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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:10,177 --> 00:00:13,112 This is not a good situation. 2 00:00:13,114 --> 00:00:16,215 The person would act like a complete lunatic. 3 00:00:16,217 --> 00:00:17,883 This used to be a funeral home. 4 00:00:17,885 --> 00:00:19,651 That's interesting. 5 00:00:19,653 --> 00:00:23,555 The dead people said, "We claimed him." 6 00:00:23,557 --> 00:00:26,692 I don't like being here, period. 7 00:00:26,694 --> 00:00:29,495 I'm seeing, like, a dead girl in here. 8 00:00:29,497 --> 00:00:33,766 I think that this place does something bad to people. 9 00:00:33,768 --> 00:00:35,968 This seems like a possession. 10 00:00:35,970 --> 00:00:38,704 My name is Amy Allan. 11 00:00:38,706 --> 00:00:41,273 Everything was built on blood. 12 00:00:41,275 --> 00:00:42,641 I see dead people. 13 00:00:42,643 --> 00:00:43,942 Very disturbing. 14 00:00:43,944 --> 00:00:46,245 I speak to dead people. 15 00:00:46,247 --> 00:00:48,547 There's victims around him. Ow. 16 00:00:48,549 --> 00:00:49,581 And they speak to me. 17 00:00:49,583 --> 00:00:51,850 Her voice sounds like death. 18 00:00:51,852 --> 00:00:55,020 But there's only one way to know if my findings are real. 19 00:00:55,022 --> 00:00:57,456 The living don't stand a chance here. 20 00:00:57,458 --> 00:00:59,258 I rely on my partner. 21 00:00:59,260 --> 00:01:00,559 I'm Steve Di Schiavi. 22 00:01:00,561 --> 00:01:02,761 I'm a retired New York City homicide detective. 23 00:01:02,763 --> 00:01:03,996 You could have got killed. 24 00:01:03,998 --> 00:01:07,800 And I know every person, every house has secrets. 25 00:01:07,802 --> 00:01:09,034 This is coming straight from Hell. 26 00:01:09,036 --> 00:01:10,436 It's my job to reveal them. 27 00:01:10,438 --> 00:01:12,104 Your mom was murdered right here in this room? 28 00:01:12,106 --> 00:01:13,138 Yes, she was. 29 00:01:13,140 --> 00:01:14,706 But Steve and I never speak... 30 00:01:14,708 --> 00:01:16,742 We never communicate during an investigation. 31 00:01:16,744 --> 00:01:18,143 ...until the very end... 32 00:01:18,145 --> 00:01:19,511 This was just the beginning. 33 00:01:19,513 --> 00:01:21,547 ...when we uncover if it's safe for you to stay... 34 00:01:21,549 --> 00:01:22,948 Oh, my God. 35 00:01:22,950 --> 00:01:25,083 ...or time to get out. 36 00:01:25,085 --> 00:01:27,019 They're very bad. 37 00:01:27,021 --> 00:01:29,388 This house is going to kill me. 38 00:01:42,870 --> 00:01:44,670 I'm up here in the city of Chicago. 39 00:01:44,672 --> 00:01:46,205 I got called in by a guy named Chris, 40 00:01:46,207 --> 00:01:47,873 who runs a tattoo parlor. 41 00:01:47,875 --> 00:01:50,409 Now, he says things are bad because employees, 42 00:01:50,411 --> 00:01:54,079 who are not scared of anything, are scared to be there alone. 43 00:01:54,081 --> 00:01:55,681 But he said the real reason he called us in 44 00:01:55,683 --> 00:01:57,483 is a promise he made to his best friend. 45 00:01:57,485 --> 00:01:58,951 And if we can't help him, 46 00:01:58,953 --> 00:02:01,053 he's not gonna be able to keep that promise. 47 00:02:05,826 --> 00:02:09,194 Before Amy arrives, I sweep the location, 48 00:02:09,196 --> 00:02:11,230 looking for any leading information. 49 00:02:13,501 --> 00:02:15,300 I'm going to cover up and hide anything 50 00:02:15,302 --> 00:02:16,602 that would lead Amy to figure out 51 00:02:16,604 --> 00:02:19,805 this is a tattoo parlor. 52 00:02:19,807 --> 00:02:23,141 When I'm done, the location will be ready for tonight's walk. 53 00:02:33,287 --> 00:02:36,088 A little nervous about this one 54 00:02:36,090 --> 00:02:38,991 'cause a man stepped forward. 55 00:02:38,993 --> 00:02:42,794 And he's -- I believe he's an issue here. 56 00:02:45,199 --> 00:02:48,934 He said, uh, "Twist and turns. 57 00:02:48,936 --> 00:02:54,373 Would hate for anyone to learn the truth of the matter here." 58 00:02:54,375 --> 00:02:56,875 This is not a good situation. 59 00:02:56,877 --> 00:03:00,879 Yeah. It -- Oh, man. 60 00:03:00,881 --> 00:03:03,382 It hurts a lot. 61 00:03:03,384 --> 00:03:06,084 Ooh, lordy, that hurts. 62 00:03:12,726 --> 00:03:14,426 So, Chris, I could tell just looking at you. 63 00:03:14,428 --> 00:03:16,628 It's got to be hard for somebody like yourself 64 00:03:16,630 --> 00:03:18,096 to even reach out for help. 65 00:03:18,098 --> 00:03:19,364 What's going on here? 66 00:03:19,366 --> 00:03:21,400 When I've got my artists coming up to me, 67 00:03:21,402 --> 00:03:24,703 telling me that they're seeing shadow figures at night, 68 00:03:24,705 --> 00:03:27,105 girls screaming from the basement, 69 00:03:27,107 --> 00:03:29,141 things are falling off the walls, 70 00:03:29,143 --> 00:03:30,509 I've got an issue. 71 00:03:30,511 --> 00:03:31,843 I don't want somebody getting hurt. 72 00:03:31,845 --> 00:03:33,111 It hasn't happened yet. 73 00:03:33,113 --> 00:03:34,913 But I'm not willing to take that chance. 74 00:03:34,915 --> 00:03:36,381 Chris, let's get some of the basics out of the way. 75 00:03:36,383 --> 00:03:37,649 How long have you owned this place? 76 00:03:37,651 --> 00:03:39,351 -10 years now. - Okay. 77 00:03:39,353 --> 00:03:41,086 And it's a pretty big building. 78 00:03:41,088 --> 00:03:42,521 You have the whole building yourself? 79 00:03:42,523 --> 00:03:45,624 Yes. It's, uh, 1,400 square feet per floor. 80 00:03:45,626 --> 00:03:46,925 We have a basement, 81 00:03:46,927 --> 00:03:51,163 the shop and then the apartment upstairs. 82 00:03:51,165 --> 00:03:52,664 What about history of this location? 83 00:03:52,666 --> 00:03:53,932 Do you have any idea what's going on? 84 00:03:53,934 --> 00:03:57,903 Well, basically, this used to be a funeral home. 85 00:03:57,905 --> 00:03:59,972 Oh, that's interesting. So, Chris, normally, 86 00:03:59,974 --> 00:04:01,840 I would tell clients, why don't you just leave? 87 00:04:01,842 --> 00:04:03,375 But you had mentioned on the phone 88 00:04:03,377 --> 00:04:04,676 something about a promise. 89 00:04:04,678 --> 00:04:05,877 Yeah. We can't leave. 90 00:04:05,879 --> 00:04:07,212 Myself and my two partners 91 00:04:07,214 --> 00:04:09,147 that run the shop, we made a promise. 92 00:04:09,149 --> 00:04:11,316 Our best friend, Richie, used to run this tattoo parlor. 93 00:04:11,318 --> 00:04:12,351 And he passed away. 94 00:04:12,353 --> 00:04:13,785 I know it's hard to talk about. 95 00:04:13,787 --> 00:04:16,321 But what can you tell me about Richie's death? 96 00:04:16,323 --> 00:04:17,656 Um, he passed away upstairs. 97 00:04:17,658 --> 00:04:19,424 He was 37 years old. 98 00:04:19,426 --> 00:04:21,460 And he passed away in his sleep. 99 00:04:21,462 --> 00:04:23,195 Okay. Uh, now, I got to ask, 100 00:04:23,197 --> 00:04:24,396 was it a drug overdose? 101 00:04:24,398 --> 00:04:25,664 No. Not at all. 102 00:04:25,666 --> 00:04:29,134 He was in good health, no drugs, no nothing. 103 00:04:29,136 --> 00:04:31,269 Uh, the autopsy report said minor heart attack. 104 00:04:31,271 --> 00:04:35,173 So can you tell me what kind of guy he was? 105 00:04:35,175 --> 00:04:39,411 Heavily tattooed, very outspoken, charismatic. 106 00:04:39,413 --> 00:04:40,912 Everywhere he went, he made friends. 107 00:04:40,914 --> 00:04:42,814 You know, yes. He was a big guy, 108 00:04:42,816 --> 00:04:44,549 to some people, very intimidating. 109 00:04:44,551 --> 00:04:46,652 But he had a heart of gold. When he passed away, 110 00:04:46,654 --> 00:04:49,187 there was over 3,000 people at his wake alone. 111 00:04:49,189 --> 00:04:50,288 - Wow. - He was the best. 112 00:04:50,290 --> 00:04:52,891 And he still is. And he still is. 113 00:04:52,893 --> 00:04:54,493 Now, what's the promise? 114 00:04:54,495 --> 00:04:58,296 I promised his son and his wife 115 00:04:58,298 --> 00:05:01,133 that we would run this business for them. 116 00:05:01,135 --> 00:05:02,734 And when he turned 18, 117 00:05:02,736 --> 00:05:05,470 we would offer it up to Richie's son. 118 00:05:05,472 --> 00:05:07,139 Okay. So how old is he now? 119 00:05:07,141 --> 00:05:08,740 He's 14. 120 00:05:08,742 --> 00:05:10,175 - Getting close. - Yeah. 121 00:05:10,177 --> 00:05:11,510 It is. And I just want to make sure 122 00:05:11,512 --> 00:05:13,545 that I'm turning over a safe environment. 123 00:05:13,547 --> 00:05:15,113 But I don't want to turn it over, 124 00:05:15,115 --> 00:05:16,982 and then a month later, something bad happens. 125 00:05:16,984 --> 00:05:18,583 And I can't explain. 126 00:05:18,585 --> 00:05:20,852 Then what would it have been for 127 00:05:20,854 --> 00:05:22,854 when everything we do here is for him? 128 00:05:22,856 --> 00:05:23,889 That's incredible. 129 00:05:23,891 --> 00:05:25,257 Richie would have done it for me. 130 00:05:25,259 --> 00:05:28,393 So we never hesitated to do it for him. 131 00:05:33,934 --> 00:05:36,435 Down here, there's a lot of lonely, 132 00:05:36,437 --> 00:05:39,337 sad, depressed, lost people. 133 00:05:41,642 --> 00:05:44,242 Can you tell anything about them in life? 134 00:05:44,244 --> 00:05:46,578 They look like they're dressed up. 135 00:05:46,580 --> 00:05:47,813 You know, I would probably say, 136 00:05:47,815 --> 00:05:51,183 like, late 30s, early 40s, I would say. 137 00:05:57,624 --> 00:06:00,492 Ooh, geez 138 00:06:02,196 --> 00:06:05,063 I'm getting a male who had a heart attack back here. 139 00:06:08,802 --> 00:06:11,336 This guy had a heart attack back here. 140 00:06:11,338 --> 00:06:13,839 And the dead people from downstairs said, 141 00:06:13,841 --> 00:06:17,309 "We claimed him." 142 00:06:17,311 --> 00:06:18,643 They said, "We didn't kill him. 143 00:06:18,645 --> 00:06:20,712 We just took him." 144 00:06:20,714 --> 00:06:24,282 Basically, "'Cause we can't leave, he can't leave." 145 00:06:30,424 --> 00:06:32,257 So, Chris, why'd you bring me here? 146 00:06:32,259 --> 00:06:33,792 Because right up here 147 00:06:33,794 --> 00:06:36,061 is where Richie had his worst experience. 148 00:06:36,063 --> 00:06:37,295 What happened? 149 00:06:37,297 --> 00:06:40,365 He was coming down out of his apartment. 150 00:06:40,367 --> 00:06:41,767 And that's when he says that he's met 151 00:06:41,769 --> 00:06:43,802 by an apparition named Walter. 152 00:06:43,804 --> 00:06:46,171 They got into a verbal argument. 153 00:06:46,173 --> 00:06:47,873 And Richie said that Walter 154 00:06:47,875 --> 00:06:49,741 literally pushed him from behind, 155 00:06:49,743 --> 00:06:51,109 down the stairs, all the way down. 156 00:06:51,111 --> 00:06:53,378 His boot hits the ceiling there, 157 00:06:53,380 --> 00:06:55,080 comes all the way down these metal steps 158 00:06:55,082 --> 00:06:56,982 and landed right here. 159 00:06:56,984 --> 00:06:58,350 And how bad did he get hurt? 160 00:06:58,352 --> 00:07:01,019 Surprisingly, he just had some minor bruises, 161 00:07:01,021 --> 00:07:02,587 no big deal. 162 00:07:02,589 --> 00:07:04,990 I mean, it was a miracle of God that he didn't die. 163 00:07:09,663 --> 00:07:12,397 This is not a good area. 164 00:07:12,399 --> 00:07:16,067 So there's a guy. 165 00:07:16,069 --> 00:07:17,469 It just seems bad to me. 166 00:07:17,471 --> 00:07:20,071 Like, I don't want to go in that area 167 00:07:20,073 --> 00:07:21,706 'cause he's in that area. 168 00:07:21,708 --> 00:07:23,909 And he's, like, pacing. 169 00:07:23,911 --> 00:07:25,811 He's very upset. 170 00:07:28,382 --> 00:07:30,882 He keeps flashing between, like, being 70 and, 171 00:07:30,884 --> 00:07:32,417 like, being, like, 30. 172 00:07:32,419 --> 00:07:36,188 Uh, I did see him, like, caressing people. 173 00:07:36,190 --> 00:07:37,589 Anyone in particular? 174 00:07:37,591 --> 00:07:40,692 Uh, women, definitely women. 175 00:07:40,694 --> 00:07:44,362 The males here are being harmed. 176 00:07:44,364 --> 00:07:47,566 I feel like it's a lot more physical. 177 00:07:49,703 --> 00:07:51,203 I don't know what he's doing with the men. 178 00:07:51,205 --> 00:07:53,672 He could be, like, just assaulting them, 179 00:07:53,674 --> 00:07:56,174 like, torturing them. 180 00:08:03,050 --> 00:08:05,116 Now, you talked about Richie's experiences. 181 00:08:05,118 --> 00:08:06,117 But what about you? 182 00:08:06,119 --> 00:08:07,919 Right behind you, at my station, 183 00:08:07,921 --> 00:08:10,922 I have a mask that hung right above my, uh, desk. 184 00:08:10,924 --> 00:08:12,958 And it kept falling down, over and over. 185 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:14,593 Fell down once. Hit me in the head. 186 00:08:14,595 --> 00:08:16,962 Fell down a second time. Broke the keyboard. 187 00:08:16,964 --> 00:08:18,964 And there's no problem with the wall 188 00:08:18,966 --> 00:08:20,632 being sloped or anything like that. 189 00:08:20,634 --> 00:08:21,766 You don't think that's the case? 190 00:08:21,768 --> 00:08:23,702 No, 'cause nothing else has ever fallen. 191 00:08:23,704 --> 00:08:25,070 All right. So what do you think caused that? 192 00:08:25,072 --> 00:08:26,304 I think it's some sort of spirit, 193 00:08:26,306 --> 00:08:27,606 some sort of apparition that -- 194 00:08:27,608 --> 00:08:29,741 that likes to torment. 195 00:08:29,743 --> 00:08:31,276 All right. Well, that's interesting. 196 00:08:31,278 --> 00:08:32,644 Uh, anything else going on? 197 00:08:32,646 --> 00:08:35,313 Um, the other night, I was in here doing some work 198 00:08:35,315 --> 00:08:37,782 and started feeling like something was watching me, 199 00:08:37,784 --> 00:08:39,251 like something was standing behind me. 200 00:08:39,253 --> 00:08:41,920 So I just, you know, turned around, looked, nothing. 201 00:08:41,922 --> 00:08:43,755 Have you had that feeling before? 202 00:08:43,757 --> 00:08:44,890 Yes, I have. 203 00:08:44,892 --> 00:08:46,758 And so have a bunch of my other artists. 204 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:48,927 So another five minutes goes by. 205 00:08:48,929 --> 00:08:50,495 And I'm still feeling that feeling 206 00:08:50,497 --> 00:08:52,697 in the pit of my stomach like something's not right. 207 00:08:52,699 --> 00:08:53,765 Went out the front door. 208 00:08:53,767 --> 00:08:55,367 Locked up shop and said good night 209 00:08:55,369 --> 00:08:57,002 to Richie like I always do. 210 00:08:57,004 --> 00:08:59,037 You think Richie's here in spirit? 211 00:08:59,039 --> 00:09:00,171 Yes. 212 00:09:00,173 --> 00:09:01,773 I believe he's watching over all of us. 213 00:09:04,177 --> 00:09:07,445 Totally, like, got the air sucked out of me. 214 00:09:07,447 --> 00:09:10,348 Whoa. 215 00:09:10,350 --> 00:09:13,018 This is not a good area. 216 00:09:13,020 --> 00:09:16,388 I think that the living would feel like they're being watched. 217 00:09:18,825 --> 00:09:21,192 What is this? 218 00:09:21,194 --> 00:09:23,161 It's icky. It is icky. 219 00:09:23,163 --> 00:09:26,464 I keep seeing the old man, old-slash-young man. 220 00:09:26,466 --> 00:09:28,266 Like, he's always watching. 221 00:09:28,268 --> 00:09:31,536 But this is something different. 222 00:09:31,538 --> 00:09:36,574 Like, this is something that's even darker than him. 223 00:09:36,576 --> 00:09:39,010 Oh, it's, like, some kind of weird cat thing. 224 00:09:39,012 --> 00:09:41,713 This is, like, bad. It's bad. 225 00:09:41,715 --> 00:09:44,082 I think the living would hear the scratching. 226 00:09:44,084 --> 00:09:47,218 And I think that the living are hearing, 227 00:09:47,220 --> 00:09:50,155 uh, screaming and growls. 228 00:09:52,326 --> 00:09:54,225 I don't like it. 229 00:10:13,956 --> 00:10:15,756 So, Nick, I understand you and Chris are partners 230 00:10:15,758 --> 00:10:17,558 in the business downstairs. - Yes. 231 00:10:17,560 --> 00:10:19,059 Um, it -- did I hear right, 232 00:10:19,061 --> 00:10:20,861 that you lived up here at some point? 233 00:10:20,863 --> 00:10:22,463 Yeah, for 61/2 years. 234 00:10:22,465 --> 00:10:24,365 I understand you were good friends with Richie. 235 00:10:24,367 --> 00:10:26,166 Yeah. He made an impact 236 00:10:26,168 --> 00:10:28,335 on everybody's life that he touched. 237 00:10:28,337 --> 00:10:30,337 This was our home. 238 00:10:30,339 --> 00:10:32,506 And this was a lot of people's home. 239 00:10:32,508 --> 00:10:34,908 Is it strange being back here? You feeling anything? 240 00:10:34,910 --> 00:10:37,010 I don't like being here just period. 241 00:10:37,012 --> 00:10:38,746 So would you say the reason for that 242 00:10:38,748 --> 00:10:40,414 is because of the paranormal stuff 243 00:10:40,416 --> 00:10:42,950 or what happened with Richie? 244 00:10:42,952 --> 00:10:44,718 I think both. 245 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:46,754 But you still continue to do it, though. 246 00:10:46,756 --> 00:10:50,124 Our word is our word. We have to do it. 247 00:10:50,126 --> 00:10:51,325 Rich was a good guy. 248 00:10:51,327 --> 00:10:53,994 And, I -- I mean, without crying, I mean, I -- 249 00:10:53,996 --> 00:10:55,829 that's all I can say. - Mm-hmm. 250 00:10:55,831 --> 00:10:58,165 I know he would've took care of my children. 251 00:10:58,167 --> 00:11:01,001 When you were living here, did you ever feel ill or any -- 252 00:11:01,003 --> 00:11:03,237 have any complications, medically? 253 00:11:03,239 --> 00:11:04,805 Yeah. I went to the doctor. 254 00:11:04,807 --> 00:11:07,174 And, uh, he did an EKG, this and that. 255 00:11:07,176 --> 00:11:10,944 And, uh, you know, I had, like, a small heart attack 256 00:11:10,946 --> 00:11:13,247 that I didn't even know about. - You're kidding. 257 00:11:13,249 --> 00:11:15,182 I didn't realize I had a heart attack. 258 00:11:15,184 --> 00:11:16,784 How old were you at the time? Do you remember? 259 00:11:16,786 --> 00:11:18,452 I was 49. 260 00:11:18,454 --> 00:11:22,322 I'm feeling 10 times better that I'm not living here. 261 00:11:22,324 --> 00:11:24,458 Okay. So as far as experiences go, 262 00:11:24,460 --> 00:11:26,393 have you had any? - Yeah. 263 00:11:26,395 --> 00:11:29,296 I was actually sleeping in the room right here. 264 00:11:29,298 --> 00:11:34,067 And this door was just closing back and forth, slamming. 265 00:11:34,069 --> 00:11:35,803 Could it have been wind? 266 00:11:35,805 --> 00:11:37,771 Uh, personally, I don't think so. 267 00:11:37,773 --> 00:11:39,740 This is a pretty heavy door. 268 00:11:39,742 --> 00:11:41,575 Okay, Nick. Anything else? 269 00:11:41,577 --> 00:11:42,843 I would see shadows 270 00:11:42,845 --> 00:11:46,013 when I was in either my bedroom or in the backroom. 271 00:11:46,015 --> 00:11:47,848 I mean, with all the windows and lights 272 00:11:47,850 --> 00:11:49,883 going through here, could it have been coming 273 00:11:49,885 --> 00:11:51,418 from the outside by any chance? 274 00:11:51,420 --> 00:11:53,821 Uh, no. No. 275 00:11:53,823 --> 00:11:55,522 Did Richie ever tell you 276 00:11:55,524 --> 00:11:57,724 he had paranormal experiences here? 277 00:11:57,726 --> 00:11:58,959 Yes. 278 00:11:58,961 --> 00:12:01,028 He would sit down and tell you, "Listen. 279 00:12:01,030 --> 00:12:03,397 I'm not crazy. I know there's something here." 280 00:12:07,703 --> 00:12:11,104 The thing about that cat thing 281 00:12:11,106 --> 00:12:15,642 is that I think it was human. 282 00:12:15,644 --> 00:12:18,645 So why are you calling this thing a -- a cat? 283 00:12:18,647 --> 00:12:21,849 Because the way that it sounds 284 00:12:21,851 --> 00:12:24,918 and the scratching noises that it makes. 285 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:26,787 Do you know if they see him? 286 00:12:26,789 --> 00:12:28,655 - Oh, yeah. - What do they see? 287 00:12:28,657 --> 00:12:33,527 More than likely, like, a little black, shadowy blob. 288 00:12:35,998 --> 00:12:37,731 What kind of effect do you think it would have 289 00:12:37,733 --> 00:12:39,533 on the living that have spent a lot of time here? 290 00:12:39,535 --> 00:12:43,403 He influences them to act out. 291 00:12:43,405 --> 00:12:46,840 A person would act like a complete lunatic. 292 00:12:46,842 --> 00:12:49,076 He's a bad 293 00:12:49,078 --> 00:12:51,478 He wants bad stuff to go down. 294 00:12:57,686 --> 00:13:00,120 So, Neal, I understand you work as a tattoo artist here. 295 00:13:00,122 --> 00:13:01,355 - Yes. That's right. - Okay. 296 00:13:01,357 --> 00:13:02,589 So how long have you worked here? 297 00:13:02,591 --> 00:13:04,191 About 4 years now. 298 00:13:04,193 --> 00:13:05,158 Why'd you take me down to the basement? 299 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:06,426 What's the story? 300 00:13:06,428 --> 00:13:10,597 Most, uh, sightings generally happen down here. 301 00:13:10,599 --> 00:13:12,699 With the stuff that's going on here with the experiences, 302 00:13:12,701 --> 00:13:13,934 have you had any? 303 00:13:13,936 --> 00:13:15,235 Yes. I've had many. 304 00:13:15,237 --> 00:13:16,737 Okay. Tell me about some of 'em. 305 00:13:16,739 --> 00:13:18,805 You can hear, uh, banging. 306 00:13:18,807 --> 00:13:21,775 And it sounds like someone's walking around down here 307 00:13:21,777 --> 00:13:23,777 in the middle of the night, when you're upstairs, 308 00:13:23,779 --> 00:13:25,279 so... 309 00:13:25,281 --> 00:13:27,147 You guys have problems with rodents or anything like that? 310 00:13:27,149 --> 00:13:29,383 No. This really sounds like someone 311 00:13:29,385 --> 00:13:31,351 is punching the ceiling 312 00:13:31,353 --> 00:13:35,355 of the basement underneath your feet. 313 00:13:35,357 --> 00:13:36,757 Okay. Anything else? 314 00:13:36,759 --> 00:13:38,892 Real late at night, when I'm walking up, 315 00:13:38,894 --> 00:13:42,663 standing in the doorway is a shadow of a man. 316 00:13:42,665 --> 00:13:44,865 And you can see it very clearly. 317 00:13:44,867 --> 00:13:49,670 Uh, it also feels like it's looking at you as well. 318 00:13:49,672 --> 00:13:52,406 I wouldn't necessarily say it's black. 319 00:13:52,408 --> 00:13:55,509 It's more, uh, just a void. 320 00:13:55,511 --> 00:13:57,611 Uh, it'll make your stomach turn. 321 00:13:57,613 --> 00:13:59,112 All right. So what else is going on? 322 00:13:59,114 --> 00:14:00,380 Multiple people have, uh, 323 00:14:00,382 --> 00:14:03,016 claimed that they feel they've been, um, 324 00:14:03,018 --> 00:14:05,352 groped or pushed down here. 325 00:14:05,354 --> 00:14:07,821 You can feel it on your shoulders 326 00:14:07,823 --> 00:14:10,357 the further you go into the basement. 327 00:14:10,359 --> 00:14:13,727 It's, uh, kind of like someone's, uh, 328 00:14:13,729 --> 00:14:16,663 pressing your shoulders down. 329 00:14:16,665 --> 00:14:19,900 Keeping in mind that over 1,000 corpses 330 00:14:19,902 --> 00:14:22,836 have been in and out of this place, 331 00:14:22,838 --> 00:14:26,807 uh, if anywhere is haunted, it's this basement. 332 00:14:30,746 --> 00:14:36,416 I'm seeing, like, like, a group of dead people. 333 00:14:36,418 --> 00:14:38,218 They're upset, and they're crying. 334 00:14:38,220 --> 00:14:40,954 And, uh, uh, they can't get out. 335 00:14:40,956 --> 00:14:43,690 They're confused. I also think the living, 336 00:14:43,692 --> 00:14:46,293 they would see these dead people. 337 00:14:46,295 --> 00:14:48,261 And I think they would see 'em walking in 338 00:14:48,263 --> 00:14:52,399 and out of the walls here. 339 00:14:52,401 --> 00:14:54,501 And I think that people would feel them, 340 00:14:54,503 --> 00:14:57,838 like, bumping into them. 341 00:14:57,840 --> 00:14:59,673 I'm worried about, uh, living people 342 00:14:59,675 --> 00:15:01,208 being, uh, here too much 343 00:15:01,210 --> 00:15:04,277 and exposed too much, uh, because these are all, like, 344 00:15:04,279 --> 00:15:06,013 really depressed people and 345 00:15:06,015 --> 00:15:08,682 So it -- it causes, like, suicidal 346 00:15:08,684 --> 00:15:11,852 I think that this place does something bad to people. 347 00:15:27,777 --> 00:15:29,744 Chris seemed pretty sure his tattoo shop 348 00:15:29,746 --> 00:15:31,112 used to be a funeral parlor. 349 00:15:31,114 --> 00:15:33,080 And it turns out he's right. 350 00:15:33,082 --> 00:15:34,849 I've managed to track down a guy who worked there. 351 00:15:34,851 --> 00:15:36,617 And he says the business was in his family 352 00:15:36,619 --> 00:15:38,486 for nearly 80 years 353 00:15:38,488 --> 00:15:39,720 and that they went through some really 354 00:15:39,722 --> 00:15:42,223 heartbreaking times there. 355 00:15:47,630 --> 00:15:49,997 When did your family open the funeral parlor 356 00:15:49,999 --> 00:15:52,700 that my client's, uh, working in now? 357 00:15:52,702 --> 00:15:56,604 My grandfather, Johnny, moved into that building in 1922 358 00:15:56,606 --> 00:16:00,341 and then operated it as a funeral home until 2001. 359 00:16:00,343 --> 00:16:02,510 Uh, this would be a picture of it going back 360 00:16:02,512 --> 00:16:04,812 to probably the '30s. 361 00:16:07,116 --> 00:16:09,450 So, Mike, what can you tell me about your grandfather? 362 00:16:09,452 --> 00:16:13,554 My grandfather, Johnny, was a very artistic man, 363 00:16:13,556 --> 00:16:16,524 was a painter. 364 00:16:16,526 --> 00:16:20,094 But he was a -- a tough man, too, very headstrong. 365 00:16:20,096 --> 00:16:22,830 You did it his way because his way was the right way. 366 00:16:22,832 --> 00:16:24,965 Now, Mike, you mentioned on the phone that, uh, your family 367 00:16:24,967 --> 00:16:27,268 suffered some tragedy. - Yes. 368 00:16:27,270 --> 00:16:28,836 Uh, my family had three people 369 00:16:28,838 --> 00:16:31,138 that passed away very young. 370 00:16:31,140 --> 00:16:34,708 The first one would've been my Grandma Anna, 371 00:16:34,710 --> 00:16:38,846 uh, passed away at, I believe, 45, when it was 1938. 372 00:16:38,848 --> 00:16:43,150 She had suffered a acute thyroid condition 373 00:16:43,152 --> 00:16:44,452 that then inflamed her heart. 374 00:16:44,454 --> 00:16:47,321 And she was dead within matter of a week. 375 00:16:47,323 --> 00:16:49,089 Now, did she die in the building? 376 00:16:49,091 --> 00:16:52,126 Yes. She did, upstairs in the apartment. 377 00:16:52,128 --> 00:16:53,594 Okay. So that's one. 378 00:16:53,596 --> 00:16:55,095 Who was the second? 379 00:16:55,097 --> 00:16:56,831 The second was my father. 380 00:16:56,833 --> 00:16:58,732 Uh, he had suffered two heart attacks. 381 00:16:58,734 --> 00:17:01,535 And his third heart attack proved to be fatal. 382 00:17:01,537 --> 00:17:03,237 He actually died in the bathroom 383 00:17:03,239 --> 00:17:05,639 of the funeral home, upstairs in the apartment. 384 00:17:05,641 --> 00:17:07,741 - And how old was he? -41. 385 00:17:07,743 --> 00:17:08,976 I have a photo of him here 386 00:17:08,978 --> 00:17:12,913 with my mother and my oldest brother. 387 00:17:12,915 --> 00:17:14,849 And the last death in the family 388 00:17:14,851 --> 00:17:16,951 that was way too young was my brother, David. 389 00:17:16,953 --> 00:17:19,587 - Ah, you're kidding. - Uh, he passed away at 28. 390 00:17:19,589 --> 00:17:21,689 Uh, but again, of a heart condition. 391 00:17:23,726 --> 00:17:26,060 What about your grandfather in all this? 392 00:17:26,062 --> 00:17:28,729 Um, my grandfather, until the early '70s, 393 00:17:28,731 --> 00:17:30,931 was still active in the funeral business, 394 00:17:30,933 --> 00:17:34,401 at which point, old age was setting in. 395 00:17:34,403 --> 00:17:36,103 Uh, and in '75, 396 00:17:36,105 --> 00:17:37,304 they put him in a nursing home. 397 00:17:37,306 --> 00:17:39,306 And within 2 months, he passed. 398 00:17:39,308 --> 00:17:40,474 Geez. Okay. 399 00:17:40,476 --> 00:17:42,209 So how old was he at the time of his death? 400 00:17:42,211 --> 00:17:44,211 Do we know? -86. 401 00:17:48,484 --> 00:17:51,218 I'm seeing the old-young man again. 402 00:17:51,220 --> 00:17:55,589 I think he was probably in his 70s when he died. 403 00:17:55,591 --> 00:17:58,392 I want to say he died, like, in the '80s or '90s. 404 00:17:58,394 --> 00:17:59,827 So what he's showing me probably, like, 405 00:17:59,829 --> 00:18:03,731 from the 1940s or '50s. 406 00:18:03,733 --> 00:18:07,902 The old-young man, I think, lived here at one point in time. 407 00:18:07,904 --> 00:18:11,672 I guess he had a family. I'm seeing, like, 408 00:18:11,674 --> 00:18:17,411 a dark, uh, space, uh, like black walls. 409 00:18:17,413 --> 00:18:21,916 And he's doing stuff to women. 410 00:18:21,918 --> 00:18:23,651 And I don't know if it's okay or not. 411 00:18:26,322 --> 00:18:29,089 It just seems bad to me. 412 00:18:29,091 --> 00:18:31,792 So, Mike, give me the idea of how it was set up. 413 00:18:31,794 --> 00:18:34,128 Uh, I know that you guys lived there as well, right? 414 00:18:34,130 --> 00:18:36,597 The residences were upstairs. 415 00:18:36,599 --> 00:18:39,333 Uh, the first floor would've been strictly geared 416 00:18:39,335 --> 00:18:40,701 for the funeral business, 417 00:18:40,703 --> 00:18:43,971 whether it be for the wake, uh, the funeral ceremony. 418 00:18:43,973 --> 00:18:45,472 There's rooms set aside 419 00:18:45,474 --> 00:18:47,608 that are strictly for embalming. 420 00:18:47,610 --> 00:18:49,209 Can you even put a number on the amount 421 00:18:49,211 --> 00:18:50,644 of bodies that were embalmed and -- 422 00:18:50,646 --> 00:18:52,479 and -- and viewed there? 423 00:18:52,481 --> 00:18:55,616 It has to be in the thousands. 424 00:18:55,618 --> 00:18:57,484 So, Mike, I want to thank you for sharing this with me. 425 00:18:57,486 --> 00:18:59,353 I mean, this is really personal stuff. And I -- 426 00:18:59,355 --> 00:19:01,322 I appreciate you taking the time to do that. 427 00:19:01,324 --> 00:19:04,825 There, uh, might be one thing you would want to look into. 428 00:19:04,827 --> 00:19:07,161 In the '80s, there was a gentleman 429 00:19:07,163 --> 00:19:09,964 who was attending his brother's wake, 430 00:19:09,966 --> 00:19:13,000 uh, that suffered a heart attack in the funeral home. 431 00:19:13,002 --> 00:19:15,369 And I don't know if he survived or not. 432 00:19:18,341 --> 00:19:22,443 This investigation keeps getting stranger and stranger. 433 00:19:22,445 --> 00:19:24,511 I'm on my way to meet the woman whose brother-in-law 434 00:19:24,513 --> 00:19:25,846 had that heart attack right 435 00:19:25,848 --> 00:19:27,781 in the middle of her husband's wake. 436 00:19:27,783 --> 00:19:30,117 She's agreed to tell me exactly what happened. 437 00:19:34,523 --> 00:19:35,589 So, Virginia, I appreciate 438 00:19:35,591 --> 00:19:37,124 you taking the time to talk with me. 439 00:19:37,126 --> 00:19:38,792 Um, I know it's been a long time. 440 00:19:38,794 --> 00:19:40,461 But I want to extend my condolences 441 00:19:40,463 --> 00:19:41,729 on your husband's passing. 442 00:19:41,731 --> 00:19:42,930 Thank you. 443 00:19:42,932 --> 00:19:44,632 Um, your husband's name was Edwin, correct? 444 00:19:44,634 --> 00:19:46,300 Right. Okay. What can you tell me about him? 445 00:19:46,302 --> 00:19:50,671 Well, he was a -- a very outgoing person. 446 00:19:50,673 --> 00:19:52,006 He liked -- loved people. 447 00:19:52,008 --> 00:19:53,374 He loved parties. 448 00:19:53,376 --> 00:19:55,342 Virginia, when did you guys wind up getting married? 449 00:19:55,344 --> 00:20:00,280 We had gotten married in, uh, May of 1961. 450 00:20:00,282 --> 00:20:02,449 - Okay. - And when we got married, 451 00:20:02,451 --> 00:20:06,120 we moved, uh, next door to the funeral home. 452 00:20:06,122 --> 00:20:07,321 How long did you guys live there? 453 00:20:07,323 --> 00:20:09,223 30 years. We lived there for 30 years. 454 00:20:09,225 --> 00:20:10,557 So were you living there 455 00:20:10,559 --> 00:20:12,259 at the time of, uh, Edwin's death? 456 00:20:12,261 --> 00:20:13,594 - Yes. - You were? 457 00:20:13,596 --> 00:20:14,528 Yes, yes. 458 00:20:14,530 --> 00:20:16,263 So, Virginia, if it's okay with you, 459 00:20:16,265 --> 00:20:17,965 how -- how did Edwin pass? 460 00:20:17,967 --> 00:20:20,534 It was the day before Mother's Day. 461 00:20:20,536 --> 00:20:22,670 He had a heart attack. - Okay. 462 00:20:22,672 --> 00:20:24,772 How old was he? - He was 54. 463 00:20:24,774 --> 00:20:27,107 Okay. So he was young. 464 00:20:27,109 --> 00:20:28,742 Yes. Very young. 465 00:20:28,744 --> 00:20:30,344 Very shocking. 466 00:20:30,346 --> 00:20:34,014 We were gonna celebrate 25 years. 467 00:20:34,016 --> 00:20:37,084 And, uh, the invitations were out. 468 00:20:37,086 --> 00:20:39,520 - Okay. - And so it shocked everybody 469 00:20:39,522 --> 00:20:40,954 because everybody had an invitation 470 00:20:40,956 --> 00:20:42,790 to come to our anniversary party. 471 00:20:42,792 --> 00:20:43,924 And they wound up coming to a wake. 472 00:20:43,926 --> 00:20:45,225 Mm-hmm. 473 00:20:45,227 --> 00:20:47,661 I know his brother had a heart attack at the wake. 474 00:20:47,663 --> 00:20:49,163 What can you tell me about him? 475 00:20:49,165 --> 00:20:52,399 Here's a picture of Walter. 476 00:20:52,401 --> 00:20:54,301 Walter was sort of a quiet guy. 477 00:20:54,303 --> 00:20:56,503 But he was a very good husband 478 00:20:56,505 --> 00:20:58,939 and a very, uh, hard worker. 479 00:20:58,941 --> 00:21:00,474 So what happened to him? 480 00:21:00,476 --> 00:21:02,309 Walter came to the wake like everybody else. 481 00:21:02,311 --> 00:21:04,044 There were hundreds of people there. 482 00:21:04,046 --> 00:21:06,580 And so it was very crowded. 483 00:21:06,582 --> 00:21:10,384 And then, uh, he -- he had a heart attack. 484 00:21:10,386 --> 00:21:12,486 This is Walter's death certificate. 485 00:21:15,491 --> 00:21:17,691 So according to this, he was 63 at the time he died. 486 00:21:17,693 --> 00:21:18,792 Right. Right. 487 00:21:18,794 --> 00:21:21,261 That's a shame. I'm sorry to hear that. 488 00:21:25,334 --> 00:21:27,134 Yeah. So a guy died from a heart attack. 489 00:21:27,136 --> 00:21:30,571 Apparently, he's shoved somewhere where they keep them. 490 00:21:30,573 --> 00:21:34,174 Where is he? 491 00:21:34,176 --> 00:21:35,642 He's in the special place. 492 00:21:35,644 --> 00:21:37,444 Okay. 493 00:21:37,446 --> 00:21:39,480 I think they've gotten a little demented, 494 00:21:39,482 --> 00:21:43,317 um, and angry. 495 00:21:43,319 --> 00:21:45,853 The old-young man and the cat thing 496 00:21:45,855 --> 00:21:48,589 are keeping the dead people 497 00:21:48,591 --> 00:21:51,258 in the basement trapped. 498 00:21:51,260 --> 00:21:55,929 Dead people, uh, are now collecting, 499 00:21:55,931 --> 00:22:01,135 um, newly deceased individual's souls. 500 00:22:01,137 --> 00:22:03,103 Any idea why they are doing that? 501 00:22:03,105 --> 00:22:05,606 Revenge. 502 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:12,212 If you need us to investigate 503 00:22:12,214 --> 00:22:14,114 unexplained activity in your home, 504 00:22:14,116 --> 00:22:17,184 go to the "Dead Files" page at travelchannel.com. 505 00:22:17,186 --> 00:22:18,552 Click on "Help Me, Dead Files!" to submit your story, 506 00:22:18,554 --> 00:22:19,686 and we'll help if we can. 507 00:22:28,089 --> 00:22:30,055 So far, I've got at least four people 508 00:22:30,057 --> 00:22:31,991 who died of a heart attack in the building, 509 00:22:31,993 --> 00:22:33,459 all of them young. 510 00:22:33,461 --> 00:22:35,961 Plus, the place used to be a funeral home. 511 00:22:35,963 --> 00:22:38,564 So thousands of bodies came through. 512 00:22:38,566 --> 00:22:40,399 This place has seen a lot of death. 513 00:22:40,401 --> 00:22:43,402 But I want to see if there's anything else. 514 00:22:43,404 --> 00:22:46,171 Searching for old records, I find Anne Noble, 515 00:22:46,173 --> 00:22:48,841 the original property owner's wife. 516 00:22:48,843 --> 00:22:51,777 Turns out, Anne died under mysterious circumstances, 517 00:22:51,779 --> 00:22:55,914 either from a murder or a suicide. 518 00:22:55,916 --> 00:22:57,816 I'm heading over to meet with a local genealogist 519 00:22:57,818 --> 00:22:59,285 who says justice, in this case, 520 00:22:59,287 --> 00:23:01,153 may have never been served. 521 00:23:06,661 --> 00:23:08,494 Jeanne, I appreciate you helping me out 522 00:23:08,496 --> 00:23:09,695 with this case. 523 00:23:09,697 --> 00:23:12,364 Before we get to the suspicious death of this woman, 524 00:23:12,366 --> 00:23:14,466 what were you able to find out about the family? 525 00:23:14,468 --> 00:23:17,236 Major Noble was 22 526 00:23:17,238 --> 00:23:20,939 when he immigrated to the United States from England. 527 00:23:20,941 --> 00:23:24,410 He's in the Chicago area in the early 1840s 528 00:23:24,412 --> 00:23:27,179 with his wife, Anne, and two children. 529 00:23:27,181 --> 00:23:30,749 Okay. So when does he acquire my client's property? 530 00:23:30,751 --> 00:23:36,455 In 1843, he acquires 160 acres of land. 531 00:23:36,457 --> 00:23:39,725 It's primarily prairie land that hasn't been cultivated. 532 00:23:39,727 --> 00:23:41,026 And he's a farmer. 533 00:23:41,028 --> 00:23:44,863 He also operated a tavern on that land. 534 00:23:44,865 --> 00:23:46,131 Okay. So, Jeanne, 535 00:23:46,133 --> 00:23:47,700 take me through what happened with Anne. 536 00:23:47,702 --> 00:23:48,701 What were the circumstances? 537 00:23:48,703 --> 00:23:50,569 Well, in 1845, 538 00:23:50,571 --> 00:23:54,406 she was found dead in her bed, uh, 539 00:23:54,408 --> 00:23:57,810 with a long cotton cloth tied 540 00:23:57,812 --> 00:24:00,546 around her neck. - Okay. 541 00:24:00,548 --> 00:24:03,582 So what'd they say happened to her? 542 00:24:03,584 --> 00:24:06,285 Well, they held a coroner's inquest. 543 00:24:06,287 --> 00:24:09,521 But they actually failed to make a decision. 544 00:24:09,523 --> 00:24:13,826 What they said was that it was death by strangulation 545 00:24:13,828 --> 00:24:16,061 either at her own hand 546 00:24:16,063 --> 00:24:19,098 or at the hand of an unknown person. 547 00:24:19,100 --> 00:24:20,566 All right. So they're basically 548 00:24:20,568 --> 00:24:22,167 saying she was either murdered 549 00:24:22,169 --> 00:24:24,636 or she committed suicide. What about the husband? 550 00:24:24,638 --> 00:24:26,605 They ever question him? - No. 551 00:24:26,607 --> 00:24:28,640 I don't think it's a suicide 'cause, in my experience, 552 00:24:28,642 --> 00:24:31,643 I've never seen anybody strangle themselves to death, 553 00:24:31,645 --> 00:24:32,978 you know, laying down in a bed. 554 00:24:32,980 --> 00:24:35,447 So I'm leaning 90% homicide, 555 00:24:35,449 --> 00:24:37,449 10% suicide that was covered up. 556 00:24:37,451 --> 00:24:39,485 And whether the husband did it or not, I'm not sure. 557 00:24:39,487 --> 00:24:41,086 I'm curious what your thoughts are. 558 00:24:41,088 --> 00:24:43,655 That's really difficult to say. 559 00:24:43,657 --> 00:24:45,023 This was a tavern. 560 00:24:45,025 --> 00:24:47,393 So you had people that you didn't know 561 00:24:47,395 --> 00:24:49,428 coming through the household. - All right. 562 00:24:49,430 --> 00:24:50,963 So it -- it's basically all speculation. 563 00:24:50,965 --> 00:24:53,599 But anything's possible. And it's still an open case. 564 00:24:53,601 --> 00:24:55,267 It's still a mystery. 565 00:24:55,269 --> 00:24:57,770 Okay. 566 00:25:01,242 --> 00:25:03,742 I don't like this. 567 00:25:05,813 --> 00:25:10,215 I'm seeing, like, a dead girl in here. 568 00:25:10,217 --> 00:25:13,252 And she seems to be trapped in this room. 569 00:25:13,254 --> 00:25:15,354 She's in her 20s. 570 00:25:15,356 --> 00:25:16,755 I don't know if she killed herself 571 00:25:16,757 --> 00:25:19,057 or if somebody killed her. 572 00:25:21,495 --> 00:25:24,029 She does say that she didn't want to live anymore, 573 00:25:24,031 --> 00:25:26,532 that everything was too hard. 574 00:25:26,534 --> 00:25:29,168 But her heart goes. Her heart goes. 575 00:25:29,170 --> 00:25:33,839 I'm gonna say she -- she, uh, killed herself. 576 00:25:33,841 --> 00:25:36,608 She said, "Well, I don't go out there because, 577 00:25:36,610 --> 00:25:39,344 have you seen it? It's terrifying." 578 00:25:39,346 --> 00:25:42,080 And that's in reference to the dead people 579 00:25:42,082 --> 00:25:43,849 being trapped here. - Okay. 580 00:25:43,851 --> 00:25:46,885 She doesn't want to get put down in there. 581 00:25:54,228 --> 00:25:57,029 I encountered several disturbing things on my walk. 582 00:25:57,031 --> 00:25:58,263 But the group of dead people 583 00:25:58,265 --> 00:25:59,932 in the basement surrounding a man 584 00:25:59,934 --> 00:26:03,702 who had a heart attack had me the most concerned. 585 00:26:03,704 --> 00:26:09,808 Up towards the entrance, there was a fuzzy mass. 586 00:26:09,810 --> 00:26:12,311 And it's really dark. 587 00:26:12,313 --> 00:26:14,379 And there's a group of dead people 588 00:26:14,381 --> 00:26:17,449 that are standing at the bottom of the stairs. 589 00:26:17,451 --> 00:26:20,619 They really want to leave. 590 00:26:20,621 --> 00:26:22,688 And they feel trapped. 591 00:26:26,861 --> 00:26:28,961 Amy, is this what you saw? 592 00:26:28,963 --> 00:26:30,963 Yes. 593 00:26:51,277 --> 00:26:54,178 Now that Amy and I have completed our investigations, 594 00:26:54,180 --> 00:26:56,280 we're ready to reveal our findings to each other 595 00:26:56,282 --> 00:26:58,849 and our clients for the first time. 596 00:26:58,851 --> 00:27:00,951 Amy, you probably didn't realize it during your walk. 597 00:27:00,953 --> 00:27:03,554 But, obviously, this is a tattoo parlor. 598 00:27:03,556 --> 00:27:06,324 This is Neal. He works here. 599 00:27:06,326 --> 00:27:08,292 And this is Chris, who owns the place. 600 00:27:08,294 --> 00:27:09,560 Activity's bad. 601 00:27:09,562 --> 00:27:11,595 And they're worried for everybody's safety. 602 00:27:11,597 --> 00:27:14,131 But that's not the real reason we were called in. 603 00:27:14,133 --> 00:27:15,966 We're really here because Chris had made 604 00:27:15,968 --> 00:27:17,568 a promise to his best friend. 605 00:27:17,570 --> 00:27:18,836 And I'll leave it at that for now 606 00:27:18,838 --> 00:27:22,340 until I know a little bit more about your walk. 607 00:27:22,342 --> 00:27:26,844 I was upstairs. And I went into the bigger room. 608 00:27:26,846 --> 00:27:33,684 And I saw this black mass. 609 00:27:33,686 --> 00:27:36,120 And it was kind of fuzzy. 610 00:27:36,122 --> 00:27:37,888 This thing is not good. 611 00:27:37,890 --> 00:27:39,490 It -- it definitely affects the living 612 00:27:39,492 --> 00:27:41,392 in a very negative way. 613 00:27:41,394 --> 00:27:44,128 The biggest thing that I got is that you would feel 614 00:27:44,130 --> 00:27:45,830 like you were being watched by this thing 615 00:27:45,832 --> 00:27:48,165 because it's always around. 616 00:27:48,167 --> 00:27:51,268 And I think, all around the place, 617 00:27:51,270 --> 00:27:53,838 you would hear, like, scratching noises, 618 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:55,506 um, a strange growl, like, 619 00:27:55,508 --> 00:27:57,341 as if it was coming from a cat, though, you know. 620 00:27:57,343 --> 00:27:59,043 But it's not a cat. 621 00:27:59,045 --> 00:28:00,711 I was able to figure out, 622 00:28:00,713 --> 00:28:04,148 towards the end of my walk, that this entity was, 623 00:28:04,150 --> 00:28:06,016 in fact, human at one point 624 00:28:06,018 --> 00:28:11,088 and would have been on the premises pre-1940s 625 00:28:11,090 --> 00:28:13,691 and was a bad man. 626 00:28:13,693 --> 00:28:15,426 Well, feeling watched, you and I talked about. 627 00:28:15,428 --> 00:28:17,061 Yeah. The other night, 628 00:28:17,063 --> 00:28:18,629 I had some stuff to do. 629 00:28:18,631 --> 00:28:20,898 And I felt like something was staring at me from behind. 630 00:28:20,900 --> 00:28:23,401 - Mm-hmm. - So I turned around, looked. 631 00:28:23,403 --> 00:28:25,469 Nobody there. 632 00:28:25,471 --> 00:28:26,837 I can attest to that. 633 00:28:26,839 --> 00:28:29,273 I will stay late sometimes. 634 00:28:29,275 --> 00:28:31,275 And you can feel someone looking at you. 635 00:28:31,277 --> 00:28:32,510 And you turn around. 636 00:28:32,512 --> 00:28:34,545 And sure enough, nothing's there. 637 00:28:34,547 --> 00:28:37,181 Neal, you talked to me about hearing strange noises. 638 00:28:37,183 --> 00:28:38,849 Right? - Uh, yeah. 639 00:28:38,851 --> 00:28:41,185 I'll be sitting there, tattooing someone. 640 00:28:41,187 --> 00:28:43,587 And it sounds like someone's 641 00:28:43,589 --> 00:28:47,425 punching the floor underneath my feet. 642 00:28:47,427 --> 00:28:50,428 And I've gone down there. There's nothing there. 643 00:28:50,430 --> 00:28:53,364 I've had customers even ask me, 644 00:28:53,366 --> 00:28:55,299 "What's that noise?" 645 00:28:55,301 --> 00:28:58,836 And then, uh, basically, we just tell 'em, 646 00:28:58,838 --> 00:29:00,704 "It's, uh, it's the ghost." 647 00:29:04,243 --> 00:29:06,444 So what else? 648 00:29:06,446 --> 00:29:09,280 So then I went down to the basement. 649 00:29:09,282 --> 00:29:15,453 And what I encountered was a lot of dead people. 650 00:29:17,657 --> 00:29:22,893 And they are very sad, very depressed and angry. 651 00:29:22,895 --> 00:29:26,063 And I got different time periods with them, uh, 652 00:29:26,065 --> 00:29:27,765 because of their clothing. 653 00:29:27,767 --> 00:29:29,767 This is, like, '20s, '30s, '40s. 654 00:29:29,769 --> 00:29:30,868 Right. 655 00:29:30,870 --> 00:29:32,770 And they were all dressed very well. 656 00:29:32,772 --> 00:29:35,573 I have a pretty good idea what you saw, uh, down there. 657 00:29:35,575 --> 00:29:39,176 From 1922 to 2001, uh, the building was a funeral home. 658 00:29:39,178 --> 00:29:41,846 - Ooh. - It was a family-run business, 659 00:29:41,848 --> 00:29:44,648 uh, started by a guy named John Klemundt. 660 00:29:44,650 --> 00:29:45,983 I actually spoke to a family member 661 00:29:45,985 --> 00:29:47,818 who worked here for 25 years. 662 00:29:47,820 --> 00:29:50,054 And he gave me this picture 663 00:29:50,056 --> 00:29:53,591 of when it was a funeral parlor. 664 00:29:53,593 --> 00:29:56,760 And they lived in the apartment upstairs. 665 00:29:56,762 --> 00:30:00,431 He told me thousands of bodies came through here. 666 00:30:00,433 --> 00:30:02,600 Yeah. They would embalm the bodies here. 667 00:30:02,602 --> 00:30:04,502 Uh, and they held the wakes and the funerals 668 00:30:04,504 --> 00:30:08,272 right here at least almost every single day, 669 00:30:08,274 --> 00:30:11,575 which is maybe when you saw dead people all dressed up. 670 00:30:11,577 --> 00:30:13,811 Interesting. 671 00:30:13,813 --> 00:30:14,845 Now, the dead people, 672 00:30:14,847 --> 00:30:16,280 do they do anything to the living? 673 00:30:16,282 --> 00:30:17,515 Yeah. 674 00:30:17,517 --> 00:30:20,351 If the living were to spend 675 00:30:20,353 --> 00:30:23,120 a lot of time downstairs, 676 00:30:23,122 --> 00:30:25,022 the living would feel that depression 677 00:30:25,024 --> 00:30:27,157 and possibly suicidal. 678 00:30:29,328 --> 00:30:33,764 I think that the living would see these people as, 679 00:30:33,766 --> 00:30:36,600 like, black shadow figures. 680 00:30:36,602 --> 00:30:39,837 And I think because they're so physical that 681 00:30:39,839 --> 00:30:41,472 if the living were down there, 682 00:30:41,474 --> 00:30:42,973 I actually think that people would feel 683 00:30:42,975 --> 00:30:45,676 like they were being bumped into. 684 00:30:45,678 --> 00:30:50,881 If you go down there, you feel, uh, pressure on your shoulders. 685 00:30:50,883 --> 00:30:53,183 And it kind of envelopes you. 686 00:30:53,185 --> 00:30:54,652 And it's pretty uncomfortable. 687 00:30:54,654 --> 00:30:57,755 - Oh - Yeah. 688 00:30:57,757 --> 00:30:59,456 Everybody runs up those stairs. 689 00:30:59,458 --> 00:31:01,325 And you guys don't look like you scare easy. 690 00:31:01,327 --> 00:31:03,093 Nah. I don't scare easy at all. 691 00:31:03,095 --> 00:31:04,528 But a shadow figure, 692 00:31:04,530 --> 00:31:06,764 I've seen it a couple times here and there. 693 00:31:06,766 --> 00:31:10,034 But Neal sees it on a daily basis. 694 00:31:10,036 --> 00:31:12,536 I see it at least four times a week. 695 00:31:12,538 --> 00:31:13,871 It's a void. 696 00:31:13,873 --> 00:31:17,041 I wouldn't even call it black. It's empty. 697 00:31:17,043 --> 00:31:19,610 So the thing about the people downstairs 698 00:31:19,612 --> 00:31:23,113 is that they feel trapped. 699 00:31:23,115 --> 00:31:26,183 Their attitude has become, 700 00:31:26,185 --> 00:31:29,486 "If we're stuck here, y'all are gonna be, too." 701 00:31:32,124 --> 00:31:34,992 So anybody who would die here 702 00:31:34,994 --> 00:31:38,295 now would become trapped by them. 703 00:31:38,297 --> 00:31:40,164 The other thing I got, I was walking up 704 00:31:40,166 --> 00:31:41,799 to the top of those stairs. 705 00:31:41,801 --> 00:31:45,603 And there was, uh, a male who came in really quickly. 706 00:31:45,605 --> 00:31:47,304 And he had a heart attack. 707 00:31:47,306 --> 00:31:49,306 And he died. 708 00:31:49,308 --> 00:31:51,475 And he is their first, 709 00:31:51,477 --> 00:31:54,812 like, victim as far as being trapped. 710 00:31:54,814 --> 00:31:56,814 So they're holding him here 711 00:31:56,816 --> 00:32:00,050 just like they've been held here. 712 00:32:00,052 --> 00:32:05,889 And so I had a sketch done of what I saw. 713 00:32:05,891 --> 00:32:08,192 Any idea when this guy had a heart attack? 714 00:32:08,194 --> 00:32:10,594 In the last 20-- 20 years, I guess. 715 00:32:23,576 --> 00:32:26,577 So these dressed-up people are the dead in the basement? 716 00:32:26,579 --> 00:32:28,612 Yes. 717 00:32:28,614 --> 00:32:31,148 And they've taken this guy who had a heart attack? 718 00:32:31,150 --> 00:32:33,350 Yes. 719 00:32:33,352 --> 00:32:36,186 I don't think I'll be looking at the stairs the same again. 720 00:32:36,188 --> 00:32:38,555 Never again. 721 00:32:38,557 --> 00:32:40,958 Well, obviously, we -- we need to talk about Richie. 722 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:42,726 - Yes. - Um, now, 723 00:32:42,728 --> 00:32:45,095 that's Chris' best friend I was telling you about, 724 00:32:45,097 --> 00:32:46,563 who he made a promise to. 725 00:32:46,565 --> 00:32:48,832 This is a photo of Richie right here. 726 00:32:52,238 --> 00:32:54,304 He was a very charismatic guy. 727 00:32:54,306 --> 00:32:56,940 He was always very open, very gracious. 728 00:32:56,942 --> 00:32:58,242 If he could do something for you, 729 00:32:58,244 --> 00:32:59,176 you never even had to ask. 730 00:32:59,178 --> 00:33:01,078 He would just do it for you. 731 00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:04,381 Do me a favor and take Amy through Richie's death. 732 00:33:04,383 --> 00:33:06,984 Richie was celebrating his 37th birthday. 733 00:33:06,986 --> 00:33:08,986 He used to live upstairs. 734 00:33:08,988 --> 00:33:12,356 He went to sleep, did not wake up. 735 00:33:12,358 --> 00:33:13,724 He had a mild heart attack. 736 00:33:13,726 --> 00:33:16,860 He just passed away in his sleep. 737 00:33:16,862 --> 00:33:20,030 Now, do me a favor and tell her about that promise you made. 738 00:33:20,032 --> 00:33:22,766 When he passed away, his son was 4 years old. 739 00:33:22,768 --> 00:33:25,536 - Oh, man. - We made a promise to his son 740 00:33:25,538 --> 00:33:29,573 and to his son's mother that we would reopen this shop. 741 00:33:29,575 --> 00:33:32,142 And in any way, we would help. 742 00:33:32,144 --> 00:33:34,411 Here's a picture of Odin, Richie's son. 743 00:33:34,413 --> 00:33:35,946 He's, what, about 14? 744 00:33:35,948 --> 00:33:38,949 - Yes. He just turned 14. - He's a good kid. 745 00:33:38,951 --> 00:33:41,852 Now, the thing is, when he turns 18, 746 00:33:41,854 --> 00:33:43,087 Chris is ready to turn it over. 747 00:33:43,089 --> 00:33:44,488 But with what's going on here, 748 00:33:44,490 --> 00:33:46,256 he don't know if he could do that. 749 00:33:46,258 --> 00:33:47,791 And that's the reason we're here. 750 00:33:47,793 --> 00:33:50,994 So for the last 10 years, that's why we've been here. 751 00:33:50,996 --> 00:33:52,763 That's why this place means so much to us 752 00:33:52,765 --> 00:33:54,164 'cause this was Richie's. 753 00:33:54,166 --> 00:33:56,433 This was our home. 754 00:33:56,435 --> 00:33:59,336 Now, is this Richie? 755 00:33:59,338 --> 00:34:01,672 Well, more than likely. 756 00:34:04,643 --> 00:34:06,844 That just kind of puts a little pit in -- 757 00:34:06,846 --> 00:34:08,378 in my stomach. - Yeah. 758 00:34:08,380 --> 00:34:10,748 Now, you mentioned that these people claim 759 00:34:10,750 --> 00:34:12,316 anyone who dies here, right? 760 00:34:12,318 --> 00:34:14,084 - Yes. - I got to tell you, 761 00:34:14,086 --> 00:34:17,688 I've never seen so many people die young in one building. 762 00:34:17,690 --> 00:34:20,557 The Klemundts, the family who owned the funeral parlor, 763 00:34:20,559 --> 00:34:24,228 they lost three family members here under the age of 50. 764 00:34:24,230 --> 00:34:26,497 The first was Anna Klemundt, the wife of John, 765 00:34:26,499 --> 00:34:27,865 the guy who originally bought the place 766 00:34:27,867 --> 00:34:29,900 and opened it up as a funeral parlor. 767 00:34:29,902 --> 00:34:32,736 She died in 1938 of a heart attack. 768 00:34:32,738 --> 00:34:35,539 Uh, she's about 45 years old. 769 00:34:35,541 --> 00:34:39,143 The next death was her and John's son, Richard, 770 00:34:39,145 --> 00:34:41,211 who died after his third heart attack 771 00:34:41,213 --> 00:34:43,781 in the upstairs bathroom in 1963. 772 00:34:43,783 --> 00:34:45,949 - Mm. - He was 41 when he died. 773 00:34:45,951 --> 00:34:48,986 Now, there's a third one who was John's grandson, 774 00:34:48,988 --> 00:34:51,655 David, who died of a heart attack in 1984. 775 00:34:51,657 --> 00:34:52,956 So that's another heart attack? 776 00:34:52,958 --> 00:34:54,892 - Right. - Mm. 777 00:34:54,894 --> 00:34:57,494 Um, he was only 28. 778 00:34:57,496 --> 00:34:58,929 Now, it gets worse. 779 00:34:58,931 --> 00:35:01,398 In 1986, they were holding a funeral 780 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,535 for a dead guy named Edwin Cudecki. 781 00:35:04,537 --> 00:35:08,105 He died from, of course, a heart attack. 782 00:35:08,107 --> 00:35:10,307 Edwin's brother, Walter... 783 00:35:10,309 --> 00:35:12,509 Edwin's brother, Walter? 784 00:35:12,511 --> 00:35:16,113 ...came here to do visitation 785 00:35:16,115 --> 00:35:17,881 with his brother at the wake 786 00:35:17,883 --> 00:35:21,285 and had a heart attack right here. 787 00:35:21,287 --> 00:35:23,453 I hope you're ready for this. Okay. 788 00:35:23,455 --> 00:35:27,191 One day, Richie came down to the front steps... 789 00:35:27,193 --> 00:35:29,993 - Mm-hmm. - ...got into an argument 790 00:35:29,995 --> 00:35:31,461 with an apparition. 791 00:35:31,463 --> 00:35:34,464 The apparition tells him, "My name's Walter. 792 00:35:34,466 --> 00:35:35,899 What are you doing here?" 793 00:35:35,901 --> 00:35:38,635 Richie gets pushed, goes head over heels 794 00:35:38,637 --> 00:35:40,804 down those 15 to 20 metal steps. 795 00:35:40,806 --> 00:35:42,105 - Yeah. - Oh, my God. 796 00:35:42,107 --> 00:35:44,741 - And he landed on the ending. - Now, tell me the truth. 797 00:35:44,743 --> 00:35:46,510 Did you know about this guy, Walter? 798 00:35:46,512 --> 00:35:47,911 - No. - You didn't? 799 00:35:47,913 --> 00:35:49,613 No. I -- I had no idea. 800 00:35:49,615 --> 00:35:51,448 But as for the rest of all these heart attacks 801 00:35:51,450 --> 00:35:53,016 and this guy, Walter, that died of a heart -- 802 00:35:53,018 --> 00:35:55,786 heart attack, heart attack, heart attack, heart attack... 803 00:35:55,788 --> 00:35:57,788 I'm really worried about you guys. 804 00:36:01,427 --> 00:36:05,863 So the person that I'm most concerned about 805 00:36:05,865 --> 00:36:09,867 is a nasty, old man that I encountered. 806 00:36:09,869 --> 00:36:12,603 The way I think he would affect the living, 807 00:36:12,605 --> 00:36:13,804 uh, would be, 808 00:36:13,806 --> 00:36:15,072 uh, women might feel 809 00:36:15,074 --> 00:36:16,473 like they're being caressed. 810 00:36:16,475 --> 00:36:18,475 Not a nice caressed. A sexually aggressive. 811 00:36:18,477 --> 00:36:20,644 - Kind of like a grope? - Yeah. 812 00:36:20,646 --> 00:36:23,580 He sees men as a threat. 813 00:36:23,582 --> 00:36:25,215 I saw him trying to cause 814 00:36:25,217 --> 00:36:28,185 physical pain to men, in particular. 815 00:36:28,187 --> 00:36:29,586 So this guy that you're worried about, 816 00:36:29,588 --> 00:36:31,755 you think he's the one that might have shoved 817 00:36:31,757 --> 00:36:33,390 Richie down the stairs? 818 00:36:33,392 --> 00:36:36,159 Oh, yeah. I could see that. 819 00:36:36,161 --> 00:36:38,428 You get anything about this guy while he was alive? 820 00:36:38,430 --> 00:36:41,164 I thought that he lived here at one time. 821 00:36:41,166 --> 00:36:45,168 He kept showing himself at the age of, like, 822 00:36:45,170 --> 00:36:49,006 30 and then at the age of, like, 70. 823 00:36:49,008 --> 00:36:51,775 I think that he died recently, 824 00:36:51,777 --> 00:36:53,477 like, in the '80s or '90s. 825 00:36:53,479 --> 00:36:57,080 The things that I saw him doing, 826 00:36:57,082 --> 00:36:59,816 uh, when he was younger and alive, 827 00:36:59,818 --> 00:37:02,019 uh, to women, like, I actually was, like, 828 00:37:02,021 --> 00:37:04,288 "Is this consensual or not?" 829 00:37:04,290 --> 00:37:06,223 Now, it's probably not the guy you're -- you're talking about. 830 00:37:06,225 --> 00:37:07,591 But the only one that fits 831 00:37:07,593 --> 00:37:09,259 the time frame is the original guy 832 00:37:09,261 --> 00:37:11,228 that owned this place, John Klemundt. 833 00:37:11,230 --> 00:37:12,896 Now, this guy didn't die in the '80s or '90s. 834 00:37:12,898 --> 00:37:15,265 He -- he died in 1975. 835 00:37:15,267 --> 00:37:16,900 But he was 86 at the time. 836 00:37:16,902 --> 00:37:19,002 I actually got a photo of him. 837 00:37:23,842 --> 00:37:26,476 The only thing he did to women was embalm them. 838 00:37:26,478 --> 00:37:27,611 Let me ask you a question. 839 00:37:27,613 --> 00:37:29,446 Is it possible you could have misinterpreted, uh, 840 00:37:29,448 --> 00:37:32,282 embalming somebody as doing something nasty to women? 841 00:37:32,284 --> 00:37:35,218 It could be. That makes sense. 842 00:37:35,220 --> 00:37:37,554 Okay. So based on this picture, 843 00:37:37,556 --> 00:37:40,023 any chance the guy you saw could be John Klemundt? 844 00:37:40,025 --> 00:37:42,960 That's extremely likely. 845 00:37:46,465 --> 00:37:48,465 The biggest concern is this guy 846 00:37:48,467 --> 00:37:51,435 and the fuzzy thing. 847 00:37:51,437 --> 00:37:55,238 They said that they were working together, 848 00:37:55,240 --> 00:37:58,608 trapping the dead here, these other dead people. 849 00:37:58,610 --> 00:38:04,448 And the dead people downstairs are becoming spiteful. 850 00:38:04,450 --> 00:38:05,882 So now they are like, 851 00:38:05,884 --> 00:38:10,187 "If we're trapped, y'all are gonna be trapped, too." 852 00:38:10,189 --> 00:38:13,690 So Klemundt and this fuzzy thing are causing the heart attacks? 853 00:38:13,692 --> 00:38:15,058 Correct. 854 00:38:15,060 --> 00:38:18,595 For such a great, nice, caring, gentle giant 855 00:38:18,597 --> 00:38:21,798 of a man to be stuck is horrible. 856 00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,601 This is not a good place. 857 00:38:24,603 --> 00:38:27,637 It's just gonna get worse and worse and worse. 858 00:38:27,639 --> 00:38:30,874 One of y'all will probably have a heart attack, 859 00:38:30,876 --> 00:38:32,009 which then means 860 00:38:32,011 --> 00:38:35,946 you're putting his son into harm's way. 861 00:38:35,948 --> 00:38:38,515 So that's not good. 862 00:38:53,007 --> 00:38:55,641 Now, Chris, I know you're a stand-up guy. 863 00:38:55,643 --> 00:38:57,109 And you brought us in here to do the right thing 864 00:38:57,111 --> 00:38:59,778 by your best friend. I got to tell you, 865 00:38:59,780 --> 00:39:01,513 They don't make guys like you anymore. 866 00:39:01,515 --> 00:39:02,982 Thank you. 867 00:39:02,984 --> 00:39:05,551 Now, to see if you can safely hand this place over to Odin, 868 00:39:05,553 --> 00:39:07,853 I'm gonna turn it over to Amy. 869 00:39:09,991 --> 00:39:13,292 Here's the thing. Now, you love him. 870 00:39:13,294 --> 00:39:15,961 And you love Richie. - Yes. Very much. 871 00:39:15,963 --> 00:39:18,764 Right. And you're doing the right thing 872 00:39:18,766 --> 00:39:22,067 by supporting him and his mom. 873 00:39:22,069 --> 00:39:24,703 But you have to do more of the right thing. 874 00:39:24,705 --> 00:39:25,971 Okay. 875 00:39:25,973 --> 00:39:29,174 So you've got all these people who are trapped. 876 00:39:29,176 --> 00:39:32,845 You've got this lunatic trapping them 877 00:39:32,847 --> 00:39:35,614 and giving them heart attacks, which puts, you know, 878 00:39:35,616 --> 00:39:39,952 all of you guys here at risk as well. 879 00:39:39,954 --> 00:39:42,521 They need to be released 880 00:39:42,523 --> 00:39:45,491 so everybody can be at peace and happy. 881 00:39:45,493 --> 00:39:47,426 So here's what's gonna be done. 882 00:39:47,428 --> 00:39:49,928 You're going to find a priest 883 00:39:49,930 --> 00:39:53,165 who is going to do an exorcism. 884 00:39:53,167 --> 00:39:55,301 You're gonna give him the keys to the place. 885 00:39:55,303 --> 00:39:59,204 And you're gonna shut this place down for 72 hours. 886 00:39:59,206 --> 00:40:00,839 You're not gonna know when this priest 887 00:40:00,841 --> 00:40:03,108 is gonna come in here and do his thing. 888 00:40:03,110 --> 00:40:04,943 When he does the exorcism, 889 00:40:04,945 --> 00:40:08,314 he is going to banish this guy 890 00:40:08,316 --> 00:40:11,383 and the black thing. 891 00:40:11,385 --> 00:40:15,654 Once they're gone, these people are gonna be happy. 892 00:40:15,656 --> 00:40:18,424 And they're going to take off. 893 00:40:18,426 --> 00:40:21,060 Why do they need to shut down for 72 hours? 894 00:40:21,062 --> 00:40:24,963 Because there's such a strong attachment 895 00:40:24,965 --> 00:40:29,435 to Richie here with the people that love him, 896 00:40:29,437 --> 00:40:30,936 one of the worries 897 00:40:30,938 --> 00:40:34,206 is that can inadvertently trap him here. 898 00:40:34,208 --> 00:40:37,042 We want it to be his decision, 899 00:40:37,044 --> 00:40:40,312 once he's released from their grip, 900 00:40:40,314 --> 00:40:42,881 his decision what he's going to do. 901 00:40:42,883 --> 00:40:47,019 No living person with any feelings 902 00:40:47,021 --> 00:40:49,621 towards Richie can be here. 903 00:40:52,159 --> 00:40:55,661 It has to be just him. 904 00:40:55,663 --> 00:40:57,363 Richie, I'm never gonna let go of. 905 00:40:57,365 --> 00:40:59,164 He's -- he's in my heart. 906 00:40:59,166 --> 00:41:01,266 You need to give him the option to leave. 907 00:41:01,268 --> 00:41:04,069 He's never gonna be gone. You have a gift. 908 00:41:04,071 --> 00:41:05,371 And you see things differently than -- 909 00:41:05,373 --> 00:41:08,073 than 99.9% of the world. 910 00:41:08,075 --> 00:41:11,143 We all see things in our way. 911 00:41:11,145 --> 00:41:13,145 Uh, the bottom line is Richie needs to get released. 912 00:41:13,147 --> 00:41:15,647 And you need to let go. 913 00:41:17,718 --> 00:41:20,352 I ultimately want what's best for my friend. 914 00:41:20,354 --> 00:41:22,454 Yes. If that's what needs to be done, 915 00:41:22,456 --> 00:41:24,289 then that's what needs to, uh, be done. 916 00:41:24,291 --> 00:41:26,558 And then I'll get past my own personal, 917 00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:30,596 mental and even emotional stuff on my own. 918 00:41:30,598 --> 00:41:32,431 I understand how difficult it can be 919 00:41:32,433 --> 00:41:35,134 to let go of a friend who has passed. 920 00:41:35,136 --> 00:41:37,136 But I believe if Chris brings in a priest 921 00:41:37,138 --> 00:41:38,904 to perform an exorcism, 922 00:41:38,906 --> 00:41:41,373 the dead that are trapped will be set free. 923 00:41:41,375 --> 00:41:43,275 And Chris can keep that promise he made 924 00:41:43,277 --> 00:41:45,477 to the friend he loved so much. 925 00:41:45,527 --> 00:41:50,077 Repair and Synchronization by Easy Subtitles Synchronizer 1.0.0.0 69525

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