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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:09,476 --> 00:00:12,678 [Amy] It's pulling off the covers. 2 00:00:12,712 --> 00:00:16,448 Sometimes I'll wake up and he's right there. 3 00:00:16,483 --> 00:00:18,650 I've woken up with bruises before. 4 00:00:18,685 --> 00:00:22,054 - It was just standing right there. - What did you see? 5 00:00:22,088 --> 00:00:24,356 A shadow. 6 00:00:24,391 --> 00:00:27,126 I felt like it wants to take them. 7 00:00:28,762 --> 00:00:31,830 They discover her naked and dead in the bathtub. 8 00:00:31,865 --> 00:00:37,202 To me, it was almost like a medical examination that this thing was doing. 9 00:00:39,005 --> 00:00:43,142 [Amy] I feel scared, I feel uncomfortable, really uncomfortable. 10 00:00:44,344 --> 00:00:46,645 The dark is getting darker. 11 00:00:46,679 --> 00:00:50,449 My name is Amy Allan. I see dead people. 12 00:00:50,483 --> 00:00:52,551 There is a skinwalker here. 13 00:00:52,585 --> 00:00:56,655 I speak to dead people... and they speak to me. 14 00:00:56,689 --> 00:00:58,724 He wants to collect the women. 15 00:00:58,758 --> 00:01:02,428 But there's only one way to know if my findings are real. 16 00:01:02,462 --> 00:01:06,432 They are sucking the life out of these people. 17 00:01:06,466 --> 00:01:08,834 - I rely on my partner. - I'm Steve DiSchiavi. 18 00:01:08,868 --> 00:01:10,903 I'm a retired New York City homicide detective. 19 00:01:10,937 --> 00:01:13,505 This is the kind of case that would have haunted me. 20 00:01:13,540 --> 00:01:17,509 And I know every person, every house... has secrets. 21 00:01:17,544 --> 00:01:20,746 - It's my job to reveal them. - But Steve and I never speak. 22 00:01:20,780 --> 00:01:24,583 - We never communicate during an investigation. - Until the very end. 23 00:01:24,617 --> 00:01:27,152 - Is that what I think it is? - Yes. 24 00:01:27,187 --> 00:01:29,521 - When we uncover if it's safe for you to stay... - I told you 25 00:01:29,556 --> 00:01:31,457 it was trying to kill me. 26 00:01:31,491 --> 00:01:33,392 Or time to get out. 27 00:01:33,426 --> 00:01:36,228 You have a dead person inside you. 28 00:01:51,811 --> 00:01:55,681 [Steve] So I'm out here in Coolidge, Arizona. It's about an hour south of Phoenix. 29 00:01:55,715 --> 00:01:57,950 I got an emotional call from a woman named Sherri 30 00:01:57,984 --> 00:02:01,820 who says her family is in big danger from all the paranormal activity. 31 00:02:01,855 --> 00:02:06,692 Sherri says they're in a bind. Can't afford to leave, can't afford to stay. 32 00:02:06,726 --> 00:02:11,363 It sounds like a horrible situation and they desperately need our help. 33 00:02:22,509 --> 00:02:27,179 [Amy] Oh, wow. This place is bad. Lot of fear here. 34 00:02:27,213 --> 00:02:28,380 I feel scared. 35 00:02:31,317 --> 00:02:33,952 And then I heard "There is no hope." 36 00:02:41,161 --> 00:02:44,163 [Steve] So, Sherri, I gotta tell you it's really peaceful out here. 37 00:02:44,197 --> 00:02:47,866 But when we spoke on the phone it sounded like you were living in a hell hole. 38 00:02:47,934 --> 00:02:50,802 Yes, my family feels like they're being tortured. 39 00:02:50,837 --> 00:02:56,775 It's really scary, kind of tearing everybody apart, not knowing... 40 00:02:56,809 --> 00:02:58,877 - what's gonna happen next. - Okay. 41 00:02:58,912 --> 00:03:02,447 Now, this is a pretty decent sized house, who all lives in the house? 42 00:03:02,482 --> 00:03:07,819 So it's... it's me, my husband, 43 00:03:07,854 --> 00:03:11,590 my daughter Jaylynn, she's 17 and my daughter Emma, she's 15. 44 00:03:11,624 --> 00:03:14,860 - Okay, so how long are you here? - We've been here a year. 45 00:03:14,894 --> 00:03:18,030 - Were people here before? - No, this is a brand-new house. 46 00:03:18,064 --> 00:03:22,267 Okay, did you guys ever have any experiences like this before you moved here? 47 00:03:22,302 --> 00:03:23,669 Not this bad. 48 00:03:23,703 --> 00:03:25,737 - So you've had experiences before? - Mm-hm. 49 00:03:25,772 --> 00:03:28,373 So do you think you brought something here? 50 00:03:28,408 --> 00:03:31,577 I think Emma brings things in. 51 00:03:31,611 --> 00:03:33,979 - So you think she has abilities? - Yes. 52 00:03:34,013 --> 00:03:37,916 - Okay. - Emma's had problems since she was little. 53 00:03:37,951 --> 00:03:40,552 She's talked about stuff since she was young. 54 00:03:40,587 --> 00:03:43,422 - And Emma's too scared to go into her room. - Really? 55 00:03:43,456 --> 00:03:44,389 Yes. 56 00:03:45,325 --> 00:03:46,525 She sleeps in our room. 57 00:03:46,559 --> 00:03:48,727 - As a mom that's gotta be driving you insane. - Yes. 58 00:03:48,761 --> 00:03:51,430 Very heartbreaking. They come first. 59 00:03:51,464 --> 00:03:54,366 - I understand that. - They're the most important. 60 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:57,436 But I can't... I can't help them. 61 00:03:59,606 --> 00:04:01,707 Alright, so, Sherri do me a favor and give me a list 62 00:04:01,741 --> 00:04:02,941 of what's going on in the house. 63 00:04:02,976 --> 00:04:08,647 There's mood changes, hearing voices, seeing shadow figures 64 00:04:08,681 --> 00:04:11,350 and now it's getting physical. 65 00:04:11,384 --> 00:04:15,587 - [Steve] So now, the mood changes, who does that affect? - Me and my daughter Emma. 66 00:04:15,622 --> 00:04:18,624 If she's in her room, it causes her anger. 67 00:04:18,658 --> 00:04:20,459 - She gets very angry. - Okay. 68 00:04:20,493 --> 00:04:22,060 Um, mine... 69 00:04:22,128 --> 00:04:27,132 can be out of the blue, I can be doing something and it's just this surge of... 70 00:04:27,166 --> 00:04:29,201 - It's just rage. - Why don't you guys just find another place? 71 00:04:29,235 --> 00:04:33,605 - In all honesty, I think it'll just go wherever we go. - So we gotta figure this out. 72 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:35,274 - Yeah. - Okay. 73 00:04:36,643 --> 00:04:43,282 [Amy] I see this big guy, put him at 6' 1", probably 300 pounds. 74 00:04:43,316 --> 00:04:46,051 But he's all in shadow. 75 00:04:49,656 --> 00:04:51,990 He's following me in here. 76 00:04:52,025 --> 00:04:58,363 He's energy is very dark, he definitely is influencing people. 77 00:05:00,099 --> 00:05:03,635 - Their behaviors... - What does he want in doing this? 78 00:05:03,670 --> 00:05:06,972 He likes to see the turmoil. 79 00:05:07,006 --> 00:05:12,177 - He's bringing up this anger. - Would you say what he's doing is dangerous? 80 00:05:12,211 --> 00:05:16,448 I think so, yeah, because like you get one person 81 00:05:16,482 --> 00:05:18,750 who is a ticking time bomb. 82 00:05:18,785 --> 00:05:23,455 And then he, you know, is not letting them sleep. 83 00:05:23,489 --> 00:05:25,390 You know, freaking them out. 84 00:05:26,959 --> 00:05:30,696 And if they're a ticking time bomb they could flip the [bleep] out, you know? 85 00:05:30,730 --> 00:05:33,976 And like beat somebody to death or something crazy, 86 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:38,303 so, you know, I think it's dangerous. Like he's playing with fire. 87 00:05:43,076 --> 00:05:47,279 Alright, so obviously this is the mattress you told me that Emma sleeps on. 88 00:05:47,313 --> 00:05:49,181 [Sherri] Yes. 89 00:05:49,215 --> 00:05:50,382 - This is not how people should be living, alright? - [Sherri] No, 90 00:05:50,416 --> 00:05:52,117 - especially a kid. - So what's going on? 91 00:05:52,151 --> 00:05:57,556 When I'm in the shower I'll hear heavy breathing on the other side of the curtain. 92 00:05:57,590 --> 00:05:59,858 - Describe the breathing for me. - It's heavy. 93 00:05:59,892 --> 00:06:01,827 I don't know, it's kind of gross sounding, 94 00:06:01,861 --> 00:06:05,397 they're like a really heavy set person, really heavy breathing. 95 00:06:05,431 --> 00:06:06,798 Does this happen when you're home alone? 96 00:06:06,833 --> 00:06:10,602 - Oh, I won't take a shower if I'm home alone. I refuse. - Really? 97 00:06:10,636 --> 00:06:13,305 Yes, I feel like there's always somebody waiting for me. 98 00:06:17,110 --> 00:06:22,914 [Amy] So this big guy, he just says he likes to [bleep] with people in their heads in here. 99 00:06:22,949 --> 00:06:27,886 I think he's talking about nightmares, manipulating dreams. 100 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:31,656 He's showing me he's actually going into dreams... 101 00:06:31,691 --> 00:06:38,163 and like being in whatever world that person's created. 102 00:06:42,635 --> 00:06:46,338 - Are they aware of him being there? - Sometimes they'll wake up 103 00:06:46,372 --> 00:06:47,906 and he's right there. 104 00:06:47,940 --> 00:06:54,146 So they're seeing then, I would think, a big figure sitting right up on them. 105 00:06:55,948 --> 00:07:00,185 And they wake up and they're like what the [bleep] and then he's, you know, 106 00:07:00,219 --> 00:07:01,319 out of there. 107 00:07:03,256 --> 00:07:06,758 [Steve] You got a lot of things going on in this house, anything else? 108 00:07:06,793 --> 00:07:08,794 I see shadow figures all over the house. 109 00:07:08,828 --> 00:07:11,897 - Describe what they look like to you. - Tall, 110 00:07:11,931 --> 00:07:15,734 - you can tell it's a person, you can see arms and legs. - Can you tell if it's a man 111 00:07:15,768 --> 00:07:20,105 - or a woman? - I always just thought man, more masculine, more dominant. 112 00:07:21,607 --> 00:07:24,509 - [whispers] Gosh, I'm sorry. - Why, what's the matter? 113 00:07:24,544 --> 00:07:29,247 - I saw something in there flop, I'm sorry. - What'd you see? 114 00:07:30,116 --> 00:07:31,616 A shadow. 115 00:07:31,651 --> 00:07:35,220 - Just now? - Yeah, when I looked past you I could see it in there. 116 00:07:37,457 --> 00:07:39,791 - You okay? - Yeah, I'm okay. I'm sorry. 117 00:07:39,826 --> 00:07:41,359 - No, don't be sorry. - I didn't expect that to happen. 118 00:07:41,394 --> 00:07:43,195 No, I'm just curious. 119 00:07:49,335 --> 00:07:50,635 I don't see it. 120 00:07:50,670 --> 00:07:52,871 - [Sherri clears throat] - Take some deep breaths, relax. 121 00:07:52,905 --> 00:07:56,208 - Nothing's gonna happen to you while I'm here, so... - [Sherri laughs nervously] 122 00:07:56,242 --> 00:07:58,677 - It was just standing right there. - And what happened? 123 00:07:58,711 --> 00:08:01,179 - It was just... - So I turned to look 124 00:08:01,214 --> 00:08:02,848 - and it was gone? - Yes. 125 00:08:02,882 --> 00:08:07,953 It gives you that feeling of... "I know you're talking about me and here I still am." 126 00:08:07,987 --> 00:08:10,789 - Trying to intimidate you. - Yeah, it did. It did. 127 00:08:10,823 --> 00:08:14,826 Whatever it is it can go [bleep] itself because it's not gonna intimidate me. 128 00:08:14,861 --> 00:08:16,928 - Right, right. - I know you live here, but... 129 00:08:16,963 --> 00:08:20,999 - it's not gonna stop us from doing our job. - Oh yeah, no. I hope not. 130 00:08:24,637 --> 00:08:27,639 [Amy] I see like a doorway open up here. 131 00:08:27,673 --> 00:08:31,610 Like literally a doorway, and then something like... 132 00:08:31,644 --> 00:08:34,346 you know, bending out and looking. 133 00:08:36,849 --> 00:08:38,817 I don't know what the [bleep] it is. 134 00:08:38,851 --> 00:08:43,388 It opens... this door opens and it's the night sky. 135 00:08:43,422 --> 00:08:45,957 You know, that this thing is coming from. 136 00:08:45,992 --> 00:08:51,763 When I first glimpsed it, it looked like if somebody put... 137 00:08:51,797 --> 00:08:55,433 you know, a sheet on someone so it looks like a ghost. 138 00:08:55,468 --> 00:08:57,669 But it was like a black sheet. 139 00:08:58,738 --> 00:09:02,541 And it floats, I mean... I don't know, it's bizarre. 140 00:09:03,643 --> 00:09:06,311 Cause like initially I'm like oh, some kind of like 141 00:09:06,345 --> 00:09:12,717 you know, doorway to another like dimension but then they're showing the night sky. 142 00:09:12,752 --> 00:09:16,087 Now I'm like, is it a [bleep] alien? 143 00:09:18,991 --> 00:09:23,194 I feel scared, I feel uncomfortable, really uncomfortable. 144 00:09:43,482 --> 00:09:45,951 [Steve] So, Matt, I'm glad you guys called us in. 145 00:09:45,985 --> 00:09:49,788 Talking to your wife, she's pretty sure a paranormal here is attacking your family. 146 00:09:49,822 --> 00:09:51,823 I mean, what's your thoughts on all that? 147 00:09:51,857 --> 00:09:56,828 I've never personally had any experiences, the only thing that I have is what 148 00:09:56,862 --> 00:10:00,498 all three of the girls have told me that's happened to them. 149 00:10:00,533 --> 00:10:03,568 And it's hard for me to discount what they've said 150 00:10:03,603 --> 00:10:05,103 because they all pretty much had the same story. 151 00:10:05,137 --> 00:10:08,807 - It's gotta torture you as a father and a husband. - It breaks my heart. 152 00:10:08,841 --> 00:10:12,577 So, Matt, I know you've had no experiences but is there anything that's happened 153 00:10:12,612 --> 00:10:15,046 in the house that you've seen you can't explain? 154 00:10:15,081 --> 00:10:20,151 The only thing that I can't explain is every once in a while 155 00:10:20,186 --> 00:10:23,555 we have lights flicker for no apparent reason in the house. 156 00:10:23,589 --> 00:10:25,056 It's a brand new house. 157 00:10:25,091 --> 00:10:29,761 I've tried to check the electrical, there's nothing electrical going on. 158 00:10:29,795 --> 00:10:32,664 The only other thing is possible, it could be paranormal. 159 00:10:32,698 --> 00:10:34,799 Amy doesn't like to tell people you gotta leave your home, 160 00:10:34,834 --> 00:10:38,670 but if she does suggest that, I mean, how would you take that information? 161 00:10:38,704 --> 00:10:41,973 I'm gonna do whatever it takes to take care of my family. 162 00:10:42,408 --> 00:10:43,575 Alright. 163 00:10:44,910 --> 00:10:50,348 [Amy] This alien thing is really creepy. It's like floating around. 164 00:10:50,383 --> 00:10:52,317 And then like it's touching, 165 00:10:52,351 --> 00:10:57,555 I think that this thing has touched people here, physically. 166 00:10:57,590 --> 00:11:02,327 Whoever was over here, being touched by it. 167 00:11:02,361 --> 00:11:05,730 The sheet's cold and her being touched... 168 00:11:05,765 --> 00:11:11,569 on... her side and her shoulder, she's on her side. 169 00:11:11,604 --> 00:11:14,639 Her arm, pulling her arm back. 170 00:11:16,008 --> 00:11:20,045 It's like almost like... kind of like an examination or something. 171 00:11:20,079 --> 00:11:23,682 - Are they aware of this happening? - Yeah, when this thing's here 172 00:11:23,716 --> 00:11:29,521 they can't do anything, this person is like frozen, like completely frozen. 173 00:11:29,555 --> 00:11:34,426 They're completely [bleep] terrified, you know. 174 00:11:39,999 --> 00:11:45,837 So, Emma, it's nice to meet you. Mom was talking about you and how she's worried. 175 00:11:45,871 --> 00:11:47,439 - You're having a tough time here. - Yeah. 176 00:11:47,473 --> 00:11:51,176 She also mentioned that she thinks you have abilities, do you think that's true? 177 00:11:51,210 --> 00:11:53,445 - Yeah. - Okay. 178 00:11:53,479 --> 00:11:54,879 - That your room? - Yeah. 179 00:11:54,914 --> 00:11:58,650 - Okay, I understand you don't like sleeping in there. - No, I don't. 180 00:11:58,684 --> 00:11:59,884 What's going on in there, honey? 181 00:11:59,919 --> 00:12:02,887 - I get really bad mood changes. - What happens? 182 00:12:02,922 --> 00:12:07,592 I'll come out of the room and I'll just be angry at everybody. 183 00:12:07,626 --> 00:12:10,128 - Really? You seem so sweet though, so is that... - [laughs] 184 00:12:10,162 --> 00:12:14,399 Is that you? Are you lashing out? Or something's making you change? 185 00:12:14,433 --> 00:12:18,002 Yeah, I'm normally nice to everybody. 186 00:12:18,037 --> 00:12:20,572 Alright, is that the main reason you don't like sleeping in there? 187 00:12:20,606 --> 00:12:23,875 - I see things in there too sometimes. - Like what? 188 00:12:23,909 --> 00:12:28,947 I've seen a shadow figure behind me while I was at my desk. 189 00:12:28,981 --> 00:12:32,984 It was tall, it kind of looked like it would be a guy shadow. 190 00:12:33,018 --> 00:12:37,188 - So, what other experiences have you had? - I had a scratch on my leg 191 00:12:37,223 --> 00:12:43,895 that started bleeding and the scratch just appeared, I don't know where it came from. 192 00:12:43,929 --> 00:12:48,466 This looks like a scratch that can happen almost anywhere, anytime. 193 00:12:48,501 --> 00:12:49,801 Did you wake up like this? 194 00:12:49,835 --> 00:12:53,571 - I was actually sitting on the couch downstairs. - Okay. 195 00:12:53,606 --> 00:12:56,741 And my leg started to itch, and I didn't know why. 196 00:12:56,776 --> 00:13:02,714 So I pulled my leggings up to scratch it and it was already bleeding. 197 00:13:02,748 --> 00:13:04,949 - Nothing was around you, you didn't do anything? - Mm-mm. 198 00:13:04,984 --> 00:13:09,754 - Were you out just prior to that, like in the yard? - Mm-mm. No. 199 00:13:09,789 --> 00:13:13,591 So you think whatever's here is trying to get to you? 200 00:13:13,626 --> 00:13:16,027 I do, yeah. I feel like that. 201 00:13:18,464 --> 00:13:20,231 [Amy] I'm getting two living females 202 00:13:20,266 --> 00:13:24,969 who've had really hardcore experiences with this thing. 203 00:13:25,004 --> 00:13:30,909 Then I'm getting somebody else being touched by it. I just saw somebody, a female in bed, 204 00:13:30,943 --> 00:13:36,548 it's dark and it's like pulling down or pulling off the covers. 205 00:13:36,582 --> 00:13:38,850 But she can feel like something on her, 206 00:13:38,884 --> 00:13:43,488 you know, like feeling it on her arm, her back, her side. 207 00:13:43,522 --> 00:13:46,491 That gives them that sense of fear and panic immediately. 208 00:13:48,027 --> 00:13:53,798 I would say that the living are feeling very scared when this is happening. 209 00:13:53,833 --> 00:13:58,970 That's scary [bleep] weird, I gotta say it's creepy. 210 00:14:05,511 --> 00:14:09,414 So, Jaylynn, I was talking to Mom and she's worried about you and your sister. 211 00:14:09,448 --> 00:14:12,317 - Yeah. - She feels that whatever's here is targeting you guys. 212 00:14:12,351 --> 00:14:13,518 Yeah, a lot. 213 00:14:13,552 --> 00:14:15,553 - Yeah, so you agree with that? - Yes. 214 00:14:15,588 --> 00:14:18,122 So as far as your experiences go, what's been going on with you? 215 00:14:18,157 --> 00:14:22,760 - I have nightmares sometimes. - So what kind of nightmares are you having? 216 00:14:22,795 --> 00:14:28,600 Family members die sometimes or bad things are happening in the family or the house. 217 00:14:28,634 --> 00:14:33,905 - So, what else is going on? - I've woken up with bruises before. 218 00:14:33,939 --> 00:14:36,608 - Okay, where? - On my face, like a line of them. 219 00:14:36,642 --> 00:14:39,244 I actually have some pictures. 220 00:14:42,581 --> 00:14:47,585 These are... odd-looking... bruises. 221 00:14:47,620 --> 00:14:50,054 - Do you have any health issues? - No. 222 00:14:50,089 --> 00:14:52,590 Is there anything that might've caused it, did you have anything... 223 00:14:52,625 --> 00:14:55,026 a bracelet on or anything that had something on it? 224 00:14:55,060 --> 00:15:01,499 No, I don't wear bracelets. Yeah, and the bed is not next to a wall or anything. 225 00:15:01,533 --> 00:15:03,534 - Your sister gets scratches. - Mm-hm. 226 00:15:03,569 --> 00:15:05,770 - You're getting bruises, I mean... - Mm-hm. Yeah. 227 00:15:05,804 --> 00:15:08,106 - That's not a good thing. - No. 228 00:15:09,841 --> 00:15:15,380 This alien, it seems to really be interested in this person. 229 00:15:15,414 --> 00:15:19,851 I'm wondering if this person has felt like they've been lifted out of the bed 230 00:15:19,885 --> 00:15:26,624 to some extent. I literally feel like they're waking up and falling back into the bed. 231 00:15:26,659 --> 00:15:29,727 Honestly, I felt like it wants to take them. 232 00:15:29,762 --> 00:15:32,931 - Just through this door or whatever? - Yeah. 233 00:15:33,732 --> 00:15:36,434 I feel like it wants to take them. 234 00:15:49,014 --> 00:15:52,383 [Steve] We've done a bunch of investigations in Arizona 235 00:15:52,418 --> 00:15:56,554 so I reached out to some of my contacts here. One of them, a local historian, 236 00:15:56,588 --> 00:16:00,758 says one of the original owners of Sherri and Matt's property was a huge success, 237 00:16:00,793 --> 00:16:04,195 until scandal and illness took him down. 238 00:16:09,902 --> 00:16:12,170 [Steve] Marshall, thanks for helping me out in this case. 239 00:16:12,204 --> 00:16:15,540 Now, you mentioned on the phone that the original owner of my client's property was 240 00:16:15,574 --> 00:16:17,608 pretty important around here, what do you mean by that? 241 00:16:17,643 --> 00:16:21,946 - Yeah, so Michael Brixton Morrison grew up in Texas. - Okay. 242 00:16:21,981 --> 00:16:25,683 - But he always had this dream of working in law enforcement. - Oh, okay. 243 00:16:25,718 --> 00:16:29,721 So at the age of 21 he winds up getting a job at the Yuma Prison. 244 00:16:29,755 --> 00:16:33,825 Which is round the border in Arizona. He is the one down here. 245 00:16:34,693 --> 00:16:36,828 - Okay, the guy without the hat. - Yes. 246 00:16:36,862 --> 00:16:39,464 - How did it go for him when he got there? - So he gets there 247 00:16:39,498 --> 00:16:41,466 and it's completely in disarray. 248 00:16:41,500 --> 00:16:44,135 I mean, there's not enough staff, it's mismanaged. 249 00:16:44,169 --> 00:16:49,607 And so to rectify that, the state decides that, instead of the Yuma Prison, 250 00:16:49,641 --> 00:16:52,744 they're going to build a brand-new prison in Florence. 251 00:16:52,778 --> 00:16:56,647 - Okay, so this person was a mess basically. - Exactly. 252 00:16:56,682 --> 00:17:00,618 And so he winds up with the opportunity to take the prisoners 253 00:17:00,652 --> 00:17:03,588 and be in charge of them as they build the brand-new prison. 254 00:17:03,622 --> 00:17:06,257 Alright, so his professional life seems to be going really well. 255 00:17:06,291 --> 00:17:09,394 - What about his personal life? - So he meets the love of his life, 256 00:17:09,428 --> 00:17:10,395 - Ruby Carpenter. - Okay. 257 00:17:10,429 --> 00:17:12,764 They have four kids and then in 1915 258 00:17:12,798 --> 00:17:16,734 he buys 160 acres and that includes your client's property. 259 00:17:16,769 --> 00:17:18,603 Okay, so he meets the love of his life, 260 00:17:18,637 --> 00:17:22,273 he was supervising these prisoners building their own prison, 261 00:17:22,307 --> 00:17:24,409 when the prison's finished, though, what does he do? 262 00:17:24,443 --> 00:17:25,877 So he actually gets a promotion, 263 00:17:25,911 --> 00:17:28,713 and he becomes the assistant superintendent and his job 264 00:17:28,747 --> 00:17:32,583 is to oversee, basically, the executions. 265 00:17:32,618 --> 00:17:34,919 Alright, if you got a weak stomach it's not really a great job. 266 00:17:34,953 --> 00:17:38,823 Yeah, and so by 1920 he actually was ready to move on 267 00:17:38,857 --> 00:17:41,492 so he quit his job at the prison, they move to Phoenix, 268 00:17:41,527 --> 00:17:43,628 he actually winds up becoming a policeman. 269 00:17:43,662 --> 00:17:47,665 - Okay. - And he quickly works his way up the rank. 270 00:17:47,699 --> 00:17:49,667 - And becomes a police chief. - Really? 271 00:17:49,701 --> 00:17:53,905 Alright, so this guy, every job he takes seems to be rising star. 272 00:17:53,939 --> 00:18:00,211 Until the mayor basically says he's charged with irregularities on the force. 273 00:18:00,245 --> 00:18:01,712 So he's forced to resign. 274 00:18:01,747 --> 00:18:04,715 - So what happened after that? - So pretty much his life was over. 275 00:18:04,750 --> 00:18:08,653 - I mean two years later, in July of 1938... - Okay. 276 00:18:08,687 --> 00:18:13,024 ...he goes in the hospital for symptoms of appendicitis, they operate, 277 00:18:13,058 --> 00:18:17,795 discover that his appendix has burst and infection is all throughout. 278 00:18:17,830 --> 00:18:23,201 And so after 13 excruciating days of being in the hospital, he passes away. 279 00:18:23,235 --> 00:18:27,538 - And here is his death certificate. - Okay, so this guy suffered. 280 00:18:27,573 --> 00:18:29,674 - Yeah. - He was 51 years old. 281 00:18:30,742 --> 00:18:34,412 I mean, this poor guy. It's a miserable way to go. 282 00:18:36,448 --> 00:18:41,252 [Amy] This big guy who gives people nightmares is following me everywhere. 283 00:18:41,286 --> 00:18:43,621 He was... 284 00:18:43,655 --> 00:18:47,158 involved with cars and horses 285 00:18:48,360 --> 00:18:50,461 and drugs and guns. 286 00:18:50,496 --> 00:18:52,930 He was really bad and he didn't move on 287 00:18:52,965 --> 00:18:58,603 because he didn't want to, so he just stays here and causes hell. 288 00:18:58,637 --> 00:19:04,675 I see a bunch of guys dead and they have shovels in their hands. 289 00:19:04,710 --> 00:19:07,044 And the weird thing was they were left to rot. 290 00:19:07,079 --> 00:19:14,018 So the earth now is like just filled with like their decomposed bodies. 291 00:19:14,052 --> 00:19:18,823 And there's like one trying to climb the fence but not doing a great job of it. 292 00:19:19,925 --> 00:19:22,827 Like if somebody's grabbing him and pulling him back. 293 00:19:22,861 --> 00:19:26,764 - Do they seem to have any kind of intent? - To me the feeling is like 294 00:19:26,798 --> 00:19:29,600 getting away and trying to get over here. 295 00:19:29,635 --> 00:19:33,337 Lot of fear here, like they're feeling... fear. 296 00:19:34,173 --> 00:19:36,007 They are scared. 297 00:19:38,777 --> 00:19:41,012 [Steve] So far I have a mother and her two daughters 298 00:19:41,046 --> 00:19:42,580 being terrorized by the paranormal 299 00:19:42,614 --> 00:19:47,852 on a property once owned by a man who oversaw executions at a nearby prison. 300 00:19:47,886 --> 00:19:50,321 But I wanna see if there's anything else. 301 00:19:51,723 --> 00:19:54,759 Searching through old records, I find a deadly house fire 302 00:19:54,793 --> 00:19:58,629 just 4000 feet from Sherri and Matt's house. 303 00:19:58,664 --> 00:20:02,567 I'm heading over to meet a local journalist who says this tragedy is heartbreaking, 304 00:20:02,601 --> 00:20:05,236 and worst of all, it could have been avoided. 305 00:20:11,543 --> 00:20:13,010 [Steve] So, Rofida, I appreciate you meeting with me. 306 00:20:13,045 --> 00:20:15,680 It sounded like a real brutal case, I mean, what did you find out? 307 00:20:15,714 --> 00:20:21,786 [Rofida] It is a very brutal story and it began on November 5th 1974. 308 00:20:21,820 --> 00:20:23,788 When Woodman Moore and his wife Juanita 309 00:20:23,822 --> 00:20:27,692 went out for the evening, leaving four children home alone. 310 00:20:27,726 --> 00:20:32,463 - Were they all their kids? - No, so there was Gary who was ten, 311 00:20:32,497 --> 00:20:35,466 Elizabeth who was seven, Brian who was six, 312 00:20:35,500 --> 00:20:37,735 - and those were their three kids. - Okay. 313 00:20:37,769 --> 00:20:41,672 And then they had a grandson by the name of John who was three. 314 00:20:41,707 --> 00:20:44,475 Alright, so let me get this straight, they left a ten-year-old home 315 00:20:44,509 --> 00:20:47,178 - in charge of these three other kids? - Mm-hm. 316 00:20:47,212 --> 00:20:48,813 So these kids are home alone, what the hell happened? 317 00:20:48,847 --> 00:20:55,419 So after the parents left the house at about 7:30pm the house goes up in flames. 318 00:20:55,454 --> 00:20:58,656 Gary, who is the oldest, he manages to jump out of a window 319 00:20:58,690 --> 00:21:00,691 and run to the neighbors to seek help. 320 00:21:00,726 --> 00:21:03,694 - So, what happened? - So, firefighters arrived on scene, 321 00:21:03,729 --> 00:21:07,465 but unfortunately the whole house was engulfed in flames. 322 00:21:07,499 --> 00:21:10,568 Tragically the three other children died. 323 00:21:10,602 --> 00:21:13,838 Okay, so something this tragic, they had to have an investigation, 324 00:21:13,872 --> 00:21:16,707 - I assume, right? - Mm-hm. Yes. There was an investigation 325 00:21:16,742 --> 00:21:19,176 and from it they determined that the fire started 326 00:21:19,211 --> 00:21:23,948 when Elizabeth went into the living room to turn off a space heater. 327 00:21:23,982 --> 00:21:28,185 And her sweater got caught in the space heater 328 00:21:28,220 --> 00:21:32,056 and the lint from the sweater actually sparked the fire 329 00:21:32,090 --> 00:21:36,861 and took the whole house with it. Here's an article on the fire. 330 00:21:36,895 --> 00:21:40,598 - What a shame. I'm sure they did autopsies, right? - Mm-hm. They did. 331 00:21:40,632 --> 00:21:44,268 The causes of death for all three were smoke inhalation. 332 00:21:44,303 --> 00:21:46,637 Do we have any idea what happened with the parents after this happened? 333 00:21:46,672 --> 00:21:49,807 Juanita and Woodman, they stayed in the area. 334 00:21:49,841 --> 00:21:53,711 But unfortunately they were never the same after this incident. 335 00:21:53,745 --> 00:21:59,150 - I couldn't imagine the guilt that these parents had. - Yeah, yeah, absolutely. 336 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:05,723 [Amy] So I'm getting like a young male living 337 00:22:05,757 --> 00:22:10,328 and this is like residual of him like freaking out. 338 00:22:11,830 --> 00:22:16,067 And I'm seeing the alien thing near this kid who is yelling and screaming. 339 00:22:16,101 --> 00:22:22,506 There's an electrical charge, there's like a charge to the air when this thing is around 340 00:22:22,541 --> 00:22:25,409 and it is affecting like electricity. 341 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:33,718 I don't know if light bulbs are exploding but they're dying, batteries are draining 342 00:22:33,752 --> 00:22:37,955 like so if there's a fire alarm it'll start, you know... 343 00:22:37,989 --> 00:22:39,924 you know, they change batteries and it's making that noise. 344 00:22:39,958 --> 00:22:44,528 I don't know what he's yelling about, I feel like he's scared. 345 00:22:44,563 --> 00:22:48,265 You know I think it's dangerous, like he's playing with fire. 346 00:22:49,401 --> 00:22:51,268 [sighs deeply] 347 00:22:56,708 --> 00:22:58,609 For more information about the show 348 00:22:58,643 --> 00:23:02,413 and if you need us to investigate unexplained activity in your home... 349 00:23:02,447 --> 00:23:05,082 Please visit TravelChannel.com/TheDeadFiles 350 00:23:05,117 --> 00:23:09,420 Click on "Help Me, Dead Files" to submit your story and we'll help if we can. 351 00:23:16,628 --> 00:23:19,163 [Steve] I just got a call from a former US Marshall. 352 00:23:19,197 --> 00:23:22,800 He says he found a pretty wild story about a guy who seemed to get away with murder 353 00:23:22,834 --> 00:23:27,371 near my client's property, but in the end he payed the ultimate price. 354 00:23:33,912 --> 00:23:36,380 Well, Mo, thanks for helping me out with this case. 355 00:23:36,415 --> 00:23:40,151 So, on the phone you said it was a pretty bad homicide, kind of brutal. 356 00:23:40,185 --> 00:23:42,787 - What do we know about the victim? - Petra Martinez was 357 00:23:42,821 --> 00:23:47,792 - 14 or 15 when she married Alex Rivera. - Okay. 358 00:23:47,826 --> 00:23:51,295 - They had four children, between the two of them. - Okay. 359 00:23:51,329 --> 00:23:52,930 1961... 360 00:23:53,632 --> 00:23:57,334 he dies, from perigastric issues. 361 00:23:57,369 --> 00:23:59,904 - So basically stomach problems. - Yeah. 362 00:23:59,938 --> 00:24:02,072 - How old was she when he died? - She was 20. 363 00:24:02,107 --> 00:24:06,744 Alright, so this is already a sad story for this woman, what happens after this? 364 00:24:06,778 --> 00:24:09,647 So in the next couple of years she starts a relationship 365 00:24:09,681 --> 00:24:12,750 with a guy by the name of James McGuffey. 366 00:24:12,784 --> 00:24:14,819 - Okay. - And the two of them have a child. 367 00:24:14,853 --> 00:24:19,790 1966, James is ordered to pay $30 a month in child support, 368 00:24:19,825 --> 00:24:21,859 it's about $240 in today's numbers. 369 00:24:21,893 --> 00:24:26,597 - Apparently their relationship wasn't that great. - Apparently not. 370 00:24:26,631 --> 00:24:30,601 Alright, so I know she winds up dead from a homicide, what happened? 371 00:24:30,635 --> 00:24:33,904 - So on June 10th, 1966... - Okay. 372 00:24:33,939 --> 00:24:37,341 ...the two of them, James and Petra, are seen leaving a bar 373 00:24:37,375 --> 00:24:38,809 about five o'clock in the afternoon. 374 00:24:38,844 --> 00:24:43,647 Five hours later they discover her naked and dead in the bathtub. 375 00:24:43,682 --> 00:24:46,016 You know how far she was found from the house I'm investigating? 376 00:24:46,051 --> 00:24:50,821 This took place about a mile and a half from your client's property. 377 00:24:50,856 --> 00:24:52,857 What about the autopsy, what did that show? 378 00:24:52,891 --> 00:24:55,726 Official cause from the autopsy was she was strangled. 379 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,562 So I gotta think at this point they're gonna look at James for this homicide. 380 00:24:58,597 --> 00:25:02,700 Nine days later, June 19th, they hook him up for the murder. 381 00:25:02,734 --> 00:25:08,305 Okay, so did he confess? Did they have evidence, what's the story? 382 00:25:08,340 --> 00:25:10,407 It was all circumstantial. 383 00:25:10,442 --> 00:25:14,245 They didn't have enough on him to hold him, they kicked him loose. 384 00:25:14,279 --> 00:25:16,981 More than likely this guy got away with murder. What happens with him after that? 385 00:25:17,015 --> 00:25:21,785 Following year... James is serving a sentence for assault 386 00:25:21,820 --> 00:25:23,954 on another woman, they found in a ditch. 387 00:25:23,989 --> 00:25:30,194 November 1st, 1967, they found him in a jail cell, he hung himself. 388 00:25:32,030 --> 00:25:34,999 Alright, so this guy was a real [bleep] and he did us a favor by killing himself 389 00:25:35,033 --> 00:25:40,304 but now we got... six victims. We got Petra and the five kids. 390 00:25:40,338 --> 00:25:42,039 - Yeah. - It's a shame. 391 00:25:44,042 --> 00:25:49,980 [Amy] I got... a severe headache, it literally feels like somebody has their hand 392 00:25:50,015 --> 00:25:55,185 on the back of my neck and they're just squeezing it really hard 393 00:25:55,220 --> 00:25:59,256 and it feels like a male's hand. [clears throat] 394 00:25:59,291 --> 00:26:02,793 I did get a deceased female. 395 00:26:02,827 --> 00:26:08,065 I feel like someone possibly had head and neck trauma 396 00:26:08,500 --> 00:26:10,067 from an attack. 397 00:26:11,202 --> 00:26:15,739 The male who killed her carries her dead body around. 398 00:26:15,774 --> 00:26:17,841 Any idea why he'd be carrying her around like this? 399 00:26:17,876 --> 00:26:24,682 He just liked how she ended up, physically... after he murdered her. 400 00:26:24,716 --> 00:26:28,586 And so it's kind of like a trophy that he carries with him. 401 00:26:28,620 --> 00:26:32,189 Definitely killed others round here. 402 00:26:41,066 --> 00:26:46,503 I saw a lot of disturbing things on my walk, but two have me very concerned. 403 00:26:46,538 --> 00:26:51,942 First, the big guy. His face shape was kind of wider. 404 00:26:52,344 --> 00:26:54,645 More squared. 405 00:26:54,679 --> 00:27:00,250 Late 40s, early 50s and he was big, I mean pushing 300 pounds. 406 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:08,392 So the nose had like I think pock marks or something like that on it. 407 00:27:11,029 --> 00:27:15,766 Next I described the alien that's hovering over a living person. 408 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:21,338 There was kind of this weird doorway and then this thing came 409 00:27:21,373 --> 00:27:25,609 through it, it looked like somebody was wearing a black sheet. 410 00:27:25,644 --> 00:27:31,982 In the bed, there's an older woman being repeatedly bothered. 411 00:27:35,620 --> 00:27:37,955 Amy, is this what you saw? 412 00:27:38,523 --> 00:27:40,424 Yes, that's what I saw. 413 00:28:00,412 --> 00:28:03,047 [Steve] Now that Amy and I have completed our investigations 414 00:28:03,081 --> 00:28:08,118 we're ready to reveal our findings to each other and our clients for the first time. 415 00:28:08,153 --> 00:28:13,123 So, guys, I'd like you to meet Amy. She's gonna be doing the reveal from a separate room 416 00:28:13,158 --> 00:28:16,727 so she can focus on your case and the dead without any distractions. 417 00:28:16,761 --> 00:28:18,796 Amy, meet Sherri and her husband Matt. 418 00:28:18,830 --> 00:28:22,833 Now, they live here with their two teenage daughters. 419 00:28:23,635 --> 00:28:27,404 In the middle is Jaylynn, who is 17, 420 00:28:27,439 --> 00:28:30,641 and on the left with the glasses is Emma, who's 15. 421 00:28:30,675 --> 00:28:32,609 These guys moved here about a year ago 422 00:28:32,644 --> 00:28:34,478 and this was supposed to be their dream house. 423 00:28:34,512 --> 00:28:37,047 As you can imagine, things are really bad here 424 00:28:37,082 --> 00:28:39,450 and Sherri doesn't think it's safe for anyone. 425 00:28:39,484 --> 00:28:41,652 That's why they called us in. 426 00:28:41,686 --> 00:28:45,989 So unless Amy's got some questions for you guys, she'll tell us about her walk. 427 00:28:47,759 --> 00:28:53,263 I encountered a very large man who died some time ago. 428 00:28:53,298 --> 00:28:59,737 He has been confined to the darkness or to the shadows he says. 429 00:28:59,771 --> 00:29:06,009 He decided not to move on because he 430 00:29:06,044 --> 00:29:11,582 would prefer to stay and basically just cause and create havoc. 431 00:29:11,616 --> 00:29:18,655 One of the ways that he does this is by controlling people's dreams. 432 00:29:18,690 --> 00:29:23,694 He's able to enter them and manipulate the dreams themselves. 433 00:29:23,728 --> 00:29:26,897 Now, Amy said he likes to be in the shadows. 434 00:29:26,931 --> 00:29:30,134 - Sherri and the girls have all seen shadows. - Dark, thick shadow. 435 00:29:30,168 --> 00:29:35,038 You could see the head, the shoulder, see the arms go down, but he is tall. 436 00:29:35,073 --> 00:29:39,143 So, Amy, something that never happens when I'm around happened. 437 00:29:39,177 --> 00:29:41,612 When I was upstairs talking with Sherri in the master bedroom, 438 00:29:41,646 --> 00:29:44,148 she saw a shadow figure behind me. 439 00:29:45,784 --> 00:29:47,951 - My gosh, I'm sorry. - Why, what's the matter? 440 00:29:47,986 --> 00:29:53,524 - I saw something in there flop. I'm sorry. - What'd you see? 441 00:29:53,558 --> 00:29:56,493 - A shadow. - Just now? 442 00:29:56,528 --> 00:29:59,496 Yeah, when I looked past you I could see it. 443 00:29:59,531 --> 00:30:01,999 So I checked and I couldn't find anything causing a shadow 444 00:30:02,033 --> 00:30:05,169 but I can tell you, I know people, I read them really well. 445 00:30:05,203 --> 00:30:11,675 There's no way she was faking the reaction that she had when she saw this thing. 446 00:30:11,709 --> 00:30:14,789 I felt like it was trying to intimidate me, like it... 447 00:30:14,813 --> 00:30:19,516 - wasn't gonna leave, it was gonna stay around. - That makes sense. 448 00:30:19,551 --> 00:30:20,584 The other thing was nightmares. 449 00:30:20,618 --> 00:30:23,854 Jaylynn's dreaming about people getting murdered. 450 00:30:23,888 --> 00:30:26,156 Emma was dreaming about people getting taken. 451 00:30:27,559 --> 00:30:29,560 - Interesting. - Okay. 452 00:30:29,594 --> 00:30:34,832 Another thing that he does is he likes to amplify 453 00:30:34,866 --> 00:30:39,670 individual's emotions, specifically negative ones. 454 00:30:39,704 --> 00:30:45,442 So hatred, anger, depression... things of that nature. 455 00:30:45,476 --> 00:30:47,744 So, Sherri, do me a favor and tell Amy 456 00:30:47,779 --> 00:30:50,113 how Emma, when she gets angry, is like a totally different person. 457 00:30:50,148 --> 00:30:55,752 Oh yeah, if she's in her room for any length of time her whole mood changes. 458 00:30:55,787 --> 00:31:01,825 She's very... She can be mean, she's angry, frustrated. 459 00:31:01,860 --> 00:31:04,828 - Emma's not the only one that's got anger issues here. - No. 460 00:31:04,863 --> 00:31:08,332 - Tell Amy about yourself. - There's days where... 461 00:31:08,366 --> 00:31:13,437 it is really really bad and I don't have the tolerance for anything or anybody. 462 00:31:13,471 --> 00:31:15,739 - Matt gets the brunt of it. - And you're pretty understanding about it 463 00:31:15,773 --> 00:31:17,774 cause you feel it's the paranormal that's doing it. 464 00:31:17,809 --> 00:31:22,546 Yeah, I do my best. I chalk it up to there's something else that's causing... 465 00:31:22,580 --> 00:31:24,982 - Right. - ...the majority of these emotions. 466 00:31:25,016 --> 00:31:26,516 Now could this guy be doing all this? 467 00:31:26,551 --> 00:31:29,586 Yeah, it's all things that he is capable of. 468 00:31:30,655 --> 00:31:32,856 Did you get anything on this guy when he was alive? 469 00:31:32,891 --> 00:31:38,795 I did get that he was a big guy, approximately 6'1", 300 pounds. 470 00:31:38,830 --> 00:31:43,834 He told me that when he was alive, he was not a good person. 471 00:31:43,868 --> 00:31:50,107 He was mixed up with guns, drugs, horses in a bad way. 472 00:31:50,141 --> 00:31:54,511 He may be affiliated with some other males I encountered. 473 00:31:54,545 --> 00:31:59,516 These males had died here, they were all holding shovels. 474 00:31:59,550 --> 00:32:04,788 And they were just left to rot. These men were very scared. 475 00:32:04,822 --> 00:32:09,393 And they were trying to run away from something, they were trying to climb over the fence 476 00:32:09,460 --> 00:32:12,496 but they couldn't quite make it over. 477 00:32:12,530 --> 00:32:15,065 A lot of the stuff she's talking about 478 00:32:15,099 --> 00:32:19,670 is making me think of one of the original owners of the property here. 479 00:32:19,704 --> 00:32:23,941 His name was Michael Morrison. Around 1908 when Morrison was 21 years old, 480 00:32:23,975 --> 00:32:28,679 he started working as a prison guard in Yuma, Arizona. 481 00:32:28,713 --> 00:32:30,180 But conditions were bad there, 482 00:32:30,214 --> 00:32:35,452 so the state decided to build a new prison nearby in Florence. 483 00:32:35,486 --> 00:32:39,523 Morrison supervised the inmates who basically had to build their own prison. 484 00:32:39,557 --> 00:32:41,758 Which involved a lot of digging with shovels and stuff. 485 00:32:41,793 --> 00:32:44,861 He was eventually promoted to be assistant superintendent, 486 00:32:44,896 --> 00:32:49,666 which is a big position for a prison, and he oversaw several executions 487 00:32:49,701 --> 00:32:52,336 which at that time were all hangings. 488 00:32:52,370 --> 00:32:55,372 1920, he left the prison and became a cop. 489 00:32:55,406 --> 00:33:00,110 So by the mid thirties he rose to the top and was made police chief 490 00:33:00,144 --> 00:33:05,716 but there was a huge scandal about him, corruption, doing whatever he was doing 491 00:33:05,750 --> 00:33:09,786 and he was forced to resign. Now after this his life was pretty much over. 492 00:33:09,821 --> 00:33:16,059 1938 he went to the hospital for appendicitis, when they did the operation it burst. 493 00:33:16,094 --> 00:33:20,664 - Oh! - 13 days later he was dead. He was 51 years old. 494 00:33:20,698 --> 00:33:24,601 Only thing I could find on this guy was this old picture of him. 495 00:33:24,635 --> 00:33:28,672 He looks burly, I don't know about 300 but he's a stocky guy. 496 00:33:28,706 --> 00:33:32,476 - Any chance Morrison could be this guy? - I did have a sketch done 497 00:33:32,510 --> 00:33:35,979 of what I saw of this individual. 498 00:33:42,453 --> 00:33:44,187 [Steve] Oh, yeah. 499 00:33:46,624 --> 00:33:49,459 You guys, look at this. 500 00:33:49,494 --> 00:33:53,163 - Wow! Yeah. - See the nose? 501 00:33:53,197 --> 00:33:58,235 You can see the chin and all the way down even to the rolls in his neck 502 00:33:58,269 --> 00:34:00,937 are very similar. 503 00:34:00,972 --> 00:34:03,440 - Oh, me I've seen a thousand sketches. - Yeah. 504 00:34:03,474 --> 00:34:05,976 And I can tell you, they're never really close. 505 00:34:06,010 --> 00:34:10,514 But when you have a distinctive nose like that, and that chin... 506 00:34:10,548 --> 00:34:12,682 So you're thinking it could be Morrison? 507 00:34:12,717 --> 00:34:17,287 I mean it seems... pretty likely. 508 00:34:19,824 --> 00:34:23,527 - [Steve] How did the rest of the walk go? - [Amy] So now we're gonna talk 509 00:34:23,561 --> 00:34:28,743 about something that I was not prepared for 510 00:34:28,767 --> 00:34:32,903 and I feel that it's dangerous. 511 00:34:32,937 --> 00:34:38,241 I encountered it in the room, if you go upstairs and turn left. 512 00:34:38,276 --> 00:34:39,643 So that's Emma's room. 513 00:34:39,677 --> 00:34:43,814 It was right by the closet in that room 514 00:34:43,848 --> 00:34:48,285 and what I saw was like... bear with me, 515 00:34:48,319 --> 00:34:51,755 the wall just kind of went away 516 00:34:51,789 --> 00:34:57,961 and then I just saw this guy, like darkness, stars, all of this 517 00:34:57,995 --> 00:35:04,534 and I felt like it was kind of a doorway to an alternate dimension. 518 00:35:04,569 --> 00:35:06,636 And what was coming through it 519 00:35:06,671 --> 00:35:12,576 was this very dark shape, kind of floating. 520 00:35:12,610 --> 00:35:15,011 My feeling was, honestly, 521 00:35:15,046 --> 00:35:21,017 and I can't explain why, is that it was some type of alien. 522 00:35:22,787 --> 00:35:24,855 - And it was terrifying. - [Sherri] Huh! 523 00:35:24,889 --> 00:35:27,757 We're talking about frickin' aliens now, right? 524 00:35:27,792 --> 00:35:31,595 - Now, Sherri, Emma told me she's terrified of her room. - Mm-hm. 525 00:35:31,629 --> 00:35:33,830 She actually sleeps in the master bedroom with them, 526 00:35:33,865 --> 00:35:35,966 there's a mattress they lay down for her. 527 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:40,770 She's just scared, she hates her closet, her closet light always comes on. 528 00:35:40,805 --> 00:35:43,707 And when I interviewed her she told me that she felt 529 00:35:43,741 --> 00:35:46,843 - as if something was watching her from the closet. - Right, right. 530 00:35:46,878 --> 00:35:50,180 - Now, you guys think Emma has abilities. - I do, yes. 531 00:35:51,616 --> 00:35:55,318 - So why do you feel like she has abilities? - She was at such a young age 532 00:35:55,353 --> 00:36:00,056 when she started talking about it, that we figured, okay, it's an imaginary friend. 533 00:36:00,091 --> 00:36:04,528 - Now she's 15 years old, it should be gone by now. - And still going. 534 00:36:04,562 --> 00:36:07,197 - I actually didn't get abilities off her. - Okay. 535 00:36:08,566 --> 00:36:10,400 That's very interesting. 536 00:36:10,434 --> 00:36:12,702 So how does this thing affect the living here? 537 00:36:12,737 --> 00:36:16,907 When it enters a room it does carry some kind of weird electrical charge. 538 00:36:16,941 --> 00:36:21,645 - It affects lights, batteries, fire alarms. - So... 539 00:36:21,679 --> 00:36:26,783 This house is just over a year old and for no apparent reason at all 540 00:36:26,817 --> 00:36:29,753 all the lights in the upstairs can flicker. 541 00:36:30,721 --> 00:36:35,425 This thing has in fact made physical contact 542 00:36:35,459 --> 00:36:37,994 with individuals in the home. 543 00:36:38,029 --> 00:36:45,068 What I saw happening was this thing coming up and touching the arm, 544 00:36:45,102 --> 00:36:50,907 the shoulder, going down the spine, and it really, to me, 545 00:36:50,942 --> 00:36:55,645 it was almost like a medical examination that this thing was doing. 546 00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:57,614 [Steve] Tell Amy what happened with Emma. 547 00:36:57,648 --> 00:37:00,984 Both of us just kicking back on the couch 548 00:37:01,018 --> 00:37:04,454 and she said that her leg kind of started itching 549 00:37:04,488 --> 00:37:06,690 - Mm-hm. - And couldn't figure out why 550 00:37:06,724 --> 00:37:09,759 so she lifts up her pant legs and there's this scratch there 551 00:37:09,794 --> 00:37:15,031 - and it's already bleeding. - Actually, we got a photo of it here, Amy. 552 00:37:16,500 --> 00:37:22,305 Do me a favor and talk to Amy about Jaylynn's bruises. 553 00:37:22,340 --> 00:37:24,441 She had bruises all down her face. 554 00:37:24,475 --> 00:37:26,776 - Her face? - Her face. They started at the top 555 00:37:26,811 --> 00:37:30,413 where her forehead is, and literally came... it was like dots, they just came around 556 00:37:30,448 --> 00:37:36,019 - all the way around to her chin. It was very strange. - Here's the photos, here. 557 00:37:36,053 --> 00:37:39,422 - And she woke up with these? - Yeah, I was like, "Where'd those come from?" 558 00:37:39,457 --> 00:37:40,757 She's like, "I don't know." 559 00:37:40,791 --> 00:37:42,826 Now, you said this thing's from another dimension. 560 00:37:42,860 --> 00:37:45,729 - I mean, what the hell would it look like? - I actually had a sketch done 561 00:37:45,763 --> 00:37:48,031 of what I perceived. 562 00:37:53,571 --> 00:37:55,272 This looks like Emma's room. 563 00:37:56,340 --> 00:37:58,041 This might upset you. 564 00:38:01,112 --> 00:38:02,345 Wow! 565 00:38:05,383 --> 00:38:07,917 This is what's watching her? 566 00:38:07,952 --> 00:38:12,922 I really don't even know what to say about that, that's heartbreaking. 567 00:38:12,957 --> 00:38:19,095 - And as a father, it's enough to piss you off. - I'm just shocked. 568 00:38:20,665 --> 00:38:26,403 I'm concerned. And the thing I was extremely concerned about 569 00:38:26,437 --> 00:38:29,606 was that this alien was very much 570 00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:33,710 discussing its want to take... to take... 571 00:38:34,545 --> 00:38:38,715 this female or now females... with it. 572 00:38:38,749 --> 00:38:43,687 It's possible you guys have been abducted together. 573 00:38:43,721 --> 00:38:47,424 - What the hell am I gonna do? - I knew there was something here and I knew there was 574 00:38:47,458 --> 00:38:48,658 something wrong with Emma's room, 575 00:38:48,693 --> 00:38:51,561 like I know there's something wrong with that room. 576 00:38:51,595 --> 00:38:55,332 But I didn't... I didn't expect that. 577 00:39:11,782 --> 00:39:14,884 So you guys called us in because you thought 578 00:39:14,919 --> 00:39:17,020 something was threatening your family, especially Emma. 579 00:39:17,054 --> 00:39:22,192 I bet in a million years you never thought it was some entity from another dimension. 580 00:39:22,226 --> 00:39:25,962 Now we have to answer the big question, is there any way you can stay here and fight 581 00:39:25,996 --> 00:39:29,766 what you have in the house? Or is it time to get the hell outta here? 582 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,369 For that answer I'm gonna turn it over to Amy. 583 00:39:37,308 --> 00:39:39,442 What I would like for you to do 584 00:39:39,477 --> 00:39:44,581 is to find a very masculine 585 00:39:44,615 --> 00:39:50,420 male medium. He will be able to get 586 00:39:50,454 --> 00:39:53,723 this guy out of your house. 587 00:39:53,758 --> 00:39:58,228 Which is gonna stop them from having these bad dreams, the anxiety, the anger 588 00:39:58,262 --> 00:40:00,230 - and all that crap? - Yes. 589 00:40:01,799 --> 00:40:04,134 - So that's one less thing... - Right, right. 590 00:40:04,168 --> 00:40:06,469 - ...they gotta worry about. - That's good. 591 00:40:06,504 --> 00:40:08,805 But we still have to deal with the biggest issue: 592 00:40:08,839 --> 00:40:13,643 The alien. My suggestion is to stay here. 593 00:40:13,677 --> 00:40:19,349 Because you can't escape from the alien. 594 00:40:20,785 --> 00:40:24,788 I believe that this has been with you for quite some time 595 00:40:24,822 --> 00:40:28,925 and it will go with you wherever you go. 596 00:40:28,959 --> 00:40:33,763 - So, they're just gonna keep getting abducted? - Yes. 597 00:40:33,798 --> 00:40:39,803 [Amy] So that's why I suggest educating yourselves about this type of phenomena. 598 00:40:39,837 --> 00:40:44,974 Finding a local group of experiencers. 599 00:40:45,009 --> 00:40:47,911 UFO groups, things of that nature. 600 00:40:47,945 --> 00:40:51,448 So that you can get some guidance there and some help there 601 00:40:51,482 --> 00:40:55,685 in dealing with this phenomenon. 602 00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:57,554 How you feel about everything you heard tonight, 603 00:40:57,588 --> 00:40:59,589 I mean what's going through your mind? 604 00:40:59,623 --> 00:41:05,195 Yeah, we're definitely gonna do whatever it takes to do 605 00:41:05,229 --> 00:41:10,500 - at least as much as we can. - I'm gonna start doing research, yeah. Definitely. 606 00:41:10,534 --> 00:41:14,504 So as far as the paranormal side of things, are you gonna take Amy's advice to do that? 607 00:41:14,538 --> 00:41:15,839 - Get this male medium? - Oh, yeah. 608 00:41:15,873 --> 00:41:19,576 - Absolutely. That'll make things a lot better. - Oh, yeah. 609 00:41:19,610 --> 00:41:23,213 Appreciate what you've done. I can't thank you enough. 610 00:41:24,748 --> 00:41:27,617 [Amy] I wish I had better news for Matt and Sherri, 611 00:41:27,651 --> 00:41:30,854 but unfortunately they won't be able to get rid of the aliens. 612 00:41:30,888 --> 00:41:34,390 They will just have to learn how to adapt and live with them. 613 00:41:34,425 --> 00:41:36,659 But if they bring in a medium to get rid of the big guy, 614 00:41:36,694 --> 00:41:40,396 the activity in the house will go down considerably. 615 00:41:40,431 --> 00:41:42,799 And they should be able to face these challenges 616 00:41:42,833 --> 00:41:46,102 in a much more peaceful and calm environment. 617 00:41:46,152 --> 00:41:50,702 Repair and Synchronization by Easy Subtitles Synchronizer 1.0.0.0 57875

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