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They had the look,
they had that power.
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They had put it
all together.
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It was a total package.
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The face paint,
the shoulder pads, and...
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jacked to the sky.
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Man, they
trained their asses off.
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I mean, they hit the
ring like badasses.
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We were two badasses
trying to be wrestlers.
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They were wrestlers
trying to be badasses.
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They were just like
the guys in Mad Max.
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I mean, they were meaner
than the guys in Mad Max.
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In the history of
professional wrestling,
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no duo has dominated the
ring like Hawk and Animal:
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The Road Warriors.
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When we'd go to Japan,
they were like Godzilla.
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You look at them and
you went, "Holy shit.
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I hope they don't kill me."
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They were
legitimate tough guys.
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They clawed their
way to the top,
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becoming one of wrestling's
biggest attractions.
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But an unrelenting
lifestyle for one,
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ultimately led to
their downfall.
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He partied hard,
played hard. He lived hard.
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Whoa!
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That switch would flip
after the match, and bam!
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I woke up this morning...
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this is where I felt sick!
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It becomes a way out,
as well as an escape.
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You'll feel like you wanna bedead when we're done with you!
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The road can eat you alive.
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At the age of 46,
Road Warrior, Hawk,
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unexpectedly passed away of
a suspected heart attack.
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I literally cried
like a baby.
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I mean, that was my friend.
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I've been through hell
and back with this guy.
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[growling] What a rush!
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[Narrator] The art of
tag team wrestling
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engages fans in a dynamic,
far more complex way
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than one-on-one matches.
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The greatest tag team duos in history share a 6th sense,
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operating as
two halves of one whole.
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There's no one
without the other.
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And no team proves that more than Mike "Hawk" Hegstrand
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and Joe "Animal" Laurinaitus.
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In an era dominated by
iconic personalities...
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Just what exactly goes throughthe Road Warriors' mind!
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...Whose singles matches
were the star attraction,
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The Road Warriors would break the mold as comic book heroes
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come to life and
post-apocalyptic warriors
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beyond the realms of earth.
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The most important
thing to us
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has always been
beating people up!
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Their larger than life
personas propelled them to
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main event status
around the world,
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winning titles
wherever they went.
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But the price for
success is often high,
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and in this episode,
we reveal the heavy cost
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paid by both men, and how
their wrestling brotherhood
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met its heartbreaking end.
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I think tag team wrestling's
the most interesting part of
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-the wrestling business.
-Tag team wrestling is an art.
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It's a 4-person
athletic dance.
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I'm Road Warrior, Animal,
one half of the greatest
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tag team ever in the history
of professional wrestling,
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The Road Warriors.
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There's more of a story told
with the tag team
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than there is with the single.
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You can't just put two guys
together and make 'em a tag.
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You have to have two guys
that really know each other.
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- [sighs]
- [growls]
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My name is Barry Darsow.
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I was The Repo Man,
and Demolition Smash.
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And, I always thought we
had incredible matches
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with The Road Warriors.
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What made The Road Warriors
successful was that
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they're two guys that
really clicked.
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Everybody believed that
they could beat anybody,
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and they looked incredible.
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I saw the "It".
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These two have
the "It" factor.
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Paul Ellering, Manager
of The Road Warriors
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for 20-something years.
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The Road Warriors, it's a
group that comes along
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once in every generation.
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And they're always copied,
never duplicated.
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Hawk and Animal
are just two,
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no-nonsense badasses.
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Hawk was the
off-the-wall flier guy,
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and Animal was like...
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the buck stops here.
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Most teams had one big guy
and one little guy.
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Here, you got two
fricking monsters.
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They could do
things in the ring that,
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prior to them,
big guys didn't do.
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I'm Nikita Koloff.
Not from Russia,
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although that's what I
portrayed for many years
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in the
wrestling business.
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It was the
chemistry of tag team,
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picking the guy up
on the shoulder,
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coming off the top rope.
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[Paul]
The Doomsday, you know,
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he flew off of the top
turnbuckle and that was
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the ultimate finish in
wrestling for decades.
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They knew what each otherone was thinking all the time.
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But sometimes, Animal knew
more than Hawk as far as...
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what was going on.
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[Nikita] Joe was much morepatient than Mike was. [laughs]
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Again, you hear
some of the stories, right,
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of how Mike would
snap in an instant or
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fly off the handle.
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Oh, yeah, man.
We got along instantly.
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I was like 18 year's old.
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And, I knew of
Mike Hegstrand,
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known as a loose cannon,
tough guy.
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In 1977, Mike Hegstrand and Joe Laurinaitus are two kids
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growing up on the streets
of Northeast Minneapolis,
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a tough,
working-class neighborhood.
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You know, I was...
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at Jesse "The Body"
Ventura's gym.
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And I'm sitting there,
and I'm doing inclines,
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and I got like 315 pounds onthe bar and, all of a sudden,
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in the middle of my set,
I get this, "whack!"
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on my chest.
This big, fat palm print.
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And he goes, [growling]"Laurinaitus, you ain't right.
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You should be lifting
more weights than me".
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That was my meeting
with Mike Hegstrand.
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This is a great
school photo of Mike,
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and he was voted
class bully. [laughs]
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[Producer] Yeah,
you can see it there.
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I think that was,that was staged, but... [laughs]
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Mike's reputation
in school was a scrapper.
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His idea of a good time
was to go beat up someone...
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Just stay away from him,he'll be a great friend to ya...
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But, don't cross him.
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I'm Rich Hegstrand,
Mike's older brother.
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And I'm Dan Hegstrand.
I was...
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4 years younger than Mike.
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Mike was a lost soul
as far as,
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"What am I gonna do,"
and everything.
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And, our mom
had passed away. Ah...
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Come on, bro.
You can do it.
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Ah... But, he obviously
found his way,
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but it was a bit of
a road to get there.
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-He was hyperactive.
-He didn't sit still, you know.
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If he was sitting still, his legwas bouncing up and down, and...
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you know, he was--
he had a lot of energy to...
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lift weights
and punch people.
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Yeah.
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The way we put it is, I'm fromthe other side of the tracks
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and Hawk was pretty
much the toughest guy
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on his side of the tracks,
and I was pretty much
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the toughest guy on
my side of the tracks.
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My name is Scott Norton.
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Professional Wrestler from
Minneapolis, Minnesota.
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I grew up with
Mike Hegstrand,
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known as Hawk.
He was gonna,
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kind of like, mark his
territory in each school,
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so he got into a
little brawl with a guy from
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south high school and
knocked his ass out.
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Got into one with the guy
from north high school,
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knocked him out.
Went to west, same thing.
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And he would
condition himself.
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He would punch
himself in the face,
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and I mean,
it wasn't just a...
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I don't even want to
hit my hand that hard.
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Fractures between
each one of his teeth.
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You know,
basically broke his face.
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Their hard-hitting lifestyle growing up in
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northeast Minneapolis
would serve as a
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training ground for their
careers in the ring.
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And their circle of friends
soon expands to include
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a massively talented roster of future superstars.
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Pretty interesting that
Minneapolis was just a
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mecca of guys who ended
up in the crazy,
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whacky world of
professional wrestling.
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Mr. Perfect Curt Hennig,
The Road Warriors,
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and John Nord, and...
Barry Darsow.
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Ah, Nikita Koloff.
Rick Rude.
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Scott Norton, too,
right around the same time.
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We all knew of each other.
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We got closer as Hawk would
ask me to fill in working at
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this bar, Granmma B's,
down in Minneapolis.
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It's at one of Minneapolis'
toughest bars that
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Joe and Mike get a
chance to cut their teeth.
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Paid the bills and it was
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a perfect outlet for him,
I guess you might say.
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Just 'cause he could beat
up people and
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get paid for it,
you know. [laughs]
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I mean, it was just
like wrestling, so...
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[Joe] I can't mention any names,but the guy that used to
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own the bar we used
to bounce at,
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he dealt in coke and when
someone owed him
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a lot of money,
he'd say, "Hey, man,
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you need to go have a
conversation with this guy."
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I remember one time,
you know,
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Hawk had one leg,
I had one leg of the guy,
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and then we were hanging himover the Franklin Avenue Bridge
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here in Minneapolis
and said, "Listen, man.
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You need to
frigging pay up."
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At Granmma B's, there was a
strip bar in the afternoon.
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And then they'd always have
wet t-shirt contests and
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everything so, I mean,
it brought some of
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the worst of the worst guys.
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Every night,
something happened.
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Lo and behold, the bartender
was Ed Sharkey.
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I had heard of Ed Sharkey
before because he wrestled
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for Verne Gagne in the AWA,
and he comes up to us and
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he goes, "Hey, I'm gonna
do a wrestling school.
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You guys wanna do it?"
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And, we all looked
at each other, said,
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"Ah, man, I don't
know if I want to do that."
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And I'm thinking to myself,
"Well, what can it hurt?"
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My name is Eddie Sharkey.
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I've been in the
wrestling business for,
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well, most of my life.
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Starting on a carnival,
I've been a
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professional wrestler, referee,promoter, trainer.
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I've done just
about everything.
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Eddie ended up having achurch in northeast Minneapolis
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and, he had a
boxing ring downstairs.
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Eddie was a character.
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He'd sit down
there and he'd go,
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"Yeah, guys, good tackle,"
you know,
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"good drop kick,"
or good whatever.
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But Eddie really--
never got out of his chair.
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Well, you know, if I would
leave the room or something,
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I said, "No, don't
try a suplex," or...
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I mean, you know,"You're gonna hurt yourself."
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And, I'd walk out of the
room for whatever reason and
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the one's got the
other up in the air,
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and oh, my goodness.
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Ed never showed us how to
throw what they call today
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a "working punch".
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So, we would literally
back up and go, bam!
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You know, and
punch each other.
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Nose would be broken
and bleeding like crazy.
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[Barry] Eddie never really
smartened us up on exactly
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what was going on until
after a while,
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he says, you know,
"Well, here's what you do."
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Eddie soon realizes that this promising crop of talent
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might have a future
in the squared circle.
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Ole Anderson was a
very, very good wrestler.
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Another Minnesota guy.
And he became a promoter.
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He worked for Ted Turner
so, he was the main guy.
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And, he came up
to Gramma B's.
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[Joe] One night, some guy
was misbehaving and
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I had to escort him out.
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Well, I had one hand behind
his collar and one hand on
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his belt loop, and I threw
him through the front door.
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And, we had this
trip wire outside.
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And, we used to gauge each
other by how many flips
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a guy could do
around this wire.
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And when the guy
gets down flipping,
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he lands right one
Ole Anderson's shoes.
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And alls I did was say,
"Hey, how you doing?"
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Then I turn around,
went back in the bar.
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Next thing you know, Ole
brings me down to Atlanta.
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While Ole recruits Joe to work in his Georgia territory,
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his future tag team
partner has already been
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scouted by
another promotion.
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Mike started first for
Al Tomko, up in Canada.
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Now, you men up there
that are married to some
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good-looking wife, you know,
when your wife takes
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a look at this man,
she's gonna go crazy!
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I went down for Ole Anderson
as The Road Warrior,
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singularly, by myself.
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I looked like a giant versionof The Village People.
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Now, keep in mind, when Joe
broke into the business
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he had got his
girlfriend pregnant.
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And, Joe did
the right thing,
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and by that,
meaning, he got married...
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and, 'cause he wanted to,
you know, raise his child.
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You know, I was sending
all my money that
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I was making back home.
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I was wrestling
9 times a week,
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making $150 total.
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You know, I lost 50 pounds
of body weight.
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I said, "I can't
live off this."
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And Mike's experience wasn't
that great up in Vancouver.
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So, we both came
back to Minnesota.
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I actually could make more
money in one night bouncing
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than I was making
working there in two weeks.
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Ole Anderson came back
into the bar and Ed Sharkey
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showed him a picture that Mikehad taken up in Vancouver.
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Ole thought it was
a picture of me.
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Eddie Sharkey goes, "No,that's not Joe. That's Mike."
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And Ole goes,
"There's two of these guys?"
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[Eddie] "Joe and Mike,
you're a tag team.
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Be in Atlanta next week."
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He goes, "Son of a bitch,"
and then Ole called me up
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and said, "Hey, I want to
bring you guys in
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as The Road Warriors."
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From rough and
tumble beginnings in the
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Minneapolis bar scene, Joe and Mike are about to be
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catapulted into super
stardom and eventually
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towards their own undoing.
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In 1983, Joe Laurinaitis and Mike Hegstrand are recruited
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to wrestle in Georgia, except this time as a tag team.
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They have no idea they're
about revolutionize
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the world of wrestling.
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Hawk, thanks for spending
a few moments with us.
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What got you
started in wrestling?
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I just started watching it
one time and I thought
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if they could, I could do it
better and first time we
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appeared together
on TV, you know,
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we were both real green.
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[Announcer] And The Road
Warriors moving up.
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[Joe] The start of The Road
Warriors on TV was like
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surreal for Hawk and I
because it was like,
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man, here's all these
megastars in
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Georgia Championship Wrestling.
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There's Sergeant Slaughter
and there's Tito Santana,
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and there's Dusty Rhodes,
and I'm going,
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holy crap, there's some
major superstars here.
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And then, here we are,
now we're a part of this.
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Upon their arrival
in the territory,
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matchmaker Ole Anderson
approaches his new tag team
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with a bold, new idea.
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[Joe] They actually handed
us the belts when we
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got at the TV station.
They say, "Here's your belt.
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Here's your belt."
And we're going,
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"Where do we say we won 'em?"They said,
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"Ah, say you won 'em in a tagteam tournament in Chicago."
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[Announcer]
From Chicago!
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[Paul] Ole says, "This is gonnabe the new tag team and
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-they're Minnesota boys like you.
-Take care of 'em."
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The names, they both
came up with themselves.
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I think Ole pointed at me, says,"You look like an Animal.
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And then, he said to Hawk,
"You look like--"
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I forget what he said, but Hawksays, "I think I'm a Hawk."
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So, it became
Animal and Hawk.
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After their very
first match together,
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newly crowned champions
Hawk and Animal
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soon join forces
with Paul Ellering.
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He acts as both their on
and off-screen manager,
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leading them to
the big leagues.
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So, I just took 'em
from that day one.
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They jumped in my van,
and that was it.
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[Mike] Paul was, was great at,at fine tuning us.
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You know, he...
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he said go with what your,
your raw strength.
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Go with what you do best.
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We used to sit
there at Denny's,
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and Paul would take the
time to draw on a napkin.
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"Animal, you're here.
Hawk, you're here.
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Throw this guy into this
rope after you make the tag.
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Hawk, you drop down.
Let's incorporate that in."
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We had the motorcycle boots
and everything, you know,
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and that's what
we wore down to the ring.
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After about a month,
Ole goes,
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"Hey, we got an
idea for you guys.
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Remember the heel guy in the
Road Warrior movie that had
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the red mohawk and
the feather in his ear?
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Well, we want you to try and dosomething with the face paint."
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[Paul] And that became an
evolution because the early
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face paint was, you know, like ablack eye or something.
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[Joe] But we were tryingdifferent things at that time to
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try to get a painting of
expressing the way we feel,
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and Mike Hegstrand goes,
"Hey, I got another idea.
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What if Animal shaves his hairinto a mohawk to look like
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the guy in the movie?
I'll shave my head in a
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double mohawk so
when Animal bends over and
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I bend over,
we plug our heads in,
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it looks like one unit."
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[Paul] You know,
that came from Animal.
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That was his idea.
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And, it was genius,
on his part.
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I had a friend of mine
that worked for Honeywell.
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He milled me some spikes.
I said, "Listen, man.
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I need some 6-inch spikes,
I want some 4-inch spikes,
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some 2-inch spikes, and Isat in my garage with my drill
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and I drilled holes
in those shoulder pads."
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Licking my thumb,
like, fricking...
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Picasso, right.
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Then I put some
chains on them,
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and that was the birth ofThe Road Warrior shoulder pads.
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They put 'em on and it was
just frosting on the cake.
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[Scott] And, you know,
the people just ate it up.
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These poor guys
they're working against.
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I mean,
they ran people over.
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Hawk used to apologize to
them in the back:
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"I'm sorry for what's gonna
happen to you, pal,
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but your ass is getting
kicked." [laughs]
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[Paul] They were bad boys,
but when they were bad,
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they were very good.
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[Joe] Man, as long as we stayedaway from the guy's nuts and
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we didn't break their nose
or anything, it was cool.
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But, if you look back, man,
some of those clothes lines
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we hit guys with, guys were
doing natural flips
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we were hittin' 'em so hard.
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As cable was spreading
across the country,
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it was creating
a revolution...
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in the wrestling business.
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Unlike other promotions
in the early 1980s,
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Georgia's World Championship Wrestling enjoys a
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prime-time spot
on Atlanta's TBS,
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the first TV station to be broadcast across the entire USA.
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I told the guys,
I think it was '84.
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I said, "We can
work the whole world.
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We'll just make it
our territory."
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00:17:23,781 --> 00:17:26,611
[Joe] Paul would book us in theAWA or he would book us
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for the Rougeau's, up in Canada.
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Go to Puerto Rico
for Carlos Colon,
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and then go to the NWA.
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And then, you know, we were
going all over the world,
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not tied to any one company.
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[Mike]
Paul's very instrumental in,
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in not letting the promoters
manipulate us.
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We were one of the few tag
teams that were main events
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every night in the arena.
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We never stayed any one
place and it kept us fresh.
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And it was always good
because they bring us in,
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and the place would fill up.
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Everybody in the
business recognized
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that Road Warrior pop.
Just loud.
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I've lost all my hearing.
[laughs]
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Even today, if someone gets
a good cheer going down
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to the match, it's called
The Road Warrior Pop.
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You know, first trip to Japan,we got there,
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we get off the flight...
We gotta do an interview.
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In this room was literally
150 photographers and
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reporters from all over
the country of Japan.
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00:18:28,977 --> 00:18:31,327
They said there was more
reporters there than when
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Michael Jackson
came over to Japan.
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We will fight tonight like wewill never have fought before!
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Well, Japan wanted us and,
the Japanese people
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always like to be scared.
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00:18:44,688 --> 00:18:49,258
You know, we're entertainers
as well as wrestlers.
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00:18:49,302 --> 00:18:51,432
Hey, you guys hungry?
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[Joe] You know, the Japanese
responded to us because
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we were so far
ahead of our time.
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00:18:55,699 --> 00:18:59,179
We were so nothing like
the Japanese wrestlers.
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00:18:59,225 --> 00:19:00,565
We don't care who it is.
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We're gonna stop
everybody in the country.
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I mean, we wrestled
some top guys, man,
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you know, Killer Khan...
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When I pressed Killer Khan,
Japanese people were like,
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00:19:10,279 --> 00:19:12,849
"[speaking Japanese]".
Like, "I can't believe it!"
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00:19:12,890 --> 00:19:18,160
Killer Khan was
6"3, 6"4, 365 pounds.
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I press landed him
over my head. [growls]
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00:19:20,594 --> 00:19:24,164
Then I gorilla slammed
him down.
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00:19:24,206 --> 00:19:25,726
It was national news.
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00:19:25,773 --> 00:19:28,653
[Japanese news coverage]
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00:19:28,689 --> 00:19:32,209
It was no secret that,you know, Mike liked to party.
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Partied hard, ran hard.
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00:19:34,564 --> 00:19:36,444
There was nothing
he was afraid of.
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No situation bothered him.
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Mike got involved
with these people,
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the Japanese
mafia over there.
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They would pick him up and
he would go out to
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dinner with them, and
next thing you know,
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you wouldn't see
him for two days.
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He'd meet Japanese
mafia over there and,
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00:19:49,753 --> 00:19:51,803
he'd tell me about, if you
made a mistake over there,
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they just took a digit
off of your fingers.
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And he'd come homewith just stacks of $100 bills,
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00:19:56,412 --> 00:19:58,412
which he declared.
[laughs]
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I think Joe was more the
guy that would rather,
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you know, go out to
dinner and, go to the room,
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and get some sleep so
you can get up and
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have a great
workout the next day.
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Where Hawk, he was wild,
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he wanted to go out to the bar,he wanted to do this.
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00:20:12,428 --> 00:20:14,428
[JOE] He had no shut off
valve to it, man.
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It was just like...
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go, 100 miles an hour,
all the time.
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That's when it started
hitting a nerve with me.
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โช
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By 1986, The Road Warriors
have become one of the
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top wrestling
attractions in the world.
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To be that good in that
many different territories,
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00:20:37,801 --> 00:20:40,851
it's unprecedented.
My vision was, of course,
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00:20:40,891 --> 00:20:43,291
to make money,
you know, for all of us.
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00:20:43,329 --> 00:20:47,289
This is an opportunity that onlycomes along once in a lifetime.
479
00:20:47,333 --> 00:20:49,643
Everybody out
there watching...
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00:20:49,683 --> 00:20:51,993
we'd like to kick
your teeth in too.
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00:20:52,033 --> 00:20:54,863
My first reaction to seeing
Mike in everything was, wow.
482
00:20:54,905 --> 00:20:57,165
This is... this is amazing.
483
00:20:57,212 --> 00:21:00,172
And I, it just took
you by surprise how,
484
00:21:00,215 --> 00:21:05,085
how far he had come in such ashort period of time, really.
485
00:21:05,133 --> 00:21:08,313
As their popularity grows,
the promotions booking
486
00:21:08,354 --> 00:21:10,664
The Road Warriors realize
they're not just getting a
487
00:21:10,704 --> 00:21:14,404
run of the mill tag team, they're getting rising stars
488
00:21:14,447 --> 00:21:17,487
with a guaranteed
sellout crowd.
489
00:21:17,537 --> 00:21:20,277
The greatest thing about
The Road Warriors is that...
490
00:21:20,322 --> 00:21:22,152
we never had to
change who we were,
491
00:21:22,193 --> 00:21:24,243
whether we were
babyface or heel.
492
00:21:24,283 --> 00:21:28,373
I mean, we were stone cold heelsuntil we wrestled the Koloffs.
493
00:21:28,417 --> 00:21:31,287
Probably some of the best
matches that I remember are
494
00:21:31,333 --> 00:21:33,813
the Russian Chain matches
that we had against them.
495
00:21:33,857 --> 00:21:37,767
And now we're getting USA cheersand cheers from the fans.
496
00:21:37,818 --> 00:21:40,338
We were over so
bad as heels,
497
00:21:40,386 --> 00:21:42,126
it made us great babyfaces.
498
00:21:42,170 --> 00:21:45,350
Your winners of the match,
The Road Warriors!
499
00:21:45,391 --> 00:21:49,741
In early 1986, Carolina-based Jim Crocket Promotions
500
00:21:49,786 --> 00:21:52,346
approaches The
Road Warriors with an offer
501
00:21:52,398 --> 00:21:55,048
to headline their
flagship event.
502
00:21:55,096 --> 00:21:56,576
Dusty Rhodes calls
us and he says,
503
00:21:56,619 --> 00:21:58,359
"Hey, we got this idea."
504
00:21:58,404 --> 00:22:00,934
โช
505
00:22:00,971 --> 00:22:02,541
A scaffold match.
506
00:22:02,582 --> 00:22:05,112
Had never been done
on a national scale.
507
00:22:05,149 --> 00:22:07,979
Man, I was 310 pounds,
315 pounds,
508
00:22:08,022 --> 00:22:09,372
and Hawk was 270.
509
00:22:09,415 --> 00:22:12,155
Then you had bothThe Midnight Express up there.
510
00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:14,070
They were over
200 pounds, each.
511
00:22:14,115 --> 00:22:16,335
About 3 days before
the scaffold match,
512
00:22:16,378 --> 00:22:18,858
Hawk broke a small bone in
the bottom part of his leg,
513
00:22:18,902 --> 00:22:20,692
over in Tokyo.
514
00:22:20,730 --> 00:22:22,910
We were the old school,
the show must go on.
515
00:22:22,950 --> 00:22:26,170
And he wrestled up there
with a broken leg in a boot.
516
00:22:26,214 --> 00:22:28,394
You know, he didn't want to
let the people down 'cause
517
00:22:28,434 --> 00:22:32,224
it was sold out and...
it was a big, big deal.
518
00:22:32,263 --> 00:22:35,013
Well, what you see
in a lot of sports,
519
00:22:35,049 --> 00:22:37,359
and wrestling's
no different, is,
520
00:22:37,399 --> 00:22:40,179
there's injuries and
there's pain,
521
00:22:40,228 --> 00:22:43,268
and you just self-medicate
after a while.
522
00:22:43,318 --> 00:22:45,018
You don't even
go to a doctor.
523
00:22:45,059 --> 00:22:47,449
And then it becomes
a vicious cycle.
524
00:22:47,496 --> 00:22:50,056
And, that's probably
where Hawk was at that time.
525
00:22:56,810 --> 00:23:02,120
It started getting bad latterpart of NWA, WCW run
526
00:23:02,163 --> 00:23:06,693
before we went to WWF.
The drinking's a no brainer.
527
00:23:06,733 --> 00:23:08,213
I mean, that's...
528
00:23:08,256 --> 00:23:10,426
you know, Hawk was straight
up vodka on the rocks guy.
529
00:23:10,476 --> 00:23:12,606
The muscle relaxers
were a big part.
530
00:23:12,652 --> 00:23:16,532
I'll say 85% of the
guys that died early,
531
00:23:16,569 --> 00:23:19,009
in the wrestling business,
the common denominator was
532
00:23:19,049 --> 00:23:20,489
the muscle relaxers.
533
00:23:20,529 --> 00:23:21,749
I think...
534
00:23:21,791 --> 00:23:24,661
Joe was very disappointed
in Hawk and,
535
00:23:24,707 --> 00:23:27,617
he didn't let that
out so people knew it.
536
00:23:27,667 --> 00:23:30,447
But, knowing Joe,
I could see that.
537
00:23:30,496 --> 00:23:32,716
I think it's just
like any marriage,
538
00:23:32,759 --> 00:23:33,979
you know,
which it kind of was,
539
00:23:34,021 --> 00:23:35,591
that I don't think they
always, you know,
540
00:23:35,631 --> 00:23:37,241
saw eye to eye
on everything.
541
00:23:37,285 --> 00:23:39,675
So, I think there was, you know,some friction there at times.
542
00:23:39,722 --> 00:23:43,602
It wasn't until he,
we really got into...
543
00:23:43,639 --> 00:23:48,639
WWF years where it
really started to get bad.
544
00:23:48,688 --> 00:23:51,468
The Road Warriors have conquered the wrestling world
545
00:23:51,517 --> 00:23:53,777
with one
big exception...
546
00:23:53,823 --> 00:23:56,703
and the pressures of
performing in the WWF
547
00:23:56,739 --> 00:24:00,129
will soon set the stage
for their downfall.
548
00:24:00,177 --> 00:24:04,267
The WWF was
always on our screen.
549
00:24:04,312 --> 00:24:07,452
It looked like they were the
place to go in this
550
00:24:07,489 --> 00:24:11,099
wrestling war, if you wanted
to be on the winning side...
551
00:24:11,145 --> 00:24:12,355
And we did.
552
00:24:12,407 --> 00:24:14,707
You're gonna feel the pain
by the hands of
553
00:24:14,757 --> 00:24:16,317
The Legion of Doom!
554
00:24:16,367 --> 00:24:18,847
Vince had just hired
the Modern Day Warrior,
555
00:24:18,892 --> 00:24:22,422
Kerry Von Erich. He already
had the Ultimate Warrior.
556
00:24:22,461 --> 00:24:24,111
And he says, "Hey, I know
you guys have been
557
00:24:24,158 --> 00:24:25,508
The Road Warriors.
Can you think of a
558
00:24:25,551 --> 00:24:28,511
different name that we
could use to call you guys?"
559
00:24:28,554 --> 00:24:31,564
I said, "How about
the Legion of Doom?"
560
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:33,820
"Oh, that's great!
I love The Legion of Doom!
561
00:24:33,863 --> 00:24:35,653
Let's call you guys
The Legion of Doom!"
562
00:24:35,691 --> 00:24:37,951
It was actually He-Man.
563
00:24:37,998 --> 00:24:41,388
The most powerful
man in the universe!
564
00:24:41,436 --> 00:24:43,956
And Hawk would watch
that all the time.
565
00:24:44,004 --> 00:24:45,964
He always watched He-Man.
566
00:24:46,006 --> 00:24:47,436
This was Hawk...
567
00:24:47,486 --> 00:24:50,006
[imitating voice] "Back at
the Legion of Doom!"
568
00:24:50,053 --> 00:24:52,803
And then, he, he'd just
start to make up stories,
569
00:24:52,839 --> 00:24:55,279
and this is while
we're driving in the car.
570
00:24:55,319 --> 00:24:57,409
And he'd just start to
make up that we were
571
00:24:57,452 --> 00:24:58,672
The Legion of Doom.
572
00:24:58,714 --> 00:25:00,544
[cheering]
573
00:25:00,586 --> 00:25:04,366
[Joe] The WWF, on the road atthe time, was a grind.
574
00:25:04,415 --> 00:25:08,765
And you were busy
14 days on, 4 days off,
575
00:25:08,811 --> 00:25:10,421
all year long.
576
00:25:10,465 --> 00:25:12,245
So, it's like your
whole life is no sleep.
577
00:25:12,293 --> 00:25:13,423
But when you get in the ring,
578
00:25:13,468 --> 00:25:15,428
then all of a sudden,
you get an injury.
579
00:25:15,470 --> 00:25:19,390
Well, now there's no sleep,
you have to train.
580
00:25:19,430 --> 00:25:22,350
That injury doesn't go away
and you have to perform.
581
00:25:22,390 --> 00:25:24,480
So now, all of a sudden,
you take a pain pill.
582
00:25:24,523 --> 00:25:26,533
Pretty soon, you're drinking,you're taking pain pills,
583
00:25:26,568 --> 00:25:28,478
you're taking this,
you're taking that.
584
00:25:28,527 --> 00:25:33,267
That's kind of the cycle
that a lot of guys got into.
585
00:25:33,314 --> 00:25:37,754
But now, Hawk's downward spiral is about to intersect
586
00:25:37,797 --> 00:25:40,757
with The Road Warrior's
historic climb to the top,
587
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:43,540
and in front of a
record-setting crowd.
588
00:25:43,585 --> 00:25:45,935
โช
589
00:25:50,549 --> 00:25:53,729
To the non-wrestling fan,
I wrestled for many years
590
00:25:53,769 --> 00:25:55,639
in the WWF.
591
00:25:55,684 --> 00:25:58,954
The Godfather's probablywhat I'm most well known for.
592
00:25:58,992 --> 00:26:01,562
โช
593
00:26:01,603 --> 00:26:03,613
Alright, so...
594
00:26:03,649 --> 00:26:05,429
We're in this club,
and then all of a sudden,
595
00:26:05,476 --> 00:26:09,996
for some reason, Vince decidesto take everybody's finish.
596
00:26:10,046 --> 00:26:13,216
In The Road Warrior's case,
it hurt people.
597
00:26:13,267 --> 00:26:14,747
Have you seen their finish?
598
00:26:14,790 --> 00:26:17,230
I wouldn't take it
in the ring!
599
00:26:17,271 --> 00:26:19,711
And Vince took that
finish in the club.
600
00:26:19,752 --> 00:26:23,322
The CEO of this big,
------- company is taking
601
00:26:23,364 --> 00:26:27,984
people's finishes in a
------- titty bar?
602
00:26:28,021 --> 00:26:29,721
Just, I was like...
603
00:26:29,762 --> 00:26:32,202
โช
604
00:26:32,242 --> 00:26:34,642
Just as The Road Warriors
are reaching new heights at
605
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:38,600
Vince McMahon's WWF,
Hawk's substance abuse
606
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,430
was becoming harder
and harder to hide.
607
00:26:41,469 --> 00:26:44,339
That's when we were starting
to get into the age of doing
608
00:26:44,385 --> 00:26:45,905
the Pay Per Views now.
609
00:26:45,952 --> 00:26:48,082
And now we're doing
the big, huge events,
610
00:26:48,128 --> 00:26:51,348
and everything else so,
there was a lot of respect
611
00:26:51,392 --> 00:26:53,922
and a lot of pride in what
you did for your work 'cause
612
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,350
you wanted to be the guy
that was gonna be top dog
613
00:26:56,397 --> 00:26:57,657
on that Pay Per View.
614
00:26:57,703 --> 00:26:59,573
Those WWF years was
when it started getting
615
00:26:59,618 --> 00:27:01,618
real kind of nasty.
616
00:27:01,663 --> 00:27:03,883
He would fail a drug test
and then there would be
617
00:27:03,926 --> 00:27:05,186
3 months off.
618
00:27:05,232 --> 00:27:06,972
And of course, me being
a tag team partner,
619
00:27:07,016 --> 00:27:08,666
I had to take a few
months off with him.
620
00:27:08,714 --> 00:27:11,894
But Mike, again, he wasn't
shy about, about, you know,
621
00:27:11,934 --> 00:27:13,854
hiding anything.
You know, whether it was...
622
00:27:13,893 --> 00:27:16,203
you know, his drinking
or his, his...
623
00:27:16,243 --> 00:27:18,683
his drug use,
or his steroid use,
624
00:27:18,724 --> 00:27:21,774
he was pretty outspoken
about, about all of it.
625
00:27:21,814 --> 00:27:24,514
As Hawk drifts
closer to the edge,
626
00:27:24,555 --> 00:27:27,425
over 80,000 fans
await their match
627
00:27:27,471 --> 00:27:29,821
at London's Wembley Stadium,
628
00:27:29,865 --> 00:27:32,685
and things are about to
come to a head.
629
00:27:32,738 --> 00:27:35,958
Wembley Stadium was a
classic event 'cause
630
00:27:36,002 --> 00:27:38,792
they had 90,000 people there.
631
00:27:38,831 --> 00:27:40,921
We were supposed to wrestlefor the tag team championship
632
00:27:40,963 --> 00:27:42,493
in Wembley Stadium.
633
00:27:42,530 --> 00:27:44,750
And, getting ready to go out
to the show and
634
00:27:44,793 --> 00:27:46,843
we're doing a run through.
635
00:27:46,882 --> 00:27:49,672
Vince McMahon's trying to
tell us what we're gonna do.
636
00:27:49,711 --> 00:27:53,931
And I could just see where
Vince is fuming 'cause
637
00:27:53,976 --> 00:27:55,886
every time Vince tried
to say something,
638
00:27:55,935 --> 00:28:00,495
Hawk's going, "Now Vince,
I got this idea."
639
00:28:00,548 --> 00:28:04,118
Found out later there was
this thing called placidyls,
640
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:07,250
which is another kind of littlelike a hallucinogenic drug
641
00:28:07,294 --> 00:28:10,254
that Hawk had took it and
it lasts, like, for 6 hours.
642
00:28:10,297 --> 00:28:12,257
And here we are, gotta drivemotorcycles down to the ring.
643
00:28:12,299 --> 00:28:15,389
We went from semi-main event
match against
644
00:28:15,432 --> 00:28:19,052
The Natural Disasters, towrestling Money Incorporated,
645
00:28:19,088 --> 00:28:21,398
I think, their first
or second match.
646
00:28:21,438 --> 00:28:24,308
As Animal watches his
partner step into the ring,
647
00:28:24,354 --> 00:28:28,664
it's clear that Hawk is
in no shape to perform.
648
00:28:28,707 --> 00:28:31,097
Getting in the ring and they
wanted us to do the finish,
649
00:28:31,144 --> 00:28:32,844
the Dooms Day off the
top rope and everything,
650
00:28:32,885 --> 00:28:34,275
and I said, "We can't do it.
651
00:28:34,321 --> 00:28:35,671
He's gonna fall
off the top rope."
652
00:28:35,714 --> 00:28:36,854
And he goes,
"No, no, we gotta."
653
00:28:36,889 --> 00:28:38,369
I said, "Look at him.
He can't do it."
654
00:28:38,412 --> 00:28:39,942
They were watching
him and, you know,
655
00:28:39,979 --> 00:28:43,029
Hawk was kind of
like inebriated, you know,
656
00:28:43,069 --> 00:28:45,989
quite a bit and...
so, we changed the finish.
657
00:28:46,028 --> 00:28:47,458
Hawk's like
right in the middle.
658
00:28:47,508 --> 00:28:49,548
I kind of had to push
him out of the way and...
659
00:28:49,597 --> 00:28:52,987
When Hawk was on,
he was the best, man.
660
00:28:53,035 --> 00:28:54,645
Nobody was better.
661
00:28:54,689 --> 00:28:58,389
But, when he kind of waslike that, it kind of really...
662
00:28:58,432 --> 00:29:00,742
I wasn't very
happy with him.
663
00:29:00,782 --> 00:29:02,392
I knew there was a
suspension coming on,
664
00:29:02,436 --> 00:29:04,606
that I was fricking hot.
665
00:29:04,655 --> 00:29:06,135
[Barry] You know, and it's like,we're gonna spend
666
00:29:06,179 --> 00:29:08,619
millions of dollars on
TV and do all this stuff
667
00:29:08,659 --> 00:29:11,619
for these guys at Wembley,
the biggest show ever,
668
00:29:11,662 --> 00:29:13,322
and if he came
and messed up...
669
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:17,800
Right there, you're not
the top guys anymore.
670
00:29:17,843 --> 00:29:19,893
Irritated by
Hawk's recklessness,
671
00:29:19,932 --> 00:29:24,462
Animal chooses to
go his separate way, alone.
672
00:29:24,501 --> 00:29:27,501
We went to, from that
London taping to
673
00:29:27,548 --> 00:29:29,808
Hershey, Pennsylvania
to do TV.
674
00:29:29,855 --> 00:29:31,415
And when we got to
Hershey, Pennsylvania,
675
00:29:31,465 --> 00:29:33,155
Paul Ellering and I
are ready to do TV,
676
00:29:33,206 --> 00:29:34,636
waiting for Hawk
to do interviews.
677
00:29:34,685 --> 00:29:36,245
Well, Hawk hadn't
shown up yet.
678
00:29:36,296 --> 00:29:37,856
[Paul]
Nobody knew where Hawk went.
679
00:29:38,907 --> 00:29:40,297
Well, he's just not
on the plane.
680
00:29:40,343 --> 00:29:41,873
Nobody knew where Hawk was.
681
00:29:41,910 --> 00:29:45,220
Got a phone call, and Hawk
called Vince's secretary
682
00:29:45,261 --> 00:29:47,831
and said, "Hey, I quit."
We're sitting there, like,
683
00:29:47,873 --> 00:29:50,483
okay, now what am
I gonna do?
684
00:29:50,527 --> 00:29:52,877
Animal decides he's not
gonna chase after
685
00:29:52,921 --> 00:29:54,711
his partner this time...
686
00:29:54,749 --> 00:29:58,969
after performing the role
of fixer for so many years.
687
00:29:59,014 --> 00:30:04,284
I think it just got the time todraw the line in the sand and,
688
00:30:04,324 --> 00:30:06,854
listen, man, shit,
I've had enough. That's it.
689
00:30:06,892 --> 00:30:08,462
I'm fricking done with this.
690
00:30:08,502 --> 00:30:10,502
[Barry] You know, Joe was
probably in a panic,
691
00:30:10,547 --> 00:30:12,847
wondering how in the world
are we gonna solve this?
692
00:30:12,898 --> 00:30:14,638
You know, wrestling
is your whole life.
693
00:30:14,682 --> 00:30:15,942
It's all you have.
694
00:30:15,988 --> 00:30:17,858
Your family's at home,
and you're with the guys,
695
00:30:17,903 --> 00:30:19,773
and you finally
get that push and,
696
00:30:19,818 --> 00:30:22,778
you can't have something benegative to bring you back down
697
00:30:22,821 --> 00:30:24,691
and that's,
that's what was happening.
698
00:30:24,735 --> 00:30:26,775
Mike kind of, you know,
the short fuse and losing
699
00:30:26,825 --> 00:30:29,565
his temper and, whether it
was with the promoter,
700
00:30:29,610 --> 00:30:31,700
could have a real impact
on Joe's career and
701
00:30:31,742 --> 00:30:33,312
even Ellering's career, right?
702
00:30:33,353 --> 00:30:34,793
So, I'm thinking
to myself, well,
703
00:30:34,833 --> 00:30:37,443
I'm gonna be a business man,
and I'm gonna serve out
704
00:30:37,487 --> 00:30:40,267
the dates that I
have left with WWF,
705
00:30:40,316 --> 00:30:43,316
to protect our name, in case
we ever want to come back.
706
00:30:43,363 --> 00:30:44,973
I said, man, I want
to do these dates, Mike,
707
00:30:45,017 --> 00:30:46,497
so we leave on
good terms.
708
00:30:46,540 --> 00:30:49,940
Right, to be businessmen.
I put my foot down and,
709
00:30:49,978 --> 00:30:54,158
Hawk was so out of his mindhe called up a couple guys and
710
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:57,550
ended up working out
his own deal in Japan.
711
00:30:57,594 --> 00:30:58,994
Like, screw the team.
712
00:30:59,031 --> 00:31:01,901
He just went on his own.
Then we were done.
713
00:31:01,947 --> 00:31:04,377
Well, he tried to get it overthere and had Kensuke Sasaki
714
00:31:04,427 --> 00:31:06,127
dressing up as
The Power Warrior,
715
00:31:06,168 --> 00:31:08,338
all spiked shoulder pads,
the face paint, and...
716
00:31:08,388 --> 00:31:12,608
[Japanese commentary]
717
00:31:12,653 --> 00:31:15,093
I said, man, that's...
that's our gimmick.
718
00:31:15,134 --> 00:31:16,964
โช
719
00:31:20,748 --> 00:31:23,398
Hawk inadvertently leaves
the future of the world's
720
00:31:23,446 --> 00:31:26,796
biggest tag team in limbo
by replacing Animal and
721
00:31:26,841 --> 00:31:31,501
continuing The Road
Warriors' brand in Japan.
722
00:31:31,541 --> 00:31:35,501
Standing in front of you
lies the future in
723
00:31:35,545 --> 00:31:40,585
tag team wrestling, my new
partner, Power Warrior!
724
00:31:40,637 --> 00:31:41,727
What are you doing, bro?
725
00:31:41,769 --> 00:31:43,379
I'm not doing
that here in the US.
726
00:31:43,423 --> 00:31:46,433
I'm not having
anybody replace you.
727
00:31:46,469 --> 00:31:48,169
I'm by myself!
728
00:31:48,210 --> 00:31:50,170
I ended up doing a
two on one match and,
729
00:31:50,212 --> 00:31:51,912
I herniated a couple discs.
730
00:31:51,953 --> 00:31:54,303
[Paul] Animal got injured and,you know,
731
00:31:54,347 --> 00:31:56,697
there were like two years
there where I didn't do
732
00:31:56,740 --> 00:31:58,310
anything with
wrestling anymore.
733
00:31:58,351 --> 00:32:01,141
And, I didn't think
I'd ever go back.
734
00:32:01,180 --> 00:32:04,970
While Animal lies in wait
recovering from his injury,
735
00:32:05,010 --> 00:32:06,930
Hawk presses on.
736
00:32:06,968 --> 00:32:09,008
But without the
guidance of his partner,
737
00:32:09,057 --> 00:32:12,367
he spirals out of control.
738
00:32:12,408 --> 00:32:14,628
Like 3 different times
he'd been rushed into
739
00:32:14,671 --> 00:32:17,501
an emergency room of
drug overdoses.
740
00:32:17,544 --> 00:32:20,034
He told me he had a head-on
collision with an 18-wheeler
741
00:32:20,068 --> 00:32:23,288
and rolled the pickup truck
6 times with no seatbelt on,
742
00:32:23,332 --> 00:32:25,202
and walked away from it.
743
00:32:25,247 --> 00:32:27,077
You know, I don't
know how many...
744
00:32:27,119 --> 00:32:29,339
ah, near death
experiences Hawk had.
745
00:32:29,382 --> 00:32:31,082
I know he had a few.
746
00:32:31,123 --> 00:32:34,523
When he got Hep C,
it's like he got
747
00:32:34,561 --> 00:32:36,961
slapped in the face like, wow.
748
00:32:36,998 --> 00:32:39,998
He's not the first wrestler
that contracted that.
749
00:32:40,045 --> 00:32:42,255
You know, guys in this
wrestling business, man,
750
00:32:42,308 --> 00:32:46,268
used to do some crazy things,you know, speed balling,
751
00:32:46,312 --> 00:32:47,842
mixing different drugs together,
752
00:32:47,878 --> 00:32:49,268
different things like
that where, you know,
753
00:32:49,315 --> 00:32:51,185
guys would share a
needle and just go,
754
00:32:51,230 --> 00:32:53,280
"Oh, god dang, buddy.
You guys are nuts."
755
00:32:53,319 --> 00:32:55,409
He was on the interferon,
756
00:32:55,451 --> 00:32:57,671
which is the medicine
you get from Hep C.
757
00:32:57,714 --> 00:33:00,414
He fricking cured himself
of the Hep C.
758
00:33:00,456 --> 00:33:02,886
But the worst part about it
is the doctor gave him the
759
00:33:02,937 --> 00:33:05,677
green light to go do
whatever he wanted to do so,
760
00:33:05,722 --> 00:33:08,072
he thought that meant,
okay, I guess I can
761
00:33:08,116 --> 00:33:10,026
keep drinking and partying.
762
00:33:10,075 --> 00:33:13,725
Hawk's wild side shows
no sign of slowing down,
763
00:33:13,774 --> 00:33:19,434
but in 1997, a new opportunity arises from the WWF and
764
00:33:19,475 --> 00:33:22,825
is too tempting
for either man to resist.
765
00:33:22,870 --> 00:33:25,480
Vince McMahon has
been great to us...
766
00:33:25,525 --> 00:33:27,915
and the WWF has
been great to us.
767
00:33:27,962 --> 00:33:29,922
And they're a classy
organization and we only
768
00:33:29,964 --> 00:33:32,404
want to associate ourself
with a classy organization.
769
00:33:32,445 --> 00:33:34,795
I, I knew eventually that
it would come back to it
770
00:33:34,838 --> 00:33:36,318
was gonna be The Road Warriors.
771
00:33:36,362 --> 00:33:39,582
We were so unique in the
way we did everything,
772
00:33:39,626 --> 00:33:41,886
and we were so unique
as a tag team and...
773
00:33:41,932 --> 00:33:44,502
it's like nothing else likeit in the wrestling business.
774
00:33:44,544 --> 00:33:47,074
[Mike] Animal and I have
become so close.
775
00:33:47,112 --> 00:33:48,852
We're probably the only
tag team that's been around
776
00:33:48,896 --> 00:33:52,286
14 years straight.
We're pretty much a unit.
777
00:33:52,334 --> 00:33:55,774
Their new contract comes with a strict insurance policy,
778
00:33:55,816 --> 00:33:58,646
guaranteeing they
will make their matches.
779
00:33:58,688 --> 00:34:02,038
But WWF introduces a
third member to the team,
780
00:34:02,083 --> 00:34:06,783
29-year-old ex-Denver
Bronco, Daren Drozdoff.
781
00:34:06,827 --> 00:34:09,477
They introduce Droz, and...
782
00:34:09,525 --> 00:34:12,085
he was gonna be like
the youngest member
783
00:34:12,137 --> 00:34:13,437
of The Road Warriors.
784
00:34:13,486 --> 00:34:15,526
Actually, I remember
when I first saw them.
785
00:34:15,575 --> 00:34:17,575
You know, they had
been icons forever.
786
00:34:17,620 --> 00:34:19,490
Hey, this is Droz.
787
00:34:19,535 --> 00:34:22,405
You know, I'm one of the
players they brought in for
788
00:34:22,451 --> 00:34:24,981
The Road Warriors
to work with and,
789
00:34:25,019 --> 00:34:27,629
you know, had a
great run with 'em.
790
00:34:27,674 --> 00:34:31,114
While the WWF has enforced a contingency plan,
791
00:34:31,156 --> 00:34:34,506
it also sees The Road Warriors'
real life problems
792
00:34:34,550 --> 00:34:38,030
as something it
can capitalize on.
793
00:34:38,076 --> 00:34:40,076
Vince McMahon came
to us and said, "Hey,
794
00:34:40,121 --> 00:34:43,041
we want to do this angle
with you guys where Hawk's,
795
00:34:43,081 --> 00:34:45,391
we're gonna portray him
as drunk and have him,
796
00:34:45,431 --> 00:34:46,781
happens on TV."
797
00:34:46,823 --> 00:34:48,173
[Commentary] I don't know
if he's inebriated.
798
00:34:48,216 --> 00:34:49,906
The referee's not gonna
start this match, is he?
799
00:34:49,957 --> 00:34:52,607
Yeah, he'd come out like
staggering around while,
800
00:34:52,655 --> 00:34:54,915
you know, they were sayingI was trying to separate them.
801
00:34:54,962 --> 00:34:57,142
[Commentary] Well, Droz...
just assaulting Hawk.
802
00:34:57,182 --> 00:35:00,452
"We don't need him, you know,he's messed up again." So...
803
00:35:00,489 --> 00:35:01,799
[Announcer]
Drozdoff!
804
00:35:01,838 --> 00:35:04,098
Delivering Hawk's
own move to Hawk!
805
00:35:04,145 --> 00:35:06,495
Yeah, it was,
it was heartbreaking.
806
00:35:06,539 --> 00:35:07,979
But that's wrestling.
807
00:35:08,018 --> 00:35:12,018
They take the dominant part
of your personality and
808
00:35:12,066 --> 00:35:14,156
they just make it bigger.
809
00:35:14,199 --> 00:35:15,419
You know, it was
kind of tough.
810
00:35:15,461 --> 00:35:17,771
It's like, you know,
they're doing this.
811
00:35:17,811 --> 00:35:19,381
But, he had been
through it and
812
00:35:19,421 --> 00:35:21,161
he didn't have a
problem with it.
813
00:35:21,206 --> 00:35:22,766
They wanted Hawk to climb
the Titantron and
814
00:35:22,816 --> 00:35:24,466
they wanted me to...
815
00:35:24,513 --> 00:35:26,863
you know, they wanted
me to portray like,
816
00:35:26,907 --> 00:35:29,297
"Hey, Hawk, don't jump,"
type of thing.
817
00:35:29,344 --> 00:35:33,784
Hawk, I wish I could say Iknow how you feel, but I can't!
818
00:35:33,827 --> 00:35:36,347
But I care about your life!
819
00:35:36,395 --> 00:35:38,655
Droz did a deal where they
made up, made pretend he was
820
00:35:38,701 --> 00:35:41,051
gonna go up to the Titantronand help Hawk
821
00:35:41,095 --> 00:35:43,265
and Hawk had all his demons
and everything else and
822
00:35:43,315 --> 00:35:44,525
he was drunk up there.
823
00:35:44,577 --> 00:35:46,057
When they really
went to go grab him,
824
00:35:46,100 --> 00:35:47,360
he really went
and pushed 'em.
825
00:35:47,406 --> 00:35:49,706
Get his shirt-- Ah, no! Ah!
826
00:35:49,756 --> 00:35:51,186
Got away.
827
00:35:51,236 --> 00:35:53,106
You know, to be
honest with ya,
828
00:35:53,151 --> 00:35:56,631
I didn't really have it in meto want to do the angle.
829
00:35:56,676 --> 00:35:59,806
It was too close to what
was going on in real life.
830
00:35:59,853 --> 00:36:02,463
And that bothered me.
831
00:36:02,508 --> 00:36:05,898
The angle is not only unpopular with Hawk and Animal,
832
00:36:05,946 --> 00:36:07,856
but with the
fans as well.
833
00:36:07,904 --> 00:36:10,994
And once again, The Road
Warriors make the choice
834
00:36:11,038 --> 00:36:13,688
to hit the road on
their own terms.
835
00:36:13,736 --> 00:36:16,036
We were wrestling
in Australia and,
836
00:36:16,086 --> 00:36:18,436
you had the beach,
you got drinks,
837
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:20,400
you could buy Xanax
over the counter,
838
00:36:20,439 --> 00:36:23,489
and so, it's just
not a good mix.
839
00:36:23,529 --> 00:36:26,709
Rumor had it that 3
or 4 of the guys,
840
00:36:26,749 --> 00:36:30,839
and Hawk was one of 'em,
had gotten ahold of some
841
00:36:30,884 --> 00:36:33,454
party essentials,
let's just say,
842
00:36:33,495 --> 00:36:36,275
and they were pretty much
up for two days.
843
00:36:36,324 --> 00:36:38,894
So, when you're doing the
coke and you're doing
844
00:36:38,935 --> 00:36:40,805
the muscle relaxer,
you're going,
845
00:36:40,850 --> 00:36:43,850
yo, yo, yo, like a yo-yo.
846
00:36:43,897 --> 00:36:46,027
Your heart can't
take that all the time.
847
00:36:46,073 --> 00:36:48,423
And, as I'm looking around
the arena by the
848
00:36:48,467 --> 00:36:51,557
-entrance area there, I see this,
-I see this big crowd of people.
849
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:53,170
And I'm thinking
to myself, well,
850
00:36:53,211 --> 00:36:54,651
somebody just came
back from the last match,
851
00:36:54,690 --> 00:36:56,080
they're just laying down.
852
00:36:56,126 --> 00:36:58,826
And I push everybody aside
and it's fricking Hawk,
853
00:36:58,868 --> 00:37:00,608
and they're putting
the oxygen mask on him.
854
00:37:00,653 --> 00:37:02,093
I said, "Whoa, whoa, whoa.
What are you doing?"
855
00:37:02,132 --> 00:37:03,612
I said, "He's gotta
go out wrestling."
856
00:37:03,656 --> 00:37:05,266
They said, "Man,
he can't wrestle."
857
00:37:05,310 --> 00:37:07,660
He goes, "This guy's about
ready to stroke out,"
858
00:37:07,703 --> 00:37:09,103
and they took him
to the hospital.
859
00:37:09,139 --> 00:37:10,919
Hawk had cardiomyopathy,
860
00:37:10,967 --> 00:37:13,447
his heart was about
ready to blow up.
861
00:37:13,492 --> 00:37:15,582
And he calls me up
and he says,
862
00:37:15,624 --> 00:37:17,544
"Animal, you gotta
come get me."
863
00:37:17,583 --> 00:37:19,063
I said, "What's going on,
man?"
864
00:37:19,106 --> 00:37:22,276
He goes, "I am not dying
in this fricking country."
865
00:37:22,327 --> 00:37:24,977
Hawk and I were literally,
when we were on the road,
866
00:37:25,025 --> 00:37:27,845
we were brothers.
It was a hard situation
867
00:37:27,897 --> 00:37:31,987
because there was
such a love of the guy,
868
00:37:32,032 --> 00:37:34,642
but the hate of
what was going on.
869
00:37:34,687 --> 00:37:36,597
So, I went, picked Hawk up,
870
00:37:36,645 --> 00:37:38,255
checked him out of
the hospital -
871
00:37:38,299 --> 00:37:40,909
against doctor's orders -
and from Sydney,
872
00:37:40,954 --> 00:37:43,704
flew all the way
to LA and from LA,
873
00:37:43,739 --> 00:37:45,129
he was going back to Tampa.
874
00:37:45,175 --> 00:37:47,125
I said,
"You're on your own now."
875
00:37:47,177 --> 00:37:49,957
When it seems Hawk and
Animal's run as wrestling's
876
00:37:50,006 --> 00:37:53,396
most dominant tag team is
about to come to an end,
877
00:37:53,445 --> 00:37:57,055
an unlikely event brings
them back together
878
00:37:57,100 --> 00:37:59,450
in a way nobody expects.
879
00:37:59,494 --> 00:38:00,974
โช
880
00:38:03,933 --> 00:38:06,763
Animal is faced with no
choice but to strike out on
881
00:38:06,806 --> 00:38:09,546
his own when Hawk's drug
affliction threatens to
882
00:38:09,591 --> 00:38:12,771
ruin both of their careers.
883
00:38:12,812 --> 00:38:14,942
I had just gotten
home off the road.
884
00:38:14,988 --> 00:38:16,638
I got done
working out at the gym,
885
00:38:16,685 --> 00:38:19,375
and there's 6,
300-pound guys called
886
00:38:19,427 --> 00:38:21,777
The Christian Power Team.
They did this event.
887
00:38:21,821 --> 00:38:24,211
So, I went to it and I
was pretty impressed by it.
888
00:38:24,258 --> 00:38:26,868
Eventually, Joe shared that
story with me and I said,
889
00:38:26,913 --> 00:38:29,613
"Man, why don't you come outto this conference in Phoenix?
890
00:38:29,655 --> 00:38:32,085
Come on out."
He goes, "Could Hawk come?"
891
00:38:32,135 --> 00:38:35,745
They came to Phoenix and,
I just remember Mike was the
892
00:38:35,791 --> 00:38:38,881
first one to the altar and
wanted to make a decision to
893
00:38:38,925 --> 00:38:40,355
give his life to the lord.
894
00:38:40,405 --> 00:38:43,275
And, that weekend,we actually even baptized him.
895
00:38:43,321 --> 00:38:45,151
We did a--
In the swimming pool,
896
00:38:45,192 --> 00:38:47,022
we did a water
baptism with him.
897
00:38:47,063 --> 00:38:51,073
And, from that point on,
Hawk lived in a good way.
898
00:38:51,111 --> 00:38:53,641
I think he found religion,
and then,
899
00:38:53,679 --> 00:38:56,419
he married a gal named Dale.
900
00:38:56,464 --> 00:38:59,034
And, he was very
happy with her.
901
00:38:59,075 --> 00:39:01,635
He was a different
person then, with her.
902
00:39:01,687 --> 00:39:03,377
Now, my motivation's
different than what it was
903
00:39:03,428 --> 00:39:04,728
when I first started out.
904
00:39:04,777 --> 00:39:07,947
My motivation now is
my family, my fiancรฉ.
905
00:39:07,997 --> 00:39:09,557
To make sure that if
something were to ever
906
00:39:09,608 --> 00:39:11,218
happen to me,
she's not gonna be hurt.
907
00:39:11,261 --> 00:39:13,441
He used to say,
"God has 9 lives,
908
00:39:13,481 --> 00:39:16,751
but God gave me 10, so I
can give my life to Jesus."
909
00:39:16,789 --> 00:39:20,269
He was moving out of his
house off the beach and,
910
00:39:20,314 --> 00:39:23,324
he had just moved the last
piece of heavy furniture
911
00:39:23,361 --> 00:39:25,411
in the house for
his wife, Dale.
912
00:39:25,450 --> 00:39:27,630
And he said, "Dale,
I'm gonna go upstairs and
913
00:39:27,669 --> 00:39:29,669
lay down for a little bit.
I don't feel well."
914
00:39:29,715 --> 00:39:31,625
And I was out
in my backyard,
915
00:39:31,673 --> 00:39:33,683
and all of a sudden,
I get a phone call.
916
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:36,029
Friend of mine,
Bob, and he goes,
917
00:39:36,069 --> 00:39:37,419
"Hey, have you
talked to Mike?"
918
00:39:37,462 --> 00:39:39,072
I said, "Yeah, man,
talked to him last night."
919
00:39:39,115 --> 00:39:43,415
He goes, "Huh. Have you
talked to him yet today?"
920
00:39:43,468 --> 00:39:44,948
And I said, "No."
921
00:39:44,991 --> 00:39:48,081
And he goes,
"Joe, Mike died."
922
00:39:48,124 --> 00:39:50,654
-It was an early Sunday morning,
-October the 19th,
923
00:39:50,692 --> 00:39:52,962
when the world of wrestling
was saddened to hear
924
00:39:52,999 --> 00:39:55,519
that Michael Hegstrand
had passed away
925
00:39:55,567 --> 00:39:58,397
at the young age of 46.
926
00:39:58,439 --> 00:40:00,829
And it wasn't that
he OD'd or whatever.
927
00:40:00,876 --> 00:40:03,746
You know, it was just
that his heart just stopped.
928
00:40:03,792 --> 00:40:05,322
It was probably one of
the hardest things
929
00:40:05,359 --> 00:40:06,709
I ever had to go through.
930
00:40:06,752 --> 00:40:09,542
Well, it was, you know,
I was just at home and,
931
00:40:09,581 --> 00:40:14,371
and Animal calls me
up and, and tells me.
932
00:40:14,412 --> 00:40:18,422
You know, "Hawk is gone."
933
00:40:18,459 --> 00:40:22,379
Joanie, my wife,
I said...
934
00:40:22,420 --> 00:40:27,860
"We gotta get the..." Hm.
Yeah, we--
935
00:40:27,903 --> 00:40:32,523
"We gotta get the black van
and drive to the funeral."
936
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:36,300
The old black van that I
took him to the airport in
937
00:40:36,346 --> 00:40:40,696
our first day together.
I still had that black van.
938
00:40:40,742 --> 00:40:47,012
Went to the K-Mart and got
cans of black spray paint,
939
00:40:47,053 --> 00:40:52,153
cover up all the rust.
And, we got in the black van
940
00:40:52,188 --> 00:40:57,188
and drove all the way to Tampa.55 miles an hour.
941
00:40:57,237 --> 00:41:00,547
Got passed by 10,000 cars.
942
00:41:05,071 --> 00:41:10,601
Yeah. I remember. Ah...
943
00:41:10,642 --> 00:41:17,042
October 19th, 2003.
944
00:41:17,083 --> 00:41:22,223
The dark clouds
covered the bright sun.
945
00:41:22,262 --> 00:41:26,612
Today we lost our friend.
946
00:41:26,658 --> 00:41:32,488
Our brother of planes,
trains, and automobiles.
947
00:41:32,533 --> 00:41:35,363
Many miles.
948
00:41:35,405 --> 00:41:39,405
If I could steal a line from,
949
00:41:39,453 --> 00:41:42,503
from The Outlaw Josey Wales,
950
00:41:42,543 --> 00:41:51,603
"Hawk, it is good that men likeus met in the struggle of life."
951
00:41:51,639 --> 00:41:54,289
Hawk's death brings to an
end a partnership that has
952
00:41:54,337 --> 00:41:57,117
not been matched in
wrestling ever since.
953
00:41:57,166 --> 00:41:59,996
He was unique both in
and out of the ring.
954
00:42:00,039 --> 00:42:05,779
A warrior, a partner,
a friend, and a brother.
955
00:42:05,827 --> 00:42:09,957
He, he wasn't Hawk.
[sniffles]
956
00:42:10,005 --> 00:42:11,435
Yeah.
957
00:42:11,485 --> 00:42:16,655
I think that is akey point is, he was still Mike.
958
00:42:16,708 --> 00:42:18,968
We never looked
at him as Hawk.
959
00:42:19,014 --> 00:42:22,634
He really gave a
shit about his friends.
960
00:42:22,670 --> 00:42:26,630
He just had your back, andhe probably knew I needed it.
961
00:42:26,674 --> 00:42:30,724
โช
962
00:42:30,765 --> 00:42:34,935
Biggest compliment that I
can make to Hawk is that
963
00:42:34,987 --> 00:42:38,817
everybody liked
to be around him.
964
00:42:38,860 --> 00:42:41,210
So, it was a huge void.
965
00:42:41,254 --> 00:42:43,914
And, Animal would know a
lot more about that than me
966
00:42:43,952 --> 00:42:45,432
because they've been
together and
967
00:42:45,475 --> 00:42:48,605
always thought of as a twosome.
968
00:42:48,653 --> 00:42:51,703
A lot of things in common.
At the gym, worked hard.
969
00:42:51,743 --> 00:42:52,963
They were a great tag team.
970
00:42:53,005 --> 00:42:55,265
They performed
unbelievably in the ring.
971
00:42:55,311 --> 00:42:57,881
But you know,
totally different.
972
00:42:57,923 --> 00:42:59,103
They were brothers.
973
00:42:59,141 --> 00:43:02,281
You know, brothers,
they love each other,
974
00:43:02,318 --> 00:43:04,628
but they'll have a
fight once in a while.
975
00:43:04,669 --> 00:43:06,539
I mean, listen, man, there weretimes where we were
976
00:43:06,584 --> 00:43:08,764
at each other's throat 'causewe were together so much.
977
00:43:08,803 --> 00:43:13,333
But, 99.9% of the time there
was a common respect there.
978
00:43:13,373 --> 00:43:18,203
It's over half my life, man,
I was with Hawk.
979
00:43:18,247 --> 00:43:21,507
From being stars in Japan
to being family members,
980
00:43:21,555 --> 00:43:24,205
to being brothers,
to everything else.
981
00:43:24,253 --> 00:43:26,733
You know, now what do
I do now he's gone?
982
00:43:26,778 --> 00:43:28,388
And that's the
hardest thing.
983
00:43:28,431 --> 00:43:30,391
I think we will be rememberedas the greatest tag team
984
00:43:30,433 --> 00:43:33,133
in professional wrestling
and I'd just like to go down
985
00:43:33,175 --> 00:43:36,435
as one tough dude
that had one tough partner.
986
00:43:36,483 --> 00:43:38,963
Hawk should be
remembered as one of the...
987
00:43:39,007 --> 00:43:41,617
one half of the
greatest tag team ever.
988
00:43:41,662 --> 00:43:44,492
He had one of the best
punches in wrestling,
989
00:43:44,534 --> 00:43:46,894
one of the best
interviews, for sure.
990
00:43:46,928 --> 00:43:48,578
Well!
991
00:43:48,626 --> 00:43:50,716
Hawk was
definitely a character.
992
00:43:50,758 --> 00:43:52,798
To be honest with you, a partof the wrestling business
993
00:43:52,847 --> 00:43:54,887
died when Hawk died.
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