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Freeman:
Do we control our destinies...
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Or are we prisoners of fate?
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We may all be at the mercy
of our biological programming.
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Our actions may not determine
the future.
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And the future might reach back
to change the past.
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Is freedom of choice
just an illusion...
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Or do we have free will?
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Through the Wormhole
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With Morgan Freeman
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Space, time, life itself.
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The secrets of the cosmos
lie through the wormhole.
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Subtital By RA_One
Do We Have Free Will?
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The ancient greeks believed
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everyone's path is set at birth.
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No matter what we do,
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there is no escaping the fate
the gods have chosen for us.
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Freedom of choice
is an illusion.
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Today, some scientists believe
the greeks were right.
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Our courses
really are predetermined,
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not by the will
of celestial beings,
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but by the workings
of our brains
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and the fundamental laws
that govern time and space.
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Do we have free will?
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Or are we just puppets dangling
from invisible strings?
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When I was in grade school,
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I got into trouble
in class one day.
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Morgan!
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Freeman:
I fled the classroom
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and ran full-tilt
into a teacher,
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who then introduced me
to my first drama teacher.
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Where you running off to, son?
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It was the beginning
of my acting career.
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It might have happened
differently.
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Or was it meant to happen?
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The answer may lie
in the heavens.
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[ Thunder crashes ]
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Like many athletes,
Dennis shaffer wants to know
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what makes his opponents tick.
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And as a research psychologist
at Ohio state university,
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he's finding the answers.
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Dennis studies the hidden forces
that control the way we move.
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I started studying how baseball
outfielders catch fly balls,
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and from there,
it was just the confluence
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of my love for visual perception
and of sports,
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studying how people navigate
in the environment.
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Freeman:
Few of us are conscious
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of the underlying mechanisms
that guide our behavior.
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Most of the processes
that we use
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to catch and throw a baseball,
we're unaware of.
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So, where I put my arm
when I throw it,
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how exactly I get my glove
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to a certain spot
to catch the ball,
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we're not aware of.
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And it's very important
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to get as many processes
automatic as possible.
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That way,
you have to spend less time
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actually with it
in your consciousness,
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thinking about it,
trying to remember
what you're supposed to do,
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and that sort of thing.
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We like to think
our conscious minds
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have the final say
over our actions,
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but is the conscious mind
really in charge?
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Does what you think
you are doing
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match up
to what you actually do?
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Whoa, whoa, whoa!
Oh, geez!
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Dennis and his students have set
up an experiment to find out.
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Today,
they have rigged nine cameras
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to track the movements of a man,
a woman, and a dog.
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Okay,
you'll want to face it in
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a little bit more
toward the field
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where they'll be running.
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Each will take turns
chasing a frisbee.
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They all have different
strategies to catch it.
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Jason plans to rely on speed.
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Once I catch the frisbee
in my sight,
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then I slow my speed down
accordingly
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or speed it up
a little bit faster.
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Freeman: Jamie plans
to run parallel to the frisbee.
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I tried to stay under
the frisbee when I was running
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to catch it
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so I could be ahead
when it started to come down.
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Freeman:
Presumably, Merlin the dog
does not have a conscious plan.
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Using the data from the cameras,
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Dennis plots the movements
of the chasers and their target.
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He chooses a background point
for reference,
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then maps how
the flight path of the frisbee
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appeared to the chasers.
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A familiar pattern
begins to emerge.
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So, what we're seeing now
is the view of the frisbee
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from the perspective
of the chaser,
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and what we see
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at each point in time
from this perspective
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is that the frisbee is rising
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relative
to the background scenery.
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And you can see it moves
in relatively a straight line
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and at a constant speed
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until the pursuer gets
close enough to catch it.
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Freeman: No matter what
they believe they're doing,
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all three pursuers follow
the same pattern.
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Dennis has seen this happen
in trial after trial.
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What was most surprising
about that
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is that dogs use the
same strategy to catch frisbees
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that baseball outfielders use
to catch fly balls,
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which shows that
the basic, underlying mechanism
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that guides behavior
is kind of a universal.
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It's not species specific.
It's not target specific.
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So, with a baseball or a frisbee
or something like that,
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it seems to be universal
across these domains.
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Freeman: When you try to catch
a flying object,
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you believe you're in charge.
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But beneath
the level of consciousness,
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your body executes
dozens of programs
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that control your actions.
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We think we consciously control
our movements,
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but we do not.
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Shaffer: My findings show
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that we have no free will
when we pursue targets.
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People think
they're great at it,
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and they're awful at it,
and the reason is because
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their conscious awareness
doesn't lock up
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with the mechanisms
that guide their behavior
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while they're intercepting
flying objects.
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Freeman: Imagine if you had
to consciously control
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all the muscles
you need to move --
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to take a step or draw a breath
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or to eat
and digest a piece of food.
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Your brain is able to do all of
this and more simultaneously,
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without it commanding
your attention.
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But how many of the actions
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we think
we consciously decide to take
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are actually automatic
and predetermined?
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What if the belief
that we have any control
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is just an illusion?
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Until recently, Berlin-based
neuroscientist John-Dylan haynes
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would've rejected this idea.
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Then he began scanning
people's brains,
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looking for
the roots of free will.
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What he found made him question
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everything he took for granted
about his life.
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Humans tend to be dualists,
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meaning that they think
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that the mind and the body are,
to some degree, independent.
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What modern brain scanners show
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is that there seems to be
a one-to-one correlation
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between what happens in our mind
and what happens in our body.
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Freeman:
Today, John is going to scan
the brain of a man named Dennis
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while sets of three random
letters flash on the screen.
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Dennis will respond
to the letters
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by pressing a red button,
either right or left.
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It's up to him.
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The scanner will show when
he decides to press the button,
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and a computer will record
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exactly when the button
gets pressed.
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The subject is doing the task.
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This is what they're seeing on
the screen.
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So, they're seeing
a sequence of letters,
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and at some point,
they can freely decide
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to press
either a left or right button,
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and then they have to tell us
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which letter was on the screen
when they made up their mind.
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So, here, the subject is now
seeing this letter stream.
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They haven't made
their decision yet.
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Now they've just made
a decision,
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and now they have to tell us
which letter was on the screen
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when they made up their mind.
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Freeman: The brain scans show
that again and again,
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Dennis decided to push
the right or left button
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about a second before he acted.
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But there's another pattern
of brain activity here,
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unconscious activity that occurs
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even longer before
he makes a conscious decision.
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So, what you can see here
is brain images coming in.
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The decisions begin to arise
here in prefrontal cortex
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and in this medial
parietal region here,
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and then what happens
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is the information seems
to stay there for a few seconds
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and then moves on
to a supplementary motor area
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located here,
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and then from there
goes into the motor cortex,
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where it directly controls
our movements.
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So, we can see a whole cascade
of processing steps.
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First, the unconscious activity
in these areas here,
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and then the conscious activity
in these other brain areas.
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Freeman: Dennis is supposed
to be making a random decision,
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but it appears
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that up to 10 seconds before
he decides to push a button,
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his subconscious mind
has already made its choice.
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So, we think,
"when I make my decision now,
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I'm free to choose
one or the other alternative,"
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but if my brain
has already become active
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and started preparing
my decision 10 seconds before,
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this suggests
that this is an illusion,
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that we're making up
our decision now.
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It's actually the brain activity
leading up to this
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that has made the decision.
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Freeman:
You can make decisions,
but you can only choose
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what your unconscious
already decided for you.
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So we control ourselves,
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but we can only
control ourselves in one way.
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That's the way in which our
brain was destined to behave.
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Freeman: John concedes
that exceptional decisions,
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such as whether to get married
or buy a house,
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aren't easily tested
in brain scanners.
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Nonetheless, he believes
the experiment leads
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to an inescapable conclusion.
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We are not in control.
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We have this impression
we make a decision,
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that we're completely free
to take different options,
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and what our experiments show
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is that this idea,
this is an illusion.
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We're not free to make
one or the other decision.
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We're already preprogrammed
by our brain activity,
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and it's already clear what's
gonna happen, to some degree.
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We're running around
with an illusion.
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Freeman: Is free will
nothing more than a fantasy?
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This neuroscientist believes
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there is more to us
than automatic systems.
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And if we take things
to the next level,
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we can find
an escape route to freedom.
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2 1/2 thousand years ago,
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an Indian man
named Siddhartha Gautama
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had an idea.
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The idea is captured
in the word anatta --
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"not self."
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It means
that our brains and bodies
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are just a collection
of physical parts,
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and the self is an illusion
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that emerges when all
those parts work together.
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Siddhartha was later given
another name --
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Buddha, or "enlightened one" --
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and his way of looking at things
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is strikingly familiar
to modern neuroscientists.
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Mike gazzaniga has been called
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the father of cognitive
neuroscience.
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After four decades of exploring
the workings of the mind,
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Mike has concluded the inner you
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is the product
of electrical impulses
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coursing through neural tissue.
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Nothing more, nothing less.
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It is the brain that
is producing our mental life.
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There's no question about that.
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It's coming from this stuff.
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The relationship
of the mental life
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to the stuff that produced it
is interactive.
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A metaphor
that helps thinking about it
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is the hardware/software
distinction.
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The computer hardware
is nothing.
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It just sits there
unless there's software,
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and the software then makes
the computer hardware
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work to produce function.
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And the argument that I think
for the brain is similar --
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that the mental
and the physical layers
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are interacting in some way
to produce
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these wonderful things
of consciousness and cognition.
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Freeman: So, we're all
just biological machines.
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The worst word
in the English language
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is "just," right?
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Just machines.
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We're fabulous machines.
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Freeman:
But can machines,
biological or mechanical,
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control their fate?
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Mike believes so.
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We may be filled
with automatic systems,
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but at a higher layer
of brain function,
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we are capable of making
free choices.
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To understand how,
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Mike says we need
to look at ourselves
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the way physicists look
at nature --
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as a set of complex systems
that emerge
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from the layers
of systems beneath them.
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Knowing how one layer works
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won't necessarily help you
understand another layer.
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The concept of emergence
is how physical entities,
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such as water,
at one level can't explain
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the next level of organization,
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which is how water at the sea
forms into waves.
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That is a different sort of set
of principles that are involved,
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and no way
by understanding water
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are you gonna understand
wave formation and execution.
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Freeman:
And our multilayered brains
are not isolated systems.
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In fact,
our brains are like cars.
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Cars are machines filled with
networks of precision parts,
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each with a specific function,
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but together forming
one complete system.
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But cars are not meant
to be stand-alone objects.
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[ Engine revs ]
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They are meant to share the road
with other vehicles,
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just as our brains are designed
to interact with other brains,
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and this, Mike feels,
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is the layer
where free will exists --
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the level
of personal responsibility.
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If you were
the only person in the world,
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there's no concept
of personal responsibility.
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What's it mean?
It doesn't mean anything.
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There's no one else
to be personally responsible to.
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So it is developed
out of the interactions
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that occur when
there's more than one person.
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Freeman:
Whenever we make a decision,
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our choice has a ripple effect
on the people around us,
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and those people
will punish us
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if we fail to follow
the rules of society.
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We may not have many options,
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but we are responsible
for our actions.
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Gazzaniga: Any network,
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the elements have to be held
accountable for their actions
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or the whole thing doesn't work.
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Freeman:
We follow sets of rules,
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but are free to make choices
within those boundaries...
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Or to completely ignore them.
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[ Horns honking ]
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Gazzaniga: Freedom means
getting more information
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so we get smarter and smarter
and wiser and wiser
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about all the things
that are going on around us.
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That's how
you can define freedom,
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but it's done through this very
beautiful, mechanistic machine
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that accomplishes
all these things.
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It's pretty cool.
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Freeman: But what happens
when we go beyond
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one-to-one,
personal interactions
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and out to the next layer,
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the layer
of mass social behavior?
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A new kind of science is finding
the societies we live in
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follow rules
as predictable as those
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guiding
the movements of the planets.
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This man is using them
to see the future
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and to see whether we have
any hope of changing it.
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Many christians say
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God gives us freedom to choose
between good and evil.
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We are all responsible
for our actions.
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But some denominations believe
God sets our course from birth.
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How much freedom
do we really have?
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Society puts limits
on our free will.
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In fact, a new science contends
that we can use equations
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to accurately predict
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what groups of people will do
in the future.
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Are we all prisoners of fate?
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Sean gourley is a two-time
New Zealand decathlon champion.
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He understands that mastering
certain fundamentals
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leads to a desired outcome.
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Sean is also a physicist.
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After working in nanotechnology,
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he turned his keen mind
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to the troubled world
around him.
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Why do we have
disease and epidemics
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that spread across the globe?
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Why do we have
financial market crashing?
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You know, why do we have
conflict and insurgency
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that we can't seem to wrap
our heads around?
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So, those, for me, were the
really, really big questions,
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and I guess
it was just coming at a point
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when there was enough data
coming online
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that we could start
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to actually take the techniques
from experimental physics
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and apply them to understanding
the world around us.
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Freeman:
Physicists describe nature
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using the language
of mathematics.
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Human behavior may seem
to live outside of this realm,
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but Sean says it, too,
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can be reduced
to mathematical predictability.
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Gourley: So, you know,
when you're out running hurdles,
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you're obeying
a set of physics equations.
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It's very predictable.
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If you measure the force
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at which
you drive across the hurdle,
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you'll be able to predict
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the time
that you finish the race in.
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And so on the track,
there's newtonian physics.
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When we work
into the world of insurgency
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or financial market crashes,
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it's the world
of nonlinear physics.
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It's chaos, and it's a different
type of physics,
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but it's a physics nonetheless.
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Freeman: Up close,
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the behavior of birds
seems chaotic.
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But when we stand back,
we see patterns at work.
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The same applies
to groups of people.
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Gourley: So, when you look
at people moving in the crowd,
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they've got a few basic
equations they want to optimize.
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Now, they're not necessarily
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consciously aware
of these equations.
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It's things like they want
to get from "a" to "b"
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as quick as possible
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or they want to do it in a way
that avoids obstacles,
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so they tend to follow
people in front of them
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and let the person in front
sort of act as a buffer.
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So, we start
to see these channels form
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of people kind of almost forming
little trains
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as they move through
the environment,
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and these trains last
for maybe a few seconds
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or maybe a few minutes
and then they break apart again.
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So, when you put the variables
of reaction,
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speed,
and kind of a goal in mind
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and you put a large
group of people together,
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you can
kind of start to model this
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with three or four variables.
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And with those
three or four variables,
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all of a sudden that swarm of
people ceases to become random
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and starts to become
predictable.
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Freeman:
The way Sean sees it,
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simple social rules
give rise to global patterns.
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If you can understand
the patterns,
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seemingly chaotic events
become predictable,
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and you can find ways
to change the patterns.
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[ Glass shatters ]
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[ Crowd shouting ]
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Wars have plagued humanity
for the whole of human history,
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but what if
we could see them coming?
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What if we could predict
a flash point
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and take steps
to stop it from happening?
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Sean and his colleagues at
the data analytics company quid
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collect
all available information
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about conflicts
around the globe,
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then they look for patterns
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that emerge
from the seeming chaos.
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They gained a reputation
in the defense community
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tracking the growth
of the insurgency in Iraq.
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Gourley: So, you've got
the collective actions
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of literally tens of thousands
of different individuals
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and, also, on the U.S. side,
as well,
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coming together to create
a statistical signature
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that none of them are aware of.
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Freeman: Sean has found a strict
mathematical relationship
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between the number of attacks
and their size.
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Gourley: It's a very,
very clean, straight line.
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Out of all the different things
that it could be, it chose this.
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[ Indistinct shouting ]
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Freeman: And the same patterns
of violence
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show up in armed conflicts
around the world,
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from Iraq to Colombia
to Afghanistan to Indonesia.
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Gourley:
We can actually start to
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very accurately predict
the likely size of an attack
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for any given time period
within the conflict.
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It's almost as if somebody came
and placed every dot,
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but, of course,
no one's placing every dot.
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This is people
that are out there
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to try and kill each other.
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Freeman:
But once you see this pattern,
when you know
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what the future will bring,
can you change it?
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Gourley: If we want
a different kind of future,
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we want to engineer the conflict
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to end up
in a different direction,
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we, as humans,
need to make decisions.
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We need to
target different groups.
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We need to think,
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is it normal to attack
big groups or small groups?
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Should I take things
out of the top level
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or should I take things
out of the bottom level?
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We've found patterns
that show how the world is.
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What we really want to get to
is patterns that show
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how the world will be,
based on the decisions we make.
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Freeman:
The more data we have,
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the better we can control
our fate.
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But will we ever
have enough data?
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Over the course
of human history,
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empire after empire
has discovered
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that altering the course
of world affairs is not easy.
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It may be that,
as the ancient greeks suspected,
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we can change small things
about our lives,
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but ultimately we are all in
the grip of an unavoidable fate.
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I think
when you've got free will,
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it's not an either/or.
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It's a "yes, but,"
and you have free will,
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like I had free will
at the running track
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to move the hurdles up or down.
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I can choose
what hurdle I want to go over,
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but I can't choose
to turn off gravity.
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And when I go into a war,
I can choose, on some level,
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my actions within,
you know, Iraq,
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but I can't change
the mathematical signature
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that underlies
the way I'm likely to die.
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And I think
that's a really difficult thing
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for us, as humans,
to wrap our heads around,
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because on the one hand
I can choose
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and on the other hand
I have no choice.
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Freeman: No matter how wild
we might be at heart,
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individual actions
can rarely change
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the course of human history.
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The power of free will
depends on
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what layer of existence
you examine --
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society or the individual.
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There are layers
in the natural world, too.
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The motions of galaxies,
stars, and planets
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follow strict laws
of cause and effect,
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with no room for free will.
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But down at the subatomic layer
of existence,
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is the universe
also wild at heart?
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Isaac Newton saw the universe
as a giant clock,
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beautifully intricate
but utterly predictable.
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With enough information,
you could know
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everything that will happen
until the end of time.
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In the 20th century,
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as we dug down
into the subatomic world,
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the predictability of
Newton's universe fell apart.
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In the quantum world,
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nothing is determined
until you look at it.
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[ Rapid ticking ]
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[ Rhythmic ticking ]
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But what if there's
an even deeper layer
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on a scale far smaller
than the quantum world,
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00:25:45,676 --> 00:25:50,047
a layer just as predictable
as the universe Newton imagined
502
00:25:50,047 --> 00:25:55,653
but following laws
we don't yet understand?
503
00:25:55,653 --> 00:26:00,957
Dutch physicist Gerard 't hooft
suspects it might be true.
504
00:26:00,957 --> 00:26:04,294
Gerard won the nobel prize
for his part in developing
505
00:26:04,294 --> 00:26:06,530
the standard model
of particle physics,
506
00:26:06,530 --> 00:26:10,533
our best description
of the quantum universe.
507
00:26:10,533 --> 00:26:13,403
If physics
is like a game of chess,
508
00:26:13,403 --> 00:26:16,873
Gerard is a grand master.
509
00:26:16,873 --> 00:26:18,876
But if you don't know the game,
510
00:26:18,876 --> 00:26:22,579
chess pieces seem to move in
completely unpredictable ways,
511
00:26:22,579 --> 00:26:27,017
and the same can be said
of quantum objects.
512
00:26:27,017 --> 00:26:31,254
Quantum physics suggests
it's impossible to ever know
513
00:26:31,254 --> 00:26:33,423
the precise location
of a particle
514
00:26:33,423 --> 00:26:37,027
and the movement of a particle
at the same time.
515
00:26:37,027 --> 00:26:41,765
This effect is called
quantum uncertainty.
516
00:26:41,765 --> 00:26:47,004
A particle can be here or there
or there but not in between,
517
00:26:47,004 --> 00:26:50,841
or a particle is here
or it isn't here.
518
00:26:50,841 --> 00:26:54,578
That's fine,
but there is another aspect
519
00:26:54,578 --> 00:26:57,915
to quantum mechanics
which is very strange,
520
00:26:57,915 --> 00:27:01,051
and that is that you can have
what you call interference.
521
00:27:01,051 --> 00:27:06,289
So, particles can be
in a position like this
522
00:27:06,289 --> 00:27:08,692
or in a position like this
or here,
523
00:27:08,692 --> 00:27:11,362
and then they also say
the particle can be
524
00:27:11,362 --> 00:27:13,964
in all these positions
at the same time.
525
00:27:13,964 --> 00:27:17,133
It is in an undecided position.
526
00:27:17,133 --> 00:27:20,471
Freeman:
As strange as this sounds,
527
00:27:20,471 --> 00:27:23,140
quantum uncertainty
has been tested
528
00:27:23,140 --> 00:27:25,575
and proven again and again.
529
00:27:25,575 --> 00:27:28,112
Quantum mechanics
is a superb theory,
530
00:27:28,112 --> 00:27:30,146
but it's not good enough
to my taste,
531
00:27:30,146 --> 00:27:34,451
and that's because it somehow
defies ordinary logic.
532
00:27:34,451 --> 00:27:37,287
Freeman: To find logic
in the quantum world,
533
00:27:37,287 --> 00:27:38,555
Gerard is probing
534
00:27:38,555 --> 00:27:40,791
the mathematical fundamentals
of quantum theory.
535
00:27:40,791 --> 00:27:44,594
Working at a level
few can comprehend,
536
00:27:44,594 --> 00:27:45,795
he has come to believe
537
00:27:45,795 --> 00:27:48,031
that despite
the seeming unpredictability
538
00:27:48,031 --> 00:27:51,268
of quantum particles,
the whole of existence
539
00:27:51,268 --> 00:27:54,238
follows a strict,
unbending set of rules,
540
00:27:54,238 --> 00:27:59,510
and the universe really does
control our fate.
541
00:27:59,510 --> 00:28:03,847
I like to view the universe
as a computing instrument,
542
00:28:03,847 --> 00:28:06,183
as a gigantic computer,
543
00:28:06,183 --> 00:28:10,287
a computer not different
from your laptop
544
00:28:10,287 --> 00:28:15,259
or from any other computer
except its size and its speed.
545
00:28:15,259 --> 00:28:18,028
The universe calculates
extremely fast
546
00:28:18,028 --> 00:28:21,932
and with extremely,
gigantically big memory,
547
00:28:21,932 --> 00:28:24,935
unlike any man-made object.
548
00:28:28,505 --> 00:28:29,840
Freeman:
Computers here on earth
549
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:33,543
operate using a binary code
of zeroes and ones,
550
00:28:33,543 --> 00:28:38,615
so where do we find the zeroes
and ones of the universe?
551
00:28:38,615 --> 00:28:41,318
It's a matter of scale.
552
00:28:41,318 --> 00:28:45,188
With normal vision, most of us
can spot a penny on the ground.
553
00:28:45,188 --> 00:28:47,625
But for Gerard to spot
a miniature coin
554
00:28:47,625 --> 00:28:49,893
on the sidewalk
of this miniature street
555
00:28:49,893 --> 00:28:52,496
is nearly impossible.
556
00:28:52,496 --> 00:28:54,131
And Gerard towers above
557
00:28:54,131 --> 00:28:57,968
something exponentially smaller
than this miniature coin,
558
00:28:57,968 --> 00:29:02,239
a scale trillions upon trillions
of times tinier
559
00:29:02,239 --> 00:29:04,007
than the width of an atom.
560
00:29:04,007 --> 00:29:08,445
This is the planck scale,
561
00:29:08,445 --> 00:29:13,349
the basic level of measurement
of the universe.
562
00:29:13,349 --> 00:29:16,854
It's here at the very bottom
layer of existence
563
00:29:16,854 --> 00:29:18,889
that Gerard believes
we will find
564
00:29:18,889 --> 00:29:22,125
the basic bits of information
at the heart of creation --
565
00:29:22,125 --> 00:29:26,563
what he calls
beables and changeables,
566
00:29:26,563 --> 00:29:31,068
binary particles that can
only give yes or no answers,
567
00:29:31,068 --> 00:29:32,903
not maybes.
568
00:29:32,903 --> 00:29:38,442
This layer exists far beneath
the quantum layers we see today.
569
00:29:38,442 --> 00:29:39,909
'T hooft: So, I believe that
570
00:29:39,909 --> 00:29:42,579
is the scale where
everything actually happens,
571
00:29:42,579 --> 00:29:44,848
where everything becomes
deterministic.
572
00:29:44,848 --> 00:29:49,520
Freeman:
Gerard's calculations indicate
that at the planck scale,
573
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:51,821
the universe
is not a game of chess,
574
00:29:51,821 --> 00:29:53,957
where pieces move
in strange ways
575
00:29:53,957 --> 00:29:56,626
and jump across vast terrain.
576
00:29:56,626 --> 00:30:00,630
The universe
is a game of checkers,
577
00:30:00,630 --> 00:30:03,367
a binary world where one frame
578
00:30:03,367 --> 00:30:05,535
can only affect
an adjoining frame.
579
00:30:05,535 --> 00:30:08,805
'T hooft:
Think of a checkerboard
580
00:30:08,805 --> 00:30:11,608
with billions and billions
of squares,
581
00:30:11,608 --> 00:30:12,909
and now you look
at a checkerboard
582
00:30:12,909 --> 00:30:14,111
from a great distance.
583
00:30:14,111 --> 00:30:16,946
You can no longer
follow in detail what happens.
584
00:30:16,946 --> 00:30:20,050
It looks to you
as if chaos takes over,
585
00:30:20,050 --> 00:30:22,820
as if things are undetermined.
586
00:30:22,820 --> 00:30:25,956
So, I believe that's
the origin of quantum mechanics.
587
00:30:25,956 --> 00:30:28,992
We can no longer predict things
with infinite precision
588
00:30:28,992 --> 00:30:32,062
because you're not under control
at all
589
00:30:32,062 --> 00:30:35,232
of what happens
in all extreme details,
590
00:30:35,232 --> 00:30:36,867
as we would like it.
591
00:30:36,867 --> 00:30:39,737
Freeman:
At its deepest level,
592
00:30:39,737 --> 00:30:43,540
the universe may be
an enormous checkerboard,
593
00:30:43,540 --> 00:30:49,179
and everything happening in it
is a product of its moves.
594
00:30:49,179 --> 00:30:52,248
But at the layer of reality
we perceive,
595
00:30:52,248 --> 00:30:55,018
these basic patterns
can't be seen.
596
00:30:55,018 --> 00:30:56,553
Although our actions
597
00:30:56,553 --> 00:30:59,690
are ultimately determined
by the universe,
598
00:30:59,690 --> 00:31:03,293
it feels like we have free will.
599
00:31:03,293 --> 00:31:04,494
But one physicist feels
600
00:31:04,494 --> 00:31:06,830
the fuzziness
of quantum mechanics
601
00:31:06,830 --> 00:31:10,367
allows for genuine free will.
602
00:31:10,367 --> 00:31:14,170
He says cause and effect may not
be what we think they are,
603
00:31:14,170 --> 00:31:18,108
because the future
can reach back in time
604
00:31:18,108 --> 00:31:20,444
and affect the present.
605
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:30,005
The hindu concept of karma
maintains every act,
606
00:31:30,005 --> 00:31:33,809
good or bad,
no matter how insignificant,
607
00:31:33,809 --> 00:31:38,614
will eventually return to
the doer with equal impact.
608
00:31:38,614 --> 00:31:43,686
Karma is the moral law
of cause and effect.
609
00:31:43,686 --> 00:31:47,122
What if this works in reverse?
610
00:31:47,122 --> 00:31:50,392
What if the things we will do
in the future
611
00:31:50,392 --> 00:31:55,565
affect what happened
in the past?
612
00:31:58,433 --> 00:32:04,206
This physicist has a new way of
looking at quantum mechanics,
613
00:32:04,206 --> 00:32:06,942
a way that shows free will
is written into
614
00:32:06,942 --> 00:32:10,646
the fundamental structure
of the universe.
615
00:32:13,882 --> 00:32:16,285
Ken wharton is a Professor
616
00:32:16,285 --> 00:32:19,288
at San Jose state university
in California.
617
00:32:19,288 --> 00:32:22,925
Since he was a little boy,
he has been fascinated
618
00:32:22,925 --> 00:32:26,228
by the idea that
fundamental laws of nature
619
00:32:26,228 --> 00:32:31,600
can explain nearly everything
in our day-to-day existence.
620
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:34,503
When I was a kid,
my parents took home movies,
621
00:32:34,503 --> 00:32:36,705
and we watched them
on actual film,
622
00:32:36,705 --> 00:32:40,076
and the thing about actual film
is after you play it,
623
00:32:40,076 --> 00:32:44,046
you have to rewind the film.
624
00:32:44,046 --> 00:32:45,881
And you could
leave the projector running
625
00:32:45,881 --> 00:32:47,549
while you did this,
and we often did,
626
00:32:47,549 --> 00:32:48,718
and we laughed at
627
00:32:48,718 --> 00:32:50,886
how funny everything looked
running backward.
628
00:32:50,886 --> 00:32:53,755
But my father was a physicist,
and he would tell me --
629
00:32:53,755 --> 00:32:55,091
I distinctly remember --
630
00:32:55,091 --> 00:32:57,392
"Ken,
everything you're seeing here
631
00:32:57,392 --> 00:32:59,828
"still obeys
the same laws of physics,
632
00:32:59,828 --> 00:33:01,429
running either direction."
633
00:33:01,429 --> 00:33:04,900
And I've always tried
to grapple with this question
634
00:33:04,900 --> 00:33:07,069
of how something
that can look so different
635
00:33:07,069 --> 00:33:11,273
might still obey
the same laws of physics.
636
00:33:11,273 --> 00:33:13,542
Freeman:
Can the laws of physics
637
00:33:13,542 --> 00:33:16,878
also predict
the choices that people make?
638
00:33:16,878 --> 00:33:19,614
Are there fundamental rules
that,
639
00:33:19,614 --> 00:33:23,018
when everything is set in motion
from a given starting position,
640
00:33:23,018 --> 00:33:29,291
lead us inevitably to one
and only one possible outcome?
641
00:33:29,291 --> 00:33:32,428
Einstein thought so.
642
00:33:34,162 --> 00:33:36,298
His theory of relativity
tells us
643
00:33:36,298 --> 00:33:39,034
we live in something called
a block universe,
644
00:33:39,034 --> 00:33:41,870
in which all of space
and all of time
645
00:33:41,870 --> 00:33:44,239
are laid out
like a roll of film,
646
00:33:44,239 --> 00:33:49,512
where the past, present,
and future all exist at once.
647
00:33:51,379 --> 00:33:55,684
This, Ken says, means
the future can affect the past,
648
00:33:55,684 --> 00:34:00,055
just as the past
affects the future.
649
00:34:00,055 --> 00:34:03,225
The future is not just
some series of random events.
650
00:34:03,225 --> 00:34:04,792
There are correlations
between the present
651
00:34:04,792 --> 00:34:06,160
and the future
that we can predict.
652
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:09,231
That's what science does.
653
00:34:09,231 --> 00:34:11,399
And in the course of
making these predictions,
654
00:34:11,399 --> 00:34:14,636
it's more natural
to think of the universe
655
00:34:14,636 --> 00:34:16,571
as being
one continuous structure
656
00:34:16,571 --> 00:34:18,874
rather than being
a bunch of frames cut up
657
00:34:18,874 --> 00:34:20,443
and spread all over the floor.
658
00:34:24,913 --> 00:34:28,884
Freeman:
Ken believes that all events --
even quantum events --
659
00:34:28,884 --> 00:34:33,589
have a definite starting point
and a definite ending point,
660
00:34:33,589 --> 00:34:39,862
but there is uncertainty
in what happens in between.
661
00:34:39,862 --> 00:34:43,498
The way to make sense of this
is retrocausality,
662
00:34:43,498 --> 00:34:46,368
the idea that it is
our future choice
663
00:34:46,368 --> 00:34:49,605
that causes that uncertainty.
664
00:34:49,605 --> 00:34:54,777
Freeman: Retrocausality means
the future affects the past.
665
00:34:56,044 --> 00:35:00,182
The beginning and ending
of events are fixed in time,
666
00:35:00,182 --> 00:35:02,184
but Ken argues quantum physics
667
00:35:02,184 --> 00:35:05,287
creates flexibility
in the middle,
668
00:35:05,287 --> 00:35:10,726
and that flexibility offers us
the chance to control our fate.
669
00:35:10,726 --> 00:35:12,594
In the newtonian clockwork
universe,
670
00:35:12,594 --> 00:35:16,464
the initial state and the laws
determine everything there is.
671
00:35:16,464 --> 00:35:18,934
There's no freedom,
given the initial state.
672
00:35:18,934 --> 00:35:22,637
In a time-symmetric universe,
673
00:35:22,637 --> 00:35:24,072
it's not obvious that
that's true,
674
00:35:24,072 --> 00:35:25,574
because
if something is dependent
675
00:35:25,574 --> 00:35:29,311
not only on the initial state,
but equally on the final state,
676
00:35:29,311 --> 00:35:34,216
now those intermediate events
aren't predetermined
677
00:35:34,216 --> 00:35:37,286
in the sense they're not
determined by the initial state.
678
00:35:37,286 --> 00:35:41,357
They might eventually be
determined,
679
00:35:41,357 --> 00:35:46,094
but there's more wiggle room
for free will.
680
00:35:46,094 --> 00:35:47,963
Freeman: In other words,
681
00:35:47,963 --> 00:35:50,932
the end points of our fates
may be fixed,
682
00:35:50,932 --> 00:35:55,671
but we don't know how precisely
we will reach them.
683
00:35:55,671 --> 00:36:00,876
Wharton: I don't know what
I'm gonna decide in one minute,
684
00:36:00,876 --> 00:36:03,344
and yet that decision
will be made.
685
00:36:03,344 --> 00:36:04,947
It will be determined.
686
00:36:04,947 --> 00:36:09,251
So, there is a perfect example
of something that I don't know
687
00:36:09,251 --> 00:36:13,222
and is not possibly
not determined just by the past,
688
00:36:13,222 --> 00:36:16,292
but nevertheless
will eventually be determined.
689
00:36:21,196 --> 00:36:24,966
Freeman:
As we sail into the future,
690
00:36:24,966 --> 00:36:27,836
do we really have the freedom
to set our own course?
691
00:36:27,836 --> 00:36:33,442
This man thinks the fate of
humanity hangs on how you, me,
692
00:36:33,442 --> 00:36:36,879
and everyone else
answers this question,
693
00:36:36,879 --> 00:36:40,515
because
if we give up on free will,
694
00:36:40,515 --> 00:36:42,418
humanity could be doomed.
695
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:46,735
The debate over just how much
696
00:36:46,735 --> 00:36:49,637
or how little freedom
we have to choose our fate
697
00:36:49,637 --> 00:36:52,674
has raged
for thousands of years.
698
00:36:52,674 --> 00:36:56,044
It may go on
for millennia to come.
699
00:36:56,044 --> 00:36:58,947
No matter who is actually right,
700
00:36:58,947 --> 00:37:03,718
it certainly feels like
we have free will, doesn't it?
701
00:37:03,718 --> 00:37:06,855
What if
believing we have a choice
702
00:37:06,855 --> 00:37:11,326
is necessary for
the survival of the human race?
703
00:37:14,363 --> 00:37:19,668
In 1994, a young man named
Jonathan schooler picked up
704
00:37:19,668 --> 00:37:24,005
a book by nobel prize-winning
scientist Francis crick.
705
00:37:24,005 --> 00:37:28,343
In it, crick wrote,
"you are, in fact,
706
00:37:28,343 --> 00:37:32,481
"no more than the behavior of
a vast assembly of nerve cells
707
00:37:32,481 --> 00:37:35,317
and their associated molecules."
708
00:37:37,819 --> 00:37:41,924
Jonathan schooler eventually
became a neuroscientist.
709
00:37:41,924 --> 00:37:44,226
Today he's a star Professor
710
00:37:44,226 --> 00:37:47,696
at the university of California,
Santa Barbara,
711
00:37:47,696 --> 00:37:50,932
but he's still troubled
by crick's book.
712
00:37:50,932 --> 00:37:53,068
I was really taken with
Francis crick's
713
00:37:53,068 --> 00:37:55,637
"the astonishing hypothesis"
for several reasons.
714
00:37:55,637 --> 00:37:58,540
First off,
he said in absolute terms
715
00:37:58,540 --> 00:38:00,576
that science
had conclusively ruled out
716
00:38:00,576 --> 00:38:01,910
the existence of free will,
717
00:38:01,910 --> 00:38:03,945
and I just wasn't
really persuaded that
718
00:38:03,945 --> 00:38:05,914
that degree of certainty
was merited.
719
00:38:07,516 --> 00:38:11,419
Freeman:
Crick's beliefs have only become
more popular over time,
720
00:38:11,419 --> 00:38:12,921
so a few years ago,
721
00:38:12,921 --> 00:38:15,623
Jonathan began
running experiments
722
00:38:15,623 --> 00:38:19,260
to see how this message
of strict determinism
723
00:38:19,260 --> 00:38:21,329
affects people's behavior.
724
00:38:21,329 --> 00:38:22,831
In today's experiment,
725
00:38:22,831 --> 00:38:26,301
a series of students
will have their morality tested,
726
00:38:26,301 --> 00:38:29,537
but only after
they are exposed to
727
00:38:29,537 --> 00:38:33,942
messages about the nature
of fate and free will.
728
00:38:33,942 --> 00:38:35,310
At the end of the experiment,
729
00:38:35,310 --> 00:38:38,780
they will fill out
a short survey and then be paid
730
00:38:38,780 --> 00:38:42,618
with a dollar coin
taken from this jar.
731
00:38:42,618 --> 00:38:45,621
Some of the students
read statements
732
00:38:45,621 --> 00:38:47,455
designed to induce a feeling
733
00:38:47,455 --> 00:38:50,159
that they are pawns
of biology and fate.
734
00:38:55,997 --> 00:38:58,066
Other students read statements
735
00:38:58,066 --> 00:39:00,936
that bolster
their belief in free will.
736
00:39:07,375 --> 00:39:12,481
Then all of the participants
are given a cognitive test,
737
00:39:12,481 --> 00:39:14,349
but before they can finish,
738
00:39:14,349 --> 00:39:17,152
Jonathan pretends
to be called away.
739
00:39:17,152 --> 00:39:19,520
Oh, dear, I'm late.
740
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,890
I'm gonna need you
to grade the test yourself.
741
00:39:22,890 --> 00:39:25,594
I'll give you the key,
and then score yourself $1.00
742
00:39:25,594 --> 00:39:30,665
for every one
that you got correct, okay?
743
00:39:30,665 --> 00:39:33,467
Will the messages
the students saw earlier
744
00:39:33,467 --> 00:39:36,505
affect their behavior?
745
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:42,878
Most students only get
a question or two correct.
746
00:39:42,878 --> 00:39:45,780
Some pay themselves accordingly.
747
00:39:45,780 --> 00:39:52,821
But other students
take more than their share.
748
00:39:52,821 --> 00:39:54,789
Schooler:
Those people who were told
749
00:39:54,789 --> 00:39:56,892
there's no such thing
as free will
750
00:39:56,892 --> 00:39:59,261
consistently took more coins
751
00:39:59,261 --> 00:40:01,830
than those who were not
given that information.
752
00:40:09,237 --> 00:40:10,572
In other words,
753
00:40:10,572 --> 00:40:13,041
telling people there's
no such thing as free will
754
00:40:13,041 --> 00:40:15,509
to some degree
undermines their capacity
755
00:40:15,509 --> 00:40:17,045
to act in a moral manner.
756
00:40:17,045 --> 00:40:19,780
Freeman: Jonathan suspects
757
00:40:19,780 --> 00:40:24,119
believing you are just a pawn
in a cosmic chess game
758
00:40:24,119 --> 00:40:28,456
gives people an excuse
for bad behavior.
759
00:40:28,456 --> 00:40:31,693
"Don't blame me.
I don't have free will."
760
00:40:31,693 --> 00:40:33,328
Schooler:
Another possibility is
761
00:40:33,328 --> 00:40:34,896
it kind of pulls the rug out
from underneath them,
762
00:40:34,896 --> 00:40:37,865
that they have this experience
of will normally,
763
00:40:37,865 --> 00:40:39,668
but when you tell them they have
no such thing as free will,
764
00:40:39,668 --> 00:40:43,070
they just don't have the oomph
to be able to prevent themselves
765
00:40:43,070 --> 00:40:46,008
from resisting the temptation
of avoiding cheating.
766
00:40:49,077 --> 00:40:50,812
Freeman:
Like all thinking people,
767
00:40:50,812 --> 00:40:53,114
Jonathan has
his own views on free will.
768
00:40:53,114 --> 00:40:58,853
He accepts that we are shaped
by genetics, society,
769
00:40:58,853 --> 00:41:01,590
and the deep workings
of the universe,
770
00:41:01,590 --> 00:41:04,859
but he also sees a place
for conscious choice.
771
00:41:04,859 --> 00:41:07,762
From my vantage,
free will is a lot like sailing.
772
00:41:07,762 --> 00:41:11,099
When you sail, you're buffeted
around by the currents,
773
00:41:11,099 --> 00:41:13,034
by the weather, by the wind.
774
00:41:13,034 --> 00:41:14,502
Nevertheless,
you're able to set a tack,
775
00:41:14,502 --> 00:41:15,737
and even though
you can't control
776
00:41:15,737 --> 00:41:17,372
where you are
at any given moment necessarily,
777
00:41:17,372 --> 00:41:19,774
if you set your tack right,
778
00:41:19,774 --> 00:41:22,911
you can end up largely
where you want to go.
779
00:41:22,911 --> 00:41:25,447
Freeman:
This is what Jonathan believes,
780
00:41:25,447 --> 00:41:28,483
but neither he nor anyone else
can prove it.
781
00:41:28,483 --> 00:41:30,786
Schooler: Although we've learned
a great deal
782
00:41:30,786 --> 00:41:32,587
about the nature
of human consciousness,
783
00:41:32,587 --> 00:41:34,855
about the nature of reality,
about physics and so on,
784
00:41:34,855 --> 00:41:36,058
given what we don't know,
785
00:41:36,058 --> 00:41:37,792
I think
we need to be very cautious
786
00:41:37,792 --> 00:41:39,795
about ruling out
the existence of something
787
00:41:39,795 --> 00:41:41,496
that's so fundamental
as free will.
788
00:41:41,496 --> 00:41:45,199
And keeping that option open,
789
00:41:45,199 --> 00:41:47,001
allowing people to be free to
believe in free will,
790
00:41:47,001 --> 00:41:50,438
seems to be a really good idea,
because free will --
791
00:41:50,438 --> 00:41:52,407
at least
the belief in free will --
792
00:41:52,407 --> 00:41:54,509
seems to be of great value
to people.
793
00:42:01,182 --> 00:42:04,819
Whether or not
the universe controls our fate,
794
00:42:04,819 --> 00:42:08,189
humans will always
be compelled to ask,
795
00:42:08,189 --> 00:42:10,825
why is this happening?
796
00:42:10,825 --> 00:42:13,895
We will always work for change,
797
00:42:13,895 --> 00:42:17,031
because even if our courses
are predetermined,
798
00:42:17,031 --> 00:42:20,935
we don't know them
and probably never will.
799
00:42:20,935 --> 00:42:25,540
For us, every day
is a new chance for discovery,
800
00:42:25,540 --> 00:42:29,044
a new opportunity to
take control of our destiny...
801
00:42:29,044 --> 00:42:32,180
Illusion or not.
64622
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