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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:10,244 --> 00:00:12,544 There's blood all over the walls. 2 00:00:12,546 --> 00:00:14,313 This is a nightmare. 3 00:00:14,315 --> 00:00:15,647 He's crazy. 4 00:00:15,649 --> 00:00:17,249 I don't feel good. 5 00:00:17,251 --> 00:00:18,650 I hate being in my home. 6 00:00:18,652 --> 00:00:20,953 I think that it can cause death. 7 00:00:22,523 --> 00:00:24,990 We did mess around with the Ouija board. 8 00:00:26,127 --> 00:00:28,927 Somebody is doing Ouija board 9 00:00:28,929 --> 00:00:32,831 and has somehow summoned these things. 10 00:00:32,833 --> 00:00:34,533 You're busted. Forget about it. 11 00:00:34,535 --> 00:00:37,035 Never seen such interaction 12 00:00:37,037 --> 00:00:41,173 between a living person and a shadow person before. 13 00:00:41,175 --> 00:00:43,709 This is not a good situation. 14 00:00:43,711 --> 00:00:45,577 My name is Amy Allan. 15 00:00:45,579 --> 00:00:47,179 There's death here. 16 00:00:47,181 --> 00:00:48,914 Don't wanna go down there. 17 00:00:48,916 --> 00:00:50,182 I see dead people. 18 00:00:50,184 --> 00:00:52,284 They hide in the walls and they watch. 19 00:00:52,286 --> 00:00:54,953 I speak to dead people... 20 00:00:54,955 --> 00:00:57,756 She's definitely a serial killer. 21 00:00:57,758 --> 00:00:59,558 ...and they speak to me. 22 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:01,727 She's going to torture them. 23 00:01:01,729 --> 00:01:05,531 But there's only one way to know if my findings are real. 24 00:01:05,533 --> 00:01:07,666 They were all murdered. 25 00:01:07,668 --> 00:01:09,168 I rely on my partner. 26 00:01:09,170 --> 00:01:10,736 I'm Steve Di Schiavi. 27 00:01:10,738 --> 00:01:12,538 I'm a retired New York City homicide detective. 28 00:01:12,540 --> 00:01:15,240 So is this the only time you've been physically attacked? 29 00:01:15,242 --> 00:01:18,811 And I know every person, every house has secrets. 30 00:01:18,813 --> 00:01:22,881 There's no question in my mind that he was talking about Satan. 31 00:01:22,883 --> 00:01:24,583 It's my job to reveal them. 32 00:01:24,585 --> 00:01:26,218 Who do you think possessed you? 33 00:01:26,220 --> 00:01:28,387 But Steve and I never speak... 34 00:01:28,389 --> 00:01:30,422 We never communicate during an investigation. 35 00:01:30,424 --> 00:01:31,657 ...until the very end. 36 00:01:31,659 --> 00:01:33,292 Well, you're not gonna want to see this. 37 00:01:33,294 --> 00:01:35,360 When we uncover if it's safe for you to stay... 38 00:01:35,362 --> 00:01:36,862 Hell, no. 39 00:01:36,864 --> 00:01:38,530 Or time to get out. 40 00:01:38,532 --> 00:01:40,532 Everyone is in jeopardy. 41 00:01:55,449 --> 00:01:56,715 I'm in Berthoud, Colorado. 42 00:01:56,717 --> 00:01:59,084 It's a small town an hour north of Denver. 43 00:01:59,086 --> 00:02:00,686 I got a call from a woman named Rebecca. 44 00:02:00,688 --> 00:02:04,022 Now, she sounded hysterical, says whatever's in the house 45 00:02:04,024 --> 00:02:05,624 is killing her from the inside-out, 46 00:02:05,626 --> 00:02:07,125 and there's nothing she can do about it 47 00:02:07,127 --> 00:02:09,595 because it follows her wherever she goes. 48 00:02:09,597 --> 00:02:11,463 I really hope we can help her out. 49 00:02:16,403 --> 00:02:18,003 Before Amy arrives, 50 00:02:18,005 --> 00:02:20,973 I clear the area of any leading information -- 51 00:02:20,975 --> 00:02:23,942 photographs, personal items, 52 00:02:23,944 --> 00:02:27,980 and even religion statues need to be covered or removed. 53 00:02:27,982 --> 00:02:31,149 When I'm done, the location will be ready for tonight's walk. 54 00:02:38,392 --> 00:02:40,392 I don't feel good. 55 00:02:42,062 --> 00:02:44,630 I usually open myself to communicate with the dead 56 00:02:44,632 --> 00:02:48,534 a few hours before I get to a location, 57 00:02:48,536 --> 00:02:51,436 but tonight, I'm very sick and vulnerable... 58 00:02:54,074 --> 00:02:56,375 ...so I'm opening inside the house. 59 00:03:01,949 --> 00:03:04,249 I'm, like, seeing blood. 60 00:03:04,251 --> 00:03:06,518 There's blood all over the walls. 61 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:10,556 It looks very dreamlike. 62 00:03:10,558 --> 00:03:12,224 This woman's screaming and crying, 63 00:03:12,226 --> 00:03:14,293 and this is a nightmare. 64 00:03:20,768 --> 00:03:22,768 You know, Rebecca, I talk to a lot of scared people, 65 00:03:22,770 --> 00:03:26,338 and when we spoke, I can hear the desperation in your voice. 66 00:03:26,340 --> 00:03:28,173 I hate being in my home. 67 00:03:28,175 --> 00:03:30,008 You look upset already. 68 00:03:30,010 --> 00:03:31,577 - You okay? - Yeah. 69 00:03:31,579 --> 00:03:34,146 Okay. 70 00:03:34,148 --> 00:03:35,247 I got to ask a question. 71 00:03:35,249 --> 00:03:36,481 I mean, why don't you just leave? 72 00:03:36,483 --> 00:03:39,318 I feel like whatever is here is attached to me. 73 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:41,353 Whatever it is, it's going to follow me. 74 00:03:41,355 --> 00:03:43,322 Okay, So now, do you live here alone? 75 00:03:43,324 --> 00:03:45,390 I live with my mom, and I have a boyfriend 76 00:03:45,392 --> 00:03:48,026 that frequently spends the night here. 77 00:03:48,028 --> 00:03:49,261 How long have you lived here? 78 00:03:49,263 --> 00:03:50,862 I grew up here, and I've lived here 79 00:03:50,864 --> 00:03:52,497 off and on throughout my adult life. 80 00:03:52,499 --> 00:03:54,266 Your family bought this house? 81 00:03:54,268 --> 00:03:56,068 We built it in 1984. 82 00:03:56,070 --> 00:03:58,637 I mean, when did the activity start getting really bad? 83 00:03:58,639 --> 00:04:00,806 It got bad about 2 years ago. 84 00:04:00,808 --> 00:04:03,275 What do you think is causing all of this? 85 00:04:03,277 --> 00:04:05,911 A lot of fracking started in this area. 86 00:04:05,913 --> 00:04:07,245 Is that close by? 87 00:04:07,247 --> 00:04:08,647 - It's very close... - Okay. 88 00:04:08,649 --> 00:04:10,048 ...like, within a mile. 89 00:04:10,050 --> 00:04:11,817 Now, you guys have been here over 30 years. 90 00:04:11,819 --> 00:04:14,386 Do you know any history in the area? 91 00:04:14,388 --> 00:04:15,854 There was a deadly car crash 92 00:04:15,856 --> 00:04:18,490 just across the streets about 12 years ago. 93 00:04:18,492 --> 00:04:20,592 All right. So I'll look into that. 94 00:04:20,594 --> 00:04:22,494 Anybody that passed away in the house, stuff like that? 95 00:04:22,496 --> 00:04:24,696 My dad passed away here about 6 months ago. 96 00:04:24,698 --> 00:04:25,831 - He was 82. - Okay. 97 00:04:25,833 --> 00:04:27,766 What did he pass from? 98 00:04:27,768 --> 00:04:29,067 Kidney failure. 99 00:04:29,069 --> 00:04:30,602 Now did he pass away in the house? 100 00:04:30,604 --> 00:04:33,939 Not in the house. He left the house in an ambulance 101 00:04:33,941 --> 00:04:36,375 and died about 2 weeks later in hospice. 102 00:04:36,377 --> 00:04:39,978 This was my dad probably about 15...years ago? 103 00:04:39,980 --> 00:04:41,113 Okay. 104 00:04:41,115 --> 00:04:45,083 And this is a picture of my dad and me. 105 00:04:45,085 --> 00:04:47,185 What can you tell me about your father? 106 00:04:47,187 --> 00:04:49,454 He suffered for a long time with depression. 107 00:04:49,456 --> 00:04:51,590 He was affected by something here. 108 00:04:51,592 --> 00:04:54,359 He used to talk about people coming to visit. 109 00:04:54,361 --> 00:04:56,128 So you think he was suffering from, like, paranormal 110 00:04:56,130 --> 00:04:58,597 that was going on here and didn't know how to deal with it? 111 00:04:58,599 --> 00:05:00,032 I think so. 112 00:05:00,034 --> 00:05:01,800 Have you done anything to combat what you've been through? 113 00:05:01,802 --> 00:05:06,238 I've had people come to do cleansings, exorcism. 114 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:08,173 We had a demonologist come out. 115 00:05:08,175 --> 00:05:09,641 That's quite a list right there. 116 00:05:09,643 --> 00:05:10,709 And nothing has helped? 117 00:05:10,711 --> 00:05:12,944 Just for a short period of time. 118 00:05:12,946 --> 00:05:14,179 I know you have a lot going on, Rebecca, 119 00:05:14,181 --> 00:05:16,381 but give me a list of what's happening. 120 00:05:16,383 --> 00:05:19,985 Hearing noises, seeing weird things. 121 00:05:19,987 --> 00:05:21,887 It's become very violent, 122 00:05:21,889 --> 00:05:24,756 and I think my personality has changed. 123 00:05:24,758 --> 00:05:26,124 Okay, in what way? 124 00:05:26,126 --> 00:05:29,027 I used to be really easygoing, very happy all the time, 125 00:05:29,029 --> 00:05:33,098 and now I'm filled with anxiety and overly sensitive, 126 00:05:33,100 --> 00:05:35,801 kind of turned into a... 127 00:05:35,803 --> 00:05:37,302 tension between me and my mom, 128 00:05:37,304 --> 00:05:38,837 tension between me and my boyfriend. 129 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:41,173 And what do you hope we can do for you? 130 00:05:41,175 --> 00:05:43,642 I'd like to be comfortable in my home. 131 00:05:43,644 --> 00:05:45,877 I'd like to not be getting hurt anymore. 132 00:05:45,879 --> 00:05:47,345 Yeah. 133 00:05:52,553 --> 00:05:57,823 The only thing about this area is the, like, the energy chaos. 134 00:05:57,825 --> 00:06:00,959 This is all, like, living energy stuff, you know? 135 00:06:00,961 --> 00:06:04,796 A male and a female arguing. 136 00:06:04,798 --> 00:06:07,799 The energy here is very, um, 137 00:06:07,801 --> 00:06:10,202 hectic and chaotic. 138 00:06:11,371 --> 00:06:13,472 It's too much noise. 139 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:21,713 Okay. So, Rebecca, what's going on in here? 140 00:06:21,715 --> 00:06:23,014 Coming into the hall, 141 00:06:23,016 --> 00:06:25,951 I felt something push me on my left shoulder, 142 00:06:25,953 --> 00:06:27,919 so I turned to see 143 00:06:27,921 --> 00:06:30,288 and just so quickly 144 00:06:30,290 --> 00:06:32,591 went backwards over this, 145 00:06:32,593 --> 00:06:34,926 and left me with bruises and scratches on my back. 146 00:06:34,928 --> 00:06:36,862 I mean, that's -- that's a pretty high opening. 147 00:06:36,864 --> 00:06:39,097 That had to be a pretty strong push. Yep. 148 00:06:39,099 --> 00:06:40,866 Thank God there's no glass in between here. 149 00:06:40,868 --> 00:06:42,834 Yeah. All right, so what else is going on? 150 00:06:42,836 --> 00:06:45,670 Just last night, I was walking down the stairs. 151 00:06:45,672 --> 00:06:47,272 Something pushed me from behind, 152 00:06:47,274 --> 00:06:49,841 and I fell down the stairs, hurt my shoulder. 153 00:06:49,843 --> 00:06:51,143 I mean, I hate to be an ass, 154 00:06:51,145 --> 00:06:52,844 but, I mean, are you clumsy at all? 155 00:06:52,846 --> 00:06:55,914 Not clumsy enough to make stuff like this happen. 156 00:06:55,916 --> 00:06:58,583 And you wonder why your anxiety is through the roof. 157 00:06:58,585 --> 00:07:01,586 I just feel like a walking target 158 00:07:01,588 --> 00:07:03,789 all the time. 159 00:07:03,791 --> 00:07:06,725 Just...I felt sexually assaulted in my bed. 160 00:07:06,727 --> 00:07:10,862 Okay. All right. Has this happened more than once? 161 00:07:10,864 --> 00:07:12,497 No, just one time. 162 00:07:12,499 --> 00:07:14,933 It's a lot more violent than we thought. 163 00:07:14,935 --> 00:07:17,536 Okay. I'm really glad I took this case. 164 00:07:17,538 --> 00:07:18,970 Thank you. 165 00:07:22,576 --> 00:07:25,710 I'm seeing a shadow person in here. 166 00:07:25,712 --> 00:07:27,612 I think it's a real shadow person, 167 00:07:27,614 --> 00:07:31,249 and I see it attacking the person in here. 168 00:07:31,251 --> 00:07:33,451 Usually, shadow people are just all, like, 169 00:07:33,453 --> 00:07:35,921 suck the life out of you. 170 00:07:35,923 --> 00:07:39,991 This is, like, physically assaulting this person. 171 00:07:42,563 --> 00:07:45,297 Yeah, I see a female with brown hair. 172 00:07:45,299 --> 00:07:47,098 She's probably... 173 00:07:47,100 --> 00:07:50,735 I don't know, in her 30s, average build. 174 00:07:50,737 --> 00:07:52,804 Like, I see a person laying. 175 00:07:52,806 --> 00:07:57,075 The shadow person is, like, on its hands and feet, 176 00:07:57,077 --> 00:07:58,610 and it's huge. 177 00:07:58,612 --> 00:08:02,047 It becomes huge, and the person's like... 178 00:08:02,049 --> 00:08:03,548 like, underneath it. 179 00:08:09,056 --> 00:08:11,189 You know, Rebecca, after everything you've told me so far, 180 00:08:11,191 --> 00:08:12,657 I'm afraid to even ask. 181 00:08:12,659 --> 00:08:13,925 What else is going on? 182 00:08:13,927 --> 00:08:17,028 I have seen a black creature, like, 183 00:08:17,030 --> 00:08:19,731 with lots of long tentacles all over it. 184 00:08:19,733 --> 00:08:21,299 Shiny black, 185 00:08:21,301 --> 00:08:24,836 no face to speak of. 186 00:08:24,838 --> 00:08:27,005 How big of a mass are we talking about? Like this? 187 00:08:27,007 --> 00:08:29,074 Probably 4 feet. 188 00:08:29,076 --> 00:08:31,309 You on any medication or anything? No. 189 00:08:31,311 --> 00:08:33,011 So nothing that's making you hallucinate? 190 00:08:33,013 --> 00:08:34,246 No. 191 00:08:34,248 --> 00:08:35,547 Okay. Anything else going on in here? 192 00:08:35,549 --> 00:08:38,049 I've gotten scratches and bruises in bed. 193 00:08:38,051 --> 00:08:40,252 Okay. What kind of scratches and bruises are we talking about? 194 00:08:40,254 --> 00:08:41,786 Well, I have some pictures. 195 00:08:41,788 --> 00:08:44,689 Here's a picture of some scratches. 196 00:08:44,691 --> 00:08:47,092 Jeez. 197 00:08:47,094 --> 00:08:48,226 I see there's blood here. 198 00:08:48,228 --> 00:08:49,895 I mean, I've seen cats in the house. 199 00:08:49,897 --> 00:08:50,962 Cats come into bed with you guys? 200 00:08:50,964 --> 00:08:52,998 Cats go in their own room at night. 201 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:54,165 All right. Anything else? 202 00:08:54,167 --> 00:08:55,867 One time, I was laying in bed, 203 00:08:55,869 --> 00:08:58,703 and I felt like I was punched in the face, 204 00:08:58,705 --> 00:09:01,539 and it was so hard that I had a tooth knocked out. 205 00:09:01,541 --> 00:09:03,608 Which tooth was it? 206 00:09:03,610 --> 00:09:05,343 Um, this one, right here. 207 00:09:07,681 --> 00:09:09,848 It's insane. I feel crazy sometimes. 208 00:09:09,850 --> 00:09:11,483 You have a tough go here. 209 00:09:16,556 --> 00:09:20,158 There's a lot of interaction between this shadow person 210 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:21,860 and this living person. 211 00:09:21,862 --> 00:09:24,195 This is a pretty much every night thing, 212 00:09:24,197 --> 00:09:27,265 dragging them off the bed, 213 00:09:27,267 --> 00:09:30,669 being pushed, pushed down to the floor, 214 00:09:30,671 --> 00:09:32,537 trying to take them through the walls, 215 00:09:32,539 --> 00:09:34,572 which doesn't work if you're alive. 216 00:09:34,574 --> 00:09:37,208 Wouldn't be surprised if there would be bruises 217 00:09:37,210 --> 00:09:39,411 from being grabbed and moved and dropped. 218 00:09:39,413 --> 00:09:44,683 I've never seen such interaction between a living person 219 00:09:44,685 --> 00:09:48,186 and a shadow person before. 220 00:09:48,188 --> 00:09:52,424 I'm feeling frustration from the shadow person, 221 00:09:52,426 --> 00:09:54,292 almost like the shadow person 222 00:09:54,294 --> 00:09:59,197 thinks this person is another shadow person 223 00:09:59,199 --> 00:10:03,301 and isn't doing what they're supposed to be doing. 224 00:10:03,303 --> 00:10:08,606 This is very odd behavior from an actual shadow person. 225 00:10:08,608 --> 00:10:10,709 So would you say this person is in danger? 226 00:10:10,711 --> 00:10:13,745 Yes. I think that... 227 00:10:15,716 --> 00:10:19,551 maybe the shadow person will figure out a way 228 00:10:19,553 --> 00:10:23,021 to make this person disappear. 229 00:10:42,259 --> 00:10:44,559 So, Heidi, I know you're friends with Rebecca. 230 00:10:44,561 --> 00:10:45,994 How long you guys been friends? 231 00:10:45,996 --> 00:10:47,462 Since I can remember. 232 00:10:47,464 --> 00:10:48,897 You told me you didn't want to do the interview inside. 233 00:10:48,899 --> 00:10:50,165 What was that all about? 234 00:10:50,167 --> 00:10:51,800 I recently lost my husband, 235 00:10:51,802 --> 00:10:53,401 and I'm kind of in a vulnerable place, 236 00:10:53,403 --> 00:10:54,702 and I just want to protect myself 237 00:10:54,704 --> 00:10:56,938 from taking something home with me. 238 00:10:56,940 --> 00:10:59,507 So, obviously, you think there's something in the house. 239 00:10:59,509 --> 00:11:01,843 - Yeah. - Have you had any experiences? 240 00:11:01,845 --> 00:11:04,279 - I have. - Okay. Let's talk about them. 241 00:11:04,281 --> 00:11:06,648 When we were little, we used to see a guy 242 00:11:06,650 --> 00:11:09,617 walking around in her barn sometimes. 243 00:11:09,619 --> 00:11:11,953 Okay. So how do you know it wasn't some guy in the barn? 244 00:11:11,955 --> 00:11:14,889 - We would go in and look. - Okay. 245 00:11:14,891 --> 00:11:16,057 Could they have been hiding when he saw you coming? 246 00:11:16,059 --> 00:11:18,193 No. There was really nowhere to hide. 247 00:11:18,195 --> 00:11:19,794 Okay. So anything else? 248 00:11:19,796 --> 00:11:22,163 There was one other thing that was sort of 249 00:11:22,165 --> 00:11:23,598 like an impish little creature. 250 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:27,902 It was black and white and had sort of, like, long pointy head. 251 00:11:27,904 --> 00:11:30,872 Describe him to me like it's a perpetrator from a crime. 252 00:11:30,874 --> 00:11:33,842 - Foot and a half tall, maybe. - Okay. 253 00:11:33,844 --> 00:11:35,109 Small mouth, sharp teeth... 254 00:11:35,111 --> 00:11:36,344 ...big eyes. 255 00:11:36,346 --> 00:11:37,645 So like a little monster, really? 256 00:11:37,647 --> 00:11:39,481 Yeah, kind of. Well, let me ask you a question. 257 00:11:39,483 --> 00:11:41,249 Do you think your friend is in danger? 258 00:11:41,251 --> 00:11:42,350 I do. 259 00:11:42,352 --> 00:11:44,819 I'm hoping you guys can help her. 260 00:11:47,924 --> 00:11:50,658 I see a demon. 261 00:11:53,430 --> 00:11:54,929 Can you describe him? 262 00:11:54,931 --> 00:11:58,433 There's no, like, real body, 263 00:11:58,435 --> 00:12:00,635 but it has legs and arms. 264 00:12:00,637 --> 00:12:02,470 It slithers, mostly... 265 00:12:05,308 --> 00:12:08,977 ...and it has a fat trunk that's really long, 266 00:12:08,979 --> 00:12:11,112 and it slithers like a snake on that. 267 00:12:11,114 --> 00:12:14,382 Its head is kind of like a...triangular. 268 00:12:14,384 --> 00:12:18,653 It has, like, some kind of ear things or something, 269 00:12:18,655 --> 00:12:23,958 and it has a weird, like, snout and big yellow eyes. 270 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:26,828 I think that we've got a problem. 271 00:12:34,137 --> 00:12:35,470 You know, Linda, I was talking to Rebecca. 272 00:12:35,472 --> 00:12:36,738 You gotta be worried about her. 273 00:12:36,740 --> 00:12:38,840 I'm extremely worried about her. 274 00:12:38,842 --> 00:12:42,110 I don't know how much more she can handle. 275 00:12:42,112 --> 00:12:45,013 So, Linda, I understand that your husband recently passed. 276 00:12:45,015 --> 00:12:46,614 Do you think he's here? 277 00:12:46,616 --> 00:12:50,818 I feel he's here, but I feel it's not a negative influence. 278 00:12:50,820 --> 00:12:53,154 All right, as far as experiences, what about you? 279 00:12:53,156 --> 00:12:57,392 Every time that I sit in the chair behind me, 280 00:12:57,394 --> 00:13:00,395 I feel like someone is sitting on my chest 281 00:13:00,397 --> 00:13:02,397 and I cannot catch my breath. 282 00:13:02,399 --> 00:13:03,865 Okay. Listen. 283 00:13:03,867 --> 00:13:05,199 I know it's a lot to ask, but can you sit in the chair? 284 00:13:05,201 --> 00:13:06,267 I'm just curious if it would happen 285 00:13:06,269 --> 00:13:08,670 with me being in the room with you. 286 00:13:08,672 --> 00:13:10,171 Of course. 287 00:13:14,544 --> 00:13:16,177 I don't feel good. 288 00:13:16,179 --> 00:13:18,947 Is it the same pressure feeling? 289 00:13:18,949 --> 00:13:20,481 Yes. 290 00:13:20,483 --> 00:13:22,016 It is. 291 00:13:22,018 --> 00:13:23,217 This quick? 292 00:13:24,988 --> 00:13:26,821 - Okay. All right. - It is. 293 00:13:26,823 --> 00:13:29,791 All right. Come on. Come on. 294 00:13:29,793 --> 00:13:30,925 Sorry about that. I just wanted to see. You okay? 295 00:13:30,927 --> 00:13:32,160 - Yeah. - Okay. I'm sorry. 296 00:13:32,162 --> 00:13:33,628 - It's okay. - You feel better now? 297 00:13:33,630 --> 00:13:35,396 - Yeah. I do. - Okay. 298 00:13:35,398 --> 00:13:37,498 That's why I don't spend any time in here. 299 00:13:37,500 --> 00:13:39,033 Anything else? 300 00:13:39,035 --> 00:13:43,204 At night, we hear very definite scratching 301 00:13:43,206 --> 00:13:44,672 in the outside wall. 302 00:13:44,674 --> 00:13:45,940 You got wildlife all over the place. 303 00:13:45,942 --> 00:13:47,275 We do. 304 00:13:47,277 --> 00:13:50,612 Pest control people came out and checked everything. 305 00:13:50,614 --> 00:13:52,447 They even went under the house. 306 00:13:52,449 --> 00:13:54,382 Now you've lived here a very long time, 307 00:13:54,384 --> 00:13:57,085 but I understand that this stuff got pretty intense 308 00:13:57,087 --> 00:13:58,219 over the last couple of years. 309 00:13:58,221 --> 00:13:59,487 All right, so what do you think changed? 310 00:13:59,489 --> 00:14:03,391 Rebecca's boyfriend dabbled in Ouija boards, 311 00:14:03,393 --> 00:14:06,894 and I really wonder if that opened a door 312 00:14:06,896 --> 00:14:09,998 to some negative occurrences here. 313 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:11,232 Well, we're here, so hopefully, 314 00:14:11,234 --> 00:14:12,467 we'll get some answers for you guys. 315 00:14:12,469 --> 00:14:13,968 I hope so. 316 00:14:18,975 --> 00:14:21,075 Okay. So this is weird. 317 00:14:21,077 --> 00:14:24,679 The demon is, like, storming in the house, 318 00:14:24,681 --> 00:14:28,716 and it's, like, making a lot of noise and ruckus. 319 00:14:28,718 --> 00:14:33,388 I was being told that a living person here 320 00:14:33,390 --> 00:14:35,623 has collected this thing. 321 00:14:35,625 --> 00:14:38,393 - The demon? - Yes. 322 00:14:38,395 --> 00:14:41,329 I just assumed it came from the land, you know? 323 00:14:41,331 --> 00:14:44,365 But, mnh-mnh, no, somebody here... 324 00:14:44,367 --> 00:14:47,068 I'm getting a male. 325 00:14:47,070 --> 00:14:50,104 What the...are they doing, making a demon come on up? 326 00:14:51,508 --> 00:14:54,609 Something is gonna happen, 327 00:14:54,611 --> 00:14:55,877 like a murder. 328 00:15:03,019 --> 00:15:04,419 So, Mike, talking to Rebecca, 329 00:15:04,421 --> 00:15:06,287 I mean, she's going through hell here. 330 00:15:06,289 --> 00:15:07,855 You gotta be worried about her. 331 00:15:07,857 --> 00:15:08,890 I'm sickened by it. 332 00:15:08,892 --> 00:15:11,059 It just makes you feel helpless. 333 00:15:11,061 --> 00:15:13,261 Now Rebecca told me that no matter where she goes, 334 00:15:13,263 --> 00:15:14,495 this thing follows her. 335 00:15:14,497 --> 00:15:16,230 Now have you seen this happen at your place? 336 00:15:16,232 --> 00:15:17,398 Absolutely. 337 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:19,400 This one time, she was choked. 338 00:15:19,402 --> 00:15:21,736 She's been thrown against my closet door. 339 00:15:21,738 --> 00:15:23,271 She's been thrown into my bathtub. 340 00:15:23,273 --> 00:15:26,174 She's been thrown off the back of my couch. 341 00:15:26,176 --> 00:15:29,577 Actually, I've got, like, three journals like this, 342 00:15:29,579 --> 00:15:31,646 just account after account 343 00:15:31,648 --> 00:15:34,682 of things that have happened to her. 344 00:15:34,684 --> 00:15:36,751 Now when I talked to Linda, her mom. 345 00:15:36,753 --> 00:15:38,853 She's been here since 1984. 346 00:15:38,855 --> 00:15:40,855 And she said none of this violent...started 347 00:15:40,857 --> 00:15:42,056 until you came into the picture. 348 00:15:42,058 --> 00:15:44,058 - Absolutely. Yeah. - So... 349 00:15:44,060 --> 00:15:45,927 Well, I mean, we did mess around with a Ouija board, 350 00:15:45,929 --> 00:15:47,862 and we've went on a couple ghost tours. 351 00:15:47,864 --> 00:15:49,363 So you only did those two things, and that's it? 352 00:15:49,365 --> 00:15:51,399 Yeah, Ouija board, EVP, and, yeah, ghost tour. 353 00:15:51,401 --> 00:15:53,167 - So that's three things. - Three things, yeah. 354 00:15:54,571 --> 00:15:55,903 Now you understand, if you we sit down with Amy, 355 00:15:55,905 --> 00:15:57,839 she's going to want to know everything. 356 00:15:57,841 --> 00:15:59,340 And if you're not telling me all of it, 357 00:15:59,342 --> 00:16:01,876 it's not going to help our case here. 358 00:16:01,878 --> 00:16:05,213 We have contacted a demonologist, 359 00:16:05,215 --> 00:16:08,316 a Reiki Master, and then another psychic. 360 00:16:08,318 --> 00:16:11,152 All right, so there were other things that went on here. 361 00:16:11,154 --> 00:16:14,622 The truth is, it doesn't matter where Becca goes. 362 00:16:14,624 --> 00:16:17,792 She's a bright light and she attracts a lot of bugs. 363 00:16:17,794 --> 00:16:21,829 Until she figures out how to, you know, believe in herself 364 00:16:21,831 --> 00:16:25,133 and how to protect herself, things aren't gonna change. 365 00:16:29,072 --> 00:16:31,372 I was being told 366 00:16:31,374 --> 00:16:34,876 somebody is doing Ouija board 367 00:16:34,878 --> 00:16:39,714 and has somehow summoned these things. 368 00:16:39,716 --> 00:16:43,384 The demon has a direct relationship 369 00:16:43,386 --> 00:16:45,653 with a living male here 370 00:16:45,655 --> 00:16:49,490 who accidentally brought it back. 371 00:16:49,492 --> 00:16:51,592 Do you know when this happened? 372 00:16:51,594 --> 00:16:55,630 Recently, maybe going on, like, 50 years. 373 00:16:55,632 --> 00:16:57,098 Do you know what it wants? 374 00:16:57,100 --> 00:17:00,434 It can make them physically ill 375 00:17:00,436 --> 00:17:03,237 or want to kill themselves. 376 00:17:18,888 --> 00:17:20,354 You know, I'm gonna start my investigation 377 00:17:20,356 --> 00:17:23,190 with Rebecca's lead about the deadly car accident. 378 00:17:23,192 --> 00:17:25,059 Now, for some reason, the local cops don't want 379 00:17:25,061 --> 00:17:27,328 to talk to me about it. 380 00:17:27,330 --> 00:17:29,263 So I'm heading back to meet a local journalist 381 00:17:29,265 --> 00:17:31,966 who says this tragedy could've definitely been prevented. 382 00:17:39,775 --> 00:17:42,309 Okay, so this accident, what can you tell me about it? 383 00:17:42,311 --> 00:17:45,379 It happened in 2005, May 25. 384 00:17:45,381 --> 00:17:47,715 There was a carload of four teenagers. 385 00:17:47,717 --> 00:17:49,583 They were coming up the road this way. 386 00:17:49,585 --> 00:17:50,751 Okay. 387 00:17:50,753 --> 00:17:53,020 Ben Moden, he was 17 years old. He was driving. 388 00:17:53,022 --> 00:17:54,522 Now was he from this area, this kid, Moden? Or... 389 00:17:54,524 --> 00:17:56,423 - Yes. - He was. Okay. 390 00:17:56,425 --> 00:17:58,292 Who else was in the car with him? 391 00:17:58,294 --> 00:18:01,829 18-year-old Kurtis Soeby, 17-year-old Brenden McBride, 392 00:18:01,831 --> 00:18:04,732 and then a 15-year-old girl named Shawntae Taylor. 393 00:18:04,734 --> 00:18:07,735 Okay, so describe the accident for me. What happened? 394 00:18:07,737 --> 00:18:09,537 Ben and his friends were coming up the road this way, 395 00:18:09,539 --> 00:18:11,272 going at a good rate of speed 396 00:18:11,274 --> 00:18:13,307 A pickup truck was coming this way. 397 00:18:13,309 --> 00:18:15,276 Ben blew right through this stop sign. 398 00:18:15,278 --> 00:18:17,144 He was trying to beat the pickup truck. 399 00:18:17,146 --> 00:18:19,179 Okay, so how bad was this wreck? 400 00:18:19,181 --> 00:18:22,983 It was awful, and debris was found hundreds of feet 401 00:18:22,985 --> 00:18:25,686 around the crash site. - Wow. 402 00:18:25,688 --> 00:18:26,921 How many people died in this accident? 403 00:18:26,923 --> 00:18:29,290 One at the scene, Shawntae Taylor, the girl. 404 00:18:29,292 --> 00:18:30,591 And then Kurtis Soeby, 405 00:18:30,593 --> 00:18:32,893 he was airlifted to a hospital in Denver 406 00:18:32,895 --> 00:18:36,931 and died 3 days later of his injuries. 407 00:18:36,933 --> 00:18:38,332 All right. So what about this kid Moden? 408 00:18:38,334 --> 00:18:39,500 Did they charge him? 409 00:18:39,502 --> 00:18:40,935 They charged him with several misdemeanors 410 00:18:40,937 --> 00:18:44,405 'cause he was a minor when he was arrested at the hospital. 411 00:18:44,407 --> 00:18:45,940 At the sentencing, he actually said 412 00:18:45,942 --> 00:18:48,309 that he wished it had been him 413 00:18:48,311 --> 00:18:50,811 instead of his friends who had died. 414 00:18:50,813 --> 00:18:52,246 Ultimately, he got his wish. 415 00:18:52,248 --> 00:18:53,547 How so? 416 00:18:53,549 --> 00:18:56,717 He was done with house arrest in July of 2006. 417 00:18:56,719 --> 00:18:58,185 Okay. 418 00:18:58,187 --> 00:18:59,753 And then just 3 months later, he was driving with a friend, 419 00:18:59,755 --> 00:19:03,958 21-year-old Joseph Darr, 4:00 in the morning, 420 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:06,160 blasting down the highway, loses control, 421 00:19:06,162 --> 00:19:09,263 flips it several times, both ejected from the car, 422 00:19:09,265 --> 00:19:11,565 neither one wearing a seat belt, again. 423 00:19:11,567 --> 00:19:14,935 And Joseph walked away with serious injuries, 424 00:19:14,937 --> 00:19:19,773 but Ben was killed from traumatic head injury. 425 00:19:19,775 --> 00:19:23,444 In his autopsy, they found cocaine, marijuana, and ecstasy. 426 00:19:23,446 --> 00:19:27,081 Well, maybe if he would've done some time in the first accident, 427 00:19:27,083 --> 00:19:28,716 he'd be alive today. 428 00:19:32,555 --> 00:19:35,789 I'm seeing an angry male, 429 00:19:35,791 --> 00:19:39,293 and there was something wrong with him. 430 00:19:39,295 --> 00:19:43,430 Basically, he's just...crazy. 431 00:19:43,432 --> 00:19:45,799 I don't know what made him crazy, though. 432 00:19:45,801 --> 00:19:49,470 He hurts himself and would hurt other people. 433 00:19:51,540 --> 00:19:53,240 They locked him up. 434 00:19:53,242 --> 00:19:55,275 His face is all smooshed up. 435 00:19:55,277 --> 00:19:56,677 Do you know why he's like that? 436 00:19:56,679 --> 00:19:58,178 His face is like that... 437 00:19:58,180 --> 00:20:00,481 'cause he's in pain. 438 00:20:01,984 --> 00:20:03,751 Rebecca says she thinks fracking in the area 439 00:20:03,753 --> 00:20:05,252 may have stirred things up. 440 00:20:05,254 --> 00:20:08,989 Now I don't know about that, but she got me thinking. 441 00:20:08,991 --> 00:20:10,891 If her water supply got contaminated, 442 00:20:10,893 --> 00:20:13,961 could it be making her sick and causing her to hallucinate? 443 00:20:13,963 --> 00:20:16,163 I'm heading over to meet an environmental scientist 444 00:20:16,165 --> 00:20:17,898 to see if that's even possible. 445 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:26,440 My clients here have been experiencing 446 00:20:26,442 --> 00:20:29,476 some serious paranormal activity for about 2 years. 447 00:20:29,478 --> 00:20:31,879 I don't expect you to get into the whole paranormal side of things, 448 00:20:31,881 --> 00:20:34,515 but they said it was the time fracking started in the area. 449 00:20:34,517 --> 00:20:35,849 What exactly is fracking? 450 00:20:35,851 --> 00:20:38,652 It's a process by which you drill into the Earth, 451 00:20:38,654 --> 00:20:40,921 and you use high-pressure water 452 00:20:40,923 --> 00:20:43,624 and a cocktail compound of chemicals 453 00:20:43,626 --> 00:20:47,528 to bring oil out of solid rock in the ground. 454 00:20:47,530 --> 00:20:49,763 They're fracking pretty close here, from what I understand. 455 00:20:49,765 --> 00:20:52,599 They are, so about 100 yards from here is Weld County, 456 00:20:52,601 --> 00:20:56,770 and there are 15,000 fracking wells in Weld County alone. 457 00:20:56,772 --> 00:20:59,740 Now, have there been any leaks around here that you know of? 458 00:20:59,742 --> 00:21:04,178 Sure. Within the county, there was a 28,000-gallon oil spill 459 00:21:04,180 --> 00:21:07,181 associated with fracking in the past year. 460 00:21:07,183 --> 00:21:09,450 Okay. So if they're drinking contaminated water 461 00:21:09,452 --> 00:21:10,751 for an extended period of time, 462 00:21:10,753 --> 00:21:12,720 what's the symptoms gonna be like? 463 00:21:12,722 --> 00:21:15,422 So you're going to see headaches, anxiety, 464 00:21:15,424 --> 00:21:17,524 dizziness, delirium, 465 00:21:17,526 --> 00:21:19,493 and for more extended periods of time 466 00:21:19,495 --> 00:21:21,161 and in higher doses of chemicals, 467 00:21:21,163 --> 00:21:24,398 you'd see things like cancer and potentially even death. 468 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:27,401 So it'd probably be a good idea for me to test the water? 469 00:21:27,403 --> 00:21:29,336 I would certainly recommend that. 470 00:21:29,338 --> 00:21:31,038 Okay. 471 00:21:33,075 --> 00:21:36,110 I'm seeing that demon again. 472 00:21:36,112 --> 00:21:39,079 I saw this thing 473 00:21:39,081 --> 00:21:42,983 in the drainage ditch outside. 474 00:21:42,985 --> 00:21:47,387 It inhales water, and it comes inside, 475 00:21:47,389 --> 00:21:52,926 and it'll go on the person and then vomit into their back, 476 00:21:52,928 --> 00:21:57,131 and then the evil is always in their backs. 477 00:21:57,133 --> 00:22:00,467 This causes the living here 478 00:22:00,469 --> 00:22:03,537 to either get sick 479 00:22:03,539 --> 00:22:06,573 or kill themselves. 480 00:22:08,611 --> 00:22:14,348 The person then can spread it to other living people. 481 00:22:14,350 --> 00:22:16,750 - Just by being around them? - Yes. 482 00:22:16,752 --> 00:22:19,520 Just how sick can it make people? 483 00:22:19,522 --> 00:22:21,989 I think that it can cause death. 484 00:22:29,365 --> 00:22:31,698 For more information about the show, 485 00:22:31,700 --> 00:22:33,333 and if you need us to investigate 486 00:22:33,335 --> 00:22:35,068 unexplained activity in your home... 487 00:22:35,070 --> 00:22:38,605 Please visit travelchannel.com/thedeadfiles. 488 00:22:38,607 --> 00:22:40,674 Click on "Help me, Dead Files!" to submit your story, 489 00:22:40,676 --> 00:22:41,909 and we'll help if we can. 490 00:22:51,929 --> 00:22:54,029 So far, I've got a client under attack, 491 00:22:54,031 --> 00:22:56,365 on our property near the site of a deadly car crash 492 00:22:56,367 --> 00:22:58,534 that killed two teenagers, 493 00:22:58,536 --> 00:23:00,469 but I want to see if there's anything else. 494 00:23:02,473 --> 00:23:03,672 Searching through old records, 495 00:23:03,674 --> 00:23:05,140 I find an article about 496 00:23:05,142 --> 00:23:06,708 a farmhand who was brutally murdered 497 00:23:06,710 --> 00:23:10,012 right next door to my client's property. 498 00:23:10,014 --> 00:23:11,413 You know, I got a local crime writer 499 00:23:11,415 --> 00:23:13,148 to look into this murder for me. 500 00:23:13,150 --> 00:23:15,651 Now, she told me the case took a big twist 501 00:23:15,653 --> 00:23:18,754 when the local judge made a surprising announcement. 502 00:23:25,863 --> 00:23:26,962 Well, Chris, thanks for meeting with me. 503 00:23:26,964 --> 00:23:28,664 - I appreciate that. - Sure. 504 00:23:28,666 --> 00:23:31,633 Before we get to the homicide, where exactly did it happen? 505 00:23:31,635 --> 00:23:34,136 It happened on an 800-acre farm 506 00:23:34,138 --> 00:23:36,371 right next door to your client's property. 507 00:23:36,373 --> 00:23:39,875 The farm was owned by a man named Louis Clinton Rockwell 508 00:23:39,877 --> 00:23:42,978 who was an attorney who lived in Denver. 509 00:23:42,980 --> 00:23:44,313 Now, Chris, I know in the article it said 510 00:23:44,315 --> 00:23:46,214 it involved farmhands. 511 00:23:46,216 --> 00:23:47,816 All right. What do we know about them? 512 00:23:47,818 --> 00:23:50,118 These guys were Swedish immigrants, 513 00:23:50,120 --> 00:23:52,788 and they lived in a barn on the property. 514 00:23:52,790 --> 00:23:56,525 They're young, single, sort of drifters that come in 515 00:23:56,527 --> 00:23:58,727 and work in the summer and then leave. 516 00:23:58,729 --> 00:24:00,963 Okay, Chris, so do me a favor. Let's go through the homicide. 517 00:24:00,965 --> 00:24:02,097 What happened? 518 00:24:02,099 --> 00:24:05,267 Well, on the night of November 11, 1889, 519 00:24:05,269 --> 00:24:07,035 the farmhands were in the barn. - Okay. 520 00:24:07,037 --> 00:24:09,538 And they were down in the lounge area, drinking. 521 00:24:09,540 --> 00:24:13,108 And about 8:00, one of them, Albert Martin, 522 00:24:13,110 --> 00:24:15,510 decided he was going to go upstairs and go to bed, 523 00:24:15,512 --> 00:24:18,647 and the rest of them stayed down and continued to get hammered. 524 00:24:18,649 --> 00:24:20,816 Okay, which guys like that are gonna do 'cause, 525 00:24:20,818 --> 00:24:22,618 you know, there's nothing else to do there. Right. Right. 526 00:24:22,620 --> 00:24:26,822 And later on in the evening, Elmer Robb, one of the men, 527 00:24:26,824 --> 00:24:28,090 who was a really big guy, 528 00:24:28,092 --> 00:24:30,993 decided that he wanted the others to fist-fight 529 00:24:30,995 --> 00:24:32,327 for his amusement. 530 00:24:32,329 --> 00:24:34,663 He was badgering them and threatening them, 531 00:24:34,665 --> 00:24:36,865 and finally, one person did agree, 532 00:24:36,867 --> 00:24:39,301 and so he decided to go upstairs 533 00:24:39,303 --> 00:24:42,270 and get Martin to come down and fight the guy. 534 00:24:42,272 --> 00:24:43,372 All right. So this guy is already in bed. 535 00:24:43,374 --> 00:24:44,806 How did they react to that? 536 00:24:44,808 --> 00:24:48,343 At that point, Martin, feeling kind of threatened, got up, 537 00:24:48,345 --> 00:24:52,714 grabbed a.32-caliber revolver, and went downstairs with him. 538 00:24:52,716 --> 00:24:54,750 And he feels that he's threatened. 539 00:24:54,752 --> 00:24:56,184 Robb's a big guy. 540 00:24:56,186 --> 00:24:58,220 So he pulls out his.32-caliber 541 00:24:58,222 --> 00:25:00,522 and shoots him three times in the chest. 542 00:25:00,524 --> 00:25:03,592 - And he kills him? - Yes. 543 00:25:03,594 --> 00:25:04,960 That's funny, though. You mentioned on the phone, 544 00:25:04,962 --> 00:25:07,396 there was a surprising decision by the judge. 545 00:25:07,398 --> 00:25:08,864 Right. 546 00:25:08,866 --> 00:25:10,766 Well, the sheriff felt that they had the guy dead to right, 547 00:25:10,768 --> 00:25:12,834 so they wanted to charge him with murder. 548 00:25:12,836 --> 00:25:14,870 - Okay. - But the judge totally disagreed 549 00:25:14,872 --> 00:25:19,074 and refused to arraign him and let him go. 550 00:25:19,076 --> 00:25:20,308 All right, so it sounds like 551 00:25:20,310 --> 00:25:21,810 the judge thought it was self-defense. 552 00:25:21,812 --> 00:25:23,445 Right. Robb's sort of a jerk. 553 00:25:23,447 --> 00:25:25,814 He probably deserved what he got, really. 554 00:25:28,886 --> 00:25:32,087 There's, like, a couple of men out here, 555 00:25:32,089 --> 00:25:34,022 and they're dead, 556 00:25:34,024 --> 00:25:36,358 and they're not good. 557 00:25:36,360 --> 00:25:38,593 I don't even know what they're doing here. 558 00:25:38,595 --> 00:25:40,862 They're not from here. 559 00:25:40,864 --> 00:25:42,197 So how many are there? 560 00:25:42,199 --> 00:25:46,535 I think there's three, but there could be more. 561 00:25:46,537 --> 00:25:48,003 Do you know when this is from? 562 00:25:48,005 --> 00:25:50,706 I'd say in the last hundred years. 563 00:25:50,708 --> 00:25:51,907 There'll all white men. 564 00:25:51,909 --> 00:25:57,646 They're probably ranging from age 18 to 40. 565 00:25:57,648 --> 00:25:59,047 There's a skinny one. 566 00:25:59,049 --> 00:26:01,216 There's a built one. 567 00:26:01,218 --> 00:26:02,818 I don't know how they died. 568 00:26:02,820 --> 00:26:06,221 I hear one was executed. 569 00:26:06,223 --> 00:26:08,356 I know they killed somebody. 570 00:26:11,628 --> 00:26:13,895 I think that they would cause a lot of activity 571 00:26:13,897 --> 00:26:16,531 in that building. 572 00:26:16,533 --> 00:26:20,001 I do think that the living have seen them. 573 00:26:20,003 --> 00:26:21,403 They feel aggressive. 574 00:26:21,405 --> 00:26:25,841 They feel territorial, and they don't want to leave, 575 00:26:25,843 --> 00:26:28,510 and they feel safe here. 576 00:26:28,512 --> 00:26:31,113 It's like, "Get out. Get out. Get out. Get out." 577 00:26:31,115 --> 00:26:33,515 They don't like anybody in here. 578 00:26:33,517 --> 00:26:35,417 No. They don't like it. 579 00:26:35,419 --> 00:26:36,785 Mnh-mnh. 580 00:26:43,193 --> 00:26:46,094 I saw several entities during my walk, 581 00:26:46,096 --> 00:26:48,730 but two of them had me the most concerned. 582 00:26:48,732 --> 00:26:50,432 First, the demon. 583 00:26:50,434 --> 00:26:54,369 Its body is like a slug that kind of 584 00:26:54,371 --> 00:26:58,473 has an upside-down triangle head shape, 585 00:26:58,475 --> 00:27:01,009 and the mouth was more like a big hole. 586 00:27:05,282 --> 00:27:07,048 Next, I described the shadow person 587 00:27:07,050 --> 00:27:09,317 I saw attacking a living woman. 588 00:27:09,319 --> 00:27:12,754 He was on top of her in a bed, 589 00:27:12,756 --> 00:27:17,893 and he had his arms on either side of her 590 00:27:17,895 --> 00:27:21,062 and his legs on either side of her legs, 591 00:27:21,064 --> 00:27:24,166 and he's got her, like, pegged. 592 00:27:30,274 --> 00:27:33,008 Is this what you saw? 593 00:27:33,010 --> 00:27:34,810 Yes. 594 00:27:54,598 --> 00:27:57,432 Now that Amy and I have completed our investigations, 595 00:27:57,434 --> 00:27:59,901 we're ready to reveal our findings to each other 596 00:27:59,903 --> 00:28:02,671 and our clients for the first time. 597 00:28:02,673 --> 00:28:06,041 Now, Amy, we've done over 125 cases together, 598 00:28:06,043 --> 00:28:08,176 and we've met a lot of people going through hell, 599 00:28:08,178 --> 00:28:11,680 but Rebecca's case is one of the worst. 600 00:28:11,682 --> 00:28:13,481 This is her mom, Linda. 601 00:28:13,483 --> 00:28:14,883 She lives in this house. 602 00:28:14,885 --> 00:28:17,619 This is her boyfriend, Mike, who stays here on occasion. 603 00:28:17,621 --> 00:28:20,689 They're all experiencing things, but they're worried 604 00:28:20,691 --> 00:28:23,391 that whatever is here is trying to kill Rebecca. 605 00:28:23,393 --> 00:28:25,794 Now that Amy knows a little bit about you guys, 606 00:28:25,796 --> 00:28:27,796 I'll ask her to describe her walk for us. 607 00:28:31,201 --> 00:28:34,469 The first thing that I need to discuss really quickly 608 00:28:34,471 --> 00:28:37,405 is that I've been very sick, 609 00:28:37,407 --> 00:28:40,709 and when you're sick and you're doing this kind of work, 610 00:28:40,711 --> 00:28:42,911 you're extremely vulnerable. 611 00:28:42,913 --> 00:28:47,315 I waited until I got here to actually open, 612 00:28:47,317 --> 00:28:50,351 but once I did open, one of the first things I got 613 00:28:50,353 --> 00:28:53,555 was a lot of negative energy from the living here. 614 00:28:53,557 --> 00:28:57,459 I was hearing a lot of different people arguing. 615 00:28:57,461 --> 00:29:00,562 There was definitely a male and a female that was 616 00:29:00,564 --> 00:29:03,832 the top and most consistent 617 00:29:03,834 --> 00:29:05,700 with the arguing. 618 00:29:05,702 --> 00:29:07,836 Now, Rebecca, you guys have been fighting, right? 619 00:29:07,838 --> 00:29:10,672 - Yeah. - Tell Amy about that. 620 00:29:10,674 --> 00:29:13,341 Just fight a lot for sometimes... 621 00:29:13,343 --> 00:29:16,377 seems no really good reason. 622 00:29:16,379 --> 00:29:17,512 Why is that? 623 00:29:17,514 --> 00:29:19,881 I feel like my personality has changed. 624 00:29:19,883 --> 00:29:21,983 I feel very anxious all the time. 625 00:29:21,985 --> 00:29:26,221 I'm...probably not a lot of fun to be around. 626 00:29:26,223 --> 00:29:28,189 - Interesting. - She gets upset. 627 00:29:28,191 --> 00:29:29,457 She gets depressed, you know, 628 00:29:29,459 --> 00:29:31,493 just has this negative self-image. 629 00:29:31,495 --> 00:29:33,027 Now, Mom, is that her? 630 00:29:33,029 --> 00:29:37,332 Didn't used to be her, no, but that's how she is, now. 631 00:29:39,936 --> 00:29:41,736 Okay. So what else? 632 00:29:41,738 --> 00:29:45,707 There are two separate entities here 633 00:29:45,709 --> 00:29:47,509 that are really your problem. 634 00:29:47,511 --> 00:29:50,044 The first one is the demon. 635 00:29:52,082 --> 00:29:57,418 When I first encountered it, it was slithering like a snake. 636 00:29:57,420 --> 00:29:59,220 It does have arms and legs, 637 00:29:59,222 --> 00:30:01,956 but they're extremely underdeveloped. 638 00:30:01,958 --> 00:30:05,160 Its face is extremely triangular. 639 00:30:05,162 --> 00:30:07,195 Rebecca, do me a favor and tell her 640 00:30:07,197 --> 00:30:09,998 what you described to me upstairs. 641 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:15,103 I saw kind of a shiny black kind of a hovering blob, 642 00:30:15,105 --> 00:30:18,439 but it had tentacles coming off of it. 643 00:30:18,441 --> 00:30:20,775 Now when I spoke to your girlfriend Heidi, 644 00:30:20,777 --> 00:30:22,544 she talked about a black-and-white figure 645 00:30:22,546 --> 00:30:25,180 with strange long ears 646 00:30:25,182 --> 00:30:27,081 that would follow her around when she was kid. 647 00:30:27,083 --> 00:30:29,284 Interesting. Okay. 648 00:30:29,286 --> 00:30:31,152 Do you think what Heidi and Rebecca saw as kids 649 00:30:31,154 --> 00:30:32,821 was this demon thing? 650 00:30:32,823 --> 00:30:35,156 I actually did have a sketch done of it. 651 00:30:40,130 --> 00:30:41,629 This is interesting. 652 00:30:41,631 --> 00:30:43,965 This reminds me of what your girlfriend was telling me. 653 00:30:45,836 --> 00:30:48,570 Ooh. 654 00:30:48,572 --> 00:30:52,307 It looks like what Heidi would describe, with the long ears. 655 00:30:53,443 --> 00:30:56,177 This thing is in your house now, apparently. 656 00:30:56,179 --> 00:30:59,881 I almost don't have words for something like that. 657 00:30:59,883 --> 00:31:03,218 It's just... 658 00:31:03,220 --> 00:31:05,887 it's almost impossible to comprehend. 659 00:31:09,025 --> 00:31:12,760 So I saw this thing in a drainage ditch outside. 660 00:31:12,762 --> 00:31:17,799 It was sucking up mud and all this crap from the ditch 661 00:31:17,801 --> 00:31:20,468 through its nose and go inside, 662 00:31:20,470 --> 00:31:23,371 and it would vomit out this black stuff 663 00:31:23,373 --> 00:31:28,076 that it had inhaled into the person's back. 664 00:31:28,078 --> 00:31:30,812 What I got for living people is that it can make them 665 00:31:30,814 --> 00:31:32,614 very, very ill, 666 00:31:32,616 --> 00:31:36,050 or it can make them have suicidal thoughts, 667 00:31:36,052 --> 00:31:38,186 and the thing that I thought maybe 668 00:31:38,188 --> 00:31:42,290 that it had possibly killed somebody already. 669 00:31:44,027 --> 00:31:46,828 You mentioned something about potential suicide? 670 00:31:46,830 --> 00:31:48,129 I came across something in my research 671 00:31:48,131 --> 00:31:49,364 that might be important. 672 00:31:49,366 --> 00:31:51,833 In 2005, there was a deadly car accident 673 00:31:51,835 --> 00:31:54,202 right up on the corner here, just a few hundred feet away. 674 00:31:54,204 --> 00:31:56,604 Four teenagers were driving in a sedan. 675 00:31:56,606 --> 00:31:58,840 They felt as if the driver was being suicidal 676 00:31:58,842 --> 00:32:00,275 from the way he drove. 677 00:32:00,277 --> 00:32:03,544 The driver, Ben Moden, was reckless and blew right through 678 00:32:03,546 --> 00:32:05,680 that stop sign at the end of the road here. 679 00:32:05,682 --> 00:32:08,683 They were T-boned by an oncoming pickup truck. 680 00:32:08,685 --> 00:32:12,153 Now, this was a huge crash, and debris went everywhere. 681 00:32:12,155 --> 00:32:13,855 None of the kids were wearing seatbelts. 682 00:32:13,857 --> 00:32:16,457 One of the boys was ejected from the car. 683 00:32:16,459 --> 00:32:18,626 He died 3 days later at a hospital. 684 00:32:18,628 --> 00:32:21,029 A 15-year-old girl named Shawntae Taylor 685 00:32:21,031 --> 00:32:23,564 was killed at the scene, 686 00:32:23,566 --> 00:32:25,733 and the driver, Ben Moden, 687 00:32:25,735 --> 00:32:28,236 he wound up getting sentenced to one year's house arrest 688 00:32:28,238 --> 00:32:30,138 because he was a minor at the time. 689 00:32:30,140 --> 00:32:32,073 He had no drugs or alcohol in his system, 690 00:32:32,075 --> 00:32:35,043 so no one knows why he ran the stop sign. 691 00:32:35,045 --> 00:32:37,412 Unfortunately, we can't ask him. 692 00:32:37,414 --> 00:32:39,047 That's because he's dead. 693 00:32:39,049 --> 00:32:41,549 A year later, Ben Moden was in another accident. 694 00:32:41,551 --> 00:32:44,018 He and a friend were driving fast down the highway 695 00:32:44,020 --> 00:32:45,386 at 4:00 in the morning. 696 00:32:45,388 --> 00:32:47,588 Again, this kid Ben Moden was driving. 697 00:32:47,590 --> 00:32:49,090 They weren't wearing seat belts. 698 00:32:49,092 --> 00:32:53,461 Ben lost control of the car and flipped several times. 699 00:32:53,463 --> 00:32:55,630 Both guys were ejected from the car. 700 00:32:55,632 --> 00:32:57,532 Ben was killed. 701 00:32:57,534 --> 00:32:59,067 I could be wrong, but it seemed like 702 00:32:59,069 --> 00:33:00,735 he had a death wish, this kid. 703 00:33:00,737 --> 00:33:04,472 Just a sad situation. 704 00:33:04,474 --> 00:33:05,940 So I don't know if this is connected or not, 705 00:33:05,942 --> 00:33:08,710 but you mentioned this demon thing likes to drink water 706 00:33:08,712 --> 00:33:09,978 from the drainage ditch. 707 00:33:09,980 --> 00:33:13,214 - Is that right? - Yes. 708 00:33:13,216 --> 00:33:15,750 Rebecca, you told me you thought activity picked up 709 00:33:15,752 --> 00:33:18,853 after they started fracking here a couple of years ago. 710 00:33:18,855 --> 00:33:20,955 Sometimes, fracking can contaminate 711 00:33:20,957 --> 00:33:22,156 peoples' the drinking water. 712 00:33:22,158 --> 00:33:23,992 Now, I talked to an environmental expert 713 00:33:23,994 --> 00:33:26,194 who says that exposure to these chemicals 714 00:33:26,196 --> 00:33:28,396 could cause some of the experiences you're having. 715 00:33:28,398 --> 00:33:31,199 But when I had your water tested, it came back normal. 716 00:33:31,201 --> 00:33:32,400 Okay. 717 00:33:32,402 --> 00:33:33,901 Now you said this thing makes people sick. 718 00:33:33,903 --> 00:33:37,805 Linda's husband, and Rebecca's father, died about 6 months ago. 719 00:33:37,807 --> 00:33:39,774 - Yes. - Okay. - I'm sorry. 720 00:33:39,776 --> 00:33:42,410 I have a couple of photos of him here, one with Rebecca. 721 00:33:44,581 --> 00:33:46,347 You said it could cause suicidal thoughts, 722 00:33:46,349 --> 00:33:50,418 and my dad was hospitalized at one time for attempted suicide. 723 00:33:50,420 --> 00:33:51,786 Really? 724 00:33:51,788 --> 00:33:53,955 He struggled with depression. 725 00:33:53,957 --> 00:33:59,994 He would just say to me, "I had some visitors today, 726 00:33:59,996 --> 00:34:03,031 "and they came to see me, 727 00:34:03,033 --> 00:34:05,633 but I know they weren't really here." 728 00:34:05,635 --> 00:34:10,271 Could this thing have caused him to want to commit suicide? 729 00:34:10,273 --> 00:34:11,572 Yes. 730 00:34:14,744 --> 00:34:18,479 So this demon, it was accidentally picked up 731 00:34:18,481 --> 00:34:20,648 by a male who lived here. 732 00:34:20,650 --> 00:34:25,553 And I got that this was recent, like in the last 50 years. 733 00:34:25,555 --> 00:34:27,288 Well, there's some other stuff you should know. 734 00:34:27,290 --> 00:34:28,423 Mike and Rebecca have done 735 00:34:28,425 --> 00:34:30,191 a ton of paranormal things in the past. 736 00:34:30,193 --> 00:34:31,959 You name it, they've tried it. 737 00:34:31,961 --> 00:34:34,295 I want you to explain to her what's going on, 738 00:34:34,297 --> 00:34:35,396 what you guys did, 739 00:34:35,398 --> 00:34:37,532 and how the stuff spiked after you two met. 740 00:34:37,534 --> 00:34:40,068 Well, it was ill-advised, but we, you know, 741 00:34:40,070 --> 00:34:43,905 decided to have a couple sessions with a Ouija board. 742 00:34:43,907 --> 00:34:45,306 List the other things you've done. 743 00:34:45,308 --> 00:34:47,208 We've reached out to an exorcist, 744 00:34:47,210 --> 00:34:48,643 a demonologist. 745 00:34:48,645 --> 00:34:52,480 We've worked with a, like, a Reiki Master, 746 00:34:52,482 --> 00:34:54,649 and we did a ghost tour on my birthday. 747 00:34:54,651 --> 00:34:55,917 Now, Linda, I know you don't like 748 00:34:55,919 --> 00:34:58,486 all the...they're doing, right? - No. I don't. 749 00:34:58,488 --> 00:35:02,390 I don't feel that doors should be opened 750 00:35:02,392 --> 00:35:04,292 when you have a choice not to. 751 00:35:04,294 --> 00:35:06,494 So did Mike and Rebecca bring this demon here? 752 00:35:06,496 --> 00:35:07,829 No. 753 00:35:07,831 --> 00:35:12,733 This could be possibly your husband 754 00:35:12,735 --> 00:35:16,737 because it wasn't something he was looking for. 755 00:35:16,739 --> 00:35:19,107 - It was accidentally picked up. - Okay. 756 00:35:19,109 --> 00:35:21,409 So it sounds like it wasn't Mike and Rebecca 757 00:35:21,411 --> 00:35:23,277 fooling around with the stuff. 758 00:35:23,279 --> 00:35:24,679 Not for that. 759 00:35:24,681 --> 00:35:27,148 Okay. For what? 760 00:35:27,150 --> 00:35:29,417 For something else. 761 00:35:29,419 --> 00:35:30,718 So you're not off the hook. 762 00:35:30,720 --> 00:35:32,453 No, you're not. 763 00:35:32,455 --> 00:35:34,789 The biggest threat in the house 764 00:35:34,791 --> 00:35:38,893 to you, specifically, is the shadow man. 765 00:35:40,296 --> 00:35:43,931 So what I saw was a male with a Ouija board, 766 00:35:43,933 --> 00:35:47,535 and that is what caused the shadow person 767 00:35:47,537 --> 00:35:49,804 to come into this realm. 768 00:35:49,806 --> 00:35:53,407 And I saw it fixated on a female in the room upstairs, 769 00:35:53,409 --> 00:35:54,609 to the left. 770 00:35:54,611 --> 00:35:56,811 That's Rebecca's room. 771 00:35:56,813 --> 00:36:00,448 Some of the specific things that I saw it doing to you 772 00:36:00,450 --> 00:36:03,151 was dragging you off the bed, 773 00:36:03,153 --> 00:36:06,621 that there would be bruises that you would maybe wake up with 774 00:36:06,623 --> 00:36:09,957 because it's trying to pick you up and drag you through walls, 775 00:36:09,959 --> 00:36:12,793 and that it's happening pretty much every night. 776 00:36:12,795 --> 00:36:14,028 You remember when I said 777 00:36:14,030 --> 00:36:16,264 Rebecca was going through hell here, right? 778 00:36:16,266 --> 00:36:17,932 You pretty much hit on why. 779 00:36:17,934 --> 00:36:20,902 I get scratches and bruises. 780 00:36:20,904 --> 00:36:23,271 Look at this. Look at these bruises. 781 00:36:23,273 --> 00:36:25,706 Wow. 782 00:36:25,708 --> 00:36:27,942 Feel like I've been held down in my bed. 783 00:36:27,944 --> 00:36:30,711 I had my tooth knocked out. 784 00:36:30,713 --> 00:36:32,847 I was laying in bed and I went to sit up, 785 00:36:32,849 --> 00:36:36,751 and as I was sitting up, I felt, like, a punch in my face. 786 00:36:36,753 --> 00:36:38,986 All right. Now this is the weird part, though. 787 00:36:38,988 --> 00:36:40,321 This stuff doesn't just happen here. 788 00:36:40,323 --> 00:36:43,424 When you go to Mike's house, it's happened. 789 00:36:43,426 --> 00:36:45,960 And she just got, basically, thrown off her feet 790 00:36:45,962 --> 00:36:48,262 and into my closet door. 791 00:36:48,264 --> 00:36:50,431 There might be some jealousy stuff here 792 00:36:50,433 --> 00:36:53,201 because you're dealing with a shadow person 793 00:36:53,203 --> 00:36:56,504 who believes that she's a shadow person. 794 00:36:56,506 --> 00:37:01,008 That's why it's so mean and so aggressive with you. 795 00:37:01,010 --> 00:37:04,579 It wants you to go home with it. 796 00:37:04,581 --> 00:37:06,280 I know you weren't intending to do something like that. 797 00:37:06,282 --> 00:37:08,049 I mean, are you feeling guilty about it? 798 00:37:08,051 --> 00:37:10,885 Yeah. I kind of am, and it really wasn't even my idea 799 00:37:10,887 --> 00:37:13,487 to do the Ouija board. 800 00:37:13,489 --> 00:37:15,122 So you're blaming Rebecca for this? 801 00:37:15,124 --> 00:37:18,492 She started seeing this black shadow 802 00:37:18,494 --> 00:37:20,027 before the Ouija board. 803 00:37:20,029 --> 00:37:22,597 - You buying that? - All I know is what I see, 804 00:37:22,599 --> 00:37:25,633 and what I saw was a man with a Ouija board, 805 00:37:25,635 --> 00:37:27,635 and then this thing was there. 806 00:37:27,637 --> 00:37:29,170 You're busted, cuz. Forget about it. 807 00:37:31,941 --> 00:37:33,708 Another thing I saw this shadow person 808 00:37:33,710 --> 00:37:36,577 doing to you was really horrifying, 809 00:37:36,579 --> 00:37:39,380 and I actually did have a sketch done of it. 810 00:37:47,757 --> 00:37:49,924 Gee whiz. 811 00:37:49,926 --> 00:37:51,626 That's why I don't sleep at night. 812 00:37:55,932 --> 00:37:58,566 I didn't want to bring it up, but there was some other issues 813 00:37:58,568 --> 00:38:01,569 you had in the bedroom with this thing. 814 00:38:01,571 --> 00:38:05,039 I felt like one night, I was sexually assaulted, 815 00:38:05,041 --> 00:38:07,808 but there was nothing there. 816 00:38:07,810 --> 00:38:11,245 I just can't imagine what she's going through. 817 00:38:11,247 --> 00:38:13,247 We just have to fix it. 818 00:38:13,249 --> 00:38:15,349 What the hell does this thing want with Rebecca? 819 00:38:15,351 --> 00:38:17,952 Well, it wants to take her home. 820 00:38:17,954 --> 00:38:21,088 So if, god forbid, this was to happen, where would she wind up? 821 00:38:21,090 --> 00:38:23,758 She would be missing. 822 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:27,528 He could accidentally kill you 823 00:38:27,530 --> 00:38:31,465 trying to get you to his reality. 824 00:38:50,295 --> 00:38:52,262 Now, Rebecca, when we spoke the other day, 825 00:38:52,264 --> 00:38:54,197 I knew this was going to be a rough night for you, 826 00:38:54,199 --> 00:38:56,166 but I had no idea it was going to be this bad. 827 00:38:56,168 --> 00:38:57,934 Now, I don't know what Amy is going to say, 828 00:38:57,936 --> 00:38:59,302 but I hope she has a solution for you, 829 00:38:59,304 --> 00:39:01,604 because nobody deserves to go through the abuse 830 00:39:01,606 --> 00:39:03,206 you're going through. 831 00:39:03,208 --> 00:39:05,275 With that, I'll turn it over to Amy and see what she's got. 832 00:39:08,246 --> 00:39:11,314 It's a very unique situation 833 00:39:11,316 --> 00:39:14,317 because real shadow people are negative 834 00:39:14,319 --> 00:39:18,755 and nearly impossible to get rid of. 835 00:39:18,757 --> 00:39:23,460 So you are, unfortunately, in an abusive relationship 836 00:39:23,462 --> 00:39:25,562 that you can't get out of. 837 00:39:25,564 --> 00:39:29,599 So you are going to have to implement 838 00:39:29,601 --> 00:39:33,870 different protection measures to try to survive. 839 00:39:33,872 --> 00:39:37,173 Something will work for a month, and then it'll stop, 840 00:39:37,175 --> 00:39:41,411 and then you're going to have to employ a different measure. 841 00:39:41,413 --> 00:39:42,979 What are we looking for? 842 00:39:42,981 --> 00:39:44,647 Because I want to help with this. 843 00:39:44,649 --> 00:39:48,184 I can give you a bag of stuff that you can use. 844 00:39:48,186 --> 00:39:50,787 You know, putting black salt around your bed at night. 845 00:39:50,789 --> 00:39:52,188 Maybe it'll work for a few nights, 846 00:39:52,190 --> 00:39:55,125 and then you go to, say, 847 00:39:55,127 --> 00:39:58,595 putting brimstone or sulfur at your door, 848 00:39:58,597 --> 00:40:03,633 but it's always going to be something that's temporary. 849 00:40:03,635 --> 00:40:06,102 What you can hope is that one day, 850 00:40:06,104 --> 00:40:09,405 he's gonna figure it out and he's going to figure out 851 00:40:09,407 --> 00:40:12,509 how to get himself back to his realm. 852 00:40:12,511 --> 00:40:13,877 I can't get rid of him. 853 00:40:13,879 --> 00:40:16,613 I don't want to live the rest of my life with him. 854 00:40:16,615 --> 00:40:18,982 I tell you, this is a heartbreaking case. 855 00:40:18,984 --> 00:40:20,750 I really don't have words for it. 856 00:40:20,752 --> 00:40:23,353 I was just so hoping that we could deal 857 00:40:23,355 --> 00:40:25,255 with the shadow person. 858 00:40:25,257 --> 00:40:28,458 Unfortunately, it's like you're going to be experimenting. 859 00:40:28,460 --> 00:40:31,828 That's all you can do with shadow people. 860 00:40:31,830 --> 00:40:33,997 What about this guy? 861 00:40:33,999 --> 00:40:36,432 Now that guy, you can do something about. 862 00:40:36,434 --> 00:40:40,203 Find a local tribe and a local person from that tribe 863 00:40:40,205 --> 00:40:43,773 who is either a practicing medicine person or a shaman. 864 00:40:43,775 --> 00:40:45,542 That person can come here 865 00:40:45,544 --> 00:40:49,379 and can protect your entire property line. 866 00:40:49,381 --> 00:40:50,780 Are you going to do that? 867 00:40:50,782 --> 00:40:52,315 Yeah. 868 00:40:52,317 --> 00:40:55,118 That's probably fairly easy for us to... 869 00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:58,488 ...get a hold of them. 870 00:40:58,490 --> 00:41:00,924 I think it would be a huge first step 871 00:41:00,926 --> 00:41:05,195 because I think it might allow her to be healthier. 872 00:41:05,197 --> 00:41:07,764 And building her confidence level. 873 00:41:07,766 --> 00:41:10,033 I mean, how do you feel about knowing everything now? 874 00:41:10,035 --> 00:41:12,101 It's pretty hard to put into words. 875 00:41:12,103 --> 00:41:17,073 I was so hopeful that we really... 876 00:41:17,075 --> 00:41:18,641 would get something more positive 877 00:41:18,643 --> 00:41:22,312 to resolve it, but we'll resolve it. 878 00:41:22,314 --> 00:41:24,147 It'll just take work. 879 00:41:24,149 --> 00:41:26,683 You know what you're dealing with now, I think. 880 00:41:28,854 --> 00:41:31,721 I know what to do now. 881 00:41:31,723 --> 00:41:33,990 I really hope Rebecca contacts a shaman 882 00:41:33,992 --> 00:41:37,594 to banish the demon that's been terrorizing her family. 883 00:41:37,596 --> 00:41:40,396 Once he's gone, she can focus on protecting herself 884 00:41:40,398 --> 00:41:43,032 from the shadow person tormenting her. 885 00:41:43,034 --> 00:41:45,268 And hopefully, one day, it will leave on its own, 886 00:41:45,270 --> 00:41:47,136 giving Rebecca some peace. 887 00:41:47,186 --> 00:41:51,736 Repair and Synchronization by Easy Subtitles Synchronizer 1.0.0.0 68308

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