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From humble beginnings
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to legendary award-winning journalist,
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Maussan has been trusted
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as the voice as the people in
Mexico for more than 47 years.
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In the mid-90s,
Maussan brought the subject
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of UFO's to the spotlight.
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Then I became
the anchor, and finally
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the director of the show that
was on the air until 1995.
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From then on, I became
involved with something
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that I felt was very important, UFO's.
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I know many people think
that they are not important,
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that they are an illusion or fantasy,
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but I realized that
many people have cameras
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at the beginning of the 90s,
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and they were able to record the UFO's,
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and I thought that I had a chance
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with these evidences to
change the way people think.
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- Maussan has received
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the United Nation's Global 500 Award,
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three times the National
Prize of Journalism in Mexico,
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the Ondas Award for journalists in Spain.
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He was recognized at the
capital in Washington, DC.
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Currently, he is presenting
Third Millennium News
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from Monday to Friday at 10
p.m. on national television.
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This news has set the standard
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for audience records for
the channel, A-Plus Amas,
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on several occasions.
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Tercer Milenio continues to be presented
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every Sunday on prime time,
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after 22 years of uninterrupted
transmission on Mexican TV.
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- I was not gonna be a journalist.
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I was gonna be an administrative
worker for my father.
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He had a company,
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and he wished that I was able
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to take care of his company,
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and I never thought that I
wanted to be a journalist,
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because 50 years ago the
journalists in Mexico
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were not very honest.
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They wanted money for everything
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they put on the TV or in the newspaper.
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My father was a rancher,
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he had bullfights,
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he was also impresario
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for big bullrings.
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He organized bullfights.
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Even my aunt was a bullfighter,
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then I was going to become one,
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but at the same time my father wanted me
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to take care of his business.
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But in the last day when
I had to choose my major,
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a friend of mine came to me,
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and asked me what was gonna be my future,
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what kind of major I was going to choose?
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Business administration,
something like that.
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And he said, "Oh that's boring."
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and I said, "Why?"
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"Because it's just numbers, you know,
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"in a closed place,
with no windows, so on."
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And I said, "What are you going to study?"
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He said, "Journalism."
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And I said, "Oh, you're
gonna be a corrupt man,
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"you're gonna take money from people."
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And he said, "No, journalism
is to change the world.
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"Journalism is the possibility
to create conscience.
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"Journalism is traveling,
journalism is going into the open,
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"and reporting what you find."
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And I liked that.
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I immediately changed my major,
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probably the best decision
I have done in my life.
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Then, I decided, but my
father didn't like the idea,
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and at the same time he knew
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that the journalists
in Mexico were corrupt.
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And I said to my father,
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"I will never, ever, father,
take any money from anyone.
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"I'm gonna be a very clean
and honest journalist."
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And I have kept that promise until now.
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I've been an honest man, all my life.
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And thanks to that,
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I've been able to develop credibility.
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When I was a young kid,
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I saw the destruction of nature,
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but I didn't know why I didn't like it.
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I knew that the animals were being killed,
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there was business doing with animals,
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that anybody could take an animal
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from their habitats,
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and sell it.
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When I found journalism,
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when I found my real passion for life,
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I really started to
try to change my world.
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And I was able to do it in many ways,
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because I worked in television
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with the most important
journalists of Mexico.
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Jacobo Zabludovsky, the
Walter Cronkite of the US,
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a man that was very well
known everywhere in Mexico,
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and I became very close to him,
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in many ways, his right hand,
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even though I was almost a teenager.
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When I did my first report,
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I took my report to Cannes, in France.
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I was just 19,
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and I received a scholarship from the US,
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from an American university,
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the University of Ohio.
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And I was able to finish my career then.
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When I came back I started
working in journalism,
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to try to protect the environment,
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to try to protect the
woods and the jungles.
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I was able to find
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the monarch butterfly in Mexico,
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their hidden places, where they hibernate.
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Fred Urquhart, Canadian scientist,
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he's the one who found it.
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I mean he's the one who really
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tracked the monarch butterfly,
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but when he published his article
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in National Geographic,
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he never said where it was.
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My network, Televisa, asked me,
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to go out and find the place.
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It took us two years to find it,
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but we finally did, and
I was able to present
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for the first time to the Mexican people,
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the monarch butterfly, and I was able to
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get protection for the monarch butterfly.
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Then, working in 60 Minutes
in Mexico as a reporter,
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I was able to get involved
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with the protection of the turtles.
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In Mexico we used to kill the
turtles in slaughterhouses.
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And thanks to my reporting on 60 Minutes,
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they were closed,
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and we created laws to
protect the turtles,
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and that's the reason why
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some of the species of turtles
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have now recuperated.
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Then, I was able to do many things
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to speak about the climate change,
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or the global warming, back in 1986.
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I was able to speak about
the El Nino current in '87,
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or the depletion of
the ozone layer in '88.
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We were just two journalists
from all around the world,
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who went with NASA to the North Pole,
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to report if there was a
hole in the North Pole,
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as the one that had been
observed in the South Pole.
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They found that no, there was not a hole,
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it was a little bit depleted,
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but we didn't have the same problem,
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because the currents are
different in both poles.
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Anyway, I was able to be there
with a German journalist,
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and even the NASA people were amazed,
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they said, a reporter, a journalist from
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a tropical country is here.
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Why, the Americans, why,
the Europeans, are not here?
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But I was very much involved
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in the protection of environment,
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and when I found that news,
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Televisa allowed me to go
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and participate with NASA,
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in this investigation
back in January, 1988.
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And I was able to do many
other things, like for example,
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to help the Tarahumaras
in the Sierra in Mexico.
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They were dying of hunger and cold,
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also in '88, '87,
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and we were able to get thousands of funds
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of food for them,
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with a report on 60 Minutes in Mexico.
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Then I became the anchor,
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and finally the director of this show
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that was on the air until 1995.
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From then on, I became involved
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with something that I thought
was very important, UFO's.
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I know many people think
that they are not important,
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that they are an illusion or fantasy,
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but I realized that many
people have cameras,
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at the beginning of the 90's,
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and they were able to record the UFO's.
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And I thought that I had a chance,
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with these evidences, to
change the way people think.
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Back in 1991,
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there was a total solar eclipse in Mexico,
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probably the longest,
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or the second longest
in the whole century,
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six minutes and 54 seconds.
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And people, many people in Mexico
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recorded the solar eclipse,
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but some people got UFO's,
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in the middle of the videos,
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and I thought that was very important.
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- I was invited to this program
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because I had done
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a report on 60 Minutes about Billy Meier,
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and people identified me,
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but as a matter of fact,
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I didn't want to go to
this television show,
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because I thought that UFO's
were not good for journalists,
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that they were very risky,
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and I shouldn't get involved with this.
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But my company, my network,
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I don't need to go to
this show (foreign words).
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And it was so successful
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they asked me to go for a second time,
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and I didn't want to go.
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I really didn't want to go.
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I said, "That's it, no more UFO's please."
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But this man insisted.
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"Please, this is the last time.
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"Let's do another show,
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"because you know how
many people saw this,
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"millions and millions
and millions of people,
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"and I want to do a new one."
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And I say okay, but this is the last one.
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This is really the last show.
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And I went there and I was
able to find these videos,
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that were recorded by some
people of the eclipse,
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where they found UFO's.
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When I presented this,
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very early in the morning,
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probably three of four
o'clock in the morning,
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it was a revolution.
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Thousands of people
came to the television.
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At five o'clock in the morning
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there were more than five
or 10 thousand people
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outside the station,
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because they wanted to get in,
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because they were so
excited with these videos,
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and after that show,
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nothing was the same for me in my life.
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I received many invitations
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from different universities in Mexico,
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then I received invitations from
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international congresses around the world,
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and I couldn't get away.
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I couldn't get away anymore.
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Then I started, even without,
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even thinking to get so much involved,
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because people send me videos.
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I have hundreds of videos of UFO's.
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And then I realized that
this was very important,
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this was a new phenomenon,
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a phenomenon inside a phenomenon,
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where people were recording
these things with cameras,
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because everybody had a camera now.
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Or many people had a camera,
VHS, back in '90-'91.
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And I thought with the
development of technology,
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more and more and more people
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are gonna have cameras.
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And then I said, "Well,
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"I am very sure in the future,
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"everyone is gonna have a camera,
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"and we will be able to have
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"many more videos, many more evidences."
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And I started to promote
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people to watch the sky,
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when they have time to watch the sky,
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and record whatever was there.
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I never thought this
was gonna be successful,
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but then I received one
video recorded by one person,
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and then another,
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and another, and another,
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and then dozens, and then hundreds,
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and then I didn't know what to do
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with so much evidence I had.
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And 1995 ended 60 Minutes,
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and I received more and more invitations
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to present conferences.
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And I went all around Mexico,
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and I mean all around Mexico,
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presenting all the evidences,
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with full theaters, and I'm talking
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a thousand people, two
thousand people, everywhere.
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And I couldn't escape anymore,
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and then I became the center
of this phenomenon in Mexico.
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In 1997, I started that show,
Tercer Milenio, on Televisa,
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that lasted until 2003,
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then went out of the air.
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- Tercer Milenio.
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- That Televisa is a huge network,
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the national network in Mexico,
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asked me to come back and present
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Tercer Milenio in 2004.
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And I did it,
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and I have, I've been on the
air since 2004 until now.
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Very successful show.
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Now it's running in a different network,
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also a national network, Azteca.
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And we have even growing
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in numbers, in ratings.
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Around two million people
watch the show every week,
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which should probably be considered
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the most successful show on UFO's
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around the world.
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- UFO's have been the stuff
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of conspiracy theorists for decades,
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often mocked for talking about it,
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but maybe they shouldn't be mocked.
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Commander David Fravor spent 18 years
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as naval aviator or pilot.
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In 2004 he had an unforgettable encounter
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with an aircraft he said was
defying the laws of physics.
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Well Commander Fravor joins us tonight.
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Thanks a lot for coming on tonight.
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Tell us what you saw.
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- We had launched on a
routine training mission.
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When we joined up we were told
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that the event was gonna be canceled,
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and that we have real-world tasking,
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and we were sent out to the west.
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Now take in mind that this is taking place
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about a hundred miles
southwest of San Diego,
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between San Diego and Ensenada, Mexico,
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on a clear, perfect day, blue waters.
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We get out to the spot
where they tell us it's at.
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We start looking around,
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and both of us, both airplanes
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see a disturbance in the water,
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and white, 40-foot long,
Tic Tac-shaped object,
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just hovering above the water,
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going forward, back, left, right.
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There's no rotor wash,
there's no wings, nothing.
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So as we drive around in a clockwise flow,
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we get to about the nine o'clock position,
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and I said, well I'm gonna
go down and check it out,
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and the other jet is gonna stay high.
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So as we go down and when we
get to the 12 o'clock position,
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it starts to mirror us.
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So it's in a clockwise flow
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and it's on the opposite
side of the circle from us,
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and we continue this.
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It's in a climb, we're in a descent.
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We're getting a great look at it,
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this whole thing takes about
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probably up to five minutes
from the time we show up.
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I get over to the eight o'clock position,
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it's at about the two o'clock position,
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and I decide I'm gonna
go and see what it is,
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and it's about 2,000 feet below me,
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and I cut across the circle,
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and as I get within
about a half-mile of it,
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it rapidly accelerates to the south
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in about two seconds and disappears.
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- What would you estimate the speed?
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- Well above supersonic.
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It, like a bullet out
of a gun, it took off.
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- So from what you know about
aerodynamics, mechanics,
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physics, should this be
possible, what you saw?
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- Not with the technology
that we have today,
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not at all.
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- Even now, even 13 years later,
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is there anything that you know of,
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capable of this kind of behavior?
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- No, there's nothing I know of.
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When we saw the video with the IR,
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it has no exhaust,
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no discernible things of
any form of propulsion,
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and this thing came from a
dead hover over the water,
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just kind of moving around
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to a climb up to about 12,000 feet,
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to rapidly accelerating away in a climb,
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and in less than two seconds it was gone.
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And you figure, you're talking
50 miles of visibility,
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and you can easily see
an object that size,
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easily after 10 miles, and it
just disappeared in seconds.
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- What would be the
effects on a human pilot,
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the G forces involved
in that altitude change?
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- Well the altitude wouldn't be bad,
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it would be the
acceleration of the object.
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- Right.
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- Honestly, I wanted to fly it.
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You know talking to some physicists,
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they don't think the
human body could handle
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that kind of force
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with that acceleration.
- Yeah, it doesn't,
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it doesn't sound like
the human body could.
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So bottom line, what
do you think this was?
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- I believe as do the other folks
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that were on the flight
when we visually saw it,
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that it was something not from this world.
393
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- Presumably you expressed
that belief to your superiors,
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what did they say?
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- Actually we caught a lot of grief
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00:21:18,930 --> 00:21:20,720
getting back to the boat,
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and it got passed off as an
event that no one could explain.
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Now keep in mind, they
had been tracking these
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for two weeks prior to us seeing it,
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and this was the first
time that manned airplanes
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had been airborne when
the objects appeared.
402
00:21:34,420 --> 00:21:36,201
- This feels like a
really big story to me,
403
00:21:36,201 --> 00:21:38,690
it's not exactly clear why
404
00:21:38,690 --> 00:21:40,670
Vladimir Putin's more
interesting than this.
405
00:21:40,670 --> 00:21:42,190
I think this seems like a big deal,
406
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and Commander, I appreciate your
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00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:45,413
taking the time to talk do us about it.
408
00:21:46,874 --> 00:21:50,041
409
00:22:59,540 --> 00:23:04,320
- Back in 2004, the Secretary
of Defense in Mexico
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called me to deliver a video to me.
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They recorded this video
on March the 5th, 2004.
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It goes to the Campeche area,
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but the plane was in the
middle of the jungle.
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00:23:19,740 --> 00:23:22,030
They were able to record these lights,
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00:23:22,030 --> 00:23:23,343
following the airplane.
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00:23:24,656 --> 00:23:26,973
There were 11 lights
following the airplane.
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00:23:27,850 --> 00:23:31,410
The Mexican scientist went
to the television to say,
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00:23:31,410 --> 00:23:35,410
that they were, how you say, lightning,
419
00:23:35,410 --> 00:23:37,113
or energy in the air,
420
00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:39,630
ball lightning.
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11 ball lightning, following
and surrounding an airplane.
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They went to the Secretary
of Defense later and said,
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00:23:49,940 --> 00:23:51,430
oh we are sorry,
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00:23:51,430 --> 00:23:54,800
oh we were wrong, sorry.
425
00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:58,370
But they had never said
that publicly, you see?
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00:23:58,370 --> 00:24:01,070
But they know they were wrong,
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00:24:01,070 --> 00:24:02,940
because the Secretary of Defense
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00:24:02,940 --> 00:24:06,070
wouldn't deliver a video of UFO's,
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00:24:06,070 --> 00:24:08,163
if he knew it was something else.
430
00:24:09,300 --> 00:24:11,710
Then I can tell you,
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00:24:11,710 --> 00:24:15,680
that proves that in Mexico
even the authorities
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00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:17,530
are ready to accept this.
433
00:24:17,530 --> 00:24:19,490
The only reason we don't do it,
434
00:24:19,490 --> 00:24:22,420
is because we don't
want to confront the US.
435
00:24:22,420 --> 00:24:26,100
We don't want to confront
the scientists from the US,
436
00:24:26,100 --> 00:24:30,400
because they would make fun
of the Mexican government,
437
00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:33,460
and they would make jokes about that,
438
00:24:33,460 --> 00:24:35,960
and nobody's ready for that.
439
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:39,127
440
00:29:49,212 --> 00:29:51,462
441
00:29:55,352 --> 00:29:58,610
- I received a call from the Secretary
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00:29:58,610 --> 00:30:01,810
of the Secretary of Defense in Mexico.
443
00:30:01,810 --> 00:30:02,810
He asked me to come.
444
00:30:05,460 --> 00:30:07,360
I had an appointment, I went there,
445
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:10,320
I sit down in an office, nobody was there.
446
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:15,053
When I realized I was in the drug traffic,
447
00:30:16,812 --> 00:30:19,488
from the administration from the military,
448
00:30:19,488 --> 00:30:21,030
and I said, Jesus Christ,
449
00:30:21,030 --> 00:30:22,110
what happened?
450
00:30:22,110 --> 00:30:24,840
Did somebody say that I did something?
451
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:26,320
What I'm doing here?
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00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:28,680
I have to go, I have to go.
453
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:30,220
This is no good.
454
00:30:30,220 --> 00:30:32,650
And then they came and
said, Mister Maussan,
455
00:30:32,650 --> 00:30:33,920
can you come with us please?
456
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:35,660
And I says, Jesus Christ,
457
00:30:35,660 --> 00:30:36,910
what is gonna happen now?
458
00:30:37,870 --> 00:30:40,833
And they took me to a little theater,
459
00:30:41,990 --> 00:30:44,473
and they put the video, and they all said,
460
00:30:44,473 --> 00:30:46,327
"Can you explain this please?"
461
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:49,937
And I saw it, and I said,
462
00:30:49,937 --> 00:30:53,227
"Jesus, are these things
following the airplane?"
463
00:30:53,227 --> 00:30:55,407
"Yes, and they surrounded the airplane."
464
00:30:56,837 --> 00:30:58,647
"Can I talk to the pilot?"
465
00:30:58,647 --> 00:31:01,300
"No, first tell us what you think."
466
00:31:01,300 --> 00:31:04,160
And I said, "Well, I
think they are UFO's."
467
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:07,650
The video had been recorded
with a FLIR camera.
468
00:31:07,650 --> 00:31:12,650
This camera was in 2004,
just for the military.
469
00:31:12,950 --> 00:31:16,560
It was a very specialized camera,
470
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:19,440
that could track the infrared,
471
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:22,783
and could track the heat in the airplane.
472
00:31:23,660 --> 00:31:26,170
They were using this camera
473
00:31:26,170 --> 00:31:30,150
in this airplane because
they were looking for
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00:31:30,150 --> 00:31:33,500
narcotics from, drugs from South America,
475
00:31:33,500 --> 00:31:35,500
and they were in the area where
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00:31:35,500 --> 00:31:40,260
is the shortest in Mexico,
from coast to coast,
477
00:31:40,260 --> 00:31:42,573
and the airplanes had to go through there,
478
00:31:43,420 --> 00:31:48,420
and it was fairly easy to
track these drug dealers.
479
00:31:49,820 --> 00:31:52,340
And they used this as special equipment.
480
00:31:52,340 --> 00:31:56,800
And the military, saw these lights.
481
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,110
They couldn't see the
lights with their eyes.
482
00:31:59,110 --> 00:32:01,620
They just saw it with the camera,
483
00:32:01,620 --> 00:32:04,060
but they knew, they had a screen,
484
00:32:04,060 --> 00:32:07,150
in the airplane and they
were looking at the screen,
485
00:32:07,150 --> 00:32:09,260
even though they couldn't find it
486
00:32:09,260 --> 00:32:11,550
in the air, in the atmosphere.
487
00:32:11,550 --> 00:32:13,023
It was in the camera,
488
00:32:13,870 --> 00:32:15,630
and they got very nervous,
489
00:32:15,630 --> 00:32:19,220
especially when they were
surrounded by these lights.
490
00:32:19,220 --> 00:32:21,093
The captain turn off
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00:32:23,390 --> 00:32:25,130
the navigation lights,
492
00:32:25,130 --> 00:32:27,000
because he thought
493
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:30,473
he was gonna be
confronted, by these UFO's.
494
00:32:31,950 --> 00:32:33,180
Then some people came,
495
00:32:33,180 --> 00:32:34,950
and tried to explain that video,
496
00:32:34,950 --> 00:32:39,950
saying that they were oil rigs.
497
00:32:40,420 --> 00:32:41,680
- [Interviewer] Letting off fire?
498
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,680
- Exactly, and some other things,
499
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:49,493
missiles, and so many really crazy things.
500
00:32:50,700 --> 00:32:55,170
But the military were there every day,
501
00:32:55,170 --> 00:32:58,090
for many hours, in the same place,
502
00:32:58,090 --> 00:33:01,960
and they never saw something like this,
503
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:03,543
and they couldn't explain it.
504
00:33:04,930 --> 00:33:08,850
When I told them that these were UFO's,
505
00:33:08,850 --> 00:33:12,510
they said, "Okay, thank you
very much Mister Maussan."
506
00:33:12,510 --> 00:33:15,273
And I left, they didn't
tell me anything else.
507
00:33:16,110 --> 00:33:17,850
I received a call again,
508
00:33:17,850 --> 00:33:19,640
a couple of days later,
509
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:23,092
and they say, the Secretary of Defense
510
00:33:23,092 --> 00:33:26,270
wants to see you
personally, in his office.
511
00:33:26,270 --> 00:33:27,363
I went there,
512
00:33:28,260 --> 00:33:31,580
and he asked me, "What
do you think they are?"
513
00:33:31,580 --> 00:33:32,727
And I said, "UFO's.
514
00:33:32,727 --> 00:33:34,997
"Can I talk to the crew?"
515
00:33:34,997 --> 00:33:36,773
"You will, you will.
516
00:33:37,987 --> 00:33:40,587
"You are gonna be the only
one who is gonna do that.
517
00:33:41,657 --> 00:33:43,177
"I'm gonna give you the tape,
518
00:33:43,177 --> 00:33:45,177
"you can do whatever you want.
519
00:33:45,177 --> 00:33:50,177
"Just remember that you
have the honor and the pride
520
00:33:50,287 --> 00:33:53,777
"of the Armed Forces of
Mexico in your hands.
521
00:33:53,777 --> 00:33:54,907
"Be very careful."
522
00:33:56,006 --> 00:33:59,173
523
00:35:49,757 --> 00:35:53,380
- "If somebody asks you
who gave you this video..."
524
00:35:53,380 --> 00:35:56,570
I thought, oh he's gonna say,
525
00:35:56,570 --> 00:35:58,577
you don't know who gave you this.
526
00:35:58,577 --> 00:36:00,287
"...you are gonna say,
527
00:36:00,287 --> 00:36:04,020
"that the Secretary of
Defense gave you this video."
528
00:36:04,020 --> 00:36:06,790
And I said, Jesus Christ.
529
00:36:06,790 --> 00:36:09,530
My pants almost fell down.
530
00:36:09,530 --> 00:36:13,110
I have this evidence, they
have given me this evidence,
531
00:36:13,110 --> 00:36:15,870
and the Secretary of Defense of Mexico
532
00:36:15,870 --> 00:36:18,800
was supporting me,
whatever I did with this.
533
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:20,960
I felt a big responsibility.
534
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:24,300
I investigated everything
I could with this tape.
535
00:36:24,300 --> 00:36:26,640
I had a chance to interview
536
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:27,740
all the crew,
537
00:36:29,538 --> 00:36:32,568
the captain, and the cameraman,
538
00:36:32,568 --> 00:36:35,768
and everyone that was inside the plane,
539
00:36:35,768 --> 00:36:37,680
and all of them told me,
540
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:41,073
this is real, we've never
seen anything like this.
541
00:36:42,250 --> 00:36:44,710
And then I presented this video
542
00:36:44,710 --> 00:36:47,910
in a national television
program in Mexico,
543
00:36:47,910 --> 00:36:50,940
in the newscast, in the
most important newscast,
544
00:36:50,940 --> 00:36:51,773
on May the 9th,
545
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:58,768
or the 10th, of 2004.
546
00:36:58,768 --> 00:37:01,270
The next day I gave a press conference,
547
00:37:01,270 --> 00:37:03,730
and all the international media
548
00:37:03,730 --> 00:37:06,390
came to the press conference.
549
00:37:06,390 --> 00:37:08,370
I gave them this video,
550
00:37:08,370 --> 00:37:10,890
and next night, or that night,
551
00:37:10,890 --> 00:37:14,150
it was everywhere around the world,
552
00:37:14,150 --> 00:37:16,180
in every single newscast.
553
00:37:16,180 --> 00:37:19,010
I don't think there is
a sighting of UFO's,
554
00:37:19,010 --> 00:37:22,070
that has been presented everywhere
555
00:37:22,070 --> 00:37:25,633
like this happened in 2004.
556
00:37:27,368 --> 00:37:31,540
And then I thought that I had
done my job the best I could.
557
00:37:31,540 --> 00:37:34,520
I never expected the explanations
558
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:37,470
that were going to be given to this video,
559
00:37:37,470 --> 00:37:41,403
incredible video, were gonna
be so stupid as they were.
560
00:37:43,691 --> 00:37:46,858
561
00:41:34,888 --> 00:41:38,500
- After I learned that there were UFO's
562
00:41:38,500 --> 00:41:40,760
that were invisible to the eye,
563
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:43,970
I proposed that idea on television,
564
00:41:43,970 --> 00:41:45,950
and Pedro Avila,
565
00:41:45,950 --> 00:41:47,623
a UFO hunter,
566
00:41:48,750 --> 00:41:50,193
who cannot walk,
567
00:41:51,070 --> 00:41:53,940
he's in a chair,
568
00:41:53,940 --> 00:41:56,563
he's looking through
his window all day long,
569
00:41:59,190 --> 00:42:02,900
built a device, to put two cameras,
570
00:42:02,900 --> 00:42:06,583
one infrared and one normal spectrum,
571
00:42:07,811 --> 00:42:10,570
and he was able, it's the only time
572
00:42:10,570 --> 00:42:12,730
that this has every been done everywhere
573
00:42:13,810 --> 00:42:18,610
where you have camera recording
in the normal spectrum,
574
00:42:18,610 --> 00:42:21,430
and the other camera in the infrared,
575
00:42:21,430 --> 00:42:24,690
and you can see these
objects in the infrared,
576
00:42:24,690 --> 00:42:27,360
and you cannot really see anything
577
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:29,130
in the normal spectrum,
578
00:42:29,130 --> 00:42:32,070
proving that there are UFO's
579
00:42:32,070 --> 00:42:35,103
that are not visible to
the eye, to the sight.
580
00:42:35,990 --> 00:42:38,740
And I think that was very important.
581
00:42:38,740 --> 00:42:41,760
From then one, more and more people
582
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:44,610
and with the development of technology,
583
00:42:44,610 --> 00:42:48,713
even the FLIR technology now,
584
00:42:49,570 --> 00:42:53,870
available to many
people, to almost anyone,
585
00:42:53,870 --> 00:42:57,180
who wants to have a FLIR
camera, now you can have it.
586
00:42:57,180 --> 00:43:02,180
And now many people are
recording these invisible UFO's,
587
00:43:03,140 --> 00:43:07,590
everywhere, and it is just amazing.
588
00:43:07,590 --> 00:43:12,590
And we are proving now that
what was said 15 years ago,
589
00:43:13,130 --> 00:43:15,630
with the military in Mexico,
590
00:43:15,630 --> 00:43:20,060
is happening in many,
many places, right now.
591
00:43:20,060 --> 00:43:22,990
- Maussan
has a multi-faceted story,
592
00:43:22,990 --> 00:43:27,580
that spans the over-arcing
theme of ET visitation.
593
00:43:27,580 --> 00:43:29,950
He has coordinated the investigation
594
00:43:29,950 --> 00:43:33,060
of the tridactylus beings in Peru,
595
00:43:33,060 --> 00:43:36,200
and that could become the
most important finding
596
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:38,413
that has been made on the theme.
597
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:45,040
His story will continue,
598
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:47,927
and so will "Beyond the Spectrum."
599
00:43:49,548 --> 00:43:52,465
600
00:44:14,914 --> 00:44:18,414
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