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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:01:12,370 --> 00:01:16,370 www.titlovi.com 2 00:01:19,370 --> 00:01:21,914 Going to Montserrat was like going into a dream. 3 00:01:23,250 --> 00:01:24,668 It's always different. 4 00:01:24,793 --> 00:01:27,629 Reality's always different from what you think it will be. 5 00:01:35,387 --> 00:01:40,391 I love the idea of wilderness on the edge of civilization. 6 00:01:41,185 --> 00:01:48,150 I think the volcano itself is a kind of presiding spirit over the island, 7 00:01:48,275 --> 00:01:50,527 and it definitely gives you a sense 8 00:01:50,652 --> 00:01:54,781 that you're living on the edge of something seismic. 9 00:02:00,787 --> 00:02:05,042 When the volcano went off, that was a pinnacle point of change. 10 00:02:05,167 --> 00:02:08,752 A point where nothing was ever gonna be quite the same again. 11 00:02:08,877 --> 00:02:13,592 In the way we recorded, in the way that music was dealt with. 12 00:02:13,717 --> 00:02:16,929 Those magical moments are gonna be no longer. 13 00:02:20,473 --> 00:02:24,436 It was a glorious dream that George Martin had. 14 00:02:24,561 --> 00:02:27,271 And it's so sad, as always, 15 00:02:27,396 --> 00:02:32,860 to see a glorious dream come to an end and be destroyed. 16 00:02:33,861 --> 00:02:35,948 It's Atlantis now, isn't it? 17 00:03:54,317 --> 00:03:57,570 Montserrat's in the Caribbean. It's very close to Antigua. 18 00:03:57,695 --> 00:04:01,157 But because it's so small, it really is that hidden gem. 19 00:04:01,282 --> 00:04:04,243 They used to call it the Hidden Gem and the Emerald Isle of the Caribbean. 20 00:04:04,368 --> 00:04:07,830 Montserrat was colonized by the Irish. That's why the island is so different 21 00:04:07,955 --> 00:04:11,877 because it's just a really friendly place, it's just got a magic about it. 22 00:04:18,257 --> 00:04:20,177 We had one big superstar. 23 00:04:20,302 --> 00:04:24,264 Mighty Arrow. Everybody around the world would know Arrow, Hot Hot Hot. 24 00:04:24,389 --> 00:04:26,850 That's our music. We call it soca music. 25 00:04:27,809 --> 00:04:30,228 Soca is a hybrid of calypso music. 26 00:04:30,353 --> 00:04:35,274 Calypso music originated in Nigeria and came to the West Indies. 27 00:04:35,399 --> 00:04:38,528 These islands, you know, they were part of the slave trade. 28 00:04:38,653 --> 00:04:41,531 And then you had the calypso carnivals. 29 00:04:45,911 --> 00:04:48,204 Montserrat is just a lovely place. 30 00:04:48,329 --> 00:04:50,874 There is an atmosphere in Montserrat 31 00:04:50,999 --> 00:04:53,752 that just makes you want to live in Montserrat. 32 00:04:57,004 --> 00:05:00,216 There was no doubt there was a magic on Montserrat. 33 00:05:00,341 --> 00:05:03,678 This island was kind of untouched. 34 00:05:03,803 --> 00:05:08,391 There were no big corporate signs for chain restaurants. 35 00:05:08,516 --> 00:05:10,810 And here was no American money in there, 36 00:05:10,935 --> 00:05:14,689 just these old shacks and tin roofs, 37 00:05:14,814 --> 00:05:17,817 and brightly colored and painted beautifully. 38 00:05:17,942 --> 00:05:20,403 And you felt as though you were in a time warp. 39 00:05:20,528 --> 00:05:24,824 This little island had a heart that you could feel, you know? 40 00:05:27,786 --> 00:05:31,665 It didn't have the sophistication you'd feel straight away 41 00:05:31,790 --> 00:05:35,711 if you went to Antigua or anywhere else like that. 42 00:05:35,836 --> 00:05:39,463 It was far more innocent, far more quiet. 43 00:05:41,007 --> 00:05:43,259 There's definitely a mystique about the island. 44 00:05:43,384 --> 00:05:45,678 It's quite a place, actually. It's really dramatic. 45 00:05:45,803 --> 00:05:48,891 These, you know, very sheer cliffs. 46 00:05:49,016 --> 00:05:51,350 And, of course, the fertility of the island 47 00:05:51,475 --> 00:05:56,606 is a function of this volcanic ash that comes down periodically. 48 00:05:56,731 --> 00:05:58,942 It hadn't come down for a long time, 49 00:05:59,067 --> 00:06:03,029 but the island was blooming and blossoming, everything grew. 50 00:06:03,154 --> 00:06:07,492 I often wonder why George Martin chose a volcanic island 51 00:06:07,617 --> 00:06:09,952 to put his beautiful studio on. 52 00:06:18,504 --> 00:06:22,298 Originally, Dad, he was a mad visionary in lots of ways. 53 00:06:22,423 --> 00:06:24,718 I think always liked the idea of pushing boundaries. 54 00:06:24,843 --> 00:06:26,845 Think about what he did with the Beatles in the '60s. 55 00:06:26,970 --> 00:06:29,348 He pushed the boundaries with the recording studios. 56 00:06:29,473 --> 00:06:30,891 He wanted to do something different. 57 00:06:31,432 --> 00:06:33,435 I bust a string straight away. 58 00:06:35,896 --> 00:06:38,356 There were some great moments singing, Paul, but it wasn't the one. 59 00:06:38,481 --> 00:06:41,317 It's the second one out of every three is the one. 60 00:06:41,442 --> 00:06:44,612 Do you want to hear any of it before you do any more or go straight for another? 61 00:06:44,737 --> 00:06:47,281 They either say that George Martin did everything 62 00:06:47,406 --> 00:06:49,701 or the Beatles did everything. It was neither one, you know? 63 00:06:50,409 --> 00:06:55,624 He had a very great musical knowledge and background. 64 00:06:55,749 --> 00:06:58,668 So he could translate for us and suggest a lot of things. 65 00:06:58,793 --> 00:07:00,754 We'd be saying we want it to go... 66 00:07:00,879 --> 00:07:02,505 ooo-ooo and eee-eee. 67 00:07:02,630 --> 00:07:06,259 He'd say, "Well, look, chaps, I thought of this this afternoon." 68 00:07:06,384 --> 00:07:08,971 Last night, I was talking to..." whoever he was talking to. 69 00:07:09,096 --> 00:07:10,596 "And I came up with this." 70 00:07:10,721 --> 00:07:13,641 And we'd say, "Great. Great. We'll put it on here." 71 00:07:13,766 --> 00:07:16,310 It's hard to say who did what, you know? 72 00:07:16,435 --> 00:07:18,605 I mean, he taught us a lot. I'm sure we taught him a lot. 73 00:07:18,730 --> 00:07:21,358 A record producer is not like a film producer. 74 00:07:21,483 --> 00:07:23,985 A record producer is much more like a film director. 75 00:07:24,110 --> 00:07:27,072 One thing that was unique to George that a lot of producers didn't have 76 00:07:27,197 --> 00:07:29,824 is that he was also the arranger. 77 00:07:29,949 --> 00:07:33,620 That's very often a completely different person, different element. 78 00:07:33,745 --> 00:07:35,663 In George's case, his work as an arranger 79 00:07:35,788 --> 00:07:39,250 would be, for example, the strings in Eleanor Rigby or something. 80 00:07:39,375 --> 00:07:42,420 If you think of some of the famous producers of our time, 81 00:07:42,545 --> 00:07:45,632 the wall of sound, Phil Spector, 82 00:07:45,757 --> 00:07:48,802 where he controlled every note of every instrument 83 00:07:48,927 --> 00:07:52,430 and was just a tyrant and stuff, George was not at all like that. 84 00:07:52,555 --> 00:07:55,391 But there was a serious element 85 00:07:55,516 --> 00:08:01,273 of just kind of good Pythonesque British crazy in there. 86 00:08:01,398 --> 00:08:02,733 Just a lovely combination. 87 00:08:13,035 --> 00:08:17,581 He knew how to get from you the best that you could give. 88 00:08:17,706 --> 00:08:20,167 Which was extraordinary, in the most wonderful way. 89 00:08:20,292 --> 00:08:24,086 Elegant, gentlemanly, loving, nurturing way. 90 00:08:24,213 --> 00:08:26,923 He would make any musician a much better musician 91 00:08:27,048 --> 00:08:28,675 by spending five minutes with them. 92 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:31,677 You can put a very soft flute against a huge brass chord 93 00:08:31,802 --> 00:08:33,138 and still make it sound loud. 94 00:08:33,263 --> 00:08:35,807 And then cut up the tape, threw it up in the air, 95 00:08:35,932 --> 00:08:38,393 until it settled down on the ground, and joined them up again together. 96 00:08:38,519 --> 00:08:42,312 So it just became like a patchwork quilt. 97 00:08:42,437 --> 00:08:44,357 This is the kind of thing you can do on a recording, 98 00:08:44,482 --> 00:08:46,442 which you obviously couldn't possibly do it live 99 00:08:46,567 --> 00:08:48,528 because it is making up music as you go along. 100 00:08:48,653 --> 00:08:52,573 He's largely responsible, along with the Beatles, 101 00:08:52,698 --> 00:08:57,955 for giving everybody that came after them in music a career. 102 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:03,501 What the Beatles did with their albums, no one will ever top that. 103 00:09:04,001 --> 00:09:07,380 It is a moment in history that may one day be known 104 00:09:07,505 --> 00:09:11,092 as the day the British Empire was no more. 105 00:09:11,217 --> 00:09:15,221 The Beatles have decided to call it a day. 106 00:09:15,346 --> 00:09:17,515 Well, a lot of things happened at that time. 107 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:21,436 Obviously, the Beatles broke up, and so, George was free from EMI. 108 00:09:21,562 --> 00:09:23,813 So I guess he became his own boss. 109 00:09:23,938 --> 00:09:26,859 But frankly, if you're known as the Beatles' producer, 110 00:09:26,984 --> 00:09:28,402 anything you do after that, 111 00:09:28,527 --> 00:09:31,488 it's virtually impossible to get anywhere near that. 112 00:09:31,613 --> 00:09:33,573 I think my dad was tired of the confines 113 00:09:33,698 --> 00:09:35,741 of a very rigid company structure, 114 00:09:35,868 --> 00:09:38,578 which was Abbey Road, or EMI Studios as it was at the time. 115 00:09:38,703 --> 00:09:41,623 And he wanted to build a place which was more artist friendly. 116 00:09:41,748 --> 00:09:43,875 Abbey Road obviously created great music, 117 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:45,668 but they always found... 118 00:09:45,793 --> 00:09:47,587 I mean, the fridge was locked every night. 119 00:09:47,712 --> 00:09:51,216 They had to break in to get milk for their cups of tea. 120 00:09:51,341 --> 00:09:54,427 Even the loo roll had Abbey Road on it, so you wouldn't steal it. 121 00:09:54,552 --> 00:09:57,431 It was very much a... It was like a proper English factory. 122 00:09:57,556 --> 00:10:01,225 There's no doubt in my mind that George had a vision 123 00:10:01,350 --> 00:10:04,730 of how recording could or should be done. 124 00:10:04,855 --> 00:10:10,903 Through the '70s was a period of great excess in the music business. 125 00:10:11,403 --> 00:10:17,075 Um, it was an era when there wasn't such a thing as a budget. 126 00:10:17,201 --> 00:10:19,577 There was a need to make some music. 127 00:10:19,702 --> 00:10:23,289 The '70s was one of the most exciting periods 128 00:10:23,414 --> 00:10:25,958 in musical recording time. 129 00:10:26,083 --> 00:10:28,544 And a few times, I've been in EMI, Abbey Road, 130 00:10:28,669 --> 00:10:33,049 and normally I would bump into George, but he wasn't there. 131 00:10:33,174 --> 00:10:36,010 And I wondered what was going on, and they said, 132 00:10:36,135 --> 00:10:39,514 "He's making his own studio now. AIR London it's gonna be called." 133 00:10:47,188 --> 00:10:48,565 We had four studios. 134 00:10:48,690 --> 00:10:51,400 Oxford Circus, right in the middle of town. 135 00:10:51,527 --> 00:10:55,113 And it was so successful, you know, it was a hit factory. 136 00:11:25,686 --> 00:11:28,563 There's a momentum shift which happens with successful studios. 137 00:11:28,688 --> 00:11:30,691 But I think my dad wanted to do something different 138 00:11:30,816 --> 00:11:31,817 in the recording space. 139 00:11:31,942 --> 00:11:33,610 He wanted to record in a different location. 140 00:11:33,735 --> 00:11:35,903 Then he built AIR and he thought, "Where next?" 141 00:11:36,028 --> 00:11:39,032 George was looking for something, you know, 142 00:11:39,157 --> 00:11:41,201 which wasn't in the middle of London. 143 00:11:41,326 --> 00:11:44,913 Somewhere where the people could come and record, 144 00:11:45,038 --> 00:11:48,500 and his plan was there'd be a lack of hangers-on. 145 00:11:48,625 --> 00:11:51,461 It would just be them and their families. 146 00:11:51,586 --> 00:11:55,340 Then he had an idea that he would put a studio on a boat. 147 00:11:55,465 --> 00:11:57,801 He had a boat in line, which we went and looked at, 148 00:11:57,926 --> 00:12:01,096 a great big, big boat, and we were going to put a studio in the middle 149 00:12:01,221 --> 00:12:04,015 so we could go to anywhere in the world and record people. 150 00:12:04,140 --> 00:12:08,312 Then he realized that just the diesel generators would make a noise 151 00:12:08,437 --> 00:12:10,188 in every single recording he made. 152 00:12:10,313 --> 00:12:13,649 So then he looked at islands, looked at Island Paradise, 153 00:12:13,774 --> 00:12:17,070 looked at that idea about building a studio and found Montserrat. 154 00:12:17,196 --> 00:12:19,697 And suddenly, he comes up to me and says, 155 00:12:19,822 --> 00:12:22,576 "Dave, we're flying out to Montserrat. I want to show you something. 156 00:12:22,701 --> 00:12:25,745 I've just bought a house and I've bought an estate, 157 00:12:25,870 --> 00:12:28,624 and I want you to build a studio there." 158 00:12:33,378 --> 00:12:35,588 I'd read about Montserrat in a Canadian magazine. 159 00:12:35,713 --> 00:12:38,049 They described it, "The Emerald Isle of the Caribbean." 160 00:12:38,174 --> 00:12:40,594 So, I went there for a few days and fell in love with the place, 161 00:12:40,719 --> 00:12:45,057 and with the people, because they're such gentle people. 162 00:12:45,182 --> 00:12:49,019 And I loved it so much, I bought a place, simple as that. 163 00:12:49,144 --> 00:12:51,772 Montserrat, for George, was something more 164 00:12:51,897 --> 00:12:54,607 than just a commercial operation. 165 00:12:54,732 --> 00:12:57,068 He'd fallen in love with Montserrat. 166 00:12:58,195 --> 00:13:00,447 And he had something else in his mind, 167 00:13:00,572 --> 00:13:06,202 just to be able to tie in creativity with being in a special place. 168 00:13:06,912 --> 00:13:10,749 George's idea was to take people out of an environment, 169 00:13:10,874 --> 00:13:13,335 to put them into harmony with nature, 170 00:13:13,460 --> 00:13:18,298 but also have time together to talk, to have dialogue. 171 00:13:18,423 --> 00:13:19,966 And what he knew would happen 172 00:13:20,091 --> 00:13:22,970 was that for a lot of bands who had never been in that situation, 173 00:13:23,095 --> 00:13:29,475 that would evoke new ways of thinking, and therefore, new musical ideas. 174 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:31,687 If you look at Montserrat on a map or had visited it 175 00:13:31,812 --> 00:13:34,105 at that stage in 1976, '77, 176 00:13:34,230 --> 00:13:36,399 you'd never think, "Let's build a recording studios here." 177 00:13:36,524 --> 00:13:39,360 In the same way you start building the studios, you don't think, 178 00:13:39,485 --> 00:13:42,655 "Let's get Rupert Neve to build a custom desk and put it in this space." 179 00:13:42,780 --> 00:13:46,201 The heart of any studio is the mixing console. 180 00:13:46,326 --> 00:13:50,538 Geoff Emerick was quite involved in what was gonna go on in Montserrat. 181 00:13:50,663 --> 00:13:57,044 So Geoff didn't want to use a current type of Neve console. 182 00:13:57,171 --> 00:13:59,423 So Rupert redesigned the desk. 183 00:13:59,548 --> 00:14:04,260 He said, "It will wipe everything else off the planet, this desk." 184 00:14:04,385 --> 00:14:06,053 AIR Studios, part of AIR's fame 185 00:14:06,179 --> 00:14:12,101 was that it had these three incredible-sounding Neve consoles. 186 00:14:12,226 --> 00:14:14,062 And they had one at AIR Montserrat. 187 00:14:14,187 --> 00:14:18,066 Neve desks, to me, it sounded musical. 188 00:14:18,192 --> 00:14:20,152 You could actually tune into something, 189 00:14:20,277 --> 00:14:22,111 you could bring out the character of something. 190 00:14:28,118 --> 00:14:31,370 Putting a recording desk in a studios 191 00:14:31,495 --> 00:14:33,164 in a big city has its own problems. 192 00:14:33,289 --> 00:14:36,501 Putting a recording studio on Montserrat, 193 00:14:36,626 --> 00:14:40,004 which really had no transport links at all at that stage, 194 00:14:40,129 --> 00:14:42,381 was the ultimate challenge. 195 00:14:42,508 --> 00:14:47,303 And it was very brave of them, too, because if something went really wrong, 196 00:14:47,428 --> 00:14:51,265 your closest port of call was Miami. 197 00:14:51,390 --> 00:14:54,852 You can imagine this huge two-ton box, 198 00:14:55,979 --> 00:14:58,899 with the most extraordinary piece of equipment inside of it, 199 00:14:59,024 --> 00:15:01,567 with about 30 builders all round it, 200 00:15:01,692 --> 00:15:05,364 and they rolled it off the back of the truck onto the oil drums. 201 00:15:29,388 --> 00:15:31,472 He's recognized as the greatest record producer 202 00:15:31,597 --> 00:15:33,642 the industry has seen. George Martin. 203 00:15:35,394 --> 00:15:38,772 What are you up to right now? You have an interest in a studio abroad. 204 00:15:38,897 --> 00:15:41,567 Recently, I built a studio out in the Caribbean. 205 00:15:41,692 --> 00:15:44,318 This reminds me of it, by the way. 206 00:15:44,443 --> 00:15:46,238 So I spend quite a lot of time out there. 207 00:15:46,363 --> 00:15:48,740 And that was Montserrat in the West Indies. 208 00:15:48,865 --> 00:15:50,491 I hope I get a lot of people there. 209 00:16:01,378 --> 00:16:06,091 We were, I believe, the second band that recorded there, 210 00:16:06,216 --> 00:16:09,135 and, you know, I love island culture and I love the island people, 211 00:16:09,260 --> 00:16:13,264 and I lived on my boat off and on down there for 20 years. 212 00:16:13,389 --> 00:16:17,144 So I didn't have to go back to London or New York or Nashville to record it. 213 00:16:17,811 --> 00:16:20,898 And I was able to take those songs that were written there 214 00:16:21,023 --> 00:16:24,942 and go into that studio that was built by George Martin. 215 00:16:25,067 --> 00:16:28,029 You couldn't get anybody who had a better reputation at that time. 216 00:16:28,154 --> 00:16:30,365 It was a lovely working environment 217 00:16:30,490 --> 00:16:34,912 because you didn't leave, I would say, the arena of creativity. 218 00:16:35,037 --> 00:16:38,706 You were constantly involved in the creation of this music, 219 00:16:38,831 --> 00:16:40,667 as opposed to, like, being in Nashville, 220 00:16:40,792 --> 00:16:43,961 because to me, there are two ways that you go into the studio. 221 00:16:44,086 --> 00:16:47,966 You can go in and look for perfection, or you can try to capture the magic. 222 00:16:48,091 --> 00:16:50,469 I've always been a "capture the magic" guy. 223 00:17:13,406 --> 00:17:17,118 But then, we had a few problems. 224 00:17:17,246 --> 00:17:19,704 At the time, they were not funny 225 00:17:19,829 --> 00:17:22,875 because there was a bit of a colonial aspect to things 226 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:25,461 that did not fare well with the American band. 227 00:17:25,586 --> 00:17:28,882 We were in having drinks, meeting everybody. 228 00:17:29,007 --> 00:17:30,843 As we went to order the drinks, 229 00:17:30,968 --> 00:17:33,554 you had to do it one at a time and have a slip down, 230 00:17:33,679 --> 00:17:36,097 you had to put it in and pay for it at the time. 231 00:17:36,222 --> 00:17:39,643 And this did not go over well with the Coral Reefer Band. 232 00:17:39,768 --> 00:17:44,272 So the studio manager at the time, a guy named Denny Bridges, I remember, 233 00:17:44,397 --> 00:17:51,028 I said, "This is kinda odd for us, sir. Can't we kind of speed this up? 234 00:17:51,153 --> 00:17:53,155 We can have fun here, 235 00:17:53,281 --> 00:17:55,909 but we're here for two hours trying to pay for the drinks." 236 00:17:56,034 --> 00:17:57,786 He said, "That's just the way we do it here." 237 00:17:57,911 --> 00:18:02,290 And I just said, "Why don't I just buy the whole fucking bar?" 238 00:18:13,134 --> 00:18:14,928 The thing was when we first got there, 239 00:18:15,053 --> 00:18:17,890 we didn't know what we were gonna call the record. 240 00:18:18,015 --> 00:18:19,307 And we saw the volcano. 241 00:18:19,432 --> 00:18:23,478 This was a dormant volcano that was, like, a tourist attraction. 242 00:18:23,604 --> 00:18:28,025 You could walk from, like, here to you and that was the vent of the volcano. 243 00:18:28,150 --> 00:18:29,984 It was... 244 00:18:30,109 --> 00:18:35,574 It was kind of fun to go up there, and I was intrigued by that volcano 245 00:18:35,699 --> 00:18:39,411 that was, you know, sitting there that was so accessible. 246 00:18:39,536 --> 00:18:41,246 The volcano. 247 00:18:41,371 --> 00:18:45,584 I don't think anybody gave the volcano more than a sort of sideways glance 248 00:18:45,709 --> 00:18:46,835 when we went down there. 249 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:52,132 There was this thing called a soufriere, which was a bubbling sulfur springs, 250 00:18:52,257 --> 00:18:54,509 but it was seen as one of the local tourist attractions. 251 00:18:54,634 --> 00:18:56,470 It wasn't seen as anything dangerous. 252 00:18:56,595 --> 00:19:00,097 I was always like, "Are you sure you wanna be on this island with this?" 253 00:19:00,223 --> 00:19:03,268 Because the volcano was always sort of not going off, 254 00:19:03,393 --> 00:19:07,730 but it was always, like, a possibility. It was never, like, completely quiet. 255 00:19:07,855 --> 00:19:11,151 You'd sit on the veranda and just listen. 256 00:19:11,276 --> 00:19:15,948 And... I remember thinking a few times, 257 00:19:16,073 --> 00:19:19,451 "Well, what if that volcano suddenly went off?" 258 00:19:19,576 --> 00:19:22,162 I'm from Chicago, we don't do volcanoes. 259 00:19:35,217 --> 00:19:36,718 When we went to Montserrat, 260 00:19:36,844 --> 00:19:38,427 we had been coming off all those hit records, 261 00:19:38,554 --> 00:19:41,848 those big hits, and we wanted to pull away from that 262 00:19:41,973 --> 00:19:46,144 and be grounded, cos we were musicians first. 263 00:19:46,269 --> 00:19:48,896 So we wanted to go back to our roots and just play some music. 264 00:19:51,900 --> 00:19:56,822 For us, the biggest thing was the whole experience of just going there. 265 00:19:56,947 --> 00:20:01,993 And I had heard the ladies that were working in the field with the machetes, 266 00:20:02,118 --> 00:20:05,955 when they were bringing our equipment from the airport to the studio, 267 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:09,500 you know, the big cases with Earth, Wind & Fire on them, 268 00:20:09,625 --> 00:20:12,378 they had their machetes and they dropped them and applauded. 269 00:20:13,380 --> 00:20:16,592 Cos they knew we were coming. They just applauded the cases. 270 00:20:16,717 --> 00:20:19,845 We hadn't even gotten there yet. And it was beautiful. 271 00:20:36,444 --> 00:20:40,907 If anything, I think because of where it was, 272 00:20:41,032 --> 00:20:43,326 it touched our spirit in a different kind of way. 273 00:20:43,451 --> 00:20:46,663 You didn't feel anything other than just joy in the music. 274 00:20:46,788 --> 00:20:49,415 There was no rush either, there was no clock. 275 00:20:49,540 --> 00:20:51,751 And by being away from everything and everybody 276 00:20:51,876 --> 00:20:54,462 and from, "We need another hit record, we need another hit record." 277 00:20:54,587 --> 00:20:57,465 And we just put that aside, and said, "We're gonna do a double record." 278 00:20:57,590 --> 00:21:00,384 You know... And we're just gonna play some music. 279 00:21:00,510 --> 00:21:04,556 And we actually mapped out the whole record there. 280 00:21:04,681 --> 00:21:06,974 Top to bottom, just in conversation. 281 00:21:07,099 --> 00:21:10,354 It was the early '80s. Record company budgets were reasonable, 282 00:21:10,479 --> 00:21:15,192 and afforded artists to go and take over a studio for a while, 283 00:21:15,317 --> 00:21:16,567 a residential studio. 284 00:21:16,692 --> 00:21:20,321 So when you went to Montserrat, it was yours. 285 00:21:20,446 --> 00:21:22,156 It was your environment. 286 00:21:22,281 --> 00:21:26,577 Your bar, your kitchen, your whole place. 287 00:21:26,702 --> 00:21:31,458 So it was something that was really quite special. 288 00:21:31,583 --> 00:21:35,336 There weren't many residential studios of that quality. 289 00:21:35,461 --> 00:21:40,259 It was like it was all one big band. It was like everybody was in the band. 290 00:21:40,384 --> 00:21:44,387 George the cook was in the band, the housekeeper was in the band. 291 00:21:44,512 --> 00:21:47,266 It just all kind of overlapped, it was not separate. 292 00:21:47,391 --> 00:21:50,102 It was like one big beautiful thing. 293 00:21:50,227 --> 00:21:53,145 Earth, Wind & Fire were very lovely. 294 00:21:53,271 --> 00:21:55,941 They came right here in this house. 295 00:21:56,066 --> 00:22:00,570 I invite them to come for dinner. Some of them came. 296 00:22:00,695 --> 00:22:04,115 And when they came, I had a daughter, a pretty daughter. 297 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:05,867 One of them wanted the daughter, 298 00:22:05,992 --> 00:22:09,328 but he didn't get that chance. 299 00:22:09,453 --> 00:22:12,958 The staff all had their own quirks. 300 00:22:13,083 --> 00:22:14,917 Blues, one of the drivers, 301 00:22:15,042 --> 00:22:17,837 whenever he wanted to say something, he'd go, "Let me talk." 302 00:22:17,962 --> 00:22:20,757 Earth, Wind & Fire have a track on that album called Let Me Talk. 303 00:22:20,883 --> 00:22:24,928 For a band to come in and write a song about a driver, 304 00:22:25,053 --> 00:22:26,888 must've had an influence. 305 00:22:27,013 --> 00:22:29,473 I think in order to build a studio that people love, 306 00:22:29,599 --> 00:22:31,518 it's all based around the staff. 307 00:22:31,643 --> 00:22:33,644 Montserrat was a bit like Fawlty Towers. 308 00:22:33,769 --> 00:22:36,147 It had these crazy characters running around. 309 00:22:36,272 --> 00:22:40,568 Because it was a single studio space, with no other bands there, 310 00:22:40,693 --> 00:22:43,614 the characters that worked in the studios themselves 311 00:22:43,739 --> 00:22:45,656 became part of people's lives. 312 00:22:45,781 --> 00:22:48,576 Tappy Morgan, or George Morgan, was the chef. 313 00:22:48,701 --> 00:22:50,037 He was great. He was very emotional. 314 00:22:50,162 --> 00:22:53,457 We all remember George, the chef, I think. 315 00:22:54,374 --> 00:22:57,376 He was quite an imposing gentleman. 316 00:22:57,502 --> 00:22:59,587 That was the best job 317 00:22:59,712 --> 00:23:00,963 I ever had in my entire life. 318 00:23:01,088 --> 00:23:06,135 Every band... gave me a big tip. 319 00:23:06,260 --> 00:23:08,055 And you know the reason why? 320 00:23:08,180 --> 00:23:11,349 Because I made them good food. And everybody was happy. 321 00:23:11,474 --> 00:23:16,104 Phil Collins, Eric Clapton, Mick Jagger, Keith Richards, Paul McCartney. 322 00:23:16,230 --> 00:23:21,984 All the guys liked the island. They called it Strangers' Paradise. 323 00:23:34,830 --> 00:23:36,375 Do you want something else to drink? 324 00:23:54,183 --> 00:23:59,272 We would all be in the office, and we had this telex machine. 325 00:23:59,397 --> 00:24:02,901 Remember we didn't have email or any of this stuff in those days. 326 00:24:03,026 --> 00:24:07,071 We would be there, and suddenly you would hear tap, tap, tap... 327 00:24:07,196 --> 00:24:10,241 And we would walk out there and have a look. 328 00:24:10,366 --> 00:24:14,954 "Paul McCartney, 2nd February to 28th February." 329 00:24:15,079 --> 00:24:16,414 And that would be it. 330 00:24:21,627 --> 00:24:23,087 Something like that. 331 00:24:31,721 --> 00:24:34,473 I know what it is. You need to go to the G. 332 00:24:38,228 --> 00:24:41,731 After the Beatles, none of us wanted to work with George. 333 00:24:41,856 --> 00:24:44,776 It wasn't that we didn't want to be produced by him. 334 00:24:44,902 --> 00:24:50,240 We all would have loved the discipline and the expertise that George has, 335 00:24:50,365 --> 00:24:52,326 but it was that he'd been associated with the Beatles. 336 00:24:52,451 --> 00:24:54,702 We were very apprehensive about it to begin with, 337 00:24:54,827 --> 00:24:55,871 both of us I think, 338 00:24:55,996 --> 00:24:59,165 because although we've been very good friends over the years, 339 00:24:59,290 --> 00:25:04,212 not having actually had to have the hassles of working, 340 00:25:04,337 --> 00:25:07,007 we were all a little bit not sure about it. 341 00:25:07,132 --> 00:25:11,886 At that stage, Paul was working with my father near London 342 00:25:12,011 --> 00:25:14,765 on two albums, Tug of War and Pipes of Peace, 343 00:25:14,890 --> 00:25:17,226 and my father persuaded Paul to go to Montserrat. 344 00:25:17,351 --> 00:25:21,438 Because I was the chief engineer, I got the call from George, like, 345 00:25:21,563 --> 00:25:23,231 "You built this place." 346 00:25:23,356 --> 00:25:27,109 If Paul McCartney's coming in and it's a success, 347 00:25:27,236 --> 00:25:29,820 it's like getting the housekeeping seal of approval. 348 00:25:29,946 --> 00:25:31,656 So, it better work. 349 00:25:31,781 --> 00:25:35,618 It's now 14 hours since John Lennon was shot here, 350 00:25:35,743 --> 00:25:39,330 at the entrance to the Dakota Building on West 72nd Street 351 00:25:39,455 --> 00:25:42,084 in the center of New York. In those 14 hours, 352 00:25:42,209 --> 00:25:46,046 there has been a crowd here standing in more or less silent vigils. 353 00:25:46,171 --> 00:25:49,048 The flowers have been piling up at the gate. 354 00:25:58,767 --> 00:26:01,435 I feel frightfully sorry for Yoko and Sean, 355 00:26:01,561 --> 00:26:04,064 and all the people who loved him so much. 356 00:26:04,189 --> 00:26:07,901 I also feel very angry, that it's such a senseless thing to happen, 357 00:26:08,026 --> 00:26:11,153 that one of the great people that have happened this century 358 00:26:11,279 --> 00:26:14,365 can be just wiped out by madness. I'm very angry about it. 359 00:26:21,455 --> 00:26:22,790 Paul came down to the island, 360 00:26:22,915 --> 00:26:25,877 sadly only a few weeks after Lennon died. 361 00:26:26,002 --> 00:26:28,881 And it was touch and go before Christmas 362 00:26:29,006 --> 00:26:31,549 as to whether this actually was going to happen. 363 00:26:31,674 --> 00:26:34,595 They were very, very nervous. 364 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:38,015 An entire security firm from New York City flew down 365 00:26:38,140 --> 00:26:39,932 ahead of the band arriving. 366 00:26:41,018 --> 00:26:45,855 And they would go everywhere, just to protect the band. 367 00:26:45,980 --> 00:26:49,317 And they didn't even have a good time, because they were just being a nuisance. 368 00:26:49,442 --> 00:26:51,153 You don't need that security in Montserrat. 369 00:26:52,028 --> 00:26:54,573 You need to understand, that in Montserrat, 370 00:26:54,698 --> 00:26:59,994 if you're a cricketer or an athlete, 371 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,079 people will be asking for your autograph. 372 00:27:02,205 --> 00:27:06,042 If you're a musician, they hear you on the radio all the time, no big deal. 373 00:27:06,167 --> 00:27:08,336 So they sent their security guards packing. 374 00:27:08,461 --> 00:27:12,508 They would chill out in Kinsale, in Salem, at the local bars. 375 00:27:12,633 --> 00:27:14,550 Just chill out like how we are right now, 376 00:27:14,675 --> 00:27:17,304 and drink and get drunk and carry on and all of that, no big deal. 377 00:27:52,923 --> 00:27:56,175 Paul turned up with a whole entourage of stars. 378 00:27:56,300 --> 00:27:59,846 Through Carl Perkins and Stanley Clarke on bass 379 00:27:59,971 --> 00:28:01,765 and Stevie Wonder, of course. 380 00:28:01,890 --> 00:28:03,851 I had this song called Ebony and Ivory, 381 00:28:03,976 --> 00:28:06,394 which is about harmony between races. 382 00:28:06,519 --> 00:28:08,271 Because it was Ebony and Ivory, 383 00:28:08,396 --> 00:28:11,275 I thought, "I'll be the ivory, so I need an ebony." 384 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:15,653 So, I thought my best choice would be Stevie Wonder, if I could get him. 385 00:28:15,778 --> 00:28:21,159 So, I telephoned Stevie and said, "Do you like the idea of doing this?" 386 00:28:21,285 --> 00:28:24,829 And he said, "Yeah." So he came down to Montserrat. 387 00:28:47,769 --> 00:28:50,897 I think they liked the whole experience. 388 00:28:51,022 --> 00:28:55,943 When the recording was going well and everything was happening, 389 00:28:56,068 --> 00:28:59,280 they'd take some time off, and they wanted to go and play. 390 00:28:59,405 --> 00:29:02,659 So they'd go down to the local bar and they would jam. 391 00:29:02,992 --> 00:29:05,578 There was one night, Stevie said to me, 392 00:29:05,703 --> 00:29:08,664 "I wanna go and play somewhere. Can you fix it up?" I said, "Sure." 393 00:29:08,789 --> 00:29:13,377 I phoned up the Agouti and I said, "Is your piano plugged in on the stage?" 394 00:29:13,503 --> 00:29:16,173 And they said, "Yeah, but we're just about to close." 395 00:29:16,298 --> 00:29:20,259 And I said, "No, don't do that. Don't you close tonight." 396 00:29:20,384 --> 00:29:22,471 And Stevie went down there and played. 397 00:29:22,596 --> 00:29:25,265 He played there till four in the morning. 398 00:29:37,818 --> 00:29:39,529 So, at the end of the night... 399 00:29:39,654 --> 00:29:42,324 At that time, we were playing for ten percent of the bar. 400 00:29:42,449 --> 00:29:45,493 Whatever the bar take was, we would get ten percent. 401 00:29:45,618 --> 00:29:48,329 That night, we got a lot of money 402 00:29:48,454 --> 00:29:52,542 because Stevie Wonder left US$5.000 in the bar for the band. 403 00:29:52,667 --> 00:29:55,878 So among the five of us, we got about US$1.000 each. 404 00:29:56,003 --> 00:29:57,964 That was our biggest payday. 405 00:29:58,089 --> 00:29:59,674 For us, in Montserrat, 406 00:30:00,634 --> 00:30:05,012 it was just amazing. There's not a word to describe that. 407 00:30:05,137 --> 00:30:08,808 And in someplace else, you couldn't pay for it. 408 00:30:37,045 --> 00:30:41,008 I want everybody to say this. Say it. Wait. 409 00:30:42,675 --> 00:30:43,719 Say it. 410 00:30:46,637 --> 00:30:48,015 Say it. 411 00:30:50,726 --> 00:30:52,560 Say it. 412 00:30:52,685 --> 00:30:54,479 When Stevie Wonder arrived, 413 00:30:54,605 --> 00:30:57,773 he and Paul were having such a good time in the studio, 414 00:30:57,900 --> 00:30:59,609 the sessions were overrunning 415 00:30:59,734 --> 00:31:03,404 and Paul, I think he had Air Force Two booked 416 00:31:03,529 --> 00:31:06,240 to go back from Antigua back to London. 417 00:31:06,365 --> 00:31:08,911 I can remember sitting next to the telex machine 418 00:31:09,036 --> 00:31:11,454 and this huge great telex comes rattling through saying, 419 00:31:11,579 --> 00:31:13,414 "If you don't get here in the next two hours, 420 00:31:13,539 --> 00:31:15,541 we have to change the crews out again 421 00:31:15,666 --> 00:31:18,711 and it will cost you another $10.000", or whatever it was. 422 00:31:18,836 --> 00:31:23,383 And I just kind of turned to John at the time and just said, 423 00:31:24,343 --> 00:31:27,930 "That's about what we're charging him a week, isn't it?" 424 00:31:32,601 --> 00:31:36,771 When the band finished, we took them all to the airport, 425 00:31:36,896 --> 00:31:41,777 we loaded them on their planes, waved our bye-byes, and they all left. 426 00:31:41,902 --> 00:31:45,989 We would all drive up to St George's Hill 427 00:31:46,114 --> 00:31:49,576 and we would all sit up there, maybe having a beer, 428 00:31:49,701 --> 00:31:53,788 really not saying much, just clearing our heads. 429 00:31:53,913 --> 00:31:56,208 And then, OK, back to the studio. 430 00:31:56,333 --> 00:31:59,877 And that was it. Relaxation over and we'd get back. 431 00:32:00,002 --> 00:32:03,882 But that was special, we'd just gotten through a gig, 432 00:32:04,007 --> 00:32:06,718 and everything was done, everything was fine. 433 00:32:06,844 --> 00:32:09,637 Now we were going back to get ready for the next one. 434 00:32:09,762 --> 00:32:14,768 1981, we didn't have a day off. We worked back to back. 435 00:32:19,146 --> 00:32:22,901 We were coming out of the punk scene in London, 436 00:32:23,026 --> 00:32:27,780 which went from about 1977 to about 1980. 437 00:32:27,905 --> 00:32:29,282 Then it sort of petered out. 438 00:32:29,407 --> 00:32:32,493 But it was a wonderful, colorful moment in music history. 439 00:32:32,618 --> 00:32:36,330 It was the crucible for The Police, that's where we started. 440 00:32:42,671 --> 00:32:44,923 The Police made three albums 441 00:32:45,048 --> 00:32:51,637 in dingy, sunless recording studios in England and in Holland, 442 00:32:52,263 --> 00:32:55,976 where we would work from ten in the evening till dawn. 443 00:32:56,101 --> 00:32:59,896 And we lived that kind of existence for a couple of years. 444 00:33:02,941 --> 00:33:06,068 Welcome to MTV Music Television, 445 00:33:06,194 --> 00:33:10,199 the world's first 24-hour stereo video music channel. 446 00:33:10,324 --> 00:33:14,076 I think the success of The Police really was a happy accident, 447 00:33:14,202 --> 00:33:18,624 because it was the beginning of the MTV era, 448 00:33:18,749 --> 00:33:23,211 and we had a whole slew of videos we'd already made 449 00:33:23,336 --> 00:33:28,634 and there was this channel, custom-built to receive these videos. 450 00:33:28,759 --> 00:33:35,516 And we became a staple on MTV, which, of course, added to our success. 451 00:33:36,474 --> 00:33:38,727 It's nice to be here in Athens. 452 00:33:40,729 --> 00:33:43,356 What d'you call the place? Athena or something? 453 00:33:44,148 --> 00:33:46,359 By the third album, we'd had a couple of hits 454 00:33:46,484 --> 00:33:47,903 and the record company are saying, 455 00:33:48,028 --> 00:33:51,531 "This is now going to be the big one, if you get this next album right." 456 00:33:51,656 --> 00:33:54,367 And the record company were there with us to ensure 457 00:33:54,492 --> 00:33:58,038 that we did not stray from the path of commercial success. 458 00:33:58,163 --> 00:34:03,669 So, for the next album we went 12 hours' flight away from the record company, 459 00:34:03,794 --> 00:34:07,213 down in the Caribbean, at Montserrat Studios. 460 00:34:18,224 --> 00:34:21,978 And it just looked like we would have died and gone to heaven. 461 00:34:22,103 --> 00:34:27,608 Because there was a tropical sea and beautiful skies, 462 00:34:27,733 --> 00:34:31,822 and jungle and a swimming pool right outside of the studio. 463 00:34:31,947 --> 00:34:36,076 And you could actually see the daylight through the studio. 464 00:34:36,994 --> 00:34:39,579 This was sort of the rock-star dream. 465 00:34:39,704 --> 00:34:43,500 A fantastic state-of-the-art studio in the Caribbean. 466 00:34:43,625 --> 00:34:46,003 I mean, this was it, this was like the Beatles or something. 467 00:34:46,128 --> 00:34:49,882 We sort of reached the pinnacle with going to those studios. 468 00:34:50,007 --> 00:34:51,675 George would come in occasionally, 469 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:53,092 but he wasn't our producer. 470 00:34:53,217 --> 00:34:55,344 Our producer was a man called Hugh Padgham. 471 00:34:55,469 --> 00:35:00,141 George was more of a presiding genius around. 472 00:35:00,266 --> 00:35:03,686 He was rarely in the studio with us. 473 00:35:04,563 --> 00:35:07,273 The team were wonderful. They looked after us. 474 00:35:07,398 --> 00:35:12,487 I would run up the hill every morning from the villa and jump in the pool, 475 00:35:12,612 --> 00:35:16,617 and then write lyrics or write a tune, and then make the album. 476 00:35:16,742 --> 00:35:19,702 I developed a relationship with the island 477 00:35:19,827 --> 00:35:21,496 and the people who live there. 478 00:35:21,621 --> 00:35:26,668 I learned to windsurf on Montserrat. I was taught by a guy called Danny. 479 00:35:26,793 --> 00:35:30,213 He was very patient with me because I was a very slow learner. 480 00:35:30,338 --> 00:35:33,884 He's a very brilliant man, very good friend of mine. 481 00:35:34,967 --> 00:35:36,177 Respects me much. 482 00:35:36,302 --> 00:35:42,184 He said, "Danny, you taught me something that I'd never known how to do. 483 00:35:42,309 --> 00:35:45,061 The people teach me or taught me things, 484 00:35:45,186 --> 00:35:48,273 they are my hero, and you are one of my hero." 485 00:35:48,398 --> 00:35:50,192 Right, the dance steps. 486 00:36:14,507 --> 00:36:19,262 We did some backing vocals for The Police. 487 00:36:19,679 --> 00:36:21,097 It was quite funny, actually. 488 00:36:21,222 --> 00:36:24,934 Twice, I went into the studio to do backing vocals. 489 00:36:25,059 --> 00:36:26,103 They're the same. 490 00:36:26,228 --> 00:36:28,396 Everybody come and sing. -Everybody come and sing. 491 00:36:28,521 --> 00:36:31,983 They wanted, like, a choir. -Sound like a choir. 492 00:36:34,652 --> 00:36:36,572 Hang on, stop. 493 00:36:36,697 --> 00:36:38,282 OK, I understand. 494 00:36:38,407 --> 00:36:41,201 By this time in our career, our main songwriter had a technique, 495 00:36:41,326 --> 00:36:44,413 which is to not reveal his songs until we needed them. 496 00:36:44,538 --> 00:36:49,793 And this song came in and we heard the demo, 497 00:36:49,918 --> 00:36:51,628 and we all could hear right away 498 00:36:51,753 --> 00:36:55,298 that the demo Sting made by himself, it's already a hit. 499 00:36:55,423 --> 00:36:57,134 Just put that sucker out right away. 500 00:36:57,259 --> 00:37:00,596 But that didn't suit our self-image as a band. 501 00:37:07,603 --> 00:37:11,106 And we tried every way. The punk version, the reggae version. 502 00:37:11,231 --> 00:37:15,152 And so, eventually, one morning I arrived in the studio, "Fuck it! 503 00:37:15,277 --> 00:37:18,780 Just fucking play your fucked-up demo, 504 00:37:18,905 --> 00:37:21,867 just fucking... just tell me where the fucking changes are!" 505 00:37:21,992 --> 00:37:25,036 I knew where the changes were, because we'd tried it every which way. 506 00:37:25,161 --> 00:37:27,664 It's a complicated song with a lot of different parts. 507 00:37:27,789 --> 00:37:30,541 And so, "OK, roll tape and I'll play with the demo." 508 00:37:30,666 --> 00:37:33,545 And we did, and the record that is the record 509 00:37:33,670 --> 00:37:38,342 is that morning recording of that song in one take. 510 00:38:02,615 --> 00:38:05,369 Then we recorded in the studio. 511 00:38:05,494 --> 00:38:10,331 I think Andy was dancing on George's prized mixing desk, 512 00:38:10,456 --> 00:38:12,251 which didn't go down well with Mr. Martin. 513 00:38:12,376 --> 00:38:14,753 But he didn't harm it. He was very light. 514 00:38:14,878 --> 00:38:16,505 We just had fun, it was a fun video. 515 00:38:29,684 --> 00:38:32,521 Being on an island like that, you can be in the bungalow 516 00:38:32,646 --> 00:38:35,190 in a dry, dusty patch of sand down near the beach, 517 00:38:35,315 --> 00:38:37,860 and you'll be on your own, there is no one else. 518 00:38:37,985 --> 00:38:41,697 So it was kind of isolating, and it brought out some really good things. 519 00:38:41,822 --> 00:38:44,490 Ghost in the Machine was another major hit album, 520 00:38:44,615 --> 00:38:49,246 but my wife called me and said, "I want to get divorced", that's it. 521 00:38:49,371 --> 00:38:55,210 In fact, I think was all three of us probably got divorced 522 00:38:55,335 --> 00:38:58,713 or started divorce proceedings during Ghost in the Machine. 523 00:39:02,342 --> 00:39:07,931 It was a period of stratospheric success. 524 00:39:08,599 --> 00:39:13,394 The part of that, the speed and the size of that success, 525 00:39:13,519 --> 00:39:16,398 also distorts your perception of it. 526 00:39:16,898 --> 00:39:20,735 And we were so filled with this forward momentum, 527 00:39:20,860 --> 00:39:23,989 we didn't really get a chance to appreciate it, 528 00:39:24,114 --> 00:39:28,284 except for Montserrat, which allowed us to calm down. 529 00:39:46,929 --> 00:39:50,224 Music is the liquid architecture of our emotions, 530 00:39:50,349 --> 00:39:51,766 and George was a wonderful architect. 531 00:39:51,891 --> 00:39:55,646 He had a way of putting things in place, in the right place. 532 00:39:55,771 --> 00:40:00,983 In a place that was comfortable and a place that grew, it was fruitful. 533 00:40:21,463 --> 00:40:25,467 The first main wave of success for Elton and the band 534 00:40:25,592 --> 00:40:32,592 was really from, like, 1971, '72 till '76. 535 00:40:32,724 --> 00:40:35,268 Just a four-piece with Elton, me, Dee and Nigel. 536 00:40:35,393 --> 00:40:38,105 We'd made all those classic records in the '70s, 537 00:40:38,230 --> 00:40:40,940 and then there was a gap where we weren't all together. 538 00:40:41,065 --> 00:40:42,985 We all did different things. Elton retired. 539 00:40:43,110 --> 00:40:48,782 And he called me in '81 and said, "I'm gonna put the band back together." 540 00:40:50,242 --> 00:40:51,242 I don't know. 541 00:40:51,367 --> 00:40:55,621 I was recording with Elton, in Paris, 542 00:40:55,746 --> 00:40:58,208 and we weren't getting much done. 543 00:40:58,876 --> 00:41:04,505 Um... that's the diplomatic answer. 544 00:41:04,630 --> 00:41:07,967 I spoke to Elton's manager. 545 00:41:08,092 --> 00:41:11,554 He went to see Elton, and all of a sudden... 546 00:41:11,679 --> 00:41:15,559 This was, I think, on a Tuesday and we were flying back to London. 547 00:41:15,684 --> 00:41:19,353 And I was told that we were actually going to Montserrat on Friday. 548 00:41:22,608 --> 00:41:26,235 We arrived there, and it was just such a shock to suddenly be there. 549 00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:30,157 It was like, "Oi! What are we doing here?" 550 00:41:30,282 --> 00:41:33,534 We had a couple of days to get over the jetlag, and then we were off. 551 00:41:33,659 --> 00:41:35,661 Montserrat was a whole different deal. 552 00:41:35,786 --> 00:41:39,081 The room was fantastic. It just had a great atmosphere. 553 00:41:39,208 --> 00:41:42,960 It had George all over it, the studio. It was just so cool. 554 00:41:43,085 --> 00:41:46,547 I hadn't got any material before I arrived in Montserrat, 555 00:41:46,672 --> 00:41:49,175 and I wrote 12 songs there. 556 00:41:49,300 --> 00:41:51,677 It's always the danger that you might not be able to write. 557 00:41:51,802 --> 00:41:53,137 So I quite like that. 558 00:41:53,262 --> 00:41:55,431 For the first half an hour when I was trying to write, 559 00:41:55,556 --> 00:41:57,309 I couldn't write anything and I was panicking. 560 00:41:57,434 --> 00:42:01,230 But the way we write, it's very strange. With Bernie and I, it's something... 561 00:42:01,355 --> 00:42:03,815 It just works, there's a magic there. 562 00:42:03,940 --> 00:42:06,193 Until Too Low for Zero, with Elton and Bernie, 563 00:42:07,193 --> 00:42:08,570 it had been all over the place. 564 00:42:08,695 --> 00:42:11,864 They hadn't been together much, hadn't been writing together. 565 00:42:11,989 --> 00:42:15,034 And this was the first album back. It was all Bernie. 566 00:42:16,077 --> 00:42:18,121 And all the original band. 567 00:42:18,246 --> 00:42:21,541 So it was quite a remarkable event. 568 00:42:21,666 --> 00:42:23,710 We were all on the same wavelength. 569 00:42:23,835 --> 00:42:27,172 We didn't have to tell each other how it should be. 570 00:42:27,297 --> 00:42:32,385 And the beauty also was that we heard the songs being written. 571 00:42:32,510 --> 00:42:34,512 So we were in there from the start. 572 00:42:45,398 --> 00:42:46,942 I remember the day 573 00:42:47,067 --> 00:42:49,652 that we wrote I Guess That's Why They Call It the Blues, 574 00:42:49,777 --> 00:42:53,447 because to me, it's one of the greatest love songs of all time. 575 00:42:53,574 --> 00:42:57,119 And we wrote it in 20 minutes. Again, it wasn't like a big thing. 576 00:42:57,244 --> 00:43:00,289 It was like, "OK, this, this, this. Yeah, that sounds great." 577 00:43:00,414 --> 00:43:02,248 And, "Let's get the guys in, let's record it." 578 00:43:30,235 --> 00:43:32,778 There was something about being on the same site. 579 00:43:32,905 --> 00:43:38,327 It has this strange effect of bringing everybody together. 580 00:43:43,664 --> 00:43:46,918 One day, Elton said, "Where'd did you go last night?" 581 00:43:47,043 --> 00:43:50,088 I said, "We went to this new place. We found this new place." 582 00:43:50,213 --> 00:43:52,840 He said, "Where is it?" I said, "I'll show you." 583 00:43:52,965 --> 00:43:55,677 So, we were driving along 584 00:43:55,802 --> 00:43:59,347 and we go past this totally rundown place 585 00:43:59,472 --> 00:44:02,016 with a bit of corrugated iron over the top. 586 00:44:02,141 --> 00:44:04,519 And Elton goes, "I love places like that. 587 00:44:04,644 --> 00:44:06,396 Nobody ever invites me to places like that." 588 00:44:06,521 --> 00:44:08,315 I'm going, "Yeah, sure!" 589 00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:10,817 It's, you know, the bloke who lives in the Ritz all the time. 590 00:44:10,943 --> 00:44:12,693 So, we went there. 591 00:44:12,818 --> 00:44:17,032 All right now, this is where we do portionable dining. 592 00:44:17,157 --> 00:44:20,244 The Village Place was just like ordinary place, 593 00:44:20,369 --> 00:44:22,371 like in the ghetto, 594 00:44:22,496 --> 00:44:26,541 where everybody hangs around and they serve chicken wings 595 00:44:26,666 --> 00:44:29,836 and you go into the bar and have some bush rum. 596 00:44:30,253 --> 00:44:32,713 But I liked Elton John very much, 597 00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:35,925 because he makes the whole place lively, very lively. 598 00:44:36,050 --> 00:44:39,554 Yeah, whenever he come here, man, he just come out, 599 00:44:39,679 --> 00:44:41,514 and start dancing. -He's a good guy. 600 00:44:41,639 --> 00:44:44,141 Just dancing in the yard. 601 00:44:44,268 --> 00:44:45,853 He was a good guy. 602 00:44:45,978 --> 00:44:49,106 He would take off his shades and give it to whoever wanted it. 603 00:44:49,231 --> 00:44:54,110 Whenever he goes to the Village Place, the bar is open until he leave. 604 00:44:54,235 --> 00:44:57,530 Open bar. Anybody who come here, you get free drinks. 605 00:44:57,655 --> 00:45:02,034 He runs an open tab. That's him. He's very generous. 606 00:45:02,577 --> 00:45:05,706 Guys that are down, he brings them up, you know? 607 00:45:07,248 --> 00:45:08,750 After dinner, 608 00:45:10,251 --> 00:45:14,590 we would all congregate back into the control room with pina coladas 609 00:45:14,715 --> 00:45:16,757 and sit back and listen to the album. 610 00:45:16,884 --> 00:45:23,014 And then, Elton would play it again. And then, a third time. 611 00:45:23,139 --> 00:45:25,516 About a week into the album, 612 00:45:25,641 --> 00:45:30,981 everybody went to bed after playing the album through only once, 613 00:45:31,106 --> 00:45:32,315 which upset Elton. 614 00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:34,902 He started ranting about something about throwing... 615 00:45:35,027 --> 00:45:37,612 "It was a shit album. I'm gonna throw the tapes in the pool." 616 00:45:37,737 --> 00:45:41,449 And Mike, very, very swiftly, brilliant idea, 617 00:45:41,574 --> 00:45:45,494 gave him about six blank two-inch tapes. 618 00:45:46,079 --> 00:45:48,414 Elton went out and threw the whole lot in the swimming pool. 619 00:45:48,539 --> 00:45:49,666 That could've been the album. 620 00:45:58,884 --> 00:46:01,052 When we were working on Too Low for Zero, 621 00:46:01,177 --> 00:46:03,554 Dee had been suffering from cancer. 622 00:46:04,056 --> 00:46:07,476 So he wasn't in the studio all the time. 623 00:46:07,601 --> 00:46:10,853 Then we got a phone call one morning saying, 624 00:46:10,978 --> 00:46:13,815 "Nigel can't come in. He's not very well." 625 00:46:13,940 --> 00:46:17,068 So Elton went, "What the fuck?" 626 00:46:17,193 --> 00:46:20,864 He said, "They're all dropping like flies!" 627 00:46:20,989 --> 00:46:25,744 And over there in the distance, there's a kind of shelf by the window 628 00:46:25,869 --> 00:46:27,663 separating the control room and the studio, 629 00:46:27,788 --> 00:46:30,541 and there's this huge cloud of marijuana smoke. 630 00:46:30,666 --> 00:46:33,168 And lying there, absolutely prone, 631 00:46:33,293 --> 00:46:38,047 was Adrian who was in charge of all the logistics for the recordings. 632 00:46:38,172 --> 00:46:41,677 Out of this smoke this voice said, "Well, I'm still standing." 633 00:46:41,802 --> 00:46:46,014 Elton and I just looked at each other, we just collapsed with laughter. 634 00:46:46,139 --> 00:46:48,724 Then, the next minute, Elton picked himself up, 635 00:46:48,851 --> 00:46:51,478 phoned up Bernie and said, "I want you to write this song." 636 00:47:15,126 --> 00:47:17,253 George Martin came down 637 00:47:17,378 --> 00:47:19,547 when we were there doing T oo Low for Zero. 638 00:47:19,672 --> 00:47:23,177 And later on, Chris told me that George had said to him 639 00:47:24,344 --> 00:47:26,762 that he couldn't believe the chemistry 640 00:47:26,889 --> 00:47:31,143 that was happening between the four of us in the studio. And... 641 00:47:32,143 --> 00:47:37,356 The only thing that he could liken it to was when he worked with the Beatles. 642 00:47:37,481 --> 00:47:40,527 When we heard that, it was like, "Shit, OK, I like that." 643 00:47:40,652 --> 00:47:43,572 I've got the same people around me now as I did 15 years ago. 644 00:47:43,697 --> 00:47:45,364 We've been through ups and downs. 645 00:47:45,489 --> 00:47:48,619 And the pleasure of it all is being able to share it with these people, 646 00:47:48,744 --> 00:47:50,954 and after all that time, still be with them, 647 00:47:51,079 --> 00:47:53,248 and I think we're playing better. 648 00:47:54,248 --> 00:47:55,541 And it feels fantastic 649 00:47:55,666 --> 00:47:58,545 to be able to get a second chance at having that enthusiasm. 650 00:47:58,670 --> 00:48:01,840 And so, that more than anything else, it means a lot to me. 651 00:48:15,646 --> 00:48:19,525 We did all have good, fun times. He did three albums with us. 652 00:48:19,650 --> 00:48:23,152 One time, he said that he was leaving at 21st December. 653 00:48:23,277 --> 00:48:27,324 We were all getting excited because Montserrat's carnival is at Christmas. 654 00:48:27,449 --> 00:48:32,204 So, we're all thinking, "Soon as the band have gone, we'll all be partying." 655 00:48:32,329 --> 00:48:35,581 And he's like, "I think I'll stay." So he stayed. 656 00:48:36,500 --> 00:48:37,583 We had a fantastic time. 657 00:48:37,708 --> 00:48:40,711 It was like a big family, sitting at the table, enjoying Christmas. 658 00:48:40,838 --> 00:48:46,134 So, maybe with Elton, the excesses were very, very big, 659 00:48:46,260 --> 00:48:47,385 but it didn't make him happy. 660 00:48:47,510 --> 00:48:50,639 It might not have been anything to do with Montserrat, 661 00:48:50,764 --> 00:48:54,934 but he did have an experience that quite changed him, obviously. 662 00:49:04,443 --> 00:49:07,405 It was a place that was put there 663 00:49:07,530 --> 00:49:12,369 for people to understand themselves, to inspire the world. 664 00:49:12,494 --> 00:49:16,914 Because there was a lot of stuff came out of Montserrat that is forever. 665 00:49:17,039 --> 00:49:19,668 One, two. -One, two. 666 00:49:20,626 --> 00:49:25,007 In London, I was often overdubbing in the studios 667 00:49:25,132 --> 00:49:26,925 on work that had come from Montserrat. 668 00:49:27,050 --> 00:49:29,302 I would say sometimes, "This is from Montserrat." 669 00:49:29,427 --> 00:49:30,846 They'd say, "How did you know?" 670 00:49:30,971 --> 00:49:32,972 I'd say, "I can hear it, believe it or not." 671 00:49:33,097 --> 00:49:36,143 There's something in the air that's surrounding these notes. 672 00:49:36,268 --> 00:49:39,813 There's a sympathy between the notes, an understanding. 673 00:49:39,938 --> 00:49:41,773 That can only come when you're working with George 674 00:49:41,898 --> 00:49:43,775 or in one of his environments. 675 00:50:00,291 --> 00:50:02,418 The '80s was probably 676 00:50:02,543 --> 00:50:07,215 one of the most inventive decades for pop music. 677 00:50:07,757 --> 00:50:12,429 You'd had the punk movement in '76, '77, then you had new wave, 678 00:50:12,554 --> 00:50:15,389 bridged the gap from the '70s into the '80s. 679 00:50:15,516 --> 00:50:18,351 And then you had this thing called the New Romantics, 680 00:50:18,476 --> 00:50:22,021 which was Duran Duran, Spandau Ballet, Culture Club. 681 00:50:22,146 --> 00:50:24,190 And Duran were the biggest of the bunch. 682 00:50:34,034 --> 00:50:36,577 We'd just finished the Rio album, 683 00:50:36,702 --> 00:50:38,079 and we were chasing The Police, 684 00:50:38,746 --> 00:50:40,958 because they were a little bit older than us. 685 00:50:41,083 --> 00:50:44,378 They were ahead of us in America, and it was time to make another album. 686 00:50:44,503 --> 00:50:47,047 And then we thought, "We can't go back to England." 687 00:50:47,172 --> 00:50:51,175 Because it was just a little too crazy with all the hysteria at that point. 688 00:50:51,300 --> 00:50:53,512 We couldn't really move in the street. 689 00:50:53,637 --> 00:50:55,847 So we wanted to get as far away as we could. 690 00:50:55,972 --> 00:51:00,726 AIR Studios Montserrat looked very appealing from the brochures. 691 00:51:00,853 --> 00:51:04,856 And, of course, having George Martin involved, 692 00:51:04,981 --> 00:51:08,235 we figured that everything's gonna be perfect there. 693 00:51:14,032 --> 00:51:18,494 When we arrived, it was like being in a surrealist painting. 694 00:51:19,371 --> 00:51:23,333 You go, and there's black sand everywhere, and the volcano, 695 00:51:23,458 --> 00:51:26,711 and these giant iguanas. 696 00:51:26,836 --> 00:51:29,505 One thing that was a bit of a shock 697 00:51:29,630 --> 00:51:34,094 was that we were used to living our lives 698 00:51:34,219 --> 00:51:37,306 completely under media scrutiny. 699 00:51:37,431 --> 00:51:40,099 And it was days when you'd wake up 700 00:51:40,224 --> 00:51:44,061 and there'd be someone hiding in your hedge in your front garden. 701 00:51:44,188 --> 00:51:48,567 You'd have to draw the curtains quickly when you're having breakfast. 702 00:51:49,735 --> 00:51:54,072 So, suddenly there, there was no one. 703 00:51:54,197 --> 00:51:59,244 It was like suddenly going under water and there was silence. 704 00:52:13,300 --> 00:52:16,010 In Montserrat, we had fun. 705 00:52:16,135 --> 00:52:18,889 We're not that straight-laced. We're making rock 'n' roll. 706 00:52:19,014 --> 00:52:21,057 When we first arrived, 707 00:52:21,182 --> 00:52:25,728 and when we made it known to the staff at the studio 708 00:52:25,853 --> 00:52:27,523 that we wanted some grass, 709 00:52:27,648 --> 00:52:31,777 within, I don't know, 15 minutes, some kid arrived with a plant 710 00:52:31,902 --> 00:52:34,820 that he just uprooted and stuck in a carrier bag. 711 00:52:35,530 --> 00:52:41,202 For Simon, he loves sunshine and he loves being outdoors 712 00:52:41,327 --> 00:52:43,288 and he loves boats and water. 713 00:52:43,413 --> 00:52:48,043 So it was a dream to be able to be at a studio in the Caribbean, 714 00:52:48,168 --> 00:52:53,297 do a few hours' work, then go off and have fun in the sea. 715 00:52:53,422 --> 00:52:58,135 For me, really hot climates and isolation, 716 00:52:58,262 --> 00:53:03,349 personally are not so great for creativity 717 00:53:03,474 --> 00:53:07,103 when you wanna do something with a little experimentation. 718 00:53:07,228 --> 00:53:12,150 And so I really had a bit of personality clash with it creatively. 719 00:53:12,275 --> 00:53:16,905 And I ended up working into the night mostly in the studio, 720 00:53:17,030 --> 00:53:20,576 because there was no disruptions, people weren't running out of the door 721 00:53:20,701 --> 00:53:22,744 to jump in the swimming pool every five minutes. 722 00:53:22,869 --> 00:53:25,121 And I could actually focus on things. 723 00:53:25,246 --> 00:53:28,000 But, having said that, when we were there, 724 00:53:28,125 --> 00:53:31,545 we got the basis for the Seven and the Ragged Tiger album, 725 00:53:31,670 --> 00:53:34,672 The Reflex and The Union of the Snake. 726 00:53:53,692 --> 00:53:57,945 Being in Montserrat, you certainly felt isolated from the real world. 727 00:53:58,070 --> 00:54:03,202 It did end up feeling like we were disconnected from the fans 728 00:54:03,327 --> 00:54:05,579 because we were just living in paradise, 729 00:54:05,704 --> 00:54:09,333 and that's why we decided we need to finish the album in a city. 730 00:54:09,916 --> 00:54:14,170 We went to Montserrat with all good intentions, 731 00:54:14,295 --> 00:54:17,132 and to George Martin's great credit, 732 00:54:17,257 --> 00:54:21,010 he pulled off something that was pretty extraordinary. 733 00:54:21,135 --> 00:54:27,976 But I'm not sure that we were in the right headspace 734 00:54:28,726 --> 00:54:31,396 to make the kind of record there 735 00:54:31,521 --> 00:54:35,567 that might have been a little more chilled. 736 00:54:35,692 --> 00:54:38,445 We wanted to make something full of energy. 737 00:54:38,570 --> 00:54:40,447 Duran Duran came, and they were young. 738 00:54:40,572 --> 00:54:44,326 As they were there, I think two of them celebrated their 21st birthday. 739 00:54:44,451 --> 00:54:46,619 And they were at the height of their fame. 740 00:54:46,744 --> 00:54:52,000 So, of course, they were probably wanting to be in the jet-set place. 741 00:54:52,125 --> 00:54:53,835 So, it wasn't exactly right for them. 742 00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:57,922 We had some other bands like Ultravox. They were young at the time. 743 00:54:58,047 --> 00:55:00,300 Orchestral Manoeuvres in the Dark, they came. 744 00:55:00,425 --> 00:55:02,052 But it was right for them 745 00:55:02,177 --> 00:55:04,679 because they were ready to enjoy what Montserrat offered. 746 00:55:23,949 --> 00:55:25,784 We went to Montserrat once and recorded. 747 00:55:25,909 --> 00:55:27,327 That wasn't a good experience for me. 748 00:55:27,452 --> 00:55:31,331 Palm trees and the ocean and the sand's too relaxing. 749 00:55:31,456 --> 00:55:32,666 I need to hear traffic. 750 00:55:39,422 --> 00:55:44,052 They sold Valium over the counter, which was fucking insane 751 00:55:44,177 --> 00:55:46,597 because you'd walk into the store and go, 752 00:55:46,722 --> 00:55:49,724 "I'll have a bottle of shampoo, packet of razorblades, 753 00:55:49,849 --> 00:55:51,851 50 Valium and a Mars bar." 754 00:55:56,273 --> 00:56:00,193 We got on this little plane, propeller plane. 755 00:56:00,318 --> 00:56:03,822 And the pilot's got a joint in his hand. 756 00:56:03,947 --> 00:56:06,782 I'm going, "This doesn't look too safe." 757 00:56:12,164 --> 00:56:15,333 I've seen bands that came down and... 758 00:56:16,585 --> 00:56:20,713 changed, like, their work pattern. 759 00:56:20,838 --> 00:56:24,675 They say it themselves. "Wow! We did such and such in two days. 760 00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:27,721 It's unbelievable. We've never done that before. That was a six-week job." 761 00:56:32,266 --> 00:56:35,646 The place was like that. It made you intense. 762 00:56:35,771 --> 00:56:39,650 It sort of intensified everything that you were. 763 00:56:39,775 --> 00:56:44,612 But it also got a reputation for a place where you could get things done. 764 00:56:44,737 --> 00:56:48,157 One of the things that happened with a lot a very famous people 765 00:56:48,282 --> 00:56:51,744 was they lost sight of how they became famous. 766 00:56:51,869 --> 00:56:53,789 Coming to an island like this, 767 00:56:53,914 --> 00:56:57,041 you were shoved straight back into each other's faces 768 00:56:57,166 --> 00:56:58,710 and you had to go and make another album. 769 00:56:58,835 --> 00:57:00,920 But at the moment, I want to have a fight. 770 00:57:01,045 --> 00:57:03,297 Much better television than your questions, 771 00:57:03,422 --> 00:57:04,632 I promise you. -OK. 772 00:57:04,757 --> 00:57:08,887 Shall we film me whopping Sting? -Yes. That would be great. 773 00:57:09,012 --> 00:57:11,056 The Police, album one, album two, 774 00:57:11,181 --> 00:57:13,559 it was us against the world. 775 00:57:13,684 --> 00:57:16,769 By the time we got up to Synchronicity, we were world-famous, 776 00:57:16,894 --> 00:57:19,981 everything had changed, and it was, "Why should we be a band anymore?" 777 00:57:21,775 --> 00:57:23,360 Shall we tune the guitar for you, man? 778 00:57:23,485 --> 00:57:25,152 So when we got back to Montserrat, 779 00:57:25,278 --> 00:57:27,989 we were so isolated from each other, 780 00:57:28,114 --> 00:57:30,867 that it got really difficult to... 781 00:57:30,992 --> 00:57:33,704 you know, imagine being in the studio and making a record. 782 00:57:33,829 --> 00:57:35,204 It was sort of icy. 783 00:57:35,329 --> 00:57:37,456 We went there for the isolation, 784 00:57:37,583 --> 00:57:40,293 but we soon found that without anything else around us, 785 00:57:40,418 --> 00:57:43,045 we had only each other to drive each other bananas. 786 00:57:43,172 --> 00:57:47,175 And we all saw the irony of it, 787 00:57:47,300 --> 00:57:49,677 although we were screaming and shouting at each other, 788 00:57:49,802 --> 00:57:55,184 that here we were in this paradise, which we soon turned into a living hell. 789 00:57:55,309 --> 00:57:56,976 Yeah! 790 00:58:01,231 --> 00:58:04,025 I was the only one, personally, the guitar player 791 00:58:04,150 --> 00:58:06,777 in the studio itself, this recording room. 792 00:58:06,903 --> 00:58:10,782 Then there was the control room, where the Neve desk was. 793 00:58:10,907 --> 00:58:15,996 Sting was in there playing his bass, and Stewart was up in the dining room. 794 00:58:16,121 --> 00:58:18,289 We were playing together, but weren't seeing each other. 795 00:58:18,414 --> 00:58:20,958 We were all completely isolated and playing through headphones, 796 00:58:21,083 --> 00:58:22,210 which was sort of bizarre. 797 00:58:22,335 --> 00:58:24,505 What they all wanted in those days, 798 00:58:24,630 --> 00:58:27,340 this is a different period of recording techniques, 799 00:58:27,465 --> 00:58:29,467 was perfect separation. 800 00:58:29,592 --> 00:58:30,844 And that's what we had, 801 00:58:30,969 --> 00:58:33,972 and that's what we were gonna be as people too, perfect separation. 802 00:58:34,097 --> 00:58:37,016 I did not like recording in the dining room, 803 00:58:37,141 --> 00:58:40,228 because it was lonely and grumpy. 804 00:58:40,353 --> 00:58:44,565 And it wasn't the feeling of what I liked about the band, 805 00:58:44,690 --> 00:58:47,193 which was the interaction. 806 00:58:47,318 --> 00:58:50,364 That's what we did live and what's so exciting. 807 00:58:50,489 --> 00:58:54,367 But it was quite miserable. I couldn't wait to get off that island 808 00:58:54,492 --> 00:58:56,661 and put it behind me, and have it done. 809 00:58:57,454 --> 00:59:01,791 Well, the conflict in the band is kind of storied 810 00:59:01,916 --> 00:59:04,001 and it may well be exaggerated. 811 00:59:04,878 --> 00:59:10,007 But for me, it was a function of the creative process. 812 00:59:10,132 --> 00:59:14,471 You have three alpha males trying to forge something 813 00:59:14,596 --> 00:59:17,306 that points in one direction and not three. 814 00:59:18,809 --> 00:59:21,269 We weren't physically aggressive with each other, 815 00:59:21,394 --> 00:59:23,230 but it got pretty heated in there 816 00:59:23,355 --> 00:59:28,150 but really because we cared passionately about what each of us were doing. 817 00:59:28,902 --> 00:59:33,322 And, um... But it was not easy. 818 00:59:33,447 --> 00:59:37,159 It was great to have an environment around us where you could escape to. 819 00:59:37,286 --> 00:59:40,289 I could go walking in the hills. 820 00:59:40,414 --> 00:59:42,748 In fact, I went up to the volcano a couple of times. 821 00:59:42,875 --> 00:59:47,003 You'd come back smelling of sulfur. People would think you'd been to hell. 822 00:59:47,128 --> 00:59:48,463 So, back to the top? 823 00:59:50,382 --> 00:59:55,387 It's OK. All right, yeah, it sounds OK. It's C, F and A now, yeah. 824 00:59:55,512 --> 00:59:57,264 We got to a point fairly early on 825 00:59:57,389 --> 00:59:59,224 where we almost couldn't speak to each other. 826 00:59:59,349 --> 01:00:03,436 It was tense, the atmosphere was tense, like we shouldn't be doing this anymore. 827 01:00:03,561 --> 01:00:05,188 We need a producer. 828 01:00:05,313 --> 01:00:08,150 I said, "What about George Martin? He produced the Beatles. Surely?" 829 01:00:08,275 --> 01:00:11,987 And we were up there, so he'll probably take the job. 830 01:00:12,112 --> 01:00:14,989 Sting and Stewart said, "Well, you go and get him then." 831 01:00:15,114 --> 01:00:16,490 So I said, "Right, I will." 832 01:00:16,617 --> 01:00:19,952 We sat down and he said, "Would you like a cup of tea?" 833 01:00:20,077 --> 01:00:22,371 I said I'd have a cup of tea. So we're having a cup of tea. 834 01:00:22,496 --> 01:00:24,791 I start to tell him about the problems with the band. 835 01:00:24,916 --> 01:00:28,420 And I said, "We'd like you to come over and produce us." 836 01:00:28,545 --> 01:00:30,422 He said, "Um... not sure." 837 01:00:30,547 --> 01:00:32,757 Maybe he wasn't in the producing mood at that point. 838 01:00:32,882 --> 01:00:35,760 He said, "I think you can sort it out. You're grown-ups." 839 01:00:35,885 --> 01:00:39,222 Come on, I think you can do it. There's a lot at stake here." 840 01:00:39,347 --> 01:00:43,018 So, we had a very nice time having tea and chatting. 841 01:00:43,143 --> 01:00:46,355 I walked all the way back across the valley in the beating heat, 842 01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:49,023 and we were all incredibly polite to one another 843 01:00:49,148 --> 01:00:51,400 and very nice for the rest of the album. 844 01:00:51,527 --> 01:00:52,568 That cured it. 845 01:01:21,556 --> 01:01:23,391 Every Breath You Take was very different 846 01:01:23,516 --> 01:01:25,184 from most of our other recordings, 847 01:01:25,309 --> 01:01:27,728 because it was pieced together bit by bit. 848 01:01:27,855 --> 01:01:32,525 It was another song that we knew was a huge hit. 849 01:01:32,650 --> 01:01:38,072 Do not mess with it, do not get in the way of a big hit. 850 01:01:38,197 --> 01:01:43,202 So every element was recorded completely separately. 851 01:01:43,327 --> 01:01:46,123 And the result is actually kinda cool. 852 01:01:46,248 --> 01:01:49,960 It's very composed, all the parts are very composed. 853 01:01:50,418 --> 01:01:54,922 And at the same time, emotionally very powerful. 854 01:02:25,077 --> 01:02:28,373 You know, maybe the best music comes out of this sort of tension. 855 01:02:28,498 --> 01:02:29,583 I've always believed that. 856 01:02:29,708 --> 01:02:34,213 I think that The Police had three distinct personalities 857 01:02:34,338 --> 01:02:37,757 which were not the ideal bedmates, because we weren't mellow guys. 858 01:02:37,882 --> 01:02:43,722 But I think that firecracker complex is what sort of fuels the music. 859 01:02:43,847 --> 01:02:47,059 In hindsight, it was worth it, and we could all see... 860 01:02:47,184 --> 01:02:52,105 When we had calmed down, left the island and we went back to the real world, 861 01:02:52,231 --> 01:02:53,606 all those battles that we'd fought 862 01:02:53,731 --> 01:02:57,152 and arguments about what we were gonna do and how we were gonna do it, 863 01:02:57,277 --> 01:03:00,364 they were worth it, because it really did light the thing up. 864 01:03:00,489 --> 01:03:03,951 And we all can say that if I'd had my way every day, 865 01:03:04,076 --> 01:03:06,619 it wouldn't have been a great album that it was. 866 01:03:06,744 --> 01:03:09,789 If we had let Sting get away with every commandment, 867 01:03:09,914 --> 01:03:14,168 and if Andy had put in every guitar solo, uh... 868 01:03:14,293 --> 01:03:15,963 it wouldn't have been the same thing. 869 01:03:16,088 --> 01:03:20,967 We kind of needed each other to restrain and incite each other. 870 01:03:35,565 --> 01:03:38,485 Synchronicity was our biggest success. 871 01:03:38,610 --> 01:03:40,487 It had songs like Every Breath You Take, 872 01:03:40,612 --> 01:03:44,615 and King of Pain and Wrapped Around Your Finger. 873 01:03:44,740 --> 01:03:49,829 But I did decide during that recording that I didn't want to do this again. 874 01:03:49,954 --> 01:03:54,083 That we had achieved everything we set out to do as a band, 875 01:03:54,208 --> 01:03:58,797 and achieved it tenfold, a hundredfold more than our expectations, 876 01:03:58,922 --> 01:04:03,260 and so, after that, I figured it would just be diminishing returns. 877 01:04:03,385 --> 01:04:08,347 So I wanted to use the momentum we'd gained to set out on my own. 878 01:04:08,472 --> 01:04:13,436 After we finished the Police album, Sting stays there for a bit of a holiday 879 01:04:13,561 --> 01:04:18,400 and the next band in is Dire Straits, and the rest is history. 880 01:04:26,742 --> 01:04:28,827 I want my MTV! 881 01:04:28,952 --> 01:04:34,333 I've seen on MTV The Police doing an ad for it. 882 01:04:34,458 --> 01:04:39,630 And I thought, "If I stick that to Don't Stand So Close to Me, 883 01:04:40,838 --> 01:04:43,050 those notes, that would fit." 884 01:04:43,967 --> 01:04:48,514 Anyway, we were recording Money for Nothing, 885 01:04:48,639 --> 01:04:51,934 and I said to somebody, "I wish Sting was here." 886 01:04:52,059 --> 01:04:55,103 And somebody said, "Well, he is here, he's on holiday." 887 01:05:07,865 --> 01:05:08,909 Ow! 888 01:05:30,806 --> 01:05:33,016 Trudie said to me, "That's gonna be such a huge hit." 889 01:05:33,141 --> 01:05:36,644 I said, "I dunno, it's OK." 890 01:05:36,769 --> 01:05:40,565 Of course, it was the biggest hit of that year, so I was very... 891 01:05:40,690 --> 01:05:43,110 very proud to have been on that, but it's purely a function 892 01:05:43,235 --> 01:05:45,987 of just being in the right place at the right time. 893 01:05:57,416 --> 01:06:00,543 There'd been something going on with the other albums. 894 01:06:00,668 --> 01:06:05,715 There'd been a sort of a build-up, because we were playing live 895 01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:09,177 and there was a big demand to see the band live. 896 01:06:09,302 --> 01:06:13,347 Because the feeling was that not only could we do it all live, 897 01:06:13,472 --> 01:06:16,351 but it was better than playing the records. 898 01:06:16,476 --> 01:06:19,271 That was reaching a sort of critical mass. 899 01:06:26,235 --> 01:06:28,405 Mark wanted to try something different 900 01:06:28,530 --> 01:06:30,824 in the approach to recording Brothers in Arms. 901 01:06:30,949 --> 01:06:34,119 After we did Love Over Gold, we were both displeased 902 01:06:34,244 --> 01:06:37,289 with how analogue tape would change the sound of our recordings 903 01:06:37,414 --> 01:06:38,539 while we were doing it. 904 01:06:38,623 --> 01:06:41,168 Dire Straits' manager was conscious of that 905 01:06:41,293 --> 01:06:45,005 and encouraged Mark to record the album digitally and mix it digitally. 906 01:06:45,130 --> 01:06:49,717 So, it was an all-digital recording ultimately winding up on CD. 907 01:06:49,842 --> 01:06:52,179 And it was one of the first records to be done that way, 908 01:06:52,304 --> 01:06:56,182 and I think he wanted the time and the peace and quiet of Montserrat 909 01:06:56,307 --> 01:06:57,684 to do it there. 910 01:07:15,952 --> 01:07:19,956 If you come into a studio from Oxford Circus, 911 01:07:20,081 --> 01:07:21,708 you'll be slightly hyper. 912 01:07:21,833 --> 01:07:24,210 You've come out of the Tube, or wherever you've come from, 913 01:07:24,335 --> 01:07:28,005 and you're in a different mental place. 914 01:07:28,130 --> 01:07:32,802 When you come from the track up to the studio in Montserrat, 915 01:07:32,927 --> 01:07:34,679 you go in the kitchen, you see George 916 01:07:34,804 --> 01:07:36,889 and you get a cup of coffee and you're wandering around. 917 01:07:37,014 --> 01:07:40,059 And it's just more of a home studio vibe. 918 01:07:40,184 --> 01:07:44,231 But there's no getting away from the fact that that kind of life, 919 01:07:44,356 --> 01:07:48,277 a rum-punch evening and a later start kind of a thing, 920 01:07:48,402 --> 01:07:53,155 it will start to worm its way into your work methods. 921 01:07:53,282 --> 01:07:55,784 It would be a lie to say we came away from there 922 01:07:55,909 --> 01:07:59,621 without being touched deeply by the place. 923 01:07:59,746 --> 01:08:03,666 The sound of the island does come across on the record. 924 01:08:20,850 --> 01:08:23,311 I mean, it was almost too chill in a way. 925 01:08:23,436 --> 01:08:27,774 I remember, we were doing some track a couple of weeks into the record, 926 01:08:27,899 --> 01:08:31,278 and I was looking out and everybody was in a towel 927 01:08:31,403 --> 01:08:34,614 with sun cream on the nose, sunglasses. 928 01:08:34,739 --> 01:08:37,451 They were playing, like, 40 beats per minute. 929 01:08:37,576 --> 01:08:41,204 I was like, "We're making a record here! What is this?" 930 01:08:41,329 --> 01:08:43,372 It was too mellow. 931 01:08:43,497 --> 01:08:47,586 At any time in the studio, it's very easy to lose perspective, 932 01:08:47,711 --> 01:08:50,713 especially when you're locked up and it becomes your whole world. 933 01:08:50,838 --> 01:08:53,132 In fact, George Martin, down in Montserrat said to me, 934 01:08:53,257 --> 01:08:56,970 "You know, Neil, a producer can either drive the bus 935 01:08:57,095 --> 01:09:01,934 or he can sit next to the driver with the roadmap, you know?" 936 01:09:02,059 --> 01:09:06,729 And it was up to me to sort of keep that energy higher, 937 01:09:06,854 --> 01:09:08,731 because the record, I think, was suffering. 938 01:09:08,856 --> 01:09:12,819 Neil would be one of the most important people in my history. 939 01:09:12,944 --> 01:09:16,948 You know, it's due to him that we got back on track. 940 01:09:17,073 --> 01:09:21,203 We were there a long time before trying to get it going, but... 941 01:09:22,037 --> 01:09:27,376 Once we hit a groove we recorded the album very quickly, really fast. 942 01:09:27,501 --> 01:09:31,337 All the Brothers in Arms album was done in a few days. 943 01:09:43,307 --> 01:09:47,104 In a lot of our spare time, we used to go down to the beach, 944 01:09:47,229 --> 01:09:49,856 and we soon noticed there were a couple of windsurf boards, 945 01:09:49,981 --> 01:09:52,775 and that Danny was offering to teach windsurfing. 946 01:09:52,900 --> 01:09:56,363 I becomes friends with the Dire Straits band. 947 01:09:57,154 --> 01:09:59,867 That's after I had taught Alan Clark and Guy Fletcher to windsurf. 948 01:09:59,992 --> 01:10:04,121 So one day after I and Alan Clark went windsurfing and come out, Alan said, 949 01:10:04,246 --> 01:10:06,582 "I'm taking you up to the AIR Studios for lunch." 950 01:10:06,707 --> 01:10:09,208 I said, "OK", and I went up 951 01:10:09,333 --> 01:10:12,837 and they're there, and they're mixing the music they did. 952 01:10:13,713 --> 01:10:17,426 I started dancing to the music, and then he said to me, 953 01:10:18,676 --> 01:10:22,639 "You know I wrote a song on you dancing?" I said, 954 01:10:22,764 --> 01:10:28,936 "Mark, that's going to be a damn big recording hit for you. 955 01:10:29,061 --> 01:10:30,898 I'm predicting to you, 956 01:10:31,023 --> 01:10:34,859 that is going to be your biggest album that you ever make." 957 01:10:34,984 --> 01:10:37,820 Now, it's one of the biggest album in the world. 958 01:10:37,945 --> 01:10:39,739 Everybody loves the song Walk of Life. 959 01:10:51,918 --> 01:10:54,546 Brothers in Arms was one of the first all-digital recordings, 960 01:10:54,671 --> 01:10:59,467 and that in tandem with MTV blowing up at the same time, 961 01:10:59,592 --> 01:11:01,386 I think that's a huge reason 962 01:11:01,511 --> 01:11:03,971 why everything changed for the band at that point. 963 01:11:04,096 --> 01:11:06,140 OK, best British LP. 964 01:11:06,265 --> 01:11:08,226 Brothers in Arms, Dire Straits. 965 01:11:11,896 --> 01:11:14,858 I didn't have a clue about how successful the album was. 966 01:11:14,983 --> 01:11:18,110 I don't think we did. Never thought about it. 967 01:11:18,237 --> 01:11:23,574 When Philips invented the CD and then brought it out, 968 01:11:23,699 --> 01:11:26,869 that just coincided with the release of Brothers. 969 01:11:26,994 --> 01:11:32,000 So they took that and used it as, "This is what CD sounds like." 970 01:11:32,125 --> 01:11:35,503 And then, they used all their sales outlets to play the record. 971 01:11:35,628 --> 01:11:40,425 So that was an additional thing that just happened by a fluke, really. 972 01:11:40,551 --> 01:11:43,386 In the '80s, somebody smart figured out 973 01:11:43,511 --> 01:11:46,097 that you can make a boatload of money in the record business. 974 01:11:46,222 --> 01:11:48,766 And with the cheapness of CDs, 975 01:11:48,891 --> 01:11:54,605 to make a CD, to fully manufacture, everything was less than a dollar. 976 01:11:54,730 --> 01:11:57,400 So, there was a calculation there, 977 01:11:57,525 --> 01:12:01,697 and like everything in the modern world, it quickly became monetized. 978 01:12:02,154 --> 01:12:07,077 There was a lot of excitement associated with the coming of the CD. 979 01:12:07,536 --> 01:12:08,871 The consumer loved it. 980 01:12:08,996 --> 01:12:12,748 As a result, the record industry exploded at that point. 981 01:12:21,132 --> 01:12:23,217 It was a real shot in the arm, coming to Montserrat. 982 01:12:23,342 --> 01:12:26,345 It was a real special event for us. 983 01:12:26,470 --> 01:12:30,975 It still is, it's in our memories, it's still our favorite album. 984 01:12:40,527 --> 01:12:43,613 For us, the Rolling Stones coming to the studio was a big thing. 985 01:12:43,738 --> 01:12:47,993 Because obviously, George is more associated with the Beatles, 986 01:12:48,118 --> 01:12:52,122 and we'd had Keith Richards in doing the X-Pensive Winos and it was fabulous. 987 01:12:52,247 --> 01:12:55,458 I was talking to Keith Richards before, 988 01:12:55,583 --> 01:12:57,668 when he came to do his solo. 989 01:12:57,793 --> 01:12:59,671 He did a solo record. 990 01:12:59,796 --> 01:13:00,922 I was talking to him 991 01:13:01,047 --> 01:13:04,842 and I told him, "The Rolling Stones is one of my favorite bands." 992 01:13:04,967 --> 01:13:07,679 I asked him if they were coming back together. 993 01:13:07,804 --> 01:13:12,391 And he said to me, "I am the only man who could put the band back together, 994 01:13:12,518 --> 01:13:15,229 and I'm going to put it back together and we'll come here and record." 995 01:13:15,354 --> 01:13:17,730 And they did come to Montserrat. -Yeah, man. 996 01:13:17,855 --> 01:13:21,400 Keith has always insisted that Mick is the lead singer, 997 01:13:21,527 --> 01:13:24,488 as he is in the Rolling Stones, and he shouldn't do anything else. 998 01:13:24,613 --> 01:13:26,030 They just weren't getting on. 999 01:13:27,740 --> 01:13:29,826 We might as well start by posing the question 1000 01:13:29,952 --> 01:13:31,953 of whether the release of a Mick Jagger solo album 1001 01:13:32,078 --> 01:13:33,747 means the end of the Rolling Stones? 1002 01:13:33,872 --> 01:13:39,502 I'd done stuff with other people and the odd thing here and there. 1003 01:13:39,627 --> 01:13:43,215 I'd obviously played with other bands and jammed around, 1004 01:13:43,340 --> 01:13:45,259 but I thought it was a good moment 1005 01:13:45,384 --> 01:13:48,136 to break the pattern of just doing a Stones album 1006 01:13:48,261 --> 01:13:52,349 and just do something of my own for a change and step out a bit. 1007 01:13:52,474 --> 01:13:57,020 If Mick's albums had have been blockbusters, so to speak, 1008 01:13:57,145 --> 01:13:59,730 whatever that means, uh... 1009 01:14:01,483 --> 01:14:05,654 it would be very unlikely that I would be leaving tomorrow, 1010 01:14:05,779 --> 01:14:08,073 to start making a new Stones album. 1011 01:14:15,788 --> 01:14:17,082 Going down to Montserrat, 1012 01:14:17,207 --> 01:14:19,208 I was quite fearful of going down with the Stones, 1013 01:14:19,333 --> 01:14:24,256 because working on four or five albums with them previously, 1014 01:14:24,381 --> 01:14:27,842 I knew that they were very much city bound. 1015 01:14:32,389 --> 01:14:37,810 I think they were quite amazed how normal everybody was, really. 1016 01:14:37,935 --> 01:14:41,606 It's like when a band like the Stones suddenly appears on the island, 1017 01:14:41,731 --> 01:14:47,404 the expectation can be something so big, it can freak you out. 1018 01:14:47,904 --> 01:14:51,533 Keith Richards, all the guys, 1019 01:14:51,658 --> 01:14:56,662 they drink a lot, they smoke a lot, they eat a lot. 1020 01:14:56,787 --> 01:15:00,000 As I say, they were a whole set of good guys. 1021 01:15:06,256 --> 01:15:09,217 Don't go mad on the drums though, OK? 1022 01:15:09,342 --> 01:15:11,511 Looking at the body language 1023 01:15:11,636 --> 01:15:14,389 between, especially Mick and Keith in Montserrat, 1024 01:15:14,515 --> 01:15:16,390 it was very different to what I'd seen, 1025 01:15:16,516 --> 01:15:21,896 and this was one of the most friendly and warming atmospheres 1026 01:15:22,021 --> 01:15:23,689 I've seen between Mick and Keith. 1027 01:15:31,657 --> 01:15:34,326 We both agreed the best thing for the both of us 1028 01:15:34,451 --> 01:15:35,993 is to get together. Like, nobody else. 1029 01:15:36,118 --> 01:15:39,497 And it's very strange that it's easy between the two of us. 1030 01:15:39,622 --> 01:15:42,751 It's when other people are around that it can be a problem. 1031 01:15:42,876 --> 01:15:45,628 I think after the second day, we had three or four songs already. 1032 01:15:45,753 --> 01:15:48,631 When you start off on a roll like that, it helps, you know? 1033 01:15:49,591 --> 01:15:53,679 Peter Mensch and Cliff Burnstein came down, 1034 01:15:53,804 --> 01:15:56,515 and we were listening back to Mixed Emotions. 1035 01:15:56,640 --> 01:15:58,391 Peter Mensch was talking to Keith 1036 01:15:58,516 --> 01:16:01,811 suggesting that an arrangement change should be made. 1037 01:16:01,936 --> 01:16:06,608 At which point, Keith delved into his doctor's bag, 1038 01:16:06,733 --> 01:16:09,944 one of these beautiful old leather doctor's bags, 1039 01:16:10,069 --> 01:16:14,615 and bought out a knife and pinned it between his legs, 1040 01:16:14,740 --> 01:16:17,953 and said to Peter something in the terms of, 1041 01:16:18,078 --> 01:16:22,373 "Listen, sonny, nobody tells the Rolling Stones how to write a song." 1042 01:16:22,498 --> 01:16:26,670 Which I thought was classic, wonderful. And the arrangement never changed. 1043 01:16:26,795 --> 01:16:29,965 If I get up there, we need another chord in there. 1044 01:16:30,090 --> 01:16:34,761 I think we have to take another minor. -Yeah, one more minor, F, F and G. 1045 01:16:48,065 --> 01:16:49,150 I like it. 1046 01:16:49,275 --> 01:16:55,407 Montserrat was a huge part of rebooting the Stones, 1047 01:16:55,532 --> 01:16:59,036 helping them get back together, particularly Mick and Keith. 1048 01:16:59,161 --> 01:17:01,662 It was pretty sad when we all left 1049 01:17:01,787 --> 01:17:05,876 because they hadn't been that close for such a long time. 1050 01:17:06,001 --> 01:17:08,503 There was a sense of, um, you know, 1051 01:17:08,628 --> 01:17:11,506 when you finish school for the first time and you all break up. 1052 01:17:11,631 --> 01:17:14,176 It was a bit like that, breaking up for the summer holidays. 1053 01:17:14,301 --> 01:17:16,470 They weren't going to see each other for a long time. 1054 01:17:16,595 --> 01:17:18,262 One, two, three. 1055 01:17:46,750 --> 01:17:48,210 Good morning, everybody. 1056 01:17:48,335 --> 01:17:51,755 We're very pleased to announce that we are doing a big tour this year. 1057 01:17:51,880 --> 01:17:55,050 And we've got a new album which comes out and that's called Steel Wheels. 1058 01:17:55,175 --> 01:17:57,469 The first single's called Mixed Emotions. 1059 01:17:57,594 --> 01:17:59,220 I know you're dying to ask questions, 1060 01:17:59,345 --> 01:18:01,890 like, "Will this be the last tour you ever do?" 1061 01:18:02,474 --> 01:18:06,185 Well, the Stones were the last band to record in Montserrat. 1062 01:18:06,310 --> 01:18:10,064 There's been a few studios that they've been the last people to record in, 1063 01:18:10,189 --> 01:18:13,527 but they're not the reason that they've closed down. 1064 01:18:13,652 --> 01:18:16,070 It's always an act of God. 1065 01:18:16,195 --> 01:18:19,240 The thing about the Stones is that they do this thing 1066 01:18:19,365 --> 01:18:21,909 where, in the old days, they used to trash things. 1067 01:18:22,034 --> 01:18:26,957 They said, "This is what we usually do. On the last day, we trash the place." 1068 01:18:27,082 --> 01:18:28,917 In a way, Hurricane Hugo did it for them 1069 01:18:29,042 --> 01:18:32,880 because as soon as they'd gone, the hurricane hit. 1070 01:18:33,796 --> 01:18:37,466 Hurricane Hugo wiped us out, it wiped the island out almost. 1071 01:18:38,342 --> 01:18:40,761 There are only 12.000 people living on the island, 1072 01:18:40,887 --> 01:18:44,975 and 11.000 of them lost their homes. It was pretty devastating. 1073 01:18:45,100 --> 01:18:47,019 But they picked themselves up 1074 01:18:47,144 --> 01:18:49,313 and it took a year, or a bit more than a year 1075 01:18:49,438 --> 01:18:51,355 to get back anything like normal. 1076 01:18:54,359 --> 01:18:58,322 I wasn't able to get to Montserrat after the hurricane 1077 01:18:58,447 --> 01:19:00,282 until after about six weeks. 1078 01:19:00,908 --> 01:19:03,493 So I got a flash lamp and I went into the studio 1079 01:19:03,618 --> 01:19:05,787 to see how that had fared. 1080 01:19:05,912 --> 01:19:09,750 Went over to the piano and opened the keyboard, 1081 01:19:09,875 --> 01:19:15,171 and all the ivory keys were covered in green mold. 1082 01:19:15,296 --> 01:19:18,759 And I realized then we were done. 1083 01:19:24,765 --> 01:19:29,394 By the time the hurricane hit, it was becoming a burden to them. 1084 01:19:29,520 --> 01:19:33,231 The kind of budgets that people had were long gone. 1085 01:19:33,356 --> 01:19:37,069 The accountants were really starting to dig into the music business, 1086 01:19:37,194 --> 01:19:41,198 and it wasn't the era that we built it for. 1087 01:19:45,452 --> 01:19:47,871 I think technology changed, things moved to digital. 1088 01:19:47,996 --> 01:19:50,248 And so, just the equipment levels... 1089 01:19:50,373 --> 01:19:52,542 Recording studios started changing a lot. 1090 01:19:52,667 --> 01:19:54,336 They became more accessible, 1091 01:19:54,461 --> 01:19:56,755 album budgets started getting cut. All of these things. 1092 01:19:59,800 --> 01:20:02,469 Recording studios, they all have a shelf-life, 1093 01:20:02,594 --> 01:20:09,350 because in the end, they are ruled by forces that are bigger than us. 1094 01:20:09,475 --> 01:20:11,435 I think the demise of the album 1095 01:20:11,561 --> 01:20:15,189 is directly related to the shift from analog to digital. 1096 01:20:15,314 --> 01:20:19,278 A lot of the restrictions we dealt with in recording analog 1097 01:20:19,403 --> 01:20:24,615 were lovely parameters to keep the reins kinda tight. 1098 01:20:24,740 --> 01:20:27,243 And with digital came unlimited options, 1099 01:20:27,368 --> 01:20:30,788 and I think things took a pretty serious shift at that change. 1100 01:20:32,541 --> 01:20:35,210 It's as if there is something there 1101 01:20:35,335 --> 01:20:38,212 that drew all that music, drew all that creativity, 1102 01:20:38,337 --> 01:20:40,465 and then it was like, "The power's gone now." 1103 01:20:40,591 --> 01:20:42,509 So, that's finished and move on. 1104 01:20:50,934 --> 01:20:52,935 We heard that our volcano was dormant, 1105 01:20:53,060 --> 01:20:56,606 but we never understood until our volcano started erupting 1106 01:20:56,731 --> 01:20:59,443 that dormant actually meant potentially active. 1107 01:21:00,444 --> 01:21:02,237 And so, I was in the studio. 1108 01:21:02,362 --> 01:21:07,158 One of the technicians came and said, "Rose, the volcano is erupting." 1109 01:21:33,685 --> 01:21:38,564 I sat before the microphone, I said, "Everybody, I know that you are scared." 1110 01:21:38,689 --> 01:21:42,485 If you feel like praying, pray. If you feel like crying, cry. 1111 01:21:42,610 --> 01:21:45,863 But I'll be here, I'll be here with you all the way. 1112 01:21:45,988 --> 01:21:49,784 All the time, I'll be here, just keep listening to the radio station. 1113 01:21:49,909 --> 01:21:53,704 "This is Rose. It's gonna be OK. Just stay with me." 1114 01:21:58,292 --> 01:22:00,045 The sky was just, like, frightening. 1115 01:22:00,170 --> 01:22:03,340 Especially, I can remember the first ash plume 1116 01:22:03,465 --> 01:22:05,132 that went up about 60.000 feet. 1117 01:22:05,259 --> 01:22:07,761 The whole island, you have bright sunshine like this, 1118 01:22:07,886 --> 01:22:10,721 and suddenly it's like night, you can't see a thing. 1119 01:22:11,974 --> 01:22:13,475 No one's here. 1120 01:22:13,600 --> 01:22:18,104 For me, it was a very, very bad experience, it was very scary. 1121 01:22:18,229 --> 01:22:21,024 Because one night, they tell you to go back home. 1122 01:22:21,149 --> 01:22:23,777 Before the night is out, you gotta move in the middle of the night again, 1123 01:22:23,902 --> 01:22:28,282 and the next day you don't know what to do, where you're gonna sleep. 1124 01:22:28,407 --> 01:22:32,034 Because all your mind, "Should I go home? 1125 01:22:32,159 --> 01:22:33,494 Should I stay in the shelter?" 1126 01:22:33,619 --> 01:22:35,329 You don't know what to do. You're confused. 1127 01:22:56,018 --> 01:22:59,813 And you know, we didn't understand the magnitude of an eruption, 1128 01:22:59,938 --> 01:23:01,230 what it can do to an island. 1129 01:23:01,355 --> 01:23:05,694 It entirely changed the entire landscape in Montserrat and the whole country. 1130 01:23:05,819 --> 01:23:08,822 And I was amazed what could happen. 1131 01:23:12,743 --> 01:23:17,079 Many, almost all Montserratians were displaced. 1132 01:23:17,831 --> 01:23:20,626 Whether they were on that side or this side, 1133 01:23:20,751 --> 01:23:23,252 it was a rough time for everyone here. 1134 01:23:23,377 --> 01:23:26,756 And you just had to go somewhere else and start over. 1135 01:23:27,341 --> 01:23:28,759 I hate the volcano. 1136 01:23:28,884 --> 01:23:32,720 I hated the fact that it did so much to Montserrat. 1137 01:23:40,103 --> 01:23:42,439 I remember sailing past Montserrat 1138 01:23:42,564 --> 01:23:45,484 a few years after the volcano erupted, 1139 01:23:45,609 --> 01:23:48,110 and sailing past Plymouth 1140 01:23:48,237 --> 01:23:52,032 and just seeing what looked like a nuclear winter. 1141 01:23:52,157 --> 01:23:54,283 It was covered in white dust. 1142 01:23:54,408 --> 01:23:59,206 This thriving, bustling Caribbean town was a ghost town. 1143 01:23:59,331 --> 01:24:02,667 And it was frightening and upsetting, 1144 01:24:02,792 --> 01:24:05,253 because I had so many happy memories of that place 1145 01:24:05,378 --> 01:24:09,006 with my bandmates, my children, my family. 1146 01:24:09,131 --> 01:24:15,055 It makes me actually kind of tear up when I think about it because... 1147 01:24:15,972 --> 01:24:20,394 it's a special place that was taken away, 1148 01:24:20,519 --> 01:24:24,355 that will never be the same again. 1149 01:24:24,480 --> 01:24:29,735 You can never go back and get that same energy again. 1150 01:24:29,862 --> 01:24:32,655 And for the people that lived there, 1151 01:24:32,780 --> 01:24:38,244 for them to lose everything in just one fleeting instant, 1152 01:24:38,369 --> 01:24:39,872 it devastates me. 1153 01:25:07,149 --> 01:25:09,775 Most of us cried, because we lost our town. 1154 01:25:10,903 --> 01:25:14,405 We'd lost that important, integral part of our history. 1155 01:25:15,740 --> 01:25:18,452 And I can close my eyes and I'm still back there. 1156 01:25:24,248 --> 01:25:28,462 But since the volcanic activity, Montserrat has grown in size, 1157 01:25:28,587 --> 01:25:32,966 and for me, I consider it to be a pleasure to be around at this time 1158 01:25:33,091 --> 01:25:35,551 to see my island grow. 1159 01:25:35,676 --> 01:25:39,972 Because look at all the ash and the new fertilizer it has brought. 1160 01:25:40,097 --> 01:25:44,603 And so, I consider the volcano to be a perpetual part of who we are. 1161 01:25:52,694 --> 01:25:55,488 You can't really walk around the estate now. 1162 01:25:56,739 --> 01:26:00,786 And so, I feel it was of a time. 1163 01:26:01,494 --> 01:26:05,541 And now it should slowly go back to the jungle where it came from. 1164 01:26:12,005 --> 01:26:14,966 The '80s are like a hundred years in the rear-view mirror. 1165 01:26:15,091 --> 01:26:20,221 It was a very special time, and quality of studio, and vibe-wise, 1166 01:26:20,346 --> 01:26:24,768 the '80s was like the Renaissance, the golden era of studio recording. 1167 01:26:29,105 --> 01:26:32,693 Those studios are kind of an era that has gone. 1168 01:26:32,818 --> 01:26:36,738 Some types of music are best recorded in a big room, 1169 01:26:36,863 --> 01:26:40,868 but you just get your drums in that big room for a day, 1170 01:26:40,993 --> 01:26:44,787 and then you go back home and fiddle with it on your own gear at home. 1171 01:26:44,912 --> 01:26:47,791 It's just not the way artists make records anymore. 1172 01:26:51,086 --> 01:26:54,297 There's footage of that place, there are photographs of that place, 1173 01:26:54,422 --> 01:26:58,510 there are living memories of that place. That's history. 1174 01:26:58,635 --> 01:27:02,139 Whether it's around today, 1175 01:27:02,264 --> 01:27:05,266 it's something that we still carry with us, 1176 01:27:05,391 --> 01:27:07,853 the ones who were lucky enough to experience it. 1177 01:27:07,978 --> 01:27:11,105 It's still vibrant and alive to us. 1178 01:27:14,400 --> 01:27:16,528 As technology has evolved to the point 1179 01:27:16,653 --> 01:27:20,532 where, unbelievable, and people make whole albums on their phone. 1180 01:27:20,657 --> 01:27:25,746 But I think the actual ingredients, when you conceive of something, 1181 01:27:25,871 --> 01:27:29,582 head, and your heart, your hands to play an instrument, 1182 01:27:29,707 --> 01:27:32,377 you use some kind of a recording device to put it down, 1183 01:27:32,502 --> 01:27:34,671 those elements haven't changed. 1184 01:27:45,556 --> 01:27:48,100 It's like seeing something you've created 1185 01:27:48,226 --> 01:27:51,020 falling into disrepair. 1186 01:27:51,646 --> 01:27:53,856 But it's like everything in life, isn't it? 1187 01:27:53,981 --> 01:27:55,943 Everything has a period. 1188 01:27:56,068 --> 01:27:59,404 You know, you bring something out of nothing, 1189 01:27:59,529 --> 01:28:03,408 and it always goes back to nothing again, whatever. 1190 01:28:04,701 --> 01:28:06,912 My father was a man who got enormous pleasure 1191 01:28:07,037 --> 01:28:10,207 from other people's happiness. He passed away years ago, 1192 01:28:10,332 --> 01:28:13,585 but he passed away as a very content man with what he'd done with his life. 1193 01:28:13,710 --> 01:28:16,003 And Montserrat was a huge part of that life, 1194 01:28:16,128 --> 01:28:19,757 and a huge part of a dream that he fulfilled in doing something amazing. 1195 01:28:20,175 --> 01:28:25,721 I think that it had its natural end, and that it was closure for him. 1196 01:28:31,561 --> 01:28:33,438 Shall we tune the guitar for you, man? 1197 01:28:33,564 --> 01:28:36,817 George knew the space between the notes 1198 01:28:36,942 --> 01:28:40,319 was as exciting as the note you played. 1199 01:28:40,444 --> 01:28:45,576 That rhythm that keeps us alive, the heartbeat, it's in all of us. 1200 01:28:45,701 --> 01:28:47,953 It's the heartbeat you hear in your mother's womb 1201 01:28:48,078 --> 01:28:49,537 that entices you out to dance. 1202 01:28:49,662 --> 01:28:53,332 And we need that. We need to touch base with what we do as human beings. 1203 01:28:53,457 --> 01:28:57,378 And what better an example than making music? 1204 01:28:57,503 --> 01:28:59,172 And it's about collaboration. 1205 01:28:59,297 --> 01:29:04,511 It's about the dream that George had of that wonderful space in Montserrat 1206 01:29:04,636 --> 01:29:07,847 where you had the sun, the sea, nature, 1207 01:29:08,849 --> 01:29:11,393 each other's company and music. 1208 01:29:14,393 --> 01:29:18,393 Preuzeto sa www.titlovi.com 110613

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