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This is not a good situation.
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The person would act
like a complete lunatic.
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This used to be
a funeral home.
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That's interesting.
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The dead people said,
"We claimed him."
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I don't like
being here, period.
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I'm seeing, like,
a dead girl in here.
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I think that this place
does something bad to people.
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This seems like a possession.
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My name is Amy Allan.
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Everything was built on blood.
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I see dead people.
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Very disturbing.
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I speak to dead people.
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There's victims around him.
Ow.
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And they speak to me.
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Her voice sounds like death.
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But there's only one way
to know if my findings are real.
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The living don't
stand a chance here.
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I rely on my partner.
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I'm Steve Di Schiavi.
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I'm a retired New York City
homicide detective.
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You could have
got killed.
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And I know every person,
every house has secrets.
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This is coming
straight from Hell.
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It's my job to reveal them.
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Your mom was murdered
right here in this room?
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Yes, she was.
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But Steve and I never speak...
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We never communicate
during an investigation.
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...until the very end...
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This was
just the beginning.
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...when we uncover
if it's safe for you to stay...
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Oh, my God.
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...or time to get out.
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They're very bad.
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This house
is going to kill me.
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I'm up here
in the city of Chicago.
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I got called in
by a guy named Chris,
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who runs a tattoo parlor.
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Now, he says things are bad
because employees,
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who are not scared of anything,
are scared to be there alone.
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But he said the real reason
he called us in
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is a promise he made
to his best friend.
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And if we can't help him,
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he's not gonna be able
to keep that promise.
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Before Amy arrives,
I sweep the location,
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looking for any
leading information.
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I'm going to cover up
and hide anything
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that would lead
Amy to figure out
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this is a tattoo parlor.
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When I'm done, the location will
be ready for tonight's walk.
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A little nervous about this one
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'cause a man stepped forward.
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And he's --
I believe he's an issue here.
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He said, uh, "Twist and turns.
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Would hate for anyone to learn
the truth of the matter here."
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This is not a good situation.
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Yeah. It -- Oh, man.
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It hurts a lot.
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Ooh, lordy, that hurts.
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So, Chris, I could tell
just looking at you.
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It's got to be hard
for somebody like yourself
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to even reach out
for help.
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What's going on here?
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When I've got my artists
coming up to me,
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telling me that they're seeing
shadow figures at night,
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girls screaming
from the basement,
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things are falling
off the walls,
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I've got an issue.
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I don't want somebody
getting hurt.
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It hasn't happened yet.
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But I'm not willing
to take that chance.
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Chris, let's get some of
the basics out of the way.
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How long have you
owned this place?
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-10 years now.
- Okay.
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And it's a pretty
big building.
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You have the whole
building yourself?
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Yes. It's, uh,
1,400 square feet per floor.
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We have a basement,
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the shop and then
the apartment upstairs.
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What about history
of this location?
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Do you have any idea
what's going on?
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Well, basically, this
used to be a funeral home.
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Oh, that's interesting.
So, Chris, normally,
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I would tell clients,
why don't you just leave?
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But you had mentioned
on the phone
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something about a promise.
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Yeah.
We can't leave.
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Myself
and my two partners
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that run the shop,
we made a promise.
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Our best friend, Richie,
used to run this tattoo parlor.
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And he passed away.
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I know
it's hard to talk about.
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But what can you tell me
about Richie's death?
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Um, he passed away
upstairs.
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He was 37 years old.
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And he passed away
in his sleep.
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Okay.
Uh, now, I got to ask,
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was it a drug overdose?
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No.
Not at all.
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He was in good health,
no drugs, no nothing.
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Uh, the autopsy report
said minor heart attack.
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So can you tell me
what kind of guy he was?
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Heavily tattooed,
very outspoken, charismatic.
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Everywhere he went,
he made friends.
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You know, yes.
He was a big guy,
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to some people,
very intimidating.
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But he had a heart of gold.
When he passed away,
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there was over 3,000 people
at his wake alone.
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- Wow.
- He was the best.
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And he still is.
And he still is.
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Now, what's the promise?
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I promised his son
and his wife
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that we would run
this business for them.
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And when he turned 18,
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we would offer it up
to Richie's son.
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Okay.
So how old is he now?
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He's 14.
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- Getting close.
- Yeah.
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It is.
And I just want to make sure
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that I'm turning over
a safe environment.
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But I don't want to
turn it over,
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and then a month later,
something bad happens.
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And I can't explain.
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Then what would it
have been for
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when everything
we do here is for him?
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That's incredible.
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Richie would have
done it for me.
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So we never hesitated
to do it for him.
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Down here, there's
a lot of lonely,
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sad, depressed,
lost people.
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Can you tell anything
about them in life?
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They look like
they're dressed up.
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You know, I would probably say,
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like, late 30s,
early 40s, I would say.
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Ooh, geez
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I'm getting a male who had
a heart attack back here.
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This guy had
a heart attack back here.
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And the dead people
from downstairs said,
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"We claimed him."
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They said,
"We didn't kill him.
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We just took him."
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Basically, "'Cause we can't
leave, he can't leave."
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So, Chris,
why'd you bring me here?
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Because right up here
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is where Richie had
his worst experience.
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What happened?
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He was coming down
out of his apartment.
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And that's when he says
that he's met
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by an apparition
named Walter.
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They got into
a verbal argument.
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And Richie
said that Walter
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literally pushed him
from behind,
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down the stairs,
all the way down.
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His boot hits
the ceiling there,
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comes all the way
down these metal steps
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and landed right here.
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And how bad
did he get hurt?
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Surprisingly, he just had
some minor bruises,
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no big deal.
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I mean, it was a miracle of God
that he didn't die.
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This is not a good area.
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So there's a guy.
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It just seems bad to me.
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Like, I don't want to
go in that area
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'cause he's in that area.
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And he's, like, pacing.
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He's very upset.
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He keeps flashing between,
like, being 70 and,
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like, being, like, 30.
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Uh, I did see him,
like, caressing people.
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Anyone in particular?
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Uh, women,
definitely women.
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The males here
are being harmed.
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I feel like it's
a lot more physical.
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I don't know what he's
doing with the men.
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He could be, like,
just assaulting them,
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like, torturing them.
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Now, you talked about
Richie's experiences.
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But what about you?
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Right behind you,
at my station,
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I have a mask that hung
right above my, uh, desk.
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And it kept falling down,
over and over.
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Fell down once.
Hit me in the head.
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Fell down a second time.
Broke the keyboard.
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And there's no problem
with the wall
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being sloped
or anything like that.
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You don't think
that's the case?
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No, 'cause nothing else
has ever fallen.
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All right. So what do you
think caused that?
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I think it's some
sort of spirit,
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some sort of
apparition that --
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that likes to torment.
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All right.
Well, that's interesting.
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Uh, anything else
going on?
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Um, the other night,
I was in here doing some work
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and started feeling like
something was watching me,
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like something was
standing behind me.
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So I just, you know,
turned around, looked, nothing.
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Have you had
that feeling before?
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Yes, I have.
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And so have a bunch
of my other artists.
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So another five minutes
goes by.
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And I'm still feeling
that feeling
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in the pit of my stomach
like something's not right.
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Went out the front door.
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Locked up shop
and said good night
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to Richie
like I always do.
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You think Richie's here
in spirit?
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Yes.
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I believe he's watching
over all of us.
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Totally, like, got the air
sucked out of me.
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Whoa.
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This is not a good area.
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I think that the living would
feel like they're being watched.
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What is this?
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It's icky.
It is icky.
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I keep seeing the old man,
old-slash-young man.
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Like, he's always watching.
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But this is something different.
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Like, this is something
that's even darker than him.
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Oh, it's, like, some
kind of weird cat thing.
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This is, like, bad.
It's bad.
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I think the living
would hear the scratching.
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And I think that
the living are hearing,
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uh, screaming and growls.
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I don't like it.
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So, Nick, I understand
you and Chris are partners
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in the business downstairs.
- Yes.
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Um, it --
did I hear right,
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that you lived up here
at some point?
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Yeah,
for 61/2 years.
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I understand you were
good friends with Richie.
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Yeah.
He made an impact
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on everybody's life
that he touched.
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This was our home.
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And this was a lot
of people's home.
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Is it strange being back here?
You feeling anything?
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I don't like being here
just period.
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So would you say
the reason for that
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is because
of the paranormal stuff
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or what happened
with Richie?
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I think both.
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But you still continue
to do it, though.
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Our word is our word.
We have to do it.
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Rich was a good guy.
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And, I -- I mean,
without crying, I mean, I --
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that's all I can say.
- Mm-hmm.
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I know he would've
took care of my children.
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When you were living here,
did you ever feel ill or any --
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have any complications,
medically?
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00:11:03,239 --> 00:11:04,805
Yeah.
I went to the doctor.
254
00:11:04,807 --> 00:11:07,174
And, uh, he did an EKG,
this and that.
255
00:11:07,176 --> 00:11:10,944
And, uh, you know, I had,
like, a small heart attack
256
00:11:10,946 --> 00:11:13,247
that I didn't even know about.
- You're kidding.
257
00:11:13,249 --> 00:11:15,182
I didn't realize
I had a heart attack.
258
00:11:15,184 --> 00:11:16,784
How old were you at the time?
Do you remember?
259
00:11:16,786 --> 00:11:18,452
I was 49.
260
00:11:18,454 --> 00:11:22,322
I'm feeling 10 times better
that I'm not living here.
261
00:11:22,324 --> 00:11:24,458
Okay.
So as far as experiences go,
262
00:11:24,460 --> 00:11:26,393
have you had any?
- Yeah.
263
00:11:26,395 --> 00:11:29,296
I was actually sleeping
in the room right here.
264
00:11:29,298 --> 00:11:34,067
And this door was just closing
back and forth, slamming.
265
00:11:34,069 --> 00:11:35,803
Could it have been wind?
266
00:11:35,805 --> 00:11:37,771
Uh, personally,
I don't think so.
267
00:11:37,773 --> 00:11:39,740
This is
a pretty heavy door.
268
00:11:39,742 --> 00:11:41,575
Okay, Nick.
Anything else?
269
00:11:41,577 --> 00:11:42,843
I would see shadows
270
00:11:42,845 --> 00:11:46,013
when I was in either
my bedroom or in the backroom.
271
00:11:46,015 --> 00:11:47,848
I mean, with all the windows
and lights
272
00:11:47,850 --> 00:11:49,883
going through here,
could it have been coming
273
00:11:49,885 --> 00:11:51,418
from the outside
by any chance?
274
00:11:51,420 --> 00:11:53,821
Uh, no. No.
275
00:11:53,823 --> 00:11:55,522
Did Richie ever tell you
276
00:11:55,524 --> 00:11:57,724
he had paranormal
experiences here?
277
00:11:57,726 --> 00:11:58,959
Yes.
278
00:11:58,961 --> 00:12:01,028
He would sit down
and tell you, "Listen.
279
00:12:01,030 --> 00:12:03,397
I'm not crazy. I know
there's something here."
280
00:12:07,703 --> 00:12:11,104
The thing about that cat thing
281
00:12:11,106 --> 00:12:15,642
is that I think it was human.
282
00:12:15,644 --> 00:12:18,645
So why are you calling
this thing a -- a cat?
283
00:12:18,647 --> 00:12:21,849
Because the way
that it sounds
284
00:12:21,851 --> 00:12:24,918
and the scratching noises
that it makes.
285
00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:26,787
Do you know
if they see him?
286
00:12:26,789 --> 00:12:28,655
- Oh, yeah.
- What do they see?
287
00:12:28,657 --> 00:12:33,527
More than likely, like,
a little black, shadowy blob.
288
00:12:35,998 --> 00:12:37,731
What kind of effect do you
think it would have
289
00:12:37,733 --> 00:12:39,533
on the living that have spent
a lot of time here?
290
00:12:39,535 --> 00:12:43,403
He influences them
to act out.
291
00:12:43,405 --> 00:12:46,840
A person would act
like a complete lunatic.
292
00:12:46,842 --> 00:12:49,076
He's a bad
293
00:12:49,078 --> 00:12:51,478
He wants bad stuff to go down.
294
00:12:57,686 --> 00:13:00,120
So, Neal, I understand you work
as a tattoo artist here.
295
00:13:00,122 --> 00:13:01,355
- Yes. That's right.
- Okay.
296
00:13:01,357 --> 00:13:02,589
So how long have
you worked here?
297
00:13:02,591 --> 00:13:04,191
About 4 years now.
298
00:13:04,193 --> 00:13:05,158
Why'd you take me
down to the basement?
299
00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:06,426
What's the story?
300
00:13:06,428 --> 00:13:10,597
Most, uh, sightings
generally happen down here.
301
00:13:10,599 --> 00:13:12,699
With the stuff that's going
on here with the experiences,
302
00:13:12,701 --> 00:13:13,934
have you had any?
303
00:13:13,936 --> 00:13:15,235
Yes.
I've had many.
304
00:13:15,237 --> 00:13:16,737
Okay.
Tell me about some of 'em.
305
00:13:16,739 --> 00:13:18,805
You can hear,
uh, banging.
306
00:13:18,807 --> 00:13:21,775
And it sounds like someone's
walking around down here
307
00:13:21,777 --> 00:13:23,777
in the middle of the night,
when you're upstairs,
308
00:13:23,779 --> 00:13:25,279
so...
309
00:13:25,281 --> 00:13:27,147
You guys have problems with
rodents or anything like that?
310
00:13:27,149 --> 00:13:29,383
No. This really
sounds like someone
311
00:13:29,385 --> 00:13:31,351
is punching
the ceiling
312
00:13:31,353 --> 00:13:35,355
of the basement
underneath your feet.
313
00:13:35,357 --> 00:13:36,757
Okay.
Anything else?
314
00:13:36,759 --> 00:13:38,892
Real late at night,
when I'm walking up,
315
00:13:38,894 --> 00:13:42,663
standing in the doorway
is a shadow of a man.
316
00:13:42,665 --> 00:13:44,865
And you can see
it very clearly.
317
00:13:44,867 --> 00:13:49,670
Uh, it also feels like
it's looking at you as well.
318
00:13:49,672 --> 00:13:52,406
I wouldn't necessarily
say it's black.
319
00:13:52,408 --> 00:13:55,509
It's more,
uh, just a void.
320
00:13:55,511 --> 00:13:57,611
Uh, it'll make
your stomach turn.
321
00:13:57,613 --> 00:13:59,112
All right.
So what else is going on?
322
00:13:59,114 --> 00:14:00,380
Multiple people have, uh,
323
00:14:00,382 --> 00:14:03,016
claimed that they feel
they've been, um,
324
00:14:03,018 --> 00:14:05,352
groped
or pushed down here.
325
00:14:05,354 --> 00:14:07,821
You can feel it
on your shoulders
326
00:14:07,823 --> 00:14:10,357
the further
you go into the basement.
327
00:14:10,359 --> 00:14:13,727
It's, uh, kind of
like someone's, uh,
328
00:14:13,729 --> 00:14:16,663
pressing
your shoulders down.
329
00:14:16,665 --> 00:14:19,900
Keeping in mind that
over 1,000 corpses
330
00:14:19,902 --> 00:14:22,836
have been in
and out of this place,
331
00:14:22,838 --> 00:14:26,807
uh, if anywhere is haunted,
it's this basement.
332
00:14:30,746 --> 00:14:36,416
I'm seeing, like, like,
a group of dead people.
333
00:14:36,418 --> 00:14:38,218
They're upset,
and they're crying.
334
00:14:38,220 --> 00:14:40,954
And, uh, uh,
they can't get out.
335
00:14:40,956 --> 00:14:43,690
They're confused.
I also think the living,
336
00:14:43,692 --> 00:14:46,293
they would see
these dead people.
337
00:14:46,295 --> 00:14:48,261
And I think they would
see 'em walking in
338
00:14:48,263 --> 00:14:52,399
and out of the walls here.
339
00:14:52,401 --> 00:14:54,501
And I think that people
would feel them,
340
00:14:54,503 --> 00:14:57,838
like, bumping into them.
341
00:14:57,840 --> 00:14:59,673
I'm worried about, uh,
living people
342
00:14:59,675 --> 00:15:01,208
being, uh, here too much
343
00:15:01,210 --> 00:15:04,277
and exposed too much,
uh, because these are all, like,
344
00:15:04,279 --> 00:15:06,013
really depressed people
and
345
00:15:06,015 --> 00:15:08,682
So it -- it causes,
like, suicidal
346
00:15:08,684 --> 00:15:11,852
I think that this place
does something bad to people.
347
00:15:27,777 --> 00:15:29,744
Chris seemed pretty sure
his tattoo shop
348
00:15:29,746 --> 00:15:31,112
used to be a funeral parlor.
349
00:15:31,114 --> 00:15:33,080
And it turns out he's right.
350
00:15:33,082 --> 00:15:34,849
I've managed to track down
a guy who worked there.
351
00:15:34,851 --> 00:15:36,617
And he says the business
was in his family
352
00:15:36,619 --> 00:15:38,486
for nearly 80 years
353
00:15:38,488 --> 00:15:39,720
and that they went through
some really
354
00:15:39,722 --> 00:15:42,223
heartbreaking times there.
355
00:15:47,630 --> 00:15:49,997
When did your family
open the funeral parlor
356
00:15:49,999 --> 00:15:52,700
that my client's,
uh, working in now?
357
00:15:52,702 --> 00:15:56,604
My grandfather, Johnny,
moved into that building in 1922
358
00:15:56,606 --> 00:16:00,341
and then operated it
as a funeral home until 2001.
359
00:16:00,343 --> 00:16:02,510
Uh, this would be a picture
of it going back
360
00:16:02,512 --> 00:16:04,812
to probably the '30s.
361
00:16:07,116 --> 00:16:09,450
So, Mike, what can you tell me
about your grandfather?
362
00:16:09,452 --> 00:16:13,554
My grandfather, Johnny,
was a very artistic man,
363
00:16:13,556 --> 00:16:16,524
was a painter.
364
00:16:16,526 --> 00:16:20,094
But he was a -- a tough man,
too, very headstrong.
365
00:16:20,096 --> 00:16:22,830
You did it his way because
his way was the right way.
366
00:16:22,832 --> 00:16:24,965
Now, Mike, you mentioned on
the phone that, uh, your family
367
00:16:24,967 --> 00:16:27,268
suffered some tragedy.
- Yes.
368
00:16:27,270 --> 00:16:28,836
Uh, my family
had three people
369
00:16:28,838 --> 00:16:31,138
that passed away
very young.
370
00:16:31,140 --> 00:16:34,708
The first one would've
been my Grandma Anna,
371
00:16:34,710 --> 00:16:38,846
uh, passed away at, I believe,
45, when it was 1938.
372
00:16:38,848 --> 00:16:43,150
She had suffered
a acute thyroid condition
373
00:16:43,152 --> 00:16:44,452
that then inflamed
her heart.
374
00:16:44,454 --> 00:16:47,321
And she was dead
within matter of a week.
375
00:16:47,323 --> 00:16:49,089
Now, did she die
in the building?
376
00:16:49,091 --> 00:16:52,126
Yes. She did,
upstairs in the apartment.
377
00:16:52,128 --> 00:16:53,594
Okay.
So that's one.
378
00:16:53,596 --> 00:16:55,095
Who was the second?
379
00:16:55,097 --> 00:16:56,831
The second was my father.
380
00:16:56,833 --> 00:16:58,732
Uh, he had suffered
two heart attacks.
381
00:16:58,734 --> 00:17:01,535
And his third heart attack
proved to be fatal.
382
00:17:01,537 --> 00:17:03,237
He actually died
in the bathroom
383
00:17:03,239 --> 00:17:05,639
of the funeral home,
upstairs in the apartment.
384
00:17:05,641 --> 00:17:07,741
- And how old was he?
-41.
385
00:17:07,743 --> 00:17:08,976
I have a photo
of him here
386
00:17:08,978 --> 00:17:12,913
with my mother
and my oldest brother.
387
00:17:12,915 --> 00:17:14,849
And the last death
in the family
388
00:17:14,851 --> 00:17:16,951
that was way too young
was my brother, David.
389
00:17:16,953 --> 00:17:19,587
- Ah, you're kidding.
- Uh, he passed away at 28.
390
00:17:19,589 --> 00:17:21,689
Uh, but again,
of a heart condition.
391
00:17:23,726 --> 00:17:26,060
What about your grandfather
in all this?
392
00:17:26,062 --> 00:17:28,729
Um, my grandfather,
until the early '70s,
393
00:17:28,731 --> 00:17:30,931
was still active
in the funeral business,
394
00:17:30,933 --> 00:17:34,401
at which point,
old age was setting in.
395
00:17:34,403 --> 00:17:36,103
Uh, and in '75,
396
00:17:36,105 --> 00:17:37,304
they put him
in a nursing home.
397
00:17:37,306 --> 00:17:39,306
And within 2 months,
he passed.
398
00:17:39,308 --> 00:17:40,474
Geez. Okay.
399
00:17:40,476 --> 00:17:42,209
So how old was he at
the time of his death?
400
00:17:42,211 --> 00:17:44,211
Do we know?
-86.
401
00:17:48,484 --> 00:17:51,218
I'm seeing
the old-young man again.
402
00:17:51,220 --> 00:17:55,589
I think he was probably
in his 70s when he died.
403
00:17:55,591 --> 00:17:58,392
I want to say he died, like,
in the '80s or '90s.
404
00:17:58,394 --> 00:17:59,827
So what he's showing me
probably, like,
405
00:17:59,829 --> 00:18:03,731
from the 1940s or '50s.
406
00:18:03,733 --> 00:18:07,902
The old-young man, I think,
lived here at one point in time.
407
00:18:07,904 --> 00:18:11,672
I guess he had a family.
I'm seeing, like,
408
00:18:11,674 --> 00:18:17,411
a dark, uh, space, uh,
like black walls.
409
00:18:17,413 --> 00:18:21,916
And he's doing stuff to women.
410
00:18:21,918 --> 00:18:23,651
And I don't know
if it's okay or not.
411
00:18:26,322 --> 00:18:29,089
It just seems bad to me.
412
00:18:29,091 --> 00:18:31,792
So, Mike, give me the idea
of how it was set up.
413
00:18:31,794 --> 00:18:34,128
Uh, I know that you guys
lived there as well, right?
414
00:18:34,130 --> 00:18:36,597
The residences
were upstairs.
415
00:18:36,599 --> 00:18:39,333
Uh, the first floor
would've been strictly geared
416
00:18:39,335 --> 00:18:40,701
for the funeral business,
417
00:18:40,703 --> 00:18:43,971
whether it be for the wake, uh,
the funeral ceremony.
418
00:18:43,973 --> 00:18:45,472
There's rooms set aside
419
00:18:45,474 --> 00:18:47,608
that are strictly
for embalming.
420
00:18:47,610 --> 00:18:49,209
Can you even put a number
on the amount
421
00:18:49,211 --> 00:18:50,644
of bodies
that were embalmed and --
422
00:18:50,646 --> 00:18:52,479
and -- and viewed there?
423
00:18:52,481 --> 00:18:55,616
It has to be
in the thousands.
424
00:18:55,618 --> 00:18:57,484
So, Mike, I want to thank you
for sharing this with me.
425
00:18:57,486 --> 00:18:59,353
I mean, this is really
personal stuff. And I --
426
00:18:59,355 --> 00:19:01,322
I appreciate you taking
the time to do that.
427
00:19:01,324 --> 00:19:04,825
There, uh, might be one thing
you would want to look into.
428
00:19:04,827 --> 00:19:07,161
In the '80s,
there was a gentleman
429
00:19:07,163 --> 00:19:09,964
who was attending
his brother's wake,
430
00:19:09,966 --> 00:19:13,000
uh, that suffered a heart attack
in the funeral home.
431
00:19:13,002 --> 00:19:15,369
And I don't know
if he survived or not.
432
00:19:18,341 --> 00:19:22,443
This investigation keeps getting
stranger and stranger.
433
00:19:22,445 --> 00:19:24,511
I'm on my way to meet the woman
whose brother-in-law
434
00:19:24,513 --> 00:19:25,846
had that heart attack right
435
00:19:25,848 --> 00:19:27,781
in the middle
of her husband's wake.
436
00:19:27,783 --> 00:19:30,117
She's agreed to tell me
exactly what happened.
437
00:19:34,523 --> 00:19:35,589
So, Virginia, I appreciate
438
00:19:35,591 --> 00:19:37,124
you taking the time
to talk with me.
439
00:19:37,126 --> 00:19:38,792
Um, I know
it's been a long time.
440
00:19:38,794 --> 00:19:40,461
But I want to extend
my condolences
441
00:19:40,463 --> 00:19:41,729
on your
husband's passing.
442
00:19:41,731 --> 00:19:42,930
Thank you.
443
00:19:42,932 --> 00:19:44,632
Um, your husband's name
was Edwin, correct?
444
00:19:44,634 --> 00:19:46,300
Right.
Okay. What can you tell me about him?
445
00:19:46,302 --> 00:19:50,671
Well, he was a --
a very outgoing person.
446
00:19:50,673 --> 00:19:52,006
He liked -- loved people.
447
00:19:52,008 --> 00:19:53,374
He loved parties.
448
00:19:53,376 --> 00:19:55,342
Virginia, when did you guys
wind up getting married?
449
00:19:55,344 --> 00:20:00,280
We had gotten married
in, uh, May of 1961.
450
00:20:00,282 --> 00:20:02,449
- Okay.
- And when we got married,
451
00:20:02,451 --> 00:20:06,120
we moved, uh, next door
to the funeral home.
452
00:20:06,122 --> 00:20:07,321
How long did you guys
live there?
453
00:20:07,323 --> 00:20:09,223
30 years.
We lived there for 30 years.
454
00:20:09,225 --> 00:20:10,557
So were you living there
455
00:20:10,559 --> 00:20:12,259
at the time of, uh,
Edwin's death?
456
00:20:12,261 --> 00:20:13,594
- Yes.
- You were?
457
00:20:13,596 --> 00:20:14,528
Yes, yes.
458
00:20:14,530 --> 00:20:16,263
So, Virginia,
if it's okay with you,
459
00:20:16,265 --> 00:20:17,965
how -- how did Edwin pass?
460
00:20:17,967 --> 00:20:20,534
It was the day
before Mother's Day.
461
00:20:20,536 --> 00:20:22,670
He had a heart attack.
- Okay.
462
00:20:22,672 --> 00:20:24,772
How old was he?
- He was 54.
463
00:20:24,774 --> 00:20:27,107
Okay.
So he was young.
464
00:20:27,109 --> 00:20:28,742
Yes.
Very young.
465
00:20:28,744 --> 00:20:30,344
Very shocking.
466
00:20:30,346 --> 00:20:34,014
We were gonna celebrate
25 years.
467
00:20:34,016 --> 00:20:37,084
And, uh,
the invitations were out.
468
00:20:37,086 --> 00:20:39,520
- Okay.
- And so it shocked everybody
469
00:20:39,522 --> 00:20:40,954
because everybody
had an invitation
470
00:20:40,956 --> 00:20:42,790
to come to our
anniversary party.
471
00:20:42,792 --> 00:20:43,924
And they wound up
coming to a wake.
472
00:20:43,926 --> 00:20:45,225
Mm-hmm.
473
00:20:45,227 --> 00:20:47,661
I know his brother had
a heart attack at the wake.
474
00:20:47,663 --> 00:20:49,163
What can you tell me
about him?
475
00:20:49,165 --> 00:20:52,399
Here's a picture
of Walter.
476
00:20:52,401 --> 00:20:54,301
Walter was sort of
a quiet guy.
477
00:20:54,303 --> 00:20:56,503
But he was
a very good husband
478
00:20:56,505 --> 00:20:58,939
and a very, uh,
hard worker.
479
00:20:58,941 --> 00:21:00,474
So what happened to him?
480
00:21:00,476 --> 00:21:02,309
Walter came to the wake
like everybody else.
481
00:21:02,311 --> 00:21:04,044
There were hundreds
of people there.
482
00:21:04,046 --> 00:21:06,580
And so it was very crowded.
483
00:21:06,582 --> 00:21:10,384
And then, uh, he --
he had a heart attack.
484
00:21:10,386 --> 00:21:12,486
This is Walter's
death certificate.
485
00:21:15,491 --> 00:21:17,691
So according to this,
he was 63 at the time he died.
486
00:21:17,693 --> 00:21:18,792
Right. Right.
487
00:21:18,794 --> 00:21:21,261
That's a shame.
I'm sorry to hear that.
488
00:21:25,334 --> 00:21:27,134
Yeah. So a guy died
from a heart attack.
489
00:21:27,136 --> 00:21:30,571
Apparently, he's shoved
somewhere where they keep them.
490
00:21:30,573 --> 00:21:34,174
Where is he?
491
00:21:34,176 --> 00:21:35,642
He's in the special place.
492
00:21:35,644 --> 00:21:37,444
Okay.
493
00:21:37,446 --> 00:21:39,480
I think they've gotten
a little demented,
494
00:21:39,482 --> 00:21:43,317
um, and angry.
495
00:21:43,319 --> 00:21:45,853
The old-young man
and the cat thing
496
00:21:45,855 --> 00:21:48,589
are keeping the dead people
497
00:21:48,591 --> 00:21:51,258
in the basement trapped.
498
00:21:51,260 --> 00:21:55,929
Dead people, uh,
are now collecting,
499
00:21:55,931 --> 00:22:01,135
um, newly deceased
individual's souls.
500
00:22:01,137 --> 00:22:03,103
Any idea why
they are doing that?
501
00:22:03,105 --> 00:22:05,606
Revenge.
502
00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:12,212
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503
00:22:12,214 --> 00:22:14,114
unexplained activity
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504
00:22:14,116 --> 00:22:17,184
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505
00:22:17,186 --> 00:22:18,552
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506
00:22:18,554 --> 00:22:19,686
and we'll help if we can.
507
00:22:28,089 --> 00:22:30,055
So far, I've got
at least four people
508
00:22:30,057 --> 00:22:31,991
who died of a heart attack
in the building,
509
00:22:31,993 --> 00:22:33,459
all of them young.
510
00:22:33,461 --> 00:22:35,961
Plus, the place used
to be a funeral home.
511
00:22:35,963 --> 00:22:38,564
So thousands of bodies
came through.
512
00:22:38,566 --> 00:22:40,399
This place has seen
a lot of death.
513
00:22:40,401 --> 00:22:43,402
But I want to see
if there's anything else.
514
00:22:43,404 --> 00:22:46,171
Searching for old records,
I find Anne Noble,
515
00:22:46,173 --> 00:22:48,841
the original property
owner's wife.
516
00:22:48,843 --> 00:22:51,777
Turns out, Anne died
under mysterious circumstances,
517
00:22:51,779 --> 00:22:55,914
either from a murder
or a suicide.
518
00:22:55,916 --> 00:22:57,816
I'm heading over to meet
with a local genealogist
519
00:22:57,818 --> 00:22:59,285
who says justice,
in this case,
520
00:22:59,287 --> 00:23:01,153
may have never been served.
521
00:23:06,661 --> 00:23:08,494
Jeanne, I appreciate
you helping me out
522
00:23:08,496 --> 00:23:09,695
with this case.
523
00:23:09,697 --> 00:23:12,364
Before we get to the suspicious
death of this woman,
524
00:23:12,366 --> 00:23:14,466
what were you able to find
out about the family?
525
00:23:14,468 --> 00:23:17,236
Major Noble was 22
526
00:23:17,238 --> 00:23:20,939
when he immigrated to
the United States from England.
527
00:23:20,941 --> 00:23:24,410
He's in the Chicago area
in the early 1840s
528
00:23:24,412 --> 00:23:27,179
with his wife, Anne,
and two children.
529
00:23:27,181 --> 00:23:30,749
Okay. So when does he acquire
my client's property?
530
00:23:30,751 --> 00:23:36,455
In 1843, he acquires
160 acres of land.
531
00:23:36,457 --> 00:23:39,725
It's primarily prairie land
that hasn't been cultivated.
532
00:23:39,727 --> 00:23:41,026
And he's a farmer.
533
00:23:41,028 --> 00:23:44,863
He also operated
a tavern on that land.
534
00:23:44,865 --> 00:23:46,131
Okay.
So, Jeanne,
535
00:23:46,133 --> 00:23:47,700
take me through
what happened with Anne.
536
00:23:47,702 --> 00:23:48,701
What were
the circumstances?
537
00:23:48,703 --> 00:23:50,569
Well, in 1845,
538
00:23:50,571 --> 00:23:54,406
she was found dead
in her bed, uh,
539
00:23:54,408 --> 00:23:57,810
with a long
cotton cloth tied
540
00:23:57,812 --> 00:24:00,546
around her neck.
- Okay.
541
00:24:00,548 --> 00:24:03,582
So what'd they say
happened to her?
542
00:24:03,584 --> 00:24:06,285
Well, they held
a coroner's inquest.
543
00:24:06,287 --> 00:24:09,521
But they actually failed
to make a decision.
544
00:24:09,523 --> 00:24:13,826
What they said was that
it was death by strangulation
545
00:24:13,828 --> 00:24:16,061
either at her own hand
546
00:24:16,063 --> 00:24:19,098
or at the hand
of an unknown person.
547
00:24:19,100 --> 00:24:20,566
All right.
So they're basically
548
00:24:20,568 --> 00:24:22,167
saying
she was either murdered
549
00:24:22,169 --> 00:24:24,636
or she committed suicide.
What about the husband?
550
00:24:24,638 --> 00:24:26,605
They ever question him?
- No.
551
00:24:26,607 --> 00:24:28,640
I don't think it's a suicide
'cause, in my experience,
552
00:24:28,642 --> 00:24:31,643
I've never seen anybody
strangle themselves to death,
553
00:24:31,645 --> 00:24:32,978
you know, laying down
in a bed.
554
00:24:32,980 --> 00:24:35,447
So I'm leaning
90% homicide,
555
00:24:35,449 --> 00:24:37,449
10% suicide
that was covered up.
556
00:24:37,451 --> 00:24:39,485
And whether the husband did it
or not, I'm not sure.
557
00:24:39,487 --> 00:24:41,086
I'm curious what
your thoughts are.
558
00:24:41,088 --> 00:24:43,655
That's really difficult
to say.
559
00:24:43,657 --> 00:24:45,023
This was a tavern.
560
00:24:45,025 --> 00:24:47,393
So you had people
that you didn't know
561
00:24:47,395 --> 00:24:49,428
coming through the household.
- All right.
562
00:24:49,430 --> 00:24:50,963
So it -- it's basically
all speculation.
563
00:24:50,965 --> 00:24:53,599
But anything's possible.
And it's still an open case.
564
00:24:53,601 --> 00:24:55,267
It's still a mystery.
565
00:24:55,269 --> 00:24:57,770
Okay.
566
00:25:01,242 --> 00:25:03,742
I don't like this.
567
00:25:05,813 --> 00:25:10,215
I'm seeing, like,
a dead girl in here.
568
00:25:10,217 --> 00:25:13,252
And she seems to be
trapped in this room.
569
00:25:13,254 --> 00:25:15,354
She's in her 20s.
570
00:25:15,356 --> 00:25:16,755
I don't know
if she killed herself
571
00:25:16,757 --> 00:25:19,057
or if somebody killed her.
572
00:25:21,495 --> 00:25:24,029
She does say that she didn't
want to live anymore,
573
00:25:24,031 --> 00:25:26,532
that everything was too hard.
574
00:25:26,534 --> 00:25:29,168
But her heart goes.
Her heart goes.
575
00:25:29,170 --> 00:25:33,839
I'm gonna say she --
she, uh, killed herself.
576
00:25:33,841 --> 00:25:36,608
She said, "Well, I don't
go out there because,
577
00:25:36,610 --> 00:25:39,344
have you seen it?
It's terrifying."
578
00:25:39,346 --> 00:25:42,080
And that's in reference
to the dead people
579
00:25:42,082 --> 00:25:43,849
being trapped here.
- Okay.
580
00:25:43,851 --> 00:25:46,885
She doesn't want to
get put down in there.
581
00:25:54,228 --> 00:25:57,029
I encountered several
disturbing things on my walk.
582
00:25:57,031 --> 00:25:58,263
But the group of dead people
583
00:25:58,265 --> 00:25:59,932
in the basement
surrounding a man
584
00:25:59,934 --> 00:26:03,702
who had a heart attack
had me the most concerned.
585
00:26:03,704 --> 00:26:09,808
Up towards the entrance,
there was a fuzzy mass.
586
00:26:09,810 --> 00:26:12,311
And it's really dark.
587
00:26:12,313 --> 00:26:14,379
And there's a group
of dead people
588
00:26:14,381 --> 00:26:17,449
that are standing
at the bottom of the stairs.
589
00:26:17,451 --> 00:26:20,619
They really want to leave.
590
00:26:20,621 --> 00:26:22,688
And they feel trapped.
591
00:26:26,861 --> 00:26:28,961
Amy,
is this what you saw?
592
00:26:28,963 --> 00:26:30,963
Yes.
593
00:26:51,277 --> 00:26:54,178
Now that Amy and I have
completed our investigations,
594
00:26:54,180 --> 00:26:56,280
we're ready to reveal
our findings to each other
595
00:26:56,282 --> 00:26:58,849
and our clients
for the first time.
596
00:26:58,851 --> 00:27:00,951
Amy, you probably didn't
realize it during your walk.
597
00:27:00,953 --> 00:27:03,554
But, obviously,
this is a tattoo parlor.
598
00:27:03,556 --> 00:27:06,324
This is Neal.
He works here.
599
00:27:06,326 --> 00:27:08,292
And this is Chris,
who owns the place.
600
00:27:08,294 --> 00:27:09,560
Activity's bad.
601
00:27:09,562 --> 00:27:11,595
And they're worried
for everybody's safety.
602
00:27:11,597 --> 00:27:14,131
But that's not the real reason
we were called in.
603
00:27:14,133 --> 00:27:15,966
We're really here
because Chris had made
604
00:27:15,968 --> 00:27:17,568
a promise to his best friend.
605
00:27:17,570 --> 00:27:18,836
And I'll leave it
at that for now
606
00:27:18,838 --> 00:27:22,340
until I know a little bit
more about your walk.
607
00:27:22,342 --> 00:27:26,844
I was upstairs.
And I went into the bigger room.
608
00:27:26,846 --> 00:27:33,684
And I saw this black mass.
609
00:27:33,686 --> 00:27:36,120
And it was kind of fuzzy.
610
00:27:36,122 --> 00:27:37,888
This thing is not good.
611
00:27:37,890 --> 00:27:39,490
It -- it definitely
affects the living
612
00:27:39,492 --> 00:27:41,392
in a very negative way.
613
00:27:41,394 --> 00:27:44,128
The biggest thing that I got
is that you would feel
614
00:27:44,130 --> 00:27:45,830
like you were being
watched by this thing
615
00:27:45,832 --> 00:27:48,165
because
it's always around.
616
00:27:48,167 --> 00:27:51,268
And I think,
all around the place,
617
00:27:51,270 --> 00:27:53,838
you would hear, like,
scratching noises,
618
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:55,506
um, a strange growl,
like,
619
00:27:55,508 --> 00:27:57,341
as if it was coming
from a cat, though, you know.
620
00:27:57,343 --> 00:27:59,043
But it's not a cat.
621
00:27:59,045 --> 00:28:00,711
I was able to figure out,
622
00:28:00,713 --> 00:28:04,148
towards the end of my walk,
that this entity was,
623
00:28:04,150 --> 00:28:06,016
in fact,
human at one point
624
00:28:06,018 --> 00:28:11,088
and would have been on
the premises pre-1940s
625
00:28:11,090 --> 00:28:13,691
and was a bad man.
626
00:28:13,693 --> 00:28:15,426
Well, feeling watched,
you and I talked about.
627
00:28:15,428 --> 00:28:17,061
Yeah.
The other night,
628
00:28:17,063 --> 00:28:18,629
I had some stuff to do.
629
00:28:18,631 --> 00:28:20,898
And I felt like something
was staring at me from behind.
630
00:28:20,900 --> 00:28:23,401
- Mm-hmm.
- So I turned around, looked.
631
00:28:23,403 --> 00:28:25,469
Nobody there.
632
00:28:25,471 --> 00:28:26,837
I can attest to that.
633
00:28:26,839 --> 00:28:29,273
I will stay late sometimes.
634
00:28:29,275 --> 00:28:31,275
And you can feel
someone looking at you.
635
00:28:31,277 --> 00:28:32,510
And you turn around.
636
00:28:32,512 --> 00:28:34,545
And sure enough,
nothing's there.
637
00:28:34,547 --> 00:28:37,181
Neal, you talked to me
about hearing strange noises.
638
00:28:37,183 --> 00:28:38,849
Right?
- Uh, yeah.
639
00:28:38,851 --> 00:28:41,185
I'll be sitting there,
tattooing someone.
640
00:28:41,187 --> 00:28:43,587
And it sounds
like someone's
641
00:28:43,589 --> 00:28:47,425
punching the floor
underneath my feet.
642
00:28:47,427 --> 00:28:50,428
And I've gone down there.
There's nothing there.
643
00:28:50,430 --> 00:28:53,364
I've had customers
even ask me,
644
00:28:53,366 --> 00:28:55,299
"What's that noise?"
645
00:28:55,301 --> 00:28:58,836
And then, uh, basically,
we just tell 'em,
646
00:28:58,838 --> 00:29:00,704
"It's, uh,
it's the ghost."
647
00:29:04,243 --> 00:29:06,444
So what else?
648
00:29:06,446 --> 00:29:09,280
So then I went down
to the basement.
649
00:29:09,282 --> 00:29:15,453
And what I encountered
was a lot of dead people.
650
00:29:17,657 --> 00:29:22,893
And they are very sad,
very depressed and angry.
651
00:29:22,895 --> 00:29:26,063
And I got different time
periods with them, uh,
652
00:29:26,065 --> 00:29:27,765
because of their clothing.
653
00:29:27,767 --> 00:29:29,767
This is,
like, '20s, '30s, '40s.
654
00:29:29,769 --> 00:29:30,868
Right.
655
00:29:30,870 --> 00:29:32,770
And they were
all dressed very well.
656
00:29:32,772 --> 00:29:35,573
I have a pretty good idea
what you saw, uh, down there.
657
00:29:35,575 --> 00:29:39,176
From 1922 to 2001, uh,
the building was a funeral home.
658
00:29:39,178 --> 00:29:41,846
- Ooh.
- It was a family-run business,
659
00:29:41,848 --> 00:29:44,648
uh, started by a guy
named John Klemundt.
660
00:29:44,650 --> 00:29:45,983
I actually spoke
to a family member
661
00:29:45,985 --> 00:29:47,818
who worked here for 25 years.
662
00:29:47,820 --> 00:29:50,054
And he gave me this picture
663
00:29:50,056 --> 00:29:53,591
of when it was a funeral parlor.
664
00:29:53,593 --> 00:29:56,760
And they lived in
the apartment upstairs.
665
00:29:56,762 --> 00:30:00,431
He told me thousands
of bodies came through here.
666
00:30:00,433 --> 00:30:02,600
Yeah. They would
embalm the bodies here.
667
00:30:02,602 --> 00:30:04,502
Uh, and they held the wakes
and the funerals
668
00:30:04,504 --> 00:30:08,272
right here at least
almost every single day,
669
00:30:08,274 --> 00:30:11,575
which is maybe when you saw
dead people all dressed up.
670
00:30:11,577 --> 00:30:13,811
Interesting.
671
00:30:13,813 --> 00:30:14,845
Now, the dead people,
672
00:30:14,847 --> 00:30:16,280
do they do anything
to the living?
673
00:30:16,282 --> 00:30:17,515
Yeah.
674
00:30:17,517 --> 00:30:20,351
If the living
were to spend
675
00:30:20,353 --> 00:30:23,120
a lot of time downstairs,
676
00:30:23,122 --> 00:30:25,022
the living would feel
that depression
677
00:30:25,024 --> 00:30:27,157
and possibly suicidal.
678
00:30:29,328 --> 00:30:33,764
I think that the living
would see these people as,
679
00:30:33,766 --> 00:30:36,600
like,
black shadow figures.
680
00:30:36,602 --> 00:30:39,837
And I think because
they're so physical that
681
00:30:39,839 --> 00:30:41,472
if the living
were down there,
682
00:30:41,474 --> 00:30:42,973
I actually think
that people would feel
683
00:30:42,975 --> 00:30:45,676
like they were
being bumped into.
684
00:30:45,678 --> 00:30:50,881
If you go down there, you feel,
uh, pressure on your shoulders.
685
00:30:50,883 --> 00:30:53,183
And it kind of
envelopes you.
686
00:30:53,185 --> 00:30:54,652
And it's pretty
uncomfortable.
687
00:30:54,654 --> 00:30:57,755
- Oh
- Yeah.
688
00:30:57,757 --> 00:30:59,456
Everybody runs up
those stairs.
689
00:30:59,458 --> 00:31:01,325
And you guys don't look
like you scare easy.
690
00:31:01,327 --> 00:31:03,093
Nah.
I don't scare easy at all.
691
00:31:03,095 --> 00:31:04,528
But a shadow figure,
692
00:31:04,530 --> 00:31:06,764
I've seen it a couple
times here and there.
693
00:31:06,766 --> 00:31:10,034
But Neal sees it
on a daily basis.
694
00:31:10,036 --> 00:31:12,536
I see it at least
four times a week.
695
00:31:12,538 --> 00:31:13,871
It's a void.
696
00:31:13,873 --> 00:31:17,041
I wouldn't even call it black.
It's empty.
697
00:31:17,043 --> 00:31:19,610
So the thing about
the people downstairs
698
00:31:19,612 --> 00:31:23,113
is that they feel trapped.
699
00:31:23,115 --> 00:31:26,183
Their attitude has become,
700
00:31:26,185 --> 00:31:29,486
"If we're stuck here,
y'all are gonna be, too."
701
00:31:32,124 --> 00:31:34,992
So anybody
who would die here
702
00:31:34,994 --> 00:31:38,295
now would become
trapped by them.
703
00:31:38,297 --> 00:31:40,164
The other thing I got,
I was walking up
704
00:31:40,166 --> 00:31:41,799
to the top
of those stairs.
705
00:31:41,801 --> 00:31:45,603
And there was, uh, a male
who came in really quickly.
706
00:31:45,605 --> 00:31:47,304
And he had a heart attack.
707
00:31:47,306 --> 00:31:49,306
And he died.
708
00:31:49,308 --> 00:31:51,475
And he is their first,
709
00:31:51,477 --> 00:31:54,812
like, victim as far
as being trapped.
710
00:31:54,814 --> 00:31:56,814
So they're holding him
here
711
00:31:56,816 --> 00:32:00,050
just like they've
been held here.
712
00:32:00,052 --> 00:32:05,889
And so I had a sketch done
of what I saw.
713
00:32:05,891 --> 00:32:08,192
Any idea when this guy
had a heart attack?
714
00:32:08,194 --> 00:32:10,594
In the last 20--
20 years, I guess.
715
00:32:23,576 --> 00:32:26,577
So these dressed-up people
are the dead in the basement?
716
00:32:26,579 --> 00:32:28,612
Yes.
717
00:32:28,614 --> 00:32:31,148
And they've taken this guy
who had a heart attack?
718
00:32:31,150 --> 00:32:33,350
Yes.
719
00:32:33,352 --> 00:32:36,186
I don't think I'll be looking
at the stairs the same again.
720
00:32:36,188 --> 00:32:38,555
Never again.
721
00:32:38,557 --> 00:32:40,958
Well, obviously, we --
we need to talk about Richie.
722
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:42,726
- Yes.
- Um, now,
723
00:32:42,728 --> 00:32:45,095
that's Chris' best friend
I was telling you about,
724
00:32:45,097 --> 00:32:46,563
who he made a promise to.
725
00:32:46,565 --> 00:32:48,832
This is a photo
of Richie right here.
726
00:32:52,238 --> 00:32:54,304
He was
a very charismatic guy.
727
00:32:54,306 --> 00:32:56,940
He was always very open,
very gracious.
728
00:32:56,942 --> 00:32:58,242
If he could do
something for you,
729
00:32:58,244 --> 00:32:59,176
you never even had to ask.
730
00:32:59,178 --> 00:33:01,078
He would just do it
for you.
731
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:04,381
Do me a favor and take
Amy through Richie's death.
732
00:33:04,383 --> 00:33:06,984
Richie was celebrating
his 37th birthday.
733
00:33:06,986 --> 00:33:08,986
He used to live upstairs.
734
00:33:08,988 --> 00:33:12,356
He went to sleep,
did not wake up.
735
00:33:12,358 --> 00:33:13,724
He had
a mild heart attack.
736
00:33:13,726 --> 00:33:16,860
He just passed away
in his sleep.
737
00:33:16,862 --> 00:33:20,030
Now, do me a favor and tell her
about that promise you made.
738
00:33:20,032 --> 00:33:22,766
When he passed away,
his son was 4 years old.
739
00:33:22,768 --> 00:33:25,536
- Oh, man.
- We made a promise to his son
740
00:33:25,538 --> 00:33:29,573
and to his son's mother
that we would reopen this shop.
741
00:33:29,575 --> 00:33:32,142
And in any way,
we would help.
742
00:33:32,144 --> 00:33:34,411
Here's a picture of Odin,
Richie's son.
743
00:33:34,413 --> 00:33:35,946
He's, what, about 14?
744
00:33:35,948 --> 00:33:38,949
- Yes. He just turned 14.
- He's a good kid.
745
00:33:38,951 --> 00:33:41,852
Now, the thing is,
when he turns 18,
746
00:33:41,854 --> 00:33:43,087
Chris is ready to turn it over.
747
00:33:43,089 --> 00:33:44,488
But with what's
going on here,
748
00:33:44,490 --> 00:33:46,256
he don't know
if he could do that.
749
00:33:46,258 --> 00:33:47,791
And that's the reason
we're here.
750
00:33:47,793 --> 00:33:50,994
So for the last 10 years,
that's why we've been here.
751
00:33:50,996 --> 00:33:52,763
That's why this place
means so much to us
752
00:33:52,765 --> 00:33:54,164
'cause this was Richie's.
753
00:33:54,166 --> 00:33:56,433
This was our home.
754
00:33:56,435 --> 00:33:59,336
Now, is this Richie?
755
00:33:59,338 --> 00:34:01,672
Well, more than likely.
756
00:34:04,643 --> 00:34:06,844
That just kind of
puts a little pit in --
757
00:34:06,846 --> 00:34:08,378
in my stomach.
- Yeah.
758
00:34:08,380 --> 00:34:10,748
Now, you mentioned
that these people claim
759
00:34:10,750 --> 00:34:12,316
anyone who dies here, right?
760
00:34:12,318 --> 00:34:14,084
- Yes.
- I got to tell you,
761
00:34:14,086 --> 00:34:17,688
I've never seen so many people
die young in one building.
762
00:34:17,690 --> 00:34:20,557
The Klemundts, the family
who owned the funeral parlor,
763
00:34:20,559 --> 00:34:24,228
they lost three family members
here under the age of 50.
764
00:34:24,230 --> 00:34:26,497
The first was Anna Klemundt,
the wife of John,
765
00:34:26,499 --> 00:34:27,865
the guy who originally
bought the place
766
00:34:27,867 --> 00:34:29,900
and opened it up
as a funeral parlor.
767
00:34:29,902 --> 00:34:32,736
She died in 1938
of a heart attack.
768
00:34:32,738 --> 00:34:35,539
Uh, she's about
45 years old.
769
00:34:35,541 --> 00:34:39,143
The next death was her
and John's son, Richard,
770
00:34:39,145 --> 00:34:41,211
who died after
his third heart attack
771
00:34:41,213 --> 00:34:43,781
in the upstairs bathroom
in 1963.
772
00:34:43,783 --> 00:34:45,949
- Mm.
- He was 41 when he died.
773
00:34:45,951 --> 00:34:48,986
Now, there's a third one
who was John's grandson,
774
00:34:48,988 --> 00:34:51,655
David, who died
of a heart attack in 1984.
775
00:34:51,657 --> 00:34:52,956
So that's another
heart attack?
776
00:34:52,958 --> 00:34:54,892
- Right.
- Mm.
777
00:34:54,894 --> 00:34:57,494
Um, he was only 28.
778
00:34:57,496 --> 00:34:58,929
Now, it gets worse.
779
00:34:58,931 --> 00:35:01,398
In 1986, they were
holding a funeral
780
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,535
for a dead guy
named Edwin Cudecki.
781
00:35:04,537 --> 00:35:08,105
He died from, of course,
a heart attack.
782
00:35:08,107 --> 00:35:10,307
Edwin's brother, Walter...
783
00:35:10,309 --> 00:35:12,509
Edwin's brother,
Walter?
784
00:35:12,511 --> 00:35:16,113
...came here to do visitation
785
00:35:16,115 --> 00:35:17,881
with his brother at the wake
786
00:35:17,883 --> 00:35:21,285
and had a heart attack
right here.
787
00:35:21,287 --> 00:35:23,453
I hope you're ready
for this. Okay.
788
00:35:23,455 --> 00:35:27,191
One day, Richie came down
to the front steps...
789
00:35:27,193 --> 00:35:29,993
- Mm-hmm.
- ...got into an argument
790
00:35:29,995 --> 00:35:31,461
with an apparition.
791
00:35:31,463 --> 00:35:34,464
The apparition tells him,
"My name's Walter.
792
00:35:34,466 --> 00:35:35,899
What are you doing here?"
793
00:35:35,901 --> 00:35:38,635
Richie gets pushed,
goes head over heels
794
00:35:38,637 --> 00:35:40,804
down those 15
to 20 metal steps.
795
00:35:40,806 --> 00:35:42,105
- Yeah.
- Oh, my God.
796
00:35:42,107 --> 00:35:44,741
- And he landed on the ending.
- Now, tell me the truth.
797
00:35:44,743 --> 00:35:46,510
Did you know about
this guy, Walter?
798
00:35:46,512 --> 00:35:47,911
- No.
- You didn't?
799
00:35:47,913 --> 00:35:49,613
No.
I -- I had no idea.
800
00:35:49,615 --> 00:35:51,448
But as for the rest
of all these heart attacks
801
00:35:51,450 --> 00:35:53,016
and this guy, Walter,
that died of a heart --
802
00:35:53,018 --> 00:35:55,786
heart attack, heart attack,
heart attack, heart attack...
803
00:35:55,788 --> 00:35:57,788
I'm really worried
about you guys.
804
00:36:01,427 --> 00:36:05,863
So the person that I'm
most concerned about
805
00:36:05,865 --> 00:36:09,867
is a nasty,
old man that I encountered.
806
00:36:09,869 --> 00:36:12,603
The way I think
he would affect the living,
807
00:36:12,605 --> 00:36:13,804
uh, would be,
808
00:36:13,806 --> 00:36:15,072
uh, women might feel
809
00:36:15,074 --> 00:36:16,473
like they're
being caressed.
810
00:36:16,475 --> 00:36:18,475
Not a nice caressed.
A sexually aggressive.
811
00:36:18,477 --> 00:36:20,644
- Kind of like a grope?
- Yeah.
812
00:36:20,646 --> 00:36:23,580
He sees men as a threat.
813
00:36:23,582 --> 00:36:25,215
I saw him trying to cause
814
00:36:25,217 --> 00:36:28,185
physical pain to men,
in particular.
815
00:36:28,187 --> 00:36:29,586
So this guy that
you're worried about,
816
00:36:29,588 --> 00:36:31,755
you think he's the one
that might have shoved
817
00:36:31,757 --> 00:36:33,390
Richie down the stairs?
818
00:36:33,392 --> 00:36:36,159
Oh, yeah.
I could see that.
819
00:36:36,161 --> 00:36:38,428
You get anything about
this guy while he was alive?
820
00:36:38,430 --> 00:36:41,164
I thought that he lived here
at one time.
821
00:36:41,166 --> 00:36:45,168
He kept showing himself
at the age of, like,
822
00:36:45,170 --> 00:36:49,006
30 and then
at the age of, like, 70.
823
00:36:49,008 --> 00:36:51,775
I think
that he died recently,
824
00:36:51,777 --> 00:36:53,477
like,
in the '80s or '90s.
825
00:36:53,479 --> 00:36:57,080
The things
that I saw him doing,
826
00:36:57,082 --> 00:36:59,816
uh, when he was younger
and alive,
827
00:36:59,818 --> 00:37:02,019
uh, to women, like,
I actually was, like,
828
00:37:02,021 --> 00:37:04,288
"Is this consensual
or not?"
829
00:37:04,290 --> 00:37:06,223
Now, it's probably not the guy
you're -- you're talking about.
830
00:37:06,225 --> 00:37:07,591
But the only one that fits
831
00:37:07,593 --> 00:37:09,259
the time frame
is the original guy
832
00:37:09,261 --> 00:37:11,228
that owned this place,
John Klemundt.
833
00:37:11,230 --> 00:37:12,896
Now, this guy didn't die
in the '80s or '90s.
834
00:37:12,898 --> 00:37:15,265
He -- he died in 1975.
835
00:37:15,267 --> 00:37:16,900
But he was 86 at the time.
836
00:37:16,902 --> 00:37:19,002
I actually got a photo of him.
837
00:37:23,842 --> 00:37:26,476
The only thing he did
to women was embalm them.
838
00:37:26,478 --> 00:37:27,611
Let me ask you a question.
839
00:37:27,613 --> 00:37:29,446
Is it possible you could
have misinterpreted, uh,
840
00:37:29,448 --> 00:37:32,282
embalming somebody as doing
something nasty to women?
841
00:37:32,284 --> 00:37:35,218
It could be.
That makes sense.
842
00:37:35,220 --> 00:37:37,554
Okay.
So based on this picture,
843
00:37:37,556 --> 00:37:40,023
any chance the guy you saw
could be John Klemundt?
844
00:37:40,025 --> 00:37:42,960
That's extremely likely.
845
00:37:46,465 --> 00:37:48,465
The biggest concern
is this guy
846
00:37:48,467 --> 00:37:51,435
and the fuzzy thing.
847
00:37:51,437 --> 00:37:55,238
They said that they were
working together,
848
00:37:55,240 --> 00:37:58,608
trapping the dead here,
these other dead people.
849
00:37:58,610 --> 00:38:04,448
And the dead people downstairs
are becoming spiteful.
850
00:38:04,450 --> 00:38:05,882
So now they are like,
851
00:38:05,884 --> 00:38:10,187
"If we're trapped, y'all are
gonna be trapped, too."
852
00:38:10,189 --> 00:38:13,690
So Klemundt and this fuzzy thing
are causing the heart attacks?
853
00:38:13,692 --> 00:38:15,058
Correct.
854
00:38:15,060 --> 00:38:18,595
For such a great, nice,
caring, gentle giant
855
00:38:18,597 --> 00:38:21,798
of a man to be
stuck is horrible.
856
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,601
This is not
a good place.
857
00:38:24,603 --> 00:38:27,637
It's just gonna get worse
and worse and worse.
858
00:38:27,639 --> 00:38:30,874
One of y'all will probably
have a heart attack,
859
00:38:30,876 --> 00:38:32,009
which then means
860
00:38:32,011 --> 00:38:35,946
you're putting his son
into harm's way.
861
00:38:35,948 --> 00:38:38,515
So that's not good.
862
00:38:53,007 --> 00:38:55,641
Now, Chris, I know you're
a stand-up guy.
863
00:38:55,643 --> 00:38:57,109
And you brought us in here
to do the right thing
864
00:38:57,111 --> 00:38:59,778
by your best friend.
I got to tell you,
865
00:38:59,780 --> 00:39:01,513
They don't make guys
like you anymore.
866
00:39:01,515 --> 00:39:02,982
Thank you.
867
00:39:02,984 --> 00:39:05,551
Now, to see if you can safely
hand this place over to Odin,
868
00:39:05,553 --> 00:39:07,853
I'm gonna turn it over to Amy.
869
00:39:09,991 --> 00:39:13,292
Here's the thing.
Now, you love him.
870
00:39:13,294 --> 00:39:15,961
And you love Richie.
- Yes. Very much.
871
00:39:15,963 --> 00:39:18,764
Right. And you're doing
the right thing
872
00:39:18,766 --> 00:39:22,067
by supporting him
and his mom.
873
00:39:22,069 --> 00:39:24,703
But you have to do
more of the right thing.
874
00:39:24,705 --> 00:39:25,971
Okay.
875
00:39:25,973 --> 00:39:29,174
So you've got all these people
who are trapped.
876
00:39:29,176 --> 00:39:32,845
You've got this
lunatic trapping them
877
00:39:32,847 --> 00:39:35,614
and giving them heart attacks,
which puts, you know,
878
00:39:35,616 --> 00:39:39,952
all of you guys here
at risk as well.
879
00:39:39,954 --> 00:39:42,521
They need to be released
880
00:39:42,523 --> 00:39:45,491
so everybody can be
at peace and happy.
881
00:39:45,493 --> 00:39:47,426
So here's what's
gonna be done.
882
00:39:47,428 --> 00:39:49,928
You're going
to find a priest
883
00:39:49,930 --> 00:39:53,165
who is going
to do an exorcism.
884
00:39:53,167 --> 00:39:55,301
You're gonna give him
the keys to the place.
885
00:39:55,303 --> 00:39:59,204
And you're gonna shut this place
down for 72 hours.
886
00:39:59,206 --> 00:40:00,839
You're not gonna know
when this priest
887
00:40:00,841 --> 00:40:03,108
is gonna come in here
and do his thing.
888
00:40:03,110 --> 00:40:04,943
When he does the exorcism,
889
00:40:04,945 --> 00:40:08,314
he is going
to banish this guy
890
00:40:08,316 --> 00:40:11,383
and the black thing.
891
00:40:11,385 --> 00:40:15,654
Once they're gone,
these people are gonna be happy.
892
00:40:15,656 --> 00:40:18,424
And they're going
to take off.
893
00:40:18,426 --> 00:40:21,060
Why do they need
to shut down for 72 hours?
894
00:40:21,062 --> 00:40:24,963
Because there's such
a strong attachment
895
00:40:24,965 --> 00:40:29,435
to Richie here with
the people that love him,
896
00:40:29,437 --> 00:40:30,936
one of the worries
897
00:40:30,938 --> 00:40:34,206
is that can inadvertently
trap him here.
898
00:40:34,208 --> 00:40:37,042
We want it
to be his decision,
899
00:40:37,044 --> 00:40:40,312
once he's released
from their grip,
900
00:40:40,314 --> 00:40:42,881
his decision what
he's going to do.
901
00:40:42,883 --> 00:40:47,019
No living person
with any feelings
902
00:40:47,021 --> 00:40:49,621
towards Richie
can be here.
903
00:40:52,159 --> 00:40:55,661
It has to be just him.
904
00:40:55,663 --> 00:40:57,363
Richie, I'm never
gonna let go of.
905
00:40:57,365 --> 00:40:59,164
He's -- he's in my heart.
906
00:40:59,166 --> 00:41:01,266
You need to give him
the option to leave.
907
00:41:01,268 --> 00:41:04,069
He's never gonna be gone.
You have a gift.
908
00:41:04,071 --> 00:41:05,371
And you see things
differently than --
909
00:41:05,373 --> 00:41:08,073
than 99.9%
of the world.
910
00:41:08,075 --> 00:41:11,143
We all see things
in our way.
911
00:41:11,145 --> 00:41:13,145
Uh, the bottom line
is Richie needs to get released.
912
00:41:13,147 --> 00:41:15,647
And you need to let go.
913
00:41:17,718 --> 00:41:20,352
I ultimately want
what's best for my friend.
914
00:41:20,354 --> 00:41:22,454
Yes. If that's
what needs to be done,
915
00:41:22,456 --> 00:41:24,289
then that's what needs
to, uh, be done.
916
00:41:24,291 --> 00:41:26,558
And then I'll get past
my own personal,
917
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:30,596
mental and even
emotional stuff on my own.
918
00:41:30,598 --> 00:41:32,431
I understand
how difficult it can be
919
00:41:32,433 --> 00:41:35,134
to let go of a friend
who has passed.
920
00:41:35,136 --> 00:41:37,136
But I believe
if Chris brings in a priest
921
00:41:37,138 --> 00:41:38,904
to perform an exorcism,
922
00:41:38,906 --> 00:41:41,373
the dead that are trapped
will be set free.
923
00:41:41,375 --> 00:41:43,275
And Chris can keep
that promise he made
924
00:41:43,277 --> 00:41:45,477
to the friend he loved so much.
925
00:41:45,527 --> 00:41:50,077
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