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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,668 --> 00:00:07,407 Freeman: Do we control our destinies... 2 00:00:07,407 --> 00:00:11,077 Or are we prisoners of fate? 3 00:00:11,077 --> 00:00:14,147 We may all be at the mercy of our biological programming. 4 00:00:16,282 --> 00:00:19,252 Our actions may not determine the future. 5 00:00:22,321 --> 00:00:28,194 And the future might reach back to change the past. 6 00:00:28,194 --> 00:00:32,298 Is freedom of choice just an illusion... 7 00:00:32,298 --> 00:00:35,668 Or do we have free will? 8 00:00:35,768 --> 00:00:37,768 Through the Wormhole 9 00:00:37,868 --> 00:00:39,868 With Morgan Freeman 10 00:00:40,973 --> 00:00:46,012 Space, time, life itself. 11 00:00:48,347 --> 00:00:53,386 The secrets of the cosmos lie through the wormhole. 12 00:00:53,386 --> 00:00:56,388 Subtital By RA_One Do We Have Free Will? 14 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:08,902 The ancient greeks believed 15 00:01:08,902 --> 00:01:11,904 everyone's path is set at birth. 16 00:01:11,904 --> 00:01:13,440 No matter what we do, 17 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:17,376 there is no escaping the fate the gods have chosen for us. 18 00:01:17,376 --> 00:01:21,213 Freedom of choice is an illusion. 19 00:01:21,213 --> 00:01:25,585 Today, some scientists believe the greeks were right. 20 00:01:25,585 --> 00:01:28,722 Our courses really are predetermined, 21 00:01:28,722 --> 00:01:31,491 not by the will of celestial beings, 22 00:01:31,491 --> 00:01:33,860 but by the workings of our brains 23 00:01:33,860 --> 00:01:38,264 and the fundamental laws that govern time and space. 24 00:01:38,264 --> 00:01:41,534 Do we have free will? 25 00:01:41,534 --> 00:01:48,975 Or are we just puppets dangling from invisible strings? 26 00:01:53,647 --> 00:01:55,849 When I was in grade school, 27 00:01:55,849 --> 00:01:58,451 I got into trouble in class one day. 28 00:02:00,053 --> 00:02:01,687 Morgan! 29 00:02:01,687 --> 00:02:03,656 Freeman: I fled the classroom 30 00:02:03,656 --> 00:02:08,161 and ran full-tilt into a teacher, 31 00:02:08,161 --> 00:02:12,799 who then introduced me to my first drama teacher. 32 00:02:12,799 --> 00:02:14,400 Where you running off to, son? 33 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:18,138 It was the beginning of my acting career. 34 00:02:20,139 --> 00:02:23,943 It might have happened differently. 35 00:02:23,943 --> 00:02:26,880 Or was it meant to happen? 36 00:02:28,114 --> 00:02:32,285 The answer may lie in the heavens. 37 00:02:32,285 --> 00:02:34,287 [ Thunder crashes ] 38 00:02:37,056 --> 00:02:40,460 Like many athletes, Dennis shaffer wants to know 39 00:02:40,460 --> 00:02:42,195 what makes his opponents tick. 40 00:02:43,796 --> 00:02:47,700 And as a research psychologist at Ohio state university, 41 00:02:47,700 --> 00:02:50,470 he's finding the answers. 42 00:02:50,470 --> 00:02:56,409 Dennis studies the hidden forces that control the way we move. 43 00:02:56,409 --> 00:02:59,279 I started studying how baseball outfielders catch fly balls, 44 00:02:59,279 --> 00:03:01,815 and from there, it was just the confluence 45 00:03:01,815 --> 00:03:04,617 of my love for visual perception and of sports, 46 00:03:04,617 --> 00:03:09,388 studying how people navigate in the environment. 47 00:03:09,388 --> 00:03:12,592 Freeman: Few of us are conscious 48 00:03:12,592 --> 00:03:16,929 of the underlying mechanisms that guide our behavior. 49 00:03:16,929 --> 00:03:18,698 Most of the processes that we use 50 00:03:18,698 --> 00:03:20,933 to catch and throw a baseball, we're unaware of. 51 00:03:20,933 --> 00:03:23,102 So, where I put my arm when I throw it, 52 00:03:23,102 --> 00:03:24,871 how exactly I get my glove 53 00:03:24,871 --> 00:03:27,473 to a certain spot to catch the ball, 54 00:03:27,473 --> 00:03:29,475 we're not aware of. 55 00:03:29,475 --> 00:03:30,843 And it's very important 56 00:03:30,843 --> 00:03:33,279 to get as many processes automatic as possible. 57 00:03:33,279 --> 00:03:34,747 That way, you have to spend less time 58 00:03:34,747 --> 00:03:36,249 actually with it in your consciousness, 59 00:03:36,249 --> 00:03:38,718 thinking about it, trying to remember what you're supposed to do, 60 00:03:38,718 --> 00:03:40,186 and that sort of thing. 61 00:03:40,186 --> 00:03:43,623 We like to think our conscious minds 62 00:03:43,623 --> 00:03:46,693 have the final say over our actions, 63 00:03:46,693 --> 00:03:49,996 but is the conscious mind really in charge? 64 00:03:49,996 --> 00:03:52,998 Does what you think you are doing 65 00:03:52,998 --> 00:03:56,002 match up to what you actually do? 66 00:03:56,002 --> 00:03:57,470 Whoa, whoa, whoa! Oh, geez! 67 00:03:57,470 --> 00:04:01,675 Dennis and his students have set up an experiment to find out. 68 00:04:01,675 --> 00:04:04,711 Today, they have rigged nine cameras 69 00:04:04,711 --> 00:04:10,216 to track the movements of a man, a woman, and a dog. 70 00:04:10,216 --> 00:04:11,751 Okay, you'll want to face it in 71 00:04:11,751 --> 00:04:13,486 a little bit more toward the field 72 00:04:13,486 --> 00:04:14,687 where they'll be running. 73 00:04:14,687 --> 00:04:18,290 Each will take turns chasing a frisbee. 74 00:04:20,225 --> 00:04:23,162 They all have different strategies to catch it. 75 00:04:23,162 --> 00:04:26,833 Jason plans to rely on speed. 76 00:04:26,833 --> 00:04:29,168 Once I catch the frisbee in my sight, 77 00:04:29,168 --> 00:04:31,637 then I slow my speed down accordingly 78 00:04:31,637 --> 00:04:33,973 or speed it up a little bit faster. 79 00:04:33,973 --> 00:04:36,842 Freeman: Jamie plans to run parallel to the frisbee. 80 00:04:36,842 --> 00:04:38,278 I tried to stay under the frisbee when I was running 81 00:04:38,278 --> 00:04:39,578 to catch it 82 00:04:39,578 --> 00:04:44,484 so I could be ahead when it started to come down. 83 00:04:47,754 --> 00:04:53,760 Freeman: Presumably, Merlin the dog does not have a conscious plan. 84 00:04:57,163 --> 00:04:59,565 Using the data from the cameras, 85 00:04:59,565 --> 00:05:03,870 Dennis plots the movements of the chasers and their target. 86 00:05:03,870 --> 00:05:06,873 He chooses a background point for reference, 87 00:05:06,873 --> 00:05:09,709 then maps how the flight path of the frisbee 88 00:05:09,709 --> 00:05:11,845 appeared to the chasers. 89 00:05:11,845 --> 00:05:15,614 A familiar pattern begins to emerge. 90 00:05:15,614 --> 00:05:19,051 So, what we're seeing now is the view of the frisbee 91 00:05:19,051 --> 00:05:22,488 from the perspective of the chaser, 92 00:05:22,488 --> 00:05:23,689 and what we see 93 00:05:23,689 --> 00:05:25,558 at each point in time from this perspective 94 00:05:25,558 --> 00:05:27,126 is that the frisbee is rising 95 00:05:27,126 --> 00:05:28,594 relative to the background scenery. 96 00:05:28,594 --> 00:05:32,832 And you can see it moves in relatively a straight line 97 00:05:32,832 --> 00:05:34,800 and at a constant speed 98 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:37,770 until the pursuer gets close enough to catch it. 99 00:05:37,770 --> 00:05:40,707 Freeman: No matter what they believe they're doing, 100 00:05:40,707 --> 00:05:44,643 all three pursuers follow the same pattern. 101 00:05:44,643 --> 00:05:48,547 Dennis has seen this happen in trial after trial. 102 00:05:48,547 --> 00:05:50,749 What was most surprising about that 103 00:05:50,749 --> 00:05:52,818 is that dogs use the same strategy to catch frisbees 104 00:05:52,818 --> 00:05:55,388 that baseball outfielders use to catch fly balls, 105 00:05:55,388 --> 00:05:58,524 which shows that the basic, underlying mechanism 106 00:05:58,524 --> 00:06:02,061 that guides behavior is kind of a universal. 107 00:06:02,061 --> 00:06:05,230 It's not species specific. It's not target specific. 108 00:06:05,230 --> 00:06:07,667 So, with a baseball or a frisbee or something like that, 109 00:06:07,667 --> 00:06:09,736 it seems to be universal across these domains. 110 00:06:09,736 --> 00:06:12,505 Freeman: When you try to catch a flying object, 111 00:06:12,505 --> 00:06:15,074 you believe you're in charge. 112 00:06:15,074 --> 00:06:17,277 But beneath the level of consciousness, 113 00:06:17,277 --> 00:06:20,513 your body executes dozens of programs 114 00:06:20,513 --> 00:06:22,481 that control your actions. 115 00:06:22,481 --> 00:06:26,252 We think we consciously control our movements, 116 00:06:26,252 --> 00:06:28,622 but we do not. 117 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:30,235 Shaffer: My findings show 118 00:06:30,235 --> 00:06:32,571 that we have no free will when we pursue targets. 119 00:06:32,571 --> 00:06:33,772 People think they're great at it, 120 00:06:33,772 --> 00:06:36,975 and they're awful at it, and the reason is because 121 00:06:36,975 --> 00:06:39,011 their conscious awareness doesn't lock up 122 00:06:39,011 --> 00:06:41,980 with the mechanisms that guide their behavior 123 00:06:41,980 --> 00:06:44,216 while they're intercepting flying objects. 124 00:06:56,528 --> 00:06:59,798 Freeman: Imagine if you had to consciously control 125 00:06:59,798 --> 00:07:02,233 all the muscles you need to move -- 126 00:07:02,233 --> 00:07:04,803 to take a step or draw a breath 127 00:07:04,803 --> 00:07:07,472 or to eat and digest a piece of food. 128 00:07:07,472 --> 00:07:13,512 Your brain is able to do all of this and more simultaneously, 129 00:07:13,512 --> 00:07:16,448 without it commanding your attention. 130 00:07:16,448 --> 00:07:18,249 But how many of the actions 131 00:07:18,249 --> 00:07:20,885 we think we consciously decide to take 132 00:07:20,885 --> 00:07:24,456 are actually automatic and predetermined? 133 00:07:24,456 --> 00:07:27,759 What if the belief that we have any control 134 00:07:27,759 --> 00:07:31,930 is just an illusion? 135 00:07:31,930 --> 00:07:37,269 Until recently, Berlin-based neuroscientist John-Dylan haynes 136 00:07:37,269 --> 00:07:40,171 would've rejected this idea. 137 00:07:40,171 --> 00:07:43,108 Then he began scanning people's brains, 138 00:07:43,108 --> 00:07:45,376 looking for the roots of free will. 139 00:07:45,376 --> 00:07:48,179 What he found made him question 140 00:07:48,179 --> 00:07:52,017 everything he took for granted about his life. 141 00:07:52,017 --> 00:07:54,553 Humans tend to be dualists, 142 00:07:54,553 --> 00:07:56,021 meaning that they think 143 00:07:56,021 --> 00:07:58,356 that the mind and the body are, to some degree, independent. 144 00:07:58,356 --> 00:08:01,493 What modern brain scanners show 145 00:08:01,493 --> 00:08:05,030 is that there seems to be a one-to-one correlation 146 00:08:05,030 --> 00:08:09,034 between what happens in our mind and what happens in our body. 147 00:08:09,034 --> 00:08:13,772 Freeman: Today, John is going to scan the brain of a man named Dennis 148 00:08:13,772 --> 00:08:18,610 while sets of three random letters flash on the screen. 149 00:08:18,610 --> 00:08:20,045 Dennis will respond to the letters 150 00:08:20,045 --> 00:08:23,281 by pressing a red button, either right or left. 151 00:08:23,281 --> 00:08:25,083 It's up to him. 152 00:08:25,083 --> 00:08:28,052 The scanner will show when he decides to press the button, 153 00:08:28,052 --> 00:08:30,021 and a computer will record 154 00:08:30,021 --> 00:08:33,725 exactly when the button gets pressed. 155 00:08:33,725 --> 00:08:36,495 The subject is doing the task. 156 00:08:36,495 --> 00:08:38,962 This is what they're seeing on the screen. 157 00:08:38,962 --> 00:08:41,366 So, they're seeing a sequence of letters, 158 00:08:41,366 --> 00:08:43,735 and at some point, they can freely decide 159 00:08:43,735 --> 00:08:45,804 to press either a left or right button, 160 00:08:45,804 --> 00:08:47,272 and then they have to tell us 161 00:08:47,272 --> 00:08:51,042 which letter was on the screen when they made up their mind. 162 00:08:51,042 --> 00:08:54,212 So, here, the subject is now seeing this letter stream. 163 00:08:54,212 --> 00:08:56,748 They haven't made their decision yet. 164 00:08:56,748 --> 00:08:58,650 Now they've just made a decision, 165 00:08:58,650 --> 00:09:01,319 and now they have to tell us which letter was on the screen 166 00:09:01,319 --> 00:09:02,653 when they made up their mind. 167 00:09:02,653 --> 00:09:07,626 Freeman: The brain scans show that again and again, 168 00:09:07,626 --> 00:09:09,827 Dennis decided to push the right or left button 169 00:09:09,827 --> 00:09:12,663 about a second before he acted. 170 00:09:12,663 --> 00:09:15,267 But there's another pattern of brain activity here, 171 00:09:15,267 --> 00:09:18,203 unconscious activity that occurs 172 00:09:18,203 --> 00:09:21,672 even longer before he makes a conscious decision. 173 00:09:21,672 --> 00:09:24,509 So, what you can see here is brain images coming in. 174 00:09:24,509 --> 00:09:28,346 The decisions begin to arise here in prefrontal cortex 175 00:09:28,346 --> 00:09:30,748 and in this medial parietal region here, 176 00:09:30,748 --> 00:09:32,083 and then what happens 177 00:09:32,083 --> 00:09:35,787 is the information seems to stay there for a few seconds 178 00:09:35,787 --> 00:09:39,424 and then moves on to a supplementary motor area 179 00:09:39,424 --> 00:09:41,493 located here, 180 00:09:41,493 --> 00:09:43,795 and then from there goes into the motor cortex, 181 00:09:43,795 --> 00:09:47,098 where it directly controls our movements. 182 00:09:47,098 --> 00:09:50,568 So, we can see a whole cascade of processing steps. 183 00:09:50,568 --> 00:09:54,105 First, the unconscious activity in these areas here, 184 00:09:54,105 --> 00:09:58,843 and then the conscious activity in these other brain areas. 185 00:09:58,843 --> 00:10:03,515 Freeman: Dennis is supposed to be making a random decision, 186 00:10:03,515 --> 00:10:04,916 but it appears 187 00:10:04,916 --> 00:10:08,586 that up to 10 seconds before he decides to push a button, 188 00:10:08,586 --> 00:10:13,558 his subconscious mind has already made its choice. 189 00:10:13,558 --> 00:10:16,528 So, we think, "when I make my decision now, 190 00:10:16,528 --> 00:10:19,531 I'm free to choose one or the other alternative," 191 00:10:19,531 --> 00:10:21,232 but if my brain has already become active 192 00:10:21,232 --> 00:10:24,903 and started preparing my decision 10 seconds before, 193 00:10:24,903 --> 00:10:27,672 this suggests that this is an illusion, 194 00:10:27,672 --> 00:10:29,273 that we're making up our decision now. 195 00:10:29,273 --> 00:10:31,710 It's actually the brain activity leading up to this 196 00:10:31,710 --> 00:10:33,178 that has made the decision. 197 00:10:33,178 --> 00:10:37,149 Freeman: You can make decisions, but you can only choose 198 00:10:37,249 --> 00:10:39,853 what your unconscious already decided for you. 199 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:41,869 So we control ourselves, 200 00:10:41,869 --> 00:10:44,138 but we can only control ourselves in one way. 201 00:10:44,138 --> 00:10:48,976 That's the way in which our brain was destined to behave. 202 00:10:48,976 --> 00:10:52,312 Freeman: John concedes that exceptional decisions, 203 00:10:52,312 --> 00:10:54,682 such as whether to get married or buy a house, 204 00:10:54,682 --> 00:10:56,750 aren't easily tested in brain scanners. 205 00:10:56,750 --> 00:11:00,988 Nonetheless, he believes the experiment leads 206 00:11:00,988 --> 00:11:03,457 to an inescapable conclusion. 207 00:11:03,457 --> 00:11:06,827 We are not in control. 208 00:11:06,827 --> 00:11:08,996 We have this impression we make a decision, 209 00:11:08,996 --> 00:11:12,867 that we're completely free to take different options, 210 00:11:12,867 --> 00:11:14,502 and what our experiments show 211 00:11:14,502 --> 00:11:16,837 is that this idea, this is an illusion. 212 00:11:16,837 --> 00:11:19,306 We're not free to make one or the other decision. 213 00:11:19,306 --> 00:11:22,143 We're already preprogrammed by our brain activity, 214 00:11:22,143 --> 00:11:24,845 and it's already clear what's gonna happen, to some degree. 215 00:11:24,845 --> 00:11:27,448 We're running around with an illusion. 216 00:11:27,448 --> 00:11:32,887 Freeman: Is free will nothing more than a fantasy? 217 00:11:32,887 --> 00:11:35,189 This neuroscientist believes 218 00:11:35,189 --> 00:11:39,893 there is more to us than automatic systems. 219 00:11:39,893 --> 00:11:41,862 And if we take things to the next level, 220 00:11:41,862 --> 00:11:45,600 we can find an escape route to freedom. 221 00:11:46,001 --> 00:11:47,970 2 1/2 thousand years ago, 222 00:11:47,970 --> 00:11:51,307 an Indian man named Siddhartha Gautama 223 00:11:51,307 --> 00:11:53,143 had an idea. 224 00:11:53,143 --> 00:11:56,779 The idea is captured in the word anatta -- 225 00:11:56,779 --> 00:11:58,580 "not self." 226 00:11:58,580 --> 00:12:00,816 It means that our brains and bodies 227 00:12:00,816 --> 00:12:03,319 are just a collection of physical parts, 228 00:12:03,319 --> 00:12:05,288 and the self is an illusion 229 00:12:05,288 --> 00:12:08,791 that emerges when all those parts work together. 230 00:12:08,791 --> 00:12:11,794 Siddhartha was later given another name -- 231 00:12:11,794 --> 00:12:16,032 Buddha, or "enlightened one" -- 232 00:12:16,032 --> 00:12:18,167 and his way of looking at things 233 00:12:18,167 --> 00:12:23,973 is strikingly familiar to modern neuroscientists. 234 00:12:26,609 --> 00:12:29,078 Mike gazzaniga has been called 235 00:12:29,078 --> 00:12:32,115 the father of cognitive neuroscience. 236 00:12:32,115 --> 00:12:35,485 After four decades of exploring the workings of the mind, 237 00:12:35,485 --> 00:12:38,154 Mike has concluded the inner you 238 00:12:38,154 --> 00:12:40,823 is the product of electrical impulses 239 00:12:40,823 --> 00:12:44,093 coursing through neural tissue. 240 00:12:44,093 --> 00:12:47,563 Nothing more, nothing less. 241 00:12:47,563 --> 00:12:50,566 It is the brain that is producing our mental life. 242 00:12:50,566 --> 00:12:51,901 There's no question about that. 243 00:12:51,901 --> 00:12:54,336 It's coming from this stuff. 244 00:12:54,336 --> 00:12:56,639 The relationship of the mental life 245 00:12:56,639 --> 00:13:01,043 to the stuff that produced it is interactive. 246 00:13:01,043 --> 00:13:02,912 A metaphor that helps thinking about it 247 00:13:02,912 --> 00:13:04,680 is the hardware/software distinction. 248 00:13:04,680 --> 00:13:07,016 The computer hardware is nothing. 249 00:13:07,016 --> 00:13:08,684 It just sits there unless there's software, 250 00:13:08,684 --> 00:13:12,654 and the software then makes the computer hardware 251 00:13:12,654 --> 00:13:14,724 work to produce function. 252 00:13:14,724 --> 00:13:18,027 And the argument that I think for the brain is similar -- 253 00:13:18,027 --> 00:13:20,630 that the mental and the physical layers 254 00:13:20,630 --> 00:13:23,866 are interacting in some way to produce 255 00:13:23,866 --> 00:13:28,137 these wonderful things of consciousness and cognition. 256 00:13:28,137 --> 00:13:32,208 Freeman: So, we're all just biological machines. 257 00:13:32,208 --> 00:13:35,378 The worst word in the English language 258 00:13:35,378 --> 00:13:37,380 is "just," right? 259 00:13:37,380 --> 00:13:38,814 Just machines. 260 00:13:38,814 --> 00:13:41,084 We're fabulous machines. 261 00:13:41,084 --> 00:13:45,221 Freeman: But can machines, biological or mechanical, 262 00:13:45,221 --> 00:13:47,490 control their fate? 263 00:13:47,490 --> 00:13:50,093 Mike believes so. 264 00:13:50,093 --> 00:13:53,062 We may be filled with automatic systems, 265 00:13:53,062 --> 00:13:56,432 but at a higher layer of brain function, 266 00:13:56,432 --> 00:13:59,235 we are capable of making free choices. 267 00:13:59,235 --> 00:14:01,670 To understand how, 268 00:14:01,670 --> 00:14:03,706 Mike says we need to look at ourselves 269 00:14:03,706 --> 00:14:06,642 the way physicists look at nature -- 270 00:14:06,642 --> 00:14:09,612 as a set of complex systems that emerge 271 00:14:09,612 --> 00:14:12,715 from the layers of systems beneath them. 272 00:14:12,715 --> 00:14:14,716 Knowing how one layer works 273 00:14:14,716 --> 00:14:19,022 won't necessarily help you understand another layer. 274 00:14:20,022 --> 00:14:25,760 The concept of emergence is how physical entities, 275 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:28,663 such as water, at one level can't explain 276 00:14:28,663 --> 00:14:30,465 the next level of organization, 277 00:14:30,465 --> 00:14:33,468 which is how water at the sea forms into waves. 278 00:14:33,468 --> 00:14:37,672 That is a different sort of set of principles that are involved, 279 00:14:37,672 --> 00:14:39,674 and no way by understanding water 280 00:14:39,674 --> 00:14:43,811 are you gonna understand wave formation and execution. 281 00:14:43,811 --> 00:14:48,683 Freeman: And our multilayered brains are not isolated systems. 282 00:14:48,683 --> 00:14:52,721 In fact, our brains are like cars. 283 00:14:54,022 --> 00:14:58,560 Cars are machines filled with networks of precision parts, 284 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:00,962 each with a specific function, 285 00:15:00,962 --> 00:15:04,666 but together forming one complete system. 286 00:15:04,666 --> 00:15:08,402 But cars are not meant to be stand-alone objects. 287 00:15:08,402 --> 00:15:11,240 [ Engine revs ] 288 00:15:14,509 --> 00:15:17,879 They are meant to share the road with other vehicles, 289 00:15:17,879 --> 00:15:23,784 just as our brains are designed to interact with other brains, 290 00:15:23,784 --> 00:15:25,553 and this, Mike feels, 291 00:15:25,553 --> 00:15:28,556 is the layer where free will exists -- 292 00:15:28,556 --> 00:15:32,060 the level of personal responsibility. 293 00:15:32,060 --> 00:15:34,462 If you were the only person in the world, 294 00:15:34,462 --> 00:15:37,032 there's no concept of personal responsibility. 295 00:15:37,032 --> 00:15:39,534 What's it mean? It doesn't mean anything. 296 00:15:39,534 --> 00:15:41,970 There's no one else to be personally responsible to. 297 00:15:41,970 --> 00:15:45,673 So it is developed out of the interactions 298 00:15:45,673 --> 00:15:48,677 that occur when there's more than one person. 299 00:15:48,677 --> 00:15:52,113 Freeman: Whenever we make a decision, 300 00:15:52,113 --> 00:15:55,584 our choice has a ripple effect on the people around us, 301 00:15:55,584 --> 00:15:57,619 and those people will punish us 302 00:15:57,619 --> 00:16:01,756 if we fail to follow the rules of society. 303 00:16:01,756 --> 00:16:03,858 We may not have many options, 304 00:16:03,858 --> 00:16:07,262 but we are responsible for our actions. 305 00:16:07,262 --> 00:16:09,965 Gazzaniga: Any network, 306 00:16:09,965 --> 00:16:12,401 the elements have to be held accountable for their actions 307 00:16:12,401 --> 00:16:13,634 or the whole thing doesn't work. 308 00:16:13,634 --> 00:16:15,904 Freeman: We follow sets of rules, 309 00:16:15,904 --> 00:16:20,708 but are free to make choices within those boundaries... 310 00:16:20,708 --> 00:16:22,711 Or to completely ignore them. 311 00:16:24,846 --> 00:16:26,848 [ Horns honking ] 312 00:16:28,583 --> 00:16:32,120 Gazzaniga: Freedom means getting more information 313 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:34,990 so we get smarter and smarter and wiser and wiser 314 00:16:34,990 --> 00:16:38,393 about all the things that are going on around us. 315 00:16:38,393 --> 00:16:40,061 That's how you can define freedom, 316 00:16:40,061 --> 00:16:47,101 but it's done through this very beautiful, mechanistic machine 317 00:16:47,101 --> 00:16:49,304 that accomplishes all these things. 318 00:16:49,304 --> 00:16:50,639 It's pretty cool. 319 00:16:50,639 --> 00:16:54,676 Freeman: But what happens when we go beyond 320 00:16:54,676 --> 00:16:57,445 one-to-one, personal interactions 321 00:16:57,445 --> 00:16:59,848 and out to the next layer, 322 00:16:59,848 --> 00:17:03,450 the layer of mass social behavior? 323 00:17:03,450 --> 00:17:08,056 A new kind of science is finding the societies we live in 324 00:17:08,056 --> 00:17:10,425 follow rules as predictable as those 325 00:17:10,425 --> 00:17:13,027 guiding the movements of the planets. 326 00:17:13,027 --> 00:17:16,296 This man is using them to see the future 327 00:17:16,296 --> 00:17:20,701 and to see whether we have any hope of changing it. 328 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:30,869 Many christians say 329 00:17:30,869 --> 00:17:35,040 God gives us freedom to choose between good and evil. 330 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:38,911 We are all responsible for our actions. 331 00:17:38,911 --> 00:17:44,850 But some denominations believe God sets our course from birth. 332 00:17:44,850 --> 00:17:48,454 How much freedom do we really have? 333 00:17:48,454 --> 00:17:52,658 Society puts limits on our free will. 334 00:17:52,658 --> 00:17:57,162 In fact, a new science contends that we can use equations 335 00:17:57,162 --> 00:17:58,664 to accurately predict 336 00:17:58,664 --> 00:18:01,734 what groups of people will do in the future. 337 00:18:01,734 --> 00:18:06,405 Are we all prisoners of fate? 338 00:18:08,007 --> 00:18:13,245 Sean gourley is a two-time New Zealand decathlon champion. 339 00:18:13,245 --> 00:18:16,315 He understands that mastering certain fundamentals 340 00:18:16,315 --> 00:18:19,085 leads to a desired outcome. 341 00:18:20,285 --> 00:18:22,688 Sean is also a physicist. 342 00:18:22,688 --> 00:18:25,925 After working in nanotechnology, 343 00:18:25,925 --> 00:18:27,459 he turned his keen mind 344 00:18:27,459 --> 00:18:30,096 to the troubled world around him. 345 00:18:30,096 --> 00:18:31,764 Why do we have disease and epidemics 346 00:18:31,764 --> 00:18:33,365 that spread across the globe? 347 00:18:33,365 --> 00:18:36,068 Why do we have financial market crashing? 348 00:18:36,068 --> 00:18:37,769 You know, why do we have conflict and insurgency 349 00:18:37,769 --> 00:18:39,372 that we can't seem to wrap our heads around? 350 00:18:39,372 --> 00:18:42,174 So, those, for me, were the really, really big questions, 351 00:18:42,174 --> 00:18:44,009 and I guess it was just coming at a point 352 00:18:44,009 --> 00:18:45,811 when there was enough data coming online 353 00:18:45,811 --> 00:18:47,179 that we could start 354 00:18:47,179 --> 00:18:49,147 to actually take the techniques from experimental physics 355 00:18:49,147 --> 00:18:52,251 and apply them to understanding the world around us. 356 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:58,269 Freeman: Physicists describe nature 357 00:18:58,269 --> 00:19:01,038 using the language of mathematics. 358 00:19:01,038 --> 00:19:04,475 Human behavior may seem to live outside of this realm, 359 00:19:04,475 --> 00:19:06,577 but Sean says it, too, 360 00:19:06,577 --> 00:19:09,780 can be reduced to mathematical predictability. 361 00:19:09,780 --> 00:19:11,883 Gourley: So, you know, when you're out running hurdles, 362 00:19:11,883 --> 00:19:13,584 you're obeying a set of physics equations. 363 00:19:13,584 --> 00:19:14,585 It's very predictable. 364 00:19:14,585 --> 00:19:16,087 If you measure the force 365 00:19:16,087 --> 00:19:17,821 at which you drive across the hurdle, 366 00:19:17,821 --> 00:19:18,823 you'll be able to predict 367 00:19:18,823 --> 00:19:20,224 the time that you finish the race in. 368 00:19:20,224 --> 00:19:22,359 And so on the track, there's newtonian physics. 369 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:24,596 When we work into the world of insurgency 370 00:19:24,596 --> 00:19:25,697 or financial market crashes, 371 00:19:25,697 --> 00:19:27,231 it's the world of nonlinear physics. 372 00:19:27,231 --> 00:19:30,000 It's chaos, and it's a different type of physics, 373 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:31,335 but it's a physics nonetheless. 374 00:19:31,335 --> 00:19:34,339 Freeman: Up close, 375 00:19:34,339 --> 00:19:36,607 the behavior of birds seems chaotic. 376 00:19:36,607 --> 00:19:41,045 But when we stand back, we see patterns at work. 377 00:19:43,114 --> 00:19:46,884 The same applies to groups of people. 378 00:19:46,884 --> 00:19:49,019 Gourley: So, when you look at people moving in the crowd, 379 00:19:49,019 --> 00:19:52,657 they've got a few basic equations they want to optimize. 380 00:19:52,657 --> 00:19:53,691 Now, they're not necessarily 381 00:19:53,691 --> 00:19:54,959 consciously aware of these equations. 382 00:19:54,959 --> 00:19:56,660 It's things like they want to get from "a" to "b" 383 00:19:56,660 --> 00:19:57,995 as quick as possible 384 00:19:57,995 --> 00:20:00,364 or they want to do it in a way that avoids obstacles, 385 00:20:00,364 --> 00:20:02,700 so they tend to follow people in front of them 386 00:20:02,700 --> 00:20:05,236 and let the person in front sort of act as a buffer. 387 00:20:05,236 --> 00:20:07,805 So, we start to see these channels form 388 00:20:07,805 --> 00:20:10,308 of people kind of almost forming little trains 389 00:20:10,308 --> 00:20:12,142 as they move through the environment, 390 00:20:12,142 --> 00:20:14,311 and these trains last for maybe a few seconds 391 00:20:14,311 --> 00:20:18,416 or maybe a few minutes and then they break apart again. 392 00:20:18,416 --> 00:20:20,084 So, when you put the variables of reaction, 393 00:20:20,084 --> 00:20:24,322 speed, and kind of a goal in mind 394 00:20:24,322 --> 00:20:26,324 and you put a large group of people together, 395 00:20:26,324 --> 00:20:28,225 you can kind of start to model this 396 00:20:28,225 --> 00:20:29,693 with three or four variables. 397 00:20:29,693 --> 00:20:31,762 And with those three or four variables, 398 00:20:31,762 --> 00:20:34,732 all of a sudden that swarm of people ceases to become random 399 00:20:34,732 --> 00:20:36,701 and starts to become predictable. 400 00:20:36,701 --> 00:20:38,669 Freeman: The way Sean sees it, 401 00:20:38,669 --> 00:20:43,007 simple social rules give rise to global patterns. 402 00:20:43,007 --> 00:20:45,376 If you can understand the patterns, 403 00:20:45,376 --> 00:20:49,046 seemingly chaotic events become predictable, 404 00:20:49,046 --> 00:20:53,151 and you can find ways to change the patterns. 405 00:20:53,151 --> 00:20:55,153 [ Glass shatters ] 406 00:20:55,153 --> 00:20:58,056 [ Crowd shouting ] 407 00:20:58,056 --> 00:21:02,760 Wars have plagued humanity for the whole of human history, 408 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:05,930 but what if we could see them coming? 409 00:21:05,930 --> 00:21:07,931 What if we could predict a flash point 410 00:21:07,931 --> 00:21:10,702 and take steps to stop it from happening? 411 00:21:10,702 --> 00:21:15,873 Sean and his colleagues at the data analytics company quid 412 00:21:15,873 --> 00:21:18,041 collect all available information 413 00:21:18,041 --> 00:21:21,079 about conflicts around the globe, 414 00:21:21,079 --> 00:21:23,147 then they look for patterns 415 00:21:23,147 --> 00:21:25,716 that emerge from the seeming chaos. 416 00:21:25,716 --> 00:21:27,885 They gained a reputation in the defense community 417 00:21:27,885 --> 00:21:30,789 tracking the growth of the insurgency in Iraq. 418 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,102 Gourley: So, you've got the collective actions 419 00:21:33,102 --> 00:21:35,104 of literally tens of thousands of different individuals 420 00:21:35,104 --> 00:21:38,140 and, also, on the U.S. side, as well, 421 00:21:38,140 --> 00:21:41,077 coming together to create a statistical signature 422 00:21:41,077 --> 00:21:42,912 that none of them are aware of. 423 00:21:43,780 --> 00:21:46,649 Freeman: Sean has found a strict mathematical relationship 424 00:21:46,649 --> 00:21:51,321 between the number of attacks and their size. 425 00:21:51,321 --> 00:21:54,190 Gourley: It's a very, very clean, straight line. 426 00:21:54,190 --> 00:21:57,760 Out of all the different things that it could be, it chose this. 427 00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:00,363 [ Indistinct shouting ] 428 00:22:00,363 --> 00:22:02,832 Freeman: And the same patterns of violence 429 00:22:02,832 --> 00:22:05,601 show up in armed conflicts around the world, 430 00:22:05,601 --> 00:22:11,440 from Iraq to Colombia to Afghanistan to Indonesia. 431 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:12,975 Gourley: We can actually start to 432 00:22:12,975 --> 00:22:15,211 very accurately predict the likely size of an attack 433 00:22:15,211 --> 00:22:18,281 for any given time period within the conflict. 434 00:22:18,281 --> 00:22:21,350 It's almost as if somebody came and placed every dot, 435 00:22:21,350 --> 00:22:23,086 but, of course, no one's placing every dot. 436 00:22:23,086 --> 00:22:24,687 This is people that are out there 437 00:22:24,687 --> 00:22:25,889 to try and kill each other. 438 00:22:27,790 --> 00:22:30,326 Freeman: But once you see this pattern, when you know 439 00:22:30,326 --> 00:22:33,997 what the future will bring, can you change it? 440 00:22:33,997 --> 00:22:37,400 Gourley: If we want a different kind of future, 441 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:39,969 we want to engineer the conflict 442 00:22:39,969 --> 00:22:41,904 to end up in a different direction, 443 00:22:41,904 --> 00:22:44,206 we, as humans, need to make decisions. 444 00:22:44,206 --> 00:22:45,908 We need to target different groups. 445 00:22:45,908 --> 00:22:47,209 We need to think, 446 00:22:47,209 --> 00:22:49,078 is it normal to attack big groups or small groups? 447 00:22:49,078 --> 00:22:50,946 Should I take things out of the top level 448 00:22:50,946 --> 00:22:53,049 or should I take things out of the bottom level? 449 00:22:53,049 --> 00:22:56,418 We've found patterns that show how the world is. 450 00:22:56,418 --> 00:22:59,589 What we really want to get to is patterns that show 451 00:22:59,589 --> 00:23:02,592 how the world will be, based on the decisions we make. 452 00:23:02,592 --> 00:23:05,828 Freeman: The more data we have, 453 00:23:05,828 --> 00:23:07,797 the better we can control our fate. 454 00:23:09,399 --> 00:23:11,867 But will we ever have enough data? 455 00:23:11,867 --> 00:23:14,904 Over the course of human history, 456 00:23:14,904 --> 00:23:17,740 empire after empire has discovered 457 00:23:17,740 --> 00:23:21,744 that altering the course of world affairs is not easy. 458 00:23:21,744 --> 00:23:25,948 It may be that, as the ancient greeks suspected, 459 00:23:25,948 --> 00:23:30,720 we can change small things about our lives, 460 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:35,257 but ultimately we are all in the grip of an unavoidable fate. 461 00:23:35,257 --> 00:23:39,028 I think when you've got free will, 462 00:23:39,028 --> 00:23:41,831 it's not an either/or. 463 00:23:41,831 --> 00:23:45,100 It's a "yes, but," and you have free will, 464 00:23:45,100 --> 00:23:48,070 like I had free will at the running track 465 00:23:48,070 --> 00:23:50,773 to move the hurdles up or down. 466 00:23:50,773 --> 00:23:52,975 I can choose what hurdle I want to go over, 467 00:23:52,975 --> 00:23:55,311 but I can't choose to turn off gravity. 468 00:23:55,311 --> 00:24:01,350 And when I go into a war, I can choose, on some level, 469 00:24:01,350 --> 00:24:03,586 my actions within, you know, Iraq, 470 00:24:03,586 --> 00:24:06,522 but I can't change the mathematical signature 471 00:24:06,522 --> 00:24:08,958 that underlies the way I'm likely to die. 472 00:24:08,958 --> 00:24:12,127 And I think that's a really difficult thing 473 00:24:12,127 --> 00:24:14,230 for us, as humans, to wrap our heads around, 474 00:24:14,230 --> 00:24:16,366 because on the one hand I can choose 475 00:24:16,366 --> 00:24:18,635 and on the other hand I have no choice. 476 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,870 Freeman: No matter how wild we might be at heart, 477 00:24:24,870 --> 00:24:27,673 individual actions can rarely change 478 00:24:27,673 --> 00:24:29,708 the course of human history. 479 00:24:29,708 --> 00:24:32,444 The power of free will depends on 480 00:24:32,444 --> 00:24:34,880 what layer of existence you examine -- 481 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:38,684 society or the individual. 482 00:24:38,684 --> 00:24:42,154 There are layers in the natural world, too. 483 00:24:42,154 --> 00:24:45,791 The motions of galaxies, stars, and planets 484 00:24:45,791 --> 00:24:49,295 follow strict laws of cause and effect, 485 00:24:49,295 --> 00:24:52,497 with no room for free will. 486 00:24:52,497 --> 00:24:56,135 But down at the subatomic layer of existence, 487 00:24:56,135 --> 00:25:00,339 is the universe also wild at heart? 488 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:06,804 Isaac Newton saw the universe as a giant clock, 489 00:25:06,804 --> 00:25:11,041 beautifully intricate but utterly predictable. 490 00:25:11,041 --> 00:25:13,610 With enough information, you could know 491 00:25:13,610 --> 00:25:16,747 everything that will happen until the end of time. 492 00:25:16,747 --> 00:25:19,617 In the 20th century, 493 00:25:19,617 --> 00:25:23,653 as we dug down into the subatomic world, 494 00:25:23,653 --> 00:25:28,291 the predictability of Newton's universe fell apart. 495 00:25:28,291 --> 00:25:30,360 In the quantum world, 496 00:25:30,360 --> 00:25:33,997 nothing is determined until you look at it. 497 00:25:33,997 --> 00:25:35,032 [ Rapid ticking ] 498 00:25:35,032 --> 00:25:38,301 [ Rhythmic ticking ] 499 00:25:38,301 --> 00:25:41,438 But what if there's an even deeper layer 500 00:25:41,438 --> 00:25:45,676 on a scale far smaller than the quantum world, 501 00:25:45,676 --> 00:25:50,047 a layer just as predictable as the universe Newton imagined 502 00:25:50,047 --> 00:25:55,653 but following laws we don't yet understand? 503 00:25:55,653 --> 00:26:00,957 Dutch physicist Gerard 't hooft suspects it might be true. 504 00:26:00,957 --> 00:26:04,294 Gerard won the nobel prize for his part in developing 505 00:26:04,294 --> 00:26:06,530 the standard model of particle physics, 506 00:26:06,530 --> 00:26:10,533 our best description of the quantum universe. 507 00:26:10,533 --> 00:26:13,403 If physics is like a game of chess, 508 00:26:13,403 --> 00:26:16,873 Gerard is a grand master. 509 00:26:16,873 --> 00:26:18,876 But if you don't know the game, 510 00:26:18,876 --> 00:26:22,579 chess pieces seem to move in completely unpredictable ways, 511 00:26:22,579 --> 00:26:27,017 and the same can be said of quantum objects. 512 00:26:27,017 --> 00:26:31,254 Quantum physics suggests it's impossible to ever know 513 00:26:31,254 --> 00:26:33,423 the precise location of a particle 514 00:26:33,423 --> 00:26:37,027 and the movement of a particle at the same time. 515 00:26:37,027 --> 00:26:41,765 This effect is called quantum uncertainty. 516 00:26:41,765 --> 00:26:47,004 A particle can be here or there or there but not in between, 517 00:26:47,004 --> 00:26:50,841 or a particle is here or it isn't here. 518 00:26:50,841 --> 00:26:54,578 That's fine, but there is another aspect 519 00:26:54,578 --> 00:26:57,915 to quantum mechanics which is very strange, 520 00:26:57,915 --> 00:27:01,051 and that is that you can have what you call interference. 521 00:27:01,051 --> 00:27:06,289 So, particles can be in a position like this 522 00:27:06,289 --> 00:27:08,692 or in a position like this or here, 523 00:27:08,692 --> 00:27:11,362 and then they also say the particle can be 524 00:27:11,362 --> 00:27:13,964 in all these positions at the same time. 525 00:27:13,964 --> 00:27:17,133 It is in an undecided position. 526 00:27:17,133 --> 00:27:20,471 Freeman: As strange as this sounds, 527 00:27:20,471 --> 00:27:23,140 quantum uncertainty has been tested 528 00:27:23,140 --> 00:27:25,575 and proven again and again. 529 00:27:25,575 --> 00:27:28,112 Quantum mechanics is a superb theory, 530 00:27:28,112 --> 00:27:30,146 but it's not good enough to my taste, 531 00:27:30,146 --> 00:27:34,451 and that's because it somehow defies ordinary logic. 532 00:27:34,451 --> 00:27:37,287 Freeman: To find logic in the quantum world, 533 00:27:37,287 --> 00:27:38,555 Gerard is probing 534 00:27:38,555 --> 00:27:40,791 the mathematical fundamentals of quantum theory. 535 00:27:40,791 --> 00:27:44,594 Working at a level few can comprehend, 536 00:27:44,594 --> 00:27:45,795 he has come to believe 537 00:27:45,795 --> 00:27:48,031 that despite the seeming unpredictability 538 00:27:48,031 --> 00:27:51,268 of quantum particles, the whole of existence 539 00:27:51,268 --> 00:27:54,238 follows a strict, unbending set of rules, 540 00:27:54,238 --> 00:27:59,510 and the universe really does control our fate. 541 00:27:59,510 --> 00:28:03,847 I like to view the universe as a computing instrument, 542 00:28:03,847 --> 00:28:06,183 as a gigantic computer, 543 00:28:06,183 --> 00:28:10,287 a computer not different from your laptop 544 00:28:10,287 --> 00:28:15,259 or from any other computer except its size and its speed. 545 00:28:15,259 --> 00:28:18,028 The universe calculates extremely fast 546 00:28:18,028 --> 00:28:21,932 and with extremely, gigantically big memory, 547 00:28:21,932 --> 00:28:24,935 unlike any man-made object. 548 00:28:28,505 --> 00:28:29,840 Freeman: Computers here on earth 549 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:33,543 operate using a binary code of zeroes and ones, 550 00:28:33,543 --> 00:28:38,615 so where do we find the zeroes and ones of the universe? 551 00:28:38,615 --> 00:28:41,318 It's a matter of scale. 552 00:28:41,318 --> 00:28:45,188 With normal vision, most of us can spot a penny on the ground. 553 00:28:45,188 --> 00:28:47,625 But for Gerard to spot a miniature coin 554 00:28:47,625 --> 00:28:49,893 on the sidewalk of this miniature street 555 00:28:49,893 --> 00:28:52,496 is nearly impossible. 556 00:28:52,496 --> 00:28:54,131 And Gerard towers above 557 00:28:54,131 --> 00:28:57,968 something exponentially smaller than this miniature coin, 558 00:28:57,968 --> 00:29:02,239 a scale trillions upon trillions of times tinier 559 00:29:02,239 --> 00:29:04,007 than the width of an atom. 560 00:29:04,007 --> 00:29:08,445 This is the planck scale, 561 00:29:08,445 --> 00:29:13,349 the basic level of measurement of the universe. 562 00:29:13,349 --> 00:29:16,854 It's here at the very bottom layer of existence 563 00:29:16,854 --> 00:29:18,889 that Gerard believes we will find 564 00:29:18,889 --> 00:29:22,125 the basic bits of information at the heart of creation -- 565 00:29:22,125 --> 00:29:26,563 what he calls beables and changeables, 566 00:29:26,563 --> 00:29:31,068 binary particles that can only give yes or no answers, 567 00:29:31,068 --> 00:29:32,903 not maybes. 568 00:29:32,903 --> 00:29:38,442 This layer exists far beneath the quantum layers we see today. 569 00:29:38,442 --> 00:29:39,909 'T hooft: So, I believe that 570 00:29:39,909 --> 00:29:42,579 is the scale where everything actually happens, 571 00:29:42,579 --> 00:29:44,848 where everything becomes deterministic. 572 00:29:44,848 --> 00:29:49,520 Freeman: Gerard's calculations indicate that at the planck scale, 573 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:51,821 the universe is not a game of chess, 574 00:29:51,821 --> 00:29:53,957 where pieces move in strange ways 575 00:29:53,957 --> 00:29:56,626 and jump across vast terrain. 576 00:29:56,626 --> 00:30:00,630 The universe is a game of checkers, 577 00:30:00,630 --> 00:30:03,367 a binary world where one frame 578 00:30:03,367 --> 00:30:05,535 can only affect an adjoining frame. 579 00:30:05,535 --> 00:30:08,805 'T hooft: Think of a checkerboard 580 00:30:08,805 --> 00:30:11,608 with billions and billions of squares, 581 00:30:11,608 --> 00:30:12,909 and now you look at a checkerboard 582 00:30:12,909 --> 00:30:14,111 from a great distance. 583 00:30:14,111 --> 00:30:16,946 You can no longer follow in detail what happens. 584 00:30:16,946 --> 00:30:20,050 It looks to you as if chaos takes over, 585 00:30:20,050 --> 00:30:22,820 as if things are undetermined. 586 00:30:22,820 --> 00:30:25,956 So, I believe that's the origin of quantum mechanics. 587 00:30:25,956 --> 00:30:28,992 We can no longer predict things with infinite precision 588 00:30:28,992 --> 00:30:32,062 because you're not under control at all 589 00:30:32,062 --> 00:30:35,232 of what happens in all extreme details, 590 00:30:35,232 --> 00:30:36,867 as we would like it. 591 00:30:36,867 --> 00:30:39,737 Freeman: At its deepest level, 592 00:30:39,737 --> 00:30:43,540 the universe may be an enormous checkerboard, 593 00:30:43,540 --> 00:30:49,179 and everything happening in it is a product of its moves. 594 00:30:49,179 --> 00:30:52,248 But at the layer of reality we perceive, 595 00:30:52,248 --> 00:30:55,018 these basic patterns can't be seen. 596 00:30:55,018 --> 00:30:56,553 Although our actions 597 00:30:56,553 --> 00:30:59,690 are ultimately determined by the universe, 598 00:30:59,690 --> 00:31:03,293 it feels like we have free will. 599 00:31:03,293 --> 00:31:04,494 But one physicist feels 600 00:31:04,494 --> 00:31:06,830 the fuzziness of quantum mechanics 601 00:31:06,830 --> 00:31:10,367 allows for genuine free will. 602 00:31:10,367 --> 00:31:14,170 He says cause and effect may not be what we think they are, 603 00:31:14,170 --> 00:31:18,108 because the future can reach back in time 604 00:31:18,108 --> 00:31:20,444 and affect the present. 605 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:30,005 The hindu concept of karma maintains every act, 606 00:31:30,005 --> 00:31:33,809 good or bad, no matter how insignificant, 607 00:31:33,809 --> 00:31:38,614 will eventually return to the doer with equal impact. 608 00:31:38,614 --> 00:31:43,686 Karma is the moral law of cause and effect. 609 00:31:43,686 --> 00:31:47,122 What if this works in reverse? 610 00:31:47,122 --> 00:31:50,392 What if the things we will do in the future 611 00:31:50,392 --> 00:31:55,565 affect what happened in the past? 612 00:31:58,433 --> 00:32:04,206 This physicist has a new way of looking at quantum mechanics, 613 00:32:04,206 --> 00:32:06,942 a way that shows free will is written into 614 00:32:06,942 --> 00:32:10,646 the fundamental structure of the universe. 615 00:32:13,882 --> 00:32:16,285 Ken wharton is a Professor 616 00:32:16,285 --> 00:32:19,288 at San Jose state university in California. 617 00:32:19,288 --> 00:32:22,925 Since he was a little boy, he has been fascinated 618 00:32:22,925 --> 00:32:26,228 by the idea that fundamental laws of nature 619 00:32:26,228 --> 00:32:31,600 can explain nearly everything in our day-to-day existence. 620 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:34,503 When I was a kid, my parents took home movies, 621 00:32:34,503 --> 00:32:36,705 and we watched them on actual film, 622 00:32:36,705 --> 00:32:40,076 and the thing about actual film is after you play it, 623 00:32:40,076 --> 00:32:44,046 you have to rewind the film. 624 00:32:44,046 --> 00:32:45,881 And you could leave the projector running 625 00:32:45,881 --> 00:32:47,549 while you did this, and we often did, 626 00:32:47,549 --> 00:32:48,718 and we laughed at 627 00:32:48,718 --> 00:32:50,886 how funny everything looked running backward. 628 00:32:50,886 --> 00:32:53,755 But my father was a physicist, and he would tell me -- 629 00:32:53,755 --> 00:32:55,091 I distinctly remember -- 630 00:32:55,091 --> 00:32:57,392 "Ken, everything you're seeing here 631 00:32:57,392 --> 00:32:59,828 "still obeys the same laws of physics, 632 00:32:59,828 --> 00:33:01,429 running either direction." 633 00:33:01,429 --> 00:33:04,900 And I've always tried to grapple with this question 634 00:33:04,900 --> 00:33:07,069 of how something that can look so different 635 00:33:07,069 --> 00:33:11,273 might still obey the same laws of physics. 636 00:33:11,273 --> 00:33:13,542 Freeman: Can the laws of physics 637 00:33:13,542 --> 00:33:16,878 also predict the choices that people make? 638 00:33:16,878 --> 00:33:19,614 Are there fundamental rules that, 639 00:33:19,614 --> 00:33:23,018 when everything is set in motion from a given starting position, 640 00:33:23,018 --> 00:33:29,291 lead us inevitably to one and only one possible outcome? 641 00:33:29,291 --> 00:33:32,428 Einstein thought so. 642 00:33:34,162 --> 00:33:36,298 His theory of relativity tells us 643 00:33:36,298 --> 00:33:39,034 we live in something called a block universe, 644 00:33:39,034 --> 00:33:41,870 in which all of space and all of time 645 00:33:41,870 --> 00:33:44,239 are laid out like a roll of film, 646 00:33:44,239 --> 00:33:49,512 where the past, present, and future all exist at once. 647 00:33:51,379 --> 00:33:55,684 This, Ken says, means the future can affect the past, 648 00:33:55,684 --> 00:34:00,055 just as the past affects the future. 649 00:34:00,055 --> 00:34:03,225 The future is not just some series of random events. 650 00:34:03,225 --> 00:34:04,792 There are correlations between the present 651 00:34:04,792 --> 00:34:06,160 and the future that we can predict. 652 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:09,231 That's what science does. 653 00:34:09,231 --> 00:34:11,399 And in the course of making these predictions, 654 00:34:11,399 --> 00:34:14,636 it's more natural to think of the universe 655 00:34:14,636 --> 00:34:16,571 as being one continuous structure 656 00:34:16,571 --> 00:34:18,874 rather than being a bunch of frames cut up 657 00:34:18,874 --> 00:34:20,443 and spread all over the floor. 658 00:34:24,913 --> 00:34:28,884 Freeman: Ken believes that all events -- even quantum events -- 659 00:34:28,884 --> 00:34:33,589 have a definite starting point and a definite ending point, 660 00:34:33,589 --> 00:34:39,862 but there is uncertainty in what happens in between. 661 00:34:39,862 --> 00:34:43,498 The way to make sense of this is retrocausality, 662 00:34:43,498 --> 00:34:46,368 the idea that it is our future choice 663 00:34:46,368 --> 00:34:49,605 that causes that uncertainty. 664 00:34:49,605 --> 00:34:54,777 Freeman: Retrocausality means the future affects the past. 665 00:34:56,044 --> 00:35:00,182 The beginning and ending of events are fixed in time, 666 00:35:00,182 --> 00:35:02,184 but Ken argues quantum physics 667 00:35:02,184 --> 00:35:05,287 creates flexibility in the middle, 668 00:35:05,287 --> 00:35:10,726 and that flexibility offers us the chance to control our fate. 669 00:35:10,726 --> 00:35:12,594 In the newtonian clockwork universe, 670 00:35:12,594 --> 00:35:16,464 the initial state and the laws determine everything there is. 671 00:35:16,464 --> 00:35:18,934 There's no freedom, given the initial state. 672 00:35:18,934 --> 00:35:22,637 In a time-symmetric universe, 673 00:35:22,637 --> 00:35:24,072 it's not obvious that that's true, 674 00:35:24,072 --> 00:35:25,574 because if something is dependent 675 00:35:25,574 --> 00:35:29,311 not only on the initial state, but equally on the final state, 676 00:35:29,311 --> 00:35:34,216 now those intermediate events aren't predetermined 677 00:35:34,216 --> 00:35:37,286 in the sense they're not determined by the initial state. 678 00:35:37,286 --> 00:35:41,357 They might eventually be determined, 679 00:35:41,357 --> 00:35:46,094 but there's more wiggle room for free will. 680 00:35:46,094 --> 00:35:47,963 Freeman: In other words, 681 00:35:47,963 --> 00:35:50,932 the end points of our fates may be fixed, 682 00:35:50,932 --> 00:35:55,671 but we don't know how precisely we will reach them. 683 00:35:55,671 --> 00:36:00,876 Wharton: I don't know what I'm gonna decide in one minute, 684 00:36:00,876 --> 00:36:03,344 and yet that decision will be made. 685 00:36:03,344 --> 00:36:04,947 It will be determined. 686 00:36:04,947 --> 00:36:09,251 So, there is a perfect example of something that I don't know 687 00:36:09,251 --> 00:36:13,222 and is not possibly not determined just by the past, 688 00:36:13,222 --> 00:36:16,292 but nevertheless will eventually be determined. 689 00:36:21,196 --> 00:36:24,966 Freeman: As we sail into the future, 690 00:36:24,966 --> 00:36:27,836 do we really have the freedom to set our own course? 691 00:36:27,836 --> 00:36:33,442 This man thinks the fate of humanity hangs on how you, me, 692 00:36:33,442 --> 00:36:36,879 and everyone else answers this question, 693 00:36:36,879 --> 00:36:40,515 because if we give up on free will, 694 00:36:40,515 --> 00:36:42,418 humanity could be doomed. 695 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:46,735 The debate over just how much 696 00:36:46,735 --> 00:36:49,637 or how little freedom we have to choose our fate 697 00:36:49,637 --> 00:36:52,674 has raged for thousands of years. 698 00:36:52,674 --> 00:36:56,044 It may go on for millennia to come. 699 00:36:56,044 --> 00:36:58,947 No matter who is actually right, 700 00:36:58,947 --> 00:37:03,718 it certainly feels like we have free will, doesn't it? 701 00:37:03,718 --> 00:37:06,855 What if believing we have a choice 702 00:37:06,855 --> 00:37:11,326 is necessary for the survival of the human race? 703 00:37:14,363 --> 00:37:19,668 In 1994, a young man named Jonathan schooler picked up 704 00:37:19,668 --> 00:37:24,005 a book by nobel prize-winning scientist Francis crick. 705 00:37:24,005 --> 00:37:28,343 In it, crick wrote, "you are, in fact, 706 00:37:28,343 --> 00:37:32,481 "no more than the behavior of a vast assembly of nerve cells 707 00:37:32,481 --> 00:37:35,317 and their associated molecules." 708 00:37:37,819 --> 00:37:41,924 Jonathan schooler eventually became a neuroscientist. 709 00:37:41,924 --> 00:37:44,226 Today he's a star Professor 710 00:37:44,226 --> 00:37:47,696 at the university of California, Santa Barbara, 711 00:37:47,696 --> 00:37:50,932 but he's still troubled by crick's book. 712 00:37:50,932 --> 00:37:53,068 I was really taken with Francis crick's 713 00:37:53,068 --> 00:37:55,637 "the astonishing hypothesis" for several reasons. 714 00:37:55,637 --> 00:37:58,540 First off, he said in absolute terms 715 00:37:58,540 --> 00:38:00,576 that science had conclusively ruled out 716 00:38:00,576 --> 00:38:01,910 the existence of free will, 717 00:38:01,910 --> 00:38:03,945 and I just wasn't really persuaded that 718 00:38:03,945 --> 00:38:05,914 that degree of certainty was merited. 719 00:38:07,516 --> 00:38:11,419 Freeman: Crick's beliefs have only become more popular over time, 720 00:38:11,419 --> 00:38:12,921 so a few years ago, 721 00:38:12,921 --> 00:38:15,623 Jonathan began running experiments 722 00:38:15,623 --> 00:38:19,260 to see how this message of strict determinism 723 00:38:19,260 --> 00:38:21,329 affects people's behavior. 724 00:38:21,329 --> 00:38:22,831 In today's experiment, 725 00:38:22,831 --> 00:38:26,301 a series of students will have their morality tested, 726 00:38:26,301 --> 00:38:29,537 but only after they are exposed to 727 00:38:29,537 --> 00:38:33,942 messages about the nature of fate and free will. 728 00:38:33,942 --> 00:38:35,310 At the end of the experiment, 729 00:38:35,310 --> 00:38:38,780 they will fill out a short survey and then be paid 730 00:38:38,780 --> 00:38:42,618 with a dollar coin taken from this jar. 731 00:38:42,618 --> 00:38:45,621 Some of the students read statements 732 00:38:45,621 --> 00:38:47,455 designed to induce a feeling 733 00:38:47,455 --> 00:38:50,159 that they are pawns of biology and fate. 734 00:38:55,997 --> 00:38:58,066 Other students read statements 735 00:38:58,066 --> 00:39:00,936 that bolster their belief in free will. 736 00:39:07,375 --> 00:39:12,481 Then all of the participants are given a cognitive test, 737 00:39:12,481 --> 00:39:14,349 but before they can finish, 738 00:39:14,349 --> 00:39:17,152 Jonathan pretends to be called away. 739 00:39:17,152 --> 00:39:19,520 Oh, dear, I'm late. 740 00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,890 I'm gonna need you to grade the test yourself. 741 00:39:22,890 --> 00:39:25,594 I'll give you the key, and then score yourself $1.00 742 00:39:25,594 --> 00:39:30,665 for every one that you got correct, okay? 743 00:39:30,665 --> 00:39:33,467 Will the messages the students saw earlier 744 00:39:33,467 --> 00:39:36,505 affect their behavior? 745 00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:42,878 Most students only get a question or two correct. 746 00:39:42,878 --> 00:39:45,780 Some pay themselves accordingly. 747 00:39:45,780 --> 00:39:52,821 But other students take more than their share. 748 00:39:52,821 --> 00:39:54,789 Schooler: Those people who were told 749 00:39:54,789 --> 00:39:56,892 there's no such thing as free will 750 00:39:56,892 --> 00:39:59,261 consistently took more coins 751 00:39:59,261 --> 00:40:01,830 than those who were not given that information. 752 00:40:09,237 --> 00:40:10,572 In other words, 753 00:40:10,572 --> 00:40:13,041 telling people there's no such thing as free will 754 00:40:13,041 --> 00:40:15,509 to some degree undermines their capacity 755 00:40:15,509 --> 00:40:17,045 to act in a moral manner. 756 00:40:17,045 --> 00:40:19,780 Freeman: Jonathan suspects 757 00:40:19,780 --> 00:40:24,119 believing you are just a pawn in a cosmic chess game 758 00:40:24,119 --> 00:40:28,456 gives people an excuse for bad behavior. 759 00:40:28,456 --> 00:40:31,693 "Don't blame me. I don't have free will." 760 00:40:31,693 --> 00:40:33,328 Schooler: Another possibility is 761 00:40:33,328 --> 00:40:34,896 it kind of pulls the rug out from underneath them, 762 00:40:34,896 --> 00:40:37,865 that they have this experience of will normally, 763 00:40:37,865 --> 00:40:39,668 but when you tell them they have no such thing as free will, 764 00:40:39,668 --> 00:40:43,070 they just don't have the oomph to be able to prevent themselves 765 00:40:43,070 --> 00:40:46,008 from resisting the temptation of avoiding cheating. 766 00:40:49,077 --> 00:40:50,812 Freeman: Like all thinking people, 767 00:40:50,812 --> 00:40:53,114 Jonathan has his own views on free will. 768 00:40:53,114 --> 00:40:58,853 He accepts that we are shaped by genetics, society, 769 00:40:58,853 --> 00:41:01,590 and the deep workings of the universe, 770 00:41:01,590 --> 00:41:04,859 but he also sees a place for conscious choice. 771 00:41:04,859 --> 00:41:07,762 From my vantage, free will is a lot like sailing. 772 00:41:07,762 --> 00:41:11,099 When you sail, you're buffeted around by the currents, 773 00:41:11,099 --> 00:41:13,034 by the weather, by the wind. 774 00:41:13,034 --> 00:41:14,502 Nevertheless, you're able to set a tack, 775 00:41:14,502 --> 00:41:15,737 and even though you can't control 776 00:41:15,737 --> 00:41:17,372 where you are at any given moment necessarily, 777 00:41:17,372 --> 00:41:19,774 if you set your tack right, 778 00:41:19,774 --> 00:41:22,911 you can end up largely where you want to go. 779 00:41:22,911 --> 00:41:25,447 Freeman: This is what Jonathan believes, 780 00:41:25,447 --> 00:41:28,483 but neither he nor anyone else can prove it. 781 00:41:28,483 --> 00:41:30,786 Schooler: Although we've learned a great deal 782 00:41:30,786 --> 00:41:32,587 about the nature of human consciousness, 783 00:41:32,587 --> 00:41:34,855 about the nature of reality, about physics and so on, 784 00:41:34,855 --> 00:41:36,058 given what we don't know, 785 00:41:36,058 --> 00:41:37,792 I think we need to be very cautious 786 00:41:37,792 --> 00:41:39,795 about ruling out the existence of something 787 00:41:39,795 --> 00:41:41,496 that's so fundamental as free will. 788 00:41:41,496 --> 00:41:45,199 And keeping that option open, 789 00:41:45,199 --> 00:41:47,001 allowing people to be free to believe in free will, 790 00:41:47,001 --> 00:41:50,438 seems to be a really good idea, because free will -- 791 00:41:50,438 --> 00:41:52,407 at least the belief in free will -- 792 00:41:52,407 --> 00:41:54,509 seems to be of great value to people. 793 00:42:01,182 --> 00:42:04,819 Whether or not the universe controls our fate, 794 00:42:04,819 --> 00:42:08,189 humans will always be compelled to ask, 795 00:42:08,189 --> 00:42:10,825 why is this happening? 796 00:42:10,825 --> 00:42:13,895 We will always work for change, 797 00:42:13,895 --> 00:42:17,031 because even if our courses are predetermined, 798 00:42:17,031 --> 00:42:20,935 we don't know them and probably never will. 799 00:42:20,935 --> 00:42:25,540 For us, every day is a new chance for discovery, 800 00:42:25,540 --> 00:42:29,044 a new opportunity to take control of our destiny... 801 00:42:29,044 --> 00:42:32,180 Illusion or not. 64622

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