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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,831 --> 00:00:06,068 Freeman: From the smallest microbe to the tallest tree, 2 00:00:06,070 --> 00:00:09,872 we think we know life when we see it. 3 00:00:09,874 --> 00:00:14,176 But could life also exist on a vastly different scale... 4 00:00:16,913 --> 00:00:19,948 ...where planets act like single cells, 5 00:00:19,950 --> 00:00:24,753 and black holes reproduce the DNA of space itself? 6 00:00:24,755 --> 00:00:28,423 Could the secrets of the cosmos lie not in physics, 7 00:00:28,425 --> 00:00:30,859 but in biology? 8 00:00:30,861 --> 00:00:34,596 Is the Universe alive? 9 00:00:34,598 --> 00:00:38,598 โ™ช Through the Wormhole 03x03 โ™ช Is the universe alive? Original Air Date on June 13, 2012 10 00:00:38,623 --> 00:00:42,623 == sync, corrected by elderman == 11 00:00:42,636 --> 00:00:47,406 Space, time, life itself. 12 00:00:49,543 --> 00:00:55,181 The secrets of the cosmos lie through the wormhole. 13 00:01:05,626 --> 00:01:09,529 What makes you and me alive? 14 00:01:09,531 --> 00:01:14,300 What makes us different from a rock or a robot? 15 00:01:14,302 --> 00:01:16,602 Is it the beating of our hearts? 16 00:01:16,604 --> 00:01:19,739 The thoughts that race through our heads? 17 00:01:19,741 --> 00:01:24,176 Or is it the fact that we are born, we grow, and we die? 18 00:01:24,178 --> 00:01:25,878 Now some scientists think 19 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:28,714 we might share these fundamentals of life 20 00:01:28,716 --> 00:01:31,617 with something much larger than ourselves. 21 00:01:31,619 --> 00:01:38,991 Could the entire cosmos be a single, living organism? 22 00:01:42,629 --> 00:01:45,164 When I was a kid, on summer nights, 23 00:01:45,166 --> 00:01:46,532 I would often look up 24 00:01:46,534 --> 00:01:51,904 and catch the drifting, flickering glow of fireflies. 25 00:01:51,906 --> 00:01:55,975 They were living points of light. 26 00:01:55,977 --> 00:01:59,312 Beyond them, I saw the stars, too, 27 00:01:59,314 --> 00:02:04,216 flicker in the dark Mississippi sky. 28 00:02:04,218 --> 00:02:08,187 Something about them also seemed living. 29 00:02:08,189 --> 00:02:10,990 To imagine a single living organism 30 00:02:10,992 --> 00:02:13,659 encompassing the entire Universe, 31 00:02:13,661 --> 00:02:16,829 including vast stretches of empty space, 32 00:02:16,831 --> 00:02:18,598 appears to defy logic. 33 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:24,036 But before you dismiss the idea, you have to ask yourself, 34 00:02:24,038 --> 00:02:26,772 what does it really mean to be alive? 35 00:02:26,774 --> 00:02:30,576 In fact, that question has no simple answer. 36 00:02:30,578 --> 00:02:32,612 Schmidhuber: What is life? 37 00:02:32,614 --> 00:02:36,482 There's no convincing definition that everybody agrees upon, 38 00:02:36,484 --> 00:02:37,917 but most people say, 39 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:41,821 if it is alive, then it has to replicate itself. 40 00:02:41,823 --> 00:02:44,023 It has to evolve over time. 41 00:02:44,025 --> 00:02:48,294 However, there are technological devices that also replicate 42 00:02:48,296 --> 00:02:50,563 and evolve over time. 43 00:02:50,565 --> 00:02:52,598 For example, cars. 44 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:55,901 Cars replicate in car factories 45 00:02:55,903 --> 00:02:58,237 according to a set of instructions -- 46 00:02:58,239 --> 00:03:00,539 a little bit like the DNA information 47 00:03:00,541 --> 00:03:03,542 that everybody carries in their cells. 48 00:03:03,544 --> 00:03:07,413 It turns out that if you look at these definitions, 49 00:03:07,415 --> 00:03:09,949 then you will have to admit that even cars are alive. 50 00:03:09,951 --> 00:03:13,419 Freeman: Jurgen Schmidhuber is a Professor 51 00:03:13,421 --> 00:03:17,156 of artificial intelligence in Lugano, Switzerland. 52 00:03:17,158 --> 00:03:20,826 His goal is to push our definitions of life 53 00:03:20,828 --> 00:03:22,361 to new frontiers. 54 00:03:22,363 --> 00:03:26,265 He believes that some robots should be considered alive. 55 00:03:26,267 --> 00:03:29,235 He also believes that a single living organism 56 00:03:29,237 --> 00:03:32,071 can be spread out over more than one body. 57 00:03:32,073 --> 00:03:34,306 This swarm of tiny robots 58 00:03:34,308 --> 00:03:39,145 is programmed to work together like ants in a colony 59 00:03:39,147 --> 00:03:41,847 as a single entity whose collective brain 60 00:03:41,849 --> 00:03:45,351 is distributed among many separate bodies -- 61 00:03:45,353 --> 00:03:48,320 a "super-organism." 62 00:03:48,322 --> 00:03:50,990 Super-organisms can collectively solve problems 63 00:03:50,992 --> 00:03:54,660 that none of the individual ants could solve. 64 00:03:54,662 --> 00:03:57,363 And swarm bots like these collections 65 00:03:57,365 --> 00:04:01,667 of robots each being programmed according to very simple rules, 66 00:04:01,669 --> 00:04:03,636 they can collectively solve problems 67 00:04:03,638 --> 00:04:05,971 that none of the individual robots can solve. 68 00:04:05,973 --> 00:04:09,742 Freeman: Ants find food and signal the presence of danger 69 00:04:09,744 --> 00:04:11,644 by secreting pheromones 70 00:04:11,646 --> 00:04:15,147 that change the behavior of other ants. 71 00:04:15,149 --> 00:04:17,550 Instead of chemicals, 72 00:04:17,552 --> 00:04:21,854 swarm bots exchange simple electronic messages. 73 00:04:21,856 --> 00:04:24,490 Whenever it comes close to some obstacle, 74 00:04:24,492 --> 00:04:27,526 then it shifts its rotation angle a little bit 75 00:04:27,528 --> 00:04:29,328 and moves away. 76 00:04:29,330 --> 00:04:32,264 And whenever two or three swarm bots collide 77 00:04:32,266 --> 00:04:34,066 or come close to each other, 78 00:04:34,068 --> 00:04:36,435 they exchange a bit of information. 79 00:04:36,437 --> 00:04:39,939 For example, you can make them collect in certain clusters. 80 00:04:39,941 --> 00:04:42,074 You can also make them clean rooms 81 00:04:42,076 --> 00:04:45,411 by pushing all the obstacles that you find in this room 82 00:04:45,413 --> 00:04:46,946 into a certain corner. 83 00:04:46,948 --> 00:04:51,250 So many, many simple rules can be thought of 84 00:04:51,252 --> 00:04:53,652 that form a complex emerging behavior 85 00:04:53,654 --> 00:04:56,021 that leads to other, amazing results. 86 00:04:56,023 --> 00:04:58,557 Freeman: If the Universe is alive, 87 00:04:58,559 --> 00:05:03,596 jurgen believes it also must be a super-organism, 88 00:05:03,598 --> 00:05:06,398 spread out across the countless light years of space 89 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:10,102 like a cosmic colony of ants. 90 00:05:10,104 --> 00:05:12,905 But how big can a super-organism get? 91 00:05:18,812 --> 00:05:22,948 Professor Geoffrey West is a distinguished particle physicist 92 00:05:22,950 --> 00:05:25,084 at the Santa Fe Institute. 93 00:05:25,086 --> 00:05:29,255 He believes giant, living beings are all around us. 94 00:05:29,257 --> 00:05:33,359 In fact, most of us live inside them. 95 00:05:33,361 --> 00:05:37,596 I think an essential feature of life is its complex system, 96 00:05:37,598 --> 00:05:41,400 which means it's made up of enormous numbers of components. 97 00:05:41,402 --> 00:05:44,937 But underlying all of that is this idea of metabolism, 98 00:05:44,939 --> 00:05:51,310 in which you use energy, resources to drive the system. 99 00:05:51,312 --> 00:05:54,647 And we see that reflected in cities. 100 00:05:54,649 --> 00:05:56,816 Freeman: In much the same way 101 00:05:56,818 --> 00:05:58,818 that an organism like the human body 102 00:05:58,820 --> 00:06:03,022 is made of cells, bones, and blood vessels, 103 00:06:03,024 --> 00:06:05,191 a super-organism like the city of Los Angeles 104 00:06:05,193 --> 00:06:09,862 is made of people, highways, and power lines. 105 00:06:09,864 --> 00:06:12,364 And just like any biological organism, 106 00:06:12,366 --> 00:06:15,000 energy flows through the body of a city. 107 00:06:15,002 --> 00:06:21,273 West: Cities have many of the characteristics of organisms. 108 00:06:21,275 --> 00:06:24,543 There are network structures like organisms. 109 00:06:24,545 --> 00:06:26,345 They have flows in them -- 110 00:06:26,347 --> 00:06:28,747 everything from automobiles and people 111 00:06:28,749 --> 00:06:31,016 to electricity and other resources. 112 00:06:31,018 --> 00:06:35,721 Just as organisms do, we have, of course, circulatory systems 113 00:06:35,723 --> 00:06:38,591 and respiratory systems and so on. 114 00:06:38,593 --> 00:06:41,293 Freeman: Geoffrey has spent the last few years 115 00:06:41,295 --> 00:06:43,329 working out a mathematical system 116 00:06:43,331 --> 00:06:46,632 that predicts how much energy must flow through a being 117 00:06:46,634 --> 00:06:47,867 for it to be alive, 118 00:06:47,869 --> 00:06:50,703 and how that energy shapes its life. 119 00:06:50,705 --> 00:06:53,539 If you tell me the size of a mammal, 120 00:06:53,541 --> 00:06:56,742 I can tell you its metabolic rate. 121 00:06:56,744 --> 00:06:59,044 Its heart rate, how long it's gonna live, 122 00:06:59,046 --> 00:07:02,114 how many offspring it will have. 123 00:07:02,116 --> 00:07:03,549 Underlying all this 124 00:07:03,551 --> 00:07:06,685 is the mathematics and physics of networks. 125 00:07:06,687 --> 00:07:09,121 Freeman: Seeing living creatures 126 00:07:09,123 --> 00:07:12,391 as nothing more than networks that distribute energy 127 00:07:12,393 --> 00:07:14,526 allows Geoffrey to calculate 128 00:07:14,528 --> 00:07:17,796 that an animal the size of a small rodent 129 00:07:17,798 --> 00:07:22,034 should have a heart rate at around 500 beats per minute. 130 00:07:22,036 --> 00:07:29,541 Whereas a whale heart only pulses once every 10 seconds. 131 00:07:29,543 --> 00:07:33,779 A whale is about 100 million times as heavy as a shrew. 132 00:07:33,781 --> 00:07:35,381 And yet, basically, 133 00:07:35,383 --> 00:07:39,485 we're all the scaled versions of the same thing. 134 00:07:39,487 --> 00:07:45,124 So it's a very natural question that follows from that is, 135 00:07:45,126 --> 00:07:47,059 does any of this work for cities? 136 00:07:47,061 --> 00:07:52,431 Freeman: The answer, according to Geoffrey's calculations, is yes. 137 00:07:52,433 --> 00:07:55,367 Cities distribute energy around their networks of streets 138 00:07:55,369 --> 00:07:56,769 and power lines 139 00:07:56,771 --> 00:08:01,173 according to the very same rules as biological beings. 140 00:08:01,175 --> 00:08:02,875 And cities are so large 141 00:08:02,877 --> 00:08:05,945 that their hearts pulse only twice a day, 142 00:08:05,947 --> 00:08:09,548 with the ebb and flow of commuters. 143 00:08:09,550 --> 00:08:12,117 We have this extraordinary artery 144 00:08:12,119 --> 00:08:15,187 coming through the center of Los Angeles, 145 00:08:15,189 --> 00:08:17,323 the heart of Los Angeles. 146 00:08:17,325 --> 00:08:18,824 And indeed, if you look up, 147 00:08:18,826 --> 00:08:21,827 you see these extraordinary buildings 148 00:08:21,829 --> 00:08:24,863 which, in many ways, acting as a heart 149 00:08:24,865 --> 00:08:27,933 because they represent wealth creation, 150 00:08:27,935 --> 00:08:30,302 and that, of course, is a pump 151 00:08:30,304 --> 00:08:33,439 which helps pump a lot of this traffic. 152 00:08:33,441 --> 00:08:36,275 Freeman: A city like Los Angeles 153 00:08:36,277 --> 00:08:39,611 is a living entity on a colossal scale, 154 00:08:39,613 --> 00:08:43,916 40 miles wide, slowly pulsing with energy. 155 00:08:43,918 --> 00:08:46,485 But no city lives in isolation. 156 00:08:46,487 --> 00:08:49,922 Our entire planet is covered with them. 157 00:08:49,924 --> 00:08:52,992 West: There are, of course, multiple scales. 158 00:08:52,994 --> 00:08:55,828 You know, we can go from the scale of city 159 00:08:55,830 --> 00:09:00,299 to the scale of a country to the scale of the planet. 160 00:09:00,301 --> 00:09:05,671 Freeman: Geoffrey West has learned how to see life on many scales. 161 00:09:05,673 --> 00:09:07,940 When living beings come together, 162 00:09:07,942 --> 00:09:12,945 no matter whether they're ants, humans, or entire metropolises, 163 00:09:12,947 --> 00:09:16,682 what they create takes on a life of its own. 164 00:09:16,684 --> 00:09:21,053 But can this concept make the leap beyond our planet? 165 00:09:21,055 --> 00:09:25,157 Can a super-organism span not just mountain ranges and oceans, 166 00:09:25,159 --> 00:09:28,694 but also vast expanses of outer space? 167 00:09:28,696 --> 00:09:31,130 One physicist thinks it might, 168 00:09:31,132 --> 00:09:33,432 and he believes he has discovered 169 00:09:33,434 --> 00:09:37,102 the heartbeat of the cosmos. 170 00:09:39,459 --> 00:09:43,929 About once every second, our hearts take a beat. 171 00:09:43,931 --> 00:09:45,364 With each pulse, 172 00:09:45,366 --> 00:09:49,501 they deliver oxygen, fluid, and energy to our cells. 173 00:09:49,503 --> 00:09:51,470 If the Universe had a heart, 174 00:09:51,472 --> 00:09:54,239 pumping matter and energy into space, 175 00:09:54,241 --> 00:09:58,410 could we detect its pulse? 176 00:09:58,412 --> 00:10:00,812 [ Jazz music plays ] 177 00:10:02,749 --> 00:10:07,152 Stephon Alexander was born in Trinidad 178 00:10:07,154 --> 00:10:09,621 and raised in the Bronx. 179 00:10:09,623 --> 00:10:12,491 As a saxophonist, he learned to find the melody 180 00:10:12,493 --> 00:10:15,894 that threads through the chaotic notes of a jazz refrain. 181 00:10:15,896 --> 00:10:19,598 And through theoretical physics, Stephon believes he is learning 182 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:23,735 to hear the fundamental beat of the Universe. 183 00:10:23,737 --> 00:10:25,570 It's a wonderful thought to ponder 184 00:10:25,572 --> 00:10:27,739 that the Universe could be a living thing. 185 00:10:27,741 --> 00:10:30,108 I mean, even in biology itself, 186 00:10:30,110 --> 00:10:32,711 biologists are struggling with the definition 187 00:10:32,713 --> 00:10:35,080 and the origin of life itself. 188 00:10:35,082 --> 00:10:37,449 But there should be certain experiments 189 00:10:37,451 --> 00:10:38,784 that look for patterns 190 00:10:38,786 --> 00:10:41,253 that pertain to the function of a living thing. 191 00:10:47,260 --> 00:10:49,895 Freeman: Stephon's research may be leading us 192 00:10:49,897 --> 00:10:52,597 towards finding those patterns in the cosmos itself. 193 00:10:52,599 --> 00:10:56,468 While most cosmologists believe our Universe was created 194 00:10:56,470 --> 00:10:59,738 in an explosive beginning called the Big Bang, 195 00:10:59,740 --> 00:11:05,110 Stephon believes the Big Bang was actually a big bounce. 196 00:11:05,112 --> 00:11:08,814 The big bounce model is, simply put, 197 00:11:08,816 --> 00:11:11,483 a model of the early Universe. 198 00:11:11,485 --> 00:11:15,153 In fact, there was a previous Universe 199 00:11:15,155 --> 00:11:17,355 that underwent collapse 200 00:11:17,357 --> 00:11:19,558 and bounced out into and expand the Universe, 201 00:11:19,560 --> 00:11:21,460 which is the Universe that we inhabit. 202 00:11:21,462 --> 00:11:23,995 Freeman: In Stephon's theory, 203 00:11:23,997 --> 00:11:27,232 the expanding Universe is just one phase 204 00:11:27,234 --> 00:11:31,336 in a never-ending cycle of contraction and expansion, 205 00:11:31,338 --> 00:11:33,105 like a beating heart, 206 00:11:33,107 --> 00:11:37,409 or like the falling and rising of a bouncing handball. 207 00:11:37,411 --> 00:11:39,311 Alexander: So let's observe what happens. 208 00:11:39,313 --> 00:11:40,612 I drop the ball. 209 00:11:40,614 --> 00:11:43,515 Gravity's going to, of course, pull the ball down. 210 00:11:43,517 --> 00:11:47,119 And what happens is that the ball bounces up. 211 00:11:50,923 --> 00:11:53,658 So likewise, the bounced Universe, 212 00:11:53,660 --> 00:11:55,827 under the laws of gravity, will do a similar thing. 213 00:11:55,829 --> 00:11:59,898 It contracts, and it can bounce back into an expanded phase. 214 00:11:59,900 --> 00:12:05,070 Freeman: Most of Stephon's model involves simple physics. 215 00:12:05,072 --> 00:12:07,772 The expanding phase will, sooner or later, 216 00:12:07,774 --> 00:12:11,543 run out of steam, overcome by the attractive force of gravity, 217 00:12:11,545 --> 00:12:14,112 which eventually pulls everything in the Universe 218 00:12:14,114 --> 00:12:17,115 down to a tiny size. 219 00:12:17,117 --> 00:12:20,986 But explaining why the Universe bounces back from this point 220 00:12:20,988 --> 00:12:23,488 is far more complex. 221 00:12:23,490 --> 00:12:26,291 Alexander: One of the problems with the bounce in cosmology 222 00:12:26,293 --> 00:12:28,026 is that you still have to ask a question. 223 00:12:28,028 --> 00:12:32,464 What happens when you bounce? Gravity becomes very strong. 224 00:12:32,466 --> 00:12:35,367 Okay, the gravitational interaction dominates. 225 00:12:35,369 --> 00:12:38,203 That, in fact, would drive us into the singularity. 226 00:12:38,205 --> 00:12:42,607 Freeman: A singularity is a place of infinite density -- 227 00:12:42,609 --> 00:12:45,177 a place where gravity becomes so strong 228 00:12:45,179 --> 00:12:48,146 that it crushes all matter into a single point, 229 00:12:48,148 --> 00:12:53,718 allowing nothing to escape, not even light. 230 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:57,889 Those cosmologists who believe in the Big Bang theory 231 00:12:57,891 --> 00:13:00,158 believe it was a singularity, 232 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:03,762 and they had to invent a new force called inflation 233 00:13:03,764 --> 00:13:08,133 to allow the Universe to expand out from it. 234 00:13:08,135 --> 00:13:11,603 Stephon, on the other hand, thinks the Big Bounce Universe 235 00:13:11,605 --> 00:13:14,973 never shrinks down to a singularity. 236 00:13:14,975 --> 00:13:18,510 As the Universe approaches the bounce point, 237 00:13:18,512 --> 00:13:21,780 it has to, of course, avoid that big bang singularity. 238 00:13:21,782 --> 00:13:23,215 So we have to avoid that problem. 239 00:13:23,217 --> 00:13:26,151 Freeman: The solution, Stephon believes, 240 00:13:26,153 --> 00:13:29,988 is provided by a tiny particle far smaller than an atom 241 00:13:29,990 --> 00:13:34,025 known as the neutrino. 242 00:13:34,027 --> 00:13:36,361 Neutrinos, which are some of the strangest particles 243 00:13:36,363 --> 00:13:37,562 known in physics, 244 00:13:37,564 --> 00:13:39,531 could play a major role 245 00:13:39,533 --> 00:13:43,235 in understanding the bouncing universe scenario. 246 00:13:43,237 --> 00:13:46,137 A neutrino can, just at that moment, 247 00:13:46,139 --> 00:13:48,139 have a repulsive force 248 00:13:48,141 --> 00:13:50,976 that prevents you from crunching into the singularity 249 00:13:50,978 --> 00:13:52,010 and bounce out. 250 00:13:52,012 --> 00:13:56,514 Freeman: Neutrinos have almost no mass, 251 00:13:56,516 --> 00:14:00,885 and they pass through ordinary matter undetected. 252 00:14:00,887 --> 00:14:05,423 50 trillion of these ghostly particles 253 00:14:05,425 --> 00:14:08,393 move right through each of our bodies every second 254 00:14:08,395 --> 00:14:10,028 without our ever knowing it. 255 00:14:10,030 --> 00:14:11,596 Every star in the Universe 256 00:14:11,598 --> 00:14:15,800 spews out a constant stream of neutrinos. 257 00:14:15,802 --> 00:14:19,204 In fact, the Universe is chock full of them, 258 00:14:19,206 --> 00:14:22,607 and they may be what gives the living universe 259 00:14:22,609 --> 00:14:25,477 its steady pulse. 260 00:14:25,479 --> 00:14:28,380 Stephon has calculated 261 00:14:28,382 --> 00:14:32,250 that under the immense pressure of a contracting Universe, 262 00:14:32,252 --> 00:14:34,786 this cosmic sea of neutrinos 263 00:14:34,788 --> 00:14:37,555 would become so tightly squeezed together, 264 00:14:37,557 --> 00:14:40,625 they'd transform into a special state of matter 265 00:14:40,627 --> 00:14:42,594 called a superfluid. 266 00:14:42,596 --> 00:14:46,531 Alexander: A superfluid state is well-known to us. 267 00:14:46,533 --> 00:14:49,200 Liquid helium is an example of a superfluid. 268 00:14:49,202 --> 00:14:51,836 One of the strange properties of a superfluid 269 00:14:51,838 --> 00:14:54,205 is that, if you try to contain it, 270 00:14:54,207 --> 00:14:58,610 it will still flow out, out of the edges of the container. 271 00:14:58,612 --> 00:15:00,979 It doesn't like to be contained. 272 00:15:00,981 --> 00:15:04,616 This tendency for a neutrino to not be contained 273 00:15:04,618 --> 00:15:07,619 causes a repulsive pressure 274 00:15:07,621 --> 00:15:11,790 and causes the Universe to bounce and expand. 275 00:15:16,896 --> 00:15:19,097 Freeman: If Stephon's idea is right, 276 00:15:19,099 --> 00:15:21,599 our Universe has been going through cycles 277 00:15:21,601 --> 00:15:25,170 of expansion and contraction for trillions of years. 278 00:15:25,172 --> 00:15:26,905 At each bounce, 279 00:15:26,907 --> 00:15:30,608 most of the matter, including any stars or galaxies, 280 00:15:30,610 --> 00:15:35,780 is crushed and then spat out in completely new form. 281 00:15:35,782 --> 00:15:38,416 But neutrinos survive unscathed. 282 00:15:38,418 --> 00:15:40,952 This invisible sea of particles 283 00:15:40,954 --> 00:15:43,788 is the lifeblood of the Universe, 284 00:15:43,790 --> 00:15:46,257 the fluid that drives its pulse. 285 00:15:46,259 --> 00:15:49,994 Or, if you prefer, neutrinos propel the cosmos 286 00:15:49,996 --> 00:15:53,631 from one phase of its life cycle to the next. 287 00:15:53,633 --> 00:15:56,301 A good analogy for the big bounce 288 00:15:56,303 --> 00:15:59,637 is like a caterpillar becoming a butterfly. 289 00:15:59,639 --> 00:16:04,075 You have the caterpillar that emerges as a butterfly 290 00:16:04,077 --> 00:16:06,778 that looks completely different, 291 00:16:06,780 --> 00:16:08,513 but has the same genetic cold 292 00:16:08,515 --> 00:16:10,648 and is made up of the same stuff. 293 00:16:10,650 --> 00:16:14,185 So in that sense, the analogy from biology of metamorphosis, 294 00:16:14,187 --> 00:16:18,556 I think, is quite applicable here and worth pursuing. 295 00:16:18,558 --> 00:16:21,059 Freeman: Stephon's big bounce model 296 00:16:21,061 --> 00:16:25,830 portrays our cosmos as a dynamic, evolving entity -- 297 00:16:25,832 --> 00:16:28,500 something that could be alive. 298 00:16:28,502 --> 00:16:33,138 And another scientist has taken this idea one step further. 299 00:16:33,140 --> 00:16:34,672 He thinks our Universe 300 00:16:34,674 --> 00:16:38,343 has given birth to a whole family of cosmic offspring -- 301 00:16:38,345 --> 00:16:40,011 universes that lay hidden 302 00:16:40,013 --> 00:16:44,349 behind the dark horizons of black holes. 303 00:16:48,446 --> 00:16:52,650 All living things share one common feature -- 304 00:16:52,652 --> 00:16:55,285 they've all come from something. 305 00:16:55,287 --> 00:16:58,255 The oak tree rises from the acorn 306 00:16:58,257 --> 00:17:00,724 which fell from another oak. 307 00:17:00,726 --> 00:17:05,729 The human family tree dates back many thousands of generations. 308 00:17:05,731 --> 00:17:10,567 If our Universe is alive, does it have an ancestor? 309 00:17:10,569 --> 00:17:16,674 And could it give birth to other universes? 310 00:17:16,676 --> 00:17:20,678 Lee Smolin conducts research 311 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:23,280 at the Perimeter Institute for Theoretical Physics 312 00:17:23,282 --> 00:17:25,449 in Waterloo, Canada. 313 00:17:25,451 --> 00:17:27,017 Lee thinks about the laws of physics 314 00:17:27,019 --> 00:17:30,120 at the most fundamental level. 315 00:17:30,122 --> 00:17:34,191 He's trying to understand how our Universe ended up 316 00:17:34,193 --> 00:17:36,694 with the particular laws of physics it has. 317 00:17:36,696 --> 00:17:39,830 The laws of nature appear to be fine-tuned 318 00:17:39,832 --> 00:17:43,000 so that the Universe is hospitable to life. 319 00:17:43,002 --> 00:17:44,668 If you consider what would happen 320 00:17:44,670 --> 00:17:47,204 if you change the laws of nature even slightly, 321 00:17:47,206 --> 00:17:50,040 then the Universe would cease to be friendly to life. 322 00:17:50,042 --> 00:17:51,642 So there is something -- 323 00:17:51,644 --> 00:17:55,379 there's a mystery about why the Universe is so hospitable, 324 00:17:55,381 --> 00:17:57,448 why it's so friendly to biology. 325 00:17:57,450 --> 00:18:01,118 Freeman: Cosmologists have long wrestled with this puzzle 326 00:18:01,120 --> 00:18:04,254 which they call fine tuning. 327 00:18:04,256 --> 00:18:06,590 If any of the forces of nature 328 00:18:06,592 --> 00:18:10,094 were stronger or weaker by a fraction of 1%, 329 00:18:10,096 --> 00:18:13,163 stars and galaxies would never form. 330 00:18:13,165 --> 00:18:15,566 Even atoms might not exist. 331 00:18:15,568 --> 00:18:19,303 To some, this is a sign that our Universe 332 00:18:19,305 --> 00:18:23,307 was carefully crafted by the hand of a creator 333 00:18:23,309 --> 00:18:27,311 who tailor-made it to support human life. 334 00:18:27,313 --> 00:18:33,584 But Lee wanted a more scientific explanation, and he found one. 335 00:18:33,586 --> 00:18:34,918 Not rooted in physics, 336 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:39,356 but in the biological theory of evolution. 337 00:18:39,358 --> 00:18:42,059 In natural selection, you explain 338 00:18:42,061 --> 00:18:44,194 how while the intricacy and structure of life 339 00:18:44,196 --> 00:18:45,496 arises progressively, 340 00:18:45,498 --> 00:18:48,165 you have something which is very improbable. 341 00:18:48,167 --> 00:18:50,501 There's a method to explain it. 342 00:18:50,503 --> 00:18:55,773 Freeman: Evolutionists believe that creatures as complex as humans 343 00:18:55,775 --> 00:19:00,410 did not just miraculously pop into existence. 344 00:19:00,412 --> 00:19:02,880 But rather, evolved through countless steps 345 00:19:02,882 --> 00:19:05,682 from ever-simpler organisms. 346 00:19:05,684 --> 00:19:10,254 Likewise, Lee wondered whether our immensely complex universe 347 00:19:10,256 --> 00:19:15,692 was also shaped by a cosmic version of biological evolution. 348 00:19:15,694 --> 00:19:18,028 Could the Universe have a history? 349 00:19:18,030 --> 00:19:19,596 Could it have ancestors? 350 00:19:19,598 --> 00:19:23,467 Has it evolved through its history? 351 00:19:23,469 --> 00:19:26,703 Could there have been random variation of laws, 352 00:19:26,705 --> 00:19:29,106 and then selection of those laws, 353 00:19:29,108 --> 00:19:31,675 selecting those that introduced the most structure, 354 00:19:31,677 --> 00:19:32,810 the most complexity. 355 00:19:32,812 --> 00:19:34,912 So I asked myself that as a question, 356 00:19:34,914 --> 00:19:39,183 and cosmological natural selection is one answer to it. 357 00:19:39,185 --> 00:19:41,418 It's the best answer to it so far, I know. 358 00:19:41,420 --> 00:19:44,855 Freeman: But in order for Lee's theory 359 00:19:44,857 --> 00:19:47,925 of cosmological natural selection to work, 360 00:19:47,927 --> 00:19:51,361 there has to be a mechanism by which an entire cosmos 361 00:19:51,363 --> 00:19:54,364 can reproduce and undergo mutation, 362 00:19:54,366 --> 00:19:57,801 the way DNA does from parent to child. 363 00:19:57,803 --> 00:19:59,636 Smolin: So you need a mode of reproduction. 364 00:19:59,638 --> 00:20:00,904 You need variation. 365 00:20:00,906 --> 00:20:03,574 You need something that determines the properties 366 00:20:03,576 --> 00:20:05,642 to vary from instance to instance, 367 00:20:05,644 --> 00:20:07,311 from ancestor to child. 368 00:20:07,313 --> 00:20:09,313 And then you need selection. 369 00:20:09,315 --> 00:20:13,183 So what could be those elements in cosmology? 370 00:20:13,185 --> 00:20:15,786 Freeman: The answer to all these questions, 371 00:20:15,788 --> 00:20:20,791 Lee believes, lies in the hidden hearts of black holes, 372 00:20:20,793 --> 00:20:24,061 where the known laws of physics break down, 373 00:20:24,063 --> 00:20:26,530 and the as-yet-unknown laws 374 00:20:26,532 --> 00:20:30,734 of a theory called quantum gravity take over. 375 00:20:30,736 --> 00:20:34,404 When a giant star explodes, our current theories predict 376 00:20:34,406 --> 00:20:37,841 that its core should collapse down to a single point 377 00:20:37,843 --> 00:20:39,843 and become infinitely dense. 378 00:20:39,845 --> 00:20:43,881 But Lee's pioneering efforts to understand quantum gravity 379 00:20:43,883 --> 00:20:46,717 suggest it does not, 380 00:20:46,719 --> 00:20:48,085 and that instead, 381 00:20:48,087 --> 00:20:51,221 this is the moment an entire new Universe is born. 382 00:20:51,223 --> 00:20:54,658 Smolin: The star that formed a black hole is collapsing, 383 00:20:54,660 --> 00:20:57,728 and just before it would become infinitely dense, 384 00:20:57,730 --> 00:21:00,230 it bounces and begins expanding again. 385 00:21:00,232 --> 00:21:03,033 And you can evolve new regions of space-time 386 00:21:03,035 --> 00:21:07,337 still within the confines of the horizon of the black hole. 387 00:21:07,339 --> 00:21:09,840 But this region could grow and become large 388 00:21:09,842 --> 00:21:12,242 like our universe did after the Big Bang. 389 00:21:12,244 --> 00:21:19,082 Freeman: The dimensions of space and time of these new universes 390 00:21:19,084 --> 00:21:22,786 branch off from ours inside the black hole. 391 00:21:22,788 --> 00:21:25,622 Smolin: The laws of physics change when that happens 392 00:21:25,624 --> 00:21:27,090 at this very violent event, 393 00:21:27,092 --> 00:21:30,227 so that the parent resembles the children, 394 00:21:30,229 --> 00:21:33,397 and the children's children resemble them, 395 00:21:33,399 --> 00:21:35,232 but there are small changes. 396 00:21:35,234 --> 00:21:37,234 It works just like biology. 397 00:21:37,236 --> 00:21:39,970 You have a population of universes. 398 00:21:39,972 --> 00:21:43,840 They give rise to progeny through black holes, 399 00:21:43,842 --> 00:21:47,945 and if you ask what laws are most successful, 400 00:21:47,947 --> 00:21:49,313 those are the laws 401 00:21:49,315 --> 00:21:52,115 that lead to universes that have the most black holes. 402 00:21:52,117 --> 00:21:54,751 So what you get, generation by generation, 403 00:21:54,753 --> 00:21:56,486 is selection for the tendency 404 00:21:56,488 --> 00:21:59,022 to make as many black holes as possible. 405 00:22:05,229 --> 00:22:07,497 Freeman: Our Universe might exist 406 00:22:07,499 --> 00:22:10,067 on an ever-growing cosmic tree of life. 407 00:22:10,069 --> 00:22:13,637 But this is not the most remarkable aspect 408 00:22:13,639 --> 00:22:17,874 of Lee's theory of cosmological natural selection. 409 00:22:17,876 --> 00:22:20,677 As he explored which laws of physics 410 00:22:20,679 --> 00:22:24,247 allow a baby universe to produce more offspring, 411 00:22:24,249 --> 00:22:26,316 he discovered an uncanny connection 412 00:22:26,318 --> 00:22:32,122 between the cosmic tree of life and our own biological one. 413 00:22:32,124 --> 00:22:35,792 Smolin: To make black holes, you need very massive stars. 414 00:22:35,794 --> 00:22:39,162 You need stars of 20 times the mass of the sun or more. 415 00:22:39,164 --> 00:22:40,864 And to make these, 416 00:22:40,866 --> 00:22:44,701 you need big clouds of gas and dust that are cooled. 417 00:22:44,703 --> 00:22:48,205 So the coolant turns out to be carbon monoxide. 418 00:22:48,207 --> 00:22:51,575 And so you need carbon, and you need oxygen, 419 00:22:51,577 --> 00:22:55,278 which are the two atoms that you need most plentifully for life. 420 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:58,448 And in fact, the universe has lots and lots of carbon 421 00:22:58,450 --> 00:23:00,484 and lots and lots of oxygen, 422 00:23:00,486 --> 00:23:04,121 so the explanation for why the universe is bio-friendly 423 00:23:04,123 --> 00:23:10,327 is a side effect of the universe being very fruitful 424 00:23:10,329 --> 00:23:12,829 in terms of its own reproduction. 425 00:23:12,831 --> 00:23:14,598 And I find that very endearing. 426 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:16,633 Freeman: If Lee is correct, 427 00:23:16,635 --> 00:23:19,803 the laws of physics we know have been fine-tuned 428 00:23:19,805 --> 00:23:22,739 in order to keep the cosmos fertile 429 00:23:22,741 --> 00:23:25,609 for its own reproduction. 430 00:23:25,611 --> 00:23:28,979 Those same laws also happen to make our universe 431 00:23:28,981 --> 00:23:34,684 a place where carbon-based life can flourish. 432 00:23:34,686 --> 00:23:38,088 Our universe may be just one member 433 00:23:38,090 --> 00:23:41,491 of a giant family tree of cosmoses. 434 00:23:41,493 --> 00:23:44,594 Since we can't see outside our universe, 435 00:23:44,596 --> 00:23:47,864 this idea will likely remain hard to prove, 436 00:23:47,866 --> 00:23:50,867 but there is one other way 437 00:23:50,869 --> 00:23:54,404 we could determine whether the universe is alive. 438 00:23:54,406 --> 00:23:57,007 We could find its brain. 439 00:24:01,073 --> 00:24:04,275 What does it take to think? 440 00:24:04,620 --> 00:24:10,024 Inside my head is a network of several billion buzzing neurons. 441 00:24:10,026 --> 00:24:11,559 In a computer, 442 00:24:11,561 --> 00:24:16,931 electrical pulses scurry across a maze of microscopic circuits. 443 00:24:16,933 --> 00:24:22,336 Now some scientists are building computers out of atoms, 444 00:24:22,338 --> 00:24:27,041 deriving logic from the laws of quantum mechanics. 445 00:24:27,043 --> 00:24:31,612 Since those laws apply to the entire universe, 446 00:24:31,614 --> 00:24:35,583 why couldn't the universe think? 447 00:24:35,585 --> 00:24:39,453 At M.I.T., Seth Lloyd welcomes us 448 00:24:39,455 --> 00:24:43,858 into the weird and wondrous world of quantum computing. 449 00:24:43,860 --> 00:24:46,694 This is a machine that calculates in a way 450 00:24:46,696 --> 00:24:50,931 that will one day leave our current computers in the dust. 451 00:24:50,933 --> 00:24:52,500 It is based on the idea 452 00:24:52,502 --> 00:24:58,205 that atoms and every subatomic particle can think. 453 00:24:58,207 --> 00:25:00,708 Every atom, every elementary particle 454 00:25:00,710 --> 00:25:02,443 stores bits of information. 455 00:25:02,445 --> 00:25:04,945 So electrons spinning like that is 0, 456 00:25:04,947 --> 00:25:06,847 electrons spinning like that is 1. 457 00:25:06,849 --> 00:25:09,750 And every time two particles collide, 458 00:25:09,752 --> 00:25:12,686 those bits get flipped and processed. 459 00:25:12,688 --> 00:25:15,756 Freeman: The key to a quantum computer's power 460 00:25:15,758 --> 00:25:19,126 is that it can think more than one thing at a time. 461 00:25:19,128 --> 00:25:21,962 But to understand how that can be, 462 00:25:21,964 --> 00:25:23,964 we need to comprehend 463 00:25:23,966 --> 00:25:27,134 the strange science of quantum mechanics. 464 00:25:27,136 --> 00:25:29,703 The key thing to remember about quantum mechanics 465 00:25:29,705 --> 00:25:31,672 is that quantum mechanics is weird. 466 00:25:31,674 --> 00:25:33,274 This is a technical term. 467 00:25:33,276 --> 00:25:35,543 It means funky, counterintuitive. 468 00:25:35,545 --> 00:25:38,145 It's like the James Brown of sciences. 469 00:25:38,814 --> 00:25:42,916 You don't know what's going on or what's gonna happen next. 470 00:25:42,918 --> 00:25:44,985 Freeman: For the last 100 years, 471 00:25:44,987 --> 00:25:48,455 as scientists have studied nature at the microscopic level, 472 00:25:48,457 --> 00:25:50,991 they have noticed that particles can actually exist 473 00:25:50,993 --> 00:25:53,427 in more than one place at the same time. 474 00:25:53,429 --> 00:25:57,765 And while they have struggled to explain why this should happen, 475 00:25:57,767 --> 00:26:00,701 Seth and his colleagues in quantum computing 476 00:26:00,703 --> 00:26:04,271 have simply accepted it and used it to their advantage. 477 00:26:04,273 --> 00:26:07,608 I will now use this sophisticated lite-brite device 478 00:26:07,610 --> 00:26:11,278 to demonstrate the difference between classical computers 479 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:12,780 and quantum computers. 480 00:26:12,782 --> 00:26:15,849 So in any computer, classical or quantum, 481 00:26:15,851 --> 00:26:18,852 a bit can be represented by electron over here. 482 00:26:18,854 --> 00:26:21,255 Now, in a classical computer, 483 00:26:21,257 --> 00:26:30,130 the electron is either over here, 0, or over there, 1. 484 00:26:30,132 --> 00:26:34,034 It is definitely not 0 and 1 at the same time. 485 00:26:34,036 --> 00:26:36,436 But in a quantum computer, 486 00:26:36,438 --> 00:26:41,275 electrons very happily are both 0 and 1 at the same time. 487 00:26:41,277 --> 00:26:43,710 To see how this affects computation, 488 00:26:43,712 --> 00:26:49,550 let's suppose that electron over here says, "do this. 489 00:26:49,552 --> 00:26:51,585 "Let's tell all these other bits 490 00:26:51,587 --> 00:26:56,223 to make some interesting pattern." 491 00:26:56,225 --> 00:26:58,926 And now you see what we have 492 00:26:58,928 --> 00:27:01,094 is we don't just have one bit 493 00:27:01,096 --> 00:27:04,464 that is doing this and that at the same time, 494 00:27:04,466 --> 00:27:07,968 we have many, many bits 495 00:27:07,970 --> 00:27:12,606 that are doing this and that at the same time. 496 00:27:12,608 --> 00:27:16,143 So the quantum computer is doing two computations 497 00:27:16,145 --> 00:27:19,413 in some funky quantum sense at the same time. 498 00:27:19,415 --> 00:27:22,416 And, hey, there's no reason to stop there. 499 00:27:22,418 --> 00:27:25,285 Quantum computer is completely happy 500 00:27:25,287 --> 00:27:28,522 doing 100 or 1,000 or a billion 501 00:27:28,524 --> 00:27:31,191 or as many things as there are elementary particles 502 00:27:31,193 --> 00:27:34,294 in the universe, all at the same time. 503 00:27:34,296 --> 00:27:36,263 The more, the merrier. 504 00:27:36,265 --> 00:27:39,366 Freeman: Seth has spent the last two decades 505 00:27:39,368 --> 00:27:42,769 making this ordered rearrangement of quantum bits 506 00:27:42,771 --> 00:27:45,505 work in a real device, 507 00:27:45,507 --> 00:27:50,410 one that can do real calculations. 508 00:27:50,412 --> 00:27:52,579 The heart of this quantum computer 509 00:27:52,581 --> 00:27:54,314 is chilled with liquid helium 510 00:27:54,316 --> 00:27:57,150 and consists of a small, superconducting 511 00:27:57,152 --> 00:27:59,887 electrical circuit known as a cubit. 512 00:27:59,889 --> 00:28:02,956 Lloyd: This cubit is a little, tiny thing. 513 00:28:02,958 --> 00:28:07,261 It sits in a tiny little gold package like this, 514 00:28:07,263 --> 00:28:10,664 and in the middle of it, there's a tiny little circuit 515 00:28:10,666 --> 00:28:14,034 which a supercurrent can go around like this forever, 516 00:28:14,036 --> 00:28:16,603 or it can go around like that forever. 517 00:28:16,605 --> 00:28:21,041 So we call supercurrent going around like this 0 518 00:28:21,043 --> 00:28:24,945 and supercurrent going around like that 1 519 00:28:24,947 --> 00:28:28,482 and supercurrent going around this way and that way 520 00:28:28,484 --> 00:28:31,485 at the same time 0 and 1 at the same time. 521 00:28:31,487 --> 00:28:35,022 All this rack of expensive equipment here 522 00:28:35,024 --> 00:28:37,658 is designed to talk to the cubit 523 00:28:37,660 --> 00:28:40,627 by sending microwave signals to it, 524 00:28:40,629 --> 00:28:42,562 to tickle it and massage it. 525 00:28:42,564 --> 00:28:46,300 My job as a quantum mechanical engineer 526 00:28:46,302 --> 00:28:50,003 is kind of like a quantum atomic masseur. 527 00:28:50,005 --> 00:28:54,074 We massage these molecules in a bunch of different ways. 528 00:28:54,076 --> 00:28:56,710 And if you massage the molecule the right way, 529 00:28:56,712 --> 00:28:58,845 you can get this wiggling and jiggling 530 00:28:58,847 --> 00:29:01,381 so that it's actually performing a computation. 531 00:29:01,383 --> 00:29:04,584 So the molecule, as it relaxes and sighs, 532 00:29:04,586 --> 00:29:05,886 "oh, that feels so good," 533 00:29:05,888 --> 00:29:09,389 says, "oh, if you really want me to multiply 3 times 5, 534 00:29:09,391 --> 00:29:12,893 I'll do it for you." 535 00:29:12,895 --> 00:29:17,464 Freeman: Quantum computing is still in its infancy. 536 00:29:17,466 --> 00:29:19,900 In fact, multiplying 3 times 5 537 00:29:19,902 --> 00:29:24,304 is the most complex computation Seth's machine has ever done. 538 00:29:24,306 --> 00:29:27,507 But Seth argues that his computer proves 539 00:29:27,509 --> 00:29:30,410 that subatomic particles can think, 540 00:29:30,412 --> 00:29:31,845 and that the universe, 541 00:29:31,847 --> 00:29:34,614 which is entirely built from such particles, 542 00:29:34,616 --> 00:29:36,984 must also be a quantum computer. 543 00:29:36,986 --> 00:29:39,820 It processes and stores information 544 00:29:39,822 --> 00:29:43,190 at the microscopic level on everything we see around us. 545 00:29:43,192 --> 00:29:46,860 And if the universe is processing information, 546 00:29:46,862 --> 00:29:52,532 then it must be thinking, and it must be alive. 547 00:29:52,534 --> 00:29:54,668 The universe is not alive. 548 00:29:54,670 --> 00:29:56,470 It's more than alive. 549 00:29:56,472 --> 00:29:57,704 It contains life. 550 00:29:57,706 --> 00:30:00,741 It does all the things that living things do. 551 00:30:00,743 --> 00:30:01,975 It processes information. 552 00:30:01,977 --> 00:30:04,077 It moves energy from one place to another. 553 00:30:04,079 --> 00:30:06,613 The different pieces of it can reproduce each other. 554 00:30:06,615 --> 00:30:08,315 But the Universe as a whole 555 00:30:08,317 --> 00:30:11,618 can do much more than just what living things can do. 556 00:30:11,620 --> 00:30:16,323 Freeman: The human brain can perform about 10 to the power of 16, 557 00:30:16,325 --> 00:30:20,560 or 10 million billion computations in a second. 558 00:30:20,562 --> 00:30:22,229 In the same time, 559 00:30:22,231 --> 00:30:24,464 Seth believes the universe performs 560 00:30:24,466 --> 00:30:28,502 about 10 to the power of 106 computations, 561 00:30:28,504 --> 00:30:30,170 which makes the universe 562 00:30:30,172 --> 00:30:33,707 impossibly smarter than we can ever imagine. 563 00:30:33,709 --> 00:30:37,210 Lloyd: If the universe is behaving like a giant quantum computer, 564 00:30:37,212 --> 00:30:39,846 and let's face it, it is, 565 00:30:39,848 --> 00:30:46,420 then it's capable of any kind of complex behavior we can imagine. 566 00:30:46,422 --> 00:30:50,624 Not just creation of stars and planets, 567 00:30:50,626 --> 00:30:52,959 the evolution of life, 568 00:30:52,961 --> 00:30:55,529 it's also capable of behavior 569 00:30:55,531 --> 00:30:58,832 that we probably will never be able to comprehend. 570 00:30:58,834 --> 00:31:04,871 Freeman: The universe could be the ultimate intelligent organism. 571 00:31:04,873 --> 00:31:10,143 And if the cosmos really does think like a quantum computer, 572 00:31:10,145 --> 00:31:14,981 then Jurgen Schmidhuber is ready to take the next logical step -- 573 00:31:14,983 --> 00:31:17,651 to read its mind. 574 00:31:23,332 --> 00:31:25,867 Some scientists now believe 575 00:31:25,869 --> 00:31:29,704 our universe is an enormous quantum computer, 576 00:31:29,706 --> 00:31:31,539 processing information 577 00:31:31,541 --> 00:31:34,709 on a scale that dwarfs human thinking. 578 00:31:34,711 --> 00:31:37,479 If that is the case, 579 00:31:37,481 --> 00:31:41,583 is it possible to discover what it has already computed 580 00:31:41,585 --> 00:31:46,921 and see inside the mind of the cosmos? 581 00:31:46,923 --> 00:31:50,625 For centuries, great minds like Newton and Einstein 582 00:31:50,627 --> 00:31:52,293 have tried to discover 583 00:31:52,295 --> 00:31:55,664 the underlying physical laws of the Universe. 584 00:31:55,666 --> 00:31:59,267 But seeing the cosmos as a colossal computation 585 00:31:59,269 --> 00:32:04,239 opens up a novel way to understand it. 586 00:32:04,441 --> 00:32:08,509 Back at the Swiss Artificial Intelligence Lab, 587 00:32:08,511 --> 00:32:11,713 Jurgen Schmidhuber is not only preparing 588 00:32:11,715 --> 00:32:14,082 to unleash hives of swarm robots. 589 00:32:14,084 --> 00:32:17,952 He has another, far more ambitious agenda. 590 00:32:17,954 --> 00:32:22,590 He wants to re-create the Universe in a computer. 591 00:32:22,592 --> 00:32:25,193 Could it be that the entire universe, 592 00:32:25,195 --> 00:32:27,128 everything that we see around us, 593 00:32:27,130 --> 00:32:29,497 is maybe just following very simple rules? 594 00:32:29,499 --> 00:32:30,965 The rules of physics, 595 00:32:30,967 --> 00:32:33,401 which are partially already known, 596 00:32:33,403 --> 00:32:36,237 but which might actually be program-like, 597 00:32:36,239 --> 00:32:40,475 as if the entire universe is just a huge video game. 598 00:32:40,477 --> 00:32:42,176 Freeman: Jurgen believes 599 00:32:42,178 --> 00:32:46,648 that even though the size of our video game universe is immense, 600 00:32:46,650 --> 00:32:48,149 the program that creates it 601 00:32:48,151 --> 00:32:51,119 does not have to be complex at all. 602 00:32:51,121 --> 00:32:52,587 Just as in art, 603 00:32:52,589 --> 00:32:57,558 a few basic curves can create a pattern of great complexity. 604 00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:01,729 There is a very short program that makes this pattern, 605 00:33:01,731 --> 00:33:04,065 and I can re-use it again and again 606 00:33:04,067 --> 00:33:08,703 to make this slightly more complex pattern. 607 00:33:11,674 --> 00:33:14,542 Only very few of the circles are used 608 00:33:14,544 --> 00:33:17,845 to define every little detail of this drawing 609 00:33:17,847 --> 00:33:21,616 which means that the final drawing, this one here, 610 00:33:21,618 --> 00:33:25,653 can be encoded by a very simple program 611 00:33:25,655 --> 00:33:30,224 that can be written down in three or four lines of code. 612 00:33:30,226 --> 00:33:34,696 Freeman: The entire universe is nothing more than the pattern of atoms. 613 00:33:34,698 --> 00:33:36,631 So if we could find a simple program 614 00:33:36,633 --> 00:33:38,866 that re-creates that shape in a simulation, 615 00:33:38,868 --> 00:33:43,171 Jurgen believes we could understand all of physics 616 00:33:43,173 --> 00:33:46,808 and the entire history of the cosmos. 617 00:33:46,810 --> 00:33:49,944 Schmidhuber: So if we had this short program that computes this universe, 618 00:33:49,946 --> 00:33:52,046 then of course, we could replicate 619 00:33:52,048 --> 00:33:54,916 every single event that ever happened within it. 620 00:33:54,918 --> 00:33:57,986 Especially would, in principle, be able to figure out 621 00:33:57,988 --> 00:34:00,688 what exactly happened during the Big Bang 622 00:34:00,690 --> 00:34:02,056 and then afterwards. 623 00:34:05,894 --> 00:34:10,231 Freeman: But as you might expect, this is not a trivial project, 624 00:34:10,233 --> 00:34:13,534 because to test any program you might write, 625 00:34:13,536 --> 00:34:15,837 you have to let its calculations 626 00:34:15,839 --> 00:34:19,307 run through a few billion years of cosmic time. 627 00:34:19,309 --> 00:34:22,210 And then compare its simulation 628 00:34:22,212 --> 00:34:25,646 with how our universe actually looks. 629 00:34:25,648 --> 00:34:29,917 The main problem is that to run this code again, 630 00:34:29,919 --> 00:34:31,586 we need a big computer, 631 00:34:31,588 --> 00:34:35,490 but it would be much smaller than the universe itself, 632 00:34:35,492 --> 00:34:38,126 which means that it would take a long, long time 633 00:34:38,128 --> 00:34:40,962 to replicate what the Universe has computed 634 00:34:40,964 --> 00:34:44,098 within 14 billion years. 635 00:34:44,100 --> 00:34:48,269 Freeman: But Jurgen isn't throwing in the towel just yet. 636 00:34:48,271 --> 00:34:51,372 He is putting all his strength and energy 637 00:34:51,374 --> 00:34:56,344 into building stronger, faster, more intelligent machines. 638 00:34:56,346 --> 00:34:58,813 Schmidhuber: When I was a boy, I wanted to become a physicist. 639 00:34:58,815 --> 00:35:01,215 However, then I realized 640 00:35:01,217 --> 00:35:04,385 there is something even more productive that I could do. 641 00:35:04,387 --> 00:35:07,155 I could try to build a physicist, 642 00:35:07,157 --> 00:35:09,190 or a scientist in general, 643 00:35:09,192 --> 00:35:12,193 that is much smarter than I could ever hope to be, 644 00:35:12,195 --> 00:35:16,464 then I could let this guy do the remaining work. 645 00:35:16,466 --> 00:35:19,967 That's why I would like to build an optimal scientist. 646 00:35:19,969 --> 00:35:23,071 Freeman: We can already build robots that are stronger than us. 647 00:35:23,073 --> 00:35:24,639 Assuming our computers 648 00:35:24,641 --> 00:35:26,641 keep getting faster at the current rate, 649 00:35:26,643 --> 00:35:29,744 it will not be long before we can also program robots 650 00:35:29,746 --> 00:35:33,247 to beat us in any mental contest. 651 00:35:33,249 --> 00:35:36,217 Schmidhuber: At some point, we will have robot brains 652 00:35:36,219 --> 00:35:40,388 and computers that are not only as powerful as a human brain, 653 00:35:40,390 --> 00:35:43,524 but as powerful as all human brains taken together. 654 00:35:43,526 --> 00:35:45,793 Freeman: It might seem far-fetched 655 00:35:45,795 --> 00:35:49,263 that a swarm of futuristic robots will devote themselves 656 00:35:49,265 --> 00:35:52,567 to the task of finding the program of the universe, 657 00:35:52,569 --> 00:35:56,237 but just think what finding the answer would mean. 658 00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:59,407 Schmidhuber: If we knew the shortest code, 659 00:35:59,409 --> 00:36:02,910 or that short program that computes this universe, 660 00:36:02,912 --> 00:36:06,881 then we would have answered the essential question 661 00:36:06,883 --> 00:36:10,718 of theoretical physics, namely, how does the world work? 662 00:36:10,720 --> 00:36:15,690 So we would solve the fundamental question of physics. 663 00:36:15,692 --> 00:36:18,893 Freeman: Understanding the fundamental rules of physics 664 00:36:18,895 --> 00:36:20,761 from which the universe is built 665 00:36:20,763 --> 00:36:24,098 has driven science for thousands of years. 666 00:36:24,100 --> 00:36:28,136 It inspired great minds like Newton and Einstein. 667 00:36:28,138 --> 00:36:31,205 It drove us to venture into space, 668 00:36:31,207 --> 00:36:34,709 and it is the goal of enormous atom-smashing projects 669 00:36:34,711 --> 00:36:37,445 like the Large Hadron Collider in Geneva. 670 00:36:37,447 --> 00:36:42,049 But Jurgen Schmidhuber's work in computation and robotics, 671 00:36:42,051 --> 00:36:43,484 inspired by the idea 672 00:36:43,486 --> 00:36:46,254 that the cosmos is a living, thinking machine, 673 00:36:46,256 --> 00:36:52,260 may be the only way to truly make sense of the Universe. 674 00:36:52,262 --> 00:36:57,498 Or, all of these efforts may be a waste of time 675 00:36:57,500 --> 00:37:00,101 because one renegade scientist 676 00:37:00,103 --> 00:37:03,971 believes we've gotten it all turned around. 677 00:37:03,973 --> 00:37:07,375 We don't need to find the mind of our universe. 678 00:37:07,377 --> 00:37:08,676 The entire cosmos 679 00:37:08,678 --> 00:37:12,847 is nothing more than a figment of our imagination. 680 00:37:19,183 --> 00:37:23,854 How can I know what's going on inside your mind? 681 00:37:24,332 --> 00:37:29,135 How do I even know that you actually exist at all? 682 00:37:29,137 --> 00:37:32,405 It is possible that you are nothing more 683 00:37:32,407 --> 00:37:35,341 than the product of my imagination. 684 00:37:35,343 --> 00:37:39,011 In fact, you and I could both be imagining 685 00:37:39,013 --> 00:37:41,781 everything we see around us. 686 00:37:41,783 --> 00:37:47,319 Could we each be dreaming our own private universe? 687 00:37:47,321 --> 00:37:52,191 Dr. Robert Lanza has always been 688 00:37:52,193 --> 00:37:55,361 on the controversial side of science. 689 00:37:55,363 --> 00:37:58,130 He was the first stem cell researcher 690 00:37:58,132 --> 00:38:01,434 to actually clone an early stage human embryo. 691 00:38:01,436 --> 00:38:06,939 Described by his peers and the press as a renegade thinker, 692 00:38:06,941 --> 00:38:09,475 Robert is now pushing on a new frontier. 693 00:38:09,477 --> 00:38:14,046 He says the Universe is unquestionably a living thing, 694 00:38:14,048 --> 00:38:17,216 but with a shocking twist. 695 00:38:17,218 --> 00:38:19,552 Yes, the Universe is definitely alive. 696 00:38:19,554 --> 00:38:21,187 It's not an object. 697 00:38:21,189 --> 00:38:23,456 It's an active process that actually involves our consciousness. 698 00:38:23,458 --> 00:38:25,624 So if you look at the trees or the sky, 699 00:38:25,626 --> 00:38:28,127 the truth is, everything you see and experience 700 00:38:28,129 --> 00:38:31,130 is a whirl of information occurring in your mind. 701 00:38:31,132 --> 00:38:35,668 Freeman: Robert firmly believes that the Universe 702 00:38:35,670 --> 00:38:41,006 begins and ends in the mind of the observer. 703 00:38:41,008 --> 00:38:43,275 That the universe is nothing more 704 00:38:43,277 --> 00:38:46,846 than the vivid imagination of our brains. 705 00:38:46,848 --> 00:38:49,348 He calls his theory biocentrism. 706 00:38:49,350 --> 00:38:51,917 Lanza: In the external world, 707 00:38:51,919 --> 00:38:54,186 there's a range of electromagnetic radiation. 708 00:38:54,188 --> 00:38:57,490 At one specific point, we'll see red, 709 00:38:57,492 --> 00:39:00,860 or to a certain bird, it may fluoresce orange. 710 00:39:00,862 --> 00:39:02,328 Or to some animals, 711 00:39:02,330 --> 00:39:07,166 they can actually see radar or ultraviolet. 712 00:39:07,168 --> 00:39:09,168 So all of these things 713 00:39:09,170 --> 00:39:11,770 are not determined by the external world. 714 00:39:11,772 --> 00:39:13,339 They're determined by us. 715 00:39:13,341 --> 00:39:14,607 So it's our mind 716 00:39:14,609 --> 00:39:17,943 that actually makes that subjective experience. 717 00:39:17,945 --> 00:39:19,778 So biocentrism is the only rational way 718 00:39:19,780 --> 00:39:21,714 to explain the structure of the Universe. 719 00:39:21,716 --> 00:39:25,417 Freeman: Robert's radical theory stems from pondering 720 00:39:25,419 --> 00:39:28,621 another strange theory that is widely accepted -- 721 00:39:28,623 --> 00:39:30,789 quantum mechanics. 722 00:39:30,791 --> 00:39:35,895 In quantum theory, particles can be in multiple places at once. 723 00:39:35,897 --> 00:39:37,963 Until the moment you make a measurement, 724 00:39:37,965 --> 00:39:42,535 when the particle must end up in only one of those locations. 725 00:39:42,537 --> 00:39:44,937 Which means nothing is certain 726 00:39:44,939 --> 00:39:48,574 until an observer makes a measurement. 727 00:39:53,179 --> 00:39:57,049 Robert thinks we must apply the rules of the microscopic world 728 00:39:57,051 --> 00:39:59,752 to our everyday experiences. 729 00:39:59,754 --> 00:40:03,389 Since everything we see, hear and touch 730 00:40:03,391 --> 00:40:06,125 is made up of microscopic particles, 731 00:40:06,127 --> 00:40:09,495 which led him to wonder, 732 00:40:09,497 --> 00:40:13,666 what really happens when a tree falls in the woods? 733 00:40:13,668 --> 00:40:15,301 So when a tree falls in the forest, 734 00:40:15,303 --> 00:40:17,102 it creates an air pressure disturbance. 735 00:40:17,104 --> 00:40:18,504 According to simple science, 736 00:40:18,506 --> 00:40:21,707 that occurs whether or not anyone is there to observe it. 737 00:40:21,709 --> 00:40:24,343 But we know for a fact that without the observer, 738 00:40:24,345 --> 00:40:27,279 that not a single particle in the tree or the air itself 739 00:40:27,281 --> 00:40:29,114 exists with definite properties. 740 00:40:29,116 --> 00:40:33,052 So unless someone is actually observing the tree falling, 741 00:40:33,054 --> 00:40:36,255 there are no particles there to make the noise. 742 00:40:36,257 --> 00:40:39,191 So without your consciousness, there's no sound. 743 00:40:39,193 --> 00:40:41,460 Indeed, there's no tree. 744 00:40:41,462 --> 00:40:44,830 Freeman: The physical world around us is all an illusion, 745 00:40:44,832 --> 00:40:47,933 created by our minds, 746 00:40:47,935 --> 00:40:50,469 and when we close our eyes, 747 00:40:50,471 --> 00:40:54,940 space and time simply dissolve away. 748 00:40:54,942 --> 00:40:56,408 Well, it's actually us, the observer, 749 00:40:56,410 --> 00:40:58,444 who creates space and time, and that's why you're here now. 750 00:40:58,446 --> 00:41:02,514 Reality begins and ends with the observer. 751 00:41:02,516 --> 00:41:06,485 Freeman: Robert Lanza's biocentrism is a radical spin 752 00:41:06,487 --> 00:41:10,322 on the undeniable strangeness of quantum mechanics. 753 00:41:10,324 --> 00:41:13,225 Quantum computation expert Seth Lloyd 754 00:41:13,227 --> 00:41:15,260 sees a different connection 755 00:41:15,262 --> 00:41:18,263 between biology and the Universe -- 756 00:41:18,265 --> 00:41:22,001 one that is less controversial, but just as mind-blowing. 757 00:41:22,003 --> 00:41:24,536 He believes that every single thing 758 00:41:24,538 --> 00:41:27,139 that has happened since the Big Bang 759 00:41:27,141 --> 00:41:29,842 is part of a colossal computation 760 00:41:29,844 --> 00:41:32,578 that the Universe is still making. 761 00:41:32,580 --> 00:41:38,350 And within the universe's vast array of atomic 0s and 1s 762 00:41:38,352 --> 00:41:41,754 exists what could be its crowning achievement -- 763 00:41:41,756 --> 00:41:44,289 biological life. 764 00:41:44,291 --> 00:41:46,892 So the Universe is constantly generating 765 00:41:46,894 --> 00:41:49,194 little random bits of information. 766 00:41:49,196 --> 00:41:50,929 Now, every now and then, 767 00:41:50,931 --> 00:41:54,667 one of these little random fluctuations will take hold 768 00:41:54,669 --> 00:41:57,069 and get amplified to a large scale 769 00:41:57,071 --> 00:42:01,073 and start to have really massive consequences in the Universe. 770 00:42:01,075 --> 00:42:05,044 You could say that when life came along and created DNA, 771 00:42:05,046 --> 00:42:08,681 that there was already an ongoing computation going on, 772 00:42:08,683 --> 00:42:13,385 and life figured out how to hack into that ongoing computation 773 00:42:13,387 --> 00:42:18,957 to make a piece of it do something novel and different. 774 00:42:21,061 --> 00:42:24,465 To think of the Universe as a single, living thing 775 00:42:25,107 --> 00:42:28,909 stretches our imaginations quite a bit. 776 00:42:28,911 --> 00:42:31,545 The cosmos could be driven by a heartbeat 777 00:42:31,547 --> 00:42:33,914 that pumps out clusters of galaxies 778 00:42:33,916 --> 00:42:36,816 once every trillion years. 779 00:42:36,818 --> 00:42:39,853 We could be the child of another universe 780 00:42:39,855 --> 00:42:42,122 and be spawning countless more. 781 00:42:42,124 --> 00:42:46,059 Or the cosmos could be a giant computation, 782 00:42:46,061 --> 00:42:52,098 infected by a computer virus called biological life. 783 00:42:52,100 --> 00:42:55,902 And we can't tell who is more alive -- 784 00:42:55,904 --> 00:43:00,006 The Universe or us. 785 00:43:00,395 --> 00:43:04,395 == sync, corrected by elderman ==64105

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