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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,350 --> 00:00:06,050 ♪♪ 2 00:00:25,016 --> 00:00:31,246 ♪♪ 3 00:00:31,283 --> 00:00:38,053 ♪♪ 4 00:00:38,083 --> 00:00:39,073 Welcome to "How It Really Happened." 5 00:00:39,100 --> 00:00:40,200 I'm Hill Harper. 6 00:00:40,233 --> 00:00:44,323 In May of 2001, 24-year-old Chandra Levy was packing 7 00:00:44,350 --> 00:00:47,150 to return to her parents' home in California 8 00:00:47,183 --> 00:00:50,253 when she vanished without a trace. 9 00:00:50,283 --> 00:00:52,253 In the shadow of this mysterious disappearance, 10 00:00:52,283 --> 00:00:53,473 another drama was unfolding, 11 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:57,430 this young intern's relationship with an older politician. 12 00:00:57,466 --> 00:00:59,226 Add the possibility of foul play, 13 00:00:59,266 --> 00:01:01,416 and you've got the kind of puzzling and irresistible 14 00:01:01,450 --> 00:01:05,180 D.C. scandal that captivates a nation. 15 00:01:05,216 --> 00:01:08,376 This is "How It Really Happened." 16 00:01:11,333 --> 00:01:13,033 Blitzer: The disappearance of a young woman 17 00:01:13,066 --> 00:01:15,446 who has worked as a government intern here in Washington 18 00:01:15,483 --> 00:01:19,033 is capturing nationwide attention. 19 00:01:19,066 --> 00:01:20,196 Velez-Mitchell: In the fall of 2000, 20 00:01:20,233 --> 00:01:23,133 Chandra Levy leaves the West Coast, 21 00:01:23,166 --> 00:01:25,126 leaves her home, leaves her parents, 22 00:01:25,166 --> 00:01:28,476 and she heads to the exciting world of Washington, D.C., 23 00:01:29,016 --> 00:01:30,476 where she gets an internship 24 00:01:31,016 --> 00:01:34,096 with the Federal Bureau of Prisons. 25 00:01:34,133 --> 00:01:37,333 Karas: Chandra decided to leave Washington D.C. in May 2001. 26 00:01:37,366 --> 00:01:40,416 She had a good experience there with her internship, 27 00:01:40,450 --> 00:01:43,370 but she was moving on with her life. 28 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:45,250 She was going to move back to California 29 00:01:45,283 --> 00:01:48,433 and attend her graduation at USC. 30 00:01:48,466 --> 00:01:51,346 Tuchman: Her parents were very excited to have her back in Modesto. 31 00:01:51,383 --> 00:01:54,073 They were waiting to hear final arrangements from her, 32 00:01:54,100 --> 00:01:58,050 when she was coming, what day, what airline, what plane. 33 00:01:58,083 --> 00:01:59,383 They didn't hear from her. 34 00:02:00,266 --> 00:02:02,146 [ Dials ] [ Phone rings ] 35 00:02:02,183 --> 00:02:05,273 Her father called, got her answering machine. 36 00:02:05,300 --> 00:02:07,000 "Call me back, Chandra." [ Phone beeps, dials, rings ] 37 00:02:07,033 --> 00:02:08,153 Her father called again. 38 00:02:08,183 --> 00:02:11,073 "Call me back, Chandra." [ Phone beeps, dials, rings ] 39 00:02:11,100 --> 00:02:14,100 Velez-Mitchell: She just isn't answering any of their calls, 40 00:02:14,133 --> 00:02:16,403 and her father calls her repeatedly. 41 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:21,380 Finally, the father is frustrated 42 00:02:21,416 --> 00:02:23,316 and very, very worried, 43 00:02:23,350 --> 00:02:25,030 and he kind of snaps a little bit. 44 00:02:25,066 --> 00:02:27,026 He just says on the answering machine, 45 00:02:27,066 --> 00:02:29,216 "[Bleep] it, Chandra, call me." 46 00:02:29,250 --> 00:02:30,430 Didn't get an answer, got the answering machine. 47 00:02:30,466 --> 00:02:32,076 Then call her up again, didn't get an answer. 48 00:02:32,116 --> 00:02:35,196 Then I got really worried. Then I called the D.C. Police. 49 00:02:35,233 --> 00:02:38,453 The police immediately were saying, 50 00:02:38,483 --> 00:02:41,133 "Let's not get too excited about this. 51 00:02:41,166 --> 00:02:43,346 This is just a missing person's case. 52 00:02:43,383 --> 00:02:46,323 Oftentimes, the missing person shows up." 53 00:02:46,350 --> 00:02:49,350 I recall having one of my deputies come in 54 00:02:49,383 --> 00:02:53,353 and at least alert me that an individual was reported missing. 55 00:02:53,383 --> 00:02:57,003 It was brought to me because it's Washington, D.C., 56 00:02:57,033 --> 00:02:58,173 and anything that happens 57 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:01,180 tends to draw a lot of media attention. 58 00:03:01,216 --> 00:03:05,296 Velez-Mitchell: The cops send a squad car over to Chandra's apartment 59 00:03:05,333 --> 00:03:08,183 in Dupont Circle, and they go in. 60 00:03:10,183 --> 00:03:12,483 Ramsey: There was no signs of forced entry or any disturbance 61 00:03:13,016 --> 00:03:16,166 to make it look like there had been a struggle. 62 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:21,180 Velez-Mitchell: They see that her bags are half packed, but her purse is there. 63 00:03:21,216 --> 00:03:22,196 Her id is there. 64 00:03:22,233 --> 00:03:24,323 Her wallet is there. 65 00:03:24,350 --> 00:03:26,080 There's dishes in the sink. 66 00:03:26,116 --> 00:03:29,026 I mean, her cell phone is still in the apartment. 67 00:03:29,066 --> 00:03:31,196 Police were somewhat suspicious 68 00:03:31,233 --> 00:03:34,103 because when she was gone without, 69 00:03:34,133 --> 00:03:39,023 you know, her cell phone and her ID card and other, 70 00:03:39,050 --> 00:03:41,330 you know, very vital information in her purse, 71 00:03:41,366 --> 00:03:43,426 something sounds not right. 72 00:03:43,466 --> 00:03:45,276 Martin: Was she planning to return home? 73 00:03:45,316 --> 00:03:47,446 Was she in a good mood? Was she happy? 74 00:03:47,483 --> 00:03:49,473 Was she depressed? 75 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:53,020 Whoever would've seen her prior to her disappearance 76 00:03:53,050 --> 00:03:54,230 would've known that information. 77 00:03:54,266 --> 00:03:56,026 Could've been a kidnapping. 78 00:03:56,066 --> 00:03:57,226 It could've been a rape. 79 00:03:57,266 --> 00:03:58,376 It could've been anything, 80 00:03:58,416 --> 00:04:03,376 but the police needed to follow all the leads. 81 00:04:03,416 --> 00:04:05,416 Her parents also began to think, 82 00:04:05,450 --> 00:04:07,180 "Well, you know, we've got her phone bills here. 83 00:04:07,216 --> 00:04:08,996 Todd: We've been paying for her cell phone. 84 00:04:09,033 --> 00:04:11,023 Let's just try to trace some of these calls," 85 00:04:11,050 --> 00:04:13,020 and they start to go through the records. 86 00:04:13,050 --> 00:04:16,350 Susan: Well, there was sequential number of numbers 87 00:04:16,383 --> 00:04:18,223 that she kept calling and calling 88 00:04:18,250 --> 00:04:21,370 and calling, every few minutes almost, 89 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:24,450 it seemed like, and at odd hours, 90 00:04:24,483 --> 00:04:28,053 and then I decided make a call, 91 00:04:28,083 --> 00:04:31,053 and it turns out to be a private number, 92 00:04:31,083 --> 00:04:35,153 which is -- leads to Gary Condit's office, 93 00:04:35,183 --> 00:04:37,203 and she was calling at all hours, 94 00:04:37,233 --> 00:04:40,433 I mean, like, 9 o'clock at night. 95 00:04:44,016 --> 00:04:47,416 Tuchman: And alarm bells immediately went off in Susan Levy's head. 96 00:04:47,450 --> 00:04:50,380 Susan: I kind of said, "Oh, my God," 97 00:04:50,416 --> 00:04:54,026 and something like a light bulb went off. 98 00:04:54,066 --> 00:04:56,326 "My God, Maybe Chandra's da--" 99 00:04:56,366 --> 00:05:00,126 because she talked about dating some mysterious person 100 00:05:00,166 --> 00:05:02,996 who wanted to keep it quiet. 101 00:05:03,033 --> 00:05:05,333 Bob: Chandra told us about her adventures in D.C. 102 00:05:05,366 --> 00:05:06,446 Susan: ...and all you have to do is put it in here. 103 00:05:06,483 --> 00:05:09,223 Bob: The Bureau of Prisons and a Congressman friend. 104 00:05:09,250 --> 00:05:13,030 With all due respect to this distinguished group and -- 105 00:05:13,066 --> 00:05:15,366 Geragos: Gary was -- people may not remember this, 106 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:18,480 but he was a very well-respected 107 00:05:19,016 --> 00:05:22,366 state representative in California 108 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:26,020 and represented the Modesto area, 109 00:05:26,050 --> 00:05:28,230 then got elected to Congress, 110 00:05:28,266 --> 00:05:34,266 was a rather conservative Democrat with a loving family 111 00:05:34,300 --> 00:05:37,300 and was considered to be a pillar of the community. 112 00:05:37,333 --> 00:05:39,053 The Levys leave a message 113 00:05:39,083 --> 00:05:41,133 on Congressman Condit's answering service, 114 00:05:41,166 --> 00:05:43,446 and he personally calls them back. 115 00:05:43,483 --> 00:05:45,073 I told him what was going on. 116 00:05:45,100 --> 00:05:48,230 You know, he was -- sounded shocked about it. 117 00:05:48,266 --> 00:05:50,116 Susan: I asked him, 118 00:05:50,150 --> 00:05:54,270 "Why is a constituent calling at 9 o'clock at night?" 119 00:05:54,300 --> 00:05:58,330 "Well, I actually help people who want to know 120 00:05:58,366 --> 00:06:02,366 about becoming an FBI agent or whatever, 121 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:06,280 and sometimes we work after hours." 122 00:06:06,316 --> 00:06:08,146 Todd: Congressman Condit told the parents 123 00:06:08,183 --> 00:06:11,153 that he knew Chandra Levy but not well, 124 00:06:11,183 --> 00:06:13,023 that she had come by his office 125 00:06:13,050 --> 00:06:16,320 and that he had given her career advice. 126 00:06:16,350 --> 00:06:17,380 Where could she be? 127 00:06:17,416 --> 00:06:20,376 Did she go somewhere and just disappear? 128 00:06:20,416 --> 00:06:23,296 Did someone attack her? 129 00:06:23,333 --> 00:06:26,453 Did she leave town with someone? 130 00:06:26,483 --> 00:06:29,183 The possibilities in these people's minds 131 00:06:29,216 --> 00:06:31,476 are almost endless, and they're all horrible. 132 00:06:32,016 --> 00:06:35,046 Kagan: To look at now the disappearance of USC student Chandra Levy. 133 00:06:35,083 --> 00:06:37,273 We are joined on the phone by Sergeant Joe Gentile. 134 00:06:37,300 --> 00:06:40,080 Any new developments on this case you can share with us? 135 00:06:40,116 --> 00:06:42,116 We are following up on some matters. 136 00:06:42,150 --> 00:06:44,250 Sgt. Gentile: We're trying to interview people that may know 137 00:06:44,283 --> 00:06:46,483 Ms. Levy or may know of her whereabouts. 138 00:06:47,016 --> 00:06:49,446 ♪♪ 139 00:06:49,483 --> 00:06:53,033 Karas: At this point, the Levys are desperate. 140 00:06:53,066 --> 00:06:55,466 They now travel from California to Washington, D.C. 141 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:58,420 They meet with the D.C. Police, the FBI. 142 00:06:58,450 --> 00:07:02,020 They even meet with their own U.S. Senators, 143 00:07:02,050 --> 00:07:06,080 but most important, they take their story to the airwaves. 144 00:07:06,116 --> 00:07:08,276 They get the media's attention. 145 00:07:08,316 --> 00:07:13,376 Robert Levy crying with his head on his wife's shoulder. 146 00:07:13,416 --> 00:07:15,326 [ Sobbing ] I think she's been stolen... 147 00:07:15,366 --> 00:07:20,266 We don't know, though. ...or kidnapped or murdered. 148 00:07:20,300 --> 00:07:22,350 It's impossible to imagine the pain 149 00:07:22,383 --> 00:07:25,073 that these parents were going through, 150 00:07:25,100 --> 00:07:29,120 and they were going through it all in a public eye like this. 151 00:07:29,150 --> 00:07:32,070 I'm asking people throughout America 152 00:07:32,100 --> 00:07:35,070 to help me out in a sense of finding her 153 00:07:35,100 --> 00:07:37,050 and bring Chandra home back to her, 154 00:07:37,083 --> 00:07:39,203 her family that loves her very much. 155 00:07:39,233 --> 00:07:42,273 Franken: You had the parents desperately saying 156 00:07:42,300 --> 00:07:44,280 that they needed to find their daughter. 157 00:07:44,316 --> 00:07:47,166 So, it got everybody's attention 158 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:49,400 and of course it snowballed from there. 159 00:07:49,433 --> 00:07:51,033 Susan: Of course I'm hurt. 160 00:07:51,066 --> 00:07:53,376 As a mother, especially of someone who's missing 161 00:07:53,416 --> 00:07:55,166 a daughter right now, that did not 162 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:58,250 show up for graduation, I'm not only hurt, 163 00:07:58,283 --> 00:07:59,353 I'm scared. 164 00:07:59,383 --> 00:08:02,473 And I just want my daughter home alive. 165 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:05,480 When they came to Washington, D.C., they talked to police 166 00:08:06,016 --> 00:08:09,196 and made it clear they were very concerned 167 00:08:09,233 --> 00:08:12,473 that the fact that a congressman was involved 168 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:15,370 would hamper or imperil the investigation 169 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:18,230 into their missing daughter. 170 00:08:18,266 --> 00:08:21,216 Johns: It's so hard to imagine your beautiful, 171 00:08:21,250 --> 00:08:25,000 young daughter going away to Washington, D.C., 172 00:08:25,033 --> 00:08:27,083 very excited about this internship, 173 00:08:27,116 --> 00:08:31,146 ready to come home and just poof. 174 00:08:56,416 --> 00:08:58,426 Phillips: Those home videos helped us so much 175 00:08:58,466 --> 00:09:05,066 in giving the world eyes into who Chandra Levy was, 176 00:09:05,100 --> 00:09:10,100 who this family was, the thoughts, the conversation, 177 00:09:10,133 --> 00:09:12,323 the personality, the sense of humor, 178 00:09:12,350 --> 00:09:17,170 and she loved her family, and it really put a, 179 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:22,070 a face and a personality to this victim. 180 00:09:22,100 --> 00:09:23,450 Franken: Susan and Robert Levy have returned 181 00:09:23,483 --> 00:09:25,453 to their Modesto, California, home, 182 00:09:25,483 --> 00:09:28,323 left behind, the still unanswered questions 183 00:09:28,350 --> 00:09:30,320 about their daughter, Chandra Levy, 184 00:09:30,350 --> 00:09:33,230 who disappeared more than 7 weeks ago. 185 00:09:33,266 --> 00:09:36,146 Police have three theories early on. 186 00:09:36,183 --> 00:09:40,353 Number one, something that's not uncommon: That she ran away. 187 00:09:40,383 --> 00:09:43,373 Number two, something that would be far less common: 188 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:45,270 That she committed suicide and far less common 189 00:09:45,300 --> 00:09:46,420 because, why would they not be able 190 00:09:46,450 --> 00:09:49,280 to find her? Number three, the most 191 00:09:49,316 --> 00:09:54,176 worrisome: That she was a victim of foul play. 192 00:09:54,216 --> 00:09:56,066 Johns: It's so hard to imagine that. 193 00:09:56,100 --> 00:09:59,380 It's so hard to imagine your beautiful, 194 00:09:59,416 --> 00:10:03,366 young daughter going away to Washington, D.C., 195 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:06,170 very excited about this internship, 196 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:10,320 ready to come home, and just poof. 197 00:10:13,183 --> 00:10:15,083 Karas: Everybody loved Chandra Levy. 198 00:10:15,116 --> 00:10:17,476 She was very free-spirited, very focused, 199 00:10:18,016 --> 00:10:20,096 independent, bright. 200 00:10:20,133 --> 00:10:22,073 Bob: She was interested in applying for the FBI 201 00:10:22,100 --> 00:10:25,320 and then sort of secondarily maybe applying to law school 202 00:10:25,350 --> 00:10:28,080 but maybe go into public administration. 203 00:10:28,116 --> 00:10:31,046 So she lined up an internship 204 00:10:31,083 --> 00:10:32,323 with the Federal Bureau of Prisons 205 00:10:32,350 --> 00:10:34,270 as part of her graduate program, 206 00:10:34,300 --> 00:10:37,300 and so that was the ticket to D.C. 207 00:10:40,083 --> 00:10:41,153 Todd: In October of 2000, 208 00:10:41,183 --> 00:10:43,353 Chandra Levy went to Condit's office 209 00:10:43,383 --> 00:10:45,153 with a friend from Modesto, 210 00:10:45,183 --> 00:10:47,373 and he's their Congressman, so they go to meet him. 211 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:51,100 He's charming, he's friendly, and he offers to give 212 00:10:51,133 --> 00:10:53,403 the two young women a tour of the Capitol. 213 00:10:53,433 --> 00:10:56,483 Picture shows the Congressman with his arms 214 00:10:57,016 --> 00:10:59,176 around both of the young women. 215 00:10:59,216 --> 00:11:00,426 That seems to be the first meeting 216 00:11:00,466 --> 00:11:02,266 he has with Chandra Levy. 217 00:11:02,300 --> 00:11:05,270 Tuchman: Several days after that visit to Capitol Hill, 218 00:11:05,300 --> 00:11:09,020 Chandra Levy called Gary Condit. 219 00:11:09,050 --> 00:11:11,120 The alleged affair with Congressman Condit 220 00:11:11,150 --> 00:11:12,450 began a few weeks later. 221 00:11:14,100 --> 00:11:18,320 Our antennae go up any time that we hear of a politician, 222 00:11:18,350 --> 00:11:21,150 an older politician with an intern, 223 00:11:21,183 --> 00:11:23,173 in any way connected with an intern. 224 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:24,470 I mean, come on. 225 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:28,170 This was not long after the whole Monica Lewinsky business. 226 00:11:29,316 --> 00:11:32,026 Ramsey: This was a very hard case for, for police. 227 00:11:32,066 --> 00:11:33,276 It was a missing person. 228 00:11:33,316 --> 00:11:37,346 I mean, this is an adult that can come and go as she pleased. 229 00:11:37,383 --> 00:11:39,473 There was nothing initially that would indicate 230 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:42,320 that there was any kind of foul play. 231 00:11:42,350 --> 00:11:44,480 Velez-Mitchell: Covering cases like this, 232 00:11:45,016 --> 00:11:48,246 I was just flabbergasted at the twists and turns. 233 00:11:48,283 --> 00:11:50,173 It's like nothing I've ever seen. 234 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:52,270 [ Chords strike ] 235 00:11:52,300 --> 00:11:56,150 Todd: An officer was sent to Chandra Levy's apartment on May 6th. 236 00:11:56,183 --> 00:11:58,483 Officers went there on May 7th and on May 8th, 237 00:11:59,016 --> 00:12:02,096 three times, 3 days in a row, and on each occasion, 238 00:12:02,133 --> 00:12:05,173 they failed to ask about surveillance tapes. 239 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:09,080 They neglected to ask for the videotape 240 00:12:09,116 --> 00:12:11,326 that would've shown her leaving the apartment 241 00:12:11,366 --> 00:12:13,066 that would've revealed what she was wearing, 242 00:12:13,100 --> 00:12:16,150 whether she was with anybody, what her mood was. 243 00:12:16,183 --> 00:12:17,273 They never asked for it. 244 00:12:17,300 --> 00:12:19,300 Well, it's recorded over every 7 days. 245 00:12:19,333 --> 00:12:22,303 By the time they decided to ask for it, it was gone. 246 00:12:22,333 --> 00:12:24,373 Is that a missed opportunity? Yes. 247 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:27,100 [ Chord strikes ] 248 00:12:27,133 --> 00:12:29,183 Todd: Another significant mistake by the police was 249 00:12:29,216 --> 00:12:31,096 when they went into her apartment, 250 00:12:31,133 --> 00:12:34,053 she had left her laptop there. 251 00:12:34,083 --> 00:12:36,003 An investigator turned it on 252 00:12:36,033 --> 00:12:39,203 and started to kind of mess with it. 253 00:12:39,233 --> 00:12:42,483 He was not a trained computer specialist. 254 00:12:43,016 --> 00:12:45,226 In the process of checking that computer 255 00:12:45,266 --> 00:12:48,426 and messing around with it, he corrupted some of the files. 256 00:12:48,466 --> 00:12:50,316 Ramsey: When a, a computer gets corrupted, 257 00:12:50,350 --> 00:12:53,300 you can't get at the information right away, and there's a delay, 258 00:12:53,333 --> 00:12:57,203 and that just further complicates the case. 259 00:12:57,233 --> 00:13:03,033 Kobilinsky: As a result, the search that she did for the Klingle Mansion, 260 00:13:03,066 --> 00:13:07,016 which was a site in Rock Creek Park, 261 00:13:07,050 --> 00:13:14,200 it was delayed by maybe a month till finally trained I.T. people 262 00:13:14,233 --> 00:13:16,183 were able to look at the search 263 00:13:16,216 --> 00:13:21,116 and determine possibly she went to visit that site. 264 00:13:21,150 --> 00:13:25,470 ♪♪ 265 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:27,420 Todd: We find out that, at about 10:27, 266 00:13:27,450 --> 00:13:29,130 she's bouncing around the Internet. 267 00:13:29,166 --> 00:13:31,426 She's visiting The Drudge Report, 268 00:13:31,466 --> 00:13:34,266 National Geographic, Southwest Airlines, 269 00:13:34,300 --> 00:13:37,270 just bouncing around, seemingly web-surfing. 270 00:13:37,300 --> 00:13:40,100 Velez-Mitchell: At one point, she sends her mother an e-mail 271 00:13:40,133 --> 00:13:42,333 listing a bunch of fares on Southwest Airlines, 272 00:13:42,366 --> 00:13:46,076 and then she enters a search for Rock Creek Park 273 00:13:46,116 --> 00:13:47,466 and the Klingle Mansion. 274 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:49,230 Ramsey: Once we got that information, 275 00:13:49,266 --> 00:13:52,226 we did begin a search of Rock Creek Park. 276 00:13:52,266 --> 00:13:54,426 Why the Klingle Mansion area? 277 00:13:54,466 --> 00:13:57,296 Well, it could be because of jogging. 278 00:13:57,333 --> 00:13:59,483 There are nice paths here. 279 00:14:00,016 --> 00:14:03,446 We've seen joggers here all morning and into the afternoon. 280 00:14:03,483 --> 00:14:08,053 Although we also heard that possibly she had a friend 281 00:14:08,083 --> 00:14:10,073 or acquaintance that she wanted to visit who lives 282 00:14:10,100 --> 00:14:13,470 in a small neighborhood near here. 283 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:16,220 Velez-Mitchell: She stops her Internet searches, 284 00:14:16,250 --> 00:14:23,350 and that is the last indication of Chandra Levy, 12:24 P.M. 285 00:14:23,383 --> 00:14:25,433 ♪♪ 286 00:14:25,466 --> 00:14:29,116 Tuchman: Police in Washington knew they had a, a volatile, 287 00:14:29,150 --> 00:14:32,080 potentially explosive investigation on their hands. 288 00:14:45,250 --> 00:14:48,100 Bob: Yeah. 289 00:14:48,133 --> 00:14:50,283 The parents of Chandra Levy are due back here 290 00:14:50,316 --> 00:14:53,166 in Washington later today to keep pressing police 291 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:55,330 and their Congressmen for information 292 00:14:55,366 --> 00:14:58,176 about their missing daughter. 293 00:14:58,216 --> 00:15:00,096 My name is Billy Martin. 294 00:15:00,133 --> 00:15:02,453 The Levys have retained our law firm 295 00:15:02,483 --> 00:15:06,023 to assist them in obtaining both information 296 00:15:06,050 --> 00:15:09,470 and, if necessary, to conduct an independent investigation 297 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:11,120 into the whereabouts 298 00:15:11,150 --> 00:15:14,350 or the facts surroundings Chandra's disappearance. 299 00:15:14,383 --> 00:15:20,133 I witnessed a mother and a father in deep depression. 300 00:15:20,166 --> 00:15:24,196 I witnessed a family without any answers to questions 301 00:15:24,233 --> 00:15:26,233 on what happened to their loved one, 302 00:15:26,266 --> 00:15:29,166 and the emotion level was very high. 303 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:31,030 Franken: This is an investigation now 304 00:15:31,066 --> 00:15:33,346 that has taken a large segment of the police force 305 00:15:33,383 --> 00:15:36,253 to the abandoned buildings of Northwest Washington. 306 00:15:36,283 --> 00:15:38,423 It is not, they say, that they've concluded 307 00:15:38,450 --> 00:15:41,120 that Chandra Levy, in fact, has met foul play. 308 00:15:41,150 --> 00:15:43,180 They just want to exhaust all possibilities. 309 00:15:43,216 --> 00:15:45,246 Velez-Mitchell: The police are just looking everywhere for Chandra. 310 00:15:45,283 --> 00:15:48,223 They're looking in warehouses and airports. 311 00:15:48,250 --> 00:15:51,050 A woman doesn't just disappear off the face of the Earth, 312 00:15:51,083 --> 00:15:53,423 but that's what appeared to have happened. 313 00:15:53,450 --> 00:15:55,450 Blitzer: Here in Washington, authorities plan to question 314 00:15:55,483 --> 00:15:57,483 Congressman Gary Condit of California 315 00:15:58,016 --> 00:16:00,046 over the disappearance of Chandra Levy. 316 00:16:00,083 --> 00:16:01,353 Ramsey: It was early in the investigation 317 00:16:01,383 --> 00:16:04,283 when it became known that she had an association 318 00:16:04,316 --> 00:16:06,146 with Mr. Condit, 319 00:16:06,183 --> 00:16:09,403 and certainly that was something that we wanted to follow up on, 320 00:16:09,433 --> 00:16:11,333 find out whether or not he had heard from her, 321 00:16:11,366 --> 00:16:13,246 if he knew anything. 322 00:16:13,283 --> 00:16:16,183 Tuchman: The police file indicates that when authorities, 323 00:16:16,216 --> 00:16:17,376 law-enforcement authorities in Washington, 324 00:16:17,416 --> 00:16:19,066 got in touch with Gary Condit... 325 00:16:19,100 --> 00:16:22,080 He starts this pattern of being evasive and vague. 326 00:16:22,116 --> 00:16:24,126 He says that he didn't know her well. 327 00:16:24,166 --> 00:16:28,466 What we're seeing is Gary Condit vigorously denying 328 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:32,150 that he had anything but a platonic relationship with her. 329 00:16:32,183 --> 00:16:35,323 The detective directly asked Gary Condit, 330 00:16:35,350 --> 00:16:42,020 "Did you have an intimate relationship with Ms. Levy?" 331 00:16:42,050 --> 00:16:46,050 He said, quote, "I don't think we need to go there. 332 00:16:46,083 --> 00:16:49,253 You can infer what you want from that." 333 00:16:49,283 --> 00:16:51,383 Reporter: What would you say to, to Mr. Condit? 334 00:16:51,416 --> 00:16:53,326 Come out with the truth. That's all. 335 00:16:53,366 --> 00:16:56,346 I want the truth. I want my daughter home. 336 00:16:56,383 --> 00:16:58,383 Reporter 2: Do you know anything about where Chandra Levy is? 337 00:16:58,416 --> 00:17:02,476 You can only get away so long with trying to deny something 338 00:17:03,016 --> 00:17:06,466 that is becoming more and more obvious. 339 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:10,420 Johns: There was no way you could see him as a sympathetic figure, 340 00:17:10,450 --> 00:17:12,370 it certainly made him look suspicious. 341 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:14,030 It made him look questionable. 342 00:17:14,066 --> 00:17:15,466 Woman: He lied to the police. 343 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:19,430 Where is Chandra Levy? Where is Chandra Levy? 344 00:17:21,150 --> 00:17:24,050 The more you withhold, willingly withhold, 345 00:17:24,083 --> 00:17:26,123 then it takes an investigator down a path. 346 00:17:26,150 --> 00:17:28,350 Why are you withholding information? 347 00:17:28,383 --> 00:17:32,203 I mean, what it is it that you're trying to hide? 348 00:17:32,233 --> 00:17:34,403 Blitzer: New reports are surfacing tonight about the relationship 349 00:17:34,433 --> 00:17:36,233 between a missing Washington intern 350 00:17:36,266 --> 00:17:39,016 and her U.S. Congressman from California. 351 00:17:39,050 --> 00:17:42,100 Velez-Mitchell: Chandra confided in her aunt, Linda Zamsky, 352 00:17:42,133 --> 00:17:44,253 that they were having an affair, 353 00:17:44,283 --> 00:17:47,253 and that it had to be top secret. 354 00:17:47,283 --> 00:17:50,353 Zamsky: We had conversations starting at Thanksgiving 355 00:17:50,383 --> 00:17:55,473 where she told me she was dating an older married man and I, 356 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:58,130 and he was a somebody powerful in, 357 00:17:58,166 --> 00:17:59,996 in Washington in the government. 358 00:18:00,033 --> 00:18:01,423 Tuchman: Chandra Levy told her aunt 359 00:18:01,450 --> 00:18:06,250 that when she would visit Gary Condit 360 00:18:06,283 --> 00:18:11,273 he had told that she had to wear a ball cap out in public 361 00:18:11,300 --> 00:18:15,050 so no one would be recognized. 362 00:18:15,083 --> 00:18:17,103 Franken: Did she ever describe her feelings 363 00:18:17,133 --> 00:18:19,073 about Congressman Condit's marriage? 364 00:18:19,100 --> 00:18:23,070 No, no, only that she knew that his wife was sickly 365 00:18:23,100 --> 00:18:26,370 and that it was a marriage of convenience for him. 366 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:32,070 Chandra told her that Gary Condit was her man 367 00:18:32,100 --> 00:18:35,220 and that she was in love with her man. 368 00:18:35,250 --> 00:18:38,050 Franken: Did she describe her hopes for the relationship? 369 00:18:38,083 --> 00:18:41,273 Keep it low-key and then move past that in 5 years. 370 00:18:41,300 --> 00:18:44,270 For some reason, he had something going on in politics 371 00:18:44,300 --> 00:18:47,030 and then hopefully have a relationship, 372 00:18:47,066 --> 00:18:49,466 that they could come out and be together in public, 373 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:52,170 get married, have a family. 374 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:55,100 How did you make the whole Linda Zamsky story? 375 00:18:55,133 --> 00:18:57,203 I just, it was unbelievable. 376 00:18:57,233 --> 00:18:58,253 Because? 377 00:18:58,283 --> 00:19:01,053 Well, I just, I mean, the accusations 378 00:19:01,083 --> 00:19:04,403 of some of the things that were said were just unbelievable. 379 00:19:04,433 --> 00:19:06,233 I, I'd never heard any of that. 380 00:19:06,266 --> 00:19:09,396 I mean, what she said was new to me. 381 00:19:09,433 --> 00:19:12,333 Geragos: There was never any suggestion or whiff of scandal 382 00:19:12,366 --> 00:19:15,296 or anything else in connection with him. 383 00:19:15,333 --> 00:19:20,083 On the adultery angle of this case, 384 00:19:20,116 --> 00:19:24,426 I generally don't even want to know from the client. 385 00:19:24,466 --> 00:19:29,146 I think they still have a right of privacy and dignity. 386 00:19:29,183 --> 00:19:31,253 Velez-Mitchell: There's a lot of unanswered questions. 387 00:19:31,283 --> 00:19:34,173 Here's a woman who called her aunt and said, 388 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:38,320 "I have big news," just a couple of days before she vanished. 389 00:19:38,350 --> 00:19:42,030 The aunt never called her back, but what was the big news? 390 00:19:42,066 --> 00:19:44,216 Some people wonder, "Could she have been pregnant?" 391 00:19:44,250 --> 00:19:48,080 Blitzer: Was Chandra pregnant at any time during their relationship? 392 00:19:48,116 --> 00:19:51,126 That seems to be a question that's asked quite frequently, 393 00:19:51,166 --> 00:19:54,046 and what I have indicated to both the FBI 394 00:19:54,083 --> 00:19:56,473 and to the D.C. Police, that I would not at all comment 395 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:58,430 on that issue. 396 00:19:58,466 --> 00:20:01,066 But you never knew whether she was pregnant or not? 397 00:20:01,100 --> 00:20:02,120 -No. -She could've been? 398 00:20:02,150 --> 00:20:03,270 I don't know. 399 00:20:03,300 --> 00:20:05,250 Crowd: [ Chanting ] Where is Chandra? 400 00:20:05,283 --> 00:20:08,083 Where is Chandra? Where is Chandra? 401 00:20:08,116 --> 00:20:10,196 Geragos: Gary Condit had absolutely nothing to do 402 00:20:10,233 --> 00:20:12,473 with Chandra's disappearance. 403 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:15,320 This was the kind of irrational feeding frenzy 404 00:20:15,350 --> 00:20:20,220 that had subsumed the public, and the media by definition had, 405 00:20:20,250 --> 00:20:22,280 had colored this to the point 406 00:20:22,316 --> 00:20:27,246 where you could not talk in a rational way about this case. 407 00:20:27,283 --> 00:20:29,233 Todd: Reports are coming out of the woodwork, 408 00:20:29,266 --> 00:20:33,146 incredibly exaggerated, almost fantasized reports, 409 00:20:33,183 --> 00:20:36,333 the reports that she was buried in a parking lot somewhere. 410 00:20:36,366 --> 00:20:39,076 The development is, is that D.C. Police 411 00:20:39,116 --> 00:20:41,196 have told CNN that they are, 412 00:20:41,233 --> 00:20:43,253 in fact, going to follow up on a tip 413 00:20:43,283 --> 00:20:46,353 that Chandra Levy was buried under a parking lot 414 00:20:46,383 --> 00:20:49,053 under construction by Fort Lee. 415 00:20:49,083 --> 00:20:50,453 There are cadaver dogs down there. 416 00:20:50,483 --> 00:20:52,283 They're organizing a search. 417 00:20:52,316 --> 00:20:54,426 Police have to take all these things seriously, 418 00:20:54,466 --> 00:20:56,466 and it just, it takes up their time. 419 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:59,430 It takes up their resources. Very, very frustrating. 420 00:20:59,466 --> 00:21:01,366 The investigation into the disappearance 421 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:04,100 of Washington intern Chandra Levy 422 00:21:04,133 --> 00:21:06,023 has led to new questions surrounding 423 00:21:06,050 --> 00:21:08,370 Congressman Gary Condit and his relationship 424 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:10,470 with an airline flight attendant. 425 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:12,200 I remember when Anne Marie Smith, 426 00:21:12,233 --> 00:21:14,003 the flight attendant, came forward. 427 00:21:14,033 --> 00:21:15,403 I remember when she was on "Larry King Live," 428 00:21:15,433 --> 00:21:19,483 and she talked about an alleged relationship with Gary Condit. 429 00:21:20,016 --> 00:21:22,416 We became friends, started seeing each other, 430 00:21:22,450 --> 00:21:26,270 started calling, spent a lot of time together. 431 00:21:26,300 --> 00:21:30,320 Did you feel like you were harming his wife? 432 00:21:30,350 --> 00:21:32,120 I did. 433 00:21:32,150 --> 00:21:33,330 I was very concerned about that. 434 00:21:33,366 --> 00:21:35,076 But? 435 00:21:35,116 --> 00:21:37,096 But Mr. Condit told me 436 00:21:37,133 --> 00:21:38,433 she was very ill, and that they were, 437 00:21:38,466 --> 00:21:43,346 they didn't really have a husband-wife relationship. 438 00:21:43,383 --> 00:21:45,403 It's all tabloid stuff. I mean, that's -- 439 00:21:45,433 --> 00:21:48,173 But she had all this apparent evidence. I mean, she -- 440 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:49,480 Well, yeah, she says she has evidence. 441 00:21:50,016 --> 00:21:51,346 You know, it's just all tabloid stuff. 442 00:21:51,383 --> 00:21:53,323 Alright. What is the story -- It's some of the people that -- 443 00:21:53,350 --> 00:21:55,020 From your viewpoint? It's tabloid. 444 00:21:55,050 --> 00:21:56,250 It's, you know -- You mean you don't know her? 445 00:21:56,283 --> 00:21:57,453 She has nothing to do with Chandra Levy. 446 00:21:57,483 --> 00:22:00,023 No, I know who she is, but it's, it's all, 447 00:22:00,050 --> 00:22:01,480 it has nothing to do with Chandra Levy. 448 00:22:02,016 --> 00:22:05,316 ♪♪ 449 00:22:05,350 --> 00:22:08,220 Karas: Days after Anne Marie Smith told her story, 450 00:22:08,250 --> 00:22:13,150 Gary Condit was interviewed by the police for the third time, 451 00:22:13,183 --> 00:22:17,403 and he finally admitted his relationship with Chandra Levy. 452 00:22:17,433 --> 00:22:19,073 During an hour-and-a-half interview 453 00:22:19,100 --> 00:22:21,030 between Condit and police officials, 454 00:22:21,066 --> 00:22:23,216 Condit acknowledged under direct question that, 455 00:22:23,250 --> 00:22:25,280 in fact, it was a romantic relationship. 456 00:22:25,316 --> 00:22:27,176 Why did it take him so long? 457 00:22:27,216 --> 00:22:30,016 I didn't have any particular impressions of Gary Condit 458 00:22:30,050 --> 00:22:33,400 other than he was an individual that had something to hide, 459 00:22:33,433 --> 00:22:36,123 which obviously having an affair if you're married 460 00:22:36,150 --> 00:22:38,370 is not something that most men 461 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:40,220 would want to be forthcoming about, 462 00:22:40,250 --> 00:22:46,270 but whether it was more than that remained to be seen. 463 00:22:46,300 --> 00:22:48,370 Washington police are bringing in 50 police recruits 464 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:51,320 to help comb areas around the apartment of Chandra Levy. 465 00:22:51,350 --> 00:22:55,180 They're focusing on 2,800 acres in Rock Creek Park. 466 00:22:55,216 --> 00:22:58,126 Rock Creek Park is a huge, huge park. 467 00:22:58,166 --> 00:22:59,416 You had a lot of overgrowth. 468 00:22:59,450 --> 00:23:03,020 You had a lot of things there that perhaps evidence 469 00:23:03,050 --> 00:23:04,450 could be hidden underneath, 470 00:23:04,483 --> 00:23:07,283 and so you have to carefully grid it out 471 00:23:07,316 --> 00:23:10,066 in order to know that you've done a complete search. 472 00:23:10,100 --> 00:23:14,270 It took, it took weeks for us to have gone through the, the park. 473 00:23:14,300 --> 00:23:16,250 Velez-Mitchell: Was she murdered? Was she kidnapped? 474 00:23:16,283 --> 00:23:18,253 Was she hiding out somewhere? 475 00:23:18,283 --> 00:23:20,033 Had she committed suicide? 476 00:23:20,066 --> 00:23:22,316 We had zero answers. 477 00:23:22,350 --> 00:23:25,020 Kobilinsky: There was a fella who was walking his dog, 478 00:23:25,050 --> 00:23:30,170 and his dog had gone up a hill and come back with a bone. 479 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:37,070 Welcome back to "How It Really Happened." 480 00:23:37,100 --> 00:23:38,400 I'm Hill Harper. 481 00:23:38,433 --> 00:23:40,423 To legions of Gary Condit critics, 482 00:23:40,450 --> 00:23:42,350 the Congressman deserved all the doubts 483 00:23:42,383 --> 00:23:44,423 America was harboring about him. 484 00:23:44,450 --> 00:23:46,470 His detractors said he misled the police, 485 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:48,350 the media and the public 486 00:23:48,383 --> 00:23:51,303 by not telling all he knew about Chandra Levy, 487 00:23:51,333 --> 00:23:54,223 and Condit's evasions about Chandra made investigators 488 00:23:54,250 --> 00:23:55,420 want to probe 489 00:23:55,450 --> 00:23:59,350 whether he had anything to do with her disappearance. 490 00:23:59,383 --> 00:24:02,403 Franken: Congressman Gary Condit has just put out an announcement, 491 00:24:02,433 --> 00:24:05,423 announcing where he will do the hard-fought-for 492 00:24:05,450 --> 00:24:08,470 first television interview, a network-television interview, 493 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:10,300 that has been awaited almost since 494 00:24:10,333 --> 00:24:12,203 the beginning of the Chandra Levy case. 495 00:24:12,233 --> 00:24:13,403 We're starting down here? 496 00:24:13,433 --> 00:24:16,433 On August 23rd, 2001, three and a half months 497 00:24:16,466 --> 00:24:18,376 after her disappearance, Gary Condit, 498 00:24:18,416 --> 00:24:21,296 after having issued statements through his aides, 499 00:24:21,333 --> 00:24:23,133 he finally goes on a, 500 00:24:23,166 --> 00:24:25,446 on a televised interview on ABC with Connie Chung. 501 00:24:25,483 --> 00:24:27,153 They pick Connie Chung 502 00:24:27,183 --> 00:24:29,283 thinking they're going to get an easy ride, 503 00:24:29,316 --> 00:24:32,266 but nothing could be further from the truth. 504 00:24:32,300 --> 00:24:35,100 May I ask you, was it a sexual relationship? 505 00:24:35,133 --> 00:24:37,253 Well, Connie, I've been married for 34 years, 506 00:24:37,283 --> 00:24:39,473 and I've not been a, a perfect man, 507 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,120 and I've made my share of mistakes, 508 00:24:42,150 --> 00:24:45,130 but out of respect for my family 509 00:24:45,166 --> 00:24:49,096 and out of a specific request from the Levy family, 510 00:24:49,133 --> 00:24:52,483 I think it's best that I not get into those details 511 00:24:53,016 --> 00:24:54,116 about Chandra Levy. 512 00:24:54,150 --> 00:24:58,250 I never requested anything from him except that, 513 00:24:58,283 --> 00:25:00,383 "Do you know where my daughter is?" 514 00:25:00,416 --> 00:25:02,126 It's painful. 515 00:25:02,166 --> 00:25:06,196 I don't, it's like a Cheshire cat 516 00:25:06,233 --> 00:25:08,073 because there were a lot of women. 517 00:25:08,100 --> 00:25:13,130 Once you put or inject adultery into the mix, 518 00:25:13,166 --> 00:25:15,196 there are certain people who are unforgiving 519 00:25:15,233 --> 00:25:19,103 and make the illogical leap that if you're an adulterer, 520 00:25:19,133 --> 00:25:21,033 therefore, you could be a murderer. 521 00:25:21,066 --> 00:25:22,196 Do you have any idea 522 00:25:22,233 --> 00:25:25,073 if there was anyone who wanted to harm her? 523 00:25:25,100 --> 00:25:26,220 No. 524 00:25:26,250 --> 00:25:28,450 Did you cause anyone to harm her? 525 00:25:28,483 --> 00:25:30,153 No. 526 00:25:30,183 --> 00:25:31,483 Did you kill Chandra Levy? 527 00:25:32,016 --> 00:25:33,116 I did not. 528 00:25:33,150 --> 00:25:36,270 He's basically monosyllabic. 529 00:25:36,300 --> 00:25:43,030 "No," and he just really doesn't elaborate on anything. 530 00:25:43,066 --> 00:25:45,416 Geragos: I think Gary would agree with this. 531 00:25:45,450 --> 00:25:50,270 You couldn't have done a worse interview if you had tried. 532 00:25:53,016 --> 00:25:59,266 ♪♪ 533 00:25:59,300 --> 00:26:02,150 Crowley: It's now been 10 months since Chandra Levy vanished 534 00:26:02,183 --> 00:26:04,083 here in Washington, and the FBI tells 535 00:26:04,116 --> 00:26:07,396 CNN there is not much new to report in the investigation. 536 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:13,330 They didn't find anything for over a year, 537 00:26:13,366 --> 00:26:18,366 and what happened was they got lucky. 538 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:21,200 There was a fella who was walking his dog in, 539 00:26:21,233 --> 00:26:25,033 in this relatively forested area in the park, 540 00:26:25,066 --> 00:26:28,096 not near one of the major thoroughfares, 541 00:26:28,133 --> 00:26:33,383 and his dog had gone up a hill and come back with a bone. 542 00:26:33,416 --> 00:26:36,176 He found what appeared to be a human skull. 543 00:26:39,016 --> 00:26:40,996 Blitzer: Human remains were found. 544 00:26:41,033 --> 00:26:45,233 The police raise the possibility it's Chandra Levy. 545 00:26:45,266 --> 00:26:48,166 A report comes in that the remains of Chandra Levy 546 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:51,430 may have been found in Rock Creek Park. 547 00:26:51,466 --> 00:26:55,196 Police race to the scene, this remote area. 548 00:26:55,233 --> 00:26:58,103 The remains are scattered around a tree. 549 00:26:58,133 --> 00:27:01,023 Not laying in open ground, flat ground. 550 00:27:01,050 --> 00:27:05,050 It was, like, at the bottom of a, a ravine. 551 00:27:05,083 --> 00:27:08,353 Velez-Mitchell: And they see a tennis sneaker. 552 00:27:08,383 --> 00:27:11,083 They see a sports bra. 553 00:27:11,116 --> 00:27:16,316 They see a T-shirt that says property of USC athletics. 554 00:27:16,350 --> 00:27:21,130 They see jogging pants, stretch jogging pants, 555 00:27:21,166 --> 00:27:27,276 inside out, and each leg is tied in a knot. 556 00:27:27,316 --> 00:27:34,016 That was a really, really gut-wrenching discovery. 557 00:27:34,050 --> 00:27:38,220 It seemed like this was a scene of a terrible struggle. 558 00:27:38,250 --> 00:27:40,300 Brown: The news came about 6 P.M. 559 00:27:40,333 --> 00:27:43,253 from the police chief who had the sad news 560 00:27:43,283 --> 00:27:46,183 that Chandra Levy was the victim who had been discovered here 561 00:27:46,216 --> 00:27:48,046 at Rock Creek Park. 562 00:27:48,083 --> 00:27:53,273 Ramsey: We have received word from the D.C. Medical Examiner's Office 563 00:27:53,300 --> 00:27:56,270 that the remains found earlier today are, 564 00:27:56,300 --> 00:27:58,350 in fact, Chandra Levy. 565 00:27:58,383 --> 00:28:02,123 The identification was made through dental records. 566 00:28:02,150 --> 00:28:05,420 Finally, finally, they found the remains, 567 00:28:05,450 --> 00:28:07,180 and then, of course, we all wanted to know 568 00:28:07,216 --> 00:28:08,346 what took so long. 569 00:28:08,383 --> 00:28:10,103 Blitzer: Washington police today acknowledged 570 00:28:10,133 --> 00:28:12,473 they did not search the specific spot last year 571 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,330 in a park where Chandra Levy's remains were found. 572 00:28:15,366 --> 00:28:18,276 The area is now the focus of an intense hunt for clues 573 00:28:18,316 --> 00:28:22,276 to try to find out when and how the former intern died. 574 00:28:22,316 --> 00:28:26,176 Had the police properly searched Rock Creek Park, 575 00:28:26,216 --> 00:28:29,246 had they not delayed in searching Rock Creek Park 576 00:28:29,283 --> 00:28:32,273 at all and had they, in fact, 577 00:28:32,300 --> 00:28:37,020 expanded their search to 70 yards off a footpath 578 00:28:37,050 --> 00:28:41,220 as opposed to 70 yards off a road for automobiles, 579 00:28:41,250 --> 00:28:43,150 they would have found the remains 580 00:28:43,183 --> 00:28:47,153 of Chandra Levy early on. 581 00:28:47,183 --> 00:28:49,003 Now that they've found her remains, 582 00:28:49,033 --> 00:28:50,403 investigators are back on the scene 583 00:28:50,433 --> 00:28:52,373 in Washington's Rock Creek Park, 584 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:55,470 seeking clues to the cause of Levy's death. 585 00:28:56,016 --> 00:28:58,176 She left her apartment with her keys 586 00:28:58,216 --> 00:29:01,046 but apparently little else. 587 00:29:01,083 --> 00:29:04,383 Supposedly, they said that she went jogging in the park, 588 00:29:04,416 --> 00:29:09,466 and I questioned, "Well, where's her keys?" 589 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:11,350 I don't know where the keys were. 590 00:29:11,383 --> 00:29:13,273 She usually wears a necklace. 591 00:29:13,300 --> 00:29:15,370 Nobody ever found them. 592 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:23,050 Something inside me says there's more than what is said. 593 00:29:23,083 --> 00:29:26,033 McCann: What everybody tells me is that she didn't like Rock Creek Park, 594 00:29:26,066 --> 00:29:28,396 and she was afraid to go to Rock Creek Park to jog, 595 00:29:28,433 --> 00:29:31,323 and the trail that she's discovered on 596 00:29:31,350 --> 00:29:35,020 is not a jogging trail, it's more of a horse trail. 597 00:29:35,050 --> 00:29:38,330 And you have to ask yourself, what was she going there for? 598 00:29:38,366 --> 00:29:40,066 And the only conclusion is she was going there 599 00:29:40,100 --> 00:29:41,180 to meet somebody. 600 00:29:41,216 --> 00:29:43,016 Did she meet that person? 601 00:29:43,050 --> 00:29:45,300 Did that person cause injury to her? 602 00:29:45,333 --> 00:29:47,373 If she did not meet that person, 603 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,330 was she intercepted along the way 604 00:29:49,366 --> 00:29:52,476 and never got a chance to meets that person 605 00:29:53,016 --> 00:29:57,016 because some third party caused this foul play? 606 00:29:57,050 --> 00:29:59,380 So the mystery only broadened. 607 00:29:59,416 --> 00:30:02,366 We discovered the remains but not the answers. 608 00:30:05,333 --> 00:30:09,023 A series of embarrassments for the police department 609 00:30:09,050 --> 00:30:11,420 in a case that the world was watching. 610 00:30:17,166 --> 00:30:19,116 With the mystery of Chandra Levy's whereabouts solved now, 611 00:30:19,150 --> 00:30:21,230 police in Washington have turned their attention 612 00:30:21,266 --> 00:30:23,996 to how the missing intern died. 613 00:30:24,033 --> 00:30:27,123 Today police cadets searched Rock Creek Park, 614 00:30:27,150 --> 00:30:30,250 where Levy's body was found, for more possible evidence. 615 00:30:30,283 --> 00:30:32,403 Going on right now just behind me, 616 00:30:32,433 --> 00:30:36,073 various police officers are extending the crime scene. 617 00:30:36,100 --> 00:30:39,020 That is going to be, of course, so they can search this area, 618 00:30:39,050 --> 00:30:43,050 looking for clues, looking for some of the remains. 619 00:30:43,083 --> 00:30:49,273 Susan: My question is, was she dead for a year before she was found? 620 00:30:49,300 --> 00:30:51,480 Wow-- I'm sorry, but I have -- 621 00:30:52,016 --> 00:30:53,196 Yeah, well, just believe what you want. 622 00:30:53,233 --> 00:30:57,133 I, I, I, I toy with everything that's a scenario 623 00:30:57,166 --> 00:31:01,076 that could or may have happened. 624 00:31:01,116 --> 00:31:04,016 In this case, there was not sufficient evidence 625 00:31:04,050 --> 00:31:06,430 to ascertain conclusively the specific injury 626 00:31:06,466 --> 00:31:08,326 that caused her death. 627 00:31:08,366 --> 00:31:10,476 However, the circumstances of her disappearance 628 00:31:11,016 --> 00:31:13,446 and her body of recovery are indicative 629 00:31:13,483 --> 00:31:16,133 that she died through the acts of another person, 630 00:31:16,166 --> 00:31:20,066 which is the definition of a homicidal manner of death. 631 00:31:20,100 --> 00:31:22,120 Now there is a bone in the neck. 632 00:31:22,150 --> 00:31:24,100 It's called the hyoid bone. 633 00:31:24,133 --> 00:31:26,103 It's a very fragile bone. 634 00:31:26,133 --> 00:31:29,053 Very often when you have a strangulation, 635 00:31:29,083 --> 00:31:31,403 that hyoid bone is fractured, 636 00:31:31,433 --> 00:31:36,103 and it's one of the pieces of evidence of a strangulation. 637 00:31:36,133 --> 00:31:41,373 Now, that hyoid bone was found fractured in Chandra Levy. 638 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:45,300 However, it doesn't conclusively mean she was strangled. 639 00:31:45,333 --> 00:31:47,383 It's a possibility. 640 00:31:51,066 --> 00:31:55,176 Ramsey: The fact that her body had laid there for so long in the open, 641 00:31:55,216 --> 00:31:57,476 the chance of recovering any kind of forensic evidence 642 00:31:58,016 --> 00:32:00,126 that would help us solve the case was, 643 00:32:00,166 --> 00:32:02,316 for all practical purposes, not there. 644 00:32:02,350 --> 00:32:04,250 These parents had been through so much. 645 00:32:04,283 --> 00:32:07,303 They did not trust that the police were doing 646 00:32:07,333 --> 00:32:10,303 a thorough enough search to find more clues. 647 00:32:10,333 --> 00:32:14,073 They had their lawyers work with private investigators, 648 00:32:14,100 --> 00:32:17,020 their own people, to go into Rock Creek Park 649 00:32:17,050 --> 00:32:19,120 to see what else they could find. 650 00:32:19,150 --> 00:32:23,370 McCann: I went back there just to see what I could see, 651 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,170 and when I got there, I noticed 652 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:28,330 that there was still a lot of debris on the ground, 653 00:32:28,366 --> 00:32:33,216 in particular, leaves, and so I was a little puzzled 654 00:32:33,250 --> 00:32:37,050 how you could search with so many leaves on the ground, 655 00:32:37,083 --> 00:32:40,153 so I decided to get a rake and just start raking, 656 00:32:40,183 --> 00:32:43,153 and within minutes, 657 00:32:43,183 --> 00:32:48,183 I discovered her femur bone, the largest bone in the body. 658 00:32:48,216 --> 00:32:51,146 After this embarrassment in which private investigators 659 00:32:51,183 --> 00:32:55,233 found some remains the police did not find, the police, 660 00:32:55,266 --> 00:32:58,476 embarrassed, went back into the woods in Rock Creek Park, 661 00:32:59,016 --> 00:33:02,066 and they did indeed find more, more bones. 662 00:33:02,100 --> 00:33:04,250 Ramsey: That sort of thing is sloppy, it shouldn't have happened. 663 00:33:04,283 --> 00:33:08,273 Now, in all fairness, there were, you know, 664 00:33:08,300 --> 00:33:10,230 some wildlife that had gotten to the remains, 665 00:33:10,266 --> 00:33:11,446 and there was some scattered remains. 666 00:33:11,483 --> 00:33:15,473 It wasn't like, you know, it was all in, in one location. 667 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:19,050 The last week or so has produced a lot of information, 668 00:33:19,083 --> 00:33:21,253 not enough to go beyond designating 669 00:33:21,283 --> 00:33:23,123 this a homicide at this point, 670 00:33:23,150 --> 00:33:27,120 not enough to specify exactly how Chandra Levy was killed, 671 00:33:27,150 --> 00:33:28,420 but that is just one of the mysteries 672 00:33:28,450 --> 00:33:31,320 that now proceeds as the investigation goes on. 673 00:33:31,350 --> 00:33:33,100 Of course, the ultimate mystery is, 674 00:33:33,133 --> 00:33:35,153 who is responsible for her death? 675 00:33:35,183 --> 00:33:37,023 Early on -- police will acknowledge this -- 676 00:33:37,050 --> 00:33:40,330 They were looking very, very closely at Gary Condit 677 00:33:40,366 --> 00:33:44,216 because of his evasiveness, because of the alleged affair, 678 00:33:44,250 --> 00:33:48,100 but as time went on, there was no other evidence. 679 00:33:48,133 --> 00:33:53,023 He's got probably the best alibi you could possibly have. 680 00:33:53,050 --> 00:33:54,420 Todd: Chandra Levy had signed off her computer 681 00:33:54,450 --> 00:33:57,170 at 12:24 P.M. on May 1st. 682 00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:01,100 Gary Condit on that day in the 11 o'clock A.M. hour, 683 00:34:01,133 --> 00:34:04,023 he had gone to meet with Vice President Dick Cheney 684 00:34:04,050 --> 00:34:06,370 to discuss energy problems in California. 685 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:10,230 He's having lunch with the Vice President of the United States. 686 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,220 Well, if not him, who was it? 687 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,430 The Washington Post focusing on subjects 688 00:34:20,466 --> 00:34:22,216 other than Gary Condit. 689 00:34:22,250 --> 00:34:25,230 Well, one of the subjects of their investigation 690 00:34:25,266 --> 00:34:29,016 was a Salvadoran immigrant who had been convicted 691 00:34:29,050 --> 00:34:31,430 of attacking two women in Rock Creek Park. 692 00:34:31,466 --> 00:34:34,396 And one of them sees the story and says, "Oh, my God. 693 00:34:34,433 --> 00:34:37,123 Why aren't they looking at the guy who attacked me? 694 00:34:37,150 --> 00:34:39,050 It was right in that area, 695 00:34:39,083 --> 00:34:44,353 and it would be an obvious suspect." 696 00:34:44,383 --> 00:34:48,153 Toddy: His name is Ingmar Guandique. 697 00:34:48,183 --> 00:34:51,333 It turns out that the chief suspect had been hiding 698 00:34:51,366 --> 00:34:53,226 in plain sight the entire time. 699 00:34:53,266 --> 00:34:56,346 Police had spoken with Guandique early in the case, 700 00:34:56,383 --> 00:34:59,173 and he actually said that he recognized Chandra's picture 701 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:00,370 from seeing her in the park 702 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,480 but denied having anything to do with her disappearance, 703 00:35:04,016 --> 00:35:07,246 but when new detectives took over in 2007, 704 00:35:07,283 --> 00:35:09,353 years after her remains were found, 705 00:35:09,383 --> 00:35:11,183 he became the prime suspect. 706 00:35:11,216 --> 00:35:14,216 He was convicted for taking women joggers, 707 00:35:14,250 --> 00:35:16,220 trying to grab them behind the back 708 00:35:16,250 --> 00:35:18,120 and hold them at knifepoint. 709 00:35:20,483 --> 00:35:26,233 Apparently, this is somebody who got his kicks assaulting women. 710 00:35:31,250 --> 00:35:32,300 "Happy birthday. Love, Uncle Paul and Linda." 711 00:35:32,333 --> 00:35:35,233 -Aw. -[ Laughs ] 712 00:35:35,266 --> 00:35:38,996 I'll open the gift. 713 00:35:39,033 --> 00:35:42,203 Thank you. -Did you get a gift with that? 714 00:35:42,233 --> 00:35:46,383 Yes, I did. Thank you. 715 00:35:46,416 --> 00:35:51,066 Karas: In April 2001, Chandra celebrated her 24th birthday. 716 00:35:51,100 --> 00:35:54,150 Her parents came from California, of course, 717 00:35:54,183 --> 00:35:58,203 never knowing that it would be one of the last times 718 00:35:58,233 --> 00:36:03,233 they would ever spend with her and certainly her last birthday. 719 00:36:03,266 --> 00:36:05,476 Lemon: A source close to the investigation confirms 720 00:36:06,016 --> 00:36:07,476 that the suspect in the Chandra Levy case 721 00:36:08,016 --> 00:36:10,996 is Ingmar Guandique. 722 00:36:11,033 --> 00:36:14,053 One thing leads to another, and all of a sudden, 723 00:36:14,083 --> 00:36:16,323 this is the guy who killed Chandra Levy. 724 00:36:16,350 --> 00:36:23,020 Franken: Apparently, this is somebody who got his kicks assaulting women 725 00:36:23,050 --> 00:36:25,300 and particularly women who had gone down 726 00:36:25,333 --> 00:36:28,153 to secluded parts of Rock Creek Park. 727 00:36:28,183 --> 00:36:31,203 He had a violence problem. 728 00:36:31,233 --> 00:36:34,283 He had an alcohol and a drug problem. 729 00:36:34,316 --> 00:36:37,046 Tuchman: There were similarities in these cases. 730 00:36:37,083 --> 00:36:40,203 In all three of the cases, the women were white. 731 00:36:40,233 --> 00:36:42,253 The women were wearing gym clothes. 732 00:36:42,283 --> 00:36:46,373 The women had Walkmen with them, listening to music. 733 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:49,250 Guandique is detained by the U.S. Park Police. 734 00:36:49,283 --> 00:36:51,003 During their interview with him, 735 00:36:51,033 --> 00:36:53,103 he is shown a missing-person flier 736 00:36:53,133 --> 00:36:55,183 with a picture of Chandra Levy, and he's asked, 737 00:36:55,216 --> 00:36:57,266 "Have you ever seen this person in Rock Creek Park?" 738 00:36:57,300 --> 00:36:58,450 And he says, "Yes." 739 00:36:58,483 --> 00:37:01,233 He's then asked if he thought she was attractive, 740 00:37:01,266 --> 00:37:03,016 and again, he says, "Yes." 741 00:37:03,050 --> 00:37:04,180 He didn't show up for work the day 742 00:37:04,216 --> 00:37:07,226 that Chandra went missing, and he had a cut lip 743 00:37:07,266 --> 00:37:10,316 and scratches around his throat and a bloodied eye. 744 00:37:10,350 --> 00:37:12,070 Tuchman: During the course of this investigation, 745 00:37:12,100 --> 00:37:15,420 their antennae sprung up when they heard about an inmate 746 00:37:15,450 --> 00:37:18,030 who had been in prison with Guandique. 747 00:37:18,066 --> 00:37:20,446 This man, who turned out to be 748 00:37:20,483 --> 00:37:22,333 what is known as a jailhouse snitch, 749 00:37:22,366 --> 00:37:27,276 said Guandique admitted to him that he murdered Chandra Levy. 750 00:37:27,316 --> 00:37:30,116 On the strength of that, 751 00:37:30,150 --> 00:37:32,330 the prosecutors then built a case. 752 00:37:32,366 --> 00:37:34,346 According to court documents, 753 00:37:34,383 --> 00:37:39,033 Ingmar Guandique told at least two people that he killed Levy. 754 00:37:39,066 --> 00:37:42,216 Guandique, who is in prison for assaulting two women, 755 00:37:42,250 --> 00:37:45,320 also kept a picture of Levy in his cell. 756 00:37:45,350 --> 00:37:48,020 Just a really creepy guy. 757 00:37:48,050 --> 00:37:49,270 Bolduan: The jury, just a short time ago, 758 00:37:49,300 --> 00:37:53,030 handed down a guilty verdict in Chandra Levy's murder trial. 759 00:37:53,066 --> 00:37:56,346 Ingmar Guandique faces life without parole. 760 00:37:56,383 --> 00:38:00,453 I have a lifetime sentence of a lost limb 761 00:38:00,483 --> 00:38:03,123 missing from our family tree. 762 00:38:03,150 --> 00:38:06,000 It's painful, but I have a feeling 763 00:38:06,033 --> 00:38:09,373 that my daughter is with me. 764 00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:11,470 Karas: Guandique was convicted of her murder 765 00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:13,380 and sentenced to 60 years. 766 00:38:13,416 --> 00:38:16,396 Key evidence that helped convict Guandique 767 00:38:16,433 --> 00:38:19,253 was a jailhouse snitch, a guy named Morales. 768 00:38:19,283 --> 00:38:24,153 Well, about 5 years into his sentence, 769 00:38:24,183 --> 00:38:28,153 prosecutors learn that Morales has a credibility problem, 770 00:38:28,183 --> 00:38:32,003 which casts doubt on the key evidence. 771 00:38:32,033 --> 00:38:35,323 It turns out the snitch in jail, surprise, surprise, 772 00:38:35,350 --> 00:38:39,270 isn't of complete ethical standings. 773 00:38:39,300 --> 00:38:41,420 Based on this new information challenging 774 00:38:41,450 --> 00:38:44,470 Morales' credibility, Guandique's conviction 775 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:46,300 is vacated, 776 00:38:46,333 --> 00:38:49,273 and he's facing a retrial, 777 00:38:49,300 --> 00:38:53,280 but then prosecutors decide they don't have enough evidence. 778 00:38:53,316 --> 00:38:57,096 There was no DNA, no blood, no material evidence 779 00:38:57,133 --> 00:38:58,473 that connects him to the case, 780 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,030 and there's a lot of unanswered questions. 781 00:39:01,066 --> 00:39:02,466 Grace: Bombshell Tonight. 782 00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:07,070 The man convicted of murdering Chandra Levy 783 00:39:07,100 --> 00:39:11,380 has just been released, all charges dropped. 784 00:39:11,416 --> 00:39:13,466 They don't have proof beyond a reasonable doubt, 785 00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:20,020 so they dismiss the charges, and immigration holds Guandique. 786 00:39:20,050 --> 00:39:25,030 Tuchman: Chandra Levy disappeared in May of 2001. 787 00:39:25,066 --> 00:39:29,046 Sixteen years later in May of 2017, 788 00:39:29,083 --> 00:39:34,123 Ingmar Guandique was led away on a small airplane 789 00:39:34,150 --> 00:39:38,120 here in the United States and flown back to El Salvador, 790 00:39:38,150 --> 00:39:41,030 deported from this country. 791 00:39:41,066 --> 00:39:44,346 Phillips: So it was so sad to think you had answers, 792 00:39:44,383 --> 00:39:47,403 and then that was retracted, and now, to this day, 793 00:39:47,433 --> 00:39:53,283 we still are not for sure who killed Chandra Levy. 794 00:39:53,316 --> 00:39:57,016 We suspected Mr. Guandique of that homicide, 795 00:39:57,050 --> 00:39:59,430 and he may indeed be the person. 796 00:39:59,466 --> 00:40:04,016 Franken: If it is not Guandique, then who's out there? 797 00:40:04,050 --> 00:40:07,120 Geragos: Gary Condit's been vindicated, 798 00:40:07,150 --> 00:40:10,180 not as much as he should be in the public's eye, 799 00:40:10,216 --> 00:40:13,096 but ultimately, I think he has been vindicated. 800 00:40:16,366 --> 00:40:21,466 Phillips: It's heart-wrenching, heart-wrenching to never, 801 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:25,120 ever know who killed your child. 802 00:40:25,150 --> 00:40:28,320 I just can't believe that this has happened, and -- 803 00:40:28,350 --> 00:40:32,230 Yeah. I think it's like a can of worms 804 00:40:32,266 --> 00:40:37,076 and untied ends, and somewhere in the universe, 805 00:40:37,116 --> 00:40:39,426 somebody knows what really happened. 806 00:40:39,466 --> 00:40:40,446 I don't know -- Yeah. 807 00:40:40,483 --> 00:40:42,103 Who did it. 808 00:40:42,133 --> 00:40:44,433 All I know is someone is responsible. 809 00:40:44,466 --> 00:40:47,196 Yeah. And I don't have my child. 810 00:40:47,233 --> 00:40:50,053 It's a nightmare. 811 00:40:50,083 --> 00:40:52,033 Ramsey: What I'd want to say to the Levys 812 00:40:52,066 --> 00:40:53,276 if I could see them now 813 00:40:53,316 --> 00:40:56,066 is that, you know, the case is still there. 814 00:40:56,100 --> 00:40:58,320 People still care. People are still working. 815 00:40:58,350 --> 00:41:03,070 Somebody knows who killed Chandra Levy. 816 00:41:03,100 --> 00:41:04,320 Somebody knows. 817 00:41:04,350 --> 00:41:10,180 Chandra had a saying, and I really thought it was profound. 818 00:41:10,216 --> 00:41:14,166 She'll say, "What difference does it make?" 819 00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:15,300 Yeah. 820 00:41:15,333 --> 00:41:19,173 And that is profound to me. Yeah. 821 00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:25,320 ♪♪ 822 00:41:25,350 --> 00:41:29,330 Mr. Condit declined our request for comment or interview. 823 00:41:29,366 --> 00:41:31,476 As parents of a murdered daughter, Susan and Robert Levy 824 00:41:32,016 --> 00:41:35,266 will never give up their quest to find Chandra's killer. 825 00:41:35,300 --> 00:41:38,150 They hold out hope for some future advancement 826 00:41:38,183 --> 00:41:41,333 in forensic technology that could uncover physical evidence, 827 00:41:41,366 --> 00:41:44,066 and they hold on to the firm belief 828 00:41:44,100 --> 00:41:47,100 that there is someone out there who knows something. 829 00:41:47,133 --> 00:41:51,133 Until then, Susan tells everyone, "There is no closure," 830 00:41:51,166 --> 00:41:55,116 and she's not alone since the Chandra Levy case still endures 831 00:41:55,150 --> 00:41:59,270 as one of Washington's most infamous unsolved murders. 832 00:41:59,300 --> 00:42:02,150 Thanks for watching and good night. 833 00:42:02,183 --> 00:42:05,483 [ Musical flourish ] 68341

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