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[Amy]
It's pulling off the covers.
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Sometimes I'll wake up
and he's right there.
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I've woken up
with bruises before.
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- It was just standing right there.
- What did you see?
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A shadow.
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I felt like it wants
to take them.
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They discover her naked
and dead in the bathtub.
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To me, it was almost like a medical
examination that this thing was doing.
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[Amy] I feel scared, I feel
uncomfortable, really uncomfortable.
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The dark is getting darker.
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My name is Amy Allan.
I see dead people.
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There is a skinwalker here.
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I speak to dead people...
and they speak to me.
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He wants to collect the women.
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But there's only one way to
know if my findings are real.
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They are sucking the life
out of these people.
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- I rely on my partner.
- I'm Steve DiSchiavi.
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I'm a retired New York City
homicide detective.
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This is the kind of case that
would have haunted me.
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And I know every person,
every house... has secrets.
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- It's my job to reveal them.
- But Steve and I never speak.
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- We never communicate during an investigation.
- Until the very end.
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- Is that what I think it is?
- Yes.
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- When we uncover if it's safe for you to stay...
- I told you
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it was trying to kill me.
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Or time to get out.
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You have a dead person
inside you.
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[Steve] So I'm out here in Coolidge,
Arizona. It's about an hour south of Phoenix.
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I got an emotional call from
a woman named Sherri
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who says her family is in big
danger from all the paranormal activity.
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Sherri says they're in a bind. Can't
afford to leave, can't afford to stay.
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It sounds like a horrible situation
and they desperately need our help.
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[Amy] Oh, wow. This place
is bad. Lot of fear here.
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I feel scared.
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And then I heard
"There is no hope."
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[Steve] So, Sherri, I gotta tell
you it's really peaceful out here.
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But when we spoke on the phone it sounded
like you were living in a hell hole.
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Yes, my family feels like
they're being tortured.
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It's really scary, kind of tearing
everybody apart, not knowing...
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- what's gonna happen next.
- Okay.
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Now, this is a pretty decent sized
house, who all lives in the house?
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So it's... it's me, my husband,
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my daughter Jaylynn, she's 17
and my daughter Emma, she's 15.
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- Okay, so how long are you here?
- We've been here a year.
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- Were people here before?
- No, this is a brand-new house.
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Okay, did you guys ever have any
experiences like this before you moved here?
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Not this bad.
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- So you've had experiences before?
- Mm-hm.
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So do you think you brought
something here?
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I think Emma brings things in.
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- So you think she has abilities?
- Yes.
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- Okay.
- Emma's had problems since she was little.
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She's talked about stuff
since she was young.
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- And Emma's too scared to go into her room.
- Really?
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Yes.
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She sleeps in our room.
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- As a mom that's gotta be driving you insane.
- Yes.
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Very heartbreaking.
They come first.
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- I understand that.
- They're the most important.
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But I can't...
I can't help them.
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Alright, so, Sherri do me
a favor and give me a list
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of what's going on in the house.
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There's mood changes, hearing
voices, seeing shadow figures
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and now it's getting physical.
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- [Steve] So now, the mood changes, who does that affect?
- Me and my daughter Emma.
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If she's in her room,
it causes her anger.
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- She gets very angry.
- Okay.
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Um, mine...
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can be out of the blue, I can be doing
something and it's just this surge of...
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- It's just rage.
- Why don't you guys just find another place?
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- In all honesty, I think it'll just go wherever we go.
- So we gotta figure this out.
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- Yeah.
- Okay.
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[Amy] I see this big guy, put
him at 6' 1", probably 300 pounds.
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But he's all in shadow.
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He's following me in here.
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He's energy is very dark, he
definitely is influencing people.
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- Their behaviors...
- What does he want in doing this?
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He likes to see the turmoil.
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- He's bringing up this anger.
- Would you say what he's doing is dangerous?
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I think so, yeah, because
like you get one person
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who is a ticking time bomb.
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And then he, you know,
is not letting them sleep.
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You know, freaking them out.
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And if they're a ticking time bomb
they could flip the [bleep] out, you know?
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And like beat somebody
to death or something crazy,
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so, you know, I think it's
dangerous. Like he's playing with fire.
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Alright, so obviously this is the mattress
you told me that Emma sleeps on.
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[Sherri] Yes.
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- This is not how people should be living, alright?
- [Sherri] No,
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- especially a kid.
- So what's going on?
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When I'm in the shower I'll hear heavy
breathing on the other side of the curtain.
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- Describe the breathing for me.
- It's heavy.
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I don't know, it's kind
of gross sounding,
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they're like a really heavy set
person, really heavy breathing.
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Does this happen
when you're home alone?
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- Oh, I won't take a shower if I'm home alone. I refuse.
- Really?
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Yes, I feel like there's always
somebody waiting for me.
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[Amy] So this big guy, he just says he likes
to [bleep] with people in their heads in here.
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I think he's talking about
nightmares, manipulating dreams.
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He's showing me he's actually
going into dreams...
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and like being in whatever
world that person's created.
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- Are they aware of him being there?
- Sometimes they'll wake up
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and he's right there.
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So they're seeing then, I would think,
a big figure sitting right up on them.
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And they wake up and they're like
what the [bleep] and then he's, you know,
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out of there.
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[Steve] You got a lot of things
going on in this house, anything else?
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I see shadow figures
all over the house.
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- Describe what they look like to you.
- Tall,
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- you can tell it's a person, you can see arms and legs.
- Can you tell if it's a man
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- or a woman?
- I always just thought man, more masculine, more dominant.
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- [whispers] Gosh, I'm sorry.
- Why, what's the matter?
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- I saw something in there flop, I'm sorry.
- What'd you see?
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A shadow.
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- Just now?
- Yeah, when I looked past you I could see it in there.
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- You okay?
- Yeah, I'm okay. I'm sorry.
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- No, don't be sorry.
- I didn't expect that to happen.
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No, I'm just curious.
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I don't see it.
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- [Sherri clears throat] - Take
some deep breaths, relax.
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- Nothing's gonna happen to you while I'm here, so...
- [Sherri laughs nervously]
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- It was just standing right there.
- And what happened?
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- It was just...
- So I turned to look
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- and it was gone?
- Yes.
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It gives you that feeling of... "I know
you're talking about me and here I still am."
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- Trying to intimidate you.
- Yeah, it did. It did.
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Whatever it is it can go [bleep] itself
because it's not gonna intimidate me.
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- Right, right.
- I know you live here, but...
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- it's not gonna stop us from doing our job.
- Oh yeah, no. I hope not.
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[Amy] I see like a doorway
open up here.
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Like literally a doorway,
and then something like...
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you know, bending out
and looking.
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I don't know
what the [bleep] it is.
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It opens... this door opens
and it's the night sky.
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You know, that this thing
is coming from.
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When I first glimpsed it, it
looked like if somebody put...
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you know, a sheet on someone
so it looks like a ghost.
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But it was like a black sheet.
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And it floats, I mean...
I don't know, it's bizarre.
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Cause like initially I'm like
oh, some kind of like
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you know, doorway to another like dimension
but then they're showing the night sky.
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Now I'm like,
is it a [bleep] alien?
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I feel scared, I feel
uncomfortable, really uncomfortable.
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[Steve] So, Matt, I'm glad
you guys called us in.
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Talking to your wife, she's pretty sure a
paranormal here is attacking your family.
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I mean, what's your thoughts
on all that?
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I've never personally had any experiences,
the only thing that I have is what
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all three of the girls have told
me that's happened to them.
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And it's hard for me to
discount what they've said
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because they all pretty much
had the same story.
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- It's gotta torture you as a father and a husband.
- It breaks my heart.
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So, Matt, I know you've had no experiences
but is there anything that's happened
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in the house that you've seen
you can't explain?
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The only thing that I can't
explain is every once in a while
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we have lights flicker for no
apparent reason in the house.
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It's a brand new house.
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I've tried to check the electrical,
there's nothing electrical going on.
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The only other thing is
possible, it could be paranormal.
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Amy doesn't like to tell people
you gotta leave your home,
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but if she does suggest that, I mean,
how would you take that information?
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I'm gonna do whatever it takes
to take care of my family.
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Alright.
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[Amy] This alien thing is really
creepy. It's like floating around.
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And then like it's touching,
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I think that this thing has
touched people here, physically.
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Whoever was over here,
being touched by it.
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The sheet's cold and her
being touched...
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on... her side and her
shoulder, she's on her side.
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Her arm, pulling her arm back.
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It's like almost like... kind of
like an examination or something.
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- Are they aware of this happening?
- Yeah, when this thing's here
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they can't do anything, this person
is like frozen, like completely frozen.
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They're completely
[bleep] terrified, you know.
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So, Emma, it's nice to meet you. Mom was
talking about you and how she's worried.
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- You're having a tough time here.
- Yeah.
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She also mentioned that she thinks you
have abilities, do you think that's true?
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- Yeah.
- Okay.
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- That your room?
- Yeah.
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- Okay, I understand you don't like sleeping in there.
- No, I don't.
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What's going on in there, honey?
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- I get really bad mood changes.
- What happens?
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I'll come out of the room and
I'll just be angry at everybody.
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- Really? You seem so sweet though, so is that...
- [laughs]
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Is that you? Are you lashing out?
Or something's making you change?
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Yeah, I'm normally
nice to everybody.
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Alright, is that the main reason
you don't like sleeping in there?
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- I see things in there too sometimes.
- Like what?
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I've seen a shadow figure
behind me while I was at my desk.
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It was tall, it kind of looked
like it would be a guy shadow.
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- So, what other experiences have you had?
- I had a scratch on my leg
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that started bleeding and the scratch just
appeared, I don't know where it came from.
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This looks like a scratch that can
happen almost anywhere, anytime.
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Did you wake up like this?
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- I was actually sitting on the couch downstairs.
- Okay.
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And my leg started to itch,
and I didn't know why.
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So I pulled my leggings up to
scratch it and it was already bleeding.
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- Nothing was around you, you didn't do anything?
- Mm-mm.
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- Were you out just prior to that, like in the yard?
- Mm-mm. No.
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So you think whatever's here
is trying to get to you?
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I do, yeah. I feel like that.
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[Amy] I'm getting
two living females
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who've had really hardcore
experiences with this thing.
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Then I'm getting somebody else being touched
by it. I just saw somebody, a female in bed,
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it's dark and it's like pulling
down or pulling off the covers.
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But she can feel like
something on her,
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you know, like feeling it on
her arm, her back, her side.
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That gives them that sense
of fear and panic immediately.
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I would say that the living are feeling
very scared when this is happening.
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That's scary [bleep] weird,
I gotta say it's creepy.
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So, Jaylynn, I was talking to Mom and
she's worried about you and your sister.
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- Yeah.
- She feels that whatever's here is targeting you guys.
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Yeah, a lot.
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- Yeah, so you agree with that?
- Yes.
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So as far as your experiences
go, what's been going on with you?
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- I have nightmares sometimes.
- So what kind of nightmares are you having?
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Family members die sometimes or bad things
are happening in the family or the house.
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- So, what else is going on?
- I've woken up with bruises before.
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- Okay, where?
- On my face, like a line of them.
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I actually have some pictures.
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These are... odd-looking...
bruises.
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- Do you have any health issues?
- No.
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Is there anything that might've
caused it, did you have anything...
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a bracelet on or anything
that had something on it?
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No, I don't wear bracelets. Yeah, and
the bed is not next to a wall or anything.
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- Your sister gets scratches.
- Mm-hm.
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- You're getting bruises, I mean...
- Mm-hm. Yeah.
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- That's not a good thing.
- No.
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This alien, it seems to really
be interested in this person.
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I'm wondering if this person has felt
like they've been lifted out of the bed
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to some extent. I literally feel like they're
waking up and falling back into the bed.
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Honestly, I felt like
it wants to take them.
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- Just through this door or whatever?
- Yeah.
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I feel like
it wants to take them.
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[Steve] We've done a bunchof investigations in Arizona
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so I reached out to some of my contacts
here. One of them, a local historian,
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says one of the original owners of Sherri
and Matt's property was a huge success,
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until scandal and illness
took him down.
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[Steve] Marshall, thanks for
helping me out in this case.
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Now, you mentioned on the phone that the
original owner of my client's property was
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pretty important around here,
what do you mean by that?
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- Yeah, so Michael Brixton Morrison grew up in Texas.
- Okay.
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- But he always had this dream of working in law enforcement.
- Oh, okay.
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So at the age of 21 he winds up
getting a job at the Yuma Prison.
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Which is round the border in
Arizona. He is the one down here.
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- Okay, the guy without the hat.
- Yes.
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- How did it go for him when he got there?
- So he gets there
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and it's completely in disarray.
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I mean, there's not
enough staff, it's mismanaged.
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And so to rectify that, the state
decides that, instead of the Yuma Prison,
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they're going to build a
brand-new prison in Florence.
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- Okay, so this person was a mess basically.
- Exactly.
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And so he winds up with the
opportunity to take the prisoners
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and be in charge of them as
they build the brand-new prison.
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Alright, so his professional life
seems to be going really well.
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- What about his personal life?
- So he meets the love of his life,
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- Ruby Carpenter.
- Okay.
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They have four kids
and then in 1915
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he buys 160 acres and that
includes your client's property.
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Okay, so he meets
the love of his life,
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he was supervising these
prisoners building their own prison,
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when the prison's finished,
though, what does he do?
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So he actually gets a promotion,
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and he becomes the assistant
superintendent and his job
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is to oversee,
basically, the executions.
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Alright, if you got a weak
stomach it's not really a great job.
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Yeah, and so by 1920 he
actually was ready to move on
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so he quit his job at the
prison, they move to Phoenix,
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he actually winds up
becoming a policeman.
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- Okay.
- And he quickly works his way up the rank.
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- And becomes a police chief.
- Really?
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Alright, so this guy, every job
he takes seems to be rising star.
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Until the mayor basically says he's
charged with irregularities on the force.
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So he's forced to resign.
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- So what happened after that?
- So pretty much his life was over.
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- I mean two years later, in July of 1938...
- Okay.
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...he goes in the hospital for
symptoms of appendicitis, they operate,
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discover that his appendix has
burst and infection is all throughout.
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And so after 13 excruciating days of
being in the hospital, he passes away.
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- And here is his death certificate.
- Okay, so this guy suffered.
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- Yeah.
- He was 51 years old.
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I mean, this poor guy.
It's a miserable way to go.
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[Amy] This big guy who gives people
nightmares is following me everywhere.
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He was...
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involved with cars and horses
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and drugs and guns.
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He was really bad
and he didn't move on
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because he didn't want to, so
he just stays here and causes hell.
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I see a bunch of guys dead and
they have shovels in their hands.
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And the weird thing was
they were left to rot.
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So the earth now is like just filled
with like their decomposed bodies.
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And there's like one trying to climb
the fence but not doing a great job of it.
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Like if somebody's grabbing
him and pulling him back.
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- Do they seem to have any kind of intent?
- To me the feeling is like
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getting away and trying
to get over here.
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Lot of fear here, like they're
feeling... fear.
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They are scared.
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[Steve] So far I have a motherand her two daughters
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being terrorized
by the paranormal
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on a property once owned by a man
who oversaw executions at a nearby prison.
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But I wanna see
if there's anything else.
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Searching through old records,
I find a deadly house fire
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just 4000 feet from
Sherri and Matt's house.
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I'm heading over to meet a local journalist
who says this tragedy is heartbreaking,
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and worst of all,
it could have been avoided.
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[Steve] So, Rofida, I
appreciate you meeting with me.
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It sounded like a real brutal
case, I mean, what did you find out?
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[Rofida] It is a very brutal story
and it began on November 5th 1974.
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When Woodman Moore
and his wife Juanita
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went out for the evening,
leaving four children home alone.
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- Were they all their kids?
- No, so there was Gary who was ten,
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Elizabeth who was seven,
Brian who was six,
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- and those were their three kids.
- Okay.
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And then they had a grandson by
the name of John who was three.
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Alright, so let me get this straight,
they left a ten-year-old home
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- in charge of these three other kids?
- Mm-hm.
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So these kids are home alone,
what the hell happened?
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So after the parents left the house at
about 7:30pm the house goes up in flames.
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Gary, who is the oldest, he
manages to jump out of a window
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and run to the neighbors
to seek help.
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- So, what happened?
- So, firefighters arrived on scene,
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but unfortunately the whole
house was engulfed in flames.
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Tragically the three other
children died.
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Okay, so something this tragic,
they had to have an investigation,
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- I assume, right?
- Mm-hm. Yes. There was an investigation
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and from it they determined
that the fire started
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when Elizabeth went into the
living room to turn off a space heater.
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And her sweater got caught
in the space heater
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and the lint from the sweater
actually sparked the fire
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and took the whole house with
it. Here's an article on the fire.
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- What a shame. I'm sure they did autopsies, right?
- Mm-hm. They did.
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The causes of death for all
three were smoke inhalation.
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Do we have any idea what happened
with the parents after this happened?
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Juanita and Woodman,
they stayed in the area.
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But unfortunately they were
never the same after this incident.
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- I couldn't imagine the guilt that these parents had.
- Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
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[Amy] So I'm gettinglike a young male living
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and this is like residual
of him like freaking out.
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And I'm seeing the alien thing near
this kid who is yelling and screaming.
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There's an electrical charge, there's like a
charge to the air when this thing is around
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and it is affecting
like electricity.
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00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:33,718
I don't know if light bulbs are exploding
but they're dying, batteries are draining
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like so if there's a fire
alarm it'll start, you know...
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you know, they change batteries
and it's making that noise.
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I don't know what he's yelling
about, I feel like he's scared.
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You know I think it's dangerous,
like he's playing with fire.
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[sighs deeply]
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[Steve] I just got a callfrom a former US Marshall.
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He says he found a pretty wild story about
a guy who seemed to get away with murder
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near my client's property, but in
the end he payed the ultimate price.
354
00:23:33,912 --> 00:23:36,380
Well, Mo, thanks for helping
me out with this case.
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00:23:36,415 --> 00:23:40,151
So, on the phone you said it was a
pretty bad homicide, kind of brutal.
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- What do we know about the victim?
- Petra Martinez was
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- 14 or 15 when she married Alex Rivera.
- Okay.
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- They had four children, between the two of them.
- Okay.
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1961...
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he dies,
from perigastric issues.
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00:23:57,369 --> 00:23:59,904
- So basically stomach problems.
- Yeah.
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00:23:59,938 --> 00:24:02,072
- How old was she when he died?
- She was 20.
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00:24:02,107 --> 00:24:06,744
Alright, so this is already a sad story
for this woman, what happens after this?
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So in the next couple of years
she starts a relationship
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with a guy by the name
of James McGuffey.
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00:24:12,784 --> 00:24:14,819
- Okay.
- And the two of them have a child.
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00:24:14,853 --> 00:24:19,790
1966, James is ordered to
pay $30 a month in child support,
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00:24:19,825 --> 00:24:21,859
it's about $240
in today's numbers.
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00:24:21,893 --> 00:24:26,597
- Apparently their relationship wasn't that great.
- Apparently not.
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00:24:26,631 --> 00:24:30,601
Alright, so I know she winds up
dead from a homicide, what happened?
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- So on June 10th, 1966...
- Okay.
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...the two of them, James and
Petra, are seen leaving a bar
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about five o'clock
in the afternoon.
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Five hours later they discover
her naked and dead in the bathtub.
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00:24:43,682 --> 00:24:46,016
You know how far she was found
from the house I'm investigating?
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00:24:46,051 --> 00:24:50,821
This took place about a mile and
a half from your client's property.
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00:24:50,856 --> 00:24:52,857
What about the autopsy,
what did that show?
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Official cause from the
autopsy was she was strangled.
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00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,562
So I gotta think at this point they're
gonna look at James for this homicide.
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Nine days later, June 19th,
they hook him up for the murder.
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00:25:02,734 --> 00:25:08,305
Okay, so did he confess? Did
they have evidence, what's the story?
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00:25:08,340 --> 00:25:10,407
It was all circumstantial.
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00:25:10,442 --> 00:25:14,245
They didn't have enough on him
to hold him, they kicked him loose.
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00:25:14,279 --> 00:25:16,981
More than likely this guy got away with
murder. What happens with him after that?
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00:25:17,015 --> 00:25:21,785
Following year... James is
serving a sentence for assault
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on another woman,
they found in a ditch.
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00:25:23,989 --> 00:25:30,194
November 1st, 1967, they found
him in a jail cell, he hung himself.
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00:25:32,030 --> 00:25:34,999
Alright, so this guy was a real [bleep]
and he did us a favor by killing himself
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00:25:35,033 --> 00:25:40,304
but now we got... six victims.
We got Petra and the five kids.
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00:25:40,338 --> 00:25:42,039
- Yeah.
- It's a shame.
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[Amy] I got... a severe headache, it
literally feels like somebody has their hand
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on the back of my neck and
they're just squeezing it really hard
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00:25:55,220 --> 00:25:59,256
and it feels like
a male's hand. [clears throat]
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I did get a deceased female.
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00:26:02,827 --> 00:26:08,065
I feel like someone possibly
had head and neck trauma
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00:26:08,500 --> 00:26:10,067
from an attack.
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00:26:11,202 --> 00:26:15,739
The male who killed her
carries her dead body around.
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00:26:15,774 --> 00:26:17,841
Any idea why he'd be
carrying her around like this?
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00:26:17,876 --> 00:26:24,682
He just liked how she ended up,
physically... after he murdered her.
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00:26:24,716 --> 00:26:28,586
And so it's kind of like a
trophy that he carries with him.
401
00:26:28,620 --> 00:26:32,189
Definitely killed others
round here.
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00:26:41,066 --> 00:26:46,503
I saw a lot of disturbing things on my
walk, but two have me very concerned.
403
00:26:46,538 --> 00:26:51,942
First, the big guy. His face
shape was kind of wider.
404
00:26:52,344 --> 00:26:54,645
More squared.
405
00:26:54,679 --> 00:27:00,250
Late 40s, early 50s and he was
big, I mean pushing 300 pounds.
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00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:08,392
So the nose had like I think pock
marks or something like that on it.
407
00:27:11,029 --> 00:27:15,766
Next I described the alien that's
hovering over a living person.
408
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:21,338
There was kind of this weird
doorway and then this thing came
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00:27:21,373 --> 00:27:25,609
through it, it looked like somebody
was wearing a black sheet.
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00:27:25,644 --> 00:27:31,982
In the bed, there's an older
woman being repeatedly bothered.
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00:27:35,620 --> 00:27:37,955
Amy, is this what you saw?
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00:27:38,523 --> 00:27:40,424
Yes, that's what I saw.
413
00:28:00,412 --> 00:28:03,047
[Steve] Now that Amy and I
have completed our investigations
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we're ready to reveal our findings to each
other and our clients for the first time.
415
00:28:08,153 --> 00:28:13,123
So, guys, I'd like you to meet Amy. She's
gonna be doing the reveal from a separate room
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00:28:13,158 --> 00:28:16,727
so she can focus on your case
and the dead without any distractions.
417
00:28:16,761 --> 00:28:18,796
Amy, meet Sherri and her
husband Matt.
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00:28:18,830 --> 00:28:22,833
Now, they live here with
their two teenage daughters.
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00:28:23,635 --> 00:28:27,404
In the middle is Jaylynn,
who is 17,
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00:28:27,439 --> 00:28:30,641
and on the left with the
glasses is Emma, who's 15.
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00:28:30,675 --> 00:28:32,609
These guys moved here about
a year ago
422
00:28:32,644 --> 00:28:34,478
and this was supposed
to be their dream house.
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00:28:34,512 --> 00:28:37,047
As you can imagine,
things are really bad here
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00:28:37,082 --> 00:28:39,450
and Sherri doesn't think
it's safe for anyone.
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00:28:39,484 --> 00:28:41,652
That's why they called us in.
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00:28:41,686 --> 00:28:45,989
So unless Amy's got some questions for
you guys, she'll tell us about her walk.
427
00:28:47,759 --> 00:28:53,263
I encountered a very large
man who died some time ago.
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00:28:53,298 --> 00:28:59,737
He has been confined to the
darkness or to the shadows he says.
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00:28:59,771 --> 00:29:06,009
He decided not to move on
because he
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00:29:06,044 --> 00:29:11,582
would prefer to stay and basically
just cause and create havoc.
431
00:29:11,616 --> 00:29:18,655
One of the ways that he does this
is by controlling people's dreams.
432
00:29:18,690 --> 00:29:23,694
He's able to enter them and
manipulate the dreams themselves.
433
00:29:23,728 --> 00:29:26,897
Now, Amy said he likes
to be in the shadows.
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00:29:26,931 --> 00:29:30,134
- Sherri and the girls have all seen shadows.
- Dark, thick shadow.
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00:29:30,168 --> 00:29:35,038
You could see the head, the shoulder,
see the arms go down, but he is tall.
436
00:29:35,073 --> 00:29:39,143
So, Amy, something that never
happens when I'm around happened.
437
00:29:39,177 --> 00:29:41,612
When I was upstairs talking
with Sherri in the master bedroom,
438
00:29:41,646 --> 00:29:44,148
she saw a shadow figure
behind me.
439
00:29:45,784 --> 00:29:47,951
- My gosh, I'm sorry.
- Why, what's the matter?
440
00:29:47,986 --> 00:29:53,524
- I saw something in there flop. I'm sorry.
- What'd you see?
441
00:29:53,558 --> 00:29:56,493
- A shadow.
- Just now?
442
00:29:56,528 --> 00:29:59,496
Yeah, when I looked past you
I could see it.
443
00:29:59,531 --> 00:30:01,999
So I checked and I couldn't
find anything causing a shadow
444
00:30:02,033 --> 00:30:05,169
but I can tell you, I know
people, I read them really well.
445
00:30:05,203 --> 00:30:11,675
There's no way she was faking the reaction
that she had when she saw this thing.
446
00:30:11,709 --> 00:30:14,789
I felt like it was trying to
intimidate me, like it...
447
00:30:14,813 --> 00:30:19,516
- wasn't gonna leave, it was gonna stay around.
- That makes sense.
448
00:30:19,551 --> 00:30:20,584
The other thing was nightmares.
449
00:30:20,618 --> 00:30:23,854
Jaylynn's dreaming about
people getting murdered.
450
00:30:23,888 --> 00:30:26,156
Emma was dreaming about
people getting taken.
451
00:30:27,559 --> 00:30:29,560
- Interesting.
- Okay.
452
00:30:29,594 --> 00:30:34,832
Another thing that he does
is he likes to amplify
453
00:30:34,866 --> 00:30:39,670
individual's emotions,
specifically negative ones.
454
00:30:39,704 --> 00:30:45,442
So hatred, anger, depression...
things of that nature.
455
00:30:45,476 --> 00:30:47,744
So, Sherri, do me a favor
and tell Amy
456
00:30:47,779 --> 00:30:50,113
how Emma, when she gets angry,
is like a totally different person.
457
00:30:50,148 --> 00:30:55,752
Oh yeah, if she's in her room for any
length of time her whole mood changes.
458
00:30:55,787 --> 00:31:01,825
She's very... She can be mean,
she's angry, frustrated.
459
00:31:01,860 --> 00:31:04,828
- Emma's not the only one that's got anger issues here.
- No.
460
00:31:04,863 --> 00:31:08,332
- Tell Amy about yourself.
- There's days where...
461
00:31:08,366 --> 00:31:13,437
it is really really bad and I don't have
the tolerance for anything or anybody.
462
00:31:13,471 --> 00:31:15,739
- Matt gets the brunt of it.
- And you're pretty understanding about it
463
00:31:15,773 --> 00:31:17,774
cause you feel it's the
paranormal that's doing it.
464
00:31:17,809 --> 00:31:22,546
Yeah, I do my best. I chalk it up to
there's something else that's causing...
465
00:31:22,580 --> 00:31:24,982
- Right.
- ...the majority of these emotions.
466
00:31:25,016 --> 00:31:26,516
Now could this guy
be doing all this?
467
00:31:26,551 --> 00:31:29,586
Yeah, it's all things
that he is capable of.
468
00:31:30,655 --> 00:31:32,856
Did you get anything on this
guy when he was alive?
469
00:31:32,891 --> 00:31:38,795
I did get that he was a big guy,
approximately 6'1", 300 pounds.
470
00:31:38,830 --> 00:31:43,834
He told me that when he was
alive, he was not a good person.
471
00:31:43,868 --> 00:31:50,107
He was mixed up with guns,
drugs, horses in a bad way.
472
00:31:50,141 --> 00:31:54,511
He may be affiliated with
some other males I encountered.
473
00:31:54,545 --> 00:31:59,516
These males had died here,
they were all holding shovels.
474
00:31:59,550 --> 00:32:04,788
And they were just left to rot.
These men were very scared.
475
00:32:04,822 --> 00:32:09,393
And they were trying to run away from something,
they were trying to climb over the fence
476
00:32:09,460 --> 00:32:12,496
but they couldn't
quite make it over.
477
00:32:12,530 --> 00:32:15,065
A lot of the stuff
she's talking about
478
00:32:15,099 --> 00:32:19,670
is making me think of one of the
original owners of the property here.
479
00:32:19,704 --> 00:32:23,941
His name was Michael Morrison. Around
1908 when Morrison was 21 years old,
480
00:32:23,975 --> 00:32:28,679
he started working as a prison
guard in Yuma, Arizona.
481
00:32:28,713 --> 00:32:30,180
But conditions were bad there,
482
00:32:30,214 --> 00:32:35,452
so the state decided to build a
new prison nearby in Florence.
483
00:32:35,486 --> 00:32:39,523
Morrison supervised the inmates who
basically had to build their own prison.
484
00:32:39,557 --> 00:32:41,758
Which involved a lot of
digging with shovels and stuff.
485
00:32:41,793 --> 00:32:44,861
He was eventually promoted
to be assistant superintendent,
486
00:32:44,896 --> 00:32:49,666
which is a big position for a prison,
and he oversaw several executions
487
00:32:49,701 --> 00:32:52,336
which at that time
were all hangings.
488
00:32:52,370 --> 00:32:55,372
1920, he left the prison
and became a cop.
489
00:32:55,406 --> 00:33:00,110
So by the mid thirties he rose to
the top and was made police chief
490
00:33:00,144 --> 00:33:05,716
but there was a huge scandal about him,
corruption, doing whatever he was doing
491
00:33:05,750 --> 00:33:09,786
and he was forced to resign. Now
after this his life was pretty much over.
492
00:33:09,821 --> 00:33:16,059
1938 he went to the hospital for appendicitis,
when they did the operation it burst.
493
00:33:16,094 --> 00:33:20,664
- Oh!
- 13 days later he was dead. He was 51 years old.
494
00:33:20,698 --> 00:33:24,601
Only thing I could find on this
guy was this old picture of him.
495
00:33:24,635 --> 00:33:28,672
He looks burly, I don't know
about 300 but he's a stocky guy.
496
00:33:28,706 --> 00:33:32,476
- Any chance Morrison could be this guy?
- I did have a sketch done
497
00:33:32,510 --> 00:33:35,979
of what I saw
of this individual.
498
00:33:42,453 --> 00:33:44,187
[Steve] Oh, yeah.
499
00:33:46,624 --> 00:33:49,459
You guys, look at this.
500
00:33:49,494 --> 00:33:53,163
- Wow! Yeah.
- See the nose?
501
00:33:53,197 --> 00:33:58,235
You can see the chin and all the
way down even to the rolls in his neck
502
00:33:58,269 --> 00:34:00,937
are very similar.
503
00:34:00,972 --> 00:34:03,440
- Oh, me I've seen a thousand sketches.
- Yeah.
504
00:34:03,474 --> 00:34:05,976
And I can tell you,
they're never really close.
505
00:34:06,010 --> 00:34:10,514
But when you have a distinctive
nose like that, and that chin...
506
00:34:10,548 --> 00:34:12,682
So you're thinking
it could be Morrison?
507
00:34:12,717 --> 00:34:17,287
I mean it seems...
pretty likely.
508
00:34:19,824 --> 00:34:23,527
- [Steve] How did the rest of the walk go?
- [Amy] So now we're gonna talk
509
00:34:23,561 --> 00:34:28,743
about something
that I was not prepared for
510
00:34:28,767 --> 00:34:32,903
and I feel that it's dangerous.
511
00:34:32,937 --> 00:34:38,241
I encountered it in the room,
if you go upstairs and turn left.
512
00:34:38,276 --> 00:34:39,643
So that's Emma's room.
513
00:34:39,677 --> 00:34:43,814
It was right by the closet
in that room
514
00:34:43,848 --> 00:34:48,285
and what I saw was like...
bear with me,
515
00:34:48,319 --> 00:34:51,755
the wall just kind of went away
516
00:34:51,789 --> 00:34:57,961
and then I just saw this guy,
like darkness, stars, all of this
517
00:34:57,995 --> 00:35:04,534
and I felt like it was kind of a
doorway to an alternate dimension.
518
00:35:04,569 --> 00:35:06,636
And what was coming through it
519
00:35:06,671 --> 00:35:12,576
was this very dark shape,
kind of floating.
520
00:35:12,610 --> 00:35:15,011
My feeling was, honestly,
521
00:35:15,046 --> 00:35:21,017
and I can't explain why, is
that it was some type of alien.
522
00:35:22,787 --> 00:35:24,855
- And it was terrifying.
- [Sherri] Huh!
523
00:35:24,889 --> 00:35:27,757
We're talking about frickin'
aliens now, right?
524
00:35:27,792 --> 00:35:31,595
- Now, Sherri, Emma told me she's terrified of her room.
- Mm-hm.
525
00:35:31,629 --> 00:35:33,830
She actually sleeps in the
master bedroom with them,
526
00:35:33,865 --> 00:35:35,966
there's a mattress
they lay down for her.
527
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:40,770
She's just scared, she hates her
closet, her closet light always comes on.
528
00:35:40,805 --> 00:35:43,707
And when I interviewed her
she told me that she felt
529
00:35:43,741 --> 00:35:46,843
- as if something was watching her from the closet.
- Right, right.
530
00:35:46,878 --> 00:35:50,180
- Now, you guys think Emma has abilities.
- I do, yes.
531
00:35:51,616 --> 00:35:55,318
- So why do you feel like she has abilities?
- She was at such a young age
532
00:35:55,353 --> 00:36:00,056
when she started talking about it, that
we figured, okay, it's an imaginary friend.
533
00:36:00,091 --> 00:36:04,528
- Now she's 15 years old, it should be gone by now.
- And still going.
534
00:36:04,562 --> 00:36:07,197
- I actually didn't get abilities off her.
- Okay.
535
00:36:08,566 --> 00:36:10,400
That's very interesting.
536
00:36:10,434 --> 00:36:12,702
So how does this thing
affect the living here?
537
00:36:12,737 --> 00:36:16,907
When it enters a room it does carry
some kind of weird electrical charge.
538
00:36:16,941 --> 00:36:21,645
- It affects lights, batteries, fire alarms.
- So...
539
00:36:21,679 --> 00:36:26,783
This house is just over a year old
and for no apparent reason at all
540
00:36:26,817 --> 00:36:29,753
all the lights in the upstairs
can flicker.
541
00:36:30,721 --> 00:36:35,425
This thing has in fact
made physical contact
542
00:36:35,459 --> 00:36:37,994
with individuals in the home.
543
00:36:38,029 --> 00:36:45,068
What I saw happening was this
thing coming up and touching the arm,
544
00:36:45,102 --> 00:36:50,907
the shoulder, going down
the spine, and it really, to me,
545
00:36:50,942 --> 00:36:55,645
it was almost like a medical
examination that this thing was doing.
546
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:57,614
[Steve] Tell Amy what happened
with Emma.
547
00:36:57,648 --> 00:37:00,984
Both of us just kicking back
on the couch
548
00:37:01,018 --> 00:37:04,454
and she said that her leg
kind of started itching
549
00:37:04,488 --> 00:37:06,690
- Mm-hm.
- And couldn't figure out why
550
00:37:06,724 --> 00:37:09,759
so she lifts up her pant legs
and there's this scratch there
551
00:37:09,794 --> 00:37:15,031
- and it's already bleeding.
- Actually, we got a photo of it here, Amy.
552
00:37:16,500 --> 00:37:22,305
Do me a favor and talk to Amy
about Jaylynn's bruises.
553
00:37:22,340 --> 00:37:24,441
She had bruises
all down her face.
554
00:37:24,475 --> 00:37:26,776
- Her face?
- Her face. They started at the top
555
00:37:26,811 --> 00:37:30,413
where her forehead is, and literally came...
it was like dots, they just came around
556
00:37:30,448 --> 00:37:36,019
- all the way around to her chin. It was very strange.
- Here's the photos, here.
557
00:37:36,053 --> 00:37:39,422
- And she woke up with these?
- Yeah, I was like, "Where'd those come from?"
558
00:37:39,457 --> 00:37:40,757
She's like, "I don't know."
559
00:37:40,791 --> 00:37:42,826
Now, you said this thing's
from another dimension.
560
00:37:42,860 --> 00:37:45,729
- I mean, what the hell would it look like?
- I actually had a sketch done
561
00:37:45,763 --> 00:37:48,031
of what I perceived.
562
00:37:53,571 --> 00:37:55,272
This looks like Emma's room.
563
00:37:56,340 --> 00:37:58,041
This might upset you.
564
00:38:01,112 --> 00:38:02,345
Wow!
565
00:38:05,383 --> 00:38:07,917
This is what's watching her?
566
00:38:07,952 --> 00:38:12,922
I really don't even know what to
say about that, that's heartbreaking.
567
00:38:12,957 --> 00:38:19,095
- And as a father, it's enough to piss you off.
- I'm just shocked.
568
00:38:20,665 --> 00:38:26,403
I'm concerned. And the thing I
was extremely concerned about
569
00:38:26,437 --> 00:38:29,606
was that this alien
was very much
570
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:33,710
discussing its want to take...
to take...
571
00:38:34,545 --> 00:38:38,715
this female or now females...
with it.
572
00:38:38,749 --> 00:38:43,687
It's possible you guys have
been abducted together.
573
00:38:43,721 --> 00:38:47,424
- What the hell am I gonna do?
- I knew there was something here and I knew there was
574
00:38:47,458 --> 00:38:48,658
something wrong
with Emma's room,
575
00:38:48,693 --> 00:38:51,561
like I know there's something
wrong with that room.
576
00:38:51,595 --> 00:38:55,332
But I didn't... I didn't
expect that.
577
00:39:11,782 --> 00:39:14,884
So you guys called us in
because you thought
578
00:39:14,919 --> 00:39:17,020
something was threatening
your family, especially Emma.
579
00:39:17,054 --> 00:39:22,192
I bet in a million years you never thought
it was some entity from another dimension.
580
00:39:22,226 --> 00:39:25,962
Now we have to answer the big question, is
there any way you can stay here and fight
581
00:39:25,996 --> 00:39:29,766
what you have in the house? Or
is it time to get the hell outta here?
582
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,369
For that answer I'm gonna
turn it over to Amy.
583
00:39:37,308 --> 00:39:39,442
What I would like for you to do
584
00:39:39,477 --> 00:39:44,581
is to find a very masculine
585
00:39:44,615 --> 00:39:50,420
male medium.
He will be able to get
586
00:39:50,454 --> 00:39:53,723
this guy out of your house.
587
00:39:53,758 --> 00:39:58,228
Which is gonna stop them from having
these bad dreams, the anxiety, the anger
588
00:39:58,262 --> 00:40:00,230
- and all that crap?
- Yes.
589
00:40:01,799 --> 00:40:04,134
- So that's one less thing...
- Right, right.
590
00:40:04,168 --> 00:40:06,469
- ...they gotta worry about.
- That's good.
591
00:40:06,504 --> 00:40:08,805
But we still have to deal
with the biggest issue:
592
00:40:08,839 --> 00:40:13,643
The alien.
My suggestion is to stay here.
593
00:40:13,677 --> 00:40:19,349
Because you can't escape
from the alien.
594
00:40:20,785 --> 00:40:24,788
I believe that this has been
with you for quite some time
595
00:40:24,822 --> 00:40:28,925
and it will go with you
wherever you go.
596
00:40:28,959 --> 00:40:33,763
- So, they're just gonna keep getting abducted?
- Yes.
597
00:40:33,798 --> 00:40:39,803
[Amy] So that's why I suggest educating
yourselves about this type of phenomena.
598
00:40:39,837 --> 00:40:44,974
Finding a local
group of experiencers.
599
00:40:45,009 --> 00:40:47,911
UFO groups,
things of that nature.
600
00:40:47,945 --> 00:40:51,448
So that you can get some
guidance there and some help there
601
00:40:51,482 --> 00:40:55,685
in dealing with this phenomenon.
602
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:57,554
How you feel about
everything you heard tonight,
603
00:40:57,588 --> 00:40:59,589
I mean what's going
through your mind?
604
00:40:59,623 --> 00:41:05,195
Yeah, we're definitely gonna
do whatever it takes to do
605
00:41:05,229 --> 00:41:10,500
- at least as much as we can.
- I'm gonna start doing research, yeah. Definitely.
606
00:41:10,534 --> 00:41:14,504
So as far as the paranormal side of things,
are you gonna take Amy's advice to do that?
607
00:41:14,538 --> 00:41:15,839
- Get this male medium?
- Oh, yeah.
608
00:41:15,873 --> 00:41:19,576
- Absolutely. That'll make things a lot better.
- Oh, yeah.
609
00:41:19,610 --> 00:41:23,213
Appreciate what you've done.
I can't thank you enough.
610
00:41:24,748 --> 00:41:27,617
[Amy] I wish I had better news
for Matt and Sherri,
611
00:41:27,651 --> 00:41:30,854
but unfortunately they won't
be able to get rid of the aliens.
612
00:41:30,888 --> 00:41:34,390
They will just have to learn
how to adapt and live with them.
613
00:41:34,425 --> 00:41:36,659
But if they bring in a medium
to get rid of the big guy,
614
00:41:36,694 --> 00:41:40,396
the activity in the house will
go down considerably.
615
00:41:40,431 --> 00:41:42,799
And they should be able
to face these challenges
616
00:41:42,833 --> 00:41:46,102
in a much more peaceful
and calm environment.
617
00:41:46,152 --> 00:41:50,702
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