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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,335 --> 00:00:04,601 Narrator: In the criminal justice system, the people are represented 2 00:00:04,638 --> 00:00:06,800 by two separate yet equally important groups... 3 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:08,934 The police who investigate crime, 4 00:00:08,976 --> 00:00:11,343 and the district attorneys who prosecute the offenders. 5 00:00:11,378 --> 00:00:13,506 These are their stories. 6 00:00:40,707 --> 00:00:42,539 Watch it, girl! 7 00:00:45,379 --> 00:00:47,507 Get away from me! 8 00:00:51,385 --> 00:00:53,684 Officer: I bet you never cut class either. 9 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:57,350 Me? I was a fine, upstanding picture of American manhood. 10 00:00:57,391 --> 00:00:59,019 Yes, sure. 11 00:00:59,059 --> 00:01:00,891 Look at this. 12 00:01:01,995 --> 00:01:03,395 Get off of me! 13 00:01:06,500 --> 00:01:08,128 Okay, you two, take it easy! 14 00:01:08,168 --> 00:01:10,467 - Take it easy! - I was just trying to help her. 15 00:01:10,504 --> 00:01:12,302 She's going to get run over, man. 16 00:01:12,339 --> 00:01:14,137 They grabbed me, 17 00:01:14,174 --> 00:01:15,608 they pushed me down... 18 00:01:18,011 --> 00:01:19,639 Give me a little help here. 19 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:21,740 - Come on, darling. - Come on, get up. 20 00:01:23,183 --> 00:01:25,152 Sophomore, University of Manhattan. 21 00:01:25,185 --> 00:01:26,983 Says she was raped by several men... 22 00:01:27,020 --> 00:01:28,488 Halloween party. 23 00:01:28,522 --> 00:01:30,491 No vaginal or perineal abrasions. 24 00:01:30,524 --> 00:01:32,152 You get any signs of intercourse? 25 00:01:32,192 --> 00:01:34,661 - There was semen present. - Did you send out the kit? 26 00:01:34,695 --> 00:01:36,664 Also ran a blood test. She was drunk. 27 00:01:36,697 --> 00:01:38,325 - How drunk? - Very. 28 00:01:38,365 --> 00:01:41,494 If she'd been driving, she'd be under arrest. Blood alcohol's .13. 29 00:01:41,535 --> 00:01:44,004 - All right, can we talk to her? - She's out cold. 30 00:01:44,037 --> 00:01:46,506 And I don't know how much she's going to remember. 31 00:01:46,540 --> 00:01:49,339 Doc, can we stop the waltz? What are you saying? 32 00:01:49,376 --> 00:01:52,005 Obvious emotional trauma. Rape? 33 00:01:52,045 --> 00:01:54,207 We offered her a counselor, she said no. 34 00:03:27,674 --> 00:03:30,644 Girl: I was invited to the party. 35 00:03:30,677 --> 00:03:32,646 By the men who assaulted you? 36 00:03:32,679 --> 00:03:34,477 My fiancé, Gary Burnham. 37 00:03:34,514 --> 00:03:36,244 He was a pledge at Theta Phi. 38 00:03:36,283 --> 00:03:37,911 Your fiancé assaulted you? 39 00:03:37,951 --> 00:03:40,580 No. 40 00:03:40,620 --> 00:03:43,055 Look, can you identify the boys who did this? 41 00:03:43,090 --> 00:03:45,821 Somebody helped me upstairs. 42 00:03:45,859 --> 00:03:47,828 It was some kind of... 43 00:03:47,861 --> 00:03:50,729 he was wearing some kind of animal. 44 00:03:50,764 --> 00:03:52,062 What kind of animal? 45 00:03:53,533 --> 00:03:55,195 What color? 46 00:03:57,871 --> 00:03:59,999 It was light, I think, 47 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:02,908 maybe, gray or brown. 48 00:04:05,145 --> 00:04:07,808 Can't you give us a little better idea of what went on? 49 00:04:10,484 --> 00:04:13,113 They offered me a drink... 50 00:04:13,153 --> 00:04:14,815 Logan: Who? 51 00:04:16,156 --> 00:04:18,091 I'm not sure... 52 00:04:18,125 --> 00:04:19,991 it's all fuzzy. 53 00:04:21,495 --> 00:04:24,954 But I think Ted Campion and Joel Holder, 54 00:04:24,998 --> 00:04:27,092 two of Gary's friends were there. 55 00:04:27,134 --> 00:04:29,296 And I'm pretty sure it was Ted 56 00:04:29,336 --> 00:04:31,464 that had the bottle... scotch. 57 00:04:31,505 --> 00:04:33,133 I was drinking from it... 58 00:04:37,344 --> 00:04:40,007 and I think there was something over my face. 59 00:04:43,850 --> 00:04:47,014 And they were on top of me and I tried to scream. 60 00:04:52,192 --> 00:04:54,491 I must have passed out. 61 00:04:54,528 --> 00:04:56,190 The next thing... 62 00:04:58,031 --> 00:04:59,966 I was alone in the room, 63 00:05:01,802 --> 00:05:03,998 looking for my clothes. 64 00:05:04,037 --> 00:05:06,563 So, Ted and Joel assaulted you? 65 00:05:09,142 --> 00:05:10,804 I think so. 66 00:05:12,145 --> 00:05:14,273 You know, you had been drinking a little bit. 67 00:05:14,314 --> 00:05:17,148 Rape's a serious accusation based on "I think so." 68 00:05:20,153 --> 00:05:22,452 I was drunk and I was scared. 69 00:05:22,489 --> 00:05:24,617 But I know what happened. 70 00:05:24,658 --> 00:05:26,650 I was raped. 71 00:05:28,328 --> 00:05:31,628 She said what? This is crazy. 72 00:05:31,665 --> 00:05:33,463 Joel, did you even see her? 73 00:05:33,500 --> 00:05:35,492 I didn't even know she was here. 74 00:05:35,535 --> 00:05:37,299 Is this serious? 75 00:05:37,337 --> 00:05:40,637 Maybe we should talk to a lawyer. 76 00:05:40,674 --> 00:05:43,303 We never even went upstairs. 77 00:05:43,343 --> 00:05:45,642 Look, guys, this didn't happen. 78 00:05:45,679 --> 00:05:48,148 A girl comes to your party 79 00:05:48,181 --> 00:05:50,878 and just for the hell of it she charges rape? 80 00:05:50,917 --> 00:05:53,250 Everybody knows about Andrea. 81 00:05:53,286 --> 00:05:55,812 We don't know, why don't you fill us in? 82 00:05:55,856 --> 00:05:58,985 A pledge of ours, Gary Burnham, 83 00:05:59,025 --> 00:06:01,756 he was getting serious about her. 84 00:06:01,795 --> 00:06:04,765 A freshman. He didn't know about her reputation. 85 00:06:04,798 --> 00:06:09,099 - About which you so generously informed him. - She's an easy score, okay? 86 00:06:09,135 --> 00:06:11,934 - Gary's a little naive. - Gary dropped her. 87 00:06:11,972 --> 00:06:13,770 She stormed in here last week, 88 00:06:13,807 --> 00:06:15,503 claimed we ruined her life. 89 00:06:15,542 --> 00:06:17,704 And then she said we'd regret it. 90 00:06:22,148 --> 00:06:23,776 You don't mind if we call in 91 00:06:23,817 --> 00:06:26,048 a few technicians to look around, do you? 92 00:06:27,220 --> 00:06:28,745 No problem. 93 00:06:28,788 --> 00:06:31,417 You know the wolf pack is having a feast here. 94 00:06:31,458 --> 00:06:33,290 Where are they getting this stuff? 95 00:06:33,326 --> 00:06:36,558 - Somebody at the hospital. - Did CSU find anything in the boys' room? 96 00:06:36,596 --> 00:06:39,464 No. No hair, no fiber, no nothing. 97 00:06:39,499 --> 00:06:42,731 I gotta tell you, if these boys are lying, they're cool about it. 98 00:06:42,769 --> 00:06:44,965 Granted. Except their story makes no sense. 99 00:06:45,005 --> 00:06:47,804 If she wants revenge, why didn't she give us a sure ID? 100 00:06:47,841 --> 00:06:50,811 - Why make it hard on herself? - Maybe she didn't want it to sound so pat. 101 00:06:50,844 --> 00:06:52,972 - It gives her an out if things go wrong. - Come on. 102 00:06:53,013 --> 00:06:55,642 You want revenge, you don't turn your life into a circus. 103 00:06:55,682 --> 00:06:58,151 What am I hearing here? This girl's not on trial. 104 00:06:58,184 --> 00:06:59,584 I know, but we got no witnesses. 105 00:06:59,619 --> 00:07:01,417 So far nobody even saw her there. 106 00:07:01,454 --> 00:07:04,267 These fraternity brothers are gonna say Joel and Ted never left the party. 107 00:07:04,291 --> 00:07:07,261 And that Andrea made a public threat. 108 00:07:07,294 --> 00:07:09,490 Aw, gee... somebody's lying. 109 00:07:10,997 --> 00:07:13,432 Well, that makes you detective of the month. 110 00:07:13,466 --> 00:07:17,301 Any bets on who? Did they log who she called from the hospital? 111 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:23,269 An advisor, English professor. 112 00:07:23,310 --> 00:07:25,609 She was afraid to call her mother. 113 00:07:25,645 --> 00:07:28,774 Students, sometimes they make us their mothers. 114 00:07:28,815 --> 00:07:30,943 How do you like your new daughter? 115 00:07:30,984 --> 00:07:34,284 What's not to like? Wants to take every course in the department. 116 00:07:34,321 --> 00:07:36,688 How about her social life? 117 00:07:36,723 --> 00:07:38,624 It was active. 118 00:07:38,658 --> 00:07:40,786 You mean she had a lot of boyfriends? 119 00:07:40,827 --> 00:07:42,955 Her parents divorced when she was six. 120 00:07:42,996 --> 00:07:45,591 Is she looking for a male figure in her life? Sure. 121 00:07:45,632 --> 00:07:47,362 How about if she got one and lost him? 122 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:50,962 You think she would be capable of wanting to get back at him? 123 00:07:51,004 --> 00:07:52,802 Am I getting a message here? 124 00:07:52,839 --> 00:07:55,138 You have some doubt Andrea was raped? 125 00:07:55,175 --> 00:07:57,144 - You think she made it up? - Did I say that? 126 00:07:58,678 --> 00:08:01,045 There is nothing so powerful as the unspoken. 127 00:08:03,616 --> 00:08:07,246 Did she get along as well with women as she did with men? 128 00:08:07,287 --> 00:08:09,085 I advise a student, Betsy Rawls. 129 00:08:09,122 --> 00:08:11,421 Works in the college bookstore with Andrea. 130 00:08:11,458 --> 00:08:15,088 That is, if you want to talk to people who like her. 131 00:08:16,329 --> 00:08:18,093 Poor Andrea. 132 00:08:18,131 --> 00:08:20,930 She sends out a come-on without even knowing it. 133 00:08:20,967 --> 00:08:23,630 Are you saying she asked for this to happen? 134 00:08:23,670 --> 00:08:26,936 Do they give you guys insensitivity seminars? 135 00:08:28,708 --> 00:08:30,939 No woman asks to be raped. 136 00:08:30,977 --> 00:08:33,139 I'm just saying she gives it off. 137 00:08:34,314 --> 00:08:36,647 You know, heat, pheromones? 138 00:08:37,817 --> 00:08:41,515 Men hit on her, it's not her fault. 139 00:08:41,554 --> 00:08:43,420 - What about the boyfriend? - Gary? 140 00:08:43,456 --> 00:08:47,951 He's sweet, but Andrea has a good imagination. 141 00:08:47,994 --> 00:08:49,895 Marriage, fiancé? 142 00:08:49,929 --> 00:08:52,728 - He's 18. - I got married, I was 20. 143 00:08:52,766 --> 00:08:55,736 It's a different generation, Sergeant. 144 00:08:58,271 --> 00:09:00,467 Do you want my opinion? 145 00:09:00,507 --> 00:09:03,067 Andrea doesn't know who the hell she is. 146 00:09:09,449 --> 00:09:11,577 She said I was her fiancé? 147 00:09:11,618 --> 00:09:13,587 We just dated, that's all. 148 00:09:13,620 --> 00:09:16,954 - Did you have a date with her last night? - What's this about? 149 00:09:16,990 --> 00:09:19,425 Andrea says she was raped at your fraternity house 150 00:09:19,459 --> 00:09:21,451 last night during a Halloween party. 151 00:09:22,629 --> 00:09:24,097 Oh my God. 152 00:09:24,130 --> 00:09:25,826 Did you see her there? 153 00:09:27,967 --> 00:09:29,993 Why would she be there? We broke up. 154 00:09:31,137 --> 00:09:34,437 Why did you break up with her, Gary? 155 00:09:34,474 --> 00:09:37,967 I met her, she's very sophisticated. 156 00:09:39,479 --> 00:09:41,812 Dating a sophomore, it made me feel good. 157 00:09:45,652 --> 00:09:47,382 I found out some things about her. 158 00:09:47,420 --> 00:09:50,083 When you broke it off, was she very upset? 159 00:09:50,123 --> 00:09:52,957 She called me all the time, showed up at my classes. 160 00:09:52,992 --> 00:09:54,984 The whole thing got way out of control. 161 00:09:55,028 --> 00:09:57,827 It's funny, she doesn't seem that intimidating to me. 162 00:09:57,864 --> 00:10:00,163 I never knew what she'd do next. 163 00:10:01,167 --> 00:10:02,829 Want to see what I mean? 164 00:10:06,005 --> 00:10:08,167 This is the last letter she sent me. 165 00:10:12,011 --> 00:10:15,311 "If you hurt me, I promise I'll hurt you worse. 166 00:10:15,348 --> 00:10:17,340 I'll ruin your life." 167 00:10:21,488 --> 00:10:23,320 The boyfriend says she's a wacko. 168 00:10:23,356 --> 00:10:25,325 She says they're going to get married. 169 00:10:25,358 --> 00:10:27,827 - They're kids. That's how they talk. - She comes on to guys. 170 00:10:27,861 --> 00:10:30,990 - She doesn't mean to. - And she can't quite point the finger at who raped her. 171 00:10:31,030 --> 00:10:32,658 What the hell do you want? 172 00:10:32,699 --> 00:10:34,497 Signed confessions from the boys 173 00:10:34,534 --> 00:10:36,230 and a dozen witnesses? 174 00:10:36,269 --> 00:10:39,671 What I want is a victim who can testify to the DA without killing the case. 175 00:10:39,706 --> 00:10:42,175 Right now they'd be lucky to get an indictment. 176 00:10:42,208 --> 00:10:44,700 Let's talk to the roommate. 177 00:10:44,744 --> 00:10:48,044 After Barbara and I moved in last year, they raised the rent. 178 00:10:49,549 --> 00:10:51,177 We put up a notice, Andrea called, 179 00:10:51,217 --> 00:10:53,516 and she took the apartment sight unseen. 180 00:10:53,553 --> 00:10:56,045 - That's a little impulsive. - That's Andrea. 181 00:10:56,089 --> 00:10:58,354 Changes courses every other day. 182 00:10:58,391 --> 00:10:59,859 Boyfriends, too? 183 00:10:59,893 --> 00:11:02,294 No more than most women today. 184 00:11:02,328 --> 00:11:04,797 - That's one man's opinion. - Okay. 185 00:11:04,831 --> 00:11:06,800 Maybe a little more than most. 186 00:11:06,833 --> 00:11:08,461 But she was frank about it. 187 00:11:08,501 --> 00:11:11,061 She likes men. There's nothing wrong with that. 188 00:11:11,104 --> 00:11:13,130 When Andrea got back from the hospital, 189 00:11:13,173 --> 00:11:15,642 did she talk about anything that had happened? 190 00:11:15,675 --> 00:11:18,509 - Yes. She said she had been raped. - Any details? 191 00:11:20,680 --> 00:11:22,808 Well, it was all pretty confused. 192 00:11:22,849 --> 00:11:24,818 There's something about a room, 193 00:11:24,851 --> 00:11:27,650 everything going dark, she was very shaken up. 194 00:11:27,687 --> 00:11:30,418 So, she seemed like a woman who had just been raped? 195 00:11:30,456 --> 00:11:34,359 Jeez, yes. She was hurt, angry. 196 00:11:36,529 --> 00:11:39,499 - Did you get any read off her? - After 15 minutes? 197 00:11:39,532 --> 00:11:41,330 How about some top of the mind, 198 00:11:41,367 --> 00:11:43,666 inadmissible, subjective impressions? 199 00:11:43,703 --> 00:11:46,502 Just as long as you don't go out on a limb. 200 00:11:46,539 --> 00:11:49,941 Is it just me, or all women with triple digit IQs? 201 00:11:49,976 --> 00:11:52,605 You're the only one I know, Doc. 202 00:11:52,645 --> 00:11:54,841 Cerreta: Andrea Fermi? 203 00:11:54,881 --> 00:11:57,350 Do I think she consented to have sex? No. 204 00:11:57,383 --> 00:11:59,682 Do I think she's emotionally disturbed? 205 00:11:59,719 --> 00:12:01,551 - Yes. - How disturbed? 206 00:12:01,588 --> 00:12:04,786 Disturbed enough she needs to be in therapy. 207 00:12:04,824 --> 00:12:07,623 It's not uncommon and she fits the profile. 208 00:12:07,660 --> 00:12:11,893 Parents divorced, desperation for a relationship with a male, 209 00:12:11,931 --> 00:12:14,696 inability to tolerate rejection, making threats. 210 00:12:14,734 --> 00:12:17,636 Look, girls are bombarded with images 211 00:12:17,670 --> 00:12:19,639 of who they should be to get boys. 212 00:12:19,672 --> 00:12:21,800 Ads, movies, Madonna... 213 00:12:21,841 --> 00:12:24,470 They end up playing a stereotypical role, 214 00:12:24,510 --> 00:12:26,809 a highly sexualized adult woman. 215 00:12:26,846 --> 00:12:29,941 But in reality, they're just children seeking approval. 216 00:12:29,983 --> 00:12:31,747 Was she raped or not? 217 00:12:31,784 --> 00:12:35,812 - I'd say absolutely, but... - But what? 218 00:12:35,855 --> 00:12:38,654 Based on her previous sexual behavior, 219 00:12:38,691 --> 00:12:42,184 the boys may have convinced themselves she didn't care. 220 00:12:46,599 --> 00:12:50,001 DNA test on the samples gives us intercourse with two men. 221 00:12:50,036 --> 00:12:51,800 You still need proof of that rape. 222 00:12:51,838 --> 00:12:54,774 Not in court you don't. The law says no corroboration necessary. 223 00:12:54,807 --> 00:12:57,504 But without it you don't get a conviction from a jury. 224 00:12:57,543 --> 00:13:01,002 Unfortunately, he's right. She was drunk and her rep ain't exactly spotless. 225 00:13:01,047 --> 00:13:03,278 Okay, so all the men and half the women 226 00:13:03,316 --> 00:13:05,285 are going to say she was asking for it. 227 00:13:05,318 --> 00:13:07,787 Date rape, maybe. But this? 228 00:13:07,820 --> 00:13:10,449 Nobody asks to be gang-raped. 229 00:13:10,490 --> 00:13:12,288 Just go talk to her. 230 00:13:12,325 --> 00:13:14,123 Tell her what the problems are, 231 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:16,152 maybe she'll give you something else. 232 00:13:18,998 --> 00:13:21,968 All right, so I was drunk and I'm not a virgin. 233 00:13:22,001 --> 00:13:23,799 So I'm not the perfect victim. 234 00:13:23,836 --> 00:13:26,931 If those boys say they never saw her, they're lying. 235 00:13:26,973 --> 00:13:29,704 Mrs. Fermi, we are trying to help your daughter. 236 00:13:29,742 --> 00:13:31,301 You heard from Gary lately? 237 00:13:33,012 --> 00:13:34,981 No. 238 00:13:35,014 --> 00:13:37,677 But then I guess, what do you say to a raped fiancée? 239 00:13:37,717 --> 00:13:40,050 He told us you weren't engaged. 240 00:13:44,190 --> 00:13:46,056 I guess that's what you say. 241 00:13:46,092 --> 00:13:48,994 He said you two had broken up and there was no date for the party. 242 00:13:49,028 --> 00:13:52,396 Well, that's not true! And he did invite me to the party! 243 00:13:52,432 --> 00:13:54,025 Well, I guess he's lying, too? 244 00:13:56,369 --> 00:13:59,237 I don't believe he said we weren't engaged. 245 00:13:59,272 --> 00:14:01,571 And that you threatened him. He showed us a letter. 246 00:14:01,607 --> 00:14:03,940 One of my letters?! 247 00:14:03,976 --> 00:14:05,638 Show them his, Andrea. 248 00:14:16,989 --> 00:14:18,890 "You've changed my life. 249 00:14:18,925 --> 00:14:20,689 I want that change to be permanent. 250 00:14:20,727 --> 00:14:22,662 Don't be shocked, but... 251 00:14:23,830 --> 00:14:25,662 I want to marry you." 252 00:14:30,503 --> 00:14:32,665 Now which one of us is lying? 253 00:14:37,009 --> 00:14:38,978 Okay, in the heat of the moment 254 00:14:39,011 --> 00:14:41,139 I wrote something foolish. 255 00:14:41,180 --> 00:14:43,149 Not to mention lying to us! 256 00:14:43,182 --> 00:14:44,810 You guys... 257 00:14:44,851 --> 00:14:46,479 You don't know Andrea. 258 00:14:46,519 --> 00:14:48,215 She got crazy, she scared me. 259 00:14:48,254 --> 00:14:50,814 But you're still saying you didn't see her at the party 260 00:14:50,857 --> 00:14:53,656 and you know nothing about the rape? 261 00:14:53,693 --> 00:14:55,491 Like I told you. 262 00:14:55,528 --> 00:14:57,463 Cerreta: Why don't you talk to her? 263 00:14:57,497 --> 00:14:59,659 This is a girl you wanted to marry, she gets raped, 264 00:14:59,699 --> 00:15:01,759 you don't even call to see how she is? 265 00:15:01,801 --> 00:15:04,771 They said it would be better if I didn't. 266 00:15:04,804 --> 00:15:06,295 They? 267 00:15:08,808 --> 00:15:11,642 Ted, Joel, all the officers. 268 00:15:16,983 --> 00:15:19,452 As Vice President, I warned Gary. 269 00:15:19,485 --> 00:15:23,286 These allegations could damage the fraternity. 270 00:15:23,322 --> 00:15:25,757 You warned him not to speak to Andrea? 271 00:15:27,660 --> 00:15:29,629 We were told it's better if there's no contact 272 00:15:29,662 --> 00:15:31,631 between any house members and Andrea. 273 00:15:31,664 --> 00:15:34,600 Yeah, Gary's a pledge. That applies to him, too. 274 00:15:34,634 --> 00:15:36,432 Hey, we're glad to cooperate, 275 00:15:36,469 --> 00:15:38,438 but we were also told 276 00:15:38,471 --> 00:15:40,497 since Joel and I are mentioned by name 277 00:15:40,540 --> 00:15:43,305 that we shouldn't talk to you without counsel present. 278 00:15:43,342 --> 00:15:45,140 That's your legal right. 279 00:15:45,178 --> 00:15:47,477 We're sorry about Andrea. 280 00:15:47,513 --> 00:15:50,972 We wish she wouldn't have fantasies on our premises. 281 00:15:52,351 --> 00:15:55,515 On your premises? I thought she wasn't here that night? 282 00:15:56,689 --> 00:15:58,624 Just to double-check, 283 00:15:58,658 --> 00:16:01,253 none of you went upstairs, for even a few minutes, 284 00:16:01,294 --> 00:16:04,025 - the entire night, right? - Together: No. 285 00:16:07,300 --> 00:16:09,826 Did someone mention the word cooperation? 286 00:16:09,869 --> 00:16:11,770 Try different questions. 287 00:16:12,972 --> 00:16:14,941 Maybe we'll try different people. 288 00:16:14,974 --> 00:16:16,772 You have the list of your party guests 289 00:16:16,809 --> 00:16:18,607 and your employees for that party? 290 00:16:18,644 --> 00:16:20,476 We'd be glad to get you one. 291 00:16:20,513 --> 00:16:23,779 - But there's always crashers. - From on and off campus. 292 00:16:23,816 --> 00:16:25,785 Hey, if there really was a rape, 293 00:16:25,818 --> 00:16:28,219 it could have been anyone. 294 00:16:28,254 --> 00:16:30,120 Okay, the boyfriend did lie. 295 00:16:30,156 --> 00:16:32,057 That kid knows something. 296 00:16:32,091 --> 00:16:34,060 I think what he knows is how to take orders 297 00:16:34,093 --> 00:16:36,289 from his upperclassmen and keep his mouth shut. 298 00:16:36,329 --> 00:16:39,128 A six-hour party. Nobody sees anybody go upstairs? 299 00:16:39,165 --> 00:16:41,430 - Nobody goes upstairs himself? - Yeah, right. 300 00:16:41,467 --> 00:16:43,629 Like they don't serve liquor to minors. 301 00:16:43,669 --> 00:16:45,137 What, a misdemeanor charge? 302 00:16:45,171 --> 00:16:47,640 Think that's gonna crack the wall of silence? 303 00:16:47,673 --> 00:16:50,142 All right. We got 70, 80 names here. 304 00:16:50,176 --> 00:16:51,974 Probably take us right up to retirement. 305 00:16:52,011 --> 00:16:53,809 I would start with anybody who isn't, 306 00:16:53,846 --> 00:16:56,816 wasn't, and never will be a member of that fraternity. 307 00:16:57,817 --> 00:16:59,547 Maybe she wasn't there. 308 00:16:59,585 --> 00:17:03,078 We get one more no, you got to think everybody was as drunk as she was. 309 00:17:03,122 --> 00:17:04,784 Who's next? 310 00:17:07,627 --> 00:17:09,425 Sorry, I might have served her, 311 00:17:09,462 --> 00:17:11,431 but there were at least a hundred kids there. 312 00:17:11,464 --> 00:17:14,764 - He must have some eyesight. - I can't help you. 313 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:16,769 Hey, listen. Come here. 314 00:17:16,802 --> 00:17:19,738 - You think you served any underage kids there? - Oh, come on. 315 00:17:19,772 --> 00:17:22,071 Maybe we could find a few. 316 00:17:22,108 --> 00:17:24,600 All right. I'll level with you. 317 00:17:24,644 --> 00:17:26,272 I did two years hard time 318 00:17:26,312 --> 00:17:27,940 and I'm almost off parole. 319 00:17:27,980 --> 00:17:30,108 Working parties and bartending is a no-no. 320 00:17:30,149 --> 00:17:32,584 Cool it, we're not the parole division. 321 00:17:33,986 --> 00:17:35,454 All right. 322 00:17:35,488 --> 00:17:37,457 Pigtails had on the wrong costume. 323 00:17:37,490 --> 00:17:39,118 She looked like a little girl 324 00:17:39,158 --> 00:17:41,684 - but she can drink like a sand dune. - How much? 325 00:17:41,727 --> 00:17:43,628 Eight or 10 shots, easy. 326 00:17:43,663 --> 00:17:45,962 Yeah, enough to put me into a long dream. 327 00:17:45,998 --> 00:17:48,467 Anybody follow her? You know, go upstairs? 328 00:17:48,501 --> 00:17:50,129 I was tracking her. 329 00:17:50,169 --> 00:17:52,297 I thought she might be my score for the night. 330 00:17:52,338 --> 00:17:54,307 But she staggered out with some guy, 331 00:17:54,340 --> 00:17:55,808 that was the last I saw of her. 332 00:17:55,841 --> 00:17:58,470 Could you recognize this guy if you saw him again? 333 00:17:58,511 --> 00:18:00,139 No, too dark. 334 00:18:00,179 --> 00:18:02,080 His mask was half-off his face, 335 00:18:02,114 --> 00:18:04,583 - some costume... - What kind of costume? An animal? 336 00:18:04,617 --> 00:18:08,019 - Yes, that's right. - What kind of animal? 337 00:18:09,221 --> 00:18:11,315 Sorry. It had big ears... 338 00:18:12,792 --> 00:18:14,818 if that's any help? 339 00:18:16,295 --> 00:18:18,093 At least we know she was there. 340 00:18:18,130 --> 00:18:20,099 Oh, yeah. With an animal that has big ears. 341 00:18:20,132 --> 00:18:22,931 - Where does that get us? - Two steps ahead of where we were yesterday. 342 00:18:22,969 --> 00:18:24,597 With still no corroboration. 343 00:18:24,637 --> 00:18:26,629 Oh, gee, Mike, why don't we just quit? 344 00:18:28,307 --> 00:18:31,243 Next up, Gail, Stuart Carradine. Grad students. 345 00:18:31,277 --> 00:18:33,405 - Good. - Very good. 346 00:18:33,446 --> 00:18:35,278 We were only there for a half an hour. 347 00:18:35,314 --> 00:18:38,148 My wife and I aren't really party people, so... 348 00:18:38,184 --> 00:18:40,676 So nothing strange happened? 349 00:18:43,155 --> 00:18:45,124 It was Halloween. 350 00:18:45,157 --> 00:18:47,649 But rape? No. 351 00:18:50,563 --> 00:18:52,122 Excuse me. 352 00:18:52,164 --> 00:18:54,258 - May I have some water? - Sure. 353 00:18:59,338 --> 00:19:01,068 Must be something in the air. 354 00:19:01,107 --> 00:19:02,973 I feel like I'm swallowing ashes. 355 00:19:07,113 --> 00:19:09,082 It doesn't take Sigmund Freud 356 00:19:09,115 --> 00:19:10,811 to see you're nervous. 357 00:19:12,785 --> 00:19:14,413 Can you believe it? 358 00:19:14,453 --> 00:19:17,252 I was a ballerina. I felt ridiculous. 359 00:19:17,289 --> 00:19:19,087 I didn't even want to go. 360 00:19:19,125 --> 00:19:21,594 All those TPs act like they owned the world. 361 00:19:21,627 --> 00:19:23,095 Stuart used to be president. 362 00:19:23,129 --> 00:19:25,598 I thought he had outgrown all that crap. 363 00:19:25,631 --> 00:19:27,827 We went upstairs, 364 00:19:27,867 --> 00:19:28,950 I went to the bathroom... 365 00:19:28,974 --> 00:19:31,269 What the hell are you doing? What are you telling him? 366 00:19:31,303 --> 00:19:33,181 - Just what I saw. - It's none of their business. 367 00:19:33,205 --> 00:19:35,936 This is rape, not a college prank. 368 00:19:38,477 --> 00:19:40,571 Go ahead. This is our business. 369 00:19:42,982 --> 00:19:44,780 I came out of the bathroom 370 00:19:44,817 --> 00:19:46,615 and I saw two guys on the stairs. 371 00:19:46,652 --> 00:19:48,450 One of them said, "Come on. 372 00:19:48,487 --> 00:19:51,116 - She's there. Let's go." - That could've meant anything. 373 00:19:51,157 --> 00:19:53,126 You can't be sure who, 'cause it was dark. 374 00:19:53,159 --> 00:19:54,627 I'm sure, Stuart. 375 00:19:54,660 --> 00:19:57,459 One of them was Joel Holder. 376 00:19:57,496 --> 00:19:59,294 Yes, well, it's a mistake... 377 00:19:59,331 --> 00:20:01,630 or it's a lie. 378 00:20:01,667 --> 00:20:03,932 Look, it couldn't have been me, all right? 379 00:20:03,969 --> 00:20:05,801 I'm sure it is a mistake, Joel. 380 00:20:05,838 --> 00:20:07,807 Why don't you clear it up? 381 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:11,709 Get a blood test, it'll show that you didn't have sex with the girl. 382 00:20:13,012 --> 00:20:15,481 Okay. Okay. All right. 383 00:20:15,514 --> 00:20:17,642 No problem. You got a deal. 384 00:20:17,683 --> 00:20:19,447 When? 385 00:20:22,855 --> 00:20:25,347 They say somebody saw me upstairs. 386 00:20:27,193 --> 00:20:29,662 - No way. - We were with him all night. 387 00:20:29,695 --> 00:20:31,323 Logan: Oh, yeah? 388 00:20:31,363 --> 00:20:33,662 Well, Joel here's going to take a blood test 389 00:20:33,699 --> 00:20:35,327 and we'll get this over with. 390 00:20:35,367 --> 00:20:36,995 Nobody's taking any blood tests. 391 00:20:38,871 --> 00:20:40,499 We're calling our lawyers. 392 00:20:43,375 --> 00:20:45,276 Fine. 393 00:20:45,311 --> 00:20:47,337 They still have witnesses who say they never left 394 00:20:47,379 --> 00:20:49,007 the first floor during the party. 395 00:20:49,048 --> 00:20:50,676 Under oath? Maybe not. 396 00:20:50,716 --> 00:20:52,344 Holder said he would give blood? 397 00:20:52,384 --> 00:20:55,684 My guess is he did it, but he knows he didn't leave a souvenir. 398 00:20:55,721 --> 00:20:59,021 - How good is Gail Carradine? - Her husband didn't break her. 399 00:20:59,058 --> 00:21:01,789 We got Holder on the third floor at the right time. 400 00:21:01,827 --> 00:21:05,286 - But no Campion. - She believes these guys did it. 401 00:21:05,331 --> 00:21:06,993 My call? Pick them up. 402 00:21:07,032 --> 00:21:09,968 All right. Do it. 403 00:21:28,687 --> 00:21:30,519 Holder and Campion. 404 00:21:32,024 --> 00:21:33,993 Come on, back up. 405 00:21:34,026 --> 00:21:36,655 Come on, come on. Let's go. 406 00:21:38,697 --> 00:21:40,996 - We want to call our lawyers. - In a minute. 407 00:21:41,033 --> 00:21:43,366 - You can't do this to us. - Sure we can. 408 00:21:55,714 --> 00:21:57,876 Okay, gentlemen, toes on the line. 409 00:21:59,885 --> 00:22:02,116 I want pictures of every inch of their bodies. 410 00:22:02,154 --> 00:22:04,521 I don't want any police brutality claims here. 411 00:22:20,339 --> 00:22:22,638 Judge, a blood test at this time seems premature. 412 00:22:22,675 --> 00:22:24,803 We'll present to the grand jury next week. 413 00:22:24,844 --> 00:22:26,676 Ms. Gifford? 414 00:22:26,712 --> 00:22:30,114 My client Joel Holder is perfectly willing to give a blood sample. 415 00:22:31,517 --> 00:22:34,646 The prosecutor's information looks good to me, Mr. Gould. 416 00:22:34,687 --> 00:22:36,451 I'm signing this order for both Holder 417 00:22:36,488 --> 00:22:38,548 and for your client Mr. Campion. 418 00:22:38,591 --> 00:22:41,652 The detectives may approve the transfer to Rikers, 419 00:22:41,694 --> 00:22:44,357 where the defendants will give blood samples. 420 00:22:45,865 --> 00:22:47,493 Nice work, gentlemen. 421 00:22:47,533 --> 00:22:50,332 Four-probe DNA match on Campion. 422 00:22:50,369 --> 00:22:53,828 It's not so good on Holder... Two-probe, bad sample. 423 00:22:53,873 --> 00:22:56,172 I forget what that says about the odds. 424 00:22:56,208 --> 00:22:58,177 We got a witness on Holder. 425 00:22:58,210 --> 00:23:00,338 I'm going to need more than that. 426 00:23:00,379 --> 00:23:03,110 They filed a civil suit against the girl. 427 00:23:03,148 --> 00:23:05,617 - Defamation, slander. - Cerreta: So what? 428 00:23:05,651 --> 00:23:07,279 Public relations. 429 00:23:07,319 --> 00:23:10,619 No, Ezra Gould is not that kind of lawyer. 430 00:23:10,656 --> 00:23:14,457 - If he goes through with it... - He has something exculpatory. 431 00:23:14,493 --> 00:23:17,156 They must know something about that night we don't? 432 00:23:21,767 --> 00:23:23,793 You don't know what happened, I do. 433 00:23:23,836 --> 00:23:24,941 What is the agenda here? 434 00:23:24,965 --> 00:23:27,398 Don't go to the grand jury. We'll drop the civil suit. 435 00:23:27,439 --> 00:23:29,484 You're asking us to play blind. Tell us what you have. 436 00:23:29,508 --> 00:23:32,087 What if it doesn't force you to drop? We're not handing you our case. 437 00:23:32,111 --> 00:23:33,739 Ezra, are we on the same planet? 438 00:23:33,779 --> 00:23:35,771 We have a DNA match on your clients. 439 00:23:35,814 --> 00:23:37,544 Proves sex. Not rape. 440 00:23:37,583 --> 00:23:39,313 You have zero on Mr. Holder. 441 00:23:39,351 --> 00:23:41,786 It's a lousy case and you're ruining these boys' lives. 442 00:23:41,820 --> 00:23:44,312 Well, these boys ruined Andrea Fermi's life, 443 00:23:44,356 --> 00:23:46,416 and we're trying to make them pay for it. 444 00:23:46,458 --> 00:23:48,654 The college is concerned about a trial. 445 00:23:48,694 --> 00:23:50,754 Are they concerned about their drunken 446 00:23:50,796 --> 00:23:52,424 fraternity boys raping a girl? 447 00:23:52,464 --> 00:23:54,126 Do you think the civil suit is a ploy? 448 00:23:54,166 --> 00:23:56,192 It's a chess game. 449 00:23:56,235 --> 00:23:59,171 There's a pawn on the board that we don't know. 450 00:23:59,204 --> 00:24:01,764 Where are you going with the alcohol problem? 451 00:24:01,807 --> 00:24:03,776 She was legally drunk. No capacity to consent. 452 00:24:03,809 --> 00:24:05,641 Legally drunk to drive. 453 00:24:07,313 --> 00:24:09,782 But appearances can be deceiving. 454 00:24:09,815 --> 00:24:12,944 I have two shots of gin, they can roll me into bed. 455 00:24:12,985 --> 00:24:14,954 She has four, 456 00:24:14,987 --> 00:24:17,252 she may look perfectly coherent. 457 00:24:17,289 --> 00:24:19,121 Adam, she passed out on the street. 458 00:24:19,158 --> 00:24:21,753 Iffy. Did she pass out in that room? 459 00:24:21,794 --> 00:24:23,626 Would you like this without sugar? 460 00:24:23,662 --> 00:24:25,995 You know the boys are getting better press play. 461 00:24:26,031 --> 00:24:28,967 - What does that tell you? - They'll get better play from a jury. 462 00:24:29,001 --> 00:24:31,630 - Thank you, Paul. - What do you want to do? 463 00:24:31,670 --> 00:24:34,333 Forget about the law, pretend you're a jury. 464 00:24:35,507 --> 00:24:37,476 Find yourself somebody who'll testify 465 00:24:37,509 --> 00:24:40,536 she wasn't in any condition to say yes or no. 466 00:24:42,681 --> 00:24:45,310 It doesn't matter what happens now. 467 00:24:45,351 --> 00:24:47,650 Nobody's ever going to believe me. 468 00:24:47,686 --> 00:24:49,484 The civil suit is a problem, 469 00:24:49,521 --> 00:24:51,319 because the only way it makes sense 470 00:24:51,357 --> 00:24:53,155 is if they have a witness. 471 00:24:53,192 --> 00:24:55,661 Someone to convince a jury you consented. 472 00:24:55,694 --> 00:24:57,822 I didn't! 473 00:24:57,863 --> 00:25:00,492 Plus, whatever they have in their back pocket? 474 00:25:00,532 --> 00:25:02,433 The front pocket looks pretty good. 475 00:25:02,468 --> 00:25:05,302 - You did know the boys. - Not that well! 476 00:25:09,141 --> 00:25:11,701 I'm tired of feeling like a slut. 477 00:25:13,812 --> 00:25:15,713 Have you talked to Gary Burnham? 478 00:25:15,748 --> 00:25:17,580 No. 479 00:25:17,616 --> 00:25:19,778 Why? 480 00:25:19,818 --> 00:25:22,447 The police think he's frightened about something. 481 00:25:22,488 --> 00:25:24,753 Did he participate in the rape? 482 00:25:24,790 --> 00:25:27,624 No, I don't even think he was there. 483 00:25:27,659 --> 00:25:29,252 I mean, I didn't see him. 484 00:25:30,496 --> 00:25:32,124 The bartender remembers you. 485 00:25:32,164 --> 00:25:34,292 He says you went upstairs with a man in a costume. 486 00:25:34,333 --> 00:25:36,461 Something about big ears. 487 00:25:36,502 --> 00:25:39,233 We went through this. I don't remember. 488 00:25:39,271 --> 00:25:41,297 Think. 489 00:25:42,674 --> 00:25:44,040 Maybe... 490 00:25:45,310 --> 00:25:46,972 I don't know, 491 00:25:47,012 --> 00:25:49,174 maybe it could've been a mouse... 492 00:25:51,517 --> 00:25:53,509 with big black ears. 493 00:25:58,023 --> 00:25:59,992 Then again... 494 00:26:00,025 --> 00:26:02,460 maybe I'm just imagining that too. 495 00:26:04,096 --> 00:26:06,088 We been through this 50 times. 496 00:26:06,131 --> 00:26:08,100 No rabbit costume, no mouse. 497 00:26:08,133 --> 00:26:10,102 You know the bartender said ears. 498 00:26:10,135 --> 00:26:13,264 - Andrea said black ears. - That's a major contribution. 499 00:26:13,305 --> 00:26:15,433 Little Bo Peep, Batman, Master of the Universe, 500 00:26:15,474 --> 00:26:16,942 Abraham Lincoln, Lee Iacocca... 501 00:26:16,975 --> 00:26:19,103 - What? - I don't know, they're college kids. 502 00:26:19,144 --> 00:26:22,603 Ronald Reagan, Nancy Reagan, Wonder Woman, Snoopy, Spiderman... 503 00:26:25,651 --> 00:26:27,620 Snoopy? 504 00:26:27,653 --> 00:26:29,315 Let me have that card. 505 00:26:32,491 --> 00:26:35,290 Hubble's law of the critical energy density. 506 00:26:35,327 --> 00:26:37,125 Beautiful, huh? 507 00:26:37,162 --> 00:26:38,994 Little school girl, white knee socks. 508 00:26:39,031 --> 00:26:41,967 - She said she was with you. - She said she felt sick. 509 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:45,459 Had too much to drink. So I took her upstairs to the bathroom. 510 00:26:45,504 --> 00:26:47,632 - Did you leave her there? - No. 511 00:26:47,673 --> 00:26:49,801 I came back down, had a drink, 512 00:26:49,842 --> 00:26:52,641 I got worried when she didn't show, so... 513 00:26:52,678 --> 00:26:56,137 - I have to testify about this? - You might have to, yes. 514 00:26:57,683 --> 00:26:59,481 I have a lot of work to do here, so, 515 00:26:59,518 --> 00:27:01,749 I really shouldn't have said anything. 516 00:27:01,787 --> 00:27:03,915 You should have told the police. 517 00:27:03,956 --> 00:27:07,791 - At the time, I didn't make the connection. - Absent-minded physicist? 518 00:27:07,826 --> 00:27:10,125 You don't look that out of it, Mr. Collins. 519 00:27:13,465 --> 00:27:15,263 I went to look for her, 520 00:27:15,300 --> 00:27:17,929 she came stumbling out of a room. 521 00:27:17,970 --> 00:27:19,768 Look, these jocks, 522 00:27:19,805 --> 00:27:21,831 if I testify, they're going to... 523 00:27:21,874 --> 00:27:24,309 We can always finish this conversation in court. 524 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:30,381 Okay, Joel runs out, 525 00:27:30,415 --> 00:27:32,145 throws his arms around her 526 00:27:32,184 --> 00:27:34,380 and sort of carries her back in. 527 00:27:34,419 --> 00:27:35,978 Joel Holder? 528 00:27:36,021 --> 00:27:38,616 Yeah, Joel Holder. 529 00:27:42,327 --> 00:27:44,125 Schiff: What would you settle for? 530 00:27:44,163 --> 00:27:46,132 If he'll roll on Campion? Rape three. 531 00:27:46,165 --> 00:27:47,793 Maybe toss in menacing. 532 00:27:47,833 --> 00:27:50,132 Robinette: With the questionable DNA, 533 00:27:50,169 --> 00:27:53,037 - rape one is going to be tough, anyway. - Even with witnesses. 534 00:27:53,071 --> 00:27:56,473 I hate to roll him, Adam, but the closer we get to trial... 535 00:27:56,508 --> 00:27:58,977 I'd be happy with anything before we get hit 536 00:27:59,011 --> 00:28:02,573 with whatever Holder and Campion's lawyers have under their hats. 537 00:28:02,614 --> 00:28:04,845 So far we're basically shooting blanks. 538 00:28:04,883 --> 00:28:06,749 Set up a meeting with her tomorrow, 539 00:28:06,785 --> 00:28:08,913 maybe she'll be ready to plead him out. 540 00:28:08,954 --> 00:28:10,923 I hope so. 541 00:28:10,956 --> 00:28:12,754 Newspapers make their stories up. 542 00:28:12,791 --> 00:28:15,659 - Just like your defendant. - Rape third degree, menacing, 543 00:28:15,694 --> 00:28:17,856 with a leniency recommendation. 544 00:28:17,896 --> 00:28:20,331 - That could still mean prison. - I'm not going to jail. 545 00:28:20,365 --> 00:28:23,426 You're convicted, a jury will send you away for longer than we do. 546 00:28:23,468 --> 00:28:26,768 So you want me to lie, betray my friend and go to jail for doing this? 547 00:28:26,805 --> 00:28:29,070 A witness saw you dragging her from the room. 548 00:28:29,107 --> 00:28:31,167 - I wasn't dragging her! - Joel! 549 00:28:31,210 --> 00:28:33,202 She was drunk. I was helping her walk. 550 00:28:33,245 --> 00:28:35,942 I assume Ms. Gifford informed you that rape 551 00:28:35,981 --> 00:28:38,780 in the first degree holds a minimum of eight years? 552 00:28:38,817 --> 00:28:41,582 Stop trying to scare him with numbers. 553 00:28:41,620 --> 00:28:44,249 He's succeeding. It wasn't rape! 554 00:28:44,289 --> 00:28:46,622 Joel, not another word. 555 00:28:46,658 --> 00:28:49,093 And if it takes a trial to prove that we're innocent, 556 00:28:49,127 --> 00:28:51,323 then maybe we have to go through with it. 557 00:28:55,834 --> 00:28:57,564 We'll talk sexual misconduct. 558 00:28:57,603 --> 00:28:59,970 A misdemeanor? For what happened to her? 559 00:29:00,005 --> 00:29:01,735 You have the wrong century. 560 00:29:01,773 --> 00:29:03,765 And you have the wrong offer. 561 00:29:05,611 --> 00:29:09,742 I feel for Ms. Fermi. But she's putting herself through this for nothing. 562 00:29:09,781 --> 00:29:11,750 And doing it to my client, too. 563 00:29:14,953 --> 00:29:16,922 Either he's tougher than he looks 564 00:29:16,955 --> 00:29:18,753 or he believes what he says. 565 00:29:18,790 --> 00:29:20,918 Let's see what Campion believes. 566 00:29:20,959 --> 00:29:22,928 You can't prove sex wasn't consensual. 567 00:29:22,961 --> 00:29:25,760 All you've got is the girl. And her memory is as bad as her morals. 568 00:29:25,797 --> 00:29:27,766 We have a DNA match on your client, 569 00:29:27,799 --> 00:29:30,268 a witness who puts Ms. Fermi in his room, 570 00:29:30,302 --> 00:29:33,739 and a slew of witnesses that say she was very drunk... too drunk to consent. 571 00:29:33,772 --> 00:29:36,936 I read the medical charts. .13 is not that high. 572 00:29:36,975 --> 00:29:38,773 She was a heavy drinker. 573 00:29:38,810 --> 00:29:41,439 Now, you said you had something to offer? 574 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:44,314 Rape three. With a recommendation. Plus testimony. 575 00:29:44,349 --> 00:29:46,614 What is he, a serial killer? 576 00:29:46,652 --> 00:29:49,281 We could discuss... just discuss sexual misconduct. 577 00:29:49,321 --> 00:29:51,620 For Mr. Holder, maybe. Not for Mr. Campion. 578 00:29:51,657 --> 00:29:54,456 I can't believe this. You're destroying my life. 579 00:29:54,493 --> 00:29:56,962 - Doesn't anybody understand? - We're just talking. 580 00:29:56,995 --> 00:29:58,964 My mother hardly gets out of bed anymore. 581 00:29:58,997 --> 00:30:01,660 My father, who's going broke to prove I'm innocent, 582 00:30:01,700 --> 00:30:03,965 looks at me like I can't even be his son. 583 00:30:04,002 --> 00:30:05,800 - That's enough. - It's not enough! 584 00:30:05,837 --> 00:30:07,806 You're playing with my life like it's a game. 585 00:30:07,839 --> 00:30:11,139 Rape three, rape one, sexual misconduct. It's a joke. 586 00:30:11,176 --> 00:30:13,475 - Andrea came to the party... - We discussed this. 587 00:30:13,512 --> 00:30:14,980 And I don't want to wait. 588 00:30:15,013 --> 00:30:16,982 She knows what she wanted and she got it. 589 00:30:17,015 --> 00:30:18,984 If you want proof, talk to her boyfriend. 590 00:30:19,017 --> 00:30:21,577 Talk to Gary Burnham. He set it all up. 591 00:30:23,855 --> 00:30:25,790 I haven't heard the word immunity. 592 00:30:25,824 --> 00:30:28,191 This week I forgot what it means. 593 00:30:28,226 --> 00:30:30,786 Then my client forgot what happened. 594 00:30:30,829 --> 00:30:33,492 If he tells the truth and it's accessory, 595 00:30:33,532 --> 00:30:35,228 he won't be charged. 596 00:30:39,538 --> 00:30:41,666 I invited her to the party. 597 00:30:41,707 --> 00:30:43,403 But she knew why. 598 00:30:46,712 --> 00:30:48,874 To have sex with some of the fraternity brothers. 599 00:30:48,914 --> 00:30:50,405 With Holder and Campion? 600 00:30:50,449 --> 00:30:52,350 They just happened to be first. 601 00:30:52,384 --> 00:30:54,012 It could've been anybody. 602 00:30:54,052 --> 00:30:56,715 - She just wanted to have a good time. - She told you this? 603 00:30:59,224 --> 00:31:01,455 I found out... 604 00:31:01,493 --> 00:31:03,291 about all the guys she'd had. 605 00:31:03,328 --> 00:31:04,956 She said it was no big deal. 606 00:31:04,996 --> 00:31:06,464 I got angry. 607 00:31:06,498 --> 00:31:07,966 I said... 608 00:31:07,999 --> 00:31:09,968 "You want to take on the whole house, 609 00:31:10,001 --> 00:31:11,970 I can arrange it." 610 00:31:12,003 --> 00:31:14,063 She laughed and said, "Go ahead." 611 00:31:14,106 --> 00:31:17,804 - You thought she was serious? - Not at first. 612 00:31:17,843 --> 00:31:19,971 When I called her about the party, 613 00:31:20,011 --> 00:31:22,310 I said they were waiting for her. 614 00:31:22,347 --> 00:31:24,976 She said, "They're going to love my costume 615 00:31:25,016 --> 00:31:27,144 if they like little girls." 616 00:31:30,021 --> 00:31:31,922 I thought she meant it. 617 00:31:31,957 --> 00:31:33,949 I thought she wanted it. 618 00:31:45,203 --> 00:31:47,001 None of it is true? 619 00:31:48,373 --> 00:31:50,171 Okay... 620 00:31:50,208 --> 00:31:53,007 he thought he was the first man in my life. 621 00:31:53,044 --> 00:31:56,674 And when we fought, we said stupid things. 622 00:31:56,715 --> 00:31:58,547 But we didn't mean them. 623 00:31:58,583 --> 00:32:02,884 Did you say the boys would like your costume if they liked little girls? 624 00:32:02,921 --> 00:32:06,153 - It was a joke. - Gary will testify. 625 00:32:09,661 --> 00:32:12,790 So now it's not just my word against Ted and Joel's? 626 00:32:12,831 --> 00:32:14,629 It's against Gary, too? 627 00:32:18,003 --> 00:32:20,131 You don't want to go through with this. 628 00:32:23,842 --> 00:32:25,504 Do you? 629 00:32:29,114 --> 00:32:31,515 If the boyfriend's convincing... 630 00:32:33,018 --> 00:32:35,180 and the jury sees a premeditated orgy... 631 00:32:35,220 --> 00:32:37,655 We're on a line, seduction or betrayal? 632 00:32:37,689 --> 00:32:39,624 Juries like the seduction side. 633 00:32:39,658 --> 00:32:42,992 I had a breakfast this morning at the City Club. 634 00:32:43,028 --> 00:32:45,827 Two bankers sitting behind me. 635 00:32:45,864 --> 00:32:49,266 I listened while they convinced themselves she's responsible. 636 00:32:49,301 --> 00:32:50,826 What are we supposed to do? 637 00:32:50,869 --> 00:32:54,169 Rewrite the entire sexual history of women in the courtroom? 638 00:32:54,206 --> 00:32:57,005 The boys think they did nothing wrong, and she's vague. 639 00:32:57,042 --> 00:33:00,342 - She threatened, she knew them. - And she didn't consent. 640 00:33:00,378 --> 00:33:02,779 The Supreme Court in Canada has allowed women's 641 00:33:02,814 --> 00:33:06,444 sexual histories to be introduced in rape cases. 642 00:33:06,485 --> 00:33:08,613 Message for you. 643 00:33:08,653 --> 00:33:10,622 Current issue... 644 00:33:10,655 --> 00:33:12,487 "Sex Crimes and the Law." 645 00:33:13,825 --> 00:33:15,657 Page 54. 646 00:33:17,996 --> 00:33:20,295 "Recent jury studies show women need 647 00:33:20,332 --> 00:33:22,460 to separate themselves from the victim. 648 00:33:22,501 --> 00:33:24,800 They need to believe it could not happen to them. 649 00:33:24,836 --> 00:33:27,271 Therefore, women do not believe the victim." 650 00:33:28,673 --> 00:33:32,804 - This cheers me right up. - We need a jury of feminists. 651 00:33:32,844 --> 00:33:35,746 You need a witness to get you past reasonable doubt. 652 00:33:35,780 --> 00:33:38,477 The law says we don't need corroboration. 653 00:33:38,517 --> 00:33:40,486 Wonderful. Last time I looked, 654 00:33:40,519 --> 00:33:43,318 Utopia's a small town upstate. 655 00:33:43,355 --> 00:33:46,291 Different zip code from the criminal court's building. 656 00:33:47,692 --> 00:33:51,151 Gail Carradine's strong, but she's not strong enough. 657 00:33:51,196 --> 00:33:52,994 Schiff's right. 658 00:33:53,031 --> 00:33:56,001 With Campion and Holder in ties and blue blazers, 659 00:33:56,034 --> 00:33:58,003 the jury see their sons. 660 00:33:58,036 --> 00:34:00,665 They won't see their daughters in Andrea. 661 00:34:00,705 --> 00:34:02,435 How about Gail's husband? 662 00:34:02,474 --> 00:34:04,272 What about him? 663 00:34:04,309 --> 00:34:07,279 She said he had been the president of the fraternity. 664 00:34:07,312 --> 00:34:08,610 So? 665 00:34:08,647 --> 00:34:11,276 Fraternity presidents tend to be straight arrows. 666 00:34:11,316 --> 00:34:12,784 Why not appeal to his honor? 667 00:34:12,817 --> 00:34:16,720 Why don't you try prosecuting bad guys, like criminals? 668 00:34:16,755 --> 00:34:18,553 Ted and Joel are good guys? 669 00:34:21,059 --> 00:34:24,723 You were on the same floor at the same time this rape took place. 670 00:34:24,763 --> 00:34:26,595 No, I never saw a rape. 671 00:34:30,168 --> 00:34:32,933 You really want Theta Phi to be a fraternity of rapists? 672 00:34:40,011 --> 00:34:41,479 I saw Gary in the hall. 673 00:34:41,513 --> 00:34:43,311 He was sitting down. He was drunk. 674 00:34:43,348 --> 00:34:45,146 He looked like he was going to cry. 675 00:34:45,183 --> 00:34:46,651 I asked him what was wrong, 676 00:34:46,685 --> 00:34:49,314 and he said, "I should've warned her. 677 00:34:49,354 --> 00:34:51,016 She didn't know." 678 00:34:55,126 --> 00:34:57,152 We had a deal. You can't charge him. 679 00:34:57,195 --> 00:34:58,823 Paul. 680 00:34:58,863 --> 00:35:03,267 "If he tells the truth and it's only accessory, he won't be charged." 681 00:35:03,301 --> 00:35:06,328 - You lied, Gary. - It was a mistake. 682 00:35:06,371 --> 00:35:08,101 We have a witness who talked to you. 683 00:35:08,139 --> 00:35:09,732 You knew Andrea didn't consent. 684 00:35:09,774 --> 00:35:12,334 You can't get in testimony against my client. Hearsay. 685 00:35:12,377 --> 00:35:14,107 Statement against penal interest 686 00:35:14,145 --> 00:35:15,943 in furtherance of a conspiracy. 687 00:35:15,981 --> 00:35:17,609 - I think we'll get it in. - Try it. 688 00:35:17,649 --> 00:35:21,643 We'll have an indictment on Mr. Burnham in 36 hours. 689 00:35:24,489 --> 00:35:27,482 - I just want this to end. - It can if you cooperate. 690 00:35:27,525 --> 00:35:30,552 A few minutes with my client, alone? 691 00:35:46,011 --> 00:35:47,809 He'll say what you want him to. 692 00:35:47,846 --> 00:35:50,213 I can't promise you'll get a conviction on it. 693 00:35:51,349 --> 00:35:53,318 - Sexual abuse first degree. - Come on. 694 00:35:53,351 --> 00:35:55,650 If anybody deserves a misdemeanor, he does. 695 00:35:55,687 --> 00:35:58,486 - He didn't have sex with her. - Just pimped for those who did. 696 00:35:58,523 --> 00:36:00,754 Sexual abuse two. You need him. 697 00:36:02,293 --> 00:36:04,159 He's your best hope. 698 00:36:14,305 --> 00:36:16,274 Ted and Joel told me 699 00:36:16,307 --> 00:36:18,776 she wasn't worth worrying about. 700 00:36:18,810 --> 00:36:21,439 They'd prove the kind of girl she was. 701 00:36:21,479 --> 00:36:24,039 When you entered the room, what did you see? 702 00:36:26,484 --> 00:36:29,352 Ted was having intercourse with Andrea. 703 00:36:29,387 --> 00:36:31,618 And did Andrea protest? 704 00:36:31,656 --> 00:36:34,649 At first she looked unconscious, 705 00:36:35,827 --> 00:36:38,058 then she started to moan. 706 00:36:38,096 --> 00:36:40,656 She tried to sit up, but Ted pushed her back down. 707 00:36:40,699 --> 00:36:42,827 His shirt fell over on her face. 708 00:36:42,867 --> 00:36:45,837 Was that to prevent her from seeing who was assaulting her? 709 00:36:45,870 --> 00:36:47,930 Objection. Calls for a conclusion. 710 00:36:47,972 --> 00:36:49,065 Sustained. 711 00:36:50,508 --> 00:36:52,204 How long were you in the room? 712 00:36:53,678 --> 00:36:56,842 When Ted finished, Joel undressed. 713 00:36:56,881 --> 00:36:58,941 He got on top of her. 714 00:36:58,983 --> 00:37:01,111 It sounded like she was crying. 715 00:37:01,152 --> 00:37:05,556 Joel finished, Ted motioned to me it was my turn. 716 00:37:05,590 --> 00:37:07,286 That's when I left. 717 00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:12,260 Mr. Burnham, do you have any doubt at all in your mind 718 00:37:12,297 --> 00:37:15,756 that Andrea was not consenting 719 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,292 to have sex with the defendants? 720 00:37:18,336 --> 00:37:19,599 Objection. 721 00:37:19,637 --> 00:37:21,382 He has no knowledge of anyone's state of mind. 722 00:37:21,406 --> 00:37:23,602 Statement of intent, hearsay exception. 723 00:37:23,641 --> 00:37:26,975 Still conclusionary, Mr. Stone. Objection sustained. 724 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:30,449 No further questions. 725 00:37:33,818 --> 00:37:37,277 Mr. Burnham, did you and the other boys stand around and say, 726 00:37:37,322 --> 00:37:39,655 "Let's get Andrea to the party and rape her?" 727 00:37:39,691 --> 00:37:41,592 No. We talked about having sex with her. 728 00:37:41,626 --> 00:37:44,494 Then you thought she'd be willing, isn't that right? 729 00:37:44,529 --> 00:37:46,122 We thought, I mean, I thought... 730 00:37:46,164 --> 00:37:48,133 If you planned to have sex with her, 731 00:37:48,166 --> 00:37:50,135 either you assumed she'd be willing 732 00:37:50,168 --> 00:37:52,637 or she'd have to be raped. Now which is it? 733 00:37:56,508 --> 00:37:58,272 We thought she wouldn't mind. 734 00:37:58,309 --> 00:38:00,972 Wouldn't mind having intercourse with your friends? 735 00:38:01,012 --> 00:38:02,810 Why would you think that? 736 00:38:04,783 --> 00:38:06,775 I guess because of her reputation. 737 00:38:06,818 --> 00:38:09,083 Objection! Ms. Fermi is not on trial here. 738 00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:11,248 Judge: Sustained. 739 00:38:11,289 --> 00:38:13,258 Let me ask the witness directly. 740 00:38:13,291 --> 00:38:15,089 Did you believe she wouldn't mind 741 00:38:15,126 --> 00:38:17,095 because she told you she wouldn't? 742 00:38:17,128 --> 00:38:19,097 I misunderstood her. I said that... 743 00:38:19,130 --> 00:38:22,760 There was no misunderstanding in your pre-trial statement. 744 00:38:22,801 --> 00:38:24,292 Are these your words? 745 00:38:24,335 --> 00:38:27,635 "I said, 'If you want to take on the whole house, I can arrange it.' 746 00:38:27,672 --> 00:38:29,368 She laughed and said, 'Go ahead. "" 747 00:38:29,407 --> 00:38:31,808 I said later I knew she didn't mean that. 748 00:38:31,843 --> 00:38:34,438 This was after entering into a plea bargain agreement 749 00:38:34,479 --> 00:38:37,074 with the District Attorney's office? 750 00:38:39,017 --> 00:38:41,612 I was sorry for what happened. 751 00:38:41,653 --> 00:38:44,145 For having lied, for having hurt Andrea. 752 00:38:45,323 --> 00:38:47,189 I loved her. 753 00:38:47,225 --> 00:38:49,956 Just one more question. 754 00:38:49,994 --> 00:38:52,122 If you thought she was being raped, 755 00:38:52,163 --> 00:38:54,132 why didn't you try to stop it? 756 00:38:58,837 --> 00:39:00,806 I don't know. 757 00:39:00,839 --> 00:39:03,104 Ted and Joel were my friends. 758 00:39:08,780 --> 00:39:10,578 I don't know. 759 00:39:12,951 --> 00:39:14,943 No more questions, Your Honor. 760 00:39:16,454 --> 00:39:19,253 - Redirect, Your Honor. - Briefly, Mr. Stone. 761 00:39:19,290 --> 00:39:22,818 Mr. Burnham, the night of the party, 762 00:39:22,861 --> 00:39:25,763 did Andrea do or say anything to you 763 00:39:25,797 --> 00:39:29,962 to indicate she wanted to have sex with the defendants? 764 00:39:30,001 --> 00:39:32,129 No. Never. 765 00:39:34,639 --> 00:39:36,471 Thank you. 766 00:39:38,643 --> 00:39:41,579 I had been drinking for maybe an hour. 767 00:39:41,613 --> 00:39:44,640 Do you recall entering the defendants' room? 768 00:39:45,817 --> 00:39:47,615 It's all hazy. 769 00:39:47,652 --> 00:39:51,111 I remember sitting next to Ted on the couch 770 00:39:51,155 --> 00:39:54,648 and he held a bottle of scotch up to my mouth. 771 00:39:55,994 --> 00:39:59,123 Do you remember being forced to have intercourse? 772 00:39:59,163 --> 00:40:00,961 Just in flashes. 773 00:40:00,999 --> 00:40:02,661 I'd blacked out. 774 00:40:04,002 --> 00:40:06,471 I remember... 775 00:40:06,504 --> 00:40:08,598 trying to leave the room once 776 00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:11,269 and somebody pulled me back in. 777 00:40:13,678 --> 00:40:15,647 And the room was dark... 778 00:40:17,515 --> 00:40:20,485 and I was on the floor... 779 00:40:20,518 --> 00:40:22,544 and it was happening. 780 00:40:22,587 --> 00:40:24,920 What was happening, Ms. Fermi? 781 00:40:29,527 --> 00:40:31,792 Somebody on top of me... 782 00:40:35,700 --> 00:40:37,362 inside me. 783 00:40:39,704 --> 00:40:42,173 And then somebody else. 784 00:40:44,709 --> 00:40:46,837 And I tried to push them off. 785 00:40:46,878 --> 00:40:48,744 I said, "Please, no." 786 00:40:48,780 --> 00:40:51,511 But they wouldn't stop. 787 00:40:54,218 --> 00:40:56,084 And something fell over my face 788 00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:58,055 and I couldn't breathe... 789 00:40:59,724 --> 00:41:01,454 and I passed out. 790 00:41:03,494 --> 00:41:05,486 Thank you. No further questions. 791 00:41:07,332 --> 00:41:09,130 Ms. Fermi, we've heard testimony 792 00:41:09,167 --> 00:41:11,966 that you consumed seven to 10 ounces of alcohol. 793 00:41:12,003 --> 00:41:14,632 - Have you ever had that much before in an evening? - Yes. 794 00:41:14,672 --> 00:41:16,971 Can you normally walk and talk clearly 795 00:41:17,008 --> 00:41:19,170 when you've consumed that much liquor? 796 00:41:19,210 --> 00:41:21,042 I passed out that night. 797 00:41:21,079 --> 00:41:23,310 So between the time 798 00:41:23,348 --> 00:41:25,817 you had a normal moment with the defendants 799 00:41:25,850 --> 00:41:28,319 and the time you regained consciousness, 800 00:41:28,353 --> 00:41:30,379 you can't really say what happened, can you? 801 00:41:30,421 --> 00:41:32,788 I've already said what I can remember. 802 00:41:32,824 --> 00:41:35,384 Isn't it possible you indicated a desire 803 00:41:35,426 --> 00:41:39,488 - to have sex with the defendants? - I hardly knew them. 804 00:41:39,530 --> 00:41:42,500 And what I knew of them, I did not like. 805 00:41:42,533 --> 00:41:45,002 Can you swear, that in the interim between 806 00:41:45,036 --> 00:41:48,006 the perfectly acceptable behavior of the defendants 807 00:41:48,039 --> 00:41:50,668 and the time you claim to have been assaulted, 808 00:41:50,708 --> 00:41:53,906 you gave no indication that you would have sex with them? 809 00:41:53,945 --> 00:41:56,505 I told you, I didn't know them very... 810 00:41:56,547 --> 00:41:59,107 Yes or no, Ms. Fermi. Can you swear to it? 811 00:42:01,052 --> 00:42:03,681 I cannot believe that I would've done that. 812 00:42:03,721 --> 00:42:06,281 Isn't it possible you might've forgotten 813 00:42:06,324 --> 00:42:08,623 you consented and in a moment of panic 814 00:42:08,659 --> 00:42:10,890 thought you were being raped? 815 00:42:12,497 --> 00:42:15,467 If you think a woman doesn't know 816 00:42:15,500 --> 00:42:17,799 when she's being raped, 817 00:42:17,835 --> 00:42:21,328 I hope you never find out how wrong you are. 818 00:42:27,879 --> 00:42:30,974 She was well-prepped. At least you're still in the ring. 819 00:42:31,015 --> 00:42:33,644 She was good. She could've been turned against herself. 820 00:42:33,684 --> 00:42:35,312 She's about to be. 821 00:42:35,353 --> 00:42:37,151 Andrea slept with someone else 822 00:42:37,188 --> 00:42:38,816 the night before the party. 823 00:42:38,856 --> 00:42:41,189 Old boyfriend. They call him tomorrow. 824 00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:44,659 Son of a bitch. 825 00:42:44,695 --> 00:42:47,164 Our engaged victim. 826 00:42:47,198 --> 00:42:48,996 That's the trump card. 827 00:42:49,033 --> 00:42:51,002 Call her. I want to see her. 828 00:42:51,035 --> 00:42:53,027 I want to see her now. 829 00:42:56,407 --> 00:42:58,007 How could they have found out about that? 830 00:42:58,042 --> 00:43:00,341 They have investigators, too. 831 00:43:00,378 --> 00:43:03,041 You realize you've put this entire case in jeopardy? 832 00:43:03,081 --> 00:43:05,949 If you had told us, we may have been able to work around it. 833 00:43:05,983 --> 00:43:07,952 He was lonely, he wanted me back. 834 00:43:07,985 --> 00:43:11,820 He told me how beautiful I was. 835 00:43:18,329 --> 00:43:20,821 I let him kiss me... It just happened. 836 00:43:22,667 --> 00:43:26,502 You always said that prior sexual experience wasn't relevant. 837 00:43:26,537 --> 00:43:28,802 It was the night before, for God's sake. 838 00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:31,469 In the jury's mind, it bears directly 839 00:43:31,509 --> 00:43:33,808 on your attitude toward casual sex. 840 00:43:33,845 --> 00:43:36,815 You testified you thought you were engaged. 841 00:43:36,848 --> 00:43:39,943 But it doesn't change the fact that I was raped! 842 00:43:42,854 --> 00:43:44,550 Or do you think it does? 843 00:43:50,361 --> 00:43:52,660 What I don't understand is why were there only 844 00:43:52,697 --> 00:43:56,259 two types of semen present? It's viable for 24 hours. 845 00:43:56,300 --> 00:43:59,668 Because Jimmy and I used a condom. 846 00:43:59,704 --> 00:44:01,639 I always do. 847 00:44:03,674 --> 00:44:05,472 No exceptions? 848 00:44:05,510 --> 00:44:07,274 Never. 849 00:44:10,648 --> 00:44:12,844 Gould: Mr. Hollis, you knew about this case. 850 00:44:12,884 --> 00:44:14,443 Why didn't you try and contact 851 00:44:14,485 --> 00:44:16,954 - either the defense or the prosecution? - Why would I? 852 00:44:16,988 --> 00:44:18,718 It had nothing to do with the rape. 853 00:44:18,756 --> 00:44:20,452 Alleged rape. 854 00:44:20,491 --> 00:44:21,982 Right. 855 00:44:23,995 --> 00:44:26,464 Then I talked to the man in your office, 856 00:44:26,497 --> 00:44:29,331 and I guess I realized I didn't have any choice. 857 00:44:30,668 --> 00:44:32,967 Thank you. No more questions. 858 00:44:33,004 --> 00:44:38,466 Mr. Hollis, you testified this was an impulsive act on both your parts? 859 00:44:38,509 --> 00:44:40,637 It happened pretty quick, yes. 860 00:44:40,678 --> 00:44:45,048 Was any precaution taken against disease transmission or pregnancy? 861 00:44:45,082 --> 00:44:46,983 We used a condom. 862 00:44:47,018 --> 00:44:49,487 So despite the passion of the moment, 863 00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:51,489 - you still took the time? - She insisted. 864 00:44:51,522 --> 00:44:54,321 - She always did. - Always? 865 00:44:54,358 --> 00:44:57,328 Yes, always. 866 00:44:57,361 --> 00:44:58,829 Thank you. 867 00:44:58,863 --> 00:45:02,857 Your Honor, the People would like to recall a previous witness. 868 00:45:02,900 --> 00:45:05,267 Andrea always demanded we use them. 869 00:45:05,303 --> 00:45:07,101 She was fanatical about it. 870 00:45:07,138 --> 00:45:11,098 So if she were voluntarily having sex with someone, 871 00:45:11,142 --> 00:45:13,111 it would not be unprotected? 872 00:45:13,144 --> 00:45:15,113 Objection, calls for a conclusion. 873 00:45:15,146 --> 00:45:17,445 Then I'll rephrase the question. 874 00:45:17,481 --> 00:45:20,781 Mr. Burnham, in your relationship with Ms. Fermi, 875 00:45:20,818 --> 00:45:22,946 who purchased the prophylactics? 876 00:45:22,987 --> 00:45:24,615 I usually had them. 877 00:45:24,655 --> 00:45:26,886 If I didn't, she always kept one in her purse. 878 00:45:26,924 --> 00:45:28,893 Thank you. No further questions. 879 00:45:35,166 --> 00:45:37,135 Concerning the defendant Joel Holder, 880 00:45:37,168 --> 00:45:39,296 on the charge of rape in the first degree, 881 00:45:39,337 --> 00:45:40,771 how does the jury find? 882 00:45:40,805 --> 00:45:43,434 We find the defendant not guilty. 883 00:45:45,176 --> 00:45:47,475 Concerning the defendant Theodore Campion, 884 00:45:47,511 --> 00:45:49,639 on the charge of the rape in the first degree, 885 00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:51,080 how does the jury find? 886 00:45:51,115 --> 00:45:53,846 We find the defendant not guilty. 887 00:46:14,639 --> 00:46:17,973 Reporter: Ms. Fermi! Ms. Fermi, how do you feel about this? 888 00:46:22,980 --> 00:46:24,949 Reporter #2: Ms. Fermi! 889 00:46:24,982 --> 00:46:26,951 Was that a bad decision?! 890 00:46:26,984 --> 00:46:29,476 Don't do this to yourself. You did nothing wrong. 891 00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:31,113 They knew what they did to me. 892 00:46:31,155 --> 00:46:32,953 They knew I didn't want them to. 893 00:46:32,990 --> 00:46:35,482 - And that jury told me I'm guilty. - They were wrong. 894 00:46:35,526 --> 00:46:38,086 I went through all of this for nothing. 895 00:46:38,129 --> 00:46:40,098 It may seem like that this second, 896 00:46:40,131 --> 00:46:42,794 but this verdict will outrage people, and the next time... 897 00:46:42,833 --> 00:46:45,132 Great, thank you. Thank you for the pep talk. 898 00:46:45,169 --> 00:46:48,333 It's nice to know I performed a public service. 899 00:46:48,372 --> 00:46:51,206 Ms. Fermi, Ms. Fermi. 900 00:46:51,242 --> 00:46:54,644 The jury made a mistake, the system let you down. I'm sorry. 901 00:46:56,681 --> 00:46:58,673 So am I, Mr. Stone.69137

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