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Man:
If you were to have a son,
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would you encouragea political career for him?
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Kennedy:
Oh, definitely.
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I would hope he wouldgrow up to be
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if not a politicianin the sense
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of devoting
all of his time,
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I would hope thatwhatever he did do,
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that he would have some senseof responsibility
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for what went on.
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Couric: When you hear him
talk about that,
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do you ever feel
like your choice
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not to pursue a career
in public service
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might have disappointed him?
-No.
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I can't imagine that he would
have said anything different
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being asked that question
under those circumstances.
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You know, he'd always said
that he thought
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everyone should run for office.
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And, listen,
there's a lot of time in life
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to do all sorts
of things.
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♪♪
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♪♪
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Hey, everyone. Welcome to
"How It Really Happened."
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I'm Hill Harper.
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July 17, 1999, we woke up
to shocking news.
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John F. Kennedy Jr.,
his wife Carolyn,
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and her sister Lauren
were missing,
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last seen aboard a private plane
headed for Martha's Vineyard
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with John at the controls.
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Tonight, our examination
into the crash.
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Did the plane malfunction?
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Was it sabotaged?
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Or was John himself
somehow responsible?
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Let's find out
what really happened.
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-How you doing today? All right?
-Good. How are you?
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Man:
How do you think your mother
would have felt about this?
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About this outside?
She would have been amused.
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Kagan:
Here's the latest now on the
search for John F. Kennedy Jr.,
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his wife,
Carolyn Bessette-Kennedy
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and his sister-in-law,
Lauren Bessette.
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The first thing we knew
was the plane was missing,
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and that was really all we knew.
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Tuchman:
He had just gotten his private
pilot's license a year earlier
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and, by all accounts,
just loved to fly.
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Public life and politics
is both serious and fun.
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Man: The U.S. coast guard
is conducting a search
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off of the coast of New York
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extending now
up to Martha's Vineyard.
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They were going to leave
from New Jersey
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and make a pit stop
at Martha's Vineyard
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and then go on to Hyannis Port
for the family wedding.
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The plane is reported
as overdue and missing.
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It's unusual for a private plane
to go missing that long.
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The plane was expected to arrive
in the Hyannis Port area
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or Martha's Vineyard area
around midnight of last night.
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It did not show up.
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I'm honored to be here
in the White House.
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Man: At Philbin Beach
in Massachusetts,
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luggage and what the coast guard
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believes to be parts
of the plane have washed ashore.
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We just did not believe that
the worst could have happened,
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and it was many days
before that was confirmed,
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and for each
and every one of those days,
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I refused to believe that he
was gone until it was official.
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King: Tonight, the victims
of the JFK Jr. plane crash
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have been found
and recovered.
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Investigators are trying to
figure out what went wrong.
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Andersen:
It was so devastating because,
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you know, John was always there,
and there's a reason for that,
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because we never really had
anybody as close to royalty,
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as close to an American Prince,
in a sense,
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as John F. Kennedy Jr.
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Man: John!
Woman: Can we get a shot
looking here, please?
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Cuomo: He understood keenly
how he was perceived
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and what he meant to people,
and it never bittered him,
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which is, like,
almost impossible to believe.
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He would introduce himself
to everyone as John Kennedy.
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"Hi.
My name is John Kennedy,"
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even though the entire world
knew who he was.
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He never had that presumption
of, "Well, you know who I am."
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One of the things that I think
people didn't appreciate John
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was how funny he was.
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There is one other wedding dress
in the world
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exactly like
my wife Carolyn's,
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and I believe it's owned
by Dennis Rodman.
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[ Laughter ]
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Bradley:
He was great with voices.
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He did a dead-on
Schwarzenegger imitation.
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Berman:
There wasn't a big difference
in the way
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John lived
or the way any of us lived.
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I mean, he would go
to his apartment,
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and, you know, he'd be over
in the kitchen
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with a -- you know, some crummy
blender making margaritas.
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Woman:
How come you didn't speak?
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'Cause Carolyn
did all the work,
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so she should do
all the speaking.
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-You're such a good speaker.
-[ Chuckles ]
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He just seemed like, you know,
as normal a guy
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as you could ever be
for being a Kennedy.
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Man: Can you answer
one question, John?
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Mr. Kennedy?
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You can't just answer
one question, if you're happy?
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He didn't have a mean bone
in his body.
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He just didn't.
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What?
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I won't.
[ Chuckles ]
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And he was a very attractive guy
with very attractive qualities.
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I have a pretty normal life,
surprisingly.
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I mean, you know,
every now and then
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sort of strange things
happen.
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When they found the wreckage
of the plane and the bodies,
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I mean, it --
we didn't go home after that
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because the story was still
in full swing.
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There was still a lot of mystery
about what happened,
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and so we stayed far long time
while the NTSB and investigators
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were trying to piece together
what had gone so terribly wrong.
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Just a few months
before the flight,
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John purchased a new plane.
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I ran into JFK Jr. at a wedding
where we had a long
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and very detailed conversation
about aviation.
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I said, "John, lookit.
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The airplane you're thinking
of getting,
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this Piper Saratoga, it's
a very high-performance plane
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but it is easy to kind of,
you know, lose control of
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if you're not really on it.
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My advice to you would be
to buy an A-36,
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which is a very stable
instrument platform.
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Well, that would be my advice,"
which he didn't take.
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The type of plane JFK Jr.
acquired was a Piper Saratoga.
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It's a 300-plus
horsepower engine.
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John's previous airplane,
a Cessna 182,
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was an older airplane.
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It was a little bit less complex
as the Piper Saratoga.
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John Kennedy had been flying
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for I think
approximately 18 months,
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had something over
300 flight hours,
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but this was a new aircraft
that he had purchased
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and he did not have as much
experience in this aircraft
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as he had in the previous
aircraft he had owned.
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In aviation, most accidents
are not a result
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of a single
catastrophic event.
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It's usually a chain
of multiple small events.
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I have a theory which I call
the falling-domino theory.
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So if you could imagine dominos
stacked in a line,
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each domino would represent
a very small event
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that's happening or a problem.
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Lonnstrom:
Once you make one mistake,
that leads to another mistake,
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which leads to another mistake,
which leads to another mistake.
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We call it falling
behind the curve.
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Bailey: In John's case,
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there was
less than a dozen events
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that would represent
each domino or a problem.
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Once one of these dominos
start to fall,
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they're taking
everything with it,
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and the end result
would be catastrophe.
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And that's what happened here.
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Carolyn called me
from the emergency room.
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She was upset, and she was not
someone who would cry
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and get upset all the time,
so I knew it was bad.
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This magazine has always been an
exploration of political issues,
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and it's a way to engage
the political process.
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In the weeks leading up
to this flight that he took,
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John had a lot of stress
in his life.
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Terenzio:
John had a meeting with
the publisher of the magazine,
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and they said that they were not
going to continue
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their partnership with him,
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and he was starting
to look for funding elsewhere.
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If somebody else would have
picked upGeorge
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I think we would have moved,
but it was uncertain.
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Terenzio:
It was a tough time for John,
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but I think especially stressful
for John was Anthony's illness.
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Anthony Radziwill
was John's cousin,
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and they were like brothers.
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They were closer than any --
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probably any family member
of John's is -- was to him.
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I think John was having
a very hard time
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dealing with the fact
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that Anthony was probably
going to die soon.
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Radziwill: And the doctors
basically said
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there's really nothing more
that they can do
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and suggested just going
somewhere as peaceful
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and quiet and enjoyable,
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and we decided then to spend
the summer at the vineyard
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in John and Carolyn's house,
and that's where we were.
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Memorial Day weekend,
John had his new toy.
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I called it a flying lawnmower.
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It kind of looked like
a sit-down lawnmower
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with a parachute.
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Man: You want to knock out
a couple 360s for me?
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-Sure.
-Good.
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We'll bring it down.
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Andersen:
He brings it in just over
the tops of the trees
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and in for a very,
very rough landing.
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And, unfortunately,
he broke his ankle.
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What happened to
your foot, here?
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You're in a cast
this evening.
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Yeah, I'm in a cast.
I broke my ankle.
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It's the first weekend
of the summer,
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and I'm laid up
for a couple weeks.
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Terenzio: John was so active,
and especially in the summer,
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doing things outdoors.
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You know, it sucked for him.
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Radziwill: Carolyn called me
from the emergency room.
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She was upset, and she was
not someone who would cry
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and get upset all the time,
so I knew it was bad,
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and she was very worried
about him.
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It was just going to be
a lot to handle
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on top of everything else
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that we were dealing with
that summer.
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Amanpour: I spent
the last weekend of his life
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with him at his estate
in Martha's Vineyard.
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And when we left, I know John
was going on to Canada
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to try to drum up
some more money
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and advertising
and support forGeorge.
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And he said, "Next week,
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I'm going to my cousin's wedding
in Hyannis Port, Rory,
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but why don't you all come up
the following week?"
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So we said, "Okay," and,
"Great, lovely. Bye."
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And we all waved,
and I still remember him waving
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and walking across to his plane
on the tarmac.
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My partner, Michael Berman,
and I startedGeorge
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and bring a fresh new style
to the way we cover politics.
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Terenzio: The week
leading up to the accident,
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there was a lot going on.
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He was working a lot of hours,
and he was not home a lot,
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and Carolyn, I think,
was feeling a little fatigued
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by all of the pressures,
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and she really wanted
some downtime with John.
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And I think it was
frustrating to her
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that she didn't see a light
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at the end of the tunnel
in terms of,
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"When are we ever just
going to be a married couple
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who can hang out
and spend time together?"
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And she wasn't going to go
to the wedding.
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I said, "Look, this is going to
look really bad for John
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if you don't show up
at the wedding.
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People talk enough about you
guys and about what's going on
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and what's not
going on with you,
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and I just think
you have to go.
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His whole family's
going to be there,
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and I think you have to go."
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And she said okay.
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[ Voice breaking ]
I don't know for sure
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if she wouldn't have gone.
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I like to think she would
have anyway, but I'll --
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I'll never feel good about
having had that conversation.
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Man:
How is everything?
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Everything is wonderful.
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[ Chuckles ]
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Andersen:
The plan was that John was going
to fly with Carolyn
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to his cousin Rory's wedding
in Hyannis Port,
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and they were going to
take Carolyn's sister Lauren
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and drop her off
in Martha's Vineyard.
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Lonnstrom: An instructor offered
to go with him,
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and John turned him down,
and he said,
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"No, I want
to do this alone."
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Quest: Until now, most of John's
flying, certainly at night,
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had been with an instructor.
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If the aircraft
had become unstable,
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if the horizon had been lost,
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if they were
in challenging circumstances,
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the instructor
would've taken over
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or would have guided John
in the flying of the aircraft.
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They'd be alive today.
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Bailey: JFK Jr. made that trip
countless times on Friday night
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and then returned
on Sunday night.
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There was no reason to be
concerned about him
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flying up that night.
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Quest:
However, he's seen boarding
the plane with crutches,
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and it immediately
raises the question,
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"Was he in a fit state
to manipulate the --
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the rudder controls
on the plane?"
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King: That still exists, that
togetherness in the Kennedys?
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-Yeah.
-It doesn't go away, right?
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No, it's one
of the great lucky things
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about being in my family,
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which I am --
which has stayed.
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Radziwill:
That Friday, they were going to
a wedding in Hyannis,
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and Carolyn's sister Lauren
had decided
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she was going to spend
the weekend in the vineyard,
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and they were going to drop
her off on the way to Hyannis.
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But they never made it.
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Andersen: It was a hot Friday.
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John was working in his office
in Times Square,
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the offices ofGeorge.
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That last day was, in many ways,
an ordinary summer Friday.
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I had lunch with John,
and it was a nice lunch,
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although you could tell that
John was a little bit tired.
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And we walked back
to the office,
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and we were talking about plans
for the weekend,
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and John told me
that he was going to be
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flying to Hyannis Port,
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and...
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I was a little concerned.
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And I made a joke.
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I said to John --
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I said,
"John, just don't crash, okay?
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Because we need you."
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[ Chuckles ]
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I wish I could take it back.
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I wish that I could have said
instead,
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"John, I wish maybe
you should just let
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somebody drive you up
this time.
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It's been a long week.
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I know you're a little tired.
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I know your foot hurts.
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Just be careful, okay?"
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Terenzio: The plan was that John
was going to meet Lauren,
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Carolyn's sister,
in the lobby of the building,
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and then Carolyn was going
to meet them at the airport.
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He got out of the office
later than he wanted to.
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There was traffic.
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Arnot:
I remember it was the worst
traffic I had seen in 20 years.
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I mean,
it was unbelievably bad.
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He had expected to leave
in daylight
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and, of course,
ended up leaving in twilight.
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They actually arrived
an hour later
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than they had planned
at the airport.
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Man:
With us right now is a pilot
who was also flying in his plane
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to Martha's Vineyard
last night,
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coincidentally happened
to see John F. Kennedy
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get on his plane
and watch his plane take off.
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This is Kyle Bailey.
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He got to the airport probably
around 8:00-ish, 8:10 P.M.
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very inconspicuous --
white t-shirt, casual clothing.
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Did he have crutches?
'Cause he had an injury.
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I thought I saw one crutch,
and I saw him limping.
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Quest: He's seen boarding
the plane on the night,
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the Friday night,
with crutches,
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and it immediately
raises the question,
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"Was he in a fit state
to manipulate the --
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the rudder controls
on the plane?"
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That turns the plane left
and turns the plane right.
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We don't know, is the short
answer, of what effect,
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if any,
this had on what happened.
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Bailey:
He actually did do a run-up
on the airplane,
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which is he was checking
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the various components
of the airplane,
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making sure the engine
was functioning properly.
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It struck me
as a little bit odd.
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What went through my mind
was maybe possibly
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he was checking
a previous problem,
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perhaps,
that he had on the airplane.
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My plans that Friday
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were to fly to Martha's Vineyard
in my aircraft.
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I decided to scrub my plans
that night
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because of the reduced
visibility conditions.
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JFK Jr. did check the weather
that evening,
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and the report was roughly
nine miles of visibility.
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Now, the actual weather
was nowhere near that.
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We know from other pilots
that were flying that same route
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and that same air space that the
haze and the mist was very bad.
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Arnot:
The basic discrepancy was this.
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There were two
different systems.
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There was an automatic system
which misgauged the weather
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and led forecasters
to say nine miles visibility.
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In aviation terms,
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the weather forecast
that JFK Jr. got
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was just plain wrong,
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and it's that forecast
that accounted for his death.
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[ Camera shutter clicks ]
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Radziwill: Carolyn called me
from the plane
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right before
they were taking off,
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and I think it was probably
a little bit after 8:00.
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I don't remember anything
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really important
from that conversation.
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I didn't certainly think
it would be the last time
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I would speak to my friend.
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I remember at the end she said,
you know, "I love you."
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And I -- for some reason,
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I didn't say,
"I love you," back,
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and that always stuck with me,
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and she said,
"I'll call you when I land,"
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and then that was the last
I ever heard from her or anyone.
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It wasn't until 8:38
that they took off.
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Camerota: The NTSB report,
which was issued later,
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tells us a little bit
about what happened.
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The tower controller issues
a takeoff clearance.
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John acknowledges the takeoff
clearance and then, it says,
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"A few seconds later, the tower
controller asked the pilot
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if he was heading
towards Teterboro,
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to which he applied 'No, sir.
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Actually, I'm heading
a little north of it eastbound."
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00:18:34,350 --> 00:18:36,180
"The tower controller then
instructed the pilot
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to make a right
downwind departure.
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This was acknowledged
by the pilot at 2038:56.
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There was no record of
any further communications
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between the pilot
and air traffic control."
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So we thought that that was
the last time
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that anyone had spoken to John,
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but it turns out
that might not be true.
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Bailey: All the way at the end
of the NTSB accident report,
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we have two witness statements.
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So that evening,
I overheard an aircraft calling,
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which I thought was calling
Republic operations
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and ended up being
Martha's Vineyard's operations.
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I had not heard
about these before.
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These appear likely to be
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the very last transmissions
of JFK Jr.
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This is going to be
your life --
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editing, publishing,
magazines, writing?
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Is that it?
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00:19:27,050 --> 00:19:29,380
Well, I mean, starting
a magazine is a huge enterprise,
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and it's
enormously exciting.
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00:19:31,233 --> 00:19:32,483
This is what we're doing,
you know, and --
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For the time being,
or you want to stay with it?
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Well, I would hate to say
I'm going to do anything
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00:19:36,450 --> 00:19:38,450
till I'm 70,
but I'm going to be doing this
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for the foreseeable future.
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Hey, everyone. Welcome back to
"How It Really Happened."
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Friday evening, July 16th,
John Kennedy Jr.
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boarded his Piper Saratoga along
with his passengers in the back,
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his wife, Carolyn,
and her sister, Lauren.
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They intended to make a short
flight to Martha's Vineyard.
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We now know extraordinary
details about what happened
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during their one hour
and three minutes in the air.
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Check it out.
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♪♪
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♪♪
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Andersen: At 8:38, he took off
with Carolyn and Lauren
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aboard the plane and headed
towards Martha's Vineyard.
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He takes off, and he heads
basically northeast.
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00:20:37,183 --> 00:20:40,073
Andersen:
We learned later that John's
plane came uncomfortably close
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to an American Airlines
passenger jet.
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As he passes over white plains,
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the pilot of that jet is warned
by air traffic controllers
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that this small aircraft
is near him
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00:20:51,016 --> 00:20:52,266
and that he should
pay attention.
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00:20:52,300 --> 00:20:54,130
They didn't come
close enough to crash,
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00:20:54,166 --> 00:20:56,316
but they came close enough
to scare everybody.
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00:20:56,350 --> 00:20:58,050
The pilot of
the American Airlines
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says to the controller
at LaGuardia,
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00:20:59,483 --> 00:21:01,433
"That plane's not talking
to anybody?"
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00:21:01,466 --> 00:21:04,096
And the LaGuardia guy says, "No,
he's not talking to anybody."
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00:21:04,133 --> 00:21:05,373
And he never did.
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00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:07,280
You can imagine if he had
this kind of trouble
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00:21:07,316 --> 00:21:09,146
navigating
early in the flight,
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00:21:09,183 --> 00:21:12,433
he might have trouble
later in the flight.
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00:21:12,466 --> 00:21:16,166
Then he continued
along the Connecticut coastline
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00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:18,120
and then
the Rhode Island coastline,
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and then rather than continuing
along the coast,
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where he would have been able to
see the ground and be oriented,
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00:21:24,366 --> 00:21:28,246
he went directly out over
the ocean to Martha's Vineyard.
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00:21:28,283 --> 00:21:30,133
Between Point Judith
and Martha's Vineyard,
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00:21:30,166 --> 00:21:33,346
you have this black,
inky air space over open water
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where there would have been
no clues at all.
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00:21:36,016 --> 00:21:38,076
There was no land to see.
There were no lights.
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00:21:38,116 --> 00:21:40,316
There was nothing.
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And at that point,
he's made a fatal error.
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At the end
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of the National Transportation
Safety Board report,
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we have these
two very interesting
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and odd witness statements.
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Camerota: These witness reports
are extraordinary
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because they reveal something
that none of us knew before,
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00:21:59,083 --> 00:22:02,383
and that is that
there may have been people
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who spoke to John
right before he crashed.
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Arnot:
"Mr. Lagudi is employed
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at Republic Airport,
Farmingdale, New York.
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00:22:13,150 --> 00:22:14,430
On the night of the accident,
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approximately 21:20
eastern daylight time," or 9:20,
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00:22:20,050 --> 00:22:25,370
"He was monitoring the UNICOM
frequency 122.95 megahertz.
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What a UNICOM frequency is,
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is generally
a fixed-base operator,
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or a person who handles,
say, the fueling of the airplane
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or unloading baggage
of the airplane.
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00:22:34,233 --> 00:22:35,353
Camerota:
"During that time,
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Mr. Perez heard several
transmissions from a pilot
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that used a call sign similar
to November 9253 November."
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Arnot: "During a period
of approximately 10 minutes,
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the pilot attempted to contact
'someone at Martha's Vineyard.'"
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Bailey: "One last transmission
was heard.
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The pilot stated,
'We're not going to make it
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00:22:56,216 --> 00:22:59,466
if we don't get a hold
of the facility.'"
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In July of 1999, I was
working at Republic Airport
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00:23:03,050 --> 00:23:05,020
in Farmingdale, New York,
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00:23:05,050 --> 00:23:07,180
in the crash-fire rescue
division at the airport.
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00:23:07,216 --> 00:23:10,046
[ Radio chatter ]
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00:23:10,083 --> 00:23:12,303
We had this radio on our desk
all the time,
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00:23:12,333 --> 00:23:14,423
and it was very common that
we had the flights in and out,
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and you'd hear all sorts
of radio traffic,
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00:23:17,366 --> 00:23:21,076
you know, not just calling
Republic operations.
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00:23:21,116 --> 00:23:23,346
That evening,
I overheard an aircraft
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00:23:23,383 --> 00:23:26,133
calling which I thought was
calling Republic operations
484
00:23:26,166 --> 00:23:30,016
and ended up being
Martha's Vineyard's operations.
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00:23:30,050 --> 00:23:32,350
And, you know, over the next
10, 15 minutes,
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you know, there was
more repeated calls,
487
00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:37,170
and not that it was frantic
or anything like that,
488
00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:40,100
this wasn't any
kind of distress call,
489
00:23:40,133 --> 00:23:41,483
but after
that 15-minute period,
490
00:23:42,016 --> 00:23:43,446
you could kind of hear the tone
of the voice
491
00:23:43,483 --> 00:23:46,233
just kind of maybe getting
a little bit more annoyed,
492
00:23:46,266 --> 00:23:48,396
but definitely some
type of frustration in there,
493
00:23:48,433 --> 00:23:49,403
so I called back.
494
00:23:49,433 --> 00:23:50,453
I was just like, you know,
495
00:23:50,483 --> 00:23:52,253
"Aircraft, we're calling
Martha's Vineyard.
496
00:23:52,283 --> 00:23:53,453
This is Republic airport,
again."
497
00:23:53,483 --> 00:23:56,153
You know, "Is -- anything
I could help you with?"
498
00:23:56,183 --> 00:23:59,003
And just a general statement,
cool, calm and collect was,
499
00:23:59,033 --> 00:24:01,283
"Yeah, we're just trying to
reach Martha's Vineyard to let,
500
00:24:01,316 --> 00:24:02,476
you know,
our people know that
501
00:24:03,016 --> 00:24:04,316
we're not going to
make the airport."
502
00:24:04,350 --> 00:24:08,000
I looked up the phone number for
Martha's Vineyard's operation.
503
00:24:08,033 --> 00:24:10,033
There was no answer
at that phone number.
504
00:24:10,066 --> 00:24:12,166
I think I ended up calling,
like, two or three times
505
00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:15,220
and just didn't get an answer.
506
00:24:15,250 --> 00:24:18,200
At this point, I wrote down the
tail number just out of habit.
507
00:24:18,233 --> 00:24:19,323
Any time we pick up a radio,
508
00:24:19,350 --> 00:24:21,330
we'd always kind of
just jot it down.
509
00:24:21,366 --> 00:24:23,146
That was it.
510
00:24:23,183 --> 00:24:27,033
I didn't find out what happened
until about 3:30 the next day
511
00:24:27,066 --> 00:24:28,266
showing back up for work,
512
00:24:28,300 --> 00:24:30,450
getting ready to relieve
the day crew.
513
00:24:30,483 --> 00:24:33,083
You know, they were like,
"Oh, did you hear what happened?
514
00:24:33,116 --> 00:24:34,376
JFK Jr.'s plane is missing."
515
00:24:34,416 --> 00:24:36,016
And it's like,
"Oh, yeah? Oh."
516
00:24:36,050 --> 00:24:39,320
Still at this point, no,
you know, alarm or concern.
517
00:24:39,350 --> 00:24:42,250
The desperate hunt
for John F. Kennedy Jr.
518
00:24:42,283 --> 00:24:44,073
continues at this hour.
519
00:24:44,100 --> 00:24:46,420
17 miles offshore
was the last contact
520
00:24:46,450 --> 00:24:48,130
with the Kennedy plane.
521
00:24:48,166 --> 00:24:49,326
Lagudi: But it wasn't until
later that evening
522
00:24:49,366 --> 00:24:51,276
we started watching
the news on TV,
523
00:24:51,316 --> 00:24:55,346
and then the news had shown
an actual picture of his plane
524
00:24:55,383 --> 00:24:58,023
from the side
that showed his tail number.
525
00:24:58,050 --> 00:24:59,330
And the gentleman
that I was working with,
526
00:24:59,366 --> 00:25:01,216
he looked at me,
and I looked at him,
527
00:25:01,250 --> 00:25:04,220
and the tail number
kind of rang a bell.
528
00:25:04,250 --> 00:25:06,080
We pulled out the paper
out of the garbage,
529
00:25:06,116 --> 00:25:09,116
and, sure enough,
the tail numbers matched.
530
00:25:09,150 --> 00:25:10,270
It was a bit of a shock,
you know?
531
00:25:10,300 --> 00:25:13,100
It was like, "Oh, my God."
532
00:25:13,133 --> 00:25:16,323
As it turns out,
the UNICOM radio frequency
533
00:25:16,350 --> 00:25:20,470
that these guys were monitoring
is the same radio frequency
534
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:24,020
that they use at
the Martha's Vineyard airport.
535
00:25:24,050 --> 00:25:27,420
So it is feasible that the voice
that they heard
536
00:25:27,450 --> 00:25:29,420
and the person that they were
listening to
537
00:25:29,450 --> 00:25:31,330
was John Jr. that night.
538
00:25:31,366 --> 00:25:32,426
Quest: He said, "It's likely
539
00:25:32,466 --> 00:25:36,276
we're not going to make
Martha's Vineyard."
540
00:25:36,316 --> 00:25:38,476
And we don't really know
what it means.
541
00:25:39,016 --> 00:25:41,266
It's there.
It's hanging there.
542
00:25:41,300 --> 00:25:43,050
But if you look at the timing
of it,
543
00:25:43,083 --> 00:25:45,003
it's about 20 minutes or so
544
00:25:45,033 --> 00:25:47,153
before he starts
his final descent.
545
00:25:47,183 --> 00:25:49,433
I had not heard
about these before.
546
00:25:49,466 --> 00:25:52,146
These appear likely to be
547
00:25:52,183 --> 00:25:56,133
the very last transmissions
of JFK Jr.
548
00:25:58,333 --> 00:26:04,283
What is fascinating is that
the line between total success
549
00:26:04,316 --> 00:26:07,466
and absolute catastrophe
is very narrow.
550
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,370
Radziwill: I'm calling
John's friend in Hyannis
551
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:12,230
and screaming
into the phone,
552
00:26:12,266 --> 00:26:16,046
"Please, you have to find
somebody in John's family
553
00:26:16,083 --> 00:26:18,173
to tell them what's going on."
554
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,470
Woman: I was wondering, John,
what aspect of your personality
555
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:28,250
do you credit
your mother the most
556
00:26:28,283 --> 00:26:30,033
for having instilled
in you?
557
00:26:30,066 --> 00:26:32,076
I think that there's a sense
of not worrying too much
558
00:26:32,116 --> 00:26:35,416
about things
that you can't control,
559
00:26:35,450 --> 00:26:39,430
just sort of living your life
and doing what you feel
560
00:26:39,466 --> 00:26:42,396
and where your interests
take you.
561
00:26:42,433 --> 00:26:48,223
♪♪
562
00:26:48,250 --> 00:26:52,000
It was a very spooky,
even scary, place to be,
563
00:26:52,033 --> 00:26:54,423
over those waters,
over the vineyard
564
00:26:54,450 --> 00:26:56,220
that particular weekend.
565
00:26:58,450 --> 00:27:02,080
I made a nearly identical flight
to JFK Jr.
566
00:27:02,116 --> 00:27:04,296
at nearly the same time.
567
00:27:04,333 --> 00:27:06,133
We went past Martha's Vineyard,
568
00:27:06,166 --> 00:27:09,216
and I have a device called
a moving map display.
569
00:27:09,250 --> 00:27:11,350
The display said I was
two-and-a-half miles
570
00:27:11,383 --> 00:27:12,423
from Martha's Vineyard.
571
00:27:12,450 --> 00:27:14,070
So without looking out
the window,
572
00:27:14,100 --> 00:27:15,300
I said to my nephew, Tyler,
573
00:27:15,333 --> 00:27:18,153
I said, "Tyler,
there's Martha's Vineyard."
574
00:27:18,183 --> 00:27:21,073
And he goes, "Where?
I don't see anything."
575
00:27:21,100 --> 00:27:23,070
I mean, this is totally
unpredicted.
576
00:27:23,100 --> 00:27:24,430
The weather never said this.
577
00:27:27,100 --> 00:27:30,480
Quest: If you look at what
his instructors said,
578
00:27:31,016 --> 00:27:38,096
John Kennedy was an average
pilot who showed promise,
579
00:27:38,133 --> 00:27:40,033
he showed some skill,
580
00:27:40,066 --> 00:27:43,316
but he was by no means
an exceptional pilot,
581
00:27:43,350 --> 00:27:47,370
and what he encountered
on this Friday night
582
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:53,270
were challenging
flying conditions that took him
583
00:27:53,300 --> 00:27:59,030
to the edge of the envelope
of his experience.
584
00:27:59,066 --> 00:28:00,116
There's two ways to fly.
585
00:28:00,150 --> 00:28:02,180
One is visual,
and the other is instrument.
586
00:28:02,216 --> 00:28:05,076
VFR is visual flight rules.
587
00:28:05,116 --> 00:28:10,046
It literally means flying
by looking out of the window.
588
00:28:10,083 --> 00:28:12,073
You can see the horizon.
589
00:28:12,100 --> 00:28:14,400
You can see where you're going.
590
00:28:14,433 --> 00:28:18,253
IFR, instrument flight rules --
completely different.
591
00:28:18,283 --> 00:28:23,333
This is where you fly only
by using the instruments
592
00:28:23,366 --> 00:28:27,396
because the visibility outside
is either so bad
593
00:28:27,433 --> 00:28:31,133
or it's nighttime
and you have no horizon.
594
00:28:31,166 --> 00:28:32,476
You're over water.
595
00:28:33,016 --> 00:28:34,466
In this situation,
596
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:39,380
you are literally looking
only at the instruments.
597
00:28:39,416 --> 00:28:44,046
John Kennedy, he had done
some training towards IFR,
598
00:28:44,083 --> 00:28:46,253
but he was not qualified
for it.
599
00:28:49,383 --> 00:28:51,353
Lonnstrom:
These weather forecasts
were wrong.
600
00:28:51,383 --> 00:28:53,423
So he actually is
in instrument conditions,
601
00:28:53,450 --> 00:28:55,300
but he doesn't know it.
602
00:28:55,333 --> 00:28:57,353
He needs a horizon to fly.
603
00:28:57,383 --> 00:29:00,283
He's not qualified to fly
with his instruments,
604
00:29:00,316 --> 00:29:02,146
so he needs this horizon,
605
00:29:02,183 --> 00:29:04,433
and he needs to keep that plane
level with that horizon,
606
00:29:04,466 --> 00:29:07,216
and he sees no horizon,
so he can't do that.
607
00:29:07,250 --> 00:29:08,330
It's just pitch black,
608
00:29:08,366 --> 00:29:10,176
and that's where
he lost control.
609
00:29:10,216 --> 00:29:13,326
Andersen: He becomes spatially
disoriented.
610
00:29:13,366 --> 00:29:15,226
You can't tell up from down
or left from right.
611
00:29:15,266 --> 00:29:16,216
You don't know where you are.
612
00:29:16,250 --> 00:29:18,020
Your body is telling you
one thing
613
00:29:18,050 --> 00:29:20,370
when the reality
is something entirely different.
614
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:22,420
[ Radio chatter ]
615
00:29:24,266 --> 00:29:26,416
The inner ear is saying,
616
00:29:26,450 --> 00:29:29,370
"Hang on.
We feel a movement to the left,"
617
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:32,030
but the brain's not seeing
anything like this movement.
618
00:29:32,066 --> 00:29:33,446
The brain's just
seeing nothing,
619
00:29:33,483 --> 00:29:36,353
and now your inner ear
is telling you,
620
00:29:36,383 --> 00:29:38,083
"Hang on.
We're banking left," but, no,
621
00:29:38,116 --> 00:29:39,366
you're banking,
actually, right.
622
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:44,150
What the NTSB suggests happens
is he starts the descent,
623
00:29:44,183 --> 00:29:46,103
and he continues
a normal descent.
624
00:29:46,133 --> 00:29:49,073
Then he does a turn,
then climbs again,
625
00:29:49,100 --> 00:29:51,180
then he does another turn
in the opposite direction,
626
00:29:51,216 --> 00:29:56,226
then he climbs again, and then
he starts a long descent
627
00:29:56,266 --> 00:29:58,446
which gets steeper and steeper
all the way.
628
00:30:01,266 --> 00:30:02,396
Lonnstrom:
There's a natural tendency
629
00:30:02,433 --> 00:30:05,273
when you're descending
to pull back on the yoke
630
00:30:05,300 --> 00:30:07,420
because that makes the plane
go up if you're level.
631
00:30:07,450 --> 00:30:09,400
But if you're already spinning
and you pull back on the yoke,
632
00:30:09,433 --> 00:30:12,303
it puts you
in the graveyard spiral,
633
00:30:12,333 --> 00:30:15,183
and that's what happened to him.
634
00:30:15,216 --> 00:30:21,146
Quest:
What is fascinating is that
the line between total success
635
00:30:21,183 --> 00:30:24,303
and absolute catastrophe
is very narrow.
636
00:30:24,333 --> 00:30:26,433
He could've been lucky
this night,
637
00:30:26,466 --> 00:30:29,346
and he might have just got
one glimpse
638
00:30:29,383 --> 00:30:31,253
of one piece of the horizon
639
00:30:31,283 --> 00:30:35,003
that would have allowed him
to get control of the aircraft
640
00:30:35,033 --> 00:30:39,033
or see where he was going
or manage his flying.
641
00:30:39,066 --> 00:30:43,476
But that line is so narrow,
and, of course,
642
00:30:44,016 --> 00:30:45,246
he fell on the wrong side.
643
00:30:45,283 --> 00:30:48,353
Once he started to pull up,
he had no chance.
644
00:30:48,383 --> 00:30:51,003
During the NTSB investigation,
they looked,
645
00:30:51,033 --> 00:30:52,353
and they said that
the airspeed indicator
646
00:30:52,383 --> 00:30:54,203
was mechanically
at its highest stop,
647
00:30:54,233 --> 00:30:57,173
meaning he was going in
excess of 200 miles an hour.
648
00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:03,480
What we can tell you is that
it was a catastrophic crash.
649
00:31:04,016 --> 00:31:05,466
They know that all three people
650
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:09,350
aboard that plane died
from the impact.
651
00:31:09,383 --> 00:31:13,283
Among the many, many tragic,
heartbreaking ironies
652
00:31:13,316 --> 00:31:16,196
is the fact that John's plane
went down within sight
653
00:31:16,233 --> 00:31:19,383
of his mother's beloved
Red Gate Farm estate
654
00:31:19,416 --> 00:31:20,476
on Martha's Vineyard.
655
00:31:21,016 --> 00:31:24,226
The plane went down
just before 10:00 P.M.,
656
00:31:24,266 --> 00:31:26,066
but it was a number of hours
657
00:31:26,100 --> 00:31:28,280
before anyone realized
that they were missing.
658
00:31:32,166 --> 00:31:34,266
The phone rang at midnight,
659
00:31:34,300 --> 00:31:37,250
and I got this -- this sick
feeling in my stomach,
660
00:31:37,283 --> 00:31:39,203
and it was John's friend Pinkie.
661
00:31:39,233 --> 00:31:42,303
And he said, you know,
"Are they there with you?
662
00:31:42,333 --> 00:31:44,483
I'm at the airport,
and they're not here."
663
00:31:45,016 --> 00:31:50,176
And then -- and then I thought,
"Oh [bleep]"
664
00:31:50,216 --> 00:31:53,046
And I just bolted out of bed.
665
00:31:56,066 --> 00:32:00,066
I spent 15 years as a journalist
and producer at ABC News,
666
00:32:00,100 --> 00:32:02,250
and I thought,
"Okay, I need to, like,
667
00:32:02,283 --> 00:32:04,323
figure out this story
and solve it somehow.
668
00:32:04,350 --> 00:32:07,350
I need to figure out where they
are because they're somewhere."
669
00:32:07,383 --> 00:32:10,483
One call led to another
to another to another,
670
00:32:11,016 --> 00:32:14,476
and I called the Hyannis airport
many times
671
00:32:15,016 --> 00:32:17,326
'cause I assumed
that they had made a mistake.
672
00:32:17,366 --> 00:32:20,126
And the whole time,
I'm calling John's friend
673
00:32:20,166 --> 00:32:22,076
and screaming into the phone,
674
00:32:22,116 --> 00:32:25,466
"Please, you have to find
somebody in John's family
675
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,050
to tell them what's going on."
676
00:32:30,250 --> 00:32:34,080
It was probably between
2:00 or 3:00 when I realized
677
00:32:34,116 --> 00:32:37,446
I had to call the coast guard
and report John's plane missing.
678
00:32:37,483 --> 00:32:42,173
I said, "My cousin is missing,"
and then he took the name,
679
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,070
and I think there was
a little bit of a --
680
00:32:44,100 --> 00:32:48,100
like, a gasp
on the other end of the phone.
681
00:32:48,133 --> 00:32:50,203
Andersen: The NTSB launched
an investigation
682
00:32:50,233 --> 00:32:51,423
following the crash,
and they discovered
683
00:32:51,450 --> 00:32:53,230
that there was something
actually on the plane
684
00:32:53,266 --> 00:32:55,076
that could've saved his life.
685
00:32:59,033 --> 00:33:01,253
We'll be including your calls
for John F. Ken--
686
00:33:01,283 --> 00:33:03,253
Do you still use the junior?
-No.
687
00:33:03,283 --> 00:33:06,303
I mean,
but I don't not use it.
688
00:33:06,333 --> 00:33:08,083
You use the initials?
689
00:33:08,116 --> 00:33:10,396
Sometimes,
but generally not.
690
00:33:10,433 --> 00:33:12,253
You're your own man,
aren't you, John?
691
00:33:12,283 --> 00:33:14,483
You want your own bewilderment.
We'll be right back.
692
00:33:15,016 --> 00:33:16,346
He's in the right business,
media.
693
00:33:16,383 --> 00:33:18,323
We'll be right back.
Don't go way.
694
00:33:22,033 --> 00:33:24,153
Larrabee: We found the airplane
at a location
695
00:33:24,183 --> 00:33:27,483
southwest
of Martha's Vineyard.
696
00:33:28,016 --> 00:33:30,096
Hall: In excess of 70%
of the aircraft
697
00:33:30,133 --> 00:33:33,153
was brought up to the surface
by the United States Navy,
698
00:33:33,183 --> 00:33:36,453
done under the close examination
and supervision
699
00:33:36,483 --> 00:33:40,383
of the board investigators.
700
00:33:40,416 --> 00:33:43,446
Larrabee: The plane was in
pretty tough shape.
701
00:33:43,483 --> 00:33:46,283
The engine had been driven
back into the cockpit.
702
00:33:46,316 --> 00:33:49,246
It looked like it almost
had gone in nose-first.
703
00:33:49,283 --> 00:33:52,083
Well, these propellers
hit the water with such force
704
00:33:52,116 --> 00:33:55,426
that they were bent
into a curve.
705
00:33:55,466 --> 00:34:00,066
Hall: Investigators oversaw
the transfer of the wreckage
706
00:34:00,100 --> 00:34:01,400
to a hangar on shore
707
00:34:01,433 --> 00:34:05,423
and a thorough additional
investigation of the aircraft
708
00:34:05,450 --> 00:34:08,170
took place that time.
709
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:10,280
Andersen: The NTSB launched
an investigation
710
00:34:10,316 --> 00:34:12,016
following the crash,
and they discovered
711
00:34:12,050 --> 00:34:13,320
there was something
actually on the plane
712
00:34:13,350 --> 00:34:17,350
that could've saved his life.
713
00:34:17,383 --> 00:34:21,223
Arnot: JFK Jr.'s airplane was
a very sophisticated aircraft,
714
00:34:21,250 --> 00:34:25,070
and it had an autopilot.
715
00:34:25,100 --> 00:34:28,330
Bailey: So the question that was
on everybody's mind was,
716
00:34:28,366 --> 00:34:30,346
"If he could just push one
or two buttons,
717
00:34:30,383 --> 00:34:33,223
why did this incident happen?"
718
00:34:33,250 --> 00:34:35,430
Quest:
We know from previous flights,
719
00:34:35,466 --> 00:34:38,126
that John Kennedy
has played around with this
720
00:34:38,166 --> 00:34:41,426
with his flight instructor,
but he has not used it before.
721
00:34:44,333 --> 00:34:46,223
Arnot: So one of
the greatest tragedies here
722
00:34:46,250 --> 00:34:49,170
is that there was that fully
functioning autopilot
723
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:52,080
in the aircraft
that could've saved his life,
724
00:34:52,116 --> 00:34:54,266
saved the lives of those
two young women,
725
00:34:54,300 --> 00:34:56,180
and yet it wasn't engaged.
726
00:34:56,216 --> 00:34:58,026
It seems crazy.
727
00:35:00,100 --> 00:35:03,180
The NTSB report was released
about 11 months later.
728
00:35:03,216 --> 00:35:04,446
Hall:
The investigation determined
729
00:35:04,483 --> 00:35:07,253
that the probable cause
of the accident
730
00:35:07,283 --> 00:35:11,483
was the pilot's
spatial disorientation.
731
00:35:12,016 --> 00:35:14,096
Lonnstrom:
I believe he made mistakes
on this flight.
732
00:35:14,133 --> 00:35:16,023
Some of them
are relatively minor
733
00:35:16,050 --> 00:35:19,230
and would not have caused
the accident,
734
00:35:19,266 --> 00:35:21,266
but a contributing factor.
735
00:35:21,300 --> 00:35:27,330
Arnot:
It's always a chain of events
that ends up in a disaster.
736
00:35:27,366 --> 00:35:29,226
The traffic was terrible.
737
00:35:29,266 --> 00:35:31,096
He took off too late.
738
00:35:31,133 --> 00:35:33,003
He didn't have a copilot.
739
00:35:33,033 --> 00:35:35,203
He took a course over the ocean.
740
00:35:35,233 --> 00:35:38,003
He was stressed.
741
00:35:38,033 --> 00:35:41,473
Lonnstrom: The weather forecast
certainly shares some blame.
742
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,470
So you take all of these factors
together,
743
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:48,100
and they snowball
to create this tragedy
744
00:35:48,133 --> 00:35:51,253
that killed JFK Jr.
and these two young women.
745
00:35:51,283 --> 00:35:54,323
Cuomo:
You just start getting plagued
with these two words
746
00:35:54,350 --> 00:35:56,350
that just always surrounded him
when he was alive,
747
00:35:56,383 --> 00:36:01,053
and certainly now
shadow him in death -- what if?
748
00:36:01,083 --> 00:36:02,133
What if he hadn't flown?
749
00:36:02,166 --> 00:36:04,166
What if he had
some other pilot take them?
750
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:05,400
What if they had driven?
751
00:36:05,433 --> 00:36:07,153
What if? What if? What if?
752
00:36:09,233 --> 00:36:11,383
Larrabee: I survived
the World Trade Center.
753
00:36:11,416 --> 00:36:14,246
I was one of the lucky people
that survived.
754
00:36:14,283 --> 00:36:19,383
I truly believe that that day
people made decisions
755
00:36:19,416 --> 00:36:21,996
of turning right
or turning left
756
00:36:22,033 --> 00:36:24,223
and they were
life-or-death decisions.
757
00:36:24,250 --> 00:36:27,430
Do I get in an airplane at 8:30
at night on a Friday night
758
00:36:27,466 --> 00:36:30,426
and fly to Martha's Vineyard,
or do I wait the next morning?
759
00:36:30,466 --> 00:36:32,396
I mean, if you think about
your own life
760
00:36:32,433 --> 00:36:35,323
and the decisions
you make every day,
761
00:36:35,350 --> 00:36:39,100
I don't think you could make
anybody feel bad
762
00:36:39,133 --> 00:36:41,103
about the fact
that he decided to go.
763
00:36:41,133 --> 00:36:44,403
All we know are three young
people lost their lives --
764
00:36:44,433 --> 00:36:47,383
John Kennedy, Carolyn,
and Lauren Bessette.
765
00:36:47,416 --> 00:36:50,216
Gary Tuchman is on hand
at the --
766
00:36:50,250 --> 00:36:52,270
in front of the Tribeca,
Manhattan, apartment
767
00:36:52,300 --> 00:36:54,120
that was
John F. Kennedy Jr.'s.
768
00:36:54,150 --> 00:36:58,170
After he died, there were vigils
outside his apartment.
769
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:04,220
People holding candles,
people crying,
770
00:37:04,250 --> 00:37:06,300
people just wanting
to be there.
771
00:37:06,333 --> 00:37:09,433
Andersen:
Ultimately, the idea of a burial
at sea was agreed upon
772
00:37:09,466 --> 00:37:14,326
because John had spoken
of it himself not long before.
773
00:37:14,366 --> 00:37:18,296
Within 24 hours of the bodies
being pulled up,
774
00:37:18,333 --> 00:37:21,473
we went out to the crash site
and scattered the ashes
775
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,050
from urns there
from the end of the boat.
776
00:37:24,083 --> 00:37:28,133
Larrabee:
That was kind of an amazing end
to this story,
777
00:37:28,166 --> 00:37:30,146
when you think about,
778
00:37:30,183 --> 00:37:32,323
we'd only been out there
two days before,
779
00:37:32,350 --> 00:37:33,430
searching for three people,
780
00:37:33,466 --> 00:37:36,316
and now they are
being buried at sea.
781
00:37:36,350 --> 00:37:40,250
Tuchman: The funeral was held
at the St. Thomas More Church
782
00:37:40,283 --> 00:37:42,183
in Manhattan
on the Upper East Side.
783
00:37:42,216 --> 00:37:45,016
Radziwill: It was --
it was a really a hard day.
784
00:37:45,050 --> 00:37:47,320
Terenzio:
President and Mrs. Clinton
and Chelsea were there
785
00:37:47,350 --> 00:37:49,220
and John's whole family,
obviously,
786
00:37:49,250 --> 00:37:51,170
and Muhammad Ali was there,
787
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:54,380
and it was a beautiful service.
788
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:59,170
Amanpour:
Wyclef Jean sang at the funeral,
789
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:02,100
and I just remember
falling apart at that.
790
00:38:02,133 --> 00:38:04,373
It was really emotional.
791
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:07,470
Cuomo: Senator Ted Kennedy was
a huge figure in John's life,
792
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,200
and he was also
the head of the family.
793
00:38:10,233 --> 00:38:13,333
So when John died,
it made sense
794
00:38:13,366 --> 00:38:15,366
that we were going to hear
from the senator,
795
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:18,170
but the eulogy that he gave
796
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:22,200
wound up capturing so much more
than people expected.
797
00:38:22,233 --> 00:38:24,303
Here's what he said.
798
00:38:24,333 --> 00:38:25,473
"From the first day of his life,
799
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,200
John seemed to belong
not only to our family
800
00:38:28,233 --> 00:38:30,423
but to the American family.
801
00:38:30,450 --> 00:38:35,230
The whole world knew his name
before he did."
802
00:38:35,266 --> 00:38:38,296
Radziwill:
"But John was so much more
than those long-ago images
803
00:38:38,333 --> 00:38:40,373
emblazoned in our minds."
804
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:43,070
Andersen:
"He was a boy who grew into man
for a zest for life
805
00:38:43,100 --> 00:38:44,400
and a love of adventure."
806
00:38:44,433 --> 00:38:48,183
Bailey:
"He saw things that could be
lost in the glare of a spotlight
807
00:38:48,216 --> 00:38:50,166
and he could laugh
at the absurdity
808
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:52,150
of too much pomp
and circumstance."
809
00:38:52,183 --> 00:38:55,303
Arnot: "He drove his own car
and flew his own plane,
810
00:38:55,333 --> 00:38:57,433
which is how he wanted it."
811
00:38:57,466 --> 00:39:01,046
Quest: "And for 1,000 days,
he was a husband who adored
812
00:39:01,083 --> 00:39:05,323
the wife who became
his perfect soul mate."
813
00:39:05,350 --> 00:39:07,470
Tuchman: "He was lost on
that troubled night,
814
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:10,370
but we will always wait for him
so that his time,
815
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:13,130
which was not doubled
but cut in half,
816
00:39:13,166 --> 00:39:15,166
will live forever in our memory
817
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,480
and in our beguiled
and broken hearts."
818
00:39:18,016 --> 00:39:21,026
Camerota: "We dared to think
in that other Irish phrase
819
00:39:21,066 --> 00:39:25,026
that this John Kennedy
would live to comb gray hair
820
00:39:25,066 --> 00:39:27,396
with his beloved Carolyn
by his side.
821
00:39:27,433 --> 00:39:34,053
But like his father, he had
every gift but length of years."
822
00:39:34,083 --> 00:39:36,483
"We who have loved him
from the day he was born
823
00:39:37,016 --> 00:39:40,146
and watched the remarkable man
he became,
824
00:39:40,183 --> 00:39:43,053
now bid him farewell."
825
00:39:43,083 --> 00:39:46,403
If you're asking
if it's hard being me, it's --
826
00:39:46,433 --> 00:39:48,353
Well, it's brought you
a unique life.
827
00:39:48,383 --> 00:39:50,473
Absolutely,
and great opportunities
828
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,320
and some challenges,
829
00:39:53,350 --> 00:39:56,430
but all in all,
I feel very fortunate.
830
00:39:58,033 --> 00:40:00,123
In 2001,
a judge granted permission
831
00:40:00,150 --> 00:40:01,350
for the Bessette family
832
00:40:01,383 --> 00:40:04,283
to settle a claim against
JFK Jr.'s estate for,
833
00:40:04,316 --> 00:40:06,426
"The wrongful death
of their daughters,"
834
00:40:06,466 --> 00:40:08,176
with the Bessettes
receiving a payout
835
00:40:08,216 --> 00:40:10,296
reportedly in the millions.
836
00:40:10,333 --> 00:40:12,053
But whether or not
he's to blame
837
00:40:12,083 --> 00:40:15,323
for the tragic circumstances of
their deaths, there's no doubt
838
00:40:15,350 --> 00:40:18,280
John F. Kennedy Jr. lived
an extraordinary life --
839
00:40:18,316 --> 00:40:20,216
a man dedicated
to charity work,
840
00:40:20,250 --> 00:40:24,280
his career, his family,
and service to our country.
841
00:40:24,316 --> 00:40:25,466
Thanks for watching.
842
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:27,270
Good night.
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