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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:10,845 --> 00:00:13,379 Something is wrong. 2 00:00:13,381 --> 00:00:16,081 I don't know. I don't feel good in here. 3 00:00:16,083 --> 00:00:17,916 I'm losing my family. 4 00:00:17,918 --> 00:00:18,851 This is pure evil. 5 00:00:18,853 --> 00:00:22,221 She doesn't remember dying. 6 00:00:22,223 --> 00:00:26,925 This is a hell house, and I just feel like we're cursed. 7 00:00:26,927 --> 00:00:28,861 Doorway's been opened. 8 00:00:28,863 --> 00:00:31,296 Living people have a lot of horrible experiences 9 00:00:31,298 --> 00:00:32,898 in this place. 10 00:00:32,900 --> 00:00:35,100 This seems like a possession. 11 00:00:35,102 --> 00:00:37,836 My name is Amy Allan. 12 00:00:37,838 --> 00:00:40,406 Everything was built on blood. 13 00:00:40,408 --> 00:00:41,774 I see dead people. 14 00:00:41,776 --> 00:00:43,075 Very disturbing. 15 00:00:43,077 --> 00:00:45,377 I speak to dead people. 16 00:00:45,379 --> 00:00:47,679 There's victims around him. Ow. 17 00:00:47,681 --> 00:00:48,714 And they speak to me. 18 00:00:48,716 --> 00:00:50,983 Her voice sounds like death. 19 00:00:50,985 --> 00:00:54,153 But there's only one way to know if my findings are real. 20 00:00:54,155 --> 00:00:56,588 The living don't stand a chance here. 21 00:00:56,590 --> 00:00:58,390 I rely on my partner. 22 00:00:58,392 --> 00:00:59,691 I'm Steve Di Schiavi. 23 00:00:59,693 --> 00:01:01,894 I'm a retired New York City homicide detective. 24 00:01:01,896 --> 00:01:03,128 You could have got killed. 25 00:01:03,130 --> 00:01:06,932 And I know every person, every house has secrets. 26 00:01:06,934 --> 00:01:08,167 This is coming straight from hell. 27 00:01:08,169 --> 00:01:09,568 It's my job to reveal them. 28 00:01:09,570 --> 00:01:11,236 Your mom was murdered right here in this room? 29 00:01:11,238 --> 00:01:12,271 Yes, she was. 30 00:01:12,273 --> 00:01:13,839 But Steve and I never speak... 31 00:01:13,841 --> 00:01:15,874 We never communicate during an investigation. 32 00:01:15,876 --> 00:01:17,276 ...until the very end... 33 00:01:17,278 --> 00:01:18,644 This was just the beginning. 34 00:01:18,646 --> 00:01:20,679 ...when we uncover if it's safe for you to stay... 35 00:01:20,681 --> 00:01:22,080 Oh, my God. 36 00:01:22,082 --> 00:01:24,216 ...or time to get out. 37 00:01:24,218 --> 00:01:26,151 They're very bad. 38 00:01:26,153 --> 00:01:28,520 This house is going to kill me. 39 00:01:41,502 --> 00:01:43,068 I'm out here in Layton, Utah. 40 00:01:43,070 --> 00:01:45,170 It's a suburb of Salt Lake City. 41 00:01:45,172 --> 00:01:47,105 I got called in by a guy named Craig. 42 00:01:47,107 --> 00:01:49,374 This guy thought he was doing the right thing by his daughter 43 00:01:49,376 --> 00:01:51,143 and her family when he bought them a house 44 00:01:51,145 --> 00:01:52,344 just down the street from him. 45 00:01:52,346 --> 00:01:54,246 Problem is this. 46 00:01:54,248 --> 00:01:57,649 Something in that house is going after his 6-year-old grandson, 47 00:01:57,651 --> 00:01:59,952 and the activity is ripping his family apart. 48 00:01:59,954 --> 00:02:02,855 He sounded pretty desperate, and I'm hoping we can help him out. 49 00:02:05,392 --> 00:02:08,026 Before Amy arrives, I clear the area of anything 50 00:02:08,028 --> 00:02:10,028 that might influence her findings. 51 00:02:10,030 --> 00:02:12,531 Personal items and family photographs 52 00:02:12,533 --> 00:02:15,334 have to be covered or removed. 53 00:02:15,336 --> 00:02:17,870 When I'm finished, tonight's walk can begin. 54 00:02:25,946 --> 00:02:31,149 Something is wrong here. 55 00:02:31,151 --> 00:02:35,787 I'm hearing wreaking havoc, causing commotion. 56 00:02:35,789 --> 00:02:38,924 Don't like this place. 57 00:02:38,926 --> 00:02:42,828 There's a lot of sadness in this house. 58 00:02:42,830 --> 00:02:46,698 This is not good. 59 00:02:46,700 --> 00:02:49,434 Living people have a lot of horrible experiences 60 00:02:49,436 --> 00:02:50,636 in this place. 61 00:03:01,949 --> 00:03:03,181 When we spoke on the phone, 62 00:03:03,183 --> 00:03:04,983 you sounded like you were at the end of your rope. 63 00:03:04,985 --> 00:03:06,385 What the hell is going on here? 64 00:03:06,387 --> 00:03:09,321 I'm losing my family, and I need some help. 65 00:03:09,323 --> 00:03:11,156 All right. So, Craig, you don't live here. 66 00:03:11,158 --> 00:03:12,424 No. I don't live here. 67 00:03:12,426 --> 00:03:14,826 I bought this house for my daughter. 68 00:03:14,828 --> 00:03:16,528 That's my daughter, Emily. 69 00:03:16,530 --> 00:03:18,230 This is my son-in-law, Justin. 70 00:03:18,232 --> 00:03:20,232 This is my grandson, Hayden. 71 00:03:20,234 --> 00:03:23,035 He's just turned 6 years old. 72 00:03:23,037 --> 00:03:25,370 We wanted to help them out. 73 00:03:25,372 --> 00:03:27,439 But you know what? It's so bad. 74 00:03:27,441 --> 00:03:29,508 They can't even live here. 75 00:03:29,510 --> 00:03:33,011 After being here a month, Emily and Hayden had to leave. 76 00:03:33,013 --> 00:03:35,614 Okay. Where to? To my house. 77 00:03:35,616 --> 00:03:37,015 Okay. So who's living here now? 78 00:03:37,017 --> 00:03:42,254 My son-in-law, Justin, has been here all by himself 79 00:03:42,256 --> 00:03:44,222 for the last 5 months, 80 00:03:44,224 --> 00:03:46,792 and he refuses to leave. 81 00:03:46,794 --> 00:03:48,660 Okay. So what's going on in the house? 82 00:03:48,662 --> 00:03:52,464 Footsteps, doors opening and closing. 83 00:03:52,466 --> 00:03:55,367 We also experience shadow people. 84 00:03:55,369 --> 00:03:56,602 When we spoke on the phone, 85 00:03:56,604 --> 00:03:58,637 you mentioned that your grandson was an issue. 86 00:03:58,639 --> 00:04:01,573 I have seen a dramatic change in him. 87 00:04:01,575 --> 00:04:03,508 He used to be a sweet little child. 88 00:04:03,510 --> 00:04:06,278 Now he's a terror. 89 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:09,247 Lots of 6-years-old are terrors. No. 90 00:04:09,249 --> 00:04:12,918 Whatever this is has taken complete control of him. 91 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:15,754 I firmly believe he is being possessed. 92 00:04:15,756 --> 00:04:20,525 This thing here has one goal, one goal, and that is to hurt. 93 00:04:20,527 --> 00:04:22,728 Why don't you just sell this house and get out of here? 94 00:04:22,730 --> 00:04:24,930 Moving them out will not solve the problem 95 00:04:24,932 --> 00:04:28,600 because this thing here travels. 96 00:04:28,602 --> 00:04:30,469 It goes down to our house. 97 00:04:30,471 --> 00:04:33,905 When they moved in, all of a sudden, it started to go crazy. 98 00:04:33,907 --> 00:04:36,675 Shadow people showed up. 99 00:04:36,677 --> 00:04:38,810 What are you hoping we can do for you? 100 00:04:38,812 --> 00:04:42,681 Plain and simple, my family needs to be protected. 101 00:04:42,683 --> 00:04:44,650 That's all that I care about. 102 00:04:47,955 --> 00:04:51,790 There's a kid here, like, a boy, a male. 103 00:04:51,792 --> 00:04:54,693 Was he a living person? 104 00:04:54,695 --> 00:04:55,927 Pretty sure. 105 00:04:55,929 --> 00:04:57,396 He's out of control. 106 00:04:57,398 --> 00:04:58,730 He's out of control. 107 00:05:03,037 --> 00:05:05,337 He's got a lot of rage. 108 00:05:05,339 --> 00:05:08,507 Oh, he's, like, screaming and yelling and freaking out 109 00:05:08,509 --> 00:05:10,442 and just losing his [bleep], 110 00:05:10,444 --> 00:05:13,445 like, starting fights. 111 00:05:13,447 --> 00:05:15,514 There's something... 112 00:05:15,516 --> 00:05:19,017 not right with his scream. 113 00:05:26,026 --> 00:05:27,259 You weren't kidding when they said 114 00:05:27,261 --> 00:05:28,460 they got out of here in a hurry. 115 00:05:28,462 --> 00:05:29,628 They didn't even unpack. 116 00:05:29,630 --> 00:05:33,331 They stopped because of the activity. 117 00:05:33,333 --> 00:05:34,866 So why'd you bring me in here? 118 00:05:34,868 --> 00:05:37,135 Hayden has told us time and time again, 119 00:05:37,137 --> 00:05:40,205 "Down here, I see shadow people go like this." 120 00:05:40,207 --> 00:05:43,108 They cover their arms like this. Okay. 121 00:05:43,110 --> 00:05:45,610 And they disappear in the walls, and they come out of the walls. 122 00:05:45,612 --> 00:05:48,080 Are these the same shadow figures you told me you've seen? 123 00:05:48,082 --> 00:05:50,882 Yes. Okay. Anything else? 124 00:05:50,884 --> 00:05:52,317 I came downstairs here, 125 00:05:52,319 --> 00:05:55,053 and I was right up against the door 126 00:05:55,055 --> 00:05:58,056 that leads into the lower basement. 127 00:05:58,058 --> 00:06:00,459 I could feel something grab at me. 128 00:06:00,461 --> 00:06:02,694 So did it feel like a person was grabbing you? 129 00:06:02,696 --> 00:06:06,465 It felt like three separate sets of arms 130 00:06:06,467 --> 00:06:08,333 had grabbed me around the chest, 131 00:06:08,335 --> 00:06:09,468 and it grabbed me around the stomach, 132 00:06:09,470 --> 00:06:10,702 and it grabbed me around my legs, 133 00:06:10,704 --> 00:06:12,671 so I couldn't get away. 134 00:06:12,673 --> 00:06:15,440 Now, did you hear or see anything when this was going on? 135 00:06:15,442 --> 00:06:18,043 No. Okay. Anything else? 136 00:06:18,045 --> 00:06:21,747 Every time that we're here, you can always feel 137 00:06:21,749 --> 00:06:23,882 somebody watching you. 138 00:06:23,884 --> 00:06:28,153 You just feel that you're just not alone. 139 00:06:28,155 --> 00:06:30,922 You on any medication, drinking, maybe? 140 00:06:30,924 --> 00:06:32,057 No. 141 00:06:32,059 --> 00:06:33,692 If we do nothing, and it goes unchecked, 142 00:06:33,694 --> 00:06:36,461 what do you think could happen? 143 00:06:36,463 --> 00:06:42,701 I worry, and I expect that my grandson will be hurt. 144 00:06:42,703 --> 00:06:47,672 As a father, I feel like I have failed my daughter 145 00:06:47,674 --> 00:06:50,609 because the intent was to help her, 146 00:06:50,611 --> 00:06:55,480 and it just torments me that I didn't see this coming. 147 00:06:58,385 --> 00:07:01,253 There's an older man. 148 00:07:01,255 --> 00:07:02,721 He's dead. 149 00:07:02,723 --> 00:07:06,491 He's probably in his, like, 60s or 50s, 150 00:07:06,493 --> 00:07:08,126 hates everybody. 151 00:07:08,128 --> 00:07:09,928 How would the living be affected by this? 152 00:07:09,930 --> 00:07:13,064 I'm assuming that they feel watched by him. 153 00:07:13,066 --> 00:07:15,834 He'll call your name. 154 00:07:15,836 --> 00:07:18,303 This is odd. 155 00:07:18,305 --> 00:07:24,509 It seems like he's kind of becoming part of the house. 156 00:07:24,511 --> 00:07:26,945 He's, like, in the wall. 157 00:07:26,947 --> 00:07:32,884 He's, like, losing his consciousness into the house. 158 00:07:41,695 --> 00:07:43,028 Talked to your father-in-law. 159 00:07:43,030 --> 00:07:45,130 He basically said you're the last man standing here. 160 00:07:45,132 --> 00:07:46,264 Yes. 161 00:07:46,266 --> 00:07:48,200 So I'm assuming you've had experiences. 162 00:07:48,202 --> 00:07:49,434 Oh, yeah. Okay. 163 00:07:49,436 --> 00:07:51,169 Why don't you tell me about some of them? 164 00:07:51,171 --> 00:07:53,171 I saw an apparition on the inside 165 00:07:53,173 --> 00:07:55,307 of the bathroom door of a face. 166 00:07:55,309 --> 00:07:56,541 Now, is there a way you could describe 167 00:07:56,543 --> 00:07:58,610 how it looked on the door? Yeah. 168 00:07:58,612 --> 00:08:01,279 It was almost like it was painted on there, 169 00:08:01,281 --> 00:08:04,249 almost like a face, like, kind of just smeared down. 170 00:08:04,251 --> 00:08:05,917 Now, is there a window in that restroom? 171 00:08:05,919 --> 00:08:07,319 Yes. 172 00:08:07,321 --> 00:08:09,087 So was it anything that was coming in from the outside? 173 00:08:09,089 --> 00:08:11,756 No, couldn't be. Light doesn't really pierce in. 174 00:08:11,758 --> 00:08:13,758 Anything else? Well, I was laying in bed, 175 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:16,595 and I got this really cold breeze on my face, 176 00:08:16,597 --> 00:08:18,430 and I couldn't tell where it came from, 177 00:08:18,432 --> 00:08:20,232 and all of a sudden, the temperature of the room 178 00:08:20,234 --> 00:08:23,401 seemed to drop about 20, 30 degrees. 179 00:08:23,403 --> 00:08:25,537 Was the fan on? No, fan was off. 180 00:08:25,539 --> 00:08:27,105 You have AC units? 181 00:08:27,107 --> 00:08:29,774 We have one vent over here on the floor, 182 00:08:29,776 --> 00:08:31,810 and it's not connected to the AC. 183 00:08:31,812 --> 00:08:33,945 So it sounds like your family is going through some intense, 184 00:08:33,947 --> 00:08:36,281 bizarre stuff here. Yeah. 185 00:08:36,283 --> 00:08:39,451 That's why my wife and son are not in the house no more. 186 00:08:39,453 --> 00:08:42,554 So how is Hayden doing when you do see him? 187 00:08:42,556 --> 00:08:44,856 His attitude and demeanor has changed 188 00:08:44,858 --> 00:08:46,825 ever since we got this house. 189 00:08:46,827 --> 00:08:51,062 He goes into, as we, you know, like, fits or, you know, 190 00:08:51,064 --> 00:08:54,199 stuff like that, and he shuts down on us. 191 00:08:54,201 --> 00:08:55,800 How are you dealing with that? 192 00:08:55,802 --> 00:08:57,002 It's rough. 193 00:08:57,004 --> 00:08:58,703 It's hard being away from both of them, 194 00:08:58,705 --> 00:09:00,171 but it's the safety thing. 195 00:09:00,173 --> 00:09:03,208 I feel they're safer over there. 196 00:09:03,210 --> 00:09:05,210 It sounds like you're being stubborn staying here. 197 00:09:05,212 --> 00:09:06,778 Why don't you just get the hell out? 198 00:09:06,780 --> 00:09:10,181 No matter what they do, they're not going to run me off. 199 00:09:10,183 --> 00:09:11,850 This is my house. 200 00:09:11,852 --> 00:09:14,753 I'm going to stay here, and I'm going to fight. 201 00:09:14,755 --> 00:09:16,521 Okay. 202 00:09:20,727 --> 00:09:24,062 There's another dead guy down here. 203 00:09:24,064 --> 00:09:25,430 He's young. 204 00:09:25,432 --> 00:09:27,465 He doesn't want us here. 205 00:09:27,467 --> 00:09:28,700 He's a problem. 206 00:09:28,702 --> 00:09:30,769 He can project cold. 207 00:09:30,771 --> 00:09:35,440 Living people would feel the ice right up their spine, 208 00:09:35,442 --> 00:09:39,711 right at their neck, like, the hair raising up. 209 00:09:42,482 --> 00:09:47,886 He can also push people away with his emotions. 210 00:09:47,888 --> 00:09:50,789 You feel that. 211 00:09:53,460 --> 00:09:57,295 The young dead guy also likes to come in here. 212 00:09:57,297 --> 00:10:00,532 This is uncomfortable. 213 00:10:00,534 --> 00:10:02,567 This is disgusting. 214 00:10:02,569 --> 00:10:04,402 Why are you saying that? What's he doing? 215 00:10:04,404 --> 00:10:06,171 He watches them. 216 00:10:06,173 --> 00:10:07,472 He stalks them. 217 00:10:07,474 --> 00:10:10,875 He's a voyeur. 218 00:10:10,877 --> 00:10:14,579 He is a [bleep] pervert. 219 00:10:33,008 --> 00:10:36,310 So I'm to understand that the activity got so bad 220 00:10:36,312 --> 00:10:37,745 that you moved out with your son. 221 00:10:37,747 --> 00:10:39,012 Yes. 222 00:10:39,014 --> 00:10:41,749 I left knowing that it would be the best thing for him. 223 00:10:41,751 --> 00:10:44,752 This is something that I cannot protect him from. 224 00:10:44,754 --> 00:10:45,819 Justin stayed behind. 225 00:10:45,821 --> 00:10:46,887 How is that affecting your marriage? 226 00:10:46,889 --> 00:10:48,322 It's not easy. 227 00:10:48,324 --> 00:10:49,656 The things that we've been through, 228 00:10:49,658 --> 00:10:53,427 most people would not be married anymore. 229 00:10:53,429 --> 00:10:55,396 So what experiences have you had? 230 00:10:55,398 --> 00:10:58,332 I've seen the shadow figures all over the house. 231 00:10:58,334 --> 00:10:59,566 Okay. Can you describe them? 232 00:10:59,568 --> 00:11:02,770 The ones that I've seen have been pitch black, 233 00:11:02,772 --> 00:11:07,107 shaped like a human figure. 234 00:11:07,109 --> 00:11:09,343 Have you seen them at your dad's house, too? 235 00:11:09,345 --> 00:11:10,644 Yes. 236 00:11:10,646 --> 00:11:12,713 Now, Emily, did you ever experience anything paranormal 237 00:11:12,715 --> 00:11:14,081 before you moved here? 238 00:11:14,083 --> 00:11:17,985 I've experienced the paranormal my entire life. 239 00:11:17,987 --> 00:11:20,988 Did Hayden have any problems before moving here? 240 00:11:20,990 --> 00:11:22,322 Yeah. 241 00:11:22,324 --> 00:11:25,726 Ever since he was a baby, he's always seen things, 242 00:11:25,728 --> 00:11:27,895 heard things. 243 00:11:27,897 --> 00:11:30,030 So as you know, your father called us in... 244 00:11:30,032 --> 00:11:31,265 - Yes. - ...because he was worried about 245 00:11:31,267 --> 00:11:33,100 how this house was affecting Hayden. 246 00:11:33,102 --> 00:11:35,602 Mm-hmm. How are you seeing it? 247 00:11:35,604 --> 00:11:40,073 Personality-wise, this house has just completely changed him. 248 00:11:40,075 --> 00:11:44,111 He's gotten very violent at times. 249 00:11:44,113 --> 00:11:47,080 You know, there's nothing there in his eyes. 250 00:11:47,082 --> 00:11:48,849 I mean, that's not my boy. All right. 251 00:11:48,851 --> 00:11:50,484 So what do you think is going on? 252 00:11:50,486 --> 00:11:52,719 I don't know, maybe a possession. 253 00:11:57,326 --> 00:11:59,059 I just feel like we're cursed. 254 00:12:03,499 --> 00:12:05,999 I'm seeing a living woman in here. 255 00:12:06,001 --> 00:12:07,201 Can you describe her? 256 00:12:07,203 --> 00:12:12,105 The only thing I really kind of feel is her age, 257 00:12:12,107 --> 00:12:16,877 so I'm thinking my age or possibly a little younger. 258 00:12:16,879 --> 00:12:19,079 She feels responsible, somehow. 259 00:12:19,081 --> 00:12:20,647 Responsible for what? 260 00:12:20,649 --> 00:12:23,884 I guess for her kid wigging out or some [bleep]. 261 00:12:23,886 --> 00:12:28,355 She feels like, somehow, because of her genetics, 262 00:12:28,357 --> 00:12:30,457 that her family is cursed. 263 00:12:30,459 --> 00:12:33,594 Maybe she's had encounters or experiences 264 00:12:33,596 --> 00:12:36,563 with shadow people throughout her life. 265 00:12:39,401 --> 00:12:42,236 Feels like things are following her. 266 00:12:47,476 --> 00:12:48,642 What are you experiencing here? 267 00:12:48,644 --> 00:12:51,345 I've heard several different voices. 268 00:12:51,347 --> 00:12:52,479 Okay. What are you hearing? 269 00:12:52,481 --> 00:12:56,783 Basically to cause harm to my family. 270 00:12:56,785 --> 00:12:59,953 You on any medication that may cause this kind of thing? 271 00:12:59,955 --> 00:13:01,555 No, no. 272 00:13:01,557 --> 00:13:03,023 All right. Anything else? 273 00:13:03,025 --> 00:13:06,460 I've been hit many times. Okay. So give me an example. 274 00:13:06,462 --> 00:13:08,829 Hayden and I were in the bathroom. 275 00:13:08,831 --> 00:13:12,032 I decided to open to door, and that's when I got punched, 276 00:13:12,034 --> 00:13:15,369 and the side of my face was completely swollen. 277 00:13:15,371 --> 00:13:17,170 And this has happened many times? 278 00:13:17,172 --> 00:13:20,173 I mean, if I'm in this house longer than 20 minutes, 279 00:13:20,175 --> 00:13:23,310 I just get brutally hit. 280 00:13:23,312 --> 00:13:24,711 All right. Is there anything else? 281 00:13:24,713 --> 00:13:27,781 You know, physically, I've just completely felt drained, 282 00:13:27,783 --> 00:13:30,317 just sick, nauseated, at times. 283 00:13:30,319 --> 00:13:33,787 Both Hayden and I get horrible headaches. 284 00:13:33,789 --> 00:13:36,657 How is this affecting you, emotionally, and your family? 285 00:13:36,659 --> 00:13:38,792 It's just, like, at times, I just want to give up. 286 00:13:41,196 --> 00:13:43,797 This is a hell house. 287 00:13:51,206 --> 00:13:54,608 This young dead guy really messes with the living here. 288 00:13:57,346 --> 00:14:01,515 He causes the bad headaches here. 289 00:14:01,517 --> 00:14:04,117 He likes to be right on females. 290 00:14:04,119 --> 00:14:07,688 They would feel his breathing on their necks, 291 00:14:07,690 --> 00:14:12,659 so I think women would feel uncomfortable with his presence. 292 00:14:12,661 --> 00:14:16,597 I think the women would hear their names being called. 293 00:14:16,599 --> 00:14:20,233 He's definitely a predator. 294 00:14:25,341 --> 00:14:26,740 He can travel. 295 00:14:26,742 --> 00:14:29,710 He can leave with the women. 296 00:14:29,712 --> 00:14:31,311 This is weird. 297 00:14:31,313 --> 00:14:33,981 There's dark stuff going on. 298 00:14:33,983 --> 00:14:36,984 I keep hearing, "Magic, magic, magic," 299 00:14:36,986 --> 00:14:40,921 and a doorway has been opened, 300 00:14:40,923 --> 00:14:44,491 and shadow figures are coming in from another dimension. 301 00:14:46,562 --> 00:14:48,228 That's not a good sign. 302 00:14:54,570 --> 00:14:55,602 Hayden, how old are you? 303 00:14:55,604 --> 00:14:56,770 Six. 304 00:14:56,772 --> 00:14:58,605 You got some scary things happening here? 305 00:14:58,607 --> 00:14:59,740 Mm-hmm. 306 00:14:59,742 --> 00:15:01,475 So, Hayden, what are you seeing in the house? 307 00:15:01,477 --> 00:15:02,809 I see shadow people... Okay. 308 00:15:02,811 --> 00:15:03,810 ...dark ones. 309 00:15:03,812 --> 00:15:06,146 Dark ones? 310 00:15:06,148 --> 00:15:08,682 Yeah. They look at me. 311 00:15:08,684 --> 00:15:11,351 Do you see them a lot? Yeah. 312 00:15:11,353 --> 00:15:13,053 Do they do anything when you're with them? 313 00:15:13,055 --> 00:15:14,821 They give me headaches. 314 00:15:14,823 --> 00:15:17,758 Okay. Does it hurt bad? Yeah. 315 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:19,059 Do they talk to you at all? 316 00:15:19,061 --> 00:15:20,127 Yeah. 317 00:15:20,129 --> 00:15:23,930 What do they say? 318 00:15:23,932 --> 00:15:27,367 It sounds like you don't like to talk about it. Yeah. 319 00:15:27,369 --> 00:15:30,003 But they scare you. Mm-hmm. 320 00:15:30,005 --> 00:15:32,406 We're going to try to get rid of those shadow people, okay? Yeah. 321 00:15:32,408 --> 00:15:35,008 You want us to get rid of them. Don't you? Mm-hmm. 322 00:15:35,010 --> 00:15:36,843 Yeah. Yeah. 323 00:15:36,845 --> 00:15:38,912 Okay. 324 00:15:41,850 --> 00:15:44,851 This is a bad room, really bad. 325 00:15:44,853 --> 00:15:47,220 How? What do you mean? 326 00:15:47,222 --> 00:15:52,059 There's this gaping hole in the closet. 327 00:15:54,096 --> 00:15:58,131 It's like a hole to where the shadow people come from. 328 00:15:58,133 --> 00:16:01,068 It's only shadow people coming out of there, 329 00:16:01,070 --> 00:16:06,640 and there's, like, arms and hands coming out. 330 00:16:06,642 --> 00:16:08,508 I've never seen this before. 331 00:16:08,510 --> 00:16:11,411 They'll grab your legs and your feet, 332 00:16:11,413 --> 00:16:14,281 your hands, your wrists. 333 00:16:14,283 --> 00:16:17,651 This is bad and bad. 334 00:16:17,653 --> 00:16:19,653 I don't know. I don't feel good in here. 335 00:16:19,655 --> 00:16:24,091 I feel horribly ill, like I'm going to puke. 336 00:16:24,093 --> 00:16:25,859 Oh... 337 00:16:31,300 --> 00:16:33,800 What kind of danger do these shadow people pose? 338 00:16:33,802 --> 00:16:35,969 Living people, they could take them in there, you know? 339 00:16:35,971 --> 00:16:37,871 They would just, like, disappear. 340 00:16:37,873 --> 00:16:42,609 Shadow people, usually, they focus on children and elderly, 341 00:16:42,611 --> 00:16:44,978 and they can cause them to die. 342 00:16:59,835 --> 00:17:01,035 Digging into the property deeds, 343 00:17:01,037 --> 00:17:03,237 one family stood out to me, the Morgans. 344 00:17:03,239 --> 00:17:05,572 Now, they were here for 65 years, 345 00:17:05,574 --> 00:17:08,008 so I expected there to be some deaths, 346 00:17:08,010 --> 00:17:10,544 but according to the genealogist I'm headed to meet, 347 00:17:10,546 --> 00:17:13,480 these people were dropping like flies. 348 00:17:19,989 --> 00:17:21,822 So, Luana, I appreciate you meeting with me. 349 00:17:21,824 --> 00:17:23,223 Why'd you want to meet here? 350 00:17:23,225 --> 00:17:25,292 Well, the people that owned the property before your client, 351 00:17:25,294 --> 00:17:27,728 the Morgan family, had a barn like this one. 352 00:17:27,730 --> 00:17:30,297 Okay. They got here about 1892. 353 00:17:30,299 --> 00:17:32,433 They were there until about the 1950s. 354 00:17:32,435 --> 00:17:33,734 Now, you mentioned on the phone that they suffered 355 00:17:33,736 --> 00:17:35,169 just about every kind of death. 356 00:17:35,171 --> 00:17:38,572 Well, it all revolves around this woman, Martha Morgan. 357 00:17:38,574 --> 00:17:40,240 She was born on the property 358 00:17:40,242 --> 00:17:41,875 and lived there most of her life. 359 00:17:41,877 --> 00:17:43,277 Her father gave her property 360 00:17:43,279 --> 00:17:45,679 when she reached adulthood to build a home of her own, 361 00:17:45,681 --> 00:17:48,082 and that's when the tragedies really began. 362 00:17:48,084 --> 00:17:50,451 Did she live in the same house as my clients? 363 00:17:50,453 --> 00:17:52,653 No. Okay. So let's start with the first one. 364 00:17:52,655 --> 00:17:54,221 The first one would be her niece. 365 00:17:54,223 --> 00:17:58,158 Mary is only 17 days old when she caught bronchitis 366 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:00,127 and suffered severe convulsions, 367 00:18:00,129 --> 00:18:01,895 and she died in the family home. 368 00:18:01,897 --> 00:18:03,230 All right. 369 00:18:03,232 --> 00:18:06,433 So this kind of a death at that time, not uncommon. 370 00:18:06,435 --> 00:18:09,370 No, it's not, but the next one is. 371 00:18:09,372 --> 00:18:13,474 In 1928, Martha's husband, Albert, was killed by a train. 372 00:18:13,476 --> 00:18:15,876 He was crossing the tracks and was T-boned 373 00:18:15,878 --> 00:18:17,244 by a speeding freight train. 374 00:18:17,246 --> 00:18:20,514 It carried him almost a quarter of a mile down the tracks, 375 00:18:20,516 --> 00:18:22,716 and he was only 32 years old. 376 00:18:22,718 --> 00:18:24,051 That's tragic. 377 00:18:24,053 --> 00:18:25,953 Believe it or not, there was another accident 378 00:18:25,955 --> 00:18:27,287 involving a train. 379 00:18:27,289 --> 00:18:29,990 Martha's cousin, Norma, was on her way home from a dance 380 00:18:29,992 --> 00:18:31,392 with her boyfriend, Rex. 381 00:18:31,394 --> 00:18:33,861 Rex saw a train approaching, thought he could make it, 382 00:18:33,863 --> 00:18:35,996 but he slammed on his brakes at the last minute, 383 00:18:35,998 --> 00:18:38,298 and they were hit by the train and killed instantly. 384 00:18:38,300 --> 00:18:39,800 Geez. 385 00:18:39,802 --> 00:18:43,537 And here's a picture of the two victims and their mangled car. 386 00:18:43,539 --> 00:18:44,905 So that's two more deaths, 387 00:18:44,907 --> 00:18:46,740 and then these aren't just normal deaths, either. 388 00:18:46,742 --> 00:18:47,975 There's still more. 389 00:18:47,977 --> 00:18:50,477 Her mother dies the year after that train accident 390 00:18:50,479 --> 00:18:52,613 of stomach cancer in the family home. 391 00:18:52,615 --> 00:18:54,515 Okay. And what about the father? 392 00:18:54,517 --> 00:18:56,850 Her dad dies 2 years later of a heart attack. 393 00:18:56,852 --> 00:18:58,986 I mean, it sounds like everybody dropped dead around her. 394 00:18:58,988 --> 00:19:01,655 That's right. 395 00:19:04,593 --> 00:19:08,195 There's a lot of loss and sadness in this room. 396 00:19:08,197 --> 00:19:11,131 I'm hearing crying and crying and crying. 397 00:19:11,133 --> 00:19:13,033 It's a woman. 398 00:19:13,035 --> 00:19:15,002 She's older, 399 00:19:15,004 --> 00:19:20,707 I guess, like, 60s or 70s, even. 400 00:19:20,709 --> 00:19:23,177 And do you get anything on her connection to the property? 401 00:19:23,179 --> 00:19:25,179 I think she lived here. 402 00:19:25,181 --> 00:19:28,482 Somebody calling her Grandma. 403 00:19:28,484 --> 00:19:30,984 This woman lost everything. 404 00:19:30,986 --> 00:19:33,387 Now I'm dizzy and freaked out. 405 00:19:36,225 --> 00:19:39,092 So far, I have a family being torn apart 406 00:19:39,094 --> 00:19:41,361 by the activity in their home on a property 407 00:19:41,363 --> 00:19:44,398 that has seen at least six tragic deaths, 408 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:47,534 but I want to see if there's anything else. 409 00:19:47,536 --> 00:19:50,103 Turns out one of Martha Morgan's cousins 410 00:19:50,105 --> 00:19:53,073 committed the bloodiest murder in Layton's history, 411 00:19:53,075 --> 00:19:54,508 and it happened just down the road 412 00:19:54,510 --> 00:19:56,076 from my clients' property. 413 00:19:58,714 --> 00:20:02,182 Anytime there's a homicide like this, I got to look into it. 414 00:20:02,184 --> 00:20:03,717 I'm heading over to meet with a former cop 415 00:20:03,719 --> 00:20:05,819 who's going to tell me exactly what happened. 416 00:20:13,395 --> 00:20:15,162 So, Steve, this homicide I came across, 417 00:20:15,164 --> 00:20:16,497 what do we know about the perp? 418 00:20:16,499 --> 00:20:19,967 The killer was a guy by the name of Delbert Green. 419 00:20:19,969 --> 00:20:23,437 Here's Delbert Green's mugshot. 420 00:20:23,439 --> 00:20:26,473 And this is Martha Morgan's cousin by marriage? Right. 421 00:20:26,475 --> 00:20:29,076 So what do we know about this guy, Green's background? 422 00:20:29,078 --> 00:20:30,310 He was a violent guy. 423 00:20:30,312 --> 00:20:31,645 He was a jealous guy. 424 00:20:31,647 --> 00:20:34,748 He was a person who could not control his emotions. 425 00:20:34,750 --> 00:20:37,284 He'd already spent time in prison for attempting 426 00:20:37,286 --> 00:20:39,820 to kill a guy who was flirting with his wife, 427 00:20:39,822 --> 00:20:41,154 Gladys. Okay. 428 00:20:41,156 --> 00:20:42,856 So take me to the night of the homicide. 429 00:20:42,858 --> 00:20:45,459 Well, on January 4, 1930, 430 00:20:45,461 --> 00:20:48,328 Delbert, his wife, Gladys, and their child 431 00:20:48,330 --> 00:20:50,330 were at their appointment in Ogden. 432 00:20:50,332 --> 00:20:53,033 They got into an argument. He hit her. 433 00:20:53,035 --> 00:20:56,336 She took the 4-month-old baby over to her stepfather's house, 434 00:20:56,338 --> 00:20:59,406 which is just a few doors down from your clients' property. 435 00:20:59,408 --> 00:21:03,977 So about midnight, Delbert shows up at the stepfather's house. 436 00:21:03,979 --> 00:21:05,279 He's upset. 437 00:21:05,281 --> 00:21:06,580 He's got a gun. 438 00:21:06,582 --> 00:21:10,751 The stepfather, James, and he get into a big argument, 439 00:21:10,753 --> 00:21:12,953 and Delbert shoots him. 440 00:21:12,955 --> 00:21:15,489 That's his death certificate. 441 00:21:15,491 --> 00:21:18,292 So after Delbert shoots James, he goes into the kitchen, 442 00:21:18,294 --> 00:21:22,162 and there he shoots his wife, Gladys, and her mother, Lola. 443 00:21:22,164 --> 00:21:24,097 Both of the women died. 444 00:21:24,099 --> 00:21:28,335 There's their death certificates. 445 00:21:28,337 --> 00:21:29,970 So what happened to the baby? 446 00:21:29,972 --> 00:21:31,605 Does he just leave it alone in the house? 447 00:21:31,607 --> 00:21:33,941 Yeah. He flees the scene. 448 00:21:33,943 --> 00:21:35,842 A manhunt ensues. 449 00:21:35,844 --> 00:21:37,210 They search the whole neighborhood, 450 00:21:37,212 --> 00:21:39,813 including where your client lives. 451 00:21:39,815 --> 00:21:42,082 So he decides he's going to kill himself. 452 00:21:42,084 --> 00:21:44,651 He's got one bullet left. 453 00:21:44,653 --> 00:21:46,420 He puts it to his head, pulls the trigger. 454 00:21:46,422 --> 00:21:48,488 It jams. Okay. 455 00:21:48,490 --> 00:21:49,623 Five hours later, 456 00:21:49,625 --> 00:21:51,825 Ogden detectives show up and arrest him. 457 00:21:51,827 --> 00:21:53,994 It's going to be a pretty easy conviction. 458 00:21:53,996 --> 00:21:56,296 His lawyer went for an insanity plea. 459 00:21:56,298 --> 00:21:59,299 The psychiatrist said, "He's crazy." 460 00:21:59,301 --> 00:22:00,701 It didn't help. 461 00:22:00,703 --> 00:22:02,469 After 6 years of appeals, 462 00:22:02,471 --> 00:22:04,471 they executed him by firing squad 463 00:22:04,473 --> 00:22:07,407 on July 10, 1936. 464 00:22:07,409 --> 00:22:09,676 He was only 28 years old. 465 00:22:14,416 --> 00:22:16,950 I think the young dead guy and the old man trapped 466 00:22:16,952 --> 00:22:19,987 in the wall did not like each other. 467 00:22:19,989 --> 00:22:21,555 You have any idea what connection they might have 468 00:22:21,557 --> 00:22:22,956 to the properties? 469 00:22:22,958 --> 00:22:26,727 The older man, I believe, owned the house at some point. 470 00:22:26,729 --> 00:22:29,296 The younger guy, I don't know 471 00:22:29,298 --> 00:22:31,398 what his connection is, honestly. 472 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:33,967 There's some relationship between these two. 473 00:22:33,969 --> 00:22:35,502 I can't pin it, though. 474 00:22:35,504 --> 00:22:36,903 Something happened. 475 00:22:36,905 --> 00:22:41,575 They had some kind of altercation, 476 00:22:41,577 --> 00:22:43,610 an angry fight. 477 00:22:43,612 --> 00:22:45,245 I am hearing a gunshot. 478 00:22:45,247 --> 00:22:46,279 Did they kill each other? 479 00:22:46,281 --> 00:22:48,115 Did one kill one and then kill himself? 480 00:22:48,117 --> 00:22:50,083 I don't know because I could swear 481 00:22:50,085 --> 00:22:53,820 that younger guy killed himself. 482 00:22:53,822 --> 00:22:56,823 He died later. 483 00:22:56,825 --> 00:23:01,294 He's sick, mentally sick, I think. 484 00:23:03,966 --> 00:23:05,699 This is, like, painful. 485 00:23:14,176 --> 00:23:15,742 If you need us to investigate 486 00:23:15,744 --> 00:23:17,511 unexplained activity in your home, 487 00:23:17,513 --> 00:23:20,747 go to the "Dead Files" page at travelchannel.com. 488 00:23:20,749 --> 00:23:22,315 Click on "Help Me, Dead Files" to submit your story, 489 00:23:22,317 --> 00:23:23,417 and we'll help if we can. 490 00:23:31,060 --> 00:23:33,194 Another thing caught my eye in research. 491 00:23:33,196 --> 00:23:36,230 The property's first owner was a pretty hardcore Mormon. 492 00:23:36,232 --> 00:23:37,998 Now, this guy was a polygamist, 493 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,634 a member of a militia and an ex-con. 494 00:23:40,636 --> 00:23:42,069 I'm on my way to meet a historian 495 00:23:42,071 --> 00:23:44,471 who's looking into this guy for me. 496 00:23:51,347 --> 00:23:52,546 So, Rob, thanks for meeting me, again. 497 00:23:52,548 --> 00:23:53,781 I appreciate that. 498 00:23:53,783 --> 00:23:54,848 What do we know about the man 499 00:23:54,850 --> 00:23:56,217 that first lived on my clients' property? 500 00:23:56,219 --> 00:23:58,485 His name is John Richard Barnes. 501 00:23:58,487 --> 00:24:00,854 He was born in England in 1833, 502 00:24:00,856 --> 00:24:04,124 so he immigrated to the United States in 1853 503 00:24:04,126 --> 00:24:05,192 with his family. 504 00:24:05,194 --> 00:24:07,795 When does he wind up on my clients' property? 505 00:24:07,797 --> 00:24:09,797 Mid-1850s. 506 00:24:09,799 --> 00:24:11,232 So you said he was part of a militia. 507 00:24:11,234 --> 00:24:13,033 What did you find out about him? 508 00:24:13,035 --> 00:24:15,736 The U.S. Government wanted to assert its authority 509 00:24:15,738 --> 00:24:17,705 on this new territory, 510 00:24:17,707 --> 00:24:19,773 and Native Americans 511 00:24:19,775 --> 00:24:21,942 were suffering from the encroachment 512 00:24:21,944 --> 00:24:23,944 of Europeans on their land. 513 00:24:23,946 --> 00:24:25,145 And the Mormons were right in the middle. 514 00:24:25,147 --> 00:24:27,715 Mormons were right in the middle of it. 515 00:24:31,287 --> 00:24:34,521 I see a male, Native American. 516 00:24:34,523 --> 00:24:36,223 He's very specific-looking. 517 00:24:36,225 --> 00:24:39,727 He has long hair, and he has black eyes, 518 00:24:39,729 --> 00:24:43,564 and he's really, really angry. 519 00:24:43,566 --> 00:24:45,899 He's barely human anymore. 520 00:24:45,901 --> 00:24:47,568 The living people are seeing this, 521 00:24:47,570 --> 00:24:51,005 and they've had experiences with this thing. 522 00:24:53,609 --> 00:24:54,575 Now, Rob, you mentioned on the phone 523 00:24:54,577 --> 00:24:55,576 this guy was a polygamist. 524 00:24:55,578 --> 00:24:57,411 Now, did he get in trouble for that? 525 00:24:57,413 --> 00:24:58,545 He did. 526 00:24:58,547 --> 00:25:00,314 At one point, he had three wives altogether. 527 00:25:00,316 --> 00:25:03,284 He was arrested for polygamy. 528 00:25:03,286 --> 00:25:08,455 He was sentenced to 3 months in prison and given a $350 fine. 529 00:25:08,457 --> 00:25:12,259 Then he was pardoned by President Grover Cleveland. 530 00:25:12,261 --> 00:25:15,396 Here's an article on it. All right. So let me get this straight. 531 00:25:15,398 --> 00:25:17,331 The president pardoned this guy. 532 00:25:17,333 --> 00:25:18,599 He did. All right. 533 00:25:18,601 --> 00:25:20,501 So now, he did his time, got his pardon. 534 00:25:20,503 --> 00:25:22,102 How did it work out for him with his family? 535 00:25:22,104 --> 00:25:25,306 His first wife, Emily, she died at the age of 40 536 00:25:25,308 --> 00:25:28,108 due to complications from childbirth. 537 00:25:28,110 --> 00:25:30,110 She wasn't even the only member of the family 538 00:25:30,112 --> 00:25:31,912 who died of childbirth. 539 00:25:31,914 --> 00:25:35,249 In 1881, his daughter, Mary, gave birth to a baby boy. 540 00:25:35,251 --> 00:25:37,051 Okay. And shortly after the birth, 541 00:25:37,053 --> 00:25:39,720 she died at the age of 23 years old. 542 00:25:39,722 --> 00:25:42,022 That's sad. It was. 543 00:25:48,164 --> 00:25:50,531 I saw several disturbing things on my walk, 544 00:25:50,533 --> 00:25:52,766 but two really stood out -- 545 00:25:52,768 --> 00:25:55,636 first, the dead man being absorbed by the house. 546 00:25:55,638 --> 00:25:57,738 I was in a basement. 547 00:25:57,740 --> 00:26:04,044 I saw a male who was sinking into the wall. 548 00:26:04,046 --> 00:26:06,880 This whole part of his head was out, 549 00:26:06,882 --> 00:26:10,651 and then I could see the soles of his shoes. 550 00:26:10,653 --> 00:26:12,786 Next, I described the bedroom closet, 551 00:26:12,788 --> 00:26:14,888 which was some kind of portal. 552 00:26:14,890 --> 00:26:18,559 It was in a small bedroom, 553 00:26:18,561 --> 00:26:21,862 and then the back of the closet was very important 554 00:26:21,864 --> 00:26:26,667 because I saw a lot of hands coming out. 555 00:26:26,669 --> 00:26:31,505 It was, like, sucking you in. 556 00:26:31,507 --> 00:26:34,475 Amy, is this what you saw? 557 00:26:34,477 --> 00:26:35,676 Yes. 558 00:26:54,463 --> 00:26:57,364 Now that Amy and I have completed our investigations, 559 00:26:57,366 --> 00:26:59,466 we're ready to reveal our findings to each other 560 00:26:59,468 --> 00:27:02,436 and our clients for the first time. 561 00:27:02,438 --> 00:27:04,571 Amy, I'd like you to meet Craig and his daughter, Emily. 562 00:27:04,573 --> 00:27:06,373 Craig here bought this house for Emily 563 00:27:06,375 --> 00:27:08,875 and her family 6 months ago. 564 00:27:08,877 --> 00:27:12,879 This is her husband, Justin, and their son, Hayden, who's 6. 565 00:27:12,881 --> 00:27:14,081 Hayden's getting the worst of it, 566 00:27:14,083 --> 00:27:15,882 and the activity is so bad here, 567 00:27:15,884 --> 00:27:17,184 Emily grabbed him and moved in 568 00:27:17,186 --> 00:27:19,386 with her dad about 5 months ago. 569 00:27:19,388 --> 00:27:20,821 Justin decided to stay. 570 00:27:20,823 --> 00:27:22,189 He's not leaving. 571 00:27:22,191 --> 00:27:24,157 Activity's ripping the family apart, and Craig thinks, 572 00:27:24,159 --> 00:27:25,525 if we don't come up with a solution, 573 00:27:25,527 --> 00:27:27,961 somebody's going to get seriously hurt. 574 00:27:27,963 --> 00:27:30,163 So now that Amy knows a little bit about you guys, 575 00:27:30,165 --> 00:27:32,232 I'm going to ask her to describe her walk. 576 00:27:34,603 --> 00:27:36,870 The interesting thing about this walk was 577 00:27:36,872 --> 00:27:40,173 that I was getting quite a bit of information 578 00:27:40,175 --> 00:27:44,511 on the living people as well as the dead. 579 00:27:44,513 --> 00:27:46,913 When I was in the kitchen, 580 00:27:46,915 --> 00:27:51,418 I encountered a living woman's energy. 581 00:27:51,420 --> 00:27:56,156 I placed her at approximately my age or slightly younger, 582 00:27:56,158 --> 00:27:58,759 seemed extremely upset and desperate 583 00:27:58,761 --> 00:28:01,862 because she's had experiences her whole life, 584 00:28:01,864 --> 00:28:05,866 and the thing was was that she had this underlying thought 585 00:28:05,868 --> 00:28:08,168 that she was somehow to blame 586 00:28:08,170 --> 00:28:11,238 for these experiences manifesting. 587 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,974 She feels responsible 588 00:28:13,976 --> 00:28:17,244 for her kids having freak-outs, 589 00:28:17,246 --> 00:28:19,980 so she kind of feels like because it runs her family, 590 00:28:19,982 --> 00:28:23,250 she's kind of at the root of the problem. 591 00:28:27,823 --> 00:28:29,489 You okay? 592 00:28:32,194 --> 00:28:33,393 When you're able to, 593 00:28:33,395 --> 00:28:35,495 just explain to Amy how you're feeling. 594 00:28:35,497 --> 00:28:37,331 I do blame myself. 595 00:28:37,333 --> 00:28:39,299 I worry about Hayden. I'm his mom. 596 00:28:39,301 --> 00:28:41,735 I'm supposed to protect him, and I can't. 597 00:28:44,273 --> 00:28:46,139 I knew there was something in here 598 00:28:46,141 --> 00:28:48,108 before my parents bought the house. 599 00:28:48,110 --> 00:28:50,944 I didn't think it would be this bad. 600 00:28:50,946 --> 00:28:54,715 If I had known, I would have reacted much earlier. 601 00:28:54,717 --> 00:28:56,216 This is horrible. 602 00:28:59,054 --> 00:29:00,887 So when I went into the basement, 603 00:29:00,889 --> 00:29:04,624 I saw two dead males. 604 00:29:04,626 --> 00:29:08,295 The first male, who's in his 50s or 60s, 605 00:29:08,297 --> 00:29:11,698 he may have owned this property at one time. 606 00:29:11,700 --> 00:29:15,102 The second guy was younger, 30s or 40s, 607 00:29:15,104 --> 00:29:17,371 and I couldn't get how exactly 608 00:29:17,373 --> 00:29:19,806 he was connected to the property, 609 00:29:19,808 --> 00:29:23,210 but he bothered me a great deal. 610 00:29:23,212 --> 00:29:29,983 I got that he had some severe mental issues when he was alive. 611 00:29:29,985 --> 00:29:33,286 I knew that there was some kind of a relationship 612 00:29:33,288 --> 00:29:34,821 between these two men, 613 00:29:34,823 --> 00:29:38,225 but I didn't understand what kind of a relationship. 614 00:29:38,227 --> 00:29:42,696 Whatever it was, though, there was a lot of anger there, 615 00:29:42,698 --> 00:29:46,066 and I saw them fighting and yelling. 616 00:29:46,068 --> 00:29:47,901 I heard the sound of a gunshot, 617 00:29:47,903 --> 00:29:51,204 and I wasn't sure which male it was coming from, 618 00:29:51,206 --> 00:29:54,975 but I did get the overwhelming feeling of death, 619 00:29:54,977 --> 00:29:56,743 and I think that one died first, 620 00:29:56,745 --> 00:29:58,612 and then the other one died later. 621 00:29:58,614 --> 00:30:03,383 Felt like the younger one committed suicide. 622 00:30:03,385 --> 00:30:05,719 Pretty sure I know what she's talking about. 623 00:30:05,721 --> 00:30:07,287 There was a murder here in the 1930s 624 00:30:07,289 --> 00:30:09,990 that had direct ties to the owners of this property. 625 00:30:09,992 --> 00:30:12,359 A woman named Martha Morgan used to own this land, 626 00:30:12,361 --> 00:30:15,729 and she had a cousin through marriage named Delbert Green. 627 00:30:15,731 --> 00:30:17,397 Apparently, this guy was a real nutjob. 628 00:30:17,399 --> 00:30:20,834 On January 4, 1930, Delbert and his wife, Gladys, 629 00:30:20,836 --> 00:30:21,768 got into a huge fight. 630 00:30:21,770 --> 00:30:23,336 Now, Delbert got violent with her. 631 00:30:23,338 --> 00:30:25,505 Gladys told him she wanted a divorce, 632 00:30:25,507 --> 00:30:27,808 took their 4-month-old kid and took off. 633 00:30:27,810 --> 00:30:29,910 She came right down the block from this house. 634 00:30:29,912 --> 00:30:33,380 Delbert grabbed the pistol and tracked Gladys down here. 635 00:30:33,382 --> 00:30:35,182 When he arrived, he got into a huge argument 636 00:30:35,184 --> 00:30:37,050 with Gladys' stepfather, James. 637 00:30:37,052 --> 00:30:39,186 Delbert pulled out a gun and shot James, 638 00:30:39,188 --> 00:30:40,454 and he dropped dead. 639 00:30:40,456 --> 00:30:42,022 He was 40 years old. 640 00:30:42,024 --> 00:30:44,057 James is dead, but Delbert's not finished yet. 641 00:30:44,059 --> 00:30:45,392 He's just getting started. 642 00:30:45,394 --> 00:30:47,527 Matter of fact, he ends up killing his wife, Gladys, 643 00:30:47,529 --> 00:30:49,996 and her mother, Lola, then he fled. 644 00:30:49,998 --> 00:30:51,731 Huge manhunt for this guy. 645 00:30:51,733 --> 00:30:53,800 You said you pick up on a possible suicide. 646 00:30:53,802 --> 00:30:55,001 Oh, yeah. 647 00:30:55,003 --> 00:30:56,403 So Delbert knows he's going to get caught, 648 00:30:56,405 --> 00:30:59,539 so he tried killing himself, but he failed. 649 00:30:59,541 --> 00:31:01,875 Cops show up, obviously, and they arrest him. 650 00:31:01,877 --> 00:31:04,010 Now, you said the guy had mental issues, right? 651 00:31:04,012 --> 00:31:05,745 Delbert pled insanity, and matter of fact, 652 00:31:05,747 --> 00:31:07,981 the psychiatrist gave a diagnosis to the court, 653 00:31:07,983 --> 00:31:09,349 saying he was crazy, 654 00:31:09,351 --> 00:31:11,251 but they wound up killing him anyway. 655 00:31:11,253 --> 00:31:15,689 Delbert was executed by a firing squad on July 10th, 1936. 656 00:31:15,691 --> 00:31:17,958 He was 28 years old. 657 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,961 I managed to track down a photo of Delbert's mugshot. 658 00:31:23,632 --> 00:31:25,131 Now, do you think Delbert could be the younger guy 659 00:31:25,133 --> 00:31:26,466 you saw down in the basement? 660 00:31:26,468 --> 00:31:28,802 Yes. 661 00:31:28,804 --> 00:31:31,771 Now, do these two guys in the basement affect the living? 662 00:31:31,773 --> 00:31:36,176 Yes, but the experiences are mainly coming 663 00:31:36,178 --> 00:31:37,477 from this younger male, 664 00:31:37,479 --> 00:31:39,112 so he'll literally touch you, 665 00:31:39,114 --> 00:31:41,548 and your whole, like, say, your shoulder 666 00:31:41,550 --> 00:31:46,953 just goes, like, almost numb from the cold he's projecting, 667 00:31:46,955 --> 00:31:50,657 and he's got a real problem with women. 668 00:31:50,659 --> 00:31:54,461 Also, he's very good at projecting his emotions. 669 00:31:54,463 --> 00:31:55,962 He's like, "Get out of here." 670 00:31:55,964 --> 00:31:58,098 He just feels it and pushes it out, 671 00:31:58,100 --> 00:32:02,202 and you will feel that "Get out." 672 00:32:02,204 --> 00:32:04,504 He's a very, very sick person. 673 00:32:04,506 --> 00:32:07,774 Some stuff you hit on is a lot of what they're experiencing. 674 00:32:07,776 --> 00:32:09,876 Now, you said he has a problem with women. 675 00:32:09,878 --> 00:32:10,977 Do me a favor. 676 00:32:10,979 --> 00:32:12,546 Tell Amy what happens to you in here. 677 00:32:12,548 --> 00:32:15,549 I mean, if I'm in this house longer than 20 minutes, 678 00:32:15,551 --> 00:32:18,385 I get brutally hit. 679 00:32:18,387 --> 00:32:21,187 Amy, you said this guy can also project cold. 680 00:32:21,189 --> 00:32:22,756 Convey the story that Justin had told me. 681 00:32:22,758 --> 00:32:23,823 I'm sure you know. 682 00:32:23,825 --> 00:32:25,825 Justin was laying in bed one night, 683 00:32:25,827 --> 00:32:29,829 and he could feel, like, this cold breath, 684 00:32:29,831 --> 00:32:32,132 and all of a sudden, his whole body got cold. 685 00:32:32,134 --> 00:32:35,435 What kind of danger is Justin in, that he's here by himself? 686 00:32:35,437 --> 00:32:36,903 Is he healthy? 687 00:32:36,905 --> 00:32:40,707 Yeah, but he's depressed, I mean, for multiple reasons, 688 00:32:40,709 --> 00:32:43,643 I mean, with the situation we're in. 689 00:32:43,645 --> 00:32:45,912 Amy, you said this guy could project emotions. 690 00:32:45,914 --> 00:32:47,948 Do you think he's making Justin depressed? 691 00:32:47,950 --> 00:32:49,449 Yes. 692 00:32:49,451 --> 00:32:51,585 He could absolutely be picking up on that. 693 00:32:53,722 --> 00:32:56,556 I think you could also see this young guy, 694 00:32:56,558 --> 00:33:00,660 more than likely, as, like, a shadowy figure. 695 00:33:00,662 --> 00:33:03,797 He also can leave the home. 696 00:33:03,799 --> 00:33:05,732 Did both of them leave? 697 00:33:05,734 --> 00:33:08,301 No, just the younger male. 698 00:33:08,303 --> 00:33:10,003 Now, you told me, Craig, that you see 699 00:33:10,005 --> 00:33:11,738 shadow figures at your house. 700 00:33:11,740 --> 00:33:14,407 All the time, all the time. 701 00:33:14,409 --> 00:33:18,712 This large shadow thing stands in the doorway, 702 00:33:18,714 --> 00:33:23,516 and we just cannot get away being alone. 703 00:33:23,518 --> 00:33:24,918 So they have a lot of these experiences 704 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:26,086 from the younger guy. 705 00:33:26,088 --> 00:33:27,454 Would they have any from the older guy? 706 00:33:27,456 --> 00:33:31,491 He has a really hard time interacting with living people. 707 00:33:31,493 --> 00:33:37,497 He is currently in the process of being absorbed by the wall, 708 00:33:37,499 --> 00:33:39,799 so he's kind of stuck down there, 709 00:33:39,801 --> 00:33:41,668 and he's, you know, 710 00:33:41,670 --> 00:33:43,536 essentially becoming part of the house 711 00:33:43,538 --> 00:33:47,140 and losing his consciousness to the house. 712 00:33:47,142 --> 00:33:49,409 And I did have a sketch done. 713 00:33:53,682 --> 00:33:56,116 Craig, now, this is going to blow your mind 714 00:33:56,118 --> 00:33:57,083 after what you told me. 715 00:33:59,821 --> 00:34:01,254 Oh, my God. 716 00:34:01,256 --> 00:34:03,390 This is hideous. 717 00:34:07,462 --> 00:34:10,563 My grandson tells us, in that basement, 718 00:34:10,565 --> 00:34:13,133 that there is a person or a thing, 719 00:34:13,135 --> 00:34:16,302 puts his arms like this and falls back into the wall. 720 00:34:19,675 --> 00:34:21,541 So how come this guy's stuck in the wall in the basement? 721 00:34:21,543 --> 00:34:26,913 This is not what he wants to be having happen to him. 722 00:34:26,915 --> 00:34:31,985 He's being pulled into the wall by shadow people. 723 00:34:31,987 --> 00:34:33,086 All right. So now, we got shadow people. 724 00:34:33,088 --> 00:34:34,454 What's the story with them? 725 00:34:34,456 --> 00:34:37,624 The house is being, like, overrun with shadow people. 726 00:34:39,628 --> 00:34:40,960 Here's what's happening. 727 00:34:40,962 --> 00:34:43,430 In the green room... 728 00:34:43,432 --> 00:34:44,898 That's Hayden's room. 729 00:34:44,900 --> 00:34:48,635 ...a doorway was opened to their dimension, 730 00:34:48,637 --> 00:34:51,037 which I have never seen before 731 00:34:51,039 --> 00:34:53,673 and, frankly, terrifies me. 732 00:34:53,675 --> 00:34:56,976 They'll grab your legs and your feet, 733 00:34:56,978 --> 00:34:59,813 your hands, your wrists. 734 00:34:59,815 --> 00:35:02,682 This is bad and bad. 735 00:35:02,684 --> 00:35:07,620 I got paranoid that any living person that's in that room 736 00:35:07,622 --> 00:35:10,690 could potentially be dragged, physically, 737 00:35:10,692 --> 00:35:14,094 into the closet by these things. 738 00:35:14,096 --> 00:35:19,232 He has had a shadow person crawl up underneath his blanket, 739 00:35:19,234 --> 00:35:22,302 saying he wants to be his friend. 740 00:35:22,304 --> 00:35:25,839 Obviously, I told him, "No, don't talk to them." 741 00:35:25,841 --> 00:35:28,675 Mm-hmm. "They're not your friend." 742 00:35:28,677 --> 00:35:31,377 I really hated being in that room, 743 00:35:31,379 --> 00:35:33,513 and I was only in there for 5 minutes, 744 00:35:33,515 --> 00:35:35,181 and it made me sick, 745 00:35:35,183 --> 00:35:40,620 and I've never seen a doorway like that before. 746 00:35:40,622 --> 00:35:45,325 And the shadow people are coming and going all the time, 747 00:35:45,327 --> 00:35:47,660 and they take children. 748 00:35:47,662 --> 00:35:51,264 They can just come and, like, kidnap Hayden, like, 749 00:35:51,266 --> 00:35:55,535 just physically take him into their dimension. 750 00:35:55,537 --> 00:35:58,505 I did have a sketch done of what I saw. 751 00:36:03,979 --> 00:36:06,579 Oh, [bleep] look at this, right here. 752 00:36:06,581 --> 00:36:09,983 Take a look at that. 753 00:36:09,985 --> 00:36:11,484 Oh, my God. 754 00:36:11,486 --> 00:36:14,721 This is unbelievable. 755 00:36:14,723 --> 00:36:16,823 I had no idea. 756 00:36:16,825 --> 00:36:18,925 Pisses me off. It's like he can't even be a kid. 757 00:36:18,927 --> 00:36:21,060 He's so scared. 758 00:36:21,062 --> 00:36:22,729 This is why I don't... 759 00:36:22,731 --> 00:36:25,665 I mean, he just goes off the deep end. 760 00:36:25,667 --> 00:36:27,967 He's been doing just crazy things. 761 00:36:27,969 --> 00:36:29,569 He'll start growling at you. 762 00:36:29,571 --> 00:36:31,171 He'll start pretending to bite you, 763 00:36:31,173 --> 00:36:33,439 He's actually choked me. 764 00:36:33,441 --> 00:36:34,541 I mean, you can look at him, 765 00:36:34,543 --> 00:36:37,510 and you can see there's nothing there. 766 00:36:37,512 --> 00:36:40,046 I was so disturbed to think 767 00:36:40,048 --> 00:36:43,216 that something could cause this child to act this way. 768 00:36:43,218 --> 00:36:46,586 He's being influenced, because that's not my son. 769 00:36:46,588 --> 00:36:48,988 Mm-hmm. You know, my son's a sweet little boy. 770 00:36:48,990 --> 00:36:50,723 Sometimes, I don't even recognize him. 771 00:36:50,725 --> 00:36:55,061 Is this why? 772 00:36:55,063 --> 00:36:56,262 Actually, no. 773 00:36:56,264 --> 00:37:00,133 It's this guy. 774 00:37:00,135 --> 00:37:04,971 An attachment has been created between him and your son. 775 00:37:04,973 --> 00:37:06,739 He's a murderer. 776 00:37:06,741 --> 00:37:09,475 He's a lunatic. 777 00:37:09,477 --> 00:37:11,878 Any idea why this guy attached himself to Hayden? 778 00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:15,682 He is a child, so he's far more open. 779 00:37:15,684 --> 00:37:18,518 He's vulnerable, and he's a sensitive, 780 00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:20,920 so it's easy pickings. 781 00:37:23,792 --> 00:37:25,458 You okay, Emily? 782 00:37:25,460 --> 00:37:26,559 Yeah. 783 00:37:26,561 --> 00:37:30,196 Well, no, I'm not okay. 784 00:37:30,198 --> 00:37:31,798 This is worse than I thought. 785 00:37:50,585 --> 00:37:51,985 So Craig, Emily, it's a good thing 786 00:37:51,987 --> 00:37:53,319 you called us in when you did. 787 00:37:53,321 --> 00:37:55,655 You both thought Hayden was in danger, 788 00:37:55,657 --> 00:37:58,792 but you had no idea how extensive it was, 789 00:37:58,794 --> 00:38:02,062 but we still haven't addressed the big question. 790 00:38:02,064 --> 00:38:04,064 Is it safe for you to move back in here 791 00:38:04,066 --> 00:38:05,665 and start your life over, 792 00:38:05,667 --> 00:38:07,834 or do you need to convince Justin to get out 793 00:38:07,836 --> 00:38:10,036 and leave the keys to this place by the front door? 794 00:38:10,038 --> 00:38:12,105 For that answer, I'm going to turn it over to Amy. 795 00:38:15,143 --> 00:38:19,846 You have quite a few things to deal with here. 796 00:38:19,848 --> 00:38:22,248 Hayden's the priority. 797 00:38:22,250 --> 00:38:23,917 Dealing with a mentally ill, 798 00:38:23,919 --> 00:38:26,019 young male that has attached himself 799 00:38:26,021 --> 00:38:29,389 to Hayden will be traumatic, 800 00:38:29,391 --> 00:38:31,324 but what I want you to do 801 00:38:31,326 --> 00:38:35,829 is to find a very compassionate, 802 00:38:35,831 --> 00:38:41,101 strong person who is a psychic 803 00:38:41,103 --> 00:38:44,737 and also a Reiki master. 804 00:38:44,739 --> 00:38:50,210 They are going to remove the chords from Hayden. 805 00:38:50,212 --> 00:38:56,049 Once the chord is cut, the psychic is going to attach 806 00:38:56,051 --> 00:38:58,718 that chord to themselves. 807 00:38:58,720 --> 00:39:03,857 The psychic Reiki master will deal with him. 808 00:39:03,859 --> 00:39:07,827 Once he's tied into the Reiki master, 809 00:39:07,829 --> 00:39:10,463 is he gone from this house? Yes. 810 00:39:10,465 --> 00:39:15,735 When this occurs, how will Hayden behave? 811 00:39:15,737 --> 00:39:19,038 You'll see a difference in his behavior. 812 00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:22,242 He's not going to be, necessarily, 100%. 813 00:39:22,244 --> 00:39:24,944 He's been bound to a dead guy who's psychotic. 814 00:39:24,946 --> 00:39:29,916 Okay. So he's going to have PTSD from that. 815 00:39:33,922 --> 00:39:35,922 Yeah. 816 00:39:35,924 --> 00:39:39,359 I just... 817 00:39:39,361 --> 00:39:42,762 Something I don't want him to go through. 818 00:39:42,764 --> 00:39:45,165 What's the alternative if they do nothing? 819 00:39:45,167 --> 00:39:47,467 Well, he grows up to become him. 820 00:39:47,469 --> 00:39:48,501 Oh, no. 821 00:39:48,503 --> 00:39:49,903 - No. - It's going to be done. 822 00:39:49,905 --> 00:39:51,271 There's no two ways about it. 823 00:39:51,273 --> 00:39:53,139 This is my baby. 824 00:39:53,141 --> 00:39:56,309 I can't -- I can't have this. 825 00:39:58,847 --> 00:40:01,080 All right. So how do they deal with this doorway? 826 00:40:01,082 --> 00:40:02,749 I'm not going to lie. 827 00:40:02,751 --> 00:40:06,719 This is really bad, but I have hope 828 00:40:06,721 --> 00:40:11,758 because this was opened by a child. 829 00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:15,161 So it's very, very possible 830 00:40:15,163 --> 00:40:18,831 that, if you get six psychics and mediums 831 00:40:18,833 --> 00:40:20,833 who work in the paranormal, 832 00:40:20,835 --> 00:40:26,739 you might be able to contain this and remove shadow people. 833 00:40:26,741 --> 00:40:29,275 What's the difference if a kid did it or if an adult did it? 834 00:40:29,277 --> 00:40:31,878 It didn't innately form. 835 00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:33,680 - On its own. - Correct. 836 00:40:33,682 --> 00:40:35,949 Which means it can be closed, as well. 837 00:40:35,951 --> 00:40:37,650 Yes. 838 00:40:37,652 --> 00:40:40,486 So what exactly are these six sensitives going to do? 839 00:40:40,488 --> 00:40:42,622 They're all going to bring their equal talents, 840 00:40:42,624 --> 00:40:45,792 skills and abilities to the situation, 841 00:40:45,794 --> 00:40:47,527 and they are going to use those skills 842 00:40:47,529 --> 00:40:49,562 to try and remove the shadow people 843 00:40:49,564 --> 00:40:52,498 and shut the doorway they're coming through. 844 00:40:52,500 --> 00:40:54,801 So if they follow all the advice you've given them, 845 00:40:54,803 --> 00:40:56,803 will the activity stop at Craig's house? 846 00:40:56,805 --> 00:40:59,639 If it's completely connected with the things 847 00:40:59,641 --> 00:41:02,342 that are going on here, yes. 848 00:41:02,344 --> 00:41:05,178 Emily, if you follow Amy's advice, it sounds like you, 849 00:41:05,180 --> 00:41:08,915 Justin and Hayden can go back to being a family again. 850 00:41:08,917 --> 00:41:09,983 Yes. 851 00:41:09,985 --> 00:41:12,085 I got to get Hayden taken care of. 852 00:41:12,087 --> 00:41:14,754 He's not moving back into this house 853 00:41:14,756 --> 00:41:17,657 until everything is taken care of. 854 00:41:17,659 --> 00:41:18,992 How about you, Grandpa? How you feeling? 855 00:41:18,994 --> 00:41:21,127 It starts tomorrow morning. 856 00:41:21,129 --> 00:41:23,696 I'm going to get Hayden taken care of. 857 00:41:23,698 --> 00:41:26,499 This thing, it's got to die. 858 00:41:28,937 --> 00:41:31,070 Emily and Craig have a lot of work to do 859 00:41:31,072 --> 00:41:33,406 if they want to rid this home of shadow people 860 00:41:33,408 --> 00:41:36,376 and the murderer who's attached to Hayden, 861 00:41:36,378 --> 00:41:38,711 but with the help of a psychic Reiki master 862 00:41:38,713 --> 00:41:40,246 and a team of mediums, 863 00:41:40,248 --> 00:41:41,681 they can work as a family 864 00:41:41,683 --> 00:41:43,249 to free themselves from the evil 865 00:41:43,251 --> 00:41:45,451 that's been tearing them apart. 866 00:41:45,501 --> 00:41:50,051 Repair and Synchronization by Easy Subtitles Synchronizer 1.0.0.0 65621

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