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- [Joseph's Son] When I was very young,
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a teacher asked me and the other children,
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"What do your dad's do for a living?".
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And one said a lawyer,
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one said an accountant,
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one said a plumber,
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one said a carpenter.
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And I said, my dad bites
chains and bends horseshoes.
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Well she sent me home
with a note saying that
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you know, your son's reading
too many comic books.
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He's in a fantasy world.
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Well the next day my father
came to school with me.
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Went to my teacher,
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took a chain out of his pocket,
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bit it clear through,
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spat the link onto the table
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and said to the teacher,
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"If my son tells you
something believe him.".
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(upbeat music)
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- He could bend steel bars with his hair.
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- Biting a nail in half.
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- Bending a horseshoe with his jaws.
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- [Man] I think he pulled
like five cars with his hair.
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- [Man] Laying on beds
of nails and of course,
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if the cinder block has
been put on his stomach
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and whacked with a sledgehammer.
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- Pulling airplanes
with his hair (laughs).
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That's pretty crazy.
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Bit through chain.
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- [Man] A chain breaking
around your chest.
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- [Man] Bending a steel bar
across the bridge of his nose.
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- [Man] Pulling things with your teeth,
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lifting things with your teeth.
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He would be an internet sensation
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at his age doing what he
was doing when I saw him.
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Not even to talk about the stuff he did
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when he was younger.
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- He's the godfather.
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It starts with him.
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- And the very fact that he's Jewish.
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I knew a lot of Jewish people growing up.
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They were not known for strength.
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- Yeah, the list of Jewish
super athletes is kinda lean,
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but if you're gonna add somebody to it,
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it should be him.
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- To me, he was Pop.
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He was just a normal, hardworking guy.
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- [Announcer] It's called the iron game.
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A spectacle of brute strength
and physical presentation
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that defies logic and sanity.
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It boasts such heroes as Eugene Sandow,
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Louis Cyr, and Siegmund Klein.
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Men who routinely made impossible feats
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of strength look simple.
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But it's history was
largely shaped by one man.
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The most unlikely
candidate to share a title
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of strong man with these all time greats.
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Joseph Lewis Greenstein.
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Born into extreme poverty,
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given little chance to live
past his teenage years.
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Greenstein would evolve
to become the iron games
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most unlikely hero.
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The five foot, four inch
man would perform feats
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of strength so spectacular and unusual,
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many have yet to be
replicated to this day.
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And it was precisely his
size that led to the name
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he would become known by.
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The name now widely regarded
as one of the greatest
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strongmen to ever live,
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The Mighty Atom.
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(dings)
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- [Radio Announcer] WNBC New York.
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- [Long John Nebel] We're
talking with Joseph Greenstein,
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known as The Mighty Atom the
strongest man in the world.
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Well now, I have seen you
do some remarkable things.
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How did you become so strong?
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- [Joseph] Well, it's a long story.
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(upbeat music)
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- It's all amazing.
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It's all unbelievable,
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but what really made his
special is he's a little guy.
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You know, he's got the chest,
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he's got the biceps but he
doesn't have the physical stature
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for anybody to expect he
could do what he could do.
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- Our strength scales with
our size and our body mass.
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So a person that's larger naturally,
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with the same amount of training,
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the same genetics will
have more muscle mass
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and will be stronger.
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- You watch World Strongest Man,
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the guys are all 350, 400 pounds.
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But Joe Greenstein is an
example of great strength
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without necessarily having the great size.
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- You have to have some
tremendous sinuous,
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tendons, ligaments to be
able to do the things he did.
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And not as a young man either.
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- What inspires you most
if you saw a 300 pound guy
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with 24 inch arms bending a steel bar,
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or in The Mighty Atoms case,
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you've got a guy five
foot four, 148 pounds
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bending the same steel bar?
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The small guys always
gonna steal the show.
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(upbeat music)
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- My name's Tony Laughlin,
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I'm the general manager of
the Motus Biomechanics Lab.
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Motus is a three D motion capture
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wearables technologies company.
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What we do here at the Biomechanics lab
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is use motion capture to
evaluate athlete motion.
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With the reflective markers
that we've placed on his body,
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we can measure how his body is moving.
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And then we can also
measure the force during
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your to twist the horseshoe.
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(upbeat music)
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- I've been working out
now for about 30 years.
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My strength to the average
person on the street
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I would say I'm in the top five percent
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of the male population
in terms of strength.
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Pretty powerful, pretty strong.
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Currently I have a 615 pound bench press,
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a 600 pound squat and
a 600 pound deadlift.
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I'm here to bend or twist a horseshoe.
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I don't think there's
any type of trick to it.
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So I'm here to see if I can do it.
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I'm gonna give it my best shot.
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- So this is a hand dynamometer.
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And it's gonna measure your grip strength,
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average grip strength for someone your age
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is about 116 pounds of force.
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Excellent.
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And Paul's grip strength
is 165 pounds of force.
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That's significantly higher
than the average person
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Paul's age is able to grip.
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So what we're gonna do now
is have your run through
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a couple of different motions for us.
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So that we can create your
skeleton model in our software.
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I'm gonna have you do about three or four
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jumping jacks for me okay.
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The motion capture cameras
emit infrared light.
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And then we can run some
of our software to evaluate
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the mechanics of what he's doing.
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- All right so this
will be a first for me.
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Let's give it a shot.
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(grunts)
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Let's try this.
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(grunts)
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No, that's tough.
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- All right Paul, so we
can look at how your body
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is moving when you're trying
to bend the horseshoe.
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So the initial part when
you're really giving all
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your effort to try to bend.
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You can see that's really
high peak in the force
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you're producing.
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If we look at the force data,
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each peak you're applying a
very large amount of force here.
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This initial peak is almost
two times your body weight
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or close to 600 pounds of downward force,
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not including the grip forces
that you're applying as well.
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- So I'm pretty disappointed.
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I thought for sure I'd be
able to get some movement
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on that bar and nothing.
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It's pretty tough.
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I can't see how you can bend it.
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It just can't be done.
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- I meet people all the time
who think this is impossible.
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That there's a trick to it.
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There's no trick.
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He was just that strong.
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He could do things that people
three or four times his size
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just couldn't do.
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- [Long John Nebel]
Were you as a youngster,
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were you always working out
with barbells or something?
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- [Joseph] I started when I
was young in Suwalki, Poland.
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- [Long John Nebel] In Poland?
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- [Joseph] That's right.
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I was very sick when I started.
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If it wasn't for the sickness,
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I would have never been
able to do the things
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I needed to do.
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- When he was a young boy in Poland,
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he was very sickly.
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Doctors said that my dad
wouldn't live out the year.
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- [Announcer] In the mid 1800s,
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Suwalki, Poland was a
bustling industrial town.
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A primarily Jewish population
filled it's factories
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with workers until it's
economy began to collapse
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in the later part of the century,
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leaving many without work or hope.
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Disease was common and claimed many lives.
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Toward the end of the century,
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Suwalki was not a place
many people wanted to be.
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- He was born in the
Northeast corner of Poland.
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Very near the border of Russia.
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And it was sometimes under Russian control
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and sometimes under Polish control.
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But in those days, it was
just dirt roads and farm area.
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- Poland wasn't a place
where a young Jewish man
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had a great future ahead of him.
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There was always the threat
of getting conscripted
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into the army.
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There was also a lot of
radical politics going on
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inside the Russian empire.
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If you were young and
you could scape together
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enough for the Steerage Fair,
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everyone wanted to get out.
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- He was part of a huge
family as was my mother.
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My mother and dad met when
they were little children.
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They were married when
my mother was about 14.
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- Tuberculosis, or they called
it Consumption back then,
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was rampant and he contacted that.
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In those days, that was no joke.
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I think 80% of people that
contracted TB would die from it.
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- [Long John Nebel] What
did your father die of?
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- [Joseph] Tuberculosis, Tuberculosis.
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- [Long John Nebel] And then you also,
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they diagnosed your condition--
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- [Joseph] And that's what
they told my mother I had.
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And I haven't got long to
live and if I can reach 18,
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19 at the most I will die.
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It scared me.
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It scared me very bad.
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- The Jewish style of
burial was no coffin.
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And they lowered him into the ground.
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And this frightened my dad so.
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- [Joseph] And when they buried him,
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it was a painful for me.
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Naturally, I didn't like
the idea when the doctor
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told me I'm gonna die at 18.
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So my mother says, go to school.
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I walked and I stopped
out by a corner where
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they advertise all kinds
of pictures of strong men.
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And I kept looking at
those pictures and things
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when to my mind.
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How come these men are
so big, strong, healthy?
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And my father had to die at
39 and I have to die at 18.
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I said, there must be something
to it that they can tell me.
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I must see them.
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- [Announcer] Refusing to accept his fate,
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Greenstein choose instead
to chase a new destiny.
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This poor child with a
death sentence would soon
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be transformed to one of
the strongest men on earth.
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All thanks to a chance encounter.
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Because that season the
circus came to town.
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- In those days the circus
was not what we call
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a circus today.
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It was a couple of acrobats,
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couple of jugglers and wrestlers.
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That was what a circus was.
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- He was too poor to pay for circus
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and he tried to sneak in,
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and was caught.
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One of the men who worked
at the circus beat him
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really badly within an inch of his life,
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all bloodied up.
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He was eventually found by
this strong man slash wrestler
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named, Champion Valenko.
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- [Joseph] When I seen this big man,
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I started shivering.
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He looks at me and says, "bolshoy".
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It means, my God.
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And he says, what are you
doing here little boy?
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Come out!
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Who beat you up like this?
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I was bleeding all over.
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And as he wiping my face,
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and I told him this story,
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my father died and I don't wanna die.
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When I looked at his face
when I finished telling
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this story, he was crying.
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- So they, gathered several of the boys,
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and my father recognized
the voice of the boy
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who beat him.
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And of course, the wrestler fired that kid
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and heard my dad's story about
him having lost his father
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at a young age.
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- And one of the great
coincidences that my grandfather's
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life was that Velanko was also Jewish.
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And that was uncommon back then.
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You just didn't see that very often.
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I think you had to hide
it to get employment.
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And that immediately
bonded the two of them.
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And Valenko took him under his wing.
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- My mother used to
roll cigarettes by hand
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from a push cart in the market.
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He hid under my mother's
push cart that night,
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told the wrestler the next day,
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that he had spoken to his mother
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and gotten permission
to run away with him.
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And he went with the wrestler and traveled
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the world with him.
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- [Joseph] He says, the
move out two o'clock,
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the circus folds up.
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Come back here if you wanna go with me.
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I says, sure, I didn't go home.
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I stayed in the marketplace.
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- [Long John Nebel] In other words,
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you didn't go back to tell your mother?
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- [Joseph] I didn't want to
go home because my mother
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wouldn't let me.
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- [Long John Nebel] Wouldn't
let you go on the trip so?
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- [Joseph] So I figured, I'll
stay overnight in the market,
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and I'll stick around until the day comes.
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I came to the circus and
they were already packed
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and ready to go.
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I went with him.
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I traveled with him close to eight months.
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We wound up in Pune, India.
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- That was the turning point for him.
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You know, so much is
lost to time but whatever
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he learned, whatever Velanko taught him,
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it helped him cure his
illness and opened his mind
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into what was possible.
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- [Announcer] Greenstein went with Velanko
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and traveled the world.
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He learned breathing techniques,
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a dietary regimens in India,
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martial arts in Asia
and a myriad of strength
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and mind techniques from his new mentor.
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He returned to Poland to
marry Leah as a new man
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in body and spirit.
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They quickly started a family.
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But the instability in
Suwalki forced he and many
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of his countrymen to search
for a new life in America.
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- Over two million Jews
are fleeing both poverty
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and programs of life
in the Russian empire.
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And it's that migration
that really creates
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what we tend to think of as
the American Jewish Community.
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And a very wealthy Jewish philanthropist,
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named Jacob Shif, conceives
of a program to find Jews
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back in Poland, back
in Russia and ship them
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directly to Galveston.
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And from Galveston,
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the idea was that they
would be dispersed across
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the United States.
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The Mighty Atom was one
of about 10,000 Jews
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who made that journey to Galveston.
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- [Announcer] In Galveston,
he opened his first business,
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a gas station.
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He continued his training
of the body and mind.
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And started to perform
unbelievable feats of strength.
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At first for friends,
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but he wished to perform
for larger audiences.
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That chance came with a stroke of magic.
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- Houdini was touring
through Texas at the time.
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Seems that the Houdini
troupe had a flat tire.
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They ended up at my dad's place.
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- At that point he wasn't professional.
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He was just showing off for friends
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and inventing things and training,
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working to get stronger.
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- He grabbed some tools,
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walked back with the manager
to where the car was.
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- And my dad changed
the tire without a jack,
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lifting the car with Houdini
and several of his people
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in the car.
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- Didn't know who the
passenger was in the car.
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They asked if they should
get out of the car.
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They said, no, let him stay there.
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Lifts up the car with one hand,
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pulled the tire off.
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- Lifted the car again,
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put the tire back.
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Put it to the ground and they
all just couldn't believe
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what they saw.
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And that was my dad's
way of fixing a tire.
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- So Pitrov, the manager says,
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what else can you do?
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And he says, I have a whole
setup back at the garage.
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- They came back to the station.
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He showed them a few things that he does.
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Petrov picked up on it and
made him get together an act.
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- He also became my dad's manager.
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And he talked him into coming to New York
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to do show business.
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Left the family in Texas,
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and they worked up an act in New York.
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Once he got his act together,
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my dad sent for the family.
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We were brought into Brownsburg, Brooklyn.
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- [Long John Nebel] Did
you have a huge comb
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that you would put in your
hair and then tie a chain
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around it or a rope or a
cable and pull a firetruck?
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- [Joseph] Well, I have pulled
many of tonnage with my hair.
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- Yeah, hair and teeth were
a really big thing for him.
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It wasn't enough to just be strong,
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he wanted to do it in a way that
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nobody else had ever done it.
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He wanted to pioneer it.
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He's a bit of a freak show right?
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I mean, that's part of
his appeal for sure.
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It's not just the strength,
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it's the oddity of the whole thing.
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- It's just so bloody freaky.
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He's bending a bar with his hair.
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I mean you just don't get it.
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I started with Ripley's
Believe It or Not in 1978.
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Average three to four items a day.
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So 150,000 Believe It or Not's,
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I'd rank that in the
top 15 or 20 for sure.
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- [Joseph's Son] He did
17 different numbers.
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Biting a chain was one.
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Biting a 20 penny spike was another.
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Bending a seven inch bar
into a shape of a horseshoe.
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- Mighty had 'em bend very
short, short steel bars
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with very short handles.
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And these things are
incredibly hard to get any
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leverage on because it's so short.
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- He had his everyday feats and
then he had the larger ones,
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like the plane.
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He didn't pull a plane.
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He stopped it from taking
off with the resistance
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of his hair.
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He's pulling backwards on it.
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It's all crazy.
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- In the early years,
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he was doing Vaudeville
in the theaters around
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mostly the east coast.
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He would go upstate to
Syracuse and Buffalo.
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- The 1920s and 1930s,
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what do people do for entertainment?
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Radios just come in in the 1920s.
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He's not gonna make it on radio because
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everything he does is visual.
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So he's in Vaudeville,
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and people flock to
these Vaudeville shows.
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It's pretty cheap, especially,
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during the depression in the 1930s.
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00:19:22,270 --> 00:19:24,460
- Unless you lift weights you
don't know what 400 pounds
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feels like for example.
430
00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:28,167
But everybody knows what
thick nail looks like
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and it does or everybody
knows about breaking a chain
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or bending a horseshoe.
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People can relate to that.
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They can see just how unique that is.
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The truth is anyone can do this.
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You just have to believe
and train yourself to do it.
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He trained his own family how to do it.
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- [Announcer] For the Greenstein's,
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strength was the family business.
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All of the sons performed,
Jerome, Mike, Isaac,
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and Harry the oldest,
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was Joseph's frequent traveling companion
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and right hand man.
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- We worked up an act family
wise with all the boys.
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Bending bars, breaking
chains, lifting weights
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by hair, teeth and so on.
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00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:18,280
The smaller degree than my dad did,
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but he enjoyed knowing
that his family followed in
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what he did.
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- They were a traveling show.
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They even had pet monkey.
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- They were on Vaudeville.
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They were in music halls.
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They ended up sometimes in movie clips.
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You would see them.
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- [Announcer] As the years went on,
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the stunts became bigger.
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And the risks to personal
safety became greater.
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One particularly risky and reckless stunt
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wasn't even performed
in front of an audience.
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But rather for the editors of a magazine.
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- That was for Pic Magazine I believe
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at Floyd Bennet Field.
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They got on a runway,
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they chained my dad to a chair,
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wrapped chains around him.
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- Chains across his chest to his mouth,
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on his legs.
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00:21:08,430 --> 00:21:11,073
- My dad was sitting in
the middle of the runway.
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My brother Harry was behind
the wheel of the car.
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The car was 200 feet down the runway.
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- And they had put a
board in front of the car,
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big board so that nothing
in case it hit something,
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it wouldn't damage the car.
475
00:21:28,090 --> 00:21:29,510
- Because that makes perfect sense.
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If anything goes wrong
just makes sure nothing
477
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happens to the car.
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- He should aim the car
directly at the chair
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where my dad was chained, no matter what.
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- My father had to bite
through the chains,
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break the ones on is arms,
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expand his chest and get rid of that.
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And free himself from
the chains on his legs
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and get out of the path of the oncoming,
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speeding car.
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- And of course, as the cars
got dangerously close to him,
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he would leap off the chair
and leap out of the way.
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- As he lept, I remember watching it,
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the board caught his
ankle and spun him around
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in the air.
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00:22:11,180 --> 00:22:14,065
- Papers never mentioned
that it hit his heal.
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But it did hit his heal.
493
00:22:15,940 --> 00:22:18,404
- But he did get away and
he did break the chains.
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Which I thought was nuts.
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- My brother never swerved the car.
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- He just never though about mortality.
497
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- [Long John Nebel] I remember
when you had that accident.
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I imagine there's a good chance of getting
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a broken leg or a broken arm.
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- [Joseph] No, no.
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- Harry was very shaken.
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00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:43,480
I was a kid.
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00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:44,690
I went running over you know,
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00:22:44,690 --> 00:22:45,523
what's wrong?
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What's wrong?
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- Harry was completely shook up.
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00:22:49,250 --> 00:22:52,130
He never wanted to ever do that again.
508
00:22:52,130 --> 00:22:56,563
- I can't understand taking
those kind of chances.
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00:22:57,430 --> 00:23:00,983
- To him, I don't think he
though failure was possible.
510
00:23:00,983 --> 00:23:04,800
Or that asking your son
to drive a car at you
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and potentially kill you was a problem.
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I just don't think he thought
he would fail at anything.
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00:23:10,540 --> 00:23:13,090
- When he was going to
attempt to do one of his
514
00:23:13,090 --> 00:23:14,257
feats of strength,
515
00:23:14,257 --> 00:23:18,090
you could talk to him
directly and he'd never
516
00:23:18,090 --> 00:23:19,003
even hear you.
517
00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:24,450
The intensity of his concentration.
518
00:23:24,450 --> 00:23:27,690
And the will that he applied to the task
519
00:23:27,690 --> 00:23:29,003
he was going to do.
520
00:23:30,260 --> 00:23:32,073
He was going to accomplish it.
521
00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:35,170
There was nothing that
was going to stop him.
522
00:23:36,950 --> 00:23:39,453
He was going to accomplish it.
523
00:23:41,043 --> 00:23:42,376
And that was it.
524
00:23:45,630 --> 00:23:47,810
- I would always hear his name in passing,
525
00:23:47,810 --> 00:23:51,130
just because of my
interest in mental training
526
00:23:51,130 --> 00:23:55,140
and strong man training
and old school training.
527
00:23:55,140 --> 00:23:57,130
And the story always
seemed interesting to me
528
00:23:57,130 --> 00:23:59,650
and really compelling but it took a while
529
00:23:59,650 --> 00:24:01,960
until I got around to
getting my hands on something
530
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:03,710
where I could find out about him.
531
00:24:03,710 --> 00:24:04,543
Some of my friends,
532
00:24:04,543 --> 00:24:06,560
some of my students
laugh when I talk to them
533
00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:08,090
about The Mighty Atom.
534
00:24:08,090 --> 00:24:09,780
You guys are like about the same size,
535
00:24:09,780 --> 00:24:11,350
which is true.
536
00:24:11,350 --> 00:24:13,070
We're really close in size.
537
00:24:13,070 --> 00:24:14,160
Growing up as a kid,
538
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:17,449
I didn't have a lot of great examples of
539
00:24:17,449 --> 00:24:19,299
you know, tough Jews.
540
00:24:19,299 --> 00:24:23,020
And as soon as I started
to learn about the feats
541
00:24:23,020 --> 00:24:25,910
that he did it just
really resonated with me.
542
00:24:25,910 --> 00:24:27,580
If one person can do something,
543
00:24:27,580 --> 00:24:29,550
no matter how extraordinary it is,
544
00:24:29,550 --> 00:24:31,800
then anybody can do it.
545
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,383
(upbeat music)
546
00:24:38,350 --> 00:24:39,323
Welcome to the gym.
547
00:24:41,590 --> 00:24:45,280
This is our little wall full of pictures
548
00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:46,503
of inspirational things,
549
00:24:46,503 --> 00:24:48,160
full of inspirational people.
550
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,830
And of course, we've got shots
551
00:24:50,830 --> 00:24:52,850
of The Mighty Atom on the Wall as well.
552
00:24:52,850 --> 00:24:55,110
You can see he's right below Louie Cyr.
553
00:24:55,110 --> 00:24:58,610
We've got a lot of strong men on the wall
554
00:24:58,610 --> 00:25:00,231
and circus performers.
555
00:25:00,231 --> 00:25:02,840
Circus training kind of
came late in life for me.
556
00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:04,690
I didn't start really doing it until,
557
00:25:05,599 --> 00:25:06,520
I think I turned 40.
558
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:08,447
I mean, what kid doesn't love the circus.
559
00:25:08,447 --> 00:25:10,776
You look at performers
and must marvel at it.
560
00:25:10,776 --> 00:25:14,548
And this move, it's about strength.
561
00:25:14,548 --> 00:25:17,880
But you have to have a smart mind.
562
00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,653
And anybody who's ever tried
anything like this will know
563
00:25:20,653 --> 00:25:24,420
that when the person
gets up and my partners
564
00:25:24,420 --> 00:25:28,850
on my shoulders and I reach
up and she takes my hands
565
00:25:28,850 --> 00:25:32,015
that moment that she
places the foot on my head.
566
00:25:32,015 --> 00:25:34,612
That's when everything goes from,
567
00:25:34,612 --> 00:25:37,930
would you like to be able to do this?
568
00:25:37,930 --> 00:25:40,570
Or do you want to do this?
569
00:25:40,570 --> 00:25:42,660
If you don't believe
you're going to be able
570
00:25:42,660 --> 00:25:43,750
to do something,
571
00:25:43,750 --> 00:25:45,193
then you're right.
572
00:25:46,270 --> 00:25:49,510
Everyone always thinks I'm
teaching fitness seminars.
573
00:25:49,510 --> 00:25:51,900
That's actually the last
thing I think I'm teaching,
574
00:25:51,900 --> 00:25:56,003
I think I'm teaching people
how to cultivate their will.
575
00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,325
Paluna's gonna do a nice old school lift.
576
00:25:59,325 --> 00:26:02,760
Where she's gonna use a barbell
577
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,143
and it's basically an
improvised super yolk.
578
00:26:07,220 --> 00:26:11,603
So she's got weight but
it's incredibly unstable.
579
00:26:13,420 --> 00:26:16,600
The only limits that we
have are what we place
580
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:17,543
on ourselves.
581
00:26:19,120 --> 00:26:20,760
Women are always hearing, wow,
582
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:22,740
you should do this for exercise.
583
00:26:22,740 --> 00:26:23,900
You shouldn't do that.
584
00:26:23,900 --> 00:26:26,655
Women shouldn't life heavy weights,
585
00:26:26,655 --> 00:26:28,005
they should do more cardio.
586
00:26:29,256 --> 00:26:30,410
Who made up these rules?
587
00:26:30,410 --> 00:26:34,213
Sometimes doing something
that's unreasonable
588
00:26:34,213 --> 00:26:35,890
is the right thing to do.
589
00:26:35,890 --> 00:26:39,030
Sarah suffered a horrible
injury years ago,
590
00:26:39,030 --> 00:26:41,820
tore everything up in the side of her neck
591
00:26:41,820 --> 00:26:43,100
and into her shoulder.
592
00:26:43,100 --> 00:26:45,930
She's got a shoulder
that continually pops out
593
00:26:45,930 --> 00:26:48,570
so it makes stabilizing so difficult.
594
00:26:48,570 --> 00:26:51,496
And she was told you're
going to have to accept
595
00:26:51,496 --> 00:26:54,110
that this is the way it is.
596
00:26:54,110 --> 00:26:55,790
Well, why do you have to accept that?
597
00:26:55,790 --> 00:26:58,070
Because someone with a
diploma told you that's
598
00:26:58,070 --> 00:26:59,870
the way it is now.
599
00:26:59,870 --> 00:27:02,638
It doesn't have to be
that if you're determined
600
00:27:02,638 --> 00:27:04,670
that that's not the truth.
601
00:27:04,670 --> 00:27:07,573
You make your own truth by your will.
602
00:27:13,610 --> 00:27:15,130
- [Announcer] To attempt the possible,
603
00:27:15,130 --> 00:27:17,560
you must embrace the improbable.
604
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:20,040
Greenstein believed that
the most important part
605
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:22,892
of succeeding at all these
feats was not his body
606
00:27:22,892 --> 00:27:25,910
but rather his will to succeed.
607
00:27:25,910 --> 00:27:28,283
- The fact that he could
bite a nail in half.
608
00:27:30,910 --> 00:27:32,870
- Jars are very strong
and you can concentrate
609
00:27:32,870 --> 00:27:35,320
a lot of force in a small
area and make a large
610
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,670
pressure and try to cut things.
611
00:27:37,670 --> 00:27:42,480
But we're usually cutting
meat and green beans
612
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:44,710
not steel.
613
00:27:44,710 --> 00:27:47,450
- I just don't think anybody
would assume that the
614
00:27:47,450 --> 00:27:48,740
mouth is strong enough to do it.
615
00:27:48,740 --> 00:27:49,740
Your jaw may,
616
00:27:49,740 --> 00:27:52,950
be but you would think
the teeth would break.
617
00:27:52,950 --> 00:27:56,500
- Early 50s or 60s some
wheres around there
618
00:27:56,500 --> 00:27:59,050
we're at York Barbell Company,
619
00:27:59,050 --> 00:28:03,670
17 of the weight lifters got together.
620
00:28:03,670 --> 00:28:05,890
They wanted my dad to bite a spike.
621
00:28:05,890 --> 00:28:09,610
They all signed a letter
stating that they'd supplied
622
00:28:09,610 --> 00:28:11,880
the nail and they witnessed it.
623
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,920
John Grimmack handed my dad the spike,
624
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,750
examined the mouth to make
sure there was no apparatus
625
00:28:17,750 --> 00:28:19,040
in his mouth,
626
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:20,230
took the spike.
627
00:28:20,230 --> 00:28:22,539
It took him about six minutes.
628
00:28:22,539 --> 00:28:25,463
- And I heard him crunching on this thing.
629
00:28:26,478 --> 00:28:28,620
I'm this far away from him.
630
00:28:28,620 --> 00:28:33,620
And he went like that and the
other half was on his tongue.
631
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:37,970
- If it's in Ripley's, it's real.
632
00:28:37,970 --> 00:28:39,970
If we publish anything in Ripley's.
633
00:28:39,970 --> 00:28:41,210
If it's on our TV show,
634
00:28:41,210 --> 00:28:42,880
if it's in our auditorium,
635
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:44,050
in our books,
636
00:28:44,050 --> 00:28:47,800
we are 100% convinced it's true.
637
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,430
- It just doesn't compute, but he did it.
638
00:28:50,430 --> 00:28:55,210
And I think that's his greatest feat ever
639
00:28:55,210 --> 00:28:57,629
was to be able to bite steel in half.
640
00:28:57,629 --> 00:28:59,497
It was amazing.
641
00:28:59,497 --> 00:29:01,799
- [Long John Nebel] Now in
order to build your body,
642
00:29:01,799 --> 00:29:03,970
what did you do?
643
00:29:03,970 --> 00:29:05,890
Were you a weight lifter or?
644
00:29:05,890 --> 00:29:09,270
What forms of exercises
did you do as a young man
645
00:29:09,270 --> 00:29:11,883
when you ran away with
the wrestler in Poland?
646
00:29:12,930 --> 00:29:17,750
- [Joseph] I made out of
cement in two pales weights,
647
00:29:19,580 --> 00:29:22,080
and I stuck a bar to it.
648
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:23,543
And I used that as weights.
649
00:29:24,770 --> 00:29:27,460
And I wrestled in the
meantime and that helped
650
00:29:27,460 --> 00:29:29,410
me build my body.
651
00:29:29,410 --> 00:29:32,284
- There weren't gyms, that's
what people these days
652
00:29:32,284 --> 00:29:34,460
just don't understand.
653
00:29:34,460 --> 00:29:36,764
They'll see a strong man
or woman competition,
654
00:29:36,764 --> 00:29:39,660
and those people have a network.
655
00:29:39,660 --> 00:29:42,640
And a whole lot of knowledge
and people helping them train.
656
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,510
People 100 years ago, there
weren't gyms on the corner
657
00:29:45,510 --> 00:29:49,170
with large weights and
people to help them.
658
00:29:49,170 --> 00:29:51,540
A lot of what The Mighty
Atom did to achieve these
659
00:29:51,540 --> 00:29:54,630
feats of strength was applying
science intelligently.
660
00:29:54,630 --> 00:29:58,250
Current thinking now here
in early 21st century is
661
00:29:58,250 --> 00:30:00,620
now science has to be more integrated.
662
00:30:00,620 --> 00:30:05,140
It has to have more
synergy of physiologists,
663
00:30:05,140 --> 00:30:07,970
the training person, the bio mechanist,
664
00:30:07,970 --> 00:30:11,725
this team science helps us
answer difficult questions.
665
00:30:11,725 --> 00:30:12,970
And in a sense,
666
00:30:12,970 --> 00:30:15,630
he was doing that on a
personal individual level
667
00:30:15,630 --> 00:30:18,790
as experimenting with training,
668
00:30:18,790 --> 00:30:20,210
experimenting with diet,
669
00:30:20,210 --> 00:30:21,689
experimenting with rest.
670
00:30:21,689 --> 00:30:24,450
And through shear
determination and hard work
671
00:30:24,450 --> 00:30:26,790
he did amazing things.
672
00:30:26,790 --> 00:30:31,790
- My dad was 110% against any steroids.
673
00:30:32,190 --> 00:30:34,300
- He didn't take any kinds of drugs.
674
00:30:34,300 --> 00:30:36,106
They didn't have those things.
675
00:30:36,106 --> 00:30:37,190
And he wouldn't have
done it anyhow because
676
00:30:37,190 --> 00:30:38,023
he was about health.
677
00:30:38,023 --> 00:30:43,023
- He believed body
strength should be natural.
678
00:30:43,390 --> 00:30:45,930
- There are definitely a
lot of athletes out there
679
00:30:45,930 --> 00:30:50,930
that could accomplish much
higher levels of strength
680
00:30:51,162 --> 00:30:53,460
than they think they can,
681
00:30:53,460 --> 00:30:56,150
where they wouldn't of
needed performance enhancers.
682
00:30:56,150 --> 00:30:57,890
I definitely believe that.
683
00:30:57,890 --> 00:31:00,780
- The things he did were
as a natural athlete
684
00:31:00,780 --> 00:31:02,030
were truly amazing.
685
00:31:02,030 --> 00:31:04,730
If he had lived at this time,
686
00:31:04,730 --> 00:31:07,826
did the same training and then
added some drugs to his mix,
687
00:31:07,826 --> 00:31:10,663
he would have been
bending bigger steel bars.
688
00:31:12,970 --> 00:31:16,300
- His philosophy was that
there was no such thing
689
00:31:16,300 --> 00:31:17,870
as a small man.
690
00:31:17,870 --> 00:31:19,780
Nothing is impossible.
691
00:31:19,780 --> 00:31:23,713
You set your mind to
it and you can beat it.
692
00:31:25,210 --> 00:31:27,160
No matter what it is.
693
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:30,380
- The fact that somebody
says something is impossible,
694
00:31:30,380 --> 00:31:33,283
it only means to me that
it's impossible for them.
695
00:31:34,580 --> 00:31:37,600
- In order to perform world
class feats of strength
696
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,680
you have to overcome
it first in your head.
697
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:42,620
You gotta get rid of the word can't.
698
00:31:42,620 --> 00:31:44,860
If you are thinking can't,
699
00:31:44,860 --> 00:31:47,141
if you have any doubt
you're not gonna do it.
700
00:31:47,141 --> 00:31:48,880
There was a movie,
701
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:50,720
I think it was called, "Tribe".
702
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:52,958
Jan Michael Vincent stared in it.
703
00:31:52,958 --> 00:31:54,690
And he was a hippie
that had gotten drafted
704
00:31:54,690 --> 00:31:56,220
into the marines.
705
00:31:56,220 --> 00:31:57,550
And I never forget this,
706
00:31:57,550 --> 00:32:00,740
in the movie there was
a scene in bootcamp.
707
00:32:00,740 --> 00:32:02,130
All these guys are in bootcamp
708
00:32:02,130 --> 00:32:04,274
and they have to hold
these buckets out of sand.
709
00:32:04,274 --> 00:32:06,760
All the guys are dropping
the buckets except
710
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:07,620
Jan Michael Vincent.
711
00:32:07,620 --> 00:32:09,660
You know, he's just got his
buckets out and he's holding
712
00:32:09,660 --> 00:32:11,760
them and while he's holding those buckets,
713
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:12,850
they show what he's thinking.
714
00:32:12,850 --> 00:32:13,730
And he's thinking of all,
715
00:32:13,730 --> 00:32:15,750
he's just thinking of running in the field
716
00:32:15,750 --> 00:32:17,919
with his girlfriend and
he's thinking of kissing her
717
00:32:17,919 --> 00:32:19,370
and all this stuff.
718
00:32:19,370 --> 00:32:21,280
He's not thinking about
the buckets in his hands.
719
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:24,050
And finally, the sergeant
comes over and makes
720
00:32:24,050 --> 00:32:25,197
him drop the buckets.
721
00:32:25,197 --> 00:32:27,530
And then he goes on and
teaches the other guys
722
00:32:27,530 --> 00:32:29,670
how to hold the buckets
and keep 'em going.
723
00:32:29,670 --> 00:32:33,480
- If you go to lift up
a weight and the weight
724
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,090
does not come off the floor,
725
00:32:36,090 --> 00:32:38,117
and you didn't break anything,
726
00:32:38,117 --> 00:32:40,347
the governor kicked in and said,
727
00:32:40,347 --> 00:32:42,556
that's all I'm letting you have.
728
00:32:42,556 --> 00:32:47,556
Your mind has control
of what power is allowed
729
00:32:47,930 --> 00:32:50,160
to come out of your body.
730
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,920
Don't let your mind inhibit you.
731
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,930
- There's a lot of people
that have untapped potential.
732
00:32:55,930 --> 00:33:00,620
They just think they're
weak and so they are weak.
733
00:33:00,620 --> 00:33:03,167
- You set your mind to something,
734
00:33:03,167 --> 00:33:05,390
you can control it.
735
00:33:05,390 --> 00:33:07,534
And that's the same
thing that he taught me.
736
00:33:07,534 --> 00:33:09,470
- I first heard about The Mighty Atom
737
00:33:09,470 --> 00:33:10,920
when I was arm wrestling.
738
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:12,710
We used to get this publication called,
739
00:33:12,710 --> 00:33:14,320
Arm Bender Magazine.
740
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,670
And I was flipping through
the pages and all the sudden
741
00:33:17,670 --> 00:33:20,090
I see this article and it's talking about
742
00:33:20,090 --> 00:33:21,967
The Mighty Atom and Slim the Hammer Man.
743
00:33:21,967 --> 00:33:23,643
And I go, what's this?
744
00:33:23,643 --> 00:33:26,180
I see Slim and he's bending the bar across
745
00:33:26,180 --> 00:33:28,550
the bridge of his nose
and I see this little guy
746
00:33:28,550 --> 00:33:30,946
up in the corner of the
magazine with his arms crossed,
747
00:33:30,946 --> 00:33:33,080
long hair and I go,
748
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:34,070
he doesn't look that big.
749
00:33:34,070 --> 00:33:36,327
And he's just like me.
750
00:33:36,327 --> 00:33:39,710
He doesn't have giant muscles and that.
751
00:33:39,710 --> 00:33:41,163
Wow, maybe I can do this.
752
00:33:41,163 --> 00:33:45,585
- He worked quite a bit in
Pennsylvania, farmers markets,
753
00:33:45,585 --> 00:33:50,585
the fairgrounds, York,
Allentown, Louisburg.
754
00:33:50,810 --> 00:33:51,990
The York Interstate Fair,
755
00:33:51,990 --> 00:33:53,370
especially at that time on Saturday
756
00:33:53,370 --> 00:33:56,340
had throngs of people.
757
00:33:56,340 --> 00:33:58,935
They had legions of busloads
come out of Baltimore
758
00:33:58,935 --> 00:34:01,750
for the day just to see
the Interstate Fair,
759
00:34:01,750 --> 00:34:05,720
Saluki races, cattle auctions,
occasional cow being born.
760
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:09,310
Somebody who had a solo
act like The Mighty Atom
761
00:34:09,310 --> 00:34:11,050
might have gotten lost in that shuffle.
762
00:34:11,050 --> 00:34:13,580
He got your attention.
763
00:34:13,580 --> 00:34:16,360
- He was at the Great Allentown Fair,
764
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:19,456
I was working at a hotdog
stand for three days
765
00:34:19,456 --> 00:34:21,880
and they didn't sell any hotdogs.
766
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:22,770
So they laid me off.
767
00:34:22,770 --> 00:34:24,802
And I'm walking around killing time
768
00:34:24,802 --> 00:34:26,990
and low and behold,
769
00:34:26,990 --> 00:34:28,674
August of 1967,
770
00:34:28,674 --> 00:34:31,130
I run upon The Mighty Atom.
771
00:34:31,130 --> 00:34:35,330
And I see a slightly, to me,
772
00:34:35,330 --> 00:34:38,370
disheveled looking old
man sweeping a stage.
773
00:34:38,370 --> 00:34:39,970
- They had a pair of dress pants on,
774
00:34:39,970 --> 00:34:43,697
no shirt and his soapbox
is cranking up his shpeal
775
00:34:43,697 --> 00:34:46,040
and giving his exhibition.
776
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:49,813
He talked kind of gruff and
I was scared to death of him.
777
00:34:50,824 --> 00:34:53,037
- And I say to this gentlemen,
778
00:34:53,037 --> 00:34:55,045
"Hey, where's The Mighty Atom?".
779
00:34:55,045 --> 00:34:57,900
And he's says, ew, we got him back there
780
00:34:57,900 --> 00:34:58,970
in the truck in a cage.
781
00:34:58,970 --> 00:35:02,020
And we only let him out
at showtime after we feed
782
00:35:02,020 --> 00:35:03,221
him some raw meat.
783
00:35:03,221 --> 00:35:07,095
First of all, I never saw a
man with that length of hair
784
00:35:07,095 --> 00:35:08,880
from Southern York County.
785
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,820
That was the look that I
just had never really seen.
786
00:35:11,820 --> 00:35:12,810
They had the beard.
787
00:35:12,810 --> 00:35:14,480
Now I'm 10 years old,
788
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:15,313
as I recall,
789
00:35:15,313 --> 00:35:17,510
I'm watching this guy and
he's making me nervous
790
00:35:17,510 --> 00:35:19,740
and I'm edging closer to
my dad the whole time.
791
00:35:19,740 --> 00:35:21,410
Watching my dad to see what he's doing.
792
00:35:21,410 --> 00:35:24,426
I was hoping hoping he
wouldn't come out and grab me.
793
00:35:24,426 --> 00:35:27,545
- Sure enough I come back about
15 minutes before the show
794
00:35:27,545 --> 00:35:29,616
and right at 1:30,
795
00:35:29,616 --> 00:35:31,843
out comes The Mighty Atom.
796
00:35:31,843 --> 00:35:34,390
Except this time, he wasn't disheveled.
797
00:35:34,390 --> 00:35:38,221
He had on his singlet with is
strap over the one shoulder.
798
00:35:38,221 --> 00:35:40,900
- It's the classic one sleeve.
799
00:35:40,900 --> 00:35:42,680
You know bare nipple on the other side,
800
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:44,480
so you can see that manly chest.
801
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:45,830
To me, that's part of the act.
802
00:35:45,830 --> 00:35:47,950
I mean, it just makes it.
803
00:35:47,950 --> 00:35:49,360
- Right, his hair was down,
804
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:51,000
shoulder length hair.
805
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:54,250
And as he walks towards he
sees me in the front row.
806
00:35:54,250 --> 00:35:56,200
Gives a little wink and a Mona Lisa smile
807
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:59,050
and I said, all right,
that's The Mighty Atom.
808
00:35:59,050 --> 00:36:01,237
- I mean, between the gruff talk
809
00:36:01,237 --> 00:36:02,070
and watching this guy,
810
00:36:02,070 --> 00:36:03,600
why ought we handle the horseshoe?
811
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,120
I had some idea at that age the weight
812
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,060
and tinsel strength of the horseshoe.
813
00:36:08,060 --> 00:36:09,630
I lived in out in agricultural area,
814
00:36:09,630 --> 00:36:12,240
so I knew a lot of strong farmers,
815
00:36:12,240 --> 00:36:15,027
big farmers who weren't gonna
begin to bend that thing.
816
00:36:15,027 --> 00:36:17,400
And that was over 50 years ago.
817
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:19,570
I remember it almost
like it was yesterday.
818
00:36:19,570 --> 00:36:24,280
And if you didn't know him
before he started his exhibition,
819
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:26,763
you darn well remembered him afterwards.
820
00:36:28,110 --> 00:36:30,340
- I saw The Mighty Atom six times.
821
00:36:30,340 --> 00:36:32,880
In fact in 1968,
822
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,110
I was part of a nail bending act.
823
00:36:35,110 --> 00:36:37,320
He would look out over
the audience and you know
824
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,820
pick out three huskies.
825
00:36:39,820 --> 00:36:41,700
And at the time I was 16 years old.
826
00:36:41,700 --> 00:36:43,900
I'd been lifting weights for
about two and a half years,
827
00:36:43,900 --> 00:36:45,397
about 190 pounds.
828
00:36:45,397 --> 00:36:49,945
And he handed me a nail and
two other adult males a nail.
829
00:36:49,945 --> 00:36:51,445
And he said, here, bend these.
830
00:36:52,290 --> 00:36:55,920
And I put the nail over
my knee for best leverage.
831
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:57,982
And I pushed down as hard as I could.
832
00:36:57,982 --> 00:37:02,040
Nearly put two holes in my hands doing it.
833
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:03,736
All three of us handed the nails back.
834
00:37:03,736 --> 00:37:06,020
It's kinda like my first trophy.
835
00:37:06,020 --> 00:37:08,580
The Mighty Atom said, hold
the name up with a little kink
836
00:37:08,580 --> 00:37:09,413
in it like this.
837
00:37:09,413 --> 00:37:11,273
You know, ladies and gentlemen,
838
00:37:11,273 --> 00:37:12,106
give this young man a hand.
839
00:37:12,106 --> 00:37:13,400
Look he bent the nail.
840
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:16,973
I felt great until he put
the nail at arms length,
841
00:37:16,973 --> 00:37:18,290
twisted it,
842
00:37:18,290 --> 00:37:19,620
made the ends touch,
843
00:37:19,620 --> 00:37:20,490
threw it back to me,
844
00:37:20,490 --> 00:37:22,360
said, here, open it up.
845
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:23,780
I couldn't even get my fingers in there.
846
00:37:23,780 --> 00:37:25,890
Let alone, open it up.
847
00:37:25,890 --> 00:37:27,350
So I gave it back to him.
848
00:37:27,350 --> 00:37:28,820
Again at arms length,
849
00:37:28,820 --> 00:37:30,070
he opened the nail up.
850
00:37:30,070 --> 00:37:31,890
All right, wow.
851
00:37:31,890 --> 00:37:34,540
He talked about unlocking the mind.
852
00:37:34,540 --> 00:37:36,620
I remember the one time he said,
853
00:37:36,620 --> 00:37:39,110
every so often you read
about in the paper,
854
00:37:39,110 --> 00:37:40,680
that there's some 100
pound woman who lifts
855
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:42,458
a car off her baby.
856
00:37:42,458 --> 00:37:44,620
She doesn't think that
she can't lift a car,
857
00:37:44,620 --> 00:37:45,900
she just lifts it.
858
00:37:45,900 --> 00:37:49,373
He just became an expert
at unlocking his mind.
859
00:37:53,100 --> 00:37:55,390
- [Announcer] They were
moments in time still a blur
860
00:37:55,390 --> 00:37:56,570
to this family.
861
00:37:56,570 --> 00:37:59,697
A frightful reminder of
what could have been.
862
00:37:59,697 --> 00:38:04,585
- It was on a Saturday afternoon
when everything happened.
863
00:38:04,585 --> 00:38:09,160
You were outside getting
the care ready basically
864
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:10,000
so I could borrow it.
865
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:11,860
- [Man] And trying to
get ready for church.
866
00:38:11,860 --> 00:38:14,140
- And had just finished
working on the car.
867
00:38:14,140 --> 00:38:16,310
I thought you had been
finished working on the car.
868
00:38:16,310 --> 00:38:19,221
- [Man] Right, and this
is where you found me?
869
00:38:19,221 --> 00:38:20,267
- This is where I found you.
870
00:38:20,267 --> 00:38:22,030
- And as I go to open the garage door,
871
00:38:22,030 --> 00:38:25,245
I hear her, a primal scream like
872
00:38:25,245 --> 00:38:27,060
dial 9-1-1.
873
00:38:27,060 --> 00:38:29,560
- [Announcer] That scream
as 22 year old Lauren
874
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:32,763
discovering her father
crushed under a car.
875
00:38:32,763 --> 00:38:35,060
- I called his name and he did not answer.
876
00:38:35,060 --> 00:38:38,753
So I saw his feet underneath the car.
877
00:38:38,753 --> 00:38:42,870
Which then I knew something was wrong.
878
00:38:42,870 --> 00:38:45,800
- Because I was working on
the passenger rear wheel,
879
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:48,710
I put the jack here in front of the tire.
880
00:38:48,710 --> 00:38:51,497
So I just literally came
around the back side
881
00:38:51,497 --> 00:38:53,610
and scorched up under the car.
882
00:38:53,610 --> 00:38:55,010
And tightening that bolt,
883
00:38:55,010 --> 00:38:58,230
and that's when it happened.
884
00:38:58,230 --> 00:38:59,120
- [Lauren] His eyes were open,
885
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:00,570
he wasn't responding to me.
886
00:39:00,570 --> 00:39:02,630
Oh, my God, I'm going to lose my dad.
887
00:39:02,630 --> 00:39:04,630
- [Announcer] Seconds later,
she did what most would
888
00:39:04,630 --> 00:39:06,380
consider unthinkable.
889
00:39:06,380 --> 00:39:09,240
She moved a car weighing a ton and a half
890
00:39:09,240 --> 00:39:11,000
off her father's body.
891
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:13,080
- And from what I remember,
892
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:16,394
I just grabbed under the car somewhere
893
00:39:16,394 --> 00:39:19,856
started to lift and throw my body at it.
894
00:39:19,856 --> 00:39:23,140
I either held up the
car and pulled him out
895
00:39:23,140 --> 00:39:24,865
or I balanced it out.
896
00:39:24,865 --> 00:39:25,993
We're not really sure
which way that happened.
897
00:39:25,993 --> 00:39:29,079
At some point, I was able to get him out.
898
00:39:29,079 --> 00:39:31,190
- [Announcer] Two days later,
899
00:39:31,190 --> 00:39:32,690
this is Alec Kornaky,
900
00:39:32,690 --> 00:39:34,970
still in the ICU but walking
901
00:39:34,970 --> 00:39:38,850
and finally getting the chance
to thank his little girl.
902
00:39:38,850 --> 00:39:41,290
- When they told me that
Lauren picked up the car,
903
00:39:41,290 --> 00:39:44,195
I couldn't fathom how that was possible.
904
00:39:44,195 --> 00:39:48,340
- (laughs) There's no way to explain it
905
00:39:48,340 --> 00:39:50,423
in our point of view.
906
00:39:52,350 --> 00:39:54,780
- It's hard ...
907
00:39:55,780 --> 00:39:59,493
We tried to talk about it
and explain it to each other
908
00:39:59,493 --> 00:40:01,533
what we think happened that day.
909
00:40:02,439 --> 00:40:04,772
And I don't know that we
can really explain it.
910
00:40:04,772 --> 00:40:06,930
- I told him what happened
and the tears just come
911
00:40:06,930 --> 00:40:08,010
to his eyes and he said,
912
00:40:08,010 --> 00:40:09,240
thank you for saving my life.
913
00:40:09,240 --> 00:40:13,330
And she just smiled her blue eyed smile
914
00:40:13,330 --> 00:40:15,570
and that was it.
915
00:40:15,570 --> 00:40:17,610
- I still don't understand
the force and the leverage
916
00:40:17,610 --> 00:40:21,100
I was able to use to get
this car off of my dad
917
00:40:21,100 --> 00:40:24,070
but you know, a little bit of mind power
918
00:40:24,070 --> 00:40:27,960
and also maybe some sort
of divine intervention.
919
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:29,408
Who knows.
920
00:40:29,408 --> 00:40:32,820
- You hear of and you see periodically
921
00:40:32,820 --> 00:40:35,280
people who can do these
things that we think
922
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:36,450
are just amazing.
923
00:40:36,450 --> 00:40:39,710
You know she knew she needed
to do something to save me
924
00:40:39,710 --> 00:40:42,310
and she harnessed all that power
925
00:40:42,310 --> 00:40:45,630
that's naturally in your body
926
00:40:45,630 --> 00:40:48,763
and was able to do the
thing she needed to do.
927
00:40:51,430 --> 00:40:53,730
- [Announcer] A man who can
stop a plane from taking off
928
00:40:53,730 --> 00:40:57,370
with his hair or drive nails
into wood with the palm
929
00:40:57,370 --> 00:40:59,890
of his hand sounds like something ripped
930
00:40:59,890 --> 00:41:01,440
from the pages of a comic book.
931
00:41:02,330 --> 00:41:05,083
Turns out there may be a very good reason.
932
00:41:06,070 --> 00:41:10,120
- Joe Greenstein was really
like a real life superhero.
933
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:11,980
And was kind of like a Jewish Bruce Lee
934
00:41:11,980 --> 00:41:13,753
that also was really strong.
935
00:41:14,950 --> 00:41:16,710
- The fictional character
that I wondered about
936
00:41:16,710 --> 00:41:17,793
is Superman.
937
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:25,680
Jerry Siegal and Joe Shuster
create the character Superman
938
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:31,020
sometimes in the late 1930s early 1940s.
939
00:41:31,020 --> 00:41:32,390
- George Reeves was on TV.
940
00:41:32,390 --> 00:41:33,930
He was Superman.
941
00:41:33,930 --> 00:41:35,890
And The Mighty Atom couldn't fly,
942
00:41:35,890 --> 00:41:38,430
but George Reeves the
actor who played Superman
943
00:41:38,430 --> 00:41:42,460
was bending iron bars around
criminals to basically
944
00:41:42,460 --> 00:41:43,960
apprehend them and things like that.
945
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:47,377
Here was The Mighty Atom
bending these same kind of bars,
946
00:41:47,377 --> 00:41:49,690
live, real.
947
00:41:49,690 --> 00:41:53,160
It kinda bridged between
reality and fantasy for me.
948
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:55,297
- These are two Jewish comic book writers
949
00:41:55,297 --> 00:41:57,630
and when you think about Superman,
950
00:41:57,630 --> 00:42:00,348
he does all these strong man feats.
951
00:42:00,348 --> 00:42:02,600
So maybe they knew.
952
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:04,658
- There's so many stories I read about him
953
00:42:04,658 --> 00:42:06,980
vanquishing the bad guy.
954
00:42:06,980 --> 00:42:09,661
Where he's gonna go
out in some dark alley,
955
00:42:09,661 --> 00:42:12,862
just hoping that somebody
would mess with him.
956
00:42:12,862 --> 00:42:14,862
(yells)
957
00:42:15,930 --> 00:42:19,652
- He was walking through the
German Quarter of Manhattan.
958
00:42:19,652 --> 00:42:23,660
And there was a sign on the
second floor of a building,
959
00:42:23,660 --> 00:42:25,235
a big banner saying,
960
00:42:25,235 --> 00:42:30,235
Bund Meeting, No Dogs or Jews Allowed.
961
00:42:31,260 --> 00:42:33,750
He got a hold of this latter
from somebody up the street
962
00:42:33,750 --> 00:42:35,055
and went up there and ...
963
00:42:35,055 --> 00:42:40,055
I think he went in to rip
the sign down (laughs).
964
00:42:40,546 --> 00:42:43,126
- And he took a Hank Greenberg bat,
965
00:42:43,126 --> 00:42:44,820
it was a symbol of that.
966
00:42:44,820 --> 00:42:47,820
And he waited downstairs as they came
967
00:42:47,820 --> 00:42:48,820
tearing down the stairs,
968
00:42:48,820 --> 00:42:51,250
and he came tearing at them with the bat.
969
00:42:51,250 --> 00:42:52,998
- He started hitting a bunch of people,
970
00:42:52,998 --> 00:42:56,890
which must have been wild.
971
00:42:56,890 --> 00:42:59,067
- Knocks all of them out
apparently, according to the court.
972
00:42:59,067 --> 00:43:02,080
And the court throws the case out in part,
973
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:05,995
so the paper says because
everybody was too injured to
974
00:43:05,995 --> 00:43:08,420
testify against him.
975
00:43:08,420 --> 00:43:11,200
- And these huge Bund members,
976
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:15,340
all beaten up were
complaining that this guy,
977
00:43:15,340 --> 00:43:17,579
five feet four, 148 pounds,
978
00:43:17,579 --> 00:43:19,570
beat them all up.
979
00:43:19,570 --> 00:43:21,640
- The judge pretty much
threw it out of court
980
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:24,910
because he couldn't
believe such a small man
981
00:43:24,910 --> 00:43:26,953
could beat up so many big thugs.
982
00:43:29,328 --> 00:43:30,990
(laughs) Taking them all down.
983
00:43:30,990 --> 00:43:34,210
- He was really doing something
important for his community.
984
00:43:34,210 --> 00:43:38,290
He was standing up to Nazism in America.
985
00:43:38,290 --> 00:43:41,389
And in so doing, standing up
to Nazism around the world.
986
00:43:41,389 --> 00:43:44,160
- [Announcer] And the world at that time,
987
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:45,958
was a volatile place.
988
00:43:45,958 --> 00:43:49,166
Anti-Jewish sentiment was pervasive.
989
00:43:49,166 --> 00:43:52,270
And during his performances or lecturing,
990
00:43:52,270 --> 00:43:55,270
the potential for danger was ever present.
991
00:43:55,270 --> 00:43:58,589
- Atom needed a whole lot more.
992
00:43:58,589 --> 00:44:03,589
He needed a whole lot more
going for him then I did.
993
00:44:04,190 --> 00:44:07,063
There was a lot of prejudices going on.
994
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:10,460
And which people don't
even understand today,
995
00:44:10,460 --> 00:44:11,978
but I've seen it.
996
00:44:11,978 --> 00:44:15,667
- This is an era of rising anti-Semitism
997
00:44:15,667 --> 00:44:17,377
all around the world.
998
00:44:17,377 --> 00:44:20,080
And although, we tend to
think it didn't effect
999
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:21,050
the United States,
1000
00:44:21,050 --> 00:44:24,040
it actually affected the
United States dramatically.
1001
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:27,935
He met up with a lot of
it as did my brothers.
1002
00:44:27,935 --> 00:44:30,862
They don't talk about
it much but they all had
1003
00:44:30,862 --> 00:44:33,160
there share of it.
1004
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:35,140
- When people bought a house,
1005
00:44:35,140 --> 00:44:36,500
they were written with something called,
1006
00:44:36,500 --> 00:44:37,900
restrictive convenance.
1007
00:44:37,900 --> 00:44:40,180
And it actually said that
when you bought this house,
1008
00:44:40,180 --> 00:44:41,378
when you went to sell it,
1009
00:44:41,378 --> 00:44:45,610
you could not sell it to a Jew or to,
1010
00:44:45,610 --> 00:44:46,810
they would have said a Negro.
1011
00:44:46,810 --> 00:44:50,248
And that's actually law and
eventually has to be overturned
1012
00:44:50,248 --> 00:44:52,770
by the Supreme Court.
1013
00:44:52,770 --> 00:44:56,390
- It was not common to see
a Jewish athlete performing
1014
00:44:56,390 --> 00:44:58,830
or even in competition at that time.
1015
00:44:58,830 --> 00:45:02,255
- He was getting people
heckling him all the time.
1016
00:45:02,255 --> 00:45:06,247
He got a lot of that heckling
because of the Jewish
1017
00:45:06,247 --> 00:45:09,700
star that he wore on his outfit.
1018
00:45:09,700 --> 00:45:11,070
He was proud of it.
1019
00:45:11,070 --> 00:45:13,895
He never disrespected it in any way.
1020
00:45:13,895 --> 00:45:18,250
The same as he never
disrespected any religion.
1021
00:45:18,250 --> 00:45:21,910
- He defied anti-Semitism and he fought it
1022
00:45:21,910 --> 00:45:23,263
every place he could.
1023
00:45:23,263 --> 00:45:25,900
But most of the time he tried to ignore it
1024
00:45:25,900 --> 00:45:28,383
unless they provoked him.
1025
00:45:28,383 --> 00:45:31,900
Then he would handle it in his own way.
1026
00:45:31,900 --> 00:45:34,050
- He was no one to fool
with according to stories
1027
00:45:34,050 --> 00:45:36,290
that are pretty well documented.
1028
00:45:36,290 --> 00:45:40,200
- One incident when my dad
had a store on Sixth Avenue
1029
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:43,156
in Manhattan when he was
doing his health lecturing,
1030
00:45:43,156 --> 00:45:45,478
he used to get hecklers come in.
1031
00:45:45,478 --> 00:45:48,410
- And they came in three guys drunk.
1032
00:45:48,410 --> 00:45:51,812
And the heckling wouldn't stop.
1033
00:45:51,812 --> 00:45:56,180
And my brother Harry intervened and tried
1034
00:45:56,180 --> 00:45:58,270
to get them out of the store.
1035
00:45:58,270 --> 00:46:03,270
- And the idea is to
just nulify these guys.
1036
00:46:03,710 --> 00:46:07,060
Say, hey fellas, you know
he's not bothering you.
1037
00:46:07,060 --> 00:46:10,490
Leave quietly and don't bother him.
1038
00:46:10,490 --> 00:46:12,570
- They started to fight with Harry.
1039
00:46:12,570 --> 00:46:14,130
Harry fought back.
1040
00:46:14,130 --> 00:46:17,538
The heckler threw my
brother across the room.
1041
00:46:17,538 --> 00:46:19,110
- My dad saw that.
1042
00:46:19,110 --> 00:46:23,309
There's no reasoning or
reckoning with these guys.
1043
00:46:23,309 --> 00:46:25,241
He jumped off the platform,
1044
00:46:25,241 --> 00:46:27,410
beat the three of them.
1045
00:46:27,410 --> 00:46:29,480
- Aimed right for one of the hecklers.
1046
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:31,156
Picked him up with both hands,
1047
00:46:31,156 --> 00:46:34,007
put him over his head and threw him right
1048
00:46:34,007 --> 00:46:37,190
through the plate glass
window of the store
1049
00:46:37,190 --> 00:46:40,920
and he landed on the hood
of the car at the curb.
1050
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:43,520
- He avoided fights whenever he could,
1051
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:45,651
but when there was no alternative,
1052
00:46:45,651 --> 00:46:47,273
he handled it.
1053
00:46:48,130 --> 00:46:49,660
- [Announcer] But the trademark intensity
1054
00:46:49,660 --> 00:46:52,386
that allowed the Atom to
handle these situations,
1055
00:46:52,386 --> 00:46:53,500
had a flip side.
1056
00:46:53,500 --> 00:46:57,402
In order to obtain and hold on to power,
1057
00:46:57,402 --> 00:47:00,310
a man must love it.
1058
00:47:00,310 --> 00:47:02,610
Learning to let that power go,
1059
00:47:02,610 --> 00:47:04,133
could at times be difficult.
1060
00:47:05,310 --> 00:47:08,390
- You know there's a fine
line between being crazy
1061
00:47:08,390 --> 00:47:11,480
and being extremely courageous.
1062
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:14,430
And you know, some people draw that line
1063
00:47:14,430 --> 00:47:16,020
at a different place.
1064
00:47:16,020 --> 00:47:18,890
- He was a very unique
and extraordinary man
1065
00:47:18,890 --> 00:47:20,300
in a variety of ways.
1066
00:47:20,300 --> 00:47:21,133
Like I said,
1067
00:47:22,153 --> 00:47:23,670
you had the one side of him
that was very down to earth,
1068
00:47:23,670 --> 00:47:26,330
nice man religious gentleman.
1069
00:47:26,330 --> 00:47:29,850
Then you had the other side
I guess you would call him
1070
00:47:29,850 --> 00:47:31,370
a little bit of a wild man.
1071
00:47:31,370 --> 00:47:33,742
- People that do unusual things,
1072
00:47:33,742 --> 00:47:36,520
some of them want money,
1073
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:39,950
but most of them want 15 minutes of fame.
1074
00:47:39,950 --> 00:47:42,380
Here's their chance for fame.
1075
00:47:42,380 --> 00:47:46,400
And typically, I think that's
what motivates all of us.
1076
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:48,690
Is we want somebody to notice us.
1077
00:47:48,690 --> 00:47:52,500
We did something worthy that
people are gonna go, wow.
1078
00:47:52,500 --> 00:47:54,950
Obviously, dragging
airplanes with your hair
1079
00:47:54,950 --> 00:47:57,080
is something that's pretty crazy.
1080
00:47:57,080 --> 00:48:00,700
Changing a tire without
tools is pretty crazy
1081
00:48:00,700 --> 00:48:03,300
to most average people.
1082
00:48:03,300 --> 00:48:07,754
In the same regard, guys
that do 500, 600 pound
1083
00:48:07,754 --> 00:48:12,420
overhead lift or lifting
up cars like in these
1084
00:48:12,420 --> 00:48:14,270
strong man things and throwing kegs
1085
00:48:14,270 --> 00:48:15,970
that's all crazy.
1086
00:48:15,970 --> 00:48:18,890
But what isn't.
1087
00:48:18,890 --> 00:48:22,170
- I'm sure there's a certain
amount of esteem in it
1088
00:48:22,170 --> 00:48:24,070
'cause not everybody can do it.
1089
00:48:24,070 --> 00:48:26,170
You are setting yourself apart.
1090
00:48:26,170 --> 00:48:27,883
- My father loved an audience.
1091
00:48:27,883 --> 00:48:30,290
He loved performing.
1092
00:48:30,290 --> 00:48:34,302
He loved being able to
accomplish things that are
1093
00:48:34,302 --> 00:48:37,250
considered impossible.
1094
00:48:37,250 --> 00:48:40,250
And he gloated over the
fact that he was able to do
1095
00:48:40,250 --> 00:48:41,343
all these things.
1096
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:44,130
- Very egotistic.
1097
00:48:44,130 --> 00:48:46,533
That to me was his biggest flaw.
1098
00:48:47,950 --> 00:48:52,950
A lot of what he did was
because his ego was so great.
1099
00:48:53,598 --> 00:48:58,130
He used to drive a nail
with just a hanky protecting
1100
00:48:58,130 --> 00:49:01,743
his hand through two inches of lumber.
1101
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:07,983
My brother Harry was able
to do that eventually.
1102
00:49:09,010 --> 00:49:12,070
So my dad added 19 sheets of, I think,
1103
00:49:12,070 --> 00:49:15,815
12 gage sheet metal on top
of the two inches of lumber
1104
00:49:15,815 --> 00:49:18,233
and that was then his number.
1105
00:49:19,390 --> 00:49:20,703
Harry couldn't do that.
1106
00:49:21,820 --> 00:49:24,077
These are the things that drove him.
1107
00:49:24,077 --> 00:49:28,193
He had to do one better than
the guy that did it before.
1108
00:49:29,060 --> 00:49:31,133
- He loved the pat on
the back that he got.
1109
00:49:31,133 --> 00:49:32,570
That was his life.
1110
00:49:32,570 --> 00:49:34,024
He loved it.
1111
00:49:34,024 --> 00:49:36,033
And the more he accomplished,
1112
00:49:36,033 --> 00:49:38,370
the more he tried to do harder things.
1113
00:49:38,370 --> 00:49:43,370
- He once filled his
body with pockets of lead
1114
00:49:44,348 --> 00:49:48,620
and hung from an airplane and they flew,
1115
00:49:48,620 --> 00:49:49,670
I don't where they flew,
1116
00:49:49,670 --> 00:49:51,257
but it was in the newspapers.
1117
00:49:51,257 --> 00:49:53,320
He almost killed himself.
1118
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:56,880
He was hanging by the head
of his hair from a plane
1119
00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:58,833
laden down with lead weights.
1120
00:50:00,140 --> 00:50:01,973
But it was a sensational stunt.
1121
00:50:03,237 --> 00:50:06,708
- (laughs) It's just why
would you come up with that?
1122
00:50:06,708 --> 00:50:08,900
It's mind boggling what
makes somebody do those
1123
00:50:08,900 --> 00:50:10,100
kind of things.
1124
00:50:10,100 --> 00:50:12,500
You see Nick Wallenda walk across a wire,
1125
00:50:12,500 --> 00:50:15,810
across Niagara Falls, why?
1126
00:50:15,810 --> 00:50:18,000
But what makes you do such a thing?
1127
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:22,100
It can have it's downside
because that drive is there
1128
00:50:22,100 --> 00:50:24,427
all the time in some aspects of life
1129
00:50:24,427 --> 00:50:27,290
and some aspects of how it
comes out in your personality.
1130
00:50:27,290 --> 00:50:28,750
It's not always positive,
1131
00:50:28,750 --> 00:50:30,180
but it is what it is.
1132
00:50:30,180 --> 00:50:33,080
- If you spend your whole
life getting objects
1133
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:34,480
to bend to your will,
1134
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:37,548
everything has to bend to your will.
1135
00:50:37,548 --> 00:50:40,246
He was about a lot of things,
1136
00:50:40,246 --> 00:50:44,040
many of them were spectacular,
1137
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:45,392
some not so good.
1138
00:50:45,392 --> 00:50:50,392
But he led a life that
was unique and impossible
1139
00:50:50,450 --> 00:50:52,500
to duplicate in this day.
1140
00:50:52,500 --> 00:50:54,990
- If you see a 60 year
old guy drop to the floor
1141
00:50:54,990 --> 00:50:56,950
and do 10, 15 pushups,
1142
00:50:56,950 --> 00:50:59,240
in his generation, that's like, wow,
1143
00:50:59,240 --> 00:51:00,073
that's good.
1144
00:51:00,073 --> 00:51:01,280
And it is.
1145
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:03,580
But if you can take steel bar,
1146
00:51:03,580 --> 00:51:06,861
an inch steel bar and twist
it, bend it into a pretzel
1147
00:51:06,861 --> 00:51:09,454
or make ornamental sculpture out of it,
1148
00:51:09,454 --> 00:51:11,126
that's more impressive.
1149
00:51:11,126 --> 00:51:13,453
There's less people able to do that.
1150
00:51:15,244 --> 00:51:17,827
(upbeat music)
1151
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:22,260
- All right, well here,
I've got some hand bent
1152
00:51:22,260 --> 00:51:24,840
steel in various stages of complete.
1153
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:27,775
Some horseshoes I bent and just painted.
1154
00:51:27,775 --> 00:51:32,450
That's just rusty, jagged steel.
1155
00:51:32,450 --> 00:51:35,350
You know we would just
bend for fun and this piece
1156
00:51:35,350 --> 00:51:38,000
up here, this was my first scroll.
1157
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:40,890
When I did it, I immediately
saw the potential
1158
00:51:40,890 --> 00:51:42,863
for artwork in it.
1159
00:51:42,863 --> 00:51:46,760
So I painted it and I
mounted it in that pot
1160
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:50,163
using concrete and other scrap metal.
1161
00:51:51,069 --> 00:51:53,783
I opened a gym in 2011.
1162
00:51:54,710 --> 00:51:57,310
Art and Strength just seemed
like a good fit for it.
1163
00:51:58,830 --> 00:52:00,990
I bring most of my finished
pieces in here to put
1164
00:52:00,990 --> 00:52:01,963
them on display.
1165
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:07,280
This is an interesting piece right here.
1166
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:10,980
You've got very little
control over the shape
1167
00:52:10,980 --> 00:52:14,180
that it's going to take.
1168
00:52:14,180 --> 00:52:15,250
As you're twisting it,
1169
00:52:15,250 --> 00:52:18,500
it just starts to fold over itself.
1170
00:52:18,500 --> 00:52:23,370
And I'll just keep twisting it
until it won't twist anymore
1171
00:52:23,370 --> 00:52:28,370
or until I find a design that
looks aesthetically pleasing.
1172
00:52:28,964 --> 00:52:32,143
Find the right steel here.
1173
00:52:36,512 --> 00:52:38,429
(zips)
1174
00:52:39,533 --> 00:52:41,700
(brushes)
1175
00:52:43,810 --> 00:52:46,448
All right, now that I got
the rust knocked off of it,
1176
00:52:46,448 --> 00:52:48,920
I'm gonna try to make a wine rack.
1177
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:50,393
Like that there.
1178
00:52:54,665 --> 00:52:56,832
(exhales)
1179
00:53:00,830 --> 00:53:02,913
(grunts)
1180
00:53:12,685 --> 00:53:13,518
Ah!
1181
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:45,360
This is where it gets
tough when you start to get
1182
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:46,573
coils in there.
1183
00:53:47,460 --> 00:53:48,963
You lose leverage.
1184
00:53:53,508 --> 00:53:54,341
Ah!
1185
00:53:56,068 --> 00:53:58,151
(grunts)
1186
00:54:04,616 --> 00:54:05,783
Hm, let's see.
1187
00:54:12,180 --> 00:54:13,013
Not bad.
1188
00:54:14,460 --> 00:54:16,070
The first time I met Dennis,
1189
00:54:16,070 --> 00:54:20,590
he was quartering a deck
of cards behind his back
1190
00:54:20,590 --> 00:54:21,920
with two fingers.
1191
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:24,830
So he tore a deck of cards in half
1192
00:54:25,700 --> 00:54:29,500
and then he tore the half again,
1193
00:54:29,500 --> 00:54:34,280
in half behind his back with
three fingers taped down.
1194
00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:37,950
So he only had these two fingers available
1195
00:54:37,950 --> 00:54:40,220
and he was doing it behind his back.
1196
00:54:40,220 --> 00:54:41,090
Blew my mind.
1197
00:54:41,090 --> 00:54:45,928
And the guys like, you know
160 pounds and 50 years old.
1198
00:54:45,928 --> 00:54:48,210
What, how is this guy doing this?
1199
00:54:48,210 --> 00:54:49,043
It was amazing.
1200
00:54:49,043 --> 00:54:51,551
The Mighty Atom originated
a lot of the things
1201
00:54:51,551 --> 00:54:53,110
that I do.
1202
00:54:53,110 --> 00:54:54,020
The horseshoe bending,
1203
00:54:54,020 --> 00:54:55,860
the nail bending.
1204
00:54:55,860 --> 00:55:00,860
And that has been passed down
through Slim The Hammerman
1205
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:04,373
to Dennis Rogers to myself.
1206
00:55:05,410 --> 00:55:07,400
And it's a neat thing to be a part of.
1207
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:10,840
To have a piece of that passed down to me,
1208
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:12,693
it's really cool.
1209
00:55:14,530 --> 00:55:18,477
- Half of the ability to do these things
1210
00:55:18,477 --> 00:55:23,477
is the ignoring the pain
that is involved in doing
1211
00:55:23,732 --> 00:55:25,122
these numbers.
1212
00:55:25,122 --> 00:55:28,630
You have the head of the nail in one side,
1213
00:55:28,630 --> 00:55:30,580
the point of the nail in the other,
1214
00:55:30,580 --> 00:55:31,880
and you've got to bend it.
1215
00:55:33,028 --> 00:55:36,349
They drive into the palms of your hands.
1216
00:55:36,349 --> 00:55:38,728
And it hurts.
1217
00:55:38,728 --> 00:55:43,728
- Really, I think, anybody
is capable of doing that.
1218
00:55:43,922 --> 00:55:48,922
If you can get over the idea
that it's gonna hurt your hand.
1219
00:55:50,870 --> 00:55:51,930
- But your brain says to you,
1220
00:55:51,930 --> 00:55:53,790
hey, this hurts me.
1221
00:55:53,790 --> 00:55:55,800
They might be strong enough to do it
1222
00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:57,961
but they stop because of the pain.
1223
00:55:57,961 --> 00:56:01,870
And you have to ignore the pain.
1224
00:56:01,870 --> 00:56:05,310
- We have organs called,
golgi tendon organs
1225
00:56:05,310 --> 00:56:08,929
that are between our muscle
fibers and our muscle tendons.
1226
00:56:08,929 --> 00:56:09,762
And what they do is they inhibit,
1227
00:56:09,762 --> 00:56:10,595
muscle forces.
1228
00:56:12,035 --> 00:56:12,920
They're purely designed
to protect ourselves
1229
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:15,640
and not strain our muscles
and hurt ourselves.
1230
00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:18,259
- You get to where you say, okay,
1231
00:56:18,259 --> 00:56:23,259
basically are you gonna let
this piece of steel punk you?
1232
00:56:23,460 --> 00:56:26,389
Are you gonna be a baby
and let it you know.
1233
00:56:26,389 --> 00:56:27,770
Oh it hurts, I can't do it.
1234
00:56:27,770 --> 00:56:29,700
And you just think of other things.
1235
00:56:29,700 --> 00:56:30,800
You don't think about okay,
1236
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:33,010
I'm gonna push this piece
of steel down on my leg
1237
00:56:33,010 --> 00:56:34,470
and I know it's gonna hurt.
1238
00:56:34,470 --> 00:56:35,520
Oh, no, you don't think about that.
1239
00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:37,810
You say, I'm gonna push
this piece of steel down
1240
00:56:37,810 --> 00:56:39,330
on my leg and I'm gonna own it.
1241
00:56:39,330 --> 00:56:40,170
I'm gonna crush it.
1242
00:56:40,170 --> 00:56:41,770
It is going to crumble.
1243
00:56:41,770 --> 00:56:44,052
- And they have to override
this mechanism that
1244
00:56:44,052 --> 00:56:45,960
inhibits muscles and says,
1245
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:47,830
mellow out, don't hurt yourself.
1246
00:56:47,830 --> 00:56:52,130
So a lot of what athletes
do is really a unity
1247
00:56:52,130 --> 00:56:54,320
or a synergy of mind and body.
1248
00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:59,320
- When I first made a pull
of a truck with my hair,
1249
00:57:00,090 --> 00:57:04,231
my brothers told me it's gonna hurt.
1250
00:57:04,231 --> 00:57:08,897
And all of the sudden you're
gonna feel like a bat hit you.
1251
00:57:08,897 --> 00:57:13,400
When that happens, pull harder.
1252
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:15,580
- Most people, when they
tried to pull any sort
1253
00:57:15,580 --> 00:57:17,560
of vehicle with just their hair alone,
1254
00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:19,990
give up and start chasing
the vehicle before
1255
00:57:19,990 --> 00:57:21,740
they could actually pull it.
1256
00:57:21,740 --> 00:57:23,800
- And suddenly, it was like a whang.
1257
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:25,712
It was like I walked into a pole.
1258
00:57:25,712 --> 00:57:28,660
My head, I couldn't believe it.
1259
00:57:28,660 --> 00:57:31,650
And they had talked me
into pulling harder.
1260
00:57:31,650 --> 00:57:34,170
And the truck started to move.
1261
00:57:34,170 --> 00:57:35,913
Once it's rolling its easy.
1262
00:57:36,870 --> 00:57:40,890
Course my head swelled up
and I looked like a gargoyle
1263
00:57:40,890 --> 00:57:42,130
for three weeks afterwards.
1264
00:57:42,130 --> 00:57:44,025
And I swore to never do it again.
1265
00:57:44,025 --> 00:57:49,010
One of the many reasons that
I am probably my brothers
1266
00:57:49,010 --> 00:57:51,787
never went into it any further is that,
1267
00:57:51,787 --> 00:57:55,973
the pain was not to be ignored.
1268
00:57:57,640 --> 00:58:01,650
Most people feel that there
are tricks involved anyway.
1269
00:58:01,650 --> 00:58:04,910
And don't believe that
what you are doing is real.
1270
00:58:04,910 --> 00:58:07,980
And I couldn't stand
that 'cause I knew what
1271
00:58:07,980 --> 00:58:09,333
it took to do these things.
1272
00:58:10,790 --> 00:58:11,960
- [Long John Nebel] Well,
how do you make a living
1273
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:13,330
doing this?
1274
00:58:13,330 --> 00:58:14,830
- [Joseph] By selling my product?
1275
00:58:14,830 --> 00:58:16,420
- [Long John Nebel] What is your product?
1276
00:58:16,420 --> 00:58:17,630
- [Joseph] I sell an herb.
1277
00:58:17,630 --> 00:58:18,463
- [Long John Nebel] Right.
1278
00:58:18,463 --> 00:58:19,440
- [Joseph] I sell a soap.
1279
00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:20,698
- [Long John Nebel] Right.
1280
00:58:20,698 --> 00:58:21,896
- [Joseph] A liniment.
1281
00:58:21,896 --> 00:58:22,824
- [Long John Nebel] Right.
1282
00:58:22,824 --> 00:58:24,036
- [Joseph] I sell a vitamin.
1283
00:58:24,036 --> 00:58:27,610
- His main source of income was lecturing
1284
00:58:27,610 --> 00:58:29,375
and selling his health products.
1285
00:58:29,375 --> 00:58:33,179
And he was also paid by the insurance pool
1286
00:58:33,179 --> 00:58:36,969
to lecture to people to make
them more health conscious.
1287
00:58:36,969 --> 00:58:40,077
- On the back of his
truck he had a platform.
1288
00:58:40,077 --> 00:58:43,640
He had photographs of
himself doing all his feats.
1289
00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:47,323
In order to attract people he
would bend a couple of spikes,
1290
00:58:47,323 --> 00:58:50,630
twist a horseshoe, do odds and ends.
1291
00:58:50,630 --> 00:58:54,480
People would be curious and gather.
1292
00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:56,490
- He was such an intelligent man,
1293
00:58:56,490 --> 00:58:59,280
when it came to the anatomy.
1294
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:02,968
I think he was quite
successful in his products
1295
00:59:02,968 --> 00:59:06,020
that he sold, like soap.
1296
00:59:06,020 --> 00:59:10,400
- He would have special
soap with coconut oil in it.
1297
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:12,525
And at the end of his show,
1298
00:59:12,525 --> 00:59:16,253
he would try to segway into
the products that he sells
1299
00:59:16,253 --> 00:59:18,530
at that table over to
his left or something.
1300
00:59:18,530 --> 00:59:19,780
And he wet his beard,
1301
00:59:19,780 --> 00:59:24,450
he got the soap wet and he
started washing his beard.
1302
00:59:24,450 --> 00:59:26,931
Which was about four to six inches long.
1303
00:59:26,931 --> 00:59:28,890
And he said, it's good for the hair,
1304
00:59:28,890 --> 00:59:29,970
it's good for the skin,
1305
00:59:29,970 --> 00:59:31,870
it's good for the pores.
1306
00:59:31,870 --> 00:59:33,965
And then, I'll never
forget he went like these,
1307
00:59:33,965 --> 00:59:37,200
got some lather and it's also nutritious.
1308
00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:38,703
And he ate some of the lather.
1309
00:59:39,570 --> 00:59:42,150
Well, you can imagine the crowd going, oh.
1310
00:59:42,150 --> 00:59:43,360
And he goes no, no, it's okay.
1311
00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:44,330
You wanna try some?
1312
00:59:44,330 --> 00:59:46,433
- Well he talked about this health elixir
1313
00:59:46,433 --> 00:59:48,870
that he bent some steel bars,
1314
00:59:48,870 --> 00:59:51,129
probably 10 inches a foot long,
1315
00:59:51,129 --> 00:59:53,500
then he talked about some soap.
1316
00:59:53,500 --> 00:59:55,130
- He was there to sell his product,
1317
00:59:55,130 --> 00:59:56,313
not to perform.
1318
00:59:56,313 --> 01:00:00,887
But his performances were the
magnet to draw the people.
1319
01:00:00,887 --> 01:00:04,760
As he started talking about the product,
1320
01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:08,373
they would start to fall off a little bit.
1321
01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:12,553
And he was very much aware of that.
1322
01:00:12,553 --> 01:00:16,530
He would put the product down
and pick up the item again.
1323
01:00:16,530 --> 01:00:19,380
And you'd see the people
start sucking in again.
1324
01:00:19,380 --> 01:00:23,240
And he used to wink at me
showing me how to do this.
1325
01:00:23,240 --> 01:00:26,781
How do keep the people
attracted to what he was doing.
1326
01:00:26,781 --> 01:00:30,730
And so he could tie in his
products with his ability
1327
01:00:30,730 --> 01:00:33,070
to do what he was able to do.
1328
01:00:33,070 --> 01:00:35,620
- It's well beyond the
snake oil type business
1329
01:00:35,620 --> 01:00:38,100
that he could prove that
this was really a good thing
1330
01:00:38,100 --> 01:00:39,293
for your body and it worked for him.
1331
01:00:39,293 --> 01:00:42,870
And you know, he was satisfied
giving away his product
1332
01:00:42,870 --> 01:00:44,630
to people that doubted him and stuff.
1333
01:00:44,630 --> 01:00:49,450
You had to be convinced it's
gonna work and here's why.
1334
01:00:49,450 --> 01:00:52,321
- There was a lot of
quackery in those days.
1335
01:00:52,321 --> 01:00:54,510
If you look at really some
of the older magazines
1336
01:00:54,510 --> 01:00:56,140
from back in the early 19s.
1337
01:00:56,140 --> 01:01:00,170
There were a lot of guys that
just had some bizarre ideas.
1338
01:01:00,170 --> 01:01:05,170
Joe Greenstein was more
scientific in his approach.
1339
01:01:05,423 --> 01:01:07,894
A lot of things that he knew back then,
1340
01:01:07,894 --> 01:01:12,894
would probably still be valid to this day.
1341
01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:17,790
- He had a herb to cleanse the stomach.
1342
01:01:17,790 --> 01:01:20,760
- He used to quote a British doctor,
1343
01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:24,277
Sir Albert North Lane who said,
1344
01:01:24,277 --> 01:01:28,117
"constipation is the mother
and father of all disease.".
1345
01:01:28,117 --> 01:01:33,117
And he developed this
laxative that would marvelous,
1346
01:01:33,298 --> 01:01:35,960
it worked so well.
1347
01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:40,080
It was natural, it was herbal,
way ahead of it's time,
1348
01:01:40,080 --> 01:01:41,660
but it tasted awful.
1349
01:01:41,660 --> 01:01:44,593
- He said, did you ever
walk by the bathroom?
1350
01:01:44,593 --> 01:01:47,780
And the doors close and you hear a lion
1351
01:01:47,780 --> 01:01:48,730
on the other side of the door?
1352
01:01:48,730 --> 01:01:52,038
You hear all this roaring
and all these loud noises.
1353
01:01:52,038 --> 01:01:54,530
He says, elimination should be easy.
1354
01:01:54,530 --> 01:01:55,540
It should be smooth.
1355
01:01:55,540 --> 01:01:56,550
It should be regular.
1356
01:01:56,550 --> 01:01:58,123
You should not be straining.
1357
01:01:59,260 --> 01:02:03,111
He made his own liniment
for aches and pains.
1358
01:02:03,111 --> 01:02:05,424
You'd apply it to your skin.
1359
01:02:05,424 --> 01:02:07,949
People rubbed it on their temples,
1360
01:02:07,949 --> 01:02:10,800
it took away headaches.
1361
01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:12,881
- He's organic before it was popular.
1362
01:02:12,881 --> 01:02:14,880
If he was alive today,
1363
01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:16,880
he'd probably have a line of organic food
1364
01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:19,420
or something that would
be million dollar sellers.
1365
01:02:19,420 --> 01:02:22,470
- He developed all these
health products himself.
1366
01:02:22,470 --> 01:02:24,361
They were his own formulas.
1367
01:02:24,361 --> 01:02:28,881
- It was secret ingredients
that even I don't know.
1368
01:02:28,881 --> 01:02:31,714
- I don't know how he accomplished
a lot of these things.
1369
01:02:31,714 --> 01:02:34,420
You had to have some brains to do it.
1370
01:02:34,420 --> 01:02:36,650
- You know, today you got grocery stores
1371
01:02:36,650 --> 01:02:38,260
that just sell pills.
1372
01:02:38,260 --> 01:02:40,100
It's big, big business.
1373
01:02:40,100 --> 01:02:42,387
I'm happy people were listening to him.
1374
01:02:42,387 --> 01:02:45,301
- [Long John Nebel] Did you ever smoke?
1375
01:02:45,301 --> 01:02:47,670
- [Joseph] No, never smoked, no.
1376
01:02:47,670 --> 01:02:49,650
- [Long John Nebel] Have
you ever been a drinker?
1377
01:02:49,650 --> 01:02:50,730
I don't mean a lush but ...
1378
01:02:50,730 --> 01:02:52,469
- [Joseph] No, never.
1379
01:02:52,469 --> 01:02:55,738
I believe in moderation in everything.
1380
01:02:55,738 --> 01:02:58,862
Diet is a great thing.
1381
01:02:58,862 --> 01:03:03,630
But some people diet until
they die at a young age.
1382
01:03:03,630 --> 01:03:05,150
- Something else that he did,
1383
01:03:05,150 --> 01:03:08,230
that I found very interesting
was that he fasted
1384
01:03:08,230 --> 01:03:09,063
one day a week.
1385
01:03:09,063 --> 01:03:10,740
He cleansed the body.
1386
01:03:10,740 --> 01:03:12,566
- Wednesday was his day to fast.
1387
01:03:12,566 --> 01:03:15,177
And he did that as far as I remember.
1388
01:03:15,177 --> 01:03:16,470
All the years.
1389
01:03:16,470 --> 01:03:20,359
- Fasting is totally his visit to India.
1390
01:03:20,359 --> 01:03:22,786
Almost every good Hindu,
1391
01:03:22,786 --> 01:03:23,980
one day a week,
1392
01:03:23,980 --> 01:03:27,040
and the whole body does
need to be cleansed.
1393
01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:30,410
- Breakfast, breakfast
is composed of two words.
1394
01:03:30,410 --> 01:03:31,660
It's break and fast.
1395
01:03:31,660 --> 01:03:32,493
When you wake up,
1396
01:03:32,493 --> 01:03:34,050
you're supposed to be hungry.
1397
01:03:34,050 --> 01:03:37,310
He would say your digestive
system needs a rest also.
1398
01:03:37,310 --> 01:03:38,807
- Clean living.
1399
01:03:38,807 --> 01:03:42,360
He always professed clean living.
1400
01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:47,360
Don't eat anything that is
gonna do your body harm.
1401
01:03:48,710 --> 01:03:51,280
- You know God gave us
everything we need to eat right.
1402
01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:52,690
It's growing in the ground you know.
1403
01:03:52,690 --> 01:03:54,927
It's you can pick from
a tree or something.
1404
01:03:54,927 --> 01:03:56,680
Things that people eat today.
1405
01:03:56,680 --> 01:03:57,980
The chemicals they put in.
1406
01:03:57,980 --> 01:04:01,507
No wonder people are sick at 40 and 50.
1407
01:04:01,507 --> 01:04:05,710
And where he was at the
time was maybe 200 feet
1408
01:04:05,710 --> 01:04:06,620
from a graveyard.
1409
01:04:06,620 --> 01:04:09,400
He was at the one end of
the Great Allentown Fair.
1410
01:04:09,400 --> 01:04:11,373
And I remember him
pointing to the graveyard,
1411
01:04:11,373 --> 01:04:15,220
and saying you dig your grave
with your knife and fork.
1412
01:04:15,220 --> 01:04:18,778
- Strength was not the
key to what he was trying
1413
01:04:18,778 --> 01:04:20,540
to show people.
1414
01:04:20,540 --> 01:04:22,592
What he was trying to
show people was fitness
1415
01:04:22,592 --> 01:04:24,307
and health.
1416
01:04:24,307 --> 01:04:29,307
- He tried to inspire people
to live healthier lives,
1417
01:04:30,323 --> 01:04:33,638
take care of their body and mind.
1418
01:04:33,638 --> 01:04:38,180
That was his idea of trying
to convince people to live
1419
01:04:38,180 --> 01:04:39,143
a good life.
1420
01:04:40,110 --> 01:04:42,730
- [Joseph] Strength and health
are two different things.
1421
01:04:42,730 --> 01:04:43,640
- [Long John Nebel] That's what I think.
1422
01:04:43,640 --> 01:04:46,420
- [Joseph] I've seen
people three times the size
1423
01:04:46,420 --> 01:04:50,191
of my muscles sick and die at a young age.
1424
01:04:50,191 --> 01:04:53,490
I've again seen people
skinny like toothpicks
1425
01:04:53,490 --> 01:04:54,800
in perfect health.
1426
01:04:54,800 --> 01:04:57,047
Strength has nothing to do with health.
1427
01:04:57,047 --> 01:05:01,580
You cannot become strong unless
you are healthy internally.
1428
01:05:01,580 --> 01:05:03,370
- As well as he did with
the health products,
1429
01:05:03,370 --> 01:05:05,600
he had a much harder time
with other businesses.
1430
01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:08,572
He failed a lot.
1431
01:05:08,572 --> 01:05:13,130
- The myth about Jewish
businessmen is one that he can
1432
01:05:13,130 --> 01:05:16,842
really put to rest because he
was a terrible businessman.
1433
01:05:16,842 --> 01:05:18,920
- A health resort.
1434
01:05:18,920 --> 01:05:21,672
A panoramic mountain
house was a dream of his
1435
01:05:21,672 --> 01:05:23,761
for many years.
1436
01:05:23,761 --> 01:05:26,440
- The idea was it was
a place you could come
1437
01:05:26,440 --> 01:05:27,846
and focus on your health.
1438
01:05:27,846 --> 01:05:31,420
Which is common now, but it
really wasn't at the time.
1439
01:05:31,420 --> 01:05:33,160
- The family got together,
1440
01:05:33,160 --> 01:05:36,530
we all dug and made a swimming pool.
1441
01:05:36,530 --> 01:05:40,090
It was what they called
in Georgia, Cockalane.
1442
01:05:40,090 --> 01:05:42,695
All the tenants had their own room,
1443
01:05:42,695 --> 01:05:46,214
and there was a community
kitchen for everyone
1444
01:05:46,214 --> 01:05:48,823
do their own cooking.
1445
01:05:48,823 --> 01:05:50,789
Make their own meals.
1446
01:05:50,789 --> 01:05:53,253
- So you could learn
to cook a healthy meal
1447
01:05:53,253 --> 01:05:55,392
and then bring those skills back with you
1448
01:05:55,392 --> 01:05:57,060
to your everyday life.
1449
01:05:57,060 --> 01:05:59,790
- That along with many other ideas he had
1450
01:05:59,790 --> 01:06:01,840
never worked out.
1451
01:06:01,840 --> 01:06:04,680
- [Long John Nebel] It looks to me,
1452
01:06:04,680 --> 01:06:06,700
and I'm giving you a square account,
1453
01:06:06,700 --> 01:06:07,533
if somebody said,
1454
01:06:07,533 --> 01:06:08,366
"How is he?".
1455
01:06:08,366 --> 01:06:11,300
I'd say, "Well, he's gotta be about 65.".
1456
01:06:11,300 --> 01:06:12,805
How old are you, Joe?
1457
01:06:12,805 --> 01:06:15,401
- [Joseph] I'll be 87 my next birthday.
1458
01:06:15,401 --> 01:06:16,700
- [Long John Nebel] 87?
1459
01:06:16,700 --> 01:06:17,877
- [Joseph] That's right.
1460
01:06:17,877 --> 01:06:19,716
- Oh, he lied about his age all the time.
1461
01:06:19,716 --> 01:06:21,718
Who knows why?
1462
01:06:21,718 --> 01:06:25,100
Maybe vanity, maybe insecurity.
1463
01:06:25,100 --> 01:06:27,250
But he would lie about his age.
1464
01:06:27,250 --> 01:06:30,070
He always added 10 years to his age.
1465
01:06:30,070 --> 01:06:33,930
He never felt that what he
was doing at whatever age
1466
01:06:33,930 --> 01:06:36,309
it was was good enough.
1467
01:06:36,309 --> 01:06:39,020
If he did something and he was 60,
1468
01:06:39,020 --> 01:06:42,652
and he's day well, if
they thought I was 70,
1469
01:06:42,652 --> 01:06:45,057
that'd really be something.
1470
01:06:45,057 --> 01:06:49,880
I said, Pop, you're bending an iron bar,
1471
01:06:49,880 --> 01:06:53,180
cold rolled steel with your bare hands,
1472
01:06:53,180 --> 01:06:55,438
over your leg, over your arm.
1473
01:06:55,438 --> 01:06:57,680
And you're making it into a horseshoe
1474
01:06:57,680 --> 01:06:59,790
and you're 60 years old.
1475
01:06:59,790 --> 01:07:02,560
Nah, but 70, they'll think it's something.
1476
01:07:02,560 --> 01:07:05,336
60's is nah, somebody else can do that.
1477
01:07:05,336 --> 01:07:09,562
- He never saw what he did was incredible.
1478
01:07:09,562 --> 01:07:13,220
When he passed we got papers
from all over the world.
1479
01:07:13,220 --> 01:07:15,814
94 year old strong man dies.
1480
01:07:15,814 --> 01:07:19,979
And we at that point had
to then tell the newspapers
1481
01:07:19,979 --> 01:07:21,980
he was 84.
1482
01:07:21,980 --> 01:07:24,738
He had a touch of P.T.
Barnum in him for sure.
1483
01:07:24,738 --> 01:07:27,210
I think he just wanted
to give the audience
1484
01:07:27,210 --> 01:07:28,301
something special,
1485
01:07:28,301 --> 01:07:31,030
something they could remember him by.
1486
01:07:31,030 --> 01:07:33,847
- The Mighty Atom, Slim
the Hammerman, myself,
1487
01:07:33,847 --> 01:07:35,550
the strong men that do what we do,
1488
01:07:35,550 --> 01:07:38,990
we are what I call, old time strong men.
1489
01:07:38,990 --> 01:07:40,490
You have old time strong men,
1490
01:07:40,490 --> 01:07:44,906
which are strong men that
do things in performance.
1491
01:07:44,906 --> 01:07:48,590
You have the regular
strong men who are the guys
1492
01:07:48,590 --> 01:07:52,000
you see on TV that are
lifting the big stones,
1493
01:07:52,000 --> 01:07:55,310
pulling trucks and dead
lifting the big tires
1494
01:07:55,310 --> 01:07:56,150
things like that.
1495
01:07:56,150 --> 01:08:00,633
And then, you have another
group that are just grip guys.
1496
01:08:00,633 --> 01:08:03,540
The grip guys is closely associated with
1497
01:08:03,540 --> 01:08:04,470
the old time strong men.
1498
01:08:04,470 --> 01:08:07,070
The only difference is
the grip guys are saying,
1499
01:08:07,070 --> 01:08:09,190
okay, I'm going after this record.
1500
01:08:09,190 --> 01:08:11,650
I wanna bend this
particular piece of steel.
1501
01:08:11,650 --> 01:08:13,957
I wanna do as the toughest
horseshoe or whatever.
1502
01:08:13,957 --> 01:08:18,230
My group, the old time strong
men is solely thinking on
1503
01:08:18,230 --> 01:08:20,420
yes, we want to do world class feats.
1504
01:08:20,420 --> 01:08:23,080
But again, we're about the performance.
1505
01:08:23,080 --> 01:08:25,063
We're about keeping that art alive.
1506
01:08:26,136 --> 01:08:26,969
We're performance artists.
1507
01:08:26,969 --> 01:08:29,039
The things that's common between all of us
1508
01:08:29,039 --> 01:08:33,270
and people that are
inexperienced don't think about
1509
01:08:33,270 --> 01:08:35,436
is thumb strength.
1510
01:08:35,436 --> 01:08:38,720
This being strong.
1511
01:08:38,720 --> 01:08:39,909
If you think about this.
1512
01:08:39,909 --> 01:08:43,473
If my thumb is weak how could
I clamp around that nail?
1513
01:08:43,473 --> 01:08:46,730
And keep it from popping my thumbs open?
1514
01:08:46,730 --> 01:08:49,810
How could I take and tear the
corner off a deck of cards
1515
01:08:49,810 --> 01:08:52,270
or rip a thumb sized
chunk out of the side.
1516
01:08:52,270 --> 01:08:54,670
Or rip it into strips,
how could I do that?
1517
01:08:54,670 --> 01:08:56,150
When you're a performance artist,
1518
01:08:56,150 --> 01:08:59,280
you wanna have a unique act.
1519
01:08:59,280 --> 01:09:03,360
Everybody has the staple
items in their routine.
1520
01:09:03,360 --> 01:09:06,370
If you can't bend a 60
penny nail for example,
1521
01:09:06,370 --> 01:09:08,310
then step back until you can.
1522
01:09:08,310 --> 01:09:10,050
You're not a professional strong man.
1523
01:09:10,050 --> 01:09:12,470
Then, you look at being creative
1524
01:09:12,470 --> 01:09:14,840
and creating maybe what you might call
1525
01:09:14,840 --> 01:09:16,470
your signature feats.
1526
01:09:16,470 --> 01:09:17,330
Things that they say,
1527
01:09:17,330 --> 01:09:21,560
oh, you know what this guy
does this with his teeth.
1528
01:09:21,560 --> 01:09:23,170
Or this with his hair.
1529
01:09:23,170 --> 01:09:25,796
You know Mike, Mighty Atom's son.
1530
01:09:25,796 --> 01:09:27,900
He's 93 years old,
1531
01:09:27,900 --> 01:09:31,807
he's pulling cars and trucks
on America's Got Talent.
1532
01:09:31,807 --> 01:09:34,500
(applause)
1533
01:09:34,500 --> 01:09:37,930
And you don't really see
that out there today.
1534
01:09:37,930 --> 01:09:40,620
- My name is Mike Greenstein.
1535
01:09:40,620 --> 01:09:43,120
December I was 93.
1536
01:09:43,120 --> 01:09:45,986
- For anybody who doubts this is real,
1537
01:09:45,986 --> 01:09:47,776
just look at my uncle Mike.
1538
01:09:47,776 --> 01:09:49,600
He was 93 year old,
1539
01:09:49,600 --> 01:09:50,920
on the streets in Manhattan,
1540
01:09:50,920 --> 01:09:53,010
in front of thousands of people.
1541
01:09:53,010 --> 01:09:54,893
- [Announcer] Three, two, one, go!
1542
01:09:56,957 --> 01:10:00,066
- And he did the impossible.
1543
01:10:00,066 --> 01:10:01,380
- [Announcer] Go Mike go!
1544
01:10:01,380 --> 01:10:03,115
Go Mike Go!
1545
01:10:03,115 --> 01:10:04,032
Go Mike Go!
1546
01:10:06,924 --> 01:10:08,126
It's moving.
1547
01:10:08,126 --> 01:10:11,118
- There's no earthly reason
why a 93 year old man
1548
01:10:11,118 --> 01:10:12,310
would be able to do this,
1549
01:10:12,310 --> 01:10:14,710
other than the fact that
he just told himself
1550
01:10:14,710 --> 01:10:16,434
he was going to.
1551
01:10:16,434 --> 01:10:18,071
- [Announcer] Wow!
1552
01:10:18,071 --> 01:10:20,520
(applause)
1553
01:10:20,520 --> 01:10:21,570
- If that doesn't inspire you,
1554
01:10:21,570 --> 01:10:22,403
what does?
1555
01:10:23,721 --> 01:10:25,971
(applause)
1556
01:10:27,840 --> 01:10:30,220
- It just shows you he's not washed up,
1557
01:10:30,220 --> 01:10:33,280
he's not sitting in his
lazy boy with his teeth
1558
01:10:33,280 --> 01:10:34,230
back in the sink.
1559
01:10:34,230 --> 01:10:37,780
He's out there and he's chomping
down on piece of leather
1560
01:10:37,780 --> 01:10:38,710
and pulling a car.
1561
01:10:38,710 --> 01:10:40,400
And I'm like, oh my gosh,
1562
01:10:40,400 --> 01:10:41,233
93 years old.
1563
01:10:41,233 --> 01:10:43,020
It tells me that I can keep on going.
1564
01:10:44,853 --> 01:10:46,260
- [Long John Nebel] -
We've been talking with
1565
01:10:46,260 --> 01:10:48,920
a gentleman that I've
known for many many years,
1566
01:10:48,920 --> 01:10:51,580
Joe Greenstein, The Mighty Atom,
1567
01:10:51,580 --> 01:10:54,170
the strongest man in the world.
1568
01:10:54,170 --> 01:10:56,540
We were delighted to
have a chance to see him.
1569
01:10:56,540 --> 01:10:57,760
Thanks Joe, very much.
1570
01:10:57,760 --> 01:10:59,060
- [Joseph] Thank you John.
1571
01:11:00,270 --> 01:11:01,715
- Toward the end of his life,
1572
01:11:01,715 --> 01:11:06,713
even when he ended up in the hospital,
1573
01:11:06,713 --> 01:11:10,960
he would walk around from room to room,
1574
01:11:10,960 --> 01:11:13,797
refuse to stay in bed
talking to the patients
1575
01:11:13,797 --> 01:11:18,797
telling them that it
pays to fight and go on
1576
01:11:19,320 --> 01:11:20,393
and carry on.
1577
01:11:21,340 --> 01:11:25,880
My brother Irving and
myself had to bring a dozen
1578
01:11:25,880 --> 01:11:30,880
60 penny spikes to the hospital daily.
1579
01:11:33,330 --> 01:11:35,880
He walked around from room to room
1580
01:11:35,880 --> 01:11:39,550
bending spikes for the
patients to show them
1581
01:11:39,550 --> 01:11:42,221
that even with his illness,
1582
01:11:42,221 --> 01:11:45,890
it pays to fight and
carry on and keep doing.
1583
01:11:45,890 --> 01:11:47,693
This went on for weeks.
1584
01:11:48,630 --> 01:11:53,400
The pains they said was
very severe at one time.
1585
01:11:53,400 --> 01:11:56,541
They sedated him because of the pain.
1586
01:11:56,541 --> 01:12:00,250
15, 20 minutes before
that he was walking around
1587
01:12:00,250 --> 01:12:02,100
bending the spikes with the patients,
1588
01:12:02,100 --> 01:12:03,906
when they sedated him,
1589
01:12:03,906 --> 01:12:08,010
15 minutes later he
was gone, he passed on.
1590
01:12:08,010 --> 01:12:11,600
And that's how he devoted his life.
1591
01:12:11,600 --> 01:12:16,043
Showing people that it
pays not to give up.
1592
01:12:18,000 --> 01:12:22,042
- There was absolutely nothing
special about Joe Greenstein
1593
01:12:22,042 --> 01:12:25,470
or Mike Greenstein other
than the fact that they
1594
01:12:25,470 --> 01:12:28,963
convinced themselves
their going to be special.
1595
01:12:30,070 --> 01:12:32,550
And what if you could apply
that to everywhere else
1596
01:12:32,550 --> 01:12:34,050
in your life?
1597
01:12:34,050 --> 01:12:35,987
There's no reason why you
can't apply that to science.
1598
01:12:35,987 --> 01:12:38,700
Or to athletics or to your job
1599
01:12:38,700 --> 01:12:40,016
or to your relationships.
1600
01:12:40,016 --> 01:12:43,553
If you convince yourself
something will happen,
1601
01:12:43,553 --> 01:12:45,663
it'll happen.
1602
01:12:45,663 --> 01:12:49,598
I don't think we even
know what is possible.
1603
01:12:49,598 --> 01:12:52,015
(calm music)
1604
01:13:06,113 --> 01:13:08,780
(upbeat music)
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