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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:20,120 ♪♪ 2 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:38,960 ♪♪ 3 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:44,200 Reagan: America is back, standing tall, 4 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:47,400 looking to the eighties with courage, confidence, and hope. 5 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:49,840 Jackson: We are not going to be put back into slavery 6 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:53,680 by our own people, who are selling dope to destroy us. 7 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:56,400 Announcer: On September 15th, Nike created 8 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:59,720 a revolutionary new basketball shoe. 9 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:03,760 On October 18th, the NBA threw them out of the game. 10 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:09,760 Man: Government is not the solution to our problem. 11 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:11,400 Government is the problem. 12 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:12,840 Man #2: Air Jordan, Air Jordan. 13 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:14,880 Man #3: Air Jordan, Air Jordan, Air Jordan. 14 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:16,080 This is something you can buy. 15 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:24,600 ♪♪ 16 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:29,800 Man #4: Michael! Michael, you stuck it baby! 17 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:34,800 Bush: Read my lips. No new taxes. 18 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:46,280 ♪♪ 19 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:48,400 Woman: People waited in line all night long 20 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:52,400 to get the new Air Jordan basketball shoes. 21 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:56,800 They literally broke a door off the hinges. 22 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:58,440 Several people were trampled, 23 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:01,200 while others crawled over them to get inside. 24 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:03,400 The shoes cost about $180. 25 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:04,920 Man: That's a lot of money to spend on shoes though, isn't it? 26 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:06,440 Yeah. 27 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:08,880 You know it's Michael Jordan, that's what he do. 28 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:10,200 All they want is that shoe. 29 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:11,400 My son, he just got to have them. 30 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:12,960 Man: Thank you, God bless you, 31 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:16,280 and God bless the United States of America. 32 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:23,680 Letterman: This last season, my next guest led his team, 33 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:25,680 the Chicago Bulls, into the NBA playoffs, 34 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:29,320 scoring a record of an amazing 63 points in a single game. 35 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:31,000 He is only 23 years of age. 36 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:32,880 Please welcome Michael Jordan, folks. 37 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:36,240 [ Cheers and applause ] 38 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:37,720 Hi, Michael. 39 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:38,960 Nice to see you. How are you? 40 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:40,160 Come on over. 41 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:45,440 My, oh my. 42 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:46,680 I got one thing to say. 43 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:48,560 Yeah? What's that? 44 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:48,560 I see Adidas shoes. 45 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:50,280 Yeah. 46 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:50,280 Why? 47 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:52,000 Well, now we can't talk about this, because the last time 48 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:54,720 we started talking about shoes, there was a huge deal, 49 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:56,200 and they had to run up to the legal department 50 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:58,480 and wake up the attorneys. 51 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:00,800 Now, I know you've got a huge contract with the company. 52 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:02,000 Put your feet down. 53 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:04,040 [ Laughter ] 54 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:06,320 Now, how much do you -- no stop that. 55 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:07,520 Or they won't let any of this on. 56 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:09,120 Okay. 57 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:10,440 Now, how much do you get paid just to wear these shoes? 58 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:12,080 A lot. 59 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:19,760 ♪♪ 60 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:27,400 ♪♪ 61 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:29,560 Well, Nike started as a running company. 62 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:30,960 They started in the running business. 63 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:32,880 And they were successful in the running business. 64 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:35,360 They wanted to grow, and branch out. 65 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:37,000 They got into other sports. 66 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:41,360 Then, in 1984, they weren't doing very well. 67 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:43,760 Dixon: In the early eighties, that was when they slipped 68 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:46,120 to number two in America, to Reebok. 69 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:49,040 And at that time, Knight asked the group 70 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:51,080 "Do you think we should sell now?" 71 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:54,720 And they all said "No. we can figure a way out of it." 72 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:57,880 Nike was considered to be kind of like a stepchild 73 00:03:57,880 --> 00:03:59,280 in the shoe game, at that point. 74 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:02,400 It was Converse. It was Adidas. 75 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:05,800 Other brands were much more solidly entrenched than Nike. 76 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:08,800 Nike was just this little company that could, 77 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:11,800 that was trying to fight for a piece of the market share. 78 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:15,680 Everybody in the business knew that the main consumer 79 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:18,400 for athletic shoes is 16-year-old boys. 80 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:23,000 So, the biggest sport to get to the masses is basketball. 81 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:26,040 Man: So, Nike knew that they needed to be in basketball, 82 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:28,760 but nobody really thought of Nike as a basketball brand, 83 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:30,160 particularly the kid. 84 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:33,000 The kid, as they called him, was the customer 85 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:35,200 who would buy basketball shoes. 86 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:37,280 And a lot of them were inner city kids. 87 00:04:37,280 --> 00:04:41,400 So, Rob Strasser decided what we needed was an icon. 88 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:44,520 We needed to find ourselves a basketball player 89 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:46,280 that kids wanted to be. 90 00:04:46,280 --> 00:04:48,840 ♪ Like Michael. Fight to be like Michael. ♪ 91 00:04:48,840 --> 00:04:51,200 ♪ I want to be, I want to be like Michael. ♪ 92 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:54,200 ♪ Like Michael. If I could be like Mike ♪ 93 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:56,480 You know the reality is that black people, 94 00:04:56,480 --> 00:05:01,480 since the beginning of time, have always made things cool. 95 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:03,000 Jazz, rock 'n' roll. 96 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:05,360 I mean, you pick literally anything, 97 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:07,000 from a cultural standpoint, 98 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:10,280 and we have always been the arbitrators of cool. 99 00:05:10,280 --> 00:05:12,800 And it was really no different with sneakers. 100 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:14,360 Williams: Marketing the Jordan brand 101 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:15,880 to the African American community 102 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:19,040 has been the core of the success of the Jordan brand. 103 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:21,920 And so, in order for Jordan to be as successful 104 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:23,920 as they have been, they had to start with 105 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:25,680 the African American market. 106 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:29,760 And they had to take that, and grow it to this massive brand 107 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:32,560 that it is today. 108 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:35,120 Telander: In the 1980s, the African American community 109 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:37,000 was struggling to try to find a leader, 110 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:39,000 try to find something to believe in. 111 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:42,760 You could say it was about race, or skin color, or ethnicity, 112 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:45,120 but it was mostly, as always, about poverty. 113 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:47,960 About economic disparity, and about hope, 114 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:50,080 and about a chance to move ahead, 115 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:54,400 to actually become part of the alleged great American ladder, 116 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:57,520 where you can start anywhere, and you can make it to the top. 117 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:00,200 That great myth that we believe in, here in this country. 118 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:03,680 Hill: The 1980s was a volatile time in this country. 119 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:05,600 You know, growing up in Detroit, for us, 120 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:07,600 I mean, we were no different than New York, 121 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:10,080 Chicago, where the influx of drugs 122 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:13,080 had, overnight, kind of changed a lot of middle class, 123 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:14,640 working class neighborhoods. 124 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:16,000 It was a depressing time, 125 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:19,120 because a lot of what those baby boomers 126 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:21,120 that were there and fought through civil rights 127 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:24,040 in the sixties and seventies, they were kind of seeing 128 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:26,640 the progress that they made slip away. 129 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:28,680 [ Crowd chanting "Four more years!" ] 130 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:30,520 Lazenby: Well, you know, American society 131 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:33,040 was experiencing the Reagan years. 132 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:36,840 And it was the early birth of the conservative movement 133 00:06:36,840 --> 00:06:40,120 as we know it today, with neo-conservatives. 134 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:43,960 Definitely, Ronald Reagan had lit the fires 135 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:46,520 for conservative thought. 136 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:48,520 Reagan: The present recession is bottoming out 137 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:50,880 without resorting to quick fixes. 138 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:53,440 There won't be a sudden boom, or upsurge, 139 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:55,160 but slowly and surely, 140 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:57,800 we'll have a sound and lasting recovery, 141 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:00,800 and an end to deficit spending. 142 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:02,920 Garcia: Generally, when you have Republican leadership, 143 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:08,160 it shifts and leans towards empowering corporate America, 144 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:10,000 privatization of institutions. 145 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:13,000 There's less funding for community programs. 146 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:14,520 You know, there was a big divide, 147 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:20,920 and a gap in the support for the youth. 148 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:23,160 Kent: Well, what was going on in the eighties, 149 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:26,400 it was communities within communities 150 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:27,800 building upon themselves, 151 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:29,720 and trying to take care of themselves. 152 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:35,240 And it kind of started fragmenting because of crack. 153 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:37,680 And because crack was so devastating, 154 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:41,040 it devastated the neighborhoods that we lived in. 155 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:44,400 Man: By the hundreds, Bronx residents made themselves heard today 156 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:47,680 to call for more action against the crack epidemic -- 157 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:49,720 an epidemic measured in violence, 158 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:52,440 broken homes, and burnt-out youngsters. 159 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:54,560 Well, the first thing that you learn about sport 160 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:56,880 is that sport is a microcosm society. 161 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:59,240 And because this was happening in society, 162 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:00,760 it's always gonna seep into sport. 163 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:03,000 No different than, you know, what's happening 164 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:04,800 with the killing of unarmed black men 165 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:08,200 has seeped into the NFL with the Anthem protest. 166 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:10,720 And when you talk about the tragic deaths of athletes 167 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:12,200 like Len Bias, 168 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:13,800 which I think really changed everything. 169 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:16,040 By all intents and purposes people considered him 170 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:17,560 the next Michael Jordan. 171 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:18,960 When he collapsed, and passed away, 172 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:21,920 I think it really frightened a lot of people. 173 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:24,640 Len Bias was an all-American basketball star, 174 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:27,280 the University of Maryland's leading scorer. 175 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:30,200 And after four years of college, he was drafted this week 176 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:32,400 by the champion Boston Celtics. 177 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:35,360 Announcer: The world champion Celtics use their first round draft choice 178 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:38,680 to pick Bias to play for them after his graduation. 179 00:08:38,680 --> 00:08:42,960 This morning, Len Bias was dead of cardio respiratory arrest. 180 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:44,600 No one knows why yet. 181 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:46,680 There are reports that traces of cocaine 182 00:08:46,680 --> 00:08:48,640 were found in Bias' system. 183 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:53,640 Hill: The death of Len Bias, 184 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:56,840 it not only was a sports story it was an American story 185 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:59,040 that wind up having a deep impact 186 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:02,360 on how people viewed the drug problem in this country. 187 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:05,560 And so, this was a death that affected policy, 188 00:09:05,560 --> 00:09:08,000 and that led to the mandatory minimums 189 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:10,560 that wound up being kind of the gateway 190 00:09:10,560 --> 00:09:14,000 to the huge explosion in mass incarceration. 191 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:17,080 So, it wasn't just about this particular athlete 192 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:18,760 dying of a drug overdose. 193 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:23,160 This was about how this death shaped American policy 194 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:25,040 when it came to criminal justice. 195 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:27,800 That was coming out of the 1970s. 196 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:31,520 Cocaine was a big party drug in the NBA itself. 197 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:36,640 In 1984, David Stern would become commissioner, 198 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:40,520 and they would begin all of the drug policy 199 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:45,480 that eventually allowed the NBA to raise its profile. 200 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:50,240 But it took a while for that to really gain traction. 201 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:52,400 ♪ We're the LA Lakers, and we're here to say ♪ 202 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:54,680 ♪ that the drugs are killing everything ♪ 203 00:09:54,680 --> 00:09:57,000 ♪ Cocaine and crack, it's all got to go ♪ 204 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:59,200 ♪ We've got to learn to just say "no" ♪ 205 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:01,200 ♪ I'm Kareem, the captain of the team ♪ 206 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:03,520 ♪ I don't need drugs, I've got a higher thing ♪ 207 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:05,320 ♪ My sky hook makes the team look good. ♪ 208 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:08,320 ♪ But there's a hook we got to shape from the neighborhood ♪ 209 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:11,960 Telander: In the eighties, basketball was starting, for the first time, 210 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:13,200 particularly at the highest levels, 211 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:15,800 to be dominated by black athletes. 212 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:17,600 And it hadn't been that way because of racism 213 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:19,240 and segregation. 214 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:20,920 You know, there had always been the greats, the Wrens, 215 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:22,360 and the Harlem Globe Trotters. 216 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:24,440 But people said "That doesn't really count." 217 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:29,040 Announcer: The Globe Trotters have made basketball 218 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:31,600 into something more like a ballet than a sport. 219 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:32,960 Supremely confident, 220 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:35,160 their choreography of sparkling precision 221 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:39,000 that leaves both spectators and opponents mystified. 222 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:43,000 Telander: The Chicago Bulls were a reflection of this new time. 223 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:45,760 Many of the players were black, many of the stars were, 224 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:47,760 and the crowd was still white. 225 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:50,880 You could sense, maybe, if not a tension, 226 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:53,960 but not a real kind of community feeling 227 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:58,040 between the basketball team and the surrounding area. 228 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:01,760 Lazenby: I remember going to Chicago Stadium, 229 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:05,360 which was located in blighted neighborhoods, 230 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:10,880 and there was a real sense of cultural clash there. 231 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:12,400 I think, until Jordan came, 232 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:15,200 Chicago wasn't really a destination for anybody. 233 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:17,480 They just didn't have that transcendent sports team 234 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:19,720 to make things change. 235 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:27,200 Lazenby: The Chicago Bulls were a relatively young franchise 236 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:28,600 in the early 1980s. 237 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:33,440 They'd only really gotten started in 1966/67. 238 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:37,800 But they were a dismal franchise in deep financial trouble. 239 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:41,200 On the outside, the Bulls were just a sad franchise. 240 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:44,840 But at the same time, the city wasn't expecting much from them. 241 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:48,640 There was always a sense of the Bulls doing decent -- 242 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:50,880 never big, decent. 243 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:53,080 Bengtson: You just didn't care. Like, they didn't matter. 244 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:54,880 They were a team that came into town, 245 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:57,400 and they played, and no one cared. 246 00:11:57,400 --> 00:11:59,840 Announcer: Chicago hasn't scored in the last two minutes. 247 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:04,200 There was a reason that they got to draft Michael Jordan third. 248 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:07,000 I mean, Houston took Hakeem. 249 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:10,160 The Portland Trailblazers took Sam Bowie. 250 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:11,640 Yeah, he went third. 251 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:13,360 Bengtson: They were awful. 252 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:14,960 You obviously don't get the number-three pick in the draft 253 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:16,240 unless you're terrible. 254 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:18,880 And they were pretty terrible. 255 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:20,400 Lazenby: Michael Jordan signing with the Bulls, 256 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:22,200 the fact that he was the third player taken, 257 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:26,200 and the Bulls had that third choice, was just amazing. 258 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:30,440 The Chicago Bulls pick Michael Jordan. 259 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:35,440 ♪♪ 260 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:37,320 Lazenby: People thought, "Well, you know, I saw this guy play 261 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:39,440 in college for North Carolina. 262 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:40,720 He was pretty exciting." 263 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:46,880 ♪♪ 264 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:53,040 ♪♪ 265 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:54,320 Jackson: He was the two-time Player of the Year 266 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:55,960 after his freshman year. 267 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:57,760 But if you really followed the game, he still wasn't -- 268 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:00,400 to a lot of people, wasn't the best player in the ACC. 269 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:02,760 You know, Len Bias was the best player in the ACC. 270 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:06,600 That kind of shifted during that summer with USA basketball. 271 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:09,160 You know, we kind of knew the dude was nice. 272 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:10,800 But it was after the draft 273 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:12,880 when we find out how nice he really was. 274 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:17,280 We didn't know he had the ability to score like that. 275 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:21,800 Announcer: Jordan gets Sims off his feet, and shoots right over him. 276 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:23,800 There's Jordan. 277 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:25,920 14 for Michael Jordan. 278 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:27,600 Then, Fleming from Georgia, 279 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:31,680 nice dump pass by Alford to the acrobatic Michael Jordan. 280 00:13:31,680 --> 00:13:33,400 And some people were like, "Oh, my God. 281 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:34,920 We just got, I think, 282 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:37,000 a great, great basketball player." 283 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:38,360 But nobody knew. 284 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:39,920 The Americans were so much better 285 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:43,040 than everybody else in 1984 that it was almost absurd 286 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:47,120 to make any comparisons about anything. 287 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:48,880 Announcer: Jordan again. 288 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:50,080 Announcer #2: He's beautiful. 289 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:52,320 And Nike had identified him. 290 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:55,120 Sonny Vaccaro, who was an executive at Nike, 291 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:57,200 not even a high-level executive. 292 00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:00,400 But he managed a lot of Nike's basketball business. 293 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:03,400 He got the sense, in watching Jordan as freshman 294 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:05,040 at the Final Four 295 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:09,840 that Jordan was going to be this cross-over person. 296 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:12,760 And on Sonny Vaccaro's hunch, 297 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:15,640 they were already negotiating his contract with Nike. 298 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:20,200 ♪♪ 299 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:23,040 You know, Sonny is the driving force who convinced them. 300 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:25,680 Like, "Look. Don't spread everything out. 301 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:27,600 you know, "Trust me, this one guy -- 302 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:29,880 this Michael Jordan coming out of North Carolina -- 303 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:31,760 is gonna be the guy." 304 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:32,960 Announcer: Michael Jordan. 305 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:34,280 Everything seems to be 306 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:36,240 like a highlight film when he plays. 307 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:38,320 Man: Well, Sonny Vaccaro came to Nike 308 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:40,000 basically through the college ranks. 309 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:42,280 And he had a tournament called "The Dapper Dan," 310 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:43,840 that was held in Pittsburgh, 311 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:46,400 that Nike had wanted to get involved with, 312 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:49,560 because that was where top high school kids went to play. 313 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:52,160 So, if you really wanted to know who the next basketball player 314 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:55,520 was gonna be, you went to Sonny Vaccaro. 315 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:57,320 You know, he was the one who convinced them, 316 00:14:57,320 --> 00:14:59,240 "if you pay a college coach X amount, 317 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:00,600 they'll wear your shoes. 318 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:02,320 Give me this budget, and I'll go get you 319 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:03,680 the best college coaches." 320 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:06,640 The deal was this coach, you sign the coach, 321 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:10,280 his team wears Nike shoes. 322 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:15,200 Sonny really knew how to spot the young basketball stars. 323 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:16,800 To get them when they're in high school, 324 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:19,560 to get them in the Nike shoes, to get them used to them, 325 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:22,720 so when they turned pro, they would go with Nike. 326 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:23,920 Garcia: It was brilliant. 327 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:25,400 Sonny Vaccaro at Nike, 328 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:28,200 like, he knew what he was doing, you know? 329 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:29,960 It was like "Alright, well, we can't compete with y'all 330 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:32,760 up there, but we're gonna kill y'all over here. 331 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:34,880 And all these cats that are here 332 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:37,520 are gonna be those next Julius Erving, 333 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:40,360 Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, and Tiny Archibald." 334 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:41,880 Lazenby: The coaches were stunned. 335 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:43,520 They didn't think it was legal. 336 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:45,280 Is this free money? 337 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:48,400 And sales were rising accordingly 338 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:50,400 with all this new exposure. 339 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:53,040 No question that Nike Basketball, 340 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:54,600 including Air Jordan, 341 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:56,440 and including the rest of it, 342 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:59,440 would not be where it is without Sonny Vaccaro. 343 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:01,840 Phil Knight may not want to admit it. 344 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:03,600 Sonny Vaccaro built it. 345 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:06,560 He and Rob Strasser together built what is today 346 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:08,520 known as Nike Basketball. 347 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:15,000 ♪♪ 348 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:18,240 Vaccaro: You know, I'm gonna give you a surprise. 349 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:21,320 I'm gonna show you the one priceless thing 350 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:23,200 that Michael Jordan gave to me. 351 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:24,840 He was playing the Los Angeles Lakers 352 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:26,480 the year that they won the championship. 353 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:28,440 And Howard White called me, and says, 354 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:30,600 "Michael left you a pair of shoes." 355 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:32,160 And what do I get? 356 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:35,440 This is the famous shoe when he hurt his toe 357 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:38,200 against the Lakers, playing for the world championship, 358 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:39,760 that he wore that night. 359 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:41,600 And he gave them to me. 360 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:45,360 In my opinion, the most priceless Jordan shoes, 361 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:48,200 because we know there's only one pair of the ones 362 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:50,120 he wore in that game. 363 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:52,480 Announcer: And the Bulls do not have any timeouts remaining. 364 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:56,400 Craig Hodges, a three point specialist, has checked in. 365 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:58,560 Here's Jordan on the pull up. 366 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:00,200 Yes! 367 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:07,440 And the game is tied at 92 with 3:04 seconds remaining. 368 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:10,000 Alright, Marv, one thing is gonna bother the Bulls. 369 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:12,240 Just during that last play, Michael Jordan hurt 370 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:13,560 the tip of his big toe. 371 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:15,200 They've taken it out, and taken a look at it, 372 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:17,640 and it's gonna be painful, but he'll try to go with it. 373 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:20,640 Vaccaro: In the mid 1980s -- 82, 83 I guess, 374 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:24,400 Nike was gonna finally sign a pro player 375 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:26,360 that was gonna be a signature shoe -- 376 00:17:26,360 --> 00:17:28,600 which was the new term at that time. 377 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:32,280 And it was a very good draft class at 1984, 378 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:33,800 very good draft class. 379 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:36,600 And it came down to selecting somebody. 380 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:39,320 So, they asked me, "What do I do?" 381 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:41,720 And I just said, "Give it to the kid." 382 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:47,240 If you're gonna name a shoe after a high flier, 383 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:49,080 how in the hell can you give it two or three? 384 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:51,000 There's only one chief. 385 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:55,800 The famous phrase was, "Will you bet your job?" 386 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:57,640 I said, "Give it all to Jordan. 387 00:17:57,640 --> 00:17:59,960 He has what you want." 388 00:17:59,960 --> 00:18:02,840 Announcer: Gordie to Jordan. Breaks out on him. 389 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:05,160 Good coverage, defensively. He still hit it. 390 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:07,440 Oh, what presence of mind. 391 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:11,160 Announcer #2: It's amazing what the freshman can do. 392 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:22,800 Lazenby: Nike's executives decided to plow their entire budget 393 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:24,800 into this young Michael Jordan, 394 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:29,800 who had never played an NBA game. 395 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:32,000 Knight: And we didn't even know who Jordan was. 396 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:35,720 He played for North Carolina, which was a Dean Smith school. 397 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:37,600 Dean Smith was a Converse guy. 398 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:40,920 So, we assumed all his guys were gonna go to Converse. 399 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:43,800 Well, Sonny convinced us that we could get this guy. 400 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:46,600 And so, he set about to go get him. 401 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:49,880 At one point, they wanted to bring Michael out to Beaverton, 402 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:51,600 sort of like college recruit. 403 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:53,280 They wanted to have a campus visit -- except for one thing. 404 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:54,720 Michael didn't want to go. 405 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:56,480 He said, "David, I have no interest in Nike. 406 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:57,880 I don't know anything about Nike. 407 00:18:57,880 --> 00:18:59,520 If you want to go see Nike, like you go." 408 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:01,200 I said, "Well, I don't need to see Nike. 409 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:03,920 But you can't make an intelligent informed decision 410 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:06,840 until you see the campus, and see what they have to offer, 411 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:08,400 and see what the people are like, 412 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:10,680 and what the product is like." 413 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:12,480 He turned me down. So, I went to his parents. 414 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:14,520 I said, "Look, it's the very first thing ever 415 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:15,760 I'm asking him to do 416 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:16,960 since he picked me to work with him. 417 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:18,640 You've got to help me. 418 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:20,560 We can't work together if he's not gonna at least visit." 419 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:23,080 They said, "David, don't worry. He'll be on the plane." 420 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:29,200 Knight: The brand that he really wanted to sign with was Adidas. 421 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:33,080 He had worn Adidas all through college, except in the games, 422 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:35,160 'cause he had to wear Converse in the games. 423 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:38,360 The problem was, Adidas never asked him to come to Germany 424 00:19:38,360 --> 00:19:40,480 for a presentation, or anything. 425 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:42,840 Years later, when I went to Adidas, I asked them, 426 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:45,800 I said, "Why on earth didn't you sign Michael Jordan?" 427 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:47,440 They said they had no idea 428 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:49,360 who he was, or what they'd do with him. 429 00:19:49,360 --> 00:19:50,880 If he wanted shoes, they'd be more than happy 430 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:52,320 to give him shoes. 431 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:55,080 But they weren't gonna pay him any money. 432 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:56,360 We went to all the companies, 433 00:19:56,360 --> 00:19:58,720 and instead of making a proposal, 434 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:00,760 I basically said to them, 435 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:04,280 "We're going to let you meet with Michael, and explain, 436 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:07,200 if he picked you, what can you do for him?" 437 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:08,840 Which is a really different kind of a concept. 438 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:10,040 Instead of asking what the player can do 439 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:11,800 for the company, you know, 440 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:13,800 we ask what the company can do for the player. 441 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:15,000 And truthfully, most of the companies 442 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:16,720 weren't prepared for that. 443 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:19,400 Converse, at the time, they were the official shoe of the NBA. 444 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:21,560 And their pitch to him was "We're going to treat you 445 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:23,040 just like everybody else." 446 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:24,440 Which they thought was a great pitch 447 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:26,240 because they had so many great players. 448 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:28,760 I was looking for something more creative, and unique. 449 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:30,640 So, in terms of Nike, 450 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:33,160 Sonny said to me, like, "What's important to you?" 451 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:36,080 And I said to him, "I know this is gonna sound really crazy, 452 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:38,200 but I want you to treat him like he's a tennis player. 453 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:40,720 I want him to have his own line of shoes and clothes. 454 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:41,960 I want to have commercials. 455 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:43,600 I want you to market him like he's playing 456 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:45,120 an individual sport." 457 00:20:45,120 --> 00:20:48,320 People thought that wouldn't work in team sports. 458 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:50,640 And we set out to prove that it would work. 459 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:55,320 Prior to Jordan, the endorsement business -- 460 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:57,600 particularly the basketball endorsement business -- 461 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:01,760 was pretty much team-orientated. 462 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:06,640 Converse had Julius Erving, Magic Johnson, Larry Bird. 463 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:08,800 All three of those guys wore the same shoe. 464 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:10,680 They wore Converse shoes. 465 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:17,480 Basketball shoes in America were sort of a closed business. 466 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:20,240 Converse, which had the Chuck Taylors, 467 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:23,040 the canvas and rubber shoes, 468 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:25,640 they'd had the business for so long. 469 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:28,280 There were no great endorsement deals. 470 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:32,800 Converse simply gave the Celtics and other NBA teams -- 471 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:35,760 a lot of NBA teams had to pay for their shoes, 472 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:37,600 but they simply gave them, 473 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:39,520 so that they would have shoes to wear, 474 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:42,160 and fans would see them, and magazines 475 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:43,840 would take their photographs. 476 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:45,920 And it was a nice little business, 477 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:49,040 but it wasn't a big-money business. 478 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:52,680 Stern: Converse had all of our players, 479 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:55,920 but they were not too keen on marketing. 480 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:58,400 And then, when Michael came along, 481 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:00,480 Nike understood that this was 482 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:02,880 an opportunity to use his connection 483 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:05,880 to the league, and his prowess as a basketball player, 484 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:09,600 as a stepping stone to grow the industry. 485 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:13,280 ♪♪ 486 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:17,040 There are obviously NBA players who had shoe contracts. 487 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:19,880 But that was all relatively restrained. 488 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:23,120 You know, a lot of them were for $9,000 or $10,000. 489 00:22:23,120 --> 00:22:26,800 Kareem was probably getting in the neighborhood 490 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:29,640 of $100,000 a year. 491 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:34,000 Hill: It wasn't seen as something where athletes were necessarily 492 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:37,120 shaping culture the way shoes shape culture now. 493 00:22:37,120 --> 00:22:39,720 And so, this idea that there was gonna be 494 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:43,200 this whole marketplace of athletes pedaling shoes 495 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:45,280 was just kind of unheard of, 496 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:49,360 and to some degree, considered to be ridiculous. 497 00:22:49,360 --> 00:22:52,800 Pre-Jordan it was, you know, "Here's our shoe. 498 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:55,880 You're endorsing it. We'll pay you to do that." 499 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:57,400 And that's basically where it ends. 500 00:22:57,400 --> 00:22:58,920 They would be in commercials. 501 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:01,600 They would maybe get a shoe in their color. 502 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,080 But it was nothing special. 503 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:05,640 It's reinforced for me. 504 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:06,960 And me. 505 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:09,760 Hey, maybe it was made for both of us. 506 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:11,400 Must be magic. 507 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:13,640 Now that's who this shoe was made for. 508 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:15,720 [ All laugh ] 509 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:20,960 Announcer: The Converse Star Tech, with the unique uni-saddle design. 510 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:24,080 You had Larry Bird and Magic Johnson with Converse. 511 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:25,520 You had Dr. J with Converse. 512 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:28,800 I mean, Dr. J was the first superstar. 513 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:30,280 ♪ Hey, hey, Dr. J ♪ 514 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:32,640 He was the first elevation of the sneaker game, 515 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:34,480 wearing Dr. J Converses. 516 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:37,240 ♪ Are you a member of the human race ♪ 517 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:41,520 ♪ Hey, Dr. J, are you wearing magic shoes? ♪ 518 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:44,480 Announcer: He's wearing Converse, the shoes of the stars. 519 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:47,160 Kent: But if you really want to look at it, 520 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:51,080 the guy who changed the game was Clyde, 521 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:54,560 because he was the first coolest basketball player. 522 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:56,920 He was the guy you wanted to be like. 523 00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,000 He was the guy you wanted to dress like. 524 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:04,120 ♪♪ 525 00:24:04,120 --> 00:24:06,600 When you saw him you saw the mink coats, 526 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:08,040 you saw the Rolls-Royces, 527 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:09,800 he looked like the hustlers. 528 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:11,600 He looked like a superhero. 529 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:16,080 And then, he has his name in gold on the side of a sneaker. 530 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:20,600 So, everything else after that was a byproduct of him 531 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:23,720 being the coolest first. 532 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:27,080 But it's like the player had to be cool, as well. 533 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:29,560 Like, was Magic Johnson cool? 534 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:30,760 Not really. 535 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:32,200 Was Larry Bird cool? 536 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:34,200 Was Abdul-Jabbar cool? 537 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:35,520 Not really. 538 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:38,920 But then, Michael Jordan is semi-cool. 539 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:46,960 But then, his sneaker becomes a character, and then that's cool. 540 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:48,400 So, he reluctantly agreed. 541 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:49,760 Knight: He comes to Oregon. 542 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:51,560 And then, we started showing him the things 543 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:53,040 that we wanted to do with him, 544 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,920 including making a red, white, and black shoe. 545 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:58,400 And he said, "So, you want me to play in this?" 546 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:00,800 We said "Yeah. That's the idea. You play in the game, 547 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,640 because they see you playing the game, they buy the shoe." 548 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:08,880 We played a tape using the Pointer Sisters song "Jump." 549 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:10,720 with a highlight reel of him, 550 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:12,560 And at the end, we showed the wings 551 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:14,640 and the Jordan trademark. 552 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:17,800 But mostly, what we had was, we had a program. 553 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:19,320 We were gonna make Michael Jordan 554 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:21,120 a marketing superstar. 555 00:25:21,120 --> 00:25:27,400 ♪♪ 556 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:30,600 He was impressed with the boldness of the idea. 557 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:32,680 And we went to dinner that night with his parents. 558 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:35,720 And at the end of the dinner, his mother leaned over and said, 559 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:39,960 "Don't worry about it Michael will be wearing Nike." 560 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,680 So, the deal was a five-year deal. 561 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:44,760 Michael got a certain amount of guaranteed money 562 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:46,480 over a five-year period. 563 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:49,160 On top of that, he got a very large annuity 564 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:50,480 that would start paying him 565 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:51,960 after he retired from basketball -- 566 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:53,680 over $1 million a year. 567 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,040 And he obviously got royalties on the shoe. 568 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:57,880 And it was a deal that, actually, 569 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:00,120 I believe, that we proposed to Michael, 570 00:26:00,120 --> 00:26:01,760 that they didn't propose to us. 571 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,800 We proposed to Michael to sort of take the price down, 572 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,320 how much cash we'd actually have to put out. 573 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:09,760 Falk: I asked Nike what their expectations were. 574 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,280 And their expectations were, in the five-year deal, 575 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:15,720 by the end of year three, they'd hope to sell $3 million 576 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:17,600 worth of shoes heading into year four. 577 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:19,000 That was their expectation. 578 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,520 And they sold $126 million the first year. 579 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:25,120 Where I think we made a mistake is, we didn't put a cap on it, 580 00:26:25,120 --> 00:26:28,840 and we didn't say "Okay, after so many thousands of pairs, 581 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:31,160 the royalty rate goes down." 582 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:35,280 The thinking was, "Look, if he sold that many shoes, great." 583 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:37,040 As it turned out, that's what happened. 584 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:39,440 They sold so many shoes they didn't know what to do with it, 585 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:42,760 and Michael made a lot of money. 586 00:26:46,360 --> 00:26:49,800 Falk: By the end of year three, they'd hope to sell $3 million 587 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:51,640 worth of shoes heading into year four. 588 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:53,040 That was their expectation. 589 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:55,600 And they sold $126 million the first year. 590 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:59,200 Where I think we made a mistake is, we didn't put a cap on it, 591 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:02,960 and we didn't say "Okay, after so many thousands of pairs, 592 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,200 the royalty rate goes down." 593 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:09,280 The thinking was, "Look, if he sold that many shoes, great." 594 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:11,040 As it turned out, that's what happened. 595 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,360 They sold so many shoes they didn't know what to do with it, 596 00:27:13,360 --> 00:27:15,440 and Michael made a lot of money. 597 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,000 Falk: Now, if I would have known that, I probably would have asked them 598 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:22,000 to pay him a dollar a year and 50/50 on the royalties. 599 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:23,240 Now, had we done that, 600 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:24,840 maybe they wouldn't have pushed the line. 601 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,960 The most important aspect of his deal 602 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,240 wasn't the money or the royalties. 603 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,120 I forced them to spend $1 million. 604 00:27:32,120 --> 00:27:33,800 in the first six months to promote him. 605 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,280 I think we agreed that we would pay him 606 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,200 close to $1 million, 607 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:41,480 and that we would put close to $1 million into marketing. 608 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:43,480 And then, the fun stuff started. 609 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:49,680 And the fun stuff was, "How are we gonna market this guy?" 610 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,880 We all talked about how he used to soar in the air. 611 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:56,600 David Falk, to his credit, said "I've got a name for this thing. 612 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:58,240 it should be called 'Air Jordan.'" 613 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:00,120 Rob immediately wants to use the name. 614 00:28:00,120 --> 00:28:02,120 I said, "Well, why don't we think about it for a little while. 615 00:28:02,120 --> 00:28:04,160 There's an airline that's called "Air Jordan.'" 616 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:07,720 But no, Rob was going with Air Jordan. 617 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:09,840 Michael always tells me it's the first 618 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:13,000 and the last great idea I ever had. 619 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:16,680 After that, I went and saw him in Washington D.C. 620 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:19,640 In that conversation, he told me that he didn't want to wear 621 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:21,320 red, white, and black. 622 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,400 And when I asked him, I said, "Well, what's the reason?" 623 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,320 He said, "They're the devil's colors." 624 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:27,400 I said, "Well, they're the Chicago Bull's colors, 625 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:29,960 so you better go talk to the guy that owns the Chicago Bulls. 626 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:31,480 'cause I can't change them." 627 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:33,360 I mean he wanted to wear Carolina blue, 628 00:28:33,360 --> 00:28:35,640 which was the color of his school. 629 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:37,000 And I said, "We'll make you a pair, 630 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:38,360 you can wear them on Saturdays. 631 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:40,160 But you're in red, white, and black. 632 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:43,640 You know, that's just the way it's got to be." 633 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:46,560 Jackson: The ideology behind doing this came a long time 634 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:48,480 before the shoe was first launched. 635 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:49,960 You know, these conversations with Jordan 636 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,200 getting his own shoe came his rookie year. 637 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,160 But they waited before they actually launched it. 638 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,800 And the lead up to that was beautiful, 639 00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:58,800 because what they did is put the shoes on Jordan, 640 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:00,640 so you could see him playing. 641 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:02,280 Bengtson: You know, the build-up of that shoe before it released 642 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:04,920 at retail was five or six months long, 643 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:08,040 which was fairly unheard of back then. 644 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,600 And I think the idea of a new shoe model 645 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:12,640 being such a big deal, 646 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,880 and being such a big deal to people other than athletes, 647 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,720 was something really different. 648 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:20,680 Knight: The first time he wore the shoes, 649 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:22,680 he wore them in New York 650 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,200 at an exhibition game -- a pre-season game. 651 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,000 They're out doing their warm-up drills, 652 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:30,640 and all of a sudden, there's a bunch of kids start gathering. 653 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:32,960 And they're all pointing at his shoes. 654 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,600 David Falk happens to be sitting in the arena, 655 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:37,560 and he wants to know what all this is about. 656 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:39,200 "What's going on here?" 657 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:42,120 And they tell him, "Oh, Jordan's got on these crazy shoes." 658 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,720 And sure enough, the shoes get banned. 659 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:48,440 At that time, David Stern, who was head of the NBA, 660 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:51,080 had a rule that only white footwear 661 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:52,720 was allowed on the court. 662 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:55,280 Stern saw these shoes, and said, "That's against the rules. 663 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:57,040 You can't do it." 664 00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,360 Bengtson: The original Air Jordan was just a project 665 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:03,320 that was kind of unprecedented in the way Nike worked. 666 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:06,800 You know, they signed Jordan that summer, and wanted to get 667 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:10,360 a signature shoe on his foot in that first season, 668 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:12,280 which really compressed the amount of time 669 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:15,000 they had to get this shoe done. 670 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,120 So, in the meantime, he had to wear something else. 671 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:20,360 and what he ended up wearing was the Nike Air Ship. 672 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:21,720 And that was the shoe 673 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,200 that originally drew the ire of the NBA, 674 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,080 and basically banning the shoe. 675 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:30,760 Stern: We told Michael and Nike that, whatever shoe he was wearing 676 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,560 didn't conform, so would they please change it. 677 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:35,680 And Rob said, "So, what are you gonna do, fine him?" 678 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:37,200 He goes "Yes. I'm gonna fine him." 679 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:38,960 And Rob said, "Go ahead and fine him. 680 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:40,440 Nike will cover him." 681 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,320 It became the shoe that was banned by the NBA, 682 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:44,960 with the implication that it was 683 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,640 because it made Michael such a good basketball player. 684 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:51,160 Announcer: On September 15th, Nike created a revolutionary 685 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:53,680 new basketball shoe. 686 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:59,720 On October 18th, the NBA threw them out of the game. 687 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:03,640 Fortunately, the NBA can't stop you from wearing them. 688 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,440 ♪♪ 689 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:10,200 Lazenby: Nike officials reacted with glee to this, 690 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:13,880 because that meant that, if something is outlawed, 691 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,000 it becomes very precious. 692 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:19,360 Williams: Typically, when you brand a product, you start with 693 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,800 what we call "functional benefits of consumption." 694 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,560 You want to give people a sense that, again, 695 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:26,280 this somehow solves a problem 696 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,800 or it somehow makes you better at something you're doing. 697 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:30,960 And that was the first thing we did with the Jordan brand, 698 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:34,120 was "Hey, we gave you the sense that you would be 699 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:37,000 a better basketball player if you were to wear these shoes, 700 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:38,680 and that the NBA band these shoes 701 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:40,480 because it gave Michael Jordan 702 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:42,240 some type of competitive advantage." 703 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:43,440 And then, you look on television, 704 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:45,240 and you see this man doing things 705 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:48,600 that you'd never seen an athlete do, ever, you believe in it. 706 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:50,960 They gave Nike the best publicity ever 707 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:52,600 when they banned the Air Jordan, 708 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,120 which only made them hotter in the streets. 709 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:57,640 Knight: There's no question of the fact that the shoes were banned 710 00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:58,880 helped the sale of the shoes. 711 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:00,400 Kids like that stuff. 712 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:02,600 Particularly the inner city kid, he loves that stuff. 713 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,320 "I'm wearing something I'm not supposed to be wearing. 714 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:06,520 Perfect." 715 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:07,960 [ Laughs ] 716 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:09,160 Couldn't be better. 717 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:10,480 And, all of a sudden, overnight, 718 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:12,360 it was just like everybody wanted them. 719 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:14,760 They were being sold on the street corners 720 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:16,600 for hundreds of dollars. 721 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:18,680 Knight The first time we showed Footlocker, for example -- 722 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,000 which is the biggest retailer in America -- 723 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:24,000 they only wanted 5,000 pairs for all their stores. 724 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:28,000 Within a week, they called, and wanted 150,000 pairs. 725 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:29,600 -Nike! -Adidas! 726 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:32,040 Competition is the name of the game at Footlocker, 727 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,480 with the biggest selection of big names ever assembled. 728 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:36,680 So, whether your game is serious or social, 729 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:39,000 we'll find the right shoe for you. 730 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:42,120 You know, you don't tell people not to do something, 731 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:44,720 because they want to do it -- particularly that age group. 732 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:46,480 And that just shows you the personality 733 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:48,000 of the kid who's buying the shoe. 734 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:51,000 He wanted to break the rules. 735 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,320 Kent: The shoes were anti-establishment, 736 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:54,600 you know what I'm saying? 737 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:56,920 So, the hood is anti-establishment. 738 00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:00,880 It's almost like they were made to be for each other. 739 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:02,800 Knight: The ban helped, no question about it. 740 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,560 I mean Rob Strasser wrote David a thank-you note. 741 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:07,480 And as Rob was leaving his office, 742 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,400 he said, "I have one thing to ask that you do." 743 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,200 And Rob turns around, and says, "What?" 744 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,080 "Can you send me a pair of the banned shoes? 745 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,320 My son wants them. He thinks I'm a jerk." 746 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:19,800 [ Laughs ] 747 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,160 Bengtson: The Air Jordan was something that kind of transcended 748 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:23,840 all these different borders 749 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:26,280 that hadn't really been transcended before. 750 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:29,160 The fact that it comes out after he plays in the All-Star game, 751 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,320 after he's in his first dunk contest, 752 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:34,360 by the time that shoe finally hit the market, 753 00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:36,400 they were just gone. 754 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:39,240 Knight: I think we sold over a million pairs of shoes in one year, 755 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:41,720 which is -- in those days was a lot. 756 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,400 It wasn't started slowly and built to a big fire. 757 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,440 It started as a giant fire. 758 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:50,120 I mean, it just was -- there was a big fire from day one. 759 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:51,920 Flight Attendant: Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. 760 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,400 Welcome to flight 23. 761 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:56,800 Please make sure your seat belts are securely fashioned, 762 00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,440 and extinguish all smoking materials. 763 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:08,720 Knight: Then, we had done it for the first year. 764 00:34:08,720 --> 00:34:10,920 Then everybody's going, "What are we gonna do now?" 765 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,160 It became so big that we were worried about it -- 766 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:16,360 just the air would just go out of it. 767 00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:18,400 Bengtson: You know, if the Air Jordan 1 was a shoe 768 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:20,400 that Nike had to get together in a hurry, 769 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:23,360 and really rush to get to market, 770 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:24,760 and get on Jordan's feet, 771 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,200 the Air Jordan 2 was kind of the opposite. 772 00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:30,800 The Air Jordan 2 came along, and it was like, 773 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:32,400 that shoe was pumping, you know? 774 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:34,200 It was fly. It was sleek. 775 00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:36,000 It was well-built. It was well-designed. 776 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:37,200 It was the first shoe that didn't have 777 00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:38,480 the Nike swoosh on it. 778 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:47,000 ♪♪ 779 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:48,480 That was a game-changer, 780 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:50,560 you know, in terms of, like, my community. 781 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:52,360 You know, for sneaker connoisseurs and ball players, 782 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:53,840 like, the Jordan 2 was, like, 783 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,200 "Oh, okay. They got it right now." 784 00:34:56,200 --> 00:35:00,040 Announcer: Air Jordan. It's all in the imagination. 785 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:03,560 ♪♪ 786 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,640 The Air Jordan 2, when it came out, it was a risk 787 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,200 that most sneaker companies back then didn't take, 788 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:10,800 or wouldn't take. 789 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,000 It was almost twice as expensive. 790 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:14,720 It was made in Italy. 791 00:35:14,720 --> 00:35:17,240 Bengtson: And you could almost look at the Air Jordan 2 -- 792 00:35:17,240 --> 00:35:19,720 even though it came out in 1986, a full decade 793 00:35:19,720 --> 00:35:22,840 before Jordan split off into its own brand -- 794 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,120 being sort of the first sign 795 00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:28,480 that Air Jordan was a thing in and of itself, 796 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:31,280 that didn't necessarily need that Nike swoosh. 797 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:42,440 Knight: Well, here's the first poster we did with Michael Jordan, 798 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:48,600 which basically was to announce that he is arriving in Chicago. 799 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:51,000 This is my favorite shoe of his. 800 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,400 And this is the Chicago skyline, 801 00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:58,440 and he's obviously flying over the skyline into the city. 802 00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:01,000 This was one of the interesting things about Michael Jordan. 803 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:05,240 He gave me my own poster for Christmas. 804 00:36:05,240 --> 00:36:07,120 Maybe that's why he's a billionaire. 805 00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,480 Now, the brilliant thing about Nike 806 00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:21,360 is that they are a marketing company, 807 00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:22,680 first and foremost. 808 00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:24,360 Their relationship with Wieden+Kennedy, 809 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:27,720 and the ideas behind that is what makes them special. 810 00:36:27,720 --> 00:36:30,280 And Wieden+Kennedy really hadn't stepped in 811 00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:33,880 as a marketing group behind pushing Jordan. 812 00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:36,760 But starting with 3, they did. 813 00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:38,520 A lot of the things that made Jordan special 814 00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:42,040 is that the grassroots aspects of how they approached things. 815 00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:44,040 So, Wieden+Kennedy tapped into that. 816 00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:45,640 What's happening at the grassroots level, 817 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:47,720 as far as, like, you know, 818 00:36:47,720 --> 00:36:51,320 African American society is concerned? 819 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:53,200 Who's that new cat? Who has that fresh breath? 820 00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:55,800 What's that new visual? What's that new voice? 821 00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:57,000 And their new voice was in a character 822 00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:58,560 that Spike Lee had created. 823 00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:00,000 You know, when he did with his first feature film, 824 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:01,280 "She's Gotta Have It." 825 00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:03,520 You know, is there anyway to tap into him" 826 00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:04,960 "She's Gotta Have It" was a love story 827 00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,000 not only between Mars Blackmon and Nola Darling, 828 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,760 but between Mars Blackmon and his Air Jordans. 829 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:11,280 And he sort of couldn't decide between the two. 830 00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:12,800 He kind of wanted to have both. 831 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:14,320 You know, I think a lot of kids in the eighties 832 00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:15,800 could identify with that. 833 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,080 He knew that before a lot of other people, 834 00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:19,600 you know, which I think is why 835 00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:22,600 Spike was able to become as successful as he did. 836 00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:26,000 And -- you know, and I think Nike and Wieden+Kennedy, 837 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,960 and I think it was Jim Riswold at Wieden, who recognized that. 838 00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:30,200 Riswold: It was 1987, 839 00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:32,800 and Bill Davenport and I were down in L.A. 840 00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:36,240 finishing our first spot with Michael Jordan. 841 00:37:36,240 --> 00:37:39,400 And back then, all spots with Nike 842 00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:42,200 seemed to be "show the athlete sweat, 843 00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:44,200 and put a product shot at the end, 844 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,080 and call it a day." 845 00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:48,800 Announcer: Today at Nike, we know even more. 846 00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,080 We developed one of the most sophisticated sport 847 00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:54,000 research labs in the world to let us see, 848 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,800 in detail, the peculiarities of style, 849 00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,200 the dynamics of foot strike. 850 00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:01,960 And at Nike, we're putting that knowledge to work, 851 00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:05,440 making shoes that actually help athletes to run faster. 852 00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:09,080 Riswold: So, we were down there, doing that commercial. 853 00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:10,680 And we went to a movie. 854 00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:13,840 And there was a trailer at the beginning of the move 855 00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:17,560 with a guy we'd never heard of called "Spike Lee," 856 00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:19,760 selling tube socks on the sidewalk. 857 00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:21,440 Three for $5. 858 00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:22,680 Hi. I'm Spike Lee. 859 00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:24,800 When I'm not directing, I do this. 860 00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:27,440 It pays the rent, puts food on the table, 861 00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:29,400 butter on my whole wheat bread. 862 00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:31,040 Anyway, I have this new comedy coming out. 863 00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,720 It's a very funny film -- "She's Gotta Have It." 864 00:38:33,720 --> 00:38:35,440 Riswold: That was a great trailer. 865 00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:38,760 So, you get back to Portland, and that movie is playing. 866 00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:43,240 And it's about three men pursuing the same woman. 867 00:38:43,240 --> 00:38:46,760 And one of those men is the Mars Blackmon character. 868 00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:49,280 And he finally gets the time to sleep with 869 00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:52,520 the woman of his dreams, Nola Darling. 870 00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:56,400 And while doing so, he won't take off his Air Jordans. 871 00:38:56,400 --> 00:39:00,120 Blackmon: Stop. Stop. No, stop. Stop. 872 00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:03,840 Knight: He's boffing this girl in bed, and he's wearing Air Jordans. 873 00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:07,520 And I went "Great," you know, "nice promo." 874 00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:10,000 And Bill and I look at each other like 875 00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:11,960 "Are you thinking what I'm thinking?" 876 00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:15,080 They said, "We ought to do a TV commercial with him." 877 00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:16,600 We called Spike up. 878 00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:19,240 And that was back when he answered his own phone. 879 00:39:19,240 --> 00:39:22,840 "Would you be interested in playing your role, 880 00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:24,520 and directing Michael Jordan 881 00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:27,960 in a series of Mars Blackmon and Michael Jordan commercials?" 882 00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:30,920 And I think we could hear him pee his pants 883 00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:32,240 on the other end of the line. 884 00:39:32,240 --> 00:39:33,720 "Do I get to direct him, too?" 885 00:39:33,720 --> 00:39:35,160 -Nola? -Yes, Mars. 886 00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:36,840 -Nola? -Yes, Mars. 887 00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:40,200 Is it because he do a vicious high-flying 360 slam dunk? 888 00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:42,400 -No, Mars. -Because he's taller than me? 889 00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:44,040 No, Mars. 890 00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:45,800 Because he's loved, adored, and worshiped by millions? 891 00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:48,480 -No, Mars. -Nola, what is it? 892 00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:53,080 It's because he's got the new Air Jordans, Mars. 893 00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:55,200 Oh sweat, oh sweat, oh sweat. 894 00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:56,840 Nike, you got to hook me up. 895 00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,200 Spike Lee and the Mars and Mike campaign 896 00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:00,640 of the 1980s, 897 00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:02,400 playing the character Mars Blackmon, of course, 898 00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:05,480 from "She's Gotta Have It," played an integral part of 899 00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:08,720 making Michael Jordan believable 900 00:40:08,720 --> 00:40:11,360 while still having that sense of integrity. 72426

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