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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,466 --> 00:00:06,026 ♪♪ 2 00:00:29,450 --> 00:00:37,070 ♪♪ 3 00:00:37,100 --> 00:00:44,200 ♪♪ 4 00:00:44,233 --> 00:00:45,353 Welcome to "How It Really Happened." 5 00:00:45,383 --> 00:00:47,133 I'm Hill Harper. 6 00:00:47,166 --> 00:00:49,096 For six months in 2008, 7 00:00:49,133 --> 00:00:51,283 the entire country wanted to know -- 8 00:00:51,316 --> 00:00:53,176 where was Caylee Anthony? 9 00:00:53,216 --> 00:00:55,096 Her grandparents, George and Cindy, 10 00:00:55,133 --> 00:00:56,203 were giving dozens of interviews, 11 00:00:56,233 --> 00:00:58,223 begging for information on the missing girl. 12 00:00:58,250 --> 00:01:00,330 Caylee's mother, Casey, was the prime suspect 13 00:01:00,366 --> 00:01:02,076 in her disappearance. 14 00:01:02,116 --> 00:01:04,446 Casey was charged with first-degree murder. 15 00:01:04,483 --> 00:01:07,153 But after Caylee's body was found in December, 16 00:01:07,183 --> 00:01:08,383 everything changed. 17 00:01:08,416 --> 00:01:11,176 Now prosecutors wanted the death penalty. 18 00:01:11,216 --> 00:01:14,166 Casey Anthony would be facing execution. 19 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:16,230 But did the state have enough evidence to prove 20 00:01:16,266 --> 00:01:17,426 she deserved it? 21 00:01:17,466 --> 00:01:20,276 Some believe that choice by prosecutors 22 00:01:20,316 --> 00:01:22,376 was the first misstep in a bizarre trial, 23 00:01:22,416 --> 00:01:25,166 fitting for this bizarre case. 24 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:28,050 Here's how it really happened. 25 00:01:31,333 --> 00:01:33,023 Casey: I still have that feeling, 26 00:01:33,050 --> 00:01:35,420 that presence, I know that she's alive. 27 00:01:35,450 --> 00:01:40,030 Whether you have a bucket load of evidence downstairs 28 00:01:40,066 --> 00:01:42,066 that contradicts that and says otherwise 29 00:01:42,100 --> 00:01:46,000 or if all you have is speculation, 30 00:01:46,033 --> 00:01:49,333 or -- or nothing at all, I mean, whatever it is, 31 00:01:49,366 --> 00:01:51,066 if there's still that chance. 32 00:01:51,100 --> 00:01:54,320 We have more than speculation. We have a lot. 33 00:01:54,350 --> 00:01:55,380 Cindy: There's something wrong. 34 00:01:55,416 --> 00:01:57,396 I found my daughter's car today... 35 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:02,230 Fanning: Casey Anthony claimed 36 00:02:02,266 --> 00:02:06,446 that her little 2 1/2-year-old daughter, Caylee Anthony, 37 00:02:06,483 --> 00:02:11,073 had been abducted by the nanny Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez. 38 00:02:14,433 --> 00:02:17,283 During that entire period, Cindy actually never sees Caylee. 39 00:02:17,316 --> 00:02:18,376 Cindy: There was no Caylee. 40 00:02:18,416 --> 00:02:21,076 So I started to feel like, "What's going on?" 41 00:02:21,116 --> 00:02:23,246 Fanning: Casey Anthony had been lying 42 00:02:23,283 --> 00:02:26,283 to her parents for 31 days. 43 00:02:29,166 --> 00:02:33,146 She was sending them on this wild chase of lies. 44 00:02:33,183 --> 00:02:34,283 I have known or I've had a feeling 45 00:02:34,316 --> 00:02:36,076 for the last 2 years my daughter has not worked. 46 00:02:44,250 --> 00:02:46,130 During the time that Caylee was missing, 47 00:02:46,166 --> 00:02:49,346 Casey Anthony was pretty much living life as normal. 48 00:02:49,383 --> 00:02:53,323 We had pictures of her dancing on top of bars with other women. 49 00:02:53,350 --> 00:02:57,180 That became almost the poster for who is Casey Anthony. 50 00:02:57,216 --> 00:02:59,466 Casey was telling different people different things 51 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:01,320 about where the child was. 52 00:03:01,350 --> 00:03:03,130 Casey: Mom, I don't have anything. 53 00:03:03,166 --> 00:03:05,026 I'm sorry, I've been here a month. 54 00:03:05,066 --> 00:03:07,216 I've been here a month today. 55 00:03:07,250 --> 00:03:10,080 Do you understand how I feel? 56 00:03:10,116 --> 00:03:12,346 Lee: We want to focus on what we do know. 57 00:03:12,383 --> 00:03:14,353 And we know that there is a little girl out there 58 00:03:14,383 --> 00:03:16,073 right now that is missing. 59 00:03:16,100 --> 00:03:19,100 Get off your [bleep] and look for my granddaughter. 60 00:03:19,133 --> 00:03:21,003 I have never seen anything like this. 61 00:03:30,083 --> 00:03:32,223 A Florida grand jury has indicted the mother 62 00:03:32,250 --> 00:03:34,250 of missing toddler Caylee Anthony 63 00:03:34,283 --> 00:03:37,303 on a first-degree murder charge. 64 00:03:37,333 --> 00:03:38,423 Yes, we've, uh... 65 00:03:42,250 --> 00:03:45,430 The skeletal remains found on December 11th 66 00:03:45,466 --> 00:03:49,066 are those of the missing toddler Caylee Anthony. 67 00:03:49,100 --> 00:03:52,100 The remains were found in a very low, kind of wooded area. 68 00:03:52,133 --> 00:03:55,453 About 15 houses away from the Anthony home. 69 00:03:55,483 --> 00:03:58,233 It is so close, it's shocking. 70 00:03:58,266 --> 00:04:01,046 Garavaglia: The skull was on a hair mat, 71 00:04:01,083 --> 00:04:04,353 and had clearly duct tape still attached to it. 72 00:04:04,383 --> 00:04:07,133 The duct tape appeared to be in the front of the skull. 73 00:04:07,166 --> 00:04:10,346 There were four things found along with the skull, 74 00:04:10,383 --> 00:04:17,273 and these items had a link to the Anthony home. 75 00:04:17,300 --> 00:04:19,220 I always wanted to know what's happened to my granddaughter, 76 00:04:19,250 --> 00:04:20,280 and I still stick with that. 77 00:04:20,316 --> 00:04:22,216 I-I want to know what happened. 78 00:04:22,250 --> 00:04:24,070 I miss you, sweetie. 79 00:04:27,083 --> 00:04:29,023 I know that. I miss you too. 80 00:04:29,050 --> 00:04:31,000 I wish I could have been a better dad and better grandpa, 81 00:04:31,033 --> 00:04:33,203 you know? 82 00:04:33,233 --> 00:04:34,273 You've been a great dad, 83 00:04:34,300 --> 00:04:36,250 and you've been the best grandfather. 84 00:04:36,283 --> 00:04:39,283 Don't for a second think otherwise. 85 00:04:39,316 --> 00:04:43,096 Kobilinsky: You had a very young, very pretty woman 86 00:04:43,133 --> 00:04:46,073 who was being accused of capital murder. 87 00:04:46,100 --> 00:04:47,220 Baldwin: She is the Florida mother 88 00:04:47,250 --> 00:04:48,450 who is charged with murdering 89 00:04:48,483 --> 00:04:50,173 her 2-year-old daughter Caylee. 90 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:54,350 It became their daily soap opera. 91 00:04:54,383 --> 00:05:00,253 And everybody was betting on Casey's conviction. 92 00:05:00,283 --> 00:05:03,433 The tot mom pleads "not guilty" to murder one. 93 00:05:03,466 --> 00:05:05,346 Jordan: If O.J. was the trial of the last century, 94 00:05:05,383 --> 00:05:08,233 then Casey Anthony was the trial of the new century. 95 00:05:08,266 --> 00:05:10,096 My client wants her day in court. 96 00:05:10,133 --> 00:05:12,373 Savage: We had reason to believe any seated jury 97 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:14,470 would come to the logical conclusion 98 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:16,170 that only one person was responsible 99 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:18,250 for the murder of Caylee Marie Anthony, 100 00:05:18,283 --> 00:05:20,103 and that was Casey Anthony. 101 00:05:22,250 --> 00:05:24,480 Velez-Mitchell: Tonight, an earth-shattering first day 102 00:05:25,016 --> 00:05:27,426 of jury selection in the Casey Anthony trial. 103 00:05:27,466 --> 00:05:30,466 Who will be ringside at the trial of the century? 104 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:34,470 The prosecution's team was a very elite team. 105 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:36,080 All three of them 106 00:05:36,116 --> 00:05:39,266 were highly experienced homicide prosecutors. 107 00:05:39,300 --> 00:05:43,120 Karas: Linda Drane-Burdick, Jeff Ashton, and Frank George. 108 00:05:43,150 --> 00:05:46,200 The defense consisted of Jose Baez, 109 00:05:46,233 --> 00:05:49,133 who was yet unproven, and Cheney Mason, 110 00:05:49,166 --> 00:05:51,396 a veteran defense attorney. 111 00:05:51,433 --> 00:05:54,153 When Casey was thrown in jail, it occurred to her 112 00:05:54,183 --> 00:05:55,353 she needed a lawyer. 113 00:05:55,383 --> 00:05:58,033 I heard a couple of people talking about attorneys, 114 00:05:58,066 --> 00:05:59,126 and his name came up 115 00:05:59,166 --> 00:06:00,316 and I was like, "Well, if he's good, 116 00:06:00,350 --> 00:06:02,350 can you do me a favor and pass my name along?" 117 00:06:02,383 --> 00:06:04,373 She hears from a fellow inmate about this lawyer, 118 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:07,400 Jose Baez, and voilà, that's her lawyer. 119 00:06:07,433 --> 00:06:11,083 And this is someone who was not super experienced 120 00:06:11,116 --> 00:06:14,166 in homicide cases, criminal cases. 121 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:16,170 He had actually had an online business 122 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:17,400 selling bikinis at one point. 123 00:06:17,433 --> 00:06:21,483 Golenbock: Jose Baez was treated as an incompetent. 124 00:06:22,016 --> 00:06:24,076 They all sort of laughed at the notion 125 00:06:24,116 --> 00:06:26,366 that Casey was going to get good representation. 126 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:29,170 I will make a statement at a later time, gentlemen. 127 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:32,050 Velez-Mitchell: People underestimated Jose Baez big time. 128 00:06:32,083 --> 00:06:36,133 There's a danger to underestimating your opponent. 129 00:06:36,166 --> 00:06:37,996 She's not just my little girl, 130 00:06:38,033 --> 00:06:39,453 she's my baby, she'll always be my baby, 131 00:06:39,483 --> 00:06:44,083 but she will always be your baby and dad's baby 132 00:06:44,116 --> 00:06:47,076 and Lee's baby. She's our little girl. 133 00:06:47,116 --> 00:06:49,376 Mason: When I first met Casey, 134 00:06:49,416 --> 00:06:51,296 it was in the Orange County jail. 135 00:06:51,333 --> 00:06:56,253 And she was very polite, she was not acting entitled, 136 00:06:56,283 --> 00:06:58,073 and I came away from that interview 137 00:06:58,100 --> 00:07:00,100 with a very strong belief 138 00:07:00,133 --> 00:07:01,233 that this girl didn't kill her baby. 139 00:07:01,266 --> 00:07:03,996 And so there it is, "Oh, boy." 140 00:07:04,033 --> 00:07:06,273 We're gonna do everything possible to save her life. 141 00:07:06,300 --> 00:07:15,050 ♪♪ 142 00:07:15,083 --> 00:07:18,153 Banfield: Typically a courtroom has a defense table, 143 00:07:18,183 --> 00:07:20,323 and then on the other side, a prosecutor's table, 144 00:07:20,350 --> 00:07:22,480 and they both face forward, they face the judge. 145 00:07:23,016 --> 00:07:25,066 Prior to starting the trial, 146 00:07:25,100 --> 00:07:27,080 I had met with the court administrator and the judge 147 00:07:27,116 --> 00:07:31,246 and said I want the jury to be able to see Casey, 148 00:07:31,283 --> 00:07:33,233 and I want her to be able to see them, 149 00:07:33,266 --> 00:07:37,166 rather than being at an angle, sideways and peering around. 150 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:38,200 Karas: They moved their table, 151 00:07:38,233 --> 00:07:41,023 which was really actually brilliant 152 00:07:41,050 --> 00:07:43,430 because jurors were facing Casey the whole time. 153 00:07:43,466 --> 00:07:46,026 Perry: Casey Anthony, while the jury 154 00:07:46,066 --> 00:07:48,466 was in the courtroom, portrayed herself 155 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:52,320 as very innocent, somewhat naive. 156 00:07:52,350 --> 00:07:55,000 I think they seated her in a lower chair 157 00:07:55,033 --> 00:07:56,183 because she looked really diminutive. 158 00:07:56,216 --> 00:07:58,476 And she was dressed in clothes she never would wear. 159 00:07:59,016 --> 00:08:00,446 She was wearing really dowdy blouses 160 00:08:00,483 --> 00:08:02,323 and her hair was pulled back. 161 00:08:02,350 --> 00:08:03,400 Jordan: But the one thing we never saw 162 00:08:03,433 --> 00:08:05,373 is that she was nervous or scared. 163 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:07,320 I don't think I ever saw her 164 00:08:07,350 --> 00:08:10,470 look like she was in fear for a conviction. 165 00:08:13,483 --> 00:08:16,053 The trial of Casey Anthony started today. 166 00:08:16,083 --> 00:08:17,223 Good afternoon, ladies and gentleman 167 00:08:17,250 --> 00:08:20,420 The defense dropped a bombshell in opening. 168 00:08:26,133 --> 00:08:27,373 George: Casey deserves prayer. 169 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:30,170 She deserves understanding. She deserves love. 170 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:34,180 If I could switch places with you this second, I'd do it. 171 00:08:34,216 --> 00:08:35,366 I would do it. 172 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:36,430 I know that. 173 00:08:39,233 --> 00:08:41,303 Kaye: After nearly 3 years of legal twists, 174 00:08:41,333 --> 00:08:45,003 turns, and delays, the trial of Casey Anthony started today. 175 00:08:45,033 --> 00:08:48,353 ♪♪ 176 00:08:48,383 --> 00:08:50,073 Velez-Mitchell: Opening statements begin. 177 00:08:50,100 --> 00:08:51,330 It was so dramatic. 178 00:08:51,366 --> 00:08:55,016 It was just like a tinderbox of tension in that courtroom. 179 00:08:55,050 --> 00:09:01,050 This isn't just a case about Casey Marie Anthony, 180 00:09:01,083 --> 00:09:04,483 it's a story about Caylee Anthony as well. 181 00:09:05,016 --> 00:09:08,126 Linda Drane-Burdick gave the opening for the prosecution, 182 00:09:08,166 --> 00:09:13,416 and she basically took them through the 31-day timeline 183 00:09:13,450 --> 00:09:16,000 of what Casey was doing from the time 184 00:09:16,033 --> 00:09:17,133 Caylee was last seen. 185 00:09:17,166 --> 00:09:19,416 And at the end of summarizing each day, 186 00:09:19,450 --> 00:09:22,370 and Casey's lies about that day, she would say... 187 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:26,450 Where is Caylee Anthony? 188 00:09:26,483 --> 00:09:31,223 Perry: The prosecution's story was simply that Casey Anthony 189 00:09:31,250 --> 00:09:35,200 had grown sort of uneasy with her daughter. 190 00:09:35,233 --> 00:09:36,403 Jordan: The idea came that 191 00:09:36,433 --> 00:09:39,253 maybe she wanted to get rid of her daughter 192 00:09:39,283 --> 00:09:42,073 so that she could just be completely free 193 00:09:42,100 --> 00:09:43,430 to live the life she wanted. 194 00:09:43,466 --> 00:09:47,176 Google searches were done on that computer for the words 195 00:09:47,216 --> 00:09:51,426 "chloroform," "alcohol," "acetone," and "peroxide." 196 00:09:51,466 --> 00:09:54,126 Google searches were conducted for quote, 197 00:09:54,166 --> 00:09:56,146 "how to make chloroform." 198 00:09:56,183 --> 00:09:59,133 So chloroform is a key issue in this case 199 00:09:59,166 --> 00:10:01,326 because super high levels of chloroform 200 00:10:01,366 --> 00:10:03,076 were found in the trunk of the car. 201 00:10:03,116 --> 00:10:04,366 And chloroform searches 202 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:08,320 were conducted on the Anthony computer. 203 00:10:08,350 --> 00:10:10,480 Kobilinsky: The prosecutors decided that 204 00:10:11,016 --> 00:10:13,316 because there was chloroform found in the trunk 205 00:10:13,350 --> 00:10:17,150 and because there was duct tape in the front of the skull 206 00:10:17,183 --> 00:10:20,003 that this was an intentional homicide. 207 00:10:20,033 --> 00:10:24,433 Their thinking was that Casey had used chloroform 208 00:10:24,466 --> 00:10:26,366 to quiet the child 209 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:29,350 and then covered her nose and mouth with duct tape. 210 00:10:29,383 --> 00:10:33,123 Burdick: Three pieces of overlapping duct tape 211 00:10:33,150 --> 00:10:36,200 covered the nose and mouth of Caylee Anthony. 212 00:10:36,233 --> 00:10:40,023 So that she couldn't breathe and she would never be able 213 00:10:40,050 --> 00:10:44,300 to awake from her chloroform sleep. 214 00:10:44,333 --> 00:10:47,223 Karas: The state said Casey had driven around for a while 215 00:10:47,250 --> 00:10:49,020 with the body in the back of her car 216 00:10:49,050 --> 00:10:51,150 until finally disposing of Caylee 217 00:10:51,183 --> 00:10:55,003 in an area 1/4 mile from her home. 218 00:10:55,033 --> 00:10:58,203 Well, when it came time for Jose Baez, 219 00:10:58,233 --> 00:11:01,053 he just yanks the rug right out from under them. 220 00:11:01,083 --> 00:11:02,323 Good afternoon, ladies and gentleman. 221 00:11:02,350 --> 00:11:04,320 I think it was one of the most shocking moments 222 00:11:04,350 --> 00:11:07,270 of any trial I've ever covered. 223 00:11:07,300 --> 00:11:10,420 Everyone wants to know what happened. 224 00:11:10,450 --> 00:11:15,080 How in the world can a mother wait 30 days 225 00:11:15,116 --> 00:11:17,216 before ever reporting her child missing? 226 00:11:17,250 --> 00:11:21,300 The defense, to use Nancy Grace's phrase, 227 00:11:21,333 --> 00:11:22,473 dropped a bombshell. 228 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:26,350 The answer is actually relatively simple. 229 00:11:26,383 --> 00:11:29,053 She never was missing. 230 00:11:29,083 --> 00:11:32,403 Caylee Anthony died on June 16, 2008 231 00:11:32,433 --> 00:11:35,253 when she drowned in her family's swimming pool. 232 00:11:35,283 --> 00:11:38,333 Jose Baez said Caylee wasn't missing. 233 00:11:38,366 --> 00:11:40,216 There was no murder. 234 00:11:40,250 --> 00:11:41,400 She drowned. 235 00:11:41,433 --> 00:11:43,133 It was an accident. 236 00:11:43,166 --> 00:11:46,126 So he totally changed the manner of death 237 00:11:46,166 --> 00:11:48,046 from homicide to accident. 238 00:11:48,083 --> 00:11:51,223 Perry: That totally shocked that courtroom. 239 00:11:51,250 --> 00:11:56,470 Baez: On June 16, 2008, Casey was home with Caylee, 240 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:58,370 and so was her father. 241 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:02,030 They have an above-ground pool, with a ladder. 242 00:12:02,066 --> 00:12:04,366 The defense showed many examples 243 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:07,150 of the family being in the water. 244 00:12:07,183 --> 00:12:09,233 Baez: Caylee loved to swim, 245 00:12:09,266 --> 00:12:12,266 and Caylee could get out of the house very easily 246 00:12:12,300 --> 00:12:14,120 and did so on that day. 247 00:12:14,150 --> 00:12:17,200 Mason: What we believe was that Caylee 248 00:12:17,233 --> 00:12:18,323 let herself out -- 249 00:12:18,350 --> 00:12:20,330 We had a picture showing her ability to do that -- 250 00:12:20,366 --> 00:12:23,246 went out and got into the pool and she drowned. 251 00:12:23,283 --> 00:12:26,453 He talked about how George had found her. 252 00:12:26,483 --> 00:12:31,373 Baez: Casey saw George Anthony holding Caylee in his arms. 253 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:36,250 She immediately grabbed Caylee and began to cry 254 00:12:36,283 --> 00:12:39,103 and cry and cry. 255 00:12:39,133 --> 00:12:42,083 And shortly thereafter, George began to yell at her. 256 00:12:42,116 --> 00:12:44,196 "Look what you've done! 257 00:12:44,233 --> 00:12:47,033 Your mother will never forgive you, 258 00:12:47,066 --> 00:12:49,066 and you will go to jail for child neglect 259 00:12:49,100 --> 00:12:51,070 for the rest of your fricking life." 260 00:12:51,100 --> 00:12:53,020 Then came the cover-up, 261 00:12:53,050 --> 00:12:57,120 for which Jose Baez suggested George was entirely responsible. 262 00:12:57,150 --> 00:12:59,430 Karas: The defense said it was George who disposed of the body, 263 00:12:59,466 --> 00:13:01,316 not Casey. 264 00:13:03,350 --> 00:13:06,200 Velez-Mitchell: Then Jose Baez proceeds to totally get rid 265 00:13:06,233 --> 00:13:07,433 of all the lies by saying, 266 00:13:07,466 --> 00:13:09,196 "Well, why does she lie so much?" 267 00:13:09,233 --> 00:13:14,123 And it all began when Casey was eight years old 268 00:13:14,150 --> 00:13:16,220 and her father came into her room 269 00:13:16,250 --> 00:13:18,380 and began to touch her inappropriately. 270 00:13:18,416 --> 00:13:22,326 Jose Baez laid out that Casey 271 00:13:22,366 --> 00:13:26,296 had been sexually abused by her father. 272 00:13:26,333 --> 00:13:29,073 And he did it in graphic terms. 273 00:13:29,100 --> 00:13:32,050 Baez: Casey was raised to lie. 274 00:13:32,083 --> 00:13:34,053 She could be 13 years old, 275 00:13:34,083 --> 00:13:36,053 have her father's penis in her mouth, 276 00:13:36,083 --> 00:13:38,273 and then go to school and play with the other kids 277 00:13:38,300 --> 00:13:41,200 as if nothing ever happened. 278 00:13:41,233 --> 00:13:42,403 Everybody's like, "[Gasps] 279 00:13:42,433 --> 00:13:45,123 Oh, my God, did he really say that?" 280 00:13:45,150 --> 00:13:47,220 It was astounding. 281 00:13:47,250 --> 00:13:49,450 Kobilinsky: The defense wanted to shift the blame 282 00:13:49,483 --> 00:13:51,353 from Casey to George. 283 00:13:51,383 --> 00:13:54,203 He became the bad guy. 284 00:13:54,233 --> 00:13:55,373 Savage: George was an easy fall man 285 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:57,450 because he was one of the last people 286 00:13:57,483 --> 00:14:00,053 to have seen Caylee alive. 287 00:14:00,083 --> 00:14:01,203 Velez-Mitchell: A big problem for the prosecution, 288 00:14:01,233 --> 00:14:03,053 all the forensic evidence they collected 289 00:14:03,083 --> 00:14:05,233 at the crime scene where little Caylee was found -- 290 00:14:05,266 --> 00:14:08,096 the garbage bag, the duct tape, the laundry bag, 291 00:14:08,133 --> 00:14:09,283 the Winnie the Pooh blanket -- 292 00:14:09,316 --> 00:14:11,296 it all connects back to the Anthony home, 293 00:14:11,333 --> 00:14:14,483 but that could just as easily be used to implicate George. 294 00:14:15,016 --> 00:14:18,246 Karas: So that could play right into the defense's argument 295 00:14:18,283 --> 00:14:23,253 that George was responsible for disposing of the body. 296 00:14:23,283 --> 00:14:27,333 This whole drowning accident was a big surprise to the media, 297 00:14:27,366 --> 00:14:30,316 but it wasn't a surprise to the prosecution 298 00:14:30,350 --> 00:14:32,030 and to George and Cindy Anthony. 299 00:14:32,066 --> 00:14:34,076 Because before trial, 300 00:14:34,116 --> 00:14:36,266 the defense alerted the prosecution 301 00:14:36,300 --> 00:14:38,280 that this was where they were going. 302 00:14:38,316 --> 00:14:42,426 I insisted that we call George Anthony and tell him. 303 00:14:42,466 --> 00:14:46,046 After that, George wrote Casey a letter... 304 00:15:18,050 --> 00:15:20,220 You know how much I love you, how much I've always loved you. 305 00:15:20,250 --> 00:15:24,370 You'll always be my buddy, even besides my dad. 306 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:27,270 Velez-Mitchell: This is a story about betrayal. 307 00:15:27,300 --> 00:15:31,450 And Casey Anthony's family was totally betrayed by Casey. 308 00:15:31,483 --> 00:15:34,083 He can't fathom the idea 309 00:15:34,116 --> 00:15:38,996 that she will destroy anyone to save herself. 310 00:15:39,033 --> 00:15:41,153 Jordan: The jury could not unhear that. 311 00:15:41,183 --> 00:15:43,483 Is it first-degree murder, or was it an accident 312 00:15:44,016 --> 00:15:45,366 that her father covered up? 313 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:50,220 It told me that George Anthony was going to be the centerpiece. 314 00:15:50,250 --> 00:15:54,130 They were going to lay a lot of blame on him, 315 00:15:54,166 --> 00:15:57,126 and that's exactly what they did. 316 00:15:57,166 --> 00:15:59,396 All of our lives are not gonna be what we're used to. 317 00:15:59,433 --> 00:16:01,353 You know, people ask me, "What is it going to be like 318 00:16:01,383 --> 00:16:03,253 to be normal again?" 319 00:16:08,150 --> 00:16:09,200 I'm not in control over any of this 320 00:16:09,233 --> 00:16:12,173 because I don't know what the hell is going on. 321 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:13,330 I don't know what's going on. 322 00:16:13,366 --> 00:16:18,226 My entire life has been taken from me. 323 00:16:18,266 --> 00:16:20,146 Banfield: So Jose Baez suggested 324 00:16:20,183 --> 00:16:23,003 that Caylee had been dead all along 325 00:16:23,033 --> 00:16:25,123 and Casey knew it and George knew it. 326 00:16:27,250 --> 00:16:31,080 She died in the pool in the backyard. 327 00:16:31,116 --> 00:16:34,446 And if that wasn't enough, Baez tried to figure out a way 328 00:16:34,483 --> 00:16:39,053 to mitigate the colossal lying that Casey had done. 329 00:16:39,083 --> 00:16:42,053 And I guess, the theory he came up with was that 330 00:16:42,083 --> 00:16:43,433 she was a victim of sex abuse 331 00:16:43,466 --> 00:16:47,066 at the hands of her dad. 332 00:16:47,100 --> 00:16:48,350 Would you just please start by stating your name 333 00:16:48,383 --> 00:16:49,383 for the record? 334 00:16:49,416 --> 00:16:51,226 George A. Anthony. 335 00:16:51,266 --> 00:16:54,116 George was the first witness that Jeff Ashton called. 336 00:16:54,150 --> 00:16:56,130 Very soon he was asked whether or not 337 00:16:56,166 --> 00:16:57,426 he ever sexually abused his daughter 338 00:16:57,466 --> 00:17:00,316 or had anything to do with disposing of Caylee's remains. 339 00:17:00,350 --> 00:17:03,170 And it was all denial, "Absolutely not." 340 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:07,130 Ashton: Have you ever sexually molested 341 00:17:07,166 --> 00:17:11,216 your daughter Casey Anthony? 342 00:17:11,250 --> 00:17:12,450 No, sir. 343 00:17:12,483 --> 00:17:17,073 If you look at him, I think the inherent rage in his answer 344 00:17:17,100 --> 00:17:20,420 when he flatly denies it, I believed him. 345 00:17:20,450 --> 00:17:27,080 Were you present in your home when Caylee Anthony died? 346 00:17:27,116 --> 00:17:30,266 No, and when I heard that today, it hurt really bad. 347 00:17:30,300 --> 00:17:31,450 Because if I would have known something would 348 00:17:31,483 --> 00:17:34,253 have happened to Caylee, we wouldn't be here today. 349 00:17:34,283 --> 00:17:37,173 But at this point, jurors didn't like him. 350 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:39,320 What they had learned in the opening statement, 351 00:17:39,350 --> 00:17:40,400 they didn't like him. 352 00:17:40,433 --> 00:17:43,323 Perry: George's credibility was assaulted, 353 00:17:43,350 --> 00:17:47,100 and any positive testimony 354 00:17:47,133 --> 00:17:50,103 that he gave was totally neutralized. 355 00:17:50,133 --> 00:17:54,073 The defense combed the lives of the Anthony family 356 00:17:54,100 --> 00:17:56,080 and came up with the history 357 00:17:56,116 --> 00:17:59,146 of how the family buried their pets. 358 00:17:59,183 --> 00:18:02,303 Baez: And how was that dog buried? 359 00:18:02,333 --> 00:18:05,253 Uh, in our yard, where we used to live at. 360 00:18:05,283 --> 00:18:08,453 They would put the dead pet in the bags 361 00:18:08,483 --> 00:18:12,033 and then wrap them with duct tape. 362 00:18:12,066 --> 00:18:17,116 Just like Caylee had been disposed of in that swamp. 363 00:18:17,150 --> 00:18:18,420 Jordan: The theory of the defense was that George 364 00:18:18,450 --> 00:18:21,380 put the body out there almost as the same ritual 365 00:18:21,416 --> 00:18:24,346 of when they would have buried a pet when Casey was a child. 366 00:18:24,383 --> 00:18:28,033 Was the dog wrapped in a blanket? 367 00:18:28,066 --> 00:18:33,076 To the best of my recollection, probably, yes. 368 00:18:33,116 --> 00:18:36,326 Every time the prosecution tried to paint George as sympathetic, 369 00:18:36,366 --> 00:18:38,996 the defense would use the same evidence 370 00:18:39,033 --> 00:18:41,423 to paint him as somebody suspicious. 371 00:18:41,450 --> 00:18:44,250 To wit, the suicide note. 372 00:18:44,283 --> 00:18:45,483 There came a point in time where he -- 373 00:18:46,016 --> 00:18:47,116 he attempted suicide. 374 00:18:47,150 --> 00:18:50,120 When Caylee's body was found, obviously, 375 00:18:50,150 --> 00:18:52,430 any hope that she was still alive was dashed. 376 00:18:52,466 --> 00:18:55,226 George ended up, of course, taking pills, 377 00:18:55,266 --> 00:18:59,266 and writing a long, emotional suicide note. 378 00:18:59,300 --> 00:19:04,180 Late January of 2009, you attempted to commit suicide. 379 00:19:07,250 --> 00:19:09,020 Did you, sir? 380 00:19:09,050 --> 00:19:10,330 Yes, sir, I did. 381 00:19:10,366 --> 00:19:19,426 ♪♪ 382 00:19:19,466 --> 00:19:21,246 You expressed some guilt, did you not, sir? 383 00:19:21,283 --> 00:19:23,323 Ashton: Objection. 384 00:19:23,350 --> 00:19:25,450 Jordan: This was grabbed by Jose Baez 385 00:19:25,483 --> 00:19:28,373 and used against George to basically say, 386 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:31,330 "Well, he is suicidal and he's trying to kill himself 387 00:19:31,366 --> 00:19:34,316 and he's writing suicide notes because he is responsible." 388 00:19:34,350 --> 00:19:41,270 ♪♪ 389 00:19:41,300 --> 00:19:44,350 Do you know George Anthony? Yes. 390 00:19:44,383 --> 00:19:46,223 Jordan: It was clear the defense strategy 391 00:19:46,250 --> 00:19:49,230 was to make George Anthony the culprit, 392 00:19:49,266 --> 00:19:51,196 beyond that, to demonize him. 393 00:19:51,233 --> 00:19:53,053 And part of that strategy included 394 00:19:53,083 --> 00:19:55,283 introducing a woman named Krystal Holloway, 395 00:19:55,316 --> 00:19:58,266 who said she'd had an affair with George. 396 00:19:58,300 --> 00:20:01,020 Did you develop a relationship with Mr. Anthony? 397 00:20:01,050 --> 00:20:02,300 Yes, sir, I did. 398 00:20:02,333 --> 00:20:08,083 Krystal Holloway testified that George Anthony told her 399 00:20:08,116 --> 00:20:11,226 that he believed what happened to Caylee 400 00:20:11,266 --> 00:20:15,196 was an accident that went horribly awry. 401 00:20:15,233 --> 00:20:17,233 He had said it was an accident 402 00:20:17,266 --> 00:20:22,026 that snowballed out of control, but I was in shock. 403 00:20:22,066 --> 00:20:25,096 So the defense uses that to point the finger at George 404 00:20:25,133 --> 00:20:29,153 to damage his credibility, to paint him as a cheater, 405 00:20:29,183 --> 00:20:33,073 and also to say that he was the one 406 00:20:33,100 --> 00:20:35,100 who knew that it was an accident 407 00:20:35,133 --> 00:20:38,133 because he found the child's body. 408 00:20:38,166 --> 00:20:41,116 Golenbock: George took the stand and he denied 409 00:20:41,150 --> 00:20:43,400 ever having an affair with Krystal Holloway. 410 00:20:43,433 --> 00:20:46,323 Did you have a romantic relationship with her? 411 00:20:46,350 --> 00:20:47,430 [ Chuckles ] No, sir. 412 00:20:47,466 --> 00:20:49,016 No. 413 00:20:49,050 --> 00:20:51,130 To me, that's -- that's, uh, very funny. 414 00:20:51,166 --> 00:20:52,376 But if you listen to the jurors, 415 00:20:52,416 --> 00:20:54,196 they didn't believe him for a second. 416 00:20:54,233 --> 00:20:58,153 Banfield: George was curt on the stand and defensive. 417 00:20:58,183 --> 00:20:59,283 Cindy, on the other hand, 418 00:20:59,316 --> 00:21:02,366 was a completely different witness. 419 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:06,100 Burdick: In 2005, were you blessed with a grandchild? 420 00:21:06,133 --> 00:21:07,033 Yes, ma'am. 421 00:21:07,066 --> 00:21:08,366 Okay, who was that? 422 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:11,100 Caylee Marie. 423 00:21:11,133 --> 00:21:15,183 Karas: Cindy Anthony was very emotional on the stand. 424 00:21:22,083 --> 00:21:24,133 You had to feel sorry for Cindy Anthony. 425 00:21:24,166 --> 00:21:27,196 Obviously, this is a woman tormented by the idea 426 00:21:27,233 --> 00:21:31,173 that in order to have justice for her granddaughter, 427 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:33,270 she would have to say things 428 00:21:33,300 --> 00:21:36,080 that would implicate her daughter, 429 00:21:36,116 --> 00:21:39,046 and she just couldn't bring herself to do it. 430 00:21:39,083 --> 00:21:43,103 She backtracked on everything that she initially told police. 431 00:21:43,133 --> 00:21:46,453 Most notably, "It smells like there's a dead body 432 00:21:46,483 --> 00:21:48,233 in the damn car." 433 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:59,180 Baez: When you got the car and it was in the garage, 434 00:21:59,216 --> 00:22:02,116 it was your understanding that what you were smelling 435 00:22:02,150 --> 00:22:03,300 was garbage, was it not? 436 00:22:03,333 --> 00:22:05,283 Yes, sir. Yes, sir. 437 00:22:05,316 --> 00:22:08,326 And you're clear about that? 438 00:22:08,366 --> 00:22:09,996 Yes, sir. 439 00:22:10,033 --> 00:22:12,473 Karas: She clearly was trying to help her daughter. 440 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,400 You used the computer at your home, correct? 441 00:22:15,433 --> 00:22:18,423 One of the most damning pieces of evidence 442 00:22:18,450 --> 00:22:23,170 was that the forensic analysis of the Anthony home computer 443 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:25,420 showed that there had been Internet searches 444 00:22:25,450 --> 00:22:28,320 for chloroform. 445 00:22:28,350 --> 00:22:33,070 The chloroform search was critical because we believed 446 00:22:33,100 --> 00:22:35,320 that potentially it was one of the -- 447 00:22:35,350 --> 00:22:39,230 the ways in which Caylee could have -- could have died. 448 00:22:39,266 --> 00:22:42,196 Karas: When Cindy's questioned about the chloroform searches, 449 00:22:42,233 --> 00:22:44,083 she takes the blame for it. 450 00:22:44,116 --> 00:22:45,366 She says those were her searches. 451 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:49,280 Do you recall in March of 2008 452 00:22:49,316 --> 00:22:52,116 you doing any types of searches 453 00:22:52,150 --> 00:22:57,450 for any items that might include chloroform? 454 00:22:57,483 --> 00:23:00,403 Yes. I started looking up chloroform, 455 00:23:00,433 --> 00:23:02,003 I mean chlorophyll, 456 00:23:02,033 --> 00:23:05,023 and then that prompted me to look up chloroform. 457 00:23:05,050 --> 00:23:06,280 I think she was doing everything she could 458 00:23:06,316 --> 00:23:07,476 to help save her daughter. 459 00:23:08,016 --> 00:23:12,076 A lot people have been asking whether or not your office 460 00:23:12,116 --> 00:23:14,166 will file perjury charges against her? 461 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:17,200 Clearly, you know, she said that she did a certain thing 462 00:23:17,233 --> 00:23:21,123 on a certain day and the records clearly show she didn't. 463 00:23:21,150 --> 00:23:23,020 Burdick: Mrs. Anthony, is it your testimony 464 00:23:23,050 --> 00:23:26,000 that despite the fact that your work records show 465 00:23:26,033 --> 00:23:29,003 that you worked, that you were home between the hours 466 00:23:29,033 --> 00:23:36,473 of 1:43 p.m. and 1:55 p.m. on March 17, 2008? 467 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:38,070 it's possible, yes. 468 00:23:38,100 --> 00:23:41,120 Perry: I would have put Cindy on just one time. 469 00:23:41,150 --> 00:23:42,380 Beyond that, it's like 470 00:23:42,416 --> 00:23:44,996 playing Russian roulette with 6 bullets -- 471 00:23:45,033 --> 00:23:46,153 you're going to blow your brains out 472 00:23:46,183 --> 00:23:49,253 with Cindy Anthony as a witness. 473 00:23:49,283 --> 00:23:52,383 After the trial's over, the most damning piece of evidence 474 00:23:52,416 --> 00:23:56,346 is revealed by Jose Baez himself, 475 00:23:56,383 --> 00:24:00,103 when he says that an Internet search 476 00:24:00,133 --> 00:24:05,353 for "foolproof suffocation" was done on the very last day 477 00:24:05,383 --> 00:24:08,033 that little Caylee was seen alive. 478 00:24:08,066 --> 00:24:10,346 Ahh. Why didn't the prosecution know that? 479 00:24:10,383 --> 00:24:11,453 Foolproof suffocation, 480 00:24:11,483 --> 00:24:13,253 that would have been helpful. 481 00:24:13,283 --> 00:24:15,433 The cops never found that Internet search 482 00:24:15,466 --> 00:24:19,196 because they didn't inspect the browser that Casey liked to use, 483 00:24:19,233 --> 00:24:21,473 which was Mozilla Firefox. 484 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,050 They searched other browsers. 485 00:24:24,083 --> 00:24:27,233 So the most damning piece of evidence, they missed. 486 00:24:27,266 --> 00:24:30,296 Karas: I don't know if it would have convinced 12 jurors, 487 00:24:30,333 --> 00:24:34,183 but it certainly wouldn't have hurt. 488 00:24:36,250 --> 00:24:39,180 Ashton: Do you have an opinion as to the manner 489 00:24:39,216 --> 00:24:40,996 of death in this case? 490 00:24:41,033 --> 00:24:43,303 You were trying to argue reason and science 491 00:24:43,333 --> 00:24:44,473 in an alternate universe. 492 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:46,280 You want to scream. 493 00:24:52,466 --> 00:24:54,096 Casey: We're all going to be back there. 494 00:24:54,133 --> 00:24:57,223 We're all going to be home together. 495 00:24:57,250 --> 00:25:00,180 You guys just need to have strong faith, 496 00:25:00,216 --> 00:25:03,076 just keep believing that. 497 00:25:03,116 --> 00:25:04,376 Welcome back to "How It Really Happened." 498 00:25:04,416 --> 00:25:06,166 I'm Hill Harper. 499 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:07,300 By June 2011, 500 00:25:07,333 --> 00:25:10,403 Florida vs. Casey Anthony was in full swing. 501 00:25:10,433 --> 00:25:12,253 Prosecutors claimed Caylee was murdered 502 00:25:12,283 --> 00:25:14,333 by her mother, Casey, and believed it was done 503 00:25:14,366 --> 00:25:17,346 using a combination of chloroform and duct tape. 504 00:25:17,383 --> 00:25:19,273 The defense team said it was an accident -- 505 00:25:19,300 --> 00:25:22,270 little Caylee drowned in the Anthony family pool. 506 00:25:22,300 --> 00:25:25,430 A fierce court battle was about to ignite over forensics. 507 00:25:25,466 --> 00:25:29,466 The critical question -- How did Caylee die? 508 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:33,350 ♪♪ 509 00:25:33,383 --> 00:25:36,203 My name is Dr. Jan Garavaglia. 510 00:25:36,233 --> 00:25:39,283 A medical examiner gives two opinions. 511 00:25:39,316 --> 00:25:40,326 One is the manner of death. 512 00:25:40,366 --> 00:25:42,246 Is it homicide, suicide, accident, 513 00:25:42,283 --> 00:25:44,253 natural causes, undetermined? 514 00:25:44,283 --> 00:25:45,333 Ashton: Do you have an opinion 515 00:25:45,366 --> 00:25:49,076 as to the manner of death in this case? 516 00:25:49,116 --> 00:25:50,026 Yes. 517 00:25:50,066 --> 00:25:51,076 What is that opinion? 518 00:25:51,116 --> 00:25:52,126 Homicide. 519 00:25:52,166 --> 00:25:53,316 Karas: The other one is cause of death, 520 00:25:53,350 --> 00:25:56,150 like what actually is the mechanism that caused the death. 521 00:25:56,183 --> 00:25:57,253 Jordan: The body had been in the woods 522 00:25:57,283 --> 00:25:59,383 for so long partially submerged, 523 00:25:59,416 --> 00:26:05,176 that how Caylee died would never be definitively determined. 524 00:26:05,216 --> 00:26:07,466 We don't have any soft tissue, we don't have any blood, 525 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:09,130 we don't have any bone marrow. 526 00:26:09,166 --> 00:26:12,226 These are dry, non-smelly bones. 527 00:26:12,266 --> 00:26:16,446 I couldn't definitively say what the cause of death is. 528 00:26:16,483 --> 00:26:20,283 But there is enough circumstantial evidence. 529 00:26:20,316 --> 00:26:24,016 There is no child that should have duct tape 530 00:26:24,050 --> 00:26:26,200 on its face when it dies. 531 00:26:26,233 --> 00:26:29,253 And so she put two and two together 532 00:26:29,283 --> 00:26:32,033 and said somebody killed this child 533 00:26:32,066 --> 00:26:37,146 by placing duct tape over the mouth and over the nose. 534 00:26:37,183 --> 00:26:42,383 That is not, uh, necessarily true. 535 00:26:42,416 --> 00:26:44,416 But that was her conclusion. 536 00:26:44,450 --> 00:26:47,120 And that's what the prosecution went with. 537 00:26:47,150 --> 00:26:50,070 Mason: You're saying that circumstantial evidence 538 00:26:50,100 --> 00:26:55,300 to you says that it probably was a homicide. 539 00:26:55,333 --> 00:26:59,423 Not probably, I think that is the only logical conclusion 540 00:26:59,450 --> 00:27:01,050 based on information 541 00:27:01,083 --> 00:27:04,433 we have about homicides and children dying. 542 00:27:04,466 --> 00:27:07,126 Garavaglia: She was in control of the child. 543 00:27:07,166 --> 00:27:09,346 She never reported the child missing. 544 00:27:09,383 --> 00:27:13,203 The child is found dead in an abandoned field 545 00:27:13,233 --> 00:27:16,403 a 4th of a mile from her house, rotting in a plastic bag 546 00:27:16,433 --> 00:27:19,383 behind a rotten log to try to hide the body, 547 00:27:19,416 --> 00:27:22,316 with duct tape over the lower face. 548 00:27:22,350 --> 00:27:26,070 We don't need anything else. 549 00:27:26,100 --> 00:27:27,280 Kobilinsky: The defense is saying 550 00:27:27,316 --> 00:27:30,476 Caylee died based on a swimming accident, 551 00:27:31,016 --> 00:27:32,376 an accident in the swimming pool, 552 00:27:32,416 --> 00:27:35,016 somehow she got in and drowned. 553 00:27:35,050 --> 00:27:36,450 Garavaglia: I thought the drowning theory 554 00:27:36,483 --> 00:27:40,033 was total hog wash for many reasons. 555 00:27:40,066 --> 00:27:41,096 Ashton: When you were a law enforcement officer, 556 00:27:41,133 --> 00:27:43,433 were you trained in CPR? George: Yes, sir. 557 00:27:43,466 --> 00:27:47,276 is there any extent that you would not have gone to 558 00:27:47,316 --> 00:27:50,276 to save Caylee's life? 559 00:27:50,316 --> 00:27:53,426 I would have done everything possible, humanly possible 560 00:27:53,466 --> 00:27:55,116 to save my granddaughter 561 00:27:55,150 --> 00:27:59,230 First of all, why didn't she mention it? 562 00:27:59,266 --> 00:28:01,446 Why would you not call EMS? 563 00:28:01,483 --> 00:28:03,303 We know that most people, 564 00:28:03,333 --> 00:28:08,203 when there's an accidental drowning, call 911. 565 00:28:08,233 --> 00:28:11,433 Accidental drownings don't turn into homicides 566 00:28:11,466 --> 00:28:14,116 or people disposing of bodies. 567 00:28:14,150 --> 00:28:18,070 Tell this jury, 100%, 568 00:28:18,100 --> 00:28:21,130 that there's no way that this death 569 00:28:21,166 --> 00:28:23,426 could have been accidental. 570 00:28:23,466 --> 00:28:27,276 Mason: The evidence did not establish how that child died, 571 00:28:27,316 --> 00:28:30,166 when she died, where she died, 572 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:34,080 and who, if anyone, was with her when she died. 573 00:28:34,116 --> 00:28:38,366 Juries really don't like to guess how people die. 574 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:43,200 ♪♪ 575 00:28:43,233 --> 00:28:45,083 Frank: When you first opened the garage door, 576 00:28:45,116 --> 00:28:49,066 and walked into the garage what do you recall noticing? 577 00:28:49,100 --> 00:28:50,100 Lee: A smell. 578 00:28:50,133 --> 00:28:52,453 Was it an offensive smell? Yes. 579 00:28:52,483 --> 00:28:54,233 The decomposition that I smelled 580 00:28:54,266 --> 00:28:56,446 in the trunk of my daughter's car 581 00:28:56,483 --> 00:28:59,173 smelled like human decomposition. 582 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,150 Another battle came with another expert later, 583 00:29:02,183 --> 00:29:08,203 Arpad Vass, about whether or not his experiments and research 584 00:29:08,233 --> 00:29:12,233 into the odor of decomposition is really a valid good science. 585 00:29:12,266 --> 00:29:14,126 Kobilinsky: There are many issues that come out as 586 00:29:14,166 --> 00:29:19,366 to whether that is a reliable indication of a body or not. 587 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:23,300 What that meant is that chemistry needed to be applied 588 00:29:23,333 --> 00:29:27,053 and samples were taken from the trunk. 589 00:29:27,083 --> 00:29:29,403 The large peak was identified as chloroform. 590 00:29:29,433 --> 00:29:32,303 The prosecution decided that they would be going 591 00:29:32,333 --> 00:29:36,123 with this technology that Dr. Vass was using 592 00:29:36,150 --> 00:29:39,100 to test the air in the trunk. 593 00:29:39,133 --> 00:29:41,273 They thought this was state of the art. 594 00:29:41,300 --> 00:29:44,070 I think it was more not ready for prime time. 595 00:29:44,100 --> 00:29:48,120 That tevlar bag is a polyvinyl fluoride type of plastic. 596 00:29:48,150 --> 00:29:52,170 Was it a little too technical for the jurors to understand? 597 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:53,380 I didn't think so. 598 00:29:53,416 --> 00:29:55,466 The danger with forensic evidence 599 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,080 is that if you make it too complicated, 600 00:29:58,116 --> 00:29:59,146 if they don't understand it, 601 00:29:59,183 --> 00:30:01,233 then they're going to disregard it. 602 00:30:01,266 --> 00:30:03,396 And the lesson of the O.J. Simpson case 603 00:30:03,433 --> 00:30:06,133 was keep it simple. 604 00:30:06,166 --> 00:30:07,426 Woman:Hi, Larry. Hi. 605 00:30:07,466 --> 00:30:09,296 I have a question for the Anthonys. 606 00:30:09,333 --> 00:30:13,233 Um, what will they do if their daughter is found guilty? 607 00:30:13,266 --> 00:30:18,326 Will they still support her or will they cut all ties? 608 00:30:18,366 --> 00:30:22,196 I can't cut ties from my own flesh and blood, so no. 609 00:30:22,233 --> 00:30:27,103 ♪♪ 610 00:30:27,133 --> 00:30:30,453 Banfield: So finally, June 30th, the defense rests, 611 00:30:30,483 --> 00:30:33,003 and they make the announcement in court, 612 00:30:33,033 --> 00:30:35,453 "Casey is not going to take the stand." 613 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:40,050 Perry: Is it your decision not to testify 614 00:30:40,083 --> 00:30:44,033 based upon consultation with your counsel? 615 00:30:44,066 --> 00:30:45,246 Yes, sir. 616 00:30:45,283 --> 00:30:47,153 Breaking news -- Casey Anthony's fate 617 00:30:47,183 --> 00:30:49,273 now in the hands of the jury. 618 00:30:49,300 --> 00:30:55,280 Going into verdict watch, people were pretty resolute -- 619 00:30:55,316 --> 00:30:57,116 she was going down. 620 00:30:57,150 --> 00:30:58,400 She was guilty. 621 00:30:58,433 --> 00:31:00,473 I thought the state had put on a strong case. 622 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:02,370 I thought a jury would return 623 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:06,070 a verdict of murder in the first degree. 624 00:31:06,100 --> 00:31:10,400 If you were to review all of the daily news coverage, 625 00:31:10,433 --> 00:31:12,473 there was no question 626 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:14,250 she was heading for the death penalty. 627 00:31:14,283 --> 00:31:15,473 Bombshell tonight -- 628 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,470 We are in a verdict watch here at the Orange County Courthouse. 629 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:22,250 Kobilinsky: I think the public felt they had it all wrapped up, 630 00:31:22,283 --> 00:31:25,183 I mean, this was a no-brainer. 631 00:31:25,216 --> 00:31:26,426 Casey did it. 632 00:31:26,466 --> 00:31:31,266 she's going to prison, or they're going to take her life. 633 00:31:31,300 --> 00:31:33,180 Savage: You could feel the tension in that room. 634 00:31:33,216 --> 00:31:35,196 As to the charge of first-degree murder, 635 00:31:35,233 --> 00:31:37,203 we the jury find the defendant... 636 00:31:42,350 --> 00:31:43,420 I love that little girl more than I ever thought 637 00:31:43,450 --> 00:31:45,330 I could love anything in this entire world, 638 00:31:45,366 --> 00:31:47,296 or anyone for that matter. 639 00:31:50,266 --> 00:31:52,126 Man: So this jury has been deliberating now 640 00:31:52,166 --> 00:31:53,476 10 hours and 40 minutes. 641 00:31:54,016 --> 00:31:56,366 We have word that the jury has a verdict 642 00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,280 in the Casey Anthony murder trial. 643 00:31:59,316 --> 00:32:02,376 After almost 11 hours of deliberation, 644 00:32:02,416 --> 00:32:06,226 on July 5th, the jurors returned their verdict. 645 00:32:06,266 --> 00:32:10,096 Mason: And so the judge comes in and the clerk, 646 00:32:10,133 --> 00:32:12,073 the deputies all gather. 647 00:32:14,166 --> 00:32:17,476 Perry: The court deputy brought the verdict forms up to me. 648 00:32:18,016 --> 00:32:19,196 Savage: You could feel the tension in that room. 649 00:32:19,233 --> 00:32:20,483 You couldn't even hear people breathing 650 00:32:21,016 --> 00:32:23,246 because people were literally holding their breath. 651 00:32:26,033 --> 00:32:30,023 Perry: Will the defendant rise, along with counsel? 652 00:32:30,050 --> 00:32:33,350 The State of Florida versus Casey Marie Anthony. 653 00:32:33,383 --> 00:32:36,023 As to the charge of first-degree murder, 654 00:32:36,050 --> 00:32:38,050 verdict as to count one, 655 00:32:38,083 --> 00:32:40,223 we the jury find the defendant not guilty. 656 00:32:40,250 --> 00:32:42,450 So say we all dated at Orlando, 657 00:32:42,483 --> 00:32:47,133 Orange County, Florida, on this fifth day of July, 2011. 658 00:32:47,166 --> 00:32:50,096 I was totally floored. 659 00:32:53,033 --> 00:32:55,373 Jordan: I was in complete shock and disbelief. 660 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:58,100 It knocked the wind out of me. 661 00:32:58,133 --> 00:33:03,083 Grace: You are seeing the inside of a stunned courtroom. 662 00:33:05,100 --> 00:33:07,020 Allen: It wasn't George's car that smelled 663 00:33:07,050 --> 00:33:10,000 like it had a dead body in it, it was Casey's car. 664 00:33:10,033 --> 00:33:11,483 It wasn't George that spent a month 665 00:33:12,016 --> 00:33:16,326 lying about where the baby was, 666 00:33:16,366 --> 00:33:18,076 it was Casey. 667 00:33:18,116 --> 00:33:20,996 Grace: Tot mom Casey Anthony has been found, 668 00:33:21,033 --> 00:33:25,473 for all intents and purposes, not guilty. 669 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:29,100 I thought, "Surely she would be responsible for something." 670 00:33:29,133 --> 00:33:32,103 Woman: Not guilty of aggravated manslaughter. 671 00:33:32,133 --> 00:33:35,233 Not guilty of aggravated child abuse. 672 00:33:35,266 --> 00:33:38,326 The only thing they found her guilty of 673 00:33:38,366 --> 00:33:41,266 was lying to the police. 674 00:33:41,300 --> 00:33:43,000 Savage: Casey was crying, and I thought 675 00:33:43,033 --> 00:33:45,153 that was all, like, manufactured crap. 676 00:33:45,183 --> 00:33:48,203 That she just pulled something over on the world. 677 00:33:48,233 --> 00:33:51,233 The devil is dancing tonight. 678 00:33:51,266 --> 00:33:54,326 I think the prosecution was stunned, 679 00:33:54,366 --> 00:33:56,196 and so was the public. 680 00:33:56,233 --> 00:33:57,473 They call this justice? 681 00:33:58,000 --> 00:33:59,100 O.J. number two. 682 00:33:59,133 --> 00:34:01,173 O.J. number two, that's what you're hearing here. 683 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:06,380 Fanning: It's as if all the outrage of any indecency 684 00:34:06,416 --> 00:34:09,166 that had ever been done to a child 685 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:14,120 was now all focused on one person -- Casey Anthony. 686 00:34:14,150 --> 00:34:16,180 Woman: It's wrong she got away with it. 687 00:34:16,216 --> 00:34:18,246 I can't even talk, I'm appalled by this. 688 00:34:18,283 --> 00:34:21,053 I mean, these people were angry. 689 00:34:21,083 --> 00:34:22,333 Crowd: [ Chanting ] Justice for Caylee, 690 00:34:22,366 --> 00:34:25,426 Justice for Caylee, Justice for Caylee. 691 00:34:25,466 --> 00:34:27,116 Mason: The only thing they did not have 692 00:34:27,150 --> 00:34:30,050 was pitchforks and ropes and burning torches. 693 00:34:30,083 --> 00:34:32,223 The best feeling that I have today, 694 00:34:32,250 --> 00:34:35,370 is that I know I can go home and my daughter will ask me, 695 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:38,230 "What did you do today?" 696 00:34:38,266 --> 00:34:40,376 And I can say, "I saved a life." 697 00:34:40,416 --> 00:34:42,296 I'm sure the question that was on everyone's mind 698 00:34:42,333 --> 00:34:45,053 at that moment was, "Are you kidding me?" 699 00:34:45,083 --> 00:34:47,133 How could the jury have thought this? 700 00:34:47,166 --> 00:34:49,066 How does that happen? 701 00:34:49,100 --> 00:34:53,150 I thought that the jury got it right. 702 00:34:53,183 --> 00:34:57,203 The state didn't prove their case. 703 00:34:57,233 --> 00:35:00,123 Cause of death would have been helpful. 704 00:35:00,150 --> 00:35:01,330 Like, really helpful. 705 00:35:01,366 --> 00:35:03,016 Or at least where it happened 706 00:35:03,050 --> 00:35:05,100 or when it happened or any witness or anyone 707 00:35:05,133 --> 00:35:09,353 even that would have said she was not a good mother. 708 00:35:09,383 --> 00:35:11,153 Velez-Mitchell: Prosecutors should beware 709 00:35:11,183 --> 00:35:12,433 of open-and-shut cases. 710 00:35:12,466 --> 00:35:15,166 Slam-dunk cases, I've seen it many times, 711 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,420 with the Michael Jackson child molestation case, 712 00:35:17,450 --> 00:35:21,350 with the O.J. Simpson case, and with the Casey Anthony case. 713 00:35:21,383 --> 00:35:25,133 These mega-cases are runaway freight trains. 714 00:35:25,166 --> 00:35:29,176 In chaos and confusion, there is reasonable doubt. 715 00:35:29,216 --> 00:35:31,226 Banfield: Probably mistake number one 716 00:35:31,266 --> 00:35:33,446 was charging her with first-degree murder 717 00:35:33,483 --> 00:35:36,453 and putting the death penalty on the table 718 00:35:36,483 --> 00:35:41,483 in a case where there were huge gaps in the facts. 719 00:35:42,016 --> 00:35:44,366 Velez-Mitchell: I think the prosecution could have done more 720 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:52,080 to spell out how they believed that Casey killed Caylee. 721 00:35:52,116 --> 00:35:54,216 I can't visualize it. 722 00:35:54,250 --> 00:35:56,100 While I don't believe the defense, 723 00:35:56,133 --> 00:36:01,223 I can totally visualize their version of events. 724 00:36:01,250 --> 00:36:05,270 Ultimately, the jury was asked a very simple question. 725 00:36:05,300 --> 00:36:07,100 "Do you know what killed this child? 726 00:36:07,133 --> 00:36:08,283 How did she die?" 727 00:36:08,316 --> 00:36:10,316 They don't know. 728 00:36:10,350 --> 00:36:12,250 Could it have been an accident? 729 00:36:12,283 --> 00:36:14,203 Sure. 730 00:36:14,233 --> 00:36:18,203 That did it, reasonable doubt, that's all they needed. 731 00:36:18,233 --> 00:36:21,123 Mason: She is convicted on four counts of lying to the police. 732 00:36:21,150 --> 00:36:24,200 He gave her a maximum sentence, a full year 733 00:36:24,233 --> 00:36:26,453 and a thousand-dollar fine for each of the four. 734 00:36:29,250 --> 00:36:32,030 Velez-Mitchell: July 17, 2011 -- 735 00:36:32,066 --> 00:36:34,366 we are waiting for the ultimate moment, 736 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:38,400 the moment that Casey is gonna waltz out from behind bars 737 00:36:38,433 --> 00:36:42,233 and disappear God knows where. 738 00:36:42,266 --> 00:36:46,196 [ Indistinct shouting ] 739 00:36:46,233 --> 00:36:49,433 And all of a sudden, shortly after midnight, 740 00:36:49,466 --> 00:36:51,126 there comes Casey. 741 00:36:51,166 --> 00:36:55,466 She gets into this vehicle and heads off into the night. 742 00:36:56,000 --> 00:37:00,170 ♪♪ 743 00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:04,070 After many years, Casey Anthony finally gives an interview. 744 00:37:04,100 --> 00:37:06,320 She's asked, point blank, what happened. 745 00:37:17,383 --> 00:37:25,303 ♪♪ 746 00:37:25,333 --> 00:37:26,373 Golenbock: Despite the verdict, 747 00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:29,430 Casey was still the most hated person in America. 748 00:37:29,466 --> 00:37:32,996 I suspect for a lot of people, it's still that way today. 749 00:37:33,033 --> 00:37:36,053 Casey's living out a very unusual life. 750 00:37:36,083 --> 00:37:37,483 Semi-seclusion, I think you could say. 751 00:37:38,016 --> 00:37:40,066 She's in West Palm Beach, Florida. 752 00:37:40,100 --> 00:37:44,180 Mason: Casey only recently has felt sufficiently safe 753 00:37:44,216 --> 00:37:48,446 to be able to go outside the house to go to a store 754 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,230 because of the threats. 755 00:37:51,266 --> 00:37:54,076 Ultimately, she ended up living with Pat McKenna, 756 00:37:54,116 --> 00:37:56,476 the lead investigator on the defense team, 757 00:37:57,016 --> 00:38:00,396 and he's somebody who also handled the O.J. Simpson case. 758 00:38:00,433 --> 00:38:06,103 ♪♪ 759 00:38:06,133 --> 00:38:11,323 ♪♪ 760 00:38:21,466 --> 00:38:24,196 Reporter: Right, so -- so you find -- 761 00:38:24,233 --> 00:38:26,183 you -- you feel like you're in the same boat in a way? 762 00:38:26,216 --> 00:38:27,276 There's a parallel. 763 00:38:27,316 --> 00:38:28,466 Casey: There are a lot of parallels. 764 00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:34,000 And I can empathize at least a little bit with his situation. 765 00:38:34,033 --> 00:38:37,003 Velez-Mitchell: She's doing research for Pat McKenna. 766 00:38:37,033 --> 00:38:40,183 She's also got her own "photography company." 767 00:38:40,216 --> 00:38:42,246 I don't know what it is about these women accused of murder. 768 00:38:42,283 --> 00:38:44,223 Jodi Arias was a photographer, too. 769 00:38:55,033 --> 00:38:57,133 To your understanding, how did she die? 770 00:38:57,166 --> 00:38:58,276 I don't know. You don't know? 771 00:38:58,316 --> 00:39:01,266 Something about drowning, possibly? 772 00:39:20,183 --> 00:39:23,153 She's asked, point blank, what happened. 773 00:39:23,183 --> 00:39:26,423 And she says, "I don't know." 774 00:39:45,283 --> 00:39:46,403 Mm-hmm. 775 00:39:46,433 --> 00:39:49,303 And then waking up several hours later 776 00:39:49,333 --> 00:39:50,333 in a panic. Later in the morning? 777 00:39:50,366 --> 00:39:53,346 Later in the morning, hour, two hours later 778 00:39:53,383 --> 00:39:55,323 and not knowing where she was. 779 00:39:58,416 --> 00:40:00,076 Velez-Mitchell: What I see is Casey trying 780 00:40:00,116 --> 00:40:01,296 to maintain her mystique, 781 00:40:01,333 --> 00:40:03,103 to intrigue the public, 782 00:40:03,133 --> 00:40:04,353 "Oh, wait, now we're back to square one. 783 00:40:04,383 --> 00:40:06,003 We don't know what happened." 784 00:40:09,466 --> 00:40:11,276 I personally don't believe her. 785 00:40:11,316 --> 00:40:13,426 I think she knows exactly what happened to her daughter. 786 00:40:13,466 --> 00:40:16,026 But she's a woman who can live with lies, 787 00:40:16,066 --> 00:40:18,196 and maybe she's convinced herself that she doesn't know. 788 00:40:34,100 --> 00:40:37,330 Casey just doesn't accept responsibility 789 00:40:37,366 --> 00:40:40,046 for what she did to her family. 790 00:40:40,083 --> 00:40:44,373 She doesn't care about anybody but Casey. 791 00:40:47,300 --> 00:40:52,380 Whether or not we will ever have closure on this, I doubt it, 792 00:40:52,416 --> 00:40:57,016 because there's only one person that can actually provide that, 793 00:40:57,050 --> 00:40:58,370 and that's Casey. 794 00:41:01,116 --> 00:41:02,996 We all pay for our sins, 795 00:41:03,033 --> 00:41:05,473 and some of us pay for it in this lifetime 796 00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:09,070 and some of us will pay for it in the next. 797 00:41:09,100 --> 00:41:12,400 She'll get what's coming to her, I'm very confident of that. 798 00:41:21,283 --> 00:41:28,203 ♪♪ 799 00:41:28,233 --> 00:41:30,353 Public outrage about the verdict in the Casey Anthony trial 800 00:41:30,383 --> 00:41:33,323 led to new legislation, not only in Florida, 801 00:41:33,350 --> 00:41:35,330 but in a few other states, as well. 802 00:41:35,366 --> 00:41:37,116 Known as Caylee's law, 803 00:41:37,150 --> 00:41:38,330 it criminalized a parent's failure 804 00:41:38,366 --> 00:41:41,326 to report a child missing or dead. 805 00:41:41,366 --> 00:41:44,246 After Casey's trial, prosecutors declined charging her mother 806 00:41:44,283 --> 00:41:48,103 with perjury for her testimony about chloroform searches. 807 00:41:48,133 --> 00:41:49,203 And after all this, 808 00:41:49,233 --> 00:41:52,033 George and Cindy Anthony stayed together, 809 00:41:52,066 --> 00:41:53,416 Casey and her mother still communicate. 810 00:41:53,450 --> 00:41:56,180 However, George says he has no interest 811 00:41:56,216 --> 00:41:59,016 in a relationship with his daughter. 812 00:41:59,050 --> 00:42:00,330 Thanks for watching. 813 00:42:00,366 --> 00:42:03,096 Good night. 64316

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