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Previously on "The Bold Type"...

I think DontTurnAway has potential.

I think I need to commit to it.
Full time.

I love doing this stuff with you.

- Me too.
- We're just friends,

and we happen to make
a great team, that's all.

- Oh, my God.
- Are you okay?

I know how dangerous
substance abuse can be.

And I'm worried about you.

Okay. I'll try therapy.

As I spend more time with Ian

and focus on my personal life,

I will be looking to you to step up.

All right, time for a toast.

Okay, to Jane starting her training

- for editor in chief.
- Mmm.

To Kat's DontTurnAway and
Sutton starting therapy.

- Jane, you're gonna crush the job.
- I hope so.

Speaking of crushing,
there's a human man over there.

I think he might be crushing on Jane.

Oh, no. And besides, tomorrow,

I start doing everything
Jacqueline does.

And I think that's,
like, all I'm ready for,

so... did you just call him over here?

- Can't be rude, Jane.
- Yeah.

He really wants to talk to you.

- Hi.
- Hi.

This is my friend Jane Sloan.
She is currently

"Scarlet" magazine's
interim editor in chief.

- Interim sounds weird.
- Uh, don't listen to them.

No, you should listen to us
because she knows

every sex position that
the magazine has to offer.

Oh, my God. Stop talking.

You know what, enough about Jane.

Tell us about you.

I am your waiter.

Ted's on break.

That's why I was looking over here.

Can I get you anything else?

Everything is delicious. Thank you.

- Yeah, I think we're all set.
- All right.

Oh, my God. I hate you both.

The traction we got last
night on DontTurnAway

is incredible.

I mean, look at these numbers.

I was thinking,
now might be a good time to bring in

more creatives, help us build this.

But I hate asking
people to work for free.

So maybe we should start
talking to VC firms.

I love that idea.

And I hate that I have
to go get ready for work.

You can always quit or get fired.

I'm a pro at that.

I have always wondered
what this feels like.

- I mean, do you do this every day?
- I try to.

It reminds me of what I
need to succeed at this job.

You really have to keep moving forward.

And there are meetings
for everything, marketing,

layout, budget, legal,
not to mention photographers,

advertisers, writers.

It's an uphill climb.

And there's gonna be a
lot of decisions to make

and not a lot of time to make them.

So you have to make the best
one you can and just move on.

Shall we sync our calendars?

- Yes.
- Great.

Wow, that's a... a busy schedule.

Yes. And I want you
with me for all of it.

Who is Dean Forsyth?

He's a very important advertiser
for "Scarlet."

Vice Jewelry.

Well, it says
that you're scheduled to meet

with him tonight but that
it's also your anniversary.

It's not our real anniversary.

It's the anniversary of when we met.

Still, you should celebrate.

Jane, it is your first day of training.

I know. And you will be
with me for most of it.

But you deserve to celebrate
the night that you met Ian.

I can handle Dean Forsyth.

I'll think about it.

Are you ready to go to
your first board meeting?

Yes.

So what brings you here today?

Well, a friend of mine

noticed that I've been drinking a lot.

And...

My mom is an alcoholic,

so... I'm sorry,
I wasn't expecting that.

Um, I guess I'm just...

I'm trying to get ahead
of a potential problem.

It's brave of you to do that.

I've actually been doing really great.

I love my job.
And my friends are amazing.

I am getting divorced.

But I've been through all the stages...

anger, sadness, denial.

I threw a divorce party,

which was actually really helpful.

But you're drinking too much?

A couple of glasses a day.

And I mean, you know,

who doesn't have the occasional
wild night, am I right?

Not as concerned with how much you drink

- as what drives you to drink.
- 'Cause it's fun.

I don't know.

I've never really thought about it.

DontTurnAway is just a hashtag now,

but we are looking to
build a multimedia platform

with podcasts,

provocative photographs, and features

exposing injustices all
throughout the world.

Great. Where can I see it?

The site is not operational yet.

But with the right funding, it could...

To invest,
we need a more detailed pitch.

Get that done and we'll talk.

Absolutely. I will call you back then.

Okay. Let's see what we have next.

Dinner with Frankie
Williams tomorrow night?

- How you holdin' up?
- Good.

Um...

You get invited to a
lot of awesome stuff.

I'm guessing you are a
Frankie Williams fan.

I love her.

I... I was devastated
when she stopped singing.

I know.
Speaking of living a balanced life,

I think I'm gonna take
you up on your offer.

Ian and I are gonna go
out to dinner tonight

to celebrate when we met.

- Oh, great.
- Mm-hmm.

So that means I...
I will meet with Dean Forsyth.

Are you sure you're okay with that?

- Yeah. Absolutely.
- Good.

And there is one more thing
that we should do today.

Come with me.

Hello, everyone. Hello, hello.

This week, I will be taking a
backseat as head of "Scarlet"

so that Jane can train and
be ready to fill in for me

when I go on vacation. So starting now,

I'd like you all to think
of Jane as editor in chief.

Come to her with questions or concerns

that you may have as if she is me.

Got it?

- Got it.
- Great. Thank you.

Thank you.

Sutton, tell me about when you drink.

We're usually celebrating a new job,

orgasm, great one-liner.

We toast a lot, now that I think of it.

You can toast without alcohol.

It's not that fun though.

Sometimes, we copy the things
we hate most about our parents.

Sort of a self-sabotage.

Mmm, yeah, I get that.
No, that's not me though.

I mean, my mom couldn't
even hold a normal job.

Excuse me.
I need to get this. It might be work.

Oh, my God.

Is everything okay?

It's... it's Richard,
my husband or ex-husband.

I... I haven't spoken to him
since he left the apartment.

Let me give you a minute.

Hello?

- Sutton. Hi.
- Hi.

- Wasn't sure you'd answer.
- Yeah.

I wasn't sure that I would either.

Listen, before you say anything,

I want to apologize for sending Dev

to tell you about the divorce.

You didn't deserve that,
and it was really shitty.

Yeah. It was.

But I'm okay now.

So there is no easy way to say this,

but I have the divorce papers with me,

and I'm in town and
thought maybe we could meet

in person today, if that's okay.

Today?

Hey, Jane.
Can I bounce some ideas off of you?

I have so much to write.

That's great. I would love to help.

But I have a meeting in five minutes.

I'll talk to Andrew
and we'll set a time.

- Okay, thank you.
- Jane.

These are fresh from the photo studio

and need your approval ASAP.

- They're great.
- No, Jane.

I need you to choose one.

- That one is beautiful.
- Mmm.

- I... I meant the other one.
- There you go.

Thanks, "Jacqueline."

Hey, Andrew. I need you to schedule
a time for me to meet with Sage.

And also, has Jacqueline confirmed

for tonight's charity dinner
with Frankie Williams?

Uh, yes to Sage and no to Frankie.

She doesn't really have
time for that stuff.

Okay, well, since I'm Jacqueline,

I can go in her place.

Okay, sure.

Look, I know Frankie's
not doing press right now,

but she has a really incredible story.

And I could help her tell it.

I don't doubt that, Jane,

but you have a recap with Social.

You still have your vertical to run.

You just asked me to schedule
a time for you and Sage.

And oh, there's Mr. Forsyth.

Everything you need to
know about Vice Jewelry

is in this binder.

Vice Jewelry, that's the
company Mr. Forsyth represents.

Yeah. I know.

And I'm still gonna
try to get that story.

And be Jacqueline.

We'll see about that.

- Hey.
- Hey. How did it go?

It was good. And then Richard called.

- What?
- Read that binder.

Jacqueline doesn't socialize.

Okay. I really have to pee.

And if you come with me,

I might have a chance to catch up.

So the bathroom is the
new fashion closet, huh?

Yeah. Pretty much.

So to get funding, what we need

- is a kickass pitch doc...
- Mm-hmm.

...that sells exactly
what our magazine is.

You know, potential advertisers,

content, target audience,
overall look and feel.

Okay, well,

I happen to know a graphic
genius who's available tonight.

- Oh, a genius?
- Mmm. Mm-hmm.

But maybe we work at your place?

Aw, you miss our three
girls-in-a-one-bedroom energy?

Yes. Oh, yes.

- Yeah.
- Kat.

- Jacqueline, hi.
- Hi!

It is so nice to see the
two of you together again.

- Oh, no.
- No, no, no, we're not, uh...

Yeah, we're not, like, "together"
together. We're just working together...

- Mm-hmm.
- On a project...

actually, a magazine based
on an installation we did.

- DontTurnAway, right?
- Yeah.

I read about it in "The Cut."

- Oh.
- Really very impressive.

Oh, thanks.

We're... we're excited.
We're gonna expand on the idea.

Actually, we're working
on a pitch right now

to see if we can get some funding.

Ah, yes,
a difficult but crucial first step.

Well, I know
what those people are looking for,

so if you want advice or
want to run something by me,

you know where to find me.

- I will, yeah.
- Okay.

- I'll see you upstairs.
- Yeah.

What?

I mean, you're gonna take her up
on that, aren't you?

I... I think she was probably
just saying that to be nice.

No, Kat. She wasn't just being nice.

She was being Jacqueline.

And Jacqueline knows a lot
about building a magazine.

Okay. I'll talk to her.

- Okay.
- I will.

Thank you.

Honey, you chose Jane

to cover you on our trip for a reason.

I know. I know.
But what if she needs my help?

If she's ever gonna learn
how to be editor in chief,

she's got to do it alone.

We deserve this. And so does Jane.

Uh, Jacqueline is going to be...

Okay.

- Okay.
- Okay. Okay.

You're that girl
from The Feminist, right?

The Failing Feminist, yes.

I heard your speech about
taking responsibility.

I'd like you to take responsibility

about my shitty ad placement
and reduce my rate my 30%.

Uh, well,
let me take a look at the numbers,

and I will get back to you
by the end of the week.

No. You'll get back to me by tomorrow.

Tell Jacqueline I say hello

and that I'm ready
to pull Vice from "Scarlet."

Thank you so much. I'm so excited.

Yeah. You too.

- Hey.
- Sutton, hey.

Wow, you look incredible. Mmm.

Hi.

- All right, sit.
- Okay.

Here, I'll help you with that.

Wow. Thanks.

So how have you been?

- That's a loaded question.
- Yeah.

Work is good, and, you know,

friends are good.

Marriage...

Yeah.

I ordered your favorite pinot.

Thanks.

So how long are you in town for?

I'm not sure actually.
Some meetings came up.

Good ones.

- Oh.
- Should be interesting.

Oh! A pipe burst at the apartment,
flooded the entire bedroom.

- Oh, no.
- Yeah.

That's why I'm staying at the Waldorf.

- Oh.
- It's nice here.

But it's not home.

What do you say we get
this part out of the way

- so we can enjoy our meal?
- Yeah.

Take as much time as
you want with these.

Seriously, whatever you need to do.

Thanks.

Well, I feel like pasta. How about you?

You know what, I'm good just with this.

Hey.

Well, that day was insanity.

Adena is coming over with Chinese.

You want something?

I cannot make any more decisions today.

- All right, we'll get you lo mein.
- Ah, thank you.

- So insanity?
- Yeah.

I had to hold my pee for three hours

because I didn't have time
to go to the bathroom.

- Mmm.
- And layout meetings

do not need to be that long.

Like, give me three options,
I will choose one.

I don't need to know how you got there

or what you did before to get there.

- What?
- Jane, look at you.

You are thriving, baby.

You are juggling budgets and
board members and art departments.

And you are doing it with so much flair.

I think it's really exciting,
and you should soak it in.

But what about the fact
that I want to interview

Frankie Williams

and Andrew says that I'll
never have enough time?

I mean, do I soak that in?

Or what about the fact that
the ad buyer for Vice Jewelry,

he condescendingly called me "girl"?

What? Girl?

And I basically had to beg him to stay

in the conference room and talk to me.

All right, look, first of all,

if you really want the
interview with Frankie,

I know you can get it

'cause I know how much she means to you.

I mean, she was basically on loop

throughout your entire recovery process.

And as for Mr. Vice,
he's lucky it was you.

Your vertical would be perfect for them.

They have that new line
of conflict-free diamonds

and then those anti-"love bracelets"

that stay open instead of locked.

- You are a genius.
- I am?

- Yeah. You just gave me a great idea.
- Oh.

You could have nailed
that Jacqueline meeting.

- Hey.
- Well, I just saw Richard.

- He seems happy.
- What do you mean happy?

I don't know. He was smiling.

And he ate an entire bowl of pasta.

I mean, who can eat
an entire bowl of pasta

in front of the love of their life

that they're about to divorce?

Well, I mean,
have you ever heard of stress eating?

It didn't feel like that.

I want him to be happy, but I mean,

am I that easy to move on from?

- No.
- Absolutely not.

Also, I had wine.

And I don't want to talk about it, so...

Well, Adena is bringing over lo mein.

And I will share mine with you.

- Really?
- Mm-hmm.

Thanks.

You miss me already?

I do actually. That was fun last night.

- It was.
- Everything go okay with Jane?

Well, I mean, she said Dean was tough,

but she assures me she has
everything under control, so...

Oh, look at that. She's flying.

I hope so because last night was fun.

And we should do that more often.

Definitely.

I got to go. Okay. Bye.

Kat, come in.
I'm excited to hear your pitch.

Thanks.

Good morning, Mr. Forsyth.

- Good morning.
- Great to see you.

- Is this my new rate?
- Oh.

Um, actually,
I can't renegotiate your rate.

- Well, then we're done here.
- Wait, I have a pitch.

You heard me talk about
The Failing Feminist

at the conference.

And since then, we have received funding

from more verticals, which is where

I think Vice Jewelry should
advertise exclusively

and not "Scarlet" proper.

Our readers are young. And yes, so am I.

But that's what you want.

The same way Black Lives Matter

started as a Facebook post
and morphed into a movement,

we see that for DontTurnAway.

Except in this case,
it's an interactive magazine

that sheds light on the important issues

that society overlooks
with message boards,

event organizing, video content.

You want people who are
starting their lives,

who are building a collection
of jewelry for birthdays,

weddings, anniversaries, push presents.

A push present is a gift that
you get for pushing out a baby.

Don't worry about it. My point is,

I will personally be involved
in your account going forward.

And I will make sure that
you keep getting the traffic

that you need to justify
your current ad rate.

Okay. Let's do it.

Great. Oh, don't worry about it.

I'll have legal come down.
Save you a trip.

It's storytelling meets activism.

And we can't wait to get started.

I know, it's a... it's a big swing.

No, no, no. This is very impressive.

Very timely.

And thanks to you,
RJ is a distant memory.

So what if we bring DontTurnAway
into "Scarlet"?

Um,

I'm... I'm sorry?

Social activism has become
so important to our readers.

And you have created a call to action

that makes people accountable
and demands change.

And if you make this
a part of "Scarlet,"

you have your budget,
marketing infrastructure,

access to our 6.2 million readers.

So you're saying that DontTurnAway

could be a vertical?

I think it could be, yes.

Wow.

Wow.

Is it okay if I, you know,

take some time to think it over?

I would be disappointed if you didn't.

I had a drink.

Not at first,

but he was happier than I expected.

I was expecting him to be devastated.

And the fact that he wasn't?

It made me sad.

I guess, I...

I mean, I...

There is no judgment here.

Seeing him happy reminded me
of how I felt when I was a kid.

With your mom?

My dad actually.

He left when I was young.

And I just remember, like,
when he would come back,

he had this whole other life.

I didn't think about it until right now.

But I... I feel like...

it made me feel like I wasn't enough,

like my dad was happier somewhere else.

Is it weird that

my husband is bringing up stuff...

old stuff with my dad?

Not at all.

Well, you said no judgment,
so I'll just say it.

I really wish

that I could have a shot
of tequila right now.

Why?

So that I wouldn't have to...

feel the pain or...

The fear of not being enough,
just all of it.

So you drink to stop yourself

from feeling the things
that hurt the most.

I guess so.

And now that you know why you drink,

the real work begins.

Come in.

- Hey.
- Hey.

So how'd it go?

Um...

Uh, Jacqueline wants to bring
DontTurnAway into "Scarlet."

What? Oh, my God.

Kat, this is... this is amazing.
Are you serious?

Yeah. I don't think I can do it.

Okay. Um, why?

Because DontTurnAway is our thing.

Yeah. It could still be our thing.

Well, not if we're working
for a corporation.

Well, what do you think a VC firm is?

No, no. That's different.

A VC firm contributes to your success.

A corporation owns it.

And I just...
I just feel really claustrophobic,

and I think that's a
sign that I can't do it.

Or maybe it's a sign that you
hate the idea of commitment?

I mean, commitment's
not my favorite thing

in the world, but...

Look, DontTurnAway is
going to be a huge success

no matter what.

I mean, I just...
I wouldn't want you to walk away

because you're afraid of losing control.

And Jacqueline is... she's not RJ.

And maybe you can find a way to commit

and still make it your own.

If you want to.

- You summoned?
- Yes.

I want you to clear my
schedule because I am going

to the charity dinner
to woo Frankie Williams.

Okay. Well, you still have some proofs
in your email that you need to check.

And Sage still needs to run
some ideas by you, so...

Okay. Um, well,
I will call Sage on the way to dinner,

and then I will check the
proofs when I get home

because I am the boss,
and I can do what I want.

- Yes.
- You know what?

Since Jacqueline is
gone and I'm leaving,

you are free to go home too.

Oh, well, I will not argue with that.

- Have a good night.
- Jane. Luna is having a meltdown

because the photographer
didn't recognize her.

- Who?
- Luna Gilmore from that

high school show about musicals...
or singing?

Anyway, I'm at the end of my
rope with these prima donnas.

Jacqueline usually steps
in when it gets like this,

and we're wasting precious time.

And money. And my patience.

Um. Okay.

- Um, I... I will handle it.
- Bless you.

Make sure to bring tissue and gummies.

But only the red ones.

Wait, gummies?

God, I'm gonna be so late.

Andrew? I just told him to leave.

Okay.

Excuse me, the lounge is closed.

No, it's not. I see people
listening to Frankie Williams.

Yes, but those are VIP guests.

What are you, like,
a bodyguard or something?

Oh, you are.

Um, are you Frankie's bodyguard?

- I'm gonna need you to leave.
- No, no, no, no, no.

Okay, so I actually was
supposed to be sitting at

Frankie's table for this charity event.

But I got stuck at work,
something about tissues

and gummies. It was a whole thing.

Anyways, my name is Jane Sloan,
I work for "Scarlet" magazine.

And I would really love
to interview Frankie.

Well, if you work at "Scarlet,"

you know that Frankie doesn't do press.

I do know that. But if you
would just let me talk to her...

Do you need me to escort you out?

No.

Fine. I will just have
a drink over there.

- Hey, baby.
- Hey.

Want me to sit with you while you sign?

Yeah. There's something I
need to do first though.

Oh, um. Wait, it's kind of expensive.

No, no. You're good.
You're great. Go ahead.

I'm not gonna be afraid anymore.

I'm proud of you.

Come on.

You're inspiring, you know that?

Thanks.

Well, I signed the divorce papers.

Oh, and I know
what I'm gonna tell Jacqueline

about DontTurnAway.

We love you.

Don't come home without
that Frankie interview.

Okay. So I know you already said no.

That is still my answer.

Okay, fine.

Guess I'm just gonna have
to sit here all night

and bother you.

Oh, you're a Marine.

- Infantry.
- So you were a Marine Corps...

Officer. Two tours in Afghanistan.

Hmm. And now you're a bodyguard.

Part time.
I'm also studying law at night school.

Oh.

Excuse me.

Oh.

Yes, Johannesburg's fine.

I can fly his plane if he prefers.

I'm finished here in two days,
then at the UN on the 24th.

Yes, sir.

The UN.

- And you fly planes.
- I am a man of many talents.

Clearly.

So how long have you been a bodyguard?

Long enough to know
that you're stalling.

Actually, I'm not.

Since you won't let
me interview Frankie,

what if I interview you?

You want to interview me?

I mean, come on,

you clearly have a fascinating life,

and I'd like to know more.

What would I say in an interview?

Whatever you want.

It's just talking like
we're doing right now.

And if you don't like how it turns out,
I won't run it.

Okay.

- But if Frankie needs me...
- We stop immediately.

And then I'll just see if
I can get that interview.

Not gonna happen.

Listen, there are a few things

that we should talk about, you know,

a few things I need in order
to make this work for me.

All right, well, let's hear 'em,

and I'll see what I can do.

I need creative control of DontTurnAway.

The vision is very personal to me and...

Understood. Full creative control.

I also want to hire
formerly-incarcerated people

to work on the website...

photographers, art directors, writers.

I think DontTurnAway should
be more than just a vertical.

I think it should be a full
"Scarlet" initiative

with a big press push.

Hmm.

What about a launch party with
all of the major press outlets?

Yeah, that sounds great.
I could do that.

Great.

Here is a preliminary
budget for you to look over.

And I would like to announce the launch

by the end of the week?

Is this... this is our budget?

It is.

- Wow.
- Yes, it's a lot of money.

Now it's time to make the
corporation work for you.

Yeah. Um...

I will.

Congratulations.

Um, thank you.

You're welcome.

- Is Katherine back?
- She is.

And I have this gut feeling
that she is really gonna be

an asset to the future of "Scarlet."

Those three are gonna
run this place one day.

Yeah, they are.

Oh, it's actually a strange feeling.

What is?

Well, Jane is ready.

You know, I... I want her to be ready.

I've spent years getting her ready.

But she is now.

And I don't know,

maybe there's a part of me that...

is ready too.

What are you saying?

Maybe my vacation with
Ian isn't a vacation.

Maybe it's...

the beginning of a new chapter together.

Hmm.

Oh.

- Oh.
- Ian, Ducks.

I was just talking about you.
Um, you know what?

Let me... let me close
my office door for a sec.

It's open.

How was your day?

Did you hear back from any VC firms?

Kat?

I took the "Scarlet" offer.

Oh, my God! So DontTurnAway is now...

Now under the "Scarlet" umbrella.

6 million followers,

and our budget is insane.

Kat, this is amazing.

What made you change your mind?

Well, I mean, you were right.

I was afraid that
if I committed to "Scarlet,"

then I would lose control.

So I went in there,

laid out all the things I needed

to make sure that didn't happen.

And Jacqueline said yes to all of it.

Oh, my God.

Can you just think about

how many people you're
gonna be able to help now?

Oh. All the people we're gonna help.

Wow.

I would never have gotten
this far without you.

I'm always better with you.

- Hey.
- Hi.

Thanks for meeting me.
I have the papers.

Okay.

Something I just want to talk
about first, if that's okay.

Um...

When I saw you the other day...

you seemed really happy.

And I want you to be happy.
Like, I really... I really do.

But it also made me feel
kind of bad, you know?

I don't know, that we weren't...

that I wasn't...

I don't know.

That maybe you're happier without me.

Wow. It probably sounds,
like, really pathetic.

No, it doesn't.

But I'm glad you said something.

I seemed happy because I had
just gotten off the phone

with an adoption agency

and I decided to start the process.

- Wow.
- Yeah.

I mean, it... it's really early

and there are interviews
and character references

and so many things I
don't even know about yet.

That's really great.

Sutton,

I will never, ever

think that what we had
was anything but...

incredible.

I love you.

And I will always love you.

And every day still sucks.

It sucks so bad.

I miss you.

I miss you too.

Last woman standing.

Yeah. Um, I... I tried to interview

Frankie Williams,
but I couldn't get to her,

so I wound up talking to
her bodyguard for a while.

And he was really interesting.

And I don't think I
thought he was going to be.

So now I'm writing a
piece about feminists

and our preconceived notions
about the men we meet.

- Sounds interesting.
- Yeah.

Have you had dinner yet?

What time is it? I... I lost track.

Spoken like a true writer.

Well, it's late. So you should eat.

I will as soon as I finish this.
I promise.

Well, I know how focused you
get when you're writing, so...

so this will only take a minute.

"Scarlet" has...

been my... my baby

for a really long time now.

And just like all children,
we raise them knowing

that some day,

they will fly

with somebody else.

After my trip,

I am...

officially retiring from
"Scarlet" magazine.

Ian and I are starting a new chapter.

We've always wanted to work together,

and so we felt like this was the...
the right time.

Uh...

But, Jacqueline, I mean, uh,

"Scarlet" is you.

But it won't be forever.

Jane,

I want you to take the
reins as editor in chief.

What?

Me?

Do you accept?

Yes. Yes.

I... I have been dreaming
of this my whole life.

Oh, wow.

You're gonna be great.

Yeah. Because of you.

Oh, my God.

Wow. Thank you.

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