37:54,303 you have to get your satisfaction somewhere. 777 00:37:54,333 --> 00:37:57,203 He withdrew into a quiet fantasy life, 778 00:37:57,233 --> 00:38:02,073 but then, his behavior would begin to escalate. 779 00:38:02,100 --> 00:38:04,180 Carlisle: He was getting interested 780 00:38:04,216 --> 00:38:06,296 in window-peeking and pornography, 781 00:38:06,333 --> 00:38:10,433 and he's feeling a sense of control, a sense of power. 782 00:38:10,466 --> 00:38:13,246 So they rely upon it more and more and more. 783 00:38:13,283 --> 00:38:16,123 ♪♪ 784 00:38:16,150 --> 00:38:18,150 Dr. Carlisle focused a lot 785 00:38:18,183 --> 00:38:20,183 on Ted's relationships with women, 786 00:38:20,216 --> 00:38:22,146 but one woman in particular. 787 00:38:22,183 --> 00:38:25,353 Her name was Marjorie, and she, by all accounts, 788 00:38:25,383 --> 00:38:27,483 was Ted's dream girl. 789 00:38:28,016 --> 00:38:29,446 She was very intelligent. 790 00:38:29,483 --> 00:38:32,073 She was outgoing. 791 00:38:32,100 --> 00:38:37,050 She had worked part-time as a model, 792 00:38:37,083 --> 00:38:41,173 and her father was vice president 793 00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:44,050 of an international company. 794 00:38:44,083 --> 00:38:47,323 So this was everything he wanted. 795 00:38:47,350 --> 00:38:49,250 She had money. She had prestige. 796 00:38:49,283 --> 00:38:51,273 Ted felt like he'd been, you know, 797 00:38:51,300 --> 00:38:56,280 left outside of that circle of privilege and pursued her. 798 00:38:56,316 --> 00:38:59,196 Carlisle: They'd communicate back and forth, 799 00:38:59,233 --> 00:39:03,253 and then she told him, "I just want to be friends." 800 00:39:03,283 --> 00:39:05,173 A lot of experts believe 801 00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:08,450 that Ted Bundy had a huge issue with rejection, 802 00:39:08,483 --> 00:39:12,333 and that that rejection, the breakup with Marjorie, 803 00:39:12,366 --> 00:39:15,476 was a watershed event that he would never get over. 804 00:39:16,016 --> 00:39:17,346 He's very disappointed. 805 00:39:17,383 --> 00:39:22,133 It's as though Marge was the last-ditch attempt 806 00:39:22,166 --> 00:39:24,426 to get control over his wild life, 807 00:39:24,466 --> 00:39:29,016 and so the dark side then just sort of shifts in. 808 00:39:29,050 --> 00:39:31,080 Based on all the evidence that Dr. Carlisle 809 00:39:31,116 --> 00:39:33,216 was able to gather from his interviews with Ted 810 00:39:33,250 --> 00:39:35,200 and all of his friends and family, 811 00:39:35,233 --> 00:39:38,253 he came to the conclusion that Ted Bundy was, indeed, 812 00:39:38,283 --> 00:39:40,033 a very violent man 813 00:39:40,066 --> 00:39:42,326 and that he was most likely responsible 814 00:39:42,366 --> 00:39:46,996 for all of these crimes that he was being considered for. 815 00:39:47,033 --> 00:39:50,183 Carlisle: After we finished, he says, "Al, do you think 816 00:39:50,216 --> 00:39:55,426 I really killed those girls that they claim I did?" 817 00:39:55,466 --> 00:40:01,226 And part of me wanted to say, "Yes, I have no doubt about it," 818 00:40:01,266 --> 00:40:04,346 but what I said was, "I don't know for sure, 819 00:40:04,383 --> 00:40:10,153 but I think if you did, you'll likely do it again." 820 00:40:10,183 --> 00:40:12,273 And at that point, he didn't say anything. 821 00:40:12,300 --> 00:40:16,270 He just walked off down the hall, went back to his cell. 822 00:40:16,300 --> 00:40:22,430 ♪♪ 823 00:40:22,466 --> 00:40:25,026 As each day went on, 824 00:40:25,066 --> 00:40:27,226 there was more information that came in about Ted. 825 00:40:27,266 --> 00:40:30,276 Reporter: Eyewitness reports fitted with Bundy's description. 826 00:40:30,316 --> 00:40:33,266 There was also physical evidence in Bundy's car. 827 00:40:33,300 --> 00:40:36,420 Packer: They had seized the Volkswagen 828 00:40:36,450 --> 00:40:40,170 and vacuumed the inside for evidence. 829 00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:45,320 There were, I believe, pubic hair of other women, 830 00:40:45,350 --> 00:40:49,030 young women, in the car, which would have been the first 831 00:40:49,066 --> 00:40:52,126 really strong sort of smoking-gun link 832 00:40:52,166 --> 00:40:54,376 to link him to these other killings. 833 00:40:54,416 --> 00:40:56,366 Ted's not the person we thought he was. 834 00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:58,420 They've got real evidence against him. 835 00:40:58,450 --> 00:41:03,100 Being in prison, going through a kind of hell, 836 00:41:03,133 --> 00:41:04,233 matures a person, and I -- 837 00:41:04,266 --> 00:41:08,016 and I think it's done good things for me. 838 00:41:08,050 --> 00:41:11,330 My only misgiving is that I might never be -- 839 00:41:11,366 --> 00:41:14,066 might never be in a position to apply it, 840 00:41:14,100 --> 00:41:19,030 you know, on the streets, where I'd like to apply it. 841 00:41:19,066 --> 00:41:21,066 He was looking for avenues of escape. 842 00:41:21,100 --> 00:41:23,030 Reporter: Bundy, who had been awaiting trial, 843 00:41:23,066 --> 00:41:25,296 escaped on December 31, 1977. 844 00:41:25,333 --> 00:41:26,433 Jordan: Ted Bundy was gone, 845 00:41:26,466 --> 00:41:29,116 and the authorities did not know where he went. 846 00:41:29,150 --> 00:41:30,330 Reporter: Roadblocks were set up 847 00:41:30,366 --> 00:41:32,416 within 15 minutes of Bundy's escape. 848 00:41:32,450 --> 00:41:36,300 So far, these road blocks have turned up no sign of Ted Bundy. 849 00:41:36,333 --> 00:41:40,353 Theodore Bundy is now one of the FBI's most wanted men. 850 00:41:40,383 --> 00:41:44,083 ♪♪ 851 00:41:44,116 --> 00:41:47,246 After being convicted of aggravated kidnapping, 852 00:41:47,283 --> 00:41:51,423 Ted Bundy was sentenced to 5 to 15 years in a Utah prison, 853 00:41:51,450 --> 00:41:54,320 but he wouldn't remain behind bars for very long. 854 00:41:54,350 --> 00:41:58,120 His story and his reign of terror were far from over, 855 00:41:58,150 --> 00:42:01,050 next time on "How It Really Happened." 856 00:42:01,083 --> 00:42:02,323 I'm Hill Harper. 857 00:42:02,350 --> 00:42:05,270 Thanks for watching. 67398

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