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Jeffrey: I did what I did not
for reasons of hate.
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I hated no one.
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I knew I was sick or evil
or both.
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I should have stayed with God.
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I tried and failed
and created a Holocaust.
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♪♪
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♪♪
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Hey, everyone.
I'm Hill Harper.
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Jeffrey Dahmer is one
of the most depraved
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and dangerous serial killers
in recent memory,
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not only because of the number
of young men he killed, 17,
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and what he actually did
to his victims,
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but because Jeffrey Dahmer
was able to hide in plain sight
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for years, committing murder
after murder after murder.
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He had everyone fooled --
judges, police, friends,
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even his own family.
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You see, by the spring of 1991,
12 young men had gone missing.
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No one had connected the dots,
not even the police.
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There was a serial killer
on the loose in Milwaukee,
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and no one knew.
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This is
"How It Really Happened."
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A woman in an apartment
building called police to say,
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"There's a young man
running in the street
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without any clothes on."
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Dr. Jentzen: Concerned neighbors
came around him
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and were offering
assistance to him.
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At that time, he appeared to be
confused and disoriented
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and basically
looked intoxicated.
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Casarez:
The neighbors are there.
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The police are there,
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and everybody's trying to figure
out what's going on,
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and then suddenly,
Dahmer arrives on the scene.
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Balcerzak: He stated that his
roommate had been drinking
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and had passed out
on the couch of the apartment,
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and that that's where
he had left him
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when he had gone
to a local tavern
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to obtain some beer
or cigarettes.
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Dr. Jentzen: Dahmer convinced
them that he and Konerak
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had a consensual
and intimate relationship
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and that he would take him
back to the apartment.
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"Konerak is drunk.
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Let me take him back up
to my apartment.
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Everything will be fine."
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Casarez:
What no one knew at the time
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was that Dahmer had
just met this kid.
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He offered him money to come
back to his apartment with him.
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This kid had been drugged
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and was trying
to escape his captor.
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Dr. Jentzen: Konerak, he was
in a comatose state,
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and then he revived,
left the apartment
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and was outside naked.
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Dahmer is coming back
literally from the liquor store
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with liquor and encounters
the police with his victim.
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Balcerzak:
He appeared to be calm.
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There was nothing to suggest
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that he was not as he was
presenting himself to be.
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Schwartz: So the officers go up
to the apartment,
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and they don't see anything
that gives them pause.
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They see Konerak's
clothes folded
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over the side of the couch.
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They see an apartment that's not
out of "Architectural Digest,"
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but it doesn't look like
something untoward
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had been happening there.
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He manipulated those officers
that night.
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Casarez: The police see
no reason to arrest Dahmer.
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They just say to him,
"Take care of this kid,"
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and then they leave.
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Immediately after the officers
left, Dahmer killed Konerak.
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They escort this boy
to his death,
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essentially handing him
over to Jeffrey Dahmer
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who proceeds to kill him
and dismember him.
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Reporter: Konerak Sinthasomphone
was just 14 years old,
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the youngest in a family
of Laotian refugees.
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He's the boy who was spotted
naked and bleeding,
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running from Jeffrey Dahmer.
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The investigation further
discloses
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that the police department
individuals who responded
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failed to conduct a basic proper
police investigation
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into the matter.
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If the police would have only
checked Jeffrey Dahmer's record,
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they would've found that
he's a registered sex offender
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who was on probation
for sexually assaulting a boy,
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and it's almost impossible
to imagine,
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but that victim was
the brother of Konerak.
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Reporter 2: One of Konerak's
older teenage brothers
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had been molested
by Dahmer three years ago.
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So the whole thing was
full of some very strange, like,
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what-are-the-chance
kind of coincidences.
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Casarez: What police didn't know
at this time --
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Jeffrey Dahmer was in the middle
of a killing spree.
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If the police had gone
into the next room,
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they would have found
a dead body.
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Reporter 2:
Even as police officers
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talked to Dahmer
in the living room,
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the body of his latest victim
lay just a room away.
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He was so quiet, so reserved.
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You wouldn't have believed
in a million years
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that he was a serial killer.
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Never would you believe it.
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Banfield:
Dahmer was a master manipulator,
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and he probably got that way
because he knew he had thoughts
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that were just
too dark to share,
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and he began to fantasize
about what it would be like
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to have sex with men
who were dead or unconscious.
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Dr. Dietz:
What Jeffrey Dahmer wanted
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was a man
who looked good to him,
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which basically meant nice face,
good biceps, good physique,
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who would accept him,
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not force him to do things
he didn't want to do,
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allow him to lay with them
all night long and not leave.
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Casarez: Jeffrey Dahmer had sick
fantasies of having sex
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with a dead
or unconscious lover,
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but in the earlier years,
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he really tried to find
alternatives to killing them.
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Dr. Dietz:
And the things he tried --
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he would scan obituaries
for young males who had died,
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and he tried to dig up
their graves,
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but the ground was frozen,
so that didn't work.
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Another strategy he tried
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was to steal a mannequin
from a department store
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by hiding out
until after closing hours.
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He wanted to have it there
with him as a substitute person.
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He tried every strategy
he could devise to find
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a substitute
for that voluntary partner
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who would lay there
and not leave.
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Eventually, none of those
strategies satisfied him,
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so he began
to target live victims.
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Dr. Dietz:
The next strategy he tried
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was to administer a sedative
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to men that
he found attractive.
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Dr. Jentzen: Before Dahmer went
out for an evening,
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he knew that he was going to be
trying to find a victim,
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and he would prepare
a drug concoction
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of benzodiazepines, valium.
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Meuler: He picked up victims
at such a variety of places,
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you know, adult bookstores,
the gay bars, on the streets.
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I mean, you -- you know,
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you have to have a little bit
of con man in you to do that.
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Schwartz: Dahmer would strike up
a conversation with these men.
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"How you doing?"
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He talked to them a little bit.
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What he was trying to find out
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is if this was something
who would be missed.
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If someone said, "I haven't
spoken with my family in years,"
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that was the kind of person
he was looking for.
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Dr. Jentzen: And when he brought
a victim back,
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he would offer
the individual the drink,
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and that would sedate them,
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and then he was able
to take control of them.
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McCann: And then do
what he wished with them,
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and they were completely
under his control.
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They couldn't resist.
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They couldn't say, "No, I don't
like this or don't want that,"
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so it was his desire
to dominate,
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to completely dominate.
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Casarez: This was Dahmer's M.O.
for years --
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picking men up
and drugging them,
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but in 1987, the M.O. changed.
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He lured a man
to his hotel room.
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Schwartz:
Dahmer met him in Milwaukee.
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He took him to
the Ambassador Hotel.
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They had sex.
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Dahmer says that he blacked out,
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and when he woke up
in the morning,
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he woke up next to
Steven Tuomi's dead body.
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Banfield: Later, Jeffrey Dahmer
talked about that night
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with Stone Phillips
on "Dateline NBC."
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He was hanging over
the side of the bed,
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and I have no memory
of beating him to death,
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but I must've,
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and that's when
it all started again.
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And once it started again,
you found it impossible to
stop.
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Right.
That -- that's when the --
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the obsession
went into full swing.
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After he got a taste of it,
that's when he went out
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and starting actively
looking for victims,
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one after the other.
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He was very, very calculating,
the way he picked out victims,
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the way he covered his tracks
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so that victims
couldn't be linked to him.
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You know, he thought that out.
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Casarez: This is a guy who'd
been living a double life
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since he was a kid,
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trying to be normal
on the outside
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but holding secrets
on the inside
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as he told NBC's "Dateline."
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Talking about it,
I don't think,
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would've made
that much difference
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because like I said, there were
things going on in my head
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that I would've
never opened up
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and talked about
with anybody.
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He had developed a fascination
fairly early
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with the idea of skeletons
and dissection.
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It's pretty frightening that
he was thinking that way
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way back then,
and the rest of us had no clue.
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King: Tonight, exclusive --
the parents of Jeffrey Dahmer.
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Their son was one of America's
most notorious serial killers.
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Now, in an exclusive interview,
his parents,
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Lionel and Shari Dahmer,
speak out on what went wrong
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to turn their handsome,
soft-spoken son into a monster.
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King:
Why are you coming on?
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I really want to tell parents
about what I think
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they should look for
in rearing their children.
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That could help
a lot of people?
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Yeah.
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And you support that,
Shari?
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Shari: Oh, absolutely,
anything that we could do
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to circumvent or prevent another
Jeff would be a blessing.
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Because it can't be easy.
It is not easy.
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It would be easier to forget
about it...
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Absolutely.
...if you can, right?
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But no one allows us
to forget about it.
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What was he like
as a teenager?
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He had
a small circle of friends
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who liked to play gags
and joke around a lot.
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Practical jokes?
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Yeah.
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Kukral: In high school,
Jeff Dahmer sort of became
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attached to my group of friends.
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We sort of adopted him,
you could say.
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We found him an interesting guy
because of his sense of humor.
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I remember him running down
the hall and yelling,
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"Tornado! Tornado!
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Tornado!
Get down on the floor!
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Everybody get down
on the floor!"
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And then just walking down
the hall calmly after that.
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We thought things like that
were really funny that he did.
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One of my best friends from
high school is John Backderf,
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and he wrote a book called
"My Friend Dahmer,"
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a graphic novel,
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and that book basically shows
our high school days
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at Revere High better
than anything else,
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better than anything
I can tell you.
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Casarez: What his high school
friends didn't know
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and what his family
didn't even know
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was that Jeffrey Dahmer
wasn't what he seemed to be.
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He was hiding something.
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He had developed a fascination
fairly early
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with the idea
of skeletons and dissection.
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Lionel: At the age of 12 to 14,
we found out
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that he had been collecting
dead animals, roadkill,
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riding around the rural roads
and collecting them in bags.
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He would take them home,
and he'd cut them up,
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and the colors fascinated him.
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The colors of the internal
organs of the dead animals
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got him all excited.
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Dr. Dietz: And he had
the additional problem
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that he was growing up in Ohio,
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discovering he was gay at a time
when this was very repressed
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and not something that he could
come out freely about.
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Banfield:
In the book "My Friend Dahmer,"
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it really lays out the struggles
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that Jeffrey Dahmer
had in high school,
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the struggles to fit in,
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the struggles
that he had fighting off
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those twisted fantasies,
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and he tried to explain
his bizarre behavior
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when he did an interview
with "Dateline NBC."
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I think it was around
age 14 or 15,
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I started to have --
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having obsessive
thoughts of --
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of...violence
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intermingled with sex.
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The rest of us had no clue
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that he was thinking about
killing someone
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or having sex with someone
or their body at that age.
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Well, what we learned
many years later
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was that Jeff Dahmer had
an obsession with a jogger
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that ran by his house.
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Casarez: What nobody knew at the
time, including the jogger,
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was that Jeffrey Dahmer
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was having fantasies
about abducting him.
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Dr. Dietz: He was planning
to hit the jogger
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over the head
with a heavy object,
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drag him into the bushes
and have his way with him.
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He had hidden in shrubbery,
hoping to attack him
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and prepared to attack him,
but he never got the nerve.
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That was pretty frightening to
realize that we were around him
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when his mind had
these visions going on in it.
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Jeffrey Dahmer knew that
his sexual urges were sick.
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They were twisted,
but he couldn't tell anybody.
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His solution was alcohol.
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Kukral: He was drinking in
the parking lot before school.
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He was drinking out of booze
in his briefcase
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that he carried around,
which was sort of weird.
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When Jeffrey was in his
senior year,
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his parents' marriage
was really falling apart,
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and his dad
ended up moving out.
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King:
How did Jeff take it?
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Jeff, I think, he had --
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he told me that --
that it disturbed him very much.
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Kukral: Senior year,
he drifted away from us.
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I think that his academic record
started to fall apart,
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and he stopped going
to a lot of classes
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the end of our junior year,
senior year.
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I think Jeffrey Dahmer
really lost it
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when his parents divorced,
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and his mother took off
with their younger son
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and moved somewhere else
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and left Jeffrey Dahmer
alone in the family home.
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Banfield: Later, Dahmer
explained it in his confession.
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He states that it was
at this time
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he started to have
strong feelings of being left
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all alone
and strong desires
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of not wanting to
have people leave him.
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That not-leaving-him was
an important issue to him.
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Velez-Mitchell: Being abandoned
in the family home
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while dad's gone and mother
leaves with the younger brother
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to start a new life --
that's the moment he broke.
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He snapped.
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The world became a dark
and awful place,
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and everybody was his enemy.
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Banfield:
Shortly after his graduation,
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Jeffrey Dahmer was driving
around and passed Stephen Hicks,
317
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and something told him
to turn back around, and he did.
318
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Stephen Hicks was on his way
to a rock concert that night,
319
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and Stephen Hicks never made it
to that rock concert.
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Dahmer took Stephen Hicks back
to his parents' empty place,
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and they were
drinking beers together,
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and that's when something
went horrifically wrong.
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There was an altercation
because Stephen wanted to leave.
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Jeff had made a pass at him,
and Stephen wanted to leave.
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Dr. Dietz:
Dahmer took a barbell
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and banged him over the head
with it,
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and this was his first encounter
with how much work it is
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to dispose of a human corpse.
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Reporter 3: Police say Hicks
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was a hitchhiker
picked up by Dahmer
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when he was just 18,
the victim killed in a bedroom,
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his body dismembered
in a tight crawl space.
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Banfield:
He killed Stephen Hicks.
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He cut him into pieces.
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He put him into garbage bags.
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This is where it all
could've ended.
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Dahmer was on the way
to the dump with Hicks' body...
338
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[ Siren wailing ]
339
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....and he's suddenly
pulled over by police.
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Murphy: You know, you stop him
for a violation.
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You know, he wasn't drunk,
so they let him go.
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Boyle: Incredible.
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Here, the first time
he kills a human being,
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and the cops pull him over,
and they say he wasn't nervous.
345
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"What were you doing?"
346
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"I'm taking garbage
to the dump."
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He was as cool as cool could be.
348
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That was a close call for Dahmer
349
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and a missed opportunity
for society.
350
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Casarez: Mike Kukral remembers
giving Dahmer a ride home
351
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about that time
and dropping him off
352
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right in the driveway
of his parents' empty home.
353
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Kukral:
What I didn't know at that time,
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there would be
no way to know it,
355
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was that when I gave Jeff Dahmer
a ride home that night,
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there was probably a body
in his house,
357
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the body of Stephen Hicks
that he had killed.
358
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I never thought that would be
the last time I'd see him.
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Banfield: Just a couple of weeks
after high school,
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Jeffrey Dahmer had already
killed his first victim.
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He was pretty aimless, didn't
know what he wanted to do,
362
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and it was actually his dad that
pushed him to go to college.
363
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Kukral: He did go to Ohio State
for one semester or one quarter
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in the fall that fall,
and all he did was drink
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and not go to classes,
and that was the end of that.
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Lionel: He came back home,
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and I then proceeded
to take him to the Army.
368
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He served, and he came back
from boot camp
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looking like just a wonderful
physical specimen.
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We were encouraged.
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Reporter 4: Less than three
years after joining the Army,
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Dahmer was kicked out
for excessive drinking.
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What happens
after the Army?
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Lionel:
He kept getting into trouble.
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Eventually, it got so bad
that we sent him
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to his grandmother's house...
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To your parents?
...in Wisconsin.
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McCann: That's when he came
under grandmother's influence
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and kind of straightened
out his lifestyle.
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She had him going to church,
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and he abstained from many
of these activities.
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Lionel:
For a while, it went very well.
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My mother cooked for him,
and he finally found a job
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at a chocolate company,
385
00:20:00,016 --> 00:20:03,276
but then things
started to occur.
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His drinking accelerated,
and the killing accelerated.
387
00:20:07,283 --> 00:20:11,033
It was only a matter of time
before Dahmer would trip up.
388
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Jeffrey Dahmer had already
killed five young men
389
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by the time his grandmother
threw him out in 1990.
390
00:20:21,250 --> 00:20:22,400
He moved into his own apartment
391
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in a seedy neighborhood
of Milwaukee,
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and that's when things really
started to spin out of control.
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No longer accountable to anyone,
394
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Dahmer was now free to give
into his most twisted,
395
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sadistic fantasies, like some
horror movie come to life.
396
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♪♪
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Dahmer was one of the few
Caucasian people
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that lived
in that neighborhood,
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00:20:48,266 --> 00:20:51,216
and he moved into
an apartment building
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where it was almost
all African Americans.
401
00:20:55,016 --> 00:20:59,196
And when he moved
into apartment 213,
402
00:20:59,233 --> 00:21:04,103
nobody knew what was
happening behind that door.
403
00:21:06,266 --> 00:21:09,076
Velez-Mitchell: Jeffrey Dahmer's
crimes were escalating.
404
00:21:09,116 --> 00:21:13,396
His dismemberment rituals were
getting more and more grotesque
405
00:21:13,433 --> 00:21:15,273
if that's even possible.
406
00:21:17,316 --> 00:21:20,276
Dr. Dietz:
He'd lay down plastic
407
00:21:20,316 --> 00:21:24,066
and was preparing
to dismember the body,
408
00:21:24,100 --> 00:21:27,100
but he hated doing so,
409
00:21:27,133 --> 00:21:29,223
so much that he had to get drunk
410
00:21:29,250 --> 00:21:32,000
to overcome
his aversion to it.
411
00:21:34,100 --> 00:21:37,100
Banfield: Dahmer hated disposing
of his victims,
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and he came up with an idea
that was more horrific
413
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than anything
he had already done.
414
00:21:44,150 --> 00:21:49,070
It was a way to keep
his would-be victims alive.
415
00:21:49,100 --> 00:21:51,320
My brother was Errol Lindsey.
416
00:21:51,350 --> 00:21:53,430
He was 19 years old.
417
00:21:53,466 --> 00:21:57,276
He left home,
going to get a key made,
418
00:21:57,316 --> 00:22:00,426
and he just never came back.
419
00:22:00,466 --> 00:22:03,146
He never came back.
420
00:22:03,183 --> 00:22:06,073
Errol Lindsey was Dahmer's
first experiment.
421
00:22:06,100 --> 00:22:11,270
Errol was just like the normal
kid trying to hustle up,
422
00:22:11,300 --> 00:22:14,370
you know, on money and however
he could get it, you know?
423
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Dr. Dietz:
He met this individual
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approximately March of '91
425
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on the corner
of 27th and Kilbourn.
426
00:22:23,033 --> 00:22:27,283
He offered this individual money
for posing and to view videos.
427
00:22:27,316 --> 00:22:31,296
Errol was not gay, you know,
and if he was gay, I --
428
00:22:31,333 --> 00:22:33,173
you know,
he was still my brother,
429
00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:35,420
and I still would love him,
but he wasn't gay.
430
00:22:35,450 --> 00:22:39,480
I don't know what it took
to get him to his house.
431
00:22:41,050 --> 00:22:46,180
What Jeffrey did to Errol
Lindsey was so beyond the pale,
432
00:22:46,216 --> 00:22:49,016
I mean, you really can't
write this stuff.
433
00:22:49,050 --> 00:22:54,420
He started drilling holes in the
skulls of people who are alive!
434
00:22:57,033 --> 00:22:59,303
Dahmer talked about this period
in an interview
435
00:22:59,333 --> 00:23:01,283
with "Inside Edition."
436
00:23:01,316 --> 00:23:06,276
I tried to keep the person alive
437
00:23:06,316 --> 00:23:09,346
by inducing
a zombielike state...
438
00:23:13,283 --> 00:23:18,283
...by injecting, first,
439
00:23:18,316 --> 00:23:21,076
a dilute acid solution
into their brain
440
00:23:21,116 --> 00:23:23,196
or hot water.
441
00:23:25,283 --> 00:23:29,403
Schwartz: In his mind, he was
trying to create
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a kind of a zombie,
someone in a zombie state.
443
00:23:32,416 --> 00:23:36,226
He wanted these people
to stay with him.
444
00:23:36,266 --> 00:23:38,226
He didn't want them to leave,
445
00:23:38,266 --> 00:23:42,196
and he didn't really
want them to die.
446
00:23:45,100 --> 00:23:47,080
Harris:
My brother was not an angel.
447
00:23:47,116 --> 00:23:51,166
I know that, but he didn't
deserve to die
448
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:54,050
the way that he did.
449
00:23:54,083 --> 00:23:56,103
Schwartz:
After Errol Lindsey was killed,
450
00:23:56,133 --> 00:23:57,423
Dahmer killed six more people
451
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in the span
of about three months.
452
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Casarez: Dahmer talked about the
end of his killing spree
453
00:24:02,216 --> 00:24:05,296
on an interview
with "Dateline NBC."
454
00:24:05,333 --> 00:24:08,103
The killing was just
a means to an end.
455
00:24:08,133 --> 00:24:11,033
That was the least
satisfactory part.
456
00:24:11,066 --> 00:24:12,396
I didn't enjoy doing that.
Stone: Mm-hmm.
457
00:24:12,433 --> 00:24:18,473
That's why I tried to create
living zombies
458
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with the muriatic acid
and the -- and the drill.
459
00:24:23,333 --> 00:24:25,183
Dr. Dietz:
Late in his killing spree,
460
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he was in an uncontrolled
drinking binge
461
00:24:28,316 --> 00:24:33,126
that made him fall behind in his
schedule of disposing of bodies.
462
00:24:33,166 --> 00:24:36,146
Meuler: He would often
call in sick that Monday
463
00:24:36,183 --> 00:24:39,473
because he would be working
on disposing of the bodies,
464
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,370
and -- and if you looked
at the early timeline,
465
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he always spaced it out.
466
00:24:45,033 --> 00:24:46,273
He would never bring
another victim in
467
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until other victim had been
disposed of, if you will.
468
00:24:51,016 --> 00:24:54,346
His drinking accelerated,
and the killing accelerated.
469
00:24:54,383 --> 00:24:58,153
It was only a matter of time
before Dahmer would trip up.
470
00:24:58,183 --> 00:25:00,003
Meuler:
He just became very desperate,
471
00:25:00,033 --> 00:25:05,053
and there was less planning
as it went on.
472
00:25:06,283 --> 00:25:10,133
After killing 17 victims
over 13 years,
473
00:25:10,166 --> 00:25:14,116
Jeffrey Dahmer met a guy
named Tracy Edwards.
474
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McCann:
Dahmer had picked him up,
475
00:25:20,316 --> 00:25:22,346
persuaded him to come
to his home.
476
00:25:22,383 --> 00:25:24,003
Edwards, deciding
he was in danger,
477
00:25:24,033 --> 00:25:25,023
wanted to get out of there.
478
00:25:25,050 --> 00:25:27,170
Dahmer had gotten a handcuff on.
479
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Velez-Mitchell: He handcuffed
the guy with one cuff,
480
00:25:30,066 --> 00:25:32,996
and then there was sort of
this elaborate negotiation
481
00:25:33,033 --> 00:25:35,453
where the guy said he had
to go to the bathroom.
482
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Tracy Edwards would've
been number 18.
483
00:25:41,183 --> 00:25:43,083
Edwards: I knew something was
about to happen,
484
00:25:43,116 --> 00:25:46,046
so I suggested
that I go to the bathroom.
485
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I just seized the opportunity.
486
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I said, "Well, at least
I'm gonna die trying.
487
00:25:49,366 --> 00:25:51,366
I'm not just gonna sit here,"
you know?
488
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:52,430
Man: What'd you do, son?
489
00:25:52,466 --> 00:25:55,296
I hit him, and I ran
towards the door,
490
00:25:55,333 --> 00:25:58,233
and he, like, was right there,
tried to grab me,
491
00:25:58,266 --> 00:25:59,476
get me back in there.
492
00:26:00,016 --> 00:26:02,026
Velez-Mitchell: He races
to the cops, and he says,
493
00:26:02,066 --> 00:26:04,266
"Get this handcuff off me!"
494
00:26:04,300 --> 00:26:06,480
Edwards: I told the policeman
that this freak,
495
00:26:07,016 --> 00:26:09,296
this crazy guy,
was trying to hurt me.
496
00:26:09,333 --> 00:26:11,333
The key wouldn't fit,
so they got --
497
00:26:11,366 --> 00:26:13,076
so they went back
to Dahmer's apartment
498
00:26:13,116 --> 00:26:15,416
to get the key to let --
get the handcuff off.
499
00:26:15,450 --> 00:26:18,050
On the way -- on the way,
Edwards told them,
500
00:26:18,083 --> 00:26:19,223
"By the way,
he wouldn't let me look
501
00:26:19,250 --> 00:26:22,420
in the refrigerator
for some reason."
502
00:26:22,450 --> 00:26:25,230
Dahmer was there.
He had been -- he was drunk.
503
00:26:25,266 --> 00:26:27,176
He opened the door.
He says, "Come on in."
504
00:26:27,216 --> 00:26:29,296
Dahmer lets them in,
unlocked this thing,
505
00:26:29,333 --> 00:26:32,003
and the cop walks over
and looks in the refrigerator,
506
00:26:32,033 --> 00:26:33,433
and there's
a floating flesh skull.
507
00:26:40,066 --> 00:26:44,166
Banfield: When police showed up
at Jeffrey Dahmer's apartment
508
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:47,320
to check out
Tracy Edwards' story,
509
00:26:47,350 --> 00:26:52,250
they walked into
a human slaughterhouse.
510
00:26:52,283 --> 00:26:56,203
Dr. Dietz: There were whole
heads in the refrigerator,
511
00:26:56,233 --> 00:27:01,183
and there were fillets
of biceps in the freezer.
512
00:27:02,333 --> 00:27:04,133
It was kind of clear
the jig was up
513
00:27:04,166 --> 00:27:07,446
when you're found with
so much in your apartment,
514
00:27:07,483 --> 00:27:10,073
and there's really
no way out.
515
00:27:10,100 --> 00:27:16,150
♪♪
516
00:27:16,183 --> 00:27:18,423
Dr. Jentzen:
There was a large, silver,
517
00:27:18,450 --> 00:27:20,280
stainless-steel cooking pot,
518
00:27:20,316 --> 00:27:23,076
and in the bottom
of that cooking pot
519
00:27:23,116 --> 00:27:25,426
were two severed hands.
520
00:27:25,466 --> 00:27:30,476
There were binders
of Polaroid photographs
521
00:27:31,016 --> 00:27:34,096
that basically
depicted individuals
522
00:27:34,133 --> 00:27:37,053
before and after death.
523
00:27:37,083 --> 00:27:40,423
Bass:
The pictures were horrific.
524
00:27:40,450 --> 00:27:45,250
It was like someone setting
a stage with mannequins,
525
00:27:45,283 --> 00:27:46,373
but these aren't mannequins.
526
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,330
These are human beings.
527
00:27:48,366 --> 00:27:52,016
Schwartz: Imagine these police
officers standing there
528
00:27:52,050 --> 00:27:53,400
and trying to take this in,
529
00:27:53,433 --> 00:27:56,373
trying to process
what was going on.
530
00:27:56,400 --> 00:28:00,030
There was no crime scene
ever like this
531
00:28:00,066 --> 00:28:02,346
for the people
that responded that night.
532
00:28:02,383 --> 00:28:07,103
The types of revulsion
that one feels when you --
533
00:28:07,133 --> 00:28:09,183
when you witness something
like this firsthand
534
00:28:09,216 --> 00:28:11,026
cannot be described.
535
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:17,000
Schwartz: Back in 1991, you show
up at a crime scene.
536
00:28:17,033 --> 00:28:18,273
People have the boom boxes out.
537
00:28:18,300 --> 00:28:20,030
They're yelling.
538
00:28:20,066 --> 00:28:24,166
This was eerie in how quiet
it was,
539
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:29,380
especially when the barrels
started coming down the stairs.
540
00:28:33,133 --> 00:28:35,133
Dr. Jentzen: In the corner
541
00:28:35,166 --> 00:28:38,346
was this large
50-gallon plastic container,
542
00:28:38,383 --> 00:28:42,433
and it turned out that there
were four intact skeletons
543
00:28:42,466 --> 00:28:45,376
in that container,
and at that time,
544
00:28:45,416 --> 00:28:50,996
we made the decision that we
would contact a Hazmat unit
545
00:28:51,033 --> 00:28:54,453
to transport that container.
546
00:28:54,483 --> 00:28:58,033
The actual crime-scene
investigation
547
00:28:58,066 --> 00:29:01,066
was more like dismantling
a museum
548
00:29:01,100 --> 00:29:04,000
rather than
an actual crime scene.
549
00:29:07,050 --> 00:29:09,100
Jackson: So the police arrest
Jeffrey Dahmer
550
00:29:09,133 --> 00:29:10,233
just before midnight,
551
00:29:10,266 --> 00:29:13,116
and by 1:30, he's at
the Milwaukee police department,
552
00:29:13,150 --> 00:29:18,070
talking and talking and talking
like he had never talked before.
553
00:29:18,100 --> 00:29:20,420
Boyle: I think he wanted to talk
to us so much
554
00:29:20,450 --> 00:29:23,480
was because he'd never
had someone to sit down
555
00:29:24,016 --> 00:29:27,046
and actually relate to,
and during that questioning,
556
00:29:27,083 --> 00:29:30,133
we caught a semblance
of who was killed,
557
00:29:30,166 --> 00:29:35,076
what time and when
and the order they were killed.
558
00:29:35,116 --> 00:29:36,316
Jackson:
Over the next six weeks,
559
00:29:36,350 --> 00:29:41,450
Jeffrey Dahmer spent 166 hours
confessing in graphic detail
560
00:29:41,483 --> 00:29:44,123
to all the murders
he'd ever committed
561
00:29:44,150 --> 00:29:47,070
and all the sick things
he'd ever engaged in,
562
00:29:47,100 --> 00:29:49,300
including cannibalism.
563
00:29:49,333 --> 00:29:52,283
Dr. Dietz: He got the nickname
"The Milwaukee Cannibal,"
564
00:29:52,316 --> 00:29:57,466
but that was a small part
of his M.O.
565
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,370
and of his desires
566
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:03,300
and was a late arriving part
567
00:30:03,333 --> 00:30:06,173
and really sprang
from his thought
568
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:13,100
that it was such a waste to have
brief time with these men
569
00:30:13,133 --> 00:30:15,423
and then for them to disappear,
570
00:30:15,450 --> 00:30:19,220
and the idea of eating
a part of them
571
00:30:19,250 --> 00:30:24,070
was the idea of incorporating
a part of them into himself.
572
00:30:24,100 --> 00:30:27,120
And we had secretaries that were
typing our reports
573
00:30:27,150 --> 00:30:29,100
that couldn't type them.
574
00:30:29,133 --> 00:30:31,373
They couldn't take it,
so they had to see
575
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:33,380
a psychiatrist about it.
576
00:30:33,416 --> 00:30:35,446
Jeffrey Dahmer, the man
officially charged
577
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:37,200
in four murderers in Milwaukee
578
00:30:37,233 --> 00:30:39,173
but at the center
of nearly a dozen others,
579
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:43,270
confessed to more
killings Monday.
580
00:30:43,300 --> 00:30:50,000
And by July 24th, we had a
full confession for 17 murders.
581
00:30:50,033 --> 00:30:55,283
♪♪
582
00:30:55,316 --> 00:30:59,126
Ladies and gentlemen
of the jury,
583
00:30:59,166 --> 00:31:02,326
we now begin an odyssey.
584
00:31:02,366 --> 00:31:06,216
The details are grisly
and graphic and sickening.
585
00:31:06,250 --> 00:31:10,230
Jeffrey Dahmer's odyssey of sex,
murder and cannibalism
586
00:31:10,266 --> 00:31:14,196
is unfolding
in an Milwaukee courtroom.
587
00:31:14,233 --> 00:31:16,023
McCann: In this case, his plea
588
00:31:16,050 --> 00:31:18,080
was not guilty
by reason of insanity,
589
00:31:18,116 --> 00:31:21,266
so the only issue was,
"Was he sane when he did it?"
590
00:31:21,300 --> 00:31:24,130
Jackson: The foundation
of an insanity defense is,
591
00:31:24,166 --> 00:31:26,216
does the defendant know
right from wrong?
592
00:31:26,250 --> 00:31:27,330
And clearly, in this case,
593
00:31:27,366 --> 00:31:30,026
Jeffrey Dahmer did know
right from wrong because,
594
00:31:30,066 --> 00:31:32,116
"A," he elaborately
planned these crimes,
595
00:31:32,150 --> 00:31:35,220
and, "B," he elaborately
covered them up.
596
00:31:35,250 --> 00:31:41,330
Cold-blooded planning
for sexual satisfaction.
597
00:31:41,366 --> 00:31:44,166
"Your life for my
sexual satisfaction."
598
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:47,430
I pointed out how carefully
everything had been planned.
599
00:31:47,466 --> 00:31:49,426
He was not a man out of control.
600
00:31:49,466 --> 00:31:52,366
The manifestations
of homicidal maniac,
601
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:54,430
he did not show.
602
00:31:54,466 --> 00:31:59,266
Boyle: I tried to persuade them
that somewhere along the line,
603
00:31:59,300 --> 00:32:04,480
he got to the point where he was
unable to control his conduct.
604
00:32:05,016 --> 00:32:11,146
He was a runaway train
on a track of madness.
605
00:32:11,183 --> 00:32:13,483
There was a locomotive engineer
running the train.
606
00:32:14,016 --> 00:32:18,296
It wasn't out of control,
and the engineer was Dahmer.
607
00:32:18,333 --> 00:32:22,253
To show that Jeffrey Dahmer was
mentally ill and out of control,
608
00:32:22,283 --> 00:32:27,133
his defense attorney puts
Tracy Edwards on the stand.
609
00:32:27,166 --> 00:32:29,196
Reporter 5: Tracy Edwards lived
to tell about it,
610
00:32:29,233 --> 00:32:31,353
and tell he did in court Friday,
611
00:32:31,383 --> 00:32:34,003
describing how
Jeffrey Dahmer underwent
612
00:32:34,033 --> 00:32:36,203
an almost
physical transformation
613
00:32:36,233 --> 00:32:39,073
from nice guy
to would-be killer.
614
00:32:39,100 --> 00:32:41,080
Man: Now, when you got
to his apartment,
615
00:32:41,116 --> 00:32:42,276
how was he acting?
616
00:32:42,316 --> 00:32:46,026
Just like a normal everyday
person, you know, friendly.
617
00:32:46,066 --> 00:32:48,016
This guy is so nice,
and all of a sudden, you know,
618
00:32:48,050 --> 00:32:51,450
it's like, he's pulling knives
and handcuffs and all on me.
619
00:32:54,300 --> 00:32:57,070
Where was the knife
pointed?
620
00:32:57,100 --> 00:32:58,330
When I was on the floor,
he had it pointed
621
00:32:58,366 --> 00:33:01,346
at my groin area at that time.
622
00:33:01,383 --> 00:33:03,353
Then he was telling -- he didn't
want people to leave him
623
00:33:03,383 --> 00:33:05,203
or abandon him.
624
00:33:08,350 --> 00:33:11,170
His face structure
seemed different.
625
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:12,430
You know, his body structure,
626
00:33:12,466 --> 00:33:15,166
it's like it wasn't him
anymore, you know?
627
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:18,100
It's like it was a totally
different guy there.
628
00:33:18,133 --> 00:33:19,203
He kind of laid across me,
629
00:33:19,233 --> 00:33:21,433
put his head across my chest
at that point.
630
00:33:21,466 --> 00:33:23,396
What was he doing
with his head?
631
00:33:23,433 --> 00:33:26,233
Like he was listening to
my heart because at a point,
632
00:33:26,266 --> 00:33:28,446
he told me he was gonna eat
my heart at that point.
633
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:34,420
I just sat stunned
and motionless
634
00:33:34,450 --> 00:33:37,170
listening to all these things,
but inside,
635
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:41,100
I was practically
losing my cookies.
636
00:33:43,083 --> 00:33:45,353
Banfield: The whole trial took
less than three weeks,
637
00:33:45,383 --> 00:33:46,433
and as is customary,
638
00:33:46,466 --> 00:33:49,046
he got a chance
to address his victims,
639
00:33:49,083 --> 00:33:51,253
and his victims' family members
640
00:33:51,283 --> 00:33:55,123
got a chance to let him know
how they felt, too.
641
00:33:55,150 --> 00:33:57,120
Jeffrey, I hate you.
642
00:33:57,150 --> 00:33:59,470
[Bleep] [Bleep]
I hate you!
643
00:34:04,366 --> 00:34:09,146
♪♪
644
00:34:09,183 --> 00:34:12,423
"In regard to the death
of Richard Guerrero,
645
00:34:12,450 --> 00:34:15,320
did the defendant,
Jeffrey L. Dahmer,
646
00:34:15,350 --> 00:34:18,000
have a mental disease?"
647
00:34:18,033 --> 00:34:20,003
The families were
very emotional.
648
00:34:20,033 --> 00:34:24,233
This was three weeks of hearing
the most awful information
649
00:34:24,266 --> 00:34:26,396
about how your loved one died
650
00:34:26,433 --> 00:34:30,483
that most of us
can't even imagine it,
651
00:34:31,016 --> 00:34:34,126
and now, the end is coming.
652
00:34:34,166 --> 00:34:36,316
Judge Gram, Jr.: "Did the
defendant, Jeffrey L. Dahmer,
653
00:34:36,350 --> 00:34:38,250
have a mental disease?
654
00:34:38,283 --> 00:34:41,253
Answer -- no."
655
00:34:44,016 --> 00:34:45,276
Jeffrey Dahmer's 3-week
sanity trial
656
00:34:45,316 --> 00:34:47,316
came to an end this afternoon.
657
00:34:47,350 --> 00:34:49,380
Most of the jurors rejected
the defense claim
658
00:34:49,416 --> 00:34:52,096
that Dahmer was a sick man.
659
00:34:55,050 --> 00:34:57,250
Judge Gram, Jr.:
"In regard to the death
660
00:34:57,283 --> 00:34:58,473
of James E. Doxtator..."
661
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:00,430
Schwartz: When the judge was
reading the decision
662
00:35:00,466 --> 00:35:02,146
by the jury,
663
00:35:02,183 --> 00:35:08,133
he went through every victim's
name and then said the decision.
664
00:35:08,166 --> 00:35:11,296
Judge Gram, Jr.: "In regard to
the death of Anthony Sears..."
665
00:35:11,333 --> 00:35:14,153
Schwartz:
The families would just weep.
666
00:35:14,183 --> 00:35:15,353
Harris: I was there.
667
00:35:15,383 --> 00:35:18,153
I was sitting in with the rest
of the families,
668
00:35:18,183 --> 00:35:21,083
and I think we all were
in shock that day.
669
00:35:21,116 --> 00:35:26,126
♪♪
670
00:35:26,166 --> 00:35:28,326
And then came
the victim impact statements.
671
00:35:30,133 --> 00:35:33,103
You took my 17-year-old son
away from me.
672
00:35:33,133 --> 00:35:36,123
I'll never get a chance
to tell him that I loved him,
673
00:35:36,150 --> 00:35:39,050
and for that,
I can never forgive you.
674
00:35:39,083 --> 00:35:41,123
I hope you --
675
00:35:41,150 --> 00:35:44,120
I hope you can deal
with what you've done.
676
00:35:44,150 --> 00:35:46,170
Schwartz: Dahmer didn't look
at the people.
677
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:48,330
He looked straight ahead
the whole time.
678
00:35:48,366 --> 00:35:49,466
I'm mad.
679
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,430
This is how you act
when you are out of control!
680
00:35:52,466 --> 00:35:55,226
For the most part,
the family members
681
00:35:55,266 --> 00:35:57,366
who gave their victims'
impact statements
682
00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,080
maintained their composure,
683
00:35:59,116 --> 00:36:04,346
but then one of the sisters
of Errol Lindsey let loose.
684
00:36:04,383 --> 00:36:06,373
I don't want to ever see
my mother have to go
685
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,330
through this again,
never, Jeffrey.
686
00:36:09,366 --> 00:36:11,426
Jeffrey!
I hate you!
687
00:36:11,466 --> 00:36:13,366
This is out of control!
688
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:16,000
Don't [bleep] with me, Jeffrey!
I'll kill --
689
00:36:16,033 --> 00:36:17,203
Harris: My sister,
690
00:36:17,233 --> 00:36:20,303
I guess she just wanted
to let him know how she felt,
691
00:36:20,333 --> 00:36:24,483
you know, to see the hurt
on my mom's face every day,
692
00:36:25,016 --> 00:36:27,396
and, I don't know,
she just -- she lost it.
693
00:36:27,433 --> 00:36:29,023
She just lost it.
694
00:36:29,050 --> 00:36:30,370
You don't have to...
695
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:32,180
Jackson: So after the families
696
00:36:32,216 --> 00:36:35,146
gave their gut-wrenching
victim impact statements,
697
00:36:35,183 --> 00:36:37,333
Jeffrey Dahmer
addressed the court.
698
00:36:37,366 --> 00:36:40,376
I know society will never
be able to forgive me.
699
00:36:40,416 --> 00:36:42,146
I know the families
of the victims
700
00:36:42,183 --> 00:36:45,303
will never be able to forgive me
for what I have done.
701
00:36:45,333 --> 00:36:47,103
I have seen their tears,
702
00:36:47,133 --> 00:36:48,453
and if I could
give my life right now
703
00:36:48,483 --> 00:36:51,423
to bring their loved ones back,
I would do it.
704
00:36:51,450 --> 00:36:53,220
I am so very sorry.
705
00:36:53,250 --> 00:36:58,030
He was just a person who had
descended into another world
706
00:36:58,066 --> 00:37:00,166
and had no emotion left
707
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:03,000
and no empathy or sympathy
for anyone else.
708
00:37:03,033 --> 00:37:05,023
He had gone through a lot
of big changes
709
00:37:05,050 --> 00:37:09,150
and was just far off
the deep end.
710
00:37:09,183 --> 00:37:11,273
I know my time in prison
will be terrible,
711
00:37:11,300 --> 00:37:14,330
but I deserve whatever I get
because of what I have done.
712
00:37:14,366 --> 00:37:16,246
I didn't ever want freedom.
713
00:37:16,283 --> 00:37:20,333
Frankly, I wanted death
for myself.
714
00:37:20,366 --> 00:37:23,246
Jeffrey Dahmer stood up today
in Milwaukee county court
715
00:37:23,283 --> 00:37:26,003
and asked for the maximum,
and he got it --
716
00:37:26,033 --> 00:37:33,053
15 consecutive life sentences,
no parole for 936 years.
717
00:37:33,083 --> 00:37:35,433
Schwartz:
Dahmer went to prison in '91.
718
00:37:35,466 --> 00:37:38,116
He went to the Columbia
Correctional Institution
719
00:37:38,150 --> 00:37:40,020
in Portage, Wisconsin.
720
00:37:40,050 --> 00:37:42,000
It's a maximum-security prison.
721
00:37:42,033 --> 00:37:44,053
Casarez:
In prison, Dahmer found God.
722
00:37:44,083 --> 00:37:45,473
He even got baptized.
723
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:49,370
No one really heard about him
for nearly three years,
724
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:53,230
but that all changed
one day in 1994.
725
00:37:56,350 --> 00:38:00,050
Jeffrey Dahmer was himself
attacked and killed this morning
726
00:38:00,083 --> 00:38:04,273
as he and another inmate
were cleaning a prison toilet.
727
00:38:04,300 --> 00:38:07,480
Schwartz: Dahmer was arguably
the most high-risk prisoner
728
00:38:08,016 --> 00:38:09,346
at the institution,
729
00:38:09,383 --> 00:38:12,423
and another inmate,
Jesse Anderson,
730
00:38:12,450 --> 00:38:14,220
were together
cleaning a bathroom.
731
00:38:14,250 --> 00:38:16,320
Christopher Scarver,
who was an inmate
732
00:38:16,350 --> 00:38:22,170
who was there for murder,
grabbed a barbell from the gym,
733
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:26,050
went into the bathroom
and beat both Jeffrey Dahmer
734
00:38:26,083 --> 00:38:28,273
and Jesse Anderson to death.
735
00:38:28,300 --> 00:38:32,230
Preliminary findings
of the pathologist were
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that Mr. Dahmer died as a result
of blunt-force injury of head.
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Jeffrey Dahmer
was beaten so badly
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that not even the people
treating him
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knew who he was until after
he was pronounced dead.
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Casarez:
Reactions to Dahmer's death
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were what you would expect.
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00:38:45,450 --> 00:38:48,170
Of course, families
of his victims
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were relieved
that the nightmare was over.
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00:38:51,050 --> 00:38:52,220
It shows today that he paid
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00:38:52,250 --> 00:38:55,080
for what he had did
to these childrens out here.
746
00:38:55,116 --> 00:38:56,296
I don't feel anything.
747
00:38:56,333 --> 00:38:59,253
I'm numb right now.
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00:38:59,283 --> 00:39:03,123
Harris: I looked at him with
a lot of hate in my heart.
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I really hated him.
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00:39:04,216 --> 00:39:06,116
I hated that man.
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00:39:06,150 --> 00:39:08,300
I hated him for what he did
to our family.
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00:39:08,333 --> 00:39:11,483
My family has never been
the same behind that,
753
00:39:12,016 --> 00:39:14,016
never been the same.
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00:39:16,283 --> 00:39:22,003
In closing, I just want to say
that I hope God has forgiven me.
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00:39:22,033 --> 00:39:25,073
I know society will never
be able to forgive me.
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00:39:25,100 --> 00:39:27,420
This was a case to tell
the world
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00:39:27,450 --> 00:39:30,270
that I did what I did
not for reasons of hate.
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00:39:30,300 --> 00:39:32,220
I hated no one.
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00:39:32,250 --> 00:39:35,180
I knew I was sick or evil
or both.
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00:39:37,250 --> 00:39:38,370
Jeffrey Dahmer's
defense attorney
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00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:41,420
hoped his client
would be found insane.
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00:39:41,450 --> 00:39:43,420
That would've landed him
in a psychiatric hospital,
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00:39:43,450 --> 00:39:46,480
where doctors could've studied
his urge to kill.
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00:39:47,016 --> 00:39:49,096
No one ever got to
study Dahmer's brain.
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00:39:49,133 --> 00:39:51,003
A judge ruled against preserving
it after his death,
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00:39:51,033 --> 00:39:53,483
and it was
ultimately destroyed.
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00:39:54,016 --> 00:39:57,016
We'll never know what drove
Jeffrey Dahmer to kill,
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00:39:57,050 --> 00:39:59,070
but even if we did,
it would've been too late
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00:39:59,100 --> 00:40:03,200
for 17 families
who lost their loved ones.
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I'm Hill Harper.
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We'll see you next time
on "How It Really Happened."
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