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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:05,862 --> 00:00:07,282 - Hello. - Hi, I'm Louis. 2 00:00:07,379 --> 00:00:08,659 I'm Louis. 3 00:00:08,758 --> 00:00:10,138 Oh, I can't shake your hand! 4 00:00:10,241 --> 00:00:11,761 [laughter] 5 00:00:11,862 --> 00:00:14,452 Theroux narrates: For 25 years, I've been making programs 6 00:00:14,551 --> 00:00:16,861 about life in all its strangeness... 7 00:00:16,965 --> 00:00:21,475 Stand by. Information to follow. 8 00:00:21,586 --> 00:00:22,926 Theroux narrates: ..and mystery... 9 00:00:23,034 --> 00:00:25,104 - Who are you? - I'm Louis. 10 00:00:25,206 --> 00:00:26,996 Who's Louis? 11 00:00:27,103 --> 00:00:28,723 Theroux narrates: ..and angst... 12 00:00:28,827 --> 00:00:30,757 You OK, Nikki? 13 00:00:30,862 --> 00:00:33,312 Theroux narrates: ..trying to make connections with people 14 00:00:33,413 --> 00:00:36,593 who are, in different ways, on the edge. 15 00:00:36,689 --> 00:00:39,789 Not all of us want to be like this. 16 00:00:41,620 --> 00:00:43,760 Theroux narrates: Recently, I decided to take a pause 17 00:00:43,862 --> 00:00:46,382 and trawl through my old shows, 18 00:00:46,482 --> 00:00:49,032 looking again at some stories that stayed with me... 19 00:00:49,137 --> 00:00:50,857 Yeah, this has stuff in it. 20 00:00:50,965 --> 00:00:52,095 Theroux narrates: ..and to reach out 21 00:00:52,206 --> 00:00:53,336 to those I'd featured... 22 00:00:53,448 --> 00:00:56,308 - Look at you, Mr Beard and moustache. 23 00:00:56,413 --> 00:00:58,143 I know. Don't I look distinguished? 24 00:00:58,241 --> 00:00:59,861 Theroux narrates: ..to see how their lives have changed. 25 00:00:59,965 --> 00:01:01,335 You've been married six times. 26 00:01:01,448 --> 00:01:02,998 Henry VIII was married six times, 27 00:01:03,103 --> 00:01:04,523 so it's not unprecedented. 28 00:01:04,620 --> 00:01:05,970 [laughs] 29 00:01:06,068 --> 00:01:08,968 - Hey, how are you doing? - Good. How are you? 30 00:01:09,068 --> 00:01:10,448 - Good. 31 00:01:10,551 --> 00:01:12,451 Theroux narrates: From all the hours of programs, 32 00:01:12,551 --> 00:01:14,481 I've teased out a handful of themes... 33 00:01:14,586 --> 00:01:16,336 - This is gonna be the start 34 00:01:16,448 --> 00:01:18,688 of the second American Civil War. 35 00:01:18,793 --> 00:01:19,933 White revolution! 36 00:01:20,034 --> 00:01:21,314 [cheering] 37 00:01:21,413 --> 00:01:23,763 - Why did you run? - Because they shoot anybody, 38 00:01:23,862 --> 00:01:25,242 they don't care who it is. 39 00:01:25,344 --> 00:01:26,244 Point blank range, 40 00:01:26,344 --> 00:01:27,664 they'll pull the gun out and shoot you. 41 00:01:27,758 --> 00:01:29,588 Theroux narrates: ..all of which, in different ways, 42 00:01:29,689 --> 00:01:32,479 go to the heart of what it means to be human... 43 00:01:32,586 --> 00:01:34,276 What connection is there 44 00:01:34,379 --> 00:01:36,239 between a birth mum and a child? 45 00:01:38,137 --> 00:01:39,967 [yells] 46 00:01:40,068 --> 00:01:41,448 You OK? 47 00:01:41,551 --> 00:01:45,031 It seems like every day I get delivered from something else 48 00:01:45,137 --> 00:01:46,447 that I didn't even know I had. 49 00:01:46,551 --> 00:01:48,141 Theroux narrates: ..trying to figure out 50 00:01:48,241 --> 00:01:49,691 what I've learned about life 51 00:01:49,793 --> 00:01:50,693 and about myself. 52 00:01:50,793 --> 00:01:52,693 [applause] 53 00:01:52,793 --> 00:01:55,033 - If you want more money, stand up and say, "Oh, yeah!" 54 00:01:55,137 --> 00:01:56,207 Crowd: Oh, yeah! 55 00:01:56,310 --> 00:01:57,340 - Would never work for you 56 00:01:57,448 --> 00:01:59,278 'cause you have to have the faith of a mustard seed 57 00:01:59,379 --> 00:02:00,659 and you have none. 58 00:02:11,689 --> 00:02:13,589 Newsreader: The wearing of face coverings in shops 59 00:02:13,689 --> 00:02:15,519 in England will become compulsory from midnight 60 00:02:15,620 --> 00:02:19,240 and failing to do so could result in a £100 fine. 61 00:02:19,344 --> 00:02:22,454 After initially being sceptical about their effectiveness 62 00:02:22,551 --> 00:02:24,761 in helping stop the spread of coronavirus, 63 00:02:24,862 --> 00:02:26,792 the government says its view has evolved 64 00:02:26,896 --> 00:02:29,276 as the scientific advice has changed. 65 00:02:29,379 --> 00:02:31,999 [whirr of machinery] 66 00:02:42,448 --> 00:02:44,788 Theroux narrates: Even though I'm an atheist and was raised 67 00:02:44,896 --> 00:02:46,996 without any structured religion in my life, 68 00:02:47,103 --> 00:02:49,383 or maybe because of that, 69 00:02:49,482 --> 00:02:51,172 I've always been drawn to people 70 00:02:51,275 --> 00:02:54,375 who seem to have very firm convictions, 71 00:02:54,482 --> 00:02:57,172 very fervent beliefs... 72 00:02:57,275 --> 00:02:59,445 ..even when those beliefs seemed wrong-headed 73 00:02:59,551 --> 00:03:02,281 or confused or strange. 74 00:03:02,379 --> 00:03:04,409 Dictators and despots, never did that. 75 00:03:04,517 --> 00:03:06,167 Con artists and mind readers. 76 00:03:07,758 --> 00:03:09,828 Televangelism. 77 00:03:09,931 --> 00:03:10,901 That's a bumper sticker 78 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:12,450 that we featured in the program. 79 00:03:12,551 --> 00:03:15,141 Kids who get operations on their tongues. 80 00:03:18,482 --> 00:03:19,932 This is the article. 81 00:03:20,034 --> 00:03:21,004 "Almost heaven. 82 00:03:21,103 --> 00:03:23,103 "It will rise right here, in northern Idaho. 83 00:03:23,206 --> 00:03:25,066 "200 acres, 30 lots, 84 00:03:25,172 --> 00:03:26,452 "that they're selling 85 00:03:26,551 --> 00:03:28,341 "to people who want to escape 86 00:03:28,448 --> 00:03:30,448 "government tyranny and Armageddon." 87 00:03:30,551 --> 00:03:33,211 So, that became the first one that we filmed. 88 00:03:33,310 --> 00:03:36,280 That was the first episode of my series, 89 00:03:36,379 --> 00:03:39,549 the first time I went on TV with my own TV show, 90 00:03:39,655 --> 00:03:42,165 'Louis Theroux's Weird Weekends'. 91 00:03:43,931 --> 00:03:46,591 Theroux narrates: I was sitting in the world's tiniest plane, 92 00:03:46,689 --> 00:03:48,659 high above northwest America. 93 00:03:49,482 --> 00:03:50,592 Peaceful as they look, 94 00:03:50,689 --> 00:03:52,339 these hills of Idaho and Montana 95 00:03:52,448 --> 00:03:54,758 are home to a strange subculture 96 00:03:54,862 --> 00:03:56,972 of right wing patriots. 97 00:03:57,965 --> 00:03:59,615 Remember, this was the mid '90s, 98 00:03:59,724 --> 00:04:01,314 when Bill Clinton was in power, 99 00:04:01,413 --> 00:04:04,173 and he'd enacted new gun control legislation. 100 00:04:04,275 --> 00:04:07,065 Plus, you'd had the bungled siege at Waco, 101 00:04:07,172 --> 00:04:09,482 in which 76 people died, 102 00:04:09,586 --> 00:04:13,166 and, by many gun owners, he was seen as a mortal enemy 103 00:04:13,275 --> 00:04:16,205 intent on taking away their guns 104 00:04:16,310 --> 00:04:19,070 and instituting tyranny. 105 00:04:19,172 --> 00:04:22,662 Many were taking to the hills and arming themselves 106 00:04:22,758 --> 00:04:24,208 against the federal government, 107 00:04:24,310 --> 00:04:25,620 like a little underground army 108 00:04:25,724 --> 00:04:28,004 of rebels and renegades. 109 00:04:28,103 --> 00:04:29,973 And there'd been a lot in the media about them, 110 00:04:30,068 --> 00:04:31,378 so there was a real fear on our part 111 00:04:31,482 --> 00:04:34,032 that they might be dangerous... 112 00:04:34,137 --> 00:04:36,407 ..and, if I'm honest, at the same time, 113 00:04:36,517 --> 00:04:39,137 I was kind of excited to meet them. 114 00:04:41,655 --> 00:04:44,235 Well, we're doing a little story on Almost Heaven. 115 00:04:44,344 --> 00:04:46,664 Want to find out what life's like up here. How do you do? 116 00:04:46,758 --> 00:04:48,378 - You ain't in Almost Heaven. 117 00:04:48,482 --> 00:04:49,902 - No? - No. 118 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:52,410 - Where am I? - Well, from the temperature, 119 00:04:52,517 --> 00:04:54,857 - you're in Almost Hell. - Yeah, looks like it! 120 00:04:54,965 --> 00:04:56,545 I've got to tell you, I was a little bit nervous 121 00:04:56,655 --> 00:04:58,095 about coming up here. 122 00:04:58,206 --> 00:04:59,896 I heard you fellas were a bit scary. 123 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:01,450 Oh, really? 124 00:05:01,551 --> 00:05:02,931 - You know, the conventional view 125 00:05:03,034 --> 00:05:05,244 of, um, people who live on... 126 00:05:06,517 --> 00:05:08,967 ..covenant community places like this. 127 00:05:10,379 --> 00:05:11,929 I don't know what's so scary. 128 00:05:12,034 --> 00:05:13,484 - We... - Are you scary? 129 00:05:13,586 --> 00:05:15,166 No, I'm not scary, really. 130 00:05:15,275 --> 00:05:17,585 Only if you, uh... 131 00:05:17,689 --> 00:05:20,999 ..you come up here to do harm to me or my family... 132 00:05:21,103 --> 00:05:23,143 ..then I'm probably as scary as you are 133 00:05:23,241 --> 00:05:24,341 if someone came to do harm 134 00:05:24,448 --> 00:05:26,028 - to you and your family. - Yeah. 135 00:05:29,379 --> 00:05:31,479 Oh, my word. Here we go. 136 00:05:31,586 --> 00:05:33,206 Theroux narrates: One of the more radical people 137 00:05:33,310 --> 00:05:36,620 up there at Almost Heaven was Mike Cain... 138 00:05:36,724 --> 00:05:39,724 ..but he actually turned out to be rather welcoming. 139 00:05:39,827 --> 00:05:42,237 - This is the old homestead. - This is Freedom Central. 140 00:05:42,344 --> 00:05:45,214 - It's unfinished. Hiya, fellas. 141 00:05:48,344 --> 00:05:50,484 Is there anything in the way of a guided tour? 142 00:05:50,586 --> 00:05:51,826 - I... - Yeah. 143 00:05:51,931 --> 00:05:53,241 Well, it's kind of a typical house. 144 00:05:53,344 --> 00:05:55,414 I don't know if it's much of a guided tour, but come on. 145 00:05:55,517 --> 00:05:57,477 - Well, see, there's a gun rack over there, 146 00:05:57,586 --> 00:05:59,516 - that's not that typical. - Maybe not where you're from. 147 00:05:59,620 --> 00:06:00,590 - No, not in Britain. 148 00:06:00,689 --> 00:06:01,999 - They don't let you have those back there, 149 00:06:02,103 --> 00:06:03,033 - do they? - No, they don't. 150 00:06:03,137 --> 00:06:05,237 - You know, for an American to live without a gun 151 00:06:05,344 --> 00:06:08,554 is like you guys trying to live without tea. 152 00:06:08,655 --> 00:06:09,925 - Really? - Now, how is that possible? 153 00:06:10,034 --> 00:06:11,904 Couldn't be that bad, could it? 154 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:13,690 - And we pray now for thy greater glory 155 00:06:13,793 --> 00:06:15,933 and do so in the name of thy son, Jesus Christ. 156 00:06:16,034 --> 00:06:17,074 - Amen. - Amen. 157 00:06:17,172 --> 00:06:20,522 - For people in Britain who aren't up to speed on this 158 00:06:20,620 --> 00:06:22,410 and they don't know exactly what's going on 159 00:06:22,517 --> 00:06:24,547 and don't understand Patriot beliefs, 160 00:06:24,655 --> 00:06:26,545 how would you explain it, simply as you could, 161 00:06:26,655 --> 00:06:28,715 - what's going on? - There has been a conspiracy 162 00:06:28,827 --> 00:06:30,717 for some years... 163 00:06:30,827 --> 00:06:33,067 ..by a group of work... a group of people 164 00:06:33,172 --> 00:06:36,972 that have become known loosely as the New World Order. 165 00:06:38,275 --> 00:06:39,855 The problem with the New World Order 166 00:06:39,965 --> 00:06:41,375 and the one world government 167 00:06:41,482 --> 00:06:43,552 is that it requires a benevolent dictator. 168 00:06:44,586 --> 00:06:46,476 You show me in history 169 00:06:46,586 --> 00:06:49,756 any time that there's ever been a benevolent dictator ever... 170 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:53,900 ..and if you don't have a benevolent dictator, 171 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:56,100 then you have a tyrant. 172 00:06:56,206 --> 00:06:57,546 OK, so what's this? This is nice. 173 00:06:57,655 --> 00:06:59,335 - Yeah, this is... 174 00:06:59,448 --> 00:07:01,168 ..well, actually, this is your room, Louis. 175 00:07:01,275 --> 00:07:03,335 If you want to spend the night, it's your room. 176 00:07:03,448 --> 00:07:04,898 - Can I really? - Oh, yeah. 177 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:07,210 Well, that's very, very kind, Mike, thanks so much. 178 00:07:07,310 --> 00:07:08,790 Well, you got one thing right, 179 00:07:08,896 --> 00:07:10,856 I am a big fan of Keanu Reeves. 180 00:07:10,965 --> 00:07:13,025 - As I think you can tell from watching it, 181 00:07:13,137 --> 00:07:15,337 I grew to like him, 182 00:07:15,448 --> 00:07:17,208 and I was, you know... 183 00:07:17,310 --> 00:07:19,690 I felt as though he had a good heart, 184 00:07:19,793 --> 00:07:22,103 and, you know, he...he... 185 00:07:22,206 --> 00:07:24,306 I liked his wife, his family. 186 00:07:24,413 --> 00:07:27,383 I was sentimental about the whole milieu, 187 00:07:27,482 --> 00:07:29,862 like, the world of the cowboys, 188 00:07:29,965 --> 00:07:31,925 this rugged frontier lifestyle. 189 00:07:32,034 --> 00:07:33,554 - Whoa! This is weird! 190 00:07:33,655 --> 00:07:35,785 - Maybe I was guilty of slightly romanticising him... 191 00:07:35,896 --> 00:07:37,136 - Come up here, Mike. You want a go? 192 00:07:37,241 --> 00:07:39,381 Oh, you're OK. I like you. 193 00:07:39,482 --> 00:07:40,972 - ..and then also the fact that 194 00:07:41,068 --> 00:07:43,858 I was making my own TV program and... 195 00:07:43,965 --> 00:07:45,965 It was sort of wrapped up in a sense of being grateful 196 00:07:46,068 --> 00:07:47,588 for what they'd given me, 197 00:07:47,689 --> 00:07:49,309 in terms of making the story work. 198 00:07:49,413 --> 00:07:51,073 - Shouldn't we be wearing earmuffs? 199 00:07:51,172 --> 00:07:53,792 - Oh, you don't wear ear muffs in a war. 200 00:07:53,896 --> 00:07:55,096 [gunshot] 201 00:07:55,206 --> 00:07:57,066 Theroux: So, when's it all going to happen, do you think? 202 00:07:57,172 --> 00:07:59,862 - Well, maybe before the year 2000. 203 00:07:59,965 --> 00:08:02,545 - And what will it be? - All out war. 204 00:08:02,655 --> 00:08:04,785 - Really? - I'm sorry. 205 00:08:04,896 --> 00:08:07,516 One day. We've all fought wars before. 206 00:08:07,620 --> 00:08:10,140 - You against who? - Everyone. 207 00:08:10,241 --> 00:08:12,001 I've really enjoyed being around you 208 00:08:12,103 --> 00:08:14,243 and it just sort of makes me worried 209 00:08:14,344 --> 00:08:16,764 because the more convinced you are 210 00:08:16,862 --> 00:08:18,482 that this is going to happen, 211 00:08:18,586 --> 00:08:20,586 it seems, in a way, the more likely 212 00:08:20,689 --> 00:08:22,099 it makes it that it will happen. 213 00:08:22,206 --> 00:08:23,826 I'd hate to read that, you know, 214 00:08:23,931 --> 00:08:25,691 one day that Mike Cain has been in some incident 215 00:08:25,793 --> 00:08:27,413 with the federal authorities. 216 00:08:27,517 --> 00:08:28,927 I mean, it would really upset me, seriously. 217 00:08:29,034 --> 00:08:30,344 I can promise you this, 218 00:08:30,448 --> 00:08:32,968 if it happens, it won't be because we started it. 219 00:08:36,517 --> 00:08:38,377 It's not just me saying it. 220 00:08:38,482 --> 00:08:41,412 There's tens of thousands of Americans just like me, 221 00:08:41,517 --> 00:08:43,207 all across this country, 222 00:08:43,310 --> 00:08:45,100 perhaps even millions of Americans, 223 00:08:45,206 --> 00:08:46,926 that are ready for the war. 224 00:08:49,034 --> 00:08:52,454 - I mean, I stayed in touch with Mike 225 00:08:52,551 --> 00:08:54,381 after the show went out. 226 00:08:54,482 --> 00:08:55,622 I want to see what this one... 227 00:08:55,724 --> 00:08:57,864 So, this is a letter. When is this? 228 00:08:57,965 --> 00:09:00,165 November '97. 229 00:09:00,275 --> 00:09:03,445 So, that would have been literally just a year after. 230 00:09:05,241 --> 00:09:07,311 OK. "Dearest Louis, Simon, Ed, Russell, 231 00:09:07,413 --> 00:09:09,593 "and friends at the BBC..." That was the crew. 232 00:09:09,689 --> 00:09:11,619 "..we received with gladness each of your letters 233 00:09:11,724 --> 00:09:13,214 "and pray you are all well and happy. 234 00:09:13,310 --> 00:09:15,000 "I was arrested and jailed on November 8th 235 00:09:15,103 --> 00:09:16,453 "for the crime of asserting my rights. 236 00:09:16,551 --> 00:09:18,551 "My brothers, acting under inspiration from our Lord, 237 00:09:18,655 --> 00:09:20,275 "were able to secure my quick release." 238 00:09:20,379 --> 00:09:23,409 I think he was done for driving with no licence plates. 239 00:09:23,517 --> 00:09:25,617 August, 2001. 240 00:09:25,724 --> 00:09:28,104 "Kamiah County, Idaho, Sheriff's Department, 241 00:09:28,206 --> 00:09:30,546 "who delivered an eviction notice ten days ago 242 00:09:30,655 --> 00:09:34,615 "after Cain had failed to pay $2,242 243 00:09:34,724 --> 00:09:35,934 "for property taxes." 244 00:09:36,034 --> 00:09:37,664 March '98. 245 00:09:37,758 --> 00:09:39,688 "Probably will end up in a gunfight," 246 00:09:39,793 --> 00:09:40,933 and then he goes, 247 00:09:41,034 --> 00:09:43,524 "They will fire the first shot, Louis." 248 00:09:43,620 --> 00:09:44,590 I will have been saying, like, 249 00:09:44,689 --> 00:09:46,279 "Why don't you just calm down 250 00:09:46,379 --> 00:09:48,139 "and just sort it out and just... 251 00:09:48,241 --> 00:09:50,761 "Just don't start any shit with them?" 252 00:09:52,517 --> 00:09:55,277 I think what happened was his wife, Chacha, left first. 253 00:09:56,137 --> 00:09:57,687 He lasted a bit longer... 254 00:09:57,793 --> 00:09:59,833 Quick, quick. 30 seconds of tape! 255 00:09:59,931 --> 00:10:03,031 - ..and then one night, under the cover of darkness, 256 00:10:03,137 --> 00:10:04,717 he left Almost Heaven. 257 00:10:04,827 --> 00:10:07,997 I think his appetite for the fight had gone. 258 00:10:08,103 --> 00:10:09,453 - Be careful driving down the mountain now. 259 00:10:09,551 --> 00:10:11,241 - Be safe. Don't do... 260 00:10:14,310 --> 00:10:17,140 [video call rings] 261 00:10:22,275 --> 00:10:23,545 How are you doing, Mike? 262 00:10:23,655 --> 00:10:25,895 - I'm doing well, Louis. How are you? 263 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:28,340 I'm not too bad. Nice catching up with you. 264 00:10:28,448 --> 00:10:30,998 I appreciate you stopping by for a chat. 265 00:10:31,103 --> 00:10:35,593 Do you look back at the Almost Heaven experience 266 00:10:35,689 --> 00:10:37,969 and see it as a misadventure, 267 00:10:38,068 --> 00:10:39,788 something that you regret? 268 00:10:39,896 --> 00:10:41,136 - Yes and no. 269 00:10:41,241 --> 00:10:43,311 I moved my family up there 270 00:10:43,413 --> 00:10:47,003 as a means to protect them. 271 00:10:47,103 --> 00:10:50,343 It was after you left that things turned sour. 272 00:10:50,448 --> 00:10:52,618 What those people up there were 273 00:10:52,724 --> 00:10:55,864 was just a bunch of scared blowhards 274 00:10:55,965 --> 00:10:59,275 that, uh, wanted to talk and do nothing. 275 00:10:59,379 --> 00:11:03,379 It was...it was never a unified community, ever. 276 00:11:03,482 --> 00:11:05,552 You believed that, um... 277 00:11:05,655 --> 00:11:07,825 with government controlling people 278 00:11:07,931 --> 00:11:09,001 and curbing their liberty, 279 00:11:09,103 --> 00:11:11,283 there'd be chaos in the cities, 280 00:11:11,379 --> 00:11:14,279 that it might not be safe for you and your family. 281 00:11:14,379 --> 00:11:15,339 - Correct. 282 00:11:15,448 --> 00:11:19,548 And we're seeing some of that now, aren't we? 283 00:11:19,655 --> 00:11:21,305 If you don't wear a mask in public, 284 00:11:21,413 --> 00:11:22,723 you're going to be arrested. 285 00:11:22,827 --> 00:11:25,277 Same old tyranny bullcrap. 286 00:11:25,379 --> 00:11:28,549 We're seeing grocery stores empty out. 287 00:11:28,655 --> 00:11:31,785 You're seeing people fighting over toilet paper. 288 00:11:31,896 --> 00:11:35,026 The travesty of the whole COVID thing 289 00:11:35,137 --> 00:11:36,997 is not the virus itself, 290 00:11:37,103 --> 00:11:40,413 but the tyranny that it's allowing to prosper. 291 00:11:40,517 --> 00:11:42,207 What is that all about, Louis? 292 00:11:42,310 --> 00:11:45,140 What government has the right to restrict your liberty? 293 00:11:45,241 --> 00:11:47,281 The only reason they're doing it 294 00:11:47,379 --> 00:11:49,069 is that we're letting them. 295 00:11:49,172 --> 00:11:51,832 It's time the Americans... 296 00:11:52,931 --> 00:11:54,831 ..put their big boy pants on 297 00:11:54,931 --> 00:11:56,031 and put an end to this. 298 00:11:56,137 --> 00:11:58,097 - And you know what I flashed back to? 299 00:11:58,206 --> 00:12:01,066 Was you on the hillside 24 years ago, 300 00:12:01,172 --> 00:12:03,622 saying more and more Americans are fed up 301 00:12:03,724 --> 00:12:06,004 with government overreach. 302 00:12:06,103 --> 00:12:08,663 Do you think there's something in you 303 00:12:08,758 --> 00:12:11,338 that just tends to see the world that way? 304 00:12:11,448 --> 00:12:13,378 - Of course I see the world that way. 305 00:12:13,482 --> 00:12:15,102 How can you not? 306 00:12:22,172 --> 00:12:23,622 - I've always enjoyed the people 307 00:12:23,724 --> 00:12:25,414 who know what they think 308 00:12:25,517 --> 00:12:28,897 and have beliefs that they're certain about... 309 00:12:30,620 --> 00:12:32,170 ..who aren't really like me, 310 00:12:32,275 --> 00:12:36,305 'cause I'm constantly groping for certainty, 311 00:12:36,413 --> 00:12:39,523 uncertain about what I think or what I believe. 312 00:12:39,620 --> 00:12:42,660 People who aren't afraid of speaking their minds. 313 00:12:42,758 --> 00:12:43,968 You know, you might laugh about it, 314 00:12:44,068 --> 00:12:45,338 and then a little part of you might think, 315 00:12:45,448 --> 00:12:47,408 "Well, maybe he's got a point." 316 00:12:52,172 --> 00:12:55,212 Well, this is an old UFO magazine... 317 00:12:57,344 --> 00:13:00,724 ..with a picture of an alien on the cover. 318 00:13:00,827 --> 00:13:01,967 Producer: What kind of alien's that? 319 00:13:02,068 --> 00:13:03,788 - Looks like a Grey. 320 00:13:03,896 --> 00:13:05,926 - These are harmful, hateful people 321 00:13:06,034 --> 00:13:07,624 that rape, molest, steal children, 322 00:13:07,724 --> 00:13:10,594 terrorise lives and make men cringe, 323 00:13:10,689 --> 00:13:12,829 make men soil themselves 324 00:13:12,931 --> 00:13:15,621 and these are no people to be respected. 325 00:13:15,724 --> 00:13:18,664 - The challenge making the story was... 326 00:13:18,758 --> 00:13:19,858 Well, this is kind of funny 327 00:13:19,965 --> 00:13:22,895 and this will be a colourful adventure, 328 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:25,790 a safari through the outer fringes of belief, 329 00:13:25,896 --> 00:13:27,276 but what does it add up to? 330 00:13:27,379 --> 00:13:29,069 We're not really learning, I think, 331 00:13:29,172 --> 00:13:33,832 that much about how real the alien phenomena are. 332 00:13:33,931 --> 00:13:35,691 What does the Alien Resistance Movement 333 00:13:35,793 --> 00:13:36,723 actually do? 334 00:13:36,827 --> 00:13:38,857 - We monitor the extraterrestrials 335 00:13:38,965 --> 00:13:40,545 coming into the planet. 336 00:13:40,655 --> 00:13:42,615 We have killed extraterrestrials. 337 00:13:42,724 --> 00:13:44,554 These insignias are our definite kills. 338 00:13:44,655 --> 00:13:45,995 Each one of these is ten kills. 339 00:13:46,103 --> 00:13:48,343 This is something that we are called to do. 340 00:13:48,448 --> 00:13:50,238 We consider ourselves warrior monks. 341 00:13:50,344 --> 00:13:53,104 We do this 'cause we want to do this. 342 00:13:53,206 --> 00:13:55,066 - We met someone called Chris O'Brien, 343 00:13:55,172 --> 00:13:58,792 who is a writer and a paranormal researcher. 344 00:13:58,896 --> 00:14:00,656 His main thing was the idea that, 345 00:14:00,758 --> 00:14:02,858 in the area of Colorado, where he was living... 346 00:14:04,137 --> 00:14:07,657 ..there were mysterious, unexplained deaths 347 00:14:07,758 --> 00:14:10,548 and mutilations of cattle, 348 00:14:10,655 --> 00:14:13,475 very often with rectums being removed. 349 00:14:13,586 --> 00:14:15,616 Shall we take the tarpaulin off? 350 00:14:15,724 --> 00:14:17,834 - Yeah, let's go ahead and get this thing off. 351 00:14:18,827 --> 00:14:20,997 Oh! Oh-oh-oh! 352 00:14:21,103 --> 00:14:22,763 Oh, man! 353 00:14:22,862 --> 00:14:25,072 - Its... [coughs] 354 00:14:28,586 --> 00:14:29,546 - Its re... - Yes. 355 00:14:29,655 --> 00:14:31,025 [coughs and retches] 356 00:14:31,137 --> 00:14:32,657 Its rectum is bubbling. 357 00:14:32,758 --> 00:14:34,588 - [laughs] 358 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:39,070 I know it's tough, Louis, but you can handle it. 359 00:14:39,172 --> 00:14:41,662 And then Reverend Robert Short... 360 00:14:41,758 --> 00:14:44,378 ..was a UFO space channel. 361 00:14:44,482 --> 00:14:47,142 He channelled an alien called Korton 362 00:14:47,241 --> 00:14:48,591 from the planet Koldas. 363 00:14:49,517 --> 00:14:50,617 He's one of those characters 364 00:14:50,724 --> 00:14:53,314 that people remember and ask about 365 00:14:53,413 --> 00:14:55,413 and say, "Oh, that guy, he was something else." 366 00:14:55,517 --> 00:14:57,097 Hello? 367 00:15:01,586 --> 00:15:03,236 [high-pitched] Hello? 368 00:15:09,758 --> 00:15:11,378 - Yep? - Oh, you startled me! 369 00:15:11,482 --> 00:15:12,902 - Come on in. - How's it going? 370 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:14,310 Are you Reverend Short? 371 00:15:14,413 --> 00:15:15,973 - Hi, how are you? Come on in. 372 00:15:16,068 --> 00:15:17,278 Phew! 373 00:15:17,379 --> 00:15:19,309 So, how's this going to work exactly? 374 00:15:19,413 --> 00:15:21,173 Can you channel... get in contact 375 00:15:21,275 --> 00:15:23,165 with an extraterrestrial right now? 376 00:15:23,275 --> 00:15:25,025 Well, we're gonna attempt to try to do that right now 377 00:15:25,137 --> 00:15:27,167 and we're gonna do it right here. 378 00:15:27,275 --> 00:15:31,235 [grunting, gargling] 379 00:15:35,931 --> 00:15:39,481 [deep voice] This is Central Control. 380 00:15:39,586 --> 00:15:42,656 This is Central Control. 381 00:15:42,758 --> 00:15:48,098 We are ready to transmit. We are ready to transmit. 382 00:15:48,206 --> 00:15:50,856 Korton, some people I've been speaking to 383 00:15:50,965 --> 00:15:53,825 have suggested that there's major cataclysms under way, 384 00:15:53,931 --> 00:15:56,691 possible alien invasion or Earth... 385 00:15:56,793 --> 00:15:59,313 - We should stay down. 386 00:15:59,413 --> 00:16:02,663 We would rather that, um... 387 00:16:02,758 --> 00:16:05,278 individuals do not dwell 388 00:16:05,379 --> 00:16:09,719 upon the negative aspects of that, 389 00:16:09,827 --> 00:16:15,067 which is, as yet, only a premise. 390 00:16:15,172 --> 00:16:17,142 Discontinue. 391 00:16:21,344 --> 00:16:22,724 [inhales sharply] 392 00:16:22,827 --> 00:16:25,167 [exhales deeply] 393 00:16:25,275 --> 00:16:26,655 I want you to feel something. 394 00:16:26,758 --> 00:16:28,208 - Feel something? 395 00:16:28,310 --> 00:16:29,930 - Put your hand right in through here. 396 00:16:30,034 --> 00:16:30,974 - Here? Where, here? 397 00:16:31,068 --> 00:16:32,448 Just rub your hand up and down. 398 00:16:32,551 --> 00:16:34,171 - Yeah, a lot of sweat. 399 00:16:34,275 --> 00:16:35,995 - Dad says it was the energy beam. 400 00:16:36,103 --> 00:16:38,073 - How do you feel? - Er...that was intense. 401 00:16:38,172 --> 00:16:40,242 That was incredible. 402 00:16:40,344 --> 00:16:43,454 I tended to see him as something like a shaman, 403 00:16:43,551 --> 00:16:47,071 of a kind of vernacular American sort... 404 00:16:47,172 --> 00:16:48,722 ..that it was as spiritual 405 00:16:48,827 --> 00:16:51,097 as much as it was a scientific phenomenon. 406 00:16:53,517 --> 00:16:56,137 And I made a trip over in 2004 407 00:16:56,241 --> 00:16:59,171 to do some follow-up for a book that I wrote. 408 00:16:59,275 --> 00:17:02,065 Some of that's recorded in the footage 409 00:17:02,172 --> 00:17:03,622 that my wife, Nancy, shot 410 00:17:03,724 --> 00:17:05,694 on a sort of home video camera. 411 00:17:07,103 --> 00:17:09,073 Hi, there! 412 00:17:09,172 --> 00:17:11,522 - He more or less sat down with me 413 00:17:11,620 --> 00:17:14,380 and told me his story of growing up in Hollywood, 414 00:17:14,482 --> 00:17:16,522 maybe not feeling he fitted in. 415 00:17:17,517 --> 00:17:18,407 He didn't seem to have 416 00:17:18,517 --> 00:17:20,517 a great relationship with his parents. 417 00:17:20,620 --> 00:17:22,240 I think he'd had substance abuse issues, 418 00:17:22,344 --> 00:17:24,034 alcohol specifically. 419 00:17:24,137 --> 00:17:27,717 He worked decent jobs, but nothing glamorous, 420 00:17:27,827 --> 00:17:30,207 stacking shelves and I think as a waiter 421 00:17:30,310 --> 00:17:31,520 or a short order chef. 422 00:17:31,620 --> 00:17:32,930 So, discovering himself 423 00:17:33,034 --> 00:17:35,624 in the first flush of the UFO movement in the '50s, 424 00:17:35,724 --> 00:17:37,834 when people were being contacted... 425 00:17:37,931 --> 00:17:39,551 ..for someone like that to get involved in, 426 00:17:39,655 --> 00:17:42,025 like, a world of communion 427 00:17:42,137 --> 00:17:45,547 with other planets and other entities, 428 00:17:45,655 --> 00:17:47,925 it goes without saying, that's hugely exciting... 429 00:17:48,862 --> 00:17:51,072 ..and, um... 430 00:17:51,172 --> 00:17:52,902 ..feels like it's socially important. 431 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:54,480 - Let me put these in the house for a minute 432 00:17:54,586 --> 00:17:56,586 - and I'll be right with you. - OK. Thanks. 433 00:17:56,689 --> 00:17:59,519 - After around 2005... 434 00:18:00,896 --> 00:18:03,546 ..we didn't have much contact. 435 00:18:04,862 --> 00:18:06,382 There might have been an e-mail or two 436 00:18:06,482 --> 00:18:08,722 that went back and forth, but I don't think so. 437 00:18:10,379 --> 00:18:14,929 This is Galactic-Communa 2. This is Galactic-Communa 2. 438 00:18:15,034 --> 00:18:16,834 - But you could still see clips of him on YouTube 439 00:18:16,931 --> 00:18:19,791 and, in fact, as late as three or four years ago, 440 00:18:19,896 --> 00:18:21,206 maybe it was slightly more, 441 00:18:21,310 --> 00:18:24,100 there's a video of him channelling 442 00:18:24,206 --> 00:18:26,066 that you can see, and he looks... 443 00:18:26,172 --> 00:18:28,342 He's still doing it, but... 444 00:18:30,068 --> 00:18:32,758 He obviously looks a little bit older and... 445 00:18:34,034 --> 00:18:35,454 ..reduced. 446 00:18:37,413 --> 00:18:39,413 This is Central Control. 447 00:18:39,517 --> 00:18:42,517 This is Central Control, Galactic-Communa 2. 448 00:18:42,620 --> 00:18:44,790 We are now ending our transmission. 449 00:18:44,896 --> 00:18:47,096 We are now ending our transmission. 450 00:18:49,379 --> 00:18:52,069 - And then, literally, only a month or two ago... 451 00:18:53,275 --> 00:18:56,375 ..I heard that he'd died at the end of last year. 452 00:19:02,689 --> 00:19:05,829 There's a sort of release in seeing someone... 453 00:19:05,931 --> 00:19:07,721 You know, there's a pleasure in seeing someone 454 00:19:07,827 --> 00:19:09,927 do something really weird. Like... 455 00:19:10,034 --> 00:19:12,104 You know, I don't want to overcomplicate it. 456 00:19:12,206 --> 00:19:14,306 There's something funny about someone, 457 00:19:14,413 --> 00:19:17,553 in the name of contacting an alien, 458 00:19:17,655 --> 00:19:19,755 doing funny voices and... 459 00:19:21,172 --> 00:19:22,622 ..just pronouncing things 460 00:19:22,724 --> 00:19:24,174 and saying things in a weird way 461 00:19:24,275 --> 00:19:25,585 and then predicting the future, 462 00:19:25,689 --> 00:19:27,239 that's just quite funny. 463 00:19:27,344 --> 00:19:29,074 The reason it's funny is, I suppose, 464 00:19:29,172 --> 00:19:31,522 because you're thinking... 465 00:19:33,103 --> 00:19:34,973 "That's not me and I would never think that." 466 00:19:35,068 --> 00:19:37,478 It seems ridiculous, 467 00:19:37,586 --> 00:19:39,896 but in a way, you know, in a deeper way, 468 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:42,000 that is all of us. 469 00:19:43,862 --> 00:19:46,172 - God is gonna send his decree in his last days 470 00:19:46,275 --> 00:19:48,855 and that is to totally annihilate America. 471 00:19:48,965 --> 00:19:51,655 America will be blown off the face of the Earth. 472 00:19:51,758 --> 00:19:54,588 Theroux narrates: No group has a monopoly on strange beliefs 473 00:19:54,689 --> 00:19:57,029 and, in fact, strange beliefs can come packaged 474 00:19:57,137 --> 00:19:58,477 as something reasonable. 475 00:19:58,586 --> 00:20:01,616 I did a story on black nationalism in New York. 476 00:20:01,724 --> 00:20:04,214 Most of the people I met had what struck me 477 00:20:04,310 --> 00:20:06,410 as an understandable belief 478 00:20:06,517 --> 00:20:09,337 in the need for further improvements in civil rights, 479 00:20:09,448 --> 00:20:11,688 but they'd also incubated an extreme fringe 480 00:20:11,793 --> 00:20:13,343 of true believers 481 00:20:13,448 --> 00:20:15,138 who took a totally over-the-top, 482 00:20:15,241 --> 00:20:18,001 exclusionary view of other races. 483 00:20:20,413 --> 00:20:22,553 - This is a little scary, isn't it? 484 00:20:22,655 --> 00:20:25,165 - Yeah, Christ is coming back on a white horse. 485 00:20:26,206 --> 00:20:27,686 He's gonna take down the white man. 486 00:20:27,793 --> 00:20:31,623 That's why your Pope is down on the ground. 487 00:20:31,724 --> 00:20:33,454 It's going to happen by the year 2000. 488 00:20:33,551 --> 00:20:35,621 - Really? - That's it, yeah. 489 00:20:35,724 --> 00:20:37,484 - Would you follow me this way? - Of course. 490 00:20:39,068 --> 00:20:40,448 - Alright. How you doing? 491 00:20:40,551 --> 00:20:42,241 - Good. How are you doing? - Real good. 492 00:20:42,344 --> 00:20:43,834 - I just want to show you something 493 00:20:43,931 --> 00:20:45,621 that's very interesting in this book, 494 00:20:45,724 --> 00:20:48,214 that the original rulers of England 495 00:20:48,310 --> 00:20:50,210 and Britain were black. 496 00:20:50,310 --> 00:20:51,760 - May I come up? - Sure. 497 00:20:51,862 --> 00:20:53,662 You can come and have a look with your own two eyes. 498 00:20:53,758 --> 00:20:55,338 - This is more friendly. - OK, yeah. 499 00:20:55,448 --> 00:20:56,828 We're not gonna attack you. We're not sharks. 500 00:20:56,931 --> 00:20:59,591 You see the Black court officers here. 501 00:20:59,689 --> 00:21:01,519 You see the prosecutor sitting here. 502 00:21:01,620 --> 00:21:03,860 These are Black men. 503 00:21:03,965 --> 00:21:05,785 I don't know, that's kind of borderline. 504 00:21:05,896 --> 00:21:07,446 Wait a minute. There's no borderline. 505 00:21:07,551 --> 00:21:09,031 Are you on crack? 506 00:21:09,137 --> 00:21:11,167 You see that these guys are Black. 507 00:21:11,275 --> 00:21:14,925 Trace your family lineage on your father's side. 508 00:21:15,034 --> 00:21:17,454 If you happen to be one of us... 509 00:21:18,896 --> 00:21:20,616 ..you're welcome here. 510 00:21:20,724 --> 00:21:22,694 If you're not, we'll see you in captivity. 511 00:21:24,448 --> 00:21:26,448 - OK, three burglars on your doorstep, sir. 512 00:21:26,551 --> 00:21:28,001 Sort them out. 513 00:21:30,172 --> 00:21:31,212 Oh, not very good. 514 00:21:31,310 --> 00:21:32,760 [gunshot] Ooh! He's dead! 515 00:21:32,862 --> 00:21:34,622 Cock, quickly, there's another one. 516 00:21:34,724 --> 00:21:35,794 - Another one. - Cock again. 517 00:21:35,896 --> 00:21:36,926 Theroux narrates: In South Africa, 518 00:21:37,034 --> 00:21:39,144 I did a story about Boer nationalists 519 00:21:39,241 --> 00:21:41,861 concerned about preserving their culture. 520 00:21:41,965 --> 00:21:43,025 [gunshot] Good. 521 00:21:43,137 --> 00:21:44,687 - Your aim is superb. - Thank you. 522 00:21:44,793 --> 00:21:47,033 - Nothing wrong with your aim. - I need to speed it up. 523 00:21:47,137 --> 00:21:48,587 But you won't survive in Africa. 524 00:21:48,689 --> 00:21:49,619 - But there, too, 525 00:21:49,724 --> 00:21:51,794 there turned out to be a racist dimension. 526 00:21:51,896 --> 00:21:53,826 - God created, 527 00:21:53,931 --> 00:21:56,341 not even animal, as equal. 528 00:21:56,448 --> 00:21:57,998 Basically, what it boils down to 529 00:21:58,103 --> 00:22:00,073 is he sees those that I chose. 530 00:22:00,172 --> 00:22:03,032 - And who did he choose? - The white people. 531 00:22:03,137 --> 00:22:05,547 So, where does that leave non-whites? 532 00:22:07,241 --> 00:22:08,761 Well, the way we see it, 533 00:22:08,862 --> 00:22:11,142 they've got no chance. 534 00:22:11,241 --> 00:22:12,931 Do they seem at all weird to you? 535 00:22:13,034 --> 00:22:15,454 No. Sometimes they do weird things, 536 00:22:15,551 --> 00:22:17,101 but they don't seem at all weird. 537 00:22:17,206 --> 00:22:18,236 - Who? - The Blacks. 538 00:22:18,344 --> 00:22:19,484 Oh, no, I meant your beliefs. 539 00:22:19,586 --> 00:22:21,066 Oh, my beliefs? [laughs] 540 00:22:21,172 --> 00:22:22,142 No, um... No, 541 00:22:22,241 --> 00:22:23,761 - they don't seem weird to me. - Yeah. 542 00:22:23,862 --> 00:22:25,722 I don't think I would have believed it if it was weird. 543 00:22:25,827 --> 00:22:26,857 Yeah. 544 00:22:29,586 --> 00:22:32,586 - So, Tom wants a flat white. - Oh! 545 00:22:32,689 --> 00:22:33,789 Theroux narrates: It's in the nature 546 00:22:33,896 --> 00:22:35,926 of the kind of stories that I do about belief 547 00:22:36,034 --> 00:22:37,904 that there is a moral dimension. 548 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:41,000 [child plays in background] 549 00:22:41,103 --> 00:22:42,933 And as I went on, I suppose, 550 00:22:43,034 --> 00:22:44,724 I pushed further in the direction 551 00:22:44,827 --> 00:22:47,407 of exploring ideas that were toxic, 552 00:22:47,517 --> 00:22:49,687 that were dangerous and poisonous. 553 00:22:52,551 --> 00:22:54,381 I think it was part of growing up... 554 00:22:55,379 --> 00:22:56,479 ..part of evolving, 555 00:22:56,586 --> 00:22:57,786 that I felt more confident 556 00:22:57,896 --> 00:23:00,996 about taking on those kinds of stories. 557 00:23:05,586 --> 00:23:07,786 You know, this has stuff in it. 558 00:23:07,896 --> 00:23:09,516 Been around the world, this box. 559 00:23:12,896 --> 00:23:14,096 OK... 560 00:23:15,103 --> 00:23:16,483 Where do you want it? 561 00:23:16,586 --> 00:23:20,026 Quite clearly, people who identify as Neo-Nazis 562 00:23:20,137 --> 00:23:22,717 or white nationalists 563 00:23:22,827 --> 00:23:24,657 are right out there on the fringe. 564 00:23:24,758 --> 00:23:26,408 So, yeah, I thought, 565 00:23:26,517 --> 00:23:29,377 I just wanted to find out what they were thinking. 566 00:23:39,034 --> 00:23:40,974 We were doing the story in California, 567 00:23:41,068 --> 00:23:44,588 where there is a kind of white nationalist underground... 568 00:23:45,862 --> 00:23:47,792 - How are you doing? - Good. Good morning. 569 00:23:47,896 --> 00:23:50,406 - Shall we come in? - Come aboard. 570 00:23:50,517 --> 00:23:54,587 Theroux narrates: ..which in part is made up of skinheads. 571 00:23:54,689 --> 00:23:57,169 We had an intro to a guy called Skip. 572 00:23:57,275 --> 00:24:00,065 - Skip, I'm Louis. Yeah. - I know. I remember. 573 00:24:00,172 --> 00:24:01,762 - Introduce us to your family, will you? 574 00:24:01,862 --> 00:24:03,762 - How are you? - How are you doing? 575 00:24:06,965 --> 00:24:08,375 - Come in and meet the family. 576 00:24:08,482 --> 00:24:10,172 Here, Sidney. Come on. 577 00:24:12,034 --> 00:24:14,174 This is my youngest, Sidney. 578 00:24:15,344 --> 00:24:17,104 This is number two, Rhiannon. 579 00:24:17,206 --> 00:24:18,206 - Hi, Rhiannon. 580 00:24:18,310 --> 00:24:20,030 - And this is number one, Kerney. 581 00:24:20,137 --> 00:24:21,997 - Hi, Kerney. - My lovely wife, Heather. 582 00:24:22,103 --> 00:24:23,383 - Hi. - Hi, Heather. 583 00:24:23,482 --> 00:24:24,452 - My baby brother, Lenny. 584 00:24:24,551 --> 00:24:26,001 - Manny. - How are you? Lenny. 585 00:24:26,103 --> 00:24:27,723 - Good. Lenny? Lenny. - Lenny. Yeah. 586 00:24:27,827 --> 00:24:30,857 - Welcome to Paradise. - Yeah. 587 00:24:30,965 --> 00:24:32,515 - So, if I told you I was Jewish, 588 00:24:32,620 --> 00:24:34,790 would that create a problem between us? 589 00:24:34,896 --> 00:24:36,586 - Well, because you've got the camera right now, 590 00:24:36,689 --> 00:24:37,999 I'd allow you to stay. 591 00:24:38,103 --> 00:24:39,313 If not, I'd probably kick your ass 592 00:24:39,413 --> 00:24:40,973 and put you in the street somewhere. 593 00:24:41,931 --> 00:24:43,341 - For real? - Pretty much, 594 00:24:43,448 --> 00:24:45,548 because a Jew wouldn't be here on my property. 595 00:24:46,620 --> 00:24:48,070 Are you Jewish? 596 00:24:48,172 --> 00:24:49,522 Do you mind if I don't answer that? 597 00:24:49,620 --> 00:24:51,170 [he laughs] 598 00:24:51,275 --> 00:24:53,275 - You with the camera, are you? 599 00:24:53,379 --> 00:24:54,479 [they laugh] 600 00:24:54,586 --> 00:24:56,206 I'll tell you why. I don't want... 601 00:24:56,310 --> 00:24:58,590 I'm not a racist and I think it's... 602 00:24:58,689 --> 00:25:00,789 I actually think it's wrong to be a racist, 603 00:25:00,896 --> 00:25:03,406 and so, I feel as though by... 604 00:25:04,551 --> 00:25:06,451 by saying whether I'm Jewish or not, 605 00:25:06,551 --> 00:25:07,551 I'm kind of, in a way, 606 00:25:07,655 --> 00:25:10,855 acknowledging the premise that it really matters 607 00:25:10,965 --> 00:25:12,585 when I think it shouldn't and it doesn't. 608 00:25:12,689 --> 00:25:15,139 It was sort of relatively new to me, 609 00:25:15,241 --> 00:25:18,551 the idea of just dedicating a whole program 610 00:25:18,655 --> 00:25:23,065 to people whose views were completely abhorrent and not... 611 00:25:24,344 --> 00:25:25,594 ..instead of pitching it 612 00:25:25,689 --> 00:25:29,589 somewhere in a middle ground of eccentricity, 613 00:25:29,689 --> 00:25:32,549 some degree of controversy or questionable-ness, 614 00:25:32,655 --> 00:25:36,895 but that gave it a kind of interesting quality. 615 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:38,900 Producer: What was that? 616 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:40,520 Well, just conflict. 617 00:25:43,137 --> 00:25:44,717 Just balls out conflict. 618 00:25:46,137 --> 00:25:47,787 - Louis' a Jew. 619 00:25:47,896 --> 00:25:49,586 I already know it. I already know it! 620 00:25:49,689 --> 00:25:52,309 You're a Jew, that's why you've got so much animosity. 621 00:25:52,413 --> 00:25:55,343 - OK... We can't say you don't look like a Jew. 622 00:25:55,448 --> 00:25:57,588 - Oi. You're a Jew. 623 00:26:00,103 --> 00:26:02,863 You're part Jewish. - Don't not say "I'm not" 624 00:26:02,965 --> 00:26:04,995 because you think someone's going to beat you up 625 00:26:05,103 --> 00:26:06,413 'cause it's not like that with us. 626 00:26:06,517 --> 00:26:07,687 - Why do you care? 627 00:26:07,793 --> 00:26:09,863 Why will it make any difference to you whether I am or not? 628 00:26:09,965 --> 00:26:11,855 - Because I like to know who's been in my house. 629 00:26:11,965 --> 00:26:13,895 - We want to know if you're a fucking Jew 630 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:15,660 and if we let you into our house 631 00:26:15,758 --> 00:26:18,028 to film our fucking everyday ritual... 632 00:26:18,137 --> 00:26:20,237 - Even if you are. - Are you a fucking Jew? 633 00:26:20,344 --> 00:26:22,414 I don't feel as though, maybe you'd disagree, 634 00:26:22,517 --> 00:26:23,477 I don't feel as though 635 00:26:23,586 --> 00:26:25,516 I've kind of compelled you to say anything. 636 00:26:25,620 --> 00:26:27,380 I feel as though I've been respectful 637 00:26:27,482 --> 00:26:29,412 and I appreciate that you've let us into your house. 638 00:26:29,517 --> 00:26:30,967 - I'm not debating the fact you've been respectful 639 00:26:31,068 --> 00:26:32,238 to my house and to my people. 640 00:26:32,344 --> 00:26:34,344 So, I honestly don't think I would interrogate you 641 00:26:34,448 --> 00:26:36,028 to the point where if you said, 642 00:26:36,137 --> 00:26:37,477 "I don't want to talk about that," 643 00:26:37,586 --> 00:26:39,026 I would say, "OK, that's fine, 644 00:26:39,137 --> 00:26:40,617 "we'll talk about something else." 645 00:26:40,724 --> 00:26:42,664 So, I'd like you to respect me in the same way. 646 00:26:42,758 --> 00:26:44,718 Can we turn the camera off for a second? 647 00:26:45,931 --> 00:26:48,171 Pull the plug. Pull the plug for a second. 648 00:26:48,275 --> 00:26:49,855 What for? 649 00:26:49,965 --> 00:26:51,445 - Nothing crazy. - [laughs] 650 00:26:51,551 --> 00:26:52,551 Don't get all fucking alarmed. 651 00:26:52,655 --> 00:26:54,205 - No, no, no. It's fine. - Just for free talk, 652 00:26:54,310 --> 00:26:55,660 to not feel like we're being filmed. 653 00:26:55,758 --> 00:26:57,378 I would really rather not say. 654 00:26:57,482 --> 00:26:59,242 - I would really rather you tell me. 655 00:26:59,965 --> 00:27:02,025 I've exposed myself. 656 00:27:02,137 --> 00:27:05,067 I've exposed my family. 657 00:27:05,172 --> 00:27:09,102 I've exposed my brothers, my sisters and my children. 658 00:27:09,206 --> 00:27:11,166 Expose yourself now. 659 00:27:11,275 --> 00:27:13,305 - I'll answer any... I'll... 660 00:27:14,758 --> 00:27:16,858 Let's leave it at that, can we, please? 661 00:27:16,965 --> 00:27:18,655 - We will in just a second. 662 00:27:22,172 --> 00:27:23,592 [strains and grunts] 663 00:27:24,551 --> 00:27:25,791 - Let's go inside. 664 00:27:26,551 --> 00:27:27,591 Go inside. 665 00:27:38,931 --> 00:27:41,141 [animated chatter] 666 00:27:42,517 --> 00:27:44,757 [woman sings with acoustic guitar] 667 00:27:59,103 --> 00:28:00,863 [cheering] 668 00:28:03,103 --> 00:28:06,593 - Here's the file about April, Lamb and Lynx. 669 00:28:06,689 --> 00:28:08,099 The woman who was raising her kids 670 00:28:08,206 --> 00:28:11,546 to be in a sort of Nazi pop group. 671 00:28:11,655 --> 00:28:13,545 That's what they would look like at the time. 672 00:28:13,655 --> 00:28:15,445 That's not a brilliant picture, but... 673 00:28:15,551 --> 00:28:16,901 Producer: What was your memory of seeing them 674 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:18,030 for the first time, then? 675 00:28:18,137 --> 00:28:22,277 - Even though they did... stiff-armed Nazi salutes, 676 00:28:22,379 --> 00:28:25,689 right, the two kids, as part of their performance, 677 00:28:25,793 --> 00:28:27,763 I couldn't quite... 678 00:28:27,862 --> 00:28:30,282 It didn't fit into any of my understanding 679 00:28:30,379 --> 00:28:32,139 of what the scene, you know, 680 00:28:32,241 --> 00:28:34,691 the Nazi or skinhead scene was like, 681 00:28:34,793 --> 00:28:36,933 the fact there was two little girls. 682 00:28:37,034 --> 00:28:39,934 ♪ I want to tell you about South Africa ♪ 683 00:28:40,034 --> 00:28:43,664 ♪ And the so-called fight for freedom ♪ 684 00:28:43,758 --> 00:28:47,238 ♪ The march for black resistance ♪ 685 00:28:47,344 --> 00:28:50,794 ♪ And the communists who lead them ♪ 686 00:28:50,896 --> 00:28:53,856 ♪ Not too far away in Angola 687 00:28:53,965 --> 00:28:57,205 ♪ And near home Zimbabwe 688 00:28:57,310 --> 00:29:00,170 ♪ The Marxist Black dictators 689 00:29:00,275 --> 00:29:03,475 ♪ Are looking south in fear to see ♪ 690 00:29:03,586 --> 00:29:05,066 ♪ Strikeforce 691 00:29:05,172 --> 00:29:06,522 ♪ White survival 692 00:29:06,620 --> 00:29:09,000 ♪ Strikeforce, yeah 693 00:29:09,103 --> 00:29:11,793 ♪ Strikeforce gonna kill their rivals ♪ 694 00:29:11,896 --> 00:29:15,546 ♪ Strikeforce into the devil's lair. ♪ 695 00:29:15,655 --> 00:29:18,025 - What is the idea behind... 696 00:29:18,137 --> 00:29:19,787 ..creating this group out of them? 697 00:29:19,896 --> 00:29:21,856 - I think they're going to be an example 698 00:29:21,965 --> 00:29:23,585 and they're going to show 699 00:29:23,689 --> 00:29:26,449 how being proud of your race 700 00:29:26,551 --> 00:29:29,101 is something that would be very appealing. 701 00:29:29,206 --> 00:29:32,406 You know, I mean, what young, red-blooded American boy 702 00:29:32,517 --> 00:29:35,027 isn't going to find two blonde twins, 703 00:29:35,137 --> 00:29:36,757 16 years old, 704 00:29:36,862 --> 00:29:39,412 singing about white pride and pride in your race, 705 00:29:39,517 --> 00:29:41,717 wh...? Who...? 706 00:29:41,827 --> 00:29:44,137 Very few are not gonna find that very appealing. 707 00:29:44,241 --> 00:29:46,721 You could see that... 708 00:29:46,827 --> 00:29:50,447 ..they were both...you know, wanting to be dutiful daughters 709 00:29:50,551 --> 00:29:52,621 and respectful of their mum 710 00:29:52,724 --> 00:29:54,724 and sort of pay lip service to the beliefs, 711 00:29:54,827 --> 00:29:58,137 but that it didn't come that naturally to them. 712 00:29:58,241 --> 00:29:59,451 Are there things that they're forbidden, 713 00:29:59,551 --> 00:30:00,761 that other kids have, 714 00:30:00,862 --> 00:30:02,482 things that you deny them? 715 00:30:03,482 --> 00:30:04,722 - Gameboys, we don't... 716 00:30:04,827 --> 00:30:09,027 - Yeah, I'm not much for the Nintendo computer games. 717 00:30:09,137 --> 00:30:11,547 - What about on racial terms, though? 718 00:30:11,655 --> 00:30:12,825 - Oh, we've got Ethnic Cleansing, 719 00:30:12,931 --> 00:30:14,901 but we don't play that very often. 720 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:18,380 - What's that? - That's a...a computer game 721 00:30:18,482 --> 00:30:20,102 that the National Alliance puts out 722 00:30:20,206 --> 00:30:22,376 called...it's called Ethnic Cleansing. 723 00:30:22,482 --> 00:30:25,722 It's basically a shoot-'em-up computer game 724 00:30:25,827 --> 00:30:29,587 in which, basically, a skinhead goes through a ghetto 725 00:30:29,689 --> 00:30:32,029 and shoots Blacks and Mexicans. 726 00:30:32,137 --> 00:30:34,447 - Do you like it? - Mm-hm. 727 00:30:34,551 --> 00:30:37,551 It's really hard, though, 'cause, of course, 728 00:30:37,655 --> 00:30:40,965 all the people that you shoot have guns, too. 729 00:30:41,068 --> 00:30:42,588 - They're shooting back. 730 00:30:42,689 --> 00:30:44,209 They hide in bushes and stuff. 731 00:30:44,310 --> 00:30:47,720 They're like perched up on basketball hoops 732 00:30:47,827 --> 00:30:49,617 and stuff, climbing in trees and stuff. 733 00:30:49,724 --> 00:30:51,074 So, you've got to watch out, 734 00:30:51,172 --> 00:30:52,722 and then when you hear this gorilla sound, 735 00:30:52,827 --> 00:30:54,027 they make gorilla sounds. 736 00:30:54,137 --> 00:30:55,897 It goes, "Oo-oo-oo," like that, 737 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,170 and you go, wee, like that, and then you shoot it. 738 00:30:58,275 --> 00:31:00,275 Is that a good idea, do you think, April? 739 00:31:00,379 --> 00:31:02,969 - It seems a little, er... - Vulgar? 740 00:31:04,068 --> 00:31:06,828 - OK. [April laughs] 741 00:31:06,931 --> 00:31:09,171 ♪ They call me Nazi and I'm proud of that ♪ 742 00:31:09,275 --> 00:31:11,895 ♪ They call me racist and I shout it out loud ♪ 743 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,280 ♪ I'm proud of my race and proud of my land ♪ 744 00:31:14,379 --> 00:31:16,519 ♪ White brothers and sisters come raise your hand ♪ 745 00:31:16,620 --> 00:31:18,760 ♪ We're an 88 rock 'n' roll band ♪ 746 00:31:18,862 --> 00:31:21,282 ♪ We're an 88 rock 'n' roll band... ♪ 747 00:31:21,379 --> 00:31:25,069 - April was just April, she always will be. 748 00:31:25,172 --> 00:31:26,622 She'll always have the same views. 749 00:31:26,724 --> 00:31:28,174 She's incapable of... 750 00:31:28,275 --> 00:31:30,095 I would argue, like, at this point, 751 00:31:30,206 --> 00:31:32,136 incapable of change. 752 00:31:32,241 --> 00:31:34,381 She sees everything through a racial lens. 753 00:31:34,482 --> 00:31:36,412 She never switches off. 754 00:31:36,517 --> 00:31:37,997 - This is my dad, Bill Gaede. 755 00:31:38,103 --> 00:31:39,903 - Bill Gaede. - Yeah. 756 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,140 Right now, all the people 757 00:31:42,241 --> 00:31:43,521 have been so politically correct, 758 00:31:43,620 --> 00:31:44,620 they wouldn't say shit 759 00:31:44,724 --> 00:31:47,384 if they had a mouth full of it, you know? 760 00:31:47,482 --> 00:31:49,862 But now that people are beginning... 761 00:31:49,965 --> 00:31:52,025 to see what's going on and they're beginning... 762 00:31:52,137 --> 00:31:53,857 their backbone's beginning to straighten up a little bit 763 00:31:53,965 --> 00:31:54,995 and get a little stiffer... 764 00:31:56,103 --> 00:31:57,283 ..all the white people are. 765 00:31:57,379 --> 00:31:58,719 - I'm a multiculturalist. 766 00:31:58,827 --> 00:32:00,307 - Are you? - Yeah. 767 00:32:00,413 --> 00:32:02,033 - Do you usually date white women? 768 00:32:04,586 --> 00:32:05,826 So far. 769 00:32:08,103 --> 00:32:09,413 That's what you find attractive. 770 00:32:09,517 --> 00:32:10,757 Does Jewish count as white? 771 00:32:10,862 --> 00:32:12,452 - No. - No, not in our books. 772 00:32:12,551 --> 00:32:14,311 Why not? [Bill laughs] 773 00:32:15,758 --> 00:32:17,478 Theroux narrates: After the film came out, 774 00:32:17,586 --> 00:32:19,406 it caused quite a stir 775 00:32:19,517 --> 00:32:21,307 and, for a while, 776 00:32:21,413 --> 00:32:25,143 well, it led to more coverage. 777 00:32:25,241 --> 00:32:27,031 Sometimes, I had the sense they were trolling the media 778 00:32:27,137 --> 00:32:29,687 because I remember there was a moment 779 00:32:29,793 --> 00:32:31,143 when a news story appeared 780 00:32:31,241 --> 00:32:33,721 about T-shirts that they were wearing 781 00:32:33,827 --> 00:32:35,997 with a kind of Hitler smiley face. 782 00:32:39,068 --> 00:32:43,028 Then it went quiet, until 2011. 783 00:32:43,137 --> 00:32:44,657 Newsreader: We first introduced you 784 00:32:44,758 --> 00:32:47,168 to twins Lamb and Lynx Gaede five years ago, 785 00:32:47,275 --> 00:32:49,025 but these adorable, freckle-faced twins 786 00:32:49,137 --> 00:32:50,927 weren't singing songs of love, 787 00:32:51,034 --> 00:32:53,074 but songs of hate. 788 00:32:53,172 --> 00:32:55,412 Theroux narrates: A glossy daytime TV segment 789 00:32:55,517 --> 00:32:58,857 reported that the twins had renounced their beliefs. 790 00:32:58,965 --> 00:33:00,615 Newsreader: But now, at age 19, 791 00:33:00,724 --> 00:33:03,174 the young duo formerly known as Prussian Blue 792 00:33:03,275 --> 00:33:06,405 say they've changed their neo-Nazi ways. 793 00:33:09,689 --> 00:33:11,549 Theroux narrates: They describe themselves now as very liberal 794 00:33:11,655 --> 00:33:14,335 and have openly apologised for the things they said 795 00:33:14,448 --> 00:33:15,758 and did in the past. 796 00:33:17,310 --> 00:33:19,520 Hello? 797 00:33:19,620 --> 00:33:21,240 - Hey. [dog barks] 798 00:33:21,344 --> 00:33:22,624 - Oh, my goodness. 799 00:33:22,724 --> 00:33:25,834 I can see, from where I'm sitting, 800 00:33:25,931 --> 00:33:27,971 I'm going to say that's Lynx on the left 801 00:33:28,068 --> 00:33:29,788 and Lamb on the right. 802 00:33:29,896 --> 00:33:31,996 This is Lynx and I'm Lamb. 803 00:33:32,103 --> 00:33:34,243 - Yeah, that's what I thought. - Yeah. 804 00:33:34,344 --> 00:33:35,724 And who's the little person? 805 00:33:35,827 --> 00:33:38,097 - This is my daughter, Oslo. 806 00:33:38,206 --> 00:33:39,586 - It's lovely to see you. 807 00:33:39,689 --> 00:33:43,589 It's 16 years since we last spoke. 808 00:33:43,689 --> 00:33:44,689 Yeah. 809 00:33:44,793 --> 00:33:46,863 - I think you'd probably be entitled 810 00:33:46,965 --> 00:33:49,235 to be a little angry... 811 00:33:49,344 --> 00:33:53,104 ..about what happened to you, right? 812 00:33:53,206 --> 00:33:55,616 That you were too young. You were ten years old 813 00:33:55,724 --> 00:33:57,414 when you were being put on stage 814 00:33:57,517 --> 00:33:59,757 singing... white nationalist music. 815 00:33:59,862 --> 00:34:02,452 - Mm-hm. - Do you feel that at all? 816 00:34:02,551 --> 00:34:03,861 Not any more. 817 00:34:03,965 --> 00:34:05,165 When we were teenagers, 818 00:34:05,275 --> 00:34:06,755 there definitely was a lot of resentment 819 00:34:06,862 --> 00:34:09,282 and anger and, you know, 820 00:34:09,379 --> 00:34:11,759 blame being placed upon my mum, 821 00:34:11,862 --> 00:34:15,552 but now it's more just pity. 822 00:34:15,655 --> 00:34:18,475 Like, those little girls were so separate 823 00:34:18,586 --> 00:34:19,966 from what we are now. 824 00:34:20,068 --> 00:34:22,998 Like, we're very removed, even watching it, 825 00:34:23,103 --> 00:34:25,793 it's very hard to even kind of comprehend. 826 00:34:25,896 --> 00:34:29,716 - We didn't understand fully, like... 827 00:34:29,827 --> 00:34:32,827 ..how controversial the subject was. 828 00:34:32,931 --> 00:34:35,791 Racism and those beliefs, 829 00:34:35,896 --> 00:34:38,406 they are taught and they are learned, 830 00:34:38,517 --> 00:34:42,587 and they can also be unlearned and untaught. 831 00:34:53,551 --> 00:34:54,481 Lunch, guys. 832 00:34:54,586 --> 00:34:55,966 Do you want to come down for lunch? 833 00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:58,310 - Yeah. 834 00:34:58,413 --> 00:35:00,973 - Thanks, Fred. Al? 835 00:35:04,034 --> 00:35:05,904 Our beliefs are part of the quest 836 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,620 that we pass on to those around us, 837 00:35:08,724 --> 00:35:09,864 and especially to our children, 838 00:35:09,965 --> 00:35:12,445 so it carries with it a weight of responsibility. 839 00:35:14,137 --> 00:35:15,787 And there's also the undeniable fact 840 00:35:15,896 --> 00:35:19,206 that many of those most in need of belief, 841 00:35:19,310 --> 00:35:21,480 those searching for it most fervently, 842 00:35:21,586 --> 00:35:25,026 have some vulnerability about them. 843 00:35:25,137 --> 00:35:26,757 We should have cameras around more often, 844 00:35:26,862 --> 00:35:28,142 I think everyone's a bit better behaved. 845 00:35:28,241 --> 00:35:29,831 - Do you want something else? 846 00:35:29,931 --> 00:35:33,241 - That's definitely something I've noticed over the years. 847 00:35:36,068 --> 00:35:37,478 - Can you give us a little tour? 848 00:35:38,655 --> 00:35:40,095 Well, this is it. 849 00:35:40,206 --> 00:35:41,656 I have a little altar 850 00:35:41,758 --> 00:35:43,618 to help me remember. 851 00:35:45,655 --> 00:35:48,715 - You know, there's something in me that wants to believe 852 00:35:48,827 --> 00:35:50,137 and there's also something in me 853 00:35:50,241 --> 00:35:53,481 that stops me from believing, just in general. 854 00:35:53,586 --> 00:35:55,476 You know, I get moved in churches. 855 00:35:55,586 --> 00:35:58,476 When I go to a cathedral or a church or... 856 00:35:58,586 --> 00:36:00,896 ..a mosque, or whatever it may be. 857 00:36:01,793 --> 00:36:02,833 A temple... 858 00:36:05,206 --> 00:36:10,096 I can, um, I can find that powerful experience... 859 00:36:11,103 --> 00:36:12,143 ..and I envy people 860 00:36:12,241 --> 00:36:15,861 who have unconditional or mystical beliefs... 861 00:36:17,551 --> 00:36:19,101 ..and, at the same time, 862 00:36:19,206 --> 00:36:21,066 I can't quite embrace that myself. 863 00:36:21,172 --> 00:36:23,072 [man yells] Oh, God, oh, Jesus. 864 00:36:23,172 --> 00:36:26,932 Touch! To the Holy Ghost. Touch! To the Holy Ghost. 865 00:36:27,034 --> 00:36:30,764 Touch! Touch! Touch! 866 00:36:30,862 --> 00:36:32,172 That's His power. 867 00:36:32,275 --> 00:36:34,615 [woman cries and mutters] 868 00:36:34,724 --> 00:36:36,864 - [whispers] Thank you, Jesus. 869 00:36:36,965 --> 00:36:38,515 [crying] Completely healed. 870 00:36:39,655 --> 00:36:41,405 - Are you OK? - She's wonderful. 871 00:36:41,517 --> 00:36:43,687 - Are you sure? - Oh, yes, I know. I know. 872 00:36:43,793 --> 00:36:44,763 [woman laughs] 873 00:36:44,862 --> 00:36:46,482 I used to be a homosexual. 874 00:36:46,586 --> 00:36:48,826 - She was. She got delivered during the revival. 875 00:36:48,931 --> 00:36:51,101 - I used to smoke pot. 876 00:36:51,206 --> 00:36:54,896 I used to smoke cigarettes. 877 00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:58,380 I used to live at the bars, 878 00:36:58,482 --> 00:36:59,932 gay bars, that is. 879 00:37:00,034 --> 00:37:02,484 I'm 30 and... Oh! 880 00:37:02,586 --> 00:37:05,336 I'm 30 and I was gay all my life, 881 00:37:05,448 --> 00:37:08,378 - but the Lord delivered me. - Yeah. 882 00:37:08,482 --> 00:37:10,032 It seems like every day, 883 00:37:10,137 --> 00:37:12,277 I get delivered from something else 884 00:37:12,379 --> 00:37:13,789 that I didn't even know I had. 885 00:37:14,655 --> 00:37:16,235 - Transmission cards... 886 00:37:17,827 --> 00:37:19,137 ..from back in the day. 887 00:37:19,241 --> 00:37:21,311 Season two of 'Weird Weekends'. 888 00:37:21,413 --> 00:37:22,693 "The boy from the BBC 889 00:37:22,793 --> 00:37:24,723 "makes a host of new friends 890 00:37:24,827 --> 00:37:27,237 "in places you've never seen before." 891 00:37:28,965 --> 00:37:32,275 Marshall Sylver... [Aussie accent] Hello? 892 00:37:34,310 --> 00:37:37,210 [sing-song] Marshall Sylver... 893 00:37:37,310 --> 00:37:39,070 [normal voice] Passion, Profit and Power. 894 00:37:41,034 --> 00:37:44,074 "It's not enough to learn. One must become." 895 00:37:45,241 --> 00:37:48,971 It's like... Pound Shop Nietzsche. 896 00:37:49,068 --> 00:37:51,898 Producer: How did you become aware of him? 897 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,450 I had been watching TV late one night in America 898 00:37:54,551 --> 00:37:57,211 and I saw an infomercial. 899 00:37:57,310 --> 00:38:01,000 Imagine being able to overcome your limitations, 900 00:38:01,103 --> 00:38:03,973 to believe in new-found powers and abilities, 901 00:38:04,068 --> 00:38:05,338 and to use those skills 902 00:38:05,448 --> 00:38:07,338 to create the life of your dream. 903 00:38:07,448 --> 00:38:10,828 You know, I'd been a fan of infomercials generally, 904 00:38:10,931 --> 00:38:13,171 and especially the ones that were about getting rich 905 00:38:13,275 --> 00:38:15,235 or changing your life, 906 00:38:15,344 --> 00:38:18,104 because they're like spiritual figures in a way, 907 00:38:18,206 --> 00:38:20,586 the infomercial gurus... 908 00:38:20,689 --> 00:38:22,239 ..but they're using the language, 909 00:38:22,344 --> 00:38:24,934 the sort of vernacular language of American commerce 910 00:38:25,034 --> 00:38:27,344 to sell you life-changing results. 911 00:38:27,448 --> 00:38:29,998 Take it to a more practical level now. 912 00:38:30,103 --> 00:38:33,483 Imagine being able to duplicate the mind and thoughts, 913 00:38:33,586 --> 00:38:34,996 the body and physiology 914 00:38:35,103 --> 00:38:37,973 and the emotional intensity of the ultra wealthy 915 00:38:38,068 --> 00:38:39,688 to produce wealth and financial abundance 916 00:38:39,793 --> 00:38:41,003 in your life. 917 00:38:41,103 --> 00:38:43,033 When would be a good time to start 918 00:38:43,137 --> 00:38:44,657 creating a life of adventure 919 00:38:44,758 --> 00:38:46,548 rather than a life of maintenance? 920 00:38:46,655 --> 00:38:47,785 How about right now? 921 00:38:47,896 --> 00:38:50,166 Welcome to Passion, Profit and Power. 922 00:38:50,275 --> 00:38:52,925 My name is Marshall Sylver. 923 00:38:53,034 --> 00:38:56,524 I recognised in me a tug towards the simplicity 924 00:38:56,620 --> 00:38:58,930 that the...that the message contained. 925 00:38:59,034 --> 00:39:02,694 You know, the idea that, "Oh, it's very simple. 926 00:39:02,793 --> 00:39:04,973 "You just do one, two, three, four, five 927 00:39:05,068 --> 00:39:07,588 "and then you become a multimillionaire, 928 00:39:07,689 --> 00:39:09,719 "successful, and in charge of your life." 929 00:39:09,827 --> 00:39:10,757 There's a part of me 930 00:39:10,862 --> 00:39:14,212 that craves that level of simplicity 931 00:39:14,310 --> 00:39:17,240 and almost finds the idea of the self-sacrifice 932 00:39:17,344 --> 00:39:20,074 that that entails quite appealing. 933 00:39:21,034 --> 00:39:22,934 At an auditorium in Las Vegas, 934 00:39:23,034 --> 00:39:25,904 Marshall was presenting a day-long free seminar 935 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,520 for local businesspeople to show them techniques 936 00:39:28,620 --> 00:39:31,450 that would help them become more successful. 937 00:39:32,206 --> 00:39:34,276 - A lot of people! 938 00:39:34,379 --> 00:39:36,339 So, what's in it for Marshall, then? 939 00:39:36,448 --> 00:39:39,308 Is he also hoping to sell stuff to these people later? 940 00:39:39,413 --> 00:39:41,033 Correct. So, he knows, 941 00:39:41,137 --> 00:39:43,787 later on, after you give to people, 942 00:39:43,896 --> 00:39:46,066 they'll want more and you give them what they want. 943 00:39:46,172 --> 00:39:47,102 They'll pay the price. 944 00:39:47,206 --> 00:39:48,966 I've spent tens of thousand dollars 945 00:39:49,068 --> 00:39:50,928 on Marshall Sylver, on his seminars. 946 00:39:51,034 --> 00:39:52,214 - You have? - Correct. 947 00:39:52,310 --> 00:39:54,030 - Tens of thousands? Correct. 948 00:39:56,137 --> 00:39:57,477 - The way it worked was... 949 00:39:58,379 --> 00:39:59,619 ..you see the infomercial, 950 00:39:59,724 --> 00:40:01,764 you go along to a free event. 951 00:40:01,862 --> 00:40:04,172 So, that's where I first intersected 952 00:40:04,275 --> 00:40:05,685 with Marshall's story. 953 00:40:05,793 --> 00:40:08,833 Announcer: So, I want to give a great big Las Vegas welcome 954 00:40:08,931 --> 00:40:11,281 to Mr Marshall Sylver. 955 00:40:11,379 --> 00:40:12,659 Theroux narrates: The event was really a chance 956 00:40:12,758 --> 00:40:14,928 for Marshall to sell his other products, 957 00:40:15,034 --> 00:40:16,484 one called Turning Point, 958 00:40:16,586 --> 00:40:19,096 a $500 weekend of personal growth, 959 00:40:19,206 --> 00:40:23,066 and the other for $5,000 was a ten-week course 960 00:40:23,172 --> 00:40:25,382 called the Millionaire Mentorship Program. 961 00:40:25,482 --> 00:40:27,282 - Stand up and say, "Oh, yeah!" 962 00:40:27,379 --> 00:40:28,309 Crowd: Oh, yeah! 963 00:40:28,413 --> 00:40:31,723 - If you're still seated, you're not going to get it. 964 00:40:31,827 --> 00:40:32,967 Stand up for me. 965 00:40:33,068 --> 00:40:34,448 Theroux narrates: And it's a portrait 966 00:40:34,551 --> 00:40:35,901 of a certain slice of America 967 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,030 'cause, you know, it exists, probably, all over, 968 00:40:38,137 --> 00:40:41,027 but especially America and especially in Las Vegas. 969 00:40:41,137 --> 00:40:42,307 - A multi-millionaire, how many of you... 970 00:40:42,413 --> 00:40:44,313 - The cult of getting rich, 971 00:40:44,413 --> 00:40:46,523 the importance of being a success. 972 00:40:46,620 --> 00:40:48,210 - When I meet him, should I call him... 973 00:40:48,310 --> 00:40:49,660 - How should I address him? Man: Marshall's fine. 974 00:40:49,758 --> 00:40:50,688 - Not Mr Sylver? 975 00:40:50,793 --> 00:40:52,453 - No, you don't have to call him Mr Sylver! 976 00:40:53,413 --> 00:40:54,523 - Good to see you. 977 00:40:54,620 --> 00:40:56,340 Thanks for taking the time to speak to us. 978 00:40:56,448 --> 00:40:57,588 - Of course. - Thanks for inviting us 979 00:40:57,689 --> 00:40:59,099 - to your event. - I'm so glad you're here. 980 00:40:59,206 --> 00:41:00,376 - Welcome to Vegas. - It's amazing. 981 00:41:00,482 --> 00:41:04,002 I feel like you've got quite a powerful effect. 982 00:41:04,103 --> 00:41:06,343 You know, you've got a very steady gaze. 983 00:41:06,448 --> 00:41:08,278 - Oh, you're just saying that! - No, no, seriously. 984 00:41:08,379 --> 00:41:10,169 Actually, what's weird is I find it hard to concentrate 985 00:41:10,275 --> 00:41:11,785 on what you're actually saying... 986 00:41:11,896 --> 00:41:13,616 Because it feels like you might just relax... 987 00:41:13,724 --> 00:41:15,524 ..because I feel like I'm falling into your eyes. 988 00:41:15,620 --> 00:41:16,860 - ..and fall over. - Do you know what I mean? 989 00:41:16,965 --> 00:41:18,475 - Of course not. - No! 990 00:41:18,586 --> 00:41:20,856 - You know, that false front of friendliness 991 00:41:20,965 --> 00:41:22,375 that he presented, 992 00:41:22,482 --> 00:41:24,382 this sort of vigilant assessment 993 00:41:24,482 --> 00:41:26,522 of what's going on, like, he was kind of... 994 00:41:26,620 --> 00:41:29,170 behind his smiles 995 00:41:29,275 --> 00:41:31,685 was this suspicion 996 00:41:31,793 --> 00:41:34,793 and, um... And a sense of distance. 997 00:41:34,896 --> 00:41:36,716 - Even if you think we're only telling you to do it 998 00:41:36,827 --> 00:41:38,167 for our personal gain, 999 00:41:38,275 --> 00:41:40,025 how many of you are willing to trust us 1000 00:41:40,137 --> 00:41:42,547 and follow through and do what we tell you to do? 1001 00:41:42,655 --> 00:41:43,855 Theroux narrates: So, I went along 1002 00:41:43,965 --> 00:41:46,095 to his Turning Point seminar, the weekend-long event, 1003 00:41:46,206 --> 00:41:49,066 hoping to get the measure of the clientele he attracted 1004 00:41:49,172 --> 00:41:50,932 and what he was offering. 1005 00:41:57,758 --> 00:42:00,518 - What has attacked your self-esteem so much? 1006 00:42:00,620 --> 00:42:02,000 What is it that brings the tears up 1007 00:42:02,103 --> 00:42:03,173 inside of your heart? 1008 00:42:03,275 --> 00:42:06,755 - I know it's just, like, right within my grasp 1009 00:42:06,862 --> 00:42:08,172 to have everything I want. 1010 00:42:08,275 --> 00:42:11,445 Won't put enough effort into it to go and get it or do it, 1011 00:42:11,551 --> 00:42:13,211 and then I feel defeated again. 1012 00:42:13,310 --> 00:42:15,210 It's becoming a really vicious cycle 1013 00:42:15,310 --> 00:42:17,280 and it's starting to take its toll on me. 1014 00:42:17,379 --> 00:42:18,789 - You're afraid right now 1015 00:42:18,896 --> 00:42:20,856 that time is running out, aren't you? 1016 00:42:20,965 --> 00:42:22,545 - Yes, I am. - Thank you. That's the fear. 1017 00:42:22,655 --> 00:42:24,335 Theroux narrates: What came across was that 1018 00:42:24,448 --> 00:42:26,828 these were people with real needs... 1019 00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:30,280 - What do you want? 1020 00:42:32,344 --> 00:42:33,484 Confidence. 1021 00:42:33,586 --> 00:42:35,446 - ..investing time, energy and money 1022 00:42:35,551 --> 00:42:37,001 in something that... 1023 00:42:37,896 --> 00:42:39,586 ..seems evidently... 1024 00:42:40,586 --> 00:42:41,786 ..you know, questionable, 1025 00:42:41,896 --> 00:42:43,996 but, at the same time, there's some sadness there 1026 00:42:44,103 --> 00:42:45,523 and then there's a little part of you 1027 00:42:45,620 --> 00:42:46,790 that wants to believe. 1028 00:42:46,896 --> 00:42:49,066 - Did you grow up poor? - Um...yeah. 1029 00:42:49,172 --> 00:42:50,762 - OK. So, what do you want? 1030 00:42:50,862 --> 00:42:51,862 You don't want financial stability. 1031 00:42:51,965 --> 00:42:53,445 You want to live better, don't you? 1032 00:42:53,551 --> 00:42:55,001 - Yes. - You want more money. 1033 00:42:55,103 --> 00:42:56,723 - Yes. - It's OK to want more money. 1034 00:42:56,827 --> 00:42:59,787 I feel a little bit like there's peer pressure on me 1035 00:42:59,896 --> 00:43:02,096 - to put my hand up. - Mm-hm. 1036 00:43:02,206 --> 00:43:03,786 It's part of hypnosis. 1037 00:43:03,896 --> 00:43:05,376 He's kind of hypnotising us. 1038 00:43:05,482 --> 00:43:07,212 - Oh, yeah. What if it were true 1039 00:43:07,310 --> 00:43:09,100 that Marshall lived in a mobile home 1040 00:43:09,206 --> 00:43:10,336 and was on welfare? 1041 00:43:11,137 --> 00:43:12,587 What if it were true 1042 00:43:12,689 --> 00:43:14,969 that he's never even kissed a girl in his life? 1043 00:43:15,068 --> 00:43:16,788 - Yeah, and he goes off the stage 1044 00:43:16,896 --> 00:43:18,926 and cackles and says, "Those suckers!" 1045 00:43:19,034 --> 00:43:20,764 - Right. - Yeah, what about that? 1046 00:43:20,862 --> 00:43:22,522 Well, what if that were true 1047 00:43:22,620 --> 00:43:24,860 and, yet, because of their perception of what he is, 1048 00:43:24,965 --> 00:43:27,585 they change their life and they became millionaires 1049 00:43:27,689 --> 00:43:29,449 and they had successful relationships? 1050 00:43:29,551 --> 00:43:30,481 So, you're saying 1051 00:43:30,586 --> 00:43:34,136 even a charlatan can create real results? 1052 00:43:34,241 --> 00:43:35,141 - Oh, definitely. 1053 00:43:35,241 --> 00:43:37,551 There are charlatans, as you say. 1054 00:43:37,655 --> 00:43:38,785 And yet... 1055 00:43:40,034 --> 00:43:42,794 ..if it's a charlatan that creates a miracle, 1056 00:43:42,896 --> 00:43:44,756 the key is that the miracle was created. 1057 00:43:44,862 --> 00:43:46,312 Does the millionaire membership plan 1058 00:43:46,413 --> 00:43:48,693 - really work, really? - No. 1059 00:43:48,793 --> 00:43:50,143 - No? - Not for you. 1060 00:43:50,241 --> 00:43:53,241 - No? - It would never work for you... 1061 00:43:53,344 --> 00:43:54,834 ..'cause you have to have the faith of a mustard seed 1062 00:43:54,931 --> 00:43:56,001 and you have none. 1063 00:43:56,103 --> 00:43:57,693 I can teach you skills. 1064 00:43:57,793 --> 00:43:59,663 You still have to get over your scepticism, 1065 00:43:59,758 --> 00:44:01,138 which is something you learned, by the way. 1066 00:44:01,241 --> 00:44:03,341 So, as much as it seems like your scepticism 1067 00:44:03,448 --> 00:44:04,858 - is healthy... - Yeah. 1068 00:44:04,965 --> 00:44:07,475 ..my belief in something is also as scary 1069 00:44:07,586 --> 00:44:09,406 as your scepticism is scary to you. 1070 00:44:09,517 --> 00:44:12,787 Not that long after we finished filming... 1071 00:44:13,758 --> 00:44:16,028 ..there was a prosecution. 1072 00:44:16,137 --> 00:44:17,997 Nine counts of theft 1073 00:44:18,103 --> 00:44:21,313 by obtaining money under false pretences. 1074 00:44:21,413 --> 00:44:22,483 Newsreader: Marshall Sylver 1075 00:44:22,586 --> 00:44:25,446 faces up to 45 years in prison if convicted. 1076 00:44:25,551 --> 00:44:27,621 Jean Puffer knows Sylver well. 1077 00:44:27,724 --> 00:44:29,244 He paid four grand to join the program, 1078 00:44:29,344 --> 00:44:30,834 hoping to use Sylver's techniques 1079 00:44:30,931 --> 00:44:32,661 to start his own business. 1080 00:44:32,758 --> 00:44:34,378 But when his venture never took off, 1081 00:44:34,482 --> 00:44:36,072 he wanted the cheerful refund 1082 00:44:36,172 --> 00:44:37,932 he claims Sylver promised. 1083 00:44:38,034 --> 00:44:40,004 What he says he got was anything but cheerful. 1084 00:44:40,103 --> 00:44:41,763 Some of the stories that came back 1085 00:44:41,862 --> 00:44:43,382 were kind of extraordinary. 1086 00:44:43,482 --> 00:44:45,592 Like, people who'd paid thousands of dollars 1087 00:44:45,689 --> 00:44:48,859 to be on the program were assigned a mentor, 1088 00:44:48,965 --> 00:44:50,995 only to have the mentor, 1089 00:44:51,103 --> 00:44:54,383 in one case, come in and live with the guy, 1090 00:44:54,482 --> 00:44:56,002 the person, the student... 1091 00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:57,930 ..for several months 1092 00:44:58,034 --> 00:44:59,314 and then steal his car 1093 00:44:59,413 --> 00:45:01,763 and raise $10,000 on his credit card. 1094 00:45:01,862 --> 00:45:03,142 Newsreader: We tried to find him today 1095 00:45:03,241 --> 00:45:05,621 at his 9,000 square foot home, but he wasn't there. 1096 00:45:05,724 --> 00:45:07,344 - In the end, there was a hung jury, 1097 00:45:07,448 --> 00:45:09,478 so there was no conviction. 1098 00:45:09,586 --> 00:45:12,586 It turned out he had quite a colourful pre-history. 1099 00:45:12,689 --> 00:45:14,929 He'd done six months in federal prison 1100 00:45:15,034 --> 00:45:17,694 for counterfeiting $50 bills. 1101 00:45:17,793 --> 00:45:19,383 And there was also a suit brought by a woman 1102 00:45:19,482 --> 00:45:20,522 who worked for him 1103 00:45:20,620 --> 00:45:23,520 claiming verbal sexual harassment. 1104 00:45:23,620 --> 00:45:26,590 She said he told her that he could give her 1105 00:45:26,689 --> 00:45:28,279 a one-hour orgasm. 1106 00:45:30,172 --> 00:45:34,242 In the end, he settled before it went to trial. 1107 00:45:34,344 --> 00:45:38,104 But it was just a lot of cheesy, creepy stuff. 1108 00:45:38,206 --> 00:45:40,516 [cheering and applause] 1109 00:45:40,620 --> 00:45:43,410 Wow! Oh, good. Hi, sweetie. 1110 00:45:43,517 --> 00:45:45,027 - Now, he's still doing it, 1111 00:45:45,137 --> 00:45:47,687 in the same slick video packages, 1112 00:45:47,793 --> 00:45:51,483 with their cheesy effects and catchphrases, 1113 00:45:51,586 --> 00:45:54,066 seemingly as successful as ever. 1114 00:45:54,172 --> 00:45:56,522 - I could take any one of you in this room, 1115 00:45:56,620 --> 00:45:57,930 and some I already have, 1116 00:45:58,034 --> 00:45:59,594 and I certainly could take any one of you 1117 00:45:59,689 --> 00:46:01,589 watching this from your home, 1118 00:46:01,689 --> 00:46:04,789 and, within 12 months, make you a millionaire. 1119 00:46:04,896 --> 00:46:07,686 If you'd like me to pick you, you say, "Oh, yeah." 1120 00:46:07,793 --> 00:46:09,723 Crowd: Oh, yeah. - Oh, yeah. 1121 00:46:09,827 --> 00:46:13,407 - The number one tool you need to learn to make more money 1122 00:46:13,517 --> 00:46:16,067 are the skills of irresistible influence. 1123 00:46:16,172 --> 00:46:18,142 Irresistible influence is getting someone 1124 00:46:18,241 --> 00:46:20,241 to beg you for what you're selling 1125 00:46:20,344 --> 00:46:23,004 and have them believe it was their idea. [chuckles] 1126 00:46:23,103 --> 00:46:25,283 Gets me giddy every time I think about it. 1127 00:46:25,379 --> 00:46:27,379 How many of you in this room, and you at home, 1128 00:46:27,482 --> 00:46:28,662 would want someone 1129 00:46:28,758 --> 00:46:30,968 to influence you to buy something for $3,000 1130 00:46:31,068 --> 00:46:33,028 that came back as over 200 million? 1131 00:46:33,137 --> 00:46:34,927 Put your hand up. If you're at home, 1132 00:46:35,034 --> 00:46:37,074 type "oh, yeah" into the chat. 1133 00:46:37,172 --> 00:46:38,552 If it's too difficult to say, 1134 00:46:38,655 --> 00:46:40,585 "Oh, yeah," or type in, "Oh, yeah", 1135 00:46:40,689 --> 00:46:43,479 your life's already guaranteed to suck. 1136 00:46:43,586 --> 00:46:44,996 Guaranteed to suck! 1137 00:46:46,344 --> 00:46:48,764 [crowd chants 'Trump' repeatedly] 1138 00:46:50,517 --> 00:46:53,517 - This is something that they haven't really seen before. 1139 00:46:53,620 --> 00:46:54,930 I think they're saying 1140 00:46:55,034 --> 00:46:57,834 they've never seen anything like this before. 1141 00:46:57,931 --> 00:47:00,551 Our country does not win any more. 1142 00:47:00,655 --> 00:47:02,655 We don't win against ISIS. 1143 00:47:02,758 --> 00:47:04,718 We don't win with trade. 1144 00:47:04,827 --> 00:47:06,657 We will begin working 1145 00:47:06,758 --> 00:47:09,588 on an impenetrable, physical, 1146 00:47:09,689 --> 00:47:15,479 tall, powerful, beautiful southern border wall. 1147 00:47:15,586 --> 00:47:18,066 From this day forward, 1148 00:47:18,172 --> 00:47:21,902 a new vision will govern our land. 1149 00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:24,310 From this day forward, 1150 00:47:24,413 --> 00:47:29,623 it's going to be only America first. 1151 00:47:38,206 --> 00:47:40,406 You made it look a little easier than I'm finding it. 1152 00:47:40,517 --> 00:47:42,237 What do you think people in Britain are going to think 1153 00:47:42,344 --> 00:47:43,934 when they see you on this tape? 1154 00:47:44,034 --> 00:47:45,414 - That I'm a radical nut. 1155 00:47:45,517 --> 00:47:47,337 - Yeah? - Yeah. 1156 00:47:47,448 --> 00:47:48,688 But that's OK. 1157 00:47:50,068 --> 00:47:51,898 I think my kids think I'm a radical nut. 1158 00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:53,280 - Really? - Yeah. 1159 00:47:53,379 --> 00:47:55,519 When we spoke back in '96, 1160 00:47:55,620 --> 00:47:59,340 it was during the middle of Bill Clinton's second term. 1161 00:47:59,448 --> 00:48:01,518 I'm just wondering, as you look round now, 1162 00:48:01,620 --> 00:48:02,900 in a world that's very different, 1163 00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:04,900 what do you think about Trump? 1164 00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:09,480 - I think Trump represents... 1165 00:48:09,586 --> 00:48:13,926 ..what is great about being an American. 1166 00:48:14,896 --> 00:48:17,786 I don't always like 1167 00:48:17,896 --> 00:48:19,996 the way he head-butts with people, 1168 00:48:20,103 --> 00:48:22,483 but I admire him for doing it. 1169 00:48:22,586 --> 00:48:23,926 - What do you see happening... 1170 00:48:24,896 --> 00:48:26,756 ..in the next five or ten years? 1171 00:48:27,724 --> 00:48:29,524 - We're going to be living 1172 00:48:29,620 --> 00:48:31,930 in a free and happy world, ultimately. 1173 00:48:32,034 --> 00:48:35,174 What strife and what years it's going to take 1174 00:48:35,275 --> 00:48:36,995 to get to that point, I don't know. 1175 00:48:37,103 --> 00:48:38,903 That's going to be my children 1176 00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:40,620 and grandchildren's problem 1177 00:48:40,724 --> 00:48:42,594 to get that solved and I think they will, 1178 00:48:42,689 --> 00:48:45,519 because I don't think there's a power on this Earth... 1179 00:48:46,689 --> 00:48:49,139 ..that can keep down the human spirit. 1180 00:48:49,241 --> 00:48:51,001 Something tells me this isn't going to be 1181 00:48:51,103 --> 00:48:52,593 the last time we speak, Mike. 1182 00:48:52,689 --> 00:48:55,279 I don't know why, but, uh, it's always a pleasure. 1183 00:48:55,379 --> 00:48:56,659 Let's catch up again. 1184 00:48:56,758 --> 00:48:58,858 Whenever it happens, I'll look forward to it. 1185 00:48:58,965 --> 00:49:01,375 I will, too, Louis, 1186 00:49:01,482 --> 00:49:03,522 and say hi to your lovely wife. 1187 00:49:03,620 --> 00:49:04,550 I will. 1188 00:49:04,655 --> 00:49:06,375 - Give your boys a hug. 1189 00:49:06,482 --> 00:49:08,102 Thank you. Take care, Mike. 1190 00:49:08,206 --> 00:49:10,026 - Alright. Bye-bye. - Bye. 1191 00:49:13,724 --> 00:49:15,974 - Just think about who Mike has previously 1192 00:49:16,068 --> 00:49:17,378 been associated with. 1193 00:49:17,482 --> 00:49:19,452 Think about how he sees the world. 1194 00:49:19,551 --> 00:49:21,791 Idaho hillside dwelling, 1195 00:49:21,896 --> 00:49:24,206 end-times believing, 1196 00:49:24,310 --> 00:49:27,410 fire-breathing patriot. 1197 00:49:27,517 --> 00:49:29,757 Mike's beliefs didn't have to change. 1198 00:49:29,862 --> 00:49:32,522 Mike still believes, more or less, 1199 00:49:32,620 --> 00:49:35,030 the same things he always believed... 1200 00:49:36,137 --> 00:49:38,587 ..but now he has, in the White House, 1201 00:49:38,689 --> 00:49:41,209 a president he sees as an ally. 1202 00:49:42,724 --> 00:49:45,344 It's kind of amazing, when you think about it. 1203 00:49:45,448 --> 00:49:47,758 ♪ Well, well, well, well, well ♪ 1204 00:49:47,862 --> 00:49:48,932 - ♪ That's alright 1205 00:49:49,034 --> 00:49:50,974 ♪ Oh, yes, it is That's alright... ♪ 1206 00:49:51,068 --> 00:49:53,998 - Belief in general, real sincere belief, faith, 1207 00:49:54,103 --> 00:49:56,973 for want of a better term, is like rocket fuel. 1208 00:49:57,068 --> 00:50:00,478 It powers you into achieving things 1209 00:50:00,586 --> 00:50:03,616 that you would think would be outside your grasp. 1210 00:50:03,724 --> 00:50:06,904 It might seem wrong-headed, 1211 00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:09,450 incorrect, even ludicrous, 1212 00:50:09,551 --> 00:50:11,141 even dangerous, 1213 00:50:11,241 --> 00:50:12,551 but this set of beliefs, 1214 00:50:12,655 --> 00:50:14,515 that may have no connection with reality, 1215 00:50:14,620 --> 00:50:16,760 can have a real impact 1216 00:50:16,862 --> 00:50:19,662 on how you turn your life around. 1217 00:50:19,758 --> 00:50:22,408 I call myself an atheist only very grudgingly 1218 00:50:22,517 --> 00:50:24,827 because I sort of am a fan of... 1219 00:50:26,620 --> 00:50:29,900 religion, although not...of God. 1220 00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:31,140 You know, people say, 1221 00:50:31,241 --> 00:50:32,621 "Oh, don't believe in religion, believe in God." 1222 00:50:32,724 --> 00:50:34,764 I feel like it's the other way round. 1223 00:50:34,862 --> 00:50:38,862 Like, I think I believe in religion more than God. 1224 00:50:41,103 --> 00:50:42,453 It's rocket fuel. 1225 00:50:42,551 --> 00:50:45,551 Captioned by Ai-Media ai-media.tv 86548

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