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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,915 --> 00:00:04,482 Montez: Do you want to explain how he can walk 2 00:00:04,526 --> 00:00:05,744 after laying vegetative for over a year? 3 00:00:05,788 --> 00:00:06,919 I want a lawyer. 4 00:00:06,963 --> 00:00:08,095 What did you do to me? 5 00:00:08,138 --> 00:00:09,618 The drug you're on is called Cerebellin. 6 00:00:09,661 --> 00:00:11,446 I feel different. 7 00:00:11,489 --> 00:00:12,925 You'll need another dose within three days. 8 00:00:12,969 --> 00:00:14,536 Or...? 9 00:00:14,579 --> 00:00:16,799 You'll weaken a-and most likely die. 10 00:00:16,842 --> 00:00:18,975 We're here to see Assistant District Attorney Montez. 11 00:00:19,019 --> 00:00:20,672 It's Hartsfield. Put your hands up! 12 00:00:20,716 --> 00:00:22,065 Get on the ground! Put your hands up! 13 00:00:22,109 --> 00:00:23,762 Lou, you might not be safe here. 14 00:00:23,806 --> 00:00:25,329 You think he's gonna come looking for me? 15 00:00:25,373 --> 00:00:27,462 Guys, look.Anchor Jeanine: ...walked in voluntarily 16 00:00:27,505 --> 00:00:29,551 and surrendered himself without incident. 17 00:00:29,594 --> 00:00:30,595 What? 18 00:00:30,639 --> 00:00:31,727 He's an affront to humanity. 19 00:00:31,770 --> 00:00:33,120 He's got to be stopped. 20 00:00:33,163 --> 00:00:35,905 Not your job anymore.[ Sighs ] 21 00:00:35,948 --> 00:00:38,647 I'm told you don't deny crimping Brady Hartsfield's oxygen line. 22 00:00:38,690 --> 00:00:40,910 Is that true? -Do I need a lawyer? 23 00:00:40,953 --> 00:00:43,608 Brady Hartsfield entered the hospital as a psychopath. 24 00:00:43,652 --> 00:00:45,088 He now represents something else 25 00:00:45,132 --> 00:00:49,310 to every single one of us -- hope. 26 00:00:49,353 --> 00:00:50,615 Brady: Greetings, Detective. 27 00:00:50,659 --> 00:00:54,750 ♪♪ 28 00:01:04,368 --> 00:01:05,891 [ Scoffs ] 29 00:01:08,242 --> 00:01:10,592 This is surreal. 30 00:01:12,768 --> 00:01:15,336 Well... 31 00:01:15,379 --> 00:01:18,426 I deserve to be here, 32 00:01:18,469 --> 00:01:21,081 and you probably do since you tried to kill me, 33 00:01:21,124 --> 00:01:24,475 but... in jail together? 34 00:01:26,260 --> 00:01:28,436 If I tried to kill you, you'd be dead. 35 00:01:30,351 --> 00:01:32,875 I guess. 36 00:01:32,918 --> 00:01:34,442 This is fucked. 37 00:01:34,485 --> 00:01:37,184 -Never mind. -The guy's already confessed. 38 00:01:37,227 --> 00:01:39,708 Why risk even a whiff of prosecutorial misconduct -- 39 00:01:39,751 --> 00:01:41,449 This is not prosecutorial misconduct, 40 00:01:41,492 --> 00:01:43,146 and a confession from that fuck doesn't mean shit. 41 00:01:43,190 --> 00:01:44,539 Why not? 42 00:01:44,582 --> 00:01:46,323 Because he's gonna be hiding behind insanity. 43 00:01:46,367 --> 00:01:48,325 He was already laying the pipe when we questioned him. 44 00:01:48,369 --> 00:01:49,979 Hodges knows how to push all the right buttons 45 00:01:50,022 --> 00:01:51,154 to get the real Brady Hartsfield to show up. 46 00:01:51,198 --> 00:01:53,025 I am sorry. 47 00:01:53,069 --> 00:01:55,027 No doubt. 48 00:01:55,071 --> 00:01:56,725 I mean it. 49 00:01:56,768 --> 00:01:58,248 The idea... 50 00:02:00,468 --> 00:02:03,775 ...I could be the kind of person who would... 51 00:02:07,562 --> 00:02:09,477 Clearly I was missing a chip. 52 00:02:11,435 --> 00:02:15,091 The main thing -- 53 00:02:15,135 --> 00:02:16,484 I'm better now. 54 00:02:22,925 --> 00:02:25,319 That's the plan, is it? 55 00:02:25,362 --> 00:02:28,713 Chip found, all better. 56 00:02:28,757 --> 00:02:31,760 You know, you were partly to blame 57 00:02:31,803 --> 00:02:33,414 for the subsequent mayhem. 58 00:02:33,457 --> 00:02:34,763 Was I now? 59 00:02:34,806 --> 00:02:37,505 You called me a fraud, a nothing. 60 00:02:39,594 --> 00:02:43,554 You -- You accused me of fucking my mother. 61 00:02:44,990 --> 00:02:45,991 It hit a nerve. 62 00:02:46,035 --> 00:02:48,777 [ Scoffs ] 63 00:02:48,820 --> 00:02:52,476 You know, I sometimes wonder... 64 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:55,653 would Janey Patterson still be alive 65 00:02:55,697 --> 00:02:59,483 if you hadn't provoked me so? 66 00:02:59,527 --> 00:03:02,138 Provoked the old me, I should say. 67 00:03:02,182 --> 00:03:03,531 The chipless you. 68 00:03:06,882 --> 00:03:09,014 Do you want a face-to-face, Hartsfield? 69 00:03:09,058 --> 00:03:10,407 Let's do it. 70 00:03:14,194 --> 00:03:16,239 Could you zoom in there please, Nancy? 71 00:03:16,283 --> 00:03:19,111 ♪♪ 72 00:03:19,155 --> 00:03:21,201 I don't like this. 73 00:03:21,244 --> 00:03:22,593 I do not like this. 74 00:03:22,637 --> 00:03:26,075 The, uh -- The things I did, 75 00:03:26,118 --> 00:03:30,079 I understand your motives in wanting to bring me down. 76 00:03:30,122 --> 00:03:32,255 Saying the right things. Good for you. 77 00:03:32,299 --> 00:03:34,736 I've apologized. 78 00:03:34,779 --> 00:03:38,914 I've condemned the person I was. I've denounced him. 79 00:03:40,785 --> 00:03:42,439 We're on the same side now. 80 00:03:42,483 --> 00:03:47,749 ♪♪ 81 00:03:47,792 --> 00:03:49,881 No hard feelings. 82 00:03:52,667 --> 00:03:56,410 You really expect me to shake that thing? 83 00:03:56,453 --> 00:03:59,326 I'm -- I'm sure you'd rather kill me, 84 00:03:59,369 --> 00:04:02,111 but that would make you lawless, 85 00:04:02,154 --> 00:04:05,419 and we both know you're not that. 86 00:04:09,814 --> 00:04:11,947 You so cherish your moral superiority. 87 00:04:11,990 --> 00:04:14,863 That always pissed me off, you should know. 88 00:04:14,906 --> 00:04:16,908 Never my intent to upset. 89 00:04:19,824 --> 00:04:24,916 You know, the old me -- Mr. Chipless -- 90 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:29,486 he would've delighted in all of this -- 91 00:04:29,530 --> 00:04:33,360 bringing you down to his level. 92 00:04:33,403 --> 00:04:37,929 It'd be the ultimate old-me masterpiece. 93 00:04:37,973 --> 00:04:44,022 You sat there, knowing at the end of the day, 94 00:04:44,066 --> 00:04:46,242 you're no better than me. 95 00:04:46,286 --> 00:04:48,375 Don't you mean to say "him"? 96 00:04:48,418 --> 00:04:50,551 Him. 97 00:04:50,594 --> 00:04:52,161 Past tense. 98 00:04:52,204 --> 00:04:53,336 Right. 99 00:04:53,380 --> 00:04:58,341 ♪♪ 100 00:04:58,385 --> 00:05:04,782 Bill, I don't blame you in wanting me dead, okay? 101 00:05:04,826 --> 00:05:07,742 Is it -- Is it okay if I call you Bill? 102 00:05:07,785 --> 00:05:10,832 You had your chance at the hospital. 103 00:05:12,486 --> 00:05:14,139 Um... 104 00:05:16,141 --> 00:05:17,665 You have a chance again now. 105 00:05:22,104 --> 00:05:26,848 Given what's in store for me, it could be win/win. 106 00:05:29,677 --> 00:05:31,418 You'd like me to do it, wouldn't ya? 107 00:05:34,334 --> 00:05:35,465 I actually would. 108 00:05:38,816 --> 00:05:43,473 But we know that isn't who you are. 109 00:05:43,517 --> 00:05:44,735 Is it? 110 00:05:46,694 --> 00:05:48,391 No, it isn't. 111 00:05:48,435 --> 00:05:49,784 [ Gasps ] Then again... 112 00:05:49,827 --> 00:05:51,133 Shit. 113 00:05:51,176 --> 00:05:53,527 [ Gagging ] 114 00:05:53,570 --> 00:05:59,141 ♪♪ 115 00:05:59,184 --> 00:06:01,404 [ Gasping ] 116 00:06:01,448 --> 00:06:06,496 ♪♪ 117 00:06:06,540 --> 00:06:08,063 [ Buzzer ]Move! Move! Come on! 118 00:06:08,106 --> 00:06:09,456 Man: Go! Unlock it, unlock it. 119 00:06:09,499 --> 00:06:11,501 [ Indistinct shouting ] 120 00:06:11,545 --> 00:06:13,329 Appeared to be choking on this little thing. 121 00:06:13,373 --> 00:06:14,591 I had to dislodge it. 122 00:06:14,635 --> 00:06:16,071 -Don't move! -He's got evidence. 123 00:06:16,114 --> 00:06:17,768 Montez: He's got evidence right there. 124 00:06:17,812 --> 00:06:20,336 Plastics -- could be the death of ya. 125 00:06:20,380 --> 00:06:23,861 We got evidence. He was choking. He was choking. 126 00:06:23,905 --> 00:06:25,341 He was choking. 127 00:06:26,864 --> 00:06:30,302 Probably still is, any luck.Easy. 128 00:06:31,173 --> 00:06:33,828 [ Mississippi John Hurt's "I Shall Not Be Moved" plays ] 129 00:06:33,871 --> 00:06:43,446 ♪♪ 130 00:06:43,490 --> 00:06:53,151 ♪♪ 131 00:06:53,195 --> 00:07:02,900 ♪♪ 132 00:07:02,944 --> 00:07:12,823 ♪♪ 133 00:07:12,867 --> 00:07:22,485 ♪♪ 134 00:07:22,529 --> 00:07:32,147 ♪♪ 135 00:07:32,190 --> 00:07:42,070 ♪♪ 136 00:07:42,113 --> 00:07:51,514 ♪♪ 137 00:07:55,213 --> 00:07:57,781 What the fuck, man? 138 00:07:57,825 --> 00:08:00,044 People reveal their true colors under duress. 139 00:08:00,088 --> 00:08:01,959 Good news is, he's still at home. 140 00:08:02,003 --> 00:08:03,700 There's not a fucking thing changed about him. 141 00:08:03,744 --> 00:08:05,572 That is not what we needed. 142 00:08:05,615 --> 00:08:06,921 Well, that's what you got. 143 00:08:06,964 --> 00:08:09,619 Am I still arrested?You might be. 144 00:08:09,663 --> 00:08:11,012 For now, you're dodging a bullet thanks to me. 145 00:08:11,055 --> 00:08:12,492 No more bullshit, okay? 146 00:08:12,535 --> 00:08:13,580 Donna, thank God. 147 00:08:13,623 --> 00:08:16,539 Hi, Tony. All good. 148 00:08:16,583 --> 00:08:18,367 You're, uh -- You're processed out. 149 00:08:18,410 --> 00:08:20,630 Okay, good. His arraignment is slated for 2:00. 150 00:08:20,674 --> 00:08:22,414 In the meantime, no talking to the media. 151 00:08:22,458 --> 00:08:24,329 Why not? Because I said so, 152 00:08:24,373 --> 00:08:26,462 and because that asshole's lawyer is looking to put the cops on trial, 153 00:08:26,506 --> 00:08:28,159 and I don't need you spoon-feeding them sound bites. 154 00:08:28,203 --> 00:08:29,987 Babineau's talking his face off everywhere. 155 00:08:30,031 --> 00:08:31,946 Would you help me with this, please?Yeah, yeah, sure. 156 00:08:31,989 --> 00:08:33,948 All right, and put a suit on, and just... 157 00:08:33,991 --> 00:08:35,645 generally look better than you do right now. 158 00:08:38,474 --> 00:08:39,780 Thanks for coming. 159 00:08:39,823 --> 00:08:42,086 You know, I'm not a criminal attorney. 160 00:08:42,130 --> 00:08:43,784 If they do decide to prosecute you, 161 00:08:43,827 --> 00:08:45,350 you're gonna have to find yourself somebody else. 162 00:08:45,394 --> 00:08:47,788 Montez says that they probably won't. 163 00:08:47,831 --> 00:08:49,572 Are you okay?Yeah, yeah, it's all right. 164 00:08:49,616 --> 00:08:50,747 Yeah, it's okay.You know what, Bill? 165 00:08:50,791 --> 00:08:52,357 Whether they press criminal charges or not, 166 00:08:52,401 --> 00:08:54,316 you could still face a ton of civil exposure, 167 00:08:54,359 --> 00:08:57,406 the least of which Brady suing youfor assault and battery. 168 00:08:57,449 --> 00:08:58,363 At least he's behind bars. 169 00:08:58,407 --> 00:08:59,582 So were you. 170 00:08:59,626 --> 00:09:02,324 Well, something happened in there. 171 00:09:02,367 --> 00:09:03,847 No shit. No, no. 172 00:09:03,891 --> 00:09:06,589 Seriously, like, a bit of an eye-opener. 173 00:09:06,633 --> 00:09:07,895 A what? 174 00:09:07,938 --> 00:09:09,636 An epiphany, actually. 175 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:12,073 "An epiphany." An epiphany? What are you talking about? 176 00:09:12,116 --> 00:09:14,423 Well, I -- I'd like to tell you about it, but -- 177 00:09:14,466 --> 00:09:16,338 Fine. What -- What is it? Tell me. Tell me the epiphany. 178 00:09:16,381 --> 00:09:18,122 No, not now. Can we have dinner? 179 00:09:18,166 --> 00:09:20,255 No, it's 11:00. I'm not hungry. 180 00:09:20,298 --> 00:09:21,299 Tomorrow, then. Whenever. 181 00:09:21,343 --> 00:09:22,605 Fine. 182 00:09:22,649 --> 00:09:26,522 [ Indistinct shouting ] 183 00:09:26,566 --> 00:09:29,612 The case of the People of Ohio vs. Brady Hartsfield 184 00:09:29,656 --> 00:09:32,093 is set to begin imminently. 185 00:09:32,136 --> 00:09:34,617 Public revulsion against Mr. Hartsfield 186 00:09:34,661 --> 00:09:37,968 has not diminished even as almost three years have passed 187 00:09:38,012 --> 00:09:40,101 since the Mercedes massacre. 188 00:09:40,144 --> 00:09:42,669 Surviving victims and family members of the victims 189 00:09:42,712 --> 00:09:44,627 have turned out for front-row seats 190 00:09:44,671 --> 00:09:47,325 to see this man brought to justice. 191 00:09:47,369 --> 00:09:49,545 [ Indistinct chanting ] 192 00:09:49,589 --> 00:09:51,242 I'm not good with crowds like this. 193 00:09:51,286 --> 00:09:52,766 Well, just suck it up. 194 00:09:54,463 --> 00:09:57,292 Reminds me of the Arts Gala. 195 00:09:57,335 --> 00:10:00,817 Well, try not to bash anybody's skull in. 196 00:10:00,861 --> 00:10:03,298 Bill Hodges, Michelle Roberts, WPDK Milwaukee. 197 00:10:03,341 --> 00:10:04,908 Can I get a comment? 198 00:10:04,952 --> 00:10:07,607 Free agency ruined baseball. That's all I got. 199 00:10:07,650 --> 00:10:08,738 Holly Gibney. 200 00:10:08,782 --> 00:10:10,697 Um, I'm sorry. I've got to go. Sorry. 201 00:10:11,828 --> 00:10:14,265 Case number 32432 -- 202 00:10:14,309 --> 00:10:16,616 People of Ohio vs. Brady Hartsfield. 203 00:10:19,531 --> 00:10:21,533 [ Camera shutters clicking ] 204 00:10:28,105 --> 00:10:30,673 Stop with the cameras, please. 205 00:10:30,717 --> 00:10:34,068 Stop with the cameras. Take your seats. 206 00:10:34,111 --> 00:10:35,547 Shields: Good afternoon, Your Honor. 207 00:10:35,591 --> 00:10:38,072 Merrill D. Shields for the defendant. 208 00:10:38,115 --> 00:10:41,162 We will wave the reading of the charges at this time, 209 00:10:41,205 --> 00:10:43,338 enter a plea of not guilty. 210 00:10:43,381 --> 00:10:44,948 [ People murmuring ] 211 00:10:44,992 --> 00:10:47,342 Antonio Montez for the People of Ohio, Your Honor. 212 00:10:47,385 --> 00:10:49,866 In that this is a capital case, we will be opposing bail. 213 00:10:49,910 --> 00:10:51,520 We do expect to be seeking the death penalty, 214 00:10:51,563 --> 00:10:52,869 and there is a risk -- 215 00:10:52,913 --> 00:10:55,306 The defense agrees to wave bail, Judge, 216 00:10:55,350 --> 00:10:57,265 and I would be remiss 217 00:10:57,308 --> 00:10:59,571 if I did not say this at the onset. 218 00:10:59,615 --> 00:11:02,183 I do not mean to stand in this courtroom today 219 00:11:02,226 --> 00:11:06,013 to defend the heinous individual who drove a Mercedes sedan 220 00:11:06,056 --> 00:11:08,450 into a crowd of innocent people. 221 00:11:08,493 --> 00:11:11,801 I see many of those people among us, 222 00:11:11,845 --> 00:11:13,498 some of their families here with us today. 223 00:11:13,542 --> 00:11:16,240 You don't see my Janice, 224 00:11:16,284 --> 00:11:18,025 and you don't see my granddaughter. 225 00:11:18,068 --> 00:11:19,548 [ Indistinct shouting ] 226 00:11:19,591 --> 00:11:20,418 Judge Helfrick: Ladies and gentlemen. 227 00:11:20,462 --> 00:11:22,420 Ladies and gentlemen. 228 00:11:23,683 --> 00:11:25,597 Sir, please take your seat. 229 00:11:25,641 --> 00:11:28,339 Mr. Shields, this is not the time. 230 00:11:28,383 --> 00:11:29,689 Yes, Your Honor. 231 00:11:31,429 --> 00:11:33,649 You've waved reading and bail. 232 00:11:33,693 --> 00:11:35,825 Any other matters before we conference? 233 00:11:35,869 --> 00:11:39,655 Yes. At this time, the defendant, 234 00:11:39,699 --> 00:11:45,400 pursuant to Section 29215.37 of the Ohio Revised Code, 235 00:11:45,443 --> 00:11:46,967 petitions the court for a hearing 236 00:11:47,010 --> 00:11:50,405 to determine my client's competency to stand trial. 237 00:11:50,448 --> 00:11:52,276 [ People murmuring ]What?! 238 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:53,800 Settle down. 239 00:11:53,843 --> 00:11:55,497 [ Gavel bangs ]Settle down. 240 00:11:55,540 --> 00:11:57,804 Your Honor, there is no mental deficit in play here. 241 00:11:57,847 --> 00:11:59,457 We suggest there is. 242 00:11:59,501 --> 00:12:01,938 If anything, Counsel and his team have been publicly touting 243 00:12:01,982 --> 00:12:04,462 how Mr. Hartsfield's mental condition has improved. 244 00:12:04,506 --> 00:12:07,074 More than that, Your Honor. Preliminary medical indications 245 00:12:07,117 --> 00:12:09,511 are that Brady Hartsfield has been cured, 246 00:12:09,554 --> 00:12:12,122 and therein lies the problem. 247 00:12:12,166 --> 00:12:16,039 In order for my client to assist in his defense, 248 00:12:16,083 --> 00:12:17,780 he needs to be here. 249 00:12:17,824 --> 00:12:19,390 He isn't. 250 00:12:19,434 --> 00:12:21,566 I need to converse with him. I can't. 251 00:12:21,610 --> 00:12:23,438 What are you talking about? 252 00:12:23,481 --> 00:12:27,616 We're talking about two different people, Your Honor. 253 00:12:27,659 --> 00:12:31,228 There was the man who committed this atrocious crime -- 254 00:12:31,272 --> 00:12:34,014 let's call him "Mr. Mercedes" -- 255 00:12:34,057 --> 00:12:37,191 and then there's the Brady Hartsfield 256 00:12:37,234 --> 00:12:39,236 sitting here with us today. 257 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:41,630 Mr. Mercedes is gone. 258 00:12:41,673 --> 00:12:43,240 He no longer exists 259 00:12:43,284 --> 00:12:46,026 and therefore cannot contribute to his defense. 260 00:12:46,069 --> 00:12:48,724 [ Indistinct shouting ]Excuse me. What? 261 00:12:48,768 --> 00:12:51,248 [ Gavel bangs ]Settle down. 262 00:12:53,816 --> 00:12:55,992 Let me instruct all of you right now. 263 00:12:56,036 --> 00:12:59,604 Any more outbursts, I will clear this room. 264 00:12:59,648 --> 00:13:03,043 Counsel, I'm confused. 265 00:13:03,086 --> 00:13:07,003 He committed these crimes because of a mental disability. 266 00:13:07,047 --> 00:13:10,746 He's now cured of that mental disability. 267 00:13:10,790 --> 00:13:13,096 And you maintain that his being cured 268 00:13:13,140 --> 00:13:15,533 means that he's incompetent to stand trial? 269 00:13:15,577 --> 00:13:17,666 Exactly.Are you kidding me, Your Honor? 270 00:13:17,709 --> 00:13:22,932 I do not need to remind the court -- maybe I do you. 271 00:13:22,976 --> 00:13:26,893 Legal incompetency does not mean mental impairment or insanity. 272 00:13:26,936 --> 00:13:29,634 It means the defendant lacks the capacity 273 00:13:29,678 --> 00:13:31,245 to assist in his own defense. 274 00:13:31,288 --> 00:13:34,901 The man sitting there cannot begin to understand, 275 00:13:34,944 --> 00:13:37,033 let alone defend, what the other man did. 276 00:13:37,077 --> 00:13:38,556 Give me a break. 277 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:41,995 Before you go off accusing either me or my client 278 00:13:42,038 --> 00:13:44,911 of manipulating this process, 279 00:13:44,954 --> 00:13:48,131 Brady Hartsfield did not ask to be cured. 280 00:13:48,175 --> 00:13:51,352 He did not consent to be drugged. 281 00:13:51,395 --> 00:13:55,443 It is not this man's fault that his brain was experimented on 282 00:13:55,486 --> 00:13:58,141 and that he's no longer the person he used to be. 283 00:13:58,185 --> 00:14:01,666 It's not his fault that he can't begin to comprehend 284 00:14:01,710 --> 00:14:05,453 the horrors that Mr. Mercedes perpetuated, 285 00:14:05,496 --> 00:14:07,890 let alone defend himself for it. 286 00:14:07,934 --> 00:14:12,373 There is no real meaningful mental connection 287 00:14:12,416 --> 00:14:14,244 between this man 288 00:14:14,288 --> 00:14:17,334 and the man who drove a car into a crowd of people. 289 00:14:17,378 --> 00:14:22,383 [ People murmuring ] 290 00:14:22,426 --> 00:14:24,385 Your Honor, may I be heard? 291 00:14:24,428 --> 00:14:27,736 [ Indistinct shouting ] 292 00:14:27,779 --> 00:14:29,738 All right, all right, all right! 293 00:14:29,781 --> 00:14:33,046 [ Gavel bangs ]Let's settle down! 294 00:14:33,089 --> 00:14:36,266 -Stop with the cameras now. -This will be my last warning. 295 00:14:36,310 --> 00:14:40,444 Mr. Hartsfield, this is not a time for you to speak. 296 00:14:40,488 --> 00:14:44,231 I don't want this attorney or any other defending my actions. 297 00:14:44,274 --> 00:14:46,929 The man who drove that car was me physically. 298 00:14:46,973 --> 00:14:49,845 That person, whoever he was, should be locked up 299 00:14:49,889 --> 00:14:53,805 or, even better, put to death. 300 00:14:53,849 --> 00:14:57,374 It's bad enough that I'm trapped in the same body. 301 00:14:57,418 --> 00:15:00,160 The idea that my mind could revert to... 302 00:15:01,683 --> 00:15:04,512 I'd rather be dead. 303 00:15:04,555 --> 00:15:07,776 This is what I'm talking about, Your Honor. 304 00:15:07,819 --> 00:15:09,821 Mr. Mercedes is no longer among us. 305 00:15:09,865 --> 00:15:12,259 [ Indistinct shouting ] 306 00:15:12,302 --> 00:15:13,042 Judge Helfrick: Settle down! 307 00:15:13,086 --> 00:15:14,652 Bailiff. 308 00:15:14,696 --> 00:15:16,219 [ Gavel bangs ]All right. 309 00:15:16,263 --> 00:15:19,353 I want it quiet in this courtroom! Quiet! 310 00:15:19,396 --> 00:15:21,181 As crazy as it sounds, 311 00:15:21,224 --> 00:15:24,749 it's both a viable and valid legal argument. 312 00:15:24,793 --> 00:15:27,230 If the defense can show that Brady Hartsfield 313 00:15:27,274 --> 00:15:30,407 has been mentally rebooted and the current version 314 00:15:30,451 --> 00:15:33,976 cannot contribute to the defense of his former self, 315 00:15:34,020 --> 00:15:38,633 then that meets the legal definition of incompetency. 316 00:15:38,676 --> 00:15:40,461 Seriously? 317 00:15:40,504 --> 00:15:42,376 Do you think it's really possible? 318 00:15:42,419 --> 00:15:44,508 No, it's not. He's the same person. 319 00:15:44,552 --> 00:15:46,771 I saw it in the cell. I saw it in the courtroom. 320 00:15:46,815 --> 00:15:49,383 It's a brilliant ploy. 321 00:15:49,426 --> 00:15:54,692 How can one be both brilliant and incompetent to stand trial? 322 00:15:54,736 --> 00:15:58,087 'Cause the law is fucked. 323 00:15:58,131 --> 00:15:59,523 [ Knock on door ] 324 00:16:01,395 --> 00:16:03,049 Ah, Jesus. Speak of the devil. 325 00:16:05,268 --> 00:16:07,618 We need to go for a beer. 326 00:16:07,662 --> 00:16:09,359 Don't like the sound of that. 327 00:16:09,403 --> 00:16:11,274 We need to go for a beer. 328 00:16:11,318 --> 00:16:13,755 ♪♪ 329 00:16:13,798 --> 00:16:16,366 I take it you've seen the news. 330 00:16:16,410 --> 00:16:20,022 Not like I can avoid it. It's beyond fucked. 331 00:16:20,066 --> 00:16:22,459 It's worse than fucked. It's grotesque. 332 00:16:22,503 --> 00:16:24,635 Two beers please. -You got it. 333 00:16:27,899 --> 00:16:29,423 Tell me. 334 00:16:29,466 --> 00:16:31,033 The way it usually works is, 335 00:16:31,077 --> 00:16:33,383 if a guy pleads insanity or incompetence 336 00:16:33,427 --> 00:16:36,256 and should he prevail, he still gets institutionalized. 337 00:16:36,299 --> 00:16:37,953 He goes to a prison with doctors. 338 00:16:37,997 --> 00:16:39,346 And? 339 00:16:39,389 --> 00:16:41,739 Here, it's a little flipped on its head. 340 00:16:41,783 --> 00:16:43,915 If the basis for legal incompetency 341 00:16:43,959 --> 00:16:46,353 is that he's essentially a different person 342 00:16:46,396 --> 00:16:48,877 and that new person is deemed to be neither criminal 343 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:52,315 nor mentally impaired, he can go free. 344 00:16:52,359 --> 00:16:53,621 Beg your pardon? 345 00:16:56,015 --> 00:16:58,060 They're gonna claim that if he gets the Cerebellin 346 00:16:58,104 --> 00:17:00,671 and he remains nonviolent and sane... 347 00:17:00,715 --> 00:17:02,064 They'd release him? 348 00:17:02,108 --> 00:17:04,023 Not today, not tomorrow, maybe not five years from now. 349 00:17:04,066 --> 00:17:06,460 On policy, they'll hold him, but 10 years down the line -- 350 00:17:06,503 --> 00:17:07,591 He killed a bunch of people. 351 00:17:07,635 --> 00:17:10,333 The old Brady. 352 00:17:10,377 --> 00:17:12,814 -Oh, bullshit. -Bill, they got cards to play -- 353 00:17:12,857 --> 00:17:14,555 the coma, the drug therapy, 354 00:17:14,598 --> 00:17:16,426 the -- the unauthorized surgeries. 355 00:17:16,470 --> 00:17:19,212 They're gonna claim that the new Brady has been cured. 356 00:17:19,255 --> 00:17:21,214 Fuck with the rebranding -- "cured." 357 00:17:21,257 --> 00:17:22,737 Look, call it whatever you want, okay? 358 00:17:22,780 --> 00:17:24,086 All I'm saying is that Brady Hartsfield 359 00:17:24,130 --> 00:17:25,827 is becoming a cause. 360 00:17:25,870 --> 00:17:28,003 There's a swell. 361 00:17:28,047 --> 00:17:29,831 Felix Babineau's in fucking Sweden right now 362 00:17:29,874 --> 00:17:31,441 meeting with those Nobel Prize pricks. 363 00:17:31,485 --> 00:17:32,660 And after that, he's going to China. 364 00:17:32,703 --> 00:17:34,009 Yeah, that's to avoid prosecution. 365 00:17:34,053 --> 00:17:35,402 That's what that is. 366 00:17:35,445 --> 00:17:37,230 Even so, his wife is getting booked 367 00:17:37,273 --> 00:17:38,796 on every cable show there is. 368 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:40,972 16 medical schools and counting -- 369 00:17:41,016 --> 00:17:42,409 teaching universities, no less -- 370 00:17:42,452 --> 00:17:44,889 are advocating that he be kept alive and studied. 371 00:17:44,933 --> 00:17:47,370 And the Innocence Project is thinking about coming on 372 00:17:47,414 --> 00:17:48,937 if it can be medically proven 373 00:17:48,980 --> 00:17:50,895 that his brain was materially altered somehow. 374 00:17:50,939 --> 00:17:52,593 Have to be fucking kidding me. 375 00:17:52,636 --> 00:17:54,812 Mental incompetence and the law -- 376 00:17:54,856 --> 00:17:56,336 it's a rich man's out, 377 00:17:56,379 --> 00:17:58,990 and Brady's got a lot of money behind him. 378 00:17:59,034 --> 00:18:01,819 That pharmaceutical company is funding his defense 379 00:18:01,863 --> 00:18:04,822 and his Cerebellin treatments. 380 00:18:04,866 --> 00:18:07,260 I'm looking to face an army of expert testimony, 381 00:18:07,303 --> 00:18:08,652 and here's the kicker. 382 00:18:08,696 --> 00:18:10,437 They don't have to prove incompetence 383 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:11,612 beyond all reasonable doubt. 384 00:18:11,655 --> 00:18:13,309 That's a prosecutor's burden. 385 00:18:13,353 --> 00:18:15,703 All they have to do is show a preponderance of evidence, 386 00:18:15,746 --> 00:18:17,139 which is basically a sliver, 387 00:18:17,183 --> 00:18:21,926 that the old Brady is not the new Brady, and he wins. 388 00:18:21,970 --> 00:18:24,059 I got half a mind to cut a deal for 10 to 15 years. 389 00:18:24,103 --> 00:18:26,714 You've gone fucking mad. 390 00:18:26,757 --> 00:18:28,716 The world's gone fucking mad. 391 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:33,242 The man is faking it. 392 00:18:33,286 --> 00:18:35,157 Faking it.I have to prove it. 393 00:18:35,201 --> 00:18:37,246 Well, prove it, then, and don't be a fucking toad! 394 00:18:37,290 --> 00:18:38,856 Oh, sure, no problem, 395 00:18:38,900 --> 00:18:41,163 except that everyone that knew him back then is dead -- 396 00:18:41,207 --> 00:18:42,773 his mother, his boss.Yeah, 'cause he killed them all. 397 00:18:42,817 --> 00:18:44,340 Even so. 398 00:18:50,738 --> 00:18:52,914 What about me? 399 00:18:52,957 --> 00:18:54,524 I knew him. I interacted with him. 400 00:18:54,568 --> 00:18:56,309 I knew him then. I know him now. 401 00:18:56,352 --> 00:19:00,269 I can testify he's the same fucking guy. 402 00:19:00,313 --> 00:19:03,011 And how do you think that's gonna play, hmm? 403 00:19:03,054 --> 00:19:04,752 Isn't it true, Mr. Hodges, 404 00:19:04,795 --> 00:19:06,971 that you were obsessed with Brady Hartsfield? 405 00:19:07,015 --> 00:19:09,191 Isn't it true, Mr. Hodges, that you tried to kill him? 406 00:19:09,235 --> 00:19:12,890 Isn't it true that you think he's capable of mental control? 407 00:19:12,934 --> 00:19:14,892 Isn't it true, Detective, that you think my client 408 00:19:14,936 --> 00:19:16,677 inhabited the body of Library Al 409 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:18,287 in order to kill the ADA's dog? 410 00:19:18,331 --> 00:19:19,593 Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.You'll hardly win the day, Bill. 411 00:19:22,161 --> 00:19:24,946 Lou. 412 00:19:24,989 --> 00:19:26,252 Sorry? 413 00:19:26,295 --> 00:19:28,776 Lou Linklatter. 414 00:19:28,819 --> 00:19:31,474 She knew him better than anybody. 415 00:19:31,518 --> 00:19:32,780 Plus, she's one of his victims. 416 00:19:36,262 --> 00:19:38,351 In a courtroom? 417 00:19:38,394 --> 00:19:40,701 With him in the room, awake? 418 00:19:40,744 --> 00:19:46,272 The thing is...you're in the best position 419 00:19:46,315 --> 00:19:48,361 to tell the court that he's the same person. 420 00:19:48,404 --> 00:19:49,275 It's as simple as that. 421 00:19:52,278 --> 00:19:55,411 [ Scoffs ] I'm not a -- I'm not a fucking doctor. 422 00:19:55,455 --> 00:19:58,806 I-I'm not -- I mean, who -- 423 00:19:58,849 --> 00:20:01,461 who am I to judge Brady Hartsfield's sanity? 424 00:20:01,504 --> 00:20:04,203 It's different from sanity. 425 00:20:04,246 --> 00:20:06,379 Insanity is, did he know right from wrong? 426 00:20:06,422 --> 00:20:08,816 Incompetence goes to, can he help himself at trial? 427 00:20:08,859 --> 00:20:11,297 And if he successfully convinces the judge 428 00:20:11,340 --> 00:20:14,735 that it's not him, that it's a different person -- 429 00:20:14,778 --> 00:20:15,779 Wait. Are you... 430 00:20:17,868 --> 00:20:21,176 Are you saying that he actually might get off? 431 00:20:21,220 --> 00:20:25,833 I'm saying that he may avoid having to go to trial altogether. 432 00:20:25,876 --> 00:20:29,532 And if he avoids it on the grounds of being cured... 433 00:20:29,576 --> 00:20:31,491 they might have to set him free. 434 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:36,322 What? 435 00:20:43,459 --> 00:20:45,505 It'll never come to that. 436 00:20:45,548 --> 00:20:48,551 Worst case...we get him civilly committed. 437 00:20:48,595 --> 00:20:49,900 Oh, yeah, a hospital? 438 00:20:49,944 --> 00:20:51,772 'Cause you both know how that turns out. 439 00:20:51,815 --> 00:20:54,470 Which is why we need you to put him in prison. 440 00:20:56,907 --> 00:20:57,908 I can't. 441 00:20:57,952 --> 00:20:58,953 Lou. 442 00:21:02,217 --> 00:21:03,610 You have to. 443 00:21:06,917 --> 00:21:10,660 You knew the Brady Hartsfield that killed those people. 444 00:21:10,704 --> 00:21:13,402 Whatever doctors or experts that they parade in that courtroom, 445 00:21:13,446 --> 00:21:15,012 none of them knew the old Brady. 446 00:21:15,056 --> 00:21:16,884 You did. 447 00:21:16,927 --> 00:21:20,540 Which means that you are the only one in any position 448 00:21:20,583 --> 00:21:23,020 to go into that court and say that he's still here. 449 00:21:23,064 --> 00:21:25,980 Can... 450 00:21:26,023 --> 00:21:29,592 Can I do it without... 451 00:21:29,636 --> 00:21:31,028 being in the same room as him? 452 00:21:34,945 --> 00:21:37,600 For you to be able to say that the new Brady 453 00:21:37,644 --> 00:21:40,864 is the same as the old... 454 00:21:40,908 --> 00:21:43,302 you have to spend some time with the new. 455 00:21:46,522 --> 00:21:48,307 There's no other way out of this. 456 00:21:54,617 --> 00:21:56,837 You know, I've always regarded the judicial process 457 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:58,752 as being its own form of obscenity, 458 00:21:58,795 --> 00:22:02,190 but to see it used like that... 459 00:22:02,233 --> 00:22:05,193 Are you gonna lay that obscenity on the defense attorneys? 460 00:22:05,236 --> 00:22:06,847 Oh, Jesus. Here we go. 461 00:22:06,890 --> 00:22:09,110 Hey, criminally insane death-row inmates 462 00:22:09,153 --> 00:22:10,807 are medicated all the time 463 00:22:10,851 --> 00:22:13,462 just to make them competent enough to be executed. 464 00:22:13,506 --> 00:22:14,855 There's nothing more perverse than that. 465 00:22:14,898 --> 00:22:16,117 Yeah, but this isn't that. 466 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:17,988 No, thiswould be the inverse. 467 00:22:20,687 --> 00:22:22,645 Let me ask you, okay? All right? 468 00:22:22,689 --> 00:22:27,171 Just suppose this Cerebellin drug lobotomizes him in a way 469 00:22:27,215 --> 00:22:30,000 and the former Brady is no more. 470 00:22:30,044 --> 00:22:31,437 Yeah, but I don't believe that to be the case. 471 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:33,482 I-I know, but let's suppose. Let's just suppose it is. 472 00:22:33,526 --> 00:22:37,007 So the old Brady is no more and the new one 473 00:22:37,051 --> 00:22:41,751 bears no real psychological or culpable-intent resemblance. 474 00:22:41,795 --> 00:22:43,884 So what you're suggesting is that I go 475 00:22:43,927 --> 00:22:45,973 and I murder a load of people 476 00:22:46,016 --> 00:22:48,410 and then I get a prescription filled out and we call it a day. 477 00:22:48,454 --> 00:22:49,846 That is not what this is. 478 00:22:49,890 --> 00:22:51,500 Yes, it is.No. No, no, no. 479 00:22:51,544 --> 00:22:53,720 Billy, they experimented on him when he was in a coma. 480 00:22:53,763 --> 00:22:55,635 They operated on him. 481 00:22:55,678 --> 00:22:58,202 They reverse-engineered Frankenstein, 482 00:22:58,246 --> 00:23:00,074 and there's a real possibility 483 00:23:00,117 --> 00:23:03,643 that the person we have is a law-abiding, sane one. 484 00:23:03,686 --> 00:23:05,384 So it leaves us with the question -- 485 00:23:05,427 --> 00:23:08,430 what do we do with this man? Hmm? 486 00:23:08,474 --> 00:23:10,084 Do we punish him for what is essentially 487 00:23:10,127 --> 00:23:11,607 the crimes of someone else? 488 00:23:11,651 --> 00:23:13,261 It wasn't somebody else.No, I know, I know. 489 00:23:13,304 --> 00:23:15,829 I'm just -- Just suppose -- Just suppose that that -- 490 00:23:15,872 --> 00:23:17,004 I -- I... 491 00:23:20,007 --> 00:23:21,965 Maybe I -- I just... 492 00:23:25,491 --> 00:23:27,014 Maybe I should just go. 493 00:23:31,279 --> 00:23:33,934 I really was looking forward to getting in beside you tonight. 494 00:23:33,977 --> 00:23:35,892 What? 495 00:23:35,936 --> 00:23:37,154 I can't. It's just... 496 00:23:37,198 --> 00:23:38,591 Billy, I... 497 00:23:40,462 --> 00:23:42,029 [ Chuckles ] 498 00:23:42,072 --> 00:23:43,552 I mean... 499 00:23:45,511 --> 00:23:46,599 [ Sighs ] 500 00:23:49,819 --> 00:23:51,865 What? Tell me. What is going on with you? 501 00:23:54,215 --> 00:23:55,782 Told you I had an epiphany. 502 00:23:55,825 --> 00:23:57,436 Okay. 503 00:23:57,479 --> 00:24:00,134 Well, was -- was it a sexual epiphany? 504 00:24:00,177 --> 00:24:02,484 Oh, for -- Never mind. 505 00:24:02,528 --> 00:24:03,267 All right, all right, tell me. 506 00:24:03,311 --> 00:24:05,922 What -- Go ahead. 507 00:24:05,966 --> 00:24:07,010 Okay. 508 00:24:10,361 --> 00:24:11,537 When he turned himself in... 509 00:24:11,580 --> 00:24:13,626 Mm. 510 00:24:13,669 --> 00:24:16,716 ...at first, I got really agitated. 511 00:24:19,196 --> 00:24:21,329 I figured it was because I was pissed off 512 00:24:21,372 --> 00:24:24,593 I wasn't the one who got him, okay? 513 00:24:24,637 --> 00:24:27,204 And then after a bit, I started feeling a bit better. 514 00:24:27,248 --> 00:24:28,684 I mean, I didn't even realize, 515 00:24:28,728 --> 00:24:30,686 but actually really a lot better. 516 00:24:30,730 --> 00:24:32,514 You know, the agitation, I think, 517 00:24:32,558 --> 00:24:37,214 was because I didn't really trust that he'd been caught. 518 00:24:37,258 --> 00:24:39,042 I figured he was gaming it... Mm. 519 00:24:39,086 --> 00:24:40,957 ...which, like, now, seeing everything that's happened... 520 00:24:41,001 --> 00:24:42,568 Yeah. 521 00:24:42,611 --> 00:24:43,873 ...pretty good assessment, I would say. 522 00:24:43,917 --> 00:24:46,267 Pretty fucking accurate, if you ask me. 523 00:24:48,356 --> 00:24:50,924 And so, um -- so, this -- this is the epiphany? 524 00:24:50,967 --> 00:24:53,274 No, I didn't get to the fucking epiphany yet.All right, okay. All right, I'm sorry. 525 00:24:53,317 --> 00:24:55,232 Go ahead. Go. 526 00:24:55,276 --> 00:24:56,625 Tell me. 527 00:24:59,062 --> 00:25:02,588 Anyway, I was sitting in jail... 528 00:25:02,631 --> 00:25:05,547 after I decided not to choke him... 529 00:25:10,204 --> 00:25:13,120 ...and it suddenly hit me that he really was caught. 530 00:25:13,163 --> 00:25:16,297 I mean, caughtcaught. 531 00:25:16,340 --> 00:25:19,866 It was all finally over. 532 00:25:19,909 --> 00:25:21,389 Hmm. 533 00:25:21,432 --> 00:25:23,913 Like a ton of bricks... 534 00:25:23,957 --> 00:25:25,611 just hit me. 535 00:25:28,004 --> 00:25:30,920 And... 536 00:25:30,964 --> 00:25:35,359 my first thought... 537 00:25:35,403 --> 00:25:37,187 was being home, 538 00:25:37,231 --> 00:25:40,887 feeding Fred, going into the shed, 539 00:25:40,930 --> 00:25:42,845 digging out me old paints -- Remember me old paints? 540 00:25:42,889 --> 00:25:44,281 Mm. 541 00:25:44,325 --> 00:25:45,239 When was the last time you painted? 542 00:25:45,282 --> 00:25:48,155 I know. Mm. 543 00:25:48,198 --> 00:25:49,417 And you said to me, 544 00:25:49,460 --> 00:25:52,202 "After Brady Hartsfield, what then? 545 00:25:52,246 --> 00:25:53,552 What's the next obsession?" 546 00:25:53,595 --> 00:25:54,944 But, like, at that moment, 547 00:25:54,988 --> 00:25:58,426 when the thought took hold of him being over, 548 00:25:58,469 --> 00:26:00,602 I didn't say to myself, 549 00:26:00,646 --> 00:26:03,126 "Okay, who's next? What's next?" 550 00:26:03,170 --> 00:26:06,608 You know, my mind went, amazingly, to my fucking paints. 551 00:26:06,652 --> 00:26:08,828 Mm-hmm. 552 00:26:08,871 --> 00:26:10,003 There's not gonna be another one. 553 00:26:10,046 --> 00:26:11,918 Brady was it. 554 00:26:11,961 --> 00:26:15,312 I -- I was just looking to finish a job, okay? 555 00:26:15,356 --> 00:26:18,838 The job was him. 556 00:26:18,881 --> 00:26:20,535 I felt like an empty sack of shit 557 00:26:20,579 --> 00:26:22,450 when I retired... Mm-hmm. 558 00:26:22,493 --> 00:26:24,060 ...because I was a failure. 559 00:26:24,104 --> 00:26:26,933 You know what I mean? 560 00:26:26,976 --> 00:26:32,068 But...I'm not fundamentally damaged. 561 00:26:32,112 --> 00:26:34,462 I've been tormented, but... 562 00:26:34,505 --> 00:26:37,639 torment pretty much limited to Brady Hartsfield. 563 00:26:37,683 --> 00:26:40,686 Once he's over, that's it. 564 00:26:40,729 --> 00:26:42,122 I guess what I'm trying to say is there's -- 565 00:26:42,165 --> 00:26:45,212 there's hope for me yet, you know? 566 00:26:45,255 --> 00:26:48,128 [ Sighs ] I-I just thought that... 567 00:26:50,521 --> 00:26:52,088 ...that kind of sense of hope... 568 00:26:53,742 --> 00:26:56,484 Would... 569 00:26:56,527 --> 00:26:58,529 Would get me in the sack again? 570 00:27:04,579 --> 00:27:05,885 With any luck. 571 00:27:05,928 --> 00:27:08,539 [ Chuckles ] 572 00:27:09,628 --> 00:27:11,455 Yeah. 573 00:27:12,848 --> 00:27:15,721 That's it. 574 00:27:15,764 --> 00:27:18,506 That's the epiphany. 575 00:27:18,549 --> 00:27:19,681 There's not gonna be another one, Donna. 576 00:27:19,725 --> 00:27:21,422 I can see this clear as day. 577 00:27:24,120 --> 00:27:26,253 [ Indistinct shouting ] 578 00:27:33,216 --> 00:27:36,393 If one was to compare Mr. Hartsfield's appearance, 579 00:27:36,437 --> 00:27:40,006 anatomical features, fingerprints, he is the same. 580 00:27:40,049 --> 00:27:43,705 My research team has identified some isolated cases 581 00:27:43,749 --> 00:27:46,055 in which patients have experienced 582 00:27:46,099 --> 00:27:48,754 hyper-empathy after brain surgery. 583 00:27:48,797 --> 00:27:52,714 Mr. Hartsfield's cognitive development materialized 584 00:27:52,758 --> 00:27:55,325 through the administration of a next-gen drug called Cerebellin. 585 00:27:55,369 --> 00:27:57,458 Dr. Young: Well, it's clear that the Cerebellin 586 00:27:57,501 --> 00:27:59,068 is directly affecting the -- -It is undeniable -- 587 00:27:59,112 --> 00:28:00,853 -...that our ability to... -But after meticulous -- 588 00:28:00,896 --> 00:28:02,985 -...for epilepsy... -...what defines our humanity... 589 00:28:03,029 --> 00:28:05,727 Cora: This drug, it saved Brady Hartsfield. 590 00:28:05,771 --> 00:28:07,816 It transformed him. 591 00:28:07,860 --> 00:28:09,731 And, more importantly, it can save others. 592 00:28:15,824 --> 00:28:18,392 Is court over for the day already? 593 00:28:18,435 --> 00:28:21,264 Ugh, couldn't take any more of it. 594 00:28:21,308 --> 00:28:26,313 Doctor after doctor saying he's a changed man. 595 00:28:26,356 --> 00:28:29,795 The molecular structure of the brain bullshit. 596 00:28:29,838 --> 00:28:32,449 It's beyond lunacy. 597 00:28:32,493 --> 00:28:35,626 Well, like you say, we drove off the logic bridge 598 00:28:35,670 --> 00:28:37,498 a long time ago. 599 00:28:37,541 --> 00:28:39,369 [ Sighs ] 600 00:28:39,413 --> 00:28:42,590 Hey, look, the judge isn't gonna fall for this. 601 00:28:44,940 --> 00:28:46,986 We can only hope so. 602 00:28:50,816 --> 00:28:52,513 Ida called. 603 00:28:52,556 --> 00:28:55,777 Um, the gazebo's almost finished and so she wants to have 604 00:28:55,821 --> 00:29:00,129 a kind of a "gazebo is almost finished"-warming tea party? 605 00:29:00,173 --> 00:29:02,131 Well, that clinches it. 606 00:29:02,175 --> 00:29:05,395 The world is totally fucking mad. 607 00:29:05,439 --> 00:29:07,528 A mass killer stands to go free, 608 00:29:07,571 --> 00:29:09,704 but let's all go and have tea. 609 00:29:09,748 --> 00:29:10,661 Well, it seemed important to her, 610 00:29:10,705 --> 00:29:12,272 so I-I think we should go. 611 00:29:15,754 --> 00:29:17,016 Okay. 612 00:29:19,496 --> 00:29:21,194 So, how's Montez doing? 613 00:29:21,237 --> 00:29:22,586 Best he can. 614 00:29:32,683 --> 00:29:35,077 I think this could all come down to Lou. 615 00:29:37,776 --> 00:29:40,300 Oh. I certainly hope not. 616 00:29:40,343 --> 00:29:44,739 I mean, she's not doing very well at all. 617 00:29:44,783 --> 00:29:46,828 [ Sighs ] 618 00:29:46,872 --> 00:29:49,788 You're gonna have to hand-hold her, Holly. 619 00:29:49,831 --> 00:29:52,355 She's the only one who can tell the court 620 00:29:52,399 --> 00:29:55,228 that the old Hartsfield is still among us -- the only one. 621 00:29:55,271 --> 00:29:57,708 I know, but the idea of being alone with him is -- 622 00:29:57,752 --> 00:30:00,711 Well, that's where you come in. 623 00:30:00,755 --> 00:30:03,627 No one knows anxiety from the inside like you. 624 00:30:06,195 --> 00:30:08,589 We have to get her into that courtroom. 625 00:30:11,418 --> 00:30:14,595 Was he really the same when you were in jail with him? 626 00:30:14,638 --> 00:30:16,684 I mean, he -- he was the same? 627 00:30:19,078 --> 00:30:22,690 He didn't strike me as altogether the same, 628 00:30:22,733 --> 00:30:26,346 but not altogether different, either. 629 00:30:26,389 --> 00:30:29,131 Enough the same, that's for sure. 630 00:30:31,525 --> 00:30:34,223 That's an unusual request, Mr. Montez. 631 00:30:34,267 --> 00:30:36,878 I get that, Judge, but for all the forensic psychiatrists, 632 00:30:36,922 --> 00:30:40,012 none of them have foundation on the issue of changed man. 633 00:30:40,055 --> 00:30:41,622 None of them knew the old Brady Hartsfield. 634 00:30:41,665 --> 00:30:43,276 Miss Linklatter did. 635 00:30:43,319 --> 00:30:44,451 But in order to compare the old Brady 636 00:30:44,494 --> 00:30:46,279 to the so-called new one, 637 00:30:46,322 --> 00:30:48,020 she's gonna have to meet him. 638 00:30:48,063 --> 00:30:51,675 Your Honor, this woman is obviously going to be biased. 639 00:30:51,719 --> 00:30:54,765 I mean, she's a former victim of Mr. Mercedes. 640 00:30:54,809 --> 00:30:56,593 The court can take judicial notice of her biases, 641 00:30:56,637 --> 00:30:58,291 her fears, her post-traumatic stress 642 00:30:58,334 --> 00:30:59,770 associated with your client. 643 00:30:59,814 --> 00:31:01,816 You simply cannot order a defendant 644 00:31:01,860 --> 00:31:04,123 to meet with a witness for the prosecution. 645 00:31:04,166 --> 00:31:06,865 Of course I can. This is a competency hearing. 646 00:31:06,908 --> 00:31:08,736 Every doctor who ran a test on him 647 00:31:08,779 --> 00:31:10,956 was potentially a prosecution witness. 648 00:31:10,999 --> 00:31:12,914 Moreover, before I even begin to consider 649 00:31:12,958 --> 00:31:15,177 letting a mass murderer off the legal hook, 650 00:31:15,221 --> 00:31:17,571 I'm gonna consider every piece of evidence that I can. 651 00:31:19,529 --> 00:31:21,357 Both: Thank you, Your Honor. 652 00:31:21,401 --> 00:31:24,883 He's shackled and handcuffed. 653 00:31:24,926 --> 00:31:28,147 And there will be a camera on at all times. 654 00:31:28,190 --> 00:31:30,671 Why can't there be a guard in the room? 655 00:31:30,714 --> 00:31:33,413 There can be if you want one. 656 00:31:33,456 --> 00:31:36,895 Lou, we think you've a better shot at candor if you're alone. 657 00:31:39,636 --> 00:31:42,988 Lou, you -- you can do this. 658 00:31:43,031 --> 00:31:45,816 And if you get scared and you want a guard to go in, 659 00:31:45,860 --> 00:31:48,167 just touch your hand to your head, and that'll be the signal. 660 00:31:48,210 --> 00:31:51,648 Someone will go in and help you. 661 00:31:51,692 --> 00:31:53,694 I don't un-- I don't understand 662 00:31:53,737 --> 00:31:56,915 what you're expecting me to do here. 663 00:31:56,958 --> 00:32:00,266 Just go in and talk to him... 664 00:32:00,309 --> 00:32:01,920 see where it goes. 665 00:32:01,963 --> 00:32:04,096 You can do this. 666 00:32:04,139 --> 00:32:06,446 I know you can. 667 00:32:13,757 --> 00:32:18,849 ♪♪ 668 00:32:18,893 --> 00:32:20,242 [ Door unlocks, opens ] 669 00:32:20,286 --> 00:32:27,075 ♪♪ 670 00:32:27,119 --> 00:32:28,859 [ Lock clicks ] 671 00:32:28,903 --> 00:32:36,911 ♪♪ 672 00:32:36,955 --> 00:32:45,180 ♪♪ 673 00:32:45,224 --> 00:32:53,580 ♪♪ 674 00:33:03,851 --> 00:33:07,159 [ Breathing deeply ] 675 00:33:11,206 --> 00:33:14,340 [ Clears throat quietly ] 676 00:33:14,383 --> 00:33:19,084 Um...I s-suppose we should try and make eye contact. 677 00:33:22,522 --> 00:33:24,002 I don't want to look at you. 678 00:33:33,794 --> 00:33:35,839 I'm so sorry. 679 00:34:02,475 --> 00:34:04,694 So you remember, then? 680 00:34:04,738 --> 00:34:08,829 I have a memory of seeing it... 681 00:34:08,872 --> 00:34:10,091 of doing it. 682 00:34:10,135 --> 00:34:11,353 Um... 683 00:34:13,877 --> 00:34:17,881 I know it was this hand that...held the knife, 684 00:34:17,925 --> 00:34:21,581 but...it belonged to a different person. 685 00:34:28,718 --> 00:34:30,981 You're just scamming this, Brady. 686 00:34:31,025 --> 00:34:34,159 I'm sure that's what people think. 687 00:34:34,202 --> 00:34:36,857 And I don't really care. 688 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:42,167 But I do care what you believe. 689 00:34:42,210 --> 00:34:44,691 Why? 690 00:34:44,734 --> 00:34:46,954 You're a changed person, so... 691 00:34:46,997 --> 00:34:49,217 we don't have a relationship. 692 00:34:49,261 --> 00:34:52,568 I remember you... 693 00:34:52,612 --> 00:34:56,659 us, and the -- the talks we had... 694 00:35:00,141 --> 00:35:02,100 ...the way we, uh... 695 00:35:02,143 --> 00:35:06,016 [chuckles] the way we goofed on Robi, 696 00:35:06,060 --> 00:35:09,672 anyone else that looked down on us and... 697 00:35:09,716 --> 00:35:11,413 dismissed us. 698 00:35:16,549 --> 00:35:18,638 You were the only person I talked to. 699 00:35:22,163 --> 00:35:24,296 The shit we could do with computers. 700 00:35:28,648 --> 00:35:30,693 We were gonna take over the world. 701 00:35:34,393 --> 00:35:35,959 Remember? 702 00:35:45,230 --> 00:35:47,710 I still find it hard... 703 00:35:47,754 --> 00:35:50,322 to imagine that I could've harmed you. 704 00:35:50,365 --> 00:35:51,758 Harm me? 705 00:35:55,240 --> 00:35:58,025 You killed me. 706 00:35:58,068 --> 00:35:59,766 [ Sniffles ] 707 00:35:59,809 --> 00:36:03,248 It's not like I didn't have friends, no family. 708 00:36:06,251 --> 00:36:11,081 [ Voice breaking ] You were the only one that knew me... 709 00:36:11,125 --> 00:36:12,648 and you got me. 710 00:36:15,869 --> 00:36:18,524 You got me, and you fucking stabbed me. 711 00:36:21,222 --> 00:36:22,615 [ Sighs ] 712 00:36:22,658 --> 00:36:24,660 You fucking killed me forever, Brady. 713 00:36:30,231 --> 00:36:32,364 [ Sniffles ] 714 00:36:32,407 --> 00:36:35,410 All right, so you remember. 715 00:36:35,454 --> 00:36:39,545 Then I'm assuming you remember why. 716 00:36:39,588 --> 00:36:42,461 I was finishing a masterpiece. 717 00:36:42,504 --> 00:36:45,377 You would've turned me in. I thought, "Prevent that." 718 00:36:45,420 --> 00:36:46,508 Oh, yeah? 719 00:36:50,251 --> 00:36:53,907 One of the only times I felt. 720 00:36:53,950 --> 00:36:57,040 When I drove over those people, I didn't feel. 721 00:36:57,084 --> 00:36:59,391 [ Sniffles ] 722 00:36:59,434 --> 00:37:02,655 When I blew up the car, I didn't feel. 723 00:37:02,698 --> 00:37:05,571 When I killed Robi... 724 00:37:05,614 --> 00:37:07,225 I didn't feel. 725 00:37:11,229 --> 00:37:16,408 And when my mother died...I felt. 726 00:37:16,451 --> 00:37:22,457 And...when I did what I did to you, I felt. 727 00:37:29,595 --> 00:37:32,206 I was every bit the monster they claimed me to be. 728 00:37:32,250 --> 00:37:35,078 I was that. 729 00:37:35,122 --> 00:37:39,779 But when I look for clues that...I was more than that, 730 00:37:39,822 --> 00:37:42,434 I was capable of compassion, 731 00:37:42,477 --> 00:37:46,351 I think of my mother... 732 00:37:46,394 --> 00:37:47,700 and I think of you. 733 00:37:47,743 --> 00:37:52,487 [ Breathing heavily ] 734 00:37:52,531 --> 00:37:54,228 Fuck. 735 00:37:54,272 --> 00:37:57,623 My lawyer says this is so you can testify 736 00:37:57,666 --> 00:38:00,669 that I'm still the same person...[ Sniffles ] 737 00:38:00,713 --> 00:38:02,628 ...so I'll be held accountable. 738 00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:07,720 He advised me to make sure you understand 739 00:38:07,763 --> 00:38:10,505 that I'm -- I'm not that person. 740 00:38:16,206 --> 00:38:17,556 [ Sighs ] 741 00:38:17,599 --> 00:38:19,862 I'm gonna make this easy for you. 742 00:38:19,906 --> 00:38:23,910 As much as I want to believe that... 743 00:38:23,953 --> 00:38:27,130 the old me is completely extinguished, 744 00:38:29,045 --> 00:38:31,483 I still remember. 745 00:38:34,312 --> 00:38:36,749 I remember you, 746 00:38:36,792 --> 00:38:39,969 how we were, and... 747 00:38:40,013 --> 00:38:42,232 [ Sighs ] 748 00:38:42,276 --> 00:38:44,147 ...our friendship. 749 00:38:44,191 --> 00:38:46,280 That portion of me is not gone. 750 00:38:49,327 --> 00:38:52,199 He's still here. 751 00:38:52,242 --> 00:38:54,288 So you can tell them that. 752 00:38:58,336 --> 00:39:00,338 I'm still here. 753 00:39:00,381 --> 00:39:06,213 ♪♪ 754 00:39:06,256 --> 00:39:12,219 ♪♪ 755 00:39:12,262 --> 00:39:14,221 I just want you to forgive me. 756 00:39:14,264 --> 00:39:21,663 ♪♪ 757 00:39:21,707 --> 00:39:29,105 ♪♪ 758 00:39:29,149 --> 00:39:36,548 ♪♪ 759 00:39:36,591 --> 00:39:38,419 Are you still gonna call her? 760 00:39:38,463 --> 00:39:40,160 Have to. 761 00:39:40,203 --> 00:39:42,380 The fact that she might be a sympathetic witness 762 00:39:42,423 --> 00:39:44,556 to the defendant only makes her that much more compelling. 763 00:39:44,599 --> 00:39:46,514 All we need is for her to testify that he's the same guy. 764 00:39:46,558 --> 00:39:49,038 She stands ready to do that. 765 00:39:49,082 --> 00:39:50,475 So why the long face? 766 00:39:52,259 --> 00:39:53,782 [ Chuckles ] 767 00:39:53,826 --> 00:39:56,394 Well, another little development has popped up. 768 00:39:56,437 --> 00:39:58,004 Now what? 769 00:39:58,047 --> 00:39:59,658 Evidently, the federal government 770 00:39:59,701 --> 00:40:02,661 is drafting a habeas petition. 771 00:40:02,704 --> 00:40:04,358 They want Brady transferred to them. 772 00:40:04,402 --> 00:40:06,229 What? Now? Why? 773 00:40:06,273 --> 00:40:09,015 Oh, you're gonna love this. 774 00:40:09,058 --> 00:40:10,538 Public safety. 775 00:40:10,582 --> 00:40:12,366 And not the good, old-fashioned, 776 00:40:12,410 --> 00:40:14,542 red-white-and-blue, lock-him-up public safety. 777 00:40:14,586 --> 00:40:16,718 Rather the "Let's save millions of lives and billions of dollars 778 00:40:16,762 --> 00:40:19,286 in healthcare costs" public safety. 779 00:40:19,329 --> 00:40:21,244 They want him transferred to Springfield, Missouri, 780 00:40:21,288 --> 00:40:23,072 so he can continue to be studied. 781 00:40:23,116 --> 00:40:25,988 Before trial? Can that happen? 782 00:40:26,032 --> 00:40:27,425 I hope not. 783 00:40:27,468 --> 00:40:29,383 This man is a monster. 784 00:40:29,427 --> 00:40:32,081 Yeah, well, we make deals with monsters. 785 00:40:32,125 --> 00:40:34,344 Whether they're terrorists, organized-crime members, 786 00:40:34,388 --> 00:40:37,957 drug dealers, we cut deals with killers every day. 787 00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:39,654 It all comes down to whether more people are helped 788 00:40:39,698 --> 00:40:42,091 than harmed in the equation. 789 00:40:42,135 --> 00:40:44,311 Yeah, that's exactly the shit that Babineau's wife 790 00:40:44,354 --> 00:40:45,878 is trying to sell on the TV. 791 00:40:45,921 --> 00:40:48,837 You know, I desperately wanted this case. 792 00:40:48,881 --> 00:40:51,231 I thought it would make me, 793 00:40:51,274 --> 00:40:53,363 that my career would skyrocket. 794 00:40:55,453 --> 00:40:57,280 He's gonna fucking destroy me. 795 00:40:57,324 --> 00:40:58,673 He has a knack for that. 796 00:41:01,807 --> 00:41:04,679 He killed my fucking dog, too. 797 00:41:04,723 --> 00:41:06,289 Get a new fucking dog. 798 00:41:08,248 --> 00:41:10,642 Tell that to my family. 799 00:41:12,818 --> 00:41:14,820 He killed my girlfriend. 800 00:41:21,566 --> 00:41:23,611 -I'd like to propose a toast. -Oh. 801 00:41:23,655 --> 00:41:26,527 First to almost finishing the gazebo. 802 00:41:26,571 --> 00:41:28,660 Oh, hear, hear. 803 00:41:28,703 --> 00:41:30,096 And, by the way, it will be finished, 804 00:41:30,139 --> 00:41:32,664 just FYI.Absolutely, absolutely. 805 00:41:32,707 --> 00:41:34,666 After a year at Harvard, 806 00:41:34,709 --> 00:41:38,539 um...I see the importance of working with your hands. 807 00:41:38,583 --> 00:41:40,019 I mean, first of all, you understand 808 00:41:40,062 --> 00:41:43,326 the hand/brain connection, right?I do, yeah. 809 00:41:43,370 --> 00:41:45,938 The hand is actually a cueing organ that teaches the cortex 810 00:41:45,981 --> 00:41:48,418 the kinesthesia of motor action, so -- 811 00:41:48,462 --> 00:41:50,551 Jesus fuck, can we just have a sip of tea 812 00:41:50,595 --> 00:41:53,075 without discussing the wonders of the human brain? 813 00:41:53,119 --> 00:41:56,426 [ Sighs ] Yeah, fair enough. 814 00:41:56,470 --> 00:41:58,603 -You okay? -Yeah, yeah, yeah. 815 00:41:58,646 --> 00:42:00,735 [ Scoffs ] Well, I have a second part to the toast, 816 00:42:00,779 --> 00:42:03,216 and it's for you. 817 00:42:03,259 --> 00:42:06,480 Ah, make me feel like shit now, why don't ya? 818 00:42:06,524 --> 00:42:08,874 -[ Chuckles ] -Hey, shh. 819 00:42:08,917 --> 00:42:11,006 A little over a year ago, you came to me, 820 00:42:11,050 --> 00:42:12,660 needing help with your computer, 821 00:42:12,704 --> 00:42:15,794 saying you had, uh, vanishing e-mails, 822 00:42:15,837 --> 00:42:17,796 and I thought, "You're crazy." 823 00:42:17,839 --> 00:42:19,101 [ Chuckles ] 824 00:42:19,145 --> 00:42:20,581 And then you claimed that there were messages 825 00:42:20,625 --> 00:42:22,452 popping up on your TV screen, 826 00:42:22,496 --> 00:42:25,151 so I thought again, "You're crazy." 827 00:42:25,194 --> 00:42:26,631 Fast-forward a year later, 828 00:42:26,674 --> 00:42:29,111 you say a brain-dead guy is conscious. 829 00:42:29,155 --> 00:42:31,374 Very fucking crazy. 830 00:42:31,418 --> 00:42:34,464 Fast-forward again, you say that brain-dead guy in a coma 831 00:42:34,508 --> 00:42:37,163 is controlling people with his mind. 832 00:42:37,206 --> 00:42:40,209 So fucking crazy, Bill. 833 00:42:40,253 --> 00:42:44,083 And then he woke up, 834 00:42:44,126 --> 00:42:45,693 he escapes the hospital, 835 00:42:45,737 --> 00:42:48,653 and now they might possibly let him go 836 00:42:48,696 --> 00:42:50,611 for the greater good of society. 837 00:42:50,655 --> 00:42:54,310 Very long toast, Jerome. 838 00:42:54,354 --> 00:42:57,618 What I'm trying to say is... 839 00:42:57,662 --> 00:42:59,620 I love you. 840 00:42:59,664 --> 00:43:03,406 And the crazy ain't in you, old man. 841 00:43:03,450 --> 00:43:06,453 It's this fucked-up world. 842 00:43:06,496 --> 00:43:08,803 -Hear, hear. -Yes, hear, hear. 843 00:43:08,847 --> 00:43:10,500 -Cheers. -All right, I have a toast now. 844 00:43:10,544 --> 00:43:11,501 -Oh, wow. -Okay. 845 00:43:11,545 --> 00:43:13,460 They say, uh... 846 00:43:13,503 --> 00:43:15,941 Somebody said it's not the destination, it's the journey. 847 00:43:15,984 --> 00:43:17,507 -Who is it who said that? -I don't fucking know. 848 00:43:17,551 --> 00:43:19,771 Somebody said it, all right? 849 00:43:19,814 --> 00:43:22,687 Jesus, you let him bang on for ages.Well, I -- 850 00:43:22,730 --> 00:43:25,080 [ Giggles ] 851 00:43:25,124 --> 00:43:27,605 Look, however this ends, okay, however this ends... 852 00:43:30,042 --> 00:43:33,219 ...I met you guys on this journey, and, uh -- 853 00:43:33,262 --> 00:43:35,134 and I love every one of ya. 854 00:43:35,177 --> 00:43:36,657 All that stuff. 855 00:43:36,701 --> 00:43:39,442 So that's the end of the toast. 856 00:43:39,486 --> 00:43:41,662 Now can we drink before the tea goes cold? 857 00:43:41,706 --> 00:43:43,533 -Hear, hear. -Cheers. 858 00:43:43,577 --> 00:43:45,448 [ Cups clink ] 859 00:43:47,712 --> 00:43:50,540 [ Indistinct shouting ] 860 00:44:01,116 --> 00:44:03,379 Man: Please take everything out of your pockets. 861 00:44:03,423 --> 00:44:07,079 If you have a wristwatch on, place it in the bucket, please. 862 00:44:07,122 --> 00:44:08,297 Thank you. 863 00:44:13,912 --> 00:44:16,523 Wait. Do I have to make eye contact with him? 864 00:44:16,566 --> 00:44:20,005 No, just...answer the lawyers' questions. 865 00:44:20,048 --> 00:44:22,834 You don't have to look at anybody specifically. 866 00:44:22,877 --> 00:44:26,402 You know, if you feel yourself getting weak, you can just look at me. 867 00:44:26,446 --> 00:44:29,318 Oh, I don't know if I can do this. 868 00:44:29,362 --> 00:44:32,278 Lou, the hardest thing you'll ever have to do 869 00:44:32,321 --> 00:44:33,845 is be alone in a room with him, 870 00:44:33,888 --> 00:44:36,195 which you already did, okay, so you can do this. 871 00:44:36,238 --> 00:44:38,719 I mean, when things get really hard sometimes, 872 00:44:38,763 --> 00:44:40,895 I tell myself that I'm gonna hold my breath 873 00:44:40,939 --> 00:44:43,463 for the rest of my life, which, of course, is impossible. 874 00:44:43,506 --> 00:44:45,465 I mean, no one can hold their breath forever, 875 00:44:45,508 --> 00:44:48,163 but next to that, you know, everything seems simple. 876 00:44:48,207 --> 00:44:50,992 So just tell yourself you're gonna hold your breath. 877 00:44:51,036 --> 00:44:54,169 But don't. But just, um, take breaths. 878 00:44:54,213 --> 00:44:58,260 Just...deep...breaths. 879 00:44:58,304 --> 00:44:59,261 [ Exhales deeply ] 880 00:44:59,305 --> 00:45:01,220 -Uh, Holly? -Mm-hmm? 881 00:45:01,263 --> 00:45:02,874 Stop helping. 882 00:45:02,917 --> 00:45:06,878 [ Chuckles ] Sorry. 883 00:45:06,921 --> 00:45:08,140 Reporter: Miss Linklatter.Just -- Sorry. 884 00:45:08,183 --> 00:45:09,881 [ Camera shutter clicking ]Miss Linkla-- 885 00:45:09,924 --> 00:45:13,580 I'll break that thing right over your fucking head. 886 00:45:13,623 --> 00:45:15,800 Lou: He's the same person. 887 00:45:15,843 --> 00:45:16,844 Are you sure about that? 888 00:45:16,888 --> 00:45:19,151 Positive. 889 00:45:19,194 --> 00:45:21,588 Is he totally the same person? No. 890 00:45:23,372 --> 00:45:24,678 But he's the Brady I knew. 891 00:45:26,332 --> 00:45:28,464 What did the two of you talk about? 892 00:45:32,512 --> 00:45:36,864 Our friendship...mostly, 893 00:45:36,908 --> 00:45:42,000 the stuff we...used to do on computers... 894 00:45:42,043 --> 00:45:43,784 just stuff. 895 00:45:43,828 --> 00:45:45,438 The two of you were good friends. 896 00:45:47,353 --> 00:45:49,355 He was my best friend. 897 00:45:51,749 --> 00:45:53,402 Did you talk about what he did to you? 898 00:45:53,446 --> 00:45:55,840 Yes... 899 00:45:55,883 --> 00:45:57,929 and he showed remorse. 900 00:45:57,972 --> 00:46:01,062 So he admitted that he was the man who stabbed you. 901 00:46:01,106 --> 00:46:03,151 Yes. 902 00:46:03,195 --> 00:46:04,587 He say anything else? 903 00:46:06,459 --> 00:46:09,549 Basically that he's changed a lot... 904 00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:16,599 ...that he can't fathom what he did to me, 905 00:46:16,643 --> 00:46:19,515 but he remembered doing it and he took ownership of it. 906 00:46:19,559 --> 00:46:21,039 And by ownership, you mean guilt. 907 00:46:21,082 --> 00:46:23,258 Yes. 908 00:46:23,302 --> 00:46:25,826 So when you were sitting in the visitors' room, 909 00:46:25,870 --> 00:46:28,002 you were sitting with a man who took responsibility 910 00:46:28,046 --> 00:46:30,178 and felt guilt for what he had done to you.Yes. 911 00:46:32,833 --> 00:46:34,792 Did he feel guilt for killing those people? 912 00:46:39,274 --> 00:46:40,493 That I don't know. 913 00:46:43,539 --> 00:46:46,194 He said he didn't feel for them... 914 00:46:46,238 --> 00:46:49,328 but that he felt for me. 915 00:46:49,371 --> 00:46:51,156 And after talking to him, 916 00:46:51,199 --> 00:46:54,028 this was the Brady Hartsfield you always knew. 917 00:46:54,072 --> 00:46:56,117 He seemed... 918 00:46:56,161 --> 00:46:58,076 more human? 919 00:47:00,078 --> 00:47:02,210 But he's the Brady I knew. 920 00:47:02,254 --> 00:47:03,821 And based on your personal relationship 921 00:47:03,864 --> 00:47:06,214 and experience with the defendant, 922 00:47:06,258 --> 00:47:08,477 did you form an opinion as to whether or not he had changed? 923 00:47:11,785 --> 00:47:13,918 Again, he's changed some. 924 00:47:13,961 --> 00:47:16,224 He seems... 925 00:47:16,268 --> 00:47:18,618 more compassionate, 926 00:47:18,661 --> 00:47:20,446 capable of remorse... 927 00:47:24,537 --> 00:47:26,974 ...but he's the same sociopath who stabbed me. 928 00:47:27,018 --> 00:47:29,237 [ People murmuring ] 929 00:47:29,281 --> 00:47:31,065 Did you form an opinion as to whether or not 930 00:47:31,109 --> 00:47:33,589 he understands what's going on in these legal proceedings? 931 00:47:33,633 --> 00:47:36,462 He understands. 932 00:47:36,505 --> 00:47:40,814 Brady Hartsfield was [sighs] 933 00:47:40,858 --> 00:47:44,165 and is the most intelligent person I have ever known. 934 00:47:44,209 --> 00:47:45,906 [ People murmuring ] 935 00:47:45,950 --> 00:47:48,213 Thank you. 936 00:47:53,827 --> 00:47:57,004 Judge Helfrick: Mr. Shields. 937 00:47:57,048 --> 00:47:59,877 You said he showed compassion. 938 00:47:59,920 --> 00:48:01,922 Yes. 939 00:48:01,966 --> 00:48:04,142 More compassion than you remember him showing 940 00:48:04,185 --> 00:48:05,273 when you were friends? 941 00:48:06,971 --> 00:48:08,581 Yes. 942 00:48:08,624 --> 00:48:11,540 Did he shed tears in your meeting? 943 00:48:13,978 --> 00:48:15,762 He did. 944 00:48:15,805 --> 00:48:17,938 Have you ever known Brady Hartsfield to cry before? 945 00:48:17,982 --> 00:48:23,030 ♪♪ 946 00:48:23,074 --> 00:48:24,597 -Not really. -"Not really." 947 00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:26,512 This is a yes-or-no question. 948 00:48:26,555 --> 00:48:27,992 Ever known him to cry before? 949 00:48:31,299 --> 00:48:32,735 -No. -Mm-hmm. 950 00:48:32,779 --> 00:48:35,129 So he was different that way. 951 00:48:35,173 --> 00:48:37,305 Yeah, he was different thatway. 952 00:48:37,349 --> 00:48:39,090 In your meeting with Brady yesterday, 953 00:48:39,133 --> 00:48:41,048 did he strike you as a man of conscience? 954 00:48:42,963 --> 00:48:44,704 He did. 955 00:48:44,747 --> 00:48:46,706 And, uh, during your friendship, 956 00:48:46,749 --> 00:48:48,621 did you ever accuse him of lacking a conscience? 957 00:48:52,581 --> 00:48:54,235 I may have said that a few times. 958 00:48:54,279 --> 00:48:58,892 So the old Brady, you questioned whether he had a conscience, 959 00:48:58,936 --> 00:49:02,548 and the Brady that you met with yesterday is different? 960 00:49:04,767 --> 00:49:07,031 Okay.So it's possible 961 00:49:07,074 --> 00:49:11,165 that Brady Hartsfield is fundamentally different 962 00:49:11,209 --> 00:49:14,168 than the Brady you knew as a work colleague. 963 00:49:14,212 --> 00:49:17,171 Look, I said he changed some. 964 00:49:17,215 --> 00:49:18,651 We've all changed. 965 00:49:20,653 --> 00:49:25,223 I'll never be the same because of what he did. 966 00:49:25,266 --> 00:49:28,966 He'll never be the same because of what he did 967 00:49:29,009 --> 00:49:31,098 and because of what was done to him. 968 00:49:36,538 --> 00:49:39,411 But in my core, 969 00:49:39,454 --> 00:49:42,762 I'm the same as I always was, and so is he. 970 00:49:42,805 --> 00:49:45,156 Well, the Brady Hartsfield I talk with 971 00:49:45,199 --> 00:49:47,114 says he can't recognize 972 00:49:47,158 --> 00:49:50,683 the Brady who committed these crimes. 973 00:49:50,726 --> 00:49:52,772 He really struggles with the idea 974 00:49:52,815 --> 00:49:54,817 that he could've committed such acts. 975 00:49:54,861 --> 00:49:57,516 Did, uh, you see that struggle in him yesterday? 976 00:50:01,955 --> 00:50:03,435 I did. 977 00:50:03,478 --> 00:50:05,002 Thank you. 978 00:50:07,830 --> 00:50:10,529 Judge Helfrick: Redirect, Mr. Montez? 979 00:50:10,572 --> 00:50:12,705 No, Your Honor. 980 00:50:12,748 --> 00:50:15,621 Thank you. You may step down. 981 00:50:15,664 --> 00:50:17,405 Lou: Thank you. 982 00:50:38,122 --> 00:50:39,775 I do not forgive you. 983 00:50:43,083 --> 00:50:44,345 I do not. 984 00:50:44,389 --> 00:50:46,478 [ People screaming ] 985 00:50:49,959 --> 00:50:58,838 ♪♪ 986 00:50:58,881 --> 00:51:07,847 ♪♪ 987 00:51:07,890 --> 00:51:16,812 ♪♪ 988 00:51:16,856 --> 00:51:25,778 ♪♪ 989 00:51:25,821 --> 00:51:34,743 ♪♪ 990 00:51:34,787 --> 00:51:43,622 ♪♪ 991 00:51:43,665 --> 00:51:52,848 ♪♪ 992 00:51:52,892 --> 00:51:54,981 Reporter Smith: We can confirm that Brady Hartsfield 993 00:51:55,024 --> 00:51:58,506 was pronounced dead at 3:06 p.m. by the county coroner. 994 00:51:58,550 --> 00:52:01,683 Cause of death was a single gunshot wound to the head. 995 00:52:01,727 --> 00:52:03,772 And what we're learning, Jeanine, 996 00:52:03,816 --> 00:52:06,079 is that the weapon that was used by Lou Linklatter 997 00:52:06,123 --> 00:52:09,909 was, in fact, a 3-D-printable gun that she made herself. 998 00:52:09,952 --> 00:52:11,519 And the ultimate irony? 999 00:52:11,563 --> 00:52:13,217 We're told Brady Hartsfield 1000 00:52:13,260 --> 00:52:15,132 taught her how to make that weapon. 1001 00:52:15,175 --> 00:52:17,308 Anchor Jeanine: How was she able to get it into court? 1002 00:52:17,351 --> 00:52:18,831 Because it was plastic, 1003 00:52:18,874 --> 00:52:20,833 and even the bullet was ceramic, 1004 00:52:20,876 --> 00:52:22,748 so the metal detectors were of no use. 1005 00:52:22,791 --> 00:52:25,751 And it's a wide variety of reactions, as you can imagine, 1006 00:52:25,794 --> 00:52:28,536 but the overriding sentiment is relief. 1007 00:52:28,580 --> 00:52:30,843 Mr. Mercedes is dead, 1008 00:52:30,886 --> 00:52:35,239 and that makes a lot of people around here very happy indeed. 1009 00:52:35,282 --> 00:52:37,632 -Come on, guys! -Come on! Let's go! 1010 00:52:37,676 --> 00:52:39,547 -Yeah! -Let's go! 1011 00:52:39,591 --> 00:52:40,809 -Pass it! -Come on! Pass it! 1012 00:52:40,853 --> 00:52:41,941 -Pass it! -Shoot it! 1013 00:52:41,984 --> 00:52:50,297 ♪♪ 1014 00:52:54,214 --> 00:52:56,825 Ahhh, look at you. 1015 00:52:56,869 --> 00:53:01,743 Monet in his garden. Sort of. Hey, hi. 1016 00:53:01,787 --> 00:53:03,571 Hello. How are you? 1017 00:53:03,615 --> 00:53:05,269 That's -- That's a really -- That looks good. 1018 00:53:05,312 --> 00:53:06,966 It's coming along. 1019 00:53:07,009 --> 00:53:11,275 -[ Sighs ] Thanks. -Nice portrait of, uh, Fred. 1020 00:53:11,318 --> 00:53:14,103 Really. 1021 00:53:14,147 --> 00:53:16,193 I mean, what -- -What? 1022 00:53:16,236 --> 00:53:19,500 I'm here. Why don't you paint my portrait? 1023 00:53:19,544 --> 00:53:21,546 I would love that. 1024 00:53:21,589 --> 00:53:24,331 I, uh -- I-I -- I could never capture your radiance. 1025 00:53:24,375 --> 00:53:26,203 -Oh. Oh, my God. -Look. Look at this. 1026 00:53:26,246 --> 00:53:28,074 Stop. You are such a bullshit artist. [ Laughs ] 1027 00:53:28,117 --> 00:53:29,380 -Stop! -What? I could-- 1028 00:53:29,423 --> 00:53:31,251 Stop. 1029 00:53:31,295 --> 00:53:32,861 I don't have the skill. 1030 00:53:32,905 --> 00:53:34,907 Can't even paint a fucking tortoise. 1031 00:53:45,265 --> 00:53:47,746 Yep. 1032 00:53:47,789 --> 00:53:50,705 Probably see you later, then, I'd say, will I? 1033 00:53:50,749 --> 00:53:52,925 Oh, sorry. Okay. 1034 00:53:52,968 --> 00:53:56,233 I didn't realize I'm intruding on your, uh -- 1035 00:53:56,276 --> 00:53:58,235 your little artist situation here.No, no, no. I didn't mean -- 1036 00:53:58,278 --> 00:54:00,193 No, no.Okay, no, you carry -- you carry on. 1037 00:54:00,237 --> 00:54:01,629 I know when I'm not wanted. 1038 00:54:01,673 --> 00:54:03,631 -I didn't say that. -Oh, listen, 1039 00:54:03,675 --> 00:54:06,373 I'm heading out to Seattle again 1040 00:54:06,417 --> 00:54:09,333 to see Allie next week. 1041 00:54:09,376 --> 00:54:10,725 Oh, yeah? 1042 00:54:10,769 --> 00:54:13,467 You, um -- You feel like joining? 1043 00:54:13,511 --> 00:54:15,513 How'd she feel about that? 1044 00:54:15,556 --> 00:54:18,037 Well, it was her idea, actually. 1045 00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:19,865 Really? 1046 00:54:19,908 --> 00:54:21,214 Mm-hmm. 1047 00:54:21,258 --> 00:54:22,955 Yeah! I'd love to. 1048 00:54:22,998 --> 00:54:24,913 All right. 1049 00:54:24,957 --> 00:54:27,525 I'll send you my flight details.All right. 1050 00:54:27,568 --> 00:54:30,049 Okay, all right. Carry on, there. 1051 00:54:30,092 --> 00:54:31,442 Enjoy. 1052 00:54:44,672 --> 00:54:46,892 -Come on! Center it! -Go, go! 1053 00:54:46,935 --> 00:54:49,808 [ Indistinct shouting ] 1054 00:54:49,851 --> 00:54:52,245 [ Ice-cream truck jingle plays ] 1055 00:54:56,945 --> 00:54:58,512 [ Engine starts ] 1056 00:54:58,556 --> 00:55:02,690 [ Shouting continues ] 1057 00:55:02,734 --> 00:55:03,952 Boy: Shoot! Shoot! 1058 00:55:09,958 --> 00:55:13,092 [ Jackson Browne's "Doctor My Eyes" plays ] 1059 00:55:13,135 --> 00:55:22,493 ♪♪ 1060 00:55:22,536 --> 00:55:31,893 ♪♪ 1061 00:55:31,937 --> 00:55:41,555 ♪♪ 1062 00:55:41,599 --> 00:55:50,956 ♪♪ 1063 00:55:50,999 --> 00:56:00,574 ♪♪ 1064 00:56:00,618 --> 00:56:10,105 ♪♪ 1065 00:56:10,149 --> 00:56:19,724 ♪♪ 1066 00:56:19,767 --> 00:56:29,168 ♪♪ 1067 00:56:29,211 --> 00:56:38,786 ♪♪ 1068 00:56:38,830 --> 00:56:48,187 ♪♪ 1069 00:56:48,230 --> 00:56:57,849 ♪♪ 1070 00:56:57,892 --> 00:57:07,380 ♪♪ 1071 00:57:07,424 --> 00:57:16,955 ♪♪ 1072 00:57:16,998 --> 00:57:26,399 ♪♪ 1073 00:57:26,443 --> 00:57:36,017 ♪♪ 1074 00:57:36,061 --> 00:57:45,462 ♪♪ 1075 00:57:45,505 --> 00:57:55,080 ♪♪ 1076 00:57:55,123 --> 00:58:04,524 ♪♪ 1077 00:58:04,568 --> 00:58:13,968 ♪♪ 1078 00:58:14,012 --> 00:58:23,151 ♪♪ 73198

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