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- Hello.
- Hi, I'm Louis.
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I'm Louis.
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Oh, I can't shake your hand!
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[laughter]
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Theroux narrates: For 25 years,
I've been making programs
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about life in all
its strangeness...
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Stand by.
Information to follow.
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Theroux narrates:
..and mystery...
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- Who are you?
- I'm Louis.
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Who's Louis?
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Theroux narrates: ..and angst...
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You OK, Nikki?
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Theroux narrates: ..trying to
make connections with people
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who are, in different ways,
on the edge.
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Not all of us
want to be like this.
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Theroux narrates: Recently,
I decided to take a pause
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and trawl through my old shows,
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looking again at some stories
that stayed with me...
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Yeah, this has stuff in it.
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Theroux narrates:
..and to reach out
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to those I'd featured...
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- Look at you,
Mr Beard and moustache.
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I know.
Don't I look distinguished?
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Theroux narrates: ..to see how
their lives have changed.
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You've been married six times.
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Henry VIII was married
six times,
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so it's not unprecedented.
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[laughs]
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- Hey, how are you doing?
- Good. How are you?
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- Good.
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Theroux narrates:
From all the hours of programs,
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I've teased out
a handful of themes...
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- This is gonna be the start
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of the second
American Civil War.
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White revolution!
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[cheering]
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- Why did you run?
- Because they shoot anybody,
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they don't care who it is.
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Point blank range,
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they'll pull the gun out
and shoot you.
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Theroux narrates: ..all
of which, in different ways,
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go to the heart
of what it means to be human...
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What connection is there
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between a birth mum
and a child?
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[yells]
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You OK?
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It seems like every day I get
delivered from something else
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that I didn't even know I had.
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Theroux narrates:
..trying to figure out
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what I've learned about life
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and about myself.
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[applause]
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- If you want more money,
stand up and say, "Oh, yeah!"
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Crowd: Oh, yeah!
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- Would never work for you
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'cause you have to have
the faith of a mustard seed
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and you have none.
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Newsreader: The wearing
of face coverings in shops
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in England will become
compulsory from midnight
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and failing to do so
could result in a £100 fine.
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After initially being sceptical
about their effectiveness
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in helping stop the spread
of coronavirus,
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the government says
its view has evolved
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as the scientific advice
has changed.
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[whirr of machinery]
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Theroux narrates: Even though
I'm an atheist and was raised
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without any structured religion
in my life,
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or maybe because of that,
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I've always been drawn
to people
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who seem to have
very firm convictions,
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very fervent beliefs...
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..even when those beliefs
seemed wrong-headed
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or confused or strange.
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Dictators and despots,
never did that.
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Con artists and mind readers.
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Televangelism.
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That's a bumper sticker
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that we featured
in the program.
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Kids who get operations
on their tongues.
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This is the article.
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"Almost heaven.
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"It will rise right here,
in northern Idaho.
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"200 acres, 30 lots,
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"that they're selling
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"to people who want to escape
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"government tyranny
and Armageddon."
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So, that became the first one
that we filmed.
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That was the first episode
of my series,
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the first time I went
on TV with my own TV show,
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'Louis Theroux's
Weird Weekends'.
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Theroux narrates: I was sitting
in the world's tiniest plane,
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high above northwest America.
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Peaceful as they look,
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these hills of Idaho
and Montana
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are home to a strange subculture
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of right wing patriots.
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Remember, this was the mid '90s,
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when Bill Clinton was in power,
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and he'd enacted
new gun control legislation.
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Plus, you'd had
the bungled siege at Waco,
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in which 76 people died,
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and, by many gun owners,
he was seen as a mortal enemy
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intent on taking away their guns
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and instituting tyranny.
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Many were taking to the hills
and arming themselves
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against the federal government,
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like a little underground army
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of rebels and renegades.
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And there'd been a lot
in the media about them,
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so there was a real fear
on our part
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that they might be dangerous...
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..and, if I'm honest,
at the same time,
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I was kind of excited
to meet them.
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Well, we're doing a little
story on Almost Heaven.
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Want to find out what life's
like up here. How do you do?
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- You ain't in Almost Heaven.
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- No?
- No.
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- Where am I?
- Well, from the temperature,
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- you're in Almost Hell.
- Yeah, looks like it!
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I've got to tell you,
I was a little bit nervous
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about coming up here.
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I heard you fellas
were a bit scary.
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Oh, really?
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- You know,
the conventional view
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of, um, people who live on...
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..covenant community
places like this.
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I don't know what's so scary.
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- We...
- Are you scary?
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No, I'm not scary, really.
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Only if you, uh...
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..you come up here to do harm
to me or my family...
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..then I'm probably
as scary as you are
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if someone came to do harm
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- to you and your family.
- Yeah.
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Oh, my word. Here we go.
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Theroux narrates:
One of the more radical people
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up there at Almost Heaven
was Mike Cain...
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..but he actually turned out
to be rather welcoming.
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- This is the old homestead.
- This is Freedom Central.
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- It's unfinished.
Hiya, fellas.
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Is there anything
in the way of a guided tour?
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- I...
- Yeah.
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Well, it's kind of
a typical house.
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I don't know if it's much
of a guided tour, but come on.
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- Well, see, there's a gun rack
over there,
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- that's not that typical.
- Maybe not where you're from.
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- No, not in Britain.
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- They don't let you have those
back there,
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- do they?
- No, they don't.
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- You know, for an American
to live without a gun
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is like you guys
trying to live without tea.
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- Really?
- Now, how is that possible?
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Couldn't be that bad,
could it?
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- And we pray now
for thy greater glory
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and do so in the name
of thy son, Jesus Christ.
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- Amen.
- Amen.
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- For people in Britain
who aren't up to speed on this
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and they don't know exactly
what's going on
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and don't understand
Patriot beliefs,
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how would you explain it,
simply as you could,
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- what's going on?
- There has been a conspiracy
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for some years...
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..by a group of work...
a group of people
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that have become known loosely
as the New World Order.
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The problem
with the New World Order
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and the one world government
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is that it requires
a benevolent dictator.
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You show me in history
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any time that there's ever been
a benevolent dictator ever...
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..and if you don't have
a benevolent dictator,
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then you have a tyrant.
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OK, so what's this?
This is nice.
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- Yeah, this is...
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..well, actually,
this is your room, Louis.
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If you want to spend
the night, it's your room.
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- Can I really?
- Oh, yeah.
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Well, that's very, very kind,
Mike, thanks so much.
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Well, you got
one thing right,
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I am a big fan
of Keanu Reeves.
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- As I think you can tell
from watching it,
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I grew to like him,
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and I was, you know...
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I felt as though
he had a good heart,
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and, you know, he...he...
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I liked his wife, his family.
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I was sentimental
about the whole milieu,
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like, the world of the cowboys,
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this rugged frontier lifestyle.
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- Whoa! This is weird!
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- Maybe I was guilty of
slightly romanticising him...
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- Come up here, Mike.
You want a go?
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Oh, you're OK. I like you.
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- ..and then also the fact that
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I was making
my own TV program and...
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It was sort of wrapped up
in a sense of being grateful
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for what they'd given me,
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in terms of making
the story work.
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- Shouldn't we be
wearing earmuffs?
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- Oh, you don't wear
ear muffs in a war.
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[gunshot]
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Theroux: So, when's it all going
to happen, do you think?
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- Well,
maybe before the year 2000.
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- And what will it be?
- All out war.
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- Really?
- I'm sorry.
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One day.
We've all fought wars before.
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- You against who?
- Everyone.
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I've really enjoyed
being around you
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and it just
sort of makes me worried
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because the more
convinced you are
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that this is going to happen,
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it seems, in a way,
the more likely
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it makes it
that it will happen.
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I'd hate to read that,
you know,
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one day that Mike Cain
has been in some incident
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with the federal authorities.
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I mean, it would really
upset me, seriously.
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I can promise you this,
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if it happens, it won't be
because we started it.
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It's not just me saying it.
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There's tens of thousands
of Americans just like me,
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all across this country,
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perhaps even millions
of Americans,
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that are ready for the war.
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- I mean, I stayed
in touch with Mike
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after the show went out.
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I want to see what this one...
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So, this is a letter.
When is this?
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November '97.
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So, that would have been
literally just a year after.
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OK. "Dearest Louis,
Simon, Ed, Russell,
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"and friends at the BBC..."
That was the crew.
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"..we received with gladness
each of your letters
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"and pray you are
all well and happy.
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"I was arrested and jailed
on November 8th
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"for the crime
of asserting my rights.
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"My brothers, acting under
inspiration from our Lord,
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"were able to secure
my quick release."
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I think he was done for driving
with no licence plates.
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August, 2001.
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"Kamiah County, Idaho,
Sheriff's Department,
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"who delivered an eviction
notice ten days ago
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"after Cain had failed
to pay $2,242
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"for property taxes."
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March '98.
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"Probably will end up
in a gunfight,"
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and then he goes,
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"They will fire
the first shot, Louis."
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I will have been saying, like,
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"Why don't you just calm down
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"and just sort it out
and just...
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"Just don't start
any shit with them?"
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I think what happened was
his wife, Chacha, left first.
253
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He lasted a bit longer...
254
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Quick, quick.
30 seconds of tape!
255
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- ..and then one night,
under the cover of darkness,
256
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he left Almost Heaven.
257
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I think his appetite
for the fight had gone.
258
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- Be careful driving
down the mountain now.
259
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- Be safe. Don't do...
260
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[video call rings]
261
00:10:22,275 --> 00:10:23,545
How are you doing, Mike?
262
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- I'm doing well, Louis.
How are you?
263
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I'm not too bad.
Nice catching up with you.
264
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I appreciate you stopping by
for a chat.
265
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Do you look back
at the Almost Heaven experience
266
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and see it as a misadventure,
267
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something that you regret?
268
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- Yes and no.
269
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I moved my family up there
270
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as a means to protect them.
271
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It was after you left
that things turned sour.
272
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What those people up there were
273
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was just a bunch
of scared blowhards
274
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that, uh, wanted to talk
and do nothing.
275
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It was...it was never
a unified community, ever.
276
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You believed that, um...
277
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with government
controlling people
278
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and curbing their liberty,
279
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there'd be chaos in the cities,
280
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that it might not be safe
for you and your family.
281
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- Correct.
282
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And we're seeing some
of that now, aren't we?
283
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If you don't wear a mask
in public,
284
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you're going to be arrested.
285
00:11:22,827 --> 00:11:25,277
Same old tyranny bullcrap.
286
00:11:25,379 --> 00:11:28,549
We're seeing
grocery stores empty out.
287
00:11:28,655 --> 00:11:31,785
You're seeing people
fighting over toilet paper.
288
00:11:31,896 --> 00:11:35,026
The travesty
of the whole COVID thing
289
00:11:35,137 --> 00:11:36,997
is not the virus itself,
290
00:11:37,103 --> 00:11:40,413
but the tyranny that
it's allowing to prosper.
291
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What is that all about, Louis?
292
00:11:42,310 --> 00:11:45,140
What government has the right
to restrict your liberty?
293
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The only reason they're doing it
294
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is that we're letting them.
295
00:11:49,172 --> 00:11:51,832
It's time the Americans...
296
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..put their big boy pants on
297
00:11:54,931 --> 00:11:56,031
and put an end to this.
298
00:11:56,137 --> 00:11:58,097
- And you know what
I flashed back to?
299
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Was you on the hillside
24 years ago,
300
00:12:01,172 --> 00:12:03,622
saying more and more
Americans are fed up
301
00:12:03,724 --> 00:12:06,004
with government overreach.
302
00:12:06,103 --> 00:12:08,663
Do you think
there's something in you
303
00:12:08,758 --> 00:12:11,338
that just tends to see
the world that way?
304
00:12:11,448 --> 00:12:13,378
- Of course I see
the world that way.
305
00:12:13,482 --> 00:12:15,102
How can you not?
306
00:12:22,172 --> 00:12:23,622
- I've always
enjoyed the people
307
00:12:23,724 --> 00:12:25,414
who know what they think
308
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and have beliefs
that they're certain about...
309
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..who aren't really like me,
310
00:12:32,275 --> 00:12:36,305
'cause I'm constantly
groping for certainty,
311
00:12:36,413 --> 00:12:39,523
uncertain about what I think
or what I believe.
312
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People who aren't afraid
of speaking their minds.
313
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You know,
you might laugh about it,
314
00:12:44,068 --> 00:12:45,338
and then a little part
of you might think,
315
00:12:45,448 --> 00:12:47,408
"Well, maybe he's got a point."
316
00:12:52,172 --> 00:12:55,212
Well, this is
an old UFO magazine...
317
00:12:57,344 --> 00:13:00,724
..with a picture
of an alien on the cover.
318
00:13:00,827 --> 00:13:01,967
Producer: What kind
of alien's that?
319
00:13:02,068 --> 00:13:03,788
- Looks like a Grey.
320
00:13:03,896 --> 00:13:05,926
- These are harmful,
hateful people
321
00:13:06,034 --> 00:13:07,624
that rape, molest,
steal children,
322
00:13:07,724 --> 00:13:10,594
terrorise lives
and make men cringe,
323
00:13:10,689 --> 00:13:12,829
make men soil themselves
324
00:13:12,931 --> 00:13:15,621
and these are no people
to be respected.
325
00:13:15,724 --> 00:13:18,664
- The challenge
making the story was...
326
00:13:18,758 --> 00:13:19,858
Well, this is kind of funny
327
00:13:19,965 --> 00:13:22,895
and this will be
a colourful adventure,
328
00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:25,790
a safari through
the outer fringes of belief,
329
00:13:25,896 --> 00:13:27,276
but what does it add up to?
330
00:13:27,379 --> 00:13:29,069
We're not really learning,
I think,
331
00:13:29,172 --> 00:13:33,832
that much about how real
the alien phenomena are.
332
00:13:33,931 --> 00:13:35,691
What does
the Alien Resistance Movement
333
00:13:35,793 --> 00:13:36,723
actually do?
334
00:13:36,827 --> 00:13:38,857
- We monitor the
extraterrestrials
335
00:13:38,965 --> 00:13:40,545
coming into the planet.
336
00:13:40,655 --> 00:13:42,615
We have killed
extraterrestrials.
337
00:13:42,724 --> 00:13:44,554
These insignias
are our definite kills.
338
00:13:44,655 --> 00:13:45,995
Each one of these is ten kills.
339
00:13:46,103 --> 00:13:48,343
This is something
that we are called to do.
340
00:13:48,448 --> 00:13:50,238
We consider ourselves
warrior monks.
341
00:13:50,344 --> 00:13:53,104
We do this
'cause we want to do this.
342
00:13:53,206 --> 00:13:55,066
- We met someone
called Chris O'Brien,
343
00:13:55,172 --> 00:13:58,792
who is a writer
and a paranormal researcher.
344
00:13:58,896 --> 00:14:00,656
His main thing
was the idea that,
345
00:14:00,758 --> 00:14:02,858
in the area of Colorado,
where he was living...
346
00:14:04,137 --> 00:14:07,657
..there were mysterious,
unexplained deaths
347
00:14:07,758 --> 00:14:10,548
and mutilations of cattle,
348
00:14:10,655 --> 00:14:13,475
very often
with rectums being removed.
349
00:14:13,586 --> 00:14:15,616
Shall we take
the tarpaulin off?
350
00:14:15,724 --> 00:14:17,834
- Yeah, let's go ahead
and get this thing off.
351
00:14:18,827 --> 00:14:20,997
Oh! Oh-oh-oh!
352
00:14:21,103 --> 00:14:22,763
Oh, man!
353
00:14:22,862 --> 00:14:25,072
- Its... [coughs]
354
00:14:28,586 --> 00:14:29,546
- Its re...
- Yes.
355
00:14:29,655 --> 00:14:31,025
[coughs and retches]
356
00:14:31,137 --> 00:14:32,657
Its rectum is bubbling.
357
00:14:32,758 --> 00:14:34,588
- [laughs]
358
00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:39,070
I know it's tough, Louis,
but you can handle it.
359
00:14:39,172 --> 00:14:41,662
And then
Reverend Robert Short...
360
00:14:41,758 --> 00:14:44,378
..was a UFO space channel.
361
00:14:44,482 --> 00:14:47,142
He channelled
an alien called Korton
362
00:14:47,241 --> 00:14:48,591
from the planet Koldas.
363
00:14:49,517 --> 00:14:50,617
He's one of those characters
364
00:14:50,724 --> 00:14:53,314
that people remember
and ask about
365
00:14:53,413 --> 00:14:55,413
and say, "Oh, that guy,
he was something else."
366
00:14:55,517 --> 00:14:57,097
Hello?
367
00:15:01,586 --> 00:15:03,236
[high-pitched] Hello?
368
00:15:09,758 --> 00:15:11,378
- Yep?
- Oh, you startled me!
369
00:15:11,482 --> 00:15:12,902
- Come on in.
- How's it going?
370
00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:14,310
Are you Reverend Short?
371
00:15:14,413 --> 00:15:15,973
- Hi, how are you?
Come on in.
372
00:15:16,068 --> 00:15:17,278
Phew!
373
00:15:17,379 --> 00:15:19,309
So, how's this going
to work exactly?
374
00:15:19,413 --> 00:15:21,173
Can you channel...
get in contact
375
00:15:21,275 --> 00:15:23,165
with an extraterrestrial
right now?
376
00:15:23,275 --> 00:15:25,025
Well, we're gonna attempt
to try to do that right now
377
00:15:25,137 --> 00:15:27,167
and we're gonna do it
right here.
378
00:15:27,275 --> 00:15:31,235
[grunting, gargling]
379
00:15:35,931 --> 00:15:39,481
[deep voice]
This is Central Control.
380
00:15:39,586 --> 00:15:42,656
This is Central Control.
381
00:15:42,758 --> 00:15:48,098
We are ready to transmit.
We are ready to transmit.
382
00:15:48,206 --> 00:15:50,856
Korton, some people
I've been speaking to
383
00:15:50,965 --> 00:15:53,825
have suggested that there's
major cataclysms under way,
384
00:15:53,931 --> 00:15:56,691
possible alien invasion
or Earth...
385
00:15:56,793 --> 00:15:59,313
- We should stay down.
386
00:15:59,413 --> 00:16:02,663
We would rather that, um...
387
00:16:02,758 --> 00:16:05,278
individuals do not dwell
388
00:16:05,379 --> 00:16:09,719
upon the negative aspects
of that,
389
00:16:09,827 --> 00:16:15,067
which is, as yet,
only a premise.
390
00:16:15,172 --> 00:16:17,142
Discontinue.
391
00:16:21,344 --> 00:16:22,724
[inhales sharply]
392
00:16:22,827 --> 00:16:25,167
[exhales deeply]
393
00:16:25,275 --> 00:16:26,655
I want you
to feel something.
394
00:16:26,758 --> 00:16:28,208
- Feel something?
395
00:16:28,310 --> 00:16:29,930
- Put your hand
right in through here.
396
00:16:30,034 --> 00:16:30,974
- Here? Where, here?
397
00:16:31,068 --> 00:16:32,448
Just rub your hand up and down.
398
00:16:32,551 --> 00:16:34,171
- Yeah, a lot of sweat.
399
00:16:34,275 --> 00:16:35,995
- Dad says it
was the energy beam.
400
00:16:36,103 --> 00:16:38,073
- How do you feel?
- Er...that was intense.
401
00:16:38,172 --> 00:16:40,242
That was incredible.
402
00:16:40,344 --> 00:16:43,454
I tended to see him
as something like a shaman,
403
00:16:43,551 --> 00:16:47,071
of a kind of vernacular
American sort...
404
00:16:47,172 --> 00:16:48,722
..that it was as spiritual
405
00:16:48,827 --> 00:16:51,097
as much as it was
a scientific phenomenon.
406
00:16:53,517 --> 00:16:56,137
And I made a trip over
in 2004
407
00:16:56,241 --> 00:16:59,171
to do some follow-up
for a book that I wrote.
408
00:16:59,275 --> 00:17:02,065
Some of that's recorded
in the footage
409
00:17:02,172 --> 00:17:03,622
that my wife, Nancy, shot
410
00:17:03,724 --> 00:17:05,694
on a sort of home video camera.
411
00:17:07,103 --> 00:17:09,073
Hi, there!
412
00:17:09,172 --> 00:17:11,522
- He more or less
sat down with me
413
00:17:11,620 --> 00:17:14,380
and told me his story
of growing up in Hollywood,
414
00:17:14,482 --> 00:17:16,522
maybe not feeling he fitted in.
415
00:17:17,517 --> 00:17:18,407
He didn't seem to have
416
00:17:18,517 --> 00:17:20,517
a great relationship
with his parents.
417
00:17:20,620 --> 00:17:22,240
I think he'd had
substance abuse issues,
418
00:17:22,344 --> 00:17:24,034
alcohol specifically.
419
00:17:24,137 --> 00:17:27,717
He worked decent jobs,
but nothing glamorous,
420
00:17:27,827 --> 00:17:30,207
stacking shelves
and I think as a waiter
421
00:17:30,310 --> 00:17:31,520
or a short order chef.
422
00:17:31,620 --> 00:17:32,930
So, discovering himself
423
00:17:33,034 --> 00:17:35,624
in the first flush
of the UFO movement in the '50s,
424
00:17:35,724 --> 00:17:37,834
when people
were being contacted...
425
00:17:37,931 --> 00:17:39,551
..for someone like that
to get involved in,
426
00:17:39,655 --> 00:17:42,025
like, a world of communion
427
00:17:42,137 --> 00:17:45,547
with other planets
and other entities,
428
00:17:45,655 --> 00:17:47,925
it goes without saying,
that's hugely exciting...
429
00:17:48,862 --> 00:17:51,072
..and, um...
430
00:17:51,172 --> 00:17:52,902
..feels like
it's socially important.
431
00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:54,480
- Let me put these
in the house for a minute
432
00:17:54,586 --> 00:17:56,586
- and I'll be right with you.
- OK. Thanks.
433
00:17:56,689 --> 00:17:59,519
- After around 2005...
434
00:18:00,896 --> 00:18:03,546
..we didn't have much contact.
435
00:18:04,862 --> 00:18:06,382
There might have been
an e-mail or two
436
00:18:06,482 --> 00:18:08,722
that went back and forth,
but I don't think so.
437
00:18:10,379 --> 00:18:14,929
This is Galactic-Communa 2.
This is Galactic-Communa 2.
438
00:18:15,034 --> 00:18:16,834
- But you could still see
clips of him on YouTube
439
00:18:16,931 --> 00:18:19,791
and, in fact, as late as
three or four years ago,
440
00:18:19,896 --> 00:18:21,206
maybe it was slightly more,
441
00:18:21,310 --> 00:18:24,100
there's a video
of him channelling
442
00:18:24,206 --> 00:18:26,066
that you can see,
and he looks...
443
00:18:26,172 --> 00:18:28,342
He's still doing it, but...
444
00:18:30,068 --> 00:18:32,758
He obviously looks
a little bit older and...
445
00:18:34,034 --> 00:18:35,454
..reduced.
446
00:18:37,413 --> 00:18:39,413
This is Central Control.
447
00:18:39,517 --> 00:18:42,517
This is Central Control,
Galactic-Communa 2.
448
00:18:42,620 --> 00:18:44,790
We are now ending
our transmission.
449
00:18:44,896 --> 00:18:47,096
We are now ending
our transmission.
450
00:18:49,379 --> 00:18:52,069
- And then, literally,
only a month or two ago...
451
00:18:53,275 --> 00:18:56,375
..I heard that he'd died
at the end of last year.
452
00:19:02,689 --> 00:19:05,829
There's a sort of release
in seeing someone...
453
00:19:05,931 --> 00:19:07,721
You know, there's a pleasure
in seeing someone
454
00:19:07,827 --> 00:19:09,927
do something really weird.
Like...
455
00:19:10,034 --> 00:19:12,104
You know, I don't want
to overcomplicate it.
456
00:19:12,206 --> 00:19:14,306
There's something funny
about someone,
457
00:19:14,413 --> 00:19:17,553
in the name
of contacting an alien,
458
00:19:17,655 --> 00:19:19,755
doing funny voices and...
459
00:19:21,172 --> 00:19:22,622
..just pronouncing things
460
00:19:22,724 --> 00:19:24,174
and saying things in a weird way
461
00:19:24,275 --> 00:19:25,585
and then predicting the future,
462
00:19:25,689 --> 00:19:27,239
that's just quite funny.
463
00:19:27,344 --> 00:19:29,074
The reason it's funny is,
I suppose,
464
00:19:29,172 --> 00:19:31,522
because you're thinking...
465
00:19:33,103 --> 00:19:34,973
"That's not me
and I would never think that."
466
00:19:35,068 --> 00:19:37,478
It seems ridiculous,
467
00:19:37,586 --> 00:19:39,896
but in a way, you know,
in a deeper way,
468
00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:42,000
that is all of us.
469
00:19:43,862 --> 00:19:46,172
- God is gonna send his
decree in his last days
470
00:19:46,275 --> 00:19:48,855
and that is to totally
annihilate America.
471
00:19:48,965 --> 00:19:51,655
America will be blown
off the face of the Earth.
472
00:19:51,758 --> 00:19:54,588
Theroux narrates: No group has
a monopoly on strange beliefs
473
00:19:54,689 --> 00:19:57,029
and, in fact, strange beliefs
can come packaged
474
00:19:57,137 --> 00:19:58,477
as something reasonable.
475
00:19:58,586 --> 00:20:01,616
I did a story on black
nationalism in New York.
476
00:20:01,724 --> 00:20:04,214
Most of the people
I met had what struck me
477
00:20:04,310 --> 00:20:06,410
as an understandable belief
478
00:20:06,517 --> 00:20:09,337
in the need for further
improvements in civil rights,
479
00:20:09,448 --> 00:20:11,688
but they'd also incubated
an extreme fringe
480
00:20:11,793 --> 00:20:13,343
of true believers
481
00:20:13,448 --> 00:20:15,138
who took a totally over-the-top,
482
00:20:15,241 --> 00:20:18,001
exclusionary view
of other races.
483
00:20:20,413 --> 00:20:22,553
- This is a little scary,
isn't it?
484
00:20:22,655 --> 00:20:25,165
- Yeah, Christ is coming back
on a white horse.
485
00:20:26,206 --> 00:20:27,686
He's gonna take down
the white man.
486
00:20:27,793 --> 00:20:31,623
That's why your Pope
is down on the ground.
487
00:20:31,724 --> 00:20:33,454
It's going to happen
by the year 2000.
488
00:20:33,551 --> 00:20:35,621
- Really?
- That's it, yeah.
489
00:20:35,724 --> 00:20:37,484
- Would you follow me this way?
- Of course.
490
00:20:39,068 --> 00:20:40,448
- Alright. How you doing?
491
00:20:40,551 --> 00:20:42,241
- Good. How are you doing?
- Real good.
492
00:20:42,344 --> 00:20:43,834
- I just want
to show you something
493
00:20:43,931 --> 00:20:45,621
that's very interesting
in this book,
494
00:20:45,724 --> 00:20:48,214
that the original rulers
of England
495
00:20:48,310 --> 00:20:50,210
and Britain were black.
496
00:20:50,310 --> 00:20:51,760
- May I come up?
- Sure.
497
00:20:51,862 --> 00:20:53,662
You can come and have a look
with your own two eyes.
498
00:20:53,758 --> 00:20:55,338
- This is more friendly.
- OK, yeah.
499
00:20:55,448 --> 00:20:56,828
We're not gonna attack you.
We're not sharks.
500
00:20:56,931 --> 00:20:59,591
You see the Black court
officers here.
501
00:20:59,689 --> 00:21:01,519
You see the prosecutor
sitting here.
502
00:21:01,620 --> 00:21:03,860
These are Black men.
503
00:21:03,965 --> 00:21:05,785
I don't know,
that's kind of borderline.
504
00:21:05,896 --> 00:21:07,446
Wait a minute.
There's no borderline.
505
00:21:07,551 --> 00:21:09,031
Are you on crack?
506
00:21:09,137 --> 00:21:11,167
You see that
these guys are Black.
507
00:21:11,275 --> 00:21:14,925
Trace your family lineage
on your father's side.
508
00:21:15,034 --> 00:21:17,454
If you happen to be
one of us...
509
00:21:18,896 --> 00:21:20,616
..you're welcome here.
510
00:21:20,724 --> 00:21:22,694
If you're not,
we'll see you in captivity.
511
00:21:24,448 --> 00:21:26,448
- OK, three burglars
on your doorstep, sir.
512
00:21:26,551 --> 00:21:28,001
Sort them out.
513
00:21:30,172 --> 00:21:31,212
Oh, not very good.
514
00:21:31,310 --> 00:21:32,760
[gunshot]
Ooh! He's dead!
515
00:21:32,862 --> 00:21:34,622
Cock, quickly,
there's another one.
516
00:21:34,724 --> 00:21:35,794
- Another one.
- Cock again.
517
00:21:35,896 --> 00:21:36,926
Theroux narrates:
In South Africa,
518
00:21:37,034 --> 00:21:39,144
I did a story
about Boer nationalists
519
00:21:39,241 --> 00:21:41,861
concerned about preserving
their culture.
520
00:21:41,965 --> 00:21:43,025
[gunshot]
Good.
521
00:21:43,137 --> 00:21:44,687
- Your aim is superb.
- Thank you.
522
00:21:44,793 --> 00:21:47,033
- Nothing wrong with your aim.
- I need to speed it up.
523
00:21:47,137 --> 00:21:48,587
But you won't survive in Africa.
524
00:21:48,689 --> 00:21:49,619
- But there, too,
525
00:21:49,724 --> 00:21:51,794
there turned out to be
a racist dimension.
526
00:21:51,896 --> 00:21:53,826
- God created,
527
00:21:53,931 --> 00:21:56,341
not even animal, as equal.
528
00:21:56,448 --> 00:21:57,998
Basically,
what it boils down to
529
00:21:58,103 --> 00:22:00,073
is he sees
those that I chose.
530
00:22:00,172 --> 00:22:03,032
- And who did he choose?
- The white people.
531
00:22:03,137 --> 00:22:05,547
So, where does that leave
non-whites?
532
00:22:07,241 --> 00:22:08,761
Well, the way we see it,
533
00:22:08,862 --> 00:22:11,142
they've got no chance.
534
00:22:11,241 --> 00:22:12,931
Do they seem
at all weird to you?
535
00:22:13,034 --> 00:22:15,454
No. Sometimes
they do weird things,
536
00:22:15,551 --> 00:22:17,101
but they don't seem
at all weird.
537
00:22:17,206 --> 00:22:18,236
- Who?
- The Blacks.
538
00:22:18,344 --> 00:22:19,484
Oh, no,
I meant your beliefs.
539
00:22:19,586 --> 00:22:21,066
Oh, my beliefs? [laughs]
540
00:22:21,172 --> 00:22:22,142
No, um... No,
541
00:22:22,241 --> 00:22:23,761
- they don't seem weird to me.
- Yeah.
542
00:22:23,862 --> 00:22:25,722
I don't think I would have
believed it if it was weird.
543
00:22:25,827 --> 00:22:26,857
Yeah.
544
00:22:29,586 --> 00:22:32,586
- So, Tom wants a flat white.
- Oh!
545
00:22:32,689 --> 00:22:33,789
Theroux narrates:
It's in the nature
546
00:22:33,896 --> 00:22:35,926
of the kind of stories that I do
about belief
547
00:22:36,034 --> 00:22:37,904
that there is
a moral dimension.
548
00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:41,000
[child plays in background]
549
00:22:41,103 --> 00:22:42,933
And as I went on, I suppose,
550
00:22:43,034 --> 00:22:44,724
I pushed further
in the direction
551
00:22:44,827 --> 00:22:47,407
of exploring ideas
that were toxic,
552
00:22:47,517 --> 00:22:49,687
that were dangerous
and poisonous.
553
00:22:52,551 --> 00:22:54,381
I think it was part
of growing up...
554
00:22:55,379 --> 00:22:56,479
..part of evolving,
555
00:22:56,586 --> 00:22:57,786
that I felt more confident
556
00:22:57,896 --> 00:23:00,996
about taking on
those kinds of stories.
557
00:23:05,586 --> 00:23:07,786
You know,
this has stuff in it.
558
00:23:07,896 --> 00:23:09,516
Been around the world,
this box.
559
00:23:12,896 --> 00:23:14,096
OK...
560
00:23:15,103 --> 00:23:16,483
Where do you want it?
561
00:23:16,586 --> 00:23:20,026
Quite clearly,
people who identify as Neo-Nazis
562
00:23:20,137 --> 00:23:22,717
or white nationalists
563
00:23:22,827 --> 00:23:24,657
are right out there
on the fringe.
564
00:23:24,758 --> 00:23:26,408
So, yeah, I thought,
565
00:23:26,517 --> 00:23:29,377
I just wanted to find out
what they were thinking.
566
00:23:39,034 --> 00:23:40,974
We were doing the story
in California,
567
00:23:41,068 --> 00:23:44,588
where there is a kind of
white nationalist underground...
568
00:23:45,862 --> 00:23:47,792
- How are you doing?
- Good. Good morning.
569
00:23:47,896 --> 00:23:50,406
- Shall we come in?
- Come aboard.
570
00:23:50,517 --> 00:23:54,587
Theroux narrates: ..which in
part is made up of skinheads.
571
00:23:54,689 --> 00:23:57,169
We had an intro
to a guy called Skip.
572
00:23:57,275 --> 00:24:00,065
- Skip, I'm Louis. Yeah.
- I know. I remember.
573
00:24:00,172 --> 00:24:01,762
- Introduce us to your family,
will you?
574
00:24:01,862 --> 00:24:03,762
- How are you?
- How are you doing?
575
00:24:06,965 --> 00:24:08,375
- Come in and meet the family.
576
00:24:08,482 --> 00:24:10,172
Here, Sidney. Come on.
577
00:24:12,034 --> 00:24:14,174
This is my youngest, Sidney.
578
00:24:15,344 --> 00:24:17,104
This is number two, Rhiannon.
579
00:24:17,206 --> 00:24:18,206
- Hi, Rhiannon.
580
00:24:18,310 --> 00:24:20,030
- And this is number one,
Kerney.
581
00:24:20,137 --> 00:24:21,997
- Hi, Kerney.
- My lovely wife, Heather.
582
00:24:22,103 --> 00:24:23,383
- Hi.
- Hi, Heather.
583
00:24:23,482 --> 00:24:24,452
- My baby brother, Lenny.
584
00:24:24,551 --> 00:24:26,001
- Manny.
- How are you? Lenny.
585
00:24:26,103 --> 00:24:27,723
- Good. Lenny? Lenny.
- Lenny. Yeah.
586
00:24:27,827 --> 00:24:30,857
- Welcome to Paradise.
- Yeah.
587
00:24:30,965 --> 00:24:32,515
- So, if I told you
I was Jewish,
588
00:24:32,620 --> 00:24:34,790
would that create
a problem between us?
589
00:24:34,896 --> 00:24:36,586
- Well, because you've got
the camera right now,
590
00:24:36,689 --> 00:24:37,999
I'd allow you to stay.
591
00:24:38,103 --> 00:24:39,313
If not,
I'd probably kick your ass
592
00:24:39,413 --> 00:24:40,973
and put you
in the street somewhere.
593
00:24:41,931 --> 00:24:43,341
- For real?
- Pretty much,
594
00:24:43,448 --> 00:24:45,548
because a Jew wouldn't be here
on my property.
595
00:24:46,620 --> 00:24:48,070
Are you Jewish?
596
00:24:48,172 --> 00:24:49,522
Do you mind
if I don't answer that?
597
00:24:49,620 --> 00:24:51,170
[he laughs]
598
00:24:51,275 --> 00:24:53,275
- You with the camera,
are you?
599
00:24:53,379 --> 00:24:54,479
[they laugh]
600
00:24:54,586 --> 00:24:56,206
I'll tell you why.
I don't want...
601
00:24:56,310 --> 00:24:58,590
I'm not a racist
and I think it's...
602
00:24:58,689 --> 00:25:00,789
I actually think it's wrong
to be a racist,
603
00:25:00,896 --> 00:25:03,406
and so, I feel as though by...
604
00:25:04,551 --> 00:25:06,451
by saying
whether I'm Jewish or not,
605
00:25:06,551 --> 00:25:07,551
I'm kind of, in a way,
606
00:25:07,655 --> 00:25:10,855
acknowledging the premise
that it really matters
607
00:25:10,965 --> 00:25:12,585
when I think it shouldn't
and it doesn't.
608
00:25:12,689 --> 00:25:15,139
It was sort of
relatively new to me,
609
00:25:15,241 --> 00:25:18,551
the idea of just dedicating
a whole program
610
00:25:18,655 --> 00:25:23,065
to people whose views were
completely abhorrent and not...
611
00:25:24,344 --> 00:25:25,594
..instead of pitching it
612
00:25:25,689 --> 00:25:29,589
somewhere in a middle ground
of eccentricity,
613
00:25:29,689 --> 00:25:32,549
some degree of controversy
or questionable-ness,
614
00:25:32,655 --> 00:25:36,895
but that gave it a kind
of interesting quality.
615
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:38,900
Producer: What was that?
616
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:40,520
Well, just conflict.
617
00:25:43,137 --> 00:25:44,717
Just balls out conflict.
618
00:25:46,137 --> 00:25:47,787
- Louis' a Jew.
619
00:25:47,896 --> 00:25:49,586
I already know it.
I already know it!
620
00:25:49,689 --> 00:25:52,309
You're a Jew, that's why
you've got so much animosity.
621
00:25:52,413 --> 00:25:55,343
- OK... We can't say
you don't look like a Jew.
622
00:25:55,448 --> 00:25:57,588
- Oi. You're a Jew.
623
00:26:00,103 --> 00:26:02,863
You're part Jewish.
- Don't not say "I'm not"
624
00:26:02,965 --> 00:26:04,995
because you think
someone's going to beat you up
625
00:26:05,103 --> 00:26:06,413
'cause it's not like that
with us.
626
00:26:06,517 --> 00:26:07,687
- Why do you care?
627
00:26:07,793 --> 00:26:09,863
Why will it make any difference
to you whether I am or not?
628
00:26:09,965 --> 00:26:11,855
- Because I like to know
who's been in my house.
629
00:26:11,965 --> 00:26:13,895
- We want to know
if you're a fucking Jew
630
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:15,660
and if we let you into our house
631
00:26:15,758 --> 00:26:18,028
to film our fucking
everyday ritual...
632
00:26:18,137 --> 00:26:20,237
- Even if you are.
- Are you a fucking Jew?
633
00:26:20,344 --> 00:26:22,414
I don't feel as though,
maybe you'd disagree,
634
00:26:22,517 --> 00:26:23,477
I don't feel as though
635
00:26:23,586 --> 00:26:25,516
I've kind of
compelled you to say anything.
636
00:26:25,620 --> 00:26:27,380
I feel as though
I've been respectful
637
00:26:27,482 --> 00:26:29,412
and I appreciate that
you've let us into your house.
638
00:26:29,517 --> 00:26:30,967
- I'm not debating the fact
you've been respectful
639
00:26:31,068 --> 00:26:32,238
to my house and to my people.
640
00:26:32,344 --> 00:26:34,344
So, I honestly don't think
I would interrogate you
641
00:26:34,448 --> 00:26:36,028
to the point where if you said,
642
00:26:36,137 --> 00:26:37,477
"I don't want to talk
about that,"
643
00:26:37,586 --> 00:26:39,026
I would say, "OK, that's fine,
644
00:26:39,137 --> 00:26:40,617
"we'll talk
about something else."
645
00:26:40,724 --> 00:26:42,664
So, I'd like you to respect
me in the same way.
646
00:26:42,758 --> 00:26:44,718
Can we turn the camera off
for a second?
647
00:26:45,931 --> 00:26:48,171
Pull the plug.
Pull the plug for a second.
648
00:26:48,275 --> 00:26:49,855
What for?
649
00:26:49,965 --> 00:26:51,445
- Nothing crazy.
- [laughs]
650
00:26:51,551 --> 00:26:52,551
Don't get
all fucking alarmed.
651
00:26:52,655 --> 00:26:54,205
- No, no, no. It's fine.
- Just for free talk,
652
00:26:54,310 --> 00:26:55,660
to not feel
like we're being filmed.
653
00:26:55,758 --> 00:26:57,378
I would really rather not say.
654
00:26:57,482 --> 00:26:59,242
- I would really rather
you tell me.
655
00:26:59,965 --> 00:27:02,025
I've exposed myself.
656
00:27:02,137 --> 00:27:05,067
I've exposed my family.
657
00:27:05,172 --> 00:27:09,102
I've exposed my brothers,
my sisters and my children.
658
00:27:09,206 --> 00:27:11,166
Expose yourself now.
659
00:27:11,275 --> 00:27:13,305
- I'll answer any... I'll...
660
00:27:14,758 --> 00:27:16,858
Let's leave it at that,
can we, please?
661
00:27:16,965 --> 00:27:18,655
- We will in just a second.
662
00:27:22,172 --> 00:27:23,592
[strains and grunts]
663
00:27:24,551 --> 00:27:25,791
- Let's go inside.
664
00:27:26,551 --> 00:27:27,591
Go inside.
665
00:27:38,931 --> 00:27:41,141
[animated chatter]
666
00:27:42,517 --> 00:27:44,757
[woman sings
with acoustic guitar]
667
00:27:59,103 --> 00:28:00,863
[cheering]
668
00:28:03,103 --> 00:28:06,593
- Here's the file
about April, Lamb and Lynx.
669
00:28:06,689 --> 00:28:08,099
The woman
who was raising her kids
670
00:28:08,206 --> 00:28:11,546
to be in a sort of
Nazi pop group.
671
00:28:11,655 --> 00:28:13,545
That's what they would look like
at the time.
672
00:28:13,655 --> 00:28:15,445
That's not a brilliant picture,
but...
673
00:28:15,551 --> 00:28:16,901
Producer: What was your memory
of seeing them
674
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:18,030
for the first time, then?
675
00:28:18,137 --> 00:28:22,277
- Even though they did...
stiff-armed Nazi salutes,
676
00:28:22,379 --> 00:28:25,689
right, the two kids,
as part of their performance,
677
00:28:25,793 --> 00:28:27,763
I couldn't quite...
678
00:28:27,862 --> 00:28:30,282
It didn't fit
into any of my understanding
679
00:28:30,379 --> 00:28:32,139
of what the scene, you know,
680
00:28:32,241 --> 00:28:34,691
the Nazi or skinhead scene
was like,
681
00:28:34,793 --> 00:28:36,933
the fact there
was two little girls.
682
00:28:37,034 --> 00:28:39,934
♪ I want to tell you
about South Africa ♪
683
00:28:40,034 --> 00:28:43,664
♪ And the so-called
fight for freedom ♪
684
00:28:43,758 --> 00:28:47,238
♪ The march
for black resistance ♪
685
00:28:47,344 --> 00:28:50,794
♪ And the communists
who lead them ♪
686
00:28:50,896 --> 00:28:53,856
♪ Not too far away in Angola
687
00:28:53,965 --> 00:28:57,205
♪ And near home Zimbabwe
688
00:28:57,310 --> 00:29:00,170
♪ The Marxist Black dictators
689
00:29:00,275 --> 00:29:03,475
♪ Are looking south
in fear to see ♪
690
00:29:03,586 --> 00:29:05,066
♪ Strikeforce
691
00:29:05,172 --> 00:29:06,522
♪ White survival
692
00:29:06,620 --> 00:29:09,000
♪ Strikeforce, yeah
693
00:29:09,103 --> 00:29:11,793
♪ Strikeforce gonna kill
their rivals ♪
694
00:29:11,896 --> 00:29:15,546
♪ Strikeforce into
the devil's lair. ♪
695
00:29:15,655 --> 00:29:18,025
- What is the idea behind...
696
00:29:18,137 --> 00:29:19,787
..creating this group
out of them?
697
00:29:19,896 --> 00:29:21,856
- I think they're
going to be an example
698
00:29:21,965 --> 00:29:23,585
and they're going to show
699
00:29:23,689 --> 00:29:26,449
how being proud of your race
700
00:29:26,551 --> 00:29:29,101
is something that would be
very appealing.
701
00:29:29,206 --> 00:29:32,406
You know, I mean, what young,
red-blooded American boy
702
00:29:32,517 --> 00:29:35,027
isn't going to find
two blonde twins,
703
00:29:35,137 --> 00:29:36,757
16 years old,
704
00:29:36,862 --> 00:29:39,412
singing about white pride
and pride in your race,
705
00:29:39,517 --> 00:29:41,717
wh...? Who...?
706
00:29:41,827 --> 00:29:44,137
Very few are not gonna find
that very appealing.
707
00:29:44,241 --> 00:29:46,721
You could see that...
708
00:29:46,827 --> 00:29:50,447
..they were both...you know,
wanting to be dutiful daughters
709
00:29:50,551 --> 00:29:52,621
and respectful of their mum
710
00:29:52,724 --> 00:29:54,724
and sort of pay lip service
to the beliefs,
711
00:29:54,827 --> 00:29:58,137
but that it didn't
come that naturally to them.
712
00:29:58,241 --> 00:29:59,451
Are there things
that they're forbidden,
713
00:29:59,551 --> 00:30:00,761
that other kids have,
714
00:30:00,862 --> 00:30:02,482
things that you deny them?
715
00:30:03,482 --> 00:30:04,722
- Gameboys, we don't...
716
00:30:04,827 --> 00:30:09,027
- Yeah, I'm not much
for the Nintendo computer games.
717
00:30:09,137 --> 00:30:11,547
- What about on racial terms,
though?
718
00:30:11,655 --> 00:30:12,825
- Oh, we've got
Ethnic Cleansing,
719
00:30:12,931 --> 00:30:14,901
but we don't play that
very often.
720
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:18,380
- What's that?
- That's a...a computer game
721
00:30:18,482 --> 00:30:20,102
that the National Alliance
puts out
722
00:30:20,206 --> 00:30:22,376
called...it's called
Ethnic Cleansing.
723
00:30:22,482 --> 00:30:25,722
It's basically a shoot-'em-up
computer game
724
00:30:25,827 --> 00:30:29,587
in which, basically, a skinhead
goes through a ghetto
725
00:30:29,689 --> 00:30:32,029
and shoots Blacks and Mexicans.
726
00:30:32,137 --> 00:30:34,447
- Do you like it?
- Mm-hm.
727
00:30:34,551 --> 00:30:37,551
It's really hard, though,
'cause, of course,
728
00:30:37,655 --> 00:30:40,965
all the people that you shoot
have guns, too.
729
00:30:41,068 --> 00:30:42,588
- They're shooting back.
730
00:30:42,689 --> 00:30:44,209
They hide in bushes and stuff.
731
00:30:44,310 --> 00:30:47,720
They're like perched up
on basketball hoops
732
00:30:47,827 --> 00:30:49,617
and stuff,
climbing in trees and stuff.
733
00:30:49,724 --> 00:30:51,074
So, you've got to watch out,
734
00:30:51,172 --> 00:30:52,722
and then when you hear this
gorilla sound,
735
00:30:52,827 --> 00:30:54,027
they make gorilla sounds.
736
00:30:54,137 --> 00:30:55,897
It goes, "Oo-oo-oo,"
like that,
737
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,170
and you go, wee, like that,
and then you shoot it.
738
00:30:58,275 --> 00:31:00,275
Is that a good idea,
do you think, April?
739
00:31:00,379 --> 00:31:02,969
- It seems a little, er...
- Vulgar?
740
00:31:04,068 --> 00:31:06,828
- OK.
[April laughs]
741
00:31:06,931 --> 00:31:09,171
♪ They call me Nazi
and I'm proud of that ♪
742
00:31:09,275 --> 00:31:11,895
♪ They call me racist
and I shout it out loud ♪
743
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,280
♪ I'm proud of my race
and proud of my land ♪
744
00:31:14,379 --> 00:31:16,519
♪ White brothers and sisters
come raise your hand ♪
745
00:31:16,620 --> 00:31:18,760
♪ We're an 88
rock 'n' roll band ♪
746
00:31:18,862 --> 00:31:21,282
♪ We're an 88
rock 'n' roll band... ♪
747
00:31:21,379 --> 00:31:25,069
- April was just April,
she always will be.
748
00:31:25,172 --> 00:31:26,622
She'll always have
the same views.
749
00:31:26,724 --> 00:31:28,174
She's incapable of...
750
00:31:28,275 --> 00:31:30,095
I would argue,
like, at this point,
751
00:31:30,206 --> 00:31:32,136
incapable of change.
752
00:31:32,241 --> 00:31:34,381
She sees everything
through a racial lens.
753
00:31:34,482 --> 00:31:36,412
She never switches off.
754
00:31:36,517 --> 00:31:37,997
- This is my dad, Bill Gaede.
755
00:31:38,103 --> 00:31:39,903
- Bill Gaede.
- Yeah.
756
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,140
Right now, all the people
757
00:31:42,241 --> 00:31:43,521
have been
so politically correct,
758
00:31:43,620 --> 00:31:44,620
they wouldn't say shit
759
00:31:44,724 --> 00:31:47,384
if they had a mouth full of it,
you know?
760
00:31:47,482 --> 00:31:49,862
But now that people
are beginning...
761
00:31:49,965 --> 00:31:52,025
to see what's going on
and they're beginning...
762
00:31:52,137 --> 00:31:53,857
their backbone's beginning
to straighten up a little bit
763
00:31:53,965 --> 00:31:54,995
and get a little stiffer...
764
00:31:56,103 --> 00:31:57,283
..all the white people are.
765
00:31:57,379 --> 00:31:58,719
- I'm a multiculturalist.
766
00:31:58,827 --> 00:32:00,307
- Are you?
- Yeah.
767
00:32:00,413 --> 00:32:02,033
- Do you usually date
white women?
768
00:32:04,586 --> 00:32:05,826
So far.
769
00:32:08,103 --> 00:32:09,413
That's what
you find attractive.
770
00:32:09,517 --> 00:32:10,757
Does Jewish count as white?
771
00:32:10,862 --> 00:32:12,452
- No.
- No, not in our books.
772
00:32:12,551 --> 00:32:14,311
Why not?
[Bill laughs]
773
00:32:15,758 --> 00:32:17,478
Theroux narrates:
After the film came out,
774
00:32:17,586 --> 00:32:19,406
it caused quite a stir
775
00:32:19,517 --> 00:32:21,307
and, for a while,
776
00:32:21,413 --> 00:32:25,143
well, it led to more coverage.
777
00:32:25,241 --> 00:32:27,031
Sometimes, I had the sense
they were trolling the media
778
00:32:27,137 --> 00:32:29,687
because I remember
there was a moment
779
00:32:29,793 --> 00:32:31,143
when a news story appeared
780
00:32:31,241 --> 00:32:33,721
about T-shirts
that they were wearing
781
00:32:33,827 --> 00:32:35,997
with a kind of
Hitler smiley face.
782
00:32:39,068 --> 00:32:43,028
Then it went quiet, until 2011.
783
00:32:43,137 --> 00:32:44,657
Newsreader:
We first introduced you
784
00:32:44,758 --> 00:32:47,168
to twins Lamb and Lynx Gaede
five years ago,
785
00:32:47,275 --> 00:32:49,025
but these adorable,
freckle-faced twins
786
00:32:49,137 --> 00:32:50,927
weren't singing songs of love,
787
00:32:51,034 --> 00:32:53,074
but songs of hate.
788
00:32:53,172 --> 00:32:55,412
Theroux narrates:
A glossy daytime TV segment
789
00:32:55,517 --> 00:32:58,857
reported that the twins
had renounced their beliefs.
790
00:32:58,965 --> 00:33:00,615
Newsreader: But now, at age 19,
791
00:33:00,724 --> 00:33:03,174
the young duo
formerly known as Prussian Blue
792
00:33:03,275 --> 00:33:06,405
say they've changed
their neo-Nazi ways.
793
00:33:09,689 --> 00:33:11,549
Theroux narrates: They describe
themselves now as very liberal
794
00:33:11,655 --> 00:33:14,335
and have openly apologised
for the things they said
795
00:33:14,448 --> 00:33:15,758
and did in the past.
796
00:33:17,310 --> 00:33:19,520
Hello?
797
00:33:19,620 --> 00:33:21,240
- Hey.
[dog barks]
798
00:33:21,344 --> 00:33:22,624
- Oh, my goodness.
799
00:33:22,724 --> 00:33:25,834
I can see,
from where I'm sitting,
800
00:33:25,931 --> 00:33:27,971
I'm going to say
that's Lynx on the left
801
00:33:28,068 --> 00:33:29,788
and Lamb on the right.
802
00:33:29,896 --> 00:33:31,996
This is Lynx and I'm Lamb.
803
00:33:32,103 --> 00:33:34,243
- Yeah, that's what I thought.
- Yeah.
804
00:33:34,344 --> 00:33:35,724
And who's the little person?
805
00:33:35,827 --> 00:33:38,097
- This is my daughter, Oslo.
806
00:33:38,206 --> 00:33:39,586
- It's lovely to see you.
807
00:33:39,689 --> 00:33:43,589
It's 16 years
since we last spoke.
808
00:33:43,689 --> 00:33:44,689
Yeah.
809
00:33:44,793 --> 00:33:46,863
- I think you'd probably
be entitled
810
00:33:46,965 --> 00:33:49,235
to be a little angry...
811
00:33:49,344 --> 00:33:53,104
..about what happened
to you, right?
812
00:33:53,206 --> 00:33:55,616
That you were too young.
You were ten years old
813
00:33:55,724 --> 00:33:57,414
when you were being put on stage
814
00:33:57,517 --> 00:33:59,757
singing...
white nationalist music.
815
00:33:59,862 --> 00:34:02,452
- Mm-hm.
- Do you feel that at all?
816
00:34:02,551 --> 00:34:03,861
Not any more.
817
00:34:03,965 --> 00:34:05,165
When we were teenagers,
818
00:34:05,275 --> 00:34:06,755
there definitely was
a lot of resentment
819
00:34:06,862 --> 00:34:09,282
and anger and, you know,
820
00:34:09,379 --> 00:34:11,759
blame being placed
upon my mum,
821
00:34:11,862 --> 00:34:15,552
but now it's more just pity.
822
00:34:15,655 --> 00:34:18,475
Like, those little girls
were so separate
823
00:34:18,586 --> 00:34:19,966
from what we are now.
824
00:34:20,068 --> 00:34:22,998
Like, we're very removed,
even watching it,
825
00:34:23,103 --> 00:34:25,793
it's very hard to even
kind of comprehend.
826
00:34:25,896 --> 00:34:29,716
- We didn't understand fully,
like...
827
00:34:29,827 --> 00:34:32,827
..how controversial
the subject was.
828
00:34:32,931 --> 00:34:35,791
Racism and those beliefs,
829
00:34:35,896 --> 00:34:38,406
they are taught
and they are learned,
830
00:34:38,517 --> 00:34:42,587
and they can also be unlearned
and untaught.
831
00:34:53,551 --> 00:34:54,481
Lunch, guys.
832
00:34:54,586 --> 00:34:55,966
Do you want to come down
for lunch?
833
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:58,310
- Yeah.
834
00:34:58,413 --> 00:35:00,973
- Thanks, Fred. Al?
835
00:35:04,034 --> 00:35:05,904
Our beliefs
are part of the quest
836
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,620
that we pass on
to those around us,
837
00:35:08,724 --> 00:35:09,864
and especially to our children,
838
00:35:09,965 --> 00:35:12,445
so it carries with it
a weight of responsibility.
839
00:35:14,137 --> 00:35:15,787
And there's also
the undeniable fact
840
00:35:15,896 --> 00:35:19,206
that many of those
most in need of belief,
841
00:35:19,310 --> 00:35:21,480
those searching for it
most fervently,
842
00:35:21,586 --> 00:35:25,026
have some vulnerability
about them.
843
00:35:25,137 --> 00:35:26,757
We should have cameras
around more often,
844
00:35:26,862 --> 00:35:28,142
I think everyone's
a bit better behaved.
845
00:35:28,241 --> 00:35:29,831
- Do you want something else?
846
00:35:29,931 --> 00:35:33,241
- That's definitely something
I've noticed over the years.
847
00:35:36,068 --> 00:35:37,478
- Can you give us a little tour?
848
00:35:38,655 --> 00:35:40,095
Well, this is it.
849
00:35:40,206 --> 00:35:41,656
I have a little altar
850
00:35:41,758 --> 00:35:43,618
to help me remember.
851
00:35:45,655 --> 00:35:48,715
- You know, there's something
in me that wants to believe
852
00:35:48,827 --> 00:35:50,137
and there's also something in me
853
00:35:50,241 --> 00:35:53,481
that stops me from believing,
just in general.
854
00:35:53,586 --> 00:35:55,476
You know, I get moved
in churches.
855
00:35:55,586 --> 00:35:58,476
When I go to a cathedral
or a church or...
856
00:35:58,586 --> 00:36:00,896
..a mosque, or whatever
it may be.
857
00:36:01,793 --> 00:36:02,833
A temple...
858
00:36:05,206 --> 00:36:10,096
I can, um, I can find
that powerful experience...
859
00:36:11,103 --> 00:36:12,143
..and I envy people
860
00:36:12,241 --> 00:36:15,861
who have unconditional
or mystical beliefs...
861
00:36:17,551 --> 00:36:19,101
..and, at the same time,
862
00:36:19,206 --> 00:36:21,066
I can't quite
embrace that myself.
863
00:36:21,172 --> 00:36:23,072
[man yells]
Oh, God, oh, Jesus.
864
00:36:23,172 --> 00:36:26,932
Touch! To the Holy Ghost.
Touch! To the Holy Ghost.
865
00:36:27,034 --> 00:36:30,764
Touch! Touch! Touch!
866
00:36:30,862 --> 00:36:32,172
That's His power.
867
00:36:32,275 --> 00:36:34,615
[woman cries and mutters]
868
00:36:34,724 --> 00:36:36,864
- [whispers] Thank you, Jesus.
869
00:36:36,965 --> 00:36:38,515
[crying] Completely healed.
870
00:36:39,655 --> 00:36:41,405
- Are you OK?
- She's wonderful.
871
00:36:41,517 --> 00:36:43,687
- Are you sure?
- Oh, yes, I know. I know.
872
00:36:43,793 --> 00:36:44,763
[woman laughs]
873
00:36:44,862 --> 00:36:46,482
I used to be a homosexual.
874
00:36:46,586 --> 00:36:48,826
- She was. She got delivered
during the revival.
875
00:36:48,931 --> 00:36:51,101
- I used to smoke pot.
876
00:36:51,206 --> 00:36:54,896
I used to smoke cigarettes.
877
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:58,380
I used to live at the bars,
878
00:36:58,482 --> 00:36:59,932
gay bars, that is.
879
00:37:00,034 --> 00:37:02,484
I'm 30 and... Oh!
880
00:37:02,586 --> 00:37:05,336
I'm 30
and I was gay all my life,
881
00:37:05,448 --> 00:37:08,378
- but the Lord delivered me.
- Yeah.
882
00:37:08,482 --> 00:37:10,032
It seems like every day,
883
00:37:10,137 --> 00:37:12,277
I get delivered
from something else
884
00:37:12,379 --> 00:37:13,789
that I didn't even know I had.
885
00:37:14,655 --> 00:37:16,235
- Transmission cards...
886
00:37:17,827 --> 00:37:19,137
..from back in the day.
887
00:37:19,241 --> 00:37:21,311
Season two of 'Weird Weekends'.
888
00:37:21,413 --> 00:37:22,693
"The boy from the BBC
889
00:37:22,793 --> 00:37:24,723
"makes a host of new friends
890
00:37:24,827 --> 00:37:27,237
"in places
you've never seen before."
891
00:37:28,965 --> 00:37:32,275
Marshall Sylver...
[Aussie accent] Hello?
892
00:37:34,310 --> 00:37:37,210
[sing-song] Marshall Sylver...
893
00:37:37,310 --> 00:37:39,070
[normal voice]
Passion, Profit and Power.
894
00:37:41,034 --> 00:37:44,074
"It's not enough to learn.
One must become."
895
00:37:45,241 --> 00:37:48,971
It's like...
Pound Shop Nietzsche.
896
00:37:49,068 --> 00:37:51,898
Producer: How did you
become aware of him?
897
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,450
I had been watching TV
late one night in America
898
00:37:54,551 --> 00:37:57,211
and I saw an infomercial.
899
00:37:57,310 --> 00:38:01,000
Imagine being able
to overcome your limitations,
900
00:38:01,103 --> 00:38:03,973
to believe in new-found powers
and abilities,
901
00:38:04,068 --> 00:38:05,338
and to use those skills
902
00:38:05,448 --> 00:38:07,338
to create the life
of your dream.
903
00:38:07,448 --> 00:38:10,828
You know, I'd been a fan
of infomercials generally,
904
00:38:10,931 --> 00:38:13,171
and especially the ones
that were about getting rich
905
00:38:13,275 --> 00:38:15,235
or changing your life,
906
00:38:15,344 --> 00:38:18,104
because they're like
spiritual figures in a way,
907
00:38:18,206 --> 00:38:20,586
the infomercial gurus...
908
00:38:20,689 --> 00:38:22,239
..but they're using
the language,
909
00:38:22,344 --> 00:38:24,934
the sort of vernacular language
of American commerce
910
00:38:25,034 --> 00:38:27,344
to sell you
life-changing results.
911
00:38:27,448 --> 00:38:29,998
Take it to a more
practical level now.
912
00:38:30,103 --> 00:38:33,483
Imagine being able to duplicate
the mind and thoughts,
913
00:38:33,586 --> 00:38:34,996
the body and physiology
914
00:38:35,103 --> 00:38:37,973
and the emotional intensity
of the ultra wealthy
915
00:38:38,068 --> 00:38:39,688
to produce wealth
and financial abundance
916
00:38:39,793 --> 00:38:41,003
in your life.
917
00:38:41,103 --> 00:38:43,033
When would be
a good time to start
918
00:38:43,137 --> 00:38:44,657
creating a life of adventure
919
00:38:44,758 --> 00:38:46,548
rather than a life
of maintenance?
920
00:38:46,655 --> 00:38:47,785
How about right now?
921
00:38:47,896 --> 00:38:50,166
Welcome
to Passion, Profit and Power.
922
00:38:50,275 --> 00:38:52,925
My name is Marshall Sylver.
923
00:38:53,034 --> 00:38:56,524
I recognised in me a tug
towards the simplicity
924
00:38:56,620 --> 00:38:58,930
that the...that
the message contained.
925
00:38:59,034 --> 00:39:02,694
You know, the idea that,
"Oh, it's very simple.
926
00:39:02,793 --> 00:39:04,973
"You just do one, two,
three, four, five
927
00:39:05,068 --> 00:39:07,588
"and then you become
a multimillionaire,
928
00:39:07,689 --> 00:39:09,719
"successful, and in charge
of your life."
929
00:39:09,827 --> 00:39:10,757
There's a part of me
930
00:39:10,862 --> 00:39:14,212
that craves that level
of simplicity
931
00:39:14,310 --> 00:39:17,240
and almost finds the idea
of the self-sacrifice
932
00:39:17,344 --> 00:39:20,074
that that entails
quite appealing.
933
00:39:21,034 --> 00:39:22,934
At an auditorium in Las Vegas,
934
00:39:23,034 --> 00:39:25,904
Marshall was presenting
a day-long free seminar
935
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,520
for local businesspeople
to show them techniques
936
00:39:28,620 --> 00:39:31,450
that would help them
become more successful.
937
00:39:32,206 --> 00:39:34,276
- A lot of people!
938
00:39:34,379 --> 00:39:36,339
So, what's in it
for Marshall, then?
939
00:39:36,448 --> 00:39:39,308
Is he also hoping to sell
stuff to these people later?
940
00:39:39,413 --> 00:39:41,033
Correct. So, he knows,
941
00:39:41,137 --> 00:39:43,787
later on,
after you give to people,
942
00:39:43,896 --> 00:39:46,066
they'll want more and you
give them what they want.
943
00:39:46,172 --> 00:39:47,102
They'll pay the price.
944
00:39:47,206 --> 00:39:48,966
I've spent
tens of thousand dollars
945
00:39:49,068 --> 00:39:50,928
on Marshall Sylver,
on his seminars.
946
00:39:51,034 --> 00:39:52,214
- You have?
- Correct.
947
00:39:52,310 --> 00:39:54,030
- Tens of thousands?
Correct.
948
00:39:56,137 --> 00:39:57,477
- The way it worked was...
949
00:39:58,379 --> 00:39:59,619
..you see the infomercial,
950
00:39:59,724 --> 00:40:01,764
you go along to a free event.
951
00:40:01,862 --> 00:40:04,172
So, that's where
I first intersected
952
00:40:04,275 --> 00:40:05,685
with Marshall's story.
953
00:40:05,793 --> 00:40:08,833
Announcer: So, I want to give
a great big Las Vegas welcome
954
00:40:08,931 --> 00:40:11,281
to Mr Marshall Sylver.
955
00:40:11,379 --> 00:40:12,659
Theroux narrates:
The event was really a chance
956
00:40:12,758 --> 00:40:14,928
for Marshall to sell
his other products,
957
00:40:15,034 --> 00:40:16,484
one called Turning Point,
958
00:40:16,586 --> 00:40:19,096
a $500 weekend
of personal growth,
959
00:40:19,206 --> 00:40:23,066
and the other for $5,000
was a ten-week course
960
00:40:23,172 --> 00:40:25,382
called the Millionaire
Mentorship Program.
961
00:40:25,482 --> 00:40:27,282
- Stand up
and say, "Oh, yeah!"
962
00:40:27,379 --> 00:40:28,309
Crowd: Oh, yeah!
963
00:40:28,413 --> 00:40:31,723
- If you're still seated,
you're not going to get it.
964
00:40:31,827 --> 00:40:32,967
Stand up for me.
965
00:40:33,068 --> 00:40:34,448
Theroux narrates:
And it's a portrait
966
00:40:34,551 --> 00:40:35,901
of a certain slice of America
967
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,030
'cause, you know, it exists,
probably, all over,
968
00:40:38,137 --> 00:40:41,027
but especially America
and especially in Las Vegas.
969
00:40:41,137 --> 00:40:42,307
- A multi-millionaire,
how many of you...
970
00:40:42,413 --> 00:40:44,313
- The cult of getting rich,
971
00:40:44,413 --> 00:40:46,523
the importance
of being a success.
972
00:40:46,620 --> 00:40:48,210
- When I meet him,
should I call him...
973
00:40:48,310 --> 00:40:49,660
- How should I address him?
Man: Marshall's fine.
974
00:40:49,758 --> 00:40:50,688
- Not Mr Sylver?
975
00:40:50,793 --> 00:40:52,453
- No, you don't have
to call him Mr Sylver!
976
00:40:53,413 --> 00:40:54,523
- Good to see you.
977
00:40:54,620 --> 00:40:56,340
Thanks for taking the time
to speak to us.
978
00:40:56,448 --> 00:40:57,588
- Of course.
- Thanks for inviting us
979
00:40:57,689 --> 00:40:59,099
- to your event.
- I'm so glad you're here.
980
00:40:59,206 --> 00:41:00,376
- Welcome to Vegas.
- It's amazing.
981
00:41:00,482 --> 00:41:04,002
I feel like you've got
quite a powerful effect.
982
00:41:04,103 --> 00:41:06,343
You know,
you've got a very steady gaze.
983
00:41:06,448 --> 00:41:08,278
- Oh, you're just saying that!
- No, no, seriously.
984
00:41:08,379 --> 00:41:10,169
Actually, what's weird is
I find it hard to concentrate
985
00:41:10,275 --> 00:41:11,785
on what
you're actually saying...
986
00:41:11,896 --> 00:41:13,616
Because it feels like
you might just relax...
987
00:41:13,724 --> 00:41:15,524
..because I feel like
I'm falling into your eyes.
988
00:41:15,620 --> 00:41:16,860
- ..and fall over.
- Do you know what I mean?
989
00:41:16,965 --> 00:41:18,475
- Of course not.
- No!
990
00:41:18,586 --> 00:41:20,856
- You know, that false front
of friendliness
991
00:41:20,965 --> 00:41:22,375
that he presented,
992
00:41:22,482 --> 00:41:24,382
this sort of
vigilant assessment
993
00:41:24,482 --> 00:41:26,522
of what's going on,
like, he was kind of...
994
00:41:26,620 --> 00:41:29,170
behind his smiles
995
00:41:29,275 --> 00:41:31,685
was this suspicion
996
00:41:31,793 --> 00:41:34,793
and, um...
And a sense of distance.
997
00:41:34,896 --> 00:41:36,716
- Even if you think
we're only telling you to do it
998
00:41:36,827 --> 00:41:38,167
for our personal gain,
999
00:41:38,275 --> 00:41:40,025
how many of you
are willing to trust us
1000
00:41:40,137 --> 00:41:42,547
and follow through
and do what we tell you to do?
1001
00:41:42,655 --> 00:41:43,855
Theroux narrates:
So, I went along
1002
00:41:43,965 --> 00:41:46,095
to his Turning Point seminar,
the weekend-long event,
1003
00:41:46,206 --> 00:41:49,066
hoping to get the measure
of the clientele he attracted
1004
00:41:49,172 --> 00:41:50,932
and what he was offering.
1005
00:41:57,758 --> 00:42:00,518
- What has attacked
your self-esteem so much?
1006
00:42:00,620 --> 00:42:02,000
What is it that brings
the tears up
1007
00:42:02,103 --> 00:42:03,173
inside of your heart?
1008
00:42:03,275 --> 00:42:06,755
- I know it's just, like,
right within my grasp
1009
00:42:06,862 --> 00:42:08,172
to have everything I want.
1010
00:42:08,275 --> 00:42:11,445
Won't put enough effort into it
to go and get it or do it,
1011
00:42:11,551 --> 00:42:13,211
and then I feel defeated again.
1012
00:42:13,310 --> 00:42:15,210
It's becoming
a really vicious cycle
1013
00:42:15,310 --> 00:42:17,280
and it's starting
to take its toll on me.
1014
00:42:17,379 --> 00:42:18,789
- You're afraid right now
1015
00:42:18,896 --> 00:42:20,856
that time is running out,
aren't you?
1016
00:42:20,965 --> 00:42:22,545
- Yes, I am.
- Thank you. That's the fear.
1017
00:42:22,655 --> 00:42:24,335
Theroux narrates:
What came across was that
1018
00:42:24,448 --> 00:42:26,828
these were people
with real needs...
1019
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:30,280
- What do you want?
1020
00:42:32,344 --> 00:42:33,484
Confidence.
1021
00:42:33,586 --> 00:42:35,446
- ..investing time,
energy and money
1022
00:42:35,551 --> 00:42:37,001
in something that...
1023
00:42:37,896 --> 00:42:39,586
..seems evidently...
1024
00:42:40,586 --> 00:42:41,786
..you know, questionable,
1025
00:42:41,896 --> 00:42:43,996
but, at the same time,
there's some sadness there
1026
00:42:44,103 --> 00:42:45,523
and then
there's a little part of you
1027
00:42:45,620 --> 00:42:46,790
that wants to believe.
1028
00:42:46,896 --> 00:42:49,066
- Did you grow up poor?
- Um...yeah.
1029
00:42:49,172 --> 00:42:50,762
- OK. So, what do you want?
1030
00:42:50,862 --> 00:42:51,862
You don't want
financial stability.
1031
00:42:51,965 --> 00:42:53,445
You want to live better,
don't you?
1032
00:42:53,551 --> 00:42:55,001
- Yes.
- You want more money.
1033
00:42:55,103 --> 00:42:56,723
- Yes.
- It's OK to want more money.
1034
00:42:56,827 --> 00:42:59,787
I feel a little bit like
there's peer pressure on me
1035
00:42:59,896 --> 00:43:02,096
- to put my hand up.
- Mm-hm.
1036
00:43:02,206 --> 00:43:03,786
It's part of hypnosis.
1037
00:43:03,896 --> 00:43:05,376
He's kind of hypnotising us.
1038
00:43:05,482 --> 00:43:07,212
- Oh, yeah.
What if it were true
1039
00:43:07,310 --> 00:43:09,100
that Marshall
lived in a mobile home
1040
00:43:09,206 --> 00:43:10,336
and was on welfare?
1041
00:43:11,137 --> 00:43:12,587
What if it were true
1042
00:43:12,689 --> 00:43:14,969
that he's never even
kissed a girl in his life?
1043
00:43:15,068 --> 00:43:16,788
- Yeah,
and he goes off the stage
1044
00:43:16,896 --> 00:43:18,926
and cackles and says,
"Those suckers!"
1045
00:43:19,034 --> 00:43:20,764
- Right.
- Yeah, what about that?
1046
00:43:20,862 --> 00:43:22,522
Well, what if that were true
1047
00:43:22,620 --> 00:43:24,860
and, yet, because of their
perception of what he is,
1048
00:43:24,965 --> 00:43:27,585
they change their life
and they became millionaires
1049
00:43:27,689 --> 00:43:29,449
and they had
successful relationships?
1050
00:43:29,551 --> 00:43:30,481
So, you're saying
1051
00:43:30,586 --> 00:43:34,136
even a charlatan
can create real results?
1052
00:43:34,241 --> 00:43:35,141
- Oh, definitely.
1053
00:43:35,241 --> 00:43:37,551
There are charlatans,
as you say.
1054
00:43:37,655 --> 00:43:38,785
And yet...
1055
00:43:40,034 --> 00:43:42,794
..if it's a charlatan
that creates a miracle,
1056
00:43:42,896 --> 00:43:44,756
the key is that
the miracle was created.
1057
00:43:44,862 --> 00:43:46,312
Does the millionaire
membership plan
1058
00:43:46,413 --> 00:43:48,693
- really work, really?
- No.
1059
00:43:48,793 --> 00:43:50,143
- No?
- Not for you.
1060
00:43:50,241 --> 00:43:53,241
- No?
- It would never work for you...
1061
00:43:53,344 --> 00:43:54,834
..'cause you have to have
the faith of a mustard seed
1062
00:43:54,931 --> 00:43:56,001
and you have none.
1063
00:43:56,103 --> 00:43:57,693
I can teach you skills.
1064
00:43:57,793 --> 00:43:59,663
You still have to get over
your scepticism,
1065
00:43:59,758 --> 00:44:01,138
which is something you learned,
by the way.
1066
00:44:01,241 --> 00:44:03,341
So, as much as it seems
like your scepticism
1067
00:44:03,448 --> 00:44:04,858
- is healthy...
- Yeah.
1068
00:44:04,965 --> 00:44:07,475
..my belief in something
is also as scary
1069
00:44:07,586 --> 00:44:09,406
as your scepticism
is scary to you.
1070
00:44:09,517 --> 00:44:12,787
Not that long after
we finished filming...
1071
00:44:13,758 --> 00:44:16,028
..there was a prosecution.
1072
00:44:16,137 --> 00:44:17,997
Nine counts of theft
1073
00:44:18,103 --> 00:44:21,313
by obtaining money
under false pretences.
1074
00:44:21,413 --> 00:44:22,483
Newsreader: Marshall Sylver
1075
00:44:22,586 --> 00:44:25,446
faces up to 45 years
in prison if convicted.
1076
00:44:25,551 --> 00:44:27,621
Jean Puffer knows Sylver well.
1077
00:44:27,724 --> 00:44:29,244
He paid four grand
to join the program,
1078
00:44:29,344 --> 00:44:30,834
hoping to use
Sylver's techniques
1079
00:44:30,931 --> 00:44:32,661
to start his own business.
1080
00:44:32,758 --> 00:44:34,378
But when his venture
never took off,
1081
00:44:34,482 --> 00:44:36,072
he wanted the cheerful refund
1082
00:44:36,172 --> 00:44:37,932
he claims Sylver promised.
1083
00:44:38,034 --> 00:44:40,004
What he says he got
was anything but cheerful.
1084
00:44:40,103 --> 00:44:41,763
Some of the stories
that came back
1085
00:44:41,862 --> 00:44:43,382
were kind of extraordinary.
1086
00:44:43,482 --> 00:44:45,592
Like, people who'd paid
thousands of dollars
1087
00:44:45,689 --> 00:44:48,859
to be on the program
were assigned a mentor,
1088
00:44:48,965 --> 00:44:50,995
only to have the mentor,
1089
00:44:51,103 --> 00:44:54,383
in one case,
come in and live with the guy,
1090
00:44:54,482 --> 00:44:56,002
the person, the student...
1091
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:57,930
..for several months
1092
00:44:58,034 --> 00:44:59,314
and then steal his car
1093
00:44:59,413 --> 00:45:01,763
and raise $10,000
on his credit card.
1094
00:45:01,862 --> 00:45:03,142
Newsreader:
We tried to find him today
1095
00:45:03,241 --> 00:45:05,621
at his 9,000 square foot home,
but he wasn't there.
1096
00:45:05,724 --> 00:45:07,344
- In the end,
there was a hung jury,
1097
00:45:07,448 --> 00:45:09,478
so there was no conviction.
1098
00:45:09,586 --> 00:45:12,586
It turned out he had quite
a colourful pre-history.
1099
00:45:12,689 --> 00:45:14,929
He'd done six months
in federal prison
1100
00:45:15,034 --> 00:45:17,694
for counterfeiting $50 bills.
1101
00:45:17,793 --> 00:45:19,383
And there was also a suit
brought by a woman
1102
00:45:19,482 --> 00:45:20,522
who worked for him
1103
00:45:20,620 --> 00:45:23,520
claiming verbal
sexual harassment.
1104
00:45:23,620 --> 00:45:26,590
She said he told her
that he could give her
1105
00:45:26,689 --> 00:45:28,279
a one-hour orgasm.
1106
00:45:30,172 --> 00:45:34,242
In the end, he settled
before it went to trial.
1107
00:45:34,344 --> 00:45:38,104
But it was just a lot
of cheesy, creepy stuff.
1108
00:45:38,206 --> 00:45:40,516
[cheering and applause]
1109
00:45:40,620 --> 00:45:43,410
Wow! Oh, good. Hi, sweetie.
1110
00:45:43,517 --> 00:45:45,027
- Now, he's still doing it,
1111
00:45:45,137 --> 00:45:47,687
in the same
slick video packages,
1112
00:45:47,793 --> 00:45:51,483
with their cheesy effects
and catchphrases,
1113
00:45:51,586 --> 00:45:54,066
seemingly
as successful as ever.
1114
00:45:54,172 --> 00:45:56,522
- I could take any one
of you in this room,
1115
00:45:56,620 --> 00:45:57,930
and some I already have,
1116
00:45:58,034 --> 00:45:59,594
and I certainly could take
any one of you
1117
00:45:59,689 --> 00:46:01,589
watching this from your home,
1118
00:46:01,689 --> 00:46:04,789
and, within 12 months,
make you a millionaire.
1119
00:46:04,896 --> 00:46:07,686
If you'd like me to pick you,
you say, "Oh, yeah."
1120
00:46:07,793 --> 00:46:09,723
Crowd: Oh, yeah.
- Oh, yeah.
1121
00:46:09,827 --> 00:46:13,407
- The number one tool you need
to learn to make more money
1122
00:46:13,517 --> 00:46:16,067
are the skills
of irresistible influence.
1123
00:46:16,172 --> 00:46:18,142
Irresistible influence
is getting someone
1124
00:46:18,241 --> 00:46:20,241
to beg you
for what you're selling
1125
00:46:20,344 --> 00:46:23,004
and have them believe
it was their idea. [chuckles]
1126
00:46:23,103 --> 00:46:25,283
Gets me giddy every time
I think about it.
1127
00:46:25,379 --> 00:46:27,379
How many of you in this room,
and you at home,
1128
00:46:27,482 --> 00:46:28,662
would want someone
1129
00:46:28,758 --> 00:46:30,968
to influence you
to buy something for $3,000
1130
00:46:31,068 --> 00:46:33,028
that came back
as over 200 million?
1131
00:46:33,137 --> 00:46:34,927
Put your hand up.
If you're at home,
1132
00:46:35,034 --> 00:46:37,074
type "oh, yeah"
into the chat.
1133
00:46:37,172 --> 00:46:38,552
If it's too difficult to say,
1134
00:46:38,655 --> 00:46:40,585
"Oh, yeah,"
or type in, "Oh, yeah",
1135
00:46:40,689 --> 00:46:43,479
your life's already
guaranteed to suck.
1136
00:46:43,586 --> 00:46:44,996
Guaranteed to suck!
1137
00:46:46,344 --> 00:46:48,764
[crowd chants 'Trump'
repeatedly]
1138
00:46:50,517 --> 00:46:53,517
- This is something that they
haven't really seen before.
1139
00:46:53,620 --> 00:46:54,930
I think they're saying
1140
00:46:55,034 --> 00:46:57,834
they've never seen
anything like this before.
1141
00:46:57,931 --> 00:47:00,551
Our country
does not win any more.
1142
00:47:00,655 --> 00:47:02,655
We don't win against ISIS.
1143
00:47:02,758 --> 00:47:04,718
We don't win with trade.
1144
00:47:04,827 --> 00:47:06,657
We will begin working
1145
00:47:06,758 --> 00:47:09,588
on an impenetrable, physical,
1146
00:47:09,689 --> 00:47:15,479
tall, powerful, beautiful
southern border wall.
1147
00:47:15,586 --> 00:47:18,066
From this day forward,
1148
00:47:18,172 --> 00:47:21,902
a new vision
will govern our land.
1149
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:24,310
From this day forward,
1150
00:47:24,413 --> 00:47:29,623
it's going to be
only America first.
1151
00:47:38,206 --> 00:47:40,406
You made it look a little
easier than I'm finding it.
1152
00:47:40,517 --> 00:47:42,237
What do you think people
in Britain are going to think
1153
00:47:42,344 --> 00:47:43,934
when they see you on this tape?
1154
00:47:44,034 --> 00:47:45,414
- That I'm a radical nut.
1155
00:47:45,517 --> 00:47:47,337
- Yeah?
- Yeah.
1156
00:47:47,448 --> 00:47:48,688
But that's OK.
1157
00:47:50,068 --> 00:47:51,898
I think my kids think
I'm a radical nut.
1158
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:53,280
- Really?
- Yeah.
1159
00:47:53,379 --> 00:47:55,519
When we spoke back in '96,
1160
00:47:55,620 --> 00:47:59,340
it was during the middle
of Bill Clinton's second term.
1161
00:47:59,448 --> 00:48:01,518
I'm just wondering,
as you look round now,
1162
00:48:01,620 --> 00:48:02,900
in a world
that's very different,
1163
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:04,900
what do you think about Trump?
1164
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:09,480
- I think Trump represents...
1165
00:48:09,586 --> 00:48:13,926
..what is great
about being an American.
1166
00:48:14,896 --> 00:48:17,786
I don't always like
1167
00:48:17,896 --> 00:48:19,996
the way he head-butts
with people,
1168
00:48:20,103 --> 00:48:22,483
but I admire him for doing it.
1169
00:48:22,586 --> 00:48:23,926
- What do you see happening...
1170
00:48:24,896 --> 00:48:26,756
..in the next five
or ten years?
1171
00:48:27,724 --> 00:48:29,524
- We're going to be living
1172
00:48:29,620 --> 00:48:31,930
in a free and happy world,
ultimately.
1173
00:48:32,034 --> 00:48:35,174
What strife and what years
it's going to take
1174
00:48:35,275 --> 00:48:36,995
to get to that point,
I don't know.
1175
00:48:37,103 --> 00:48:38,903
That's going
to be my children
1176
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:40,620
and grandchildren's problem
1177
00:48:40,724 --> 00:48:42,594
to get that solved
and I think they will,
1178
00:48:42,689 --> 00:48:45,519
because I don't think
there's a power on this Earth...
1179
00:48:46,689 --> 00:48:49,139
..that can keep down
the human spirit.
1180
00:48:49,241 --> 00:48:51,001
Something tells me
this isn't going to be
1181
00:48:51,103 --> 00:48:52,593
the last time we speak, Mike.
1182
00:48:52,689 --> 00:48:55,279
I don't know why,
but, uh, it's always a pleasure.
1183
00:48:55,379 --> 00:48:56,659
Let's catch up again.
1184
00:48:56,758 --> 00:48:58,858
Whenever it happens,
I'll look forward to it.
1185
00:48:58,965 --> 00:49:01,375
I will, too, Louis,
1186
00:49:01,482 --> 00:49:03,522
and say hi to your lovely wife.
1187
00:49:03,620 --> 00:49:04,550
I will.
1188
00:49:04,655 --> 00:49:06,375
- Give your boys a hug.
1189
00:49:06,482 --> 00:49:08,102
Thank you. Take care, Mike.
1190
00:49:08,206 --> 00:49:10,026
- Alright. Bye-bye.
- Bye.
1191
00:49:13,724 --> 00:49:15,974
- Just think about
who Mike has previously
1192
00:49:16,068 --> 00:49:17,378
been associated with.
1193
00:49:17,482 --> 00:49:19,452
Think about how
he sees the world.
1194
00:49:19,551 --> 00:49:21,791
Idaho hillside dwelling,
1195
00:49:21,896 --> 00:49:24,206
end-times believing,
1196
00:49:24,310 --> 00:49:27,410
fire-breathing patriot.
1197
00:49:27,517 --> 00:49:29,757
Mike's beliefs
didn't have to change.
1198
00:49:29,862 --> 00:49:32,522
Mike still believes,
more or less,
1199
00:49:32,620 --> 00:49:35,030
the same things
he always believed...
1200
00:49:36,137 --> 00:49:38,587
..but now he has,
in the White House,
1201
00:49:38,689 --> 00:49:41,209
a president he sees as an ally.
1202
00:49:42,724 --> 00:49:45,344
It's kind of amazing,
when you think about it.
1203
00:49:45,448 --> 00:49:47,758
♪ Well, well,
well, well, well ♪
1204
00:49:47,862 --> 00:49:48,932
- ♪ That's alright
1205
00:49:49,034 --> 00:49:50,974
♪ Oh, yes, it is
That's alright... ♪
1206
00:49:51,068 --> 00:49:53,998
- Belief in general,
real sincere belief, faith,
1207
00:49:54,103 --> 00:49:56,973
for want of a better term,
is like rocket fuel.
1208
00:49:57,068 --> 00:50:00,478
It powers you
into achieving things
1209
00:50:00,586 --> 00:50:03,616
that you would think
would be outside your grasp.
1210
00:50:03,724 --> 00:50:06,904
It might seem wrong-headed,
1211
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:09,450
incorrect, even ludicrous,
1212
00:50:09,551 --> 00:50:11,141
even dangerous,
1213
00:50:11,241 --> 00:50:12,551
but this set of beliefs,
1214
00:50:12,655 --> 00:50:14,515
that may have no connection
with reality,
1215
00:50:14,620 --> 00:50:16,760
can have a real impact
1216
00:50:16,862 --> 00:50:19,662
on how
you turn your life around.
1217
00:50:19,758 --> 00:50:22,408
I call myself an atheist
only very grudgingly
1218
00:50:22,517 --> 00:50:24,827
because I sort of
am a fan of...
1219
00:50:26,620 --> 00:50:29,900
religion, although not...of God.
1220
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:31,140
You know, people say,
1221
00:50:31,241 --> 00:50:32,621
"Oh, don't believe in religion,
believe in God."
1222
00:50:32,724 --> 00:50:34,764
I feel like
it's the other way round.
1223
00:50:34,862 --> 00:50:38,862
Like, I think I believe
in religion more than God.
1224
00:50:41,103 --> 00:50:42,453
It's rocket fuel.
1225
00:50:42,551 --> 00:50:45,551
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