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>> John: HI THERE!
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WELCOME TO THE SHOW,
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STILL, UNFORTUNATELY,
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TAKING PLACE IN THIS BLANK VOID.
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THINK OF IT LIKE PRINCE PHILIP,
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IN THAT IT'S WHITE,
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DOESN'T DO ANYTHING,
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AND I THOUGHT FOR SURE IT'D BE
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GONE BY NOW.
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AND WE HAVE TO DIVE STRAIGHT IN
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WITH TUESDAY'S HORRIFIC EVENTS
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IN THE ATLANTA AREA,
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WHERE A GUNMAN
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KILLED EIGHT PEOPLE,
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SIX OF THEM ASIAN WOMEN,
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AT THREE DIFFERENT SPAS.
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AND SYMPATHY FOR THE VICTIMS HAS
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POURED OUT ACROSS THE COUNTRY,
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ALTHOUGH THERE'VE BEEN SOME
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TERRIBLE REACTIONS, TOO --
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LIKE THE ONE FROM THIS OFFICER
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WHO BRIEFED THE PRESS.
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>> THERE ARE A LOT OF CONCERNS
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ABOUT THIS STATEMENT, WHICH MANY
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FEEL APPEARS TO SYMPATHIZE WITH
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THE SHOOTER AND NOT HIS ALLEGED
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VICTIMS.
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>> I SPOKE WITH INVESTIGATORS.
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THEY INTERVIEWED HIM THIS
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MORNING AND I -- THEY GOT THAT
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IMPRESSION THAT, YES, HE -- HE
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UNDERSTOOD THE GRAVITY OF IT
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AND HE WAS PRETTY MUCH FED UP,
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AT THE END OF HIS ROPE.
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AND -- AND YESTERDAY WAS
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A REALLY BAD DAY FOR HIM.
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AND THIS IS WHAT HE DID.
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>> John: OKAY, ABSOLUTELY
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FUCKING NOT.
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YOU GET THAT THIS IS A PRESS
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CONFERENCE ABOUT A MASS MURDER,
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RIGHT?
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YOU DON'T GET TO MINIMIZE WHAT
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HAPPENED LIKE THAT.
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"REALLY BAD DAY?"
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ALEXANDER HAD A TERRIBLE,
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HORRIBLE, NO GOOD, VERY BAD DAY,
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AND WHAT HE DID WAS SHRUG IT
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THE FUCK OFF AND GO TO BED WHILE
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MANAGING TO MURDER ZERO PEOPLE.
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THAT COP EVEN WENT ON TO REPEAT
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THE SHOOTER'S CLAIMS THAT HIS
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ATTACKS WEREN'T RACIALLY
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MOTIVATED; INSTEAD,
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HIS "SEXUAL ADDICTION" WAS
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TO BLAME FOR THE KILLINGS.
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WHICH ALREADY FEELS LIKE A
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WEIRD DISTINCTION TO BE MAKING.
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"HEY!
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I MIGHT BE A MASS-MURDERER,
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BUT WATCH WHO YOU CALL A RACIST,
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BUDDY!
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WORDS HURT!"
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AND WHILE IT IS STILL EARLY,
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DETAILS ARE STILL COMING OUT,
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AND AUTHORITIES SEEM UNWILLING
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TO CALL THIS A HATE CRIME.
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I WILL SAY, A WHITE MAN
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DRIVING ACROSS COUNTIES
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TO TWO DIFFERENT TOWNS,
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GOING TO THREE ASIAN-OWNED
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BUSINESSES, SHOOTING AND KILLING
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SIX ASIAN WOMEN, IN A CITY
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THAT'S ONLY ABOUT 4% ASIAN
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SURE AS SHIT SEEMS A LOT MORE
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LIKE A HATE CRIME THAN
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"A BAD FUCKING DAY."
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AND THIS IS JUST THE LATEST DATA
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POINT IN A DISTURBING PATTERN.
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ONE GROUP TRACKING HATE-RELATED
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INCIDENTS AGAINST
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ASIAN-AMERICANS -- WHICH INCLUDE
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PHYSICAL ASSAULTS,
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VERBAL HARASSMENT, AND
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CIVIL RIGHTS VIOLATIONS LIKE
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REFUSAL OF SERVICE -- FOUND
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NEARLY 3800 REPORTED IN JUST
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THE PAST YEAR.
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IT'S AN ABSOLUTELY TERRIBLE
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TREND THAT PRESIDENT BIDEN SPOKE
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ABOUT JUST LAST WEEK.
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>> VICIOUS HATE CRIMES AGAINST
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ASIAN-AMERICANS, WHO'VE BEEN
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ATTACKED, HARASSED, BLAMED, AND
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SCAPEGOATED.
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IT'S WRONG, IT'S UN-AMERICAN,
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AND IT MUST STOP.
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>> John: YEAH.
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IT MUST.
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AND I AM REALLY GLAD HE
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CONDEMNED HATE CRIMES AGAINST
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ASIAN-AMERICANS THERE, BUT TO
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SAY THAT THEY ARE "UN-AMERICAN?"
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I'D LOVE TO VISIT THE NATION
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THAT EXISTS IN JOE BIDEN'S HEAD,
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BECAUSE IT'S A PLACE WHERE
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RACISM "IS NOT WHO WE ARE" AND
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RACIAL ATTACKS AGAINST ASIANS
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ARE SOMEHOW "UN-AMERICAN,"
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DESPITE THE FACT -- AND FAR BE
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IT FROM ME TO EXPLAIN THIS TO
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SOMEONE WHO SEEMS LIKE HE'S
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LIVED THROUGH MOST OF AMERICAN
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HISTORY -- ANTI-ASIAN RACISM HAS
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LONG BEEN A FACT OF AMERICAN
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LIFE.
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FROM THE TREATMENT OF
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CHINESE RAILROAD WORKERS
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IN THE 1800s, THROUGH
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THE CHINESE EXCLUSION ACT,
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THROUGH THE WATSONVILLE RIOTS
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IN 1930, IN WHICH A WHITE MOB
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RAMPAGED THROUGH A FILIPINO
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COMMUNITY,
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THROUGH THE INTERNMENT OF
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JAPANESE AMERICANS DURING
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WORLD WAR II, THROUGH DEADLY
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CASES OF RACIAL SCAPEGOATING
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LIKE THE MURDER OF VINCENT CHIN,
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KILLED IN 1982 BY TWO
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WHITE AUTOWORKERS IN DETROIT.
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WITNESSES SAID THE MEN MISTOOK
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CHIN, A CHINESE-AMERICAN, FOR
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BEING JAPANESE, BLAMED HIM FOR
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TAKING THEIR JOBS, AND BEAT HIM
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TO DEATH.
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AND BY THE WAY, EVEN THOUGH
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THEY'D REPORTEDLY USED
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RACIAL SLURS DURING THE ATTACK,
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THE MEN STILL TRIED TO CLAIM
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THEY WERE NOT MOTIVATED BY RACE.
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SO NOT ONLY ARE HATE CRIMES
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AGAINST ASIAN-AMERICANS VERY
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MUCH "AMERICAN," SO IS DENYING
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THAT THEY'RE RACIST.
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IT'S ALL SO AMERICAN, IN FACT,
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THE NATIONAL ANTHEM COULD
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PROBABLY BEGIN:
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"OH, SAY CAN YOU SEE
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THAT THIS WASN'T ABOUT RACE."
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AND OUR LONG, UGLY HISTORY OF
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ANTI-ASIAN RACISM -- AND THE
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FACT IT OFTEN PEAKS DURING TIMES
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OF CRISIS -- IS THE VERY REASON
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WHY, JUST LAST YEAR, MANY WERE
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LOUDLY WARNING THAT TRUMP
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CALLING COVID NAMES LIKE
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"THE CHINA VIRUS" WAS LIKELY TO
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LEAD TO A RISE IN VIOLENCE
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AGAINST PEOPLE OF ASIAN DESCENT,
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AN ARGUMENT THAT AT THE TIME,
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NOT EVERYONE SEEMED TO FIND
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CONVINCING.
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>> I THINK IF THE LEFT WANTS TO
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FOCUS ON PC LABELING THIS VIRUS,
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IT IS A GREAT WAY TO GET TRUMP
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REELECTED.
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I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH
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PEOPLE CALLING IT WHATEVER THEY
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WANT.
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IT'S A DEADLY VIRUS THAT DID
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ORIGINATE IN WUHAN.
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I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT.
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>> John: OH, GOOD!
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MEGHAN McCAIN DOESN'T
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HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT!
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LISTEN NOT TO THE SCORES OF
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ASIAN-AMERICANS TELLING EVERYONE
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THAT THE TERM IS DANGEROUS AND
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OFFENSIVE!
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INSTEAD, GATHER ROUND,
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AND TAKE THE WORD OF A WEALTHY
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WHITE WOMAN WHO'S DRESSED LIKE
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SHE'S ABOUT TO LAY OFF 47 PEOPLE
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OVER ZOOM.
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NOW, I WILL SAY, McCAIN POSTED
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THIS WEEK, "STOP ASIAN HATE"
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WITH THREE BROKEN HEART EMOJIS.
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WHICH IS A FINE SENTIMENT TO
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THROW UP ON TWITTER AFTER THE
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FACT, BUT THERE HAS TO BE AN
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UNDERSTANDING THAT SAYING,
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"I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH
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CALLING IT THE CHINA VIRUS"
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IS VERY MUCH GIVING SPACE FOR
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THAT HATE TO GROW.
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AND THE MINIMIZATION OF RACIST
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RHETORIC PLAYS INTO THE HARMFUL
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STEREOTYPE OF ASIAN-AMERICANS AS
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A "MODEL MINORITY," PITTING THEM
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AGAINST OTHER MINORITY GROUPS
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AND PRESSURING THEM TO SWALLOW
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THEIR EXPERIENCES WITH RACISM
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WITHOUT MAKING A STINK, BECAUSE
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THAT'S HOW YOU EARN
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WHITE ACCEPTANCE.
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AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT TAKES
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ITS TOLL.
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JUST LISTEN TO BASKETBALL PLAYER
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JEREMY LIN, WHO RECENTLY
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REVEALED THAT HE'D BEEN CALLED
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"CORONAVIRUS" ON THE COURT, AND
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SPOKE ABOUT THE EVENTS OF THIS
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WEEK.
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>> ASIANS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN --
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HAVE BEEN PROJECTED AS BEING
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OTHERS OR OUTSIDERS AND YOU
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CAN -- YOU CAN HEAR AND SEE
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THESE MICROAGGRESSIONS, IN LIKE,
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"OH, NO, WHERE ARE YOU REALLY
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FROM?"
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OR, YOU KNOW, TALKING ABOUT THE
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WAY WE LOOK OR OUR COMPLEXION
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AND, AGAIN, CALLING IT THE CHINA
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VIRUS, KUNG FLU VIRUS, THAT IS
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ADDING TO IT, FUELING THE FIRE,
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AND NOW WE'RE STARTING TO SEE A
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LOT OF THOSE MICROAGGRESSIONS
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TURN INTO ACTUAL ACTS OF
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VIOLENCE.
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>> John: RIGHT.
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COMMENTS LIKE, "WHERE ARE YOU
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REALLY FROM?" ARE CONSTANT
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REMINDERS OF HOW
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ASIAN-AMERICANS ARE REGARDED AS
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OUTSIDERS, AS PEOPLE WHO DON'T
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BELONG.
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AND THE FACT IS, "WHERE ARE YOU
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REALLY FROM?" IS JUST NOT AN
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APPROPRIATE QUESTION TO ASK
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ANYONE, UNLESS THEY'VE JUST
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OPENED UP THEIR TORSO TO REVEAL
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A TINY ALIEN SQUID OPERATING
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A ROBOT BODY.
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AND EVEN THEN, HONESTLY, IT'S
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STILL A BIT IFFY.
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"WELL MY PARENTS ARE FROM
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RIGEL VII, BUT I WAS BORN IN
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CINCINNATI, YOU DICK!"
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THE COMFORT PEOPLE HAVE WITH
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DIMINISHING AND OTHERING ASIANS
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IS PERVASIVE.
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EVEN THAT OFFICER YOU SAW
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EARLIER WAS LAST YEAR PROMOTING
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T-SHIRTS ON HIS FACEBOOK PAGE
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CALLING COVID-19 AN
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"IMPORTED VIRUS FROM CHY-NA."
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AND THE FACT THE KILLER CHOSE
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THESE PARTICULAR WOMEN,
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WORKING LOW-WAGE JOBS, AS
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TARGETS FOR HIS "SEX ADDICTION"
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SPEAKS TO HOW ASIAN-AMERICAN
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WOMEN, IN PARTICULAR, HAVE TO
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DEAL WITH HYPERSEXUALIZATION,
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AND HOW ASIAN WORKERS TO THE
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EXTENT THAT THEY ARE SEEN AT ALL
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ARE SEEN MORE FOR THE LABOR THAT
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THEY PROVIDE RATHER THAN THE
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FULL THREE-DIMENSIONAL HUMANS
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THAT THEY ARE.
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SO THERE'S PRETTY CLEARLY A LOT
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THAT NEEDS TO BE CONFRONTED
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HERE, AS MANY HAVE BEEN POINTING
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OUT.
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>> I'M GLAD THAT WE'RE STARTING
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TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION,
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BUT THIS CANNOT BE IT.
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ASIAN-AMERICAN WOMEN HAVE BEEN
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LONG INVISIBLE IN THIS SOCIETY.
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RIGHT?
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YOU KNOW, WE'RE BEING TOLD THIS
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IS NOT A RACIST INCIDENT.
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IT IS A RACIST INCIDENT BECAUSE
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OF THE WAY ASIAN-AMERICAN WOMEN
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EXPERIENCE RACISM IN OUR
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COUNTRY.
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>> John: EXACTLY.
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THIS ISN'T JUST A CONVERSATION
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ABOUT THIS WEEK.
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IT'S A CONVERSATION ABOUT
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THE CENTURIES LEADING UP TO IT.
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NOW, SOME HAVE RESPONDED BY
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CALLING FOR INCREASED POLICE
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PRESENCE, ALTHOUGH OTHERS ARE
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UNDERSTANDABLY WARY OF "MORE
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POLICE" BEING A GOOD SOLUTION.
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MORE GUYS LIKE "DEPUTY OOPS ALL
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FOREHEAD" HERE AREN'T LIKELY TO
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MAKE ASIAN-AMERICANS, OR,
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INDEED, OTHER COMMUNITIES OF
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COLOR AROUND THEM, FEEL MUCH
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SAFER.
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OTHERS HAVE SUGGESTED SOLUTIONS
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FROM CONNECTING VICTIMS OF
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TRAUMA TO SUPPORT AFTER THE
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FACT, TO IMPROVING COLLECTION
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AND REPORTING OF STATISTICS
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ON ANTI-ASIAN VIOLENCE AND
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DISCRIMINATION, SO WE HAVE
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A MUCH MORE COMPLETE PICTURE OF
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WHAT'S HAPPENING.
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AND IF YOU DO WANT TO HELP,
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THERE ARE SOME GREAT
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ORGANIZATIONS LIKE THESE ONES
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THAT COULD REALLY USE YOUR HELP.
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LOOK, ASIAN-AMERICAN AND
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ASIAN IMMIGRANT COMMUNITIES
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HAVE BEEN FEELING EXTREMELY
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VULNERABLE FOR A LONG TIME,
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AND ESPECIALLY SO RIGHT NOW.
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AND FOR A GROUP WHOSE SUFFERING
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HAS HISTORICALLY FELT INVISIBLE
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TO THE MEDIA AND THE COUNTRY AT
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LARGE, IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE
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ACKNOWLEDGE THAT PAIN RIGHT NOW.
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BUT MORE THAN THAT, DISMANTLING
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ANTI-ASIAN PREJUDICE SHOULD BE
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ANOTHER KEY PART OF DISMANTLING
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THE CHOKEHOLD THAT
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WHITE SUPREMACY HAS
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ON THIS COUNTRY.
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BECAUSE AS WE'VE SEEN SINCE ITS
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FOUNDATION, AND CONTINUED TO SEE
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THIS WEEK, PEOPLE WILL BEND OVER
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BACKWARDS TO CALL RACISM
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ANYTHING OTHER THAN WHAT IT IS.
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AND THAT IS UNFORTUNATELY VERY
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FUCKING AMERICAN.
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AND NOW THIS.
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♪ ♪
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>> Announcer: AND NOW...
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EVEN DURING A PANDEMIC,
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LOCAL NEWS CANNOT BE TRUSTED
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WITH ST. PATRICK'S DAY.
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>> TODAY ON "WINDY CITY LIVE,"
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TOP OF THE MORNING TO YOU.
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>> TOP OF THE MORNING TO YOU,
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SAN DIEGO.
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>> TOP OF THE MORNING TO YOU.
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>> TOP OF THE MORNING TO YOU.
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[LAUGHS]
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>> TOP OF THE MORNING TO YOU
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>> TOP OF THE MORNING TO YOU
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TOO.
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>> IT'S WEE MORE THAN A LITTLE
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CLOUD COVER OUT THERE.
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IT'S TOTALLY CLOUD COVERED.
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>> AH, LADS AND LASSES,
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WE WILL HAVE SUNSHINE.
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THE LUCK OF THE IRISH.
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>> THE LUCK OF THE IRISH BE WITH
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US.
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>> I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT I SAID.
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BUT I WATCHED A LOT OF
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LUCKY CHARMS COMMERCIALS.
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♪ ♪
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♪ DUBLIN'S FAIR CITY,
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WHERE THE GIRLS ARE SO PRETTY ♪
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>> WELCOME TO OUR FAIR CITY
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WHERE THE GIRLS ARE SO PRETTY.
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LET'S START WITH ONE OF THOSE
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LOVELY LADIES.
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♪ ♪
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>> John: MOVING ON.
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OUR MAIN STORY TONIGHT CONCERNS
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PLASTIC.
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IT'S VERY MUCH THE JANE LYNCH
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OF MATERIALS, IN THAT
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IT'S INCREDIBLY VERSATILE,
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APPEARS IN ALMOST EVERYTHING,
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AND ISN'T GOING ANYWHERE
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FOR THE NEXT 400 YEARS.
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PLASTIC REALLY IS UBIQUITOUS.
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IT'S IN FOOD PACKAGING,
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IT'S IN BUILDING MATERIALS
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ON PLANES AND CARS,
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IT'S IN BICYCLE HELMETS,
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AND IT'S IN THIS STRAP-ON
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THIGH DILDO.
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IMAGINE A WORLD BEFORE PLASTICS,
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WHEN YOUR FEMUR PENIS WOULD HAVE
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TO MADE FROM WOOD, OR IF YOU
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WERE WEALTHY ENOUGH, IVORY.
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IT DOESN'T BEAR THINKING ABOUT.
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BUT FOR ALMOST AS LONG AS
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PLASTICS HAVE BEEN AROUND,
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THERE'S BEEN THE QUESTION OF
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WHAT TO DO WITH THEM AFTER
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THEY'RE USED -- A QUESTION ANY
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NUMBER OF CREEPY RECYCLING
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MASCOTS HAVE TRIED TO ANSWER.
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FROM THE RECYCLING WIZARD IN
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SOUTH CAROLINA, TO RECYCLING BEN
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FROM GEORGIA, TO MUNCIE,
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INDIANA'S MR. BLUE -- WHO
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APPEARS TO BE A BAG OF RECYCLING
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OR AN ASPHYXIATED SAUSAGE --
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TO MY ABSOLUTE FAVORITE,
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TOTES McGOATS.
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>> THE POPULAR SOCIAL MEDIA
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NEWS-SITE MASHABLE WRITES OF
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"NIAGARA FALL'S TERRIFYING NEW
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RECYCLING MASCOT" AND "HORRIFIC
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GOAT-MAN HYBRID."
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>> SURE, YEAH, AND YOU KNOW
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WHAT?
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I'VE SEEN CHILDREN CRY AT THE
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EASTER BUNNY AND SANTA CLAUS AS
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WELL.
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UM, BUT OUR TARGET MARKET ISN'T
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THREE AND 4-YEAR-OLDS OF COURSE.
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IT'S SOMEONE WHO'S LEARNING
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ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT,
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SO MIDDLE SCHOOL, TEENAGERS,
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PEOPLE WHO MAYBE AREN'T SO
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AFRAID OF GOATS AND CLOWNS.
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>> John: WELL, HANG ON.
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WHO SAID ANYTHING ABOUT CLOWNS?
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NO ONE WOULD EVER MISTAKE THAT
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THING FOR A CLOWN.
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I KNOW WE'VE BEEN TOUGH ON
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CLOWNS IN THE PAST.
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THEY'RE WEIRD, SCARY, NOT FUNNY,
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AND THEY EAT CHILDREN, BUT
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CREDIT WHERE IT'S DUE -- THEY DO
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PUT IN THE WORK.
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YOU THINK A LOOK THIS FRESH
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JUST COMES TOGETHER?
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OF COURSE NOT!
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THIS GUY CLEARLY MADE AN EFFORT.
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HE DIDN'T JUST GOOGLE
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"RUBBER GOAT MASK CHEAP," AND
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BUY THE FIRST RESULT, WHICH,
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INCIDENTALLY, SEEMS TO BE
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THE EXACT MASK THAT FUCKED-UP
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GOAT IS WEARING.
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AND WE'VE PRODUCED A LOT OF
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PLASTIC FOR ALL THOSE MASCOTS
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TO RECYCLE.
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SINCE PLASTIC'S INTRODUCTION,
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PRODUCTION HAS SKYROCKETED
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TO 380 MILLION TONS IN 2015.
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IN FACT, HALF OF ALL PLASTICS
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EVER MADE HAVE BEEN PRODUCED
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SINCE 2005.
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AND FOR ALL THE HYPE ABOUT
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RECYCLING, A LOT LESS PLASTIC
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WINDS UP GETTING RECYCLED THAN
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YOU MIGHT THINK.
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LESS THAN 9% OF THE PLASTICS
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GENERATED ARE RECYCLED
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IN THE UNITED STATES,
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WITH THE VAST MAJORITY
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ENDING UP IN LANDFILLS OR
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IN THE ENVIRONMENT.
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BUT BEFORE YOU START BLAMING
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YOURSELF, OR YOUR NEIGHBORS,
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FOR NOT SORTING THEIR TRASH AND
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SEPARATING ITEMS, IT'S ACTUALLY
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NOT THAT SIMPLE, AS THIS
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REPORTER FOUND OUT WHILE WALKING
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THROUGH A PORTLAND SUPERMARKET.
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>> IT SEEMS LIKE EVERYBODY IS
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BUYING LETTUCE IN A BOX NOW.
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IS THIS RECYCLABLE?
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>> IN THIS STATE, NONE OF THIS
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IS -- NONE OF THIS IS
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RECYCLABLE.
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>> OKAY.
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WHAT ABOUT ALL OF THESE?
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THIS IS EVERYWHERE IN EVERY
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SUPERMARKET.
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>> IN OREGON, AGAIN, THERE ARE
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NO CURBSIDE PROGRAMS THAT WOULD
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ACCEPT ANY OF THESE TUBS.
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>> John: YEAH, THAT IS SHOCKING!
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BECAUSE THINK OF WHAT THAT
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MEANS: THE STUFF WE ALL
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ROUTINELY BUY AT THE SUPERMARKET
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-- ASSUMING, UNDERSTANDABLY, IT
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WILL GET RECYCLED -- IS, IN MANY
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CASES, NOT.
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AND THAT IS DESPITE THE
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IMPRESSION WE MIGHT HAVE TAKEN
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FROM MASCOTS LIKE TOTES McGOATS,
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WHOSE NAME I'M HONESTLY
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UNCOMFORTABLE EVEN UTTERING OUT
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LOUD, JUST ON THE OFF-CHANCE
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THAT HE'S LIKE BEETLEJUICE AND
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SAYING "TOTES McGOATS"
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THREE TIMES SOMEHOW SUMMONS HIM
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INTO --
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OH, SHIT!
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HOW THE HELL DID YOU GET
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IN HERE?
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THIS IS A COVID-COMPLIANT SET!
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YOU CAN'T BE HERE!
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WAIT -- YOU GOT THE VACCINE?
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HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ELIGIBLE
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FOR THE VACCINE?
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>> HYPERTENSION, JOHN.
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>> John: OH, BULLSHIT!
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YOU KNOW WHAT?
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00:13:09,133 --> 00:13:09,866
I DON'T CARE!
517
00:13:09,933 --> 00:13:12,933
YOU NEED TO GET OUT OF HERE!
518
00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:13,600
GET OUT OF HERE!
519
00:13:13,666 --> 00:13:14,666
YOU'RE SO MUCH WORSE IN PERSON,
520
00:13:14,733 --> 00:13:15,133
TOTES!
521
00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:16,300
YOU LOOK LIKE A FURRY
522
00:13:16,366 --> 00:13:17,000
WHO CAN'T COMMIT.
523
00:13:17,066 --> 00:13:18,533
GET OUT OF HERE!
524
00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:20,300
THE FACT IS, A HUGE AMOUNT OF
525
00:13:20,366 --> 00:13:21,933
THE PLASTIC SURROUNDING US
526
00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:23,133
ISN'T RECYCLED BECAUSE IT'S
527
00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:25,500
NOT REALLY RECYCLABLE.
528
00:13:25,566 --> 00:13:26,833
AND THAT MEANS IT ENDS UP IN
529
00:13:26,900 --> 00:13:28,533
LANDFILLS, OR BURNT, OR IN THE
530
00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:30,366
OCEAN, WHERE IT BREAKS DOWN INTO
531
00:13:30,433 --> 00:13:32,033
"MICRO-PLASTICS," GET EATEN BY
532
00:13:32,100 --> 00:13:34,166
FISH, AND CAN END UP INSIDE US.
533
00:13:34,233 --> 00:13:35,100
>> PLASTIC IN THE OCEAN HAS A
534
00:13:35,166 --> 00:13:36,900
TENDENCY TO BREAK DOWN INTO EVER
535
00:13:36,966 --> 00:13:38,100
SMALLER PIECES.
536
00:13:38,166 --> 00:13:40,166
AND THESE TINY PIECES THEN GET
537
00:13:40,233 --> 00:13:41,166
TAKEN UP EVEN LOWER DOWN
538
00:13:41,233 --> 00:13:44,100
IN THE FOOD CHAIN.
539
00:13:44,166 --> 00:13:45,066
SO WE KNOW THAT IT ENDS UP ON
540
00:13:45,133 --> 00:13:46,033
OUR DINNER PLATES.
541
00:13:46,100 --> 00:13:49,033
THERE IS PLASTIC IN YOUR FOOD,
542
00:13:49,100 --> 00:13:52,233
PLASTIC IN YOUR SEA SALT,
543
00:13:52,300 --> 00:13:53,200
AND PLASTIC COMING OUT OF YOUR
544
00:13:53,266 --> 00:13:53,833
TAP.
545
00:13:53,900 --> 00:13:57,633
>> John: IT'S TRUE.
546
00:13:57,700 --> 00:13:58,600
A RECENT STUDY EVEN ESTIMATED
547
00:13:58,666 --> 00:14:00,033
THAT AN AVERAGE PERSON GLOBALLY
548
00:14:00,100 --> 00:14:01,500
COULD BE INGESTING ABOUT A
549
00:14:01,566 --> 00:14:02,300
CREDIT CARD'S WORTH OF PLASTIC
550
00:14:02,366 --> 00:14:03,500
INTO THEIR SYSTEM EVERY WEEK.
551
00:14:03,566 --> 00:14:04,533
WHICH KIND OF EXPLAINS
552
00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:05,366
CAPITAL ONE'S NEW SLOGAN,
553
00:14:05,433 --> 00:14:06,366
"WHAT'S IN YOUR STOMACH?"
554
00:14:06,433 --> 00:14:08,766
GOOD QUESTION, MR. JACKSON.
555
00:14:08,833 --> 00:14:09,266
BECAUSE APPARENTLY, IT'S
556
00:14:09,333 --> 00:14:10,066
1.5% CASH BACK, A FEW THOUSAND
557
00:14:10,133 --> 00:14:11,033
FREE AIRLINE MILES, AND A
558
00:14:11,100 --> 00:14:13,566
FUCKING SHITLOAD OF PLASTIC.
559
00:14:13,633 --> 00:14:15,533
SO HOW IS IT THAT TONS OF
560
00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:18,233
PLASTIC THAT WE ASSUME IS
561
00:14:18,300 --> 00:14:19,900
GETTING RECYCLED CAN INSTEAD
562
00:14:19,966 --> 00:14:23,100
SOMETIMES END UP INSIDE OF US?
563
00:14:23,166 --> 00:14:24,700
WELL, THAT IS WHAT THIS STORY IS
564
00:14:24,766 --> 00:14:24,900
ABOUT.
565
00:14:24,966 --> 00:14:26,066
IT'S ABOUT WHY SO LITTLE PLASTIC
566
00:14:26,133 --> 00:14:27,933
GETS RECYCLED, THE HARM THAT
567
00:14:28,033 --> 00:14:28,766
CAN DO, AND HOW THE PLASTICS
568
00:14:28,833 --> 00:14:29,766
INDUSTRY HAS MANAGED TO CONVINCE
569
00:14:29,833 --> 00:14:31,333
US ALL THAT IT'S OUR FAULT.
570
00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:32,100
AND LET'S START WITH SOME
571
00:14:32,166 --> 00:14:33,100
HISTORY.
572
00:14:33,166 --> 00:14:34,066
AS PLASTIC PRODUCTION
573
00:14:34,133 --> 00:14:36,033
BEGAN TO GROW IN THE 1950s,
574
00:14:36,100 --> 00:14:37,600
SO DID PLASTIC WASTE, AND
575
00:14:37,666 --> 00:14:38,700
THEREFORE, PUBLIC BACKLASH.
576
00:14:38,766 --> 00:14:39,933
BY THE '60s AND '70s,
577
00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:41,300
ORGANIZATIONS BEGAN DRAWING
578
00:14:41,366 --> 00:14:42,433
ATTENTION TO ALL THE PACKAGING
579
00:14:42,500 --> 00:14:43,733
WASTE LITTERING THE LANDSCAPE,
580
00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:45,666
THROUGH ADS LIKE THIS ONE.
581
00:14:45,733 --> 00:14:48,433
>> SOME PEOPLE HAVE A DEEP,
582
00:14:48,500 --> 00:14:50,266
ABIDING RESPECT FOR THE NATURAL
583
00:14:50,333 --> 00:14:51,266
BEAUTY THAT WAS ONCE THIS
584
00:14:51,333 --> 00:14:53,866
COUNTRY.
585
00:14:53,933 --> 00:14:57,000
AND SOME PEOPLE DON'T.
586
00:14:57,066 --> 00:14:59,100
PEOPLE START POLLUTION.
587
00:14:59,166 --> 00:15:02,666
PEOPLE CAN STOP IT.
588
00:15:02,733 --> 00:15:03,533
>> John: NOW YOU MIGHT HAVE SEEN
589
00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:04,933
THAT AD BEFORE.
590
00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:06,333
IT REALLY TOUCHED PEOPLE'S
591
00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:07,500
HEARTSTRINGS, BECAUSE APPARENTLY
592
00:15:07,566 --> 00:15:09,533
THE WORST THING WHITE PEOPLE
593
00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:10,500
EVER DID TO AMERICA'S INDIGENOUS
594
00:15:10,566 --> 00:15:11,800
POPULATIONS WAS LITTER ON THE
595
00:15:11,866 --> 00:15:12,733
FREEWAY.
596
00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:13,766
BUT THERE ARE A FEW MISLEADING
597
00:15:13,833 --> 00:15:14,733
THINGS ABOUT IT.
598
00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:16,166
FIRST, THAT MAN WASN'T ACTUALLY
599
00:15:16,233 --> 00:15:17,300
NATIVE AMERICAN -- HE WAS AN
600
00:15:17,366 --> 00:15:18,166
ITALIAN-AMERICAN ACTOR WHO
601
00:15:18,233 --> 00:15:19,400
PLAYED THEM FOR A LIVING.
602
00:15:19,466 --> 00:15:20,800
AND WHILE IT'S BY NO MEANS
603
00:15:20,866 --> 00:15:21,800
THE FIRST TIME SOMEONE OF
604
00:15:21,866 --> 00:15:22,966
ITALIAN DESCENT INSERTED
605
00:15:23,033 --> 00:15:24,500
THEMSELVES INTO A
606
00:15:24,566 --> 00:15:25,500
NATIVE AMERICAN NARRATIVE
607
00:15:25,566 --> 00:15:26,500
WITHOUT ASKING, I GUESS AT LEAST
608
00:15:26,566 --> 00:15:28,200
THIS TIME NO ONE NAMED A HOLIDAY
609
00:15:28,266 --> 00:15:28,766
AFTER HIM.
610
00:15:28,833 --> 00:15:30,333
BUT MORE TO THE POINT,
611
00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:31,766
THE ORGANIZATION THAT PRODUCED
612
00:15:31,833 --> 00:15:33,566
THAT AD, KEEP AMERICA BEAUTIFUL,
613
00:15:33,633 --> 00:15:35,766
WAS FUNDED IN PART BY A PLASTICS
614
00:15:35,833 --> 00:15:37,200
INDUSTRY TRADE GROUP, AND
615
00:15:37,266 --> 00:15:38,200
COMPOSED OF LEADING BEVERAGE AND
616
00:15:38,266 --> 00:15:41,266
PACKAGING CORPORATIONS.
617
00:15:41,333 --> 00:15:42,500
WHICH MIGHT SEEM ODD, UNTIL YOU
618
00:15:42,566 --> 00:15:43,900
REALIZE THAT THE UNDERLYING
619
00:15:43,966 --> 00:15:44,466
MESSAGE THERE IS,
620
00:15:44,533 --> 00:15:45,766
"IT'S UP TO YOU, THE CONSUMER,
621
00:15:45,833 --> 00:15:47,566
TO STOP POLLUTION."
622
00:15:47,633 --> 00:15:49,166
AND THAT HAS BEEN A MAJOR
623
00:15:49,233 --> 00:15:50,333
THROUGHLINE IN THE RECYCLING
624
00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:52,200
MOVEMENT -- A MOVEMENT OFTEN
625
00:15:52,266 --> 00:15:53,933
BANKROLLED BY COMPANIES WHO
626
00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:54,966
WANTED TO DRILL HOME THE MESSAGE
627
00:15:55,033 --> 00:15:56,300
THAT IT IS YOUR RESPONSIBILITY
628
00:15:56,366 --> 00:15:57,966
TO DEAL WITH THE ENVIRONMENTAL
629
00:15:58,033 --> 00:16:00,100
IMPACT OF THEIR PRODUCTS.
630
00:16:00,166 --> 00:16:02,133
AND NOWHERE IS THIS CO-OPTING OF
631
00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:03,166
ENVIRONMENTALISM CLEARER THAN
632
00:16:03,233 --> 00:16:04,433
WITH THAT RECYCLING SYMBOL THAT
633
00:16:04,500 --> 00:16:05,533
YOU FIND ON PLASTIC PRODUCTS YOU
634
00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:06,566
BUY -- THE FAMOUS "CHASING
635
00:16:06,633 --> 00:16:07,700
ARROWS."
636
00:16:07,766 --> 00:16:10,033
THEY ARE ON EVERYTHING,
637
00:16:10,100 --> 00:16:11,033
AND THE NUMBERS INSIDE THEM ARE
638
00:16:11,100 --> 00:16:12,366
PRETTY IMPORTANT, BECAUSE THEY
639
00:16:12,433 --> 00:16:13,166
REPRESENT WHAT TYPE OF PLASTIC
640
00:16:13,233 --> 00:16:14,000
IT IS.
641
00:16:14,066 --> 00:16:16,466
>> NUMBER 1 STANDS FOR P.E.T.
642
00:16:16,533 --> 00:16:18,633
THINK WATER AND SODA BOTTLES.
643
00:16:18,700 --> 00:16:20,800
NUMBER 2 IS HDPE, OFTEN USED AS
644
00:16:20,866 --> 00:16:21,933
PACKAGING FOR DETERGENT AND
645
00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:24,833
SHAMPOO.
646
00:16:24,900 --> 00:16:26,166
THEN, THERE'S 3, 4, 5, 6, AND
647
00:16:26,233 --> 00:16:28,300
WILD CARD NUMBER 7, WHICH STANDS
648
00:16:28,366 --> 00:16:28,966
FOR OTHER -- MEANING EVERYTHING
649
00:16:29,033 --> 00:16:31,133
ELSE.
650
00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:32,566
>> John: RIGHT, NUMBER 7 IS
651
00:16:32,633 --> 00:16:33,966
BASICALLY THE CATCH-ALL FOR
652
00:16:34,033 --> 00:16:35,666
"EVERYTHING ELSE," IN THE SAME
653
00:16:35,733 --> 00:16:36,666
WAY THAT THAT ONE DRAWER
654
00:16:36,733 --> 00:16:37,533
IN YOUR KITCHEN IS A CATCH-ALL
655
00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:38,666
FOR EVERYTHING.
656
00:16:38,733 --> 00:16:40,266
YEAH, THERE'S KETCHUP PACKETS,
657
00:16:40,333 --> 00:16:41,800
BUT ALSO, RUBBER BANDS,
658
00:16:41,866 --> 00:16:42,866
THE INSTRUCTIONS TO AN IMMERSION
659
00:16:42,933 --> 00:16:44,233
BLENDER YOU LOST A YEAR AGO,
660
00:16:44,300 --> 00:16:45,133
AND A POST-IT NOTE WITH JUST
661
00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:46,066
A PHONE NUMBER ON IT AND
662
00:16:46,133 --> 00:16:47,533
NO INDICATION WHO IT BELONGS TO.
663
00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:48,500
CALL THAT NUMBER!
664
00:16:48,566 --> 00:16:51,133
I DARE YOU!
665
00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:53,000
BUT CRUCIALLY, VERY FEW OF THOSE
666
00:16:53,066 --> 00:16:54,400
SEVEN TYPES OF PLASTIC ARE
667
00:16:54,466 --> 00:16:56,733
COMMONLY RECYCLABLE.
668
00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:57,966
CERTAIN TYPES OF NUMBER 1 AND 2
669
00:16:58,033 --> 00:16:59,400
PLASTICS -- THINGS LIKE SODA AND
670
00:16:59,466 --> 00:17:03,100
LAUNDRY DETERGENT BOTTLES -- DO
671
00:17:03,166 --> 00:17:03,433
GET RECYCLED.
672
00:17:03,500 --> 00:17:04,100
ALTHOUGH, DEPENDING ON WHERE YOU
673
00:17:04,166 --> 00:17:05,066
LIVE, CERTAIN OTHER TYPES --
674
00:17:05,133 --> 00:17:06,366
LIKE THOSE LETTUCE TUBS YOU SAW
675
00:17:06,433 --> 00:17:08,166
EARLIER -- MAY NOT.
676
00:17:08,233 --> 00:17:09,766
AND WHEN IT COMES TO PLASTICS
677
00:17:09,833 --> 00:17:11,566
NUMBERS 3 THROUGH 7 -- WHICH CAN
678
00:17:11,633 --> 00:17:12,933
BE THINGS LIKE PLASTIC BAGS,
679
00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:14,000
CUPS, OR POUCHES -- WE HAVE THE
680
00:17:14,066 --> 00:17:15,300
CAPACITY TO RECYCLE LESS THAN
681
00:17:15,366 --> 00:17:18,133
5% OF IT.
682
00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:20,033
SO OUT OF THE SEVEN NUMBERS,
683
00:17:20,100 --> 00:17:23,933
ONLY TWO ARE REALLY MUCH GOOD.
684
00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:24,633
AND THAT IS A PRETTY BAD RATIO
685
00:17:24,700 --> 00:17:25,666
FOR A GROUP OF SEVEN.
686
00:17:25,733 --> 00:17:26,466
IDEALLY, YOU'D WANT A BALANCE
687
00:17:26,533 --> 00:17:27,833
A LITTLE MORE LIKE BTS.
688
00:17:27,900 --> 00:17:28,766
THERE'S NOT A WEAK LINK IN THAT
689
00:17:28,833 --> 00:17:30,033
UNBREAKABLE CHAIN OF
690
00:17:30,100 --> 00:17:31,300
HEARTTHROBS.
691
00:17:31,366 --> 00:17:33,133
WITH SO MANY PEOPLE ONSTAGE,
692
00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:33,900
YOU'D UNDERSTAND IF SOMETIMES
693
00:17:33,966 --> 00:17:35,733
JIMIN ONLY GAVE 50%,
694
00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:37,300
BUT HE DOESN'T, HE BEATS UP
695
00:17:37,366 --> 00:17:38,233
THE DANCE FLOOR EVERY NIGHT
696
00:17:38,300 --> 00:17:39,133
LIKE HE JUST CAUGHT IT
697
00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:40,500
ROBBING HIS HOUSE.
698
00:17:40,566 --> 00:17:41,900
AND THERE ARE A NUMBER OF
699
00:17:41,966 --> 00:17:42,733
REASONS WHY CERTAIN PLASTICS
700
00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:44,166
DON'T GET RECYCLED.
701
00:17:44,233 --> 00:17:46,200
SOME ARE COMPLEX MIXES OF
702
00:17:46,266 --> 00:17:47,600
DIFFERENT RESINS, MAKING
703
00:17:47,666 --> 00:17:48,733
RECYCLING THEM DIFFICULT.
704
00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:50,666
OTHER TIMES, THERE ARE PRACTICAL
705
00:17:50,733 --> 00:17:52,466
OBSTACLES -- THAT THE PLASTIC IS
706
00:17:52,533 --> 00:17:53,066
CONTAMINATED, OR DIFFICULT TO
707
00:17:53,133 --> 00:17:54,000
SORT.
708
00:17:54,066 --> 00:17:56,966
AND THEN THERE ARE ECONOMIC
709
00:17:57,033 --> 00:17:57,766
REASONS -- SOMETIMES, THERE'S
710
00:17:57,833 --> 00:17:58,400
NO MARKET FOR CERTAIN TYPES OF
711
00:17:58,466 --> 00:17:59,666
PLASTIC.
712
00:17:59,733 --> 00:18:00,666
AND RIGHT NOW, IT'S CHEAPER FOR
713
00:18:00,733 --> 00:18:01,766
COMPANIES TO MAKE VIRGIN PLASTIC
714
00:18:01,833 --> 00:18:04,166
THAN FOR THEM TO RECYCLE IT.
715
00:18:04,233 --> 00:18:06,000
BUT THE THING IS, DESPITE
716
00:18:06,066 --> 00:18:07,566
KNOWING THAT MOST PLASTICS
717
00:18:07,633 --> 00:18:09,433
CAN'T BE RECYCLED, THE INDUSTRY
718
00:18:09,500 --> 00:18:10,533
LOBBIED STATE LEGISLATURES TO
719
00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:13,000
PASS LAWS REQUIRING THAT CHASING
720
00:18:13,066 --> 00:18:14,500
ARROWS SYMBOL TO BE PLACED ON
721
00:18:14,566 --> 00:18:16,000
ALL OF THEIR CONTAINERS,
722
00:18:16,066 --> 00:18:17,900
REGARDLESS OF WHETHER THEY COULD
723
00:18:17,966 --> 00:18:20,866
ACTUALLY BE RECYCLED OR NOT.
724
00:18:20,933 --> 00:18:21,866
MANUFACTURERS AND COMPANIES
725
00:18:21,933 --> 00:18:23,233
LIKE COCA-COLA ALSO LOBBIED
726
00:18:23,300 --> 00:18:25,366
LOCAL GOVERNMENTS TO INVEST
727
00:18:25,433 --> 00:18:26,533
IN CURBSIDE RECYCLING PROGRAMS,
728
00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:28,733
EVEN THOUGH, BEHIND DOORS,
729
00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:30,266
ONE INDUSTRY INSIDER
730
00:18:30,333 --> 00:18:31,566
ACKNOWLEDGED AS FAR BACK AS 1974
731
00:18:31,633 --> 00:18:33,066
THAT, "THERE IS SERIOUS DOUBT
732
00:18:33,133 --> 00:18:34,266
THAT RECYCLING PLASTIC CAN EVER
733
00:18:34,333 --> 00:18:36,033
BE MADE VIABLE ON AN ECONOMIC
734
00:18:36,100 --> 00:18:38,633
BASIS."
735
00:18:38,700 --> 00:18:40,066
AND HONESTLY, IT WASN'T ALL THAT
736
00:18:40,133 --> 00:18:41,333
DIFFICULT FOR THEM TO CONVINCE
737
00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:43,033
US THAT ALL THEIR WASTE IS
738
00:18:43,100 --> 00:18:44,466
RECYCLABLE, BECAUSE WE SO BADLY
739
00:18:44,533 --> 00:18:46,700
WANT TO BELIEVE IT.
740
00:18:46,766 --> 00:18:47,966
LIES GO DOWN EASIER WHEN YOU
741
00:18:48,033 --> 00:18:49,166
WANT THEM TO BE TRUE.
742
00:18:49,233 --> 00:18:51,033
IN FACT, OUR DESIRE FOR THINGS
743
00:18:51,100 --> 00:18:53,266
TO BE RECYCLED IS SO STRONG THAT
744
00:18:53,333 --> 00:18:54,900
PEOPLE WHO WORK IN THE INDUSTRY
745
00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:56,566
EVEN HAVE A SPECIAL TERM FOR IT.
746
00:18:56,633 --> 00:18:58,233
>> A LOT OF THINGS REALLY AREN'T
747
00:18:58,300 --> 00:18:59,000
RECYCLABLE, NO MATTER HOW MUCH
748
00:18:59,066 --> 00:19:01,066
WE WANT THEM TO BE.
749
00:19:01,133 --> 00:19:02,566
PEOPLE JUST WANT TO THROW,
750
00:19:02,633 --> 00:19:03,866
YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING IN AND,
751
00:19:03,933 --> 00:19:04,666
YOU KNOW, THEY WISH IT WAS
752
00:19:04,733 --> 00:19:05,500
RECYCLING.
753
00:19:05,566 --> 00:19:06,566
SO WE CALL IT "WISHCYCLING."
754
00:19:06,633 --> 00:19:07,100
HERE'S SOME "WISHCYCLING"
755
00:19:07,166 --> 00:19:09,333
FOR YOU.
756
00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:10,733
HERE'S AN UMBRELLA.
757
00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:13,566
I WISH IT WAS RECYCLABLE.
758
00:19:13,633 --> 00:19:15,200
IT'S NOT.
759
00:19:15,266 --> 00:19:16,933
>> John: NOW, FIRST OFF,
760
00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:18,000
HE'S RIGHT THAT UMBRELLAS ARE
761
00:19:18,066 --> 00:19:20,633
NOT RECYCLABLE, WHICH IS A PITY,
762
00:19:20,700 --> 00:19:21,600
AS THE AVERAGE AMERICAN GOES
763
00:19:21,666 --> 00:19:22,200
THROUGH ROUGHLY 4,000 OF THEM
764
00:19:22,266 --> 00:19:23,100
A YEAR.
765
00:19:23,166 --> 00:19:24,366
I'VE ALREADY SOMEHOW LOST 12
766
00:19:24,433 --> 00:19:25,600
SO FAR THIS YEAR, AND IT DOESN'T
767
00:19:25,666 --> 00:19:26,666
EVEN RAIN IN THIS VOID.
768
00:19:26,733 --> 00:19:28,933
AND SECONDLY, THE TERM
769
00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:30,666
"WISHCYCLING" IS JUST TOO GOOD
770
00:19:30,733 --> 00:19:32,233
TO BE WASTED ON GARBAGE.
771
00:19:32,300 --> 00:19:33,933
"WISHCYCLING" SOUNDS LIKE
772
00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:35,966
A SPIN CLASS TAUGHT BY A
773
00:19:36,033 --> 00:19:36,933
UNICORN, OR THE SEWAGE TREATMENT
774
00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:38,766
SYSTEM AT HOGWARTS.
775
00:19:38,833 --> 00:19:40,366
"AND THIS, CHILDREN, IS WHERE
776
00:19:40,433 --> 00:19:41,633
WE WISHCYCLE ALL YOUR COLLECTED
777
00:19:41,700 --> 00:19:42,700
URINE INTO THIS DELICIOUS
778
00:19:42,766 --> 00:19:44,233
BUTTERBEER!
779
00:19:44,300 --> 00:19:47,000
OH, IT'S FINE, CALM DOWN, IT'S
780
00:19:47,066 --> 00:19:49,366
MAGIC, STOP CRYING, IT'S FINE."
781
00:19:49,433 --> 00:19:50,500
BUT WISHCYCLING CAN END UP DOING
782
00:19:50,566 --> 00:19:52,166
REAL HARM.
783
00:19:52,233 --> 00:19:53,766
BECAUSE AT BEST, NON-RECYCLABLE
784
00:19:53,833 --> 00:19:54,866
ITEMS CAN BE A HASSLE TO REMOVE.
785
00:19:54,933 --> 00:19:57,566
PLANTS OFTEN HAVE TO STOP
786
00:19:57,633 --> 00:19:59,733
MACHINES TO CUT OUT ALL OF
787
00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:00,966
THE PLASTIC BAGS THAT PEOPLE
788
00:20:01,033 --> 00:20:01,833
DESPERATELY WANT TO THINK THEY
789
00:20:01,900 --> 00:20:03,300
CAN HANDLE.
790
00:20:03,366 --> 00:20:05,366
AND AT WORST, THEY CAN END UP
791
00:20:05,433 --> 00:20:06,333
CONTAMINATING LOADS OF PLASTICS
792
00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:07,266
THAT COULD OTHERWISE BE
793
00:20:07,333 --> 00:20:08,966
RECYCLED.
794
00:20:09,033 --> 00:20:10,433
SO THE FALSE IMPRESSION WE'VE
795
00:20:10,500 --> 00:20:11,900
ALL BEEN GIVEN THAT ALL
796
00:20:11,966 --> 00:20:14,333
THE PLASTICS WE'RE PUTTING INTO
797
00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:16,100
THE RECYCLING ARE BEING
798
00:20:16,166 --> 00:20:16,733
RECYCLED IS VERY MUCH
799
00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:18,066
NOT THE CASE.
800
00:20:18,133 --> 00:20:19,466
AND FOR A FEW BLISSFUL DECADES,
801
00:20:19,533 --> 00:20:21,100
AMERICA AND MOST OF THE WORLD
802
00:20:21,166 --> 00:20:23,166
DIDN'T REALLY WORRY ABOUT THIS,
803
00:20:23,233 --> 00:20:24,566
BECAUSE WE SIMPLY SHIPPED MUCH
804
00:20:24,633 --> 00:20:26,033
OF THE LOWER-QUALITY PLASTIC
805
00:20:26,100 --> 00:20:26,800
WASTE WE COULDN'T USE, IN BULK,
806
00:20:26,866 --> 00:20:27,900
TO CHINA.
807
00:20:27,966 --> 00:20:29,466
AT ONE POINT, ROUGHLY 70% OF
808
00:20:29,533 --> 00:20:30,400
THE WORLD'S PLASTIC WASTE WENT
809
00:20:30,466 --> 00:20:32,400
THERE.
810
00:20:32,466 --> 00:20:34,400
BUT THAT STOPPED IN 2018, WHEN
811
00:20:34,466 --> 00:20:36,200
CHINA FLAT-OUT BANNED THE IMPORT
812
00:20:36,266 --> 00:20:37,966
OF MOST PLASTICS.
813
00:20:38,033 --> 00:20:39,500
AND SINCE THEN, MUCH OF OUR
814
00:20:39,566 --> 00:20:41,066
WASTE HAS BEEN LEFT TO EITHER
815
00:20:41,133 --> 00:20:42,133
PILE UP IN DOMESTIC RECYCLING
816
00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:43,833
PLANTS WITH NO ONE TO BUY IT OR
817
00:20:43,900 --> 00:20:45,233
SHIPPED OUT TO OTHER COUNTRIES
818
00:20:45,300 --> 00:20:47,000
IN ASIA, WHERE IT CAN GET
819
00:20:47,066 --> 00:20:48,133
DROPPED INTO LANDFILLS, LIKE
820
00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:50,300
THIS ONE IN MALAYSIA.
821
00:20:50,366 --> 00:20:50,933
>> LOOK AT HOW BIG THIS IS.
822
00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:52,166
JUST TAKE A LOOK.
823
00:20:52,233 --> 00:20:56,233
LOOK HOW FAR IT GOES.
824
00:20:56,300 --> 00:20:59,200
THIS IS JUST ONE DUMP.
825
00:20:59,266 --> 00:21:01,333
ONE DUMP.
826
00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:03,066
A VAST FIELD OF PLASTIC.
827
00:21:03,133 --> 00:21:05,600
TWO STORIES HIGH.
828
00:21:05,666 --> 00:21:07,600
>> SEE IF WE CAN LOOK ON THE
829
00:21:07,666 --> 00:21:09,066
BACK HERE, "MARYSVILLE, OHIO."
830
00:21:09,133 --> 00:21:10,600
THIS IS FROM ITALY,
831
00:21:10,666 --> 00:21:12,666
PENNSYLVANIA, NEW YORK.
832
00:21:12,733 --> 00:21:14,300
LOOK, WALMART BAG.
833
00:21:14,366 --> 00:21:15,900
>> John: YEAH, A LOT OF OUR
834
00:21:15,966 --> 00:21:17,033
PLASTIC JUST ENDS UP SITTING
835
00:21:17,100 --> 00:21:18,033
IN GIANT LANDFILLS ON THE OTHER
836
00:21:18,100 --> 00:21:19,733
SIDE OF THE WORLD.
837
00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:21,133
SO I GUESS KATY PERRY'S
838
00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:22,100
QUESTION, "DO YOU EVER FEEL
839
00:21:22,166 --> 00:21:23,933
LIKE A PLASTIC BAG DRIFTING
840
00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:25,333
THROUGH THE WIND, WANTING TO
841
00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:26,166
START AGAIN?"
842
00:21:26,233 --> 00:21:27,166
SHOULD REALLY BE, "DO YOU EVER
843
00:21:27,233 --> 00:21:28,166
FEEL LIKE A PLASTIC WALMART BAG
844
00:21:28,233 --> 00:21:30,166
DROWNING IN TWO STORIES OF
845
00:21:30,233 --> 00:21:31,500
SOCIETY'S UNMITIGATED FILTH?"
846
00:21:31,566 --> 00:21:32,300
AND SINCE YOU'RE ASKING -- YEAH,
847
00:21:32,366 --> 00:21:33,833
KATY, I DO.
848
00:21:33,900 --> 00:21:36,200
ALL THE TIME.
849
00:21:36,266 --> 00:21:37,800
AND THE PROBLEM IS, THOSE
850
00:21:37,866 --> 00:21:39,300
COUNTRIES DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE
851
00:21:39,366 --> 00:21:40,700
THE CAPABILITIES TO DEAL WITH
852
00:21:40,766 --> 00:21:42,466
THEIR OWN PLASTIC WASTE, LET
853
00:21:42,533 --> 00:21:43,866
ALONE MILLIONS OF TONS OF OURS.
854
00:21:43,933 --> 00:21:45,633
WHICH CAN HAVE SERIOUS
855
00:21:45,700 --> 00:21:46,266
CONSEQUENCES FOR THE HEALTH AND
856
00:21:46,333 --> 00:21:47,733
SAFETY OF PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE.
857
00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:49,800
IN MALAYSIA, SOME OPERATIONS ARE
858
00:21:49,866 --> 00:21:50,933
ILLEGALLY INCINERATING LOTS OF
859
00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:52,166
PLASTIC WASTE.
860
00:21:52,233 --> 00:21:53,100
AND JUST LISTEN TO THIS
861
00:21:53,166 --> 00:21:54,300
COMMUNITY ACTIVIST DESCRIBING
862
00:21:54,366 --> 00:21:57,200
WHAT IT'S LIKE TO LIVE NEARBY.
863
00:21:57,266 --> 00:21:58,100
>> THE AIR POLLUTION BECOMES
864
00:21:58,166 --> 00:21:59,666
VERY SERIOUS IN MY VILLAGE.
865
00:21:59,733 --> 00:22:02,500
THE BURNING CAUSED A LOT OF
866
00:22:02,566 --> 00:22:03,933
RESPIRATORY DISEASE PROBLEMS
867
00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,066
TO OUR PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY OUR
868
00:22:06,133 --> 00:22:07,966
CHILDREN AND OUR ELDERLY, WHO
869
00:22:08,033 --> 00:22:09,866
HAS THIS PROBLEM OF REPEATING
870
00:22:09,933 --> 00:22:10,766
ASTHMA, REPEATING COUGHING
871
00:22:10,833 --> 00:22:11,966
ALSO.
872
00:22:12,033 --> 00:22:13,866
>> John: THAT'S TERRIBLE.
873
00:22:13,933 --> 00:22:15,033
AND I HAVE TO SAY, THERE'S JUST
874
00:22:15,100 --> 00:22:16,233
NO WAY THAT THE PEOPLE
875
00:22:16,300 --> 00:22:17,333
RESPONSIBLE FOR BURNING THAT
876
00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:17,966
WASTE DON'T KNOW THE FUMES ARE
877
00:22:18,033 --> 00:22:19,533
TOXIC.
878
00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:21,400
WHEN YOU SMELL BURNING PLASTIC,
879
00:22:21,466 --> 00:22:22,433
YOU DON'T THINK, "OOH, THAT
880
00:22:22,500 --> 00:22:24,200
SMELLS GREAT.
881
00:22:24,266 --> 00:22:25,400
IS SOMEONE BAKING COOKIES?"
882
00:22:25,466 --> 00:22:28,033
YOU THINK, "MY NOSE SEEMS TO BE
883
00:22:28,100 --> 00:22:29,033
DYING AND IT'S TAKING MY BRAIN
884
00:22:29,100 --> 00:22:30,300
DOWN WITH IT."
885
00:22:30,366 --> 00:22:31,966
NOW, THE GOOD NEWS IS, MORE THAN
886
00:22:32,033 --> 00:22:34,100
180 COUNTRIES AGREED LAST YEAR
887
00:22:34,166 --> 00:22:35,566
TO PLACE STRICT LIMITS ON
888
00:22:35,633 --> 00:22:36,866
EXPORTS OF PLASTIC WASTE FROM
889
00:22:36,933 --> 00:22:40,233
RICHER COUNTRIES TO POORER ONES.
890
00:22:40,300 --> 00:22:43,100
THE BAD NEWS IS THAT,
891
00:22:43,166 --> 00:22:45,100
THE UNITED STATES IS ONE OF THE
892
00:22:45,166 --> 00:22:47,466
FEW COUNTRIES IN THE WORLD THAT
893
00:22:47,533 --> 00:22:48,233
DIDN'T RATIFY THAT GLOBAL BAND.
894
00:22:48,300 --> 00:22:49,233
AND THE THING IS,
895
00:22:49,300 --> 00:22:50,066
WHEN PLASTIC ISN'T
896
00:22:50,133 --> 00:22:51,100
BURNED, IT CAN END UP IN
897
00:22:51,166 --> 00:22:52,166
LANDFILLS OR IN THE ENVIRONMENT.
898
00:22:52,233 --> 00:22:53,100
ACROSS THE WORLD, MORE THAN
899
00:22:53,166 --> 00:22:54,066
EIGHT MILLION TONS END UP
900
00:22:54,133 --> 00:22:55,066
IN OUR OCEANS EVERY YEAR.
901
00:22:55,133 --> 00:22:56,300
THERE'S FAMOUSLY EVEN A SWIRLING
902
00:22:56,366 --> 00:22:57,766
GARBAGE PATCH OF MICROPLASTIC
903
00:22:57,833 --> 00:22:59,166
WASTE IN THE PACIFIC OCEAN,
904
00:22:59,233 --> 00:23:00,100
SPREAD OUT OVER AN AREA THAT IS
905
00:23:00,166 --> 00:23:01,066
"BIGGER THAN FRANCE, GERMANY,
906
00:23:01,133 --> 00:23:02,500
AND SPAIN COMBINED."
907
00:23:02,566 --> 00:23:04,733
AND BY 2050, THE OCEAN IS
908
00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:06,466
EXPECTED TO CONTAIN, BY WEIGHT,
909
00:23:06,533 --> 00:23:10,033
MORE PLASTICS THAN FISH.
910
00:23:10,100 --> 00:23:10,633
THAT IS ALL FISH.
911
00:23:10,700 --> 00:23:11,900
THAT INCLUDES THE RED SNAPPER,
912
00:23:11,966 --> 00:23:13,533
SALMON, AND, OF COURSE
913
00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:14,566
THE BLOB FISH, THE ONLY FISH
914
00:23:14,633 --> 00:23:18,466
WITH A FACE THAT SCREAMS
915
00:23:18,533 --> 00:23:21,566
"I WOULD BE VOICED BY
916
00:23:21,633 --> 00:23:24,933
RICHARD KIND IN A PIXAR MOVIE
917
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:25,433
AND HE WOULD ABSOLUTELY
918
00:23:25,500 --> 00:23:26,133
NAIL IT."
919
00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:27,066
ISN'T THAT RIGHT, BLOB FISH?
920
00:23:27,133 --> 00:23:28,400
>> OH, ABSOLUTELY, JOHN, 100%!
921
00:23:28,466 --> 00:23:28,833
I MEAN, LOOK AT ME!
922
00:23:28,900 --> 00:23:29,933
I'M A BLOB FISH!
923
00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:30,600
I'M SLURP THE BLOB FISH!
924
00:23:30,666 --> 00:23:31,800
>> John: OF COURSE YOU'RE CALLED
925
00:23:31,866 --> 00:23:32,466
SLURP!
926
00:23:32,533 --> 00:23:33,433
THAT IS SOME SPOT ON CASTING
927
00:23:33,500 --> 00:23:34,433
RIGHT THERE.
928
00:23:34,500 --> 00:23:36,366
>> WELL, I'D ONLY BE A
929
00:23:36,433 --> 00:23:37,000
SUPPORTING CHARACTER, BUT, LOOK,
930
00:23:37,066 --> 00:23:37,733
WITH THIS FACE?
931
00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:38,366
YOU KNOW DAMN WELL I'M GONNA
932
00:23:38,433 --> 00:23:39,533
STEAL THE SHOW.
933
00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:40,700
>> John: I KNOW YOU WILL, SLURP!
934
00:23:40,766 --> 00:23:42,133
>> I WOULD PROVIDE COMIC RELIEF
935
00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:43,466
THROUGHOUT A VERY FUN, YET
936
00:23:43,533 --> 00:23:45,533
INTERMITTENTLY TOUCHING FILM.
937
00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:47,066
AND WORD HAS IT THERE'S GONNA
938
00:23:47,133 --> 00:23:49,066
BE AT LEAST TWO SEQUELS.
939
00:23:49,133 --> 00:23:50,733
AND JOHN?
940
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:54,400
ENTRE NOUS?
941
00:23:54,466 --> 00:23:54,833
>> John: YES?
942
00:23:54,900 --> 00:23:56,700
>> I DIE AT THE END OF
943
00:23:56,766 --> 00:23:57,033
THE THIRD ONE!
944
00:23:57,100 --> 00:23:57,700
BUT DON'T WORRY, I'VE GOT PROFIT
945
00:23:57,766 --> 00:23:58,133
PARTICIPATION!
946
00:23:58,200 --> 00:23:59,166
>> John: GOOD FOR YOU, SLURP!
947
00:23:59,233 --> 00:24:01,333
GET THAT MONEY.
948
00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:03,266
AND FRUSTRATINGLY, THE PLASTICS
949
00:24:03,333 --> 00:24:04,700
INDUSTRY'S RESPONSE TO ALL THE
950
00:24:04,766 --> 00:24:05,700
DAMAGE YOU'VE SEEN HAS BEEN
951
00:24:05,766 --> 00:24:07,933
TO MAKE A BIG SHOW OF TINY
952
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:09,066
IMPROVEMENTS, AND THEN REVERT
953
00:24:09,133 --> 00:24:10,300
TO WHAT THEY'VE ALWAYS DONE,
954
00:24:10,366 --> 00:24:12,500
WHICH IS HEAVILY PUSH THE IDEA
955
00:24:12,566 --> 00:24:18,766
THAT IF WE AS CONSUMERS SIMPLY
956
00:24:18,833 --> 00:24:19,900
TRIED HARD ENOUGH, WE COULD MAKE
957
00:24:19,966 --> 00:24:20,966
OUR PLASTIC PROBLEM GO AWAY.
958
00:24:21,033 --> 00:24:21,866
KEEP AMERICA BEAUTIFUL --
959
00:24:21,933 --> 00:24:22,866
THE PEOPLE BEHIND THAT FAKE
960
00:24:22,933 --> 00:24:24,000
NATIVE AMERICAN AD -- IS STILL
961
00:24:24,066 --> 00:24:25,433
AROUND, MAKING DUMB COMMERCIALS
962
00:24:25,500 --> 00:24:26,100
LIKE THIS ONE, WHERE A BOTTLE
963
00:24:26,166 --> 00:24:27,433
GOES ON A LONG, INSPIRING
964
00:24:27,500 --> 00:24:28,433
JOURNEY TO A RECYCLING BIN AND
965
00:24:28,500 --> 00:24:29,400
ENDS UP FULFILLING ITS DREAM OF
966
00:24:29,466 --> 00:24:31,000
BECOMING A BENCH.
967
00:24:31,066 --> 00:24:33,066
AND IF BOTTLES WERE SENTIENT,
968
00:24:33,133 --> 00:24:33,833
I'D GENUINELY BE SURPRISED IF
969
00:24:33,900 --> 00:24:35,133
THEIR BIGGEST DREAM WAS
970
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:36,100
"I WISH OLD PEOPLE WOULD PLAY
971
00:24:36,166 --> 00:24:41,166
CHESS WHILE SITTING ON MY FACE."
972
00:24:41,233 --> 00:24:42,100
BUT I WILL SAY, AT LEAST
973
00:24:42,166 --> 00:24:43,066
THEY'RE BEING HONEST THERE THAT
974
00:24:43,133 --> 00:24:44,133
THE BOTTLE BECAME A BENCH AND
975
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:45,200
THEN NOTHING ELSE.
976
00:24:45,266 --> 00:24:45,933
BECAUSE THE TRUTH IS, ONLY ABOUT
977
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:47,933
2% OF ALL RECYCLED PLASTIC WINDS
978
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,333
UP IN A SO-CALLED CLOSED-LOOP
979
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:52,266
SYSTEM, WHERE IT BECOMES THE
980
00:24:52,333 --> 00:24:52,966
THING IT ORIGINALLY WAS,
981
00:24:53,033 --> 00:24:54,266
IN OTHER WORDS, A BOTTLE GETTING
982
00:24:54,333 --> 00:24:55,566
RECYCLED AND BECOMING A BOTTLE
983
00:24:55,633 --> 00:25:02,400
AGAIN.
984
00:25:02,466 --> 00:25:05,433
INSTEAD, MOST RECYCLED PLASTIC
985
00:25:05,500 --> 00:25:06,133
GETS "DOWNCYCLED" TO
986
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:07,333
BECOME A CARPET,
987
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:08,466
OR A FLEECE SWEATSHIRT, OR
988
00:25:08,533 --> 00:25:09,666
INDEED, A BENCH, AND IT THEN
989
00:25:09,733 --> 00:25:10,166
CAN'T BE RECYCLED AGAIN.
990
00:25:10,233 --> 00:25:11,433
AND YET DESPITE THIS FACT,
991
00:25:11,500 --> 00:25:12,800
COMPANIES LIKE NESTLE WATER HAVE
992
00:25:12,866 --> 00:25:13,833
GONE OUT OF THEIR WAY TO MAKE
993
00:25:13,900 --> 00:25:15,233
ADS INDICATING THAT IF WE JUST
994
00:25:15,300 --> 00:25:18,133
DID OUR PART, PLASTICS COULD BE
995
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:19,100
PUT INTO CONTINUOUS REUSE, LIKE
996
00:25:19,166 --> 00:25:21,266
THIS AD FROM 2012.
997
00:25:21,333 --> 00:25:25,833
>> NATURE HAS A BIOLOGICAL
998
00:25:25,900 --> 00:25:26,766
METABOLISM WHERE ONE THING'S
999
00:25:26,833 --> 00:25:27,633
WASTE BECOMES ANOTHER THING'S
1000
00:25:27,700 --> 00:25:28,200
FOOD.
1001
00:25:28,266 --> 00:25:30,466
SO IF I LOOK AT SOMETHING LIKE
1002
00:25:30,533 --> 00:25:32,500
A PLASTIC BOTTLE, I DON'T SEE
1003
00:25:32,566 --> 00:25:34,700
WASTE, I SEE A NUTRIENT.
1004
00:25:34,766 --> 00:25:36,766
>> THIS IS RAW MATERIAL?
1005
00:25:36,833 --> 00:25:39,233
>> SO IF THIS IS RAW MATERIAL,
1006
00:25:39,300 --> 00:25:39,833
PEOPLE NEED TO START THINKING
1007
00:25:39,900 --> 00:25:40,966
ABOUT IT THAT WAY.
1008
00:25:41,033 --> 00:25:42,000
>> IT COULD COME BACK AS A
1009
00:25:42,066 --> 00:25:43,933
BOTTLE, OF COURSE.
1010
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:45,933
>> WE ONLY HAVE TO MAKE THIS
1011
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,333
VIRGIN MATERIAL ONE TIME.
1012
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,833
AND THE REST OF IT'S UP TO YOU.
1013
00:25:50,900 --> 00:25:52,633
WE GET THE BOTTLE BACK, WE'LL
1014
00:25:52,700 --> 00:25:53,533
MAKE THIS BOTTLE OUT OF RECYCLED
1015
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:56,166
CONTENT AGAIN.
1016
00:25:56,233 --> 00:25:57,566
>> John: WELL, THAT SOUNDS
1017
00:25:57,633 --> 00:25:58,600
AMAZING!
1018
00:25:58,666 --> 00:26:01,533
UNFORTUNATELY, WHAT THAT
1019
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:02,666
EXECUTIVE BOARD KEN DOLL IS
1020
00:26:02,733 --> 00:26:03,966
SUGGESTING THERE IS COMPLETE
1021
00:26:04,033 --> 00:26:05,233
BULLSHIT.
1022
00:26:05,300 --> 00:26:06,133
BECAUSE NESTLE WATER DOESN'T,
1023
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:07,500
IN FACT, HAVE TO MAKE VIRGIN
1024
00:26:07,566 --> 00:26:09,200
PLASTIC JUST "ONE TIME" IF YOU
1025
00:26:09,266 --> 00:26:09,800
SIMPLY GIVE YOUR BOTTLE BACK.
1026
00:26:09,866 --> 00:26:10,466
AND THE REASON WE KNOW THAT IS,
1027
00:26:10,533 --> 00:26:11,733
EVEN EIGHT YEARS AFTER THAT AD
1028
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:14,633
AIRED, ONLY 20% OF THE PLASTIC
1029
00:26:14,700 --> 00:26:16,200
THEY USE WAS RECYCLED, MEANING
1030
00:26:16,266 --> 00:26:18,733
80% WAS FROM VIRGIN MATERIAL.
1031
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,400
SO THAT'S THE MOST OBVIOUS
1032
00:26:21,466 --> 00:26:22,900
OVERSTATEMENT IN AN AD SINCE
1033
00:26:22,966 --> 00:26:25,233
THIS ONE FOR GAMEBOY IN THE '90s
1034
00:26:25,300 --> 00:26:25,666
THAT CLAIMED IT WAS
1035
00:26:25,733 --> 00:26:26,333
"MORE FUN THAN A FERRET DOWN
1036
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:27,800
YOUR TROUSERS."
1037
00:26:27,866 --> 00:26:29,233
THAT AD IS REAL.
1038
00:26:29,300 --> 00:26:30,300
AND I'M SORRY, MARIO, BUT NO,
1039
00:26:30,366 --> 00:26:32,266
YOU'RE NOT MORE FUN.
1040
00:26:32,333 --> 00:26:33,433
NOT IF THE FERRET KNOWS WHAT
1041
00:26:33,500 --> 00:26:35,066
IT'S DOING.
1042
00:26:35,133 --> 00:26:38,866
AND THE CRAZY THING IS,
1043
00:26:38,933 --> 00:26:40,333
THAT COMPANY ACTUALLY HAS
1044
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:41,000
A BETTER TRACK RECORD THAN MANY
1045
00:26:41,066 --> 00:26:41,900
OTHER BRANDS WHEN IT COMES TO
1046
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:42,766
THIS.
1047
00:26:42,833 --> 00:26:43,866
THAT IS HOW BAD THINGS ARE.
1048
00:26:43,933 --> 00:26:45,200
TAKE COCA-COLA.
1049
00:26:45,266 --> 00:26:46,200
BRAND AUDITS OF OF PLASTIC WASTE
1050
00:26:46,266 --> 00:26:47,233
COLLECTED AT CLEANUPS HAVE
1051
00:26:47,300 --> 00:26:48,566
CONSISTENTLY FOUND COKE PRODUCTS
1052
00:26:48,633 --> 00:26:49,700
AS THE NUMBER ONE TOP GLOBAL
1053
00:26:49,766 --> 00:26:51,933
POLLUTER.
1054
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:53,600
WHICH IS DAMNING.
1055
00:26:53,666 --> 00:26:54,933
AND PROBABLY WHY COKE HAS BEEN
1056
00:26:55,000 --> 00:27:00,433
SO ANXIOUS TO MAKE SPLASHY
1057
00:27:00,500 --> 00:27:01,466
PROMISES WE ALL SO BADLY
1058
00:27:01,533 --> 00:27:02,333
WANT TO HEAR,
1059
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:03,833
LIKE PLEDGING TO USE AT LEAST
1060
00:27:03,900 --> 00:27:04,566
50% RECYCLED MATERIAL IN THEIR
1061
00:27:04,633 --> 00:27:07,433
PACKAGING BY 2030.
1062
00:27:07,500 --> 00:27:08,500
WHICH DOES SOUNDS REALLY GOOD.
1063
00:27:08,566 --> 00:27:09,833
THE PROBLEM IS, COKE HAS BEEN
1064
00:27:09,900 --> 00:27:10,400
MAKING AND BREAKING PROMISES
1065
00:27:10,466 --> 00:27:12,400
LIKE THAT FOR DECADES.
1066
00:27:12,466 --> 00:27:13,900
OVER THE YEARS, THEY'VE
1067
00:27:13,966 --> 00:27:16,733
REPEATEDLY, LOUDLY LAUNCHED BIG
1068
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:17,700
RECYCLED-PLASTIC INITIATIVES
1069
00:27:17,766 --> 00:27:24,433
THAT THEY THEN QUIETLY
1070
00:27:24,500 --> 00:27:25,000
ABANDONED WITH NO ONE REALLY
1071
00:27:25,066 --> 00:27:25,833
NOTICING.
1072
00:27:25,900 --> 00:27:26,633
IN 2009, THEY ANNOUNCED PLANS
1073
00:27:26,700 --> 00:27:27,933
TO SOURCE 25% OF THEIR PLASTIC
1074
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:31,700
FROM RECYCLED MATERIAL BY 2015.
1075
00:27:31,766 --> 00:27:32,366
EXCEPT YOU'LL NOTICE THAT
1076
00:27:32,433 --> 00:27:33,366
IT'S SIX YEARS PAST THAT
1077
00:27:33,433 --> 00:27:33,933
DEADLINE, AND THEIR CURRENT
1078
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:35,000
PROPORTION IS JUST 10%.
1079
00:27:35,066 --> 00:27:36,733
SO I WOULDN'T BE SURPRISED IF,
1080
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:38,133
BY 2030, THE MAIN THING COKE IS
1081
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:39,533
RECYCLING IS THE SAME BULLSHIT
1082
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:41,000
PROMISES IT'S BEEN MAKING FOR
1083
00:27:41,066 --> 00:27:44,100
YEARS.
1084
00:27:44,166 --> 00:27:48,566
AND LOOK, ON A PERSONAL LEVEL,
1085
00:27:48,633 --> 00:27:49,466
I KNOW THIS CAN FEEL
1086
00:27:49,533 --> 00:27:50,233
DEMORALIZING,
1087
00:27:50,300 --> 00:27:51,900
BECAUSE IT CAN SEEM THAT
1088
00:27:51,966 --> 00:27:52,400
RECYCLING IS POINTLESS.
1089
00:27:52,466 --> 00:27:53,033
BUT IT'S IMPORTANT TO KNOW THAT
1090
00:27:53,100 --> 00:27:53,800
IT'S NOT.
1091
00:27:53,866 --> 00:27:54,833
WE SHOULD ABSOLUTELY KEEP
1092
00:27:54,900 --> 00:27:56,033
RECYCLING PAPER, CARDBOARD, AND
1093
00:27:56,100 --> 00:27:57,600
ALUMINUM.
1094
00:27:57,666 --> 00:27:59,133
AND EVEN RECYCLING PLASTIC --
1095
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,033
WHILE IT MIGHT BE 90% MORE
1096
00:28:01,100 --> 00:28:02,300
POINTLESS THAN YOU ASSUMED --
1097
00:28:02,366 --> 00:28:03,433
CAN STILL HAVE MODEST
1098
00:28:03,500 --> 00:28:05,633
ENVIRONMENTAL BENEFITS.
1099
00:28:05,700 --> 00:28:07,466
ALTHOUGH, WE SHOULD DO IT MORE
1100
00:28:07,533 --> 00:28:09,133
MINDFULLY -- YOU SHOULD CHECK
1101
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:09,766
WITH YOUR LOCAL MUNICIPALITY TO
1102
00:28:09,833 --> 00:28:10,866
SEE WHAT TYPES OF PLASTIC THEY
1103
00:28:10,933 --> 00:28:11,566
ACCEPT, AND THEN ONLY RECYCLE
1104
00:28:11,633 --> 00:28:12,533
THOSE.
1105
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:14,266
OTHERWISE, REMEMBER, YOU COULD
1106
00:28:14,333 --> 00:28:15,866
END UP CONTAMINATING USABLE
1107
00:28:15,933 --> 00:28:17,533
MATERIALS.
1108
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:18,866
AND AS A GOOD RULE, DEFINITELY
1109
00:28:18,933 --> 00:28:21,733
DON'T "WISHCYCLE" THINGS LIKE
1110
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:23,033
UMBRELLAS, BECAUSE THERE'S A
1111
00:28:23,100 --> 00:28:24,366
NONZERO CHANCE THAT YOU'RE GOING
1112
00:28:24,433 --> 00:28:24,833
TO END UP ANGERING
1113
00:28:24,900 --> 00:28:25,933
TOTES McGOATS.
1114
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:26,433
OH, SHIT.
1115
00:28:26,500 --> 00:28:26,866
NO.
1116
00:28:26,933 --> 00:28:27,800
NO.
1117
00:28:27,866 --> 00:28:29,433
ABSOLUTELY NOT.
1118
00:28:29,500 --> 00:28:32,633
NO.
1119
00:28:32,700 --> 00:28:34,333
LEAVE THIS PLACE.
1120
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:36,566
NO!
1121
00:28:36,633 --> 00:28:37,900
BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY,
1122
00:28:37,966 --> 00:28:39,400
OUR PERSONAL BEHAVIOR IS
1123
00:28:39,466 --> 00:28:44,433
NOT THE MAIN CULPRIT HERE,
1124
00:28:44,500 --> 00:28:48,500
DESPITE WHAT THE PLASTICS
1125
00:28:48,566 --> 00:28:49,600
INDUSTRY HAS SPENT DECADES,
1126
00:28:49,666 --> 00:28:50,233
AND MILLIONS OF
1127
00:28:50,300 --> 00:28:51,466
DOLLARS TRYING TO CONVINCE US.
1128
00:28:51,533 --> 00:28:52,166
SO YES, WE SHOULDN'T BE USING
1129
00:28:52,233 --> 00:28:53,233
SINGLE-USE PLASTICS LIKE
1130
00:28:53,300 --> 00:28:54,166
GROCERY BAGS OR TAKE-OUT
1131
00:28:54,233 --> 00:28:55,466
CONTAINERS -- REDUCING THAT
1132
00:28:55,533 --> 00:28:56,300
WOULD MAKE A HUGE DIFFERENCE, AS
1133
00:28:56,366 --> 00:28:57,700
NEARLY HALF OF THE PLASTIC WASTE
1134
00:28:57,766 --> 00:28:58,333
GENERATED GLOBALLY IN 2015 WAS
1135
00:28:58,400 --> 00:28:59,500
PLASTIC PACKAGING, MOST OF IT
1136
00:28:59,566 --> 00:29:00,866
SINGLE USE.
1137
00:29:00,933 --> 00:29:02,000
BUT IT CAN BE HARD, ON AN
1138
00:29:02,066 --> 00:29:04,066
INDIVIDUAL LEVEL, TO END THEIR
1139
00:29:04,133 --> 00:29:04,233
USE.
1140
00:29:04,300 --> 00:29:05,233
A BETTER MOVE WOULD BE TO
1141
00:29:05,300 --> 00:29:07,033
IMPLEMENT SMART, THOUGHTFUL,
1142
00:29:07,100 --> 00:29:08,500
TARGETED BANS THAT FORCE THE
1143
00:29:08,566 --> 00:29:10,200
INTRODUCTION OF ALTERNATIVES.
1144
00:29:10,266 --> 00:29:12,766
AND TO THEIR CREDIT, MANY CITIES
1145
00:29:12,833 --> 00:29:14,066
HAVE BANNED SINGLE-USE PLASTIC
1146
00:29:14,133 --> 00:29:15,666
BAGS.
1147
00:29:15,733 --> 00:29:19,700
UNFORTUNATELY, THE INDUSTRY HAS
1148
00:29:19,766 --> 00:29:21,266
FOUGHT THOSE BANS HARD,
1149
00:29:21,333 --> 00:29:21,866
EVEN LOBBYING SOME STATE
1150
00:29:21,933 --> 00:29:23,000
LEGISLATURES, TO THE
1151
00:29:23,066 --> 00:29:24,533
POINT THAT EIGHTEEN STATES NOW
1152
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:25,500
HAVE PREEMPTIVE LAWS STOPPING
1153
00:29:25,566 --> 00:29:27,600
LOCAL REGULATION.
1154
00:29:27,666 --> 00:29:28,233
WHICH IS A BIT WEIRD.
1155
00:29:28,300 --> 00:29:29,400
I GUESS THOSE STATES JUST HAVE
1156
00:29:29,466 --> 00:29:30,566
A HARD-ON FOR PLASTIC BAGS NOT
1157
00:29:30,633 --> 00:29:32,066
SEEN SINCE THAT CREEPY KID FROM
1158
00:29:32,133 --> 00:29:36,933
"AMERICAN BEAUTY."
1159
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:37,933
THE KID LOVED.
1160
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:39,100
SO WHAT CAN WE REALLY DO HERE?
1161
00:29:39,166 --> 00:29:40,900
WELL, THE REAL BEHAVIOR CHANGE
1162
00:29:40,966 --> 00:29:41,966
HAS TO COME FROM PLASTICS
1163
00:29:42,033 --> 00:29:43,400
MANUFACTURERS THEMSELVES.
1164
00:29:43,466 --> 00:29:44,766
WITHOUT THAT, NOTHING
1165
00:29:44,833 --> 00:29:46,800
SIGNIFICANT IS GOING TO HAPPEN.
1166
00:29:46,866 --> 00:29:48,700
WE HAVE TO MAKE THEM INTERNALIZE
1167
00:29:48,766 --> 00:29:49,666
THE COSTS OF THE POLLUTION THAT
1168
00:29:49,733 --> 00:29:51,300
THEY ARE CREATING.
1169
00:29:51,366 --> 00:29:52,900
AND THERE IS A WAY TO DO THIS,
1170
00:29:52,966 --> 00:29:54,000
THROUGH A CONCEPT CALLED
1171
00:29:54,066 --> 00:29:55,166
"EXTENDED PRODUCER
1172
00:29:55,233 --> 00:29:56,066
RESPONSIBILITY" OR
1173
00:29:56,133 --> 00:29:58,133
"THE POLLUTER PAYS PRINCIPLE."
1174
00:29:58,200 --> 00:29:58,966
THE IDEA IS TO CREATE LAWS
1175
00:29:59,033 --> 00:30:00,600
THAT ESSENTIALLY SHIFT
1176
00:30:00,666 --> 00:30:01,666
RESPONSIBILITY, AND THE COSTS OF
1177
00:30:01,733 --> 00:30:03,166
COLLECTION, FROM THE PUBLIC
1178
00:30:03,233 --> 00:30:04,433
SECTOR AND ALL OF US TO THE
1179
00:30:04,500 --> 00:30:05,233
ACTUAL PRODUCERS OF THE PLASTIC
1180
00:30:05,300 --> 00:30:06,966
WASTE.
1181
00:30:07,033 --> 00:30:08,200
EPR LAWS COULD, AMONG OTHER
1182
00:30:08,266 --> 00:30:10,166
THINGS, FORCE COMPANIES TO
1183
00:30:10,233 --> 00:30:11,866
EITHER CREATE THE INFRASTRUCTURE
1184
00:30:11,933 --> 00:30:12,933
AND MARKETS TO RECYCLE THE
1185
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:14,400
PRODUCTS THEY MAKE, OR FORCE
1186
00:30:14,466 --> 00:30:15,266
THEM TO STOP MAKING THEM
1187
00:30:15,333 --> 00:30:16,800
ALTOGETHER.
1188
00:30:16,866 --> 00:30:18,333
THE U.S. IS ONE OF THE ONLY
1189
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,266
DEVELOPED COUNTRIES ON EARTH
1190
00:30:20,333 --> 00:30:21,633
WITHOUT A NATIONAL EPR LAW
1191
00:30:21,700 --> 00:30:23,566
ADDRESSING PACKAGING.
1192
00:30:23,633 --> 00:30:25,200
BECAUSE OF COURSE IT IS.
1193
00:30:25,266 --> 00:30:27,133
BUT ON THE POSITIVE SIDE,
1194
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,100
SEVERAL STATES ARE CURRENTLY
1195
00:30:29,166 --> 00:30:29,733
CONSIDERING EPR LAWS, AND THERE
1196
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:31,400
WAS EVEN A NATIONAL LAW
1197
00:30:31,466 --> 00:30:32,733
INTRODUCED IN THE LAST CONGRESS.
1198
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:34,600
IT WENT NOWHERE, BUT IT'LL SOON
1199
00:30:34,666 --> 00:30:37,066
BE INTRODUCED AGAIN, AND WE'RE
1200
00:30:37,133 --> 00:30:38,333
GOING TO NEED SOME VERSION OF AN
1201
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:40,166
EPR LAW TO PASS, AND SOON.
1202
00:30:40,233 --> 00:30:41,466
BECAUSE THIS PROBLEM'S GETTING
1203
00:30:41,533 --> 00:30:43,566
WORSE.
1204
00:30:43,633 --> 00:30:45,333
PLASTIC PRODUCTION IS EXPECTED
1205
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,366
TO TRIPLE BY 2050.
1206
00:30:47,433 --> 00:30:49,133
AND IT'S OBVIOUS THAT MEANINGFUL
1207
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:50,400
CHANGE IS ONLY GOING TO COME
1208
00:30:50,466 --> 00:30:53,433
THROUGH BEING ABLE TO FORCE
1209
00:30:53,500 --> 00:30:54,833
THIS VERY POWERFUL INDUSTRY TO
1210
00:30:54,900 --> 00:30:55,866
DO THINGS THAT IT'S SHOWN FOR
1211
00:30:55,933 --> 00:30:57,700
HALF A CENTURY IT HAS ABSOLUTELY
1212
00:30:57,766 --> 00:31:00,766
NO INTEREST IN DOING.
1213
00:31:00,833 --> 00:31:02,266
WE HAVE TO MAKE THEM CHANGE --
1214
00:31:02,333 --> 00:31:04,733
AND IF NOT FOR OUR SAKE, OR THE
1215
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:05,666
SAKE OF FUTURE GENERATIONS,
1216
00:31:05,733 --> 00:31:06,666
LET'S AT LEAST DO IT FOR ALL
1217
00:31:06,733 --> 00:31:08,666
THE FISH WHO ARE ABOUT TO BE
1218
00:31:08,733 --> 00:31:09,166
OUTNUMBERED BY PLASTIC
1219
00:31:09,233 --> 00:31:10,466
IN THE OCEAN.
1220
00:31:10,533 --> 00:31:11,800
>> JUST LIKE ME!
1221
00:31:11,866 --> 00:31:13,966
AIN'T THAT RIGHT, JOHN?
1222
00:31:14,033 --> 00:31:14,466
>> John: EXACTLY, SLURP,
1223
00:31:14,533 --> 00:31:17,033
JUST LIKE YOU!
1224
00:31:17,100 --> 00:31:18,066
THAT'S OUR SHOW, THANK YOU SO
1225
00:31:18,133 --> 00:31:18,766
MUCH FOR WATCHING.
1226
00:31:18,833 --> 00:31:19,366
WE'RE OFF NEXT WEEK, SO WE'LL
1227
00:31:19,433 --> 00:31:19,933
SEE YOU IN TWO WEEKS' TIME.
1228
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:20,700
>> A HIATUS?
1229
00:31:20,766 --> 00:31:21,633
ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?
1230
00:31:21,700 --> 00:31:22,200
ALREADY?
1231
00:31:22,266 --> 00:31:23,233
JESUS.
1232
00:31:23,300 --> 00:31:24,833
GOD ALMIGHTY, JOHN.
1233
00:31:24,900 --> 00:31:26,400
C'MON, JOHN, BUCKLE DOWN.
1234
00:31:26,466 --> 00:31:27,966
YOU'VE GOT MORE WRITERS THAN
1235
00:31:28,033 --> 00:31:29,900
THE JONESTOWN MASSACRE.
1236
00:31:29,966 --> 00:31:30,700
MY GOD!
1237
00:31:30,766 --> 00:31:33,566
>> John: SLURP, IT'S A VERY
1238
00:31:33,633 --> 00:31:34,033
INTENSIVE PRODUCTION.
1239
00:31:34,100 --> 00:31:36,000
OUR STAFF IS ENTITLED
1240
00:31:36,066 --> 00:31:36,300
TO A BREAK.
1241
00:31:36,366 --> 00:31:37,133
SEE YOU ALL APRIL 4th.
1242
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:37,433
GOOD NIGHT!
1243
00:31:37,500 --> 00:31:37,966
>> HEY!
1244
00:31:38,033 --> 00:31:39,200
LOOK AT ME, EVERYBODY!
1245
00:31:39,266 --> 00:31:40,333
I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE THINKING.
1246
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:41,400
YOU'RE THINKING I LOOK LIKE
1247
00:31:41,466 --> 00:31:42,300
SOMETHING ANOTHER FISH COUGHED
1248
00:31:42,366 --> 00:31:43,166
UP.
1249
00:31:43,233 --> 00:31:44,133
HUH?
1250
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:45,533
THAT MY HEAD LOOKS LIKE A BASKET
1251
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:46,666
INGREDIENT FROM "CHOPPED."
1252
00:31:46,733 --> 00:31:48,466
YEAH, OKAY.
1253
00:31:48,533 --> 00:31:49,766
TO EVERYBODY OUT THERE
1254
00:31:49,833 --> 00:31:50,800
ON THE INTERNET WHO SAID I LOOK
1255
00:31:50,866 --> 00:31:52,066
LIKE TED CRUZ, REMEMBER:
1256
00:31:52,133 --> 00:31:53,366
I GOT FEELINGS.
1257
00:31:53,433 --> 00:31:54,766
AND YOU'VE HURT THEM.
1258
00:31:54,833 --> 00:31:55,400
GOOD NIGHT.
1259
00:31:55,466 --> 00:31:56,933
I LOVE YOU ALL.
1260
00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:58,800
MIAMI BEACH IS THE GREATEST
1261
00:31:58,866 --> 00:32:00,566
AUDIENCE IN THE WORLD!
1262
00:32:00,633 --> 00:32:01,733
MWAH!
1263
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:02,800
GOOD NIGHT!
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