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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:12,451 --> 00:00:17,131 Two and a half years ago we found Dr. John Calhoun knee deep in mice 2 00:00:17,169 --> 00:00:19,009 in the mouse heaven he designed 3 00:00:19,097 --> 00:00:22,417 for the National Institute of Mental Health near Washington. 4 00:00:22,449 --> 00:00:26,408 Dr. Calhoun wanted to find out what would happen to a mouse colony 5 00:00:26,409 --> 00:00:29,911 given everything mice need except living space. 6 00:00:29,911 --> 00:00:29,929 given everything mice need except living space. {\an8}He builds an enclosure, which he calls a rodent 7 00:00:29,929 --> 00:00:33,788 {\an8}He builds an enclosure, which he calls a rodent 8 00:00:33,813 --> 00:00:35,726 universe, in a disused barn. 9 00:00:35,751 --> 00:00:38,282 {\an8} I don't know if you've ever been anywhere 10 00:00:38,307 --> 00:00:40,748 {\an8}where there was a lot of rodents 11 00:00:40,773 --> 00:00:47,378 {\an8}in an enclosed space but it's real heavy on the rodent smell. 12 00:00:47,379 --> 00:00:51,369 When you came up the stairs it was just their office area 13 00:00:51,370 --> 00:00:55,599 which I remember as being rather cramped and, y'know, 14 00:00:55,600 --> 00:01:00,549 just desks and file cabinets and stuff and then you open the door into the main area. 15 00:01:00,550 --> 00:01:04,719 So there was a glass observation window for each of the 16 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:08,859 little mini rooms so you could go up the stairs 17 00:01:08,860 --> 00:01:11,939 and lie down on the roof and watch the rats from above, 18 00:01:11,940 --> 00:01:13,604 which was fun. 19 00:01:13,629 --> 00:01:16,898 He put rats into this enclosure, which was 20 00:01:16,899 --> 00:01:20,419 effectively four separate pens. He wanted to control space, to control the 21 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:22,803 ways in which the rats accessed one another, 22 00:01:22,828 --> 00:01:24,984 the way in which they would bump into each other 23 00:01:25,009 --> 00:01:30,969 {\an8} No jumper connects pens one and four. 24 00:01:30,979 --> 00:01:37,979 Therefore, there are two end pens and two centre pens; two and three. 25 00:01:37,990 --> 00:01:43,799 He supplies ample bedding, he supplies ample food, he supplies ample water. 26 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:44,918 These rats want for nothing. 27 00:01:44,943 --> 00:01:47,159 {\an8}The rat population started to grow. 28 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:49,816 {\an8}Now, in the wild it would have spread out 29 00:01:49,841 --> 00:01:52,109 or there would have been predators present 30 00:01:52,110 --> 00:01:56,769 but here there were no predators and no possibility of spreading out. 31 00:01:56,770 --> 00:02:01,050 There's a number of ways in which the way that he sets his experiments up 32 00:02:01,070 --> 00:02:06,270 lends themselves to being applied quite easily to the urban situation. 33 00:02:06,289 --> 00:02:12,079 He was creating essentially an urban environment for his rats, it was like rat city. 34 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:15,070 {\an8}They reached a point after a given number of doublings 35 00:02:15,071 --> 00:02:18,244 {\an8}in which behaviour began to change radically. 36 00:02:18,269 --> 00:02:20,625 This is where the experiments really get 37 00:02:20,626 --> 00:02:22,728 pretty interesting. 38 00:02:23,268 --> 00:02:25,268 MUSIC PLAYS 39 00:02:27,253 --> 00:02:29,419 Like you I live in a world filled with other people. 40 00:02:29,420 --> 00:02:32,829 It seems impossible to find a place on Earth 41 00:02:32,830 --> 00:02:37,319 untouched by human hands. How does this human world affect us? 42 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:42,920 How did we get here and where are we going? 43 00:02:47,755 --> 00:02:49,755 JARRING MUSIC 44 00:03:08,437 --> 00:03:12,477 {\an8}As with any story it's best to begin at the beginning. 45 00:03:12,506 --> 00:03:16,349 In this 16 cell mouse habitat, utopian conditions 46 00:03:16,350 --> 00:03:18,601 of nutrition, comfort and housing 47 00:03:18,602 --> 00:03:23,015 were provided for a potential population of over 3000 mice. 48 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:26,875 The mouse universe simulated the present situation 49 00:03:26,876 --> 00:03:31,134 of the continually expanding population of humans. 50 00:03:31,159 --> 00:03:36,412 Human beings evolved as tribal animals, living in small groups of 51 00:03:36,437 --> 00:03:39,257 maybe 100 to 200 individuals. 52 00:03:39,282 --> 00:03:42,148 You might meet 40 up to 200 people maximum 53 00:03:42,149 --> 00:03:43,800 in the course of your lifetime. 54 00:03:43,825 --> 00:03:46,345 {\an8}There was very little competition, there was 55 00:03:46,369 --> 00:03:48,369 {\an8}very little pressure, if people 56 00:03:48,387 --> 00:03:52,846 were getting too close your group could go some place else. 57 00:03:52,947 --> 00:03:55,060 {\an8} When the group that's introduced is rather 58 00:03:55,085 --> 00:03:58,523 {\an8}small, each individual can move around 59 00:03:58,548 --> 00:04:02,202 and associate with his physical environment. 60 00:04:02,203 --> 00:04:05,124 And he sort of incorporates this into himself, 61 00:04:05,149 --> 00:04:07,849 this is a part of him, his ego boundaries. 62 00:04:07,874 --> 00:04:09,201 This is what I am. 63 00:04:09,226 --> 00:04:12,079 Within the first 100 days the mice went through 64 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:19,534 the period Dr Calhoun called 'strive'. This was a period of adjustment. 65 00:04:19,535 --> 00:04:22,938 Territories were established and nests were made. 66 00:04:22,963 --> 00:04:25,579 If a particular tribe was successful, it would 67 00:04:25,580 --> 00:04:28,409 split off and another tribe would develop and in that way 68 00:04:28,410 --> 00:04:33,748 we fanned out to cover the whole land surface of the planet. 69 00:04:33,803 --> 00:04:37,243 {\an8}Hunting and gathering societies have very few parts. 70 00:04:37,246 --> 00:04:41,233 Pretty much everyone follows the same roles and the same occupations. 71 00:04:41,258 --> 00:04:43,218 {\an8} There were lots of reasons why it made more 72 00:04:43,245 --> 00:04:45,471 {\an8}sense for women and men to have similar interests. 73 00:04:45,496 --> 00:04:47,808 You couldn't really move too many people around easily. 74 00:04:47,809 --> 00:04:52,358 We didn't have agriculture, we didn't have possessions 75 00:04:52,383 --> 00:04:56,048 We relied upon each other on a daily basis. 76 00:04:56,049 --> 00:05:01,519 {\an8}In the early primitive hunter group they had about 15000 years to solve their 77 00:05:01,519 --> 00:05:01,529 {\an8}In the early primitive hunter group they had about 15000 years to solve their impasse of when they were stuck by the carrying capacity of the environment. 78 00:05:01,529 --> 00:05:06,368 impasse of when they were stuck by the carrying capacity of the environment. 79 00:05:06,369 --> 00:05:11,225 And then about 10,000 years ago, the story goes, we came up with agriculture. 80 00:05:11,250 --> 00:05:19,250 We had for the first time in our long history a food supply. A food surplus. 81 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:27,760 Agriculture brought with it larger accumulations of people living in one place, 82 00:05:28,455 --> 00:05:34,415 with the ability to support people who weren't directly engaged in hunting and gathering 83 00:05:34,459 --> 00:05:38,522 or farming for themselves. 84 00:05:38,523 --> 00:05:43,054 This kind of agricultural existence that we 85 00:05:43,079 --> 00:05:46,453 had now developed changed our personalities. 86 00:05:46,492 --> 00:05:49,425 Because of this accumulation, people were 87 00:05:49,450 --> 00:05:53,039 no longer living this egalitarian, carefree existence. 88 00:05:53,040 --> 00:06:00,817 There was hard work and possessiveness and royalty and poor people, maybe slaves. 89 00:06:00,818 --> 00:06:06,249 Suddenly relationships between men and women were changing very dramatically and leaders 90 00:06:06,249 --> 00:06:06,258 Suddenly relationships between men and women were changing very dramatically and leaders evolved, hierarchy evolved. 91 00:06:06,258 --> 00:06:08,261 evolved, hierarchy evolved. 92 00:06:08,286 --> 00:06:10,819 {\an8}So you get a few people on the top, you get 93 00:06:10,820 --> 00:06:14,729 {\an8}most people on the bottom, and more and more of our resources went into 94 00:06:14,730 --> 00:06:17,896 maintaining the system of domination. 95 00:06:17,897 --> 00:06:23,142 This dominant male maintains Pen 1 as his territory 96 00:06:23,167 --> 00:06:27,659 to the near exclusion of all other males. 97 00:06:27,660 --> 00:06:30,753 He moves freely about Pen 1. 98 00:06:30,778 --> 00:06:37,745 He examines and enters the artificial burrow which houses 99 00:06:37,770 --> 00:06:40,180 his harem of adult females. 100 00:06:40,205 --> 00:06:43,159 More hierarchy, more male leadership and a 101 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:45,734 clear idea that women were possessions. 102 00:06:45,759 --> 00:06:49,148 They weren't partners, they weren't fertility 103 00:06:49,149 --> 00:06:51,510 goddesses which we see in the Palaeolithic, 104 00:06:51,535 --> 00:06:53,808 suddenly they become property for men. 105 00:06:53,809 --> 00:06:58,955 Hierarchy didn't simply come about because people accepted it, it came about because 106 00:06:58,955 --> 00:06:58,969 Hierarchy didn't simply come about because people accepted it, it came about because circumstances made it necessary. 107 00:06:58,969 --> 00:07:00,774 circumstances made it necessary. 108 00:07:00,799 --> 00:07:04,122 And those circumstances were probably rising populations. 109 00:07:04,123 --> 00:07:07,944 Villages grew into towns and in towns specialists developed. 110 00:07:07,969 --> 00:07:12,808 Men making weapons and jewellery and clothing 111 00:07:12,809 --> 00:07:18,468 and all kinds of arts and crafts and scientific developments were occurring 112 00:07:18,469 --> 00:07:21,988 in these towns and the towns grew into great cities 113 00:07:21,989 --> 00:07:26,668 and although I'm covering 10,000 years in 10 seconds 114 00:07:26,693 --> 00:07:34,693 that gave us eventually the urban world in which we live today. 115 00:07:35,433 --> 00:07:40,913 {\an8} At the time of Christ, the world's population was about 300 million, 116 00:07:40,948 --> 00:07:44,729 and the number only doubled over 17 centuries. 117 00:07:44,754 --> 00:07:47,791 200,000 years to reach a quarter of a billion people. 118 00:07:47,816 --> 00:07:52,524 That's almost zero growth for 99% of the history of our species. 119 00:07:52,549 --> 00:07:57,065 Ancient governments would usually encourage growth of population. 120 00:07:57,090 --> 00:08:00,769 Food for the cities, sons for the army, taxes for the state. 121 00:08:00,794 --> 00:08:04,403 Cities begin to grow, cities become the place where, 122 00:08:04,428 --> 00:08:07,691 through economic necessity, huge numbers of people flock. 123 00:08:08,699 --> 00:08:10,613 The industrial revolution 124 00:08:10,638 --> 00:08:14,519 that came at the beginning of the 18th century, more or less; 125 00:08:14,544 --> 00:08:17,468 coal fired it up in the first place and then 126 00:08:17,469 --> 00:08:21,457 it was followed mid 19th century by oil. 127 00:08:21,482 --> 00:08:25,158 We've had enormous growth in just the last couple of hundred years. 128 00:08:25,183 --> 00:08:29,470 The population grew 10 fold more or less in parallel with oil. 129 00:08:29,502 --> 00:08:32,462 {\an8}We had the agricultural revolution on the back of cheap oil. 130 00:08:32,468 --> 00:08:34,799 I think the role of cheap oil has been understated 131 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:37,939 in the explosion of food production that we've had. 132 00:08:37,940 --> 00:08:41,982 Oil provides an enormous flood of easy energy, 133 00:08:42,007 --> 00:08:45,878 the equivalent of billions of slaves working round the clock you could say. 134 00:08:45,903 --> 00:08:47,554 They're approaching population densities 135 00:08:47,555 --> 00:08:50,155 the likes of which humanity has never seen... 136 00:08:50,190 --> 00:08:51,415 and it's getting worse. 137 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:52,462 CLICKING 138 00:08:52,531 --> 00:08:56,946 A higher population density means that a society has to be more complex 139 00:08:56,971 --> 00:08:59,537 simply to integrate the large number of people. 140 00:08:59,562 --> 00:09:01,540 There is this increasingly urgent problem 141 00:09:01,541 --> 00:09:05,058 of "How do you house all the people which are now moving to the cities?" 142 00:09:05,059 --> 00:09:09,579 {\an8}A kluge is a clumsy or inelegant solution to a problem, you can think MacGyver or duct 143 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:13,040 tape and rubber bands. Something that gets the job done but not necessarily 144 00:09:13,050 --> 00:09:16,330 the most efficient or elegant fashion you could possibly imagine. 145 00:09:16,350 --> 00:09:20,332 They start building tower blocks into which you can stack more people, 146 00:09:20,357 --> 00:09:23,157 so you start seeing the first skyscrapers. 147 00:09:23,201 --> 00:09:26,198 As cities grow in terms of sheer population, 148 00:09:26,199 --> 00:09:29,909 they grow up and so when a city is growing out a little bit it 149 00:09:29,910 --> 00:09:32,348 {\an8}gets denser and denser at the inner core. 150 00:09:32,373 --> 00:09:35,109 They talk about these using the language of 151 00:09:35,110 --> 00:09:38,408 the bee hive. Hives where you can pack a great number of people 152 00:09:38,433 --> 00:09:41,101 and that they'll live together very much in the manner of bees, 153 00:09:41,102 --> 00:09:42,696 co-operating, being productive. 154 00:09:42,721 --> 00:09:46,328 Many people mistakenly think this is indicative 155 00:09:46,329 --> 00:09:50,770 of humanity's decoupling from nature. What could possibly go wrong? 156 00:09:50,795 --> 00:09:51,985 CLICKING 157 00:09:52,010 --> 00:09:56,578 {\an8}The basic driver of all these problems is the attempt to have infinite economic growth 158 00:09:56,579 --> 00:09:57,628 on a finite planet. 159 00:09:57,653 --> 00:10:02,907 This is a grotesque error, one that we'll rue in the long run. 160 00:10:02,932 --> 00:10:06,349 {\an8} We have very successfully conquered our planet 161 00:10:06,350 --> 00:10:11,350 {\an8}and by conquering the planet we met at the other end. 162 00:10:11,783 --> 00:10:13,805 FRANTIC TRAFFIC SOUNDS 163 00:10:22,503 --> 00:10:26,960 The next period lasted about 250 days. The 164 00:10:30,633 --> 00:10:34,705 population of the mice doubled every 60 days. 165 00:10:34,891 --> 00:10:39,135 This was called the 'exploit' period. 166 00:10:39,713 --> 00:10:42,665 {\an8}When I was born there were 3 billion people in the world. 167 00:10:42,690 --> 00:10:45,822 {\an8} This lego block represents one billion people. 168 00:10:46,065 --> 00:10:49,370 {\an8}World population has tripled in my lifetime, 169 00:10:49,395 --> 00:10:52,821 {\an8}and I don't think that's ever going to happen again. At least I hope it doesn't. 170 00:10:52,846 --> 00:10:56,188 And our teacher told us 'we are 3 billion people' 171 00:10:56,213 --> 00:10:59,628 and she said the Indian population and Chinese population 172 00:10:59,629 --> 00:11:03,549 will grow to become one billion, but everyone understand that that's impossible. 173 00:11:03,550 --> 00:11:05,604 Yeah, that's impossible everyone said. 174 00:11:05,629 --> 00:11:07,992 We told our parents, they said "of course that's impossible, 175 00:11:08,017 --> 00:11:10,739 they will starve to death. That won't happen." 176 00:11:10,740 --> 00:11:14,649 My grandfather was born in New York City in 1914. 177 00:11:14,650 --> 00:11:17,795 In the previous 100 years, the world's population 178 00:11:17,807 --> 00:11:20,448 had grown from 1 billion to 1.6 billion. 179 00:11:20,449 --> 00:11:22,629 Since my grandfather was born the world's 180 00:11:22,654 --> 00:11:27,362 population has gone from 1.6 billion to more than 7 billion. 181 00:11:27,387 --> 00:11:30,058 Slowly the indicator crept up to the grandest 182 00:11:30,059 --> 00:11:36,205 grand total in the history of the United States. And there it was. 183 00:11:37,670 --> 00:11:40,970 The signs show the dramatic increase of America's 184 00:11:40,982 --> 00:11:43,888 population in under 200 years, and experts 185 00:11:43,889 --> 00:11:46,799 reckon that at the current rate of birth acceleration 186 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:50,799 a 300 million total is possible by the turn of the century. 187 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:55,128 My grandparents had two children, my father, and my uncle. My father had three children, 188 00:11:55,129 --> 00:11:58,378 my uncle had four. My brother and sister each have one child. 189 00:11:58,379 --> 00:12:03,279 So for my two grandparents 100 years ago there are 11 people alive today. 190 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:05,845 This is called the exponential function. 191 00:12:07,962 --> 00:12:10,219 ARCADE GAME SOUNDS 192 00:12:29,059 --> 00:12:31,059 FAST ROCK SONG 193 00:12:45,818 --> 00:12:50,492 {\an8}It's that exponential growth and then up until the industrial revolution it keeps on 194 00:12:50,493 --> 00:12:54,058 going up and up and up. But with the industrial revolution the rate 195 00:12:54,059 --> 00:12:58,149 itself increases even more, and so we go from something like 196 00:12:58,150 --> 00:13:03,166 a growth of .02% to a growth of 2%. 197 00:13:03,191 --> 00:13:06,174 4 billion people more in the world, and at 198 00:13:06,239 --> 00:13:09,938 the same time the industrialised countries grow much richer 199 00:13:09,939 --> 00:13:13,340 and these 4 billion extra landed somewhere here, 200 00:13:13,352 --> 00:13:16,479 and 1 billion of them were very successful. 201 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:19,269 The emerging economy, the top of the emerging economies. 202 00:13:19,270 --> 00:13:23,899 We noted it in Sweden this year because China acquired the Volvo company. 203 00:13:23,900 --> 00:13:29,868 In 1971 the world's population growth rate peaked at 2.1 percent. In 2011, the growth 204 00:13:29,869 --> 00:13:32,799 rate was 1.2 percent. It seems like the population of the world 205 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:35,537 is growing slower than it was, but in 1971 the 206 00:13:35,549 --> 00:13:38,238 world's population was just under 4 billion. 207 00:13:38,239 --> 00:13:43,449 A growth rate of 2.1 percent meant that 79 million new people were born that year. 208 00:13:43,450 --> 00:13:47,808 In 2011 the growth rate was 1.2 percent, but there are so many more people in the world 209 00:13:47,809 --> 00:13:49,550 that the number of new people born each year is 210 00:13:49,551 --> 00:13:54,657 almost the same. 147 new people are born every minute. 211 00:13:54,682 --> 00:14:02,682 8850 every hour. 212000 every day. That adds up to 77 million a year. 212 00:14:03,550 --> 00:14:07,903 By the end of this film there will be 15000 more people in the world than there are now. 213 00:14:07,904 --> 00:14:11,206 But they couldn't care less what the figure is or will be. 214 00:14:11,231 --> 00:14:14,542 That's for the grown-ups to worry about. 215 00:14:14,567 --> 00:14:19,847 His main concern is not millions of mouths to be fed, just one. His. 216 00:14:19,872 --> 00:14:23,938 The demographers missed the baby boom after 217 00:14:23,939 --> 00:14:28,339 World War 2 and they got ridiculed a bit for that, 218 00:14:28,340 --> 00:14:32,482 and so they kind of stepped back from this idea of making predictions, 219 00:14:32,507 --> 00:14:36,669 and they make projections and there's usually a high, a medium which 220 00:14:36,670 --> 00:14:39,359 is sort of what they expect and a low projection 221 00:14:39,371 --> 00:14:41,678 of what future population scenarios are. 222 00:14:41,679 --> 00:14:48,258 Population keeps growing while family size shrinks, and the growth only stops thirty 223 00:14:48,259 --> 00:14:52,678 years after a country have hit 2 children per woman, because they're building 224 00:14:52,679 --> 00:14:56,107 up the middle-aged people and the old people in the population. 225 00:14:56,357 --> 00:14:59,318 Population growth is measured and projected using something called 226 00:14:59,343 --> 00:15:01,505 the 'Total Fertility Rate' or TFR. 227 00:15:01,506 --> 00:15:03,705 {\an8}The 'total fertility rate' is just the number 228 00:15:03,730 --> 00:15:07,339 {\an8}of children that women have in all their reproductive life. 229 00:15:07,340 --> 00:15:10,558 Let's say from the beginning she starts having children to the end. 230 00:15:10,559 --> 00:15:15,530 The TFR for a stable world population is 2.33 children per woman. 231 00:15:15,555 --> 00:15:17,819 This is called 'replacement rate'. 232 00:15:17,844 --> 00:15:20,414 High income countries, upper middle income countries, 233 00:15:20,414 --> 00:15:20,439 High income countries, upper middle income countries, lower middle income countries, and low income countries. 234 00:15:20,439 --> 00:15:23,303 lower middle income countries, and low income countries. 235 00:15:23,328 --> 00:15:29,289 This pile here has two children per woman. Two children per woman here, and also here: 236 00:15:29,290 --> 00:15:34,344 Vietnam, Mexico, Bangladesh, down to almost 2 children per woman. 237 00:15:34,369 --> 00:15:38,781 So this means that in just one or two decades more the population growth will stop here. 238 00:15:38,806 --> 00:15:43,738 The problem we have with population growth is entirely here in the two poorest billion. 239 00:15:43,739 --> 00:15:46,828 There isn't vaccination for all children, so children are dying, 240 00:15:46,853 --> 00:15:49,703 so people have good reasons for having many children. 241 00:15:49,728 --> 00:15:53,928 {\an8}Looking back at the historical record, and certain insights 242 00:15:53,953 --> 00:16:00,608 {\an8} from mammals of a kind to which man traces his lineage, 243 00:16:00,609 --> 00:16:07,388 has lead to a conclusion that the optimum world population is 9 billion. 244 00:16:07,389 --> 00:16:13,395 They say 9 billion by 2050. That's the UN estimate, 245 00:16:13,420 --> 00:16:16,088 and the UN has historically underestimated 246 00:16:16,113 --> 00:16:20,969 where we're going to, so we may be at more than 9 billion by 2050. 247 00:16:20,970 --> 00:16:23,526 I don't think anybody thinks that's a good idea. 248 00:16:23,551 --> 00:16:29,620 Up to 2050 we cannot avoid another additional 2 billion. 249 00:16:29,645 --> 00:16:31,970 But what will happen with these ones? 250 00:16:31,971 --> 00:16:34,438 I have no doubt that they will catch up here. 251 00:16:34,439 --> 00:16:37,757 That means more energy use, more consumption. 252 00:16:37,782 --> 00:16:43,896 In 2011 the world's TFR was 2.46 with a population of over 7 billion people. 253 00:16:43,921 --> 00:16:46,269 The UN Population Division projects that we 254 00:16:46,270 --> 00:16:50,445 can expect 9.3 billion people on the planet by 2050. 255 00:16:50,470 --> 00:16:57,093 That medium projection relies on the world's TFR falling to 2.02, a drop of 18%. 256 00:16:57,118 --> 00:17:00,930 At replacement level, 2.33, their high projection 257 00:17:00,942 --> 00:17:03,882 is almost 12 billion. In 40 years. 258 00:17:03,907 --> 00:17:07,155 If we bring fertility rates down by 6%. 259 00:17:07,156 --> 00:17:10,964 {\an8}If women have on average 2.1 children, you 260 00:17:10,989 --> 00:17:15,669 {\an8}can end up with that 9 billion people out to the year 2300 261 00:17:15,670 --> 00:17:22,189 but if you add just a third of a child more, you end up with 36 billion people by 2300. 262 00:17:22,190 --> 00:17:25,364 That is the power of compound interest, if you will. 263 00:17:25,389 --> 00:17:31,579 These 3 billion, which is like Vietnam today, Peru today...they want to move here. 264 00:17:31,580 --> 00:17:38,879 Here we will get 2 billion extra. If these ones remain in poverty when we reach 2050 265 00:17:38,910 --> 00:17:45,069 then they will continue to grow, but if they get access to school, health care, 266 00:17:45,070 --> 00:17:49,527 family planning, perhaps an electric bulb in their room, 267 00:17:49,528 --> 00:17:54,830 they will also get 2 child families and then in 2050 we can stop at 9 billion. 268 00:17:55,308 --> 00:18:01,686 The third period consisting of 300 days found the population of mice levelling off. 269 00:18:01,711 --> 00:18:05,280 This was called the "Equilibrium" period. 270 00:18:05,281 --> 00:18:08,895 There's nothing we can do about this 9 billion, 271 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:13,439 if we are not going to kill people at a scale that hasn't happened in modern history, 272 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:16,374 and I'm talking about centuries and thousands of years. 273 00:18:16,399 --> 00:18:21,649 We have to plan for 9 billion and don't think that people should live in poverty because 274 00:18:21,650 --> 00:18:22,945 then they will continue to grow, 275 00:18:22,970 --> 00:18:25,199 and don't even think that people who just 276 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:27,648 have a bicycle don't want washing machines. 277 00:18:27,660 --> 00:18:35,491 {\an8}And how are we doing with the 7 billion people we have now? 278 00:18:35,921 --> 00:18:38,061 Badly. 279 00:18:38,866 --> 00:18:42,792 At this time, some unusual behaviour became noticeable. 280 00:18:42,793 --> 00:18:48,299 In order to consider physical space and the crowding together, you cannot separate it 281 00:18:48,300 --> 00:18:53,922 from the ability to deal with the social organisation. 282 00:18:53,947 --> 00:18:58,493 {\an8}If you've watched these animals in the wild and studied them, 283 00:18:58,518 --> 00:19:03,315 which he had, you know what their normal behaviour is. 284 00:19:03,340 --> 00:19:05,919 You know how they normally react, you can tell 285 00:19:05,944 --> 00:19:08,922 whether what they're doing there is normal or not, 286 00:19:08,947 --> 00:19:11,400 how much it deviates from the norm. 287 00:19:11,439 --> 00:19:16,109 And as the population grows you can see the changes 288 00:19:16,142 --> 00:19:18,699 {\an8} Desmond Morris was one to make the point that 289 00:19:18,700 --> 00:19:21,469 we actually don't know how humans behave in nature, 290 00:19:21,494 --> 00:19:23,087 because we haven't been in nature 291 00:19:23,112 --> 00:19:26,095 for as long as we've making these kind of records. 292 00:19:26,120 --> 00:19:30,033 Cities are abnormal phenomena in the sense that for 99% of human history 293 00:19:30,034 --> 00:19:31,423 they haven't existed. 294 00:19:31,448 --> 00:19:33,868 {\an8}There was this sense there that people already 295 00:19:33,893 --> 00:19:38,659 had that if you crowd mammals together they'll behave aggressively, 296 00:19:38,660 --> 00:19:41,306 that people in crowded environments will 297 00:19:41,331 --> 00:19:46,684 become more violent, will become stressed. 298 00:19:46,917 --> 00:19:50,611 God almighty, sorry man, please, we're filming. 299 00:19:50,636 --> 00:19:53,074 No, please, I'm sorry man, that's in shot. 300 00:19:55,490 --> 00:19:58,309 Thanks. It's on the door, we're here till 5. 301 00:19:58,310 --> 00:20:06,310 This is his bubble, and when another mouse comes in to that boundary it's as if he was 302 00:20:07,670 --> 00:20:11,769 hit physically. His anxiety builds up. There may be an overt 303 00:20:11,770 --> 00:20:18,149 fight as a reflection of the stress of this individual space bubble being invaded. 304 00:20:18,150 --> 00:20:24,069 One rarely sees more than one rat at a time eating or drinking. 305 00:20:24,070 --> 00:20:27,295 As the breeding population reaches a certain level of density 306 00:20:27,319 --> 00:20:30,192 he starts noticing aberrant behaviours. 307 00:20:30,217 --> 00:20:32,969 {\an8} It reached a point where they could no longer 308 00:20:32,970 --> 00:20:34,905 function as rats. 309 00:20:34,906 --> 00:20:38,595 In the centre pens 2 and 3, rats frequently 310 00:20:38,620 --> 00:20:45,429 drank beside each other as they do here in pen 3 at the lower left. 311 00:20:45,430 --> 00:20:52,630 Note how this female comes over to drink beside another as do these two males. 312 00:20:52,670 --> 00:20:58,219 The act of drinking becomes associated with the presence of others. 313 00:20:58,220 --> 00:21:01,562 He starts noticing something called 'pathological togetherness'. 314 00:21:01,563 --> 00:21:05,376 Despite the fact there's plenty of food hoppers and water bottles available 315 00:21:05,401 --> 00:21:07,390 all the rats will congregate around one of 316 00:21:07,391 --> 00:21:11,039 them, they won't spread out and keep themselves to themselves. 317 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:15,293 They start displaying these really unnatural and peculiar responses. 318 00:21:15,347 --> 00:21:19,102 Human beings evolved living in huge areas 319 00:21:19,103 --> 00:21:22,986 as a tribe of 60 or a big tribe of 200 people. 320 00:21:23,011 --> 00:21:26,546 When I looked then at the population of London 321 00:21:26,571 --> 00:21:29,849 or New York I realised that the population 322 00:21:29,850 --> 00:21:33,964 density of our species had increased by a 100,000 times, 323 00:21:33,965 --> 00:21:37,285 since our original tribal life. 324 00:21:37,310 --> 00:21:39,090 And it was that tribal life, that was where 325 00:21:39,091 --> 00:21:43,319 we evolved and that's how our personality was formed. 326 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:50,320 {\an8}The mice have programs, they're like little computers and this is basically genetic with 327 00:21:50,345 --> 00:21:54,857 a much smaller element of learned behaviour. 328 00:21:54,869 --> 00:21:59,715 Too high a contact rate disorganises the program 329 00:21:59,740 --> 00:22:05,385 so that it gets washed out, so it's disconnected or doesn't express itself, 330 00:22:05,410 --> 00:22:07,384 this is where you get the lack of involvement. 331 00:22:07,409 --> 00:22:10,601 {\an8}Well, that's one of the consequences of over-crowding, 332 00:22:10,602 --> 00:22:15,239 {\an8}is that you break action chains and the very simple example is 333 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:17,246 a woman leaves her apartment going to the 334 00:22:17,258 --> 00:22:19,619 grocery store or to the drug store with certain 335 00:22:19,620 --> 00:22:23,329 things in mind that she's going to buy. If she gets too many interruptions of the 336 00:22:23,330 --> 00:22:25,559 wrong type she's going to forget she went to buy, 337 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:27,308 and if she gets enough of them she's likely 338 00:22:27,333 --> 00:22:30,789 to forget that she's even going to go to the store. 339 00:22:30,790 --> 00:22:34,569 All life is made up of action chains, some 340 00:22:34,570 --> 00:22:36,387 of them are incredibly complex. 341 00:22:36,412 --> 00:22:39,439 You imagine going down the street and saying 342 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:43,402 'good morning', 'hello, how are you?' to every person you passed. 343 00:22:43,427 --> 00:22:46,709 It would be crazy. It would be a ridiculous situation. 344 00:22:46,710 --> 00:22:52,542 So what we do is we make all but our little tribe into non-people. 345 00:22:52,567 --> 00:22:55,939 And we're able to continue as tribesmen which 346 00:22:55,964 --> 00:22:59,728 is how we evolved within the super tribe of the city 347 00:22:59,753 --> 00:23:04,399 and that's what enables us to survive in these 348 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:06,655 huge conglomerations. 349 00:23:07,229 --> 00:23:09,360 DISORIENTATING MUSIC 350 00:23:25,455 --> 00:23:28,819 Each animal became less aware of associates 351 00:23:28,820 --> 00:23:32,033 despite all animals being pushed closer together. 352 00:23:32,045 --> 00:23:34,809 Dr. Calhoun concluded that the mice could 353 00:23:34,810 --> 00:23:39,706 not effectively deal with the repeated contact of so many individuals. 354 00:23:40,347 --> 00:23:43,419 People used to say it was a concrete jungle, but jungles aren't like that. 355 00:23:43,420 --> 00:23:48,639 This is a zoo where we're kept in small cages in this urban environment. 356 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:51,703 It's probably fair to say that we're inherently 357 00:23:51,715 --> 00:23:54,919 maladapted to the large kind of urban landscapes 358 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:56,832 in which most people live today. 359 00:23:56,857 --> 00:24:00,499 Something about the urban environment is changing 360 00:24:00,500 --> 00:24:03,799 the way people behave. One of the theories at the time is that there's 361 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:07,529 a miasma effect. When you bring all these people together, 362 00:24:07,530 --> 00:24:10,379 not only do they become a vector for one another's diseases, 363 00:24:10,380 --> 00:24:14,152 and of course you have epidemics of cholera and typhoid in cities, 364 00:24:14,177 --> 00:24:17,534 but also they become a vector for one another's vices. 365 00:24:17,738 --> 00:24:21,691 After being attacked, this socially withdrawn male 29 366 00:24:21,703 --> 00:24:25,079 makes a pan-sexual approach to male 16 367 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:33,080 who he recently saw attacked. Note how one assumes the female role. 368 00:24:33,606 --> 00:24:36,273 Males exhibit sexual behaviour towards other males; 369 00:24:36,285 --> 00:24:40,553 you have rat homosexuality. They begin mounting the young. 370 00:24:42,116 --> 00:24:46,605 Associated with his social withdrawal is pan-sexual 371 00:24:46,630 --> 00:24:48,913 mounting of a juvenile male. 372 00:24:49,626 --> 00:24:54,469 Gangs of males will attack a single female, mounting her repeatedly 373 00:24:54,494 --> 00:25:01,633 Here male 78 forcefully grabs estrous female 123 374 00:25:01,658 --> 00:25:07,200 and holds on. I call these 'frog mounts'. They may last 375 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:11,062 minutes rather than the normal 1 to 3 seconds. 376 00:25:12,450 --> 00:25:17,105 Females occasionally exhibit pan-sexual behaviour. 377 00:25:17,130 --> 00:25:25,130 Here female 47 attempts to mount dominant male 35 who resents her approaches. 378 00:25:25,784 --> 00:25:29,631 Though living with many males she rarely conceived. 379 00:25:29,978 --> 00:25:35,225 Here is an animal which doesn't have a society 380 00:25:35,250 --> 00:25:40,239 in the sense that people do and nonetheless seems to be behaving in a 381 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:42,362 way that people do when they're in cities. 382 00:25:42,387 --> 00:25:47,229 It's 1962. There is increasing concerns with 383 00:25:47,230 --> 00:25:51,330 overpopulation. There's concerns in particular with urban decay. 384 00:25:52,340 --> 00:25:56,569 Newark, New Jersey became a city of race riots, violence, looting and hate. 385 00:25:56,570 --> 00:26:01,069 For five days it was a battle ground and a looter's paradise. Similar riots in other 386 00:26:01,070 --> 00:26:04,229 American centres, with hatred near danger point between white 387 00:26:04,230 --> 00:26:10,247 and black extremist groups. 388 00:26:10,272 --> 00:26:14,296 Journalists and writers, fiction writers in particular, 389 00:26:14,321 --> 00:26:18,119 see this as a consequence of the mass of people, 390 00:26:18,120 --> 00:26:22,817 which is to say it's not just there were more people and therefore there was more crime; 391 00:26:22,842 --> 00:26:26,359 something was happening in the cities that was changing the way people behaved. 392 00:26:26,360 --> 00:26:29,924 {\an8}Complex societies have many different kinds of parts, 393 00:26:29,949 --> 00:26:32,329 {\an8} we have many kinds of technologies, 394 00:26:32,354 --> 00:26:35,412 we have many social roles and institutions, 395 00:26:35,424 --> 00:26:39,119 people specialise in these roles, people specialise in occupations. 396 00:26:39,144 --> 00:26:42,050 Dr. Calhoun noticed that the newer generations 397 00:26:42,051 --> 00:26:46,822 of young were inhibited, since most space was already socially defined. 398 00:26:46,823 --> 00:26:49,293 Violence became prevalent. 399 00:26:50,978 --> 00:26:54,746 These males here on the floor who are withdrawn, 400 00:26:54,771 --> 00:26:58,617 they are highly stressed animals, but the stress comes from each other because 401 00:26:58,618 --> 00:27:06,618 of this peculiar violence that they exhibit, which leaves them as this animal 402 00:27:06,643 --> 00:27:10,641 with his tail all chewed up... but they do it to each other. 403 00:27:10,666 --> 00:27:12,939 These are highly stressed individuals. 404 00:27:12,964 --> 00:27:16,469 As the chaos within these enclosures becomes 405 00:27:16,470 --> 00:27:20,689 more and more pronounced, you'll have rats which move away from the group, 406 00:27:20,690 --> 00:27:23,419 sit up on a little perch by themselves all day 407 00:27:23,420 --> 00:27:25,644 and only come down to feed at night or 408 00:27:25,645 --> 00:27:27,678 when there is no-one else around. 409 00:27:27,703 --> 00:27:29,949 Increasingly, even this becomes difficult to do. 410 00:27:29,974 --> 00:27:31,565 He calls it 'social autism'. 411 00:27:31,590 --> 00:27:37,711 The way that man differs is that he learned 412 00:27:37,736 --> 00:27:45,736 something very early in his cultural history and this was to develop new roles. 413 00:27:46,353 --> 00:27:49,715 This is what we mean by complexity: an increasing 414 00:27:49,727 --> 00:27:52,489 number of parts and an organisation to make 415 00:27:52,490 --> 00:27:54,865 those parts work together as a society. 416 00:27:55,146 --> 00:28:00,025 In this way the population can increase, the number of 417 00:28:00,050 --> 00:28:07,214 people in a particular area, provided you can develop codes to say how 418 00:28:07,215 --> 00:28:09,794 you operate in social contact, 419 00:28:09,819 --> 00:28:12,887 so that you interact with these people and not those people. 420 00:28:12,912 --> 00:28:18,370 He died before the internet and before social networking 421 00:28:18,395 --> 00:28:20,571 and blogging and all of that. 422 00:28:20,596 --> 00:28:24,109 {\an8}In an interview in 1970 Dr. Calhoun said: 423 00:28:24,110 --> 00:28:28,739 {\an8}"Very shortly the entire world population will be bound together into a single complete 424 00:28:28,740 --> 00:28:33,274 {\an8}information network." "It will require developing new information 425 00:28:33,275 --> 00:28:36,780 {\an8}prostheses to link these people's brains to a common pool of information 426 00:28:36,796 --> 00:28:38,623 as well as to each other." 427 00:28:38,648 --> 00:28:40,939 {\an8} "Computers are only the beginning." 428 00:28:40,940 --> 00:28:48,250 People have created their own little worlds and decided who gets to be part of them 429 00:28:48,260 --> 00:28:53,836 and how they relate and what their role in all those little worlds is. 430 00:28:53,861 --> 00:28:58,829 And all of the gaming that goes on online where people get on and game and take on a 431 00:28:58,830 --> 00:29:02,726 persona and interact under that persona. 432 00:29:02,727 --> 00:29:05,565 That's the ability I have as human being. 433 00:29:05,590 --> 00:29:09,459 I can spend an hour and a half as the hero of a movie 434 00:29:09,460 --> 00:29:13,057 because I have the ability of symbolic thought. 435 00:29:13,069 --> 00:29:16,369 I can make myself into that hero and enjoy 436 00:29:16,370 --> 00:29:19,897 his escapades and suffer when he suffers. 437 00:29:19,909 --> 00:29:25,092 And so a movie is nothing but symbolic thinking writ large. 438 00:29:25,249 --> 00:29:28,270 {\an8}A new kind of space, a conceptual world of 439 00:29:28,295 --> 00:29:31,650 ideas and progressive development of ideas. 440 00:29:31,675 --> 00:29:34,785 So almost that the real world is full so the 441 00:29:34,810 --> 00:29:37,228 leftover people inhabit a virtual world? 442 00:29:37,253 --> 00:29:41,319 Yes, and they can create new roles in that virtual world. 443 00:29:41,344 --> 00:29:47,038 When somebody creates a website, 444 00:29:47,063 --> 00:29:51,791 they're creating a role for themselves, independent 445 00:29:51,816 --> 00:29:55,533 of what society may be giving them as a role. 446 00:29:56,048 --> 00:29:58,804 Since 2010, for the first time in history, 447 00:29:58,890 --> 00:30:03,139 more than half of the world's population lives in urban areas. 448 00:30:03,140 --> 00:30:07,039 Most of us live in towns and cities. Certainly in rich counties but also increasingly in 449 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:10,659 {\an8}poor countries as well, and when you live in a town or a city, generally speaking, 450 00:30:10,660 --> 00:30:15,859 {\an8} you don't grow your own food, and in rich countries you have to go back 451 00:30:15,860 --> 00:30:22,570 generations now to get to anybody in my family or your family who actually was a farmer. 452 00:30:22,595 --> 00:30:24,391 We have literally lost our roots. 453 00:30:24,416 --> 00:30:27,359 {\an8}We've completely physically displaced people 454 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:31,245 {\an8}from the ecosystems that support them, and that has been accompanied 455 00:30:31,270 --> 00:30:35,309 by a psychological displacement; people no longer have any real sense, 456 00:30:35,310 --> 00:30:40,474 as I had as a child of being part of the planet, of being deeply connected to the earth. 457 00:30:40,475 --> 00:30:43,622 Once you've cut yourself off from the food and farming system, 458 00:30:43,647 --> 00:30:45,573 you forget how valuable it is, 459 00:30:45,598 --> 00:30:47,241 you forget how important it is. 460 00:30:47,266 --> 00:30:50,880 {\an8}75% of the US population is urban, 461 00:30:50,905 --> 00:30:56,200 {\an8}another 20% lives in cities of intermediate size down to 462 00:30:56,225 --> 00:30:59,460 villages but mostly intermediate size cities, 463 00:30:59,678 --> 00:31:02,725 and less than 3% is engaged in agriculture. 464 00:31:02,737 --> 00:31:05,749 You can sense that they're all convinced that 465 00:31:05,750 --> 00:31:08,650 food comes from the supermarkets. 466 00:31:16,710 --> 00:31:19,206 If you have a city that's this much pavement, 467 00:31:19,207 --> 00:31:22,508 inside that city there's a lot of people doing 468 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,615 things that require space outside the city 469 00:31:25,616 --> 00:31:30,165 to support their life. This much forest area to absorb the CO2 that's 470 00:31:30,166 --> 00:31:33,609 being emitted. This much crop area to produce the food for 471 00:31:33,610 --> 00:31:35,939 all the people that are living in that paved area. 472 00:31:35,940 --> 00:31:40,204 {\an8}This much pavement still requires a massive amount of land outside of it 473 00:31:40,229 --> 00:31:45,206 {\an8}to support the people that are living on the pavement. 474 00:32:33,641 --> 00:32:36,237 It's always made sense for animals to eat 475 00:32:36,238 --> 00:32:38,537 whatever food they could get the minute they could get it 476 00:32:38,538 --> 00:32:42,855 {\an8}because they couldn't plan for the future. Now we have grocery stores that are open 24 477 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:47,459 hours a day 7 days a week and we still have that hunger and we eat far 478 00:32:47,460 --> 00:32:51,179 more than we need to because our brains were calibrated to an earlier 479 00:32:51,180 --> 00:32:53,610 era when food was not as widely available. 480 00:32:55,805 --> 00:32:59,204 So many millions but only one earth... 481 00:32:59,260 --> 00:33:03,109 Each man's need is that of his neighbour, 482 00:33:03,110 --> 00:33:07,085 for all there is to share is the wealth of the world 483 00:33:14,281 --> 00:33:16,935 If you take any population, could be an individual, 484 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,781 the population of a city or a whole country, 485 00:33:19,793 --> 00:33:22,689 the ecological footprint is simply a measure 486 00:33:22,690 --> 00:33:27,678 of the total area of productive land and water ecosystems needed 487 00:33:27,703 --> 00:33:32,579 to produce the resources that that population consumes and to assimilate 488 00:33:32,580 --> 00:33:35,618 the wastes that are associated with that consumption process. 489 00:33:35,643 --> 00:33:38,199 {\an8} If you were to take the entire human population 490 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:42,469 {\an8}as it exists today, nearly 7 billion people, 491 00:33:42,494 --> 00:33:44,370 and spread people out across the land surface 492 00:33:44,371 --> 00:33:49,414 area of the earth, evenly, every individual would have a certain amount of space. 493 00:33:49,439 --> 00:33:53,329 That space is approximately the size of this stadium. 494 00:33:53,330 --> 00:33:56,633 That's the area in which you have to grow your food, 495 00:33:56,658 --> 00:33:59,314 put your residence, have your recreational facilities. 496 00:33:59,415 --> 00:34:03,290 {\an8}Economics is about scarcity, so if something is not scarce 497 00:34:03,315 --> 00:34:05,750 it kind of falls out of economics. 498 00:34:05,775 --> 00:34:10,212 So as long as we we're living in a basically empty world, 499 00:34:10,237 --> 00:34:14,876 empty of us and our stuff and full of other things, 500 00:34:15,690 --> 00:34:21,369 then we could probably get away with just leaving resources 501 00:34:21,370 --> 00:34:23,620 out of the picture because they were super-abundant. 502 00:34:23,645 --> 00:34:27,609 {\an8}When I was born in 1962, humanity used about 503 00:34:27,610 --> 00:34:32,458 {\an8}half the planet's capacity. Today, we are using at least 40% more than 504 00:34:32,459 --> 00:34:37,839 what Earth can regenerate, so what humanity uses in one year, 505 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:42,671 it takes the biosphere one year and four to five months to regenerate. 506 00:34:42,781 --> 00:34:48,899 What's the fish catch limited by today? Is it limited by fishing boats and fishermen? 507 00:34:48,900 --> 00:34:52,642 No. We've got too many fishing boats, more than we need. 508 00:34:52,667 --> 00:34:55,509 It's limited by the remaining fish and their 509 00:34:55,510 --> 00:35:00,849 capacity to reproduce, so it's the natural resource which, in the 510 00:35:00,850 --> 00:35:03,183 full world, has become the limiting factor. 511 00:35:03,300 --> 00:35:09,219 Someone was talking about conservation there to which Charlie said: 512 00:35:09,220 --> 00:35:13,587 "If you don't use the oil, someone in China will be happy to use it." 513 00:35:13,588 --> 00:35:19,751 And he's right. What's the point of conservation? 514 00:35:19,776 --> 00:35:23,575 Unless the whole world signs onto it, what's the point? 515 00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:26,967 China's not going to sign onto it. 516 00:35:26,992 --> 00:35:29,060 And that's the tragedy of the commons, right there. 517 00:35:29,085 --> 00:35:33,139 That is a kind of tragedy of the commons, yeah. 518 00:35:33,140 --> 00:35:34,959 The Tragedy of the Commons 519 00:35:34,984 --> 00:35:38,935 Imagine a pasture where any shepherd can bring his sheep to graze. 520 00:35:38,982 --> 00:35:41,529 The pasture is an open access resource, free 521 00:35:41,530 --> 00:35:44,388 for any member of the public to use. 522 00:35:44,413 --> 00:35:47,761 One shepherd realises that if he brings more sheep than anyone else, 523 00:35:47,786 --> 00:35:51,651 he can benefit from using more of the pasture at no extra cost. 524 00:35:51,676 --> 00:35:54,364 He can bring as many sheep as he likes, whenever he likes, 525 00:35:54,389 --> 00:35:57,467 giving him a short term profit. 526 00:35:57,492 --> 00:36:00,754 If he didn't, somebody else would, right? 527 00:36:00,779 --> 00:36:08,000 In the end, the pasture is destroyed by overuse and everyone suffers the consequences. 528 00:36:11,521 --> 00:36:16,404 We have open access resources, they really are scarce. 529 00:36:16,429 --> 00:36:23,689 {\an8}Nobody has an individual incentive to grab less, because we all share in the downside 530 00:36:23,690 --> 00:36:27,829 in the end, so we kind of rush to disaster. 531 00:36:27,830 --> 00:36:32,519 {\an8}The environment especially requires government regulation and government oversight 532 00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:38,409 because without government regulation and government oversight, the environment suffers, 533 00:36:38,410 --> 00:36:41,209 and when the environment suffers, the truth is we all suffer. 534 00:36:41,210 --> 00:36:45,049 {\an8}We already have governments and things are falling apart, 535 00:36:45,050 --> 00:36:50,829 {\an8}so the idea that you have to have government rule in order to keep things from falling 536 00:36:50,830 --> 00:36:56,024 apart, I think historically it goes the other direction. 537 00:36:56,025 --> 00:36:59,519 Perhaps you have to privatise things in some way if you're dealing with land 538 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:05,359 so that people can have control over part of this once-common resource. 539 00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:10,119 The tragedy that Garrett Hardin described didn't actually happen, historically. 540 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,569 Those commons were self-sustaining, the people 541 00:37:12,581 --> 00:37:15,309 involved did agree among themselves on regulations 542 00:37:15,310 --> 00:37:19,629 and enforce them. The commons eventually got destroyed because 543 00:37:19,630 --> 00:37:23,479 outside forces came in and took the land away, and that was the end of the commons. 544 00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:30,039 {\an8}It has been pointed out, quite rightly, that traditionally, commons systems do work 545 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:32,198 because there are social or political controls 546 00:37:32,210 --> 00:37:34,380 that keep people from exploiting the commons, 547 00:37:34,381 --> 00:37:39,369 but when you get rid of those, as we have in the USA, for example, 548 00:37:39,394 --> 00:37:41,079 you end up in a real mess. 549 00:37:41,104 --> 00:37:42,820 We are in the tragedy of the commons because 550 00:37:42,821 --> 00:37:46,560 we've set up an economy whereby all the benefits go to individuals 551 00:37:46,585 --> 00:37:49,843 but all the costs are dumped on society. 552 00:37:54,063 --> 00:37:58,137 A land of dark and primitive contrast... 553 00:37:58,138 --> 00:38:04,329 plenty and scarcity, richness and poverty. 554 00:38:04,658 --> 00:38:08,633 Here lived Africa's peoples, buried in their jungle, 555 00:38:08,658 --> 00:38:12,702 too backward to realise the inheritance it offered, 556 00:38:12,727 --> 00:38:15,720 the untapped resources of their vast continent. 557 00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:23,103 Human need crying in the wilderness, the only answer: 558 00:38:23,104 --> 00:38:25,405 the magic of the witch doctor. 559 00:38:25,430 --> 00:38:31,421 Superstition, age-old fears, recurring plague. 560 00:38:31,868 --> 00:38:35,911 In Africa, in its jungles and in its villages, 561 00:38:35,936 --> 00:38:38,991 wealth lay wasting. 562 00:38:39,016 --> 00:38:42,976 {\an8}The birthright of African children is being sold. 563 00:38:43,001 --> 00:38:46,372 {\an8} It's being sold internationally. 564 00:38:46,397 --> 00:38:50,806 Governments are selling land and they're selling resources. 565 00:38:50,807 --> 00:38:53,977 They're partly being sold because they need to 566 00:38:53,989 --> 00:38:57,169 invest in their health and education systems, 567 00:38:57,170 --> 00:38:58,826 so they're in a kind of vicious cycle. 568 00:38:58,827 --> 00:39:01,694 {\an8}They're inviting in those foreign corporations 569 00:39:01,715 --> 00:39:07,661 {\an8}to own and control their resources and to set their economic priorities, so pretty soon 570 00:39:07,686 --> 00:39:13,809 you find that your whole economy is designed and operated not to meet the needs 571 00:39:13,810 --> 00:39:14,808 of your own people. 572 00:39:14,833 --> 00:39:19,059 They are selling, on 99 year leases, land 573 00:39:19,060 --> 00:39:22,018 that has historically provided cattle grazing, 574 00:39:22,019 --> 00:39:25,595 land that has historically provided local maize 575 00:39:25,620 --> 00:39:28,906 land that has given communities security. 576 00:39:28,918 --> 00:39:34,756 But it is also then the advice that the countries get 577 00:39:34,781 --> 00:39:38,529 that says the way to grow your economy and maximise 578 00:39:38,530 --> 00:39:42,649 your wealth is to organise your resources for export. 579 00:39:42,650 --> 00:39:45,709 Other people will grow our food for us, we're so rich, 580 00:39:45,710 --> 00:39:47,217 we'll just be able to buy it from them. 581 00:39:47,242 --> 00:39:49,409 This is a new form of colonisation which is 582 00:39:49,410 --> 00:39:53,589 very clearly the colonisation of essentially everybody 583 00:39:53,590 --> 00:39:59,099 by a small elite class that controls these corporate institutions. 584 00:39:59,100 --> 00:40:06,339 This is a really rather terrifying fact, and that land is in many cases lying fallow. 585 00:40:06,621 --> 00:40:11,999 One of the things that stunned me when I was working in Asia in development 586 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:17,089 was to hear economists saying "don't worry about your agricultural sector" 587 00:40:17,090 --> 00:40:22,617 "in an advanced country that's a very small piece of GDP," 588 00:40:22,618 --> 00:40:25,737 "use that land for its higher value use, like a 589 00:40:25,749 --> 00:40:28,879 golf course, housing development or a shopping mall," 590 00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:32,308 "or an export processing zone, or whatever, 591 00:40:32,333 --> 00:40:38,449 but you're just wasting it on agriculture." 592 00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:41,785 Now they were telling everybody that 593 00:40:41,810 --> 00:40:45,705 so then you ask who's going to grow the food, 594 00:40:45,717 --> 00:40:49,796 and it's part of this disconnect from reality, 595 00:40:49,797 --> 00:40:57,797 whereas if you say well, whatever percentage food is of GDP, I still need to eat. 596 00:40:58,797 --> 00:41:04,679 {\an8}It's a common economic delusion that as long as the price is right, you will always get 597 00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:08,469 what you need. Paul Ehrlich said that economists would not 598 00:41:08,470 --> 00:41:10,415 worry if they were in a bus going over a cliff 599 00:41:10,427 --> 00:41:12,469 because they would be confident that the sudden 600 00:41:12,470 --> 00:41:15,325 market demand for parachutes would generate a supply 601 00:41:15,350 --> 00:41:17,759 before they hit the bottom. 602 00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:21,695 Economists simply don't believe in limits, 603 00:41:21,720 --> 00:41:25,820 they believe that if the price is high enough there will always be a solution. 604 00:41:25,821 --> 00:41:30,165 {\an8}We can eat down the food chain, but we cannot eat recipes. 605 00:41:30,190 --> 00:41:34,309 We are already short of food, but we will become more and more short of food, 606 00:41:34,310 --> 00:41:41,310 so those with the means are buying up, are insuring against, the loss of food. 607 00:41:41,981 --> 00:41:46,589 in July 2008, the government of Madagascar agreed to give half of the country's farmland 608 00:41:46,590 --> 00:41:49,497 to a subsidiary of the Daewoo corporation of South Korea, 609 00:41:49,522 --> 00:41:52,714 for free, for 99 years. 610 00:41:52,715 --> 00:41:56,398 Daewoo announced plans to export maize and palm oil. 611 00:41:56,423 --> 00:41:58,423 A manager at the company said: 612 00:41:58,447 --> 00:42:00,320 "Food can be a weapon in this world...we can 613 00:42:00,332 --> 00:42:02,539 either export the harvests to other countries 614 00:42:02,540 --> 00:42:07,099 or ship them back to Korea in case of a food crisis." 615 00:42:07,100 --> 00:42:10,055 In March 2009, the government of Madagascar 616 00:42:10,067 --> 00:42:12,978 was overthrown by a coup d'etat and replaced. 617 00:42:13,003 --> 00:42:15,212 The new government cancelled the deal, saying that 618 00:42:15,237 --> 00:42:18,410 it was in violation of Madagascar's constitution. 619 00:42:19,510 --> 00:42:22,155 In response, Madagascar was suspended from the 620 00:42:22,167 --> 00:42:24,649 African Union and had foreign aid withheld 621 00:42:24,650 --> 00:42:27,751 by the World Bank for over two years. 622 00:42:27,776 --> 00:42:32,422 {\an8}If everyone was to aspire to a Western-style diet, 623 00:42:32,447 --> 00:42:36,204 and the average Western-style diet is an Italian diet, 624 00:42:36,229 --> 00:42:39,813 both in terms of the number of calories and the amount of meat that's consumed, 625 00:42:39,838 --> 00:42:42,797 there isn't enough land on the planet to feed everybody, 626 00:42:42,822 --> 00:42:45,387 whether that's 8, 9 or 10 billion, it doesn't matter. 627 00:42:45,412 --> 00:42:46,474 There isn't enough land. 628 00:42:46,499 --> 00:42:48,559 There are people arguing that there is enough 629 00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:51,692 food to go around in the world, the problem is the way it's distributed. 630 00:42:51,717 --> 00:42:55,078 I forget how many people you could feed with 631 00:42:55,090 --> 00:42:58,199 the grain that goes into making one Big Mac, 632 00:42:58,200 --> 00:42:59,849 but it's a lot of people. 633 00:42:59,874 --> 00:43:03,009 The world now produces about 2 kilograms of 634 00:43:03,010 --> 00:43:08,269 food per person per day. So if it was shared equally, each person would 635 00:43:08,270 --> 00:43:12,009 have each day about a kilogram of fruit and vegetables, 636 00:43:12,010 --> 00:43:16,699 about half a kilogram of cereals and pulses and about half a kilogram of protein in the 637 00:43:16,700 --> 00:43:21,609 form of meat or fish or eggs. It would take a pretty good trencherman to 638 00:43:21,610 --> 00:43:26,309 get their jaws around 2 kilograms of food a day, 639 00:43:26,310 --> 00:43:30,832 and even in the rich parts of the world people don't consume at that level. 640 00:43:30,857 --> 00:43:37,168 {\an8}The reason why people starve in a world that has enough food is because they don't have 641 00:43:37,169 --> 00:43:39,100 the money or the power to buy it. 642 00:43:39,125 --> 00:43:42,769 We have a globe where some parties have much 643 00:43:42,770 --> 00:43:46,579 more power than others, and some parties have much more power to regulate 644 00:43:46,580 --> 00:43:50,109 and to determine the rules that they want others to live by. 645 00:43:50,110 --> 00:43:53,199 If we distribute food through a market, it means that 646 00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:58,609 dogs and cats in the USA eat better than peasants in poor parts of the world. 647 00:43:58,610 --> 00:44:03,499 It's not about the food in the long term, it's about money and it's about power. 648 00:44:03,500 --> 00:44:08,329 No rich person ever starved. The use of resources became unequal. 649 00:44:08,330 --> 00:44:13,299 Although each living unit was identical in structure and opportunities, 650 00:44:13,300 --> 00:44:18,785 more food and water was consumed in some areas. 651 00:44:18,810 --> 00:44:24,016 In 2011, 20% of the world's people consumed 80% of the world's resources, 652 00:44:24,041 --> 00:44:28,657 leaving 20% of the world's resources for 80% of the world's people. 653 00:44:28,682 --> 00:44:34,417 One thing that differentiates us from Calhoun's experiments as I recall them 654 00:44:34,442 --> 00:44:37,997 is that there was never a resource scarcity. 655 00:44:38,022 --> 00:44:41,929 In 1970 a scientist named Norman Borlaug won the Nobel Peace Prize 656 00:44:41,930 --> 00:44:46,249 for his ongoing work to increase food production around the world. 657 00:44:46,250 --> 00:44:51,168 Using pioneering techniques of genetic modification, Borlaug designed strains of wheat, 658 00:44:51,169 --> 00:44:56,079 corn and rice which fed over a billion people worldwide. 659 00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:59,899 The Green Revolution, as it was called, is hailed even today as the triumph of man 660 00:44:59,900 --> 00:45:02,400 over the limits of nature. 661 00:45:02,425 --> 00:45:06,149 Worldwide, we have doubled the amount of crops 662 00:45:06,150 --> 00:45:09,639 that we grow over the last forty years -- we needed to 663 00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:11,267 because the world population doubled - 664 00:45:11,292 --> 00:45:14,509 but we are taking three times more water 665 00:45:14,534 --> 00:45:16,572 out of our rivers to do it. 666 00:45:16,597 --> 00:45:18,879 Water's basically a renewable resource. 667 00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:22,829 The river flow we see today, no matter how much we use today, 668 00:45:22,830 --> 00:45:27,650 is going to come back in rainfall tomorrow and we're going to get more river flow. 669 00:45:27,675 --> 00:45:30,719 But there are peak limits to even a renewable resource; 670 00:45:30,720 --> 00:45:34,165 we can't use more water than a river naturally provides. 671 00:45:34,190 --> 00:45:38,760 {\an8}You may think about how much you drink or how much water you use to flush the toilet, 672 00:45:38,785 --> 00:45:45,229 but the real demands on water round the world for you to get through your day 673 00:45:45,230 --> 00:45:48,995 are food and drink and perhaps growing cotton for your clothing. 674 00:45:49,020 --> 00:45:51,497 I worked out my water footprint. 675 00:45:51,522 --> 00:45:57,669 It is a hundred times my weight in water every day. 676 00:45:57,910 --> 00:46:00,549 That's what's needed to get me through my life. 677 00:46:00,550 --> 00:46:03,614 If you imagine that among 7 billion people, 678 00:46:03,639 --> 00:46:08,534 that's a huge demand on nature's water cycle. 679 00:46:09,882 --> 00:46:11,882 MUSIC PLAYS 680 00:46:38,043 --> 00:46:41,839 {\an8}Once upon a time this was considered the Rio Grande or Rio Bravo, 681 00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:49,840 which means brave or violent and nowadays it is tame and it is small. 682 00:46:50,769 --> 00:46:53,739 Northern China, the Yellow River doesn't reach 683 00:46:53,751 --> 00:46:56,149 the sea in anything other than tiny amounts. 684 00:46:56,174 --> 00:47:00,289 {\an8}Central Asia, running out of water. The Aral Sea will dry up. 685 00:47:00,290 --> 00:47:03,709 The Nile no longer reaches the Mediterranean Sea. 686 00:47:03,710 --> 00:47:07,519 The Colorado, like the Nile, like the Yellow, no longer reaches the mouth. 687 00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:13,029 You go to Pakistan, the river Indus, another great river, being completely dried up 688 00:47:13,030 --> 00:47:16,969 for much of the year because all the water is being taken out 689 00:47:16,970 --> 00:47:18,005 to grow crops. 690 00:47:18,030 --> 00:47:22,199 {\an8} You're taking a video of a farmer here who 691 00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:28,704 basically lost his way of life due to a lack of not only water quality, but quantity. 692 00:47:28,705 --> 00:47:33,879 They are now pumping water underground so much that it is getting contaminated. 693 00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:40,337 The water table is going down. Gaza is a strip right next to the Mediterranean Sea; 694 00:47:40,362 --> 00:47:43,158 the underground rocks where the water is held 695 00:47:43,159 --> 00:47:47,263 are being invaded by salty seawater. 696 00:47:47,288 --> 00:47:49,879 What there is that you can draw is such a 697 00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:54,601 poor quality, it's salty, it's kind of like sprinkling salt on your ground, 698 00:47:54,626 --> 00:47:57,408 and so every time you water, you're making 699 00:47:57,409 --> 00:47:59,361 your land worse. 700 00:47:59,386 --> 00:48:05,499 So the only water resource that the Palestinian people of Gaza have 701 00:48:05,524 --> 00:48:08,714 to fill their taps, to grow their crops, 702 00:48:08,715 --> 00:48:10,650 is a water resource which 703 00:48:10,651 --> 00:48:15,158 is becoming, year by year, more and more salty, more and more saline. 704 00:48:15,159 --> 00:48:20,728 At some point not far away that will be too salty to grow crops. 705 00:48:20,753 --> 00:48:22,780 The salt will kill the crops. 706 00:48:22,805 --> 00:48:25,290 It will be too salty to drink. 707 00:48:25,315 --> 00:48:27,806 What does Gaza do then? 708 00:48:27,831 --> 00:48:31,549 {\an8}When you are using a non-renewable water resource 709 00:48:31,550 --> 00:48:37,049 {\an8}like a groundwater aquifer, that's recharged very slowly, it's exactly like peak oil. 710 00:48:37,074 --> 00:48:41,528 You have peak water limits when you over-pump groundwater aquifers. 711 00:48:41,553 --> 00:48:44,735 In the mid-1950s, King Hubbert predicted that 712 00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:47,976 US oil production would peak about 1971 713 00:48:48,001 --> 00:48:51,569 and that the US would become a major purchaser 714 00:48:51,570 --> 00:48:53,845 which could lead to an international oil crisis 715 00:48:53,857 --> 00:48:56,951 by changing the balance between producers and consumers. 716 00:48:56,976 --> 00:49:02,966 {\an8}That prediction proved to be rather startling and somewhat distressing. 717 00:49:02,991 --> 00:49:05,930 This is as of 1972. 718 00:49:05,955 --> 00:49:08,262 So this curve gone like that and that little 719 00:49:08,274 --> 00:49:10,390 peak there is the year 1970 and we were down 720 00:49:10,391 --> 00:49:14,191 in 1971 and we've had four more years since then 721 00:49:14,216 --> 00:49:17,059 and we've been going down about 5% per year ever since. 722 00:49:17,060 --> 00:49:22,179 The US started to become a major purchaser, the balance between producers and consumers 723 00:49:22,180 --> 00:49:25,539 changed, the OPEC oil crisis happened in 1973, the 724 00:49:25,540 --> 00:49:30,249 price of oil went from $1.90 a barrel to $30 a barrel in eight years 725 00:49:30,250 --> 00:49:33,293 and the world as we know it changed. 726 00:49:33,318 --> 00:49:38,060 Now, this complete cycle for the world, I'll give you a timescale on that. 727 00:49:38,085 --> 00:49:41,756 Bear in mind, that started in 1857. 728 00:49:41,781 --> 00:49:45,019 Here's where we were about three or four years ago. 729 00:49:45,031 --> 00:49:47,379 This was proved reserves in here which 730 00:49:47,380 --> 00:49:51,389 would add up to about here. The estimated peak would occur about 1995 731 00:49:51,390 --> 00:49:53,523 and then we'd go into the decline. 732 00:49:53,548 --> 00:49:55,449 Our civilisation has been built around the 733 00:49:55,450 --> 00:49:59,210 idea that there's always going to be more energy available next year than this year. 734 00:49:59,235 --> 00:50:01,684 And it's been true. We've always been producing 735 00:50:01,696 --> 00:50:04,145 more coal, producing more oil, producing more everything. 736 00:50:04,170 --> 00:50:07,091 {\an8}The nature of the problem is not that we're running out of oil. 737 00:50:07,116 --> 00:50:09,139 The nature of the problem is that we have 738 00:50:09,140 --> 00:50:14,561 expanded the economy on growing oil production for a hundred years now 739 00:50:14,586 --> 00:50:18,439 and the population has exploded with the growth in oil production. 740 00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:21,960 So you have a gradually declining production of oil 741 00:50:21,985 --> 00:50:25,360 while you have constantly increasing demand, 742 00:50:25,385 --> 00:50:28,209 and the gap that opens between there becomes 743 00:50:28,210 --> 00:50:30,502 a chasm into which the economy falls. 744 00:50:30,527 --> 00:50:35,964 {\an8}The current economic model sees growing populations often as a positive 745 00:50:35,989 --> 00:50:40,908 and doesn't factor in the fact that a growing population 746 00:50:40,933 --> 00:50:46,249 is increasingly clashing against the ecological limits. 747 00:50:46,250 --> 00:50:51,149 {\an8}Usually we value things in terms of money, but in fact the ultimate value is energy, 748 00:50:51,150 --> 00:50:53,469 because energy is the source of money. 749 00:50:53,494 --> 00:50:57,998 {\an8}We shovel coal for ten hours, we get a paycheck, we go and eat a meal. 750 00:50:58,023 --> 00:51:01,984 {\an8} But instead, we eat the meal first 751 00:51:02,009 --> 00:51:04,537 and then there's a backlog of coal that we have to shovel. 752 00:51:04,562 --> 00:51:07,408 - Exactly. - And all that's happening is we're backing 753 00:51:07,409 --> 00:51:10,334 it up to the point where there aren't enough years in the human lifespan 754 00:51:10,359 --> 00:51:11,538 to work for long enough 755 00:51:11,563 --> 00:51:14,028 to pay off the debt we've accumulated for the things that we're taking. 756 00:51:14,053 --> 00:51:15,912 There's not enough coal to shovel, 757 00:51:15,937 --> 00:51:18,162 or not enough hours to shovel the coal. 758 00:51:18,187 --> 00:51:20,084 It depends on how you want to look at it. 759 00:51:20,109 --> 00:51:25,717 {\an8}When you have a debt-based money system as we do now, it drives economic growth, 760 00:51:25,742 --> 00:51:28,819 not in a good way but in quite a destructive way. 761 00:51:28,820 --> 00:51:31,546 The simplest sense system guarantees that 762 00:51:31,558 --> 00:51:35,114 in order for there to be money in the economy for the economy to function, 763 00:51:35,139 --> 00:51:36,740 we have to have the debt as well. 764 00:51:36,765 --> 00:51:39,859 My assumption is that this is no longer possible 765 00:51:39,871 --> 00:51:42,272 due to the complexity of getting at resources 766 00:51:42,297 --> 00:51:46,759 and the complexity of serving debt and therefore also creating more debt, 767 00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:50,600 which will be hampered by the risk that is inherent to new debt 768 00:51:50,625 --> 00:51:53,373 because it's just on top of a lot of other existing debt. 769 00:51:53,374 --> 00:51:57,117 In terms of how money is created, at the simplest level, 770 00:51:57,142 --> 00:52:00,679 the numbers in your bank account are not actually money. 771 00:52:00,704 --> 00:52:02,939 It's effectively a representation of what 772 00:52:02,940 --> 00:52:06,679 the bank promises to pay you at some point in the future. 773 00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:10,059 So because this isn't actually money and it's in a digital form, 774 00:52:10,060 --> 00:52:13,984 there is no law that makes it illegal for banks to create this type of money. 775 00:52:13,985 --> 00:52:16,843 So the numbers in your account can actually be 776 00:52:16,855 --> 00:52:19,405 created by a bank just at their own choice, 777 00:52:19,483 --> 00:52:23,632 and when the bank makes a loan, these numbers are created out of nothing. 778 00:52:23,657 --> 00:52:29,060 So, where we are now, every single pound in your own bank account, 779 00:52:29,085 --> 00:52:32,022 and in everybody else's bank account, was created by commercial banks 780 00:52:32,047 --> 00:52:35,539 effectively out of nothing, at the point when they make a loan. 781 00:52:35,540 --> 00:52:38,140 So in other words, all money is debt. 782 00:52:40,274 --> 00:52:42,287 ARCADE GAME NOISES 783 00:53:01,255 --> 00:53:03,353 BREAKS INTO SONG 784 00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:25,384 We've now built this system that has almost everything we do 785 00:53:25,409 --> 00:53:30,253 built with money we have to pay back, so work we have to do in the future, 786 00:53:30,278 --> 00:53:32,278 resources we have to use in the future. 787 00:53:32,294 --> 00:53:35,798 On the most recent figures there's 2.7 trillion of debt 788 00:53:35,823 --> 00:53:38,424 and only 2.2 trillion of money, 789 00:53:38,449 --> 00:53:40,190 so we're already past the point where we could 790 00:53:40,191 --> 00:53:43,179 repay the debt. If we took all our money now and used it to 791 00:53:43,180 --> 00:53:46,685 pay off the debt, we'd be left with absolutely no money and 792 00:53:46,686 --> 00:53:49,305 yet we'd still owe around 500 billion to the banks. 793 00:53:49,330 --> 00:53:55,867 {\an8}There are two ideas in our culture that have captured the public imagination 794 00:53:55,892 --> 00:53:58,703 in the last thirty years that are very dangerous. 795 00:53:58,728 --> 00:54:02,999 One is the idea that if you wish upon a star, your dreams will come true. 796 00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:05,805 It's a good idea for seven year-olds, it helps them sleep, 797 00:54:05,830 --> 00:54:08,318 but it's not good for adults who need to know 798 00:54:08,330 --> 00:54:11,712 the difference between wishing for stuff and making stuff happen. 799 00:54:11,737 --> 00:54:14,729 The companion to that is the idea that it's 800 00:54:14,730 --> 00:54:16,956 possible to get something for nothing, 801 00:54:16,957 --> 00:54:20,157 and that's why Las Vegas is so popular, because 802 00:54:20,190 --> 00:54:22,879 now everybody wants to believe you can get something for nothing. 803 00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:26,819 That really doesn't comport with the way reality works. 804 00:54:26,820 --> 00:54:30,629 Unfortunately, you combine these two ideas, that when you wish upon a star you'll get 805 00:54:30,630 --> 00:54:33,389 something for nothing, that's sort of where we're at. 806 00:54:33,390 --> 00:54:38,152 Dr Calhoun explains what the overcrowding did to Mouse City's inhabitants... 807 00:54:38,177 --> 00:54:45,340 {\an8}The last thousand animals born never learned to develop the social behaviours, 808 00:54:45,365 --> 00:54:50,050 they never learned to be aggressive, which is necessary in defence of home sites; 809 00:54:50,075 --> 00:54:55,849 not engaging in any stressful activity, and only paying attention to themselves, 810 00:54:55,850 --> 00:55:00,509 they groomed themselves well so they looked like very fine specimens. 811 00:55:00,510 --> 00:55:05,129 Dr Calhoun called these individuals "the Beautiful Ones". 812 00:55:05,130 --> 00:55:11,410 Their time was devoted solely to grooming, eating and sleeping. 813 00:55:11,435 --> 00:55:16,929 They never involved themselves with others, engaged in sex, nor would they fight. 814 00:55:16,930 --> 00:55:22,479 All appeared as a beautiful exhibit of the species, with keen alert eyes 815 00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:25,269 and a healthy well-kept body. 816 00:55:26,325 --> 00:55:28,325 HIGH TEMPO MUSIC 817 00:55:46,831 --> 00:55:50,504 These mice could not cope with unusual stimuli. 818 00:55:50,505 --> 00:55:56,245 Though they looked inquisitive, they were in fact very stupid. 819 00:55:56,270 --> 00:56:01,425 {\an8}The North American land mass is actually sinking, 820 00:56:01,450 --> 00:56:05,683 and they attribute this to the burgeoning waistlines in the USA. 821 00:56:05,708 --> 00:56:07,630 Now whether or not that's true I don't know, 822 00:56:07,631 --> 00:56:11,020 but I did read this in the American National Enquirer. 823 00:56:11,045 --> 00:56:14,066 {\an8}The main Malthusian idea I want to challenge 824 00:56:14,078 --> 00:56:16,661 {\an8}today is the idea that resources are finite. 825 00:56:16,686 --> 00:56:20,999 {\an8}The main problem with resource pessimists such as Malthusians 826 00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:25,145 is that they continually mistake social limits for physical limits. 827 00:56:25,170 --> 00:56:28,058 {\an8}The space issue is just a complete red herring. 828 00:56:28,070 --> 00:56:30,569 {\an8}Go to somewhere like Australia, there's no-one there. 829 00:56:30,570 --> 00:56:33,799 You could have billions and billions of people 830 00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:36,682 in Australia alone, so the space thing just doesn't work. 831 00:56:36,707 --> 00:56:42,948 We tell people "Live for the day"; in fact, that day might not even be very long. 832 00:56:42,973 --> 00:56:47,179 Dr Calhoun called the last period the "Die" phase 833 00:56:47,180 --> 00:56:50,175 leading the population into extinction. 834 00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:53,658 Although the mouse utopia could house 3000, 835 00:56:53,659 --> 00:56:58,104 the population began to decline at 2200. 836 00:56:58,129 --> 00:57:01,681 For animals up to a year of age 837 00:57:01,706 --> 00:57:04,384 who've come up in the latter history of the colonies, 838 00:57:04,409 --> 00:57:07,663 there's essentially no evidence of conceiving. 839 00:57:07,664 --> 00:57:12,859 This is part of the "overliving" phenomenon. And 840 00:57:12,884 --> 00:57:17,421 it's these individuals who are not conceiving are the ones which are not stressed; 841 00:57:17,446 --> 00:57:20,419 they are the Beautiful Ones who lack involvement. 842 00:57:20,444 --> 00:57:25,161 They never learned to court so there was no mating. 843 00:57:25,186 --> 00:57:29,693 Being no mating there were no progeny. 844 00:57:29,718 --> 00:57:33,609 The older animals whose behaviour was already 845 00:57:33,610 --> 00:57:39,270 becoming disrupted, they eventually reached an age too old to reproduce 846 00:57:39,295 --> 00:57:44,520 Reproduction totally ceased and the animals have just aged and died. 847 00:57:44,545 --> 00:57:47,679 {\an8}Calhoun repeats this experiment several times 848 00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:50,898 {\an8}and each time the same range of behavioural pathologies 849 00:57:50,899 --> 00:57:53,006 are exhibited, they're reliably exhibited. 850 00:57:53,039 --> 00:57:56,038 The population begins to die off and does so inexorably. 851 00:57:56,063 --> 00:57:58,936 It dies off, to extinction, each time. 852 00:57:58,961 --> 00:58:04,131 Eventually, the entire mouse population perished. 853 00:58:04,264 --> 00:58:07,585 Dr Calhoun's experiment is a classic example 854 00:58:07,610 --> 00:58:11,648 of the typical population and its growth when left unchecked. 855 00:58:11,649 --> 00:58:17,476 So, in effect, by providing absolute abundance of all necessities, 856 00:58:17,501 --> 00:58:23,055 the base requirements of existence, these populations bred themselves to a point 857 00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:29,044 where behavioural change was so endemic that the populations crashed to extinction. 858 00:58:29,045 --> 00:58:31,483 I see population not as a driver 859 00:58:31,508 --> 00:58:35,597 but as a natural follow-through from the age of cheap energy, 860 00:58:35,622 --> 00:58:39,199 this 300 year period when we have been using 861 00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:42,076 up half a billion years of stored sunlight 862 00:58:42,101 --> 00:58:44,359 to give ourselves more energy than any other 863 00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:46,740 group of human beings has ever had in history. 864 00:58:46,765 --> 00:58:50,340 Everything that we do in our society comes from energy. 865 00:58:50,365 --> 00:58:54,426 Our wealth comes from energy, our ability to innovate comes from energy, 866 00:58:54,451 --> 00:58:59,207 our ability to progress comes from energy and specifically from fossil fuels. 867 00:58:59,232 --> 00:59:01,130 There's nothing abstract about it. 868 00:59:01,131 --> 00:59:05,459 The way we do food production, agriculture, farming. 869 00:59:05,460 --> 00:59:10,787 The way we do commerce, retail, buying and selling things. 870 00:59:10,812 --> 00:59:15,888 The way we do manufacturing. The way we inhabit the landscape. 871 00:59:15,913 --> 00:59:19,230 The way we do transportation around the landscape. 872 00:59:19,242 --> 00:59:21,969 These are the complex systems that we depend 873 00:59:21,970 --> 00:59:28,970 on for everyday life and as we go down the arc of oil depletion 874 00:59:28,995 --> 00:59:32,279 these systems are going to not only destabilise 875 00:59:32,291 --> 00:59:34,918 but reinforce each other's instabilities. 876 00:59:34,919 --> 00:59:39,898 If you look around you, everything that you see was either brought there by oil, 877 00:59:39,899 --> 00:59:43,279 is made out of oil, the things we eat are made out of oil 878 00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:46,294 because pesticides are made from oil, herbicides 879 00:59:46,306 --> 00:59:49,079 are made from oil and natural gas makes the 880 00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:54,059 fertiliser and oil makes the tractors and the trucks run. 881 00:59:54,060 --> 00:59:56,329 The last hundred years of oil production is 882 00:59:56,330 --> 00:59:58,837 what enabled the population explosion 883 00:59:58,862 --> 01:00:01,661 and when oil declines the population must decline. 884 01:00:01,686 --> 01:00:07,459 {\an8} By 2050, the supply of oil will have fallen 885 01:00:07,460 --> 01:00:10,364 to support no more than half the present world 886 01:00:10,389 --> 01:00:12,729 population in their present way of life. 887 01:00:12,754 --> 01:00:14,552 I stress present way of life. 888 01:00:14,577 --> 01:00:17,199 If we, for example, ran out of energy and 889 01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:21,439 went into a technological decline, we'd be back down to a low energy level, 890 01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:26,676 then we'd have to drop the population back to a level that could subsist like that. 891 01:00:26,701 --> 01:00:32,779 We're simply going to have to blunder our way forward 892 01:00:32,780 --> 01:00:36,629 to a period of time when there are fewer people on the planet 893 01:00:36,630 --> 01:00:39,729 and in the meantime there are going to be too many for a while. 894 01:00:39,730 --> 01:00:44,648 We've had a big population bubble on top of all the other bubbles we've been blowing 895 01:00:44,649 --> 01:00:49,567 Is it a problem? Yes. Will it solve itself? I'm sorry to say yes it will. 896 01:00:49,592 --> 01:00:55,559 There are four very familiar cures for overpopulation and they ride horses. 897 01:00:55,584 --> 01:01:01,049 Tensions are inevitably going to increase as expectations are not satisfied 898 01:01:01,050 --> 01:01:06,759 and as countries find it increasingly difficult to supply even the basics of life. 899 01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:11,188 We saw a marked example of that in 2008 when global food prices spiked 900 01:01:11,213 --> 01:01:13,313 with the increase in oil prices. 901 01:01:13,338 --> 01:01:16,918 So much damage has been done to the ecosystem 902 01:01:16,919 --> 01:01:23,520 itself that I doubt that everybody's going to be happy. 903 01:01:23,545 --> 01:01:26,519 I doubt that everybody's going to be fed even 904 01:01:26,520 --> 01:01:31,389 as consumption levels fall in the most advanced societies. 905 01:01:31,390 --> 01:01:35,398 If they can figure out how to live differently, you can support more people, 906 01:01:35,399 --> 01:01:42,220 but if you don't figure out how to adapt to this reduction in the critical oil supply 907 01:01:42,221 --> 01:01:46,908 which drives more or less everything, the only conclusion from that is fewer people. 908 01:01:46,909 --> 01:01:50,219 You talk to the average person and they'll say "Oh yeah, there's a solution, 909 01:01:50,220 --> 01:01:54,263 "there's algae and there's cellulose and all these things can replace oil" 910 01:01:54,288 --> 01:01:57,514 when really they can't. 911 01:01:57,539 --> 01:02:00,489 In theory maybe someday solar can, but biomass 912 01:02:00,490 --> 01:02:04,765 never will other than a small contribution. 913 01:02:04,790 --> 01:02:08,235 The 5% of the human race that lives in the USA 914 01:02:08,260 --> 01:02:12,888 uses 25% of the world's oil and about 33% of the world's other natural 915 01:02:12,889 --> 01:02:15,064 resources and industrial products. 916 01:02:15,089 --> 01:02:17,216 That doesn't happen because the rest of the 917 01:02:17,217 --> 01:02:20,900 world doesn't want it. It happens because we take it. 918 01:02:20,901 --> 01:02:24,918 We are the imperial power right now, as Britain was a hundred years ago, 919 01:02:24,919 --> 01:02:27,219 as Spain was 200 years before that and so on. 920 01:02:27,244 --> 01:02:32,563 Perhaps you should switch off your camera for a moment. 921 01:02:32,588 --> 01:02:36,251 Did I tell you about when the CIA came here? Did you know that? 922 01:02:36,894 --> 01:02:41,885 That was a funny thing. 923 01:02:41,910 --> 01:02:47,597 I had a call from the "US Office of Naval Intelligence", London office. 924 01:02:47,622 --> 01:02:51,029 A man said "we're having an important conference 925 01:02:51,030 --> 01:02:58,030 in Washington with the military and we'd like you to make a peak oil presentation." 926 01:02:58,055 --> 01:03:02,685 The American military is out right now asking for alternatives. 927 01:03:02,686 --> 01:03:06,249 They want to know how they're going to fuel their jets in the future. 928 01:03:06,250 --> 01:03:09,358 There was a recent report that forecast there 929 01:03:09,370 --> 01:03:12,489 could be a 10 million barrel a day shortfall 930 01:03:12,490 --> 01:03:18,209 by 2015. That was a report from the US military. 931 01:03:18,210 --> 01:03:21,999 The problem with that kind of shortfall is that militaries cannot run unless they have 932 01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:25,569 substantial supplies of oil. The US military is the largest consumer of 933 01:03:25,570 --> 01:03:30,239 fossil fuels in the world and if they don't get those fuels they'll come grinding to a 934 01:03:30,240 --> 01:03:33,069 halt unless they go out and secure them. 935 01:03:33,070 --> 01:03:41,070 {\an8}If you look at the map of Latin America and identify where the resources are located 936 01:03:41,599 --> 01:03:48,549 in terms of minerals, oil or gas and you cross-map with military stations of 937 01:03:48,550 --> 01:03:56,550 some countries which are not from Latin America, you'll see that there's a match. 938 01:03:56,690 --> 01:04:00,699 How concerned do you think Americans would be about human rights in Iraq 939 01:04:00,700 --> 01:04:03,008 if it had 10% of the world's broccoli? 940 01:04:03,033 --> 01:04:07,131 This is what I mean about America being an imaginary country. 941 01:04:07,156 --> 01:04:09,379 People don't think they live in that kind 942 01:04:09,380 --> 01:04:11,809 of country, they don't think they live in a country where 943 01:04:11,810 --> 01:04:16,014 the oil in their gas tanks is being bought by blood. 944 01:04:16,039 --> 01:04:22,239 Now that's the world we actually live in, but people don't see it that way. 945 01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:24,101 That's a foreign thought to them. 946 01:04:24,126 --> 01:04:27,600 {\an8} I don't really see a point in getting and 947 01:04:27,601 --> 01:04:33,053 {\an8}craving more and more things all the time without ever being satisfied. 948 01:04:33,078 --> 01:04:39,671 It just gives me the impression that that's the will of some hollow, empty creature 949 01:04:39,672 --> 01:04:44,759 that just has this infinite hole in its heart, that just demands more and more and more 950 01:04:44,760 --> 01:04:48,257 trying to fill this unfillable void. 951 01:04:48,282 --> 01:04:50,829 I'm Dr.Jon and this is Nurse Brittney and 952 01:04:50,830 --> 01:04:53,898 we'd like to welcome you to The Heart Attack Grill, 953 01:04:53,899 --> 01:04:56,140 the home of the quadruple bypass. 954 01:04:56,165 --> 01:05:00,039 After the various layers of cheese and onions 955 01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:05,239 and tomatoes and American beef, and the entire thing is lard-dipped, 956 01:05:05,240 --> 01:05:07,433 is a solid two pounds of meat. 957 01:05:07,458 --> 01:05:13,715 ♪ There is a creature that has to feed ♪ 958 01:05:13,740 --> 01:05:20,042 ♪ It stops at nothing to fill its need ♪ 959 01:05:20,067 --> 01:05:23,681 Now, if you're over 350 lbs., you're gonna love it, 960 01:05:23,706 --> 01:05:27,905 because we've got a special surprise for anyone like that. 961 01:05:34,065 --> 01:05:38,787 ♪ The creature tells of evil gnomes ♪ 962 01:05:40,962 --> 01:05:45,318 ♪ Coming to destroy our homes ♪ 963 01:05:47,586 --> 01:05:52,403 ♪ Provided with so much distraction ♪ 964 01:05:54,744 --> 01:05:59,515 ♪ The people can't be moved to action ♪ 965 01:06:01,686 --> 01:06:06,534 ♪ And when the people are all dead... ♪ 966 01:06:08,325 --> 01:06:12,806 ♪ The parasite cannot survive ♪ 967 01:06:15,186 --> 01:06:20,686 ♪ Unless its host remains alive ♪ 968 01:06:35,466 --> 01:06:40,766 ♪ It has amassed such awesome wealth ♪ 969 01:06:42,266 --> 01:06:46,840 ♪ Maybe it can eat itself. ♪ 970 01:06:48,165 --> 01:06:51,409 One of the most unusual examples of changing 971 01:06:51,410 --> 01:06:55,366 balance in a natural community occurs in Scandinavia. 972 01:06:55,391 --> 01:07:02,040 Here, a species of rodent called "lemmings" inhabits the bleak tundra. 973 01:07:03,659 --> 01:07:07,717 A lemming is a small animal that reproduces very quickly. 974 01:07:07,742 --> 01:07:14,019 Lemmings breed from spring to fall, and, in favourable years, even in winter. 975 01:07:14,020 --> 01:07:19,079 {\an8}Lemmings have a very strange population control system, 976 01:07:19,080 --> 01:07:24,499 I hope not like ours, but what happens with lemmings is 977 01:07:24,500 --> 01:07:31,049 they breed and they breed and they keep going nicely and then they have a lemming year 978 01:07:31,074 --> 01:07:35,279 and when a lemming year comes, it's just an accident of the food supply 979 01:07:35,280 --> 01:07:41,019 and suddenly, they overpopulate to a point where, in the wild, 980 01:07:41,020 --> 01:07:45,339 they're just like Calhoun's rats in his experiment where he overcrowded them. 981 01:07:45,340 --> 01:07:52,056 As more and more individuals are born, the food and water supply begins to diminish. 982 01:07:52,081 --> 01:07:59,470 Every three to four years, the populations in some localities grow to great densities. 983 01:07:59,634 --> 01:08:03,019 And then something amazing starts to happen... 984 01:08:03,031 --> 01:08:06,309 The myth of them jumping over a cliff is simply 985 01:08:06,310 --> 01:08:09,658 a symbolic way of describing it but what happens, if you look at these lemmings 986 01:08:09,659 --> 01:08:15,503 as I have, is they become completely stressed out of their minds 987 01:08:15,528 --> 01:08:21,348 they're dashing here and there, they succumb 988 01:08:21,349 --> 01:08:25,819 to disease, the whole society breaks down because they've been too successful. 989 01:08:25,820 --> 01:08:31,679 Individuals begin to migrate away from centres of dense population. 990 01:08:31,680 --> 01:08:37,408 They group together and move in detectable waves across the countryside. 991 01:08:37,409 --> 01:08:42,268 Wherever barriers block their passage, they tend to crowd in rising numbers, 992 01:08:42,269 --> 01:08:46,648 until a kind of panic reaction drives them over the obstacles. 993 01:08:46,649 --> 01:08:52,449 I actually imported some, in a lemming year, to study them. 994 01:08:52,450 --> 01:08:58,168 They were animals in total disharmony, is the only word I can use. 995 01:08:58,169 --> 01:09:03,848 I've studied lots of species of rodents and when I saw these lemmings in a lemming year 996 01:09:03,849 --> 01:09:07,367 it was like looking at an animal in crisis. 997 01:09:07,379 --> 01:09:10,608 Its movements, its behaviour, everything about 998 01:09:10,609 --> 01:09:18,324 it was agitated, distressed, and what had happened was that the overpopulation 999 01:09:18,325 --> 01:09:22,568 that had destroyed the society had increased the level of stress to the point 1000 01:09:22,569 --> 01:09:26,418 that you see in a suicide in the slums of a city 1001 01:09:26,419 --> 01:09:29,667 and that's what I was seeing in these lemmings. 1002 01:09:29,679 --> 01:09:32,938 Once again they begin swimming. They act under 1003 01:09:32,939 --> 01:09:37,608 the same impulse that forced them to cross smaller bodies of water. 1004 01:09:37,609 --> 01:09:42,843 Swimming until exhausted, all of them drown. 1005 01:09:42,868 --> 01:09:45,795 They can't take the stress the way humans 1006 01:09:45,820 --> 01:09:48,833 are able to. We're brilliant at taking stress. 1007 01:09:48,858 --> 01:09:51,864 They can't take it and their whole society collapses 1008 01:09:51,889 --> 01:09:54,120 and then they go back to the old level again. 1009 01:09:54,145 --> 01:09:57,161 Something in the environment stimulates this activity. 1010 01:09:58,419 --> 01:10:01,208 If we were to plot the growth and decline 1011 01:10:01,209 --> 01:10:06,028 in population of the lemmings, we would see that as several years go by, 1012 01:10:06,029 --> 01:10:09,139 the population growth curve would look like this 1013 01:10:09,140 --> 01:10:13,114 with a rapid drop-off occurring around the fourth year. 1014 01:10:13,489 --> 01:10:17,682 This growth curve is a classic example of a population cycle 1015 01:10:17,707 --> 01:10:21,456 in the ever-fluctuating balance of nature. 1016 01:10:22,143 --> 01:10:24,989 The problem for human beings is that 1017 01:10:24,990 --> 01:10:27,814 if we're not careful, we'll have a lemming year. 1018 01:10:27,839 --> 01:10:31,023 {\an8}By and large, the tendency for the entire species 1019 01:10:31,048 --> 01:10:33,304 is to really be focused on the short term problems. 1020 01:10:33,329 --> 01:10:39,764 People, for example, think about the eventual oil shortage. 1021 01:10:39,789 --> 01:10:41,857 We don't know exactly when it's going to happen 1022 01:10:41,882 --> 01:10:45,918 but it's clear that oil is a finite resource, and lots of people are worried about that, 1023 01:10:45,919 --> 01:10:48,608 but at the end of the day they still might get into their SUVs, 1024 01:10:48,609 --> 01:10:53,418 they might drive back and forth to their country houses if they have one or whatever 1025 01:10:53,419 --> 01:10:57,288 and so people can have these long term views but then the short term decision is 1026 01:10:57,289 --> 01:11:01,458 "what should I do this weekend?" and well, it would be fun to get into the 1027 01:11:01,459 --> 01:11:03,062 SUV and drive off to the mountains. 1028 01:11:03,087 --> 01:11:06,329 In the late 1970s and early 1980s, everyone 1029 01:11:06,330 --> 01:11:09,866 assumed that the energy crisis was just going to keep on going, 1030 01:11:09,891 --> 01:11:14,358 that we had entered the age of scarcity, that 1031 01:11:14,370 --> 01:11:18,911 it was going to be solar energy and economic 1032 01:11:18,936 --> 01:11:23,310 contraction and getting by with less from then on. 1033 01:11:24,100 --> 01:11:28,858 Everybody was blind-sided by what actually happened because nobody thought that 1034 01:11:28,859 --> 01:11:33,335 the governments of the industrial world would be stupid enough 1035 01:11:33,360 --> 01:11:38,007 to take the last big stocks of petroleum they had, 1036 01:11:38,032 --> 01:11:40,919 the North Slope of Alaska, the North Sea, 1037 01:11:40,944 --> 01:11:43,600 and pump them like there was no tomorrow. 1038 01:11:43,601 --> 01:11:50,398 That's what ended the energy crisis in the 1970s. They basically turned on the stops, 1039 01:11:50,399 --> 01:11:57,577 pumped them dry, to get a couple of decades of political success, 1040 01:11:58,019 --> 01:12:00,425 to make everybody happy for that short term. 1041 01:12:00,437 --> 01:12:03,018 By doing so, they flushed our chance of having 1042 01:12:03,019 --> 01:12:06,750 any kind of less-than-traumatic transition. 1043 01:12:06,775 --> 01:12:11,671 {\an8}I gave public lectures and printed papers in the 1970s saying 1044 01:12:11,720 --> 01:12:14,449 the best estimate of when world oil production would peak 1045 01:12:14,450 --> 01:12:19,768 was about 2010, plus or minus ten years. I remember saying that fortunately that gave 1046 01:12:19,769 --> 01:12:25,668 us 30 or 40 years to plan a smooth transition out of the age of cheap and unlimited oil 1047 01:12:25,669 --> 01:12:29,079 towards an age when oil would be limited and more expensive. 1048 01:12:29,080 --> 01:12:35,248 I've got a concise summary here of how we've used the 40 years to prepare for the age of 1049 01:12:35,249 --> 01:12:36,451 limited and expensive oil. 1050 01:12:36,476 --> 01:12:38,648 Perhaps the most chilling conclusion from 1051 01:12:38,649 --> 01:12:44,508 his mouse city studies, says Dr Calhoun, is that once this change in social behaviour 1052 01:12:44,509 --> 01:12:47,549 occurs, it apparently cannot be reversed. 1053 01:12:47,574 --> 01:12:51,899 It's this fact of apparent irreversible phase shifts 1054 01:12:51,924 --> 01:12:58,179 that give some of us a particular concern over the fate of the human situation. 1055 01:12:58,180 --> 01:13:02,378 A state change happens. Calhoun calls this a behavioural sink. 1056 01:13:02,379 --> 01:13:06,958 Even if you take one of those rats out and put it into a more benign environment, 1057 01:13:06,959 --> 01:13:09,463 it never exhibits normal behaviour again. 1058 01:13:09,488 --> 01:13:11,949 {\an8}Almost all physical environmental systems 1059 01:13:11,950 --> 01:13:16,498 {\an8}have that kind of tipping point, the point where what had been quite stable 1060 01:13:16,499 --> 01:13:18,651 suddenly changes state, dramatically. 1061 01:13:18,676 --> 01:13:21,018 There seems to be something about the human 1062 01:13:21,019 --> 01:13:26,018 species, a natural predisposition to continue to expand, 1063 01:13:26,019 --> 01:13:32,179 a natural tendency to discount the future, not to pay much attention to warnings that 1064 01:13:32,180 --> 01:13:33,716 things are going awry. 1065 01:13:33,741 --> 01:13:35,929 The most obvious examples are the destruction 1066 01:13:35,930 --> 01:13:39,608 of human societies like Easter Island. They must have been aware that things were 1067 01:13:39,609 --> 01:13:47,588 going downhill very rapidly but they didn't do anything about it. 1068 01:13:47,589 --> 01:13:49,589 The same thing appears to be happening here. 1069 01:13:49,592 --> 01:13:53,659 If industrial civilisation is on its downslope, 1070 01:13:53,660 --> 01:13:56,674 then everything that most people in the industrial 1071 01:13:56,686 --> 01:14:01,058 world have staked their futures on is dust in the wind. 1072 01:14:01,535 --> 01:14:03,538 Everything that they've hoped, everything 1073 01:14:03,539 --> 01:14:05,970 they've dreamed, everything they've planned... 1074 01:14:05,982 --> 01:14:09,449 their retirement is gone. Their investments will be worthless. 1075 01:14:09,667 --> 01:14:12,528 Their goals for the future, their hopes for 1076 01:14:12,529 --> 01:14:15,527 their children are dust and ashes. 1077 01:14:15,552 --> 01:14:21,588 {\an8}The situation we face is pretty sad. We kind of blew it. 1078 01:14:21,613 --> 01:14:27,119 It seems to be in the nature of human beings 1079 01:14:27,120 --> 01:14:30,267 to carry everything a bit too far 1080 01:14:30,292 --> 01:14:38,274 and then to have to reset the operations of daily life. 1081 01:14:38,462 --> 01:14:40,949 We're talking about the death of a civilisation, 1082 01:14:40,950 --> 01:14:46,890 we're talking about the death of a dream, a vision of human possibility, of what humans are, 1083 01:14:46,915 --> 01:14:49,640 what they can hope for, and we're talking about the death of a lot 1084 01:14:49,665 --> 01:14:55,187 of hopes, and a lot of plans, a lot of securities 1085 01:14:55,212 --> 01:14:57,294 both in the financial sense and more broadly, 1086 01:14:57,295 --> 01:15:02,134 and ultimately, a lot of people. 1087 01:15:02,159 --> 01:15:04,199 Even, I think, towards the end of his life, 1088 01:15:04,200 --> 01:15:08,048 Calhoun was concerned that that was the direction we were heading in. 1089 01:15:08,073 --> 01:15:14,516 Having seen how his rats behaved, he was concerned that similar things may happen to us. 1090 01:15:14,602 --> 01:15:21,148 We see worldwide the breaking down of social roles, 1091 01:15:21,149 --> 01:15:25,359 the increase in contact both as a result of the breakdown of social roles and because 1092 01:15:25,360 --> 01:15:31,688 there are too many people, that this might lead to an over-riding of 1093 01:15:31,689 --> 01:15:36,852 our controls, of our total culture, and we'd be set into a process which would 1094 01:15:36,853 --> 01:15:43,179 either fix us rigidly forever into some sort of global tribalism 1095 01:15:43,180 --> 01:15:51,180 without any adaptation to change or there would result perhaps eventually some 1096 01:15:52,060 --> 01:15:55,978 decline very much like we've seen here. 1097 01:15:58,129 --> 01:16:00,318 MUSIC PLAYS 1098 01:16:02,182 --> 01:16:05,607 ♪ Man is now able to fly through the air like a bird ♪ 1099 01:16:05,608 --> 01:16:09,204 ♪ He is able to swim beneath the sea like a fish ♪ 1100 01:16:09,229 --> 01:16:12,623 ♪ He is able to burrow beneath the ground like a mole ♪ 1101 01:16:12,624 --> 01:16:17,159 ♪ Now if only he would walk on earth like a man ♪ 1102 01:16:17,160 --> 01:16:20,582 ♪ This would be paradise ♪ 1103 01:16:58,932 --> 01:17:03,433 ♪ Man is now able to fly through the air like a bird ♪ 1104 01:17:04,932 --> 01:17:08,232 ♪ He is able to swim beneath the sea like a fish ♪ 1105 01:17:10,332 --> 01:17:14,532 ♪ He is able to burrow beneath the ground like a mole ♪ 1106 01:17:15,132 --> 01:17:19,014 ♪ Now if only he would walk on earth like a man ♪ 1107 01:17:19,015 --> 01:17:22,849 ♪ This would be paradise ♪ 1108 01:17:34,849 --> 01:17:39,080 ♪ Now if only he would walk on earth like a man ♪ 1109 01:17:43,339 --> 01:17:46,064 There was no way that the stresses that constant 1110 01:17:46,065 --> 01:17:52,283 interaction placed on people and on rats was sustainable, 1111 01:17:52,308 --> 01:17:55,174 but it was also the case that you were stuck with this situation. 1112 01:17:55,199 --> 01:17:56,790 How do you get yourself out of it? 1113 01:17:56,815 --> 01:18:00,713 We like to say that we're revolutionists here, 1114 01:18:00,738 --> 01:18:05,798 but a particular kind of revolutionist which you now spell differently. 1115 01:18:05,799 --> 01:18:12,799 Now, we all know what this symbol is, this is "prescription". 1116 01:18:14,419 --> 01:18:17,035 So we're concerned with the prescription for 1117 01:18:17,047 --> 01:18:19,913 evolution, the design of the future, the design 1118 01:18:19,914 --> 01:18:22,205 of evolution, so we're revolutionists. 1119 01:18:22,230 --> 01:18:27,180 It's easy to look at Calhoun's work and simply see him as 1120 01:18:27,205 --> 01:18:33,252 a demon of rodents, that he's just someone who's out there to make their lives bad, 1121 01:18:33,277 --> 01:18:41,277 that he's some kind of rodent sadist. Calhoun wasn't simply interested in generating 1122 01:18:41,301 --> 01:18:43,214 aberrant behaviours in rodents. 1123 01:18:43,239 --> 01:18:49,219 He wasn't trying to upset rats and mice. That wasn't his aim. 1124 01:18:49,244 --> 01:18:52,838 Later on he began conducting experiments to 1125 01:18:52,839 --> 01:18:58,689 see "we know how to generate these pyscho-pathological behaviours. 1126 01:18:58,791 --> 01:19:03,579 What can we do by reversing that? Or... 1127 01:19:03,884 --> 01:19:08,970 What changes can we make in the rats' environment which can generate 1128 01:19:09,024 --> 01:19:11,025 more positive behaviours?" 1129 01:19:11,050 --> 01:19:13,059 One of the things he began doing was designing 1130 01:19:13,060 --> 01:19:15,556 enclosures which would encourage cooperation. 1131 01:19:15,626 --> 01:19:23,626 {\an8}He designed a food hopper that required cooperation, 1132 01:19:23,679 --> 01:19:26,303 required that the rats learn to cooperate. 1133 01:19:26,328 --> 01:19:29,099 Rather than just individual foraging, one 1134 01:19:29,100 --> 01:19:34,537 of them had to come and stand on the pedal while the other one got the food or drink. 1135 01:19:34,562 --> 01:19:37,850 Calhoun realizes there's something remarkable happening here. 1136 01:19:37,875 --> 01:19:43,869 Rather than see each other as potential combatants, the rats began to see each other as 1137 01:19:43,870 --> 01:19:47,488 a necessary means of obtaining their own nutrition. 1138 01:19:47,500 --> 01:19:50,559 So this way he begins to train the rats to 1139 01:19:50,560 --> 01:19:56,978 get on with one another effectively. He builds an environment where rather than 1140 01:19:56,979 --> 01:20:01,309 being constant conflict, the rats are in constant cooperation. 1141 01:20:01,310 --> 01:20:07,858 My recollection of what happened with the Norway rats is that they developed a way of 1142 01:20:07,859 --> 01:20:10,958 dealing with it that allowed their society to continue and 1143 01:20:10,959 --> 01:20:14,498 to grow, and allowed them to continue to interact with each other 1144 01:20:14,499 --> 01:20:15,387 and to be rats. 1145 01:20:15,412 --> 01:20:18,369 If we can focus on just the good environment, 1146 01:20:18,370 --> 01:20:21,699 the biological environment, the physical environment, 1147 01:20:21,724 --> 01:20:25,704 we will miss a great deal of what man is or 1148 01:20:25,729 --> 01:20:30,317 could be, with a concern for increasing human potentiality, 1149 01:20:30,318 --> 01:20:38,318 and again, we like to say, we like to put "mental", that's the human capacity, 1150 01:20:39,027 --> 01:20:43,857 back in "environmental." 1151 01:20:46,269 --> 01:20:49,564 Trying to change people is much, much too hard. 1152 01:20:49,589 --> 01:20:52,683 Change the world instead. It's easier. 1153 01:20:52,708 --> 01:20:55,699 You just change the environment in which we all operate 1154 01:20:55,724 --> 01:20:58,550 and we'll happily do different things. 1155 01:20:58,575 --> 01:21:04,108 As prosperity increases, what we've seen worldwide is in general, fertility rates fall. 1156 01:21:04,109 --> 01:21:07,608 So the economists' argument is that if we allow economies to grow 1157 01:21:07,609 --> 01:21:12,668 eventually people will decide that they don't want as many children. 1158 01:21:12,669 --> 01:21:14,977 I think broadly speaking that's probably true, 1159 01:21:14,989 --> 01:21:16,825 we've seen it happen over the last 100 years 1160 01:21:16,850 --> 01:21:18,630 pretty much everywhere around the world. 1161 01:21:18,655 --> 01:21:23,829 Calhoun died in 1995, so I don't know if he 1162 01:21:23,830 --> 01:21:29,219 knew of that argument. I think he would approve of the idea that 1163 01:21:29,220 --> 01:21:36,489 if you make countries richer they lower their birth rates spontaneously. 1164 01:21:36,514 --> 01:21:43,749 It's a nice solution in two ways: One, people have better conditions; two, the 1165 01:21:43,774 --> 01:21:48,254 birth rate lowers so that conditions don't become even more strained. 1166 01:21:48,442 --> 01:21:51,262 Now that's a pretty difficult experiment to run. 1167 01:21:51,418 --> 01:21:55,580 It requires making the developing world wealthy. 1168 01:21:55,581 --> 01:22:00,253 If you can solve that, pretty much everything else is going to fall into place. 1169 01:22:00,278 --> 01:22:03,527 {\an8}Politicians have had it easy for decades, 1170 01:22:03,552 --> 01:22:06,018 especially when there were abundant natural resources 1171 01:22:06,019 --> 01:22:10,478 because they could just talk about 'a rising tide lifts all boats.' 1172 01:22:10,503 --> 01:22:12,518 As long as we have economic growth, you don't 1173 01:22:12,519 --> 01:22:16,429 have to worry about a fair distribution of wealth. 1174 01:22:16,430 --> 01:22:20,964 So, for example, in North America, particularly in the last forty years, 1175 01:22:20,989 --> 01:22:26,508 by deliberate political choice, we've emphasized the individual, selfish behaviour... 1176 01:22:26,509 --> 01:22:30,838 I've seen in a dozen newspaper articles how selfishness makes the world go around 1177 01:22:30,839 --> 01:22:34,559 and everybody else benefits if you're as selfish as possible, and so on. 1178 01:22:34,560 --> 01:22:37,042 And the argument is that if we don't consume, 1179 01:22:37,067 --> 01:22:41,438 then the attempts by people in poorer countries, 1180 01:22:41,439 --> 01:22:43,901 Bangladesh, for example, to get out of poverty 1181 01:22:43,926 --> 01:22:48,081 by building a textile industry, is disrupted. 1182 01:22:48,106 --> 01:22:56,106 That is indeed the problem and I think...I don't think there is an easy answer to this. 1183 01:22:58,173 --> 01:23:04,498 The fact is, we cannot continue to support the attempts by Bangladesh to get its people 1184 01:23:04,499 --> 01:23:06,831 out of poverty by setting up a textile industry. 1185 01:23:06,856 --> 01:23:09,824 I think something like 90% of the exports of Bangladesh 1186 01:23:09,836 --> 01:23:12,119 are processed cotton in one form or another, 1187 01:23:12,120 --> 01:23:14,453 so if you and I stop buying as many t-shirts, 1188 01:23:14,465 --> 01:23:16,809 it does affect the ability of people in that 1189 01:23:16,810 --> 01:23:18,844 country to feed themselves. 1190 01:23:18,869 --> 01:23:23,679 {\an8}Sometimes I think that this concern about 1191 01:23:23,680 --> 01:23:30,228 the environment, besides being real, it's also like a way to continue a belief 1192 01:23:30,229 --> 01:23:34,619 that all people in the world will not live at the same level. 1193 01:23:34,620 --> 01:23:37,788 That was always the belief in West Europe about other people. 1194 01:23:37,789 --> 01:23:44,732 First, we said they are racially subordinate, because they are genetically stupid. 1195 01:23:44,757 --> 01:23:48,458 They cannot do it. And then when that was disproved, they said 1196 01:23:48,459 --> 01:23:53,398 "oh, no it's culture, you know... they are Hindus, they pray, or they are Buddhist, 1197 01:23:53,399 --> 01:23:59,639 so they will never make it." And now we say "Okay, okay they are genetically 1198 01:23:59,640 --> 01:24:02,187 capable, and their religions can be compatible 1199 01:24:02,199 --> 01:24:06,193 with a good life, but the environment doesn't allow it." 1200 01:24:06,560 --> 01:24:12,758 There's always something. This thing with the environment is real. 1201 01:24:13,724 --> 01:24:18,048 But people aren't going to exercise the option of dying today 1202 01:24:18,049 --> 01:24:24,254 for the world to be better tomorrow. No one is going to do that. 1203 01:24:25,501 --> 01:24:33,278 The environment is just one problem which we're focused on now, and this may be a real 1204 01:24:33,279 --> 01:24:38,153 trap, because we only look at the physical-biological 1205 01:24:38,154 --> 01:24:44,568 aspects of our surroundings, where if we focused instead on what is a much 1206 01:24:44,569 --> 01:24:47,203 more essential comprehensive problem 1207 01:24:47,228 --> 01:24:51,092 and that is evolution and the designing of evolution. 1208 01:24:51,117 --> 01:24:53,219 Dr. Calhoun, I want to give you the opportunity 1209 01:24:53,220 --> 01:24:54,883 to go back to something we touched on earlier 1210 01:24:54,895 --> 01:24:56,568 and that was, you said 'standing room only', 1211 01:24:56,569 --> 01:24:58,131 and you said you wanted to come back to it. 1212 01:24:58,156 --> 01:25:01,449 When certain tolerable limits are reached, 1213 01:25:01,450 --> 01:25:04,804 this will establish the necessity for controls. 1214 01:25:04,816 --> 01:25:08,038 Now among animals, these controls are fairly 1215 01:25:08,039 --> 01:25:12,344 automatic, they go through the adrenal and pituitary systems. 1216 01:25:12,406 --> 01:25:20,406 If a pregnant female house mouse smells the odour of a strange mouse, a stranger, 1217 01:25:24,678 --> 01:25:29,182 she re-absorbs her embryos. 1218 01:25:29,207 --> 01:25:33,534 The embryos that are inside her go into reverse. They disappear. 1219 01:25:33,559 --> 01:25:39,448 It's an abortion of an extraordinarily natural kind. 1220 01:25:39,473 --> 01:25:41,512 The rat populations would level off. 1221 01:25:41,537 --> 01:25:45,119 The cities didn't. The cities seemed to get more and more dense. 1222 01:25:45,120 --> 01:25:49,809 Humanity, unlike the rats, didn't seem to have this controlling capacity. 1223 01:25:49,810 --> 01:25:57,310 Most animals have some sort of breeding control system. Why haven't we got one? 1224 01:25:57,335 --> 01:26:02,449 That's the big question. Because so far, we haven't evolved one. 1225 01:26:02,450 --> 01:26:07,159 If you start a population off crowded, individuals don't develop any identity, 1226 01:26:07,184 --> 01:26:14,889 they don't develop any space bubble, so you don't get aggression, you don't get anxiety 1227 01:26:14,914 --> 01:26:20,543 so nothing interrupts reproduction and this is a trap that we could get into. 1228 01:26:20,568 --> 01:26:24,777 If we have sufficient intelligence, then that 1229 01:26:24,789 --> 01:26:30,253 alone should be enough for us to control our population. 1230 01:26:30,278 --> 01:26:35,038 Any programmes against contraceptive measures 1231 01:26:35,039 --> 01:26:42,204 are crimes against humanity. And I can't understand how anyone, religious 1232 01:26:42,229 --> 01:26:49,389 leaders and so on, seriously promotes anti-contraception policies. 1233 01:26:49,390 --> 01:26:51,232 That's a crime against humanity. 1234 01:26:51,257 --> 01:26:53,778 More and more, we seem to see that the Catholic 1235 01:26:53,779 --> 01:26:57,809 Church in particular is holding back, trying to make sure that 1236 01:26:57,810 --> 01:27:00,906 fertility rates stay high in these other countries 1237 01:27:00,918 --> 01:27:03,528 and that seems to me to be utterly wicked 1238 01:27:03,529 --> 01:27:07,768 and completely at variance with the moral principles that the church 1239 01:27:07,769 --> 01:27:09,358 would otherwise say it had. 1240 01:27:09,383 --> 01:27:12,719 {\an8}Controlling women's sexuality and fertility 1241 01:27:12,720 --> 01:27:19,518 {\an8}has always been a big project of men who are in power, and we can even see now 1242 01:27:19,519 --> 01:27:22,378 with what happens that the body of woman is still 1243 01:27:22,379 --> 01:27:24,666 a battlefield and that's what we are speaking to. 1244 01:27:24,691 --> 01:27:28,898 {\an8}My personal belief is that everybody should enjoy sex. 1245 01:27:28,899 --> 01:27:31,018 You just have to have the capacity to enjoy sex 1246 01:27:31,043 --> 01:27:35,945 without necessarily having to reproduce if you don't want to. 1247 01:27:35,970 --> 01:27:38,358 In some countries still now you cannot ask 1248 01:27:38,359 --> 01:27:41,648 for family planning if your husband doesn't write you a small 1249 01:27:41,649 --> 01:27:46,159 note saying that he agrees, or you have to succumb to the pressure of 1250 01:27:46,160 --> 01:27:50,367 your mother-in-law who would like more grandchildren, 1251 01:27:50,392 --> 01:27:54,160 so it's all about other's desires, rather 1252 01:27:54,174 --> 01:27:55,707 than women themselves. 1253 01:27:55,732 --> 01:27:58,818 It's not easy to control fertility if you 1254 01:27:58,819 --> 01:28:01,816 are a poor woman in a village 1255 01:28:01,841 --> 01:28:05,268 with a huge desire to do it and sometimes 1256 01:28:05,269 --> 01:28:08,369 what happens is that When they find themselves with an unwanted 1257 01:28:08,370 --> 01:28:11,752 pregnancy, they go out of their way to terminate 1258 01:28:11,764 --> 01:28:18,939 with huge consequences for their health, sometimes even death, as a result of it. 1259 01:28:18,964 --> 01:28:21,878 If a woman cannot decide about her own sexuality, 1260 01:28:21,879 --> 01:28:26,509 her own reproduction, where do we expect her to exercise her own human rights? 1261 01:28:26,534 --> 01:28:33,251 It takes three measures to get population growth down: 1262 01:28:33,276 --> 01:28:36,258 First is empowerment of women 1263 01:28:36,259 --> 01:28:38,777 Second is empowerment of women. 1264 01:28:38,802 --> 01:28:41,958 Third is empowerment of women 1265 01:28:41,959 --> 01:28:47,008 {\an8}And this empowerment of women is, like, 'Oh, well there you go then.' 1266 01:28:47,033 --> 01:28:53,079 {\an8}The reason I talk about women needing to take control of contraception instead of men 1267 01:28:53,080 --> 01:28:56,679 is that women have a greater interest in having fewer children. 1268 01:28:56,680 --> 01:29:00,238 In some people's minds it means the disempowerment of men, you see. 1269 01:29:00,239 --> 01:29:03,398 {\an8}There's no way we can test future population growth 1270 01:29:03,399 --> 01:29:08,639 {\an8}so it just makes sense to find ways to slow population growth 1271 01:29:08,640 --> 01:29:14,163 that are consistent with our values and I argue that trying to help women not to have 1272 01:29:14,164 --> 01:29:18,521 unintended pregnancies is pretty consistent with, I think, just about everybody's values. 1273 01:29:18,662 --> 01:29:23,208 The more human beings the better, as long 1274 01:29:23,209 --> 01:29:28,137 as they're not all alive at the same time. 1275 01:29:28,162 --> 01:29:32,010 You don't want everybody alive at the same time. 1276 01:29:32,291 --> 01:29:37,033 Why? Because if too many people are alive at the same time, 1277 01:29:37,127 --> 01:29:41,798 you overwhelm life support capacity and diminish it. 1278 01:29:41,823 --> 01:29:43,190 What does that mean? 1279 01:29:43,215 --> 01:29:46,737 That means fewer people are going to be alive in the future. 1280 01:29:46,762 --> 01:29:49,768 We are a high quality species, we are not a high quantity species, 1281 01:29:49,769 --> 01:29:54,278 we shouldn't be, we should be a high quality species, and we should actually 1282 01:29:54,279 --> 01:29:58,988 think in terms of increasing the quality of life for everybody 1283 01:29:58,989 --> 01:30:01,478 rather than the quantity of people alive on the planet. 1284 01:30:01,479 --> 01:30:04,259 We need a better establishment to allow 1285 01:30:04,271 --> 01:30:08,278 interrelationships to protect us from too many contacts 1286 01:30:08,279 --> 01:30:12,999 but to allow us for those contacts which we do engage in to be more meaningful 1287 01:30:13,024 --> 01:30:20,149 for our own lives and more meaningful to others in a compassionate sense of each of us 1288 01:30:20,180 --> 01:30:26,168 being involved in helping the other to fulfil his role, we'll have many more roles, 1289 01:30:26,169 --> 01:30:32,018 and this is where the notion of compassion comes in is each of us helping others 1290 01:30:32,019 --> 01:30:36,082 to fulfil their programmes for development. 1291 01:30:36,261 --> 01:30:38,898 I think he calls it a compassionate revolution. 1292 01:30:38,899 --> 01:30:44,748 He has this sense that if people begin to get on better with one another 1293 01:30:44,749 --> 01:30:49,668 that'll be the first step towards dealing with these problems of elevated density. 1294 01:30:49,669 --> 01:30:52,515 When enough people want change badly enough, 1295 01:30:52,527 --> 01:30:56,776 it happens regardless of how strong the forces arranged against them. 1296 01:30:56,801 --> 01:30:59,869 We have to make the wise and right decisions 1297 01:30:59,870 --> 01:31:04,221 as mankind, and we ain't doing it now, but we have the resources. 1298 01:31:04,246 --> 01:31:07,059 We have enough sunshine, we have enough money, 1299 01:31:07,060 --> 01:31:11,340 we have enough scientific capacity, we can do it. 1300 01:31:11,365 --> 01:31:15,449 You watch a movie, a documentary, you are better informed, but the question is: 1301 01:31:15,450 --> 01:31:20,168 does that stay close enough to the forefront of your thinking to act on it? 1302 01:31:20,169 --> 01:31:23,889 People learn new information all the time, there's some evidence that human beings are 1303 01:31:23,890 --> 01:31:27,588 actually becoming smarter and better informed than they used to be that 1304 01:31:27,589 --> 01:31:33,148 the average person today knows much more than the average person 300 years ago 1305 01:31:33,149 --> 01:31:36,798 there's a much bigger fund of general knowledge, people are generally better informed 1306 01:31:36,799 --> 01:31:39,061 partly because of the internet, but that doesn't 1307 01:31:39,073 --> 01:31:41,298 necessarily mean that we act on that knowledge 1308 01:31:41,299 --> 01:31:43,645 so, we have this really large body of background 1309 01:31:43,657 --> 01:31:45,719 knowledge, but you still have to set your 1310 01:31:45,720 --> 01:31:49,538 priorities about what you're going to do and the structure 1311 01:31:49,539 --> 01:31:52,188 of the brain is that those priorities start with food and 1312 01:31:52,189 --> 01:31:55,559 move up to sex and it's going to be really hard to get people to worry about things 1313 01:31:55,560 --> 01:31:57,050 like the fate of mankind. 1314 01:31:57,075 --> 01:32:02,127 {\an8}Most people who watch this film have some 1315 01:32:02,152 --> 01:32:06,798 interest in some mutual fund, or retirement fund, 1316 01:32:06,799 --> 01:32:12,799 or some kind of financial fund, presumably managed for their benefit. 1317 01:32:12,824 --> 01:32:19,469 That fund owns assets around the world, but you have no idea what assets you own, 1318 01:32:19,470 --> 01:32:24,389 you don't know what people are involved, you don't know how those people are treated. 1319 01:32:24,390 --> 01:32:31,063 The only relationship you have to those assets is what is the financial return. 1320 01:32:31,064 --> 01:32:37,834 So this becomes, in a sense, the ultimate perversion of society so even those of us 1321 01:32:37,859 --> 01:32:44,179 who are owners have no real idea of what we own or what the implications are. 1322 01:32:44,226 --> 01:32:49,599 We have therefore, to run our lives, to take into account our impact on other people 1323 01:32:49,600 --> 01:32:56,228 whether that be our next door neighbour or the cotton farmer in central Asia. 1324 01:32:56,229 --> 01:32:58,295 That means that we need to take responsibility; 1325 01:32:58,307 --> 01:33:00,209 capitalism says all we need to do is worry 1326 01:33:00,210 --> 01:33:03,537 about having enough money to buy the things that we want. 1327 01:33:03,562 --> 01:33:06,409 No. We have moral obligations to live 1328 01:33:06,421 --> 01:33:09,619 our lives to benefit the rest of humanity, 1329 01:33:09,620 --> 01:33:11,447 not just ourselves financially. 1330 01:33:11,472 --> 01:33:14,508 So, for the time being we have this one planet, 1331 01:33:14,509 --> 01:33:18,579 and we have this, you name it, doesn't make a lot of difference, we have 1332 01:33:18,580 --> 01:33:23,609 to divide what's there by 7 billion this year, by 8 billion, 1333 01:33:23,634 --> 01:33:26,920 by 9 billion middle of the century. 1334 01:33:26,945 --> 01:33:31,143 So you get your share of the planet which 1335 01:33:31,229 --> 01:33:35,424 is plus or minus one and a half global hectares; 1336 01:33:35,783 --> 01:33:39,625 so my challenge is, for my family, for my country, 1337 01:33:39,650 --> 01:33:45,068 how can we design our economies, our societies, our lifestyle, so that we have 1338 01:33:45,069 --> 01:33:51,398 a happy, decent, funny, fulfilling life within using 1339 01:33:51,399 --> 01:33:53,307 my fair share of the planet. 1340 01:33:53,332 --> 01:33:56,623 The future is not somewhere we're going, it's something we're creating. 1341 01:33:56,648 --> 01:34:00,297 So you shouldn't ask the experts to tell you what the future will be 1342 01:34:00,322 --> 01:34:03,352 like, you should ask yourself 'What do you want the future to be?' 1343 01:34:03,377 --> 01:34:06,528 The entire future of evolution depends on 1344 01:34:06,529 --> 01:34:12,422 the next 15 years, it's the people here now, who are involved now. 1345 01:34:12,447 --> 01:34:15,768 He had a positive message about the future 1346 01:34:15,769 --> 01:34:18,988 of humanity being something that was in our hands 1347 01:34:18,989 --> 01:34:22,934 and that we ought to steer, rather than let it 1348 01:34:22,946 --> 01:34:27,809 run adrift in the way that the rat populations had. 1349 01:34:27,830 --> 01:34:31,068 I'm convinced that a species that has been 1350 01:34:31,069 --> 01:34:36,518 as successful as ours in the past will not fizzle out 1351 01:34:36,543 --> 01:34:40,778 in a chaos of overpopulation. I just don't believe that. 1352 01:34:40,779 --> 01:34:45,409 As I was finishing this film, some interesting headlines appeared in the news. 1353 01:34:45,410 --> 01:34:48,729 Japan's population is predicted to fall by 1 million people 1354 01:34:48,754 --> 01:34:50,350 a year into the forseeable future. 1355 01:34:50,351 --> 01:34:53,659 By 2060, it will be two-thirds the size it 1356 01:34:53,660 --> 01:34:58,072 is now, with 40% of the population above retirement age. 1357 01:34:58,229 --> 01:35:01,697 Are they leading the charge towards a stable population at a lower level? 1358 01:35:01,728 --> 01:35:04,018 Or will their birthrate continue to drop to nothing, 1359 01:35:04,080 --> 01:35:07,245 just like Calhoun's rats? 1360 01:35:07,270 --> 01:35:09,738 The idea of a shrinking population is discussed 1361 01:35:09,739 --> 01:35:14,650 as if it is a catastrophe, usually for economic reasons. 1362 01:35:14,760 --> 01:35:18,398 Modern economies are based on the idea that continuing population growth 1363 01:35:18,399 --> 01:35:23,505 can service continuing debt growth, which leads to continuing economic growth. 1364 01:35:23,530 --> 01:35:26,974 It's easy to be blinded by all the big numbers and percentages, 1365 01:35:26,999 --> 01:35:28,905 by the projections and predictions. 1366 01:35:28,930 --> 01:35:34,588 We are talking about people, and ultimately about the entire enterprise of life. 1367 01:35:34,589 --> 01:35:38,588 What do we really want? A mirage of success based on theories and statistics, 1368 01:35:38,589 --> 01:35:41,388 or the best possible human experience in balance 1369 01:35:41,400 --> 01:35:44,268 with our planet and the rest of its inhabitants? 1370 01:35:44,269 --> 01:35:48,079 As individuals, shouldn't we strive to create societies which we believe in 1371 01:35:48,080 --> 01:35:51,052 not because they already existed when we were born, 1372 01:35:51,077 --> 01:35:55,017 but because they are worth preserving? 1373 01:35:55,042 --> 01:35:57,402 In the end, Calhoun's rats were locked into a 1374 01:35:57,414 --> 01:35:59,758 set pattern, unable to overcome the situation 1375 01:35:59,759 --> 01:36:02,341 into which they had been put. 1376 01:36:02,372 --> 01:36:04,279 As they circled the drain, none of them were 1377 01:36:04,280 --> 01:36:10,088 able to stand apart, to speak out, to help the others. 1378 01:36:10,089 --> 01:36:13,478 They had lived for too long in constant struggle with one another, 1379 01:36:13,479 --> 01:36:19,083 and between their biology and their psychology, they gave up and died out. 1380 01:36:19,108 --> 01:36:23,588 Humans might not be rats, but that doesn't mean we can't learn from what happened to them. 1381 01:36:23,616 --> 01:36:26,456 It means we have to do better. 1382 01:36:28,007 --> 01:36:32,567 Dr. Calhoun, as a human being, after going through this experiment, 1383 01:36:32,569 --> 01:36:36,639 what goes through your mind? Are you worried about the future of mankind? 1384 01:36:36,640 --> 01:36:41,165 You are highly optimistic but at the same time highly pessimistic, 1385 01:36:41,166 --> 01:36:48,978 and you wish to throw your intellectual weight to the optimistic side, 1386 01:36:48,979 --> 01:36:54,253 to opening up continuing evolution. 1387 01:36:54,717 --> 01:36:57,033 JARRING ROCK MUSIC PLAYS 132854

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