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[THUNDER CRASHING]

[SOMBER MUSIC PLAYING]

Deep in the heart of Kentucky,
a man is building an ark.

He doesn't think
he's the new Noah,

but he does think
the Biblestory
may in fact be factual,

and he wants to open a theme park to make the case.

[THUNDER CONTINUES RUMBLING]

FEMALE NEWSREADER:
The $100 million Ark

is expected to draw about
1.4 million people a year.

Folks here in Williamstown say
the ark is a once in
a lifetime opportunity.

That would be incredible
to go see.

[HORSE NEIGHS]

WOMAN: There's gonna be
scientists on site

to talk with folk about what Noah's Ark is all about.

This is monumental.
It's huge.

It's... Oh, my goodness!

Did man and dinosaurs
live together?

MAN: Folks in awe.

[SOMBER MUSIC CONTINUES]

MAN: When finished,
his ark will be
seven stories tall

and a football field,
and a half long.

Kentucky's tourism department
has awarded $18 million
in tax breaks

for a biblical theme park.

They wanna set up
the Noah's Ark theme park.

That's all fine.
I'm all happy with that.

Let them use
their own money.

[SOMBER MUSIC CONTINUES]

[ANIMAL ROARS]

REPORTER: People get off
the interstate to come to
the Ark Encounter...

They're going to
encounter this first.

[PROTESTERS CHANTING
INDISTINCTLY]

The Ark Encounter is immoral,
impossible, and un-American.

There's all kinds
of stuff in there
that's not in the Bible.

[THUNDER RUMBLES]

[SOMBER MUSIC CONTINUES]

PATRICK MARSH:
The Ark Encounter is,
is a project

which ultimately will
entail 800 acres.

And it's
a 510 feet long ship

set 12 feet
off of the ground.

It's gonna be about 65 feet
if you're standing
on the top of it.

This is something
I think that has a great
lasting ability

to be able really
introduce people

to biblical truth
and biblical history.

So, yeah, I would ultimately
say this is gonna be
the greatest thing

I will have... Ever had
a chance to do.

This first phase is, uh,
something like $57 million.

The whole...

The whole park itself is
somewhere around $160 million.

People will enter it
from behind here,

all of the queue lines
that we have are all
teaching queue lines.

So basically, you're really
kind of learning about

the pre-flood culture
as you walk along.

Really starting all the way
from Adam in the beginning
of creation.

Well, the Ark is just
one huge museum

in the way that it functions.

[SOMBER MUSIC PLAYING]

[MUSIC CONTINUES]

[PEOPLE CHATTING]

[MUSIC CONTINUES]

Check one, check two,
check, check.

Um, I'm speaking,
I think...

[LAUGHS]
Oh, on the relevance,
I'm pretty sure.

I do one of two talks,
usually.

But I'm pretty sure
it's on the relevance
of Genesis.

So kind of focusing on
how that's relevant
in our culture today,

and young people
leaving the church.

It's a pleasure to be here
with you this afternoon.

and to talk with you
about creation vs. evolution,

is Genesisrelevant?

And what we're going
to talk about...

We live in a very
visual society,

and we wanna...
We wanna be able

to bring that same level
that you see

for example
at the Smithsonian,

but without the evolutionary
indoctrination.

The evolutionary fairytale,
so to speak.

We need to
educate our children
from a very young age

about the truthfulness
and authority of God's word,

because they are hearing
all of this stuff out there
in the world

about dinosaurs
and millions of years,
and evolution...

We know from scripture that
if you look at the genealogies,

especially those in
Genesischapter five
and eleven.

It tells the names of people,

how old they were
when they died.

So, we can actually
add those ages up.

And if you go from
Adam to Abraham,

you'll see
there's about 2,000 years.

And from other genealogy,

we know there's about
2,000 years between
Abraham and Christ.

And we, of course, know
there's about 2,000 years
between Christ and today.

So that gives us
a grand total of 6,000 years.

There's only 6,000 years,
not millions and millions
of years

being possible.

If we don't take
what the Biblesays
in one part as true,

then it becomes a problem
for the rest of the scripture.

And that's really what
this is about.

And is it all true,
or is only a part
of it true?

Because if only
a part of it's true,

then how do you know
any of it's true?

The scripture doesn't need
anything other than itself,

because it is
the ultimate authority,

and it is true, so therefore,
whatever it says is true.

Because it's the inerrant
the word of God, so...

But because it's true,

we would expect science
to be consistent with it,

and confirm it.
And it does.

We've actually gotten
to the point in our home

that we do not use
the term "Biblestory"
anymore.

It has been outlawed.

We will say Bibleaccount,

Bibleevent, Biblehistory,

but it's not a story.

These are things
that really happened.

This is true.

One of our themes this year
is about rescuing our kids,

from the evolutionary ideas
of millions of years,

because it's just rampant
in material for children.

Whether it be cartoons,
or books, or school.

We have a lot of stationary
of dinosaurs,

as well as several
animatronic dinosaurs.

[ROARING]

Because kids really
are fascinated by them.

And there's just something
about, you know, going out
into the museum

and seeing these dinosaurs

and seeing all those things
that you might see

at a "regular" museum
so to speak.

But from a very
different perspective.

[DINOSAUR SCREECHING]

Our design team has been
working really hard

on putting together an exhibit donated to us.

I think it's one of
the largest Allosaurus
ever discovered.

And so, that's just great
for us,

to be able to display
something just as fine

as what
the Smithsonian Museum
would do.

Because we believe that
these things are not
millions of years old.

They're actually only
thousands of years old.

For some reason,
after the flood,

just like with
a lot of other organisms,

the animals weren't able
to survive,

and so, they've become
extinct today.

As far as we know,
they've become extinct today.

I'm very excited, yeah.

Yeah. It's gonna be awesome.

Oh, sorry, man.

When a guy comes at you
with a dinosaur femur,
you get out of the way.

-[MEN SPEAK INDISTINCTLY]
-Yeah.

As a Creation museum,
this is great for us.

We believe in dinosaurs.
People think we don't
believe in dinosaurs.

We believe in dinosaurs.
We believe that, um,

dinosaurs and man
lived at the same time.

TheBible does talk
about Creation Week.

And all the mammals
and human were created
on day six.

So, that would mean
that they were on
the same day.

Does it just have
one clavicle?

-Yeah.
-I didn't know that.

-A furcula.
It's a fused spine.
-Furcula.

Oh, that is weird.

I think that it's just
a really cool thing to have

a, a real dinosaur

of this caliber.

This is a fossil created
during Noah's Flood.

And so we're gonna have signage
that teaches about that idea.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, wait a minute.
Oh, that looks nice.

I like that.

It's easy to read.

If there was a global flood,
you would expect to find

billions of dead things
buried in rock,

laid down by water
all over the Earth.

And that's exactly
what we find.

We look at all these layers
of sediment not as a record
of millions of years,

uh, of life on Earth,

but rather as a record of burial during Noah's Flood.

I just wanna take a minute

and thank the Lord
for getting this in here.

Father, thank you so much
that you've,

um, allowed all this
to come together.

Thank you that
we can have this fossil,

and it's just
a really cool thing.

Thank you
for the testimony
that it is of the flood.

Of the judgement
of the flood,

and ultimately,
of your reality.

And uh...
Just thank you so much.

And especially I wanna
thank you for Jesus.

And it's in his name I pray.

Amen.

Okay, we're gonna get it
unveiled here.

We're going to open
and dedicate

a new exhibit here
at the Creation Museum.

Before we unveil
this beautiful fossil
and the reconstruction,

I just want to mention
something about
the new Ark Project.

It'll be open in 2016,
by the way.

A life size Noah's Ark
is being constructed.

Okay. Now if we're ready
for the exhibit
to be unveiled,

we shall take down
the plastic curtain.

[CROWD EXCLAIMING]

[PEOPLE SINGING] ♪ I don't believe in evolution

♪ I know creation is true

♪ I believe that God above
created me and you

♪ So praise His name
and what he says...

[SINGING CONTINUES
INDISTINCTLY]

[INAUDIBLE DIALOG]

♪ I don't believe in evolution I know creation is true

♪ I don't believe in evolution I know creation is true ♪

[SERENE MUSIC PLAYING]

DAVID MACMILLAN:
When I started talking
about the Ark Encounter

and getting it all set up,

I was really excited
'cause I was still
a Creationist.

I thought, "Wow, we'll get a whole scale model of the ark.

"That's not been done."

I really wanted them
to really go into detail

and show how it all could have worked.

I prefer to use
the term "indoctrination".

These ideas are
very deeply imbedded.

You hear them over and over
and over again

that theBible
has to be history.

If you go over,

if you believe in evolution,
you're hurting the gospel.

You're making it hard
for people to get saved.

Next thing you know, you're going to be a raving atheist, feminist, communist,

and you're just gonna
give up everything.

I had a lot of people
tell me

that you're attacking God.

That you're,
you're trying to...
You hate God.

You are...
You are out to...

Out to take people
away from God.

And, and, you know...
And I... And I wasn't.

That was difficult.

Because when you grow up
believing that

this is the only way
to hold Christianity,

you lose creationism,
and suddenly you're like,

"Wait, do I still keep...
Am I still a Christian here?
What do I do?"

This is a picture
of me and Ken Ham.

I was probably
about 16 at the time.

And I said, "Hey, Mom and Dad.
I'm going to earn some money

"and I'm going to one be
of the Lifetime Charter Members
there,

"because this is something
that's important to me."

And then, uh, they sent me
a polo as well.

It's a nice
Creation Museum polo.

It still fits.

And, so I was really thrilled
about this as well.

I wore this to Creation Museum
when I was taking some
of my friends there,

and everyone thought
that I worked there,

and I was flattered,
of course, about that.

And, uh, I still have...

Let's see.
I still have my, um...

My Creation Museum
membership card.

Here's that.

It's got a nice
dinosaur eye there.

Um, and it says,
"Prepare to believe."

And there's my name.

And this entitles me
to free admission

with four guests,

and free planetarium passes.

So...

[INTERVIEWER SPEAKING]

I don't know.

There are a lot of gaps in
just the average lay person's
understanding of science,

and so,
Creationism comes in
and fills those gaps

with things that
aren't quite right.

They're just wrong enough
to make it sound good.

And that's why
as a Creationist,

I thought that I knew
way more science
than the average person,

because I had
so much more information.

I had all of these gaps
filled in.

I just had 'em filled in
with the wrong ideas.

So I wanted to just share it

if there are people
who are interested

in how Creationism
is based

and why people
believe these things.

I wanted to be able
to share my experiences.

And that's something
that people have been
very receptive to.

I've had a lot of readers,

and I also send it to
the science editor
ofHuffington Post.

And then it got picked up
as well

byLexington Herald Leader.

The approach
from most Creationists
has been very, very hostile.

"Stop being angry at God.

"Stop being offended at God.

"God's waiting for you."
Stuff like that.

And that's...
that's... that's...

Well, frustrating,
because I'm a Christian.

I'm not... I haven't...
I haven't left anything.

[STUTTERING] It's...

And that's just
this assumption that

it comes from evolution
and deep time,
and all these things.

They come from this
philosophy of atheism.

That that's where they're based.

And that's just not true.

DAN PHELPS: And it's 25 after,
so we should probably
be heading on.

All right, well...

We're gonna turn
right out of here

and then get on
this road.

The white hallway.

Here in Kentucky,

we have lots of
hilly topography.

When the highways are built,
they go through the rock,

and leave these
outcrops behind.

Which are always wonderful
for geologists
and paleontologists.

I mean, it's one of
the great things about
the masonal area

is the collecting
is just so easy.

Side of the road, um...

It's a little bit gray area

whether we're allowed
to collect.

But I've had state troopers
help me collect before, so...

Usually, if you're not drunk,
or anything like that,

they won't kick you off
the outcrops.

Or at most,
they'll ask you to leave.

People honk at you
and sometimes throw
beer cans.

[CHUCKLES]

Well, I think I got this
for Christmas

in probably 1967,
or 1968.

And when I was in high school, in the late 1970s,

we had a little bit
evolutionally talked
about genetics.

But the chapter on evolution,
the book was so cool,

and I had all these fossils
I was gonna bring in to class

to show the teacher.

We ran out of time.

And we just didn't have that.

Darn!
We just ran out of time.

We had plenty of time
to talk about the coach's
track victories,

or the track team.

But we didn't have time
to talk about evolution
in biology class.

And by the time I was
in my second semester
of college,

it was a big deal here.

The local community wanted Creationism taught in schools.

And the schoolboard
was divided to two,

with one undecided member.

And I got involved in this
quite early.

I was writing letters to
the editor pretty much

at the end of high school
and college that summer.

This is one time I really wish
the James Bondjetpack

had been perfected.

[LAUGHS]

It seems like always
the very nice place
to collect

is something like this
where you have to climb
over all this stuff,

and your feet will ache
tomorrow morning,

from stepping on
all these rocks.

Pretty neat bottom feature.
I'm not sure what it is.

I don't know what causes that.

It's interesting.

I was thinking at first
it might be a trace fossil
of some sort,

and it could be.

But sometimes
you just don't know.

That's the strength
of science, though.

We don't say that we know it,

and then refuse
to change our answer.

In science, it's all right
to say, "I don't know.

"Might never know.

"Might think you know
and might be wrong."

But you can change your mind
based on the evidence,

not because of some sort
of religious dogma.

There's videos of Ken Ham
on the Internet

talking to groups
of school kids.

He'll say things like,

"When a scientist says
a certain rock
is such and such

"millions of years old,
what do you say?"

And he'll tell them to say,
"Were you there?"

As if you had to be there

in order to make
an interpretation of
the geological past.

And you don't have
to be there.

You can observe evidence
in the present

and see things
and figure out

just like forensic science,

what happened in the past.

There's just so many
different crazy things

that would have to be
changed about the world

if we did things the way
the Creationists
are doing geology.

That's my rant, I guess,
for right now.

[CHUCKLES]

MAN: You ready?

KIDS: Yeah!

Okay.

[SPEAKING]

Sixth day.

[SPEAKING]

[CLOCK TICKING]

[THUNDER RUMBLING]

[PEOPLE SCREAM]

[INTENSE MUSIC PLAYING]

I'm Mark Looy,
and welcome
to another milestone

in the construction
of this life size Noah's Ark

behind me.

It's going to be
an impressive structure
when it opens,

Lord willing,
summer of next year.

Let me introduce Ken Ham,
our president.

He is the visionary

behind the Ark Encounter,
and he'll say a few words here

and then we'll lead you on
a tour of the Ark.

Ken.

Okay. Thank you, Mark.
And good morning
and thank you for coming.

The ark itself is going
to be built up on that platform
that you see.

Now, that concrete platform,

that pre-cast concrete
that you see there

won't be visible
when it's open.

The whole point of this park

is to teach people
that these biblical events

were real history,
in real time,

that actually happened.

So that's really
what this is all about.

That there really
was a flood.

It's not a bathtub ark,

he created a real ark,
for a real flood,

that probably destroyed

upwards of 10 billion
people on the Earth.

We've got an ark
that was created
to save eight people

and the rest of the population
was literally obliterated,

because God was really unhappy
with what He did.

That's what the Biblesays.

[SOMBER MUSIC PLAYING]

I'm gonna say,
come January,

we, the design team

can actually get inside there

and start installing exhibits.

So that's really gonna be
the next thing.

[SPEAKING]

Even more watered down?

[CHUCKLING]

You barely...
You just barely want
to adjust it.

So you almost want it just
to be water with a little bit
of yellow in it?

That's a good way
to put it.

Okay.

DOUG HENDERSON: Since the last time we talked,

we were working on
Allosaur at that point.

And a totally different team

was working on designing
the ark.

And I actually at that point,

I didn't think I was going
to get to work on the ark,

because we had
a special team for that.

And at some point, um,

I was switched over
to full time on the ark.

And... Which is awesome.
It's a dream job.

Almost everything
that you're seeing
is going into the ark

to represent animals
that were on the ark

to be saved from the flood.

A lot of people
falsely think that

Noah had to take
two of every species
of animal,

of which there's
millions and millions.

You know,
people make jokes
about that.

[SPEAKING]

But no, no, no.
It would have been
far fewer numbers,

in just a few thousands,

because just like, um,
you know, you've got dogs,

you don't need
all the varieties of dogs,

you just need two dogs

and then breed out
everything else.

So the same thing is true
with all of the animals.

So that's why theBible
specifically says "kinds".

[MACHINE WHIRRING]

What... What are you
cutting right now?

[SPEAKING]

It's some scientific name.

It's a really weird looking,
almost turtle looking thing.

Got a tiny head
and a really big body.

But it's not related
to a turtle.

So these are all printed
on our 3D printer.

And then, all these people...

This is gonna be obviously
Tower of Babel display.

Panic? No.

Occasionally I will lay awake

thinking of, you know,
what's next,

and how strategically
how are we gonna
get all this done.

We got out first furred
pair of animals done.

This is
a saber-toothed marsupial.

And then, here's one that's
all curled up and sleeping.

I feel like this is what
I've been preparing
for all my life.

And so I feel like that.

That sort of
hits me like a wave
every once in a while,

just purpose.

Everybody who works
for Answers in Genesis
is a Creationist.

I actually have been
a Creationist

as long as I've been alive
basically.

But I actually went through

a period where I kind of
was questioning that.

I thought, well, they seem
to have some good points

about how the Earth
can probably be
really, really old.

And I was like,
maybe the Earth is
millions of years old.

It doesn't matter, really.

And then...
And then when I met Ken,

and he just said
the Earth can't really be
millions of years old,

if death and suffering came in when Adam and Eve sinned.

Because you couldn't have
millions of years of death
and suffering

before sin,
if that's the case. So...

It wasn't that I came back
from not believing in
six-day creation,

but at the same time,

I realized it was more
important than I had even
thought it was originally.

This is actually
a grandfather
of the giraffes.

And then, this is
a classic stegosaurus.

This one's reclining.

[MAN SPEAKING]

Yes. Very important.

On the ark,
we're assuming that...

We're assuming,
'cause it doesn't say,

but it would make sense
for him to take
younger animals,

because they would
eat less,

and they would have a chance
to live longer after the flood.

So it just made sense
they were going to be younger.

Plus, they take up
so much less space.

You know,
you think of dinosaurs,
you think, "Oh, my goodness.

"He'd never be able
to get those on the ark."

Well, the eggs of dinosaurs
are only this big.

T-Rex when it was born
was only that big.

So, you can have a juvenile,
no problem.

So, yeah, stegs got big.
These things got really big.

Not as big as T-Rex.

That's what the guys
are working on in there.

I think a lot of people
when they look at these,

will assume that
they are raptors,

because they are
so similar in size.

But even though
T-Rex got to be
about 40 feet long,

we're representing them
as juveniles.

I don't feel like
I'm gonna just talk to you

and convert you
as you walk out the door.

But I want you to see
that I'm a normal person.

I am not crazy.

But I do believe
in all of this,

and any opportunity I get
to talk about it, I'll take it.

Hey, this ape's almost done.

Just a couple little
final touches.

I think you've seen that
in several stages
along the way.

HAM: When you
create a park like this,
you've gotta do two things.

You gotta entertain people,

you want them to have fun,

but you also want
to teach them.

And so, we have a section
within the walled city

as I'm calling
the entrance area there,

where we will bring
people through,

that will literally show them
what we think is going on

during that period of time.

And it's a lot like
walking through
Main Street, Disney,

where you've got food,
and you've got entertainment,

and you've got crafts,
and you've got, you know,

things, gifts, shopping,
all of that kind of stuff.

So, as you walk through that,

plus, you know,
with the live entertainment
and the shows that we'll do,

we'll give you
what our rendition is

of what we think the culture
was very much like.

And you know,
it's gonna be graphic
in a lot of ways,

so you can decide whether
you wanna take your children
through it or not.

[WOMAN SPEAKING]

Well, let's talk about
the society that we have today.

We have crime,
we have rampant sex
out of marriage,

We have
all kinds of deviations

that are going on
within our society today.

You know, so much of it
has fallen apart.

When I was a kid
growing up,

everybody was married,
everybody went to church.

You know, and the American
society was very different
than it is today.

God says,
"That's the kind of stuff
that I'm gonna judge."

And so, that's basically
the kind of thing

I think on a more extreme level

that we'll be showing
within the Walled City itself.

You've got slavery,
you've got bestiality,

you've got all kinds
of crazy stuff

that's going on, and--

[WOMAN SPEAKING]

Uh, you'll just have
to wait and see.

Tonight,
a biblical based theme park

is creating controversy.

It's about whether
the government
is too involved

in helping to build it.

Democratic Governor
Steve Beshar

said that government
is very excited about it,

and explained why.

The numbers alone
tell the tale.

This is a $150 million
investment

that is projected to create
nearly 900 jobs

including almost
550 full-time jobs.

Folks here in Williamstown say
the ark is a once in
a lifetime opportunity.

The county went through
some hard economic times

several years ago.

But they are hopeful
that will change now
with the ark.

DAN PHELPS: It looks like
a very neighborly type
place to live and all.

It looks very nice
for the most part.
Nice small town.

Horrible financial situation,

so you understand
why they're so desperate.

I really feel sorry
for the town.

REPORTER: President and CEO
of Answers in Genesis

and Ark Encounter, Ken Ham,

believes the ark
will generate
$4 billion in revenue,

and bring 20,000 jobs
to the region
over the next 10 years.

DAN PHELPS: The locals seem to be completely snowed in by this.

They were pretty much told
that the streets will
be paved with gold.

The mayor
even told the citizens

that their utility rates
would go down

because of the ARK Park.

It just seems
so flim-flamish

that I can't really envision things turning out like Ken Ham says they're gonna turn out.

One of the first
things I did
when I started

opposing the ARK Park

is I got a subscription
to the Grant County News.

So I was able to get
a sort of inside source
of information.

And I have lots of stories
going all the way
back from...

This is 2012.
"ARK Park moving slowly."

They'll have guest columns
by Ken Ham.

They occasionally have

op-eds by various Creationists

including Mark Looy,
one of the spokespeople
for Answers in Genesis.

This one might be replying
to something I wrote.

He didn't mention me
by name at all in his reply.

This is when they started
some of the construction.

Ark taking shape.

People that visit the ark,

they have to pay sales tax.

And Answers in Genesis,
they get back

up to like $1.8 million
per year

of the tax money
they normally would send
to the state coffers.

So, instead of the state
getting the money,

Answers in Genesis gets
to keep a good portion

of their sales tax.

I got on the Answers
in Genesis website,

and I got on there
and I looked at
the employment thing,

and lo and behold,
there was one for a CAD,

a Computer Assisted
Design Operator

specifically for the ARK Park.

And basically what I found

was they required
the salvation history,

the agreement for
the Answers in Genesis
Statement of Faith.

All these different things

that even included

what church you went to,
and things like that.

I've never seen a job,
not even for a janitor

that didn't require
the Belief Statement.

If you're getting any
sort of public funding,

and all at once you only hire
certain people based on
their religious beliefs,

that contradicts the idea

that you're actually
helping the economy.

You're just helping
a specific religious sect.

So I wrote the op-ed
where I wrote
the Herald Leader

about the discovery
that they were discriminating
in hiring.

Unfortunately,
the Herald Leader said,

"Non-Christians
need not apply."

And actually, most Christians
are not eligible for jobs
at the ARK Park.

It's not just unbelievers,

Jewish people, Muslims,

Mormons, anything like that.

Mainstream Protestants
and Catholics

and even old-Earth Creationists

would not be eligible
for hiring.

Americans United
jumped on it,

and sent a formal letter
to Kentucky Tourism

about the tax incentive.

ROB BOSTON: One of the most
frustrating things about
this whole situation

is that Ken Ham continually
tried to play on both sides.

He would argue that,
"Oh, the ARK Park is really
just a tourist attraction.

"And we're
welcoming everybody.
It's all right."

HOST: Mr. Ham,
do you see this park

as part of a ministry,
as essentially a church,

or is it purely business?

Uh, well, actually
the ARK Encounter is

a profit organization

that's set up to give
a particular view of
biblical history--

ROB BOSTON: But then,
he would then tell
his supporters

that it was designed
to proselytize

and convince people
of the truth of
the story of Noah's Ark,

and the truth of the Bible,

and persuade them to adopt
the religious views

favored by some
Fundamentalist Christians.

Think of
a Christian facility...

But I believe it.

...that stands on
the word of God,

and 132 Ark bays
with exhibits.

And it's gonna really show
that we can give answers

and challenge them
that they need to put
their faith and trust

in the Lord Jesus Christ.

So it's an Evangelistic ark.

We have many, many...

You can't have it both ways.
And that's where we really
have the problem.

CHRIS CALDWELL:
Americans United for
Separation of Church and State

contacted me and asked me

if I would be willing to be
party to their legal action.

I readily agreed to do so.

Because they thought
it was important
to represent the fact

that there are
religious people,
deeply religious people

who are also uncomfortable
with those sorts of

government benefits going to
a religious purpose.

I think implicit
in the idea of

the separation
of Church and State

is humility.

That no one religion,
no one philosophy

has all the answers.

And they're very confident
in what they believe,

and they have strong
reservations about me.

I'm confident in
what I believe, too.

And I believe if you allow
the free flow of ideas,

that a more mature faith
is going to do well
in that conversation.

And so,
I would just encourage
more conversation,

and I think that
the scripture says

"You shall know the truth,
and the truth shall
make you free."

DAN PHELPS:
And at that point,

December of 2014,

the state basically said,
"No, we're not gonna
give you this tax incentive."

You don't really realize
until a particular religion

manages to take over
an entire county
and city government

and get them to do
everything that they're asked,

how important the separation
of church and state is.

Park officials are
seeking legal action

after being denied
tax incentives.

The Commonwealth says
it cannot give tax incentives
to a company that quote,

"Intends to discriminate
in hiring its employees
based on religion."

MALE REPORTER: The Ark's parent organization, Answers in Genesis,

has launched
a billboard campaign

to bolster supporters.

Federal lawsuit could
soon follow.

DAN PHELPS:
Throughout this
whole debate,

Ken Ham continued
to insist

that he was not receiving
any state support.

And he would get mad
when we said that he was.

And let me say this
for all the media.

Not one cent

has come from taxpayer money.

[CROWD CHEERS]

[OMINOUS MUSIC PLAYING]

And he won by a rather
large margin actually,

in spite of being
five points behind
in the polls.

ROB BOSTON: Governor Bevin is a Fundamentalist Christian.

You could be an atheist
and you would appreciate
there's a lot of wisdom

in the Bible.

He has tweeted pictures
of himself visiting
the ARK park.

The governor came in
at just the time

when it would have been decided

what's gonna happen
with his ruling.

And the governor
had campaigned

in part on the idea
that he would
support the ARK park.

Basically the judge
bought the idea

that the ARK Park
was just another
tourist attraction,

and that it should get
the same benefits

that similarly situated
attractions have received
in the past.

NEWSREADER: A legal win
for a biblical them park
in Kentucky.

A federal judge says
the state cannot
exclude the park

from a tax incentive program

worth millions of dollars.

We're thrilled, of course,
with the result,

because the judge ruled
in Answers in Genesis' favor.

Tickets are now
available online

for the Ark Encounter.

DAN PHELPS: I really wish
there were more people
helping me fight this.

A lot of the people
that I know scientifically

just won't get
involved with this.

They don't wanna
take the time.

They're like,
"Well, Dan will do it."

And... You know,
maybe if I stop doing
some of the stuff I do,

somebody else will step in
and do something.

But people don't
wanna be unpopular.

They don't wanna say things
that'll draw attention
to themselves.

I've been the object
of several Ken Ham blogpost

specifically aimed at myself.

And maybe people,
they don't wanna have
to deal with

basically bullshit
like that on the side.
I'm not really sure.

It's like, um,

grabbing hold of something
and it gets sticky
all over you.

And if they were
to come forward

and say very much
against the ARK park,

they would have the people
from the ARK park

breathing down
their throats all the time.

It's... It's frustrating.

I mean, people ask me
why I spend so much time
on this,

and this is one of
the reasons why.

I mean, nobody else seems
I think

to give a damn about it.

I mean, I know
they really do,

but they can't really come out and say anything.

[WOMAN SPEAKING]

DAN PHELPS:
I'm tempted all the time.

My family is all gone.

Kentuckians have
a difficult time leaving
the state apparently.

It's one of those places

you always say,
"I'm gonna get
the hell out of here."

And you do, and then
you come back here.

I don't know what it is.

It's sort of a cultural
thing almost.

What would Ken Ham
do without me?

He would miss me,
wouldn't he? I mean...

JAMIE BAKER: The ark puts us
on the map, so to speak.

One of my
favorite headlines
I ever wrote

when I was at the paper
was "Ark brings flood
of possibilities."

I couldn't help it.

I can remember
as a little girl

coming into downtown
and skating in
the skating rink.

And the downtown area
was always bustling
on Saturdays.

And then we went through
the downturn economic times

when you could almost see
the tumbleweeds blow
through downtown.

And now we're
excited because...

we got business
coming back

It's awesome to see
young people
getting excited

about the potential
for our community again.

Okay, so this is
Elmer's General Store.

We've got
hand dipped ice cream,

homemade fried pies
and other desserts.

So we do the old time malts,
milkshakes.

There's sodas
and all that stuff.

Like I said,
we have the vendors
and we're looking for more.

But we have experience
of work in Gatlinburg and
Pigeon Forge.

So we know what
a tourist attraction can do

for a community.
So we're excited.

When you're getting calls
from places like China

and Wisconsin
and Missouri,

people wanna know,
"Where can I stay,
and what can I do?"

We've never had that
in the past.

So you capitalize on that.

MCKAMEY:
I say we serve about
50 at the moment.

You know, it just depends
on days, of course.

We have ups and downs.

But, when we have music shows,
we bring anywhere from 50
to 150.

So we're doing fine,
you know.

We can make it barely.

But the ark
really will help our tourism

and will help the people
come in through the doors.

You know, this time next year, this town is not gonna look like this.

I know they're already
planning on having
shuttle buses

come and drop tourists off
in Williamstown.

So hopefully, you know,
they'll get an ice cream,

or listen to a song
or two here.

It will really help us.

[BANJO TUNING]

So, Jimmy wrote this song
about the ark.

And he's lived here, um...

Jimmy you've lived here,
what about 30 years or so?

-JIMMY: Twenty.
-Twenty?

He's lived here longer
than I've been alive, so...
[CHUCKLES]

[SPEAKING]

-You guys ready?
-Yeah.

[PLAYING COUNTRY MUSIC]

♪ I went up
to the edge of the light

♪ And looked into the dark

♪ Yonder in the field somewhere

♪ I declare I saw the ark

♪ A businessman
stood next to me

♪ He'd come to
bless this county

♪ So come in two by two

♪ 'Cause the ark is in Kentucky

[SPEAKING]

♪ Pretty people moving

♪ No, this ain't no trick

♪ The arc was relocated

♪ On Highway 36

♪ Exit 154

♪ On Highway 36

[PEOPLE CLAPPING]

DAVID MACMILLAN: I haven't been to the Creation Museum in years and years.

I grew up in
Central Kentucky,

and I, of course,
had a lifetime pass
to the Creation Museum.

Here I am getting a picture
with my name on the wall
of Lifetime Charter Members.

Very proud that I was
on the wall there.

I think I may have
subtly dropped that
from time to time

when I was talking to
a girl from a Christian family.

You know, "I'm on the wall
of the Creation Museum."

It was...
It was a big deal.

This is, uh...
I was street preaching

in Huntington Beach
in California.

Did some street preaching.

I've got some money shaped
gospel tracks there,

and I'm explaining
the effects of sin
on the world,

and the importance
of the Genesis,

and the importance
of the ten commandments,

and everything that
goes along with that.

I don't know. There might be
a degree to which I think
back to where I was,

and think what would have
changed my mind.

I... Some of the stuff is new,
so I don't know my way around
at this point anymore.

Hey, where are
the Charter Member plaques?

Are they further on, or...

It should be
right down here.

Right down here? Okay.

I was certain
that I knew everything.

I was really, really,
really prideful

in my knowledge
of Creationism,

and how I knew more
than the scientific
community,

and I knew more than
all of these people

who were just
accepting evolution

without asking questions.

I regret that
I was a big know-it-all.

Ah, it's a...
This is a different person.

This is...
This is someone else.

This is someone
who's lived a long time ago.

Many years ago.

And I don't know...
I don't think
he'd recognize me.

It feels kind of strange.

MAN: This is the king.

The king of
the pre-flood world.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure he talks
in a King Julien voice.

[IMITATING KING JULIEN]
"Whereith, you crazy fool?"
[LAUGHS]

"Welcome to my party."

[CHUCKLING]

Everybody will be rooting
for the water to take him out
at that point.

[LAUGHTER]

TRAVIS: He has no name.
We call him "the King".

So, he's gonna
have this golden,

uh, helmet going on here.

Yeah, he's just
having a good time.

[CHUCKLES SOFTLY]

It's a very...
Very fun diorama
to work on.

A lot of dynamism.

And all these figures
we started with

a 3D scan of actual people.

And then, from there, we take it into the computer,

and we do
a lot of re-sculpting,

uh, tweaking, changing,

reposing in some cases,
but...

But it's really fun stuff.

This is the kind
of thing that

you dream of doing
as a kid, you know.

And I get to do it
as a grown-up.

We're working out
really the face of Noah.

He's the iconic character.

So he's probably the most
important character
that we have.

And of course we got
Ham, Shem, and Japheth.

And then all of their wives.

Noah has to be
a very iconic figure,

because we're not only gonna
use him in pictures like this,
this illustration.

We're gonna use him
in static figures
and animatronic figures.

And also,
we will recreate him
in film as well.

You know, according
to the Bible,he was, um...

-Hey, pal, was it...
-500 years.

-Five-six hundred?
-Yeah.

He's probably equivalent
of a 50-year-old.

About equivalent, yeah,

in the looks about
a 50-year-old.

PATRICK MARSH:
A 50-year-old person
who's in really good shape.

Come on, on the other side.
I'll show you what a couple of
the other designers are doing.

These are some of
the different face concepts

for the wives of the sons.

So I'm just kind of pulling
some different features from
people from all over the world,

so that they show that
it's a compilation

of different characteristics.

So we get to kind
of invent things.

We don't know
what they looked like.

We get from the Bible
that the Ham's descendants

went to the Americas

through Asia, Africa.

And so, we kind of have

a bit of a challenge
to kind of put all those
kinds of features into

the faces of Ham's wife
and Ham.

TAYLOR: Here, you know,
you have Ham's wife.

We, we do research.

We have some
physical features here.

PATRICK MARSH: And so, based upon the characteristics that we find,

some gave you Asian,
some gave you, you know,

a darker, more
Middle-Eastern features.

Some maybe gave you
a more African features, etc.

'Cause you basically...

Everything literally
comes out of these
three couples.

[SPEAKING]

PATRICK MARSH: You know,
middle brown color with
brown eyes and brown hair.

Some as a little darker,
some of the people.

Or a little bit darker,
some a little bit lighter.

TAYLOR: And here's what?

[SPEAKING]

TAYLOR: Light skin tone,
eye color.

Stuff like that. Um...

This is Japheth's wife,
and this scene

that we're doing is deck three,

she's holding a paintbrush
and a cup.

In this torso,

we'll actually change
the hand out

but the arms will stay
in the same position.

And we will use this for

deck two, where she's
holding a broom,
sweeping the floor.

So we try to reuse
as many parts as possible.

JIM HELTON: We're gonna
do a peaceful demonstration.

They have the right
to build their park.

But we also have
the right to protest it

that this story is not
scientifically accurate.

And not only is it not
scientifically accurate,
it's immoral.

The original idea was
to put up a regular billboard
for 30 days.

And if we raised
enough money,
we'd put up a couple.

This was just the shot
that let people know we had...

If you gave us $500,

you can actually take
a photo of yourself,

we want you all wet,
whatever pose,
take several poses,

and we will actually put you
in the billboard
drowning in the ocean.

So it got us a lot of press.

We raised almost $10,000
in a couple of days.

The problem was the
billboard company backed out
when it got all this press.

We didn't expect radio, TV,
papers would pick it up.

NEWSREADER: Atheist group's anti-Ark Encounter billboard is rejected.

Two billboard companies
have refused to display
an advertisement

by an atheist group to
protest the Ark Encounter
Amusement Park

in Kentucky.

Tri-state free thinker,
the president Jim Helton,

welcome to
the Bill Cunningham Show.

Thanks for having me on.

CUNNINGHAM: Now,
why do you say
genocide and incest

somehow is part
of the ark?

I don't know
how else to describe it.

In the story of Noah's Ark,

God drowned everybody.

Now some Christians will say
that people were wicked.

But he drowned everybody.

Even the innocent women,
children, bunny rabbits,
everybody.

That is textbook genocide.

I see no other way
to describe it.

And then he re-populates
the Earth through incest,

for the second time.

CUNNINGHAM:
What do you mean incest?

If you only have one family,

the only way to re-populate

is having sex
within that family.

CUNNINGHAM:
They could have had some
other family

on the top
of the mountain somewhere.

Noah's family and his kids.
That was it.

And keep in mind,
Adam and Eve was
through incest, too,

to populate Earth
for the first time.

So this is
the second story of incest.

And if you go to Ken Ham's
Creation museum,

he says incest is okay,
because God said so.

CUNNINGHAM:
Well, if God says
it's okay, it's okay.

No! Killing people
and incest is not okay.

CUNNINGHAM:
Well, what are you
gonna do about this?

You have two companies
Event Advertising and Lamar,

that said, "Nah, bubba, nah." What do you do now?

A mobile billboard campaign
reached out to us,

and said, "We'll put it up."

But, man,
recently with all the press
it's gotten,

he backed out for fear
of his personal safety.

He did not feel safe
driving it around.

So we have $10,000,

and we cannot find a company
in the State of Kentucky
or Cincinnati

willing to take our money.

CUNNINGHAM:
Have you confronted
Ken Ham on this?

Uh, Ken Ham has...

We have had a back and forth
through Twitter.

He has personally
called me out

half a dozen times on Twitter
this morning alone.

He has blogged about us
several times.

So the reason why
we called this out is

it doesn't stop here.

It seeps into our politics.

It seeps into our law making.

And that's why
we made the stand.

CUNNINGHAM:
Well, you're a heathen
that's gonna burn in Hell,

and if that's the case,

I will say a prayer
to get you out.

If you're lucky,
you'll end up in purgatory,

in which case,
I can help you.

If you're in Hell,
you're beyond my reach.

Then I'll be in good company.

CUNNINGHAM: There'll be a lot of other Hell characters will be down there

and you'll be burning,

and there'll be a million
serpents biting your legs
for eternity.

See, you're threatening me
with torture

which proves my claim
that that's immoral.

Just because I require
facts and evidence

should not be a reason
to torture me forever.

CUNNINGHAM:
Well, you're gonna
burn in Hell.

I'm okay with that.

CUNNINGHAM: All right.
What's your website, if any?

Uh, tristatefreethinkers.com.

CUNNINGHAM:
Well, look. Stay in touch.

All right, I will.

CUNNINGHAM:
God Bless America.

[CHUCKLES]

How'd I do?

I'd like to go protest

a protest.

On July 7th,
a group of atheists

are planning on protesting
the opening of Ken Ham's
Ark Encounter attraction.

Ken Ham was getting ready
to be done with the ark,

and he texted me as said,

"Hey, I just learned
some atheists
are gonna be protesting

"the opening of
the Ark Encounter."

I texted him back and said,
"Man, I would love to be
there for that.

"I would have a great time."

So, here's the deal.

I would love for you
to help me get a team of people

that I've assembled
to the Ark Encounter,

so that we can protest
the protest.

At the end of the day,
what's fun about it is

these are people
that right now,
if my world view is true,

they're on their way
to Hell.

I get the privilege,
I get the joy...

I would say more than fun,
it's joy

of trying to go
into these storms

and rescue people,

and say, "Listen,
you need the truth."

By the way,
don't tell the atheists
that we're coming.

My name is Eric Hovind.

I get the privilege of
traveling around and talking
about creation vs. evolution...

We're seeing a resurgence
of the Creation movement.

People realizing
science doesn't fit
the evolution worldview.

Let's go back
and rethink this.

And so, we're seeing
the Creation movement as
a whole raise back up.

Let me just
tell you something.

Scientifically it is impossible

to maintain a tiny
human population

for millions of years.

And they say we've been here,
humans have been here

around two million years.

The evolution worldview says
that somewhere between
13 and 20 billion years ago,

there was a big bang.

The idea that the universe
came into existence
instantaneously

is exactly what we get
out of Genesis 11.

So the Bibletells us stuff,
it's our authority,

and science is gonna
confirm that.

So I'd like to try
to prove to you...

So you have this idea
of lot of people
believed evolution.

Some people use that
as an argument.

Well, evolution must be true.

The majority
doesn't determine
right and wrong, you know.

Jean-Luc Picard
can tell you a lot about
the starship Enterprise.

That doesn't make it true.

I know people
that can teach me
a lot about evolution

and it doesn't make it true.

The longest wavelength
we see is red.

Well, if God stretched out
the heavens as a curtain,

we would expect to see
the longer of
the wavelengths of light,

which is the red,
of the light.

And everywhere we look,

guess what we're seeing?

The red shift in starlight.

The fact that
our vice-president

is somebody
who believes in Creation.

Um, I think that leads

just even more credibility

to the number of people
out there that go,

"I don't believe this
because I'm ignorant."

"I've thought this through.
I've looked at the information.

"I've concluded...
this is the truth."

It's a... Yeah,
I'm excited that we've got
lots elected officials

that hold to this worldview.

MAN: Do you believe
in evolution, sir?

Um... Do I believe
in evolution?

I embrace the, uh...

The view that God created
the heavens and the Earth

and the seas
and all that's in them.

Right, when you believe
in evolution--

What means...
The means, Chris,

that He used to do that, uh,

I can't say.

But you don't believe that...

You don't take
a Fundamentalist view

of the seven days of creation,
do you?

-[LAUGHS] Chris...
-I'm just asking.

-Do you?
-Chris...

Where are we going
with this?

CHRIS CALDWELL:
The idea that if...

If even one part
of theBible

is not true,
that the whole
thing crumbles,

is a very difficult piece
of terrain to defend.

It seems obvious to me

that science
at multiple levels

clearly has proven
the Earth is more than
6,000 years old.

And why some folks,

um, in the name of
their religion, I assume,

choose to ignore that

and to cling to
a religious viewpoint

that says otherwise

is not something
I fully understand.

I never heard anyone say

that Genesis
can be inspired,
can be from God

and not be history.

That God can give us
something that's something
other than history.

That was just not an idea
that was ever presented
to me.

CHRIS CALDWELL: I believe
the Bible is true in
what it says inGenesis.

Principally communicating
the idea that God
created this world.

And I believe this.

I believe that God has
a purpose and a will
for this creation.

That having been said,

science informs
how I understand
what that creation is.

How this planet functions.

And there have been
hundreds and thousands
of years of project,

uh, progress
in human thought
since that time

that help us to
better understand the world
that God has made.

And I welcome that aid
and understanding
of God's work.

It's like there's
a little voice in your head

that closes the door
whenever you see evidence
that doesn't fit your beliefs,

and then opens it
whenever you see evidence
that you can make fit.

And that's something
that, you know,

every Creationist have,

a little guy
in their head saying,

"Wait. No, stop.
Don't look at that."

And, "Wait,
we can accept this."

I was also debating anyone
who would pay attention to me

whenever I got the chance.

You know, online I would
find some poor scientist

and be like,
"All right, let me tell you."

And so, I would debate
everybody I could,

and they would come back
with really clear, obvious
answers to what I was saying.

And I was saying, "Hold on.
Let me go consult my
Answers in Genesis Material.

"Oh, there's the answer."
And then I would come back
with that.

Um, you know,
'cause they have answers.

They have a lot of answers.
That's what they're called,
Answers in Genesis.

BRYAN OSBORNE: We have
all these different DVDs.

And if you stop to read
all the different titles,

I mean, it's on so many
different subjects.

Anywhere from
biblical authority,

to how is Genesis relevant
in our culture today,

to what about geology,

and what about the ape man,

how do you
explain dinosaurs?

So forth and so on.

So it's literally
just the whole gamut

related to science fields
and biblical authority issues.

A lot of people
love dinosaurs,

and kids love dinosaurs.

This is one of
our most popular books.

Dinosaurs of Eden

from Ken Ham.

And so, it looks like this.

Walkthrough
with really good artwork.

And this has got some
up to date scientific
information in it

to help the kids understand
all about dinosaurs and things.

Yeah, there are surely tens of thousands of families around the country

using our different resources.

Knowing that it's going out
and influencing people is...

It brings me great joy.

KEVIN ANDERSON: This event
is called the International
Conference of Creationism.

We believe the authority
of the Bible.

We believe that
the biblical account
in Genesis

is historically
and scientifically accurate.

We present various papers.

It's only creation
that's presented.

It's only creation
that is promoted,

as opposed to other
scientific organizations

would really promote
only evolution.

Well, this is the Creationist
version of that.

The rise had to take
over a period of time.

DAN PHELPS: The audience
is being snowed.

I mean, it looks like science, and unfortunately it isn't.

It's a parody almost
of science.

Answers in Genesis puts these things on their website

they claim
are scientific papers.

They can range from
very densely written things

to things that
invoke miracles,

and all sorts of other stuff.

And they are people
with degrees.

But a degree basically
means that you're
capable of doing science.

It doesn't mean
that you're a scientist.

You basically have to agree
that the Earth's
6,000 years old,

that Noah's flood
was a real event.

All these different things
before you can
even publish a thing

in their supposedly
scientific journal.

So your conclusions
are foreordained.

Pretty much kills
the scientific method
before it even starts.

[SOMBER MUSIC PLAYING]

If we can start handing
pamphlets out by hand.

[MUSIC CONTINUES]

[MUSIC CONTINUES]

[SPEAKING]

Awesome.

That would be perfect.

[LAUGHS]

[MUSIC CONTINUES]

DAVID MACMILLAN:
You know, driving by this
when I was growing up,

it was always, "Okay,
all those layers
came from Noah's flood.

"All those layers
are about the same age."

But actually getting out
and taking a closer look,

it's not quite so
easy to think that.

You see stuff
that's really fine grained.

DAVID MACMILLAN: Oh, wow.

See the laminations there?

Yeah, you can
barely even see that.

It's like it's painted on.

So it means they were probably
deposited really slowly.

There might have been
a another storm

-and layer after layer just...
-Gotcha.

It's so inconsistent
with anything the Creationists
are claiming

-about the nature
of the rock.
-Yeah.

So this piece is actually...

DAVID MACMILLAN: I know
that there were definitely

a lot of concerns about me when I first started writing this stuff.

It surprised a lot of people, alarmed a lot of people.

DAN PHELPS: Well,
he probably...
A lot of his family

was invested in supporting
the Creation Museum.

And sometimes a turn against
what your family believes

can be heart-rending.

It's... I'm running
the risk of really,

you know, really
upsetting people
I care about.

I kind of feel like,
"Oh, if I can just explain

"why and how
and all this stuff."

But explaining
doesn't always work.

DAN PHELPS: It takes guts
to go after something
you've been raised with.

It's... It's been difficult.

A lot of people have asked,
you know, when I've been
talking about this,

was there a time
that I kind of

switched from I was
believing one thing
and the then I wasn't.

It was definitely a lot
of successive steps.

It's a lot of small,
you know, gradual things.

Learning, "Oh,
I was wrong about this.

"That's not quite
how it works."

And there was one day
that I was at work,

and on my lunchbreak, reading about astronomy stuff,

and galaxies, and reading
about discoveries.

I saw an image
of a galaxy

that was running
into the center of
a galaxy cluster.

There was a trail of hot gas

coming out from behind
this galaxy.

Two-three hundred thousand
light years.

Basically footprints
in the sky,

with paths that go
way, way, way farther

than anything could move
in 6,000 years.

And just seeing that

and saying, "Wait,
if something can traverse

"you know, 200,000
light years of space,

"that they can't be
6,000 years old.

"It just can't work."

I realized at that point
that yeah,

I don't believe this anymore.

I can't believe this anymore.

And so, I was able
to look at the universe
and hear what it was saying.

This is a new world.

It's a different...
It's a different world
than I thought it was.

[SUBLIME MUSIC PLAYING]

Make sure that
I have this up here.

All right.

[INDISTINCT CONVERSATIONS]

JEN SCOTT: You know,
we saw busloads of kids
going in there.

And knowing that
children are being lied to

and science is
being misrepresented

is just...
It's a horrible feeling
to see that.

-Morning.
-Morning.

I just wanted to touch base
before it gets a little...

-Yeah, before it hits the fan.
-...a little busy. Yeah.

What's this I'm hearing
about anti-protester?

Yes. Eric Hovind,
I believe is his name.

He's coming up
from Florida. He's...

Ken Ham, I guess,
texted him and said,

"They're protesting.
You should come up here
and counter-protest."

JIM HELTON:
So we just want
to make you aware.

If there's an issue,
we'll just let you know.

-Cool.
-Okay.

-So about 150 people?
-Yeah.

All right. Just try
to keep everybody safe, okay?

-We will.
-Yeah. Absolutely.

As long as
nothing's confrontational,
we're good.

As long as you guys
are, you know,
doing your thing.

-Have a good one, guys.
-All right. Thank you.

[SPEAKING]

So he made each kind.

And each kind of land animal

was represented on Noah's ark.

So what we today
call dinosaurs

were represented on the ark.

See, people haven't been
given these answers.

They haven't been
taught genetics correctly.

They haven't been taught
about speciation and
natural selection correctly.

We're gonna correct that
in here,

and undo the brainwashing
that's occurred through this.

[CROWD CHEERS, CLAPS]

And I encourage you,
when you come to
Answers in Genesis,

talk to our PhD scientists.

You won't understand
what they're saying,
but talk to them.

[LAUGHTER]

What's really going on here.

So, we're excited about
what God is doing

and how the truth
will be presented today.

It's gonna be fantastic.

[SPEAKING]

Okay.

[SPEAKING]

HOVIND: This is
gonna be fantastic.

We are gonna correct you guys
on some of the misstatements
that you guys are making.

I'll give you time to
get set up and everything.

As long as we're all
in agreement,
we'll be fine.

Long as you guys
agree with me,
we'll be good.

We are actually here all about science and reason.

The ark was built
with science and reason.

Look at
what a magnificent
structure it is.

Disneyland quality,

some of the very best stuff
that's ever been built.

I think the atheists
should be proud

and say, "Christians,
I can't believe you've used
science and reason so well."

Let's not engage them,
let's not talk to them,

let's have zero conversation
with them.

What I want you to do
is stand in front of the sign
and back of the sign

for every sign they have.

I would prefer
if they go over there,

so we're less likely
to have confrontations.

[SPEAKING]

Yes.

Thank you.

[SPEAKING]

No, I...
I made all these
signs myself.

I haven't asked people
to come at all.

I'm telling you.
I have not asked anybody
to show up here at all.

[BLOWING TRUMPETS]

[CROWD CLAPPING]

HAM: Thank you.

Gonna be a little different
than what you might be,

say in church,
or in some special meeting.

Normally I know you're
told to turn your cell phones,

your smartphones off,

put them in your pocket,

turn them on to vibrate.

I want you to
make sure they're on.

We want you to tweet.
We want you to blog.

We want you to post.

Because we want
seven billion people
to come here.

[APPLAUDING]

Forty-three thousand
families or individuals

that gave 123,000 gifts.

That's you.

Thank you for being
a part of this ministry.

[INDISTINCT CHATTER]

This park tells people
that evolution is not true,

science isn't true,
this Earth is only
6,000 years old.

This is ridiculous.

But keep in mind,
we didn't build a park based
on genocide and incest.

We're just advertising
for them,

and calling it what it is.

And now we've
changed the conversation.

Anybody wanna
engage in good dialog?

Actually we do know
that it never happened.

No, we know that
it actually did happen.

[CROWD CHANTING INDISTINCTLY]

[SPEAKING]

CROWD:
♪ Tax break there

♪ Here a break, there a break Everywhere a tax break

♪ The Ark Encounter
is a shit

♪ E-I-E-I-O

[SPEAKING]

[INDISTINCT CONVERSATION]

CROWD:
♪ Hey, hey, hey
Goodbye

♪ Na, na, na, na
Na, na, na, na

♪ Hey, hey, hey
Goodbye ♪

[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]

Um, on behalf of
the city of Williamstown,

and the State of Kentucky,

I would like to officially
declare the Ark Encounter
open.

[PEOPLE CHEERING]

[TRIUMPHANT MUSIC PLAYING]

[MAN SPEAKING INDISTINCTLY]

The entrance to the ark
is on the right hand side.

[CONTINUES INDISTINCTLY]

The visual impact of
a structure like this
is just crazy.

It's astounding.
I'm really, really excited.
I...

I don't want to be,
but I am.

It's just insane
how big this thing is.

It's... It's...

Really, really, really big.

It really isn't
what I expected at all
for this initial entrance area.

[THUNDER RUMBLES]

Yes, there's a part of me
that's just super thrilled
that it's here.

Just because it's
really cool to see.

Even if it can be
a little bit frustrating
to think about.

It's just massive.
There's no denying that.

You know, this might be
some people's definition
of Hell. [LAUGHS]

I've never smoked marijuana,

but if somebody offered me
a bit of acid right now,
I think I'd take it.

Ooh!

The baby dinosaur.

Who knew that Adam and Eve
sacrificed dinosaurs.
Look at that.

[CHILD SPEAKING]

[WOMAN SPEAKING]

DAVID MACMILLAN:
Science denial is huge.

Creationism is one
of the most far reaching
examples of science denial.

Creationists have
been pretty vocal.

And they're gonna continue
to have dinosaurs.

They're going to
have flashy exhibits.

They're gonna build
new museums.

And they're really going
to try hard to leverage
everything they can.

One, two, three.

[ALL SPEAKING]

Rad!

One more time.
With your hands up.

Especially you.
You need to be more excited.
I know you can.

All right. Ready?

One, two, three!

ALL: We love the Ark Encounter!

It took us several decades
to build the ark.

Why don't I look 600?

What do you mean?

I look about the same age
as any other 600-year-old
person I've met.

[CHUCKLES] Well,

except for my wife,

of course.

She doesn't look
a day past 400.

Weird in saber-jawed
carnivoran,

but it's not related
to cats apparently,

even though it looks like them.

Are they like pre-turtles?

Are they like turtle super...
We can't... We don't know.

I think these are
the T-Rex kind.

It's a little racy in here.

[SOMBER MUSIC PLAYING]

[WOMAN SPEAKING]

-WOMAN: Did they
have underwear?
-Yeah.

DAN PHELPS: Of course,
us Kentuckians like to say,

if you can't
say anything nice,
don't say anything.

I can say positively
that the building was nice.

It was
beautifully constructed,

and amazing amount
of work.

As far as the content,
however,

of course, I have
a much more negative view.

I'd really even hate to say bad science or pseudo-science.

The anti-science
and non-science
that's depicting

the age of the Earth
and Universe.

Claiming that all the world's sedimentary geology

is the result of Noah's flood.

The pieces of evidence that they try to use for that

are really, really bad.

They've been
debunked for years.

It's bullshit.

I mean, there is not
a fair word, scientific word
to describe it.

Of course, this will
follow Kentuckians
wherever they go.

Kentucky always
has had the backward image

as being non-scientific,
or anti-scientific.

And now,
people besides saying,

"Oh, you're from that place
where that crazy
Creations Museum is.

"Oh, you're from the place
where the Ark is."

[MELANCHOLY MUSIC PLAYING]

[TRAIN CHUGGING]

MAN: What's it meant
for Downtown Williamstown?

Nothing. I was one
of the believers that
when the ark came,

just everything's gonna
come in.

It's not done it, Joe.
It's not done it.

I think the ark's done well.
[LAUGHS]

And I'm glad for them
on that.

But it's not done us
good at all.

And I was
very direct with them.
You know, uh,

if somebody asked me

if we were getting
any taxes from it,

I can't lie
about it, you know.

[SPEAKING]

It wasn't the friendliest
letter in the world.

He just was
a little upset with me.

And I agree with him.
I should promote it.

But you know, I just...
And I do!

But he didn't like
what I said about
a couple of things, you know.

I hated that he was angry.

Well, he was real angry.

But he was pretty...
straightforward.

Well, let me
tell you something.

Nobody and their ark's
coming into town.

Maybe eight cars a day.

And then they drive two days.

There's nothing here.

I hate it, too.
But this used to be
a wonderful little town.

My hope is that
it is successful, really.

We're hoping some restaurants are coming here.

But I haven't heard anybody

or anything
coming in right now,

to Williamstown.

I was in as much
shock as you.

I didn't know it
was going to close,

even though I knew
they weren't doing well.

And I know he thought
this could be the new
Gatlinburg.

It's a shame.

JAMIE BAKER: " Well,
of course it's in Kentucky.

"'Cause they're a bunch
of religious zealots."

Or, "They're part
of the Bible Belt."

You know,
those kind of comments.

I think those were
generalizations that,

that are very unfair.

I've had people say,
"Do you believe the theory
about the dinosaurs?

"Do you believe, you know,
how old the Earth is?"

And I said,
"I'm not gonna address
any of that."

Religion is
a personal choice.

It is the way
you view the world.

I don't know how to explain
faith to somebody.

Um, it is the thing
that is hoped for
and unseen.

But again,
when you're talking
about the ark itself,

as a community,
we have to put that aside.

And it comes down to
we are home to the ark,

it is a business,
it is an attraction,

and it is bringing
people here.

So we have to
capitalize on that

if we wanna move forward
and grow, and be successful.

And I am very optimistic
that we can do those things.

Time is what
it's gonna take.

DAVID MACMILLAN:
I've lost the sense
that I have to be right.

I've lost the obligation
to always be correct,

and always be
this authority.

I've lost that
sense of obligation

and that hunger that
I have to know everything

or otherwise everything's
gonna crumble.

I would definitely
be interested
in writing about how

the current political climate has changed the way we look at Creationism.

These things are
being turned into policy

and we're seeing
that impact,

and I'm really worried
about what that impact's
going to be.

[MAN SPEAKING]

No.

I don't. I can't say
I miss Kentucky much.

DOUG HENDERSON: [CHUCKLES]
The ark has been
good for business.

That is an understatement.

The attendance here
is doubled. Yeah.

We're actually
doubling our leach beds

and our sewage
and all that stuff
on property

because of it.
We have no choice.

Since this is so much
of the biblical history,

there's only
a little bit of evidence.

There's only a little bit
of fossil stuff.

There's only a little bit
of that kind of stuff.

So what we wanna do
is put another
museum over there

that really
focuses on evidence.

We own 50 acres here,
so we got room to grow.

MAN: Our next speaker
is Daniel Phelps,

who is a Lexington native.

He is the winner
of the prestigious

National Center for Science
Education's Friend of Darwin
award.

[CROWD CHEERS]

DAN PHELPS: Of course, I'll remain Ken Ham's nemesis

as long as
he's here in Kentucky.

...reality based
on the light of evidence.

-Thank you very much.
-[CROWD CHEERS]

And he better behave himself.

Ham is more complex
than people realize.

I think that he has
a business

ability about him.

That he's a good
propagandist.

He is a wonderful
propagandist.

He holds
the whole thing together.

Within a few years
he had the Creation Museum,

and eventually
he had the Ark made.

[INAUDIBLE DIALOG]

Like I've said before.
I sort of feel like
I failed basically

fighting this.

My goal was to make sure

that they didn't get
the tax incentive money.

Which is 18 and
a quarter million
over a ten year period.

So, I feel I lost
major on that.

It was just something
that I put a lot of time in,

and it just didn't
work out.

You can't have
everything work out.

I remember
when I was a little kid,

my dad took me downtown

without my mother knowing
we watched the movie Patton.

And I'll never forget the opening scenes where Pat was talking to the troops

saying, "Someday you're gonna have your grandkids ask you what did you do in the war?

And are you gonna tell them
that you shoveled shit
in New Orleans,

"or you actually went out
and fought?"

You can say, "Well,
I posted stuff to Facebook."

Or you can say, "I actually went out and we tried to do something."

And I think at least...
At least I tried.

Of course this problem
isn't going to go away
in our lifetime,

or maybe even our children
or grandchildren's lifetimes.

The Creationist movement
will be with us for
a very long time.

Here's another exciting
part of the project.

We building Noah's Ark,

that's only phase one.

We have other
phases planned as well.

We master planned
an entire park
to go with Noah's Ark.

We have, for instance,

a petting zoo,
a stage for live
animal programs,

the children's area.

a Tower of Babel with
a 5-D theater, ride through
the plagues of Egypt.

A first century village.

Drama theaters.

[VOICE FADES AWAY]

[THUNDER CRASHING]

[MELANCHOLY MUSIC PLAYING]

MODERATOR: Senator McCain,
this comes from
a politico.com reader

and was among the top
vote getters
in our early rounds.

I want a yes or no.

Do you believe
in evolution?

Yes.

I'm curious. Is there
anybody on the stage that
does not agree on that,

believe in evolution?

I've come to understand
that all that stuff I was
taught about evolution

and embryology
and the Big Bang Theory,

all that is lies straight
from the pit of Hell.

I don't believe that
the earth's but
about 9,000 years old.

I personally believe
that this theory

that Darwin came up with

was something that

was encouraged by
the adversary.

[SPEAKING]

All right. We're gonna
go through some
interesting news items

of the past few days.

The first one involves
a group called 137 Films

that asked for access
to our designers

and others associated
with building the ark.

And they wanted
to come and film for
a documentary.

So, 137 films
from their website

says, "Creationists have
built a $100 million,
510 foot Noah's Ark

"with the express purpose
of debunking evolution."

Wrong.

It's science vs. religion.

And over and over again.

-What do they mean
by science?
-Yeah.

Over and over again
we say it's not science.

-This is religion.
-That's right.

It's religion vs. religion.

Exactly. The thing is
they don't want to admit

that evolution
really is a religion.

I mean, molecules
demand evolution.

It's a belief.

Again, it's an attempt
at brainwashing
and indoctrinating the public

that, "I don't believe
these Creationists,

"because they're not
real scientists

"and that's religion.

"Real science believes,
millions of years believes,

"man evolved from
ape-like creatures."

Well, they say
we're gonna have rides
at the Ark Encounter,

like a Tower of Babel ride.
Things like that.

I mean, is that kind of stuff
really gonna happen?

Well, it'll be
a different sort of ride.

-It's not a ride
for an amusement park.
-That's right.

It'll be just like
a people carrier.

To carry people through
maybe the history.

Anyway, this 137 Films
is trying to raise money
for their documentary.

They wanna get it shown
in picture theaters,

so they can try
to indoctrinate
and inoculate the public

against the Bible.

That's the way it goes.

Hey, here's a piece
from Publishers Weekly...