All language subtitles for The Dead Files s14e04 Puppet Master.eng

It's physically assaulting her.

The dead kids hate them.

It's killing me 'cause
I can't protect my family.

I was literally pushed.

I'm being, like,
grabbed and thrown.

She'd been held down
and stabbed,

And her throat was slashed.

This is the kind of case
that would have haunted me.

This is
a poltergeist haunting.

my god.

I don't feel good here.

I want to get out.

I'm hearing
the devil's triangle.

My name is amy allan.

I see dead people.

I think he might've
been a stalker.

I speak to dead people,
and they speak to me.

He will kill you.
He has killed people.

But there's only one way to know
if my findings are real...

They're being possessed.

...I rely on my partner.

I'm steve dischiavi.

I'm a retired new york city
homicide detective...

How many people died here
over the years?

...And I know every person,
every house has secrets.

It's my job to reveal them.

But steve and I never speak...

We never communicate
during an investigation.

...Until the very end.

This sketch
is like a nightmare.

When we uncover if it's safe
for you to stay...

I never thought
the biggest problem was me.

...Or time to get out.

He could, more than likely,
kill you.

So, I'm in one of my favorite
cities -- indianapolis.

We're here to try to help
a woman named julie.

Now, here's the story.

She and her husband
were trying to do a good thing

When they recently adopted
their two granddaughters,

But ever since
the girls moved in,

Activity has been violent
and off the charts.

She sounds pretty shaken up
and says she's worried

Someone's gonna get hurt.

Boy.

The emotions here are anxiety

And feelings
of intense nervousness.

I did hear somebody
whispering in my ear,

Saying "murder" twice.

This is not good.

So, julie,
when we spoke on the phone,

It sounded like you
were pretty desperate.

What the hell is it like
living here?

It's hell.

The activity is just
out of control.

Okay. So, who all is living
in the house with you?

This is alexis, brieanna,
me, and my husband.

So, how old's alexis?

Alexis is 4.

Okay.

Brieanna's 7.

7.
Yep.

Okay.
They're adorable, these kids.

Thank you.

You and your husband
have been here...

Almost 20 years.

Has there always been
activity?

The whole time,

But it just kind of went crazy
after the adoption.

What kind of things
are you guys dealing with?

Well, we hear footsteps.

Things are moving
on their own.

We're seeing shadow figures.

We have intense mood swings.

And now we're being
physically attacked.

What exactly are we
talking about?

We're talking about being
pushed, poked, prodded,

And it's mainly focused on me
and my husband right now,

But I'm afraid
it's gonna turn

And start attacking
our daughters.

It's terrifying when
your children are terrified.

What if we can't fix this

And the only thing
you can do is move?

I promised, you know,
to protect them at all costs,

No matter
what I got to do.

I'd do anything in the world
for them.

So, there's a dead woman
out here.

I feel like her emotional state
is so intense

And filled
with fear and sadness.

Her emotions would definitely
affect people

'cause they're really raw,
really intense.

And what kind of effect?

Fear, paranoia, wanting to run,
and then the extreme depression.

I was told, "stop, or there will
be some kind of accident."

Okay, so what's
going on in here?

There's a lot of anxiety
going on in this house.

A lot of my clients
talk about having anxiety,

But everybody's got their own
feelings that come over them.

What is it for you?

Just scared all the time.

You know, you feel like
something bad's about to happen.

Any other emotional things
going on?

Yes -- depression,
mainly for my husband.

He goes into a mood to where
you can't talk to him,

You know,
cries all the time.

Okay.

To watch my husband
go through this...

Yeah.
I know it's tough.

Yeah.

So the anxiety
and the depression --

When you guys leave,
does it get any better?

Yes.

Our moods and anxieties, like,

Feel like they're gone
when we leave the house.

Okay, anything else?

Yes -- things moving
on their own all the time.

Okay, like what?

Well, me and my husband were
both in the master bathroom.

His shaving razor
came flying off at us.

And you're positive
no one

Accidentally bumped it
off the shelf?

Absolutely.

You're lucky nobody got hurt.

Right.

So, anything else like
that happening?

Things missing, you know,
disappearing.

Stuff that's disappearing --

How do you know it's not
the kids playing games?

Because we put it up
out of their reach.

So all this emotional stuff
you're going through

And these things flying
all over the place,

What do you think
that's all about?

I'm unsure.
I just know it's evil.

This is wicked bad.

So, I'm seeing living people,
major drama,

Yelling and arguing.

What's going on here?

There's a pk manifestation

That seems to have developed
from a living male.

Is there any way
that might affect the living?

Yes -- objects disappearing,
having things thrown at them.

It's just bad.

So, this is where you
and your husband sleep?

No.
Me and my girls sleep here.

My husband sleeps downstairs.

Whatever is going on won't
allow him to sleep up here.

That can't be good
for your marriage.

No.

Okay, so what's
going on in here?

We're seeing all kinds
of shadow figures.

Something you could see
through, or is it solid?

It's pretty solid.

So, is anybody else
seeing these shadow figures?

Yeah, my husband.

He sees it come down the stairs
just about every night.

Have you seen anything else
like that?

Children running back and forth,
playing.

Exactly where are you
seeing these kids?

Right here in the hallway.

What age do you think
they are?

I would say probably about 4, 7,
somewhere in that age --

Close to my girls, but...

I was gonna ask you, do you
think it could have been them?

No. I don't have a boy.

Anything else?
The physical attacks.

And what are we talking about?
What kind of attacks?

Scratches.
Mine are always on my legs.

My husband wakes up
with scratches on his back.

Anything else
like that happening?

I was sleeping one night with
my foot out of the blanket,

And it felt like somebody
punched the middle of my foot

So bad that it was on fire.

My husband, he's been pushed
down the stairs a few times.

That's dangerous.

Yeah, yeah, and very scary.

So, I do think that the female
here has been

Physically attacked
by this manifestation.

Do you know
how it's attacking her?

Strangling sensation,
but she could be, like,

Just walking around and that
suddenly happens, you know --

Being, like, grabbed --
like, grabbed and thrown.

Anything else?

Our health is declining,

And it's one thing after
another, me and my husband both.

People get sick.

Why do you think it's the
paranormal that's causing this?

It's just too much.
Okay.

I've had 23 surgeries since
I've lived in this house,

And none of them
are related to the next one.

I feel like I'm being
attacked.

So you guys are dealing with
some serious health issues...

Yes, yes.

...I mean, the type
that could kill you.

Yeah, and that's what
I'm afraid it's gonna do,

And I want to be here
to protect our girls.

I meant to ask you downstairs,
and I totally forgot,

But what were the circumstances
of you adopting your grandkids?

Well, my son-in-law
couldn't provide,

You know, a stable environment
for these kids,

And neither could she.

So I had to step in.

So did your daughter and
son-in-law spend time here?

Yes.

They actually lived here
on and off for many, many years.

You've done a good thing
taking those girls in.

But it's hard because
I'm afraid of my own home,

And it's killing me because
I can't protect my family.

Yeah.

Can you tell any more about
who this is coming from?

A living male that is either
living here or lived here,

Had pk abilities, creating a
poltergeist-type haunting

And then created
this pk manifestation.

It's physically assaulting her.

Pushing her down the stairs
could kill her.

So, brieanna,
how old are you?

7.

7. And, lexi,
how old are you?

4.

4. Okay.

So, I understand there's
some scary stuff

Going on in the house here.

And is there anything that
you can tell me about?

I saw a woman
in the hallway.

You did? Okay.

What did she look like?

She had black hair,
and -- I don't know.

I couldn't see her face.

So, lexi, honey, have you seen
anything that's scared you?

Yeah.

What did you see?

Okay.

It was staring at you?

So, is there anything else
that you've seen

You can tell me about?

When lexi was in my room
playing with a little girl

Doing ring-around-the-rosy,
but nobody was there.

So you saw her playing
with somebody that wasn't there?

You remember that, honey?

Yes.

That scares you.

Yeah.

So, you guys like living here
with mama and papa?

Yeah.
Yes.

They love you guys
very much.

Do you know that?
Yeah.

So if we can make it
where there's no more

Scary things in this house,
would you want to stay here?

Yeah.
Yeah.

Yeah?
Okay, good.

I'm seeing decomposing
dead people.

They're all lined up
in order of height.

They were all boys --
five or six boys.

And they're wearing clothes,

But they're all kind of torn
and tattered.

The clothes -- like, it all
kind of seems the same.

I think they're from
a long time ago.

The oldest boy is 14 or 15.

It's hard for him to talk

Because he has dirt
in his mouth.

I'm told that they did not
die together,

But they died one after
the other pretty quick.

And I'm getting that
they don't trust adults.

So, dave,
your wife called us in

Because she feels whatever is
in this house is dangerous,

Especially for the grandkids.

I mean, what are your thoughts
on that?

Yes.
Okay.

Yes, indeed.

Now, did you believe in the
paranormal before

All this stuff started?
no.

No. I was a real disbeliever.

And everything
that's happened to me --

Yeah, I'm
a believer now.

Yes.
Okay.

Okay, so, do a favor
and tell me about

Some of the experiences
you've had.

You'll hear --
constantly hear footsteps

Running across the floors.

Could it have been
one of the kids?

No, nobody was home at the time,
just me.

Is there anything else?

Well, one time
when I was home vacuuming,

Coming out of the bedroom was
little children's footprints,

And I'd just vacuumed.

And nobody else
was in the house.

Julie had mentioned
that she saw a boy and a girl.

Yes, in the upstairs hallway
is where they like to play,

And when I've seen them,

They were dressed
in some old clothing.

That's strange.

The boys are here
because they want help.

Do you know if the living
would have any interactions?

Yes.

I totally think that the people
see them constantly.

I believe that they hear them.

They're also protective,

And they don't want
the children here --

The living children --
to die like they did.

The adults are afraid of them.

The dead kids hate them.

Why do they hate them?

They feel like they're gonna
harm the kids.

They scare the ****
out of the adults to stay away.

So, dave, are there
any other experiences

You could tell me about?

Mostly up in the bedroom.

Every time I sleep up there,
I get scratched.

So, your wife had mentioned to
me about the scratches, as well.

She also told me you got pushed.
Tell me about that.

I was starting down
the stairs,

And I was literally pushed,
and there was nobody there.

And you didn't slip
or anything like that?

No, no -- 'cause it came
from above,

And I went down this way.

You're lucky you didn't
break your neck.

I could have died.
I mean, it's a long way down.

Yeah.
Yeah.

What if amy says you guys
got to get the hell out of here?

Then I guess we're gonna
get the hell out of here

Because I took a vow to protect
those two little girls,

And that's exactly
what I intend to do.

I know it's not easy talking
about it, either, dave.

No, I'm just worried
about my girls.

Can I get a minute?

Yeah, absolutely, sure.

I saw panic, crying, chaos.

A lot of the anger is out here
from a living person.

I'm getting, like, a male --
kind of heavier-set, I think.

There is so much fear,
and he is punching the walls.

Maybe he's venting out here
or something.

I don't know what's going on
with this person.

Yeah, he, like, can't
control himself.

He's, like, losing his mind.

He doesn't know what to do,
has just had it -- just had it.

Very clear, a male voice --
"it's a roller coaster,

And once you start the ride,
you can't stop it or get off."

I don't feel good here.

I don't feel good here,
and I don't know why.

I don't like it.
I want to get out.

So, as soon as I get to town,

The first call I make
is to the local cops.

And this time, it paid off.

I'm headed over to the local
sheriff's office

Because one of the guys knows

All about
my client's neighborhood

And says he found
a bizarre homicide

That took place right on
julie's property.

Well, colonel, I appreciate you
helping me out with this case.

So, that homicide that happened
on my client's property,

What can you tell me about it?

At the time of the homicide,

The family farm was owned
by a guy named isaac sutton.

Okay,
so our buddy isaac here --

Who did he live
on that farm with?

So, he had several homes
on the property.

A lot of his extended family
lived on the property, too.

The home where the homicide
happened belonged to

Isaac's mother-in-law, sara.

All right.
The homicide -- what happened?

So, on the night of
March 7, 1887,

There was reports of somebody
walking around the property

Going door-to-door
to look for,

You know, money, shelter, food,
whatever they could get.

He was dingy, dirty.

Came to the conclusion
that he's not from the area,

Probably homeless.

All right, so, we got a vagrant
running around and trying to get

Anything he can from people
that live in the area?

Yes.

Isaac, just as a precaution,

Sends his 23-year-old son,
cornelius,

Over to the mother-in-law's
house -- sara's house --

To make sure
things were gonna be okay.

All right, so, I can see
where this is going.

So, what happened?

It's a little after midnight.
This guy did show up.

Cornelius hears this,
wakes up, and then grabs a gun.

Then he fires a shot
from a small-caliber pistol

From inside the residence out
the window to scare the guy off.

So the next morning,
they wake up.

They walk outside and find
the guy dead on their property

With a bullet hole
shot in his chest.

Police came out
and ruled it self-defense.

Have they got a name
on this guy?

Henry mcavoy.

Henry mcavoy.

They ended up working him back
to a marion county workhouse.

He escaped from this facility.

What made this guy escape?
Do we have any idea?

It was rough living conditions.

And a year after
this facility opened,

They did an article on that,

And here's the article
that they wrote on that

With all of the horrible
conditions that took place.

Schoolboy
in prison stripes, okay.

I can understand why
this guy

Wanted to get the hell
out of there.

There's a man behind me.

He's got a double-barrel
shotgun, this guy.

He's wearing thick jeans.

He's about 5-foot-9--
cowboy boots and hat.

He's white.

I would say he's probably
in his 40s.

It's a guy that I would picture,
like, straight out of texas.

You know what I'm saying?

But we're not in texas.

And he was, like, a ranch owner.

I mean, I don't know where
the boys come in,

But I heard,
you know, wayward boys.

He is a bad man, abuser.

He, like, basically
made them work

All the time, these children.

It seems like he just kind of

Worked them to death,
you know...

...And was abusive
in all different ways

With these boys,
specifically.

And he's kicking them
into the graves.

So, one of the local
genealogists has called me

And says he found
something really strange.

Turns out, the original owner

Suffered a lot of death
and tragedy on the land,

And each one of those deaths
involved the number 11.

Sounds a little woo-woo to me,

But I want to see
what this is all about.

So, john, I appreciate you
helping me out

With my case here.

So, on the phone,
you mentioned that the guy

That owned my client's property
went through a lot of suffering.

What do we know about this guy,
and when did he get here?

Well,
his name was henry alcorn.

He bought his first
piece of property in indiana

In about 1821.

He was an irish immigrant,

Came out here prospecting land,
and ended up farming.

Do we know anything
about this guy,

What kind of guy he was?

The history books say
that he was an eccentric.

Okay.

He was stern.

They say that he didn't have
a real great sense of humor.

All right, john.

So let's get to the death
and the suffering

And this weird thing
with the number 11.

What's the story with that?

If a man could have
an unlucky number,

Henry's unlucky number was 11.

First death was his wife,
frances.

She died in 1832,
and she was 32 years old.

Okay.

They had been married
about 11 years.

Shortly after that, around 1835,

His first son, henry jr.,
died when he was 11 years old.

All right, so that's two things
with the number 11.

I mean, it could be
a coincidence.

Well, after that,
he marries a young lady

By the name of sally mcclintock,
and she died in 1847.

They were also married 11 years.

11 years.
all right.

So nobody told this woman,

"don't stay with this guy
past 10 years?"

Apparently not.

He went on and married a third
wife, by the name of nancy.

Okay.

And she died after
11 years of marriage.

So three wives die at 11 years
of marriage for the guy.

His son dies at 11.

How'd this guy deal
with all this death?

Henry was a pretty
religious guy.

1854, he and his son-in-law
founded a presbyterian church

There on his property.

What happened to him?

He lives
a pretty long life...

Okay.
...About 87 years.

He ends up being buried
at the church that he founded.

Okay. So he's buried on my
client's original property? Yes.

All right, so one of these
stones is henry's grave.

Yes.

Do we know who
the other ones are?

They're his first wife
and his last wife and his son.

A sad story with this guy.
It's a shame.

There's another dead guy
up here.

He's sad in here.

I want to cry.

And then I'm hearing,
over and over again,

This guy saying, you know,

"in the name of the father,
son, and the holy ghost."

Can you tell anything
about this guy in life?

He was older.

He's like, "like I said,
I lived here for a long time --

Like 40 years."

I feel sick with him.

I think he had a wife, but he
doesn't want to talk about it.

He's depressed.
He wants to leave.

So I'm thinking maybe the house
was there.

Like, I tried to talk to him
about his wife.

He didn't want to talk
about her.

He doesn't want to talk --

He doesn't really want
to talk about anything

Except for that he needs
to get the **** out of here.

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So far, I've got a family
convinced they're in danger

On a property where a homeless
man was shot and killed.

But I need to see
if there's anything else.

Searching through old records,

I find the horrific story
about a young girl

Who was brutally murdered
in 1984.

As it turns out, key evidence
in this case

Was found very close to
julie and dave's property.

So, I'm headed out to meet my
old friend and author

David domine.

Now, he looked into this
homicide for me

And says this case was
full of twists and turns.

Well, david, it's good
to see you again.

So, this homicide -- what do you
know about the victim?

Well, your victim
was an 11-year-old girl.

Her name was peggy sue altice.

She was about 5 feet tall,
and she had blondish-brown hair.

What a cute kid.

All right, so, what do we know
about the murder?

It was November 12, 1984.

Peggy sue's mother
left late that afternoon.

When she came back that night,
peggy sue was gone.

Right away, her mother
was kind of suspicious.

She alerted the police.

Five days later, hunters in
the next county over found

Peggy sue's nude body
lying in the snow.

She had been held down
and raped,

Repeatedly stabbed,
and her throat was slashed.

Geez.

Now, you mentioned on the
phone there were some twists and turns in this case.

Yeah.

From that point forward, things
start to get crazy really fast.

So, just a couple days
after they found her body,

Peggy sue's 24-year-old cousin
killed himself.

Right away,
this aroused suspicion.

The police investigated,
but they were never able

To really connect him
to the murder.

But what happened is,
they started zeroing in

On other family members,

And they found out
peggy sue's brother-in-law

Had a record
of sexually assaulting her.

There was a trial.

He was eventually
convicted of murder.

He went to prison for life,
but then we have another twist.

Eventually, dna evidence
exonerated him.

And in 2000, he was released
after 14 years in prison.

all right.

So back to square one,
basically, right?

That's right.

The thing is, the dna led them
to someone else --

A guy named joseph mccormick.
Okay.

And he eventually was tried
for the murder,

But they weren't able
to pin the murder on him.

They were able to
convict him of rape,

But get this --
he only got six years.

The thing is, he talked, and he
said other people were involved.

And one of these people involved
was a guy named kenneth munson.

And munson, at the time,
was living at the property

Right next door
to where your clients are.

Okay. So now what?

They went and they
tore the place up.

They started digging,
and they did find clothing

And they found her shoes,

But they never did find
the murder weapon. All right.

So they wind up convicting
munson for the murder?

They did try munson,

But they weren't able to convict
him of the murder, either.

They got him on battery,
and, once again, six years.

So today, officially,
this murder is still unsolved.

This is the kind of case
that would have haunted me...

...When I was on the job,
you know? Yeah.

I'm getting nervous.
I'm getting real nervous.

I feel really uncomfortable
walking by this place.

I'm seeing that depressed
woman again.

I think she was murdered.

She is running --
running away, saying,

"I have to get away,
or he will get me."

She has a baby face,
large, brown, round eyes.

And I feel, like,
a stabbing sensation

In my abdomen below my ribcage.

She is laying facedown in
the dirt, looking at the grass.

And any idea
when this was?

1990s.

She relives her death
over and over again.

It was not on this land.

She's extremely sad,
and she is laying,

You know, dying,
and she's crying.

I saw several disturbing things
on my walk,

But the pk manifestation
attacking the living

Concerns me the most.

There was a male and a female
that were in the bed.

The female is being
strangled.

He is kind of
on the thinner side.

Okay.

Amy, is this what you saw?

Yes.

Now that amy and I have
completed our investigations,

We're ready to reveal
our findings to each other

And our clients
for the first time.

So, amy, I would like you
to meet julie,

And this is her husband, dave.

Now, they've lived in this house
for about 20 years,

And they've always had activity.

But a couple of years ago,

They adopted their
adorable grandchildren.

This is brieanna, who's 7,
and this is lexi, who's 4.

Now, ever since the girls
moved in,

Activity has gotten more
and more violent,

And neither one of them
think it's safe

For anybody to be here.

So now that amy knows a little
bit about what's going on,

Let's talk about her walk.

The first thing
that I came into contact with

Was actually
a group of dead boys.

They did range in age
from about 7 to 14.

I got that they were from
quite some time ago.

They all had on the same
tattered clothing,

And I got that they did not die
at the same time,

And they did not die here,

But each one of them died
from a similar cause.

They had lined themselves
up in a row,

And there was a guy
behind them with a gun,

And he was kicking them
into unmarked graves.

He seemed like a jailer
or, like, a keeper.

I got that he, unfortunately,
abused these boys.

He had worked them to death.

So, there's something I came
across in my research

That I think
we ought to know about.

Back in the late 1800s,

There was a workhouse
down the road from here.

Here's an article about it.

So, in the article,
it talks about guards with guns

Abusing young boys
in the workhouse,

Kind of like
what you described earlier.

****. Okay.

So is it possible that
those boys you ran into

Could be from this workhouse?

Yes.

Wow.

So sad.

They were drawn
to this location

Because they became attracted
to the children here,

The living children.

They were afraid that these kids
could be abused,

And they're here
to protect them.

I do feel that, on occasion,
the living may see them.

I've seen a little boy
and a little girl upstairs.

I've literally followed them
down the hallway,

And they go into the one bedroom
on that side of the house.

And once I get in there,
they're gone.

Interesting.

You also may hear them.

The living kids
are interacting with them.

They are talking with them.

I used to sit here
with the baby monitor

And listen to lexi play
with these kids.

And the minute I'd walk up,
it's, "who are you talking to?"

"well, that was my friend,
but you can't see him."

You know, what I thought
was pretty interesting

Is when you vacuumed.

Tell amy that story.
- I vacuumed upstairs.

There were three footprints.

No shoes --
you could see the toe marks.

That makes sense.

So, now, is all this stuff
caused by these dead boys?

More than likely, yeah.

Because of their own
personal issues

And what they went through

And their need to protect
these living children,

They're aggressive
towards adults.

My goodness.

Maybe now just tell amy a little
bit why you have the kids.

'cause my daughter
and son-in-law

Couldn't be the parents
that they needed to be,

And somebody had to step up
and take them, so we did.

Yeah.

These boys want to protect
the girls here from any adults.

Correct.

And they're targeting them

'cause they're the only
adults here.

Right.

And these boys don't realize

That we are trying
to protect them.

Right.

right.

So, what else
did you encounter?

The next dead person that
I encountered was a male.

This guy is extremely
depressed.

The things that I was
able to get

Was that, at one point,
he owned the land.

He stated that he lived here
for a very long time,

Like over 40 years.

He indicated he was pretty old
when he died,

Probably in his 70s.

I did ask him about his wife.

He didn't want to talk
about her.

What his whole thing was,

Was that he, frankly, just wants
to get the hell out of here.

I think that living people
would experience

His emotions and his energy,

So that would be things like
depression and paranoia.

- You all right, buddy?
- Yep.

She hit a nerve
with the depression?

Yeah.

It just came on all of a sudden.

It stopped me from working.

It stopped me from going out
of my own home.

Wow. Okay.

Well, that would explain maybe
some of what

You're going through.

Some of the things amy said
reminded me of the first guy

Who lived on this property.

Now, his name was henry alcorn,

And he started
a farm here in 1821.

Alcorn suffered a lot of death

In his time
on the property here,

And it all had a weird
connection to the number 11.

In 1832, henry's first wife
died on the property

After 11 years of marriage.

Then in 1835, one of his sons
died at the age of 11.

He remarried.

And the second wife died in 1847
after 11 years of marriage.

Wow.
So this guy marries a third time.

You'd think the word would
have got out -- don't marry him.

But he lost his wife in 1861,
also on the property,

And believe it or not,
it was at 11 years of marriage.

So, now, what he did to help
to deal with all this loss,

He founded a church
on the property.

In addition to the church,
there was a cemetery,

Which is right down the block,

And you could see it
when you drive up.

Told you I knew that cemetery
had something to do with this.

He's buried up there,
two of his wives,

And the 11-year-old son.

Interesting.

Anything else?

Throughout my walk,
I kept getting waves

Of negative emotions,

Actually coming from
a living male who is an empath.

This male, to me, seemed to
be around the age of 40.

He had short hair
and was on the heavier side,

And I got that he either
lived here now or recently.

Either way, his emotions
and his energy are very present,

And they're affecting
this location

In an extremely negative way.

I don't know what's going on
with this person.

Yeah, he, like,
can't control himself.

He's, like, losing his mind.

He is punching the walls.

Just had it -- just had it.

The next thing I saw was him
arguing with a female upstairs.

The bad thing was,
was that this living male

Who was an empath
also has pk abilities.

So all of these negative
emotions from this male

Have now manifested
into a separate entity.

This is commonly known
as a poltergeist haunting.

My god.

I think you and I have an idea
who she might be describing.

I believe it's my son-in-law.

- And how old is he?
-37.

37, 38.

He has been convicted
of battery and theft. What?

He's the reason
we have the girls.

He's the reason why.

Damn.

I'm sorry.
I'm not.

I got two beautiful
little girls out of the deal,

But now I'm just trying to
figure out how to protect them.

So, now, I've heard you talk
about pk manifestations before,

But how would this one
affect them?

One thing is, items
might randomly disappear,

Things being thrown at you,
like objects.

- The razor.
- A razor blade?

Yeah, we were in
the bathroom together

Getting ready
for work one morning,

And they just shot off
the mirror

And came right past our faces.

You could also see this, and it
would probably look like a --

More of a male, human-form
shape, but shadowy.

Now, you guys have been
seeing shadow figures all over the place.

I do.
I see him all the time.

Pretty much almost every night.

A black shadow always goes up
the stairs.

Now, could that be
from the pk manifestation?

Yes.

Being around this thing
is awful emotionally.

Emotional swings, anger,
anxiety.

We talked a little bit,
both of us, about mood swings

And how it's really
affecting your guys' marriage.

Yes.
All the time.

It's just like living hell.

Everybody's mood, you can just
see it in everybody's face.

Everybody just --
our demeanor changes.

Even -- it seems like
it's even affecting the kids,

Which has
really, really taken a toll.

I mean, we leave this house,
and everything seems

So much different.

And then the minute we get back,
it's tension.

The most concerning thing,
though,

Is that it can be physical.

Pushing you down the stairs
is a concern of mine.

I was coming out of the bedroom
and coming down,

And I got to the top
of the stairs,

And I was pushed --
literally two hands in my back.

So it's happened?

Pushed down the stairs.

So, julie, tell her where
you got your scratch.

Mine's always on the bottom
of my legs,

Like, on the side of my calves,
and it feels like burning.

I felt like this thing
was attacking

A living woman here
constantly.

Well, I've had 23 surgeries,
from an aneurysm

To a bowel rupture

To blowing my knee out
for no reason.

I did have a sketch done of what
I was perceiving of you

Being attacked
by the pk manifestation.

You're not gonna want
to see this.

my god.

So,
this is a bucket of bad.

This thing is extremely
well-developed.

It has the power to kill.

Yeah, it ain't over.
It ain't over.

No one's taking my girls.

Just wait ****.
Just wait.

Yes, yeah.

So, julie, the other day,
you told me you thought

Whatever was here might kill you
and then move on to the kids.

Yep.

Unfortunately, you weren't
too far off.

Now for the big question.

Is there a way
to get rid of this crap

So you can live here in peace
and give these kids

The safe, stable environment
that they deserve?

For that answer, I'm gonna
turn it over to amy.

There's a lot going on here,

But you have elements
that can be taken care of.

Thank god.

What I'm going to propose here
is to bring in a team,

And this will include
several sensitives

Who have different types
of abilities,

And then they're going
to do everything

That needs to be done.

First off, the dead boys will
be relatively easy to move on

Once they feel
that the girls are safe.

As far as with
the pk manifestation,

The team, they'll cut the tie
to the living agent.

Once that happens,
it will leave on its own.

Will they start to
feel better?

Yes.

So, what are your thoughts
on the whole thing?

I hope it can be fixed.

We don't want to leave.

- I don't want to leave.
- The girls love it here.

They absolutely love this house.
- They love their house.

So, I mean, are you gonna
do what amy tells you?

Anything for them girls --
anything.

They're lucky to have you.

I just want to get back
to a normal life.

Yeah, there's hope here.

Absolutely.

Whatever it takes.

I really hope
julie and dave follow my advice.

If they do, they'll be able
to live in their house in peace,

And most importantly,
their grandchildren

Will have a normal childhood.

Hi, guys.
Just wanted to give you an update.

Thank you, amy,
for sending your team.

Absolutely.
They did a wonderful job.

They came and cleansed
the house,

A reclaiming of the house,

And so far,
everything feels great.

Even the girls, they're
actually upstairs right now.

It's nice and quiet,
so we're very grateful.

We're just ecstatic to have
our house back.

So, again, thanks, guys.
Thank you.

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