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He doesn't like to admit he's hurting.
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I want to see him succeed.
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I want to see him pull through this
and get back on his feet.
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What are the obstacles
to that happening?
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He's had emotional outbursts,
impulse control problems,
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depression, threats of violence.
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- God, Karla, come on.
- The facts are the facts.
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There was one significant
physical altercation.
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Do you want to tell her about that?
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That's okay.
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What we need to know is, what now?
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Is he a danger to himself?
Can he be left to care for himself.
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- Or does he need additional assistance?
- And it's four sessions.
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Court-mandated four sessions, one of
several conditions of Colin's release.
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If he fails to meet any
of the requirements of his probation,
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your sign-off included,
it would be revoked.
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But we're not going to let that happen,
right?
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Here is the proof of vaccination
paperwork that you requested.
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I'll be checking in each week
to see how everything's going.
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But Colin is incentivized to apply
himself, so fingers crossed, yeah?
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Every day it's stacks of cases.
Completely crazy.
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All these extra people,
but they don't hire any more of us.
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That's life, I guess.
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Call me when you're done, and we'll see
each other tomorrow morning.
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Bye.
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in TREATMENT
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COLIN
Week One
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I'm happy to be here, happy to be out.
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Thank God for COVID, right?
Not really, of course.
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And you know,
I didn't kill anybody or anything.
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Anyway.
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Basically, I just want to get back
on the right track.
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Figure my life out, cause I...
You'll excuse my language?
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No. Go ahead.
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I fucked it up.
So I'm grateful for this opportunity.
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And just so we're clear, never violent,
never anything like that.
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I'm not a danger to anyone. I don't
know what Karla was talking about.
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It's heat-of-the-moment,
I'll eff-ing kill you, but never...
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It's one thing if you're shouting
that at a vulnerable person,
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it's another if you're shouting it
at a prison guard
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standing behind three inches
of plexiglass, being a sadistic fuck.
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Sorry.
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I'm like the most pacifist,
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not just in my personal life
but as applies to the world.
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And the physical altercation?
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Again, that makes it sound like
I was scrapping in the yard. No.
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No.
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I got my fucking ass kicked by a psycho
for no other reason than I looked to him
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like a person
whose ass it might be amusing to kick.
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I'm Mister Peace on Earth.
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I was raised by hippies, full stop,
a commune, the whole bit.
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And that outlook that openness,
trust, compassion?
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That's steered me throughout my life.
Bit of a wanderer.
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Eventually, I found my way into
the tech-world. The rest is history.
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Great. That's a great place to start.
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And how's the probation process
going so far?
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Good. Yeah.
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And therapy, just so I'm all about it.
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I've done some form of therapy
most of my life, seriously.
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So there's no resistance
or apprehension on my part.
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I find it bizarre that there's
any taboo around it.
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It's so not my upbringing. It's fu...
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Can I just...
I want to use some words in here,
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but I don't want to offend you, but I
also don't want to interrupt myself
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every time I'm compelled to say fuck.
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Please, whatever language
you feel comfortable with,
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I'm not easily offended.
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That's fucking fantastic.
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What was I saying.
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Yeah, it's fucking crazy that people
are still so averse to therapy,
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to self-exploration,
to uncovering truth.
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I'm glad you like therapy.
It should make my job easier.
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I love it. I need it...
after what I've been through.
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So let's roll up our sleeves,
get into it.
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- Okay. Sounds fun.
- It should be. Why not, right?
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The thing is, I'm not patting myself
on the back when I say this,
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it's just a true thing about me,
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I'm open. I always have been.
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I imagine some patients it probably
takes them weeks to warm up.
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I don't know. I feel like most people
walk in here ready to talk.
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Come here for a reason.
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Yeah, but ready to talk and able
to talk... two different things.
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That's true, and you seem very
comfortable communicating.
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Thank you. Anything, I talk too much.
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It's probably gotten me into some
of this trouble, frankly.
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- Is that how you see it?
- What?
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The situation you found yourself in,
prison,
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that it was related to your loose
communication style?
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Yeah. I don't know. Sure, a little bit.
It's an interesting question.
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- Certain ways, I guess.
- Which ways?
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I'm sorry. You know what?
I just... I keep taking in your house.
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This was built
in the late 60s, right?
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- Good eye.
- I'm kind of an architecture buff.
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What does your husband do?
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I'm not married.
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Yeah, driving up here, there were
a bunch of these great little houses.
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This place is very nice.
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- So it's not all pro bono, then.
- Oh, no. You're my first, actually.
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No shit? That's great. Cause I've never
gotten free therapy before.
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We can figure this out together.
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So, wait, you're,
like, a shit-hot therapist then.
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I do all right, but you know what
we're not here to talk about...
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I know. Of course.
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That's the thing though.
See, I want to talk about you.
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And why do you think that is?
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Not exclusively, but I do want us
to get to know each other, like really.
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Beyond the quarter-inch file
of glaring omissions
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and mischaracterization.
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Why don't you start
by filling in the gaps.
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Sure. I was born in Santa Cruz.
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Parents, like I said, they were hippies.
The real deal.
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Weren't playing dress-up,
they were living the life.
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Moved to Santa Monica
when I was ten for my parents' business.
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Health food, where better, right?
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Spent high school bumming around
L.A., Venice,
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skipping class, get high on the beach.
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It was a different city back then.
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There was a porn theater
on Second Street, did you know that?
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Downtown Santa Monica.
Now it's an adorable something or other.
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How does that kind of change affect you?
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It doesn't. Not really.
Things change.
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As a guy who stepped out
of the world for four years
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I can say with some authority,
things change.
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It's all good.
I'm just painting a picture.
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I wasn't running around going
to Sugarfish or Pinkberry
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when I was in high school.
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It was down and dirty,
syringes-in-the-sand type shit.
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Picture painted.
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This area? Fuck! It's great
that it's finally turning around.
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It was treacherous
back in the 90s.
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This area's always been nice.
I grew up here.
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No, you're just surrounded.
You got Inglewood just down the hill.
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I guess Black people aren't as scary
when you are also a Black person.
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- No, no, no. I meant, Black, White...
- I'm messing with you, Colin.
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My dad designed
some of the houses in the area.
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- Wild. So your dad is an architect?
- Yes.
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He was, he passed.
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Sorry. How nice that he left
something behind, though,
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that, you know, made his mark.
Especially his...
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- It's nice.
- Yes.
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And now you know a little about me,
and I know a little about you.
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So, now you want to talk about what,
my dramatic emotional breakdown?
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It makes sense. Juicy.
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Something to sink your teeth into,
psychologically speaking.
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But I'm just afraid
you're going to be disappointed.
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- Why would I be disappointed?
- Just isn't that much there.
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It sounds like a significant event.
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It was a bad day. My life ended.
I lost everything.
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I couldn't fucking take it.
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I reached a breaking point.
Guess what? I broke.
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See? I told you, it's not juicy.
It's dull, dry, and simple.
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The file says
you were put in segregation.
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That's pro forma prison shit.
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Those people, they're not the most
astute observers of the human condition.
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It's the D.M.V. with Billy-clubs.
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God, I'm not a crazy person.
I'm happy, I'm sunny, I...
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Forgive me, I light up a room.
I fucking do.
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So, if you want to get into my grief,
my pain, it's just not there.
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I have problems, Lord knows.
I obliterated my entire existence.
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No aspect of my life was left un-fucked.
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But depression, anything like that,
that's just... it's just a dead end.
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Okay.
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No aspect of my life was left un-fucked?
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You have a way with words.
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Yeah. Crochet that on a pillow,
you'd make some good money.
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- Let's talk about that then.
- What, our pillow business?
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The way you upended your life.
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You've read the file.
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Come on!
You said it was full of omissions.
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Correct the record.
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I overstated some things
to secure investments.
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Wire fraud, that was the headline.
Five years, told I'd serve one.
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They kept on tacking on time
for behavior bullshit.
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I ended up serving four.
What can I say?
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A whole justice system, it's a...
I don't have to tell you. It's a joke.
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No, worse. It's a crime.
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Look, so you know,
George Floyd, Black Lives...
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I would've been the first person out on
those fucking streets.
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I get so enraged at the injustice,
it absolutely breaks my heart.
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Sorry, tangent.
I'm very passionate about it.
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- The justice system?
- Right. Yeah.
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Yeah, particularly where it pertains
to corporate crime, or whatever.
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The business world,
it plays by a different set of rules
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that these people don't understand,
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because if they did understand it,
they'd be a part of it.
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Instead of sweating through shitty suits
in filthy courtrooms all day long.
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Jesus, I made a mistake,
a careless clerical error.
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You misplace a decimal point and
suddenly you're a criminal mastermind.
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So, let's put this guy with a name
we've heard of in prison,
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and trumpet our impressive track record
of holding big business accountable.
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Meanwhile, exactly zero people's lives
are improved by my arrest.
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I'm not Al Capone.
And every single one of these assholes,
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they all think they're Eliot Ness,
crime busters.
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Only there's barely a crime,
and no one's hiding anything,
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but they're all these fucking...
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I swear to God, the names of the
Federal agents who were on my case,
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sounds like a list of
South Boston dive bars.
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My life was great, and then here comes
Mickey O'Shaughnessy,
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stupid but driven to take a big steaming
dump on my existence.
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It's fucking insane.
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The point is, they don't understand
the world, especially the tech-world.
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I guarantee you none of these assholes
could fucking network a printer,
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much less wrap their heads around
the shit I was working on.
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- So, you were innocent?
- No.
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No, not of what they were saying,
but what is a crime, and what isn't?
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Fraud is a crime.
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Can we talk about that instinct of
yours, to minimize, downplay, dimmish?
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You did it with the prison time, the
breakdown, the crimes themselves.
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You are trying to evade me.
I don't know if you realize that.
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Maybe it's a behavior you learned
after being accused of a crime.
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Maybe it's been around longer than that.
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Where'd you go?
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Sorry. No, you're right.
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I was just thinking you're good.
I hadn't anticipated that.
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Usually court-appointed,
not exactly the mark of high-quality.
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Is it deliberate, your evasiveness?
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No, I like to talk.
I like to learn about people.
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You mentioned earlier
your communication style
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might've contributed to some
of your problems.
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I like to give people good news.
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Sometimes what you think is going
to happen doesn't.
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- Which is a crime, apparently.
- That sounds like another dismissal.
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Jesus. It's a defensive stance,
I suppose.
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Maybe after getting thrown
into a box for four years,
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having everyone
in my life abandon me.
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Maybe I've developed some trust issues.
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Or maybe you're just not asking
the right questions.
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I don't think there are right questions,
or wrong questions per se,
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or right answers for that matter.
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What? So it's just a random exchange
of words with little consequence.
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It's a process, not a puzzle.
I'm not trying to pick a lock.
232
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It's difficult to quantify a process.
What's a process worth?
233
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It's free for you.
234
00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:44,920
Is it? Cause the government
seized all my assets.
235
00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:48,040
This is all I got in return,
four sessions with you.
236
00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:52,600
So, I'm giving you the only things of
value I have left: my time, my energy.
237
00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:55,120
And I would like for this time
not to be wasted.
238
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Then, by all means, ask away.
239
00:15:59,960 --> 00:16:01,120
What did you have for lunch today?
240
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Why the fuck do you want to know
what I had for lunch today?
241
00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:05,000
I don't think the questions
are the problem.
242
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Good one.
243
00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:08,000
Why does it bother you
to open up to me?
244
00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:10,440
- I'm not bothered.
- But you are reluctant to share.
245
00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:13,040
Cause I've been fucking pummeled
every time I've opened my mouth
246
00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:16,120
for the past four years.
Today being no exception.
247
00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:19,080
I mean, I say, "I'm piece of shit",
and I just hear back,
248
00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:21,880
"No, no, you're a colossal
piece of shit."
249
00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:24,200
I try to defend myself, it's even worse.
250
00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:25,840
I tell you the truth,
it's not enough truth.
251
00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:28,120
I... Or it's not the truth
you're looking for.
252
00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:30,520
See, I don't know what you're
looking for. I'm not a mind reader.
253
00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:33,680
I'm not looking for any one answer.
I'm looking for honesty.
254
00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:35,240
Unless it's something
that you don't want to hear.
255
00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:38,960
No, I want you to feel safe in this
room. I'm not judging you.
256
00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:42,040
I am going to be honest about
what I'm seeing and hearing.
257
00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:47,600
And what I am hearing right now is a lot
of avoidance of difficult subjects.
258
00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:51,760
See, you want me to feel safe,
but I'm not safe.
259
00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:56,560
I can't be myself. Because try
as you might, despite your best,
260
00:16:57,360 --> 00:17:01,560
very most professional of intentions,
you are judging me.
261
00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:06,200
If I were to refer to a woman as a cunt,
that be all right?
262
00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:08,200
I'd prefer if you didn't.
263
00:17:08,360 --> 00:17:11,800
When I'm with my buddies,
I say the word, cunt, they know me.
264
00:17:12,360 --> 00:17:15,480
They hear it as I intend it.
They know I'm not a misogynist.
265
00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:17,360
The furthest thing from it.
266
00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:21,000
Simply an economical way of expressing
that the person to whom I am referring
267
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is not at all a good person. They are
a vicious person, a cruel person.
268
00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:30,520
They're a cunt. Prosecutor was a cunt.
The judge was a cunt.
269
00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:33,960
But see, I can't say that in here
because you hear it a different way.
270
00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:35,600
So, I have to police myself.
Yes or no?
271
00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:38,600
There's nothing wrong with being
considerate of folks around you.
272
00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:40,960
I'm just using a crude example
to explain a broader point.
273
00:17:41,120 --> 00:17:42,760
Would it be helpful
if I explained to you
274
00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:46,720
why that particular word
feels very violent to me?
275
00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:48,400
No. God, if... I get it.
276
00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:51,480
It sounds like you feel constrained.
Not just by this arrangement.
277
00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:53,400
I am! The whole fucking world's
constrained!
278
00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:55,680
Imprisonment is literal,
physical constraint.
279
00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:57,840
- That frustration doesn't feel related?
- Yes, sure.
280
00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:02,920
- No. No. No, no, no. Really?
- Yes! All right? Yes!
281
00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:05,560
Jesus.
282
00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:15,440
Yes.
283
00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:31,160
What's it been like for you
since you'd gotten out?
284
00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:38,560
- Uneventful.
- Where are you staying?
285
00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:42,680
Crashing at a buddy's place. Venice.
He's got a back house thing.
286
00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:48,120
I've seen some people, most really
aren't receptive to reconnecting.
287
00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:50,520
And how are things going
with your friend?
288
00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:56,120
Good. Fine. He's very laid back.
He's an actor, you'd know him.
289
00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:59,800
He's got this new wife,
who I'd never met,
290
00:18:59,960 --> 00:19:04,360
they got together while I was still...
I'm not sure she likes me.
291
00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:11,160
She's cute, though. Good God,
these women, this whole area.
292
00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:13,680
Yeah, after four years in prison,
293
00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:18,240
walking through Venice is fucking
torture. I feel like a pervert.
294
00:19:18,360 --> 00:19:19,800
What do you mean?
295
00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:22,400
Like I'm gonna pull my cock out
296
00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:24,360
and start jerking off
in the middle of brunch.
297
00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:27,960
- You wouldn't do that.
- No. No, I wouldn't fucking do that.
298
00:19:28,120 --> 00:19:30,800
Those fancy brunch places
frown upon that sort of thing.
299
00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:32,080
Yeah.
300
00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:38,120
How does it feel when some folks
aren't receptive to reconnecting?
301
00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:41,720
Sad.
302
00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:45,320
What about making new friends?
303
00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:50,760
There's support groups, online
communities for former prisoners.
304
00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:54,280
Human connection is important.
305
00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:59,280
What about getting back out there,
meeting someone?
306
00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:03,600
I did pretty well in my younger days.
307
00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:08,240
I got a lot of material stored up to
keep me company on those lonely nights.
308
00:20:11,360 --> 00:20:14,320
I fucked a lot of therapists, too.
You know?
309
00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:18,440
It's a weird thing. My whole life,
I'd meet a girl, we hit it off.
310
00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:20,640
What do you do?
I'm a therapist.
311
00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:26,360
Over and over and over.
They were always the wildest, too.
312
00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:31,960
What about you?
Have you ever fucked a patient?
313
00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:33,880
- What are you doing?
- Sharing.
314
00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:39,680
I could try to navigate this exchange
in some professional way,
315
00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:43,120
but I think it's best
we put our cards on the table.
316
00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:45,120
Wait, you asking me out?
317
00:20:45,360 --> 00:20:47,400
I think you're trying
to push my buttons.
318
00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:50,960
And did I? Did I push your buttons?
Cause I'm told I have a certain knack.
319
00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:53,040
This isn't a game.
This is my job,
320
00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:56,840
and I take it seriously, and I would
like for you to take it seriously, too.
321
00:20:57,000 --> 00:21:01,520
Yes. That's right, the work. It's very
important. You're a doctor after all.
322
00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:03,680
If there was an insult in there,
I think I missed it.
323
00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:06,240
I once had a therapist,
a licensed therapist,
324
00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:08,240
same certificates
you've got around here somewhere.
325
00:21:08,360 --> 00:21:12,160
She told me to whisper my resentments
into the hollow of a tree
326
00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:14,920
and then fill the tree with mud.
327
00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:17,280
- Did it work?
- These are your colleagues.
328
00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:20,560
This is the work you need to safeguard
against the scourge of irreverence.
329
00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:22,720
Why can't you bear
to be sincere with me?
330
00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:27,480
- Sincerely? Fuck you!
- There we go! Now that's something.
331
00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:29,880
It's hostility,
but at least it's genuine.
332
00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:31,400
You did it, Doc. You broke through.
333
00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:33,600
No, you sat here with
a Probation Officer
334
00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:37,200
who said you lacked impulse control,
you were emotionally unstable,
335
00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:41,680
self-destructive, and you understand
your literal freedom is on the line.
336
00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:46,200
Still, you couldn't make it one hour
without telling me to go fuck myself,
337
00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:49,120
that my job was a joke, intimating at
some sexual potential between us,
338
00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:52,160
and you were worried
that I would be disappointed?
339
00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:57,040
Colin, there is plenty for me
to work with here.
340
00:21:57,200 --> 00:22:00,200
The only question
is whether you are up to it.
341
00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:02,880
The sooner we have that answer,
the better.
342
00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:08,920
The court is expecting a determination
after four sessions.
343
00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:10,680
But if you are going to fuck off
all the time,
344
00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:15,760
I am happy to say right now
that you are beyond help.
345
00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:18,840
Maybe I just don't like you.
You know, what?
346
00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:21,320
What, you're going to send me
back to prison because I don't like you?
347
00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:22,840
You're not a judge. You're not a warden.
348
00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:24,040
Let me guess, I'm a cunt.
349
00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:28,640
You're a wounded bird in Baldwin Hills,
sheltered in a house your father built.
350
00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:31,200
I will not sign a paper
that I do not believe.
351
00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:36,320
I will not tell a court that you are
well when you are not, and Colin...
352
00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:52,400
I'm sorry. I'm sorry,
that's not what I...
353
00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:56,760
I'm sorry I said those things.
354
00:22:57,600 --> 00:22:59,000
I didn't mean...
355
00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:03,640
I've been under a lot of stress.
It's a very weird time.
356
00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:06,880
I'm... It's nothing personal.
357
00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:12,880
I suppose you'd say I'm minimizing,
or dismissing, and maybe I am.
358
00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:14,720
I don't know. I just...
359
00:23:19,120 --> 00:23:21,880
I really didn't mean for it
to go this way.
360
00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:27,160
Okay.
361
00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:35,120
Okay.
362
00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:41,120
That's our time.
363
00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:45,720
See you next week, yeah?
364
00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:49,480
Great.
365
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:57,000
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