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[ Helicopter Blades Whirring ]
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[ Male Newscaster ]
In Vail, Colorado,
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the nation's busiest ski resort
was hit today by a fire.
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Arson is suspected.
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[ Male Newscaster #2 ]
You may have heard
of the Earth Liberation Front.
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The attorney general
himself says it's a domestic
terrorist organization.
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The F.B.I. says it is one
of the most dangerous groups
in the country.
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[ Male Newscaster #3 ]
The E.L.F. has claimed
responsibility...
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for more than two dozen
major acts of ecoterrorism
since 1996.
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[ Male Newscaster #4 ]
The fire bombings include
attacks on lumber mills,
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wild horse corrals
and two meatpacking plants.
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[ Male Newscaster #5 ]
So far, not one of the cases
has ever been solved,
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and authorities acknowledge
they know next to nothing...
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about the membership
or the leadership
of the organization.
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[ Man Narrating ]
On December 7, 2005,
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four federal agents
entered my wife's office...
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and arrested
one of her employees--
Daniel McGowan.
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It was part of
a nationwide roundup...
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that eventually
netted 14 members...
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of the radical
environmental group,
the Earth Liberation Front.
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[ Camera Shutters Clicking ]
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In all, their trail of
destruction resulted...
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in millions of dollars
of property damage.
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Today's indictment
is a significant step...
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in bringing these
terrorists to justice.
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[ Narrator ]
Weeks after his arrest,
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Daniel's sister put up
everything she owned for bail,
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and he was placed
on house arrest
in her apartment...
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to wait for trial.
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[ Water Running ]
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[ Daniel ]
In 2001, I was involved
with the Earth Liberation Front.
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And I was involved
in two separate arsons
in one year.
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I think, like,
people look at my case,
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and they think,
"What if that motherfucker
burned down my house?"
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I think people think it's just
a bunch of young crazies...
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walking around with gas cans
lighting shit on fire
that pisses them off.
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And then they think,
"What if I burned things
that pissed me off?
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That's kinda crazy."
You know?
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Which it is kinda crazy.
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But I think people just need
to understand that...
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this thing is complex
and it's not that simple.
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It's hideous to be called
a terrorist.
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There was no one
in any of these facilities.
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No one got hurt.
No one was injured.
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And yet I'm facing
life plus 335 years.
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I split my time between
talking to my lawyers.
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I do a lot of research
on my case.
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You know,
all my legal documents--
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DVDs and CDs
and video and photos.
Audiotapes.
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Hi. This is Daniel McGowan.
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I know that my lawyer
sent you the brief...
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that is being filed
with the court today,
but it's basically about--
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[ Narrator ]
As Daniel is preparing
for trial,
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the government is putting
pressure on him and his
codefendants to take a deal.
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Either they plead guilty
and testify
against each other...
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or go to trial and risk
life in prison.
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I told my lawyers at our first
meeting, "Don't ever bring up
cooperation as a tactic.
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We're never gonna cooperate.
You don't have that card
in your back pocket.
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Don't bring it up."
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All the people in this group
had conversations
back in the day about this.
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Like, you know, "You get
arrested, just don't say a word.
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Just get a lawyer and, like,
we'll, you know, join up
and we'll see what happens."
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Okay. Thanks, Andrea.
I'll talk to you soon. Bye.
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[ Phone Slams On Cradle ]
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My family has done a tremendous
amount of stuff for me.
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I mean, letting me live here.
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But we choose to live
our lives very differently.
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Like, I compost.
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I had never used
a dishwasher in my life
until I moved in here.
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And I try not to impose
my way of doing things
on anyone here,
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but, yeah, we have
different ways of doing things.
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[ Phone Ringing ]
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No, I don't think I need that,
because we paint every edge.
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All right.
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All right. Bye.
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[ Lisa ]
I'd be a liar if I called myself
an environmentalist.
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I mean, I care
about the environment.
I think about the environment.
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Um--
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I recycle.
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But I don't recycle
every single piece of paper
like Danny does.
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When he came home from college,
he lived with me in Rockland.
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One day I came home,
and he took the label...
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off every single
canned good I had...
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because he was, like,
so obsessed with recycling.
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He was like, "If we recycle,
we have to take the labels
off the cans."
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I said, "But you took the labels
off every can. I don't even know
what I have in the cans now.
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I don't know if they're soup.
I don't know
what kind of soup.
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I don't know if they're peas
or they're corn."
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And he's like,
"I never thought of that."
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It was, like,
I opened my cupboard,
and there was just all tin cans.
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I got a call from Jenny,
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uh, totally hysterical, upset,
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saying that some men
came in and took
Daniel from his job.
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My dad's first reaction
was like, "Oh, I don't know
my son anymore."
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And I think
he was just in shock.
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It's funny. Growing up,
he wasn't the political kid
that was fighting for anything.
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No, he was just
a regular kid.
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Played with his friends,
rode his bike.
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It wasn't like he, you know,
had this whole history.
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But, you know, you don't know
what's inside someone
until they get older...
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and they start to think
about who they are.
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[ Daniel ]
I was born in 1974 in Brooklyn.
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I moved to Rockaway
when I was around three--
Rockaway Beach in Queens.
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It's like mostly,
you know, working class people.
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My dad was a cop
in the New York
Police Department.
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I went to high school
at a place
called Christ the King.
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Catholic high school.
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And I was a track runner,
and, you know,
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I got scholarships
and stuff like that.
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And then when I got
to college, I was like,
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"Oh, I guess
I'll major in Business,
because that's practical."
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When I graduated,
I got a job...
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at a massive
public relations company
called Burson-Marsteller.
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During this time period,
at some point along the way,
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I ran into a woman collecting
signatures at Union Square.
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She kept telling me
about Wetlands--
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the Wetlands
Environmental Center.
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And that kinda was
where it changed.
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** [ Rock, Indistinct ]
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It was basically--
The idea was it was a bar
that had live shows,
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but the profits would go to
running an environmental center.
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So I went to this meeting,
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and they played these films
that blew my mind.
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I had never seen
with my own eyes...
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what kind of world we lived in.
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I feel like
I'm in perpetual mourning,
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and I have been from
the moment that, like--
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I don't know-- I kind of
took the blinders off
and was, like,
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"Holy crap.
What the hell are we doing?"
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And I got involved
pretty much instantly.
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I protested constantly.
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I did letter writing a lot.
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I did letter writing
every week at Wetlands.
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I wrote hundreds
of protest letters to all sorts
of different agencies.
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And at the time they announced
that there was gonna be...
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a national gathering
in Crandon, Wisconsin.
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So I went.
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You know, I mean, I was shy.
A city kid. I didn't--
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I mean, I liked nature
as a concept,
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but I was, like,
never had slept outside
before in my whole life.
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I was like 22.
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It was, like, different
than anything I have ever seen.
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We went swimming
in, like, a creek.
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We were, like, going out
on logs and jumping off.
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We were skinny-dipping.
I mean, all this stuff was new.
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You know, traditionally
at the end of the rendezvous,
they have a big action.
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We went to town and had
a protest at the mine office.
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And I actually ended up
being arrested.
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And it was really eye opening,
you know,
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to kinda learn about
this different world...
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and this, like, environmental
resistance movement.
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[ Man ]
I'm a fourth-generation
Oregonian.
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Um, grew up in Eugene.
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My brother works in a mill.
My uncles own mills.
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It's something that,
if you're from the Northwest,
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it's something you do.
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I think I met Daniel
here in Eugene.
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They called him, uh,
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"the disgruntled one,"
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just because he had
sort of this nasty
sort of attitude...
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and he was
always sort of
bitter.
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And he was always sort of pissed
off...
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and he'd always challenge people
for their "stupid ideas."
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And so, uh, you know, they sort
of coined this nickname for him,
"the disgruntled one."
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I think Daniel arrived out here
about '99-- 1999.
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But to really understand,
you know, why these
arsons were set,
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I think you gotta go
all the way back...
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to a time when Daniel
was still living back east.
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You gotta go to about 1995,
which was, uh,
the Warner Creek timber sale.
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Warner Creek's
about 50 miles east of Eugene,
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and it's probably one of
the most beautiful places
I've ever been.
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And in 1995, the Forest Service
decided to open it up
for logging.
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People went up there
and created a blockade...
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on a federal logging road
to try to prevent,
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you know, the logging
of this place.
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So we created
a documentary called Pickaxe,
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which is the story
of Warner Creek.
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[ Man Over Walkie-talkie ]
There's more vehicles
on the way. Over.
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[ Man #2 ]
One grader
followed by one Dudley.
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We don't think you guys
have the right...
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to take a protected forest
teeming with life, you know,
bid it and log it.
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[ Lewis ]
For a long time, people were
fighting the Forest Service...
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through, like, holding signs,
letter writing--
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sort of a sort of a hippie-type
approach to protest.
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But there was this
new kind of protest
that was becoming popular.
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People would call it sabotage,
or monkey-wrenching.
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They would glue locks.
They'd pull up survey stakes.
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They would maybe put sugar
in gas tanks of bulldozers.
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At Warner Creek, you know,
just a simple little blockade...
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turned into
an all-out assault...
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on the only way
into that forest.
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Protesters dug
a series of trenches...
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to keep logging trucks
from getting to the forest.
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And then
they built the wall.
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It looked like an old fort
from the wild, wild West...
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and it had a drawbridge,
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and it was really
a cool blockade.
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We're drawing a line
in the sand, and you can't come
in here and destroy this place.
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And they stayed up there
for about a year.
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[ Protestors Chattering ]
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As a federal law enforcement
officer, it is my duty to inform
you that you're in violation.
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You have five minutes to get out
of here, and you have actually
less than five minutes.
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[ Lewis ]
Early one morning,
the Forest Service came up--
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[ Female Officer Chattering ]
and arrested the protesters--
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- Okay.
- and knocked down the wall.
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That created a lot of bitterness
toward the Forest Service.
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And soon after,
things began to escalate.
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The first time
I met Jacob Ferguson
was at Warner Creek.
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He was sort of a cool dude.
He didn't say much.
He just did a lot of work.
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But I think it's really hard
to know Jacob Ferguson...
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unless you're on the in--
inside of Jacob's life.
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This is the house
I moved into right over here.
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And right at that time,
Jacob Ferguson was living
right over there.
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But Jacob, uh, was a pirate.
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He was, uh-- He was definitely,
um, an outlaw.
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** [ Punk ]
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** [ Continues ]
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Yeah!
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[ Lewis ] He tried to play
a bad boy image,
and he did it well,
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because I think
he really was one.
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After Warner Creek,
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I think he really felt...
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that the Forest Service
was getting away with stuff.
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I think most of America feels
the U.S. Forest Service's
job is to protect the forest.
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But the Forest Service
is a part of the
Department of Agriculture.
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And the Department
of Agriculture...
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looks upon these forests
as crops.
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The U.S. Forest Service's
real job is to provide trees
for these timber companies...
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so they can cut these trees
from our national forests.
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They were cutting down
these massive old-growth trees,
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up to 750,
even a thousand years old
that were just massive.
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But I think Jake was
tired of the talk.
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He was tired of just,
you know, philosophizing.
236
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"You guys," you know--
"You through talking shit now,
or what?
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Let's do it."
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[ People Chattering ]
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[ Clicks ]
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[ Man ]
This investigation was...
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the largest
domestic terrorism case...
242
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in the history
of the United States.
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And the very first
E.L.F. action that occurred
in the United States...
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occurred at two ranger stations
in the district of Oregon.
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Mainstream, legitimate
environmental activists...
246
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were absolutely shocked...
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and disgusted with the fire,
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and they saw the burning
of the Oakridge
Ranger Station...
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as a public relations
disaster.
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[ Narrator ]
In the months after
the ranger station fires,
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there was a split within
the environmental movement.
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In Eugene, which was quickly
becoming a hotbed of activism,
253
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a growing community
of younger environmentalists
cheered on the arsons.
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But most environmentalists
argued that, in a democracy,
255
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public protest was still
a better way of making change.
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[ Chattering, Indistinct ]
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In the summer of '97,
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just a few months after
the ranger station fires,
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an event took place
in downtown Eugene...
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that for many
shook up the debate.
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[ Lewis ]
There was this place downtown...
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that had 40 old heritage trees--
just beautiful.
263
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And they were gonna put in
a parking lot for Symantec,
264
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this big corporation next door.
265
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And they were gonna cut down
the trees to do it.
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[ Narrator ]
Activists began mobilizing
to save the trees,
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but as they prepared
to take the issue to
the next city council meeting,
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the city suddenly announced
that it would cut the trees...
269
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one day before
that public hearing.
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[ Lewis ]
On Sunday morning,
about 2:30 in the morning,
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about 11 people
went up
into the trees...
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to prevent them
from being cut.
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We just went and did it,
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hoping that we could stave off
the cutting...
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for one day until
that public hearing.
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Just for one day
so the citizens could talk
to the city council...
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the next day
about saving them.
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[ Flynn ]
They came in right away
wearing riot gear...
279
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and gas masks
and stuff like that.
280
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So, uh, bang, bang, bang
on the door at 8:00
in the morning.
281
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Some kid says,
"Get out there! Get out there!
282
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They're pepper-spraying them
in the trees! Get your camera.
You gotta get there!
283
00:19:23,996 --> 00:19:25,498
I mean, they're pepper-spraying
them right now!"
284
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[ Man ]
Hang in there, Jim!
285
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[ Flynn ]
They came up
in the fire truck bucket,
286
00:19:34,307 --> 00:19:37,910
and they cut my pants leg
up to my groin...
287
00:19:37,944 --> 00:19:40,447
so they could spray
my leg with pepper spray.
288
00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:44,584
Cutting, you know, their pants
and pepper-spraying them
in the ass...
289
00:19:44,617 --> 00:19:46,986
and pepper-spraying them
in the balls...
290
00:19:47,019 --> 00:19:49,789
while they were hanging
from the limbs 40 feet up.
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00:19:49,822 --> 00:19:51,858
People were on the street
looking at this and going,
292
00:19:51,891 --> 00:19:54,694
"What the fuck
do you think you're doing?"
293
00:19:54,727 --> 00:19:56,696
And so people
were radicalized.
294
00:19:56,729 --> 00:19:58,331
They started jumping
on the fence and going,
295
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"Quit that shit!"
[ Shouting ]
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[ Flynn ]
They're tear-gassing the crowd
and pepper-spraying the crowd.
297
00:20:03,836 --> 00:20:06,673
It was just a crazy,
frantic scene that day.
298
00:20:06,706 --> 00:20:09,876
[ Shouting Continues ]
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[ Lewis ]
And they used about
12 to 15 cans on Flynn,
300
00:20:17,950 --> 00:20:22,889
and he stayed up for, I think,
about six or seven hours, man.
301
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[ Man ]
No!
302
00:20:31,698 --> 00:20:35,335
[ Flynn ]
And then they flushed me
with a bunch of water,
303
00:20:35,368 --> 00:20:37,870
took me to the hospital
and then took me to jail.
304
00:20:37,904 --> 00:20:40,707
So for the next,
you know, 35 hours,
305
00:20:40,740 --> 00:20:42,775
I was soaking
in pepper spray.
306
00:20:42,809 --> 00:20:44,744
My hands were orange
for a week.
307
00:20:44,777 --> 00:20:48,348
And so the argument
that you need to work
within the system...
308
00:20:48,381 --> 00:20:51,818
was pretty well dashed
by what the cops did
on that day in Eugene.
309
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[ Protestors Shouting ]
310
00:20:54,787 --> 00:20:58,291
And June 1
was really the day...
311
00:20:58,325 --> 00:21:00,893
that pissed off a lot
of people in this town.
312
00:21:05,632 --> 00:21:07,334
[ Horns Honking ]
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[ Daniel ]
I remember reading about it.
314
00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:15,775
People were like,
"Oh, we have this footage."
315
00:21:15,808 --> 00:21:17,744
And, you know,
it was really intense.
316
00:21:17,777 --> 00:21:20,447
And that kind of stuff, like--
that's part of the story.
317
00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:22,349
That was, like,
part of the backdrop.
[ Shouting ]
318
00:21:24,984 --> 00:21:27,620
It's crazy. It's crazy.
I think a lot of moments
like that...
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00:21:27,654 --> 00:21:30,657
really erode
people's belief that
anything can actually change.
320
00:21:34,561 --> 00:21:36,896
Next week it's four months
that I'm on house arrest.
321
00:21:36,929 --> 00:21:38,931
[ Man On Radio ]
There is no construction on--
[ Continues, Indistinct ]
322
00:21:38,965 --> 00:21:41,668
My days here are really tedious.
323
00:21:41,701 --> 00:21:43,936
[ Spraying ]
It's just really hard
to focus and do anything.
324
00:21:46,506 --> 00:21:49,742
Just thinking about my future
and how uncertain it is.
325
00:21:51,110 --> 00:21:53,446
I get really sad at night,
you know.
326
00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:55,882
I prefer to sleep
straight through
so I don't have those moments,
327
00:21:55,915 --> 00:21:57,850
but I have them
almost every night, so--
328
00:21:59,686 --> 00:22:01,988
I've been doing okay
though, you know,
all things considered.
329
00:22:02,021 --> 00:22:03,723
I mean, I feel like,
on one level,
330
00:22:03,756 --> 00:22:05,825
I just have to be really
thankful for what I have,
331
00:22:05,858 --> 00:22:09,629
which is, like, a good family
and really good friends,
332
00:22:09,662 --> 00:22:12,565
and so I try to, like,
keep things in perspective.
333
00:22:16,636 --> 00:22:17,804
Hold on one second.
334
00:22:17,837 --> 00:22:19,406
Hi.
Hey. How are you?
335
00:22:19,439 --> 00:22:20,773
Great. How you doing?
Good.
336
00:22:22,509 --> 00:22:23,943
[ Narrator ]
Daniel was living
with his girlfriend...
337
00:22:23,976 --> 00:22:25,845
when he was arrested,
338
00:22:25,878 --> 00:22:28,815
and she's moved
into his sister's apartment
to be with him.
339
00:22:28,848 --> 00:22:30,383
You know,
people are all different,
340
00:22:30,417 --> 00:22:32,785
and some other people,
if they were in my position,
341
00:22:32,819 --> 00:22:34,821
they might have been
totally, like,
342
00:22:34,854 --> 00:22:36,989
questioning everything.
343
00:22:37,023 --> 00:22:39,692
But it just--
It's not me.
344
00:22:41,193 --> 00:22:45,031
I think that he feels
the dread every single day.
345
00:22:46,198 --> 00:22:48,768
It definitely removes...
346
00:22:48,801 --> 00:22:51,638
some of the life
from his personality.
347
00:22:55,107 --> 00:22:57,844
[ Phone Rings ]
348
00:22:58,678 --> 00:23:00,913
Hello?
349
00:23:00,947 --> 00:23:02,715
Hey, what's up?
How are you?
350
00:23:05,552 --> 00:23:07,454
Wait, wait, wait.
351
00:23:08,955 --> 00:23:10,823
So wait, wait.
I'm sorry.
352
00:23:10,857 --> 00:23:12,825
He's cooperating
to the full extent?
353
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:22,635
[ Narrator ]
Six of Daniel's codefendants...
354
00:23:22,669 --> 00:23:24,971
have appeared in court
to accept plea deals.
[ Barking ]
355
00:23:25,004 --> 00:23:28,207
In exchange
for reduced sentences,
356
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:32,411
they've agreed to testify
in the government's case against
the remaining defendants.
357
00:23:34,481 --> 00:23:37,584
[ Daniel ]
It hurts that people that
I trusted and cared about,
358
00:23:37,617 --> 00:23:40,152
you know,
turned their back on me.
359
00:23:40,186 --> 00:23:42,922
To be a cooperating witness,
it's something
other people can do.
360
00:23:42,955 --> 00:23:45,892
I'm just not gonna do it,
because I just have
to live with myself,
361
00:23:45,925 --> 00:23:49,629
and I'm not gonna be that person
and start spewing out crap...
362
00:23:49,662 --> 00:23:52,765
just to, like, get myself
out of a situation
that's not very pleasant.
363
00:23:52,799 --> 00:23:54,534
So--
364
00:23:55,868 --> 00:23:57,804
[ Sighs ]
365
00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:05,712
[ Synan ] I'd want him to do
whatever he needed to do
to not go to prison.
366
00:24:07,647 --> 00:24:11,050
But I would never want him
to compromise...
367
00:24:11,083 --> 00:24:12,985
his values or beliefs.
368
00:24:14,754 --> 00:24:18,124
So if he has to choose,
he'll be facing
life in prison.
369
00:24:22,128 --> 00:24:24,664
I made the choice
to be with him,
370
00:24:24,697 --> 00:24:28,134
and after he was arrested
I made the choice
to stay with him.
371
00:24:28,167 --> 00:24:30,269
I mean, that's what you do
when you're--
372
00:24:30,302 --> 00:24:32,805
when you're
in a relationship
with someone.
373
00:24:32,839 --> 00:24:34,807
Just because something
really difficult comes up...
374
00:24:34,841 --> 00:24:37,777
doesn't mean you just
run away, you know?
375
00:24:37,810 --> 00:24:39,912
So--
376
00:24:39,946 --> 00:24:41,614
I think we should get married.
[ Chuckles ]
377
00:24:54,594 --> 00:24:58,030
[ Chattering, Indistinct ]
378
00:25:01,133 --> 00:25:02,835
Daniel, I've seen you
with Jenny,
379
00:25:02,869 --> 00:25:05,004
and you're wonderful with her.
380
00:25:05,037 --> 00:25:06,839
You're good for each other,
381
00:25:06,873 --> 00:25:10,743
you have great chemistry,
and-- [ Voice Cracking ]
and I love you both.
382
00:25:11,878 --> 00:25:14,981
Congratulations.
[ Applause ]
383
00:25:15,014 --> 00:25:19,018
This kid faces 335 years
plus life in prison,
384
00:25:19,051 --> 00:25:20,252
and he's getting married.
385
00:25:23,222 --> 00:25:25,758
I want to kinda
grab the positive...
386
00:25:25,792 --> 00:25:27,994
and think that this is
gonna work out in the end,
387
00:25:28,027 --> 00:25:29,796
everything's gonna be okay,
388
00:25:29,829 --> 00:25:32,732
and, you know, there's
nothing to stress about,
389
00:25:32,765 --> 00:25:35,101
but... there is.
390
00:25:41,974 --> 00:25:43,209
Hey.
391
00:25:43,242 --> 00:25:45,745
Oh, if it isn't my sister.
How are you?
392
00:25:45,778 --> 00:25:48,047
How are you?
Perfect timing.
Ah, I'm friggin' hot.
393
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:49,882
- That's why I'm out here.
- Let me see your ring.
394
00:25:49,916 --> 00:25:51,083
Oh.
395
00:25:52,318 --> 00:25:54,253
[ Laughs ]
396
00:25:54,286 --> 00:25:55,988
And by "nicer,"
she means more money.
397
00:25:56,022 --> 00:25:58,591
It's diamonds!
398
00:25:58,625 --> 00:26:01,761
His ring is made out of, like,
some recycled type metal...
399
00:26:01,794 --> 00:26:04,764
that doesn't hurt anything
or anybody, and mine's made
of good old diamonds.
400
00:26:04,797 --> 00:26:07,366
[ Laughing ]
401
00:26:07,399 --> 00:26:09,101
Come on, let's go have
a good time.
402
00:26:09,902 --> 00:26:12,739
** [ Pop ]
403
00:26:21,648 --> 00:26:24,083
[ Barton ]
It's easy to discount
the environmental movement...
404
00:26:24,116 --> 00:26:28,287
as a bunch of wackos
and hippies and arsonists.
405
00:26:29,188 --> 00:26:30,923
But it's not like that.
406
00:26:32,258 --> 00:26:34,761
There are businessmen
and, you know,
407
00:26:34,794 --> 00:26:37,830
moms and dads
and scientists
and loggers themselves.
408
00:26:37,864 --> 00:26:41,167
There are people
from every walk of life
that get involved in this.
409
00:26:45,337 --> 00:26:49,341
I've spent several years
of my life...
410
00:26:49,375 --> 00:26:52,378
doing logging in the woods.
411
00:26:52,411 --> 00:26:55,948
I come with a little different
perspective than a lot of the,
412
00:26:55,982 --> 00:26:59,118
you know, the environmental
crowd or the, you know,
413
00:26:59,151 --> 00:27:01,053
the logging crowd.
414
00:27:01,087 --> 00:27:02,722
I've got a little
of both in me.
415
00:27:02,755 --> 00:27:04,423
I'm okay with
cutting down trees.
416
00:27:04,456 --> 00:27:06,659
I just don't have
an issue with it.
417
00:27:06,693 --> 00:27:08,895
But I'm not okay
with cutting them all down.
418
00:27:10,897 --> 00:27:15,234
The industry tends to call
environmentalists radical.
419
00:27:15,267 --> 00:27:18,137
[ Chuckles ]
The reality is that 95%...
420
00:27:18,170 --> 00:27:21,307
of the standing native forests
in the United States
have been cut down.
421
00:27:23,409 --> 00:27:27,113
It's not radical to try
and save the last five percent.
422
00:27:27,146 --> 00:27:30,717
What's radical
is logging 95%.
423
00:27:30,750 --> 00:27:32,051
This is radical.
424
00:27:34,854 --> 00:27:38,090
This is a piece
of a big old tree.
425
00:27:38,124 --> 00:27:41,260
This tree probably sprouted
just about the time...
426
00:27:41,293 --> 00:27:44,063
Columbus
sailed the ocean blue.
427
00:27:45,732 --> 00:27:49,235
It looks about 500 years old,
somewhere in there.
428
00:27:49,268 --> 00:27:51,203
You know, the suckers,
if they could talk,
429
00:27:51,237 --> 00:27:54,707
would probably say
it'd been pretty boring up
until about 75 years ago...
430
00:27:54,741 --> 00:27:57,009
when all hell broke loose
out here on the ridge,
431
00:27:57,043 --> 00:27:59,445
and they started
cutting them down.
432
00:27:59,478 --> 00:28:02,481
Most of them are gone now,
so we won't be seeing
any of these...
433
00:28:02,514 --> 00:28:05,952
for at least another
500 years, and that's
if we leave them alone.
434
00:28:07,987 --> 00:28:09,722
These are amazing
old trees.
435
00:28:15,194 --> 00:28:17,730
[ Daniel ]
I moved out west
in October of '98.
436
00:28:24,236 --> 00:28:27,039
I got out
to Northern California.
437
00:28:27,073 --> 00:28:29,208
I had never seen trees
like that before.
438
00:28:30,810 --> 00:28:33,412
It had a really
profound impact on me.
439
00:28:34,881 --> 00:28:37,316
I was already quite
radicalized,
440
00:28:37,349 --> 00:28:40,719
but I couldn't believe
the fact that people accepted
what was going on.
441
00:28:44,290 --> 00:28:48,294
I have memories of, like--
like, for the first time
seeing log trucks, you know,
442
00:28:48,327 --> 00:28:49,829
and being like, "Whoa."
443
00:28:52,398 --> 00:28:55,401
You saw the mills.
444
00:28:55,434 --> 00:28:58,137
Or you go on into the forest
and stumble upon a clear-cut.
445
00:28:58,170 --> 00:29:01,173
Like, it just blew me away.
446
00:29:01,207 --> 00:29:03,910
Just the arrogance of it.
447
00:29:05,511 --> 00:29:08,915
I was like,
"Man, this is butchered."
448
00:29:08,948 --> 00:29:12,318
You know?
It made me think, like,
"Why are we being so gentle?
449
00:29:12,351 --> 00:29:15,988
Why are we so gentle
in our activism when this
is what's happening, you know?"
450
00:29:20,559 --> 00:29:23,062
[ Narrator ]
After the ranger station fires,
451
00:29:23,095 --> 00:29:26,265
Jake Ferguson and members
of the fledgling E.L.F....
452
00:29:26,298 --> 00:29:29,035
set their sights
on new targets.
453
00:29:29,068 --> 00:29:32,271
They came across
an Associated Press article...
454
00:29:32,304 --> 00:29:35,407
about the rounding up
of wild horses
from government land.
455
00:29:36,542 --> 00:29:38,845
The horses were being sent
to slaughterhouses,
456
00:29:38,878 --> 00:29:40,913
including
the Cavel West plant...
457
00:29:40,947 --> 00:29:44,050
in nearby Redmond, Oregon.
458
00:29:44,083 --> 00:29:47,386
There were so many horses
being processed at the plant...
459
00:29:47,419 --> 00:29:49,455
that horse blood would
sometimes overwhelm...
460
00:29:49,488 --> 00:29:51,423
the town's water
treatment facility...
461
00:29:51,457 --> 00:29:53,025
and shut it down.
462
00:29:53,059 --> 00:29:55,227
And for 10 years,
463
00:29:55,261 --> 00:29:57,196
people from the area had tried,
464
00:29:57,229 --> 00:30:00,132
and failed, to stop the plant.
465
00:30:00,166 --> 00:30:03,469
But on July 21, 1997,
466
00:30:03,502 --> 00:30:07,840
Jake Ferguson and three others
slipped into the facility
in the middle of the night...
467
00:30:07,874 --> 00:30:11,143
and burned it to the ground.
468
00:30:11,177 --> 00:30:13,612
The company was never able
to rebuild,
469
00:30:13,645 --> 00:30:17,116
and the arson
became a model for the group.
470
00:30:17,149 --> 00:30:19,351
In one night,
they had accomplished...
471
00:30:19,385 --> 00:30:23,389
what years of letter writing
and picketing
had never been able to do.
472
00:30:26,325 --> 00:30:29,996
They expanded and took on
new targets.
473
00:30:30,029 --> 00:30:32,965
They burned timber company
headquarters,
474
00:30:32,999 --> 00:30:35,467
a Bureau of Land Management
office...
475
00:30:35,501 --> 00:30:39,271
and a $12 million
ski lodge at Vail, Colorado...
476
00:30:39,305 --> 00:30:42,541
to protest the resort's
expansion into national forest.
477
00:30:44,043 --> 00:30:46,178
An E.L.F. press office
was opened...
478
00:30:46,212 --> 00:30:50,116
by activists
who did not know the identities
of the E.L.F. members.
479
00:30:50,149 --> 00:30:51,617
- That's that.
- How do they contact you?
480
00:30:51,650 --> 00:30:53,886
- Anonymously.
- But-- I mean, what is that?
481
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,055
Like a package dropped
on your doorstep?
Well, it can be--
482
00:30:56,088 --> 00:31:00,159
They publicized the fires
and explained
the group's actions.
483
00:31:00,192 --> 00:31:04,196
When a building burns down,
they have to do a news story
about it.
484
00:31:04,230 --> 00:31:06,298
That's why the Earth Liberation
Front burned down the building
in the first place:
485
00:31:06,332 --> 00:31:08,367
to get exposure.
486
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:12,238
We were there to help explain
why that building burned down,
487
00:31:12,271 --> 00:31:15,474
what it was doing
in the first place that was
angering people so much.
488
00:31:17,043 --> 00:31:18,610
A lot of what the Earth
Liberation Front did...
489
00:31:18,644 --> 00:31:20,579
was considered
economic sabotage.
490
00:31:21,713 --> 00:31:24,483
These corporations exist
to make money.
491
00:31:24,516 --> 00:31:26,152
All of a sudden
they're losing money,
492
00:31:26,185 --> 00:31:28,620
so they have to reassess
their activities.
493
00:31:28,654 --> 00:31:31,690
Another thing that happens
is that the building...
494
00:31:31,723 --> 00:31:35,127
that was dumping
toxic waste, for example,
into the river one day...
495
00:31:35,161 --> 00:31:38,064
is unable dump
that waste tomorrow.
496
00:31:38,097 --> 00:31:41,934
[ Narrator ] The press office
encouraged people to start
their own E.L.F. cells,
497
00:31:41,968 --> 00:31:45,037
but mandated that
their fires not harm any life.
498
00:31:45,071 --> 00:31:47,206
Take initiative,
form your own cell...
499
00:31:47,239 --> 00:31:51,043
and do what needs to be done
to protect all life
on this planet.
500
00:31:51,077 --> 00:31:53,212
[ Narrator ]
The idea spread,
501
00:31:53,245 --> 00:31:56,548
and new, anonymous cells
popped up in other parts
of the country.
502
00:31:56,582 --> 00:32:00,086
[ Female Newscaster ]
The Earth Liberation Front
is turning up the heat again,
503
00:32:00,119 --> 00:32:03,689
igniting devastating blazes
all across the country.
504
00:32:03,722 --> 00:32:06,225
[ Female Reporter ]
A biology lab
at the University of Minnesota.
505
00:32:06,258 --> 00:32:09,528
[ Male Reporter ]
Bloomington, Indiana.
New York's Long Island.
506
00:32:09,561 --> 00:32:12,698
[ Female Reporter ]
Now some say E.L.F.
is in New England.
507
00:32:12,731 --> 00:32:18,104
[ Horns Honking ]
[ Whooping, Cheering ]
508
00:32:18,137 --> 00:32:20,406
[ Lewis ]
Back in Eugene,
people were celebrating.
509
00:32:20,439 --> 00:32:22,241
[ Honking Continues ]
510
00:32:22,274 --> 00:32:25,477
We had no idea that
it was people from
our neighborhood...
511
00:32:25,511 --> 00:32:29,115
and they were friends of ours,
but we were hearing about
what was happening.
512
00:32:29,148 --> 00:32:31,617
- We were celebrating.
- ** [ Drumming ]
513
00:32:35,521 --> 00:32:39,291
I don't think it was just
the E.L.F. that started
ratcheting things up.
514
00:32:39,325 --> 00:32:44,230
I think activists all over
the Northwest were also
kicking it up a notch.
515
00:32:44,263 --> 00:32:46,198
[ Shouting, Chanting ]
They thought
there was a possibility...
516
00:32:46,232 --> 00:32:49,568
of really
making things change.
517
00:32:49,601 --> 00:32:52,604
Just have to work at it
a little harder
and get a little more radical.
518
00:32:53,739 --> 00:32:56,242
[ Chanting ]
519
00:32:56,275 --> 00:32:58,544
[ Cheering ]
520
00:33:03,249 --> 00:33:05,684
He's not turning it off.
He knows someone's locked under.
521
00:33:05,717 --> 00:33:08,087
There's an old woman.
She's 80 years old!
522
00:33:14,460 --> 00:33:16,662
[ Horn Honking ]
[ Shouting ]
523
00:33:26,138 --> 00:33:28,574
[ Lewis ]
There was a sort of
a progression of radicalism...
524
00:33:28,607 --> 00:33:30,676
that happened in Eugene.
525
00:33:30,709 --> 00:33:35,547
And so the police were
also amping up their presence...
526
00:33:35,581 --> 00:33:38,584
because we were
amping up our presence.
527
00:33:40,119 --> 00:33:43,122
Literally, we were having
two protests a week.
528
00:33:43,155 --> 00:33:46,058
You know, major protests.
529
00:33:46,092 --> 00:33:49,628
And so you can imagine what
law enforcement went like.
530
00:33:51,130 --> 00:33:53,665
I was doing undercover work
around the Eugene area.
531
00:33:55,234 --> 00:33:57,236
We were looking for some
of these individuals...
532
00:33:57,269 --> 00:33:59,638
that were causing
mayhem around Eugene.
533
00:34:01,740 --> 00:34:04,576
I think it was well known
in the movement...
534
00:34:04,610 --> 00:34:09,315
that they could probe
and push and get us to react...
535
00:34:09,348 --> 00:34:13,185
in a way that oftentimes
didn't look very good.
536
00:34:13,219 --> 00:34:15,387
Get back! Get back!
537
00:34:15,421 --> 00:34:17,856
[ Crowd Shouting ]
[ Air Horn Blows ]
538
00:34:17,889 --> 00:34:20,526
Hey! Hey!
539
00:34:20,559 --> 00:34:22,594
Hey! Hey!
[ All Shouting ]
540
00:34:22,628 --> 00:34:24,563
Hey, get back!
541
00:34:24,596 --> 00:34:27,733
[ Shouting Continues ]
Get back! Get back!
542
00:34:27,766 --> 00:34:31,103
But we were getting
rocks and bottles...
543
00:34:31,137 --> 00:34:33,739
and that kind of thing-- fire--
thrown at us, you know.
544
00:34:33,772 --> 00:34:35,674
It just
hadn't happened before.
545
00:34:35,707 --> 00:34:38,310
Out of the street!
[ Woman ]
You fucker!
546
00:34:38,344 --> 00:34:41,847
To say that emotions
don't play into that
would be folly.
547
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:47,319
I mean, that's not true.
It is personal
to take a rock.
548
00:34:47,353 --> 00:34:50,522
[ All Shouting ]
549
00:34:50,556 --> 00:34:54,560
No!
[ Shouting Continues ]
550
00:34:54,593 --> 00:34:58,297
[ Lewis ]
And people's views got hardened
and more radicalized...
551
00:34:58,330 --> 00:35:02,268
from what the police
were doing to them
within Eugene,
552
00:35:02,301 --> 00:35:05,537
or other campaigns that were
going on around the Northwest.
553
00:35:05,571 --> 00:35:07,673
Are you gonna release?
554
00:35:09,441 --> 00:35:11,777
[ Man ]
Why are you doing this
to us?
555
00:35:11,810 --> 00:35:13,779
Okay.
Are you going to release?
556
00:35:13,812 --> 00:35:15,781
[ Woman Shouting ]
Who's gonna release?
557
00:35:17,649 --> 00:35:20,752
[ Woman ]
Oh, I love you!
I love you.
558
00:35:20,786 --> 00:35:23,422
[ Officer ] I only did one eye.
I'm gonna do the other eye
if you don't release.
559
00:35:23,455 --> 00:35:25,657
Please don't hurt me!
560
00:35:29,961 --> 00:35:31,830
[ Woman #2 ]
Leave her
alone!
561
00:35:31,863 --> 00:35:35,401
Stop it!
Stop it! Stop!
[ Screaming ]
562
00:35:35,434 --> 00:35:37,503
When those people
were getting attacked...
563
00:35:37,536 --> 00:35:40,472
and stepped on
and pepper-sprayed in their face
while they were locked down,
564
00:35:40,506 --> 00:35:43,642
I thought, "Protest
and civil disobedience--
What's the point?
565
00:35:43,675 --> 00:35:46,478
Why bother?" You know?
It's not getting us anywhere.
566
00:35:46,512 --> 00:35:50,816
We're getting victimized
by their police, you know.
567
00:35:50,849 --> 00:35:54,486
I don't know. I think I,
like a lot of people
I knew at the time,
568
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:56,822
experienced a massive
loss of faith...
569
00:35:56,855 --> 00:36:01,460
in that systemic change
could happen through,
you know,
570
00:36:01,493 --> 00:36:04,596
the system regulating itself
or reforming itself.
571
00:36:04,630 --> 00:36:06,932
** [ News Theme ]
Good evening.
572
00:36:06,965 --> 00:36:09,535
When the World Trade Summit
was planned for Seattle,
573
00:36:09,568 --> 00:36:13,339
the administration obviously
hoped it would be a triumph
for Bill Clinton...
574
00:36:13,372 --> 00:36:15,674
in the closing months
of his presidency.
575
00:36:15,707 --> 00:36:20,346
Instead, it's been a nightmare
of protests and demonstrations
in the streets.
576
00:36:20,379 --> 00:36:22,848
** [ Drumming ]
[ Narrator ]
In 1999,
577
00:36:22,881 --> 00:36:25,917
tens of thousands of people
converged on Seattle...
578
00:36:25,951 --> 00:36:30,756
to protest the W.T.O.
and its effect on
the environment and labor.
579
00:36:30,789 --> 00:36:35,527
They blockaded the streets
using nonviolent
civil disobedience.
580
00:36:35,561 --> 00:36:40,232
Peaceful protest!
Peaceful protest!
581
00:36:40,266 --> 00:36:42,934
The police responded with force
to clear the streets.
582
00:36:53,679 --> 00:36:57,516
[ Man Shouting, Indistinct ]
You're shooting poison!
583
00:36:57,549 --> 00:37:00,719
But while the authorities were
focused on the demonstrators,
584
00:37:00,752 --> 00:37:04,856
another group appeared
that included current and future
members of the E.L.F.
585
00:37:04,890 --> 00:37:06,792
I had met these people
in Seattle,
586
00:37:06,825 --> 00:37:09,395
and I was introduced
to kind of a larger group
of individuals.
587
00:37:09,428 --> 00:37:10,962
[ Man On Bullhorn ]
Back to the sidewalk!
588
00:37:10,996 --> 00:37:13,465
[ Daniel ]
Here we are
in our black clothes.
589
00:37:13,499 --> 00:37:15,967
You know, downtown Seattle
is just full of corporations...
590
00:37:16,001 --> 00:37:18,970
that are wrecking
devastation and destruction
on the planet,
591
00:37:19,004 --> 00:37:20,606
and people were just like,
"Okay, let's do it."
592
00:37:20,639 --> 00:37:25,577
** [ Hard Rock ]
593
00:37:25,611 --> 00:37:28,447
These businesses,
they're not gonna bow to people
dancing in the street.
594
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:32,418
They're not gonna bow to people
dressed as, you know,
giant sea turtles or so on.
595
00:37:32,451 --> 00:37:34,720
They care about one thing.
They care about capital.
596
00:37:34,753 --> 00:37:37,323
Unless we put a dent
in their pocket, what good--
How are you gonna do that?
597
00:37:37,356 --> 00:37:38,957
How are you gonna put
a dent in their pocket?
598
00:37:38,990 --> 00:37:40,792
Hopefully by causing
property damage.
599
00:37:40,826 --> 00:37:43,295
* Yeah
600
00:37:45,564 --> 00:37:48,434
[ Cheering ]
601
00:37:48,467 --> 00:37:51,069
[ Daniel ]
I'd never breathed tear gas,
pepper spray...
602
00:37:51,102 --> 00:37:53,772
or saw rubber bullets
or concussion grenades
until that point.
603
00:37:53,805 --> 00:37:56,575
It was, like, insane.
I really felt like,
"This is like a war zone."
604
00:37:56,608 --> 00:37:57,843
Like, wow. Holy crap.
605
00:37:57,876 --> 00:38:00,078
* Yeah
606
00:38:00,111 --> 00:38:02,948
[ All Shouting ]
607
00:38:10,656 --> 00:38:13,325
** [ Ends ]
608
00:38:13,359 --> 00:38:16,595
It felt good to take out my rage
on these corporate windows...
609
00:38:16,628 --> 00:38:19,064
because they had caused
so much destruction,
in my mind.
610
00:38:19,097 --> 00:38:21,800
Stop it! Stop it!
611
00:38:21,833 --> 00:38:25,804
It created, obviously,
a huge conversation
and a dialogue and fight.
612
00:38:25,837 --> 00:38:29,408
This is not what
the protest was about!
613
00:38:29,441 --> 00:38:32,644
[ Alarm Ringing ]
People work hard
for their property!
614
00:38:32,678 --> 00:38:35,581
Vandalism is vandalism.
Destruction is destruction,
615
00:38:35,614 --> 00:38:37,516
whether it's of lives
or property.
616
00:38:37,549 --> 00:38:39,084
It's not acceptable.
617
00:38:39,117 --> 00:38:41,420
[ Male Interviewer ]
What do you think
of the Boston Tea Party?
618
00:38:41,453 --> 00:38:43,822
I thought it was wonderful!
Wow. Thank you.
619
00:38:43,855 --> 00:38:45,657
Thank you.
620
00:38:45,691 --> 00:38:48,660
Fifty cents!
Read all about it!
621
00:38:48,694 --> 00:38:51,797
I think people have
a very Pollyanna viewpoint
of social change.
622
00:38:51,830 --> 00:38:53,599
[ Crowd Shouting ]
623
00:38:53,632 --> 00:38:56,935
No real social change
has happened without pressure,
624
00:38:56,968 --> 00:38:58,637
without force, without--
625
00:38:58,670 --> 00:39:03,074
some would say-- intimidating
governments and corporations
into changing their behavior.
626
00:39:03,108 --> 00:39:06,344
[ Shouting Continues ]
627
00:39:07,779 --> 00:39:09,748
[ Laughs ]
628
00:39:09,781 --> 00:39:12,684
Oh, it's so weird
to talk about this stuff.
Um--
629
00:39:12,718 --> 00:39:16,522
I took part
in the black bloc at W.T.O.
630
00:39:16,555 --> 00:39:18,557
And the goal
of the black bloc...
631
00:39:18,590 --> 00:39:20,959
was to just send a message,
an anticapitalist message...
632
00:39:20,992 --> 00:39:24,863
that consumer America
is destroying the world
and destroying the planet.
633
00:39:27,699 --> 00:39:29,868
And that was
the first time we met
a lot of the other people...
634
00:39:29,901 --> 00:39:32,471
that ended up being
involved in the arsons.
635
00:39:37,709 --> 00:39:40,879
[ Daniel ]
After the W.T.O.,
I decided to move to Eugene...
636
00:39:40,912 --> 00:39:43,882
to keep in touch
with some of these people
that I met in Seattle.
637
00:39:45,451 --> 00:39:47,719
And I started becoming
a really different person.
638
00:39:47,753 --> 00:39:50,622
[ Savoie ]
Daniel was very involved
in the issues...
639
00:39:50,656 --> 00:39:52,791
and ideas surrounding Eugene.
640
00:39:52,824 --> 00:39:55,494
He was very social.
He seemed
to know everybody,
641
00:39:55,527 --> 00:39:59,631
and everybody
seemed to know him,
including the cops.
642
00:39:59,665 --> 00:40:04,870
Daniel was kind of known
as a leader around the area.
643
00:40:04,903 --> 00:40:07,105
Um, you know,
644
00:40:07,138 --> 00:40:10,609
he would show up
at protests or gatherings,
645
00:40:10,642 --> 00:40:13,579
and you can always see
that he was somebody
that people looked up to.
646
00:40:13,612 --> 00:40:16,214
You know, you see
who's serious and who's not...
647
00:40:16,247 --> 00:40:18,517
based on how they're acting,
what they're saying.
648
00:40:18,550 --> 00:40:20,819
And so somewhere along the line
it became obvious...
649
00:40:20,852 --> 00:40:22,954
that, like, I was someone
that was interested
in doing other stuff.
650
00:40:23,989 --> 00:40:26,758
I met Jake in the neighborhood.
651
00:40:26,792 --> 00:40:31,229
There was some allure
about him just being
quiet and kind of to himself.
652
00:40:31,262 --> 00:40:33,965
And being there really
set some things in motion.
653
00:40:47,979 --> 00:40:51,550
The more radical environmental
community have, in my opinion,
654
00:40:51,583 --> 00:40:54,486
a misconception about
this industry and what we do.
655
00:40:59,925 --> 00:41:02,494
[ Swanson ]
It's more than just a job.
656
00:41:02,528 --> 00:41:05,030
You know,
I'm a third-generation
lumberman.
657
00:41:05,063 --> 00:41:07,132
My son works
in the industry.
658
00:41:07,165 --> 00:41:11,002
I want him to carry on,
and when he has kids,
I want them to carry on.
659
00:41:13,839 --> 00:41:18,510
You can't be
in the lumber industry
without having trees to cut.
660
00:41:18,544 --> 00:41:22,147
So it's ridiculous for people
to think we're gonna go out
there and cut the last tree.
661
00:41:24,015 --> 00:41:27,085
[ Man ]
I think the biggest
misconception is that...
662
00:41:27,118 --> 00:41:30,188
we're out there
just knocking the forest down,
663
00:41:30,221 --> 00:41:33,792
we're just-- we're termites.
664
00:41:33,825 --> 00:41:38,764
We just rampage through
the forest and we leave it
a mess and we move on.
665
00:41:38,797 --> 00:41:40,832
[ Swanson ]
Does it have an impact?
Certainly.
666
00:41:40,866 --> 00:41:43,969
Nobody likes the looks
of a fresh harvest.
667
00:41:44,002 --> 00:41:46,304
But we really do
regrow these trees.
668
00:41:46,337 --> 00:41:48,840
You know, we plant six trees
for every tree we harvest.
669
00:41:48,874 --> 00:41:51,677
That's the law.
I mean, it's just
flat-out the law.
670
00:41:51,710 --> 00:41:55,547
And people don't break the law.
You just can't get away with it
in Oregon or anyplace else.
671
00:41:55,581 --> 00:41:57,983
Being an environmentalist
is simply respecting the land...
672
00:41:58,016 --> 00:42:00,285
and the atmosphere around you.
673
00:42:00,318 --> 00:42:02,954
In that regard,
I'm an environmentalist.
674
00:42:06,291 --> 00:42:10,896
[ Daniel ]
Eugene has a commercial railroad
that goes through town.
675
00:42:10,929 --> 00:42:12,864
[ Crossing Bell Dinging ]
676
00:42:12,898 --> 00:42:15,333
It wasn't uncommon to see
just, like, plywood
after plywood...
677
00:42:15,366 --> 00:42:18,269
and company names, you know,
stamped onto it.
678
00:42:20,071 --> 00:42:22,874
That's definitely how I heard
about Superior Lumber.
679
00:42:22,908 --> 00:42:27,178
Just by seeing
their half-mile-long train
full of forest go by.
680
00:42:32,718 --> 00:42:36,121
They were logging old growth,
logging just massive trees,
681
00:42:36,154 --> 00:42:38,757
and out of areas
that had previously been
pretty inaccessible.
682
00:42:41,392 --> 00:42:43,695
Sometimes when you see things
you love being destroyed,
683
00:42:43,729 --> 00:42:46,197
you just want to destroy
those things.
684
00:42:47,866 --> 00:42:50,001
So I felt like the action
was justified.
685
00:42:56,742 --> 00:43:00,779
We were quite surprised
that we had been targeted.
686
00:43:00,812 --> 00:43:03,649
I believe I was invited
to participate
in Superior Lumber...
687
00:43:03,682 --> 00:43:08,053
by Meyerhoff
to be a lookout,
along with Suzanne.
688
00:43:08,086 --> 00:43:12,791
But I met Jacob and Kevin
right before the action--
Kevin Tubbs.
689
00:43:12,824 --> 00:43:16,261
They got together
some weeks before,
did a surveillance of it.
690
00:43:18,163 --> 00:43:20,298
It was in an isolated area.
691
00:43:20,331 --> 00:43:22,167
There was
no viable security there.
692
00:43:24,970 --> 00:43:26,304
They figured out where...
693
00:43:26,337 --> 00:43:29,040
they should place the devices.
694
00:43:29,074 --> 00:43:31,142
They came back
and prepared the devices.
695
00:43:36,314 --> 00:43:38,984
Put them in plastic
Tupperware containers.
696
00:43:39,017 --> 00:43:43,021
Made sure that the containers
were fingerprint-free,
D.N.A. clean.
697
00:43:43,054 --> 00:43:45,090
They always wore gloves.
698
00:43:45,123 --> 00:43:47,392
I felt nervous from the get-go.
For one, we were--
699
00:43:47,425 --> 00:43:50,228
I was staying in this house
where everything was stored.
700
00:43:50,261 --> 00:43:52,430
And it was someone else's house
that didn't know
about the action.
701
00:43:52,463 --> 00:43:55,400
On the night of the arson,
702
00:43:55,433 --> 00:43:58,103
they drove to the staging area.
703
00:43:58,136 --> 00:44:00,806
They put on their masks.
704
00:44:00,839 --> 00:44:04,109
They did radio checks.
They had a police scanner.
705
00:44:04,142 --> 00:44:06,144
It's positively nerve-racking.
706
00:44:06,177 --> 00:44:08,980
I used to get really sick
before actions
and, like, throw up...
707
00:44:09,014 --> 00:44:12,383
and just get, like, nervous
and, like, just in a zone,
you know.
708
00:44:12,417 --> 00:44:14,152
I mean, I think
that you have to get--
709
00:44:14,185 --> 00:44:18,156
When you're doing something
that intense, even as a lookout,
you're just, like, freaked out,
710
00:44:18,189 --> 00:44:20,792
'cause you just don't know
how anything's gonna go.
711
00:44:20,826 --> 00:44:22,861
[ Savoie ]
I was in the back of the van,
712
00:44:22,894 --> 00:44:24,996
and I was actually
kind of by myself
in the back of the van,
713
00:44:25,030 --> 00:44:27,098
so I was just
kind of thinking to myself,
714
00:44:27,132 --> 00:44:30,335
and I think Kevin and Jake
were in the front
of the van.
715
00:44:30,368 --> 00:44:33,438
They were just listening
to music, and so it was
fairly relaxed.
716
00:44:33,471 --> 00:44:36,775
People weren't really talking
a whole lot, but, you know,
your adrenaline's going.
717
00:44:36,808 --> 00:44:39,911
Miss Savoie and Mr. McGowan
were the lookouts,
718
00:44:39,945 --> 00:44:43,048
and they staged north
and south of the building.
719
00:44:44,515 --> 00:44:48,720
[ Savoie ]
I was stationed at a pay phone.
720
00:44:48,754 --> 00:44:51,022
You know, everybody else
was dressed in all black...
721
00:44:51,056 --> 00:44:55,293
because everyone wanted
to blend into the night.
722
00:44:55,326 --> 00:44:59,397
However, I dressed
in somewhat darker clothing,
but I looked fairly normal.
723
00:44:59,430 --> 00:45:03,001
I just had a scarf that
I could wrap around my face
in case somebody passed by.
724
00:45:03,034 --> 00:45:05,737
And then I got dropped off
kind of on the side of the road,
725
00:45:05,771 --> 00:45:08,206
and I just kinda crawled
into this, like, space,
726
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:11,509
this, like, shoulder, you know,
with a bunch of ivy.
727
00:45:11,542 --> 00:45:15,213
Mr. Meyerhoff and Mr. Ferguson
then placed...
728
00:45:15,246 --> 00:45:17,348
the five-gallon
fuel containers...
729
00:45:17,382 --> 00:45:19,751
and activated
the timing devices.
730
00:45:19,785 --> 00:45:22,287
It was done within,
you know, 15 minutes,
731
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:25,156
and I got picked up,
and away we went.
732
00:45:25,190 --> 00:45:27,225
It was somewhere between
2:00 and 3:00 a.m...
733
00:45:27,258 --> 00:45:30,762
when I was home, sound asleep,
and I got a phone call.
734
00:45:30,796 --> 00:45:32,230
And, of course, anytime
you get a phone call...
735
00:45:32,263 --> 00:45:35,466
at 2:00 a.m. in the morning,
it's not good news.
736
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:54,085
It turned the office
into just a fiery oven.
737
00:45:54,119 --> 00:45:56,554
I mean, I don't know
how hot it got in here,
738
00:45:56,587 --> 00:45:59,090
but we had keyboards
that were--
739
00:45:59,124 --> 00:46:02,027
I mean, you couldn't tell
one key from the other.
They were just melted together.
740
00:46:08,466 --> 00:46:12,537
[ Daniel ]
I went up to Portland and wrote
the communiqué and sent it in.
741
00:46:12,570 --> 00:46:16,274
Even then, it wasn't real.
It was just still kind of
this cartoonish thing.
742
00:46:16,307 --> 00:46:19,911
And it wasn't real until
I really saw the newspapers--
743
00:46:19,945 --> 00:46:22,447
seeing the man
from the company--
I think Steve Swanson--
744
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:27,853
just walking through these,
like, charred remains, and I
was just like, "Holy crap."
745
00:46:27,886 --> 00:46:30,989
That was a major blow
to our mental psyche,
746
00:46:31,022 --> 00:46:33,892
at least in the short run.
747
00:46:33,925 --> 00:46:38,129
Just felt like, you know,
a big hole in my heart.
748
00:46:38,163 --> 00:46:40,565
[ Lewis ]
In Eugene, people were jazzed.
749
00:46:40,598 --> 00:46:43,334
When the big, bad bully gets,
you know, hit in the stomach...
750
00:46:43,368 --> 00:46:45,003
and feels a little something...
751
00:46:45,036 --> 00:46:49,407
and maybe a little
fear or whatever,
that felt good.
752
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:54,312
It was exciting.
The next day, I felt,
you know, like,
753
00:46:54,345 --> 00:46:58,083
"Wow. I've actually done
something where it stopped."
754
00:46:58,116 --> 00:47:00,618
I didn't have a problem
with what I was doing.
I thought it was effective.
755
00:47:00,651 --> 00:47:03,421
It was a million dollars
or something like that.
756
00:47:03,454 --> 00:47:06,491
You know,
757
00:47:06,524 --> 00:47:09,627
it's like, when
you're involved with it
and you're in the thick of it,
758
00:47:09,660 --> 00:47:11,529
it's hard to look at, like,
all the consequences...
759
00:47:11,562 --> 00:47:13,331
and, like, the real
repercussions of that.
760
00:47:13,364 --> 00:47:17,468
Like, you know,
did this action push them
in a better direction?
761
00:47:17,502 --> 00:47:19,604
Did it scare them?
762
00:47:19,637 --> 00:47:23,641
Did it help the movement
in any capacity
on old-growth logging?
763
00:47:23,674 --> 00:47:25,643
There's lots of questions,
but I don't think at the time...
764
00:47:25,676 --> 00:47:27,946
I was asking
those questions too much.
765
00:47:34,986 --> 00:47:37,488
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Totally.
766
00:47:37,522 --> 00:47:40,191
All right.
Well, um, that's great.
767
00:47:40,225 --> 00:47:42,493
I guess I'll see you
in a little bit.
Okay. Bye.
768
00:47:44,229 --> 00:47:48,033
Yes!
[ Whooshes, Imitates Fanfare ]
769
00:47:48,066 --> 00:47:49,267
Awesome!
770
00:47:49,300 --> 00:47:51,169
All right, that's great.
I'm off the system.
771
00:47:51,202 --> 00:47:53,571
I am off house arrest
technically right now.
772
00:47:55,173 --> 00:47:58,043
Hey. I'm off.
773
00:47:59,044 --> 00:48:00,411
Sweet!
774
00:48:00,445 --> 00:48:02,647
Seven months and two days.
775
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:04,649
[ Narrator ]
With seven months
of good behavior,
776
00:48:04,682 --> 00:48:08,186
Daniel's lawyers have convinced
the government that he's not
a flight risk.
777
00:48:08,219 --> 00:48:10,255
What do you think
about that?
778
00:48:10,288 --> 00:48:11,923
I think I'm gonna
stay in tonight.
779
00:48:13,358 --> 00:48:15,626
[ Laughing ]
No, I'm joking.
Are you kidding me?
780
00:48:15,660 --> 00:48:18,096
I don't care how tired I am.
We're doing something.
781
00:48:32,310 --> 00:48:35,080
[ Daniel ]
Of course I'm gonna get off
house arrest on this day.
782
00:48:35,113 --> 00:48:37,182
Like, of all days, like,
it'll be today, you know.
783
00:48:39,750 --> 00:48:42,120
It's really sad
for me to, like,
784
00:48:42,153 --> 00:48:44,522
have all these feelings about
my home being attacked,
785
00:48:44,555 --> 00:48:48,193
my city being attacked.
786
00:48:48,226 --> 00:48:52,097
I mean, when I tell people
that, like, I'm accused
of being a terrorist, like,
787
00:48:52,130 --> 00:48:54,299
whether it's "eco" or
"domestic" in front of it,
788
00:48:54,332 --> 00:48:56,968
or if it's just
straight "terrorist,"
it's ludicrous to me.
789
00:48:57,002 --> 00:49:00,738
It's, like, surreal.
And most people that know me
are like, "What?"
790
00:49:00,771 --> 00:49:03,441
No one's accused
in my case of flying planes,
791
00:49:03,474 --> 00:49:05,743
bombing things,
trying to hurt people.
792
00:49:05,776 --> 00:49:08,646
None of these things.
No one's accused of that.
793
00:49:08,679 --> 00:49:11,682
It's property destruction.
Like, that's what it is.
Call it what it is, you know.
794
00:49:11,716 --> 00:49:14,619
It's gone! Yay!
795
00:49:14,652 --> 00:49:16,287
I look naked, right?
You did it!
796
00:49:16,321 --> 00:49:18,123
How you doing?
Okay. How you doing?
797
00:49:18,156 --> 00:49:20,058
Look at
my freak-ass ankle.
798
00:49:20,091 --> 00:49:23,694
I actually ran a little bit
'cause I wanted to feel
what it was like to run.
799
00:49:23,728 --> 00:49:25,463
I'm so tired.
[ Laughing ]
800
00:49:25,496 --> 00:49:27,065
My feet hurt,
my legs hurt.
801
00:49:27,098 --> 00:49:29,134
I just had a knee pain.
It was horrible.
802
00:49:37,808 --> 00:49:41,379
As time went on,
the cell members...
803
00:49:41,412 --> 00:49:43,514
had to become better
and better and better
at their craft.
804
00:49:43,548 --> 00:49:46,451
And their craft was
destruction.
805
00:49:49,254 --> 00:49:51,989
And so they started
what was called the "book club."
806
00:49:55,226 --> 00:50:00,665
They would train one another
on how to build
incendiary devices.
807
00:50:06,137 --> 00:50:09,040
And they would go out
and test all these things.
808
00:50:09,074 --> 00:50:11,109
So they knew
how long it would take--
809
00:50:11,142 --> 00:50:13,811
You know, at this time of night
and this kind of weather,
810
00:50:13,844 --> 00:50:16,181
how long will it take
for this thing to ignite?
811
00:50:17,648 --> 00:50:20,017
What type of fuel
would work the best?
812
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:25,056
They wouldn't buy
all the ingredients
from the same store.
813
00:50:25,090 --> 00:50:28,659
Even if the same store
had the two or three items
that they'd need,
814
00:50:28,693 --> 00:50:32,330
they would go to a completely
different store, you know,
815
00:50:32,363 --> 00:50:36,534
30, 40 miles away
so it wouldn't ever be tracked.
816
00:50:36,567 --> 00:50:42,407
It was called the book club
because they also
utilized certain codes.
817
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:44,842
At the meeting they were told,
"This is the book
we'll be using."
818
00:50:44,875 --> 00:50:47,778
And then you'd have
to use your book...
819
00:50:47,812 --> 00:50:50,281
that would associate
what page number,
820
00:50:50,315 --> 00:50:53,251
what line number,
what word number,
821
00:50:53,284 --> 00:50:56,254
and that's how you would
decode the message
to tell you where to go.
822
00:50:56,287 --> 00:50:58,389
And some of the members
of the book club then...
823
00:50:58,423 --> 00:51:01,426
were well versed
in computer sciences,
824
00:51:01,459 --> 00:51:05,696
and they brought in P.G.P.
encryption and showed the other
members how to do that.
825
00:51:05,730 --> 00:51:09,567
There was a lot of, like,
having good covers
for why you're leaving town.
826
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:12,537
Why you're not--
You know,
where you're going.
827
00:51:12,570 --> 00:51:15,406
Having really good stories
that made sense,
that were consistent,
828
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:18,376
that you told everyone--
your job, your family,
everything.
829
00:51:18,409 --> 00:51:22,513
Not dressing
like activists per se.
830
00:51:22,547 --> 00:51:25,416
We didn't really look like what
you'd think we would look like.
831
00:51:25,450 --> 00:51:27,585
I mean, if you saw people
walking down the street,
832
00:51:27,618 --> 00:51:29,587
you would never think,
"That's the E.L.F."
833
00:51:29,620 --> 00:51:32,323
It made a lot of sense of why
there wasn't any evidence,
834
00:51:32,357 --> 00:51:34,859
why they weren't caught sooner.
835
00:51:34,892 --> 00:51:38,363
They were really good
at what they did.
836
00:51:41,266 --> 00:51:43,468
[ Narrator ]
In May of 2001,
837
00:51:43,501 --> 00:51:46,904
members of the E.L.F.
launched an attack
against two sites at once,
838
00:51:46,937 --> 00:51:49,340
a first for the organization.
839
00:51:49,374 --> 00:51:53,378
The first target was an office
at the University of Washington,
840
00:51:53,411 --> 00:51:56,681
where a scientist
was doing genetic research
on trees...
841
00:51:56,714 --> 00:51:59,384
with a grant from
the timber industry.
842
00:51:59,417 --> 00:52:03,221
The second target was the
Jefferson Poplar Tree Farm,
843
00:52:03,254 --> 00:52:05,523
where the group believed
that genetically
engineered trees...
844
00:52:05,556 --> 00:52:07,725
were being developed
for paper production.
845
00:52:08,826 --> 00:52:10,561
In the previous arson,
846
00:52:10,595 --> 00:52:12,430
Daniel had been a lookout.
847
00:52:12,463 --> 00:52:15,900
But this time
he took a much more active role.
848
00:52:15,933 --> 00:52:17,668
They rented a motel room.
849
00:52:17,702 --> 00:52:20,405
They set up a tent
inside the motel room.
850
00:52:20,438 --> 00:52:23,574
They put on painter suits,
triple-thick gloves.
851
00:52:23,608 --> 00:52:25,443
They made the devices.
852
00:52:25,476 --> 00:52:27,878
One team went to
University of Washington,
853
00:52:27,912 --> 00:52:31,649
and the other team traveled
down to Clatskanie in Oregon,
854
00:52:31,682 --> 00:52:33,651
to Jefferson Poplar Farms.
855
00:52:33,684 --> 00:52:35,653
[ Daniel ]
Clatskanie is
a really small town.
856
00:52:35,686 --> 00:52:38,689
We were desperately trying
to avoid a traffic stop,
857
00:52:38,723 --> 00:52:41,959
because it's just, like,
we're pretty much screwed
if we got stopped.
858
00:52:41,992 --> 00:52:44,495
There's way too many
people in the car
dressed in all black.
859
00:52:44,529 --> 00:52:48,333
The driver of the vehicle
was Miss Savoie.
860
00:52:48,366 --> 00:52:50,635
Miss Zacher served as a lookout.
861
00:52:50,668 --> 00:52:52,537
And then the three men,
862
00:52:52,570 --> 00:52:56,807
which was Mr. Meyerhoff,
Mr. McGowan and Mr. Block,
863
00:52:56,841 --> 00:53:01,379
took the fuel loads
and the timers to the targets.
864
00:53:01,412 --> 00:53:04,749
We checked that no one's there.
Like, climb around, look around.
No one's in there.
865
00:53:04,782 --> 00:53:06,417
We'd been there previous.
No one's there.
866
00:53:06,451 --> 00:53:08,719
The cleaning ladies were there,
like, much earlier.
867
00:53:08,753 --> 00:53:12,690
We set up all the devices
and all the buckets.
868
00:53:12,723 --> 00:53:15,993
They put little tubs
full of fuel...
869
00:53:16,026 --> 00:53:19,397
underneath the vehicles,
and they put soaked rags,
870
00:53:19,430 --> 00:53:22,367
and they'd run the rags
from vehicle to vehicle
to vehicle.
871
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:25,403
And the towel just goes and goes
and it goes and it goes.
872
00:53:25,436 --> 00:53:28,773
And it's tied together--
sheets-- and it's just
an absolute mess.
873
00:53:28,806 --> 00:53:32,810
They were careful to take
the trucks with the fuel tanks,
874
00:53:32,843 --> 00:53:35,613
fill the beds of the vehicles
with fuel.
875
00:53:35,646 --> 00:53:39,450
[ Daniel ]
I'm standing there.
I'm drenched in gasoline.
876
00:53:39,484 --> 00:53:42,287
We're about to burn
13 huge S.U.V.'s,
877
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:44,655
and I was just, like,
"What am I doing?"
878
00:53:45,890 --> 00:53:47,625
But we take spray paint.
879
00:53:47,658 --> 00:53:50,428
Myself and another person
go out to the shed,
880
00:53:50,461 --> 00:53:53,431
and I write "E.L.F." on one side
in pretty huge letters,
881
00:53:53,464 --> 00:53:55,866
and the other person writes
"You cannot control
what is wild."
882
00:54:01,772 --> 00:54:06,877
There's the "E,"
"L," and "F."
883
00:54:08,579 --> 00:54:11,716
Everything was basically
fully engulfed
when I got here.
884
00:54:11,749 --> 00:54:14,452
With all the vehicles
and the fuel tanks...
885
00:54:14,485 --> 00:54:19,924
and so forth, there was lots
of propellant in the area...
886
00:54:19,957 --> 00:54:22,560
to make things burn,
and things went up
fast and hot.
887
00:54:22,593 --> 00:54:24,329
[ Siren Wailing ]
888
00:54:24,362 --> 00:54:26,631
[ Female Operator ]
911. What is your emergency?
889
00:54:26,664 --> 00:54:29,767
[ Man ] Ma'am, we've got
a big fire over here--
[ Continues, Indistinct ]
890
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:32,470
[ Operator ]
Okay.
891
00:54:32,503 --> 00:54:35,406
Investigators
in the Pacific Northwest...
892
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:39,677
strongly suspect that
two nearly simultaneous fires...
893
00:54:39,710 --> 00:54:41,846
were acts
of ecological terror.
894
00:54:43,113 --> 00:54:45,316
Monday morning, May 24,
895
00:54:45,350 --> 00:54:47,618
I got back to Eugene,
and I was just, like,
896
00:54:47,652 --> 00:54:49,987
"Wow, I really need to think
about what I just did."
897
00:54:51,456 --> 00:54:54,525
Just seeing, you know,
absolute ruins...
898
00:54:54,559 --> 00:54:57,795
and realizing that,
like, all people
were gonna focus on...
899
00:54:57,828 --> 00:54:59,897
was the fact that things
were destroyed,
900
00:54:59,930 --> 00:55:01,566
and that the issues
are being lost...
901
00:55:01,599 --> 00:55:05,002
and all they care about is
catching the people that did it.
902
00:55:05,035 --> 00:55:07,338
They were talking about
Jefferson Poplar,
903
00:55:07,372 --> 00:55:09,474
and then they were talking
about University of Washington.
904
00:55:09,507 --> 00:55:12,042
So finding out
what eventually happened
at University of Washington--
905
00:55:12,076 --> 00:55:15,813
the massive
destruction to a library.
906
00:55:15,846 --> 00:55:18,883
Not just the professor's office
that was involved in this
sort of research,
907
00:55:18,916 --> 00:55:20,918
but the Center
for Urban Horticulture.
908
00:55:20,951 --> 00:55:24,889
I was like,
"This is too much, too fast,
too big. What am I doing?"
909
00:55:24,922 --> 00:55:26,591
[ Narrator ]
Not only had the fire...
910
00:55:26,624 --> 00:55:29,927
at the University
of Washington gotten
out of control,
911
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:32,463
they also discovered that
the Jefferson Poplar arson...
912
00:55:32,497 --> 00:55:35,633
was based on faulty information.
913
00:55:35,666 --> 00:55:38,102
It turned out
that while the previous owners
of the property...
914
00:55:38,135 --> 00:55:40,605
had been involved
with genetic engineering,
915
00:55:40,638 --> 00:55:43,641
the new owners
only had hybrid trees,
916
00:55:43,674 --> 00:55:47,578
developed using farming methods
that have been around
for hundreds of years.
917
00:55:47,612 --> 00:55:50,047
It's hard to really
justify it in hindsight.
918
00:55:51,749 --> 00:55:54,785
Nobody would have targeted
that facility had we known...
919
00:55:54,819 --> 00:55:58,523
that there was
no genetic engineering
going on there at the time.
920
00:55:58,556 --> 00:56:00,791
So it left me with
a really bad taste in my mouth.
921
00:56:00,825 --> 00:56:03,761
Kind of like,
"Wow. Look at this huge,
intense action.
922
00:56:03,794 --> 00:56:06,063
And look what happened
in Washington."
923
00:56:06,096 --> 00:56:07,732
And like,
"Am I really ready for this?"
924
00:56:07,765 --> 00:56:10,468
Like, this is super serious
and super big.
925
00:56:10,501 --> 00:56:12,637
We went to the meeting
a few weeks afterwards,
926
00:56:12,670 --> 00:56:15,072
and I was like,
"This is too much."
927
00:56:15,105 --> 00:56:18,075
[ Narrator ]
Some members of the group were
questioning the actions,
928
00:56:18,108 --> 00:56:21,178
but there were others who felt
they hadn't gone far enough.
929
00:56:21,211 --> 00:56:26,617
Some of them decided
that they wanted to target
basically captains of industry.
930
00:56:26,651 --> 00:56:30,455
Target people now,
not just property.
931
00:56:30,488 --> 00:56:32,657
The last circle meeting...
932
00:56:32,690 --> 00:56:35,826
basically cleaved between
people that seemingly...
933
00:56:35,860 --> 00:56:38,496
wanted to talk about it--
not even, like, plan it--
934
00:56:38,529 --> 00:56:40,164
But they were like,
"We should talk about it."
935
00:56:40,197 --> 00:56:42,166
And the people
that were repulsed by it.
936
00:56:42,199 --> 00:56:44,802
And really that, like,
ideological divide is what
ended it.
937
00:56:44,835 --> 00:56:47,204
That was-- That was it.
938
00:56:47,237 --> 00:56:50,074
What people were discussing,
with my experiences
of the arson--
939
00:56:50,107 --> 00:56:54,745
it made my mind
kind of like... spin.
940
00:56:54,779 --> 00:56:58,616
It's things like this
that led me to think
this is futile.
941
00:56:58,649 --> 00:57:00,985
There's gotta be better ways
of addressing what's
going on in the world...
942
00:57:01,018 --> 00:57:02,753
than just burning things down.
943
00:57:02,787 --> 00:57:05,890
[ Narrator ]
As the E.L.F. cell
was dissolving,
944
00:57:05,923 --> 00:57:10,127
the larger activist community in
Eugene was splintering as well.
945
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:12,630
I think people
were self-righteous.
946
00:57:12,663 --> 00:57:14,965
I think people thought
they knew they had the answer.
947
00:57:14,999 --> 00:57:17,635
Weren't willing to listen
to other points of view...
948
00:57:17,668 --> 00:57:20,605
because their view
is more radical
than that point of view.
949
00:57:20,638 --> 00:57:23,207
All those things
came into play, I think,
950
00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:26,043
to help narrow
the amount of people...
951
00:57:26,076 --> 00:57:28,779
that were connected
within the movement...
952
00:57:28,813 --> 00:57:31,015
to the point where
it just went-- poof!
953
00:57:31,048 --> 00:57:32,917
Doesn't exist anymore.
954
00:57:32,950 --> 00:57:35,953
That's one really
sad thing about--
955
00:57:35,986 --> 00:57:38,155
you know, about a lot
of social movements,
956
00:57:38,188 --> 00:57:40,190
but, you know, I think
ours especially,
957
00:57:40,224 --> 00:57:43,761
because we all
are so critical...
958
00:57:43,794 --> 00:57:46,864
of the world
and of the way people
live in the world...
959
00:57:46,897 --> 00:57:49,534
and how they interact
with the natural world,
960
00:57:49,567 --> 00:57:52,737
that we sometimes
are extremely critical
on each other.
961
00:57:52,770 --> 00:57:57,241
And that is definitely
part of our downfall
as-- as a movement.
962
00:57:57,274 --> 00:58:01,679
[ Daniel ]
The scene was really
imploding there at the time.
963
00:58:01,712 --> 00:58:06,584
And I, um-- I took a small trip
to New York for my sister's
35th birthday.
964
00:58:06,617 --> 00:58:10,054
And, um, I hung out
with my family, and I was like,
"Wow, I really love my family."
965
00:58:10,087 --> 00:58:13,758
I forgot that I--
Like, I just grew so
disconnected from them.
966
00:58:13,791 --> 00:58:16,694
And I met Jenny.
967
00:58:16,727 --> 00:58:19,930
And I was like,
"All right, I think I'm gonna
move back to New York."
968
00:58:19,964 --> 00:58:21,866
[ Narrator ]
After moving home,
969
00:58:21,899 --> 00:58:24,802
Daniel began working at
the Rainforest Foundation.
970
00:58:24,835 --> 00:58:28,873
He organized protests against
the Republican Convention,
971
00:58:28,906 --> 00:58:32,242
and finally he took a job at a
domestic violence organization,
972
00:58:32,276 --> 00:58:34,078
where he was working
when he was arrested.
973
00:58:37,615 --> 00:58:40,117
[ Train Bells Ringing ]
974
00:58:44,922 --> 00:58:47,692
The E.L.F. fires
in the Northwest had stopped,
975
00:58:47,725 --> 00:58:50,928
but the government continued
to work on the case.
976
00:58:50,961 --> 00:58:54,298
We had a war room basically.
It was a situation room.
977
00:58:54,331 --> 00:58:56,166
We worked it
and worked it and worked it.
978
00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:58,302
We had diagrams
all over the walls,
979
00:58:58,335 --> 00:59:02,573
we had our flowcharts,
and we had pictures of all
our target suspects up there.
980
00:59:02,607 --> 00:59:06,210
What's different on TV
that's not realistic...
981
00:59:06,243 --> 00:59:09,747
is that everything is
solved in 50 minutes, you know?
982
00:59:09,780 --> 00:59:11,682
And that's not
what happens here.
983
00:59:11,716 --> 00:59:14,619
[ Narrator ]
Three years after Daniel
moved back to New York,
984
00:59:14,652 --> 00:59:17,187
the government had still
turned up no viable suspects.
985
00:59:17,221 --> 00:59:22,159
We came together
and decided that we would take
a cold-case approach...
986
00:59:22,192 --> 00:59:28,232
on one arson to see if
we can turn any suspects
in that particular arson.
987
00:59:28,265 --> 00:59:31,969
And the arson we chose
was one that occurred
in the city of Eugene,
988
00:59:32,002 --> 00:59:34,705
and it was the
Joe Romania Truck Center arson,
989
00:59:34,739 --> 00:59:38,108
wherein which 35 S.U.V.'s
were burned to the ground.
990
00:59:45,950 --> 00:59:48,686
[ Narrator ]
The new investigation yielded
a number of clues,
991
00:59:48,719 --> 00:59:51,622
which pointed the government
toward one local activist.
992
00:59:51,656 --> 00:59:57,061
The night of Romania,
Jake Ferguson was accused
of stealing a truck,
993
00:59:57,094 --> 00:59:59,630
which was kind of
interesting, you know--
994
00:59:59,664 --> 01:00:02,332
the truck would
be needed for something
like what occurred.
995
01:00:02,366 --> 01:00:06,103
We also knew
that Josephine Overaker...
996
01:00:06,136 --> 01:00:08,238
was arrested
in the Olympia area...
997
01:00:08,272 --> 01:00:11,642
just prior to an arson
that occurred up there.
998
01:00:11,676 --> 01:00:14,378
And we knew that her boyfriend
was Jacob Ferguson.
999
01:00:14,411 --> 01:00:17,047
And that's when we really
turned the heat up.
1000
01:00:17,081 --> 01:00:19,316
[ Narrator ]
With Jake now on their radar,
1001
01:00:19,349 --> 01:00:21,351
they began
following him everywhere,
1002
01:00:21,385 --> 01:00:23,120
asking people about him...
1003
01:00:23,153 --> 01:00:26,190
and bringing his friends
in for questioning
before grand juries.
1004
01:00:27,925 --> 01:00:32,096
You know, you'd start seeing
cars following you, and...
1005
01:00:32,129 --> 01:00:34,765
cars with guys
sitting outside...
1006
01:00:34,799 --> 01:00:38,235
where you're staying,
you know, and--
1007
01:00:38,268 --> 01:00:43,307
It was really scary, you know,
to think that they were kind of
on the right track, you know,
1008
01:00:43,340 --> 01:00:46,677
and that they're just kind of
right there behind you.
1009
01:00:46,711 --> 01:00:51,381
And he's also a drug user,
and so that adds to paranoia.
1010
01:00:51,415 --> 01:00:54,184
"They know," you know.
"They're coming for me."
1011
01:00:54,218 --> 01:00:56,687
And, of course,
in Jake's case,
1012
01:00:56,721 --> 01:00:58,889
some of it was true, where
when he did turn around,
1013
01:00:58,923 --> 01:01:01,959
there were law enforcement
following him.
1014
01:01:01,992 --> 01:01:04,695
So lightning was striking
all around him.
1015
01:01:04,729 --> 01:01:09,867
And with that in mind,
we gave him an out.
1016
01:01:09,900 --> 01:01:12,269
We called him in
to the United States
Attorney's Office.
1017
01:01:12,302 --> 01:01:15,205
We were in
a conference room there.
1018
01:01:15,239 --> 01:01:17,808
And then we explained to him
quite simply...
1019
01:01:17,842 --> 01:01:20,310
that we knew
what his situation was.
1020
01:01:20,344 --> 01:01:23,413
[ Narrator ]
They told him they knew
he was a heroin addict...
1021
01:01:23,447 --> 01:01:26,884
and that he'd lied
to an investigator,
which was a felony.
1022
01:01:26,917 --> 01:01:28,753
And then, they bluffed.
1023
01:01:29,854 --> 01:01:32,022
Despite a lack
of hard evidence,
1024
01:01:32,056 --> 01:01:35,025
they led him to believe
that they could tie him
to the E.L.F. arsons.
1025
01:01:35,059 --> 01:01:38,362
We never told Jake Ferguson
or his lawyer what we knew
or didn't know.
1026
01:01:38,395 --> 01:01:40,164
That's--
You never do that.
1027
01:01:40,197 --> 01:01:43,067
Could we have really
put him away
for a long time?
1028
01:01:43,100 --> 01:01:44,835
At this-- that point,
probably not.
1029
01:01:44,869 --> 01:01:48,105
[ Narrator ]
They told him that the arsons
carried a life sentence,
1030
01:01:48,138 --> 01:01:51,942
but if he became an informant,
they'd let him walk away
from his crimes.
1031
01:01:51,976 --> 01:01:56,213
I described to him, tried to
paint an image of him...
1032
01:01:56,246 --> 01:01:59,416
walking through the forest
on a road...
1033
01:01:59,449 --> 01:02:04,021
some sunny summer afternoon
hand-in-hand with his son,
1034
01:02:04,054 --> 01:02:08,092
instead of looking
at his son through
bulletproof glass.
1035
01:02:08,125 --> 01:02:11,228
And he thought about it.
1036
01:02:11,261 --> 01:02:15,399
And at that particular
point in time, then...
1037
01:02:15,432 --> 01:02:17,968
he and his lawyer excused
themselves and left and said,
1038
01:02:18,002 --> 01:02:20,337
"Well, we'll get back
to you in a day or so."
1039
01:02:20,370 --> 01:02:23,073
You know, he grew up
with his dad in prison...
1040
01:02:23,107 --> 01:02:26,143
and he saw how bad
that life was.
1041
01:02:26,176 --> 01:02:29,346
He didn't want to spend
the rest of his life in prison,
1042
01:02:29,379 --> 01:02:34,084
uh, and have his son,
you know, never see his dad.
1043
01:02:34,118 --> 01:02:37,521
Twenty minutes later,
I get a call from downstairs,
1044
01:02:37,554 --> 01:02:40,290
and Mr. Ferguson
and his lawyer want
to come up and talk to us.
1045
01:02:40,324 --> 01:02:43,360
And so they came up
and they said,
1046
01:02:43,393 --> 01:02:47,865
"We would like
to consider cooperation.
What do we need to do?"
1047
01:02:47,898 --> 01:02:51,168
So, that was--
when we found out that he was
willing to cooperate,
1048
01:02:51,201 --> 01:02:54,138
that was one of
the best days I've ever had.
1049
01:02:54,171 --> 01:02:56,841
So he started listing off...
1050
01:02:56,874 --> 01:02:59,576
all the things that
he had information about,
1051
01:02:59,609 --> 01:03:02,847
and that basically
was every arson in
the district of Oregon,
1052
01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:05,382
arsons in Washington state,
1053
01:03:05,415 --> 01:03:09,053
arsons in Wyoming,
arsons in Colorado, California.
1054
01:03:09,086 --> 01:03:13,824
We did not know the scope, um,
of what he had knowledge of.
1055
01:03:13,858 --> 01:03:17,061
So that's when the investigation
really kind of broke open.
1056
01:03:17,094 --> 01:03:23,533
The team immediately grew
from 12 or 13, to 40,
to 300 agents.
1057
01:03:23,567 --> 01:03:28,505
[ Narrator ]
After debriefing Jake about the
14 fires he'd been involved in,
1058
01:03:28,538 --> 01:03:31,308
the government
had a problem.
1059
01:03:31,341 --> 01:03:34,378
They knew that a heroin addict
with a pentagram tattoo
on his head...
1060
01:03:34,411 --> 01:03:37,081
would not make
a persuasive witness in court.
1061
01:03:37,114 --> 01:03:40,050
And so they needed
corroborating evidence.
1062
01:03:40,084 --> 01:03:43,353
We talked to him and his lawyer,
and we said,
1063
01:03:43,387 --> 01:03:46,423
"Okay. This is what
we want you to do.
We want you to wear a wire."
1064
01:03:46,456 --> 01:03:49,626
[ Narrator ]
They hid a recording device in
the liner of his baseball cap.
1065
01:03:49,659 --> 01:03:54,398
And over the course
of a year, they flew him
all over the country...
1066
01:03:54,431 --> 01:03:57,935
where they arranged for him
to accidentally bump into
his old friends...
1067
01:03:57,968 --> 01:04:00,504
and get them to reminisce
about the old days.
1068
01:04:00,537 --> 01:04:03,507
He walked into an animal rights
conference I was at...
1069
01:04:03,540 --> 01:04:07,244
in Washington Heights
at Holyrood Church.
1070
01:04:07,277 --> 01:04:08,645
It was bizarre to see him.
1071
01:04:08,678 --> 01:04:11,415
I mean, he was bloated
and kind of fat,
1072
01:04:11,448 --> 01:04:14,318
and just looked
really different.
1073
01:04:14,351 --> 01:04:16,420
Uh, he was talkative,
which was weird,
1074
01:04:16,453 --> 01:04:19,089
'cause I always remembered him
as a really quiet guy,
but he was talkative.
1075
01:04:27,364 --> 01:04:30,200
I went to go get
a coffee with him.
And we just talked a bunch.
1076
01:04:30,234 --> 01:04:31,535
Yeah, it was unfortunate.
1077
01:04:55,392 --> 01:04:58,295
I mean, thinking about it,
I-- I can't help but
be annoyed at myself...
1078
01:04:58,328 --> 01:05:00,998
for being like,
"How did you not know something
was really wrong here?"
1079
01:05:26,190 --> 01:05:29,493
It feels rather foolish,
you know, to have done that,
1080
01:05:29,526 --> 01:05:32,596
but I'm trying to
get over the shame...
1081
01:05:32,629 --> 01:05:36,100
associated with
making dumb mistakes.
1082
01:05:36,133 --> 01:05:38,735
Jake was extremely conflicted.
We'd have to pump him up.
1083
01:05:38,768 --> 01:05:41,038
It was like
before a big fight...
1084
01:05:41,071 --> 01:05:45,575
where we sat there with him
for probably half an hour
to an hour...
1085
01:05:45,609 --> 01:05:49,013
just to get him
kind of tuned up...
1086
01:05:49,046 --> 01:05:52,416
and ready to, uh, do it.
1087
01:05:52,449 --> 01:05:55,119
It wasn't something
I felt good about, you know,
1088
01:05:57,487 --> 01:06:01,391
getting people to confess
by wearing a wire, you know.
1089
01:06:01,425 --> 01:06:04,061
But what can you do when
you've already taken the deal,
1090
01:06:04,094 --> 01:06:07,631
and then you've admitted
to doing all these felonies?
1091
01:06:07,664 --> 01:06:11,768
They've got you, you know.
If you do anything to
disagree with the deal,
1092
01:06:11,801 --> 01:06:14,604
the deal's off,
and you've just confessed...
1093
01:06:14,638 --> 01:06:18,142
to, like, you know,
life in prison.
1094
01:06:18,175 --> 01:06:22,179
So once we had
those recordings in place,
1095
01:06:22,212 --> 01:06:26,416
we decided on
a particular takedown date.
1096
01:06:26,450 --> 01:06:30,220
[ Narrator ]
The takedown presented an
enormous logistical challenge.
1097
01:06:30,254 --> 01:06:33,057
The government believed
that the suspects
had to be arrested...
1098
01:06:33,090 --> 01:06:38,028
at exactly the same moment,
or word would get out
and they would go into hiding.
1099
01:06:38,062 --> 01:06:41,431
So teams of federal agents
fanned out across the country.
1100
01:06:41,465 --> 01:06:43,533
[ Harvey ]
I went to New York,
1101
01:06:43,567 --> 01:06:46,703
and we stayed out on
Daniel McGowan's house until--
1102
01:06:46,736 --> 01:06:48,572
God, I think
it was 10:00 or 11:00--
1103
01:06:48,605 --> 01:06:52,709
making sure that he was
gonna be there first thing
in the morning.
1104
01:06:52,742 --> 01:06:55,345
And then we got-- Yeah,
it was not very good sleep.
1105
01:06:56,413 --> 01:06:58,148
[ Narrator ]
The next morning,
1106
01:06:58,182 --> 01:07:02,719
Detective Harvey
and three federal agents
followed Daniel to work.
1107
01:07:02,752 --> 01:07:07,657
[ Daniel ]
I look up, and around the corner
comes these kind of big dudes.
1108
01:07:07,691 --> 01:07:12,096
I just kept feeling wave
after wave of dread and fear,
just kept, you know--
1109
01:07:12,129 --> 01:07:15,532
And I was like--
I could barely talk.
I completely lost my voice.
1110
01:07:15,565 --> 01:07:19,369
Like, I was just--
I could barely move, you know.
It was really horrible.
1111
01:07:19,403 --> 01:07:24,174
And they were like, "You're
being extradited to Oregon
for, you know, E.L.F. charges.
1112
01:07:24,208 --> 01:07:26,276
You should consider pleading.
Don't ruin your family."
1113
01:07:26,310 --> 01:07:27,844
Like all this stuff.
1114
01:07:27,877 --> 01:07:30,414
We would have them
have an attorney.
1115
01:07:30,447 --> 01:07:33,783
We would present the evidence
that we have against them
and say,
1116
01:07:33,817 --> 01:07:40,190
"Here's your opportunity to
become a cooperator, or remain
a defendant. Your choice."
1117
01:07:40,224 --> 01:07:42,326
You know, when you--
when you sit down
with them...
1118
01:07:42,359 --> 01:07:45,562
and you show them
and let them listen
to themselves on tape,
1119
01:07:45,595 --> 01:07:48,298
uh, you can see them
really sink.
1120
01:07:48,332 --> 01:07:50,834
"Uh, okay, I'm done."
1121
01:07:50,867 --> 01:07:55,205
It was a very
successful approach because,
1122
01:07:55,239 --> 01:07:57,674
you know, the dominoes
began to fall.
1123
01:07:57,707 --> 01:08:03,713
I was in bed.
My, uh, husband was up for work.
1124
01:08:03,747 --> 01:08:08,518
It was, uh,
5:00 in the morning.
He gets up early for work.
1125
01:08:08,552 --> 01:08:13,257
And he came into the bedroom
and told me that the F.B.I....
1126
01:08:13,290 --> 01:08:16,126
and the Oregon State Police
were there to talk to me.
1127
01:08:16,160 --> 01:08:19,663
And right away I pretty much
knew what they were there
to talk to me about.
1128
01:08:22,532 --> 01:08:25,835
From there it was
just, um, you know,
1129
01:08:25,869 --> 01:08:28,172
the hardest decision
I ever made in my life--
1130
01:08:28,205 --> 01:08:31,208
whether or not
I should take a plea bargain
and cooperate,
1131
01:08:31,241 --> 01:08:34,611
or risk going to prison
for the rest of my life.
1132
01:08:34,644 --> 01:08:38,548
And I think that probably
will be the hardest decision
I've ever made in my life.
1133
01:08:38,582 --> 01:08:41,851
And, um, I chose to--
1134
01:08:41,885 --> 01:08:45,222
to cooperate
and take the plea bargain...
1135
01:08:45,255 --> 01:08:49,193
so that I could someday,
once again, you know,
be with my loved ones.
1136
01:08:52,496 --> 01:08:58,268
I would have been fully prepared
to have gone away for
five to 10 years, you know.
1137
01:08:58,302 --> 01:09:01,405
I was really looking at
dying alone in prison...
1138
01:09:01,438 --> 01:09:03,873
and knowing that
every single loved one
would have moved on...
1139
01:09:03,907 --> 01:09:06,810
and done something else
in their life.
1140
01:09:06,843 --> 01:09:10,680
It felt like a death sentence,
you know, more than
a life sentence.
1141
01:09:14,251 --> 01:09:17,187
People can judge me
for the decisions I've made.
1142
01:09:17,221 --> 01:09:20,657
But until you've been in
that position it's, you know--
1143
01:09:20,690 --> 01:09:22,526
it's really hard to know
what you would do.
1144
01:09:22,559 --> 01:09:27,331
I never in my life
thought I would be
cooperating with the F.B.I.
1145
01:09:27,364 --> 01:09:30,200
I always thought
that I would be able
to stay strong...
1146
01:09:30,234 --> 01:09:32,236
and stay true to
my values and my beliefs.
1147
01:09:32,269 --> 01:09:36,840
And, you know,
I guess sometimes you aren't
as strong as you think.
1148
01:09:46,750 --> 01:09:49,786
So, um, I don't know
if you're on,
1149
01:09:49,819 --> 01:09:53,357
but can we talk
off camera for a sec?
1150
01:09:53,390 --> 01:09:57,227
[ Narrator ]
Daniel's lawyers have
negotiated a plea bargain.
1151
01:09:57,261 --> 01:10:00,964
While most of
his codefendants have agreed
to testify against each other,
1152
01:10:00,997 --> 01:10:04,934
Daniel and three others have
held out for different terms.
1153
01:10:04,968 --> 01:10:07,937
They'll have to take
responsibility for the arsons,
1154
01:10:07,971 --> 01:10:12,208
but will not be forced to
give information about others,
if they accept the deal.
1155
01:10:24,621 --> 01:10:26,923
[ Chattering ]
1156
01:10:32,796 --> 01:10:36,833
Wow. You are a big girl.
Happy birthday.
Right.
1157
01:10:36,866 --> 01:10:41,671
[ Lisa ] Everything has
this overshadowing,
"This is the last of holidays."
1158
01:10:41,705 --> 01:10:44,708
"This is the last
birthday party."
"This is the last everything."
1159
01:10:44,741 --> 01:10:47,511
It's funny. He's not really
a big materialistic person,
1160
01:10:47,544 --> 01:10:49,646
but he bought her
a lot of gifts this year.
1161
01:10:49,679 --> 01:10:52,582
I said to him,
"You didn't have to go through
all this trouble."
1162
01:10:52,616 --> 01:10:56,019
And he said, "This might be
the last time I can really ever
give her gifts and be here."
1163
01:10:56,052 --> 01:10:58,822
So that was kind of sad.
1164
01:10:58,855 --> 01:11:02,526
I don't know.
He's got some
serious decisions to make.
1165
01:11:02,559 --> 01:11:05,729
And they suck.
No matter what you choose,
they suck.
1166
01:11:05,762 --> 01:11:07,897
[ Chattering ]
1167
01:11:08,498 --> 01:11:10,900
[ Shouts, Laughs ]
1168
01:11:10,934 --> 01:11:12,636
Wow!
1169
01:11:13,703 --> 01:11:16,005
I just feel bad that, uh,
1170
01:11:16,039 --> 01:11:18,675
this came up
in this part of his life.
1171
01:11:21,110 --> 01:11:24,748
I'm hoping for him
to make an agreement,
1172
01:11:24,781 --> 01:11:27,817
because going
to trial, I think--
1173
01:11:27,851 --> 01:11:30,987
I think with the charges
against him,
1174
01:11:31,020 --> 01:11:33,757
that's two life sentences.
1175
01:11:35,392 --> 01:11:38,662
I don't believe in
his philosophies,
1176
01:11:38,695 --> 01:11:42,298
but, uh, he's my son
and I-- and I love him.
1177
01:11:52,442 --> 01:11:54,811
Come here, Lily.
Mmm.
1178
01:12:02,386 --> 01:12:04,954
So, cool. I--
Thanks for everyone
for coming.
1179
01:12:08,992 --> 01:12:12,662
Or you want to pace behind?
He wants to pace behind us.
1180
01:12:12,696 --> 01:12:14,931
Um, I just wanted everyone to
come so I can tell you guys...
1181
01:12:14,964 --> 01:12:18,435
I made my final decision
on, uh,
1182
01:12:18,468 --> 01:12:21,571
the plea bargain the government
offered a few weeks ago.
1183
01:12:21,605 --> 01:12:25,409
And so, um,
I'm gonna be...
1184
01:12:25,442 --> 01:12:28,011
agreeing to
this plea bargain
in court on the 9th.
1185
01:12:30,480 --> 01:12:32,782
So--
1186
01:12:32,816 --> 01:12:36,786
The recommended sentence
on the part of the government
is eight years.
1187
01:12:36,820 --> 01:12:38,455
I won't be taken
into custody at sentencing.
1188
01:12:38,488 --> 01:12:41,691
I'm gonna-- I qualify
for a self-report.
1189
01:12:41,725 --> 01:12:44,828
But it's a major,
major important thing to them...
1190
01:12:44,861 --> 01:12:47,831
to say that-- that our crime
fit the federal crime
of terrorism.
1191
01:12:50,600 --> 01:12:52,869
[ Narrator ]
Even though Daniel has now
accepted a plea bargain,
1192
01:12:52,902 --> 01:12:55,038
a hurdle still remains.
1193
01:12:55,071 --> 01:12:57,774
A federal judge must
determine whether the fires...
1194
01:12:57,807 --> 01:13:02,446
qualify for something called
the terrorism enhancement.
1195
01:13:02,479 --> 01:13:05,715
If the judge rules that
Daniel's fires were terrorism,
1196
01:13:05,749 --> 01:13:08,885
Daniel could be
sent to a new,
ultra-restrictive prison.
1197
01:13:08,918 --> 01:13:12,656
It was set up after 9/11
to house terrorists.
1198
01:13:12,689 --> 01:13:16,493
In the media
and in the courtroom,
the question is debated.
1199
01:13:16,526 --> 01:13:19,496
Ecoterrorism: Terrorist acts
by radical groups--
1200
01:13:19,529 --> 01:13:21,831
- Ecoterrorist.
- Ecoterrorism.
1201
01:13:21,865 --> 01:13:23,700
Environmental terrorists.
1202
01:13:23,733 --> 01:13:26,035
People need to question, like,
1203
01:13:26,069 --> 01:13:28,605
this buzz word
and how it's being used,
1204
01:13:28,638 --> 01:13:30,940
and how it's, like,
just become the new "Communist."
1205
01:13:30,974 --> 01:13:32,776
It's become the new, you know--
1206
01:13:32,809 --> 01:13:34,644
It's like the bogeyman.
It's a bogeyman word.
1207
01:13:34,678 --> 01:13:37,547
It's like whoever
I really disagree with
is a terrorist.
1208
01:13:37,581 --> 01:13:40,183
Some people have a problem with,
you know, calling this
terrorism,
1209
01:13:40,216 --> 01:13:45,188
but when you're basically
making the threat
where people go home at night...
1210
01:13:45,221 --> 01:13:47,223
wondering if they're
gonna be a target,
1211
01:13:47,256 --> 01:13:49,158
um, that's
what terrorism is.
1212
01:13:50,627 --> 01:13:53,963
After the fire,
for-- for a long time,
1213
01:13:53,997 --> 01:13:55,832
you really looked
over your shoulder.
1214
01:13:55,865 --> 01:13:59,469
We put a new alarm system in
our home and things like that...
1215
01:13:59,503 --> 01:14:02,972
that, uh, before
we hadn't thought about.
1216
01:14:03,006 --> 01:14:07,977
You know, being a New Yorker,
with experiencing such
serious terrorism firsthand...
1217
01:14:08,011 --> 01:14:11,648
is like, "How are you gonna call
someone who sets fire
to an empty building...
1218
01:14:13,016 --> 01:14:14,951
a terrorist?"
1219
01:14:14,984 --> 01:14:18,488
It's just inappropriate
in every way,
and it's an insult.
1220
01:14:23,527 --> 01:14:26,996
The word "terrorism" to me
is about killing humans.
1221
01:14:27,030 --> 01:14:29,198
It's about ending
innocent life.
1222
01:14:30,867 --> 01:14:35,872
And that is the antitheses
of what these people did.
1223
01:14:35,905 --> 01:14:40,176
Concern for life was
a very big part of the plan...
1224
01:14:40,209 --> 01:14:42,879
and implementation
of these actions,
1225
01:14:42,912 --> 01:14:45,682
and is why no one was
ever harmed or injured in them.
1226
01:14:47,951 --> 01:14:53,189
1,200 incidents are
being accredited to the E.L.F.
and A.L.F. in this country,
1227
01:14:53,222 --> 01:14:55,224
and not a single
injury or death.
1228
01:14:55,258 --> 01:14:57,694
Those statistics
don't happen by accident.
1229
01:14:59,996 --> 01:15:04,834
Terrorist acts, under
the definition of the law,
can vary all over the board.
1230
01:15:04,868 --> 01:15:07,704
There is no requirement
for purposes of terrorism...
1231
01:15:07,737 --> 01:15:10,907
that you physically endanger
another person's life.
1232
01:15:10,940 --> 01:15:13,977
I mean, you don't have
to be Bonnie and Clyde
to be a bank robber,
1233
01:15:14,010 --> 01:15:17,280
and you don't have to be
Al-Qaeda to be a terrorist.
1234
01:15:17,313 --> 01:15:19,783
I don't think
these people are terrorists.
1235
01:15:19,816 --> 01:15:23,587
I think, uh, the people
and the agencies...
1236
01:15:23,620 --> 01:15:27,090
and the industry
that they're fighting
are the true terrorists.
1237
01:15:28,257 --> 01:15:30,827
When you got
big timber companies...
1238
01:15:30,860 --> 01:15:34,330
coming into the Northwest,
clear-cutting
old-growth forests,
1239
01:15:34,363 --> 01:15:37,801
big oil companies
with their big oil spills...
1240
01:15:37,834 --> 01:15:41,270
that, uh, cost billions
and billions and billions
of dollars.
1241
01:15:41,304 --> 01:15:45,308
You don't see the F.B.I.
raiding these executives' homes
or anything like that.
1242
01:15:45,341 --> 01:15:48,745
They aren't being
threatened with life in prison.
1243
01:15:48,778 --> 01:15:52,716
All they really do
is just pay a fine and, uh,
move on to the next quarter.
1244
01:15:52,749 --> 01:15:57,587
Th-The old adage that, you know,
one man's terrorist is another
man's freedom fighter is true.
1245
01:15:58,888 --> 01:16:01,257
You know, if you agree
with their motives--
1246
01:16:01,290 --> 01:16:05,028
Wow, they're a hero.
They're not a terrorist at all.
1247
01:16:05,061 --> 01:16:07,864
If you disagree
with their motives,
then they're a terrorist.
1248
01:16:07,897 --> 01:16:09,833
That's tough. Okay.
1249
01:16:09,866 --> 01:16:12,802
That's why it's a whole lot
cleaner to deal with crimes.
1250
01:16:12,836 --> 01:16:14,704
Crimes, noncrime.
1251
01:16:14,738 --> 01:16:17,240
Okay, I'm good with that.
I can do that.
[ Man ] Arson?
1252
01:16:17,273 --> 01:16:20,243
Arson is a crime.
Good. I can do that.
1253
01:16:20,276 --> 01:16:24,113
You know, is it terrorism?
We'll find out.
1254
01:16:34,290 --> 01:16:38,862
I ordered a book about doing
time in federal prison written
by a lawyer who did time.
1255
01:16:38,895 --> 01:16:41,297
I'm very, you know--
Getting very prepared
for the whole idea.
1256
01:16:41,330 --> 01:16:46,035
But that doesn't necessarily
make it any easier, you know?
[ Lisa ] I know.
1257
01:16:50,106 --> 01:16:53,176
You know you're not alone
even though you're in there
by yourself.
1258
01:16:53,209 --> 01:16:54,711
I know.
1259
01:17:03,853 --> 01:17:06,155
Just, I don't know. It sucks.
1260
01:17:06,189 --> 01:17:08,825
Sometimes it's hard not to just
look at the whole situation
and go like,
1261
01:17:08,858 --> 01:17:12,161
"What the fuck?
How did this all happen?"
You know?
1262
01:17:15,832 --> 01:17:17,300
I don't know.
1263
01:17:17,333 --> 01:17:21,404
The situation with
the environment is not getting
better. It's getting worse.
1264
01:17:21,437 --> 01:17:23,673
And I'm not suggesting that
the path of destruction...
1265
01:17:23,707 --> 01:17:25,208
and destroying everything
is the right path.
1266
01:17:25,241 --> 01:17:26,976
But I didn't know what to do.
1267
01:17:27,010 --> 01:17:30,179
It's like screaming
at the top of your lungs
and no one hears you.
1268
01:17:30,213 --> 01:17:32,949
Like, what the hell are you
supposed to say, you know?
1269
01:17:32,982 --> 01:17:34,317
What are you supposed to do?
1270
01:17:41,124 --> 01:17:42,859
Yes!
1271
01:17:42,892 --> 01:17:44,293
Going to the courthouse?
1272
01:17:47,163 --> 01:17:48,364
Yeah.
1273
01:18:10,186 --> 01:18:12,388
[ Cawing ]
1274
01:18:15,859 --> 01:18:17,794
[ Chattering ]
1275
01:18:24,934 --> 01:18:29,138
The judge has sentenced
Mr. McGowan to 84 months
in prison.
1276
01:18:29,172 --> 01:18:31,274
That's seven years.
1277
01:18:31,307 --> 01:18:34,010
The court also imposed
a terrorism enhancement.
1278
01:18:34,043 --> 01:18:37,881
He has been branded
as a terrorist in the media.
1279
01:18:37,914 --> 01:18:43,286
He will be listed as
a successful government
terror prosecution...
1280
01:18:43,319 --> 01:18:46,522
for the rest of his life,
and we are very disappointed.
1281
01:18:46,555 --> 01:18:49,793
We believe it's legally wrong,
and factually wrong.
1282
01:18:52,295 --> 01:18:54,263
[ Daniel ]
Oh, look at the trailhead
right there.
1283
01:19:19,155 --> 01:19:20,824
Oh, my God.
It fell from there.
1284
01:19:27,563 --> 01:19:29,899
The older I get,
1285
01:19:29,933 --> 01:19:32,936
um, the more
circumspect I become.
1286
01:19:32,969 --> 01:19:38,574
And, uh, I know now
that a world is not
black and white.
1287
01:19:38,607 --> 01:19:42,378
Um, it's not that simple.
1288
01:19:42,411 --> 01:19:46,950
When you f-- When I first
read about these arsons...
1289
01:19:46,983 --> 01:19:51,921
and became, uh, involved
in the investigation
of the arsons,
1290
01:19:51,955 --> 01:19:56,292
you see all the damage
and the harm that they've done.
1291
01:19:56,325 --> 01:20:00,864
And the threats they made--
They're not very
likable people at all.
1292
01:20:00,897 --> 01:20:04,267
Once you get to know them
as a human being,
1293
01:20:04,300 --> 01:20:09,405
you-- you start looking
at their motivations
'cause you're curious about it.
1294
01:20:09,438 --> 01:20:12,541
Why did they do
such a horrible thing?
1295
01:20:12,575 --> 01:20:15,945
And you look at
their background, and you
look at their childhood,
1296
01:20:15,979 --> 01:20:21,517
and you look at
how they've evolved
from the days...
1297
01:20:21,550 --> 01:20:24,420
when they committed
all these crimes.
1298
01:20:24,453 --> 01:20:27,423
And then,
instead of just being...
1299
01:20:27,456 --> 01:20:30,593
a cold mug shot
on a piece of paper,
1300
01:20:30,626 --> 01:20:32,361
they become human beings.
1301
01:20:32,395 --> 01:20:34,563
And so you begin
to understand them.
1302
01:20:34,597 --> 01:20:39,202
And that's not that you're
saying you approve of their
conduct or their behavior.
1303
01:20:39,235 --> 01:20:43,506
But you gain an understanding,
an insight,
as to how it came to pass...
1304
01:20:43,539 --> 01:20:45,574
that they started
doing these things.
1305
01:20:48,377 --> 01:20:52,015
And then you're curious
about how their lives
will end up,
1306
01:20:52,048 --> 01:20:54,017
but only time will tell.
1307
01:20:55,084 --> 01:20:57,954
My stomach is flipping out!
1308
01:20:59,923 --> 01:21:01,557
Want me to open it?
No, I got it.
1309
01:21:01,590 --> 01:21:03,492
You sure?
Okay.
I gotta be independent.
1310
01:21:03,526 --> 01:21:06,395
You're not gonna be there
to advise me on stuff.
1311
01:21:22,445 --> 01:21:25,248
I'm in your corner.
I know. Thanks, Pop.
1312
01:21:27,183 --> 01:21:29,518
I'll see you.
1313
01:21:29,552 --> 01:21:32,521
Thanks for everything.
[ Sniffles ]
1314
01:21:34,157 --> 01:21:35,558
I'll see you later.
1315
01:22:13,997 --> 01:22:16,065
I love you.
[ Crying ]
I love you too.
1316
01:22:56,739 --> 01:23:00,143
** [ Alternative Intro ]
1317
01:23:10,386 --> 01:23:13,522
* Take us down and all apart
1318
01:23:13,556 --> 01:23:15,391
* Cherry tree
1319
01:23:17,126 --> 01:23:20,529
* Lay us out on the table
1320
01:23:29,438 --> 01:23:31,640
* You're sharp, all right
1321
01:23:37,280 --> 01:23:40,716
* But no one is asking,
so leave it alone *
1322
01:23:40,749 --> 01:23:43,252
* Leave it alone
1323
01:23:43,286 --> 01:23:44,387
* Can we
1324
01:23:44,420 --> 01:23:47,623
* Loose lips sink ships
Loose lips sink ships *
1325
01:23:47,656 --> 01:23:51,227
* Loose lips sink ships
Loose lips sink ships *
1326
01:23:51,260 --> 01:23:54,330
* Loose lips sink ships
Loose lips sink ships *
1327
01:23:54,363 --> 01:23:56,265
* Loose lips sink ships
1328
01:23:57,733 --> 01:24:01,137
* Don't look at me
I'm only breathing *
1329
01:24:01,170 --> 01:24:04,473
* Don't look at me
I'm indiscreet *
1330
01:24:04,507 --> 01:24:08,111
* Don't look at me
I'm only breathing *
1331
01:24:08,144 --> 01:24:10,679
* Don't look at me
I'm indiscreet *
1332
01:24:16,819 --> 01:24:20,423
* Can we show
1333
01:24:20,456 --> 01:24:22,391
* A little discipline
1334
01:24:23,592 --> 01:24:25,794
* Can we show
1335
01:24:27,130 --> 01:24:29,165
* A little discipline
1336
01:24:30,333 --> 01:24:32,535
* Can we
1337
01:24:37,273 --> 01:24:38,607
* Can we
1338
01:24:45,248 --> 01:24:48,451
* Loose lips sink ships
Loose lips sink ships *
1339
01:24:48,484 --> 01:24:50,553
* Loose lips sink ships
1340
01:24:50,586 --> 01:24:52,688
* Can we show
1341
01:24:54,223 --> 01:24:56,325
* A little discipline
1342
01:24:57,460 --> 01:24:58,627
* Can we
1343
01:25:05,401 --> 01:25:08,637
* Loose lips sink ships
Loose lips sink ships *
1344
01:25:08,671 --> 01:25:12,175
* Loose lips sink ships
Loose lips sink ships *
1345
01:25:12,208 --> 01:25:15,311
* Loose lips sink ships
Loose lips sink ships *
1346
01:25:15,344 --> 01:25:17,380
* Loose lips sink ships *
1347
01:25:32,695 --> 01:25:34,763
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