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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,770 --> 00:00:04,872 Your mother predicted Natalie Wood's death? 2 00:00:04,873 --> 00:00:06,641 Yes! 3 00:00:06,642 --> 00:00:09,245 - What are you trying to do? **** my wife? - What? 4 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:11,647 There wouldn't be autopsies? 5 00:00:11,648 --> 00:00:13,683 Nope. 6 00:00:13,684 --> 00:00:16,553 I bought the Kevorkian Deathmobile. 7 00:00:16,554 --> 00:00:19,323 Can you try to get in the back of the van? 8 00:00:21,961 --> 00:00:24,063 Since I was a young boy, 9 00:00:24,064 --> 00:00:26,565 I've been collecting haunted artifacts, 10 00:00:26,566 --> 00:00:29,769 drawn to the dark and mysterious energy they carry. 11 00:00:29,770 --> 00:00:31,671 The Manson murders will go down as 12 00:00:31,672 --> 00:00:34,375 one of the most heinous crimes of all time. 13 00:00:34,376 --> 00:00:37,646 Through my career as a paranormal investigator, 14 00:00:37,647 --> 00:00:40,182 I've been able to build my collection. 15 00:00:40,183 --> 00:00:42,284 Now I'm building a museum... 16 00:00:42,285 --> 00:00:44,487 The Conjure Chest is one of the deadliest 17 00:00:44,488 --> 00:00:46,457 - haunted artifacts in existence. - Robert the Doll. 18 00:00:46,460 --> 00:00:48,992 He has affected thousands of people. 19 00:00:48,993 --> 00:00:50,294 ...and providing a place 20 00:00:50,295 --> 00:00:52,697 for people to bring their haunted items 21 00:00:52,698 --> 00:00:54,399 and hear their stories. 22 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:56,835 We aid people into coming into the world. 23 00:00:56,836 --> 00:00:59,437 Why can't we aid them in exiting the world? 24 00:00:59,439 --> 00:01:03,644 These are my deadly possessions. 25 00:01:06,047 --> 00:01:11,018 We are about to discuss a very sad, a very mysterious, 26 00:01:11,019 --> 00:01:15,023 and a very famous story 27 00:01:15,024 --> 00:01:18,061 that is connected to these objects. 28 00:01:19,763 --> 00:01:23,500 All these times came from the Splendour yacht. 29 00:01:23,501 --> 00:01:28,439 In 1981, Academy Award-nominated, 30 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:32,479 Golden Globe-winning actress Natalie Wood 31 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:37,652 died mysteriously when she was aboard the Splendour yacht. 32 00:01:42,958 --> 00:01:46,394 She was on the boat with her husband, Robert Wagner, 33 00:01:46,395 --> 00:01:49,997 who played Number Two in "Austin Powers," 34 00:01:49,999 --> 00:01:52,201 actor Christopher Walken, 35 00:01:52,202 --> 00:01:55,139 and the boat's captain, Dennis Davern. 36 00:01:57,108 --> 00:01:59,143 With so many unanswered questions 37 00:01:59,144 --> 00:02:03,215 about her death that night, 38 00:02:03,216 --> 00:02:05,451 there's a lot of paranormal activity 39 00:02:05,452 --> 00:02:08,621 that is attached to these objects. 40 00:02:10,625 --> 00:02:13,161 We are about to welcome Ron Nelson, 41 00:02:13,162 --> 00:02:17,966 the current owner of the Splendour yacht -- 42 00:02:17,967 --> 00:02:19,468 the same yacht 43 00:02:19,469 --> 00:02:23,704 that Natalie Wood mysteriously died on. 44 00:02:23,706 --> 00:02:25,174 My name is Ron Nelson. 45 00:02:25,175 --> 00:02:26,575 I'm here in Hawaii, 46 00:02:26,576 --> 00:02:30,780 standing in front of my vessel, Splendour. 47 00:02:30,781 --> 00:02:33,885 Zak asked if I could bring up some objects 48 00:02:33,886 --> 00:02:37,823 from the vessel to his museum, so he could examine them and see 49 00:02:37,824 --> 00:02:42,428 if there's any paranormal activity involved with them. 50 00:02:42,429 --> 00:02:44,932 I'm not sure if I believe in ghosts and spirits, 51 00:02:44,933 --> 00:02:46,299 but with the strange things 52 00:02:46,300 --> 00:02:48,603 that have happened aboard Splendour, 53 00:02:48,604 --> 00:02:51,239 I certainly don't discount the possibility. 54 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:53,508 Ron has agreed to bring several items 55 00:02:53,509 --> 00:02:56,745 from the original Splendour yacht to my museum, 56 00:02:56,746 --> 00:03:00,249 including the steering wheel, radar, and life preservers. 57 00:03:00,250 --> 00:03:02,352 Because of the strange experiences 58 00:03:02,353 --> 00:03:04,655 Ron has had aboard the yacht 59 00:03:04,656 --> 00:03:07,625 and the mystery surrounding Natalie Wood's death, 60 00:03:07,626 --> 00:03:10,295 I want to see if these specific objects 61 00:03:10,296 --> 00:03:13,266 have any residual energy connected to them. 62 00:03:13,267 --> 00:03:16,268 Ron Nelson, tell me who you are 63 00:03:16,269 --> 00:03:19,639 and what you have to do with the Splendour yacht 64 00:03:19,640 --> 00:03:21,207 and these items. 65 00:03:21,208 --> 00:03:25,980 I have owned Splendour for about, 30 years -- 66 00:03:25,981 --> 00:03:30,386 about five or six years after the death of Natalie Wood. 67 00:03:30,387 --> 00:03:33,624 Very, very famous case, very famous person. 68 00:03:37,662 --> 00:03:40,697 Even to this day, people still are curious 69 00:03:40,698 --> 00:03:43,868 about what happened that night and the mystery of her death. 70 00:03:45,437 --> 00:03:50,176 Yeah, you say that, and in 2011, they reopened the case, 71 00:03:50,177 --> 00:03:52,579 because the captain, Dennis Davern, 72 00:03:52,580 --> 00:03:55,582 actually stated some things in his book. 73 00:03:55,583 --> 00:03:57,017 Nine months later, 74 00:03:57,018 --> 00:04:01,022 the chief medical examiner changed her death certificate 75 00:04:01,023 --> 00:04:06,664 from "drowning" to "drowning with undetermined factors." 76 00:04:17,209 --> 00:04:18,643 And I know that there were some bruises 77 00:04:18,644 --> 00:04:20,879 and stuff like that on Natalie Wood, 78 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:22,448 and they were unable to determine 79 00:04:22,449 --> 00:04:27,054 if she suffered those before or after she got off the boat. 80 00:04:29,858 --> 00:04:33,628 With a lot of unanswered questions with this case 81 00:04:33,629 --> 00:04:35,864 and a death attached to it, 82 00:04:35,865 --> 00:04:39,435 there's going to be what I believe an unrested soul -- 83 00:04:39,436 --> 00:04:41,339 that of Natalie Wood. 84 00:04:44,609 --> 00:04:46,610 Natalie Wood's body was discovered 85 00:04:46,611 --> 00:04:49,781 in the water near the Splendour yacht 86 00:04:49,782 --> 00:04:54,953 and close to the boat's dinghy, named The Valiant. 87 00:04:54,954 --> 00:04:56,288 Do you believe in ghosts? 88 00:04:56,289 --> 00:04:59,526 I won't say I believe in ghosts, 89 00:04:59,527 --> 00:05:02,729 but I won't say I don't believe in ghosts, you know, 'cause... 90 00:05:02,730 --> 00:05:04,298 Because of what? 91 00:05:04,299 --> 00:05:06,234 Like I say, strange occurrences. 92 00:05:08,236 --> 00:05:10,373 Who sold it to you? 93 00:05:10,374 --> 00:05:13,742 I bought it at an auction from a doctor, 94 00:05:13,743 --> 00:05:17,546 and I used to go back and forth from Hawaii to California 95 00:05:17,548 --> 00:05:19,449 to fix it up. 96 00:05:19,450 --> 00:05:20,852 One day, I was working on the boat, 97 00:05:20,853 --> 00:05:22,219 and I was finished for the night, 98 00:05:22,220 --> 00:05:24,223 and the phone started ringing on the boat. 99 00:05:24,224 --> 00:05:25,190 I'm going, "Who would call me?" 100 00:05:26,492 --> 00:05:29,028 The phone was down in Natalie's bedroom. 101 00:05:29,029 --> 00:05:31,564 I stepped on the bottom stairs, 102 00:05:31,565 --> 00:05:33,700 and it felt like someone grabbed my ankles. 103 00:05:33,701 --> 00:05:34,968 What? 104 00:05:34,969 --> 00:05:36,236 And I went through the floor 105 00:05:36,237 --> 00:05:41,008 and hit one of the studs on my shin. 106 00:05:41,009 --> 00:05:42,644 Then the phone stopped ringing, 107 00:05:42,645 --> 00:05:45,147 soon as I went through the floor to the bottom of the boat. 108 00:05:45,148 --> 00:05:47,785 Dang. You're giving me chills now. 109 00:05:49,253 --> 00:05:52,522 I had 40 stitches in my shin, 110 00:05:52,523 --> 00:05:55,426 and the scar's in the shape of a "V." 111 00:05:55,427 --> 00:05:57,128 Wasn't the dinghy named Valiant? 112 00:05:57,129 --> 00:05:58,496 - Yes, it was. - It was, wasn't it? 113 00:05:58,499 --> 00:06:00,998 So, you connected that to that. 114 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:02,202 Yes, it was. 115 00:06:02,203 --> 00:06:03,402 That's crazy. 116 00:06:03,403 --> 00:06:06,906 The dinghy named Valiant was missing from the Splendour 117 00:06:06,907 --> 00:06:08,308 when Natalie Wood's body 118 00:06:08,309 --> 00:06:11,012 was found floating facedown in the ocean. 119 00:06:11,013 --> 00:06:12,380 Could this be a clue 120 00:06:12,381 --> 00:06:14,849 in the mysterious death of Natalie Wood? 121 00:06:14,851 --> 00:06:16,851 So, you believe that she did that to you? 122 00:06:16,852 --> 00:06:18,387 If I believed in ghosts, I would. 123 00:06:18,388 --> 00:06:20,623 Well, it's starting to sound like you are, Ron. 124 00:06:20,624 --> 00:06:24,662 I've been hurt. I'm not gonna argue with her. 125 00:06:24,663 --> 00:06:26,663 Maybe she just wants me to remember her, 126 00:06:26,664 --> 00:06:28,632 so she put a scar on me. 127 00:06:28,633 --> 00:06:31,268 Maybe that night, when she did drown -- 128 00:06:31,269 --> 00:06:33,638 and, you know, we don't know how -- 129 00:06:33,639 --> 00:06:37,076 maybe her spirit came back to the boat -- to the yacht. 130 00:06:38,445 --> 00:06:41,215 I believe that Natalie Wood is at unrest. 131 00:06:41,216 --> 00:06:43,850 She knows what happened. We don't. 132 00:06:43,851 --> 00:06:46,821 I can't help but think that Natalie lingers here, 133 00:06:46,822 --> 00:06:49,256 waiting for her story to be told -- 134 00:06:49,257 --> 00:06:52,694 perhaps even attached to these very objects. 135 00:06:52,695 --> 00:06:55,866 I need to speak to one of the only three survivors 136 00:06:55,867 --> 00:06:57,433 of that night 137 00:06:57,434 --> 00:07:00,838 who can fully confirm the origins of these items -- 138 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:03,441 ship captain Dennis Davern. 139 00:07:03,442 --> 00:07:06,111 How's it feel to look at that stuff? 140 00:07:06,112 --> 00:07:09,281 Yeah, it's kind of, um... 141 00:07:09,282 --> 00:07:11,150 It's kind of weird looking at it. 142 00:07:12,685 --> 00:07:14,153 You know, that steering wheel 143 00:07:14,154 --> 00:07:17,291 was there all the time in front of me. 144 00:07:17,292 --> 00:07:19,760 When's the last time you saw this stuff? 145 00:07:19,762 --> 00:07:20,762 Almost two years ago. 146 00:07:20,763 --> 00:07:23,898 I went to Hawaii and... 147 00:07:23,899 --> 00:07:25,434 Wait -- Is that when they reopened the case? 148 00:07:25,435 --> 00:07:26,969 That's when they reopened the case, 149 00:07:26,970 --> 00:07:34,343 and I went to Hawaii with two L.A. homicide detectives. 150 00:07:36,682 --> 00:07:39,151 Dennis, did they reopen the case because of you? 151 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:42,287 Not because of me. 152 00:07:42,288 --> 00:07:45,392 I think it was so they could continue the investigation. 153 00:07:49,330 --> 00:07:51,799 Dennis, you were on board that night. 154 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:54,101 Yes, I was. 155 00:07:54,102 --> 00:07:56,471 The four of us -- myself... 156 00:07:56,472 --> 00:07:58,673 Christopher Walken -- Actor Christopher Walken, 157 00:07:58,674 --> 00:08:01,176 Robert Wagner, Natalie Wood, and yourself. 158 00:08:03,246 --> 00:08:05,582 We had returned to the boat 159 00:08:05,583 --> 00:08:09,653 after dinner and some drinks and stuff like that. 160 00:08:09,654 --> 00:08:11,522 Was everybody pretty drunk at that time? 161 00:08:11,523 --> 00:08:14,759 Yes. Yeah. Very drunk. 162 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:17,429 Everybody gets drunk, there's one woman... 163 00:08:17,430 --> 00:08:19,433 Yeah, things change. 164 00:08:22,169 --> 00:08:25,139 Do you think that Christopher Walken was... 165 00:08:26,441 --> 00:08:28,143 ...hitting on Natalie? 166 00:08:29,745 --> 00:08:32,581 No. I don't think he was really hitting on her. 167 00:08:32,582 --> 00:08:36,653 But the way Robert Wagner saw it in his eyes, he was. 168 00:08:38,355 --> 00:08:41,691 The anger was just -- It was just incredible. 169 00:08:41,692 --> 00:08:43,161 It was horrible. 170 00:08:44,763 --> 00:08:47,698 Did you hear him say something in that argument? 171 00:08:47,699 --> 00:08:53,840 The one main sentence in his anger to Christopher was, 172 00:08:53,841 --> 00:08:57,377 "What are you trying to do? **** my wife?" 173 00:08:57,378 --> 00:09:01,216 And after that, everything that was said after that was... 174 00:09:02,617 --> 00:09:05,252 He picked up a bottle of wine 175 00:09:05,254 --> 00:09:07,324 and smashed it on the table... 176 00:09:08,424 --> 00:09:10,459 ...the glass shattering all over. 177 00:09:10,461 --> 00:09:12,061 So there was a lot of anger. 178 00:09:12,062 --> 00:09:14,698 God, it was horrible. 179 00:09:14,699 --> 00:09:16,099 When that took place, 180 00:09:16,101 --> 00:09:19,036 Christopher decided to go to his room, 181 00:09:19,037 --> 00:09:21,973 and Natalie went to her room. 182 00:09:21,974 --> 00:09:24,077 Robert Wagner followed. 183 00:09:26,814 --> 00:09:29,615 The fighting continued in the stateroom. 184 00:09:29,616 --> 00:09:35,424 I mean, it was, like, things being thrown around -- 185 00:09:35,425 --> 00:09:39,161 just a horrible, horrible physical fight. 186 00:09:40,664 --> 00:09:43,333 There were so many loud noises. 187 00:09:45,736 --> 00:09:51,309 And I had two beeswax candles that were on the table. 188 00:09:51,310 --> 00:09:55,847 I had one of the candles lit, and it shows how long 189 00:09:55,848 --> 00:09:59,286 the arguing was before her death. 190 00:10:00,654 --> 00:10:02,189 Do you think if you went in there 191 00:10:02,190 --> 00:10:04,124 and tried to calm down the situation, 192 00:10:04,125 --> 00:10:05,927 you would've been hurt? 193 00:10:05,928 --> 00:10:09,630 He told me to go away when I knocked on the door, 194 00:10:09,631 --> 00:10:12,434 so I walked up on the bridge, 195 00:10:12,435 --> 00:10:14,936 and then when everything became silent, 196 00:10:14,937 --> 00:10:18,608 I thought, "I need to go down and check what's going on." 197 00:10:20,210 --> 00:10:22,446 He told me, "Natalie's missing." 198 00:10:23,181 --> 00:10:24,781 He says, "Could you check the boat? 199 00:10:24,782 --> 00:10:28,853 Could you check to see if she's anywhere else on the boat?" 200 00:10:28,854 --> 00:10:30,388 I thought, 201 00:10:30,389 --> 00:10:34,427 "Well, maybe just let me check Christopher's stateroom." 202 00:10:34,428 --> 00:10:37,331 I opened the door -- Christopher was asleep. 203 00:10:37,332 --> 00:10:39,800 Whether he was really asleep, I don't know, 204 00:10:39,801 --> 00:10:41,969 but he was asleep. 205 00:10:41,970 --> 00:10:45,072 And I came back and I told Robert Wagner, 206 00:10:45,073 --> 00:10:48,242 I said, "She's not on this boat. 207 00:10:48,244 --> 00:10:50,245 We need to turn on the searchlight. 208 00:10:50,246 --> 00:10:53,216 We need to notify people. 209 00:10:53,217 --> 00:10:54,919 We need to find her." 210 00:10:56,788 --> 00:11:00,490 So, your mother predicted Natalie's death? 211 00:11:00,491 --> 00:11:01,460 Yes! 212 00:11:09,275 --> 00:11:11,608 I've been speaking to Dennis Davern 213 00:11:11,609 --> 00:11:14,246 about the night that Natalie Wood disappeared 214 00:11:14,247 --> 00:11:16,494 on the very yacht that he was the captain of. 215 00:11:16,699 --> 00:11:19,301 What time of night was this? 216 00:11:19,302 --> 00:11:21,471 11:00-something at night. 217 00:11:21,472 --> 00:11:23,708 He said, "Let's have a drink." 218 00:11:24,775 --> 00:11:28,044 I felt like I was just getting -- 219 00:11:28,045 --> 00:11:31,082 made to drink more and more and more, 220 00:11:31,083 --> 00:11:38,557 and finally, after a long time... 221 00:11:38,558 --> 00:11:41,895 we notified the people ashore. 222 00:11:41,896 --> 00:11:44,833 And then the police did a helicopter search at daybreak. 223 00:11:47,002 --> 00:11:50,272 And then they discovered her body. 224 00:11:50,273 --> 00:11:51,640 How do you know 225 00:11:51,641 --> 00:11:54,811 that Natalie Wood didn't just get angry 226 00:11:54,812 --> 00:11:57,947 and try to take the dinghy back to shore? 227 00:11:57,948 --> 00:12:00,117 Well, number one, she would've called me and said, 228 00:12:00,118 --> 00:12:02,587 "Dennis, could you move the boat?" 229 00:12:02,588 --> 00:12:04,522 And that's my job. 230 00:12:04,524 --> 00:12:07,325 So she wouldn't have done that. 231 00:12:07,326 --> 00:12:09,129 You know, when we're drunk, we make bad decisions. 232 00:12:09,130 --> 00:12:10,830 Do you ever think Natalie Wood 233 00:12:10,831 --> 00:12:12,531 just got so fed up of this stuff? 234 00:12:12,532 --> 00:12:14,066 Absolutely not. 235 00:12:14,068 --> 00:12:16,103 She wasn't... 236 00:12:16,104 --> 00:12:19,775 She wasn't that drunk, and even if she was, 237 00:12:19,776 --> 00:12:23,311 I guarantee she wouldn't even attempt... 238 00:12:24,581 --> 00:12:26,211 ...to do anything with the dinghy. 239 00:12:27,317 --> 00:12:28,450 Absolutely not. 240 00:12:28,451 --> 00:12:31,688 She was deathly afraid of water. 241 00:12:32,757 --> 00:12:34,291 Terrified of the water. 242 00:12:36,661 --> 00:12:39,030 A woman terrified of the water 243 00:12:39,031 --> 00:12:42,635 is found floating in it under mysterious circumstances. 244 00:12:42,636 --> 00:12:44,204 This is too bizarre. 245 00:12:44,205 --> 00:12:47,306 I feel like I need to know more about who Natalie was 246 00:12:47,307 --> 00:12:49,109 and the root of her fear. 247 00:12:49,110 --> 00:12:52,579 To do that, I will speak to her sister, Lana Wood, 248 00:12:52,580 --> 00:12:56,350 who is here to share intimate details about Natalie. 249 00:12:56,352 --> 00:12:57,953 I want to ask you some questions, 250 00:12:57,954 --> 00:12:59,921 but if there's any that you don't want to answer, 251 00:12:59,923 --> 00:13:01,257 anything like that, just let me know. 252 00:13:01,258 --> 00:13:02,291 Okay. 253 00:13:02,292 --> 00:13:04,628 These are some objects from the... 254 00:13:04,629 --> 00:13:05,863 Yes, they are. Wow. 255 00:13:05,864 --> 00:13:07,297 ...from the yacht. 256 00:13:07,298 --> 00:13:09,034 Wow. 257 00:13:11,170 --> 00:13:15,474 They were brought here from Ron. 258 00:13:15,475 --> 00:13:16,742 Yeah. 259 00:13:16,743 --> 00:13:19,713 Do you believe that your sister, 260 00:13:19,714 --> 00:13:22,015 her spirit is not at rest? 261 00:13:22,016 --> 00:13:26,487 And has she ever made contact with you, Lana? 262 00:13:26,488 --> 00:13:28,756 I- I don't... 263 00:13:28,757 --> 00:13:30,157 I don't really know. 264 00:13:30,159 --> 00:13:32,194 I don't know whether she's at rest or not. 265 00:13:32,195 --> 00:13:34,497 I think she's trying to be. 266 00:13:34,498 --> 00:13:36,432 Um... 267 00:13:36,433 --> 00:13:39,904 She was a very, very concerned, very loving mother 268 00:13:39,905 --> 00:13:41,839 and was very worried about her girls. 269 00:13:43,441 --> 00:13:46,578 One time, when I was in my home, 270 00:13:46,579 --> 00:13:52,553 I saw white, but diaphanous white, moving. 271 00:13:54,989 --> 00:13:56,990 And I thought, "What on Earth is that? 272 00:13:56,991 --> 00:13:59,961 Maybe condensation from the air conditioner." 273 00:13:59,962 --> 00:14:00,897 Like a mist? 274 00:14:00,898 --> 00:14:02,598 Yeah, but moving. Yeah. 275 00:14:04,701 --> 00:14:06,869 Yeah, I don't think I've ever seen a heater 276 00:14:06,870 --> 00:14:11,341 or air conditioner cause visible mist before. 277 00:14:11,342 --> 00:14:12,710 - No. - Did you feel anything? 278 00:14:12,713 --> 00:14:14,512 - Obviously, that wasn't it. - Right. 279 00:14:14,515 --> 00:14:17,047 It was unnerving to me, 280 00:14:17,049 --> 00:14:23,622 and I actually said, "I don't know why you're here, 281 00:14:23,623 --> 00:14:25,992 but I can't deal with you right now. 282 00:14:25,993 --> 00:14:28,227 Please go. Rest in peace. 283 00:14:28,228 --> 00:14:31,031 Please leave. I don't want you here." 284 00:14:31,032 --> 00:14:33,233 And I never saw it again. Never. 285 00:14:33,234 --> 00:14:34,368 I didn't feel 286 00:14:34,369 --> 00:14:38,606 that it was threatening or anything frightening. 287 00:14:38,607 --> 00:14:40,409 It doesn't really bother me. 288 00:14:40,410 --> 00:14:44,080 And I would welcome it now. 289 00:14:44,081 --> 00:14:46,817 Scared me before, but it doesn't anymore. 290 00:14:50,823 --> 00:14:55,996 Natalie drowning or... 291 00:14:58,498 --> 00:15:02,669 ...ending up in the water... 292 00:15:02,670 --> 00:15:04,972 in itself is completely bizarre, 293 00:15:04,973 --> 00:15:08,176 because she was terrified of water, 294 00:15:08,177 --> 00:15:11,747 going back to when I was a kid. 295 00:15:11,748 --> 00:15:15,017 Our mother was rather superstitious. 296 00:15:15,018 --> 00:15:17,854 She used to always tell Natalie and I both 297 00:15:17,855 --> 00:15:20,324 that in China, a gypsy woman told her 298 00:15:20,325 --> 00:15:23,894 that she was going to have two daughters, 299 00:15:23,895 --> 00:15:25,197 that she saw fame, 300 00:15:25,198 --> 00:15:27,799 there was gonna be a great deal of fame, 301 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:31,203 but they said there would a loss through drowning. 302 00:15:31,204 --> 00:15:33,073 - What? - Yeah. 303 00:15:33,076 --> 00:15:35,742 And she had been telling me that story -- 304 00:15:35,743 --> 00:15:38,645 Who told -- told your mother this? 305 00:15:38,646 --> 00:15:39,881 Yes! 306 00:15:41,150 --> 00:15:43,250 Your mother told you and Natalie 307 00:15:43,251 --> 00:15:46,188 there would be a loss from drowning in your family? 308 00:15:46,189 --> 00:15:47,790 Yes. 309 00:15:47,791 --> 00:15:51,194 So your mother predicted Natalie's death? 310 00:15:51,195 --> 00:15:52,129 Yes. 311 00:15:59,605 --> 00:16:03,441 Can I ask you what you believe happened 312 00:16:03,442 --> 00:16:06,012 to your sister that evening? 313 00:16:09,282 --> 00:16:11,484 Alcohol... 314 00:16:11,486 --> 00:16:13,787 anger... 315 00:16:13,788 --> 00:16:15,857 I don't believe for an instant 316 00:16:15,858 --> 00:16:20,763 that anything was done purposely. 317 00:16:29,540 --> 00:16:31,642 I don't think she's at rest yet. 318 00:16:33,712 --> 00:16:36,181 Too many things have happened. 319 00:16:36,182 --> 00:16:37,784 What kind of things? 320 00:16:39,252 --> 00:16:44,123 I've had this clock for years, 321 00:16:44,124 --> 00:16:45,559 and it never worked. 322 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:47,194 A clock that she gave you? 323 00:16:47,195 --> 00:16:48,829 Yeah. 324 00:16:48,830 --> 00:16:50,933 About a month ago... 325 00:16:53,670 --> 00:16:57,273 ...the clock starts to chime all by itself. 326 00:16:57,274 --> 00:16:58,776 What? 327 00:17:00,710 --> 00:17:01,845 After years? 328 00:17:01,846 --> 00:17:03,914 I just couldn't figure out 329 00:17:03,915 --> 00:17:06,184 why that clock would just start again. 330 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:15,261 Okay, there's one other thing, Zak, 331 00:17:15,262 --> 00:17:16,864 that you might be interested in. 332 00:17:16,865 --> 00:17:19,400 The Hawaiian people are very into their culture... 333 00:17:19,401 --> 00:17:20,768 - Very spiritual. - Yes. 334 00:17:20,771 --> 00:17:22,203 And I had a kahuna -- 335 00:17:22,204 --> 00:17:24,106 They call them kahunas in Hawaii. 336 00:17:25,741 --> 00:17:27,342 Like a Hawaiian priest. 337 00:17:27,343 --> 00:17:30,312 We flew him up to bless Splendour. 338 00:17:30,313 --> 00:17:33,850 Wait -- Why would you have this kahuna 339 00:17:33,851 --> 00:17:37,889 come to the Splendour and have him bless it 340 00:17:37,890 --> 00:17:39,657 if you don't believe in ghosts? 341 00:17:39,658 --> 00:17:40,924 Maybe I believe a little bit. 342 00:17:40,925 --> 00:17:42,928 Okay, we're getting somewhere now. 343 00:17:42,929 --> 00:17:45,197 I picked him up at the airport. 344 00:17:45,198 --> 00:17:48,167 He's about the size of a football player, 345 00:17:48,168 --> 00:17:50,136 sunglasses, and I can see tears 346 00:17:50,137 --> 00:17:53,306 coming down his cheek through the sunglasses. 347 00:17:53,307 --> 00:17:54,742 - He was crying. - Really? 348 00:17:55,911 --> 00:17:57,879 He says, "There's so much sadness here." 349 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:01,783 He says, "I'm having a hard time with it." 350 00:18:01,784 --> 00:18:04,586 So he believed that there was also bad spirits on the boat... 351 00:18:04,587 --> 00:18:05,888 Yes. 352 00:18:05,889 --> 00:18:08,191 ...from the moment, maybe, of her death. 353 00:18:08,192 --> 00:18:09,626 After he blessed it, 354 00:18:09,627 --> 00:18:13,664 we went up to the very top of the boat. 355 00:18:13,665 --> 00:18:16,100 He says, "The bad spirits are gone. 356 00:18:16,101 --> 00:18:19,471 It's time for you to make the good spirits welcome here." 357 00:18:19,472 --> 00:18:22,208 And when he said that, it was like you walked into 358 00:18:22,209 --> 00:18:24,310 an air-conditioned, ice-cold room. 359 00:18:24,311 --> 00:18:25,245 I've experienced that. 360 00:18:25,246 --> 00:18:26,947 - Yeah, you have? - I know. I know. 361 00:18:26,950 --> 00:18:28,482 It's a beautiful moment, though. 362 00:18:28,483 --> 00:18:29,884 - It is. - It's surreal. 363 00:18:29,887 --> 00:18:32,554 You were talking about her using other elements. 364 00:18:32,555 --> 00:18:34,322 That was -- 365 00:18:34,323 --> 00:18:35,924 See? I am. 366 00:18:35,925 --> 00:18:37,593 That was a real thing. 367 00:18:37,594 --> 00:18:39,695 So that marked you, that moment? 368 00:18:39,696 --> 00:18:41,064 Yeah, I'll never forget that, 369 00:18:41,065 --> 00:18:43,667 and the feeling about how quickly it changed. 370 00:18:43,668 --> 00:18:45,669 It wasn't like a wind came up. 371 00:18:45,670 --> 00:18:47,204 It was the atmosphere -- 372 00:18:47,205 --> 00:18:50,676 hot and humid to crisp, cold air. 373 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:01,689 How do you feel about these objects? 374 00:19:01,690 --> 00:19:03,057 You want to stand up and... 375 00:19:03,058 --> 00:19:05,594 - Yes. I would. - This is the actual wheel, and... 376 00:19:08,898 --> 00:19:12,301 I don't want to go near the life preserver. 377 00:19:15,205 --> 00:19:17,074 She could've been saved. 378 00:19:20,078 --> 00:19:22,113 It's mixed-feeling, these items, 379 00:19:22,114 --> 00:19:26,284 'cause she did have good memories there, as well, 380 00:19:26,285 --> 00:19:28,688 but, um... 381 00:19:28,689 --> 00:19:31,090 there's isn't any happiness now. 382 00:19:31,091 --> 00:19:32,326 Right. 383 00:19:37,799 --> 00:19:38,900 Thank you. 384 00:19:38,901 --> 00:19:40,837 Thank you. 385 00:19:42,105 --> 00:19:44,306 These were on the coffee table 386 00:19:44,307 --> 00:19:47,110 the last night of Natalie's life. 387 00:19:54,725 --> 00:19:56,825 There were a pair of beeswax candles 388 00:19:56,826 --> 00:19:59,629 on the coffee table aboard the Splendour yacht 389 00:19:59,630 --> 00:20:01,464 the night Natalie Wood disappeared. 390 00:20:01,465 --> 00:20:03,701 Two beeswax candles that were on the table. 391 00:20:03,702 --> 00:20:05,837 I had one of the candles lit, 392 00:20:05,838 --> 00:20:10,309 and it shows how long the arguing was 393 00:20:10,310 --> 00:20:11,910 before her death. 394 00:20:11,911 --> 00:20:13,980 The ship's captain, Dennis Davern, 395 00:20:13,981 --> 00:20:15,382 lit one of the candles 396 00:20:15,383 --> 00:20:18,686 when the argument between Robert and Natalie began. 397 00:20:18,687 --> 00:20:22,857 So, the amount of time the argument started 398 00:20:22,858 --> 00:20:26,862 till her death was that amount of time. 399 00:20:26,863 --> 00:20:29,699 He's held on to them for over three decades 400 00:20:29,700 --> 00:20:32,301 as a reminder of this tragic event. 401 00:20:32,302 --> 00:20:36,273 I would like to show Lana Wood them. 402 00:20:36,274 --> 00:20:39,044 Have you ever showed these objects to her? 403 00:20:39,045 --> 00:20:40,880 - No, I haven't. - Okay. 404 00:20:40,883 --> 00:20:42,981 Do you think that you would like to share 405 00:20:42,982 --> 00:20:44,851 and show her the candles? 406 00:20:48,255 --> 00:20:51,058 It's fine with me, if it's okay with her. 407 00:20:51,059 --> 00:20:53,360 I want Dennis to share these candles 408 00:20:53,361 --> 00:20:54,862 and their story with Lana 409 00:20:54,863 --> 00:20:57,532 in hopes of giving her some emotional closure 410 00:20:57,533 --> 00:21:00,236 about her sister, Natalie Wood. 411 00:21:00,237 --> 00:21:03,272 I was wondering if you wanted to see them. 412 00:21:03,273 --> 00:21:04,941 Yes, I would like to, actually. 413 00:21:04,942 --> 00:21:06,309 - You would? Okay. - Yes. I would. 414 00:21:06,312 --> 00:21:08,011 I just wanted to ask you first, 415 00:21:08,012 --> 00:21:09,814 and he wanted me to ask you first. 416 00:21:12,050 --> 00:21:13,118 Lana, have a seat. 417 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:14,186 Okay. 418 00:21:16,489 --> 00:21:18,323 Dennis, it's okay. 419 00:21:18,324 --> 00:21:22,428 And I'd like for you to show Lana 420 00:21:22,429 --> 00:21:23,930 what these objects are. 421 00:21:23,931 --> 00:21:25,333 - Okay. - Okay? 422 00:21:25,336 --> 00:21:26,534 - Lana. - Yeah. 423 00:21:26,537 --> 00:21:28,202 These... 424 00:21:28,203 --> 00:21:31,138 You know Natalie liked beeswax candles. 425 00:21:31,139 --> 00:21:32,441 Yes. 426 00:21:32,442 --> 00:21:36,112 Well, these were on the coffee table 427 00:21:36,113 --> 00:21:39,315 the last night of her life, 428 00:21:39,316 --> 00:21:42,753 when the wine bottle smashing on that table. 429 00:21:42,754 --> 00:21:45,189 These candles were in the candle holders, 430 00:21:45,190 --> 00:21:47,591 and when we returned to the boat 431 00:21:47,592 --> 00:21:49,928 from the restaurant that evening, 432 00:21:49,929 --> 00:21:53,031 from when the fight began, this candle here was lit. 433 00:21:53,032 --> 00:21:54,701 I didn't light this candle. 434 00:21:54,702 --> 00:21:57,971 But from this time, 435 00:21:57,972 --> 00:22:00,074 that's from the beginning of the fight 436 00:22:00,075 --> 00:22:01,427 to the end of Natalie's life. 437 00:22:01,428 --> 00:22:02,778 Wow. 438 00:22:14,959 --> 00:22:16,226 When did you -- 439 00:22:16,227 --> 00:22:19,964 Did you take these the next day, 440 00:22:19,965 --> 00:22:22,300 or when did you take the candles? 441 00:22:22,301 --> 00:22:26,038 It took me at least three months to even go down to the boat, 442 00:22:26,039 --> 00:22:30,477 because I just couldn't get myself to go there. 443 00:22:30,478 --> 00:22:33,780 But I started taking everything off the boat, 444 00:22:33,781 --> 00:22:36,751 and that's when I took those. 445 00:22:38,220 --> 00:22:39,788 And they meant something to me. 446 00:22:39,789 --> 00:22:40,924 Absolutely. 447 00:22:44,929 --> 00:22:46,864 Natalie loved candles. 448 00:22:48,132 --> 00:22:50,234 I just wanted him to show you these... 449 00:22:50,235 --> 00:22:51,520 Thank you. 450 00:22:51,521 --> 00:22:52,803 ...just so you could see them. 451 00:22:52,804 --> 00:22:53,804 I think it's important. 452 00:22:55,341 --> 00:22:57,342 I do, too. 453 00:22:57,343 --> 00:22:59,178 - Thank you, Dennis. - You're welcome. 454 00:22:59,181 --> 00:23:01,213 Thank you for everything. 455 00:23:01,214 --> 00:23:02,782 You're welcome, too. 456 00:23:02,783 --> 00:23:05,051 Yeah. Thank you both for coming here. 457 00:23:05,052 --> 00:23:07,289 I really appreciate it, okay? 458 00:23:10,526 --> 00:23:13,494 This story and these interviews have inspired me 459 00:23:13,495 --> 00:23:18,400 to dedicate a room of my museum to the memory of Natalie Wood. 460 00:23:18,401 --> 00:23:19,936 I will make it my mission 461 00:23:19,937 --> 00:23:22,238 to continue reaching out to her spirit 462 00:23:22,239 --> 00:23:26,244 so that one day, I truly hope she can find peace. 463 00:23:33,286 --> 00:23:37,390 A short time ago, I bought an object, 464 00:23:37,391 --> 00:23:42,263 and when I bought this object, it made the news. 465 00:23:42,264 --> 00:23:45,968 I bought the Jack Kevorkian Deathmobile. 466 00:23:48,170 --> 00:23:52,175 And we had to actually demo a wall 467 00:23:52,176 --> 00:23:56,413 to get it into this room, so right now, 468 00:23:56,414 --> 00:24:00,285 the van is just sitting in that room over there. 469 00:24:02,955 --> 00:24:09,629 And Jack Kevorkian's attorney, Geoffrey Fieger, 470 00:24:09,630 --> 00:24:12,599 is about to arrive. 471 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:16,770 Geoffrey Fieger, at first, 472 00:24:16,771 --> 00:24:21,176 said that he didn't believe that the van still existed, 473 00:24:21,177 --> 00:24:25,448 but I don't think that he's sure that it was demolished. 474 00:24:27,017 --> 00:24:30,520 So he took a last-minute flight here 475 00:24:30,522 --> 00:24:32,957 to sit down to talk with me, 476 00:24:32,958 --> 00:24:36,795 and we're gonna settle this once and for all. 477 00:24:36,796 --> 00:24:38,296 Got lost there? 478 00:24:38,297 --> 00:24:39,431 Yeah. Boo. 479 00:24:39,432 --> 00:24:42,534 Many twists and turns in this place. 480 00:24:42,535 --> 00:24:46,573 Geoffrey Fieger, you were Jack Kevorkian's attorney 481 00:24:46,574 --> 00:24:48,442 for a number of years. 482 00:24:48,443 --> 00:24:49,710 - About 10. - 10 years? 483 00:24:49,713 --> 00:24:51,446 That's right. 484 00:24:54,885 --> 00:24:57,953 I need to know if this van is possessed. 485 00:24:57,954 --> 00:25:00,657 While my crew finishes putting it in the museum 486 00:25:00,658 --> 00:25:02,225 for us to investigate later, 487 00:25:02,226 --> 00:25:04,261 I want to hear more about its history 488 00:25:04,262 --> 00:25:08,132 from someone who experienced it firsthand. 489 00:25:08,133 --> 00:25:09,733 Geoffrey, do you believe in ghosts? 490 00:25:09,734 --> 00:25:11,203 Do you believe in the spirit world? 491 00:25:11,204 --> 00:25:13,872 No, but I'd love to have evidence of that. 492 00:25:13,873 --> 00:25:15,241 Everybody would, wouldn't they? 493 00:25:15,242 --> 00:25:17,444 Kevorkian thought this was it -- 494 00:25:17,445 --> 00:25:20,147 You make what you make out of what you have. 495 00:25:20,148 --> 00:25:24,385 Dr. Kevorkian was persecuted by the courts in the 1990s 496 00:25:24,386 --> 00:25:28,156 for assisting with at least 130 suicides. 497 00:25:28,157 --> 00:25:31,860 Geoffrey Fieger repeatedly cleared his name in that time. 498 00:25:31,861 --> 00:25:33,295 You got him out of a lot. 499 00:25:33,296 --> 00:25:34,497 Yeah, until the end, 500 00:25:34,498 --> 00:25:36,667 when he decided her wanted to represent himself. 501 00:25:37,802 --> 00:25:40,972 In 1999, he was charged with, 502 00:25:40,973 --> 00:25:43,007 I believe, second-degree homicide, 503 00:25:43,008 --> 00:25:45,075 sentenced to 20 to 25 years in prison. 504 00:25:45,076 --> 00:25:46,412 He only served eight. 505 00:25:46,413 --> 00:25:48,080 Which was absurd. 506 00:25:48,081 --> 00:25:54,954 He no more killed that patient than hospice kills patients 507 00:25:54,955 --> 00:25:57,292 when they give them unlimited amounts of morphine, 508 00:25:57,293 --> 00:25:59,762 which you can do today because of Kevorkian. 509 00:26:05,603 --> 00:26:08,471 So, this van that I acquired -- 510 00:26:08,472 --> 00:26:10,606 I know that when we were speaking with you, 511 00:26:10,608 --> 00:26:13,109 trying to get you out here to do an interview, 512 00:26:13,110 --> 00:26:16,448 you didn't believe that it was Jack Kevorkian's van. 513 00:26:16,449 --> 00:26:18,483 I heard a little radio show that you did. 514 00:26:18,484 --> 00:26:20,485 I don't think it's his microbus. 515 00:26:20,486 --> 00:26:24,590 We knew that there was a danger that sometime in the future, 516 00:26:24,591 --> 00:26:27,160 someone would want to make a profit off of this van, 517 00:26:27,161 --> 00:26:30,197 so we took it to this junkyard. 518 00:26:30,198 --> 00:26:33,635 We had it crushed into a metal ball. 519 00:26:33,636 --> 00:26:36,972 It was always my belief that that van had been destroyed 520 00:26:36,973 --> 00:26:38,974 as a result of us paying the guy. 521 00:26:38,975 --> 00:26:40,743 But you never saw it destroyed. 522 00:26:40,744 --> 00:26:42,746 I never did, and neither did Kevorkian. 523 00:26:42,747 --> 00:26:44,147 Okay. 524 00:26:44,148 --> 00:26:47,151 I took the steering wheel and the hubcaps, 525 00:26:47,152 --> 00:26:49,019 and I still have those in my office, 526 00:26:49,020 --> 00:26:52,257 so that's why I always was very suspicious 527 00:26:52,258 --> 00:26:55,761 that somebody said they were selling Kevorkian's van. 528 00:26:56,997 --> 00:27:00,199 And your staff subsequently has shown me 529 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:04,371 pretty irrefutable evidence in terms of pictures taken 530 00:27:04,372 --> 00:27:06,708 by the Oakland County Sheriff's Department 531 00:27:06,709 --> 00:27:09,044 when Janet Adkins died 532 00:27:09,045 --> 00:27:15,551 and which are identical to dents and creases in the van, 533 00:27:15,552 --> 00:27:19,689 and I don't think anybody could have contemplated that. 534 00:27:19,690 --> 00:27:23,260 It's just impossible to do. 535 00:27:23,261 --> 00:27:26,031 In history, that van will be valuable 536 00:27:26,032 --> 00:27:29,902 not because of its macabre, but because it's so important 537 00:27:29,903 --> 00:27:32,939 in terms of medical advancement of assisted suicide. 538 00:27:32,940 --> 00:27:34,207 Part of medical history. 539 00:27:34,208 --> 00:27:36,476 That van will be considered important. 540 00:27:36,477 --> 00:27:37,945 In fact, that van -- 541 00:27:37,946 --> 00:27:41,083 you'll find that the Smithsonian would want that van. 542 00:27:45,421 --> 00:27:49,892 130-- That's the number that there is to the public. 543 00:27:49,893 --> 00:27:52,696 There were a lot more -- well over 200. 544 00:27:52,697 --> 00:27:54,097 He was doing them in the van. 545 00:27:54,098 --> 00:27:56,368 Janet Adkins wasn't the only one in the van. 546 00:27:56,369 --> 00:27:58,738 He was doing the assisted suicides in the van? 547 00:27:59,805 --> 00:28:01,586 - There wouldn't be autopsies? - Nope. 548 00:28:01,743 --> 00:28:04,346 I guess he overdosed on pills. 549 00:28:12,323 --> 00:28:14,290 I'm speaking with Geoffrey Fieger, 550 00:28:14,291 --> 00:28:16,594 Jack Kevorkian's former attorney, 551 00:28:16,595 --> 00:28:20,766 about the van Kevorkian used to perform assisted suicides. 552 00:28:20,767 --> 00:28:25,203 130-- That's the number that there is to the public. 553 00:28:25,205 --> 00:28:27,707 There were a lot more -- well over 200. 554 00:28:27,708 --> 00:28:29,342 He was doing them in the van. 555 00:28:29,343 --> 00:28:31,646 Janet Adkins wasn't the only one in the van. 556 00:28:31,647 --> 00:28:34,014 He was doing the assisted suicides in the van? 557 00:28:34,015 --> 00:28:36,984 Yeah. There was one where we were traveling behind -- 558 00:28:36,985 --> 00:28:39,889 Pretty funny story, actually. 559 00:28:39,890 --> 00:28:43,226 The gentleman was quite tall. 560 00:28:44,427 --> 00:28:47,831 He couldn't fit in the van, so his feet were out the window. 561 00:28:47,832 --> 00:28:48,733 My... 562 00:28:48,734 --> 00:28:49,934 And Jack was assisting. 563 00:28:49,935 --> 00:28:51,369 We were following, 564 00:28:51,370 --> 00:28:54,239 and you could see the guy's feet outside the van 565 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,708 while somebody else was driving the van. 566 00:28:56,709 --> 00:28:58,176 My... 567 00:28:58,177 --> 00:28:59,780 That story's never been told. 568 00:29:01,949 --> 00:29:06,187 How many different people do you think died in the van? 569 00:29:06,188 --> 00:29:09,290 The only one you know of is Janet Adkins. 570 00:29:09,291 --> 00:29:11,260 Janet Adkins was the first. 571 00:29:13,362 --> 00:29:16,198 Janet Adkins was the first patient 572 00:29:16,199 --> 00:29:19,101 that Dr. Kevorkian helped euthanize 573 00:29:19,102 --> 00:29:21,205 in the van that I now own. 574 00:29:21,206 --> 00:29:23,574 Could any of these patients' residual energy 575 00:29:23,575 --> 00:29:25,744 still be present in the van? 576 00:29:25,745 --> 00:29:27,412 That's the one that you know of. 577 00:29:27,413 --> 00:29:28,680 I know of others, yeah. 578 00:29:28,681 --> 00:29:30,650 Others? We'll just say "others"? 579 00:29:30,651 --> 00:29:31,685 I know of others. 580 00:29:33,887 --> 00:29:37,891 After Janet Adkins, the police took the van. 581 00:29:37,892 --> 00:29:39,726 I got that van back. 582 00:29:39,727 --> 00:29:43,531 He never again left anyone in that van, 583 00:29:43,532 --> 00:29:45,734 because the police would've taken the van again. 584 00:29:45,735 --> 00:29:48,839 Where would they go? Where would he take these bodies? 585 00:29:50,274 --> 00:29:52,441 There were hotels. 586 00:29:52,442 --> 00:29:55,245 There were various places. 587 00:29:55,246 --> 00:29:58,450 He was living in a home that I owned on a lake. 588 00:29:59,684 --> 00:30:01,954 So Jack Kevorkian was doing assisted suicides 589 00:30:01,955 --> 00:30:03,288 at your house? 590 00:30:03,289 --> 00:30:05,124 Not my house, but a house I own. 591 00:30:05,125 --> 00:30:06,325 Okay. 592 00:30:06,326 --> 00:30:09,429 But, I mean, Kevorkian got smart. 593 00:30:09,430 --> 00:30:13,167 Unless Jack told them that he had assisted, 594 00:30:13,168 --> 00:30:14,968 the police never knew. 595 00:30:14,969 --> 00:30:16,470 These were sick people. 596 00:30:16,472 --> 00:30:19,908 This isn't like they found young, healthy people dead. 597 00:30:19,909 --> 00:30:21,177 You're talking about people 598 00:30:21,178 --> 00:30:22,644 who had been sick for a very long time. 599 00:30:22,645 --> 00:30:24,348 - So, there wouldn't be autopsies? - Nope. 600 00:30:28,853 --> 00:30:33,157 So, when is the last time you saw the van that I now own? 601 00:30:33,158 --> 00:30:35,126 When we took it to the junkyard. 602 00:30:35,127 --> 00:30:37,430 When you took it to the junkyard. 603 00:30:38,898 --> 00:30:41,767 I have the title, too, with Jack's signature on it. 604 00:30:41,769 --> 00:30:44,271 Here's the title that came with it. 605 00:30:44,272 --> 00:30:46,273 Where's his signature? On the back? 606 00:30:46,274 --> 00:30:47,474 On the back. 607 00:30:47,475 --> 00:30:50,445 Yeah, that's his signature, too. 608 00:30:50,446 --> 00:30:54,916 And his address is my home. 609 00:30:54,917 --> 00:30:55,851 Really? 610 00:30:55,852 --> 00:30:57,186 Where he was living. 611 00:30:57,187 --> 00:30:59,222 So this checks out? 612 00:30:59,223 --> 00:31:00,457 - It does. - Okay. 613 00:31:00,460 --> 00:31:02,459 What would it be like 614 00:31:02,460 --> 00:31:05,362 to live in a house once occupied by Kevorkian, 615 00:31:05,363 --> 00:31:08,065 with all of the potential residual energy 616 00:31:08,067 --> 00:31:09,467 still lingering on? 617 00:31:09,468 --> 00:31:12,471 Annie St. John knows the answer to that question 618 00:31:12,473 --> 00:31:14,673 and has come to me seeking help. 619 00:31:14,674 --> 00:31:17,844 So, you live in Jack Kevorkian's old house? 620 00:31:17,845 --> 00:31:20,380 This is something I found out through a few of the people 621 00:31:20,381 --> 00:31:22,283 that had lived there before me, actually. 622 00:31:22,284 --> 00:31:25,887 I hear that there's some things 623 00:31:25,888 --> 00:31:27,789 that have been going on in the house. 624 00:31:27,790 --> 00:31:29,658 There was one event that happened, 625 00:31:29,659 --> 00:31:32,094 where I was in my bedroom 626 00:31:32,095 --> 00:31:34,464 and my bedroom door was closed 627 00:31:34,465 --> 00:31:36,400 and my knob was just twisting and turning, 628 00:31:36,401 --> 00:31:39,369 like something was on the other side of the door. 629 00:31:39,370 --> 00:31:42,440 That was the first thing that really, really scared me. 630 00:31:44,877 --> 00:31:48,248 I also had a neighbor who had lived upstairs, 631 00:31:48,249 --> 00:31:52,219 and he ended up committing suicide. 632 00:31:52,220 --> 00:31:54,788 He was right in the apartment above me, 633 00:31:54,789 --> 00:31:56,390 so I could hear him at night, 634 00:31:56,391 --> 00:31:59,760 and he was a loud guy, so I would hear him often. 635 00:31:59,761 --> 00:32:02,865 During that night, I didn't hear anything up there. 636 00:32:04,901 --> 00:32:06,469 And I did have a weird thought in my head, 637 00:32:06,470 --> 00:32:08,504 like, "Is he all right?" 638 00:32:08,505 --> 00:32:10,508 just 'cause he wasn't being loud. 639 00:32:12,677 --> 00:32:16,448 And I do remember hearing kind of like a... 640 00:32:16,449 --> 00:32:20,052 sort of like a moaning sound or, like, gurgly sound. 641 00:32:20,053 --> 00:32:21,720 I guess he overdosed on pills, 642 00:32:21,722 --> 00:32:24,824 and he was taking it with alcohol. 643 00:32:24,825 --> 00:32:29,363 Do you believe that him committing suicide -- 644 00:32:29,364 --> 00:32:31,700 What do you believe it was caused from? 645 00:32:32,801 --> 00:32:35,336 You know, I don't know. 646 00:32:35,337 --> 00:32:38,441 I don't know if there's something 647 00:32:38,442 --> 00:32:41,211 that was kind of left over from when Jack was there, 648 00:32:41,212 --> 00:32:43,780 maybe something unfinished. 649 00:32:44,716 --> 00:32:46,350 I have no idea. 650 00:32:46,351 --> 00:32:48,252 After hearing these firsthand accounts 651 00:32:48,253 --> 00:32:50,288 of the activity and death 652 00:32:50,289 --> 00:32:53,392 in the very house Kevorkian once called home, 653 00:32:53,393 --> 00:32:57,363 I wonder if similar energy also occupies the van. 654 00:32:57,364 --> 00:33:00,533 Do you believe that maybe spirits in the home 655 00:33:00,534 --> 00:33:07,343 that were patients of Dr. Jack Kevorkian 656 00:33:07,344 --> 00:33:10,813 could have influenced him? 657 00:33:10,814 --> 00:33:14,016 Do you believe that that could be a possibility or no? 658 00:33:14,017 --> 00:33:15,800 Yeah, I do. 100%, I do. 659 00:33:16,807 --> 00:33:19,775 Did lingering spirits with unfinished business 660 00:33:19,776 --> 00:33:21,445 follow Kevorkian home, 661 00:33:21,446 --> 00:33:24,581 tormenting the current residents in their confusion? 662 00:33:24,582 --> 00:33:27,318 Did they attach themselves to that house 663 00:33:27,319 --> 00:33:29,487 and the van that I now own? 664 00:33:29,488 --> 00:33:32,325 The only living person who can confirm 665 00:33:32,326 --> 00:33:36,229 the identity of the van is Geoffrey Fieger. 666 00:33:36,230 --> 00:33:39,733 Construction is going on here. There's some old insulation. 667 00:33:39,734 --> 00:33:42,335 So I got to wear this for my asthma. 668 00:33:42,337 --> 00:33:44,104 Geoffrey Fieger, here's the van. 669 00:33:44,105 --> 00:33:45,474 Yep. 670 00:33:49,212 --> 00:33:51,681 A little worse for wear. 671 00:33:56,922 --> 00:34:00,191 Now, where is the hubcaps? 672 00:34:00,192 --> 00:34:01,727 I'm looking for mine. 673 00:34:01,728 --> 00:34:03,597 There's the one you're missing. 674 00:34:07,033 --> 00:34:08,968 And this steering wheel... 675 00:34:08,969 --> 00:34:10,468 They must have put on. 676 00:34:10,469 --> 00:34:12,372 They've put on. 677 00:34:12,373 --> 00:34:15,244 And this is what Kevorkian used. 678 00:34:17,013 --> 00:34:21,016 So, Geoffrey Fieger, do I own Jack Kevorkian's van? 679 00:34:21,017 --> 00:34:24,053 You own a piece of history. 680 00:34:24,054 --> 00:34:26,289 This is Dr. Kevorkian's van, 681 00:34:26,290 --> 00:34:28,725 where at least three people that we know of 682 00:34:28,726 --> 00:34:30,327 lost their lives. 683 00:34:30,328 --> 00:34:33,397 If Annie's experience in Kevorkian's home 684 00:34:33,398 --> 00:34:34,966 has shown me anything, 685 00:34:34,967 --> 00:34:37,403 it's that there is a very real possibility 686 00:34:37,404 --> 00:34:39,605 that spirits with unfinished business 687 00:34:39,606 --> 00:34:42,774 may be attached to this van that I now own. 688 00:34:42,776 --> 00:34:45,812 With Annie's help, I need to reach out to them. 689 00:34:45,813 --> 00:34:49,484 Okay, right now, we are going to do an experiment. 690 00:34:49,485 --> 00:34:51,787 Annie, you haven't seen the van yet. 691 00:34:51,788 --> 00:34:52,755 Nope. 692 00:34:52,756 --> 00:34:55,324 I want you to go in there alone. 693 00:34:55,325 --> 00:34:56,792 I want you to just see 694 00:34:56,794 --> 00:34:59,395 if you have the same feeling around the van 695 00:34:59,396 --> 00:35:02,666 that you do when you're at Jack Kevorkian's old house. 696 00:35:02,667 --> 00:35:04,635 I'm gonna give you a digital recorder, 697 00:35:04,636 --> 00:35:07,105 and I want you to ask questions to the spirits in there. 698 00:35:07,106 --> 00:35:08,508 - Okay? - All right. 699 00:35:08,509 --> 00:35:10,509 And I want to ask you -- we were just sitting here 700 00:35:10,510 --> 00:35:12,378 just before the camera started rolling. 701 00:35:12,379 --> 00:35:14,547 What did you and I both hear? 702 00:35:14,548 --> 00:35:17,051 We heard someone saying "Hello" -- a female voice. 703 00:35:17,052 --> 00:35:18,653 - In a female voice. - Yeah. 704 00:35:18,656 --> 00:35:20,587 Hey, roll cameras for a second. 705 00:35:20,588 --> 00:35:22,256 **** There's nothing recording 706 00:35:22,258 --> 00:35:23,424 to where we couldn't have captured that. 707 00:35:23,425 --> 00:35:24,758 And she heard it, too. 708 00:35:24,759 --> 00:35:27,229 We could not debunk this voice at all. 709 00:35:27,230 --> 00:35:28,964 Could it be a spirit from the van? 710 00:35:28,965 --> 00:35:30,065 Go and find out. 711 00:35:30,066 --> 00:35:30,801 - Okay. - Okay. 712 00:35:36,708 --> 00:35:38,410 I'm in the room. 713 00:35:45,952 --> 00:35:49,455 We also have an EMF detector inside the van 714 00:35:49,456 --> 00:35:51,992 so that if any spirit manifestations occur, 715 00:35:51,993 --> 00:35:54,595 we'll have scientific proof that there was some type 716 00:35:54,596 --> 00:35:58,066 of electromagnetic field manifesting. 717 00:35:58,067 --> 00:36:00,236 Do you think you recognize me? 718 00:36:02,539 --> 00:36:06,241 If there are any spirits in the room, 719 00:36:06,242 --> 00:36:08,412 give me a sign. 720 00:36:10,648 --> 00:36:12,817 My God. She's going inside of it? 721 00:36:14,887 --> 00:36:16,888 Okay. 722 00:36:16,890 --> 00:36:19,758 We've got no visual on her right now. 723 00:36:19,759 --> 00:36:23,930 If anyone is here, can you give me a sign? 724 00:36:23,931 --> 00:36:25,633 Can you zoom in? 725 00:36:28,069 --> 00:36:30,037 What was that? 726 00:36:30,038 --> 00:36:31,206 - Did you hear that? - Like a moan? 727 00:36:31,209 --> 00:36:32,708 - Yeah! - Yeah. 728 00:36:32,711 --> 00:36:36,511 Hey, Annie, did you just hear a moan or something? 729 00:36:36,512 --> 00:36:38,714 I definitely heard a moan. 730 00:36:38,715 --> 00:36:40,283 - She heard it. - She heard it. 731 00:36:40,286 --> 00:36:41,952 So, now she just gave confirmation 732 00:36:41,953 --> 00:36:44,821 that she heard the same female moan that we did. 733 00:36:44,822 --> 00:36:48,025 Not only do we all hear this unexplained female moan 734 00:36:48,026 --> 00:36:50,729 with our own ears, but at the same exact time, 735 00:36:50,730 --> 00:36:53,665 our EMF detector receives a large spike, 736 00:36:53,666 --> 00:36:56,034 scientifically documenting a change 737 00:36:56,035 --> 00:36:59,772 in the electromagnetic energy inside the death van. 738 00:36:59,773 --> 00:37:01,509 Can you zoom in? 739 00:37:08,318 --> 00:37:09,551 What was that? 740 00:37:09,552 --> 00:37:11,688 How are you feeling right now? 741 00:37:12,890 --> 00:37:15,425 Um... very scared. 742 00:37:15,426 --> 00:37:18,496 I'm a little -- I definitely felt something. 743 00:37:18,497 --> 00:37:21,098 Can you try to get in the back of the van? 744 00:37:21,099 --> 00:37:23,202 Um... we're gonna do it. 745 00:37:26,339 --> 00:37:28,274 Are you stuck? 746 00:37:28,275 --> 00:37:31,044 Do you feel stuck where you are? 747 00:37:32,446 --> 00:37:33,481 - Did you hear that? - Definitely. - Yeah. 748 00:37:33,484 --> 00:37:35,382 It was a slam or something. 749 00:37:35,383 --> 00:37:36,716 Okay, I don't know if you guys could hear that, 750 00:37:36,717 --> 00:37:38,353 but I definitely just heard, like, a... 751 00:37:39,688 --> 00:37:41,155 We just heard a slamming noise. 752 00:37:41,156 --> 00:37:42,525 Yes, I heard that. 753 00:37:42,526 --> 00:37:44,293 Did that come from inside the room with you? 754 00:37:44,294 --> 00:37:47,497 It may have came from, like, sort of the back of the room. 755 00:37:47,498 --> 00:37:49,367 Do you feel stuck where you are? 756 00:37:53,171 --> 00:37:54,739 - Did you hear that? - Definitely. - Yeah. 757 00:37:54,742 --> 00:37:58,510 - It sounded like a door on it shut or something. - Yeah. 758 00:37:58,513 --> 00:38:00,947 Can you go look at the backside of the van? 759 00:38:03,117 --> 00:38:04,584 That's fine. 760 00:38:04,585 --> 00:38:07,053 This girl came here for just a simple interview. 761 00:38:07,054 --> 00:38:08,422 I don't think she had any idea 762 00:38:08,423 --> 00:38:10,526 we were gonna put her inside the Deathmobile. 763 00:38:10,992 --> 00:38:13,860 So, because we heard this female moan audibly 764 00:38:13,861 --> 00:38:15,128 and we heard this bang 765 00:38:15,129 --> 00:38:17,231 that apparently came from this room, 766 00:38:17,232 --> 00:38:20,701 I decided to send Aaron in there to do a spirit-box session 767 00:38:20,702 --> 00:38:23,805 so we could try to hear these spirits live in the moment. 768 00:38:25,241 --> 00:38:29,145 Can you tell us whose van this belongs to? 769 00:38:32,817 --> 00:38:35,285 Are you happy that this van still exists 770 00:38:35,286 --> 00:38:37,089 and are you attached to it? 771 00:38:40,259 --> 00:38:42,094 Not getting any responses. 772 00:38:42,095 --> 00:38:43,829 Let's see if Annie can get a response. 773 00:38:43,830 --> 00:38:45,466 Do you recognize me? 774 00:38:49,203 --> 00:38:50,104 "Bridget." 775 00:38:50,105 --> 00:38:51,705 Whoa. 776 00:38:51,706 --> 00:38:55,442 Is this spirit mistaking Annie for someone named Bridget, 777 00:38:55,443 --> 00:38:57,879 or are they saying that their name is Bridget? 778 00:38:57,881 --> 00:38:59,749 Do you recognize me? 779 00:39:05,255 --> 00:39:06,257 "Bridget." 780 00:39:07,992 --> 00:39:10,329 Do you recognize me? 781 00:39:16,570 --> 00:39:18,805 It's a female response. 782 00:39:21,576 --> 00:39:23,577 "What do you mean?" 783 00:39:23,578 --> 00:39:27,882 She lives in a place where the doctor used to live. 784 00:39:27,883 --> 00:39:30,485 Does that make sense at all? 785 00:39:31,621 --> 00:39:32,756 - Whoa! - Whoa! 786 00:39:32,759 --> 00:39:34,623 That's that same female three times. 787 00:39:34,624 --> 00:39:38,128 And it sounds like almost the same tone of the moan. 788 00:39:38,129 --> 00:39:42,266 She lives in a place where the doctor used to live. 789 00:39:42,267 --> 00:39:44,169 Does that make sense at all? 790 00:39:47,773 --> 00:39:48,975 - Whoa! - Whoa! 791 00:39:50,210 --> 00:39:51,378 I got chills, man. 792 00:39:51,379 --> 00:39:52,545 Yeah, I'm, like... 793 00:39:52,546 --> 00:39:54,013 She's definitely in this room. 794 00:39:54,014 --> 00:39:55,550 - You okay? - Yeah. 795 00:39:55,553 --> 00:39:56,850 What? 796 00:39:56,851 --> 00:39:59,353 I don't know. I'm just... 797 00:39:59,354 --> 00:40:01,323 - Spooked? - Yeah. 798 00:40:01,326 --> 00:40:03,625 With Annie starting to feel affected, 799 00:40:03,626 --> 00:40:05,394 I decide to end the investigation, 800 00:40:05,395 --> 00:40:06,627 as she and Aaron 801 00:40:06,628 --> 00:40:09,497 have already established intelligent communication, 802 00:40:09,499 --> 00:40:13,003 validating to us that there's at least one spirit 803 00:40:13,004 --> 00:40:16,039 still attached to Dr. Kevorkian's death van. 804 00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:19,143 We received confirmation of the van's origin 805 00:40:19,144 --> 00:40:22,448 from the only living person who could validate its identity. 806 00:40:22,449 --> 00:40:26,218 Geoffrey Fieger, do I own Jack Kevorkian's van? 807 00:40:26,219 --> 00:40:29,155 You own a piece of history. 808 00:40:29,156 --> 00:40:31,658 And now we've received an intelligent response 809 00:40:31,659 --> 00:40:33,094 from a spirit 810 00:40:33,095 --> 00:40:35,330 trying to communicate with Annie St. John... 811 00:40:36,298 --> 00:40:37,599 Whoa! 812 00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:41,303 ...current resident of Kevorkian's former home. 813 00:40:41,304 --> 00:40:43,940 This is just the beginning of a long process 814 00:40:43,941 --> 00:40:46,242 with the newest part of my collection. 815 00:40:46,243 --> 00:40:48,378 As people come to visit the museum, 816 00:40:48,379 --> 00:40:51,950 I'm curious to see how their energy will interact 817 00:40:51,951 --> 00:40:53,920 with such an iconic piece of history. 61208

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