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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,383 --> 00:00:08,083 ♪♪ 2 00:00:08,116 --> 00:00:16,076 I think I want to be remembered is what I will do tomorrow. 3 00:00:16,116 --> 00:00:17,416 What I did is boring to me. 4 00:00:17,450 --> 00:00:20,470 I think I'm too classic. 5 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:27,170 ♪♪ 6 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:33,380 ♪♪ 7 00:00:33,416 --> 00:00:34,996 Welcome to "How It Really Happened." 8 00:00:35,033 --> 00:00:36,283 I'm Hill Harper. 9 00:00:36,316 --> 00:00:37,416 Even if you're not a fashionista, 10 00:00:37,450 --> 00:00:40,120 you've probably heard of Gianni Versace. 11 00:00:40,150 --> 00:00:41,420 Not only because of his work as one of the world's 12 00:00:41,450 --> 00:00:43,330 most beloved fashion designers, 13 00:00:43,366 --> 00:00:46,066 but also because of his shocking death. 14 00:00:46,100 --> 00:00:49,150 Versace was cut down in his prime in broad daylight 15 00:00:49,183 --> 00:00:53,053 in a trendy Miami neighborhood teeming with tourists. 16 00:00:53,083 --> 00:00:55,303 What you may not know is that Gianni Versace 17 00:00:55,333 --> 00:00:57,253 was just one victim of a troubled young man 18 00:00:57,283 --> 00:00:59,473 whose murderous rampage had people living in fear 19 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:03,450 from coast to coast in the spring and summer of 1997. 20 00:01:03,483 --> 00:01:07,023 Here's how it really happened. 21 00:01:07,050 --> 00:01:14,120 ♪♪ 22 00:01:14,150 --> 00:01:16,320 Gianni Versace was it. 23 00:01:16,350 --> 00:01:19,200 Velez-Mitchell: I mean, he was the perfect meld 24 00:01:19,233 --> 00:01:22,233 of celebrity and fashion. 25 00:01:22,266 --> 00:01:25,216 He came on the scene like a meteor, like a nova. 26 00:01:25,250 --> 00:01:28,420 The clothes were very sexy, very revealing. 27 00:01:28,450 --> 00:01:31,370 He brought sex back to fashion. 28 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:35,230 And he was associated with the biggest names in the news. 29 00:01:35,266 --> 00:01:37,216 Ball: He was friends with Princess Diana, 30 00:01:37,250 --> 00:01:40,230 who was the ultimate trophy celebrity of the 1990s. 31 00:01:40,266 --> 00:01:43,226 He was friends with Madonna, who really turned to Versace 32 00:01:43,266 --> 00:01:46,016 to remake her look at a certain point. 33 00:01:46,050 --> 00:01:49,230 Velez-Mitchell: Everyone from Cher, Elton John, Calvin Klein. 34 00:01:49,266 --> 00:01:51,016 Ball: He was friends with Sylvester Stallone, 35 00:01:51,050 --> 00:01:52,200 with Cindy Crawford. 36 00:01:52,233 --> 00:01:53,373 He hung out with them. 37 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:55,250 He put them in the front rows of his fashion shows. 38 00:01:55,283 --> 00:01:56,403 He dressed them. 39 00:01:56,433 --> 00:01:59,423 He really was the celebrity designer of the 1990s. 40 00:02:08,316 --> 00:02:12,176 Gianni Versace came from the poorest area of Italy. 41 00:02:12,216 --> 00:02:14,346 In the early '70s, about 1972, 42 00:02:14,383 --> 00:02:16,223 he moved north, he moved to Milan, 43 00:02:16,250 --> 00:02:19,170 which was really just emerging as a fashion capital. 44 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:21,380 From there, he embarked in the world and started to open 45 00:02:21,416 --> 00:02:23,326 more boutiques, and his brand just really grew 46 00:02:23,366 --> 00:02:25,196 exponentially from there. 47 00:02:30,150 --> 00:02:33,330 He came to Miami in 1991 to open a second boutique, 48 00:02:33,366 --> 00:02:35,366 and he fell in love with the city. 49 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:37,380 He bought this extraordinary place. 50 00:02:37,416 --> 00:02:40,226 It was right on South Beach. 51 00:02:40,266 --> 00:02:42,466 Woman: They call it the crown jewel of Miami Beach, 52 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:44,220 Casa Casuarina. 53 00:02:44,250 --> 00:02:47,380 A 23,000 square feet palace with 10 bedrooms, 54 00:02:47,416 --> 00:02:51,196 11 baths, including one custom made suite for Madonna. 55 00:02:51,233 --> 00:02:53,173 Velez-Mitchell: It was truly spectacular, 56 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:55,070 and the notable thing, 57 00:02:55,100 --> 00:02:58,100 it's right there on the main drag in South beach. 58 00:02:58,133 --> 00:03:00,473 Solomon: Versace decided to live right in the middle 59 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:02,230 of Ocean Drive. 60 00:03:02,266 --> 00:03:05,276 He was at the epicenter of everything. 61 00:03:05,316 --> 00:03:08,146 He felt secure enough in this community, 62 00:03:08,183 --> 00:03:12,173 he would walk up and down Ocean Drive on a regular basis, 63 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:15,370 without escorts, without body guards. 64 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:18,320 We mentioned that a couple of times about not having security, 65 00:03:18,350 --> 00:03:19,430 bodyguards or anything like that. 66 00:03:19,466 --> 00:03:24,166 But Gianni wanted to be with the people. 67 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:26,150 His family was not pleased at all. 68 00:03:26,183 --> 00:03:29,003 Velez-Mitchell: Donatella and other relatives 69 00:03:29,033 --> 00:03:32,073 were telling Gianni, "Watch out. You're too exposed. 70 00:03:32,100 --> 00:03:36,000 You're too out in the open. Anybody can target you." 71 00:03:36,033 --> 00:03:37,133 But he wasn't afraid. 72 00:03:37,166 --> 00:03:39,196 Velez-Mitchell: Poor Gianni Versace probably has 73 00:03:39,233 --> 00:03:43,053 no idea that there's this mad man on a cross country 74 00:03:43,083 --> 00:03:46,073 killing spree, and they are on a collision course 75 00:03:46,100 --> 00:03:49,320 and nobody has any idea where this guy is. 76 00:03:49,350 --> 00:03:59,050 ♪♪ 77 00:03:59,083 --> 00:04:00,483 Cossack: We're looking at the mysterious murder of 78 00:04:01,016 --> 00:04:04,166 Chicago real estate mogul, Lee Miglin. 79 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:07,280 Cronin: Lee Miglin was a very, very rich man in Chicago. 80 00:04:07,316 --> 00:04:11,176 He and his partner had a real estate management team. 81 00:04:11,216 --> 00:04:15,096 Lee was a very prominent Chicagoan. 82 00:04:15,133 --> 00:04:17,033 People knew Marilyn and Lee Miglin 83 00:04:17,066 --> 00:04:19,116 for many years on Oak Street. 84 00:04:19,150 --> 00:04:21,130 Man: With Lee Miglin's encouragement, 85 00:04:21,166 --> 00:04:22,126 Marilyn was inspired to found 86 00:04:22,166 --> 00:04:24,246 her own successful cosmetic company. 87 00:04:24,283 --> 00:04:27,303 She had just come back from doing one of her 88 00:04:27,333 --> 00:04:31,153 Home Shopping events in Canada, and was surprised 89 00:04:31,183 --> 00:04:33,023 when Lee wasn't at the airport to pick her up 90 00:04:33,050 --> 00:04:35,120 because he always picked her up personally. 91 00:04:35,150 --> 00:04:38,020 So she ended up going in a cab and going home. 92 00:04:38,050 --> 00:04:39,370 Martin: First of all, their front gate isn't locked. 93 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:40,450 That strikes her as a little odd. 94 00:04:40,483 --> 00:04:42,283 Apparently it always it. 95 00:04:42,316 --> 00:04:44,316 The front window curtains are pulled closed, 96 00:04:44,350 --> 00:04:45,480 which was also unusual. 97 00:04:46,016 --> 00:04:48,196 But when she got into the apartment, it was apparent 98 00:04:48,233 --> 00:04:51,083 that somebody other than her husband had been there. 99 00:04:51,116 --> 00:04:53,316 Zwecker: She knew something was wrong. 100 00:04:53,350 --> 00:04:55,220 Reporter: Police found the murdered Miglin 101 00:04:55,250 --> 00:04:57,100 in a pool of blood. 102 00:04:57,133 --> 00:04:59,073 We are treating this case as a homicide, 103 00:04:59,100 --> 00:05:01,350 and the investigation is under way. 104 00:05:05,050 --> 00:05:08,480 Fortunately, it was the police, and not Marilyn, 105 00:05:09,016 --> 00:05:12,076 that discovered the body. 106 00:05:12,116 --> 00:05:15,096 It was torture, plain and simple. 107 00:05:15,416 --> 00:05:20,066 His head was fully wrapped in masking tape. 108 00:05:20,100 --> 00:05:23,280 His head was almost completely severed with a garden saw. 109 00:05:23,316 --> 00:05:27,146 Just for good measure, he then throws two cement bags 110 00:05:27,183 --> 00:05:28,403 on top of his victim's body 111 00:05:28,433 --> 00:05:32,183 and he breaks every rib in his body. 112 00:05:32,216 --> 00:05:34,226 It was like something out of a horror movie. 113 00:05:34,266 --> 00:05:40,046 And then the killer stays in the house, shaves, takes a bath, 114 00:05:40,083 --> 00:05:43,133 eats a ham sandwich, leaves all these clues behind. 115 00:05:43,166 --> 00:05:46,166 There was some dirty dishes, which was unlike her husband, 116 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:48,080 and there was also some beard stubble 117 00:05:48,116 --> 00:05:50,366 from an electric razor in a bathroom 118 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:53,200 which is unlike her husband apparently. 119 00:05:53,233 --> 00:05:58,033 That level of comfort does not exist in random burglaries 120 00:05:58,066 --> 00:06:00,346 where they want to get in and get out immediately. 121 00:06:00,383 --> 00:06:02,483 There was a very close neighbor of the Miglins 122 00:06:03,016 --> 00:06:06,366 who saw Lee Miglin out in the alley the night before 123 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:09,120 he was murdered with a young man. 124 00:06:10,466 --> 00:06:12,096 Here's the million dollar question about 125 00:06:12,133 --> 00:06:13,083 the Miglin murder. 126 00:06:13,116 --> 00:06:14,216 Jordan: Did they know each other? 127 00:06:14,250 --> 00:06:16,350 Was there any kind of prior relationship? 128 00:06:16,383 --> 00:06:20,173 I mean, this man had no enemies. 129 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:23,150 Graves: The Miglin family and the police have always said 130 00:06:23,183 --> 00:06:26,183 that this was a random act of violence. 131 00:06:26,216 --> 00:06:28,116 Zwecker: Yeah, the line "random act of violence" 132 00:06:28,150 --> 00:06:29,380 became sort of the buzzword 133 00:06:29,416 --> 00:06:34,466 for the entire connection involving Lee Miglin. 134 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:39,180 If that was a random act of violence, I'm George Clooney. 135 00:06:39,216 --> 00:06:41,426 And my apologies to George Clooney. 136 00:06:41,466 --> 00:06:45,026 There was nothing random about that. 137 00:06:45,066 --> 00:06:48,026 It became what we call in law enforcement, 138 00:06:48,066 --> 00:06:49,446 "a heater case." 139 00:06:49,483 --> 00:06:56,033 Because the governor's office calls, the mayor's office calls, 140 00:06:56,066 --> 00:07:00,446 even the cardinal's office calls, "How's this going?" 141 00:07:00,483 --> 00:07:02,323 A couple of days after the Miglin murder, 142 00:07:02,350 --> 00:07:06,270 a crucial clue turned up, a red jeep parked 143 00:07:06,300 --> 00:07:08,400 around the corner from Lee Miglin's home. 144 00:07:08,433 --> 00:07:11,453 Chicago Police realize from tips 145 00:07:11,483 --> 00:07:14,183 that this jeep has parking tickets on it. 146 00:07:14,216 --> 00:07:16,296 It's nearby. It's suspicious. 147 00:07:16,333 --> 00:07:18,073 People said it had been parked there 148 00:07:18,100 --> 00:07:20,350 and that nobody had claimed it. 149 00:07:20,383 --> 00:07:23,303 And so they ran the plate, and that's when they tracked it 150 00:07:23,333 --> 00:07:26,283 back to a murder vehicle in Minnesota. 151 00:07:26,316 --> 00:07:28,176 The Chicago Police Department today announced 152 00:07:28,216 --> 00:07:30,996 a warrant for the arrest of Andrew Cunanan 153 00:07:31,033 --> 00:07:33,053 in connection with the Miglin murder. 154 00:07:33,083 --> 00:07:37,103 King: Everyone was asking, "Who is Andrew Cunanan?" 155 00:07:37,133 --> 00:07:39,323 Fleissner: This is a really bad person. 156 00:07:39,350 --> 00:07:42,270 ♪♪ 157 00:07:47,033 --> 00:07:48,073 Versace: Miami is cool. 158 00:07:48,100 --> 00:07:51,080 Miami is a place where you can be yourself. 159 00:07:51,116 --> 00:07:54,046 It's simple, beautiful, the weather's fantastic. 160 00:07:54,083 --> 00:07:56,173 I'm very serene there. 161 00:07:59,450 --> 00:08:03,300 Ball: In July, 1997, Gianni Versace was in Paris. 162 00:08:03,333 --> 00:08:06,123 He was planning and organizing his last couture show. 163 00:08:06,150 --> 00:08:08,280 So when he finished his show, he was really looking forward 164 00:08:08,316 --> 00:08:12,266 to having a couple of weeks of rest in Miami. 165 00:08:12,300 --> 00:08:15,380 He liked to be outside. He liked to be in crowds. 166 00:08:15,416 --> 00:08:18,296 The interaction was nothing more than a wave and a hello. 167 00:08:18,333 --> 00:08:20,383 He just had a very good time. 168 00:08:20,416 --> 00:08:26,266 He had no clue, no idea that a psycho is tracking him down 169 00:08:26,300 --> 00:08:29,150 and about to kill him. 170 00:08:29,183 --> 00:08:32,103 Reporter: A nationwide manhunt is on for a California man, 171 00:08:32,133 --> 00:08:34,023 wanted for murder in Minnesota, 172 00:08:34,050 --> 00:08:37,380 and now suspected in the slaying of a Chicago real estate mogul. 173 00:08:37,416 --> 00:08:41,246 King: Everyone was asking, "Who is Andrew Cunanan?" 174 00:08:41,283 --> 00:08:44,033 If you think about all the people that you've met 175 00:08:44,066 --> 00:08:46,346 in your life, that you've shaken hands with and talked to, 176 00:08:46,383 --> 00:08:49,073 and you've been like, "This is a really bad person." 177 00:08:49,100 --> 00:08:50,480 It doesn't happen very often. 178 00:08:51,016 --> 00:08:54,146 Maybe two times in your life, maybe three? 179 00:08:54,183 --> 00:08:57,283 I definitely felt that from Andrew right from the beginning. 180 00:08:57,316 --> 00:09:01,076 The one thing that everyone seems to agree with about 181 00:09:01,116 --> 00:09:04,246 Andrew Cunanan is that he was an incredibly accomplished phony 182 00:09:04,283 --> 00:09:06,433 and a fake and a narcissist. 183 00:09:06,466 --> 00:09:09,996 Velez-Mitchell: He wanted everything that comes to people 184 00:09:10,033 --> 00:09:11,283 who work hard without working hard. 185 00:09:11,316 --> 00:09:14,446 The best cars, the best homes, the greatest parties, 186 00:09:14,483 --> 00:09:17,423 the fabulous dinners at the best restaurants, 187 00:09:17,450 --> 00:09:20,370 but he didn't want to do a day of work. 188 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:22,000 Fleissner: He always had money. 189 00:09:22,033 --> 00:09:23,253 We wondered, you know, how does he have money? 190 00:09:23,283 --> 00:09:24,473 Why does he have money? 191 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:27,120 First we were like, maybe he's independently wealthy. 192 00:09:27,150 --> 00:09:29,100 Maybe he was selling drugs. 193 00:09:29,133 --> 00:09:30,403 Maybe he's a kept man. 194 00:09:30,433 --> 00:09:33,303 White: His mother is the one that actually originally said 195 00:09:33,333 --> 00:09:35,473 that he was a high class homosexual prostitute. 196 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:38,230 I never knew him as a gigolo. 197 00:09:38,266 --> 00:09:41,076 He was very articulate, very knowledgeable 198 00:09:41,116 --> 00:09:43,166 in fine wines, clothes. 199 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:47,150 Velez-Mitchell: Here with a guy who was very smart 200 00:09:47,183 --> 00:09:48,373 and very educated. 201 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:52,150 That's why he was able to get these wealthy sugar daddies, 202 00:09:52,183 --> 00:09:55,403 because he read books, he researched his sugar daddies, 203 00:09:55,433 --> 00:09:57,033 what their interests were, 204 00:09:57,066 --> 00:09:59,246 and then he would become an expert in that subject. 205 00:09:59,283 --> 00:10:01,283 Like, something out of a film noir. 206 00:10:01,316 --> 00:10:04,216 I never heard the word "gigolo", 207 00:10:04,250 --> 00:10:07,070 just that he was jet setting around 208 00:10:07,100 --> 00:10:12,170 and had an elaborate lifestyle. 209 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:13,470 King: Did you wonder how he got the money 210 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:15,170 to have that lifestyle? 211 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:19,050 Johnson: Yes, I often, you know, questioned it. 212 00:10:22,483 --> 00:10:26,323 Andrew Cunanan always had his eye on the big prize, 213 00:10:26,350 --> 00:10:28,430 a wealthy patron or benefactor. 214 00:10:28,466 --> 00:10:32,016 Now, there are rumors that he actually met 215 00:10:32,050 --> 00:10:35,380 Gianni Versace back in 1991. 216 00:10:35,416 --> 00:10:40,196 We interviewed two people in San Francisco that say that 217 00:10:40,233 --> 00:10:45,003 Cunanan and Versace were seen together at a club. 218 00:10:45,466 --> 00:10:47,316 Gruenwald: Apparently Versace was in San Francisco 219 00:10:47,350 --> 00:10:51,120 designing costumes for the San Francisco Opera, 220 00:10:51,150 --> 00:10:54,470 and Cunanan told me that when he met Versace, 221 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:58,030 he said, "Yeah, right, you're Versace, 222 00:10:58,066 --> 00:11:01,016 and I'm Coco Chanel, nice to meet you." 223 00:11:02,466 --> 00:11:06,246 He is probably thinking, "Gianni Versace really likes me. 224 00:11:06,283 --> 00:11:08,023 He's paying attention to me. 225 00:11:08,050 --> 00:11:10,370 He's going to be my next great patron." 226 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:13,100 And of course, this is all a fantasy in his mind. 227 00:11:13,133 --> 00:11:19,153 ♪♪ 228 00:11:19,183 --> 00:11:22,403 He grew up in a relatively modest, even poor family. 229 00:11:22,433 --> 00:11:25,223 An Italian mother, a Filipino father, 230 00:11:25,250 --> 00:11:28,250 who had a terribly dysfunctional marriage. 231 00:11:28,283 --> 00:11:30,033 He was the youngest of four children, 232 00:11:30,066 --> 00:11:32,476 and absolutely everyone agrees spoiled. 233 00:11:33,016 --> 00:11:36,296 Cunanan: A spoiled kid never hears the word "no" too often. 234 00:11:36,333 --> 00:11:38,183 I used to think to myself, "Well, one day 235 00:11:38,216 --> 00:11:41,246 he's going to have to deal with hearing the word no." 236 00:11:41,283 --> 00:11:44,203 You know, but he was so intelligent 237 00:11:44,233 --> 00:11:47,003 that I think if he would have applied himself, 238 00:11:47,033 --> 00:11:48,383 he could have done anything that he wanted. 239 00:11:48,416 --> 00:11:51,446 Allegedly he scored a 145 on his IQ test, 240 00:11:51,483 --> 00:11:53,023 and that was enough to get him 241 00:11:53,050 --> 00:11:55,180 into a very prestigious prep school. 242 00:11:55,216 --> 00:11:58,096 Reporter: Cunanan attended the Bishop's School in La Jolla. 243 00:11:58,133 --> 00:12:01,403 Jordan: Where he could commute to school, 244 00:12:01,433 --> 00:12:05,003 hobnob and rub shoulders with the rich and famous kids, 245 00:12:05,033 --> 00:12:06,383 learn from them, study their ways, 246 00:12:06,416 --> 00:12:08,346 be able to speak their language, 247 00:12:08,383 --> 00:12:11,253 and then go home where no one was possibly 248 00:12:11,283 --> 00:12:14,023 going to ever see the little house that he lived in. 249 00:12:14,050 --> 00:12:18,080 That's key, because then he saw how the other half lived. 250 00:12:18,116 --> 00:12:21,076 And he said, "Uh-huh, I've seen both sides of the tracks, 251 00:12:21,116 --> 00:12:23,446 and I know which side of the tracks I want to live on. 252 00:12:23,483 --> 00:12:25,383 The rich side." 253 00:12:25,416 --> 00:12:27,466 Except he wasn't from a rich family. 254 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:29,170 He began lying. 255 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:31,370 Klaidman: There does seem to be a lot of evidence that 256 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:37,120 Andrew Cunanan was someone who felt tremendous insecurities, 257 00:12:37,150 --> 00:12:39,350 and had some kind of a compunction 258 00:12:39,383 --> 00:12:42,073 to tell tall tales about himself. 259 00:12:42,100 --> 00:12:45,250 Whitmore: Andrew had told me that he held dual citizenship 260 00:12:45,283 --> 00:12:47,083 in Israel and the United States, 261 00:12:47,116 --> 00:12:49,026 and had served in the Israeli Army. 262 00:12:49,066 --> 00:12:50,996 White: He told us that he was from the Philippines 263 00:12:51,033 --> 00:12:53,053 and his family had money from a sugar business 264 00:12:53,083 --> 00:12:54,353 or sugar refinery there. 265 00:12:54,383 --> 00:12:57,233 Horne: He told me that his father was a big-time 266 00:12:57,266 --> 00:13:01,046 businessman and had set him up with a business making 267 00:13:01,083 --> 00:13:03,203 pre-fabricated sets for Hollywood. 268 00:13:03,233 --> 00:13:05,423 He told me he went to Yale and that he was an heir to 269 00:13:05,450 --> 00:13:07,150 the Scripps newspaper fortune. 270 00:13:07,183 --> 00:13:10,333 Cunanan: He always had a taste for the finer things in life. 271 00:13:10,366 --> 00:13:14,076 So maybe he fabricated these stories 272 00:13:14,116 --> 00:13:16,016 so that he could fit in better. 273 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:23,050 Everyone describes Andrew as being obviously gay. 274 00:13:23,083 --> 00:13:25,273 For his family, even though it was as clear as day 275 00:13:25,300 --> 00:13:28,170 to every around them, they wouldn't believe it. 276 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:30,430 King: Are you saying he was not gay? 277 00:13:30,466 --> 00:13:32,396 By the way, it's no sin to be gay. 278 00:13:32,433 --> 00:13:34,173 No. 279 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:35,170 You're saying he was not. 280 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:37,450 He was not. I knew the kid. 281 00:13:37,483 --> 00:13:39,353 I knew him. 282 00:13:39,383 --> 00:13:43,103 I knew his dates when he was in high school. 283 00:13:43,133 --> 00:13:44,233 Junior, senior prom, 284 00:13:44,266 --> 00:13:47,176 I had to caution him on several occasions. 285 00:13:47,216 --> 00:13:51,096 and in no uncertain terms, "Don't get that girl pregnant, 286 00:13:51,133 --> 00:13:53,003 you're going to be in trouble." 287 00:13:53,033 --> 00:13:57,083 I was surprised because Andrew never admitted it openly, 288 00:13:57,116 --> 00:13:58,426 and I wanted him to know that I loved him 289 00:13:58,466 --> 00:14:02,266 regardless if he was an it or a she or a he or what. 290 00:14:02,300 --> 00:14:04,320 I gave birth to him. 291 00:14:04,350 --> 00:14:05,480 Jordan: In his high school year book, 292 00:14:06,016 --> 00:14:07,446 not only was he voted most likely to be remembered, 293 00:14:07,483 --> 00:14:10,433 but he chose under his own photo, 294 00:14:10,466 --> 00:14:13,246 a famous quote from Louie XIV. 295 00:14:13,283 --> 00:14:15,073 "Apres moi, le deluge." 296 00:14:15,100 --> 00:14:17,080 Velez-Mitchell: "After me, the storm." 297 00:14:17,116 --> 00:14:22,166 He was really predicting that he would go down in history, 298 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:25,270 that he would achieve something. 299 00:14:25,300 --> 00:14:28,430 He really was a person of two faces. 300 00:14:28,466 --> 00:14:30,366 He was unraveling on drugs. 301 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:33,380 He was deeper and deeper into this very rough pornography. 302 00:14:33,416 --> 00:14:37,446 Velez-Mitchell: Andrew Cunanan is coming apart at the seams. 303 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:45,370 You know, you have to really break a barrier every day. 304 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:50,020 Fashion to me, born and die every day. 305 00:14:50,050 --> 00:14:52,080 It's really tragic when you look at it 306 00:14:52,116 --> 00:14:55,016 that there seem to be parallel paths. 307 00:14:55,050 --> 00:14:57,350 Gianni Versace, rising in the world, 308 00:14:57,383 --> 00:14:59,183 achieving more and more, 309 00:14:59,216 --> 00:15:01,196 becoming a celebrity in his own right, 310 00:15:01,233 --> 00:15:05,083 and this Andrew Cunanan, at the same time almost 311 00:15:05,116 --> 00:15:08,046 living a parallel life, but it's all fantasy. 312 00:15:08,083 --> 00:15:13,103 ♪♪ 313 00:15:13,133 --> 00:15:15,303 Fleissner: Jeff was a Midwest guy. 314 00:15:15,333 --> 00:15:21,053 Super warm, friendly, outgoing, and a very genuine person. 315 00:15:21,083 --> 00:15:23,253 So he was like a brother to us. 316 00:15:23,283 --> 00:15:25,333 There were a few people that he hung out with regularly 317 00:15:25,366 --> 00:15:27,046 that were good friends of his, 318 00:15:27,083 --> 00:15:30,053 and one of them was Andrew Cunanan. 319 00:15:30,083 --> 00:15:32,383 Whitmore: They were inseparable. I mean, when they were in the -- 320 00:15:32,416 --> 00:15:34,196 King: Not lovers but friends, or both? 321 00:15:34,233 --> 00:15:36,303 As far as I know, they never went out 322 00:15:36,333 --> 00:15:39,333 with each other sexually. 323 00:15:39,366 --> 00:15:40,346 But they were close friends? 324 00:15:40,383 --> 00:15:41,373 Very close friends. 325 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:44,150 Orth: Jeff Trail had come to San Diego 326 00:15:44,183 --> 00:15:46,433 as a young Annapolis graduate in the Navy, 327 00:15:46,466 --> 00:15:50,016 and he was just coming out as a homosexual. 328 00:15:50,050 --> 00:15:52,330 And Andrew was the bon vivant in all the clubs, 329 00:15:52,366 --> 00:15:55,476 and he introduced Jeff and set him up and took him around. 330 00:15:56,016 --> 00:15:58,096 Fleissner: Andrew wasn't ever mean to Jeff. 331 00:15:58,133 --> 00:16:00,123 He tried to be controlling of Jeff. 332 00:16:00,150 --> 00:16:02,180 If Jeff was in the room, Andrew wanted 333 00:16:02,216 --> 00:16:05,226 his full attention the whole time that he was around. 334 00:16:05,266 --> 00:16:08,246 "Look at me, look at me, look what I'm doing." 335 00:16:08,283 --> 00:16:10,483 He was just a braggart. 336 00:16:11,016 --> 00:16:13,426 He was, you know, just a total -- 337 00:16:13,466 --> 00:16:15,296 he was a total asshole. 338 00:16:15,333 --> 00:16:17,003 Whitmore: He wanted to be everybody's friend. 339 00:16:17,033 --> 00:16:20,073 He would come up, and he'd buy 6, 10 drinks, for people, 340 00:16:20,100 --> 00:16:22,180 you know, a lot of times for people he didn't even know. 341 00:16:22,216 --> 00:16:25,066 With his sort of more down to earth buddies, 342 00:16:25,100 --> 00:16:27,380 he's buying drinks and playing the big shot. 343 00:16:27,416 --> 00:16:32,296 Then he's got a whole different persona for the sugar daddies. 344 00:16:32,333 --> 00:16:35,333 He's this high society, affected guy 345 00:16:35,366 --> 00:16:38,426 who's quoting this, that, and the other 346 00:16:38,466 --> 00:16:40,176 from books he's read. 347 00:16:40,216 --> 00:16:43,266 For a while, he was supported by a very wealthy man in 348 00:16:43,300 --> 00:16:46,370 La Jolla who took him around to Europe with him, et cetera. 349 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:49,070 So this sugar daddy gives Andrew Cunanan 350 00:16:49,100 --> 00:16:50,150 all that he wants. 351 00:16:50,183 --> 00:16:51,453 You know, gives him a luxury car to drive. 352 00:16:51,483 --> 00:16:55,033 A $2,500 monthly allowance. 353 00:16:55,066 --> 00:16:58,076 He really was a person of two faces. 354 00:16:58,116 --> 00:17:02,296 He simply had a life by day and a life by night. 355 00:17:02,333 --> 00:17:07,303 Then, in 1995, something very unexpected happened 356 00:17:07,333 --> 00:17:09,273 in Andrew Cunanan's life. 357 00:17:09,300 --> 00:17:11,120 He fell in love. 358 00:17:15,300 --> 00:17:17,400 Velez-Mitchell: David Madsen was this good-looking, 359 00:17:17,433 --> 00:17:21,273 clean cut guy, just a poster boy. 360 00:17:21,300 --> 00:17:24,020 Orth: Andrew met him, he picked him up actually 361 00:17:24,050 --> 00:17:26,470 when David was on a business trip in San Francisco. 362 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:29,070 Hovland: Andrew probably saw the same thing 363 00:17:29,100 --> 00:17:30,370 that everybody did in David. 364 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:34,220 David had a charisma about him. 365 00:17:34,250 --> 00:17:37,280 David's eyes were beautiful blue. 366 00:17:37,316 --> 00:17:41,166 He had an aura about him, a big personality. 367 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:43,480 His laugh was contagious. [ Chuckles ] 368 00:17:44,016 --> 00:17:47,226 People just loved being around David. 369 00:17:47,266 --> 00:17:50,246 Velez-Mitchell: David Madsen was intrigued by Andrew Cunanan. 370 00:17:50,283 --> 00:17:52,203 Andrew Cunanan was mysterious 371 00:17:52,233 --> 00:17:55,233 and was living this glamorous life, 372 00:17:55,266 --> 00:17:58,216 but David could never quite figure out what was going on. 373 00:17:58,250 --> 00:18:00,400 Benning: He told me about Andrew Cunanan keeps calling him 374 00:18:00,433 --> 00:18:03,223 and pursuing him, and that he wanted nothing to do with him. 375 00:18:03,250 --> 00:18:05,300 He says, "I think he's into something shady, Dianne." 376 00:18:05,333 --> 00:18:08,073 Orth: He was known as this sort of happy go lucky, 377 00:18:08,100 --> 00:18:12,380 sort of gay social director of the gay community in San Diego. 378 00:18:12,416 --> 00:18:15,096 But there were darker sides to him. 379 00:18:15,133 --> 00:18:16,473 He is alleged to be a drug dealer. 380 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:21,000 He's alleged to have also been into crack himself, 381 00:18:21,033 --> 00:18:26,083 and S&M pornography and S&M sadistic sex. 382 00:18:27,316 --> 00:18:29,166 Velez-Mitchell: For a while, things were going great 383 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:32,170 with Andrew, but there was a point in 1996 384 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:35,250 where everything started going to hell in a hand basket. 385 00:18:35,283 --> 00:18:39,023 Andrew was, you know, trying to establish this relationship 386 00:18:39,050 --> 00:18:41,250 with David and sort of all falls apart. 387 00:18:43,350 --> 00:18:45,030 He wasn't paying his bills. 388 00:18:45,066 --> 00:18:47,426 He had tons of debt on credit cards. 389 00:18:47,466 --> 00:18:51,146 He was in major depression. He wasn't himself. 390 00:18:51,183 --> 00:18:54,173 He let his weight get out of control. 391 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:56,150 Fleissner: The last time I saw him, it was a barbecue. 392 00:18:56,183 --> 00:18:58,353 Everyone's in T-shirts, flip-flops, and shorts, 393 00:18:58,383 --> 00:19:00,383 and Andrew walks in his three piece suit. 394 00:19:00,416 --> 00:19:02,316 I hadn't seen him for a couple months, and I just said, 395 00:19:02,350 --> 00:19:05,250 "Andrew, oh, my God, you look so fat. 396 00:19:05,283 --> 00:19:07,253 What happened to you?" 397 00:19:07,283 --> 00:19:10,083 Velez-Mitchell: His con jobs weren't working anymore. 398 00:19:10,116 --> 00:19:13,016 His sugar daddy was getting tired of his demands 399 00:19:13,050 --> 00:19:14,280 for more, more, more. 400 00:19:14,316 --> 00:19:17,096 So sugar daddy said bye-bye. 401 00:19:17,133 --> 00:19:19,473 At the same time, the love of his life, 402 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:21,450 the man he really wanted to be with 403 00:19:21,483 --> 00:19:24,303 was getting sick and tired of the lies and the mystery. 404 00:19:24,333 --> 00:19:28,483 So David Madsen also said, "Hmm, not so much." 405 00:19:29,016 --> 00:19:31,116 Navarro: After the string of really bad news, 406 00:19:31,150 --> 00:19:32,370 it gets even more. 407 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:35,250 His friend Jeff Trail says to him, "I'm leaving. 408 00:19:35,283 --> 00:19:38,033 I'm moving to Minneapolis." 409 00:19:38,066 --> 00:19:40,146 I vaguely remember him saying something that he was upset 410 00:19:40,183 --> 00:19:42,473 that Jeff was leaving town. 411 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:48,180 And he was just -- he wasn't happy with Jeff's decision. 412 00:19:48,216 --> 00:19:50,476 This was a double rejection for Cunanan, 413 00:19:51,016 --> 00:19:52,276 losing his best friend 414 00:19:52,316 --> 00:19:55,216 and the man that he really wanted to be with. 415 00:19:55,250 --> 00:19:57,300 Orth: His whole facade was crumbling. 416 00:19:57,333 --> 00:19:59,453 He became filled with rage, 417 00:19:59,483 --> 00:20:03,103 and he was going to get back at those people who had used him, 418 00:20:03,133 --> 00:20:05,403 he thought, because he was always paying for the drinks 419 00:20:05,433 --> 00:20:08,453 and hanging out in the bars and taking care of everybody, 420 00:20:08,483 --> 00:20:11,023 and what were they doing for him? 421 00:20:12,333 --> 00:20:17,453 In April 1997, Andrew Cunanan makes a life-altering decision. 422 00:20:17,483 --> 00:20:23,123 He buys a ticket to Minneapolis, a one-way ticket, 423 00:20:23,150 --> 00:20:24,420 first class, of course. 424 00:20:24,450 --> 00:20:27,050 Apparently, he told friends in San Diego 425 00:20:27,083 --> 00:20:31,203 that he was going to Minneapolis to visit David Madsen. 426 00:20:31,233 --> 00:20:33,253 Graves: He also said, "Hey, coincidentally, 427 00:20:33,283 --> 00:20:36,303 while I'm there, I'm going to see my buddy Jeff Trail." 428 00:20:37,233 --> 00:20:39,073 Fleissner: Jeff said, "When he comes up this weekend, 429 00:20:39,100 --> 00:20:40,400 I'm going to tell him that I don't want him 430 00:20:40,433 --> 00:20:42,173 to come visit me anymore, 431 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:44,370 I don't want him to be around anymore." 432 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:46,050 And I said, "You're actually going to do that?" 433 00:20:46,083 --> 00:20:47,483 And he said, "Yeah, I'm gonna do that." 434 00:20:48,016 --> 00:20:54,096 He told Madsen and Trail he was just coming for a weekend visit. 435 00:20:54,133 --> 00:20:57,253 Velez-Mitchell: A weekend visit? That's one way of putting it. 436 00:20:57,283 --> 00:20:59,373 What could go wrong? 437 00:21:01,083 --> 00:21:04,333 Graves: Things became very violent very quickly. 438 00:21:04,366 --> 00:21:06,176 He could have just stopped there and been like, 439 00:21:06,216 --> 00:21:08,276 "Holy shit, what did I just do?" 440 00:21:12,116 --> 00:21:14,076 Why should people care about fashion? 441 00:21:14,116 --> 00:21:15,346 Even if the people who say they don't care, 442 00:21:15,383 --> 00:21:16,423 they care, I promise you. 443 00:21:16,450 --> 00:21:20,380 Into fashion, you can find beauty, quality, life. 444 00:21:20,416 --> 00:21:25,426 I think some puts color to our life. 445 00:21:26,416 --> 00:21:28,466 Welcome back to "How It Really Happened." 446 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:30,230 By the early 1990s, 447 00:21:30,266 --> 00:21:35,196 Gianni Versace was almost as famous as his A-list clientele. 448 00:21:35,233 --> 00:21:38,433 When he wasn't working, Versace, oh, he was playing, 449 00:21:38,466 --> 00:21:41,166 often at his mansion in Miami's South Beach. 450 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:44,430 He felt safe walking among the crowds, a man of the people. 451 00:21:44,466 --> 00:21:48,116 Gianni Versace could not have know that a deeply troubled man 452 00:21:48,150 --> 00:21:51,180 had set out on a cross country killing spree. 453 00:21:51,216 --> 00:21:53,226 Their worlds were about to collide, 454 00:21:53,266 --> 00:21:55,396 but only one of them knew it. 455 00:21:59,333 --> 00:22:01,453 Graves: Andrew Cunanan had come to Minneapolis that Friday, 456 00:22:01,483 --> 00:22:03,253 had flown in on a one-way ticket. 457 00:22:03,283 --> 00:22:07,123 He mentioned in San Diego that he needed to go to 458 00:22:07,150 --> 00:22:10,070 Minneapolis to take care of business. 459 00:22:10,100 --> 00:22:14,100 We believe Andrew Cunanan made a call to Jeffrey Trail 460 00:22:14,133 --> 00:22:17,073 based on some voicemail times. 461 00:22:17,100 --> 00:22:20,130 No one knows what the call was, why they wanted to get together, 462 00:22:20,166 --> 00:22:22,226 why Andrew wanted to see Jeff. 463 00:22:22,266 --> 00:22:24,226 Jeff Trail tells his boyfriend, 464 00:22:24,266 --> 00:22:25,446 "I'll meet up with you guys later," 465 00:22:25,483 --> 00:22:28,283 and heads over to see Andrew Cunanan 466 00:22:28,316 --> 00:22:31,016 at David Madsen's apartment. 467 00:22:33,166 --> 00:22:39,116 Graves: By 9:45, Jeffrey Trail had buzzed into the apartment, 468 00:22:39,150 --> 00:22:42,430 and things became very violent very quickly. 469 00:22:42,466 --> 00:22:44,476 Velez-Mitchell: We don't know what exactly happened 470 00:22:45,016 --> 00:22:46,226 behind closed doors. 471 00:22:46,266 --> 00:22:48,126 We do know there was an argument, 472 00:22:48,166 --> 00:22:50,426 and neighbors heard shouting and something like, 473 00:22:50,466 --> 00:22:52,276 "Get the 'bleep' out." 474 00:22:55,066 --> 00:22:57,366 Jordan: My theory is Jeffrey Trail got in 475 00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:00,330 Andrew's face, as only a friend could do 476 00:23:00,366 --> 00:23:02,376 and called him out on all of his lies, 477 00:23:02,416 --> 00:23:04,266 all of his B.S. 478 00:23:04,300 --> 00:23:06,400 "I can't believe you came here, you're not welcome here. 479 00:23:06,433 --> 00:23:09,133 I moved here," I think he probably said, 480 00:23:09,166 --> 00:23:10,476 "To get away from you." 481 00:23:11,016 --> 00:23:16,076 ♪♪ 482 00:23:16,116 --> 00:23:18,276 He kills Jeff Trail with a claw hammer? 483 00:23:18,316 --> 00:23:21,146 Yeah, very brutally. 23 blows to the face. 484 00:23:21,183 --> 00:23:23,283 [ Camera shutter clicks ] 485 00:23:23,316 --> 00:23:26,346 There was blood on the walls outside the apartment, 486 00:23:26,383 --> 00:23:28,173 inside the apartment. 487 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:30,400 He rolled up his body in a rug. 488 00:23:30,433 --> 00:23:32,303 [ Camera shutter clicks ] 489 00:23:32,333 --> 00:23:36,023 Jeffrey Trail's watch is frozen in time. 490 00:23:36,050 --> 00:23:37,470 The face is busted at, 491 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:41,250 I believe it was 9:52 and 44 seconds. 492 00:23:41,283 --> 00:23:43,103 He could have just stopped there, and been like, 493 00:23:43,133 --> 00:23:45,023 "Holy shit, what did I just do?" 494 00:23:45,050 --> 00:23:47,380 You know, "I just killed my best friend, one of my best friends," 495 00:23:47,416 --> 00:23:48,476 and just stopped right there. 496 00:23:49,016 --> 00:23:50,326 He didn't. 497 00:23:55,033 --> 00:23:56,333 Hovland: I really don't think he was even 498 00:23:56,366 --> 00:23:58,276 in the apartment when it happened, 499 00:23:58,316 --> 00:24:03,376 and probably just walked into a pretty horrific crime scene. 500 00:24:03,416 --> 00:24:06,446 If Madsen walked in and there's Trail 501 00:24:06,483 --> 00:24:09,273 dead on the floor with Cunanan holding a hammer, 502 00:24:09,300 --> 00:24:11,300 Madsen is the loser in this game. 503 00:24:11,333 --> 00:24:14,283 There's no way to exit the situation 504 00:24:14,316 --> 00:24:16,026 and leave Madsen alive. 505 00:24:16,066 --> 00:24:18,126 And I think it took him a day or two to figure that out, 506 00:24:18,166 --> 00:24:20,396 and he decided that would be the plan. 507 00:24:20,433 --> 00:24:27,403 ♪♪ 508 00:24:27,433 --> 00:24:29,403 [ Gunshot ] 509 00:24:29,433 --> 00:24:32,403 Reporter: David Madsen, a 33-year-old architect, 510 00:24:32,433 --> 00:24:35,253 is found dead in a lake near Minneapolis. 511 00:24:35,283 --> 00:24:39,123 He was found towards I guess Friday night 512 00:24:39,150 --> 00:24:43,070 or Saturday morning, early by a fisherman, 513 00:24:43,100 --> 00:24:46,280 and he had been, you know, shot to death. 514 00:24:46,316 --> 00:24:48,176 Graves: Once between the shoulder blades, 515 00:24:48,216 --> 00:24:52,226 once a grazing wound on his face, and once in the eye. 516 00:24:52,266 --> 00:24:54,346 Hovland: How terrifying that would have been for him 517 00:24:54,383 --> 00:24:56,433 to be in that predicament, 518 00:24:56,466 --> 00:25:03,066 to die in that way with this crazy person. 519 00:25:03,450 --> 00:25:08,000 On checking personal property left behind 520 00:25:08,033 --> 00:25:14,283 at David Madsen's apartment, we found a bag, Cunanan's bag. 521 00:25:14,316 --> 00:25:19,096 In the bag, had an address book, had his driver's license. 522 00:25:19,133 --> 00:25:20,353 We're sure it's Andrew Cunanan, 523 00:25:20,383 --> 00:25:23,203 and we're sure he's fled the state. 524 00:25:27,100 --> 00:25:29,280 That was truly the point of no return, 525 00:25:29,316 --> 00:25:31,416 where he realized, "I'm on the lam. 526 00:25:31,450 --> 00:25:36,020 I'm going to take Madsen's jeep, and I'm going to start driving." 527 00:25:36,050 --> 00:25:39,080 And the real question is, "Where do I go now?" 528 00:25:42,300 --> 00:25:46,300 Andrew Cunanan ends up in a very fancy neighborhood 529 00:25:46,333 --> 00:25:49,423 of Chicago called Gold Coast, and it's in Gold Coast 530 00:25:49,450 --> 00:25:53,250 where he crosses paths with a wealthy, wealthy guy. 531 00:25:53,283 --> 00:25:55,373 Jordan: And of course his third victim, Lee Miglin, 532 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:57,370 is the biggest question mark of all. 533 00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,370 I believe he had been in that house before. 534 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:03,000 Of course the Miglin family denies ever having any 535 00:26:03,033 --> 00:26:05,053 associations with Andrew Cunanan, 536 00:26:05,083 --> 00:26:07,183 but from a criminology perspective, 537 00:26:07,216 --> 00:26:09,296 he was much too familiar with that house. 538 00:26:09,333 --> 00:26:13,303 [ Heart beating ] 539 00:26:13,333 --> 00:26:15,223 Then after killing Lee Miglin, 540 00:26:15,250 --> 00:26:19,100 he takes his green Lexus and heads east. 541 00:26:19,133 --> 00:26:22,403 Tracking cellphone calls from Miglin's stolen Lexus, 542 00:26:22,433 --> 00:26:24,353 police thought they had cornered Cunanan 543 00:26:24,383 --> 00:26:26,353 near Philadelphia last Friday, 544 00:26:26,383 --> 00:26:28,403 but he managed to elude them again. 545 00:26:28,433 --> 00:26:32,323 There is a media report, a radio report, as I recall, 546 00:26:32,350 --> 00:26:36,000 with a state police captain that basically says, 547 00:26:36,033 --> 00:26:39,003 "Hey, we're tracking serial killer Andrew Cunanan," 548 00:26:39,033 --> 00:26:40,403 and that goes on the air. 549 00:26:40,433 --> 00:26:42,403 Man: Be on the lookout for a 187 suspect. 550 00:26:42,433 --> 00:26:45,223 Suspect is an Andrew Phillip Cunanan. 551 00:26:45,250 --> 00:26:48,380 The suspect is believed to be extremely dangerous and armed. 552 00:26:48,416 --> 00:26:50,376 Graves: Andrew Cunanan happens to hear that, 553 00:26:50,416 --> 00:26:52,096 presumably gets mad, 554 00:26:52,133 --> 00:26:55,183 tries to rip out the phone, disables the phone. 555 00:26:55,216 --> 00:26:56,296 He's freaking out. 556 00:26:56,333 --> 00:26:58,223 He's trying to break the antenna in two. 557 00:26:58,250 --> 00:27:01,050 He's trying to ditch the car. He doesn't know what to do. 558 00:27:01,083 --> 00:27:05,333 And he pulls into this remote civil war cemetery, 559 00:27:05,366 --> 00:27:08,276 where William Reese is the caretaker. 560 00:27:09,466 --> 00:27:12,316 Graves: We just had to wait to see what came next. 561 00:27:12,350 --> 00:27:16,230 I heard two loud pops, "Pop, pop." 562 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,250 Jordan: In studying and talking to serial killers, 563 00:27:29,283 --> 00:27:31,233 they do become numb over time. 564 00:27:31,266 --> 00:27:34,476 By this time, he's killed three men in a number of days. 565 00:27:35,016 --> 00:27:37,176 It's like, "I'm all in, what does it matter 566 00:27:37,216 --> 00:27:39,226 if I kill one more person?" 567 00:27:43,266 --> 00:27:46,416 Andrew Cunanan pulls the green Lexus up at 568 00:27:46,450 --> 00:27:48,180 sort of the office area. 569 00:27:48,216 --> 00:27:51,326 The cemetery caretaker is there. 570 00:27:51,366 --> 00:27:53,026 His name is William Reese. 571 00:27:53,066 --> 00:27:56,276 He marched him down the stairs into the basement, 572 00:27:56,316 --> 00:28:00,376 stood him against a concrete wall and executed him. 573 00:28:00,416 --> 00:28:04,246 Andrew Cunanan marches back up, takes William Reese's 574 00:28:04,283 --> 00:28:07,003 red pickup truck, and is on the run again. 575 00:28:07,033 --> 00:28:10,453 This is just a planned deal to kill someone 576 00:28:10,483 --> 00:28:12,303 to steal his pickup truck. 577 00:28:12,333 --> 00:28:14,303 Just a heartless act. 578 00:28:14,333 --> 00:28:16,083 Chambliss: That seems to be the signature 579 00:28:16,116 --> 00:28:18,266 that this man leaves behind. 580 00:28:18,300 --> 00:28:21,170 He takes the car of the last victim 581 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:24,480 and leaves it at the site of the next alleged victim. 582 00:28:25,016 --> 00:28:27,126 Graves: He heads south, and then nobody hears from him. 583 00:28:27,166 --> 00:28:29,126 I mean, everything is cold. 584 00:28:29,166 --> 00:28:32,096 We just had to wait to see what came next. 585 00:28:32,133 --> 00:28:34,183 I believe he kept thinking, planning, like, 586 00:28:34,216 --> 00:28:37,026 a theatrical production, "How is this gonna go down? 587 00:28:37,066 --> 00:28:39,176 Am I gonna go out in a blaze of glory?" 588 00:28:39,216 --> 00:28:42,426 Urness: We're looking at a week, two weeks after his 589 00:28:42,466 --> 00:28:46,446 last known place was Pennsville, New Jersey. 590 00:28:46,483 --> 00:28:48,383 What happened? Where is he? 591 00:28:48,416 --> 00:28:51,216 Where is he going? 592 00:28:51,250 --> 00:28:54,150 Andrew Cunanan went to South Carolina, 593 00:28:54,183 --> 00:28:55,303 went into a parking lot, 594 00:28:55,333 --> 00:28:58,323 took the plates off of the pickup truck, 595 00:28:58,350 --> 00:29:01,470 obviously to avoid detection by law enforcement, 596 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:05,200 slaps on a South Carolina plate, and then heads south. 597 00:29:05,233 --> 00:29:08,053 ♪♪ 598 00:29:08,083 --> 00:29:12,453 [ Heart beating ] 599 00:29:15,083 --> 00:29:18,053 Andrew Cunanan registers under an alias 600 00:29:18,083 --> 00:29:20,173 at the Normandy Plaza. 601 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:24,100 It's the type of hotel that you would go to if you didn't have 602 00:29:24,133 --> 00:29:27,183 a lot of money but you wanted to be close to the beach. 603 00:29:27,216 --> 00:29:29,046 This was no Fontainebleau. 604 00:29:32,033 --> 00:29:35,473 June 12th, a month to the day that Andrew arrives in Miami, 605 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,220 he's made the FBI's Most Wanted list. 606 00:29:38,250 --> 00:29:41,180 The FBI as well as all of the local authority 607 00:29:41,216 --> 00:29:43,126 believe that he is one of the most wanted people 608 00:29:43,166 --> 00:29:44,366 in this country today. 609 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:47,080 He was also on "America's Most Wanted" 610 00:29:47,116 --> 00:29:51,166 the TV show, twice, and I remember one of his roommates 611 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:54,120 really giving some insight into his personality. 612 00:29:54,150 --> 00:29:56,070 Man: Ferris Bueller in real life. 613 00:29:56,100 --> 00:30:00,350 He can get away with anything, everyone loves him. 614 00:30:00,383 --> 00:30:02,083 He's bigger than life. 615 00:30:02,116 --> 00:30:04,426 And that's how he attracts everybody to him. 616 00:30:09,183 --> 00:30:14,253 The hottest call we had was from a Miami Beach sub shop. 617 00:30:14,283 --> 00:30:18,003 A kid that worked there, he called 911, 618 00:30:18,033 --> 00:30:21,353 and said, "Have a guy here that's ordering food, 619 00:30:21,383 --> 00:30:24,473 and I know I saw him on 'America's Most Wanted.'" 620 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:28,030 The 911 operator tried to get as much information as possible. 621 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:42,170 They missed Cunanan by five minutes. 622 00:30:44,183 --> 00:30:46,233 Your sister helps you run the company, Donatella. 623 00:30:46,266 --> 00:30:48,166 She does. She does a lot. 624 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:51,350 She's kind of first criticism to me. 625 00:30:51,383 --> 00:30:53,123 We have a great relationship. 626 00:30:53,150 --> 00:30:57,150 She's my friend. She's my first customers. 627 00:30:57,183 --> 00:31:02,333 ♪♪ 628 00:31:02,366 --> 00:31:04,996 Ball: So in the very early morning of July 15th, 629 00:31:05,033 --> 00:31:08,103 he awoke at about 3:00 a.m., which is 9:00 a.m. in Milan, 630 00:31:08,133 --> 00:31:10,433 and he was thinking right away of the fashion show 631 00:31:10,466 --> 00:31:12,426 that Donatella was organizing in Rome. 632 00:31:12,466 --> 00:31:14,426 So he started calling his sister, 633 00:31:14,466 --> 00:31:16,076 and was starting to give her orders 634 00:31:16,116 --> 00:31:17,326 and pepper her with questions 635 00:31:17,366 --> 00:31:20,396 and really interrogate her about how that show was going. 636 00:31:20,433 --> 00:31:22,053 Then he went back to sleep. 637 00:31:22,083 --> 00:31:24,133 Gianni Versace was known for paying attention 638 00:31:24,166 --> 00:31:27,066 to every detail in every show. 639 00:31:29,083 --> 00:31:31,153 Ball: He woke again at about 8:00, 640 00:31:31,183 --> 00:31:33,053 called Donatella a couple more times, 641 00:31:33,083 --> 00:31:34,223 and finally she just wouldn't take his call. 642 00:31:34,250 --> 00:31:36,230 She just put the phone down. So he got up. 643 00:31:36,266 --> 00:31:39,016 He decided to go, as he did most mornings, 644 00:31:39,050 --> 00:31:41,320 and take a walk down to the News Cafe. 645 00:31:41,350 --> 00:31:44,200 Velez-Mitchell: Everybody knows the News Cafe in South Beach. 646 00:31:44,233 --> 00:31:46,183 It's like the place to go. 647 00:31:46,216 --> 00:31:48,096 And Gianni Versace would go there in the morning 648 00:31:48,133 --> 00:31:51,183 and get coffee and get magazines and stroll back. 649 00:31:51,216 --> 00:31:53,396 It was very public. 650 00:31:53,433 --> 00:31:56,223 Ball: Antonio D'Amico, Gianni's boyfriend, came down 651 00:31:56,250 --> 00:31:58,020 after Gianni had already left the house. 652 00:31:58,050 --> 00:32:01,070 He came down, he had an early tennis date with Lazaro, 653 00:32:01,100 --> 00:32:03,150 a friend of theirs who lived in Miami. 654 00:32:03,183 --> 00:32:05,233 Antonio needed someone to play tennis every time 655 00:32:05,266 --> 00:32:06,276 they came in to town. 656 00:32:06,316 --> 00:32:10,396 So I went inside, and I stood by Antonio, 657 00:32:10,433 --> 00:32:13,153 and he's sitting at the end of the table. 658 00:32:17,483 --> 00:32:21,073 After grabbing his newspaper and magazines, Gianni Versace 659 00:32:21,100 --> 00:32:24,070 made it back down here to his mansion four blocks away. 660 00:32:24,100 --> 00:32:27,420 Velez-Mitchell: Here's this famous man, who's loved 661 00:32:27,450 --> 00:32:31,350 by everybody, just going about his life, planning shows, 662 00:32:31,383 --> 00:32:34,103 waking up in the morning in South Beach, 663 00:32:34,133 --> 00:32:36,023 going to get coffee and magazines, 664 00:32:36,050 --> 00:32:38,420 just living his life, enjoying his life. 665 00:32:38,450 --> 00:32:41,470 Mr. Versace was walking back from the News Cafe, 666 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,330 and as he's walking up the steps to his house... 667 00:32:44,366 --> 00:32:47,276 Orth: He passed a woman who's just taken her child to school, 668 00:32:47,316 --> 00:32:49,126 and they kind of smile at each other. 669 00:32:49,166 --> 00:32:52,326 He's up leaning over to unlock the big iron gate, 670 00:32:52,366 --> 00:32:55,166 and she turns around to look one more time 671 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:56,470 just to sort of glance at Versace, 672 00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,330 and she sees this young man walking very quickly, 673 00:32:59,366 --> 00:33:02,176 diagonally across the street, and all of a sudden, 674 00:33:02,216 --> 00:33:05,076 he just sticks the gun out. 675 00:33:05,116 --> 00:33:07,396 Bang, bang. 676 00:33:07,433 --> 00:33:10,003 Antonio goes over to the window 677 00:33:10,033 --> 00:33:12,073 that faces the entrance to the mansion. 678 00:33:12,100 --> 00:33:14,150 And he yells, "No, no!" 679 00:33:14,183 --> 00:33:15,453 [ Heart beating ] 680 00:33:15,483 --> 00:33:18,123 Escobar: Most of the news organizations were in their 681 00:33:18,150 --> 00:33:19,470 editorial meetings because it happened in the morning, 682 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:21,470 and someone from the assignment desk 683 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:25,070 comes into our meeting, opens the glass doors and says, 684 00:33:25,100 --> 00:33:26,470 "There's a shooting in South beach." 685 00:33:46,166 --> 00:33:50,066 Wow. This is going to be one of the biggest stories 686 00:33:50,100 --> 00:33:52,120 to hit Miami in a long, long time. 687 00:33:56,133 --> 00:33:58,423 I was out on the beach, um, relaxing, 688 00:33:58,450 --> 00:34:01,470 and I heard two loud pops. 689 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:03,100 Pop, pop. 690 00:34:03,133 --> 00:34:04,183 He was laying right on the steps. 691 00:34:04,216 --> 00:34:05,446 It looked like an execution style. 692 00:34:05,483 --> 00:34:07,473 One shot to the head. 693 00:34:12,300 --> 00:34:14,150 Miami Beach Police are looking for the man 694 00:34:14,183 --> 00:34:15,303 who walked up to fashion designer, 695 00:34:15,333 --> 00:34:17,023 Gianni Versace this morning 696 00:34:17,050 --> 00:34:19,080 and shot him twice in the back of the head. 697 00:34:19,116 --> 00:34:20,366 Gianni was just laying there. 698 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:23,430 So I grabbed him, and I felt to see if he was breathing, 699 00:34:23,466 --> 00:34:25,426 but there was nothing. 700 00:34:27,133 --> 00:34:29,403 It was not a survivable injury, 701 00:34:29,433 --> 00:34:32,483 and indeed, he had no evidence of neurologic function. 702 00:34:33,016 --> 00:34:34,376 He was brain dead. 703 00:34:36,083 --> 00:34:37,283 Velez-Mitchell: It was such a shock. 704 00:34:37,316 --> 00:34:42,316 The idea of a celebrity being gunned down in broad daylight, 705 00:34:42,350 --> 00:34:47,230 executed on their front steps was just unthinkable. 706 00:34:47,266 --> 00:34:49,226 Witnesses say, "The man who fatally shot 707 00:34:49,266 --> 00:34:51,246 Gianni Versace ran down an alley 708 00:34:51,283 --> 00:34:55,133 and disappeared into a nearby parking garage." 709 00:34:55,166 --> 00:34:56,176 Navarro: He ran into the garage. 710 00:34:56,216 --> 00:34:59,226 He ran up to where the red pickup truck was 711 00:34:59,266 --> 00:35:01,276 with all his belongings in it. 712 00:35:01,316 --> 00:35:03,026 He changed clothes. 713 00:35:03,066 --> 00:35:06,026 He threw all his hot, sweaty clothes on a pile on the floor. 714 00:35:06,066 --> 00:35:09,026 Here's a guy that kept that red pickup truck 715 00:35:09,066 --> 00:35:10,126 for a couple of months. 716 00:35:10,166 --> 00:35:12,296 Here's a guy that left his passport 717 00:35:12,333 --> 00:35:16,073 and a check with his name in that pickup truck. 718 00:35:18,300 --> 00:35:20,280 So now we know it's Andrew Cunanan. 719 00:35:20,316 --> 00:35:23,216 Miami Beach Police investigators in cooperation with agents 720 00:35:23,250 --> 00:35:26,030 of the Federal Bureau of Investigation 721 00:35:26,066 --> 00:35:28,116 and the Florida Department of Law Enforcement 722 00:35:28,150 --> 00:35:32,080 are currently looking for Andrew Phillip Cunanan 723 00:35:32,116 --> 00:35:35,226 as a suspect in the murder of Gianni Versace. 724 00:35:35,266 --> 00:35:37,046 Williams: Where is Andrew Cunanan? 725 00:35:37,083 --> 00:35:41,383 That was the question that hung heavy over all of Miami Beach, 726 00:35:41,416 --> 00:35:43,026 a place that was on edge. 727 00:35:43,066 --> 00:35:45,326 I had never seen a manhunt like that in my career. 728 00:35:45,366 --> 00:35:48,066 We hope that he's still within the state of Florida. 729 00:35:48,100 --> 00:35:50,200 We hope. But that's not a fact right now. 730 00:35:50,233 --> 00:35:52,373 There was a whole segment of the newsroom who believed 731 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:55,470 he left Miami a long time ago, and he's probably 732 00:35:56,000 --> 00:36:00,120 in Mexico somewhere or Cuba, or you know, who knows. 733 00:36:00,150 --> 00:36:03,050 ♪♪ 734 00:36:03,083 --> 00:36:06,473 The family had Gianni's body cremated immediately after 735 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:10,320 his murder in Miami, but they wanted to return to Milan 736 00:36:10,350 --> 00:36:14,200 to have a really extraordinary funeral for him. 737 00:36:14,233 --> 00:36:16,403 Donatella Versace had told her assistant, 738 00:36:16,433 --> 00:36:18,383 "They shot Gianni like a stray dog. 739 00:36:18,416 --> 00:36:22,116 I want to have a funeral fit for a prince for him." 740 00:36:22,150 --> 00:36:24,420 ♪♪ 741 00:36:24,450 --> 00:36:28,450 ♪ Oh, the Lord's my shepherd ♪ 742 00:36:28,483 --> 00:36:35,373 ♪♪ 743 00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:38,030 Gianni's funeral was an A-list affair. 744 00:36:38,066 --> 00:36:40,026 There was Princess Diana, who was comforting 745 00:36:40,066 --> 00:36:44,066 Elton John, who was distraught at the death of his friend. 746 00:36:44,100 --> 00:36:46,180 There was Anna Wintour, Karl Lagerfeld, 747 00:36:46,216 --> 00:36:48,446 Sting and his wife, Naomi Campbell. 748 00:36:48,483 --> 00:36:52,273 Everyone was there, and they were all in shock. 749 00:36:52,300 --> 00:36:56,480 And of course, Andrew Cunanan is still in hiding somewhere, 750 00:36:57,016 --> 00:37:00,046 probably watching all the coverage of it on TV, 751 00:37:00,083 --> 00:37:02,253 knowing that he made all of it happen 752 00:37:02,283 --> 00:37:05,003 and loving the power of that. 753 00:37:05,033 --> 00:37:11,223 ♪♪ 754 00:37:11,250 --> 00:37:12,450 Reporter: The latest on the manhunt for 755 00:37:12,483 --> 00:37:14,153 the alleged killer of Gianni Versace 756 00:37:14,183 --> 00:37:16,173 and four other men. 757 00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:18,330 Possibility a man involved in gunfire 758 00:37:18,366 --> 00:37:20,176 at a Miami Beach houseboat 759 00:37:20,216 --> 00:37:22,416 might be that most wanted suspect, Andrew Cunanan. 760 00:37:22,450 --> 00:37:26,130 King: Authorities closed in on a houseboat on Miami Beach. 761 00:37:26,166 --> 00:37:31,016 We get a call into the newsroom that there is police activity 762 00:37:31,050 --> 00:37:34,100 on Collins Avenue in Miami Beach. 763 00:37:34,133 --> 00:37:37,053 That's a very quiet area. 764 00:37:37,083 --> 00:37:39,223 Very little crime in that area. 765 00:37:39,250 --> 00:37:40,470 There's a caretaker that comes to check 766 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:42,270 on the houseboat for the owner. 767 00:37:42,300 --> 00:37:44,150 Escobar: The caretaker sees 768 00:37:44,183 --> 00:37:47,383 that the lock to the houseboat has been broken, 769 00:37:47,416 --> 00:37:50,076 and he steps in to see what's going on, 770 00:37:50,116 --> 00:37:52,126 and that's when he hears a gunshot 771 00:37:52,166 --> 00:37:54,346 and gets his son to call 911. 772 00:38:03,150 --> 00:38:06,050 Reports began coming out, and we could see that police 773 00:38:06,083 --> 00:38:09,203 were converging on a houseboat on Miami Beach. 774 00:38:09,233 --> 00:38:11,383 Reporter: The houseboat is located only two and a half 775 00:38:11,416 --> 00:38:14,266 miles from the spot where Versace was gunned down 776 00:38:14,300 --> 00:38:17,320 last week in front of his oceanfront villa. 777 00:38:19,316 --> 00:38:21,116 Jordan: I think everyone remembers watching it 778 00:38:21,150 --> 00:38:23,070 live on 24-hour news. 779 00:38:23,100 --> 00:38:24,480 The helicopters over the houseboat, 780 00:38:25,016 --> 00:38:28,376 and John Walsh pulling up in his limousine and waving. 781 00:38:28,416 --> 00:38:31,996 It was theater, and sick as it is, 782 00:38:32,033 --> 00:38:34,353 it's exactly what Andrew Cunanan wanted. 783 00:38:34,383 --> 00:38:37,083 King: Mary Anne, did you watch the scene at the boat? 784 00:38:37,116 --> 00:38:38,426 Mary Ann: I was in the Miramar Lodge, 785 00:38:38,466 --> 00:38:41,026 kept there by the FBI, 786 00:38:41,066 --> 00:38:44,116 and I was not supposed to leave my room. 787 00:38:44,150 --> 00:38:48,120 And I was watching the TV, and I was waiting. 788 00:38:49,383 --> 00:38:51,153 Escobar: There was a S.W.A.T. team, 789 00:38:51,183 --> 00:38:52,473 major, major police presence. 790 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:54,420 Navarro: Right before the S.W.A.T. team went in, 791 00:38:54,450 --> 00:38:58,430 they threw I believe five rounds of tear gas. 792 00:38:58,466 --> 00:39:02,016 And then they made entry. 793 00:39:02,050 --> 00:39:04,480 Penelas: After the police stormed the home, 794 00:39:05,016 --> 00:39:08,326 the first attempt was to bring the suspect out. 795 00:39:08,366 --> 00:39:11,416 King: Elana, did you try to reach Andrew? 796 00:39:11,450 --> 00:39:16,050 We did have a spokesperson for us. 797 00:39:16,083 --> 00:39:19,053 We prepared a plea. 798 00:39:19,083 --> 00:39:22,053 But apparently he didn't hear it. 799 00:39:24,083 --> 00:39:25,353 Reporter: They have been telling us all night, 800 00:39:25,383 --> 00:39:28,223 they're going to tell us something in 10 minutes. 801 00:39:28,250 --> 00:39:29,430 That was two hours ago. 802 00:39:29,466 --> 00:39:32,116 Then they said they're having a press conference at 10:00. 803 00:39:32,150 --> 00:39:34,430 We were here waiting for that. It did not happen. 804 00:39:34,466 --> 00:39:37,996 They made entry, and they found a body 805 00:39:38,033 --> 00:39:40,053 deceased in the upstairs bedroom. 806 00:39:40,083 --> 00:39:43,423 They find Andrew Cunanan dead from a single gunshot wound. 807 00:39:43,450 --> 00:39:45,030 Navarro: Big sigh of relief. 808 00:39:45,066 --> 00:39:49,046 We fingerprinted the corpse and identified him 809 00:39:49,083 --> 00:39:51,033 as Andrew Cunanan for sure. 810 00:39:51,066 --> 00:39:52,166 We think he was out of money. 811 00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:53,400 He didn't have a stolen vehicle. 812 00:39:53,433 --> 00:39:55,323 He may have been out of ammunition. 813 00:39:55,350 --> 00:39:58,000 Obviously it has turned out to be his last stand. 814 00:39:58,033 --> 00:40:00,253 Velez-Mitchell: When somebody actually came to check on 815 00:40:00,283 --> 00:40:02,433 the houseboat and just made a little noise, 816 00:40:02,466 --> 00:40:06,176 he knew it was over, and that person heard a gunshot, 817 00:40:06,216 --> 00:40:11,316 and that was Cunanan blowing his brains out, end of story. 818 00:40:11,350 --> 00:40:13,450 At 6:30 a.m. this morning, 819 00:40:13,483 --> 00:40:17,403 the body of Andrew Cunanan was removed from the scene 820 00:40:17,433 --> 00:40:19,083 and delivered to the office 821 00:40:19,116 --> 00:40:21,146 of the Dade County Medical Examiner. 822 00:40:21,183 --> 00:40:24,383 The medical examiner has confirmed that he has died 823 00:40:24,416 --> 00:40:27,466 of a self-inflicted gunshot wound to the head. 824 00:40:30,300 --> 00:40:33,350 We'll never know what motivated Andrew Cunanan to kill, 825 00:40:33,383 --> 00:40:36,053 but certainly we know now that he'll never kill again. 826 00:40:36,083 --> 00:40:40,333 I'm frustrated that we couldn't have a sit-down 827 00:40:40,366 --> 00:40:41,476 after he was caught. 828 00:40:42,016 --> 00:40:45,446 Like reading a book and stopping in the middle 829 00:40:45,483 --> 00:40:48,373 and not knowing how it ended. 830 00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:51,020 This is the picture we had on our dart board 831 00:40:51,050 --> 00:40:52,300 in the fugitive task force office 832 00:40:52,333 --> 00:40:55,303 for 79 days of Andrew Cunanan. 833 00:40:55,333 --> 00:40:58,433 It's got just a few holes in it. 834 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:02,370 Fleissner: The whole thing is just a tragedy. 835 00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:05,030 He decided to make himself a name and be this, 836 00:41:05,066 --> 00:41:08,376 you know, splashy killer of all these people, 837 00:41:08,416 --> 00:41:11,466 and once again, had no interest in the people 838 00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:13,180 that he was killing or the people 839 00:41:13,216 --> 00:41:16,176 that were left behind that loved these people that were killed. 840 00:41:16,216 --> 00:41:17,476 That's Andrew's whole story, 841 00:41:18,016 --> 00:41:20,296 is that he just basically was all about Andrew. 842 00:41:20,333 --> 00:41:22,473 It was the Andrew story. 843 00:41:37,333 --> 00:41:40,123 More than 20 years after Gianni Versace 844 00:41:40,150 --> 00:41:43,000 was gunned down on the steps of his Miami mansion, 845 00:41:43,033 --> 00:41:46,023 the beloved designer's legacy lives on. 846 00:41:46,050 --> 00:41:48,170 The business he built into a global fashion empire 847 00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:51,300 continues to thrive with his family still at the helm. 848 00:41:51,333 --> 00:41:53,373 As for Andrew Cunanan, we reached out to his family 849 00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:55,480 for an interview, and they declined. 850 00:41:56,016 --> 00:41:58,316 But one of his sisters told us that her children 851 00:41:58,350 --> 00:42:02,000 don't know anything about their infamous uncle. 852 00:42:02,033 --> 00:42:05,183 I'm Hill Harper. Thanks for joining us. 853 00:42:05,216 --> 00:42:07,346 Good night. 69000

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