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Don't forget I have
to call the radio show...
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At 11:58.
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No, 38.
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11:38 it's...
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I have to call in
and the thing is at 11:40.
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Hello, everybody.
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Good morning.
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How are you?
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Actually, I never
plan anything.
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I never, like, say,
"Oh, I'm gonna do this,
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I'm gonna do that."
I just...
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It's all very organic.
I just like...
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It comes, it feels right.
I do it.
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As far as doing things
in the night club
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or working with...
Uniting people.
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It's definitely
the most fulfilling...
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I used to like go to
these clubs in Switzerland,
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which were once a month.
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So we would travel
all over the country
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because they were,
like, in Geneva...
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I came to New York,
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I was in the fashion business.
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Ah, I opened the store.
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I wanted to like bring these
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really avant-garde
fashion people to New York
from London.
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I had a fashion show.
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An amazing feeling was
the first time I had
people come together
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to see something
that I created.
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I guess in '86,
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I started a night in the club,
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kind of inspired by Taboo,
Leigh Bowery's club.
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That's really how I got into
this business of doing events.
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And of course, I'm the type
of person doesn't want to sell.
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So I kept adding and adding
events and eventually travel
with the events.
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I had personalities hosting,
had shows,
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I had a son. [chuckles]
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You name it, I had it.
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And I'm still having it.
[chuckles]
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I'm losing my marbles.
I'm like exhausted.
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Um... A favor,
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do you have
any pink, soft pink...
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You're the type
who might have
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a soft pink fishnet
tights for me.
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-Fishnet?
-Yeah. Any soft pink tights?
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They don't have pink.
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I'm excited for the opening.
It's gonna be really cool.
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We have like...
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Fifteen-hundred RSVPs. I mean,
a lot of people don't come
when they RSVP.
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But then a lot of others
do come.
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So, there's probably
gonna be about, just right.
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-[Adam] How many people
are you expecting?
-1,500.
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Ah.
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But a lot will come
and go, you know.
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They just wanna come
and have a look.
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Look in the mirror,
we're here with the pink.
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You know what I don't
like about it?
It's not really pink.
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I know it's pink,
but it's not a pink
that I feel pink in.
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Do you know what I'm saying?
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Maybe the very, very pink
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wouldn't show up, right?
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- This is what I used.
- I don't like this color.
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No, this is exactly what I used.
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- Yeah.
- I used these two.
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Wow, it's quiet.
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Do you have any body paint,
like, what about...
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You seriously wanna
body paint your leg, pink?
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I was just thinking, you know,
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I have...
I'm wearing the pink boots.
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Oh, my God! The chicken,
it's in the oven. Hold on.
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I'm making
a chicken for Bailey.
[chuckles]
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He's coming home
tonight for a minute.
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I'm so happy he's coming.
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He's on the train now.
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Is he coming to the opening?
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Yeah, he's coming for,
like, two hours.
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-Oh, really?
-Thought I could at least make some food.
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Bailey loves rosemary.
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So I throw that in. Okay.
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Back in the oven, bitch.
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I have no idea
why I'm so tired.
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I'm so tired today.
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I didn't think I was
gonna be in New York
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at the Chelsea Hotel doing
what I'm doing right now
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for how many years.
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1981, a long time.
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It's nice.
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But definitely not squiggly.
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I always say that I don't act,
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I don't sing,
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I don't have a good voice
and I'm not a dancer,
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so, I express myself
with looks.
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It's not what it is.
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I hate that.
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A look is whatever
you wanted to be.
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It's like making a sculpture.
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A look is how you wanna
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be viewed,
how you wanna be seen.
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If it's not a statement,
what's the point?
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Too forward.
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I mean, I've spent
thousands and thousands
of hours in front of a mirror.
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It's art to be able
to carry it off, also.
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Now, I do not wanna
walk into a fabulous event,
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not with a wig and a look.
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I think I would feel
less interesting.
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You know, I mean,
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I've never wanted
to fit in with the norm.
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I've never looked for the norm.
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I don't know, maybe
it came from childhood.
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Maybe it's the
Swiss background,
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where everything
was clockwork.
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I don't know how to explain
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why I'm me.
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I haven't thought about it.
It's just how I am.
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I would hear people talk
about Susanne with reverence.
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No one can throw
a party like her,
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no one could
carry on like her,
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no one's personal life
is as interesting as hers,
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When I met Susanne,
she, she would, like,
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travel around the world
with a troupe,
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her troupe of club kids,
DJs, performers.
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And she'd travel around
the world with them,
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and throw parties
and get paid for it.
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I thought that was so cool.
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Who wouldn't want to
live like that?
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And you-- Of course,
you haven't lived,
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until you like, checked into
a hotel with this group.
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We've been looking up to her for
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such a long time.
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Because her parties
are the best.
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When you look at
a night-life legends
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you can kind of categorize
everyone like,
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"Oh, that was an
'80s legend or '90s legend."
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With Susanne,
she's endured for 30 years.
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The way I see Susanne Bartsch
or Warhol...
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There are certain people
who've been
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so important in changing
the culture.
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Their understanding how
to do it in such a way
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as to not only
move it forward,
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but also make it accessible.
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There's a party over here.
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Come on, now.
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Shake it down. Bye.
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All the kids my age,
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who all moved to New York,
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we wanted to
experience Andy Warhol.
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He invented all these
Drag Superstars
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and made them celebrities.
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So from near and far,
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people would come,
change their names
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and wanna become
a Warhol's guard.
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Turn, turn.
Oh, that's beautiful,
that's beautiful, more.
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More, more, more, oh.
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Work it baby,
work it, work it.
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Give me, baby,
give me, give me.
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But most of the
Warhol scene was gone.
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Susanne Bartsch picked up
where Warhol left off.
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In the past six months,
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a new wave of night spots
have opened,
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that are getting
people off their sofa
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and onto the dance floor.
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It's a return to decadence
with a new style.
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The monarch of the
downtown party promoter,
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the role model
for most of the club kids,
Susanne Bartsch.
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Susanne Bartsch
has been dubbed,
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"New York's
Queen of the Night."
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Her occupation, well,
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she puts on parties.
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But they're more
like full-scale
theatrical assaults.
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Every last Thursday of the month
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she turns the Copacabana
into a real-life carnival,
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A drag queen who whips
the crowd of party goers
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into a dancing frenzy.
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It is a message with it all.
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I try to unite people,
break barriers,
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gay, straight,
uptown, downtown,
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drag, businessmen.
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Make people feel good.
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And once, every so often,
when I do a party
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I hope that I achieved that.
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And I think that's
what it's about.
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It can be an art form
just to get inside here.
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In Susanne's world,
it doesn't matter who you are.
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All you have to do
is just dress up.
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That was the
price of admission.
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Just look fabulous.
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Tomorrow night, we're
gonna tell you about
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your guide to being fabulous,
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which is what it takes
these days to get in.
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We'll leave that space
open for the garage and
keep going afterward.
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Yeah, Karim is here.
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Oh, it's cold.
We don't have a coat check,
just so you know.
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Come in.
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Do we have guest list
for my people?
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Oh, muffin, you can go
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in the bathroom
and get ready.
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Do you have any
garbage cans here?
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David.
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Is it too loud...
for you?
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A hair, until it gets busier.
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When I opened my first gym
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I was kind of a kid,
I was in my 20s.
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And all these people
would come to the gym.
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Remember that?
We caught you in that gym.
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This was, like, the age of,
like, supermodels,
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and they were all coming in,
and they were
like Hollywood people.
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Just people from all over,
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like, kind of like celebrity,
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I didn't know what hit me.
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Somebody said,
"Susanne Bartsch is here."
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I knew her from the parties,
but I'd never spoken to her.
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You know...
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Susanne walks
into a room and,
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like, everyone notices her.
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Like, she does not walk
into a room unnoticed.
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She was coming to the gym
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and I said, "you should
let me train you."
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David came and says,
"You know, I really
want to train you.
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I could firm up your butt."
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It's not firm?
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He goes, "I mean,
I can round you more up."
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I said, "I'm yours."
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I had this instant crush.
How could you not?
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I didn't think
I was really for him,
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to work for him, whatever,
thinking he was too young.
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I just liked him a lot.
I-- I was into him.
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Where's Brandon?
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Is Brandon there?
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Where the fuck are you?
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-[Brandon Olson] In the...
-It's 20 past 10.
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-It's not me...
-8:00 here.
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...the people back here.
Okay. Okay.
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You guys are gonna be here
with the black swan.
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Excellent.
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You go with them
and the black swan
for the moment?
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You. Aquaria,
you go over there.
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Uh... Ryan,
you're right here.
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-Here?
-Yeah.
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Hannah, you just stay here.
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You go over there
and knit for a minute.
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Close, yeah.
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You can go over there.
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You guys should work this area 'cause that's where they locate.
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Sophie, you go over there
with Marcia.
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We're doing a red-hot
photo shoot here now.
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Oh, hi, Bill.
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Hey, baby. Thank you
so much for coming.
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-Louise and Terry are around.
-Is this not...
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-Oh, wow.
-This is your crowd.
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Muffin,
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this is a great photographer,
take a picture.
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We're not allowed to swim.
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Guys, you could be like that,
but no swimming.
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No swimming, everybody.
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This is the people
looking at you.
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It's theater.
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So people coming
to the event see it,
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and they have
a visual feast.
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They see things they
may have never seen before.
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They enjoy,
they're inspired.
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It's like going to the opera
or to see a play.
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Gary, I need you to come
back here. Gary.
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When I hire someone,
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I'm drawn to people
that make statements
with their looks.
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I'd like to give a platform
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where people can
express themselves
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and do their art.
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I met Susanne in 1988.
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She was promoting
a club called Sauvage.
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She started hiring me to emcee
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her night at the Copacabana.
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Susanne Bartsch,
ladies and gentlemen.
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Susanne Bartsch was the one
who championed me and said,
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"You have got a future.
You are something special."
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More than any other
time in my life,
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that's when
I needed to hear that.
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Amanda, come!
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I got married when
I had my sex changed.
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And then the marriage didn't
work out and I ran away.
279
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And I was just was
trying to survive,
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and achieve higher gain.
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It was actually the first
nightclub job that I had.
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The first job I got was
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working her door at Sauvage.
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We come from a way
of looking at life
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that is probably very similar.
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We really don't believe
in the bullshit of society.
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Other clubs that I worked at,
they would kinda shame you
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for letting certain people in.
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Susanne never questioned
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who I let in.
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He went to school
for fine arts.
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I am an art school dropout.
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Trying to be noticed
by Susanne
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really made us step our game,
like, with looks and makeup.
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I remember what we wore
that first time,
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and, like, we did not deserve
to be hunched.
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We didn't deserve it. Yeah.
298
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We sort of had to work
to get her attention.
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[Joey Arias] I never did drag
and I hated drag.
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And I remember
Susanne Bartsch said,
301
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"You've got the talent,
use the dress,
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the costume, to push yourself.
303
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Put the heels on
and fucking make it work."
304
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And my whole life
completely changed.
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[Muffinhead] I'm still just...
I'm a fat kid at heart
from outside of LA.
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You know, who just kind of
stumbled into New York City.
307
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I never felt accepted,
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or that I belonged
to any group of people
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in any way.
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Susanne has always accepted
exactly who I am.
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You're part of her ensemble.
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You're part of her
fabulous machine.
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So, it's our job to welcome people.
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That's what I do.
My entire life is this.
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So I might as well
do it really good.
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For her, it was like,
"Are you interesting?
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Are you fun?
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Are you gonna contribute
something to the night?"
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It's this incredible
ecosystem,
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and everything
feeds off itself.
321
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Yeah, I had a great time.
322
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Let's do it.
323
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Get in shape! Work it up!
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Do it to me, baby.
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Shake your booty.
326
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-I've been doing this for a while, so
-Yeah, yeah.
327
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I really, at this point, I trust
Susanne to turn out a good play.
328
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Can you lift me up?
329
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Try to lift up.
330
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Oh, yeah!
331
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David and I split up.
332
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And then, um, David
and I got back together.
333
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And he moved back in.
334
00:16:05,130 --> 00:16:07,257
And then he
moved back out. [chuckles]
335
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It's like a yo-yo.
336
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Susanne and I have
like a karmic connection.
337
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We just connected
in so many ways.
338
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She would have ideas
and then, like,
339
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she'd go out and whatever her idea,
like, she'd go out and do it,
340
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Which is so inspiring for me,
like, I love people like that.
341
00:16:25,859 --> 00:16:28,070
And you can count on her
to be funny, she's just...
342
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I loved her sense of humor.
That's so important, you know.
343
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You can laugh with somebody.
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Um...
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I knew we were having problems when we'd stopped laughing together.
346
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I don't think Susanne ever
347
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anticipated being, like, a wife,
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being a mother.
349
00:16:49,133 --> 00:16:50,342
I'm putting sugar.
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00:16:50,634 --> 00:16:53,303
No, I'll...
351
00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:55,889
You want to sweeten it?
352
00:16:57,474 --> 00:16:59,393
I'm now bringing you Susanne's baby.
353
00:16:59,518 --> 00:17:01,228
When's this...
Baby, when are you due?
354
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February.
End of February.
355
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Who's your daddy?
356
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David Barton.
357
00:17:06,358 --> 00:17:08,444
I don't care what he wants
to do with his life,
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I'm just hoping, in this world,
he'll be doing what he likes to.
359
00:17:11,989 --> 00:17:13,991
I think I was supposed
to be a housewife.
360
00:17:14,283 --> 00:17:16,326
And children,
I'm out doing it, finally.
361
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But not the housewife.
362
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I'll just do the baby.
363
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Wow!
364
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Look at my little man.
365
00:17:24,251 --> 00:17:25,961
We're inside this thing.
366
00:17:26,587 --> 00:17:27,880
Where's everybody?
367
00:17:28,464 --> 00:17:29,548
Where's Bailey?
368
00:17:30,049 --> 00:17:31,341
Here he is.
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Yeah, we're hiding and seeking.
370
00:17:41,435 --> 00:17:43,103
Bailey, let's get
a photo with your mom.
371
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I love you so much.
372
00:17:47,191 --> 00:17:49,193
How are you feeling?
Did you try the chicken?
373
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I'm so...
The chicken was delicious.
374
00:17:53,238 --> 00:17:55,491
I really don't go to
most of her parties.
375
00:17:56,325 --> 00:17:58,786
You know. It's hard
for me to like...
376
00:18:00,412 --> 00:18:02,372
...do 'em. Both of my parents
are really good at it.
377
00:18:02,456 --> 00:18:03,916
And just like give that
378
00:18:05,417 --> 00:18:07,127
sort of energy
that they're getting
379
00:18:07,211 --> 00:18:08,462
back from someone or, like,
380
00:18:08,545 --> 00:18:11,131
to raise someone's
energy level like that.
381
00:18:12,674 --> 00:18:14,134
Hi. Hi.
382
00:18:16,261 --> 00:18:17,596
Yeah, I want to have a drink.
383
00:18:17,888 --> 00:18:19,056
What would you like?
384
00:18:19,848 --> 00:18:20,933
A vodka soda.
385
00:18:21,767 --> 00:18:22,976
We have a lot of vodka.
386
00:18:23,227 --> 00:18:24,853
-Oh, great.
-Hey, baby.
387
00:18:25,020 --> 00:18:26,271
Susanne, look straight at me.
388
00:18:27,147 --> 00:18:28,565
I go to Brown University.
389
00:18:28,774 --> 00:18:29,858
I study classics,
390
00:18:29,983 --> 00:18:33,070
specifically, Latin
and the Roman Empire.
391
00:18:37,491 --> 00:18:39,535
My parents, they're
just people who have
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00:18:39,618 --> 00:18:42,162
unconventional lifestyles,
which I recognized.
393
00:18:42,704 --> 00:18:44,665
But as parents,
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they were standard.
395
00:18:46,416 --> 00:18:48,669
Brush your teeth.
Go to bed on time.
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In their, like, domains,
which is her parties
397
00:18:55,843 --> 00:18:57,052
or in my dad's gym.
398
00:18:57,219 --> 00:19:00,889
Like, those are the places
where I do feel like
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00:19:01,056 --> 00:19:02,683
their shadows are long.
400
00:19:04,434 --> 00:19:06,061
It wasn't about pushing me
401
00:19:06,145 --> 00:19:09,940
into their expectations or molding
me into what they wanted me to be.
402
00:19:10,649 --> 00:19:12,276
They were both
403
00:19:13,318 --> 00:19:15,988
interested in what
I wanted to be.
404
00:19:16,446 --> 00:19:18,198
You know, what does
this child need?
405
00:19:18,907 --> 00:19:21,577
What is his soul
trying to say?
406
00:19:21,910 --> 00:19:24,913
Showing me all the options.
407
00:19:31,670 --> 00:19:33,589
A lot of my childhood
408
00:19:33,672 --> 00:19:35,632
was coming to terms with,
409
00:19:35,966 --> 00:19:37,801
what she does for living
410
00:19:37,885 --> 00:19:40,888
and all the craziness
that surrounds it.
411
00:19:42,556 --> 00:19:44,016
It is weird to be
around Susanne
412
00:19:44,099 --> 00:19:46,727
when she is playing Susanne.
413
00:19:49,855 --> 00:19:52,941
She has different modes
of interacting with people.
414
00:19:53,025 --> 00:19:55,944
She has her
party professional mode
415
00:19:56,028 --> 00:19:58,447
which is like, "Oh,
the oldest friend in the world
416
00:19:58,530 --> 00:19:59,823
has just come out of,
417
00:19:59,907 --> 00:20:01,909
you know, the
darkest corner of the room."
418
00:20:02,284 --> 00:20:04,244
It's not disingenuous,
419
00:20:04,328 --> 00:20:05,996
but, it's her job.
420
00:20:06,079 --> 00:20:07,789
Be friendly and make
people feel good.
421
00:20:09,041 --> 00:20:13,128
Then there's another side
where it's the off switch,
422
00:20:13,378 --> 00:20:16,757
where she can
barely give you
423
00:20:17,591 --> 00:20:19,134
the time of day.
424
00:20:20,177 --> 00:20:22,095
You know, what happens
after you're on? You're off.
425
00:20:22,179 --> 00:20:24,932
And she's, like, has trouble
426
00:20:25,265 --> 00:20:26,600
connecting with people.
427
00:20:28,477 --> 00:20:30,812
But then, there's a Susanne
428
00:20:30,938 --> 00:20:32,439
who's just relaxed,
429
00:20:32,731 --> 00:20:36,652
and I think that's
my favorite Susanne.
430
00:20:37,527 --> 00:20:40,155
So empathetic,
gives such good advice.
431
00:20:41,448 --> 00:20:42,741
I mean, I feel like
that's my mother.
432
00:20:42,824 --> 00:20:43,951
When Susanne
gets dressed up,
433
00:20:44,034 --> 00:20:45,160
she's not my mother, really.
434
00:20:45,244 --> 00:20:48,205
She's sort of a character
that she plays.
435
00:20:52,292 --> 00:20:53,919
She set such a high standard
436
00:20:54,002 --> 00:20:56,255
for how she presents
herself to the world,
437
00:20:56,338 --> 00:21:00,300
that I think appearing
as a normal person
438
00:21:00,676 --> 00:21:03,428
is a source of
vulnerability for her.
439
00:21:03,971 --> 00:21:05,597
She doesn't want
to be normal.
440
00:21:06,098 --> 00:21:08,809
She wants to be
more than that.
441
00:21:56,148 --> 00:21:57,107
Oh, my God.
442
00:21:57,190 --> 00:21:59,026
Okay, Brand. Before we
even do anything
443
00:21:59,109 --> 00:22:01,194
let me show you
all the stuff I have.
444
00:22:01,278 --> 00:22:02,612
-Okay.
-I don't know what we--
445
00:22:02,696 --> 00:22:03,697
How we're gonna do this.
446
00:22:03,780 --> 00:22:05,198
Let's have a look here.
447
00:22:06,908 --> 00:22:09,161
You just need to take them off
the hanger and put them in the box.
448
00:22:09,244 --> 00:22:11,204
Let's put those
over here, and then
449
00:22:11,288 --> 00:22:13,415
record what's in each one.
450
00:22:13,498 --> 00:22:15,250
-Okay.
-Put that on that rack.
451
00:22:15,334 --> 00:22:16,668
Took me a while
452
00:22:17,210 --> 00:22:19,129
to sort of convince her that,
you know what?
453
00:22:19,379 --> 00:22:20,922
Susanne, you have a...
454
00:22:21,048 --> 00:22:23,008
There's a story to tell
about your life.
455
00:22:23,091 --> 00:22:25,761
And she's also-- Strangely,
also a private person.
456
00:22:25,844 --> 00:22:27,220
You know, it took a minute
457
00:22:27,304 --> 00:22:28,388
for me to convince her
458
00:22:28,472 --> 00:22:31,016
to work together
on a museum exhibition
459
00:22:31,141 --> 00:22:33,560
just to show the impact
that she had
460
00:22:33,643 --> 00:22:34,770
and the influence
that she had.
461
00:22:34,853 --> 00:22:37,647
She was inspired by,
and then became muse to,
462
00:22:37,731 --> 00:22:41,318
some of the most important
designers in fashion history.
463
00:22:41,610 --> 00:22:43,695
And this is my queen dress.
464
00:22:43,779 --> 00:22:45,280
The leaf dress here.
465
00:22:45,947 --> 00:22:47,491
Yes, the merkin.
466
00:22:47,657 --> 00:22:49,743
-What I was thinking today--
-The merkin from the Rick Owens.
467
00:22:52,412 --> 00:22:54,706
It's a Vivienne Westwood
sheepskin jacket.
468
00:22:54,873 --> 00:22:56,416
-Oh, okay.
-It's the sheepskin
469
00:22:56,500 --> 00:22:59,002
which is probably in
another bag somewhere.
470
00:22:59,628 --> 00:23:01,338
The wedding veil.
471
00:23:01,421 --> 00:23:02,672
What are you gonna do with that?
472
00:23:02,756 --> 00:23:04,382
Brandon, what about
the fucking veil?
473
00:23:04,883 --> 00:23:07,511
This is the state
of my marriage. [chuckling]
474
00:23:07,636 --> 00:23:08,637
Hey!
475
00:23:08,929 --> 00:23:10,430
Oh, my god.
476
00:23:10,764 --> 00:23:12,641
It's gonna get all
crushed isn't it?
477
00:23:12,891 --> 00:23:15,018
Oh, my God,
what's down here. Hat.
478
00:23:15,602 --> 00:23:16,728
Susanne approached me
479
00:23:16,812 --> 00:23:20,774
with a really well put together
idea of doing an exhibition.
480
00:23:20,941 --> 00:23:23,276
And I went over
to the Chelsea Hotel,
481
00:23:23,443 --> 00:23:25,153
and there were
amazing things like
482
00:23:25,237 --> 00:23:27,864
Mr. Pearl outfits,
Zaldy outfits,
483
00:23:27,989 --> 00:23:29,282
incredible corsets.
484
00:23:29,366 --> 00:23:31,118
And I just got more
and more excited.
485
00:23:31,493 --> 00:23:34,121
And I could really see there
being a fantastic show.
486
00:23:34,788 --> 00:23:36,540
Galliano's, remember those?
487
00:23:37,165 --> 00:23:39,918
Actually, you weren't born, were you?
When were you born?
488
00:23:40,085 --> 00:23:42,587
This is a product. It's going to be up
for three months.
489
00:23:42,712 --> 00:23:45,590
-Right.
-Something that's not just there
for the night.
490
00:23:45,674 --> 00:23:48,135
It'd something that you're
gonna be able to go and see.
491
00:23:48,385 --> 00:23:51,429
It's what I wanted.
I want to be art.
492
00:23:52,180 --> 00:23:54,933
I want it to be viewed as art,
what I do.
493
00:23:55,350 --> 00:23:56,893
What's the first page?
494
00:23:56,977 --> 00:23:57,894
-Let's go by them.
-This one?
495
00:23:58,103 --> 00:23:59,146
-This is...
496
00:23:59,229 --> 00:24:01,064
Can you not use the pens,
I don't want to mark.
497
00:24:01,189 --> 00:24:02,399
Oh, so wait, give it to me.
498
00:24:02,482 --> 00:24:04,860
Because you use it that way,
then when you write something
499
00:24:04,943 --> 00:24:06,278
-you turn it and you write.
-Okay.
500
00:24:06,361 --> 00:24:08,196
-Okay.
-See? Simple.
501
00:24:10,031 --> 00:24:12,993
So this the Galliano
that's over here.
502
00:24:14,161 --> 00:24:15,162
Okay, sorry.
503
00:24:15,245 --> 00:24:17,622
♪ Slave to the fashion ♪
504
00:24:18,206 --> 00:24:20,792
Basically, you become
slave to it.
505
00:24:21,126 --> 00:24:24,087
I mean, I work more.
I just want to get this done.
506
00:24:25,297 --> 00:24:26,506
That, I made that.
507
00:24:26,715 --> 00:24:28,049
-You did it?
-I should give it--
508
00:24:28,133 --> 00:24:30,385
I'm gonna give this to you
when I'm officially--
509
00:24:30,510 --> 00:24:33,180
-This is like 1970-something.
-Okay.
510
00:24:33,263 --> 00:24:34,222
-That's so cool.
-There you go.
511
00:24:34,306 --> 00:24:36,474
Yeah. Before
the punk days, baby.
512
00:24:41,021 --> 00:24:43,857
I had all these friends
when I was 16.
513
00:24:43,940 --> 00:24:45,317
They were all
going to London.
514
00:24:45,442 --> 00:24:49,321
They would come back
and tell me like these
incredible stories.
515
00:24:49,404 --> 00:24:50,989
The clubs, the music,
516
00:24:51,114 --> 00:24:52,407
I mean,
"That's where I've to go.
517
00:24:52,490 --> 00:24:53,617
I gotta go to London."
518
00:24:54,868 --> 00:24:57,495
My excuse was to go
learn English properly,
519
00:24:57,579 --> 00:24:59,372
but after like three months...
520
00:25:01,124 --> 00:25:02,042
Barely three months.
521
00:25:02,125 --> 00:25:04,461
My parents found out that
I'd never been to school.
522
00:25:04,544 --> 00:25:05,837
I'd been out all day
523
00:25:05,962 --> 00:25:07,339
gallivanting around.
524
00:25:07,422 --> 00:25:09,758
My parents said,
"You have to come home,
525
00:25:09,883 --> 00:25:11,218
we're not supporting you."
526
00:25:11,301 --> 00:25:14,930
I'm going, "Well, I'm--
I don't need your money.
I'm staying."
527
00:25:15,138 --> 00:25:17,641
And it was a whole
incredible scene.
528
00:25:18,975 --> 00:25:20,936
There was this store
called Crumble.
529
00:25:22,020 --> 00:25:23,313
I said,
"I'm looking for a job."
530
00:25:23,813 --> 00:25:26,399
I was a really good sales person,
I was like famous.
531
00:25:26,650 --> 00:25:29,277
The gigs rocked
'cause I sold so much stuff.
532
00:25:32,656 --> 00:25:35,033
It wasn't on my mind
to go to America.
533
00:25:35,992 --> 00:25:39,037
I started off here
as a girlfriend of a painter.
534
00:25:40,497 --> 00:25:43,333
And noticed that there
wasn't much fashion here.
535
00:25:43,416 --> 00:25:46,461
I mean, there was fashion,
but I wanted to have, like,
536
00:25:46,962 --> 00:25:49,130
underground fashion.
I missed
537
00:25:49,714 --> 00:25:51,258
ever-changing looks
538
00:25:51,341 --> 00:25:53,343
that I saw in London,
that I did myself.
539
00:25:53,718 --> 00:25:54,844
So I'm going,
540
00:25:54,928 --> 00:25:56,513
"Why not import what I miss?"
541
00:25:57,722 --> 00:26:00,684
Susanne Bartsch
is the intriguing Swiss name
542
00:26:00,767 --> 00:26:03,144
of a new avant-garde shop
in New York.
543
00:26:03,436 --> 00:26:05,313
The owner,
Susanne Bartsch...
544
00:26:07,274 --> 00:26:09,234
She had the grooviest little shop.
545
00:26:09,317 --> 00:26:11,278
And it housed
546
00:26:11,611 --> 00:26:14,406
the most crazy,
innovative merchandise
547
00:26:14,489 --> 00:26:16,032
from London at the time.
548
00:26:16,116 --> 00:26:17,867
So people liked John Galliano
549
00:26:18,243 --> 00:26:20,829
and BodyMap came out
of that explosion
550
00:26:20,912 --> 00:26:22,914
of post-punk creativity.
551
00:26:23,039 --> 00:26:25,041
And Susanne, of course,
knew them all.
552
00:26:25,208 --> 00:26:26,793
And in her little store
in New York,
553
00:26:26,876 --> 00:26:29,004
she was the first person
to bring them here
554
00:26:29,337 --> 00:26:30,922
and show the clothing.
555
00:26:31,381 --> 00:26:33,258
Susanne had an effect
on three continents.
556
00:26:33,341 --> 00:26:35,844
She took London style,
she brought it to New York,
557
00:26:35,927 --> 00:26:37,053
and she brought it to Tokyo.
558
00:26:39,931 --> 00:26:42,058
But then, she had
an even bigger impact
559
00:26:42,142 --> 00:26:43,393
with her club nights.
560
00:26:43,601 --> 00:26:45,770
That's probably what
most people know her for.
561
00:26:46,438 --> 00:26:50,358
You know, a designer, even if they're
a minimalist simple designer,
562
00:26:50,525 --> 00:26:52,527
you can't go to one of her clubs
563
00:26:52,610 --> 00:26:54,529
and not take away something
564
00:26:54,696 --> 00:26:57,824
from all that sort of
explosive creativity.
565
00:26:58,616 --> 00:27:00,535
She's a perfect example
566
00:27:00,618 --> 00:27:03,079
of how it's not just one person
who makes fashion,
567
00:27:03,330 --> 00:27:04,706
not just a designer.
568
00:27:04,831 --> 00:27:06,458
It's a lot of creative people
569
00:27:06,624 --> 00:27:10,045
in venues where the creativity
is validated.
570
00:27:12,297 --> 00:27:13,715
What time is it, Brandon?
571
00:27:13,882 --> 00:27:15,342
It is...
572
00:27:16,885 --> 00:27:18,470
-Yeah, 4:40.
-We have to go.
573
00:27:18,553 --> 00:27:20,263
-And we're taking the marked...
-I get it, yeah.
574
00:27:22,015 --> 00:27:23,767
This is the mermaid, right?
575
00:27:23,975 --> 00:27:25,185
It's the cocoon.
576
00:27:29,272 --> 00:27:30,523
This shit is heavy.
577
00:27:37,155 --> 00:27:38,114
Here we go.
578
00:27:49,167 --> 00:27:50,377
-Brandon?
-Yeah.
579
00:27:50,668 --> 00:27:52,128
Shit! Can you call my phone?
580
00:27:52,212 --> 00:27:54,130
I think I left it
at the star fuck.
581
00:27:55,256 --> 00:27:56,424
It's ringing, but not here.
582
00:27:57,509 --> 00:27:58,468
Fuck!
583
00:27:59,886 --> 00:28:01,346
Oh, I got it. Cool.
584
00:28:02,097 --> 00:28:03,890
Who should that go with?
585
00:28:06,768 --> 00:28:08,436
Should this go with somebody?
586
00:28:09,104 --> 00:28:10,647
Brandon,
I'm going downstairs.
587
00:28:10,730 --> 00:28:11,564
Okay.
588
00:28:15,652 --> 00:28:16,653
Wow.
589
00:28:16,986 --> 00:28:19,572
I mean, there are
gonna be mannequins
going up the stairs.
590
00:28:19,656 --> 00:28:21,658
So, that'll look
really cool, but...
591
00:28:23,201 --> 00:28:25,036
Ooh... Mmm...
592
00:28:26,496 --> 00:28:27,914
The runway is great.
593
00:28:30,041 --> 00:28:31,501
It's gonna be busy in here.
594
00:28:36,297 --> 00:28:38,508
I guess with the lightning
and everything it'll...
595
00:28:39,718 --> 00:28:40,635
Look...
596
00:28:42,637 --> 00:28:44,222
Wow, okay.
597
00:28:44,639 --> 00:28:45,765
Right on.
598
00:28:46,057 --> 00:28:47,350
Back upstairs.
599
00:28:53,106 --> 00:28:54,899
You know, I've been
for a while wanting
600
00:28:54,983 --> 00:28:57,318
to do things where
there's a product.
601
00:28:57,902 --> 00:29:00,113
Right now,
I got this exhibition.
602
00:29:00,238 --> 00:29:01,906
I've got the lashes thing
going on.
603
00:29:01,990 --> 00:29:05,452
We're gonna do pictures of you
in every eyelash, right?
604
00:29:05,535 --> 00:29:06,703
-Now, we're gonna get...
-Now.
605
00:29:06,786 --> 00:29:08,246
-...plain face, lashes.
-So, let's do it.
606
00:29:08,455 --> 00:29:10,248
We're gonna, well--
Here's the thing.
607
00:29:10,790 --> 00:29:13,251
Susanne, I have a difference
of opinion on this.
608
00:29:13,460 --> 00:29:16,087
I wanna do-- We can do
one farther away.
609
00:29:16,463 --> 00:29:18,798
But I really wanna get
all the faces together.
610
00:29:18,923 --> 00:29:20,091
-I can do one.
-As well.
611
00:29:20,175 --> 00:29:21,009
As well.
612
00:29:21,134 --> 00:29:23,511
We'll shoot one farther away
quickly for her.
613
00:29:23,970 --> 00:29:25,847
And then we'll
concentrate on the--
614
00:29:25,930 --> 00:29:27,432
-What I wanna do.
-Okay.
615
00:29:27,807 --> 00:29:28,850
-Perfect.
-I think
616
00:29:29,017 --> 00:29:31,770
when we do them, you're gonna have to chop this one.
617
00:29:32,353 --> 00:29:34,439
-This or the first one?
-First one, yeah.
618
00:29:35,899 --> 00:29:37,650
I guess when
David and I split up,
619
00:29:37,817 --> 00:29:40,320
finances were more stressful,
620
00:29:40,403 --> 00:29:42,447
because I had to become
self-supportive again.
621
00:29:42,530 --> 00:29:44,240
Not because he doesn't
wanna give me any money,
622
00:29:44,324 --> 00:29:45,992
he just went through
a lot himself.
623
00:29:46,159 --> 00:29:47,660
-Hi!
-Hi!
624
00:29:47,744 --> 00:29:49,913
-Oh, look at you gorgeous creatures.
-How are you?
625
00:29:49,996 --> 00:29:51,122
-Good!
626
00:29:51,206 --> 00:29:52,040
Great!
627
00:29:52,123 --> 00:29:55,168
The business of nightclub, like,
having a party once a week
628
00:29:55,251 --> 00:29:57,045
isn't gonna make anybody rich.
629
00:29:57,128 --> 00:29:58,880
At one point
I did four a week,
630
00:29:59,339 --> 00:30:01,716
two in one night
for quite a while.
631
00:30:03,843 --> 00:30:07,972
When I do things,
I want them to enable me
to be self-supportive.
632
00:30:08,223 --> 00:30:10,308
If something doesn't
work financially,
633
00:30:10,475 --> 00:30:14,687
unless you're a trust fund baby
or you have a sugar daddy,
634
00:30:14,771 --> 00:30:16,523
it's difficult
to keep doing it.
635
00:30:16,606 --> 00:30:21,319
I don't want to rely
on a husband, or people,
friends, you know.
636
00:30:21,402 --> 00:30:23,613
-I like that.
-That's very beautiful.
637
00:30:24,113 --> 00:30:25,865
I didn't know
I had all those wrinkles.
638
00:30:25,949 --> 00:30:26,991
I'm in denial.
639
00:30:28,117 --> 00:30:29,202
No, it's the light, honey.
640
00:30:29,285 --> 00:30:30,954
It's gonna pick up
everything, so.
641
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:35,959
Oh, I just--
Okay, it's fine.
642
00:30:58,106 --> 00:31:00,149
I don't have a feeling, though,
about tonight, you know.
643
00:31:00,233 --> 00:31:01,150
No?
644
00:31:01,234 --> 00:31:02,944
-It's weird.
-I think it's gonna be good.
645
00:31:03,278 --> 00:31:05,822
Everybody's been talk--
Everybody is asking about it.
646
00:31:05,905 --> 00:31:08,449
They've been asking and asking
and asking for weeks. Really.
647
00:31:09,784 --> 00:31:11,786
-I mean...
-And people are promoting a lot.
648
00:31:11,953 --> 00:31:13,413
Like, Facebook is constant.
649
00:31:13,538 --> 00:31:14,414
-Yeah.
-Yeah.
650
00:31:14,497 --> 00:31:15,874
I forgot to post something.
651
00:31:15,957 --> 00:31:17,667
My friend has been
planning his look for weeks.
652
00:31:17,750 --> 00:31:18,751
Should I post something?
653
00:31:19,002 --> 00:31:21,379
Honestly, there's so much on Facebook about this, really.
654
00:31:21,921 --> 00:31:23,840
Don't I-- Oh, I have
a page right here. Yeah.
655
00:31:24,966 --> 00:31:26,175
So let me go look.
656
00:31:30,513 --> 00:31:32,807
Yeah, it needs makeup, Deney.
It's horrible.
657
00:31:35,018 --> 00:31:36,060
No.
658
00:31:37,103 --> 00:31:39,063
No. Yes, it does.
659
00:31:40,064 --> 00:31:44,027
Sorry. I mean, it's a great idea
and everything. But it's not--
660
00:31:44,569 --> 00:31:46,446
Look, if I stand
and talk to you...
661
00:31:46,821 --> 00:31:47,822
It's not cool.
662
00:31:47,906 --> 00:31:50,158
-I need makeup below.
-Maybe liner.
663
00:31:50,491 --> 00:31:51,326
Liner.
664
00:31:51,701 --> 00:31:54,078
I need something
or, or, um...
665
00:31:55,830 --> 00:31:57,373
-What's it called?
-Liner.
666
00:31:58,666 --> 00:32:01,169
How do you think about this,
with socks or no socks?
667
00:32:01,669 --> 00:32:03,588
-I think without.
-Without?
668
00:32:03,755 --> 00:32:04,881
But I-- I mean, it's--
669
00:32:04,964 --> 00:32:07,008
Whatever you feel,
you know, it looks fine.
670
00:32:07,091 --> 00:32:08,676
Yeah, leave the socks.
671
00:32:09,177 --> 00:32:11,220
If they look at your feet
there's something wrong.
672
00:32:13,473 --> 00:32:15,683
So Brandon, it looks like
I'm running late.
673
00:32:15,975 --> 00:32:17,393
I figured you would be.
674
00:32:17,477 --> 00:32:19,812
Well... He had no
makeup on my eye.
675
00:32:19,896 --> 00:32:22,148
I can't be without--
Never mind how I like to look.
676
00:32:22,231 --> 00:32:23,358
It just doesn't work.
677
00:32:23,441 --> 00:32:24,901
You have your
checkbook, right?
678
00:32:25,443 --> 00:32:26,653
I have everything.
679
00:32:26,819 --> 00:32:29,072
-You sure?
-Checkbook is really all I need.
680
00:32:29,405 --> 00:32:30,239
-Trust.
-Yeah.
681
00:32:30,323 --> 00:32:32,867
-No one's gonna be there
before 10:30 anyway, right?
-Yeah.
682
00:32:32,992 --> 00:32:35,453
-Okay.
-All right. Bye, babe.
Thank you.
683
00:32:35,578 --> 00:32:37,997
How long will it be
with the sewing, do
you think?
684
00:32:38,331 --> 00:32:40,833
-Five minutes-- Seven.
-I'll start dressing.
685
00:33:01,646 --> 00:33:03,856
And then,
I'm gonna put this on top.
686
00:33:04,649 --> 00:33:05,900
Deney?
687
00:33:07,110 --> 00:33:07,944
I need to fix it.
688
00:33:08,027 --> 00:33:10,363
I look demented.
But it's cool.
689
00:33:10,571 --> 00:33:12,281
I need to bend it, fix it.
690
00:33:12,407 --> 00:33:13,908
I need you to sit
until it dries.
691
00:33:13,992 --> 00:33:15,159
-So, I could do all that.
-This is a mess.
692
00:33:16,035 --> 00:33:18,955
Talk about picking up
a guy tonight, I ain't
gonna get loads.
693
00:33:19,038 --> 00:33:21,040
No cock tonight, baby.
694
00:33:22,208 --> 00:33:25,169
it starts at 10:00. I can't,
you know, not show up.
695
00:33:25,378 --> 00:33:27,088
-This blonde should...
-[Martuscelli]
Can I just cut it?
696
00:33:27,255 --> 00:33:28,256
I don't have time.
697
00:33:28,631 --> 00:33:30,341
They're asking me
where I am.
698
00:33:30,466 --> 00:33:32,635
-Can you text Brandon,
and say we're coming?
-Right.
699
00:33:32,719 --> 00:33:34,345
-This is no longer there.
-Excuse me.
700
00:33:34,762 --> 00:33:36,014
This is actually not on.
701
00:33:36,097 --> 00:33:38,307
'Cause I have to pin the front.
702
00:33:38,391 --> 00:33:40,101
-Yeah, this is not good.
-What should it do?
703
00:33:45,481 --> 00:33:47,734
Still not working right.
I don't like it.
704
00:33:48,234 --> 00:33:50,111
I'm so upset.
I'm so freaked out.
705
00:33:50,194 --> 00:33:51,362
I need help.
706
00:33:51,571 --> 00:33:52,405
Wait, Rachel.
707
00:33:52,488 --> 00:33:54,115
No, you need
to come on time.
708
00:33:54,532 --> 00:33:55,491
Wait, Rachel, Rachel.
709
00:33:55,575 --> 00:33:57,785
Stay right there, please.
Excuse me, guys.
710
00:33:58,202 --> 00:33:59,203
Stay right there.
711
00:33:59,287 --> 00:34:00,747
-Hold it somebody.
-I don't have time.
712
00:34:00,830 --> 00:34:02,582
I'm not comfortable
we're doing this one.
713
00:34:03,666 --> 00:34:04,751
We're not cutting hair.
714
00:34:09,630 --> 00:34:10,465
You're leaving?
715
00:34:10,548 --> 00:34:11,591
10:30. Yeah.
716
00:34:11,674 --> 00:34:12,925
I'm just gonna pee.
717
00:34:15,136 --> 00:34:16,971
I don't care anymore.
Let me go.
718
00:34:22,727 --> 00:34:23,978
-This look?
-Yeah.
719
00:34:24,771 --> 00:34:25,897
I hate it.
720
00:34:26,355 --> 00:34:27,523
Why didn't you tell me?
721
00:34:27,815 --> 00:34:29,108
I needed to plan.
722
00:34:29,192 --> 00:34:30,193
I like it.
723
00:34:30,276 --> 00:34:33,071
The look is amazing, but
it's not worked out properly.
724
00:34:33,154 --> 00:34:34,072
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
725
00:34:34,155 --> 00:34:35,239
And that's the thing,
you know.
726
00:34:35,364 --> 00:34:37,492
All we have to do
is spend a little time.
727
00:34:37,867 --> 00:34:40,161
It's like when you
paint the house
you have to dry paint.
728
00:34:40,244 --> 00:34:42,205
I'm from the land of clocks.
729
00:34:42,914 --> 00:34:43,998
Switzerland.
730
00:34:45,166 --> 00:34:48,211
And Switzerland, in that day,
was really conservative.
731
00:34:48,544 --> 00:34:51,464
I was to marry,
have a bank account,
a car and a house.
732
00:34:52,131 --> 00:34:55,218
It was sort of a very
boxed in kind of a thing
733
00:34:55,301 --> 00:34:58,429
that I felt
I had to be, uh,
734
00:34:58,513 --> 00:34:59,555
fit in to.
735
00:35:02,183 --> 00:35:03,267
I just know that
736
00:35:03,351 --> 00:35:06,270
if I left Switzerland,
I would be able
737
00:35:07,146 --> 00:35:09,315
to find out more
about who I am.
738
00:35:09,398 --> 00:35:11,442
I felt that if I stayed
in Switzerland,
739
00:35:11,567 --> 00:35:12,777
I would be stifled
740
00:35:12,860 --> 00:35:14,195
with what you're
supposed to be.
741
00:35:14,278 --> 00:35:16,280
And I wanted to discover
who I am.
742
00:35:16,614 --> 00:35:19,450
I knew that there
was a lot more to life.
743
00:35:19,534 --> 00:35:21,536
And I was not afraid to go out
744
00:35:21,619 --> 00:35:25,665
and find out what it's like
to not be in the safety
of what you know.
745
00:35:30,002 --> 00:35:32,171
My childhood was
very straightforward.
746
00:35:32,797 --> 00:35:34,132
It was very safe.
747
00:35:34,423 --> 00:35:35,842
My childhood was very safe.
748
00:35:43,891 --> 00:35:46,227
Very present mother,
mother that stayed home.
749
00:35:46,310 --> 00:35:47,436
The father went to work.
750
00:35:57,029 --> 00:35:58,573
We're gonna go
straight on.
751
00:35:58,656 --> 00:35:59,824
You're on 13, right?
752
00:36:00,366 --> 00:36:02,076
-Yeah. Yeah.
-Yeah, keep going.
753
00:36:02,535 --> 00:36:04,245
And then, one day
I came home,
754
00:36:04,328 --> 00:36:06,706
I don't remember if
I was six or seven.
755
00:36:07,999 --> 00:36:11,961
And my mother was being
whisked off in an ambulance.
756
00:36:12,628 --> 00:36:14,213
And I remember me and my sister,
and my brother,
757
00:36:14,297 --> 00:36:17,383
we looked out of the window,
my mother was taken away.
758
00:36:20,511 --> 00:36:21,679
She had TB,
759
00:36:21,804 --> 00:36:25,057
which was a kind of, already an
unusual illness in those days.
760
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:29,312
I don't remember
anybody sitting down
really explaining.
761
00:36:29,395 --> 00:36:31,105
It was just like this perfect
762
00:36:31,856 --> 00:36:33,941
weather, and then suddenly,
a hurricane came.
763
00:36:34,650 --> 00:36:37,945
And my father was just kind of
off in, like, la-la land.
764
00:36:38,029 --> 00:36:40,948
So we were at the mercy
of these strangers, in a way.
765
00:36:41,741 --> 00:36:44,410
We had a woman
that was taking care of us.
766
00:36:44,535 --> 00:36:46,454
That was a long time,
two years.
767
00:36:47,413 --> 00:36:48,706
And, I think I had to grow up.
768
00:36:48,789 --> 00:36:49,790
That's when I grew up.
769
00:36:51,250 --> 00:36:52,251
Keep going,
770
00:36:53,169 --> 00:36:55,171
where the red sign is
over there.
771
00:36:56,964 --> 00:36:59,717
So what happened is,
my father fell in love,
772
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:01,510
or was having an affair
773
00:37:01,886 --> 00:37:03,971
with that woman,
774
00:37:04,388 --> 00:37:05,890
what the main person
775
00:37:05,973 --> 00:37:07,767
that was taking care of us.
We didn't know.
776
00:37:09,435 --> 00:37:10,853
So, after my mother
came back
777
00:37:10,937 --> 00:37:15,858
I guess, he was gonna
cut it off with that woman.
778
00:37:16,776 --> 00:37:18,861
But she got pregnant.
779
00:37:20,196 --> 00:37:21,989
When it finally came out,
780
00:37:22,198 --> 00:37:25,243
my father said,
"I have another child,
781
00:37:25,743 --> 00:37:27,536
and another one on the way."
782
00:37:28,913 --> 00:37:31,123
It ended the family.
783
00:37:32,750 --> 00:37:36,003
My father clearly
was capable of living
a double life.
784
00:37:37,213 --> 00:37:39,257
I kind of admired
how well he did it.
785
00:37:39,340 --> 00:37:40,341
He really did it well.
786
00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:58,985
Life...
Living life is odd.
787
00:37:59,110 --> 00:38:02,238
You know, we have
to go through all
sorts of ways and types,
788
00:38:02,321 --> 00:38:03,739
ups and downs in life.
789
00:38:03,823 --> 00:38:05,783
And to get through
it is, is...
790
00:38:06,492 --> 00:38:09,203
You know, to survive it
and come out at the other end
791
00:38:09,662 --> 00:38:12,081
in a positive way,
isn't always easy.
792
00:38:12,164 --> 00:38:14,625
You know, so,
it's an art form.
793
00:38:59,670 --> 00:39:01,213
Where's the line?
794
00:39:01,422 --> 00:39:02,923
-Am I...
795
00:39:03,132 --> 00:39:04,592
No, where is everybody?
796
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:06,802
It's a fucking
freeze-up, right?
797
00:39:07,511 --> 00:39:09,430
It's too cold. Is anybody here?
798
00:39:09,722 --> 00:39:11,390
Yeah. There are
some people here.
799
00:39:11,474 --> 00:39:13,100
Yeah. No, that's not
a good answer.
800
00:39:13,184 --> 00:39:14,435
There are, it's early.
801
00:39:30,868 --> 00:39:34,080
-Go on and shake, shake, shake.
802
00:39:34,497 --> 00:39:35,748
-Have a good night.
-Thank you.
803
00:40:08,322 --> 00:40:10,282
I went fairly regularly
to Susanne's events
804
00:40:10,366 --> 00:40:11,575
when I was still
in high school.
805
00:40:12,034 --> 00:40:14,370
Like this closeted gay kid
from Afghanistan.
806
00:40:16,414 --> 00:40:19,083
This world of technicolor
suddenly just opened.
807
00:40:21,669 --> 00:40:25,548
That little scared outsider
kid from Kabul via New Jersey.
808
00:40:25,631 --> 00:40:28,092
I'd get dressed up,
and get on the bus
809
00:40:28,175 --> 00:40:29,760
and come to the
Port Authority
810
00:40:29,844 --> 00:40:32,012
and make our way to the club.
811
00:40:32,263 --> 00:40:35,141
So we didn't have to hide.
Just for one night.
812
00:40:37,435 --> 00:40:40,563
That's exactly what
Susanne's world was for me,
813
00:40:40,646 --> 00:40:42,148
and still continues to be.
814
00:40:43,315 --> 00:40:46,235
I had a few hours
in which I could
815
00:40:46,694 --> 00:40:48,696
feel that extraordinary
sense of freedom.
816
00:40:58,414 --> 00:40:59,832
Because we had cool looks
817
00:40:59,915 --> 00:41:01,792
Kenny would let
us in right away.
818
00:41:03,752 --> 00:41:06,005
You can't dress like this
and be the same.
819
00:41:08,090 --> 00:41:10,009
Shamans all over the world
820
00:41:10,217 --> 00:41:11,510
dress in costumes
821
00:41:11,635 --> 00:41:13,846
to bring out a different
energy in themselves,
822
00:41:13,929 --> 00:41:15,764
so they can reach
a different place.
823
00:41:16,056 --> 00:41:17,975
You put this on and then
you put that on
824
00:41:18,058 --> 00:41:20,186
and the magnifying
of the dress
825
00:41:20,269 --> 00:41:21,896
and the magnifying
of the persona,
826
00:41:21,979 --> 00:41:23,981
it's just reaching
a place where you
827
00:41:24,064 --> 00:41:26,567
feel your vulnerabilities
are pushed
828
00:41:27,109 --> 00:41:28,194
to the back.
829
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:33,657
To me, it's about
waking the subconscious,
830
00:41:34,575 --> 00:41:35,910
bringing things out.
831
00:41:36,285 --> 00:41:40,539
These are characters
who just come to life
with music.
832
00:41:46,253 --> 00:41:49,089
You just listen, you hear the music
and you move to the beat.
833
00:41:50,883 --> 00:41:52,551
To me, it's like meditation.
834
00:41:55,971 --> 00:41:59,141
Be in the moment.
Being in the moment
is spiritual,
835
00:41:59,266 --> 00:42:02,478
an experience where
you can completely
836
00:42:02,561 --> 00:42:08,776
transcend out of your body
and just be part of people
around you.
837
00:42:21,413 --> 00:42:22,414
You don't ask.
838
00:42:22,498 --> 00:42:24,917
But you realize people
go through a lot.
839
00:42:25,668 --> 00:42:29,296
But that's what makes nightlife
so special, is you can just
escape from all that.
840
00:42:29,380 --> 00:42:31,257
Be around people
who get you,
841
00:42:31,340 --> 00:42:34,385
and support you
and won't judge you.
842
00:42:36,804 --> 00:42:39,682
It's stil... is a safe place
for people
843
00:42:39,765 --> 00:42:43,811
who feel like they have
nowhere else that they belong.
844
00:42:46,105 --> 00:42:49,191
Back then we had
to go to those places
845
00:42:49,441 --> 00:42:52,111
because it was the only way
we could have this
846
00:42:52,236 --> 00:42:53,988
existential experience
847
00:42:54,071 --> 00:42:58,033
that we couldn't have
at home or in the streets.
848
00:42:59,535 --> 00:43:00,995
There were all sorts of laws
849
00:43:01,078 --> 00:43:03,038
about how close men
were allowed to stand.
850
00:43:03,205 --> 00:43:04,957
It was beyond
human comprehension.
851
00:43:05,249 --> 00:43:06,875
'Cause before we had all these rights,
852
00:43:06,959 --> 00:43:10,504
gay marriage, clubs
were a safe meeting place
853
00:43:10,588 --> 00:43:12,214
for gays to meet each other.
854
00:43:12,464 --> 00:43:15,384
Sex was a big element,
way before
855
00:43:15,467 --> 00:43:17,636
social apps and all that stuff
took over.
856
00:43:17,761 --> 00:43:20,889
You had to go out meet
somebody in person
to take them home.
857
00:43:23,309 --> 00:43:25,561
Yeah, you knew
you're at the right place
858
00:43:25,644 --> 00:43:28,188
if it was just about
to be busted or just had been.
859
00:43:32,818 --> 00:43:35,237
There's still fun parties,
like, and they feel wild.
860
00:43:35,362 --> 00:43:37,031
But there's something
about that time.
861
00:43:38,616 --> 00:43:41,327
It just felt really free.
862
00:44:24,787 --> 00:44:28,040
Scientists at the National
Centers for Disease Control
in Atlanta
863
00:44:28,123 --> 00:44:30,417
today released
the results of a study
864
00:44:30,542 --> 00:44:33,879
which shows that the lifestyle
of some male homosexuals
865
00:44:34,296 --> 00:44:37,257
has triggered an epidemic
of a rare form of cancer.
866
00:44:42,054 --> 00:44:43,681
Living in New York in the heart
867
00:44:43,764 --> 00:44:46,934
of the beginning of the AIDS
epidemic as it kept mounting
868
00:44:47,017 --> 00:44:49,812
was a horrifying sci-fi movie.
869
00:44:51,814 --> 00:44:53,982
Somebody loses weight
or somebody has a pimple,
870
00:44:54,066 --> 00:44:55,984
everybody was like,
"Oh, she has it."
871
00:44:57,486 --> 00:44:59,530
We want to identify
every person who is a carrier.
872
00:44:59,613 --> 00:45:02,032
We want to identify every
possible way to stop them
873
00:45:02,116 --> 00:45:03,700
from spreading the disease.
874
00:45:04,076 --> 00:45:06,703
Klaus Nomi is the
first person that I knew
875
00:45:06,912 --> 00:45:09,415
that was dying of AIDS.
876
00:45:09,498 --> 00:45:11,708
Going to visit him,
it was crazy.
877
00:45:12,751 --> 00:45:13,794
When Klaus was at the hospital
878
00:45:13,877 --> 00:45:16,213
it was, like they'd found
an alien from Area 51,
879
00:45:16,672 --> 00:45:18,966
all in plastic and covered up.
880
00:45:19,049 --> 00:45:22,553
They put me in a jump suit,
and a mask, and helmet,
and gloves
881
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:24,138
They said,
"we don't know what this is."
882
00:45:24,930 --> 00:45:26,557
And I walked in,
883
00:45:26,765 --> 00:45:28,475
took the gloves off,
the jumpsuit,
884
00:45:28,892 --> 00:45:30,310
and I got him
885
00:45:31,395 --> 00:45:34,022
hugged him,
held him, kissed him.
886
00:45:34,398 --> 00:45:36,358
And I could see the doctors
banging on the window.
887
00:45:37,234 --> 00:45:39,611
If the only way to
stop 'em, stop it,
is quarantine people,
888
00:45:39,695 --> 00:45:41,447
I don't think there's
any way around it.
889
00:45:41,613 --> 00:45:42,781
I think they're gonna
have to do it.
890
00:45:42,906 --> 00:45:45,409
These people, they're not fit.
They're not human beings.
891
00:45:45,492 --> 00:45:46,994
They have emotional problem.
892
00:45:48,495 --> 00:45:50,539
[man] Do they see him
on the street, RuPaul?
893
00:45:50,622 --> 00:45:51,748
No.
894
00:45:54,376 --> 00:45:56,879
You're disgrace to
the human race.
You know that?
895
00:46:02,009 --> 00:46:04,511
Every day, you heard about
somebody else who had died.
896
00:46:04,761 --> 00:46:06,889
Everybody was
torn between grief
897
00:46:07,097 --> 00:46:10,601
and terror, and absolute
rage at the government
898
00:46:10,684 --> 00:46:12,269
because President Reagan
899
00:46:12,352 --> 00:46:14,563
did not mention
the word for years.
900
00:46:14,646 --> 00:46:15,481
Mr. Reagan said,
901
00:46:15,564 --> 00:46:17,065
"Prevention is better
than a cure."
902
00:46:17,274 --> 00:46:20,235
Abstinence has been lacking
in much of the education.
903
00:46:22,279 --> 00:46:23,614
Within my own community,
904
00:46:23,697 --> 00:46:25,240
you know, ballroom community,
905
00:46:26,033 --> 00:46:28,160
I started seeing how
everybody was pushing away.
906
00:46:28,452 --> 00:46:30,287
Like, don't touch me,
you know, like,
907
00:46:30,579 --> 00:46:31,872
they wouldn't eat
from the same spoon.
908
00:46:31,955 --> 00:46:32,873
They wouldn't do anything.
909
00:46:32,956 --> 00:46:34,625
They don't want to breathe
next to one another.
910
00:46:35,250 --> 00:46:36,710
You don't even know
what to make of it.
911
00:46:36,793 --> 00:46:41,465
It was a creative holocaust
on everyone that one knew.
912
00:46:45,052 --> 00:46:47,846
Gary and Julio
who lived here with me,
913
00:46:47,930 --> 00:46:49,473
they both died of AIDS.
914
00:46:49,556 --> 00:46:50,557
And...
915
00:46:59,316 --> 00:47:01,527
Uh, the names
916
00:47:02,069 --> 00:47:03,862
kept pouring and pouring.
917
00:47:04,613 --> 00:47:06,990
And I was just waiting
for them to say my name.
918
00:47:15,332 --> 00:47:16,917
When I was personally diagnosed,
919
00:47:17,042 --> 00:47:18,961
I accepted it right there
on the spot.
920
00:47:20,796 --> 00:47:23,131
The doctor only confirmed
what I already knew.
921
00:47:23,257 --> 00:47:26,093
'Cause I felt I'm gay.
I have AIDS.
922
00:47:27,177 --> 00:47:28,011
Without even knowing,
923
00:47:28,095 --> 00:47:32,683
I just felt like, you know,
being gay is AIDS.
924
00:47:36,395 --> 00:47:38,480
The street kids
at one point, rebounded.
925
00:47:39,856 --> 00:47:41,567
But I wasn't getting
any help from anybody
926
00:47:41,900 --> 00:47:44,111
to say, "It's okay,
we love you."
927
00:47:44,653 --> 00:47:46,572
Because they were going
through the same thing.
928
00:47:48,282 --> 00:47:50,993
It was a dark, scary time.
929
00:47:51,326 --> 00:47:52,369
And I was depressed.
930
00:47:54,371 --> 00:47:56,582
One Sunday
I went to house ball.
931
00:47:59,793 --> 00:48:02,296
I just wanted
to go to a ball.
I love the balls.
932
00:48:02,379 --> 00:48:03,589
And I went there.
933
00:48:04,339 --> 00:48:07,009
When she came out, of course,
I'm like, you know...
934
00:48:07,175 --> 00:48:08,885
Excuse my expression.
I'm like, "Who's this bitch?"
935
00:48:09,511 --> 00:48:12,014
You know, and then
I found out that
she was "the bitch."
936
00:48:12,180 --> 00:48:15,559
So I'm like, "All right.
That's cool."
937
00:48:17,894 --> 00:48:21,398
That community was very
stricken by AIDS, especially.
938
00:48:22,232 --> 00:48:26,069
What can I do? I'm like,
"Why don't I fight
this fucking thing
939
00:48:26,153 --> 00:48:27,654
and do something about it?"
940
00:48:30,782 --> 00:48:34,244
Woke up the next day,
and I just had this like
vision of it.
941
00:48:35,245 --> 00:48:39,541
Why don't I use Harlem balls
to raise money for AIDS?
942
00:48:40,042 --> 00:48:42,669
I might have
to go to companies,
corporations.
943
00:48:42,878 --> 00:48:45,088
And make them be a house
for the night.
944
00:48:45,255 --> 00:48:48,884
Get companies to compete
against each other.
945
00:48:50,052 --> 00:48:52,554
And the first person I called
was Simon Doonan at Barneys
946
00:48:52,638 --> 00:48:53,597
'cause I knew him well.
947
00:48:53,722 --> 00:48:56,016
She told me all about
the Voguing Balls.
948
00:48:56,099 --> 00:48:59,144
And I didn't know about them.
And I went to one with her.
949
00:48:59,394 --> 00:49:01,021
And she said,
"This is the format."
950
00:49:01,104 --> 00:49:02,939
And then she
put a committee together.
951
00:49:03,315 --> 00:49:05,651
Susanne sat down with me
and said, "You know,
952
00:49:05,776 --> 00:49:09,154
I've had this idea,
and I think that,
953
00:49:09,529 --> 00:49:11,573
that we can take this
954
00:49:11,698 --> 00:49:14,826
and use it to really raise
a tremendous amount of money
955
00:49:15,744 --> 00:49:16,578
for AIDS."
956
00:49:16,745 --> 00:49:18,955
And I was very curious because
957
00:49:19,456 --> 00:49:22,042
I just couldn't really see
how that would ever happen.
958
00:49:31,009 --> 00:49:32,386
-How we doing?
-Very well.
959
00:49:32,469 --> 00:49:34,054
-It's time to probably
go through.
-Fine.
960
00:49:36,765 --> 00:49:39,601
It just snowballed.
Everybody was
just going for it.
961
00:49:39,685 --> 00:49:41,978
Donna Karan, Watch Watch
and Iman.
962
00:49:42,270 --> 00:49:44,314
We sold tables for $10,000.
963
00:49:47,317 --> 00:49:50,487
The wing commander, Bartsch,
was ruthless and rigorous
964
00:49:50,612 --> 00:49:52,698
about everything
must be donated.
965
00:49:52,781 --> 00:49:55,325
Preparations
for the night began
almost a year ago.
966
00:49:55,409 --> 00:49:58,995
And it's success relies
on corporate and
private sponsorship,
967
00:49:59,121 --> 00:50:03,250
as well as the free time
donated by Bartsch
and her troupe of volunteers.
968
00:50:03,583 --> 00:50:05,419
Vogue Ball Publicity.
Good afternoon.
969
00:50:05,669 --> 00:50:07,838
It's helping me by
970
00:50:08,672 --> 00:50:13,176
easing the pain. Doing
something about it makes me,
like, feel better.
971
00:50:13,301 --> 00:50:16,555
I want the people
to come together
and have fun.
972
00:50:16,805 --> 00:50:19,433
Even though in memory of
the people we've lost,
973
00:50:19,516 --> 00:50:21,518
and it's for the people
who're suffering.
974
00:50:21,601 --> 00:50:23,270
We want them to
know that we care.
975
00:50:25,897 --> 00:50:27,399
Live in New York,
976
00:50:27,774 --> 00:50:30,402
this is Fox News at Seven.
977
00:50:30,944 --> 00:50:33,530
Stars are coming out
tonight for a big benefit
978
00:50:33,613 --> 00:50:35,157
to raise money to fight AIDS.
979
00:50:35,657 --> 00:50:38,243
But this is not
your run-of-the-mill
charity event.
980
00:50:52,340 --> 00:50:54,468
Things are just getting
underway right, Amy?
981
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:56,636
Correct, Anne.
This is the fashion industry's
982
00:50:56,720 --> 00:50:59,347
hottest ticket in town. Madonna
is supposed to be on her way.
983
00:50:59,431 --> 00:51:01,850
Naomi Campbell will be
a judge tonight, we're told.
984
00:51:08,273 --> 00:51:10,192
Oh, and what a ball it will be.
985
00:51:14,279 --> 00:51:17,616
All of the Paris fashion scene
is united here.
986
00:51:19,075 --> 00:51:20,744
Everybody is here.
987
00:51:24,664 --> 00:51:26,458
Michael, Michael, who's here?
988
00:51:27,626 --> 00:51:30,545
Yes, House of Delight
has arrived at the Love Ball.
989
00:51:38,136 --> 00:51:40,764
The Love Ball
combines the talent
and creativity
990
00:51:40,847 --> 00:51:42,599
of some of the
top fashion designers,
991
00:51:42,682 --> 00:51:45,435
with the outrageousness
of New York City nightlife.
992
00:51:45,685 --> 00:51:48,688
What results is a visual feast
mixing uptown,
993
00:51:48,772 --> 00:51:51,691
downtown, and, in many cases,
way out of town.
994
00:51:51,900 --> 00:51:55,237
It's wild. I think no one
who's not here can
expect what it is.
995
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:57,280
This is night-drag, you know.
996
00:51:57,531 --> 00:52:01,034
I'm just doing it 'cause
everyone's brought all
these people here, you know?
997
00:52:01,326 --> 00:52:04,830
The highlight of
tonight's event is
a fashion competition
998
00:52:05,038 --> 00:52:07,165
based on the Voguing Balls
in Harlem.
999
00:52:07,916 --> 00:52:12,546
Although this scene
looks frivolous, perhaps,
to some people's eyes,
1000
00:52:12,671 --> 00:52:17,342
this is probably
the most serious
political action of our time.
1001
00:52:19,344 --> 00:52:22,013
Welcome to
the fabulous Love Ball.
1002
00:52:54,713 --> 00:52:56,089
Donna Karan!
1003
00:53:26,620 --> 00:53:27,704
[Bartsch] We raised
a lot of money.
1004
00:53:27,787 --> 00:53:33,877
I mean, we raised millions
to give directly back
to people suffering.
1005
00:53:35,420 --> 00:53:37,964
[Hector Xtravaganza] We were so
accepted with such open arms.
1006
00:53:38,423 --> 00:53:41,468
When you're a underground kid
and you're a street kid,
1007
00:53:41,635 --> 00:53:42,677
homeless kid,
1008
00:53:42,969 --> 00:53:45,263
and, you know, you
open up fashion magazines.
1009
00:53:45,347 --> 00:53:47,140
You hear about these
amazing designers.
1010
00:53:47,223 --> 00:53:49,643
Now you're in front of them,
and they're loving you?
1011
00:53:50,810 --> 00:53:52,145
It's so surreal.
1012
00:53:54,230 --> 00:53:56,566
I needed that.
I needed it.
1013
00:53:57,776 --> 00:54:00,904
Susanne, she played a lot
of roles for me accepting
1014
00:54:01,613 --> 00:54:05,659
myself as being, um...
HIV positive.
1015
00:54:05,742 --> 00:54:07,619
Because, you know,
her Love Ball.
1016
00:54:14,167 --> 00:54:16,127
[Musto] When Susanne Bartsch
took the stage,
1017
00:54:16,211 --> 00:54:18,797
it really was an electric
feeling in the room.
1018
00:54:18,922 --> 00:54:21,841
And everybody was
just screaming their
heads off for her.
1019
00:54:28,098 --> 00:54:30,725
I felt like
a transmitter,
1020
00:54:31,017 --> 00:54:33,895
the laugh and the energy
from the audience.
1021
00:54:33,979 --> 00:54:37,565
I felt like it came through...
and went back out
1022
00:54:37,649 --> 00:54:39,401
to them, it's amazing.
1023
00:55:02,090 --> 00:55:04,384
If you're still making
the ball, I'm gonna
scream at you.
1024
00:55:04,467 --> 00:55:07,387
This is for the braid hawk,
the foundation.
1025
00:55:08,013 --> 00:55:10,557
-The braid hawk.
-The long braid for Ronalto.
1026
00:55:11,099 --> 00:55:12,058
That's for tomorrow.
1027
00:55:12,142 --> 00:55:13,560
They're taking things.
1028
00:55:13,643 --> 00:55:15,770
Should I write it
on the wall?
1029
00:55:15,895 --> 00:55:18,773
We're using the other ball.
We don't have time anymore.
1030
00:55:20,025 --> 00:55:21,192
What do you think
about that?
1031
00:55:21,693 --> 00:55:23,987
I think he needs
solid lashes like Dom.
1032
00:55:24,070 --> 00:55:25,697
Like the one from home,
I'm sorry.
1033
00:55:26,322 --> 00:55:28,366
It just looks
like an afterthought.
1034
00:55:28,742 --> 00:55:29,909
But this has to be boom.
1035
00:55:31,619 --> 00:55:33,913
Do you know what I mean?
We've to get
all the lashes right.
1036
00:55:34,706 --> 00:55:37,709
No, this completely covers
this eye and this does not.
1037
00:55:38,668 --> 00:55:40,462
This is definitely
a no go, this hair.
1038
00:55:40,545 --> 00:55:42,172
It's like, "Shave me."
1039
00:55:44,049 --> 00:55:45,592
You're losing your mind.
1040
00:55:45,884 --> 00:55:46,926
Way better without.
1041
00:55:49,345 --> 00:55:52,015
So, I should just look at
everyone that leaves town.
1042
00:55:52,307 --> 00:55:55,143
Look and make sure everything
is on well. I'm worried.
1043
00:55:55,268 --> 00:55:57,187
This is anyway
coming undone here.
1044
00:56:02,901 --> 00:56:04,611
So let me go put that
on the disco comm.
1045
00:56:04,986 --> 00:56:07,906
Disco look, if we
can get in.
1046
00:56:08,406 --> 00:56:09,741
I think this is gonna be good.
1047
00:56:10,158 --> 00:56:12,285
This is like a classic '80s.
1048
00:56:13,536 --> 00:56:15,497
Early '80s hairdo.
1049
00:56:15,872 --> 00:56:18,416
I actually wore that
exactly like that.
1050
00:56:38,686 --> 00:56:41,022
When it's actually on display,
like on the mannequin
1051
00:56:41,106 --> 00:56:43,858
it feels like my life is
flashing in front of me.
1052
00:56:50,448 --> 00:56:51,574
People want a white wedding.
1053
00:56:51,658 --> 00:56:53,326
It wasn't my dream
to have a white wedding.
1054
00:56:53,409 --> 00:56:55,745
It wasn't my dream
to be married at all.
1055
00:56:55,870 --> 00:56:59,207
It wasn't my dream to have
a family and children.
It was just me
1056
00:56:59,916 --> 00:57:01,334
being me and living life
1057
00:57:01,417 --> 00:57:04,170
and if it comes, it comes
and it came and it was perfect.
1058
00:57:19,227 --> 00:57:22,313
I don't if I ever even thought
about getting married, but
I knew I wanted to marry her.
1059
00:57:29,696 --> 00:57:32,699
I hated the idea
of going and planning
a wedding for two years,
1060
00:57:32,782 --> 00:57:34,826
an engagement
and all that stuff.
1061
00:57:34,909 --> 00:57:36,369
It's too traditional for me.
1062
00:57:37,704 --> 00:57:40,582
I was doing this runway show
called Inspiration.
1063
00:57:40,665 --> 00:57:42,292
It was sponsored by Playboy.
1064
00:57:42,375 --> 00:57:44,669
So what better sponsorship
to have to get married?
1065
00:57:44,752 --> 00:57:48,131
So I said to David,
"Let's just get married
at end of the show,
1066
00:57:48,214 --> 00:57:49,674
and tell them
it was a surprise."
1067
00:57:49,966 --> 00:57:51,759
And, he loved the idea.
1068
00:58:00,977 --> 00:58:04,063
I was crying
when I saw Bailey
walking down the aisle.
1069
00:58:04,856 --> 00:58:05,940
So cute
1070
00:58:06,024 --> 00:58:08,443
in his little three-piece suit
1071
00:58:08,526 --> 00:58:10,904
and his little curly...
1072
00:58:11,446 --> 00:58:12,655
head of hair
1073
00:58:34,010 --> 00:58:35,762
David, do you take Susanne
1074
00:58:35,845 --> 00:58:37,889
to be your
lawful wedded wife?
1075
00:58:38,389 --> 00:58:40,975
As long as love lasts
between the both of you?
1076
00:58:45,605 --> 00:58:49,108
Susanne, do you take
David to be your
lawful wedded husband?
1077
00:58:49,526 --> 00:58:52,153
As long as love shall last
between the both of you?
1078
00:58:52,612 --> 00:58:53,446
Yes.
1079
00:59:01,204 --> 00:59:02,455
In a way, I was like,
1080
00:59:02,539 --> 00:59:04,832
"Look, we're doing
the traditional thing,
you know, getting married."
1081
00:59:05,458 --> 00:59:10,964
You know, I'm in my thong,
and she's in her big giant like,
egg-shaped veil.
1082
00:59:29,232 --> 00:59:31,067
Hey, fireman.
1083
00:59:31,526 --> 00:59:34,404
Look at him driving, wow!
1084
00:59:35,238 --> 00:59:38,032
I don't think we're
gonna catch that fire.
1085
00:59:46,791 --> 00:59:47,959
-Hello.
1086
00:59:48,376 --> 00:59:51,879
This is a kid cam
and let's have a look at me.
1087
00:59:52,213 --> 00:59:55,758
Hi, this is me, Bailey.
1088
00:59:56,467 --> 00:59:58,886
There must've been
a moment where she
was like, "Oh, wow!"
1089
00:59:59,095 --> 01:00:04,684
I’ve done it. I did what,
you know, have, like,
a nuclear family.
1090
01:00:05,101 --> 01:00:05,935
Um...
1091
01:00:06,477 --> 01:00:08,146
Of course, with a lot of bells
and whistles.
1092
01:00:08,229 --> 01:00:09,522
-I'm here's my--
-Are you filming?
1093
01:00:09,606 --> 01:00:11,357
-Yeah.
-Is it red?
1094
01:00:12,483 --> 01:00:14,319
-Cool.
-And here's my mom.
1095
01:00:15,236 --> 01:00:17,739
And now,
let's go to my room.
1096
01:00:18,531 --> 01:00:22,285
See my room.
That's my loft bed.
1097
01:00:22,410 --> 01:00:25,788
Growing up
in the Chelsea was...
1098
01:00:28,291 --> 01:00:31,628
Full of the most
colorful characters
1099
01:00:32,295 --> 01:00:35,798
that I have ever encountered,
and probably
ever will encounter.
1100
01:00:37,342 --> 01:00:38,843
People would
just be in costumes
1101
01:00:38,926 --> 01:00:41,804
in the lobby and just
kind of wander around lost.
1102
01:00:42,221 --> 01:00:43,431
It felt normal.
1103
01:00:43,556 --> 01:00:45,600
It felt like a big
weird family.
1104
01:00:46,643 --> 01:00:48,936
But then, my friends
would come over,
1105
01:00:49,020 --> 01:00:51,064
and they'd see these people
and like, "What's that?"
1106
01:00:51,356 --> 01:00:52,774
I just simply
couldn't explain it.
1107
01:00:53,441 --> 01:00:56,944
It's like, "No, that's
just him. He does that.
1108
01:00:57,236 --> 01:00:58,446
It's his life.
1109
01:00:58,988 --> 01:01:00,114
Fulfills him."
1110
01:01:00,823 --> 01:01:04,410
All of the satellites
around my parents,
1111
01:01:04,494 --> 01:01:09,582
all his friends who didn't
fit into any sort of box
1112
01:01:09,749 --> 01:01:12,669
were super sweet
and familial to me.
1113
01:01:12,794 --> 01:01:14,921
And they kind of thought
of me as like their own kid.
1114
01:01:18,841 --> 01:01:22,470
So, I had
a lot of positive, loving
1115
01:01:22,887 --> 01:01:24,764
relationships with everyone
1116
01:01:24,972 --> 01:01:28,685
that seemed
completely incapable
1117
01:01:28,768 --> 01:01:31,688
of these things almost,
by the way you see
them dress up.
1118
01:01:34,816 --> 01:01:37,318
I'm lucky that
my parents met.
1119
01:01:37,443 --> 01:01:40,154
I'm lucky that
they decided to keep the child
1120
01:01:40,238 --> 01:01:43,116
that they conceived
supposedly on a beach
in Miami.
1121
01:01:43,366 --> 01:01:46,452
They may not have been
together a year before
they conceived me.
1122
01:01:46,744 --> 01:01:48,913
And I know that
keeping me was a decision.
1123
01:01:49,747 --> 01:01:52,583
A lot of head scratching
and bitten lips.
1124
01:01:56,421 --> 01:02:01,008
My dad, a big cornerstone
of his parenting technique,
1125
01:02:01,092 --> 01:02:07,181
was very much about being
as honest with me
as he possibly could be.
1126
01:02:08,224 --> 01:02:09,517
I know that...
1127
01:02:10,893 --> 01:02:12,353
my mother felt differently.
1128
01:02:12,478 --> 01:02:14,939
Like there were certain things
that she really didn't want
1129
01:02:15,022 --> 01:02:16,524
him to be honest
with me about.
1130
01:02:16,607 --> 01:02:20,236
My father struggles with
addiction, with alcoholism.
1131
01:02:21,028 --> 01:02:23,656
My father wanted
to tell me about it
when I was very young.
1132
01:02:23,740 --> 01:02:25,366
Like, maybe I was six or seven.
1133
01:02:26,325 --> 01:02:28,286
And my mother
was very against it.
1134
01:02:28,619 --> 01:02:32,123
♪ Jingle bells, jingle bells
Jingle all the way... ♪
1135
01:02:32,290 --> 01:02:34,834
One lighter example,
Santa Claus.
1136
01:02:35,793 --> 01:02:38,838
She really wanted me
to think Santa was real.
1137
01:02:38,921 --> 01:02:40,798
Merry Christmas.
1138
01:02:41,716 --> 01:02:45,595
Wow! Look at
those gifty-wifty.
1139
01:02:45,887 --> 01:02:48,514
Bailey, look, let's start
opening 'em up, huh?
1140
01:02:51,476 --> 01:02:53,686
Yay!
1141
01:02:54,604 --> 01:02:56,814
You were right, Dad.
1142
01:02:58,900 --> 01:03:00,610
Hey, Little Mermaid.
1143
01:03:03,196 --> 01:03:04,238
Mom, look.
1144
01:03:04,322 --> 01:03:06,908
Oh, that's a human thing.
1145
01:03:06,991 --> 01:03:09,911
Let's ask Scuttle what it is.
1146
01:03:10,828 --> 01:03:13,164
Look how cute.
1147
01:03:18,252 --> 01:03:22,423
Look at Ariel, she just
got out of the water.
1148
01:03:22,715 --> 01:03:25,259
Gender wasn't even
really a consideration...
1149
01:03:26,469 --> 01:03:27,303
for my mother.
1150
01:03:28,054 --> 01:03:31,849
I didn't have to be defined
1151
01:03:32,517 --> 01:03:33,810
by the clothes I wore.
1152
01:03:34,018 --> 01:03:37,814
That definition would come
out of myself, you know.
1153
01:03:38,231 --> 01:03:39,649
Something deeper than that.
1154
01:03:44,278 --> 01:03:46,155
When you're shamed
at a young age,
1155
01:03:46,239 --> 01:03:48,074
can you really
ever get to the point
1156
01:03:48,157 --> 01:03:50,493
where you really
accept yourself?
1157
01:03:52,578 --> 01:03:54,413
I don't know.
That's a big question.
1158
01:03:56,666 --> 01:03:59,961
There was a guy in the town
who was mentally slow.
1159
01:04:00,753 --> 01:04:02,797
And he used to ring the bell
1160
01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:04,674
when the water
would be turned off.
1161
01:04:04,757 --> 01:04:06,425
The water
was often turned off.
1162
01:04:06,717 --> 01:04:08,928
Or, if there was a fire,
he would ring the bell.
1163
01:04:09,011 --> 01:04:10,596
And everybody in the town,
1164
01:04:10,680 --> 01:04:11,681
all the kids in the town
1165
01:04:11,764 --> 01:04:14,183
got him to ring the bell
when I would leave the house.
1166
01:04:14,725 --> 01:04:16,894
And say the queer
is on the street.
1167
01:04:16,978 --> 01:04:18,229
The queer is on the street.
1168
01:04:23,568 --> 01:04:25,069
I grew up in Virginia.
1169
01:04:25,236 --> 01:04:28,698
It was very secluded.
I thought like
I lived in a bubble.
1170
01:04:31,617 --> 01:04:33,202
I was raised Southern Baptist.
1171
01:04:33,286 --> 01:04:35,079
I hitchhiked to
New York after college.
1172
01:04:35,162 --> 01:04:36,414
It was an act of rebellion,
1173
01:04:36,497 --> 01:04:38,249
because my parents
forbid me to go.
1174
01:04:38,833 --> 01:04:40,543
I was living in, like,
1175
01:04:41,460 --> 01:04:43,045
a $4 a night
1176
01:04:43,796 --> 01:04:46,465
men's shelter for a while.
1177
01:04:47,717 --> 01:04:49,343
I was doing anything
just to be here.
1178
01:04:49,969 --> 01:04:52,305
I never felt like myself.
1179
01:04:52,471 --> 01:04:55,433
There wasn't a single
gay person that I knew of.
1180
01:04:55,683 --> 01:04:58,519
I didn't have any references.
1181
01:05:00,646 --> 01:05:02,857
I was clueless
about the culture.
1182
01:05:04,108 --> 01:05:05,693
I didn't even know
there were gays.
1183
01:05:06,652 --> 01:05:08,070
Yeah, how about
you come up tonight
1184
01:05:08,154 --> 01:05:09,906
I want you to get up here
as fast as you can.
1185
01:05:09,989 --> 01:05:11,782
-Is that your mother?
-Yeah.
1186
01:05:12,199 --> 01:05:13,618
It was a time when,
1187
01:05:13,951 --> 01:05:15,661
um, growing up,
1188
01:05:15,745 --> 01:05:17,955
a queer in America
was not easy.
1189
01:05:18,789 --> 01:05:21,626
My mother and my grandmother
were so totally supportive.
1190
01:05:21,959 --> 01:05:24,921
It was just never an issue.
And it was something which--
1191
01:05:25,004 --> 01:05:26,505
I don't know if I realized,
1192
01:05:26,756 --> 01:05:29,008
at the time,
how important it was.
1193
01:05:29,091 --> 01:05:31,802
But it just made
my life so much easier.
1194
01:05:32,011 --> 01:05:34,597
Being closeted is
a really profound journey
1195
01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:38,142
of isolation and just
a fear and self-loathing.
1196
01:05:38,893 --> 01:05:41,312
You just can't
believe to yourself
1197
01:05:42,438 --> 01:05:44,690
that you put yourself
through that for 37 years.
1198
01:05:45,608 --> 01:05:48,069
Oh, people have always
assumed that I was gay.
1199
01:05:48,527 --> 01:05:50,655
At some point
in a straight relationship,
1200
01:05:50,738 --> 01:05:52,114
because I'm straight.
1201
01:05:52,531 --> 01:05:53,991
The question becomes,
1202
01:05:54,408 --> 01:05:55,618
"Well, everybody
thinks you're gay.
1203
01:05:55,701 --> 01:05:56,702
Are you gay?"
1204
01:05:57,662 --> 01:06:00,831
In some ways, I feel like it
would be easier if I was gay.
1205
01:06:01,457 --> 01:06:04,460
Because, then at least
it would be straightforward.
1206
01:06:04,669 --> 01:06:06,879
People would say, "Okay,
you're a homosexual man."
1207
01:06:07,088 --> 01:06:08,965
This is what you do.
That makes sense.
1208
01:06:09,173 --> 01:06:11,342
But no, with me,
it's a whiplash.
1209
01:06:15,346 --> 01:06:18,265
People think that, you know, we're, like, kinky people or something.
1210
01:06:18,349 --> 01:06:21,102
We're a married
monogamous couple
1211
01:06:21,185 --> 01:06:23,980
that has sex
with each other only.
1212
01:06:24,063 --> 01:06:24,897
That's all we want.
1213
01:06:27,233 --> 01:06:29,610
A man should be able
to wear more clothes.
1214
01:06:29,694 --> 01:06:31,320
A man should be
able to wear makeup.
1215
01:06:31,404 --> 01:06:33,656
Gender is learned.
1216
01:06:34,281 --> 01:06:35,992
All these things
that we learn,
1217
01:06:36,075 --> 01:06:38,244
people have talked for years,
and years and years and years.
1218
01:06:38,828 --> 01:06:40,246
Gender is a construct.
1219
01:06:40,329 --> 01:06:42,039
You can play
with that construct
1220
01:06:42,164 --> 01:06:43,874
or you can break
that construct.
1221
01:06:44,291 --> 01:06:46,252
Actually, a huge
part of what I do,
1222
01:06:47,336 --> 01:06:52,383
is sort of, in response to
how men show themselves.
1223
01:06:52,758 --> 01:06:54,844
The box that
we put ourselves into,
1224
01:06:54,927 --> 01:06:57,179
allow ourselves
to be placed into,
1225
01:06:57,680 --> 01:06:59,724
I've always found insulting,
1226
01:07:00,474 --> 01:07:02,643
sad, limited,
1227
01:07:03,394 --> 01:07:05,104
um, and pathetic.
1228
01:07:05,396 --> 01:07:07,773
You know, men are afraid
to be seen as homosexual.
1229
01:07:08,482 --> 01:07:10,693
Try wearing a pink suit
down the street.
1230
01:07:10,943 --> 01:07:14,739
Just a suit,
a nice fitted designer suit
1231
01:07:15,448 --> 01:07:16,615
that's baby pink.
1232
01:07:16,824 --> 01:07:18,784
And se what people say.
1233
01:07:19,368 --> 01:07:20,494
Most men wouldn't do that.
1234
01:07:20,786 --> 01:07:23,080
Just 'cause
of the fucking color.
1235
01:07:23,748 --> 01:07:25,624
Everybody out, let's go!
1236
01:07:25,708 --> 01:07:28,335
I had over 100 felonies.
1237
01:07:28,794 --> 01:07:31,213
Even though all the felonies
1238
01:07:31,297 --> 01:07:33,799
were because I was
a man in a dress.
1239
01:07:34,550 --> 01:07:38,054
And even though all the felonies were given to me by another man
1240
01:07:38,137 --> 01:07:39,180
in a dress.
1241
01:07:40,473 --> 01:07:42,892
His dress was black
and mine was gawdy.
1242
01:07:43,893 --> 01:07:45,186
So I got the felony.
1243
01:07:47,605 --> 01:07:51,150
One of my friends took me
to a bar that had a drag queen
1244
01:07:51,233 --> 01:07:53,986
singing, and I was so
1245
01:07:54,612 --> 01:07:57,573
bothered by it,
I think, I don't know.
1246
01:07:58,074 --> 01:08:00,201
Because it just,
it felt so...
1247
01:08:00,618 --> 01:08:03,120
At the time, unnatural.
I'd never seen anything
like that.
1248
01:08:03,204 --> 01:08:04,538
So I just was like,
1249
01:08:04,622 --> 01:08:07,833
"What is this, like, what?"
I couldn't like figure it out.
1250
01:08:09,418 --> 01:08:12,922
There was something about them
that was similar to me
1251
01:08:13,297 --> 01:08:14,548
deep down.
1252
01:08:15,216 --> 01:08:17,176
My character, my persona
1253
01:08:17,802 --> 01:08:20,596
is neither female or male.
1254
01:08:21,263 --> 01:08:24,767
It's just something
or some kind of character.
1255
01:08:25,601 --> 01:08:30,231
And when I go out into clubs,
people come up, "Oh,
we love you, what are you?"
1256
01:08:30,731 --> 01:08:33,692
And I'm like, "When you
figure that out, write me
a letter, dear."
1257
01:08:34,527 --> 01:08:36,612
But the young kids come up
and they say,
1258
01:08:36,695 --> 01:08:38,447
"We love you
1259
01:08:38,906 --> 01:08:40,658
because you're not
trying to identify."
1260
01:08:49,250 --> 01:08:52,795
All of these labels
can't really define anybody.
1261
01:08:58,926 --> 01:09:01,053
Who is Kenny? You know,
1262
01:09:01,512 --> 01:09:04,431
this boy that doesn't
do boyish things.
1263
01:09:04,557 --> 01:09:07,643
This overly-sensitive child...
1264
01:09:08,811 --> 01:09:11,772
who is definitely
not fitting into the world
1265
01:09:11,856 --> 01:09:13,732
that he was born into.
1266
01:09:16,152 --> 01:09:17,444
I think if people didn't
1267
01:09:17,570 --> 01:09:19,363
put limitations on each other,
1268
01:09:19,488 --> 01:09:21,157
that would be utopia.
1269
01:09:21,740 --> 01:09:23,951
I mean, that
would be perfection.
1270
01:09:25,744 --> 01:09:28,747
In Susanne's parties,
I think, people are fluid.
1271
01:09:28,831 --> 01:09:32,084
There isn't a clear,
"You're gay, you're straight
1272
01:09:32,168 --> 01:09:34,837
you're this, you're that,
you're a man, you're a woman."
1273
01:09:34,962 --> 01:09:36,088
And she wants that.
1274
01:09:36,213 --> 01:09:38,507
She encourages people to say,
1275
01:09:38,841 --> 01:09:40,593
"What are you? Express it.
1276
01:09:40,718 --> 01:09:43,053
What are you today?
Express that."
1277
01:09:43,345 --> 01:09:46,265
That's what Susanne
is, and always has been about.
1278
01:09:46,682 --> 01:09:49,393
And in some small way,
1279
01:09:49,476 --> 01:09:51,312
or, in some cases, a major way,
1280
01:09:51,395 --> 01:09:53,522
that influence
is from the ground up,
1281
01:09:53,772 --> 01:09:56,567
how the world turns,
challenging the normal,
1282
01:09:56,775 --> 01:10:00,237
confronting it,
but in a way that's only fun.
1283
01:10:00,446 --> 01:10:01,822
That is beautiful.
1284
01:10:05,826 --> 01:10:08,495
To the people that say
that we're freaks,
1285
01:10:09,747 --> 01:10:10,956
I would say,
1286
01:10:12,791 --> 01:10:14,668
everybody's mama
raised them different.
1287
01:10:16,253 --> 01:10:18,631
You look cute, Bailey Bailey.
What are you doing?
1288
01:10:38,442 --> 01:10:39,401
Get in there.
1289
01:10:53,999 --> 01:10:56,043
Oh, fuck.
1290
01:11:17,398 --> 01:11:19,233
There's nothing in here.
1291
01:11:19,900 --> 01:11:21,151
When it rains
1292
01:11:21,443 --> 01:11:23,487
the water is running
down to here
1293
01:11:23,696 --> 01:11:25,864
-and it always comes...
-It's wet right there.
1294
01:11:27,241 --> 01:11:28,075
Yeah.
1295
01:11:28,158 --> 01:11:30,744
It is, you know, I seem
to have a hard time
1296
01:11:30,828 --> 01:11:32,121
-coming here. Now, I'm...
-I know.
1297
01:11:32,204 --> 01:11:34,331
-If I come, I have to be
coming on my own.
-Yeah.
1298
01:11:34,415 --> 01:11:35,791
Which is gonna be
a little bit, like,
1299
01:11:35,874 --> 01:11:37,167
I don't know.
I have to get used to it.
1300
01:11:43,590 --> 01:11:44,925
We got this house,
1301
01:11:45,259 --> 01:11:50,139
like a little oasis for our
superscented new life together.
1302
01:12:03,068 --> 01:12:05,070
You know, I didn't
want a broken family
1303
01:12:05,154 --> 01:12:07,197
because, you know, in the end,
my family was broken too.
1304
01:12:07,281 --> 01:12:09,408
And that was the base thing
I don't think that would repeat.
1305
01:12:13,912 --> 01:12:16,957
I heard myself talk.
1306
01:12:27,551 --> 01:12:30,012
-There's my husband.
1307
01:12:31,805 --> 01:12:33,766
This is great footage, right?
1308
01:12:39,897 --> 01:12:42,441
Helen, maybe you could
also do the neck.
1309
01:12:43,150 --> 01:12:45,569
While you are at it.
Look how much I have.
1310
01:12:48,155 --> 01:12:50,240
I love it, doctor.
That's what I need.
1311
01:12:50,657 --> 01:12:51,492
Okay?
1312
01:12:56,789 --> 01:12:58,916
Make an old bag look like 20.
1313
01:13:16,183 --> 01:13:18,310
I didn't have a good job,
if you were asking.
1314
01:13:18,394 --> 01:13:20,312
'Cause a breast fell
and everything.
1315
01:13:20,938 --> 01:13:24,525
I remember a moment
when I was separated
I was like, "Oh, the boobs."
1316
01:13:25,067 --> 01:13:27,569
A bit of a pride there.
1317
01:13:28,904 --> 01:13:31,532
I had my eyelids done.
1318
01:13:31,824 --> 01:13:34,493
In 19, what,
2000 something.
1319
01:13:34,743 --> 01:13:37,996
My eyes were really
droopy, my lids. So,
I had the lids done.
1320
01:13:45,796 --> 01:13:49,049
Certainly I'm single.
And I'm not 18 anymore.
I'm like, "Oops."
1321
01:13:55,305 --> 01:13:56,765
It's something I didn't
wanna experience.
1322
01:13:56,849 --> 01:13:58,517
But I'm experiencing it now.
1323
01:14:08,110 --> 01:14:10,404
It's a bit more than
splitting up
and being single,
1324
01:14:10,487 --> 01:14:12,072
the kid left too.
1325
01:14:13,866 --> 01:14:16,201
Many years of your life
to raise a child
1326
01:14:16,285 --> 01:14:18,912
and that son is grown up
and he goes off.
1327
01:14:22,666 --> 01:14:25,210
I think what's aging
fast with people
1328
01:14:25,294 --> 01:14:27,880
and I noticed that
they sort of give up.
1329
01:14:27,963 --> 01:14:29,631
I noticed
some people give up.
1330
01:14:32,134 --> 01:14:35,554
And, I hate the idea of
not having the energy
that I'm used to,
1331
01:14:36,555 --> 01:14:38,974
the drive to make
all the things work.
1332
01:14:39,057 --> 01:14:40,225
Because when I do an event,
1333
01:14:40,309 --> 01:14:42,352
it's every time
it's like a new play.
1334
01:14:42,436 --> 01:14:44,605
You do all this work
and then you
have to start all over.
1335
01:14:44,688 --> 01:14:47,024
Poof, it's gone.
Can't repeat it.
It's done.
1336
01:14:49,860 --> 01:14:52,988
A moment in the night
in everyone's life,
1337
01:14:53,071 --> 01:14:55,741
that moment,
are they gonna show up?
1338
01:14:56,033 --> 01:14:59,536
Are they gonna like it?
I don't wanna have a flop.
1339
01:15:02,164 --> 01:15:04,625
Divine died young.
That was a good idea.
1340
01:15:05,000 --> 01:15:06,335
Just kidding.
1341
01:15:06,877 --> 01:15:11,381
There's something to dying
when you're active.
1342
01:15:11,465 --> 01:15:12,925
I don't wanna die
when I'm at home.
1343
01:15:13,008 --> 01:15:14,510
Because no one
will know me anymore.
1344
01:15:14,593 --> 01:15:16,428
I don't want Bailey
to worry about me.
1345
01:15:16,512 --> 01:15:18,722
And as he gets
any sense of me,
1346
01:15:18,805 --> 01:15:20,432
he knows I lived a life,
1347
01:15:20,516 --> 01:15:21,975
and I did things that...
1348
01:15:23,185 --> 01:15:25,145
I laughed,
and that inspired me
1349
01:15:25,229 --> 01:15:26,897
and in turn, I
hope it inspires him.
1350
01:15:31,068 --> 01:15:33,529
Maybe I don't tell her
I'm proud of her enough.
1351
01:15:33,654 --> 01:15:35,781
Because I am
super proud of her.
1352
01:15:36,198 --> 01:15:40,786
It's tough to ask ourselves,
"What have we done?
1353
01:15:40,994 --> 01:15:42,788
What has been
our contribution?
1354
01:15:43,372 --> 01:15:44,623
Has it all been worth it?"
1355
01:15:45,999 --> 01:15:49,545
Her contributions
to the world happen
late at night
1356
01:15:49,628 --> 01:15:51,213
and it's like
dust in the wind.
1357
01:15:52,756 --> 01:15:55,634
I would certainly say that
she has been successful.
1358
01:15:56,134 --> 01:15:59,012
But I don't know
if she feels that way.
1359
01:16:30,544 --> 01:16:32,963
-Hi, how are you?
-I brought you flowers.
1360
01:16:33,130 --> 01:16:35,299
-Congratulations.
-Oh, thank you.
1361
01:16:35,382 --> 01:16:37,342
It's your big day. I feel
like you're getting married.
1362
01:16:37,426 --> 01:16:39,595
-I'm gonna try it.
1363
01:16:39,720 --> 01:16:42,097
That was not a big day,
me getting married.
1364
01:16:42,264 --> 01:16:44,891
-I'm not like you.
Planning the wedding.
1365
01:16:45,434 --> 01:16:48,186
I feel like,
I feel emotional.
1366
01:16:49,938 --> 01:16:51,106
It's not good with makeup.
1367
01:16:51,189 --> 01:16:53,317
Keep the mascara light.
1368
01:17:39,738 --> 01:17:40,822
Hi.
1369
01:17:42,949 --> 01:17:44,534
-It's up?
-Yeah that's right.
1370
01:17:52,459 --> 01:17:55,087
You like it, right?
Oops, it's stuck.
1371
01:18:08,725 --> 01:18:11,269
I like it. All right,
what do you think?
1372
01:18:11,353 --> 01:18:13,021
Yeah. Everybody's
happy for you.
1373
01:18:31,206 --> 01:18:33,959
Oh, my God!
Oh, my God!
1374
01:18:35,377 --> 01:18:36,712
-You like it?
-Yeah.
1375
01:18:38,588 --> 01:18:40,006
I love you, Susanne.
1376
01:18:44,720 --> 01:18:46,221
-Did you see it?
-I'm going right now.
1377
01:18:46,304 --> 01:18:47,973
Oh, go. Let me know
what you think.
1378
01:18:49,224 --> 01:18:51,143
-Did you see the exhibition?
-Not yet.
1379
01:18:51,268 --> 01:18:53,228
Go see. I wanna see
what you think. Go.
1380
01:18:55,230 --> 01:18:56,898
Susanne!
1381
01:19:01,778 --> 01:19:04,281
Oh, my god.
Have you seen it yet?
1382
01:19:04,364 --> 01:19:07,367
-No, I just got here.
-Go, I want your opinion.
1383
01:19:11,872 --> 01:19:14,499
-Did you see the exhibition?
-Not really.
1384
01:19:37,481 --> 01:19:39,566
Tonight we're
about nostalgia
1385
01:19:39,649 --> 01:19:42,027
and celebrating the past, but
we're looking forward.
1386
01:19:44,154 --> 01:19:46,990
[Bartsch] It's about--
It's about now.
1387
01:19:47,115 --> 01:19:50,076
Tonight is about right now.
It's like people
come and they're wondering
1388
01:19:50,327 --> 01:19:52,996
is this the right place?
Oh, there's a celebrity
over there.
1389
01:19:53,079 --> 01:19:55,165
It's like the moment is here.
1390
01:19:55,874 --> 01:19:59,252
I find a little bit of that
dressing and I'd save the
impulse and the adventure.
1391
01:19:59,336 --> 01:20:00,629
You don't really know...
1392
01:20:01,129 --> 01:20:02,297
Very nice.
1393
01:20:02,380 --> 01:20:03,673
Okay.
1394
01:20:23,652 --> 01:20:26,029
Oh, my god,
Bailey, I miss you. Oops.
1395
01:20:29,199 --> 01:20:31,952
I wish you were here.
It's really nice.
1396
01:20:32,285 --> 01:20:33,703
It's really nice.
1397
01:20:35,247 --> 01:20:37,249
You're why I'm doing this.
1398
01:20:37,582 --> 01:20:39,876
I mean, yes, you are.
1399
01:20:40,001 --> 01:20:41,461
Yes, you are.
1400
01:20:42,212 --> 01:20:44,965
You are, you are.
You give me a purpose.
1401
01:20:45,090 --> 01:20:47,342
You give me a purpose
to leave a legacy.
1402
01:20:47,509 --> 01:20:50,053
I love you so much.
Good night, monkey.
1403
01:20:50,220 --> 01:20:51,721
Come here.
Bailey's on the phone.
1404
01:20:52,389 --> 01:20:53,515
-Hi, monkey.
-Susanne?
1405
01:21:01,398 --> 01:21:04,693
Are you coming
to the after party?
1406
01:21:05,193 --> 01:21:06,903
No, I'm too old.
1407
01:21:09,573 --> 01:21:11,616
I know that.
I know that feeling.
1408
01:21:22,085 --> 01:21:23,753
Yeah, I think
time's actually flying.
1409
01:21:24,170 --> 01:21:25,338
I mean, it's just...
1410
01:21:27,716 --> 01:21:29,050
Really. Doesn't everybody?
1411
01:21:30,510 --> 01:21:33,388
Isn't it the fast time?
Life's gotten fast.
1412
01:22:40,664 --> 01:22:43,416
-Okay, let's cut the fucking...
-Yeah.
1413
01:23:41,891 --> 01:23:43,893
Oh, my god.
1414
01:25:57,902 --> 01:26:00,655
That's it, babe. [laughs]
Good night.
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