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I can turn that down a little if you want.
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Over the last 50 years, one black box has, probably more than anything
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else, come to define the sound of rock - the Marshall amplifier.
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It's been behind some of the biggest names in rock history, literally.
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From the most humble beginnings, it caused nothing less than
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a musical revolution - giving the guitar a new voice.
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And behind it all lay a man the rock world is lining up to celebrate.
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Known in the music business as the Father of Loud,
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his name was Jim Marshall.
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The brand he created is now virtually synonymous with
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the sound of rock, and one of the most successful in musical history.
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But Jim's long
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and colourful life started a long way from stadium stages.
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50 years ago, in a shop in West London, Jim spotted a new
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trend in music that would, in time, take over the world.
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And he capitalised on it, spectacularly.
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In doing so, he helped create a sound that revolutionised
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the electric guitar.
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And a volume that meant guitarists could step out of the shadows
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and take their place centre stage in the biggest venues.
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It became the standard of rock'n'roll.
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There is no amplifier that can touch it.
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It was a fabulous sound and suddenly guitars were no longer polite.
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When this thing came out,
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there wasn't any limit to the volume you could get out of it.
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It was like, if you didn't have a Marshall, you weren't cool.
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Listen, I've always liked Marshall amps, so I used them,
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and I've used them ever since.
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# I can't explain... #
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The wanted loud, they wanted distorted.
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Marshall is a symbol of the rise of British rock.
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That was what it was all about. Marshall stacks.
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Though now a global enterprise,
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the Marshall business started off as a cottage industry.
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And the beginnings of the amp's history are still clearly
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remembered in the modern business.
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Phil Wells is head of Marshall's Heritage and Archive
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and has worked here for over 35 years.
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When I started all those years ago, Jim used to spend the morning
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covering in the covering department and then the afternoon
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he would do his normal business side of the company.
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And he did that for probably for 18 months to two years
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when I first started here.
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The reason why our units are now signed was because of Jim,
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mainly because when he was covering -
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if one was badly covered, everybody else would blame Jim.
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So he said, "From now on, everybody signs their unit
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"then whoever has badly covered it, I won't get the blame."
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There's always been something fundamental
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about the Marshall sound.
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And whatever amp there is, whether it's one of the small
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practice amps, right through to the big valve stuff and the stacks,
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you know, they all have something within them and that kind of stems
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from the beginning where, back in the '60s,
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when Jim started the company.
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Jim...Jim is a great character.
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He could roll up his sleeves,
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he could go on to the bench and he could show the people what to do.
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And he understood the works, the mechanics of the company.
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To the point that he used to open the post.
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It's a strange thing for the owner of a company to do,
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to open the post, but by opening the post, you understand the ethos
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and what's going on in the company just from that one small task.
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And that was Jim, he did everything.
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Jim, though, also enjoyed life at the top.
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His success not only brought him fame, but also fortune.
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Not to mention a deep respect from the industry that he loved.
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His was an empire built on sheer hard work and grit.
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Jim's single mindedness probably had its roots in his childhood.
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As a young boy, he endured years in hospital, cocooned in plaster,
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suffering from a terrible condition called tubercular bones.
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Finally, aged 13, he was set free.
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His father suggested that tap dancing might help build his bones.
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It was a suggestion that would change his life. He found rhythm.
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This was the era of the big band.
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The glamour and energy of the sound drew him to the drums,
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he was a natural.
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Jim was a really good musician and he was a fine drummer
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and he could also sing and do both at the same time.
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And he was so good that a lot of students would ask him
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if he could teach them to play the drums
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because he was doing such a good job in the dance bands of the era.
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In the late '40s, early '50s, I had a following of youngsters
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everywhere I appeared and eventually I was being chased to teach.
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Firstly, I thought I would not like teaching
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and I kept saying, "No, I'm not interested in being a teacher."
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But then I gave in to two pupils
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and found that I liked teaching.
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Young hopefuls would make their way to Jim's unimposing
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semi in deepest West London.
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I saw an advert for Jim Marshall drum tuition and he sat me
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behind a drum kit and then said, "Right, go on, have a go."
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My connection with Jim started, and John Entwistle's started,
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very, very early. We were 12,
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and we were in a jazz band.
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We used to be called The Confederates.
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And our drummer was Chris Sherwin.
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Jim's teaching was phenomenal.
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I thought he was wonderful as a teacher.
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Every rehearsal, at the end, Chris would close by showing us
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his latest drum lesson.
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Chris used to go completely mad.
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HE MIMICS DRUMMING
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Now I didn't see that again until Keith Moon walked on the stage
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but Chris was doing this, you know, when we were 12.
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MUSIC: Take The A Train by Duke Ellington
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Taking us to see bands, particularly the American bands,
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was just phenomenal.
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Buddy Rich, Count Basie, Duke Ellington.
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I had massive respect for Jim
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because he knew what was what at that time and I didn't.
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At the most, I had 64 pupils in a week,
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which meant that was 64 hours teaching a week.
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With a considerable teaching income,
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Jim was able to quit life on the road.
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# The warden threw a party in the county jail... #
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Jim's younger students began to talk about an exciting,
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new, American music.
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# You should've heard those knocked out jailbirds sing
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# Let's rock
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# Everybody, let's rock... #
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The glimpses of rock'n'roll that we were getting at that moment
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were so occasional that it needed a sort of home-grown movement.
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# Mama don't allow no skiffle... #
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Skiffle was incredibly important.
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In one sense, it was almost the punk rock of its time.
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It was basically - find a cheap guitar,
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three chords and you were off.
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# Mama don't allow no skiffle... #
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You know the old tea chests with a stick, a broomstick on it
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and a bit of string and that was our bass
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and we bought a couple of acoustic guitars, no amps, and we were off.
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Despite the austerity, you begin to sense, you know,
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this new generation coming through.
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Kids raced to form rock'n'roll bands
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and their influences were all American.
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After Lonnie Donegan and the skiffle craze, people that picked up
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a guitar and stayed with it
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obviously ventured into rock'n'roll.
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And the good thing about it was there were lots of places to play.
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We used play down the 2i's, that's where Marty Wilde saw me.
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And Marty said, "You've got to have your hair dyed blonde."
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So I thought about that for all of a second and a half.
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But only the most well-heeled of Britain's rock'n'rollers
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could afford the shiny guitars and amps of their American heroes.
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Buddy Holly was playing a Fender Stratocaster in 1950.
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About '57.
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So we were all looking at that and, of course, wanted one.
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We just wanted to be rock'n'roll stars, you know.
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# It didn't take a lifetime... #
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What we were really doing with our things was playing catch-up
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with the Americans. And that included our instruments as well
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because you couldn't get Gibson guitars or Fender guitars.
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But amp-wise, it was a nightmare, really.
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There were some people that made them, like Charlie Watkins
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made amps, and some of the amps he made were really good.
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GUITAR PLAYS
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We wanted to hear the sound that was beginning to come from guitars.
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They could hold a note on.
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The Watkins Westminster was one of Britain's first guitar amps,
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and Charlie had discovered a secret.
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I thought, that's it, get rid of that bloody hi-fi.
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We don't want hi-fi, we want distortion.
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# What have I done to make you blue? I'll be... #
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As British rock'n'roll gathered momentum,
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their amplification was lagging far behind.
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There was nothing above sort of ten watts
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because they were all little, tiny...
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they were make-do amplifiers.
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They weren't proper guitar amps.
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I actually did a gig at a wedding where I plugged
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into a Dansette record player, undid the wires from the pick-up.
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That was the sort of things we were up to.
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Yeah, I mean this, you can get a sound out of it fine,
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but take it to a hall and see what it sounds like, you know.
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What can you do with a soppy little ten-inch speaker, I ask you?
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You can't do anything with it.
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We did the best with what we had at hand.
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The kind of amplifiers that we were using, that everybody started using,
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everybody, including the Beatles,
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were the amplifiers used by the Shadows.
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By the late '50s, the famous Vox amplifier had arrived.
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In those days, the Vox amp really was the king amp.
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That was the amp. That's the only one you could hear
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because all these other little ones, you just couldn't hear 'em.
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Well, Vox were the first of the great British amplifier
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manufacturers and their pride and joy was the,
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still legendary to this day, Vox AC30.
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I managed to acquire myself a Vox AC15 then, which was amazing.
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And they all had AC30s so I really did feel like the new boy, you know.
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You know, that was the sound from the '50s, the twang of guitars,
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The Shadows, the first records I bought.
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Wonderful though they were,
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I always had a feeling that there
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was a beast that was waiting to be unleashed.
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MUSIC: Boom Boom by John Lee Hooker
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The guy that blew me away when I first heard him was John Lee Hooker.
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# Gonna shoot you right down... #
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And I got one of his very early albums
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and there was a track on there called The Devil's Jump.
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We've got The Devil's Jump, man.
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He had this idea to put the microphone inside the guitar,
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restring the guitar, then do the song that way,
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singing into the guitar.
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# The Devil's Jump
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# I Got the... #
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And it was this incredible distorted noise.
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This is like 1949,
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so, you know,
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we can't claim to have invented distortion.
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The thing the guitarist wants is something else.
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You know, he really doesn't want the cleanest guitar sound
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in the world or we'd all would sound like the soundtrack to Bonanza.
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Edgier guitar tones began to interest the eccentric
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British music producer, Joe Meek.
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I think Joe Meek was the first to explore that distorted,
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heavier, trebly guitar sound.
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Drummer Mick Underwood was summoned to Meek's strange little
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studio in the Holloway Road.
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It's a bit over the top. It went a bit weird.
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Joe, Joe Meek says, "Come up and see us."
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He said, "The Outlaws need a drummer."
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So I went there and had a jam with them
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and they said, "The thing is, we do need a guitarist."
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And I said, "I think I know the man."
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17-year-old Ritchie Blackmore joined the Outlaws
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and the Meek sound turned wild.
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John Peel later called Shake With Me the first heavy metal record.
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Rhythm and blues became the sound of the moment
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and there was only one way music was heading.
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An arms race began to develop.
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Could the guitar player be able to make more noise than
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A - the drummer, and B - the audience.
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Everybody wanted to be loud and louder, everybody.
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What did we want to be as loud as?
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We wanted to be as loud as the drums.
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Back at the drum studio, Jim's pupils were constantly pressing him
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for help in buying their first drum kit.
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I used to take all of the pupils to a shop called
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Lou Davis in Charing Cross Road, London.
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One day the manager said to me,
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"Well you're a damn fool, why don't you open your own drum store?"
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Jim's first shop opened in Hanwell, West London, in July 1960.
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And his teenage son, Terry, made it a family business.
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So we opened it as a music shop but it had a concentration of drums
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and the guitar side was very minimal.
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Well, having taught so many of the top drummers,
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they brought their groups in with them. I'd known Pete Townshend
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for many years, because I used to play with Pete's father.
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And all of the drummers would come by and say,
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"Why you don't stock guitars?
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"Because every drummer needs a guitar player and other musicians
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"to go along with." And so he started to stock guitars.
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There'd be a few bashed up drum kits in there and a few mediocre guitars.
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But if you wanted to hear what was going on in the business,
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you went to Marshall's.
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Oh, Jim was a lovely person. He was a very happy-go-lucky sort of guy
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and he let us guys go in to his shop
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and sit around and play anything on the wall.
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He didn't worry that you weren't buying anything.
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We just used to hang out there and it was like
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a Labour Exchange for up-and-coming rock musicians, you know.
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For me, when I think about Jim's shop, it was a meeting place,
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a place to go with ideas, where you know you would get listened to.
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And some of my ideas, the guys in my band wouldn't listen to them.
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There were sorts of musicians went to Jim's shop, from every aspect,
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rock'n'roll, jazz, you name it,
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and it was a great learning curve for everybody.
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Good for everyone, that.
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Then you had Ted's cafe a couple of doors away.
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# 40 cups of coffee... #
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Or if you wanted something a bit more refined, you'd cross
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the road to the Rendezvous. And it was just a whole social scene.
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We were unique really
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because he had such a vision about customer service.
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The shop just exploded
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and we were in the right place at the right time.
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And while we were in there we used to say,
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"Do you know, we couldn't half do with amplifiers.
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"You don't do amplifiers, do you?"
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One of Jim's regular customers was band manager
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and electronic experimenter Ken Bran.
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# And go like this... #
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He knew that I was interested in building amplifiers,
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the sound of amplifiers.
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Ken began working for Jim.
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This was a partnership that would last the next 40 years.
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He always had this brown coat on, you know,
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like Ronnie Barker in the shop.
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All the kids wanted a lot more power
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and the only amp that was really around was the Fender Bassman.
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HE PLAYS GUITAR RIFF
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The Bassman was designed for bass guitar really,
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but the guitarists found that it gave a real crisp live sound.
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The Fender amps were fine sounding amplifiers but they tended to,
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they didn't... A - they didn't distort,
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they had a very clean kind of surf music sound.
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One of the guys who worked in the store had one
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and he brought it in for Ken to have a look at.
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We had a really good look at it to see what made it tick.
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Ken discovered the Bassman used a standard circuit design that
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was widely used and without any patent restrictions.
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Jim seized the opportunity.
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He decided there and then
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that he was going to build a rock'n'roll amplifier.
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I said, "Well, if you're capable, Ken, let's have a go at it."
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With no access to American components, Ken was forced to
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trawl London's army surplus shops for parts.
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A crucial element of the Marshall sound came about
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because they couldn't get the same valves that Fender had been using,
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so they found another one that did sort of the same job.
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The sound that it produced wasn't like a Fender amp,
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but on its own terms, it worked brilliantly.
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The first amplifier was taking shape. But Ken needed help.
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I was a repairman, but we needed a designer,
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and Jim got hold of this young whiz kid called Dudley Craven.
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The 19-year-old Dudley Craven was lured from an apprenticeship
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at EMI on the promise of big money.
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We then took it out the basic chassis, brought
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in Pete Townshend and a couple of other guys and said, "Crank it up."
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When I first heard Jim's amplifier,
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I felt it was almost loud enough
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but it didn't have the zing of a Fender amp
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so I kind of chucked it back at him.
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We put it in the shop and let the guitarists play with it
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and we would know whether we were getting near the sound or not.
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And Pete would say, "I need more growl in this."
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I wanted distortion that was happening in the amplifier,
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not in the speaker, but in the amplifier.
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Eventually, he came up with a sound and I said, "Ah, that's the sort of
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"sound the boys have been talking to me about in the shop."
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And that's how the Marshall sound was born.
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That was it. Pete said, "I want it."
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It wasn't just a loud amplifier,
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it was an amplifier that would fold in distortion.
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BLUES MUSIC PLAYS
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Electronic engineers always want to get rid of distortion,
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but we knew that that was the sound we wanted.
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Ken Bran was willing to make what every other amplifier
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maker in the world would have called a bad amplifier.
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Well, what it says is that Jim, Ken and Dudley Craven,
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when they put the unit together, designed it and built it,
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they got it right first time.
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Number One has survived
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and is now one of the most revered relics of rock.
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We've had a couple of blank cheque offers.
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We've had a couple of really silly offers for it,
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but it's the beginning of Marshall.
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Jim and Ken were now ready to unveil their creation.
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On the first Saturday, when we put the chassis in the shop,
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I think we sold 25 units the first day.
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While the inspiration was very clearly from Fender, what
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ended up coming out of the shop at that point, one way or another -
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by design, by accident, through necessity or what have you -
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ended up being quite different.
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All of a sudden, there is this monster 50-watt amp
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with four speakers. Even eclipsed the Fenders.
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Christened the JTM 45 after Jim and Terry Marshall,
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it was the loudest guitar amplifier in the world.
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Jim was selling these amps like hot cakes
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and I was the only one there to build them.
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With little room in Ken's workshop, Dudley started a production line
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with his old school friend, Ken Flegg.
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And a cottage industry began.
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Well, in actual fact, I made them in my bedroom, the ones that I did.
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He had a very small shed that he used to do his part of the work with.
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We had only just started at technical college, so
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our knowledge was extremely limited and we used to wing most of it.
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As the business exploded, Jim took production to their first factory.
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Even with more staff, it was now all hands on deck.
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My father used to do covering
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and my mum was gluing up for my dad to do covering.
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There was a good team spirit
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and a willingness to make the product work.
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They would make these through the week, sell them on a Friday
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and Saturday and then the money they made from that, they'd make
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the ones for the next week. So it was hand to mouth, if you like.
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We needed cash flow, the retail shop supported quite often
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the factory in the early days.
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Ken struggled to source parts
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and build the amps fast enough as the sales began to clock up.
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Well the best way to market any piece of musical equipment is
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to have it used by people who sound great and also to have a
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bloody huge logo on the front of it, so, you know, even at the back
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of the room, people can see what these guys are sounding great with.
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Jim said, "We're going to be producing amps from now on.
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"Good amplifiers, do you want to have a go?"
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The Tremeloes gave up their Fenders and moved to Marshall.
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Soon to be followed by the Nashville Teens
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and top American star Roy Orbison.
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It was the amplifier that sold it.
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How it was put together
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and what it sounded like that sold the amplifier.
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It was only very quickly that Jim's name, Marshall,
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became synonymous with that style of music.
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GUITAR PLAYS ROCK MUSIC
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When this thing came out,
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there wasn't any limit to the volume you could get out of them.
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# Can't explain
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# I think it's love... #
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Pete Townshend and John Entwistle were the first to really
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explore the new amp's limits.
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It made instruments capable of all different kinds of timbres
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and harmonics and, you know, it made it possible for me
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to make more than music.
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West London became the improbable focus of a music scene that
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produced dozens of new bands.
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# 600... #
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All the new guitar talent could be found jamming with
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Alexis Korner at the Ealing Blues Club.
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They were playing, particularly the Stones, through Alexis,
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had this grungy sort of blues sound to them.
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The West London scene stretched from Shepherd's Bush Hammersmith
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all the way to Uxbridge.
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So you could walk from Cyril Davis to Cliff Bennett
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and on the way, you'd get lots of action.
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# I was alone, I took a ride... #
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We all congregated around that West London area. Jim was right there.
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Jim Marshall saw all of this, like Alexis did,
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and like other people who were just maybe a little bit older than this
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generation and therefore could act as father figures to these new kids
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who were coming through.
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We had all the local musicians who were potentially
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the stars of the future.
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You know, Pete Townshend, Ritchie Blackmore, Eric Clapton,
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they were all our customers.
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And it was no surprise that Eric should find
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himself at the Hanwell shop.
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During his first stint with John Mayall,
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he was playing the JTM 45 half-stack with the 4x12 cabinet.
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And then during his second stint with John Mayall,
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which is notably when the album, the Beano album was recorded,
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he was using a 2x12 45-watt combo.
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You know, he'd been using that set up at gigs.
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He had the amp all the way up, he loved the sound it was making
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and when it was time to record,
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that was the sound he wanted on the record.
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It was unbelievably loud and the engineers were absolutely
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freaking out going, "Oh, no, all our needles are all going
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"into the red." You know.
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"Tell the young beast to turn it down." And he wouldn't.
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And the sound was born that people are still aspiring to,
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listening to and are trying to recreate today.
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But the business was still relying on Jim's shop
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and word of mouth for new sales.
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The time had come to move up a gear.
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In 1964, Jim signed a distribution agreement with Rose Morris.
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It was worldwide agreement for them to distribute their products.
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What Rose Morris did for Marshall was take it from
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relative obscurity to make it a worldwide, well-known brand.
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The deal put the amps into music shops across the world
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and with that, came an iconic new logo.
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As soon as they got the white scrolly lettering,
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the amps pretty much sold themselves.
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With Rose Morris, whatever we supplied one week,
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we were paid the following week.
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And they gave us an order book that kept us going every single month.
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But as gigs got bigger,
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The Who's guitarist discovered that 50 watts was no longer loud enough.
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I seem to remember once saying to Jim, like, almost pinning him
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up against the wall and saying, "Jim, I need bigger weapons."
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The challenge was on and Ken found a way to create the world's
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first 100-watt amp.
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He went back in and he fiddled about and a couple of days later,
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he came back and instead of two power tubes, we had four.
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# I can go anywhere... #
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I said, "What I've decided to do is use one 4x12 at the bottom and then
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"I'm going to put another one on top so it's level with the guitar."
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And he said, "Oh, no, Pete, that'll fall down, it'll hurt somebody.
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"They are not meant to be stacked."
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Anyway, that's exactly what happened. I banged it with my guitar
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and down it went.
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But it kept going.
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The Marshall stack was born.
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The Who arrived with chaos.
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# People try to put us d-down
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# Talkin' 'bout my generation... #
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They wanted loud, they wanted distorted.
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# Talkin' 'bout my generation... #
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And at the first gig I'd just started up with Heatwave
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and I was in a state of shock.
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# Talkin' 'bout my generation
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# I hope I die before I get old... #
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I'd never heard anything so exciting,
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so loud and energetic ever.
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We wanted to blow their minds, go blahh.
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Turn up the amplifiers so that they couldn't hear themselves think.
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- # ..dig what we all s-say
- Talkin' 'bout my generation... #
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You know I was just a punk kid, art student, you know.
491
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,520
I didn't give a shit for anybody, you know.
492
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:41,480
I'd just had my thesis which was, you know, to make this band
493
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:43,440
and blow it up in a cloud of smoke.
494
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:46,280
LOUD FEEDBACK
495
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,560
In those days, you can't imagine the fact those guys were
496
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:56,200
buying in excess of a A?1,000 worth of equipment a month.
497
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:59,480
Everything was hire purchase in those days.
498
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,080
Which is one of the reasons I was able to smash a few
499
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:05,280
guitars in close succession cos he allowed me to buy them on tick.
500
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:09,920
I can remember once not having a guitar for a gig and I ran into
501
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:14,160
the store and grabbed this guitar and went, "OK, if I pay you later?"
502
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:18,040
Just with my fingers crossed. And he went, "Yeah, go on, go on."
503
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:24,880
So between Jim Marshall and The Who, they were building a foundation
504
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:28,600
for what rock would look and sound like for the years to come.
505
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,960
That sound just - that started it all off.
506
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,600
I remember going to see the Small Faces
507
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,360
and when they came on and played, they blew the place apart.
508
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:45,240
I mean, it just changed everything.
509
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,440
When I saw Peter Green and then Eric Clapton playing
510
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,800
with them it was like, "Oh, hang on, this is big league,
511
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,480
"this is everything, and everybody's going for these now."
512
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,160
It was a statement about power.
513
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:02,680
Remember also, we're entering the psychedelic era now
514
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:09,280
and people wanted to be literally blown away with volume.
515
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:17,840
Cream, Britain's first super group, used a wall of stacks.
516
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:21,600
What seemed to matter now, was power and image.
517
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:23,760
That was how it was in those days, you know.
518
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:25,160
If you wanted to be louder,
519
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:29,000
it wasn't the PA that did it, it was the amount of physical hardware.
520
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:35,680
There's no doubt there is an iconic look to seeing
521
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:37,640
a stack of Marshall speakers.
522
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:39,480
It's almost the look of rock'n'roll.
523
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:41,520
It's incredible actually.
524
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:49,040
No sooner had Cream reached their peak,
525
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:51,920
than a musical earthquake hit Britain.
526
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:56,640
You know, there was a sort of hierarchy of London guitar players.
527
00:31:56,640 --> 00:32:00,720
When Hendrix arrived, it was like, "OK, everybody budge up one."
528
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,000
MUSIC: Voodoo Chile by Jimi Hendrix
529
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,200
I think Jimi came along at the right time,
530
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:08,840
as far as the Marshall amplifier was concerned.
531
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:11,880
Jimi not only appreciated the fact that
532
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:16,400
I made the amplifier with the sound that he wanted, but also his
533
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:20,560
name was James Marshall Hendrix and he got a kick out of that as well.
534
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:25,320
It was a fabulous screaming sound
535
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:29,880
and you got the sense of the guy playing through feedback.
536
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:32,840
# I'm a voodoo chile... #
537
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:35,000
And again, Marshall was at the centre.
538
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,280
# I'm a voodoo chile, babe... #
539
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:41,120
Immediately, he started playing guitar in Britain, all these
540
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:44,640
great guitarists, the Eric Claptons, and Peter Greens,
541
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:49,800
and Pete Townshends and Keith Richards and all just went, "Wow!"
542
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:56,560
You know, Clapton was God, but Jimi killed God, man.
543
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:02,480
The Marshall name was like Jimi Hendrix,
544
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:06,480
Clapton in Cream, The Who, Marshall.
545
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:09,280
And we all had stacks.
546
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:11,240
HE LAUGHS
547
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:27,400
Britain was in the grips of a deep counter culture.
548
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:30,640
The message was turn on, tune in and drop out.
549
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,760
MUSIC: Valley Of Neptune by Jimi Hendrix
550
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:37,520
It was also a time of change for the sleepy hamlet of Milton Keynes,
551
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:40,320
near Bletchley, 50 miles north of London.
552
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:44,560
With growing international sales, the company had
553
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:47,560
outgrown their tiny West London factory.
554
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:51,160
The new town was offering generous relocation grants
555
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,680
and Jim put the idea to the workforce.
556
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,960
We went to lots of discussions on different places and things
557
00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:01,520
we were going to do, but it opened up that Bletchley was offering
558
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:06,480
factories, accommodation for workers, and it looked quite promising.
559
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:09,640
Jim led the way north.
560
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:12,680
The first few weeks, I know they were all sleeping in the factory.
561
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:15,240
Virtually all of his staff then followed.
562
00:34:20,240 --> 00:34:23,120
As rock developed, the super group began harnessing
563
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,320
the power of the pounding guitar riff.
564
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:30,320
Jimmy Page of Led Zeppelin was the absolute master.
565
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:40,560
Again, it's impossible to overstate how big Led Zeppelin were.
566
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:43,200
They were absolutely massive.
567
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:46,840
They were the Beatles of the '70s in terms of popularity levels.
568
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:50,520
And, you know, I travelled with Robert quite a lot during that time.
569
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:56,000
And one of the challenges was to figure out how to fill
570
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,360
an entire stadium with that sound.
571
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:03,640
I think that the change came in that later part of the '60s
572
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:07,960
when somebody developed proper public address systems that
573
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:12,800
were designed for music, not saying, "Would the owner of vehicle..."
574
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:17,400
Because you could now have amps that were as loud as hell.
575
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:22,080
The Marshall amp as a back-line, well, there's nothing better.
576
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:26,960
It was like opening the doors and there we are, we are away now.
577
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:31,920
It was just exactly like it was supposed to sound.
578
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,800
All the other amps, you had to like twiddle, whereas with
579
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:38,720
a Marshall, you just plug it in and it's like, like it's supposed to be.
580
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:43,960
The spectacle of Paul Kossoff with his legs apart, with his head back,
581
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:47,520
like a lion, roaring, wailing on his Les Paul,
582
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:53,000
it was like a spectacle of biblical proportions to someone at
583
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:54,600
15, 16 years old.
584
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,080
Everything was ten for Paul,
585
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:01,960
if 11 had been available by then, he would have done it been there.
586
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:03,560
No, all the knobs went to the right
587
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:07,080
and he would stand as close or as far away as he wanted to
588
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,120
for the feedback and just play.
589
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,840
It's kind of nice because I was there at the start of it all
590
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:17,600
with Purple and, you know, it was the Marshall and
591
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:21,200
this bass in particular that was the sound of our first hit, Hush.
592
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:22,560
It sort of went...
593
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:26,560
PLAYS OPENING RIFF OF HUSH
594
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:33,240
MUSIC: Hush by Deep Purple
595
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:39,120
You know, my 50-watt Marshall and Ritchie Blackmore's 30-watt Vox
596
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:42,840
wasn't going to be what we needed, so I suggested that we
597
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:46,920
go and see Jim down at the factory and we bought stacks for ourselves
598
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:50,720
and started to build our reputation as the loudest band in the world.
599
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:55,120
Deep Purple stretched the amp's power to the limits.
600
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:58,160
You look back now and forget how big Deep Purple were.
601
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:00,760
They were the equivalent of Black Sabbath, and certainly no
602
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,880
question about it, but what Purple had was almost the dual guitar
603
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:07,280
situation because of the way that Lord and Blackmore interplayed -
604
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:11,000
they competed at times, but they also complemented at others.
605
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:14,360
MUSIC: Smoke On The Water by Deep Purple
606
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:22,320
There's no doubt that without Marshall, there wouldn't have
607
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:25,760
been the sound that Lord and Blackmore were able to create.
608
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:31,040
And it was Blackmore's virtuosity and Lord's classical leanings
609
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:33,800
towards filling in the gaps that Blackmore didn't
610
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:37,120
that made Purple sound so magnificent, so epic.
611
00:37:39,240 --> 00:37:42,960
I am still using, right through this period, the direct-injection
612
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:46,000
Hammond organ, not going through the Leslie speakers but going
613
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:50,240
direct from the organ amplifier out into a Marshall 200 watt.
614
00:37:50,240 --> 00:37:52,560
I could get that really hard,
615
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:55,240
raw organ sound to compete with Ritchie.
616
00:37:56,240 --> 00:37:59,560
That's the beauty of what Deep Purple had, there was a warmth
617
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:03,480
to Richard Blackmore and Jon Lord in the way they competed and
618
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:06,640
combined and a lot of that was down to the way they used
619
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:07,800
the Marshall amps.
620
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:12,880
MUSIC: Smoke On The Water by Deep Purple
621
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:24,600
What Marshall gave you was that feeling of, you've got four horses
622
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:28,400
in front of you and you're driving them as hard as you can.
623
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:35,800
We were very, very stoned.
624
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:38,680
HE LAUGHS
625
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:40,280
Yeah, and we were...
626
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:44,880
We had this 6ft 2in woman with 52 inch tits,
627
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:48,720
painted blue, and dancing on stage every night.
628
00:38:48,720 --> 00:38:51,480
I suppose you could say it was pretty loose.
629
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:53,520
She didn't have an amplifier at all.
630
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:58,680
# I, I just took a ride... #
631
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:01,960
I'd only been with them four months, I think, and none of the others
632
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:05,840
could sing it and I could. So I sang it and it went to Number One.
633
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:07,320
On the front of the NME,
634
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:10,320
I had a picture of just me and it said, "Hawkwind at Number One."
635
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:12,400
It was great.
636
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:14,000
It's a very loud kind of music.
637
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:16,160
What has it done to your ears for instance?
638
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:17,280
Eh?
639
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:20,640
MUSIC: Ballroom Blitz by The Sweet
640
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:25,560
Guitar sounds, because they were so thick and big,
641
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:28,520
you didn't need much more on the recording.
642
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:31,760
You didn't need to now start putting handclaps and tambourines
643
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:34,760
and things in there because the space wasn't there.
644
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:38,160
The drum sound was a powerhouse, the guitar was a powerhouse
645
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:40,360
and the bottom end of the bass.
646
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:42,760
What else did you need? You didn't need anything else.
647
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:46,320
# And the girl in the corner said "Boy, I wanna warn you" And it turned into a ballroom blitz
648
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:47,720
# Ballroom blitz... #
649
00:39:47,720 --> 00:39:52,800
The actual sheer weight of air movement that made your
650
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:55,080
trousers flap.
651
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:59,720
You know, of everything happening on stage was just incredible.
652
00:39:59,720 --> 00:40:05,560
The way the Marshall amp sounds gives a unique opportunity to
653
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:08,000
musicians to play their instruments in the way
654
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:11,760
they want to, knowing it will actually be projected to everybody.
655
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:17,480
A pop group in full voice, as it were, can produce just about the
656
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:19,880
same amount of noise as a 707
657
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:21,760
thundering a few hundred feet overhead.
658
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:25,520
And that's what it was all about then.
659
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:28,560
We're a rock band - it's got to be loud, you know.
660
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:30,840
And Slade were louder than us.
661
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:33,520
Oh, really? OK, well, we'll turn it up then.
662
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:35,800
# Here we are Oh, here we are
663
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:37,040
# Oh here we go... #
664
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:40,080
You know, we used to tear audiences' heads off.
665
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:42,760
We had about 34 cabinets on stage
666
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:45,000
and we used to call it the Wall of Death.
667
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,360
And at our height, I mean, they were somewhere up there
668
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:50,600
and you had to sort of reach up to try and adjust your volume.
669
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:54,800
Not that it needed a lot of adjusting because it was flat out.
670
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:59,240
MUSIC: Dancing with the Moonlit Knight by Genesis
671
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:08,440
Les Paul, Marshall stack everything I wanted to do, everything
672
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:11,120
I wanted to be...
673
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:12,560
there it was.
674
00:41:16,240 --> 00:41:19,360
These days, we talk about you know searching for the upper harmonic
675
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:21,280
and all that, but in those days,
676
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:24,320
we would just go, "My God, it's so alive, it's screaming."
677
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:27,400
And I think guitarists are always looking for the slightly
678
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:29,000
out of control thing.
679
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:34,120
But just as progressive rock had reached its peak,
680
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:37,160
music received a sudden and dramatic wake up call.
681
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:42,600
Everything had arrived at the stage where it all needed a huge,
682
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:46,600
great kick and of course punk arrived kind of in the nick of time.
683
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:49,920
# I am an antichrist... #
684
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:54,280
The punk revolution unleashed a torrent of new talent.
685
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:57,560
# Don't know what I want But I know how to get it... #
686
00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:01,400
Gritty guitars and the three-minute pop song were back with attitude.
687
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:03,680
# Cos I want to be... #
688
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:06,920
And it inspired more than just the anarchists.
689
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:10,760
# ..anarchy... #
690
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:16,240
I think Never Mind The Bollocks was more of an early heavy metal
691
00:42:16,240 --> 00:42:18,320
album than punk, to be honest.
692
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:22,920
The minute you saw Steve Jones on the TV,
693
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:24,840
I thought, "Oh, I see, right."
694
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:27,600
You don't have to be Ritchie Blackmore then, it is
695
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:32,160
possible to write three chords and get yourself up on stage.
696
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:38,760
Diamond Head were one of the first of the
697
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:40,640
new wave of British heavy metal.
698
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:44,560
Punk and heavy metal were remarkably connected.
699
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:49,480
What happened around about 1978 was it all started to coalesce.
700
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:52,520
The media started to pick up on, hang on, the most exciting young
701
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:55,440
bands around the country, be they from Sheffield, Newcastle,
702
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:58,080
London, Manchester, Birmingham or Glasgow, happened to all
703
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:01,840
fit into this funny little thing called hard or heavy rock, and
704
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:05,240
the term new wave of British heavy metal, which just trips off
705
00:43:05,240 --> 00:43:09,920
the tongue now, sounds so ridiculous and so very complicated.
706
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:11,320
But it summed it up because
707
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:14,920
it was a young feeling in the country for metal.
708
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:19,080
I think it was just a natural progression where we came out
709
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:22,360
with all the energy, going at it hammer and tongues, you know
710
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:24,440
arms flailing, ripping.
711
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:25,520
# Wheels of steel... #
712
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:27,720
I can still remember this kid at the front shouting,
713
00:43:27,720 --> 00:43:29,720
"It's great! It's just like punk. I love it"
714
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:34,560
Iron Maiden, Def Leppard, Saxon, just to use as examples,
715
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:38,080
would look at that. What do I hear them play? Ah, they use Marshalls,
716
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:41,160
which were identifiable and instantly recognisable
717
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:43,760
and gave the sound and the warmth they wanted.
718
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:47,000
They started to use Marshalls because it was the obvious amp
719
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:49,000
to use, nothing else came close.
720
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:56,680
Once AC/DC hit on their sound and their rhythm,
721
00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:59,840
there was nothing to add and nothing to take away.
722
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:01,800
It was just perfect, and it still is.
723
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:04,120
There's nothing that you need to do to it.
724
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:09,960
Powering rock perfection may be one thing, but new challenges lay ahead.
725
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:16,400
A seismic shift was beginning in the music younger audiences wanted.
726
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:20,680
MUSIC: D.I.S.C.O. by Ottowan
727
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:25,520
Disco was a threat to all live music,
728
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:28,240
and that included the market for amps.
729
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:34,520
Even though, in those days, disco records were still being
730
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:39,760
made in the studios by musicians, it wasn't about the big live
731
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:44,480
performance and therefore they didn't require the huge amps
732
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:49,240
that, in the days before PA systems seriously got sorted out,
733
00:44:49,240 --> 00:44:52,400
were necessary to fill the bigger and bigger rooms.
734
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:56,320
All rock bands recorded albums because they wanted to tour.
735
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:59,080
They wanted to be seen, and that's where the expression
736
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:03,760
comes across, and disco undermined it or tried to undermine it
737
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:09,240
by making records more important but much more transient as well.
738
00:45:09,240 --> 00:45:12,240
And people used to say to me,
739
00:45:12,240 --> 00:45:16,520
"Well, the Marshall is very good once you can afford it."
740
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:21,480
They were starting to get cheeky little oiks on their home turf
741
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:25,440
like Orange, Sound City and Hiwatt.
742
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:30,560
And they were building Marshall-style amplifiers,
743
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:35,000
some of them were undercutting Marshall in terms of price.
744
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:39,400
Some of them, like Orange and Hiwatt, had quite distinctive sounds
745
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:43,320
of their own, so they weren't precisely just copying.
746
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:48,600
Marshall's dominance was collapsing and sales plummeted.
747
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:53,520
In 1981, we were down to 17 people on the clock.
748
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:58,560
To survive, they desperately needed a new flagship amp.
749
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:01,760
But the dilemma was whether to switch to cheaper transistor
750
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:04,800
technology or to stick with their valve heritage.
751
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,720
I think there will always be guitarists that will want to
752
00:46:07,720 --> 00:46:11,080
play valve amplifiers, whether it's because they think it sounds
753
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:13,840
better or because there's a certain nostalgia.
754
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:18,520
The more you progress as a musician, you're only really after one
755
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:21,360
particular sound that becomes your own.
756
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:23,240
And that's the valve-type sound.
757
00:46:23,240 --> 00:46:26,040
They take a signal, they add a bunch of noise,
758
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:27,760
distort the crap out of it.
759
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:32,120
What goes in is not what comes out, bigger. It completely mashes it,
760
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:35,280
but in a glorious musical way that has a third dimension.
761
00:46:36,720 --> 00:46:39,880
It rounds off the edge. It sounds peculiar, but you get a cleaner
762
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:43,880
distortion, you get less harshness than you would out of a digital amp.
763
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:46,960
Beethoven, Mozart, the great composers,
764
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:50,320
use symphonies to get across their thoughts and ideas.
765
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:53,400
If they had a Marshall amp, you don't think Beethoven would have
766
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:55,680
been plugging in and blasting away, or Mozart?
767
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:57,200
Of course they would've done.
768
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:01,640
The decision was made.
769
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:04,800
The new JCM800 kept the valve technology
770
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:07,480
so crucial to the distinctive Marshall sound.
771
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:13,760
At its launch in 1980, everything rested on its success.
772
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:18,920
They were lucky.
773
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:22,480
British heavy metal hit the big time, and Marshall with it.
774
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:26,080
The stack was back as the ultimate symbol of rock power.
775
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:30,640
If you went to a show and you saw a wall of Marshalls,
776
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:33,240
you knew exactly what to expect.
777
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:36,960
The gamble with valves had paid off.
778
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:40,560
By the mid '80s, the company was totally resurgent.
779
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:44,720
MUSIC: Hungry Years by Saxon
780
00:47:44,720 --> 00:47:47,440
Sold out gigs, wall of Marshalls,
781
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:52,240
wailing guitar, singing crowd, all in uniform - fantastic.
782
00:47:52,240 --> 00:47:54,120
It was the best feeling in the world.
783
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:59,600
And we did have our own dress code. It went a little bit wrong
784
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:03,120
later on cos I think America went a little bit Motley Crue.
785
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:05,720
But it became very popular, so you were kind of tugged
786
00:48:05,720 --> 00:48:09,280
between pretty boys and being nasty like Motorhead, you know.
787
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:20,400
I remember he sent me some JCM800's and I sent them back to him.
788
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:23,960
I didn't like them, they were too quiet, you know.
789
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:28,560
Nah, I just turned it up
790
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:32,640
and hit the thing very hard, you know, that's...the secret.
791
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:44,280
Shows got ridiculously big
792
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:45,760
because the money was there,
793
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:48,760
and, if you've got a 20,000-capacity arena,
794
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:51,280
it's a little different to having a 20-capacity park.
795
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:52,960
You have to project and have something
796
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:55,600
that people to latch onto, so they did become
797
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:59,800
so over the top and so ridiculous and also gave the opportunity
798
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:01,760
to the lampoonists to come along
799
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:04,280
and say, "Oh, look at that. We have an idea.
800
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:08,160
"We can actually take the piss out of all those bands
801
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:09,840
"who do huge stage sets."
802
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:11,480
This is the loudest...
803
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:13,920
Rock'n'roll! Rock'n'roll!
804
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:17,800
..most explosive band in heavy metal history.
805
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:20,360
This is Spinal Tap.
806
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:21,920
I think the film Spinal Tap
807
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:26,240
probably had a lot to do with a resurgence of the use of Marshall.
808
00:49:26,240 --> 00:49:31,000
- If you can see...
- Yeah.
- ..the numbers all go to 11.
809
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:33,160
- Look, right across the board.
- Oh.
810
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:34,880
11, 11, 11.
811
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:37,880
- And most amps go up to ten?
- Exactly.
812
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:40,360
Does that mean it's louder? Is it any louder?
813
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:42,200
Well, it's one louder, isn't it?
814
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:46,360
Why don't you just make ten louder and make ten be the top number
815
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:47,800
and make that a little louder?
816
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:52,240
These go to 11.
817
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:55,120
It goes to 11.
818
00:49:56,840 --> 00:50:02,080
And it made me laugh so much that they actually...they built me one.
819
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:05,160
I think everyone likes to think it's about them.
820
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:08,560
Everybody claims that, but Harry Shearer actually came on tour
821
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:11,440
with us, did the research and put things from us in.
822
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:14,680
If you talk to people about Spinal Tap and Nigel Tufnel
823
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:18,720
and "goes to 11", they associate all of that still with Marshall.
824
00:50:18,720 --> 00:50:21,160
It might go up to number 11,
825
00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:25,520
but it also works very well at number 1 or number 2.
826
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:27,560
You know, I think that's what's important.
827
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:30,680
I've got a JCM800
828
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:32,400
and it...
829
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:35,320
I only ever have it on 2.5.
830
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:39,600
That's as high as I dare take it because it's such a beast.
831
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:43,960
Players began to seek their own signature guitar tone.
832
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:46,800
If this was going to be a performance here,
833
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:49,120
I might put an X on the spot where it goes into like...
834
00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:50,320
GUITAR SOUNDS Let's see.
835
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:58,320
HOLDS SOUND ON GUITAR
836
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:01,680
All right, well, that's going to go forever,
837
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:03,600
so I'll put an X right there.
838
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:06,520
I can remember there were more significant things occurred
839
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:07,760
in the late '70s, early '80s
840
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:11,400
and I think prior and maybe afterwards as well.
841
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:14,360
Like you had Van Halen come out who revolutionised it,
842
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:17,680
then you... When you thought it couldn't get any better than you had
843
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:19,680
Randy Rhoads come out, for example.
844
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:23,160
The amp's reputation had spread across the Atlantic.
845
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:25,400
The American musicians embraced it so much
846
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:27,920
and they actually took it to another level.
847
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:30,800
If a young British musician had two or three Marshalls on stage,
848
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:32,280
they had ten.
849
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:35,920
It used to be in Los Angeles in the early '80s -
850
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:40,520
"Wanted guitar player. Must have Marshall, Gibson and a car."
851
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:46,200
Whether it's a pop song, a disco song, a rock song,
852
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:50,040
uh, metal song. I mean, whatever genre the music is,
853
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:53,560
God only knows how many recordings a Marshall has been on.
854
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:55,520
These are bands that suddenly started to sell
855
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:59,320
tens of millions of albums with what one could call big-hair rock,
856
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:03,280
glam rock, call it what you will, great anthemic songs,
857
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:06,400
great image and a sense of power.
858
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:08,400
And the Marshall amp was part of it
859
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:11,320
because they were proud to be photographed and filmed
860
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:13,960
with Marshalls. They had them on stage everywhere you went.
861
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:19,560
As rock music evolved in the '80s from rock to hard rock
862
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:23,520
to heavy rock to heavy metal, so Marshall evolved with it,
863
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:26,080
meeting the needs of those guitar players,
864
00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:29,520
and they were the amplifier of choice and becoming louder
865
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:32,000
and being seen on stage to be louder.
866
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:36,760
For me, it's all about the energy and the confidence
867
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:39,680
to be able to go up there and just do your thing, right?
868
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:44,240
So I spend very little time tweaking amps and doing all that shit.
869
00:52:44,240 --> 00:52:46,680
I set it up, it takes me five minutes, you know.
870
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:48,640
Either it sounds good or it doesn't.
871
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:53,160
MUSIC: Sweet Child O' Mine by Guns N' Roses
872
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:56,120
I remember being intimidated by it, the first time I ever...
873
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:58,400
It was somebody else's amp. And you plug it in
874
00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:02,040
and it was above and beyond anything I'd ever used,
875
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:04,840
so it was a little bit out of my sort of experience.
876
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:07,640
It's not a cure for anything.
877
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:10,040
If you suck and you buy a Marshall, you'll still suck,
878
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:11,400
but you will suck louder
879
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:14,280
and with better tone than you've ever sucked before in your life.
880
00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:19,600
The respect and adulation for the elder statesmen of rock
881
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:21,440
has increased many fold.
882
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:23,560
They are now held up with great esteem
883
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:26,920
and awe rather than being regarded as boring old farts.
884
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:32,160
Psychologically, you knew that what was coming out of those speakers
885
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:33,280
sounded great.
886
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:34,680
You know, we didn't use pedals.
887
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:38,040
I might have had a Crybaby or a wah-wah pedal or something.
888
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:40,160
But you just knew that you had a great guitar sound
889
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:43,120
because you were trying to emulate your heroes from before.
890
00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:45,480
It gave you that confidence to know that you were now...
891
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:46,960
As soon as you hit that chord,
892
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:49,600
you know, the crowd jumped up and - bang, you were there,
893
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:50,920
you were rock stars.
894
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:54,680
GUITAR RIFF TO CAROLINE
895
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:57,120
At least it's tried and tested.
896
00:53:57,120 --> 00:53:59,120
You know what you're going to get with it.
897
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:01,360
It does what it says on the tin.
898
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:04,160
It kick... Well, it doesn't actually say, "Kick arse," on there
899
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:06,720
but that would be quite good to have on there, wouldn't it?
900
00:54:06,720 --> 00:54:08,800
"Marshall Kick Arse." Yeah.
901
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:11,520
But it does... It does what you want it to do.
902
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:16,760
Like, my particular thing is always about a hard-driven
903
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:19,600
but warm, natural kind of a sound,
904
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:21,680
and that was what brought me to
905
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:25,640
Marshall in the first place because it had the volume and the gain
906
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:29,360
and all that to rock as hard as it could possibly...
907
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:31,360
anybody could ever possibly ever want.
908
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:35,080
# Watch me burn... #
909
00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:38,960
Still, today there's new bands coming out with new music
910
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:41,960
using a Marshall and saying, "We do this.
911
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:44,560
"This is how we do it, and this is how we sound."
912
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:49,960
You take a 14-year-old just getting into metal
913
00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:53,920
and you show them a picture from 1971-72 of a band on stage
914
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:55,000
using a Marshall amp,
915
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:56,320
they'll connect with it.
916
00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:59,480
You take a 14-year-old in 1971-72
917
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:02,400
and show them what equipment was on stage in the 1930s
918
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:04,760
they'll just look at it and go, "Alien,"
919
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:07,280
and that's the big difference. Marshall has transcended.
920
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:08,440
# I am electric
921
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:09,880
# I am electric
922
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:11,600
# I am electric! #
923
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:13,560
CROWD CHEERS AND SCREAMS
924
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:21,760
Marshall amplification has remained independent and British,
925
00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:23,400
just as Jim intended it to be.
926
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:29,360
Even into old age, he still led the company,
927
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:32,400
never letting up on his ambition or control,
928
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:33,800
but time was catching up.
929
00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:40,240
After a series of strokes, Jim was forced to take a back seat.
930
00:55:40,240 --> 00:55:42,840
We went and had dinner with him a couple of times
931
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:45,360
and he was kind of getting frailer and frailer, you know.
932
00:55:46,720 --> 00:55:49,120
It's a terrible thing.
933
00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:53,840
In April 2012, Jim Marshall died peacefully.
934
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:56,840
It was a shock but it was not unexpected.
935
00:55:56,840 --> 00:56:01,280
And it was international news within a few hours of him passing.
936
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:07,320
Now, he was known as the Father of Loud.
937
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:10,880
Jim Marshall, the man who helped shape the sound of rock, has died
938
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:12,440
at the age of 88.
939
00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:16,360
The outpouring was huge because he was a very significant figure.
940
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:18,160
There will never be another Jim Marshall.
941
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:20,640
I remember him with such affection.
942
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:25,040
And such a gentle, sweet, kind man,
943
00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:27,320
and, uh, to me, anyway.
944
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:33,640
# Your love made it well worth waiting
945
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:37,440
# For someone
946
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:43,360
# Like you. #
947
00:56:45,240 --> 00:56:48,400
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
948
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:55,320
Jim never lived to see the Marshall 50th concert,
949
00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:58,360
but it became rock's tribute to his life.
950
00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:00,360
So, tonight, it's a mixed emotion.
951
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:04,560
I was going out with the sole intention of doing this for Jim.
952
00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:05,920
He was supposed to be out there
953
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:08,720
either sitting on the side of the stage or out of the sound desk.
954
00:57:08,720 --> 00:57:12,720
You know, cos he still loved his rock'n'roll, you know.
955
00:57:12,720 --> 00:57:14,560
And I must admit, it's quite loud out there,
956
00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:16,400
but it's his fault, isn't it? You know.
957
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:18,840
HE LAUGHS
958
00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:23,600
6,000 fans filled London's Wembley Arena to hear some of the world's
959
00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:28,320
greatest guitarists play their own respects to the Father of Loud.
960
00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:35,720
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
961
00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:41,120
It's a beautiful old amp.
962
00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:43,280
This is where it all started.
963
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:47,760
Proud and sentimental. Bringing tears to my eyes.
964
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:48,800
Jim got it.
965
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:50,520
Jim was one of the first people.
966
00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:53,200
I have to say, I don't think that many others did.
967
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:58,560
This is the guy that has left one of the most amazing legacies.
968
00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:01,480
I think, without Jim, this wouldn't have happened.
969
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:04,680
We wouldn't have been able to do this stuff on stage.
970
00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:06,640
I suppose I've been very lucky, really,
971
00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:08,960
because I've liked everything that I've done in life.
972
00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:14,200
And I suppose the thing that makes it more interesting
973
00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:19,120
is the fact that whatever I've done has been associated with music.
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