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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:01:49,700 --> 00:01:53,867 - Should have more face than crown on top. 2 00:01:53,867 --> 00:01:57,967 Even when you do this, take that measurement off, 3 00:01:57,967 --> 00:02:01,767 place it on the brim, see where my thumb comes, 4 00:02:01,767 --> 00:02:04,433 my thumb shouldn't go down here. 5 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:09,100 That means the height of the crown is too tall. 6 00:02:09,100 --> 00:02:12,133 Now, as an optical illusion, if you did 7 00:02:12,133 --> 00:02:15,633 a Frank Sinatra like this, that increases, 8 00:02:17,033 --> 00:02:19,300 that appears to lower, I've done nothing physical 9 00:02:19,300 --> 00:02:21,200 with the top part of the hat. 10 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:25,133 If I do it even more, which is the way he used to wear it. 11 00:02:25,133 --> 00:02:29,000 So you've got, that's appearing to look even lower, 12 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:30,433 this is increasing. 13 00:02:30,433 --> 00:02:33,100 You may not like the look, doesn't matter, 14 00:02:33,100 --> 00:02:36,000 but that's what you're trying to achieve. 15 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:38,367 The hat should not overtake the personality 16 00:02:38,367 --> 00:02:40,200 who's wearing it. 17 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:44,033 Unless he wants to, the color, poof, you know. 18 00:09:20,933 --> 00:09:24,000 - I say, is it going to be all night? 19 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:39,967 - I used to work at Lehman Brothers as a chauffer, 20 00:09:41,333 --> 00:09:43,400 and the building outside, we was going there, 21 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:46,600 and we found it, nobody can go inside. 22 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:50,767 And it was about 5,000 people was standing outside. 23 00:09:50,767 --> 00:09:54,433 And we finded out, Lehman went bankrupt. 24 00:09:54,433 --> 00:09:57,533 In 2008, the month was November 2008. 25 00:10:04,033 --> 00:10:08,200 And my wages was docked, but end of the day, I got it back. 26 00:10:16,567 --> 00:10:20,333 I hold their car, because I was driving this, 27 00:10:20,333 --> 00:10:24,233 and it was worth 135,000 pounds, and I hold it, 28 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:31,267 say my wages was docked about 15,000 pounds. 29 00:10:32,700 --> 00:10:36,667 I said until I get paid, I'm not returning the car. 30 00:10:36,667 --> 00:10:39,433 It was locked in that garage. 31 00:10:39,433 --> 00:10:41,567 It was locked about three months. 32 00:10:41,567 --> 00:10:43,033 They couldn't get it, because we were using 33 00:10:43,033 --> 00:10:47,000 my home address in London, they were searching over there, 34 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:49,033 they couldn't found out where is the car. 35 00:10:49,033 --> 00:10:52,433 So when they decided to pay me, I said as soon 36 00:10:52,433 --> 00:10:56,200 as I saw my money, your car is in the office. 37 00:10:58,167 --> 00:11:01,433 Of course I have a dream about curry, because of my dream, 38 00:11:01,433 --> 00:11:05,600 I wanted to be one day a business tycoon, that's my dream. 39 00:11:07,267 --> 00:11:11,200 I wanted to put my business everywhere in the world, 40 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:15,367 like say, at the moment, we had done one in Dubai. 41 00:11:16,833 --> 00:11:20,733 Next one we are thinking to do in Melbourne, Australia. 42 00:11:20,733 --> 00:11:24,900 And two weeks back, I was in Madrid to see a place. 43 00:11:26,367 --> 00:11:29,900 So my mission is like to carry it, 44 00:11:29,900 --> 00:11:32,633 I want to put it every corner of the world, 45 00:11:32,633 --> 00:11:34,767 my place, as a storefront. 46 00:11:34,767 --> 00:11:38,367 Everybody wants to know, who is this place? 47 00:11:50,767 --> 00:11:53,267 This is the only fascinating thing, I like it, 48 00:11:53,267 --> 00:11:56,500 because I always, when I was younger, 49 00:11:56,500 --> 00:11:59,200 like eight nine years old, 50 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:01,967 my mission was only to be a pilot. 51 00:12:03,967 --> 00:12:07,467 But my dad says, "You want to be a pilot?" 52 00:12:08,933 --> 00:12:12,200 I said, "When I grow up, I couldn't become a pilot." 53 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:15,200 But I said to my dad, "I'm a pilot, 54 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:18,467 because I'm creating the curry." 55 00:12:18,467 --> 00:12:22,533 Rather than riding on airplanes, I'm riding on curries. 56 00:12:22,533 --> 00:12:26,833 So I teach people, and I'm proud of myself, 57 00:12:26,833 --> 00:12:29,833 I'm a pilot, I can control everyone. 58 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:50,800 Old days, like when my dad started in 1960s, those days, 59 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:54,967 they made the masala, first, in popular Indian style way. 60 00:12:57,233 --> 00:13:00,000 But when the English people came in for eat, 61 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:02,567 they goes, "No, this is too hot." 62 00:13:02,567 --> 00:13:04,100 Then they put sugar in it. 63 00:13:04,100 --> 00:13:05,633 No, that's not tasty. 64 00:13:05,633 --> 00:13:08,767 Then they put coconut in, they said it's not tasty. 65 00:13:08,767 --> 00:13:13,333 Then they put some cream in, then oh it's too white, 66 00:13:13,333 --> 00:13:16,733 then they put some coloring to make it look nicer. 67 00:13:16,733 --> 00:13:20,900 So then they put little bit almond, little bit sultanas, 68 00:13:20,900 --> 00:13:23,400 then they say, "Oh, that's good taste!" 69 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:26,833 Like this, English people always eat sweet stuff, 70 00:13:26,833 --> 00:13:31,167 so they love something with a sweet in it. 71 00:13:31,167 --> 00:13:36,033 And this is another assistant, all of them are my crews. 72 00:13:36,033 --> 00:13:37,733 I got another two, they off. 73 00:13:37,733 --> 00:13:38,700 Where is Luke? 74 00:13:38,700 --> 00:13:40,133 Tell him to come down. 75 00:13:40,133 --> 00:13:41,800 We've got an Englishman who's been working also here. 76 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:43,700 - Luke! Come down here! 77 00:13:55,233 --> 00:13:56,533 - That's all my crews. 78 00:13:56,533 --> 00:13:59,633 But he is my assistant, that's second assistant, 79 00:13:59,633 --> 00:14:02,933 that's third assistant, and is our great 80 00:14:03,900 --> 00:14:05,900 chef from English place. 81 00:14:06,767 --> 00:14:07,600 - Hi! 82 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:09,867 - He's a Katie. 83 00:14:11,833 --> 00:14:14,900 But we're trying to make him like Indian chef, 84 00:14:14,900 --> 00:14:17,433 and one day he'll become Indian chef. 85 00:14:17,433 --> 00:14:19,600 Yes, it's already working. 86 00:14:22,100 --> 00:14:24,100 - Yeah, sort of, hardly. 87 00:14:26,167 --> 00:14:28,033 - But he loves korma. 88 00:14:28,033 --> 00:14:30,633 - Yeah, chicken korma. 89 00:14:30,633 --> 00:14:31,533 - And masalas. 90 00:14:31,533 --> 00:14:32,600 - Yeah, yeah. 91 00:14:33,767 --> 00:14:36,233 - Okay guys, you can go. 92 00:14:36,233 --> 00:14:37,067 - Thank you. - Thank you. 93 00:14:37,067 --> 00:14:39,267 - Thank you, my man! 94 00:14:39,267 --> 00:14:41,900 When I came in this area, I start this game, 95 00:14:41,900 --> 00:14:43,600 with the restaurant craze. 96 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:45,367 And they invited me for awards. 97 00:14:45,367 --> 00:14:49,800 Each time I go, always success, always win I win I win. 98 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:51,700 So far I win 20 awards. 99 00:14:57,667 --> 00:14:59,133 - Yeah, I love going to the seaside, 100 00:14:59,133 --> 00:15:00,633 especially in the summer. 101 00:15:00,633 --> 00:15:04,133 And sometimes after school, get a take away from here, 102 00:15:04,133 --> 00:15:07,600 and just go and sit on the beach, and it's really nice, 103 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:09,833 because you feel like it's still light, 104 00:15:09,833 --> 00:15:12,800 it's still warm, and you know, you're on the beach. 105 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:14,900 What more could you want? 106 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:47,367 The troops were at the beaches, at Downkirk, 107 00:15:48,733 --> 00:15:52,900 and they had to be evacuated very quickly, 108 00:15:52,900 --> 00:15:56,833 because of the Germans coming in from the back. 109 00:15:58,700 --> 00:16:01,567 And the plea was put out to rescue, 110 00:16:02,733 --> 00:16:04,400 and this was a sort of turning point, 111 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:07,700 because people rallied, and it was the ordinary people in 112 00:16:07,700 --> 00:16:11,867 England that took their boats across to help the soldiers. 113 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:20,700 Seven of the lay people lost their lives out 114 00:16:20,700 --> 00:16:24,433 rescuing the people from the Dunkirk beaches. 115 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:41,667 Rain's coming in now, we get the rain coming 116 00:16:41,667 --> 00:16:45,433 in normally from the west, which is this way. 117 00:20:26,833 --> 00:20:30,200 - Then I decided I would spend the rest of my days, 118 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:32,667 hopefully back in the UK, and I came back 119 00:20:32,667 --> 00:20:36,167 to my mother's property, and I started off 120 00:20:37,767 --> 00:20:41,333 at Lloyd's Bank Westcliff, which was just 121 00:20:41,333 --> 00:20:44,333 a branch on the main street here. 122 00:20:44,333 --> 00:20:48,000 Within a year, I kept with Lloyd's, but they 123 00:20:50,100 --> 00:20:54,533 had started a department called Access Department. 124 00:20:54,533 --> 00:20:58,633 People were given access cards in the early 1970s, 125 00:20:58,633 --> 00:21:03,000 credit cards, and then that was like working 126 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:07,167 for a department of the bank, and it suited me quite a lot. 127 00:21:10,233 --> 00:21:14,400 And I was within a mile or two of walking to work. 128 00:21:16,033 --> 00:21:19,533 And I took early retirement in about 1991, 129 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:24,867 and they gave you a reasonable pension, 130 00:21:26,067 --> 00:21:29,467 and they gave you a modest lump sum, 131 00:21:29,467 --> 00:21:32,433 which I could make use of. 132 00:21:32,433 --> 00:21:36,600 And overall, I think because I wasn't very adaptable 133 00:21:38,233 --> 00:21:41,633 in work, I found that the bank suited me. 134 00:21:42,833 --> 00:21:45,933 They didn't ask you to, in my case anyway, 135 00:21:45,933 --> 00:21:48,733 to do too many obscure things that I would 136 00:21:48,733 --> 00:21:51,000 find difficult in adapting. 137 00:21:52,367 --> 00:21:55,867 So I look back on my working life as suiting me, 138 00:21:57,067 --> 00:22:00,667 whereas it wouldn't necessarily suit others. 139 00:22:03,300 --> 00:22:06,967 As far as South End is concerned, I did join 140 00:22:08,033 --> 00:22:10,833 the South End Astronomical Society, 141 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:13,767 which brought me up to date with a lot 142 00:22:13,767 --> 00:22:16,933 of the things that are going on space. 143 00:22:18,433 --> 00:22:22,600 They screen the films that have been taken by space probes, 144 00:22:26,167 --> 00:22:29,600 and go into detail as to the kind of work 145 00:22:32,833 --> 00:22:36,567 that is carried on by the people that pick up 146 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:41,367 the samples from places like the Moon. 147 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:48,333 So I'm not going to this society at the moment, 148 00:22:49,567 --> 00:22:53,667 I find that a little bit of a strain on the eyes. 149 00:22:55,133 --> 00:22:59,100 But I definitely take out books from the library. 150 00:23:11,833 --> 00:23:13,567 - Well there's a particular shape of hat 151 00:23:13,567 --> 00:23:17,733 that's worn between South End and the outskirts of London, 152 00:23:19,300 --> 00:23:21,300 particularly into London and Convent Garden, 153 00:23:21,300 --> 00:23:24,633 around that way, and that's actually the baker boy cap, 154 00:23:24,633 --> 00:23:27,100 or in America it's known as the newsboy. 155 00:23:27,100 --> 00:23:29,267 In Scotland, it's known as an eight piece, 156 00:23:29,267 --> 00:23:31,233 partly because it has a little button on top 157 00:23:31,233 --> 00:23:34,567 that has segments through, one to eight. 158 00:23:35,733 --> 00:23:38,933 And they start in various widths. 159 00:23:38,933 --> 00:23:42,367 In local communities, you worked in the docks, 160 00:23:42,367 --> 00:23:46,300 Tilbury Docks, Covent Garden, the fruit market, 161 00:23:48,100 --> 00:23:50,700 the flower market, the meat market, 162 00:23:50,700 --> 00:23:52,767 where they were carrying and transporting, 163 00:23:52,767 --> 00:23:55,033 they were porters, really, of some description, 164 00:23:55,033 --> 00:23:58,867 carrying these cargoes of goods on their head. 165 00:24:00,300 --> 00:24:04,133 The button would stop the box hurting their head, 166 00:24:04,133 --> 00:24:05,633 because it had a little button to sort 167 00:24:05,633 --> 00:24:07,800 of take the pressure off the head. 168 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:11,000 And they could stack three or four, carry it quite easily. 169 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:15,000 Obviously, if it's drippy flowers in the Covent Garden, 170 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,667 and you had a narrow baker boy, 171 00:24:17,667 --> 00:24:20,800 and those drips went down your neck from four o'clock 172 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:22,867 in the morning till seven, you made sure 173 00:24:22,867 --> 00:24:24,767 the next day you were dry. 174 00:24:24,767 --> 00:24:27,567 So you had a wider shaped baker boy. 175 00:24:27,567 --> 00:24:29,933 But you didn't go to a trilby hat, as such, 176 00:24:29,933 --> 00:24:31,833 because that was middle class, 177 00:24:31,833 --> 00:24:35,833 you were working class, and you knew your place. 178 00:24:50,467 --> 00:24:53,367 You need some architecture underneath to hold the width out, 179 00:24:53,367 --> 00:24:55,700 otherwise it just collapses. 180 00:24:57,033 --> 00:25:00,533 This first came out around about the 1850s, 181 00:25:01,733 --> 00:25:05,167 and it got synonymous with the potato famine 182 00:25:06,567 --> 00:25:09,800 in Europe and Ireland, and the Irish, 183 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,167 hence the Donegal tweed, went off 184 00:25:12,167 --> 00:25:15,400 to the New World to seek their fortune. 185 00:25:29,300 --> 00:25:31,733 Oh yeah, well I'll start at the left-hand side. 186 00:25:31,733 --> 00:25:34,233 There's a chauffer cap for the 187 00:25:35,867 --> 00:25:38,533 professional driver these days. 188 00:25:38,533 --> 00:25:41,867 There's the wedding parties, emcee work, 189 00:25:44,167 --> 00:25:48,067 prom nightS, bring it up to date, really. 190 00:25:48,067 --> 00:25:50,600 Various colors, it's the sense of authority, 191 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:54,233 it's the sense of trust, so the uniform imparts 192 00:25:54,233 --> 00:25:58,400 that sort of, and the cap just finishes it off, really. 193 00:26:00,067 --> 00:26:03,467 The top hat and the cane, it's regarded 194 00:26:03,467 --> 00:26:06,133 as an upper echelon sort of hat. 195 00:26:06,133 --> 00:26:09,200 The upper echelons in the landed people, 196 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,433 and the people who have got the houses and country. 197 00:26:11,433 --> 00:26:12,967 But the ascot in particular. 198 00:26:12,967 --> 00:26:17,233 There are certain places, i.e. the Queen's Royal Enclosure, 199 00:26:17,233 --> 00:26:21,133 you cannot enter without a top hat for the day. 200 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:27,033 So within hats, there's exclusions 201 00:26:28,100 --> 00:26:31,133 and admittance wearing the right hat. 202 00:26:32,333 --> 00:26:34,500 Straw boater, well, that's another one. 203 00:26:34,500 --> 00:26:37,267 In this particular country, really, 204 00:26:37,267 --> 00:26:40,133 it's Oxford and Cambridge, punting on the river. 205 00:26:40,133 --> 00:26:43,267 Henley, it's the Henley Regatta, is again, 206 00:26:43,267 --> 00:26:45,167 a very strong sort of hat. 207 00:26:45,167 --> 00:26:47,267 Originates somewhere around about Nelson's days, 208 00:26:47,267 --> 00:26:51,433 where the sailors wore the straw boater, without the band 209 00:26:53,267 --> 00:26:57,533 of course, but tarred to make them waterproof. 210 00:26:57,533 --> 00:27:01,600 The colored bowler for the drummer who wants to hold it all 211 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:05,767 together, Keith Moon type, that's his forte really. 212 00:27:07,900 --> 00:27:12,067 Getting the attention of the female admirers at the front, 213 00:27:14,433 --> 00:27:15,733 and the chap who's holding it all together 214 00:27:15,733 --> 00:27:17,800 is the beater of the group, is the drummer, 215 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:22,000 and he's saying, "Look at me, I'm here, please." 216 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:53,400 - Well, I'd like to, when I'm older, 217 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,967 I want to be a footballer, a designer, 218 00:28:59,167 --> 00:29:02,567 a inventor, a chef, a artist, and that's it. 219 00:32:20,667 --> 00:32:21,600 Um, London? 220 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:26,433 I actually think London's busier than South End, 221 00:32:28,867 --> 00:32:31,500 because there's more people, 222 00:32:31,500 --> 00:32:35,433 and London's the catch-all of England, but South End isn't. 223 00:32:35,433 --> 00:32:38,100 So I actually think it's bigger. 224 00:32:39,267 --> 00:32:42,000 And it's different, because it's not near 225 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:45,333 the seaside that much, and South End is. 226 00:32:48,167 --> 00:32:52,333 And if there is such a thing as a seaside in London, 227 00:32:53,500 --> 00:32:55,433 then I have never been. 228 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:14,300 They make sandcastles, or they swim in the sea, 229 00:33:14,300 --> 00:33:18,467 or they just go to basically a park and chill out. 230 00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:50,767 The sea is blue, and it goes waving through the sounds. 231 00:34:54,033 --> 00:34:57,000 Well, I think it comes from the other side, 232 00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,900 and it goes to the other side sometimes, 233 00:34:59,900 --> 00:35:03,233 but sometimes I think it's the opposite. 234 00:35:53,700 --> 00:35:56,867 - We have a high tide, and then we have, 235 00:35:56,867 --> 00:35:59,133 six hours later, a low tide, 236 00:36:00,267 --> 00:36:03,733 and the tide goes out across mud flats, 237 00:36:03,733 --> 00:36:08,633 and these are full of birds during the winter months. 238 00:36:08,633 --> 00:36:10,433 We get quite a lot of egrets, 239 00:36:10,433 --> 00:36:14,167 but the geese come in in skeins, which look wonderful, 240 00:36:14,167 --> 00:36:16,300 they come and feed on the eelgrass 241 00:36:16,300 --> 00:36:19,033 on the marshes which are at lea. 242 00:36:19,033 --> 00:36:22,200 And they come in with the tide, 243 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:24,567 and they go out with the tide. 244 00:36:24,567 --> 00:36:28,033 When the tide is out, it goes out for, 245 00:36:28,033 --> 00:36:30,300 probably a mile and a half. 246 00:36:33,833 --> 00:36:35,167 - It's the moon. 247 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:41,500 The reason we have the tide is to do with the moon, 248 00:36:41,500 --> 00:36:44,267 and I can't really go into much detail. 249 00:36:44,267 --> 00:36:46,600 As I child, I probably didn't think 250 00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:50,200 of the water as the estuary, I always thought 251 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:54,400 of it as a big sea, as if it just went on and on, 252 00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:56,900 as if you were abroad somewhere, 253 00:36:56,900 --> 00:36:58,433 and it went to another country. 254 00:36:58,433 --> 00:37:02,533 I often got confused that that was France and not Kate, 255 00:37:02,533 --> 00:37:03,467 as a child. 256 00:37:05,467 --> 00:37:08,300 My first thing I see are the flats 257 00:37:09,700 --> 00:37:12,967 that are too tall, that I don't know how 258 00:37:12,967 --> 00:37:16,667 they got planning for, which have sat there, 259 00:37:16,667 --> 00:37:20,400 unused and not finished for about five years. 260 00:37:23,167 --> 00:37:26,733 You've got a lot of cargo ships going past. 261 00:37:29,033 --> 00:37:33,000 You can see lot better, over in Canvey, 262 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:36,567 I don't know if you've been over to Canvey. 263 00:37:38,633 --> 00:37:42,133 - When I was a kid, I was in the East End, 264 00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:45,867 I come from a family of dockers. 265 00:37:45,867 --> 00:37:49,100 And all my family were, well, you know, 266 00:37:51,100 --> 00:37:53,133 not all straight, you know. 267 00:37:53,133 --> 00:37:55,367 And my dad was docker. 268 00:37:55,367 --> 00:37:59,400 And when I went back to London, when I was about, 269 00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:05,033 when we done a gig in London it was last year, 270 00:38:08,500 --> 00:38:09,400 you remember that one? 271 00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:10,900 South London. 272 00:38:10,900 --> 00:38:14,067 - At the Empire, I was upset that day, 273 00:38:15,667 --> 00:38:18,100 and I just trace my roots 'round here, 274 00:38:18,100 --> 00:38:19,867 and I knock on me aunt's door. 275 00:38:19,867 --> 00:38:22,667 Where's me cousin, oh one's in prison, 276 00:38:22,667 --> 00:38:24,333 one's here, one's there. 277 00:38:24,333 --> 00:38:26,600 It's just like every time I went back 278 00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:28,567 there looking for family, I got, 279 00:38:28,567 --> 00:38:30,400 you know, they're not, 280 00:38:33,067 --> 00:38:35,800 I'm glad I actually got away from the East End 281 00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:39,233 when I did as a young kid, and come here. 282 00:38:46,900 --> 00:38:48,633 I mean, Huey Lewis and the News 283 00:38:48,633 --> 00:38:53,033 is very close friend of ours from San Francisco, 284 00:38:53,033 --> 00:38:56,733 and he's been to Canvey several times. 285 00:38:56,733 --> 00:38:58,267 - Gayle. 286 00:38:58,267 --> 00:38:59,833 Bob Gayle, of course. 287 00:38:59,833 --> 00:39:02,867 - Yeah, I met him again, well he used 288 00:39:02,867 --> 00:39:05,133 to hang out with us before he was, 289 00:39:05,133 --> 00:39:07,400 and we would do this thing, 290 00:39:09,233 --> 00:39:13,400 I was with Ryan Comedy in Ireland, and his big house, 291 00:39:14,767 --> 00:39:16,233 I used to walk down. 292 00:39:16,233 --> 00:39:19,500 And remember that man he was on about in Louie Louie? 293 00:39:19,500 --> 00:39:21,867 Well the house he was on about was my dad's house, 294 00:39:21,867 --> 00:39:23,567 because he crashed out there one night 295 00:39:23,567 --> 00:39:26,300 and we drank a bottle of brandy. 296 00:39:26,300 --> 00:39:28,733 It all goes back a long ways. 297 00:39:30,300 --> 00:39:33,500 - The '70s music scene that was in existence 298 00:39:33,500 --> 00:39:35,667 was pretty much glam rock, 299 00:39:37,100 --> 00:39:40,000 was the stuff that was in the charts at the time, 300 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:43,200 sweet rocksy music, that kind of over the top, 301 00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:47,367 high dresses, fairly kind of poofy songs in many ways. 302 00:39:48,933 --> 00:39:52,100 Lots of makeup, lots of makeup, lots of long hair. 303 00:39:52,100 --> 00:39:54,433 Hair down to you ass, and flares, 304 00:39:54,433 --> 00:39:56,767 and a load of sparkly shoes. 305 00:39:59,633 --> 00:40:04,167 Whereas the Feel Goods broke that completely. 306 00:40:04,167 --> 00:40:08,267 We were just a little band kicking around Canvey. 307 00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:34,800 When the tide's low, it is quite prison-like. 308 00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:39,633 We're below sea level, it's 45,000 people live here. 309 00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:50,133 It's only 40 minutes to the city, 310 00:40:50,133 --> 00:40:54,300 so something like 12,000 people a day go up to the city, 311 00:40:56,233 --> 00:40:59,367 work in banking, shipping, insurance, 312 00:40:59,367 --> 00:41:02,233 all the white collar stuff. 313 00:41:02,233 --> 00:41:03,567 And then also around here, 314 00:41:03,567 --> 00:41:06,433 we're loaded up with big factories. 315 00:41:06,433 --> 00:41:08,367 Within 20 miles there's 600 factories here. 316 00:41:08,367 --> 00:41:11,767 Big ones, small ones, old tractor plant, 317 00:41:11,767 --> 00:41:16,133 gin manufactory places, you name it, it's made here. 318 00:41:16,133 --> 00:41:19,933 So the blue collar workers are all in work. 319 00:41:19,933 --> 00:41:24,100 And so, very industrious, they work hard, they play hard. 320 00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:37,967 I mean we played to hundreds of people on a nightly level, 321 00:41:37,967 --> 00:41:41,467 and it happened when we got a genuine response 322 00:41:41,467 --> 00:41:44,033 from the audience, on a nightly basis, 323 00:41:44,033 --> 00:41:46,367 and what the band was projecting on stage 324 00:41:46,367 --> 00:41:48,033 was very well appreciated. 325 00:41:48,033 --> 00:41:51,167 Whereas the gigs we would play around Canvey Island then, 326 00:41:51,167 --> 00:41:52,633 we were just playing the local pubs, 327 00:41:52,633 --> 00:41:54,867 we were just the background music. 328 00:41:54,867 --> 00:41:57,067 So we knew there was a spark there, 329 00:41:57,067 --> 00:41:58,633 and that spark came from here. 330 00:41:58,633 --> 00:42:02,300 We came back, everyone decided to have a go at it. 331 00:42:02,300 --> 00:42:04,467 There was a scene that was happening in London then, 332 00:42:04,467 --> 00:42:06,567 called the pub rock scene. 333 00:42:06,567 --> 00:42:09,033 These were predominantly fairly hip pubs, 334 00:42:09,033 --> 00:42:11,467 but they were free entrance to the public, 335 00:42:11,467 --> 00:42:14,400 and a few bands, quite a few bands, 336 00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:19,900 got on this kind of a merry go round 337 00:42:19,900 --> 00:42:21,733 that was going in the pub rock scene. 338 00:42:21,733 --> 00:42:25,067 And there were Doug's Deluxe, Eggs Over Easy, 339 00:42:25,067 --> 00:42:29,067 Britishy Swartz Band, the Feel Goods, of course, 340 00:42:30,533 --> 00:42:34,533 Eddie and the Hot Rods at a bit of a later date. 341 00:42:35,700 --> 00:42:38,567 And all were doing these gigs in these 342 00:42:38,567 --> 00:42:40,733 different pubs in London. 343 00:42:40,733 --> 00:42:43,733 The Exeter, which was over Lit Pier, 344 00:42:45,233 --> 00:42:48,800 Lord Nelson, Holloway Road, the Hope and Anchor, 345 00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:51,867 which was in Upper Street, the Newlands Tavern, 346 00:42:51,867 --> 00:42:54,033 which is in South London, it was quite a circuit. 347 00:42:54,033 --> 00:42:56,600 Winter Castle, over near Acton. 348 00:42:58,433 --> 00:43:00,233 But it became a big hit. 349 00:43:00,233 --> 00:43:03,667 The audiences were actually quite trendy, 350 00:43:05,100 --> 00:43:08,133 and it's actually being written that Lady Di 351 00:43:08,133 --> 00:43:11,000 in her younger days used to come to see the Feel Goods 352 00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:14,500 when she was a young scallywag sharing with her flatmates. 353 00:43:14,500 --> 00:43:16,933 She mentioned this to a few of her press then, 354 00:43:16,933 --> 00:43:19,600 I have not made this up, really. 355 00:43:38,467 --> 00:43:40,700 - Before, I'd already been touring with the Feel Goods, 356 00:43:40,700 --> 00:43:44,333 and the Hot Rods, for a few years. 357 00:43:44,333 --> 00:43:47,900 But there was a place in London, the Roundhouse, 358 00:43:47,900 --> 00:43:49,867 a friend of ours, John Kurd, 359 00:43:49,867 --> 00:43:51,733 used to put Sunday gigs on there. 360 00:43:51,733 --> 00:43:54,633 It was alright when Keith Christmas and Henry Cower, 361 00:43:54,633 --> 00:43:57,767 and Arthur Brown with the flaming hat played there. 362 00:43:57,767 --> 00:43:59,700 - Tangerine Dream. 363 00:43:59,700 --> 00:44:03,567 - Yeah, running around with dirty toenails and acid, 364 00:44:03,567 --> 00:44:04,900 things in there. 365 00:44:06,067 --> 00:44:08,533 All of a sudden, I got called in to do 366 00:44:08,533 --> 00:44:11,133 this band called The Ramones. 367 00:44:11,133 --> 00:44:14,233 I kind of worked with Flaming Groovies the year before, 368 00:44:14,233 --> 00:44:17,567 and then The Ramones come along, and Talking Heads, 369 00:44:17,567 --> 00:44:21,733 and all of a sudden hippies weren't allowed on stage, 370 00:44:22,667 --> 00:44:24,000 all these bands. 371 00:44:28,233 --> 00:44:31,767 They were mad, they were absolutely mental. 372 00:44:31,767 --> 00:44:33,300 I done the little clubs. 373 00:44:33,300 --> 00:44:37,100 One week the Jam were doing the Red Carey Hens, 374 00:44:37,100 --> 00:44:40,667 and three months later, Hammond's Pavilion. 375 00:44:40,667 --> 00:44:44,533 And that's how quick bands moved in them days. 376 00:44:44,533 --> 00:44:47,867 Now The Ramones supported the Feel Goods. 377 00:44:47,867 --> 00:44:51,967 - Then in '74 they went bottom-line in New York. 378 00:44:51,967 --> 00:44:54,400 In the audience were some very high flyers, 379 00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:57,700 Dylan, and who's the artist guy, blonde. 380 00:44:59,467 --> 00:45:01,367 - Andy Warhol. - Andy Warhol. 381 00:45:01,367 --> 00:45:04,767 - Right, and many movers and shakers 382 00:45:04,767 --> 00:45:07,900 from the whole Blondie scene. 383 00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:22,367 If you've got an imagination, when you go to the South, 384 00:45:24,433 --> 00:45:28,033 and you go to Louisiana and to Alabama 385 00:45:28,033 --> 00:45:31,233 and to all these coastal places, it's very very similar. 386 00:45:31,233 --> 00:45:35,367 New Jersey is actual comparison, I think, there is to Essex. 387 00:45:35,367 --> 00:45:38,433 Because New Jersey, along with Essex, 388 00:45:39,567 --> 00:45:43,233 doesn't have that New York flash to it. 389 00:45:43,233 --> 00:45:47,667 What we are here is a service county to London. 390 00:45:47,667 --> 00:45:51,300 With regard to the energy that comes out of this area, 391 00:45:51,300 --> 00:45:55,500 which is high, Essex people, South End people, 392 00:45:55,500 --> 00:45:57,567 Canvey people, are doers. 393 00:45:58,767 --> 00:46:01,500 They do not mess around, They get on their bike, 394 00:46:01,500 --> 00:46:03,633 they're fearless travelers, 395 00:46:03,633 --> 00:46:06,800 and they will chase whatever project they're on 396 00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:09,467 to the other side of the Earth and back. 397 00:46:09,467 --> 00:46:13,767 And I often ask myself, where does this come from? 398 00:46:13,767 --> 00:46:16,800 Where does all this energy, which is crazy, 399 00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:20,433 a lot of talent out of this area, Parham, 400 00:46:20,433 --> 00:46:24,600 Mickey Jap, uh, Eddie and the Hot Rods, The Feel Goods. 401 00:46:29,100 --> 00:46:31,233 These bands, that is a lot of bands 402 00:46:31,233 --> 00:46:35,300 to come out of quite a small area, quite small communities. 403 00:46:35,300 --> 00:46:39,133 One of my theories with this is purely 404 00:46:39,133 --> 00:46:42,000 is we grow up with the energy force 405 00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:46,233 of the tide coming up and down twice a day. 406 00:46:46,233 --> 00:46:48,900 The force of the flood comes up, 407 00:46:51,933 --> 00:46:55,433 then you got the ebb, falls away. 408 00:46:55,433 --> 00:46:58,133 Then, 12 hours later, she's back on the flood. 409 00:46:58,133 --> 00:47:00,600 An hour and six minutes on, 410 00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:03,367 that's the way the tidal charts work. 411 00:47:03,367 --> 00:47:05,367 And the levels do go up and down, 412 00:47:05,367 --> 00:47:08,800 but we won't confuse ourselves with that. 413 00:48:46,933 --> 00:48:49,133 - It's nice, but what about if you, 414 00:48:49,133 --> 00:48:51,800 because he doesn't wear a hat usually 415 00:49:26,333 --> 00:49:29,433 - And a typical question is, everyone 416 00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:32,400 is wearing a hat, or is there? 417 00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:34,367 And then when you look deeper into it, 418 00:49:34,367 --> 00:49:37,300 there is a hat, maybe one, maybe two been 419 00:49:37,300 --> 00:49:39,600 taken off by the comedian behind him, 420 00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:42,333 just so his bald pate is showing. 421 00:49:43,500 --> 00:49:46,200 Everyone wearing a hat, because if you didn't 422 00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:48,067 wear a hat in those days, you caught a cold, 423 00:49:48,067 --> 00:49:49,533 you didn't work. 424 00:49:49,533 --> 00:49:52,167 But the type of hat being worn is none of those 425 00:49:52,167 --> 00:49:54,300 I mentioned previously. 426 00:49:54,300 --> 00:49:56,467 The baker boy had a button on it. 427 00:49:56,467 --> 00:49:59,767 Because they were near the edge of the Thames, 428 00:49:59,767 --> 00:50:03,433 they were lighterman, and lighterman didn't need 429 00:50:03,433 --> 00:50:06,233 a button on their head, they weren't carrying anything, 430 00:50:06,233 --> 00:50:09,267 they were just doing duties on the Thames, 431 00:50:09,267 --> 00:50:12,600 keeping themselves warm during the night, 432 00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:16,767 during the day, during the ups and downs on the river. 433 00:53:59,633 --> 00:54:01,033 There are these old iron structures 434 00:54:01,033 --> 00:54:02,533 from World War Two, 435 00:54:02,533 --> 00:54:06,667 and put there for the kind of welcoming committee 436 00:54:06,667 --> 00:54:10,233 for the Luftwaffe and as they came in from Germany. 437 00:54:10,233 --> 00:54:14,300 So they were basically the first port of defense. 438 00:55:12,733 --> 00:55:14,933 How well that could describe our life, 439 00:55:14,933 --> 00:55:17,000 we sing for the cross. 33679

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