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- Well, when I was 17 I lost my
virginity

to a female extra-terrestrial.

That's all I can say about it.

(mysterious music)

- David opens his eyes, only
to see a pair of glowing eyes

staring back at him.

It was a little hairy guy,
and David is not afraid.

He is very calm.

Voice, "David, get dressed, come
outside."

Cut to David opening the front
door.

He see's the little hairy
being, his eyes glowing,

voice, "Follow."

David closes the door
behind him and follows.

They cross the field into a line
of trees.

There is something on the
ground, it is glowing.

They go over to it and go
inside.

There are three insect-like
beings.

The little hairy being, two of
the little men, and a woman.

She is wearing a dark blue
cloak.

One of the insect beings
comes towards David.

Voice, "Sit."

"Remove clothing."

"Lie down."

David lies down on the bench.

There is an orange
yellowish light comes on.

David is looking at the light.

It doesn't hurt his eyes.

He is aware of the beings
that are standing over him.

They are touching his body.

David becomes aroused.

The woman is there.

She looks at David and
then eases on top of him.

They watch as David
and the woman have sex.

Soon it is over.

The woman looks at him, a
slight smile on her face.

Woman, "Forget."

David says, "Forget."

(mysterious music)

(razor scraping)

My name is David Huggins,
I'm 72 years old,

and I live in Hoboken, New
Jersey.

(mysterious music)

Mm, yes.

I do some writing, I'm writing a
script.

I have a part, part-time
job working at a deli,

and then I come home and I
paint.

Would you like some coffee?

I do meditation occasionally,
just to calm myself down.

Ommm

(coins clanking)

I throw the I Ching.

There are dreams I'll have
which I just don't understand.

And I'll ask the I Ching,
what is the meaning

of the dream I had last night?

Hmm, benefit increase.

- [Interviewer] What were you
asking it?

- What do they think of the
documentary, the beings.

Let's put this over here.

Pretty stable environment,
nothing out of the ordinary, no.

(food sizzling)

Sometimes I go a few days
without eating a thing.

And when I do eat, I make a lot.

I've always enjoyed
impressionistic art.

Monet, Renoir, van Gogh.

He was an expressionist, though.

I mean, the style is
very fluid, very loose.

Oh, it's just the colors.

The colors are just incredible.

Well, most of the paintings
I do are representative.

I did landscapes, still lives,
portraits.

I'd say they're impressionist,

but not really impressionistic.

I don't know what you
would call them really.

(sci-fi ambient music)

I've always liked this scene.

This is one of my favorites,
Son of Frankenstein.

I'm standing before a collection

of science fiction horror
movies.

There's a couple of thousand
VHS's here.

I just like VHS.

There's something about the tape
rolling,

you know, like a regular film.

Let me see, Teenagers from Outer
Space.

This is from the 50s.

Remember when they had
all those teenage movies?

Oh, The Ghoul.

Yes, with Boris Karloff.

I mean, you got pimples
running up and down your spine.

I mean, it's the atmosphere.

Sssssss.

It's about this scientist
who turns people into snakes.

The ending is really a stopper.

You see the guy, half snake half
man.

The Uninvited.

Oh, this is very good.

I think this is the greatest
ghost story ever made.

- [Interviewer] Does the
name have any meaning

or relation to your encounters
too?

- No, they were always invited.
(laughs)

One movie, it's a Doctor Who
movie with William Hartnell,

and it's called The Web Planet.

It has giant ants,
ant-like creatures in it.

And when I saw it, I just
could not stop watching it.

I don't know why, but it
seemed familiar to me.

The Thing from Another World.

A saucer crashes, and they
find a body frozen in the ice.

It thaws out, and it
starts killing people.

I saw it when I was about
seven or eight years old.

(mysterious music)

I grew up in Paulding County,
Georgia.

It was all farmland where I
lived.

There are vast areas that nobody
lived in.

We had a farm.

I had to slop the pigs, cut the
grass,

carry in wood for the stove.

I enjoyed it.

(mysterious music)

My grandparents took me to tent
revivals

on several occasions.

The preacher would come
on, hellfire and damnation.

There was this woman there,

she just started babbling
from what I could tell.

I think it went on for
like 15, 20 minutes,

and then it stopped.

You know, and it's like, what is
this?

It turned me off to religion big
time.

(mysterious music)

This is a rose bush that I
brought

up from Georgia many years ago.

The blooms don't last very long,

but the aroma fills the
whole back of the yard.

(mysterious music)

I like going to fields
looking for arrowheads.

I had quite a nice collection at
one time.

But that's gone.

Basically, my heritage is
English, Choctaw, and Cherokee.

Where our farm was, it was kind
of weird,

is that there was a lot
of arrowheads there.

And I'm thinking at one
time it is where they lived.

(mysterious music)

This is my mother and my father.

That's my mother, my
brother, Marie, and me.

This is me, (chuckles) from
School Days.

This was during the time
of my first encounter.

My childhood was strange
to a certain extent.

I was seeing things,
and my parents didn't.

Nobody in my family seemed
to see what I was seeing.

My first encounter was
when I was eight years old.

I was playing at the base of a
tree,

and I hear this voice
say, "David, behind you."

And I turned around, and there
is this

little hairy guy with large
glowing eyes

coming straight toward me.

I thought it was the Bogeyman.

I didn't know what to think of
it.

What was interesting is
that for a split second

I felt as if I was in
his eyes looking at me.

Then I just freaked,
and I ran to the barn,

and I glanced back, and
the little hairy guy

was turning around and
going back into the woods.

The eyes were just glowing,
is the best way to put it.

They just glowed.

The next encounter, I went
out to the barn to get,

I think it was a baseball
or something like that.

And I heard a noise on the other

side of the barn, and I go take
a look.

And there is this giant insect
like being.

It resembled like a praying
mantis.

And I just look at it
and started screaming.

As I did, he sprayed me with
some type

of bluish gray liquid.

I ran away from the
barn, and I notice that

this bluish liquid was
evaporating very quickly.

I was very terrified.

It's like, what in the
world am I looking at?

And for a eight year old,
you don't know what to think.

(mysterious music)

There was one time I was going
over to a friend's house.

And I'm walking behind the
barn, I'm going through a field.

And I get the impression
I am being watched,

but I didn't anything.

And then I hear a sound
like the mooing of a cow.

And I see a head coming
up from behind the bush.

And I'm looking at it, and I'm
saying,

"Is that a head?"

"Are those eyes?"

I start getting scared, and then
suddenly,

I said to myself, "Why is it so
bright?"

And I just fainted or just fell
down,

and curled up into a ball.

And there were several little
grays standing around me.

But the next thing I know
is that I hear three beeps,

and I'm standing chest
deep in these weeds,

and I don't know how I got
there.

I was in the back field.

I was looking for arrowheads.

I happened to glance up, and I
see about

eight or nine little blue
guys drop from the sky,

and they hit the ground
running straight toward me.

I took off toward the house.

I went around the front of the
house.

I looked underneath our house
because

it was on pillars, and I could
see

their legs on the other side.

And then they just turned and
walked away.

That night, I'm looking out the
window,

and who should I see but
several of the little guys.

Then I see them come in into my
room,

and they take me outside.

And we floated up to some type
of craft.

I'm inside a room, a well lit
room

with one of the little
grays, and a woman comes in.

She has a long rod in her hand.

She tilts my head back.

The little gray guy holds me.

And she thrusts the rod up my
nose.

She inserted something inside my
nose.

And after she pulled it out, I
said,

"You hurt me, you hurt me."

And she says, "Let me see."

And she looked at me, and
she made the pain go away.

You know how we tag whales
and stuff like that?

I think there were multiple
crafts.

But I only say them one at a
time.

But they were round,
oval shaped, very bright.

Sometimes they were dark.

When they were around there is
just

and incredibly beautiful
silence.

I mean, it was like I was
inside a vacuum or something.

There could be a car
outside honking its horn,

and then it would stop.

And there would be nothing,
absolutely nothing.

These beings didn't seem hostile
at all.

Scared the hell out of me, but
no,

there was never any hostility at
all.

There's the little grays.

They were small.

I kinda of got the impression
they were workers.

The hairy guy, it was his
eyes that always got me.

A tall thin being, he had a
knob on the back of his head.

He was like the person in
charge.

There was the insect being.

He reminded me of a praying
mantis.

He was frightening, but he
always

spoke to me as if I was a child.

(mysterious music)

And then there was Crescent.

I was walking in the woods,

and I see a woman sitting under
a tree.

And she gets up, and she
starts coming toward me.

I become very aroused sexually.

I couldn't get my pants down
fast enough.

(chuckles)

I fall back on the ground,
and I'm lying there,

and she's looking at me,
and I reached my climax,

which was quite painful
actually.

It was very intense.

And then I'm looking into
her eyes and I pass out.

And the next thing I know, I
wake up.

I don't know how much later,
maybe 15 or 20 minutes.

My pants are down around my
knees.

I couldn't understand what
they were doing down there.

And so, I quickly got up,

pulled my pants and underwear
up,

and I was gone, I left.

Virginity lost.

(mysterious music)

I figured if anything, I'll be
losing it

in the backseat of a
Ford, something like that.

But no, no, it didn't work
out that way at all.

I couldn't take Georgia anymore.

There was just nothing there.

Well, I always enjoyed
drawing and painting.

My parents didn't like it.

I heard about the Art Students
League.

So, I wrote a letter to my
folks,

told them where I was
going, and that was it.

I just got up and I left.

I was 19 years old.

They weren't there when I left,

or they would've stopped me.

(mysterious music)

This is during the great transit
strike

of 1965, '66, somewhere around
there.

And there was no buses
running or anything like that.

I said, "Oh my god," 'cause this
is

gonna be one very wet walk.

And so, anyway, I started
walking.

And then when I got to 5th
Avenue, I held out my thumb.

I figured, well, hell,
I might as well try it.

And this big black car pulls up,
stops.

And this woman, she says,
"Where are you going?"

I says, "Ma'am, if you can just
take me"

"across Central Park, I can
walk the rest of the way home."

So, she said, "Get in."

We didn't talk very much.

We get there, and I said, "Thank
you very much for the ride."

"You saved me a wet walk."

She just nodded her head.

That night I had a very strange
dream.

I see this face, it's a woman's
face.

But the eyes are closed,
and she's coming toward me.

And I don't remember
anything else after that.

It was dreamlike, I should
say, but it wasn't a dream.

And every time I would
wake up in the morning,

I would hear these words.

"We'll be back tonight."

Now, this is going on for
months.

You have no idea what I was
going through.

"It was only a dream.

"No it wasn't, she's real."

"No, she's not."

I'm going back and forth.

I just did not know what to
think.

One morning when I wake
up, I hear those words.

"We'll be back tonight."

But I didn't forget them.

I go to the league, and I end
the classes.

And as I'm walking home, I'm
still having,

"Yes, no, yes, maybe, I don't
know."

I pass a florist, and I see
these flowers inside the window.

They were pink cyclamens.

And I say, "Well, if she's real",

"then the flowers are hers."

I remember lying in bed, and
I say, "Those are for you."

The next morning, I wake up.

Wham, it hit me.

She took the flowers.

I couldn't believe it.

That night, I knew they
were gonna come back.

I cleaned up the house,
washed some dishes.

Had to be spick and span.

It was like I was gonna have a
date.

We weren't going to be
going out, but as a date.

That night, we were
rubbing our heads together.

(mysterious music)

Next time you're with your
girlfriend, start rubbing heads.

Trust me on this.

There was something very
beautiful,

something very lovely about her.

She had a very nice body.

The only thing that
was different about her

was that she had very long
fingernails,

and she had these very large
eyes,

and her face was rather pale.

My relationship with Crescent
was warm and friendly,

a little strange. What do I
mean little, very strange.

She was my girlfriend, really.

This was one of the first
paintings I ever did.

It's not really all that good.

She's on top of me, I reach my
climax,

and she and the insect being
leave.

I was always having sex with
her.

I was on the bottom, and she was
on top.

Because I was basically kinda
paralyzed.

A very unconventional
relationship.

There were a couple of women
at the Art Students League.

I would have only one
date, and that was it.

They would find some reason
not to go out with me again.

But at that time, it
was basically Crescent.

I was doing some painting,
and then all at once,

the wall opens up, and there is
Crescent,

and she's very stressed out.

And she says, "David, the baby's
dying."

And I go, "Baby? What baby?"

"Your baby, but it's dying."

And I said, "Show me my baby."

At first she wouldn't do it,

and I had to yell it out
three times really loud.

"Show me my baby."

She picks the baby up out of
some container

and holds it out in front of
her.

And the baby's just like
dangling.

And I said, "No, no, no,
don't hold the baby like that."

"Cradle the baby in your arms."

"Listen, I've gotta come there."

"No, you're not allowed."

"My baby's dying, and I can't
come there?"

"What's this?"

And I go and I pass out on my
bed.

The next thing I know, I'm
there.

The insect being comes over,
and he's rather upset with me.

He says, "What are you doing
here?"

I said, "My baby's dying."

"I want my baby."

And I see Crescent holding the
baby,

but the baby is not moving.

And I reach over to touch it,

and just as I touch it,
like static electricity

jumped from my hand to the
baby, and the baby moved.

Maybe I was imparting
some of my energy to it.

And I say, "Wow, did you see
that?"

"The baby's moving."

The insect being is
looking at me, and he says,

"Come with me."

And we go into another
room filled with babies.

And I'm looking at them,
and I say, "Oh my god."

"Whose babies are these?"

He points to me.

I wasn't so much as creeped
out as I was surprised.

I was just like, whoa, no, no.

I could not believe it at first.

But they were my babies,
and I had to help them,

so I wound up touching them all.

There was one time where
I had totally flipped.

I was taking off my clothes,
and I'm hearing these words,

"Everything is fine,
everything is all right."

And I wasn't all right.

I started crying and everything.

I just broke down.

I kept saying, "The baby
died, the baby died."

"Oh my god, it's my fault, it's
my fault."

"Everything is fine,
everything is all right."

"Everything is fine,
everything is all right."

And it wasn't fine, and
it wasn't all right.

"No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no."

I was carrying on, I was
spreading my arms, crying.

These two very large
women grab a hold of me,

and they forced me to the floor.

Crescent came running in, and
says,

"David, what is the matter?"

And I said, "My baby died."

And I didn't calm down
until Crescent said,

"David, the baby didn't die."

"See, here's your baby."

And one of the women
comes in holding the baby.

I get up and I go over to it.

And all the guilt or
whatever I felt was gone.

(mysterious music)

This is the morning I woke up.

I heard this voice inside my
head.

"The baby is fine, the baby is
all right."

It was like letting me know for
sure.

(mysterious music)

There was like this
amnesia, or whatever it is,

but every time I'd have an
experience with these beings,

whether I saw them during
the day or at night,

I always forget it.

It was just incredible.

I should not forget something
like that, but I did.

It started coming back August
17, 1987.

They had left me alone
for a long period of time.

I got married, and we had
Michael.

It seemed like I was living
a perfectly normal life

until I started remembering
things.

And then it just like, flipped
me out.

I was creeping around the house,

because I felt that there was
somebody else in the house.

I felt a presence... but I never
saw them.

I didn't know what to think.

I was just beside myself.

I was getting nervous,
anxious, paranoid really.

I was basically a walking bowl
of jello.

I didn't know who to speak
to or anything like that.

I heard about Budd Hopkins.

(mysterious music)

And I tried getting his book.

It was like a compulsion.

It was like I was being led to
the book.

(mysterious music)

I'm going back to the house,

and looking through the book,

and there was this chapter,
Other Women Other Men,

and I start reading it.

(mysterious music)

I go, "Oh my god."

This is the woman I
never told anyone about.

As I was reading it, memory
upon memory come flooding back.

It was just like image
upon image, upon image.

It wouldn't stop.

I think what bothered me the
most

is I didn't know what to do with
it.

I was so scared.

(mysterious music)

There was this meeting with
these beings,

and the tall thing guys aid,
"Let David do paintings."

It took me about three weeks to

get up enough nerve to
do my first painting.

But I did.

And that night I got such a
restful sleep.

(mysterious music)

It was just a relief to get the
images

down on the canvas.

(mysterious music)

That's the insect being.

He is always there.

This is my other body.

This is the packaged alien.

It opened it's eyes and mouth,

and it began tapping on
the side of the plastic.

I quickly gave it back to him.

It kind of scared me.

It's a UFO over my head,
and it is humongous.

I am some place, it is
park-like, it is beautiful.

This is on the other side of the
portal,

then it closes up,

and I am some place else.

We're in space, or at least it

seemed to me we were in space.

We went to this room,

there was this bowl on this
table,

and I was supposed to
ejaculate into the bowl.

- [Interviewer] Not very
romantic.

- No.

This is one of the large women,

and I had sex with this woman.

It was quite pleasant, even
though

she was bigger than me, and
stronger.

I was traumatized.

I'm not saying that I wasn't.

But after I started doing the
paintings,

it seemed like I was calming
down,

and that I realized that these
things had happened to me.

And I was able to face it.

Oops, out of staples.

Okay.

I see the image in my head, and
I start

drawing the image image
or painting the image.

There was like, I don't know,

something orangey about his
eyes.

He was just standing there
looking at me.

And I went and told my father,

and he came back very angry with
me.

"There's nobody out there!"

"Boy, quit making things up."

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

The next day I was behind our
house,

and there was Crescent.

I said, "My mama and
daddy don't believe me"

"when I say I see you."

"I got a whipping."

And as soon as I said it,

I knew she didn't like hearing
that.

Then she just stared right into
my eyes,

and she says, "Then don't tell
them."

After that, I never said a word.

- [Interviewer] This is what you
were

painting last time I was here.

- Yeah, I just never did finish
it.

(mysterious music)

- [Interviewer] As you're
painting,

does the memory become clearer?

- Yes, it does, actually.

(mysterious music)

I usually see 'em rather bright,
you know.

But this was dark.

I think it's a UFO.

It wasn't a hole in space,
I can tell you that much,

'cause it was moving.

Let me see here, okay.

(mysterious music)

My mother and father drank a
great deal.

If I was anywhere around, I
usually

got hit or something like that.

And I just got sick and tired of
it.

Sometimes it was with a belt.

Sometimes it was with
a switch, rather thick.

(chuckles)

And dad was seeing other women.

It was like hell, really.

And I hear this voice
inside my head saying,

"If you don't leave now, you
never will."

And well, I left.

I'm not strict with Michael at
all.

I've never hit him, spare the
rod and all that good stuff.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

(mysterious music)

There is one time I did one
painting

which I totally made up.

I destroyed it.

The main reason why I did it is
that

they were very upset with me.

And it was like, "David, do the
paintings",

"But don't make anything up."

(mysterious music)

Now, when this painting dries,

I'm thinking of putting some
trees

down here at the bottom.

But I've got to wait until it
dries.

- [Interviewer] What would
you title this painting?

- Something in the Sky?

I'm working on a movie script
about my ET experiences.

Right now, I'm up to a point
where David

sees his babies in the incubator
room, and he is shocked.

And he asks the insect being,
"Whose babies are these?"

And the insect being points to
him.

And David says to himself,

"How am I going to send these
kids to college."

The act of writing is, for me,

similar to painting.

It seems like I get more out
of it by writing it by hand.

I just seem to remember a little
bit more.

(mysterious music)

I just remembered something.

There was a time during my teens
where

I seemed to float off my bead.

And then as I'm floating off the
bed,

I kinda wake up, and then I
crash

back down on the bed again.

- [Interviewer] What made
you just remember that?

- It's what I'm reading here.

I read the book, and then
several

months later we got a divorce.

(mysterious music)

We had been having
problems in our marriage.

I know that she knows that
something was different about me.

I didn't know how to bring it
up.

I said, "We gotta sit down."

"I gotta talk to you about
something."

"I have no idea where to start."

But I said, "I have had
a experiences as a child"

"with all I can say are aliens,"

"and there were sexual
encounters also."

And that was when it stopped.

"Oh, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no.

"I don't wanna hear it,
I don't wanna hear it."

"I don't wanna hear it, you're
crazy."

That was it.

(mysterious music)

Oh, which one am I looking for?

Yeah, this is a young
boy that she showed me

that was mine and hers.

It's like, in a way, I think of
Michael.

It's like he has some half
brothers

and half sisters some place.

Well, I told Michael when
he was younger, you know.

But I kept it very light.

And I said, "These are people
that I know."

"They're from some place else."

And he would say, "Well, where?"

I said, "I don't know."
(chuckles)

This is me holding my son upside
down.

He likes to be held that
way, I have no idea why.

I've gotta ask him one of
these days if he remembers.

(quirky music)

(equipment clanking)

- I don't really remember how I
found out.

I just remember the paintings.

I just asked, "Who are they?"

"What are they?"

I guess, at some point, I was
told.

But there was never a moment
where

we had a big conversation about
it.

I guess my childhood upbringing
was

pretty easy going, pretty
normal.

Well, the extra terrestrial
encounters are unique.

(quirky music)

The encounters never
impacted my childhood.

It was just something that was
going on.

And it never flowed over into my
life.

Yeah, I supposed I just accepted
it.

I never really questioned it
or was very concerned about it.

(quirky music)

(birds chirping)

- I admire him that he
believes in certain things.

And nobody has to judge nobody
else.

(quirky music)

I know David by one day walking

in the store looking for the
job.

And he told me he knew
how to work in a deli.

And I gave him a chance,

and since then he's still
working here.

- Yes, sir, may I help you?

- [Anthony] He's a very quiet
person.

He gets along with everybody.

- Just made it a little while
ago.

Enjoy.
- Thanks.

- I saw his paintings once.

Well, each one believes in his
own ideas.

And I respected that.

- [Interviewer] Do you believe
that

David had these experiences?

- Yes, I do.

That's what he tells me,
and I just believe it.

(quirky music)

- My name's Nitten.

I live on the block.

And it's a block where
everyone has a good time

just hanging on the steps, talk.

And our friend, David,
is a very good neighbor

since the last 30 years that I
know.

And very quiet. And when you see
him,

the most friendliest guy
you'll ever meet is David.

And he's actually the last man

standing alone on this block.

We had a lot of people
who have gone to heaven,

and he's the only guys who's
left here on the block.

No, I haven't heard his unique
story.

I would like to hear his unique
story.

(quirky music)

Oh, beautiful eyes on the alien.

Hypnotic eyes.

So, that's his room, and she's
having sexual intercourse.

Wow.

That's something unique, from an
alien?

(chuckles)

(mysterious music)

- I have not had sex with
aliens or anybody like that.

But the question, would
I in the first place?

I've written thousands front
page articles

in the Brooklyn Daily Eagle.

I have interviewed Hillary
Clinton

many years ago when she was a
senator.

I've interviewed Michael
Bloomberg,

and the mayors of New York,
and other public figures.

I connect with people.

I connect in a very human way,

because there's a human
story behind that person.

I do the same thing when I'm
dealing with

somebody who claims to
have had an experience.

I am involved in the UFO
subject very intimately,

both as experiencer and as one
who founded

a support group for people who
have had

experiences of seeing UFOs,

to having close contact with
UFOs.

And the group is called SPACE.

The letters mean Search Project

for Aspects of Close Encounters.

People come to our meeting and
tell about their experiences.

And David was one of them.

He showed us some of his
artwork.

And that's how we actually
formed a friendship.

What David reveals, the way he
talks,

the way he does his art,
from all that he's told me,

from all that he's shown me,

from his manner and
personality and character,

I trust what he says.

And it conveys not only trust,

but commonalities that other
people

who also have the ability
to sketch and make artwork

which I collected over the
years.

This is my own sketch of an
experience

in 1993 in Greenwich Village.

I have fun.

This is my balloon alien blown
up.

I put him on the bed, and he's
reading

his favorite magazine: UFO
Roswell.

What does he think?

Now, why did they choose David
Huggins,

for that matter, anybody else?

And David has pondered
that for a long time.

And I don't think he has an
answer.

- $64 question, I have no idea
why.

I mean, I don't consider myself

all that important or special.

I mean, I don't even know
what that means anymore.

But they came into my life,

and to a certain degree,
they're still there.

Who are these beings?

What do these experiences mean?

And why did these beings choose
me?

I don't know, I've never asked
these questions.

(ominous music) (coins clanking)

Okay.

Who are these beings?

Creative power, the Creator.

What do these experiences mean?

(coins clanking)

What do these experiences mean?
(whispering)

Eight.

39.

Hm, obstacles.

What do these experiences mean?

Obstacles.

Why did these beings choose me?

(coins clanking)

(ominous music)

Okay, let me see what that one
is.

Advancement. (phone rings)

It must be Doug.

- [Doug] Just ring the bell?

Yes, I'll be down in a minute.

- The original Thing, I love.
- Yes.

- With James Arness.

- I have a few of those.
- Yeah.

That was always a very,
very effective film.

- [Interviewer] How do you know
David?

- I'd heard about you at first.

And then when I met David,

I went into where you
were working at Lisa's.

- Right.
- And I introduced myself.

I don't have these kinds
of experiences at all,

but I'm very, very, good for
some reason at spotting things.

One of the reasons why I think

I'm good at it is I actually
look up.

When everybody else is walking
around

in this town with their head
down.

The closest thing that I've had

when I was seeing something was

a sort of a very spiritual
feeling.

It was a cooler day, and
it was brilliant blue out.

And I was ready to see
something.

And I sat on my church steps on

7th and Jefferson, the St. Ann's
Church.

I sat there, camera here, just
watching,

and watching, and waiting.

And one of the most beautiful
sights,

a whitish pearlescent
orb came over my head,

stopped directly above me,

I took about 20 pictures of it.

It was beautiful, a diffused
pearlescent orb.

And the second I looked down
to do something on my camera,

(fingers snap) it was gone.

I'm working on an interesting
series

of paintings about
whistleblowers.

I'm up to almost 60
portraits of whistleblowers.

The town councilor in Whitby,
England,

that means he held a political
position

and was elected after
he came out admitting

that his parents were mantid
beings.

So, can you imagine that?

He comes out in public and
admits

that his real mother
is like a mantid being.

And David paints the mantids,
which is interesting.

And he admitted that, and they
still

re-elected him as town
councilor.

(music stops)

- [Jeffrey] Okay, you ready?

- [Interviewer] Yeah, who is
this guy?

- That's Bigfoot.

- [Interviewer] And
what's his significance?

- He guards our door and holds
our hats.

(ethereal music)

Some of the best and most
popular

science fiction writers of all
time

had jaw dropping paranormal
experiences.

And that's why they wrote
the stories they wrote.

It's the paranormal that
produces

the science fiction,

and then the science fiction
loops back

and influences the paranormal.

It's not just that David
remembers

abduction experiences because he
has

a thousand VHS tapes of
science fiction movies.

It's that he actually collected
a thousand

VHS tapes because he had
an abduction experience.

It goes both ways I think.

When I spoke to David, I heard
a man who is very sincere,

very simple in many ways, whom
I really liked immediately.

I mean, he just exudes this

kind of humane personable
nature.

And I heard a man who was just
telling us

the truth as best he could
without

a whole lot of interpretive
overlay.

Kind of a humility there.

He's clearly working
through his experiences,

and his suffering, and his
joy all at the same time.

I'm a professor of religion
at Rice University.

I am a historian of religions,

which means I compare
religious experiences,

kind of across space and time.

The first half of my career,

I wrote about erotic forms of
mysticism.

People's extreme religious
experiences

that were also sexual in some
way.

It's extremely common actually
in the history of religions.

And that's really what brought
me to

the theme of the alien
abduction literature.

So, really, the alien
abduction literature,

in my own mind, is simply a
modern secular

form of mystical literature.

I mean, the whole history of
religions

is essentially about weird
beings

coming from the sky and doing

strange things to human beings.

And historically, those
events or encounters

had been framed as angels, or
demons,

or Gods, or Goddesses, or what
have you.

But in the modern sort of
secular world we live in,

they get framed in sort
of science fiction.

Most people, when they
think of the sacred,

who are not trained in the
field,

think of the holy as the good.

So, being holy is about being
nice.

But actually, when a
human being encounters

the sacred, it's a terrifying
experience,

and it's an ecstatic experience.

You are being split open.

So, I'm not surprised at all to
see

someone like David say it was
scary

and then to paint some of
these terrifying images,

and to insist that it was the
most

pleasurable events of his life.

And he'd do it again in a
heartbeat.

I myself actually had such an
experience

in Calcutta in 1989.

It was extremely dramatic,

it was extremely erotic, and it
was scary.

It was that single event that,

I think, makes me so sympathetic

to people who've had these
experiences,

because I know they happen.

You can't tell me they don't
happen.

It happened to me, and I know it
happens.

I absolutely think David's being
genuine.

You certainly can't talk to
him without thinking that.

He's a very humble man.

But I also believe him because
his story

is so similar to other stories
I've heard

from other people I've worked
with,

and got to know very, very,
well.

I'm completely convinced
they're not lying.

They're being very sincere.

But again, what it is is an
entirely different question.

And that's where I think we
need a lot more humility.

- Believing is like a funny
thing.

It's like, unless we really
experience something,

we may often say we believe,
but we really don't.

I look at the character of a
person,

then I look at "what is the
motive?"

I mean, there's no motive.

This is one of the things I
thought about.

David has no motive to be
telling anything

other than what's real for him.

It's not like he's raking
in millions of dollars.

There doesn't seem to
be any kind of motive.

- I would think that initially,

if they're not familiar with the
subject,

they say, "This is
fantasy, this is fiction."

"This is made up to sell
paintings," and all that.

And others say, "You must be
kidding me."

"There's something wrong with
you," or,

"See a psychiatrist, or
something."

Some say maybe, maybe, the
maybe is very important,

maybe it can be.

- There is always a possibility
that

there are other explanations.

But I think the fact that there
are

a lot of people in the world
that have

had so many similar encounters
in so many different ways,

so many different parts of the
world

without any form of
communication,

that I think this is probably
the best explanation.

(ethereal music)

- [Interviewer] Do you
believe in extraterrestrials?

- Yes.

I always believed there
was alien life out there.

We cannot be the only ones
in the universe alone.

(ethereal music)

- I never seen any astronauts.

I never seen any. (chuckles)

But I do believe that they
exist.

And I believe certain people can
see them.

- I don't ask anyone
to believe a word I say

in regard to whatever this is.

That's the sketch when I
thought the baby had died.

I was doubting myself,

but I knew that the experiences
were real,

because I've seen them when I'm
awake.

I mean, the little hairy
guy, the insect being,

the guys floating down
from out of the sky.

Those were not dreams.

You wanna say they're
interplanetary, fine.

They're intergalactic, fine.

Another universe, fine.

Another dimension, I don't know.

I just don't know.

You know, it doesn't really
matter to me.

I know they exist, I know
they're real,

and that's enough for me.

I mean, if they ever tell
me where they're from,

I'll let you know.

(ethereal music)

I miss her, but she's where
she is, and I am where I am.

I don't know what else to say.

- [Interviewer] Would you
have left the Earth forever

to stay the rest of your life
with her?

- I think so, yes.

(ethereal music)

I mean, if they had said yes,
I would've gone with them,

and I would've stayed.

But it didn't work out that way.

No, I don't think I
would've missed it at all.

I would not have missed Earth at
all.

(music gets louder)

The Earth is getting warmer,
and warmer, and warmer,

floods, tornadoes, fires,
plus the war on terrorism.

No, I wouldn't miss this.

I wouldn't miss it at all.

(music crescendos then cuts)

- Maybe in the center of eye
level.

And then I'll sort of build out,

so I just put a little cluster
around it.

- [Man] Yeah.

- I'll suppose I'll get it so

it doesn't look so cluttered.

If I have it side by side like
that,

that's gonna look a little
too... (crushing sound)

(ambient music)

- I think there it is.

Okay.

(ambient music)

- [Interviewer] So, David,
what are you feeling now?

- I feel fine.

I mean, I'm not nervous
or anything like that.

- [Interviewer] Are you excited?

- Yeah.

The paintings are gonna be the
impression.

Whatever they think is what they
think.

- [Interviewer] When
showing publicly like this,

what do you hope people take
away?

- That there is another reality,

and that, well that's basically
someone else.

(ambient music)

When I was seventeen.

(chuckles)

- [Interviewer] Why are you
chuckling?

- Oh, it's just the expression
on my face.

Yeah, it's a nice space.

(quirky uplifting music)

(people murmuring)

- The atmosphere is really
incredible.

Like you just kinda feel
like you're in this room.

(people murmuring)

- I really like it.

I like that it's kinda open.

It adds something to it, and
I really love the colors.

I just find it really
soothing to look at it.

- This might not be so bad.

- [Interviewer] Right. (laughs)

- Yeah, I had an experience.

I don't remember it in
as much detail as you,

but I do remember being
taken aboard a ship,

and then also given a little

child to hold, a little hybrid
child.

I don't have this level of
detail.

When you look at these, it
could stimulate a memory.

- And is that like an
alien bug, or what is the--

- That's the praying mantis type
being.

- Okay.

- He's not a bug.

- I'm not even sure, I think he

looks more like this or that.
- Okay.

- And there is this door, an
opening,

and was filled with all this
light.

And then I had to come out.

And the next morning I woke up.

Man I was so energetic, and I am
so

energized you would not believe.

Somebody pushes my head forward,

and I start nursing on the
breast again.

Teaching them how to nurse.

- Yeah.

- Anyway, I--

- You're teaching the
babies how to nurse.

- Yes.

And I turned around, and he is
coming

right out of the woods straight
toward me.

I hear three beeps: beep, beep,
beep.

It was instantaneous,
it was like clockwork.

- Did they always take you,

or did they sometimes come
visit?

- Oh, they come and visit.

- Oh, they do?

- Yeah, this takes place in my
bedroom.

- Oh, okay.

- [Man] Does this still reoccur?

- Yes.

- Continues to reoccur?

That's fascinating.

- [Man] When did you sort of
decide to start?

- I was with the beings one day,

and they said, "Let David do
paintings"

So, I started doing the
paintings.

It was a catharsis.

I mean, alright I've done one
painting.

Let me do another one,

another, and another,
and another, and another.

I've got about a hundred
paintings.

And that was it, that was it.

(people murmuring)
- That one.

- That one that has a kind of
urn head.

(quirky uplifting music)

- [Interviewer] What was that
like?

- Oh, I enjoyed it very much.

I'm so glad that people enjoyed
my work.

They found it informative,

off the wall. (laughs)

(turn signal clicking)

Full moon is out tonight.

(quirky uplifting music)

- [Interviewer] Do you have any

last thoughts on the
night or parting words?

- No, except I had a very good
time,

and I enjoyed myself immensely.

It was nice watching people's
faces

as they were looking at the
paintings.

(quirky uplifting music)

All right, I'm gonna get out.

You got everything that you
need?

- [Interviewer] Yeah, thanks.

- [David] Uh-huh, you too.

(music fades)

- We have come to visit you in
peace

and with good will.

- I think what I like about this
movie

is that it's the people
that are the savages,

and he's the one that's
civilized.