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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:07,046 --> 00:00:08,605 So, have you spoken to your dad again? 2 00:00:08,606 --> 00:00:11,045 - No. Spoke to a lawyer, though. - A lawyer? 3 00:00:11,046 --> 00:00:12,445 I can't lose this anger, John. 4 00:00:12,446 --> 00:00:16,165 First theory - a chase that went accidentally wrong. 5 00:00:16,166 --> 00:00:19,005 Second theory - this was a very violent murder. 6 00:00:19,006 --> 00:00:21,966 - What if they find out about the pub? - They won't find out about the pub. 7 00:00:21,967 --> 00:00:23,325 They might find out everything. 8 00:00:23,326 --> 00:00:26,045 They said I was speeding. I killed a child. 9 00:00:26,046 --> 00:00:27,765 If that blood test had come back positive, 10 00:00:27,766 --> 00:00:30,565 - Fiona Grayson would be in jail. - It was lost. 11 00:00:30,566 --> 00:00:33,485 Three weeks before Matthew disappeared, he committed an ABH 12 00:00:33,486 --> 00:00:34,845 on Ram Sidhu. 13 00:00:34,846 --> 00:00:37,206 I've been trying to speak to you for the last 24 hours, Ram. 14 00:00:37,207 --> 00:00:38,885 I'm doing a blood test in an hour. 15 00:00:38,886 --> 00:00:41,165 You never told me the police had interviewed you. 16 00:00:41,166 --> 00:00:44,525 - I can't take the secrets and lies. - We will do this, but not now. 17 00:00:44,526 --> 00:00:47,166 - I think we pull Sidhu in now. - You don't think we should wait... 18 00:00:47,167 --> 00:00:48,645 No. Let's get him in now, please. 19 00:00:48,646 --> 00:00:51,285 A witness comes out 30 years after the event and says 20 00:00:51,286 --> 00:00:53,325 he saw an Asian guy, are you serious? 21 00:00:53,326 --> 00:00:55,246 - I think we're done here. - I just want it over. 22 00:00:55,247 --> 00:00:56,367 I shouldn't even be here. 23 00:01:06,606 --> 00:01:09,725 ♪ All we do is hide away 24 00:01:09,726 --> 00:01:14,085 ♪ All we do is, All we do is hide away 25 00:01:14,086 --> 00:01:18,085 ♪ All we do is lie and wait 26 00:01:18,086 --> 00:01:21,565 ♪ All we do is, All we do is lie and wait 27 00:01:21,566 --> 00:01:25,445 ♪ I've been upside down 28 00:01:25,446 --> 00:01:29,125 ♪ I don't wanna be The right way round 29 00:01:29,126 --> 00:01:32,846 ♪ Can't find paradise On the ground. ♪ 30 00:02:17,486 --> 00:02:19,325 - Murray's found our landlady. - Monty? 31 00:02:19,326 --> 00:02:20,805 Lovely Monty. 32 00:02:20,806 --> 00:02:23,045 - She's alive? - Very much so, apparently. 33 00:02:23,046 --> 00:02:25,525 - He's seeing her in the morning. - Nice one. 34 00:02:25,526 --> 00:02:28,085 You look knackered, boss. 35 00:02:28,086 --> 00:02:30,365 - Thank you. - I meant "go home". 36 00:02:30,366 --> 00:02:31,805 I'm trying. 37 00:02:31,806 --> 00:02:33,405 Oh, Guy, sorry... 38 00:02:33,406 --> 00:02:36,805 You know the documents thing for Dean Barton? 39 00:02:36,806 --> 00:02:40,245 - Turns out he changed his surname. - Wow. When and why? 40 00:02:40,246 --> 00:02:42,605 About three months before he applied to Hendon. OK. 41 00:02:42,606 --> 00:02:46,365 Changed it by deed poll. His real name is Dean Quinn. 42 00:02:46,366 --> 00:02:49,765 I'll run it through PNC, maybe that'll tell us why. 43 00:02:49,766 --> 00:02:51,925 Good stuff. Let me know if you get anything. 44 00:02:51,926 --> 00:02:53,046 Yeah. Night, boss. 45 00:02:54,006 --> 00:02:56,405 This is why you changed your mind? 46 00:02:56,406 --> 00:02:59,445 Because you think you might be in jail on a murder charge? 47 00:02:59,446 --> 00:03:02,845 Listen. First of all, I didn't do anything. 48 00:03:02,846 --> 00:03:05,565 If you didn't do anything, why do you look so scared? 49 00:03:05,566 --> 00:03:08,565 Oh, why am I ever scared when I'm getting investigated, Anna? 50 00:03:08,566 --> 00:03:12,445 - What murder? Who? Where? - It was three decades ago. 51 00:03:12,446 --> 00:03:14,845 They have no evidence, and like I said, 52 00:03:14,846 --> 00:03:16,525 - I didn't do anything. - Who? 53 00:03:16,526 --> 00:03:18,405 Some... 54 00:03:18,406 --> 00:03:21,205 small time drug dealer. They found his preserved body 55 00:03:21,206 --> 00:03:22,765 - a week or so ago. - I saw that story. 56 00:03:22,766 --> 00:03:25,125 OK, so... 57 00:03:25,126 --> 00:03:27,885 This weird connection between the victim 58 00:03:27,886 --> 00:03:29,685 - and a car I was in. - A real connection? 59 00:03:29,686 --> 00:03:31,326 - Yeah, but... - What connection?! 60 00:03:32,646 --> 00:03:35,246 They think his body was in the back of the car. 61 00:03:37,366 --> 00:03:38,845 Oh, my God. 62 00:03:38,846 --> 00:03:42,206 But if it was, I had no idea. And I swear... 63 00:03:43,646 --> 00:03:48,206 ...Anna, I had nothing to do with any murder. 64 00:03:53,846 --> 00:03:59,245 But, yes, I am scared, as always, because I'm a problem for them, 65 00:03:59,246 --> 00:04:01,565 always have been, and I genuinely believe 66 00:04:01,566 --> 00:04:03,406 they could use this to get rid of me for good. 67 00:04:07,646 --> 00:04:09,126 I don't know, Ram. 68 00:04:10,525 --> 00:04:12,365 I just know this is one more thing to cope with 69 00:04:12,366 --> 00:04:14,846 at the hardest moment of my entire life. 70 00:04:15,966 --> 00:04:18,006 PHONE RINGS 71 00:04:24,312 --> 00:04:25,312 Caz. 72 00:04:25,313 --> 00:04:27,765 So I've found nothing for Dean Quinn, 73 00:04:27,766 --> 00:04:30,245 but lots for a Peter Quinn. 74 00:04:30,246 --> 00:04:32,565 Date of birth 1949, 75 00:04:32,566 --> 00:04:34,965 with his birth certificate detailing him having four sons, 76 00:04:34,966 --> 00:04:36,245 with one of them called Dean. 77 00:04:36,246 --> 00:04:39,325 Mm. And when you say "lots"? 78 00:04:39,326 --> 00:04:43,565 Drugs, prostitution, extortion, lots of violence. 79 00:04:43,566 --> 00:04:45,285 I mean, he's spent half his life inside. 80 00:04:45,286 --> 00:04:47,485 Jesus. How was the father's record not spotted? 81 00:04:47,486 --> 00:04:49,685 Yeah, well, the name change obviously helped. 82 00:04:49,686 --> 00:04:52,765 But Dean's application wasn't sent from the family home address either, 83 00:04:52,766 --> 00:04:54,965 so he was obviously trying to avoid just that. 84 00:04:54,966 --> 00:04:57,445 But it wasn't just the father at it, either. 85 00:04:57,446 --> 00:04:59,725 Two of Dean's brothers have long records as well, 86 00:04:59,726 --> 00:05:02,366 - so it's clearly a family business. - Hm. 87 00:05:04,366 --> 00:05:06,286 OK, good work, Caz. 88 00:05:07,726 --> 00:05:11,446 - Now, go home. G'night. - Night, boss. 89 00:05:20,886 --> 00:05:23,285 What do you mean you're not gonna let me in? 90 00:05:23,286 --> 00:05:25,325 I don't want you to talk to him in this mood. 91 00:05:25,326 --> 00:05:28,205 - What mood? I'm not in any mood. - You're angry, again. 92 00:05:28,206 --> 00:05:30,205 No. No, I'm not. But if I was, it would be because 93 00:05:30,206 --> 00:05:33,005 a woman I hardly know is stopping me from seeing my own father. No. 94 00:05:33,006 --> 00:05:35,325 I mean, I'm sure you'd prefer if I never saw him again, 95 00:05:35,326 --> 00:05:36,725 - SO you can... - So I can what? 96 00:05:36,726 --> 00:05:40,046 Oh, seriously, just let me in, you absolute... Go home, Cass. 97 00:05:41,446 --> 00:05:44,645 Jen is simply trying to protect me because she knows 98 00:05:44,646 --> 00:05:47,646 that I really do find all of this incredibly upsetting. 99 00:05:51,166 --> 00:05:52,566 I mean, Jesus, Cass... 100 00:05:54,046 --> 00:05:56,325 ...don't you think it's hard enough me losing me, 101 00:05:56,326 --> 00:05:59,725 without feeling that I am losing my daughter as well? 102 00:05:59,726 --> 00:06:01,685 I mean, really, what's happened to you? 103 00:06:01,686 --> 00:06:03,885 - Nothing's happened to me. - Why not try asking John 104 00:06:03,886 --> 00:06:08,365 if he thinks that's true. Or Adam. Or your work colleagues. 105 00:06:08,366 --> 00:06:10,885 Maybe ask them if they think you've turned into an arsehole. 106 00:06:10,886 --> 00:06:12,805 Because I do. 107 00:06:12,806 --> 00:06:14,206 Maybe I'll ask my lawyer! 108 00:06:16,766 --> 00:06:17,806 Oh. 109 00:06:19,865 --> 00:06:23,764 Actually, I don't even think you are angry about the will... 110 00:06:24,526 --> 00:06:26,845 ...or Jen. 111 00:06:26,847 --> 00:06:29,647 I think you're angry because you're losing him. 112 00:06:30,220 --> 00:06:32,179 And if that anger's helping you, 113 00:06:32,401 --> 00:06:35,680 fine, whatever gets you through the night. 114 00:06:35,681 --> 00:06:37,161 Except I don't think it is. 115 00:06:38,721 --> 00:06:41,160 I think it's making things worse. 116 00:06:41,161 --> 00:06:43,321 And it's definitely not helping him. 117 00:06:45,641 --> 00:06:49,201 And I'll say this once more, then you can tell me to piss off... 118 00:06:50,761 --> 00:06:54,000 We don't need your pension money, Cass, we could buy a lovely place 119 00:06:54,001 --> 00:06:56,779 down here, mortgage free, with what we have. 120 00:06:56,781 --> 00:06:57,585 OK. 121 00:06:57,586 --> 00:06:59,680 You could leave tomorrow if you wanted. 122 00:06:59,681 --> 00:07:03,960 Of course, you're right, I know you are... about it all and... 123 00:07:03,961 --> 00:07:05,801 TW call my dad in the morning. 124 00:07:08,641 --> 00:07:10,801 But the job... 125 00:07:12,161 --> 00:07:14,441 ...I have to stay now, John. 126 00:07:16,001 --> 00:07:18,320 There's stuff I'll tell you one day, but... 127 00:07:18,321 --> 00:07:20,481 I have to see this case through now. 128 00:07:23,721 --> 00:07:28,560 Oh, how could you forget Ram? So handsome, we all fancied Ram. 129 00:07:28,561 --> 00:07:30,880 So you remember this incident, Monty? 130 00:07:30,881 --> 00:07:32,800 It was me that called the police. 131 00:07:32,801 --> 00:07:35,200 Walsh made such a mess of his face. 132 00:07:35,201 --> 00:07:37,520 What about the girl, the one the fight was about, 133 00:07:37,521 --> 00:07:39,280 do you remember her name? 134 00:07:39,281 --> 00:07:41,080 I don't remember her name, but... 135 00:07:41,081 --> 00:07:42,720 she was the one I had to keep barring 136 00:07:42,721 --> 00:07:45,080 because she was drinking too much. 137 00:07:45,081 --> 00:07:47,840 OK, right, but she was also a probie? 138 00:07:47,841 --> 00:07:50,720 - Yeah. - And she was there with just Ram? 139 00:07:50,721 --> 00:07:53,360 Oh, no, she was there with another girl, er... 140 00:07:53,361 --> 00:07:57,600 Busy Lizzie... always moving at 100 miles an hour. 141 00:07:57,601 --> 00:08:00,880 Now, the arresting officer suggested that the suspect 142 00:08:00,881 --> 00:08:02,480 had made a pass at the girl? 143 00:08:02,481 --> 00:08:05,480 Oh, it was much more than a pass, I think. 144 00:08:05,481 --> 00:08:10,360 There was an alley to the ladies outside, and he grabbed her there. 145 00:08:10,361 --> 00:08:13,000 These days, you call it a sexual assault. 146 00:08:13,001 --> 00:08:17,400 Ram had interrupted it... and just went for him. 147 00:08:17,401 --> 00:08:19,961 He bit off more than he could chew, unfortunately. 148 00:08:22,641 --> 00:08:26,080 Hey, Dad, it's me. Er... listen, 149 00:08:26,081 --> 00:08:28,281 I don't wanna do this on a message... 150 00:08:29,401 --> 00:08:32,281 ...but can you call me, please? I really wanna speak to you. 151 00:08:40,161 --> 00:08:41,481 SCRAPING 152 00:08:52,201 --> 00:08:54,400 What year was your conviction? 153 00:08:54,401 --> 00:08:56,001 The dangerous driving thing. 154 00:08:58,601 --> 00:09:00,961 1993. 155 00:09:02,121 --> 00:09:04,641 And what year did you become a therapist? 156 00:09:08,241 --> 00:09:10,800 2004. 157 00:09:10,801 --> 00:09:13,000 And they didn't have a problem with that? 158 00:09:13,001 --> 00:09:14,600 Your regulatory body. 159 00:09:14,601 --> 00:09:16,881 They didn't have a problem giving you a licence? 160 00:09:23,601 --> 00:09:25,761 Well, they would've done, yeah. 161 00:09:27,241 --> 00:09:29,720 What do you mean, "they would've done"? 162 00:09:29,721 --> 00:09:33,560 - I don't have a licence. - Yeah, you've got a licence. 163 00:09:33,561 --> 00:09:36,120 It's on your letterhead, Fi. I mean, how else would you practise 164 00:09:36,121 --> 00:09:38,520 if you didn't have a bloody licence? 165 00:09:38,521 --> 00:09:40,281 It's a fake one. 166 00:09:41,601 --> 00:09:43,681 I bought it online for a hundred quid. 167 00:09:45,801 --> 00:09:52,080 My degree is real, my PhD is real, my psychotherapy training is real. 168 00:09:52,081 --> 00:09:55,961 I just... never applied for an actual licence because... 169 00:09:57,601 --> 00:09:59,001 ...I didn't think I'd get one. 170 00:10:00,921 --> 00:10:03,960 So you've been practising fraudulently for 16 years? 171 00:10:03,961 --> 00:10:05,920 Yeah. 172 00:10:05,921 --> 00:10:08,520 - How have you never been... - I always expected to be found out, 173 00:10:08,521 --> 00:10:10,361 but it just... 174 00:10:12,481 --> 00:10:14,881 ...never happened. 175 00:10:15,961 --> 00:10:18,680 - Does Mark know about this? - No. 176 00:10:18,681 --> 00:10:21,880 We have a commercial loan, which we've agreed to pay back 177 00:10:21,881 --> 00:10:24,160 with the income from a job 178 00:10:24,161 --> 00:10:26,601 you're not legally qualified to practise? 179 00:11:02,347 --> 00:11:04,146 Excuse me. 180 00:11:04,148 --> 00:11:08,947 So, the phone mast data gives us Ram Sidhu and Dean Barton 181 00:11:08,948 --> 00:11:11,707 within a mile of each another, 40 miles outside London, 182 00:11:11,708 --> 00:11:14,867 three days after we announced the discovery of Walsh's body. 183 00:11:14,868 --> 00:11:17,747 - Where? - At a... wood just outside Guildford. 184 00:11:17,748 --> 00:11:19,067 - That's really good. - Mm. 185 00:11:19,068 --> 00:11:22,707 And then, one of the boards down by the allotment has given us a guy 186 00:11:22,708 --> 00:11:24,907 who thinks he may have seen something that night, 187 00:11:24,908 --> 00:11:27,107 so we're bringing him in. Right. 188 00:11:27,108 --> 00:11:30,628 And Monty... came up trumps. 189 00:11:33,748 --> 00:11:36,267 It's actually more than you asked for. 190 00:11:36,268 --> 00:11:38,188 I don't want more. 191 00:11:39,308 --> 00:11:41,867 Well, think of it as a backdated pay rise. 192 00:11:41,868 --> 00:11:44,667 I should have listened to you sooner and... 193 00:11:44,668 --> 00:11:47,427 I am truly sorry about that. 194 00:11:47,428 --> 00:11:49,028 BANGING 195 00:11:53,308 --> 00:11:55,667 I would never have actually said anything 196 00:11:55,668 --> 00:11:57,628 because I know she'd just... 197 00:12:00,188 --> 00:12:02,387 I don't think you're a bad person, Liz, 198 00:12:02,388 --> 00:12:04,508 and I shouldn't have said what I did. 199 00:12:10,508 --> 00:12:12,508 You deserved better. 200 00:12:19,147 --> 00:12:21,027 So, this has never felt like a mob attack to me. 201 00:12:21,028 --> 00:12:22,947 - Nor to me. - No wounds on his body, 202 00:12:22,948 --> 00:12:25,308 - kick marks, punch marks. - We also know that three of them 203 00:12:25,309 --> 00:12:28,187 got out of the car separately, with only the women getting out together. 204 00:12:28,188 --> 00:12:30,827 - Yeah, and they're five coppers. - Indeed. 205 00:12:30,828 --> 00:12:32,587 So to me, if this wasn't an accident, 206 00:12:32,588 --> 00:12:34,867 if it was deliberate... 207 00:12:34,868 --> 00:12:37,348 it feels like it was more likely to have been just one of them, 208 00:12:37,349 --> 00:12:39,027 and then the others came across the scene. 209 00:12:39,028 --> 00:12:41,467 Yeah, and then for whatever reason, and this needs work, 210 00:12:41,468 --> 00:12:43,947 cos I struggle to understand why the fuck anyone would, 211 00:12:43,948 --> 00:12:47,148 - but they agreed to cover it up. - Mm. But which one? 212 00:12:48,548 --> 00:12:51,467 So Ram Sidhu has to be the most obvious candidate. 213 00:12:51,468 --> 00:12:53,747 Yeah. 214 00:12:53,748 --> 00:12:56,547 He's got the most obvious grievance, he's a loose cannon. 215 00:12:56,548 --> 00:12:58,707 He got out of the car first. 216 00:12:58,708 --> 00:13:00,827 But let's game the others. 217 00:13:00,828 --> 00:13:04,547 So, Fiona, we now know, was sexually assaulted by this man. 218 00:13:04,548 --> 00:13:07,507 Yeah, but... would a woman stab a man in the head? 219 00:13:07,508 --> 00:13:10,828 If he made easy sexist assumptions, very possibly. 220 00:13:12,028 --> 00:13:14,627 Actually, we don't know what a sexual assault 221 00:13:14,628 --> 00:13:16,867 might have triggered in her, from her own past, I mean. 222 00:13:16,868 --> 00:13:18,588 No, it's a good thought. 223 00:13:20,068 --> 00:13:23,867 - What about Baildon? - So the woman she maybe loved 224 00:13:23,868 --> 00:13:26,307 had been sexually assaulted by Walsh. 225 00:13:26,308 --> 00:13:28,508 Would a woman stab a man in the head, though? 226 00:13:29,788 --> 00:13:31,387 And then... 227 00:13:31,388 --> 00:13:33,708 - there's Barton and Fogerty. - Yeah, and... 228 00:13:35,748 --> 00:13:40,987 ...we have zero on Fogerty, which we really need to address. 229 00:13:40,988 --> 00:13:43,987 And then we have Barton with his criminal family history. 230 00:13:43,988 --> 00:13:47,147 - With associated violence. - No connection to Walsh. 231 00:13:47,148 --> 00:13:49,548 No evidence that he was even in the pub. No. 232 00:13:50,828 --> 00:13:53,987 - We can call Sidhu back in? - Except he'll just deny it. 233 00:13:53,988 --> 00:13:56,507 Not a chance we'll get a confession out of him. 234 00:13:56,508 --> 00:13:59,628 And we don't have enough evidence to charge him, so, no. 235 00:14:00,748 --> 00:14:01,987 SHE SIGHS 236 00:14:01,988 --> 00:14:03,828 So I think the best bet is to divide and rule. 237 00:14:05,868 --> 00:14:08,627 Scare the shit out of all them with what we do know. 238 00:14:08,628 --> 00:14:10,707 Hmm... 239 00:14:10,708 --> 00:14:13,627 Maybe offer them the promise of cooperation deals. 240 00:14:13,628 --> 00:14:16,987 Make them all, individually, think we have more than we have, 241 00:14:16,988 --> 00:14:19,388 so that they then turn against each other. I like it. 242 00:14:21,148 --> 00:14:23,547 We already have... 243 00:14:23,548 --> 00:14:28,427 Yeah, we've got nice stuff on Baildon and Grayson, er... 244 00:14:28,428 --> 00:14:31,107 But let's get more. I'd love to nail Baildon 245 00:14:31,108 --> 00:14:32,987 with that blood test stuff. 246 00:14:32,988 --> 00:14:35,867 And then we need more on Sidhu and Barton. 247 00:14:35,868 --> 00:14:37,948 I mean, stuff like the phone masts... 248 00:14:39,348 --> 00:14:42,267 ...that suggests collusion, that proves they're lying to us, 249 00:14:42,268 --> 00:14:43,668 and it allows us to ask why. 250 00:14:44,788 --> 00:14:48,547 So let's get authority to view Sidhu's disciplinary record 251 00:14:48,548 --> 00:14:50,147 and go through it with a fine tooth comb 252 00:14:50,148 --> 00:14:53,627 to see if he has a capacity for violence. Similarly with Barton. 253 00:14:53,628 --> 00:14:55,907 He's a lad from a... 254 00:14:55,908 --> 00:14:58,867 family of career criminals who decides to join the police, 255 00:14:58,868 --> 00:15:02,907 what's the story there? Let's try to speak to his family. 256 00:15:02,908 --> 00:15:05,307 I also think we should go after bank accounts as well. 257 00:15:05,308 --> 00:15:08,467 Fiona may not be the only one asking favours from old academy friends. 258 00:15:08,468 --> 00:15:11,027 Mm. And let's dig more on Fogerty. 259 00:15:11,028 --> 00:15:13,587 Because unless there's something fabulously incriminating 260 00:15:13,588 --> 00:15:15,227 about the murder weapon, if I was them, 261 00:15:15,228 --> 00:15:18,027 and I was forced by weight of evidence to finally admit 262 00:15:18,028 --> 00:15:19,948 that, yes, I was there that night... 263 00:15:21,988 --> 00:15:24,348 .who am I then gonna blame for the actual murder? 264 00:15:25,788 --> 00:15:27,827 The dead guy with the body in his house. 265 00:15:27,828 --> 00:15:30,747 The dead guy with the body in his house. 266 00:15:30,748 --> 00:15:32,148 Yeah. 267 00:15:39,548 --> 00:15:41,587 That's my birthday, that date. 268 00:15:41,588 --> 00:15:44,867 And that year was my 40th, so I remember that night well. 269 00:15:44,868 --> 00:15:48,267 I'd had a few with my wife to celebrate, 270 00:15:48,268 --> 00:15:50,267 and then I took the dog out. 271 00:15:50,268 --> 00:15:53,707 And it was next to the allotments that I saw them. 272 00:15:53,708 --> 00:15:57,307 This was by the entrance, before they stuck the gates up. 273 00:15:57,308 --> 00:15:59,027 How many of them, do you remember? 274 00:15:59,028 --> 00:16:03,667 Well, two... carrying it, whatever it was, 275 00:16:03,668 --> 00:16:06,147 wrapped up in tarp. 276 00:16:06,148 --> 00:16:08,508 Maybe one opening the boot. 277 00:16:10,428 --> 00:16:14,547 Couldn't swear to that, though. But then definitely two arguing. 278 00:16:14,548 --> 00:16:16,387 Arguing? 279 00:16:16,388 --> 00:16:19,867 - A woman and a man, she was crying. - Right. 280 00:16:19,868 --> 00:16:22,908 - Did you hear anything they said? - No. 281 00:16:24,108 --> 00:16:25,828 Oh. Did you say anything? 282 00:16:27,388 --> 00:16:30,228 I said, "What you got there, a dead body?" 283 00:16:42,668 --> 00:16:44,588 Oh, there you are. 284 00:16:55,828 --> 00:16:57,348 How long have you known? 285 00:16:59,228 --> 00:17:00,628 Known what? 286 00:17:02,668 --> 00:17:04,308 What I told Dad. 287 00:17:11,068 --> 00:17:14,067 He mentioned it just before he died. 288 00:17:14,068 --> 00:17:17,387 I mean, he was babbling all sorts of nonsense at that point, 289 00:17:17,388 --> 00:17:20,508 so I didn't take it remotely seriously. 290 00:17:23,068 --> 00:17:24,987 Clearly I was wrong. 291 00:17:24,988 --> 00:17:26,307 SHE SNIFFS 292 00:17:26,308 --> 00:17:29,587 I have to say, Elizabeth, my estimation of you 293 00:17:29,588 --> 00:17:32,227 has gone up enormously. 294 00:17:32,228 --> 00:17:35,508 You're in danger of almost being interesting. 295 00:17:40,428 --> 00:17:42,388 I am who I am, Mum. 296 00:17:43,548 --> 00:17:47,508 I've always been... pretty happy with that. 297 00:17:49,988 --> 00:17:51,588 I've made mistakes. 298 00:17:53,228 --> 00:17:57,067 One dreadful one. My God, I'd have loathed to have lived 299 00:17:57,068 --> 00:18:02,107 a life like yours. To have been a person who's... 300 00:18:02,108 --> 00:18:05,467 never even contemplated helping others, 301 00:18:05,468 --> 00:18:10,387 who's never even considered trying to make the world a better place. 302 00:18:10,388 --> 00:18:12,707 You're beginning to sound like a Michael Jackson song... 303 00:18:12,708 --> 00:18:14,708 Shut the fuck up! 304 00:18:23,348 --> 00:18:25,748 I don't expect love from you. 305 00:18:26,868 --> 00:18:29,947 You've only ever loved yourself. 306 00:18:29,948 --> 00:18:33,067 But you will speak to me with respect from now on. 307 00:18:33,068 --> 00:18:34,988 Or... I swear... 308 00:18:36,148 --> 00:18:39,947 ...I swear... I will come in here while you're sleeping 309 00:18:39,948 --> 00:18:44,587 and I will stick a pillow over your smug, self-satisfied face, 310 00:18:44,588 --> 00:18:46,508 until you are quiet. 311 00:19:17,348 --> 00:19:18,428 Mrs Quinn? 312 00:19:19,668 --> 00:19:22,987 Liam and Sean don't live 'ere, haven't done for years. 313 00:19:22,988 --> 00:19:25,308 It was actually Dean we came about. 314 00:19:26,628 --> 00:19:30,748 What could I tell you about Dean? I ain't seen him for 30 years. 315 00:19:38,988 --> 00:19:42,067 My husband's dead now... 316 00:19:42,068 --> 00:19:45,347 but in his world, the notion of crossing that line, 317 00:19:45,348 --> 00:19:49,027 becoming a copper, that was as bad as it got. 318 00:19:49,028 --> 00:19:50,508 So when he found out... 319 00:19:51,908 --> 00:19:54,387 ...it was awful. 320 00:19:54,388 --> 00:19:56,907 Worse even than Dean expected, I think. 321 00:19:56,908 --> 00:20:00,067 That night, he went down the local, 322 00:20:00,068 --> 00:20:02,307 where they'd known him since he was a kid, 323 00:20:02,308 --> 00:20:04,308 and they wouldn't let him in. 324 00:20:05,828 --> 00:20:10,067 As he walked away, he was attacked and beaten to pulp, 325 00:20:10,068 --> 00:20:13,707 by two of his brothers, while his father watched. 326 00:20:13,708 --> 00:20:15,468 FRONT DOOR OPENS Mum? 327 00:20:18,908 --> 00:20:20,347 Out, now. 328 00:20:20,348 --> 00:20:22,747 They're going, Sean. Just wait outside. 329 00:20:22,748 --> 00:20:25,108 You shouldn't be fucking talking to them in the first place. 330 00:20:25,109 --> 00:20:26,509 Out-side. 331 00:20:31,708 --> 00:20:33,548 I'll give you one minute. 332 00:20:36,268 --> 00:20:39,187 DOOR OPENS, THEN CLOSES 333 00:20:39,188 --> 00:20:40,467 Has he been happy? 334 00:20:40,468 --> 00:20:42,628 I think so, yeah. 335 00:20:43,628 --> 00:20:45,067 Still old bill? 336 00:20:45,068 --> 00:20:48,028 He left straight after training. 337 00:20:50,068 --> 00:20:51,308 Married? 338 00:20:52,388 --> 00:20:55,708 Yeah. With two children. 339 00:20:57,988 --> 00:21:00,787 Can you tell me where he lives? 340 00:21:00,788 --> 00:21:02,947 I don't think we can do that, I'm afraid. 341 00:21:02,948 --> 00:21:04,428 Please. 342 00:21:06,868 --> 00:21:09,228 I ain't got long. 343 00:21:17,628 --> 00:21:20,707 Not a lot to say, Marn, there are no great secrets. 344 00:21:20,708 --> 00:21:22,908 Calais was a one-off. 345 00:21:24,868 --> 00:21:27,988 It's a debt repaid. It'll never happen again, I promise. 346 00:21:29,108 --> 00:21:30,988 And my family... 347 00:21:32,148 --> 00:21:34,347 ...don't actually know if my mum's alive. 348 00:21:34,348 --> 00:21:36,268 Or my dad. Or my brothers. 349 00:21:38,188 --> 00:21:40,947 But they're not the kind of people I'd want to bring into your life, 350 00:21:40,948 --> 00:21:42,388 or the kids'. 351 00:21:44,748 --> 00:21:47,348 Now, I cannot tell you how much I... 352 00:21:49,028 --> 00:21:50,588 ...hated them and the... 353 00:21:52,348 --> 00:21:55,107 ...the values that they held, that they tried to instil in me. 354 00:21:55,108 --> 00:21:56,508 The person that... 355 00:21:57,868 --> 00:22:00,908 ...they very nearly made me become, in fact. 356 00:22:03,268 --> 00:22:06,948 So it's been a long, hard 30 years... 357 00:22:16,628 --> 00:22:20,348 CHOKING UP: ..trying to distance myself from them. And I... 358 00:22:24,068 --> 00:22:26,587 CRYING: Please, don't... 359 00:22:26,588 --> 00:22:28,188 don't make me go back there. 360 00:22:30,188 --> 00:22:31,428 HE CRIES I'm sorry. 361 00:22:36,588 --> 00:22:39,707 So, Ram Sidhu has twice been accused of using excessive force. 362 00:22:39,708 --> 00:22:42,747 First time was 16 years ago during a row in a shopping centre 363 00:22:42,748 --> 00:22:46,027 with a member of the public, who he alleged racially abused him. 364 00:22:46,028 --> 00:22:48,227 And then the second time was six years ago 365 00:22:48,228 --> 00:22:50,147 with a fellow officer, who he claims 366 00:22:50,148 --> 00:22:51,987 used a racial slur against him. 367 00:22:51,988 --> 00:22:54,587 On both occasions, he was cleared, but on both occasions, 368 00:22:54,588 --> 00:22:57,627 witnesses describe the violence as "coming out of nowhere". 369 00:22:57,628 --> 00:23:01,267 And one described him as going from 0 to 60 in under a second. 370 00:23:01,268 --> 00:23:03,027 Fran, Rob Fogerty? 371 00:23:03,028 --> 00:23:05,667 Er, yeah. Erm... rather sad man. 372 00:23:05,668 --> 00:23:07,467 Worked a variety of fairly dead-end jobs 373 00:23:07,468 --> 00:23:10,667 after leaving the force. Did these until about ten years ago 374 00:23:10,668 --> 00:23:13,827 when his drinking stopped him from being able to hold down a job. 375 00:23:13,828 --> 00:23:17,507 He then lived on benefits and inherited money from his dad. 376 00:23:17,508 --> 00:23:20,667 I managed to track down a teacher at his old secondary school, 377 00:23:20,668 --> 00:23:22,747 who described him as a very sweet boy, 378 00:23:22,748 --> 00:23:24,747 but one who struggled academically 379 00:23:24,748 --> 00:23:27,107 and one who was also very easily led. 380 00:23:27,108 --> 00:23:30,267 - And Jake. - So, I can't conclusively prove 381 00:23:30,268 --> 00:23:32,267 that Baildon deliberately lost the bloods, 382 00:23:32,268 --> 00:23:34,467 but I can prove that she was on custody duty 383 00:23:34,468 --> 00:23:36,667 the night the vials went missing from the fridge. 384 00:23:36,668 --> 00:23:39,387 I can also prove that she volunteered for overtime that night. 385 00:23:39,388 --> 00:23:44,187 So I think we have enough on Grayson and Baildon right now. 386 00:23:44,188 --> 00:23:46,707 Let's give 'em a tug and put them under some pressure. 387 00:23:46,708 --> 00:23:50,227 And, Fran, so the fourth Quinn brother is dead, 388 00:23:50,228 --> 00:23:51,667 I'd like to know how and when. 389 00:23:51,668 --> 00:23:54,508 It might be nothing, but have a dig. Thank you, guys. 390 00:24:01,433 --> 00:24:04,860 Need you downstairs, please, kids. House talk. 391 00:24:07,593 --> 00:24:09,473 House talk, please. 392 00:24:14,033 --> 00:24:16,033 What's going on, Dad? 393 00:24:22,763 --> 00:24:25,122 So, the question is... 394 00:24:25,123 --> 00:24:28,642 looking ahead to year end '21, what impact will that overspend 395 00:24:28,643 --> 00:24:30,002 have on rural services? 396 00:24:30,003 --> 00:24:32,323 If you could turn to page 14... 397 00:24:39,403 --> 00:24:42,122 One more thing... 398 00:24:42,123 --> 00:24:43,643 Sir... 399 00:24:44,923 --> 00:24:48,002 ...I'm afraid I need to withdraw my candidacy. 400 00:24:48,003 --> 00:24:51,123 - What, sorry, wh...? - I just want to say... 401 00:24:52,363 --> 00:24:55,042 ...I am deeply sorry if I've caused you any embarrassment. 402 00:24:55,043 --> 00:24:58,202 Liz, I'm sorry, I've got absolutely no idea... 403 00:24:58,203 --> 00:24:59,602 KNOCK ON DOOR 404 00:24:59,603 --> 00:25:02,962 So sorry to interrupt, sir, but there are two officers here 405 00:25:02,963 --> 00:25:06,883 who need to speak to DCC Baildon. They've said it's fairly urgent. 406 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:21,398 So your dad and I have been talking, and I need to tell you some things 407 00:25:21,399 --> 00:25:24,919 about myself and my past. 408 00:25:26,399 --> 00:25:28,399 OK. First up, erm... 409 00:25:29,679 --> 00:25:32,798 ...my dad didn't die when I was a baby. 410 00:25:32,799 --> 00:25:35,318 I wasn't brought up by foster parents. 411 00:25:35,319 --> 00:25:37,519 He died when I was 20. 412 00:25:39,159 --> 00:25:41,598 And one of the reasons I lied about this 413 00:25:41,599 --> 00:25:46,558 was because on his gravestone, it says "A copper's copper”, 414 00:25:46,559 --> 00:25:49,998 and I didn't want anyone to know that he was a copper, 415 00:25:49,999 --> 00:25:53,158 as was his dad before him. And here's the thing, 416 00:25:53,159 --> 00:25:56,918 for a brief period of time, as was I. 417 00:25:56,919 --> 00:26:00,518 And I tell you this because it starts to explain 418 00:26:00,519 --> 00:26:03,918 a part of my life about which I am deeply ashamed, 419 00:26:03,919 --> 00:26:07,478 - and which I also lied about... - KNOCK ON DOOR 420 00:26:07,479 --> 00:26:10,479 - Shall I get the door, Dad? - No, no, no, leave the door. 421 00:26:11,679 --> 00:26:16,398 So, kids, I did not want to be a policewoman. 422 00:26:16,399 --> 00:26:19,198 It had always seemed a limiting and backward world to me, 423 00:26:19,199 --> 00:26:21,398 but to say that to my dad felt like it would... 424 00:26:21,399 --> 00:26:25,638 ridicule the path he and my grandad had followed, so I lied. 425 00:26:25,639 --> 00:26:30,398 I lied to myself, and I lied to him, which was a stupid thing to do. 426 00:26:30,399 --> 00:26:33,318 KNOCK ON DOOR This is funny, erm... 427 00:26:33,319 --> 00:26:35,918 He actually died 18 months after I qualified, 428 00:26:35,919 --> 00:26:37,558 and I found out from his diaries 429 00:26:37,559 --> 00:26:39,958 that he hadn't wanted to be a police officer, either. 430 00:26:39,959 --> 00:26:41,758 - He'd done it to please his dad. - KNOCK ON DOOR 431 00:26:41,759 --> 00:26:43,398 So there's an irony there, isn't there? 432 00:26:43,399 --> 00:26:45,359 - Fiona, can you stop, please? - So in order to... 433 00:26:45,360 --> 00:26:48,278 bury the unhappiness at where I found myself, 434 00:26:48,279 --> 00:26:52,678 I started drinking, a lot, and was in fact an alcoholic 435 00:26:52,679 --> 00:26:54,678 for many, many years, kids. 436 00:26:54,679 --> 00:26:58,118 I also became very depressed, 437 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:00,318 and on two occasions, I tried to kill myself. 438 00:27:00,319 --> 00:27:04,278 I also, during this time, I made many, many mistakes, 439 00:27:04,279 --> 00:27:07,238 one of which I told your father about the other night, 440 00:27:07,239 --> 00:27:09,718 and which I need to tell you about, too. So... 441 00:27:09,719 --> 00:27:12,878 in 1993, I killed a child in a car crash, 442 00:27:12,879 --> 00:27:16,078 which is just dreadful, but worse than that, I... 443 00:27:16,079 --> 00:27:17,518 - Fiona Grayson. - Yes? 444 00:27:17,519 --> 00:27:20,958 I need you to come with us, please, Fiona. I'm talking to my kids. 445 00:27:20,959 --> 00:27:23,399 I can see that, but I don't think you want me to do this here. 446 00:27:25,959 --> 00:27:28,198 You've come about the body, haven't you? 447 00:27:28,199 --> 00:27:29,679 HE GASPS 448 00:27:36,319 --> 00:27:39,518 Three weeks prior to the night he disappeared, 449 00:27:39,519 --> 00:27:43,438 Matthew Walsh sexually assaulted Fiona Grayson 450 00:27:43,439 --> 00:27:46,398 at the Ifield pub in Hendon. 451 00:27:46,399 --> 00:27:48,478 Ram Sidhu then got into a fight with him 452 00:27:48,479 --> 00:27:50,158 and we believe you were there. 453 00:27:50,159 --> 00:27:52,358 Well, what evidence do you have for that? 454 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,878 Well, let's maybe come back to that later. For now, 455 00:27:54,879 --> 00:27:57,479 I'd like to stick with the events of the night he disappeared. 456 00:27:58,519 --> 00:28:00,718 Because I think you did get out of the car, 457 00:28:00,719 --> 00:28:04,958 following Ram spotting Walsh, and then him deciding 458 00:28:04,959 --> 00:28:07,438 that maybe "a bit of a chat" was in order. 459 00:28:07,439 --> 00:28:09,638 - Nope. - I think a few minutes later, 460 00:28:09,639 --> 00:28:11,158 you found yourself on Marshfield Lane, 461 00:28:11,159 --> 00:28:13,358 - by the allotments. - No. 462 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:15,358 Where I think Matthew Walsh died. 463 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:18,118 Again, what evidence do you have for that? 464 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:23,678 Actually, we've just found a witness who saw a number of people 465 00:28:23,679 --> 00:28:26,798 loading something into a car down by the allotments 466 00:28:26,799 --> 00:28:28,678 at about the right time. 467 00:28:28,679 --> 00:28:31,198 Again, that sort of testimony is not going to be taken 468 00:28:31,199 --> 00:28:32,879 very seriously, I'm afraid. 469 00:28:34,159 --> 00:28:37,039 I would have expected better of you than this, DC Stuart. 470 00:28:43,159 --> 00:28:45,878 Fiona Grayson. 471 00:28:45,879 --> 00:28:48,038 When was the last time you saw her? 472 00:28:48,039 --> 00:28:51,079 Fiona? Erm... 473 00:28:52,319 --> 00:28:55,598 .when we left Hendon, I guess. 474 00:28:55,599 --> 00:28:59,238 Right. What about when you lived together in Thames Ditton, 475 00:28:59,239 --> 00:29:01,519 when you were stationed at Kingston nick? 476 00:29:04,439 --> 00:29:08,279 - I'm sorry, I meant since then. - So you just lied to me. 477 00:29:10,719 --> 00:29:12,599 I'm actually finding this quite stressful... 478 00:29:13,799 --> 00:29:17,279 ...and I'm not thinking... very... 479 00:29:19,679 --> 00:29:23,998 To be clear, I haven't seen her since we shared a flat 480 00:29:23,999 --> 00:29:26,919 26 or 27 years ago. 481 00:29:28,759 --> 00:29:30,838 So, were you in a relationship with her? 482 00:29:30,839 --> 00:29:33,238 On/off, yes. 483 00:29:33,239 --> 00:29:36,878 But you never mentioned any of this when we first met. 484 00:29:36,879 --> 00:29:39,158 On that occasion, too... 485 00:29:39,159 --> 00:29:43,158 you said that you'd not seen any of them, bar Ram Sidhu, 486 00:29:43,159 --> 00:29:45,439 - since you left Hendon. - Apologies, that was an error. 487 00:29:48,519 --> 00:29:51,599 Would have expected better of you, Deputy Chief Constable Baildon. 488 00:29:55,119 --> 00:29:58,678 So I want, if I may, to ask you about an incident 489 00:29:58,679 --> 00:30:03,558 on the 17th July 1993. 490 00:30:03,559 --> 00:30:06,439 Does that date ring any bells for you? 491 00:30:07,919 --> 00:30:09,439 Nope. 492 00:30:11,599 --> 00:30:15,918 It was the day your girlfriend was involved in an RTC 493 00:30:15,919 --> 00:30:18,118 in which a young child died. 494 00:30:18,119 --> 00:30:20,719 I presume you remember that? 495 00:30:22,519 --> 00:30:26,158 Actually, we'd been separated for a year or so before that. 496 00:30:26,159 --> 00:30:27,878 Oh, OK. 497 00:30:27,879 --> 00:30:29,518 Well, I'm glad you've told me that, 498 00:30:29,519 --> 00:30:32,078 because that really does make me wonder why you did it. 499 00:30:32,079 --> 00:30:36,158 - Did what? - Deliberately lost the blood samples taken from her. 500 00:30:36,159 --> 00:30:38,558 I don't know what you're talking about. 501 00:30:38,559 --> 00:30:40,358 The blood samples that would've confirmed 502 00:30:40,359 --> 00:30:43,758 what the arresting officer suspected - that she was over the limit. 503 00:30:43,759 --> 00:30:45,718 Sorry, didn't happen. 504 00:30:45,719 --> 00:30:47,878 SHE SIGHS IN EXASPERATION 505 00:30:47,879 --> 00:30:51,759 OK, let me tell you where I'm going with this, Deputy Chief Constable. 506 00:30:56,399 --> 00:31:03,438 There's lots... that we don't know about what happened that night. 507 00:31:03,439 --> 00:31:06,878 We don't know yet if Walsh's death was an accident, 508 00:31:06,879 --> 00:31:10,118 or a more deliberate act. And if it was deliberate, 509 00:31:10,119 --> 00:31:14,039 if it was committed by just one of you, or more. 510 00:31:16,319 --> 00:31:20,558 But one thing... we are completely sure about 511 00:31:20,559 --> 00:31:24,118 is that Matthew Walsh died that night, 512 00:31:24,119 --> 00:31:27,558 as a result of some sort of engagement with the five people 513 00:31:27,559 --> 00:31:30,918 in that car. And that you then ALL... 514 00:31:30,919 --> 00:31:33,999 colluded to hide that fact. 515 00:31:34,999 --> 00:31:36,679 And indeed his body. 516 00:31:38,119 --> 00:31:40,959 So, the real question now... 517 00:31:42,919 --> 00:31:46,318 ...is who's gonna be the first to admit that and gain advantage 518 00:31:46,319 --> 00:31:48,799 from their cooperation when they're sentenced? 519 00:31:52,799 --> 00:31:55,119 So, bearing that in mind... 520 00:31:57,279 --> 00:32:01,239 ...is there anything you would like to tell us, DCC Baildon? 521 00:32:05,759 --> 00:32:07,279 No comment. 522 00:32:08,599 --> 00:32:10,079 RASPY BREATHING 523 00:32:22,079 --> 00:32:25,758 So, our object, it's not a rod or a spike from the wall, 524 00:32:25,759 --> 00:32:28,918 it's actually what I suspected it was when I first cleaned it up. 525 00:32:28,919 --> 00:32:31,358 - It's a pen. - A what? 526 00:32:31,359 --> 00:32:33,638 A fountain pen, gold-tipped nib. 527 00:32:33,639 --> 00:32:35,759 Quite a lethal weapon if you wanted it to be. 528 00:32:36,999 --> 00:32:39,918 OK, I need to see this. I've got one more interview to do, 529 00:32:39,919 --> 00:32:41,438 and then I'll come straight over. 530 00:32:41,439 --> 00:32:44,158 But this means he definitely was stabbed, yes? 531 00:32:44,159 --> 00:32:48,198 I guess it could have been inserted postmortem, but why? 532 00:32:48,199 --> 00:32:50,719 CELL DOOR OPENS I'll call you back. 533 00:32:52,799 --> 00:32:55,359 OK, so, first up, Fiona, how about I tell you what we know? 534 00:32:56,359 --> 00:32:58,519 So, we know about the pub. 535 00:32:59,839 --> 00:33:02,518 We know that Matthew Walsh sexually assaulted you. 536 00:33:02,519 --> 00:33:06,158 And we know that Ram Sidhu then got into a fight with Matthew 537 00:33:06,159 --> 00:33:10,398 because of that. And we know Liz Baildon was there, too. 538 00:33:10,399 --> 00:33:14,398 We also know about your RTC... three years later. 539 00:33:14,399 --> 00:33:17,198 And we suspect that Liz then contrived 540 00:33:17,199 --> 00:33:19,278 to lose your blood samples. 541 00:33:19,279 --> 00:33:22,838 Given that you two weren't in a relationship at that point, 542 00:33:22,839 --> 00:33:26,678 we then have to ask... why she'd do such a thing. 543 00:33:26,679 --> 00:33:28,758 And we have to conclude... 544 00:33:28,759 --> 00:33:32,519 that you used the events of March 30th 1990 as leverage. 545 00:33:36,759 --> 00:33:39,318 So that's what we know. 546 00:33:39,319 --> 00:33:42,318 I don't think any of this is a surprise to you. 547 00:33:42,319 --> 00:33:45,719 But I'm guessing that what I'm going to tell you next might be. 548 00:33:47,039 --> 00:33:49,319 Matthew Walsh, we now suspect... 549 00:33:51,239 --> 00:33:54,119 - ...died of a stab wound... - No. 550 00:33:55,599 --> 00:33:57,399 - ...to the head. - No. 551 00:33:58,439 --> 00:34:00,159 Unless you know different? 552 00:34:01,319 --> 00:34:05,919 He was never stabbed, I promise. It was an accident. 553 00:34:07,319 --> 00:34:09,158 He told us it was an accident. 554 00:34:09,159 --> 00:34:10,999 - Who? - Ram. 555 00:34:12,959 --> 00:34:15,759 He said that Walsh had tripped and hit his head. 556 00:34:17,119 --> 00:34:19,279 He said it was an accident. 557 00:34:28,348 --> 00:34:30,067 Ooh, and he scores! 558 00:34:30,068 --> 00:34:34,307 England are through to the World Cup final! 559 00:34:34,308 --> 00:34:36,028 HE LAUGHS 560 00:34:37,108 --> 00:34:39,948 There's a woman at the door. She says she's your mum. 561 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:50,199 And we were driving through 562 00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:53,599 some shitty suburb, south of Hendon... 563 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:56,040 when Ram saw him. 564 00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:01,599 Just standing there on a patch of grass on the other side of the road. 565 00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:04,999 And he yelled at Rob to pull over, and it was him. 566 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,080 The lad who'd put his hand up my skirt... 567 00:35:08,720 --> 00:35:11,519 ...who'd given Ram a pasting. 568 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:13,200 No doubt, it was him. 569 00:35:14,240 --> 00:35:18,279 And Ram said we should search him 570 00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,119 because he was bound to have gear on him. 571 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:23,479 And just have a bit of fun with him, give him a bit of a scare. 572 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:27,599 And me and Liz kept saying no, telling Ram he was drunk 573 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:28,960 and behaving like an idiot. 574 00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:34,039 And then... Ram looked at Rob, 575 00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:36,839 and they both grin... 576 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:40,759 and then suddenly, he gets out the car, before we can stop him, 577 00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:44,479 and shouting over at Walsh, who sees who it is, 578 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:46,359 and then just pegs it. 579 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:49,039 And Rob's pissing himself laughing, 580 00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:52,159 and we're saying, "Stay in the fucking car, stay in the car." 581 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:55,479 And then he's getting out the car and running after them both. 582 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:58,800 So then it's just me and Lizzie and Dean. 583 00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:02,760 And Dean is really, really quiet. 584 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:07,319 And then he said something like, he'd better go and stop them 585 00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:09,799 doing anything stupid. 586 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,000 And then he gets out. 587 00:36:13,720 --> 00:36:17,799 And he walks, he doesn't run. 588 00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,559 And me and Lizzie, we just stayed where we were, 589 00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:24,960 waiting for them to come back, we were fairly terrified, for ages. 590 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:32,079 And then eventually... 591 00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:35,119 Liz said that we should go and try and find them as well. 592 00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:39,080 Er... we got out and... 593 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,480 ...we walked for about 15 minutes... 594 00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,360 ...eventually splitting up to find them. 595 00:36:49,720 --> 00:36:52,279 And then I just turned a corner... 596 00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:55,319 and there was Ram and Rob. 597 00:36:55,320 --> 00:37:00,480 They were in this, er, allotment behind this low wall... 598 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:05,599 ...and it was dark, so I couldn't really see 599 00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:07,440 what was happening at first... 600 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:13,479 ...but as I got closer, I saw the lad... 601 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:18,320 was on his back... with a wound on his head. 602 00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:23,400 And... 603 00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:29,840 ...Ram was next to him, giving him CPR. 604 00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:33,880 CRYING: Oh, God. 605 00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:41,519 And as he was doing it, he just kept saying over and over 606 00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:43,920 that he didn't do anything, he just found him like that. 607 00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,039 And then somebody said that we should... 608 00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,120 knock on a door and call for an ambulance. 609 00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:55,880 And then Ram said no... 610 00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:00,880 ...because he was already gone... 611 00:38:04,720 --> 00:38:06,680 ...he was already dead. 612 00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:11,439 - There you go. - Shukriya, bachche. 613 00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:13,040 One for you. 614 00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:28,120 Just look at me, Dad. 615 00:38:33,720 --> 00:38:35,280 Just once. 616 00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:38,320 That's all I want. 617 00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:43,360 Then maybe I can stop all this shit. 618 00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:48,280 The money, the job, the lot. 619 00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:57,600 LAUGHING: Just look at me. 620 00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:13,319 And I've gone over it 100,000 times since and... 621 00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:17,399 y'know, there was a logic to it, of course. He was dead... 622 00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:20,800 there was nothing anyone could do to help, it was just an accident. 623 00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:24,080 But in here... 624 00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:28,200 ...I know we should have called for help. 625 00:39:30,240 --> 00:39:31,760 I've always known. 626 00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,799 And so, who then... 627 00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:37,680 suggested you take him? 628 00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:42,559 Ram. He knew they might trace it back to him 629 00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:45,239 because of the fight in the Ifield. 630 00:39:45,240 --> 00:39:48,160 And he thought he might have left clothing fibres... 631 00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:52,119 ...on the lad's body, so... 632 00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:55,560 This thing changed my entire life. This... 633 00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:59,400 ...horrific decision I went along with. 634 00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:05,240 It happened in a moment. One minute, my life was normal... 635 00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:09,960 Normal. And the next... 636 00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:13,719 ...it was... 637 00:40:13,720 --> 00:40:16,400 what it became, the life I ended up living. 638 00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:21,360 So once you decided... 639 00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:25,280 - ...Rob went and got the car? - Yeah. 640 00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:30,199 And then you all... 641 00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:33,079 - helped put him in? - I didn't. 642 00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:36,120 I was in too much of a state. But the others did, yeah. 643 00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:42,799 And then Rob's hands were shaking so much that, erm, Ram gave him 644 00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:45,799 a couple of swigs from a bottle of whiskey that he had with him. 645 00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:49,959 Which is why he was over the limit. 646 00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,560 And Rob was meant to get rid of the body? 647 00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:56,200 He kind of hero worshipped Ram. 648 00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:02,120 And Ram convinced him he was the best placed. 649 00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,880 And, of course, we all thought he had got rid of it. 650 00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:12,280 I thought it was an accident. 651 00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:16,400 Otherwise, I would never have covered it up. 652 00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:21,680 We all thought it was an accident. 653 00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:25,720 SHE CRIES 654 00:41:30,240 --> 00:41:33,039 I'm not expecting forgiveness. I'm not expecting love, 655 00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:34,520 or a relationship. 656 00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:39,040 I ain't come here expecting anything. 657 00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:45,599 I just want you... 658 00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:47,200 my son... 659 00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:52,400 ...to know, before I die, that I love you. 660 00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:56,960 I always have. 661 00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:03,800 And I'm sorry. 662 00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:11,600 How long do you have? 663 00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:17,519 So she's telling the truth, her truth, 664 00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:19,839 she thought that was what happened. 665 00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:21,239 Or she knew he was stabbed 666 00:42:21,240 --> 00:42:23,559 and this is all a carefully calculated lie 667 00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:26,679 - to minimise her culpability. - Or she did it. 668 00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:28,759 Nah, she didn't do it. 669 00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:31,159 And she didn't know he was stabbed, either. 670 00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:34,959 Unless she's the best liar in the world. 671 00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:36,520 Which I don't buy. 672 00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:40,480 So, who did do it? 673 00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:48,319 OK, it's late, I'm gonna nip over to the mortuary. 674 00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:49,999 Let's discuss further tomorrow. 675 00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:53,039 - You're gonna go now? - Mm. 676 00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:55,840 Do you wanna charge either of them with anything? No. 677 00:42:57,240 --> 00:42:59,479 RUI them both for now. 678 00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:01,520 Let's see where we get to tomorrow. 679 00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:04,240 Hey, boss... 680 00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:08,480 ...we're getting there. 681 00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:23,680 Hey, Dad. Me again. 682 00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:28,039 Listen, maybe I'm not gonna get to speak to you today... 683 00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:29,440 so I just wanna say... 684 00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:33,800 Ram? 685 00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:50,759 And then after I called you, 686 00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:53,159 I went online and checked a few details of pens 687 00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:57,119 this shape and design and... I think it is a Cigne. 688 00:43:57,120 --> 00:44:00,119 And if it is, they've got serial numbers on the nib body, 689 00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:02,359 which might be visible under the right light, 690 00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:06,479 and might give you the name of the purchaser. Wow. 691 00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:08,320 That's... brilliant. 692 00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:12,919 I will sort that tomorrow. 693 00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:15,840 Go home, you look knackered. 694 00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:21,200 - You are a stone cold genius, Leanne. - Yeah. This, er, this much is true. 695 00:44:22,240 --> 00:44:24,719 TW get that picked up first thing. 696 00:44:24,720 --> 00:44:26,479 Thank you again. Night, Cass. 697 00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:27,600 Night. 698 00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:29,040 Come on, Dad. 55672

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