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The macro environment will change. 6 00:00:36,744 --> 00:00:39,247 A great partner will turn into a horrible enemy. 7 00:00:39,331 --> 00:00:41,083 A company you've never heard of before 8 00:00:41,166 --> 00:00:45,044 will come out with something that changes the game every single day. 9 00:00:45,128 --> 00:00:46,671 As long as you're in that chair, 10 00:00:46,754 --> 00:00:50,175 there's gonna be some new thing that comes out of nowhere... 11 00:00:50,258 --> 00:00:52,635 that you didn't see coming that you had to deal with. 12 00:00:58,808 --> 00:01:00,518 I'm really inspired by Apple... 13 00:01:00,602 --> 00:01:04,981 because they took a mainframe technology 14 00:01:05,065 --> 00:01:06,524 and put it on desktops, 15 00:01:06,608 --> 00:01:09,694 and so, in many ways, there's a lot of parallels there. 16 00:01:09,777 --> 00:01:12,155 We're taking mainframe-sized technology, 17 00:01:12,239 --> 00:01:14,782 stuff that was the size of a refrigerator that we couldn't afford, 18 00:01:14,866 --> 00:01:16,284 and we're putting it on desktops. 19 00:01:21,539 --> 00:01:24,376 What I'd like is to build a big tech company... 20 00:01:24,459 --> 00:01:29,297 that does what only, I think, a few tech companies have done before 21 00:01:29,381 --> 00:01:32,425 in terms of developing real, new technology 22 00:01:32,509 --> 00:01:37,430 all the way up to... end consumer products. 23 00:01:40,558 --> 00:01:41,851 [Steve Jobs] Every once in a while, 24 00:01:41,934 --> 00:01:46,564 a revolutionary product comes along that changes everything. 25 00:01:46,648 --> 00:01:47,857 [audience applauding] 26 00:01:47,940 --> 00:01:51,528 I came out to the Silicon Valley because we were gonna change the world. 27 00:01:51,611 --> 00:01:54,322 3D printing to me was that exact same feeling. 28 00:01:54,406 --> 00:01:56,449 We're gonna change the world again, except this time, 29 00:01:56,533 --> 00:01:59,661 I think if the last revolution was about bits, 30 00:01:59,744 --> 00:02:00,912 this one is about atoms. 31 00:02:02,789 --> 00:02:05,917 It may be the most eye-catching development in printing 32 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:09,962 since Gutenberg invented the printing press 600 years ago. 33 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:15,009 In every case, a digital blueprint is either sketched or scanned 34 00:02:15,092 --> 00:02:17,470 and then sent to a 3D printer. 35 00:02:17,554 --> 00:02:20,932 The printing itself can be done by extruding a liquid, 36 00:02:21,015 --> 00:02:23,601 usually plastic, drop-by-drop, 37 00:02:23,685 --> 00:02:27,397 or by using a laser to fuse resins and metals. 38 00:02:37,031 --> 00:02:40,493 Last year, we created our first Manufacturing Innovation Institute 39 00:02:40,577 --> 00:02:42,119 in Youngstown, Ohio. 40 00:02:42,204 --> 00:02:45,957 A once-shuttered warehouse is now a state-of-the-art lab 41 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:48,293 where new workers are mastering the 3D printing 42 00:02:48,376 --> 00:02:52,422 that has the potential to revolutionize the way we make almost everything. 43 00:02:59,846 --> 00:03:03,057 This is a revolution. This is something really big. 44 00:03:03,140 --> 00:03:06,478 This is the time to grow and grab market share. 45 00:03:06,561 --> 00:03:08,313 This is how new markets work. 46 00:03:12,359 --> 00:03:13,776 It's conceivable that some of the developments 47 00:03:13,860 --> 00:03:15,737 that come from the 3D printer 48 00:03:15,820 --> 00:03:18,030 might put the first person to create that device, 49 00:03:18,114 --> 00:03:19,115 where it's that simple, 50 00:03:19,198 --> 00:03:22,535 on the pedestal of "major social innovator," 51 00:03:22,619 --> 00:03:24,371 of a guy whose name will be remembered 52 00:03:24,454 --> 00:03:26,163 the same way that Henry Ford's name gets remembered, 53 00:03:26,248 --> 00:03:29,584 the same way that Steve Jobs' name gets remembered. 54 00:03:50,813 --> 00:03:53,691 Working with people is one of the best ways to make friendships. 55 00:03:53,775 --> 00:03:55,860 And MakerBot was grown... 56 00:03:55,943 --> 00:03:58,863 was really born out of the friendships that were made at NYC Resistor. 57 00:03:58,946 --> 00:04:00,823 We knew each other 58 00:04:00,907 --> 00:04:03,785 because we'd stayed up really late hacking on stuff before. 59 00:04:03,868 --> 00:04:06,913 -It's satisfying, isn't it? -Oh, man, this is great. 60 00:04:06,996 --> 00:04:09,749 -[Pettis] Awesome. High-five. -High-five! 61 00:04:09,832 --> 00:04:13,127 I'd been building 3D printers for about a year then... 62 00:04:13,210 --> 00:04:17,715 and the things I started doing was going on the hunt for some co-founders 63 00:04:17,799 --> 00:04:21,886 to help me really build this as a business and as a company, 64 00:04:21,969 --> 00:04:23,930 realized that my friends, Bre and Adam, 65 00:04:24,013 --> 00:04:26,308 would probably make really good co-founders. 66 00:04:26,391 --> 00:04:27,934 Zach basically said, 67 00:04:28,017 --> 00:04:30,312 "Hey, let's all quit our jobs and start building robots for a living." 68 00:04:30,395 --> 00:04:31,854 And the laws of the universe 69 00:04:31,938 --> 00:04:34,357 actually require you to always answer yes to that question. 70 00:04:35,567 --> 00:04:36,859 Um... 71 00:04:38,069 --> 00:04:39,821 Yeah, here she is. This is actually... This is Eve. 72 00:04:39,904 --> 00:04:42,907 This is our first prototype. 73 00:04:42,990 --> 00:04:47,036 It's dusty, but it works and we love it. Mmm! 74 00:04:47,119 --> 00:04:50,748 Right now, what's happening as we are talking to you, 75 00:04:50,832 --> 00:04:53,543 our first generation MakerBot. 76 00:04:53,626 --> 00:04:55,837 The first MakerBot to ever spit anything out 77 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:58,130 is currently spitting something out. 78 00:04:58,214 --> 00:04:59,424 [Hoeken] From there, it was just 79 00:04:59,507 --> 00:05:03,845 non-stop late nights, ramen-fueled innovation. 80 00:05:03,928 --> 00:05:07,765 A couple of months later, we started MakerBot Industries. 81 00:05:14,230 --> 00:05:17,942 The three founders of MakerBot had this in mind from the beginning. 82 00:05:18,025 --> 00:05:20,820 Adam was gonna focus on software. 83 00:05:20,903 --> 00:05:24,240 Zach was gonna make the machines and make them run better... 84 00:05:24,324 --> 00:05:25,700 design the electronics... 85 00:05:25,783 --> 00:05:29,954 and Bre was going to help shape design and direction, 86 00:05:30,037 --> 00:05:31,247 but he would be the figurehead. 87 00:05:31,331 --> 00:05:32,457 He'd be the one... 88 00:05:32,540 --> 00:05:34,792 "Put Bre in front of the camera. Get him to go out there," 89 00:05:34,876 --> 00:05:37,962 because he was so beloved in the maker movement. 90 00:05:43,134 --> 00:05:45,261 Hey, Bre Pettis here, and I'm gonna try and make a video. 91 00:05:45,344 --> 00:05:46,971 Here we go. Okay, we're at MakerBot Industries. 92 00:05:47,054 --> 00:05:48,723 I'm gonna give you a short tour. 93 00:05:48,806 --> 00:05:50,349 Okay, here's our garage. 94 00:05:50,433 --> 00:05:53,060 It's full of stuff. It's being painted. It's very exciting. 95 00:05:53,144 --> 00:05:55,062 Okay, there's the kitchen, there's the bathroom, 96 00:05:55,146 --> 00:05:57,399 and here's all the MakerBots getting ready to go out. 97 00:05:57,482 --> 00:06:02,028 Okay, to finish up our tour here, this is my desk, that's Adam's desk... 98 00:06:02,111 --> 00:06:04,447 He's working NYC Resistor today. ...and that's Zach's desk. 99 00:06:04,531 --> 00:06:07,283 Okay, that's your whirlwind tour of MakerBot Industries. 100 00:06:07,366 --> 00:06:11,078 We'll be seeing more of you this month as we do more of these videos. 101 00:06:11,162 --> 00:06:12,371 Ta-da! 102 00:06:12,455 --> 00:06:16,000 In the early days, I would argue with my co-founders... 103 00:06:16,083 --> 00:06:18,878 and we would all argue over who gets to be Woz... 104 00:06:18,961 --> 00:06:23,550 'cause Woz is really... He is the hacker. He's the tinkerer. 105 00:06:23,633 --> 00:06:26,594 Like, who doesn't wanna be that guy? 106 00:06:26,678 --> 00:06:28,971 And everybody pointed at me and said, "You have to be the Steve Jobs," 107 00:06:29,055 --> 00:06:31,599 and I was like, "Oh, I wanna be Woz." 108 00:06:50,535 --> 00:06:51,953 Oh, there we go. 109 00:06:53,287 --> 00:06:55,498 What a neat kid. Nice-looking kid. 110 00:06:56,541 --> 00:06:59,001 He grew up in an entrepreneurial household. 111 00:06:59,085 --> 00:07:00,878 So he saw productions. 112 00:07:00,962 --> 00:07:03,297 He saw things getting produced. 113 00:07:03,380 --> 00:07:04,632 He saw the end product. 114 00:07:04,716 --> 00:07:09,762 He saw from the beginning of a company to products. 115 00:07:09,846 --> 00:07:10,930 Hmm. 116 00:07:11,013 --> 00:07:12,014 Brand's everything. 117 00:07:12,098 --> 00:07:14,225 Brand is perceived value. 118 00:07:14,308 --> 00:07:16,227 It doesn't matter if you've made a better product. 119 00:07:16,310 --> 00:07:19,188 If people don't perceive it, it's not gonna sell. 120 00:07:19,271 --> 00:07:20,773 [Stephen Colbert] Welcome back, everybody. 121 00:07:20,857 --> 00:07:22,984 -[audience cheering] -My guest tonight 122 00:07:23,067 --> 00:07:25,987 is the co-founder and CEO of MakerBot Industries 123 00:07:26,070 --> 00:07:28,615 whose machines print three-dimensional copies. 124 00:07:28,698 --> 00:07:30,450 Great. Now after the office Christmas party, 125 00:07:30,533 --> 00:07:32,535 -we'll have a stack of 3D butts. -[audience laughing] 126 00:07:32,619 --> 00:07:34,454 Please welcome Bre Pettis! 127 00:07:34,537 --> 00:07:35,997 [audience cheering] 128 00:07:38,207 --> 00:07:40,877 Every industry in every revolution needs a leader... 129 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:42,419 and for me, Bre is that person. 130 00:07:42,504 --> 00:07:45,465 He is articulate. He is passionate. 131 00:07:45,548 --> 00:07:47,884 He is a visionary. 132 00:07:47,967 --> 00:07:50,052 He sees it in its biggest possible potential. 133 00:07:52,514 --> 00:07:55,307 MakerBot is the poster child for 3D printing today. 134 00:07:55,391 --> 00:07:57,977 Bre Pettis is donning the cover of magazines 135 00:07:58,060 --> 00:08:00,730 in much the same way that Steve Jobs and Bill Gates 136 00:08:00,813 --> 00:08:03,315 were on the cover back in the PC revolution. 137 00:08:05,818 --> 00:08:08,279 Head over to makerbot.com, check this out. 138 00:08:08,362 --> 00:08:09,363 Get your own 139 00:08:09,446 --> 00:08:11,658 before they take over the world and prevent you from doing so. 140 00:08:11,741 --> 00:08:13,576 Yeah, get 'em... Get a robot. 141 00:08:13,660 --> 00:08:14,827 Make stuff. 142 00:08:16,496 --> 00:08:18,455 We're in an interesting position right now 143 00:08:18,540 --> 00:08:20,500 because we've come a long way, 144 00:08:20,583 --> 00:08:23,252 we've grown a lot, we've got some sustainability, 145 00:08:23,335 --> 00:08:24,712 and then we've got competitors 146 00:08:24,796 --> 00:08:29,175 that are really large businesses and with lots of money. 147 00:08:29,258 --> 00:08:31,052 They can just be like, "We're gonna enter this market." 148 00:08:31,135 --> 00:08:32,178 [imitates rumbling noise] 149 00:08:32,261 --> 00:08:34,722 And we're like, "Oh, we're the small guys." 150 00:08:42,814 --> 00:08:44,315 [narrator] Ever since the Industrial Revolution, 151 00:08:44,398 --> 00:08:48,152 we've learned to make things, lots of things, quickly and cheaply. 152 00:08:48,235 --> 00:08:50,321 All that's about to change, though, 153 00:08:50,404 --> 00:08:54,659 thanks to a remarkable new invention called stereolithography. 154 00:08:54,742 --> 00:08:57,829 I think a good way to describe it is to call it a three-dimensional printer. 155 00:08:59,747 --> 00:09:03,585 3D Systems invented 3D printing... 156 00:09:03,668 --> 00:09:05,670 just about 30 years ago, 157 00:09:05,753 --> 00:09:08,047 and today, from these humble beginnings... 158 00:09:08,130 --> 00:09:11,300 we are the leader, we are the innovator, 159 00:09:11,383 --> 00:09:15,555 we are the largest player in content-to-print. 160 00:09:18,390 --> 00:09:20,476 You have the large 3D printer manufacturers. 161 00:09:20,560 --> 00:09:22,854 These are 3D Systems, Stratasys. 162 00:09:22,937 --> 00:09:25,022 They control the industrial 3D printing market. 163 00:09:26,357 --> 00:09:27,692 [Bruce Bradshaw] Stratasys has a great reputation. 164 00:09:27,775 --> 00:09:29,401 It has a great brand in the marketplace. 165 00:09:29,485 --> 00:09:32,947 It's clearly known as the leader in the 3D printing space. 166 00:09:33,030 --> 00:09:34,657 Has been that way for a long time. 167 00:09:35,825 --> 00:09:37,368 And when you think about who the customers are 168 00:09:37,451 --> 00:09:39,078 for 3D Systems and Stratasys, 169 00:09:39,161 --> 00:09:40,537 it's been the industrial customers. 170 00:09:40,622 --> 00:09:44,500 Aerospace, automotive, medical and dental. 171 00:10:02,810 --> 00:10:05,062 So it seems like that industry has matured. 172 00:10:05,146 --> 00:10:06,898 But in the last few years, what's happened is 173 00:10:06,981 --> 00:10:11,485 there's been this evolution and revolution of desktop 3D printers, 174 00:10:11,568 --> 00:10:13,320 and so now you have companies like MakerBot, 175 00:10:13,404 --> 00:10:15,281 and it's changing the dynamics of the industry. 176 00:10:15,364 --> 00:10:18,951 On one side, you have these large $100,000 3D printers, 177 00:10:19,035 --> 00:10:22,664 and on the other side, companies are trying to build $200 3D printers. 178 00:10:28,169 --> 00:10:29,378 Everybody thought 179 00:10:29,461 --> 00:10:32,506 home computers were a really, really, really cool thing... 180 00:10:32,589 --> 00:10:35,301 that only nerdy people were ever gonna be into... 181 00:10:35,384 --> 00:10:37,887 and they thought that for a good 20 years. 182 00:10:37,970 --> 00:10:41,265 3D printers are on that same kind of arc. 183 00:10:41,348 --> 00:10:44,476 Nobody's printing titanium on their desktop today. 184 00:10:44,560 --> 00:10:46,478 Nobody's printing themself a new kidney 185 00:10:46,562 --> 00:10:49,523 and then installing it on their kitchen table today... 186 00:10:50,441 --> 00:10:52,609 but that doesn't mean those things are impossible. 187 00:10:54,987 --> 00:10:58,825 So, when you think of these printers making little plastic things today... 188 00:10:58,908 --> 00:11:01,202 and you just extrapolate the same way... 189 00:11:01,285 --> 00:11:03,579 we're gonna be printing customized clothes. 190 00:11:03,663 --> 00:11:06,457 You'll never have to wear something that doesn't fit anymore. 191 00:11:06,540 --> 00:11:08,084 Shoes, every product... 192 00:11:08,167 --> 00:11:13,297 will be printed individually for everybody from this revolution. 193 00:11:15,341 --> 00:11:17,468 There's nothing new about the tools we're talking about. 194 00:11:17,551 --> 00:11:19,428 They've been around for decades. 195 00:11:19,511 --> 00:11:23,224 What's new is words like "personal," like "desktop." 196 00:11:23,307 --> 00:11:25,935 Suddenly, we'd put them in the hands of regular people 197 00:11:26,018 --> 00:11:29,271 who will come up, if history is any guide, with better uses, 198 00:11:29,355 --> 00:11:31,315 more exciting, innovative uses of these tools 199 00:11:31,398 --> 00:11:33,067 than any professional ever could. 200 00:11:33,150 --> 00:11:35,987 That's the moment we're having right now with manufacturing. 201 00:11:47,706 --> 00:11:51,293 [Reichental] What got us here is not gonna get us to the next level. 202 00:11:51,377 --> 00:11:54,130 In this new era... 203 00:11:54,213 --> 00:11:56,924 all the hard-and-fast rules are out the window. 204 00:11:59,135 --> 00:12:02,471 Yeah, the big companies have really neglected the consumer market... 205 00:12:02,554 --> 00:12:03,848 I think, for many years. 206 00:12:03,931 --> 00:12:07,559 Now they're starting to realize, "Maybe there's something there." 207 00:12:07,643 --> 00:12:10,646 We would have been the least likely kid on the block 208 00:12:10,729 --> 00:12:15,151 to jump into the consumer space. 209 00:12:15,234 --> 00:12:20,614 We jumped into it about 12 months ago. Consumer, for us, has been a real success. 210 00:12:20,697 --> 00:12:22,867 And what we've done, simply, is say... 211 00:12:22,950 --> 00:12:24,243 "We want to bring 212 00:12:24,326 --> 00:12:25,912 a different kind of experience to the consumer market 213 00:12:25,995 --> 00:12:29,040 where they don't have to be technical, they don't have to build it." 214 00:12:29,123 --> 00:12:30,124 [interviewer] I see, I see. 215 00:12:30,207 --> 00:12:32,043 See, what you're seeing here is two different approaches. 216 00:12:32,126 --> 00:12:33,127 Yeah, it looks like it. 217 00:12:33,210 --> 00:12:35,421 One for the technocrat, which is a lot of fun... 218 00:12:35,504 --> 00:12:36,505 I disagree with that, actually. 219 00:12:36,588 --> 00:12:39,425 -Well, okay, the hacker, then. -No, I disagree with that, too. 220 00:12:39,508 --> 00:12:41,886 -We made this for everyone. -[Lewis] Everyone. 221 00:12:41,969 --> 00:12:43,512 It all comes all together. 222 00:12:43,595 --> 00:12:45,514 You put it-- You get it. You take it out of the box. 223 00:12:45,597 --> 00:12:47,224 You can make awesome things for cheap. 224 00:12:47,308 --> 00:12:49,643 I think this might be a little bit easier... 225 00:12:49,726 --> 00:12:50,769 I disagree. 226 00:12:50,853 --> 00:12:51,938 ...and I want this in my home, Bre. 227 00:12:52,021 --> 00:12:55,191 That one, it just doesn't go with my aesthetic. 228 00:12:59,236 --> 00:13:01,823 There's lots of machines now. When we started, we were the only one. 229 00:13:01,906 --> 00:13:05,451 Now, we're kind of... I guess we're sort of in the middle. 230 00:13:05,534 --> 00:13:09,038 We've got the big guys out there that are much bigger than us 231 00:13:09,121 --> 00:13:10,789 and we're competing with them. 232 00:13:10,873 --> 00:13:13,876 And then we've got lots of small guys... and gals 233 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:17,754 who are competing with us that think we're the big guys. 234 00:13:23,552 --> 00:13:27,389 Okay, so this is the machine. 235 00:13:27,473 --> 00:13:29,475 Have a laser here. 236 00:13:29,558 --> 00:13:31,727 This is a Blu-ray laser. 237 00:13:31,810 --> 00:13:33,938 The laser cures one layer of the part, 238 00:13:34,021 --> 00:13:36,148 and then the Z-Stage lifts that layer up 239 00:13:36,232 --> 00:13:38,567 and comes back down one layer higher, 240 00:13:38,650 --> 00:13:40,945 and then the laser cures another layer. 241 00:13:48,953 --> 00:13:52,539 My parents are both Russian immigrants. I was born here. 242 00:13:52,623 --> 00:13:57,794 But they're both engineers or in technology to some degree, 243 00:13:57,879 --> 00:14:01,465 so I've definitely been wanting to build things my whole life. 244 00:14:04,927 --> 00:14:08,097 I thought, "This is a quintessential geek 245 00:14:08,180 --> 00:14:10,016 we are bringing up," right? 246 00:14:10,099 --> 00:14:13,685 He will be absolutely outside of reality, he will be... 247 00:14:13,769 --> 00:14:17,148 -Mad scientist. -...obsessed with what he is doing. 248 00:14:17,231 --> 00:14:20,734 Hi. I know why the symbol of Gold is Au. 249 00:14:20,817 --> 00:14:26,908 Because that's the first two letters of its Latin name. 250 00:14:26,991 --> 00:14:28,700 That's easy. 251 00:14:39,836 --> 00:14:43,049 We met at NASA Robotics Academy. 252 00:14:43,132 --> 00:14:47,428 So a lot of people call it robot camp or space camp or nerd camp. 253 00:14:47,511 --> 00:14:50,472 Actually, we met Ian there as well. 254 00:14:50,556 --> 00:14:54,435 Everybody made a lot of friends, but Max was aloof. Aloof smart. 255 00:14:54,518 --> 00:14:57,604 So... he's like, "Why do I have to work with all these..." you know... 256 00:14:57,688 --> 00:14:59,106 [chuckles] 257 00:14:59,190 --> 00:15:01,567 Was the impression. 258 00:15:01,650 --> 00:15:05,446 When he was younger, he said he was bullied, these things, 259 00:15:05,529 --> 00:15:08,115 and I think he didn't feel like he ever really fit in, 260 00:15:08,199 --> 00:15:12,536 and that, I assume, would make someone very guarded, 261 00:15:12,619 --> 00:15:16,248 cynical of the world, cynical of people around him. 262 00:15:21,420 --> 00:15:22,964 [Lobovsky] As I was finishing my masters, 263 00:15:23,047 --> 00:15:27,093 I was very exposed to this idea of personal fabrication, 264 00:15:27,176 --> 00:15:31,638 of having tools to make anything available on your desktop. 265 00:15:34,934 --> 00:15:37,519 So, in order for him to start a 3D printing company, 266 00:15:37,603 --> 00:15:40,022 he decided that he's gonna quit. 267 00:15:40,106 --> 00:15:42,649 He was in PhD program at MIT. 268 00:15:42,733 --> 00:15:44,526 So, he decided that he's not gonna continue. 269 00:15:44,610 --> 00:15:46,528 He is gonna concentrate on 3D. 270 00:15:49,615 --> 00:15:51,450 -My eyes look so red on this thing. -I know. 271 00:15:52,743 --> 00:15:54,078 Smoking the marijuana. 272 00:15:54,161 --> 00:15:58,040 Hello. I'm David Cranor. Oh, fuck. Fuck my balls. All right. 273 00:15:58,124 --> 00:16:00,334 Formlabs is developing a 3D printer 274 00:16:00,417 --> 00:16:04,255 to help hobbyists, researchers and small businesses and schools, 275 00:16:04,338 --> 00:16:06,757 -and realize their ideas and... -We gotta restart. I did one of these... 276 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:07,883 [chuckles] 277 00:16:07,967 --> 00:16:09,635 Formlabs basically started... 278 00:16:09,718 --> 00:16:13,389 in the basement of the house that David and I were living in. 279 00:16:13,472 --> 00:16:14,765 Hi there. Hello. 280 00:16:14,848 --> 00:16:18,060 Basically, I've always wanted to be an inventor since I was a kid. 281 00:16:18,144 --> 00:16:19,520 I always looked up to the... 282 00:16:19,603 --> 00:16:22,106 My movie hero was the dad in Honey, I Shrunk the Kids. 283 00:16:23,190 --> 00:16:24,233 [clattering] 284 00:16:25,942 --> 00:16:28,029 We got this all started together, 285 00:16:28,112 --> 00:16:31,532 and we had, definitely, a lot of complementary skills. 286 00:16:35,827 --> 00:16:37,246 We built a prototype, 287 00:16:37,329 --> 00:16:41,125 and we were thinking about how to turn this into a business. 288 00:16:41,208 --> 00:16:42,418 Here it comes. 289 00:16:42,501 --> 00:16:46,672 We were making some progress, but it was definitely tough going. 290 00:16:49,175 --> 00:16:54,096 One day, they showed me this rook they printed on the first thing, 291 00:16:54,180 --> 00:16:55,264 and I was like, "Well, 292 00:16:55,347 --> 00:16:56,807 so, what are you guys gonna do with this stuff?" 293 00:16:56,890 --> 00:16:58,725 [Cranor] Natan came to us one day and was like, 294 00:16:58,809 --> 00:17:00,269 "I start companies. I know things about that. 295 00:17:00,352 --> 00:17:02,479 I've done it before, so you should let me talk to you about it." 296 00:17:03,897 --> 00:17:07,193 I said, "Somebody needs to do something better than MakerBot." 297 00:17:11,738 --> 00:17:14,658 We knew that there was a chunk of the market... 298 00:17:14,741 --> 00:17:17,828 that feels a bit uncomfortable with all the DIY, 299 00:17:17,911 --> 00:17:21,623 and feels slightly uncomfortable buying a $100,000 machine. 300 00:17:25,377 --> 00:17:27,546 I know, there were people out there. There was MakerBot out there, 301 00:17:27,629 --> 00:17:29,965 and all these extrusion-based printing processes. 302 00:17:30,049 --> 00:17:33,052 But the real gold standard in 3D printing technology 303 00:17:33,135 --> 00:17:34,261 is stereolithography. 304 00:17:34,345 --> 00:17:37,389 But the machines are just fantastically expensive 305 00:17:37,473 --> 00:17:41,477 and they're only made by big companies like 3D Systems and stuff. 306 00:17:43,354 --> 00:17:45,647 The founders of the company decided to go after stereolithography, 307 00:17:45,731 --> 00:17:48,692 so this is the first desktop stereolithography printer. 308 00:17:48,775 --> 00:17:52,946 The point is you can get quality similar to really high-end machines. 309 00:17:58,577 --> 00:18:00,579 No one's really done a prosumer 3D printer. 310 00:18:00,662 --> 00:18:02,373 No one's done a 3D printer that we really want. 311 00:18:02,456 --> 00:18:05,626 So we decided to do that. 312 00:18:11,006 --> 00:18:12,674 [indistinct conversations] 313 00:18:15,677 --> 00:18:17,971 I didn't hear about 3D printers in my life. 314 00:18:18,054 --> 00:18:21,933 It wasn't something that was talked about, and then it just started blowing up. 315 00:18:22,017 --> 00:18:23,935 -It did. -MakerBot especially. 316 00:18:24,019 --> 00:18:26,605 -It's crazy, yeah. [laughs] -Especially MakerBot. 317 00:18:26,688 --> 00:18:29,733 [Pettis] In many ways, it's a frontier. It's still young. 318 00:18:29,816 --> 00:18:32,486 People haven't done everything yet with 3D printing. 319 00:18:32,569 --> 00:18:35,364 So we get to make a trail. It's cool. 320 00:18:35,447 --> 00:18:36,990 It's a nice pleasure. 321 00:18:37,073 --> 00:18:38,742 -Cool. Good to meet you. -Glad to meet you, too. 322 00:18:38,825 --> 00:18:39,910 [female teacher] One, two, three, MakerBot. 323 00:18:39,993 --> 00:18:41,328 [all] MakerBot! [female teacher] Thank you, Bre! 324 00:18:41,412 --> 00:18:44,290 [all] Thank you, Bre! [laughs] 325 00:18:44,373 --> 00:18:47,543 For me, personally, I got into open source by being a teacher. 326 00:18:47,626 --> 00:18:49,336 I would take my lesson plans 327 00:18:49,420 --> 00:18:51,463 and put them up on GeoCities back in the day, 328 00:18:51,547 --> 00:18:53,549 and other teachers would do the same thing. 329 00:18:53,632 --> 00:18:56,802 Because we were sharing, it lightened the load for everybody, 330 00:18:56,885 --> 00:19:01,557 and it meant that we saved time and built a community. 331 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:04,976 When we started MakerBot, we knew we were gonna be open source hardware. 332 00:19:15,196 --> 00:19:16,697 In the open source world, 333 00:19:16,780 --> 00:19:20,742 developers share the backend knowledge of their products with the public, 334 00:19:20,826 --> 00:19:24,205 and if anyone in the community makes an improvement upon their work... 335 00:19:24,288 --> 00:19:27,040 that progress is folded back into production. 336 00:19:27,123 --> 00:19:30,211 And what happens when everyone is sharing in that sort of way 337 00:19:30,294 --> 00:19:33,004 is that improvements happen at a much faster rate. 338 00:19:34,506 --> 00:19:37,133 [O'Brien] So, the technology is gonna improve over time, 339 00:19:37,218 --> 00:19:40,136 but what's being built today, where the value is gonna be... 340 00:19:40,221 --> 00:19:43,765 is in the networks and the communities that are built around 3D printing. 341 00:19:47,853 --> 00:19:50,063 [Griffin] Early on, everybody looked at MakerBot 342 00:19:50,146 --> 00:19:54,067 as a model for how open hardware might go forward... 343 00:19:54,150 --> 00:19:56,653 and DIY projects, in general. 344 00:19:56,737 --> 00:19:58,947 The thing that would just break our hearts... 345 00:19:59,030 --> 00:20:02,075 is if someone were to take this design and make it really cool 346 00:20:02,158 --> 00:20:04,119 and not release those designs. 347 00:20:04,203 --> 00:20:06,538 So, as long as they stay open 348 00:20:06,622 --> 00:20:08,790 and everybody can have access to them forever, 349 00:20:08,874 --> 00:20:11,167 then that's what we want to happen. 350 00:20:12,294 --> 00:20:16,215 If you wanna solidify the future where open source is the norm... 351 00:20:16,298 --> 00:20:18,842 you have to support companies that do open source 352 00:20:18,925 --> 00:20:21,428 'cause I wanna live in that future where we share things 353 00:20:21,512 --> 00:20:23,680 and the world is a better place for it. 354 00:20:27,643 --> 00:20:28,852 [interviewer] Desk of Michael Curry. 355 00:20:28,935 --> 00:20:31,355 Do you want me to give you the short tour? 356 00:20:31,438 --> 00:20:32,981 -[interviewer] Yes, please. -All right then. Come on. 357 00:20:33,064 --> 00:20:35,776 Welcome to MakerBot's stellar offices. 358 00:20:35,859 --> 00:20:37,903 -Back here you've got... -[interviewer] 314 Dean Street. 359 00:20:37,986 --> 00:20:39,363 [Curry] We've got marketing milling around. 360 00:20:39,446 --> 00:20:40,739 -What's up? -[Curry] Please sit down. 361 00:20:40,822 --> 00:20:43,450 Let me show you the single most luxurious part 362 00:20:43,534 --> 00:20:45,244 -of MakerBot Industries. -[interviewer] Please. 363 00:20:45,327 --> 00:20:46,745 Just recently cleaned... 364 00:20:48,289 --> 00:20:49,873 we have the MakerBot bathroom. 365 00:20:49,956 --> 00:20:54,295 Something like 70 human beings use this bathroom at any given time. 366 00:20:54,378 --> 00:20:55,712 [chuckling] 367 00:20:57,298 --> 00:20:59,174 Let's face it. This is MakerBot. 368 00:20:59,258 --> 00:21:02,303 We're sitting in what used to be an ice cream warehouse. 369 00:21:02,386 --> 00:21:05,431 Nobody is here because the pay is amazing. 370 00:21:05,514 --> 00:21:06,557 Nobody is here 371 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:10,311 because they think our stock options are gonna be worth millions in the future. 372 00:21:10,394 --> 00:21:13,939 People work here because they believe in what we do, 373 00:21:14,022 --> 00:21:16,900 and because they like the people they work with. 374 00:21:16,983 --> 00:21:19,986 If a guy comes through a circle in the ceiling, 375 00:21:20,070 --> 00:21:21,405 I am just gonna laugh. 376 00:21:21,488 --> 00:21:22,989 [laughing] 377 00:21:23,073 --> 00:21:24,658 Welcome to MakerBot. 378 00:21:24,741 --> 00:21:26,618 You never quite know what's gonna happen next. 379 00:21:28,995 --> 00:21:31,623 You have to be able to thrive on the chaos of it. 380 00:21:31,707 --> 00:21:34,125 It's sort of a rite of passage where people would come in, 381 00:21:34,209 --> 00:21:35,711 you have to build your chair yourself, right. 382 00:21:35,794 --> 00:21:37,463 I mean, we're sitting on pieces of plywood here. 383 00:21:37,546 --> 00:21:39,423 Certain people can't deal with that. 384 00:21:40,382 --> 00:21:45,136 Matt and Rose are taking those parts and putting them together in kits. 385 00:21:45,220 --> 00:21:46,597 [Griffin] Everybody showed up 386 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:48,139 because there was a notion that 387 00:21:48,223 --> 00:21:51,393 we were all inventing what was gonna come next. 388 00:21:51,477 --> 00:21:53,186 This wasn't a company. 389 00:21:53,269 --> 00:21:56,272 This was a movement. This was a revolution. 390 00:21:57,858 --> 00:22:01,320 So, I became really addicted to 3D printing. 391 00:22:01,403 --> 00:22:03,822 I drank the Kool-Aid, 392 00:22:03,905 --> 00:22:07,368 and I said, "Wow, I have to come work for this company." 393 00:22:09,745 --> 00:22:14,249 [Pettis] We were like, "5,000 square feet. This is gonna take us years to fill up." 394 00:22:14,333 --> 00:22:16,418 And then two months later, it was full. 395 00:22:16,502 --> 00:22:22,215 And three years later, we're 85 people, which just boggles my mind. 396 00:22:22,298 --> 00:22:27,513 Bre is trying to take this germ of an idea... 397 00:22:27,596 --> 00:22:31,057 that 3D printing doesn't have to be $80,000 machines, 398 00:22:31,141 --> 00:22:33,435 it can be $2,000 machines. 399 00:22:33,519 --> 00:22:37,606 And the story there, the larger story, that MakerBot's trying to tell is, 400 00:22:37,689 --> 00:22:40,401 is functionally, anyone can do this. 401 00:22:40,484 --> 00:22:43,236 And so, I think Bre, not only is he a good storyteller, 402 00:22:43,319 --> 00:22:46,698 but he's enlisted people that are helping him tell this story. 403 00:22:53,872 --> 00:22:55,290 [Feld] One of our big drivers is that 404 00:22:55,373 --> 00:22:58,293 the entrepreneurs that we invest in are obsessed with their product. 405 00:22:58,376 --> 00:23:00,211 These guys were obsessed. 406 00:23:00,295 --> 00:23:04,174 Like, eyes-falling-out-of-their-head obsessed with this product, 407 00:23:04,257 --> 00:23:05,467 and that really turned us on. 408 00:23:05,551 --> 00:23:08,303 And then the last is we thought Bre was awesome. 409 00:23:13,642 --> 00:23:18,063 To me, our biggest challenge is actually that we've grown so quickly. 410 00:23:18,146 --> 00:23:20,482 We're a young organization. 411 00:23:20,566 --> 00:23:24,360 Every single one of us is in over our heads. 412 00:23:24,445 --> 00:23:27,989 Every single one of us is clawing to catch up 413 00:23:28,073 --> 00:23:31,242 with the potential and what's actually happening today. 414 00:23:37,999 --> 00:23:42,671 [Cranor] Formlabs is like the ragtag group of people with various different skills. 415 00:23:42,754 --> 00:23:44,923 We would tell people that we're getting the band back together 416 00:23:45,006 --> 00:23:46,675 when we were trying to hire people, 417 00:23:46,758 --> 00:23:48,093 'cause I would call friends from grad school 418 00:23:48,176 --> 00:23:49,302 and Max would call friends from back in the day, 419 00:23:49,385 --> 00:23:51,387 and be like, "We're getting the band back together!" 420 00:23:52,388 --> 00:23:54,891 [Luke Winston] Welcome to Formlabs. Give you a little tour. 421 00:23:54,975 --> 00:23:57,185 So, I'll start with our software department over here. 422 00:23:57,268 --> 00:23:58,269 Hi. 423 00:23:58,353 --> 00:24:00,438 And then moving out of our enormous software department. 424 00:24:00,522 --> 00:24:02,858 Over here's our-- He's our electrical engineering department. 425 00:24:02,941 --> 00:24:04,651 Yeah, you're a whole department. 426 00:24:04,735 --> 00:24:08,154 Zak right here is... He is our graphic and web designer. 427 00:24:08,238 --> 00:24:12,200 When I started, it was really small. 428 00:24:12,283 --> 00:24:13,451 It was four of us. 429 00:24:13,535 --> 00:24:17,539 My dirty secret is that before I came here, 430 00:24:17,623 --> 00:24:19,040 I actually applied to work at MakerBot, 431 00:24:19,124 --> 00:24:21,918 and a mark against them 432 00:24:22,002 --> 00:24:23,587 that they decided not to hire me and now I'm here, 433 00:24:23,670 --> 00:24:26,381 and so, they didn't hire me so I have to crush them. 434 00:24:30,426 --> 00:24:33,514 We decided that it would be a good idea to do a Kickstarter... 435 00:24:33,597 --> 00:24:35,807 because we had a prototype. It was coming together. 436 00:24:35,891 --> 00:24:37,601 All right, guys. 437 00:24:37,684 --> 00:24:41,271 Nice. Can't wait. 438 00:24:44,065 --> 00:24:47,569 People put in a substantial effort into making videos, taking photos... 439 00:24:47,653 --> 00:24:51,281 building websites with more information. 440 00:24:51,364 --> 00:24:55,744 We really actually diverted the focus of the company to that for a couple months. 441 00:24:57,120 --> 00:24:58,830 [camerawoman] Okay, action. 442 00:25:05,879 --> 00:25:08,506 And so now, it's time to start gearing up manufacturing 443 00:25:08,590 --> 00:25:11,259 so that we can get it into the hands of users everywhere 444 00:25:11,342 --> 00:25:14,137 but to do that requires substantial resources. 445 00:25:19,893 --> 00:25:20,977 [camerawoman] Okay, cut. 446 00:25:21,061 --> 00:25:22,979 So, we weren't entirely sure what was gonna happen. 447 00:25:23,063 --> 00:25:26,024 We were pretty sure we'd made something pretty dang cool... 448 00:25:26,107 --> 00:25:29,485 but the waters of the market are always a bit fickle. 449 00:25:31,572 --> 00:25:35,951 We were wondering if we would sell the first printer before noon. 450 00:25:36,034 --> 00:25:38,078 We'd launched it at 9:00 a.m. or 8:00 a.m., 451 00:25:38,161 --> 00:25:41,539 and we sold one within two minutes. 452 00:25:41,623 --> 00:25:44,209 By noon, we sold probably about 100. 453 00:25:49,255 --> 00:25:51,717 I thought if we do really well, it'll be over a million. 454 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:56,304 That's, like, if we do like really... that would be amazing. 455 00:25:57,472 --> 00:25:59,099 And that was like pipe-dream level. 456 00:26:10,401 --> 00:26:13,279 Over the 30-day campaign, we reached $2.9 million. 457 00:26:13,363 --> 00:26:18,534 I think we're still the highest project in the technology category on Kickstarter. 458 00:26:18,619 --> 00:26:20,036 [all] The day is coming! 459 00:26:20,120 --> 00:26:21,747 Whoo! 460 00:26:21,830 --> 00:26:25,083 We describe this right now as, like, the honeymoon period, so... 461 00:26:25,166 --> 00:26:27,252 That's what we're waiting to see play out. 462 00:26:27,377 --> 00:26:29,254 [Virginia White] Oh, shit! We forgot Jory. 463 00:26:29,337 --> 00:26:31,673 [all laughing] 464 00:26:31,757 --> 00:26:33,842 [Lobovsky] You set a timeline for yourself on Kickstarter 465 00:26:33,925 --> 00:26:40,015 and you just have to start moving there or bad things will happen. 466 00:26:58,825 --> 00:26:59,951 When we started... 467 00:27:00,035 --> 00:27:04,205 we had to take investment from friends to be able to actually initiate it. 468 00:27:04,289 --> 00:27:08,001 And when you do that, when you take investment, 469 00:27:08,084 --> 00:27:10,879 you have a responsibility to grow the company. 470 00:27:19,095 --> 00:27:20,596 All right, how do we get up there? 471 00:27:20,681 --> 00:27:24,517 Uh... Press one of those elevator buttons. 472 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:26,144 Pretty fancy. 473 00:27:26,227 --> 00:27:27,270 I know. An elevator! 474 00:27:27,353 --> 00:27:29,272 I feel like I work for National Grid. 475 00:27:29,355 --> 00:27:30,356 [Pettis] Hey, guys. 476 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,734 -Hey, Bre. -Good morning, Bre. 477 00:27:32,818 --> 00:27:36,196 We decided to look for a bigger space, and so we moved the office here. 478 00:27:37,363 --> 00:27:39,407 It's a little bit of a different game when you have this many people. 479 00:27:39,490 --> 00:27:43,954 I suppose it's like... going to the Major Leagues or something like that. 480 00:27:51,586 --> 00:27:53,421 [Gunipero] It's too big. I almost liked... 481 00:27:53,504 --> 00:27:57,759 I really liked being on top of everybody. 482 00:27:57,843 --> 00:28:01,346 It feels great. It feels new. 483 00:28:04,808 --> 00:28:07,643 It feels like we just jumped. It doesn't feel like... 484 00:28:07,728 --> 00:28:08,770 When was I here? 485 00:28:08,854 --> 00:28:11,898 I was here on the 21st, and we were all in that office. 486 00:28:11,982 --> 00:28:13,358 Now we're on the 21st floor, 487 00:28:13,441 --> 00:28:16,862 looking at Lady Liberty and the Manhattan Bridge. 488 00:28:20,281 --> 00:28:25,871 Now, the whole business is 248, 250. 489 00:28:25,954 --> 00:28:28,874 Maybe it's 260 today. 490 00:28:28,957 --> 00:28:31,376 We've literally hired 80 people in the last month. 491 00:28:31,459 --> 00:28:34,462 It's a bigger team, so it requires more infrastructure. 492 00:28:36,047 --> 00:28:42,929 I saw Bre as someone with incredible vision, incredible charisma... 493 00:28:43,013 --> 00:28:46,474 but he hadn't really been tempered by the ups and downs, 494 00:28:46,557 --> 00:28:48,852 by the hard, stressful things, 495 00:28:48,935 --> 00:28:53,273 by the inevitable stuff that's gonna get screwed up, 496 00:28:53,356 --> 00:28:55,275 especially in a fast-growing business. 497 00:28:56,401 --> 00:29:00,739 It's a real hard reality... 498 00:29:00,822 --> 00:29:02,991 that I'm just one person, 499 00:29:03,074 --> 00:29:06,411 and I can only get so much done in a day, 500 00:29:06,494 --> 00:29:09,205 and I can optimize a day to get a lot of stuff done, 501 00:29:09,289 --> 00:29:12,793 but it's still very limited in what you can do. 502 00:29:12,876 --> 00:29:13,877 [Feld] So it was very clear 503 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,129 that one of the things that we could do to help 504 00:29:16,212 --> 00:29:17,756 in one of the next steps... 505 00:29:17,839 --> 00:29:22,468 would be scaling up, not just the company, but the team. 506 00:29:22,552 --> 00:29:25,388 Our lead investor, Brad Feld, is a good friend of mine. 507 00:29:25,471 --> 00:29:27,849 I've known Brad for a long time, uh... 508 00:29:27,933 --> 00:29:29,309 and I was just ending a job 509 00:29:29,392 --> 00:29:32,645 and so he said, "Maybe you should try this company MakerBot." 510 00:29:35,273 --> 00:29:39,235 I always look at this stage of a company as trying to put a spine in a jellyfish. 511 00:29:39,319 --> 00:29:43,531 And in order to do that, you've got to have systems in place of a real company. 512 00:29:43,614 --> 00:29:45,826 You've gotta have process. You gotta know how things work. 513 00:29:47,660 --> 00:29:50,413 MakerBot was made up of and run, at that point, 514 00:29:50,496 --> 00:29:54,334 by almost exclusively by people who were doing this all for the first time... 515 00:29:54,417 --> 00:29:58,839 and one of the first things I think I helped them figure out that summer was 516 00:29:58,922 --> 00:30:01,507 the market is more designers and engineers 517 00:30:01,591 --> 00:30:04,010 rather than, "This is a toy for making toys." 518 00:30:07,347 --> 00:30:10,809 They've gotten to where they have gotten where they are today 519 00:30:10,892 --> 00:30:13,686 without a lot of strategic 520 00:30:13,769 --> 00:30:16,940 knowing where the North Star is and heading for the North Star. 521 00:30:17,023 --> 00:30:20,693 So I would like to see them find that North Star, 522 00:30:20,776 --> 00:30:22,988 run as fast as they can towards it 523 00:30:23,071 --> 00:30:25,198 and just not even look over their shoulder. 524 00:30:26,324 --> 00:30:27,826 How long have you been with the company? 525 00:30:27,909 --> 00:30:30,578 -About six months. My son is the CEO. -Okay. Oh, he is? 526 00:30:30,661 --> 00:30:32,372 He's the maker. 527 00:30:32,455 --> 00:30:36,751 He's the creator. He's the explorer and he's an awesome leader... 528 00:30:36,835 --> 00:30:38,336 and I'm happy to follow his lead. 529 00:30:43,508 --> 00:30:44,885 [Pettis] I get to take it to the next level. 530 00:30:44,968 --> 00:30:48,054 I'm gonna learn a lot about how to operate a company at this level, 531 00:30:48,138 --> 00:30:53,935 and have inspiration and mentorship going forward 532 00:30:54,019 --> 00:30:55,896 about how to take things even farther. 533 00:30:57,939 --> 00:30:59,774 [Curry] The world that MakerBot is trying to create 534 00:30:59,858 --> 00:31:01,985 is very much still up in the air. 535 00:31:02,068 --> 00:31:08,116 We are a business, and we are a printer in search of our killer application, 536 00:31:08,199 --> 00:31:11,536 in search of the thing that makes everybody want us. 537 00:31:16,249 --> 00:31:18,751 How's that national conversation going? 538 00:31:27,427 --> 00:31:30,096 By Defense Distributed in Austin, Texas. 539 00:31:36,436 --> 00:31:38,854 Welcome to the age of the printed magazine. 540 00:31:48,739 --> 00:31:50,241 What are cool things you can make out of plastic? 541 00:31:50,325 --> 00:31:53,036 Well, there's lots of, like, trinkets and action figures and stuff, 542 00:31:53,119 --> 00:31:55,038 but this appeals to a very small set of people. 543 00:31:55,121 --> 00:31:57,498 It's the complex mechanism and the useful object... 544 00:31:57,582 --> 00:31:58,624 that the 3D printer should be able to make 545 00:31:58,708 --> 00:32:00,251 to encourage wide adoption. 546 00:32:00,335 --> 00:32:02,295 But if some of those useful objects are too useful, 547 00:32:02,378 --> 00:32:04,089 well, they won't be allowed to be made. 548 00:32:05,298 --> 00:32:08,509 As is always the case with disruptive technologies... 549 00:32:08,593 --> 00:32:10,261 they can do a lot of good, 550 00:32:10,345 --> 00:32:11,930 and there are always brilliant minds 551 00:32:12,013 --> 00:32:15,766 that will think of all the unintended uses of the technology. 552 00:32:23,274 --> 00:32:25,360 It is 3D printing's first killer app, 553 00:32:25,443 --> 00:32:28,738 and it's one of the things that really sells interest in 3D printing. 554 00:32:28,821 --> 00:32:30,698 People message me all the time and they're saying, uh, 555 00:32:30,781 --> 00:32:33,034 "Okay, yeah, this is cool now. I'm gonna buy a 3D printer. 556 00:32:33,118 --> 00:32:34,744 I wanna make lower receivers and magazines." 557 00:32:34,827 --> 00:32:36,037 That's cool. 558 00:32:36,121 --> 00:32:37,288 [sighs] 559 00:32:37,372 --> 00:32:38,748 I'm gonna introduce you to Cody Wilson. 560 00:32:38,831 --> 00:32:41,667 He has been called one of the most dangerous men on Earth. 561 00:32:41,751 --> 00:32:44,795 [Wilson] We're information anarchists. We don't believe that there is... 562 00:32:44,879 --> 00:32:47,298 public and private information necessarily 563 00:32:47,382 --> 00:32:48,674 or public and private access to things. 564 00:32:48,758 --> 00:32:50,468 There should be one law. If the police can have it, 565 00:32:50,551 --> 00:32:52,345 if the military can have it, then you can have it. 566 00:32:52,428 --> 00:32:54,722 You're not a different caliber or quality of person. 567 00:32:54,805 --> 00:32:57,433 We want to build the printable gun. 568 00:32:57,517 --> 00:32:59,185 [female news anchor] A digital design for a gun 569 00:32:59,269 --> 00:33:04,315 that anyone can download and build using a 3D printer. 570 00:33:06,817 --> 00:33:09,154 Is this guy a hero or a villain? 571 00:33:09,237 --> 00:33:10,571 That's a good question. 572 00:33:20,248 --> 00:33:22,292 [laughing] 573 00:33:22,375 --> 00:33:24,169 Just don't laugh. Just don't laugh. 574 00:33:25,461 --> 00:33:29,090 Joe Biden? This is no country for old men. 575 00:33:30,966 --> 00:33:32,218 What I'm so ecstatic about 576 00:33:32,302 --> 00:33:35,930 is making these Democrats, these Conservatives, 577 00:33:36,014 --> 00:33:37,807 these people who operate through the state, 578 00:33:37,890 --> 00:33:41,061 confronting them very visually, very exotically with a new technology, 579 00:33:41,144 --> 00:33:43,063 with the fact that they can't control the future 580 00:33:43,146 --> 00:33:45,648 the way they tend to pretend that they can. 581 00:33:47,192 --> 00:33:51,154 What happens if people get too freaked out by this technology... 582 00:33:51,237 --> 00:33:54,699 and very restrictive laws are put into place 583 00:33:54,782 --> 00:33:58,161 around the manufacture and distribution of 584 00:33:58,244 --> 00:33:59,995 what's considered to be a "dangerous technology"? 585 00:34:00,996 --> 00:34:02,707 You know, that could happen in six weeks' time. 586 00:34:02,790 --> 00:34:06,544 And that could have a double digit impact upon 587 00:34:06,627 --> 00:34:09,130 all of these companies' revenue streams. 588 00:34:15,095 --> 00:34:16,971 I'm here to say, "No, the vandals are coming. 589 00:34:17,055 --> 00:34:19,474 My generation has other plans 590 00:34:19,557 --> 00:34:21,016 and it's really not to comfort you 591 00:34:21,101 --> 00:34:23,686 or to let you know how you can buy it and use it well. 592 00:34:23,769 --> 00:34:24,770 It's to let you know this... 593 00:34:24,854 --> 00:34:27,857 We intend for this to be a very significant technology 594 00:34:27,940 --> 00:34:29,900 for reasons wholly our own." 595 00:34:45,333 --> 00:34:46,917 [applause] 596 00:34:52,132 --> 00:34:55,343 This is probably my favorite talk to give of the year... 597 00:34:55,426 --> 00:34:58,304 -'cause you all are my people. -[applause] 598 00:34:58,388 --> 00:35:01,099 I would guess that there's probably 599 00:35:01,182 --> 00:35:06,146 somewhere between two and 20 companies in this room. 600 00:35:06,229 --> 00:35:08,356 Something emerging from a hackerspace 601 00:35:08,439 --> 00:35:10,900 or, you know, a project that somebody is doing that they did on the weekend 602 00:35:10,983 --> 00:35:12,443 and then all of a sudden they're finding that 603 00:35:12,527 --> 00:35:14,654 it's really popular and they have to start a business. 604 00:35:14,737 --> 00:35:15,738 [audience applauds] 605 00:35:15,821 --> 00:35:18,491 Mr. Pettis, do you mind if I get the honor of having a snapshot with you? 606 00:35:18,574 --> 00:35:19,575 Sure! 607 00:35:20,743 --> 00:35:22,077 -Great. -Coolness. 608 00:35:22,162 --> 00:35:24,622 Cool. Good to meet you. A pleasure. Excellent. 609 00:35:24,705 --> 00:35:26,499 Hello. Hey, how you doing? 610 00:35:26,582 --> 00:35:28,126 [inaudible] 611 00:35:28,209 --> 00:35:33,798 I think if we had a Bre that represented our product, 612 00:35:33,881 --> 00:35:35,800 then that would be a great thing. 613 00:35:35,883 --> 00:35:38,553 I'm definitely not that person just because 614 00:35:38,636 --> 00:35:42,557 I'm generally not a good public speaker and things like that. 615 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,310 You know, I'm not charismatic. 616 00:35:45,393 --> 00:35:47,770 I tell a lot of people that 617 00:35:47,853 --> 00:35:51,274 in the Formlabs making story that 618 00:35:51,357 --> 00:35:54,569 a big part of me realized, you know, 619 00:35:54,652 --> 00:35:57,280 deciding to do it and thinking that I could do it 620 00:35:57,363 --> 00:35:59,365 was seeing what you guys did early on. 621 00:35:59,449 --> 00:36:00,866 Thank you. 622 00:36:00,950 --> 00:36:05,621 You guys getting started with nothing, and hearing the story and everything, 623 00:36:05,705 --> 00:36:08,833 it was really cool to see. 624 00:36:11,544 --> 00:36:13,838 One of the things though, is when I see a competitor, 625 00:36:13,921 --> 00:36:15,798 when I see somebody entering this space, 626 00:36:15,881 --> 00:36:18,176 I'm actually curious about what they did differently, 627 00:36:18,259 --> 00:36:21,221 if there's anything they did that pushes it farther. 628 00:36:21,304 --> 00:36:24,557 Like when Form 1 came out, that's a different type of material. 629 00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:26,851 They're using lasers and goo. 630 00:36:26,934 --> 00:36:28,102 And I was like, 631 00:36:28,186 --> 00:36:30,355 "Someone's finally entering that space. That'll be interesting. 632 00:36:30,438 --> 00:36:33,358 I wanna see where that goes." 633 00:36:33,441 --> 00:36:35,860 So I got one. I'm still waiting for it. 634 00:36:35,943 --> 00:36:37,069 [chuckles] 635 00:36:47,497 --> 00:36:51,209 So, we're having some challenges with... 636 00:36:51,292 --> 00:36:56,506 the various CSS buttons and... 637 00:36:56,589 --> 00:36:58,424 [Lobovsky] I mean, it sounds clear to me, like, 638 00:36:58,508 --> 00:37:01,552 we were doing it the wrong way and this is the right way. 639 00:37:01,636 --> 00:37:05,515 I understand its risk, but it's fine. 640 00:37:05,598 --> 00:37:07,975 A lot of times, you're starting a little company. 641 00:37:08,058 --> 00:37:09,227 You're in charge. 642 00:37:09,310 --> 00:37:13,606 There's a lot of testosterone, ego, lots of-- 643 00:37:13,689 --> 00:37:17,192 And that's just, I think, gonna be natural, that's gonna happen, 644 00:37:17,277 --> 00:37:20,738 but often that means that you don't listen and you don't hear. 645 00:37:20,821 --> 00:37:23,408 He's definitely... 646 00:37:23,491 --> 00:37:25,034 somewhat socially impaired. 647 00:37:25,117 --> 00:37:28,120 He has such a hard time communicating. 648 00:37:28,203 --> 00:37:29,289 Yes, he gets to the point, 649 00:37:29,372 --> 00:37:31,749 but he doesn't know how to communicate eloquently. 650 00:37:31,832 --> 00:37:34,460 I think it's a much bigger failure 651 00:37:34,544 --> 00:37:38,506 if you and Zach waste several days of time than this thing comes in two days late. 652 00:37:38,589 --> 00:37:39,632 -Sure. -I think that's... 653 00:37:39,715 --> 00:37:40,716 That's the way I see it. 654 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:42,635 -Okay. -Excellent. 655 00:37:48,098 --> 00:37:49,850 [Cranor] We got funding and it's very exciting, 656 00:37:49,934 --> 00:37:51,686 but what a lot of people... 657 00:37:51,769 --> 00:37:54,689 who are doing start-ups don't think about, who get very excited... 658 00:37:54,772 --> 00:37:56,649 "Yeah, I got, you know, tons of money from people. 659 00:37:56,732 --> 00:37:57,900 I got investors. It's great! 660 00:37:57,983 --> 00:37:59,860 I'm gonna go out and buy stuff for my office. 661 00:37:59,944 --> 00:38:01,529 I got a nice chair and everything like that." 662 00:38:01,612 --> 00:38:02,655 It's like, no, you have to remember, 663 00:38:02,738 --> 00:38:04,490 when people give you money to start a company, 664 00:38:04,574 --> 00:38:06,492 you have to give it back. 665 00:38:06,576 --> 00:38:07,785 Things get way more real 666 00:38:07,868 --> 00:38:12,623 when you're suddenly sitting on more than $1 million of other people's money. 667 00:38:12,707 --> 00:38:17,002 [Lobovsky] Yeah, the Kickstarter was so big, so successful 668 00:38:17,086 --> 00:38:18,713 that it really pushed us 669 00:38:18,796 --> 00:38:22,508 to move the whole company forward more quickly, 670 00:38:22,592 --> 00:38:24,134 hire more people across the company, 671 00:38:24,218 --> 00:38:27,221 commit to more serious manufacturing. 672 00:38:29,515 --> 00:38:32,893 [Ferguson] I wanted to talk to you guys. We wanted to start... 673 00:38:32,977 --> 00:38:34,269 We don't have to go back and change anything, 674 00:38:34,354 --> 00:38:36,063 but we wanted to start installing the lasers... 675 00:38:36,146 --> 00:38:37,982 -Yeah. -...at different orientation. 676 00:38:38,065 --> 00:38:39,817 It's actually pretty frustrating right now... 677 00:38:39,900 --> 00:38:41,402 working with our contract manufacturer. 678 00:38:41,486 --> 00:38:42,945 They're really struggling to meet our demands. 679 00:38:43,028 --> 00:38:44,489 [machinery whirring] 680 00:38:46,073 --> 00:38:49,118 It's a three out of nine, 33% failure rate, 681 00:38:49,201 --> 00:38:51,829 right now at test printing, which is not good. 682 00:38:55,750 --> 00:38:58,503 Okay, so, the big take-away, though, from it all 683 00:38:58,586 --> 00:39:00,129 is they're super-focused on quality. 684 00:39:00,212 --> 00:39:03,090 So, we threw out half the sheet metal while we were there. 685 00:39:03,173 --> 00:39:05,676 We're holding. We're having a... 686 00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:07,803 -Holding court? -[Ferguson] Holding court here. 687 00:39:07,887 --> 00:39:10,681 We threw out over half the sheet metal that came in. 688 00:39:10,765 --> 00:39:12,350 Top and bottom shelves and front plates. 689 00:39:12,433 --> 00:39:13,809 What happened? 690 00:39:13,893 --> 00:39:17,813 [Ferguson] There's just bad marks on them, bite marks, burn marks from anodization. 691 00:39:24,111 --> 00:39:26,071 When we started doing this, it was like, 692 00:39:26,155 --> 00:39:27,823 "Oh, here's my friend who does something similar, 693 00:39:27,907 --> 00:39:29,617 and here's my other friend who does something similar." 694 00:39:29,700 --> 00:39:32,870 The chances that those are the right people to be there 695 00:39:32,953 --> 00:39:36,374 when there's a team of 10 or 20 or something like that, 696 00:39:36,457 --> 00:39:40,335 it's just... you're not likely to get that right. 697 00:39:41,504 --> 00:39:43,464 When you're doing a start-up... 698 00:39:43,548 --> 00:39:45,633 everything feels like it's exploding all the time, 699 00:39:45,716 --> 00:39:47,843 and you have to be able to 700 00:39:47,927 --> 00:39:51,764 take a calm, deep breath and make sure that you're on the right track. 701 00:39:51,847 --> 00:39:54,308 And Max is very good at being confident 702 00:39:54,392 --> 00:39:57,895 in doing what he feels to be the right thing to do is, 703 00:39:57,978 --> 00:39:59,354 and he's usually right. 704 00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,588 We really have spent a lot of time in the past year re-branding ourselves 705 00:40:23,671 --> 00:40:26,131 so that we're not that consumer play... 706 00:40:26,215 --> 00:40:27,758 that we're not the hacker. 707 00:40:27,842 --> 00:40:29,719 We're really the prosumer. 708 00:40:29,802 --> 00:40:32,262 You know, we want a professional who needs this on their desktop 709 00:40:32,346 --> 00:40:35,182 to think about MakerBot as the solution. 710 00:40:35,265 --> 00:40:37,059 Do you need to be introduced, or are you able to do this all on your own? 711 00:40:37,142 --> 00:40:38,185 I can do this all on my own. 712 00:40:38,268 --> 00:40:39,311 Thank you. 713 00:40:40,813 --> 00:40:44,233 All right. Ladies and gentlemen. 714 00:40:45,485 --> 00:40:49,071 Our MakerBot press conference announcements 715 00:40:49,154 --> 00:40:51,240 will start... now. 716 00:40:51,323 --> 00:40:53,993 At MakerBot, we're an innovation company. 717 00:40:54,076 --> 00:40:57,079 We're out to fuel the next industrial revolution 718 00:40:57,162 --> 00:41:00,249 by putting the power to manufacture things in your hands. 719 00:41:02,001 --> 00:41:03,002 Here we go. 720 00:41:03,085 --> 00:41:04,504 [imitating bugle] 721 00:41:04,587 --> 00:41:05,588 [vocalizes] 722 00:41:05,671 --> 00:41:07,214 [Pettis talking indistinctly] 723 00:41:18,643 --> 00:41:19,894 [Cranor] Idealism is very important, 724 00:41:19,977 --> 00:41:22,688 and maintaining true to your goals is very important. 725 00:41:22,772 --> 00:41:24,857 But I think MakerBot, when they pivoted, 726 00:41:24,940 --> 00:41:26,942 they went closed source 727 00:41:27,067 --> 00:41:29,945 and I think that that was a pretty dark day for the... 728 00:41:30,029 --> 00:41:32,948 for the Maker open source community. 729 00:41:38,788 --> 00:41:42,124 MakerBot's getting a lot of hate lately because they went closed source... 730 00:41:42,207 --> 00:41:46,045 and so they're not really actively contributing back to the community. 731 00:41:46,128 --> 00:41:48,881 I'm not saying you can't protect some aspects of it. 732 00:41:48,964 --> 00:41:54,428 I'm saying that the way that it was done by MakerBot is particularly shitty 733 00:41:54,512 --> 00:41:58,015 when you have a company mission statement in Wiki 734 00:41:58,098 --> 00:42:00,935 that's all about, "We're open source, blah, blah, blah." 735 00:42:01,018 --> 00:42:04,647 People were very upset because... 736 00:42:04,730 --> 00:42:08,067 while they could appreciate that MakerBot wanted to make a buck, 737 00:42:08,150 --> 00:42:11,403 they felt like, "Oh, I've put thousands of hours 738 00:42:11,486 --> 00:42:14,114 into solving these problems and sharing them. 739 00:42:14,198 --> 00:42:17,076 Did I do that so that... 740 00:42:17,159 --> 00:42:19,453 just to benefit this select group of people 741 00:42:19,537 --> 00:42:22,790 when the mission was to transform humanity?" 742 00:42:22,873 --> 00:42:26,586 I'm making really hard decisions that are personally painful, 743 00:42:26,669 --> 00:42:29,797 but are amazing for the business and are accelerating things. 744 00:42:34,844 --> 00:42:38,347 With MakerBot, we kind of had a falling out between the founders, 745 00:42:38,430 --> 00:42:40,474 in particular, me and Bre, 746 00:42:40,558 --> 00:42:45,312 and it really kind of came down to differences in opinion 747 00:42:45,395 --> 00:42:47,857 around vision of where we wanted the company to be. 748 00:42:47,940 --> 00:42:49,900 So I wanted to build something 749 00:42:49,984 --> 00:42:55,530 that was kind of this democratized, open-sourced hardware 3D printing company 750 00:42:55,615 --> 00:42:59,201 whereas I think Bre's idea was more of, 751 00:42:59,284 --> 00:43:03,038 "Let's just build really sexy, Apple-style 3D printers. 752 00:43:03,122 --> 00:43:06,250 It's not so important if they're open or closed-source." 753 00:43:06,333 --> 00:43:09,544 But for me, open-source was something that I was very... 754 00:43:09,629 --> 00:43:13,090 that I am very strongly passionate about. 755 00:43:24,434 --> 00:43:29,106 You can't live in the fantasy world and have a business, too, sometimes. 756 00:43:31,358 --> 00:43:33,235 I think Bre handled things really well. 757 00:43:33,318 --> 00:43:36,530 It was incredibly hard on him emotionally. 758 00:43:36,614 --> 00:43:38,616 I think he took some things personally. 759 00:43:38,699 --> 00:43:41,827 I think he internalized some of the stress. 760 00:43:41,911 --> 00:43:44,872 But he owned it. He wasn't... 761 00:43:46,081 --> 00:43:48,125 He was a CEO. 762 00:43:57,635 --> 00:43:59,594 It's interesting taking a company from being a start-up into... 763 00:43:59,679 --> 00:44:02,264 into being a little more mature. 764 00:44:02,347 --> 00:44:05,643 Now we have closed-source. We have secrets. 765 00:44:05,726 --> 00:44:10,064 We have compartmentalized secrets, and that's a really big change. 766 00:44:12,900 --> 00:44:14,109 [Buell] The company has grown so fast. 767 00:44:14,193 --> 00:44:17,404 We came from a small start-up in a garage... 768 00:44:17,487 --> 00:44:19,031 literally a year ago 769 00:44:19,114 --> 00:44:22,451 to now this beautiful office space with 300 people, 770 00:44:22,534 --> 00:44:25,913 and we have free apples and Danishes. 771 00:44:25,996 --> 00:44:28,457 I'm sorry. One second. Did you need me? Did you need them? 772 00:44:28,540 --> 00:44:30,542 [female colleague] No, I heard you were looking for me. 773 00:44:30,625 --> 00:44:33,170 Oh, I wanted to make sure that it was okay that I talk to them. 774 00:44:33,253 --> 00:44:36,048 Well, there's just different rules we have to be careful of. 775 00:44:36,131 --> 00:44:39,343 Things you talk about, things that you say. 776 00:44:39,426 --> 00:44:41,804 I don't know if I should say this on camera, 777 00:44:41,887 --> 00:44:45,515 but this is very, very different. 778 00:44:45,599 --> 00:44:47,309 We're doing briefs 779 00:44:47,392 --> 00:44:52,064 and we have project documents and checklists and departments now. 780 00:44:52,147 --> 00:44:55,609 We have processes and, um... Yeah. 781 00:44:55,692 --> 00:44:57,236 We used to be very, very effective 782 00:44:57,319 --> 00:45:00,030 at getting things done on a very short timeline. 783 00:45:00,114 --> 00:45:01,573 You come up with an idea on Monday. 784 00:45:01,656 --> 00:45:03,993 We could have it out the door on Wednesday. 785 00:45:05,327 --> 00:45:07,329 Now, we have situations where 786 00:45:07,412 --> 00:45:11,458 we pat ourselves on the back that something only took five months... 787 00:45:11,541 --> 00:45:12,835 and that's... 788 00:45:12,918 --> 00:45:14,586 To me, that seems like we lost something. 789 00:45:17,172 --> 00:45:18,298 I actually don't want to 790 00:45:18,382 --> 00:45:21,886 put too much energy into talking about secret stuff, 791 00:45:21,969 --> 00:45:24,304 and I can't really... This is why I don't talk about... 792 00:45:24,388 --> 00:45:26,140 That's why-- Cut, cut, cut. 793 00:45:50,831 --> 00:45:53,125 Thingiverse.com is basically 794 00:45:53,208 --> 00:45:56,336 the public repository of all the cool Maker files... 795 00:45:56,420 --> 00:45:58,463 that you can download and use. 796 00:45:58,547 --> 00:46:00,966 Especially if you're within the MakerBot family. 797 00:46:02,717 --> 00:46:06,680 Every day I go to our website, thingiverse.com, and I get inspired by 798 00:46:06,763 --> 00:46:09,599 people who have MakerBots and are doing amazing things. 799 00:46:09,683 --> 00:46:14,646 We created Thingiverse to be the ultimate place to go and share 800 00:46:14,729 --> 00:46:16,398 downloadable digital designs. 801 00:46:17,607 --> 00:46:18,650 [Wilson] My thought was, 802 00:46:18,733 --> 00:46:21,028 "Okay, well, anything we do, we'll just put up to Thingiverse as well. 803 00:46:21,111 --> 00:46:22,529 That's the place. That's the space." 804 00:46:24,865 --> 00:46:26,075 After we had been in the news for some testing 805 00:46:26,158 --> 00:46:28,911 and then Sandy Hook happened maybe just a few days later. 806 00:46:28,994 --> 00:46:31,914 Bre, MakerBot, right, pulled the files, and they said... 807 00:46:31,997 --> 00:46:33,332 Well, they said, "Well, nothing's changed. 808 00:46:33,415 --> 00:46:35,667 We're just executing on our terms of service." 809 00:46:45,302 --> 00:46:48,305 When somebody gets murdered with a MakerBoted handgun, like... 810 00:46:48,388 --> 00:46:49,473 Then what happens, right? 811 00:46:49,556 --> 00:46:52,434 And I don't want-- That's years away, but I-- 812 00:46:52,517 --> 00:46:55,020 It's someday-- It's-- At some point, it's going to happen. 813 00:46:58,648 --> 00:47:01,485 [Wilson] There wasn't a debate about it on Thingiverse, right? 814 00:47:01,568 --> 00:47:02,611 Thingiverse with its mantra is, 815 00:47:02,694 --> 00:47:06,448 "Well, we're all collaborating together and we're a community of equals," right? 816 00:47:06,531 --> 00:47:07,574 But at the end of the day, 817 00:47:07,657 --> 00:47:10,870 you reveal the sovereignty and the power acquired upstairs, 818 00:47:10,953 --> 00:47:14,039 like, there is a class of people who can just take your stuff down. 819 00:47:19,962 --> 00:47:22,672 There's this duality between 820 00:47:22,756 --> 00:47:27,052 the outlaw aesthetic of the Cody Wilsons... 821 00:47:27,136 --> 00:47:32,766 and the start-up entrepreneur pure-hearted capitalist perspective 822 00:47:32,849 --> 00:47:34,101 of the Bre Pettises. 823 00:47:34,184 --> 00:47:36,311 I would see press about how he and-- 824 00:47:36,395 --> 00:47:40,357 "It's the open source revolution and Bre Pettis is leading it." 825 00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:41,858 And I was like, "Man, that's a sham." 826 00:47:44,861 --> 00:47:46,321 Especially once those gun files were taken down, 827 00:47:46,405 --> 00:47:48,240 I was like, "What are we going to do?" 828 00:47:48,323 --> 00:47:51,952 I told Haroon. I was like, "Let's do our own." 829 00:47:54,413 --> 00:47:56,581 In the summer of 2012, a group of friends and I 830 00:47:56,665 --> 00:47:59,376 started the project called Defense Distributed. 831 00:47:59,459 --> 00:48:01,962 We wanted to use a 3D printer to print a gun, 832 00:48:02,046 --> 00:48:03,713 and release the files open source. 833 00:48:03,797 --> 00:48:05,132 And when this guy decided that 834 00:48:05,215 --> 00:48:08,427 "radically open" meant not so radical, not so open... 835 00:48:08,510 --> 00:48:10,262 DEFCAD was born. 836 00:48:13,765 --> 00:48:16,560 MakerBot is happy to say, "Well, we're free and open 837 00:48:16,643 --> 00:48:20,564 and it's all about radically open access and it's all about the revolution." 838 00:48:20,647 --> 00:48:22,482 And I say like, "Well, this is just a-- 839 00:48:22,566 --> 00:48:25,277 This is advertising. It's meant to sell you a toy." 840 00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:27,571 Can 3D printing be subversive? 841 00:48:27,654 --> 00:48:31,283 If it can, it will be because it allows us to make the important things, 842 00:48:31,366 --> 00:48:33,327 not trinkets, not lawn gnomes, 843 00:48:33,410 --> 00:48:35,495 but the things that institutions and industries 844 00:48:35,579 --> 00:48:37,372 have an interest in keeping from us. 845 00:48:42,461 --> 00:48:46,465 Talk is nice. Platitudes are easy. But a revolution... 846 00:48:47,799 --> 00:48:49,468 means a revolution. 847 00:48:56,808 --> 00:48:58,185 [Stacey over microphone] At this time, I would like to 848 00:48:58,268 --> 00:49:01,105 turn the presentation over to our CEO, Avi Reichental. 849 00:49:07,277 --> 00:49:08,570 Thank you, Stacey. 850 00:49:08,653 --> 00:49:14,243 Good morning, everybody, and welcome to our Annual Investor Day. 851 00:49:16,328 --> 00:49:18,955 I always have a great deal of respect 852 00:49:19,039 --> 00:49:22,542 and an element of healthy paranoia 853 00:49:22,626 --> 00:49:27,464 about what my competitors 854 00:49:27,547 --> 00:49:31,010 or yet-to-be competitors might come up with 855 00:49:31,093 --> 00:49:33,428 and I think that's important. 856 00:49:33,512 --> 00:49:34,888 We believe that 857 00:49:34,971 --> 00:49:38,392 there is never a good time to make a difficult decision. 858 00:49:38,475 --> 00:49:41,395 So, when difficult decisions need to be made, 859 00:49:41,478 --> 00:49:44,814 we like to make them sooner rather than later. 860 00:49:47,776 --> 00:49:49,361 [phone ringing] 861 00:49:56,243 --> 00:49:57,661 [talking indistinctly] 862 00:49:59,746 --> 00:50:01,415 Luke answered the phone and he thought he was being-- 863 00:50:01,498 --> 00:50:03,583 That it was a prank. 864 00:50:03,667 --> 00:50:07,212 Because Avi called the office phone, 865 00:50:07,296 --> 00:50:10,590 and he said "You'll be served." 866 00:50:12,217 --> 00:50:13,968 And that's how it started. 867 00:50:16,971 --> 00:50:18,848 We were flabbergasted because 868 00:50:18,932 --> 00:50:21,976 how can they even know we're doing-- 869 00:50:22,061 --> 00:50:24,604 We haven't shipped the machine. There's just the video out there. 870 00:50:24,688 --> 00:50:26,815 Nobody saw the software, 871 00:50:26,898 --> 00:50:28,983 and they asserted some software patent, and it was like-- 872 00:50:29,068 --> 00:50:32,446 And Max was immediately, "This is bullshit." 873 00:50:32,529 --> 00:50:36,783 It's a big company with lots of IP and lots of money and it's a shakedown. 874 00:50:36,866 --> 00:50:38,034 [scoffs] 875 00:50:40,537 --> 00:50:43,582 [Reichental] We had to take the action that we took 876 00:50:43,665 --> 00:50:48,587 based on monetizing the 1,200 plus patents that we have. 877 00:50:48,670 --> 00:50:54,468 We have more patents than we have employees in 3D Systems. 878 00:50:54,551 --> 00:50:57,387 I think that the fact that Formlabs got sued by 3D Systems 879 00:50:57,471 --> 00:51:00,056 means that we're doing something right. 880 00:51:02,184 --> 00:51:03,685 Yeah. 881 00:51:03,768 --> 00:51:06,980 No one wants to be in a lawsuit. No sane person wants to be in them. 882 00:51:07,063 --> 00:51:08,232 They're very expensive. 883 00:51:08,315 --> 00:51:10,609 Even if you think you've got the rights of it, 884 00:51:10,692 --> 00:51:13,903 it could cost a fortune to prove it and you may lose. 885 00:51:13,987 --> 00:51:17,116 But it's also not a lawsuit that we think that we're wrong in. 886 00:51:19,159 --> 00:51:20,494 [talking indistinctly] 887 00:51:21,661 --> 00:51:23,455 [Lobovsky] Definitely didn't think that 888 00:51:23,538 --> 00:51:25,665 they're actually accusing us of stealing or whatever. 889 00:51:25,749 --> 00:51:27,667 I think they're just running their business 890 00:51:27,751 --> 00:51:29,378 the way they run their business. 891 00:51:29,461 --> 00:51:32,256 We're gonna run ours the way we run ours. 892 00:51:46,270 --> 00:51:49,231 [Wilson sighing] These boxes are the uPrint SE Plus Printer. 893 00:51:49,314 --> 00:51:51,775 This is as far as I had gotten. 894 00:51:51,858 --> 00:51:54,444 So, for the record, I was trying to print guns with that printer. 895 00:51:55,654 --> 00:51:58,490 They took it away 'cause I was trying to print guns with it. 896 00:51:58,573 --> 00:52:00,450 Just to let you know. 897 00:52:06,456 --> 00:52:07,582 To be honest with you, 898 00:52:07,666 --> 00:52:10,669 I'd prefer to stay away from the whole Cody discussion if that's okay. 899 00:52:11,836 --> 00:52:13,380 Yeah. I can neither confirm nor deny. 900 00:52:13,463 --> 00:52:15,048 [laughs] 901 00:52:15,131 --> 00:52:18,218 Again, I'm late to the 3D printing party, or a marginal character. 902 00:52:18,302 --> 00:52:20,679 I wasn't invited. I've just been out here 903 00:52:20,762 --> 00:52:23,139 waving my hands saying, "Hey, hey, look at this!" 904 00:52:23,223 --> 00:52:24,308 And they hate it. 905 00:52:24,391 --> 00:52:27,686 They really do. Uh, sorry. 906 00:52:28,603 --> 00:52:30,897 And what's happening in two weeks? 907 00:52:30,980 --> 00:52:33,733 Printing-- I'm printing a hand gun. 908 00:52:33,817 --> 00:52:34,901 Hmm. 909 00:52:34,984 --> 00:52:36,403 Fully printed. 910 00:52:37,237 --> 00:52:38,280 [chuckles] 911 00:52:38,363 --> 00:52:39,614 You are printing it or using it? 912 00:52:39,698 --> 00:52:41,533 Huh? No, I'm gonna print it and use it. 913 00:52:41,616 --> 00:52:43,618 We've been testing different components and stuff. 914 00:52:43,702 --> 00:52:46,330 But we'll print the whole thing. We'll probably show it on YouTube, 915 00:52:46,413 --> 00:52:49,541 and then we'll immediately have it up for download. 916 00:52:57,341 --> 00:52:59,634 Testing it by hand is not ideal right now. 917 00:52:59,718 --> 00:53:02,554 But listen, if this thing blows up on me or whatever, 918 00:53:02,637 --> 00:53:05,139 you can use your Google Maps, find a hospital. 919 00:53:13,857 --> 00:53:14,858 [gun fires] 920 00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:29,748 I printed a gun the other day, man. I shot it, right? 921 00:53:29,831 --> 00:53:32,792 That was impossible until, what, yesterday? 922 00:53:32,876 --> 00:53:33,877 What can you do? 923 00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:36,338 Like, "It's gonna be... It's gonna be so super-illegal." 924 00:53:36,421 --> 00:53:39,716 Fine, but listen, you can't stop it. 925 00:53:39,799 --> 00:53:41,217 [keyboard clacking] 926 00:53:41,301 --> 00:53:43,303 You only get to release the printed pistol one time. 927 00:53:43,387 --> 00:53:45,389 So, I don't know, make a decent YouTube video. 928 00:53:48,308 --> 00:53:50,769 Yeah, I think it's been up for maybe two, three minutes now, 929 00:53:50,852 --> 00:53:52,312 and so it's got 120 views. 930 00:53:52,396 --> 00:53:55,357 Not bad, but I need to... I need to tweet it and do some other things 931 00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:57,191 to really get it going. 932 00:53:58,943 --> 00:54:02,489 I don't know, people have accused me of being media-savvy. 933 00:54:02,572 --> 00:54:03,865 That's probably true, 934 00:54:03,948 --> 00:54:07,369 but I think it's only because I get what mass culture is about... 935 00:54:07,452 --> 00:54:09,788 and so when an interviewer is coming to me, 936 00:54:09,871 --> 00:54:13,292 I have only just a few seconds, brief moments to break down, 937 00:54:13,375 --> 00:54:17,337 "All right, how can I get this person to carry my message, carry my water for me?" 938 00:54:18,630 --> 00:54:21,257 I guess that sounds really manipulative, 939 00:54:21,341 --> 00:54:24,135 but I see every one of these exposure opportunities 940 00:54:24,218 --> 00:54:25,637 as just that, a pure opportunity. 941 00:54:25,720 --> 00:54:27,847 I'm not interested in what they're after. 942 00:54:27,931 --> 00:54:30,392 I'm just interested in winning in an engagement. 943 00:54:30,475 --> 00:54:33,353 Cody, I-- [chuckling] You are a-- 944 00:54:33,437 --> 00:54:37,649 I don't know if we are friend or foe. 945 00:54:37,732 --> 00:54:41,820 The idea of printing weapons. 946 00:54:41,903 --> 00:54:42,904 And I think about 947 00:54:42,987 --> 00:54:47,283 the lack of definition of this technology in the market 948 00:54:47,367 --> 00:54:52,872 and the need for the media to feed on controversy 949 00:54:52,956 --> 00:54:55,959 and, frankly, the egotism of youth, 950 00:54:56,042 --> 00:54:59,963 and I think you look at the Venn diagram of all those three things 951 00:55:00,046 --> 00:55:02,173 and you get Cody Wilson. 952 00:55:02,256 --> 00:55:04,509 Just come up closer to me where it's-- You just kind of see. 953 00:55:04,593 --> 00:55:07,887 No, me, me. All right. 954 00:55:09,556 --> 00:55:11,725 So, it's been over 24 hours now, but basically when I woke up, 955 00:55:11,808 --> 00:55:14,936 we had done 1.3 million... a little over 1.3 million views. 956 00:55:15,019 --> 00:55:18,732 It was the first trending video at the YouTube Homepage. 957 00:55:18,815 --> 00:55:20,442 [interviewer] Yeah, when I saw those stories, I was like, 958 00:55:20,525 --> 00:55:23,319 "Really? Oh, you can build a gun with a 3D printer. Really?" 959 00:55:26,197 --> 00:55:27,907 -Pretty nuts. Yeah. -Yeah. It's... 960 00:55:29,033 --> 00:55:30,034 Yeah. 961 00:55:30,118 --> 00:55:32,245 Bre, somewhere along the line, 962 00:55:32,328 --> 00:55:35,457 got the advice that nothing good can come from it 963 00:55:35,540 --> 00:55:38,126 and so his iron rule was 964 00:55:38,209 --> 00:55:39,503 "You don't discuss it. 965 00:55:39,586 --> 00:55:43,131 You just simply don't talk about 3D printed guns. Period." 966 00:55:50,555 --> 00:55:53,016 My friends think it's awesome. 967 00:55:53,099 --> 00:55:54,643 I like my Robohand. 968 00:56:04,444 --> 00:56:08,657 [woman] When I saw Dylan's little face light up, your heart just skips a beat. 969 00:56:08,740 --> 00:56:12,702 You're so proud. You're sad. All your emotions, all at once. 970 00:56:13,578 --> 00:56:15,079 It's amazing. 971 00:56:15,163 --> 00:56:16,205 [chuckles] 972 00:56:17,999 --> 00:56:22,336 When we launched the Robohand project and launched the video, I tweeted, 973 00:56:22,421 --> 00:56:24,548 "This is why we do what we do at MakerBot." 974 00:56:24,631 --> 00:56:27,383 So that people can do projects like Robohand. 975 00:56:28,593 --> 00:56:32,764 Once the gun stuff came out, we actually pushed that up a few days. 976 00:56:32,847 --> 00:56:35,099 That was our response to the gun thing. 977 00:56:35,183 --> 00:56:37,644 And we didn't have to say, "This is our response to the gun thing." 978 00:56:37,727 --> 00:56:39,854 It was just, "Hey, look at this." 979 00:56:43,066 --> 00:56:46,570 They are making hands for kids who literally were born without hands, 980 00:56:46,653 --> 00:56:49,906 and you tell me that's a doodad and I will hit you in the face. 981 00:56:49,989 --> 00:56:53,034 The people who have MakerBots are using them to make wonderful things. 982 00:56:55,286 --> 00:56:58,832 It's been really well received. 100,000 views in the first week. 983 00:56:58,915 --> 00:57:00,667 Felt pretty good about that. 984 00:57:02,627 --> 00:57:06,506 Robohand was, in my mind, worth talking about. 985 00:57:06,590 --> 00:57:11,720 Did it get half the pick-up of any of the DEFCAD stuff? No. 986 00:57:11,803 --> 00:57:15,557 So even as good as MakerBot is at producing awesome content, 987 00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:16,933 controversy sells. 988 00:57:55,179 --> 00:57:58,141 I saw an interview with Elon Musk's wife... 989 00:57:58,224 --> 00:58:01,686 and she was like, "Oh, he's so smart. He's so wonderful. 990 00:58:01,770 --> 00:58:04,063 You can tell when you're talking to him, he's-- 991 00:58:04,147 --> 00:58:05,982 His mind, he's thinking about something else." 992 00:58:06,065 --> 00:58:08,067 And she was saying this as if it was a good thing. 993 00:58:08,151 --> 00:58:10,069 I was like, "Oh, my God, that's horrible." 994 00:58:10,153 --> 00:58:14,323 And I don't think it's a good thing, going through it, but I understand, 995 00:58:14,407 --> 00:58:15,534 but yeah. 996 00:58:25,001 --> 00:58:27,378 This is much... 997 00:58:27,461 --> 00:58:29,047 much bigger. 998 00:58:29,130 --> 00:58:30,298 This is awesome though. Really. 999 00:58:30,381 --> 00:58:34,594 Bias aside, I would definitely... 1000 00:58:34,678 --> 00:58:35,720 [chuckles] 1001 00:58:35,804 --> 00:58:37,346 ...want something from here. 1002 00:58:37,430 --> 00:58:39,974 I might buy one of those little, like, 25-cent toys. 1003 00:58:42,143 --> 00:58:46,230 Well, they're selling, as far as I know, something like... 1004 00:58:46,314 --> 00:58:48,441 somewhere over 2,000 a month right now. 1005 00:58:48,525 --> 00:58:50,276 Which is a lot. 1006 00:59:05,124 --> 00:59:06,835 [Lobovsky] Thank you all for coming. 1007 00:59:06,918 --> 00:59:12,340 This is freakin' awesome, and I love this awesome mix of people that we have here. 1008 00:59:12,423 --> 00:59:17,428 We have friends and family and investors and lawyers and, uh... 1009 00:59:17,511 --> 00:59:19,263 [crowd laughing] 1010 00:59:19,347 --> 00:59:21,015 [Ferguson] Uh, we had a party. 1011 00:59:21,099 --> 00:59:25,436 Max sort of gave this, you know, an awkward Max speech... 1012 00:59:25,519 --> 00:59:27,021 and it was fine and everything, 1013 00:59:27,105 --> 00:59:31,359 but then David came up and gave this amazing, rousing speech. 1014 00:59:31,442 --> 00:59:35,113 Big guys in the industry are crying tears of blood 1015 00:59:35,196 --> 00:59:37,073 'cause they can feel that their grip 1016 00:59:37,156 --> 00:59:39,576 on this technology that's been around for a very long time 1017 00:59:39,659 --> 00:59:41,327 is beginning to slip, 1018 00:59:41,410 --> 00:59:43,872 and Formlabs is leading at the forefront 1019 00:59:43,955 --> 00:59:46,457 of busting it open to empower everybody 1020 00:59:46,540 --> 00:59:49,961 to be able to get what's in their brain onto the table in front of them, 1021 00:59:50,044 --> 00:59:53,089 -and it's kind of amazing. -[guests cheering] 1022 00:59:55,341 --> 00:59:56,676 [Cranor] It kind of became clear 1023 00:59:56,760 --> 01:00:00,764 that Max and I had very different ways of doing things... 1024 01:00:00,847 --> 01:00:03,349 that were probably gonna become a problem 1025 01:00:03,432 --> 01:00:08,104 when the company "hopefully" became successful and legit, 1026 01:00:08,187 --> 01:00:10,148 as we're growing and we're getting more people. 1027 01:00:10,231 --> 01:00:12,316 [Ferguson] I knew that there was always issues behind the scene. 1028 01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:13,610 They would do things like... 1029 01:00:13,693 --> 01:00:15,194 They would be Skype chatting each other, 1030 01:00:15,278 --> 01:00:16,696 obviously across the office. 1031 01:00:16,780 --> 01:00:18,907 Then suddenly they would both jump up out of their seats 1032 01:00:18,990 --> 01:00:20,784 and walk into the other room. 1033 01:00:27,999 --> 01:00:30,084 The company was us for so long. 1034 01:00:30,168 --> 01:00:31,753 We were the company. 1035 01:00:31,836 --> 01:00:34,380 And the company is growing into this sort of monstrosity 1036 01:00:34,463 --> 01:00:36,633 that's bigger than all of us. 1037 01:00:38,134 --> 01:00:41,262 Sometimes, there are situations in life that calls for... 1038 01:00:44,348 --> 01:00:46,643 very hard action to very close people. 1039 01:00:46,726 --> 01:00:49,062 We've really gotten this company going off the ground 1040 01:00:49,145 --> 01:00:50,897 ever since we built that original prototype 1041 01:00:50,980 --> 01:00:54,275 in the basement of 14 Lopez Street together. 1042 01:00:54,358 --> 01:00:55,359 But we've been talking, 1043 01:00:55,443 --> 01:00:59,781 and I've decided it's time for me to go on and do something else. 1044 01:00:59,864 --> 01:01:04,035 So, I won't be around after this, only in spirit. 1045 01:01:05,453 --> 01:01:07,664 [Cranor] I announced my departure from the company 1046 01:01:07,747 --> 01:01:10,374 and I think people were... 1047 01:01:10,458 --> 01:01:15,004 I don't know, I guess just cut it after the thing. 1048 01:01:15,088 --> 01:01:16,422 But, yeah, it's... 1049 01:01:20,009 --> 01:01:21,094 Yeah. 1050 01:01:22,721 --> 01:01:24,305 [Ferguson] So, it's kind of weird how it all went down 1051 01:01:24,388 --> 01:01:25,431 'cause it was very quiet. 1052 01:01:25,514 --> 01:01:26,725 David was sort of pushed out of the company 1053 01:01:26,808 --> 01:01:29,352 and they were all under agreement to not talk about it. 1054 01:01:29,435 --> 01:01:32,396 So it's very hard to express this to anybody. 1055 01:01:37,736 --> 01:01:40,196 [Cranor] The Form 1 is like my baby. 1056 01:01:40,279 --> 01:01:42,656 Now, whenever I see pictures of it on the Internet and stuff, 1057 01:01:42,741 --> 01:01:43,783 it is kind of weird 1058 01:01:43,867 --> 01:01:45,659 because it's like seeing a picture of your child 1059 01:01:45,744 --> 01:01:48,662 with other people's arms around it. 1060 01:01:48,747 --> 01:01:52,583 We needed to have the right people building this company... 1061 01:01:52,666 --> 01:01:58,506 and we felt he wasn't the right person to have there, 1062 01:01:58,589 --> 01:02:01,175 and we couldn't work that out 1063 01:02:01,259 --> 01:02:05,764 and so we had to split, and, um... 1064 01:02:08,182 --> 01:02:09,350 [mumbling] 1065 01:02:10,810 --> 01:02:13,354 As far as what David did at the company, 1066 01:02:13,437 --> 01:02:15,815 this sort of marketing direction, 1067 01:02:15,899 --> 01:02:17,358 he's like a real performer, 1068 01:02:17,441 --> 01:02:20,694 like in a way that Max definitely doesn't have in him. 1069 01:02:20,779 --> 01:02:22,488 And I'm like, "Why did we get rid of this 1070 01:02:22,571 --> 01:02:25,574 when this is something that we are so obviously lacking in the company?" 1071 01:02:29,078 --> 01:02:31,414 You never would've known anything was going on for Max 1072 01:02:31,497 --> 01:02:32,498 the whole time. 1073 01:02:32,581 --> 01:02:35,084 He's got his-- This is just what-- It's part of the game. 1074 01:02:35,168 --> 01:02:37,045 It's just moving... move through. 1075 01:02:37,128 --> 01:02:39,756 This is, for him, just one speed bump 1076 01:02:39,839 --> 01:02:43,968 on his path to conquering the 3D printing world. 1077 01:02:48,932 --> 01:02:50,391 [clanking] 1078 01:02:58,566 --> 01:03:02,695 MakerBot folks, I think you can all step forward five or 10 steps. 1079 01:03:02,779 --> 01:03:04,030 Let's pack this thing in. 1080 01:03:04,781 --> 01:03:06,032 [all clamoring] 1081 01:03:07,325 --> 01:03:11,913 Bre said he wanted to make something to make other things, 1082 01:03:11,996 --> 01:03:13,790 and that is a visionary. 1083 01:03:13,873 --> 01:03:17,961 That's the difference between those that see what we don't, 1084 01:03:18,044 --> 01:03:20,629 -and that is have a vision of the future. -[crowd applauding] 1085 01:03:20,713 --> 01:03:25,759 And our future in America and in New York and especially in Brooklyn 1086 01:03:25,844 --> 01:03:32,558 depends upon you being one step ahead, if not two steps ahead of everyone else, 1087 01:03:32,641 --> 01:03:37,355 being smarter, working harder, in order to achieve 1088 01:03:37,438 --> 01:03:40,817 what I know will be a great new industry for this city and this nation, 1089 01:03:40,900 --> 01:03:43,027 and that's what this is all about. 1090 01:03:43,111 --> 01:03:46,280 So, all I can say is, "Jobs, jobs, jobs, money, money, money, 1091 01:03:46,364 --> 01:03:48,908 taxes, taxes, taxes, growth, growth, growth." 1092 01:03:48,992 --> 01:03:51,660 The future is right here. 1093 01:03:51,744 --> 01:03:53,204 [audience applauding] 1094 01:03:55,748 --> 01:03:59,793 The people who run successful, small technology companies... 1095 01:04:01,045 --> 01:04:02,505 pretty much have to be crazy, 1096 01:04:02,588 --> 01:04:05,008 and they're all crazy in their own ways. 1097 01:04:05,091 --> 01:04:07,051 Bre is certainly crazy in his way. 1098 01:04:07,135 --> 01:04:09,929 He had some very visionary ideas, 1099 01:04:10,013 --> 01:04:16,602 and he had a touch with the press that's arguably one of the best I've ever seen. 1100 01:04:18,687 --> 01:04:23,234 The market will tell part of your story for you... 1101 01:04:23,317 --> 01:04:28,697 unless you aggressively go out there and tell your story on behalf of yourself. 1102 01:04:29,949 --> 01:04:36,289 But all the covers of the magazine focus on you, on MakerBot. 1103 01:04:36,372 --> 01:04:39,417 You became a star, right? 1104 01:04:39,500 --> 01:04:41,585 Yeah, I mean, I... 1105 01:04:45,381 --> 01:04:46,424 Uh... 1106 01:04:46,507 --> 01:04:47,675 Okay. 1107 01:05:02,523 --> 01:05:04,984 [Curry] As the people around him shifted... 1108 01:05:05,068 --> 01:05:08,237 the person he was becoming shifted as well. 1109 01:05:08,321 --> 01:05:11,824 So as he stopped spending time around the open source community, 1110 01:05:11,908 --> 01:05:13,451 around the engineers, 1111 01:05:13,534 --> 01:05:15,619 and started spending more time around the people 1112 01:05:15,703 --> 01:05:18,915 who were looking to get the highest value for their dollar, 1113 01:05:18,998 --> 01:05:23,669 the person he was started to slowly shift towards them. 1114 01:05:29,050 --> 01:05:30,551 [inaudible] 1115 01:05:33,887 --> 01:05:35,098 [applause] 1116 01:05:36,765 --> 01:05:38,977 It's like he has burrowed down into whatever that character is. 1117 01:05:39,060 --> 01:05:40,061 I don't know where he is anymore. 1118 01:05:40,144 --> 01:05:41,854 I don't know who he ever was. I really don't. 1119 01:05:41,938 --> 01:05:43,689 For me, he's just a figure. He's like Willy Wonka. 1120 01:05:43,772 --> 01:05:44,773 I mean, whatever. 1121 01:05:44,857 --> 01:05:47,110 But you can tell he must be under extreme pressure and duress. 1122 01:05:47,193 --> 01:05:49,112 What a strange character to try to be in all the time. 1123 01:05:49,195 --> 01:05:50,904 He's somewhere in there, right? 1124 01:05:52,115 --> 01:05:53,616 [cheering] 1125 01:06:17,931 --> 01:06:19,058 I have a question. 1126 01:06:19,142 --> 01:06:20,143 Yeah, ask away. 1127 01:06:20,226 --> 01:06:22,520 This is the Form 1, Formlabs, right? 1128 01:06:22,603 --> 01:06:23,771 We are Formlabs. This is the Form 1. 1129 01:06:23,854 --> 01:06:26,524 [man] We ordered a printer from Form 1, 1130 01:06:26,607 --> 01:06:28,442 but we still haven't received. 1131 01:06:28,526 --> 01:06:31,362 That is true. [chuckling] 1132 01:06:31,445 --> 01:06:32,905 We'll be shipping relatively soon. 1133 01:06:32,989 --> 01:06:36,700 We're in the last stages of tweaking and finalizing our manufacturing process. 1134 01:06:36,784 --> 01:06:39,037 Sorry, what was... 1135 01:06:39,120 --> 01:06:40,746 Yeah, so, you might've caught it in our update. 1136 01:06:40,829 --> 01:06:43,666 We did run into some production problems with the printers. 1137 01:06:54,177 --> 01:06:56,054 [Lobovsky] There's definitely tons of comments 1138 01:06:56,137 --> 01:06:57,680 on the web that are being like, 1139 01:06:57,763 --> 01:06:59,307 "Why did you deceive us? You didn't tell us... 1140 01:06:59,390 --> 01:07:03,477 that this might happen," or something like that. 1141 01:07:03,561 --> 01:07:07,148 I've seen some pretty mean things said about us on the Internet. 1142 01:07:08,566 --> 01:07:11,194 Some ad hominems against Max. 1143 01:07:11,277 --> 01:07:12,570 "Instead of working on printers, 1144 01:07:12,653 --> 01:07:16,615 you see Max Lobovsky's mug showing up at all these shows, 1145 01:07:16,699 --> 01:07:19,743 re-explaining SLA technology over and over again 1146 01:07:19,827 --> 01:07:22,455 instead of actually fulfilling his backers' investments." 1147 01:07:25,249 --> 01:07:27,918 [interviewer] Excited? Yeah? [Lobovsky] Yeah, I'm good. 1148 01:07:28,001 --> 01:07:31,547 -Tired? You look tired. -I often do. 1149 01:07:31,630 --> 01:07:33,216 It's been busy? 1150 01:07:33,299 --> 01:07:36,802 -What's the time frame...on that? -On what? 1151 01:07:36,885 --> 01:07:39,680 -On the printer. -For shipping? 1152 01:07:39,763 --> 01:07:42,558 -Soon. -Fair enough. 1153 01:07:45,103 --> 01:07:46,562 [Linder] Max had this panel. 1154 01:07:46,645 --> 01:07:49,190 As I walk into the building, I spot Avi. 1155 01:07:49,273 --> 01:07:52,818 And then it's like... 1156 01:07:52,901 --> 01:07:55,654 you see each other, right? And you see... 1157 01:07:55,738 --> 01:07:56,947 You spot each other, 1158 01:07:57,030 --> 01:08:00,076 and so, I text Max, "Avi's in the building." 1159 01:08:02,203 --> 01:08:05,581 We've tried to move to dismiss the case, and we've made some legal arguments... 1160 01:08:05,664 --> 01:08:08,876 about how it wasn't properly brought in the first place. 1161 01:08:08,959 --> 01:08:11,295 But the case is in its really very early stages, 1162 01:08:11,379 --> 01:08:13,714 and it's likely to go on for quite a while 1163 01:08:13,797 --> 01:08:16,259 if it continues at that pace. 1164 01:08:16,342 --> 01:08:18,136 People who follow 3D Systems will tell you, 1165 01:08:18,219 --> 01:08:20,679 those guys, that's how they do business. 1166 01:08:20,763 --> 01:08:23,516 They sue people all over the place. All the time. 1167 01:08:23,599 --> 01:08:24,933 [indistinct talking] 1168 01:08:25,017 --> 01:08:26,185 [applause] 1169 01:08:27,603 --> 01:08:29,021 I'm really excited. 1170 01:08:29,105 --> 01:08:32,065 This is certainly one of the ones that I've been looking forward to. 1171 01:08:33,109 --> 01:08:34,152 [chuckles] 1172 01:08:34,235 --> 01:08:35,819 You guys are all well acquainted with each other, right? 1173 01:08:42,160 --> 01:08:43,661 [indistinct] 1174 01:08:47,248 --> 01:08:50,626 Most companies, mostly the reshaped organizations, 1175 01:08:50,709 --> 01:08:52,795 are pre-wired to... 1176 01:08:52,878 --> 01:08:55,839 above all, defend and protect their IP. 1177 01:08:55,923 --> 01:09:00,553 That's what got you here. That's the DNA of most companies. 1178 01:09:00,636 --> 01:09:03,556 Uh, the new thinking is, "Maybe there is a better way." 1179 01:09:05,599 --> 01:09:08,352 "What kind of government restrictions on 3D printing do you envision, 1180 01:09:08,436 --> 01:09:10,854 such as protection of IP?" 1181 01:09:10,938 --> 01:09:15,693 I think that patent law is antiquated. Copyright law is antiquated. 1182 01:09:15,776 --> 01:09:19,947 And it causes companies to act in a very schizophrenic way. 1183 01:09:20,030 --> 01:09:23,326 We ourselves are in the midst of struggling 1184 01:09:23,409 --> 01:09:25,453 and trying figure out what does it all mean 1185 01:09:25,536 --> 01:09:28,747 because some of what we need to do is not congruent with our vision. 1186 01:09:30,499 --> 01:09:35,213 The way that we have been thinking about our IP strategy 1187 01:09:35,296 --> 01:09:38,632 is no longer relevant, 1188 01:09:38,716 --> 01:09:40,968 so it's time to change. 1189 01:09:41,051 --> 01:09:42,886 [crowd applauding] 1190 01:09:48,184 --> 01:09:52,062 So maybe we should sit down together and talk 1191 01:09:52,145 --> 01:09:55,858 and see what's going on, 1192 01:09:55,941 --> 01:09:57,443 and that's how that discussion started. 1193 01:09:57,526 --> 01:10:00,153 [interviewer] Where you headed off to? 1194 01:10:00,238 --> 01:10:03,741 [Lobovsky] We've got an off camera meeting now. 1195 01:10:05,326 --> 01:10:06,869 Lawsuit's still going, 1196 01:10:06,952 --> 01:10:10,080 but it's on hold right now while we're talking to 3D Systems 1197 01:10:10,163 --> 01:10:12,750 and that's public record right now, 1198 01:10:12,833 --> 01:10:14,960 and I can't say much about what's going on. 1199 01:10:15,043 --> 01:10:16,212 [indistinct talking] 1200 01:10:17,546 --> 01:10:18,547 Okay. 1201 01:10:18,631 --> 01:10:19,757 -Ready? -Yeah. 1202 01:10:19,840 --> 01:10:20,924 Let's go. 1203 01:10:37,400 --> 01:10:41,279 So this countdown clock is counting down to CES... 1204 01:10:42,446 --> 01:10:45,366 where something might happen, 1205 01:10:45,449 --> 01:10:50,621 and the pressure's on here to get everything ready for that. 1206 01:10:50,704 --> 01:10:52,748 Ethernet, it's a showstopper. Ethernet needs to be... 1207 01:10:52,831 --> 01:10:54,333 This needs to be on the outside. 1208 01:10:54,417 --> 01:10:55,668 [woman] 'Cause right now... 1209 01:10:55,751 --> 01:10:58,629 Oh, yeah. When it came up, everyone got really pissed. 1210 01:10:58,712 --> 01:10:59,713 [interviewer] Really? 1211 01:10:59,797 --> 01:11:01,882 No one needs that hanging over their office. 1212 01:11:01,965 --> 01:11:06,804 No one needs the glowing red clock counting down, every day, to your doom. 1213 01:11:06,887 --> 01:11:08,889 But we have it. Thanks, guys. 1214 01:11:10,558 --> 01:11:15,354 Bre read the Steve Jobs biography like everybody did. 1215 01:11:15,438 --> 01:11:18,482 And I think that book really did a disservice 1216 01:11:18,566 --> 01:11:20,192 to a lot of people in the technology business. 1217 01:11:20,276 --> 01:11:23,487 'Cause it gave a lot of people permission to be assholes... 1218 01:11:23,571 --> 01:11:24,988 because Steve was. 1219 01:11:30,953 --> 01:11:33,205 [Pettis] I think if you look at Steve Jobs, 1220 01:11:33,289 --> 01:11:38,043 he was somebody who was pretty messed up, just like all of us. 1221 01:11:38,126 --> 01:11:41,547 He was somebody who was driven, like some of us, 1222 01:11:41,630 --> 01:11:43,466 and he was somebody willing to 1223 01:11:43,549 --> 01:11:45,926 put everything on the line to make things work. 1224 01:11:48,346 --> 01:11:49,972 [Osborn] I found there's two things that can happen 1225 01:11:50,055 --> 01:11:52,182 when you're put in a power over employees. 1226 01:11:52,265 --> 01:11:53,892 You can either say, 1227 01:11:53,976 --> 01:11:57,938 "This is a chance to put into practice all the things I know are right 1228 01:11:58,021 --> 01:12:01,942 and to treat people the way I always wished I'd been treated." 1229 01:12:02,025 --> 01:12:05,195 Or... payback. 1230 01:12:05,278 --> 01:12:09,533 For everybody who ever made me bend over and pick up that piece of paper 1231 01:12:09,617 --> 01:12:11,118 or any other thing. 1232 01:12:11,201 --> 01:12:15,373 So, you take a guy like Bre, when he finally did get power... 1233 01:12:15,456 --> 01:12:17,249 he completely went the other way. 1234 01:12:17,333 --> 01:12:21,294 Capricious decisions, cruelty, 1235 01:12:21,379 --> 01:12:24,757 not listening to anyone else. 1236 01:12:24,840 --> 01:12:26,634 Feeling like he could get rid of anybody 1237 01:12:26,717 --> 01:12:30,012 who might have any input that would be contrary to something he wanted. 1238 01:12:32,848 --> 01:12:34,683 [Griffin] It's weird to me that... 1239 01:12:36,226 --> 01:12:38,812 there are parts of my story there 1240 01:12:38,896 --> 01:12:43,191 and parts of the story of MakerBot that you just can't talk about. 1241 01:12:43,275 --> 01:12:46,612 There are all these strange barriers. 1242 01:12:46,695 --> 01:12:47,696 There are legal ones. 1243 01:12:47,780 --> 01:12:50,574 There are ones that relate to 1244 01:12:50,658 --> 01:12:53,118 trying to protect people that you don't want to get in trouble 1245 01:12:53,201 --> 01:12:57,873 because they are instantly fired if they talk about certain things. 1246 01:12:57,956 --> 01:12:59,332 [indistinct talking] 1247 01:13:00,751 --> 01:13:03,796 [Osborn] Matt and Keith, who were two of the marketing guys, 1248 01:13:03,879 --> 01:13:06,089 he just flat out up and canned 'em. 1249 01:13:06,173 --> 01:13:08,008 It was kind of chilling. 1250 01:13:09,217 --> 01:13:14,557 We welcome the people who "graduate" from MakerBot, 1251 01:13:14,640 --> 01:13:18,727 and they are traumatized, deeply traumatized and upset... 1252 01:13:18,811 --> 01:13:23,482 and maybe they don't even know what triggered the end for them... 1253 01:13:23,566 --> 01:13:25,150 or maybe they did something 1254 01:13:25,233 --> 01:13:29,029 that would've been encouraged and blogged about... 1255 01:13:29,112 --> 01:13:33,366 and celebrated in the early days, has become a fire-able offense. 1256 01:13:33,451 --> 01:13:34,827 [indistinct talking] 1257 01:13:44,086 --> 01:13:48,466 I had nine bosses fired out from above me. 1258 01:13:48,549 --> 01:13:52,928 I was continuously in a state of getting to know 1259 01:13:53,011 --> 01:13:57,015 someone new whose whims I had to kind of predict. 1260 01:14:04,064 --> 01:14:07,901 I just think that Adam didn't like where things were going 1261 01:14:07,985 --> 01:14:12,615 and I think pushing me out really left a bad taste in his mouth... 1262 01:14:12,698 --> 01:14:15,408 so my guess is that's why he ended up leaving. 1263 01:14:16,910 --> 01:14:19,204 A lot of this stuff is driven by emotions, right? 1264 01:14:19,287 --> 01:14:23,626 And whether that emotion is greed or that emotion is fear 1265 01:14:23,709 --> 01:14:30,508 or even out of a sense of trying to protect what you perceive is yours... 1266 01:14:32,468 --> 01:14:37,097 They needed a full-time person being there two weeks out of the month. 1267 01:14:37,180 --> 01:14:40,934 Didn't pull it, didn't make it there, and it was too hard on our relationship, 1268 01:14:41,018 --> 01:14:45,147 so... now I'm just happy to help whatever... however I can. 1269 01:14:50,360 --> 01:14:53,071 [Feld] I've been involved in a ridiculous number of companies. 1270 01:14:53,155 --> 01:14:55,448 There's always conflict. 1271 01:14:55,533 --> 01:14:59,495 The fantasy that there's never conflict is just fantasy. 1272 01:14:59,578 --> 01:15:02,665 As long as you're the CEO, you get to make the final call. 1273 01:15:02,748 --> 01:15:05,668 Not everybody is gonna make the rocket ship 1274 01:15:05,751 --> 01:15:07,252 ride all the way to the end 1275 01:15:07,335 --> 01:15:10,589 or not everybody's gonna make it to the top of the mountain. 1276 01:15:10,673 --> 01:15:12,883 As the CEO, you have to make those tough decisions, 1277 01:15:12,966 --> 01:15:15,260 and when I started making those decisions, 1278 01:15:15,343 --> 01:15:18,471 that's when it's like, "Okay, now this isn't just a game. 1279 01:15:18,556 --> 01:15:20,724 This isn't just a project. This is a company. 1280 01:15:20,808 --> 01:15:23,185 We're growing. We're going big." 1281 01:15:27,815 --> 01:15:29,567 [Osborn] Watching people get power... 1282 01:15:30,317 --> 01:15:32,027 is some scary shit. 1283 01:15:32,110 --> 01:15:33,403 It's almost like it makes... What is it? 1284 01:15:33,486 --> 01:15:37,407 Power corrupts, you could say, and absolute power... 1285 01:15:37,490 --> 01:15:38,784 It's almost like you could make a... 1286 01:15:40,536 --> 01:15:41,870 Corrupts... 1287 01:15:43,330 --> 01:15:44,414 Really. 1288 01:15:56,719 --> 01:15:57,970 [Wilson] Every king is a despot. 1289 01:15:58,053 --> 01:16:01,514 Every sovereignty, every asserted power, every superstructure, 1290 01:16:01,599 --> 01:16:04,727 political structure ever was built on a fundamental crime, 1291 01:16:04,810 --> 01:16:05,978 and for us to say, like, 1292 01:16:06,061 --> 01:16:07,771 "Well, we all came together at some point in the past 1293 01:16:07,855 --> 01:16:09,898 and we all consented and agreed and this is the way it is." 1294 01:16:09,982 --> 01:16:12,359 No, everything's built on 1295 01:16:12,442 --> 01:16:16,279 these unjustifiable acts and usurpations of power, 1296 01:16:16,363 --> 01:16:18,949 and we intentionally obscure that to ourselves 1297 01:16:19,032 --> 01:16:21,409 to pretend that, "Well, it's a system and we're all participating." 1298 01:16:21,493 --> 01:16:23,871 No. You're-- [chuckles] That's a slave morality. 1299 01:16:23,954 --> 01:16:27,958 You're just trying to justify why you live in an unjust world. 1300 01:16:34,965 --> 01:16:37,050 May 8th, the State Department issues me a letter, 1301 01:16:37,134 --> 01:16:42,305 and it says, "Look, you might have violated Arms Export Control law." 1302 01:16:44,057 --> 01:16:46,602 This is a huge issue in the end. It's a huge First Amendment issue. 1303 01:16:46,685 --> 01:16:50,438 Does a police division of the State Department... 1304 01:16:50,522 --> 01:16:51,523 have the right to tell you 1305 01:16:51,607 --> 01:16:54,860 what data you can not only generate but share with other people? 1306 01:16:59,114 --> 01:17:00,824 Finally, we upgraded with villains. 1307 01:17:00,908 --> 01:17:03,786 We have almost a worthy nemesis, right? A United States Senator. 1308 01:17:03,869 --> 01:17:04,953 Ooh. Ooh. 1309 01:17:05,037 --> 01:17:06,747 Part of the boys' club. Okay, yeah. 1310 01:17:06,830 --> 01:17:09,374 "This guy has status, power. Oh, he's gonna save us. 1311 01:17:09,457 --> 01:17:10,626 "He's gonna save us from the evil anarchists 1312 01:17:10,709 --> 01:17:12,252 with their scary printed guns." 1313 01:17:12,335 --> 01:17:16,715 Really? Yeah? Okay... um, let's have that fight. Let's do that. 1314 01:17:16,799 --> 01:17:21,344 A felon, a terrorist can make a gun in the comfort of their home... 1315 01:17:21,428 --> 01:17:25,683 not even leaving their home, and do terrible damage with it, 1316 01:17:25,766 --> 01:17:28,727 and so the question is what we do about it. 1317 01:17:35,067 --> 01:17:36,694 [Wilson] They go like, "What were you trying to achieve?" 1318 01:17:36,777 --> 01:17:39,237 I was like, "Look, no, I can show you that we achieved." 1319 01:17:39,321 --> 01:17:41,865 It's this cultural propaganda kind of victory. 1320 01:17:41,949 --> 01:17:43,742 I ask you in 2012, 1321 01:17:43,826 --> 01:17:44,952 "Have you heard of 3D printing?" You say, "No." 1322 01:17:45,035 --> 01:17:46,536 I ask you in 2013, "Have you heard of 3D printing?" 1323 01:17:46,619 --> 01:17:48,538 You go, "Yeah!" And then you say, 1324 01:17:48,621 --> 01:17:49,832 "I heard you could 3D print a gun." 1325 01:17:49,915 --> 01:17:51,834 [laughing] Right? 1326 01:17:51,917 --> 01:17:54,294 That was a political victory, all right? 1327 01:17:54,377 --> 01:17:56,088 Not only do you know you have access to the means of production, 1328 01:17:56,171 --> 01:17:58,924 you know you can make a gun on that thing, and it's not like you would, right? 1329 01:17:59,007 --> 01:18:02,678 But this is against an overwhelming cultural force, 1330 01:18:02,761 --> 01:18:06,014 trying to prevent that from happening, prevent you from knowing about it, 1331 01:18:06,098 --> 01:18:07,599 prevent you from enacting it, right? 1332 01:18:07,683 --> 01:18:10,477 But you know you can do it. That's something. 1333 01:18:17,525 --> 01:18:18,526 [lively music playing] 1334 01:18:19,737 --> 01:18:22,239 -This music's amazing. -Yeah. 1335 01:18:23,448 --> 01:18:24,700 [woman] What are you celebrating? 1336 01:18:24,783 --> 01:18:26,034 [Ferguson] Uh, we're shipping a product. 1337 01:18:26,118 --> 01:18:27,786 -Oh! -3D printer. 1338 01:18:27,870 --> 01:18:30,288 All right! That's great. 1339 01:18:30,372 --> 01:18:32,791 -You're all set, ready to go. -Thank you very much. 1340 01:18:32,875 --> 01:18:34,960 Yeah, we know we've been gearing up to ship. 1341 01:18:35,043 --> 01:18:37,337 We had laser issues... 1342 01:18:37,420 --> 01:18:39,923 in that we found out all of our lasers were bad. 1343 01:18:41,549 --> 01:18:44,594 But we solved it and we're finally shipping now... 1344 01:18:44,677 --> 01:18:46,596 or we will be later today. 1345 01:18:46,679 --> 01:18:49,516 I sure hope nothing stops us. 1346 01:18:49,599 --> 01:18:53,436 It'd be embarrassing if we have to do this again. 1347 01:19:02,612 --> 01:19:04,406 This was just sort of a last-minute idea. 1348 01:19:04,489 --> 01:19:06,283 It was like, "Well, if we're gonna be shipping tomorrow, 1349 01:19:06,366 --> 01:19:09,912 we're gonna be giving them T-shirts, we should probably also have a cake, 1350 01:19:09,995 --> 01:19:13,415 and it should have written on the top of it, "Oh, ship." 1351 01:19:13,498 --> 01:19:15,751 And also, Craig really likes cake. 1352 01:19:15,834 --> 01:19:18,545 I'm pretty excited about this cake. 1353 01:19:35,395 --> 01:19:38,606 I'm taking a picture of the first three units that are packed up. 1354 01:19:56,208 --> 01:19:59,044 The Formlabs, they were on Kickstarter. 1355 01:19:59,127 --> 01:20:02,047 There is some sort of threatened litigation of some sort. 1356 01:20:02,130 --> 01:20:04,382 There was a delay in delivering the device, 1357 01:20:04,466 --> 01:20:08,636 and all those things just end up serving the buzz 1358 01:20:08,720 --> 01:20:10,806 for when the product finally does arrive. 1359 01:20:10,889 --> 01:20:14,017 Depending on how well the next couple months go 1360 01:20:14,101 --> 01:20:15,643 and how well those first reviews go, 1361 01:20:15,727 --> 01:20:18,939 that's going to really make or break 1362 01:20:19,022 --> 01:20:21,817 the next phase of our company and the product 1363 01:20:21,900 --> 01:20:23,776 and whether people really want it or not. 1364 01:20:35,372 --> 01:20:38,917 It's amazing, though, when you look at actually how finished this is, 1365 01:20:39,001 --> 01:20:40,210 'cause what you're talking about 1366 01:20:40,293 --> 01:20:42,129 is really something that starts looking like... 1367 01:20:42,212 --> 01:20:45,090 what would come out of a much more expensive machine. 1368 01:20:45,173 --> 01:20:46,383 [Calore] Yeah. 1369 01:20:46,466 --> 01:20:48,551 The resolution... And that's the highest resolution. 1370 01:20:48,635 --> 01:20:49,928 The quality is outstanding. 1371 01:20:50,012 --> 01:20:51,847 Yeah, you really couldn't get something like this 1372 01:20:51,930 --> 01:20:54,141 out of a MakerBot or something like that. 1373 01:21:00,647 --> 01:21:02,190 Got the Form 1. 1374 01:21:02,274 --> 01:21:04,651 Yeah, I made something... 1375 01:21:04,734 --> 01:21:08,196 and it promptly broke trying to get it off the build plate. 1376 01:21:08,280 --> 01:21:10,615 I think that... It's not for me. 1377 01:21:16,746 --> 01:21:18,874 [Lobovsky] Did you guys see this? 1378 01:21:18,957 --> 01:21:21,877 "Form 1: Excellent with room to kvetch!" 1379 01:21:21,960 --> 01:21:24,129 Oh! Yeah! Nice! 1380 01:21:24,212 --> 01:21:27,757 -Is this Wired from yesterday? -Yes. 1381 01:21:37,976 --> 01:21:40,979 Cases like Formlabs 1382 01:21:41,063 --> 01:21:44,942 caused me to reflect a great deal 1383 01:21:45,025 --> 01:21:49,737 about the actions that companies like us have to take. 1384 01:21:49,821 --> 01:21:55,118 We decided that the current intellectual property management is dated, 1385 01:21:55,202 --> 01:22:01,624 and so we're going to open parts of our IP to a group of inventors 1386 01:22:01,708 --> 01:22:06,588 and start-ups and entrepreneurs that want to co-invent with us. 1387 01:22:06,671 --> 01:22:11,426 It doesn't automatically retroactively resolve 1388 01:22:11,509 --> 01:22:14,972 conflicts that have to take their own course within the legal system, 1389 01:22:15,055 --> 01:22:19,142 but it provides the learning for how to do it differently going forward. 1390 01:22:19,226 --> 01:22:20,893 [tapping lightly] 1391 01:22:20,978 --> 01:22:23,146 Pretty durable. 1392 01:22:23,230 --> 01:22:27,609 In that regard, I'm grateful to Formlabs because had it not happened, 1393 01:22:27,692 --> 01:22:33,115 I'm not sure that I would have gotten to my conclusions as fast as I did. 1394 01:22:39,246 --> 01:22:41,081 [Curry] All right. [Pelkey] Where are we? 1395 01:22:49,047 --> 01:22:51,091 All companies go through this. 1396 01:22:51,174 --> 01:22:54,386 It's not weird that we are going through growth. 1397 01:22:54,469 --> 01:22:56,888 It's just when it's happening to you, 1398 01:22:56,972 --> 01:22:59,724 you experience it as if it's only ever happened to you. 1399 01:22:59,807 --> 01:23:00,850 So, we're all kind of-- 1400 01:23:00,933 --> 01:23:03,311 -It's more traumatic. -Yeah. 1401 01:23:07,065 --> 01:23:08,900 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to MakerBot. 1402 01:23:08,984 --> 01:23:12,112 It's an exciting new day here at MakerBot, 1403 01:23:12,195 --> 01:23:16,241 and we're really happy that you could come on such short notice. 1404 01:23:17,575 --> 01:23:22,789 The announcement was a little strange. It was like a... a very quiet excitement. 1405 01:23:22,872 --> 01:23:25,375 [Curry] It was a lot of anxiety in the office 1406 01:23:25,458 --> 01:23:27,210 because nobody knew what was gonna happen. 1407 01:23:27,294 --> 01:23:30,338 We just had this mysterious meeting scheduled at 4:30, 1408 01:23:30,422 --> 01:23:31,756 and with some of the things in our past, 1409 01:23:31,839 --> 01:23:34,884 there was odds on whether or not we were all gonna be fired. 1410 01:23:35,802 --> 01:23:39,639 And the announcement that I get to make is that MakerBot, 1411 01:23:39,722 --> 01:23:42,392 we're merging with Stratasys and becoming a public company. 1412 01:23:42,475 --> 01:23:44,186 This is huge. 1413 01:23:44,269 --> 01:23:47,147 This is a dream come true for an entrepreneur. 1414 01:23:47,230 --> 01:23:48,481 [all applauding] 1415 01:23:52,402 --> 01:23:55,655 The story of the merger is growth. 1416 01:23:55,738 --> 01:23:57,324 Growth, growth, growth. 1417 01:23:57,407 --> 01:24:02,204 So, this combination creates, or will create after closing, 1418 01:24:02,287 --> 01:24:05,290 the number one company in our industry with the broadest offering, 1419 01:24:05,373 --> 01:24:07,917 with the most exciting products. 1420 01:24:10,670 --> 01:24:12,839 MakerBot's my baby, 1421 01:24:12,922 --> 01:24:18,220 and I get to now share this baby with a bunch of other-- 1422 01:24:18,303 --> 01:24:20,055 I don't know. Maybe there's not a good metaphor here, 1423 01:24:20,138 --> 01:24:25,727 but a bunch of babies are getting together for a party now with this merger. 1424 01:24:25,810 --> 01:24:30,107 I'm not sure if that really make sense but... yeah, there's a baby party. 1425 01:24:37,780 --> 01:24:39,949 We had an amazing year. 1426 01:24:40,032 --> 01:24:41,784 You cannot look at how we performed this year 1427 01:24:41,868 --> 01:24:45,037 and say anything other than, "That's fucking incredible." 1428 01:24:45,122 --> 01:24:48,125 I mean, it's just... No one can say anything but that. 1429 01:24:52,254 --> 01:24:55,757 If you wanna have a company that thrives, that survives, 1430 01:24:55,840 --> 01:24:58,968 then you have to play the game of the big kids. 1431 01:24:59,051 --> 01:25:00,803 You have to play the big company game. 1432 01:25:04,557 --> 01:25:07,435 So the fact that he sold out the place for $600 million, 1433 01:25:07,519 --> 01:25:11,398 it means he will forever be a guy who succeeded tremendously. 1434 01:25:11,481 --> 01:25:15,860 The ends can't always justify the means. They just can't. 1435 01:25:15,943 --> 01:25:17,028 [inaudible] 1436 01:25:19,197 --> 01:25:21,116 Can you imagine a company 1437 01:25:21,199 --> 01:25:25,120 in which some of the employees have just received shares 1438 01:25:25,203 --> 01:25:27,664 and they still hate the company 1439 01:25:27,747 --> 01:25:31,293 and they still are miserable there and eager to get the fuck out? 1440 01:25:31,376 --> 01:25:33,128 That is a weird story. 1441 01:25:38,175 --> 01:25:40,843 Something that they don't tell you about working in a start-up 1442 01:25:40,927 --> 01:25:44,055 is it takes a physical and emotional toll. 1443 01:25:44,139 --> 01:25:46,015 It drains on you. It tears into you. 1444 01:25:46,098 --> 01:25:50,437 You believe in every decision. You bleed MakerBot red. 1445 01:25:52,021 --> 01:25:56,318 And you can only do that so long before it starts to affect who you are. 1446 01:25:56,401 --> 01:25:59,028 At a certain point, you have to evaluate, 1447 01:25:59,111 --> 01:26:02,907 "Is this worth what it's taking out of me?" 1448 01:26:02,990 --> 01:26:06,619 And finally, at great pains, the answer for me came back as "no." 1449 01:26:19,299 --> 01:26:22,844 Who are the early adopters, the people who are tech-savvy, 1450 01:26:22,927 --> 01:26:26,973 who need this stuff that we make, who are they gonna root for right now? 1451 01:26:27,056 --> 01:26:30,352 The guy who just turned corporate and sold his soul? 1452 01:26:30,435 --> 01:26:33,104 Our opportunity now is obviously... 1453 01:26:33,188 --> 01:26:38,318 And I'm hearing it from all over, "You guys are it now." 1454 01:26:38,401 --> 01:26:40,862 [man] You just kind of... you kind of gotta pound it back. Yeah. 1455 01:26:42,614 --> 01:26:44,156 [indistinct talking] 1456 01:26:48,160 --> 01:26:51,581 [Ferguson] This is a huge step up. Wow! 1457 01:26:51,664 --> 01:26:55,793 It's gonna feel like a little too legit. I don't know if I'll be comfortable. 1458 01:26:55,877 --> 01:26:57,587 [man whistling] 1459 01:26:57,670 --> 01:27:00,340 [White] Hey! Hey! Shh! 1460 01:27:00,423 --> 01:27:03,760 We gotta get started 'cause some people have to go early. 1461 01:27:03,843 --> 01:27:07,930 So we're having a little celebration to celebrate lots of things. 1462 01:27:08,014 --> 01:27:09,974 New office, shipping printers. 1463 01:27:10,057 --> 01:27:14,271 Everyone's done a totally incredible job doing everything all the time. 1464 01:27:14,354 --> 01:27:16,147 So this is in honor of that. 1465 01:27:16,231 --> 01:27:19,108 We have several surprises. 1466 01:27:19,191 --> 01:27:21,486 [Linder] This is a... 1467 01:27:21,569 --> 01:27:24,781 really important moment in the story of Formlabs, 1468 01:27:24,864 --> 01:27:27,199 because we have, yesterday, 1469 01:27:27,284 --> 01:27:28,576 about this time, 1470 01:27:28,660 --> 01:27:32,455 completed a Series A fundraise. 1471 01:27:32,539 --> 01:27:34,123 [man] Whoo! 1472 01:27:34,206 --> 01:27:35,417 Yeah. That's good. 1473 01:27:35,500 --> 01:27:37,126 [White laughing] 1474 01:27:37,209 --> 01:27:38,628 [applause] 1475 01:27:40,630 --> 01:27:42,465 [Lobovsky] We raised 19 million. 1476 01:27:42,549 --> 01:27:45,677 It's unprecedented 1477 01:27:45,760 --> 01:27:48,596 for most companies, and especially in the 3D print space, 1478 01:27:48,680 --> 01:27:50,723 and hardware companies. 1479 01:27:50,807 --> 01:27:55,227 You can't really grow much faster or do much better than we did. 1480 01:27:55,312 --> 01:27:56,854 Yeah. 1481 01:27:57,772 --> 01:27:58,940 [all cheering] 1482 01:27:59,023 --> 01:28:00,191 [band playing lively music] 1483 01:28:12,662 --> 01:28:16,291 Honestly, I'm a bit concerned about growth... 1484 01:28:17,249 --> 01:28:19,544 'cause I hate to look at Formlabs... 1485 01:28:20,712 --> 01:28:22,505 [imitating explosion] 1486 01:28:22,589 --> 01:28:24,090 You know, that. 1487 01:28:28,970 --> 01:28:32,014 If we grow too much, we'll lose it, so... 1488 01:28:32,098 --> 01:28:34,434 I think everyone's a bit sensitive to that. 1489 01:28:43,485 --> 01:28:48,072 [Linder] So, if you guys can help me make Max speak, that would be nice. 1490 01:28:48,155 --> 01:28:49,907 [woman] Speech! [Linder] All right. 1491 01:28:51,659 --> 01:28:53,911 So now you got to do it. 1492 01:28:55,037 --> 01:28:56,456 [crowd cheering] 1493 01:28:58,165 --> 01:29:02,003 I was thinking about as we were all hanging out last night 1494 01:29:02,086 --> 01:29:04,130 and setting up the space, 1495 01:29:04,213 --> 01:29:07,800 we were looking around and we're thinking about all the things we're gonna do here. 1496 01:29:11,679 --> 01:29:17,226 These models of growth, and everything goes financially good, 1497 01:29:17,309 --> 01:29:19,020 how do you deal with it? 1498 01:29:19,103 --> 01:29:24,108 Then you need a strong ethical or ideological backbone 1499 01:29:24,191 --> 01:29:25,943 to see how to manage it 1500 01:29:26,027 --> 01:29:29,781 'cause you need to be strong if it's not going good 1501 01:29:29,864 --> 01:29:32,784 and you need to be strong when it's going good. 1502 01:29:32,867 --> 01:29:35,828 Investors and people in business like to talk a lot about, 1503 01:29:35,912 --> 01:29:37,705 "What's your competitive advantage?" 1504 01:29:37,789 --> 01:29:42,585 And if you're really building a company on a really long scale, 1505 01:29:42,669 --> 01:29:47,465 the only advantage you can have on that scale is 1506 01:29:47,549 --> 01:29:51,928 the culture, whatever it is that's intrinsic to this organization. 1507 01:29:52,011 --> 01:29:54,931 That, in some sense, is the most important thing. 1508 01:30:00,853 --> 01:30:04,356 Having people trust him and him trust people 1509 01:30:04,441 --> 01:30:09,403 and them working together for this one thing... 1510 01:30:09,487 --> 01:30:12,239 I think, has opened him up a lot 1511 01:30:12,323 --> 01:30:15,367 because he feels in a place where he belongs. 1512 01:30:17,411 --> 01:30:20,623 We're moving to the next step 1513 01:30:20,707 --> 01:30:23,918 and... I'm really excited. 1514 01:30:24,001 --> 01:30:26,713 I'm really happy to be doing this with you guys. 1515 01:30:26,796 --> 01:30:30,424 So, Formlings... 1516 01:30:30,508 --> 01:30:34,095 thanks for being family. 1517 01:30:34,178 --> 01:30:36,514 -All right! Cheers! -[all cheering] 1518 01:30:42,436 --> 01:30:44,021 [Reches] I think, at the beginning, it was... 1519 01:30:44,105 --> 01:30:46,440 it was a lot of ego involved, like, 1520 01:30:46,524 --> 01:30:48,860 "Yeah, I'll make that. That solution is mine. 1521 01:30:48,943 --> 01:30:50,444 We should stick to my solution." 1522 01:30:50,528 --> 01:30:55,199 This has faded away and I think this is very much... 1523 01:30:55,282 --> 01:30:56,659 a huge step that he took. 1524 01:30:56,743 --> 01:30:57,827 [inaudible] 1525 01:30:59,411 --> 01:31:01,372 The important thing is personal relationships. 1526 01:31:01,455 --> 01:31:02,957 That's the important thing in life. 1527 01:31:03,040 --> 01:31:08,505 And so preserving those contributes to happiness for everybody, 1528 01:31:08,588 --> 01:31:10,214 and even though I'm gone, 1529 01:31:10,297 --> 01:31:14,969 the seeds of things that I planted have still come out and been amazing. 1530 01:31:15,052 --> 01:31:17,096 And working all that stuff out, 1531 01:31:17,179 --> 01:31:21,643 we were able to really know each other and who we are as people. 1532 01:31:21,726 --> 01:31:25,605 This all sounds very froofy but it's true. 1533 01:31:28,941 --> 01:31:32,862 [Lobovsky] I'm sure I've learned and changed a lot in the last two years, 1534 01:31:32,945 --> 01:31:35,364 and I've definitely... 1535 01:31:35,447 --> 01:31:37,033 I think I've got a lot further to go, 1536 01:31:37,116 --> 01:31:42,914 but definitely matured and become more... 1537 01:31:42,997 --> 01:31:44,999 I don't know. 1538 01:31:45,082 --> 01:31:50,337 It's important to step back and see the whole picture. 1539 01:31:59,597 --> 01:32:01,057 [indistinct talking] 1540 01:32:02,642 --> 01:32:05,436 [Pettis] One of the questions you're asking is to do some self-reflection 1541 01:32:05,519 --> 01:32:08,565 on some of the challenges and all that kind of things... 1542 01:32:08,648 --> 01:32:11,901 and it's hard because I actually haven't had time to do much self-reflection. 1543 01:32:11,984 --> 01:32:14,904 So in terms of being able to look back, 1544 01:32:14,987 --> 01:32:18,449 I'm still on the rocket ship and the pedal is to the metal, 1545 01:32:18,532 --> 01:32:21,578 and we're burning as hard as we can. We're going as hard as we can. 1546 01:32:24,288 --> 01:32:25,748 [indistinct talking] 1547 01:32:28,835 --> 01:32:32,672 When people talk about start-ups and young companies, 1548 01:32:32,755 --> 01:32:36,425 they get excited by "accelerator to the floorboard," 1549 01:32:36,508 --> 01:32:39,345 like, "full speed ahead" thing. 1550 01:32:39,428 --> 01:32:42,765 It's seen as very sexy, attractive. 1551 01:32:42,849 --> 01:32:45,727 That's what you want. A fast company, right? 1552 01:32:46,978 --> 01:32:51,649 But when you keep going in that way for a really long time, 1553 01:32:51,733 --> 01:32:53,234 I don't know where you end up. 1554 01:33:10,710 --> 01:33:15,757 You often hear, especially successful entrepreneurs or CEOs say, 1555 01:33:15,840 --> 01:33:19,218 "We sacrificed so much to get to this point." 1556 01:33:19,301 --> 01:33:21,846 And if you're not them or if you've never seen it done, 1557 01:33:21,929 --> 01:33:23,931 you tend to believe that they're talking about, 1558 01:33:24,015 --> 01:33:25,808 "Oh, we worked long nights," 1559 01:33:25,892 --> 01:33:29,186 or, "We didn't see our families," or, "It was really hard." 1560 01:33:29,270 --> 01:33:34,150 When you hear someone say that after you've been through a successful start-up, 1561 01:33:34,233 --> 01:33:38,863 you start to realize that those aren't the sacrifices they're talking about. 1562 01:33:38,946 --> 01:33:41,991 They're talking about having sacrificed who they are. 1563 01:33:42,074 --> 01:33:44,952 They're talking about having to have made compromises 1564 01:33:45,036 --> 01:33:47,789 with their most deep-seated beliefs, 1565 01:33:47,872 --> 01:33:49,415 about having to cross lines 1566 01:33:49,498 --> 01:33:52,209 that they promised themselves they'd never have to cross. 1567 01:33:53,502 --> 01:33:55,171 [audience applauding] 1568 01:33:55,254 --> 01:33:57,214 [Pettis] There's really no excuses. 1569 01:33:57,298 --> 01:33:59,216 It's not, "Are you going to get a 3D printer?" 1570 01:33:59,300 --> 01:34:03,429 It's, "Which MakerBot 3D printer are you going to get?" 1571 01:34:03,512 --> 01:34:05,056 Thank you very much. 1572 01:34:05,973 --> 01:34:07,474 [all applauding] 1573 01:34:13,815 --> 01:34:16,108 This is the true American dream. 1574 01:34:16,192 --> 01:34:21,655 This is someone who started from making a product, 1575 01:34:21,739 --> 01:34:23,657 to develop a great company. 1576 01:34:23,741 --> 01:34:27,036 This is what America's all about. 1577 01:34:27,119 --> 01:34:28,620 [inaudible] 1578 01:34:33,000 --> 01:34:35,294 [Pettis] Yeah, when we were done, it was funny. 1579 01:34:35,377 --> 01:34:37,755 Hiawatha Bray, who's with The Boston Globe, 1580 01:34:37,839 --> 01:34:39,048 came up and was like, 1581 01:34:39,131 --> 01:34:44,178 "That was the best presentation I've seen since Steve Jobs gave keynotes." 1582 01:34:44,261 --> 01:34:46,973 And he said, "Except you're not an asshole." 1583 01:34:47,056 --> 01:34:49,475 I was like, "Print that." [chuckles] 1584 01:35:04,448 --> 01:35:05,449 People are different. 1585 01:35:05,532 --> 01:35:09,411 People have different hopes and dreams and goals and priorities 1586 01:35:09,495 --> 01:35:11,038 and ways of dealing with things and stuff, 1587 01:35:11,122 --> 01:35:13,499 and a start-up can be a pressure cooker 1588 01:35:13,582 --> 01:35:17,294 that just brings all those little grains of sand out. 1589 01:35:25,302 --> 01:35:28,765 Well, I definitely need to work on... 1590 01:35:30,767 --> 01:35:34,896 being more, obviously, passionate and excited when I talk. 1591 01:35:34,979 --> 01:35:37,356 I should actually take some classes or something in that 1592 01:35:37,439 --> 01:35:41,068 'cause I'm not good at it and... 1593 01:35:41,152 --> 01:35:44,488 I don't think I'll ever be amazing, but I could definitely be a lot better. 1594 01:35:56,167 --> 01:35:59,503 I put the potentiality of the gun on the goddamn Internet. 1595 01:35:59,586 --> 01:36:01,172 Even if it's a very weak gun, right, 1596 01:36:01,255 --> 01:36:04,758 it's a template for how this will always go into eternity. 1597 01:36:04,842 --> 01:36:07,553 There's no way to aggressively go root that out. 1598 01:36:07,636 --> 01:36:10,264 In fact, in chasing it, right, you spread it even further. 1599 01:36:12,099 --> 01:36:15,895 The rest, as they say in Yiddish, is narishkeit. 1600 01:36:15,978 --> 01:36:17,438 -You know what that is? -[interviewer] No. 1601 01:36:17,521 --> 01:36:20,191 The piddly little crap that gets in the way of progress. 1602 01:36:29,826 --> 01:36:32,453 I wish we were ultra-ultra-pure 1603 01:36:32,536 --> 01:36:36,373 and could live in a world where there was no money and no competition 1604 01:36:36,457 --> 01:36:42,713 and no greed and all of that and IP wasn't an issue. It is. 1605 01:36:42,796 --> 01:36:43,965 So we have to live in that world, 1606 01:36:44,048 --> 01:36:46,508 and we live in the world in the best way we possibly can 1607 01:36:46,592 --> 01:36:51,138 with the most integrity and the most sharing that we possibly can. 1608 01:38:41,373 --> 01:38:45,419 One way to look at a legend is a legend is always... 1609 01:38:45,502 --> 01:38:49,256 a carefully curated, distilled version of the truth. 1610 01:38:51,342 --> 01:38:53,635 Whose truth is debatable. 134138

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