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There was a massacre.
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That's very abnormal.
That's great to hear.
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17 people have been killed.
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This will literally
wake up the dead.
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One of us is going to die.
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My life has become
a living hell.
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This is awesome.
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It's alive!
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Since I was a young boy,
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I've been collecting
haunted artifacts,
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drawn to the dark and mysterious
energy they carry.
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The Manson murders
will go down as
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one the most heinous crimes
of all time.
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Through my career
as a paranormal investigator,
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I've been able
to build my collection.
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- Now I'm building a museum...
- The Conjure Chest
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is one of the deadliest
haunted artifacts
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- in existence.
- Robert the Doll
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has affected
thousands of people.
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...And providing a place
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for people
to bring their haunted items
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and hear their stories.
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We aid people
into coming into the world.
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Why can't we aid them
in exiting the world?
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These are my deadly possessions.
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Since opening the museum,
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more people are coming in
from all over the world
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with items that have been
creating chaos in their lives,
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too dangerous to throw away.
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So they bring them here
for help.
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- Hello.
- Hi.
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- How are you doing, man?
- Hey, how are you?
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- What's your name?
- Eric.
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What's going on?
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I bought this last rites box
at a auction.
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I took it home.
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And two days later,
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my life has become
a living hell with it.
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When you got it back home,
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how did you start connecting
two and two together
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that this item is
the source of bad things
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that started
happening in your life?
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Everything was fine.
I brought this home.
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Two days later, I was asleep
in the middle of the night.
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I was awoken.
I heard something dra--
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It sounded like something
was dragging across the floor.
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- In your house?
- Yes, sir.
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I went upstairs, looked around,
didn't see anything.
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Nothing was out of the ordinary.
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Nothing had been moved.
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I shrugged it off,
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turned the light off,
went back to bed.
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- Was this upstairs?
- Yes, sir.
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- It was?
- It was.
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Later that night,
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I heard something that sounded
like somebody was talking.
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Did it ever climax
into something more severe?
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A shadow.
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Shadow figure?
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It was a humanoid-type figure.
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As I came up the stairs,
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I immediately... I mean,
just froze me in my tracks.
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I didn't know what it was.
I couldn't explain it.
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And all this stuff happened
how long after you got this?
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- Two days.
- Two days?
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- Two days.
- Okay.
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So why are you bringing
this here right now?
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Because I want to get rid of it.
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I don't want it in my house.
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I can't sleep.
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Are you okay
if we open it right now
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just so I can inspect it?
Yes.
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Mom, do you want to open it?
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- Sure.
- Just slowly.
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- It's lovely.
- Wow. Holy cow.
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Do you know any background
about this, Mom?
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Like you mentioned,
it's a last rites box, correct?
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That's what was explained to me.
Okay.
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What is a last rites box?
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When someone's dying,
they will bring it in.
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And the priest will come in.
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And they'll put the candles in
and at their bedside.
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It's more like a portable altar
coming over to the bedside.
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Well, it's intriguing enough
that I want to observe it,
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you know?
- I appreciate it.
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Okay, transferring it
over to us,
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I think that's
it was a smart thing.
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So thank you very much.
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- Thank you.
- Yeah, man.
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I'm Trevor Jones.
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I'm Director
of Historical Resources
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at the Kentucky Historical
Society
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here in Frankfort, Kentucky.
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This is home
of the Conjure Chest,
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allegedly one of the most
deadly haunted artifacts
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in the world.
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This is a real Kentucky story.
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These were really Kentuckians.
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We heard about Zak's museum.
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And we're interested
in taking this chest
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out to Las Vegas
to learn what he can tell us
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about the paranormal aspects
of this story
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and maybe provide some answers
about this iconic item.
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Welcome.
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A chest of drawers.
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Is this the Conjure Chest?
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This is the Conjure Chest.
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Wow.
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Holy cow. Let me --
let me absorb this for a moment.
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I know a little bit
about this chest.
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So I'm hoping that you can
fill me in on the history
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and why it does have
the reputation
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as being one of the most
deadliest objects in the world.
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I'll tell you the story.
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There was a slave owner
named Jacob Cooley.
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He had a slave who he
commissioned to make this chest
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between 1830 and 1840
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for the occasion
of his son's birth.
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Cooley was a cruel man.
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And he wasn't happy with
the construction of this piece.
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And he beat the slave...
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...to death.
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And in revenge,
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the rest of the slaves
on his plantation
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put a curse on the chest
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so that the family
would be forever cursed.
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This goes back pre-Civil War
in the 1800s?
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This is probably made
about between 1830 and 1840.
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Even without a curse,
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this is a very nice piece
of Kentucky...
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- Even without a curse?
- Even without a curse,
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This is a very nice piece
of Kentu...
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It feel like
I'm on "Antiques Roadshow."
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- ...Kentucky-made furniture.
- I'm on the evil version of...
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- Yeah!
- ...Of "Antiques Roadshow" here.
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So even though
he kills this slave,
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beats him to death
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just because
he didn't like this,
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he still displayed the chest
in his house?
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Yes.
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The chest stayed in the house.
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And the son's
newborn baby clothes
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were put inside it.
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And the son perished.
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How long after he was born?
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That's unclear from the story.
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But fairly shortly,
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it sounds like,
in the story, yeah.
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So from that death,
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17 people have either been
killed, seriously injured...
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...because of this chest?
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Okay.
So this chest
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has been at your museum
for how long?
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So it was given to us
by the family in 1976.
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In 1976?
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It came into the museum
at that time. Okay.
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All right, right now,
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we're gonna be bringing out
a member of the family.
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it was her mother
that donated the chest
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to the historical museum.
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So I felt it was right
to cover the chest
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before she comes out
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just because of the curse
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that this chest carried
through her family.
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So let's bring her out.
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Don't be afraid.
Come on in.
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Please watch your step there.
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- I will.
- Hi, how are you?
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- Hi.
- Please sit down.
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Beverly, we recovered the chest.
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It's there?
God.
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Okay. Yeah.
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- Is that okay?
- Yeah.
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When is the last time
you saw -- seen the chest?
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I saw it in the mid-'70s.
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Do you believe that this chest
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killed members of your family?
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Yes.
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I was always afraid of it.
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I mean, before I understood
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exactly what the story was,
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I was afraid of it as a child
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because I knew
that it was associated
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with death in my family.
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So your family
told you this as a child?
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- Yes, my mother, yeah.
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- She did?
- Yeah.
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Why did she keep it
next to your room,
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down the hall?
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I think her reasons
were complex.
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It's certainly historical.
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It goes back to sometime
in the early 1800s.
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And someone she loved died
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in order to take off
the conjure.
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I don't think she wanted
to discard that piece of it,
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Because of the loved one's
sacrifice, their life...
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Yes, exactly. She did.
...To reverse the curse?
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Yes. And also,
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I don't think
she would turn it loose.
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I mean, imagine putting it out
on the curb,
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knowing that someone
might put items in it
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and then die.
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She felt that it needed
to be preserved
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but to be kept away
from innocent people
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in a place
that would make it very clear
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that it wasn't to be used.
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Sally said,
"One of us is going to die."
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The Conjure Chest
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is one of the most deadly
objects in the world.
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Beverly Kienzle,
a Harvard professor,
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is giving me intimate details
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about her family's history
with this cursed antique.
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This person that lost her life
as a sacrifice
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trying to reverse
the curse of this chest,
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did that person participate
in the ritual?
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Yes, she did it.
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That would be Sally
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who worked for the family
and my mother and my aunt.
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And Sally's
holding tight to them,
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as she always did.
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After 16 victims,
my grandmother said,
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"Sally, do you know
how to take off a conjure?"
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And she said,
"Why, yes, I do."
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And so she went
through the instructions.
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The first thing was,
they needed an owl.
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But the owl
had to be brought by a friend.
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And then they needed
leaves from a willow tree.
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But again, the willow tree
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had to have been planted
by a friend.
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There had to be a leaf
for every victim.
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And then they were boiled.
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And that liquid
was poured into a jug.
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And the jug was planted
underneath a flowering tree
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with the handle pointed
to the east... Jeez.
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...Because the east
is hope in Christianity.
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It's resurrection.
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So they planted the jug.
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And then Sally
said to my grandmother,
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"One of us is going to die
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when the leaves fall off
the flowering lilac."
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In October 1946,
Sally suddenly died,
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and the Conjure Chest
claimed its 17th victim.
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What you can't do
is put the possession
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of anyone who's living
inside the chest.
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So you wouldn't put
your jacket in... No.
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...This chest?
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No. I would expect to be dead
if I did.
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I mean, not dead on the spot.
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Usually I'm really, really,
really freaked out
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by dolls and stuff.
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But a piece of furniture --
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like, this is
taking the cake right now.
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If you're gonna put this in
a real historical perspective,
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whether or not you believe the
curse is real or not... Right.
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This piece comes out of a time
when White Kentuckians
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were very, very afraid
of their slaves
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00:11:40,434 --> 00:11:42,567
because they could
rise up against them.
258
00:11:42,569 --> 00:11:44,869
You're oppressing these people.
259
00:11:44,871 --> 00:11:47,939
So this fear of a voodoo curse
or a hoodoo curse... Yeah.
260
00:11:47,941 --> 00:11:49,874
...or whatever
you want to call it,
261
00:11:49,876 --> 00:11:51,176
is a really standard fear
262
00:11:51,178 --> 00:11:53,278
that 19th century
white Americans have
263
00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:55,714
of the power
of African American slaves.
264
00:11:55,716 --> 00:11:58,016
As I'm listening to Trevor talk,
265
00:11:58,018 --> 00:11:59,317
I can't help thinking
266
00:11:59,319 --> 00:12:01,486
that I should put him
on the spot
267
00:12:01,488 --> 00:12:04,422
and test his own fear
of this object.
268
00:12:04,424 --> 00:12:06,491
If this chest has truly killed
269
00:12:06,493 --> 00:12:08,960
as many people
as he and Beverly say,
270
00:12:08,962 --> 00:12:12,130
then let's see how he'll react.
271
00:12:12,132 --> 00:12:16,968
Would you take your jacket off,
put it in this chest?
272
00:12:16,970 --> 00:12:18,670
No.
273
00:12:18,672 --> 00:12:20,405
You wouldn't?
274
00:12:20,407 --> 00:12:21,406
No.
275
00:12:23,243 --> 00:12:24,843
This is typically the moment
276
00:12:24,845 --> 00:12:27,045
where I ask you permission
to perform
277
00:12:27,047 --> 00:12:29,848
some type of investigation
or experiment on here.
278
00:12:29,850 --> 00:12:33,985
But for once,
I can't say anything.
279
00:12:33,987 --> 00:12:35,854
Knowing the family's testimony
280
00:12:35,856 --> 00:12:38,156
for the things that happened,
281
00:12:38,158 --> 00:12:40,258
it's just too real, you know?
282
00:12:40,260 --> 00:12:41,626
It's just too real.
283
00:12:42,462 --> 00:12:47,232
I was especially increasingly,
shall we say, freaked out
284
00:12:47,234 --> 00:12:53,037
when I found the accounts
of the deaths of three people
285
00:12:53,039 --> 00:12:55,073
that matched exactly
what my grandmother said.
286
00:12:55,075 --> 00:12:58,009
And if I could tell you
one more thing.
287
00:12:58,011 --> 00:13:01,479
There were things
that my father said.
288
00:13:01,481 --> 00:13:04,115
I can remember
this conversation,
289
00:13:04,117 --> 00:13:10,388
him talking about my mother,
saying over the chest,
290
00:13:10,390 --> 00:13:13,391
"I see them
coming out of there."
291
00:13:14,194 --> 00:13:17,195
- The deceased family members?
- Yes!
292
00:13:17,197 --> 00:13:19,264
- Their spirits?
- Yes!
293
00:13:19,266 --> 00:13:21,800
- Jeez.
- I know.
294
00:13:21,802 --> 00:13:25,370
So it's as if
the curse of the chest
295
00:13:25,372 --> 00:13:28,139
has trapped them to the chest.
296
00:13:28,141 --> 00:13:29,340
Yeah.
297
00:13:29,342 --> 00:13:31,442
Do you believe that when Sally,
298
00:13:31,444 --> 00:13:33,845
the conjurer
that reversed the curse,
299
00:13:33,847 --> 00:13:35,880
when she sacrificed her life,
300
00:13:35,882 --> 00:13:38,516
the spirits of your ancestors,
301
00:13:38,518 --> 00:13:41,619
your family members, were free?
302
00:13:41,621 --> 00:13:44,055
That's what
she wanted to happen.
303
00:13:44,057 --> 00:13:46,157
Do you want to see it?
304
00:13:47,861 --> 00:13:49,093
I'll look at it,
305
00:13:49,095 --> 00:13:51,062
but I won't open the drawer
myself.
306
00:13:51,064 --> 00:13:52,630
Is that okay?
307
00:13:52,632 --> 00:13:57,035
Yeah, let me start with
something that I know I will do.
308
00:13:57,037 --> 00:13:58,236
Is that -- that's okay?
309
00:13:58,238 --> 00:13:59,537
- You sure?
- Sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
310
00:13:59,539 --> 00:14:01,172
Okay.
311
00:14:01,741 --> 00:14:04,409
God, there it is.
312
00:14:04,411 --> 00:14:06,344
Yes.
313
00:14:06,346 --> 00:14:08,046
My.
314
00:14:08,048 --> 00:14:13,218
I remember it well.
315
00:14:13,220 --> 00:14:16,221
So what my mother would do
316
00:14:16,223 --> 00:14:19,791
would be
to turn those handles...
317
00:14:19,793 --> 00:14:22,327
- Beverly, don't touch it.
- No, I won't.
318
00:14:22,329 --> 00:14:24,562
I'm just gonna gesture
to the inside.
319
00:14:24,564 --> 00:14:28,199
I would discourage anybody
from opening it.
320
00:14:28,201 --> 00:14:30,335
Let's get --
can we get Trevor back?
321
00:14:30,337 --> 00:14:32,570
Theodore, can you get Trevor,
please?
322
00:14:35,442 --> 00:14:40,278
- Trevor, we neither of us want
to open the drawer. - Okay.
323
00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:43,514
Okay, so can you please
open the drawer? Sure.
324
00:14:44,751 --> 00:14:47,886
As the drawers opened,
the owl feathers
325
00:14:47,888 --> 00:14:51,823
that are part of the ritual
that killed Sally are visible.
326
00:14:51,825 --> 00:14:53,992
Trevor, if you could please
step aside.
327
00:14:53,994 --> 00:14:56,694
Beverly, please go have a look.
328
00:14:56,696 --> 00:14:59,564
Yeah, that's where it was.
329
00:14:59,566 --> 00:15:01,799
This is my mother's writing
here.
330
00:15:01,801 --> 00:15:06,704
This is, I think,
my grandmother's writing.
331
00:15:06,706 --> 00:15:09,674
That would hold up from your
mother's letter to us in 1976.
332
00:15:09,676 --> 00:15:10,808
- Is that what she said?
- Yes.
333
00:15:10,810 --> 00:15:12,510
How do you feel,
334
00:15:12,512 --> 00:15:14,178
looking and reading the writing
335
00:15:14,180 --> 00:15:16,114
of your grandmother
and mother and --
336
00:15:16,116 --> 00:15:17,282
Well, it's eerie.
337
00:15:17,284 --> 00:15:19,651
Do you feel anything
with the drawer open?
338
00:15:19,653 --> 00:15:21,953
Well, it --
it's a little creepy, yeah.
339
00:15:21,955 --> 00:15:23,254
- Do you feel wind?
- Wind?
340
00:15:23,256 --> 00:15:24,656
- It got cold in here.
- Yeah.
341
00:15:24,658 --> 00:15:27,258
- Do you feel that coldness?
- I do, yeah.
342
00:15:27,260 --> 00:15:28,426
It's moving.
343
00:15:28,428 --> 00:15:30,561
- The air is, like --
- I do feel cold air.
344
00:15:30,563 --> 00:15:32,230
I felt, like, wind.
345
00:15:32,232 --> 00:15:36,501
Why don't you please close the drawer?
Okay. Happy to do so.
346
00:15:36,503 --> 00:15:38,269
- Um, Beverly, um...
- Yes?
347
00:15:38,271 --> 00:15:41,472
- Thank you for coming out here.
- You're welcome.
348
00:15:41,474 --> 00:15:44,575
I have one more question...
349
00:15:44,577 --> 00:15:47,045
One more request, if you will.
350
00:15:47,047 --> 00:15:50,648
Um, you gave me a detail
about all these spirits
351
00:15:50,650 --> 00:15:53,184
being seen coming up out of it.
352
00:15:53,186 --> 00:15:55,720
Would we be able to do, like,
353
00:15:55,722 --> 00:15:59,057
a mini investigation
with the chest,
354
00:15:59,059 --> 00:16:02,126
do some measurements of
electromagnetic fields?
355
00:16:02,128 --> 00:16:04,462
If you even wanted
to be a part of it,
356
00:16:04,464 --> 00:16:07,398
I'd like you to be a part of it,
if you would like.
357
00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:09,033
Well, I have to think about it
for a minute.
358
00:16:09,035 --> 00:16:10,001
Okay.
Yeah.
359
00:16:10,704 --> 00:16:13,938
We're testing for
electromagnetic energy.
360
00:16:13,940 --> 00:16:15,273
Whoa.
361
00:16:15,275 --> 00:16:17,041
- Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa!
- No!
362
00:16:31,424 --> 00:16:33,624
The Conjure Chest is responsible
363
00:16:33,626 --> 00:16:36,327
for killing several
of Beverly's family members
364
00:16:36,329 --> 00:16:39,330
and someone very close
to the family.
365
00:16:39,332 --> 00:16:42,767
Today is the first time
she has seen the deadly antique
366
00:16:42,769 --> 00:16:44,902
in over 40 years.
367
00:16:44,904 --> 00:16:46,537
Due to its horrific history,
368
00:16:46,539 --> 00:16:51,109
she's hesitant to participate
in an investigation.
369
00:16:51,111 --> 00:16:54,145
- All right, Beverly. You decided
to participate. - I did.
370
00:16:54,147 --> 00:16:55,279
- No hesitation?
- No.
371
00:16:55,281 --> 00:16:56,314
- Okay, good.
- No.
372
00:16:56,316 --> 00:16:57,648
It's not every day
373
00:16:57,650 --> 00:16:59,984
that we have the Conjure Chest here.
Right.
374
00:16:59,986 --> 00:17:02,520
So we just want to take
advantage of this situation
375
00:17:02,522 --> 00:17:06,190
and see if there is
any energy around it,
376
00:17:06,192 --> 00:17:10,528
see if the spirit of Sally
is trapped within it --
377
00:17:10,530 --> 00:17:12,230
which I really hope she's not --
378
00:17:12,232 --> 00:17:16,768
or any spirits of your
past family members.
379
00:17:16,770 --> 00:17:19,704
I ask Aaron and Jay to
assist with the investigation.
380
00:17:19,706 --> 00:17:21,005
To do this investigation,
381
00:17:21,007 --> 00:17:23,174
I think we should open
the top drawer up.
382
00:17:23,176 --> 00:17:25,510
Jay, you'll open it.
383
00:17:25,512 --> 00:17:27,078
- Why not?
- Go ahead, Jay.
384
00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:28,479
There's a lot of reasons
why not.
385
00:17:29,716 --> 00:17:31,215
Why don't you open
the top drawer?
386
00:17:31,217 --> 00:17:32,483
All right.
And let's begin.
387
00:17:32,485 --> 00:17:34,318
Okay.
388
00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:35,353
That's good.
389
00:17:39,025 --> 00:17:41,793
Real alpha there.
390
00:17:45,732 --> 00:17:49,901
Okay, I need a camera over here
to see the screen of this.
391
00:17:49,903 --> 00:17:51,803
What's it doing?
392
00:17:51,805 --> 00:17:54,806
We're testing
for electromagnetic energy.
393
00:17:54,808 --> 00:17:57,675
High, unexplained spikes
of electromagnetic energy
394
00:17:57,677 --> 00:18:01,512
could indicate
the presence of spirits.
395
00:18:01,514 --> 00:18:02,580
On the feathers?
396
00:18:02,582 --> 00:18:04,749
No. Over towards this side
specifically.
397
00:18:04,751 --> 00:18:05,583
Whoa.
398
00:18:05,585 --> 00:18:07,151
Ooh.
399
00:18:07,153 --> 00:18:08,853
But the readings are normal
400
00:18:08,855 --> 00:18:10,721
until I move the device
near Beverly.
401
00:18:10,723 --> 00:18:12,290
Whoa.
402
00:18:12,292 --> 00:18:14,392
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
No!
403
00:18:16,196 --> 00:18:17,762
My goodness.
404
00:18:19,732 --> 00:18:21,799
That's very abnormal.
405
00:18:21,801 --> 00:18:23,401
That's great to hear.
406
00:18:23,403 --> 00:18:25,036
I mean...
407
00:18:25,038 --> 00:18:27,672
That shouldn't be doing that.
408
00:18:27,674 --> 00:18:30,842
There's a very high level
of electromagnetic energy
409
00:18:30,844 --> 00:18:31,943
around Beverly.
410
00:18:31,945 --> 00:18:34,412
The device should not be
spiking like this.
411
00:18:34,414 --> 00:18:37,215
I now ask her to communicate
with the spirit
412
00:18:37,217 --> 00:18:39,684
to find out if this energy
will react.
413
00:18:39,686 --> 00:18:42,019
Beverly, can you ask if
there is something here?
414
00:18:42,021 --> 00:18:43,754
Is there a spirit here?
415
00:18:46,159 --> 00:18:49,127
This energy,
which we believe is a spirit,
416
00:18:49,129 --> 00:18:52,230
is directly responding
to Beverly's questions.
417
00:18:52,232 --> 00:18:54,432
Who is it?
418
00:18:54,434 --> 00:18:58,903
Eliza?
419
00:18:58,905 --> 00:19:01,339
Say a different name.
Sally?
420
00:19:05,345 --> 00:19:07,245
It really reacted.
Say the other one before.
421
00:19:07,247 --> 00:19:08,513
Eliza?
422
00:19:10,116 --> 00:19:12,250
- Yeah.
- Wow.
423
00:19:12,252 --> 00:19:13,885
This is reacting every time
you say, "Eliza."
424
00:19:13,887 --> 00:19:14,886
Who's Eliza?
425
00:19:14,888 --> 00:19:21,692
Eliza was my grandmother's
grandmother.
426
00:19:21,694 --> 00:19:25,596
And there were six people
427
00:19:25,598 --> 00:19:30,501
whose clothes went in the chest
while it was in her possession
428
00:19:30,503 --> 00:19:33,371
who died, including herself.
429
00:19:33,373 --> 00:19:34,605
She took her own life.
430
00:19:35,542 --> 00:19:37,742
I now move the device over Jay,
431
00:19:37,744 --> 00:19:39,610
and the readings vanish.
432
00:19:40,346 --> 00:19:41,612
Beverly, look at this.
433
00:19:41,614 --> 00:19:44,715
Do you see how around Jay,
there's no spikes?
434
00:19:44,717 --> 00:19:46,184
Do you see that?
I do.
435
00:19:46,186 --> 00:19:47,518
Mike, you getting that?
436
00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:48,753
That's baseline.
437
00:19:48,755 --> 00:19:50,154
Now, watch what happens
when I go around you.
438
00:19:53,459 --> 00:19:54,692
- Whoa-ho.
- Whoa-ho.
439
00:19:54,694 --> 00:19:55,893
Well, I hope this doesn't mean
440
00:19:55,895 --> 00:19:57,662
that Eliza will be talking
to me tonight.
441
00:19:57,664 --> 00:19:59,964
Look at that.
That's pegged.
442
00:19:59,966 --> 00:20:03,501
I will now try to collect
visual evidence of this spirit
443
00:20:03,503 --> 00:20:06,103
that is interacting
with Beverly.
444
00:20:06,105 --> 00:20:07,939
What I'd like to do now is --
445
00:20:07,941 --> 00:20:10,007
I think I should
get away from it.
446
00:20:10,009 --> 00:20:11,542
I don't want to invoke fear.
447
00:20:11,544 --> 00:20:13,311
I don't want to invoke
more fear.
448
00:20:13,313 --> 00:20:17,148
But the drawer is open.
Yeah.
449
00:20:17,150 --> 00:20:18,816
We have done some things
450
00:20:18,818 --> 00:20:21,452
to try to wake it up,
if you will.
451
00:20:21,454 --> 00:20:22,787
Can you stand near it?
452
00:20:22,789 --> 00:20:25,156
And I just want to take some
pictures of you by yourself
453
00:20:25,158 --> 00:20:26,724
With the full-spectrum camera.
454
00:20:26,726 --> 00:20:28,059
- Sure.
- Jay, come here.
455
00:20:28,061 --> 00:20:30,161
Can you maybe read
some of the writing
456
00:20:30,163 --> 00:20:32,530
that your grandmother
and your mother wrote?
457
00:20:32,532 --> 00:20:35,166
And we're gonna take some photos
with the full spectrum.
458
00:20:35,168 --> 00:20:43,608
"Owl's feathers
to scare away spirits,
459
00:20:43,610 --> 00:20:47,111
so let's hope
they're still doing it.
460
00:20:47,113 --> 00:20:50,848
This is going to
the Kentucky Historical Society
461
00:20:50,850 --> 00:20:56,787
at the old capitol building
in Frankfort, Kentucky."
462
00:20:56,789 --> 00:20:58,122
Whoa, what was that?
463
00:20:58,124 --> 00:21:02,093
As Jay rapidly snaps
full-spectrum photos,
464
00:21:02,095 --> 00:21:05,196
I notice a strange anomaly
on the far right-hand side.
465
00:21:05,198 --> 00:21:07,965
There's you, you, you...
466
00:21:07,967 --> 00:21:10,468
What's the yellow?
We don't know.
467
00:21:10,470 --> 00:21:12,870
This oddly shaped anomaly
468
00:21:12,872 --> 00:21:15,439
hovers over
Beverly's right shoulder.
469
00:21:15,441 --> 00:21:18,209
And it only appears
in one of the photos.
470
00:21:18,211 --> 00:21:20,011
What was that?
471
00:21:20,013 --> 00:21:21,712
Yeah, right?
What was that?
472
00:21:21,714 --> 00:21:23,814
It was this...
That's where this thing is.
473
00:21:23,816 --> 00:21:25,850
As we are viewing
an unexplainable image
474
00:21:25,852 --> 00:21:27,652
captured on
the full-spectrum camera,
475
00:21:27,654 --> 00:21:31,188
we all hear a tapping sound
from the metal candelabra
476
00:21:31,190 --> 00:21:33,624
right where this unexplained
light anomaly manifested.
477
00:21:34,360 --> 00:21:35,493
What was that?
478
00:21:35,495 --> 00:21:36,994
Yeah, right?
479
00:21:36,996 --> 00:21:38,195
What was that?
480
00:21:38,197 --> 00:21:39,196
Yeah, right?
481
00:21:39,198 --> 00:21:40,698
Is there a connection
482
00:21:40,700 --> 00:21:42,833
between the anomaly
we just captured
483
00:21:42,835 --> 00:21:46,337
and the unexplainable sound that
we all heard with our own ears?
484
00:21:46,339 --> 00:21:48,806
It sounded like that
was being tapped. Right.
485
00:21:48,808 --> 00:21:52,410
Yeah.
I heard that tap.
486
00:21:52,412 --> 00:21:53,911
Is this what you heard?
487
00:21:55,081 --> 00:21:57,615
Something like that.
488
00:21:57,617 --> 00:21:59,717
That would have been
right over your left shoulder.
489
00:21:59,719 --> 00:22:01,686
Where's the candles?
490
00:22:01,688 --> 00:22:03,254
Was it --
491
00:22:03,256 --> 00:22:04,955
You're in front of
the candle, actually.
492
00:22:04,957 --> 00:22:08,559
So just watch over right
here, right beneath the six.
493
00:22:08,561 --> 00:22:10,795
Watch there. You see,
there's nothing there.
494
00:22:10,797 --> 00:22:13,698
There's nothing there,
nothing there,
495
00:22:13,700 --> 00:22:15,766
And then something shows up
right there.
496
00:22:15,768 --> 00:22:16,867
See that?
497
00:22:16,869 --> 00:22:21,639
Good lord.
498
00:22:21,641 --> 00:22:25,109
What?
499
00:22:26,479 --> 00:22:28,079
It looks like...
500
00:22:28,081 --> 00:22:30,748
- It -- it looks...
- It does look like an owl!
501
00:22:33,386 --> 00:22:35,786
It has the body
roundness, and that's the head.
502
00:22:35,788 --> 00:22:37,988
It looks like an owl.
It looks like an owl.
503
00:22:37,990 --> 00:22:39,557
Jeez.
Dude, I got chills.
504
00:22:41,594 --> 00:22:42,893
- Yeah.
- It does.
505
00:22:42,895 --> 00:22:45,162
The curse was broken
by owl feathers,
506
00:22:45,164 --> 00:22:47,832
which remain in a top drawer
of the chest.
507
00:22:47,834 --> 00:22:49,633
Is this anomaly an owl?
508
00:22:49,635 --> 00:22:51,469
Or are we just matrixing it
to be?
509
00:22:51,471 --> 00:22:53,537
Could it be a spirit
of one of the victims
510
00:22:53,539 --> 00:22:55,906
that was giving us strong
EMF spikes around Beverly?
511
00:22:55,908 --> 00:22:57,007
Whoa.
512
00:22:57,009 --> 00:22:58,943
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa!
No!
513
00:22:58,945 --> 00:23:00,277
What we do have to realize
514
00:23:00,279 --> 00:23:03,480
is that we took a succession
of several other photos
515
00:23:03,482 --> 00:23:05,082
in that same spot,
516
00:23:05,084 --> 00:23:06,951
and this anomaly
never appeared again.
517
00:23:08,154 --> 00:23:10,121
Why don't we open it up
and see what's inside?
518
00:23:10,123 --> 00:23:12,289
I'm not gonna open it.
You open it.
519
00:23:12,291 --> 00:23:13,991
Why can't you open it, sir?
520
00:23:13,993 --> 00:23:16,160
Don't ask me that question.
I'm not gonna open it.
521
00:23:35,548 --> 00:23:38,282
A strange man
carrying a briefcase
522
00:23:38,284 --> 00:23:39,817
shows up at the museum
523
00:23:39,819 --> 00:23:42,219
and asks
if he can speak with me.
524
00:23:42,221 --> 00:23:44,655
I have no idea
what this is about.
525
00:23:44,657 --> 00:23:47,324
And the exciting part
is I never know.
526
00:23:47,326 --> 00:23:48,592
Whoa.
527
00:23:48,594 --> 00:23:50,995
How you doing?
- Hey. How are you?
528
00:23:50,997 --> 00:23:52,129
Good.
529
00:23:52,131 --> 00:23:53,564
Please put the object
on the table
530
00:23:53,566 --> 00:23:54,799
and have a seat.
531
00:23:54,801 --> 00:23:56,434
- Yeah, sure.
- Yeah.
532
00:24:01,140 --> 00:24:02,540
- You're Zak?
- Yes.
533
00:24:02,542 --> 00:24:03,574
- Robert.
- How you doing?
534
00:24:03,576 --> 00:24:04,708
Yeah, good.
535
00:24:04,710 --> 00:24:08,679
So what's the story
with the briefcase?
536
00:24:08,681 --> 00:24:10,915
What I have is, I have
a little something in the case.
537
00:24:10,917 --> 00:24:13,784
Now, the case is not haunted.
538
00:24:13,786 --> 00:24:15,252
But what is inside...
539
00:24:15,254 --> 00:24:17,154
Well, why don't we open it up
and see what's inside?
540
00:24:17,156 --> 00:24:19,190
I'm not gonna open it.
You open it.
541
00:24:19,192 --> 00:24:20,758
Why can't you open it, sir?
542
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:22,359
Don't ask me that question.
I'm not gonna open it.
543
00:24:23,930 --> 00:24:27,331
Theodore, can you please
open the case, please?
544
00:24:30,703 --> 00:24:32,136
What's wrong?
545
00:24:33,673 --> 00:24:34,672
What's in it?
546
00:24:34,674 --> 00:24:36,507
Pictures, sir.
That's it?
547
00:24:36,509 --> 00:24:38,476
It's what's in the picture.
548
00:24:38,478 --> 00:24:39,810
Looks like mobsters,
549
00:24:39,812 --> 00:24:41,579
ready to kill a bunch of people.
550
00:24:41,581 --> 00:24:42,813
Can I see?
551
00:24:42,815 --> 00:24:44,682
Yes.
552
00:24:44,684 --> 00:24:47,751
Cool.
553
00:24:47,753 --> 00:24:50,688
Looks like the
Saint Valentine's Day Massacre.
554
00:24:50,690 --> 00:24:53,057
Matter of fact, it is the
Saint Valentine's Day Massacre.
555
00:24:53,059 --> 00:24:54,758
Cool. So is there a gun in there
or something?
556
00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:56,427
No, no, no,
don't worry about anything else.
557
00:24:56,429 --> 00:24:58,829
Just, the photo's enough for you
right now.
558
00:24:58,831 --> 00:25:00,331
Now, listen to me.
559
00:25:00,333 --> 00:25:02,233
Actual photo
of what happened back then
560
00:25:02,235 --> 00:25:03,400
at the time in Chicago.
561
00:25:03,402 --> 00:25:04,568
I'm familiar with that.
562
00:25:04,570 --> 00:25:05,769
Yeah, well, you should be.
563
00:25:05,771 --> 00:25:07,204
And I'm gonna familiarize you
a little bit more.
564
00:25:07,206 --> 00:25:08,305
Okay.
565
00:25:08,307 --> 00:25:11,141
Over at the Mob Museum
here in Las Vegas,
566
00:25:11,143 --> 00:25:12,576
we have a piece of the wall
567
00:25:12,578 --> 00:25:14,411
from the Saint Valentine's Day
Massacre.
568
00:25:14,413 --> 00:25:15,212
The actual wall?
569
00:25:15,214 --> 00:25:16,247
What, did I stutter?
570
00:25:16,249 --> 00:25:17,648
I just said we had
a piece of the wall.
571
00:25:17,650 --> 00:25:19,950
Not only that,
572
00:25:19,952 --> 00:25:21,785
there's bullet holes
that are in it
573
00:25:21,787 --> 00:25:22,753
from the shooting.
574
00:25:22,755 --> 00:25:24,421
So it's the actual wall?
575
00:25:24,423 --> 00:25:25,789
What, are you
gonna interrupt me?
576
00:25:25,791 --> 00:25:26,991
Yeah, the actual wall.
577
00:25:26,993 --> 00:25:29,293
And there's also the gun
that was used in the crime.
578
00:25:29,295 --> 00:25:31,128
The gun that was used
to kill people?
579
00:25:31,130 --> 00:25:33,764
And the only reason
I brought this over to you today
580
00:25:33,766 --> 00:25:35,733
is because there's
some paranormal activity
581
00:25:35,735 --> 00:25:36,967
going on at the Mob Museum.
582
00:25:36,969 --> 00:25:39,837
And I think it has to do
with this photo,
583
00:25:39,839 --> 00:25:42,640
with that wall at that museum.
584
00:25:42,642 --> 00:25:44,608
And I think it's something
you need to check out.
585
00:25:44,610 --> 00:25:46,443
Okay. Do we have permission
to go there?
586
00:25:46,445 --> 00:25:48,379
Don't worry about it.
It's taken care of.
587
00:25:48,381 --> 00:25:50,180
You just tell 'em
Bobby sent you.
588
00:25:50,182 --> 00:25:51,148
It's fine.
589
00:25:51,150 --> 00:25:53,150
You go. You see.
590
00:25:53,152 --> 00:25:55,786
You will feel what's going on.
591
00:25:55,788 --> 00:25:57,821
You check it out for yourself.
Okay.
592
00:25:57,823 --> 00:25:58,989
All right.
Thank you.
593
00:25:58,991 --> 00:26:01,125
It's been a pleasure.
Yeah, yeah, all right.
594
00:26:01,127 --> 00:26:02,293
Thank you.
595
00:26:05,731 --> 00:26:07,264
I'm usually scared of objects,
596
00:26:07,266 --> 00:26:08,666
but I was terrified of this man.
597
00:26:08,668 --> 00:26:11,168
I'm trying to figure out
if he's the real thing
598
00:26:11,170 --> 00:26:13,337
or if he's an actor
from the Mob Museum.
599
00:26:13,339 --> 00:26:15,272
Was this planned?
600
00:26:15,274 --> 00:26:17,908
Even if Bobby is an actor,
601
00:26:17,910 --> 00:26:21,145
the Saint Valentine's Day
Massacre was very real.
602
00:26:21,147 --> 00:26:24,114
I've always been fascinated
with mob history.
603
00:26:24,116 --> 00:26:29,420
So I'm excited to investigate --
one museum to the other.
604
00:26:29,422 --> 00:26:31,021
Wow.
605
00:26:31,023 --> 00:26:33,824
What's your name, sir?
Geoff.
606
00:26:33,826 --> 00:26:35,926
Geoff, is this
the original brick wall
607
00:26:35,928 --> 00:26:38,195
from the Saint Valentine's Day
Massacre?
608
00:26:38,197 --> 00:26:39,430
Yes.
609
00:26:41,434 --> 00:26:44,234
These are the bricks
that were in the wall,
610
00:26:44,236 --> 00:26:46,770
against which the guys
were shot down.
611
00:26:46,772 --> 00:26:49,006
These are actual examples
612
00:26:49,008 --> 00:26:51,976
of where bullets hit the wall.
613
00:26:51,978 --> 00:26:54,878
How many mobsters got killed?
Seven.
614
00:26:57,850 --> 00:27:00,484
And wasn't this arranged
by Al Capone?
615
00:27:00,486 --> 00:27:03,087
Al Capone was never
convicted of it.
616
00:27:03,089 --> 00:27:05,022
and neither were any of his men.
617
00:27:05,024 --> 00:27:07,925
But historians widely believe
that he was behind it.
618
00:27:07,927 --> 00:27:11,629
We investigated
Eastern State Penitentiary,
619
00:27:11,631 --> 00:27:15,232
and Al Capone
was incarcerated there.
620
00:27:15,234 --> 00:27:21,005
The guards claimed
that Al Capone was haunted
621
00:27:21,007 --> 00:27:26,543
by one of the victims
that was shot against this wall.
622
00:27:26,545 --> 00:27:28,912
It's amazing, in our journeys,
623
00:27:28,914 --> 00:27:33,484
how everything connects together
from our investigations.
624
00:27:33,486 --> 00:27:36,587
You can just feel the energy
around this wall.
625
00:27:36,589 --> 00:27:37,821
This is...
Yeah.
626
00:27:37,823 --> 00:27:39,590
This is absolutely awesome.
627
00:27:39,592 --> 00:27:42,292
Al Capone controlled
most of the bootlegging
628
00:27:42,294 --> 00:27:44,828
in Chicago
and much of the upper Midwest,
629
00:27:44,830 --> 00:27:48,265
getting alcohol and then
selling it during Prohibition.
630
00:27:48,267 --> 00:27:50,200
But he had this foe,
631
00:27:50,202 --> 00:27:52,336
this enemy, this rival
named Bugs Moran.
632
00:27:52,338 --> 00:27:55,172
Al Capone's gang
and Bugs Moran's gang
633
00:27:55,174 --> 00:27:58,142
were constantly
at each other's throats.
634
00:27:58,144 --> 00:28:00,377
They were rivals?
They were rivals.
635
00:28:00,379 --> 00:28:02,146
And the newspapers called it
the Beer Wars.
636
00:28:02,148 --> 00:28:03,781
What happened is
637
00:28:03,783 --> 00:28:06,116
these guys dressed up
as police officers.
638
00:28:06,118 --> 00:28:07,484
Who did?
The assailants.
639
00:28:07,486 --> 00:28:09,753
They came to the scene
in a police car,
640
00:28:09,755 --> 00:28:10,988
so these guys...
What?
641
00:28:10,990 --> 00:28:12,623
...thought it was
a typical shakedown, right?
642
00:28:12,625 --> 00:28:14,324
They agreed to line up
against the wall...
643
00:28:14,326 --> 00:28:15,993
Ho. Gosh.
...so that, presumably,
644
00:28:15,995 --> 00:28:18,696
they could be shaken down
for whatever.
645
00:28:18,698 --> 00:28:20,431
They whip out the tommy guns,
646
00:28:20,433 --> 00:28:21,632
and they blast away.
647
00:28:23,035 --> 00:28:27,037
One guy actually survived
the massacre for a short time.
648
00:28:27,039 --> 00:28:29,840
So when the authorities
came to the scene,
649
00:28:29,842 --> 00:28:31,775
he can barely talk, he's dying.
650
00:28:31,777 --> 00:28:33,644
But he's -- long enough to say
651
00:28:33,646 --> 00:28:35,646
that cops killed them
652
00:28:35,648 --> 00:28:37,581
'cause he believed
they were cops.
653
00:28:37,583 --> 00:28:39,450
They got away with it?
They got away with it.
654
00:28:39,452 --> 00:28:41,852
No one was ever convicted
of that crime.
655
00:28:41,854 --> 00:28:43,587
There was a massacre.
656
00:28:43,589 --> 00:28:47,091
And all of that is just
a memory right now.
657
00:28:47,093 --> 00:28:48,692
It's history.
658
00:28:48,694 --> 00:28:52,863
But standing right next to us
is a brick wall
659
00:28:52,865 --> 00:28:56,967
that still has all that energy
stored into this wall.
660
00:28:56,969 --> 00:28:59,336
Does that gun have anything
to do with the massacre?
661
00:28:59,338 --> 00:29:03,073
That tommy gun is believed
to have been owned
662
00:29:03,075 --> 00:29:04,842
by Machine Gun Jack McGurn,
663
00:29:04,844 --> 00:29:06,543
Al Capone's right-hand man.
664
00:29:06,545 --> 00:29:08,846
It was suspected
that he had masterminded
665
00:29:08,848 --> 00:29:10,447
the Saint Valentine's Day
Massacre.
666
00:29:10,449 --> 00:29:13,183
Wait, the guy who owned that gun
667
00:29:13,185 --> 00:29:15,886
masterminded this massacre?
668
00:29:15,888 --> 00:29:17,421
That is a leading theory.
669
00:29:17,423 --> 00:29:18,856
Can you take the gun out?
670
00:29:18,858 --> 00:29:19,857
I can take it out.
671
00:29:19,859 --> 00:29:20,924
And we can set it down
on a table
672
00:29:20,926 --> 00:29:21,792
and take a look at it.
673
00:29:21,794 --> 00:29:23,560
Really?
674
00:29:26,832 --> 00:29:30,234
This is just incredibly awesome.
675
00:29:30,402 --> 00:29:33,003
I can't really hold it
very long.
676
00:29:36,609 --> 00:29:38,242
Whoa! It's just --
Yeah, you don't want to...
677
00:29:38,244 --> 00:29:41,779
I just realized I was standing
in the line of fire.
678
00:29:41,781 --> 00:29:43,680
Yes. Can you imagine that?
Zak Bagans...
679
00:29:43,682 --> 00:29:45,449
You see, I'm not an expert.
...Gone!
680
00:29:45,451 --> 00:29:48,819
But you can see that this was
a brutal weapon.
681
00:29:48,821 --> 00:29:51,388
I mean, it was
not intended to be
682
00:29:51,390 --> 00:29:53,257
a weapon that was accurate.
683
00:29:53,259 --> 00:29:55,726
It was mass carnage.
684
00:29:55,728 --> 00:29:57,194
So can I -- can I hold it?
685
00:29:57,196 --> 00:29:59,696
You cannot hold it unfortunately.
I can't. Okay.
686
00:29:59,698 --> 00:30:00,831
That's fine.
687
00:30:00,833 --> 00:30:02,599
Can I put a glove on
and touch it with a finger?
688
00:30:02,601 --> 00:30:04,201
You can touch it with a finger.
689
00:30:04,203 --> 00:30:07,204
Can I touch the trigger?
You can.
690
00:30:07,206 --> 00:30:09,139
You ready? Get this.
Zoom in, guys.
691
00:30:09,141 --> 00:30:10,774
Zoom in. Ready?
692
00:30:10,776 --> 00:30:13,644
While I'm not allowed to
hold Jack McGurn's gun... Wow.
693
00:30:13,646 --> 00:30:15,612
...I am allowed to touch
the very trigger
694
00:30:15,614 --> 00:30:18,248
where his finger
may have sent countless mobsters
695
00:30:18,250 --> 00:30:19,516
to their graves.
696
00:30:19,518 --> 00:30:21,151
Can I keep the gun --
no, I mean...
697
00:30:22,188 --> 00:30:24,388
...Can I keep the glove?
Sure. Sure.
698
00:30:25,391 --> 00:30:27,691
Man, how you been?
I haven't seen you for a little while.
699
00:30:27,693 --> 00:30:29,393
You're gonna love what I did
with this car.
700
00:30:29,395 --> 00:30:31,662
Yeah, I got McLovin
wiping it down for you.
701
00:30:32,264 --> 00:30:35,199
Boom! Holy **** Look at that!
Exactly.
702
00:30:49,682 --> 00:30:51,915
We're at the Mob Museum
in Las Vegas,
703
00:30:51,917 --> 00:30:53,483
learning about the dark history
704
00:30:53,485 --> 00:30:55,319
surrounding
the actual brick wall
705
00:30:55,321 --> 00:30:57,688
that seven men were
shot to death in front of
706
00:30:57,690 --> 00:31:00,257
during the Saint Valentine's Day
Massacre.
707
00:31:00,259 --> 00:31:02,326
We are told apparitions
of the massacre
708
00:31:02,328 --> 00:31:04,461
are seen near the wall
frequently.
709
00:31:04,463 --> 00:31:05,762
The museum had just closed.
710
00:31:05,764 --> 00:31:07,497
So I was walking through
to make sure everybody was out.
711
00:31:07,499 --> 00:31:08,632
And nobody was here.
712
00:31:08,634 --> 00:31:10,767
As soon as I continued
following him
713
00:31:10,769 --> 00:31:13,270
and went around the corner
just like he did,
714
00:31:13,272 --> 00:31:15,505
he disappeared.
715
00:31:15,507 --> 00:31:17,007
This is the first time
716
00:31:17,009 --> 00:31:19,877
anyone has investigated
at the Mob Museum.
717
00:31:19,879 --> 00:31:21,845
And I'm extremely curious to see
718
00:31:21,847 --> 00:31:24,481
if there's any
residual negative energy.
719
00:31:24,483 --> 00:31:28,018
Okay, right now, we are going to
begin our investigation.
720
00:31:28,020 --> 00:31:30,954
And I have
two different recorders.
721
00:31:30,956 --> 00:31:32,489
And these have
little microphones on them
722
00:31:32,491 --> 00:31:34,358
with suction cups.
Cool.
723
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:36,927
So I want to put
the suction cups
724
00:31:36,929 --> 00:31:41,064
on the Plexiglass over the wall
and over Jack McGurn's gun.
725
00:31:41,066 --> 00:31:42,733
Because you have seen
apparitions,
726
00:31:42,735 --> 00:31:45,002
I want to see if this is just
a residual haunting
727
00:31:45,004 --> 00:31:47,905
or if there are
intelligent spirits here.
728
00:31:47,907 --> 00:31:50,941
Place the suction cup
on the Plexiglass
729
00:31:50,943 --> 00:31:53,577
over one of the bullet holes.
730
00:31:53,579 --> 00:31:55,145
Aaron, while we do this,
731
00:31:55,147 --> 00:31:57,681
- take readings with the EMF detector...
- Okay.
732
00:31:57,683 --> 00:32:00,017
...and see if we get any
spikes near us. Okay.
733
00:32:00,019 --> 00:32:04,087
If you rustle any clothing,
whispers, or anything like that,
734
00:32:04,089 --> 00:32:06,256
say it out loud
so we mark the recorder.
735
00:32:06,258 --> 00:32:10,327
I'm now gonna take the other one
and put it right here,
736
00:32:10,329 --> 00:32:13,163
right over Jack McGurn's gun.
737
00:32:13,165 --> 00:32:14,431
All right,
on the count of three,
738
00:32:14,433 --> 00:32:15,299
I want you to hit record.
739
00:32:15,301 --> 00:32:17,134
One, two, three.
740
00:32:18,470 --> 00:32:20,237
And we're gonna alternate.
You're gonna ask a question.
741
00:32:20,239 --> 00:32:21,471
I'm gonna ask a question.
742
00:32:21,473 --> 00:32:27,611
Jack McGurn, are you here?
743
00:32:27,613 --> 00:32:32,582
Are you the man that many people
have seen here?
744
00:32:35,087 --> 00:32:37,921
Is any one of the seven men
that died on this wall
745
00:32:37,923 --> 00:32:39,156
here with us?
746
00:32:39,158 --> 00:32:42,960
Do you have anything to say
about what happened?
747
00:32:42,962 --> 00:32:44,594
How's the EMF?
748
00:32:44,596 --> 00:32:45,762
Nothing's happening.
Baseline?
749
00:32:45,764 --> 00:32:47,264
Base. I don't feel anything.
750
00:32:47,266 --> 00:32:48,932
And while I'm trying to get
751
00:32:48,934 --> 00:32:51,234
intelligent responses
from spirits,
752
00:32:51,236 --> 00:32:55,272
these microphones could be
picking up stored information,
753
00:32:55,274 --> 00:32:59,142
stored emotions
into these items.
754
00:32:59,144 --> 00:33:04,081
So we may be getting voices,
screams, whatever,
755
00:33:04,083 --> 00:33:06,116
that we may not be hearing.
756
00:33:06,118 --> 00:33:08,552
Did you haunt Al Capone
757
00:33:08,554 --> 00:33:11,755
in his jail cell
at Eastern State Penitentiary?
758
00:33:11,757 --> 00:33:13,857
Are you here now?
759
00:33:13,859 --> 00:33:18,061
Was one of these bullet holes
the ones that killed you?
760
00:33:18,964 --> 00:33:22,165
Can you please come to us
in this room
761
00:33:22,167 --> 00:33:26,136
if you are a victim of the
Saint Valentine's Day Massacre?
762
00:33:26,138 --> 00:33:28,338
Anything that you can do
763
00:33:28,340 --> 00:33:31,308
to give us a sign
that you hear us and see us?
764
00:33:33,245 --> 00:33:35,579
I feel, like, pretty cold
right now, right here.
765
00:33:35,581 --> 00:33:36,880
Are you?
766
00:33:36,882 --> 00:33:38,048
On your left side?
767
00:33:38,050 --> 00:33:40,484
Aaron, go do EMF
on her left shoulder.
768
00:33:43,022 --> 00:33:44,187
It's at a 0.1.
769
00:33:44,189 --> 00:33:47,024
And it did jump
to 0.3 real quick.
770
00:33:47,026 --> 00:33:49,359
Did it?
But now it's back to 0.1.
771
00:33:49,361 --> 00:33:51,895
So you had a little spike.
Little spike.
772
00:33:51,897 --> 00:33:56,166
Ask if somebody is there
and if they touched you.
773
00:33:56,168 --> 00:33:58,668
Is somebody here?
774
00:33:58,670 --> 00:34:00,270
Did you just touch my arm?
775
00:34:00,272 --> 00:34:03,907
Are you angry that your killers
were never caught?
776
00:34:05,711 --> 00:34:08,979
Jack McGurn, are you here,
wanting your gun back?
777
00:34:12,551 --> 00:34:14,351
All right.
Let's stop.
778
00:34:14,353 --> 00:34:17,087
So can you tell me real quick,
779
00:34:17,089 --> 00:34:19,423
what did you feel in that moment
that it --
780
00:34:19,425 --> 00:34:21,992
You said your shoulder
went cold or something.
781
00:34:21,994 --> 00:34:23,060
It felt like somebody
782
00:34:23,062 --> 00:34:24,561
was just petting me
on the arm like this
783
00:34:24,563 --> 00:34:27,164
and saying, like,
"I'm here." Really?
784
00:34:27,166 --> 00:34:29,199
But it didn't feel negative.
785
00:34:29,201 --> 00:34:32,869
It didn't feel, like,
demonic or negative energy.
786
00:34:32,871 --> 00:34:34,104
Well, it was interesting.
787
00:34:34,106 --> 00:34:35,839
We did get a spike
on the EMF detector
788
00:34:35,841 --> 00:34:37,374
in the same exact area.
789
00:34:37,376 --> 00:34:39,776
So we'll check the recordings
790
00:34:39,778 --> 00:34:42,145
and see if you got a message
791
00:34:42,147 --> 00:34:44,047
In that moment as well.
792
00:34:44,049 --> 00:34:45,582
So thank you.
Good job.
793
00:34:46,618 --> 00:34:49,920
Although there didn't appear
to be severe paranormal activity
794
00:34:49,922 --> 00:34:51,221
here at the Mob Museum,
795
00:34:51,223 --> 00:34:52,556
we won't know for sure
796
00:34:52,558 --> 00:34:54,958
until we get to analyze
our EVP session.
797
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,194
While Billy
goes through the evidence,
798
00:34:57,196 --> 00:35:00,130
I'm taking Aaron to check out
something my buddy, S.J.,
799
00:35:00,132 --> 00:35:01,364
has been working on.
800
00:35:01,366 --> 00:35:03,333
We're at my friend
S.J.'s, body shop,
801
00:35:03,335 --> 00:35:05,435
Elite Audio and Customs.
802
00:35:05,437 --> 00:35:07,871
All these people are bringing us
all these haunted objects.
803
00:35:07,873 --> 00:35:10,874
It's time to showcase
one of my haunted objects.
804
00:35:10,876 --> 00:35:14,678
So right here,
I have not seen this object
805
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:16,813
since I bought it
about three months ago.
806
00:35:16,815 --> 00:35:18,582
It's been here...
What is it?
807
00:35:18,584 --> 00:35:21,218
...at the body shop,
getting completely redone.
808
00:35:21,220 --> 00:35:22,552
It is haunted.
809
00:35:22,554 --> 00:35:25,956
And I figured with all
these interviews that we have,
810
00:35:25,958 --> 00:35:28,225
and we're running around town
here in Vegas,
811
00:35:28,227 --> 00:35:29,326
meeting other people,
812
00:35:29,328 --> 00:35:31,094
further enhancing
our interviews,
813
00:35:31,096 --> 00:35:32,996
we need an official car.
814
00:35:32,998 --> 00:35:34,364
Ooh!
815
00:35:34,366 --> 00:35:38,802
We need an official
car for this show. Ooh!
816
00:35:38,804 --> 00:35:41,271
If something ever happens to me,
817
00:35:41,273 --> 00:35:44,407
I want this thing
to take me to my funeral.
818
00:35:44,409 --> 00:35:45,942
What? I'm just saying.
It's a clue.
819
00:35:45,944 --> 00:35:46,943
You got it?
You got it?
820
00:35:46,945 --> 00:35:47,911
Come here.
Follow me.
821
00:35:47,913 --> 00:35:48,945
What's up, man?
822
00:35:48,947 --> 00:35:50,347
Zak, what's up, man?
How you been?
823
00:35:50,349 --> 00:35:51,781
Haven't seen you for
a little while.
824
00:35:51,783 --> 00:35:53,483
You're gonna love what I did
with this car.
825
00:35:53,485 --> 00:35:55,785
Yeah, I got McLovin
wiping it down for you.
826
00:35:55,787 --> 00:35:57,053
Boom!
827
00:35:57,055 --> 00:35:58,421
Holy **** Look at that!
828
00:35:58,423 --> 00:35:59,956
Exactly how you wanted it, my man.
Yes!
829
00:35:59,958 --> 00:36:01,925
- Awesome!
- Yes, yes, yes!
830
00:36:01,927 --> 00:36:04,127
♪ Do you see
other dead people? ♪
831
00:36:04,129 --> 00:36:05,829
This is me!
832
00:36:07,432 --> 00:36:11,635
Got the matte black
paint, a custom interior. Damn!
833
00:36:11,637 --> 00:36:12,702
Got the red velvet.
834
00:36:12,704 --> 00:36:14,437
Man, that is sick.
835
00:36:14,439 --> 00:36:15,639
When I bought this thing,
836
00:36:15,641 --> 00:36:17,507
this dash
was completely destroyed --
837
00:36:17,509 --> 00:36:19,309
holes in it, tears.
838
00:36:19,311 --> 00:36:21,244
Why is it smoking?
Why's there smoke coming out?
839
00:36:21,246 --> 00:36:22,412
Well, we got the fog machine
840
00:36:22,414 --> 00:36:23,647
coming in there for you, so...
841
00:36:23,649 --> 00:36:24,881
You got a fog machine in here?
842
00:36:24,883 --> 00:36:28,318
You can't have a Deathmobile
without the fog.
843
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:29,719
Without the fog --
844
00:36:29,721 --> 00:36:31,988
matching the coffin sub box.
845
00:36:31,990 --> 00:36:33,490
Holy ****
846
00:36:33,492 --> 00:36:35,525
This will literally wake up the dead.
Looking good.
847
00:36:35,527 --> 00:36:39,396
That is a coffin
with speakers in it.
848
00:36:39,398 --> 00:36:41,498
I'm gonna hire this thing out.
849
00:36:41,500 --> 00:36:44,834
If you or a loved one
need a funeral, call me.
850
00:36:44,836 --> 00:36:46,403
And I will take you.
851
00:36:46,405 --> 00:36:48,238
And you will ride...
852
00:36:48,240 --> 00:36:50,006
We'll put the body
on top of the speakers.
853
00:36:50,008 --> 00:36:51,541
Best part is when you pull up,
854
00:36:51,543 --> 00:36:53,810
and you lay this thing flat...
855
00:36:55,214 --> 00:36:57,247
Whoa! ****
856
00:36:58,283 --> 00:37:00,217
Yeah, I hear that.
Okay, yeah.
857
00:37:00,219 --> 00:37:01,651
- Do you?
- Yeah.
858
00:37:01,653 --> 00:37:04,254
That is creepy!
That is sick!
859
00:37:19,972 --> 00:37:23,039
I'm at my buddy S.J.'s body
shop
860
00:37:23,041 --> 00:37:25,141
picking up the newest piece
of my collection,
861
00:37:25,143 --> 00:37:26,710
a customized hearse.
862
00:37:26,712 --> 00:37:29,412
Whoa! ****
863
00:37:29,414 --> 00:37:30,914
Jesus Christ, dude!
864
00:37:30,916 --> 00:37:33,416
Dude! Dude,
that just scared the **** out of me!
865
00:37:33,418 --> 00:37:35,318
For sure.
This thing has hydraulics.
866
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:38,188
That's cool -- a hearse that
will give you a heart attack.
867
00:37:38,190 --> 00:37:40,090
- Can I try it?
- Yeah.
868
00:37:40,092 --> 00:37:41,391
- Ho-ho!
- Whoa, sh...
869
00:37:41,393 --> 00:37:43,260
- It's like Disneyland!
- Is it supposed to do that?
870
00:37:43,262 --> 00:37:45,929
Whoa! Yeah!
871
00:37:45,931 --> 00:37:47,631
Make it go up and down.
872
00:37:47,633 --> 00:37:49,266
- Whoa! ****
- Whoa, look at that!
873
00:37:49,268 --> 00:37:51,401
- Now bounce.
- It's alive!
874
00:37:51,403 --> 00:37:53,169
- Bounce.
- It's alive!
875
00:37:53,171 --> 00:37:55,171
- Dang.
- It's sick, dude.
876
00:37:55,173 --> 00:37:58,408
It's like a possessed car.
877
00:37:58,410 --> 00:37:59,643
S.J., you are the man.
878
00:37:59,645 --> 00:38:02,379
Zak, man, thank you again.
You always do me right.
879
00:38:02,381 --> 00:38:07,417
We appreciate everything.
You turned this 1966 Pontiac Hearse
880
00:38:07,419 --> 00:38:10,720
into a beast.
881
00:38:10,722 --> 00:38:12,856
Did McLovin help you?
With my trusty guy, McLovin.
882
00:38:12,858 --> 00:38:13,957
Without McLovin,
883
00:38:13,959 --> 00:38:15,625
we wouldn't have had juice
for the fog machine,
884
00:38:15,627 --> 00:38:17,627
wiped down wheels,
and clean glass.
885
00:38:17,629 --> 00:38:20,230
McLovin, there are times
886
00:38:20,232 --> 00:38:22,065
that I may need a driver
for this.
887
00:38:22,067 --> 00:38:23,600
Would you be able to drive...
Yes, sir.
888
00:38:23,602 --> 00:38:24,801
Drive me around in this,
McLovin?
889
00:38:24,803 --> 00:38:26,236
I would love to drive you
in this car.
890
00:38:26,238 --> 00:38:29,606
This is sick. I love it, S.J..
You've done a good job.
891
00:38:29,608 --> 00:38:31,908
All right, We got to get back
to the museum, dude.
892
00:38:31,910 --> 00:38:33,777
We got somebody on their way
right now.
893
00:38:33,779 --> 00:38:36,446
But the most dangerous part
about this car is...
894
00:38:36,448 --> 00:38:38,782
Zak's behind the wheel!
I'm behind the wheel.
895
00:38:38,784 --> 00:38:41,551
And I'm co-pilot!
896
00:38:41,553 --> 00:38:43,153
Watch out, Vegas!
897
00:38:46,525 --> 00:38:47,957
Hey...
898
00:38:47,959 --> 00:38:49,659
...You sure you should be
driving this thing?
899
00:38:51,096 --> 00:38:52,562
God.
900
00:38:52,564 --> 00:38:54,698
This is awesome.
901
00:38:58,103 --> 00:38:59,202
Hit it!
902
00:38:59,204 --> 00:39:01,171
Everybody on the road,
watch out,
903
00:39:01,173 --> 00:39:03,473
'cause this car's
about to eat your soul.
904
00:39:03,475 --> 00:39:07,210
Aaron and I head back to
the museum to meet with Teresa
905
00:39:07,212 --> 00:39:09,579
to show her the evidence
Billy has found
906
00:39:09,581 --> 00:39:11,915
from our Mob Museum
investigation.
907
00:39:11,917 --> 00:39:13,650
- All right.
- How are you?
908
00:39:13,652 --> 00:39:14,951
Good. How are you?
909
00:39:14,953 --> 00:39:16,786
So Teresa,
it's good to see you again.
910
00:39:16,788 --> 00:39:18,188
Good to see you, too.
911
00:39:18,190 --> 00:39:21,024
You know, we did some
EVP sessions with you.
912
00:39:21,026 --> 00:39:22,225
Honestly, I didn't think that
913
00:39:22,227 --> 00:39:23,526
we would walk away
with anything.
914
00:39:23,528 --> 00:39:25,362
I was a bit skeptical of that.
915
00:39:25,364 --> 00:39:27,997
But after
Billy reviewed the audio,
916
00:39:27,999 --> 00:39:31,434
we received EVPs,
electronic voice phenomena. Wow.
917
00:39:31,436 --> 00:39:33,770
This was being picked up
918
00:39:33,772 --> 00:39:39,509
by the suction-cup microphone
listening beyond that glass.
919
00:39:39,511 --> 00:39:42,312
This was absolutely insane.
920
00:39:42,314 --> 00:39:45,415
The moment
that this was captured,
921
00:39:45,417 --> 00:39:47,450
we were being absolutely still.
922
00:39:49,121 --> 00:39:53,390
Jack McGurn, are you here
wanting your gun back?
923
00:39:53,392 --> 00:39:57,494
Billy, I want you to go ahead
and play it as it was captured
924
00:39:57,496 --> 00:39:58,962
and then explain to us
925
00:39:58,964 --> 00:40:00,764
what you did
in the enhanced version.
926
00:40:00,766 --> 00:40:01,798
Sure.
927
00:40:05,303 --> 00:40:06,536
Jack McGurn.
928
00:40:06,538 --> 00:40:08,405
So here's what I did
to enhance it.
929
00:40:08,407 --> 00:40:09,839
I slowed it down
930
00:40:09,841 --> 00:40:13,276
so we can hear the enunciation
of whatever's being said.
931
00:40:13,278 --> 00:40:14,544
All of this is EV...
932
00:40:14,546 --> 00:40:15,745
Yeah, all of these,
933
00:40:15,747 --> 00:40:18,848
you know, different spikes
of the waveform
934
00:40:18,850 --> 00:40:20,750
is the EVP in question.
935
00:40:20,752 --> 00:40:23,520
This is me saying,
"Jack McGurn."
936
00:40:23,522 --> 00:40:25,522
Maybe you can understand
this sentence
937
00:40:25,524 --> 00:40:27,090
and tell us what you think.
938
00:40:31,630 --> 00:40:34,330
Yeah, do you hear, like,
"What is happening to"... Something.
939
00:40:34,332 --> 00:40:35,432
Play that again.
940
00:40:39,905 --> 00:40:42,872
Okay, "Help, I'm," cutting.
941
00:40:42,874 --> 00:40:45,108
"What is happening to,"
or something.
942
00:40:50,115 --> 00:40:53,917
I just don't know what the word
after help is. Right. "Help."
943
00:40:53,919 --> 00:40:56,686
I hear, like,
"Help -- help, I'm," something.
944
00:40:56,688 --> 00:40:58,855
"What is happening to."
945
00:41:04,095 --> 00:41:05,328
It says, "Help, I'm injured.
946
00:41:05,330 --> 00:41:06,763
What's happening to me?"
Let me hear it.
947
00:41:11,803 --> 00:41:13,736
What if it says,
"Help, I'm dying.
948
00:41:13,738 --> 00:41:15,572
What is happening to me?"
949
00:41:15,574 --> 00:41:16,873
When they got shot,
950
00:41:16,875 --> 00:41:19,943
your last thoughts, maybe
your last breath, is,
951
00:41:19,945 --> 00:41:22,545
"Help, I'm dying.
What is happening to me?" Right.
952
00:41:27,018 --> 00:41:28,952
Yeah. I hear that. Okay.
Yeah, I hear that.
953
00:41:28,954 --> 00:41:30,119
- Do you?
- Yeah.
954
00:41:30,121 --> 00:41:31,588
- That is creepy!
955
00:41:31,590 --> 00:41:33,556
That is sick!
956
00:41:33,558 --> 00:41:36,025
This may be one of the thoughts
957
00:41:36,027 --> 00:41:39,696
of one of the victims
that is stored in that wall.
958
00:41:39,698 --> 00:41:41,431
I'm happy.
I'm excited for this.
959
00:41:41,433 --> 00:41:43,199
This was a great capture.
960
00:41:47,739 --> 00:41:50,740
So I would just keep an eye
on that area
961
00:41:50,742 --> 00:41:55,778
and keep us informed
if this spirit manifests himself
962
00:41:55,780 --> 00:41:57,547
now that you've heard his voice.
963
00:41:57,549 --> 00:41:58,815
That's exciting.
Are you okay?
964
00:41:58,817 --> 00:41:59,849
Yeah.
965
00:41:59,851 --> 00:42:01,351
After reviewing this,
966
00:42:01,353 --> 00:42:04,020
I believe this is
place memory evidence,
967
00:42:04,022 --> 00:42:06,356
meaning the residue
of that deadly massacre
968
00:42:06,358 --> 00:42:08,358
has stored itself
into the bricks.
969
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:09,893
And at the right moment,
970
00:42:09,895 --> 00:42:13,997
audio and visual presentations
can be heard and even seen.
971
00:42:13,999 --> 00:42:15,932
However, because this response
972
00:42:15,934 --> 00:42:18,902
also seemed to have
answered our questions,
973
00:42:18,904 --> 00:42:20,369
it lends to the theory
974
00:42:20,371 --> 00:42:22,472
that it could also be
an intelligent spirit
975
00:42:22,474 --> 00:42:24,173
haunting the museum.
976
00:42:24,175 --> 00:42:26,743
I'd love to do a second,
more thorough investigation
977
00:42:26,745 --> 00:42:29,078
of the Mob Museum
in the near future.
71868
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