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- My name's Matt,
I'm a Brand Manager
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at a backpacking company.
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In my job I interact
with a lot of customers.
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And I find out about
a lot of interesting
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and unique trails
all across the world.
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The Uinta Highline
Trail really stood out
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because it seemed to be
such a uncommon trail.
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- It's really remote,
it's really high.
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Most of the trail's
above 10,000 feet.
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I think it's just
kind of a hidden gem.
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- Just from the little
research that I did.
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And the pictures that I
saw, I knew that this hike
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was gonna be
something spectacular.
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- I didn't know
really a whole lot
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about Utah to be
honest with you.
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I wasn't expecting very much.
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- I expect to be
uncomfortable and in pain.
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- Logistically when you
try to get a lot of people
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in one spot at the same time,
usually something goes wrong.
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And this time Steve's journey
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really became a
comedy of errors.
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- Matt, Will and myself we flew
on one plane and then Benny
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had come in a day earlier and
Steve was coming from Raleigh,
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North Carolina and his
flight didn't make it.
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He was late, he missed
his connection in Denver.
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He stuck there, he had
to change airlines.
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Thank goodness he did arrive
there a few hours late,
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but we were worried.
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We didn't know if
he was gonna be able
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to even come with us
on the hike or not.
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So it was great that
he he got there.
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It wouldn't have been
the same without Steve.
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- These guys, I don't know why
I like them, I really don't.
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So I'm gonna be late
going into Salt Lake City.
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I have no time to go
to a store to buy food.
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And I'm asking them
to buy food for me
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and they're like, no,
I don't have room.
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I don't have time,
I can't do it.
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You're gonna have to starve
to death on the site.
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Well, finally, Will Wood
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My Savior, went out and
bought me a bunch of food
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and I had plenty to
eat on the trail.
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- Fortunately, our shuttle
driver was so gracious.
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He was able to
just wait on Steve
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and that made that a
less stressful event.
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- So basically I'm
a Star Wars nerd,
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especially with the
original trilogy.
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So you've got, Boba
Fett, Mandalorian,
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Imperial Destroyer,
Slave I, TIE Fighter.
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So I have like, a lot
of Star Wars stuff.
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And because of those
tattoos, we could never get
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a ride hitch hiking into town,
we had to walk the whole way.
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- From Salt Lake City,
it was about a four
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to five hour drive.
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It was so cool
because you instantly
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just start to ascend
into the mountains.
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And then you go around
the mountain range.
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So we went through the desert.
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And all we were doing
there was climbing,
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just to see the way
the landscape looked
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as we were approaching the
trail, it was unexpected.
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By the time we arrived
at the trailhead,
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we were already right around
8000 feet or so in elevation.
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We knew at that point just
seeing what it looked like,
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we were in for an
incredible hike.
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- The mountains and the
forests looked beautiful.
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And we all just
camped right there.
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We're really just amped
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to be starting this
journey together.
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- Well look at that spot
right there, nice and flat.
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I think I'm gonna put
my tent right there.
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- Right by the road?
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- Right by the road.
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- Are crazy?
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- That when the car is
coming, you can wonder
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if it's gonna run
you over or not.
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It'll add that little bit
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of excitement to your night.
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- Matt you found
something good back there?
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- Yeah, but it's, he's
gonna say it's good.
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He doesn't wanna walk back so...
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What he says has no relevance
to what's actually up there.
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That's what we've
learned on past hikes.
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- Okay, I'm gonna go
see what I can find.
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- I feel the elevation.
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Just from setting this up,
I can feel it a little bit
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it's a little harder to breathe.
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- Actually I see a trail looks
like a wildlife trail that
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goes between our sites and
some spots where elk have been
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doing their business, there's
a chance that they'll come up
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through our camp tonight
and that'd be cool.
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- Can't wait to see some moose.
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- Lets change
that...You hear that?
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- What is that?
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- Matt said it was an elk.
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- What time do you
think sun rise is?
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- Let's say, somewhere
between00am
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and30am would be a guess.
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But either way, I mean, if
thunderstorms are always
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gonna be a threat
in the afternoon
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getting an early start
is not a bad idea.
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- If we get going at
like six in the morning
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we're gonna be done
at 12 or one o'clock.
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- Well if we get started
at 10am, and then we hike
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through a hailstorm
every day at00pm
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that would also not be fun.
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- Nothing wrong with that.
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- I don't think there's
gunna be hailstorms
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- A $20 bet that we have
two or more hailstorms.
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- Does it actually
have to hail or...
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- It actually has to hail,
like a substantial amount.
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- I will take that bet.
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It's gotta be ice
falling from the sky.
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I mean twice on the same
day doesn't count right?
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- I'm gunna lose
this bet but....
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- I wanna just bet
you some thing.
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- Well, for me my expectations
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for this hike was a
little bit different.
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I started my summer out
hiking the long trail
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that goes through the
Green Mountains of Vermont.
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Once I finished that one,
I went over to California
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through hiked John Muir Trail.
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So I thought this wasn't
gonna be like anything
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magnificent is just
100 miles long.
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Don't ever
underestimate a trail.
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- So today we're gonna
hike about 12 miles.
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We're gonna be in a forest
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most of the time,
so that's good.
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The thing that's not so good
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is there's not
really much water.
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We may have some
water at the end,
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so hopefully we
don't get dehydrated.
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We're gonna start climbing slow
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and then in two more days,
we should get above treeline
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and be above 10,000 feet
almost the whole time.
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- My name is Tom Flanigan,
I'm the Forest Archeologist
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and the Heritage Program Manager
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for the Uinta-Wasatch-Cache
National Forest.
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The Uinta Highline Trail
traversals about 104 miles
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along the backbone of
the Uinta Mountains.
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The eastern terminus
is in McKee Draw
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which is located on the
Ashley National Forest.
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The western terminus
is over by Hayden peak,
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Hayden Pass area near
the Mirror Lake highway.
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The Uintas were designated
as a primitive area
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long before the Wilderness Act.
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So this was identified
early on as a unique place.
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We have a unique topography,
we have a mountain range
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that's unique in its linear
structure going east to west,
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the geology, the history
and its importance
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to the expansion of the West.
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Even in 1935, it was
identified as unique enough
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to be set aside as
a primitive area.
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- The trail itself seems
to be built in sections.
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We've done our
own research here.
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And it was kind of interesting,
the fact that a lot
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of the Forest Service folks
don't have a whole lot
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of idea when the trail
was actually built.
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Doing some of the historic
research we're able
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to put together some of the
different aspects of it.
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And probably the earliest,
identifiable concerted effort
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to make a trail was during the
Civilian Conservation Corps
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era under the new deal and
the Roosevelt administration
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trying to put
everybody back to work.
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A lot of our infrastructure
on the national parks,
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national forests were
created by the CCC.
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And I did find a newspaper
article dating to the 1930s
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talking about some of the
early sections of the trail
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from that Hayden Peak Hayden
pass area being constructed
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by Boy Scout troops and
also members of the CCC.
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So then probably what
happened is then the trail
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was building in sections from
that, and then also maybe
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existing trails had
then got tied into it.
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- Hi you guys!
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- Moooooooo
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- Uh Oh.....
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- Not the wildlife I thought
I was gunna see out here
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- Day one, we were constantly
in and out of meadows
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and forests and the trail
was tough to navigate.
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In fact, for a huge
portion there was actually
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no trail, you were really
just following a route.
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- So the trail was
marked with rock Cairns
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and blazes like ax
places on the trees
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and a lot of it didn't
really have foot tread,
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or if there was foot
tread it was very light.
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And I think we got turned around
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a couple times that first day.
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We had a nice argument over
which was the right trail
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because there was an old trail
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and a new trail that split off.
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- This isn't showing any turns.
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There's a road that
we're supposed to cross
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and we haven't crossed it yet.
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And there's no
junctions on here.
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- All I did was get a file,
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you guys made me the navigator
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I didn't ask to
be the navigator.
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- Yeah, but you didn't
check your file.
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- See up here, the blaze is
old, but on this same trail
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going down before you get
to the...it's brand new.
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- Yeah, let's stick
on the new trail.
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- What do you mean a new trail?
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- No, I'm saying this trail
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has a brand new
blaze at the bottom.
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- Yeah, because
it's going that way.
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- I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
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- I don't wanna get lost.
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- My name is Joe Valesko.
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I started a company
that makes ultralight
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backpacking gear in 2005.
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Since then, I've hiked probably
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over 10,000 long distance miles.
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- Joe's one of the
most interesting
people I've ever met.
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He's one part like
robot in a way.
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At work, he's just an engineer.
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He's kind of emotionless,
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he just wants to do
things a certain way.
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- Problem there is on the other
tent on the prototype tent,
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this piece shouldn't
be this long.
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It's supposed to
be like this long.
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- And then on the other
hand, you've got this guy
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who in Scotland on top of
the second highest mountain
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in Scotland, it's like 60
mile per hour sustained winds,
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we can barely walk.
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And we're like getting
blown all over the place.
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And I look up and the guy's got
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the biggest smile on his face.
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So he's like, one part engineer,
and then one part living
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on the edge, and it's
almost like he's two people.
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- Woooo!!!
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It is straight down.
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- Joe has the most minimal
needs of anyone I've ever met.
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- So I always hike in sandals,
they keep my feet cool.
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They dry off really quick.
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- There's not really any
downside to it, really.
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I mean, I did the Continental
Divide Trail in sandals
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in the snow and everything else,
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I just had waterproof socks.
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- He can get by on very little
external material things.
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He's truly a minimalist,
and he's happy being so.
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- Joe's kind of quiet,
doesn't say a whole lot.
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- He's very opinionated,
he's very determined,
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and he's mentally strong.
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He's got more experience
backpacking than any of us.
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He's hiked the
Appalachian Trail,
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the Continental Divide Trail
and the Pacific Crest Trail.
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Those are just the
three long trails
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he's done in the United States.
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Then the Te Araroa
in New Zealand.
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His wife did a lot
of the hikes with him
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but she did the Te
Araroa, pregnant.
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If that says anything.
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- He's always been
very confident.
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He's very smart, he
loves the outdoors.
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I think of him, I think
of the color green.
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- I was outdoors a lot as a kid.
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We had a kind of a
forest behind my house
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and I spent a lot
of time back there.
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We had a river, I used
to go swimming a lot.
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My family used to
go on camping trips.
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Whenever we went on vacation,
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we were usually low budget
so we would go camping.
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When I was in high
school, I got the idea
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that I wanted to hike
the Appalachian Trail.
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So I started
researching backpacking,
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I'd never been
backpacking before,
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I realized that lightweight
gear was important.
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So I bought the lightest
gear I could find,
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did some test hikes,
looked at it and realized
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a lot of it was just way
too heavy and unnecessary.
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So I got into making my
own gear and ultimately
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ended up hiking the
Appalachian Trail
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in 2004 with mostly
homemade gear.
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Nobody was ultralight back
then, everybody was carrying
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like 40, 50 pounds, big heavy
backpacks, it was awful.
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So I was carrying, you know,
an eight pound backpack
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and everybody's like,
what are you doing,
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you're gonna die or
they were all impressed
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or scared for my life,
one of the other.
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The people that liked the
idea, they're like you should
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start making this
stuff when you get off
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the trail and I had
just graduated college
285
00:15:04,804 --> 00:15:06,373
and didn't have a
job yet or anything.
286
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So I finished the AT, went
back home to my parents house
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and of course they were putting
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a lot of pressure
on me to get a job.
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So I ended up getting a
job as a software developer
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00:15:16,984 --> 00:15:19,152
but at the same time
I was starting to make
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my first products to
sell and I put together
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a little website and that's
how it all got started.
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I met my wife in college,
I had a studio apartment
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so I was working out of my
kitchen, I would come home
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from work and start
working again.
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I'd start building a backpack
or building stuff sacks
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or building little
stuff like that.
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- In 2010 we grew pretty fast,
it was actually stressful.
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- I spent the last decade and
a half building my business
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and that was more
than a full time job.
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You know we'd get up in the
morning and work until we went
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to bed at night pretty
much, but I've been trying
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to tone that back or
dial that back lately.
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- We are having more
family time which is great.
305
00:16:01,294 --> 00:16:04,264
- My family is the most
important thing to me.
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Every day we try and
go and do something.
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00:16:06,466 --> 00:16:10,603
We'll go canoeing or
camping, outdoor stuff.
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From what I've seen kids
just do the opposite
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of what their parents do.
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So I don't really
have expectations.
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I hope they like the outdoors
and I hope they like doing
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the same sorts of stuff that
my wife and I like to do.
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But eventually they're
gonna be their own people.
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I know that.
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- I think he's a great husband.
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I think he's a great father.
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00:16:27,987 --> 00:16:30,057
I hope I'm friends
with Joe for life.
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00:16:41,034 --> 00:16:42,469
- I got the sandals,
the staff and the hats.
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So I picked up the
trail name, Samurai Joe
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00:16:46,039 --> 00:16:48,375
It'd make more sense if
I was wearing the hat.
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00:16:49,509 --> 00:16:51,611
- My tail name is Red Beard
and I think you might be able
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00:16:51,644 --> 00:16:53,980
to figure out why I
have that trail name.
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00:16:54,013 --> 00:16:56,116
I got it on the AT,
my first thru hike.
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00:16:57,050 --> 00:16:59,519
- My trail name is Plug-It-In.
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00:16:59,552 --> 00:17:01,521
Actually, it's the
name of my business.
326
00:17:01,554 --> 00:17:04,724
I was wearing one of
my Plug It In t-shirts.
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00:17:04,757 --> 00:17:06,659
Whenever I was hiking
one time and a,
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00:17:06,693 --> 00:17:08,395
through hiker came
through and said
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00:17:08,428 --> 00:17:09,862
"Hey what's up, Plug It In?"
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00:17:09,896 --> 00:17:12,031
That's how it happens.
331
00:17:12,065 --> 00:17:14,067
- My trail name is Cannonball.
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00:17:14,101 --> 00:17:15,835
I got it on my very first night
333
00:17:15,868 --> 00:17:17,904
before I hiked my
very first hike.
334
00:17:17,937 --> 00:17:21,108
I fell off the top deck
of the Fontana Hilton
335
00:17:21,141 --> 00:17:23,710
Getting up to go to the
bathroom, I got a concussion.
336
00:17:24,744 --> 00:17:26,679
And everybody was
very concerned.
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00:17:26,713 --> 00:17:27,714
They said, "Are you okay?"
338
00:17:27,747 --> 00:17:29,882
I said, no, I'm not okay.
339
00:17:29,916 --> 00:17:32,452
But no one seemed
to get up to care.
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00:17:32,485 --> 00:17:35,021
The next day, I had a
concussion, I couldn't eat.
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00:17:35,054 --> 00:17:37,124
I was dizzy, and
I almost threw up.
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00:17:37,157 --> 00:17:39,426
I love it, so I've
been hiking ever since,
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00:17:39,459 --> 00:17:41,261
I fell in love with
hiking that day.
344
00:17:42,462 --> 00:17:44,264
- My trail name is Details.
345
00:17:44,297 --> 00:17:46,299
Actually, Steve gave it to
me because I was obsessesing
346
00:17:46,333 --> 00:17:50,570
over all the logistics of
the trip, and now they like
347
00:17:50,603 --> 00:17:52,805
to make fun of me when
I miss a detail, so...
348
00:17:53,773 --> 00:17:55,475
- It's built in name
so we can make fun
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00:17:55,508 --> 00:17:57,710
of him when he
gets things wrong.
350
00:17:57,744 --> 00:17:59,546
And we just make up
things that he does wrong
351
00:17:59,579 --> 00:18:01,614
just so we could
make fun of him.
352
00:18:01,648 --> 00:18:03,416
He's a great planner.
353
00:18:08,020 --> 00:18:09,856
- Dang that's good
354
00:18:33,980 --> 00:18:35,782
- My name's Gordon Hirschi.
355
00:18:35,815 --> 00:18:39,419
I'm president, Uinta Basin
Back Country Horsemen.
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00:18:39,452 --> 00:18:42,589
I've been clearing these
trails for about 10 years.
357
00:18:42,622 --> 00:18:47,627
The Highline Trail is special
to me because there's very few
358
00:18:48,161 --> 00:18:50,797
people and it has great scenery.
359
00:18:51,731 --> 00:18:54,334
The purpose behind
Back Country Horseman
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00:18:54,367 --> 00:18:59,138
is we make sure that
trail stays open.
361
00:18:59,172 --> 00:19:01,774
Basically, we go
through with chain saws
362
00:19:01,808 --> 00:19:05,812
and other hand tools, and
the trees that are fallen
363
00:19:05,845 --> 00:19:07,614
or getting ready to fall,
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00:19:07,647 --> 00:19:10,817
that might be a
danger to the users,
365
00:19:10,850 --> 00:19:14,187
we remove those
trees from the trail.
366
00:19:14,221 --> 00:19:19,058
We also put in water bars,
either made out of rocks
367
00:19:19,091 --> 00:19:23,129
or small wooden bars, and
they're put in at an angle
368
00:19:23,162 --> 00:19:25,398
to divert the water
off the trail.
369
00:19:25,432 --> 00:19:27,900
If you don't, it'll
eventually wash the trail out.
370
00:19:30,537 --> 00:19:32,872
In the winter, I'm
a couch potato.
371
00:19:34,374 --> 00:19:37,977
When it comes time to
working on the trails,
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00:19:38,010 --> 00:19:40,747
I actually look
forward to it, I bug
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00:19:40,780 --> 00:19:43,583
the forest service I
says, get the gates open.
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00:19:43,616 --> 00:19:45,818
I need to get up
there and get to work.
375
00:19:45,852 --> 00:19:50,857
And then in the health
aspect, I usually lose 30
376
00:19:52,058 --> 00:19:54,894
to 40 pounds every summer
by just getting out
377
00:19:54,927 --> 00:19:58,231
and climbing on and off
a horse and the gals
378
00:19:58,265 --> 00:20:03,270
sometimes asked what my secret
is, so I says, come on out.
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00:20:04,036 --> 00:20:06,239
I'll put you on a horse
and give you a chainsaw
380
00:20:06,273 --> 00:20:08,441
and I'll show you
how to lose pounds.
381
00:20:19,652 --> 00:20:21,788
Something had to be done
382
00:20:21,821 --> 00:20:24,391
or we would lose the
trails for posterity.
383
00:20:49,181 --> 00:20:51,918
- Well, we were walking down
this meadow here looking
384
00:20:51,951 --> 00:20:55,722
for some water and we
came across this beautiful
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00:20:55,755 --> 00:20:56,923
little stream it kind of looks
386
00:20:56,956 --> 00:20:59,158
like it just comes
right out of the ground.
387
00:20:59,191 --> 00:21:00,927
- I don't feel great.
388
00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:01,728
- You don't?
389
00:21:01,761 --> 00:21:02,929
What's the matter?
390
00:21:02,962 --> 00:21:04,297
- I'm just hurty everywhere.
391
00:21:04,331 --> 00:21:05,064
- Hurty
392
00:21:08,134 --> 00:21:11,103
He's in the fetal position.
393
00:21:11,137 --> 00:21:11,938
- Sorry man.
394
00:21:22,615 --> 00:21:25,785
- I just had a great
dinner, great hiking day.
395
00:21:25,818 --> 00:21:29,188
Can't wait to get in there and
go to sleep, watch some TV.
396
00:21:29,221 --> 00:21:32,525
Read, write some letters.
397
00:21:33,526 --> 00:21:36,363
Wake up in the morning,
and do it all over again.
398
00:21:44,236 --> 00:21:49,241
- One of the biggest things
we run onto as trail people
399
00:21:50,309 --> 00:21:53,546
is what they call
"altitude sickness".
400
00:21:53,580 --> 00:21:55,782
- Will, he wasn't
feeling too good,
401
00:21:55,815 --> 00:21:58,050
he was having some issues
with the elevation.
402
00:21:58,084 --> 00:22:01,020
- He had a slight
headache as did I
403
00:22:01,053 --> 00:22:03,189
and he was feeling a
little bit nauseous.
404
00:22:03,222 --> 00:22:06,292
- You figure they're
coming from almost zero
405
00:22:06,325 --> 00:22:08,728
all the way up to
almost 10,000 feet.
406
00:22:08,761 --> 00:22:10,329
- It's not a fun deal.
407
00:22:10,363 --> 00:22:13,265
The severe cases you
feel disoriented.
408
00:22:14,367 --> 00:22:17,036
- Well, today was day
one on the Highland,
409
00:22:17,069 --> 00:22:18,237
which trail are we on again?
410
00:22:18,270 --> 00:22:19,839
- By the time we got to camp,
411
00:22:19,872 --> 00:22:21,674
it seemed to be getting
a little bit worse.
412
00:22:21,708 --> 00:22:25,912
So after he attempted to eat
some food, it really got worse.
413
00:22:32,852 --> 00:22:36,423
- My name is Will Wood and I
work for a backpacking company
414
00:22:36,456 --> 00:22:39,392
and I run the backpacking
company's social media
415
00:22:39,426 --> 00:22:42,028
and I also backpack for living.
416
00:22:42,061 --> 00:22:44,230
- Will's a fun guy,
he's pretty laid back.
417
00:22:44,263 --> 00:22:46,098
He's usually pretty
happy go lucky.
418
00:22:46,132 --> 00:22:48,367
- You're almost doing
the backpack dance.
419
00:22:51,370 --> 00:22:53,440
- He's a strong hiker.
420
00:22:53,473 --> 00:22:56,242
- The older I get, the less
I can keep up with a guy.
421
00:22:56,275 --> 00:23:00,079
- He's got thousands of
miles under his belt.
422
00:23:00,112 --> 00:23:02,582
He knows what he's doing
when he's on the trail.
423
00:23:02,615 --> 00:23:05,284
- He hiked the Appalachian
Trail and then the year
424
00:23:05,317 --> 00:23:08,855
after that he did
most of the PCT.
425
00:23:08,888 --> 00:23:11,057
- He has a little camera
and he films everything.
426
00:23:11,090 --> 00:23:12,925
He does gear reviews.
427
00:23:12,959 --> 00:23:14,861
- Hey, guys, Red Beard here.
428
00:23:14,894 --> 00:23:17,864
Well, I've been getting a lot
of requests on trekking poles.
429
00:23:17,897 --> 00:23:19,532
- He filmed his hikes.
430
00:23:19,566 --> 00:23:21,868
- Wow you can really
tell just how much water
431
00:23:21,901 --> 00:23:23,703
got dumped in this area.
432
00:23:23,736 --> 00:23:25,472
- Apparently a bunch of people
like to watch him do that.
433
00:23:25,505 --> 00:23:28,140
So he's pretty popular
on social media.
434
00:23:28,174 --> 00:23:32,078
- He loves the outdoors,
he loves the community.
435
00:23:32,111 --> 00:23:36,716
He really cherishes his
relationship with his followers,
436
00:23:36,749 --> 00:23:39,318
and I cherish my
relationship with him.
437
00:23:39,351 --> 00:23:43,456
- Will Wood is quite a
tender soul much more
438
00:23:43,490 --> 00:23:46,459
than what you would
think just meeting him.
439
00:23:46,493 --> 00:23:50,262
He has a lot of depth,
a lot of emotion.
440
00:23:50,296 --> 00:23:53,332
He cares deeply about people.
441
00:23:53,365 --> 00:23:57,136
He's very smart, he
has a lot of skills.
442
00:23:57,169 --> 00:24:00,172
He is just a close
dear friend of mine.
443
00:24:02,108 --> 00:24:05,512
- Growing up as a kid, I was
really passionate about sports.
444
00:24:05,545 --> 00:24:08,981
I played tennis, soccer,
cross country track.
445
00:24:09,015 --> 00:24:12,485
And I started hiking, when
I was young with my dad,
446
00:24:12,519 --> 00:24:16,322
he would take us to the
Smoky Mountains and my family
447
00:24:16,355 --> 00:24:19,959
would kind of hang out in
town and my dad and I would go
448
00:24:19,992 --> 00:24:23,496
into the forest and just hike
all the trails in the Smokies
449
00:24:23,530 --> 00:24:25,331
and ever since then I
really started to develop
450
00:24:25,364 --> 00:24:28,501
a passion for being
outside and backpacking.
451
00:24:29,468 --> 00:24:32,972
- I hike because I love
being in the forest.
452
00:24:33,005 --> 00:24:35,474
And I've also found
that when I'm traveling,
453
00:24:35,508 --> 00:24:37,977
I love experiencing
different cultures,
454
00:24:38,010 --> 00:24:39,946
whether I'm hiking just
in different states
455
00:24:39,979 --> 00:24:42,214
in the United States
or in other countries.
456
00:24:42,248 --> 00:24:44,150
- Well, guys, we've
made it to Iceland.
457
00:24:44,183 --> 00:24:45,885
- Well, I can't believe I'm here
458
00:24:45,918 --> 00:24:47,887
in southern Chile of Patagonia.
459
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,489
- Well, here we are in Tasmania.
460
00:24:50,523 --> 00:24:53,560
- I really get a grasp for
the culture and the people
461
00:24:53,593 --> 00:24:56,529
when I'm walking and
exploring on foot.
462
00:24:56,563 --> 00:24:59,799
So it's just a lot different
than driving in a car.
463
00:24:59,832 --> 00:25:03,069
You really feel much more
connected to the location.
464
00:25:07,907 --> 00:25:11,578
- Before I started long
distance hiking in 2014,
465
00:25:11,611 --> 00:25:16,082
I found that I was kind
of lost and a lot of times
466
00:25:16,115 --> 00:25:20,386
I settled in life, I got
married young, before I really
467
00:25:20,419 --> 00:25:23,089
even kind of knew who
I was as a person.
468
00:25:46,478 --> 00:25:49,448
- Before I was kind of just
playing everything safe.
469
00:25:49,481 --> 00:25:52,284
So long distance hiking
forced me out there on my own.
470
00:25:52,318 --> 00:25:57,256
It really just, it awakened
me, it awakened my soul.
471
00:25:57,289 --> 00:26:00,693
Since then, my life has
just been one adventure
472
00:26:00,727 --> 00:26:03,763
after the next really and
all it took was that first
473
00:26:03,796 --> 00:26:07,634
initial step, once I started
chasing after the things
474
00:26:07,667 --> 00:26:09,636
that I was passionate about,
that's when I just started
475
00:26:09,669 --> 00:26:11,804
to notice my life
beginning to change.
476
00:26:13,773 --> 00:26:16,809
I met Joe and Matt in
2013, as I was preparing
477
00:26:16,843 --> 00:26:19,411
for the Appalachian Trail,
a good friend of mine
478
00:26:19,445 --> 00:26:21,648
who was gonna originally
hike the trail with me.
479
00:26:21,681 --> 00:26:24,450
He went to the warehouse
of the backpacking company
480
00:26:24,483 --> 00:26:27,319
where Joe and Matt work at
and he introduced himself
481
00:26:27,353 --> 00:26:29,055
and they invited us to come on
482
00:26:29,088 --> 00:26:30,723
a hike with them in the Smokys.
483
00:26:30,757 --> 00:26:33,893
It was about a 70
miles section hike.
484
00:26:33,926 --> 00:26:37,096
We started to bond on that
hike and form a friendship.
485
00:26:38,030 --> 00:26:39,932
After I finished the
Appalachian Trail,
486
00:26:39,966 --> 00:26:42,434
I ended up moving down to
Florida to work with them
487
00:26:42,468 --> 00:26:45,071
and we've been close
friends ever since.
488
00:26:45,104 --> 00:26:47,573
And we've hiked all over the
world together the last four
489
00:26:47,606 --> 00:26:49,809
or five years it's been
quite an adventure.
490
00:26:51,644 --> 00:26:54,346
- Will and I met
actually on a dating app.
491
00:26:54,380 --> 00:26:56,849
- She was different
than any girl
492
00:26:56,883 --> 00:26:59,251
that I had seen since
moving to Florida.
493
00:26:59,285 --> 00:27:02,088
Her pictures were
of her on a tractor.
494
00:27:02,121 --> 00:27:03,923
She's a farmer and
she's very passionate
495
00:27:03,956 --> 00:27:07,126
about what does, I just
was really drawn to that.
496
00:27:07,159 --> 00:27:11,263
- When we first met, he
popped his head in my window.
497
00:27:11,297 --> 00:27:13,766
And was super smiley and I
just saw all this red hair
498
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:17,303
and he was just super
funny, made me laugh a lot,
499
00:27:17,336 --> 00:27:20,306
we got along great, he
was also a little nervous.
500
00:27:20,339 --> 00:27:22,374
I could tell, but
it was really cute.
501
00:27:26,846 --> 00:27:28,380
- Long distance
hiking definitely
502
00:27:28,414 --> 00:27:30,683
can impact your
normal home life.
503
00:27:30,717 --> 00:27:33,319
Obviously, if you're
gonna be gone for a month
504
00:27:33,352 --> 00:27:36,122
to six months hiking
through the forest,
505
00:27:36,155 --> 00:27:38,557
sometimes you don't even
have cell phone service.
506
00:27:38,590 --> 00:27:40,827
It can be tough, it can be
tough for those you love
507
00:27:40,860 --> 00:27:42,561
and those that you leave behind.
508
00:27:42,594 --> 00:27:44,563
But for us, it's
definitely a little bit
509
00:27:44,596 --> 00:27:47,333
more difficult because we
are running a small farm.
510
00:27:47,366 --> 00:27:51,337
So it does put more
work on Joelle.
511
00:27:51,370 --> 00:27:54,741
But she's a worker, so she's
able to hold things down
512
00:27:54,774 --> 00:27:57,143
until I get back and I'm
kind of more her helper.
513
00:27:57,176 --> 00:28:00,880
She's the professional farmer,
so I'm learning from her.
514
00:28:00,913 --> 00:28:03,182
- Hiking for Will is his passion
515
00:28:03,215 --> 00:28:05,517
and I want him to
do what he loves.
516
00:28:05,551 --> 00:28:07,153
He's always excited
to come home and share
517
00:28:07,186 --> 00:28:10,089
with me his experiences
and I really love that.
518
00:28:34,146 --> 00:28:37,784
- Typically, when I hike at
elevation I've walked 1000 miles
519
00:28:37,817 --> 00:28:39,752
before I've gotten there
so I've had no issues
520
00:28:39,786 --> 00:28:42,621
but on this trip after
the first day of hiking,
521
00:28:42,654 --> 00:28:45,624
we were approaching
10,000 feet in elevation.
522
00:28:45,657 --> 00:28:48,961
So last night I experienced
for the first time
523
00:28:48,995 --> 00:28:51,563
having elevation sickness
and it was pretty rough.
524
00:28:51,597 --> 00:28:53,933
I attempted to eat
dinner and threw it up
525
00:28:53,966 --> 00:28:56,936
so I threw up twice,
today's a new day.
526
00:28:56,969 --> 00:28:58,204
I'm feeling great this morning.
527
00:28:58,237 --> 00:29:00,239
So let's keep our
fingers crossed.
528
00:29:00,272 --> 00:29:01,974
It's gonna be different today.
529
00:29:02,008 --> 00:29:04,310
- Will seem to be doing
fine and all the effects
530
00:29:04,343 --> 00:29:06,445
of the altitude had gone away.
531
00:29:07,413 --> 00:29:09,982
- So Benny and I took
a little side trip down
532
00:29:10,016 --> 00:29:14,086
to Mill Park, which had an
old sawmill and we found
533
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:18,590
these old cabins that were
like 100 years old or more.
534
00:29:18,624 --> 00:29:21,460
It was really cool
to see the history
535
00:29:21,493 --> 00:29:23,863
of the pioneers,
to see the relics.
536
00:29:25,197 --> 00:29:27,233
- The remnants maybe just
three, four logs high,
537
00:29:27,266 --> 00:29:29,301
but still, that was
very cool to see that,
538
00:29:29,335 --> 00:29:32,338
especially to step
in those cabin areas.
539
00:29:32,371 --> 00:29:36,175
Knowing that 100 years
ago, people lived in those,
540
00:29:36,208 --> 00:29:38,344
and people were walking
on the very spots
541
00:29:38,377 --> 00:29:40,146
that we were walking on.
542
00:30:19,886 --> 00:30:21,954
- Near the end of the
day, we're gonna pass
543
00:30:21,988 --> 00:30:24,356
Carter Military Trail and
there's a stream there
544
00:30:24,390 --> 00:30:27,059
so we can load up, then
after that we're gonna
545
00:30:27,093 --> 00:30:28,294
be hitting a bunch of water.
546
00:30:36,903 --> 00:30:39,471
- Day two was very
similar to day one
547
00:30:39,505 --> 00:30:41,740
we did pop out of the forest.
548
00:30:41,773 --> 00:30:45,144
- We came next to this
one hill and we could see
549
00:30:45,177 --> 00:30:47,679
just this one pile of rocks
up there and we thought,
550
00:30:47,713 --> 00:30:51,150
you know, that looks pretty
cool, let's go check it out.
551
00:30:51,183 --> 00:30:54,987
It honestly look like a
chimney, is was basically a huge
552
00:30:55,021 --> 00:30:58,090
rock cairn that someone
had built up that was
553
00:30:58,124 --> 00:31:00,792
probably eight feet tall,
if not taller than that.
554
00:31:04,563 --> 00:31:06,198
- We got our first view of
the mountains all around.
555
00:31:06,232 --> 00:31:07,900
So that was pretty cool.
556
00:31:07,934 --> 00:31:09,701
We sat up there on top
of this little peak
557
00:31:09,735 --> 00:31:12,538
for quite a while and had
our lunch and everything.
558
00:31:14,941 --> 00:31:17,009
- So you see this hill
behind me it doesn't look
559
00:31:17,043 --> 00:31:18,911
like it's that tall, right?
560
00:31:18,945 --> 00:31:22,281
It's maybe like 40, 50 feet,
just climbing up this hill.
561
00:31:22,314 --> 00:31:25,251
I felt like I was about to
die, I could not breathe.
562
00:31:25,284 --> 00:31:28,687
We're at about
10,150 feet or so.
563
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:30,756
There's just not
much oxygen up here.
564
00:31:30,789 --> 00:31:34,326
But I can say I'm loving
it, it's beautiful out here.
565
00:31:35,727 --> 00:31:39,298
- Throughout day two,
Joe seemed to be coughing
566
00:31:39,331 --> 00:31:42,701
and falling behind,
which is not typical Joe,
567
00:31:42,734 --> 00:31:44,903
he's usually near
or at the lead.
568
00:31:44,937 --> 00:31:46,772
So we were all kind
of concerned to see
569
00:31:46,805 --> 00:31:49,942
what was going on there but
it didn't seem like too big
570
00:31:49,976 --> 00:31:53,112
of a deal 'cause his spirits
were still pretty good.
571
00:31:53,145 --> 00:31:55,814
- We continue to
gradually climb all day
572
00:31:55,847 --> 00:31:58,150
as we were approaching
the High Uintas.
573
00:31:58,184 --> 00:32:01,187
We had a GPS file that we
used, it was on our phone
574
00:32:01,220 --> 00:32:02,488
and it would have
been tough to get
575
00:32:02,521 --> 00:32:04,723
through that area without that.
576
00:32:04,756 --> 00:32:06,925
- The trail was still
mostly non existent
577
00:32:06,959 --> 00:32:11,730
We were just following cairns
and blazes on the trees.
578
00:32:11,763 --> 00:32:13,099
- So it's hailing
out a little bit,
579
00:32:13,132 --> 00:32:14,900
hoping it doesn't start raining.
580
00:32:14,933 --> 00:32:17,136
We found this nice
little spot to relax
581
00:32:17,169 --> 00:32:21,007
under the pine tree here while
we wait, have a little snack.
582
00:32:22,108 --> 00:32:24,977
Hopefully it'll just blow
by without raining too hard.
583
00:32:26,012 --> 00:32:28,180
It's dripping on me, but
that's about it right now.
584
00:32:44,396 --> 00:32:46,798
- During the first 20 some odd
miles as you're approaching
585
00:32:46,832 --> 00:32:48,834
the High Uintas there's really
586
00:32:48,867 --> 00:32:51,437
not many opportunities
to get water.
587
00:32:51,470 --> 00:32:54,206
- We stumbled across some water
588
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,508
that may have been questionable.
589
00:32:56,542 --> 00:33:00,212
It seemed like there was a lot
of cow activity in the area.
590
00:33:00,246 --> 00:33:03,682
And the water tasted
reminiscent of that activity.
591
00:33:03,715 --> 00:33:06,118
- It looked like
cows had done nothing
592
00:33:06,152 --> 00:33:09,655
but pee and poop in this
thing for like years.
593
00:33:09,688 --> 00:33:12,058
- It was pretty disgusting.
594
00:33:12,091 --> 00:33:15,661
- It was kind of gross and
kind of yellowish brown color.
595
00:33:15,694 --> 00:33:17,696
- You know cow poop water is not
596
00:33:17,729 --> 00:33:20,899
your first choice,
I don't think.
597
00:33:20,932 --> 00:33:23,035
- There really wasn't any
water that day on trail,
598
00:33:23,069 --> 00:33:24,836
other than that, so
we just did our best
599
00:33:24,870 --> 00:33:27,639
to filter and scoop from there.
600
00:33:27,673 --> 00:33:30,008
I don't think I filtered
it but I did, I did boil it
601
00:33:30,042 --> 00:33:32,010
and cook with that
water, it was all right.
602
00:33:32,044 --> 00:33:33,845
It wasn't the worst
water I've ever had.
603
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:43,522
- The Highline Trail does cross
604
00:33:43,555 --> 00:33:46,425
what was the historic
Carter Military Road.
605
00:33:47,426 --> 00:33:48,860
The Carter Military
Road is named
606
00:33:48,894 --> 00:33:50,762
after this guy
named Judge Carter.
607
00:33:50,796 --> 00:33:53,632
He was a veteran of the
Seminole Wars down in Florida.
608
00:33:54,866 --> 00:33:57,503
He was out of the Fort
Bridger Area, he was a sutler,
609
00:33:57,536 --> 00:33:58,904
which is the guy who supplies
610
00:33:58,937 --> 00:34:00,539
the army with all
their equipment.
611
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:03,609
It was a fairly
lucrative business
612
00:34:03,642 --> 00:34:05,244
that he got through
a friend of his.
613
00:34:06,612 --> 00:34:09,115
With the advent of the
transcontinental railroad
614
00:34:09,148 --> 00:34:11,717
making access to the
west a lot easier.
615
00:34:11,750 --> 00:34:13,752
And Fort Bridger being
a nexus of things
616
00:34:13,785 --> 00:34:16,755
and you had all the
settlement in the Uinta Basin,
617
00:34:16,788 --> 00:34:21,093
encroaching on what was
also designated in 1861
618
00:34:21,127 --> 00:34:23,295
as the Uintah Ouray Reservation.
619
00:34:26,332 --> 00:34:28,734
So there was back and
forth between a lot
620
00:34:28,767 --> 00:34:30,302
of the Native Americans
and the settlers.
621
00:34:30,336 --> 00:34:33,472
So it obviously had a serious
impact on the Ute folks,
622
00:34:33,505 --> 00:34:35,541
all three bands that are
now on the reservation,
623
00:34:35,574 --> 00:34:38,444
two of them from Colorado
that were forcibly removed.
624
00:34:42,148 --> 00:34:43,482
The Battle of Little
Bighorn, also known as
625
00:34:43,515 --> 00:34:45,217
Custer's Last Stand
626
00:34:45,251 --> 00:34:46,985
is when basically the
Seventh Cavalry was decimated
627
00:34:47,018 --> 00:34:49,955
by a fairly large
conflagration of a bunch
628
00:34:49,988 --> 00:34:52,391
of different bands
of Native Americans.
629
00:34:52,424 --> 00:34:54,893
And that was the first
real defeat that the army
630
00:34:54,926 --> 00:34:57,263
had suffered at the hands
of the Native Americans.
631
00:34:57,296 --> 00:35:01,567
So that of course sparked a
lot of fear among settlers
632
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:04,403
that they would be next if the
army couldn't protect them.
633
00:35:04,436 --> 00:35:07,206
Of course there was
mistrust on both sides.
634
00:35:08,940 --> 00:35:11,643
In the Uinta Basin after
the Ute's were forcibly
635
00:35:11,677 --> 00:35:14,280
put on the reservation,
the local settlers,
636
00:35:14,313 --> 00:35:16,582
white settlers wanted
protection and petitioned
637
00:35:16,615 --> 00:35:18,150
to have a military
encampment there.
638
00:35:18,184 --> 00:35:21,353
So military Fort
Thornburgh was created.
639
00:35:22,554 --> 00:35:25,357
In order to connect the
Uintah Basin with Fort Bridger
640
00:35:25,391 --> 00:35:28,427
and Carter, of course,
probably for his own elevation
641
00:35:28,460 --> 00:35:31,197
on the fact that he could
supply two military forts.
642
00:35:31,230 --> 00:35:34,800
Had this road made that
crossed the Uintas.
643
00:35:53,852 --> 00:35:57,223
- Good day hiking
today, stayed hydrated,
644
00:35:57,256 --> 00:36:02,027
and there's the raw water
out of this little puddle.
645
00:36:02,828 --> 00:36:04,396
That's not even really a stream.
646
00:36:04,430 --> 00:36:08,400
Probably moving very
slowly, you had to dip.
647
00:36:08,434 --> 00:36:11,370
And then this is it, filtered,
it's got a little red tint
648
00:36:11,403 --> 00:36:13,339
to it from the Kool Aid.
649
00:36:13,372 --> 00:36:17,209
So here we are set up I'm right
in direct line of the sun.
650
00:36:17,243 --> 00:36:21,280
Somehow Joe always
gets the best spot, so,
651
00:36:22,681 --> 00:36:24,115
that's why I'm here.
652
00:36:25,217 --> 00:36:27,686
- Well, we did about
10 miles today.
653
00:36:28,954 --> 00:36:31,557
We got hailed on just a
little, bit got sprinkled on
654
00:36:31,590 --> 00:36:34,260
just a little bit,
nothing to get us wet.
655
00:36:34,293 --> 00:36:36,194
Matt says it's about three
miles to the next potential
656
00:36:36,228 --> 00:36:38,664
water source, it
should be all right.
657
00:37:04,923 --> 00:37:06,458
- Good morning
658
00:37:06,492 --> 00:37:09,194
- Well we had a little
stormed kind of just kind
659
00:37:09,227 --> 00:37:11,297
of glanced us a little
bit not too bad.
660
00:37:11,330 --> 00:37:14,700
The lightning was
pretty dang bright.
661
00:37:14,733 --> 00:37:18,604
I almost had to crawl way up
underneath my sleeping bag
662
00:37:18,637 --> 00:37:20,806
to kind of block a
little bit of that out
663
00:37:20,839 --> 00:37:23,241
but besides that I slept great.
664
00:37:23,275 --> 00:37:25,477
Just love being out
in the wilderness.
665
00:37:25,511 --> 00:37:27,112
Just something
peaceful about it.
666
00:37:27,145 --> 00:37:29,981
You can just sleep forever
but time to wake up,
667
00:37:30,015 --> 00:37:32,484
time to get going and
we got miles to do.
668
00:37:38,256 --> 00:37:40,626
- I got a nice rolling
boil to get all
669
00:37:40,659 --> 00:37:42,728
the crap out of
there just in case.
670
00:37:42,761 --> 00:37:44,730
- You gotta do that
for about 10 minutes.
671
00:37:44,763 --> 00:37:46,932
- No, you gotta do it
for like 60 seconds.
672
00:37:48,099 --> 00:37:51,002
- That's why your kind died off.
673
00:37:57,142 --> 00:37:59,478
- I get blisters because
I have a narrow heel
674
00:38:00,479 --> 00:38:03,782
and it slips up
and down in a shoe
675
00:38:03,815 --> 00:38:06,184
and I get a blister
no matter what I do.
676
00:38:07,152 --> 00:38:10,389
So this is a product
made for hiking.
677
00:38:11,457 --> 00:38:15,026
If I don't put enough,
I'll still get a blister.
678
00:38:17,295 --> 00:38:18,530
- You should put honey on there.
679
00:38:18,564 --> 00:38:20,532
Put honey all over your feet.
680
00:38:22,300 --> 00:38:23,502
- Have you ever
thought about that
681
00:38:23,535 --> 00:38:24,536
You're not the
star of this film.
682
00:38:27,238 --> 00:38:30,308
So stop trying to
horn in on my time.
683
00:38:41,186 --> 00:38:43,288
- Today's day three, we're
gonna be venturing out
684
00:38:43,321 --> 00:38:45,624
of the forest into some
of the higher mountains
685
00:38:45,657 --> 00:38:48,293
above treeline, we're
gonna start hitting a bunch
686
00:38:48,326 --> 00:38:50,228
of lakes and streams
and that water
687
00:38:50,261 --> 00:38:52,531
shouldn't be an
issue going forward.
688
00:38:52,564 --> 00:38:54,633
It's only 10.7 miles today.
689
00:38:54,666 --> 00:38:57,335
But we have a 700 more
feet of elevation gain
690
00:38:57,369 --> 00:38:58,837
than we did yesterday.
691
00:38:58,870 --> 00:39:01,172
So 2300 feet in total,
which still isn't that bad,
692
00:39:01,206 --> 00:39:04,342
but elevation gonna
still get you winded.
693
00:39:04,376 --> 00:39:09,247
- So as we were going down the
trail, animals ran across it.
694
00:39:10,081 --> 00:39:11,883
- I was in front of everybody
and off in the distance
695
00:39:11,917 --> 00:39:15,721
I saw what appeared to
be full grown moose.
696
00:39:15,754 --> 00:39:18,657
- I saw it first, Will is
gonna probably dispute that,
697
00:39:18,690 --> 00:39:21,226
but I'm like, look, look at
the elk, look at the moose.
698
00:39:21,259 --> 00:39:23,729
I called them moose and
the big dispute arose
699
00:39:23,762 --> 00:39:26,598
from that because Joe
said "Those aren't moose"
700
00:39:26,632 --> 00:39:29,234
He and Will went
into a big argument
701
00:39:29,267 --> 00:39:31,236
for about three days on this.
702
00:39:31,269 --> 00:39:32,438
- They had white butts,
703
00:39:32,471 --> 00:39:34,272
I've never seen a moose
with a white butt.
704
00:39:34,305 --> 00:39:36,074
- I'm pretty certain
they were moose.
705
00:39:36,107 --> 00:39:38,209
I'm gonna go ahead
and stick with that.
706
00:39:39,310 --> 00:39:42,013
- We were heading towards
a peak called Leidy Peak.
707
00:39:42,047 --> 00:39:43,882
And it was the first time
708
00:39:43,915 --> 00:39:45,717
that we were gonna
go above treeline.
709
00:39:47,052 --> 00:39:51,122
- It's just so mind boggling,
looking up at a mountain.
710
00:39:51,156 --> 00:39:53,625
It looks like it's
just right there.
711
00:39:53,659 --> 00:39:57,262
When you get up on top of
it, it's extremely high.
712
00:39:57,295 --> 00:39:59,998
It's just so hard
to get the scale.
713
00:40:01,299 --> 00:40:04,470
But we climb up Leidy Peak, we
get some cell phone service.
714
00:40:04,503 --> 00:40:06,337
Everybody's on their phones.
715
00:40:07,439 --> 00:40:08,774
- And I don't think
anybody was really
716
00:40:08,807 --> 00:40:11,477
paying much
attention to the sky.
717
00:40:11,510 --> 00:40:13,645
- We're all standing around
taking pictures and I'm looking
718
00:40:13,679 --> 00:40:16,147
around thinking, I
don't wanna be up here.
719
00:40:16,181 --> 00:40:17,483
This isn't looking good.
720
00:40:21,453 --> 00:40:25,891
That was a moment that I
thought, sure enough...
721
00:40:25,924 --> 00:40:28,159
Okay this is where I die
722
00:40:29,127 --> 00:40:31,062
- A lightning strike
got really close.
723
00:40:31,096 --> 00:40:32,764
Everybody freaked out.
724
00:40:32,798 --> 00:40:34,666
Right as we were
at the high point,
725
00:40:34,700 --> 00:40:38,069
this thunderstorm just opened
up and started hailing on us
726
00:40:38,103 --> 00:40:40,472
and lightning started
striking all over the place.
727
00:40:40,506 --> 00:40:42,307
- There's a lightning
storm right there,
728
00:40:42,340 --> 00:40:44,743
but there's not
really anywhere to go.
729
00:40:44,776 --> 00:40:46,111
Except right down here.
730
00:40:46,144 --> 00:40:48,079
- And it was like
a mad rush to get
731
00:40:48,113 --> 00:40:49,981
back down to the tree line.
732
00:40:50,015 --> 00:40:52,951
So we don't get burned
into a crispy critter
733
00:40:52,984 --> 00:40:54,786
from a lightning bolt.
734
00:40:54,820 --> 00:40:56,655
- I owe Matt $20
bucks because it said
735
00:40:56,688 --> 00:40:58,456
it was gonna hail every
day, I thought he was lying.
736
00:41:00,526 --> 00:41:01,693
- He was not lying.
737
00:41:04,295 --> 00:41:06,297
- Some hail hit me
in a sensitive part.
738
00:41:06,331 --> 00:41:08,700
You can say, that
wasn't so much fun.
739
00:41:24,315 --> 00:41:27,185
- Once we made it down into
the forest, it was pelting us.
740
00:41:28,153 --> 00:41:31,389
And the lightning was
crashing right above us.
741
00:41:33,692 --> 00:41:36,061
I look over at Steve and
he's got his cell phone up.
742
00:41:36,094 --> 00:41:38,697
And he was looking at a picture.
743
00:41:38,730 --> 00:41:40,532
And he turned his
phone towards me
744
00:41:40,566 --> 00:41:42,734
and was like, look
at my girlfriend.
745
00:41:42,768 --> 00:41:43,902
Isn't she beautiful?
746
00:41:43,935 --> 00:41:44,736
And I was like, damn.
747
00:41:48,406 --> 00:41:50,175
It was definitely
a Steve moment.
748
00:41:50,208 --> 00:41:51,843
That's what I love about Steve.
749
00:41:51,877 --> 00:41:54,079
He wasn't even thinking
about the lightning
750
00:41:54,112 --> 00:41:56,582
or the danger that he
was in, he didn't care.
751
00:41:56,615 --> 00:41:59,150
He was just thinking
about his girlfriend.
752
00:42:04,189 --> 00:42:07,492
- Everyone scattered and
we all got into cover
753
00:42:07,525 --> 00:42:09,394
and back into the tree line.
754
00:42:09,427 --> 00:42:13,732
So that cell exhausted
itself and went away
755
00:42:13,765 --> 00:42:17,068
and we gathered up and
got a game plan together.
756
00:42:17,102 --> 00:42:20,839
We pulled up the weather radar,
757
00:42:20,872 --> 00:42:23,609
and it showed another big
cell just coming our way.
758
00:42:23,642 --> 00:42:26,612
So we got back down
into the tree line
759
00:42:26,645 --> 00:42:30,048
just to be protected from
any lightning strikes.
760
00:42:32,217 --> 00:42:35,320
So we're waiting it out,
better be safe than sorry.
761
00:42:36,588 --> 00:42:38,724
- We wrote out like two waves
762
00:42:38,757 --> 00:42:41,059
of storms until
the weather clear.
763
00:42:41,092 --> 00:42:44,529
- That was the end of our first
real hail lightning storm.
764
00:42:44,562 --> 00:42:47,733
But then we didn't have cell
phone service after that.
765
00:42:47,766 --> 00:42:51,036
- I didn't die there, so
that's good, I'm still here.
766
00:42:51,069 --> 00:42:53,071
To hike another day.
767
00:42:53,104 --> 00:42:55,573
- That was probably the most
fun part of the trip, for me.
768
00:42:55,607 --> 00:42:57,375
It was the only part when I
forgot that everything hurt
769
00:42:57,408 --> 00:42:58,777
and that I couldn't breathe.
770
00:43:00,846 --> 00:43:04,249
- We reached the top
of the plateau there,
771
00:43:04,282 --> 00:43:09,054
close to 11,000 feet, and it
was like walking in a field.
772
00:43:09,087 --> 00:43:11,156
But on top of a mountain,
I would say kind of like
773
00:43:11,189 --> 00:43:13,258
The Highlands or something maybe
774
00:43:13,291 --> 00:43:15,160
that you would
imagine in Scotland.
775
00:43:19,097 --> 00:43:21,066
- One of the really cool
aspects of the Uintas is really
776
00:43:21,099 --> 00:43:23,902
they're a monument to
19th century science.
777
00:43:23,935 --> 00:43:26,071
The Uintas kind of formed
a sort of a crossroads
778
00:43:26,104 --> 00:43:28,840
of what they used to call the
great surveys of the West.
779
00:43:28,874 --> 00:43:31,743
You had the Hayden survey,
the Clarence King survey
780
00:43:31,777 --> 00:43:35,413
that came out of California,
John Wesley Powell,
781
00:43:35,446 --> 00:43:36,848
and they all kind of
converged on the Uintas
782
00:43:36,882 --> 00:43:39,350
at about the same
time at about 1870.
783
00:43:40,451 --> 00:43:43,488
They mapped the geology and
they had paleontologists in toe.
784
00:43:43,521 --> 00:43:45,256
So if you look at
a lot of the peaks,
785
00:43:45,290 --> 00:43:47,625
they're named after
naturalist, geologists,
786
00:43:47,659 --> 00:43:51,262
explorers, surveyors,
and paleontologists.
787
00:43:53,564 --> 00:43:55,667
- So you have Untermann Peak.
788
00:43:55,701 --> 00:43:57,535
Untermann was well
known for doing some
789
00:43:57,568 --> 00:43:59,871
of the early renditions
of both dinosaurs
790
00:43:59,905 --> 00:44:02,207
and some of the early mammals
and trying to make them
791
00:44:02,240 --> 00:44:04,642
lifelike and sort of bring
them to life for the public,
792
00:44:04,676 --> 00:44:07,913
translating that from the bone
to the actual animal itself.
793
00:44:10,481 --> 00:44:13,318
Leidy was sort of a
gentleman scholar,
794
00:44:13,351 --> 00:44:15,520
also the father of
Vertebrate Paleontology.
795
00:44:15,553 --> 00:44:17,188
So there's a peak
named after him.
796
00:44:17,222 --> 00:44:18,890
He was one of the foremost
797
00:44:18,924 --> 00:44:21,392
paleontologists in
the 19th century.
798
00:44:26,597 --> 00:44:29,968
Marsh Peak is named
after Othniel Marsh,
799
00:44:30,001 --> 00:44:32,704
A fairly famous sort of
paleontological war took place
800
00:44:32,738 --> 00:44:36,307
between Othniel Marsh
and Edward Drinker Cope.
801
00:44:36,341 --> 00:44:38,744
Marsh was associated with
Yale, Cope was attached
802
00:44:38,777 --> 00:44:41,479
to the Hayden Survey for a
while, and they were battling
803
00:44:41,512 --> 00:44:43,514
over the fossil
fields of the West
804
00:44:43,548 --> 00:44:45,016
It was sensational enough
805
00:44:45,050 --> 00:44:48,754
that they basically warred
with each other in the papers.
806
00:44:48,787 --> 00:44:51,189
When it started off Cope was
in New Jersey and was actually
807
00:44:51,222 --> 00:44:53,391
getting some fossils
from a rock quarry.
808
00:44:54,692 --> 00:44:57,162
Paleontologists would team
up with rock quarriers
809
00:44:57,195 --> 00:44:59,097
and people that were
miners and things like that
810
00:44:59,130 --> 00:45:00,899
and as they would
come across things,
811
00:45:00,932 --> 00:45:03,334
they would then relate
them to the paleontologists
812
00:45:03,368 --> 00:45:06,071
and that's how they would
get a lot of their specimens.
813
00:45:08,073 --> 00:45:10,708
So Cope was down there and
he was using this one quarry
814
00:45:10,742 --> 00:45:12,944
and he invited Marsh
down to check it out.
815
00:45:12,978 --> 00:45:14,612
And then by the time he
left, he didn't realize Marsh
816
00:45:14,645 --> 00:45:16,281
made deal with these
guys and they started
817
00:45:16,314 --> 00:45:18,349
sending all the fossils to him.
818
00:45:18,383 --> 00:45:19,885
So basically these
guys were constantly
819
00:45:19,918 --> 00:45:21,419
scooping each other's finds.
820
00:45:21,452 --> 00:45:23,955
So that of course put them
at odds very early on.
821
00:45:28,994 --> 00:45:30,796
With the transcontinental
railroad,
822
00:45:30,829 --> 00:45:32,864
access and logistics
are a lot easier.
823
00:45:32,898 --> 00:45:35,366
So once that sort of opened
up, and everybody knew
824
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:37,035
about the fossil
fields of the West,
825
00:45:37,068 --> 00:45:39,938
it was almost like a gold
rush but for paleontology.
826
00:45:39,971 --> 00:45:42,040
So these guys were always
kind of trying to stake
827
00:45:42,073 --> 00:45:45,310
out claims, and then claim
jumping each other's claims
828
00:45:45,343 --> 00:45:47,545
and then every time they
would find something,
829
00:45:47,578 --> 00:45:48,780
they would rush into print
830
00:45:48,814 --> 00:45:50,982
so that they would be
the ones to name it.
831
00:45:51,016 --> 00:45:52,650
And then trying to
one up the other guy.
832
00:45:52,683 --> 00:45:54,619
That's why you would have
maybe say something like,
833
00:45:54,652 --> 00:45:57,655
the Uintatherium it might
have five different names,
834
00:45:57,688 --> 00:45:59,657
by the time it gets
published, 'cause everybody's
835
00:45:59,690 --> 00:46:02,027
finding them and then
naming them themselves.
836
00:46:03,428 --> 00:46:06,564
Marsh kind of had more the
financial backing that he kind
837
00:46:06,597 --> 00:46:08,733
of pushed Cope out in a
lot of ways while Cope
838
00:46:08,766 --> 00:46:10,768
was still able to find hundreds
839
00:46:10,802 --> 00:46:13,304
of different fossils
and fossil fields.
840
00:46:16,207 --> 00:46:18,243
Another big bash
against Cope was,
841
00:46:18,276 --> 00:46:20,478
Cope had sort of a Plesiosaur,
842
00:46:20,511 --> 00:46:23,248
and he had mounted the
head on the wrong end.
843
00:46:23,281 --> 00:46:25,516
So Marsh got a lot of traction
out of basically trying
844
00:46:25,550 --> 00:46:27,953
to make fun of him and saying
didn't know what he was doing.
845
00:46:27,986 --> 00:46:30,188
But then of course, Marsh
is also famous for creating
846
00:46:30,221 --> 00:46:31,857
a Brontosaurus by putting
847
00:46:31,890 --> 00:46:34,159
the wrong skull on
the wrong skeleton.
848
00:46:36,161 --> 00:46:38,997
Leidy was so disgusted with
the whole Marsh and Cope war,
849
00:46:39,030 --> 00:46:41,032
going back and forth that
he actually kind of bagged
850
00:46:41,066 --> 00:46:43,201
out of it and stopped
investigating in the West.
851
00:46:43,234 --> 00:46:45,871
But overall, this went
on and on they both died
852
00:46:45,904 --> 00:46:47,638
about the same time.
853
00:46:47,672 --> 00:46:48,974
There really wasn't
a winner in the end,
854
00:46:49,007 --> 00:46:51,242
but volumes have been
written about these guys.
855
00:46:52,210 --> 00:46:54,045
Cope is still the
most highly published
856
00:46:54,079 --> 00:46:55,881
scientists in American history.
857
00:46:55,914 --> 00:46:57,815
In fact, actually what we've
been talking about recently
858
00:46:57,849 --> 00:47:00,451
is even trying to
nominate one of the peaks
859
00:47:00,485 --> 00:47:02,820
to be named after
Edward Drinker Cope.
860
00:47:10,728 --> 00:47:15,666
- Our first pass on this
great hike was Gabbro Pass.
861
00:47:16,667 --> 00:47:19,871
And once again, you just can't
get the scale you're looking
862
00:47:19,905 --> 00:47:24,509
at it going, how am I
gonna hike over that?
863
00:47:24,542 --> 00:47:26,878
- Like most of the
passes on this trail,
864
00:47:26,912 --> 00:47:30,982
it was a pretty vertical
climb, it was Rocky.
865
00:47:31,016 --> 00:47:32,984
But for me the passes
are my favorite part.
866
00:47:33,018 --> 00:47:36,721
So maybe some people dread
them because it's a hard climb.
867
00:47:36,754 --> 00:47:39,724
But with each step that you
take, every time you turn
868
00:47:39,757 --> 00:47:44,062
around and look back, the view
just gets more spectacular.
869
00:47:50,368 --> 00:47:53,471
- It was just gorgeous,
just beautiful.
870
00:47:55,873 --> 00:47:59,577
- Gabbro Pass was really
our first experience of what
871
00:47:59,610 --> 00:48:02,580
the next few days were gonna
be like for us on this trail.
872
00:48:11,389 --> 00:48:15,360
- We ended up down at Deadman's
Lake, not really a name
873
00:48:15,393 --> 00:48:17,128
of a lake you wanna
be hanging out at,
874
00:48:17,162 --> 00:48:19,597
especially after
nearly getting struck
875
00:48:19,630 --> 00:48:21,632
by lightning like
multiple times.
876
00:48:23,969 --> 00:48:27,772
- Deadman Lake is named
after the unfortunate body
877
00:48:27,805 --> 00:48:29,207
of a prospector
that was found there
878
00:48:29,240 --> 00:48:31,242
by a couple of
individuals later.
879
00:48:31,276 --> 00:48:34,379
The north slope is known to
have fairly harsh winters.
880
00:48:34,412 --> 00:48:36,814
Even today, we lose
people in the Uintas.
881
00:48:36,847 --> 00:48:40,051
So the idea that this prospector
could be up there and run
882
00:48:40,085 --> 00:48:42,587
afoul especially, you know,
back in the early days,
883
00:48:42,620 --> 00:48:43,888
when you don't
have all the fancy
884
00:48:43,921 --> 00:48:45,991
equipment that we have now.
885
00:48:46,024 --> 00:48:48,493
It's pretty status quo back
then you're really taking
886
00:48:48,526 --> 00:48:49,961
your life in your hands,
887
00:48:49,995 --> 00:48:51,762
especially as an
individual going in there.
888
00:48:51,796 --> 00:48:53,731
It's an undertaking
now, but to do it,
889
00:48:53,764 --> 00:48:56,501
say in the 1870s,
or 80s, or 90s.
890
00:48:56,534 --> 00:48:58,336
It's a whole
different ball of wax.
891
00:49:30,168 --> 00:49:32,170
- Today was probably one
of the most eventful days
892
00:49:32,203 --> 00:49:34,472
of hiking I've had, it
started off pretty normal
893
00:49:34,505 --> 00:49:38,709
and pretty awesome and then
some crazy storms rolled in.
894
00:49:38,743 --> 00:49:42,047
I almost got hit by lightning,
then it started to hail,
895
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:44,115
which was kind of good
because I won my bet with Joe
896
00:49:44,149 --> 00:49:46,051
that it would hail
at least three times.
897
00:49:46,084 --> 00:49:48,819
So I won 20 bucks and then
promptly a piece of hail
898
00:49:48,853 --> 00:49:53,791
struck me in my genitalia,
which was pretty not awesome.
899
00:49:53,824 --> 00:49:57,062
But, it's funny now but wasn't
really funny at the time.
900
00:49:57,095 --> 00:49:59,664
I haven't even looked, it
could be bruised, who knows.
901
00:50:01,832 --> 00:50:03,868
- I feel like
today was the first
902
00:50:03,901 --> 00:50:07,305
real day of hiking.
After the storms past.
903
00:50:07,338 --> 00:50:10,341
It was beautiful and it
felt like a ton of climbing.
904
00:50:10,375 --> 00:50:13,144
It was only supposed to be 2300
feet, but it felt like more.
905
00:50:13,178 --> 00:50:15,046
So it's a beautiful day.
906
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:17,515
We're here at this
beautiful pond tonight
907
00:50:17,548 --> 00:50:20,718
and we're gonna get some
good rest 'cause tomorrow
908
00:50:20,751 --> 00:50:22,687
we've got it again,
we got 12 miles
909
00:50:22,720 --> 00:50:25,190
and we're gonna probably be
going over a couple passes.
910
00:50:53,118 --> 00:50:56,121
- My name is Matt, I work
for a backpacking company.
911
00:50:56,154 --> 00:50:58,089
I love to travel.
912
00:50:58,123 --> 00:51:01,092
I love my family and
I love backpacking,
913
00:51:01,126 --> 00:51:03,794
and I love it when I can
incorporate all three together.
914
00:51:05,430 --> 00:51:07,798
- The best way I
can describe Matt,
915
00:51:07,832 --> 00:51:09,500
he lives his life
with integrity.
916
00:51:11,001 --> 00:51:12,470
He makes it a point.
917
00:51:13,504 --> 00:51:16,441
He is really dedicated
to his family.
918
00:51:17,475 --> 00:51:21,112
And that speaks to me, those
two things speak volumes to me.
919
00:51:22,012 --> 00:51:24,249
I would say when it
comes down to it,
920
00:51:24,282 --> 00:51:29,387
me and Matt are probably
the two most alike people,
921
00:51:29,420 --> 00:51:32,123
even though we come from
totally different backgrounds.
922
00:51:33,124 --> 00:51:35,493
- Growing up, I was
a little explorer.
923
00:51:35,526 --> 00:51:38,163
I was always spending
time in the woods.
924
00:51:38,196 --> 00:51:41,266
I was always building forts,
going farther than my mom
925
00:51:41,299 --> 00:51:44,269
would like on my bike
or my skateboard.
926
00:51:44,302 --> 00:51:45,770
I grew up with a single mother,
927
00:51:45,803 --> 00:51:49,974
so I never really got the
chance to travel or go anywhere.
928
00:51:50,007 --> 00:51:52,410
As I grew up, like after
high school, I was in a band
929
00:51:52,443 --> 00:51:55,180
and I used that as
an opportunity to
explore the country,
930
00:51:55,213 --> 00:51:58,082
go on tour, see places
I'd never been before.
931
00:51:58,115 --> 00:52:00,618
And I learned through
those experiences
932
00:52:00,651 --> 00:52:04,255
how valuable travel
really was to me.
933
00:52:04,289 --> 00:52:06,591
- He was a singer in
a heavy metal band.
934
00:52:06,624 --> 00:52:09,126
He's tattooed from head to toe.
935
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:12,497
He's never been high,
he's never been drunk,
936
00:52:12,530 --> 00:52:15,166
and his memory is
like a steel trap.
937
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:20,205
He will pull names and
dates out of his memory.
938
00:52:21,172 --> 00:52:22,873
And you wonder, where
does this come from?
939
00:52:22,907 --> 00:52:24,775
- Matt was the person
that I instantly
940
00:52:24,809 --> 00:52:27,144
connected with when I met him.
941
00:52:27,178 --> 00:52:29,447
He's a fun guy to be around.
942
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:33,784
On the trail, he's all for
hiking 30 miles without breaking
943
00:52:33,818 --> 00:52:36,020
and it's hard sometimes
to keep up with him.
944
00:52:36,987 --> 00:52:39,990
- My name's Kim Favero,
I'm married to Matt.
945
00:52:40,024 --> 00:52:42,727
I'm a cardiovascular specialist.
946
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:44,094
I met Matt on MySpace.
947
00:52:45,095 --> 00:52:47,498
He tells me he was
impressed with my picture
948
00:52:47,532 --> 00:52:51,569
'cause I was pretending to
lick Borat on like a bus stop
949
00:52:51,602 --> 00:52:53,404
promotion for the movie.
950
00:52:53,438 --> 00:52:56,207
So that was enough to
reel him in I guess.
951
00:52:56,241 --> 00:52:58,709
- And 11 months later,
we were married.
952
00:52:58,743 --> 00:53:01,178
On my honeymoon,
we stumbled across
953
00:53:01,212 --> 00:53:03,314
this trail in Canada
and we just decided
954
00:53:03,348 --> 00:53:07,518
to walk down it and about 15
minutes in, I was in heaven.
955
00:53:07,552 --> 00:53:11,222
It was the first time I'd
been in the woods in so long,
956
00:53:11,256 --> 00:53:14,191
ever since that day man,
it led me to my job.
957
00:53:14,225 --> 00:53:16,361
It led me to so many adventures.
958
00:53:16,394 --> 00:53:18,963
Every time I go into the
woods, I just wanna go back.
959
00:53:21,966 --> 00:53:23,268
- When I married Matt,
960
00:53:23,301 --> 00:53:25,503
I knew that it wasn't
gonna be boring.
961
00:53:25,536 --> 00:53:27,338
I knew it was gonna
be an adventure.
962
00:53:27,372 --> 00:53:28,639
I knew that for sure.
963
00:53:30,708 --> 00:53:32,209
Matt's crazy passionate
964
00:53:32,243 --> 00:53:34,912
about everything he does,
just unconventional.
965
00:53:34,945 --> 00:53:37,848
I can just list off so
many weird things he does.
966
00:53:37,882 --> 00:53:39,417
He was in a band.
967
00:53:39,450 --> 00:53:42,052
- Matt's a good organizer
of everything really.
968
00:53:42,086 --> 00:53:45,890
- He did A.M radio show.
969
00:53:45,923 --> 00:53:47,892
- He plans most of our hikes.
970
00:53:47,925 --> 00:53:50,728
- He was running all
night scavenger hunt game.
971
00:53:50,761 --> 00:53:53,698
- He also for a while was
running a soccer club.
972
00:53:53,731 --> 00:53:55,300
- He made t-shirts.
973
00:53:55,333 --> 00:53:57,568
He did screen printing till
like four in the morning once.
974
00:53:57,602 --> 00:53:59,370
- That's what Matt does.
975
00:53:59,404 --> 00:54:01,739
He finds people and gets
them together to do things.
976
00:54:01,772 --> 00:54:03,140
- People tolerate
him pretty well.
977
00:54:14,151 --> 00:54:16,654
- My family came to be,
978
00:54:16,687 --> 00:54:20,558
again in true Favero fashion
very unconventionally.
979
00:54:20,591 --> 00:54:25,596
And I think at the time, we
were talking about having kids,
980
00:54:26,497 --> 00:54:27,665
and then we stopped
talking about it
981
00:54:27,698 --> 00:54:31,001
because he had gotten laid off.
982
00:54:31,035 --> 00:54:32,737
We moved in with my mom,
983
00:54:32,770 --> 00:54:35,773
we just weren't really in
the position at that time.
984
00:54:35,806 --> 00:54:37,708
And then I got pregnant.
985
00:54:39,310 --> 00:54:42,813
- So in 2010, my wife and I
were working out of our garage,
986
00:54:42,847 --> 00:54:44,949
we were still building
everything ourselves.
987
00:54:44,982 --> 00:54:46,183
It was getting to the point
988
00:54:46,216 --> 00:54:48,252
where we couldn't
keep up with demand.
989
00:54:48,285 --> 00:54:52,657
As I got into backpacking, I
stumbled across Joe's website,
990
00:54:52,690 --> 00:54:54,659
and I noticed that Joe had moved
991
00:54:54,692 --> 00:54:57,227
to the next city
south of me Palm Bay.
992
00:54:58,195 --> 00:54:59,697
- Matt emailed and asked
if he could come over
993
00:54:59,730 --> 00:55:01,666
and check out some gear.
994
00:55:01,699 --> 00:55:05,169
So he came to our house to our
garage, checked out some gear
995
00:55:05,202 --> 00:55:07,438
and we talked, we ended
up going out to lunch.
996
00:55:07,472 --> 00:55:09,139
And basically we
ended up extending him
997
00:55:09,173 --> 00:55:11,609
an offer to be a
seamster for us.
998
00:55:11,642 --> 00:55:14,845
So he was our first
first outside employee.
999
00:55:14,879 --> 00:55:18,349
- We kind of just went
with it and slowly got
1000
00:55:18,383 --> 00:55:20,685
our lives back
together structurally.
1001
00:55:20,718 --> 00:55:24,689
And then Lu was born in 2010.
1002
00:55:31,929 --> 00:55:34,331
But then, a few weeks later,
1003
00:55:34,365 --> 00:55:36,667
we found out she had a
serious heart defect.
1004
00:55:38,202 --> 00:55:41,205
- She had a couple holes in her
heart and some other things.
1005
00:55:49,414 --> 00:55:51,549
- It was a really trying
time for my wife and I
1006
00:55:51,582 --> 00:55:55,219
because we were
broke at the time,
1007
00:55:55,252 --> 00:55:58,255
our living situation
wasn't the best.
1008
00:55:58,288 --> 00:56:01,091
And then we had this
huge, horrible situation
1009
00:56:01,125 --> 00:56:04,762
with our daughter and
through it, I was still able
1010
00:56:04,795 --> 00:56:09,600
to go on hikes, and it
really helped me decompress.
1011
00:56:10,868 --> 00:56:13,671
For me hiking lets me get
into a place in my mind
1012
00:56:13,704 --> 00:56:16,340
where I'm at peace with
how I feel about things
1013
00:56:16,373 --> 00:56:18,443
that have happened
and how I would feel
1014
00:56:18,476 --> 00:56:20,778
about things if they happened.
1015
00:56:20,811 --> 00:56:23,448
And going through a
difficult situation
1016
00:56:23,481 --> 00:56:27,618
like that hiking really
helped me stay strong.
1017
00:57:06,924 --> 00:57:09,994
- From then on, she's
just been everything.
1018
00:57:10,027 --> 00:57:12,229
She's guided us
through everything
1019
00:57:12,262 --> 00:57:13,698
and everything has been for her.
1020
00:57:15,866 --> 00:57:17,768
- My trail name is Champion.
1021
00:57:19,269 --> 00:57:21,338
I like to hike with my family.
1022
00:57:22,306 --> 00:57:25,476
The longest hike I've
been on is Italy, France
1023
00:57:25,510 --> 00:57:28,713
and Switzerland. 100 miles.
1024
00:57:29,947 --> 00:57:34,785
I was the youngest kid that
hiked it. In the world.
1025
00:58:07,685 --> 00:58:10,287
- The older I get, the
more I realize life
1026
00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:12,356
isn't about obtaining
possessions.
1027
00:58:12,389 --> 00:58:16,160
It's about obtaining
experiences. What
that translates
1028
00:58:16,193 --> 00:58:21,198
to with my family is traveling
together and hiking together.
1029
00:58:22,499 --> 00:58:24,368
So the outdoors and hiking
in general has become
1030
00:58:24,401 --> 00:58:26,470
an experience that
we share to build
1031
00:58:26,503 --> 00:58:29,073
and foster our relationships
with each other.
1032
00:58:50,728 --> 00:58:54,665
- Well, now today is
day four, just got off,
1033
00:58:54,699 --> 00:58:57,367
just got packed up, spent
the whole night coughing
1034
00:58:57,401 --> 00:58:58,736
so that wasn't great.
1035
00:58:58,769 --> 00:59:01,672
We're meeting somebody
and we're picking up
1036
00:59:01,706 --> 00:59:04,074
our food drop today, and
we're gonna go from hardly
1037
00:59:04,108 --> 00:59:05,375
any food to a six days of food
1038
00:59:05,409 --> 00:59:06,711
and so that's gonna be fun too.
1039
00:59:06,744 --> 00:59:08,613
Oh, and then I guess we
have like a bunch of passes
1040
00:59:08,646 --> 00:59:10,748
to go over with
all our heavy food.
1041
00:59:10,781 --> 00:59:12,617
And we've got 13 miles today,
1042
00:59:12,650 --> 00:59:16,186
so it's gonna be a big day
for us, so there's that.
1043
00:59:26,631 --> 00:59:28,799
- So we've been smelling
smoke all morning.
1044
00:59:28,833 --> 00:59:29,867
And you can see in the distance
1045
00:59:29,900 --> 00:59:32,036
here that the sky is all hazy.
1046
00:59:32,069 --> 00:59:33,604
You can smell it
pretty good here.
1047
00:59:33,638 --> 00:59:35,940
So we're wondering if
there's fires nearby
1048
00:59:35,973 --> 00:59:37,608
or how far away it is.
1049
00:59:37,642 --> 00:59:39,209
Hopefully it's not
gonna impact our route,
1050
00:59:39,243 --> 00:59:40,778
but you never know.
1051
00:59:47,985 --> 00:59:51,455
- One of the great things about
this hike was the community
1052
00:59:51,488 --> 00:59:54,124
in the area, we actually
had someone that was willing
1053
00:59:54,158 --> 00:59:58,428
to drive out there and
bring us our resupply.
1054
00:59:58,462 --> 01:00:00,464
So this allowed us
not have to carry
1055
01:00:00,497 --> 01:00:02,566
10 days worth of
food from day one.
1056
01:00:02,599 --> 01:00:05,970
- And we appreciate
the kindness.
1057
01:00:06,003 --> 01:00:09,273
Of the gentleman who did our
resupply, a phenomenal guy.
1058
01:00:13,277 --> 01:00:15,345
- Cameramen down.
1059
01:00:15,379 --> 01:00:20,651
- There was a little unexpected
event, we lost Gordy,
1060
01:00:21,618 --> 01:00:23,287
our cameraman, he
jumped off the trail
1061
01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:27,457
'cause he had extreme
foot pain and blisters.
1062
01:00:27,491 --> 01:00:29,459
- It's been a crazy four days
1063
01:00:31,461 --> 01:00:34,498
seen stuff I'd
never seen before.
1064
01:00:34,531 --> 01:00:37,501
Vistas I never
imagined I would see.
1065
01:00:39,303 --> 01:00:42,707
Too bad my feet
aren't hold up but..
1066
01:00:42,740 --> 01:00:45,876
It was cool, while it
lasted, super cool.
1067
01:00:45,910 --> 01:00:47,878
- Cool, we're gonna
miss you Gordy.
1068
01:00:47,912 --> 01:00:50,681
- See you in Salt Lake.
1069
01:00:50,715 --> 01:00:53,050
- I'll try to meet you
at the end of the trail.
1070
01:00:53,083 --> 01:00:54,284
- All right man
1071
01:00:54,318 --> 01:00:55,319
- Best of luck out there.
1072
01:00:55,352 --> 01:00:56,887
- Stay safe
1073
01:00:56,921 --> 01:00:58,155
- Take care
1074
01:00:58,188 --> 01:00:59,890
- You too, it was
awesome hiking with you.
1075
01:00:59,924 --> 01:01:03,794
- We hated to see Gordy go
'cause we got attached to him,
1076
01:01:03,828 --> 01:01:05,996
he was like became
one of our own.
1077
01:01:07,231 --> 01:01:10,701
But we definitely understand
we've all been there.
1078
01:01:10,735 --> 01:01:14,071
- So he was able to get a
ride with Aaron off the trail.
1079
01:01:14,104 --> 01:01:15,305
So he was out.
1080
01:01:15,339 --> 01:01:17,875
- It left us with our producer
1081
01:01:17,908 --> 01:01:21,245
and other cameraman
and Matt and Benny.
1082
01:01:21,278 --> 01:01:23,180
They picked up some cameras
1083
01:01:23,213 --> 01:01:24,581
and they were taking
shots as well.
1084
01:01:24,614 --> 01:01:27,517
So we managed to get through it
1085
01:01:27,551 --> 01:01:31,255
but Gordy did miss a great hike.
1086
01:01:46,971 --> 01:01:50,574
- Chipeta Lake is named after
the wife of Chief Ouray.
1087
01:01:50,607 --> 01:01:53,177
And he was one of the
most well known Ute Chiefs
1088
01:01:53,210 --> 01:01:55,746
that the government actually
sort of identified to speak
1089
01:01:55,780 --> 01:01:58,282
for all the Ute during
the negotiations
1090
01:01:58,315 --> 01:02:00,751
over the Uinta Ouray,
named after him of course,
1091
01:02:00,785 --> 01:02:02,419
Reservation in the Uinta Basin,
1092
01:02:02,452 --> 01:02:05,655
where now the three
bands of Ute's reside.
1093
01:02:06,757 --> 01:02:09,026
- The Native American
story in the Uintas
1094
01:02:09,059 --> 01:02:11,561
goes back to the late Ice Age.
1095
01:02:11,595 --> 01:02:14,031
We're talking about
15,000 years plus
1096
01:02:14,064 --> 01:02:18,035
of human habitation in
North America, it's not new.
1097
01:02:18,068 --> 01:02:20,871
There's an archaeological
culture called Clovis Culture.
1098
01:02:20,905 --> 01:02:23,941
And we know that we have
artifacts from very close
1099
01:02:23,974 --> 01:02:28,212
to the forest, a famous Clovis
cache of weapons was found.
1100
01:02:28,245 --> 01:02:30,981
And those date back to
say 14,000 years ago.
1101
01:02:31,015 --> 01:02:32,216
- These are the
folks that are still
1102
01:02:32,249 --> 01:02:34,084
in the last waning
stages of the Ice Age.
1103
01:02:34,118 --> 01:02:36,153
These are the people that
are still hunting mammoth,
1104
01:02:36,186 --> 01:02:38,222
and hunting extinct
forms of animals
1105
01:02:38,255 --> 01:02:39,689
that we don't have any more.
1106
01:02:40,925 --> 01:02:42,960
We've got some more
severe weather patterns.
1107
01:02:42,993 --> 01:02:45,595
We've obviously got
lower sea levels,
1108
01:02:45,629 --> 01:02:48,465
that's affording people to
actually come across Beringia,
1109
01:02:48,498 --> 01:02:49,800
which is the Bering Strait,
1110
01:02:49,834 --> 01:02:53,003
coming down into the
continental United States.
1111
01:02:53,037 --> 01:02:56,073
- Time marches on, things
change, the environment changes,
1112
01:02:56,106 --> 01:02:59,276
people adapt to their sort of
home range ecological zones,
1113
01:02:59,309 --> 01:03:01,645
you see a little bit
of diversity in that.
1114
01:03:01,678 --> 01:03:04,114
We don't necessarily know how
they were organized, socially.
1115
01:03:04,148 --> 01:03:07,852
What they call themselves up
until about the historic period
1116
01:03:07,885 --> 01:03:11,856
when we do have all these
other sort of Western Shoshone
1117
01:03:11,889 --> 01:03:15,025
Piute and Ute bands that we
see in more recent history
1118
01:03:15,059 --> 01:03:17,194
that we can identify with
the names that they still
1119
01:03:17,227 --> 01:03:18,896
identify themselves with today.
1120
01:03:21,298 --> 01:03:24,101
- Obviously, native people
have a very different
1121
01:03:24,134 --> 01:03:26,436
relationship and a
very close relationship
1122
01:03:26,470 --> 01:03:30,107
with the archaeology and
history of their own people.
1123
01:03:30,140 --> 01:03:33,677
As archaeologists, our job is
to make that Native American
1124
01:03:33,710 --> 01:03:35,645
history relevant to people
that aren't necessarily
1125
01:03:35,679 --> 01:03:37,848
of Native American ancestry,
because I think a lot
1126
01:03:37,882 --> 01:03:39,549
of our problem comes
from people see things
1127
01:03:39,583 --> 01:03:41,886
as the other, or they're
not concerned about it
1128
01:03:41,919 --> 01:03:43,820
'cause they don't feel
some sort of link to it
1129
01:03:43,854 --> 01:03:46,790
with that sense of stewardship
and that sense of time depth
1130
01:03:46,823 --> 01:03:48,725
that we seem to always
be yearning for.
1131
01:03:48,758 --> 01:03:51,896
But we have. If it
can just be recognized
1132
01:03:51,929 --> 01:03:54,564
by more people as an
American archaeology.
1133
01:03:54,598 --> 01:03:57,868
This is an American history
and we're Americans.
1134
01:04:10,680 --> 01:04:13,918
- It really stunk to have to
go on without one of the guys
1135
01:04:13,951 --> 01:04:16,486
in our group, but you
just got to keep moving.
1136
01:04:16,520 --> 01:04:17,988
And that's what we did.
1137
01:04:18,022 --> 01:04:20,324
We threw all that
weight into our packs.
1138
01:04:20,357 --> 01:04:22,126
And we took off again.
1139
01:04:23,360 --> 01:04:24,995
We still kept an eye on Joe.
1140
01:04:25,029 --> 01:04:27,097
I was kind of wondering
if he was gonna bail
1141
01:04:27,131 --> 01:04:29,900
at that point because
he was in bad shape.
1142
01:04:29,934 --> 01:04:31,902
In fact, I think, in my opinion,
1143
01:04:31,936 --> 01:04:35,272
he seemed to almost be
doing worse than Gordy.
1144
01:04:35,305 --> 01:04:39,543
So I was nervous, and at that
point, you know, I didn't know
1145
01:04:39,576 --> 01:04:41,711
if we were gonna have
other opportunities
1146
01:04:41,745 --> 01:04:44,314
to get out of the mountains
if it was necessary.
1147
01:04:45,782 --> 01:04:48,085
- I'm feeling all
right, right now.
1148
01:04:48,118 --> 01:04:50,887
I've just been having
a hard time breathing
1149
01:04:50,921 --> 01:04:52,923
on all the up hills,
and I feel like my lungs
1150
01:04:52,957 --> 01:04:54,191
aren't working right.
1151
01:04:54,224 --> 01:04:56,093
I can only breathe
in like halfway
1152
01:04:56,126 --> 01:04:57,794
and then it kind of like hurts.
1153
01:04:57,827 --> 01:04:59,964
So I don't know exactly
what's wrong with them,
1154
01:04:59,997 --> 01:05:02,799
but I just have to go
real slow going uphill.
1155
01:05:02,832 --> 01:05:05,102
I was like, can't
breathe, so I'm dealing
1156
01:05:05,135 --> 01:05:07,904
with that but whatever,
maybe it'll go away.
1157
01:05:07,938 --> 01:05:09,806
That's what I'm hoping for.
1158
01:05:09,839 --> 01:05:14,144
- Of course, as luck would
have it, we got our resupply,
1159
01:05:14,178 --> 01:05:16,380
and then immediately had
to go up what is routinely
1160
01:05:16,413 --> 01:05:18,115
considered the toughest pass
1161
01:05:18,148 --> 01:05:21,251
on the Highline Trail,
North Pole pass.
1162
01:05:21,285 --> 01:05:24,788
- Every pass seem to be a
little tougher than the one
1163
01:05:24,821 --> 01:05:27,224
before 'cause we
were going west going
1164
01:05:27,257 --> 01:05:30,160
into more aggressive terrain.
1165
01:05:49,613 --> 01:05:52,649
- I'm not sure exactly what
happened, but I think I had some
1166
01:05:52,682 --> 01:05:55,485
kind of like, chest
cold or chest infection
1167
01:05:55,519 --> 01:05:58,622
at the same time as
being at altitude.
1168
01:05:58,655 --> 01:06:01,258
So when we got to North
Pole past, what I was doing
1169
01:06:01,291 --> 01:06:03,860
is putting one foot in front
of the other like this,
1170
01:06:03,893 --> 01:06:06,063
little bitty stops 'cause
that's all I could do.
1171
01:06:07,664 --> 01:06:09,499
- It seemed like it
took forever to get
1172
01:06:09,533 --> 01:06:11,768
to the top of that pass.
1173
01:06:11,801 --> 01:06:15,339
I remember seeing this
sign, thinking Ashley
1174
01:06:15,372 --> 01:06:16,840
my wifes name is Ashley.
1175
01:06:16,873 --> 01:06:18,442
So I thought about her a lot
1176
01:06:18,475 --> 01:06:20,444
when I was sitting
there at that pass.
1177
01:06:20,477 --> 01:06:22,846
I love the outdoors, I
love going backpacking.
1178
01:06:22,879 --> 01:06:27,151
I love being out for days and
weeks and months on the end.
1179
01:06:27,184 --> 01:06:29,853
But I still miss my wife.
1180
01:06:47,604 --> 01:06:49,873
- Well, today was day four.
1181
01:06:49,906 --> 01:06:52,309
I will say it started off today
1182
01:06:52,342 --> 01:06:55,245
and I was a little nervous
because the smoke blew in.
1183
01:06:55,279 --> 01:06:57,481
We could smell it when we
woke up and I was thinking
1184
01:06:57,514 --> 01:07:01,218
that we might be walking
into a fire, but it sounds
1185
01:07:01,251 --> 01:07:04,088
like that smoke is
just blowing to us here
1186
01:07:04,121 --> 01:07:06,256
from California and Oregon
and maybe for some other
1187
01:07:06,290 --> 01:07:08,158
smaller fires around Utah.
1188
01:07:08,192 --> 01:07:10,160
So that's really good news.
1189
01:07:10,194 --> 01:07:13,263
We'll see if it clears
up because it still
is a little hazy.
1190
01:07:16,700 --> 01:07:20,104
- Today was a tough day, man.
1191
01:07:20,137 --> 01:07:24,241
Got up, walked a little
bit, got our food drop,
1192
01:07:24,274 --> 01:07:26,710
and climbed the
biggest pass ever.
1193
01:07:26,743 --> 01:07:30,114
North Pole pass with six
days of food on our backs,
1194
01:07:30,147 --> 01:07:32,249
seemed like it went on
and on and on forever.
1195
01:07:33,550 --> 01:07:35,685
Finally made it to the top
came down the other side
1196
01:07:35,719 --> 01:07:37,621
and ended up here in
this grassy meadow,
1197
01:07:37,654 --> 01:07:40,224
which is really nice,
so I'm glad to be here.
1198
01:07:41,325 --> 01:07:44,728
- So Joe's been having some
trouble with the altitude
1199
01:07:44,761 --> 01:07:46,896
and climbing at higher
altitudes, he's having a real
1200
01:07:46,930 --> 01:07:51,101
hard time breathing and getting
a full, full breath inside.
1201
01:07:51,135 --> 01:07:53,137
So he's been struggling,
he's been coughing a lot.
1202
01:07:54,504 --> 01:07:56,773
If you know Joe,
he's a tough dude.
1203
01:07:56,806 --> 01:07:58,808
So he's gonna make it
to the end for sure.
1204
01:07:58,842 --> 01:08:02,078
But he's just dealing
with some stuff right now.
1205
01:08:02,112 --> 01:08:04,648
And we're concerned for him,
but I think he's gonna make it.
1206
01:08:17,794 --> 01:08:20,397
- During the night, I
woke up some where around
1207
01:08:20,430 --> 01:08:22,632
two o'clock and I could
hear Joe coughing.
1208
01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:27,103
And I was a little
bit concerned.
1209
01:08:28,705 --> 01:08:32,176
- I listened to him for, you
know, probably 15 to 20 minutes
1210
01:08:32,209 --> 01:08:34,511
just struggling to breathe
in the middle of the night.
1211
01:08:34,544 --> 01:08:38,182
And then I dozed off,
but the next day,
1212
01:08:38,215 --> 01:08:42,352
I just knew that Joe's trip
might be coming to an end.
1213
01:08:43,620 --> 01:08:46,190
- It was like the worst
night's sleep for me ever.
1214
01:08:46,223 --> 01:08:48,758
I got this cough that keeps
getting worse and worse.
1215
01:08:48,792 --> 01:08:50,827
So I don't know what
to do right now.
1216
01:08:51,695 --> 01:08:53,197
We're a long way from anywhere.
1217
01:08:53,230 --> 01:08:56,366
So there's not really
any great escape plan.
1218
01:08:56,400 --> 01:08:58,202
I couldn't breathe
so like I didn't blow
1219
01:08:58,235 --> 01:08:59,803
my sleeping pad up last night.
1220
01:08:59,836 --> 01:09:02,339
I was like I'm so
short of breath.
1221
01:09:02,372 --> 01:09:05,342
So in the middle of the
night like I wanted to blow
1222
01:09:05,375 --> 01:09:06,810
this thing up because I
kept tossing and turning,
1223
01:09:06,843 --> 01:09:08,212
but I just couldn't do it.
1224
01:09:09,379 --> 01:09:11,781
So if it's worse
tonight, I'm more screwed
1225
01:09:11,815 --> 01:09:12,782
'cause we're gonna
be farther away
1226
01:09:12,816 --> 01:09:14,518
from any escape plan.
1227
01:09:20,824 --> 01:09:23,627
- Unfortunately, Joe was
not getting any better.
1228
01:09:23,660 --> 01:09:25,662
He seemed to be going slower.
1229
01:09:25,695 --> 01:09:30,234
He seemed to be coughing
more, and we were considering
1230
01:09:30,267 --> 01:09:33,002
that a helicopter ride
might be on the horizon
1231
01:09:33,036 --> 01:09:34,538
for Joe to get him out of there.
1232
01:09:38,408 --> 01:09:40,210
- When I got up, I knew
that I wasn't feeling well.
1233
01:09:40,244 --> 01:09:41,811
So I'd already started
looking at my maps
1234
01:09:41,845 --> 01:09:44,047
and trying to formulate
an escape plan.
1235
01:09:44,080 --> 01:09:46,049
And there was one trail
where I could hike
1236
01:09:46,082 --> 01:09:49,052
out to a trailhead
near Fox Lake.
1237
01:09:49,085 --> 01:09:53,657
And I was thinking well if I
keep going and if it got worse,
1238
01:09:53,690 --> 01:09:55,592
I don't know what I would have
done because we would have
1239
01:09:55,625 --> 01:09:57,494
been too deep into the mountains
and it would have been like
1240
01:09:57,527 --> 01:10:00,430
a multi day hike to get to a
trailhead to get out of there.
1241
01:10:03,066 --> 01:10:06,236
- We got to the end of Fox
Lake and there was an old cabin
1242
01:10:06,270 --> 01:10:08,772
and we sat down for a break.
1243
01:10:08,805 --> 01:10:11,341
- We were all in good
spirits except for Joe.
1244
01:10:11,375 --> 01:10:14,944
He was real quiet and just
kind of keeping to himself.
1245
01:10:14,978 --> 01:10:17,914
- I remember I was sitting
on a rock just exhausted,
1246
01:10:17,947 --> 01:10:19,849
couldn't even move and
everybody else is like dancing
1247
01:10:19,883 --> 01:10:21,418
around and having a great time.
1248
01:10:21,451 --> 01:10:23,787
Like they hadn't been
hiking or anything.
1249
01:10:23,820 --> 01:10:25,855
So we got to the end of the
lake and there was a dam
1250
01:10:25,889 --> 01:10:27,924
and that's where the trail
splits off, where I knew
1251
01:10:27,957 --> 01:10:29,459
I could hike eight miles
and get out of there,
1252
01:10:29,493 --> 01:10:31,094
if I wanted, I was like, well,
1253
01:10:31,127 --> 01:10:33,597
I'm not dying,
I'm gonna be okay.
1254
01:10:48,678 --> 01:10:51,548
- Joe's got the beginning
stages of pulmonary edema.
1255
01:10:51,581 --> 01:10:53,783
So basically Joe's gotta bail.
1256
01:10:53,817 --> 01:10:56,085
- So we hiked about
another mile or so and
1257
01:10:56,119 --> 01:10:57,721
Joe had had enough.
1258
01:10:57,754 --> 01:11:00,490
He was coughing, he
couldn't catch his breath.
1259
01:11:00,524 --> 01:11:02,892
So he finally made the decision
1260
01:11:02,926 --> 01:11:04,561
that he was gonna
get out of there.
1261
01:11:04,594 --> 01:11:06,930
- Somethings wrong with
my lungs right now, so...
1262
01:11:09,265 --> 01:11:12,669
- He said, "Look, you
guys, I am not enjoying it.
1263
01:11:12,702 --> 01:11:16,473
"I didn't sleep, I'm
in pain, I'm coughing.
1264
01:11:16,506 --> 01:11:20,577
"And on top of that, my
hands are turning cold."
1265
01:11:20,610 --> 01:11:24,247
And I noticed when he was
holding his trekking staff
1266
01:11:24,280 --> 01:11:26,115
that his knuckles were white
1267
01:11:26,149 --> 01:11:27,351
that he knew at that point
1268
01:11:27,384 --> 01:11:28,952
that there's just really
nothing he could do.
1269
01:11:28,985 --> 01:11:30,320
He needed to get out of there.
1270
01:11:30,354 --> 01:11:32,155
And it just wasn't worth it.
1271
01:11:32,188 --> 01:11:33,523
It wasn't worth
risking his life.
1272
01:11:33,557 --> 01:11:35,959
- And I think he made
the right choice.
1273
01:11:35,992 --> 01:11:38,094
Anytime you're dealing
with that kind of issue,
1274
01:11:38,127 --> 01:11:39,796
it can be life threatening.
1275
01:11:39,829 --> 01:11:42,332
We had a brief discussion
about a helicopter,
1276
01:11:42,366 --> 01:11:44,868
a brief discussion
about a horse.
1277
01:11:44,901 --> 01:11:47,136
If you know Joe, he turned
those down pretty quickly.
1278
01:11:47,170 --> 01:11:48,271
- Hey, Gordy.
- So we found
1279
01:11:48,304 --> 01:11:49,939
an alternate route.
1280
01:11:49,973 --> 01:11:52,776
We made a satellite call
at Gordy who now was free.
1281
01:11:52,809 --> 01:11:55,879
- I'm gonna hike like an
eight mile side trail down
1282
01:11:55,912 --> 01:11:59,783
to a trailhead and Gordy
who got off yesterday.
1283
01:11:59,816 --> 01:12:02,051
He's gonna come pick me
up in the rental car.
1284
01:12:02,085 --> 01:12:04,988
So I'm out of here, but I
bet you guys will have fun.
1285
01:12:05,021 --> 01:12:06,890
Five more days to
go after today.
1286
01:12:06,923 --> 01:12:08,558
And I'll see you
guys at the end.
1287
01:12:08,592 --> 01:12:10,360
- So we all said our goodbyes,
1288
01:12:10,394 --> 01:12:13,563
and Joe headed down
the trail away from us.
1289
01:12:13,597 --> 01:12:15,999
And we were all pretty sad
because we really wanted
1290
01:12:16,032 --> 01:12:17,401
to complete the journey together
1291
01:12:17,434 --> 01:12:19,569
but it just wasn't in
the cards this time.
1292
01:12:26,443 --> 01:12:28,311
- It took me the whole day
to do that eight miles.
1293
01:12:28,344 --> 01:12:31,715
So it was probably 5.30 by
the time I got down there.
1294
01:12:31,748 --> 01:12:33,082
- How are you doing?
1295
01:12:33,116 --> 01:12:34,350
- All right, how
are you doing right?
1296
01:12:34,384 --> 01:12:35,719
- All right.
1297
01:12:35,752 --> 01:12:38,354
- Gordy had a pickup
truck and he had a half
1298
01:12:38,388 --> 01:12:40,156
of a turkey sub in the car
1299
01:12:40,189 --> 01:12:42,358
and it was the most amazing
sound I've ever had.
1300
01:12:42,392 --> 01:12:44,428
All of a sudden I went from
I don't feel like eating to,
1301
01:12:44,461 --> 01:12:46,329
oh, I do feel like eating.
1302
01:12:46,362 --> 01:12:49,165
It's amazing what getting
in a air conditioned vehicle
1303
01:12:49,198 --> 01:12:50,400
and knowing you don't
have to walk anymore
1304
01:12:50,434 --> 01:12:51,635
will do for your morale.
1305
01:12:53,036 --> 01:12:55,271
I was a little disappointed
that I wasn't able to finish
1306
01:12:55,304 --> 01:12:58,107
the trail but at the same time,
I just wasn't able to enjoy
1307
01:12:58,141 --> 01:13:01,044
it at all with how I felt
so it wasn't worth it.
1308
01:13:02,378 --> 01:13:04,948
I was able to catch a
flight out of Vernal,
1309
01:13:04,981 --> 01:13:07,451
Utah, the next day.
It was really good
1310
01:13:07,484 --> 01:13:09,453
getting back home
especially on this trip.
1311
01:13:09,486 --> 01:13:12,055
It took me a couple nights
of sleeping sitting up
1312
01:13:12,088 --> 01:13:14,691
until whatever was wrong my
lungs cleared out of there.
1313
01:13:14,724 --> 01:13:17,727
So everything kind of
worked out really well.
1314
01:13:18,662 --> 01:13:22,599
- So we were down to
five people. Four hikers
1315
01:13:22,632 --> 01:13:24,501
and our producer cameraman.
1316
01:14:02,171 --> 01:14:05,141
- Well today, really the one
thing that stands out to me
1317
01:14:05,174 --> 01:14:08,478
is we kind of lost
our captain, Joe,
1318
01:14:08,512 --> 01:14:11,648
the most experienced
hiker of the bunch.
1319
01:14:11,681 --> 01:14:13,850
He had to check out early
and I've hiked with Joe quite
1320
01:14:13,883 --> 01:14:18,087
a bit, and I've never seen him
like I saw him on this hike.
1321
01:14:18,121 --> 01:14:21,190
So we're definitely gonna
miss having him here with us.
1322
01:14:22,125 --> 01:14:23,993
- We're kind of beding
down for the night
1323
01:14:24,027 --> 01:14:27,564
getting ready for another
epic day tomorrow.
1324
01:14:28,498 --> 01:14:31,801
We go to the highest
point on this whole trip
1325
01:14:31,835 --> 01:14:34,704
We'll be climbing Kings Peak.
1326
01:14:34,738 --> 01:14:37,140
That's the highest point
in Utah so that'll be cool.
1327
01:14:37,173 --> 01:14:40,677
That'd be another high
point state for me.
1328
01:14:40,710 --> 01:14:42,512
I think we got a pretty
tough time in the morning
1329
01:14:42,546 --> 01:14:45,348
but I think a lot of
us are ready for it.
1330
01:14:45,381 --> 01:14:46,883
We're kind of used
to it at this point.
1331
01:14:46,916 --> 01:14:49,786
Should just be like
another day on the job.
1332
01:15:03,432 --> 01:15:05,802
- Today, we are climbing
up to Anderson Pass,
1333
01:15:05,835 --> 01:15:08,638
the highest point on
the Highline Trail
1334
01:15:08,672 --> 01:15:12,341
and then we are gonna take an
off-shoot up to King's peak,
1335
01:15:12,375 --> 01:15:14,544
the highest point in Utah.
1336
01:15:14,578 --> 01:15:16,980
So we'll see we're
gonna be about, man,
1337
01:15:17,013 --> 01:15:20,149
I think 3000 feet higher
than we are right now.
1338
01:15:20,183 --> 01:15:23,486
So it's gonna be pretty
crazy up there, I'm excited.
1339
01:15:23,519 --> 01:15:26,355
- I really am not crazy
about climbing 700 feet
1340
01:15:26,389 --> 01:15:29,726
straight up, but peer
pressure got the best of me
1341
01:15:29,759 --> 01:15:33,096
and I will be making that climb.
1342
01:15:33,129 --> 01:15:34,631
- Today is gonna be awesome.
1343
01:15:35,565 --> 01:15:38,935
We're gonna go really
high and pass out
1344
01:15:38,968 --> 01:15:41,470
because we're gonna not
have a lot of oxygen.
1345
01:15:42,572 --> 01:15:46,610
And then we're gonna hold up
a sign that says, Kings Peak,
1346
01:15:46,643 --> 01:15:48,778
and then we're gonna
like do crazy faces like.
1347
01:15:49,913 --> 01:15:52,381
UINTA!!!
1348
01:15:55,985 --> 01:15:57,220
Now my throat hurts.
1349
01:15:58,487 --> 01:16:00,957
UINTA!!
1350
01:16:15,639 --> 01:16:17,073
- This was our big day.
1351
01:16:17,106 --> 01:16:20,977
This was a day that we
were looking forward to.
1352
01:16:21,010 --> 01:16:23,613
But we were also a little
nervous and apprehensive about
1353
01:16:23,647 --> 01:16:26,449
because we knew we were gonna
be doing a lot of climbing.
1354
01:16:28,184 --> 01:16:30,253
- We weren't doing
huge miles on the hike,
1355
01:16:30,286 --> 01:16:33,657
we were only really doing
anywhere from eight to 12.
1356
01:16:33,690 --> 01:16:36,826
So that wasn't a big deal
but being above 10,000 feet
1357
01:16:36,860 --> 01:16:40,997
in elevation, a 3000 foot climb
just feels so much harder.
1358
01:16:49,005 --> 01:16:52,075
- We started making our
way to Anderson Pass.
1359
01:16:52,108 --> 01:16:56,079
It took a while. It meandered
and switchbacked and we
1360
01:16:56,112 --> 01:16:57,446
finally got there
1361
01:16:57,480 --> 01:16:59,182
and it was the first
pass that when you got
1362
01:16:59,215 --> 01:17:01,450
to the top it was like
dropping off a cliff
1363
01:17:01,484 --> 01:17:05,321
on the other side and just
a big expansive valley.
1364
01:17:06,455 --> 01:17:09,492
- So we could already feel it,
we could feel the elevation,
1365
01:17:09,525 --> 01:17:12,696
but the views were
just unbelievable.
1366
01:17:12,729 --> 01:17:16,432
- We put our packs off
to the side on some rocks
1367
01:17:16,465 --> 01:17:18,668
and just start
going up this peak,
1368
01:17:18,702 --> 01:17:21,170
all of a sudden the
trail disappears.
1369
01:17:21,204 --> 01:17:23,673
The side trail to the King's
Peak should not be called
1370
01:17:23,707 --> 01:17:27,310
the side trail to anywhere
because it is not a trail.
1371
01:17:27,343 --> 01:17:32,081
It is simply giant rocks
for 700 vertical feet,
1372
01:17:33,316 --> 01:17:35,151
all the way to the top.
1373
01:17:35,184 --> 01:17:37,486
- I've never seen a
mountain like this before,
1374
01:17:37,520 --> 01:17:41,891
it was just a pile of rocks,
rocks that are about anywhere
1375
01:17:41,925 --> 01:17:45,528
from the size of a coffee
table to the size of a car.
1376
01:17:45,561 --> 01:17:49,532
And you have to just kind
of hop from rock to rock
1377
01:17:49,565 --> 01:17:51,534
and just hope that
you don't fall.
1378
01:17:51,567 --> 01:17:53,069
- I don't think anybody
really expected it
1379
01:17:53,102 --> 01:17:55,839
to be as difficult
as it actually was.
1380
01:17:55,872 --> 01:17:59,709
Some parts of it, we were
actually going hand over hand
1381
01:17:59,743 --> 01:18:03,579
and it just kept
going up and up and up
1382
01:18:03,612 --> 01:18:07,817
and I complained, I
bitched the entire way.
1383
01:18:07,851 --> 01:18:11,054
I yelled at
everybody, I was mad.
1384
01:18:11,087 --> 01:18:13,356
I was like, why are
you making me do this?
1385
01:18:13,389 --> 01:18:14,991
You said I was gonna
have cell phone
1386
01:18:15,024 --> 01:18:17,093
service halfway
up this mountain.
1387
01:18:17,126 --> 01:18:19,362
That's the only reason I'm
coming up this mountain
1388
01:18:19,395 --> 01:18:22,331
so I can call my girlfriend,
was their cell phone service?
1389
01:18:22,365 --> 01:18:24,300
No, there was no
cell phone service.
1390
01:18:43,586 --> 01:18:45,454
- It is completely
rewarding being up here
1391
01:18:45,488 --> 01:18:47,523
and doing it with these guys.
1392
01:18:47,556 --> 01:18:49,759
Makes it all that much better.
1393
01:18:49,793 --> 01:18:51,194
These guys let me tag along.
1394
01:18:51,227 --> 01:18:53,329
I feel pretty grateful
and lucky for that.
1395
01:18:54,563 --> 01:18:56,800
- It was a good time,
and here we are.
1396
01:18:57,767 --> 01:19:00,804
- The Highest point in
Utah. Here's to Utah.
1397
01:19:09,078 --> 01:19:11,781
- It's one of the reasons why
I hike is for those moments
1398
01:19:11,815 --> 01:19:13,983
and it was a moment that
I'm not gonna forget.
1399
01:19:23,860 --> 01:19:25,829
- We made our way back
down Anderson Pass
1400
01:19:25,862 --> 01:19:28,264
which took almost as long
as it took to get back up
1401
01:19:28,297 --> 01:19:31,734
because you couldn't move
fast 'cause there's no trail.
1402
01:19:31,767 --> 01:19:34,237
- We're all sitting
there at Anderson Pass
1403
01:19:34,270 --> 01:19:35,972
and we're just kind of relaxing
1404
01:19:36,005 --> 01:19:38,607
and Will says, is that a
patch of snow on the side of
1405
01:19:38,641 --> 01:19:40,609
that mountain, I look at it
and I seen the head move,
1406
01:19:40,643 --> 01:19:42,846
I was like, no, that's
a mountain goat.
1407
01:19:42,879 --> 01:19:44,848
That's first time I ever
seen a mountain goat.
1408
01:20:23,086 --> 01:20:27,857
- So we're coming down from
King's Peak, none of us
1409
01:20:27,891 --> 01:20:29,959
were smart enough to bring
enough water with us.
1410
01:20:29,993 --> 01:20:32,528
So we're all out of water,
we're in this valley.
1411
01:20:32,561 --> 01:20:36,665
We can't find any, we're
thirsty, and that sucks.
1412
01:20:53,349 --> 01:20:57,086
- So we saw some herds of
sheep, two or three times,
1413
01:20:57,120 --> 01:21:00,523
and you would hear
'em ahead of time.
1414
01:21:00,556 --> 01:21:04,860
And I said, why are those
sheep making so much noise?
1415
01:21:04,894 --> 01:21:08,097
And Benny just makes this up.
1416
01:21:08,131 --> 01:21:10,499
He says, "Oh,
they're just trying
1417
01:21:10,533 --> 01:21:11,901
"to tell each other
that we're coming."
1418
01:21:11,935 --> 01:21:14,003
And he was totally serious
1419
01:21:14,037 --> 01:21:16,539
It was the biggest
crock of crap.
1420
01:21:16,572 --> 01:21:21,310
- I've never heard
so much bahing in my
life, like .
1421
01:21:22,045 --> 01:21:23,612
It was kind of crazy.
1422
01:21:23,646 --> 01:21:25,348
- There are sheep drive
lines that do cross the trail
1423
01:21:25,381 --> 01:21:27,716
at times, we've had
almost 150 years
1424
01:21:27,750 --> 01:21:29,919
of grazing history
in the Uintas.
1425
01:21:29,953 --> 01:21:32,588
Sheep grazing mainly
in the high elevations.
1426
01:21:32,621 --> 01:21:33,957
And the Uintas are
a primitive area,
1427
01:21:33,990 --> 01:21:35,558
now they're a wilderness
area, but it's still part
1428
01:21:35,591 --> 01:21:36,892
of our public land system.
1429
01:21:36,926 --> 01:21:39,929
So grazing is still
an acceptable use.
1430
01:21:56,745 --> 01:21:58,614
- Well, today was definitely
one of the hardest days
1431
01:21:58,647 --> 01:22:00,249
of hiking that I've ever had.
1432
01:22:00,283 --> 01:22:02,751
And that's saying a lot 'cause
I've hiked a lot of miles,
1433
01:22:02,785 --> 01:22:04,320
a lot of places, a
lot of countries,
1434
01:22:04,353 --> 01:22:08,424
but the climbing
was pretty insane.
1435
01:22:08,457 --> 01:22:11,794
And the sun was just
beating on us all day long.
1436
01:22:11,827 --> 01:22:14,830
The water was plentiful
on the way up,
1437
01:22:14,863 --> 01:22:16,932
but on the way down,
we kind of ran out.
1438
01:22:16,966 --> 01:22:19,935
So we were hiking without
water for a while.
1439
01:22:19,969 --> 01:22:22,171
So we were a little parched.
1440
01:22:22,205 --> 01:22:24,140
Pretty much ran
down the mountain
1441
01:22:24,173 --> 01:22:26,242
so that I could get
to water source.
1442
01:22:26,275 --> 01:22:29,412
So as you can see, I'm in a
reclined position right now
1443
01:22:29,445 --> 01:22:31,514
that's because I'm literally
about to fall asleep.
1444
01:22:31,547 --> 01:22:33,349
I just ate my food.
1445
01:22:33,382 --> 01:22:35,151
And I'm gonna go
climb into my tent,
1446
01:22:35,184 --> 01:22:37,186
and we're gonna do it
all over again tomorrow.
1447
01:22:58,674 --> 01:23:03,646
- Usually I wake up a little
chipper, didn't happen today.
1448
01:23:04,647 --> 01:23:08,451
- My name is Steve
Kaiser, and I'm 60.
1449
01:23:08,484 --> 01:23:10,186
And I feel like my
life has been a life
1450
01:23:10,219 --> 01:23:14,357
of adventure and enjoyment,
for the most part.
1451
01:23:14,390 --> 01:23:19,362
- Steve is like a mix of a big
brother and another father.
1452
01:23:19,395 --> 01:23:22,565
He's just this big,
jovial personality.
1453
01:23:22,598 --> 01:23:24,867
He's always optimistic.
1454
01:23:24,900 --> 01:23:27,070
He's a person who's not
afraid to give a compliment.
1455
01:23:27,103 --> 01:23:29,905
He will always find
something positive to say
1456
01:23:29,938 --> 01:23:33,576
about you to build you up
and to make you feel good.
1457
01:23:33,609 --> 01:23:35,378
- When you're down
or you're feeling it.
1458
01:23:35,411 --> 01:23:36,912
Your legs are feeling it.
1459
01:23:36,945 --> 01:23:38,481
Steve will come up and
he'll just make you laugh,
1460
01:23:38,514 --> 01:23:39,815
and make you smile.
1461
01:23:39,848 --> 01:23:41,050
- There's only so
much oxygen here
1462
01:23:41,084 --> 01:23:43,619
and I need it to
breathe, not laugh.
1463
01:23:44,587 --> 01:23:47,056
- And don't tell him
that he's 60 years old
1464
01:23:47,090 --> 01:23:48,891
because he's hiking
with all us young guys.
1465
01:23:48,924 --> 01:23:51,060
Sometimes he's moving
faster than us.
1466
01:23:51,094 --> 01:23:52,895
He pretty much started
hiking with Joe
1467
01:23:52,928 --> 01:23:54,263
and Matt right
from the beginning.
1468
01:23:54,297 --> 01:23:56,599
So all he's ever
known is moving fast.
1469
01:23:56,632 --> 01:23:58,734
So Steve is just crazy.
1470
01:23:58,767 --> 01:24:00,736
Honestly, I really
aspire to be like Steve,
1471
01:24:00,769 --> 01:24:02,738
when I'm his age, you know,
in that good of shape.
1472
01:24:02,771 --> 01:24:07,710
- Steve is a crazy character,
I absolutely love Steve.
1473
01:24:08,944 --> 01:24:10,513
If you're not laughing
when you're around Steve,
1474
01:24:10,546 --> 01:24:12,248
then you're deaf.
1475
01:24:12,281 --> 01:24:13,582
- I love hiking.
1476
01:24:14,483 --> 01:24:17,753
Well, I love everything
except the walking.
1477
01:24:17,786 --> 01:24:21,090
- Can be moody at times so
we tease him about that.
1478
01:24:21,124 --> 01:24:22,425
He gets Hangry.
1479
01:24:22,458 --> 01:24:24,293
- Look a bone!
1480
01:24:27,896 --> 01:24:32,268
- But just a great guy who
would do anything for you.
1481
01:24:32,301 --> 01:24:34,437
- He's had a crazy
life, you know,
1482
01:24:34,470 --> 01:24:36,872
he's lived in a bunch
of different places.
1483
01:24:36,905 --> 01:24:38,040
He just has a lot of stories.
1484
01:24:38,073 --> 01:24:41,110
He's a real interesting
guy to hang around with.
1485
01:24:41,144 --> 01:24:43,612
- I have some core
passions that really
1486
01:24:43,646 --> 01:24:45,681
have been with me all my life.
1487
01:24:46,915 --> 01:24:49,485
I have to work with my hands.
1488
01:24:49,518 --> 01:24:52,121
I do a lot of original
designs, you know,
1489
01:24:52,155 --> 01:24:55,758
nothing really too
complex, more artistic.
1490
01:24:55,791 --> 01:24:58,127
I make a lot of
gifts for people.
1491
01:24:59,328 --> 01:25:04,233
So woodworking and metalworking
those are two very important
1492
01:25:04,267 --> 01:25:07,136
core passions of mine
and also fitness,
1493
01:25:07,170 --> 01:25:11,174
I try to be as fit as possible.
1494
01:25:11,207 --> 01:25:14,777
As a person, just my
overall path in life,
1495
01:25:14,810 --> 01:25:18,514
I just feel solid and
I'm happy, I'm content
1496
01:25:18,547 --> 01:25:21,184
and my life is perfect.
1497
01:25:28,191 --> 01:25:30,058
- Life before hiking,
1498
01:25:32,361 --> 01:25:37,366
was, well, a lot transpired
around the same time
1499
01:25:37,400 --> 01:25:42,171
I started hiking, so my
life is very different now.
1500
01:25:42,205 --> 01:25:45,608
My life of addiction
actually began when I was
1501
01:25:45,641 --> 01:25:50,646
about three or four years old,
being the youngest of five,
1502
01:25:51,914 --> 01:25:55,484
I guess I was a surprise for
parents that were over age 40.
1503
01:25:56,819 --> 01:26:01,357
My two older sisters were
15 and 17 when I was born,
1504
01:26:02,391 --> 01:26:04,827
and by time I was
three, they were gone.
1505
01:26:04,860 --> 01:26:08,631
So, back in the 60s they
didn't know about abandonment
1506
01:26:08,664 --> 01:26:12,235
issues and all of that, you
know, it just wasn't a thing.
1507
01:26:12,268 --> 01:26:15,871
But it's real, so my
life changed at that time
1508
01:26:15,904 --> 01:26:20,175
and I kind of went
dark for 52 years.
1509
01:26:24,280 --> 01:26:27,883
My parents back then
they smoked about eight
1510
01:26:27,916 --> 01:26:32,688
or 10 packs a day between them,
just lighting one cigarette
1511
01:26:32,721 --> 01:26:36,259
off the other, and so I would
get cigarettes just take them,
1512
01:26:36,292 --> 01:26:39,194
just steal them and they
would never miss them.
1513
01:26:39,228 --> 01:26:42,398
But I was addicted where
I needed a cigarette.
1514
01:26:42,431 --> 01:26:45,200
I was addicted by time I
was four or five years old.
1515
01:26:59,282 --> 01:27:04,052
From age 27, I had been
involved with AA or NA,
1516
01:27:06,088 --> 01:27:10,426
and most of my adult life
from age 20 to age 55,
1517
01:27:10,459 --> 01:27:13,896
I only had six years cumulative
1518
01:27:13,929 --> 01:27:17,099
of active alcoholism
or addiction.
1519
01:27:17,132 --> 01:27:20,369
All those other years
were just dry years
1520
01:27:20,403 --> 01:27:23,639
trying to be sober,
but miserable.
1521
01:27:24,940 --> 01:27:29,478
And throughout my adult life,
I had probably six bad spikes
1522
01:27:30,679 --> 01:27:33,549
of depression where I really
needed to go get help.
1523
01:27:33,582 --> 01:27:36,719
I would go to AA, I would go
to NA, I'd work the steps,
1524
01:27:36,752 --> 01:27:40,656
I would get sponsors, and the
story was always the same.
1525
01:27:40,689 --> 01:27:42,057
When I was three years old.
1526
01:27:42,090 --> 01:27:43,959
My two older sisters had left me
1527
01:27:43,992 --> 01:27:46,362
so it just stopped right there.
1528
01:27:47,496 --> 01:27:50,433
There was no more, there
were no more questions
1529
01:27:50,466 --> 01:27:53,569
about any other trauma.
1530
01:27:53,602 --> 01:27:56,138
And so I had had other abuses
1531
01:27:56,171 --> 01:27:58,474
that I didn't realize
were a factor.
1532
01:27:58,507 --> 01:28:03,512
And I struggled with that
until I was about 55 years old.
1533
01:28:07,550 --> 01:28:12,120
I discovered hiking as a
series of random events
1534
01:28:12,154 --> 01:28:17,159
that began with reading a
novel entitled, "Lone wolf."
1535
01:28:18,327 --> 01:28:21,964
And in that novel, there
were things mentioned
1536
01:28:21,997 --> 01:28:25,868
about hiking and things
like that or wilderness.
1537
01:28:25,901 --> 01:28:30,906
And I got this idea of hiking
the Pacific Crest Trail.
1538
01:28:31,507 --> 01:28:35,911
My motivation was pretty dark.
1539
01:28:36,745 --> 01:28:39,214
Actually, I'd been to therapists
1540
01:28:39,247 --> 01:28:42,050
and psychiatrists
and nothing worked.
1541
01:28:43,318 --> 01:28:47,923
Nothing could help, and suicidal
thoughts were escalating.
1542
01:28:49,992 --> 01:28:54,997
And my plan was to go out
to California in 2014,
1543
01:28:59,902 --> 01:29:01,904
and hike the Pacific Crest Trail
1544
01:29:01,937 --> 01:29:05,340
and just die and
just not come back.
1545
01:29:05,374 --> 01:29:07,643
I was not coming back.
1546
01:29:07,676 --> 01:29:10,345
I knew I just did not
wanna live anymore.
1547
01:29:15,618 --> 01:29:19,722
I researched probably
200 websites,
1548
01:29:19,755 --> 01:29:22,224
looking at gear of
just reading about it.
1549
01:29:22,257 --> 01:29:24,927
I had not done any
hikes at that time.
1550
01:29:24,960 --> 01:29:28,431
That's how I met Joe Valesko.
1551
01:29:28,464 --> 01:29:30,499
- Steve Kaiser is a
good friend of ours.
1552
01:29:30,533 --> 01:29:33,836
He started off as a customer,
he had bought something
1553
01:29:33,869 --> 01:29:36,772
or other and he came to
the shop to pick it up.
1554
01:29:36,805 --> 01:29:39,374
And we were going on a
like a short section hike
1555
01:29:39,408 --> 01:29:41,376
of the AT in a couple of weeks.
1556
01:29:41,410 --> 01:29:42,845
And we just happen to
ask him if he wanted
1557
01:29:42,878 --> 01:29:44,680
to come on the hike with us.
1558
01:29:44,713 --> 01:29:49,718
- And I thought, "what?" Do
you see what you're looking at?
1559
01:29:50,786 --> 01:29:53,689
I'm an old fat man, I can't
even walk barely, you know,
1560
01:29:53,722 --> 01:29:57,460
and here's Joe like not even
30 years old inviting me
1561
01:29:57,493 --> 01:29:59,628
on this hike and I was
a little uncomfortable
1562
01:29:59,662 --> 01:30:03,466
with it wondering, what
the correct answer was,
1563
01:30:03,499 --> 01:30:05,434
of course, I wanted
to go but I felt like,
1564
01:30:05,468 --> 01:30:08,370
oh my God, I'm gonna be
imposing on these people.
1565
01:30:08,403 --> 01:30:13,408
Well, I went with him, his
wife Sheryl and Matt Favero.
1566
01:30:14,910 --> 01:30:16,912
That's when I first met Matt.
1567
01:30:16,945 --> 01:30:19,247
He was a little scary at first,
1568
01:30:19,281 --> 01:30:20,783
but really hit it off with them.
1569
01:30:37,933 --> 01:30:42,237
I went to treatment,
and the therapist said,
1570
01:30:42,270 --> 01:30:43,739
"I'm gonna put you
in the trauma group."
1571
01:30:43,772 --> 01:30:46,074
So I go the trauma group, and
there's about three people
1572
01:30:46,108 --> 01:30:49,111
in there plus the therapist.
1573
01:30:49,144 --> 01:30:53,281
And she said, "Well, you know,
Steve, why are you here?"
1574
01:30:54,316 --> 01:30:59,087
And it just came out with this
sexual abuse I had as a kid,
1575
01:30:59,121 --> 01:31:03,859
10, 11, 12, 13 years old, a
couple of different incidences.
1576
01:31:04,527 --> 01:31:06,595
And I remember saying it
1577
01:31:06,629 --> 01:31:09,297
and then feeling
this feeling inside.
1578
01:31:09,331 --> 01:31:12,968
And I just said, "I
guess it was important".
1579
01:31:13,001 --> 01:31:14,703
And I just started sobbing.
1580
01:31:15,838 --> 01:31:18,173
I had no idea I was
carrying this around.
1581
01:31:19,341 --> 01:31:22,511
I was free at that
moment, because I'd worked
1582
01:31:22,545 --> 01:31:25,514
on so many other
things in my life.
1583
01:31:25,548 --> 01:31:29,785
There really wasn't
anything left, except that.
1584
01:31:29,818 --> 01:31:33,556
Since then, I haven't
had any more depression.
1585
01:31:33,589 --> 01:31:38,594
No more thoughts of suicide
at any level whatsoever.
1586
01:31:39,662 --> 01:31:43,532
It was a very fortunate
event, because I think a lot
1587
01:31:43,566 --> 01:31:46,168
of people are walking
around with those things
1588
01:31:46,201 --> 01:31:48,303
that they don't know
how to get rid of.
1589
01:31:48,336 --> 01:31:50,739
And I was one of the lucky ones.
1590
01:31:50,773 --> 01:31:52,575
- That was probably
five, six years ago.
1591
01:31:52,608 --> 01:31:54,176
And ever since then,
he's been coming on
1592
01:31:54,209 --> 01:31:56,344
almost all the hikes that we do.
1593
01:31:56,378 --> 01:31:59,014
He does great, he keeps
up with us, no problem.
1594
01:31:59,047 --> 01:32:00,916
We have to keep up with
him, half the time.
1595
01:32:09,191 --> 01:32:11,159
- All right, so
today is day seven.
1596
01:32:11,193 --> 01:32:12,394
It's gonna be one
of our easier days.
1597
01:32:12,427 --> 01:32:14,529
We've got about just
a little over 10 miles
1598
01:32:14,563 --> 01:32:16,531
and we 1700 feet
in elevation gain,
1599
01:32:16,565 --> 01:32:19,401
which is about half of
what we did yesterday.
1600
01:32:19,434 --> 01:32:21,604
We're gonna go over
Tungsten Pass immediately.
1601
01:32:21,637 --> 01:32:24,072
Then we've got Porcupine
Pass, and then we're looking
1602
01:32:24,106 --> 01:32:26,241
forward to that Red
Beard dance party.
1603
01:32:26,274 --> 01:32:28,110
When we get to camp early today.
1604
01:33:36,278 --> 01:33:39,748
- Growing up my dad always
had nice minerals and rocks,
1605
01:33:39,782 --> 01:33:42,685
you know around the house
from places that he went.
1606
01:33:42,718 --> 01:33:47,122
And so doing this hike,
you just see all kinds.
1607
01:33:47,155 --> 01:33:50,458
This just gives you a little
sampling of these red,
1608
01:33:50,492 --> 01:33:53,662
there's purple, there's
green, there's yellow.
1609
01:33:54,496 --> 01:33:55,463
Just beautiful.
1610
01:34:06,909 --> 01:34:08,677
- My name is Ryan Buerkle,
1611
01:34:08,711 --> 01:34:10,713
I'm the Recreation
Program Manager
1612
01:34:10,746 --> 01:34:12,647
for the Ashley National Forest.
1613
01:34:12,681 --> 01:34:14,282
Once you're on the
Highline Trail,
1614
01:34:14,316 --> 01:34:16,451
especially in those high
basins, you're gonna come
1615
01:34:16,484 --> 01:34:18,821
along these big rock cairns,
1616
01:34:18,854 --> 01:34:21,523
Six to eight foot
high pile of rocks.
1617
01:34:21,556 --> 01:34:23,658
And what those are for
is for way finding.
1618
01:34:23,692 --> 01:34:26,695
So you can see from
one cairn to the next,
1619
01:34:26,729 --> 01:34:28,897
and see where you're
supposed to head towards.
1620
01:34:28,931 --> 01:34:31,066
Because in that alpine tundra,
1621
01:34:31,099 --> 01:34:34,536
there's not a specific
worn in trail tread.
1622
01:34:34,569 --> 01:34:37,973
It's just walking across
a natural landscape.
1623
01:34:38,006 --> 01:34:40,709
- Stone cairns are a
difficulty for archaeologists,
1624
01:34:40,743 --> 01:34:43,145
because you can't
just date stones.
1625
01:34:43,178 --> 01:34:45,380
So basically, unless
someone's already identified
1626
01:34:45,413 --> 01:34:47,916
them historically, and you can
go back to a historic record
1627
01:34:47,950 --> 01:34:49,818
and know that one was there.
1628
01:34:49,852 --> 01:34:51,353
There's really no way
to know necessarily
1629
01:34:51,386 --> 01:34:52,988
when they were built.
1630
01:34:53,021 --> 01:34:55,390
Sheep herders are a kind of
well known for making some
1631
01:34:55,423 --> 01:34:57,760
of the more complicated
cairns that you might see,
1632
01:34:57,793 --> 01:35:01,529
like some of the nice
sort of cylindrical ones.
1633
01:35:01,563 --> 01:35:04,499
The hard aspect of that too,
is the fact that what you see
1634
01:35:04,532 --> 01:35:06,769
in a lot of wilderness
areas and public lands,
1635
01:35:06,802 --> 01:35:08,370
especially in the West,
1636
01:35:08,403 --> 01:35:10,939
is a lot of the hikers
creating cairns themselves.
1637
01:35:12,140 --> 01:35:14,176
Existing human infrastructure
that's already there.
1638
01:35:14,209 --> 01:35:17,379
That's historic, we like
it and it's good stuff.
1639
01:35:17,412 --> 01:35:20,682
But as far as creating
new infrastructure
or new structures,
1640
01:35:20,715 --> 01:35:22,751
whether out of trees or
rock or anything else,
1641
01:35:22,785 --> 01:35:24,186
that's something
that's kind of a big
1642
01:35:24,219 --> 01:35:25,788
no, no in the wilderness,
we wanna try to leave
1643
01:35:25,821 --> 01:35:27,422
that as untrammeled as possible.
1644
01:35:34,662 --> 01:35:37,599
- I was walking along
the rock path yesterday,
1645
01:35:37,632 --> 01:35:40,368
one of the rocks turned over
and the sharp edge of the rock
1646
01:35:40,402 --> 01:35:43,038
went "pow" right into
the side of my shoe.
1647
01:35:43,071 --> 01:35:46,574
I screamed a few choice words
at the rock and kept going
1648
01:35:46,608 --> 01:35:48,310
and I just realized
that hey, look at this.
1649
01:35:48,343 --> 01:35:50,045
I got a nice bruise from it.
1650
01:35:50,078 --> 01:35:51,279
- What are you gonna do?
1651
01:35:53,415 --> 01:35:57,419
- Towards the end of our
day, we got to a location
1652
01:35:57,452 --> 01:35:59,955
and we stopped there initially
just to take a break.
1653
01:35:59,988 --> 01:36:04,259
But it was so incredible
that we all just kind of came
1654
01:36:04,292 --> 01:36:07,395
to the conclusion rather
quickly that this was a great
1655
01:36:07,429 --> 01:36:09,097
place to spend the night.
1656
01:36:24,813 --> 01:36:27,349
- Around 10.30 I
climbed out of my tent.
1657
01:36:27,382 --> 01:36:30,252
The stars were just incredible.
1658
01:36:30,285 --> 01:36:32,520
They were unlike anything
I'd ever seen before.
1659
01:36:32,554 --> 01:36:35,023
And I just remember standing
there and taking it all
1660
01:36:35,057 --> 01:36:38,460
in for a few minutes before
climbing back in my tent
1661
01:36:38,493 --> 01:36:41,163
and going to sleep that night.
1662
01:37:18,901 --> 01:37:20,668
- Steve here, he had
to go to the bathroom.
1663
01:37:20,702 --> 01:37:22,204
We just started
hiking so he went off
1664
01:37:22,237 --> 01:37:24,839
into the woods to do number two.
1665
01:37:33,916 --> 01:37:35,317
- No way.
1666
01:37:35,350 --> 01:37:37,986
- He just got an Elk to
freken call back at him.
1667
01:37:38,020 --> 01:37:39,888
The Elk's like, "I wanna
hang out with you".
1668
01:37:45,860 --> 01:37:48,230
- It was amazing.
1669
01:38:18,994 --> 01:38:22,430
- As we climbed up Red Knob
Pass, the beauty around us
1670
01:38:22,464 --> 01:38:24,066
was just spectacular again
1671
01:38:24,099 --> 01:38:26,401
like it had been on
this entire hike.
1672
01:38:26,434 --> 01:38:30,572
But once we reach the top of
the pass, I'll never forget it.
1673
01:38:30,605 --> 01:38:35,343
It was by far the best pass
that we had been up so far.
1674
01:38:39,781 --> 01:38:43,618
It was almost 360
degrees of mountains
1675
01:38:43,651 --> 01:38:46,588
with a deep valley,
almost a canyon.
1676
01:39:27,295 --> 01:39:30,765
- We did this right going from
east to west on this trail.
1677
01:39:30,798 --> 01:39:32,334
Every day was great.
1678
01:39:32,367 --> 01:39:35,937
And the next day was even
better and today was the best.
1679
01:39:35,970 --> 01:39:38,640
The whole mountain
range was just so much
1680
01:39:38,673 --> 01:39:41,876
more defined and
jagged and pretty.
1681
01:39:41,909 --> 01:39:43,345
Everything was
just better today.
1682
01:39:55,690 --> 01:39:59,627
- My name is Benny Braden,
I'm Electrician by trade,
1683
01:39:59,661 --> 01:40:01,863
but I also have a great
passion for backpacking.
1684
01:40:03,231 --> 01:40:05,633
First of all, I'm
follower of Christ,
1685
01:40:05,667 --> 01:40:09,271
and I absolutely love my family.
1686
01:40:10,238 --> 01:40:13,475
- Benny is Mr. Loyalty, if
you need him, he'll be there.
1687
01:40:13,508 --> 01:40:17,845
He'll drive hours to help you,
he really values friendship,
1688
01:40:17,879 --> 01:40:20,715
and he values a
quality relationship,
1689
01:40:20,748 --> 01:40:22,150
whether that be with his family,
1690
01:40:22,184 --> 01:40:24,986
his friends or the
hiking community.
1691
01:40:25,019 --> 01:40:27,922
- Benny is one of the
most passionate guys
1692
01:40:27,955 --> 01:40:29,924
when it comes to hiking
that I've ever met.
1693
01:40:29,957 --> 01:40:33,361
He is pretty much
always on a trail.
1694
01:40:33,395 --> 01:40:36,664
He holds some records, he's the
fastest person to ever hike.
1695
01:40:36,698 --> 01:40:39,101
All the trails in the Great
Smoky Mountain National Park
1696
01:40:39,134 --> 01:40:41,503
is about 900 miles of trail.
1697
01:40:41,536 --> 01:40:44,672
- I think Benny is the
most physically fit
1698
01:40:44,706 --> 01:40:48,443
45 year old I have
ever met in my life.
1699
01:40:48,476 --> 01:40:50,278
- He's a man of few words.
1700
01:40:50,312 --> 01:40:52,847
He's an electrician by
trade, and I guess he's able
1701
01:40:52,880 --> 01:40:55,883
to just stop his business
and then his clients wait
1702
01:40:55,917 --> 01:40:58,553
for him and when he gets
back to town, he picks up
1703
01:40:58,586 --> 01:41:01,389
where he left off and he's
able to make enough money
1704
01:41:01,423 --> 01:41:03,891
to basically support himself
and support his hiking.
1705
01:41:04,892 --> 01:41:08,696
- When I was growing up,
I was, I like to say,
1706
01:41:08,730 --> 01:41:11,933
I was a good son, I
was a pretty quiet kid,
1707
01:41:11,966 --> 01:41:15,069
and I really enjoyed
just being outside.
1708
01:41:25,580 --> 01:41:28,250
In the early 2000s,
I used to be an EMT.
1709
01:41:29,351 --> 01:41:34,389
I did it because I would
hope that someone would do
1710
01:41:34,422 --> 01:41:37,192
something for my family
member if they were in need.
1711
01:41:38,326 --> 01:41:40,495
It is a great opportunity,
I enjoyed it at the time.
1712
01:41:59,347 --> 01:42:04,186
It's tough to do that job
and have a normal life.
1713
01:42:06,821 --> 01:42:10,758
We did all kinds of
calls, mostly medical,
1714
01:42:10,792 --> 01:42:12,794
that they could
range from anything
1715
01:42:12,827 --> 01:42:17,565
from a vehicle
accident, to drownings.
1716
01:42:22,970 --> 01:42:27,709
To spare everybody the
graphic nature of that job,
1717
01:42:27,742 --> 01:42:29,377
I just simply tell folks,
1718
01:42:29,411 --> 01:42:31,979
I've seen people die every
way they can possibly die.
1719
01:42:40,255 --> 01:42:45,059
Those kind of events can
really impact you mentally.
1720
01:42:46,561 --> 01:42:50,398
Whenever I would leave a
scene, I would just block it
1721
01:42:50,432 --> 01:42:55,437
out in my mind as if it didn't
happen, and I would go on
1722
01:42:56,037 --> 01:42:58,240
with my normal daily routine.
1723
01:42:59,374 --> 01:43:03,411
And when I was on call, if
I was let's say extricating
1724
01:43:03,445 --> 01:43:08,115
a person from a
vehicle, I wouldn't make
patient eye contact
1725
01:43:09,183 --> 01:43:11,219
because it wasn't
human at that point.
1726
01:43:12,220 --> 01:43:15,923
I'd focus mostly on moving
the metal of the vehicle
1727
01:43:15,957 --> 01:43:20,061
to get that person out,
and that allowed me
1728
01:43:20,094 --> 01:43:22,664
to just kind of "out
of sight out of mind".
1729
01:43:22,697 --> 01:43:24,532
And that worked for years,
1730
01:43:25,633 --> 01:43:28,903
until after I was
completely out of the field.
1731
01:43:30,972 --> 01:43:33,608
I first noticed
the effects of it,
1732
01:43:34,242 --> 01:43:36,077
shortly after we got married.
1733
01:43:37,078 --> 01:43:40,548
I had a son from a
previous marriage,
1734
01:43:40,582 --> 01:43:43,451
and Ashley had her two daughters
from a previous marriage.
1735
01:43:44,452 --> 01:43:47,255
In addition to that,
my brother passed away
1736
01:43:47,289 --> 01:43:50,091
in that same time period,
and he had two girls.
1737
01:44:08,343 --> 01:44:12,747
Most people call it PTSD, post
traumatic stress disorder.
1738
01:44:13,681 --> 01:44:17,251
Nobody wants to be
labeled with a disorder.
1739
01:44:17,285 --> 01:44:20,655
So that's why choose
simply to call it PTS.
1740
01:44:23,190 --> 01:44:28,463
You try to block out some stuff
but at some point in time,
1741
01:44:29,297 --> 01:44:30,298
you can't block out anymore.
1742
01:44:37,805 --> 01:44:39,941
It sent me into a
very deep depression.
1743
01:44:41,309 --> 01:44:46,548
- To see Benny go through
PTS was really heartbreaking.
1744
01:44:47,882 --> 01:44:50,752
It was kind of like walking
on eggshells all the time.
1745
01:44:50,785 --> 01:44:53,020
- I would just become
a monster I would yell
1746
01:44:53,054 --> 01:44:56,758
and scream. Not just at
Ashley, but at the kids.
1747
01:44:56,791 --> 01:44:59,594
- Then he would leave and he'd
say gone through the night
1748
01:44:59,627 --> 01:45:03,230
he would go park in a
parking lot and sleep.
1749
01:45:04,332 --> 01:45:09,170
- And before I knew it, there
was an attempt at suicide.
1750
01:45:14,642 --> 01:45:17,211
I woke up a day or two later,
1751
01:45:17,244 --> 01:45:19,514
being evaluated in
a mental hospital.
1752
01:45:20,815 --> 01:45:23,785
- That was definitely a
hard thing to go through.
1753
01:45:23,818 --> 01:45:25,987
And I did a lot of praying.
1754
01:45:26,020 --> 01:45:28,322
But I knew that there would come
1755
01:45:28,356 --> 01:45:31,192
a time where it would be over.
1756
01:45:31,225 --> 01:45:35,162
So you just have to
like, work through it.
1757
01:45:35,196 --> 01:45:37,532
And I wasn't gonna stop
loving him no matter what.
1758
01:45:50,845 --> 01:45:54,549
- Whenever I'm on a
long hike, I pray a lot.
1759
01:45:54,582 --> 01:45:58,185
Talk to God a lot, just
try to clear out my mind.
1760
01:45:58,219 --> 01:46:01,956
And I started
seeing some answers.
1761
01:46:02,957 --> 01:46:05,092
It's like I have a
huge desk in my brain
1762
01:46:06,193 --> 01:46:11,065
and is just piled up with
images of different events.
1763
01:46:11,866 --> 01:46:13,334
It's like I can take
one of those images
1764
01:46:14,669 --> 01:46:18,205
and look at it and pray
about it, meditate about it,
1765
01:46:18,239 --> 01:46:19,907
and try to make
some sense of it.
1766
01:46:19,941 --> 01:46:23,010
Now some things I don't
ever make sense of,
1767
01:46:23,044 --> 01:46:24,812
like why did this
one child have die?
1768
01:46:26,247 --> 01:46:29,216
Or why did this family
have to suffer this loss?
1769
01:46:29,250 --> 01:46:32,219
Some things I simply
cannot answer,
1770
01:46:32,253 --> 01:46:34,722
but I'm able to
make sense of it.
1771
01:46:35,823 --> 01:46:37,459
So that allows me to move on.
1772
01:46:38,225 --> 01:46:40,728
Then I can pull another image.
1773
01:46:40,762 --> 01:46:44,799
Now it might take me a
day to deal with that.
1774
01:46:44,832 --> 01:46:47,602
It might take me the whole
hike to deal with it,
1775
01:46:48,770 --> 01:46:52,106
but at least that's one
situation that I've dealt with.
1776
01:46:53,274 --> 01:46:54,108
And I can move on.
1777
01:46:55,743 --> 01:46:58,480
My whole demeanor was
different, it was changing me.
1778
01:46:58,513 --> 01:47:01,749
Every day I would be out in
the woods, it was changing me.
1779
01:47:02,684 --> 01:47:06,621
I was less aggressive with
my discipline, with my words.
1780
01:47:06,654 --> 01:47:09,457
It softened me up
1781
01:47:09,491 --> 01:47:13,795
- We're closer as a couple
and closer with kids.
1782
01:47:13,828 --> 01:47:18,032
He's a better husband,
and a way better dad.
1783
01:47:19,266 --> 01:47:22,670
- Well, my life now
is a lot different
1784
01:47:22,704 --> 01:47:25,139
than what it used
to be for sure.
1785
01:47:25,172 --> 01:47:28,309
And I'm so thankful, I
couldn't have scripted
1786
01:47:29,677 --> 01:47:31,546
my life any better
than what it is.
1787
01:47:32,947 --> 01:47:36,918
And it's all thanks to
long distance backpack.
1788
01:47:36,951 --> 01:47:41,523
And of course to God. A
lot of answered prayers.
1789
01:47:41,556 --> 01:47:46,360
Our time together is very
well spent and is cherished
1790
01:47:46,393 --> 01:47:50,364
'cause we know how
life used to be.
1791
01:48:16,758 --> 01:48:19,360
- The finish!!
- Congratulations!
1792
01:48:21,763 --> 01:48:22,429
- Good job Benny!
1793
01:48:28,402 --> 01:48:29,170
- You beast!
1794
01:48:29,203 --> 01:48:30,905
- Good job Benny!
1795
01:49:08,109 --> 01:49:08,910
- Careful.
1796
01:49:22,724 --> 01:49:24,592
- Best pass so far.
1797
01:49:24,626 --> 01:49:27,061
No doubt definitely the
sketchiest pass, my gosh.
1798
01:49:32,066 --> 01:49:33,434
- Amazing, geeze.
1799
01:49:34,836 --> 01:49:37,805
- You can definitely
knit a hat out of that.
1800
01:49:37,839 --> 01:49:39,874
Yeah, I love wool hats.
1801
01:50:29,323 --> 01:50:32,827
- I was just in the worst
hailstorm in my life basically
1802
01:50:32,860 --> 01:50:35,462
it started off pretty tame
and then it just got crazier
1803
01:50:35,496 --> 01:50:38,099
and crazier and
heavier and heavier.
1804
01:50:38,132 --> 01:50:41,035
- It only lasted for maybe
three or four minutes.
1805
01:50:41,068 --> 01:50:44,271
And then we were able to really
just jump out of our tents
1806
01:50:44,305 --> 01:50:48,142
and hang out together and just
enjoy each other's company.
1807
01:50:48,175 --> 01:50:50,511
As we experienced our last night
1808
01:50:50,544 --> 01:50:52,546
on the magical Uinta
Highline Trail.
1809
01:50:59,520 --> 01:51:01,689
- The final day.
1810
01:51:01,723 --> 01:51:04,325
Me and Will are some of
the first to wake up.
1811
01:51:04,358 --> 01:51:06,694
We're sitting there taking
pictures of the sunrise
1812
01:51:06,728 --> 01:51:09,897
reflecting off of the
lake, and all of a sudden,
1813
01:51:09,931 --> 01:51:12,566
I thought Will was gunna
choke on his coffee
1814
01:51:12,599 --> 01:51:17,338
because he's like, "moose!
there's two moose!"
1815
01:51:17,371 --> 01:51:21,242
- We're seeing two moose right
now, right in front of us.
1816
01:51:22,710 --> 01:51:24,278
It looks like a male and female.
1817
01:51:30,852 --> 01:51:33,554
It was really a special
moment for me on this trip.
1818
01:51:33,587 --> 01:51:37,158
And I'm like pumping my
arms and I was like yeah.
1819
01:51:37,191 --> 01:51:39,026
- What a great ending.
1820
01:51:39,060 --> 01:51:41,562
Really, I don't think we could
have scripted it any better.
1821
01:51:41,595 --> 01:51:44,932
To have these incredible
majestic animals just walk out.
1822
01:51:44,966 --> 01:51:47,935
And it was a great
experience really,
1823
01:51:47,969 --> 01:51:49,937
and something I'll never forget.
1824
01:52:00,147 --> 01:52:02,784
- The thing I missed the most
every time I'm on the trail
1825
01:52:02,817 --> 01:52:05,352
is my wife and my daughter,
I know that sounds cliche,
1826
01:52:05,386 --> 01:52:07,421
but it's totally the truth.
1827
01:52:07,454 --> 01:52:10,557
- What I miss on this
hike is just communicating
1828
01:52:10,591 --> 01:52:13,094
with people that I
talk to every day.
1829
01:52:13,127 --> 01:52:16,097
We've gone so many days
without any phone service.
1830
01:52:16,130 --> 01:52:18,232
You know how it
is it's traumatic.
1831
01:52:18,265 --> 01:52:19,967
- The thing I miss the
most is my girlfriend,
1832
01:52:20,001 --> 01:52:24,471
Joelle and just my life in
Gainesville and the farm.
1833
01:52:24,505 --> 01:52:28,976
- I miss my wife, my
beautiful bride, miss my kids,
1834
01:52:29,010 --> 01:52:32,613
the last couple days just before
you start going back home,
1835
01:52:32,646 --> 01:52:35,582
you start anticipating
what that moment
1836
01:52:35,616 --> 01:52:38,152
is gonna be like
whenever you reunite.
1837
01:52:45,759 --> 01:52:47,628
- The thing that really
means the most to me in life
1838
01:52:47,661 --> 01:52:50,597
are my relationships,
because you can't buy them.
1839
01:52:50,631 --> 01:52:52,133
You can't fake them.
1840
01:52:52,166 --> 01:52:55,002
You have to earn them
through shared experiences.
1841
01:52:56,003 --> 01:52:58,005
- I can be in the country,
I can be in the woods,
1842
01:52:58,039 --> 01:53:02,643
I can be in the city, and enjoy
myself no matter where I am.
1843
01:53:02,676 --> 01:53:04,678
I guess what's most
important is who I'm with.
1844
01:53:07,815 --> 01:53:09,183
- Yey!
1845
01:53:09,216 --> 01:53:10,818
- Yeah! yeah!
1846
01:53:11,819 --> 01:53:14,421
- Another one done baby!
1847
01:53:14,455 --> 01:53:15,356
- 104 miles.
1848
01:53:21,295 --> 01:53:22,696
- It was incredible.
1849
01:53:22,729 --> 01:53:25,799
I couldn't imagine
finishing up my summer hike,
1850
01:53:25,833 --> 01:53:28,269
any other way at
any other place,
1851
01:53:28,302 --> 01:53:30,071
than on the Uinta Highline.
1852
01:53:32,206 --> 01:53:34,041
- And it's just one of those
things you kind of have
1853
01:53:34,075 --> 01:53:36,610
to just chase after your
passions and you don't know
1854
01:53:36,643 --> 01:53:38,512
what tomorrow is gonna
hold and that's the whole
1855
01:53:38,545 --> 01:53:41,148
excitement about long distance
hiking, you don't know
1856
01:53:41,182 --> 01:53:43,284
who you'll meet the
next day, you don't know
1857
01:53:43,317 --> 01:53:45,319
where you'll sleep the next day.
1858
01:53:45,352 --> 01:53:46,954
- Everybody spends
their time indoors.
1859
01:53:46,988 --> 01:53:50,124
You know, you go from in
your house, to in a car,
1860
01:53:50,157 --> 01:53:52,860
to in an office, back to in
your car, back in your house.
1861
01:53:52,894 --> 01:53:54,628
So I think you know,
getting outside
1862
01:53:54,661 --> 01:53:56,663
is important for everybody.
1863
01:53:59,000 --> 01:54:00,667
- My children are watching.
1864
01:54:02,336 --> 01:54:06,707
We don't only teach our
children right from wrong,
1865
01:54:06,740 --> 01:54:08,442
but we also teach
them how to live.
1866
01:54:09,776 --> 01:54:12,846
Do we want them to be ordinary?
1867
01:54:12,880 --> 01:54:15,049
Or do we want our children
to be extraordinary?
1868
01:54:16,550 --> 01:54:17,751
We lead by example?
1869
01:54:28,295 --> 01:54:33,300
- I'm so grateful for my life
and I love the experiences
1870
01:54:34,568 --> 01:54:36,703
and the adventures that I've
been on in the last few years.
1871
01:54:36,737 --> 01:54:38,973
I look forward to
what's to come.
1872
01:54:41,308 --> 01:54:45,579
- It's our path, and this
is where I'm supposed to be,
1873
01:54:46,280 --> 01:54:48,549
right now, at this very moment.
1874
01:54:49,650 --> 01:54:53,120
And what we do next, matters.
1875
01:55:18,412 --> 01:55:21,882
- All right, day
night, oops, day night.
1876
01:55:21,915 --> 01:55:23,284
Okay, it's day nine.
1877
01:55:25,186 --> 01:55:26,787
- Take 12 Matt.
1878
01:55:26,820 --> 01:55:27,721
Day nine.
1879
01:55:27,754 --> 01:55:28,789
- He's really struggling with it
1880
01:55:35,829 --> 01:55:37,198
- My favorite animal.
1881
01:55:39,200 --> 01:55:41,068
I don't know if I have
a favorite animal,
1882
01:55:41,102 --> 01:55:43,937
maybe the honey badger,
'cause they're pretty badass
1883
01:55:46,373 --> 01:55:48,075
- Hi! Make a happy face.
1884
01:55:48,109 --> 01:55:50,377
- Make a silly face Lu
1885
01:55:51,178 --> 01:55:51,979
- That's awesome.
1886
01:56:02,689 --> 01:56:03,790
- That was wonderful.
1887
01:56:03,824 --> 01:56:05,026
- Please don't put
that in the video.
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