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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,811 --> 00:00:03,378 Over here is really bad. 2 00:00:03,380 --> 00:00:05,847 It breeds psychopaths. 3 00:00:07,417 --> 00:00:09,084 I've been jumped. 4 00:00:09,086 --> 00:00:11,086 He is breaking her neck. 5 00:00:12,722 --> 00:00:15,290 I had to get out of the building as quickly as I possibly could. 6 00:00:16,860 --> 00:00:19,027 The dead can't rest. 7 00:00:19,029 --> 00:00:21,162 I'm convinced it was a homicide. 8 00:00:21,164 --> 00:00:23,932 He likes killing people. 9 00:00:23,934 --> 00:00:26,468 This is not a good situation. 10 00:00:26,470 --> 00:00:28,369 My name is Amy Allan. 11 00:00:28,371 --> 00:00:29,938 There's death here. 12 00:00:29,940 --> 00:00:31,673 Don't wanna go down there. 13 00:00:31,675 --> 00:00:32,941 I see dead people. 14 00:00:32,943 --> 00:00:35,043 They hide in the walls and they watch. 15 00:00:35,045 --> 00:00:37,812 I speak to dead people... 16 00:00:37,814 --> 00:00:40,548 She's definitely a serial killer. 17 00:00:40,550 --> 00:00:42,417 ...and they speak to me. 18 00:00:42,419 --> 00:00:44,552 She's going to torture them. 19 00:00:44,554 --> 00:00:48,289 But there's only one way to know if my findings are real. 20 00:00:48,291 --> 00:00:50,425 They were all murdered. 21 00:00:50,427 --> 00:00:51,926 I rely on my partner. 22 00:00:51,928 --> 00:00:53,528 I'm Steve Di Schiavi. 23 00:00:53,530 --> 00:00:55,329 I'm a retired New York City homicide detective. 24 00:00:55,331 --> 00:00:58,065 So is this the only time you've been physically attacked? 25 00:00:58,067 --> 00:01:01,635 And I know every person, every house has secrets. 26 00:01:01,637 --> 00:01:05,640 There's no question in my mind that he was talking about Satan. 27 00:01:05,642 --> 00:01:07,342 It's my job to reveal them. 28 00:01:07,344 --> 00:01:08,977 Who do you think possessed you? 29 00:01:08,979 --> 00:01:11,146 But Steve and I never speak... 30 00:01:11,148 --> 00:01:13,214 We never communicate during an investigation. 31 00:01:13,216 --> 00:01:14,448 ...until the very end. 32 00:01:14,450 --> 00:01:16,050 Well, you're not gonna want to see this. 33 00:01:16,052 --> 00:01:18,152 When we uncover if it's safe for you to stay... 34 00:01:18,154 --> 00:01:19,687 Hell, no. 35 00:01:19,689 --> 00:01:21,289 Or time to get out. 36 00:01:21,291 --> 00:01:23,291 Everyone is in jeopardy. 37 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:39,707 I'm out here in Sauk Centre, Minnesota. 38 00:01:39,709 --> 00:01:42,577 It's about 100 miles northwest of Minneapolis. 39 00:01:42,579 --> 00:01:44,345 I got called in by a woman named Kelley. 40 00:01:44,347 --> 00:01:47,181 Now she thought she was doing a good thing for her town 41 00:01:47,183 --> 00:01:49,450 by buying and restoring an historic hotel. 42 00:01:49,452 --> 00:01:51,652 But no good deed goes unpunished. 43 00:01:51,654 --> 00:01:53,854 Activity in the building is out of control, 44 00:01:53,856 --> 00:01:57,458 but she says she's not leaving no matter what, 45 00:01:57,460 --> 00:02:00,895 so it's up to me and Amy to find a solution. 46 00:02:04,767 --> 00:02:07,068 Before Amy arrives, I clear the area 47 00:02:07,070 --> 00:02:10,805 of any leading information. 48 00:02:10,807 --> 00:02:12,339 This is a large space, 49 00:02:12,341 --> 00:02:16,144 and there are a lot of historical photos and antiques. 50 00:02:16,146 --> 00:02:20,214 I need to cover or remove each and every one of them. 51 00:02:20,216 --> 00:02:24,385 When I'm done, the location will be ready for tonight's walk. 52 00:02:37,234 --> 00:02:39,667 There's, like, a dead guy here. 53 00:02:39,669 --> 00:02:41,903 He's, like, being a stalker. 54 00:02:41,905 --> 00:02:46,974 All you see is a skeleton with, like, sharp teeth, 55 00:02:46,976 --> 00:02:49,243 and he has a woman, and he's holding her 56 00:02:49,245 --> 00:02:51,946 by the back of her head and neck. 57 00:02:54,851 --> 00:02:59,387 He indicated that he murdered her along with others. 58 00:02:59,389 --> 00:03:01,356 He is a killer. 59 00:03:08,197 --> 00:03:11,231 So, Kelley, when we spoke on the phone, 60 00:03:11,233 --> 00:03:12,333 you sounded really upset 61 00:03:12,335 --> 00:03:13,901 about the things that are happening here. 62 00:03:13,903 --> 00:03:15,737 I'm really glad you're here. 63 00:03:15,739 --> 00:03:20,207 The Palmer house is so incredibly important to me. 64 00:03:20,209 --> 00:03:23,077 I want it to be here for generations to come, 65 00:03:23,079 --> 00:03:26,280 and with the type of activity that's going on, 66 00:03:26,282 --> 00:03:28,383 it's become a real concern, 67 00:03:28,385 --> 00:03:33,154 and now I begin to wonder if it's even safe. 68 00:03:33,156 --> 00:03:35,290 What are some of the experiences people are having? 69 00:03:35,292 --> 00:03:37,892 There's been a lot of things that are going on, 70 00:03:37,894 --> 00:03:39,927 hearing footsteps, 71 00:03:39,929 --> 00:03:42,396 objects being moved, 72 00:03:42,398 --> 00:03:46,567 shadow figures, and, in some cases, 73 00:03:46,569 --> 00:03:49,837 people are being touched and pushed. 74 00:03:49,839 --> 00:03:52,240 I got to think, with all the activity that's going on, 75 00:03:52,242 --> 00:03:53,775 it's got to be bad for business. 76 00:03:53,777 --> 00:03:56,344 I definitely think it is. 77 00:03:56,346 --> 00:03:59,547 I've had guests that have left. 78 00:03:59,549 --> 00:04:03,617 It's frequent enough that I actually created these binders 79 00:04:03,619 --> 00:04:05,386 for guests to be able 80 00:04:05,388 --> 00:04:10,425 to write their experiences down themselves if they would like. 81 00:04:12,462 --> 00:04:16,597 I got to tell you, this is pretty interesting stuff. 82 00:04:16,599 --> 00:04:19,400 What about employees? Are they being affected? 83 00:04:19,402 --> 00:04:21,602 I've had employees that have quit 84 00:04:21,604 --> 00:04:25,406 and mood shifts happen. - Okay. 85 00:04:25,408 --> 00:04:28,209 They can become very quarrelsome, 86 00:04:28,211 --> 00:04:30,945 very argumentative with one another. 87 00:04:30,947 --> 00:04:33,114 And you think that has something to do with what's going on here? 88 00:04:33,116 --> 00:04:36,016 I definitely think it is. 89 00:04:36,018 --> 00:04:38,319 Is it affecting you at all? 90 00:04:38,321 --> 00:04:40,555 Sometimes, I feel a little anxious 91 00:04:40,557 --> 00:04:44,825 and really angry and short-tempered, 92 00:04:44,827 --> 00:04:49,096 but I can't imagine my life anywhere but here. 93 00:04:49,098 --> 00:04:50,431 It has my heart. 94 00:04:50,433 --> 00:04:53,634 I love it with every fiber of my being. 95 00:04:53,636 --> 00:04:56,838 I want to make it work, but I need it to be safe. 96 00:05:01,911 --> 00:05:04,245 I walk in here and my stomach drops, 97 00:05:04,247 --> 00:05:08,049 and I hear a woman crying and screaming. 98 00:05:10,453 --> 00:05:13,888 This living woman, she's just losing her... 99 00:05:17,460 --> 00:05:19,860 The killer, the skeleton face dude, 100 00:05:19,862 --> 00:05:23,131 he's making me feel extremely stressed out. 101 00:05:26,369 --> 00:05:30,004 Also, the living people here will feel, 102 00:05:30,006 --> 00:05:32,907 sudden, extreme nausea 103 00:05:32,909 --> 00:05:35,276 and projectile vomiting. 104 00:05:40,316 --> 00:05:42,850 Okay, Kelley. So what's going gonna in here? 105 00:05:42,852 --> 00:05:45,486 There's just sometimes that I end up 106 00:05:45,488 --> 00:05:49,223 getting really sick with no explanation. 107 00:05:49,225 --> 00:05:51,392 Okay. What kind of sick? What are we talking about? 108 00:05:51,394 --> 00:05:56,097 Extreme nausea and terrible, terrible headaches. 109 00:05:56,099 --> 00:05:59,233 When you're away from here, does the symptoms go away? 110 00:05:59,235 --> 00:06:01,101 Yes, they do. 111 00:06:01,103 --> 00:06:02,369 Okay. Anything else? 112 00:06:02,371 --> 00:06:05,706 There's many times I'm hearing voices. 113 00:06:05,708 --> 00:06:07,975 Okay. So what kind of voices? 114 00:06:07,977 --> 00:06:09,443 Male, female. 115 00:06:09,445 --> 00:06:12,647 Sometimes, it's even children laughing and playing. 116 00:06:12,649 --> 00:06:15,649 Kelley, in the building here, I can hear people outside. 117 00:06:15,651 --> 00:06:18,119 I can hear people in the back, here in the kitchen. 118 00:06:18,121 --> 00:06:19,586 How do you know it's not that? 119 00:06:19,588 --> 00:06:22,723 There's many occasions when it's happened, 120 00:06:22,725 --> 00:06:26,894 and we're already closed for the night. 121 00:06:26,896 --> 00:06:28,663 Is there anything else going on in here? 122 00:06:28,665 --> 00:06:29,997 One time, actually, 123 00:06:29,999 --> 00:06:32,934 when I was just passing through the kitchen, 124 00:06:32,936 --> 00:06:37,472 this bowl on the end here flew 10 feet across the kitchen. 125 00:06:39,476 --> 00:06:42,142 Well, this can't really fall off of here. 126 00:06:42,144 --> 00:06:44,545 You're damn lucky that it's that and not a knife. 127 00:06:44,547 --> 00:06:46,213 My feelings exactly. 128 00:06:50,953 --> 00:06:54,688 I'm seeing this living woman 129 00:06:54,690 --> 00:06:57,291 being pushed out of here. 130 00:07:00,029 --> 00:07:03,364 But I'm hearing, "Thrown," 131 00:07:03,366 --> 00:07:07,968 and I see that the dead woman, 132 00:07:07,970 --> 00:07:10,004 that the skeleton-face guy killed, 133 00:07:10,006 --> 00:07:12,874 is the one who's doing it. 134 00:07:12,876 --> 00:07:16,277 I don't think she likes women very much. 135 00:07:19,048 --> 00:07:21,315 She's very tough. 136 00:07:21,317 --> 00:07:25,419 She's able to physically interact with the living. 137 00:07:25,421 --> 00:07:27,822 And, yeah, she doesn't like women. 138 00:07:33,229 --> 00:07:36,530 Okay, Kelley. What's going on down here? 139 00:07:36,532 --> 00:07:42,069 There's a very, very large black shadow 140 00:07:42,071 --> 00:07:45,239 that I've seen down here on multiple occasions. 141 00:07:45,241 --> 00:07:47,608 Can you describe what it looks like? 142 00:07:47,610 --> 00:07:51,078 Extremely tall, very broad-shouldered. 143 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:54,648 Because of the sheer size, I tend to say man, 144 00:07:54,650 --> 00:07:56,350 but I don't know. 145 00:07:56,352 --> 00:07:58,218 You ever see him anyplace else in the building? 146 00:07:58,220 --> 00:08:00,721 Sometimes upstairs. 147 00:08:00,723 --> 00:08:02,423 Okay. Anything else going on? 148 00:08:02,425 --> 00:08:04,491 Well, the reason I called you in for help 149 00:08:04,493 --> 00:08:08,295 was because I've been jumped. 150 00:08:08,297 --> 00:08:10,998 What do you mean? Like a spirit jumped you? 151 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:14,201 - Yes. - So what was the feeling like? 152 00:08:14,203 --> 00:08:20,174 It was absolutely like somebody had complete control 153 00:08:20,176 --> 00:08:23,710 over my body. 154 00:08:23,712 --> 00:08:26,046 Did you get a sense of who or what it might be? 155 00:08:26,048 --> 00:08:27,882 It felt like a man. 156 00:08:27,884 --> 00:08:31,018 I don't think that he particularly cared for me. 157 00:08:31,020 --> 00:08:33,187 That was as intense as it comes. 158 00:08:33,189 --> 00:08:34,655 So what do you think this thing wants? 159 00:08:34,657 --> 00:08:35,856 You have any idea? 160 00:08:35,858 --> 00:08:39,660 I sometimes wonder if it just wants me to leave. 161 00:08:39,662 --> 00:08:40,861 I'm not going anywhere. 162 00:08:40,863 --> 00:08:42,463 You're going to fight this. 163 00:08:42,465 --> 00:08:45,399 Every step of the way for as long as I have to. 164 00:08:50,339 --> 00:08:55,676 This guy with the skeleton-like face, 165 00:08:55,678 --> 00:08:57,478 I don't feel to comfortable here 166 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:00,081 because I feel like 167 00:09:00,083 --> 00:09:03,284 I'm constantly having to push him away from me 168 00:09:03,286 --> 00:09:06,754 because he can jump people. 169 00:09:11,093 --> 00:09:13,361 So are you saying he's trying to jump you now? 170 00:09:13,363 --> 00:09:17,330 Yes, he's been trying to jump me the whole time, the whole night. 171 00:09:17,332 --> 00:09:20,634 Do you have any idea what he wants from the living? 172 00:09:20,636 --> 00:09:23,971 He indicated that now he's death, 173 00:09:23,973 --> 00:09:25,239 and he's enjoying that. 174 00:09:25,241 --> 00:09:27,374 He likes killing people, 175 00:09:27,376 --> 00:09:29,877 and he would like to continue doing that. 176 00:09:49,700 --> 00:09:52,368 So, Wyatt, I understand you live at the hotel. 177 00:09:52,370 --> 00:09:55,638 - How long has that been? - Been here around 7 months. 178 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:57,239 Do you think this place is dangerous? 179 00:09:57,241 --> 00:09:58,975 I wouldn't like to say it was dangerous, 180 00:09:58,977 --> 00:10:00,242 but there has definitely been times 181 00:10:00,244 --> 00:10:01,511 where I've been a little worried. 182 00:10:01,513 --> 00:10:02,845 Okay. So if you're uncomfortable, 183 00:10:02,847 --> 00:10:04,513 could I assume you've had experiences? 184 00:10:04,515 --> 00:10:06,248 A few of them, yeah. Absolutely. 185 00:10:06,250 --> 00:10:07,783 I hear these banging sounds. 186 00:10:07,785 --> 00:10:10,586 It's almost like a 30-pound weight is being dropped. 187 00:10:10,588 --> 00:10:12,454 All right. So how do you know it's not guests? 188 00:10:12,456 --> 00:10:14,990 Steve, I've been in this building when I absolutely know 189 00:10:14,992 --> 00:10:18,227 there has been nobody else in the building with me. 190 00:10:18,229 --> 00:10:19,728 Okay. Anything else? 191 00:10:19,730 --> 00:10:21,197 I was sleeping one night. 192 00:10:21,199 --> 00:10:24,634 All of a sudden, I felt like somebody had laid in my bed 193 00:10:24,636 --> 00:10:25,868 and put their arm around me. - All right. 194 00:10:25,870 --> 00:10:28,604 So can you actually feel this person net to you? 195 00:10:28,606 --> 00:10:30,907 Yeah, and I could feel the fingertips 196 00:10:30,909 --> 00:10:32,308 run across my chest, 197 00:10:32,310 --> 00:10:34,076 and as it's touching me, I feel almost like 198 00:10:34,078 --> 00:10:36,212 being shocked by an electric fence. 199 00:10:36,214 --> 00:10:37,480 What'd you do? 200 00:10:37,482 --> 00:10:39,581 I actually had thought about climbing out of my window. 201 00:10:39,583 --> 00:10:41,617 I couldn't move, so I just kind of laid there, 202 00:10:41,619 --> 00:10:42,884 and I just kind of closed my eyes 203 00:10:42,886 --> 00:10:44,820 and just hoped that it would go away. 204 00:10:44,822 --> 00:10:46,222 All right. So anything else? 205 00:10:46,224 --> 00:10:47,590 So I went into the basement. 206 00:10:47,592 --> 00:10:51,326 As quick as snapping my fingers, something had entered me. 207 00:10:51,328 --> 00:10:54,563 The insides of me, it was almost like they had changed. 208 00:10:54,565 --> 00:10:56,299 My emotional state had changed. 209 00:10:56,301 --> 00:10:59,802 I felt like a sickness had just kind of embedded inside of me. 210 00:10:59,804 --> 00:11:03,105 I had to get out of the building as quickly as I possibly could. 211 00:11:03,107 --> 00:11:04,940 I know Kelley mentioned about an experience she had 212 00:11:04,942 --> 00:11:08,944 where she felt she actually got physically jumped by a spirit, 213 00:11:08,946 --> 00:11:10,779 and it sounds a lot like what you're talking about. 214 00:11:10,781 --> 00:11:12,281 You think that's what happened to you? 215 00:11:12,283 --> 00:11:14,617 - Yeah. Yeah, I do. - Okay. 216 00:11:14,619 --> 00:11:16,852 So you're hearing noises when people shouldn't be here. 217 00:11:16,854 --> 00:11:19,055 You're getting something crawling into bed with you. 218 00:11:19,057 --> 00:11:21,190 You're getting...sounds like jumped by a spirit 219 00:11:21,192 --> 00:11:22,591 in the basement, 220 00:11:22,593 --> 00:11:25,527 but yet you don't think it's dangerous here. 221 00:11:25,529 --> 00:11:28,764 Yeah, I can see why you'd think that that would be a problem, 222 00:11:28,766 --> 00:11:31,199 and, I, you know, sometimes, it does worry me. 223 00:11:31,201 --> 00:11:34,237 Are you not taking it as serious as you should? 224 00:11:34,239 --> 00:11:35,637 That's possible. 225 00:11:39,077 --> 00:11:45,014 The skeleton-face dude, he is very protective of this area, 226 00:11:45,016 --> 00:11:47,183 so I think that he would 227 00:11:47,185 --> 00:11:49,751 probably get physical with the living down here 228 00:11:49,753 --> 00:11:52,821 because he doesn't want them down here. 229 00:11:52,823 --> 00:11:55,257 Over here is really bad. 230 00:11:55,259 --> 00:12:00,129 People would be pushed, hit, slapped, punched. 231 00:12:00,131 --> 00:12:01,897 I don't know how many people he's actually had 232 00:12:01,899 --> 00:12:05,568 to physically assault to get them out of here. 233 00:12:05,570 --> 00:12:08,471 It seems like he does more of the killing upstairs. 234 00:12:13,544 --> 00:12:16,846 Kelley is here all the time, and you don't get here that often. 235 00:12:16,848 --> 00:12:18,481 You know, with some of the stuff she talked about, 236 00:12:18,483 --> 00:12:20,849 it's pretty dangerous. - Yeah. That's true. 237 00:12:20,851 --> 00:12:23,919 You know, the amount of time she spends here, that scares me. 238 00:12:23,921 --> 00:12:26,522 I'm concerned about something, you know, jumping on. 239 00:12:26,524 --> 00:12:28,924 I'm concerned about her bringing something home. 240 00:12:28,926 --> 00:12:31,794 - Have you had any experiences? - Yeah. 241 00:12:31,796 --> 00:12:34,262 We were downstairs with a group of people and just really, 242 00:12:34,264 --> 00:12:37,032 all of a sudden, it just turned black, 243 00:12:37,034 --> 00:12:38,934 couldn't really even see the hand in front of your face. 244 00:12:38,936 --> 00:12:40,636 It startled me. 245 00:12:40,638 --> 00:12:42,138 Now you say you were down there with a group. 246 00:12:42,140 --> 00:12:44,639 - What are you talking about? - There was an investigation. 247 00:12:44,641 --> 00:12:46,542 All right, so you had a paranormal investigative group 248 00:12:46,544 --> 00:12:48,678 in the building. - Yes. 249 00:12:48,680 --> 00:12:51,314 Is that something you regularly do here? Yeah. 250 00:12:51,316 --> 00:12:53,882 I gotta warn you, Amy's not gonna like that. 251 00:12:53,884 --> 00:12:55,717 All right. So any other experiences? 252 00:12:55,719 --> 00:12:58,620 Well, in this room, I was here one evening, 253 00:12:58,622 --> 00:13:01,823 and there was this sound of glasses clanking together, 254 00:13:01,825 --> 00:13:05,027 and a bottle on this back bar just burst on its own. 255 00:13:05,029 --> 00:13:07,296 I mean, is it possible that bottle already had a crack in it 256 00:13:07,298 --> 00:13:09,665 and just finally gave way? - I suppose it's possible. 257 00:13:09,667 --> 00:13:12,134 To me, was hard to explain. 258 00:13:12,136 --> 00:13:14,870 I've learned one thing from my partner is that 259 00:13:14,872 --> 00:13:16,839 when things get physical like they are here, 260 00:13:16,841 --> 00:13:18,674 it's only gonna get worse. 261 00:13:22,513 --> 00:13:25,781 Wow. Okay. There's a lot of residual here. 262 00:13:25,783 --> 00:13:27,783 A lot of residual. 263 00:13:27,785 --> 00:13:30,052 Now this is going back, and so I'm seeing, 264 00:13:30,054 --> 00:13:34,924 like, people drinking, partying, having a good time, 265 00:13:34,926 --> 00:13:40,062 and this looks like a long time ago. 266 00:13:40,064 --> 00:13:43,499 So how might all this residual affect living people? 267 00:13:43,501 --> 00:13:45,334 Wouldn't be surprised if the living are 268 00:13:45,336 --> 00:13:50,706 hearing the partying from way back in the day -- 269 00:13:50,708 --> 00:13:53,609 glasses clinging, chairs being moved, 270 00:13:53,611 --> 00:13:55,677 like, stuff like that. 271 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:58,514 Or they'll hear bits of conversation. 272 00:13:58,516 --> 00:14:02,885 Residual energy is funny because it can cause health problems. 273 00:14:02,887 --> 00:14:03,886 Like? 274 00:14:03,888 --> 00:14:06,021 Having flu symptoms or cold symptoms. 275 00:14:06,023 --> 00:14:07,390 Like, getting sick often. 276 00:14:09,694 --> 00:14:11,293 I talked to a bunch of people who spend time 277 00:14:11,295 --> 00:14:12,661 at the Palmer House... 278 00:14:12,663 --> 00:14:16,165 One time I was here, I heard a loud explosion, 279 00:14:16,167 --> 00:14:17,699 like a bomb went off. 280 00:14:17,701 --> 00:14:19,802 ...and all of them had strange things happen 281 00:14:19,804 --> 00:14:21,503 that they couldn't explain. 282 00:14:21,505 --> 00:14:24,373 I stayed overnight, third-floor room upstairs, 283 00:14:24,375 --> 00:14:28,244 and I had a big wicker chair move on its own. 284 00:14:28,246 --> 00:14:31,447 As a cop, I always look for witnesses whose stories match. 285 00:14:31,449 --> 00:14:32,982 And just about everyone here 286 00:14:32,984 --> 00:14:34,784 talked about seeing shadow figures. 287 00:14:34,786 --> 00:14:38,354 I can tell you about my most emotional, scary experience. 288 00:14:38,356 --> 00:14:39,588 One time, in the basement, 289 00:14:39,590 --> 00:14:41,923 I was shoved by a big black shadow figure. 290 00:14:41,925 --> 00:14:43,859 Can you describe what it looked like? 291 00:14:43,861 --> 00:14:46,128 An outline, a silhouette of a man in a suit 292 00:14:46,130 --> 00:14:47,662 with very broad shoulders, 293 00:14:47,664 --> 00:14:51,534 and his head went all the way up to the top of the doorway. 294 00:14:51,536 --> 00:14:53,402 Okay. 295 00:14:53,404 --> 00:14:56,705 There's just a lot of people. 296 00:14:56,707 --> 00:15:00,275 Kind of looked like shadow people, but they're not. 297 00:15:00,277 --> 00:15:02,278 I don't know what they're doing here. 298 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:03,812 I don't know why. 299 00:15:03,814 --> 00:15:07,449 I would say, like, five or six. 300 00:15:07,451 --> 00:15:09,685 It seems that they're men. 301 00:15:09,687 --> 00:15:17,626 They seem confused, and they seem a little crazy. 302 00:15:17,628 --> 00:15:19,361 How would the living be affected by them? 303 00:15:19,363 --> 00:15:24,833 I think being exposed to them would make a living person angry 304 00:15:24,835 --> 00:15:27,236 and kind of nuts. 305 00:15:42,103 --> 00:15:44,603 Look, this is a small town, and the Palmer House 306 00:15:44,605 --> 00:15:47,273 is probably the most important local landmark. 307 00:15:47,275 --> 00:15:49,808 So all the historian types know all about it. 308 00:15:49,810 --> 00:15:52,144 But one woman just called me back and says 309 00:15:52,146 --> 00:15:55,481 the man who owned the property before it became this hotel 310 00:15:55,483 --> 00:15:57,783 has a story I'm definitely gonna wanna know about. 311 00:16:02,623 --> 00:16:03,889 So, Jill, thanks for reaching out to me. 312 00:16:03,891 --> 00:16:06,125 I appreciate that. Who was this guy? 313 00:16:06,127 --> 00:16:08,861 Yeah, that would have been Cassius Sprigg. 314 00:16:08,863 --> 00:16:11,263 He was one of the early pioneers in town. 315 00:16:11,265 --> 00:16:14,066 Okay. So what was so interesting about this guy? 316 00:16:14,068 --> 00:16:16,802 He was a soldier in one of the bloodiest battles 317 00:16:16,804 --> 00:16:18,671 between settlers and Native Americans. 318 00:16:18,673 --> 00:16:20,673 Okay. So now tell me about this battle. 319 00:16:20,675 --> 00:16:23,775 He was just, like, 15 years old when he fought in the battle 320 00:16:23,777 --> 00:16:25,478 that become known as the Battle of Ridgely. 321 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:27,446 It's about 90 miles south of here. 322 00:16:27,448 --> 00:16:29,281 - And this kid was only 15? - Yes, he was. 323 00:16:29,283 --> 00:16:31,083 That was not uncommon for that time. 324 00:16:31,085 --> 00:16:33,552 Okay. So how does this bloody battle end? 325 00:16:33,554 --> 00:16:35,854 Well, on December 26, 1862, 326 00:16:35,856 --> 00:16:38,991 38 Native Americans were hung. 327 00:16:38,993 --> 00:16:42,928 To this day, it's the largest mass execution in history. 328 00:16:42,930 --> 00:16:45,464 Jeez. 329 00:16:48,269 --> 00:16:51,771 I'm seeing a woman, and she is hanging herself. 330 00:16:55,009 --> 00:16:59,612 The skeleton-face guy, he is breaking her neck. 331 00:16:59,614 --> 00:17:01,880 He's directly involved. 332 00:17:01,882 --> 00:17:03,883 He's killing people, 333 00:17:03,885 --> 00:17:07,686 actually killing them. 334 00:17:07,688 --> 00:17:11,090 This land is very, very bad. 335 00:17:11,092 --> 00:17:13,559 It draws the dead in. 336 00:17:13,561 --> 00:17:18,030 The dead can't rest, so it's like a gathering place. 337 00:17:18,032 --> 00:17:20,399 It breeds psychopaths. 338 00:17:22,603 --> 00:17:24,136 Okay. So now the war's over. 339 00:17:24,138 --> 00:17:26,071 When does Cassius get ahold of my client's property? 340 00:17:26,073 --> 00:17:27,907 He would have bought it in 1898. 341 00:17:27,909 --> 00:17:29,375 - Okay. - It was a hotel 342 00:17:29,377 --> 00:17:32,511 called the Sauk Centre House at the time. 343 00:17:32,513 --> 00:17:34,246 It was not a great investment. 344 00:17:34,248 --> 00:17:37,049 - Why? - On June 27, 1900, 345 00:17:37,051 --> 00:17:38,717 it burned completely to the ground. 346 00:17:38,719 --> 00:17:41,253 All right. This poor guy had the property 2 years and lost everything. 347 00:17:41,255 --> 00:17:43,456 Yes. Now, there have been several fires 348 00:17:43,458 --> 00:17:44,790 on that property over the years. 349 00:17:44,792 --> 00:17:46,258 You might want to look into that. 350 00:17:46,260 --> 00:17:48,027 That's interesting. Okay. I will. 351 00:17:48,029 --> 00:17:50,262 Okay. Any idea what started this fire? 352 00:17:50,264 --> 00:17:52,431 It started in the kitchen, they believe. 353 00:17:52,433 --> 00:17:53,666 - Anybody die? - No. 354 00:17:53,668 --> 00:17:55,468 There were 30 guests in the hotel at the time. 355 00:17:55,470 --> 00:17:56,802 There were no fatalities. 356 00:17:56,804 --> 00:17:58,069 Okay, but it's destroyed totally. 357 00:17:58,071 --> 00:18:00,272 - Completely. - What happens next? 358 00:18:00,274 --> 00:18:02,341 He collected the insurance money 359 00:18:02,343 --> 00:18:04,977 and then sold it to the family, the Palmers. 360 00:18:04,979 --> 00:18:07,913 Who built the hotel that's there today. Correct. 361 00:18:07,915 --> 00:18:09,681 Okay. So what happens to him after he sells the property 362 00:18:09,683 --> 00:18:10,883 to the Palmers? 363 00:18:10,885 --> 00:18:12,752 Well, his fortune seemed to change after that. 364 00:18:12,754 --> 00:18:14,553 He went into banking. 365 00:18:14,555 --> 00:18:16,756 By the end of his life, he owned 12 banks. 366 00:18:16,758 --> 00:18:18,157 Okay. So he it turns out this fire 367 00:18:18,159 --> 00:18:19,958 might have been a good thing for him. 368 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:22,027 You can look at it that way. 369 00:18:24,432 --> 00:18:26,298 I'm trying to figure out 370 00:18:26,300 --> 00:18:30,168 who this skeleton-face guy was when he was alive. 371 00:18:30,170 --> 00:18:34,340 He had a lot of money, something with a bank. 372 00:18:34,342 --> 00:18:37,710 I'm seeing a bank had a direct connection here. 373 00:18:37,712 --> 00:18:39,578 Do you know when this was? 374 00:18:39,580 --> 00:18:42,848 Around 1890. 375 00:18:42,850 --> 00:18:44,850 He's protecting something. 376 00:18:44,852 --> 00:18:47,253 I know that this is part of his secret. 377 00:18:50,624 --> 00:18:54,860 He admits to killing people when he was alive. 378 00:18:54,862 --> 00:18:57,263 He let that slip out. 379 00:18:57,265 --> 00:18:59,465 He's pissed. 380 00:19:03,270 --> 00:19:05,604 Jill said there were other fires on the property, 381 00:19:05,606 --> 00:19:07,306 and it turns out she's right. 382 00:19:07,308 --> 00:19:09,808 I'm headed over to meet with the city's former fire chief, 383 00:19:09,810 --> 00:19:11,276 who dug through the records for me 384 00:19:11,278 --> 00:19:13,846 and found four major fires on the land. 385 00:19:19,820 --> 00:19:21,153 Now, John, you mentioned on the phone 386 00:19:21,155 --> 00:19:22,621 that there were four major fires 387 00:19:22,623 --> 00:19:24,022 at the property I'm investigating. 388 00:19:24,024 --> 00:19:26,425 Now I know one happened in 1900. 389 00:19:26,427 --> 00:19:28,627 I know there's three more. Let's start with the first one. 390 00:19:28,629 --> 00:19:31,630 Okay. It was back in September of 1873. 391 00:19:31,632 --> 00:19:32,898 The fire was in the barn. 392 00:19:32,900 --> 00:19:35,568 They believe it had caught on fire 393 00:19:35,570 --> 00:19:38,603 from a cigar discarded into a bale of hay. 394 00:19:38,605 --> 00:19:40,572 All right. Was anybody injured or killed? 395 00:19:40,574 --> 00:19:42,508 No injured or nobody killed. 396 00:19:42,510 --> 00:19:45,711 All right, John. So what about the second fire? 397 00:19:45,713 --> 00:19:49,081 February of 1885, there was a large fire. 398 00:19:49,083 --> 00:19:52,785 I'm not sure where or how it started. 399 00:19:52,787 --> 00:19:54,186 One oddity to it is that 400 00:19:54,188 --> 00:19:57,122 the current owner of that building at that time 401 00:19:57,124 --> 00:19:58,991 was the Sauk Centre Fire Chief. 402 00:19:58,993 --> 00:20:00,326 Jeez. Okay. 403 00:20:00,328 --> 00:20:02,994 So now we got three fires on my client's property. 404 00:20:02,996 --> 00:20:04,329 What about the fourth one? 405 00:20:04,331 --> 00:20:09,201 July 31, 1905. It happened at the Palmer House. 406 00:20:09,203 --> 00:20:12,872 And as you can see, it looks pretty much as it does today. 407 00:20:12,874 --> 00:20:16,609 And it was quite big news at the time. 408 00:20:16,611 --> 00:20:19,344 According to this, boarders jumped from the windows? 409 00:20:19,346 --> 00:20:22,414 There was eight employees, I believe, on the second floor 410 00:20:22,416 --> 00:20:25,451 that were trapped which had to jump out of the building, 411 00:20:25,453 --> 00:20:28,620 onto a canopy. - Wow. 412 00:20:28,622 --> 00:20:30,956 Yeah, desperate times, desperate measures. 413 00:20:30,958 --> 00:20:33,225 You know, over a 30-year-period, you got four major fires, 414 00:20:33,227 --> 00:20:36,094 two really bad ones. - Yes. 415 00:20:36,096 --> 00:20:38,297 And I'm just shocked that nobody got injured or killed. 416 00:20:38,299 --> 00:20:39,931 It's amazing. 417 00:20:53,281 --> 00:20:55,914 Getting, like, a lot of smoke. 418 00:20:55,916 --> 00:20:58,717 Yeah, there's a lot of smoke up here. 419 00:20:58,719 --> 00:21:02,121 I'm seeing a woman, and she can't get out. 420 00:21:02,123 --> 00:21:04,289 I don't know what this is. 421 00:21:04,291 --> 00:21:06,058 She is panicked. 422 00:21:06,060 --> 00:21:08,527 She feels very dizzy, lightheaded. 423 00:21:10,531 --> 00:21:12,530 She can't breathe. 424 00:21:18,139 --> 00:21:19,872 I- I don't feel good. 425 00:21:19,874 --> 00:21:21,507 This is bad. 426 00:21:28,616 --> 00:21:31,016 For more information about the show 427 00:21:31,018 --> 00:21:32,551 and if you need us to investigate 428 00:21:32,553 --> 00:21:34,486 unexplained activity in your home... 429 00:21:34,488 --> 00:21:38,023 Please visit travelchannel.com/thedeadfiles. 430 00:21:38,025 --> 00:21:40,092 Click on "Help me, Dead Files!" to submit your story, 431 00:21:40,094 --> 00:21:41,160 and we'll help if we can. 432 00:21:48,202 --> 00:21:50,869 So far, I've got employees and guests 433 00:21:50,871 --> 00:21:52,604 being tormented by bizarre activity 434 00:21:52,606 --> 00:21:56,842 on a property devastated by four mysterious fires. 435 00:21:56,844 --> 00:21:59,311 But I wanna see if there's anything else. 436 00:21:59,313 --> 00:22:02,080 Searching through old records, I find a local police officer 437 00:22:02,082 --> 00:22:04,216 named Jason Rosenburger. 438 00:22:04,218 --> 00:22:06,752 Turns out, Jason was found dead right down the street 439 00:22:06,754 --> 00:22:08,754 from the Palmer House. 440 00:22:08,756 --> 00:22:10,889 So I have a local reporter 441 00:22:10,891 --> 00:22:12,624 looking into this cop's death for me. 442 00:22:12,626 --> 00:22:15,093 He did some digging and said not only did he figure out 443 00:22:15,095 --> 00:22:16,395 what happened to this guy, 444 00:22:16,397 --> 00:22:18,897 but he found another death associated with the Palmer House 445 00:22:18,899 --> 00:22:20,499 that may help me out. 446 00:22:25,940 --> 00:22:28,774 Mark, this article I came across where the cop wound up dead, 447 00:22:28,776 --> 00:22:30,976 what were you able to find out? 448 00:22:30,978 --> 00:22:33,578 On April 17, 1929, 449 00:22:33,580 --> 00:22:36,348 Jason Rosenburger was a policeman, 450 00:22:36,350 --> 00:22:40,452 also night patrol, was found dead at City Hall. 451 00:22:40,454 --> 00:22:41,854 How far is this from the Palmer House? 452 00:22:41,856 --> 00:22:43,955 Approximately 500 feet. 453 00:22:43,957 --> 00:22:45,891 In fact, the last person to see him alive 454 00:22:45,893 --> 00:22:48,393 was the night clerk at the Palmer House. 455 00:22:48,395 --> 00:22:49,928 I know this guy got shot, 456 00:22:49,930 --> 00:22:51,463 so do we know where the bullet entered? 457 00:22:51,465 --> 00:22:53,999 Next to his nose, just right underneath the eye. 458 00:22:54,001 --> 00:22:55,634 So I'm assuming this is a homicide. 459 00:22:55,636 --> 00:22:56,702 Not necessarily. 460 00:22:56,704 --> 00:22:58,604 The coroner's jury came back 461 00:22:58,606 --> 00:23:01,139 and said it was accidental discharge of the firearm. 462 00:23:01,141 --> 00:23:02,674 All right. So if it's accidental, 463 00:23:02,676 --> 00:23:04,843 I guess a round from his firearm was missing, 464 00:23:04,845 --> 00:23:06,311 and that's what he shot himself with. 465 00:23:06,313 --> 00:23:08,947 Well, that's where it gets interesting, because the round 466 00:23:08,949 --> 00:23:12,151 that they found did not match his gun. 467 00:23:12,153 --> 00:23:15,354 Plus, his gun was still fully loaded. 468 00:23:15,356 --> 00:23:18,624 So how the hell is this an accidental shooting? 469 00:23:18,626 --> 00:23:19,892 That, I don't know. 470 00:23:19,894 --> 00:23:22,227 To me, it's a homicide. 471 00:23:22,229 --> 00:23:23,394 I mean, it sounds almost like 472 00:23:23,396 --> 00:23:25,764 there's something being covered up. 473 00:23:27,768 --> 00:23:29,434 Somebody lost their left eye. 474 00:23:29,436 --> 00:23:32,871 It's a male. 475 00:23:32,873 --> 00:23:36,508 This male is getting shot, definitely a shooting. 476 00:23:36,510 --> 00:23:39,744 The guy in there got shot in the eye. 477 00:23:39,746 --> 00:23:42,247 I'm not being able to see out of it. 478 00:23:42,249 --> 00:23:44,816 He could absolutely be in denial. 479 00:23:44,818 --> 00:23:46,684 So, Mark, you mentioned on the phone 480 00:23:46,686 --> 00:23:48,587 there was another death that might help my case. Yes. 481 00:23:48,589 --> 00:23:52,257 Back in 1870, there was a freed slave named Mose 482 00:23:52,259 --> 00:23:54,126 that lived and worked at the property 483 00:23:54,128 --> 00:23:55,360 you're investigating. 484 00:23:55,362 --> 00:23:57,596 It was called the Barnum Hotel at that time. 485 00:23:57,598 --> 00:23:59,131 So do we know anything about this guy Mose? 486 00:23:59,133 --> 00:24:01,733 Well, it was known that he was terrified of ghosts. 487 00:24:01,735 --> 00:24:05,337 And also, he had experienced some paranormal activity 488 00:24:05,339 --> 00:24:06,872 at the Barnum Hotel. 489 00:24:06,874 --> 00:24:08,607 Well, this is something new I've never come across. 490 00:24:08,609 --> 00:24:12,544 So back in 1870, somebody was having experiences 491 00:24:12,546 --> 00:24:14,780 on the property I'm investigating now. 492 00:24:14,782 --> 00:24:16,815 - Correct. - How did he die? 493 00:24:16,817 --> 00:24:19,818 A couple of local boys wanted to pull a prank on him, 494 00:24:19,820 --> 00:24:21,253 dress up as ghosts. 495 00:24:21,255 --> 00:24:24,523 They hid in the hotel, and everywhere he turned, 496 00:24:24,525 --> 00:24:26,458 he'd run into a ghost, and he got so scared 497 00:24:26,460 --> 00:24:28,360 he just ran off into the woods, 498 00:24:28,362 --> 00:24:30,162 and he ended up spending the night out there. 499 00:24:30,164 --> 00:24:32,764 It was a cold and rainy night. 500 00:24:32,766 --> 00:24:34,900 Right. So did this guy die out in the woods? 501 00:24:34,902 --> 00:24:36,501 No. They found him the next morning, 502 00:24:36,503 --> 00:24:39,571 and he was horribly sick, brought him back to the hotel, 503 00:24:39,573 --> 00:24:42,141 where he later died on your client's property. 504 00:24:48,249 --> 00:24:51,049 I saw several disturbing things during my walk, 505 00:24:51,051 --> 00:24:53,518 but two stood out. 506 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:57,455 First, the shadows figures who hang out upstairs. 507 00:24:57,457 --> 00:24:58,657 There was one crawling on the ceiling. 508 00:24:58,659 --> 00:25:00,592 There was one crawling up the wall, 509 00:25:00,594 --> 00:25:05,263 and then others that were just really fragmented. 510 00:25:05,265 --> 00:25:10,135 One looked like he was dripping, like, chunks of tar. 511 00:25:10,137 --> 00:25:12,871 Next, I described the skeleton-face man 512 00:25:12,873 --> 00:25:15,807 attacking the living. 513 00:25:15,809 --> 00:25:18,009 There was this dead guy, 514 00:25:18,011 --> 00:25:21,213 and he was pretty tall, really thin, 515 00:25:21,215 --> 00:25:24,649 and he was punching a living person. 516 00:25:31,024 --> 00:25:33,091 Amy, is this what you saw? 517 00:25:33,093 --> 00:25:34,927 Yes, that's what I saw. 518 00:25:44,495 --> 00:25:47,964 Now that Amy and I have completed our investigations, 519 00:25:47,966 --> 00:25:50,166 we're ready to reveal our findings to each other 520 00:25:50,168 --> 00:25:52,835 and our clients for the first time. 521 00:25:52,837 --> 00:25:54,304 Well, Amy, I want you to meet Kelley. 522 00:25:54,306 --> 00:25:57,173 She owns the hotel and called us in because activity is bad 523 00:25:57,175 --> 00:25:58,608 and it's getting worse. 524 00:25:58,610 --> 00:25:59,943 I got to be up front with something. 525 00:25:59,945 --> 00:26:02,579 No matter what you say tonight, she ain't leaving. 526 00:26:04,715 --> 00:26:06,783 Wyatt's been living here for about 7 months, 527 00:26:06,785 --> 00:26:09,018 and he's already been through a hell of a lot, 528 00:26:09,020 --> 00:26:10,320 and I don't think it's going to take a lot 529 00:26:10,322 --> 00:26:11,921 to convince him to move. 530 00:26:11,923 --> 00:26:13,689 But they're hoping you can figure out a way 531 00:26:13,691 --> 00:26:16,258 to make this place safe. 532 00:26:16,260 --> 00:26:18,060 So now that Amy has met you guys, 533 00:26:18,062 --> 00:26:20,196 I'm going to ask her to describe her walk for us. 534 00:26:24,035 --> 00:26:27,837 I got that this was a gathering spot for the dead, 535 00:26:27,839 --> 00:26:30,739 and it has been for a very, very long time, 536 00:26:30,741 --> 00:26:32,675 and because of that, 537 00:26:32,677 --> 00:26:35,811 there is this huge collection 538 00:26:35,813 --> 00:26:40,216 of residual information. 539 00:26:40,218 --> 00:26:43,252 I think that living would maybe hear partying going on. 540 00:26:43,254 --> 00:26:45,555 You'd hear, like, glasses clinking, chairs moving, 541 00:26:45,557 --> 00:26:47,156 people walking around. 542 00:26:47,158 --> 00:26:51,493 If you're consistently exposed to this kind of energy, 543 00:26:51,495 --> 00:26:53,696 it can make somebody sick. 544 00:26:53,698 --> 00:26:55,031 Well, it's funny. 545 00:26:55,033 --> 00:26:57,200 You hit on some of the experiences they're having. 546 00:26:57,202 --> 00:26:58,701 Now, Wyatt, you mentioned it sounded like 547 00:26:58,703 --> 00:27:00,102 somebody dropped a... 548 00:27:00,104 --> 00:27:02,371 30-pound weight above me, and it's during a time 549 00:27:02,373 --> 00:27:05,308 when I know there's nobody in the hotel. 550 00:27:05,310 --> 00:27:08,577 - Kelley, you've heard footsteps. - That's very common. 551 00:27:08,579 --> 00:27:11,581 I've had other guests talk about that as well. 552 00:27:11,583 --> 00:27:16,018 Now, Kelley, and you as well, Wyatt, told me about being sick. 553 00:27:16,020 --> 00:27:21,390 There are some days that it's just unexplainable fatigue, 554 00:27:21,392 --> 00:27:22,859 the headache, nausea... 555 00:27:22,861 --> 00:27:25,194 ...feeling a little off-balance or dizzy. 556 00:27:25,196 --> 00:27:27,397 I get the exact same kind of feeling. 557 00:27:28,533 --> 00:27:31,200 Sick to my stomach, a little woozy. 558 00:27:31,202 --> 00:27:34,069 Amy, you said you got a lot of residual information. 559 00:27:34,071 --> 00:27:38,675 Well, this building we're sitting in was built in 1901. 560 00:27:38,677 --> 00:27:41,177 I have a photo right around when it was built. 561 00:27:41,179 --> 00:27:44,981 There's been a hotel on this property since at least 1867. 562 00:27:44,983 --> 00:27:47,316 You can imagine, there's been a lot of people over the years 563 00:27:47,318 --> 00:27:49,018 that have come through here. 564 00:27:49,020 --> 00:27:50,520 That totally makes sense 565 00:27:50,522 --> 00:27:52,855 with all the residual energy that's here. 566 00:27:56,093 --> 00:27:57,526 Okay, so what else? 567 00:27:57,528 --> 00:27:58,961 So I'm on the third floor. 568 00:27:58,963 --> 00:28:03,499 I'm literally tasting smoke in my mouth and coughing. 569 00:28:03,501 --> 00:28:06,569 Then I'm feeling this woman, but she was all alone 570 00:28:06,571 --> 00:28:08,771 and she was freaking out, so she was panicking, too, 571 00:28:08,773 --> 00:28:09,772 which was making it worse 572 00:28:09,774 --> 00:28:11,641 because she was breathing more in. 573 00:28:11,643 --> 00:28:13,109 There's something you should know about, Amy, 574 00:28:13,111 --> 00:28:14,410 about this place. 575 00:28:14,412 --> 00:28:16,512 There were four major fires here. 576 00:28:16,514 --> 00:28:18,047 Holy... 577 00:28:18,049 --> 00:28:20,016 First fire happened in 1873 578 00:28:20,018 --> 00:28:22,985 when this hotel was known as the Sauk Centre House. 579 00:28:22,987 --> 00:28:26,322 Here's a photo of the original hotel. 580 00:28:26,324 --> 00:28:28,324 Then in February of 1885, 581 00:28:28,326 --> 00:28:30,626 the Sauk Centre Hotel partially burned down. 582 00:28:30,628 --> 00:28:32,328 Records are kind of thin on that fire, 583 00:28:32,330 --> 00:28:35,131 so we don't know what happened, but nobody was hurt. 584 00:28:35,133 --> 00:28:36,733 The next fire was in 1900, 585 00:28:36,735 --> 00:28:38,100 and this one started in the kitchen. 586 00:28:38,102 --> 00:28:41,537 Once again, no casualties, but the building was destroyed. 587 00:28:41,539 --> 00:28:43,606 After that fire, this hotel was built. 588 00:28:43,608 --> 00:28:47,610 Now, the final fire happened in July of 1905 589 00:28:47,612 --> 00:28:49,312 at about 2:45 a.m., 590 00:28:49,314 --> 00:28:50,613 and that was the scariest one. 591 00:28:50,615 --> 00:28:53,882 They had 45 employees and guests in the hotel at the time. 592 00:28:53,884 --> 00:28:56,485 They were forced to evacuate, but eight of those people 593 00:28:56,487 --> 00:28:58,954 were trapped upstairs on the second floor. 594 00:28:58,956 --> 00:29:00,556 They had to jump out of the window... 595 00:29:00,558 --> 00:29:03,659 ...onto the old canvas tarps to escape. 596 00:29:03,661 --> 00:29:06,562 I actually have an article on that fire. 597 00:29:06,564 --> 00:29:08,430 Now, the building was badly damaged. 598 00:29:08,432 --> 00:29:11,367 But amazingly enough, again, there was no casualties. 599 00:29:11,369 --> 00:29:14,037 - That's a lot of fires. - I did not know that. 600 00:29:16,174 --> 00:29:19,808 So I'm in the dining room, and now I'm getting this guy. 601 00:29:19,810 --> 00:29:21,743 And he's shot in one of his eyes, 602 00:29:21,745 --> 00:29:23,780 'cause I couldn't see out of the eye. 603 00:29:23,782 --> 00:29:29,118 He is a dead person, but he's in denial. 604 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:33,456 I did come across one individual that was shot in the eye, 605 00:29:33,458 --> 00:29:35,524 and his name was Jason Rosenburger. 606 00:29:35,526 --> 00:29:39,495 Yeah, he was a Sauk Centre policeman and a night watchman. Wow. 607 00:29:39,497 --> 00:29:42,465 April 17, 1929, his body was found in the old City Hall, 608 00:29:42,467 --> 00:29:43,999 less than 500 feet from here. 609 00:29:44,001 --> 00:29:47,536 In fact, the Palmer House Hotel was on Rosenburger's beat, 610 00:29:47,538 --> 00:29:49,205 and the night that he died, 611 00:29:49,207 --> 00:29:51,673 this was the last location he was seen alive. 612 00:29:51,675 --> 00:29:54,276 He had been shot in the face, and the bullet entered 613 00:29:54,278 --> 00:29:55,812 just underneath his eye. 614 00:29:55,814 --> 00:29:58,815 Now the coroner's jury decided it was an accidental death. 615 00:29:58,817 --> 00:30:00,349 I don't buy it. 616 00:30:00,351 --> 00:30:02,885 The bullet on the scene didn't match the bullets in his gun. 617 00:30:02,887 --> 00:30:06,355 Not only that, no round was discharged from his firearm. 618 00:30:06,357 --> 00:30:08,056 I'm convinced it was a homicide. 619 00:30:08,058 --> 00:30:09,225 I...Yeah. 620 00:30:09,227 --> 00:30:10,860 - You agree? - Absolutely. 621 00:30:10,862 --> 00:30:12,562 Whatever happened, happened so quick. 622 00:30:12,564 --> 00:30:17,100 He had no knowledge because he's in complete denial of his death. 623 00:30:17,102 --> 00:30:19,235 I- I didn't know any of this, 624 00:30:19,237 --> 00:30:22,705 and everything is so much more real. 625 00:30:27,779 --> 00:30:30,846 So another thing that I saw -- now we're going back up 626 00:30:30,848 --> 00:30:32,314 to the third floor, 627 00:30:32,316 --> 00:30:36,018 and I see about four to six shadow beings, 628 00:30:36,020 --> 00:30:39,321 and I knew pretty damn quickly 629 00:30:39,323 --> 00:30:42,658 that they were actually dead men, 630 00:30:42,660 --> 00:30:44,159 and the thing is, is that these are 631 00:30:44,161 --> 00:30:46,262 severely mentally ill people. 632 00:30:46,264 --> 00:30:50,766 I think the biggest problem with this for the living 633 00:30:50,768 --> 00:30:55,004 is that, when you're exposed to that kind of energy, 634 00:30:55,006 --> 00:30:59,642 you're going to start having behavioral changes yourself -- 635 00:30:59,644 --> 00:31:04,680 anger, acting kind of off would begin to happen. 636 00:31:04,682 --> 00:31:06,282 I've noticed that myself. 637 00:31:06,284 --> 00:31:08,016 In yourself? Even in myself. 638 00:31:08,018 --> 00:31:11,854 What kind of thoughts or emotions were you having? 639 00:31:11,856 --> 00:31:15,123 A lot of anxiety, panicky, a lot of nervousness 640 00:31:15,125 --> 00:31:17,159 that came out of nowhere. 641 00:31:17,161 --> 00:31:19,862 There's days where all of the employees, 642 00:31:19,864 --> 00:31:22,698 there can just be very erratic, 643 00:31:22,700 --> 00:31:24,900 unreasonable behavior, actually. 644 00:31:24,902 --> 00:31:27,370 - Really? - You got a hotel here. 645 00:31:27,372 --> 00:31:28,704 Why don't you just sell it, right? 646 00:31:28,706 --> 00:31:32,140 But I want you to tell Amy how important this is. 647 00:31:32,142 --> 00:31:35,511 I have come to take it very personal and very seriously 648 00:31:35,513 --> 00:31:37,113 that this is my purpose, 649 00:31:37,115 --> 00:31:41,817 and my life is to be the steward for it now. 650 00:31:41,819 --> 00:31:43,185 And this is why, I told you at the beginning, 651 00:31:43,187 --> 00:31:44,686 she's not giving up. 652 00:31:44,688 --> 00:31:46,222 She's not moving. 653 00:31:46,224 --> 00:31:47,789 The crazy people that look like shadows, 654 00:31:47,791 --> 00:31:50,259 now would the living see that? 655 00:31:50,261 --> 00:31:52,261 Or is that something only you saw? 656 00:31:52,263 --> 00:31:56,332 I do think that the living would occasionally see shadow figures, 657 00:31:56,334 --> 00:31:59,969 and I had a sketch done of specifically what I saw. 658 00:32:11,349 --> 00:32:13,382 Here you go, guys. 659 00:32:19,490 --> 00:32:22,625 I gotta say that that's exactly kind of how it feels. 660 00:32:22,627 --> 00:32:25,628 It just feels like I'm falling apart. 661 00:32:25,630 --> 00:32:30,233 Just about everyone I talked to here has seen shadow figures. 662 00:32:30,235 --> 00:32:32,902 Other guests have shared with me... Right. 663 00:32:32,904 --> 00:32:34,136 ...lots of different things... Yeah. 664 00:32:34,138 --> 00:32:35,905 ...that are fairly extreme. 665 00:32:35,907 --> 00:32:37,807 What did you consider extreme? 666 00:32:37,809 --> 00:32:39,475 On the ceiling, for example. 667 00:32:39,477 --> 00:32:41,344 - Yeah. - Up the wall. 668 00:32:41,346 --> 00:32:42,711 That would be terrifying. 669 00:32:42,713 --> 00:32:45,047 Yeah. I would think so, yeah. 670 00:32:45,049 --> 00:32:47,116 Kelley here has seen specific shadow figures 671 00:32:47,118 --> 00:32:48,717 down here in this basement. 672 00:32:48,719 --> 00:32:49,852 He is so big. 673 00:32:49,854 --> 00:32:54,222 His mass is so wide and he's so tall. 674 00:32:54,224 --> 00:32:57,459 - Is that what she's seeing? - No. Mnh-mnh, no. 675 00:32:57,461 --> 00:32:59,928 - That's somebody else. - Ooh. 676 00:32:59,930 --> 00:33:01,797 - That's not good news. - Yeah. 677 00:33:04,535 --> 00:33:07,937 So one of the dead people that I encountered 678 00:33:07,939 --> 00:33:11,874 was a dead woman who was murdered. 679 00:33:11,876 --> 00:33:14,944 She was murdered by the guy that she was with, 680 00:33:14,946 --> 00:33:18,281 and he's here, and he's very active here, 681 00:33:18,283 --> 00:33:20,082 but I'll get to him in a second. 682 00:33:20,084 --> 00:33:23,586 The woman is most active in the kitchen. 683 00:33:23,588 --> 00:33:25,955 She can get physical with the living, 684 00:33:25,957 --> 00:33:28,991 and I did see her pushing a female 685 00:33:28,993 --> 00:33:30,759 out one of the doors out there. 686 00:33:30,761 --> 00:33:32,394 Like, just pushing her out. 687 00:33:32,396 --> 00:33:33,628 Now, Kelley, you weren't pushed, 688 00:33:33,630 --> 00:33:35,498 but you had something thrown at you. 689 00:33:35,500 --> 00:33:37,699 There was a mixing bowl. 690 00:33:37,701 --> 00:33:40,903 It flew off of the shelf it was on, 691 00:33:40,905 --> 00:33:43,038 about 10 feet through the air. 692 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:45,708 So she's throwing... 693 00:33:45,710 --> 00:33:47,710 Now how about the guy that killed her? 694 00:33:47,712 --> 00:33:51,047 Yes. I'm gonna refer to him as "skeleton face." 695 00:33:51,049 --> 00:33:53,449 This is the male who killed this female. 696 00:33:53,451 --> 00:33:56,285 He is definitely the biggest threat. 697 00:33:56,287 --> 00:33:58,320 He's very, very powerful, 698 00:33:58,322 --> 00:34:01,190 very dangerous, and very secretive. 699 00:34:01,192 --> 00:34:05,127 There are a few things that I was able to get out of him. 700 00:34:05,129 --> 00:34:07,396 He was white, lots of money. 701 00:34:07,398 --> 00:34:11,100 I got that the 1890s were very important to him, 702 00:34:11,102 --> 00:34:13,536 absolute connection to this location. 703 00:34:13,538 --> 00:34:17,472 He made it very clear to me that he did a lot of bad things 704 00:34:17,474 --> 00:34:18,674 when he was alive, 705 00:34:18,676 --> 00:34:21,944 and that included killing several people. 706 00:34:21,946 --> 00:34:24,680 You know, it's not a lot to go on, but some of the stuff 707 00:34:24,682 --> 00:34:25,947 you were talking about reminds me 708 00:34:25,949 --> 00:34:28,017 of one of the past owners of this place. 709 00:34:28,019 --> 00:34:29,684 His name was Cassius Sprigg. 710 00:34:29,686 --> 00:34:31,987 You mentioned the 1890s were important to him. 711 00:34:31,989 --> 00:34:34,156 Now, he bought this property in 1898. 712 00:34:34,158 --> 00:34:36,492 Now, the guy you saw killed people when he was alive. 713 00:34:36,494 --> 00:34:39,261 Well, Cassius fought in the Dakota-Indian Wars. 714 00:34:39,263 --> 00:34:41,897 Now, we have no idea how many people Cassius killed, 715 00:34:41,899 --> 00:34:43,699 but we do know that the war ended 716 00:34:43,701 --> 00:34:45,967 with the execution of 38 people, 717 00:34:45,969 --> 00:34:48,037 and he was part of all this. 718 00:34:48,039 --> 00:34:49,772 To this day, it's the largest mass execution 719 00:34:49,774 --> 00:34:51,073 in American history. 720 00:34:51,075 --> 00:34:54,109 Now, Sprigg only owned this hotel for a few years. 721 00:34:54,111 --> 00:34:55,977 After he got out of the hotel business, though, 722 00:34:55,979 --> 00:35:00,416 he got into banking and made a small fortune. 723 00:35:00,418 --> 00:35:03,219 I've got a photo of him. 724 00:35:03,221 --> 00:35:06,122 Any chances this is who you saw? 725 00:35:06,124 --> 00:35:07,823 - Any idea? - I don't think so 726 00:35:07,825 --> 00:35:10,526 'cause he made it seem like the killings 727 00:35:10,528 --> 00:35:16,365 he did were not, like, public knowledge. 728 00:35:16,367 --> 00:35:18,700 Now you said you were concerned about the skeleton-face guy. 729 00:35:18,702 --> 00:35:19,802 Why is that? 730 00:35:19,804 --> 00:35:23,539 This guy is capable of mimicking voices, 731 00:35:23,541 --> 00:35:25,107 mimicking people. 732 00:35:25,109 --> 00:35:26,609 So like, a friend, coworker, 733 00:35:26,611 --> 00:35:28,043 when you think they're saying something 734 00:35:28,045 --> 00:35:30,679 and there's nobody there. 735 00:35:30,681 --> 00:35:33,749 That's a common occurrence for myself and other employees, 736 00:35:33,751 --> 00:35:36,952 and you keep trying to go find it, thinking, 737 00:35:36,954 --> 00:35:39,021 "Maybe somebody came back into the building," 738 00:35:39,023 --> 00:35:41,690 and then that's eventually realized 739 00:35:41,692 --> 00:35:43,492 that you're in the building alone. 740 00:35:43,494 --> 00:35:47,296 And what's probably the most frightening for living people 741 00:35:47,298 --> 00:35:50,433 is that he does know how to jump people. 742 00:35:50,435 --> 00:35:53,102 He was trying to do it to me throughout my walk, 743 00:35:53,104 --> 00:35:54,904 and he was extremely aggressive 744 00:35:54,906 --> 00:35:57,106 when I got down into the basement. 745 00:35:57,108 --> 00:36:00,910 My god. 746 00:36:00,912 --> 00:36:03,712 These are two people that feel like they've been jumped. 747 00:36:03,714 --> 00:36:05,647 I don't have a lot of memory when it happened to me, 748 00:36:05,649 --> 00:36:08,584 I just knew it wasn't me. 749 00:36:08,586 --> 00:36:10,051 Couldn't collect my thoughts. 750 00:36:10,053 --> 00:36:13,055 Like, I felt like this outer shell of me was doing something, 751 00:36:13,057 --> 00:36:15,658 and the inside was looking around going, 752 00:36:15,660 --> 00:36:17,793 "What is going on?" 753 00:36:17,795 --> 00:36:20,228 Something similar happened to Wyatt. 754 00:36:20,230 --> 00:36:22,864 I was down here in the basement and was just, like, 755 00:36:22,866 --> 00:36:24,400 a snap of my fingers, 756 00:36:24,402 --> 00:36:27,069 and I felt overcome and overwhelmed. 757 00:36:27,071 --> 00:36:31,407 He will do anything he can to instill fear 758 00:36:31,409 --> 00:36:33,408 and get the living out of here, 759 00:36:33,410 --> 00:36:36,612 and that can become physical or be physical -- 760 00:36:36,614 --> 00:36:39,548 slapping, pushing, punching. 761 00:36:39,550 --> 00:36:42,584 I saw him punching a male in the back, 762 00:36:42,586 --> 00:36:44,820 and I did have a sketch done. 763 00:36:44,822 --> 00:36:48,224 This should be interesting. 764 00:36:57,435 --> 00:36:59,902 Ooh. 765 00:37:07,911 --> 00:37:10,445 That's some picture, ain't it? 766 00:37:10,447 --> 00:37:13,248 I don't know even know what to say to that. 767 00:37:13,250 --> 00:37:15,717 My god. 768 00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:19,254 What's this speck behind it? What's this going on? 769 00:37:19,256 --> 00:37:20,455 This is a friend of his, 770 00:37:20,457 --> 00:37:22,324 and they're killing this guy here. 771 00:37:22,326 --> 00:37:24,093 He didn't want me to see that. 772 00:37:26,997 --> 00:37:29,531 He's gotta go. 773 00:37:29,533 --> 00:37:31,867 What the hell does this guy want from these guys? 774 00:37:31,869 --> 00:37:33,969 Basically, he wants to kill living people. 775 00:37:49,237 --> 00:37:50,535 Kelley, you made it very clear 776 00:37:50,537 --> 00:37:52,471 that leaving here is not an option for you. 777 00:37:52,473 --> 00:37:54,206 But after what we've heard tonight, 778 00:37:54,208 --> 00:37:57,609 it's crystal clear that it's not safe here for you, 779 00:37:57,611 --> 00:37:59,445 your employees or the guests. 780 00:37:59,447 --> 00:38:02,347 Now we're going to find out if there's any way to change that. 781 00:38:02,349 --> 00:38:04,416 For that answer, I'm going to turn it over to Amy. 782 00:38:08,622 --> 00:38:11,257 I have something to say really quickly. 783 00:38:11,259 --> 00:38:12,992 A few days after my walk, 784 00:38:12,994 --> 00:38:16,428 I see that you're doing an event here -- 785 00:38:16,430 --> 00:38:18,764 a ghost tour. - Yeah. 786 00:38:22,069 --> 00:38:23,469 How long have you been doing that? 787 00:38:23,471 --> 00:38:26,005 Probably for about 4 or 5 years now. 788 00:38:26,007 --> 00:38:29,140 You've noticed an increase in activity? 789 00:38:29,142 --> 00:38:33,278 I would say that's fair. 790 00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:35,214 When you're stirring up this kind of activity, 791 00:38:35,216 --> 00:38:38,617 ...gonna go wrong. 792 00:38:38,619 --> 00:38:39,751 I gotta ask you. 793 00:38:39,753 --> 00:38:41,387 When we talked, you never really mentioned 794 00:38:41,389 --> 00:38:43,455 about this whole ghost-hunting thing. 795 00:38:43,457 --> 00:38:48,159 I never thought of that as being a contributing factor. 796 00:38:48,161 --> 00:38:52,197 A big reason of why I do what I do is the dead. 797 00:38:52,199 --> 00:38:57,202 These were people, and they still are people. 798 00:38:57,204 --> 00:39:02,141 It's easy, I think, for the living, um, 799 00:39:02,143 --> 00:39:07,947 to have a disassociation with that concept. 800 00:39:07,949 --> 00:39:11,617 My question is, what do you want to do? 801 00:39:11,619 --> 00:39:15,354 And do you want the dead here or not? 802 00:39:20,694 --> 00:39:24,896 If they need moving on, I'm in complete support of that. 803 00:39:24,898 --> 00:39:27,433 All right. So how do they get rid of 'em? 804 00:39:27,435 --> 00:39:30,035 You do have to find a male medium 805 00:39:30,037 --> 00:39:34,506 who is also a chaos magician. 806 00:39:34,508 --> 00:39:39,111 He is going to basically collect 807 00:39:39,113 --> 00:39:41,714 the dead skeleton guy 808 00:39:41,716 --> 00:39:45,784 and remove him from the location altogether. 809 00:39:45,786 --> 00:39:49,054 The other thing that does is that it literally 810 00:39:49,056 --> 00:39:53,025 will clear the basement of not only him but also 811 00:39:53,027 --> 00:39:58,597 all the residual information and energy down here. 812 00:39:58,599 --> 00:40:05,003 So, like, this basement? Nothing. Nothing going on. 813 00:40:05,005 --> 00:40:07,473 So she won't see the shadows down here, won't get jumped. 814 00:40:07,475 --> 00:40:09,942 Yeah, that's right. 815 00:40:09,944 --> 00:40:13,612 On another day, the same medium could come back and remove 816 00:40:13,614 --> 00:40:17,949 all of the shadow people and the pissy lady. 817 00:40:17,951 --> 00:40:22,954 Unfortunately, the cop, nothing, at this point, can be done. 818 00:40:22,956 --> 00:40:25,891 Now, if you want to keep doing ghost tours, 819 00:40:25,893 --> 00:40:28,360 you can keep the residual, 820 00:40:28,362 --> 00:40:31,430 and there is a plethora of it. 821 00:40:31,432 --> 00:40:33,231 So, Kelley, when we first talked, 822 00:40:33,233 --> 00:40:36,167 you were just about ready to break down. 823 00:40:36,169 --> 00:40:40,072 Now it looks like you get to not only keep your place 824 00:40:40,074 --> 00:40:43,341 but find out a way to make it safe 825 00:40:43,343 --> 00:40:45,844 and still have it as an attraction for people 826 00:40:45,846 --> 00:40:48,714 that are into the ghost hunting. 827 00:40:48,716 --> 00:40:51,316 That would absolutely be ideal. 828 00:40:51,318 --> 00:40:54,586 Now the ultimate question -- Are you gonna do what she says? 829 00:40:54,588 --> 00:40:57,055 Yes, I absolutely will. 830 00:40:57,057 --> 00:40:57,989 So, Wyatt, what about you? 831 00:40:57,991 --> 00:40:59,458 Would you be willing to help out? 832 00:40:59,460 --> 00:41:01,993 Yeah, I'm here for her. 833 00:41:01,995 --> 00:41:09,300 I am so immensely pleased and relieved and grateful. 834 00:41:09,302 --> 00:41:13,205 I feel very optimistic about everything. 835 00:41:13,207 --> 00:41:14,806 It won't be easy 836 00:41:14,808 --> 00:41:16,742 removing the dangerous dead inside this hotel. 837 00:41:16,744 --> 00:41:19,611 But if Kelley contacts the medium, who is also 838 00:41:19,613 --> 00:41:22,013 a chaos magician, to banish the dead, 839 00:41:22,015 --> 00:41:24,415 her guests and employees will be safe, 840 00:41:24,417 --> 00:41:27,419 and she can keep running the hotel she loves so much. 841 00:41:27,469 --> 00:41:32,019 Repair and Synchronization by Easy Subtitles Synchronizer 1.0.0.0 66019

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