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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:08,230 Jeffrey: I did what I did not for reasons of hate. 2 00:00:08,266 --> 00:00:10,226 I hated no one. 3 00:00:10,266 --> 00:00:13,196 I knew I was sick or evil or both. 4 00:00:13,233 --> 00:00:15,083 I should have stayed with God. 5 00:00:15,116 --> 00:00:18,076 I tried and failed and created a Holocaust. 6 00:00:18,116 --> 00:00:25,316 ♪♪ 7 00:00:25,350 --> 00:00:33,030 ♪♪ 8 00:00:33,066 --> 00:00:35,046 Hey, everyone. I'm Hill Harper. 9 00:00:35,083 --> 00:00:37,033 Jeffrey Dahmer is one of the most depraved 10 00:00:37,066 --> 00:00:40,026 and dangerous serial killers in recent memory, 11 00:00:40,066 --> 00:00:42,446 not only because of the number of young men he killed, 17, 12 00:00:42,483 --> 00:00:44,483 and what he actually did to his victims, 13 00:00:45,016 --> 00:00:47,396 but because Jeffrey Dahmer was able to hide in plain sight 14 00:00:47,433 --> 00:00:51,353 for years, committing murder after murder after murder. 15 00:00:51,383 --> 00:00:54,183 He had everyone fooled -- judges, police, friends, 16 00:00:54,216 --> 00:00:55,426 even his own family. 17 00:00:55,466 --> 00:00:58,426 You see, by the spring of 1991, 12 young men had gone missing. 18 00:00:58,466 --> 00:01:02,076 No one had connected the dots, not even the police. 19 00:01:02,116 --> 00:01:05,026 There was a serial killer on the loose in Milwaukee, 20 00:01:05,066 --> 00:01:07,066 and no one knew. 21 00:01:07,100 --> 00:01:10,070 This is "How It Really Happened." 22 00:01:10,100 --> 00:01:15,070 ♪♪ 23 00:01:27,116 --> 00:01:33,246 A woman in an apartment building called police to say, 24 00:01:33,283 --> 00:01:35,223 "There's a young man running in the street 25 00:01:35,250 --> 00:01:36,450 without any clothes on." 26 00:01:36,483 --> 00:01:39,253 Dr. Jentzen: Concerned neighbors came around him 27 00:01:39,283 --> 00:01:42,433 and were offering assistance to him. 28 00:01:42,466 --> 00:01:47,026 At that time, he appeared to be confused and disoriented 29 00:01:47,066 --> 00:01:49,996 and basically looked intoxicated. 30 00:01:58,450 --> 00:02:00,180 Casarez: The neighbors are there. 31 00:02:00,216 --> 00:02:01,396 The police are there, 32 00:02:01,433 --> 00:02:05,153 and everybody's trying to figure out what's going on, 33 00:02:05,183 --> 00:02:08,233 and then suddenly, Dahmer arrives on the scene. 34 00:02:08,266 --> 00:02:12,116 Balcerzak: He stated that his roommate had been drinking 35 00:02:12,150 --> 00:02:16,350 and had passed out on the couch of the apartment, 36 00:02:16,383 --> 00:02:18,153 and that that's where he had left him 37 00:02:18,183 --> 00:02:23,123 when he had gone to a local tavern 38 00:02:23,150 --> 00:02:26,120 to obtain some beer or cigarettes. 39 00:02:26,150 --> 00:02:30,270 Dr. Jentzen: Dahmer convinced them that he and Konerak 40 00:02:30,300 --> 00:02:33,220 had a consensual and intimate relationship 41 00:02:33,250 --> 00:02:36,480 and that he would take him back to the apartment. 42 00:02:37,016 --> 00:02:39,276 "Konerak is drunk. 43 00:02:39,316 --> 00:02:41,196 Let me take him back up to my apartment. 44 00:02:41,233 --> 00:02:43,083 Everything will be fine." 45 00:02:43,116 --> 00:02:44,316 Casarez: What no one knew at the time 46 00:02:44,350 --> 00:02:47,480 was that Dahmer had just met this kid. 47 00:02:48,016 --> 00:02:51,366 He offered him money to come back to his apartment with him. 48 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:53,220 This kid had been drugged 49 00:02:53,250 --> 00:02:56,020 and was trying to escape his captor. 50 00:02:56,050 --> 00:02:59,200 Dr. Jentzen: Konerak, he was in a comatose state, 51 00:02:59,233 --> 00:03:03,333 and then he revived, left the apartment 52 00:03:03,366 --> 00:03:06,276 and was outside naked. 53 00:03:06,316 --> 00:03:08,346 Dahmer is coming back literally from the liquor store 54 00:03:08,383 --> 00:03:11,333 with liquor and encounters the police with his victim. 55 00:03:11,366 --> 00:03:15,146 Balcerzak: He appeared to be calm. 56 00:03:15,183 --> 00:03:17,173 There was nothing to suggest 57 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:22,220 that he was not as he was presenting himself to be. 58 00:03:24,033 --> 00:03:26,123 Schwartz: So the officers go up to the apartment, 59 00:03:26,150 --> 00:03:28,420 and they don't see anything that gives them pause. 60 00:03:28,450 --> 00:03:30,200 They see Konerak's clothes folded 61 00:03:30,233 --> 00:03:32,323 over the side of the couch. 62 00:03:32,350 --> 00:03:37,480 They see an apartment that's not out of "Architectural Digest," 63 00:03:38,016 --> 00:03:42,126 but it doesn't look like something untoward 64 00:03:42,166 --> 00:03:45,096 had been happening there. 65 00:03:45,133 --> 00:03:49,373 He manipulated those officers that night. 66 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:52,200 Casarez: The police see no reason to arrest Dahmer. 67 00:03:52,233 --> 00:03:55,023 They just say to him, "Take care of this kid," 68 00:03:55,050 --> 00:03:57,450 and then they leave. 69 00:03:57,483 --> 00:04:02,003 Immediately after the officers left, Dahmer killed Konerak. 70 00:04:04,300 --> 00:04:08,080 They escort this boy to his death, 71 00:04:08,116 --> 00:04:11,116 essentially handing him over to Jeffrey Dahmer 72 00:04:11,150 --> 00:04:15,020 who proceeds to kill him and dismember him. 73 00:04:15,050 --> 00:04:17,430 Reporter: Konerak Sinthasomphone was just 14 years old, 74 00:04:17,466 --> 00:04:20,216 the youngest in a family of Laotian refugees. 75 00:04:20,250 --> 00:04:22,300 He's the boy who was spotted naked and bleeding, 76 00:04:22,333 --> 00:04:24,153 running from Jeffrey Dahmer. 77 00:04:24,183 --> 00:04:27,033 The investigation further discloses 78 00:04:27,066 --> 00:04:29,996 that the police department individuals who responded 79 00:04:30,033 --> 00:04:33,483 failed to conduct a basic proper police investigation 80 00:04:34,016 --> 00:04:35,216 into the matter. 81 00:04:35,250 --> 00:04:38,000 If the police would have only checked Jeffrey Dahmer's record, 82 00:04:38,033 --> 00:04:40,183 they would've found that he's a registered sex offender 83 00:04:40,216 --> 00:04:44,016 who was on probation for sexually assaulting a boy, 84 00:04:44,050 --> 00:04:46,330 and it's almost impossible to imagine, 85 00:04:46,366 --> 00:04:50,216 but that victim was the brother of Konerak. 86 00:04:50,250 --> 00:04:52,270 Reporter 2: One of Konerak's older teenage brothers 87 00:04:52,300 --> 00:04:55,300 had been molested by Dahmer three years ago. 88 00:04:55,333 --> 00:05:00,053 So the whole thing was full of some very strange, like, 89 00:05:00,083 --> 00:05:03,453 what-are-the-chance kind of coincidences. 90 00:05:03,483 --> 00:05:06,123 Casarez: What police didn't know at this time -- 91 00:05:06,150 --> 00:05:09,470 Jeffrey Dahmer was in the middle of a killing spree. 92 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:12,070 If the police had gone into the next room, 93 00:05:12,100 --> 00:05:13,480 they would have found a dead body. 94 00:05:14,016 --> 00:05:15,426 Reporter 2: Even as police officers 95 00:05:15,466 --> 00:05:17,176 talked to Dahmer in the living room, 96 00:05:17,216 --> 00:05:20,446 the body of his latest victim lay just a room away. 97 00:05:22,050 --> 00:05:26,400 He was so quiet, so reserved. 98 00:05:26,433 --> 00:05:29,273 You wouldn't have believed in a million years 99 00:05:29,300 --> 00:05:31,300 that he was a serial killer. 100 00:05:31,333 --> 00:05:33,433 Never would you believe it. 101 00:05:33,466 --> 00:05:37,166 Banfield: Dahmer was a master manipulator, 102 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:41,330 and he probably got that way because he knew he had thoughts 103 00:05:41,366 --> 00:05:43,466 that were just too dark to share, 104 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:46,320 and he began to fantasize about what it would be like 105 00:05:46,350 --> 00:05:51,280 to have sex with men who were dead or unconscious. 106 00:05:56,300 --> 00:05:58,320 Dr. Dietz: What Jeffrey Dahmer wanted 107 00:05:58,350 --> 00:06:00,270 was a man who looked good to him, 108 00:06:00,300 --> 00:06:05,230 which basically meant nice face, good biceps, good physique, 109 00:06:05,266 --> 00:06:08,126 who would accept him, 110 00:06:08,166 --> 00:06:12,316 not force him to do things he didn't want to do, 111 00:06:12,350 --> 00:06:17,400 allow him to lay with them all night long and not leave. 112 00:06:17,433 --> 00:06:20,433 Casarez: Jeffrey Dahmer had sick fantasies of having sex 113 00:06:20,466 --> 00:06:23,266 with a dead or unconscious lover, 114 00:06:23,300 --> 00:06:24,450 but in the earlier years, 115 00:06:24,483 --> 00:06:28,233 he really tried to find alternatives to killing them. 116 00:06:29,283 --> 00:06:32,003 Dr. Dietz: And the things he tried -- 117 00:06:32,033 --> 00:06:36,453 he would scan obituaries for young males who had died, 118 00:06:36,483 --> 00:06:38,403 and he tried to dig up their graves, 119 00:06:38,433 --> 00:06:42,133 but the ground was frozen, so that didn't work. 120 00:06:42,166 --> 00:06:44,016 Another strategy he tried 121 00:06:44,050 --> 00:06:47,080 was to steal a mannequin from a department store 122 00:06:47,116 --> 00:06:50,226 by hiding out until after closing hours. 123 00:06:53,150 --> 00:06:58,300 He wanted to have it there with him as a substitute person. 124 00:06:58,333 --> 00:07:04,033 He tried every strategy he could devise to find 125 00:07:04,066 --> 00:07:07,376 a substitute for that voluntary partner 126 00:07:07,416 --> 00:07:09,426 who would lay there and not leave. 127 00:07:09,466 --> 00:07:15,396 ♪♪ 128 00:07:15,433 --> 00:07:18,433 Eventually, none of those strategies satisfied him, 129 00:07:18,466 --> 00:07:22,066 so he began to target live victims. 130 00:07:22,100 --> 00:07:25,470 Dr. Dietz: The next strategy he tried 131 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:29,080 was to administer a sedative 132 00:07:29,116 --> 00:07:33,066 to men that he found attractive. 133 00:07:33,100 --> 00:07:36,330 Dr. Jentzen: Before Dahmer went out for an evening, 134 00:07:36,366 --> 00:07:40,026 he knew that he was going to be trying to find a victim, 135 00:07:40,066 --> 00:07:44,066 and he would prepare a drug concoction 136 00:07:44,100 --> 00:07:48,080 of benzodiazepines, valium. 137 00:07:48,116 --> 00:07:51,196 Meuler: He picked up victims at such a variety of places, 138 00:07:51,233 --> 00:07:55,153 you know, adult bookstores, the gay bars, on the streets. 139 00:07:55,183 --> 00:07:56,383 I mean, you -- you know, 140 00:07:56,416 --> 00:07:59,266 you have to have a little bit of con man in you to do that. 141 00:07:59,300 --> 00:08:02,330 Schwartz: Dahmer would strike up a conversation with these men. 142 00:08:02,366 --> 00:08:04,196 "How you doing?" 143 00:08:04,233 --> 00:08:06,173 He talked to them a little bit. 144 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:07,480 What he was trying to find out 145 00:08:08,016 --> 00:08:10,066 is if this was something who would be missed. 146 00:08:10,100 --> 00:08:14,070 If someone said, "I haven't spoken with my family in years," 147 00:08:14,100 --> 00:08:16,380 that was the kind of person he was looking for. 148 00:08:16,416 --> 00:08:19,016 Dr. Jentzen: And when he brought a victim back, 149 00:08:19,050 --> 00:08:22,020 he would offer the individual the drink, 150 00:08:22,050 --> 00:08:23,300 and that would sedate them, 151 00:08:23,333 --> 00:08:26,153 and then he was able to take control of them. 152 00:08:29,450 --> 00:08:31,000 McCann: And then do what he wished with them, 153 00:08:31,033 --> 00:08:32,433 and they were completely under his control. 154 00:08:32,466 --> 00:08:34,266 They couldn't resist. 155 00:08:34,300 --> 00:08:35,450 They couldn't say, "No, I don't like this or don't want that," 156 00:08:35,483 --> 00:08:37,353 so it was his desire to dominate, 157 00:08:37,383 --> 00:08:40,453 to completely dominate. 158 00:08:40,483 --> 00:08:43,103 Casarez: This was Dahmer's M.O. for years -- 159 00:08:43,133 --> 00:08:46,123 picking men up and drugging them, 160 00:08:46,150 --> 00:08:49,250 but in 1987, the M.O. changed. 161 00:08:49,283 --> 00:08:52,453 He lured a man to his hotel room. 162 00:08:52,483 --> 00:08:55,253 Schwartz: Dahmer met him in Milwaukee. 163 00:08:55,283 --> 00:08:58,153 He took him to the Ambassador Hotel. 164 00:08:58,183 --> 00:09:00,103 They had sex. 165 00:09:00,133 --> 00:09:02,253 Dahmer says that he blacked out, 166 00:09:02,283 --> 00:09:04,153 and when he woke up in the morning, 167 00:09:04,183 --> 00:09:07,473 he woke up next to Steven Tuomi's dead body. 168 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:10,020 Banfield: Later, Jeffrey Dahmer talked about that night 169 00:09:10,050 --> 00:09:13,130 with Stone Phillips on "Dateline NBC." 170 00:09:13,166 --> 00:09:15,396 He was hanging over the side of the bed, 171 00:09:15,433 --> 00:09:19,103 and I have no memory of beating him to death, 172 00:09:19,133 --> 00:09:21,073 but I must've, 173 00:09:21,100 --> 00:09:24,180 and that's when it all started again. 174 00:09:24,216 --> 00:09:27,126 And once it started again, you found it impossible to stop. 175 00:09:27,166 --> 00:09:28,266 Right. That -- that's when the -- 176 00:09:28,300 --> 00:09:31,070 the obsession went into full swing. 177 00:09:33,133 --> 00:09:36,203 After he got a taste of it, that's when he went out 178 00:09:36,233 --> 00:09:39,473 and starting actively looking for victims, 179 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:41,320 one after the other. 180 00:09:45,283 --> 00:09:49,203 He was very, very calculating, the way he picked out victims, 181 00:09:49,233 --> 00:09:51,233 the way he covered his tracks 182 00:09:51,266 --> 00:09:54,426 so that victims couldn't be linked to him. 183 00:09:54,466 --> 00:09:58,226 You know, he thought that out. 184 00:09:58,266 --> 00:10:00,426 Casarez: This is a guy who'd been living a double life 185 00:10:00,466 --> 00:10:02,216 since he was a kid, 186 00:10:02,250 --> 00:10:04,270 trying to be normal on the outside 187 00:10:04,300 --> 00:10:07,420 but holding secrets on the inside 188 00:10:07,450 --> 00:10:10,080 as he told NBC's "Dateline." 189 00:10:10,116 --> 00:10:11,196 Talking about it, I don't think, 190 00:10:11,233 --> 00:10:13,083 would've made that much difference 191 00:10:13,116 --> 00:10:15,266 because like I said, there were things going on in my head 192 00:10:15,300 --> 00:10:18,000 that I would've never opened up 193 00:10:18,033 --> 00:10:20,223 and talked about with anybody. 194 00:10:20,250 --> 00:10:24,430 He had developed a fascination fairly early 195 00:10:24,466 --> 00:10:30,066 with the idea of skeletons and dissection. 196 00:10:30,100 --> 00:10:32,250 It's pretty frightening that he was thinking that way 197 00:10:32,283 --> 00:10:36,133 way back then, and the rest of us had no clue. 198 00:10:40,050 --> 00:10:44,070 King: Tonight, exclusive -- the parents of Jeffrey Dahmer. 199 00:10:44,100 --> 00:10:48,120 Their son was one of America's most notorious serial killers. 200 00:10:48,150 --> 00:10:51,250 Now, in an exclusive interview, his parents, 201 00:10:51,283 --> 00:10:56,083 Lionel and Shari Dahmer, speak out on what went wrong 202 00:10:56,116 --> 00:11:01,226 to turn their handsome, soft-spoken son into a monster. 203 00:11:01,266 --> 00:11:03,996 King: Why are you coming on? 204 00:11:04,033 --> 00:11:10,273 I really want to tell parents about what I think 205 00:11:10,300 --> 00:11:14,250 they should look for in rearing their children. 206 00:11:14,283 --> 00:11:16,223 That could help a lot of people? 207 00:11:16,250 --> 00:11:17,250 Yeah. 208 00:11:17,283 --> 00:11:18,453 And you support that, Shari? 209 00:11:18,483 --> 00:11:22,003 Shari: Oh, absolutely, anything that we could do 210 00:11:22,033 --> 00:11:25,333 to circumvent or prevent another Jeff would be a blessing. 211 00:11:25,366 --> 00:11:28,166 Because it can't be easy. It is not easy. 212 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:30,200 It would be easier to forget about it... 213 00:11:30,233 --> 00:11:31,273 Absolutely. ...if you can, right? 214 00:11:31,300 --> 00:11:33,300 But no one allows us to forget about it. 215 00:11:33,333 --> 00:11:35,483 What was he like as a teenager? 216 00:11:36,016 --> 00:11:39,366 He had a small circle of friends 217 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:45,020 who liked to play gags and joke around a lot. 218 00:11:45,050 --> 00:11:46,200 Practical jokes? 219 00:11:46,233 --> 00:11:48,403 Yeah. 220 00:11:48,433 --> 00:11:51,173 Kukral: In high school, Jeff Dahmer sort of became 221 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:53,370 attached to my group of friends. 222 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:56,270 We sort of adopted him, you could say. 223 00:11:56,300 --> 00:12:00,450 We found him an interesting guy because of his sense of humor. 224 00:12:00,483 --> 00:12:03,283 I remember him running down the hall and yelling, 225 00:12:03,316 --> 00:12:04,316 "Tornado! Tornado! 226 00:12:04,350 --> 00:12:06,250 Tornado! Get down on the floor! 227 00:12:06,283 --> 00:12:08,153 Everybody get down on the floor!" 228 00:12:08,183 --> 00:12:10,473 And then just walking down the hall calmly after that. 229 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:14,370 We thought things like that were really funny that he did. 230 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:17,430 One of my best friends from high school is John Backderf, 231 00:12:17,466 --> 00:12:20,166 and he wrote a book called "My Friend Dahmer," 232 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:22,050 a graphic novel, 233 00:12:22,083 --> 00:12:25,333 and that book basically shows our high school days 234 00:12:25,366 --> 00:12:27,376 at Revere High better than anything else, 235 00:12:27,416 --> 00:12:31,076 better than anything I can tell you. 236 00:12:31,116 --> 00:12:33,246 Casarez: What his high school friends didn't know 237 00:12:33,283 --> 00:12:35,423 and what his family didn't even know 238 00:12:35,450 --> 00:12:40,480 was that Jeffrey Dahmer wasn't what he seemed to be. 239 00:12:41,016 --> 00:12:43,126 He was hiding something. 240 00:12:43,166 --> 00:12:47,326 He had developed a fascination fairly early 241 00:12:47,366 --> 00:12:54,166 with the idea of skeletons and dissection. 242 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:57,450 Lionel: At the age of 12 to 14, we found out 243 00:12:57,483 --> 00:13:02,003 that he had been collecting dead animals, roadkill, 244 00:13:02,033 --> 00:13:05,183 riding around the rural roads and collecting them in bags. 245 00:13:05,216 --> 00:13:07,146 He would take them home, and he'd cut them up, 246 00:13:07,183 --> 00:13:10,483 and the colors fascinated him. 247 00:13:11,016 --> 00:13:16,066 The colors of the internal organs of the dead animals 248 00:13:16,100 --> 00:13:17,470 got him all excited. 249 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:20,150 Dr. Dietz: And he had the additional problem 250 00:13:20,183 --> 00:13:24,273 that he was growing up in Ohio, 251 00:13:24,300 --> 00:13:30,000 discovering he was gay at a time when this was very repressed 252 00:13:30,033 --> 00:13:33,283 and not something that he could come out freely about. 253 00:13:37,100 --> 00:13:39,020 Banfield: In the book "My Friend Dahmer," 254 00:13:39,050 --> 00:13:40,230 it really lays out the struggles 255 00:13:40,266 --> 00:13:42,446 that Jeffrey Dahmer had in high school, 256 00:13:42,483 --> 00:13:45,023 the struggles to fit in, 257 00:13:45,050 --> 00:13:46,220 the struggles that he had fighting off 258 00:13:46,250 --> 00:13:49,320 those twisted fantasies, 259 00:13:49,350 --> 00:13:53,300 and he tried to explain his bizarre behavior 260 00:13:53,333 --> 00:13:55,273 when he did an interview with "Dateline NBC." 261 00:13:55,300 --> 00:13:59,430 I think it was around age 14 or 15, 262 00:13:59,466 --> 00:14:01,446 I started to have -- 263 00:14:01,483 --> 00:14:04,253 having obsessive thoughts of -- 264 00:14:04,283 --> 00:14:08,453 of...violence 265 00:14:08,483 --> 00:14:11,103 intermingled with sex. 266 00:14:11,133 --> 00:14:13,073 The rest of us had no clue 267 00:14:13,100 --> 00:14:16,250 that he was thinking about killing someone 268 00:14:16,283 --> 00:14:20,483 or having sex with someone or their body at that age. 269 00:14:21,016 --> 00:14:23,076 Well, what we learned many years later 270 00:14:23,116 --> 00:14:25,466 was that Jeff Dahmer had an obsession with a jogger 271 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:29,100 that ran by his house. 272 00:14:29,133 --> 00:14:32,183 Casarez: What nobody knew at the time, including the jogger, 273 00:14:32,216 --> 00:14:33,396 was that Jeffrey Dahmer 274 00:14:33,433 --> 00:14:37,173 was having fantasies about abducting him. 275 00:14:38,483 --> 00:14:40,173 Dr. Dietz: He was planning to hit the jogger 276 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:42,080 over the head with a heavy object, 277 00:14:42,116 --> 00:14:45,096 drag him into the bushes and have his way with him. 278 00:14:45,133 --> 00:14:49,433 He had hidden in shrubbery, hoping to attack him 279 00:14:49,466 --> 00:14:54,216 and prepared to attack him, but he never got the nerve. 280 00:14:54,250 --> 00:14:57,270 That was pretty frightening to realize that we were around him 281 00:14:57,300 --> 00:15:02,250 when his mind had these visions going on in it. 282 00:15:02,283 --> 00:15:06,003 Jeffrey Dahmer knew that his sexual urges were sick. 283 00:15:06,033 --> 00:15:10,023 They were twisted, but he couldn't tell anybody. 284 00:15:10,050 --> 00:15:13,370 His solution was alcohol. 285 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:16,300 Kukral: He was drinking in the parking lot before school. 286 00:15:16,333 --> 00:15:19,173 He was drinking out of booze in his briefcase 287 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:21,170 that he carried around, which was sort of weird. 288 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:23,250 When Jeffrey was in his senior year, 289 00:15:23,283 --> 00:15:26,083 his parents' marriage was really falling apart, 290 00:15:26,116 --> 00:15:29,316 and his dad ended up moving out. 291 00:15:29,350 --> 00:15:30,350 King: How did Jeff take it? 292 00:15:30,383 --> 00:15:33,173 Jeff, I think, he had -- 293 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:37,200 he told me that -- that it disturbed him very much. 294 00:15:37,233 --> 00:15:40,283 Kukral: Senior year, he drifted away from us. 295 00:15:40,316 --> 00:15:45,416 I think that his academic record started to fall apart, 296 00:15:45,450 --> 00:15:48,080 and he stopped going to a lot of classes 297 00:15:48,116 --> 00:15:50,396 the end of our junior year, senior year. 298 00:15:50,433 --> 00:15:53,223 I think Jeffrey Dahmer really lost it 299 00:15:53,250 --> 00:15:54,330 when his parents divorced, 300 00:15:54,366 --> 00:15:57,246 and his mother took off with their younger son 301 00:15:57,283 --> 00:15:59,373 and moved somewhere else 302 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:03,280 and left Jeffrey Dahmer alone in the family home. 303 00:16:03,316 --> 00:16:07,246 Banfield: Later, Dahmer explained it in his confession. 304 00:16:07,283 --> 00:16:09,373 He states that it was at this time 305 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:12,280 he started to have strong feelings of being left 306 00:16:12,316 --> 00:16:14,416 all alone and strong desires 307 00:16:14,450 --> 00:16:17,270 of not wanting to have people leave him. 308 00:16:17,300 --> 00:16:22,230 That not-leaving-him was an important issue to him. 309 00:16:22,266 --> 00:16:24,416 Velez-Mitchell: Being abandoned in the family home 310 00:16:24,450 --> 00:16:28,020 while dad's gone and mother leaves with the younger brother 311 00:16:28,050 --> 00:16:30,270 to start a new life -- that's the moment he broke. 312 00:16:30,300 --> 00:16:31,350 He snapped. 313 00:16:31,383 --> 00:16:34,203 The world became a dark and awful place, 314 00:16:34,233 --> 00:16:36,373 and everybody was his enemy. 315 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:42,330 Banfield: Shortly after his graduation, 316 00:16:42,366 --> 00:16:47,996 Jeffrey Dahmer was driving around and passed Stephen Hicks, 317 00:16:48,033 --> 00:16:53,023 and something told him to turn back around, and he did. 318 00:16:53,050 --> 00:16:56,130 Stephen Hicks was on his way to a rock concert that night, 319 00:16:56,166 --> 00:16:59,126 and Stephen Hicks never made it to that rock concert. 320 00:16:59,166 --> 00:17:02,396 Dahmer took Stephen Hicks back to his parents' empty place, 321 00:17:02,433 --> 00:17:05,103 and they were drinking beers together, 322 00:17:05,133 --> 00:17:10,223 and that's when something went horrifically wrong. 323 00:17:10,250 --> 00:17:13,350 There was an altercation because Stephen wanted to leave. 324 00:17:13,383 --> 00:17:17,003 Jeff had made a pass at him, and Stephen wanted to leave. 325 00:17:17,033 --> 00:17:19,183 Dr. Dietz: Dahmer took a barbell 326 00:17:19,216 --> 00:17:22,016 and banged him over the head with it, 327 00:17:22,050 --> 00:17:25,230 and this was his first encounter with how much work it is 328 00:17:25,266 --> 00:17:27,316 to dispose of a human corpse. 329 00:17:27,350 --> 00:17:28,370 Reporter 3: Police say Hicks 330 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:30,100 was a hitchhiker picked up by Dahmer 331 00:17:30,133 --> 00:17:33,183 when he was just 18, the victim killed in a bedroom, 332 00:17:33,216 --> 00:17:36,446 his body dismembered in a tight crawl space. 333 00:17:36,483 --> 00:17:38,033 Banfield: He killed Stephen Hicks. 334 00:17:38,066 --> 00:17:39,226 He cut him into pieces. 335 00:17:39,266 --> 00:17:41,126 He put him into garbage bags. 336 00:17:41,166 --> 00:17:43,076 This is where it all could've ended. 337 00:17:43,116 --> 00:17:46,416 Dahmer was on the way to the dump with Hicks' body... 338 00:17:46,450 --> 00:17:48,050 [ Siren wailing ] 339 00:17:48,083 --> 00:17:50,003 ....and he's suddenly pulled over by police. 340 00:17:50,033 --> 00:17:52,083 Murphy: You know, you stop him for a violation. 341 00:17:52,116 --> 00:17:57,316 You know, he wasn't drunk, so they let him go. 342 00:17:57,350 --> 00:17:59,120 Boyle: Incredible. 343 00:17:59,150 --> 00:18:01,320 Here, the first time he kills a human being, 344 00:18:01,350 --> 00:18:06,350 and the cops pull him over, and they say he wasn't nervous. 345 00:18:06,383 --> 00:18:07,403 "What were you doing?" 346 00:18:07,433 --> 00:18:10,453 "I'm taking garbage to the dump." 347 00:18:10,483 --> 00:18:13,433 He was as cool as cool could be. 348 00:18:13,466 --> 00:18:15,326 That was a close call for Dahmer 349 00:18:15,366 --> 00:18:18,266 and a missed opportunity for society. 350 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:23,070 Casarez: Mike Kukral remembers giving Dahmer a ride home 351 00:18:23,100 --> 00:18:25,430 about that time and dropping him off 352 00:18:25,466 --> 00:18:29,296 right in the driveway of his parents' empty home. 353 00:18:29,333 --> 00:18:31,073 Kukral: What I didn't know at that time, 354 00:18:31,100 --> 00:18:32,430 there would be no way to know it, 355 00:18:32,466 --> 00:18:36,166 was that when I gave Jeff Dahmer a ride home that night, 356 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:38,450 there was probably a body in his house, 357 00:18:38,483 --> 00:18:42,403 the body of Stephen Hicks that he had killed. 358 00:18:42,433 --> 00:18:47,203 I never thought that would be the last time I'd see him. 359 00:18:47,233 --> 00:18:50,173 Banfield: Just a couple of weeks after high school, 360 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:53,200 Jeffrey Dahmer had already killed his first victim. 361 00:18:53,233 --> 00:18:56,303 He was pretty aimless, didn't know what he wanted to do, 362 00:18:56,333 --> 00:19:00,383 and it was actually his dad that pushed him to go to college. 363 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:07,150 Kukral: He did go to Ohio State for one semester or one quarter 364 00:19:07,183 --> 00:19:10,033 in the fall that fall, and all he did was drink 365 00:19:10,066 --> 00:19:13,076 and not go to classes, and that was the end of that. 366 00:19:13,116 --> 00:19:14,346 Lionel: He came back home, 367 00:19:14,383 --> 00:19:19,083 and I then proceeded to take him to the Army. 368 00:19:19,116 --> 00:19:21,276 He served, and he came back from boot camp 369 00:19:21,316 --> 00:19:26,166 looking like just a wonderful physical specimen. 370 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:28,380 We were encouraged. 371 00:19:28,416 --> 00:19:31,316 Reporter 4: Less than three years after joining the Army, 372 00:19:31,350 --> 00:19:35,280 Dahmer was kicked out for excessive drinking. 373 00:19:35,316 --> 00:19:36,416 What happens after the Army? 374 00:19:36,450 --> 00:19:39,030 Lionel: He kept getting into trouble. 375 00:19:39,066 --> 00:19:41,266 Eventually, it got so bad that we sent him 376 00:19:41,300 --> 00:19:43,130 to his grandmother's house... 377 00:19:43,166 --> 00:19:45,196 To your parents? ...in Wisconsin. 378 00:19:45,233 --> 00:19:47,023 McCann: That's when he came under grandmother's influence 379 00:19:47,050 --> 00:19:48,320 and kind of straightened out his lifestyle. 380 00:19:48,350 --> 00:19:49,430 She had him going to church, 381 00:19:49,466 --> 00:19:52,446 and he abstained from many of these activities. 382 00:19:52,483 --> 00:19:54,233 Lionel: For a while, it went very well. 383 00:19:54,266 --> 00:19:58,296 My mother cooked for him, and he finally found a job 384 00:19:58,333 --> 00:19:59,483 at a chocolate company, 385 00:20:00,016 --> 00:20:03,276 but then things started to occur. 386 00:20:03,316 --> 00:20:07,246 His drinking accelerated, and the killing accelerated. 387 00:20:07,283 --> 00:20:11,033 It was only a matter of time before Dahmer would trip up. 388 00:20:15,033 --> 00:20:18,103 Jeffrey Dahmer had already killed five young men 389 00:20:18,133 --> 00:20:21,223 by the time his grandmother threw him out in 1990. 390 00:20:21,250 --> 00:20:22,400 He moved into his own apartment 391 00:20:22,433 --> 00:20:24,403 in a seedy neighborhood of Milwaukee, 392 00:20:24,433 --> 00:20:27,403 and that's when things really started to spin out of control. 393 00:20:27,433 --> 00:20:29,403 No longer accountable to anyone, 394 00:20:29,433 --> 00:20:32,133 Dahmer was now free to give into his most twisted, 395 00:20:32,166 --> 00:20:36,196 sadistic fantasies, like some horror movie come to life. 396 00:20:36,233 --> 00:20:41,233 ♪♪ 397 00:20:41,266 --> 00:20:46,116 Dahmer was one of the few Caucasian people 398 00:20:46,150 --> 00:20:48,230 that lived in that neighborhood, 399 00:20:48,266 --> 00:20:51,216 and he moved into an apartment building 400 00:20:51,250 --> 00:20:54,480 where it was almost all African Americans. 401 00:20:55,016 --> 00:20:59,196 And when he moved into apartment 213, 402 00:20:59,233 --> 00:21:04,103 nobody knew what was happening behind that door. 403 00:21:06,266 --> 00:21:09,076 Velez-Mitchell: Jeffrey Dahmer's crimes were escalating. 404 00:21:09,116 --> 00:21:13,396 His dismemberment rituals were getting more and more grotesque 405 00:21:13,433 --> 00:21:15,273 if that's even possible. 406 00:21:17,316 --> 00:21:20,276 Dr. Dietz: He'd lay down plastic 407 00:21:20,316 --> 00:21:24,066 and was preparing to dismember the body, 408 00:21:24,100 --> 00:21:27,100 but he hated doing so, 409 00:21:27,133 --> 00:21:29,223 so much that he had to get drunk 410 00:21:29,250 --> 00:21:32,000 to overcome his aversion to it. 411 00:21:34,100 --> 00:21:37,100 Banfield: Dahmer hated disposing of his victims, 412 00:21:37,133 --> 00:21:41,153 and he came up with an idea that was more horrific 413 00:21:41,183 --> 00:21:44,123 than anything he had already done. 414 00:21:44,150 --> 00:21:49,070 It was a way to keep his would-be victims alive. 415 00:21:49,100 --> 00:21:51,320 My brother was Errol Lindsey. 416 00:21:51,350 --> 00:21:53,430 He was 19 years old. 417 00:21:53,466 --> 00:21:57,276 He left home, going to get a key made, 418 00:21:57,316 --> 00:22:00,426 and he just never came back. 419 00:22:00,466 --> 00:22:03,146 He never came back. 420 00:22:03,183 --> 00:22:06,073 Errol Lindsey was Dahmer's first experiment. 421 00:22:06,100 --> 00:22:11,270 Errol was just like the normal kid trying to hustle up, 422 00:22:11,300 --> 00:22:14,370 you know, on money and however he could get it, you know? 423 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:16,280 Dr. Dietz: He met this individual 424 00:22:16,316 --> 00:22:19,396 approximately March of '91 425 00:22:19,433 --> 00:22:23,003 on the corner of 27th and Kilbourn. 426 00:22:23,033 --> 00:22:27,283 He offered this individual money for posing and to view videos. 427 00:22:27,316 --> 00:22:31,296 Errol was not gay, you know, and if he was gay, I -- 428 00:22:31,333 --> 00:22:33,173 you know, he was still my brother, 429 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:35,420 and I still would love him, but he wasn't gay. 430 00:22:35,450 --> 00:22:39,480 I don't know what it took to get him to his house. 431 00:22:41,050 --> 00:22:46,180 What Jeffrey did to Errol Lindsey was so beyond the pale, 432 00:22:46,216 --> 00:22:49,016 I mean, you really can't write this stuff. 433 00:22:49,050 --> 00:22:54,420 He started drilling holes in the skulls of people who are alive! 434 00:22:57,033 --> 00:22:59,303 Dahmer talked about this period in an interview 435 00:22:59,333 --> 00:23:01,283 with "Inside Edition." 436 00:23:01,316 --> 00:23:06,276 I tried to keep the person alive 437 00:23:06,316 --> 00:23:09,346 by inducing a zombielike state... 438 00:23:13,283 --> 00:23:18,283 ...by injecting, first, 439 00:23:18,316 --> 00:23:21,076 a dilute acid solution into their brain 440 00:23:21,116 --> 00:23:23,196 or hot water. 441 00:23:25,283 --> 00:23:29,403 Schwartz: In his mind, he was trying to create 442 00:23:29,433 --> 00:23:32,383 a kind of a zombie, someone in a zombie state. 443 00:23:32,416 --> 00:23:36,226 He wanted these people to stay with him. 444 00:23:36,266 --> 00:23:38,226 He didn't want them to leave, 445 00:23:38,266 --> 00:23:42,196 and he didn't really want them to die. 446 00:23:45,100 --> 00:23:47,080 Harris: My brother was not an angel. 447 00:23:47,116 --> 00:23:51,166 I know that, but he didn't deserve to die 448 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:54,050 the way that he did. 449 00:23:54,083 --> 00:23:56,103 Schwartz: After Errol Lindsey was killed, 450 00:23:56,133 --> 00:23:57,423 Dahmer killed six more people 451 00:23:57,450 --> 00:23:59,450 in the span of about three months. 452 00:23:59,483 --> 00:24:02,183 Casarez: Dahmer talked about the end of his killing spree 453 00:24:02,216 --> 00:24:05,296 on an interview with "Dateline NBC." 454 00:24:05,333 --> 00:24:08,103 The killing was just a means to an end. 455 00:24:08,133 --> 00:24:11,033 That was the least satisfactory part. 456 00:24:11,066 --> 00:24:12,396 I didn't enjoy doing that. Stone: Mm-hmm. 457 00:24:12,433 --> 00:24:18,473 That's why I tried to create living zombies 458 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:22,330 with the muriatic acid and the -- and the drill. 459 00:24:23,333 --> 00:24:25,183 Dr. Dietz: Late in his killing spree, 460 00:24:25,216 --> 00:24:28,276 he was in an uncontrolled drinking binge 461 00:24:28,316 --> 00:24:33,126 that made him fall behind in his schedule of disposing of bodies. 462 00:24:33,166 --> 00:24:36,146 Meuler: He would often call in sick that Monday 463 00:24:36,183 --> 00:24:39,473 because he would be working on disposing of the bodies, 464 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,370 and -- and if you looked at the early timeline, 465 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:45,000 he always spaced it out. 466 00:24:45,033 --> 00:24:46,273 He would never bring another victim in 467 00:24:46,300 --> 00:24:50,480 until other victim had been disposed of, if you will. 468 00:24:51,016 --> 00:24:54,346 His drinking accelerated, and the killing accelerated. 469 00:24:54,383 --> 00:24:58,153 It was only a matter of time before Dahmer would trip up. 470 00:24:58,183 --> 00:25:00,003 Meuler: He just became very desperate, 471 00:25:00,033 --> 00:25:05,053 and there was less planning as it went on. 472 00:25:06,283 --> 00:25:10,133 After killing 17 victims over 13 years, 473 00:25:10,166 --> 00:25:14,116 Jeffrey Dahmer met a guy named Tracy Edwards. 474 00:25:19,300 --> 00:25:20,280 McCann: Dahmer had picked him up, 475 00:25:20,316 --> 00:25:22,346 persuaded him to come to his home. 476 00:25:22,383 --> 00:25:24,003 Edwards, deciding he was in danger, 477 00:25:24,033 --> 00:25:25,023 wanted to get out of there. 478 00:25:25,050 --> 00:25:27,170 Dahmer had gotten a handcuff on. 479 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:30,030 Velez-Mitchell: He handcuffed the guy with one cuff, 480 00:25:30,066 --> 00:25:32,996 and then there was sort of this elaborate negotiation 481 00:25:33,033 --> 00:25:35,453 where the guy said he had to go to the bathroom. 482 00:25:35,483 --> 00:25:38,253 Tracy Edwards would've been number 18. 483 00:25:41,183 --> 00:25:43,083 Edwards: I knew something was about to happen, 484 00:25:43,116 --> 00:25:46,046 so I suggested that I go to the bathroom. 485 00:25:46,083 --> 00:25:47,473 I just seized the opportunity. 486 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:49,330 I said, "Well, at least I'm gonna die trying. 487 00:25:49,366 --> 00:25:51,366 I'm not just gonna sit here," you know? 488 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:52,430 Man: What'd you do, son? 489 00:25:52,466 --> 00:25:55,296 I hit him, and I ran towards the door, 490 00:25:55,333 --> 00:25:58,233 and he, like, was right there, tried to grab me, 491 00:25:58,266 --> 00:25:59,476 get me back in there. 492 00:26:00,016 --> 00:26:02,026 Velez-Mitchell: He races to the cops, and he says, 493 00:26:02,066 --> 00:26:04,266 "Get this handcuff off me!" 494 00:26:04,300 --> 00:26:06,480 Edwards: I told the policeman that this freak, 495 00:26:07,016 --> 00:26:09,296 this crazy guy, was trying to hurt me. 496 00:26:09,333 --> 00:26:11,333 The key wouldn't fit, so they got -- 497 00:26:11,366 --> 00:26:13,076 so they went back to Dahmer's apartment 498 00:26:13,116 --> 00:26:15,416 to get the key to let -- get the handcuff off. 499 00:26:15,450 --> 00:26:18,050 On the way -- on the way, Edwards told them, 500 00:26:18,083 --> 00:26:19,223 "By the way, he wouldn't let me look 501 00:26:19,250 --> 00:26:22,420 in the refrigerator for some reason." 502 00:26:22,450 --> 00:26:25,230 Dahmer was there. He had been -- he was drunk. 503 00:26:25,266 --> 00:26:27,176 He opened the door. He says, "Come on in." 504 00:26:27,216 --> 00:26:29,296 Dahmer lets them in, unlocked this thing, 505 00:26:29,333 --> 00:26:32,003 and the cop walks over and looks in the refrigerator, 506 00:26:32,033 --> 00:26:33,433 and there's a floating flesh skull. 507 00:26:40,066 --> 00:26:44,166 Banfield: When police showed up at Jeffrey Dahmer's apartment 508 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:47,320 to check out Tracy Edwards' story, 509 00:26:47,350 --> 00:26:52,250 they walked into a human slaughterhouse. 510 00:26:52,283 --> 00:26:56,203 Dr. Dietz: There were whole heads in the refrigerator, 511 00:26:56,233 --> 00:27:01,183 and there were fillets of biceps in the freezer. 512 00:27:02,333 --> 00:27:04,133 It was kind of clear the jig was up 513 00:27:04,166 --> 00:27:07,446 when you're found with so much in your apartment, 514 00:27:07,483 --> 00:27:10,073 and there's really no way out. 515 00:27:10,100 --> 00:27:16,150 ♪♪ 516 00:27:16,183 --> 00:27:18,423 Dr. Jentzen: There was a large, silver, 517 00:27:18,450 --> 00:27:20,280 stainless-steel cooking pot, 518 00:27:20,316 --> 00:27:23,076 and in the bottom of that cooking pot 519 00:27:23,116 --> 00:27:25,426 were two severed hands. 520 00:27:25,466 --> 00:27:30,476 There were binders of Polaroid photographs 521 00:27:31,016 --> 00:27:34,096 that basically depicted individuals 522 00:27:34,133 --> 00:27:37,053 before and after death. 523 00:27:37,083 --> 00:27:40,423 Bass: The pictures were horrific. 524 00:27:40,450 --> 00:27:45,250 It was like someone setting a stage with mannequins, 525 00:27:45,283 --> 00:27:46,373 but these aren't mannequins. 526 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,330 These are human beings. 527 00:27:48,366 --> 00:27:52,016 Schwartz: Imagine these police officers standing there 528 00:27:52,050 --> 00:27:53,400 and trying to take this in, 529 00:27:53,433 --> 00:27:56,373 trying to process what was going on. 530 00:27:56,400 --> 00:28:00,030 There was no crime scene ever like this 531 00:28:00,066 --> 00:28:02,346 for the people that responded that night. 532 00:28:02,383 --> 00:28:07,103 The types of revulsion that one feels when you -- 533 00:28:07,133 --> 00:28:09,183 when you witness something like this firsthand 534 00:28:09,216 --> 00:28:11,026 cannot be described. 535 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:17,000 Schwartz: Back in 1991, you show up at a crime scene. 536 00:28:17,033 --> 00:28:18,273 People have the boom boxes out. 537 00:28:18,300 --> 00:28:20,030 They're yelling. 538 00:28:20,066 --> 00:28:24,166 This was eerie in how quiet it was, 539 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:29,380 especially when the barrels started coming down the stairs. 540 00:28:33,133 --> 00:28:35,133 Dr. Jentzen: In the corner 541 00:28:35,166 --> 00:28:38,346 was this large 50-gallon plastic container, 542 00:28:38,383 --> 00:28:42,433 and it turned out that there were four intact skeletons 543 00:28:42,466 --> 00:28:45,376 in that container, and at that time, 544 00:28:45,416 --> 00:28:50,996 we made the decision that we would contact a Hazmat unit 545 00:28:51,033 --> 00:28:54,453 to transport that container. 546 00:28:54,483 --> 00:28:58,033 The actual crime-scene investigation 547 00:28:58,066 --> 00:29:01,066 was more like dismantling a museum 548 00:29:01,100 --> 00:29:04,000 rather than an actual crime scene. 549 00:29:07,050 --> 00:29:09,100 Jackson: So the police arrest Jeffrey Dahmer 550 00:29:09,133 --> 00:29:10,233 just before midnight, 551 00:29:10,266 --> 00:29:13,116 and by 1:30, he's at the Milwaukee police department, 552 00:29:13,150 --> 00:29:18,070 talking and talking and talking like he had never talked before. 553 00:29:18,100 --> 00:29:20,420 Boyle: I think he wanted to talk to us so much 554 00:29:20,450 --> 00:29:23,480 was because he'd never had someone to sit down 555 00:29:24,016 --> 00:29:27,046 and actually relate to, and during that questioning, 556 00:29:27,083 --> 00:29:30,133 we caught a semblance of who was killed, 557 00:29:30,166 --> 00:29:35,076 what time and when and the order they were killed. 558 00:29:35,116 --> 00:29:36,316 Jackson: Over the next six weeks, 559 00:29:36,350 --> 00:29:41,450 Jeffrey Dahmer spent 166 hours confessing in graphic detail 560 00:29:41,483 --> 00:29:44,123 to all the murders he'd ever committed 561 00:29:44,150 --> 00:29:47,070 and all the sick things he'd ever engaged in, 562 00:29:47,100 --> 00:29:49,300 including cannibalism. 563 00:29:49,333 --> 00:29:52,283 Dr. Dietz: He got the nickname "The Milwaukee Cannibal," 564 00:29:52,316 --> 00:29:57,466 but that was a small part of his M.O. 565 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,370 and of his desires 566 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:03,300 and was a late arriving part 567 00:30:03,333 --> 00:30:06,173 and really sprang from his thought 568 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:13,100 that it was such a waste to have brief time with these men 569 00:30:13,133 --> 00:30:15,423 and then for them to disappear, 570 00:30:15,450 --> 00:30:19,220 and the idea of eating a part of them 571 00:30:19,250 --> 00:30:24,070 was the idea of incorporating a part of them into himself. 572 00:30:24,100 --> 00:30:27,120 And we had secretaries that were typing our reports 573 00:30:27,150 --> 00:30:29,100 that couldn't type them. 574 00:30:29,133 --> 00:30:31,373 They couldn't take it, so they had to see 575 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:33,380 a psychiatrist about it. 576 00:30:33,416 --> 00:30:35,446 Jeffrey Dahmer, the man officially charged 577 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:37,200 in four murderers in Milwaukee 578 00:30:37,233 --> 00:30:39,173 but at the center of nearly a dozen others, 579 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:43,270 confessed to more killings Monday. 580 00:30:43,300 --> 00:30:50,000 And by July 24th, we had a full confession for 17 murders. 581 00:30:50,033 --> 00:30:55,283 ♪♪ 582 00:30:55,316 --> 00:30:59,126 Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, 583 00:30:59,166 --> 00:31:02,326 we now begin an odyssey. 584 00:31:02,366 --> 00:31:06,216 The details are grisly and graphic and sickening. 585 00:31:06,250 --> 00:31:10,230 Jeffrey Dahmer's odyssey of sex, murder and cannibalism 586 00:31:10,266 --> 00:31:14,196 is unfolding in an Milwaukee courtroom. 587 00:31:14,233 --> 00:31:16,023 McCann: In this case, his plea 588 00:31:16,050 --> 00:31:18,080 was not guilty by reason of insanity, 589 00:31:18,116 --> 00:31:21,266 so the only issue was, "Was he sane when he did it?" 590 00:31:21,300 --> 00:31:24,130 Jackson: The foundation of an insanity defense is, 591 00:31:24,166 --> 00:31:26,216 does the defendant know right from wrong? 592 00:31:26,250 --> 00:31:27,330 And clearly, in this case, 593 00:31:27,366 --> 00:31:30,026 Jeffrey Dahmer did know right from wrong because, 594 00:31:30,066 --> 00:31:32,116 "A," he elaborately planned these crimes, 595 00:31:32,150 --> 00:31:35,220 and, "B," he elaborately covered them up. 596 00:31:35,250 --> 00:31:41,330 Cold-blooded planning for sexual satisfaction. 597 00:31:41,366 --> 00:31:44,166 "Your life for my sexual satisfaction." 598 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:47,430 I pointed out how carefully everything had been planned. 599 00:31:47,466 --> 00:31:49,426 He was not a man out of control. 600 00:31:49,466 --> 00:31:52,366 The manifestations of homicidal maniac, 601 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:54,430 he did not show. 602 00:31:54,466 --> 00:31:59,266 Boyle: I tried to persuade them that somewhere along the line, 603 00:31:59,300 --> 00:32:04,480 he got to the point where he was unable to control his conduct. 604 00:32:05,016 --> 00:32:11,146 He was a runaway train on a track of madness. 605 00:32:11,183 --> 00:32:13,483 There was a locomotive engineer running the train. 606 00:32:14,016 --> 00:32:18,296 It wasn't out of control, and the engineer was Dahmer. 607 00:32:18,333 --> 00:32:22,253 To show that Jeffrey Dahmer was mentally ill and out of control, 608 00:32:22,283 --> 00:32:27,133 his defense attorney puts Tracy Edwards on the stand. 609 00:32:27,166 --> 00:32:29,196 Reporter 5: Tracy Edwards lived to tell about it, 610 00:32:29,233 --> 00:32:31,353 and tell he did in court Friday, 611 00:32:31,383 --> 00:32:34,003 describing how Jeffrey Dahmer underwent 612 00:32:34,033 --> 00:32:36,203 an almost physical transformation 613 00:32:36,233 --> 00:32:39,073 from nice guy to would-be killer. 614 00:32:39,100 --> 00:32:41,080 Man: Now, when you got to his apartment, 615 00:32:41,116 --> 00:32:42,276 how was he acting? 616 00:32:42,316 --> 00:32:46,026 Just like a normal everyday person, you know, friendly. 617 00:32:46,066 --> 00:32:48,016 This guy is so nice, and all of a sudden, you know, 618 00:32:48,050 --> 00:32:51,450 it's like, he's pulling knives and handcuffs and all on me. 619 00:32:54,300 --> 00:32:57,070 Where was the knife pointed? 620 00:32:57,100 --> 00:32:58,330 When I was on the floor, he had it pointed 621 00:32:58,366 --> 00:33:01,346 at my groin area at that time. 622 00:33:01,383 --> 00:33:03,353 Then he was telling -- he didn't want people to leave him 623 00:33:03,383 --> 00:33:05,203 or abandon him. 624 00:33:08,350 --> 00:33:11,170 His face structure seemed different. 625 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:12,430 You know, his body structure, 626 00:33:12,466 --> 00:33:15,166 it's like it wasn't him anymore, you know? 627 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:18,100 It's like it was a totally different guy there. 628 00:33:18,133 --> 00:33:19,203 He kind of laid across me, 629 00:33:19,233 --> 00:33:21,433 put his head across my chest at that point. 630 00:33:21,466 --> 00:33:23,396 What was he doing with his head? 631 00:33:23,433 --> 00:33:26,233 Like he was listening to my heart because at a point, 632 00:33:26,266 --> 00:33:28,446 he told me he was gonna eat my heart at that point. 633 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:34,420 I just sat stunned and motionless 634 00:33:34,450 --> 00:33:37,170 listening to all these things, but inside, 635 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:41,100 I was practically losing my cookies. 636 00:33:43,083 --> 00:33:45,353 Banfield: The whole trial took less than three weeks, 637 00:33:45,383 --> 00:33:46,433 and as is customary, 638 00:33:46,466 --> 00:33:49,046 he got a chance to address his victims, 639 00:33:49,083 --> 00:33:51,253 and his victims' family members 640 00:33:51,283 --> 00:33:55,123 got a chance to let him know how they felt, too. 641 00:33:55,150 --> 00:33:57,120 Jeffrey, I hate you. 642 00:33:57,150 --> 00:33:59,470 [Bleep] [Bleep] I hate you! 643 00:34:04,366 --> 00:34:09,146 ♪♪ 644 00:34:09,183 --> 00:34:12,423 "In regard to the death of Richard Guerrero, 645 00:34:12,450 --> 00:34:15,320 did the defendant, Jeffrey L. Dahmer, 646 00:34:15,350 --> 00:34:18,000 have a mental disease?" 647 00:34:18,033 --> 00:34:20,003 The families were very emotional. 648 00:34:20,033 --> 00:34:24,233 This was three weeks of hearing the most awful information 649 00:34:24,266 --> 00:34:26,396 about how your loved one died 650 00:34:26,433 --> 00:34:30,483 that most of us can't even imagine it, 651 00:34:31,016 --> 00:34:34,126 and now, the end is coming. 652 00:34:34,166 --> 00:34:36,316 Judge Gram, Jr.: "Did the defendant, Jeffrey L. Dahmer, 653 00:34:36,350 --> 00:34:38,250 have a mental disease? 654 00:34:38,283 --> 00:34:41,253 Answer -- no." 655 00:34:44,016 --> 00:34:45,276 Jeffrey Dahmer's 3-week sanity trial 656 00:34:45,316 --> 00:34:47,316 came to an end this afternoon. 657 00:34:47,350 --> 00:34:49,380 Most of the jurors rejected the defense claim 658 00:34:49,416 --> 00:34:52,096 that Dahmer was a sick man. 659 00:34:55,050 --> 00:34:57,250 Judge Gram, Jr.: "In regard to the death 660 00:34:57,283 --> 00:34:58,473 of James E. Doxtator..." 661 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:00,430 Schwartz: When the judge was reading the decision 662 00:35:00,466 --> 00:35:02,146 by the jury, 663 00:35:02,183 --> 00:35:08,133 he went through every victim's name and then said the decision. 664 00:35:08,166 --> 00:35:11,296 Judge Gram, Jr.: "In regard to the death of Anthony Sears..." 665 00:35:11,333 --> 00:35:14,153 Schwartz: The families would just weep. 666 00:35:14,183 --> 00:35:15,353 Harris: I was there. 667 00:35:15,383 --> 00:35:18,153 I was sitting in with the rest of the families, 668 00:35:18,183 --> 00:35:21,083 and I think we all were in shock that day. 669 00:35:21,116 --> 00:35:26,126 ♪♪ 670 00:35:26,166 --> 00:35:28,326 And then came the victim impact statements. 671 00:35:30,133 --> 00:35:33,103 You took my 17-year-old son away from me. 672 00:35:33,133 --> 00:35:36,123 I'll never get a chance to tell him that I loved him, 673 00:35:36,150 --> 00:35:39,050 and for that, I can never forgive you. 674 00:35:39,083 --> 00:35:41,123 I hope you -- 675 00:35:41,150 --> 00:35:44,120 I hope you can deal with what you've done. 676 00:35:44,150 --> 00:35:46,170 Schwartz: Dahmer didn't look at the people. 677 00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:48,330 He looked straight ahead the whole time. 678 00:35:48,366 --> 00:35:49,466 I'm mad. 679 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,430 This is how you act when you are out of control! 680 00:35:52,466 --> 00:35:55,226 For the most part, the family members 681 00:35:55,266 --> 00:35:57,366 who gave their victims' impact statements 682 00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,080 maintained their composure, 683 00:35:59,116 --> 00:36:04,346 but then one of the sisters of Errol Lindsey let loose. 684 00:36:04,383 --> 00:36:06,373 I don't want to ever see my mother have to go 685 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,330 through this again, never, Jeffrey. 686 00:36:09,366 --> 00:36:11,426 Jeffrey! I hate you! 687 00:36:11,466 --> 00:36:13,366 This is out of control! 688 00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:16,000 Don't [bleep] with me, Jeffrey! I'll kill -- 689 00:36:16,033 --> 00:36:17,203 Harris: My sister, 690 00:36:17,233 --> 00:36:20,303 I guess she just wanted to let him know how she felt, 691 00:36:20,333 --> 00:36:24,483 you know, to see the hurt on my mom's face every day, 692 00:36:25,016 --> 00:36:27,396 and, I don't know, she just -- she lost it. 693 00:36:27,433 --> 00:36:29,023 She just lost it. 694 00:36:29,050 --> 00:36:30,370 You don't have to... 695 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:32,180 Jackson: So after the families 696 00:36:32,216 --> 00:36:35,146 gave their gut-wrenching victim impact statements, 697 00:36:35,183 --> 00:36:37,333 Jeffrey Dahmer addressed the court. 698 00:36:37,366 --> 00:36:40,376 I know society will never be able to forgive me. 699 00:36:40,416 --> 00:36:42,146 I know the families of the victims 700 00:36:42,183 --> 00:36:45,303 will never be able to forgive me for what I have done. 701 00:36:45,333 --> 00:36:47,103 I have seen their tears, 702 00:36:47,133 --> 00:36:48,453 and if I could give my life right now 703 00:36:48,483 --> 00:36:51,423 to bring their loved ones back, I would do it. 704 00:36:51,450 --> 00:36:53,220 I am so very sorry. 705 00:36:53,250 --> 00:36:58,030 He was just a person who had descended into another world 706 00:36:58,066 --> 00:37:00,166 and had no emotion left 707 00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:03,000 and no empathy or sympathy for anyone else. 708 00:37:03,033 --> 00:37:05,023 He had gone through a lot of big changes 709 00:37:05,050 --> 00:37:09,150 and was just far off the deep end. 710 00:37:09,183 --> 00:37:11,273 I know my time in prison will be terrible, 711 00:37:11,300 --> 00:37:14,330 but I deserve whatever I get because of what I have done. 712 00:37:14,366 --> 00:37:16,246 I didn't ever want freedom. 713 00:37:16,283 --> 00:37:20,333 Frankly, I wanted death for myself. 714 00:37:20,366 --> 00:37:23,246 Jeffrey Dahmer stood up today in Milwaukee county court 715 00:37:23,283 --> 00:37:26,003 and asked for the maximum, and he got it -- 716 00:37:26,033 --> 00:37:33,053 15 consecutive life sentences, no parole for 936 years. 717 00:37:33,083 --> 00:37:35,433 Schwartz: Dahmer went to prison in '91. 718 00:37:35,466 --> 00:37:38,116 He went to the Columbia Correctional Institution 719 00:37:38,150 --> 00:37:40,020 in Portage, Wisconsin. 720 00:37:40,050 --> 00:37:42,000 It's a maximum-security prison. 721 00:37:42,033 --> 00:37:44,053 Casarez: In prison, Dahmer found God. 722 00:37:44,083 --> 00:37:45,473 He even got baptized. 723 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:49,370 No one really heard about him for nearly three years, 724 00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:53,230 but that all changed one day in 1994. 725 00:37:56,350 --> 00:38:00,050 Jeffrey Dahmer was himself attacked and killed this morning 726 00:38:00,083 --> 00:38:04,273 as he and another inmate were cleaning a prison toilet. 727 00:38:04,300 --> 00:38:07,480 Schwartz: Dahmer was arguably the most high-risk prisoner 728 00:38:08,016 --> 00:38:09,346 at the institution, 729 00:38:09,383 --> 00:38:12,423 and another inmate, Jesse Anderson, 730 00:38:12,450 --> 00:38:14,220 were together cleaning a bathroom. 731 00:38:14,250 --> 00:38:16,320 Christopher Scarver, who was an inmate 732 00:38:16,350 --> 00:38:22,170 who was there for murder, grabbed a barbell from the gym, 733 00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:26,050 went into the bathroom and beat both Jeffrey Dahmer 734 00:38:26,083 --> 00:38:28,273 and Jesse Anderson to death. 735 00:38:28,300 --> 00:38:32,230 Preliminary findings of the pathologist were 736 00:38:32,266 --> 00:38:35,376 that Mr. Dahmer died as a result of blunt-force injury of head. 737 00:38:35,416 --> 00:38:37,296 Jeffrey Dahmer was beaten so badly 738 00:38:37,333 --> 00:38:39,353 that not even the people treating him 739 00:38:39,383 --> 00:38:43,073 knew who he was until after he was pronounced dead. 740 00:38:43,100 --> 00:38:44,350 Casarez: Reactions to Dahmer's death 741 00:38:44,383 --> 00:38:45,423 were what you would expect. 742 00:38:45,450 --> 00:38:48,170 Of course, families of his victims 743 00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:51,020 were relieved that the nightmare was over. 744 00:38:51,050 --> 00:38:52,220 It shows today that he paid 745 00:38:52,250 --> 00:38:55,080 for what he had did to these childrens out here. 746 00:38:55,116 --> 00:38:56,296 I don't feel anything. 747 00:38:56,333 --> 00:38:59,253 I'm numb right now. 748 00:38:59,283 --> 00:39:03,123 Harris: I looked at him with a lot of hate in my heart. 749 00:39:03,150 --> 00:39:04,180 I really hated him. 750 00:39:04,216 --> 00:39:06,116 I hated that man. 751 00:39:06,150 --> 00:39:08,300 I hated him for what he did to our family. 752 00:39:08,333 --> 00:39:11,483 My family has never been the same behind that, 753 00:39:12,016 --> 00:39:14,016 never been the same. 754 00:39:16,283 --> 00:39:22,003 In closing, I just want to say that I hope God has forgiven me. 755 00:39:22,033 --> 00:39:25,073 I know society will never be able to forgive me. 756 00:39:25,100 --> 00:39:27,420 This was a case to tell the world 757 00:39:27,450 --> 00:39:30,270 that I did what I did not for reasons of hate. 758 00:39:30,300 --> 00:39:32,220 I hated no one. 759 00:39:32,250 --> 00:39:35,180 I knew I was sick or evil or both. 760 00:39:37,250 --> 00:39:38,370 Jeffrey Dahmer's defense attorney 761 00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:41,420 hoped his client would be found insane. 762 00:39:41,450 --> 00:39:43,420 That would've landed him in a psychiatric hospital, 763 00:39:43,450 --> 00:39:46,480 where doctors could've studied his urge to kill. 764 00:39:47,016 --> 00:39:49,096 No one ever got to study Dahmer's brain. 765 00:39:49,133 --> 00:39:51,003 A judge ruled against preserving it after his death, 766 00:39:51,033 --> 00:39:53,483 and it was ultimately destroyed. 767 00:39:54,016 --> 00:39:57,016 We'll never know what drove Jeffrey Dahmer to kill, 768 00:39:57,050 --> 00:39:59,070 but even if we did, it would've been too late 769 00:39:59,100 --> 00:40:03,200 for 17 families who lost their loved ones. 770 00:40:03,233 --> 00:40:04,373 I'm Hill Harper. 771 00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:08,120 We'll see you next time on "How It Really Happened." 62070

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