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(somber music)
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- [Narrator] 150 years ago, the business corporation
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was a relatively insignificant institution.
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Today it is all-pervasive,
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like the church, the monarchy,
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and the Communist Party in other times and places.
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The corporation is today's dominant institution.
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This documentary examines the nature, evolution, impacts,
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and possible futures of the modern business corporation.
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Initially given a narrow legal mandate,
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what has allowed today's corporation
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to achieve such extraordinary power
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and influence over our lives?
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We begin our inquiry
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as scandals threaten to trigger a wide debate
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about the lack of public control over big corporations.
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- I do think there is an overhang
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over the market,
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of distrust.
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This 95%, or some percent,
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huge percentage of the business community are honest
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and reveal all their assets,
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got compensation programs that are balanced,
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but there are some bad apples.
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- [Narrator] The media debate about
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the basic operating principles of the corporate world
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was quickly reduced to a game of follow the leader.
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- I still happen to think the United States
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is the greatest place in the world to invest.
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We have some shake-ups that are going on
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because of a few bad apples.
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โช Some people call me a bad apple โช
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โช Well I may be bruised โช
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โช But I still taste sweet โช
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โช Some people call me a bad apple โช
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โช But I may be the sweetest apple on the tree โช
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- These are not just a bunch of bad apples.
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- This is just a few bad apples.
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- It's not just a few bad apples.
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- We've gotta get rid of the bad apples.
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You can start with Tyco.
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- Bad apples.
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- We know all about Worldcom.
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- Bad apples.
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- Xerox Corporation.
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- Bad apples.
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- Arthur Anderson.
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- Bad apples.
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- Enron, obviously.
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- Bad apples.
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- Kmart corporation.
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- That fruit cart is getting a little more full.
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- I don't think it's just a few apples, unfortunately.
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I think this is the worst crisis of confidence in business.
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- [Narrator] What's wrong with this picture?
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Can't we pick a better metaphor
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to describe the dominant institution of our time?
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Through the voices of CEOs, whistleblowers,
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brokers, gurus and spies, insiders and outsiders,
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we present the corporation as a paradox,
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an institution that creates great wealth
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but causes enormous and often hidden harms.
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(eerie electronic music)
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- [Man] I see the corporation as part of a jigsaw
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in society as a whole,
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which if you remove it, the picture's incomplete,
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but equally, if it's the only path,
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then it's not gonna work.
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- [Man] A sports team.
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Some of us are blocking and tackling,
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some of us are running the ball,
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some of us are throwing the ball,
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but we all have a common purpose,
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which is to succeed as an organization.
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- [Man] The corporation's like a family unit.
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People in the corporation work together for a common end.
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- [Man] Like the telephone system,
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it reaches almost everywhere.
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It's extraordinarily powerful,
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it's pretty hard to avoid,
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and it transforms the lives of people,
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I think on balance for the better.
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- The eagle,
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soaring,
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clear-eyed,
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competitive,
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prepared to strike, but not a vulture,
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noble,
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visionary,
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majestic,
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that people can believe in and be inspired by,
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that creates such a lift that it soars.
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I could see that being a good logo
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for the principled company.
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(laughs)
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Okay, guys, enough bullshit!
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(strange electronic music)
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- [Man] Corporations are artificial creations.
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You might say they're monsters
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trying to devour as much profit as possible,
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at anyone's expense.
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(people screaming)
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- [Man] I think of a whale,
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gentle,
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big fish,
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which could swallow you in an instant.
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- [Woman] Dr. Frankenstein's creation
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has overwhelmed and overpowered him,
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as the corporate form has done with us.
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(scary music)
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- The word corporate gets attached in almost,
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in a pejorative sense to,
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and it gets married with the word agenda.
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And one hears a lot about the corporate agenda,
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as though it is easy,
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as though it is an agenda
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which is trying to take over the world.
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(protesters chanting)
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Personally, I don't use the word corporation.
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I use the word business.
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I will use the word
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company.
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I'll use the words business community,
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because I think that is a much fairer representation
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than zeroing in on just this word corporation.
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(film roll whirring)
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- [Man] What is a corporation?
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- It's funny that I've taught in a business school
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for as long as I have,
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without ever having been asked so pointedly
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to say what I think a corporation is.
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- [Man] It is one form of business ownership.
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- It's a group of individuals working together
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to serve a variety of objectives,
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the principle one of which is earning
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large, growing, sustained legal returns
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for the people who own the business.
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(helicopter roaring)
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- The modern corporation
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has grown out of the Industrial Age.
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The Industrial Age began in 1712
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when an Englishman named Thomas Newcomen
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invented a steam-driven pump
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to pump water out of the English coal mines
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so the English coal mines could get it more coal to mine
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rather than hauling buckets of water out of the mine.
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It was all about productivity,
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more coal per man-hour.
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That was the dawn of the Industrial Age,
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and then it became more steel per man-hour,
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more textiles per man-hour,
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more automobiles per man-hour.
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And today it's more chips per man-hour,
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more gizmos per man-hour.
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The system is basically the same,
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producing more sophisticated products today.
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- The dominant role of corporations in our lives
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is essentially a product of roughly the past century.
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Corporations were originally associations of people
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who were chartered by a state
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to perform some particular function,
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like a group of people want to build
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a bridge over the Charles River
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or something like that.
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- There were very few chartered corporations
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in early United States history,
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and the ones that existed had clear stipulations
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in their state-issued charters,
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how long they could operate,
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the amount of capitalization,
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what they made or did or maintained, a turnpike, whatever,
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was in their Charter,
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and they didn't do anything else.
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They didn't own or couldn't own another corporation.
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Their shareholders were liable and so on.
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- In both law and the culture
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the corporation was considered a subordinate entity
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that was a gift from the people
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in order to serve the public good.
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(serious music)
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So you have that history,
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and we shouldn't be misled by it.
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It's not as if those are the halcyon days
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when all corporations served the public trust,
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but there's a lot to learn from that.
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(cannons blasting)
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- [Mary] The Civil War
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and the Industrial Revolution
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created enormous growth in corporations,
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and so there was an explosion of railroads
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who got large federal subsidies of land,
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banking, heavy manufacturing.
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And corporate lawyers a century and a half ago
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realized they needed more power to operate
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and wanted to remove some of the constraints
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that had historically been placed on the corporate form.
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- The 14th Amendment was passed at the end of the Civil War
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to give equal rights to black people,
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and therefore it said no state can deprive any person
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of life, liberty, or property
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without due process of law.
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And that was intended to prevent the states
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from taking away life, liberty, or property
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from black people,
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as they had done for so much of our history.
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And what happened is the corporations come into court,
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and corporation lawyers are very clever,
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and they say, "Oh, you can't deprive a person
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"of life, liberty, or property.
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"We are a person.
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"A corporation as a person."
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And Supreme Court goes along with that.
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(gavel slams)
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- And what was particularly grotesque about this
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was that the 14th Amendment was passed
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to protect newly freed slaves.
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So for instance,
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between 1890 and 1910
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there were 307 cases brought before the court
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under the 14th Amendment,
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288 of these brought by corporations,
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19 by African Americans.
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- 600,000 people were killed to get rights for people,
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and then with strokes of the pen over the next 30 years,
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judges applied those rights to capital and property,
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while stripping them from people.
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- Everybody makes a mistake once in a while,
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but I just can't be personally responsible.
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That's one of the weaknesses of a partnership.
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Isn't it, Sid?
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- Well, maybe you'd better incorporate the store.
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- [Partner] Incorporate it?
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- Yes.
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Incorporating would give you the big advantage
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of what you want right now:
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limited liability.
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You start with a group of people
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who want to invest their money in a company.
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Then these people apply for a charter as a corporation.
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This government issues a charter to that corporation.
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Now that corporation operates legally
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as an individual person.
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It is not a group of people.
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It is under the law a legal person.
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Imperial Steel Incorporated
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has many of the legal rights of a person.
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It can buy and sell property.
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It can borrow money.
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It can sue in court and be sued.
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It carries on a business.
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Imperial Steel, along with thousands of other legal persons,
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is a part of our daily living.
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It is a member of our society.
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- [Narrator] Having acquired the legal rights
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and protections of a person,
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the question arises
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what kind of person is the corporation?
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(nonchalant music)
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- Corporations were given the rights of immortal persons,
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but then special kinds of persons,
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persons who have no moral conscience.
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(aloof music)
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These are special kind of persons
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which are designed, and by law,
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to be concerned only for their stockholders
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and not, say, what are sometimes called their stakeholders,
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like the community or the workforce or whatever.
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The great problem of having corporate citizens
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is that they aren't like the rest of us.
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As Baron Thurlow in England
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is supposed to have said,
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they have no soul to save
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and they have no body to incarcerate.
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- I believe the mistake that a lot of people make
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when they think about corporations
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is they think corporations are like us.
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- General Electric is a kind old man with lots of stories.
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- Nike.
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- Young.
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- Energetic,
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- Microsoft, aggressive.
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- McDonalds, young, outgoing, enthusiastic.
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- Monsanto, immaculately dressed.
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- Disney, goofy.
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- The Body Shop, deceptive.
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- Very lovely.
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(woman laughs)
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- Do you know what The Body Shop is?
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- Nope. (woman laughs)
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- They think they have feelings,
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they have politics,
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they have belief systems.
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They really only have one thing,
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the bottom line,
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how to make as much money as they can in any given quarter.
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That's it.
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- Of course they make a profit,
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and it's a good thing.
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That's the incentive that makes capitalism work
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to give us more of the things that we need.
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That's the incentive that other economic systems lack.
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- People accuse us of
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only paying attention to the economic leg
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because they think that's what
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a businessperson's mindset is,
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it's just money.
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And it's not so,
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because we as business people
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know that we need to certainly address the environment
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but also we need to be seen as
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constructive members of society.
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- There are companies that do good for the communities.
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They produce services and goods
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that are a value to all of us,
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that make our lives better,
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and that's a good thing.
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The problem comes in in the profit motivation here,
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because these people, there's no such thing as enough.
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- And I always counter, point out
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there's no organization on this planet
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that can neglect its economic foundation.
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Even someone living under a banyan tree is dependent
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on support from someone.
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The economic link has to be addressed by everyone.
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It's not just a business issue.
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- [Narrator] But unlike someone under a banyan tree,
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all publicly traded corporations have been structured
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through a series of legal decisions
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to have a peculiar and disturbing characteristic.
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They are required by law
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to place the financial interests of their owners
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above competing interests.
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In fact, the corporation is legally bound
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to put its bottom line ahead of everything else,
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even the public good.
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- That's not a law of nature.
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That's a very specific decision,
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in fact, the judicial decision,
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so they're concerned only
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for the short-term profit of their stockholders
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who are very highly concentrated.
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(people shouting)
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- To whom do these companies owe
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loyalty?
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What does loyalty mean?
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It turns out that that was a rather naive concept anyway,
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as corporations are always owed obligation to themselves
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to get large and to get profitable.
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In doing this it tends to be more profitable
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to the extent it can make the other people pay the bills
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for its impact on society.
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There's a terrible word that economists use.
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- An externality
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is the effect of a transaction between two individuals
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on a third party who has not consented to
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or played any role in the carrying out of that transaction.
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And there are real problems in that area.
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There's no doubt about it.
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- Running a business is a tough proposition.
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There are costs to be minimized at every turn.
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And at some point the corporation says,
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"Let somebody else deal with that.
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"Let's let somebody else supplant the military power
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"to the Middle East to protect the oil at its source.
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"Let's let somebody else build the roads
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"that we can drive these automobiles on.
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"Let's let somebody else have those problems."
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And that is where externalities come from,
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that notion of, "Let somebody else deal with that.
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"I got all I can handle myself."
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- A corporation is an externalizing machine
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in the same way that a shark is a killing machine.
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Each one is designed in a very efficient way
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to accomplish particular objectives.
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In the achievement of those objectives
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there isn't any question of malevolence or of will.
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The enterprise has within it,
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and the shark has within it,
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those characteristics that enable it to do
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that for which it was designed.
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- So the pressure's on the corporation
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to deliver results
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now
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and to externalize any cost
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that this unwary or uncaring public
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will allow it to externalize.
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(perplexed music)
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- [Narrator] To determine the kind of personality
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that drives the corporation
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to behave like an externalizing machine,
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we can analyze it
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like a psychiatrist would a patient.
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We can even formulate a diagnosis
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on the basis of typical case histories
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of harm it has inflicted on others,
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selected from a universe of corporate activity.
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(unfriendly electronic music)
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- Well, this is the office of the National Labor Committee,
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here in the garment area of New York City.
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It's a little bit disheveled.
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These are all from different campaigns.
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To make this stuff concrete as possible
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we purchase all of the products
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from the factories that we're talking about.
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This shirt sells for $14.99
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and the women who made this shirt got paid three cents.
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Liz Claiborne jackets made in El Salvador,
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the jackets are $178,
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and the workers were paid 74 cents
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for every jacket they made.
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Alpine car stereos, 31 cents an hour.
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It's not just sneakers,
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it's not just apparel.
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It's everything.
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We were in Honduras,
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and some workers, they knew the kind of work that we did,
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and they approached us, these young workers,
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and they said, "Conditions in our factory are horrible.
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"Will you please meet with us?"
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And we said we would,
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but you can't meet in the developing world.
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You can't walk up to a factory
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with workers come out and you interview them.
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There's goons, there's spies, the military police.
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So you do everything in a clandestine manner.
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We're about to start the meeting,
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and in walk three guys,
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very tough-looking guys.
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The company had found out about our meeting
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and sent these spies.
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Obviously, we didn't have the meeting,
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but these young girls were really bright.
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And as they were leaving
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away from the eyesight of the spies,
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they started to put their hands underneath the table.
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And I put my palm under there,
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I put my hand under there,
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and they put into my my hand their pay stubs,
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so we'd know who they were, what they were paid,
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and the labels that they made in the factory
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so we'd know who they work for.
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And I took my hand out after everyone had left
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and in the palm of my hand
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was the face of Kathie Lee Gifford.
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But the bottom of it is the interesting part,
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"A portion of the proceeds from the sale of this garment
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"will be donated to various Children's Charities."
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It's very touching, gets you right here.
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Walmart is telling you if you purchase these pants
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and Kathie Lee is telling you you purchase these pants,
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you're gonna help children.
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The problem was the people handed us the label
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were 13 years of age.
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Do many people in her family work?
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(speaking in a foreign language)
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- [Interpreter] Just me.
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- [Charles] How many people do you support?
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(speaking in a foreign language)
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- [Interpreter] Eight people.
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- [Charles] Eight people.
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And how do you do it with that salary?
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Is it enough?
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(speaking in a foreign language)
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- Let's look at it from a different point of view.
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Let's look at it from the point of view
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of the the people in Bangladesh
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who are starving to death,
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the people in China who are starving to death,
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and the only thing that they have to offer to anybody
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that is worth anything
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is their low-cost labor.
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And in effect, what they are saying to the world
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is they have this big flag
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that says, "Come over and hire us!
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"We will work for 10 cents an hour
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"because 10 cents an hour will buy us the rice
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"that we need not to starve,"
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and, "Come and rescue us from our circumstance!"
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And so when Nike comes in,
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they are regarded by everybody in the community
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as an enormous godsend.
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(people shouting over each other)
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- [Charles] The door was wide open.
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- [Man] No no no no no no.
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- That's my clothes! - What are you doing?
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- [Charles] Those are my clothes!
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- [Man] This is not your clothes!
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Where's your camera? - What are you doing here?
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- [Charles] Let's leave!
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Don't touch the woman!
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- Okay, why? - Okay?
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- This is a private company.
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- [Charles] Yes.
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- Without permission, how can you come in?
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- [Charles] Uh-huh.
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Huh.
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Well, the door was wide open, and uh--
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- The only door wide open here is for the employees,
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not for you!
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- We went through the garbage dump
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in the Dominican Republic.
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We always do this kind of stuff.
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We dig around.
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One day we found a big pile
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of Nike's internal pricing documents.
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Nike assigns a time frame to each operation.
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They don't talk about minutes.
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They break the time frame into ten thousandths of a second.
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You get to the bottom of all 22 operations
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to give the workers 6.6 minutes to make the shirt.
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It's 70 cents an hour in the Dominican Republic.
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That 6.6 minutes equals eight cents.
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These are Nike's documents.
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That means the wages come to
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three tenths of 1% of retail price.
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This is the reality.
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It's the science of exploitation.
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(spooky music)
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- What happens in the areas
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where these corporations go in and are successful?
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They soon find that they can't do any more in that country
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because the wages are too high now.
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And what's that another way of saying?
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Well, the people are no longer desperate.
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So okay, we've used up all the desperate people there.
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They're all plump and healthy and wealthy.
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Let's move on to the next desperate lot
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and employ them and raise their level up.
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(sad music)
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- Well the whole idea of the export processing zone is that
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it will be the first step towards
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this wonderful new development.
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Through the investment that's attracted to these countries,
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there will be a trickle-down effect into the communities.
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But because so many countries are now in the game
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of creating these free trade enclaves,
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they have to keep providing more and more incentives
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for companies to come to their little denationalized pocket,
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and that the tax holidays get longer.
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So the workers rarely make enough money
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to buy three meals a day,
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let alone feed their local economy.
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(ominous music)
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- Something happened in 1940
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which marked the beginning of a new era,
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the era of the ability to synthesize and create
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on an unlimited scale,
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new chemicals that had never existed before in the world.
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- [Narrator] And using the magic of research,
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oil companies compete with each other
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in taking the petroleum molecule apart
557
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and rearranging it into,
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well, you name it.
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- So suddenly it became possible
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to produce any new chemicals, synthetic chemicals,
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the likes of which
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had never existed before in the world,
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for any purpose
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and at virtually no cost.
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- [Narrator] Fabrics, toothbrushes.
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Tires, insecticides.
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00:26:05,873 --> 00:26:07,073
Cosmetics, weed killers.
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A whole galaxy of things
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to make a better life on earth.
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- For instance, if you wanted to go to a chemist
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and say, "Look I want to have a chemical,
572
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"say a pesticide,
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"which will persist throughout the food chain,
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"and I don't want it to have to renew it very, very often.
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"I'd like it to be relatively non-destructible."
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And then he'd put two benzene molecules on the blackboard
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and add a chlorine here and a chlorine there,
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and that was DDT.
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- [Narrator] When the Eighth Army needed Jap civilians
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to help them out in our occupation,
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they called on native doctors to administer DDT
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under the supervision of our men
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to stem a potential typhus epidemic.
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Dusting like this goes a long way in checking disease,
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and the laugh's on them.
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Pardon our dust.
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(march-like music)
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(sorrowful music)
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- As the petrochemical era grew and grew,
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warning signs emerged that
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some of these chemicals could pose hazards.
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The data initially were trivial, anecdotal,
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but gradually a body of data started accumulating
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to the extent that we now know
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that these synthetic chemicals
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which have permeated our workplace,
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our consumer products, our air, our water,
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produce cancer and also birth defects
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and some other toxic effects.
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(sobering music)
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Furthermore, industry has known about this.
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At least most industries have known about this
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and have attempted to trivialize these risks.
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(afflicted music)
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If I take a gun and shoot you,
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that's criminal.
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If I expose you to some chemicals
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which knowingly are gonna kill you,
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what difference is there?
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The difference is that it takes longer to kill you.
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We are now in the midst of a major cancer epidemic,
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and I have no doubt,
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and I have documented the basis for this,
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that industry is largely responsible
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for this overwhelming epidemic of cancer
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in which one in every two men get cancer in their lifetimes
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and one in every three women get cancer in their lifetimes.
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(weighty music)
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Towards the end of 1989
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a great box of documents arrived at my office
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without any indication where they came from
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and I opened them and found in it
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a complete set of Monsanto files,
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particularly a set of files dealing
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with toxicological testing of cows
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who'd been given rBGH.
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- [Newscaster] BST, trade name Posilac, is being used
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in more than a quarter of the dairy herds
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in the United States
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according to Monsanto.
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The milk is being drunk
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by a large portion of the American population,
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since the Food and Drug Administration declared it safe
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for both cows and humans four years ago.
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- And at that time Monsanto was saying
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there's no evidence whatsoever, any adverse effects,
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"We don't use antibiotics."
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And this clearly showed
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that they had lied through their teeth.
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(eerie music)
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The files described areas of chronic information
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in the heart, lung, kidneys, spleen,
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also reproductive effects,
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also a whole series of other problems.
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- [Newscaster] It's the most comprehensive
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independent assessment of the drug
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concludes that BST results in unnecessary pain,
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suffering and distress for the cows.
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This is not acceptable for a drug
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designed simply to increase milk production.
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- It is a silly product.
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The industrial world is awash in milk.
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We're overproducing milk.
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We actually have governments around the world
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who pay farmers not to produce milk.
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So the first product Monsanto comes up with
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is a product that produces more of what we don't need.
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- Of course you'll want to inject Posilac
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to every eligible cow,
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as each cow not treated is a lost income opportunity.
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- But the problem was that use of the artificial hormone
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caused all kinds of problems for the cows,
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because something called mastitis,
664
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which is a very painful infection of the udders.
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When you milk the cow, if the cow has bad mastitis,
666
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some of the,
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and I don't know how to say this in a, you know,
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I hope people aren't watching at dinnertime,
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but the pus from the infection of the udders
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ends up in the milk,
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and the somatic cell count they call it,
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the bacteria count inside your milk goes up.
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- There's a cost to the cows.
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The cows gets sicker when they're injected with rBGH.
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They're injected with antibiotics.
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We know that people
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are consuming antibiotics through their food,
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and we know that that's contributing to
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antibiotic-resistant bacteria and diseases.
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And we know we're at a crisis
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when somebody can go into a hospital
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and get a staph infection
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and it can't be cured and they die.
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That's a crisis.
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- Bad for the cow,
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bad for the farmer,
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bad potentially for the consumer.
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The jury is out.
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We see a lot of conflicting evidence
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about potential health risks
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and of course as a consumer,
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my belief is why should I take any risk?
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(serious music)
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- [Narrator] Factory farm cows have not been
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the only victims of Monsanto products.
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Large areas of Vietnam were deforested by the U.S. military
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using Monsanto's Agent Orange.
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(dreadful music)
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The toxic herbicide reportedly caused
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over 50,000 birth defects,
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as well as hundreds of thousands of cancers
702
00:32:45,641 --> 00:32:47,070
in Vietnamese civilians and soldiers
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and in former American troops serving in Southeast Asia.
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Unlike the Vietnamese victims,
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00:32:55,249 --> 00:32:57,020
U.S. Vietnam veterans exposed to Agent Orange
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00:32:58,097 --> 00:33:00,263
were able to sue Monsanto for causing their illnesses.
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Monsanto settled out of court,
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paying $80 million in damages,
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but it never admitted guilt.
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(unfriendly music)
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- Sleeping in a motel in Brewer, Maine one night,
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I woke up with terrible hay fever and my eyes were burning
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and I looked out at the river
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00:33:40,475 --> 00:33:42,698
and there were great mounds of white foam
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going right down the river,
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00:33:44,178 --> 00:33:45,487
and the next morning I got up
717
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and I said, "My god, what was that happening last night?"
718
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He said, "Oh, that's just the river."
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And I said, "What do you mean?"
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He said, "Well look, every night the paper company
721
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"send this stuff down the river."
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I said, "What are you talking about?"
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And he said, "Don't you understand,
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"that's how we get rid of the effluent
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"from the paper mills."
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Well I knew at that time,
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I'd been in a business,
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I'd sold oil to the paper mills,
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I knew all the owners,
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I'd been in politics,
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I knew the people in the towns,
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I knew not one constituent of the paper mills
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wanted to have the river polluted,
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and yet here the river was being polluted.
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And it was more or less as if we created a doom machine.
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In our search for wealth and and for prosperity
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we created something that's gonna destroy us.
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(sad music)
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- The traders who are involved in the market
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are not guys whose moral fiber
741
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when it comes to environmental conditions
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are gonna be be rattled at all.
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They're seeing dollars and they're making money.
744
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Brokers don't stay away from copper
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because it violates their religious beliefs
746
00:34:49,599 --> 00:34:51,672
or their environmental policies, no.
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You think about it, but (laughs) it's fleeting.
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(laughs) It really is a fleeting moment.
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It's like, "Oh yeah, oh yeah, well,
750
00:35:02,257 --> 00:35:04,119
"the town being polluted down there in Peru,
751
00:35:04,119 --> 00:35:05,807
"but hey, this guy needs to buy some copper,"
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00:35:07,399 --> 00:35:11,018
and getting paid a commission too.
753
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Our information that we receive does not include
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anything about the environmental conditions
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because until the environmental conditions
756
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become a commodity themselves
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or are being traded,
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00:35:20,949 --> 00:35:23,583
then obviously we will not have anything to do with that.
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It doesn't come into our psyche at all.
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It's so far away
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00:35:28,989 --> 00:35:30,873
and you hardly hear anything about it.
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Keep in mind, there are things going on
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right in our backyards for God's sake.
764
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We trade live hogs.
765
00:35:38,578 --> 00:35:39,980
There are so many pigs in the state of Carolina
766
00:35:40,927 --> 00:35:42,349
that it's polluting the rivers,
767
00:35:42,349 --> 00:35:44,399
but how often do you find out about that?
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(weighty music)
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- At Multinational Monitor we put together a list
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of the top corporate criminals of the 1990s.
771
00:35:57,598 --> 00:35:59,300
We went back and looked at all of the criminal fines
772
00:36:00,307 --> 00:36:02,143
that corporations had paid in the decade.
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00:36:04,137 --> 00:36:07,080
Exxon pled guilty in connection to federal criminal charges
774
00:36:07,969 --> 00:36:09,569
with the Valdez spill
775
00:36:09,569 --> 00:36:11,569
and paid $125 million in criminal fines.
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00:36:12,969 --> 00:36:13,890
General Electric was guilty
777
00:36:14,887 --> 00:36:16,489
of defrauding the federal government
778
00:36:16,489 --> 00:36:18,433
and paid $9.5 million in criminal fines.
779
00:36:19,318 --> 00:36:21,746
Chevron was guilty of environmental violations
780
00:36:21,746 --> 00:36:24,035
and paid $6.5 million in fines.
781
00:36:24,035 --> 00:36:26,249
Mitsubishi was guilty of antitrust violation
782
00:36:26,249 --> 00:36:27,619
and paid $1.8 million in fines.
783
00:36:27,619 --> 00:36:30,187
IBM was guilty of illegal exports and paid $8.5 million.
784
00:36:30,187 --> 00:36:33,467
Kodak was guilty of environmental violations and paid
785
00:36:33,467 --> 00:36:35,057
$1 million in fines. Pfizer the drug manufacturer
786
00:36:35,057 --> 00:36:36,649
was guilty of antitrust violations.
787
00:36:36,649 --> 00:36:38,758
Odwalla was guilty. And paid $20 million in fines.
788
00:36:38,758 --> 00:36:40,299
Of Food and Drug Regulatory violations
789
00:36:40,299 --> 00:36:41,907
and paid $1.5 million in fines.
790
00:36:41,907 --> 00:36:42,849
Sears was guilty of financial fraud.
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00:36:42,849 --> 00:36:43,769
Blue Cross Blue Shield of Illinois.
792
00:36:43,769 --> 00:36:46,436
(cross-talking)
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00:36:53,246 --> 00:36:55,915
Roche, guilty of antitrust violation,
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00:36:55,915 --> 00:36:57,593
paid $500 million in criminal fines.
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00:37:03,274 --> 00:37:04,390
- Again and again we have the problem that
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whether you obey the law or not
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00:37:07,377 --> 00:37:08,503
is a matter whether it's cost-effective.
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00:37:09,834 --> 00:37:11,300
If the chance of getting caught and the penalty
799
00:37:12,833 --> 00:37:14,493
are less than it costs to comply,
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people think of it as being just a business decision.
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00:37:20,691 --> 00:37:23,291
- Drawing the metaphor of the early attempts to fly.
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(exploding)
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00:37:24,986 --> 00:37:27,653
(curious music)
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00:37:34,315 --> 00:37:37,183
The man going off of a very high cliff in his airplane,
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00:37:38,475 --> 00:37:39,864
with the wings flapping,
806
00:37:39,864 --> 00:37:41,705
and the guys flapping the wings,
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00:37:41,705 --> 00:37:43,854
and the wind is in his face.
808
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And this poor fool thinks he's flying
809
00:37:45,934 --> 00:37:46,970
but in fact he's in free fall
810
00:37:48,233 --> 00:37:49,730
and he just doesn't know it yet
811
00:37:50,585 --> 00:37:51,803
because the ground is so far away,
812
00:37:53,214 --> 00:37:55,364
but of course the craft is doomed to crash.
813
00:38:00,042 --> 00:38:01,574
That's the way our civilization is.
814
00:38:01,574 --> 00:38:02,890
The very high cliff represents
815
00:38:03,772 --> 00:38:06,322
the virtually unlimited resources we seemed to have
816
00:38:07,383 --> 00:38:08,216
when we began this journey.
817
00:38:09,614 --> 00:38:10,580
The craft isn't flying
818
00:38:11,825 --> 00:38:12,835
because it's not built
819
00:38:12,835 --> 00:38:14,323
according to the laws of aerodynamics,
820
00:38:15,614 --> 00:38:16,783
and it's subject to the law of gravity.
821
00:38:17,945 --> 00:38:19,763
Our civilization is not flying
822
00:38:19,763 --> 00:38:22,613
because it's not built according the laws of aerodynamics
823
00:38:23,625 --> 00:38:24,693
for civilizations that would fly.
824
00:38:26,323 --> 00:38:27,953
And of course the ground is still a long way away,
825
00:38:29,225 --> 00:38:31,625
but some people have seen that ground rushing up
826
00:38:32,963 --> 00:38:34,654
sooner than the rest of us have.
827
00:38:34,654 --> 00:38:35,780
The visionaries have seen it
828
00:38:36,643 --> 00:38:37,603
and have told us it's coming.
829
00:38:40,734 --> 00:38:44,060
There's not a single scientific peer-reviewed paper
830
00:38:45,603 --> 00:38:46,980
published in the last 25 years
831
00:38:48,214 --> 00:38:49,514
that would contradict this
832
00:38:52,145 --> 00:38:52,978
scenario.
833
00:38:54,353 --> 00:38:56,633
Every living system of Earth is in decline.
834
00:38:58,075 --> 00:39:00,633
Every life support system of earth is in decline.
835
00:39:02,305 --> 00:39:04,013
And these together constitute the biosphere,
836
00:39:05,345 --> 00:39:08,344
the biosphere that supports and nurtures all of life,
837
00:39:08,344 --> 00:39:11,294
and not just our life, but perhaps 30 million other species
838
00:39:12,545 --> 00:39:13,570
that share this planet with us.
839
00:39:14,715 --> 00:39:17,632
(thoughtful music)
840
00:39:20,074 --> 00:39:21,303
The typical company of the 20th century,
841
00:39:22,953 --> 00:39:24,903
the extractive, wasteful, abusive linea
842
00:39:26,305 --> 00:39:27,138
and all of its processes,
843
00:39:28,263 --> 00:39:30,153
taking from the earth, making, wasting,
844
00:39:31,265 --> 00:39:32,973
sending its products back to the biosphere,
845
00:39:34,417 --> 00:39:36,084
waste to a landfill.
846
00:39:39,025 --> 00:39:40,425
I myself was amazed to learn
847
00:39:41,745 --> 00:39:43,945
just how much stuff the earth has to produce
848
00:39:45,625 --> 00:39:46,670
through our extraction process
849
00:39:47,815 --> 00:39:49,483
to produce a dollar of revenue for our company.
850
00:39:50,326 --> 00:39:52,017
When I learned, I was flabbergasted.
851
00:39:52,017 --> 00:39:55,100
(machinery whirring)
852
00:40:00,212 --> 00:40:03,340
We're leaving a terrible legacy of poisoning
853
00:40:05,516 --> 00:40:07,266
and diminishment of the environment
854
00:40:09,742 --> 00:40:11,533
for our grandchildren's grandchildren,
855
00:40:13,421 --> 00:40:14,593
generations not yet born.
856
00:40:16,593 --> 00:40:18,330
Some people have called that intergenerational tyranny
857
00:40:19,602 --> 00:40:21,520
a form of taxation without representation
858
00:40:23,164 --> 00:40:25,064
levied by us on generations yet to be.
859
00:40:30,004 --> 00:40:32,254
It's the wrong thing to do.
860
00:40:35,814 --> 00:40:37,882
- One of the questions that comes up periodically
861
00:40:37,882 --> 00:40:39,240
is to what extent could a corporation be
862
00:40:40,564 --> 00:40:42,083
considered to be psychopathic.
863
00:40:43,743 --> 00:40:45,663
And if we look at a corporation as a legal person,
864
00:40:46,644 --> 00:40:47,894
then it may not be that difficult
865
00:40:47,894 --> 00:40:49,673
to actually draw the transition
866
00:40:49,673 --> 00:40:51,745
between psychopathy in the individual
867
00:40:51,745 --> 00:40:53,193
to psychopathy in a corporation.
868
00:40:54,523 --> 00:40:55,884
We can go through the characteristics
869
00:40:55,884 --> 00:40:58,234
that define this particular disorder one by one
870
00:40:59,073 --> 00:41:00,443
and see how they might apply to corporations.
871
00:41:01,404 --> 00:41:03,987
(creepy music)
872
00:41:10,793 --> 00:41:11,626
They would have all the characteristics.
873
00:41:12,664 --> 00:41:15,713
And in fact, in many respects, a corporation of that sort
874
00:41:15,713 --> 00:41:17,742
is as a prototypical psychopath.
875
00:41:17,742 --> 00:41:20,242
(eerie music)
876
00:41:24,374 --> 00:41:25,510
- [Narrator] If the dominant institution of our time
877
00:41:26,422 --> 00:41:27,663
has been created in the image of a psychopath,
878
00:41:29,121 --> 00:41:31,153
who bears the moral responsibility for its actions?
879
00:41:34,681 --> 00:41:35,993
- Can a building have moral opinions?
880
00:41:37,481 --> 00:41:38,823
Can a building have social responsibility?
881
00:41:40,201 --> 00:41:41,593
If a building can't have social responsibility,
882
00:41:42,701 --> 00:41:44,043
what does it mean to say that a corporation can?
883
00:41:45,433 --> 00:41:48,723
A corporation is simply a artificial legal structure,
884
00:41:50,332 --> 00:41:51,263
but the people who are engaged in it,
885
00:41:52,353 --> 00:41:55,103
whether the stockholders, whether the executives in it,
886
00:41:56,132 --> 00:41:56,965
whether the employees,
887
00:41:57,833 --> 00:41:59,033
they all have moral responsibilities.
888
00:42:00,321 --> 00:42:03,728
(simple electronic music)
889
00:42:03,728 --> 00:42:05,073
- It's a fair assumption that every human being,
890
00:42:06,438 --> 00:42:08,613
real human beings, flesh-and-blood ones, not corporations,
891
00:42:09,758 --> 00:42:11,623
but every flesh-and-blood human being is a moral person.
892
00:42:13,616 --> 00:42:14,698
Got the same genes,
893
00:42:14,698 --> 00:42:15,531
we're more or less the same,
894
00:42:16,646 --> 00:42:19,473
but our nature, the nature of humans,
895
00:42:20,756 --> 00:42:21,589
allows all kinds of behavior.
896
00:42:22,897 --> 00:42:25,347
Every one of us under some circumstances could be
897
00:42:27,817 --> 00:42:29,853
a gas chamber attendant and a saint.
898
00:42:33,345 --> 00:42:36,010
- No job in my experience with Goodyear
899
00:42:37,825 --> 00:42:39,963
has been as frustrating as the CEO job,
900
00:42:41,646 --> 00:42:43,340
because even though the perception is
901
00:42:44,196 --> 00:42:45,983
that you have absolute power to do whatever you want,
902
00:42:46,886 --> 00:42:48,623
the reality is you don't have that power.
903
00:42:49,676 --> 00:42:51,676
Sometimes if you had really a free hand,
904
00:42:52,836 --> 00:42:54,530
if you really did what you wanted to do
905
00:42:55,396 --> 00:42:58,713
that suits you personal sorts and your personal priorities,
906
00:43:00,126 --> 00:43:01,724
you'd act differently,
907
00:43:01,724 --> 00:43:02,843
but as a CEO you cannot do that.
908
00:43:04,857 --> 00:43:06,130
Layoffs have become so widespread
909
00:43:07,406 --> 00:43:11,823
that people tend to believe that CEOs make these decisions
910
00:43:12,836 --> 00:43:14,286
without any consideration
911
00:43:14,286 --> 00:43:16,353
to the human implications of their decisions.
912
00:43:17,297 --> 00:43:19,953
It is never a decision that any CEO makes lightly.
913
00:43:21,737 --> 00:43:23,654
It is a tough decision,
914
00:43:25,404 --> 00:43:30,083
but it is the consequence of modern capitalism.
915
00:43:32,196 --> 00:43:33,644
- When you look at a corporation,
916
00:43:33,644 --> 00:43:35,323
just like when you look at a slave owner,
917
00:43:36,785 --> 00:43:37,756
you want to distinguish
918
00:43:37,756 --> 00:43:38,873
between the institution and individual.
919
00:43:40,482 --> 00:43:41,733
So slavery for example,
920
00:43:42,985 --> 00:43:44,263
or other forms of tyranny,
921
00:43:45,276 --> 00:43:46,443
are inherently monsters,
922
00:43:47,674 --> 00:43:48,960
but the individuals participating in them
923
00:43:49,892 --> 00:43:50,983
may be the nicest guys you can imagine,
924
00:43:52,312 --> 00:43:53,362
benevolent, friendly,
925
00:43:54,212 --> 00:43:55,502
nice to the children,
926
00:43:55,502 --> 00:43:56,503
even nice to their slaves,
927
00:43:57,902 --> 00:43:59,243
caring about other people.
928
00:44:00,763 --> 00:44:01,596
As individuals they may be anything,
929
00:44:04,290 --> 00:44:05,920
as in their institutional role they're monsters
930
00:44:06,789 --> 00:44:07,622
because the institution's monsters,
931
00:44:09,018 --> 00:44:11,960
and the same is true here.
932
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:13,360
- My wife and I some years ago
933
00:44:14,298 --> 00:44:15,943
had at our home a demonstration.
934
00:44:18,290 --> 00:44:19,669
25 people arrived.
935
00:44:19,669 --> 00:44:22,480
They hung a big banner on the top of our house
936
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:24,160
saying "murderers."
937
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:26,437
They danced around outside in gas masks and so on.
938
00:45:02,350 --> 00:45:03,843
- As a public demonstration it wasn't very effective.
939
00:45:04,933 --> 00:45:05,984
There were only two,
940
00:45:05,984 --> 00:45:07,333
this is a very rural area,
941
00:45:07,333 --> 00:45:08,354
two people and a dog,
942
00:45:08,354 --> 00:45:09,424
and it's not a very big house,
943
00:45:09,424 --> 00:45:10,257
which I think rather surprised them.
944
00:45:11,853 --> 00:45:12,740
But then we sat down and talked to them
945
00:45:14,045 --> 00:45:15,173
for a couple of hours
946
00:45:15,173 --> 00:45:16,723
and we gave them tea and coffee
947
00:45:17,685 --> 00:45:18,518
and they had lunch on our lawn.
948
00:45:35,632 --> 00:45:36,923
- And after about 20 minutes they said,
949
00:45:38,085 --> 00:45:40,525
"Well the problem's not you, it's Shell."
950
00:45:40,525 --> 00:45:41,761
I said, "Oh, wait a minute.
951
00:45:41,761 --> 00:45:43,253
"Let's talk about what is Shell.
952
00:45:44,630 --> 00:45:45,463
"It's made up of people like me."
953
00:45:46,454 --> 00:45:47,860
In the end what we found in that discussion
954
00:45:48,792 --> 00:45:49,663
was all the things that they were worried about,
955
00:45:50,504 --> 00:45:52,040
I was worried about as well,
956
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:52,873
climate,
957
00:45:54,061 --> 00:45:55,493
oppressive regimes, human rights.
958
00:45:56,650 --> 00:45:57,880
The big difference between us was
959
00:45:59,341 --> 00:46:01,563
I feel that I actually can make a contribution to this.
960
00:46:02,430 --> 00:46:03,710
These people were frustrated
961
00:46:03,710 --> 00:46:05,323
because they felt they had nothing to do.
962
00:46:06,702 --> 00:46:08,353
- So an individual CEO, let's say,
963
00:46:09,590 --> 00:46:11,490
may really care about the environment,
964
00:46:12,571 --> 00:46:14,463
and in fact since they have such extraordinary resources,
965
00:46:15,491 --> 00:46:17,270
they can even devote some of their resources to that
966
00:46:18,119 --> 00:46:20,019
without violating their responsibility
967
00:46:22,011 --> 00:46:22,844
to be totally inhuman.
968
00:46:24,753 --> 00:46:25,742
- [Narrator] Which is why
969
00:46:25,742 --> 00:46:27,473
as the Moody-Stuarts served tea to protesters,
970
00:46:28,742 --> 00:46:30,963
Shell Nigeria can flare unrivaled amounts of gas,
971
00:46:32,201 --> 00:46:34,054
making it one of the world's single worst
972
00:46:34,054 --> 00:46:34,887
sources of pollution.
973
00:46:37,003 --> 00:46:38,270
And all the professed concerns about the environment
974
00:46:39,713 --> 00:46:42,040
do not spare Ken Saro-Wiwa and eight other activists
975
00:46:43,173 --> 00:46:44,513
from being hanged
976
00:46:44,513 --> 00:46:45,910
for opposing Shell's environmental practices
977
00:46:47,163 --> 00:46:48,342
in the Niger Delta.
978
00:46:48,342 --> 00:46:50,925
(somber music)
979
00:46:57,479 --> 00:46:58,606
- The corporation is not a person.
980
00:46:58,606 --> 00:46:59,641
It doesn't think.
981
00:46:59,641 --> 00:47:00,744
People in it think.
982
00:47:00,744 --> 00:47:02,140
And for them it is legitimate
983
00:47:03,144 --> 00:47:04,100
to create Terminator technology
984
00:47:05,744 --> 00:47:08,413
so that farmers are not able to save their seeds,
985
00:47:10,565 --> 00:47:13,823
seeds that will destroy themselves through a suicide gene,
986
00:47:15,902 --> 00:47:18,852
seeds that are designed to only produce crop in one season.
987
00:47:21,064 --> 00:47:22,483
You really need to have a brutal mind.
988
00:47:23,725 --> 00:47:24,610
It's a war against evolution
989
00:47:25,765 --> 00:47:26,953
to even think in those terms,
990
00:47:28,194 --> 00:47:29,664
but quite clearly,
991
00:47:29,664 --> 00:47:31,703
profits are so much higher in their minds.
992
00:47:33,752 --> 00:47:35,802
- [Narrator] The profit motive which drove Fudsy
993
00:47:35,802 --> 00:47:37,670
to accomplish so much may bring out the evil
994
00:47:40,089 --> 00:47:42,550
as well as the good.
995
00:47:42,550 --> 00:47:43,383
(phones ringing)
996
00:47:43,383 --> 00:47:44,216
- [Both Men] Hello?
997
00:47:47,998 --> 00:47:48,990
- My work spans all industry sectors
998
00:47:49,900 --> 00:47:53,363
I virtually have worked for I'd say 25% of the Fortune 500.
999
00:47:56,278 --> 00:47:57,953
I've posed as an investment banker.
1000
00:47:58,790 --> 00:48:00,763
I've posed as a venture capitalist.
1001
00:48:02,958 --> 00:48:04,358
I set up front companies
1002
00:48:04,358 --> 00:48:07,933
that are executive recruiting firms.
1003
00:48:10,138 --> 00:48:11,888
Essentially I'm a spy
1004
00:48:14,278 --> 00:48:15,340
I'll locate your employees
1005
00:48:16,516 --> 00:48:17,766
and I will tell them that
1006
00:48:18,718 --> 00:48:20,060
I'm calling from Acme Recruiting Agency
1007
00:48:20,958 --> 00:48:22,841
and that I've got a job
1008
00:48:22,841 --> 00:48:25,710
that pays them considerably more than what they're paying,
1009
00:48:25,710 --> 00:48:27,283
would they mind meeting me for an interview.
1010
00:48:28,609 --> 00:48:30,721
And when the executive shows up,
1011
00:48:30,721 --> 00:48:32,520
what he doesn't realize is I'm actually debriefing him
1012
00:48:33,681 --> 00:48:34,514
on behalf of a competitor
1013
00:48:35,409 --> 00:48:36,658
and that there is no job,
1014
00:48:36,658 --> 00:48:39,569
and that the office that he's at has been rented,
1015
00:48:39,569 --> 00:48:42,423
and the picture on my desk of my family is a phony,
1016
00:48:43,750 --> 00:48:46,010
and it's all just a big elaborate ruse
1017
00:48:47,150 --> 00:48:50,763
to glean competitive information from from him.
1018
00:48:52,977 --> 00:48:54,894
I don't feel any guilt.
1019
00:48:55,782 --> 00:48:56,615
You know what?
1020
00:48:56,615 --> 00:48:59,165
You have to expect that guys like me are out there.
1021
00:49:03,852 --> 00:49:05,150
We're predators.
1022
00:49:05,150 --> 00:49:07,650
(scary music)
1023
00:49:12,329 --> 00:49:13,550
It's about competition.
1024
00:49:13,550 --> 00:49:14,848
It's about market share.
1025
00:49:14,848 --> 00:49:16,870
It's about being aggressive.
1026
00:49:16,870 --> 00:49:17,703
It's about shareholder value.
1027
00:49:19,020 --> 00:49:21,841
What is your stock at today?
1028
00:49:21,841 --> 00:49:23,174
If you're a CEO,
1029
00:49:26,169 --> 00:49:28,210
do you think your shareholders really care
1030
00:49:29,287 --> 00:49:30,120
whether you're Billy Buttercup or not?
1031
00:49:31,801 --> 00:49:34,601
Do you think that they would prefer you to be a nice guy
1032
00:49:37,881 --> 00:49:39,470
over having money in their pocket?
1033
00:49:39,470 --> 00:49:41,260
I don't think so.
1034
00:49:41,260 --> 00:49:42,727
I think people want money.
1035
00:49:42,727 --> 00:49:44,441
That's the bottom line.
1036
00:49:44,441 --> 00:49:45,630
- The fact that most of these companies
1037
00:49:45,630 --> 00:49:47,480
are run by white men, white rich men,
1038
00:49:49,230 --> 00:49:50,950
means that they are out of touch
1039
00:49:50,950 --> 00:49:51,953
with what the majority of the world is,
1040
00:49:52,921 --> 00:49:54,570
because the majority of this planet
1041
00:49:54,570 --> 00:49:55,523
are not a bunch of rich white guys.
1042
00:49:57,110 --> 00:49:58,723
They're people of other colors, they're the majority,
1043
00:49:59,860 --> 00:50:00,693
women are the majority,
1044
00:50:01,629 --> 00:50:03,079
and the poor and working poor
1045
00:50:04,140 --> 00:50:05,343
make up the majority of this planet.
1046
00:50:06,530 --> 00:50:08,800
So the decisions that they make come from
1047
00:50:11,332 --> 00:50:13,782
not the reality that exists throughout the world.
1048
00:50:15,070 --> 00:50:16,509
How much is enough?
1049
00:50:16,509 --> 00:50:17,819
How much is enough?
1050
00:50:17,819 --> 00:50:19,410
If you are a billionaire,
1051
00:50:19,410 --> 00:50:20,583
would it be okay just to be a half a billionaire?
1052
00:50:21,541 --> 00:50:22,390
Wouldn't it be okay for your company
1053
00:50:23,251 --> 00:50:25,004
to make a little less money if it meant...
1054
00:50:25,004 --> 00:50:26,450
When I bought those two airplane tickets
1055
00:50:27,692 --> 00:50:29,193
for Phil Knight and myself to fly to Indonesia,
1056
00:50:30,875 --> 00:50:34,107
I was prepared for him to say, "Okay, let's go."
1057
00:50:34,107 --> 00:50:34,940
Sunday?
1058
00:50:34,940 --> 00:50:36,047
- Oh no, (laughs) not a chance.
1059
00:50:36,047 --> 00:50:37,025
- Huh? - Not a chance.
1060
00:50:37,025 --> 00:50:37,996
- No? - No, but--
1061
00:50:37,996 --> 00:50:38,885
- They're transferable.
1062
00:50:38,885 --> 00:50:40,103
I can change it to another day.
1063
00:50:40,103 --> 00:50:41,153
And call me on it, call my bluff,
1064
00:50:42,327 --> 00:50:43,306
he's a smart guy,
1065
00:50:43,306 --> 00:50:44,877
he's not stupid,
1066
00:50:44,877 --> 00:50:45,710
and so I thought, "Okay, get ready for this,"
1067
00:50:46,749 --> 00:50:48,410
especially because I bought first-class tickets
1068
00:50:49,586 --> 00:50:51,123
so it'd be a comfortable ride at least.
1069
00:50:54,597 --> 00:50:55,883
And of course he tells me then on camera.
1070
00:50:57,127 --> 00:50:58,465
- [Phil] I've never been to Indonesia.
1071
00:50:58,465 --> 00:51:00,378
- (laughs) I'm taken aback by this.
1072
00:51:00,378 --> 00:51:02,045
I can't believe that the guy is the head of the company,
1073
00:51:02,045 --> 00:51:04,083
has never walked through his own factories.
1074
00:51:04,986 --> 00:51:05,906
Oh, well you've gotta go.
1075
00:51:05,906 --> 00:51:07,713
- No, I can't go between now and the rest of this year.
1076
00:51:08,818 --> 00:51:09,670
- When we were done filming he calls me up
1077
00:51:11,567 --> 00:51:12,400
a couple weeks later and he goes,
1078
00:51:13,698 --> 00:51:14,893
"I may have a chance to go there with you,
1079
00:51:16,797 --> 00:51:18,836
"to the factories.
1080
00:51:18,836 --> 00:51:19,790
"I'm going to the Australian Open
1081
00:51:21,818 --> 00:51:22,651
"to watch some tennis,
1082
00:51:24,247 --> 00:51:26,823
"and (laughs) maybe I can get up there,
1083
00:51:28,904 --> 00:51:29,737
"or at least you can go there.
1084
00:51:31,806 --> 00:51:32,827
"Would you like to go to the Australian Open?"
1085
00:51:33,698 --> 00:51:35,781
(laughs)
1086
00:51:37,018 --> 00:51:38,660
- For 21 years I never gave a thought
1087
00:51:39,896 --> 00:51:42,846
to what we were taking from the earth or doing to the earth
1088
00:51:44,386 --> 00:51:45,219
in the making of our products,
1089
00:51:46,258 --> 00:51:48,190
and then in the summer of 1994
1090
00:51:49,906 --> 00:51:51,350
we began to hear questions from our customers
1091
00:51:52,305 --> 00:51:53,607
we've never heard before,
1092
00:51:53,607 --> 00:51:54,697
"What's your company doing for the environment?"
1093
00:51:56,578 --> 00:51:58,167
And we didn't have answers.
1094
00:51:58,167 --> 00:51:59,383
The real answer was not very much,
1095
00:52:00,776 --> 00:52:02,383
and it really disturbed many of our people,
1096
00:52:03,677 --> 00:52:04,613
not me so much as them.
1097
00:52:05,933 --> 00:52:07,410
And a group in our research department
1098
00:52:09,266 --> 00:52:10,460
decided to convene a task force
1099
00:52:11,327 --> 00:52:12,910
and bring people from our businesses around the world
1100
00:52:14,237 --> 00:52:15,378
to come together to assess
1101
00:52:15,378 --> 00:52:17,123
our company's worldwide environmental position,
1102
00:52:18,346 --> 00:52:20,013
to begin to frame answers for those customers.
1103
00:52:21,738 --> 00:52:23,210
They asked me if I would come and speak to that group
1104
00:52:24,426 --> 00:52:25,330
and give them a kickoff speech
1105
00:52:26,237 --> 00:52:28,503
to launch this new task force with an environmental vision,
1106
00:52:30,738 --> 00:52:32,533
and I didn't have an environmental vision.
1107
00:52:33,956 --> 00:52:37,397
I did not want to make that speech. (laughs)
1108
00:52:37,397 --> 00:52:38,800
And at sort of the propitious moment
1109
00:52:40,237 --> 00:52:41,654
this book landed on my desk.
1110
00:52:41,654 --> 00:52:44,154
It was Paul Hawken's book The Ecology of Commerce.
1111
00:52:46,334 --> 00:52:47,983
And I began to read The Ecology of Commerce,
1112
00:52:48,831 --> 00:52:49,923
really desperate for inspiration,
1113
00:52:50,883 --> 00:52:52,910
and very quickly into that book
1114
00:52:54,302 --> 00:52:56,277
I found the phrase "the death of birth."
1115
00:52:59,142 --> 00:53:01,713
It was E.O Wilson's expression for species extinction,
1116
00:53:02,553 --> 00:53:03,621
"the death of birth,"
1117
00:53:03,621 --> 00:53:05,933
and it was a point of a spear into my chest.
1118
00:53:07,731 --> 00:53:09,163
And I read on and the spear went deeper,
1119
00:53:10,231 --> 00:53:12,062
and it became an epiphanal experience,
1120
00:53:12,062 --> 00:53:14,203
a total change of mindset for myself,
1121
00:53:16,113 --> 00:53:17,363
and a change of paradigm.
1122
00:53:18,430 --> 00:53:21,013
(hushed music)
1123
00:53:22,236 --> 00:53:23,683
Can any product be made sustainably?
1124
00:53:24,550 --> 00:53:25,583
Well, not any and every product.
1125
00:53:27,372 --> 00:53:29,063
Can you make landmines sustainably?
1126
00:53:30,342 --> 00:53:32,913
Well, I don't think so.
1127
00:53:32,913 --> 00:53:34,400
There's a more fundamental question than that
1128
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:37,033
about landmines.
1129
00:53:37,033 --> 00:53:38,163
Some products ought not be made at all.
1130
00:53:40,062 --> 00:53:42,083
Unless we can make carpets sustainably,
1131
00:53:44,273 --> 00:53:46,673
perhaps we don't have a place in a sustainable world.
1132
00:53:47,892 --> 00:53:51,003
but neither does anybody else making products unsustainably.
1133
00:53:53,841 --> 00:53:55,291
One day early in this journey
1134
00:53:56,172 --> 00:53:59,480
it dawned on me that the way I've been running Interface
1135
00:54:01,321 --> 00:54:02,154
is the way of the plunderer,
1136
00:54:04,052 --> 00:54:04,923
plundering something that's not mine,
1137
00:54:06,451 --> 00:54:08,951
something that belongs to every creature on earth.
1138
00:54:10,571 --> 00:54:12,103
And I said to myself, "My goodness,
1139
00:54:13,011 --> 00:54:15,011
"the day must come when this is illegal,
1140
00:54:16,593 --> 00:54:18,193
"when plundering is not allowed.
1141
00:54:19,801 --> 00:54:21,051
"It must come."
1142
00:54:22,460 --> 00:54:24,452
I said to myself, "My goodness,
1143
00:54:24,452 --> 00:54:26,913
"someday people like me will end up in jail."
1144
00:54:26,913 --> 00:54:30,080
(contemplative music)
1145
00:54:36,329 --> 00:54:37,980
- I gotta be honest with you.
1146
00:54:37,980 --> 00:54:39,230
When the September 11 situation happened
1147
00:54:41,276 --> 00:54:43,527
I didn't know that the, (laughs)
1148
00:54:43,527 --> 00:54:44,735
and I must say
1149
00:54:44,735 --> 00:54:46,235
and I want to say this because
1150
00:54:49,014 --> 00:54:50,455
I don't want to take it lightly,
1151
00:54:50,455 --> 00:54:51,753
it's not a light situation,
1152
00:54:51,753 --> 00:54:53,083
it's a devastating act,
1153
00:54:54,796 --> 00:54:56,933
it was really a bad thing,
1154
00:54:58,225 --> 00:54:59,443
one of the worst things I've seen in my lifetime,
1155
00:55:01,464 --> 00:55:03,613
but I will tell you and every trader will tell you,
1156
00:55:04,716 --> 00:55:06,585
who was not in that building
1157
00:55:06,585 --> 00:55:09,153
and who was buying gold and who owned gold and silver,
1158
00:55:10,156 --> 00:55:11,926
that when it happened
1159
00:55:11,926 --> 00:55:12,947
the first thing you thought about was,
1160
00:55:14,035 --> 00:55:14,868
"Well how much is gold up?"
1161
00:55:16,647 --> 00:55:18,295
The first thing that came to mind was,
1162
00:55:18,295 --> 00:55:19,657
"My god, gold must be exploding."
1163
00:55:21,554 --> 00:55:23,093
Fortunately for us, all our clients were in gold,
1164
00:55:25,156 --> 00:55:26,214
so when it went up,
1165
00:55:26,214 --> 00:55:28,465
they all doubled their money!
1166
00:55:28,465 --> 00:55:31,314
Everybody doubled their money.
1167
00:55:31,314 --> 00:55:32,147
It was a blessing in disguise.
1168
00:55:33,705 --> 00:55:34,705
Devastating,
1169
00:55:36,012 --> 00:55:37,463
crushing,
1170
00:55:37,463 --> 00:55:39,095
heart-shattering,
1171
00:55:39,095 --> 00:55:39,928
but on a financial sense,
1172
00:55:40,865 --> 00:55:41,698
for my clients that were in the market,
1173
00:55:42,625 --> 00:55:43,458
they all made money.
1174
00:55:43,458 --> 00:55:45,063
Now I wasn't looking for this type of help,
1175
00:55:49,735 --> 00:55:50,863
but it happened.
1176
00:55:50,863 --> 00:55:54,020
When the U.S. bombed Iraq back in 1991
1177
00:55:55,904 --> 00:55:57,700
the price of oil went from $13
1178
00:55:59,055 --> 00:56:00,653
to $40 a barrel for Christ's sake.
1179
00:56:02,825 --> 00:56:04,114
Now we couldn't wait for the bomb
1180
00:56:04,114 --> 00:56:06,276
to start raining down on Saddam Hussein.
1181
00:56:06,276 --> 00:56:08,943
(serious music)
1182
00:56:11,944 --> 00:56:13,105
We were all excited.
1183
00:56:13,105 --> 00:56:14,693
We wanted Saddam to really create problems,
1184
00:56:15,647 --> 00:56:17,076
do whatever you have to do,
1185
00:56:17,076 --> 00:56:17,909
set fire to some more oil wells,
1186
00:56:18,745 --> 00:56:20,695
because the price is gonna go higher.
1187
00:56:20,695 --> 00:56:22,156
Every broker was chanting that.
1188
00:56:22,156 --> 00:56:23,785
There was not a broker that I know of
1189
00:56:23,785 --> 00:56:24,996
that wasn't excited about that.
1190
00:56:24,996 --> 00:56:27,579
(somber music)
1191
00:56:28,527 --> 00:56:29,366
This was a disaster.
1192
00:56:29,366 --> 00:56:31,413
This was something that was a catastrophe happening,
1193
00:56:32,257 --> 00:56:33,424
bombing, wars.
1194
00:56:35,916 --> 00:56:37,393
In devastation there is opportunity.
1195
00:56:40,236 --> 00:56:43,345
(aching music)
1196
00:56:43,345 --> 00:56:44,203
- [Narrator] The pursuit of profit is an old story,
1197
00:56:45,396 --> 00:56:46,900
but there was a time when many things were regarded
1198
00:56:47,804 --> 00:56:50,190
either as too sacred or too essential for the public good
1199
00:56:51,505 --> 00:56:52,783
to be considered business opportunities.
1200
00:56:54,533 --> 00:56:56,643
They were protected by tradition and public regulation.
1201
00:56:58,895 --> 00:57:01,562
(weighty music)
1202
00:57:05,575 --> 00:57:07,236
- We can really begin to take a look
1203
00:57:07,236 --> 00:57:09,508
at the emergence of the modern age
1204
00:57:09,508 --> 00:57:12,279
with the enclosure movements of the Great European Commons
1205
00:57:12,279 --> 00:57:14,079
in the 14th, 15th, and 16th century.
1206
00:57:15,308 --> 00:57:17,508
Medieval life was a collectively lived life.
1207
00:57:18,868 --> 00:57:20,729
It was a brutish, nasty affair,
1208
00:57:20,729 --> 00:57:22,383
but there was a collective responsibility.
1209
00:57:23,628 --> 00:57:24,937
People belong to the land.
1210
00:57:24,937 --> 00:57:25,813
The land did not belong to people,
1211
00:57:26,868 --> 00:57:27,783
and in this European world,
1212
00:57:28,969 --> 00:57:30,810
people farmed the land in a collective way
1213
00:57:31,649 --> 00:57:33,097
because they saw it as a commons.
1214
00:57:33,097 --> 00:57:34,318
It belonged to God,
1215
00:57:34,318 --> 00:57:37,409
and then it was administered by the church, the aristocracy,
1216
00:57:37,409 --> 00:57:40,733
and then the local manors as stewards of God's creation.
1217
00:57:43,409 --> 00:57:44,577
Beginning with Tudor England
1218
00:57:44,577 --> 00:57:46,799
we began to see a phenomenon emerge,
1219
00:57:46,799 --> 00:57:48,270
and that is the enclosure of the great commons
1220
00:57:49,237 --> 00:57:50,623
by parliamentary acts in England and then in Europe.
1221
00:57:51,879 --> 00:57:53,457
And so first we began to take
1222
00:57:53,457 --> 00:57:54,320
the great land masses of the world
1223
00:57:55,209 --> 00:57:56,042
which were commons and shared,
1224
00:57:57,016 --> 00:57:58,123
and we reduced those to private property.
1225
00:57:59,436 --> 00:58:00,847
Then we went after the oceans,
1226
00:58:00,847 --> 00:58:02,087
the great oceanic commons,
1227
00:58:02,087 --> 00:58:03,390
and we created laws and regulations
1228
00:58:04,687 --> 00:58:05,520
that would allow countries to claim
1229
00:58:06,476 --> 00:58:08,650
a certain amount of water outside their coastal limits
1230
00:58:09,527 --> 00:58:10,996
for exploitation.
1231
00:58:10,996 --> 00:58:11,940
In this century we went after the air
1232
00:58:12,926 --> 00:58:13,759
and we divided it into air corridors
1233
00:58:14,596 --> 00:58:15,767
that could be bought and sold
1234
00:58:15,767 --> 00:58:17,443
for commercial traffic for airplanes,
1235
00:58:18,615 --> 00:58:19,993
and then of course the rest is history.
1236
00:58:21,505 --> 00:58:24,172
(ominous music)
1237
00:58:29,305 --> 00:58:31,764
(people applauding)
1238
00:58:31,764 --> 00:58:34,123
- With deregulation, privatization, free trade,
1239
00:58:35,575 --> 00:58:38,933
what we're seeing is yet another enclosure,
1240
00:58:40,265 --> 00:58:42,615
and if you like, private taking of the commons.
1241
00:58:44,857 --> 00:58:45,850
One of the things I find very interesting
1242
00:58:46,705 --> 00:58:48,164
in our current debates
1243
00:58:48,164 --> 00:58:50,064
is this concept of who creates wealth,
1244
00:58:51,575 --> 00:58:54,275
that wealth is only created when it's owned privately.
1245
00:58:56,036 --> 00:58:58,363
What would you call clean water, fresh air,
1246
00:58:59,636 --> 00:59:00,815
a safe environment?
1247
00:59:00,815 --> 00:59:01,953
Are they not a form of wealth?
1248
00:59:02,996 --> 00:59:04,040
And why does it only become wealth
1249
00:59:05,095 --> 00:59:07,045
when some entity puts a fence around it
1250
00:59:08,124 --> 00:59:09,143
and declares it private property?
1251
00:59:10,204 --> 00:59:12,356
Well, that's not wealth creation.
1252
00:59:12,356 --> 00:59:13,189
That's wealth usurption.
1253
00:59:16,044 --> 00:59:17,460
- Over the centuries we have put more and more things
1254
00:59:18,396 --> 00:59:19,668
in that public realm,
1255
00:59:19,668 --> 00:59:21,108
and lately, just lately,
1256
00:59:21,108 --> 00:59:22,203
in the last let's say three or four decades,
1257
00:59:23,097 --> 00:59:24,628
started pulling them out again.
1258
00:59:24,628 --> 00:59:25,613
So firefighters, for instance.
1259
00:59:27,129 --> 00:59:27,967
(coughing)
1260
00:59:27,967 --> 00:59:28,993
- [Narrator] This man needs the fire department.
1261
00:59:30,725 --> 00:59:32,783
- [Matt] Firefighters started as private companies.
1262
00:59:34,255 --> 00:59:35,905
- [Narrator] Yes, and lots of other people
1263
00:59:35,905 --> 00:59:36,773
need the fire department too.
1264
00:59:38,384 --> 00:59:40,007
- And if you didn't have the medallion
1265
00:59:40,007 --> 00:59:42,207
of a given firefighter brigade on your house
1266
00:59:43,236 --> 00:59:44,375
and it was on fire,
1267
00:59:44,375 --> 00:59:46,213
then those firefighters would just ride on by,
1268
00:59:47,129 --> 00:59:48,063
because you didn't have a deal.
1269
00:59:49,451 --> 00:59:51,501
Well, we gradually evolved a public trust
1270
00:59:52,704 --> 00:59:55,504
for the provision of safety on that very specific level.
1271
00:59:58,333 --> 00:59:59,663
This is important.
1272
00:59:59,663 --> 01:00:00,496
We should not go back from that
1273
01:00:01,573 --> 01:00:03,253
and start saying, "Well,
1274
01:00:03,253 --> 01:00:04,573
"why don't we put that back in the market
1275
01:00:04,573 --> 01:00:05,434
"and see what that does.
1276
01:00:05,434 --> 01:00:06,852
"Maybe it'll make it more efficient."
1277
01:00:06,852 --> 01:00:09,269
(slow music)
1278
01:00:16,354 --> 01:00:17,187
- The privatization does not mean
1279
01:00:18,325 --> 01:00:20,605
you take a public institution
1280
01:00:20,605 --> 01:00:21,438
and give it to some nice person.
1281
01:00:25,088 --> 01:00:26,020
It means you take a public institution
1282
01:00:26,885 --> 01:00:28,043
and give it to an unaccountable tyranny.
1283
01:00:29,003 --> 01:00:31,753
(troubled music)
1284
01:00:34,194 --> 01:00:36,033
Public institutions have many side benefits.
1285
01:00:37,871 --> 01:00:39,183
For one thing they may purposely run at a loss.
1286
01:00:41,042 --> 01:00:41,875
They're not out for profit.
1287
01:00:42,762 --> 01:00:43,820
They may purposely run at a loss
1288
01:00:44,730 --> 01:00:46,202
because of the side benefits.
1289
01:00:46,202 --> 01:00:49,102
So for example, if a public steel industry runs at a loss,
1290
01:00:50,602 --> 01:00:52,793
it's providing cheap steel to other industries.
1291
01:00:53,842 --> 01:00:56,009
Maybe that's a good thing.
1292
01:00:57,209 --> 01:00:59,023
Public institutions can have a counter-cyclic property,
1293
01:01:00,242 --> 01:01:02,592
so that means that they can maintain employment
1294
01:01:03,461 --> 01:01:04,294
in periods of recession,
1295
01:01:05,900 --> 01:01:07,282
which increases demand,
1296
01:01:07,282 --> 01:01:08,307
which helps you get out of recession.
1297
01:01:09,740 --> 01:01:11,042
A private company can't do that.
1298
01:01:11,042 --> 01:01:13,283
The recession, throw out the workforce, so you make money.
1299
01:01:15,482 --> 01:01:17,110
- There are those who intend that one day
1300
01:01:18,019 --> 01:01:19,503
everything will be owned by somebody.
1301
01:01:20,672 --> 01:01:23,202
And we're not just talking goods here.
1302
01:01:23,202 --> 01:01:25,352
We're talking human rights, human services,
1303
01:01:26,442 --> 01:01:27,663
essential services for life,
1304
01:01:28,562 --> 01:01:29,523
education, public health,
1305
01:01:30,661 --> 01:01:32,511
social assistance, pensions, housing.
1306
01:01:35,029 --> 01:01:35,862
We're also talking about
1307
01:01:39,377 --> 01:01:40,869
the survival of the planet,
1308
01:01:40,869 --> 01:01:43,340
the areas that we believe must be maintained
1309
01:01:44,578 --> 01:01:46,060
in the commons or under common control
1310
01:01:47,072 --> 01:01:47,905
or we will collectively die,
1311
01:01:49,210 --> 01:01:50,642
water and air.
1312
01:01:50,642 --> 01:01:53,225
(veiled music)
1313
01:01:54,712 --> 01:01:56,273
- Even in the case of air there's been some progress.
1314
01:01:58,992 --> 01:02:00,381
And here the idea is to say,
1315
01:02:00,381 --> 01:02:02,713
"Look, we can't avoid the dumping of carbon dioxide.
1316
01:02:03,552 --> 01:02:04,973
"We can't avoid the dumping of sulphur oxides.
1317
01:02:05,850 --> 01:02:08,178
"At least we can't at the moment afford to stop doing that."
1318
01:02:08,178 --> 01:02:10,795
So we're dumping a certain amount of stuff
1319
01:02:10,795 --> 01:02:11,628
into the environment,
1320
01:02:11,628 --> 01:02:13,565
so we're going to say
1321
01:02:13,565 --> 01:02:16,315
with the current tonnage of sulphur oxides for example,
1322
01:02:17,595 --> 01:02:18,428
we will say that is the limit
1323
01:02:20,163 --> 01:02:22,213
and we'll create permits for that amount,
1324
01:02:23,736 --> 01:02:24,695
we'd give them to the people
1325
01:02:24,695 --> 01:02:26,416
who've been doing the polluting,
1326
01:02:26,416 --> 01:02:27,323
and now we will permit them to be traded.
1327
01:02:29,755 --> 01:02:31,290
And so now there's a price attached
1328
01:02:32,464 --> 01:02:33,297
to polluting the environment.
1329
01:02:35,835 --> 01:02:36,668
Now wouldn't it be marvelous
1330
01:02:36,668 --> 01:02:37,723
if we had one of those prices for everything?
1331
01:02:39,504 --> 01:02:40,955
- [Interviewer] It sounds like you're advocating
1332
01:02:40,955 --> 01:02:43,263
private ownership of every square inch of the planet.
1333
01:02:44,363 --> 01:02:45,263
- Absolutely.
1334
01:02:45,263 --> 01:02:47,983
- [Interviewer] Every cubic foot of air, water.
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- It sounds outlandish to say
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we want to have the whole universe,
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the whole of the earth owned.
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That doesn't mean I want to have
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Joe Bloggs owning this square foot,
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but it means that the interests
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that are involved in that stream
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are owned
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by some group or by some people
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who have an interest in maintaining it.
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And that is not such a loony idea.
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It's in fact the solution to a lot of these problems.
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(perplexing music)
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(people chattering)
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- [Kid] I tried to throw it on there! (laughs)
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- [Narrator] Imagine a world in which
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one of the things owned by a corporation
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was the song Happy Birthday.
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In fact, an AOL Time Warner subsidiary holds the copyright.
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In the past, it is demanded over $10,000
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to allow you to hear anyone
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sing this popular song in a film.
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We didn't pay.
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(air blowing)
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We prefer to use the money
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to fly our crew to Boston and Los Angeles
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to bring you the following story.
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- [Ad Announcer] Five, four, three, two, one!
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Off into space!
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Man, that takes real teamwork!
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And here's a team of junior spacemen
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with an out-of-this-world breakfast!
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- [Susan] Comparing the marketing of yesteryear
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to the marketing of today
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is like comparing a BB gun to a smart bomb.
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- [Ad Announcer] Refreshing V8 juice!
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- It's not the same as when I was a kid
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or even when the people
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who are young adults today were kids.
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(brave music)
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It's much more sophisticated and it's much more pervasive.
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It's not that products themselves are bad or good.
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It's the notion of manipulating children
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into buying the products.
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In 1998, Western International Media,
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Century City, and Lieberman Research Worldwide
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conducted a study on nagging.
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- We asked parents to keep a diary for three weeks
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and to record every time, you could imagine,
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every time their child nagged them for a product.
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We asked them to record when, where, and why.
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(curious music)
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- This study was not to help parents cope with nagging.
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It was to help corporations
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help children nag for their products more effectively.
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- Anywhere from 20% to 40% of purchases
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would not have occurred
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unless the child had nagged their parents.
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That is we found, for example,
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a quarter of all visits to theme parks
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wouldn't have occurred unless a child nagged the parents.
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Four out of 10 visits to places like Chuck E. Cheese
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would not have occurred.
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Any parent would understand that.
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When I think of Chuck E. Cheese,
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oh my goodness, it's noise.
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โช Cause we're going to Chuck E. Cheese's โช
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- And there's so many kids.
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Why would I want to spend two hours there?
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But if the child nags enough, you're gonna go.
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We saw the same thing with movies,
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with home video, with fast food.
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We do have to break through this barrier
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where they do tell us
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or they say they don't like it when their kids nag.
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Well that's just a general attitude that they possess.
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It doesn't mean that they necessarily act on a product
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100% of the time.
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You can manipulate consumers
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into wanting and therefore buying your products.
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It's a game.
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- Children are not little adults.
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Their minds aren't developed.
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And what's happening is that marketers
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are playing to their developmental vulnerabilities.
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(perplexed music)
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The advertising that children are exposed to today
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is honed by psychologists,
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it's enhanced by media technology
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that nobody ever thought was possible.
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- The more insight you have about the consumer,
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the more creative you'll be
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in your communication strategies.
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So if that takes a psychologist,
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yeah, we want one of those on staff.
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- I'm not saying that it's wrong
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to make things for children.
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I also think it's important to distinguish
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between psychologists who work on products for children,
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who help toy corporations make toys
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that are developmentally appropriate.
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I think that's great.
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That's different from selling the toys
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directly to the children.
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- Initiative is huge.
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I think in the U.S.
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we place about $12 billion of media time.
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So we'll put it on TV,
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we'll put it in print,
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we'll put it up in outdoor,
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we'll buy radio time.
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01:07:47,081 --> 01:07:49,931
So we're the biggest buyers of advertising time and space
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in the U.S. and in the world.
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- One family cannot combat an industry
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that spends $12 billion a year trying to get their children.
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They can't do it.
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- They are tomorrow's adult consumers,
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so start talking with them now,
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build that relationship when they're younger,
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and you've got them as an adult.
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Somebody asked me, "Lucy, is that ethical?
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"You're essentially manipulating these children."
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01:08:19,899 --> 01:08:21,899
Well, yeah, is it ethical, I don't know,
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but our role at Initiative is to move products,
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and if we know you move products
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with a certain creative execution
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placed in a certain type of media vehicle,
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then we've done our job.
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โช Pull it push it grab it bump it save it race it โช
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- Every institution provides
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the people who are members of it
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with a social role to occupy,
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and typically institutions that are vibrant
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and have a lot of power
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will specify that role
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in some sense as a list of virtues.
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It's true for churches, for schools,
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for any institution that has power over people
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and shapes them.
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- [Everyone] One nation.
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- The corporation likewise,
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it provides us with a list of virtues,
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a kind of social role,
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which is the good consumer.
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- [Narrator] Like the waters of a mighty ocean,
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people also represent a tremendous force,
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the understanding of which is of greatest importance
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to the American way of life.
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This force is known as consumer power.
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- The goal for the corporations
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is to maximize profit and market share,
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and they also have a goal for their target,
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namely the population.
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They have to be turned into completely mindless consumers
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of goods that they do not want.
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01:09:45,336 --> 01:09:47,836
You have to develop what are called created wants.
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01:09:49,424 --> 01:09:50,256
So you have to create wants.
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You have to impose on people
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01:09:53,377 --> 01:09:54,623
what's called a philosophy of futility.
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01:09:55,917 --> 01:09:59,700
You have to focus them on the insignificant things of life
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01:10:01,074 --> 01:10:02,293
like fashionable consumption.
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01:10:06,325 --> 01:10:08,213
I'm just basically quoting business literature.
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And it makes perfect sense,
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the ideal is to have individuals
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who are totally dissociated from one another,
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whose conception of themselves,
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the sense of value is
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just how many created wants can I satisfy.
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(twinkling music)
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- [Narrator] These people are customers
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because they are willing to trade money for widgets.
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And all the customers take their widgets home
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to all parts of the country.
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01:10:40,631 --> 01:10:42,380
Look at all that money the widget builder has taken in
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01:10:43,231 --> 01:10:45,512
from the sale of his widgets.
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- With huge industries,
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public relations industry is a monstrous industry,
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advertising and so on,
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01:10:52,192 --> 01:10:53,640
which are designed from infancy
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01:10:54,912 --> 01:10:58,423
to try to mold people into this desired pattern.
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(cheerful music)
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01:11:04,771 --> 01:11:06,001
- [Chris Voiceover] We saw Tiger Woods on TV
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01:11:06,001 --> 01:11:07,073
with a hat with a Nike logo on it,
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01:11:08,393 --> 01:11:11,222
and we figured he probably gets like millions of dollars
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01:11:11,222 --> 01:11:12,123
just to wear the hat on the press conference,
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and therefore we figured we can do that for someone else
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01:11:15,571 --> 01:11:17,673
and hopefully get money in turn so we can go to school.
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01:11:19,483 --> 01:11:20,553
And that's how we came up with being corporately sponsored.
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01:11:22,411 --> 01:11:23,244
- [Luke Voiceover] We made our sponsor announcement
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01:11:23,244 --> 01:11:24,077
on Today Show on June 18th.
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01:11:25,214 --> 01:11:26,153
- We're corporately sponsored by First USA.
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01:11:27,309 --> 01:11:29,020
First we'll be working with First USA
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01:11:29,020 --> 01:11:30,327
as our corporate sponsor
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01:11:30,327 --> 01:11:31,160
and they're covering our college tuition.
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01:11:32,143 --> 01:11:33,815
- We found First USA as our sponsor,
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01:11:33,815 --> 01:11:34,964
and we're proud to be working with them.
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01:11:34,964 --> 01:11:35,823
- Our sponsor is First USA.
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01:11:36,906 --> 01:11:38,180
So we're really thrilled to announce
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01:11:39,503 --> 01:11:40,336
First USA as our sponsor.
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01:11:41,193 --> 01:11:42,693
We're thrilled to be working with First USA.
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01:11:43,804 --> 01:11:45,187
- [Chris Voiceover] And so we give First USA
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01:11:45,187 --> 01:11:46,183
a good name in the media
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01:11:46,183 --> 01:11:48,001
and include them in our news stories,
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01:11:48,001 --> 01:11:48,834
and then through there they get
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01:11:50,023 --> 01:11:50,993
as much advertising as we can give them.
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01:11:52,402 --> 01:11:53,762
- They'll be conforming
1541
01:11:53,762 --> 01:11:54,963
not to the wishes of demanding parents,
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01:11:56,093 --> 01:11:58,293
but to the wishes of an image-conscious corporation.
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01:11:59,493 --> 01:12:00,503
- They're not just out there for the money.
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01:12:02,133 --> 01:12:04,093
They want to work with us and be our friends
1545
01:12:04,093 --> 01:12:06,293
and let us help them help us and vice versa.
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01:12:07,490 --> 01:12:09,033
We became walking billboards to pay for our college tuition.
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01:12:10,172 --> 01:12:11,607
- [Show Host] Say what?!
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01:12:11,607 --> 01:12:12,440
- [Luke Voiceover] Cool Site of the Day
1549
01:12:12,440 --> 01:12:13,429
picked us as a Cool Site,
1550
01:12:13,429 --> 01:12:14,594
and Yahoo picked us,
1551
01:12:14,594 --> 01:12:15,753
and we were in USA Today.
1552
01:12:16,974 --> 01:12:18,823
- When we did our photo shoot for People magazine,
1553
01:12:20,073 --> 01:12:21,773
this is where we stood, up on top.
1554
01:12:23,264 --> 01:12:25,734
(Luke laughs)
1555
01:12:25,734 --> 01:12:27,092
- We stood up here and we smiled.
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01:12:27,092 --> 01:12:29,995
- We smiled and took the picture.
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01:12:29,995 --> 01:12:31,958
- [Luke] Our parents had war stories and stuff to tell us,
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01:12:31,958 --> 01:12:34,158
but (laughs) we have our corporate sponsor story.
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01:12:34,158 --> 01:12:34,991
- Exactly.
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01:12:34,991 --> 01:12:37,888
(triumphant music)
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01:12:37,888 --> 01:12:39,427
I have a lot of faith in the corporate world,
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01:12:39,427 --> 01:12:41,014
because it's always gonna be there,
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01:12:41,014 --> 01:12:42,265
so you may as well have faith in it,
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01:12:42,265 --> 01:12:43,952
because if you don't, then it's just not good.
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01:12:46,438 --> 01:12:48,386
- [Narrator] Some of the best creative minds are employed
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01:12:48,386 --> 01:12:50,093
to assure our faith in the corporate worldview.
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01:12:51,704 --> 01:12:53,390
They seduce us with beguiling illusions
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01:12:54,905 --> 01:12:56,736
designed to divert our minds
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01:12:56,736 --> 01:12:57,568
and manufacture our consent.
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01:12:58,478 --> 01:13:02,061
(weighty electronic music)
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- Corporations don't advertise products particularly.
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01:13:08,784 --> 01:13:10,623
They're advertising a way of life, a way of thinking,
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01:13:11,736 --> 01:13:14,780
a story of who we are as people and how we got here
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01:13:16,104 --> 01:13:17,680
and what's the source of our so-called liberty
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01:13:18,536 --> 01:13:19,915
and our so-called freedom.
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01:13:19,915 --> 01:13:22,595
So you have decades and decades and decades
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01:13:22,595 --> 01:13:23,640
of propaganda and education
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01:13:24,504 --> 01:13:25,353
teaching us to think in a certain way.
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01:13:26,885 --> 01:13:27,823
When applied to the large corporation,
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it's that the corporation was inevitable,
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01:13:32,142 --> 01:13:33,475
that it's indispensable,
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01:13:33,475 --> 01:13:34,573
that is somehow is remarkably efficient,
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01:13:35,536 --> 01:13:39,202
and that it is responsible for progress and a good life.
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01:13:40,256 --> 01:13:43,006
(dazzling music)
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01:13:52,326 --> 01:13:54,473
- Perception management is a very interesting concept.
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01:13:55,315 --> 01:13:56,148
It's basically a methodology
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01:13:57,358 --> 01:13:59,410
which helps us when we work with our clients
1588
01:14:00,336 --> 01:14:02,886
to go through a very systematic, thoughtful process
1589
01:14:04,283 --> 01:14:06,683
in order to be able to help our clients identify
1590
01:14:07,724 --> 01:14:09,173
what the resources are that they have,
1591
01:14:10,063 --> 01:14:11,643
what the barriers to their success are,
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01:14:12,514 --> 01:14:14,000
and how we can use communications
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01:14:14,884 --> 01:14:16,714
to help them accomplish their objectives.
1594
01:14:16,714 --> 01:14:19,381
(relaxed music)
1595
01:14:26,890 --> 01:14:29,040
If Michael or Angelica came to me and said,
1596
01:14:29,893 --> 01:14:32,243
"Dad, what do you do, and why is it important?"
1597
01:14:34,304 --> 01:14:36,010
my answer to that question is basically
1598
01:14:36,972 --> 01:14:38,914
that I help corporations have a voice.
1599
01:14:38,914 --> 01:14:41,664
(pleasant music)
1600
01:14:45,645 --> 01:14:47,864
And I help corporations share the point of view
1601
01:14:47,864 --> 01:14:49,382
about how they feel about things.
1602
01:14:49,382 --> 01:14:52,132
(cheerful music)
1603
01:14:54,524 --> 01:14:55,702
- They're selling themselves.
1604
01:14:55,702 --> 01:14:56,823
They're selling their domination.
1605
01:14:57,982 --> 01:14:59,181
They're selling their rule,
1606
01:14:59,181 --> 01:15:00,014
and they're creating an image for themselves
1607
01:15:00,991 --> 01:15:02,063
as just regular folks down the block.
1608
01:15:04,431 --> 01:15:05,264
- Hi, how you all doing today?
1609
01:15:06,614 --> 01:15:08,364
Good to see you.
1610
01:15:08,364 --> 01:15:10,793
How are you doing today?
1611
01:15:10,793 --> 01:15:12,852
Hi, how you doing today?
1612
01:15:12,852 --> 01:15:14,037
We're from Pfizer.
1613
01:15:14,037 --> 01:15:15,105
We're your neighbors.
1614
01:15:15,105 --> 01:15:15,938
You're in the new houses? - Huh?
1615
01:15:16,967 --> 01:15:17,800
- Are you in the new houses?
1616
01:15:17,800 --> 01:15:18,781
- Yeah, just right there.
1617
01:15:18,781 --> 01:15:19,923
- Oh, these are some neighbors.
1618
01:15:21,731 --> 01:15:22,760
Can we say hello?
1619
01:15:22,760 --> 01:15:23,758
- Huh?
1620
01:15:23,758 --> 01:15:24,591
- Can we say hello just for a minute?
1621
01:15:26,741 --> 01:15:27,843
So what do you think of the neighborhood now?
1622
01:15:28,821 --> 01:15:29,654
- [Woman] It's all right, it's good.
1623
01:15:30,549 --> 01:15:31,928
- Yeah, I think it's been getting better
1624
01:15:31,928 --> 01:15:34,099
over the last 20 years that I've been coming here.
1625
01:15:34,099 --> 01:15:35,688
- Yeah, yeah. - Yeah.
1626
01:15:35,688 --> 01:15:36,606
So I think together,
1627
01:15:36,606 --> 01:15:39,059
working with you and Pfizer and our other partnership
1628
01:15:39,898 --> 01:15:40,956
we'll make this a better place.
1629
01:15:40,956 --> 01:15:42,055
- Okay. - Okay.
1630
01:15:42,055 --> 01:15:42,888
- Bye. - Nice to see you,
1631
01:15:42,888 --> 01:15:43,721
Miss Fraser, bye.
1632
01:15:48,226 --> 01:15:49,333
There used to be a lot of crime at this subway.
1633
01:15:50,644 --> 01:15:51,500
One night as I was going home
1634
01:15:52,466 --> 01:15:53,783
I got caught and was almost mugged,
1635
01:15:56,716 --> 01:15:58,416
and so we decided to make a change
1636
01:15:59,767 --> 01:16:00,600
to make this community better.
1637
01:16:02,316 --> 01:16:04,733
(calm music)
1638
01:16:05,897 --> 01:16:09,063
We're looking at turnstiles that prevent fare beating.
1639
01:16:10,836 --> 01:16:12,583
It used to be that you could just hop right over.
1640
01:16:13,996 --> 01:16:16,473
So Pfizer, in collaboration with the Transit Authority,
1641
01:16:17,458 --> 01:16:18,658
actually purchased these
1642
01:16:20,967 --> 01:16:21,800
machines.
1643
01:16:26,354 --> 01:16:28,650
This is a talk-back box that allows us to speak
1644
01:16:29,965 --> 01:16:31,607
to the Pfizer guard,
1645
01:16:31,607 --> 01:16:33,463
which is approximately 500 yards from here.
1646
01:16:35,428 --> 01:16:37,097
Now I haven't seen the Pfizer guard today,
1647
01:16:37,097 --> 01:16:38,596
but I'm gonna see if I can call him.
1648
01:16:38,596 --> 01:16:39,429
If he's not, I'll have to go wake him up.
1649
01:16:41,027 --> 01:16:42,093
Hello, hello, Tom Klein speaking.
1650
01:16:46,215 --> 01:16:48,665
So I'm sure before we're through he'll call back.
1651
01:16:49,527 --> 01:16:51,388
But particularly on the off hours,
1652
01:16:51,388 --> 01:16:54,010
this allows a passenger to call directly
1653
01:16:55,516 --> 01:16:56,903
to the Pfizer desk for assistance,
1654
01:16:58,036 --> 01:17:00,586
and then the Pfizer guard calls the transit police,
1655
01:17:01,548 --> 01:17:04,493
and the transit police respond to any crime situation.
1656
01:17:05,839 --> 01:17:07,028
As a result of all this,
1657
01:17:07,028 --> 01:17:08,540
crime is down in the station.
1658
01:17:08,540 --> 01:17:10,293
It's much safer for our community partners.
1659
01:17:11,260 --> 01:17:12,093
Thank you.
1660
01:17:15,988 --> 01:17:17,278
(laughs)
1661
01:17:17,278 --> 01:17:21,028
We'll press the other button just to be sure.
1662
01:17:22,628 --> 01:17:24,295
Tom speaking, hello.
1663
01:17:26,099 --> 01:17:28,240
We'll stop over and see him personally. (laughs)
1664
01:17:28,240 --> 01:17:30,990
(careless music)
1665
01:17:35,880 --> 01:17:37,200
- It's tough.
1666
01:17:37,200 --> 01:17:39,880
They're putting some taxpayer and shareholder money
1667
01:17:39,880 --> 01:17:41,380
into helping, and who can say,
1668
01:17:42,618 --> 01:17:44,589
but that money should be going to the taxpayers
1669
01:17:44,589 --> 01:17:45,422
to decide what to do.
1670
01:17:47,290 --> 01:17:49,083
And while they're doing those sort of nice things,
1671
01:17:49,989 --> 01:17:51,200
they're also playing a role
1672
01:17:51,200 --> 01:17:53,148
in lowering taxes for corporations
1673
01:17:53,148 --> 01:17:54,070
and lowering taxes for wealthy people
1674
01:17:55,130 --> 01:17:56,183
and reconfiguring public policy.
1675
01:17:57,657 --> 01:17:58,538
What we don't see is all
1676
01:17:58,538 --> 01:17:59,989
that reconfiguring going on.
1677
01:17:59,989 --> 01:18:01,043
We don't see them vacuum out the money,
1678
01:18:02,237 --> 01:18:03,613
vacuum out the insides of public processes,
1679
01:18:04,629 --> 01:18:05,643
but we do see the nice facade.
1680
01:18:07,789 --> 01:18:08,898
(cash register dings)
1681
01:18:08,898 --> 01:18:11,648
(pleasant music)
1682
01:18:35,400 --> 01:18:36,693
- When I was researching the takeover of public space,
1683
01:18:37,534 --> 01:18:39,344
when I started off I thought,
1684
01:18:39,344 --> 01:18:40,763
"Okay, this is just advertising.
1685
01:18:40,763 --> 01:18:42,184
"We've always had advertising.
1686
01:18:42,184 --> 01:18:43,017
"It's just more advertising."
1687
01:18:44,403 --> 01:18:46,100
But what I started to understand and what I understand now
1688
01:18:46,943 --> 01:18:48,963
is that branding is not advertising,
1689
01:18:48,963 --> 01:18:50,123
it's production,
1690
01:18:50,123 --> 01:18:52,403
and very successful corporations,
1691
01:18:52,403 --> 01:18:54,064
the corporations of the future,
1692
01:18:54,064 --> 01:18:55,715
do not produce products,
1693
01:18:55,715 --> 01:18:56,693
they produce brand meaning.
1694
01:18:58,574 --> 01:19:00,180
The dissemination of the idea of themselves
1695
01:19:01,123 --> 01:19:02,675
is their act of production,
1696
01:19:02,675 --> 01:19:05,041
and the dissemination of the idea of themselves
1697
01:19:05,041 --> 01:19:06,742
is an enormously invasive project.
1698
01:19:08,174 --> 01:19:09,583
So how do you make a brand idea real?
1699
01:19:10,532 --> 01:19:11,930
Well, a good place to start is
1700
01:19:12,875 --> 01:19:15,875
by building a three-dimensional manifestation of your brand.
1701
01:19:17,454 --> 01:19:20,383
For a company like Disney it goes even further,
1702
01:19:20,383 --> 01:19:22,403
where it's actually building a town,
1703
01:19:22,403 --> 01:19:23,803
Celebration, Florida.
1704
01:19:23,803 --> 01:19:26,043
- Currently there are about 5,000 residents
1705
01:19:26,043 --> 01:19:26,876
who call Celebration home,
1706
01:19:27,824 --> 01:19:30,635
and there are about 1,300 single-family homes,
1707
01:19:30,635 --> 01:19:33,085
a town center that's a place where people gather,
1708
01:19:34,331 --> 01:19:36,281
that has about four or five restaurants
1709
01:19:37,563 --> 01:19:39,063
and about a dozen other shops.
1710
01:19:41,174 --> 01:19:42,260
- [Naomi] Their inspiration, their brand image
1711
01:19:43,134 --> 01:19:44,670
is the all-American family
1712
01:19:46,043 --> 01:19:47,233
and the sort of bygone American town.
1713
01:19:48,403 --> 01:19:50,986
(joyful music)
1714
01:20:07,843 --> 01:20:09,693
- Their brand driver is family magic.
1715
01:20:11,312 --> 01:20:12,280
And everything that that company does
1716
01:20:13,712 --> 01:20:15,362
is in and around those two words.
1717
01:20:16,952 --> 01:20:18,701
If you take that,
1718
01:20:18,701 --> 01:20:21,701
a branded environment such as a Disney World or a Disneyland
1719
01:20:22,742 --> 01:20:24,592
is a logical extension of that brand.
1720
01:20:25,752 --> 01:20:28,250
Film, animated film, family-oriented film
1721
01:20:29,643 --> 01:20:30,843
is a very logical extension of that.
1722
01:20:32,422 --> 01:20:34,472
As a business though, they also know that
1723
01:20:35,483 --> 01:20:38,020
if they want to get into other forms of entertainment
1724
01:20:39,192 --> 01:20:40,742
that does not fit family magic,
1725
01:20:41,992 --> 01:20:42,873
they do not brand it Disney.
1726
01:20:44,992 --> 01:20:47,742
If they want to get into adult, more serious type fare,
1727
01:20:49,402 --> 01:20:50,473
when it comes to film they brand it Touchstone.
1728
01:20:52,043 --> 01:20:53,102
(exploding)
1729
01:20:53,102 --> 01:20:54,303
- The Disney brand speaks of reassurance,
1730
01:20:55,403 --> 01:20:56,403
it speaks of tradition,
1731
01:20:56,403 --> 01:20:57,912
it speaks of quality,
1732
01:20:57,912 --> 01:20:58,745
and you can see that here
1733
01:20:59,651 --> 01:21:00,803
in this community that we've built.
1734
01:21:02,192 --> 01:21:04,011
- And that's where you see the truly
1735
01:21:04,011 --> 01:21:05,753
imperialist aspirations of branding,
1736
01:21:06,643 --> 01:21:09,993
which is about building these privatized branded cocoons,
1737
01:21:11,451 --> 01:21:14,061
which maybe you start by shopping in
1738
01:21:14,061 --> 01:21:16,611
and then you you continue by holidaying in,
1739
01:21:16,611 --> 01:21:18,243
but eventually why not just move in?
1740
01:21:19,323 --> 01:21:21,742
(energetic music)
1741
01:21:21,742 --> 01:21:22,575
- [Jeremy] What happens if we wake up one day
1742
01:21:24,089 --> 01:21:27,043
and we find out that virtually all of our relationships
1743
01:21:27,043 --> 01:21:29,563
that are mediated between us and our fellow human beings
1744
01:21:29,563 --> 01:21:31,451
are commercial,
1745
01:21:31,451 --> 01:21:33,340
we find out that virtually every relationship we have
1746
01:21:34,803 --> 01:21:36,080
is a commercially arbitrated relationship
1747
01:21:37,032 --> 01:21:38,431
with our fellow human being?
1748
01:21:38,431 --> 01:21:39,340
Can civilization survive
1749
01:21:40,763 --> 01:21:42,363
on that narrower definition
1750
01:21:42,363 --> 01:21:43,196
of how we interact with each other?
1751
01:21:45,050 --> 01:21:46,532
- Wow, what a dream.
1752
01:21:48,611 --> 01:21:51,443
(perplexed music)
1753
01:21:52,571 --> 01:21:54,580
- I could give you a day in the life of a person
1754
01:21:56,291 --> 01:21:58,472
who might be the target of undercover marketing,
1755
01:21:58,472 --> 01:21:59,771
and I will tell you that
1756
01:21:59,771 --> 01:22:02,153
some of these things are happening right now around you.
1757
01:22:03,321 --> 01:22:05,073
So you walk out of your building in the morning, some city,
1758
01:22:05,912 --> 01:22:06,942
and you walk by the doorman,
1759
01:22:06,942 --> 01:22:08,472
you say, "Hey, good morning,"
1760
01:22:08,472 --> 01:22:10,410
and you notice there's a bunch of boxes at his feet
1761
01:22:11,271 --> 01:22:13,271
from some online or mail-order retailer,
1762
01:22:14,131 --> 01:22:15,462
and there's a bunch of boxes there
1763
01:22:15,462 --> 01:22:17,443
with of course big brand message on it.
1764
01:22:17,443 --> 01:22:18,662
You walk out, think,
1765
01:22:18,662 --> 01:22:19,897
"Wow, a lot of people must be ordering from that company."
1766
01:22:20,771 --> 01:22:23,171
What you don't know is that we paid the doorman
1767
01:22:23,171 --> 01:22:24,004
to keep those empty boxes there.
1768
01:22:25,483 --> 01:22:26,992
You walk out into the street
1769
01:22:26,992 --> 01:22:28,760
and you hear some people having kind of a loud conversation
1770
01:22:29,611 --> 01:22:30,950
about a musical act
1771
01:22:32,592 --> 01:22:34,662
and they're kind of passing the headphones back and forth,
1772
01:22:34,662 --> 01:22:36,152
like, "Wow, this is great."
1773
01:22:36,152 --> 01:22:37,832
- That is really-- - That good?
1774
01:22:37,832 --> 01:22:39,390
- [Jonathan] "Hey, do you know that
1775
01:22:39,390 --> 01:22:41,462
"I heard this CD is really hard to find,
1776
01:22:41,462 --> 01:22:42,666
"but I heard they sell it at Store X."
1777
01:22:44,053 --> 01:22:45,342
- I'm gonna go pick it up.
1778
01:22:45,342 --> 01:22:46,175
It's so good.
1779
01:22:46,175 --> 01:22:47,061
- It's great, isn't it? - Yeah.
1780
01:22:47,061 --> 01:22:47,963
- You hear that you register it
1781
01:22:47,963 --> 01:22:49,963
and you might kind of pick up on that,
1782
01:22:49,963 --> 01:22:50,796
and maybe later on you'll think,
1783
01:22:51,632 --> 01:22:52,982
"Hey, I wonder what the hot act is banging."
1784
01:22:52,982 --> 01:22:54,094
That might be in your head.
1785
01:22:54,094 --> 01:22:55,512
Now you get into your office
1786
01:22:55,512 --> 01:22:58,302
and there's a certain brand of water in the refrigerator.
1787
01:22:58,302 --> 01:22:59,385
What is that?
1788
01:23:00,312 --> 01:23:01,803
You take it out, you drink it, you slug it down,
1789
01:23:01,803 --> 01:23:04,651
it's there, and not really thinking about it,
1790
01:23:04,651 --> 01:23:05,484
"Wow, that's pretty good water."
1791
01:23:07,392 --> 01:23:08,559
Who knows?
1792
01:23:08,559 --> 01:23:09,931
Maybe someone placed the water there.
1793
01:23:09,931 --> 01:23:11,032
You kind of go out for your lunch break,
1794
01:23:11,032 --> 01:23:11,902
you're sitting in the park
1795
01:23:11,902 --> 01:23:14,458
and people are kind of out there talking in the park,
1796
01:23:14,458 --> 01:23:15,782
and bang, all the sudden you see another message.
1797
01:23:20,070 --> 01:23:22,270
By the time you go to bed you've probably received
1798
01:23:23,510 --> 01:23:25,263
eight or nine different undercover messages.
1799
01:23:26,818 --> 01:23:27,652
People are always thinking,
1800
01:23:27,652 --> 01:23:29,150
"Well, oh, I know product placement,
1801
01:23:29,150 --> 01:23:30,771
"that's when they put stuff in movies."
1802
01:23:30,771 --> 01:23:32,360
Well, yes, kind of.
1803
01:23:32,360 --> 01:23:34,211
I mean, that's definitely traditional product placement,
1804
01:23:34,211 --> 01:23:36,411
but real-life product placement is just that,
1805
01:23:36,411 --> 01:23:38,282
placing stuff in movies, but the movie's actually your life.
1806
01:23:40,030 --> 01:23:40,863
We'll take a group of attainable
1807
01:23:42,068 --> 01:23:43,582
but still aspirational people.
1808
01:23:43,582 --> 01:23:44,599
They're not supermodels.
1809
01:23:44,599 --> 01:23:45,432
They're kind of people just like you.
1810
01:23:46,760 --> 01:23:48,182
They're doing something for us,
1811
01:23:48,182 --> 01:23:50,502
whether they're having a certain kind of drink
1812
01:23:50,502 --> 01:23:51,960
or they're using a certain laundry detergent,
1813
01:23:51,960 --> 01:23:53,571
whatever it may be.
1814
01:23:53,571 --> 01:23:55,983
They are the roach motel, if you will.
1815
01:23:57,422 --> 01:23:58,600
People are gonna come over to them
1816
01:23:58,600 --> 01:24:00,003
and they're gonna give them this little piece of brand bait.
1817
01:24:02,182 --> 01:24:03,263
Could be a soundbite of knowledge or a ritual.
1818
01:24:04,811 --> 01:24:06,510
Consumers will get that piece of roach bait
1819
01:24:06,510 --> 01:24:08,240
and then they'll take it, they go, "Oh, pretty cool,"
1820
01:24:08,240 --> 01:24:09,223
and then they go out and they spread it to their friends.
1821
01:24:11,331 --> 01:24:12,411
If you want to be critical,
1822
01:24:12,411 --> 01:24:13,720
if you want to go through your life like that,
1823
01:24:13,720 --> 01:24:15,370
sure, be critical of every single person
1824
01:24:15,370 --> 01:24:17,708
that walks up to you,
1825
01:24:17,708 --> 01:24:19,160
but if they're showing you something that fits
1826
01:24:19,160 --> 01:24:19,993
and something that works
1827
01:24:19,993 --> 01:24:21,083
and something that makes your life better in some way,
1828
01:24:22,451 --> 01:24:23,609
well then who cares?
1829
01:24:23,609 --> 01:24:24,759
Again, just say thanks.
1830
01:24:32,302 --> 01:24:34,885
(veiled music)
1831
01:24:36,607 --> 01:24:37,440
- [Narrator] Today the job of building this nation
1832
01:24:38,448 --> 01:24:39,443
geographically is completed.
1833
01:24:41,019 --> 01:24:42,643
There are no new frontiers within our borders.
1834
01:24:44,710 --> 01:24:46,710
So to what new horizons can we look now?
1835
01:24:48,539 --> 01:24:49,553
Where are tomorrow's opportunities?
1836
01:24:51,208 --> 01:24:53,208
What's ahead for you, for your children?
1837
01:24:55,128 --> 01:24:56,823
The frontiers of the future are not on any map.
1838
01:24:58,659 --> 01:24:59,940
They are in the test tubes and laboratories
1839
01:25:01,000 --> 01:25:02,088
of the great industries.
1840
01:25:02,088 --> 01:25:05,421
(calm electronic music)
1841
01:25:08,539 --> 01:25:11,184
- The Chakrabarty case was one of the great judicial moments
1842
01:25:11,184 --> 01:25:12,867
in world history,
1843
01:25:12,867 --> 01:25:16,068
and the public was totally unaware it was actually happening
1844
01:25:16,068 --> 01:25:17,263
as the process was being engaged.
1845
01:25:18,548 --> 01:25:20,530
General Electric and Professor Chakrabarty
1846
01:25:21,406 --> 01:25:22,606
went to the Patent Office
1847
01:25:22,606 --> 01:25:24,183
with a little microbe that eats up oil spills.
1848
01:25:25,476 --> 01:25:28,045
They said they had modified this microbe in the laboratory,
1849
01:25:28,045 --> 01:25:28,878
and therefore it was an invention.
1850
01:25:30,166 --> 01:25:31,617
The Patent Office of the U.S. government
1851
01:25:31,617 --> 01:25:33,343
took a look at this, quote, invention
1852
01:25:33,343 --> 01:25:35,702
and they said, "No way.
1853
01:25:35,702 --> 01:25:37,093
"The patent statutes don't cover living things.
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01:25:38,316 --> 01:25:39,903
"This is not an invention."
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Turned down.
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Then General Electric and Dr. Chakrabarty
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appealed to the U.S. Customs Court of Appeal,
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01:25:46,756 --> 01:25:48,257
and to everyone's surprise,
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01:25:48,257 --> 01:25:49,756
by a three-to-two decision,
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they overrode the Patent Office.
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โช GE we bring good things to life โช
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- And they said, "This microbe looks more like a detergent
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01:25:58,236 --> 01:25:59,947
"or a reagent than a horse or a honeybee."
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I laughed because they didn't understand basic biology.
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01:26:04,105 --> 01:26:05,446
It looked like a chemical to them.
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01:26:05,446 --> 01:26:08,297
Had it had an antenna or eyes or wings or legs,
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it would never have crossed their table and been patented.
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01:26:12,686 --> 01:26:13,523
Then the Patent Office appealed.
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01:26:14,925 --> 01:26:16,326
And what the public should realize now
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01:26:16,326 --> 01:26:17,846
is the Patent Office was very clear
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01:26:17,846 --> 01:26:20,836
that you can't patent life.
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01:26:20,836 --> 01:26:23,536
My organization provided the main amicus curiae brief.
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01:26:25,644 --> 01:26:27,473
"If you allow the patent on this microbe," we argued,
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"It means that without any congressional guidance
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01:26:31,105 --> 01:26:31,938
"or public discussion,
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"corporations will own the blueprints of life."
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01:26:36,785 --> 01:26:37,665
When they made the decision,
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01:26:37,665 --> 01:26:38,964
we lost by five to four,
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01:26:38,964 --> 01:26:40,924
and Chief Justice Warren Burger said,
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01:26:40,924 --> 01:26:42,723
"Sure, some of these are big issues,
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01:26:42,723 --> 01:26:44,317
"but we think this is a small decision."
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01:26:45,839 --> 01:26:47,553
Seven years later the U.S. Patent Office
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issued a one-sentence decree,
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01:26:49,892 --> 01:26:51,300
"You can patent anything in the world that's alive
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"except a full-birth human being."
1886
01:26:54,793 --> 01:26:57,293
(eerie music)
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- [Newscaster] The Supreme Court of the United States
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01:27:00,135 --> 01:27:03,135
ruled today that living organisms produced in the laboratory
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01:27:04,175 --> 01:27:05,353
may be patented.
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01:27:05,353 --> 01:27:06,735
This decision to extend patenting...
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01:27:06,735 --> 01:27:08,456
- [Man] The U.S. Supreme Court had to decide
1892
01:27:08,456 --> 01:27:11,300
was whether one man or one company should be
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01:27:11,300 --> 01:27:12,900
able to control new forms of life.
1894
01:27:13,952 --> 01:27:15,610
- [Woman] If we allow any company or college
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01:27:16,640 --> 01:27:18,043
to exclusively own a species,
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01:27:19,112 --> 01:27:22,232
what does that say about our reverence for life?
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01:27:22,232 --> 01:27:23,138
- [Newscaster] Researchers at Harvard
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01:27:23,138 --> 01:27:24,891
manipulated the genes of mice,
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01:27:24,891 --> 01:27:26,523
making their offspring more susceptible to cancer.
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01:27:27,571 --> 01:27:28,699
They patented the Harvard Mouse
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01:27:28,699 --> 01:27:29,753
in the U.S, Europe, and Japan.
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01:27:30,611 --> 01:27:33,747
- [Man] The legal battle finally came to an end today.
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01:27:33,747 --> 01:27:35,338
The Supreme Court of Canada
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01:27:35,338 --> 01:27:39,219
ruled the genetically engineered mouse Canada patented.
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01:27:39,219 --> 01:27:41,872
- [Woman] Canadians don't think that life forms
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01:27:41,872 --> 01:27:42,705
are inventions of industry, like
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01:27:43,856 --> 01:27:44,689
light bulbs and widgets. - Bio-prospecting.
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01:27:44,689 --> 01:27:46,056
- [Woman] cientists and drug companies
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01:27:46,056 --> 01:27:47,948
search the planet for genes.
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01:27:47,948 --> 01:27:49,438
- [Woman] Companies scouring planet
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01:27:49,438 --> 01:27:50,583
looking for valuable DNA,
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01:27:51,699 --> 01:27:52,767
genes they can patent and sell.
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01:27:54,099 --> 01:27:55,747
- [Man] Feels like the Wild West.
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01:27:55,747 --> 01:27:58,219
We've got bandits going around the world,
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01:27:58,219 --> 01:27:59,208
collecting wherever they can,
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01:27:59,208 --> 01:28:00,267
sometimes under false pretenses.
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01:28:00,267 --> 01:28:01,574
- [Woman] Because it's been so isolated,
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01:28:01,574 --> 01:28:02,950
Newfoundland has a unique gene pool,
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01:28:03,854 --> 01:28:05,081
and there's been so much interest
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01:28:05,081 --> 01:28:06,059
for gene prospectors-- - My genetic imprint--
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01:28:06,059 --> 01:28:07,910
- That the government is funding a study.
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01:28:07,910 --> 01:28:10,462
- [Woman] Really has been taken away from me.
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01:28:10,462 --> 01:28:11,730
- [Man] Instead of being the impartial pursuit of the truth
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01:28:12,608 --> 01:28:14,969
has become the pursuit of profit.
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01:28:14,969 --> 01:28:17,636
(strange music)
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- We've all been hearing about the announcement
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that we have mapped the human genome,
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01:28:28,491 --> 01:28:30,450
but what the public doesn't know is
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01:28:30,450 --> 01:28:33,379
now there's a great race by genomic companies
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01:28:33,379 --> 01:28:34,610
and biotech companies and life science companies
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01:28:35,630 --> 01:28:36,843
to find the treasure in the map.
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The treasure are the individual genes
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that make up the blueprint of the human race.
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Every time they capture a gene and isolate it,
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01:28:44,619 --> 01:28:46,663
these biotech companies claim it as intellectual property.
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01:28:47,790 --> 01:28:49,452
The breast cancer gene, the cystic fibrosis gene,
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01:28:50,360 --> 01:28:51,323
it goes on and on and on.
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01:28:52,401 --> 01:28:53,723
If this goes unchallenged in the world community,
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01:28:55,470 --> 01:28:56,303
within less than 10 years,
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01:28:57,550 --> 01:28:58,430
a handful of global companies will own
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directly or through license
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the actual genes that make up the evolution of our species.
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01:29:05,321 --> 01:29:07,481
And they're now beginning to patent the genomes
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01:29:07,481 --> 01:29:09,113
of every other creature on this planet.
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In the age of biology the politics is gonna sort out
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01:29:13,817 --> 01:29:15,753
between those who believe life first has intrinsic value,
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01:29:16,771 --> 01:29:18,508
and therefore we should choose technologies
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and commercial venues
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that honor the intrinsic value,
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01:29:22,961 --> 01:29:24,150
and then we're gonna have people who believe,
1951
01:29:24,150 --> 01:29:25,093
"Look, life is simply utility.
1952
01:29:26,131 --> 01:29:27,691
"It's commercial fare."
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01:29:27,691 --> 01:29:29,189
And they will line up with the idea
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01:29:29,189 --> 01:29:31,411
to let the marketplace be the ultimate arbiter
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of all of the age of biology.
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(calm acoustic music)
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- [Narrator] In a world economy
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where information is filtered by global media corporations
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keenly attuned to their powerful advertisers,
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who will defend the public's right to know?
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01:29:48,243 --> 01:29:49,403
And what price must be paid
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to preserve our ability to make informed choices?
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(tense music)
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- What Fox Television told us was that
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we were just the people to be the investigators.
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- Do any stories you want,
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ask tough questions and get answers.
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So we thought, "This is great.
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"This is a dream job.
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"Fantastic."
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The very first thing they had us do
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was not to research stories
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01:30:17,233 --> 01:30:18,711
but to shoot this promo
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which was The Investigators.
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- [Man] Uncovering the truth, getting results,
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protecting you.
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- [Jane] And they had a film crew and a smoke machine
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and we were silhouetted.
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- One of the first stories that Jane came up with
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was the revelation that
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most of the milk in the state of Florida
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and throughout much of the country
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was adulterated with the effects of bovine growth hormone.
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01:30:42,102 --> 01:30:43,382
(cow moos)
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- With Monsanto I didn't realize
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01:30:45,439 --> 01:30:47,639
how effectively a corporation could work
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to get something on the marketplace,
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the levels of coordination they had to have.
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They had to get university professors into the fold.
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They had to get experts into the fold.
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01:30:56,713 --> 01:30:57,883
They had to get reporters into the fold.
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01:30:58,831 --> 01:30:59,664
They had to get the public into the fold.
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And of course the FDA, let's not leave them out.
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They had to get the federal regulators convinced
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that this was a fine and safe product,
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to get it onto the marketplace.
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And they did that.
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They did that very, very well
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- Posilac is the single most tested new product in history,
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01:31:15,743 --> 01:31:18,326
and it's now available to you specifically,
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01:31:18,326 --> 01:31:19,702
so you can increase your profit potential.
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- The federal government basically rubber-stamped it
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01:31:23,345 --> 01:31:24,353
before they put it on the marketplace.
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The longest test they did for human toxicity
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was 90 days on 30 rats,
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01:31:30,294 --> 01:31:33,770
and then either Monsanto misreported the results to the FDA
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01:31:35,145 --> 01:31:37,223
or the FDA didn't bother to look in depth
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01:31:37,223 --> 01:31:38,293
at Monsanto's own studies.
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01:31:39,782 --> 01:31:40,870
- [Steve] The scientists within Health Canada
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01:31:41,744 --> 01:31:42,870
looked very carefully at bovine growth hormone
2011
01:31:43,763 --> 01:31:45,355
and came to very different conclusions
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01:31:45,355 --> 01:31:47,083
than the Food and Drug Administration in the U.S. did.
2013
01:31:48,773 --> 01:31:49,870
- Monsanto's engineered growth hormone
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01:31:50,923 --> 01:31:52,413
did not comply with safety requirements.
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01:31:53,353 --> 01:31:54,363
It could be absorbed by the body,
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01:31:55,254 --> 01:31:57,253
and therefore did have implications for human health.
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Mysteriously, that conclusion was deleted
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from the final published version of their report
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- I personally was very concerned that
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01:32:06,294 --> 01:32:09,053
there's a very serious problem of secrecy, conspiracy,
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01:32:10,243 --> 01:32:11,103
and things of that nature.
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01:32:12,441 --> 01:32:13,450
We have been pressured and coerced
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01:32:14,673 --> 01:32:16,523
to pass drugs of questionable safety,
2024
01:32:17,620 --> 01:32:18,570
including the rBST.
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- [Steve] We wrote the story.
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01:32:21,083 --> 01:32:21,933
We had it ready a week beforehand.
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They'd bought ads.
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- [Announcer] Farmers in the milk industry say it's safe,
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01:32:26,773 --> 01:32:27,753
but studies suggest a link to cancer.
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Don't miss this special report from the Investigators.
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01:32:30,705 --> 01:32:31,538
- That Friday night
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before the Monday this series was to begin,
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01:32:33,635 --> 01:32:35,059
the fax machine spit out a letter
2034
01:32:36,075 --> 01:32:38,325
from this very high-priced lawyer in New York
2035
01:32:39,715 --> 01:32:40,793
that Monsanto had hired.
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01:32:42,105 --> 01:32:43,246
And it contained a lot of things
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01:32:43,246 --> 01:32:44,363
that were just off-the-wall false,
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just demonstrably false.
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But if you didn't know the story
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and you didn't know how we had gone about producing it,
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01:32:51,145 --> 01:32:52,566
it would've scared you,
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01:32:52,566 --> 01:32:53,833
as a broadcaster, as a manager.
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- [Jane] And they decided that they would pull the story
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01:32:57,275 --> 01:32:58,243
and they would just check it one more time.
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01:33:00,184 --> 01:33:01,365
- But the bottom line was that
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01:33:01,365 --> 01:33:03,184
there was no factual errors in that story.
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01:33:03,184 --> 01:33:05,315
Both sides had been heard from.
2048
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Both sides had had an opportunity to speak.
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01:33:07,663 --> 01:33:09,643
- One week later, Monsanto sent the second letter,
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01:33:10,933 --> 01:33:11,766
and this was even more strongly worded.
2051
01:33:12,814 --> 01:33:15,814
And it said there will be, "Dire consequences for Fox News,"
2052
01:33:16,734 --> 01:33:17,683
if the story airs in Florida.
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01:33:20,286 --> 01:33:22,206
And this time they freaked.
2054
01:33:22,206 --> 01:33:23,806
They were afraid of being sued,
2055
01:33:23,806 --> 01:33:25,950
and they were also afraid of losing advertising dollars
2056
01:33:26,886 --> 01:33:28,263
at all of the stations owned by Rupert Murdoch.
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01:33:29,486 --> 01:33:31,577
And he owned more television stations
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01:33:31,577 --> 01:33:32,663
than any other group in America.
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01:33:34,235 --> 01:33:35,806
That's 22 television stations.
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01:33:35,806 --> 01:33:37,326
That's a lot of advertising dollars,
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01:33:37,326 --> 01:33:40,076
for Roundup, aspartame, NutraSweet, and other products.
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01:33:41,795 --> 01:33:43,217
- So we got into a battle,
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01:33:43,217 --> 01:33:45,567
and the first deal was the new general manager.
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01:33:46,606 --> 01:33:47,896
- And his name's Dave.
2065
01:33:47,896 --> 01:33:49,086
And Dave is a salesman,
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01:33:49,086 --> 01:33:51,126
and he'd pump your hand, "How ya doing, how ya doing?"
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01:33:51,126 --> 01:33:52,434
- Called us upstairs to his office
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01:33:52,434 --> 01:33:55,235
and he said, "What would you say if I killed this piece?
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01:33:57,193 --> 01:33:59,297
"What if it never ran?
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01:33:59,297 --> 01:34:02,434
And we said, "Well, we wouldn't be very happy about that."
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01:34:02,434 --> 01:34:04,017
And he said, "Well I could kill it, you know."
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01:34:04,017 --> 01:34:05,646
And we said, "Yes, of course, you're the manager.
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01:34:05,646 --> 01:34:06,479
"You could kill it.
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01:34:06,479 --> 01:34:07,987
"It would never air."
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01:34:07,987 --> 01:34:09,817
And he's hemming and he's hawing
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01:34:09,817 --> 01:34:10,726
and he's back and he's forth.
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01:34:10,726 --> 01:34:11,583
And we couldn't figure out what is this all about.
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01:34:12,467 --> 01:34:15,416
And finally he blurted out, "Look, would you tell anybody?"
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01:34:17,635 --> 01:34:19,766
I said, "I'm not gonna lie for you."
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01:34:19,766 --> 01:34:21,925
About a week later he calls us back to the office and says,
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01:34:21,925 --> 01:34:23,043
"Okay, we'd like you to make these changes.
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01:34:24,267 --> 01:34:25,837
"In fact, you will make these changes."
2083
01:34:27,205 --> 01:34:28,286
We said, "Well look, let us show you
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01:34:28,286 --> 01:34:29,119
"the research that we have,
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01:34:30,075 --> 01:34:31,574
"that shows that this information
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01:34:31,574 --> 01:34:32,517
"you want us to broadcast isn't true,"
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01:34:33,394 --> 01:34:34,467
to which he replies, "I don't care about that."
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01:34:36,307 --> 01:34:37,587
I said, "Pardon me?"
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01:34:37,587 --> 01:34:38,733
And he said, "That's what I have lawyers for.
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01:34:39,805 --> 01:34:41,197
"Just write it the way the lawyers want it written."
2091
01:34:42,565 --> 01:34:44,184
I said, "You know, this is news.
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01:34:44,184 --> 01:34:45,155
"This is important.
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01:34:45,155 --> 01:34:45,987
"This is stuff people need to know."
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01:34:47,193 --> 01:34:49,223
And I'll never forget, he didn't pause a beat and he said,
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01:34:50,434 --> 01:34:53,184
"We just paid $3 billion for these television stations.
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01:34:55,085 --> 01:34:56,293
"We'll tell you what the news is.
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01:34:57,627 --> 01:34:58,567
"The news is what we say it is."
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I said, "I'm not doing that."
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01:35:01,805 --> 01:35:03,085
And he said, "Well,"
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01:35:03,085 --> 01:35:04,946
he said, "If you refuse to present this story
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01:35:04,946 --> 01:35:06,013
"the way we think it should be presented,
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"you'll be fired for insubordination."
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I said, "I will go to the Federal Communications Commission
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01:35:12,166 --> 01:35:14,516
"and I will report that I was fired from my job
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01:35:16,065 --> 01:35:17,862
"by you, the licensee of these public airwaves,
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01:35:18,826 --> 01:35:20,246
"because I refused to lie to people on the air."
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01:35:21,425 --> 01:35:22,443
And it's, "Thank you very much.
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"You'll hear from us right away."
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Well, 24 hours came and went and we didn't hear a thing.
2110
01:35:28,366 --> 01:35:30,094
And about a week later he calls us back
2111
01:35:30,094 --> 01:35:30,927
and now we've changed strategies.
2112
01:35:32,635 --> 01:35:35,535
"How about if we pay you some money and you just go away?"
2113
01:35:38,857 --> 01:35:40,307
And I said, "How much money?"
2114
01:35:42,315 --> 01:35:44,155
because when somebody offers to bribe you like that
2115
01:35:44,155 --> 01:35:45,263
I always want to know if it might be worth it.
2116
01:35:46,297 --> 01:35:48,100
- He was gonna offer us the rest of our year's salary
2117
01:35:49,867 --> 01:35:54,663
if we agreed not to talk about what Monsanto had done,
2118
01:35:56,398 --> 01:35:58,598
to not talk about the Fox corporate response
2119
01:36:00,126 --> 01:36:01,766
in suppressing the story,
2120
01:36:01,766 --> 01:36:03,366
and to not talk about the story,
2121
01:36:05,217 --> 01:36:06,467
not talk about BGH again,
2122
01:36:07,955 --> 01:36:08,955
anywhere,
2123
01:36:08,955 --> 01:36:10,393
not take this story to another news organization,
2124
01:36:11,835 --> 01:36:12,668
zip up.
2125
01:36:13,955 --> 01:36:14,788
- I said, "You mean if I want to go
2126
01:36:14,788 --> 01:36:16,137
"to my daughter's PTA meetings
2127
01:36:16,137 --> 01:36:17,190
"and explain what's in the school milk
2128
01:36:18,535 --> 01:36:19,707
"at the school lunch program, I can't?"
2129
01:36:20,616 --> 01:36:21,449
"No.
2130
01:36:21,449 --> 01:36:23,166
"You can never speak about this anywhere."
2131
01:36:23,166 --> 01:36:25,066
- And Steve says, "Okay, write it up."
2132
01:36:26,005 --> 01:36:28,547
And I'm like, "What are you talking about write it up?"
2133
01:36:29,913 --> 01:36:30,746
And I didn't say anything.
2134
01:36:31,673 --> 01:36:33,280
And Dave, he wrote it up
2135
01:36:35,050 --> 01:36:36,782
and he FedExed it to us a couple days later.
2136
01:36:37,833 --> 01:36:39,532
And he said, "Are you gonna sign?"
2137
01:36:41,171 --> 01:36:42,807
And we said, "Nah, Dave, we're not gonna sign that."
2138
01:36:44,483 --> 01:36:45,316
And he said, "Well send it back, okay?"
2139
01:36:46,611 --> 01:36:48,177
We said, "Nah, Dave, we're not gonna send that back."
2140
01:36:49,130 --> 01:36:51,053
- It was, "Okay, we can't buy you out,
2141
01:36:52,633 --> 01:36:53,982
"we can't shut you up,
2142
01:36:53,982 --> 01:36:55,513
"let's get the story on the air
2143
01:36:55,513 --> 01:36:58,331
"in a way that we can all agree it will go on the air."
2144
01:36:58,331 --> 01:37:00,763
And we started rewriting and editing with their lawyers.
2145
01:37:01,871 --> 01:37:03,280
- Well during this eight month re-review process
2146
01:37:04,193 --> 01:37:05,026
I say jokingly,
2147
01:37:06,251 --> 01:37:07,843
they did things like
2148
01:37:07,843 --> 01:37:09,353
for example they wanted to take out the word cancer.
2149
01:37:10,443 --> 01:37:12,153
You don't have to identify what the potential problem is,
2150
01:37:13,491 --> 01:37:15,303
but just say human health implications.
2151
01:37:17,150 --> 01:37:18,923
Any criticism of Monsanto or its product,
2152
01:37:19,883 --> 01:37:21,443
they either removed it or minimized it.
2153
01:37:23,022 --> 01:37:24,540
And it was very, very clear I would say
2154
01:37:25,803 --> 01:37:27,193
almost every edit they made to the piece,
2155
01:37:28,580 --> 01:37:29,673
that was the aim.
2156
01:37:29,673 --> 01:37:31,713
- And we'd change this and this and this,
2157
01:37:31,713 --> 01:37:32,923
and then that wasn't good enough.
2158
01:37:32,923 --> 01:37:34,263
"Okay, now change this and this and this.
2159
01:37:35,112 --> 01:37:37,111
"Now change this and this."
2160
01:37:37,111 --> 01:37:38,753
Version after version after version.
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01:37:40,182 --> 01:37:41,083
83 times.
2162
01:37:42,563 --> 01:37:43,612
- 83 times is unheard of.
2163
01:37:44,593 --> 01:37:45,662
It doesn't happen.
2164
01:37:45,662 --> 01:37:47,802
You shouldn't have to rewrite something 83 times.
2165
01:37:47,802 --> 01:37:49,150
Obviously they didn't want to put the thing on the air
2166
01:37:50,282 --> 01:37:51,803
and they were trying to drive us crazy
2167
01:37:51,803 --> 01:37:52,702
and get us to quit
2168
01:37:52,702 --> 01:37:54,809
or wait until the first window in our contract
2169
01:37:54,809 --> 01:37:55,933
so that they could fire us.
2170
01:37:56,803 --> 01:37:58,500
- They in effect announced that they were going to fire us
2171
01:37:58,500 --> 01:37:59,333
for no cause.
2172
01:38:01,380 --> 01:38:03,553
Well this was a little much.
2173
01:38:03,553 --> 01:38:06,561
- And Steve wrote a letter to the lawyer in Atlanta,
2174
01:38:06,561 --> 01:38:08,219
whose name is Carolyn Forrest,
2175
01:38:08,219 --> 01:38:09,731
the Fox corporate lawyer.
2176
01:38:09,731 --> 01:38:10,760
- And I said, "You know, this isn't about
2177
01:38:11,902 --> 01:38:12,933
"being fired for no cause.
2178
01:38:14,321 --> 01:38:17,120
"You're firing us because we refused to put on the air
2179
01:38:18,486 --> 01:38:20,241
"something that we knew and demonstrated
2180
01:38:20,241 --> 01:38:21,751
"to be false and misleading.
2181
01:38:21,751 --> 01:38:23,321
"That's what this is about,
2182
01:38:23,321 --> 01:38:24,662
"and because we put up a fight,
2183
01:38:24,662 --> 01:38:25,495
"because we stood up to this big corporation
2184
01:38:26,559 --> 01:38:27,662
"and we stood up to your editors
2185
01:38:27,662 --> 01:38:28,980
"and we stood up to your lawyers,
2186
01:38:28,980 --> 01:38:29,891
"and we said to you,
2187
01:38:29,891 --> 01:38:30,912
"look there ought to be a principle
2188
01:38:30,912 --> 01:38:31,745
"higher than just making money."
2189
01:38:33,233 --> 01:38:34,633
- And she wrote a letter back and said,
2190
01:38:34,633 --> 01:38:35,466
"You are right.
2191
01:38:35,466 --> 01:38:36,531
"That's exactly what it was.
2192
01:38:36,531 --> 01:38:38,061
"You stood up to us on this story,
2193
01:38:38,061 --> 01:38:39,577
"and that's why we're letting you go."
2194
01:38:41,050 --> 01:38:42,561
Big mistake.
2195
01:38:42,561 --> 01:38:43,550
Big mistake.
2196
01:38:43,550 --> 01:38:44,651
That says retaliation.
2197
01:38:45,931 --> 01:38:47,781
You can't retaliate against employees
2198
01:38:48,721 --> 01:38:50,182
if they're standing up for something
2199
01:38:50,182 --> 01:38:52,290
that they believe is illegal,
2200
01:38:52,290 --> 01:38:53,313
that they don't want to participate in.
2201
01:38:54,491 --> 01:38:56,280
So that gave us the whistleblower status
2202
01:38:57,359 --> 01:38:58,610
that we needed in the state of Florida
2203
01:38:59,521 --> 01:39:01,362
to file a whistleblower claim against our employer.
2204
01:39:03,371 --> 01:39:04,323
- Two or three years later we got to trial.
2205
01:39:05,742 --> 01:39:08,773
Five weeks of testimony led to a jury verdict of $425,000,
2206
01:39:11,241 --> 01:39:12,420
in which the jury determined that
2207
01:39:13,281 --> 01:39:15,081
the story they pressured us to broadcast,
2208
01:39:15,081 --> 01:39:15,914
the story we resisted telling,
2209
01:39:16,942 --> 01:39:18,423
was in fact false, distorted, or slanted.
2210
01:39:19,553 --> 01:39:23,118
(mysterious music)
2211
01:39:23,118 --> 01:39:25,928
- [Narrator] Fox News appealed the verdict.
2212
01:39:25,928 --> 01:39:27,768
Five major news media corporations
2213
01:39:27,768 --> 01:39:29,150
filed briefs with the court
2214
01:39:29,150 --> 01:39:30,808
in support of Fox's appeal.
2215
01:39:30,808 --> 01:39:33,391
(uneasy music)
2216
01:39:35,821 --> 01:39:38,517
- You may recall that Jane Akre, a former reporter here,
2217
01:39:38,517 --> 01:39:40,083
sued Fox 13 in a whistleblower lawsuit,
2218
01:39:41,207 --> 01:39:43,713
claiming she was fired for refusing to distort her report.
2219
01:39:45,418 --> 01:39:47,103
The appeals court today threw that case out,
2220
01:39:47,103 --> 01:39:49,285
saying Miss Akre had no whistleblower claim
2221
01:39:49,285 --> 01:39:50,923
against the station based on news distortion.
2222
01:39:52,565 --> 01:39:54,450
Fox 13 Vice President and General Manager Bob Linger
2223
01:39:55,365 --> 01:39:57,103
says the station has been completely vindicated by the rule.
2224
01:39:59,402 --> 01:40:00,553
- [Narrator] What Fox neglected to report is this.
2225
01:40:02,493 --> 01:40:04,323
Jane sued Fox under Florida's whistleblower statute,
2226
01:40:05,642 --> 01:40:06,880
which protects those who try to prevent others
2227
01:40:08,041 --> 01:40:09,875
from breaking the law,
2228
01:40:10,791 --> 01:40:12,660
but her appeal court judges found that falsifying news
2229
01:40:13,800 --> 01:40:14,633
isn't actually against the law,
2230
01:40:16,280 --> 01:40:18,103
so they denied Jane her whistleblower status,
2231
01:40:19,511 --> 01:40:21,183
overturned the case,
2232
01:40:21,183 --> 01:40:22,782
and withdrew her $425,000 award.
2233
01:40:25,911 --> 01:40:28,210
Canada and Europe have upheld the ban on rBGH,
2234
01:40:30,511 --> 01:40:31,562
yet it remains hidden
2235
01:40:31,562 --> 01:40:33,143
in much of the milk supply of the United States.
2236
01:40:40,789 --> 01:40:42,059
The prospect that two thirds of the world's population
2237
01:40:42,969 --> 01:40:45,150
will have no access to fresh drinking water by 2025
2238
01:40:46,941 --> 01:40:48,268
has provoked the initial confrontations
2239
01:40:48,268 --> 01:40:49,380
in a worldwide battle for control
2240
01:40:50,219 --> 01:40:51,473
over the planet's most basic resource.
2241
01:40:54,868 --> 01:40:57,548
When Bolivia sought to refinance the public water service
2242
01:40:57,548 --> 01:40:58,380
of its third-largest city,
2243
01:40:59,548 --> 01:41:01,153
the World Bank required that it be privatized,
2244
01:41:04,148 --> 01:41:05,760
which is how the Bechtel corporation of San Francisco
2245
01:41:06,919 --> 01:41:08,443
gained control over all of Cochabamba's water,
2246
01:41:10,437 --> 01:41:12,103
even that which fell from the sky.
2247
01:41:58,698 --> 01:42:01,531
(people shouting)
2248
01:42:13,927 --> 01:42:18,537
(chanting in a foreign language)
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01:42:18,537 --> 01:42:19,994
- [Narrator] The price his beleaguered country paid
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01:42:19,994 --> 01:42:21,566
for World Bank loans
2251
01:42:21,566 --> 01:42:23,030
was the privatization of the state oil industry
2252
01:42:24,434 --> 01:42:27,285
and its airline, railroad, electric, and phone companies.
2253
01:42:30,355 --> 01:42:31,670
But the government failed to convince Bolivians
2254
01:42:32,585 --> 01:42:34,443
that water is a commodity like any other.
2255
01:42:58,227 --> 01:42:59,925
(exploding)
2256
01:42:59,925 --> 01:43:02,508
(dogs barking)
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01:43:11,358 --> 01:43:12,216
- [Narrator] Bolivia was determined
2258
01:43:12,216 --> 01:43:13,695
to defend the corporation's right
2259
01:43:13,695 --> 01:43:15,219
to charge families living on $2 a day
2260
01:43:16,558 --> 01:43:18,063
as much as one quarter of their income for water.
2261
01:43:21,237 --> 01:43:22,558
The greater the popular resistance
2262
01:43:22,558 --> 01:43:23,543
to the water privatization scheme,
2263
01:43:24,969 --> 01:43:26,133
the more violent became the standoff.
2264
01:43:27,147 --> 01:43:29,980
(people shouting)
2265
01:43:46,009 --> 01:43:48,592
(tragic music)
2266
01:43:54,665 --> 01:43:56,547
(gunshot firing)
2267
01:43:56,547 --> 01:43:59,380
(water trickling)
2268
01:44:13,599 --> 01:44:15,398
- [Narrator] Transnational corporations have a long
2269
01:44:15,398 --> 01:44:17,563
and dark history of condoning tyrannical governments.
2270
01:44:20,101 --> 01:44:22,219
Is it narcissism that compels them to seek their reflection
2271
01:44:23,059 --> 01:44:25,153
in the regimented structures of fascist regimes?
2272
01:44:26,300 --> 01:44:28,634
(sad music)
2273
01:44:32,562 --> 01:44:34,728
(booming)
2274
01:44:43,860 --> 01:44:44,693
- There was an interesting connection
2275
01:44:44,693 --> 01:44:46,543
between the rise of fascism in Europe
2276
01:44:48,541 --> 01:44:52,333
and the consciousness of politically radical people
2277
01:44:54,261 --> 01:44:56,472
about corporate power,
2278
01:44:56,472 --> 01:44:59,550
because there was a recognition that fascism arose in Europe
2279
01:45:01,632 --> 01:45:03,503
with the help of enormous corporations.
2280
01:45:05,152 --> 01:45:07,693
- Mussolini was greatly admired all across the spectrum.
2281
01:45:08,689 --> 01:45:09,998
Business loved him.
2282
01:45:09,998 --> 01:45:11,389
Investments shot up.
2283
01:45:11,389 --> 01:45:12,300
Incidentally, when Hitler came in in Germany
2284
01:45:13,181 --> 01:45:14,680
the same thing happened there.
2285
01:45:14,680 --> 01:45:15,683
The investments shot up in Germany.
2286
01:45:16,759 --> 01:45:19,190
He had the workforce under control.
2287
01:45:19,190 --> 01:45:21,293
He was getting rid of dangerous left-wing elements.
2288
01:45:22,400 --> 01:45:23,383
Investment opportunities were improving.
2289
01:45:24,530 --> 01:45:25,480
There was no problems.
2290
01:45:25,480 --> 01:45:28,198
These are wonderful countries.
2291
01:45:28,198 --> 01:45:29,200
- I think one of the greatest untold stories
2292
01:45:30,089 --> 01:45:32,181
of the 20th century
2293
01:45:32,181 --> 01:45:34,081
is the collusion between corporations,
2294
01:45:35,160 --> 01:45:37,009
especially in America
2295
01:45:37,009 --> 01:45:37,842
and Nazi Germany,
2296
01:45:39,192 --> 01:45:41,410
first in terms of how the corporations from America
2297
01:45:42,360 --> 01:45:43,530
helped to essentially rebuild Germany
2298
01:45:44,621 --> 01:45:46,293
and support the early Nazi regime,
2299
01:45:48,005 --> 01:45:49,513
and then when the war broke out,
2300
01:45:50,570 --> 01:45:52,593
figured out a way to keep everything going.
2301
01:45:53,472 --> 01:45:55,452
So General Motors was able to keep Opel going.
2302
01:45:56,650 --> 01:45:58,553
Ford was able to keep their thing going.
2303
01:45:59,719 --> 01:46:00,553
And companies like Coca-Cola,
2304
01:46:01,680 --> 01:46:02,513
because they couldn't keep the Coca-Cola going,
2305
01:46:03,699 --> 01:46:05,559
so what they did was they invented Fanta orange
2306
01:46:06,472 --> 01:46:08,139
for the Germans.
2307
01:46:08,139 --> 01:46:10,540
And that's how Coke was able to keep their profits
2308
01:46:11,832 --> 01:46:12,853
coming in to Coca-Cola.
2309
01:46:14,189 --> 01:46:15,022
So when you drink Fanta orange,
2310
01:46:16,021 --> 01:46:17,728
that's the Nazi drink
2311
01:46:17,728 --> 01:46:20,480
that was created so that Coke could continue making money
2312
01:46:21,621 --> 01:46:22,454
while millions of people died.
2313
01:46:24,352 --> 01:46:25,952
- When Hitler came to power in 1933,
2314
01:46:27,101 --> 01:46:29,383
his goal was to dismantle and destroy the Jewish community.
2315
01:46:30,352 --> 01:46:31,790
This was an enterprise so fast
2316
01:46:32,918 --> 01:46:34,303
that it required the resources of a computer.
2317
01:46:35,490 --> 01:46:37,190
But in 1933 there was no computer.
2318
01:46:38,192 --> 01:46:40,483
What there was was the IBM punch card system,
2319
01:46:41,901 --> 01:46:43,851
which controlled and stored information
2320
01:46:45,460 --> 01:46:47,240
based upon the holes that were punched
2321
01:46:47,240 --> 01:46:48,639
in various rows and columns.
2322
01:46:50,608 --> 01:46:52,712
Naturally there was no off-the-shelf software
2323
01:46:52,712 --> 01:46:54,021
as there is today.
2324
01:46:54,021 --> 01:46:55,663
Each application was custom-designed,
2325
01:46:56,600 --> 01:46:58,573
and the engineer had to personally configure it.
2326
01:47:00,941 --> 01:47:01,891
Millions of people,
2327
01:47:03,289 --> 01:47:05,983
of all religions and nationalities and characteristics,
2328
01:47:06,912 --> 01:47:08,952
went through the concentration camp system.
2329
01:47:09,981 --> 01:47:12,350
That's an extraordinary traffic management program
2330
01:47:13,330 --> 01:47:16,680
that required an IBM system in every railroad direction
2331
01:47:18,541 --> 01:47:20,841
and an IBM system in every concentration camp.
2332
01:47:22,490 --> 01:47:25,240
(mourning music)
2333
01:47:29,464 --> 01:47:31,073
- Now this is a typical prisoner card.
2334
01:47:32,362 --> 01:47:33,380
There are little boxes
2335
01:47:33,380 --> 01:47:34,423
where all the information is to be punched in.
2336
01:47:35,352 --> 01:47:36,784
We compare this information
2337
01:47:36,784 --> 01:47:37,933
to the code sheet for concentration camps,
2338
01:47:38,933 --> 01:47:39,862
and here you see Auschwitz is one,
2339
01:47:40,706 --> 01:47:42,306
Buchenwald two, Dachau is three.
2340
01:47:43,562 --> 01:47:44,823
Now what kinds of prisoners were they?
2341
01:47:45,973 --> 01:47:48,373
They could be a Jehovah's Witness for two,
2342
01:47:48,373 --> 01:47:49,206
a homosexual for three,
2343
01:47:50,162 --> 01:47:51,762
communists for six,
2344
01:47:51,762 --> 01:47:52,962
or a Jew would be eight.
2345
01:47:54,053 --> 01:47:55,632
Now what was their status.
2346
01:47:55,632 --> 01:47:56,482
One was released.
2347
01:47:57,722 --> 01:47:59,432
Two was transferred.
2348
01:47:59,432 --> 01:48:00,264
Four was executed.
2349
01:48:01,242 --> 01:48:02,842
Five was suicide.
2350
01:48:02,842 --> 01:48:05,433
And six, code six, Sonderbehandlung,
2351
01:48:07,704 --> 01:48:09,232
special treatment,
2352
01:48:09,232 --> 01:48:11,403
meant the gas chamber or sometimes a bullet.
2353
01:48:13,121 --> 01:48:14,653
They would punch that number in.
2354
01:48:14,653 --> 01:48:16,103
The material was tabulated.
2355
01:48:16,103 --> 01:48:18,023
The machines were set.
2356
01:48:18,023 --> 01:48:20,273
And of course the punch cards by the millions
2357
01:48:22,002 --> 01:48:23,173
had to be printed
2358
01:48:23,173 --> 01:48:25,173
and they were printed exclusively by IBM
2359
01:48:26,213 --> 01:48:28,683
and the profits were recovered just after the war.
2360
01:48:30,681 --> 01:48:33,584
- I really do believe that that particular accusation
2361
01:48:33,584 --> 01:48:36,693
has been fairly discredited as a serious accusation.
2362
01:48:38,344 --> 01:48:40,744
That is, the fact that they have used equipment,
2363
01:48:42,933 --> 01:48:43,766
that is a fact,
2364
01:48:45,002 --> 01:48:45,835
but how they got it,
2365
01:48:45,835 --> 01:48:46,873
how much cooperation they got,
2366
01:48:47,998 --> 01:48:48,990
and any kind of collusion
2367
01:48:49,860 --> 01:48:52,440
trying to connect dots that are not connected,
2368
01:48:52,440 --> 01:48:54,063
I think that's the part that is discredited.
2369
01:48:56,910 --> 01:48:58,380
Generally you sell computers
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and they're used in a variety of ways,
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and you always hope they're used
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in the more positive ways possible.
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01:49:07,510 --> 01:49:09,309
If you ever found out they're used
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01:49:09,309 --> 01:49:10,323
in ways that are not positive,
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01:49:11,880 --> 01:49:14,043
then you would hope that you stop supporting that,
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01:49:16,010 --> 01:49:17,950
but do you always know,
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01:49:17,950 --> 01:49:19,120
can you always tell,
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can you always find out?
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(veiled music)
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IBM would of course say that it had no control
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over its German subsidiary,
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01:49:28,189 --> 01:49:29,739
but here in October 9th of 1941
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a letter is being written directly to Thomas J. Watson
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01:49:34,468 --> 01:49:37,179
with all sorts of detail about the activities
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01:49:37,179 --> 01:49:38,373
of the German subsidiary.
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None of these machines were sold.
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They were all leased by IBM.
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01:49:43,406 --> 01:49:44,782
And they had to be serviced on site once a month,
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01:49:45,629 --> 01:49:47,669
even if that was at a concentration camp,
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01:49:47,669 --> 01:49:49,017
such as Dachau, Buchenwald.
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01:49:49,978 --> 01:49:52,779
This is a typical contract with IBM and the Third Reich,
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01:49:54,208 --> 01:49:55,041
which was instituted in 1942.
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01:49:57,259 --> 01:49:58,898
It's not with the Dutch subsidiary.
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01:49:58,898 --> 01:50:00,163
It's not with the German subsidiary.
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It is with the IBM corporation in New York.
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- You know, as it happens,
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I know that story.
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I discussed it more than once with old Mr. Watson.
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And I was around at the time.
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01:50:17,406 --> 01:50:18,300
I'm not saying that Watson didn't know
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01:50:19,179 --> 01:50:21,379
that the German government used punch cards.
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01:50:22,419 --> 01:50:23,252
He probably did know.
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01:50:24,920 --> 01:50:26,243
After we had very few customers.
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01:50:27,499 --> 01:50:29,000
Watson didn't want to do it,
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01:50:29,000 --> 01:50:31,213
was not because he thought it was immoral or not,
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01:50:32,588 --> 01:50:33,768
but because Watson,
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01:50:33,768 --> 01:50:35,423
with a very keen sense of public relations,
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01:50:36,349 --> 01:50:37,182
thought it was risky.
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- [Narrator] It should not surprise us
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01:50:39,760 --> 01:50:40,639
that corporate allegiance to profits
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01:50:41,487 --> 01:50:42,753
will trump their allegiance to any flag.
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01:50:44,648 --> 01:50:46,010
A recent U.S. Treasury Department report
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01:50:47,168 --> 01:50:48,001
revealed that in one week alone,
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01:50:49,179 --> 01:50:50,630
57 U.S. corporations were fined
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01:50:51,499 --> 01:50:53,343
for trading with official enemies of the United States,
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01:50:54,989 --> 01:50:57,589
including terrorists, tyrants, and despotic regimes.
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01:50:59,308 --> 01:51:01,891
(hidden music)
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01:51:02,873 --> 01:51:05,040
(ticking)
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01:51:06,264 --> 01:51:07,210
- [Man] You can roughly locate any community
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01:51:08,236 --> 01:51:09,523
somewhere along a scale
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01:51:09,523 --> 01:51:12,013
running all the way from democracy to despotism.
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01:51:13,384 --> 01:51:16,050
(aimless music)
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01:51:17,455 --> 01:51:19,463
This man makes it his job to study these things.
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01:51:20,855 --> 01:51:22,516
- Well for one thing,
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01:51:22,516 --> 01:51:25,280
avoid the comfortable idea that the mere form of government
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01:51:26,516 --> 01:51:29,066
can of itself safeguard a nation against despotism.
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(march-like music)
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01:51:33,172 --> 01:51:34,183
- [Narrator] For big business,
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01:51:34,183 --> 01:51:36,074
despotism was often a useful tool
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01:51:36,074 --> 01:51:38,373
for securing foreign markets and pursuing profits.
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01:51:40,183 --> 01:51:41,599
One of the U.S. Marine Corp's
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01:51:41,599 --> 01:51:42,432
most highly decorated generals,
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01:51:43,412 --> 01:51:44,245
Smedley Darlington Butler,
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01:51:45,425 --> 01:51:46,627
by his own account
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01:51:46,627 --> 01:51:48,702
helped pacify Mexico for American oil companies,
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01:51:50,055 --> 01:51:51,323
Haiti and Cuba for National City Bank,
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01:51:52,598 --> 01:51:54,353
Nicaragua for the Brown Brothers brokerage,
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01:51:55,478 --> 01:51:57,083
the Dominican Republic for sugar interests,
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01:51:58,577 --> 01:52:00,073
Honduras for U.S. fruit companies,
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01:52:01,409 --> 01:52:02,423
and China for Standard Oil.
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01:52:05,746 --> 01:52:07,906
General Butler's services were also in demand
2442
01:52:07,906 --> 01:52:09,633
in the United States itself in the 1930s.
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01:52:10,977 --> 01:52:12,798
As President Franklin Delano Roosevelt
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01:52:12,798 --> 01:52:14,380
sought to relieve the misery of the Depression
2445
01:52:16,097 --> 01:52:17,415
through public enterprise
2446
01:52:17,415 --> 01:52:19,499
and tougher regulations on corporate exploitation
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01:52:19,499 --> 01:52:20,582
and misdeeds.
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01:52:21,547 --> 01:52:23,123
- [Narrator] More power to you, President Roosevelt.
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01:52:24,368 --> 01:52:25,227
The entire country's behind you,
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01:52:26,230 --> 01:52:27,713
thrilled with hope and patriotism.
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01:52:29,270 --> 01:52:30,103
- [Narrator] But the country was not
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01:52:30,103 --> 01:52:31,362
entirely behind the populist president.
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01:52:32,841 --> 01:52:33,674
Large parts of the corporate elite
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01:52:34,521 --> 01:52:36,103
despised what Roosevelt's New Deal stood for.
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01:52:38,041 --> 01:52:38,874
And so in 1934
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01:52:40,529 --> 01:52:42,330
a group of conspirators sought to involve General Butler
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01:52:43,410 --> 01:52:45,261
in a treasonous plan.
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01:52:45,261 --> 01:52:46,561
- [Man] The plan as outlined to me
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01:52:46,561 --> 01:52:47,623
was to form an organization of veterans,
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01:52:49,081 --> 01:52:51,441
to use as bluff, or as a club at least,
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01:52:51,441 --> 01:52:53,902
to intimidate the government.
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01:52:53,902 --> 01:52:54,921
- [Narrator] But the corporate cabal
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01:52:54,921 --> 01:52:56,529
had picked the wrong man.
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01:52:56,529 --> 01:52:57,540
Butler was fed up with being what he called
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01:52:58,731 --> 01:53:00,210
a gangster for capitalism.
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(excited brass music)
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- I appear before the congressional committee
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01:53:08,537 --> 01:53:10,469
the highest representation of the American people
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01:53:11,364 --> 01:53:13,753
under subpoena, to tell what I knew of activities,
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01:53:14,687 --> 01:53:16,327
which I believed might lead
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01:53:16,327 --> 01:53:17,862
to an attempt to set up a fascist dictatorship.
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01:53:19,948 --> 01:53:21,585
The upshot of the whole thing was that
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01:53:21,585 --> 01:53:24,130
I was supposed to lead an organization of 500,000 men
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01:53:25,646 --> 01:53:26,817
which would be able to take over
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01:53:26,817 --> 01:53:27,650
the functions of government.
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01:53:30,097 --> 01:53:31,788
- [Narrator] A congressional committee ultimately found
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01:53:31,788 --> 01:53:33,473
evidence of a plot to overthrow Roosevelt.
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01:53:35,228 --> 01:53:36,279
According to Butler
2479
01:53:36,279 --> 01:53:37,750
the conspiracy included representatives
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01:53:38,588 --> 01:53:39,963
of some of America's top corporations,
2481
01:53:41,295 --> 01:53:43,645
including JP Morgan, DuPont, and Goodyear Tire.
2482
01:53:44,788 --> 01:53:47,705
(mysterious music)
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01:53:49,701 --> 01:53:51,093
As today's chairman of Goodyear Tire knows,
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01:53:52,320 --> 01:53:53,163
for corporations to dominate government,
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01:53:54,540 --> 01:53:55,862
a coup is no longer necessary.
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01:53:57,719 --> 01:53:58,553
- Corporations have gone global,
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01:53:59,779 --> 01:54:00,612
and by going global,
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01:54:01,699 --> 01:54:05,393
the governments have lost some control over corporations.
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01:54:06,811 --> 01:54:09,192
Regardless of whether the corporation can be trusted
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01:54:09,192 --> 01:54:10,760
or cannot be trusted,
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01:54:10,760 --> 01:54:13,309
governments today do not have over the corporations
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01:54:14,971 --> 01:54:16,731
the power that they had,
2493
01:54:16,731 --> 01:54:19,282
and the leverage that they had 50 or 60 years ago.
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01:54:20,781 --> 01:54:22,150
And that's a major change.
2495
01:54:22,150 --> 01:54:23,950
So governments have become powerless
2496
01:54:25,050 --> 01:54:26,750
compared to what they were before.
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01:54:28,300 --> 01:54:30,433
- Capitalism today commands the towering heights,
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01:54:31,691 --> 01:54:34,501
and has displaced politics and politicians
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01:54:34,501 --> 01:54:35,334
as the new high priests,
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01:54:36,230 --> 01:54:37,743
and reigning oligarchs of our system.
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01:54:38,843 --> 01:54:42,003
So capitalism and its principle protagonists and players,
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01:54:43,061 --> 01:54:43,894
corporate CEOs,
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01:54:44,952 --> 01:54:47,303
have been accorded unusual power and access.
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01:54:49,072 --> 01:54:50,762
This is not to deny the significance
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01:54:50,762 --> 01:54:52,261
of government and politicians,
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01:54:52,261 --> 01:54:53,972
but these are the new high priests.
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01:54:53,972 --> 01:54:56,555
(spooky music)
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01:54:57,994 --> 01:54:59,480
- I was invited to Washington, D.C
2509
01:55:00,325 --> 01:55:01,834
to attend this meeting
2510
01:55:01,834 --> 01:55:03,880
that was being put together by the National Security Agency
2511
01:55:04,816 --> 01:55:05,963
called the Critical Thinking Consortium.
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01:55:07,744 --> 01:55:09,565
I remember standing there in this room
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01:55:09,565 --> 01:55:11,615
and looking over on one side of the room,
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01:55:12,582 --> 01:55:17,582
and we had CIA, NSA, DIA, FBI, Customs, Secret Service,
2515
01:55:21,165 --> 01:55:22,400
and then on the other side of the room we had
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01:55:24,314 --> 01:55:26,862
Coca Cola, Mobile Oil, GTE and Kodak.
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01:55:28,764 --> 01:55:31,173
And I remember thinking, "I am in the epicenter
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01:55:31,173 --> 01:55:33,223
"of the intelligence industry right now."
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01:55:34,263 --> 01:55:36,053
I mean, the line is not just blurring.
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01:55:36,893 --> 01:55:37,726
It's just not there anymore.
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01:55:40,253 --> 01:55:41,290
And to me it spoke volumes
2522
01:55:42,160 --> 01:55:44,690
as to how industry and government
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01:55:46,271 --> 01:55:48,563
were consulting with each other and working with each other.
2524
01:55:49,541 --> 01:55:52,041
(empty music)
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01:56:00,987 --> 01:56:02,627
(helicopter whirring)
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01:56:02,627 --> 01:56:04,588
- [Narrator] As 34 nations of the Western Hemisphere
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01:56:04,588 --> 01:56:06,193
gathered to draft a far-reaching trade agreement,
2528
01:56:07,388 --> 01:56:08,625
one that would lay the groundwork
2529
01:56:08,625 --> 01:56:10,723
to privatize every resource and service imaginable,
2530
01:56:12,025 --> 01:56:12,905
thousands of people
2531
01:56:12,905 --> 01:56:14,139
from hundreds of grassroots organizations
2532
01:56:15,273 --> 01:56:16,941
joined to oppose it.
2533
01:56:18,476 --> 01:56:19,309
Canada's top business lobbyists
2534
01:56:20,324 --> 01:56:21,157
and its chief trade representative
2535
01:56:22,174 --> 01:56:23,183
discount the dissent in the streets.
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01:56:24,724 --> 01:56:26,924
For them, the Americas' 800 million citizens
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01:56:27,914 --> 01:56:28,746
speak with one voice.
2538
01:57:33,657 --> 01:57:36,157
(eerie music)
2539
01:57:54,278 --> 01:57:55,163
- I'm inside, and this is all outside,
2540
01:57:55,998 --> 01:57:57,823
so that's, uh, that's the way it is.
2541
01:58:04,996 --> 01:58:05,883
- [Mark] So what do you think when you look at all this?
2542
01:58:07,769 --> 01:58:09,096
- Well, it's uh, I mean,
2543
01:58:09,096 --> 01:58:11,423
I think that it's too bad that this has, uh,
2544
01:58:12,776 --> 01:58:13,728
that this has erupted.
2545
01:58:13,728 --> 01:58:16,646
(aggressive music)
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01:58:20,726 --> 01:58:21,559
Merci.
2547
01:58:21,559 --> 01:58:22,646
(gunshot fires)
2548
01:58:22,646 --> 01:58:25,146
(angry music)
2549
01:58:33,585 --> 01:58:36,252
(gunshot fires)
2550
01:58:40,264 --> 01:58:41,098
(glass shattering)
2551
01:58:41,098 --> 01:58:43,931
(people laughing)
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01:58:51,206 --> 01:58:52,823
Does there need to be some measure of accountability?
2553
01:58:53,683 --> 01:58:54,516
Yes.
2554
01:58:55,526 --> 01:58:56,813
And I think the business community recognizes that.
2555
01:58:57,904 --> 01:58:59,403
But that accountability is in the marketplace.
2556
01:59:00,465 --> 01:59:01,298
It's with their shareholders.
2557
01:59:02,366 --> 01:59:03,780
It's with the public perception and the public image
2558
01:59:04,737 --> 01:59:06,820
that they are projecting.
2559
01:59:07,808 --> 01:59:10,213
If companies don't do what they should be doing,
2560
01:59:11,558 --> 01:59:12,391
they're going to be punished in the marketplace,
2561
01:59:13,230 --> 01:59:14,063
and that's not what any company wants.
2562
01:59:17,758 --> 01:59:18,897
- There's a new market.
2563
01:59:18,897 --> 01:59:19,950
These guys and gals aren't out there
2564
01:59:20,995 --> 01:59:22,893
because government's putting a gun to their head.
2565
01:59:24,137 --> 01:59:26,777
Or because they've suddenly read a book
2566
01:59:26,777 --> 01:59:29,823
about transcendental meditation and global morality.
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01:59:32,118 --> 01:59:33,403
- My inner voice says honor my inner child.
2568
01:59:34,266 --> 01:59:35,099
- Mine says love everyone.
2569
01:59:36,615 --> 01:59:37,644
- My inner voice says
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01:59:37,644 --> 01:59:38,580
I'd like a Wendy's bacon mushroom melt.
2571
01:59:40,014 --> 01:59:41,100
- They're there because they understand
2572
01:59:42,266 --> 01:59:43,753
the market requires them to be there,
2573
01:59:44,826 --> 01:59:46,353
that there's competitive advantage to be there.
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01:59:47,375 --> 01:59:48,373
- I'm listening to your concerns.
2575
01:59:49,234 --> 01:59:50,523
I worry about climate.
2576
01:59:50,523 --> 01:59:52,106
I worry about pollution.
2577
01:59:52,106 --> 01:59:53,313
I do not have all the answers to this,
2578
01:59:54,255 --> 01:59:56,853
but we are prepared to work with you, with society,
2579
01:59:58,052 --> 01:59:59,862
with NGOs, with governments to address it.
2580
02:00:00,892 --> 02:00:01,953
So you rebuild the trust,
2581
02:00:02,981 --> 02:00:05,231
so that you come back to a new kind of trust,
2582
02:00:06,602 --> 02:00:07,930
and then the ultimate goal
2583
02:00:09,442 --> 02:00:11,033
is then to become the corporation of choice.
2584
02:00:13,090 --> 02:00:14,282
- [Narrator] He believes that almost half our energy
2585
02:00:14,282 --> 02:00:15,773
can one day come from renewable sources.
2586
02:00:17,954 --> 02:00:19,093
He's been called a dreamer and a crank.
2587
02:00:21,463 --> 02:00:24,212
- And I've been called a hippie.
2588
02:00:24,212 --> 02:00:27,057
- [Narrator] And more recently, a Project Manager for Shell.
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02:00:30,445 --> 02:00:31,520
- I ask myself oftentimes
2590
02:00:32,845 --> 02:00:34,500
why so many companies subscribe
2591
02:00:35,866 --> 02:00:36,903
to corporate social responsibility.
2592
02:00:40,313 --> 02:00:41,146
I'm not sure it's because they
2593
02:00:42,793 --> 02:00:45,493
necessarily want to be responsible in an ultimate way,
2594
02:00:47,108 --> 02:00:49,008
but because they want to be identified
2595
02:00:50,462 --> 02:00:51,812
and seen to be responsible.
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02:00:53,854 --> 02:00:54,687
But who am I to judge?
2597
02:00:56,145 --> 02:00:56,978
Who am I to judge?
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02:00:58,012 --> 02:00:59,213
It's better they belong than not belong.
2599
02:01:00,793 --> 02:01:03,100
It's better that they make some public profession
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02:01:04,273 --> 02:01:05,423
than the opposite.
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02:01:07,533 --> 02:01:09,633
- Social responsibility isn't a deep shift
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02:01:10,593 --> 02:01:13,703
because it's a voluntary tactic.
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02:01:16,105 --> 02:01:19,880
A tactic, a reaction to a certain market at this point.
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02:01:22,606 --> 02:01:25,206
And as the corporation reads the market differently,
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02:01:26,585 --> 02:01:28,183
it can go back.
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02:01:28,183 --> 02:01:30,633
One day you see Bambi, next day you see Godzilla.
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02:01:31,798 --> 02:01:33,140
(smashing)
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02:01:33,140 --> 02:01:34,273
- How do you define socially responsible?
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02:01:35,441 --> 02:01:37,012
What business is it of the corporation
2610
02:01:37,012 --> 02:01:38,863
to decide what's socially responsible?
2611
02:01:39,921 --> 02:01:40,783
That isn't their expertise.
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02:01:41,748 --> 02:01:44,283
That isn't what their stockholders ask them to do.
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02:01:46,030 --> 02:01:47,423
So I think they're going out of their range,
2614
02:01:49,150 --> 02:01:50,293
and it certainly is not democratic.
2615
02:01:52,881 --> 02:01:54,268
- I don't really care
2616
02:01:54,268 --> 02:01:55,680
what the Chairman of General Motors thinks
2617
02:01:56,820 --> 02:01:58,150
is an appropriate level of emissions
2618
02:01:59,009 --> 02:02:01,273
to come out the tailpipe of General Motors automobiles.
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02:02:02,618 --> 02:02:04,060
He may have a lot of scientists,
2620
02:02:04,060 --> 02:02:04,893
he may be a very good person,
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02:02:05,870 --> 02:02:07,340
but I didn't elect him to anything,
2622
02:02:07,340 --> 02:02:08,303
he doesn't have any power to speak for me.
2623
02:02:10,240 --> 02:02:11,770
These are decisions that must be made by government
2624
02:02:12,608 --> 02:02:13,441
and not by corporations.
2625
02:02:15,261 --> 02:02:16,869
- You take this to its logical conclusion,
2626
02:02:16,869 --> 02:02:19,793
one would have an image that we are in fact at this,
2627
02:02:21,251 --> 02:02:22,260
the end of the world is nigh
2628
02:02:23,139 --> 02:02:25,620
and we are all completely brainwashed
2629
02:02:26,887 --> 02:02:28,620
and there is no space left.
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02:02:28,620 --> 02:02:30,420
And I don't believe we're there yet.
2631
02:02:33,840 --> 02:02:35,496
And I think it's really important
2632
02:02:35,496 --> 02:02:37,339
that we don't overstate the case,
2633
02:02:37,339 --> 02:02:39,680
and that we admit that there are cracks and fissures
2634
02:02:39,680 --> 02:02:41,640
in all of these corporate structures.
2635
02:02:41,640 --> 02:02:44,486
And sometimes when a corporation is concentrating
2636
02:02:44,486 --> 02:02:46,288
on one particular project
2637
02:02:46,288 --> 02:02:47,121
they look the other way
2638
02:02:47,121 --> 02:02:48,633
and all kinds of interesting things happen in the corner.
2639
02:02:51,389 --> 02:02:53,208
- It is the case in every period of history
2640
02:02:53,208 --> 02:02:55,763
where injustice based on falsehoods,
2641
02:02:57,419 --> 02:03:00,069
based on taking away the right and freedoms of people
2642
02:03:01,568 --> 02:03:02,553
to live and survive with dignity,
2643
02:03:03,629 --> 02:03:07,059
that eventually when you call a bluff, the tables turn.
2644
02:03:07,059 --> 02:03:09,892
(contented music)
2645
02:03:21,536 --> 02:03:24,513
- Ultimately capital puts its foot down somewhere.
2646
02:03:26,056 --> 02:03:27,670
And anywhere it puts its foot down
2647
02:03:29,296 --> 02:03:30,343
it can be held accountable.
2648
02:03:33,896 --> 02:03:36,253
- Originally Wal-Mart and Kathie Lee Gifford had said,
2649
02:03:37,216 --> 02:03:38,049
"Why should we believe you
2650
02:03:38,049 --> 02:03:39,646
"that children work in this factory?"
2651
02:03:39,646 --> 02:03:41,704
What we didn't tell them was that Wendy Diaz,
2652
02:03:41,704 --> 02:03:43,136
in the center of the picture,
2653
02:03:43,136 --> 02:03:44,656
was on a plane to the United States.
2654
02:03:44,656 --> 02:03:45,824
This is Wendy Diaz.
2655
02:03:45,824 --> 02:03:46,657
She comes to the United States.
2656
02:03:47,566 --> 02:03:48,984
She's unstoppable.
2657
02:03:48,984 --> 02:03:50,180
- [Newscaster] Congress heard testimony today from children
2658
02:03:51,204 --> 02:03:53,793
who testified they were exploited by sweatshops overseas.
2659
02:03:55,016 --> 02:03:57,016
- Kathie Lee Gifford apologized to Wendy Diaz.
2660
02:03:57,016 --> 02:03:58,503
It was the most amazing thing I'd seen.
2661
02:03:58,503 --> 02:04:00,743
This powerful celebrity leans over and says,
2662
02:04:01,995 --> 02:04:03,163
"Wendy, please believe me,
2663
02:04:04,664 --> 02:04:05,573
"I didn't know these conditions existed.
2664
02:04:06,984 --> 02:04:07,817
"And now that I do, I'm gonna work with you,
2665
02:04:08,753 --> 02:04:10,616
"I'm gonna work with these other people,
2666
02:04:10,616 --> 02:04:12,075
"and it'll never happen again."
2667
02:04:12,075 --> 02:04:13,474
And that night we signed an agreement
2668
02:04:13,474 --> 02:04:14,960
with Kathie Lee Gifford.
2669
02:04:14,960 --> 02:04:16,573
- I thought it would be a relatively easy process,
2670
02:04:17,531 --> 02:04:18,364
and it isn't.
2671
02:04:18,364 --> 02:04:19,691
And for every question I have,
2672
02:04:19,691 --> 02:04:21,952
there seem to be five questions that come back at me.
2673
02:04:23,200 --> 02:04:24,393
- As far as Walmart goes and Kathie Lee,
2674
02:04:25,320 --> 02:04:26,783
pretty much everything returned to sweatshop conditions.
2675
02:04:28,152 --> 02:04:30,952
But because this was fought out on television for weeks,
2676
02:04:31,941 --> 02:04:33,481
this incident with Kathie Lee Gifford
2677
02:04:33,481 --> 02:04:34,562
actually took the sweatshop issue
2678
02:04:34,562 --> 02:04:35,395
to every single part of the country.
2679
02:04:36,340 --> 02:04:37,523
And so, frankly, after that,
2680
02:04:38,642 --> 02:04:40,072
there's hardly a single person in this country
2681
02:04:40,072 --> 02:04:41,621
who doesn't know about child labor
2682
02:04:41,621 --> 02:04:42,454
or sweatshops or starvation wages.
2683
02:04:43,461 --> 02:04:46,044
(hushed music)
2684
02:05:02,810 --> 02:05:06,010
- So what we need to do is to look at the very roots
2685
02:05:08,060 --> 02:05:10,783
of the legal form that created this beast,
2686
02:05:12,560 --> 02:05:15,110
and we need to think who can hold them accountable.
2687
02:05:16,392 --> 02:05:17,383
- They're not graven in stone.
2688
02:05:18,560 --> 02:05:20,160
They can be dismantled.
2689
02:05:20,160 --> 02:05:21,880
In fact, most states have laws
2690
02:05:23,821 --> 02:05:25,613
which require that they be dismantled.
2691
02:05:27,851 --> 02:05:30,620
- For too long now, giant corporations have been allowed
2692
02:05:31,591 --> 02:05:33,960
to undermine democracy here in the United States
2693
02:05:33,960 --> 02:05:35,440
and all over the world.
2694
02:05:35,440 --> 02:05:36,840
But today, the National Lawyers Guild
2695
02:05:36,840 --> 02:05:38,893
and 29 other groups and individuals are fighting back.
2696
02:05:41,101 --> 02:05:43,670
We are calling upon State Attorney General Dan Lundgren
2697
02:05:44,600 --> 02:05:45,780
to comply with California law
2698
02:05:47,000 --> 02:05:48,020
and to revoke the corporate charter
2699
02:05:49,200 --> 02:05:50,310
of the Union Oil Company of California
2700
02:05:51,499 --> 02:05:53,480
for its repeated and grievous offenses.
2701
02:05:53,480 --> 02:05:55,699
(people applauding)
2702
02:05:55,699 --> 02:05:56,532
- This is a statute that is well known.
2703
02:05:57,411 --> 02:05:58,379
It has been used.
2704
02:05:58,379 --> 02:05:59,617
It can be used.
2705
02:05:59,617 --> 02:06:01,291
What this will mean is the dissolution
2706
02:06:01,291 --> 02:06:03,191
of the Union Oil Company of California
2707
02:06:04,790 --> 02:06:06,660
the sale of its assets under careful court orders
2708
02:06:08,081 --> 02:06:09,623
to others who will carry on the public interest.
2709
02:06:10,620 --> 02:06:13,399
(dramatic music)
2710
02:06:13,399 --> 02:06:14,723
- This is nothing more than just a smear campaign.
2711
02:06:15,649 --> 02:06:18,628
This company has been part of California's economy
2712
02:06:18,628 --> 02:06:20,083
for over 100 years, thousands of jobs.
2713
02:06:21,189 --> 02:06:22,799
Doesn't mean it's never made any mistakes,
2714
02:06:22,799 --> 02:06:23,819
paid for those mistakes.
2715
02:06:23,819 --> 02:06:24,733
But this demonizing of a company,
2716
02:06:25,660 --> 02:06:27,271
I think I'm in a time warp or something,
2717
02:06:27,271 --> 02:06:29,649
that I fell asleep and I woke up 50 years ago
2718
02:06:29,649 --> 02:06:31,031
when we heard that kind of rhetoric.
2719
02:06:31,031 --> 02:06:33,747
- Well we have a very, very broad set of people angry--
2720
02:06:34,671 --> 02:06:35,504
- It's a broad set-- - Very angry
2721
02:06:35,504 --> 02:06:36,337
at this corporation. - Of people from
2722
02:06:36,337 --> 02:06:37,439
the left of the spectrum
2723
02:06:37,439 --> 02:06:39,073
who don't produce anything except hot air.
2724
02:06:40,319 --> 02:06:43,500
- From its complicity in unspeakable human rights violations
2725
02:06:43,500 --> 02:06:44,950
overseas against women, gays,
2726
02:06:46,231 --> 02:06:47,263
laborers, and indigenous peoples,
2727
02:06:48,358 --> 02:06:50,180
to its efforts to subvert U.S. foreign policy
2728
02:06:51,020 --> 02:06:53,493
and deceive the courts, the public and its own stockholders,
2729
02:06:54,900 --> 02:06:56,850
Unocal is emblematic of corporate abuse
2730
02:06:58,391 --> 02:06:59,263
and corporate power run amok.
2731
02:07:00,249 --> 02:07:01,700
(people applauding)
2732
02:07:01,700 --> 02:07:04,783
- Extending a business deal with Burma Army is immoral.
2733
02:07:07,129 --> 02:07:08,829
Unocal cannot do business in Burma
2734
02:07:10,575 --> 02:07:12,713
without supporting that hopeless regime.
2735
02:07:14,900 --> 02:07:15,929
It cannot justify.
2736
02:07:15,929 --> 02:07:18,429
(eerie music)
2737
02:07:24,580 --> 02:07:25,580
- The curse for me has been
2738
02:07:25,580 --> 02:07:29,023
the fact that in making these documentary films,
2739
02:07:30,756 --> 02:07:32,783
I've seen that they actually can impact change,
2740
02:07:33,719 --> 02:07:35,273
so I'm just compelled to just keep making them.
2741
02:07:36,537 --> 02:07:37,833
Yep, that's me, doing what I do.
2742
02:07:39,236 --> 02:07:40,843
All year long I give big companies a hard time,
2743
02:07:41,956 --> 02:07:44,140
but at Christmas time I like to set aside my differences
2744
02:07:45,015 --> 02:07:46,515
and reach out to big business,
2745
02:07:47,377 --> 02:07:48,210
like cigarette companies.
2746
02:07:53,788 --> 02:07:56,765
โช Deck the halls with boughs of holly โช
2747
02:07:56,765 --> 02:08:00,207
โช Fa la la la la la la la la โช
2748
02:08:00,207 --> 02:08:02,007
- I went to Littleton, Colorado,
2749
02:08:02,007 --> 02:08:03,723
where the Columbine shooting took place.
2750
02:08:05,428 --> 02:08:06,952
and I didn't know this, but when I arrived,
2751
02:08:07,916 --> 02:08:09,566
I learned what the primary job is
2752
02:08:11,087 --> 02:08:13,213
of the parents of the kids who go to Columbine High School.
2753
02:08:14,156 --> 02:08:15,163
The number one job in Littleton, Colorado:
2754
02:08:16,375 --> 02:08:17,208
they work for Lockheed Martin,
2755
02:08:18,295 --> 02:08:19,353
building weapons of mass destruction.
2756
02:08:21,426 --> 02:08:22,259
But they don't see the connect
2757
02:08:23,127 --> 02:08:24,290
between what they do for a living
2758
02:08:26,015 --> 02:08:27,665
and what their kids do at school.
2759
02:08:28,815 --> 02:08:30,232
Or did at school.
2760
02:08:31,236 --> 02:08:33,906
And so I'm kind of up on my high horse,
2761
02:08:33,906 --> 02:08:34,923
(laughs) thinking about this,
2762
02:08:36,927 --> 02:08:37,760
and I thought, I said to my wife,
2763
02:08:38,636 --> 02:08:41,170
and we both are sons and daughters of auto workers
2764
02:08:42,639 --> 02:08:44,298
in Flint, Michigan,
2765
02:08:44,298 --> 02:08:45,452
there isn't a single one of us back in Flint,
2766
02:08:47,279 --> 02:08:48,112
any of us, including us,
2767
02:08:49,639 --> 02:08:50,472
who ever stopped to think,
2768
02:08:51,727 --> 02:08:52,559
this thing we do for a living,
2769
02:08:53,778 --> 02:08:54,611
the building of automobiles,
2770
02:08:55,778 --> 02:08:56,900
is probably the single biggest reason
2771
02:08:57,965 --> 02:08:58,880
why the polar ice caps are gonna melt
2772
02:09:00,948 --> 02:09:03,283
and end civilization as we know it. (laughs)
2773
02:09:04,216 --> 02:09:05,566
There's no connect between,
2774
02:09:06,788 --> 02:09:09,007
"I'm just an assembler on an assembly line,
2775
02:09:09,007 --> 02:09:09,840
"building a car,"
2776
02:09:09,840 --> 02:09:11,673
which is good for people and society, it moves them around,
2777
02:09:12,907 --> 02:09:14,380
But never stop to think about the larger picture
2778
02:09:15,898 --> 02:09:18,063
and the larger responsibility of what we're doing.
2779
02:09:19,346 --> 02:09:20,583
Ultimately, we have to, as individuals,
2780
02:09:21,947 --> 02:09:24,070
accept responsibility for our collective action
2781
02:09:25,279 --> 02:09:27,460
and the larger harm that it causes
2782
02:09:29,994 --> 02:09:31,077
in our world.
2783
02:09:31,967 --> 02:09:33,039
- [Newscaster] Today the first of two
2784
02:09:33,039 --> 02:09:34,508
historic town hall meetings
2785
02:09:34,508 --> 02:09:35,783
will get under way in Arcata, California.
2786
02:09:37,199 --> 02:09:39,849
61% of Arcatans voted in favor of publicly discussing
2787
02:09:40,898 --> 02:09:41,940
whether democracy is even possible
2788
02:09:42,948 --> 02:09:45,047
when large corporations wield so much wealth
2789
02:09:45,047 --> 02:09:46,719
and power under law.
2790
02:09:46,719 --> 02:09:48,207
They also voted to form a committee
2791
02:09:48,207 --> 02:09:49,965
to ensure democratic control
2792
02:09:49,965 --> 02:09:51,337
over corporations in Arcata.
2793
02:09:52,447 --> 02:09:53,520
- Corporations are not accountable
2794
02:09:54,367 --> 02:09:55,868
to the democratic process.
2795
02:09:55,868 --> 02:09:57,370
That's what this is about.
2796
02:09:57,370 --> 02:09:58,788
I don't want to make decisions
2797
02:09:58,788 --> 02:10:00,668
about everything that goes on in their corporation,
2798
02:10:00,668 --> 02:10:02,368
but I do have a strong belief that
2799
02:10:03,570 --> 02:10:05,439
they need to be held accountable to us.
2800
02:10:05,439 --> 02:10:07,599
(crowd applauds and cheers)
2801
02:10:07,599 --> 02:10:08,432
- If we don't like certain products,
2802
02:10:09,377 --> 02:10:11,937
like Pepsi-Cola or Bank of America,
2803
02:10:11,937 --> 02:10:14,617
if you don't like what they do, don't use 'em.
2804
02:10:14,617 --> 02:10:16,853
That's the way I see the people's power is.
2805
02:10:18,919 --> 02:10:20,095
- You have a lot more money than me.
2806
02:10:20,095 --> 02:10:20,928
You have more votes than I do.
2807
02:10:22,166 --> 02:10:25,023
If we use the model of boycott and voting with your dollars.
2808
02:10:26,169 --> 02:10:27,793
That's an undemocratic situation.
2809
02:10:28,769 --> 02:10:29,929
- What are we afraid of?
2810
02:10:29,929 --> 02:10:31,868
I mean, are all the businesses gonna leave Arcata?
2811
02:10:31,868 --> 02:10:32,769
I don't think so.
2812
02:10:32,769 --> 02:10:35,679
And if they did, we'd deal with it or we'd figure it out
2813
02:10:35,679 --> 02:10:36,908
or we'd do something different.
2814
02:10:36,908 --> 02:10:38,300
We're creative people.
2815
02:10:38,300 --> 02:10:39,133
I just don't see why we're afraid!
2816
02:10:40,719 --> 02:10:42,399
- If you think it's tough making a decision
2817
02:10:42,399 --> 02:10:44,036
where to buy your stuff today,
2818
02:10:44,036 --> 02:10:46,591
how tough to you think it is when there's only one provider,
2819
02:10:46,591 --> 02:10:48,791
and it's the State.
2820
02:10:48,791 --> 02:10:49,996
And by the way, you don't get to have
2821
02:10:49,996 --> 02:10:52,433
this little democracy forum in those communities either.
2822
02:10:53,639 --> 02:10:54,753
- People that say that they fear their government,
2823
02:10:56,191 --> 02:10:57,280
I really hope that they understand
2824
02:10:58,279 --> 02:11:00,133
that they're allowed to participate in their government.
2825
02:11:00,991 --> 02:11:02,318
They're not allowed to participate
2826
02:11:02,318 --> 02:11:03,353
in anything the corporations do.
2827
02:11:04,428 --> 02:11:05,827
So don't fear the government.
2828
02:11:05,827 --> 02:11:07,183
Help it be the government that you won't fear.
2829
02:11:08,804 --> 02:11:09,700
- If this many people around the country would do this
2830
02:11:10,557 --> 02:11:11,390
instead of watching Superbowl Sunday,
2831
02:11:12,508 --> 02:11:14,324
our nation would be controlled by the people,
2832
02:11:14,324 --> 02:11:16,425
not by the corporations.
2833
02:11:16,425 --> 02:11:17,380
- No more chain restaurants in Arcata
2834
02:11:18,436 --> 02:11:20,075
after a long awaited decision.
2835
02:11:20,075 --> 02:11:22,992
(thoughtful music)
2836
02:11:38,614 --> 02:11:41,473
- Over the past decade we have been gaining ground.
2837
02:11:43,275 --> 02:11:44,720
And when I say we, I mean ordinary people
2838
02:11:45,814 --> 02:11:48,014
committed to the welfare of all of humanity.
2839
02:11:49,806 --> 02:11:52,083
All people irrespective of gender and class
2840
02:11:52,083 --> 02:11:53,792
and race and religion.
2841
02:11:53,792 --> 02:11:54,625
All species on the planet.
2842
02:11:55,883 --> 02:11:57,930
We managed to take the biggest government
2843
02:11:59,054 --> 02:12:01,270
and one of the largest chemical companies to court
2844
02:12:02,312 --> 02:12:03,471
on the case of neem,
2845
02:12:03,471 --> 02:12:05,054
and win a case against them.
2846
02:12:05,054 --> 02:12:07,452
(shouting in a foreign language)
2847
02:12:07,452 --> 02:12:09,214
- [Vandana] W.R. Grace and the U.S. government's
2848
02:12:09,214 --> 02:12:10,312
patent on neem
2849
02:12:10,312 --> 02:12:11,240
was revoked by a case we brought
2850
02:12:12,184 --> 02:12:14,326
along with the Greens of European Parliament
2851
02:12:14,326 --> 02:12:16,133
and the International Organic Agriculture Movement.
2852
02:12:17,363 --> 02:12:18,196
We won because we worked together.
2853
02:12:23,795 --> 02:12:25,809
- We have overturned nearly 99%
2854
02:12:26,653 --> 02:12:27,880
of the basmati patent of RiceTek,
2855
02:12:29,023 --> 02:12:31,463
again, because we worked as a worldwide coalition,
2856
02:12:32,795 --> 02:12:34,393
old women in Texas,
2857
02:12:34,393 --> 02:12:35,845
scientists in India,
2858
02:12:35,845 --> 02:12:37,395
activists sitting in Vancouver,
2859
02:12:38,365 --> 02:12:39,198
a little basmati action group.
2860
02:12:41,395 --> 02:12:43,702
We stopped the Third World being viewed as the pirate,
2861
02:12:44,664 --> 02:12:45,763
and we showed the corporations were the pirate.
2862
02:12:46,791 --> 02:12:49,291
(misty music)
2863
02:12:54,419 --> 02:12:55,380
Look how little it took for Gandhi
2864
02:12:57,009 --> 02:12:59,474
to work against the salt laws of the British,
2865
02:12:59,474 --> 02:13:01,221
where the British decided the way
2866
02:13:01,221 --> 02:13:03,240
they would make their armies and police forces bigger
2867
02:13:04,288 --> 02:13:05,121
is just tax the salt.
2868
02:13:05,991 --> 02:13:07,553
And all that Gandhi did was walk to the beach,
2869
02:13:08,551 --> 02:13:10,061
pick up the salt,
2870
02:13:10,061 --> 02:13:11,962
and say, "Nature gives it for free.
2871
02:13:11,962 --> 02:13:12,795
"We need it.
2872
02:13:12,795 --> 02:13:13,628
"We've always made it.
2873
02:13:13,628 --> 02:13:15,061
"We will violate your laws.
2874
02:13:15,061 --> 02:13:15,894
"We will continue to make salt."
2875
02:13:16,751 --> 02:13:20,381
We've had a similar commitment for the last decade in India,
2876
02:13:20,381 --> 02:13:22,731
that any law that makes it illegal to save seed
2877
02:13:24,191 --> 02:13:25,024
is a law not worth following.
2878
02:13:27,850 --> 02:13:28,781
We will violate it
2879
02:13:28,781 --> 02:13:30,730
because saving seed is a duty to the earth
2880
02:13:31,861 --> 02:13:34,028
and to future generations.
2881
02:13:35,170 --> 02:13:37,120
We thought it would really be symbolic.
2882
02:13:38,050 --> 02:13:39,241
It is more than symbolic.
2883
02:13:39,241 --> 02:13:40,891
It is becoming a survival option.
2884
02:13:42,641 --> 02:13:44,293
Farmers who grow their own seeds,
2885
02:13:45,711 --> 02:13:46,751
save their own seeds,
2886
02:13:46,751 --> 02:13:47,951
don't buy pesticides,
2887
02:13:47,951 --> 02:13:48,870
have threefold more incomes
2888
02:13:49,951 --> 02:13:51,702
than farmers who are locked into the chemical treadmill,
2889
02:13:52,620 --> 02:13:53,753
depending on Monsanto and Cargill.
2890
02:13:55,181 --> 02:13:58,181
We have managed to create alternatives that work for people.
2891
02:14:00,316 --> 02:14:02,823
- There are many tools for bringing back community.
2892
02:14:04,218 --> 02:14:05,877
But the importance is not the tools.
2893
02:14:05,877 --> 02:14:08,018
I mean, there's litigation, there's legislation,
2894
02:14:08,018 --> 02:14:09,613
there's direct action, there's education,
2895
02:14:10,546 --> 02:14:11,903
boycotts, social investment.
2896
02:14:12,995 --> 02:14:13,827
There's many, many ways
2897
02:14:15,037 --> 02:14:17,452
to address issues of corporate power.
2898
02:14:19,098 --> 02:14:20,167
But in the final analysis,
2899
02:14:20,167 --> 02:14:21,000
what's really important is the vision.
2900
02:14:22,386 --> 02:14:24,266
You have to have a better story.
2901
02:14:24,266 --> 02:14:26,263
Do I know you well enough to call you fellow plunderers?
2902
02:14:28,955 --> 02:14:31,373
There is not an industrial company on earth,
2903
02:14:33,016 --> 02:14:36,733
not an institution of any kind, not mine, not yours,
2904
02:14:38,385 --> 02:14:40,035
not anyone's that is sustainable.
2905
02:14:43,386 --> 02:14:46,704
I stand convicted by me myself alone, not by anyone else,
2906
02:14:46,704 --> 02:14:47,933
as a plunderer of the earth,
2907
02:14:49,007 --> 02:14:50,863
but not by our civilization's definition.
2908
02:14:52,506 --> 02:14:53,603
By our civilization's definition,
2909
02:14:54,597 --> 02:14:56,115
I'm a captain of industry.
2910
02:14:56,115 --> 02:14:57,863
In the eyes of many a kind of modern day hero.
2911
02:14:58,706 --> 02:15:03,007
But really, really, the first industrial revolution
2912
02:15:04,797 --> 02:15:06,247
is flawed, it is not working.
2913
02:15:07,826 --> 02:15:08,826
It is unsustainable.
2914
02:15:10,557 --> 02:15:11,457
It is the mistake,
2915
02:15:13,927 --> 02:15:15,427
and we must move on to another
2916
02:15:16,567 --> 02:15:18,217
and better industrial revolution,
2917
02:15:19,184 --> 02:15:20,423
and get it right this time.
2918
02:15:22,437 --> 02:15:23,270
When I think of what could be
2919
02:15:24,837 --> 02:15:27,880
I visualize an organization of people
2920
02:15:30,327 --> 02:15:31,477
committed to a purpose,
2921
02:15:33,906 --> 02:15:35,556
and the purpose is doing no harm.
2922
02:15:37,258 --> 02:15:40,790
I see a company that has severed the umbilical cord to earth
2923
02:15:42,477 --> 02:15:43,343
for its raw materials,
2924
02:15:44,265 --> 02:15:46,770
taking raw materials that have already been extracted
2925
02:15:48,218 --> 02:15:49,353
and using them over and over again,
2926
02:15:50,567 --> 02:15:52,423
driving that process with renewable energy.
2927
02:15:54,698 --> 02:15:55,778
It is our plan,
2928
02:15:55,778 --> 02:15:58,923
it remains our plan to climb Mount Sustainability.
2929
02:16:01,138 --> 02:16:02,163
That mountain that is higher than Everest.
2930
02:16:03,826 --> 02:16:06,843
Infinitely higher than Everest, far more difficult to scale.
2931
02:16:08,167 --> 02:16:10,610
That point at the top symbolizing
2932
02:16:12,628 --> 02:16:13,938
zero footprint.
2933
02:16:13,938 --> 02:16:16,605
(pensive music)
2934
02:16:22,799 --> 02:16:23,910
- So we got to undo a lot of things
2935
02:16:25,010 --> 02:16:26,900
in order to be smart enough to do this
2936
02:16:26,900 --> 02:16:29,200
really dangerous and risky and difficult work,
2937
02:16:31,423 --> 02:16:32,440
the best way that we possibly can
2938
02:16:33,361 --> 02:16:34,850
and that means people coming together and learning
2939
02:16:35,840 --> 02:16:37,719
and a whole lot of stuff that we just don't know
2940
02:16:38,582 --> 02:16:40,038
that has been driven out of the culture,
2941
02:16:40,038 --> 02:16:40,931
driven out of the society,
2942
02:16:40,931 --> 02:16:42,219
driven out of our minds.
2943
02:16:42,219 --> 02:16:43,293
That to me is the most exciting thing.
2944
02:16:44,142 --> 02:16:45,011
That is happening.
2945
02:16:45,011 --> 02:16:46,063
It's happening all over the world now.
2946
02:18:41,019 --> 02:18:43,686
(aimless music)
2947
02:19:03,370 --> 02:19:04,280
- Sometimes it surprises me
2948
02:19:04,280 --> 02:19:05,112
how effective you can actually be.
2949
02:19:06,754 --> 02:19:07,994
After we beat the Gap
2950
02:19:07,994 --> 02:19:10,005
I walked past these Gap stores and I looked at them
2951
02:19:10,005 --> 02:19:11,915
and I think, my god there's like 2,000 of these stores
2952
02:19:11,915 --> 02:19:12,795
across the country.
2953
02:19:12,795 --> 02:19:13,754
Look at all that concrete,
2954
02:19:13,754 --> 02:19:15,084
look at the glass,
2955
02:19:15,084 --> 02:19:16,053
look at all the staff people,
2956
02:19:16,053 --> 02:19:17,064
look at all the clothing.
2957
02:19:17,064 --> 02:19:19,115
Look at that power.
2958
02:19:19,115 --> 02:19:21,407
You can still reach these companies.
2959
02:19:21,407 --> 02:19:22,313
You can still have an effect.
2960
02:19:52,583 --> 02:19:53,523
- [Richard] We can change the government.
2961
02:19:55,395 --> 02:19:56,813
That's the only way we're gonna redesign,
2962
02:19:57,885 --> 02:20:00,883
rethink, reconstitute what capital and property can do.
2963
02:20:04,376 --> 02:20:05,947
- 15 corporations would like to control
2964
02:20:05,947 --> 02:20:06,780
the conditions of our life,
2965
02:20:07,696 --> 02:20:09,867
and millions of people are saying
2966
02:20:09,867 --> 02:20:10,700
not only do we not need you,
2967
02:20:11,712 --> 02:20:13,216
we can do it better.
2968
02:20:13,216 --> 02:20:15,430
We are going to create systems that nourish the earth
2969
02:20:16,275 --> 02:20:17,935
and nourish human beings.
2970
02:20:17,935 --> 02:20:19,293
And these are not marginal experiments,
2971
02:20:20,136 --> 02:20:22,786
they are the mainstay of large numbers of communities
2972
02:20:23,827 --> 02:20:24,856
across the world.
2973
02:20:24,856 --> 02:20:26,856
That is where the future lies.
2974
02:20:26,856 --> 02:20:27,840
- I've often thought it's very ironic
2975
02:20:28,715 --> 02:20:31,035
that I'm able to do all this and yet what am I on?
2976
02:20:31,035 --> 02:20:31,994
I'm on networks,
2977
02:20:31,994 --> 02:20:33,445
I'm distributed by studios
2978
02:20:33,445 --> 02:20:35,894
that are owned by large corporate entities.
2979
02:20:35,894 --> 02:20:37,010
Now why would they put me out there
2980
02:20:38,867 --> 02:20:41,467
when I am opposed to everything that they stand for?
2981
02:20:42,843 --> 02:20:44,270
And I spend my time on their dime
2982
02:20:45,754 --> 02:20:46,873
opposing what they believe in.
2983
02:20:48,685 --> 02:20:49,518
Okay?
2984
02:20:49,518 --> 02:20:50,351
Well, it's because they don't believe in anything.
2985
02:20:51,416 --> 02:20:52,250
They put me on there because they know
2986
02:20:53,096 --> 02:20:55,795
that there's millions of people that want to see my film
2987
02:20:55,795 --> 02:20:56,814
or watch the TV show,
2988
02:20:56,814 --> 02:20:58,835
and so they're gonna make money.
2989
02:20:58,835 --> 02:21:00,594
And I've been able to get my stuff out there
2990
02:21:00,594 --> 02:21:02,082
because I'm driving my truck
2991
02:21:02,082 --> 02:21:04,012
through this incredible flaw in capitalism.
2992
02:21:05,283 --> 02:21:06,603
The greed flaw.
2993
02:21:06,603 --> 02:21:07,664
The thing that says
2994
02:21:07,664 --> 02:21:09,400
the rich man will sell you the rope to hang himself with
2995
02:21:10,253 --> 02:21:11,163
if he thinks he can make a buck off it.
2996
02:21:12,264 --> 02:21:13,653
Well, I'm the rope.
2997
02:21:13,653 --> 02:21:14,486
I hope.
2998
02:21:14,486 --> 02:21:15,493
I'm part of the rope.
2999
02:21:15,493 --> 02:21:18,193
And they also believe that when people watch my stuff,
3000
02:21:19,073 --> 02:21:21,213
or maybe watch this film, or whatever,
3001
02:21:21,213 --> 02:21:23,702
they think that, "Well, you know what?
3002
02:21:23,702 --> 02:21:24,535
"They'll watch this and they won't do anything,
3003
02:21:25,904 --> 02:21:26,737
"because we've done such a good job of
3004
02:21:27,635 --> 02:21:28,783
"numbing their minds and dumbing them down,
3005
02:21:30,875 --> 02:21:31,893
"they'll never affect.
3006
02:21:31,893 --> 02:21:33,302
"People aren't going to leave the couch
3007
02:21:33,302 --> 02:21:35,075
"and go and do something political."
3008
02:21:35,075 --> 02:21:36,824
They're convinced of that.
3009
02:21:36,824 --> 02:21:37,673
I'm convinced of the opposite.
3010
02:21:38,723 --> 02:21:39,733
I'm convinced that a few people
3011
02:21:39,733 --> 02:21:41,803
are gonna leave this movie theater
3012
02:21:41,803 --> 02:21:44,203
or get up off the couch and go and do something,
3013
02:21:45,471 --> 02:21:47,643
anything to get this world back in our hands.
3014
02:21:48,739 --> 02:21:51,572
(uncertain music)
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