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Previously onBull...
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[buzzer sounds]Arthur.
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Wasn't sure you'd remember me
after 12 years.
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Have you got any new evidence?How about a signed confession?
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BULL:
We need these commissioners
to grant parole
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to a guy who's been
convicted of double murder.
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My name is Leo Craddick,
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and I'm Arthur Craddick's son.
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12 years of prison is enough
to break most anyone's soul.
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Please extend
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this opportunity to him.
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[crying]
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LEO:
Hey, Detective Kaminsky,
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cops who place innocent people
behind bars
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need to face consequences.
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This young man
just threatened me.
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[siren wails]
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Leonard Craddick,
you are under arrest
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for the murder of
Detective Joseph Kaminsky.
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Anything you say...Kaminsky's dead.
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[wind whistling,
indistinct P.A. announcement]
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You gonna miss it?
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[crows cawing]
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Not even a little.
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Bus usually comes
on the hour.
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You might have
to wait a bit.
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My son's picking me up.
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Guard inside just
texted him for me.
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Got it all planned out.
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Gonna stop at the first
open pizza place we see.
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Good luck, Craddick.
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[sighs]
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CHUNK:
Says here
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Kaminsky was parked
across the street
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from a 24-hour bodega
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when he was shot in
his car at close range.
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CCTV cam captured a
suspect fleeing the scene
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who roughly matches
Leo's height and weight.
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I would think a quarter
of the world's population
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roughly matches
Leo's height and weight.
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Oh, boy.
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Here's something.
According to this,
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a palm print was recovered from
the roof of the victim's car.
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They're saying it's
a match to Leo's.
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Palm print.
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A conscientious grad student
spends years
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working with his inmate father,
pouring over court documents,
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filing motions,
tracking down witnesses,
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and they finally
get their day in court,
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and suddenly, murder is the only
way they can get what they want.
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I don't care what they say
they found on that guy's car.
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I don't buy it.
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[horn toots]
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Hey, stranger, need a lift?
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Mr. Colón.
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Mr. Craddick.
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I can't.
Uh, I'm waiting for Leo.
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He should be along
any minute.
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Actually, uh, Leo
has been detained.
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[buzzer sounds]
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Hey, Leo.
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[sighs]Look, I'm trying every
trick in the book
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to get you out of here, but you
are accused of killing a cop,
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so the likelihood...I know.
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Okay.
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By the way, we spoke
with your landlord.
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Told him
your father had been exonerated,
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and he said he was fine with
letting your dad stay there.
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Benny's picking him up
at prison right now.
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Thank you.
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CHUNK:
Mr. Craddick,
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my name's Chester Palmer.
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I'm an attorney in
Dr. Bull's office.
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He and I will be
spearheading your case.
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And what ismy case?
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On what basis am I being
accused of this crime?
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What in the world
did I have to gain
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by killing a police detective?BULL:Well,
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Leo, it's only
the morning after.
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We don't have a lot of answers.
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Oh. I'm sorry.
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Am I being impatient
with the wheels of justice?
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I certainly didn't mean
to be rude.
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It's only my freedom.
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It's only my life.
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I would like to know.
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Why am I here?
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You want to know the truth?
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You look the part.
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Yeah?
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Well, so do you.
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Kind of.Yeah. Not really.
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I aged out of that angry
young Black man category
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a long time ago, but you--
you fit the profile perfectly.
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Which is why the
most important thing
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that we have to do
right now is remind them
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that you are not that person.
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You are an educated,
socially-engaged young citizen.
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And that this is an incredible
miscarriage of justice.
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So we're gonna need you
to take it on good faith
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that we're doing everything
that we can as fast as we can.
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Don't have much choice, do I?
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BULL:
Let's start at
the beginning.
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They know exactly what time
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that detective was shot--
11:19 p.m.
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So we need to know-- where were
you two nights ago at 11:19?
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[sighs]
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I was at home. Asleep.
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Is there anyone
who can verify that?
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Verify that I was asleep?Mm.
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No. I live alone.
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So you don't have an alibi?
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Guess not.
Didn't know I'd be needing one.
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You know they found
your handprint
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on Detective Kaminsky's car.
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Well... there you go.
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That's simply not possible.
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Unless the cops planted it,
which I'm sure they did.
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Okay, well, we'll continue
to investigate that possibility.
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We'll take nothing for granted,
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but why don't we give
some thought as to
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how that print could have
legitimately gotten there?
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Hey, man, I didn't even know
the man had a car.
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I wouldn't know Kaminsky's car
if it ran over me.
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Okay, but you were seen verbally
accosting him at the courthouse.
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[sighs]
He locked up an innocent man.
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He robbed me of my father
for over 12 years.
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We're just trying
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to give you an idea
of what you're up against here.
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But I didn't do it.
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Again, why would I do it?
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How does it help me?
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He's a cop, and you're a man
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who's shown anger
towards the cops
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for reasons that make
perfect sense to the two of us.
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But that anger
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in a courtroom
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is gonna play right into
the district attorney's hands.
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BULL:Let's get down
to it here.
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Leo, you ever attend
any demonstrations,
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rallies, protests that would
be considered anti-police?
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What do you think?
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You ever speak
at any of these rallies?
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Lead any of these rallies?I certainly have.
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And would the D.A.'s office
recognize the name
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of any of these groups
that you were associated with?
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[inhales sharply]
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You ever heard
of Black Lives Matter?
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Say the name.
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There is no fear in that name.
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It is a simple statement
of fact.
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Black... Lives... Matter.
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No one is disagreeing with you.
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We're just trying to figure out
how to defend you.
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♪
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Curfew's 10:00 p.m.
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Failure to make curfew,
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failure of any random
drug screening,
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failure to secure employment
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and/or failure
to notify of any change
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of employment or residence,
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and your parole is subject
to revocation.
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Understood?Yes, ma'am, I understand.
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Officer Schiraldi, my client
has a special request.
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Now, his son is currently
being held at Rikers,
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and we were hoping
that you would be willing
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to authorize such a visit.
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I'm sorry,
but that is not possible.
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Well, you should know
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that A.D.A. Glover
has filed a motion
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to vacate the conviction
against my client,
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which we are very confident
will be granted.
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And since my client has been
barred from the courtroom
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due to COVID restrictions,
we were hoping
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that you would make
an exception.
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I understand
you have a job to do,
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but I have been away
from my son for over 12 years,
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and now he needs me.
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I understand.
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But in my experience,
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allowing felons to visit prisons
is just asking for trouble.
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Now, once you're exonerated,
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you are free to do
what you want.
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But in the meantime, I'm sorry,
the answer is still no.
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Urine sample.
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I need to walk him
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down to the bathroom.
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You mind showing us where it is?
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JUDGE:
Mr. Palmer, you have
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a pretrial motion
you'd like the court to hear
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with regard to some
of the prosecution's evidence?
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Yes, Your Honor.
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I'm requesting permission
to exclude any mention
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of my client's involvement
with Black Lives Matter
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or photographic evidence
of affiliation with same.
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With the court's
permission,
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we'd like to direct
your attention to the monitors
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that are at the front
of the courtroom.
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Now, I would like to make note
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that investigations
after the fact proved
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that the police car in
this photo was set on fire
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by people who are not
associated with my client
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or the
Black Lives Matter movement.
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Nonetheless,
the prosecution would like
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to present this photo
solely with the purpose
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of inflaming the jury.
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Now, given the intense
media coverage
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of this trial
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and the current climate
with regards to law enforcement,
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inclusion of photos like these
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would only serve
to paint a misleading
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and unduly prejudicial portrait
of my client.
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I don't think
it's prejudicial at all.
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The defendant has a lengthy
and well-documented history
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of anti-police sentiment
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masquerading
as protected speech.
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CHUNK: Your Honor,
the A.D.A. is clearly
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mistaken in this regard.
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Black Lives Matter is not
opposed to the police.
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Black Lives Matter is opposed
to police killing Black people.
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And the prosecution is trying
to paint this organization
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and, by extension,
my client,
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as being extremist
and anti-law enforcement.
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All for the crime
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of simply affirming the value
of Black life.
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All right, Mr. Palmer.
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Your impassioned entreaty
has not fallen on deaf ears.
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I agree.
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I find that the mention
of Mr. Craddick's involvement
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in Black Lives Matter
is irrelevant
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and unduly prejudicial,
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and I'm granting your motion.
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There are to be no references
to Black Lives Matter
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or the defendant's
association therewith.
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Is that clear?
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Yes, Your Honor.
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That was too easy.
Why don't I trust it?
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Because you're Jason Bull,
super smart cynic.
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You've been talking
to my much better half.
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CHUNK:
Your Honor, we have
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a second motion
for the court's consideration.
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I ask that we exclude
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any reference to the defendant's
prior conviction
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for criminal mischief.
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My client was one
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of over 200 people arrested
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after a Black Lives Matter
demonstration became overrun
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with people not associated
with his group,
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but who were there
solely for purpose
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of looting and
vandalizing.
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He couldn't afford counsel,
he spent a night in jail.
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For these spurious charges
to be used against him--
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it seems unjust and unfair,
Your Honor.
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Ms. Olson, care to respond?
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Your Honor,
as Mr. Palmer is well aware,
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if his client chooses to take
the stand in his own defense,
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he can be cross-examined
about prior crimes
258
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that bear on his credibility.
259
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To arbitrarily deny me
the opportunity
260
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to share this conviction
with the jury seems...
261
00:11:22,290 --> 00:11:23,552
How did you put it?
262
00:11:23,595 --> 00:11:25,380
Unjust and unfair?
263
00:11:25,423 --> 00:11:26,903
And it is.
264
00:11:26,947 --> 00:11:28,905
To the state, which believes
Mr. Craddick is guilty
265
00:11:28,949 --> 00:11:31,603
of murdering a police officer
in cold blood.
266
00:11:31,647 --> 00:11:33,997
And I would also point out
to the court,
267
00:11:34,041 --> 00:11:36,608
violence against police officers
seems to be
268
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a common feature
of these rallies.
269
00:11:39,481 --> 00:11:41,831
And whether that violence
is instigated
270
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by the sponsoring organization
271
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or outsiders
who seize the opportunity
272
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to indulge in mayhem
is beside the point.
273
00:11:48,795 --> 00:11:51,014
The point-- the only point--
274
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is that Mr. Craddick
has been arrested and convicted
275
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in the past.
276
00:11:55,105 --> 00:11:57,194
And that is something that
the jury has a right to know.
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Told ya.
278
00:11:58,805 --> 00:12:00,981
The Lord giveth
and the Lord taketh way.
279
00:12:01,024 --> 00:12:04,332
Come on, no one's
taken away anything yet.
280
00:12:05,376 --> 00:12:09,293
While I still believe
Mr. Craddick's association
281
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with Black Lives Matter
should remain out of bounds,
282
00:12:13,036 --> 00:12:15,560
if he does choose
to take the stand
283
00:12:15,604 --> 00:12:16,910
in his own defense
284
00:12:16,953 --> 00:12:20,478
and personally asserts
his innocence,
285
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I believe...
286
00:12:23,003 --> 00:12:25,832
his criminal history
should be admissible
287
00:12:25,875 --> 00:12:27,616
to impeach his credibility.
288
00:12:27,659 --> 00:12:29,487
Told ya.
289
00:12:29,531 --> 00:12:31,011
CHUNK:
But, Your Honor,
290
00:12:31,054 --> 00:12:33,448
you're essentially taking away
his ability to testify
291
00:12:33,491 --> 00:12:34,971
on his own behalf.
292
00:12:35,015 --> 00:12:37,713
I've issued my ruling,
Mr. Palmer.
293
00:12:37,757 --> 00:12:39,889
If Mr. Craddick testifies,
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the arrest is admissible.
295
00:12:43,980 --> 00:12:45,721
[sighs]
296
00:12:48,158 --> 00:12:49,986
Just got off the phone
with Bull.
297
00:12:50,030 --> 00:12:51,771
He was curious
what kind of progress
298
00:12:51,814 --> 00:12:53,947
you were making.Actually, I was just staring
299
00:12:53,990 --> 00:12:56,036
at Detective Kaminsky's
phone bill as we speak.
300
00:12:56,079 --> 00:12:58,516
For what it's worth, in the
weeks leading up to his murder,
301
00:12:58,560 --> 00:12:59,953
he received dozens of calls
302
00:12:59,996 --> 00:13:01,781
from a host
of different burner phones.
303
00:13:01,824 --> 00:13:03,913
Well, that sounds promising.
304
00:13:03,957 --> 00:13:06,524
Maybe. Danny told me
when she was in the NYPD
305
00:13:06,568 --> 00:13:07,830
they'd give out burner phones
306
00:13:07,874 --> 00:13:09,179
to all
the confidential informants.
307
00:13:09,223 --> 00:13:11,051
Gave them out like Handi Wipes,
she said.
308
00:13:11,094 --> 00:13:13,357
Veteran cop like Kaminsky,
he probably had dozens
309
00:13:13,401 --> 00:13:15,011
of confidential informants.
310
00:13:15,055 --> 00:13:16,665
The thing is,
I don't know
311
00:13:16,708 --> 00:13:18,362
who's on the other
end of these calls.
312
00:13:18,406 --> 00:13:21,626
I can't see any of the texts.
I can't hear any of the calls.
313
00:13:21,670 --> 00:13:23,846
I can't tell any of that
from a bill.
314
00:13:23,890 --> 00:13:25,674
Well, it's a start.
My guess is
315
00:13:25,717 --> 00:13:27,850
tomorrow we will file
a motion for discovery
316
00:13:27,894 --> 00:13:29,721
so that we can get access
to the physical phone.
317
00:13:29,765 --> 00:13:31,462
That way,
we can read any texts,
318
00:13:31,506 --> 00:13:32,812
listen to any voice mails.
319
00:13:32,855 --> 00:13:34,204
And in the meantime,
320
00:13:34,248 --> 00:13:36,206
Danny'll keep trying
to track these burners,
321
00:13:36,250 --> 00:13:38,034
see if we can find out
who he gave them to.
322
00:13:38,078 --> 00:13:40,732
There's got to be
a record of it somewhere.
323
00:13:40,776 --> 00:13:42,212
[horn honks in distance]
324
00:13:42,256 --> 00:13:44,345
You want to talk juries?BULL:
Sure.
325
00:13:44,388 --> 00:13:47,522
I think this morning's gonna be
all about belief perseverance.
326
00:13:47,565 --> 00:13:50,003
Belief perseverance?
327
00:13:50,046 --> 00:13:52,222
People who insist on holding on
to something they believe in
328
00:13:52,266 --> 00:13:53,876
even in the face
of new information
329
00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:56,444
that contradicts that belief.
330
00:13:56,487 --> 00:13:58,576
Where I come from, people
just call that "stubborn."
331
00:13:58,620 --> 00:14:00,491
"Stubborn" works, too.
332
00:14:00,535 --> 00:14:05,279
We definitely want to eliminate
or least minimize the stubborn.
333
00:14:06,323 --> 00:14:08,369
The job is gonna be
to convince our jury
334
00:14:08,412 --> 00:14:11,459
that the police investigation
was compromised from the start.
335
00:14:11,502 --> 00:14:13,330
They zeroed right in on Leo.
336
00:14:13,374 --> 00:14:16,029
They barely investigated,
'cause they had their theory.
337
00:14:16,072 --> 00:14:17,769
And they held on to that theory
338
00:14:17,813 --> 00:14:20,990
to the exclusion of any other
information or possibilities.
339
00:14:21,034 --> 00:14:22,818
Now, that's the narrative.
340
00:14:24,776 --> 00:14:26,213
For that argument to stick,
341
00:14:26,256 --> 00:14:28,911
we need jurors whose first
impressions are malleable
342
00:14:28,955 --> 00:14:31,261
to new information,
new evidence.
343
00:14:33,089 --> 00:14:35,309
We need people
who aren't stubborn.
344
00:14:37,093 --> 00:14:39,356
Any hopeless romantics here
today?
345
00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:40,880
Anyone here believe
346
00:14:40,923 --> 00:14:43,056
in love
at first sight?
347
00:14:43,099 --> 00:14:44,318
Oh.
348
00:14:44,361 --> 00:14:45,623
You, ma'am.
349
00:14:45,667 --> 00:14:47,451
Any reason
in particular
350
00:14:47,495 --> 00:14:50,280
you don't believe people
can fall in love at first sight?
351
00:14:50,324 --> 00:14:54,241
My first date with
my now husband was a disaster.
352
00:14:54,284 --> 00:14:56,330
First, he went
to the wrong restaurant,
353
00:14:56,373 --> 00:14:58,941
so he was 20 minutes late.
354
00:14:58,985 --> 00:15:00,812
And when he finally got there,
he was so nervous,
355
00:15:00,856 --> 00:15:03,554
he dumped a glass of wine
on my favorite blouse.
356
00:15:03,598 --> 00:15:04,947
And then, to top it off,
357
00:15:04,991 --> 00:15:07,645
he left his wallet in the cab,
358
00:15:07,689 --> 00:15:09,560
so I had to pay for dinner.Oh.
359
00:15:09,604 --> 00:15:10,866
[chuckles]
360
00:15:10,910 --> 00:15:13,173
But he made me laugh,
361
00:15:13,216 --> 00:15:15,175
so I gave him another chance.
362
00:15:15,218 --> 00:15:16,959
A few more chances, actually.
363
00:15:17,003 --> 00:15:19,483
And all that's
to say is that,
364
00:15:19,527 --> 00:15:21,268
even when you think you know,
365
00:15:21,311 --> 00:15:22,573
you don't know.
366
00:15:22,617 --> 00:15:25,489
Lady doesn't go all in
on first impressions.
367
00:15:25,533 --> 00:15:26,534
We like it.
368
00:15:26,577 --> 00:15:27,535
Or don't we?
369
00:15:27,578 --> 00:15:29,145
No, I think we do.
370
00:15:29,189 --> 00:15:31,147
She reads websites from all
sides of the political spectrum,
371
00:15:31,191 --> 00:15:33,497
is registered as an independent
372
00:15:33,541 --> 00:15:35,021
and she and her husband
373
00:15:35,064 --> 00:15:38,198
just celebrated
their 35th anniversary.
374
00:15:38,241 --> 00:15:40,722
From where I'm sitting,
she's our dream juror.
375
00:15:41,723 --> 00:15:44,030
CHUNK:
Juror number 19.
376
00:15:44,073 --> 00:15:46,162
Love at first sight:
you in, you out?
377
00:15:46,206 --> 00:15:48,991
Well, I'm not saying
I don't believe in it.
378
00:15:49,035 --> 00:15:50,688
I mean, I like the idea of it.
379
00:15:50,732 --> 00:15:52,995
Who wouldn't like to live in
a world where you could be sure
380
00:15:53,039 --> 00:15:54,518
just by looking at someone?
381
00:15:54,562 --> 00:15:55,867
But...
382
00:15:55,911 --> 00:15:58,261
it's like she just said,
you never know.
383
00:15:58,305 --> 00:16:00,872
Sounds like someone willing to
hear both sides of an argument.
384
00:16:00,916 --> 00:16:02,352
What are we looking at here,
Marissa?
385
00:16:02,396 --> 00:16:03,571
Willard Goss.
386
00:16:03,614 --> 00:16:05,616
24 years old.
Family owns Goss Uniforms,
387
00:16:05,660 --> 00:16:09,011
an apparel company that provides
clothing and accessories to...
388
00:16:09,055 --> 00:16:11,709
among other organizations,
389
00:16:11,753 --> 00:16:13,015
the NYPD.
390
00:16:13,059 --> 00:16:15,061
Well, that's that, isn't it?
391
00:16:15,844 --> 00:16:17,715
And how
about you, miss?
392
00:16:17,759 --> 00:16:19,717
Love at first sight?
393
00:16:19,761 --> 00:16:21,850
I don't think so.
394
00:16:21,893 --> 00:16:23,417
Care to explain?
395
00:16:23,460 --> 00:16:24,809
Because it's a myth,
396
00:16:24,853 --> 00:16:26,550
a fairy tale.
397
00:16:26,594 --> 00:16:27,899
The advertising agencies,
398
00:16:27,943 --> 00:16:30,250
the greeting card companies,
Hollywood--
399
00:16:30,293 --> 00:16:33,557
it's a tale they tell
to separate you from your money.
400
00:16:34,384 --> 00:16:36,952
Sounds like someone who doesn't
budge once her mind is made up.
401
00:16:36,996 --> 00:16:38,258
You don't know the half of it.
402
00:16:38,301 --> 00:16:40,521
Her social media
is scorched earth.
403
00:16:40,564 --> 00:16:41,957
Movies, music, food--
404
00:16:42,001 --> 00:16:44,220
she's posting 500 words
on why you're wrong.
405
00:16:44,264 --> 00:16:46,222
If this woman doesn't like
something about Leo,
406
00:16:46,266 --> 00:16:48,050
she'll be a nightmare
on the jury.
407
00:16:48,094 --> 00:16:49,399
CHUNK:
We'd like to thank
408
00:16:49,443 --> 00:16:51,488
and excuse juror number 30,
Your Honor.
409
00:16:51,532 --> 00:16:53,012
OLSON:
Your Honor,
410
00:16:53,055 --> 00:16:54,491
before you dismiss this juror,
411
00:16:54,535 --> 00:16:57,059
may we be heard in chambers?
412
00:16:57,103 --> 00:16:59,496
Your Honor, I count
six total jurors
413
00:16:59,540 --> 00:17:01,368
eliminated
by the defense.
414
00:17:01,411 --> 00:17:02,934
All six
are white.
415
00:17:02,978 --> 00:17:04,545
As I'm sure
you're aware,
416
00:17:04,588 --> 00:17:07,983
Batson v. Kentuckyexplicitly
prohibits jury eliminations
417
00:17:08,027 --> 00:17:09,593
based on race.
418
00:17:09,637 --> 00:17:12,422
CHUNK:Your Honor, as the
A.D.A. is well aware,
419
00:17:12,466 --> 00:17:16,252
the Batsonruling was
specifically intended to address
420
00:17:16,296 --> 00:17:19,603
the exclusion of Black people
from serving as jurors.
421
00:17:19,647 --> 00:17:23,216
Yes. When it was originally
issued, that was the case.
422
00:17:23,259 --> 00:17:26,219
But the Supreme Court has since
expanded its ruling on Batson
423
00:17:26,262 --> 00:17:28,960
to ensure nocitizen
is disqualified
424
00:17:29,004 --> 00:17:30,962
from jury service
based on race.
425
00:17:31,006 --> 00:17:32,877
Equal protection,
Your Honor.
426
00:17:32,921 --> 00:17:35,097
BULL:
That's all well
and good, but,
427
00:17:35,141 --> 00:17:37,752
Your Honor, none of these
strikes were discriminatory.
428
00:17:37,795 --> 00:17:41,321
Each and every choice was
based on scientific analysis
429
00:17:41,364 --> 00:17:43,149
and had nothing
whatsoever
430
00:17:43,192 --> 00:17:44,585
to do with race.OLSON:
Really?
431
00:17:44,628 --> 00:17:47,457
Hmm. And we're just supposed
to accept that
432
00:17:47,501 --> 00:17:48,893
because you assert it?
433
00:17:48,937 --> 00:17:50,765
With all due respect,
Dr. Bull,
434
00:17:50,808 --> 00:17:52,332
it may or may not be true.
435
00:17:52,375 --> 00:17:55,161
But what is true,
what is unassailable,
436
00:17:55,204 --> 00:17:56,901
is that all of your jury strikes
437
00:17:56,945 --> 00:17:59,208
were exercised
against Caucasians.
438
00:17:59,252 --> 00:18:00,992
ARGAWAL:
I don't doubt
your methods, Dr. Bull,
439
00:18:01,036 --> 00:18:01,993
but it's hard
to disagree
440
00:18:02,037 --> 00:18:04,213
with A.D.A. Olson's point.
441
00:18:04,257 --> 00:18:05,780
Out of an abundance of caution,
442
00:18:05,823 --> 00:18:08,261
I'm not going to allow you
to strike juror number 30.
443
00:18:08,304 --> 00:18:09,218
Your Honor...
444
00:18:09,262 --> 00:18:11,264
She stays, Mr. Palmer.
445
00:18:18,227 --> 00:18:19,750
OLSON:
Mrs. Kaminsky,
446
00:18:19,794 --> 00:18:22,449
did your late husband
ever mention
447
00:18:22,492 --> 00:18:23,928
Leo Craddick to you?
448
00:18:23,972 --> 00:18:26,061
Not by name.
449
00:18:26,105 --> 00:18:28,324
Joe never talked
about his cases.
450
00:18:29,151 --> 00:18:34,113
So, I-I'm confused
when you say "not by name."
451
00:18:34,156 --> 00:18:35,940
Have you ever met Leo Craddick?
452
00:18:35,984 --> 00:18:37,638
Yes, I have.
453
00:18:37,681 --> 00:18:40,728
OLSON:And can you tell us when and
where you met the defendant?
454
00:18:40,771 --> 00:18:43,731
It was during the trial
involving the father.
455
00:18:43,774 --> 00:18:45,428
Joe went to testify and told me
456
00:18:45,472 --> 00:18:48,866
he ran into the man's son
in the hall.
457
00:18:48,910 --> 00:18:50,868
He didn't say so, but...
458
00:18:50,912 --> 00:18:52,435
you could tell it rattled him.
459
00:18:52,479 --> 00:18:55,134
Otherwise, he never
would have mentioned it.Hmm.
460
00:18:55,177 --> 00:18:56,918
EMILY:Anyway, since he
was in court
461
00:18:56,961 --> 00:18:59,312
that day, he left me the car.
462
00:18:59,355 --> 00:19:00,922
He was going
to take the train home
463
00:19:00,965 --> 00:19:02,271
after he was done
at the station house,
464
00:19:02,315 --> 00:19:04,404
but I offered to pick him up.
465
00:19:06,057 --> 00:19:08,103
And when I got there,
466
00:19:08,147 --> 00:19:09,974
I went to park in Joe's spot.
467
00:19:10,018 --> 00:19:12,803
And as soon as I did,
a man walked over.
468
00:19:12,847 --> 00:19:14,979
OLSON:
And do you see
469
00:19:15,023 --> 00:19:18,069
that man in the courtroom?
470
00:19:18,853 --> 00:19:20,985
I do.
471
00:19:21,029 --> 00:19:22,465
It's him.
472
00:19:22,509 --> 00:19:24,902
OLSON:And what happened
when he walked over?
473
00:19:24,946 --> 00:19:28,210
He asked me if I knew that this
was Detective Kaminsky's spot.
474
00:19:28,254 --> 00:19:29,516
And what did you say?
475
00:19:29,559 --> 00:19:30,995
I said I did.
476
00:19:31,039 --> 00:19:32,432
I mean, there was a sign.
477
00:19:32,475 --> 00:19:35,826
So, did that seem
like a strange question to you?
478
00:19:35,870 --> 00:19:38,699
Objection. Counsel
is leading the witness.
479
00:19:38,742 --> 00:19:39,787
Objection sustained.
480
00:19:39,830 --> 00:19:41,049
Rephrase the question, please.
481
00:19:41,832 --> 00:19:43,486
Can you describe
482
00:19:43,530 --> 00:19:45,401
what you did
when the defendant asked
483
00:19:45,445 --> 00:19:47,751
if the spot belonged
to Detective Kaminsky?
484
00:19:47,795 --> 00:19:50,189
I told him it did.
485
00:19:50,972 --> 00:19:53,279
And then I instantly
regretted it.
486
00:19:53,322 --> 00:19:54,889
Why?
487
00:19:54,932 --> 00:19:56,369
I don't know.
488
00:19:56,412 --> 00:19:58,675
There was something desperate
about him.
489
00:19:58,719 --> 00:20:00,068
About the question.
490
00:20:00,111 --> 00:20:02,026
He said he had gone
into the station house
491
00:20:02,070 --> 00:20:04,638
and asked
to see Joe,
492
00:20:04,681 --> 00:20:07,467
but they wouldn't even tell him
if he was working or not.
493
00:20:07,510 --> 00:20:09,773
Said he had to call
and make an appointment.
494
00:20:09,817 --> 00:20:11,340
And what did you say?
495
00:20:11,384 --> 00:20:16,258
I lied and told him
I was sure Joe wasn't working.
496
00:20:16,302 --> 00:20:17,825
Otherwise
he never would have told me
497
00:20:17,868 --> 00:20:19,870
it was okay to use his spot.
498
00:20:19,914 --> 00:20:21,481
And then what happened?
499
00:20:21,524 --> 00:20:23,265
And then I went
into the station house
500
00:20:23,309 --> 00:20:25,572
like I worked there, too.
501
00:20:26,703 --> 00:20:28,183
As soon as I got in the door,
502
00:20:28,227 --> 00:20:30,620
I mentioned it
to the watch commander,
503
00:20:30,664 --> 00:20:32,970
and they sent somebody out
to take a look.
504
00:20:33,014 --> 00:20:34,581
But...
505
00:20:34,624 --> 00:20:36,060
by then, he was gone.
506
00:20:36,104 --> 00:20:38,149
Okay, so let's just review.
507
00:20:38,193 --> 00:20:40,021
Your husband had an encounter
508
00:20:40,064 --> 00:20:42,023
with Leo Craddick
in the courthouse corridor...CHUNK: Objection.
509
00:20:42,066 --> 00:20:43,633
Counsel's assuming facts
that are not in evidence....earlier that day.
510
00:20:43,677 --> 00:20:45,069
And then you
encountered him
511
00:20:45,113 --> 00:20:46,810
later that night,
skulking around
512
00:20:46,854 --> 00:20:48,116
the station house...Your Honor.
513
00:20:48,159 --> 00:20:49,552
Objection sustained....after he was told
514
00:20:49,596 --> 00:20:50,901
he needed to have
an appointment.The jury will...
515
00:20:50,945 --> 00:20:52,163
In your opinion...Ms. Olson...
516
00:20:52,207 --> 00:20:53,556
...was he lying in wait?I'm ordering you
517
00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:55,515
to stop questioning the witness!Or perhaps planning
518
00:20:55,558 --> 00:20:57,299
to shoot your husband
that night?Counsel is ignoring
519
00:20:57,343 --> 00:20:59,258
the order
from the bench!Ms. Olson, that's enough!
520
00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:09,137
The jury will disregard
the A.D.A.'s... outbursts.
521
00:21:09,180 --> 00:21:10,747
Like hell they will.
522
00:21:10,791 --> 00:21:12,271
ARGAWAL:
And you, my dear,
523
00:21:12,314 --> 00:21:13,533
are within a hair's breadth
524
00:21:13,576 --> 00:21:15,752
of being found
in contempt of court.
525
00:21:15,796 --> 00:21:17,406
Am I being clear?
526
00:21:17,450 --> 00:21:19,060
Very.
527
00:21:19,103 --> 00:21:20,191
LEO:
You were there.
528
00:21:20,235 --> 00:21:22,019
I called him out
at the courthouse,
529
00:21:22,063 --> 00:21:24,108
told him
there was gonna be a reckoning.
530
00:21:24,152 --> 00:21:25,719
He even said,
"Are you threatening me?"
531
00:21:25,762 --> 00:21:27,111
I remember it well.
532
00:21:27,155 --> 00:21:29,157
Now, get to the part
where you're stalking him
533
00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:30,419
at the precinct?
534
00:21:30,463 --> 00:21:32,334
I wasn't stalking him
at the precinct.
535
00:21:32,378 --> 00:21:34,989
I wasn't stalking him anywhere.
536
00:21:35,032 --> 00:21:36,469
[sighs]
537
00:21:36,512 --> 00:21:39,210
I realized as soon
as I saw the look on your face
538
00:21:39,254 --> 00:21:42,779
that I should never have
confronted Kaminsky in that way.
539
00:21:42,823 --> 00:21:45,782
That that was no way
to get my father out of jail.
540
00:21:45,826 --> 00:21:47,828
So, again,
541
00:21:47,871 --> 00:21:50,744
what were you doing
at the precinct that night?
542
00:21:51,745 --> 00:21:53,834
[sighs]
543
00:21:53,877 --> 00:21:56,271
I went there to apologize.
544
00:21:57,620 --> 00:21:59,535
I went there
545
00:21:59,579 --> 00:22:02,712
to try and repair whatever
damage I might have done.
546
00:22:02,756 --> 00:22:04,279
But like his wife said,
547
00:22:04,323 --> 00:22:06,368
they wouldn't even tell me
if he was there.
548
00:22:06,412 --> 00:22:08,283
So I thought
I'd look in the parking lot.
549
00:22:08,327 --> 00:22:10,459
And suddenly,
a car pulled into his spot.
550
00:22:10,503 --> 00:22:13,157
I had no idea she was his wife.
551
00:22:13,201 --> 00:22:15,159
I figured
she was just another cop
552
00:22:15,203 --> 00:22:16,813
whose space was just
further away.
553
00:22:16,857 --> 00:22:19,294
So when she told me that
he wasn't working that night,
554
00:22:19,338 --> 00:22:21,514
I took her word for it
and went home.
555
00:22:22,384 --> 00:22:24,299
Oh, see, that-that...
that's a great answer.
556
00:22:24,343 --> 00:22:26,432
I love that answer.
I want to put you on the stand
557
00:22:26,475 --> 00:22:28,521
so you can tell
that to the jury.
558
00:22:28,564 --> 00:22:30,653
[chuckling]:
Except you can't.Excuse me?
559
00:22:30,697 --> 00:22:32,394
She just set a trap
for you, that A.D.A.
560
00:22:32,438 --> 00:22:35,528
She's tough.
She's ferocious.
561
00:22:35,571 --> 00:22:37,660
There's nothing
she wants more
562
00:22:37,704 --> 00:22:39,401
than for you to put
him on the stand
563
00:22:39,445 --> 00:22:40,881
so he can declare
his innocence.
564
00:22:40,924 --> 00:22:43,623
And then, she will say,
"While I have you up here,
565
00:22:43,666 --> 00:22:45,320
"isn't it true that
you are a member
566
00:22:45,364 --> 00:22:46,887
"of the Black Lives
Matter movement?
567
00:22:46,930 --> 00:22:50,630
"And isn't it also true that,
in connection with a protest
568
00:22:50,673 --> 00:22:53,328
that was staged 14 months
ago, you were arrested?"
569
00:22:53,372 --> 00:22:55,852
So, what do we do?
570
00:22:55,896 --> 00:22:57,637
[sighs]
571
00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:00,074
Quite honestly,
I don't know.
572
00:23:00,814 --> 00:23:02,032
I think I do.
573
00:23:02,076 --> 00:23:03,338
CHUNK:
So let me make sure
574
00:23:03,382 --> 00:23:04,861
that I understand
what transpired
575
00:23:04,905 --> 00:23:06,297
that night in the parking lot.
576
00:23:06,341 --> 00:23:07,690
You pulled
into your husband's spot,
577
00:23:07,734 --> 00:23:09,779
and then
Mr. Craddick approached you.
578
00:23:09,823 --> 00:23:11,041
Yes.
579
00:23:11,085 --> 00:23:13,696
And did he touch your car?
580
00:23:13,740 --> 00:23:15,611
What do you mean?
581
00:23:15,655 --> 00:23:18,527
CHUNK:
Well, one of the key pieces
of evidence that
582
00:23:18,571 --> 00:23:20,442
the prosecution
keeps telling us about
583
00:23:20,486 --> 00:23:24,228
is this palm print
on Detective Kaminsky's car.
584
00:23:24,272 --> 00:23:26,796
The same car that
you were driving that night.
585
00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:28,450
Okay.
586
00:23:28,494 --> 00:23:30,452
CHUNK:
So I'm asking,
in your back and forth
587
00:23:30,496 --> 00:23:32,889
with Mr. Craddick,
did he have occasion
588
00:23:32,933 --> 00:23:34,717
to put his hand on your car?
589
00:23:34,761 --> 00:23:38,242
Maybe his palm on
the driver's side of the roof?
590
00:23:38,286 --> 00:23:39,722
Not that I recall.
591
00:23:39,766 --> 00:23:42,464
Do you recall testifying
not 20 minutes ago
592
00:23:42,508 --> 00:23:44,945
that at a point,
you left your car,
593
00:23:44,988 --> 00:23:47,556
and you went into
the station house?Yes.
594
00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:49,906
And you were so concerned about
Mr. Craddick being out there
595
00:23:49,950 --> 00:23:52,518
that, well, you told
the watch commander about it.
596
00:23:52,561 --> 00:23:53,867
Yes.
597
00:23:53,910 --> 00:23:55,521
Well, isn't it possible that,
during that time,
598
00:23:55,564 --> 00:23:58,088
that Leo inadvertently
left his palm print
599
00:23:58,132 --> 00:24:00,569
on the driver's side roof
of the vehicle
600
00:24:00,613 --> 00:24:02,702
where the police
later discovered it?
601
00:24:03,616 --> 00:24:05,095
I don't know. I didn't see it.
602
00:24:05,139 --> 00:24:07,446
But isn't it possible?
603
00:24:07,489 --> 00:24:08,969
Objection! Asked and answered.
604
00:24:09,012 --> 00:24:11,537
Overruled. The witness
will answer the question.
605
00:24:12,929 --> 00:24:15,497
I suppose it's possible.
606
00:24:15,541 --> 00:24:17,586
CHUNK:
Are you aware
607
00:24:17,630 --> 00:24:20,937
that a palm imprint, like
the one that my client left,
608
00:24:20,981 --> 00:24:24,245
can last for a day, a week,
609
00:24:24,288 --> 00:24:25,551
even years?Objection!
610
00:24:25,594 --> 00:24:27,117
The defense is testifying!
611
00:24:27,161 --> 00:24:30,512
Sustained. The jury will
disregard that last statement.
612
00:24:30,556 --> 00:24:32,296
No further questions,
Your Honor.
613
00:24:32,340 --> 00:24:34,516
MARISSA:
Wow. That was pretty impressive.
614
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:37,084
Just goes to show you,
when life hands you lemons...
615
00:24:37,127 --> 00:24:38,868
You want to make sure
there's someone on your team
616
00:24:38,912 --> 00:24:40,696
with lots of tequila and salt.
617
00:24:47,007 --> 00:24:49,792
Answers. We got answers.
618
00:24:49,836 --> 00:24:51,141
Fire when ready.
619
00:24:51,185 --> 00:24:53,404
Okay, well, it turns out
all of the owners
620
00:24:53,448 --> 00:24:55,102
of all of the burner phones
that Kaminsky gave out
621
00:24:55,145 --> 00:24:57,496
to his confidential informants
are either in jail,
622
00:24:57,539 --> 00:24:59,236
alibied out or dead.
623
00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:00,368
How convenient.
624
00:25:00,411 --> 00:25:02,326
All of them...
625
00:25:02,370 --> 00:25:04,546
except for one.
626
00:25:04,590 --> 00:25:06,069
Who, of course, is the person
627
00:25:06,113 --> 00:25:08,637
who texted Kaminsky four
times the night of his death.
628
00:25:08,681 --> 00:25:10,334
And that phone would belong to?
629
00:25:10,378 --> 00:25:11,901
I have no idea.
630
00:25:11,945 --> 00:25:13,990
Kaminsky kept records
of the others,
631
00:25:14,034 --> 00:25:16,123
but this one's kind of a ghost.
632
00:25:16,166 --> 00:25:17,994
Never officially assigned
to anyone.
633
00:25:18,038 --> 00:25:20,301
May not even be one of
the ones he gave out.
634
00:25:20,344 --> 00:25:21,563
I mean,
635
00:25:21,607 --> 00:25:23,043
who says every call he gets
636
00:25:23,086 --> 00:25:25,262
from a burner phone
has to be from an informant?
637
00:25:25,306 --> 00:25:26,786
Good point.
638
00:25:26,829 --> 00:25:30,093
Can you run
this one last number again?
639
00:25:30,137 --> 00:25:31,573
I don't even know
if it's possible,
640
00:25:31,617 --> 00:25:33,227
but can you see
what the point of purchase was?
641
00:25:33,270 --> 00:25:35,359
Where whoever owns this thing
might have gotten it from?
642
00:25:35,403 --> 00:25:38,885
It'll at least give me a...
a starting point.
643
00:25:38,928 --> 00:25:40,321
The prosecution would like
644
00:25:40,364 --> 00:25:42,758
to call Ahmaud Coleman
to the stand.
645
00:25:42,802 --> 00:25:45,369
[door opens]
646
00:25:47,241 --> 00:25:48,503
CHUNK:
Objection.
647
00:25:48,547 --> 00:25:50,418
Your Honor, this man's name
does not appear
648
00:25:50,461 --> 00:25:51,898
on any witness list.
649
00:25:51,941 --> 00:25:54,378
This is a blatant violation
of the rules of discovery.
650
00:25:54,422 --> 00:25:55,858
OLSON:
Apology
651
00:25:55,902 --> 00:25:57,338
to the court, Your Honor.
652
00:25:57,381 --> 00:25:59,558
This witness just came
to my attention late last night,
653
00:25:59,601 --> 00:26:01,385
when he was arrested
for an unrelated matter.
654
00:26:01,429 --> 00:26:02,604
Your Honor...
655
00:26:02,648 --> 00:26:03,910
You'll be provided
with all the time
656
00:26:03,953 --> 00:26:05,346
you require to prepare
657
00:26:05,389 --> 00:26:07,478
to cross-examine the witness,
Mr. Palmer.
658
00:26:07,522 --> 00:26:09,045
I'd like to proceed.
659
00:26:09,089 --> 00:26:11,526
Yes, Your Honor.
660
00:26:12,614 --> 00:26:14,964
OLSON:
Mr. Coleman,
661
00:26:15,008 --> 00:26:17,271
you and the defendant live
in the same apartment complex.
662
00:26:17,314 --> 00:26:18,881
Is that right?
663
00:26:18,925 --> 00:26:19,882
That's right.
664
00:26:19,926 --> 00:26:21,144
And are you and
the defendant
665
00:26:21,188 --> 00:26:24,365
close friends? Acquaintances?
666
00:26:24,408 --> 00:26:25,932
Neighbors.
667
00:26:25,975 --> 00:26:28,369
I'd mostly see him at
the Housing Authority meetings.
668
00:26:28,412 --> 00:26:30,850
Had to raise hell
to get them to fix anything.
669
00:26:30,893 --> 00:26:33,940
Did the defendant ever share
his feelings about the police
670
00:26:33,983 --> 00:26:36,072
while the two of you were
at one of those meetings?
671
00:26:36,116 --> 00:26:38,335
Yeah. Leo would say
how the only reason
672
00:26:38,379 --> 00:26:41,730
his father was in prison was
the police railroaded him.
673
00:26:41,774 --> 00:26:43,123
Hmm.
674
00:26:43,166 --> 00:26:45,299
Did he say anything else?
675
00:26:45,342 --> 00:26:47,997
Anything that stood out to you?
676
00:26:49,346 --> 00:26:51,610
One day he asked
if I knew anyone
677
00:26:51,653 --> 00:26:53,350
who could help him get a gun.
678
00:26:53,394 --> 00:26:54,961
OLSON:
Oh.
679
00:26:56,484 --> 00:26:57,920
Did Leo Craddicksay why
680
00:26:57,964 --> 00:26:59,269
he wanted a gun?
681
00:26:59,313 --> 00:27:00,619
He just wanted to know
how long it would take.
682
00:27:00,662 --> 00:27:02,185
Said he needed it fast.
683
00:27:02,229 --> 00:27:03,665
Mm-hmm. Was this before
684
00:27:03,709 --> 00:27:06,625
or after Detective Kaminsky
was shot to death?
685
00:27:09,149 --> 00:27:10,890
It was before.
686
00:27:10,933 --> 00:27:14,415
OLSON:
Nothing further
at this time, Your Honor.
687
00:27:14,458 --> 00:27:16,286
[whispering]:
You bought a gun
from this guy?
688
00:27:16,330 --> 00:27:18,245
No. Of course not.
689
00:27:18,288 --> 00:27:20,116
There have been a bunch of
break-ins in our building.
690
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,249
I thought about getting
a gun for protection,
691
00:27:22,292 --> 00:27:23,729
but I never
followed through.
692
00:27:30,692 --> 00:27:33,303
So you got picked up
for something last night,
693
00:27:33,347 --> 00:27:34,957
and someone suggested to you
694
00:27:35,001 --> 00:27:36,480
that if you come
into court this morning
695
00:27:36,524 --> 00:27:38,613
and testify against my client,
696
00:27:38,657 --> 00:27:40,833
that things might go
a little easier for you?
697
00:27:40,876 --> 00:27:42,617
Hmm?
698
00:27:43,923 --> 00:27:46,099
The witness will answer
the question.CHUNK: No.
699
00:27:46,142 --> 00:27:47,622
That's all right, Your Honor.
700
00:27:47,666 --> 00:27:49,363
We'll give him this one
for free.
701
00:27:49,406 --> 00:27:51,495
Mr. Coleman,
702
00:27:51,539 --> 00:27:54,020
did my client ever buy a gun
from you?
703
00:27:54,063 --> 00:27:55,195
No.
704
00:27:55,238 --> 00:27:57,240
And did my client
ever follow up
705
00:27:57,284 --> 00:27:58,851
with you about buying a gun?
706
00:27:58,894 --> 00:28:00,766
No.So,
707
00:28:00,809 --> 00:28:03,246
my client never bought a gun
from you,
708
00:28:03,290 --> 00:28:06,902
and the two of you never
discussed the subject again?
709
00:28:06,946 --> 00:28:08,425
No.
710
00:28:08,469 --> 00:28:10,079
I see.
711
00:28:10,123 --> 00:28:13,909
So the totality
of your testimony is
712
00:28:13,953 --> 00:28:16,477
that you and my client
had a little chat?
713
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:18,609
I suppose.
714
00:28:18,653 --> 00:28:21,003
And during that chat,
did my client tell you
715
00:28:21,047 --> 00:28:23,876
that the reason why
he wanted a gun was because
716
00:28:23,919 --> 00:28:25,747
of all of the break-ins
in your building,
717
00:28:25,791 --> 00:28:28,445
and that that is
why he wanted a gun?
718
00:28:28,489 --> 00:28:30,752
You're under oath, Mr. Coleman.
719
00:28:30,796 --> 00:28:33,668
It came up in the conversation.
720
00:28:33,712 --> 00:28:35,670
I bet it did.
721
00:28:37,019 --> 00:28:40,066
I have nothing further
for this... witness.
722
00:28:42,198 --> 00:28:43,765
LEO:
That was a nice piece
723
00:28:43,809 --> 00:28:45,375
of lawyering, Mr. Palmer.
724
00:28:45,419 --> 00:28:47,116
Thank you.
725
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:48,378
I'm just doing my job.
726
00:28:48,422 --> 00:28:51,599
And how do you see this going?
727
00:28:51,642 --> 00:28:53,601
What's that jury thinking?
728
00:28:53,644 --> 00:28:55,734
It's hard to say.
729
00:28:55,777 --> 00:28:59,912
And they need 12 to convict,
they need 12 to exonerate.
730
00:28:59,955 --> 00:29:02,697
Anything else,
and we have a hung jury.
731
00:29:02,741 --> 00:29:05,134
You go back to prison,
and then we go
732
00:29:05,178 --> 00:29:07,789
and do this all over again
in eight or nine months.
733
00:29:07,833 --> 00:29:10,444
None of that sounds
like an answer.
734
00:29:12,011 --> 00:29:14,056
They believe
your motive is revenge.
735
00:29:14,100 --> 00:29:17,625
A witness said they saw
you seek out the victim.
736
00:29:17,668 --> 00:29:20,062
And someone else said
you wanted to buy a gun.
737
00:29:20,106 --> 00:29:21,281
But I didn't buy one.
738
00:29:21,324 --> 00:29:22,804
But you asked about it.
739
00:29:22,848 --> 00:29:25,067
And we know
there's at least one juror
740
00:29:25,111 --> 00:29:27,722
whose mind we are not
gonna change about you.
741
00:29:30,769 --> 00:29:32,945
Because I look the part.
742
00:29:33,859 --> 00:29:36,905
[sighs]
Put me on the stand.
743
00:29:37,819 --> 00:29:39,603
Let me testify.
Let me tell my story.
744
00:29:39,647 --> 00:29:40,953
Leo, we put you
on the stand,
745
00:29:40,996 --> 00:29:43,085
and that A.D.A.'s
first question is going to be,
746
00:29:43,129 --> 00:29:45,392
"Do you stand
with Black Lives Matter?"
747
00:29:45,435 --> 00:29:46,654
And my answer's gonna be,
748
00:29:46,697 --> 00:29:48,221
"Hell yes, I do!"
749
00:29:48,264 --> 00:29:50,876
Black lives matter. Why is
that even open for debate?
750
00:29:50,919 --> 00:29:54,749
It shouldn't be,
but with this jury, it is.
751
00:29:54,793 --> 00:29:59,362
I want...to testify.
752
00:29:59,406 --> 00:30:01,408
It's my life.
753
00:30:01,451 --> 00:30:04,628
If I'm going to spend the rest
of it behind bars,
754
00:30:04,672 --> 00:30:06,108
I want to look the people
755
00:30:06,152 --> 00:30:09,155
who are going to put me in there
in the eye.
756
00:30:11,505 --> 00:30:14,247
Okay, Leo. Okay.
757
00:30:14,290 --> 00:30:16,118
Let me think about it.Why?
758
00:30:16,162 --> 00:30:19,121
It's not even your choice.Let me think about it.
759
00:30:19,165 --> 00:30:21,515
You do whatever you want.
760
00:30:23,517 --> 00:30:25,824
I've already made up my mind.
761
00:30:25,867 --> 00:30:27,826
[elevator bell chimes]
762
00:30:27,869 --> 00:30:30,698
Gentlemen,
I have an idea.
763
00:30:33,222 --> 00:30:35,311
Dr. Bull.
764
00:30:35,355 --> 00:30:38,575
Arthur wanted
to have a word.
765
00:30:38,619 --> 00:30:41,491
Mr. Colón explained
the situation to me.
766
00:30:41,535 --> 00:30:43,580
I had a thought.
767
00:30:45,626 --> 00:30:49,195
Make me your first witness.
768
00:30:49,238 --> 00:30:50,761
Excuse me?
769
00:30:50,805 --> 00:30:53,721
Can you tell me where I can find
the owner of this bodega?
770
00:30:54,504 --> 00:30:56,202
I don't know.
771
00:30:56,245 --> 00:30:57,594
What do you want him for?
772
00:30:57,638 --> 00:30:58,944
I'm a private investigator,
and I was hoping
773
00:30:58,987 --> 00:31:01,120
he might be able
to give me some information.
774
00:31:01,163 --> 00:31:03,035
About what?
775
00:31:03,078 --> 00:31:05,472
Something somebody bought here.
776
00:31:05,515 --> 00:31:07,474
A phone.
777
00:31:07,517 --> 00:31:10,520
And when did you make the
decision to take an active role
778
00:31:10,564 --> 00:31:12,783
in securing your freedom
from prison?
779
00:31:12,827 --> 00:31:15,395
That's the thing.
780
00:31:15,438 --> 00:31:17,788
It wasn't me. It was Leo.
781
00:31:17,832 --> 00:31:20,922
Whenever he could afford
a stamp, he would write to me.
782
00:31:20,966 --> 00:31:22,881
Tell me how things were going
in school,
783
00:31:22,924 --> 00:31:24,621
send me his test papers,
784
00:31:24,665 --> 00:31:26,058
beg me to let him come visit.
785
00:31:26,101 --> 00:31:31,541
And, uh, even though I dreaded
786
00:31:31,585 --> 00:31:34,675
him seeing me in that place,
787
00:31:34,718 --> 00:31:36,503
him seeing me that way, I...
788
00:31:36,546 --> 00:31:39,854
I finally said "yes."
789
00:31:39,898 --> 00:31:42,857
And the first thing
he said was...
790
00:31:46,252 --> 00:31:51,213
"Pops... we're going
to get you out of here.
791
00:31:54,303 --> 00:31:56,697
"You didn't do this.
792
00:31:56,740 --> 00:31:58,873
"The law is the law,
793
00:31:58,917 --> 00:32:02,094
and you didn't break any laws."
794
00:32:05,924 --> 00:32:09,101
All that mattered to him
was that I was his father.
795
00:32:10,798 --> 00:32:13,540
[sniffles]
And that's how it started.
796
00:32:14,541 --> 00:32:17,500
I went to the prison library.
He went to the Bronx library.
797
00:32:17,544 --> 00:32:21,113
And twice a month, he would take
the-the bus up to the prison,
798
00:32:21,156 --> 00:32:23,767
and we would compare notes.OLSON:
Your Honor,
799
00:32:23,811 --> 00:32:25,030
I object.
800
00:32:25,073 --> 00:32:28,511
While this is all truly...
801
00:32:28,555 --> 00:32:30,035
fascinating,
802
00:32:30,078 --> 00:32:32,037
it's hard to see
how any of it
803
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:33,908
is relevant
to the business at hand,
804
00:32:33,952 --> 00:32:36,171
which is the murder
of Detective Kaminsky.
805
00:32:36,215 --> 00:32:37,781
CHUNK:
Your Honor, apologies.
806
00:32:37,825 --> 00:32:39,914
The witness is simply trying
to set the table
807
00:32:39,958 --> 00:32:41,481
and create some context.
808
00:32:41,524 --> 00:32:45,180
That's all well and good,
Mr. Palmer, but let's get to it.
809
00:32:46,790 --> 00:32:48,488
[quietly]:Okay.
810
00:32:48,531 --> 00:32:50,359
Mr. Craddick,
811
00:32:50,403 --> 00:32:54,015
do you believe that your son
murdered Detective Kaminsky?
812
00:32:54,059 --> 00:32:55,712
No, I do not.OLSON:
Objection.
813
00:32:55,756 --> 00:32:57,540
Calls for speculation.
814
00:32:57,584 --> 00:33:00,282
Besides which, this man
is a convicted murderer.
815
00:33:00,326 --> 00:33:02,371
CHUNK:Your Honor, the conviction
is in the process
816
00:33:02,415 --> 00:33:04,983
of being vacated.OLSON:
Not to mention the fact
817
00:33:05,026 --> 00:33:06,201
that on the night in question,
818
00:33:06,245 --> 00:33:07,028
he was behind bars
819
00:33:07,072 --> 00:33:08,247
and could not possibly know
820
00:33:08,290 --> 00:33:09,378
who did or did not
821
00:33:09,422 --> 00:33:10,640
shoot Detective Kaminsky.
822
00:33:10,684 --> 00:33:12,512
But I do.
823
00:33:12,555 --> 00:33:14,122
Objection.
824
00:33:14,166 --> 00:33:16,385
Sustained.
The jury will disregard.
825
00:33:16,429 --> 00:33:19,214
But, Your Honor, I really do
know who killed the detective.
826
00:33:19,258 --> 00:33:21,173
ARGAWAL:Mr. Craddick, I know
you've studied the law,
827
00:33:21,216 --> 00:33:23,523
so I know you know
how this works.
828
00:33:23,566 --> 00:33:26,004
You may not speak
out of turn.
829
00:33:26,047 --> 00:33:27,744
The attorney will ask
830
00:33:27,788 --> 00:33:30,269
a question,
and then you will answer.
831
00:33:31,531 --> 00:33:33,228
[whispers]:
Ask me.
832
00:33:38,538 --> 00:33:39,626
ARGAWAL:
Mr. Palmer,
833
00:33:39,669 --> 00:33:41,541
this is your witness.
834
00:33:41,584 --> 00:33:44,152
Ask a question.
835
00:33:45,719 --> 00:33:47,416
Mr. Craddick,
836
00:33:47,460 --> 00:33:50,463
do you know
who killed Detective Kaminsky?
837
00:33:50,506 --> 00:33:52,552
I do.
838
00:33:52,595 --> 00:33:53,988
Okay.
839
00:33:54,032 --> 00:33:56,164
And how is this possible?
840
00:33:56,208 --> 00:33:59,080
Because I'm the one
who paid the man who did it.
841
00:33:59,124 --> 00:34:00,995
[gallery murmuring]ARGAWAL:Order!
842
00:34:01,039 --> 00:34:02,475
[gavel banging]
843
00:34:02,518 --> 00:34:04,520
The jury will restrain itself.
844
00:34:04,564 --> 00:34:06,218
What the hell is he doing?
845
00:34:06,261 --> 00:34:08,220
Your Honor, we move to strike
the witness's last statement.
846
00:34:08,263 --> 00:34:10,309
ARGAWAL: Mr. Craddick,
are you saying
847
00:34:10,352 --> 00:34:12,659
you were directly involved
in the murder
848
00:34:12,702 --> 00:34:14,269
of Detective Kaminsky?
849
00:34:14,313 --> 00:34:17,185
Don't answer that!
Your Honor, I am this witness's
850
00:34:17,229 --> 00:34:18,578
attorney.ARTHUR:
Your Honor, I knew
851
00:34:18,621 --> 00:34:20,362
Kaminsky was gonna try
to keep me in jail,
852
00:34:20,406 --> 00:34:23,931
so I paid someone on the outside
$25,000 to have him killed
853
00:34:23,974 --> 00:34:26,064
so that he couldn't block
my parole.
854
00:34:26,107 --> 00:34:27,891
Y-Your Honor, uh,
I am requesting
855
00:34:27,935 --> 00:34:30,198
a recess to confer, please.OLSON:
I object.
856
00:34:30,242 --> 00:34:32,896
The people are entitled
to cross-examine this witness.
857
00:34:32,940 --> 00:34:34,550
Particularly in light
858
00:34:34,594 --> 00:34:36,422
of this preposterous
859
00:34:36,465 --> 00:34:38,250
and transparent attempt to
create reasonable doubt.
860
00:34:38,293 --> 00:34:40,078
ARGAWAL:
All right.[gavel bangs]
861
00:34:41,122 --> 00:34:42,515
I'm sorry, Ms. Olson,
862
00:34:42,558 --> 00:34:44,647
but we are going to adjourn
for the day.
863
00:34:44,691 --> 00:34:48,086
And unless Mr. Palmer
has any more questions,
864
00:34:48,129 --> 00:34:50,000
when we return,
865
00:34:50,044 --> 00:34:52,264
we will commence
with cross-examination.
866
00:34:52,307 --> 00:34:55,354
Court is adjourned.[gavel bangs]
867
00:34:55,397 --> 00:34:57,921
You committed perjury.
That's a felony.
868
00:34:57,965 --> 00:34:59,923
You just violated the
terms of your parole.
869
00:34:59,967 --> 00:35:02,535
Arthur, what were you thinking?
870
00:35:03,362 --> 00:35:05,146
I was thinking
that being innocent
871
00:35:05,190 --> 00:35:06,974
wasn't going to keep
my son out of jail.
872
00:35:12,588 --> 00:35:13,981
So, I went to the bodega
hoping whoever
873
00:35:14,024 --> 00:35:15,417
sold our man the phone
might have a record
874
00:35:15,461 --> 00:35:17,680
of it and that
he might be willing
875
00:35:17,724 --> 00:35:19,552
to part
with that information
876
00:35:19,595 --> 00:35:21,380
for enough money.And?
877
00:35:21,423 --> 00:35:23,425
DANNY:
And he hadn't
878
00:35:23,469 --> 00:35:24,948
actually sold that phone
to anyone.
879
00:35:24,992 --> 00:35:26,254
It was his phone.
880
00:35:26,298 --> 00:35:28,387
It belonged to the man
who owned the bodega.
881
00:35:28,430 --> 00:35:29,910
Okay, so, now we're saying
882
00:35:29,953 --> 00:35:33,000
that Detective Kaminsky
was killed by some bodega guy?
883
00:35:33,043 --> 00:35:34,262
I didn't say that.
884
00:35:34,306 --> 00:35:36,308
I said the phone belonged
to the bodega guy.
885
00:35:36,351 --> 00:35:38,397
Cost me 500 bucks, by the way.
886
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:40,877
[sighs]So, why was Bodega Guy
887
00:35:40,921 --> 00:35:42,488
calling Kaminsky the
night of the murder?
888
00:35:42,531 --> 00:35:44,185
Or, for that matter,
889
00:35:44,229 --> 00:35:47,145
any of the other dozens
of times they spoke?DANNY: Well,
890
00:35:47,188 --> 00:35:48,755
let's not talk about the night
of the murder just yet.
891
00:35:48,798 --> 00:35:50,278
And all the other times
that Kaminsky
892
00:35:50,322 --> 00:35:51,671
and the bodega guy talked
893
00:35:51,714 --> 00:35:53,194
was because
they were conducting business.
894
00:35:53,238 --> 00:35:54,456
Business?
895
00:35:54,500 --> 00:35:55,762
DANNY:
The bodega guy
896
00:35:55,805 --> 00:35:57,416
was supplying Kaminsky
with Adderall.
897
00:35:57,459 --> 00:35:59,113
Apparently,
he used it to stay up late.
898
00:35:59,157 --> 00:36:00,854
Used it the way people chew gum.
899
00:36:00,897 --> 00:36:03,509
I'm following you, but I have
no idea where you're going.
900
00:36:03,552 --> 00:36:04,684
Oh, Danny,
put them out of their misery.
901
00:36:04,727 --> 00:36:06,207
Get to the good stuff.
902
00:36:06,251 --> 00:36:09,341
It turns out the bodega guy
got busted by two cops
903
00:36:09,384 --> 00:36:11,343
five days
before Kaminsky's murder.
904
00:36:11,386 --> 00:36:13,954
But instead of arresting him,
the cops took all his money,
905
00:36:13,997 --> 00:36:17,262
his drugs and his burner phone.
906
00:36:17,305 --> 00:36:19,046
Okay, so, wait.
Now you're saying
907
00:36:19,089 --> 00:36:21,222
you think that the people
that were calling Kaminsky
908
00:36:21,266 --> 00:36:23,877
the night of his murder
were cops?
909
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:25,879
We know they were cops.
And now that Taylor
910
00:36:25,922 --> 00:36:28,534
has broken the encryption
on Kaminsky's phone,
911
00:36:28,577 --> 00:36:32,102
I think we have enough
to prove they killed him.
912
00:36:33,321 --> 00:36:35,889
[door opens]
913
00:36:39,284 --> 00:36:42,156
Well, thank you for agreeing to
meet us so early in the morning.
914
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:43,592
[sighs]
915
00:36:43,636 --> 00:36:45,812
This better be good.
916
00:36:45,855 --> 00:36:47,553
So, when Kaminsky wanted
to buy more Adderall,
917
00:36:47,596 --> 00:36:48,858
he couldn't get his connect
on the phone,
918
00:36:48,902 --> 00:36:50,904
so he went
to see him in person.
919
00:36:50,947 --> 00:36:52,775
BULL:
And that's when he discovered
the two detectives he knew
920
00:36:52,819 --> 00:36:56,170
were shaking down small-time
drug dealers, including his.
921
00:36:56,997 --> 00:37:00,000
So you think he threatened
to go to Internal Affairs?
922
00:37:01,001 --> 00:37:02,307
I know he did.
923
00:37:02,350 --> 00:37:05,484
Our technical team
unencrypted their conversations.
924
00:37:05,527 --> 00:37:06,746
They said
925
00:37:06,789 --> 00:37:08,051
they would kill him
926
00:37:08,095 --> 00:37:10,445
if he threatened to
destroy their lives.
927
00:37:11,664 --> 00:37:12,882
Our first witness this morning
928
00:37:12,926 --> 00:37:14,623
is scheduled to be
the bodega owner.
929
00:37:14,667 --> 00:37:15,929
The drug dealer.
930
00:37:15,972 --> 00:37:17,060
Who will identify
931
00:37:17,104 --> 00:37:18,801
the two detectives
who shook him down
932
00:37:18,845 --> 00:37:20,499
in exchange for leniency
933
00:37:20,542 --> 00:37:23,153
because he is unmasking
two corrupt cops.
934
00:37:23,197 --> 00:37:26,766
Unless, of course, you'd rather
he didn't testify for us
935
00:37:26,809 --> 00:37:28,768
but instead testified for you
936
00:37:28,811 --> 00:37:31,727
when you bring charges
against these two detectives.
937
00:37:46,525 --> 00:37:48,440
As the, uh, people
938
00:37:48,483 --> 00:37:50,616
and the defense
were in agreement,
939
00:37:50,659 --> 00:37:53,271
I was expecting to enter
a finding of "not guilty"
940
00:37:53,314 --> 00:37:54,794
in this matter.
941
00:37:54,837 --> 00:37:57,231
However,
Judge Argawal informed me
942
00:37:57,275 --> 00:38:00,103
of Mr. Craddick's recent
outburst in her courtroom.
943
00:38:00,147 --> 00:38:02,802
Can you explain your
actions, Mr. Craddick?
944
00:38:02,845 --> 00:38:05,935
If I may, Your Honor,
my client's actions
945
00:38:05,979 --> 00:38:09,025
were not born
out of any contempt for the law
946
00:38:09,069 --> 00:38:12,028
but were those, simply,
of a desperate father
947
00:38:12,072 --> 00:38:13,639
trying to protect his son.
948
00:38:13,682 --> 00:38:17,773
Now, Mr. Craddick
deeply regrets his outburst.
949
00:38:17,817 --> 00:38:20,733
But, in light of the unusual
circumstances of this case,
950
00:38:20,776 --> 00:38:23,779
I ask that the court
show some mercy
951
00:38:23,823 --> 00:38:27,522
and rule favorably
on our petition.
952
00:38:33,311 --> 00:38:35,356
Your Honor,
953
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,838
Mr. Craddick has endured
12 years in prison
954
00:38:38,881 --> 00:38:42,755
for a crime he did not commit,
and...
955
00:38:42,798 --> 00:38:46,715
the people will not compound his
suffering by pressing charges
956
00:38:46,759 --> 00:38:47,847
at this time.
957
00:38:47,890 --> 00:38:49,022
The people
958
00:38:49,065 --> 00:38:50,415
likewise request
959
00:38:50,458 --> 00:38:53,243
that the court enter a finding
of "not guilty."
960
00:38:54,114 --> 00:38:57,291
Mr. Craddick,
if I could ask you to stand.
961
00:39:03,166 --> 00:39:06,518
Mr. Craddick, some wrongs
are impossible to make right.
962
00:39:06,561 --> 00:39:09,477
But occasionally,
we are given the opportunity
963
00:39:09,521 --> 00:39:12,001
to offer a small correction
964
00:39:12,045 --> 00:39:14,047
to the grotesque cruelties
965
00:39:14,090 --> 00:39:17,485
that are suffered
in the name of justice.
966
00:39:19,226 --> 00:39:23,056
I'm going to rule in favor
of you, the petitioner.
967
00:39:23,099 --> 00:39:26,494
A verdict of "not guilty" will
be entered into the record
968
00:39:26,538 --> 00:39:29,976
along with the
apologies of the court.
969
00:39:30,019 --> 00:39:34,023
Mr. Craddick, you're free to go.
970
00:39:34,067 --> 00:39:35,547
[gavel bangs]
971
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:47,515
[indistinct whispering]
972
00:39:48,995 --> 00:39:50,388
[door opens]
973
00:39:59,484 --> 00:40:01,050
[sighs]
So, what do you know?
974
00:40:01,094 --> 00:40:03,357
Is the A.D.A. gonna play ball?BULL:Well,
975
00:40:03,401 --> 00:40:04,532
she hasn't said
anything yet.
976
00:40:04,576 --> 00:40:06,316
All I know is people
977
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:08,449
with D.A. medallions
hanging from their necks
978
00:40:08,493 --> 00:40:11,670
keep showing up and speaking
passionately with her.OFFICER: All rise.
979
00:40:17,850 --> 00:40:19,025
All right, then.
980
00:40:19,068 --> 00:40:21,288
I believe it's now
981
00:40:21,331 --> 00:40:23,290
the prosecution's turn
to cross-examine
982
00:40:23,333 --> 00:40:25,205
Mr. Arthur Craddick.
983
00:40:25,248 --> 00:40:27,250
Could we please have
Mr. Craddick take his place
984
00:40:27,294 --> 00:40:29,470
in the witness box?OLSON:
Your Honor,
985
00:40:29,514 --> 00:40:31,820
before we continue,
there's a matter
986
00:40:31,864 --> 00:40:34,475
we'd very much like to bring
to the court's attention.
987
00:40:34,519 --> 00:40:36,608
A few moments ago,
I was able
988
00:40:36,651 --> 00:40:38,044
to confirm
that an arrest warrant
989
00:40:38,087 --> 00:40:40,786
had been issued
for Detective Ryan Pierson.
990
00:40:40,829 --> 00:40:43,963
Just this morning,
investigators uncovered evidence
991
00:40:44,006 --> 00:40:45,181
implicating Pierson
992
00:40:45,225 --> 00:40:47,314
in the murder
of Detective Joe Kaminsky.
993
00:40:47,357 --> 00:40:49,447
In light of this,
994
00:40:49,490 --> 00:40:50,926
and other evidence provided
995
00:40:50,970 --> 00:40:53,451
in conjunction
with an ongoing investigation
996
00:40:53,494 --> 00:40:54,669
with Internal Affairs,
997
00:40:54,713 --> 00:40:58,281
the people
are informing the court
998
00:40:58,325 --> 00:40:59,805
that we are dismissing
999
00:40:59,848 --> 00:41:02,503
all charges
against Leo Craddick.
1000
00:41:03,678 --> 00:41:05,506
And, Mr. Craddick,
1001
00:41:05,550 --> 00:41:08,944
I'm so sorry for all
that you've been through.
1002
00:41:08,988 --> 00:41:10,816
ARGAWAL:
Ladies and gentlemen,
1003
00:41:10,859 --> 00:41:14,384
the court thanks the jury
for its service.
1004
00:41:14,428 --> 00:41:17,039
This case is dismissed.
1005
00:41:27,136 --> 00:41:29,399
[crying]
1006
00:41:33,316 --> 00:41:34,622
You were right.
1007
00:41:34,666 --> 00:41:35,971
About which thing?
1008
00:41:36,015 --> 00:41:37,407
Belief perseverance.
1009
00:41:37,451 --> 00:41:38,670
People get an idea
in their head,
1010
00:41:38,713 --> 00:41:40,846
and they see the world
in a certain way.
1011
00:41:40,889 --> 00:41:42,021
Yeah.
1012
00:41:45,241 --> 00:41:48,506
I'll meet you guys outside.
1013
00:41:52,901 --> 00:41:54,860
Excuse me.
1014
00:41:54,903 --> 00:41:56,426
Um,
1015
00:41:56,470 --> 00:41:58,646
sorry to bother you, but I...
I couldn't help but notice
1016
00:41:58,690 --> 00:42:00,430
when the judge
dismissed the case,
1017
00:42:00,474 --> 00:42:02,737
you looked upset.
1018
00:42:03,608 --> 00:42:06,001
No. No big deal.
1019
00:42:06,045 --> 00:42:07,786
I'm just...
1020
00:42:08,830 --> 00:42:11,267
[sighs]
What can I say?
1021
00:42:11,311 --> 00:42:14,401
I was absolutely convinced
1022
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that the man was guilty.
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Hmm.
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Guess I was wrong.
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It happens.
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