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And in all of my
years of public life,
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I have never
obstructed justice.
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And I think, too,
that I can say,
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That in my years
of public life,
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That I welcome
this kind of examination
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Because people
have got to know
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Whether or not their
president is a crook.
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Well, I'm not a crook.
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To share with you what
the United States knows
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About iraq's weapons
of mass destruction,
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Every statement
I make today
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Is backed up by sources,
solid sources.
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These are not assertions.
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What we're giving
you are facts
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And conclusions based
on solid intelligence.
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Renewed hostile actions
against United States ships
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On the high seas
in the gulf of tonkin
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Have today required me
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To order the military forces
of the United States
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To take action in reply.
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So, what I wanted to see
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Is if you could give me a yes
or no answer to the question:
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Does the nsa collect
any type of data at all
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On millions or hundreds
of millions of americans?
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No, sir.
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It does not?
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Not wittingly.
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You have to get rid
of this ignorant
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And meddlesome majority.
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Control them, make sure
they do the right things
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All for their
own good, incidentally.
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If they're allowed
to participate,
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They'll make all kind
of mistakes, errors,
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But we,
the responsible men,
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We know how to do
the right thing
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Like get into
the vietnam war
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And invade iraq and
deregulate the banks
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So that everything crashes.
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We--we get
everything straight.
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My fellow citizens,
at this hour,
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American and
coalition forces
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Are in the early stages
of military operations
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To disarm iraq,
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To free its people,
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And to defend the world
from grave danger.
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♪
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I believe,
very deeply,
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In freedom
of the press
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And the role of press
in a free society,
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And I have ever
since I was a kid.
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You can't fulfill your
function unless you're free.
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One of the great reporters of
the 20th century, I.F. Stone,
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Told journalism students
never to forget
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That all governments lie.
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He could speak
with authority,
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Having spent seven decades
exposing deception
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And official lies
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By digging deep into
government documents
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And transcripts.
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I tried to prove
what I was saying
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From the horse's
mouth, as it were.
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Using the government's
own documents,
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Government reports
and transcripts
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And press conferences,
speeches,
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And analyzing them the way--
the way a historian would.
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He gained his
greatest fame and impact
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Publishing a newsletter called
"I.F. Stone's weekly."
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Everybody in government
and journalism knew izzy stone
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And read his stuff.
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I.F. Stone's weekly
is about this size.
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Well, I.F. Stone's weekly
was a classic example
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Of an independent
journalistic organization
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That was able
to report the truth
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And that's the way
alternative media,
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Which I really think,
is real journalism
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Has always worked
as a vehicle
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That has exposed
the collusion,
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Hypocrisy and lies of
the commercial media.
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Do you presume to
criticize the great oz,
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You ungrateful creatures?
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I mean, stone was kind
of like toto, you know.
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It was like his job was
to pull back the curtain.
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The great oz has spoken.
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Oh!
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Pay no attention to that
man behind the curtain!
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And to see what
was behind that curtain
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And what was behind
that curtain, yes,
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It was the
all-powerful oz.
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It was also just
a frightened little man.
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Nothing and nothing that any
of us need to be frightened of,
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And why are--why are
we frightened of that?
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That's the embodiment of what
he and his weekly stood for
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And it certainly was
a huge inspiration to me.
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I want surveillance
of certain mosques, okay?
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I watched in
jersey city, new jersey,
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Where thousands and thousands
of people were cheering
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As that building
was coming down.
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Donald j. Trump is
calling for a total
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And complete shutdown of muslims
entering the United States
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Until our country's
representatives can figure out
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What the hell is going on.
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You have no choice.
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Who would have thought that
this circus would come to town,
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But you know, it may
not be good for america,
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But it's damn good for cbs,
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That's all I got to say.
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The money's rolling in
and this is fun.
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I've never seen
anything like this,
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And you know, this is gonna
be a very good year for us.
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It's a terrible
thing to say,
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But bring it on,
donald, go ahead.
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Keep going.
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It makes you
ask, seriously,
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Whether those executives
who run media conglomerates
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Have any more
ethics or morals
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Than those who run
the oil and gas industry,
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The pharmaceutical companies,
the tobacco industry.
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It's an open
question to me.
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♪
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♪ drivin' my limousine
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♪ now it's all designed
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♪ to blow our minds
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♪ but our minds
won't really be blown ♪
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♪ like the blow
that'll get ya ♪
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♪ when you get your picture
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♪ on the cover of
the rolling stone ♪
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♪ rolling stone
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♪ wanna see our
pictures on the cover ♪
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♪ wanna buy five
copies for our mothers ♪
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♪ wanna see my
smiling face ♪
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♪ on the cover
of the rolling stone ♪
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We're in new hampshire,
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Which is like, the capital
of depressed america, where,
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You know, the manufacturing
economy has disappeared,
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And we really don't examine
those issues at all.
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We don't actually
talk to people at all,
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'cause you don't have time.
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There's only time
to watch the speech,
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To ask the people
in the audience
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What they think
of the speech
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And then you go on
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And you move on
to the next spot.
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The entire thing
could be shot
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In a sound stage
in la with--
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Just by rotating in
a different audience each time.
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♪
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Well, donald trump,
of course,
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Remains the strong
frontrunner up here
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To win the republican primary
in new hampshire tomorrow.
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It snows in
new hampshire,
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People know how
to put--get cars.
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They got--they used
to put chains on,
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Now they got good tires.
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Why should they trudge through
the snow for donald trump?
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Well, you know,
my whole concept
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And my whole theme,
frankly, behind it
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Is make america great again.
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Make america great again!
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We're going to make
america great again!
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We're going to make
america great again.
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Build a wall!
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Build a wall!
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I'm very focused
on the idea
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That these voters have
completely shifted their tune
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About what
they're upset about.
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But you know, there's
a lot of subtleties
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That people in this kind of
audience don't pick up on,
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And he's smart
enough to know
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That he can just steamroll right
past a lot of those problems
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And they're not going
to be noticed by anybody.
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Thank you very much, everybody.
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Wow, this is beautiful.
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We had a lot of fun.
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We gave very
high grades on that.
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Even people that hate me
gave me good marks,
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Isn't that amazing?
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For the next 20 minutes,
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He's talking about how
he's gonna slap tariffs
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On every country that
imports to the United States
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And yeah, how he's,
you know, ford is gonna--
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Want to relocate
a factory and he's--
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He, donald trump,
the president,
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Is not going
to allow that.
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The idea of giving
the government
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That much power over--
over corporate business
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Doesn't seem to trouble
this audience at all,
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Which is odd when you
think about it after--
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After all those
years of propaganda.
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For years and
years and years,
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What was the party line that
we got was that, you know,
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Free enterprise cures all.
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The market is
self-correcting.
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We're the best
in the world.
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We have confidence
we're gonna do that.
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Well, that's not what
he's saying anymore.
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People don't have
confidence in that anymore.
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Now they need--
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Now they need the
strong man to step in
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And make sure
that we all get paid.
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I'll bring back our jobs
from china, from mexico,
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From japan, from
so many places.
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I'll bring back our jobs
and I'll bring back our money.
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Matt taibbi's acerbic
writing on donald trump
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Is really reminiscent
of I.F. Stone's writing
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On the demagogue
senator joe mccarthy,
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And presidents like
ike eisenhower, john f. Kennedy,
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Lyndon johnson,
richard nixon.
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♪
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Matt is sort of a cross
between I.F. Stone
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And hunter s. Thompson,
the original gonzo journalist,
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Who so raucously,
viscerally,
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Would skewer the
powers that were
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In the early '70s.
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And as izzy was drowned out
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When mainstream media gave
joe mccarthy his megaphone,
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Taibbi's independent voice
can't really compete
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When mainstream
tv news, for months,
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Provided a fairly
uncritical platform
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And a massive
megaphone to trump.
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When do we beat
mexico at the border?
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They're laughing at us
at our stupidity.
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They're bringing drugs.
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They're bringing crime.
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They're rapists and some,
I assume, are good people.
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♪
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We spent about a year
doing this story,
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And we found evidence
that bodies, human bodies,
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Were buried in,
I would say, a criminal way.
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♪
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If we had 200 bodies that
were buried in a criminal way
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In the United States,
if they were anglo,
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I think that we'd
be hearing about it.
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Because they're mexican,
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Or because they're
from south of the border,
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For the most part,
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There wasn't any
sort of an uproar.
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The national media
didn't pay attention.
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We found mass graves
in the United States.
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We found people dumped
into a mass grave,
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And they were
not catalogued.
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They were
not documented,
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They were not
properly treated.
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Some individuals were
buried in trash bags.
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The mainstream media,
258
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If we're talking about
national media coverage
259
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Of the migrant deaths
in falfurrias, texas,
260
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To my knowledge has
been non-existent.
261
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Media executives,
for the most part,
262
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People who make decisions
on what's on television,
263
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Are really some of the
most ill-informed people
264
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When it comes
to the news itself.
265
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The choices that are made
266
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Are entertainment based.
267
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Who's pretty?
268
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Who speaks english?
269
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These are things
that I'm asked
270
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When I'm pitching a story.
271
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They're not going to
watch a bunch of bodies
272
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Being exhumed
from a gravesite
273
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And seeing law enforcement
held accountable.
274
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That's not something
that's savory,
275
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And I'm talking about all
of the mainstream media
276
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On major networks.
277
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Abc, nbc, cbs, pbs.
278
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We're being dumbed down,
we're being watered down,
279
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We're being misinformed,
we're being misled,
280
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And we're being told
information which is false.
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282
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I remember pitching
a story to 60 minutes,
283
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Which I had done one
for about a year prior,
284
00:14:14,056 --> 00:14:16,556
And it was about the border
and it was about migrants.
285
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Stories that rarely get
to see the light of day,
286
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And they told me,
287
00:14:20,027 --> 00:14:21,857
"john, we already did
a border story for you."
288
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It was a year ago, so there
must only be one border story.
289
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It's not what their
audience wants to see,
290
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So they're
not interested.
291
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Even if it's newsworthy,
292
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They're going to consider
the ratings first.
293
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♪
294
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The heat index, a combination
of temperature and humidity,
295
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Is among the highest
in the nation.
296
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Pictures can't capture,
297
00:14:54,289 --> 00:14:56,589
And I can't
adequately describe,
298
00:14:56,591 --> 00:14:59,331
How hot and how
humid it feels.
299
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♪
300
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It's like walking
through soup.
301
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♪
302
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Everywhere there are
signs of migrants.
303
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♪
304
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It's certainly
a winter coat.
305
00:15:17,473 --> 00:15:18,713
♪
306
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Some young woman,
307
00:15:20,408 --> 00:15:23,838
Probably brought her best
clothes and best jewelry
308
00:15:23,844 --> 00:15:25,584
'cause she was here
to get a job.
309
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♪
310
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I think the last
time I checked
311
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There are over 10,000 people
missing from records in mexico,
312
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Just in mexico,
not central america,
313
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Who have crossed
that border.
314
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That means 10,000 families
315
00:15:45,262 --> 00:15:46,632
Who are still looking
for their loved ones
316
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Who may have crossed
that border illegally
317
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And were never
heard from again.
318
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Where are they?
319
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There are no
records of them.
320
00:15:52,467 --> 00:15:54,227
They're probably
in some cemetery plot
321
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Somewhere in
texas or arizona.
322
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This is going on
all over the border.
323
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♪
324
00:16:06,478 --> 00:16:09,708
My colleagues, we have an
obligation to our citizens.
325
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We have an obligation
to this body
326
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To see that our resolutions
are complied with.
327
00:16:16,085 --> 00:16:18,285
We wrote 1441
328
00:16:18,287 --> 00:16:21,547
To give iraq
one last chance.
329
00:16:22,422 --> 00:16:24,092
Iraq is not, so far,
330
00:16:24,091 --> 00:16:28,131
Taking that
one last chance.
331
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We must not shrink from
whatever is ahead of us
332
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And our responsibility to
the citizens of the countries
333
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That are represented
by this body.
334
00:16:39,170 --> 00:16:41,070
Thank you, mr. President.
335
00:16:41,071 --> 00:16:44,841
Did colin powell close
the deal today in your mind?
336
00:16:44,841 --> 00:16:49,581
I think for anybody who
analyzes the situation,
337
00:16:49,578 --> 00:16:51,308
He has closed the deal.
338
00:16:51,313 --> 00:16:55,923
This irrefutable, undeniable,
incontrovertible evidence today.
339
00:16:55,917 --> 00:16:58,617
Colin powell
brilliantly delivered
340
00:16:58,619 --> 00:16:59,849
That smoking gun today.
341
00:16:59,853 --> 00:17:01,223
It was so compelling,
342
00:17:01,221 --> 00:17:02,951
I don't see how
anybody at this point
343
00:17:02,956 --> 00:17:04,556
Can not support
this effort.
344
00:17:04,557 --> 00:17:06,957
It was devastating,
I mean, and overwhelming.
345
00:17:06,959 --> 00:17:09,459
Overwhelming abundance
of the evidence.
346
00:17:09,462 --> 00:17:15,572
♪
347
00:17:15,567 --> 00:17:18,567
This was the mainstream
media's darkest hour.
348
00:17:18,570 --> 00:17:19,740
Go, go!
349
00:17:20,903 --> 00:17:22,103
Fight, fight!
350
00:17:22,105 --> 00:17:23,595
They were more
than cheerleaders,
351
00:17:23,606 --> 00:17:25,136
They were complicit.
352
00:17:25,140 --> 00:17:28,310
He just flooded the
terrain with--with data.
353
00:17:28,309 --> 00:17:30,939
The powell speech has--
has moved the ball.
354
00:17:30,944 --> 00:17:33,144
I think the case is closed.
355
00:17:33,146 --> 00:17:35,206
You do not, under
international law,
356
00:17:35,214 --> 00:17:37,514
Wage a destructive sociocide.
357
00:17:37,516 --> 00:17:39,546
They basically blew
apart the country
358
00:17:39,551 --> 00:17:41,721
'cause they wanted
to get saddam hussein.
359
00:17:41,719 --> 00:17:45,749
Well, this is like one of the
greatest international crimes
360
00:17:45,755 --> 00:17:47,315
Since world war ii.
361
00:17:47,323 --> 00:17:50,293
This is abc
world news tonight.
362
00:17:50,292 --> 00:17:52,762
This is nbc
nightly news.
363
00:17:52,761 --> 00:17:54,191
♪
364
00:17:54,195 --> 00:17:56,855
This is the
cbs evening news.
365
00:17:56,864 --> 00:18:00,934
And it was committed with
the complete complicity
366
00:18:00,934 --> 00:18:04,344
Of the mainstream media
that kept critical voices,
367
00:18:04,337 --> 00:18:06,337
Such as ours,
off the air.
368
00:18:06,339 --> 00:18:10,169
Oh, I think it's important
to have experts explain the war
369
00:18:10,176 --> 00:18:12,606
And to describe
the military hardware,
370
00:18:12,611 --> 00:18:13,681
Describe the tactics.
371
00:18:13,678 --> 00:18:15,778
Talk about the strategy
behind the conflict.
372
00:18:15,780 --> 00:18:18,050
I went to the pentagon
myself several times
373
00:18:18,048 --> 00:18:19,278
Before the war started
374
00:18:19,282 --> 00:18:20,482
And met with
important people there
375
00:18:20,483 --> 00:18:22,323
And said,
for instance, at cnn,
376
00:18:22,318 --> 00:18:25,048
"here are the generals
we're thinking of retaining
377
00:18:25,054 --> 00:18:27,724
To advise us on the air
and off about the war,"
378
00:18:27,723 --> 00:18:29,793
And we got a big
thumbs up on all of them.
379
00:18:29,791 --> 00:18:30,821
That was important.
380
00:18:31,991 --> 00:18:33,691
Journalists,
too many of them,
381
00:18:33,693 --> 00:18:35,393
And some quite explicitly,
382
00:18:35,394 --> 00:18:38,934
Have said that
they see their mission
383
00:18:38,930 --> 00:18:41,000
As helping the war effort.
384
00:18:40,998 --> 00:18:44,668
At msnbc, I was
on the air daily
385
00:18:44,668 --> 00:18:47,268
As a political
and media analyst.
386
00:18:47,270 --> 00:18:49,240
And if you define
your mission that way,
387
00:18:49,238 --> 00:18:50,998
You'll end up
suppressing news
388
00:18:51,006 --> 00:18:52,566
That might be
important, accurate,
389
00:18:52,574 --> 00:18:54,774
But maybe isn't helpful
to the war effort.
390
00:18:54,776 --> 00:18:58,236
But I lost my time
because they had to make room
391
00:18:58,246 --> 00:19:01,106
As we got closer to
the invasion of iraq
392
00:19:01,115 --> 00:19:04,775
For this endless parade
of retired generals,
393
00:19:04,785 --> 00:19:08,885
Majors, admirals,
former cia chiefs,
394
00:19:08,888 --> 00:19:13,358
And we know now those people
had no independence,
395
00:19:13,358 --> 00:19:16,458
They were being fed talking
points by the pentagon,
396
00:19:16,461 --> 00:19:19,831
And most of what they said, as
our country was driven to war,
397
00:19:19,831 --> 00:19:21,001
Was false.
398
00:19:20,998 --> 00:19:28,238
♪
399
00:19:28,238 --> 00:19:29,868
Wealthy insurance.
400
00:19:31,373 --> 00:19:33,743
♪
401
00:19:33,742 --> 00:19:36,712
From pacifica,
this is democracy now!
402
00:19:36,711 --> 00:19:38,311
♪
403
00:19:38,312 --> 00:19:40,512
Democracy now!,
it's slightly larger, I think,
404
00:19:40,514 --> 00:19:43,214
Than the space
I.F. Stone operated out of,
405
00:19:43,216 --> 00:19:45,546
But very much modeled
on this idea
406
00:19:45,551 --> 00:19:48,651
Of the media being
a sanctuary of dissent.
407
00:19:48,654 --> 00:19:51,594
You know, necessity is
the mother of invention.
408
00:19:51,590 --> 00:19:53,090
We couldn't afford
the satellites
409
00:19:53,091 --> 00:19:54,591
That the networks had.
410
00:19:54,592 --> 00:19:57,092
We worked with the internet
from the beginning
411
00:19:57,094 --> 00:19:58,394
Out of necessity.
412
00:19:58,395 --> 00:20:03,195
Now, we're broadcasting
on over 1300 radio
413
00:20:03,199 --> 00:20:04,769
And television stations.
414
00:20:04,767 --> 00:20:07,667
Public access tv,
community radio,
415
00:20:07,669 --> 00:20:10,699
Public radio, pbs,
public television,
416
00:20:10,705 --> 00:20:13,805
But we're not there to
win a popularity contest.
417
00:20:13,808 --> 00:20:16,678
We're there to bring out
the voices of people
418
00:20:16,677 --> 00:20:17,907
All over the world.
419
00:20:17,911 --> 00:20:28,021
♪
420
00:20:28,021 --> 00:20:36,661
♪
421
00:20:36,662 --> 00:20:40,802
From pacifica radio,
this is democracy now!
422
00:20:40,799 --> 00:20:45,369
Pope john paul ii's senior
advisor has arrived in baghdad
423
00:20:45,370 --> 00:20:47,440
For meetings with
senior iraqi leaders.
424
00:20:47,438 --> 00:20:49,398
Last night,
he presided over a mass
425
00:20:49,406 --> 00:20:51,836
At st. Joseph's church
in central baghdad.
426
00:20:51,841 --> 00:20:55,581
Democracy now! Correspondent
jeremy scahill was there.
427
00:20:59,113 --> 00:21:00,583
Regardless
of their faith,
428
00:21:00,581 --> 00:21:03,181
Iraqis are praying
for a miracle.
429
00:21:03,183 --> 00:21:06,153
Almost no one believes
that war can be averted.
430
00:21:06,152 --> 00:21:09,392
John paul ii has added his
voice to the growing chorus
431
00:21:09,388 --> 00:21:10,988
Against a war on iraq,
432
00:21:10,989 --> 00:21:14,289
But it's unlikely that
george w. Bush will listen.
433
00:21:14,292 --> 00:21:15,962
His own methodist church
has come out
434
00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:17,630
Against an attack on iraq,
435
00:21:17,628 --> 00:21:20,228
And bush won't even
meet with its leaders.
436
00:21:20,230 --> 00:21:24,000
For democracy now!, this is
jeremy scahill in baghdad.
437
00:21:24,766 --> 00:21:34,966
♪
438
00:21:34,976 --> 00:21:38,436
The problem is most of the
big media are businesses.
439
00:21:38,446 --> 00:21:41,306
They respond to
their investors,
440
00:21:41,315 --> 00:21:43,075
The stock market
and their advertisers,
441
00:21:43,083 --> 00:21:46,753
And independent journalists
bring their conscience to work
442
00:21:46,753 --> 00:21:49,993
And they call the situation
as it really is factually,
443
00:21:49,989 --> 00:21:51,619
So they're a rare breed.
444
00:21:51,623 --> 00:21:54,623
They're not indentured
to commercial motivation.
445
00:21:54,626 --> 00:21:58,186
Well, the problem is
is the illusion of free press.
446
00:21:58,196 --> 00:22:01,426
You know, we don't have state
media in the United States,
447
00:22:01,432 --> 00:22:04,702
But if we had it,
how would it be any different?
448
00:22:05,701 --> 00:22:07,501
It's easy to
criticize fox.
449
00:22:07,503 --> 00:22:10,503
It's fox, it's cnn,
it's the new york times.
450
00:22:10,506 --> 00:22:12,636
That's why we need
independent journalism.
451
00:22:12,641 --> 00:22:14,871
You know, that's
why we need a media
452
00:22:14,876 --> 00:22:16,936
That challenges
the corporate power.
453
00:22:16,944 --> 00:22:18,814
When we cover war,
we can't be brought to you
454
00:22:18,812 --> 00:22:20,712
By the weapons
manufacturers.
455
00:22:20,713 --> 00:22:22,753
When we cover climate change,
we can't be brought to you
456
00:22:22,748 --> 00:22:24,748
By the oil, gas,
coal, nuclear companies.
457
00:22:24,750 --> 00:22:26,580
When we cover healthcare,
we can't be brought to you
458
00:22:26,585 --> 00:22:28,445
By the insurance and
the drug companies.
459
00:22:28,453 --> 00:22:30,853
We have to have a media
460
00:22:30,855 --> 00:22:33,955
That is a counterbalance
to those in power.
461
00:22:33,958 --> 00:22:36,888
It's the only
equalizing force.
462
00:22:41,497 --> 00:22:43,227
I think the media
is really nihilistic.
463
00:22:43,233 --> 00:22:44,933
It's--it's about
making money.
464
00:22:46,367 --> 00:22:48,527
What makes money
in this country happens to be
465
00:22:48,536 --> 00:22:51,266
Avoiding difficult truths
about our society.
466
00:22:51,272 --> 00:22:54,712
You know, a story about what
it's like to be on welfare,
467
00:22:54,708 --> 00:22:56,168
That's not
a story, right?
468
00:22:56,176 --> 00:22:59,106
But you know, kim kardashian
falls into a puddle
469
00:22:59,112 --> 00:23:00,642
In central park,
that's a story.
470
00:23:00,646 --> 00:23:03,206
Well, kim and kanye,
also known as kimye,
471
00:23:03,215 --> 00:23:07,315
Are expected to get married
here in florence this weekend
472
00:23:07,318 --> 00:23:08,848
In a medici fortress
473
00:23:08,852 --> 00:23:12,622
That cost $400,000
to rent out.
474
00:23:12,622 --> 00:23:15,662
Erin mclaughlin,
cnn, florence, Italy.
475
00:23:16,224 --> 00:23:26,334
♪
476
00:23:26,335 --> 00:23:31,835
♪
477
00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:33,570
If you had to come
up with a slogan
478
00:23:33,575 --> 00:23:35,205
For what our new
media venture is,
479
00:23:35,209 --> 00:23:37,779
The one that jeremy scahill
and laura poitras and I are--
480
00:23:37,778 --> 00:23:40,808
Are building under the
aegis of first look media,
481
00:23:40,814 --> 00:23:43,714
You probably could
use as a slogan,
482
00:23:43,716 --> 00:23:45,216
"the spirit of I.F. Stone,
483
00:23:45,217 --> 00:23:46,977
But funded with
$250 million."
484
00:23:46,985 --> 00:23:49,385
Glenn greenwald has been
a lightning rod for controversy
485
00:23:49,387 --> 00:23:52,717
Since he obtained those secret
nsa documents from ed snowden
486
00:23:52,723 --> 00:23:54,393
And published some
of them in the guardian.
487
00:23:54,391 --> 00:23:55,961
Now he's launching
a media company
488
00:23:55,959 --> 00:24:00,189
Backed by wealthy ebay founder,
pierre omidyar.
489
00:24:00,196 --> 00:24:03,256
The main thing is you got
to encapsulate all of this
490
00:24:03,265 --> 00:24:06,595
In a way that it
can't be decrypted
491
00:24:06,601 --> 00:24:09,701
And read when it's in
transit across the network,
492
00:24:09,704 --> 00:24:12,204
Or on either
of the end points.
493
00:24:12,206 --> 00:24:13,866
Okay, I mean,
just so you know,
494
00:24:13,874 --> 00:24:16,374
These documents are basically
all gonna be uplinked within,
495
00:24:16,376 --> 00:24:17,876
Like, 48 hours, 72 hours.
496
00:24:17,877 --> 00:24:19,707
This is--this is
simply, you know,
497
00:24:19,712 --> 00:24:21,752
You want to get in the process
of doing this for everything
498
00:24:21,747 --> 00:24:23,507
Because it seems hard,
but it's not hard.
499
00:24:23,515 --> 00:24:24,705
This is super easy.
500
00:24:29,253 --> 00:24:31,053
Thank you so much
to the academy.
501
00:24:31,054 --> 00:24:34,564
The disclosures that
edward snowden reveals
502
00:24:34,557 --> 00:24:37,617
Don't only expose
a threat to our privacy,
503
00:24:37,626 --> 00:24:39,586
But to our democracy itself,
504
00:24:39,594 --> 00:24:41,664
And I share this
with glenn greenwald
505
00:24:41,662 --> 00:24:44,532
And other journalists
who are exposing truth.
506
00:24:44,531 --> 00:24:45,761
Thank you.
507
00:24:46,766 --> 00:24:53,536
♪
508
00:24:53,538 --> 00:24:55,168
Was mr. Daoud
killed immediately
509
00:24:55,172 --> 00:24:57,642
Or did he live for
a while after he was shot?
510
00:25:11,152 --> 00:25:15,222
You saw the us forces take
the bullets out of the body?
511
00:25:15,223 --> 00:25:18,093
♪
512
00:25:18,092 --> 00:25:21,762
When glenn greenwald and
jeremy scahill teamed up
513
00:25:21,761 --> 00:25:24,161
Together at the intercept,
514
00:25:24,163 --> 00:25:25,463
It was like a--
515
00:25:25,464 --> 00:25:27,364
A dream for
adversarial journalists.
516
00:25:27,365 --> 00:25:28,995
♪
517
00:25:28,999 --> 00:25:32,969
And since 2014, they've
been able, with their team,
518
00:25:32,969 --> 00:25:36,469
To break story after story
of political corruption,
519
00:25:36,472 --> 00:25:39,112
Especially
scoop after scoop
520
00:25:39,107 --> 00:25:42,207
About the national security
surveillance state,
521
00:25:42,210 --> 00:25:45,410
Which mainstream journalists
often tend to avoid
522
00:25:45,413 --> 00:25:48,683
Out of a false notion
of patriotism.
523
00:25:48,682 --> 00:25:52,522
Good journalism today has
the state in its crosshairs,
524
00:25:52,518 --> 00:25:54,748
And you never want
to punch down.
525
00:25:54,753 --> 00:25:56,323
You always want
to punch up.
526
00:25:56,322 --> 00:25:58,062
That's what I think
we're trying to do
527
00:25:58,057 --> 00:25:59,317
At the intercept.
528
00:26:00,624 --> 00:26:02,124
And then once
you have that file,
529
00:26:02,126 --> 00:26:03,986
Just right click the file
in the finder.
530
00:26:03,994 --> 00:26:05,764
Were they--were they able
to decrypt it at all?
531
00:26:05,762 --> 00:26:06,862
I don't think so.
532
00:26:06,863 --> 00:26:08,133
Well, you look behind me
533
00:26:08,130 --> 00:26:10,060
And you see a news room
full of fantastic,
534
00:26:10,065 --> 00:26:13,025
Independent reporters who come
from all sorts of backgrounds,
535
00:26:13,034 --> 00:26:15,874
But this is still very much
a--a project in development.
536
00:26:15,870 --> 00:26:17,670
I would say our mission
statement is--
537
00:26:17,671 --> 00:26:19,771
Is to produce adversarial,
fearless journalism.
538
00:26:19,773 --> 00:26:22,643
This central idea that,
I think, everyone shares
539
00:26:22,642 --> 00:26:25,082
Is that the more
power someone wields,
540
00:26:25,077 --> 00:26:27,137
The more journalistic
accountability
541
00:26:27,145 --> 00:26:28,735
And scrutiny they need.
542
00:26:36,519 --> 00:26:39,089
I mean, it says explicitly
there that they're--
543
00:26:39,089 --> 00:26:41,919
That it's supporting drone
surveillance operations.
544
00:26:43,291 --> 00:26:46,131
Most of the bandwidth
is on galaxy 26,
545
00:26:46,128 --> 00:26:48,628
And not an nro
secret site.
546
00:26:48,630 --> 00:26:50,260
That must be
the satellite.
547
00:26:50,264 --> 00:26:54,134
Yeah, it can support up to
40 uav sorties simultaneously.
548
00:26:54,134 --> 00:26:57,204
And these are satellites
showing construction
549
00:26:57,203 --> 00:26:58,843
Of a facility in germany
550
00:26:58,837 --> 00:27:01,297
That the us uses as part
of its drone program.
551
00:27:01,306 --> 00:27:04,536
The german government
basically is trying to argue
552
00:27:04,542 --> 00:27:05,742
That it doesn't have any--
553
00:27:05,743 --> 00:27:06,913
Any role at all
554
00:27:06,910 --> 00:27:08,840
In the targeted
killing program,
555
00:27:08,845 --> 00:27:11,575
'cause that would be
illegal under german law.
556
00:27:11,581 --> 00:27:14,751
It's a story that
involves many countries
557
00:27:14,750 --> 00:27:18,080
Being involved with
the us drone program
558
00:27:18,086 --> 00:27:21,716
And their governments either
are not aware of it, or--
559
00:27:21,722 --> 00:27:23,422
Or they're lying,
560
00:27:23,423 --> 00:27:26,193
And that's part of what
we're trying to nail down.
561
00:27:26,192 --> 00:27:28,932
Part of my discussion that
was shown in citizenfour
562
00:27:28,928 --> 00:27:30,858
With snowden
had some reference
563
00:27:30,863 --> 00:27:32,063
To the use of ramstein
564
00:27:32,064 --> 00:27:33,904
As part of
a chain of command
565
00:27:33,899 --> 00:27:36,399
In which these drone
executions are carried out.
566
00:27:36,401 --> 00:27:38,801
♪
567
00:27:38,803 --> 00:27:40,043
You know that?
568
00:27:41,237 --> 00:27:44,807
But the drone papers
really solidified this--
569
00:27:44,808 --> 00:27:47,308
This role in a way
that is really important
570
00:27:47,310 --> 00:27:48,840
And it created,
actually, some debate
571
00:27:48,844 --> 00:27:50,414
And some scandal in germany.
572
00:27:50,412 --> 00:27:54,382
The german population was almost
entirely unaware of the role
573
00:27:54,382 --> 00:27:57,782
That ramstein is playing in
this program, and obviously,
574
00:27:57,785 --> 00:27:59,845
Germans overwhelmingly
oppose the death penalty
575
00:27:59,853 --> 00:28:02,593
And so it stands to reason
that if they had known about it,
576
00:28:02,589 --> 00:28:04,789
They never would
have allowed it.
577
00:28:04,791 --> 00:28:06,421
This is the most
sophisticated
578
00:28:06,425 --> 00:28:09,385
So-called clean way
of bumping people off.
579
00:28:09,394 --> 00:28:11,634
♪
580
00:28:11,629 --> 00:28:14,399
I became sort of obsessed
with this notion that a man
581
00:28:14,398 --> 00:28:17,228
Who is a constitutional lawyer
by training,
582
00:28:17,234 --> 00:28:21,674
Who won the nobel peace prize,
is presiding over a--
583
00:28:21,671 --> 00:28:24,711
An attempt to legitimize
584
00:28:24,707 --> 00:28:27,537
And some would say,
legalize assassination
585
00:28:27,543 --> 00:28:31,643
As a central component
of us policy.
586
00:28:31,646 --> 00:28:35,376
I'll make our government
open and transparent,
587
00:28:35,382 --> 00:28:36,882
So that anyone can ensure
588
00:28:36,883 --> 00:28:40,123
That our business is
the people's business.
589
00:28:40,119 --> 00:28:41,989
Just as louis brandeis
once said,
590
00:28:41,987 --> 00:28:44,447
"sunlight is the
greatest disinfectant."
591
00:28:44,456 --> 00:28:46,556
Who would have thought
that we'd get a president
592
00:28:46,558 --> 00:28:48,758
Who is a charismatic,
perhaps--
593
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:50,230
Probably one of the
smartest presidents,
594
00:28:50,228 --> 00:28:53,358
If not the smartest
president in us history,
595
00:28:53,364 --> 00:28:55,664
With a great background
in social justice causes
596
00:28:55,666 --> 00:28:59,566
Who would preside over more
prosecutions of whistle blowers
597
00:28:59,569 --> 00:29:03,239
As spies than all previous
administrations combined,
598
00:29:03,239 --> 00:29:06,169
Who would expand
the drone program
599
00:29:06,175 --> 00:29:09,535
And try to legitimize
the assassination program?
600
00:29:09,545 --> 00:29:10,775
When obama was elected,
601
00:29:10,779 --> 00:29:12,149
He pledged that
his administration
602
00:29:12,147 --> 00:29:14,277
Was going to be the most
transparent in history.
603
00:29:14,282 --> 00:29:15,652
No more secrecy.
604
00:29:15,650 --> 00:29:17,620
That's the commitment
I make to you as president.
605
00:29:23,521 --> 00:29:25,261
No more secrecy.
606
00:29:25,257 --> 00:29:27,817
You know, we'll
work with sources
607
00:29:27,826 --> 00:29:30,056
Or with documents
that we've obtained,
608
00:29:30,061 --> 00:29:32,561
And then you, you know,
you try to hunt down
609
00:29:32,563 --> 00:29:34,863
The publicly available
record on these things
610
00:29:34,865 --> 00:29:36,325
And I mean, an incredible
amount of stuff
611
00:29:36,333 --> 00:29:38,073
Is sort of hidden
in plain sight
612
00:29:38,068 --> 00:29:40,128
If you dig far enough.
613
00:29:40,136 --> 00:29:41,896
That's all of what
I.F. Stone was doing.
614
00:29:41,904 --> 00:29:44,204
I guess what's different
is that, you know,
615
00:29:44,206 --> 00:29:46,936
Part of what we do is
try to cultivate sources
616
00:29:46,942 --> 00:29:48,842
And talk to people who
are directly knowledgeable
617
00:29:48,843 --> 00:29:52,043
About various operations
in the military
618
00:29:52,046 --> 00:29:55,346
Or the cia or the nsa
and then, you know,
619
00:29:55,349 --> 00:29:58,749
Then you start going
down a rabbit hole.
620
00:29:59,917 --> 00:30:01,447
I mean, I've often
said that I thought
621
00:30:01,452 --> 00:30:04,192
That I.F. Stone
is the first blogger,
622
00:30:04,188 --> 00:30:08,888
Even though he existed
before bloggers existed,
623
00:30:08,891 --> 00:30:11,191
But in my view,
he really encapsulated
624
00:30:11,193 --> 00:30:13,263
What became the
new media ethos,
625
00:30:13,261 --> 00:30:18,061
Which is the idea of working
as independently as possible
626
00:30:18,065 --> 00:30:21,795
From all of the power
factions and centers
627
00:30:21,801 --> 00:30:23,571
On which you're reporting,
628
00:30:23,569 --> 00:30:27,169
And what we've built here, in
terms of our new media outlet,
629
00:30:27,172 --> 00:30:32,312
Is very much, I think, based
on the ethos that he pioneered.
630
00:30:32,310 --> 00:30:35,180
♪
631
00:30:35,179 --> 00:30:38,349
Ooh, do you feel the
breeze from the subway?
632
00:30:38,348 --> 00:30:39,978
Isn't it delicious?
633
00:30:39,982 --> 00:30:50,092
♪
634
00:30:50,092 --> 00:30:59,472
♪
635
00:30:59,467 --> 00:31:01,167
I got to meet I.F. Stone
636
00:31:01,168 --> 00:31:04,238
In the mid '80s
in washington, dc.
637
00:31:04,237 --> 00:31:07,297
I wanted to put out my
own weekly moore's weekly,
638
00:31:07,306 --> 00:31:10,836
And I just wanted to go
and talk to him about it.
639
00:31:10,842 --> 00:31:13,142
It was just
an amazing afternoon
640
00:31:13,144 --> 00:31:15,344
That I got
to have with him
641
00:31:15,346 --> 00:31:17,776
To really, kind of,
pick his brain
642
00:31:17,781 --> 00:31:20,011
And tell him, you know,
what I wanted to do
643
00:31:20,016 --> 00:31:21,676
And he gave me,
you know, good advice.
644
00:31:21,684 --> 00:31:24,894
Advice I kind of already knew,
because I'd read him, you know.
645
00:31:24,887 --> 00:31:26,417
His--his great motto
646
00:31:26,421 --> 00:31:28,351
Of all governments
are run by liars
647
00:31:28,356 --> 00:31:30,086
And nothing they say
should be believed,
648
00:31:30,091 --> 00:31:31,791
And he said--
he said to me,
649
00:31:31,792 --> 00:31:33,262
But I would
expand that now
650
00:31:33,260 --> 00:31:35,230
To governments,
corporations,
651
00:31:35,228 --> 00:31:37,288
You know, it's not just
the--the government.
652
00:31:37,296 --> 00:31:39,896
It's this--that--
anybody in power.
653
00:31:39,898 --> 00:31:41,428
You must start,
as a journalist,
654
00:31:41,432 --> 00:31:43,932
With the assumption that
they are lying to you.
655
00:31:43,934 --> 00:31:46,104
Now, some of them
may not be lying,
656
00:31:46,102 --> 00:31:47,802
But it's their duty
to prove to you,
657
00:31:47,803 --> 00:31:49,473
The journalist,
that they're not lying.
658
00:31:51,004 --> 00:31:53,814
Through high school,
I read I.F. Stone's weekly.
659
00:31:53,807 --> 00:31:55,337
One of the things
I learned was that
660
00:31:55,341 --> 00:31:58,541
Humor isn't just
about telling jokes
661
00:31:58,544 --> 00:32:00,414
Or just about funny ha-ha.
662
00:32:00,412 --> 00:32:05,212
Humor can be the most piercing
of political weapons.
663
00:32:05,216 --> 00:32:08,646
I'm--I'm stunned that more
people actually don't use humor
664
00:32:08,652 --> 00:32:10,722
Because it's so powerful,
665
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,850
And one of the great things
that you learn about humor
666
00:32:13,856 --> 00:32:16,486
And good ridicule
when in politics
667
00:32:16,491 --> 00:32:19,591
Is that it's very hard
to respond to it.
668
00:32:19,594 --> 00:32:21,234
The faa has
taken the action
669
00:32:21,228 --> 00:32:24,498
To close all of the airports
in the United States.
670
00:32:24,497 --> 00:32:26,957
Thousands of travelers
were stranded.
671
00:32:26,966 --> 00:32:28,496
Among them, ricky martin,
672
00:32:28,500 --> 00:32:31,100
Due to appear at tonight's
latin grammy awards.
673
00:32:31,102 --> 00:32:33,842
Not even
ricky martin could fly.
674
00:32:33,838 --> 00:32:36,768
But really,
who wanted to fly?
675
00:32:36,774 --> 00:32:38,044
No one.
676
00:32:38,041 --> 00:32:40,511
Except the bin ladens.
677
00:32:40,510 --> 00:32:44,140
♪ we got to get
out of this place ♪
678
00:32:44,146 --> 00:32:47,876
♪ if it's the last
thing we ever do ♪
679
00:32:47,883 --> 00:32:50,153
That whole idea of
how I found that thing
680
00:32:50,151 --> 00:32:51,881
On the fbi and the
bush administration
681
00:32:51,886 --> 00:32:54,916
Allowing the bin ladens to
fly out the day after 9/11,
682
00:32:54,922 --> 00:32:57,062
That is directly
from I.F. Stone.
683
00:32:57,057 --> 00:32:58,587
He said to me, he said,
684
00:32:58,591 --> 00:33:01,291
"when you pick up the paper,
you go to page 17 first.
685
00:33:01,293 --> 00:33:02,563
Don't read the front page.
686
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,960
Skip the front page,
go to page 17.
687
00:33:05,963 --> 00:33:07,733
'cause that's where
the truth is.
688
00:33:07,731 --> 00:33:09,201
And it's gonna
be really small.
689
00:33:09,199 --> 00:33:11,899
It might be in a little
two paragraph story,
690
00:33:11,901 --> 00:33:14,671
Or it'll be buried
in paragraph 78,
691
00:33:14,670 --> 00:33:16,270
But that's where
they're putting it,
692
00:33:16,271 --> 00:33:17,571
And they know
what they're doing.
693
00:33:17,572 --> 00:33:18,842
So, you just
go right there."
694
00:33:18,839 --> 00:33:19,969
Yeah.
695
00:33:36,721 --> 00:33:39,291
What I saw and learned
696
00:33:39,291 --> 00:33:43,031
From reading
I.F. Stone's weekly
697
00:33:43,027 --> 00:33:46,557
Was about an agenda
698
00:33:46,563 --> 00:33:48,563
That was not determined
699
00:33:48,565 --> 00:33:51,325
By conventional wisdom.
700
00:33:51,334 --> 00:33:55,804
To me, that's the real
enemy of great reporting
701
00:33:55,805 --> 00:33:57,195
Is conventional wisdom.
702
00:33:57,206 --> 00:33:59,166
-Mrs. Hamblin?
-Yes.
703
00:33:59,174 --> 00:34:01,744
Hi, we're from
the washington post.
704
00:34:01,743 --> 00:34:03,813
I'm carl bernstein,
this is bob woodward.
705
00:34:03,811 --> 00:34:06,311
A friend of the committee said
that we could contact you.
706
00:34:06,313 --> 00:34:10,253
I brought no
ideological baggage.
707
00:34:10,250 --> 00:34:13,420
Whatever my background
was to watergate,
708
00:34:13,419 --> 00:34:16,889
I brought
a reportorial sense to it,
709
00:34:16,889 --> 00:34:18,589
Partly because I thought,
710
00:34:18,590 --> 00:34:20,390
"how could the president
of the united sates
711
00:34:20,391 --> 00:34:22,121
Be involved in
something this dumb?"
712
00:34:22,126 --> 00:34:23,626
At the beginning.
713
00:34:23,627 --> 00:34:26,287
Conventional wisdom is
the enemy of good reporting
714
00:34:26,296 --> 00:34:28,156
And I think izzy
understood that.
715
00:34:28,164 --> 00:34:31,004
I understood that
from the get-go.
716
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:32,600
Can I help you in some way?
717
00:34:32,601 --> 00:34:34,331
Yeah, I'm carl bernstein,
I've been waiting here
718
00:34:34,336 --> 00:34:35,636
-Since nine in the morning.
-Would you wait outside?
719
00:34:35,637 --> 00:34:36,997
I've been waiting
out since this morning.
720
00:34:37,005 --> 00:34:38,195
Go ahead and
finish your call.
721
00:34:38,206 --> 00:34:39,136
Wait outside,
please, will you?
722
00:34:39,140 --> 00:34:40,570
No, no, no, no, no.
723
00:34:40,574 --> 00:34:42,074
I'm the reporter from
the washington post.
724
00:34:42,075 --> 00:34:43,665
We talked on the
telephone yesterday,
725
00:34:43,676 --> 00:34:45,306
And you told me to come
on down here and I'm here.
726
00:34:45,310 --> 00:34:47,440
Okay, yeah,
I got the press here.
727
00:34:47,445 --> 00:34:50,505
Watergate is an unusual
instance, and I mean,
728
00:34:50,514 --> 00:34:52,814
At first people didn't believe
the stories we were writing,
729
00:34:52,816 --> 00:34:55,516
Including most of our colleagues
in the press in washington.
730
00:34:55,518 --> 00:34:58,248
Watergate is
an unusual instance
731
00:34:58,254 --> 00:35:00,394
In which the right
things happened.
732
00:35:00,389 --> 00:35:02,119
Bernstein got
another source.
733
00:35:02,124 --> 00:35:03,524
The guy at justice
confirmed.
734
00:35:04,691 --> 00:35:06,691
If there's any doubt,
we can run it tomorrow.
735
00:35:06,694 --> 00:35:08,634
You don't have to, the story's
solid, we're sure of it.
736
00:35:08,629 --> 00:35:10,329
I just got off the phone
with him, it's gold.
737
00:35:12,898 --> 00:35:14,528
Okay, we go with it.
738
00:35:16,734 --> 00:35:26,844
♪
739
00:35:26,845 --> 00:35:35,745
♪
740
00:35:43,192 --> 00:35:44,662
Normally, when I get in,
741
00:35:44,661 --> 00:35:47,501
Which is around this
time, 1:00, 2:00, 2:30 p.M.,
742
00:35:47,497 --> 00:35:49,497
I see what else
the morning producer,
743
00:35:49,499 --> 00:35:51,329
'cause the morning
producer leaves,
744
00:35:51,334 --> 00:35:53,734
Like, early afternoon
around 3:00,
745
00:35:53,736 --> 00:35:56,436
But he's normally,
you know,
746
00:35:56,438 --> 00:35:59,468
Checked out a few
possible stories,
747
00:35:59,474 --> 00:36:01,644
So depending on
what he suggests
748
00:36:01,642 --> 00:36:03,942
And he's often been in
conversation with amy,
749
00:36:03,944 --> 00:36:06,244
I immediately start
reaching out to people
750
00:36:06,246 --> 00:36:09,376
To guess potential guests.
751
00:36:09,382 --> 00:36:11,082
Yeah, I think that
should be fine.
752
00:36:11,083 --> 00:36:15,993
We'll just make sure to
start with another segment
753
00:36:15,987 --> 00:36:17,717
And then,
you could be on,
754
00:36:17,722 --> 00:36:20,622
Like, at 8:00, at 8:30.
755
00:36:24,460 --> 00:36:27,760
Amira hass is here,
and she leaves Saturday,
756
00:36:27,764 --> 00:36:31,034
So I think we should definitely
have her in the studio tomorrow.
757
00:36:31,033 --> 00:36:32,503
Sharif is here.
758
00:36:32,501 --> 00:36:35,031
-And he has this investigation.
-On yemen, yeah.
759
00:36:35,036 --> 00:36:38,236
And then, anything else that
happens in the world today.
760
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:40,169
Okay, now going to
pitch on the stations
761
00:36:40,174 --> 00:36:41,474
To make sure they're around
762
00:36:41,475 --> 00:36:43,435
So that we can
continue to broadcast.
763
00:36:43,443 --> 00:36:45,343
Okay, that's great,
amy, thank you.
764
00:36:55,953 --> 00:36:57,653
So your son
served in iraq?
765
00:36:57,655 --> 00:37:02,015
Yeah, he survived
like three ambushes,
766
00:37:02,025 --> 00:37:03,355
But he came out
screwed up.
767
00:37:03,359 --> 00:37:07,229
He's, you know,
the ptsd, you know.
768
00:37:10,898 --> 00:37:12,398
Here.
769
00:37:14,267 --> 00:37:16,567
Well, handsome man.
770
00:37:16,570 --> 00:37:18,100
Yeah.
771
00:37:18,104 --> 00:37:21,114
How many life
has to be destroyed?
772
00:37:21,107 --> 00:37:22,467
How many family?
773
00:37:26,377 --> 00:37:28,607
Stupid wars,
you know, it's like...
774
00:37:29,746 --> 00:37:32,706
But you feel kinda,
you know, in danger.
775
00:37:32,716 --> 00:37:34,976
Have you been
threatened before?
776
00:37:34,984 --> 00:37:39,494
There's dangers, yeah,
of working there now.
777
00:37:39,488 --> 00:37:41,488
But the risks we take
778
00:37:41,490 --> 00:37:43,920
Are much less than what
other people are doing,
779
00:37:43,925 --> 00:37:46,225
So especially people
who work in human rights.
780
00:37:46,227 --> 00:37:50,127
They have much bigger risks and
so, compared to them, you know,
781
00:37:50,130 --> 00:37:52,800
You get courage when you--
when you see them work.
782
00:37:52,799 --> 00:37:55,199
You know,
they say, you know,
783
00:37:55,201 --> 00:37:56,801
We're engaged in
a war on terror,
784
00:37:56,802 --> 00:37:58,872
And they use the same
language as they use here,
785
00:37:58,870 --> 00:38:00,400
"war on terror."
786
00:38:00,404 --> 00:38:03,144
But the policies just
result in more terror,
787
00:38:03,140 --> 00:38:05,140
So we have more
terrorism now,
788
00:38:05,142 --> 00:38:06,442
And more war.
789
00:38:10,378 --> 00:38:12,008
I started working
in journalism
790
00:38:12,013 --> 00:38:16,583
Right around the beginning
of the iraq war in 2003.
791
00:38:18,585 --> 00:38:20,545
-Nice to meet you.
-Nice to meet you too.
792
00:38:22,289 --> 00:38:25,759
It was very frustrating
as a young person
793
00:38:25,759 --> 00:38:28,359
Living here in
new york, as an arab,
794
00:38:28,361 --> 00:38:30,961
As someone who was
newly politicized
795
00:38:30,963 --> 00:38:34,833
And watching this massive
invasion being drummed up.
796
00:38:34,833 --> 00:38:37,733
One felt like you had to scream
and say, "this is wrong."
797
00:38:37,735 --> 00:38:39,765
And there were these
kinds of protests
798
00:38:39,770 --> 00:38:42,670
And it was when I first
heard democracy now!
799
00:38:42,672 --> 00:38:45,442
And I first heard
these kinds of voices
800
00:38:45,441 --> 00:38:48,441
That I hadn't heard
at all on other airwaves.
801
00:38:48,444 --> 00:38:51,244
Voices of dissent,
voices of opposition.
802
00:38:51,246 --> 00:38:54,676
People who were
not allowed on the air.
803
00:38:54,682 --> 00:38:57,522
I was very much drawn
to this kind of journalism.
804
00:38:57,518 --> 00:38:59,048
My first day
at democracy now!
805
00:38:59,052 --> 00:39:02,292
Is the first day of the
iraq war, March 19th, 2003.
806
00:39:02,288 --> 00:39:05,118
Reporter nicholas kulish
who broke this story.
807
00:39:05,124 --> 00:39:07,694
All that and more,
coming up.
808
00:39:07,693 --> 00:39:10,493
Amy goodman has nurtured
a number of journalists,
809
00:39:10,495 --> 00:39:12,755
Including sharif
abdel kouddous.
810
00:39:12,763 --> 00:39:15,763
He was a correspondent,
a senior producer,
811
00:39:15,766 --> 00:39:17,926
He was occasionally a co-host,
812
00:39:17,934 --> 00:39:21,504
And then 2011,
the uprising begins in egypt,
813
00:39:21,504 --> 00:39:23,944
The country that
sharif was born in,
814
00:39:23,939 --> 00:39:26,969
And he flies to egypt
815
00:39:26,975 --> 00:39:29,975
And country is almost
unrecognizable to him.
816
00:39:29,978 --> 00:39:33,008
That the fear was gone
and his vivid reporting
817
00:39:33,014 --> 00:39:36,654
Had millions of people
following his reporting.
818
00:39:36,650 --> 00:39:38,880
It's just after 10:00 a.M.
On Tuesday morning.
819
00:39:38,885 --> 00:39:41,345
Today marks the
one week anniversary
820
00:39:41,354 --> 00:39:44,664
Of the popular uprising
that began January 25th.
821
00:39:44,657 --> 00:39:47,957
There's more people here than
I have ever seen in tahrir,
822
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:49,490
Yet in this revolt.
823
00:39:49,494 --> 00:39:50,834
Today's the day
that they say
824
00:39:50,828 --> 00:39:52,558
They're going
to get mubarak out.
825
00:39:58,967 --> 00:40:00,827
For more, we're joined
by sharif abdel kouddous
826
00:40:00,836 --> 00:40:02,666
Who's just
returned from yemen.
827
00:40:02,671 --> 00:40:04,371
He's a democracy now!
Correspondent,
828
00:40:04,372 --> 00:40:05,972
A fellow at the
nation institute,
829
00:40:05,973 --> 00:40:09,913
And he's recently written a
piece for the global post called
830
00:40:09,910 --> 00:40:13,880
"with us help, saudi arabia
is obliterating yemen."
831
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:16,710
It's the first
of a two part series on yemen.
832
00:40:16,716 --> 00:40:19,046
Sharif, start off
by just explaining
833
00:40:19,051 --> 00:40:22,151
What you found in your
weeks-long trip there.
834
00:40:22,154 --> 00:40:23,494
Well, I spent
most of the time
835
00:40:23,488 --> 00:40:25,288
In the houthis controlled
north of yemen
836
00:40:25,289 --> 00:40:26,549
And this is an area
837
00:40:26,556 --> 00:40:28,286
That's been pounded
relentlessly
838
00:40:28,291 --> 00:40:32,531
For the past nine months
with near daily air strikes.
839
00:40:32,528 --> 00:40:34,688
You can't visit a city
or a town in yemen
840
00:40:34,696 --> 00:40:37,796
Without seeing
the destruction on the ground.
841
00:40:37,799 --> 00:40:40,429
Everything has
been hit from homes
842
00:40:40,434 --> 00:40:43,034
To schools, restaurants,
bridges, roads,
843
00:40:43,036 --> 00:40:46,096
A lot of civilian
infrastructure and--
844
00:40:46,105 --> 00:40:48,735
And with that, of course,
comes a lot of the suffering.
845
00:40:48,740 --> 00:40:53,080
♪
846
00:40:53,077 --> 00:40:56,507
The saudi bombing campaign
is backed by the United States
847
00:40:56,513 --> 00:40:58,553
With logistics and
intelligence support,
848
00:40:58,548 --> 00:41:02,018
And I think that's a fact that
many americans don't realize
849
00:41:02,018 --> 00:41:05,318
That they're complicit
with their tax dollars
850
00:41:05,321 --> 00:41:07,821
In this conflict
that has civilians
851
00:41:07,823 --> 00:41:10,363
At the epicenter
of its suffering.
852
00:41:10,358 --> 00:41:12,088
Be very careful
back there.
853
00:41:12,093 --> 00:41:13,163
I will.
854
00:41:16,228 --> 00:41:20,598
♪
855
00:41:20,599 --> 00:41:22,899
These are mass graves
they're combing all day.
856
00:41:22,901 --> 00:41:24,101
Every one is different.
857
00:41:24,102 --> 00:41:26,672
Would you want your
son buried that way?
858
00:41:26,671 --> 00:41:29,241
Or your mom or your
sister or your brother?
859
00:41:29,240 --> 00:41:32,640
I mean, this isn't how you want
someone you love to be buried.
860
00:41:32,642 --> 00:41:47,192
♪
861
00:41:47,189 --> 00:41:48,859
So good to see you.
862
00:41:48,857 --> 00:41:50,717
You too, sorry, I'm standing
in the door to keep it open.
863
00:41:50,725 --> 00:41:52,055
Ah, how are you guys?
864
00:41:52,059 --> 00:41:53,589
I'm great, thank you.
865
00:41:53,593 --> 00:41:56,263
Good, well, we could do
the elevator or the stairs.
866
00:41:56,262 --> 00:41:57,362
How many flights up?
867
00:41:57,363 --> 00:42:00,733
♪
868
00:42:00,733 --> 00:42:03,733
Hey, audrey, do
you remember john?
869
00:42:03,736 --> 00:42:05,866
Audrey, john,
nice to meet you.
870
00:42:05,871 --> 00:42:07,401
Thank you so much
for doing the work.
871
00:42:07,405 --> 00:42:18,875
♪
872
00:42:18,882 --> 00:42:21,082
Okay, john,
so this is what
873
00:42:21,084 --> 00:42:24,194
We end up with oftentimes.
874
00:42:24,187 --> 00:42:26,817
So, you can see
these are really white
875
00:42:26,822 --> 00:42:28,762
Because they're
sun bleached.
876
00:42:28,757 --> 00:42:33,427
So, this person was out
for a long period of time,
877
00:42:33,428 --> 00:42:38,498
And they also sustained quite
a bit of carnivore damage,
878
00:42:38,498 --> 00:42:40,728
But you can see
this is an individual
879
00:42:40,733 --> 00:42:45,243
Who has 206 bones at
a minimum in their body,
880
00:42:45,237 --> 00:42:46,867
And we have three.
881
00:42:46,871 --> 00:42:49,441
And there's no way you will
ever identify this person.
882
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:51,510
Well, we have
taken a dna sample
883
00:42:51,508 --> 00:42:53,538
And this was
actually analyzed
884
00:42:53,543 --> 00:42:55,513
At the central
identification lab
885
00:42:55,511 --> 00:42:57,111
Through the joint
armed forces.
886
00:42:57,112 --> 00:43:01,182
It could be if we can match
this dna sample to a family.
887
00:43:01,182 --> 00:43:10,822
♪
888
00:43:10,824 --> 00:43:15,534
I have no doubt that if
200 poodles were misburied,
889
00:43:15,528 --> 00:43:16,928
Everybody would
be up in arms.
890
00:43:16,929 --> 00:43:19,599
We'd probably change
some sort of poodle law
891
00:43:19,598 --> 00:43:21,758
To make sure that these
were buried properly.
892
00:43:21,766 --> 00:43:24,096
The fact that these
were 200 human migrants,
893
00:43:24,101 --> 00:43:26,601
Mostly latin american,
894
00:43:26,604 --> 00:43:28,774
Is the reason that
nothing has been done.
895
00:43:31,241 --> 00:43:33,411
It's the sole reason
that nothing has been done.
896
00:43:33,409 --> 00:43:35,009
These people don't count.
897
00:43:35,010 --> 00:43:36,910
For the most part, they're
considered to be criminal.
898
00:43:36,911 --> 00:43:38,311
They're here
to rob your jobs,
899
00:43:38,312 --> 00:43:40,252
They're here to
ruin our economy.
900
00:43:40,247 --> 00:43:42,977
Donald trump would like to build
a wall to separate us from them.
901
00:43:42,983 --> 00:43:45,483
They're marginalized
and they're vilified,
902
00:43:45,485 --> 00:43:50,145
So if they die and are thrown
into a hole in the ground,
903
00:43:50,155 --> 00:43:51,385
Good riddance.
904
00:43:52,355 --> 00:43:53,785
Para ti.
905
00:43:55,391 --> 00:43:56,561
¿como te llamas?
906
00:43:56,558 --> 00:43:57,788
-Carlos.
-Carlos.
907
00:43:57,792 --> 00:43:59,362
Soy reportero.
908
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:09,470
♪
909
00:44:09,470 --> 00:44:16,640
♪
910
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:25,020
My father really believed in
the importance of a free press.
911
00:44:25,017 --> 00:44:29,017
He once told me, "if something
goes wrong with the government,
912
00:44:29,020 --> 00:44:31,650
A free press will
ferret it out,
913
00:44:31,655 --> 00:44:33,115
And it will get fixed.
914
00:44:33,123 --> 00:44:35,193
But if something goes
wrong with the free press,
915
00:44:35,191 --> 00:44:37,391
The country will go
straight to hell."
916
00:44:37,393 --> 00:44:39,733
This is
the typewriter on which
917
00:44:39,728 --> 00:44:43,128
My father typed
with two fingers.
918
00:44:43,131 --> 00:44:45,031
So, how long was he
using this typewriter?
919
00:44:45,032 --> 00:44:47,272
Well, as long as I
can remember, really.
920
00:44:47,267 --> 00:44:49,397
It's a--it's amazing that he
would type with two fingers.
921
00:44:49,402 --> 00:44:51,742
So, he never--he never
learned how to type with...
922
00:44:51,737 --> 00:44:53,337
He wasn't very mechanical.
923
00:44:53,338 --> 00:44:56,738
In fact, our cars
kept breaking down
924
00:44:56,741 --> 00:44:58,771
Because he never
changed the oil.
925
00:44:59,942 --> 00:45:12,122
♪
926
00:45:12,121 --> 00:45:16,291
I.F. Stone was both
an investigator and a writer
927
00:45:16,291 --> 00:45:20,531
With sarcasm and wit
and humor in his work,
928
00:45:20,528 --> 00:45:22,228
And today's I.F. Stones,
929
00:45:22,229 --> 00:45:25,129
A lot of them don't come
to that level of writing,
930
00:45:25,131 --> 00:45:29,001
Except when you think
of matt taibbi.
931
00:45:29,001 --> 00:45:31,231
The media has spent
decades turning the news
932
00:45:31,236 --> 00:45:32,366
Into a consumer business
933
00:45:32,370 --> 00:45:34,000
That's basically
indistinguishable
934
00:45:34,004 --> 00:45:36,144
From selling cheeseburgers
or video games.
935
00:45:36,905 --> 00:45:38,005
You want bigger margins,
936
00:45:38,007 --> 00:45:39,267
You just cram
the product full
937
00:45:39,274 --> 00:45:41,414
Of more fat and
sugar and violence
938
00:45:41,409 --> 00:45:44,009
And you wait for your obese,
over-stimulated consumer
939
00:45:44,011 --> 00:45:45,681
To come waddling forth.
940
00:45:45,679 --> 00:45:48,349
♪
941
00:45:48,348 --> 00:45:51,018
Breaking news right now,
just coming into the abc--
942
00:45:51,017 --> 00:45:53,417
The death toll has
risen even higher today.
943
00:45:53,419 --> 00:45:55,989
We start with celebrities
behaving badly.
944
00:45:55,988 --> 00:45:58,188
Squealing, like, panda
lovers all over the planet
945
00:45:58,190 --> 00:46:01,820
Riveted as this mama bear
delivers a cub, and then--
946
00:46:01,826 --> 00:46:04,186
People can
vape without--
947
00:46:04,195 --> 00:46:07,155
As his hover booster
board burst into--
948
00:46:07,164 --> 00:46:09,034
Congresswoman, let me
interrupt you just for a moment,
949
00:46:09,032 --> 00:46:10,902
We've got some
breaking news out of miami.
950
00:46:10,900 --> 00:46:13,000
Stand by, if you will.
951
00:46:13,002 --> 00:46:15,842
Right now, in miami,
justin bieber has been arrested
952
00:46:15,838 --> 00:46:17,198
On a number of
charges that--
953
00:46:18,639 --> 00:46:21,009
What we call right wing and
liberal media in this country
954
00:46:21,009 --> 00:46:22,739
Are really just two
different strategies
955
00:46:22,744 --> 00:46:26,414
Of the same kind of nihilistic
lizard-brain sensationalism.
956
00:46:26,414 --> 00:46:29,254
There's nothing but murders,
bombs, and panda births
957
00:46:29,250 --> 00:46:31,050
Delivering to
thickening couch potatoes
958
00:46:31,051 --> 00:46:35,451
In ever briefer blasts
of 40, 30, 20 seconds.
959
00:46:37,689 --> 00:46:39,359
The world's most
powerful investment bank
960
00:46:39,357 --> 00:46:42,487
Is a great vampire squid wrapped
around the face of humanity,
961
00:46:42,493 --> 00:46:45,563
Relentlessly jamming its
blood funnel into anything
962
00:46:45,562 --> 00:46:47,862
That smells like money.
963
00:46:47,864 --> 00:46:49,864
And the funny part about
that is, of course,
964
00:46:49,866 --> 00:46:52,526
Vampire squids don't
have blood funnels,
965
00:46:52,535 --> 00:46:56,095
So we had a fact checking
issue with that, and it was--
966
00:46:56,105 --> 00:46:57,995
But I thought that was part
of what made that funny
967
00:46:58,006 --> 00:47:01,006
Was that, you know, it was
a nonsensical image, right.
968
00:47:01,009 --> 00:47:02,709
You know, you had
this thing that was
969
00:47:02,710 --> 00:47:04,340
At once terrifying,
and ridiculous.
970
00:47:04,344 --> 00:47:07,384
I thought that summed up
what the bank was all about.
971
00:47:08,278 --> 00:47:12,578
♪
972
00:47:12,582 --> 00:47:16,082
In news from iraq, at least
16 people were killed Thursday
973
00:47:16,085 --> 00:47:19,545
In clashes between us troops
and shia militias in baghdad.
974
00:47:19,555 --> 00:47:23,155
The dead included a photographer
for the reuters news agency,
975
00:47:23,157 --> 00:47:24,517
And his driver.
976
00:47:24,525 --> 00:47:27,425
They apparently came under
fire from a us helicopter.
977
00:47:27,427 --> 00:47:35,467
♪
978
00:47:37,302 --> 00:47:42,442
♪
979
00:48:03,058 --> 00:48:15,598
♪
980
00:48:15,604 --> 00:48:17,744
In December,
democracy now! Traveled
981
00:48:17,739 --> 00:48:19,669
To the calais refugee camp.
982
00:48:19,674 --> 00:48:22,074
The largest
refugee camp in France,
983
00:48:22,076 --> 00:48:24,376
About two hours
north of paris.
984
00:48:24,378 --> 00:48:27,478
Six to seven thousand
people are living there,
985
00:48:27,481 --> 00:48:29,481
Camped out in
makeshift tents.
986
00:48:30,850 --> 00:48:33,250
Occasionally
people stop to talk,
987
00:48:33,253 --> 00:48:36,123
But we've been
warned over and over
988
00:48:36,122 --> 00:48:38,962
That people don't want
their faces shown.
989
00:48:39,690 --> 00:48:41,160
They're afraid.
990
00:48:41,159 --> 00:48:43,089
They're afraid of
being targeted here
991
00:48:43,094 --> 00:48:44,634
And they're afraid
their families
992
00:48:44,628 --> 00:48:46,258
Will be targeted
at home.
993
00:48:47,495 --> 00:48:49,555
Were there drone strikes--
994
00:48:49,564 --> 00:48:51,434
Yes, there were
drone attacks.
995
00:48:51,432 --> 00:48:55,302
They are always killing innocent
people in the villages.
996
00:48:55,302 --> 00:49:00,142
Civilians become very angry and
they join the group of taliban.
997
00:49:00,140 --> 00:49:03,440
So, what do you think
the us should be doing now?
998
00:49:03,443 --> 00:49:06,983
You know, us is just
increasing the war.
999
00:49:06,979 --> 00:49:10,579
Actually, us don't want
to finish the war.
1000
00:49:10,581 --> 00:49:12,181
It's their game.
1001
00:49:12,182 --> 00:49:14,522
It's the game of...
1002
00:49:14,517 --> 00:49:17,317
George w. Bush, obama.
1003
00:49:17,319 --> 00:49:21,419
They don't care about the
people who are dying there.
1004
00:49:21,423 --> 00:49:24,563
President obama said the war
is ending in afghanistan.
1005
00:49:24,559 --> 00:49:25,929
Do you see it ending?
1006
00:49:27,727 --> 00:49:29,657
Until americans
leave afghanistan,
1007
00:49:29,663 --> 00:49:32,303
It will be not ending.
1008
00:49:32,298 --> 00:49:33,758
Never.
1009
00:49:33,766 --> 00:49:35,226
The map of this camp,
1010
00:49:35,234 --> 00:49:39,344
It's a map of where
refugees are from.
1011
00:49:39,337 --> 00:49:41,167
Most of these countries
have been bombed
1012
00:49:41,172 --> 00:49:43,112
By the United States.
1013
00:49:43,107 --> 00:49:45,607
Syria, afghanistan,
1014
00:49:45,609 --> 00:49:47,339
Iraq, sudan.
1015
00:49:48,577 --> 00:49:50,677
I didn't think about it,
but that is true.
1016
00:49:51,946 --> 00:49:53,476
What's very
important to explain
1017
00:49:53,481 --> 00:49:55,411
And what's
systematically lacking
1018
00:49:55,416 --> 00:49:57,816
In all the accounts
that I had come across
1019
00:49:57,818 --> 00:49:59,618
In the mainstream media,
1020
00:49:59,619 --> 00:50:01,149
Why is this happening?
1021
00:50:01,153 --> 00:50:02,753
Why are these people
where they are?
1022
00:50:02,754 --> 00:50:06,724
Why are they suffering
the most inhumane conditions,
1023
00:50:06,724 --> 00:50:09,194
The most abject degradation,
1024
00:50:09,193 --> 00:50:11,693
And of course, it's very
important to have empathy
1025
00:50:11,695 --> 00:50:14,325
And solidarity for the
suffering of these people,
1026
00:50:14,330 --> 00:50:15,960
But we can't think
that the suffering
1027
00:50:15,964 --> 00:50:17,364
Has fallen out of the sky,
1028
00:50:17,365 --> 00:50:19,125
And they're just
particularly benighted
1029
00:50:19,133 --> 00:50:22,273
Because they happen to have been
the subject of that, right.
1030
00:50:22,269 --> 00:50:24,499
There are policies
that have been enacted.
1031
00:50:24,504 --> 00:50:26,504
There are decisions
that have been made.
1032
00:50:26,506 --> 00:50:28,206
There are bombs
that have been dropped.
1033
00:50:28,207 --> 00:50:31,167
As a consequence of which,
these millions of people
1034
00:50:31,176 --> 00:50:33,136
Are destitute in
the way that they are,
1035
00:50:33,144 --> 00:50:36,354
And we have to allow
them to tell that story.
1036
00:50:36,347 --> 00:50:40,247
Do you think the
russian, syrian, french,
1037
00:50:40,250 --> 00:50:43,720
British bombing of
syria will save it?
1038
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:45,119
No, no, no.
1039
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:47,290
It's not the solution.
1040
00:50:47,288 --> 00:50:51,088
You can't protect someone
by killing someone else.
1041
00:50:54,826 --> 00:50:58,556
♪
1042
00:50:58,564 --> 00:51:01,204
In international waters,
in the gulf of tonkin,
1043
00:51:01,199 --> 00:51:03,169
Destroyers of the
United States navy
1044
00:51:03,167 --> 00:51:06,397
Are assigned routine
patrols from time to time.
1045
00:51:06,403 --> 00:51:09,343
Sunday, August
the 2nd, 1964,
1046
00:51:09,339 --> 00:51:12,269
The destroyer, maddox,
was on such a patrol.
1047
00:51:12,275 --> 00:51:15,305
Shortly after noon,
the calm of the day is broken
1048
00:51:15,311 --> 00:51:17,081
As general quarters sound.
1049
00:51:18,512 --> 00:51:20,752
In a deliberate
and unprovoked action,
1050
00:51:20,748 --> 00:51:24,648
Three north vietnam pt boats
unleash a torpedo attack
1051
00:51:24,651 --> 00:51:26,351
Against the maddox.
1052
00:51:26,352 --> 00:51:28,692
A classic example of
I.F. Stone's ability
1053
00:51:28,687 --> 00:51:32,387
To ferret out something
when no one else was doing it
1054
00:51:32,390 --> 00:51:36,960
Was the gulf of tonkin excuse
for going into vietnam.
1055
00:51:36,961 --> 00:51:49,371
♪
1056
00:52:07,656 --> 00:52:12,486
Three weeks after we had
the so-called attack
1057
00:52:12,494 --> 00:52:16,704
By the north vietnamese,
izzy read all the after reports,
1058
00:52:16,698 --> 00:52:20,298
And he said, "where--where's
the debris if we had been hit?
1059
00:52:20,301 --> 00:52:22,331
Why isn't there more
being talked about?"
1060
00:52:22,336 --> 00:52:24,766
And he said there were
all kinds of excuses
1061
00:52:24,771 --> 00:52:27,241
Why this little, tiny
country would go against
1062
00:52:27,240 --> 00:52:28,870
The largest fleet
in the world,
1063
00:52:28,874 --> 00:52:32,514
Except the fact that it
might have been provoked.
1064
00:52:32,510 --> 00:52:35,680
All of the media was just
following it right into war,
1065
00:52:35,679 --> 00:52:38,049
As was congress,
and I keep thinking
1066
00:52:38,048 --> 00:52:41,248
If the mainstream media
had followed izzy,
1067
00:52:41,251 --> 00:52:43,751
We might not have had
that ten year disaster.
1068
00:52:43,753 --> 00:52:47,693
♪
1069
00:52:49,624 --> 00:52:52,734
♪
1070
00:52:52,727 --> 00:52:55,427
We hadn't been able to
get it through our heads
1071
00:52:55,429 --> 00:52:58,129
That this is
a political war.
1072
00:52:58,131 --> 00:52:59,531
All you have to
ask yourself is
1073
00:52:59,532 --> 00:53:03,132
Why is it that here
are vietnamese
1074
00:53:03,135 --> 00:53:04,665
On one side, on our side,
1075
00:53:04,669 --> 00:53:07,569
And here are the same
vietnamese on the other side.
1076
00:53:07,571 --> 00:53:09,871
And on one side, they have
very little in the way of arms.
1077
00:53:09,873 --> 00:53:13,113
They have no air force,
no napalm, no big boom-boom,
1078
00:53:13,109 --> 00:53:15,009
And they really
fight magnificently.
1079
00:53:15,010 --> 00:53:17,710
And on our side, you have
five times as many troops,
1080
00:53:17,712 --> 00:53:20,752
All that equipment, all that
firepower, all that artillery,
1081
00:53:20,748 --> 00:53:22,578
And they're
not worth a damn.
1082
00:53:22,583 --> 00:53:25,153
A lot of people protested
I.F. Stone's being on,
1083
00:53:25,152 --> 00:53:27,722
Because can you imagine
he had the nerve
1084
00:53:27,721 --> 00:53:31,361
To say things against
our war policy?
1085
00:53:31,357 --> 00:53:32,857
Well, it was
bold at the time
1086
00:53:32,858 --> 00:53:36,328
When we were suffering
with all kinds of things.
1087
00:53:36,328 --> 00:53:38,698
Assassinations,
and the vietnam war,
1088
00:53:38,697 --> 00:53:41,457
A subject on which stone
was quite brilliant,
1089
00:53:41,466 --> 00:53:42,996
And how we got into it
1090
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:45,100
And how we were probably
never gonna get out of it
1091
00:53:45,102 --> 00:53:46,572
The way we were
going and it was--
1092
00:53:46,570 --> 00:53:48,940
Took guts to say
those things.
1093
00:53:48,939 --> 00:53:51,339
The extreme right and
the hate mail writers
1094
00:53:51,341 --> 00:53:53,011
Were always ready to go.
1095
00:53:53,009 --> 00:53:56,079
Ask any solider back from
vietnam, he'll agree with me.
1096
00:53:56,078 --> 00:53:58,508
I don't mean to say there
aren't brave men among them,
1097
00:53:58,513 --> 00:54:01,453
And some good troops,
but on the whole,
1098
00:54:01,449 --> 00:54:03,679
The men on one side
are fighting
1099
00:54:03,684 --> 00:54:06,354
And the men on the other side
don't care and are deserting.
1100
00:54:06,353 --> 00:54:07,653
Why is this?
1101
00:54:07,654 --> 00:54:09,424
Why, because the men
on the other side
1102
00:54:09,422 --> 00:54:11,392
Feel they're
fighting for freedom.
1103
00:54:11,390 --> 00:54:12,990
They're fighting
for freedom from--
1104
00:54:12,991 --> 00:54:16,691
From domination by the white
man, and by the westerner.
1105
00:54:16,694 --> 00:54:19,764
I.F. Stone would be debunking
the official fictions
1106
00:54:19,763 --> 00:54:22,333
As soon as government
was spewing them.
1107
00:54:22,332 --> 00:54:25,432
Whether it was during
the joe mccarthy era,
1108
00:54:25,435 --> 00:54:28,365
Or all of the lies
about vietnam.
1109
00:54:28,371 --> 00:54:30,571
You could read
izzy stone within a week,
1110
00:54:30,573 --> 00:54:32,773
And he was debunking
these fictions.
1111
00:54:34,342 --> 00:54:37,582
We need to know
what governments do.
1112
00:54:37,579 --> 00:54:39,709
We need to know
what's real,
1113
00:54:39,714 --> 00:54:42,714
And we need to know
what's bullshit.
1114
00:54:43,782 --> 00:54:45,482
And that's the
biggest problem,
1115
00:54:45,484 --> 00:54:49,254
And izzy was great
1116
00:54:49,253 --> 00:54:51,953
At saying,
"hey, I checked.
1117
00:54:51,955 --> 00:54:54,085
This is bullshit."
1118
00:54:54,090 --> 00:54:57,560
Just as izzy wrote and
published I.F. Stone's weekly
1119
00:54:57,560 --> 00:54:59,590
Out of his home
with his wife,
1120
00:54:59,595 --> 00:55:01,655
Esther, managing
the accounts,
1121
00:55:01,663 --> 00:55:05,503
Tom engelhardt with his
blog, tomdispatch.Com,
1122
00:55:05,500 --> 00:55:08,530
Is another example
of how a journalist
1123
00:55:08,536 --> 00:55:11,236
Working from
a small office at home
1124
00:55:11,238 --> 00:55:13,638
Can reach
a very wide audience
1125
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:16,510
With independent
reporting and analysis.
1126
00:55:16,509 --> 00:55:17,979
On how I started
tomdispatch,
1127
00:55:17,977 --> 00:55:20,637
You'd have to go back
to literally to 9/11,
1128
00:55:20,646 --> 00:55:23,576
And our news began
to constrict, you know,
1129
00:55:23,582 --> 00:55:26,022
In a way I hadn't seen, even
at the height of the cold war,
1130
00:55:26,017 --> 00:55:27,477
As far as I was concerned.
1131
00:55:27,485 --> 00:55:30,445
And I suddenly
realized that out there,
1132
00:55:30,454 --> 00:55:31,994
There was another
kind of news.
1133
00:55:31,988 --> 00:55:33,988
I started obsessively
gathering this stuff,
1134
00:55:33,990 --> 00:55:36,460
And then, and writing
little comments,
1135
00:55:36,459 --> 00:55:38,889
And my little comments
became a kind of commentary
1136
00:55:38,894 --> 00:55:41,134
And then this was the
miracle of the internet,
1137
00:55:41,129 --> 00:55:42,699
People started jumping on.
1138
00:55:42,697 --> 00:55:44,427
People started writing me and
saying, "can I be on your list?"
1139
00:55:44,432 --> 00:55:46,002
I didn't even really
know I had a list,
1140
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:48,100
And suddenly, I had
a list of 400 people
1141
00:55:48,102 --> 00:55:51,342
Including journalists and I
mean, susan sontag wrote me,
1142
00:55:51,338 --> 00:55:52,538
I mean, out of the blue.
1143
00:55:52,539 --> 00:55:53,599
I didn't know
susan sontag.
1144
00:55:53,606 --> 00:55:55,166
I'm now almost 71.
1145
00:55:55,174 --> 00:55:56,874
I'm plunged into,
I was from the beginning,
1146
00:55:56,875 --> 00:55:59,175
Plunged into a world
of much younger people.
1147
00:55:59,177 --> 00:56:00,807
I had no idea
what I was doing,
1148
00:56:00,811 --> 00:56:03,381
But I had been working
as a book editor
1149
00:56:03,380 --> 00:56:04,680
With great writers for years.
1150
00:56:04,681 --> 00:56:07,111
Chalmers johnson,
all sorts of people.
1151
00:56:07,116 --> 00:56:09,746
And I started asking them
once this thing started,
1152
00:56:09,751 --> 00:56:12,051
I started asking them if
they wanted to, you know,
1153
00:56:12,053 --> 00:56:15,393
Write and it was like this
kind of communal activity,
1154
00:56:15,389 --> 00:56:18,819
And it's turned from that thing
that it was into what it is now,
1155
00:56:18,825 --> 00:56:21,555
Which is my little
intros and then a piece.
1156
00:56:21,561 --> 00:56:23,631
I mean, it could be by me
or by any one of a--
1157
00:56:23,629 --> 00:56:26,499
I think a pretty
striking set of writers.
1158
00:56:27,296 --> 00:56:38,406
♪
1159
00:56:38,407 --> 00:56:40,507
The establishment reporters,
without a doubt,
1160
00:56:40,509 --> 00:56:42,479
Know a lot of things
I don't know,
1161
00:56:42,477 --> 00:56:44,937
But a lot of what
they know isn't true.
1162
00:56:44,946 --> 00:56:48,976
He was a fantastic
journalist and the--
1163
00:56:48,982 --> 00:56:50,752
As he himself pointed out,
1164
00:56:50,750 --> 00:56:53,420
The greatest contribution
to his career
1165
00:56:53,419 --> 00:56:55,019
Was his being excluded.
1166
00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:57,720
He didn't have,
as he pointed out,
1167
00:56:57,722 --> 00:56:59,392
He didn't have
to waste his time
1168
00:56:59,390 --> 00:57:01,990
Going to press conferences
'cause he wasn't invited,
1169
00:57:01,992 --> 00:57:04,692
So he didn't have to hear
all the deceit and the lies
1170
00:57:04,694 --> 00:57:06,864
And so he didn't have to
waste his time repeating them.
1171
00:57:06,862 --> 00:57:09,632
He could just go
straight to the documents,
1172
00:57:09,631 --> 00:57:12,671
To the historical record,
see what's happening,
1173
00:57:12,667 --> 00:57:14,497
And he did it brilliantly.
1174
00:57:18,037 --> 00:57:19,697
Going in the
white house and going
1175
00:57:19,706 --> 00:57:21,906
And asking questions
of the press secretary,
1176
00:57:21,908 --> 00:57:23,938
It's a job that some
people have to do.
1177
00:57:23,943 --> 00:57:27,613
It's not often that you develop
new information from doing that,
1178
00:57:27,613 --> 00:57:30,413
And it just becomes
a battle of spins.
1179
00:57:30,415 --> 00:57:31,875
I do remember going once
1180
00:57:31,883 --> 00:57:34,853
And ari fleischer
was press secretary
1181
00:57:34,852 --> 00:57:38,852
And he kept, just
saying the same thing.
1182
00:57:38,855 --> 00:57:41,315
"no, it's true, it's true."
1183
00:57:41,324 --> 00:57:44,094
I go, "but this report
just came out from wherever
1184
00:57:44,093 --> 00:57:46,963
And it says that actually
that didn't happen."
1185
00:57:46,962 --> 00:57:49,202
And he goes,
"no, but it did happen."
1186
00:57:49,197 --> 00:57:52,997
And I really felt like I was
talking to a guy who was saying,
1187
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:54,430
"the sky is green."
1188
00:57:54,434 --> 00:57:56,734
And I would say, "no, no, no,
actually, the sky is blue."
1189
00:57:56,736 --> 00:57:59,696
He goes, "no, no,
the sky is green."
1190
00:57:59,705 --> 00:58:03,005
And you can only do that so
much, and people, you know,
1191
00:58:03,008 --> 00:58:05,578
Who are on that side
will say, damn it is!
1192
00:58:06,743 --> 00:58:08,813
We ask each nation
on the security council
1193
00:58:08,812 --> 00:58:11,982
To weigh the merits that make
a decision about war and peace,
1194
00:58:11,981 --> 00:58:15,851
And if anybody thinks that
there are nations, like mexico,
1195
00:58:15,851 --> 00:58:18,951
Whose vote could be bought
on the basis of a trade issue
1196
00:58:18,954 --> 00:58:21,794
Or something else like that,
I think you're giving--
1197
00:58:21,790 --> 00:58:24,320
Do a grave injustice
to the independence
1198
00:58:24,325 --> 00:58:26,755
And the judgment of the
leaders of other nations.
1199
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:28,560
Think about the implications
what you're saying.
1200
00:58:28,561 --> 00:58:31,631
You're saying that the leaders
of other nations are buyable
1201
00:58:31,630 --> 00:58:33,860
And that is not
an acceptable proposition.
1202
00:58:37,001 --> 00:58:38,071
Thank you.
1203
00:58:42,272 --> 00:58:46,572
♪
1204
00:58:51,679 --> 00:58:53,609
Good afternoon, everybody.
1205
00:58:53,615 --> 00:58:56,315
What concerns does
the president have
1206
00:58:56,317 --> 00:59:00,387
About the possibility that
donald trump could someday
1207
00:59:00,387 --> 00:59:02,487
Be the us commander in chief?
1208
00:59:02,489 --> 00:59:04,689
The president
has confidence
1209
00:59:04,691 --> 00:59:06,921
That if mr. Trump is
the republican nominee,
1210
00:59:06,926 --> 00:59:08,826
He will not win
the general election.
1211
00:59:08,827 --> 00:59:11,287
It's kind of a, you know,
a bit of a kabuki,
1212
00:59:11,296 --> 00:59:15,556
Theatrical production each day,
and so he's here facing,
1213
00:59:15,566 --> 00:59:18,026
I don't know how
many reporters, 70--
1214
00:59:18,035 --> 00:59:19,465
70 reporters or so,
1215
00:59:19,469 --> 00:59:22,939
Who really want to
drive him off message,
1216
00:59:22,939 --> 00:59:26,009
And so he has to come out
and seem more or less
1217
00:59:26,008 --> 00:59:28,508
To be answering questions
without saying anything
1218
00:59:28,510 --> 00:59:29,910
That's gonna make news.
1219
00:59:29,911 --> 00:59:33,211
What is the president
hearing from us allies
1220
00:59:33,214 --> 00:59:36,624
And those who participate
in us military operations
1221
00:59:36,617 --> 00:59:38,217
Alongside americans?
1222
00:59:38,218 --> 00:59:40,918
I'm not gonna be able to
share any secret details
1223
00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:43,120
Of conversations that
the president has had
1224
00:59:43,122 --> 00:59:45,062
With other world leaders,
1225
00:59:45,057 --> 00:59:47,917
But there are global
consequences for arguments
1226
00:59:47,926 --> 00:59:50,086
That are made by
domestic politicians.
1227
00:59:50,094 --> 00:59:52,194
But I think, you know,
1228
00:59:52,196 --> 00:59:55,056
The white house should
recognize that the media,
1229
00:59:55,065 --> 00:59:57,925
Which represents the public
to some degree, you know,
1230
00:59:57,934 --> 00:59:59,734
Has the right
to ask questions
1231
00:59:59,735 --> 01:00:01,735
And that sometimes
they have to answer things
1232
01:00:01,737 --> 01:00:03,367
That aren't really, maybe,
1233
01:00:03,371 --> 01:00:06,141
What they most are interested
in talking about that day.
1234
01:00:12,443 --> 01:00:13,683
Hello?
1235
01:00:15,145 --> 01:00:16,205
Oh, I wouldn't--I mean,
1236
01:00:16,213 --> 01:00:18,013
I thought we already
went over this,
1237
01:00:18,014 --> 01:00:20,954
But you will not be identified
as a source for anything.
1238
01:00:20,951 --> 01:00:25,591
Your name will not, you know,
appear as, you know,
1239
01:00:25,588 --> 01:00:28,388
Being connected
to these documents
1240
01:00:28,390 --> 01:00:32,230
And certainly no quotes
from anything we talked about.
1241
01:00:32,227 --> 01:00:36,297
One of david corn's major
scoops was the 47% video,
1242
01:00:36,297 --> 01:00:40,327
Where you had presidential
candidate, mitt romney,
1243
01:00:40,334 --> 01:00:42,934
Do a $50,000-a-plate dinner
1244
01:00:42,936 --> 01:00:47,236
Talking about how 47%
of the us public were moochers.
1245
01:01:00,051 --> 01:01:02,991
When this comes out,
thanks to david corn,
1246
01:01:02,988 --> 01:01:05,888
It changes the momentum
of the 2012 race
1247
01:01:05,890 --> 01:01:07,660
Between romney and obama.
1248
01:01:19,267 --> 01:01:22,437
The president of the united
states defeats mitt romney
1249
01:01:22,437 --> 01:01:24,797
In this--at this
time right now,
1250
01:01:24,806 --> 01:01:26,266
We have made
this projection.
1251
01:01:26,274 --> 01:01:29,014
So, the president
wins this battle.
1252
01:01:29,010 --> 01:01:34,150
♪
1253
01:01:34,148 --> 01:01:37,148
When the source
with the 47% video
1254
01:01:37,151 --> 01:01:40,191
Is looking to bring
that to the public,
1255
01:01:40,187 --> 01:01:43,887
He didn't take it
to nbc news or cbs news.
1256
01:01:43,890 --> 01:01:46,260
He takes it to david corn
in mother jones
1257
01:01:46,259 --> 01:01:49,329
Because he'd seen
the investigative work
1258
01:01:49,328 --> 01:01:52,958
In the previous months that
corn had been doing on romney.
1259
01:01:52,964 --> 01:01:57,374
♪
1260
01:01:57,368 --> 01:02:00,068
Okay, here's the
list of the folks
1261
01:02:00,070 --> 01:02:02,240
Who testified
at the trial,
1262
01:02:02,238 --> 01:02:04,368
So they're the ones
we need to find.
1263
01:02:04,373 --> 01:02:05,413
Will do.
1264
01:02:05,407 --> 01:02:09,207
♪
1265
01:02:09,210 --> 01:02:10,940
There's new
intelligence today
1266
01:02:10,945 --> 01:02:13,905
Indicating saddam hussein
has stepped up his efforts
1267
01:02:13,914 --> 01:02:15,654
To obtain nuclear weapons.
1268
01:02:15,649 --> 01:02:18,449
The latest information,
us officials saying
1269
01:02:18,451 --> 01:02:20,451
That over the
past 14 months,
1270
01:02:20,453 --> 01:02:24,793
They have seen saddam hussein
trying to obtain weapons
1271
01:02:24,789 --> 01:02:28,219
To try and build
an atomic bomb.
1272
01:02:28,225 --> 01:02:32,725
It was basically sort
of a feedback loop.
1273
01:02:32,728 --> 01:02:34,788
The administration
was out there
1274
01:02:34,796 --> 01:02:37,226
Starting to beat the
drums for war in iraq.
1275
01:02:37,231 --> 01:02:41,071
The new york times, anxious
to be ahead of the pack,
1276
01:02:41,067 --> 01:02:43,797
And to get
the real scoop
1277
01:02:43,803 --> 01:02:46,143
When they found
people with--
1278
01:02:46,138 --> 01:02:48,868
Administration officials
who were presenting evidence
1279
01:02:48,874 --> 01:02:50,774
That wasn't that strong,
1280
01:02:50,775 --> 01:02:52,805
But the new york times
went with the story
1281
01:02:52,810 --> 01:02:55,110
And then dick cheney
cited that story to say,
1282
01:02:55,112 --> 01:02:56,582
"look, the new york times."
1283
01:02:56,580 --> 01:02:58,280
It was already coming
out of the administration.
1284
01:02:58,281 --> 01:02:59,711
He now is trying,
1285
01:02:59,715 --> 01:03:01,875
Through his illicit
procurement network,
1286
01:03:01,883 --> 01:03:05,523
To acquire the
equipment he needs
1287
01:03:05,519 --> 01:03:08,419
To be able to enrich
uranium to make the bombs.
1288
01:03:08,421 --> 01:03:09,951
Specifically aluminum tubes.
1289
01:03:09,955 --> 01:03:12,155
There's a story in
the new york times this morning.
1290
01:03:12,990 --> 01:03:16,990
The lead up to
the war in iraq.
1291
01:03:16,995 --> 01:03:20,395
The particularly egregious
case is the new york times,
1292
01:03:20,398 --> 01:03:23,568
There's no question
about it, because it--
1293
01:03:23,567 --> 01:03:26,067
It ran stories
1294
01:03:26,069 --> 01:03:29,799
Contrary to the truth.
1295
01:03:29,805 --> 01:03:33,735
It ran stories
that the sources
1296
01:03:33,742 --> 01:03:35,712
Had planted information
1297
01:03:35,710 --> 01:03:39,840
That should have been checked
out and the sources were--
1298
01:03:39,846 --> 01:03:41,706
Were questionable
to begin with
1299
01:03:41,714 --> 01:03:44,114
In terms of their
own objectives,
1300
01:03:44,116 --> 01:03:46,676
So the times is
a particular case
1301
01:03:46,685 --> 01:03:49,385
Of particularly
great failing.
1302
01:03:49,387 --> 01:03:50,987
There's nothing
like experiencing
1303
01:03:50,988 --> 01:03:53,088
The world's
finest journalism
1304
01:03:53,090 --> 01:03:54,960
In its original form.
1305
01:03:56,391 --> 01:03:57,961
And I want to
attribute the times,
1306
01:03:57,960 --> 01:03:59,890
I don't want to
talk about, obviously,
1307
01:03:59,895 --> 01:04:01,825
Specific
intelligence sources,
1308
01:04:01,830 --> 01:04:05,200
But it's now public,
that in fact,
1309
01:04:05,200 --> 01:04:08,270
He has been seeking to
acquire the kinds of tubes
1310
01:04:08,269 --> 01:04:10,669
That are necessary
to build a centrifuge.
1311
01:04:10,671 --> 01:04:12,201
♪
1312
01:04:12,205 --> 01:04:13,995
I remember,
particularly,
1313
01:04:14,006 --> 01:04:17,036
Watching cheney
on meet the press.
1314
01:04:19,208 --> 01:04:21,738
And throwing
out this stuff,
1315
01:04:21,744 --> 01:04:24,644
And saying to
my wife, saying,
1316
01:04:24,646 --> 01:04:25,946
"this is bullshit.
1317
01:04:25,947 --> 01:04:27,747
There's something
missing here."
1318
01:04:27,748 --> 01:04:31,078
There will always
be some uncertainty
1319
01:04:31,084 --> 01:04:34,154
About how quickly he can
acquire nuclear weapons,
1320
01:04:34,153 --> 01:04:37,523
But we don't want the smoking
gun to be a mushroom cloud.
1321
01:04:38,722 --> 01:04:40,262
Two days, I think it was,
1322
01:04:40,257 --> 01:04:43,387
Before the war was
launched in March 2003.
1323
01:04:43,393 --> 01:04:46,133
The washington post
had a great story
1324
01:04:46,129 --> 01:04:47,699
And the headline
was something like,
1325
01:04:47,697 --> 01:04:51,367
"much of the bush
administration's case for war
1326
01:04:51,367 --> 01:04:55,237
Is inaccurate or
wrong, experts say."
1327
01:04:55,237 --> 01:04:58,707
And it was on page a19,
it was, you know, inside,
1328
01:04:58,707 --> 01:05:02,277
And the question that
I've had since that point
1329
01:05:02,277 --> 01:05:05,307
Is under what
definition of news
1330
01:05:05,313 --> 01:05:08,353
Is that not
a front page story?
1331
01:05:08,349 --> 01:05:10,879
That experts say
administration's case for war
1332
01:05:10,884 --> 01:05:12,324
Is wrong.
1333
01:05:12,318 --> 01:05:22,428
♪
1334
01:05:22,428 --> 01:05:28,998
♪
1335
01:05:31,503 --> 01:05:32,843
Two trumps.
1336
01:05:32,837 --> 01:05:34,267
-Yeah, two trumps.
-And I added a line.
1337
01:05:38,139 --> 01:05:40,469
Yes, lisa,
this is the order,
1338
01:05:40,475 --> 01:05:42,405
And what's circled
and not circled.
1339
01:05:42,410 --> 01:05:45,210
I think that on the
lloyd blankfein one,
1340
01:05:45,212 --> 01:05:48,182
I would end on
my tsunami analogy.
1341
01:05:48,181 --> 01:05:49,751
"and it's about to
crash on their head."
1342
01:05:49,749 --> 01:05:50,879
On their heads, yes.
1343
01:05:50,883 --> 01:05:52,483
Okay.
1344
01:05:52,484 --> 01:05:54,324
I.F. Stone was onto
something really smart
1345
01:05:54,319 --> 01:05:56,089
With the
subscription business.
1346
01:05:56,087 --> 01:05:58,487
What a lot of people miss
about that business model,
1347
01:05:58,489 --> 01:06:00,489
Which in general was
a smart business model,
1348
01:06:00,491 --> 01:06:03,761
It puts your financial
incentives in the right place.
1349
01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:06,990
If your financial incentives
are to please advertisers,
1350
01:06:06,996 --> 01:06:09,256
You will please
advertisers, right.
1351
01:06:09,264 --> 01:06:12,164
But in the long run,
you want to incentivize yourself
1352
01:06:12,166 --> 01:06:14,266
To be aligned
with your audience.
1353
01:06:14,268 --> 01:06:15,568
The way you're aligned
with your audience
1354
01:06:15,569 --> 01:06:17,939
Is if your audience
is paying you.
1355
01:06:17,938 --> 01:06:19,968
So, if you go in
the wrong direction,
1356
01:06:19,973 --> 01:06:22,743
They punish you
by saying, "I'm leaving
1357
01:06:22,742 --> 01:06:25,312
And I'm not paying you
the subscription anymore."
1358
01:06:25,311 --> 01:06:27,111
That was true of I.F. Stone
with his newsletter,
1359
01:06:27,112 --> 01:06:28,642
It's true of our show
1360
01:06:28,646 --> 01:06:31,276
Because we have a subscription
model on our website.
1361
01:06:31,281 --> 01:06:37,521
♪
1362
01:06:37,520 --> 01:06:39,220
Now, you can't get
carried away with it,
1363
01:06:39,221 --> 01:06:41,291
Because sometimes you have
to act out of principle,
1364
01:06:41,289 --> 01:06:43,219
Even if it loses
you subscribers.
1365
01:06:43,224 --> 01:06:45,664
For example, after
president obama was elected,
1366
01:06:45,659 --> 01:06:47,129
I began to criticize him
1367
01:06:47,127 --> 01:06:49,027
For some of the things
that I realized, whoa,
1368
01:06:49,028 --> 01:06:50,458
Well, that's not
a progressive position,
1369
01:06:50,462 --> 01:06:52,402
And that's not
a progressive position.
1370
01:06:52,397 --> 01:06:54,527
And in the beginning we
lost a lot of subscribers
1371
01:06:54,532 --> 01:06:56,502
'cause people said,
"whoa, no, wait a minute now.
1372
01:06:56,500 --> 01:06:58,470
We worked hard to get
president obama elected.
1373
01:06:58,468 --> 01:07:00,528
You seem like you're being
disrespectful to him."
1374
01:07:00,536 --> 01:07:02,336
Well, there you got
to stand on principle
1375
01:07:02,337 --> 01:07:04,937
And we survived that and
then those guys came back,
1376
01:07:04,939 --> 01:07:07,669
And even more came back
when they realized,
1377
01:07:07,675 --> 01:07:09,135
"oh damn, you were right."
1378
01:07:09,143 --> 01:07:12,283
Hillary clinton is tired
1379
01:07:12,279 --> 01:07:15,109
Of the bernie sanders
camp's lies, she says.
1380
01:07:15,115 --> 01:07:16,745
In fact, here,
let me show you.
1381
01:07:16,749 --> 01:07:17,949
This is when
she had a run-in
1382
01:07:17,950 --> 01:07:19,420
With a greenpeace activist.
1383
01:07:19,418 --> 01:07:21,318
Can we talk about
climate change?
1384
01:07:34,363 --> 01:07:37,333
When people make
these kinds of claims,
1385
01:07:37,333 --> 01:07:39,503
Which now I think
have been debunked,
1386
01:07:39,501 --> 01:07:42,171
Actually the washington post
said three pinocchios.
1387
01:07:42,170 --> 01:07:44,300
The new york times
also analyzed it.
1388
01:07:44,305 --> 01:07:46,565
She says that,
"oh no, it's debunked."
1389
01:07:46,573 --> 01:07:48,643
Okay, great, I'll go
to the source itself
1390
01:07:48,641 --> 01:07:50,511
That quote, unquote,
"debunked" the story.
1391
01:07:50,509 --> 01:07:51,539
Washington post.
1392
01:08:01,017 --> 01:08:04,947
So, that adds up to all the
donations to hillary clinton,
1393
01:08:04,954 --> 01:08:06,724
Up to more than
$4.5 million,
1394
01:08:06,722 --> 01:08:08,092
So they acknowledge it.
1395
01:08:08,090 --> 01:08:09,990
They acknowledge it,
right there, right?
1396
01:08:09,991 --> 01:08:11,561
But it's still
only two percent
1397
01:08:11,559 --> 01:08:13,589
Of the total contributions
received by clinton
1398
01:08:13,594 --> 01:08:15,394
And outside groups
backing her.
1399
01:08:15,395 --> 01:08:17,955
Now, that's true, but think
about that for a second.
1400
01:08:17,964 --> 01:08:20,204
Their excuse for her
is, "yeah, I know,
1401
01:08:20,199 --> 01:08:22,699
She took four and a half million
bucks from the oil guys,
1402
01:08:22,701 --> 01:08:25,871
But she's taking so much
more from the others.
1403
01:08:25,870 --> 01:08:28,500
The bribes that the oil
and gas companies gave her
1404
01:08:28,505 --> 01:08:30,935
Are small compared to
what the banks gave her."
1405
01:08:30,940 --> 01:08:32,310
See, not guilty.
1406
01:08:32,308 --> 01:08:34,938
Bernie sanders is a liar.
1407
01:08:34,943 --> 01:08:36,913
So, elizabeth warren,
that's an interview--
1408
01:08:36,911 --> 01:08:38,881
I don't think there
is even video of that.
1409
01:08:38,879 --> 01:08:40,479
I think it's ib times.
1410
01:08:40,480 --> 01:08:44,880
But we do have the panel on
morning joe and on hannity.
1411
01:08:44,884 --> 01:08:46,554
And also geraldo?
1412
01:08:46,552 --> 01:08:49,592
After the meeting, we had
a few videos that we're doing
1413
01:08:49,588 --> 01:08:53,818
And to just basically get a good
round--round out the stories.
1414
01:08:53,824 --> 01:08:57,564
Three years later, some senator
says, "I never said that."
1415
01:08:57,561 --> 01:08:59,591
Even if you can't find
it somewhere online,
1416
01:08:59,596 --> 01:09:00,526
I still have it.
1417
01:09:00,530 --> 01:09:02,060
So, I don't get
rid of anything.
1418
01:09:02,064 --> 01:09:03,934
So, we have tons
and tons of things
1419
01:09:03,932 --> 01:09:06,972
That I just have saved of
what everyone has said ever
1420
01:09:06,968 --> 01:09:07,998
That we've ever done.
1421
01:09:08,002 --> 01:09:09,432
There's a lot, yeah.
1422
01:09:09,436 --> 01:09:12,096
I don't envy the guy
who has to cut it all.
1423
01:09:12,105 --> 01:09:14,265
I could toss you
a couple raw videos.
1424
01:09:14,273 --> 01:09:15,573
You can cut those down.
1425
01:09:15,574 --> 01:09:17,344
Yeah, by me,
you mean arthur, right?
1426
01:09:17,342 --> 01:09:18,572
Good luck with that.
1427
01:09:18,576 --> 01:09:20,676
-Okay, thank you.
-All right, man.
1428
01:09:20,678 --> 01:09:24,278
I'm amused at people who claim
that the governments don't lie.
1429
01:09:24,281 --> 01:09:27,021
Really, do you know
human beings that never lie?
1430
01:09:27,017 --> 01:09:29,747
Let alone human beings
who need to cover their ass
1431
01:09:29,753 --> 01:09:31,123
And protect their job?
1432
01:09:31,121 --> 01:09:34,461
Let alone people who need
to do all that in public?
1433
01:09:34,457 --> 01:09:36,717
Of course, they lie!
1434
01:09:36,725 --> 01:09:38,215
Of course they do.
1435
01:09:38,226 --> 01:09:40,826
When is the last time
you heard cnn say
1436
01:09:40,828 --> 01:09:42,728
The pentagon is lying?
1437
01:09:42,729 --> 01:09:46,159
Isn't it amazing that in these
decades of cnn's existence,
1438
01:09:46,165 --> 01:09:47,655
They have never
uttered that sentence.
1439
01:09:47,666 --> 01:09:51,026
So the pentagon has never
lied, according to cnn.
1440
01:09:51,035 --> 01:09:56,465
♪
1441
01:09:56,473 --> 01:09:59,273
Congressman, but overall,
I'm a deficit hawk too.
1442
01:09:59,275 --> 01:10:01,005
I don't want out
of control spending,
1443
01:10:01,010 --> 01:10:02,710
So then I assume
as a deficit hawk,
1444
01:10:02,711 --> 01:10:04,741
You also want to cut
defense spending
1445
01:10:04,746 --> 01:10:07,946
And you want to raise
taxes on the rich, right?
1446
01:10:07,949 --> 01:10:10,419
Well, I think the first
purpose of this government
1447
01:10:10,418 --> 01:10:11,678
Is to defend the nation,
1448
01:10:11,685 --> 01:10:13,245
And if we cut defense
to the extent
1449
01:10:13,253 --> 01:10:14,753
That we're no longer safe,
1450
01:10:14,754 --> 01:10:16,624
Let me suggest to you,
there's nothing that would have
1451
01:10:16,622 --> 01:10:18,122
A more negative impact
on our economy.
1452
01:10:18,123 --> 01:10:19,793
Nineteen percent
of the deficit
1453
01:10:19,791 --> 01:10:22,361
Is defense spending,
1454
01:10:22,360 --> 01:10:23,990
And we've spent
more on defense
1455
01:10:23,994 --> 01:10:26,794
Than the entire rest
of the world combined,
1456
01:10:26,796 --> 01:10:29,826
But you still think we cannot
cut a nickel from there.
1457
01:10:29,832 --> 01:10:33,572
We need every nuke, every sub,
every aircraft carrier,
1458
01:10:33,569 --> 01:10:35,969
Otherwise we're not gonna
be able to out-nuke iran,
1459
01:10:35,971 --> 01:10:37,471
Is that the logic?
1460
01:10:37,472 --> 01:10:39,472
When cenk was first
working at msnbc,
1461
01:10:39,474 --> 01:10:41,114
I just assumed
he was on cloud nine,
1462
01:10:41,108 --> 01:10:43,838
Because he wanted it so bad
and then there was this one week
1463
01:10:43,844 --> 01:10:46,744
Where they flew me
into new york
1464
01:10:46,746 --> 01:10:49,846
And I helped them produce
the television show.
1465
01:10:49,849 --> 01:10:52,219
Right then and there,
I knew it wasn't right for us,
1466
01:10:52,218 --> 01:10:53,618
But I didn't
say anything.
1467
01:10:53,619 --> 01:10:55,349
I just kinda like,
sat back and waited to see
1468
01:10:55,354 --> 01:10:58,524
If cenk was gonna do what
I thought he was gonna do.
1469
01:10:58,523 --> 01:11:01,463
Phil griffin, who's the head of
msnbc, pulls me into his office.
1470
01:11:01,459 --> 01:11:02,759
He sits me down
and he says,
1471
01:11:02,760 --> 01:11:05,760
"cenk, I was just
in washington,
1472
01:11:05,763 --> 01:11:07,933
And they're not happy
with your tone."
1473
01:11:07,931 --> 01:11:11,601
And I sat back in my seat, like,
"oh my god, it's happening."
1474
01:11:11,601 --> 01:11:13,101
Right, this is
like a movie!
1475
01:11:13,102 --> 01:11:14,902
They're--they're
giving me this speech.
1476
01:11:14,903 --> 01:11:18,273
You know, some people
told me that you were dumb.
1477
01:11:18,273 --> 01:11:19,873
I think you're smart.
1478
01:11:19,874 --> 01:11:21,874
In fact, I think you're
smart enough to understand
1479
01:11:21,876 --> 01:11:23,776
A situation when
it's explained to you.
1480
01:11:23,777 --> 01:11:26,937
And he said, "look, I want to
be clear with you about this,
1481
01:11:26,946 --> 01:11:28,446
So just cool it.
1482
01:11:28,447 --> 01:11:29,747
Bring it down
a little bit."
1483
01:11:29,748 --> 01:11:31,448
Now, if I felt
that you had
1484
01:11:31,449 --> 01:11:32,819
The welfare of
the state at heart,
1485
01:11:32,817 --> 01:11:36,677
Like I have, I'd say
you were a man to watch.
1486
01:11:36,686 --> 01:11:38,586
So, they would
say things like,
1487
01:11:38,587 --> 01:11:40,987
"we need you to act
like a senator."
1488
01:11:40,989 --> 01:11:42,289
And I thought, "why?
1489
01:11:42,290 --> 01:11:43,590
Why on good god's
green earth
1490
01:11:43,591 --> 01:11:44,861
Would you want to act
like a senator?"
1491
01:11:44,858 --> 01:11:46,458
Does that mean
I should lie more?
1492
01:11:46,459 --> 01:11:48,259
I should be more fake?
1493
01:11:48,260 --> 01:11:49,860
People don't like senators.
1494
01:11:49,861 --> 01:11:52,291
Congress, at that point,
is at an approval rating
1495
01:11:52,296 --> 01:11:55,026
Floating between
7 and 11 percent.
1496
01:11:55,032 --> 01:11:56,702
They hate senators!
1497
01:11:56,700 --> 01:12:03,740
♪
1498
01:12:03,740 --> 01:12:05,440
They don't have
to tell an anchor
1499
01:12:05,441 --> 01:12:07,411
Coming into the
mainstream media,
1500
01:12:07,409 --> 01:12:08,979
"hey, be pro-government."
1501
01:12:08,977 --> 01:12:11,007
Although with me, I was so
thick-headed they had to.
1502
01:12:11,012 --> 01:12:12,212
Right.
1503
01:12:12,213 --> 01:12:13,683
They just don't
hire that guy,
1504
01:12:13,681 --> 01:12:15,381
And if they make the
mistake of hiring him,
1505
01:12:15,382 --> 01:12:17,082
They demote him
or they fire him,
1506
01:12:17,083 --> 01:12:18,983
And then the message
is clear in the building.
1507
01:12:18,984 --> 01:12:22,654
"shh, we don't criticize
the powers that be.
1508
01:12:22,654 --> 01:12:24,654
We don't criticize
corporations.
1509
01:12:24,656 --> 01:12:26,556
We are a giant
corporation.
1510
01:12:26,557 --> 01:12:28,917
We don't take on
the establishment,
1511
01:12:28,926 --> 01:12:30,456
We are the
establishment."
1512
01:12:30,460 --> 01:12:32,660
And the guys who play
ball get promotions
1513
01:12:32,662 --> 01:12:36,132
And everyone in the building
sees them getting promotions.
1514
01:12:36,132 --> 01:12:38,672
So, it is
an evolutionary process
1515
01:12:38,667 --> 01:12:41,867
By which the mainstream media
gets the product that it wants.
1516
01:12:43,102 --> 01:12:46,402
I think what happened
to cenk uygur at msnbc
1517
01:12:46,406 --> 01:12:47,906
Illuminates the process
1518
01:12:47,907 --> 01:12:51,477
Leading to what
noam chomsky calls,
1519
01:12:51,477 --> 01:12:53,837
"manufacturing consent."
1520
01:12:53,846 --> 01:12:55,976
Corporate news outlets
often end up
1521
01:12:55,981 --> 01:12:59,221
Being more propagandistic
than journalistic.
1522
01:12:59,217 --> 01:13:02,817
Manufactured consent
makes sure that the ignorant
1523
01:13:02,820 --> 01:13:06,450
And meddlesome majority
keeps out of things.
1524
01:13:06,456 --> 01:13:08,886
So, if they want--
1525
01:13:08,891 --> 01:13:11,861
For decades they've wanted
national healthcare,
1526
01:13:11,860 --> 01:13:14,630
But they don't understand,
so keep them out of it.
1527
01:13:14,629 --> 01:13:16,629
They want higher
taxes on the rich,
1528
01:13:16,631 --> 01:13:17,931
Then you know,
put them to the side.
1529
01:13:17,932 --> 01:13:19,362
They don't
understand things.
1530
01:13:19,366 --> 01:13:21,166
They're opposed to wars,
1531
01:13:21,167 --> 01:13:23,367
It's 'cause they don't
understand how important it is
1532
01:13:23,369 --> 01:13:26,369
For us to bomb libya
and whatever it may be.
1533
01:13:26,372 --> 01:13:28,412
It used to be
in earlier times
1534
01:13:28,407 --> 01:13:30,707
That you could use
force to do this,
1535
01:13:30,709 --> 01:13:34,339
But by the early
20th century,
1536
01:13:34,345 --> 01:13:36,345
Countries like England
and the United States,
1537
01:13:36,347 --> 01:13:38,247
The more free societies,
1538
01:13:38,248 --> 01:13:41,848
It was recognized that force
was no longer sufficient,
1539
01:13:41,851 --> 01:13:44,921
So you had to turn the control
of attitudes and opinions.
1540
01:13:44,920 --> 01:13:46,720
It's quite conscious
incidentally.
1541
01:13:46,721 --> 01:13:48,521
I think manufacturing consent
1542
01:13:48,522 --> 01:13:50,122
Is essentially
the rosetta stone
1543
01:13:50,123 --> 01:13:52,793
For understanding the
hieroglyphics of the us media.
1544
01:13:54,759 --> 01:13:57,059
It is the case
that if you go
1545
01:13:57,062 --> 01:14:00,432
To most media figures
1546
01:14:00,432 --> 01:14:03,632
And/or to media corporations and
tell them that they're really--
1547
01:14:03,635 --> 01:14:05,695
Constrain them of things
they can and can't say,
1548
01:14:05,703 --> 01:14:07,303
And not only
will they deny it,
1549
01:14:07,304 --> 01:14:10,614
But they'll essentially
be truthful in their denial,
1550
01:14:10,607 --> 01:14:12,207
In the sense that
they believe that denial,
1551
01:14:12,208 --> 01:14:14,808
Because they don't have someone
standing over their shoulder
1552
01:14:14,810 --> 01:14:16,880
Deleting words
that they write
1553
01:14:16,878 --> 01:14:19,108
Or compelling them to say things
they don't want to say,
1554
01:14:19,113 --> 01:14:21,983
But the entire system
breeds a certain orthodox.
1555
01:14:21,982 --> 01:14:25,082
It breeds a certain
kind of range of pieties
1556
01:14:25,085 --> 01:14:28,645
And if you deviate too far
from them, it will reject you.
1557
01:14:29,720 --> 01:14:32,020
So, yes, you're perfectly free
1558
01:14:32,023 --> 01:14:33,423
Once you accept the--
1559
01:14:33,424 --> 01:14:35,894
You internally
accept the principles
1560
01:14:35,893 --> 01:14:38,893
And you feel under
no pressure in censorship.
1561
01:14:38,896 --> 01:14:40,626
You can say
anything you want
1562
01:14:40,631 --> 01:14:43,531
As long as you accept
the concept of objectivity.
1563
01:14:45,100 --> 01:14:47,300
Ninety-nine percent of the
people who work in the business
1564
01:14:47,303 --> 01:14:50,843
Just think they're doing their
jobs and they don't realize
1565
01:14:50,839 --> 01:14:55,339
That they're creating
this kinda endless,
1566
01:14:55,342 --> 01:14:57,182
You know,
minefield of stupidity
1567
01:14:57,177 --> 01:14:59,777
That it's gonna be impossible
for us to all breach
1568
01:14:59,779 --> 01:15:01,749
When the time
comes, you know.
1569
01:15:01,747 --> 01:15:06,577
Those reporters who
care more about truth
1570
01:15:06,584 --> 01:15:09,824
Will eventually become
management problems,
1571
01:15:09,820 --> 01:15:12,350
And the ones who
can read power,
1572
01:15:12,355 --> 01:15:14,585
In essence,
function as courtiers,
1573
01:15:14,590 --> 01:15:18,020
Know how to
play the game.
1574
01:15:18,026 --> 01:15:21,586
The veneer of
objectivity, neutrality,
1575
01:15:21,596 --> 01:15:25,156
Impartiality,
truth, and yet,
1576
01:15:25,165 --> 01:15:27,965
Assiduously serve,
1577
01:15:27,967 --> 01:15:30,927
In essence, power,
1578
01:15:30,936 --> 01:15:34,166
Are the ones who rise
within the institution,
1579
01:15:34,172 --> 01:15:39,112
And that's why if you
look at the top management
1580
01:15:39,110 --> 01:15:41,910
Of even institutions
like the new york times,
1581
01:15:41,912 --> 01:15:44,912
They're filled with such
incredible mediocrities.
1582
01:15:45,980 --> 01:15:48,150
They can do exactly
what they want,
1583
01:15:48,149 --> 01:15:50,779
But they wouldn't
be in that position
1584
01:15:50,784 --> 01:15:53,784
Unless they already
accepted the framework.
1585
01:15:54,786 --> 01:15:56,786
I.F. Stone is
a perfect example.
1586
01:15:56,789 --> 01:15:59,759
He's a terrific reporter,
maybe one of the best,
1587
01:15:59,758 --> 01:16:02,858
But he didn't accept the rules,
so he was out of the system.
1588
01:16:02,861 --> 01:16:05,161
Same with innumerable others.
1589
01:16:05,163 --> 01:16:10,073
Jeremy scahill, glenn greenwald,
amy goodman, even matt taibbi.
1590
01:16:10,067 --> 01:16:15,667
♪
1591
01:16:27,348 --> 01:16:31,018
From my reporting,
these are all
1592
01:16:31,020 --> 01:16:32,990
The autopsies
that were ordered.
1593
01:16:32,988 --> 01:16:36,088
Is this a scientific
autopsy report from--
1594
01:16:36,091 --> 01:16:37,821
You're laughing.
1595
01:16:37,826 --> 01:16:42,556
This doesn't look like a report
that my students would do.
1596
01:16:42,563 --> 01:16:44,833
The report doesn't
look like a--
1597
01:16:44,831 --> 01:16:46,801
That even your
students would do, okay.
1598
01:16:46,799 --> 01:16:48,059
You know,
I'm sort of getting at,
1599
01:16:48,066 --> 01:16:49,526
Whether or not there
was some sort of a scam
1600
01:16:49,534 --> 01:16:50,704
With the autopsies.
1601
01:16:50,701 --> 01:16:52,501
All these reports
are missing.
1602
01:16:52,502 --> 01:16:54,772
Oh, those are the
missing ones, oh, okay.
1603
01:16:54,770 --> 01:16:56,970
So, over 30% of the
autopsies ordered.
1604
01:16:56,972 --> 01:16:58,542
You don't even have
a lab report for.
1605
01:16:58,540 --> 01:17:01,170
We don't even know if
they were ever performed.
1606
01:17:01,175 --> 01:17:02,005
They were billed.
1607
01:17:02,009 --> 01:17:03,379
I have the cancelled checks.
1608
01:17:03,377 --> 01:17:04,937
Oh.
1609
01:17:04,945 --> 01:17:06,775
I just don't have if
the autopsy was performed,
1610
01:17:06,780 --> 01:17:08,010
What they found.
1611
01:17:20,424 --> 01:17:23,594
You get appointed to the board
of one of these commissions,
1612
01:17:23,594 --> 01:17:26,394
Essentially in texas, by being
a large campaign contributor.
1613
01:17:26,396 --> 01:17:29,956
This is all an exposé
of this mass grave.
1614
01:17:30,965 --> 01:17:34,425
Make these people
own this shit.
1615
01:17:34,435 --> 01:17:35,895
Make 'em own it,
1616
01:17:35,903 --> 01:17:38,403
Because this is what
is existing in this state
1617
01:17:38,405 --> 01:17:41,005
And it's those people
over at the capital,
1618
01:17:41,007 --> 01:17:43,437
But it's also people who just
go about their daily lives
1619
01:17:43,442 --> 01:17:44,542
And let it happen.
1620
01:17:44,543 --> 01:17:57,193
♪
1621
01:17:57,188 --> 01:17:59,788
He had to answer questions
for weeks about this.
1622
01:17:59,790 --> 01:18:02,320
He also was pulled in
by some high ranking
1623
01:18:02,325 --> 01:18:05,785
Local officials in the state and
asked very similar questions,
1624
01:18:05,795 --> 01:18:07,185
So he's had time to prep.
1625
01:18:07,196 --> 01:18:10,196
Basically, what happened
is nueces county
1626
01:18:10,199 --> 01:18:13,199
Was providing autopsy
services for brooks county,
1627
01:18:13,202 --> 01:18:17,202
And they were overwhelmed
with nueces county alone.
1628
01:18:17,206 --> 01:18:19,066
Course I wasn't around when
all of this was being done,
1629
01:18:19,074 --> 01:18:21,774
You know, we kind of picked
up after the fact, you know.
1630
01:18:21,776 --> 01:18:23,736
Some of them were done
1631
01:18:23,744 --> 01:18:25,844
During the time of
your tenure here too.
1632
01:18:25,846 --> 01:18:27,676
Some of them
were after 2007.
1633
01:18:27,681 --> 01:18:28,681
Oh, yeah, yeah.
1634
01:18:28,682 --> 01:18:30,112
So, I'm just wondering
1635
01:18:30,116 --> 01:18:31,876
Is that the mortuary
who's dumping bodies?
1636
01:18:31,884 --> 01:18:33,284
Actually, well, we had--
1637
01:18:33,285 --> 01:18:35,075
In other words,
who monitors the mortuary?
1638
01:18:35,086 --> 01:18:36,946
They're an independent
contractor,
1639
01:18:36,954 --> 01:18:38,154
So in other words,
1640
01:18:38,155 --> 01:18:40,485
You contract
somebody to do it,
1641
01:18:40,490 --> 01:18:42,960
You pay 'em 750 bucks
and they go do the job.
1642
01:18:42,959 --> 01:18:44,489
All we know is
we're gonna pay
1643
01:18:44,493 --> 01:18:47,333
For four--
$500, $500, $500--
1644
01:18:47,329 --> 01:18:48,359
And it's gonna say,
1645
01:18:48,363 --> 01:18:49,963
"one was eddie canalis,
he was identified.
1646
01:18:49,964 --> 01:18:51,664
This gentlemen
was john doe.
1647
01:18:51,665 --> 01:18:53,395
The other one was
another john doe."
1648
01:18:53,400 --> 01:18:55,700
In a case where
I was not comfortable
1649
01:18:55,702 --> 01:18:58,172
With cause of
death, dna and--
1650
01:18:58,171 --> 01:19:00,941
That's the criteria where
you saw something suspicious.
1651
01:19:00,940 --> 01:19:02,610
What if you found just bones
or a skull or something?
1652
01:19:02,608 --> 01:19:04,468
It's--it's difficult.
You can't do that.
1653
01:19:04,476 --> 01:19:05,836
It would be
a waste of time.
1654
01:19:05,844 --> 01:19:07,244
You would not
order an autopsy
1655
01:19:07,245 --> 01:19:08,905
If it was just
a skull or bones.
1656
01:19:08,913 --> 01:19:10,983
Once the sun,
108, 107 degrees--
1657
01:19:10,981 --> 01:19:13,351
So, a sun bleached skull
or something, no?
1658
01:19:13,350 --> 01:19:14,780
No, no, they wouldn't.
1659
01:19:16,317 --> 01:19:17,477
You don't have a problem
1660
01:19:17,485 --> 01:19:19,375
Until somebody makes
a problem out of it.
1661
01:19:19,386 --> 01:19:20,846
♪
1662
01:19:20,854 --> 01:19:23,154
The documents I have
and the evidence I have,
1663
01:19:23,156 --> 01:19:25,016
I asked him directly
about those things
1664
01:19:25,024 --> 01:19:26,364
And he lied
through his teeth
1665
01:19:26,358 --> 01:19:28,318
Through every
single one of them.
1666
01:19:28,326 --> 01:19:30,826
So, the way the bodies
were buried, the mortuaries,
1667
01:19:30,828 --> 01:19:33,758
The contracts,
everything, he's just--
1668
01:19:33,764 --> 01:19:35,364
Just bullshitting
me the whole way.
1669
01:19:35,365 --> 01:19:36,925
♪
1670
01:19:36,933 --> 01:19:38,733
In my investigation
prior to speaking to him,
1671
01:19:38,734 --> 01:19:41,104
I have found nothing but
discrepancies in the paperwork
1672
01:19:41,103 --> 01:19:44,073
And the documents in the
way that records were kept,
1673
01:19:44,072 --> 01:19:46,472
And he basically,
without knowing he did,
1674
01:19:46,474 --> 01:19:48,274
Admitted it all to me,
1675
01:19:48,275 --> 01:19:51,475
And I'm actually just shaking
a little bit from it.
1676
01:19:51,478 --> 01:20:05,288
♪
1677
01:20:05,291 --> 01:20:07,861
The only way I'm able to
do the investigative work
1678
01:20:07,860 --> 01:20:10,130
Before we even bring it
to a broadcast outlet,
1679
01:20:10,128 --> 01:20:11,928
Before we bring it to
the mainstream media,
1680
01:20:11,929 --> 01:20:13,859
Is because I actually
get paid every month
1681
01:20:13,864 --> 01:20:15,034
By the nation institute.
1682
01:20:15,031 --> 01:20:16,831
I have a monthly stipend,
1683
01:20:16,832 --> 01:20:18,672
An investigative
stipend that allows me
1684
01:20:18,667 --> 01:20:20,227
To put all these
pieces together
1685
01:20:20,235 --> 01:20:22,095
And I can spend
months on a story.
1686
01:20:22,103 --> 01:20:23,873
I can spend
a year on a story
1687
01:20:23,871 --> 01:20:26,141
Before I even bring it
to a broadcast outlet.
1688
01:20:27,372 --> 01:20:29,012
If the medical examiner
1689
01:20:29,007 --> 01:20:32,907
Or the forensic person in
brooks county examined bones,
1690
01:20:32,910 --> 01:20:36,240
He charged one
flat fee, $1500,
1691
01:20:36,246 --> 01:20:38,076
And there were
many bones examined.
1692
01:20:38,081 --> 01:20:40,851
They might as well have been an
eight-year-old who wrote them.
1693
01:20:40,850 --> 01:20:42,450
"I saw a man
lying on the ground,
1694
01:20:42,451 --> 01:20:43,781
His bones were scattered.
1695
01:20:43,785 --> 01:20:46,345
They looked okay to me,"
is basically a report.
1696
01:20:46,354 --> 01:20:48,124
Fifteen hundred bucks.
1697
01:20:48,122 --> 01:20:52,792
He was judge for eight
years from 2007 to 2014.
1698
01:20:54,359 --> 01:20:56,159
That's when all the
bodies were buried.
1699
01:20:56,161 --> 01:20:59,131
We--we know that brooks county
is under-resourced
1700
01:20:59,130 --> 01:21:02,160
And their record
keeping isn't great,
1701
01:21:02,166 --> 01:21:05,166
And so let's just take that
at face value for now.
1702
01:21:05,169 --> 01:21:06,769
I don't think
it's so much that.
1703
01:21:06,770 --> 01:21:08,240
I think there's
something going on here.
1704
01:21:08,238 --> 01:21:09,338
Obviously.
1705
01:21:09,339 --> 01:21:11,239
♪
1706
01:21:11,240 --> 01:21:15,080
I think about I.F. Stone a lot
and I think about his phrase,
1707
01:21:15,077 --> 01:21:16,707
"all governments lie."
1708
01:21:16,711 --> 01:21:18,441
And I also think
about the fact
1709
01:21:18,446 --> 01:21:20,546
That most of his
reporting was done
1710
01:21:20,548 --> 01:21:23,018
Putting his face in
a stack of documents.
1711
01:21:23,916 --> 01:21:25,346
It wasn't flashy.
1712
01:21:25,351 --> 01:21:28,891
He found the fact
that governments lie
1713
01:21:28,887 --> 01:21:32,047
Basically by what
governments do.
1714
01:21:32,056 --> 01:21:33,986
They're bad at
covering up their lies.
1715
01:21:33,991 --> 01:21:35,361
I can take you
to where I work
1716
01:21:35,359 --> 01:21:37,059
And I can show you
stack after stack
1717
01:21:37,060 --> 01:21:38,460
After stack
of documents
1718
01:21:38,461 --> 01:21:41,031
And I find, in our own
government documents,
1719
01:21:41,030 --> 01:21:42,730
Nothing but lies.
1720
01:21:42,731 --> 01:21:45,101
Nothing but
misrepresentation.
1721
01:21:45,100 --> 01:21:47,770
Nothing but
covering up the truth.
1722
01:21:47,769 --> 01:21:49,599
And governments
do lie frequently,
1723
01:21:49,604 --> 01:21:52,444
And it's my job to
find out when they lie.
1724
01:21:52,440 --> 01:22:02,550
♪
1725
01:22:02,550 --> 01:22:15,560
♪
1726
01:22:15,562 --> 01:22:17,902
If you don't step back and
look at the bigger picture,
1727
01:22:17,897 --> 01:22:21,757
Fundamentally, the empire
is not afraid of anyone really
1728
01:22:21,766 --> 01:22:23,396
That's running for office.
1729
01:22:23,400 --> 01:22:26,330
Whether it's the democrat
or the republican that wins,
1730
01:22:26,336 --> 01:22:29,336
The core institutions
of that necessitate
1731
01:22:29,339 --> 01:22:33,369
A brutal military force that
backs up the sort of, you know,
1732
01:22:33,375 --> 01:22:35,635
Velvet-gloved hand
of the free market
1733
01:22:35,643 --> 01:22:40,083
Is a given with every single
person that runs for office
1734
01:22:40,079 --> 01:22:42,279
Or can get the nomination
of those parties.
1735
01:22:42,281 --> 01:22:44,151
So, you know, even if
you have someone that,
1736
01:22:44,149 --> 01:22:46,719
In the general election,
is perceived to be,
1737
01:22:46,718 --> 01:22:48,478
You know, crazy.
1738
01:22:48,486 --> 01:22:51,116
Once they sort of start
getting those briefings
1739
01:22:51,121 --> 01:22:52,721
From the permanent
power structure,
1740
01:22:52,722 --> 01:22:53,892
The intelligence community,
1741
01:22:53,889 --> 01:22:55,389
They all step into line.
1742
01:23:11,471 --> 01:23:15,341
♪
1743
01:23:15,341 --> 01:23:16,811
Well,
in journalism school,
1744
01:23:16,809 --> 01:23:18,679
You're taught
to be objective,
1745
01:23:18,677 --> 01:23:20,337
And objective means
1746
01:23:20,345 --> 01:23:25,305
Report accurately what's
going on within the beltway.
1747
01:23:25,316 --> 01:23:28,316
So, inside the
system of power.
1748
01:23:28,319 --> 01:23:32,019
If you report that
accurately, you're objective.
1749
01:23:32,022 --> 01:23:35,292
If you go outside that,
you're biased.
1750
01:23:35,291 --> 01:23:37,461
Well, plenty
of things outside
1751
01:23:37,459 --> 01:23:40,789
That this is a narrow
concentrated power system.
1752
01:23:40,795 --> 01:23:43,455
One of my favorite lines
from any film
1753
01:23:43,464 --> 01:23:47,404
Is from the film
"the usual suspects."
1754
01:23:47,401 --> 01:23:50,201
You know, kevin spacey,
amazing as kaiser soze,
1755
01:23:50,203 --> 01:23:52,443
But at the end of
the film, he says,
1756
01:23:52,438 --> 01:23:54,168
"the greatest trick
the devil ever pulled..."
1757
01:23:54,173 --> 01:23:57,943
The greatest trick
the devil ever pulled
1758
01:23:57,943 --> 01:24:00,213
Was convincing the world
he didn't exist.
1759
01:24:00,211 --> 01:24:02,541
"...Was convincing the
world he didn't exist."
1760
01:24:02,546 --> 01:24:04,546
You know, you've got
crazy people thinking
1761
01:24:04,548 --> 01:24:06,148
That the department
of homeland security's
1762
01:24:06,149 --> 01:24:08,049
Gonna put them in
a fema camp somewhere.
1763
01:24:08,050 --> 01:24:09,380
You have other
people thinking
1764
01:24:09,384 --> 01:24:10,924
That obama's gonna come
and take their guns.
1765
01:24:10,918 --> 01:24:12,278
That's all a sideshow.
1766
01:24:12,286 --> 01:24:13,986
That's all a total sideshow.
1767
01:24:13,987 --> 01:24:15,387
The coup already happened
1768
01:24:15,388 --> 01:24:17,388
And the most brilliant
part about it is
1769
01:24:17,390 --> 01:24:19,460
None of these people
seem to realize it.
1770
01:24:19,458 --> 01:24:33,498
♪
1771
01:24:33,505 --> 01:24:36,805
I can draw a line
from I.F. Stone
1772
01:24:36,808 --> 01:24:38,438
Directly to what
I'm doing now.
1773
01:24:38,442 --> 01:24:40,442
It makes me sad to
think that actually,
1774
01:24:40,444 --> 01:24:44,614
He isn't with us and it
makes me really hope that--
1775
01:24:44,613 --> 01:24:47,213
That the next I.F. Stone
or two or three or four
1776
01:24:47,215 --> 01:24:49,475
Or 400 are out there now,
1777
01:24:49,484 --> 01:24:51,254
Who might be watching this
right now, and thinking,
1778
01:24:51,252 --> 01:24:52,282
"you know, I can do this."
1779
01:24:52,286 --> 01:24:53,646
Because you can do it.
1780
01:24:53,654 --> 01:24:54,794
You know, you can do it.
1781
01:24:54,788 --> 01:24:56,818
Especially if you--
again, do the work.
1782
01:24:56,823 --> 01:25:01,023
Do the hard work, but realize
that sometimes the best stuff
1783
01:25:01,026 --> 01:25:02,426
Is right there
in front of your nose,
1784
01:25:02,427 --> 01:25:04,187
And you don't even know it.
1785
01:25:04,694 --> 01:25:19,114
♪
1786
01:25:19,109 --> 01:25:21,809
I've actually written
a book you might like better.
1787
01:25:23,110 --> 01:25:25,340
It's nice to meet you.
1788
01:25:25,346 --> 01:25:28,176
Funding is the key to great
investigative reporting.
1789
01:25:28,182 --> 01:25:30,282
That doesn't really
have a time frame.
1790
01:25:30,284 --> 01:25:33,024
It may take you months
to get a document
1791
01:25:33,020 --> 01:25:35,650
That may take you in many
different directions and so,
1792
01:25:35,655 --> 01:25:39,515
For me, time is--is equal
to the amount of funding,
1793
01:25:39,525 --> 01:25:41,155
And funding is equal
to the amount of time
1794
01:25:41,159 --> 01:25:42,689
That I can spend
on something.
1795
01:25:42,693 --> 01:25:44,393
I'm working on
a project right now
1796
01:25:44,394 --> 01:25:45,734
That I've been working
on for the past year
1797
01:25:45,728 --> 01:25:47,228
And I probably will
take another year
1798
01:25:47,229 --> 01:25:48,559
Before it's actually broadcast.
1799
01:25:48,563 --> 01:25:51,363
If I were working
for corporate media,
1800
01:25:51,365 --> 01:25:52,695
This story would never air.
1801
01:25:52,699 --> 01:25:54,699
It just--I'd never
have that luxury
1802
01:25:54,701 --> 01:25:57,201
Of being able to develop
a story for that length of time.
1803
01:25:57,203 --> 01:25:59,773
As independent journalists,
I was wondering,
1804
01:25:59,772 --> 01:26:02,772
What do you guys think
the implications are
1805
01:26:02,775 --> 01:26:05,005
Of our news media
being reduced
1806
01:26:05,010 --> 01:26:07,510
To 140-character
sound bites?
1807
01:26:07,512 --> 01:26:11,512
Twitter can play an incredible
role if used properly
1808
01:26:11,515 --> 01:26:15,345
By journalists
in debunking myths
1809
01:26:15,351 --> 01:26:16,621
Or misinformation.
1810
01:26:16,618 --> 01:26:18,378
The flip side
is also true,
1811
01:26:18,386 --> 01:26:20,316
Which is that it can
spread misinformation
1812
01:26:20,321 --> 01:26:22,691
Very, very quickly.
1813
01:26:22,690 --> 01:26:25,660
I--I think that the future
is taking so much
1814
01:26:25,659 --> 01:26:28,189
Of what's amazing
about the creativity
1815
01:26:28,194 --> 01:26:29,894
And innovation
of young people
1816
01:26:29,895 --> 01:26:32,995
Who are dipping their toes
into the water of journalism
1817
01:26:32,998 --> 01:26:36,068
And the ideas that they have,
and the lack of cynicism,
1818
01:26:36,067 --> 01:26:40,937
And we try to meld that with
old school muckraking techniques
1819
01:26:40,938 --> 01:26:42,668
And slow cooked journalism.
1820
01:26:42,673 --> 01:26:46,443
Whoever figures out how to
really web those two things
1821
01:26:46,443 --> 01:26:49,543
Is gonna create something very
special in the media landscape.
1822
01:26:49,546 --> 01:26:52,246
Almost my entire life
as a journalist
1823
01:26:52,248 --> 01:26:55,148
Has been spent
in poverty media.
1824
01:26:55,150 --> 01:26:57,220
You know, media outlets
that have no money,
1825
01:26:57,218 --> 01:26:58,718
And we are
professional beggars,
1826
01:26:58,719 --> 01:27:01,389
And begging can
sometimes come in the form
1827
01:27:01,388 --> 01:27:05,818
Of asking for funds
from--from a foundation
1828
01:27:05,825 --> 01:27:09,125
Or it can come in the form
of writing a letter
1829
01:27:09,128 --> 01:27:10,588
To your family
and friends, saying,
1830
01:27:10,596 --> 01:27:12,926
"I really want to go
to iraq to be a reporter.
1831
01:27:12,931 --> 01:27:14,661
Can you kick in
25 or 50 bucks?"
1832
01:27:14,666 --> 01:27:16,126
And that's actually
how I financed
1833
01:27:16,134 --> 01:27:17,774
The first time
I ever went to iraq,
1834
01:27:17,768 --> 01:27:20,028
Was begging my extended
family to pitch in
1835
01:27:20,036 --> 01:27:22,066
At $25 and $50.
1836
01:27:22,071 --> 01:27:23,441
He's come a long way
1837
01:27:23,439 --> 01:27:26,209
Since he was pretty much
the original volunteer
1838
01:27:26,208 --> 01:27:27,308
At democracy now!
1839
01:27:27,309 --> 01:27:28,679
Jeremy scahill.
1840
01:27:32,579 --> 01:27:35,779
The fact that I--I now have
received this designation
1841
01:27:35,783 --> 01:27:37,423
Is a tremendous honor,
1842
01:27:37,417 --> 01:27:41,087
And I want to pledge
to use this opportunity
1843
01:27:41,087 --> 01:27:45,457
To educate a new generation
of young journalists
1844
01:27:45,457 --> 01:27:49,027
About the incredibly
important work of I.F. Stone
1845
01:27:49,027 --> 01:27:51,757
And the legacy that
he has left all of us
1846
01:27:51,763 --> 01:27:54,763
And the challenge
that he has left us all
1847
01:27:54,766 --> 01:27:59,096
In a very dark time
to simply be journalists.
1848
01:27:59,103 --> 01:28:01,703
This isn't a career,
this isn't a profession.
1849
01:28:01,705 --> 01:28:03,595
Journalism is
a way of life.
1850
01:28:03,606 --> 01:28:05,466
♪
1851
01:28:05,474 --> 01:28:08,374
My hope is that we somehow
miraculously produce
1852
01:28:08,376 --> 01:28:11,906
A generation of
young I.F. Stones.
1853
01:28:11,912 --> 01:28:14,452
We need to stop keeping
up with the kardashians
1854
01:28:14,447 --> 01:28:17,947
And start going back and
catching up on I.F. Stone.
1855
01:28:17,950 --> 01:28:19,650
Thank you very much.
1856
01:28:19,651 --> 01:28:21,521
♪
1857
01:28:21,519 --> 01:28:25,489
I think he's really
an inspiration in the role
1858
01:28:25,489 --> 01:28:27,419
That media can play
in the world.
1859
01:28:27,424 --> 01:28:29,864
I think the media can
be the greatest force
1860
01:28:29,859 --> 01:28:31,589
For peace on earth.
1861
01:28:31,594 --> 01:28:34,764
Instead it's wielded
as a weapon of war,
1862
01:28:34,763 --> 01:28:36,763
And that has
to be challenged.
1863
01:28:37,831 --> 01:28:40,531
I.F. Stone taught us
governments lie,
1864
01:28:40,534 --> 01:28:45,044
All governments lie,
especially in a time of war.
1865
01:28:45,038 --> 01:28:48,808
When the media acts as
a conveyor belt for the lies,
1866
01:28:48,808 --> 01:28:52,438
Why it matters is
because lies take lives
1867
01:28:52,444 --> 01:28:56,554
And we see
the enormous devastation
1868
01:28:56,547 --> 01:28:57,647
That came from that
1869
01:28:57,648 --> 01:28:59,808
That we still
live with today
1870
01:28:59,816 --> 01:29:01,916
So many years later.
1871
01:29:01,918 --> 01:29:05,848
That came from a media that
did not challenge the lies.
1872
01:29:05,854 --> 01:29:07,324
♪
1873
01:29:07,322 --> 01:29:08,852
Just because
you're a journalist
1874
01:29:08,856 --> 01:29:10,916
Doesn't mean you check
your humanity at the door.
1875
01:29:10,924 --> 01:29:13,064
This is--you don't
somehow get some pass
1876
01:29:13,059 --> 01:29:14,659
To not care about people.
1877
01:29:14,660 --> 01:29:17,530
Sometimes there is only
one way of seeing a story,
1878
01:29:17,529 --> 01:29:19,259
And sometimes the
truth is just true.
1879
01:29:19,264 --> 01:29:26,844
♪
1880
01:29:26,837 --> 01:29:28,837
There's only two
types of reporters.
1881
01:29:29,638 --> 01:29:31,908
There's those who care,
1882
01:29:31,907 --> 01:29:33,837
And those who don't.
1883
01:29:33,842 --> 01:29:37,642
Most of 'em don't care,
but if you care,
1884
01:29:37,645 --> 01:29:40,545
If you are as I was
in el salvador,
1885
01:29:40,547 --> 01:29:43,647
Or gaza or sarajevo,
1886
01:29:43,650 --> 01:29:47,580
Then you are immediately
branded as political,
1887
01:29:47,586 --> 01:29:49,646
Because if you care,
1888
01:29:49,654 --> 01:29:53,964
You can't lie to
cover up oppression,
1889
01:29:53,957 --> 01:29:56,457
Atrocity, genocide.
1890
01:29:58,460 --> 01:30:01,530
And I.F. Stone cared.
1891
01:30:06,700 --> 01:30:09,270
The vietnam war has
been a terrible defeat
1892
01:30:09,270 --> 01:30:11,040
For all the brand
names we believe in.
1893
01:30:11,038 --> 01:30:14,708
For general electric and
general motors and at&t.
1894
01:30:14,708 --> 01:30:16,238
For all the great
corporations,
1895
01:30:16,242 --> 01:30:18,742
All the great industry
that do the push buttons,
1896
01:30:18,744 --> 01:30:20,414
And when they--
when they turn to war,
1897
01:30:20,412 --> 01:30:22,682
They know how to
kill people en masse.
1898
01:30:22,680 --> 01:30:24,410
And here, down
in the jungle,
1899
01:30:24,415 --> 01:30:26,615
Way below is this
strange creature
1900
01:30:26,617 --> 01:30:28,617
That we can't crush.
1901
01:30:28,619 --> 01:30:32,619
This strange animal
we can't kill.
1902
01:30:32,623 --> 01:30:36,463
It's time to look closely
at it and see, by god,
1903
01:30:36,460 --> 01:30:39,060
It's a human being,
and isn't that wonderful
1904
01:30:39,062 --> 01:30:41,562
That human beings can resist
1905
01:30:41,564 --> 01:30:44,104
All this murderous
technology of ours?
1906
01:30:48,734 --> 01:31:01,184
♪
1907
01:31:01,180 --> 01:31:04,650
Very briefly and in no small
measure to remind ourselves,
1908
01:31:04,650 --> 01:31:06,120
An observation by stone
1909
01:31:06,118 --> 01:31:08,618
And what he thought
journalism was all about.
1910
01:31:08,620 --> 01:31:10,590
In his words,
to write the truth,
1911
01:31:10,588 --> 01:31:12,118
To defend the weak
against the strong,
1912
01:31:12,122 --> 01:31:15,262
To fight for justice,
to bring healing perspectives
1913
01:31:15,258 --> 01:31:19,058
To bear on the terrible
hates and fears of mankind
1914
01:31:19,061 --> 01:31:20,991
In the hope of someday
bringing about a world
1915
01:31:20,996 --> 01:31:24,896
In which man will enjoy the
differences of the human garden
1916
01:31:24,899 --> 01:31:27,729
Instead of killing
each other over them.
1917
01:31:27,735 --> 01:31:29,325
If you look
you'll find much more.
1918
01:31:29,336 --> 01:31:39,436
♪
1919
01:31:39,446 --> 01:32:29,026
♪
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