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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:05,300 --> 00:00:07,070 Man: If you were to have a son, 2 00:00:07,100 --> 00:00:09,320 would you encourage a political career for him? 3 00:00:09,350 --> 00:00:10,380 Kennedy: Oh, definitely. 4 00:00:10,416 --> 00:00:12,066 I would hope he would grow up to be 5 00:00:12,100 --> 00:00:13,470 if not a politician in the sense 6 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:15,100 of devoting all of his time, 7 00:00:15,133 --> 00:00:16,423 I would hope that whatever he did do, 8 00:00:16,450 --> 00:00:19,320 that he would have some sense of responsibility 9 00:00:19,350 --> 00:00:20,450 for what went on. 10 00:00:20,483 --> 00:00:23,233 Couric: When you hear him talk about that, 11 00:00:23,266 --> 00:00:25,426 do you ever feel like your choice 12 00:00:25,466 --> 00:00:28,346 not to pursue a career in public service 13 00:00:28,383 --> 00:00:30,353 might have disappointed him? -No. 14 00:00:30,383 --> 00:00:34,203 I can't imagine that he would have said anything different 15 00:00:34,233 --> 00:00:37,433 being asked that question under those circumstances. 16 00:00:37,466 --> 00:00:41,166 You know, he'd always said that he thought 17 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:44,030 everyone should run for office. 18 00:00:44,066 --> 00:00:47,426 And, listen, there's a lot of time in life 19 00:00:47,466 --> 00:00:49,196 to do all sorts of things. 20 00:00:49,233 --> 00:00:55,353 ♪♪ 21 00:00:55,383 --> 00:01:01,483 ♪♪ 22 00:01:02,016 --> 00:01:03,416 Hey, everyone. Welcome to "How It Really Happened." 23 00:01:03,450 --> 00:01:05,200 I'm Hill Harper. 24 00:01:05,233 --> 00:01:10,233 July 17, 1999, we woke up to shocking news. 25 00:01:10,266 --> 00:01:12,426 John F. Kennedy Jr., his wife Carolyn, 26 00:01:12,466 --> 00:01:15,066 and her sister Lauren were missing, 27 00:01:15,100 --> 00:01:17,370 last seen aboard a private plane headed for Martha's Vineyard 28 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:19,430 with John at the controls. 29 00:01:19,466 --> 00:01:22,276 Tonight, our examination into the crash. 30 00:01:22,316 --> 00:01:24,066 Did the plane malfunction? 31 00:01:24,100 --> 00:01:25,220 Was it sabotaged? 32 00:01:25,250 --> 00:01:28,430 Or was John himself somehow responsible? 33 00:01:28,466 --> 00:01:30,396 Let's find out what really happened. 34 00:01:33,050 --> 00:01:34,220 -How you doing today? All right? -Good. How are you? 35 00:01:34,250 --> 00:01:36,420 Man: How do you think your mother would have felt about this? 36 00:01:36,450 --> 00:01:39,420 About this outside? She would have been amused. 37 00:01:39,450 --> 00:01:42,170 Kagan: Here's the latest now on the search for John F. Kennedy Jr., 38 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:44,000 his wife, Carolyn Bessette-Kennedy 39 00:01:44,033 --> 00:01:46,133 and his sister-in-law, Lauren Bessette. 40 00:01:46,166 --> 00:01:48,276 The first thing we knew was the plane was missing, 41 00:01:48,316 --> 00:01:50,146 and that was really all we knew. 42 00:01:50,183 --> 00:01:53,283 Tuchman: He had just gotten his private pilot's license a year earlier 43 00:01:53,316 --> 00:01:55,376 and, by all accounts, just loved to fly. 44 00:01:55,416 --> 00:01:59,476 Public life and politics is both serious and fun. 45 00:02:00,016 --> 00:02:02,266 Man: The U.S. coast guard is conducting a search 46 00:02:02,300 --> 00:02:04,200 off of the coast of New York 47 00:02:04,233 --> 00:02:06,223 extending now up to Martha's Vineyard. 48 00:02:06,250 --> 00:02:08,280 They were going to leave from New Jersey 49 00:02:08,316 --> 00:02:11,216 and make a pit stop at Martha's Vineyard 50 00:02:11,250 --> 00:02:15,070 and then go on to Hyannis Port for the family wedding. 51 00:02:15,100 --> 00:02:18,330 The plane is reported as overdue and missing. 52 00:02:18,366 --> 00:02:21,216 It's unusual for a private plane to go missing that long. 53 00:02:21,250 --> 00:02:25,450 The plane was expected to arrive in the Hyannis Port area 54 00:02:25,483 --> 00:02:28,373 or Martha's Vineyard area around midnight of last night. 55 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:30,200 It did not show up. 56 00:02:30,233 --> 00:02:32,223 I'm honored to be here in the White House. 57 00:02:32,250 --> 00:02:34,270 Man: At Philbin Beach in Massachusetts, 58 00:02:34,300 --> 00:02:35,470 luggage and what the coast guard 59 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:39,430 believes to be parts of the plane have washed ashore. 60 00:02:39,466 --> 00:02:44,076 We just did not believe that the worst could have happened, 61 00:02:44,116 --> 00:02:46,246 and it was many days before that was confirmed, 62 00:02:46,283 --> 00:02:48,473 and for each and every one of those days, 63 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:52,480 I refused to believe that he was gone until it was official. 64 00:02:53,016 --> 00:02:56,176 King: Tonight, the victims of the JFK Jr. plane crash 65 00:02:56,216 --> 00:02:58,146 have been found and recovered. 66 00:02:58,183 --> 00:03:01,473 Investigators are trying to figure out what went wrong. 67 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:03,180 Andersen: It was so devastating because, 68 00:03:03,216 --> 00:03:06,316 you know, John was always there, and there's a reason for that, 69 00:03:06,350 --> 00:03:10,350 because we never really had anybody as close to royalty, 70 00:03:10,383 --> 00:03:14,053 as close to an American Prince, in a sense, 71 00:03:14,083 --> 00:03:15,283 as John F. Kennedy Jr. 72 00:03:15,316 --> 00:03:17,266 Man: John! Woman: Can we get a shot looking here, please? 73 00:03:17,300 --> 00:03:20,430 Cuomo: He understood keenly how he was perceived 74 00:03:20,466 --> 00:03:24,426 and what he meant to people, and it never bittered him, 75 00:03:24,466 --> 00:03:27,316 which is, like, almost impossible to believe. 76 00:03:27,350 --> 00:03:31,280 He would introduce himself to everyone as John Kennedy. 77 00:03:31,316 --> 00:03:33,196 "Hi. My name is John Kennedy," 78 00:03:33,233 --> 00:03:36,153 even though the entire world knew who he was. 79 00:03:36,183 --> 00:03:40,473 He never had that presumption of, "Well, you know who I am." 80 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:42,470 One of the things that I think people didn't appreciate John 81 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:44,180 was how funny he was. 82 00:03:44,216 --> 00:03:46,476 There is one other wedding dress in the world 83 00:03:47,016 --> 00:03:48,376 exactly like my wife Carolyn's, 84 00:03:48,416 --> 00:03:51,126 and I believe it's owned by Dennis Rodman. 85 00:03:51,166 --> 00:03:52,346 [ Laughter ] 86 00:03:52,383 --> 00:03:54,383 Bradley: He was great with voices. 87 00:03:54,416 --> 00:03:58,096 He did a dead-on Schwarzenegger imitation. 88 00:03:58,133 --> 00:04:00,273 Berman: There wasn't a big difference in the way 89 00:04:00,300 --> 00:04:02,150 John lived or the way any of us lived. 90 00:04:02,183 --> 00:04:03,403 I mean, he would go to his apartment, 91 00:04:03,433 --> 00:04:06,133 and, you know, he'd be over in the kitchen 92 00:04:06,166 --> 00:04:10,126 with a -- you know, some crummy blender making margaritas. 93 00:04:10,166 --> 00:04:11,476 Woman: How come you didn't speak? 94 00:04:12,016 --> 00:04:13,116 'Cause Carolyn did all the work, 95 00:04:13,150 --> 00:04:14,250 so she should do all the speaking. 96 00:04:14,283 --> 00:04:15,453 -You're such a good speaker. -[ Chuckles ] 97 00:04:15,483 --> 00:04:19,173 He just seemed like, you know, as normal a guy 98 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:22,480 as you could ever be for being a Kennedy. 99 00:04:23,016 --> 00:04:24,376 Man: Can you answer one question, John? 100 00:04:24,416 --> 00:04:26,126 Mr. Kennedy? 101 00:04:26,166 --> 00:04:28,316 You can't just answer one question, if you're happy? 102 00:04:28,350 --> 00:04:30,220 He didn't have a mean bone in his body. 103 00:04:30,250 --> 00:04:31,250 He just didn't. 104 00:04:33,450 --> 00:04:35,270 What? 105 00:04:35,300 --> 00:04:37,020 I won't. [ Chuckles ] 106 00:04:37,050 --> 00:04:40,480 And he was a very attractive guy with very attractive qualities. 107 00:04:41,016 --> 00:04:43,276 I have a pretty normal life, surprisingly. 108 00:04:43,316 --> 00:04:44,996 I mean, you know, every now and then 109 00:04:45,033 --> 00:04:46,373 sort of strange things happen. 110 00:04:50,383 --> 00:04:56,073 When they found the wreckage of the plane and the bodies, 111 00:04:56,100 --> 00:04:58,330 I mean, it -- we didn't go home after that 112 00:04:58,366 --> 00:05:00,446 because the story was still in full swing. 113 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:04,030 There was still a lot of mystery about what happened, 114 00:05:04,066 --> 00:05:07,226 and so we stayed far long time while the NTSB and investigators 115 00:05:07,266 --> 00:05:10,326 were trying to piece together what had gone so terribly wrong. 116 00:05:13,466 --> 00:05:16,376 Just a few months before the flight, 117 00:05:16,416 --> 00:05:18,296 John purchased a new plane. 118 00:05:21,333 --> 00:05:24,173 I ran into JFK Jr. at a wedding where we had a long 119 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:26,430 and very detailed conversation about aviation. 120 00:05:26,466 --> 00:05:28,346 I said, "John, lookit. 121 00:05:28,383 --> 00:05:30,083 The airplane you're thinking of getting, 122 00:05:30,116 --> 00:05:33,416 this Piper Saratoga, it's a very high-performance plane 123 00:05:33,450 --> 00:05:37,130 but it is easy to kind of, you know, lose control of 124 00:05:37,166 --> 00:05:38,346 if you're not really on it. 125 00:05:38,383 --> 00:05:42,073 My advice to you would be to buy an A-36, 126 00:05:42,100 --> 00:05:45,380 which is a very stable instrument platform. 127 00:05:45,416 --> 00:05:49,046 Well, that would be my advice," which he didn't take. 128 00:05:50,416 --> 00:05:55,026 The type of plane JFK Jr. acquired was a Piper Saratoga. 129 00:05:55,066 --> 00:05:57,226 It's a 300-plus horsepower engine. 130 00:05:57,266 --> 00:05:59,176 John's previous airplane, a Cessna 182, 131 00:05:59,216 --> 00:06:00,996 was an older airplane. 132 00:06:01,033 --> 00:06:05,253 It was a little bit less complex as the Piper Saratoga. 133 00:06:05,283 --> 00:06:07,233 John Kennedy had been flying 134 00:06:07,266 --> 00:06:13,166 for I think approximately 18 months, 135 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:16,100 had something over 300 flight hours, 136 00:06:16,133 --> 00:06:19,223 but this was a new aircraft that he had purchased 137 00:06:19,250 --> 00:06:22,150 and he did not have as much experience in this aircraft 138 00:06:22,183 --> 00:06:25,333 as he had in the previous aircraft he had owned. 139 00:06:28,450 --> 00:06:31,430 In aviation, most accidents are not a result 140 00:06:31,466 --> 00:06:34,446 of a single catastrophic event. 141 00:06:34,483 --> 00:06:40,053 It's usually a chain of multiple small events. 142 00:06:40,083 --> 00:06:42,473 I have a theory which I call the falling-domino theory. 143 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:46,100 So if you could imagine dominos stacked in a line, 144 00:06:46,133 --> 00:06:50,023 each domino would represent a very small event 145 00:06:50,050 --> 00:06:52,100 that's happening or a problem. 146 00:06:52,133 --> 00:06:55,133 Lonnstrom: Once you make one mistake, that leads to another mistake, 147 00:06:55,166 --> 00:06:57,476 which leads to another mistake, which leads to another mistake. 148 00:06:58,016 --> 00:07:00,076 We call it falling behind the curve. 149 00:07:02,150 --> 00:07:03,150 Bailey: In John's case, 150 00:07:03,183 --> 00:07:07,003 there was less than a dozen events 151 00:07:07,033 --> 00:07:11,173 that would represent each domino or a problem. 152 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:13,450 Once one of these dominos start to fall, 153 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:15,380 they're taking everything with it, 154 00:07:15,416 --> 00:07:18,216 and the end result would be catastrophe. 155 00:07:18,250 --> 00:07:21,050 And that's what happened here. 156 00:07:21,083 --> 00:07:24,073 Carolyn called me from the emergency room. 157 00:07:24,100 --> 00:07:27,130 She was upset, and she was not someone who would cry 158 00:07:27,166 --> 00:07:30,276 and get upset all the time, so I knew it was bad. 159 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:38,480 This magazine has always been an exploration of political issues, 160 00:07:39,016 --> 00:07:42,016 and it's a way to engage the political process. 161 00:07:42,050 --> 00:07:45,070 In the weeks leading up to this flight that he took, 162 00:07:45,100 --> 00:07:47,250 John had a lot of stress in his life. 163 00:07:47,283 --> 00:07:49,383 Terenzio: John had a meeting with the publisher of the magazine, 164 00:07:49,416 --> 00:07:53,346 and they said that they were not going to continue 165 00:07:53,383 --> 00:07:55,233 their partnership with him, 166 00:07:55,266 --> 00:07:58,096 and he was starting to look for funding elsewhere. 167 00:07:58,133 --> 00:07:59,453 If somebody else would have picked upGeorge 168 00:07:59,483 --> 00:08:02,483 I think we would have moved, but it was uncertain. 169 00:08:03,016 --> 00:08:04,216 Terenzio: It was a tough time for John, 170 00:08:04,250 --> 00:08:10,150 but I think especially stressful for John was Anthony's illness. 171 00:08:10,183 --> 00:08:12,183 Anthony Radziwill was John's cousin, 172 00:08:12,216 --> 00:08:14,396 and they were like brothers. 173 00:08:14,433 --> 00:08:16,403 They were closer than any -- 174 00:08:16,433 --> 00:08:20,133 probably any family member of John's is -- was to him. 175 00:08:20,166 --> 00:08:25,166 I think John was having a very hard time 176 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:26,300 dealing with the fact 177 00:08:26,333 --> 00:08:29,423 that Anthony was probably going to die soon. 178 00:08:29,450 --> 00:08:31,280 Radziwill: And the doctors basically said 179 00:08:31,316 --> 00:08:35,096 there's really nothing more that they can do 180 00:08:35,133 --> 00:08:38,483 and suggested just going somewhere as peaceful 181 00:08:39,016 --> 00:08:41,016 and quiet and enjoyable, 182 00:08:41,050 --> 00:08:45,080 and we decided then to spend the summer at the vineyard 183 00:08:45,116 --> 00:08:50,066 in John and Carolyn's house, and that's where we were. 184 00:08:53,316 --> 00:08:58,466 Memorial Day weekend, John had his new toy. 185 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:00,200 I called it a flying lawnmower. 186 00:09:00,233 --> 00:09:02,433 It kind of looked like a sit-down lawnmower 187 00:09:02,466 --> 00:09:04,396 with a parachute. 188 00:09:04,433 --> 00:09:07,373 Man: You want to knock out a couple 360s for me? 189 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:10,000 -Sure. -Good. 190 00:09:10,033 --> 00:09:11,223 We'll bring it down. 191 00:09:11,250 --> 00:09:14,330 Andersen: He brings it in just over the tops of the trees 192 00:09:14,366 --> 00:09:19,066 and in for a very, very rough landing. 193 00:09:19,100 --> 00:09:23,000 And, unfortunately, he broke his ankle. 194 00:09:23,033 --> 00:09:24,073 What happened to your foot, here? 195 00:09:24,100 --> 00:09:25,100 You're in a cast this evening. 196 00:09:25,133 --> 00:09:27,233 Yeah, I'm in a cast. I broke my ankle. 197 00:09:27,266 --> 00:09:29,116 It's the first weekend of the summer, 198 00:09:29,150 --> 00:09:32,000 and I'm laid up for a couple weeks. 199 00:09:32,033 --> 00:09:36,023 Terenzio: John was so active, and especially in the summer, 200 00:09:36,050 --> 00:09:37,380 doing things outdoors. 201 00:09:37,416 --> 00:09:39,266 You know, it sucked for him. 202 00:09:39,300 --> 00:09:42,300 Radziwill: Carolyn called me from the emergency room. 203 00:09:42,333 --> 00:09:45,383 She was upset, and she was not someone who would cry 204 00:09:45,416 --> 00:09:48,166 and get upset all the time, so I knew it was bad, 205 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:51,300 and she was very worried about him. 206 00:09:51,333 --> 00:09:53,223 It was just going to be a lot to handle 207 00:09:53,250 --> 00:09:54,420 on top of everything else 208 00:09:54,450 --> 00:09:58,070 that we were dealing with that summer. 209 00:09:58,100 --> 00:09:59,470 Amanpour: I spent the last weekend of his life 210 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:03,100 with him at his estate in Martha's Vineyard. 211 00:10:03,133 --> 00:10:07,273 And when we left, I know John was going on to Canada 212 00:10:07,300 --> 00:10:10,450 to try to drum up some more money 213 00:10:10,483 --> 00:10:13,383 and advertising and support forGeorge. 214 00:10:13,416 --> 00:10:16,026 And he said, "Next week, 215 00:10:16,066 --> 00:10:20,016 I'm going to my cousin's wedding in Hyannis Port, Rory, 216 00:10:20,050 --> 00:10:22,230 but why don't you all come up the following week?" 217 00:10:22,266 --> 00:10:25,126 So we said, "Okay," and, "Great, lovely. Bye." 218 00:10:25,166 --> 00:10:28,216 And we all waved, and I still remember him waving 219 00:10:28,250 --> 00:10:32,270 and walking across to his plane on the tarmac. 220 00:10:32,300 --> 00:10:36,470 My partner, Michael Berman, and I startedGeorge 221 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:41,070 and bring a fresh new style to the way we cover politics. 222 00:10:41,100 --> 00:10:42,470 Terenzio: The week leading up to the accident, 223 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:44,180 there was a lot going on. 224 00:10:44,216 --> 00:10:47,466 He was working a lot of hours, and he was not home a lot, 225 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:51,070 and Carolyn, I think, was feeling a little fatigued 226 00:10:51,100 --> 00:10:52,450 by all of the pressures, 227 00:10:52,483 --> 00:10:55,323 and she really wanted some downtime with John. 228 00:10:55,350 --> 00:10:57,130 And I think it was frustrating to her 229 00:10:57,166 --> 00:10:58,266 that she didn't see a light 230 00:10:58,300 --> 00:11:00,450 at the end of the tunnel in terms of, 231 00:11:00,483 --> 00:11:03,103 "When are we ever just going to be a married couple 232 00:11:03,133 --> 00:11:05,483 who can hang out and spend time together?" 233 00:11:06,016 --> 00:11:10,146 And she wasn't going to go to the wedding. 234 00:11:10,183 --> 00:11:12,333 I said, "Look, this is going to look really bad for John 235 00:11:12,366 --> 00:11:16,146 if you don't show up at the wedding. 236 00:11:16,183 --> 00:11:19,453 People talk enough about you guys and about what's going on 237 00:11:19,483 --> 00:11:21,183 and what's not going on with you, 238 00:11:21,216 --> 00:11:22,996 and I just think you have to go. 239 00:11:23,033 --> 00:11:25,053 His whole family's going to be there, 240 00:11:25,083 --> 00:11:26,483 and I think you have to go." 241 00:11:27,016 --> 00:11:29,376 And she said okay. 242 00:11:29,416 --> 00:11:30,366 [ Voice breaking ] I don't know for sure 243 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:31,470 if she wouldn't have gone. 244 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:36,070 I like to think she would have anyway, but I'll -- 245 00:11:36,100 --> 00:11:41,130 I'll never feel good about having had that conversation. 246 00:11:41,166 --> 00:11:43,026 Man: How is everything? 247 00:11:43,066 --> 00:11:44,396 Everything is wonderful. 248 00:11:44,433 --> 00:11:46,153 [ Chuckles ] 249 00:11:46,183 --> 00:11:50,173 Andersen: The plan was that John was going to fly with Carolyn 250 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:54,000 to his cousin Rory's wedding in Hyannis Port, 251 00:11:54,033 --> 00:11:57,123 and they were going to take Carolyn's sister Lauren 252 00:11:57,150 --> 00:12:00,430 and drop her off in Martha's Vineyard. 253 00:12:00,466 --> 00:12:03,996 Lonnstrom: An instructor offered to go with him, 254 00:12:04,033 --> 00:12:05,333 and John turned him down, and he said, 255 00:12:05,366 --> 00:12:08,096 "No, I want to do this alone." 256 00:12:08,133 --> 00:12:11,083 Quest: Until now, most of John's flying, certainly at night, 257 00:12:11,116 --> 00:12:13,266 had been with an instructor. 258 00:12:13,300 --> 00:12:17,150 If the aircraft had become unstable, 259 00:12:17,183 --> 00:12:19,103 if the horizon had been lost, 260 00:12:19,133 --> 00:12:21,183 if they were in challenging circumstances, 261 00:12:21,216 --> 00:12:22,376 the instructor would've taken over 262 00:12:22,416 --> 00:12:26,096 or would have guided John in the flying of the aircraft. 263 00:12:26,133 --> 00:12:28,433 They'd be alive today. 264 00:12:28,466 --> 00:12:32,146 Bailey: JFK Jr. made that trip countless times on Friday night 265 00:12:32,183 --> 00:12:35,003 and then returned on Sunday night. 266 00:12:35,033 --> 00:12:37,473 There was no reason to be concerned about him 267 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:39,220 flying up that night. 268 00:12:39,250 --> 00:12:44,450 Quest: However, he's seen boarding the plane with crutches, 269 00:12:44,483 --> 00:12:48,253 and it immediately raises the question, 270 00:12:48,283 --> 00:12:52,133 "Was he in a fit state to manipulate the -- 271 00:12:52,166 --> 00:12:53,466 the rudder controls on the plane?" 272 00:13:00,033 --> 00:13:02,153 King: That still exists, that togetherness in the Kennedys? 273 00:13:02,183 --> 00:13:03,283 -Yeah. -It doesn't go away, right? 274 00:13:03,316 --> 00:13:05,426 No, it's one of the great lucky things 275 00:13:05,466 --> 00:13:06,466 about being in my family, 276 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:09,470 which I am -- which has stayed. 277 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:15,080 Radziwill: That Friday, they were going to a wedding in Hyannis, 278 00:13:15,116 --> 00:13:17,226 and Carolyn's sister Lauren had decided 279 00:13:17,266 --> 00:13:20,416 she was going to spend the weekend in the vineyard, 280 00:13:20,450 --> 00:13:25,130 and they were going to drop her off on the way to Hyannis. 281 00:13:25,166 --> 00:13:27,266 But they never made it. 282 00:13:31,383 --> 00:13:33,133 Andersen: It was a hot Friday. 283 00:13:33,166 --> 00:13:35,266 John was working in his office in Times Square, 284 00:13:35,300 --> 00:13:38,130 the offices ofGeorge. 285 00:13:38,166 --> 00:13:45,276 That last day was, in many ways, an ordinary summer Friday. 286 00:13:45,316 --> 00:13:49,426 I had lunch with John, and it was a nice lunch, 287 00:13:49,466 --> 00:13:52,346 although you could tell that John was a little bit tired. 288 00:13:52,383 --> 00:13:54,453 And we walked back to the office, 289 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:57,280 and we were talking about plans for the weekend, 290 00:13:57,316 --> 00:13:59,066 and John told me that he was going to be 291 00:13:59,100 --> 00:14:02,050 flying to Hyannis Port, 292 00:14:02,083 --> 00:14:04,403 and... 293 00:14:04,433 --> 00:14:07,233 I was a little concerned. 294 00:14:07,266 --> 00:14:09,416 And I made a joke. 295 00:14:09,450 --> 00:14:12,380 I said to John -- 296 00:14:12,416 --> 00:14:15,396 I said, "John, just don't crash, okay? 297 00:14:15,433 --> 00:14:17,253 Because we need you." 298 00:14:19,050 --> 00:14:21,070 [ Chuckles ] 299 00:14:22,483 --> 00:14:24,223 I wish I could take it back. 300 00:14:24,250 --> 00:14:26,000 I wish that I could have said instead, 301 00:14:26,033 --> 00:14:29,203 "John, I wish maybe you should just let 302 00:14:29,233 --> 00:14:32,053 somebody drive you up this time. 303 00:14:32,083 --> 00:14:33,203 It's been a long week. 304 00:14:33,233 --> 00:14:35,033 I know you're a little tired. 305 00:14:35,066 --> 00:14:37,296 I know your foot hurts. 306 00:14:37,333 --> 00:14:39,283 Just be careful, okay?" 307 00:14:42,333 --> 00:14:46,173 Terenzio: The plan was that John was going to meet Lauren, 308 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:51,330 Carolyn's sister, in the lobby of the building, 309 00:14:51,366 --> 00:14:55,266 and then Carolyn was going to meet them at the airport. 310 00:14:55,300 --> 00:14:58,250 He got out of the office later than he wanted to. 311 00:14:58,283 --> 00:15:00,303 There was traffic. 312 00:15:00,333 --> 00:15:05,073 Arnot: I remember it was the worst traffic I had seen in 20 years. 313 00:15:05,100 --> 00:15:08,430 I mean, it was unbelievably bad. 314 00:15:08,466 --> 00:15:10,376 He had expected to leave in daylight 315 00:15:10,416 --> 00:15:13,076 and, of course, ended up leaving in twilight. 316 00:15:13,116 --> 00:15:14,346 They actually arrived an hour later 317 00:15:14,383 --> 00:15:17,183 than they had planned at the airport. 318 00:15:17,216 --> 00:15:20,146 Man: With us right now is a pilot who was also flying in his plane 319 00:15:20,183 --> 00:15:22,053 to Martha's Vineyard last night, 320 00:15:22,083 --> 00:15:24,353 coincidentally happened to see John F. Kennedy 321 00:15:24,383 --> 00:15:26,383 get on his plane and watch his plane take off. 322 00:15:26,416 --> 00:15:28,096 This is Kyle Bailey. 323 00:15:28,133 --> 00:15:33,483 He got to the airport probably around 8:00-ish, 8:10 P.M. 324 00:15:34,016 --> 00:15:39,176 very inconspicuous -- white t-shirt, casual clothing. 325 00:15:39,216 --> 00:15:40,466 Did he have crutches? 'Cause he had an injury. 326 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:43,280 I thought I saw one crutch, and I saw him limping. 327 00:15:43,316 --> 00:15:47,346 Quest: He's seen boarding the plane on the night, 328 00:15:47,383 --> 00:15:50,153 the Friday night, with crutches, 329 00:15:50,183 --> 00:15:53,283 and it immediately raises the question, 330 00:15:53,316 --> 00:15:57,196 "Was he in a fit state to manipulate the -- 331 00:15:57,233 --> 00:15:59,153 the rudder controls on the plane?" 332 00:15:59,183 --> 00:16:02,003 That turns the plane left and turns the plane right. 333 00:16:02,033 --> 00:16:05,373 We don't know, is the short answer, of what effect, 334 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:08,220 if any, this had on what happened. 335 00:16:11,033 --> 00:16:12,373 Bailey: He actually did do a run-up on the airplane, 336 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:14,200 which is he was checking 337 00:16:14,233 --> 00:16:16,283 the various components of the airplane, 338 00:16:16,316 --> 00:16:19,216 making sure the engine was functioning properly. 339 00:16:19,250 --> 00:16:20,430 It struck me as a little bit odd. 340 00:16:20,466 --> 00:16:23,226 What went through my mind was maybe possibly 341 00:16:23,266 --> 00:16:26,176 he was checking a previous problem, 342 00:16:26,216 --> 00:16:28,326 perhaps, that he had on the airplane. 343 00:16:28,366 --> 00:16:29,426 My plans that Friday 344 00:16:29,466 --> 00:16:33,196 were to fly to Martha's Vineyard in my aircraft. 345 00:16:33,233 --> 00:16:35,323 I decided to scrub my plans that night 346 00:16:35,350 --> 00:16:39,180 because of the reduced visibility conditions. 347 00:16:41,433 --> 00:16:44,203 JFK Jr. did check the weather that evening, 348 00:16:44,233 --> 00:16:47,233 and the report was roughly nine miles of visibility. 349 00:16:47,266 --> 00:16:50,316 Now, the actual weather was nowhere near that. 350 00:16:50,350 --> 00:16:55,230 We know from other pilots that were flying that same route 351 00:16:55,266 --> 00:17:03,026 and that same air space that the haze and the mist was very bad. 352 00:17:03,066 --> 00:17:04,196 Arnot: The basic discrepancy was this. 353 00:17:04,233 --> 00:17:06,083 There were two different systems. 354 00:17:06,116 --> 00:17:09,996 There was an automatic system which misgauged the weather 355 00:17:10,033 --> 00:17:14,303 and led forecasters to say nine miles visibility. 356 00:17:14,333 --> 00:17:16,183 In aviation terms, 357 00:17:16,216 --> 00:17:19,296 the weather forecast that JFK Jr. got 358 00:17:19,333 --> 00:17:22,073 was just plain wrong, 359 00:17:22,100 --> 00:17:26,080 and it's that forecast that accounted for his death. 360 00:17:26,116 --> 00:17:27,216 [ Camera shutter clicks ] 361 00:17:27,250 --> 00:17:29,130 Radziwill: Carolyn called me from the plane 362 00:17:29,166 --> 00:17:31,296 right before they were taking off, 363 00:17:31,333 --> 00:17:36,473 and I think it was probably a little bit after 8:00. 364 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:39,030 I don't remember anything 365 00:17:39,066 --> 00:17:40,476 really important from that conversation. 366 00:17:41,016 --> 00:17:42,416 I didn't certainly think it would be the last time 367 00:17:42,450 --> 00:17:44,270 I would speak to my friend. 368 00:17:44,300 --> 00:17:48,000 I remember at the end she said, you know, "I love you." 369 00:17:48,033 --> 00:17:50,173 And I -- for some reason, 370 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:52,120 I didn't say, "I love you," back, 371 00:17:52,150 --> 00:17:54,380 and that always stuck with me, 372 00:17:54,416 --> 00:17:57,366 and she said, "I'll call you when I land," 373 00:17:57,400 --> 00:18:04,270 and then that was the last I ever heard from her or anyone. 374 00:18:04,300 --> 00:18:09,030 It wasn't until 8:38 that they took off. 375 00:18:09,066 --> 00:18:11,466 Camerota: The NTSB report, which was issued later, 376 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:14,230 tells us a little bit about what happened. 377 00:18:14,266 --> 00:18:18,996 The tower controller issues a takeoff clearance. 378 00:18:19,033 --> 00:18:24,173 John acknowledges the takeoff clearance and then, it says, 379 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:27,180 "A few seconds later, the tower controller asked the pilot 380 00:18:27,216 --> 00:18:29,396 if he was heading towards Teterboro, 381 00:18:29,433 --> 00:18:31,183 to which he applied 'No, sir. 382 00:18:31,216 --> 00:18:34,316 Actually, I'm heading a little north of it eastbound." 383 00:18:34,350 --> 00:18:36,180 "The tower controller then instructed the pilot 384 00:18:36,216 --> 00:18:39,026 to make a right downwind departure. 385 00:18:39,066 --> 00:18:43,016 This was acknowledged by the pilot at 2038:56. 386 00:18:43,050 --> 00:18:45,120 There was no record of any further communications 387 00:18:45,150 --> 00:18:48,070 between the pilot and air traffic control." 388 00:18:48,100 --> 00:18:50,170 So we thought that that was the last time 389 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:53,430 that anyone had spoken to John, 390 00:18:53,466 --> 00:18:57,116 but it turns out that might not be true. 391 00:18:57,150 --> 00:19:00,050 Bailey: All the way at the end of the NTSB accident report, 392 00:19:00,083 --> 00:19:02,083 we have two witness statements. 393 00:19:02,116 --> 00:19:05,046 So that evening, I overheard an aircraft calling, 394 00:19:05,083 --> 00:19:07,153 which I thought was calling Republic operations 395 00:19:07,183 --> 00:19:10,223 and ended up being Martha's Vineyard's operations. 396 00:19:10,250 --> 00:19:11,400 I had not heard about these before. 397 00:19:11,433 --> 00:19:14,133 These appear likely to be 398 00:19:14,166 --> 00:19:18,016 the very last transmissions of JFK Jr. 399 00:19:21,483 --> 00:19:23,373 This is going to be your life -- 400 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:25,370 editing, publishing, magazines, writing? 401 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:27,020 Is that it? 402 00:19:27,050 --> 00:19:29,380 Well, I mean, starting a magazine is a huge enterprise, 403 00:19:29,416 --> 00:19:31,196 and it's enormously exciting. 404 00:19:31,233 --> 00:19:32,483 This is what we're doing, you know, and -- 405 00:19:33,016 --> 00:19:34,466 For the time being, or you want to stay with it? 406 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:36,420 Well, I would hate to say I'm going to do anything 407 00:19:36,450 --> 00:19:38,450 till I'm 70, but I'm going to be doing this 408 00:19:38,483 --> 00:19:42,233 for the foreseeable future. 409 00:19:42,266 --> 00:19:45,276 Hey, everyone. Welcome back to "How It Really Happened." 410 00:19:45,316 --> 00:19:49,196 Friday evening, July 16th, John Kennedy Jr. 411 00:19:49,233 --> 00:19:52,153 boarded his Piper Saratoga along with his passengers in the back, 412 00:19:52,183 --> 00:19:54,473 his wife, Carolyn, and her sister, Lauren. 413 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:57,430 They intended to make a short flight to Martha's Vineyard. 414 00:19:57,466 --> 00:20:01,126 We now know extraordinary details about what happened 415 00:20:01,166 --> 00:20:04,476 during their one hour and three minutes in the air. 416 00:20:05,016 --> 00:20:06,276 Check it out. 417 00:20:06,316 --> 00:20:14,196 ♪♪ 418 00:20:14,233 --> 00:20:22,133 ♪♪ 419 00:20:22,166 --> 00:20:26,146 Andersen: At 8:38, he took off with Carolyn and Lauren 420 00:20:26,183 --> 00:20:30,103 aboard the plane and headed towards Martha's Vineyard. 421 00:20:32,150 --> 00:20:37,150 He takes off, and he heads basically northeast. 422 00:20:37,183 --> 00:20:40,073 Andersen: We learned later that John's plane came uncomfortably close 423 00:20:40,100 --> 00:20:42,230 to an American Airlines passenger jet. 424 00:20:42,266 --> 00:20:44,116 As he passes over white plains, 425 00:20:44,150 --> 00:20:48,280 the pilot of that jet is warned by air traffic controllers 426 00:20:48,316 --> 00:20:50,476 that this small aircraft is near him 427 00:20:51,016 --> 00:20:52,266 and that he should pay attention. 428 00:20:52,300 --> 00:20:54,130 They didn't come close enough to crash, 429 00:20:54,166 --> 00:20:56,316 but they came close enough to scare everybody. 430 00:20:56,350 --> 00:20:58,050 The pilot of the American Airlines 431 00:20:58,083 --> 00:20:59,453 says to the controller at LaGuardia, 432 00:20:59,483 --> 00:21:01,433 "That plane's not talking to anybody?" 433 00:21:01,466 --> 00:21:04,096 And the LaGuardia guy says, "No, he's not talking to anybody." 434 00:21:04,133 --> 00:21:05,373 And he never did. 435 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:07,280 You can imagine if he had this kind of trouble 436 00:21:07,316 --> 00:21:09,146 navigating early in the flight, 437 00:21:09,183 --> 00:21:12,433 he might have trouble later in the flight. 438 00:21:12,466 --> 00:21:16,166 Then he continued along the Connecticut coastline 439 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:18,120 and then the Rhode Island coastline, 440 00:21:18,150 --> 00:21:21,200 and then rather than continuing along the coast, 441 00:21:21,233 --> 00:21:24,333 where he would have been able to see the ground and be oriented, 442 00:21:24,366 --> 00:21:28,246 he went directly out over the ocean to Martha's Vineyard. 443 00:21:28,283 --> 00:21:30,133 Between Point Judith and Martha's Vineyard, 444 00:21:30,166 --> 00:21:33,346 you have this black, inky air space over open water 445 00:21:33,383 --> 00:21:35,483 where there would have been no clues at all. 446 00:21:36,016 --> 00:21:38,076 There was no land to see. There were no lights. 447 00:21:38,116 --> 00:21:40,316 There was nothing. 448 00:21:40,350 --> 00:21:44,370 And at that point, he's made a fatal error. 449 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:46,020 At the end 450 00:21:46,050 --> 00:21:47,420 of the National Transportation Safety Board report, 451 00:21:47,450 --> 00:21:49,280 we have these two very interesting 452 00:21:49,316 --> 00:21:51,346 and odd witness statements. 453 00:21:51,383 --> 00:21:54,403 Camerota: These witness reports are extraordinary 454 00:21:54,433 --> 00:21:59,053 because they reveal something that none of us knew before, 455 00:21:59,083 --> 00:22:02,383 and that is that there may have been people 456 00:22:02,416 --> 00:22:05,376 who spoke to John right before he crashed. 457 00:22:05,416 --> 00:22:06,466 Arnot: "Mr. Lagudi is employed 458 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,220 at Republic Airport, Farmingdale, New York. 459 00:22:13,150 --> 00:22:14,430 On the night of the accident, 460 00:22:14,466 --> 00:22:20,016 approximately 21:20 eastern daylight time," or 9:20, 461 00:22:20,050 --> 00:22:25,370 "He was monitoring the UNICOM frequency 122.95 megahertz. 462 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:27,150 What a UNICOM frequency is, 463 00:22:27,183 --> 00:22:29,083 is generally a fixed-base operator, 464 00:22:29,116 --> 00:22:32,196 or a person who handles, say, the fueling of the airplane 465 00:22:32,233 --> 00:22:34,203 or unloading baggage of the airplane. 466 00:22:34,233 --> 00:22:35,353 Camerota: "During that time, 467 00:22:35,383 --> 00:22:38,483 Mr. Perez heard several transmissions from a pilot 468 00:22:39,016 --> 00:22:44,326 that used a call sign similar to November 9253 November." 469 00:22:44,366 --> 00:22:47,076 Arnot: "During a period of approximately 10 minutes, 470 00:22:47,116 --> 00:22:51,466 the pilot attempted to contact 'someone at Martha's Vineyard.'" 471 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:53,450 Bailey: "One last transmission was heard. 472 00:22:53,483 --> 00:22:56,183 The pilot stated, 'We're not going to make it 473 00:22:56,216 --> 00:22:59,466 if we don't get a hold of the facility.'" 474 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:03,020 In July of 1999, I was working at Republic Airport 475 00:23:03,050 --> 00:23:05,020 in Farmingdale, New York, 476 00:23:05,050 --> 00:23:07,180 in the crash-fire rescue division at the airport. 477 00:23:07,216 --> 00:23:10,046 [ Radio chatter ] 478 00:23:10,083 --> 00:23:12,303 We had this radio on our desk all the time, 479 00:23:12,333 --> 00:23:14,423 and it was very common that we had the flights in and out, 480 00:23:14,450 --> 00:23:17,330 and you'd hear all sorts of radio traffic, 481 00:23:17,366 --> 00:23:21,076 you know, not just calling Republic operations. 482 00:23:21,116 --> 00:23:23,346 That evening, I overheard an aircraft 483 00:23:23,383 --> 00:23:26,133 calling which I thought was calling Republic operations 484 00:23:26,166 --> 00:23:30,016 and ended up being Martha's Vineyard's operations. 485 00:23:30,050 --> 00:23:32,350 And, you know, over the next 10, 15 minutes, 486 00:23:32,383 --> 00:23:34,373 you know, there was more repeated calls, 487 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:37,170 and not that it was frantic or anything like that, 488 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:40,100 this wasn't any kind of distress call, 489 00:23:40,133 --> 00:23:41,483 but after that 15-minute period, 490 00:23:42,016 --> 00:23:43,446 you could kind of hear the tone of the voice 491 00:23:43,483 --> 00:23:46,233 just kind of maybe getting a little bit more annoyed, 492 00:23:46,266 --> 00:23:48,396 but definitely some type of frustration in there, 493 00:23:48,433 --> 00:23:49,403 so I called back. 494 00:23:49,433 --> 00:23:50,453 I was just like, you know, 495 00:23:50,483 --> 00:23:52,253 "Aircraft, we're calling Martha's Vineyard. 496 00:23:52,283 --> 00:23:53,453 This is Republic airport, again." 497 00:23:53,483 --> 00:23:56,153 You know, "Is -- anything I could help you with?" 498 00:23:56,183 --> 00:23:59,003 And just a general statement, cool, calm and collect was, 499 00:23:59,033 --> 00:24:01,283 "Yeah, we're just trying to reach Martha's Vineyard to let, 500 00:24:01,316 --> 00:24:02,476 you know, our people know that 501 00:24:03,016 --> 00:24:04,316 we're not going to make the airport." 502 00:24:04,350 --> 00:24:08,000 I looked up the phone number for Martha's Vineyard's operation. 503 00:24:08,033 --> 00:24:10,033 There was no answer at that phone number. 504 00:24:10,066 --> 00:24:12,166 I think I ended up calling, like, two or three times 505 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:15,220 and just didn't get an answer. 506 00:24:15,250 --> 00:24:18,200 At this point, I wrote down the tail number just out of habit. 507 00:24:18,233 --> 00:24:19,323 Any time we pick up a radio, 508 00:24:19,350 --> 00:24:21,330 we'd always kind of just jot it down. 509 00:24:21,366 --> 00:24:23,146 That was it. 510 00:24:23,183 --> 00:24:27,033 I didn't find out what happened until about 3:30 the next day 511 00:24:27,066 --> 00:24:28,266 showing back up for work, 512 00:24:28,300 --> 00:24:30,450 getting ready to relieve the day crew. 513 00:24:30,483 --> 00:24:33,083 You know, they were like, "Oh, did you hear what happened? 514 00:24:33,116 --> 00:24:34,376 JFK Jr.'s plane is missing." 515 00:24:34,416 --> 00:24:36,016 And it's like, "Oh, yeah? Oh." 516 00:24:36,050 --> 00:24:39,320 Still at this point, no, you know, alarm or concern. 517 00:24:39,350 --> 00:24:42,250 The desperate hunt for John F. Kennedy Jr. 518 00:24:42,283 --> 00:24:44,073 continues at this hour. 519 00:24:44,100 --> 00:24:46,420 17 miles offshore was the last contact 520 00:24:46,450 --> 00:24:48,130 with the Kennedy plane. 521 00:24:48,166 --> 00:24:49,326 Lagudi: But it wasn't until later that evening 522 00:24:49,366 --> 00:24:51,276 we started watching the news on TV, 523 00:24:51,316 --> 00:24:55,346 and then the news had shown an actual picture of his plane 524 00:24:55,383 --> 00:24:58,023 from the side that showed his tail number. 525 00:24:58,050 --> 00:24:59,330 And the gentleman that I was working with, 526 00:24:59,366 --> 00:25:01,216 he looked at me, and I looked at him, 527 00:25:01,250 --> 00:25:04,220 and the tail number kind of rang a bell. 528 00:25:04,250 --> 00:25:06,080 We pulled out the paper out of the garbage, 529 00:25:06,116 --> 00:25:09,116 and, sure enough, the tail numbers matched. 530 00:25:09,150 --> 00:25:10,270 It was a bit of a shock, you know? 531 00:25:10,300 --> 00:25:13,100 It was like, "Oh, my God." 532 00:25:13,133 --> 00:25:16,323 As it turns out, the UNICOM radio frequency 533 00:25:16,350 --> 00:25:20,470 that these guys were monitoring is the same radio frequency 534 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:24,020 that they use at the Martha's Vineyard airport. 535 00:25:24,050 --> 00:25:27,420 So it is feasible that the voice that they heard 536 00:25:27,450 --> 00:25:29,420 and the person that they were listening to 537 00:25:29,450 --> 00:25:31,330 was John Jr. that night. 538 00:25:31,366 --> 00:25:32,426 Quest: He said, "It's likely 539 00:25:32,466 --> 00:25:36,276 we're not going to make Martha's Vineyard." 540 00:25:36,316 --> 00:25:38,476 And we don't really know what it means. 541 00:25:39,016 --> 00:25:41,266 It's there. It's hanging there. 542 00:25:41,300 --> 00:25:43,050 But if you look at the timing of it, 543 00:25:43,083 --> 00:25:45,003 it's about 20 minutes or so 544 00:25:45,033 --> 00:25:47,153 before he starts his final descent. 545 00:25:47,183 --> 00:25:49,433 I had not heard about these before. 546 00:25:49,466 --> 00:25:52,146 These appear likely to be 547 00:25:52,183 --> 00:25:56,133 the very last transmissions of JFK Jr. 548 00:25:58,333 --> 00:26:04,283 What is fascinating is that the line between total success 549 00:26:04,316 --> 00:26:07,466 and absolute catastrophe is very narrow. 550 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,370 Radziwill: I'm calling John's friend in Hyannis 551 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:12,230 and screaming into the phone, 552 00:26:12,266 --> 00:26:16,046 "Please, you have to find somebody in John's family 553 00:26:16,083 --> 00:26:18,173 to tell them what's going on." 554 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,470 Woman: I was wondering, John, what aspect of your personality 555 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:28,250 do you credit your mother the most 556 00:26:28,283 --> 00:26:30,033 for having instilled in you? 557 00:26:30,066 --> 00:26:32,076 I think that there's a sense of not worrying too much 558 00:26:32,116 --> 00:26:35,416 about things that you can't control, 559 00:26:35,450 --> 00:26:39,430 just sort of living your life and doing what you feel 560 00:26:39,466 --> 00:26:42,396 and where your interests take you. 561 00:26:42,433 --> 00:26:48,223 ♪♪ 562 00:26:48,250 --> 00:26:52,000 It was a very spooky, even scary, place to be, 563 00:26:52,033 --> 00:26:54,423 over those waters, over the vineyard 564 00:26:54,450 --> 00:26:56,220 that particular weekend. 565 00:26:58,450 --> 00:27:02,080 I made a nearly identical flight to JFK Jr. 566 00:27:02,116 --> 00:27:04,296 at nearly the same time. 567 00:27:04,333 --> 00:27:06,133 We went past Martha's Vineyard, 568 00:27:06,166 --> 00:27:09,216 and I have a device called a moving map display. 569 00:27:09,250 --> 00:27:11,350 The display said I was two-and-a-half miles 570 00:27:11,383 --> 00:27:12,423 from Martha's Vineyard. 571 00:27:12,450 --> 00:27:14,070 So without looking out the window, 572 00:27:14,100 --> 00:27:15,300 I said to my nephew, Tyler, 573 00:27:15,333 --> 00:27:18,153 I said, "Tyler, there's Martha's Vineyard." 574 00:27:18,183 --> 00:27:21,073 And he goes, "Where? I don't see anything." 575 00:27:21,100 --> 00:27:23,070 I mean, this is totally unpredicted. 576 00:27:23,100 --> 00:27:24,430 The weather never said this. 577 00:27:27,100 --> 00:27:30,480 Quest: If you look at what his instructors said, 578 00:27:31,016 --> 00:27:38,096 John Kennedy was an average pilot who showed promise, 579 00:27:38,133 --> 00:27:40,033 he showed some skill, 580 00:27:40,066 --> 00:27:43,316 but he was by no means an exceptional pilot, 581 00:27:43,350 --> 00:27:47,370 and what he encountered on this Friday night 582 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:53,270 were challenging flying conditions that took him 583 00:27:53,300 --> 00:27:59,030 to the edge of the envelope of his experience. 584 00:27:59,066 --> 00:28:00,116 There's two ways to fly. 585 00:28:00,150 --> 00:28:02,180 One is visual, and the other is instrument. 586 00:28:02,216 --> 00:28:05,076 VFR is visual flight rules. 587 00:28:05,116 --> 00:28:10,046 It literally means flying by looking out of the window. 588 00:28:10,083 --> 00:28:12,073 You can see the horizon. 589 00:28:12,100 --> 00:28:14,400 You can see where you're going. 590 00:28:14,433 --> 00:28:18,253 IFR, instrument flight rules -- completely different. 591 00:28:18,283 --> 00:28:23,333 This is where you fly only by using the instruments 592 00:28:23,366 --> 00:28:27,396 because the visibility outside is either so bad 593 00:28:27,433 --> 00:28:31,133 or it's nighttime and you have no horizon. 594 00:28:31,166 --> 00:28:32,476 You're over water. 595 00:28:33,016 --> 00:28:34,466 In this situation, 596 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:39,380 you are literally looking only at the instruments. 597 00:28:39,416 --> 00:28:44,046 John Kennedy, he had done some training towards IFR, 598 00:28:44,083 --> 00:28:46,253 but he was not qualified for it. 599 00:28:49,383 --> 00:28:51,353 Lonnstrom: These weather forecasts were wrong. 600 00:28:51,383 --> 00:28:53,423 So he actually is in instrument conditions, 601 00:28:53,450 --> 00:28:55,300 but he doesn't know it. 602 00:28:55,333 --> 00:28:57,353 He needs a horizon to fly. 603 00:28:57,383 --> 00:29:00,283 He's not qualified to fly with his instruments, 604 00:29:00,316 --> 00:29:02,146 so he needs this horizon, 605 00:29:02,183 --> 00:29:04,433 and he needs to keep that plane level with that horizon, 606 00:29:04,466 --> 00:29:07,216 and he sees no horizon, so he can't do that. 607 00:29:07,250 --> 00:29:08,330 It's just pitch black, 608 00:29:08,366 --> 00:29:10,176 and that's where he lost control. 609 00:29:10,216 --> 00:29:13,326 Andersen: He becomes spatially disoriented. 610 00:29:13,366 --> 00:29:15,226 You can't tell up from down or left from right. 611 00:29:15,266 --> 00:29:16,216 You don't know where you are. 612 00:29:16,250 --> 00:29:18,020 Your body is telling you one thing 613 00:29:18,050 --> 00:29:20,370 when the reality is something entirely different. 614 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:22,420 [ Radio chatter ] 615 00:29:24,266 --> 00:29:26,416 The inner ear is saying, 616 00:29:26,450 --> 00:29:29,370 "Hang on. We feel a movement to the left," 617 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:32,030 but the brain's not seeing anything like this movement. 618 00:29:32,066 --> 00:29:33,446 The brain's just seeing nothing, 619 00:29:33,483 --> 00:29:36,353 and now your inner ear is telling you, 620 00:29:36,383 --> 00:29:38,083 "Hang on. We're banking left," but, no, 621 00:29:38,116 --> 00:29:39,366 you're banking, actually, right. 622 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:44,150 What the NTSB suggests happens is he starts the descent, 623 00:29:44,183 --> 00:29:46,103 and he continues a normal descent. 624 00:29:46,133 --> 00:29:49,073 Then he does a turn, then climbs again, 625 00:29:49,100 --> 00:29:51,180 then he does another turn in the opposite direction, 626 00:29:51,216 --> 00:29:56,226 then he climbs again, and then he starts a long descent 627 00:29:56,266 --> 00:29:58,446 which gets steeper and steeper all the way. 628 00:30:01,266 --> 00:30:02,396 Lonnstrom: There's a natural tendency 629 00:30:02,433 --> 00:30:05,273 when you're descending to pull back on the yoke 630 00:30:05,300 --> 00:30:07,420 because that makes the plane go up if you're level. 631 00:30:07,450 --> 00:30:09,400 But if you're already spinning and you pull back on the yoke, 632 00:30:09,433 --> 00:30:12,303 it puts you in the graveyard spiral, 633 00:30:12,333 --> 00:30:15,183 and that's what happened to him. 634 00:30:15,216 --> 00:30:21,146 Quest: What is fascinating is that the line between total success 635 00:30:21,183 --> 00:30:24,303 and absolute catastrophe is very narrow. 636 00:30:24,333 --> 00:30:26,433 He could've been lucky this night, 637 00:30:26,466 --> 00:30:29,346 and he might have just got one glimpse 638 00:30:29,383 --> 00:30:31,253 of one piece of the horizon 639 00:30:31,283 --> 00:30:35,003 that would have allowed him to get control of the aircraft 640 00:30:35,033 --> 00:30:39,033 or see where he was going or manage his flying. 641 00:30:39,066 --> 00:30:43,476 But that line is so narrow, and, of course, 642 00:30:44,016 --> 00:30:45,246 he fell on the wrong side. 643 00:30:45,283 --> 00:30:48,353 Once he started to pull up, he had no chance. 644 00:30:48,383 --> 00:30:51,003 During the NTSB investigation, they looked, 645 00:30:51,033 --> 00:30:52,353 and they said that the airspeed indicator 646 00:30:52,383 --> 00:30:54,203 was mechanically at its highest stop, 647 00:30:54,233 --> 00:30:57,173 meaning he was going in excess of 200 miles an hour. 648 00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:03,480 What we can tell you is that it was a catastrophic crash. 649 00:31:04,016 --> 00:31:05,466 They know that all three people 650 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:09,350 aboard that plane died from the impact. 651 00:31:09,383 --> 00:31:13,283 Among the many, many tragic, heartbreaking ironies 652 00:31:13,316 --> 00:31:16,196 is the fact that John's plane went down within sight 653 00:31:16,233 --> 00:31:19,383 of his mother's beloved Red Gate Farm estate 654 00:31:19,416 --> 00:31:20,476 on Martha's Vineyard. 655 00:31:21,016 --> 00:31:24,226 The plane went down just before 10:00 P.M., 656 00:31:24,266 --> 00:31:26,066 but it was a number of hours 657 00:31:26,100 --> 00:31:28,280 before anyone realized that they were missing. 658 00:31:32,166 --> 00:31:34,266 The phone rang at midnight, 659 00:31:34,300 --> 00:31:37,250 and I got this -- this sick feeling in my stomach, 660 00:31:37,283 --> 00:31:39,203 and it was John's friend Pinkie. 661 00:31:39,233 --> 00:31:42,303 And he said, you know, "Are they there with you? 662 00:31:42,333 --> 00:31:44,483 I'm at the airport, and they're not here." 663 00:31:45,016 --> 00:31:50,176 And then -- and then I thought, "Oh [bleep]" 664 00:31:50,216 --> 00:31:53,046 And I just bolted out of bed. 665 00:31:56,066 --> 00:32:00,066 I spent 15 years as a journalist and producer at ABC News, 666 00:32:00,100 --> 00:32:02,250 and I thought, "Okay, I need to, like, 667 00:32:02,283 --> 00:32:04,323 figure out this story and solve it somehow. 668 00:32:04,350 --> 00:32:07,350 I need to figure out where they are because they're somewhere." 669 00:32:07,383 --> 00:32:10,483 One call led to another to another to another, 670 00:32:11,016 --> 00:32:14,476 and I called the Hyannis airport many times 671 00:32:15,016 --> 00:32:17,326 'cause I assumed that they had made a mistake. 672 00:32:17,366 --> 00:32:20,126 And the whole time, I'm calling John's friend 673 00:32:20,166 --> 00:32:22,076 and screaming into the phone, 674 00:32:22,116 --> 00:32:25,466 "Please, you have to find somebody in John's family 675 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,050 to tell them what's going on." 676 00:32:30,250 --> 00:32:34,080 It was probably between 2:00 or 3:00 when I realized 677 00:32:34,116 --> 00:32:37,446 I had to call the coast guard and report John's plane missing. 678 00:32:37,483 --> 00:32:42,173 I said, "My cousin is missing," and then he took the name, 679 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,070 and I think there was a little bit of a -- 680 00:32:44,100 --> 00:32:48,100 like, a gasp on the other end of the phone. 681 00:32:48,133 --> 00:32:50,203 Andersen: The NTSB launched an investigation 682 00:32:50,233 --> 00:32:51,423 following the crash, and they discovered 683 00:32:51,450 --> 00:32:53,230 that there was something actually on the plane 684 00:32:53,266 --> 00:32:55,076 that could've saved his life. 685 00:32:59,033 --> 00:33:01,253 We'll be including your calls for John F. Ken-- 686 00:33:01,283 --> 00:33:03,253 Do you still use the junior? -No. 687 00:33:03,283 --> 00:33:06,303 I mean, but I don't not use it. 688 00:33:06,333 --> 00:33:08,083 You use the initials? 689 00:33:08,116 --> 00:33:10,396 Sometimes, but generally not. 690 00:33:10,433 --> 00:33:12,253 You're your own man, aren't you, John? 691 00:33:12,283 --> 00:33:14,483 You want your own bewilderment. We'll be right back. 692 00:33:15,016 --> 00:33:16,346 He's in the right business, media. 693 00:33:16,383 --> 00:33:18,323 We'll be right back. Don't go way. 694 00:33:22,033 --> 00:33:24,153 Larrabee: We found the airplane at a location 695 00:33:24,183 --> 00:33:27,483 southwest of Martha's Vineyard. 696 00:33:28,016 --> 00:33:30,096 Hall: In excess of 70% of the aircraft 697 00:33:30,133 --> 00:33:33,153 was brought up to the surface by the United States Navy, 698 00:33:33,183 --> 00:33:36,453 done under the close examination and supervision 699 00:33:36,483 --> 00:33:40,383 of the board investigators. 700 00:33:40,416 --> 00:33:43,446 Larrabee: The plane was in pretty tough shape. 701 00:33:43,483 --> 00:33:46,283 The engine had been driven back into the cockpit. 702 00:33:46,316 --> 00:33:49,246 It looked like it almost had gone in nose-first. 703 00:33:49,283 --> 00:33:52,083 Well, these propellers hit the water with such force 704 00:33:52,116 --> 00:33:55,426 that they were bent into a curve. 705 00:33:55,466 --> 00:34:00,066 Hall: Investigators oversaw the transfer of the wreckage 706 00:34:00,100 --> 00:34:01,400 to a hangar on shore 707 00:34:01,433 --> 00:34:05,423 and a thorough additional investigation of the aircraft 708 00:34:05,450 --> 00:34:08,170 took place that time. 709 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:10,280 Andersen: The NTSB launched an investigation 710 00:34:10,316 --> 00:34:12,016 following the crash, and they discovered 711 00:34:12,050 --> 00:34:13,320 there was something actually on the plane 712 00:34:13,350 --> 00:34:17,350 that could've saved his life. 713 00:34:17,383 --> 00:34:21,223 Arnot: JFK Jr.'s airplane was a very sophisticated aircraft, 714 00:34:21,250 --> 00:34:25,070 and it had an autopilot. 715 00:34:25,100 --> 00:34:28,330 Bailey: So the question that was on everybody's mind was, 716 00:34:28,366 --> 00:34:30,346 "If he could just push one or two buttons, 717 00:34:30,383 --> 00:34:33,223 why did this incident happen?" 718 00:34:33,250 --> 00:34:35,430 Quest: We know from previous flights, 719 00:34:35,466 --> 00:34:38,126 that John Kennedy has played around with this 720 00:34:38,166 --> 00:34:41,426 with his flight instructor, but he has not used it before. 721 00:34:44,333 --> 00:34:46,223 Arnot: So one of the greatest tragedies here 722 00:34:46,250 --> 00:34:49,170 is that there was that fully functioning autopilot 723 00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:52,080 in the aircraft that could've saved his life, 724 00:34:52,116 --> 00:34:54,266 saved the lives of those two young women, 725 00:34:54,300 --> 00:34:56,180 and yet it wasn't engaged. 726 00:34:56,216 --> 00:34:58,026 It seems crazy. 727 00:35:00,100 --> 00:35:03,180 The NTSB report was released about 11 months later. 728 00:35:03,216 --> 00:35:04,446 Hall: The investigation determined 729 00:35:04,483 --> 00:35:07,253 that the probable cause of the accident 730 00:35:07,283 --> 00:35:11,483 was the pilot's spatial disorientation. 731 00:35:12,016 --> 00:35:14,096 Lonnstrom: I believe he made mistakes on this flight. 732 00:35:14,133 --> 00:35:16,023 Some of them are relatively minor 733 00:35:16,050 --> 00:35:19,230 and would not have caused the accident, 734 00:35:19,266 --> 00:35:21,266 but a contributing factor. 735 00:35:21,300 --> 00:35:27,330 Arnot: It's always a chain of events that ends up in a disaster. 736 00:35:27,366 --> 00:35:29,226 The traffic was terrible. 737 00:35:29,266 --> 00:35:31,096 He took off too late. 738 00:35:31,133 --> 00:35:33,003 He didn't have a copilot. 739 00:35:33,033 --> 00:35:35,203 He took a course over the ocean. 740 00:35:35,233 --> 00:35:38,003 He was stressed. 741 00:35:38,033 --> 00:35:41,473 Lonnstrom: The weather forecast certainly shares some blame. 742 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,470 So you take all of these factors together, 743 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:48,100 and they snowball to create this tragedy 744 00:35:48,133 --> 00:35:51,253 that killed JFK Jr. and these two young women. 745 00:35:51,283 --> 00:35:54,323 Cuomo: You just start getting plagued with these two words 746 00:35:54,350 --> 00:35:56,350 that just always surrounded him when he was alive, 747 00:35:56,383 --> 00:36:01,053 and certainly now shadow him in death -- what if? 748 00:36:01,083 --> 00:36:02,133 What if he hadn't flown? 749 00:36:02,166 --> 00:36:04,166 What if he had some other pilot take them? 750 00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:05,400 What if they had driven? 751 00:36:05,433 --> 00:36:07,153 What if? What if? What if? 752 00:36:09,233 --> 00:36:11,383 Larrabee: I survived the World Trade Center. 753 00:36:11,416 --> 00:36:14,246 I was one of the lucky people that survived. 754 00:36:14,283 --> 00:36:19,383 I truly believe that that day people made decisions 755 00:36:19,416 --> 00:36:21,996 of turning right or turning left 756 00:36:22,033 --> 00:36:24,223 and they were life-or-death decisions. 757 00:36:24,250 --> 00:36:27,430 Do I get in an airplane at 8:30 at night on a Friday night 758 00:36:27,466 --> 00:36:30,426 and fly to Martha's Vineyard, or do I wait the next morning? 759 00:36:30,466 --> 00:36:32,396 I mean, if you think about your own life 760 00:36:32,433 --> 00:36:35,323 and the decisions you make every day, 761 00:36:35,350 --> 00:36:39,100 I don't think you could make anybody feel bad 762 00:36:39,133 --> 00:36:41,103 about the fact that he decided to go. 763 00:36:41,133 --> 00:36:44,403 All we know are three young people lost their lives -- 764 00:36:44,433 --> 00:36:47,383 John Kennedy, Carolyn, and Lauren Bessette. 765 00:36:47,416 --> 00:36:50,216 Gary Tuchman is on hand at the -- 766 00:36:50,250 --> 00:36:52,270 in front of the Tribeca, Manhattan, apartment 767 00:36:52,300 --> 00:36:54,120 that was John F. Kennedy Jr.'s. 768 00:36:54,150 --> 00:36:58,170 After he died, there were vigils outside his apartment. 769 00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:04,220 People holding candles, people crying, 770 00:37:04,250 --> 00:37:06,300 people just wanting to be there. 771 00:37:06,333 --> 00:37:09,433 Andersen: Ultimately, the idea of a burial at sea was agreed upon 772 00:37:09,466 --> 00:37:14,326 because John had spoken of it himself not long before. 773 00:37:14,366 --> 00:37:18,296 Within 24 hours of the bodies being pulled up, 774 00:37:18,333 --> 00:37:21,473 we went out to the crash site and scattered the ashes 775 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,050 from urns there from the end of the boat. 776 00:37:24,083 --> 00:37:28,133 Larrabee: That was kind of an amazing end to this story, 777 00:37:28,166 --> 00:37:30,146 when you think about, 778 00:37:30,183 --> 00:37:32,323 we'd only been out there two days before, 779 00:37:32,350 --> 00:37:33,430 searching for three people, 780 00:37:33,466 --> 00:37:36,316 and now they are being buried at sea. 781 00:37:36,350 --> 00:37:40,250 Tuchman: The funeral was held at the St. Thomas More Church 782 00:37:40,283 --> 00:37:42,183 in Manhattan on the Upper East Side. 783 00:37:42,216 --> 00:37:45,016 Radziwill: It was -- it was a really a hard day. 784 00:37:45,050 --> 00:37:47,320 Terenzio: President and Mrs. Clinton and Chelsea were there 785 00:37:47,350 --> 00:37:49,220 and John's whole family, obviously, 786 00:37:49,250 --> 00:37:51,170 and Muhammad Ali was there, 787 00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:54,380 and it was a beautiful service. 788 00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:59,170 Amanpour: Wyclef Jean sang at the funeral, 789 00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:02,100 and I just remember falling apart at that. 790 00:38:02,133 --> 00:38:04,373 It was really emotional. 791 00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:07,470 Cuomo: Senator Ted Kennedy was a huge figure in John's life, 792 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,200 and he was also the head of the family. 793 00:38:10,233 --> 00:38:13,333 So when John died, it made sense 794 00:38:13,366 --> 00:38:15,366 that we were going to hear from the senator, 795 00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:18,170 but the eulogy that he gave 796 00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:22,200 wound up capturing so much more than people expected. 797 00:38:22,233 --> 00:38:24,303 Here's what he said. 798 00:38:24,333 --> 00:38:25,473 "From the first day of his life, 799 00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,200 John seemed to belong not only to our family 800 00:38:28,233 --> 00:38:30,423 but to the American family. 801 00:38:30,450 --> 00:38:35,230 The whole world knew his name before he did." 802 00:38:35,266 --> 00:38:38,296 Radziwill: "But John was so much more than those long-ago images 803 00:38:38,333 --> 00:38:40,373 emblazoned in our minds." 804 00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:43,070 Andersen: "He was a boy who grew into man for a zest for life 805 00:38:43,100 --> 00:38:44,400 and a love of adventure." 806 00:38:44,433 --> 00:38:48,183 Bailey: "He saw things that could be lost in the glare of a spotlight 807 00:38:48,216 --> 00:38:50,166 and he could laugh at the absurdity 808 00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:52,150 of too much pomp and circumstance." 809 00:38:52,183 --> 00:38:55,303 Arnot: "He drove his own car and flew his own plane, 810 00:38:55,333 --> 00:38:57,433 which is how he wanted it." 811 00:38:57,466 --> 00:39:01,046 Quest: "And for 1,000 days, he was a husband who adored 812 00:39:01,083 --> 00:39:05,323 the wife who became his perfect soul mate." 813 00:39:05,350 --> 00:39:07,470 Tuchman: "He was lost on that troubled night, 814 00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:10,370 but we will always wait for him so that his time, 815 00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:13,130 which was not doubled but cut in half, 816 00:39:13,166 --> 00:39:15,166 will live forever in our memory 817 00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,480 and in our beguiled and broken hearts." 818 00:39:18,016 --> 00:39:21,026 Camerota: "We dared to think in that other Irish phrase 819 00:39:21,066 --> 00:39:25,026 that this John Kennedy would live to comb gray hair 820 00:39:25,066 --> 00:39:27,396 with his beloved Carolyn by his side. 821 00:39:27,433 --> 00:39:34,053 But like his father, he had every gift but length of years." 822 00:39:34,083 --> 00:39:36,483 "We who have loved him from the day he was born 823 00:39:37,016 --> 00:39:40,146 and watched the remarkable man he became, 824 00:39:40,183 --> 00:39:43,053 now bid him farewell." 825 00:39:43,083 --> 00:39:46,403 If you're asking if it's hard being me, it's -- 826 00:39:46,433 --> 00:39:48,353 Well, it's brought you a unique life. 827 00:39:48,383 --> 00:39:50,473 Absolutely, and great opportunities 828 00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,320 and some challenges, 829 00:39:53,350 --> 00:39:56,430 but all in all, I feel very fortunate. 830 00:39:58,033 --> 00:40:00,123 In 2001, a judge granted permission 831 00:40:00,150 --> 00:40:01,350 for the Bessette family 832 00:40:01,383 --> 00:40:04,283 to settle a claim against JFK Jr.'s estate for, 833 00:40:04,316 --> 00:40:06,426 "The wrongful death of their daughters," 834 00:40:06,466 --> 00:40:08,176 with the Bessettes receiving a payout 835 00:40:08,216 --> 00:40:10,296 reportedly in the millions. 836 00:40:10,333 --> 00:40:12,053 But whether or not he's to blame 837 00:40:12,083 --> 00:40:15,323 for the tragic circumstances of their deaths, there's no doubt 838 00:40:15,350 --> 00:40:18,280 John F. Kennedy Jr. lived an extraordinary life -- 839 00:40:18,316 --> 00:40:20,216 a man dedicated to charity work, 840 00:40:20,250 --> 00:40:24,280 his career, his family, and service to our country. 841 00:40:24,316 --> 00:40:25,466 Thanks for watching. 842 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:27,270 Good night. 68555

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