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Tina! Tina! Tina!
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- Well, hi, everybody!
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Come on, give it to
me- I said hi, everybody!
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Let me hear you say "ow"!
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Ow!
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♪ ♪
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- ♪ We're all waiting in the storm ♪
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♪ Ask me how I feel ♪
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♪ When things are going wrong ♪
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♪ Ask me how I feel ♪
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♪ The night is awful cold ♪
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♪ Ask me how I feel ♪
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♪ You're much too loose to hold ♪
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♪ Ask me how I feel ♪
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♪ You don't treat me tender ♪
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♪ No matter what I do ♪
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♪ I'm the great pretender ♪
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♪ Oh, oh, oh, oh ♪
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♪ Waiting in the storm ♪
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♪ Ask me how I feel ♪
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♪ Everything's going wrong ♪
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♪ You gotta ask me how I feel ♪
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- ♪ The night is awful cold ♪
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- ♪ Ask me how I feel ♪
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♪ You know you're
much too loose to hold ♪
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♪ Come on, and ask me how I feel ♪
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♪ ♪
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- I wondered sometimes if
anyone has approached you
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to do the story of your life,
which is indeed fantastic.
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Yes.
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But I don't want to play the part.
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I've done it-
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- Who else could play
the part of Tina Turner?
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We'll find someone-
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I just really don't
want to play the part,
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you know what I mean?
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No, you don't know what I mean,
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'cause you'd have to know me to know.
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It was just so unlike me, my life.
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But I don't want anyone
to know about it, I mean...
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- You mean it'd be too painful or too...
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- Ah, it wasn't... wasn't a good life.
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It was in some areas,
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but the goodness did not balance the bad.
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So it's like not wanting to be reminded.
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You don't like to pull out
old clothes, you know?
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It's like, old memories,
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you want to just leave that
in the past and done with
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and all the things you
don't really want to say,
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but there comes a time
when you do have to say it.
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♪ ♪
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- This is interview one, take one.
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- In 1981, you did this interview
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with "People" magazine,
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where for the first time, really,
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you spoke openly
about your past with Ike.
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- Yeah.
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- And I'm curious if
you can remember at all
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any of the thoughts you had
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around the decision
to be public about that.
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- About my past?
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- About your past, but also, I guess,
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about the abuse specifically.
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- Yeah, that was quite nerve-racking.
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Actually, I called my
psychic, and I said,
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"What's gonna happen?"
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'Cause I was really apprehensive
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about giving the story
away because it was telling.
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It was really telling.
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And she said, "No, Tina."
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"It's going to do just the opposite.
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It's gonna break everything wide open."
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- In the early '80s,
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being in "People" magazine
was the equivalent of going viral.
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We had 30 million readers-
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And if somebody wanted
to reach a lot of people,
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there was really no bigger place to go
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than "People" magazine-
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I was the music editor
of "People" magazine
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for many years,
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and this is the December 7, 1981 issue,
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when Tina decided to tell her story.
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And it was the first time
she told the story in public
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to a journalist-
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So this is the story.
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I reported it and wrote
it for "People" magazine.
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This is the picture of Tina.
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"Tina Turner remains
rock's original Jagger,
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"a primitive force who,
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"glittering in sequins
and a gold-chain miniskirt,
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"typically assaults the
stage in mid-scream
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"with both legs pumping, hips grinding,
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"long mane whirling,
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"and her mouth wrapped
around some of the sexiest sounds
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"ever set to music-
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"More than five years have passed
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"since Tina's bitter
break with Ike Turner,
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"her longtime husband, sideman,
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"and music collaborator on such classics
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"as 'Proud Mary' and 'Come Together. '
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"Only now is Tina able to discuss
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"what she claims were
the harrowing events
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leading up to their split-"
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- I lived 16 years with a man that I knew
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there was no way I
could ever be happy with,
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but I felt that I had to stay there.
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- Mm-hmm-
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- You have to believe me
now when I tell you something.
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My ex-husband was a
physically violent man.
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I went through basic torture-
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- Torture? You would call it torture?
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- To me, it was-
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A lot of people don't know,
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and your magazine
will probably be the first
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to make it publicly known-
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I was living a life of death-
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I didn't exist...
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But I survived it-
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And when I walked out, I walked.
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And I didn't look back-
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♪ ♪
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- People choose to tell their story
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for lots of different reasons-
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I think she told me so much
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because she wanted to just tell it
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and then forget it-
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It didn't quite work out that way,
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because now, that story
is a great mark of her life.
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♪ ♪
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- Ladies and gentlemen,
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you've seen them
live from coast to coast.
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Now you're about to see them
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all together for the very first time
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on national television.
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"Hollywood a Go Go" presents
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the fantastic Ike & Tina Turner Revue!
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♪ ♪
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- When I was a teenager back in the '60s,
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I knew of their record that they had out,
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but I had never seen them.
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And then they came on
TV, and I saw her dancing,
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and that's all I could look at.
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I was just so amazed at this woman.
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♪ ♪
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- I remember standing there watching her
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"and saying," Whatever that is,
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I want some of that-"
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I got the spirit-
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It's no different than being in a church
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where you are moved and stirred
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to the point where you
can feel it inside yourself.
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- ♪ Do you like good music? ♪
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♪ Sweet soul music ♪
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♪ Long as it's swinging ♪
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♪ Yeah ♪
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♪ Yeah ♪
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♪ Get out here on the floor, y'all ♪
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♪ Dancing to a go-go ♪
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♪ And dancing to the music ♪
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♪ Yeah ♪
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♪ Yeah ♪
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♪ Spotlight is on me, y'all ♪
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♪ And I'm having a ball, y'all ♪
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- Back then, you had
the whole Motown revue.
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You had Diana Ross,
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Mary Wells-
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- The Temptations in these Italian suits,
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and we're putting forth
an image of sophistication.
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And they were all...
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That kind of stuff, and
Tina was more, "Yeah!"
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That kind of stuff-
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- It's wild-
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It's your sensuality, your sexuality,
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and it's in your face.
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- ♪ Dancing to a go-go
and dancing to the music ♪
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- Did you ever study dancing?
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- No.
- No?
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And what about music?
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You know, singing?
- No, no music at all.
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Everything is just natural for me.
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I'm a performer, and I sing,
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and Ike does the managing and producing.
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- It was Ike's band-
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But he knew that in order to be
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a number one, he needed Tina,
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'cause Tina was the shining star.
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♪ ♪
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- ♪ Oh ♪
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♪ Box top ♪
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- ♪ Let's rock ♪
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♪ Oh, let's rock ♪
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- ♪ Bet bop ♪
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- ♪ Oh, box top ♪
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- ♪ He ♪
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♪ Gave ♪
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♪ Me a mother ♪
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♪ And he gave me ♪
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♪ A father, too ♪
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♪ He gave ♪
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♪ Yes, gave me everything ♪
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♪ And then he gave ♪
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♪ He gave me you ♪
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♪ He gave ♪
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♪ He gave ♪
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♪ Yes, gave me everything ♪
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- He was like her hero-
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Like a big brother-
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And he seen her like a little sister.
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That relationship
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was very beautiful.
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It really was.
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- ♪... Me strength to love with ♪
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I wasn't thinking of,
"I'll go to St. Louis,
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and I'll start singing,
and I'll be a star."
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I was young, naive,
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just a country girl,
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and everything just opened up to me.
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♪ And most of all ♪
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♪ He gave me you ♪
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- Tina, you started your musical career
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in a church choir in your hometown.
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Do you consider your musical roots
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to be Black gospel?
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- Oh, yes. Certainly.
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Black gospel, blues.
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B.B. King's music was
our radio during that time.
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- Mm-hmm. What kind
of songs were you singing
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as a member of the church choir?
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Well, we call them...
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Well, it was a Baptist church,
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and they were just spiritual songs.
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Songs about, you know, love
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and giving and...
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And doing all of the right things
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that make life good-
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Those were good times, you know,
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to remember all of the church singing
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and the choir and all-
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When you're in the South,
there's nothing happening,
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except the church,
the piano, the preacher.
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During that time, I didn't know
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about anywhere else-
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So seeing Lucille Ball
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and Loretta Young
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and all the beautiful
ladies of Hollywood,
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they were a role model
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for a performer-
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But I didn't think that I
would actually achieve that,
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because first, I wasn't pretty,
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and I didn't have the clothes,
I didn't have the means.
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I remember the first
"Vogue" magazine that I saw,
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and I remember my first French poster...
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Champs-Elysées,
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the Eiffel Tower,
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and the very, very French woman.
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"I was like," Ah, that's what I want.
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The world- That's where I want to go."
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♪ ♪
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- I got the impression from her,
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she always felt a little bit out of time
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or a little bit out of place-
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I didn't think she ever felt
like people understood her
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or really liked her for who she was,
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and the talent she had,
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she finally learned that she had,
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can win you a lot of people
who recognize who you are
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and will become like your real family...
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or try to.
269
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- Ike, first of all, if we can
kind of go back a long way
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to when you were a young man.
271
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A lot of people credit you
272
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with doing the first
ever rock and roll record,
273
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"Rocket 88."
274
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- Yeah, that was in 1951.
275
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- Yeah. How did that thing happen?
276
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- Well, I live in
Clarksdale, Mississippi,
277
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which is actually 61 miles from Memphis,
278
00:16:09,302 --> 00:16:11,387
and B.B. King, my mother,
279
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she practically raised him, you know,
280
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and one night, we was coming from
281
00:16:14,807 --> 00:16:16,184
Chambers, Mississippi, playing,
282
00:16:16,267 --> 00:16:18,352
and B-B-, I asked him, I said,
"Man, can we play a song?"
283
00:16:18,436 --> 00:16:19,604
And he said, "Yeah-"
284
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So he let my band play one number.
285
00:16:21,397 --> 00:16:23,983
So, anyway, he said, "Man,
you guys should be recording."
286
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And, man, we didn't have any material,
287
00:16:25,443 --> 00:16:27,445
so on the way up, we
decided to write this song,
288
00:16:27,528 --> 00:16:30,364
and that's when I wrote the
song "Rocket 88," you know.
289
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- ♪ You women have heard of jalopies ♪
290
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♪ You've heard the noise they make ♪
291
00:16:33,451 --> 00:16:36,496
♪ But let me introduce my new Rocket 88 ♪
292
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♪ Yes, it's great ♪
293
00:16:38,331 --> 00:16:39,832
♪ Just won't wait ♪
294
00:16:39,916 --> 00:16:42,460
♪ Everybody likes my Rocket 88 ♪
295
00:16:42,543 --> 00:16:44,462
♪ Baby, we'll ride in style ♪
296
00:16:44,545 --> 00:16:46,881
♪ Moving all along ♪
297
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- Ike Turner is a very important part
298
00:16:50,968 --> 00:16:52,553
of R&B history-
299
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Everybody relied on him
'cause he really knew music
300
00:16:55,014 --> 00:16:56,682
and he scored a real hit record
301
00:16:56,766 --> 00:16:59,227
with a song in 1951 called "Rocket 88."
302
00:16:59,644 --> 00:17:01,854
People say it's the
first rock and roll record.
303
00:17:01,938 --> 00:17:03,814
And when it comes
out, Chess has credited it
304
00:17:03,898 --> 00:17:06,526
to Jackie Brenston & His Delta Cats.
305
00:17:06,609 --> 00:17:08,402
Ike Turner did that song, you know?
306
00:17:08,486 --> 00:17:09,904
He made everything about it happen,
307
00:17:09,987 --> 00:17:11,864
and it's credited to one
of his saxophone players.
308
00:17:11,948 --> 00:17:14,242
Imagine how he feels about this.
309
00:17:14,367 --> 00:17:16,410
And I think that's
the story of his career.
310
00:17:16,494 --> 00:17:18,412
I think he became paranoid about that.
311
00:17:18,496 --> 00:17:20,831
He said, "People were
always trying to rip me off."
312
00:17:20,915 --> 00:17:23,251
- He's always obsessed on that.
313
00:17:23,417 --> 00:17:24,460
"Everybody leaves me-
314
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"I make 'em, you know, popular
315
00:17:26,879 --> 00:17:29,298
"and get a hit record
and everything on them,
316
00:17:29,382 --> 00:17:30,633
and they all leave me."
317
00:17:33,761 --> 00:17:36,931
- Ike had a problem of
writing songs for people,
318
00:17:37,014 --> 00:17:38,849
and they would leave,
319
00:17:38,933 --> 00:17:41,269
and I promised him
that I wouldn't leave him.
320
00:17:43,020 --> 00:17:45,022
In those days, a promise is a promise.
321
00:17:58,995 --> 00:18:03,457
- ♪ Oh ♪
322
00:18:07,878 --> 00:18:11,382
♪ There's something on my mind ♪
323
00:18:12,258 --> 00:18:15,636
♪ Won't somebody please ♪
324
00:18:16,220 --> 00:18:20,057
♪ Please tell me what's wrong? ♪
325
00:18:21,058 --> 00:18:22,810
- ♪ You're just a fool ♪
326
00:18:22,893 --> 00:18:25,021
♪ You know you're in love ♪
- ♪ What's to say? ♪
327
00:18:25,104 --> 00:18:26,731
- ♪ You've got to face
it to live in this world ♪
328
00:18:26,814 --> 00:18:28,482
- ♪ Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey ♪
329
00:18:28,566 --> 00:18:30,067
- ♪ You take the good
along with the bad ♪
330
00:18:30,151 --> 00:18:32,069
- ♪ Yeah, hey, hey ♪
331
00:18:32,153 --> 00:18:34,696
- ♪ Sometimes you're happy,
and sometimes you're sad ♪
332
00:18:34,780 --> 00:18:36,699
- ♪ One more time ♪
- ♪ You know you love him ♪
333
00:18:36,782 --> 00:18:38,492
♪ You can't understand ♪
334
00:18:38,576 --> 00:18:41,370
♪ Why he treats you like he
do when he's such a good man ♪
335
00:18:41,454 --> 00:18:42,622
- ♪ Listen... ♪
336
00:18:42,705 --> 00:18:43,914
I finished school,
337
00:18:43,998 --> 00:18:45,541
and I went in the recording studio,
338
00:18:45,625 --> 00:18:46,959
and I did a demo,
339
00:18:47,043 --> 00:18:48,961
and that's when the hit record came.
340
00:18:49,754 --> 00:18:51,047
♪ Oh, now ♪
341
00:18:51,130 --> 00:18:52,632
♪ I must be a fool ♪
342
00:18:53,174 --> 00:18:55,551
♪ 'Cause I'll do anything
he wants me to do ♪
343
00:18:55,635 --> 00:18:56,844
♪ Now tell me, how come ♪
344
00:18:56,927 --> 00:18:59,096
- ♪ You're just a fool,
you know you're in love ♪
345
00:18:59,180 --> 00:19:00,556
- ♪ Now one more time ♪
346
00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:02,266
- ♪ You've got to face
it to live in this world ♪
347
00:19:02,350 --> 00:19:04,518
- ♪ Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey ♪
348
00:19:04,602 --> 00:19:05,895
Ike came in, and he said,
349
00:19:05,978 --> 00:19:08,230
"You know, the people in
New York are very excited."
350
00:19:08,314 --> 00:19:10,566
We got a hit record- He
was very excited, you know.
351
00:19:10,650 --> 00:19:13,100
And then there was...
Contracts started coming in.
352
00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:19,075
I was very ignorant to show business.
353
00:19:19,283 --> 00:19:21,494
I didn't have any idea what it was about.
354
00:19:21,702 --> 00:19:24,205
♪ ♪
355
00:19:24,288 --> 00:19:26,123
- She really was young-
356
00:19:27,667 --> 00:19:30,252
She never had no ambition
357
00:19:30,336 --> 00:19:32,338
to be some kind of superstar,
358
00:19:32,421 --> 00:19:35,925
but when she sang, she just had it.
359
00:19:36,967 --> 00:19:39,512
And Ike exploited it-
360
00:19:40,012 --> 00:19:42,723
He had to make sure
he's gonna get his this time,
361
00:19:42,807 --> 00:19:45,226
so he'd make sure that his name is on it.
362
00:19:45,351 --> 00:19:47,353
- And that's when he put
the whole show together,
363
00:19:47,436 --> 00:19:48,813
the Ike & Tina Turner Revue
364
00:19:48,896 --> 00:19:50,898
and gave her the name Tina Turner.
365
00:20:02,326 --> 00:20:03,744
"Queen of the Jungle,"
366
00:20:03,828 --> 00:20:05,705
it was a TV series-
367
00:20:05,871 --> 00:20:08,499
Tina and Sheena, I guess
it just sounded close to him,
368
00:20:08,582 --> 00:20:11,460
and it sounded good, Ike & Tina Revue,
369
00:20:11,544 --> 00:20:13,337
as a whole entity.
370
00:20:13,671 --> 00:20:15,756
So he changed it-Didn't even ask her.
371
00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:17,675
She didn't know anything about it.
372
00:20:18,634 --> 00:20:23,055
♪ ♪
373
00:20:25,391 --> 00:20:27,768
- Tina was the gold mine-He knew that.
374
00:20:29,812 --> 00:20:32,398
He created this Frankenstein thing,
375
00:20:32,481 --> 00:20:34,358
and he had to control it-
376
00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:38,779
So he had to change that
thing from being my little sister...
377
00:20:38,863 --> 00:20:41,240
"No, no, you got to be my wife now."
378
00:20:41,323 --> 00:20:42,491
Fwoom.
379
00:20:42,658 --> 00:20:47,788
♪ ♪
380
00:22:32,977 --> 00:22:35,396
- You'd never know from
one minute to the next.
381
00:22:35,479 --> 00:22:36,647
Ike could be having a good time,
382
00:22:36,730 --> 00:22:38,440
and everybody was having a good time,
383
00:22:38,524 --> 00:22:40,192
and it could just flip in a second.
384
00:22:40,276 --> 00:22:42,236
And I think with women,
385
00:22:42,319 --> 00:22:44,869
I think, you know, he figured
he had the upper hand.
386
00:22:45,364 --> 00:22:47,366
And especially, like,
with Tina, you know,
387
00:22:47,449 --> 00:22:48,617
that was, like...
388
00:22:49,785 --> 00:22:52,538
I think, him instilling in her,
389
00:22:52,788 --> 00:22:54,665
"You better be good, or, you know,
390
00:22:54,748 --> 00:22:56,542
I'm gonna beat the shit out of you."
391
00:22:56,750 --> 00:22:59,879
And did on many
occasions, you know, I mean,
392
00:22:59,962 --> 00:23:01,881
and for no reason a lot of times.
393
00:23:01,964 --> 00:23:04,008
It was just...
394
00:23:04,633 --> 00:23:05,926
I really don't know.
395
00:23:06,010 --> 00:23:08,137
I don't think he knows a lot of the time.
396
00:23:08,220 --> 00:23:12,099
♪ ♪
397
00:23:12,516 --> 00:23:14,685
- I felt obligated to stay there,
398
00:23:14,768 --> 00:23:16,228
and I was afraid-
399
00:23:16,478 --> 00:23:18,314
And I stayed-That is just how it was.
400
00:23:18,397 --> 00:23:20,941
I felt very loyal to Ike, and
I didn't want to hurt him.
401
00:23:21,025 --> 00:23:22,860
I mean, sometimes,
like, after he beat me up,
402
00:23:22,943 --> 00:23:24,153
I'd end up feeling sorry for him.
403
00:23:24,236 --> 00:23:25,487
And, "Why am I feeling sorry?"
404
00:23:25,571 --> 00:23:27,114
I'm sitting here all bruised and torn,
405
00:23:27,197 --> 00:23:28,782
and all of a sudden,
I'm feeling sorry for him.
406
00:23:28,866 --> 00:23:30,566
You know, little things like that.
407
00:23:31,452 --> 00:23:33,370
I was 23 years old or
something, you know.
408
00:23:33,454 --> 00:23:34,955
I mean, early 20s-
409
00:23:35,039 --> 00:23:36,665
I was just all... how do you call it
410
00:23:36,749 --> 00:23:38,626
when someone brainwashes you, I guess?
411
00:23:38,709 --> 00:23:40,628
- Brainwashed- - Maybe I was brainwashed.
412
00:23:40,711 --> 00:23:43,047
Yeah-I was afraid of him-
413
00:23:43,130 --> 00:23:46,300
And I cared what happened to him,
414
00:23:46,383 --> 00:23:48,844
and I knew that if I left,
there was no one to sing.
415
00:23:48,928 --> 00:23:52,306
So I was caught up in guilt and fear.
416
00:23:52,389 --> 00:23:54,350
Yeah, those are the two worst qualities,
417
00:23:54,433 --> 00:23:56,733
I think, for a young
girl to be caught up into.
418
00:23:56,894 --> 00:24:01,231
♪ ♪
419
00:24:03,734 --> 00:24:06,904
- And now let's go with
Ike and Tina Turner!
420
00:24:10,282 --> 00:24:14,495
♪ ♪
421
00:24:17,456 --> 00:24:19,333
- ♪ And listen while I talk to you ♪
422
00:24:20,167 --> 00:24:21,961
♪ I tell you what I'm gonna do ♪
423
00:24:22,753 --> 00:24:24,853
♪ There's a new dance
that's going around ♪
424
00:24:25,089 --> 00:24:27,439
♪ I want to tell you what
they're putting down ♪
425
00:24:27,883 --> 00:24:30,010
♪ Just move your body all around ♪
426
00:24:30,177 --> 00:24:31,178
♪ Shake ♪
427
00:24:31,261 --> 00:24:33,055
♪ Aw, baby... ♪
428
00:24:33,138 --> 00:24:34,473
- In those early days,
429
00:24:34,556 --> 00:24:36,350
you'd play three shows a night.
430
00:24:36,475 --> 00:24:39,103
Two shows this place,
two shows that place,
431
00:24:39,186 --> 00:24:41,480
and two shows at the after-hours place.
432
00:24:41,563 --> 00:24:43,232
It was hard work.
433
00:24:43,983 --> 00:24:47,987
- I can remember working
as many as four shows a night,
434
00:24:48,070 --> 00:24:50,864
and every night and every show...
435
00:24:50,948 --> 00:24:53,534
was packed, was packed.
436
00:24:53,659 --> 00:24:54,994
- Right now I'm gonna tell you
437
00:24:55,077 --> 00:24:56,677
a little something about my man.
438
00:24:59,957 --> 00:25:00,916
♪ Ha ♪
439
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:02,292
♪ My man...- ♪
440
00:25:03,961 --> 00:25:06,213
- He rehearsed constantly-
441
00:25:06,296 --> 00:25:08,841
Even sometimes we'd
be driving to the next show,
442
00:25:08,924 --> 00:25:10,259
he'd be playing the guitar in the back
443
00:25:10,342 --> 00:25:11,552
and having Tina sing-
444
00:25:11,635 --> 00:25:13,053
I mean, it was 24-7-
445
00:25:13,846 --> 00:25:15,264
- The show has to be perfect-
446
00:25:15,347 --> 00:25:17,141
Every single part of
it has to be perfect.
447
00:25:17,224 --> 00:25:19,518
He was one of those guys
who would turn around onstage
448
00:25:19,601 --> 00:25:21,562
and point at somebody, and they know
449
00:25:21,645 --> 00:25:24,395
they're getting a $10 fine
'cause they just blew a note.
450
00:25:24,982 --> 00:25:26,817
- ♪ He's a one-woman man ♪
451
00:25:26,900 --> 00:25:28,152
♪ And my man...- ♪
452
00:25:28,235 --> 00:25:30,029
- She didn't have the glam team,
453
00:25:30,112 --> 00:25:31,655
someone doing the hair and the makeup
454
00:25:31,739 --> 00:25:33,365
and the stylist getting the wardrobe.
455
00:25:33,449 --> 00:25:35,909
They did it all themselves.
456
00:25:36,076 --> 00:25:37,703
- ♪ My man ♪
- ♪ Your man ♪
457
00:25:37,786 --> 00:25:39,079
♪ Your man, your man ♪
458
00:25:39,163 --> 00:25:41,415
- ♪ You know, he's really all right ♪
459
00:25:41,498 --> 00:25:43,042
- ♪ Your man, your man, your man ♪
460
00:25:43,125 --> 00:25:45,711
- ♪ Yeah, yeah, yeah, he treats me... ♪
461
00:25:45,794 --> 00:25:48,547
The only freedom I had was
462
00:25:48,630 --> 00:25:50,591
when the Ikettes and I
got the dancing ready
463
00:25:50,674 --> 00:25:52,676
and I got the dresses ready-
464
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:54,303
And we'd get everything,
465
00:25:54,386 --> 00:25:56,513
except we didn't even know
what song was coming up.
466
00:25:56,597 --> 00:25:58,223
He would... ♪ Da dum ♪
467
00:25:58,307 --> 00:26:00,392
Do it with the guitar, you know?
468
00:26:00,476 --> 00:26:03,145
♪ He ran home, and my man...- ♪
469
00:26:03,228 --> 00:26:06,231
It was awful in a way,
but it was a lesson.
470
00:26:06,315 --> 00:26:10,819
Now that I look back,
I see it as a training.
471
00:26:10,903 --> 00:26:15,407
You adjust to what is given,
472
00:26:15,574 --> 00:26:18,160
and that is what was given at the time.
473
00:26:21,205 --> 00:26:23,957
♪ ♪
474
00:26:24,041 --> 00:26:26,126
- He controlled the
music, and she had to...
475
00:26:26,210 --> 00:26:27,836
It was always his music, and it was...
476
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:29,213
Which is very same-y
477
00:26:29,296 --> 00:26:30,714
if you listen to it all the time.
478
00:26:30,798 --> 00:26:33,050
A lot of it is just brilliant.
I love those records.
479
00:26:33,133 --> 00:26:35,094
But it's of a type. It's one thing.
480
00:26:35,177 --> 00:26:36,637
It's Ike Turner's stuff.
481
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,181
And she... I think she had
broader tastes than that.
482
00:26:39,223 --> 00:26:40,849
She must've felt there
was more you could do
483
00:26:40,933 --> 00:26:42,434
with music than this.
484
00:26:42,518 --> 00:26:44,311
I think she probably had
a bigger dream than...
485
00:26:44,394 --> 00:26:46,146
Without knowing it, than he did.
486
00:26:46,230 --> 00:26:48,690
♪ ♪
487
00:26:48,816 --> 00:26:51,276
- People started to see
that there was more to Tina
488
00:26:51,360 --> 00:26:53,278
than what Ike had to offer her...
489
00:26:54,113 --> 00:26:55,072
especially after
490
00:26:55,155 --> 00:26:57,366
the "River Deep - Mountain High" album,
491
00:26:57,449 --> 00:26:59,451
you know, with Phil Spector.
492
00:26:59,535 --> 00:27:00,661
- Phil Spector was the greatest
493
00:27:00,744 --> 00:27:02,496
pop record producer of that period.
494
00:27:02,788 --> 00:27:04,957
He played the studio like
an instrument, you know,
495
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:06,458
and he found all these singers,
496
00:27:06,542 --> 00:27:08,585
and he made these wonderful records.
497
00:27:08,669 --> 00:27:09,920
And when Phil Spector wanted to make
498
00:27:10,003 --> 00:27:11,463
"River Deep - Mountain High,"
499
00:27:11,547 --> 00:27:13,590
Ike's presence was not necessary.
500
00:27:13,674 --> 00:27:15,724
Just bring Tina in
because she's the star.
501
00:27:17,344 --> 00:27:20,931
- Spector didn't want Ike
nowhere near the studio.
502
00:27:21,014 --> 00:27:22,724
So he paid Ike X amount of dollars
503
00:27:22,808 --> 00:27:26,353
to get him... taken care of, so to speak,
504
00:27:26,436 --> 00:27:28,897
so that he wouldn't interfere with Tina.
505
00:27:29,565 --> 00:27:31,692
And that was the first
time they gave Tina
506
00:27:32,568 --> 00:27:35,654
her chance to sing differently.
507
00:27:35,737 --> 00:27:38,031
- ♪ Bah, bah, bah-bah, bah ♪
508
00:27:38,115 --> 00:27:39,825
- I remember
509
00:27:39,908 --> 00:27:42,995
starting to sing with Phil
510
00:27:43,328 --> 00:27:46,999
that style of singing, but
which Ike had been singing...
511
00:27:47,082 --> 00:27:49,585
♪ When I was ♪
- One more time.
512
00:27:49,668 --> 00:27:50,878
- And he said, "No, no, no, no, no.
513
00:27:50,961 --> 00:27:52,462
Just sing the melody."
514
00:27:53,505 --> 00:27:54,840
And I liked that.
515
00:27:55,507 --> 00:27:58,260
That was a freedom that I didn't have...
516
00:27:58,802 --> 00:28:01,430
You know, like a bird
that gets out of a cage.
517
00:28:02,514 --> 00:28:05,726
I was excited about singing
a different type of song.
518
00:28:05,809 --> 00:28:09,021
I was excited about getting
out of the studio on my own.
519
00:28:09,104 --> 00:28:12,441
It was a freedom to
do something different.
520
00:28:15,485 --> 00:28:17,446
♪ ♪
521
00:28:17,529 --> 00:28:20,282
♪ When I was a little girl ♪
522
00:28:20,365 --> 00:28:22,367
♪ I had a rag doll ♪
523
00:28:23,285 --> 00:28:26,330
♪ Only doll I've ever owned ♪
524
00:28:26,622 --> 00:28:29,082
- ♪ Doo, doo, doo-doo ♪
525
00:28:29,166 --> 00:28:31,752
- ♪ Now I love you just the way ♪
526
00:28:31,835 --> 00:28:34,004
♪ I loved that rag doll ♪
527
00:28:34,963 --> 00:28:37,591
♪ But only now my love has grown ♪
528
00:28:39,218 --> 00:28:41,428
♪ And it gets stronger ♪
529
00:28:41,845 --> 00:28:44,097
♪ In every way ♪
530
00:28:44,681 --> 00:28:47,017
♪ And it gets deeper ♪
531
00:28:47,517 --> 00:28:49,686
♪ Let me say ♪
532
00:28:50,437 --> 00:28:52,731
♪ And it gets higher ♪
533
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:55,525
♪ Day by day ♪
534
00:28:56,443 --> 00:28:59,112
♪ And do I love you? ♪
535
00:28:59,279 --> 00:29:01,823
♪ My, oh, my ♪
536
00:29:02,241 --> 00:29:04,451
♪ Yeah, river deep ♪
537
00:29:04,743 --> 00:29:08,205
♪ Mountain high, yeah, yeah, yeah ♪
538
00:29:08,288 --> 00:29:10,332
♪ And if I lost you ♪
539
00:29:10,415 --> 00:29:12,793
♪ Would I cry? ♪
540
00:29:13,585 --> 00:29:16,380
♪ Oh, how I love you, baby ♪
541
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:20,801
♪ Baby, baby, baby ♪
542
00:29:20,884 --> 00:29:22,803
It was so big,
543
00:29:22,886 --> 00:29:25,305
and my voice sounded so different
544
00:29:25,389 --> 00:29:27,683
standing on top of all that music.
545
00:29:27,933 --> 00:29:29,643
♪ I love you, baby ♪
546
00:29:29,726 --> 00:29:33,021
♪ Like a flower loves the spring... ♪
547
00:29:33,105 --> 00:29:34,648
- People started to see
548
00:29:34,731 --> 00:29:36,733
Tina was capable of so much more.
549
00:29:36,817 --> 00:29:38,527
She had wings, man.
550
00:29:39,319 --> 00:29:40,946
- ♪ And I love you, baby ♪
551
00:29:41,029 --> 00:29:44,241
♪ Like a schoolboy loves his pet ♪
552
00:29:44,533 --> 00:29:47,077
- This is such an
overpowering orchestration.
553
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:48,328
It's so complex-
554
00:29:48,412 --> 00:29:50,497
This record, it just blows out walls.
555
00:29:50,580 --> 00:29:51,748
- ♪ Ah ♪
556
00:29:51,832 --> 00:29:53,667
- ♪ Baby ♪
557
00:29:54,626 --> 00:29:55,961
♪ Baby ♪
558
00:30:00,257 --> 00:30:01,800
♪ Oh, baby ♪
559
00:30:02,050 --> 00:30:03,051
♪ Yow! ♪
560
00:30:04,928 --> 00:30:07,389
♪ Oh ♪
561
00:30:07,472 --> 00:30:09,433
- It just died in the United States.
562
00:30:09,516 --> 00:30:10,809
Died. Nobody wanted to hear it.
563
00:30:10,892 --> 00:30:12,561
And you listen to this
record, and you think,
564
00:30:12,644 --> 00:30:14,771
"What's the matter with
this country," you know?
565
00:30:14,855 --> 00:30:16,356
"I'm so ashamed to be an American."
566
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,151
You know, it's like, what's wrong?
567
00:30:19,276 --> 00:30:23,405
So that was a big blow
to Spector's career,
568
00:30:23,488 --> 00:30:27,367
and, you know, maybe
Ike probably was thinking,
569
00:30:27,451 --> 00:30:28,952
you know, "Well, see?
570
00:30:29,036 --> 00:30:30,454
He's not so great."
571
00:30:30,537 --> 00:30:32,164
"You should stick with me."
572
00:30:32,539 --> 00:30:36,251
- Like any Black artist in
America that do any tune,
573
00:30:36,335 --> 00:30:38,879
it has to go, like, top
ten on the R&B charts
574
00:30:38,962 --> 00:30:41,006
before the top 40 stations will touch it.
575
00:30:41,089 --> 00:30:44,760
And "River Deep" was not
a Black record, you know,
576
00:30:44,843 --> 00:30:47,179
and so it wouldn't make the
top ten on the R&B charts,
577
00:30:47,262 --> 00:30:48,680
and so, therefore, the
top 40 radio stations
578
00:30:48,764 --> 00:30:50,182
wouldn't play it.
579
00:30:50,265 --> 00:30:52,684
Over in England, they
listen to the record,
580
00:30:52,768 --> 00:30:55,187
and if the record is a
R&B record, it's R&B.
581
00:30:55,270 --> 00:30:56,605
You know, if it's rhythm and blues,
582
00:30:56,688 --> 00:30:58,315
it's rhythm and blues,
and if it's pop, it's pop,
583
00:30:58,398 --> 00:30:59,691
you know, and so it got played over here.
584
00:30:59,775 --> 00:31:00,901
It never got played in America.
585
00:31:00,984 --> 00:31:02,152
The Black jockeys say it's too white.
586
00:31:02,235 --> 00:31:04,085
The white jockeys say it's too Black.
587
00:31:10,118 --> 00:31:11,370
- ♪ I was at this party ♪
588
00:31:11,453 --> 00:31:13,038
♪ That had the doors all closed ♪
589
00:31:13,121 --> 00:31:15,749
♪ ♪
590
00:31:15,832 --> 00:31:18,668
♪ All this funny smoke
kept going up my nose ♪
591
00:31:18,752 --> 00:31:21,380
♪ ♪
592
00:31:21,505 --> 00:31:24,383
♪ They had this joint that
they was passing around ♪
593
00:31:24,466 --> 00:31:26,968
♪ ♪
594
00:31:27,052 --> 00:31:30,138
♪ And when they got
to me, I turned it down ♪
595
00:31:30,222 --> 00:31:32,682
♪ ♪
596
00:31:32,766 --> 00:31:33,934
- You live in LA?
- Yes.
597
00:31:34,017 --> 00:31:35,769
- What sort of life do you have?
598
00:31:35,852 --> 00:31:38,355
- Well, my life is sort of
based around my four sons.
599
00:31:38,438 --> 00:31:39,731
I have a housekeeper
that takes care of them
600
00:31:39,815 --> 00:31:40,941
when I travel.
601
00:31:41,024 --> 00:31:42,651
Being a wife and being
Tina at the same time
602
00:31:42,734 --> 00:31:44,069
is almost like a split person-
603
00:31:44,152 --> 00:31:45,487
But I'm able to separate the two,
604
00:31:45,570 --> 00:31:47,656
so everything is fine...
The whole thing is sane.
605
00:31:47,739 --> 00:31:49,783
♪ ♪
606
00:31:49,866 --> 00:31:52,494
♪ But everybody got
tired of blowing that grass ♪
607
00:31:52,577 --> 00:31:55,622
♪ ♪
608
00:31:55,705 --> 00:31:57,040
♪ I told 'em at first...- ♪
609
00:31:57,124 --> 00:32:00,836
- Ike Jr. and Michael were Ike's kids
610
00:32:00,919 --> 00:32:04,172
by Lorraine, his previous wife.
611
00:32:04,589 --> 00:32:06,091
Tina had Craig
612
00:32:06,174 --> 00:32:08,260
when she was with the saxophone player,
613
00:32:08,343 --> 00:32:10,137
Raymond Hill,
614
00:32:10,220 --> 00:32:13,473
and then she had
Ronnie, you know, with Ike.
615
00:32:14,266 --> 00:32:16,351
They were, like, all together
by the time I met Tina.
616
00:32:16,435 --> 00:32:18,770
- ♪ Like laid ♪
617
00:32:18,854 --> 00:32:20,147
Michael, don't stand
underneath that door.
618
00:32:20,230 --> 00:32:22,274
Don't lean on that door like that.
619
00:32:23,650 --> 00:32:25,193
I made myself a family-
620
00:32:25,277 --> 00:32:28,613
I totally psyched myself
out, and I made a home,
621
00:32:28,697 --> 00:32:30,574
and I found some pleasure in that home
622
00:32:30,657 --> 00:32:32,033
every now and then-
623
00:32:32,159 --> 00:32:34,035
Birthdays with children and dinners,
624
00:32:34,119 --> 00:32:35,787
Thanksgiving dinners, periodically,
625
00:32:35,871 --> 00:32:37,956
but at least I had some sense of a life
626
00:32:38,039 --> 00:32:39,875
of what I had always wanted-
627
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,294
♪ I was just too stoned
to take that drive ♪
628
00:32:46,256 --> 00:32:48,049
♪ ♪
629
00:32:48,133 --> 00:32:49,468
- Where my trophy at?
630
00:32:49,551 --> 00:32:51,011
Give me my trophy.
631
00:32:51,219 --> 00:32:53,430
That's a water boy trophy.
- It's not.
632
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:55,223
- It's Mother's new trophy.
633
00:32:56,349 --> 00:32:58,810
- She was gone most of the time.
634
00:32:59,436 --> 00:33:01,021
Over a period of eight years,
635
00:33:01,104 --> 00:33:02,647
everything was basically the same.
636
00:33:02,731 --> 00:33:04,774
Eight months on the
road, four months back,
637
00:33:04,858 --> 00:33:07,152
eight months on the
road, four months back.
638
00:33:07,736 --> 00:33:09,488
She was very, very strict,
639
00:33:09,571 --> 00:33:11,239
particularly when she was home.
640
00:33:11,323 --> 00:33:12,616
We couldn't have company
641
00:33:12,699 --> 00:33:14,117
unless we finished our homework.
642
00:33:14,201 --> 00:33:15,994
We had to do our chores-
643
00:33:16,077 --> 00:33:17,704
We had to eat breakfast,
lunch, and dinner
644
00:33:17,787 --> 00:33:19,039
at the same time-
645
00:33:19,122 --> 00:33:22,459
She really took to raising us personally
646
00:33:22,542 --> 00:33:24,878
because, basically,
that was her happiness,
647
00:33:24,961 --> 00:33:26,046
to a certain extent-
648
00:33:53,823 --> 00:33:57,452
- Everybody was happy around my mother.
649
00:33:57,536 --> 00:33:59,120
And she was always sad-
650
00:33:59,204 --> 00:34:00,956
She never had friends-
651
00:34:01,039 --> 00:34:03,583
She never had anybody
she could really confide in.
652
00:34:03,667 --> 00:34:06,211
So, basically, her happiness was with us
653
00:34:06,294 --> 00:34:08,505
and her time alone in her room.
654
00:34:08,588 --> 00:34:09,965
And there was nothing she can do
655
00:34:10,048 --> 00:34:11,675
about her circumstances-
656
00:34:12,842 --> 00:34:15,095
He had to know where
she was at all the time.
657
00:34:15,178 --> 00:34:17,728
She was on allowance- She
didn't have her own money.
658
00:34:18,139 --> 00:34:20,267
My mother really had a non-existent life
659
00:34:20,350 --> 00:34:23,270
other than the studio and the house.
660
00:34:26,856 --> 00:34:29,568
- When I first interviewed her,
661
00:34:29,651 --> 00:34:31,570
one of the questions
she kept on asking was,
662
00:34:31,653 --> 00:34:33,363
"Why did I stay? Why did I stay?
663
00:34:33,446 --> 00:34:35,407
People want to know why I stayed."
664
00:34:35,490 --> 00:34:38,285
And for me, it was interesting
665
00:34:38,368 --> 00:34:42,455
to think about the violence
that happened before Ike,
666
00:34:42,539 --> 00:34:44,624
'cause I think a lot of people don't know
667
00:34:44,708 --> 00:34:48,420
that she grew up watching
violence in her own home.
668
00:36:32,023 --> 00:36:33,233
Right now...
669
00:36:36,194 --> 00:36:38,905
I think you might like to
hear something from us...
670
00:36:38,988 --> 00:36:41,783
- ♪ Left a good job ♪
- Nice and easy.
671
00:36:41,866 --> 00:36:44,661
♪ Down in the city ♪
672
00:36:44,744 --> 00:36:46,204
♪ Working for the man ♪
673
00:36:46,287 --> 00:36:48,164
- Well, now...
- ♪ Every night and day ♪
674
00:36:48,248 --> 00:36:50,458
- I'd like to do that for you,
675
00:36:50,834 --> 00:36:53,545
but there's just one thing, you see.
676
00:36:53,628 --> 00:36:56,297
We never, ever do nothing
677
00:36:57,340 --> 00:36:59,008
nice and easy-
678
00:37:01,970 --> 00:37:05,974
We always do it nice and rough.
679
00:37:06,057 --> 00:37:08,143
♪ ♪
680
00:37:08,268 --> 00:37:10,668
Now, we're gonna take
the beginning of this song,
681
00:37:10,770 --> 00:37:12,063
and we're gonna do it...
682
00:37:12,147 --> 00:37:14,774
- ♪ And we rolling ♪
- Easy.
683
00:37:14,858 --> 00:37:16,568
♪ Rolling ♪
684
00:37:17,444 --> 00:37:20,238
♪ Rolling on the river ♪
685
00:37:20,321 --> 00:37:21,990
- ♪ My, my ♪
- Listen.
686
00:37:23,032 --> 00:37:25,118
♪ I left a good job ♪
687
00:37:25,201 --> 00:37:27,401
♪ In the city...- ♪
- ♪ Down in the city... ♪
688
00:37:49,684 --> 00:37:53,563
- ♪ Proud Mary keep on burning ♪
689
00:37:54,189 --> 00:37:56,357
♪ And we're rolling...- ♪
690
00:37:56,524 --> 00:37:59,068
I was truly a friend to Ike-
691
00:37:59,694 --> 00:38:01,488
I had promised that I would help him.
692
00:38:01,571 --> 00:38:03,656
♪ Rolling on the river ♪
693
00:38:03,740 --> 00:38:05,533
So I was still trying to help him
694
00:38:05,617 --> 00:38:07,118
to get a hit record-
695
00:38:07,619 --> 00:38:11,372
♪ ...river ♪
696
00:38:11,456 --> 00:38:12,582
- Two, three, four!
697
00:38:15,835 --> 00:38:19,464
♪ ♪
698
00:38:22,634 --> 00:38:25,303
- ♪ Now, I left a good job in the city ♪
699
00:38:25,637 --> 00:38:28,056
♪ Working for the man
every night and day ♪
700
00:38:28,556 --> 00:38:31,017
♪ And I never lost one
minute of sleeping ♪
701
00:38:31,142 --> 00:38:33,520
♪ Worried 'bout the way
things might have been ♪
702
00:38:33,937 --> 00:38:36,731
- ♪ Big wheel keep on turning ♪
- ♪ Turning ♪
703
00:38:36,815 --> 00:38:38,525
- ♪ Proud Mary keep on burning ♪
704
00:38:38,608 --> 00:38:39,734
- ♪ Burning ♪
- ♪ Rolling ♪
705
00:38:39,818 --> 00:38:41,069
- ♪ Yeah ♪
- ♪ Rolling ♪
706
00:38:41,194 --> 00:38:43,530
- ♪ Rolling ♪
- ♪ Rolling on the river ♪
707
00:38:43,613 --> 00:38:45,824
- ♪ I said we're rolling ♪
- ♪ Rolling ♪
708
00:38:45,907 --> 00:38:46,991
- ♪ Rolling ♪
- ♪ Yeah ♪
709
00:38:47,075 --> 00:38:48,868
♪ Rolling on the river ♪
710
00:38:49,577 --> 00:38:52,205
♪ River, do, do, do, do, do, do, do ♪
711
00:38:52,288 --> 00:38:53,498
♪ Do, do, do ♪
712
00:38:53,581 --> 00:38:59,587
♪ ♪
713
00:39:02,173 --> 00:39:04,092
- "Proud Mary" became a hit-
714
00:39:04,175 --> 00:39:06,511
We were all over America-
715
00:39:06,594 --> 00:39:09,094
♪ And I pumped a lot of
'tane down in New Orleans ♪
716
00:39:09,222 --> 00:39:11,766
♪ But I never saw the
good side of the city ♪
717
00:39:11,933 --> 00:39:14,352
♪ Till I hitched a ride on
the riverboat queen... ♪
718
00:39:14,435 --> 00:39:16,688
- That's just fabulous. That's fabulous.
719
00:39:17,814 --> 00:39:19,566
- Who settles an argument if you...
720
00:39:19,649 --> 00:39:20,942
- Ah-
721
00:39:21,359 --> 00:39:23,444
Things are not always the
way they look, you know.
722
00:39:23,528 --> 00:39:24,988
- No. Ike's kind of quiet.
723
00:39:25,071 --> 00:39:27,115
- Yeah, he's... Ike is very bashful
724
00:39:27,198 --> 00:39:28,825
when the lights are on, and...
725
00:39:31,578 --> 00:39:32,871
But on the other hand,
726
00:39:32,954 --> 00:39:34,289
when he's in the recording studio,
727
00:39:34,372 --> 00:39:36,416
Ike's the one that does
all of the ruling around,
728
00:39:36,499 --> 00:39:38,626
the talking, he's the whole thing.
729
00:39:38,710 --> 00:39:40,169
- But in public, he's like this.
730
00:39:40,211 --> 00:39:41,504
- Yeah, 'cause he can't get it together.
731
00:39:41,588 --> 00:39:43,172
Takes him...
732
00:40:08,573 --> 00:40:10,423
♪ You better do it, we're rolling... ♪
733
00:40:15,830 --> 00:40:17,040
♪ Rolling ♪
- ♪ Rolling ♪
734
00:40:17,123 --> 00:40:18,666
♪ Rolling on the river ♪
735
00:40:18,750 --> 00:40:20,710
- ♪ Go ahead, ah...- ♪
736
00:40:33,514 --> 00:40:34,974
♪ Hey ♪
737
00:40:53,826 --> 00:40:56,037
- I swear you're behind
me. Y'all behind me.
738
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:57,455
These are all...
739
00:40:57,538 --> 00:41:00,500
I'm on a speed above
where y'all feeling at.
740
00:41:00,583 --> 00:41:02,783
- You're saying on him, too?
- Y'all hear me?
741
00:41:10,802 --> 00:41:12,553
I'm just saying, like,
you're telling her that,
742
00:41:12,637 --> 00:41:13,805
and she's not getting there.
743
00:41:13,888 --> 00:41:15,938
I'm just trying to give her an example...
744
00:41:16,099 --> 00:41:17,433
of how to sing.
745
00:41:18,184 --> 00:41:19,769
- Okay. Turn it off.
746
00:41:38,871 --> 00:41:40,373
- In the later part of their career,
747
00:41:40,456 --> 00:41:42,208
when, you know, the hits weren't coming
748
00:41:42,291 --> 00:41:43,876
and a lot of the money wasn't coming in,
749
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:46,421
he started placing the blame elsewhere.
750
00:41:46,504 --> 00:41:48,840
You know, he took a lot
of his anger out on her.
751
00:41:48,923 --> 00:41:51,050
♪ ♪
752
00:41:51,134 --> 00:41:54,512
Most of the time, when
Ike would come home,
753
00:41:54,595 --> 00:41:56,305
he would take her back in the room
754
00:41:56,389 --> 00:41:57,807
and then close the door,
755
00:41:57,890 --> 00:41:59,892
and there'd be the screams-
756
00:42:00,101 --> 00:42:02,228
And we were so petrified, we were in bed
757
00:42:02,311 --> 00:42:04,522
with the, you know,
covers over our heads.
758
00:42:04,981 --> 00:42:08,234
And then I remember one time, he was...
759
00:42:12,905 --> 00:42:15,324
He was striking my mother.
760
00:42:16,034 --> 00:42:17,452
And I was young-
761
00:42:17,535 --> 00:42:19,162
And he had thrown
762
00:42:19,245 --> 00:42:21,956
some scalding hot coffee on her.
763
00:42:23,833 --> 00:42:25,752
And I went and banged on the door,
764
00:42:27,253 --> 00:42:28,629
and I said, "Mother-"
765
00:42:28,713 --> 00:42:30,339
And then it stopped, and then she said,
766
00:42:30,423 --> 00:42:31,591
"Craig, I'm okay-"
767
00:42:33,384 --> 00:42:35,344
He came to apologize,
768
00:42:36,012 --> 00:42:39,015
and he apologized for
the third-degree burn
769
00:42:39,098 --> 00:42:40,349
but didn't apologize
770
00:42:40,433 --> 00:42:41,768
for throwing the coffee on her.
771
00:42:41,851 --> 00:42:43,603
At that point in time, I hated that man
772
00:42:43,686 --> 00:42:45,271
for the rest of my life-
773
00:42:45,605 --> 00:42:47,690
And I'll never forget that-
774
00:42:47,774 --> 00:42:48,900
Never-
775
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:54,280
♪ ♪
776
00:43:01,204 --> 00:43:05,083
♪ ♪
777
00:43:06,250 --> 00:43:08,336
I had began to not really care.
778
00:43:08,419 --> 00:43:10,922
♪ ♪
779
00:43:11,089 --> 00:43:12,673
And I was there alone-
780
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:15,760
How can I tell you what alone meant?
781
00:43:15,843 --> 00:43:20,807
♪ ♪
782
00:43:58,511 --> 00:44:00,179
♪ Tell me, have you seen him? ♪
783
00:44:13,901 --> 00:44:17,655
♪ ♪
784
00:44:18,364 --> 00:44:21,075
- We got to the hospital-
They pumped her stomach.
785
00:44:21,159 --> 00:44:23,077
And I think Ike was
out talking to the doctor
786
00:44:23,161 --> 00:44:24,787
or something,
787
00:44:24,871 --> 00:44:26,539
and I was in there, just her and I,
788
00:44:26,622 --> 00:44:28,875
and I was scared shitless, and I thought,
789
00:44:28,958 --> 00:44:31,043
"Tina, you can't die. I
mean, come on, now."
790
00:44:31,127 --> 00:44:32,420
It just really scared me
791
00:44:32,503 --> 00:44:35,089
'cause I didn't know
what had ha... you know,
792
00:44:35,173 --> 00:44:37,925
if she was gonna pull through or not.
793
00:44:38,009 --> 00:44:43,556
♪ ♪
794
00:45:05,369 --> 00:45:07,246
- These are some difficult questions now,
795
00:45:07,330 --> 00:45:10,333
and there was a time
where she was unhappy,
796
00:45:10,416 --> 00:45:12,168
and there was a suicide attempt.
797
00:45:12,251 --> 00:45:13,794
Can you talk about her unhappiness
798
00:45:13,878 --> 00:45:15,421
and how that made you feel?
799
00:45:20,092 --> 00:45:22,470
- Well, I can't really say how I felt
800
00:45:22,553 --> 00:45:25,681
because I never knew how she felt.
801
00:45:25,765 --> 00:45:29,685
I didn't know why she attempted suicide,
802
00:45:29,769 --> 00:45:32,146
because I thought maybe that it was a...
803
00:45:34,774 --> 00:45:36,150
Well...
804
00:45:38,152 --> 00:45:40,071
let me start this again.
805
00:45:40,154 --> 00:45:43,157
At first, Tina attempting suicide
806
00:45:43,241 --> 00:45:45,201
two or three times,
807
00:45:45,534 --> 00:45:48,663
I think that this was
some form of attention.
808
00:45:49,413 --> 00:45:52,708
She was unhappy about
the things that I was doing,
809
00:45:52,792 --> 00:45:54,502
me being a womanizer,
810
00:45:54,543 --> 00:45:56,212
being with all these
women and stuff like this,
811
00:45:56,295 --> 00:45:58,172
and I think that
812
00:45:58,256 --> 00:46:00,132
the real truth is that
813
00:46:00,216 --> 00:46:03,636
she was trying to be
something that she wasn't.
814
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:06,347
She was... wait a minute-
I want to clarify this.
815
00:46:06,430 --> 00:46:08,933
She was trying to be
816
00:46:09,183 --> 00:46:11,227
what she thought I wanted...
817
00:46:11,310 --> 00:46:13,562
not what she really was.
818
00:46:13,646 --> 00:46:15,231
She was trying to please me.
819
00:46:15,314 --> 00:46:17,858
And so, therefore, she was
going through a lot of hurt,
820
00:46:17,942 --> 00:46:19,527
and I think she had a very unhappy life
821
00:46:19,610 --> 00:46:20,695
because of that-
822
00:46:20,778 --> 00:46:22,321
I think we were living a lie,
823
00:46:22,405 --> 00:46:25,533
and if I had done used
my head any at all,
824
00:46:25,616 --> 00:46:27,451
I would've known better-
825
00:46:27,827 --> 00:46:32,164
And so this is what led to our downfall.
826
00:46:39,088 --> 00:46:40,965
♪ ♪
827
00:47:35,061 --> 00:47:38,022
- Buddhism was a way out-
828
00:47:38,731 --> 00:47:40,524
And it changed your attitude
829
00:47:40,608 --> 00:47:43,527
towards the situation that you're in.
830
00:47:43,611 --> 00:47:45,446
The more you chant, the more, you know,
831
00:47:45,529 --> 00:47:48,032
you become liberated mentally.
832
00:48:40,251 --> 00:48:44,296
- ♪ Yo ♪
833
00:48:44,505 --> 00:48:45,589
Hey!
834
00:48:45,673 --> 00:48:47,633
♪ Yo ♪
835
00:48:58,644 --> 00:48:59,770
Hey!
836
00:49:12,658 --> 00:49:14,493
- ♪ Every woman ♪
- ♪ Just a little bit ♪
837
00:49:14,577 --> 00:49:17,204
- ♪ Hey, hey, every move, girl ♪
838
00:49:17,288 --> 00:49:19,188
♪ You've got to have a little respect ♪
839
00:49:19,665 --> 00:49:20,624
♪ Just a little bit ♪
840
00:49:20,708 --> 00:49:22,585
- Ike had recognized it, too,
841
00:49:22,668 --> 00:49:25,337
that he couldn't control her anymore,
842
00:49:25,421 --> 00:49:27,673
because she just wasn't
putting up with any of that.
843
00:49:27,756 --> 00:49:28,841
- Right now...
844
00:49:29,925 --> 00:49:31,677
I'm gonna talk about respect...
845
00:49:32,386 --> 00:49:33,679
because, you see,
846
00:49:35,181 --> 00:49:36,891
respect is what I want.
847
00:49:38,309 --> 00:49:40,394
I think it's what most of us want.
848
00:49:41,061 --> 00:49:43,814
But, you know, we don't
always get what we want,
849
00:49:44,356 --> 00:49:45,858
especially us women.
850
00:49:47,651 --> 00:49:49,320
Tonight I'm gonna speak
for us women, you see,
851
00:49:49,403 --> 00:49:51,489
because, somehow,
852
00:49:52,198 --> 00:49:54,867
the men always manage to get
853
00:49:54,950 --> 00:49:56,619
what they want.
854
00:49:57,077 --> 00:49:58,370
That's right.
855
00:49:58,746 --> 00:50:00,498
They do what they want to do
856
00:50:01,624 --> 00:50:03,626
whenever they want to do it.
857
00:50:03,709 --> 00:50:05,377
And you know what?
858
00:50:06,003 --> 00:50:08,964
They do it with whoever
they want to do it with.
859
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:12,301
Now, fellas, you've started
us women to thinking.
860
00:50:12,510 --> 00:50:14,345
Yeah, we can think, too.
861
00:50:14,470 --> 00:50:18,390
We think that whatever's
out there in the streets
862
00:50:18,474 --> 00:50:20,142
must be good...
863
00:50:20,643 --> 00:50:23,646
'cause you mens been
out there a long time.
864
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:27,230
Now us women wants to go
out there and get us some, too.
865
00:50:28,567 --> 00:50:29,860
But I want you to...
866
00:50:30,194 --> 00:50:31,612
♪ To get together ♪
867
00:50:31,862 --> 00:50:34,156
♪ I want you to try to feel it ♪
868
00:50:34,698 --> 00:50:35,866
♪ Try to feel it ♪
869
00:50:35,991 --> 00:50:38,285
- ♪ And I want everybody ♪
- ♪ Just a little bit ♪
870
00:50:38,369 --> 00:50:39,954
- ♪ To do a soul clap ♪
- ♪ Just a little bit ♪
871
00:50:40,037 --> 00:50:41,622
- ♪ Clap your hands ♪
- ♪ Just a little bit ♪
872
00:50:41,705 --> 00:50:43,123
- ♪ Everybody ♪
- ♪ Just a little bit ♪
873
00:50:43,207 --> 00:50:46,126
- ♪ Clap, clap, clap
your hands, everybody ♪
874
00:50:49,338 --> 00:50:52,967
♪ ♪
875
00:50:53,050 --> 00:50:54,635
- ♪ Ow! ♪
- ♪ Just a little bit ♪
876
00:50:54,718 --> 00:50:56,428
- ♪ A little respect ♪
- ♪ Just a little bit ♪
877
00:50:56,512 --> 00:50:58,389
- ♪ Oh ♪
- ♪ Just a little bit ♪
878
00:50:58,472 --> 00:51:00,182
♪ Just a little bit ♪
- Sock it to me.
879
00:51:00,266 --> 00:51:01,850
♪ Now get on ♪
880
00:51:02,476 --> 00:51:04,270
- ♪ Child ♪
- ♪ Just a little bit ♪
881
00:51:04,353 --> 00:51:05,688
- ♪ Hey ♪
- ♪ Just a little bit ♪
882
00:51:05,771 --> 00:51:06,939
- ♪ Clap your hands ♪
883
00:51:07,022 --> 00:51:08,190
♪ Now, come on ♪
884
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:10,025
♪ Clap your hands ♪
885
00:51:10,109 --> 00:51:11,819
♪ That's what I mean ♪
886
00:51:11,902 --> 00:51:13,153
♪ Oh, yeah ♪
887
00:51:13,237 --> 00:51:14,363
♪ Oh, yeah ♪
888
00:51:42,266 --> 00:51:43,475
- Okay, okay.
889
00:52:28,395 --> 00:52:33,233
♪ ♪
890
00:53:48,642 --> 00:53:52,020
The memory of that was
horrendous, of course,
891
00:53:52,104 --> 00:53:54,898
because I was practically
run over by a truck.
892
00:53:54,982 --> 00:53:56,650
I didn't... I didn't...
893
00:53:56,734 --> 00:53:58,360
Well, I wasn't thinking
clearly, of course.
894
00:53:58,444 --> 00:54:01,947
And so I thought at that point
was a time when I could cross,
895
00:54:02,030 --> 00:54:04,825
but, you know, I had felt
like I was moving slow,
896
00:54:04,908 --> 00:54:06,577
and there was that big truck,
897
00:54:06,660 --> 00:54:08,203
really one of the big ones coming,
898
00:54:08,287 --> 00:54:09,621
and the horn blew.
899
00:54:09,705 --> 00:54:11,457
"Rah," right?
900
00:54:11,540 --> 00:54:15,419
And what I mostly remember
901
00:54:15,502 --> 00:54:16,837
is flashing lights.
902
00:54:23,260 --> 00:54:29,266
♪ ♪
903
00:54:41,945 --> 00:54:45,407
♪ ♪
904
00:55:46,426 --> 00:55:51,348
♪ ♪
905
00:55:51,473 --> 00:55:53,725
The next day, it was the Fourth of July,
906
00:55:53,809 --> 00:55:55,602
and I said, "Of course,
the Fourth of July."
907
00:55:55,686 --> 00:55:58,063
But I'll remember every
time, "Oh, the Fourth of July.
908
00:55:58,146 --> 00:56:00,274
It's when I got my freedom."
909
00:56:01,149 --> 00:56:04,862
♪ ♪
910
00:56:07,948 --> 00:56:13,704
♪ ♪
911
00:56:36,393 --> 00:56:39,855
The divorce was clean-cut-
912
00:56:39,938 --> 00:56:41,565
I got nothing-
913
00:56:41,648 --> 00:56:43,442
No money, no house, no car-
914
00:57:13,305 --> 00:57:16,141
That is when I realized
that I could use Tina
915
00:57:16,224 --> 00:57:17,976
to become...
916
00:57:18,977 --> 00:57:20,312
A business-
917
00:57:21,980 --> 00:57:24,191
And so I said, "I'll just take my name."
918
00:57:26,735 --> 00:57:28,153
Ike fought a little bit
919
00:57:28,236 --> 00:57:30,405
because he knew what I would do with it.
920
00:57:30,781 --> 00:57:33,450
And it was through court that I got it.
921
00:57:33,700 --> 00:57:34,868
Tina.
922
00:57:39,289 --> 00:57:42,376
- To keep it is to reclaim it,
923
00:57:42,459 --> 00:57:45,087
reshape it, refine it-
924
00:57:47,130 --> 00:57:49,841
Also a kind of, like, "fuck you" to Ike.
925
00:57:49,925 --> 00:57:52,761
"Yeah, you gave me this name,
926
00:57:52,844 --> 00:57:55,514
but watch what I build with it."
927
00:58:01,728 --> 00:58:03,397
♪ ♪
928
00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:06,024
- ♪ When you walk into the bar ♪
929
00:58:06,108 --> 00:58:08,360
♪ I'm the first one you're gonna see ♪
930
00:58:10,237 --> 00:58:12,781
♪ Business and pleasure just don't mix ♪
931
00:58:12,864 --> 00:58:15,492
♪ So can I take your order, please? ♪
932
00:58:17,285 --> 00:58:20,080
♪ You fellas know I don't take no mess ♪
933
00:58:20,163 --> 00:58:22,416
♪ It's a whole lotta woman ♪
934
00:58:22,499 --> 00:58:25,043
♪ In this dress ♪
935
00:58:25,502 --> 00:58:27,754
♪ Oh, they call me ♪
936
00:58:27,838 --> 00:58:29,506
♪ A root, toot ♪
937
00:58:29,589 --> 00:58:33,010
♪ Undisputable rock and roller ♪
938
00:58:33,093 --> 00:58:34,177
♪ Roller ♪
939
00:58:34,261 --> 00:58:36,346
- ♪ I got a fine fanny ♪
940
00:58:36,430 --> 00:58:38,223
♪ But a rough-talking Annie ♪
941
00:58:38,306 --> 00:58:40,183
♪ Rock and roller ♪
942
00:58:41,268 --> 00:58:42,310
♪ Oh! ♪
943
00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:44,813
I realized I had to go to work.
944
00:58:44,896 --> 00:58:46,773
I mean, I couldn't just stay there
945
00:58:46,857 --> 00:58:48,400
and wait for what?
946
00:58:48,483 --> 00:58:49,818
I had to work.
947
00:58:50,027 --> 00:58:51,153
- After Tina left Ike,
948
00:58:51,486 --> 00:58:53,488
somebody had to pay
for the dates they blew
949
00:58:53,572 --> 00:58:55,949
and Tina wound up with all the bills,
950
00:58:56,033 --> 00:58:57,117
none of the money.
951
00:58:57,200 --> 00:58:58,702
She would go do Vegas-
952
00:58:58,785 --> 00:59:00,495
She'd go do, like,
McDonald's conventions.
953
00:59:00,579 --> 00:59:01,913
She'd play anywhere
954
00:59:01,997 --> 00:59:04,082
just to make the money to get by.
955
00:59:04,166 --> 00:59:06,710
- ♪ Everybody knows to keep it cool... ♪
956
00:59:07,002 --> 00:59:09,713
- Ike wasn't paying
anything at that point.
957
00:59:09,796 --> 00:59:12,007
So she's got to support
herself and the kids.
958
00:59:13,383 --> 00:59:15,594
So that's when I started
booking television shows.
959
00:59:15,635 --> 00:59:16,928
I mean, we were doing everything
960
00:59:17,012 --> 00:59:18,346
from "The Brady Bunch"...
961
00:59:19,806 --> 00:59:21,558
- ♪ Too many nights ♪
962
00:59:21,641 --> 00:59:23,143
- To "Hollywood Squares"...
963
00:59:23,226 --> 00:59:24,728
- In "The Hollywood Squares-"
964
00:59:24,811 --> 00:59:26,688
- Whatever TV shows we could get her on,
965
00:59:26,772 --> 00:59:28,857
because that was the only
source of income at that point.
966
00:59:28,940 --> 00:59:30,358
- Ike and Tina. Where's Ike?
967
00:59:30,442 --> 00:59:31,902
I don't know.
968
00:59:34,071 --> 00:59:35,781
- So nice to have you on the show, Tina.
969
00:59:35,864 --> 00:59:36,865
- Thank you.
970
00:59:36,948 --> 00:59:39,659
- What I remember is,
there was always the shadow
971
00:59:39,743 --> 00:59:41,578
of Ike Turner-
972
00:59:42,746 --> 00:59:46,500
It was really hard for her, you know.
973
00:59:46,583 --> 00:59:47,876
- Is it all right for me to ask you
974
00:59:47,959 --> 00:59:50,420
if you and Ike are together or separated
975
00:59:50,504 --> 00:59:52,339
or divorced or...
976
00:59:52,672 --> 00:59:54,382
Separated and divorced.
977
00:59:54,466 --> 00:59:56,009
- Separated and divorced?
978
00:59:56,093 --> 00:59:57,511
- Yeah. We are divorced.
979
00:59:57,594 --> 00:59:59,262
- Yeah, it took a while...
980
00:59:59,346 --> 01:00:01,014
- Oh, yes.
- For you to decide?
981
01:00:01,098 --> 01:00:03,600
- Well, yes. It was...
I mean, we're family.
982
01:00:03,683 --> 01:00:06,061
We'd been together for, like, 16 years.
983
01:00:06,144 --> 01:00:08,939
- Ike and Tina Turner, that was a unit.
984
01:00:09,022 --> 01:00:11,108
- People still call me Ike and Tina.
985
01:00:11,191 --> 01:00:12,943
- Ike and Tina?
- Yeah, they do.
986
01:00:13,026 --> 01:00:15,904
- He triggered a lot of trauma...
987
01:00:15,987 --> 01:00:18,156
just the thought of him,
988
01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:20,117
you know, 'cause there was a lot.
989
01:00:20,492 --> 01:00:21,952
But she's a professional-
990
01:00:22,035 --> 01:00:23,829
She'd get onstage, you'd never know
991
01:00:23,912 --> 01:00:25,413
anything was up...
992
01:00:25,789 --> 01:00:27,124
Ever.
993
01:00:27,207 --> 01:00:28,834
- All right, five, six, seven, eight.
994
01:00:28,917 --> 01:00:30,335
♪ Bop, hey ♪
995
01:00:30,418 --> 01:00:32,295
♪ I hear music in the ♪
996
01:00:32,379 --> 01:00:34,464
♪ I hear music ♪
997
01:00:35,006 --> 01:00:37,134
- ♪ Then let me know ♪
998
01:00:37,217 --> 01:00:40,679
♪ There's a party going down ♪
999
01:00:40,762 --> 01:00:42,514
♪ Da-nah-nah-nah ♪
1000
01:00:42,597 --> 01:00:43,765
♪ Da-nah-nah-nah ♪
1001
01:00:46,601 --> 01:00:48,311
I was becoming stagnant-
1002
01:00:48,395 --> 01:00:50,272
I knew that there was something else.
1003
01:00:50,355 --> 01:00:51,982
And I realized I wasn't going anywhere.
1004
01:00:52,065 --> 01:00:53,650
I'd be in Las Vegas all my life.
1005
01:00:53,733 --> 01:00:54,985
Five, six, seven, eight.
1006
01:00:55,068 --> 01:00:56,653
Take two, two, three, four...
1007
01:00:56,736 --> 01:00:59,114
I was ready to get out there-
1008
01:00:59,197 --> 01:01:00,657
This is fine, what you got so far,
1009
01:01:00,740 --> 01:01:02,868
but it's not good enough-
1010
01:01:02,951 --> 01:01:04,661
Well, then the next question is,
1011
01:01:04,744 --> 01:01:06,872
but you'd have to get
someone to organize that.
1012
01:01:06,955 --> 01:01:10,000
That is when Roger came into picture.
1013
01:01:11,418 --> 01:01:14,713
♪ Somebody's gonna hurt someone ♪
1014
01:01:15,547 --> 01:01:18,133
♪ Before the night is through ♪
1015
01:01:18,466 --> 01:01:20,427
♪ ♪
1016
01:01:20,510 --> 01:01:22,721
- Well, I was working
with Olivia Newton-John,
1017
01:01:22,804 --> 01:01:25,098
and we were doing a television special
1018
01:01:25,182 --> 01:01:26,558
called "Hollywood Nights,"
1019
01:01:26,641 --> 01:01:29,519
and Olivia had this desire to have
1020
01:01:29,603 --> 01:01:31,646
really strong female singers back her
1021
01:01:31,730 --> 01:01:33,273
in one or two songs.
1022
01:01:33,356 --> 01:01:35,150
- ♪ If it takes all night ♪
1023
01:01:35,483 --> 01:01:37,819
- We had a list of people we asked.
1024
01:01:37,903 --> 01:01:39,863
Toni Tennille, Captain and Tennille,
1025
01:01:39,946 --> 01:01:41,781
I think Peaches was in it,
1026
01:01:41,865 --> 01:01:43,408
Tina Turner-
1027
01:01:43,491 --> 01:01:45,410
And that's when I first met Tina.
1028
01:01:46,286 --> 01:01:49,080
♪ There's gonna be a heartache tonight ♪
1029
01:01:49,372 --> 01:01:52,250
♪ A heartache tonight, I know ♪
1030
01:01:53,001 --> 01:01:54,127
- ♪ Yes, I know ♪
1031
01:01:54,628 --> 01:01:57,422
♪ There's gonna be a
heartache tonight... ♪
1032
01:01:57,505 --> 01:01:59,090
- I remember when I
walked in to Roger's office,
1033
01:01:59,174 --> 01:02:00,425
he looked at me.
1034
01:02:00,967 --> 01:02:02,677
I will never forget that look-
1035
01:02:02,761 --> 01:02:04,095
It was in wonder-
1036
01:02:04,179 --> 01:02:05,889
"Like," How old is she?
1037
01:02:05,972 --> 01:02:08,350
What can I do with her?" All of that.
1038
01:02:08,433 --> 01:02:10,769
And then I said, "I
simply want a manager.
1039
01:02:10,852 --> 01:02:12,437
"I don't know what to do. I need to work.
1040
01:02:12,520 --> 01:02:13,813
I want to work."
1041
01:02:13,897 --> 01:02:17,108
And then he said, "I
need to see what you do."
1042
01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:20,737
And so I said, "Well, I'm
opening in San Francisco."
1043
01:02:20,820 --> 01:02:22,489
♪ Now you've heard my story ♪
1044
01:02:24,157 --> 01:02:26,534
♪ You heard every word I sang ♪
1045
01:02:27,244 --> 01:02:29,496
- They were doing a two-week residency
1046
01:02:29,579 --> 01:02:31,831
at the Fairmont Hotel in San Francisco,
1047
01:02:31,915 --> 01:02:33,083
two shows a night-
1048
01:02:33,166 --> 01:02:35,001
- ♪ Fahrenheit or centigrade ♪
1049
01:02:35,085 --> 01:02:36,878
♪ They give us fever ♪
1050
01:02:39,714 --> 01:02:41,258
- The first show was supper.
1051
01:02:41,341 --> 01:02:42,634
You know, everyone eating dinner,
1052
01:02:42,717 --> 01:02:44,761
and I'm, like, going,
"Christ," you know...
1053
01:02:44,844 --> 01:02:46,346
- ♪ Fever ♪
1054
01:02:46,429 --> 01:02:47,639
- It was very cabaret,
1055
01:02:47,722 --> 01:02:49,391
and they did a lot of cover versions.
1056
01:02:49,474 --> 01:02:52,602
I didn't react that excited...
1057
01:02:52,727 --> 01:02:54,688
'Cause I didn't think I
could do anything with her.
1058
01:02:54,771 --> 01:02:56,481
- ♪ ...lovely way to burn ♪
1059
01:02:57,482 --> 01:02:59,901
♪ Oh, what a lovely way to burn ♪
1060
01:03:04,823 --> 01:03:07,200
♪ ♪
1061
01:03:07,534 --> 01:03:09,160
♪ Burn, baby, burn ♪
1062
01:03:09,452 --> 01:03:10,578
♪ Choo! ♪
1063
01:03:10,662 --> 01:03:12,372
♪ Burn, baby, burn... ♪
1064
01:03:13,290 --> 01:03:15,125
- Anyway, we stayed for the second show,
1065
01:03:15,208 --> 01:03:17,711
and the second show
being, like, a 9:00 show,
1066
01:03:17,794 --> 01:03:20,630
it was people had some drinks,
they were standing on tables,
1067
01:03:20,714 --> 01:03:22,340
and Tina was just working the audience,
1068
01:03:22,424 --> 01:03:23,967
and I went, "Wow."
1069
01:03:24,217 --> 01:03:26,094
What a great live performance."
1070
01:03:26,469 --> 01:03:28,555
- ♪ People getting loose now ♪
1071
01:03:28,930 --> 01:03:31,558
♪ Getting down on the roof ♪
1072
01:03:33,268 --> 01:03:34,769
♪ I was screaming ♪
1073
01:03:36,271 --> 01:03:37,981
♪ Out of control ♪
1074
01:03:41,151 --> 01:03:45,322
♪ ♪
1075
01:03:45,613 --> 01:03:47,574
- You know when you meet an artist
1076
01:03:47,657 --> 01:03:49,242
if they have got
something that grabs you,
1077
01:03:49,326 --> 01:03:51,077
and, obviously, it did to me,
1078
01:03:51,161 --> 01:03:53,111
and she was also incredibly determined.
1079
01:03:54,497 --> 01:03:56,583
- Roger said to me, "What do you want?"
1080
01:03:58,626 --> 01:04:00,045
I had a dream-
1081
01:04:00,128 --> 01:04:03,298
My dream is to be the first
Black rock and roll singer
1082
01:04:03,381 --> 01:04:05,633
to pack places like the Stones
1083
01:04:05,717 --> 01:04:07,218
or those people that are packing
1084
01:04:07,302 --> 01:04:08,553
those kind of places, you know?
1085
01:04:08,636 --> 01:04:10,138
"-" I want to fill the rock stadiums, Rog
1086
01:04:10,180 --> 01:04:11,389
like Mick and Keith-"
1087
01:04:11,473 --> 01:04:13,224
I said, "Yep, that's
what we're gonna do."
1088
01:04:13,308 --> 01:04:14,768
I had no idea if we were gonna do it,
1089
01:04:14,851 --> 01:04:17,479
'cause there weren't
any female rock artists
1090
01:04:17,562 --> 01:04:19,662
in the world selling
out football stadiums.
1091
01:04:21,900 --> 01:04:24,611
- Tina's problem, after
leaving the Ike orbit,
1092
01:04:24,694 --> 01:04:25,904
was now she's on her own-
1093
01:04:25,987 --> 01:04:28,031
She's just Tina Turner, but who is that?
1094
01:04:28,281 --> 01:04:30,283
♪ ♪
1095
01:04:30,367 --> 01:04:32,202
She is, by this point,
1096
01:04:32,535 --> 01:04:34,079
older than your average pop star.
1097
01:04:34,162 --> 01:04:35,663
She's a middle-aged woman-
1098
01:04:35,747 --> 01:04:37,999
Is she R&B? Was it disco?
1099
01:04:38,083 --> 01:04:39,667
Wasn't she doing that recently?
1100
01:04:39,751 --> 01:04:42,003
It was very unclear.
Her image was unclear.
1101
01:04:42,379 --> 01:04:44,589
- When Tina said, "I'd
like you to manage me,"
1102
01:04:44,672 --> 01:04:46,049
I immediately thought,
1103
01:04:46,132 --> 01:04:47,967
"Well, I've got to get her a record deal,
1104
01:04:48,051 --> 01:04:49,719
"we've got to change the image
1105
01:04:49,803 --> 01:04:51,805
"so people at record companies know
1106
01:04:51,888 --> 01:04:54,641
"that you're not just
a Vegas cabaret act.
1107
01:04:54,724 --> 01:04:56,267
We're gonna make it current-"
1108
01:04:56,393 --> 01:04:58,693
I said, "We're gonna
have to make a rock show."
1109
01:05:01,689 --> 01:05:05,568
♪ ♪
1110
01:05:05,652 --> 01:05:08,154
- I was ready for change-
I was ready for that.
1111
01:05:11,491 --> 01:05:13,284
But first of all, the long hair
1112
01:05:13,368 --> 01:05:16,746
was a look that I used for Ike and Tina,
1113
01:05:16,830 --> 01:05:18,415
so I cut the hair.
1114
01:05:19,666 --> 01:05:21,835
That was a change immediately-
1115
01:05:23,878 --> 01:05:26,005
Then the Bob Mackie clothes went.
1116
01:05:26,089 --> 01:05:28,633
♪ ♪
1117
01:05:28,716 --> 01:05:30,593
Pulled out some of my
rock and roll dresses,
1118
01:05:30,677 --> 01:05:31,886
the shorter ones-
1119
01:05:32,470 --> 01:05:35,306
And I went to work.
- Five, six, seven, eight...
1120
01:05:38,518 --> 01:05:39,978
- Ladies and gentlemen...
1121
01:05:41,938 --> 01:05:42,981
Tina Turner!
1122
01:05:47,694 --> 01:05:51,865
♪ ♪
1123
01:05:51,948 --> 01:05:54,159
- ♪ Can I introduce myself? ♪
1124
01:05:55,034 --> 01:05:57,537
♪ I'm a gal of financial wealth ♪
1125
01:05:58,246 --> 01:06:00,957
♪ Sound in mind, body, soul, and health ♪
1126
01:06:01,458 --> 01:06:05,420
♪ Oh, and I want to kill his wife ♪
1127
01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:08,339
♪ I have this urge to take her life... ♪
1128
01:06:08,423 --> 01:06:10,467
- We hired a young band-
1129
01:06:10,592 --> 01:06:12,760
We didn't really have any money.
1130
01:06:12,844 --> 01:06:15,096
So Tina, who always knew
1131
01:06:15,180 --> 01:06:17,056
what she wanted them to look like,
1132
01:06:17,140 --> 01:06:19,559
said, "We'll put them
in black karate suits."
1133
01:06:19,976 --> 01:06:21,394
The band hated it-
1134
01:06:21,478 --> 01:06:23,897
The musicians were like,
"Why do we have to wear this?"
1135
01:06:23,980 --> 01:06:25,982
I said, "You know, you each
get a different color belt."
1136
01:06:26,065 --> 01:06:29,694
- ♪ She'll escape down into Mexico.. ♪
1137
01:06:29,777 --> 01:06:31,613
- We looked a little bit shabby,
1138
01:06:31,654 --> 01:06:34,073
but that's what rock
and roll is... it's shabby.
1139
01:06:34,824 --> 01:06:36,826
- She wanted two girls
1140
01:06:36,951 --> 01:06:39,829
to get away, I think,
from that Ikette thing.
1141
01:06:39,913 --> 01:06:41,831
- ♪ Should I act quite
cold and deliberate? ♪
1142
01:06:41,915 --> 01:06:45,627
- She was reinventing
herself as Tina Turner.
1143
01:06:45,710 --> 01:06:47,337
- ♪ And they'll all say suicide ♪
1144
01:06:47,420 --> 01:06:48,922
♪ They won't know who done it... ♪
1145
01:06:49,005 --> 01:06:50,632
That was the beginning
of me taking control
1146
01:06:50,715 --> 01:06:52,425
of my performance-
1147
01:06:53,009 --> 01:06:54,928
I was my own boss.
1148
01:06:55,053 --> 01:06:56,846
♪ I really want to take her life ♪
1149
01:06:57,472 --> 01:07:00,683
- ♪ She'll escape down into Mexico ♪
1150
01:07:00,767 --> 01:07:03,603
- ♪ Baby, into Mexico ♪
1151
01:07:03,686 --> 01:07:05,230
- ♪ Sell the house ♪
1152
01:07:05,313 --> 01:07:07,607
♪ And find a nice young beau ♪
1153
01:07:08,066 --> 01:07:10,443
- ♪ Find a nice young beau ♪
1154
01:07:10,527 --> 01:07:12,111
- ♪ With long black hair ♪
1155
01:07:12,195 --> 01:07:14,572
- ♪ And I won't work no more ♪
1156
01:07:14,656 --> 01:07:15,532
♪ Ha ♪
1157
01:07:15,865 --> 01:07:17,408
♪ Ha ha ha ha ha ♪
1158
01:07:18,409 --> 01:07:20,870
♪ Ooh ooh ooh ♪
1159
01:07:21,204 --> 01:07:22,789
♪ Ya ya ya ya ♪
1160
01:07:22,872 --> 01:07:24,207
♪ Ya ya ya ya ♪
1161
01:07:26,960 --> 01:07:29,003
So immediately we changed the show.
1162
01:07:29,087 --> 01:07:30,964
Reviews were great-
Everything was going well.
1163
01:07:31,047 --> 01:07:33,424
And then we started working
to try to get a record deal.
1164
01:07:33,508 --> 01:07:35,176
Nobody would touch Tina Turner.
1165
01:07:35,927 --> 01:07:37,929
- When I first started
1166
01:07:38,012 --> 01:07:41,015
trying to look for a deal with Tina,
1167
01:07:41,641 --> 01:07:44,143
the general feeling was "ls
she still with that guy Ike?"
1168
01:07:44,227 --> 01:07:46,312
No one had any idea.
1169
01:07:46,396 --> 01:07:49,399
Tina needed to be exposed
as... She's a solo artist.
1170
01:07:49,482 --> 01:07:51,359
She's not associated with Ike-
1171
01:07:52,277 --> 01:07:54,237
- Roger came to me,
1172
01:07:54,320 --> 01:07:57,907
asking me if I would be
willing to give the story
1173
01:07:57,991 --> 01:07:59,075
to the press,
1174
01:07:59,325 --> 01:08:01,744
and I was afraid to...
1175
01:08:02,912 --> 01:08:04,956
put it out because of...
1176
01:08:05,415 --> 01:08:07,584
what I might receive from Ike.
1177
01:08:17,093 --> 01:08:19,053
- I didn't really know too much about
1178
01:08:19,137 --> 01:08:21,556
the backstory, and nobody knew
1179
01:08:21,639 --> 01:08:24,267
about the traumas that she went through.
1180
01:08:24,642 --> 01:08:27,895
You know, I just was looking
for a simple comeback story.
1181
01:08:27,979 --> 01:08:29,772
Little did I know, you know,
1182
01:08:29,856 --> 01:08:32,900
there was this whole
legend that came about.
1183
01:08:36,404 --> 01:08:38,489
- I didn't know what to expect.
1184
01:08:40,742 --> 01:08:42,910
I wanted to stop people from...
1185
01:08:42,994 --> 01:08:45,413
thinking that Ike and
Tina was so positive.
1186
01:08:45,496 --> 01:08:47,332
I mean, it was... it was...
1187
01:08:47,415 --> 01:08:50,543
that we were such a
love team or a great team,
1188
01:08:50,627 --> 01:08:52,420
and it wasn't like that.
1189
01:08:52,795 --> 01:08:55,298
So I thought, if nothing else,
1190
01:08:55,381 --> 01:08:57,634
at least people would know-
1191
01:09:01,846 --> 01:09:03,389
- Tina Turner is a legend,
1192
01:09:03,473 --> 01:09:06,392
a major influence on
rock stars like Rod Stewart
1193
01:09:06,476 --> 01:09:07,685
and Mick Jagger-
1194
01:09:07,852 --> 01:09:10,271
Once, she was teamed
with her husband Ike.
1195
01:09:10,355 --> 01:09:11,898
Now she's on her own,
1196
01:09:11,981 --> 01:09:14,381
trying to establish herself
as a star once again.
1197
01:09:14,984 --> 01:09:16,819
- My life with Ike
1198
01:09:16,903 --> 01:09:19,822
was one that a lot of, maybe,
people are familiar with...
1199
01:09:19,906 --> 01:09:21,324
Husbands that...
1200
01:09:21,407 --> 01:09:24,243
That practice brutality.
1201
01:09:24,327 --> 01:09:25,620
- Yeah?
- Yeah.
1202
01:09:26,287 --> 01:09:29,374
- Nobody talked about sexual abuse,
1203
01:09:29,457 --> 01:09:31,959
physical abuse, domestic abuse.
1204
01:09:32,043 --> 01:09:33,336
Abuse, period.
1205
01:09:33,961 --> 01:09:37,507
Our generation is the generation
1206
01:09:37,590 --> 01:09:41,427
that started to break the silence.
1207
01:09:43,596 --> 01:09:46,516
- Tina... she couldn't
voice her own opinion.
1208
01:09:46,599 --> 01:09:48,685
Everything that she did was Ike.
1209
01:09:49,018 --> 01:09:53,231
- The idea of Tina as
a presence on her own
1210
01:09:53,314 --> 01:09:56,609
and having escaped...
People loved that story.
1211
01:09:56,693 --> 01:10:00,029
They wanted to... you know,
here was somebody to root for.
1212
01:10:01,656 --> 01:10:03,074
- Once the word was out,
1213
01:10:03,157 --> 01:10:05,034
we met a guy called Carter,
1214
01:10:05,118 --> 01:10:08,371
John Carter, at Capitol,
who believed in her.
1215
01:10:08,705 --> 01:10:11,374
- I had always been interested in artists
1216
01:10:11,457 --> 01:10:13,209
that no one else was interested in.
1217
01:10:13,710 --> 01:10:16,087
Once a star, always a threat,
1218
01:10:16,170 --> 01:10:18,131
and that's the way I felt about Tina.
1219
01:10:18,214 --> 01:10:19,924
- So you play that
thing, you're playing that,
1220
01:10:20,007 --> 01:10:21,467
and you're playing that strum under me,
1221
01:10:21,551 --> 01:10:23,428
and we move downstage with that.
1222
01:10:23,511 --> 01:10:25,138
Let's just get that right.
That's exactly what...
1223
01:10:25,221 --> 01:10:27,140
- Carter basically gave us
1224
01:10:27,223 --> 01:10:29,225
a development deal-
1225
01:10:29,726 --> 01:10:31,728
We tried probably eight or ten tracks,
1226
01:10:31,811 --> 01:10:33,229
still trying to find our way-
1227
01:10:33,312 --> 01:10:34,856
We never got quite there-
1228
01:10:34,939 --> 01:10:36,691
- Stay under me there,
but just come down.
1229
01:10:36,774 --> 01:10:39,068
Keep the pulse under
me. Don't lose the...
1230
01:10:39,152 --> 01:10:40,778
- We record a few things,
1231
01:10:40,862 --> 01:10:43,614
and as much as Roger
and I would get enthusiastic
1232
01:10:43,698 --> 01:10:45,950
about a song here and a song there,
1233
01:10:46,033 --> 01:10:49,370
it was never really the
body of work that we needed.
1234
01:10:51,581 --> 01:10:54,500
- And then one day, Carter rang me up,
1235
01:10:54,584 --> 01:10:57,962
beside himself, because there'd
been a change of management
1236
01:10:58,045 --> 01:10:59,505
at Capitol Records.
1237
01:10:59,797 --> 01:11:02,049
And they'd been in a meeting,
and they'd been going through
1238
01:11:02,133 --> 01:11:04,761
the roster of artists, I guess, and...
1239
01:11:04,969 --> 01:11:08,931
the new management
didn't want Tina on the label.
1240
01:11:09,015 --> 01:11:11,392
- The new regime comes in...
- Mm-hmm.
1241
01:11:11,476 --> 01:11:13,811
- And like any new regime,
1242
01:11:13,895 --> 01:11:16,189
they got their own idea
about what they want to do.
1243
01:11:16,272 --> 01:11:19,233
- Right- - So I flip out.
1244
01:11:19,317 --> 01:11:23,905
I go downstairs, and I
said, "Hey, this is my act,"
1245
01:11:23,988 --> 01:11:26,282
and the classic quote is,
1246
01:11:26,699 --> 01:11:29,702
"Carter, you signed this
old nigger douchebag?"
1247
01:11:29,786 --> 01:11:31,913
- Whoa-Whoa- - "Yeah.
1248
01:11:31,996 --> 01:11:34,165
"Yeah, I did, and I'm
really happy about it.
1249
01:11:34,248 --> 01:11:36,334
Now, pick up the phone
and call Roger Davies."
1250
01:11:36,417 --> 01:11:38,336
- Wow- - He said, "No fuckin' way."
1251
01:11:38,669 --> 01:11:41,255
And I get on my knees, and I said,
1252
01:11:41,339 --> 01:11:43,090
"I'm now gonna beg you,
1253
01:11:43,174 --> 01:11:46,469
and I'm not gonna get up
until you pick up the phone."
1254
01:11:46,969 --> 01:11:50,389
And there was a long stare-down,
1255
01:11:51,015 --> 01:11:53,351
and he picks up the phone- - Wow.
1256
01:11:53,810 --> 01:11:56,646
- Well, he says, "Okay,
back on the roster."
1257
01:11:56,729 --> 01:11:58,564
- Mm-hmm- - "You finish your record.
1258
01:11:58,648 --> 01:12:01,442
"But you understand that
we're gonna do nothing!
1259
01:12:01,526 --> 01:12:03,236
That's all there is-"
1260
01:12:07,240 --> 01:12:09,742
♪ ♪
1261
01:12:32,598 --> 01:12:35,309
♪ ♪
1262
01:12:35,393 --> 01:12:37,270
I was held back
1263
01:12:38,145 --> 01:12:40,147
for a very long time...
1264
01:12:41,357 --> 01:12:43,317
But I didn't suffer from those things,
1265
01:12:43,401 --> 01:12:45,570
and it's not necessary
to suffer about that
1266
01:12:45,653 --> 01:12:48,322
because what can you
do about it, you know?
1267
01:12:48,865 --> 01:12:50,741
So I didn't think about those things.
1268
01:12:50,825 --> 01:12:53,327
♪ ♪
1269
01:12:53,452 --> 01:12:56,038
- She always had a belief
it was gonna be okay.
1270
01:12:56,122 --> 01:12:59,709
And I think you have to
have that belief to keep going.
1271
01:13:00,209 --> 01:13:04,672
♪ ♪
1272
01:13:04,964 --> 01:13:07,216
Radio, as you know, in America
1273
01:13:07,300 --> 01:13:09,010
was very categorized, and there's pop,
1274
01:13:09,093 --> 01:13:11,679
and there's R&B, there's
urban, and there's hot AC,
1275
01:13:11,762 --> 01:13:13,639
and she wanted to sing rock-
1276
01:13:13,931 --> 01:13:17,476
And that wasn't really what
they thought would work.
1277
01:13:18,144 --> 01:13:20,771
And that's when we knew
that it had to be England,
1278
01:13:20,855 --> 01:13:22,732
'cause England and Europe got her.
1279
01:13:28,738 --> 01:13:31,782
♪ ♪
1280
01:13:32,116 --> 01:13:33,910
- It was London-
1281
01:13:33,993 --> 01:13:37,580
It was another whole experience
1282
01:13:38,122 --> 01:13:39,582
from America-
1283
01:13:39,957 --> 01:13:42,001
You know, it felt like home-
1284
01:13:42,084 --> 01:13:44,295
It felt so comfortable
1285
01:13:44,378 --> 01:13:46,964
that I could have been there all my life.
1286
01:13:47,048 --> 01:13:49,675
♪ ♪
1287
01:13:49,759 --> 01:13:52,887
Well, I didn't have that
many friends in America
1288
01:13:52,970 --> 01:13:55,264
because, of course, Ike-
1289
01:13:55,348 --> 01:13:57,767
And then when I left Ike,
1290
01:13:58,601 --> 01:14:01,437
immediately I went to work-
1291
01:14:01,520 --> 01:14:03,940
♪ ♪
1292
01:14:04,023 --> 01:14:06,776
My sons were at home-They were fine.
1293
01:14:07,526 --> 01:14:09,612
My oldest was 28-
1294
01:14:10,071 --> 01:14:12,657
My youngest was moving
well into his middle 20s.
1295
01:14:12,740 --> 01:14:14,367
So not really kids anymore-
1296
01:14:15,451 --> 01:14:17,411
I left everything and everybody behind.
1297
01:14:17,745 --> 01:14:20,122
I needed every minute of my brains
1298
01:14:20,831 --> 01:14:22,750
to map my life together-
1299
01:14:22,833 --> 01:14:24,794
Fellas, do you know
what we're doing today?
1300
01:14:24,877 --> 01:14:26,963
- It's almost like she
had a coming of age
1301
01:14:27,046 --> 01:14:29,048
at 40 years old...
1302
01:14:29,131 --> 01:14:31,217
The fact that she has this voice,
1303
01:14:31,300 --> 01:14:33,427
this incredible, incredible voice,
1304
01:14:33,761 --> 01:14:36,013
I would say the industry
didn't even really know
1305
01:14:36,097 --> 01:14:37,390
what to do with-
1306
01:14:38,724 --> 01:14:41,185
- Roger could see what could be done
1307
01:14:41,268 --> 01:14:42,937
when other people couldn't imagine
1308
01:14:43,020 --> 01:14:44,271
what it could become-
1309
01:14:44,355 --> 01:14:45,606
So there's this new
1310
01:14:45,690 --> 01:14:47,733
kind of production technique in England.
1311
01:14:47,817 --> 01:14:50,361
There are these new people
that are getting new sounds,
1312
01:14:50,444 --> 01:14:52,113
and you should be part of that.
1313
01:14:52,196 --> 01:14:54,407
♪ ♪
1314
01:14:54,490 --> 01:14:56,075
- I was collecting songs-
1315
01:14:56,158 --> 01:14:57,785
I used to carry around this leather bag
1316
01:14:57,868 --> 01:15:00,413
full of cassettes and
asking a bunch of people
1317
01:15:00,496 --> 01:15:02,289
and, you know, Terry Britten,
1318
01:15:02,373 --> 01:15:04,291
he was a bit of a hero of mine,
1319
01:15:04,375 --> 01:15:07,586
and he had songs I
think might work for Tina.
1320
01:15:08,462 --> 01:15:09,547
- Roger's tea.
1321
01:15:13,259 --> 01:15:14,927
- "What's Love" is
probably the worst demo
1322
01:15:15,011 --> 01:15:16,971
I've ever done to this date.
1323
01:15:17,054 --> 01:15:19,515
I mean, there's no, uh...
1324
01:15:19,598 --> 01:15:21,267
bee-doo-bee-doo... none of that stuff.
1325
01:15:21,350 --> 01:15:23,978
Very white, very pop,
1326
01:15:24,061 --> 01:15:28,357
and nothing remotely
would say "Tina Turner."
1327
01:15:29,692 --> 01:15:31,277
Originally, it did go
1328
01:15:31,360 --> 01:15:33,779
to an English band called Bucks Fizz,
1329
01:15:33,904 --> 01:15:35,990
who were really popular at the time,
1330
01:15:36,073 --> 01:15:37,825
and I think they actually recorded it.
1331
01:15:37,908 --> 01:15:40,327
- ♪ Oh, oh, oh, what's love ♪
1332
01:15:40,661 --> 01:15:43,289
♪ Got to do, got to do with it? ♪
1333
01:15:44,165 --> 01:15:48,127
♪ What's love but a
second-hand emotion? ♪
1334
01:15:48,961 --> 01:15:52,048
- I was convinced. I
thought "What's Love" was...
1335
01:15:52,339 --> 01:15:54,050
It could be a big song.
1336
01:15:54,842 --> 01:15:56,635
Tina never really liked it.
1337
01:15:56,969 --> 01:15:59,388
- It was terrible.
- It was awful.
1338
01:15:59,472 --> 01:16:01,140
It was...
1339
01:16:01,223 --> 01:16:03,309
I was rock and roll.
1340
01:16:03,392 --> 01:16:04,977
I was not...
1341
01:16:05,478 --> 01:16:07,188
That was a pop song.
1342
01:16:08,147 --> 01:16:10,274
"So Roger says," All
right, all right, all right.
1343
01:16:10,357 --> 01:16:12,109
"Just one thing... You
got to meet Terry Britten.
1344
01:16:12,193 --> 01:16:13,861
"You got to meet him,
'cause he's a great writer,
1345
01:16:13,944 --> 01:16:15,446
and maybe he can make
some adjustments or whatever,"
1346
01:16:15,529 --> 01:16:16,697
and I went, "All right-"
1347
01:16:16,781 --> 01:16:18,699
♪ ♪
1348
01:16:18,783 --> 01:16:21,494
We walked in, and I
didn't know what to expect.
1349
01:16:21,619 --> 01:16:23,454
And Terry was like a little leprechaun.
1350
01:16:23,537 --> 01:16:25,289
I mean, he's very short.
1351
01:16:25,372 --> 01:16:27,249
He was sitting there,
and his legs were hanging.
1352
01:16:27,333 --> 01:16:29,710
Something about his legs hanging
1353
01:16:29,794 --> 01:16:30,920
that I remember.
1354
01:16:31,003 --> 01:16:33,089
- She came in, and immediately she said,
1355
01:16:33,172 --> 01:16:34,757
"Well, you know I don't like that song,
1356
01:16:34,840 --> 01:16:36,592
"and I don't want to do that song.
1357
01:16:36,675 --> 01:16:38,375
It's Roger that wants me to do it."
1358
01:16:38,677 --> 01:16:40,930
I said, "Well, you know,
if it doesn't work out,
1359
01:16:41,013 --> 01:16:43,140
you won't use it, so let's give it a go."
1360
01:16:47,436 --> 01:16:50,314
- I had to find a way to sing
the song, so he would say,
1361
01:16:50,397 --> 01:16:53,109
"Tina, sing this how you would sing it."
1362
01:16:53,192 --> 01:16:54,443
So, okay.
1363
01:16:54,652 --> 01:16:58,197
Then I applied my
heavy voice to it, and...
1364
01:16:58,864 --> 01:17:00,157
♪ Makes my pulse react ♪
1365
01:17:00,241 --> 01:17:01,992
- She was trying to
get her head around it,
1366
01:17:02,076 --> 01:17:04,328
how's this little...
doop-dih-dih-dih work
1367
01:17:04,411 --> 01:17:05,913
sort of thing,
1368
01:17:05,996 --> 01:17:09,125
and I said to her, "Tina, this is a jog."
1369
01:17:09,458 --> 01:17:12,670
And we both stood and jogged.
1370
01:17:12,753 --> 01:17:15,923
And she was singing loud,
and I went, "Quieter, quiet..."
1371
01:17:16,006 --> 01:17:18,884
She said, "If I go any
quieter, I'll be whispering."
1372
01:17:18,968 --> 01:17:22,054
I said, "Yeah, that's it,"
and we start to jog on this.
1373
01:17:22,138 --> 01:17:25,516
Suddenly she went,
"I got it, I got it, I got it."
1374
01:17:25,599 --> 01:17:28,185
- ♪ Oh, oh, oh, what's love ♪
1375
01:17:28,269 --> 01:17:31,021
♪ Got to do, got to do with it? ♪
1376
01:17:31,897 --> 01:17:36,610
♪ What's love but a
second-hand emotion? ♪
1377
01:17:36,694 --> 01:17:39,113
♪ What's love got to do ♪
1378
01:17:39,196 --> 01:17:40,948
♪ Got to do with it? ♪
1379
01:17:41,031 --> 01:17:42,783
♪ Who needs a heart ♪
1380
01:17:42,867 --> 01:17:45,661
♪ When a heart can be broken? ♪
1381
01:17:46,036 --> 01:17:48,747
- I was stunned
afterwards, after the session.
1382
01:17:49,415 --> 01:17:51,792
- They weren't used to a strong voice
1383
01:17:51,876 --> 01:17:53,419
standing on top of music.
1384
01:17:53,586 --> 01:17:56,255
But I converted it and made it my own.
1385
01:17:56,338 --> 01:18:00,134
♪ If I tend to look dazed,
I read it some place ♪
1386
01:18:00,217 --> 01:18:02,511
♪ I've got cause to be ♪
1387
01:18:02,595 --> 01:18:05,181
♪ There's a name for it ♪
1388
01:18:05,472 --> 01:18:07,349
"- She said," You know
what? People are gonna say,
1389
01:18:07,433 --> 01:18:08,976
"'This is a Tina Turner song-
1390
01:18:09,059 --> 01:18:11,270
"'It's not Tina doing a cover-
1391
01:18:11,896 --> 01:18:13,346
This is Tina Turner's song.'"
1392
01:18:13,439 --> 01:18:16,859
- ♪ But whatever the
reason, you do it for me ♪
1393
01:18:16,942 --> 01:18:19,695
♪ Oh, oh, oh, what's love ♪
1394
01:18:19,778 --> 01:18:21,780
♪ Got to do, got to do with it? ♪
1395
01:18:21,864 --> 01:18:24,414
I knocked that album out
in two weeks in the studio.
1396
01:18:24,950 --> 01:18:26,994
Done-Finished-
1397
01:18:27,870 --> 01:18:30,247
- We just went from studio to studio,
1398
01:18:30,331 --> 01:18:32,666
and, literally, two or three
weeks, the album was done.
1399
01:18:32,750 --> 01:18:35,377
We turned up with an album
that sold 20 million copies.
1400
01:18:35,461 --> 01:18:37,463
- ♪ ... Can be broken? ♪
1401
01:18:37,838 --> 01:18:40,090
- When the album was out
and we were in New York
1402
01:18:40,174 --> 01:18:43,385
at Tower Records doing a record signing,
1403
01:18:43,552 --> 01:18:46,472
and I got the call from
our record company
1404
01:18:46,555 --> 01:18:49,355
that "What's Love" had gone
to number one on "Billboard."
1405
01:18:49,725 --> 01:18:51,644
- In Tower Record?
- This was in Tower Records.
1406
01:18:51,727 --> 01:18:53,270
And I just jumped up,
and I said to everybody,
1407
01:18:53,354 --> 01:18:55,439
"It's number one," and
they all started cheering.
1408
01:18:55,522 --> 01:18:57,691
It was wonderful- - You
know when you said that,
1409
01:18:57,775 --> 01:18:59,318
I honestly have to tell
you... I know it's gonna
1410
01:18:59,401 --> 01:19:01,445
sound real corny, but I mean
it... when I saw you say that
1411
01:19:01,528 --> 01:19:03,030
last night that this
went number one today,
1412
01:19:03,113 --> 01:19:04,782
I just, like, burst into tears,
1413
01:19:04,865 --> 01:19:07,201
because to me, it was like,
1414
01:19:07,284 --> 01:19:09,328
there is some justice after all.
1415
01:19:09,411 --> 01:19:11,121
I don't know if you
feel that way about it,
1416
01:19:11,205 --> 01:19:13,791
but it was very moving- - Oh, number one.
1417
01:19:14,583 --> 01:19:17,211
♪ Oh, oh, oh, what's love ♪
1418
01:19:17,294 --> 01:19:19,797
♪ Got to do, got to do with it? ♪
1419
01:19:20,839 --> 01:19:22,383
♪ What's love ♪
1420
01:19:22,466 --> 01:19:25,052
♪ But a second-hand emotion? ♪
1421
01:19:25,594 --> 01:19:27,972
♪ What's love got to do ♪
1422
01:19:28,055 --> 01:19:29,473
♪ Got to do with it? ♪
1423
01:19:29,807 --> 01:19:31,976
♪ Who needs a heart ♪
1424
01:19:32,059 --> 01:19:34,144
♪ When a heart can be broken? ♪
1425
01:19:34,228 --> 01:19:36,563
♪ What's love got to do ♪
1426
01:19:36,647 --> 01:19:39,108
- ♪ Ooh, ooh ♪
- And the record of the year
1427
01:19:39,149 --> 01:19:41,649
is, "What's Love Got To
Do With It"... Tina Turner!
1428
01:19:54,081 --> 01:19:56,625
- My goodness, this has
been a wonderful evening.
1429
01:19:56,709 --> 01:19:59,128
I'd like to take this award
1430
01:19:59,962 --> 01:20:02,589
and give it to someone that's been
1431
01:20:02,673 --> 01:20:05,050
wonderful to me as a friend
1432
01:20:05,259 --> 01:20:07,886
and in business and in many ways...
1433
01:20:07,970 --> 01:20:09,763
My manager, Roger Davies.
1434
01:20:09,847 --> 01:20:12,891
It's been a wonderful year.
1435
01:20:16,145 --> 01:20:17,855
- My "Private Dancer" album...
1436
01:20:17,938 --> 01:20:19,940
No, I don't consider it a comeback album.
1437
01:20:20,024 --> 01:20:22,359
Tina had never arrived-
1438
01:20:22,443 --> 01:20:25,195
It was Tina's debut for the first time,
1439
01:20:25,279 --> 01:20:27,114
and this was my first album-
1440
01:20:27,656 --> 01:20:29,325
- Tina Turner!
1441
01:20:30,326 --> 01:20:32,411
- Tina Turner!
1442
01:20:36,874 --> 01:20:38,709
- They'd reached a stage where,
1443
01:20:38,792 --> 01:20:41,962
after "Private Dancer,"
it was unbelievably big.
1444
01:20:42,963 --> 01:20:45,090
It was a runaway train-
1445
01:20:45,841 --> 01:20:49,094
- When you're hot, you're
hot, and this lady is the hottest.
1446
01:20:49,178 --> 01:20:50,721
Here's...
- Tina Turner!
1447
01:20:53,515 --> 01:20:55,142
- I had my boyfriend standing in line
1448
01:20:55,184 --> 01:20:56,685
since 3 in the morning
to get these tickets.
1449
01:20:56,727 --> 01:20:58,020
I says, "That's it,
the relationship's over
1450
01:20:58,103 --> 01:20:59,730
unless you get me these tickets."
1451
01:20:59,813 --> 01:21:01,523
- And if she isn't sexy,
I don't know who is.
1452
01:21:01,607 --> 01:21:03,734
Tina Turner.
1453
01:21:03,817 --> 01:21:05,194
- Stupenda, stupenda-
1454
01:21:08,739 --> 01:21:12,034
Tina Turner.
1455
01:21:12,743 --> 01:21:14,870
- On "Private Dancer," I
think we ended up doing
1456
01:21:14,953 --> 01:21:16,622
150 concerts-
1457
01:21:19,166 --> 01:21:21,251
And then we went on to break every rule.
1458
01:21:23,337 --> 01:21:26,048
On that album, we did the
biggest tour we've ever done.
1459
01:21:26,465 --> 01:21:29,676
We played 230 shows in 18 months
1460
01:21:29,760 --> 01:21:31,303
everywhere in the world-
1461
01:21:32,012 --> 01:21:34,431
♪ ♪
1462
01:21:34,598 --> 01:21:38,602
This 50-year-old woman playing stadiums
1463
01:21:38,685 --> 01:21:40,854
throughout Europe and having an audience
1464
01:21:40,938 --> 01:21:44,066
ranging from about 15
to 60 was pretty amazing.
1465
01:21:44,149 --> 01:21:45,943
- She makes you feel young.
1466
01:21:46,026 --> 01:21:47,653
She's alive-She's bouncing.
1467
01:21:47,778 --> 01:21:49,528
I can't wait for them to come back.
1468
01:21:50,906 --> 01:21:53,534
- When I'm onstage and
it's, like, 20,000 people,
1469
01:21:53,617 --> 01:21:55,869
then you know that it's
all worthwhile, you know?
1470
01:21:55,953 --> 01:21:58,080
But it's really a lot that
goes on behind the scenes
1471
01:21:58,163 --> 01:21:59,456
when... I've never been this big before,
1472
01:21:59,540 --> 01:22:00,958
you know what I mean? And you...
1473
01:22:01,041 --> 01:22:02,960
Ah, it's just incredible-
1474
01:22:03,377 --> 01:22:04,670
- We didn't stop-
1475
01:22:05,087 --> 01:22:07,714
We played the small
holes- We played the clubs.
1476
01:22:07,840 --> 01:22:10,259
We did all the TVs-We got to arenas.
1477
01:22:10,342 --> 01:22:11,844
We eventually fulfilled her dream
1478
01:22:11,927 --> 01:22:13,846
and filled the stadiums-
1479
01:22:14,388 --> 01:22:16,598
That concert in Rio,
1480
01:22:16,765 --> 01:22:18,976
there was 186,000 people there.
1481
01:22:21,228 --> 01:22:24,148
Tina, Tina, Tina, Tina, Tina, Tina!
1482
01:22:24,231 --> 01:22:25,941
- Hello, Rio!
1483
01:22:28,360 --> 01:22:29,611
Give it to me!
1484
01:22:29,695 --> 01:22:30,988
Hello, Rio!
1485
01:22:34,199 --> 01:22:36,243
Mwah! Mwah! Mwah!
1486
01:22:37,578 --> 01:22:39,288
You can't imagine what it was like for me
1487
01:22:39,371 --> 01:22:41,331
to finally stand there in
front of all of those people.
1488
01:22:41,415 --> 01:22:43,417
It's a feeling of like, "I did it,"
1489
01:22:43,500 --> 01:22:45,461
and it's really genuine-
1490
01:22:45,544 --> 01:22:47,963
It's almost like magic,
because you're standing there
1491
01:22:48,046 --> 01:22:50,132
and they're really giving you love.
1492
01:22:50,841 --> 01:22:52,301
Are you ready?
1493
01:22:52,384 --> 01:22:54,720
Are you ready for me?
1494
01:22:56,472 --> 01:22:58,682
I'm ready for you. Hello!
1495
01:23:01,435 --> 01:23:05,814
♪ ♪
1496
01:23:18,827 --> 01:23:20,120
♪ I ♪
1497
01:23:20,204 --> 01:23:23,081
♪ I can't stand the rain ♪
1498
01:23:23,665 --> 01:23:25,751
♪ Against my window ♪
1499
01:23:27,920 --> 01:23:30,547
♪ Bringing back sweet memories ♪
1500
01:23:31,089 --> 01:23:33,425
♪ I can't stand the rain ♪
1501
01:23:33,509 --> 01:23:35,219
♪ Do you remember ♪
1502
01:23:35,928 --> 01:23:37,346
♪ Uh-huh ♪
1503
01:23:37,846 --> 01:23:39,681
♪ How sweet it used to be? ♪
1504
01:23:40,849 --> 01:23:42,935
♪ ♪
1505
01:23:43,519 --> 01:23:45,979
♪ When we were together ♪
1506
01:23:46,063 --> 01:23:47,898
♪ ♪
1507
01:23:48,357 --> 01:23:51,360
♪ Everything was so grand ♪
1508
01:23:51,443 --> 01:23:53,529
♪ ♪
1509
01:23:54,071 --> 01:23:56,698
♪ Now that we've parted ♪
1510
01:23:57,616 --> 01:23:59,952
♪ There's the one sound ♪
- ♪ One sound ♪
1511
01:24:00,452 --> 01:24:02,120
- ♪ Just can't stand ♪
1512
01:24:02,496 --> 01:24:04,289
♪ Can't stand the rain ♪
1513
01:24:05,415 --> 01:24:07,167
♪ Against my window ♪
1514
01:24:07,417 --> 01:24:09,628
♪ ♪
1515
01:24:09,795 --> 01:24:11,797
♪ Bringing back sweet memories ♪
1516
01:24:12,756 --> 01:24:14,466
♪ I can't stand the rain ♪
1517
01:24:16,093 --> 01:24:18,011
♪ Against my window ♪
1518
01:24:18,095 --> 01:24:20,389
♪ ♪
1519
01:24:20,472 --> 01:24:22,266
♪ If he ain't here with me ♪
1520
01:24:23,392 --> 01:24:24,560
♪ Well ♪
1521
01:24:25,894 --> 01:24:28,981
♪ When we were younger ♪
1522
01:24:29,064 --> 01:24:31,024
- ♪ We were younger ♪
1523
01:24:31,108 --> 01:24:33,860
- ♪ Everything was so grand ♪
1524
01:24:33,944 --> 01:24:35,529
- ♪ Oh ♪
1525
01:24:36,446 --> 01:24:37,614
- ♪ Ah ♪
1526
01:24:37,948 --> 01:24:40,033
♪ Bringing back them sweet memories ♪
1527
01:24:40,659 --> 01:24:42,244
♪ One sound ♪
- ♪ One sound ♪
1528
01:24:42,327 --> 01:24:44,913
- ♪ I just can't stand ♪
1529
01:24:44,997 --> 01:24:46,832
♪ Rain ♪
- ♪ Rain ♪
1530
01:24:47,583 --> 01:24:49,543
- ♪ Rain ♪
- ♪ Rain ♪
1531
01:24:50,085 --> 01:24:51,795
- ♪ Rain ♪
- ♪ Rain ♪
1532
01:24:52,838 --> 01:24:55,090
- ♪ Rain ♪
- ♪ Whoo-hoo ♪
1533
01:25:01,930 --> 01:25:03,098
Thank you!
1534
01:25:35,505 --> 01:25:38,717
- In 1985, she signed on to
do the third "Mad Max" movie,
1535
01:25:38,800 --> 01:25:40,344
"Beyond Thunderdome-"
1536
01:25:40,427 --> 01:25:42,137
"Rolling Stone" sent me in to cover this.
1537
01:25:42,220 --> 01:25:44,170
I said, "Great, I'd love to cover this."
1538
01:25:45,098 --> 01:25:47,392
She was the biggest
pop star in the world.
1539
01:25:47,684 --> 01:25:50,103
I mean, it was already clear
there were gonna be people
1540
01:25:50,187 --> 01:25:51,980
doing these quickie bios of Tina Turner,
1541
01:25:52,064 --> 01:25:53,482
which I thought was really tacky.
1542
01:25:53,565 --> 01:25:55,233
So I got over there, I talked to Roger,
1543
01:25:55,317 --> 01:25:58,236
I said, "You know, maybe
you should have someone"
1544
01:25:58,320 --> 01:26:01,114
"do a book, you know,
do an actual biography.
1545
01:26:01,198 --> 01:26:03,659
And could be me. I
mean, could be anybody."
1546
01:26:03,742 --> 01:26:05,327
You know? I don't want to be pushy.
1547
01:26:05,410 --> 01:26:06,953
- You pitched that?
- Oh, yeah.
1548
01:26:07,037 --> 01:26:10,207
Well, I brought up the
possibility of doing something
1549
01:26:10,290 --> 01:26:13,168
to forestall all these bad
books that would be coming out.
1550
01:26:14,002 --> 01:26:16,630
- When she became successful,
1551
01:26:16,797 --> 01:26:19,549
the past came up,
and it got a lot of press,
1552
01:26:19,633 --> 01:26:22,260
'cause she was also hugely popular.
1553
01:26:22,344 --> 01:26:24,638
People continued to ask about Ike.
1554
01:26:24,721 --> 01:26:27,265
Even after she had had huge solo success,
1555
01:26:27,349 --> 01:26:29,101
they'd bring up the same old stuff
1556
01:26:29,184 --> 01:26:30,894
over and over in every interview.
1557
01:26:30,977 --> 01:26:32,187
We couldn't stop it.
1558
01:26:32,270 --> 01:26:33,730
- Ike was arrested
1559
01:26:33,814 --> 01:26:36,817
on some cocaine charges in Pasadena.
1560
01:26:36,900 --> 01:26:38,193
- Oh.
- Yeah, for possession
1561
01:26:38,276 --> 01:26:41,530
and conspiracy, possibly for dealing.
1562
01:26:42,114 --> 01:26:44,157
Any reaction to that?
1563
01:26:44,241 --> 01:26:47,661
- You know, I'd like to
hear all positive things.
1564
01:26:47,744 --> 01:26:49,788
I'd love to hear that
Ike had a record deal
1565
01:26:49,871 --> 01:26:52,124
and he was producing an album on himself.
1566
01:26:56,336 --> 01:26:57,504
- Right-
1567
01:27:11,977 --> 01:27:13,311
Yeah-
1568
01:27:16,940 --> 01:27:18,567
- I think, as she said at the time,
1569
01:27:18,650 --> 01:27:20,402
"I can do this and not
have to talk about it again."
1570
01:27:20,485 --> 01:27:22,112
"Everybody's talking about it.
1571
01:27:22,195 --> 01:27:24,406
"Everybody has this idea
about it, it's this or that.
1572
01:27:24,489 --> 01:27:26,241
"I know what happened-
I'll say what happened,
1573
01:27:26,324 --> 01:27:28,243
and I won't have to address it again."
1574
01:27:29,369 --> 01:27:31,663
- A long line of fans waited outside
1575
01:27:31,747 --> 01:27:33,749
a Barnes & Noble bookstore for Tina.
1576
01:27:33,832 --> 01:27:36,460
The soulful singer is now also an author,
1577
01:27:36,543 --> 01:27:38,462
and she was in town, anxious and willing
1578
01:27:38,545 --> 01:27:40,589
to autograph a few hundred copies.
1579
01:27:40,672 --> 01:27:42,758
- It was worth getting
sweaty, going up there,
1580
01:27:42,841 --> 01:27:44,634
pushing people, getting them out the way,
1581
01:27:44,718 --> 01:27:46,136
seeing Tina Turner... I love her.
1582
01:27:46,219 --> 01:27:47,637
What's love got to do with it?
1583
01:27:47,721 --> 01:27:50,390
- Tina's book, by the
way, tracing her rise
1584
01:27:50,474 --> 01:27:53,310
and fall and rise
again is titled "I, Tina."
1585
01:27:54,686 --> 01:27:57,189
- It was a top ten "New
York Times" bestseller
1586
01:27:57,272 --> 01:27:59,149
strictly because of Tina Turner.
1587
01:27:59,232 --> 01:28:00,859
I mean, they could put an empty book out
1588
01:28:00,942 --> 01:28:03,742
with her picture on the cover-
That book would have sold.
1589
01:28:04,279 --> 01:28:07,783
- She just felt maybe it'll put it to bed
1590
01:28:07,866 --> 01:28:09,493
once and for all,
1591
01:28:09,576 --> 01:28:10,911
which, of course, it didn't-
1592
01:28:10,994 --> 01:28:12,287
It just made it bigger-
1593
01:28:12,370 --> 01:28:14,372
- Albuquerque, New Mexico-Hello.
1594
01:28:14,456 --> 01:28:16,124
- I read your book,
1595
01:28:16,208 --> 01:28:18,126
and it's totally changed my life.
1596
01:28:18,210 --> 01:28:20,337
I love you-I thank you.
1597
01:28:21,505 --> 01:28:24,382
- That story reached so many people
1598
01:28:24,591 --> 01:28:27,427
who felt like they had to
kind of keep their secrets
1599
01:28:27,511 --> 01:28:28,678
locked away deep down.
1600
01:28:29,554 --> 01:28:31,890
But then I wonder, I think of, like...
1601
01:28:31,973 --> 01:28:34,434
It's like a Pandora's
Box situation, right?
1602
01:28:34,518 --> 01:28:36,668
Like, "Damn, I got to
tell the story again?"
1603
01:28:41,233 --> 01:28:43,652
- And then the film came out
1604
01:28:43,735 --> 01:28:47,197
and just kind of brought
more attention to her name
1605
01:28:47,656 --> 01:28:50,617
for people to see what
happened and everything.
1606
01:28:50,700 --> 01:28:52,494
- What'd you say?
- Don't start with me.
1607
01:28:52,577 --> 01:28:54,496
I ain't in the mood today, all right?
1608
01:28:54,621 --> 01:28:56,456
- It's tangible in a
sense. You're watching it.
1609
01:28:56,540 --> 01:28:58,291
- I'll give up all that other stuff
1610
01:28:58,375 --> 01:29:00,126
but only if I get to keep my name.
1611
01:29:00,210 --> 01:29:02,212
I worked too hard for it, Your Honor.
1612
01:29:02,587 --> 01:29:04,881
- And it just changed everything for her.
1613
01:29:06,258 --> 01:29:08,510
- That role changed my life-
1614
01:29:09,511 --> 01:29:11,388
I mean, I'm not Tina,
1615
01:29:11,471 --> 01:29:15,267
and I've got so much love
1616
01:29:15,350 --> 01:29:17,978
from others... men, women...
Who've come up and say,
1617
01:29:18,061 --> 01:29:21,022
"You playing her in that
story changed my life."
1618
01:29:23,525 --> 01:29:25,944
- The story goes out
into people's houses,
1619
01:29:26,027 --> 01:29:29,114
and then it becomes a
part of their life as well.
1620
01:29:29,197 --> 01:29:31,366
- It's Tina Day!
1621
01:29:31,449 --> 01:29:33,159
Whoo!
1622
01:29:33,243 --> 01:29:35,412
♪ ♪
1623
01:29:35,495 --> 01:29:38,206
- It's hard to wrap your mind around
1624
01:29:38,290 --> 01:29:40,250
that your life has been an inspiration...
1625
01:29:40,333 --> 01:29:41,751
Maybe the worst parts of your life
1626
01:29:41,835 --> 01:29:43,545
has been an inspiration-
1627
01:29:43,670 --> 01:29:46,464
- We have 50,000 letters
downstairs from women
1628
01:29:46,548 --> 01:29:49,134
who have also been
through it and survived.
1629
01:29:49,217 --> 01:29:50,844
Tina did it. So can you.
1630
01:29:50,927 --> 01:29:52,220
Let's celebrate.
1631
01:29:57,142 --> 01:29:59,352
- She's no longer in
control of that story.
1632
01:29:59,436 --> 01:30:01,521
That's what happens to icons-
1633
01:30:02,689 --> 01:30:05,400
Anna Mae Bullock has her own life.
1634
01:30:05,692 --> 01:30:08,028
Tina Turner belongs to the world.
1635
01:30:13,992 --> 01:30:18,830
♪ ♪
1636
01:30:23,960 --> 01:30:25,921
- Ms. Turner, welcome to Venice.
1637
01:30:26,004 --> 01:30:28,381
Can you give me your views on the film?
1638
01:30:29,132 --> 01:30:31,843
- Well, I haven't as yet seen the film.
1639
01:30:35,555 --> 01:30:36,723
Well...
1640
01:30:37,891 --> 01:30:41,561
I'm not so thrilled about
thinking about the past
1641
01:30:41,645 --> 01:30:43,188
and how I lived my life.
1642
01:30:43,271 --> 01:30:46,441
It was made a story.
1643
01:30:46,524 --> 01:30:48,985
The story was actually written
1644
01:30:49,069 --> 01:30:51,780
so that I would no longer
have to discuss the issue.
1645
01:30:51,863 --> 01:30:54,699
I don't love that it's always
talked about, you see?
1646
01:30:54,783 --> 01:30:58,578
I made a point of just putting
the news out to stop the thing
1647
01:30:58,662 --> 01:31:00,705
so that I could go on with my life.
1648
01:31:00,789 --> 01:31:04,000
And this constant reminder
is not so good, you know.
1649
01:31:04,084 --> 01:31:06,127
I'm not so happy about it.
1650
01:31:06,211 --> 01:31:08,672
So do I want to sit and screen
1651
01:31:08,755 --> 01:31:11,049
and watch the violence
and all the brutality?
1652
01:31:11,132 --> 01:31:12,968
No. That's why I haven't seen it.
1653
01:31:17,931 --> 01:31:20,141
- You know, when you talk to journalists
1654
01:31:20,225 --> 01:31:23,812
over and over for 20 or 30 or 40 years,
1655
01:31:23,895 --> 01:31:26,022
memories come back-
1656
01:31:26,106 --> 01:31:29,150
She has partly dreams about it.
1657
01:31:29,234 --> 01:31:30,735
They're not pleasant.
1658
01:31:30,819 --> 01:31:32,362
So I think these are these things
1659
01:31:32,445 --> 01:31:35,198
that come back to her
when she opens that book.
1660
01:31:35,573 --> 01:31:39,119
It's like when soldiers
come back from the war.
1661
01:31:39,452 --> 01:31:42,539
It's not a easy time to...
1662
01:31:42,622 --> 01:31:45,375
To have this in your
memory, and they try to forget.
1663
01:31:45,458 --> 01:31:47,335
I see it a little bit like that.
1664
01:31:47,919 --> 01:31:50,171
- Tina today is a world superstar.
1665
01:31:50,255 --> 01:31:52,257
But there was a point
where you had to become
1666
01:31:52,340 --> 01:31:53,967
the comeback kid.
1667
01:31:54,050 --> 01:31:55,719
How did you get the strength
1668
01:31:55,802 --> 01:31:57,678
to get out of that situation with Ike?
1669
01:31:57,762 --> 01:32:00,682
- Oh, we are gonna
talk about him, aren't we?
1670
01:32:02,600 --> 01:32:04,978
- Okay. I need my fan
now. I just had a flush.
1671
01:32:07,731 --> 01:32:09,566
How did I get out of that situation?
1672
01:32:09,649 --> 01:32:11,151
Let me figure out how
I can talk about that
1673
01:32:11,234 --> 01:32:12,569
in two seconds.
1674
01:32:12,652 --> 01:32:14,404
- No, no, I know how to get out of it.
1675
01:32:14,487 --> 01:32:16,781
I'm just gonna say something.
1676
01:32:16,865 --> 01:32:18,700
Give me two seconds here.
1677
01:32:19,242 --> 01:32:21,286
You don't want to think
about those times, you know.
1678
01:32:21,369 --> 01:32:23,580
You want it to just go away-
1679
01:32:23,705 --> 01:32:25,623
But if you're gonna
keep bringing it up...
1680
01:32:25,707 --> 01:32:28,668
The brain is saying, "Oh,
you want to remember that."
1681
01:32:30,378 --> 01:32:33,256
That scene comes back-
1682
01:32:33,381 --> 01:32:36,968
You're dreaming- The
real picture is there.
1683
01:32:37,052 --> 01:32:39,888
It's like a curse-
1684
01:32:43,183 --> 01:32:45,810
- You raised a son by
him, a son by another man,
1685
01:32:45,894 --> 01:32:48,271
and two of Ike's kids by other women.
1686
01:32:48,354 --> 01:32:50,982
There were always other
women on the scene.
1687
01:32:51,066 --> 01:32:53,026
What was that like for you?
1688
01:32:53,109 --> 01:32:54,861
- When you were married to Ike,
1689
01:32:54,944 --> 01:32:57,447
what was the absolutely worst moment?
1690
01:32:58,073 --> 01:33:00,533
- What do you think
attracts women to bad men?
1691
01:33:00,950 --> 01:33:02,535
- Is there a real low,
1692
01:33:02,619 --> 01:33:04,537
like something you'd love to forget?
1693
01:33:04,871 --> 01:33:07,040
- And, of course, the book
and the movie features
1694
01:33:07,123 --> 01:33:09,626
your allegations about his bashings.
1695
01:33:09,709 --> 01:33:11,169
Tell me about that-
1696
01:33:11,252 --> 01:33:13,129
- I'm past it-
1697
01:33:13,213 --> 01:33:15,757
It's been 16 years since
I haven't been with Ike,
1698
01:33:15,840 --> 01:33:17,801
and the movie and the
book is bringing me back
1699
01:33:17,884 --> 01:33:20,553
to the past of something
that was really awful.
1700
01:33:20,637 --> 01:33:22,472
My life is wonderful at the moment.
1701
01:33:22,555 --> 01:33:23,765
I'm a happy person now,
1702
01:33:23,848 --> 01:33:27,018
and I don't dwell on unhappiness.
1703
01:33:30,188 --> 01:33:32,482
♪ ♪
1704
01:33:32,649 --> 01:33:34,359
- The trauma's still so deep
1705
01:33:34,442 --> 01:33:36,444
that to go back there makes you feel
1706
01:33:36,528 --> 01:33:38,488
like you're actually going back.
1707
01:33:39,864 --> 01:33:42,992
If you don't address
the wounds of your past,
1708
01:33:43,076 --> 01:33:44,953
you continue to bleed-
1709
01:33:45,036 --> 01:33:48,498
♪ ♪
1710
01:33:48,623 --> 01:33:50,333
- You know, she just...
She always had the feeling
1711
01:33:50,416 --> 01:33:52,085
that she wasn't loved...
1712
01:33:52,210 --> 01:33:55,922
She wasn't... you know,
she wasn't a wanted child.
1713
01:33:56,256 --> 01:33:59,384
♪ ♪
1714
01:33:59,509 --> 01:34:02,512
I think with her
mom, I think that's still
1715
01:34:02,595 --> 01:34:05,932
the dramatization
of being left as a child
1716
01:34:06,015 --> 01:34:07,767
that never left-
1717
01:34:08,101 --> 01:34:13,106
♪ ♪
1718
01:34:15,400 --> 01:34:17,193
- Ma was...
1719
01:34:17,277 --> 01:34:18,695
Not kind-
1720
01:34:20,196 --> 01:34:22,198
When I became a star,
1721
01:34:22,282 --> 01:34:23,950
of course, like, then she was happy
1722
01:34:24,033 --> 01:34:25,869
because I bought her a house.
1723
01:34:25,952 --> 01:34:27,787
I did all kinds of things for her.
1724
01:34:27,871 --> 01:34:29,205
She was my mother-
1725
01:34:29,455 --> 01:34:31,833
You know, I was trying
to make her comfortable
1726
01:34:31,916 --> 01:34:33,543
because she didn't have a husband.
1727
01:34:33,626 --> 01:34:34,627
She was alone-
1728
01:34:34,711 --> 01:34:37,255
But she still didn't like me-
1729
01:34:38,840 --> 01:34:41,384
Even after I became Tina,
1730
01:34:41,467 --> 01:34:44,053
Ma still was a little
bit, "Who did that?"
1731
01:34:44,137 --> 01:34:45,346
Or, "Who did this?"
1732
01:34:45,388 --> 01:34:46,556
And I said, "I did it, Ma."
1733
01:34:46,639 --> 01:34:49,267
You know, I was happy to
show my mother what I did.
1734
01:34:49,350 --> 01:34:51,769
I had a house, I had gotten a car,
1735
01:34:51,853 --> 01:34:53,521
and she said, "I don't believe it.
1736
01:34:53,605 --> 01:34:55,899
You're my daughter. I know you didn't..."
1737
01:34:55,982 --> 01:34:58,067
Something to this effect.
1738
01:34:59,277 --> 01:35:00,904
Yeah, she...
1739
01:35:03,198 --> 01:35:05,200
She didn't want... she didn't want me,
1740
01:35:05,283 --> 01:35:06,993
she didn't want to be around me,
1741
01:35:07,076 --> 01:35:09,287
even though she wanted my success.
1742
01:35:09,370 --> 01:35:11,414
But I did for her...
1743
01:35:11,831 --> 01:35:14,417
As if she loved me-
1744
01:35:17,879 --> 01:35:21,174
- She's had a few kind of
ups and downs in her life
1745
01:35:21,257 --> 01:35:24,719
as well, it hasn't been all happy.
1746
01:35:24,802 --> 01:35:26,638
- Right.
- Um...
1747
01:35:27,847 --> 01:35:29,557
when she's unhappy,
1748
01:35:29,641 --> 01:35:31,476
how does she deal with it?
1749
01:35:34,646 --> 01:35:37,106
- I would say she...
1750
01:35:40,735 --> 01:35:44,364
She did a great job of
dealing with it because...
1751
01:35:45,114 --> 01:35:47,242
she would figure out the problem
1752
01:35:47,325 --> 01:35:49,035
and how to handle it.
1753
01:35:51,746 --> 01:35:54,290
- Would she kind of come
running home to you crying?
1754
01:35:54,374 --> 01:35:55,667
- No, no, no.
1755
01:35:55,750 --> 01:35:58,336
No, she figured that out on her own.
1756
01:35:58,920 --> 01:36:01,422
- Have you had any particularly...
1757
01:36:01,798 --> 01:36:04,717
any particular moments
that you were really proud of?
1758
01:36:07,887 --> 01:36:12,475
- Well, I've been proud of her
ever since she started singing.
1759
01:36:12,558 --> 01:36:14,477
But it's, like...
1760
01:36:15,436 --> 01:36:17,689
a person... some people's
1761
01:36:17,772 --> 01:36:19,565
afraid to climb a ladder
1762
01:36:19,649 --> 01:36:22,026
unless someone's holding it.
1763
01:36:22,819 --> 01:36:24,404
But she's not.
1764
01:36:24,487 --> 01:36:26,739
Once she make that
first step on that ladder,
1765
01:36:26,823 --> 01:36:30,410
she keep climbing up, up, up, up.
1766
01:36:30,743 --> 01:36:32,662
She's not afraid.
1767
01:36:32,745 --> 01:36:34,205
She'll try.
1768
01:36:35,081 --> 01:36:38,126
She's not afraid to try anything.
1769
01:36:42,755 --> 01:36:45,216
- Do you think... do you
think that now after all the...
1770
01:36:45,300 --> 01:36:47,635
I mean, you've risen to the
top of the entertainment field
1771
01:36:47,719 --> 01:36:49,387
but you've maybe sacrificed love...
1772
01:36:49,470 --> 01:36:51,014
- Rising...
- This is what readers
1773
01:36:51,097 --> 01:36:53,891
will say... she has no love in her life.
1774
01:36:53,975 --> 01:36:55,893
- Oh, Kurt, we're gonna
get really heavy now,
1775
01:36:55,977 --> 01:36:57,395
because I'm drinking-
1776
01:36:57,478 --> 01:36:59,355
- Oh, good- - You're gonna find out.
1777
01:36:59,439 --> 01:37:03,192
I have not received love
almost ever in my life.
1778
01:37:03,276 --> 01:37:04,902
I did not have it with my mother
1779
01:37:04,986 --> 01:37:06,738
and my father from
the beginning of birth,
1780
01:37:06,821 --> 01:37:08,364
and I survived- - Yeah.
1781
01:37:08,448 --> 01:37:10,700
- Why did I get so
far without love, Kurt?
1782
01:37:10,783 --> 01:37:12,410
I never had it-
1783
01:37:12,493 --> 01:37:14,912
And if I cry here, it doesn't
mean that I pity myself.
1784
01:37:14,996 --> 01:37:16,664
It means that tears come
1785
01:37:16,748 --> 01:37:18,499
with certain memories-
- No, tears are not bad.
1786
01:37:18,583 --> 01:37:23,254
- I have had not one love affair
1787
01:37:23,546 --> 01:37:27,050
that was genuine and sustained itself.
1788
01:37:27,133 --> 01:37:29,135
Not one-
1789
01:37:29,427 --> 01:37:31,304
Kurt, I've been through...
1790
01:37:31,429 --> 01:37:33,723
Fucking tons of heartbreak!
1791
01:37:33,806 --> 01:37:35,016
I've analyzed it-
1792
01:37:35,099 --> 01:37:36,684
I said, "What's wrong with me?"
1793
01:37:36,768 --> 01:37:38,311
I've looked in the mirror with myself
1794
01:37:38,394 --> 01:37:40,396
stripped of makeup and without hair.
1795
01:37:40,897 --> 01:37:45,943
Why can someone see the
beauty in the woman it is that I am?
1796
01:37:46,027 --> 01:37:48,446
Not a goddamn person that found it.
1797
01:37:52,283 --> 01:37:57,330
♪ ♪
1798
01:38:59,851 --> 01:39:05,690
♪ ♪
1799
01:39:09,402 --> 01:39:11,529
♪ When I was younger ♪
1800
01:39:11,612 --> 01:39:16,033
♪ So much younger than today ♪
1801
01:39:16,868 --> 01:39:19,745
♪ Never needed anybody's ♪
1802
01:39:20,288 --> 01:39:24,083
♪ Help in any way ♪
1803
01:39:25,126 --> 01:39:27,587
♪ Now those days are gone ♪
1804
01:39:28,212 --> 01:39:31,507
♪ I'm not so self-assured ♪
1805
01:39:32,633 --> 01:39:35,887
♪ Now I find I've changed my mind ♪
1806
01:39:35,970 --> 01:39:39,348
♪ I've opened up the doors ♪
1807
01:39:39,849 --> 01:39:42,727
♪ So help me if you can ♪
1808
01:39:42,810 --> 01:39:45,021
♪ I'm feelin' down ♪
1809
01:39:46,355 --> 01:39:48,733
♪ And I do ♪
1810
01:39:48,816 --> 01:39:51,652
♪ Appreciate you ♪
1811
01:39:51,736 --> 01:39:53,905
♪ Bein' round ♪
1812
01:39:55,615 --> 01:40:00,912
♪ Oh, help me get my
feet back on the ground ♪
1813
01:40:00,995 --> 01:40:02,914
- ♪ Ooh ♪
1814
01:40:02,997 --> 01:40:06,584
- ♪ Won't you please, please ♪
1815
01:40:06,667 --> 01:40:08,544
♪ Help me? ♪
1816
01:40:08,628 --> 01:40:12,590
♪ ♪
1817
01:40:12,882 --> 01:40:15,134
♪ And now my life has changed ♪
1818
01:40:15,510 --> 01:40:19,013
♪ In, oh, so many ways ♪
1819
01:40:19,931 --> 01:40:22,225
♪ And my independence ♪
1820
01:40:22,767 --> 01:40:25,478
♪ Seems to vanish in the haze ♪
1821
01:40:25,561 --> 01:40:27,813
- ♪ Oh, yeah-ea-eah ♪
1822
01:40:27,897 --> 01:40:30,233
- ♪ Every now and then ♪
1823
01:40:30,983 --> 01:40:34,028
♪ I feel so insecure ♪
1824
01:40:34,779 --> 01:40:37,323
♪ I know that I just need you ♪
1825
01:40:37,615 --> 01:40:40,993
♪ Like I never did before ♪
1826
01:40:42,078 --> 01:40:44,789
♪ Help me if you can ♪
1827
01:40:44,872 --> 01:40:47,083
♪ I'm feelin' down ♪
1828
01:40:50,127 --> 01:40:53,130
♪ I do appreciate you ♪
1829
01:40:53,839 --> 01:40:56,551
♪ Bein' round ♪
1830
01:40:56,634 --> 01:40:57,885
- ♪ Oh ♪
1831
01:40:57,969 --> 01:41:00,513
- ♪ Help me get my feet ♪
1832
01:41:00,596 --> 01:41:03,015
♪ Back on the ground ♪
1833
01:41:03,099 --> 01:41:04,934
♪ ♪
1834
01:41:05,017 --> 01:41:06,811
♪ Won't you please ♪
1835
01:41:06,894 --> 01:41:08,813
♪ Please ♪
- ♪ Please ♪
1836
01:41:08,896 --> 01:41:10,982
- ♪ Help me? ♪
1837
01:41:12,900 --> 01:41:14,694
♪ Won't you please ♪
1838
01:41:14,986 --> 01:41:16,779
♪ Please ♪
- ♪ Please ♪
1839
01:41:16,862 --> 01:41:18,864
- ♪ Help me? ♪
1840
01:41:18,948 --> 01:41:20,324
♪ Oh, yeah, yeah ♪
1841
01:41:20,575 --> 01:41:22,785
♪ Oh, please ♪
1842
01:41:22,868 --> 01:41:29,868
♪ Please ♪
- ♪ Please ♪
1843
01:41:33,045 --> 01:41:37,300
♪ Mmm, won't you ♪
1844
01:41:38,092 --> 01:41:40,636
♪ Please help me? ♪
1845
01:41:40,720 --> 01:41:41,846
- ♪ Help ♪
1846
01:41:42,930 --> 01:41:44,515
- ♪ Oh ♪
1847
01:41:44,765 --> 01:41:45,766
- ♪ Help ♪
1848
01:41:46,851 --> 01:41:48,811
- ♪ Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh ♪
1849
01:41:48,894 --> 01:41:49,937
- ♪ Help ♪
1850
01:41:51,022 --> 01:41:52,023
♪ Help ♪
1851
01:41:52,523 --> 01:41:54,859
♪ ♪
1852
01:41:54,942 --> 01:42:00,489
- ♪ Oh ♪
1853
01:42:10,499 --> 01:42:12,585
The man that I'm looking
for actually has to be
1854
01:42:12,668 --> 01:42:14,337
a very strong man,
1855
01:42:14,420 --> 01:42:16,589
to wear, actually, the trousers,
1856
01:42:16,672 --> 01:42:19,592
but yet not to dominate me.
1857
01:42:19,675 --> 01:42:21,594
And that's fair.
1858
01:42:33,189 --> 01:42:34,982
- We met at Cologne Airport-
1859
01:42:35,066 --> 01:42:37,443
Actually, it was at Dusseldorf Airport.
1860
01:42:37,526 --> 01:42:39,612
And her manager, Roger,
1861
01:42:39,695 --> 01:42:43,491
asked me to pick up Tina-
1862
01:42:45,326 --> 01:42:46,494
- He was younger-
1863
01:42:46,577 --> 01:42:48,371
He was 30 years old at the time.
1864
01:42:48,454 --> 01:42:51,540
The prettiest face. I mean, you cannot...
1865
01:42:52,249 --> 01:42:53,834
It was like saying,
1866
01:42:53,918 --> 01:42:55,920
"Where did he come from?"
1867
01:42:56,003 --> 01:42:58,214
He was really so good-looking-
1868
01:42:58,422 --> 01:43:01,258
My heart went ba-boom-ba-ba!
1869
01:43:01,550 --> 01:43:04,720
And it means that a soul has met.
1870
01:43:04,804 --> 01:43:06,430
And my hands were shaking.
1871
01:43:06,806 --> 01:43:11,060
So Roger said to me,
"Tina, you ride with Erwin."
1872
01:43:11,143 --> 01:43:14,230
And I wanted to go, "Yay!"
1873
01:43:16,482 --> 01:43:17,900
- We enjoyed the ride-
1874
01:43:17,983 --> 01:43:20,611
I enjoyed driving the artist.
1875
01:43:20,695 --> 01:43:22,613
Actually, a superstar for us
1876
01:43:22,697 --> 01:43:24,657
where you're normally a
little nervous, you know.
1877
01:43:24,740 --> 01:43:27,284
But I wasn't nervous either.
1878
01:43:27,368 --> 01:43:29,578
I was just doing the job.
1879
01:43:30,830 --> 01:43:33,582
- When he found out that I liked him,
1880
01:43:33,666 --> 01:43:35,084
he came to America-
1881
01:43:35,418 --> 01:43:38,963
We were in Nashville, I think it was.
1882
01:43:39,046 --> 01:43:40,506
And I said to him,
1883
01:43:40,756 --> 01:43:44,343
"When you come to LA, I
want you to make love to me."
1884
01:43:45,511 --> 01:43:47,346
But I thought that I could say that
1885
01:43:47,430 --> 01:43:49,932
'cause I was a free woman...
I didn't have a boyfriend.
1886
01:43:50,015 --> 01:43:52,560
I liked him. There was
nothing wrong with it.
1887
01:43:52,643 --> 01:43:54,145
It was just sex.
1888
01:43:54,228 --> 01:43:56,814
And he looked at me as if he doesn't...
1889
01:43:56,897 --> 01:43:58,274
Didn't believe
1890
01:43:58,357 --> 01:44:00,693
what he was hearing!
1891
01:44:00,901 --> 01:44:03,571
I laugh now at the moment,
1892
01:44:03,654 --> 01:44:05,823
because I sometimes get that look
1893
01:44:05,906 --> 01:44:07,950
when I do certain things.
1894
01:44:08,868 --> 01:44:10,244
He was...
1895
01:44:10,828 --> 01:44:13,998
Just so, so different-
1896
01:44:14,081 --> 01:44:18,169
So laid-back, so
comfortable, so unpretentious.
1897
01:44:20,045 --> 01:44:22,882
And that was the
beginning of our relationship.
1898
01:44:26,051 --> 01:44:30,681
♪ ♪
1899
01:44:32,767 --> 01:44:34,351
I really needed love-
1900
01:44:34,435 --> 01:44:36,771
I just needed to love a person.
1901
01:44:40,065 --> 01:44:42,315
How many years later,
darling, we got married?
1902
01:44:43,194 --> 01:44:44,570
- 27.
1903
01:44:49,533 --> 01:44:51,410
It's love-It's something...
1904
01:44:51,494 --> 01:44:54,330
we both have for each other-
1905
01:44:54,413 --> 01:44:58,667
I always refer to it as
an electrical charge.
1906
01:44:58,751 --> 01:45:00,002
I still have it-
1907
01:45:00,127 --> 01:45:02,671
I still have it, and even
though when I left her
1908
01:45:02,755 --> 01:45:04,905
two hours ago, three
hours ago this morning,
1909
01:45:05,382 --> 01:45:06,926
I still have that feeling.
1910
01:45:07,009 --> 01:45:11,430
That feeling is still with
me and is in my heart.
1911
01:45:11,514 --> 01:45:13,516
I feel very warm about this.
1912
01:45:16,560 --> 01:45:22,566
♪ ♪
1913
01:46:25,004 --> 01:46:26,463
- First a minute to remember
1914
01:46:26,547 --> 01:46:28,591
one of the fathers of rock and roll.
1915
01:46:28,674 --> 01:46:31,969
Ike Turner died today at age 76.
1916
01:46:32,094 --> 01:46:34,597
Back in 1951, Turner helped record
1917
01:46:34,680 --> 01:46:36,765
what is one of the first
rock and roll records,
1918
01:46:36,849 --> 01:46:39,852
"Rocket 88," with his
band the Kings of Rhythm.
1919
01:46:39,935 --> 01:46:41,478
He may be best known
1920
01:46:41,562 --> 01:46:43,564
as the abusive ex-husband of Tina Turner,
1921
01:46:43,647 --> 01:46:45,357
with whom he performed for many years.
1922
01:46:45,441 --> 01:46:46,775
After their separation,
1923
01:46:46,859 --> 01:46:48,694
Ike Turner continued to make music.
1924
01:46:48,777 --> 01:46:50,529
In 1991, he was inducted
1925
01:46:50,613 --> 01:46:52,156
into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame,
1926
01:46:52,239 --> 01:46:55,743
and earlier this year, his
record "Risin' with the Blues"
1927
01:46:55,826 --> 01:46:58,329
won a Grammy for traditional blues album.
1928
01:47:00,164 --> 01:47:01,790
- For a long time, I did hate Ike.
1929
01:47:01,874 --> 01:47:02,917
I have to say that-
1930
01:47:03,000 --> 01:47:05,711
But then after he died,
1931
01:47:06,337 --> 01:47:09,048
I really realized that
he was a sick person.
1932
01:47:09,131 --> 01:47:12,509
He was an ill person in his soul.
1933
01:47:13,218 --> 01:47:15,387
He did get me started,
1934
01:47:16,180 --> 01:47:19,475
and he was good to me in the beginning.
1935
01:47:19,558 --> 01:47:21,018
So I have some good thoughts-
1936
01:47:22,978 --> 01:47:25,731
Maybe it was a good thing that I met him.
1937
01:47:26,357 --> 01:47:27,775
That I don't know-
1938
01:47:32,279 --> 01:47:37,076
♪ ♪
1939
01:47:44,833 --> 01:47:49,171
It hurts to have to remember those times.
1940
01:47:49,254 --> 01:47:53,008
♪ ♪
1941
01:47:53,092 --> 01:47:57,638
But at a certain stage,
forgiveness takes over.
1942
01:47:57,721 --> 01:47:59,932
♪ ♪
1943
01:48:00,015 --> 01:48:02,184
Forgiving means not to hold on.
1944
01:48:03,268 --> 01:48:06,939
You let it go, because it only hurts you.
1945
01:48:07,356 --> 01:48:09,984
Not forgiving, you suffer,
1946
01:48:10,067 --> 01:48:12,027
'cause you think about
it over and over again.
1947
01:48:12,111 --> 01:48:13,737
And for what?
1948
01:48:16,991 --> 01:48:19,034
I had an abusive life-
1949
01:48:19,118 --> 01:48:20,995
There's no other way to tell the story.
1950
01:48:21,078 --> 01:48:23,080
It's a reality. It's a truth.
1951
01:48:24,623 --> 01:48:26,709
That's what you've got.
1952
01:48:26,792 --> 01:48:28,627
So you have to accept it.
1953
01:48:33,590 --> 01:48:39,596
♪ ♪
1954
01:48:52,484 --> 01:48:55,446
♪ ♪
1955
01:48:58,198 --> 01:49:00,242
♪ ♪
1956
01:49:00,784 --> 01:49:01,744
- Working it.
1957
01:49:01,827 --> 01:49:03,037
Working it, as always.
- Why, thank you, honey.
1958
01:49:03,120 --> 01:49:05,372
- Can you tell us what Tina means to you?
1959
01:49:06,331 --> 01:49:08,500
♪ ♪
1960
01:49:09,334 --> 01:49:11,045
- The money shot is coming.
1961
01:49:11,128 --> 01:49:15,632
♪ ♪
1962
01:49:18,343 --> 01:49:20,262
- Some people say the life that I lived
1963
01:49:20,345 --> 01:49:23,265
and the performances that I gave...
1964
01:49:23,348 --> 01:49:27,352
The appreciation is
lasting with the people.
1965
01:49:28,353 --> 01:49:31,273
And, yeah, I should be proud of that.
1966
01:49:31,356 --> 01:49:32,483
I am.
1967
01:49:34,234 --> 01:49:35,736
But when do you stop being proud?
1968
01:49:35,819 --> 01:49:37,613
I mean, when do you...
1969
01:49:37,696 --> 01:49:42,326
How do you bow out slowly, just go away?
1970
01:49:48,082 --> 01:49:50,751
"- She said," I'm going to America.
1971
01:49:51,085 --> 01:49:54,254
"I'm gonna say goodbye
to my American fans,
1972
01:49:54,338 --> 01:49:55,923
and I'll wrap it up-"
1973
01:49:56,924 --> 01:50:00,719
And I think this documentary
here and the play...
1974
01:50:01,428 --> 01:50:03,305
this is it-
1975
01:50:04,264 --> 01:50:06,433
It's a closure-
1976
01:50:06,517 --> 01:50:07,976
A closure.
1977
01:50:08,519 --> 01:50:11,730
Tina, Tina, Tina, Tina!
1978
01:50:14,775 --> 01:50:18,362
Tina, Tina, Tina, Tina!
1979
01:50:21,532 --> 01:50:26,245
♪ ♪
1980
01:50:30,833 --> 01:50:35,796
- What I gleaned
from her life was love...
1981
01:50:36,547 --> 01:50:39,007
love of self, love of her family,
1982
01:50:39,091 --> 01:50:41,802
love of her talent,
1983
01:50:41,885 --> 01:50:43,595
love of audiences,
1984
01:50:43,679 --> 01:50:46,181
of music, of freedom-
1985
01:50:50,352 --> 01:50:52,938
♪ ♪
1986
01:50:53,105 --> 01:50:54,815
There's a part of her, I guess,
1987
01:50:54,898 --> 01:50:57,401
that we've all laid claim to,
1988
01:50:57,526 --> 01:50:59,862
we've all embraced across the world.
1989
01:51:00,195 --> 01:51:02,781
And I hope she knows that, you know,
1990
01:51:02,865 --> 01:51:05,033
how beloved, how loved she is.
1991
01:51:06,160 --> 01:51:09,288
She is absolutely adored.
1992
01:51:14,334 --> 01:51:19,548
♪ ♪
1993
01:51:57,044 --> 01:52:02,466
♪ ♪
1994
01:52:53,517 --> 01:52:59,523
♪ ♪
1995
01:53:07,030 --> 01:53:09,032
- ♪ I'll call you when I need you ♪
1996
01:53:09,116 --> 01:53:11,493
♪ My heart's on fire ♪
1997
01:53:11,618 --> 01:53:15,747
♪ ♪
1998
01:53:15,831 --> 01:53:18,000
♪ Come to me, come to me ♪
1999
01:53:18,083 --> 01:53:20,085
♪ Wild and wired ♪
2000
01:53:20,294 --> 01:53:23,672
♪ ♪
2001
01:53:23,755 --> 01:53:25,173
♪ You come to me ♪
2002
01:53:26,967 --> 01:53:29,970
♪ Give me everything I need ♪
2003
01:53:30,637 --> 01:53:32,681
♪ ♪
2004
01:53:32,764 --> 01:53:35,100
♪ Give me a lifetime of promises ♪
2005
01:53:35,183 --> 01:53:37,477
♪ And a world of dreams ♪
2006
01:53:37,561 --> 01:53:41,189
♪ ♪
2007
01:53:41,356 --> 01:53:43,317
♪ Speak the language of love ♪
2008
01:53:43,400 --> 01:53:46,278
♪ Like you know what it means ♪
2009
01:53:46,445 --> 01:53:49,573
♪ ♪
2010
01:53:49,740 --> 01:53:51,533
♪ And it can't be wrong ♪
2011
01:53:52,868 --> 01:53:56,580
♪ Take my heart and
make it strong, baby ♪
2012
01:53:58,040 --> 01:53:59,916
♪ You're simply the best ♪
2013
01:54:00,000 --> 01:54:02,669
♪ ♪
2014
01:54:02,753 --> 01:54:05,213
♪ Better than all the rest ♪
2015
01:54:06,965 --> 01:54:09,551
♪ Better than anyone ♪
2016
01:54:11,053 --> 01:54:13,764
♪ Than anyone I've ever met ♪
2017
01:54:15,432 --> 01:54:17,934
♪ I'm stuck on your heart, babe ♪
2018
01:54:19,686 --> 01:54:22,481
♪ And I hang on every word you say ♪
2019
01:54:24,441 --> 01:54:25,901
♪ Tear us apart ♪
2020
01:54:26,318 --> 01:54:27,277
♪ Oh, no ♪
2021
01:54:28,820 --> 01:54:32,115
♪ Baby, I would rather be dead ♪
2022
01:54:33,700 --> 01:54:35,702
♪ In your heart, I see the start ♪
2023
01:54:35,786 --> 01:54:37,454
♪ Of every night and every day ♪
2024
01:54:37,537 --> 01:54:38,455
- ♪ Oh, yeah ♪
2025
01:54:38,538 --> 01:54:41,917
♪ ♪
2026
01:54:42,209 --> 01:54:44,461
- ♪ In your eyes, I get lost ♪
2027
01:54:44,544 --> 01:54:46,588
♪ I get washed away ♪
2028
01:54:46,671 --> 01:54:50,967
♪ ♪
2029
01:54:51,051 --> 01:54:54,262
♪ Just as long as I'm here in your arms ♪
2030
01:54:54,346 --> 01:54:57,391
♪ I could be in no better place ♪
2031
01:54:58,558 --> 01:55:00,602
♪ Oh, you're simply the best ♪
2032
01:55:00,685 --> 01:55:01,728
Whoo!
2033
01:55:03,397 --> 01:55:06,274
♪ Better than all the rest ♪
2034
01:55:06,441 --> 01:55:07,484
Whoo!
2035
01:55:07,776 --> 01:55:10,487
♪ Better than anyone ♪
2036
01:55:11,905 --> 01:55:14,783
♪ Than anyone I've ever met ♪
2037
01:55:15,909 --> 01:55:18,662
♪ Ooh, I'm stuck on your heart ♪
2038
01:55:18,745 --> 01:55:20,872
♪ ♪
2039
01:55:20,956 --> 01:55:23,500
♪ And I hang on every word you say ♪
2040
01:55:24,709 --> 01:55:26,753
♪ Don't tear us apart ♪
2041
01:55:27,254 --> 01:55:28,296
♪ Oh, no ♪
2042
01:55:29,714 --> 01:55:32,759
♪ Baby, I would rather be dead ♪
2043
01:55:32,968 --> 01:55:35,262
♪ ♪
2044
01:55:35,387 --> 01:55:38,932
♪ Each time you leave
me I start losing control ♪
2045
01:55:39,266 --> 01:55:43,228
♪ You're walkin' away
with my heart and my soul ♪
2046
01:55:44,229 --> 01:55:47,691
♪ I can feel you even when I'm alone ♪
2047
01:55:48,275 --> 01:55:49,776
♪ Oh, baby ♪
2048
01:55:50,277 --> 01:55:52,571
♪ Don't let go ♪
2049
01:55:52,654 --> 01:55:53,655
Whoo!
2050
01:55:53,905 --> 01:55:59,119
♪ ♪
2051
01:56:02,914 --> 01:56:03,915
♪ Oh! ♪
2052
01:56:04,207 --> 01:56:07,586
♪ Oh! Oh! Oh! ♪
2053
01:56:08,962 --> 01:56:11,506
- ♪ You're the best ♪ Sing it, everybody!
2054
01:56:12,924 --> 01:56:15,594
♪ You're better than all the rest ♪
2055
01:56:17,471 --> 01:56:19,931
♪ Better than anyone ♪
2056
01:56:21,516 --> 01:56:24,352
♪ Than anyone I've ever met ♪
2057
01:56:25,395 --> 01:56:28,565
♪ Ooh, I'm stuck on your heart, baby ♪
2058
01:56:30,275 --> 01:56:32,777
♪ And I hang on every word you say ♪
2059
01:56:34,529 --> 01:56:36,323
♪ Don't tear us apart ♪
2060
01:56:36,740 --> 01:56:37,908
♪ No, no ♪
2061
01:56:39,284 --> 01:56:42,287
♪ Baby, I would rather be dead ♪
2062
01:56:42,871 --> 01:56:44,998
♪ Oh, you're the best ♪
2063
01:56:45,415 --> 01:56:51,421
♪ ♪
2064
01:57:04,684 --> 01:57:07,229
♪ Yeah, simply the best, yeah ♪
2065
01:57:08,063 --> 01:57:09,147
♪ Oh ♪
2066
01:57:09,356 --> 01:57:12,025
♪ You're better than all the rest ♪
2067
01:57:13,985 --> 01:57:16,321
♪ Better than anyone ♪
2068
01:57:17,739 --> 01:57:20,700
♪ Than anyone I ever met ♪
2069
01:57:21,826 --> 01:57:25,038
♪ I'm stuck on your heart, baby ♪
2070
01:57:26,623 --> 01:57:29,292
♪ And I hang on every word you say ♪
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♪ Don't tear us apart, no, no ♪
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♪ Baby, I would rather be dead ♪
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♪ Oh, you're the best ♪
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♪ ♪
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Thank you!
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