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- Synced and corrected by chamallow -
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Joseph, what's the latest on IS?
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Do we have any matches?
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Yeah, kind of. I'm having
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a little bit of trouble
trying to get our software
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to distinguish between times
when someone has referred
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to IS, as in the Islamic State,
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which is what I presume we
need to keep a record of,
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versus times when they'd
simply used the word "is."
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You've spent the best part of a week
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looking into all
nationwide communication
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containing the word "is"?
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Yeah. I mean, you'd be surprised
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how much it comes up.
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Jerry, have you been able to get
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a cybertrace on where the Russians
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might be operating from?
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Uh, well, first of all,
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good morning, Chris,
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uh, and no,
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my only guess is that
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somehow they're able to operate
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even when their main server is asleep.
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- I'm a bit like that.
- By the way,
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has the NSA reached out
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to see how I'm getting
on with all of this?
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Yes, of course. If word gets out
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that a weapon designed by the NSA
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is now in the hands of terrorists,
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it's gonna be the biggest
humiliation since Snowden.
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Yeah, I was asking more about, like,
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did they reach out to say
hi, or... but what you said
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was also super important.
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Right. No.
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Also, just so that you know.
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as part of GCHQ's commitment
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to tackling sexual
harassment and discrimination
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in the workplace,
SciSec has been assigned
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Hilary Bowden, who will be leading
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some workshops during the day.
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Is she GCHQ?
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No, but she comes recommended
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by Rupert and Downing
Street and she's also
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worked closely with Prince Andrew.
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Not too closely, I hope.
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And one final thing.
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One final thing. I'm
delighted to announce
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that SciSec's new fire
marshal will be Evelyn.
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- Uhh! Was it close?
- No.
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- What do you mean?
- Well done.
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Wait a minute. You didn't
even apply for the role?
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- Well, no.
- Does HR know?
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It's fine. It's just
something to keep her active
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and get her out of my office.
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Chris, you can't just give that role
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to your own daughter.
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- Why not?
- Well, isn't that...
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what's it called when
you favor a relative?
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Incest?
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If you're accusing me of nepotism
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within GCHQ, it's
probably my grandmother
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you need to speak to first.
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Right. Where is she at?
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Cheltenham Cemetery. 12 across, 4 down.
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Oh, it's lovely around there.
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- It's bullshit.
- If only it wasn't so obvious that
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Evelyn has got the role purely on merit.
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Sorry, got what on merit?
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Any update from the Russians on how
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your mum's getting on there?
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Oh, they won't let me speak to her.
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She's very strong-willed.
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She once ate a glass vase.
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Come along. Let's get this over with.
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Yep.
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Uh, yeah, hi.
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I just wanted to make sure you received
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my, uh, my donation to the Women's
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Progressive Liberal Library Fund.
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Yes, $10,000. Great. Thank you.
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I'm so sorry. How can I help you?
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Hilary Bowden. I'll be leading
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the harassment and
discrimination sessions today.
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Oh, right, right.
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Jerry Bernstein, NSA.
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Well, are you a breath of fresh air.
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Oh, really? Why?
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Oh, just that you're a very...
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um... um... red. You're very red.
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Heh.
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Were you about to say I was attractive?
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Maybe. Would that have been OK?
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Of course. Why not?
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Well, it's just that, you know,
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men like me are often... ah, never mind.
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No, go on.
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No, it's just that, you know,
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being a good-looking
straight white male these days
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is kind of like having a
target on your back, you know?
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Anyway, um, if you need anything at all
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while... while you're here, you just,
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you know, give me a nudge.
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I'm a big fan of your...
of your harassment...
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of... anti-harass... and... your work,
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and... and discrimination.
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Very important.
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Well, then. Shall we?
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- No, please.
- No, please.
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OK.
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Oh! Hello.
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After you.
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How do you feel about sharing
the fire marshal position?
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- There's only one tabard.
- Yeah, I know,
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but I can always give
it a rinse in between.
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Aren't you already
health and safety officer?
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Oh, yeah, I know, but ever since Elaine
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walked into that sheet of glass,
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there's been nothing to do.
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Well, what do you want me to do?
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Start a fire?
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That's not really necessary.
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Good morning, everyone.
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- Good morning.
- Good morning.
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As you know, my name is Hilary Bowden.
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I'm an ambassador for
CBT in the workplace.
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I have experience with animals.
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And I am co-creator of
the biodegradable coil.
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We are stretched for time, so,
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just to get the ball rolling,
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I'd like to start with a general chat
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about our own personal
experiences of harassment.
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Would anyone like to go first?
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Well...
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- oh, no.
- No.
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- You sure?
- Yeah. you go.
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So, I often get teased quite a lot
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because of my height. I don't know if
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that counts as harassment per se.
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I see. And from a psychological
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point of view, does that get you down?
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Well, I'm a lot closer to the ground,
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if that's what... is
that what you meant?
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But do you ever find it restricting?
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Oh, no. No, not... I mean,
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within reason, I can fit
into any size space, so.
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- Like a squid.
- Or a gas.
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And Jerry, as the alpha of the pack,
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have you always been this tall?
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Yeah, since birth. I'm...
I'm tall everywhere.
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And are you now at your
maximum height, do you think?
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Actually, I can feel
myself growing right now.
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Lovely. OK. So, I would like to
try a little bit of role play.
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Mary and Joseph.
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Come help me at the front here.
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Um, Jerry, could you please,
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chair for me, please.
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Oh!
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OK, so, I want you to imagine
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that Mary has been bullying Joseph
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- for his height, say, and...
- Why?
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Well, actually, that's a good point.
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In theory, why else might we
want to make fun of Joseph?
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I don't know the best way to say this.
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The color of his skin?
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- Yes, thank you.
- His intellect.
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- Size of his nose.
- The way he dresses.
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I think that's probably enough.
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His one brow?
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Jerry, I think that...
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Yes, that's a good amount of variables.
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And which one of these are you
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most comfortable talking about, Mary?
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Oh. Probably, um... uh...
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the color of his skin?
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Yes. I agree. At least in theory,
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that's certainly the most obvious.
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I don't know. That nose is pretty big.
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Jerry.
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So, I want you to imagine
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that you've had a run-in with Joseph
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and you've ended up
saying something racist.
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Do you want me to actually
say the word out loud?
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Well, do you have a
particular word in mind?
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A few, yes.
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Oh, but only because Mum
used to talk in her sleep.
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- Right.
- Just for my write-up,
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Christine, what proportion
of the office is black?
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Sorry. I believe the correct
term is African-American.
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I think quite a lot of
the furniture is black.
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Sorry. African-American.
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Of course, we have very few, if any,
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African-Americans working here.
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What? How do you get away with that?
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OK. I think that's enough.
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- Yeah.
- Now we can all relax.
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How did that make you feel, Joseph?
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Uh... I guess it made
me feel a bit more white.
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Hilary, given that I hang
out with Joseph so much,
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does that mean I can never
be accused of being a racist?
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OK, well, let's break
that down, shall we?
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Does your friendship with Joseph
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ever feel like a conscious decision?
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- Absolutely.
- Never.
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- Oh.
- I mean, a little bit of both.
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It's not an act of pity or self-defense?
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How would it be an act of self-defense?
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Well, perhaps it makes Jerry feel
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more powerful, surrounding himself
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- with people of color.
- Like in "Moana."
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- Yeah.
- No, I'd never do that.
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That's not to say I don't feel
powerful around you, buddy,
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but I think anyone would.
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Hmm.
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OK, so, this next bit's actually
taken from my latest book.
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It's just a scenario that
I'd like you to mull over
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before we break for lunch.
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Now, what if Jerry invited
Joseph over to his house?
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He's staying in a hotel.
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OK, so, imagine he invites
him over to his hotel
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- and cooks him a delicious...
- Doesn't have a kitchen.
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Well, let's just assume it's a suite.
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I'm sure they'd upgrade me if I asked.
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Couldn't you just use the hotel kitchen?
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That was going to be my question.
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- Christine:
- JESUS. JERRY: No, I don't want
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to hang out with those guys.
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I'm trying to cook Joseph a
nice, romantic children's meal.
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The point is, Jerry
ends up cooking Joseph
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a really big, vibrant curry.
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You wrote a book about this?
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- I quite like curry.
- Oh, there you go. See?
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The question is, though, is that racist?
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No way. I'm just using up
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all the ingredients I had left over.
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I thought that was pancake day.
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But is this a sign that we have
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preconceived ideas of people?
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No. I'm just trying to cook
my best friend in London...
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- Cheltenham.
- Cheltenham his favorite meal.
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- I never said it was my favorite.
- See?
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Yeah, but I'd do the
same for... for anyone.
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I mean, apart from Tuva, maybe.
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Why? What would you cook for me?
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I'm imagining a more fragrant, spicy,
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kind of noodle thing.
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Surely that's time.
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- With a side of crickets.
- The fuck?
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Are we not doing the
bit in the role play
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where I call Joseph a...
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Wow.
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Phones off.
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- Up. Move.
- Oh, what? God.
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Look at you.
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- Move up.
- Yeah.
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Hilary just grabbed my junk again.
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What? Why?
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Maybe it's some kind of game,
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like a perverted version of Bop It.
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Whatever it is, I think she's winning.
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Are you gonna say something?
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I don't know. I mean,
262
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what if she's just really into me?
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What if she's not?
264
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Well, then I'm gonna tell on her.
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To Chris?
266
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What's going on?
267
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Oh, just tell her Hilary
grabbed Jerry's crotch
268
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and he wants to tell Chris.
269
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- Oh.
- Pass it on.
270
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Something about Jerry
and Chris's crotch.
271
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I didn't really catch it.
272
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- You caught something?
- I don't know,
273
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but we all have to pass it on.
274
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- Jerry's got an STD.
- What?
275
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- Pass it on.
- Ew. No. Gross.
276
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Jerry's got syphilis again.
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It's sexual harassment time.
278
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What I want to examine is what's
acceptable in the workplace,
279
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what's unacceptable, and
ultimately, what's illegal.
280
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- Yeah, me, too.
- Can anyone give me
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an example of something that's
illegal in the workplace?
282
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Homicide.
283
00:11:24,410 --> 00:11:29,849
Yes, but I'm particularly
interested in those muddier areas.
284
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Who uses kisses at the
end of their emails?
285
00:11:33,889 --> 00:11:35,690
And how does everyone
else feel about that?
286
00:11:35,729 --> 00:11:38,370
- How do you think?
- The only thing that bothers me
287
00:11:38,371 --> 00:11:40,410
is when the whole email is just a kiss.
288
00:11:40,450 --> 00:11:43,530
- Even the subject line?
- Yeah, there's like kisses just everywhere.
289
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Yeah, in my defense
290
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I think a lot of those
were group emails.
291
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They were. Joseph: Yeah.
292
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Why haven't I received one of them?
293
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I don't know. You'd have to
check your mailbox settings.
294
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- OK.
- I sometimes use hugs at the end of my emails.
295
00:11:55,290 --> 00:11:56,769
- What's a hug?
- Kind of like...
296
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No. Get off. No, I mean
297
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how do you write a hug in email?
298
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Oh. Well, I type a big capital "O,"
299
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or I use open and closed brackets.
300
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Just to offer you my
professional opinion,
301
00:12:07,889 --> 00:12:09,729
and I'd say the same to the royals,
302
00:12:09,769 --> 00:12:12,530
I'd worry that might look a
little like an entranceway.
303
00:12:12,570 --> 00:12:15,729
Oh. What, like I'm inviting someone in?
304
00:12:15,769 --> 00:12:17,849
- Yeah, baby.
- That's not allowed.
305
00:12:17,889 --> 00:12:19,210
- What? "Yeah, baby"?
- Yeah.
306
00:12:19,249 --> 00:12:21,129
Oh, come on. It's harmless, isn't it?
307
00:12:21,170 --> 00:12:22,369
It's just like two words.
308
00:12:22,410 --> 00:12:23,889
So is "sugar tits."
309
00:12:23,930 --> 00:12:25,210
- Thank you.
- Christine, how do you
310
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usually sign off your emails?
311
00:12:26,690 --> 00:12:28,450
- Would you ever use a kiss?
- No.
312
00:12:28,489 --> 00:12:31,129
I only ever sign off with an
"X" if I want that person killed.
313
00:12:31,170 --> 00:12:32,769
Hmm. Tony Blair does that.
314
00:12:32,810 --> 00:12:34,170
Is that why you keep doing that to me?
315
00:12:34,210 --> 00:12:35,810
No. If I wanted you killed,
316
00:12:35,849 --> 00:12:39,050
I'd probably just do it in your sleep.
317
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Oh, my gosh.
318
00:12:40,369 --> 00:12:41,530
So, one additional thing I'm keen
319
00:12:41,570 --> 00:12:44,129
to examine within these sessions
320
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is the degree to which
321
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our decisions are affected
322
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by unconscious bias.
323
00:12:48,729 --> 00:12:49,729
I wouldn't know.
324
00:12:49,769 --> 00:12:51,249
Exactly. So,
325
00:12:51,290 --> 00:12:52,849
the best way I like to test this
326
00:12:52,889 --> 00:12:55,129
is by imagining that
the building is on fire
327
00:12:55,170 --> 00:12:57,889
and working out who
you would save first.
328
00:12:57,930 --> 00:12:59,649
- Jerry.
- Quentin.
329
00:12:59,690 --> 00:13:01,530
- Joseph.
- Mum.
330
00:13:01,570 --> 00:13:02,969
- Mary.
- Oh!
331
00:13:03,009 --> 00:13:04,690
- You're the lightest.
- Hmm.
332
00:13:04,729 --> 00:13:06,530
Well, no, try and
ignore all other factors.
333
00:13:06,570 --> 00:13:08,530
So, let's pretend that you're Superman
334
00:13:08,570 --> 00:13:10,609
and therefore, the size and weight
335
00:13:10,649 --> 00:13:12,769
of an individual isn't important.
336
00:13:12,810 --> 00:13:14,969
So, assuming you're Superman, Jerry,
337
00:13:15,009 --> 00:13:17,210
would Mary be your first choice as well?
338
00:13:17,249 --> 00:13:19,290
Uh, I'm not sure.
339
00:13:19,330 --> 00:13:20,769
I'd be worried about her wig
340
00:13:20,810 --> 00:13:22,849
catching fire and damaging my cape.
341
00:13:22,889 --> 00:13:24,729
- That's not a wig.
- What about me?
342
00:13:24,769 --> 00:13:26,769
Oh, well, you'd be OK for a few hours
343
00:13:26,810 --> 00:13:28,609
in your mom's glass box up there.
344
00:13:28,649 --> 00:13:31,450
- Not if it melts.
- Oh, Tuva.
345
00:13:31,489 --> 00:13:32,649
Chris, I'm sure you'd want
346
00:13:32,690 --> 00:13:34,210
to save Evelyn at some point.
347
00:13:34,249 --> 00:13:36,470
Well, I wouldn't want to be
accused of nepotism, would I?
348
00:13:36,471 --> 00:13:37,944
So, you'd rather I burned to death?
349
00:13:37,945 --> 00:13:40,690
To be honest, I don't think
any of this would have happened
350
00:13:40,729 --> 00:13:42,090
if I'd have been made fire
marshal in the first place.
351
00:13:42,129 --> 00:13:43,530
So, what we actually recommend
352
00:13:43,570 --> 00:13:46,210
as a way of avoiding unconscious
bias within this scenario
353
00:13:46,249 --> 00:13:47,530
is to save people,
354
00:13:47,570 --> 00:13:49,369
but in alphabetical order.
355
00:13:49,410 --> 00:13:50,690
Oh. Great.
356
00:13:50,729 --> 00:13:52,249
Starting with you, Christine.
357
00:13:52,290 --> 00:13:53,969
- What?
- Followed by Evelyn.
358
00:13:54,009 --> 00:13:55,969
- Great.
- And it would be me...
359
00:13:56,009 --> 00:13:58,210
Hilary... if I happened to be around.
360
00:13:58,249 --> 00:13:59,489
Yes, what a shame you're only here
361
00:13:59,530 --> 00:14:00,969
for one day of the year.
362
00:14:01,009 --> 00:14:02,649
- Like Santa Claus.
- Or a smear test.
363
00:14:02,690 --> 00:14:03,889
Yes.
364
00:14:07,729 --> 00:14:09,009
What I want to look at now
365
00:14:09,050 --> 00:14:10,489
is physical interaction.
366
00:14:10,530 --> 00:14:14,769
Now, I will warn you that some
of this is quite sensitive, but
367
00:14:14,810 --> 00:14:16,930
I did try some of these techniques out
368
00:14:16,969 --> 00:14:18,810
at a COBRA meeting last week,
369
00:14:18,849 --> 00:14:20,849
so, they are perfectly safe.
370
00:14:20,889 --> 00:14:24,170
Ah, Jerry, do you mind joining
me at the front, please?
371
00:14:24,210 --> 00:14:26,649
So, what I'm going to do
is I'm going to demonstrate
372
00:14:26,690 --> 00:14:28,930
how to hug a colleague the correct way
373
00:14:28,969 --> 00:14:30,889
from a legal point of view.
374
00:14:30,930 --> 00:14:35,570
OK, so, here we go.
And 1, 2, and then off.
375
00:14:36,729 --> 00:14:38,530
Now, if you want to put a bit of force
376
00:14:38,570 --> 00:14:40,050
back into your pushback, just to prove
377
00:14:40,090 --> 00:14:42,609
there's no agenda there,
that's absolutely fine.
378
00:14:42,649 --> 00:14:44,210
But what if your colleague
379
00:14:44,249 --> 00:14:46,330
has just witnessed something horrendous
380
00:14:46,369 --> 00:14:48,290
on the web and you feel
381
00:14:48,330 --> 00:14:50,170
like a longer hug is necessary?
382
00:14:50,210 --> 00:14:52,410
So, you might want to go for a...
383
00:14:52,450 --> 00:14:55,050
a 1, 2, 3, and then...
384
00:14:57,170 --> 00:14:58,290
Jesus.
385
00:14:58,330 --> 00:15:00,969
OK? So, why don't we all give that a go?
386
00:15:02,570 --> 00:15:03,930
Hold on to my hand.
387
00:15:03,969 --> 00:15:05,930
1... 1.
388
00:15:05,969 --> 00:15:08,489
Be careful. She's ancient.
389
00:15:08,530 --> 00:15:09,769
Give me a hug.
390
00:15:09,810 --> 00:15:11,489
OK, here? Here?
391
00:15:11,530 --> 00:15:14,129
- That was awkward, actually.
- Yeah.
392
00:15:14,170 --> 00:15:16,530
On the count of 3, I want you to all
393
00:15:16,570 --> 00:15:17,729
arrange yourselves in order
394
00:15:17,769 --> 00:15:20,129
of who you feel is most likely
395
00:15:20,170 --> 00:15:21,450
to be taken advantage of.
396
00:15:21,489 --> 00:15:22,849
1, 2, 3, go.
397
00:15:31,129 --> 00:15:33,009
Fantastic. Now, please sit back down.
398
00:15:41,690 --> 00:15:44,210
- Ah, I have a question.
- Sure.
399
00:15:44,249 --> 00:15:46,330
What if someone were to,
400
00:15:46,369 --> 00:15:47,930
I don't know, say,
401
00:15:47,969 --> 00:15:51,249
grab your ass or your crotch.
402
00:15:51,290 --> 00:15:55,410
Would I report that as
sexual harassment or...
403
00:15:55,450 --> 00:15:56,930
Or what?
404
00:15:56,969 --> 00:15:58,530
Or would I
405
00:15:58,570 --> 00:16:00,369
correctly interpret that
406
00:16:00,410 --> 00:16:02,090
as someone having
407
00:16:02,129 --> 00:16:04,810
extremely strong feelings for me?
408
00:16:04,849 --> 00:16:07,609
I wouldn't have thought so, no.
409
00:16:07,649 --> 00:16:08,769
Really?
410
00:16:08,810 --> 00:16:11,009
Then why is that person
411
00:16:11,050 --> 00:16:13,249
going around grabbing people's crotches?
412
00:16:13,290 --> 00:16:16,129
I guess because it
makes them feel powerful,
413
00:16:16,170 --> 00:16:17,690
especially when they know
414
00:16:17,729 --> 00:16:20,050
that no one will ever
believe the other party.
415
00:16:20,090 --> 00:16:21,849
What? Why would they do that?
416
00:16:21,889 --> 00:16:23,530
I mean, that's totally fucked up.
417
00:16:23,570 --> 00:16:24,690
I know, but sadly,
418
00:16:24,729 --> 00:16:25,930
it's what the science shows us
419
00:16:25,969 --> 00:16:27,410
again and again.
420
00:16:27,450 --> 00:16:30,969
OK. For those of you who don't
know what's going on here...
421
00:16:32,369 --> 00:16:34,570
Hilary grabbed my crotch
422
00:16:34,609 --> 00:16:38,210
and my tush earlier, multiple times.
423
00:16:38,249 --> 00:16:40,050
OK, so, now might be a good time
424
00:16:40,090 --> 00:16:42,969
to look at how best to
deal with both accusations.
425
00:16:43,009 --> 00:16:45,810
- What?
- Mary, do you mind joining us, please?
426
00:16:45,849 --> 00:16:47,969
Wait, no, hold it. This is bullshit.
427
00:16:48,009 --> 00:16:49,530
- She's lying.
- So, Jerry,
428
00:16:49,570 --> 00:16:51,450
what I want you to
do is just demonstrate
429
00:16:51,489 --> 00:16:53,090
what you believe happened
430
00:16:53,129 --> 00:16:54,530
as part of a role play.
431
00:16:54,570 --> 00:16:57,050
Fine. On you or... or Mary?
432
00:16:57,090 --> 00:16:58,369
On Mary.
433
00:16:59,810 --> 00:17:03,090
Uh... mm. No-no.
434
00:17:03,129 --> 00:17:04,689
No-no, I... no,
435
00:17:04,730 --> 00:17:06,209
I'm not falling for this.
436
00:17:06,250 --> 00:17:07,649
There might be a trap.
437
00:17:07,689 --> 00:17:08,849
Mary, is it a trap?
438
00:17:08,889 --> 00:17:10,369
I don't think so.
439
00:17:10,409 --> 00:17:12,050
No one's ever called it that before.
440
00:17:12,090 --> 00:17:13,689
And what if it were
the other way around?
441
00:17:13,730 --> 00:17:15,010
What, like, I grab her ass?
442
00:17:15,050 --> 00:17:16,290
What if she were to grab you?
443
00:17:16,330 --> 00:17:17,490
- Now?
- No!
444
00:17:17,530 --> 00:17:18,530
Whenever you're ready.
445
00:17:18,570 --> 00:17:19,849
Mary, what the fuck?
446
00:17:19,889 --> 00:17:21,649
Isn't someone gonna say something?
447
00:17:21,689 --> 00:17:23,609
Sorry, are we still in the role play?
448
00:17:23,649 --> 00:17:24,730
- Yes.
- No!
449
00:17:24,770 --> 00:17:25,929
I'm really confused.
450
00:17:25,970 --> 00:17:27,449
Great. Are we done?
451
00:17:27,490 --> 00:17:29,129
- Mary, thank you.
- What...
452
00:17:29,169 --> 00:17:31,970
what... are you all just
gonna sit there? Chris!
453
00:17:32,010 --> 00:17:33,449
I'm sorry. I was miles away.
454
00:17:33,490 --> 00:17:36,490
And what Jerry's doing here
is pretending to object.
455
00:17:36,530 --> 00:17:38,449
- No, I'm not.
- Uh, that's really clever.
456
00:17:38,490 --> 00:17:39,770
Why would I do that?
457
00:17:39,810 --> 00:17:42,330
To demonstrate what happens
when someone cries wolf.
458
00:17:42,369 --> 00:17:45,129
I'm not... I'm not crying wolf, OK?
459
00:17:45,169 --> 00:17:46,530
It really happened.
460
00:17:46,570 --> 00:17:48,090
That's exactly what the boy said.
461
00:17:48,129 --> 00:17:50,010
Well, I'm being serious this time.
462
00:17:50,050 --> 00:17:51,530
- He said that, too.
- Oh, I get it.
463
00:17:51,570 --> 00:17:53,810
So, you and Hilary are in cahoots.
464
00:17:53,849 --> 00:17:55,209
- Yes.
- What? No!
465
00:17:55,250 --> 00:17:56,849
Wonderful. A happy finish.
466
00:17:56,889 --> 00:17:59,929
And, of course, the sad thing
about a false accusation is
467
00:17:59,970 --> 00:18:02,609
not only does it make
the individual look stupid
468
00:18:02,649 --> 00:18:04,689
but it also undermines those cases
469
00:18:04,730 --> 00:18:07,770
where someone has
genuinely been harassed.
470
00:18:07,810 --> 00:18:10,689
I have been harassed.
471
00:18:10,730 --> 00:18:12,730
Joseph, when I came back in here,
472
00:18:12,770 --> 00:18:14,730
what's the first thing I said to you?
473
00:18:14,770 --> 00:18:16,169
- Move up.
- No, after that.
474
00:18:16,209 --> 00:18:18,330
Uh, that you think
she's really into you.
475
00:18:18,369 --> 00:18:20,409
- No, not that.
- That you've got syphilis?
476
00:18:20,449 --> 00:18:22,449
- Yeah... no. What?
- Is that what you said?
477
00:18:22,490 --> 00:18:23,490
I must've misheard.
478
00:18:23,530 --> 00:18:25,369
No. No. OK.
479
00:18:25,409 --> 00:18:27,290
I'm genuinely starting to think
480
00:18:27,330 --> 00:18:29,010
that you guys are all in on this.
481
00:18:29,050 --> 00:18:30,570
Well, it is common for men like you
482
00:18:30,609 --> 00:18:31,929
to try and play the victim.
483
00:18:31,970 --> 00:18:34,352
Whoa-whoa-whoa. Did you
just say "men like me"?
484
00:18:34,353 --> 00:18:37,849
What, you don't think men
like me can get harassed?
485
00:18:37,889 --> 00:18:39,810
Well, then you don't
know about the time...
486
00:18:39,849 --> 00:18:41,290
Wonderful. And we're out of it.
487
00:18:41,330 --> 00:18:42,770
- Fantastic.
- Wait... no, no.
488
00:18:42,810 --> 00:18:44,330
you can't... you can't just do that.
489
00:18:44,369 --> 00:18:45,730
And we're back in.
490
00:18:45,770 --> 00:18:47,250
Time's up, I'm afraid, Jerry.
491
00:18:47,290 --> 00:18:49,090
OK. Oh... you know what?
492
00:18:49,129 --> 00:18:50,250
No. You were right.
493
00:18:50,290 --> 00:18:51,530
You do have syphilis?
494
00:18:51,570 --> 00:18:53,330
No. I mean, we're in cahoots.
495
00:18:53,369 --> 00:18:56,689
- Oh.
- Hilary and I have been in cahoots the whole time.
496
00:18:56,730 --> 00:18:59,449
I mean, this whole
thing has been planned.
497
00:18:59,490 --> 00:19:01,209
Her grabbing my junk was planned.
498
00:19:01,250 --> 00:19:04,129
Her grabbing my... my
back thingy was planned.
499
00:19:04,169 --> 00:19:07,530
Um, this... this was
planned right there.
500
00:19:07,570 --> 00:19:09,889
That's planned. Yeah. And this.
501
00:19:09,929 --> 00:19:14,290
This was planned. And this is planned.
502
00:19:14,330 --> 00:19:16,530
And this is planned.
503
00:19:32,609 --> 00:19:34,730
And we're out of it.
504
00:19:52,290 --> 00:19:56,129
No! What? Hi. Yes.
505
00:19:56,169 --> 00:19:57,490
Just so you know,
506
00:19:57,530 --> 00:19:58,970
I won't be pressing charges.
507
00:20:00,889 --> 00:20:03,010
Thank you. Me, neither.
508
00:20:04,409 --> 00:20:08,369
I just have to attend a
3-day anti-harassment course.
509
00:20:08,409 --> 00:20:11,970
Yes, me, too. See you there.
510
00:20:12,010 --> 00:20:13,050
Oh.
511
00:20:19,770 --> 00:20:24,770
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