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Porn now is a lot more mainstream.
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- Fuck, yeah.
- Yes, yes, yes!
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It's allowed me to
live a really great life.
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- Bam!
- We're performers.
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Just like The Rock and Vin
Diesel are action performers.
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She was beautiful, her scenes
were hot, and she was a party girl.
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The stigma against porn is
kind of what drew me to porn.
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The time in which you
might be stigmatized-
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- by casting someone from the
adult film industry I think is just gone.
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Now you have to bring so much
more to be so much less of a name.
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He was the perfect porn-star.
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There was just
something very innocent-
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- about us getting naked
and having sex on camera.
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That's why I attribute my longevity
to just a lot of classical movies-
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- from the golden era,
and also a lot of mainstream.
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We realize people have
no idea that these are real-
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- flesh and blood
people that're working.
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It's porn.
You're in it. That's it.
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Adult film stars are just that, Stars.
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Most people can name one porn-star,
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- and everybody's seen
'em in action at least once,
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- and more than that
if they're being honest.
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That makes adult film stars
celebrities. Take it from me.
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I'm Mr. Skin and I filled
my own internet empire-
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- by sharing naked celebrities
with the world at large.
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And tonight we're gonna meet some of
the greatest adult film stars of all time.
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Now, what makes
them the greatest?
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Is it their looks, their sexual prowess,
their longevity in the industry,
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- their ability to cross
over to the mainstream?
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Or is it a combination
of all of these things?
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Well, everyone on this list
checks many of those boxes-
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- as we salute the most
famous, most fascinating...
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...and all around hottest
adult film stars in history.
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Let's kick it off with some of the
most popular porn-stars of all time.
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When fans name their
favorite adult performers...
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...these names come right off
the tips of everyone's tongues.
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It's a hall of fame hotter than
anything in plain old Hollywood.
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Fuck me.
Yeah. Yeah.
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Tori was a very strong performer
that really kind of blew up very quickly-
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- and became one of those girls who
that year, those two years won everything.
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I know that Tori has won the Back to
Back Female Performer of the Year awards.
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She's kinky and gorgeous.
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You can't get any better than that.
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One of the best natural
bodies in the business.
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Um, and when she's
on sexually, wow.
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Growing up and
being really boyish,
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- I never really imagined
that I would be a model at all.
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Any type of model,
let alone this type.
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This industry really gave me
a chance to be my deviant self.
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Curb your tongue, funny man.
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She was very good,
uh, in front of the camera.
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Like she has that kind
of mainstream believability.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Oh.
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When I appeared on "Ray Donovan,"
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- um, when I came to set, and
everybody was very welcoming-
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- and very warm and
curious about the industry.
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Ooh.
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Ricky?
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Camera down.
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- Hey!
- Ugh!
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I really feel like women's sexuality
has been lost in the dark ages,
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- and I feel like it's
really starting to evolve.
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I want to leave behind that
empowering feeling for women.
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I want women to know
that it's okay to be sexual.
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I want women to know
that you can be classy-
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- and graceful and elegant and
smart and sophisticated, and a freak.
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Like you don't have
to leave that off the list-
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- in order to be the other things.
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If you have all those things and
you're a freak, you are unstoppable.
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I think Christy is a superstar.
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I don't think there's any question. I think
Christy's a big star for a lot of reasons.
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- First of all...
- She had massive tits.
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And that always helps.
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And they were natural.
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Natural massive tits.
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And that helps ever more.
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How I became a
star in this business-
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- is beyond me,
but when I look back,
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- you had to like me 'cause there were
only four of us to choose from. I was like,
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- the big titted girl next door.
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She was genuinely a very
stunning, beautiful woman,
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- so I don't think it was solely just
'cause there was only a few of them.
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You know, that first time was with Ron
Jeremy, I mean, and it was so porno-y.
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She knew how to
talk dirty during sex.
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She just sort of knew
what was on your mind.
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- Do you wanna fuck me?
- Oh, yeah.
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Do you wanna stick
your cock in my pussy?
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She was a good comedienne.
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She doesn't take
herself too seriously.
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You get your makeup done,
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- you suck a dick,
you'd have a catered lunch.
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So if it was my choice, she probably would've
been my number one pick back in the day.
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She had it all.
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I'm Christy Canyon.
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Back in, back in the day,
goddammit, that meant something.
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It was like the perfect storm.
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She could act,
she wanted to do it,
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- her scenes were good,
she had giant boobs.
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I just always like morphed into
something else in this business.
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I mean, from making films to dancing
to writing my book to radio for ten years,
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- I just showed up, did my job,
had great sex and got my $200-
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- and felt like I owned the world.
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I started doing adult films in 1999.
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You know, in the beginning,
she kind of looked like-
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- a Vietnamese war
vet without makeup.
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You put makeup on her
and she had a soft body-
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- and all natural
and gorgeous boobs.
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Because for so long we really
only exploited the sexuality-
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- of people that had
fake boobs and blonde hair.
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I feel like Tera Patrick was like
just a magnificent supermodel.
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She came off very confident,
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- and like her body and her
gorgeousness matched it.
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You know, we never really stayed in the
adult bubble when we were marketing her.
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We thought we can get
her out there to everybody.
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This girl is somebody that everybody
will love, and everybody did.
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She was on the cover of
"FHM" and the cover of "Maxim"-
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- and all the men's magazines.
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When I started independently,
I did a lot of gonzo movies,
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- and I remember fans always saying,
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- oh my gosh, why are
you doing Gonzo movies?
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You should be doing
these like big features.
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And I was like,
are you kidding me?
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I just wanna go and have sex.
It really was about the sex.
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I think I was one of
her first Girl/Girl scenes,
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- so I was just more nervous
on the fact of, you know,
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- she's Tera Patrick, and she's
so much taller than me, too.
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Like my face was at her vagina.
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What I liked about working with Vivid
was it was the first time where I actually-
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- completely got creative control over
everything I wanted to do in a movie.
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She's bright and she's articulate,
and she's very creative.
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Ooh, yeah, right.
Uh, yeah, you're on my clit.
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But I've been asked, would
you ever come back to porn?
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What if someone just dropped
a million dollars right there-
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- and said, you and Rocco can
have sex in Egypt on the pyramids.
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I still wouldn't do it.
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There was only so far I could go,
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- and I feel like ten years
is a good amount of time-
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- and a long time to
be in the porn business.
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Seka is amazing.
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She's my all time favorite
actress of that era.
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She's very glamorous.
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She was strictly business.
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All business.
Very smart girl.
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She kind of reminded me like of a
trashy version of Marilyn Monroe.
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Would you like to suck
on my tits, huh, right there?
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Ooh.
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What made me different
than anybody else at the time?
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For one thing,
I was the first platinum blonde.
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I mean, there were other blondes,
but not screaming blonde hair.
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She was working at a porn store,
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- and she was watching the
porn and thought to herself,
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- I could do way better than this.
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They have really dirty feet, and
they've got pimples on their butts.
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I said, this is really nasty.
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I went and made
my first adult movie,
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- and I don't think there
was even sound at the time.
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It was in color, though.
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I mean, I'm old, but I'm not
that old, so it was in color.
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And having owned
adult bookstores,
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- I knew the stars in the
business when I went on set,
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- and I just felt like a
big piece of meat on a hook.
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"Prisoner of Paradise"
was kind of fun.
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I played a German Nazi bitch
with a really bad German accent.
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But I thought, no,
she's a southern girl.
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How's she gonna do a Nazi?
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But she did.
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Don't you cum in me,
you American swine.
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Don't cum in me,
you American swine.
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♪ Oh, seka ♪
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♪ Tried on some sexy clothes ♪
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The film itself, "Inside Seka,"
was an incredibly popular film-
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- simply because it was one
of the films that had been made-
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- sort of when that porno
chic period was ending.
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And the reason why they were so important
is because they were star-centric.
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Seka has sex with
about 20 different guys.
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She also was given
$10,000 as her pay.
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Around 1982,
I decided to stop performing.
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AIDS was starting to become
a real big issue for me.
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I'd worked for "Club" magazine
after that for about ten years-
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- and I traveled around
the world stripping,
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- and I had a great time and
made a butt-load of money.
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I always thought she looked like
Raquel Welch when she was younger.
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So she was beautiful, her scenes
were hot, and she was a party girl.
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That's a really good combination,
for a superstar.
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She wasn't about making movies.
She was about fucking.
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She would show up and just want
to have sex, and do her best at that.
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We can lay music over this, right?
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- Yeah.
- Great.
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You don't mind just fucking me.
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Action.
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The pickin's weren't like it is today.
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It's not like now where the beautiful
hot chicks are a dime a dozen.
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So I was fresh meat.
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I was excited about my work.
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January of '89 I had my
first contract with Vivid-
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- on the back of a cocktail
napkin at the Tropicana.
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It was that simple.
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Tori Welles was one of the first
home video stars of her era.
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She was then contracted with Vivid,
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- who loaned her out to Andrew
Blake to make "Night Trips."
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The idea of "Night Trips" basically
came from my art direction-
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- and fashion design background.
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And, uh, I just wanted to make the
most beautiful movies that I could-
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- with the most beautiful talent
that was available at the time.
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He really made her the star like putting
her in almost every single scene.
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It was one of a kind, and it was the most
beautiful porn every made at that time.
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She was like pure
sex and a mile wide.
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It was very trans-formative during that
period, and she was at the right time,
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- the right place, with the right people.
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The success of "Night Trips" it
just happened before my eyes,
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- probably because of the beauty,
and sexual prowess of Tori Welles.
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I made a name accidentally, but
because of the drug addiction-
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- and because of the felonies,
and because of things like that,
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- you're not always able to move on,
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- you know, so you come back
to the adult tit, so to speak.
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I mean, I had gone from being
Tori Welles to like being a P.A.
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It's like talk about humiliating.
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So, you know, some of it was good,
and some of it was bad, you know.
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Some of it was stupid.
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You know, you don't
get into this business if,
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- you know, you're completely
got your shit together.
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You just don't, and I don't
care what anybody says.
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Uh, I actually started working at
Hooters when I was 17 years old.
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You were supposed to be 18,
but I kind of was naturally big.
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Somebody was trying to scout me.
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They were like,
why haven't you done "Playboy"?
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And I was like,
I'd rather do porn.
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And I flew out to L.A.
Literally it was on a Friday,
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- and by the time
I came home Sunday,
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I had a signed contract
with Digital Playground.
232
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She was almost a star from
the moment we signed her.
233
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So it wasn't so much a matter
of making Jesse Jane a star.
234
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It was just a matter
of showing the world.
235
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And at the time, Seymore Butts
had his show, "Family Business,"
236
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- so he followed me around
like a little puppy dog.
237
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I have finally tracked you down.
238
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Do you know how many
times I have seen you?
239
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Every time you catch my eye,
and I wanna zoom up over to you,
240
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- but you disappear
as quick as you appear.
241
00:14:01,165 --> 00:14:05,479
And now that I just saw you, I just feel like,
I just felt like I just had to like get you-
242
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- while I knew you were cornered.
Are you planning on...
243
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Honey, I need you to do an interview.
Come do an interview.
244
00:14:09,924 --> 00:14:13,375
And then from then, they were
like, yep, she's made for porn.
245
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She's definitely, you know what?
246
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We made a right decision.
247
00:14:16,639 --> 00:14:18,223
It's mine to ride
when I'm fucking you.
248
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Oh, yes.
249
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I want the whole package.
I want it all.
250
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I wanna be the next star.
251
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Like the team
that I had behind me,
252
00:14:26,023 --> 00:14:27,918
- like the marketing and
everything was genius.
253
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Marketing her was simple.
254
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I mean, one image would
elicit so many responses-
255
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- from the media, and then
once people met her in person,
256
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- you know,
she never disappointed.
257
00:14:37,034 --> 00:14:40,743
I saw her do a Girl/Girl in the
"Pirates" movie that was really intense.
258
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It was basically like sex fighting,
and I've never seen anything like that.
259
00:14:45,126 --> 00:14:46,311
- Fuck, yeah?
- I Wanna kiss you.
260
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- Yeah?
- Slap me harder.
261
00:14:48,212 --> 00:14:50,544
Yeah?
Yeah?
262
00:14:55,761 --> 00:14:58,053
I think that's sort of the
quintessential barbie almost.
263
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Barbie's been everything.
She's been an astronaut.
264
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She's been, she's been
everything in between.
265
00:15:02,602 --> 00:15:06,391
So, yeah, there you go,
The Ultimate Porn Barbie.
266
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It's all I wanted. Like I wanted to be known
as the sex symbol you'll always remember.
267
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That when I get out of the business,
you'll still know the name Jesse Jane.
268
00:15:16,616 --> 00:15:20,450
The average lifespan of an
adult female performer's career-
269
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- is less than two years,
but this next group of stars-
270
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- have careers that span from 20
to over 30 years.
271
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Now, why have these
knockouts lasted in an industry-
272
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- that always looks
for the next big thing?
273
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Because these are
the golden goddesses-
274
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- whose beauty, passion,
and raw sexuality-
275
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- transcends all elements,
including time.
276
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One of the reasons for my
longevity is I just would not leave-
277
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- when they all wanted
me to after five years.
278
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Once I hit 30,
they sort of, I mean,
279
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- I got the AVN Lifetime
Achievement Award in 1989.
280
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It's like you trying
to tell me something?
281
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When you watch her
fuck on film, it is genuine.
282
00:16:05,623 --> 00:16:07,434
She also just has that
something, that star quality.
283
00:16:07,458 --> 00:16:11,201
Nina Hartley really resonates
with so many people-
284
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- that have become her
ardent fans over the years-
285
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- because she's so accessible, and
she's so honest, and she's so fearless.
286
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I've been able to maintain a 30-year-plus
career because I basically love the work.
287
00:16:26,268 --> 00:16:28,930
But the first time
I saw sex onscreen-
288
00:16:29,146 --> 00:16:33,265
- my inner cookie monster
just said: "Me want do that."
289
00:16:33,484 --> 00:16:36,351
Like she had a, uh, kind of
a cameo in "Boogie Nights"-
290
00:16:36,570 --> 00:16:39,312
- that like she really
showed what she's made of-
291
00:16:39,532 --> 00:16:41,468
- when she does a little
bit more mainstream stuff.
292
00:16:41,492 --> 00:16:43,779
She played William Macy's wife.
293
00:16:43,994 --> 00:16:47,328
She was kind of a sexual
free spirit in the movie.
294
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She cuckolded him
many, many times.
295
00:16:50,543 --> 00:16:52,625
What the fuck are you doing?
296
00:16:54,171 --> 00:16:56,037
What the fuck does
it look like I'm doing?
297
00:16:56,257 --> 00:16:57,292
Can you close the door?
298
00:16:57,508 --> 00:16:59,044
That's my wife, you asshole.
299
00:16:59,260 --> 00:17:01,467
For a sex worker,
when they try to go out-
300
00:17:01,679 --> 00:17:04,717
- and give sex education,
to be taken seriously,
301
00:17:04,932 --> 00:17:07,469
- I think no one is taken
more seriously than Nina.
302
00:17:07,685 --> 00:17:10,973
There's her vagina,
her urethra, and her clit.
303
00:17:11,188 --> 00:17:13,105
So how can I be a feminist
and be a sex worker?
304
00:17:13,315 --> 00:17:15,352
The bottom line is
my body, my rules.
305
00:17:15,568 --> 00:17:19,561
And the message on that was
whatever you wanna do is okay.
306
00:17:19,780 --> 00:17:21,896
That women should not be judged-
307
00:17:22,116 --> 00:17:24,403
- for being in this
business and being on set-
308
00:17:24,618 --> 00:17:26,859
- and having sex with a
different person every day.
309
00:17:27,079 --> 00:17:31,207
The energy coming at me, the laws
coming at me from both the religious right-
310
00:17:31,375 --> 00:17:34,043
- and the so-called feminist
left are exactly the same.
311
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They're prohibitionary.
312
00:17:35,588 --> 00:17:38,275
Um, one doesn't want me to have an
abortion, and one does not want me to sell-
313
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- the services of my vulva for money.
314
00:17:40,968 --> 00:17:42,675
I'm a Trojan horse for queer culture.
315
00:17:42,887 --> 00:17:45,254
I'm a bisexual,
I am kinky and all these things,
316
00:17:45,473 --> 00:17:47,680
- but I dress up normal,
I look very straight,
317
00:17:47,892 --> 00:17:51,217
- and my most fun times
are when I get my face-
318
00:17:51,437 --> 00:17:53,178
- between the legs
of a gay-for-pay girl-
319
00:17:53,397 --> 00:17:54,624
- and get a real response out of her.
320
00:17:54,648 --> 00:17:56,685
It's like, yes, I am that good.
321
00:18:01,447 --> 00:18:03,814
Her being with wicked for so long-
322
00:18:04,033 --> 00:18:09,030
- was a lot of the reason for the
longevity in her career, and her evolution.
323
00:18:09,246 --> 00:18:13,706
I think she's hotter now
than she was 15 years ago.
324
00:18:13,918 --> 00:18:17,206
But then when you go
beyond her physical aspects,
325
00:18:17,421 --> 00:18:19,958
- she's a good voice and
an advocate for our industry.
326
00:18:20,174 --> 00:18:24,046
Because Jessica has been in,
so many blockbuster adult movies,
327
00:18:24,261 --> 00:18:28,588
- she's one of the few modern adult stars
recognizable to the average consumer.
328
00:18:31,936 --> 00:18:33,176
Oh, fuck.
329
00:18:33,395 --> 00:18:34,706
I was a stripper.
330
00:18:34,730 --> 00:18:42,276
I had the luck to run into Blondage,
which was Janine and Julia Ann.
331
00:18:42,488 --> 00:18:45,731
And I saw them onstage
and something clicked.
332
00:18:45,950 --> 00:18:47,281
Yeah.
333
00:18:47,493 --> 00:18:52,070
A few people from wicked called me,
and then I agreed to sign with them.
334
00:18:52,289 --> 00:18:56,035
And I also came to realize that the more
I personally have to do with the movie,
335
00:18:56,252 --> 00:18:58,289
- the happier I am with the outcome.
336
00:19:05,010 --> 00:19:09,011
So she won Best Actress, and won
this great Hardcore Scene Award.
337
00:19:09,223 --> 00:19:13,845
And I think that defines
Jessica along the way as well.
338
00:19:14,061 --> 00:19:19,055
Even at adult star signings, women
are getting in line and telling her-
339
00:19:19,275 --> 00:19:22,142
- their sex concerns
and issues and problems.
340
00:19:22,361 --> 00:19:29,699
And then they started asking me
for sex advice, so I saw this opening-
341
00:19:29,910 --> 00:19:34,370
- for a different kind of sex-ed,
or a different kind of instructional.
342
00:19:34,582 --> 00:19:36,949
Jessica drake is unique.
343
00:19:37,167 --> 00:19:40,576
For one thing, DVD sales are dying,
and her movies still sell great.
344
00:19:40,796 --> 00:19:42,503
She's a spokesperson for Wicked,
345
00:19:42,715 --> 00:19:45,457
- she's a spokesperson
for the entire adult industry.
346
00:19:45,676 --> 00:19:47,667
She's a successful sex educator,
347
00:19:47,887 --> 00:19:49,489
- has had a ton of
mainstream appearances,
348
00:19:49,513 --> 00:19:53,173
- and, oh, by the way, still has time,
for all her philanthropy.
349
00:19:53,392 --> 00:19:56,851
So she's truly unique
amongst today's stars.
350
00:20:07,197 --> 00:20:09,426
Working with her, the scenes
were over way too quickly,
351
00:20:09,450 --> 00:20:10,760
- and then, of course,
I'm masturbating in my car-
352
00:20:10,784 --> 00:20:11,970
- thinking about her driving home.
353
00:20:11,994 --> 00:20:14,986
But, PFST, sex with Kylie?
Perfect.
354
00:20:15,205 --> 00:20:19,494
She's just such a strong,
powerful, um, artistic,
355
00:20:19,710 --> 00:20:21,246
- and visionary woman in my mind.
356
00:20:21,462 --> 00:20:23,565
You know, if she wanted to
come back and do films now,
357
00:20:23,589 --> 00:20:26,172
- which I would absolutely
be there if she would,
358
00:20:26,383 --> 00:20:29,091
- she could and she would kill it-
359
00:20:29,303 --> 00:20:32,341
- just as if it was 10 or
15 or even 20 years ago.
360
00:20:33,807 --> 00:20:36,517
So I suppose you could say I
started kind of in this business,
361
00:20:36,727 --> 00:20:39,768
- but not in this business when I
worked in a video store in San Diego,
362
00:20:39,980 --> 00:20:44,725
- and I was in charge
of ordering adult movies.
363
00:20:44,944 --> 00:20:48,256
And they said, okay, this is randy west
you're gonna be working with him, I'm like,
364
00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:49,655
- yeah, okay, I know who you are.
365
00:20:49,698 --> 00:20:52,110
And I was extremely nervous.
366
00:20:52,284 --> 00:20:55,443
I never thought in a million years
that I would win best new starlet.
367
00:20:55,663 --> 00:20:57,140
I was thrilled that I was nominated.
368
00:20:57,164 --> 00:20:58,370
Kylie Ireland.
369
00:21:00,793 --> 00:21:04,244
And I have to thank all the
people that have believed in me.
370
00:21:04,463 --> 00:21:07,672
It was '95 maybe that I signed
a contract with Sin City.
371
00:21:07,883 --> 00:21:09,089
We started shooting movies,
372
00:21:09,301 --> 00:21:13,135
- and we were supposed to do like
basically I think it was a movie a month.
373
00:21:13,347 --> 00:21:15,088
And suddenly none of us shot anything.
374
00:21:15,307 --> 00:21:19,050
I decided I was gonna
go to small claims court.
375
00:21:19,269 --> 00:21:24,772
I didn't realize at this point that that's
where "Judge Judy" picked up their cases.
376
00:21:24,984 --> 00:21:28,976
You are about to enter the
courtroom of judge Judith Sheindlin.
377
00:21:29,196 --> 00:21:31,654
Kylie Ireland is an adult movie star.
378
00:21:31,865 --> 00:21:34,277
She's suing this producer
for breach of contract.
379
00:21:34,493 --> 00:21:36,575
- She's not some airhead.
- Thank you.
380
00:21:36,787 --> 00:21:38,698
And I'm awarding
$5,000 to the plaintiff.
381
00:21:38,914 --> 00:21:41,155
Remember, there was
no internet at the time.
382
00:21:41,375 --> 00:21:43,912
Adult stars didn't
end up on reality shows.
383
00:21:44,128 --> 00:21:46,244
That catapulted her to another level.
384
00:21:46,463 --> 00:21:48,170
She was already popular,
but now she's,
385
00:21:48,382 --> 00:21:52,090
- mainstream people are going, well,
who's this women on "judge Judy"?
386
00:21:52,302 --> 00:21:54,043
She's incredible behind the camera.
387
00:21:54,263 --> 00:21:55,949
That's when I started
doing production design.
388
00:21:55,973 --> 00:21:58,385
I just always wanted to say,
I won art direction,
389
00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:02,343
- and that didn't happen
until we did "Star Wars XXX."
390
00:22:04,106 --> 00:22:07,519
I find your lack of faith disturbing.
391
00:22:07,735 --> 00:22:09,225
My life is so weird.
392
00:22:09,445 --> 00:22:11,172
Sometimes I just sit here
and I go, my life is so strange.
393
00:22:11,196 --> 00:22:13,696
How bizarre is my life that this
is what I'm doing right now?
394
00:22:16,326 --> 00:22:19,489
Up till now, we've met some
the greatest female stars-
395
00:22:19,705 --> 00:22:21,161
- of all time.
396
00:22:21,373 --> 00:22:24,699
But you may be asking yourself,
where are the men?
397
00:22:24,918 --> 00:22:26,784
Okay, let's bring on the biggest studs,
398
00:22:27,004 --> 00:22:30,793
- in every sense, in the
history of the adult business.
399
00:22:31,008 --> 00:22:33,249
We start with john C. Holmes,
400
00:22:33,469 --> 00:22:37,133
- whose claim to fame
rested between his legs.
401
00:22:37,347 --> 00:22:40,840
- Are you really twin brothers?
- No, not really.
402
00:22:41,060 --> 00:22:42,846
Same father, different mothers.
403
00:22:43,062 --> 00:22:45,415
Oh, what a mess. Will someone come
here and change the sheet here?
404
00:22:45,439 --> 00:22:46,645
Oh, this is disgusting.
405
00:22:46,857 --> 00:22:47,959
Oh, that's the same hand,
isn't it?
406
00:22:47,983 --> 00:22:49,314
- Yeah.
- Oh, god.
407
00:22:49,526 --> 00:22:52,439
John Holmes definitely
impacted pop culture.
408
00:22:52,654 --> 00:22:55,817
And especially in
the '70s, he was it.
409
00:22:56,033 --> 00:22:58,240
He was like a sight to see.
410
00:22:58,452 --> 00:22:59,658
14 inches.
411
00:22:59,870 --> 00:23:01,120
And they all wanted to see it.
412
00:23:01,288 --> 00:23:02,653
That's what John was.
413
00:23:02,873 --> 00:23:04,034
He was a freak.
414
00:23:04,249 --> 00:23:07,335
I was sitting there editing, and my
partner comes out and he says, Bob,
415
00:23:07,377 --> 00:23:09,169
- you gotta come in
and see this guy's dick.
416
00:23:09,379 --> 00:23:11,837
Wow!
417
00:23:12,049 --> 00:23:17,756
I said, man, that's the last thing I
wanna do is see a tall skinny guy's dick.
418
00:23:17,971 --> 00:23:21,430
I can't paint and I can't
draw and I can't sculpt.
419
00:23:21,642 --> 00:23:26,227
So I have to have some outlet
for my fake artistic qualities.
420
00:23:26,438 --> 00:23:27,832
My name is Johnny Wadd.
421
00:23:27,856 --> 00:23:29,312
I'm a private detective.
422
00:23:29,525 --> 00:23:31,061
It was one of those slow days-
423
00:23:31,276 --> 00:23:34,064
- where there was very little
money and very little pussy.
424
00:23:38,283 --> 00:23:43,027
Basically they get involved
with me, for one of one reason.
425
00:23:43,247 --> 00:23:46,615
And, uh, it doesn't go beyond that.
426
00:23:46,834 --> 00:23:50,493
He quite literally didn't have to
do anything, but be John Holmes.
427
00:23:50,712 --> 00:23:52,171
He came onto camera
and he sat down-
428
00:23:52,297 --> 00:23:55,210
- and he leaned back and
the girl did what she did.
429
00:23:55,425 --> 00:23:57,632
He would say,
how much film you got?
430
00:23:57,845 --> 00:24:03,306
And have my cameraman could
count down, and he could cum on cue.
431
00:24:03,517 --> 00:24:05,142
He was that good
back in the early days.
432
00:24:05,352 --> 00:24:06,934
Not so much later.
433
00:24:07,146 --> 00:24:11,022
Why do you stay in the bathroom,
for five hours at a time on sets?
434
00:24:11,233 --> 00:24:12,940
I don't know.
It's a shitty habit.
435
00:24:13,152 --> 00:24:14,796
There was a time when
he was very troubled.
436
00:24:14,820 --> 00:24:16,652
He'd been using drugs a lot,
437
00:24:16,864 --> 00:24:20,573
- and the reason we shot
"Prisoner of Paradise"-
438
00:24:20,742 --> 00:24:23,359
- on Kauai was because I thought-
439
00:24:23,579 --> 00:24:27,742
- if we can get him away from Los
Angeles, it might help him, and it did.
440
00:24:27,958 --> 00:24:29,369
His goal in life was just to see-
441
00:24:29,585 --> 00:24:32,872
- how many people he could
fuck over as fast as he could-
442
00:24:33,088 --> 00:24:35,625
- and get out of town
without getting killed.
443
00:24:35,841 --> 00:24:37,127
On the wonderland murders,
444
00:24:37,342 --> 00:24:41,547
Eddie Nash was this very big drug
dealer, and john had hooked up.
445
00:24:41,763 --> 00:24:43,158
Uh, they heisted all the money
and all the drugs from Eddie,
446
00:24:43,182 --> 00:24:44,599
- and Eddie found out it was John-
447
00:24:44,641 --> 00:24:46,473
- who got him in trouble,
448
00:24:46,685 --> 00:24:50,019
- and Eddie said, John's dead.
449
00:24:50,230 --> 00:24:54,519
He's like running around
the country evading police.
450
00:24:54,735 --> 00:24:56,567
They catch him Florida.
451
00:24:56,778 --> 00:24:58,320
He's in jail and there's petty theft-
452
00:24:58,405 --> 00:25:01,739
- and there's burglary and
then there's drug dealing-
453
00:25:01,950 --> 00:25:04,179
- and there's pimping and
then he's prostituting himself.
454
00:25:04,203 --> 00:25:05,989
He's prostituting his girlfriend.
455
00:25:06,205 --> 00:25:08,080
He's all over the place
doing whatever he can-
456
00:25:08,207 --> 00:25:10,143
- to basically keep this
habit alive that he has-
457
00:25:10,167 --> 00:25:12,784
- that I don't think he
ever quite overcame.
458
00:25:13,003 --> 00:25:15,085
We the jury,
in the above entitled action,
459
00:25:15,297 --> 00:25:18,672
- find the defendant, John Curtis
Holmes, not guilty of murder.
460
00:25:18,884 --> 00:25:22,843
When it came out that he did
have AIDS, the shit hit the fan.
461
00:25:23,055 --> 00:25:25,888
In the industry that's pretty
much the worst thing you can do.
462
00:25:26,099 --> 00:25:28,890
You're jeopardizing people's lives,
and especially back then.
463
00:25:29,102 --> 00:25:30,467
AIDS was a death sentence.
464
00:25:30,687 --> 00:25:32,098
It wasn't something you managed.
465
00:25:32,314 --> 00:25:34,726
He just told them he had the flu.
466
00:25:34,942 --> 00:25:37,058
Typical of John to lie to everybody.
467
00:25:37,277 --> 00:25:39,314
Thank god none of them got sick.
468
00:25:39,529 --> 00:25:46,367
He was the ultimate gigolo,
The ultimate Playboy.
469
00:25:47,621 --> 00:25:51,659
The ultimate con man,
and that's what he was.
470
00:25:51,875 --> 00:25:53,661
Let's go.
471
00:25:53,877 --> 00:25:56,209
I want you to brief me
before I get involved in this.
472
00:25:56,421 --> 00:25:57,752
Yes, sir.
473
00:26:03,095 --> 00:26:04,656
He's a consummate professional.
474
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:06,512
He's one of the few guys-
475
00:26:06,723 --> 00:26:10,591
- that's had a great balance
between, um, chemistry-
476
00:26:10,811 --> 00:26:12,893
- and, and raw sexual energy.
477
00:26:13,105 --> 00:26:16,105
You know, like he's found a way to
be a black man and not come on set-
478
00:26:16,316 --> 00:26:19,104
- with like, you know,
a bunch of chains and jewelry-
479
00:26:19,319 --> 00:26:20,736
- and like an entourage, you know.
480
00:26:20,821 --> 00:26:25,447
He comes in, he has a hard dick,
he lays it down and, you know,
481
00:26:25,659 --> 00:26:28,026
- he leaves a smile on your face.
482
00:26:28,245 --> 00:26:29,973
And it's so funny,
'cause he's the sweetest guy.
483
00:26:29,997 --> 00:26:31,453
Like he's just really mellow,
484
00:26:31,665 --> 00:26:34,578
- and then all of a sudden,
he pulls out this monster.
485
00:26:34,793 --> 00:26:37,063
Very early out of college
I got into finance,
486
00:26:37,087 --> 00:26:41,205
- and so I became the proverbial
wall street stockbroker, for six years.
487
00:26:41,425 --> 00:26:44,041
The broker that trained
me brought me to a party,
488
00:26:44,261 --> 00:26:46,468
- which was a 19-on-1 gangbang.
489
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:50,093
So I got kind of used to
having sex in front of people-
490
00:26:50,309 --> 00:26:52,095
- at a very early
part of my adulthood.
491
00:26:52,311 --> 00:26:53,955
That's why a lot of
people buy his stuff,
492
00:26:53,979 --> 00:26:57,308
- 'cause they're like, I wanna
watch Lex specifically fuck girls.
493
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:05,738
It was just me being myself, but
the key ingredient was the casting.
494
00:27:05,949 --> 00:27:08,816
Always the absolute
best female talent-
495
00:27:09,036 --> 00:27:10,786
- available at the moment
we were shooting.
496
00:27:10,954 --> 00:27:13,491
I think that he is the most
successful black performer ever-
497
00:27:13,707 --> 00:27:17,371
- because he's just so
consistent and so driven.
498
00:27:19,171 --> 00:27:23,085
I won Male Performer of The
Year 2000, 2002, and 2003,
499
00:27:23,300 --> 00:27:25,337
- and one of the things
I've gotten out of it-
500
00:27:25,552 --> 00:27:28,510
- that has been perhaps
more impactful in my life-
501
00:27:28,722 --> 00:27:31,259
- has been that I've been
the only black performer-
502
00:27:31,475 --> 00:27:34,846
- to have won Performer of
The Year Award male or female.
503
00:27:35,062 --> 00:27:38,600
He's probably one of the few
successful black performers-
504
00:27:38,815 --> 00:27:42,774
- that owns his own company,
and to me, that was very inspiring.
505
00:27:42,986 --> 00:27:47,008
For Lex to take his name, and then
spin off and do other things, you know.
506
00:27:47,032 --> 00:27:49,023
He has his own podcast.
507
00:27:49,201 --> 00:27:52,617
He has his own talk show,
you know, he has his own toy line.
508
00:27:52,829 --> 00:27:56,280
I'm in my 15th year in
the major leagues, right,
509
00:27:56,500 --> 00:28:02,123
- and it's not really a case where I
feel that I'm getting tired of performing,
510
00:28:02,339 --> 00:28:05,505
- you know, despite the fact that I
may now be more than twice the age-
511
00:28:05,717 --> 00:28:07,278
- of some of the youngest
performers I work with.
512
00:28:07,302 --> 00:28:10,589
I love the fact that,
you know, I get to do this.
513
00:28:10,806 --> 00:28:14,844
And there's actually a renewed vigor,
for performance that I'm undergoing-
514
00:28:15,060 --> 00:28:19,850
- because I've gotten to the point where
I realize there's only a few guys globally-
515
00:28:20,065 --> 00:28:23,940
- that get a chance to perform,
and be regarded as the main dudes.
516
00:28:24,152 --> 00:28:29,155
I appreciate being a performer more
now than when I started my career.
517
00:28:29,366 --> 00:28:34,322
Yeah, when I started in Europe, so
the three first years I did only in France.
518
00:28:34,538 --> 00:28:35,903
So I had to make a choice.
519
00:28:36,123 --> 00:28:38,660
I was done with school.
What do I do now?
520
00:28:38,875 --> 00:28:41,207
Like am I starting being a teacher-
521
00:28:41,420 --> 00:28:45,379
- or if I do that, I'm gonna
have to really focus on that.
522
00:28:45,590 --> 00:28:49,295
He's just very controlling,
but passionate in the same way.
523
00:28:49,511 --> 00:28:55,301
He's one of the few men that I will let be
rough with me, and take me into that level.
524
00:28:55,517 --> 00:28:58,351
I think that he's the perfect performer,
for every girl to work with-
525
00:28:58,395 --> 00:29:02,896
- because he teaches you a lot about
yourself while working with him.
526
00:29:03,108 --> 00:29:05,891
People started doing like the
rough stuff, and the gonzo things,
527
00:29:06,111 --> 00:29:09,320
- and he kind of like
threw himself in headfirst.
528
00:29:15,620 --> 00:29:19,016
Once the sex started, it just
like seemed to go really naturally-
529
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,372
- and it was easy to
just like tell him like,
530
00:29:21,585 --> 00:29:24,247
- oh, I have no limits.
You can do whatever you want.
531
00:29:24,463 --> 00:29:27,125
It was really cool.
It was like a roller-coaster.
532
00:29:29,176 --> 00:29:32,714
- Oh, fuck, yes. Yes, yes.
- Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
533
00:29:32,929 --> 00:29:36,171
Uh, the first time I had sex with
Manuel, I was super nervous.
534
00:29:36,391 --> 00:29:40,638
I was shaking and he had to keep asking me if
I was okay and if I could go through with this.
535
00:29:40,854 --> 00:29:42,915
I was like, yeah, you just don't
understand you're a huge deal.
536
00:29:42,939 --> 00:29:46,307
Like when I was 18, I was
watching you fuck other women.
537
00:29:46,526 --> 00:29:48,358
I'm gonna cum.
538
00:29:48,570 --> 00:29:52,904
I've done so many scenes with
Manuel, it kind of blurs together.
539
00:29:53,116 --> 00:29:56,859
At the point, you know when you're gonna
die, and your life flashes before your eyes?
540
00:29:57,078 --> 00:30:00,370
It would just be lots of dicks,
but Manuel would be in there a lot.
541
00:30:00,582 --> 00:30:04,120
So I won AVN male performer
of the year six times.
542
00:30:04,336 --> 00:30:08,580
Uh, one of them I think was, uh,
foreign performer of the year.
543
00:30:08,798 --> 00:30:10,414
Like it's like basketball.
544
00:30:10,634 --> 00:30:12,124
Like everyone can play basketball.
545
00:30:12,344 --> 00:30:14,381
Not everyone's gonna be Kobe.
546
00:30:21,394 --> 00:30:23,135
We're talking about
good sex down here.
547
00:30:23,355 --> 00:30:25,562
Rocco's up there, you know.
548
00:30:25,774 --> 00:30:29,186
Just like doing all sorts of
crazy passionate, hard fucking.
549
00:30:29,402 --> 00:30:33,191
And my first movie with john
was "Buttman Ultimate Workout."
550
00:30:33,406 --> 00:30:35,397
John, you know
what kind of girl I like.
551
00:30:35,617 --> 00:30:38,450
I like a girl with the big,
round, culo ass.
552
00:30:40,330 --> 00:30:43,789
This is the most
successful series I ever done.
553
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:49,210
I mean, john for me
has really been a mentor.
554
00:30:55,762 --> 00:31:02,262
I think every male performer has
Rocco in some way as a role model.
555
00:31:02,477 --> 00:31:05,219
He just exudes sexuality,
556
00:31:05,438 --> 00:31:07,805
- and you can't put your
finger on what that is, right?
557
00:31:08,024 --> 00:31:10,436
That's just a thing.
That's a DNA thing.
558
00:31:10,652 --> 00:31:14,402
When Rocco came along, you realized,
oh, I can get a phenomenal sex scene.
559
00:31:14,614 --> 00:31:16,821
He will make this girl
look really, really good.
560
00:31:17,033 --> 00:31:19,195
He'll make her look better
than in any other movie.
561
00:31:19,411 --> 00:31:26,203
Since I was very teeny, very
young, I had this kind of fire inside.
562
00:31:26,418 --> 00:31:32,121
I remember I was 13, jerking off, jerking
off, jerking off, and the doctor, I remember,
563
00:31:32,340 --> 00:31:35,666
- was very angry, told me,
hey, man, stop the jerk off.
564
00:31:35,885 --> 00:31:38,092
Otherwise you never,
you will never get better.
565
00:31:38,305 --> 00:31:42,048
His performance was 30
different than anything else.
566
00:31:42,267 --> 00:31:45,931
He never broke eye contact.
567
00:31:51,151 --> 00:31:54,602
Well, my first Boy/Girl scene was
with the infamous Rocco Siffredi.
568
00:31:54,821 --> 00:32:00,236
I didn't know his type of scenes,
how aggressive they are.
569
00:32:00,452 --> 00:32:05,237
Speaking to me in Italian. It was great
'cause he, he, he made love to me.
570
00:32:05,457 --> 00:32:12,665
You know, I did two movies in french,
which was not porn, it was mainstream.
571
00:32:12,881 --> 00:32:14,497
It was an incredible experience.
572
00:32:14,716 --> 00:32:19,217
Catherine come back with
the movie, for me as main star.
573
00:32:19,429 --> 00:32:24,465
A gay guy prostitute for the first
time make love with a woman.
574
00:32:24,684 --> 00:32:26,300
One of the best
experience in my life.
575
00:32:26,519 --> 00:32:33,516
Elegance, style, grace,
sexuality, intensity.
576
00:32:33,735 --> 00:32:35,021
I love that guy.
577
00:32:35,236 --> 00:32:39,154
And when you fuck a woman,
you put your soul.
578
00:32:39,366 --> 00:32:41,116
You don't fuck the girl
just with the dick.
579
00:32:41,159 --> 00:32:45,827
Woman, you need to fuck them in the brain
if you want to bring something out of them.
580
00:32:46,039 --> 00:32:47,575
Oh, my god.
581
00:32:49,918 --> 00:32:52,706
In many ways both
positive and negative,
582
00:32:52,921 --> 00:32:57,381
- the adult industry mirrors
mainstream entertainment.
583
00:32:57,592 --> 00:32:59,879
Like Hollywood,
the adult film industry-
584
00:33:00,095 --> 00:33:03,963
- has been correctly criticized
for its lack of diversity.
585
00:33:04,182 --> 00:33:08,850
Performers, directors, and producers
of color have been too rare in times past.
586
00:33:09,062 --> 00:33:13,931
But today, performers of color are
starting to break through more regularly-
587
00:33:14,150 --> 00:33:18,982
- and controlling their own careers
both in front and behind the camera.
588
00:33:19,197 --> 00:33:22,189
These next trailblazers
made that possible-
589
00:33:22,409 --> 00:33:25,951
- by working through the inherent
prejudice in the sex business-
590
00:33:26,162 --> 00:33:29,996
- and forging successful
and even legendary careers.
591
00:33:38,174 --> 00:33:44,340
Misty Stone, so she came across as like
funny, interesting, vivacious, and cool.
592
00:33:44,556 --> 00:33:45,842
Like totally cool.
593
00:33:46,057 --> 00:33:49,470
And it's really cool to
see a woman of color-
594
00:33:49,686 --> 00:33:55,689
- in the industry that's not your typical
like 34DD with a gigantic big old booty.
595
00:33:55,900 --> 00:34:01,399
And she's like petite and
sensual, and just on fire.
596
00:34:01,614 --> 00:34:03,864
I think I just fell into the adult films.
597
00:34:03,950 --> 00:34:07,847
After awhile, it became more of a career
decision because I loved it so much,
598
00:34:07,871 --> 00:34:09,402
- I wanted to be the best at it.
599
00:34:09,414 --> 00:34:12,782
The "Men In Black" parody,
that movie was amazing.
600
00:34:13,001 --> 00:34:17,461
The special effects,
the makeup was outrageous.
601
00:34:17,672 --> 00:34:23,293
So many girls that do Girl/Girl, like not
to spoil the party, are not into Girl/Girl.
602
00:34:23,511 --> 00:34:28,138
I was so nervous, because, you
know, like she's, she's my mentor like.
603
00:34:28,349 --> 00:34:30,578
When you kind of get to
work with one of your idols,
604
00:34:30,602 --> 00:34:33,185
- you're just like,
I hope they're into it.
605
00:34:33,396 --> 00:34:36,354
By the time we were
like five minutes into it,
606
00:34:36,566 --> 00:34:40,146
- once we're kissing and stuff,
I felt so there with her.
607
00:34:40,361 --> 00:34:43,613
She was one of those girls that would
like would flirt before the scene-
608
00:34:43,698 --> 00:34:46,156
- is in the makeup
chair feeling on you.
609
00:34:46,409 --> 00:34:48,776
Just really immediately
kind of pulling me in.
610
00:34:48,995 --> 00:34:53,205
But now in my personal life,
I got to have some dick, baby.
611
00:34:53,416 --> 00:34:55,532
Oh, I'm gonna cum.
612
00:34:55,752 --> 00:34:58,164
Being a ebony model
in the business,
613
00:34:58,379 --> 00:35:01,542
- you kind of have a sort of like
a different journey in a way,
614
00:35:01,758 --> 00:35:04,090
- you know, because the
opportunities are different.
615
00:35:04,302 --> 00:35:06,885
You kind of have to really
know how to carry yourself-
616
00:35:07,096 --> 00:35:09,428
- and know how to present
yourself to the right people,
617
00:35:09,641 --> 00:35:12,929
- and I feel like misty has done
that from the very beginning.
618
00:35:13,144 --> 00:35:15,476
When I started, I was
told to follow Misty Stone-
619
00:35:15,688 --> 00:35:18,851
- as a role model,
and I'm glad that I have.
620
00:35:19,067 --> 00:35:20,649
It's not based on popularity.
621
00:35:20,860 --> 00:35:23,192
It's, it's, it's based on
your skin tone, baby.
622
00:35:23,404 --> 00:35:26,980
Say a new girl coming into the
industry, and she's very dark skinned.
623
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:30,066
Well, then you also have another
new girl coming in the industry,
624
00:35:30,078 --> 00:35:31,764
- and she's a little bit
more lighter skinner.
625
00:35:31,788 --> 00:35:33,849
Well, guess what?
That lighter skinned young Lady-
626
00:35:33,873 --> 00:35:36,560
- is gonna get a lot more work
than the darker skinner young Lady,
627
00:35:36,584 --> 00:35:37,768
- and that's just how it is.
628
00:35:37,794 --> 00:35:42,079
Now, another example would be,
well, we have this young white girl-
629
00:35:42,298 --> 00:35:44,380
- who's gonna get
1,500 for this scene,
630
00:35:44,592 --> 00:35:47,175
- but I think we're gonna give
this young black young Lady-
631
00:35:47,387 --> 00:35:50,254
- 800 for the scene,
and that's just how it is.
632
00:35:50,473 --> 00:35:53,928
Even our own black people do
it to us, and that's even sadder.
633
00:35:54,143 --> 00:35:57,723
That they downgrade us
when they should be uplifting us.
634
00:35:57,939 --> 00:35:59,350
She's a character.
635
00:35:59,566 --> 00:36:02,940
I've brought my little sister to a
scene, and it was back in the day.
636
00:36:03,152 --> 00:36:05,047
It was my first gangbang
I ever did in my whole life.
637
00:36:05,071 --> 00:36:06,732
I just needed support,
638
00:36:06,948 --> 00:36:10,907
- and I thought that that's what family's
supposed to do was be there and support you.
639
00:36:11,119 --> 00:36:13,097
But I don't think they're supposed
to be there and support you-
640
00:36:13,121 --> 00:36:15,371
- when you're getting
gang-banged by six or seven guys.
641
00:36:28,136 --> 00:36:32,425
Vanessa being the
first official Latin porn-star.
642
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:33,640
Wow.
643
00:36:33,766 --> 00:36:35,598
She is a true pioneer.
644
00:36:35,810 --> 00:36:41,893
She is a trailblazing superwoman
that I have just, I can identify with.
645
00:36:42,108 --> 00:36:46,272
You talk about staying power
and star power, she's, I mean,
646
00:36:46,487 --> 00:36:50,651
- she might be one of the most,
you know, the more iconic.
647
00:36:50,867 --> 00:36:53,359
And I guess that's also has
to do with that Latin heat.
648
00:36:53,578 --> 00:36:55,990
Wild, wild fucking.
649
00:36:56,205 --> 00:36:58,071
Nice, nice, very nice woman.
650
00:36:58,291 --> 00:36:59,577
Cubans are wild.
651
00:36:59,792 --> 00:37:00,792
Mm...
652
00:37:05,506 --> 00:37:09,090
I guess I was, I was like the first
woman of color in the business.
653
00:37:09,302 --> 00:37:13,504
They saw that there was a market for
it because I became so popular so fast.
654
00:37:13,723 --> 00:37:19,347
She had a following from day one,
and she was smart enough to realize it-
655
00:37:19,562 --> 00:37:23,767
- and she was one of the first
women to get $1,000 a day,
656
00:37:23,983 --> 00:37:25,894
- which was unheard of at that point.
657
00:37:26,110 --> 00:37:29,978
Most of the women were working
for 300, 350, in that neighborhood.
658
00:37:30,198 --> 00:37:32,280
Hey, wait a minute.
659
00:37:32,492 --> 00:37:37,615
He's your husband, and you've got
five minutes to finish him off and go home.
660
00:37:37,830 --> 00:37:39,286
I have to go to work.
661
00:37:39,499 --> 00:37:41,115
I did waitress.
662
00:37:41,334 --> 00:37:42,334
I did go-go.
663
00:37:42,543 --> 00:37:44,125
I did stripping.
664
00:37:44,337 --> 00:37:45,498
I did hooking.
665
00:37:45,713 --> 00:37:50,294
I did the whole 42nd
street stroll, which was fun.
666
00:37:50,510 --> 00:37:52,922
My first movie was "China Doll."
667
00:37:53,137 --> 00:37:56,675
Vanessa Del Rio,
the inventor of the DP.
668
00:37:56,891 --> 00:38:02,014
I'll take the title, but I'm sure that there
was double penetration going on before me.
669
00:38:02,230 --> 00:38:04,437
Come on, baby.
Stick it in.
670
00:38:04,649 --> 00:38:05,649
Come on.
671
00:38:05,692 --> 00:38:07,228
And I blew the cameraman.
672
00:38:07,443 --> 00:38:08,808
Ooh!
673
00:38:09,028 --> 00:38:11,520
In my first movie.
674
00:38:11,739 --> 00:38:13,525
That's what the '70s was like.
675
00:38:13,741 --> 00:38:18,702
I liked the seedy environment, and the
way a peep show smelled, you know,
676
00:38:18,913 --> 00:38:20,495
- with the Clorox and cum.
677
00:38:24,002 --> 00:38:26,994
The live sex shows
took place at show world.
678
00:38:27,013 --> 00:38:31,098
David Christopher, I think he had
like a bunch of guys and girls,
679
00:38:31,309 --> 00:38:34,552
- like couples that wanted
to see a couple fuck.
680
00:38:34,771 --> 00:38:39,184
Just, you know, being surrounded by a
bunch of gawkers, you know, men and women.
681
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:43,105
So if you wanna know why my clit was
so big, was because I did body building,
682
00:38:43,321 --> 00:38:45,187
- and, yes, I did steroids.
683
00:38:45,406 --> 00:38:48,273
Doing the steroids and the side
effects that's I don't recommend.
684
00:38:48,493 --> 00:38:52,612
But having a big clit from it, yeah.
What woman wouldn't?
685
00:38:52,831 --> 00:38:54,225
I mean, it looks like a little dick.
686
00:38:54,249 --> 00:38:58,793
I suppose it is perverse, letting them
believe I can't speak English and all.
687
00:38:59,003 --> 00:39:01,210
She would only get
typecast as the, the maid.
688
00:39:01,422 --> 00:39:04,460
No matter how great she
looked, how glamorous.
689
00:39:04,676 --> 00:39:06,838
Very early on,
it was a white industry,
690
00:39:07,053 --> 00:39:08,669
- so here I come
with my, you know,
691
00:39:08,888 --> 00:39:13,548
- bigger than life like, you know,
big hair, and you know, like that.
692
00:39:13,768 --> 00:39:17,306
And so I was noted
as first Latina.
693
00:39:17,522 --> 00:39:18,728
Pretty good, no?
694
00:39:20,567 --> 00:39:24,027
Vanessa Del Rio is an inspiration
to girls like me in the industry-
695
00:39:24,195 --> 00:39:28,488
- that are of Latin descent, you know,
because she didn't let that hold her back.
696
00:39:28,700 --> 00:39:30,065
She owned it.
697
00:39:33,329 --> 00:39:34,785
Oh, yess, yes, yes.
698
00:39:34,998 --> 00:39:39,083
Asa Akira is certainly a
character like no other.
699
00:39:43,006 --> 00:39:48,675
30 my first job in the adult entertainment world
was as a dominatrix when I was 19 years old.
700
00:39:48,887 --> 00:39:53,513
I was just walking down the street one day,
and this guy just stopped me on the street-
701
00:39:53,725 --> 00:39:59,554
- and asked me, would you be interested in
being in the adult entertainment industry?
702
00:39:59,772 --> 00:40:02,230
And I was like, yes.
703
00:40:04,110 --> 00:40:07,353
And I followed him
upstairs to his dungeon.
704
00:40:07,572 --> 00:40:10,947
The next day, I started
training to be a dominatrix.
705
00:40:11,159 --> 00:40:12,159
So I'm really lucky.
706
00:40:12,285 --> 00:40:14,276
I mean, he could have killed me.
707
00:40:14,495 --> 00:40:15,985
That is her 100% of the time.
708
00:40:16,205 --> 00:40:18,321
She has no filter.
709
00:40:18,541 --> 00:40:24,787
She is the beginning of what I feel like what
made, made this business step outside the box.
710
00:40:25,006 --> 00:40:29,670
In 2013, I signed an exclusive
contract with Wicked Pictures.
711
00:40:29,886 --> 00:40:35,631
Probably the first girl I signed
that already was a huge star.
712
00:40:35,850 --> 00:40:41,136
Wicked shoots really beautiful,
high budget, like glamorous stuff.
713
00:40:44,317 --> 00:40:47,025
So the AVN awards were
one of the few things-
714
00:40:47,236 --> 00:40:54,199
- I actually knew about porn coming in, so it was
really exciting to be asked to host the event.
715
00:40:54,410 --> 00:40:58,532
That same night that I hosted the awards,
I won Female Performer of The Year.
716
00:40:58,748 --> 00:41:00,580
All:
Asa Akira.
717
00:41:00,792 --> 00:41:02,499
Oh, my god.
Yes.
718
00:41:02,710 --> 00:41:04,826
I wanted this so fucking bad.
719
00:41:05,046 --> 00:41:09,582
I got this theory that the reasons
there are never that many Asian girls
720
00:41:09,801 --> 00:41:13,752
- in the industry at any given
time is 'cause for most of us,
721
00:41:13,972 --> 00:41:19,057
- like the second our family finds out,
that's it. That's worked out to my advantage.
722
00:41:19,268 --> 00:41:22,556
Like I got to be in a lot
of movies as the Asian girl.
723
00:41:22,772 --> 00:41:23,999
And I think that's very wrong.
724
00:41:24,023 --> 00:41:29,481
I think she is very much, whether she
was Asian or not is an amazing performer.
725
00:41:29,696 --> 00:41:34,941
And she really is gonna be
one of the last big stars of porn.
726
00:41:35,159 --> 00:41:38,652
Like I said, she would go to
a shoot to do an anal shoot-
727
00:41:38,871 --> 00:41:41,158
- and end up doing a
gangbang by accident.
728
00:41:41,374 --> 00:41:43,456
There was a lot of
accidents on her sets,
729
00:41:43,668 --> 00:41:46,751
- but I guess happy
accidents for the directors.
730
00:41:46,963 --> 00:41:48,357
You know, like I always tell people
731
00:41:48,381 --> 00:41:50,873
like I'm the best
case scenario in porn.
732
00:41:51,092 --> 00:41:54,551
Found love.
I've found a career.
733
00:41:54,762 --> 00:41:57,299
Um, I've never been
taken advantage of.
734
00:41:57,515 --> 00:41:59,722
Last year I had a
memoir published.
735
00:41:59,934 --> 00:42:04,098
Uh, it's titled "insatiable:
Porn a love story."
736
00:42:04,313 --> 00:42:07,271
And that's like exactly
how I feel about the industry.
737
00:42:07,483 --> 00:42:10,521
It's, it's, it's been a love story.
738
00:42:10,737 --> 00:42:13,900
Um, as cheesy as that sounds.
739
00:42:16,492 --> 00:42:21,077
The modern adult star is a much
different breed than those in the past.
740
00:42:21,289 --> 00:42:25,408
25 years ago, tattoos
and piercings were taboo.
741
00:42:25,626 --> 00:42:28,084
Sex acts performed in movies-
742
00:42:28,296 --> 00:42:32,290
- rarely included bondage,
discipline, or S&M.
743
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:36,047
Today, some of the
biggest adult stars-
744
00:42:36,262 --> 00:42:38,720
- are what we might
call alternative.
745
00:42:38,931 --> 00:42:43,383
But even as the alternative
blends into mainstream,
746
00:42:43,603 --> 00:42:46,727
- these stars stand out
with their unique styles-
747
00:42:46,939 --> 00:42:51,566
- and no fears,
no limits approach... To sex.
748
00:42:56,157 --> 00:42:58,398
- You like my blazer?
- Oh, yeah.
749
00:42:58,618 --> 00:43:01,280
She was going to
make herself a brand,
750
00:43:01,496 --> 00:43:04,158
- and she wanted to
shoot hot tattooed girls-
751
00:43:04,373 --> 00:43:09,459
- and alternative styles, which was very
different from what you were typically seeing.
752
00:43:09,545 --> 00:43:11,252
Why I think Joanna
is such a big star-
753
00:43:11,464 --> 00:43:14,422
- is because that she doesn't
try to change her style-
754
00:43:14,634 --> 00:43:16,195
- where it's like,
well, they're doing that,
755
00:43:16,219 --> 00:43:17,969
- so we should start
doing that. It's like,
756
00:43:18,054 --> 00:43:20,638
- no, this is what works for us.
And that's what her fans love.
757
00:43:20,681 --> 00:43:22,922
Joanna angel has
always been a person-
758
00:43:23,142 --> 00:43:25,884
- who I've looked
up to in the industry.
759
00:43:26,104 --> 00:43:28,636
Someone who started her own
business when she was in college.
760
00:43:28,856 --> 00:43:32,603
I don't think it was me that
actually came up with burning angel,
761
00:43:32,819 --> 00:43:36,061
- but I did say I wanted some
kind of good girl, bad girl thing.
762
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:38,822
I didn't know anything about porn.
I had never watched a porn.
763
00:43:38,950 --> 00:43:40,406
I knew nothing about the industry.
764
00:43:40,618 --> 00:43:42,743
I didn't even really know
that porn was an industry.
765
00:43:42,912 --> 00:43:45,825
I mean,
this was 13 or 14 years ago.
766
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:47,874
There was no Twitter,
there was no Instagram.
767
00:43:48,084 --> 00:43:50,145
You could not just log on
to anywhere on the internet-
768
00:43:50,169 --> 00:43:52,501
- and find out what
porn-stars do every day.
769
00:43:52,713 --> 00:43:54,420
So I guess I was the first girl-
770
00:43:54,632 --> 00:43:57,420
- to have her own
hardcore video porn site.
771
00:43:57,635 --> 00:43:59,592
So we got a lot of press
when we first started.
772
00:43:59,804 --> 00:44:04,848
I wasn't expecting to be a figurehead,
for punk and porn and feminism.
773
00:44:05,059 --> 00:44:06,299
I wanted to do everything,
774
00:44:06,519 --> 00:44:09,932
- so the first scene I
ever did I had anal sex,
775
00:44:10,148 --> 00:44:13,065
- and that was only like the third
time I even did it in my whole life.
776
00:44:14,569 --> 00:44:16,403
It's called: "burning angel.com
- the movie"-
777
00:44:16,445 --> 00:44:19,187
- here's what happens when
a website becomes a movie.
778
00:44:19,407 --> 00:44:21,774
I don't know if anyone really got it.
779
00:44:21,993 --> 00:44:24,951
So Tommy pistol, it was his
first scene and my first scene.
780
00:44:25,163 --> 00:44:28,246
He kept asking me if,
if he would have to shave-
781
00:44:28,457 --> 00:44:30,994
- his ass or not
if he did the movie.
782
00:44:31,210 --> 00:44:33,497
A lot of the sex that we had-
783
00:44:33,713 --> 00:44:37,206
- was like in places
in new york or Brooklyn,
784
00:44:37,425 --> 00:44:39,507
- and sometimes they
were out on rooftops-
785
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:42,427
- or in like in school busses-
786
00:44:42,638 --> 00:44:45,721
- and with a lot of Hasidic
Jews walking around-
787
00:44:45,933 --> 00:44:47,475
- wondering what's going on in there?
788
00:44:47,518 --> 00:44:49,018
Something I really
love about Joanna-
789
00:44:49,103 --> 00:44:51,970
- is that she has a really
great sense of humor.
790
00:44:52,190 --> 00:44:56,941
And so she always brings that
piece of herself into her scenes.
791
00:44:57,153 --> 00:44:59,861
Thank you, kind sir.
And I'll tell you what.
792
00:45:00,072 --> 00:45:02,313
I'll even let you put it in my butt.
793
00:45:05,620 --> 00:45:09,662
I've now won an AVN award, for
best sex comedy three times now.
794
00:45:09,874 --> 00:45:13,037
It's kind of where I've sort of
found my comfort zone in porn.
795
00:45:13,252 --> 00:45:18,413
She also picked up on it really early in
her career that if she had her own site,
796
00:45:18,633 --> 00:45:22,834
- that she wanted her sites to be the only
place you could find Joanna angel fucking.
797
00:45:23,054 --> 00:45:26,718
I really hate the term "Alt Porn,"
798
00:45:26,933 --> 00:45:31,811
- but I do realize that everything
in porn needs a category.
799
00:45:31,938 --> 00:45:34,680
I got into porn by
literally weaseling my way-
800
00:45:34,899 --> 00:45:38,608
- into the porn industry,
and I'm still here.
801
00:45:38,819 --> 00:45:40,480
Pick up a camera,
shoot something,
802
00:45:40,696 --> 00:45:42,007
- get it out there, you're in porn.
803
00:45:42,031 --> 00:45:43,031
There it is.
804
00:45:44,700 --> 00:45:45,992
Oh, god, I think I'm gonna cum.
805
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:47,867
I'm gonna cum.
806
00:45:48,079 --> 00:45:53,616
Skin diamond is easily one of the greatest
crossover, BDSM, and porn performers.
807
00:45:53,834 --> 00:45:56,121
I think that's probably why
so many people like her-
808
00:45:56,337 --> 00:45:58,129
- is because she's
not afraid to be herself.
809
00:45:58,297 --> 00:46:02,633
She's just as good at receiving flogging
and nipple clamps as she is at taking anal.
810
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:04,171
She's very exotic.
811
00:46:04,387 --> 00:46:06,003
Like she could be from the future.
812
00:46:06,222 --> 00:46:07,838
She could be from the past.
813
00:46:08,057 --> 00:46:09,099
She could be from Pangia.
814
00:46:09,267 --> 00:46:10,348
I don't know.
815
00:46:10,559 --> 00:46:13,642
Oh, yeah.
Oh.
816
00:46:13,854 --> 00:46:15,595
I was born in California,
817
00:46:15,815 --> 00:46:19,891
- but I moved to Scotland when I was
three because my dad was a missionary.
818
00:46:20,111 --> 00:46:23,979
I wanted to start modeling nude,
819
00:46:24,198 --> 00:46:25,484
- which was a big deal,
820
00:46:25,700 --> 00:46:27,094
- because at the time,
my dad had transitioned-
821
00:46:27,118 --> 00:46:30,405
- from being a missionary
to a children's tv show host.
822
00:46:30,621 --> 00:46:33,238
So it was a, a big scandal.
823
00:46:33,457 --> 00:46:36,542
I mean, ten or 20 years ago I don't
think somebody could have like-
824
00:46:36,711 --> 00:46:41,079
- built their entire career being
alternative looking, I would say.
825
00:46:41,299 --> 00:46:45,375
She understands being a sex worker in a way
that a lot of the newer girls don't get.
826
00:46:45,594 --> 00:46:48,757
Not only that, but alternative
sex worker by choice.
827
00:46:48,973 --> 00:46:53,759
Coming from the fetish scene, you know,
it's, it's a very misunderstood group.
828
00:46:53,978 --> 00:46:58,767
And then all of a sudden, I was in this
environment where the dirtier, the better.
829
00:46:58,983 --> 00:47:01,270
Like you wanna do something crazy?
Then let's film it.
830
00:47:01,485 --> 00:47:03,444
I had her like kind of
all tied up and was like-
831
00:47:03,654 --> 00:47:06,238
- filming her on like a super 8
camera and being really creepy.
832
00:47:06,407 --> 00:47:08,614
And like, I'm gonna be a star.
You're my princess.
833
00:47:08,826 --> 00:47:10,743
She's the type of person
that you want to fuck.
834
00:47:10,870 --> 00:47:12,079
With a gun.
835
00:47:12,246 --> 00:47:13,830
- No, I'm not lying.
- Don't lie to me.
836
00:47:13,873 --> 00:47:15,079
No.
837
00:47:15,291 --> 00:47:16,958
When I first got in,
everyone told me to,
838
00:47:17,001 --> 00:47:19,868
- that, again, that my
look was too extreme.
839
00:47:20,087 --> 00:47:22,499
But it was actually,
it actually worked in my favor,
840
00:47:22,715 --> 00:47:24,956
- I think, because
it made me stand out.
841
00:47:25,176 --> 00:47:27,008
I, I think that being
a submissive woman-
842
00:47:27,219 --> 00:47:32,634
- is a very empowering thing to
do um, because you have to be-
843
00:47:32,850 --> 00:47:37,051
- really tough, and in the fetish
world, it's all about consent.
844
00:47:37,271 --> 00:47:38,602
It's not about abuse.
845
00:47:38,814 --> 00:47:42,936
I've been very blessed in that I've
gotten a lot of mainstream attention.
846
00:47:43,152 --> 00:47:45,109
I've actually got to do
some really cool stuff.
847
00:47:45,321 --> 00:47:46,652
Count to ten.
848
00:47:48,949 --> 00:47:50,781
One.
849
00:47:52,495 --> 00:47:54,281
Two.
850
00:47:55,790 --> 00:47:57,201
Why are you being so gentle?
851
00:47:57,416 --> 00:47:58,747
Oh!
852
00:47:58,959 --> 00:48:02,828
I have a lot of nerdy pleasures,
so I did a whole movie-
853
00:48:03,047 --> 00:48:06,289
- where I cos-played different
characters from the different worlds.
854
00:48:06,509 --> 00:48:12,129
Wind moving through the leaves,
bring me harry potter please.
855
00:48:12,348 --> 00:48:16,348
A few years ago, I was featured in
a marvel comic, the new "Daredevil"-
856
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:19,052
- as the reference
model to draw echo.
857
00:48:19,271 --> 00:48:21,353
Pretty, pretty cool.
I'm sorry.
858
00:48:21,565 --> 00:48:24,102
I gotta, I gotta hand it to myself.
859
00:48:24,318 --> 00:48:26,309
So against what a
lot of the industry-
860
00:48:26,529 --> 00:48:29,237
- considers to be all odds,
she's risen further-
861
00:48:29,448 --> 00:48:31,439
- than most people
can ever dream of rising.
862
00:48:31,659 --> 00:48:34,276
By showing her true self,
863
00:48:34,495 --> 00:48:38,033
I think she's a, she's kind of,
she's kind of my hero for that.
864
00:48:38,249 --> 00:48:44,995
I think it really goes to show how far
we've come as human beings right now.
865
00:48:45,214 --> 00:48:52,468
Liking crazy sex isn't as unusual
for a girl to like sucking cock.
866
00:48:54,223 --> 00:48:55,509
Are you not his whore?
867
00:49:05,234 --> 00:49:07,775
Both my parents were very
religious in the Mormon religion,
868
00:49:07,987 --> 00:49:10,399
- so I kind of grew up
with that upbringing.
869
00:49:10,614 --> 00:49:16,241
I transitioned from Jesus to the adult
industry by seeking I think validation.
870
00:49:16,454 --> 00:49:18,240
It's refreshing to
be around someone-
871
00:49:18,456 --> 00:49:21,790
- that is so comfortable with
themselves and who they are-
872
00:49:22,001 --> 00:49:24,459
- that it makes you feel more
comfortable with who you are.
873
00:49:24,670 --> 00:49:27,287
She wasn't a fake person
in any way, shape or form.
874
00:49:27,506 --> 00:49:30,168
And I hate to say it,
but in the porn business,
875
00:49:30,384 --> 00:49:34,214
- sometimes being somewhat fake
with your emotions is a necessity.
876
00:49:34,430 --> 00:49:35,670
You think you can handle me?
877
00:49:35,890 --> 00:49:37,255
Yeah, I think so.
878
00:49:37,475 --> 00:49:39,386
I think I can handle you.
879
00:49:39,602 --> 00:49:41,593
I think you need to bend over.
880
00:49:41,812 --> 00:49:44,179
The thing that led to
belladonna's popularity,
881
00:49:44,398 --> 00:49:48,482
- I believe, was when Diane sawyer
profiled her on "Prime Time Live."
882
00:49:48,694 --> 00:49:52,437
The hatchet job, but people had
a lot of empathy for belladonna,
883
00:49:52,656 --> 00:49:54,567
- and that opened the
door for her success.
884
00:49:54,783 --> 00:49:57,241
She says afterwards
she was shattered,
885
00:49:57,453 --> 00:49:59,490
- but she just didn't
know how to refuse.
886
00:49:59,705 --> 00:50:02,413
Because I didn't know
any better, you know?
887
00:50:02,625 --> 00:50:06,869
I had these ideas of fame
and attention and money.
888
00:50:07,087 --> 00:50:10,588
When she started,
if a girl had a tattoo,
889
00:50:10,799 --> 00:50:14,588
- more than half the producers wouldn't
even hire the person if they had tattoos.
890
00:50:14,803 --> 00:50:17,929
And by the time she finished, it
was a completely different world.
891
00:50:18,140 --> 00:50:23,642
Ahe attention that I was getting
from my body was powerful.
892
00:50:23,854 --> 00:50:28,231
You know, it was the first time in
my life I felt like, wow, like I am sexy.
893
00:50:28,442 --> 00:50:32,026
I got an opportunity
to direct for evil angel.
894
00:50:32,238 --> 00:50:35,571
As a female director who was
really the one with the ideas.
895
00:50:35,783 --> 00:50:38,150
Because she could be
real in those movies,
896
00:50:38,369 --> 00:50:40,485
- and she was in a safe,
comfortable environment.
897
00:50:40,704 --> 00:50:44,113
We were just hanging out and
capture what you capture, and that's it.
898
00:50:44,333 --> 00:50:48,413
You know, I had never really thought
too much about what I was doing.
899
00:50:48,629 --> 00:50:51,838
I got these opportunities
and I did 'em-
900
00:50:52,049 --> 00:50:54,757
- and I was very much
in the moment, day to day.
901
00:50:54,969 --> 00:50:59,504
And in the height of DVD sales, belladonna
was a top seller week after week.
902
00:51:01,100 --> 00:51:06,352
In the 1970s and early 1980s, when porn
was mostly still shown in movie theaters,
903
00:51:06,564 --> 00:51:09,977
- acting was as much a
premium as sexual ability.
904
00:51:10,192 --> 00:51:14,610
Some of the greatest actors from the golden
age of adult cinema were classically trained.
905
00:51:14,822 --> 00:51:18,773
Appearing in adult films then
became an act of rebellion.
906
00:51:18,993 --> 00:51:24,116
Here now are adult cinema's most
award worthy dramatic performers.
907
00:51:24,331 --> 00:51:27,959
I am compelled to introduce myself.
My name is Johnny Dooropener.
908
00:51:28,127 --> 00:51:31,915
Howdy, Mr. Dooropener.
How did you know who I was?
909
00:51:32,131 --> 00:51:35,586
It's my business to know people.
John was very innovative.
910
00:51:35,801 --> 00:51:38,042
He was the real deal all day.
911
00:51:38,262 --> 00:51:44,219
He actually could act, and then he could
also do a, a sexual performance, and I think-
912
00:51:44,435 --> 00:51:46,597
- to be able to do both
was just a pretty rare gift.
913
00:51:46,812 --> 00:51:51,055
Of all the male porn-stars in the
'70s, he probably sold the most tickets.
914
00:51:51,275 --> 00:51:53,232
He was the only actor of that era-
915
00:51:53,444 --> 00:51:56,398
- that people came to see because
of his acting, and his charisma,
916
00:51:56,614 --> 00:51:58,400
- and he was the
Clark Gable of his era.
917
00:51:58,616 --> 00:52:00,510
At that time, there was no
material out there, so they had-
918
00:52:00,534 --> 00:52:02,429
- soft-core movies, right,
people had soft-core movies,
919
00:52:02,453 --> 00:52:03,818
- let's cut in hardcore footage.
920
00:52:04,038 --> 00:52:09,949
They'd cut from this film of this guy
pretending to fuck this girl, soft-core,
921
00:52:10,169 --> 00:52:14,791
- and they'd cut in me fucking the
girl, so you get a little in and out.
922
00:52:15,007 --> 00:52:18,499
I did five one day,
inserts and cum shots.
923
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:21,632
Every time you came, they
gave you another fucking $50.
924
00:52:21,847 --> 00:52:26,174
And I don't know why they wanted the
fourth and fifth one 'cause it was blanks.
925
00:52:26,393 --> 00:52:30,974
He just had a way about him
that was '80s charismatic.
926
00:52:31,190 --> 00:52:33,190
I would say he's like
the Clint Eastwood of porn.
927
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:36,017
You just wanted to,
to please him.
928
00:52:36,236 --> 00:52:41,022
He had swag and he was sexy,
and he was, he was like a ladies man.
929
00:52:41,241 --> 00:52:46,244
And I feel like women wanted him,
and men kind of wanted to be him.
930
00:52:46,455 --> 00:52:49,413
Did I give you enough dick?
Huh?
931
00:52:49,625 --> 00:52:50,956
I give you enough dick?
932
00:52:51,210 --> 00:52:55,911
He was the original guy to talk dirty
to girls to get where he wanted to get.
933
00:52:56,131 --> 00:52:59,544
I bet the police get in your
pants all the time, huh?
934
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:02,923
But you gotta watch those cops.
They'll fuck you to death.
935
00:53:03,138 --> 00:53:07,097
- You ever been fucked in the ass before?
- Mm-mm.
936
00:53:07,309 --> 00:53:09,971
- Are you curious what it's about?
- Mm.
937
00:53:10,187 --> 00:53:13,271
It was, it was fun, it was mostly
fun because we were best friends.
938
00:53:13,482 --> 00:53:16,899
The last two weeks he was alive,
he was hanging at joey's,
939
00:53:17,111 --> 00:53:20,604
- and, uh, they just
understood each other.
940
00:53:20,823 --> 00:53:23,780
Well, to be honest,
I wish john was even more,
941
00:53:23,992 --> 00:53:25,778
- uh, had more of
an impact than he was.
942
00:53:25,994 --> 00:53:32,123
That's a big problem with this business is that
when you are gone in this business, you are gone.
943
00:53:36,755 --> 00:53:43,088
I mean, anybody that can do ten
pages of script, four costume changes,
944
00:53:43,303 --> 00:53:49,257
- and three sex scenes in a ten-hour day,
you know, goes to the top of the list.
945
00:53:49,476 --> 00:53:51,454
- Oh, yeah, fuck her.
- No, I don't think I will.
946
00:53:51,478 --> 00:53:53,685
Oh, fuck her like
you fuck me, Nick.
947
00:53:53,897 --> 00:53:57,310
Making films was a lot
different then, and it was huge.
948
00:53:57,526 --> 00:54:01,651
Like we would have big red carpet
premieres, and you would go into a theater.
949
00:54:01,864 --> 00:54:05,523
And if it was a good movie, you
could run six weeks, two months,
950
00:54:05,743 --> 00:54:11,370
- playing the same movie at a
theater. I thought, wow. I could act.
951
00:54:11,582 --> 00:54:13,539
All my friends from
college weren't acting.
952
00:54:13,751 --> 00:54:16,163
I could get paid for it,
and I could have sex.
953
00:54:16,378 --> 00:54:18,164
It was like, oh, yeah.
954
00:54:18,380 --> 00:54:20,462
You always carry around
girl's underpants?
955
00:54:20,674 --> 00:54:21,914
Yeah, I collect them.
956
00:54:22,134 --> 00:54:23,966
Maybe I can give you
some of mine sometime.
957
00:54:24,178 --> 00:54:27,091
Veronica came across
as more intelligent.
958
00:54:27,306 --> 00:54:33,385
She came across as more capable,
and her scenes came off as very genuine.
959
00:54:33,604 --> 00:54:36,773
One of the most favorite roles that
I've ever had was in "Amanda by Night."
960
00:54:36,857 --> 00:54:39,770
Can you fucking believe that?
961
00:54:39,985 --> 00:54:42,192
Oh, no, no.
962
00:54:42,404 --> 00:54:45,654
Another reason why I really liked that
movie is I actually won best actress.
963
00:54:45,866 --> 00:54:48,028
Now if I could ask you a question.
964
00:54:48,243 --> 00:54:50,075
Why did your last
coordinator leave?
965
00:54:50,287 --> 00:54:52,015
She wasn't putting out,
uh, she wasn't putting out-
966
00:54:52,039 --> 00:54:53,433
- the kinds of results
that we were looking for.
967
00:54:53,457 --> 00:54:55,039
Mm-hmm.
968
00:54:56,543 --> 00:55:00,252
You do have, uh,
quite an employment history.
969
00:55:00,464 --> 00:55:01,900
"Wanda Whips Wall Street."
970
00:55:01,924 --> 00:55:03,540
What a fun movie that was.
971
00:55:03,759 --> 00:55:06,421
They actually made
a straight film out of it-
972
00:55:06,637 --> 00:55:09,095
- called "Stocks and Blondes."
We went back and re-shot.
973
00:55:09,306 --> 00:55:13,174
You know, Lester, I don't usually
go out with men from the office,
974
00:55:13,393 --> 00:55:15,805
- but seeing as you're from
Tyler's Cleveland branch,
975
00:55:16,021 --> 00:55:18,137
- I thought I'd make an exception.
976
00:55:18,357 --> 00:55:24,985
Veronica became the quintessential
sex goddess, and the actress.
977
00:55:25,197 --> 00:55:29,065
And she was still managed
to maintain the feeling-
978
00:55:29,284 --> 00:55:32,072
- that she was your girlfriend
or the friend of your sister's.
979
00:55:32,287 --> 00:55:37,823
I did 13 movies one year, and they
told me I had ruined my career.
980
00:55:38,043 --> 00:55:41,536
And what it did, it just
made me more well known.
981
00:55:41,755 --> 00:55:43,792
People have a lot to say
about this business,
982
00:55:44,007 --> 00:55:47,212
- but where else can a
female do so many things?
983
00:55:47,427 --> 00:55:49,197
I mean, I've done about
everything in the business.
984
00:55:49,221 --> 00:55:51,132
I was able to act,
I was able to direct,
985
00:55:51,348 --> 00:55:55,345
- I could produce, I'd been a stylist,
I'm still a production manager.
986
00:55:55,561 --> 00:55:58,228
Where else? I know the straight
business wouldn't afford me that.
987
00:55:58,313 --> 00:56:05,772
In a career sense, good actress,
sexy gal, somebody that you could, uh,
988
00:56:05,988 --> 00:56:08,400
- jerk off to and not feel bad about,
989
00:56:08,615 --> 00:56:11,357
- but made you feel good about
being a sexual human being-
990
00:56:12,995 --> 00:56:16,950
And who really wanted to connect,
and really wanted to spread love.
991
00:56:18,876 --> 00:56:22,460
Jamie was absolutely
the icon of all time.
992
00:56:22,671 --> 00:56:27,790
And he's one of the pioneers of modern
pornography, a complete and total deviant.
993
00:56:28,010 --> 00:56:32,720
Creepy, dirty, nasty, sexy behavior.
994
00:56:32,931 --> 00:56:36,674
He was able somehow to,
to make it classy.
995
00:56:40,147 --> 00:56:43,139
Happened pretty quickly,
because once I started working,
996
00:56:43,358 --> 00:56:47,685
- uh, it was like an avalanche after
about a year, you know, maybe a year.
997
00:56:47,905 --> 00:56:50,216
It was like all of a sudden, I
was the guy, you know, that,
998
00:56:50,240 --> 00:56:55,068
- I mean, there was one point in new york where
I counted 14 of my films playing in one day.
999
00:56:55,287 --> 00:57:00,452
It's amazing to me that somebody
who is famous in the end-
1000
00:57:00,626 --> 00:57:05,791
- for showing the raw, real side of
their sexuality is also an amazing actor.
1001
00:57:06,006 --> 00:57:10,591
You know, you pulled off quite a neat
little trick with that fantasy of yours.
1002
00:57:10,802 --> 00:57:13,590
- Does that feel good?
- Yeah, it's just sex.
1003
00:57:13,805 --> 00:57:15,139
I am pretty dirty,
though, girls.
1004
00:57:15,349 --> 00:57:16,680
You'll have to work hard.
1005
00:57:16,892 --> 00:57:18,508
Repent!
1006
00:57:18,727 --> 00:57:20,513
You must repent!
1007
00:57:20,729 --> 00:57:22,345
God!
Please forgive me!
1008
00:57:22,564 --> 00:57:24,667
To me, sex was a big drug,
if you want to call it that.
1009
00:57:24,691 --> 00:57:26,352
I was really interested in the sex.
1010
00:57:26,568 --> 00:57:31,315
The idea that people were getting,
drinking or taking pills to, to, you know,
1011
00:57:31,531 --> 00:57:35,261
- forget the experience they were having on the
set, you know, or maybe they felt bad about it.
1012
00:57:35,285 --> 00:57:36,660
I don't know
what they were doing.
1013
00:57:36,787 --> 00:57:38,139
To me it didn't,
it didn't make any sense to me.
1014
00:57:38,163 --> 00:57:41,406
You know, I was really after the,
the piece of ass I was gonna fuck.
1015
00:57:41,625 --> 00:57:43,957
Men, women, I don't
think it mattered to him.
1016
00:57:44,169 --> 00:57:46,661
Jamie Gillis may have said
at times that he was bisexual,
1017
00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:50,502
- but I think the only label you
could put on Jamie Gillis is pervert.
1018
00:57:50,717 --> 00:57:55,837
Jamie, um, Gillis would not fly.
1019
00:57:56,056 --> 00:58:01,550
I remember it was on a TWA flight,
and we're gonna take off,
1020
00:58:01,770 --> 00:58:04,762
- and Jamie tells me that he
has a tremendous fear of flying.
1021
00:58:04,982 --> 00:58:07,440
And then he reaches down,
he pulls out a baggie-
1022
00:58:07,651 --> 00:58:11,269
- that's got panties in it and he says,
this is for my black, black ore.
1023
00:58:11,488 --> 00:58:13,091
The plane starts
rolling down the runway.
1024
00:58:13,115 --> 00:58:17,150
Jamie opens up the bag, and he starts,
he starts huffing on it, the bag,
1025
00:58:17,369 --> 00:58:21,453
- and the smell from the bag was so
horrendous and so putrid, it was insane.
1026
00:58:21,665 --> 00:58:23,059
I mean, that was Jamie.
He was a pervert,
1027
00:58:23,083 --> 00:58:25,520
- so sniffing the panties, that
was like crack cocaine to him.
1028
00:58:25,544 --> 00:58:30,208
"Dracula Sucks," that was
the role he was meant to play.
1029
00:58:30,424 --> 00:58:34,509
The blood is the life-
1030
00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:38,675
- there are far worse things
awaiting man than death.
1031
00:58:38,890 --> 00:58:43,967
In my heyday, I was maybe working
maybe one or two days a week.
1032
00:58:44,187 --> 00:58:46,021
The rest of the time,
I was just hanging out,
1033
00:58:46,106 --> 00:58:48,313
- you know, and I was
making enough money-
1034
00:58:48,525 --> 00:58:50,107
- and I wasn't even,
what was that?
1035
00:58:50,318 --> 00:58:51,353
You call that work?
1036
00:58:51,570 --> 00:58:53,006
You know, a garbage man,
that's work.
1037
00:58:53,030 --> 00:58:55,237
And to have a career
that lasts that long,
1038
00:58:55,449 --> 00:58:57,440
- to be so innovative,
and to really express-
1039
00:58:57,659 --> 00:59:02,532
- who you truly are as a sexual
being to me is something to be envied.
1040
00:59:10,505 --> 00:59:13,507
Annette definitely looked like she
would be in the mainstream movies.
1041
00:59:13,717 --> 00:59:16,301
She definitely did not look like
she was in the adult industry.
1042
00:59:16,470 --> 00:59:18,179
She could've been
a Victoria secret model.
1043
00:59:18,388 --> 00:59:20,846
She was just so fetching
and a wonderful actress-
1044
00:59:21,058 --> 00:59:24,221
- and serious as a heart attack
and a great businesswoman.
1045
00:59:24,436 --> 00:59:28,100
The most amazing thing for
me about Annette haven-
1046
00:59:28,315 --> 00:59:33,650
- is, um, not just like how beautiful she
is, but also how kind of innocent she is.
1047
00:59:33,862 --> 00:59:41,067
She combined like this very ethereal
personality, look, and so forth with the sex.
1048
00:59:41,286 --> 00:59:45,029
And, uh, she was
one of the first where,
1049
00:59:45,248 --> 00:59:47,956
- where her name became,
you know, a name.
1050
00:59:48,168 --> 00:59:50,660
I wasn't aware of
how popular I was.
1051
00:59:50,879 --> 00:59:52,213
I have never been aware of that.
1052
00:59:52,380 --> 00:59:54,997
I've never been aware
of how beautiful I am.
1053
00:59:55,217 --> 01:00:01,178
I remember being in la. In the summer
of '77, and "desires within young girls"-
1054
01:00:01,389 --> 01:00:04,767
- making more money at the box
office than over half of Hollywood.
1055
01:00:04,810 --> 01:00:06,266
I was in slot 14.
1056
01:00:06,478 --> 01:00:09,391
Mel Brooks' "Young
Frankenstein" was in slot 17.
1057
01:00:14,986 --> 01:00:19,897
Annette, uh, was always perceived
as a feminist, and she still is.
1058
01:00:20,117 --> 01:00:24,197
As far as I know, I am the
only person in adult films-
1059
01:00:24,412 --> 01:00:27,279
- who did not do any
of the degrading acts.
1060
01:00:27,499 --> 01:00:30,617
The facial ejaculation,
because I don't want-
1061
01:00:30,836 --> 01:00:34,878
- that represented to the
American public as adult sexuality.
1062
01:00:35,090 --> 01:00:37,132
You know what's interesting
about Annette is that-
1063
01:00:37,300 --> 01:00:39,009
- you would almost
kind of not expect her-
1064
01:00:39,219 --> 01:00:41,836
- to be a very good actress
just based off of the fact-
1065
01:00:42,055 --> 01:00:44,262
- that she didn't have
an acting background.
1066
01:00:44,474 --> 01:00:46,556
But she is so good.
1067
01:00:46,768 --> 01:00:48,102
You said you'd give me a chance.
1068
01:00:48,311 --> 01:00:49,580
Aren't you forgetting something?
1069
01:00:49,604 --> 01:00:51,595
"Sports Life" is a man's magazine.
1070
01:00:51,815 --> 01:00:53,101
But that's just it, you see,
1071
01:00:53,316 --> 01:00:54,983
- we get all the
women's readership, too.
1072
01:00:55,026 --> 01:00:56,812
Finding people who could speak,
1073
01:00:57,028 --> 01:00:59,736
- who were beautiful,
who had beautiful bodies,
1074
01:00:59,948 --> 01:01:02,073
- blah, blah, blah,
it was a bit difficult, I guess.
1075
01:01:08,039 --> 01:01:09,905
Blake Edwards approached me for "10."
1076
01:01:10,125 --> 01:01:14,122
Blake was very nice, and
invited me down to Hollywood.
1077
01:01:14,337 --> 01:01:17,375
He said, can you get me people
who are naked? And I said, oh, yeah.
1078
01:01:17,591 --> 01:01:22,255
So I was the casting agent, and the
production manager for the party scene.
1079
01:01:22,470 --> 01:01:26,763
There was something, uh,
just wonderful to watch-
1080
01:01:26,975 --> 01:01:29,842
- Annette Haven on film having sex.
1081
01:01:30,061 --> 01:01:32,415
We all have to pretend, what,
our mommies didn't have sex.
1082
01:01:32,439 --> 01:01:34,931
Every last one of
our mommies had sex.
1083
01:01:35,150 --> 01:01:37,391
Hopefully they enjoyed it.
1084
01:01:39,070 --> 01:01:40,560
I want you to
let me see your tits.
1085
01:01:45,493 --> 01:01:47,430
How and when did I
meet Richard Pacheco?
1086
01:01:47,454 --> 01:01:51,197
I think it was some
point in the early '80$.
1087
01:01:51,416 --> 01:01:55,211
When he said that he was writing a book,
he said, will you write the forward?
1088
01:01:55,253 --> 01:01:57,671
And I said I would.
He is family.
1089
01:01:57,714 --> 01:01:59,421
He's a nice Jewish boy.
1090
01:01:59,633 --> 01:02:01,217
You could take him
home to mom I think.
1091
01:02:01,384 --> 01:02:07,095
I had plans of becoming a rabbi,
and they happened at the same time,
1092
01:02:07,307 --> 01:02:09,548
- uh, I had my first offer
to be in a porn film.
1093
01:02:09,768 --> 01:02:10,974
So I had a decision to make.
1094
01:02:11,186 --> 01:02:16,604
Richard's motivation was to be an actor,
uh, much more than a, a sex performer.
1095
01:02:16,816 --> 01:02:22,899
By far, Richard Pacheco is the
greatest male actor in adult film history.
1096
01:02:23,114 --> 01:02:27,532
Cupid, draw back your bow,
and let your arrow-
1097
01:02:27,744 --> 01:02:30,406
- go straight to my
lover's heart for me.
1098
01:02:30,622 --> 01:02:33,990
When I met him,
I was kind of freaked out-
1099
01:02:34,167 --> 01:02:40,420
- because my mom and I enjoyed
"Playgirl" magazine, and we had his pinup.
1100
01:02:40,632 --> 01:02:44,629
In the 1980s, if Hollywood
didn't put a scarlet letter-
1101
01:02:44,844 --> 01:02:47,971
- around the adult industry, he
would have been the first actor-
1102
01:02:48,014 --> 01:02:51,392
- to cross over and actually do
adult, and then do mainstream films,
1103
01:02:51,476 --> 01:02:52,716
- like James Deen does now.
1104
01:02:52,936 --> 01:02:57,263
Richard Pacheco won best supporting
actor, for "nothing to hide," uh,
1105
01:02:57,482 --> 01:03:00,190
- because he portrayed
somebody that was, uh, slow.
1106
01:03:00,402 --> 01:03:03,820
But he was really sweet, too, and
it was a very romantic little storyline.
1107
01:03:04,030 --> 01:03:05,361
I love her.
1108
01:03:05,573 --> 01:03:07,385
Well, I love Miss Fernstein
the landlord, too.
1109
01:03:07,409 --> 01:03:09,326
That doesn't mean I'm
gonna marry her, does it?
1110
01:03:09,452 --> 01:03:10,680
It's not the same thing,
jack, and you know it.
1111
01:03:10,704 --> 01:03:12,411
Fuck love, man!
What are you, a sucker?
1112
01:03:12,622 --> 01:03:15,705
"Irresistible" was
“Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure."
1113
01:03:15,875 --> 01:03:17,334
They must have
taken cues from that.
1114
01:03:17,502 --> 01:03:20,415
There were so many
different parallels with that.
1115
01:03:20,630 --> 01:03:22,416
What province are you from?
1116
01:03:22,632 --> 01:03:25,124
You probably haven't heard of it.
1117
01:03:25,343 --> 01:03:26,708
It's called Marin county.
1118
01:03:28,888 --> 01:03:30,950
They gave me Best Actor
and Best Supporting Actor.
1119
01:03:30,974 --> 01:03:32,590
And, wow.
Wow.
1120
01:03:32,809 --> 01:03:34,299
Thank you, Jesus.
That was a coup.
1121
01:03:34,519 --> 01:03:39,013
It's ironic that
porn-stars were discredited-
1122
01:03:39,232 --> 01:03:42,683
- because they were fucking,
'cause you can't fake fucking.
1123
01:03:42,902 --> 01:03:47,063
You really got to be there, and
that's a tremendous achievement-
1124
01:03:47,282 --> 01:03:49,819
- to get yourself real
enough to be able to do that.
1125
01:03:50,035 --> 01:03:52,777
Do I think he would've
made it as a straight actor?
1126
01:03:52,996 --> 01:03:54,862
Probably, you know,
'cause he's really good.
1127
01:03:55,081 --> 01:03:56,321
He knows how to improvise.
1128
01:03:56,541 --> 01:03:58,000
He knows how to
be a straight actor.
1129
01:03:58,084 --> 01:03:59,415
He knows these things.
1130
01:03:59,627 --> 01:04:01,586
I think that's what makes
him one of the greats.
1131
01:04:03,131 --> 01:04:05,247
Some adult stars
gain even greater fame-
1132
01:04:05,467 --> 01:04:08,505
- by crossing over into
mainstream entertainment.
1133
01:04:08,720 --> 01:04:11,963
Sometimes a scandal
worked in their favor.
1134
01:04:12,182 --> 01:04:16,008
Other times, great marketing,
or an inherently irresistible appeal-
1135
01:04:16,227 --> 01:04:21,097
- bridged the gap between sex
stardom, and pop culture acclaim.
1136
01:04:21,316 --> 01:04:24,058
These stars blasted
right through barriers-
1137
01:04:24,277 --> 01:04:28,277
- separating the adult business
from big time show business.
1138
01:04:35,622 --> 01:04:38,656
Of those big three, Linda
Lovelace, Georgina Spelvin,
1139
01:04:38,875 --> 01:04:41,833
- Marilyn Chambers,
Marilyn clearly stands out.
1140
01:04:42,045 --> 01:04:43,331
The camera loved her.
1141
01:04:43,546 --> 01:04:47,547
But she had this girl next
door like innocent look-
1142
01:04:47,759 --> 01:04:50,467
- that not many girls
in porn back then had.
1143
01:04:50,678 --> 01:04:53,636
Well, I answered an ad in the
San Francisco "Chronicle"-
1144
01:04:53,848 --> 01:04:57,261
- that said, now casting
for a major motion picture.
1145
01:04:57,477 --> 01:05:00,344
I thought, oh, this is a
little bit too naughty for me.
1146
01:05:00,563 --> 01:05:03,726
She thought that if she
did a good job in this movie-
1147
01:05:03,942 --> 01:05:06,684
- it would lead to a lot
of mainstream roles for her-
1148
01:05:06,903 --> 01:05:08,860
- because it would
show that she could act.
1149
01:05:09,072 --> 01:05:11,780
But also, the amount of money
they were offering was like, mm.
1150
01:05:11,991 --> 01:05:14,278
You know, they're like
we really like your look.
1151
01:05:14,494 --> 01:05:15,950
Just sit down and talk with us.
1152
01:05:16,162 --> 01:05:19,121
And so she actually negotiated with
them, and said that she would do it,
1153
01:05:19,207 --> 01:05:21,824
- but only under the circumstances
1154
01:05:22,043 --> 01:05:25,035
- that they give her, um, ten
percent of the film's gross revenue,
1155
01:05:25,255 --> 01:05:28,373
- which is huge,
you know, like that's insane.
1156
01:05:28,591 --> 01:05:30,903
And I said I don't really wanna
know what's gonna happen.
1157
01:05:30,927 --> 01:05:33,134
I know it's gonna
be wild and sexy,
1158
01:05:33,346 --> 01:05:37,840
- and it's gonna be scary probably for me
at certain times, but I don't wanna know.
1159
01:05:38,059 --> 01:05:42,310
When we started to have sex, it was the kind
of thing where I was like totally freaked out.
1160
01:05:42,522 --> 01:05:44,125
I didn't think I was gonna
be able to do this one.
1161
01:05:44,149 --> 01:05:48,938
Then it, there was a moment where
it turned from terror, hah, to pleasure,
1162
01:05:49,154 --> 01:05:51,896
- and I really believe you can see that.
1163
01:05:52,115 --> 01:05:55,483
The controversy between me
being on the ivory soap box,
1164
01:05:55,702 --> 01:05:56,908
- it was a pr man's dream.
1165
01:05:57,120 --> 01:06:00,307
It just happened to be the very same week that
"Behind the Green Door" opened in the theaters.
1166
01:06:00,331 --> 01:06:03,119
So it was just, thank you.
1167
01:06:03,334 --> 01:06:05,701
And Procter & Gamble
wasn't real happy about it.
1168
01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:09,663
My favorite scene is the
pool table scene in "Insatiable."
1169
01:06:09,883 --> 01:06:11,465
I could tell that
it was a hot scene-
1170
01:06:11,676 --> 01:06:15,006
- because when the crew applauds
you, you know that it's good.
1171
01:06:20,477 --> 01:06:24,596
"Insatiable" was one of those
quintessential movies.
1172
01:06:24,814 --> 01:06:29,850
Rich girl who is a model, and
she just had this sexual appetite-
1173
01:06:30,069 --> 01:06:32,026
- that nobody could satisfy.
1174
01:06:32,238 --> 01:06:37,608
I devote myself to all men,
and a lot of women.
1175
01:06:37,827 --> 01:06:39,363
She wrote a song for it,
1176
01:06:39,579 --> 01:06:42,821
- for the movie she did, "Insatiable,"
and she actually sang it.
1177
01:06:43,041 --> 01:06:45,123
It's the song that
plays behind the titles.
1178
01:06:45,335 --> 01:06:47,292
She did some
modeling beyond that.
1179
01:06:47,504 --> 01:06:50,628
She even did dinner theater
in Las Vegas, for about a year.
1180
01:06:50,840 --> 01:06:55,462
Believe it or not, the mayor of Las
Vegas gave her the key to the city.
1181
01:06:55,678 --> 01:06:59,262
I don't know what it used to be like to hire
an adult actor in a mainstream type movie.
1182
01:06:59,307 --> 01:07:00,784
I don't know if that was a big
stigma that people had to get over.
1183
01:07:00,808 --> 01:07:02,219
I assume it must have been.
1184
01:07:02,435 --> 01:07:05,852
The biggest one I remember is when
Marilyn Chambers was in Cronenberg's film.
1185
01:07:06,064 --> 01:07:09,397
And he cast her as the
lead in his movie "Rabid."
1186
01:07:09,609 --> 01:07:11,316
You gotta come quick.
1187
01:07:11,528 --> 01:07:13,064
You gotta come quick and get me.
1188
01:07:13,279 --> 01:07:15,520
And of course that had
never happened before.
1189
01:07:15,740 --> 01:07:19,069
This was the first time someone
who had been a porn-star,
1190
01:07:19,285 --> 01:07:23,365
- who was well known as a porn-star
was cast in a major mainstream movie.
1191
01:07:23,581 --> 01:07:25,184
Being Marilyn Chambers
has always been kind of,
1192
01:07:25,208 --> 01:07:29,961
- not a facade, because I've always believed
that you have to be that person 24 hours a day.
1193
01:07:30,046 --> 01:07:33,830
You have to really believe in what you're
doing, which I have, and I've had a lot of fun.
1194
01:07:34,050 --> 01:07:36,007
But now that I have a daughter.
1195
01:07:36,219 --> 01:07:40,420
Learning all of that was kind of
scary at first, because like I said,
1196
01:07:40,640 --> 01:07:43,007
- my mom is my mom,
not Marilyn chambers to me.
1197
01:07:43,226 --> 01:07:44,842
So knowing everything
that she's done-
1198
01:07:45,061 --> 01:07:48,304
- and my friends knowing
the things that she's done,
1199
01:07:48,523 --> 01:07:50,855
- um, is was pretty
hard to get used to.
1200
01:07:51,067 --> 01:07:53,855
But there were some funny times
where I'd see her name on HBO-
1201
01:07:54,070 --> 01:07:55,631
- and she'd come running out
and say like, close your eyes.
1202
01:07:55,655 --> 01:07:57,020
Don't watch that.
1203
01:07:57,240 --> 01:07:59,607
I just don't want her
to follow in my footsteps.
1204
01:07:59,826 --> 01:08:04,653
In the end like I'm just so proud of her, and
she knew that, so that was my only concern.
1205
01:08:04,872 --> 01:08:09,200
I'm not gonna say that I created porno
chic, but I know that I was part of it.
1206
01:08:09,419 --> 01:08:11,461
And that was a very
important time in our history-
1207
01:08:11,504 --> 01:08:13,754
- where people like Johnny
Carson were waiting in line-
1208
01:08:13,965 --> 01:08:16,049
- to see “Deep Throat" and
"Behind the Green Door."
1209
01:08:16,134 --> 01:08:18,922
And I truly believe
that it's not educational,
1210
01:08:19,137 --> 01:08:24,052
- but it certainly can be very helpful
in kind of helping your sex life.
1211
01:08:24,267 --> 01:08:26,008
It helped mine.
1212
01:08:31,774 --> 01:08:35,733
He's not, you know, sort of
like the hulking male porn-star.
1213
01:08:35,945 --> 01:08:40,443
Of the '90s with like the, you know, like
thong tan lines and stuff like huge pecs.
1214
01:08:40,658 --> 01:08:46,160
And he's just this guy, the kind of guy that
you would have a crush on in chemistry class.
1215
01:08:46,372 --> 01:08:47,453
That's him.
1216
01:08:47,665 --> 01:08:49,952
He's the Justin Bieber of porn.
1217
01:08:56,633 --> 01:08:59,069
So my whole life is I wanna do porn,
I wanna do porn, I wanna do porn.
1218
01:08:59,093 --> 01:09:05,051
It wasn't a new thing when I turned
18 to, you know, tell my parents.
1219
01:09:05,266 --> 01:09:07,016
So once I explained
all this to my parents,
1220
01:09:07,226 --> 01:09:08,746
- and then also reminded
them that I still have my money-
1221
01:09:08,770 --> 01:09:10,104
- from when I got bar mitzvahed.
1222
01:09:10,313 --> 01:09:13,563
Like I, I'm not the type of guy who's
gonna think, oh, I made a bunch of money.
1223
01:09:13,608 --> 01:09:17,313
I'm gonna go buy a Ferrari and a solid
gold house, and like get a rocket car.
1224
01:09:17,528 --> 01:09:18,589
That's also a "Simpson's" reference.
1225
01:09:18,613 --> 01:09:21,813
I met James when he was,
I believe he was 18 years old.
1226
01:09:22,033 --> 01:09:23,489
I mean, he was just good.
1227
01:09:23,701 --> 01:09:25,346
I mean, we went through
the entire scene,
1228
01:09:25,370 --> 01:09:27,264
- and then he popped,
and I was like, oh, shit.
1229
01:09:27,288 --> 01:09:28,891
We've got to go
through and do the stills.
1230
01:09:28,915 --> 01:09:30,059
And he was like: "That's cool.
1231
01:09:30,083 --> 01:09:31,539
I'm young and spry.
1232
01:09:31,751 --> 01:09:33,037
I can get some more out."
1233
01:09:33,252 --> 01:09:36,665
So... and he did,
which was outstanding.
1234
01:09:41,469 --> 01:09:45,115
In 2009, I became the youngest person
to ever win male performer of the year-
1235
01:09:45,139 --> 01:09:47,096
- from AVN, which is
a very prestigious award.
1236
01:09:47,308 --> 01:09:48,924
All: James Deen.
1237
01:09:51,396 --> 01:09:56,105
I had a panic attack, ran and hid, and my
girlfriend at the time accepted the award for me.
1238
01:09:56,317 --> 01:09:58,604
James, where the fuck are you?
1239
01:09:58,820 --> 01:10:01,278
I have heard of the Deen-agers.
1240
01:10:01,489 --> 01:10:03,651
Deen-agers is invented
by Dana Dearmond.
1241
01:10:03,866 --> 01:10:07,160
She was the one who coined that term,
so let's give credit where credit is due.
1242
01:10:07,203 --> 01:10:09,490
Because he's such a relatable guy,
1243
01:10:09,706 --> 01:10:13,698
- and he's young enough for, you know,
young girls to be attracted to him.
1244
01:10:13,918 --> 01:10:16,897
What's funny to be me is there are
scenes that I've done with him-
1245
01:10:16,921 --> 01:10:20,834
- and I'll get tagged because he's in the
scene, and the Deen-agers love James Deen,
1246
01:10:21,050 --> 01:10:23,542
- and I just happened to be
an extra body in the room.
1247
01:10:23,761 --> 01:10:29,506
I feel like people are trying to create
more of that "Boy and Girl Next Door" look.
1248
01:10:29,726 --> 01:10:33,267
But when I first started in 2004,
it was all about performance.
1249
01:10:33,479 --> 01:10:35,146
It had nothing to do with guys or props.
1250
01:10:35,273 --> 01:10:37,685
We don't care what
you look like, you know.
1251
01:10:37,900 --> 01:10:39,561
Like why the hell,
who's looking at you?
1252
01:10:39,777 --> 01:10:41,518
I have no desire to
do mainstream stuff.
1253
01:10:41,738 --> 01:10:43,945
"The Canyons"?
Hell, yeah.
1254
01:10:44,157 --> 01:10:46,908
You have Bret Easton Ellis,
who's an incredibly talented writer-
1255
01:10:46,993 --> 01:10:49,430
- and you have Paul Schrader
who's an incredibly talented director-
1256
01:10:49,454 --> 01:10:53,412
- and they were like so sick of the
standard Hollywood structure of, you know,
1257
01:10:53,624 --> 01:10:55,227
- all the stuff, and they
wanted to do a DIY film-
1258
01:10:55,251 --> 01:10:57,354
- that was just for the sake
of making a fucking film.
1259
01:10:57,378 --> 01:10:59,415
- Jealous?
- Yeah,
1260
01:10:59,630 --> 01:11:02,622
- if there are other people involved.
Like guys.
1261
01:11:02,842 --> 01:11:07,845
It's mostly girls, and, no, I do not get jealous
watching my girl hook up with another chick.
1262
01:11:07,889 --> 01:11:09,550
Is this guy for real?
Are you for real?
1263
01:11:09,766 --> 01:11:12,303
Which is the most
flattering thing in the world-
1264
01:11:12,518 --> 01:11:14,455
- that the guy that wrote "American
Psycho" and "Less Than Zero"-
1265
01:11:14,479 --> 01:11:16,220
- wrote a character for me.
1266
01:11:16,439 --> 01:11:21,433
I mean, sometimes these, these, you know, people
in adult will get like this sort of taste-
1267
01:11:21,652 --> 01:11:26,696
- of mainstream attention and decide that they're,
they're gonna move on and start this whole new life.
1268
01:11:26,908 --> 01:11:28,844
Adult films are not a
launching pad into mainstream.
1269
01:11:28,868 --> 01:11:30,404
It's just not.
1270
01:11:30,620 --> 01:11:33,703
I think there's this stigma
that people in adult films,
1271
01:11:33,915 --> 01:11:35,374
- they do this 'cause they have to-
1272
01:11:35,541 --> 01:11:37,227
- or they do this because
they have nothing else-
1273
01:11:37,251 --> 01:11:39,993
- or, or, and they forget
that we're performers,
1274
01:11:40,213 --> 01:11:44,207
- just like The Rock and Vin
Diesel are action performers.
1275
01:11:44,425 --> 01:11:48,293
Being famous in the
adult industry is useless.
1276
01:11:48,513 --> 01:11:50,845
Being a good performer
is what matters.
1277
01:11:59,165 --> 01:12:00,451
She was Vivid.
1278
01:12:00,625 --> 01:12:03,538
They signed her to be
the face of the company.
1279
01:12:03,753 --> 01:12:05,994
She was on every box cover.
1280
01:12:06,214 --> 01:12:10,549
Well, there was no such thing as a
contract girl until Ginger came along.
1281
01:12:10,760 --> 01:12:14,298
She is definitely a
matriarch in the business.
1282
01:12:14,514 --> 01:12:16,033
I think she's the
beautiful girl next door.
1283
01:12:16,057 --> 01:12:17,682
I do. I think she's
that girl next door-
1284
01:12:17,725 --> 01:12:19,703
- that you've had that crush
on for a really long time-
1285
01:12:19,727 --> 01:12:22,890
- and then all of a sudden just
kind of came into her own sexually.
1286
01:12:23,106 --> 01:12:27,106
And you definitely wanted to bang the shit
out of her, and she never had time for you.
1287
01:12:37,120 --> 01:12:40,454
I walked into, uh, Jim South's office.
He was my agent.
1288
01:12:40,665 --> 01:12:42,747
Uh, you don't have a portfolio?
1289
01:12:42,959 --> 01:12:45,200
Oh, no.
I had my shots in high school.
1290
01:12:45,420 --> 01:12:47,036
And I tell him,
okay, I'm gonna do it.
1291
01:12:47,255 --> 01:12:48,899
And I want this much money
and I want script approval-
1292
01:12:48,923 --> 01:12:51,026
- and I want cast approval.
He's on the floor rolling.
1293
01:12:51,050 --> 01:12:52,675
He said you're not
gonna start that way.
1294
01:12:53,887 --> 01:12:55,127
Lunch is served.
1295
01:12:56,806 --> 01:12:59,138
I got all my demands met,
and I started thinking,
1296
01:12:59,350 --> 01:13:01,637
- oh, my god.
What if I can't do this?
1297
01:13:05,899 --> 01:13:08,516
My very first film was
"Surrender in Paradise."
1298
01:13:08,735 --> 01:13:10,066
I was fine fucking on film.
1299
01:13:10,278 --> 01:13:12,394
Could not get the dialogue
to come out of my mouth.
1300
01:13:12,614 --> 01:13:15,151
We spent about
four hours trying to do it.
1301
01:13:15,366 --> 01:13:17,107
And I thought you
might be different.
1302
01:13:17,327 --> 01:13:20,656
Like all the other guys, get
what you want and chuck me out.
1303
01:13:20,872 --> 01:13:23,580
So Steven Hirsch was
starting vivid entertainment,
1304
01:13:23,791 --> 01:13:26,203
- actually at that time,
it was called vivid video,
1305
01:13:26,419 --> 01:13:31,004
- and they wanted me to be
the star of all of their first films.
1306
01:13:32,634 --> 01:13:35,468
Every day I would wake up and go,
yes! I'm gonna blow this guy today.
1307
01:13:35,637 --> 01:13:37,364
I'm gonna eat that pussy today.
I'm gonna do this.
1308
01:13:37,388 --> 01:13:38,799
And it was exciting for me.
1309
01:13:39,015 --> 01:13:41,757
If you stuck with it,
if you became a pro,
1310
01:13:41,976 --> 01:13:44,538
- hell, I don't think there's anybody
that could even come close to you.
1311
01:13:44,562 --> 01:13:46,098
Do I look okay?
1312
01:13:46,314 --> 01:13:47,349
You look great.
1313
01:13:52,612 --> 01:13:55,570
"New Wave Hookers"
was an amazing film.
1314
01:13:55,782 --> 01:13:58,615
Stick your tongue in up
my ass hole and lick it.
1315
01:14:01,204 --> 01:14:03,491
Girls next door didn't
do double penetration.
1316
01:14:03,706 --> 01:14:06,664
I was, I was the girl next door
who did all the dirty things.
1317
01:14:06,876 --> 01:14:09,334
I've done more mainstream
than I have adult at this point.
1318
01:14:09,546 --> 01:14:11,002
I need to pee!
1319
01:14:15,176 --> 01:14:17,292
- What about my hands?
- What about 'em?
1320
01:14:17,512 --> 01:14:19,054
- How am I gonna wipe?
- I'll help ya.
1321
01:14:19,180 --> 01:14:21,296
So I did "Vice Academy"
one, two, and three.
1322
01:14:21,516 --> 01:14:25,851
And each of you must make ten arrests
in order to get a position on the force.
1323
01:14:26,062 --> 01:14:29,346
My father says that my badge and
uniform are already waiting for me.
1324
01:14:29,566 --> 01:14:31,168
So I like hiring people
where they already-
1325
01:14:31,192 --> 01:14:34,275
- come with their weird
baggage of their career or life.
1326
01:14:34,487 --> 01:14:39,524
So as soon as they walk on screen, you
know, be it a Ginger Lynn or a Danny Trejo,
1327
01:14:39,742 --> 01:14:41,403
- you go, somethin's goin' on there.
1328
01:14:41,619 --> 01:14:44,361
She showed up on crutches,
which was kind of a surprise.
1329
01:14:44,581 --> 01:14:48,500
My introduction to Sid Haig was just being
plopped on on his dirty tighty whities.
1330
01:14:48,710 --> 01:14:51,293
- Yes, yes, yes.
- Come on, baby.
1331
01:14:51,504 --> 01:14:54,872
Oh, oh, oh, ride it, baby.
Ride it, ride it, ride it.
1332
01:14:55,091 --> 01:14:56,707
She started it all.
1333
01:14:56,926 --> 01:15:00,464
I mean, without her,
there could not have been
1334
01:15:00,680 --> 01:15:04,806
- strong names like Chasey Lain,
and Jenna Jameson.
1335
01:15:04,976 --> 01:15:06,341
She is the number one.
1336
01:15:06,561 --> 01:15:09,053
There are very
few women like her.
1337
01:15:09,272 --> 01:15:10,603
Do it!
1338
01:15:10,815 --> 01:15:13,273
Yeah.
1339
01:15:13,484 --> 01:15:14,484
Uh-huh.
1340
01:15:14,527 --> 01:15:15,813
Yeah.
1341
01:15:16,029 --> 01:15:18,111
Oh, slam it.
Slam that cunt for me.
1342
01:15:18,323 --> 01:15:19,438
Ugh! Yeah!
1343
01:15:19,657 --> 01:15:25,118
I felt like I could watch her,
and see the emotion-
1344
01:15:25,330 --> 01:15:27,412
- not just in her face,
but in her body.
1345
01:15:27,624 --> 01:15:29,956
Janine is super hot.
1346
01:15:30,168 --> 01:15:32,125
Like super hot,
like supermodel hot.
1347
01:15:32,337 --> 01:15:37,047
I asked my husband if he was okay
with it, and we agreed that women only.
1348
01:15:37,258 --> 01:15:40,216
She knew how to turn it on.
She'd been in front of audiences-
1349
01:15:40,428 --> 01:15:41,884
- for a long time as a dancer.
1350
01:15:42,096 --> 01:15:46,224
In blondage, they did their routine, it was
so hot, like I was completely turned on.
1351
01:15:47,977 --> 01:15:51,853
And then they go backstage,
and then they do their real scene-
1352
01:15:52,065 --> 01:15:55,811
- in the behind the scenes,
and I was like, yeah, yeah.
1353
01:16:03,660 --> 01:16:06,244
The drugs, the
alcohol involved with porn.
1354
01:16:06,371 --> 01:16:14,243
During that time, there was, and I would
partake, and it was not a pretty sight.
1355
01:16:14,462 --> 01:16:17,250
You will sink hard and fast
if you go down that road.
1356
01:16:17,465 --> 01:16:23,168
She is the person that made porn
feel not only super mainstream,
1357
01:16:23,388 --> 01:16:25,925
- but she was kind of
like the rockstar of porn.
1358
01:16:26,140 --> 01:16:27,175
Blink 182.
1359
01:16:27,392 --> 01:16:29,133
That has got to be my highlight.
1360
01:16:29,352 --> 01:16:30,968
It brought in the youth.
1361
01:16:31,187 --> 01:16:32,769
So the Vince Neil sex tape.
1362
01:16:32,980 --> 01:16:37,937
It was rough, because at this time,
I hadn't shot anything with men.
1363
01:16:38,152 --> 01:16:40,894
But, you know,
it was a shocker at first.
1364
01:16:41,114 --> 01:16:45,611
I find it interesting
that she comes back-
1365
01:16:45,827 --> 01:16:50,071
- as like this like
beast of a sexual woman.
1366
01:16:50,289 --> 01:16:51,289
She does dudes.
1367
01:16:51,457 --> 01:16:53,664
She does interracial.
1368
01:16:53,876 --> 01:16:56,368
Please?
Please please me.
1369
01:16:56,587 --> 01:16:57,879
Finally I said fuck it.
1370
01:16:58,089 --> 01:16:59,923
I'm gonna go for it,
and this is what I want.
1371
01:17:00,007 --> 01:17:01,714
These are my fantasies.
1372
01:17:01,926 --> 01:17:07,713
And that's when I think a lot of like the passionate
scenes that I had in "Pirates," you know...
1373
01:17:07,932 --> 01:17:11,934
Um, that intensity was
really starting to come out.
1374
01:17:16,899 --> 01:17:18,685
I wouldn't change a thing.
1375
01:17:18,901 --> 01:17:23,687
At the time, there was a lot of glamour
and a lot of fun, and a lot of camaraderie.
1376
01:17:23,906 --> 01:17:26,489
That was, that was a good time.
1377
01:17:26,701 --> 01:17:29,693
Yes, yes, yes, yes.
1378
01:17:29,912 --> 01:17:31,118
Oh, my god.
1379
01:17:31,330 --> 01:17:34,288
Fuck. Yes, yes.
1380
01:17:34,500 --> 01:17:36,353
I'd like to think I was political
before, and that was-
1381
01:17:36,377 --> 01:17:38,835
- a large part of my motivation
getting into the industry-
1382
01:17:39,046 --> 01:17:45,379
- was to disprove the status quo about
women, uh, and, and, and female sexuality.
1383
01:17:47,722 --> 01:17:51,514
The more I watched porn, the more I
realized that this is something I could do-
1384
01:17:51,684 --> 01:17:55,018
- and, and maybe I could bring
something different to it as well.
1385
01:17:56,522 --> 01:17:59,472
When Sasha Grey first contacted
me, this is what she wrote me.
1386
01:17:59,692 --> 01:18:02,309
"I hunger for all modes
of sexual perversity."
1387
01:18:02,528 --> 01:18:05,737
I'm determined and ready to be a commodity
that fulfills everyone's fantasies.
1388
01:18:05,865 --> 01:18:10,904
Available for solo, stills,
girl/girl, boy/girl, boy/boy/girl,
1389
01:18:11,120 --> 01:18:14,700
- DP, double vag,
interracial, throat gagging,
1390
01:18:14,916 --> 01:18:20,456
- creampies, BDSM, fetish, facials, "bachelor
parties, and groups of no more than four."
1391
01:18:20,671 --> 01:18:22,662
She's cool.
1392
01:18:22,882 --> 01:18:24,748
Sasha is, is deep.
1393
01:18:24,967 --> 01:18:28,092
We're remaking "Deep Throat,"
so I want to meet her.
1394
01:18:28,304 --> 01:18:30,136
The new "Deep Throat"
is a huge movie.
1395
01:18:30,348 --> 01:18:33,952
It's important. It's the biggest movie,
you know, this company has ever made.
1396
01:18:33,976 --> 01:18:40,146
It took us a long time to decide who
could really pull it off, and it's Sasha.
1397
01:18:40,358 --> 01:18:43,850
Steven Soderbergh looked her up,
and found the Myspace page.
1398
01:18:44,070 --> 01:18:45,481
Contacted her through that.
1399
01:18:45,696 --> 01:18:51,942
I didn't want anybody other than
Sasha, for "Girlfriend Experience."
1400
01:18:52,161 --> 01:18:54,027
Once I'd spoken to her,
1401
01:18:54,247 --> 01:18:56,784
- I really felt I wanted
to build it around her,
1402
01:18:56,999 --> 01:19:02,244
- and I sort of cast everybody else
based on what I was getting from her.
1403
01:19:02,463 --> 01:19:06,460
I'm very familiar with his work,
and it was flattering, to be honest,
1404
01:19:06,676 --> 01:19:08,792
- uh, but also
extremely intimidating.
1405
01:19:09,011 --> 01:19:11,002
He's an incredibly
intelligent human being.
1406
01:19:11,222 --> 01:19:16,220
I found this, it's kind of a really
interesting dichotomy with her of, of-
1407
01:19:16,435 --> 01:19:22,814
- middle American upbringing, and sort
of extreme interest and extreme behavior.
1408
01:19:23,025 --> 01:19:26,897
Whatever method she found
of reconciling these two things,
1409
01:19:27,113 --> 01:19:29,480
- seemed to be working for her.
1410
01:19:29,699 --> 01:19:33,608
He told me it would be mostly improv,
and wanted me to be comfortable with that.
1411
01:19:33,828 --> 01:19:35,318
So how did it go?
1412
01:19:35,538 --> 01:19:38,656
It was fine.
We had a nice dinner.
1413
01:19:40,084 --> 01:19:42,451
You know,
went back to the hotel.
1414
01:19:42,670 --> 01:19:48,336
But he's very well-endowed, and sometimes
I just can't handle him that long.
1415
01:19:48,551 --> 01:19:55,464
The change, I think, largely via the internet
about people's attitudes about pornography
1416
01:19:55,683 --> 01:20:01,352
- or just, just sex videos in general has
just completely shifted in the last ten years.
1417
01:20:01,564 --> 01:20:08,147
Making that leap from doing hardcore
porn to shooting mainstream movies
1418
01:20:08,362 --> 01:20:13,277
- with very well known people
is, is almost impossible.
1419
01:20:13,492 --> 01:20:15,824
She was like Garbo-esque.
1420
01:20:16,037 --> 01:20:19,867
So I said, well, if this is any time to take
the jump, this is it, and I did it quietly.
1421
01:20:20,082 --> 01:20:21,493
It wasn't this big announcement.
1422
01:20:21,709 --> 01:20:23,996
I'm not leaving anything behind.
I haven't found Jesus.
1423
01:20:24,211 --> 01:20:27,124
I'm not trying to run away from
anything. I'm just moving on.
1424
01:20:27,340 --> 01:20:28,924
What made her a great porn-star?
1425
01:20:29,050 --> 01:20:33,259
Besides the fact that she was really
good looking, she was a pervert,
1426
01:20:33,471 --> 01:20:36,880
- and nobody could bullshit her,
because she was like usually smarter-
1427
01:20:37,099 --> 01:20:38,683
- than most of the
people shooting her.
1428
01:20:40,603 --> 01:20:43,061
Some names are bigger than others.
1429
01:20:43,272 --> 01:20:48,103
And the top two greatest adult stars
of all time share one thing in common,
1430
01:20:48,319 --> 01:20:50,686
- they're erotic icons.
1431
01:20:50,905 --> 01:20:53,488
They check every box
for what makes a legend.
1432
01:20:53,699 --> 01:20:55,315
Longevity?
Check.
1433
01:20:55,534 --> 01:20:58,492
Mainstream popularity?
Double check.
1434
01:20:58,704 --> 01:21:00,945
Sexual prowess?
Check.
1435
01:21:01,165 --> 01:21:02,371
Looks?
1436
01:21:02,583 --> 01:21:06,250
Well, women of the '70s and '80s
found him very handsome,
1437
01:21:06,462 --> 01:21:09,079
- and men still drool over her.
1438
01:21:09,298 --> 01:21:12,878
There are no two bigger names
in the history of adult cinema
1439
01:21:13,094 --> 01:21:17,963
- than our greatest male and
female adult stars of all time.
1440
01:21:18,182 --> 01:21:19,388
♪ You're a winner ♪“
1441
01:21:19,600 --> 01:21:21,307
♪ That's what you are ♪
1442
01:21:21,519 --> 01:21:22,975
♪ Believe it or not ♪
1443
01:21:23,187 --> 01:21:24,803
♪ You know ♪
♪ You're really a star ♪
1444
01:21:25,022 --> 01:21:26,808
♪ And so happy... ♪
1445
01:21:27,024 --> 01:21:28,377
Let's talk about fame.
1446
01:21:28,401 --> 01:21:31,818
Uh, most famous guy in porn
worldwide has gotta be Ron Jeremy.
1447
01:21:32,029 --> 01:21:35,613
Without ever
having had a publicist,
1448
01:21:35,825 --> 01:21:39,238
without every having
had an agent or a manager,
1449
01:21:39,453 --> 01:21:47,166
- has managed to become the
most famous pop culture icon.
1450
01:21:47,378 --> 01:21:48,994
I mean, he transcends porn.
1451
01:21:49,213 --> 01:21:51,796
People don't think of
Ron Jeremy as a porn-star.
1452
01:21:52,008 --> 01:21:55,467
People think of Ron Jeremy
as a famous person.
1453
01:21:55,678 --> 01:21:57,294
I was there in the golden era,
1454
01:21:57,513 --> 01:22:00,701
- that's what they call it, the golden era,
I was there right smack in the middle of it.
1455
01:22:00,725 --> 01:22:02,285
I was going back and forth,
L.A. to New York.
1456
01:22:02,309 --> 01:22:07,141
I heard that his dick was so big that he
actually could like, you know, go on himself.
1457
01:22:07,356 --> 01:22:09,393
Go suck yourself off, she says.
1458
01:22:09,608 --> 01:22:10,973
Charming.
1459
01:22:11,193 --> 01:22:13,130
I first got into porn
thinking I'd just be in it-
1460
01:22:13,154 --> 01:22:15,361
- for maybe just a couple
of weeks, a few months.
1461
01:22:15,573 --> 01:22:17,484
See what it's like and then get out.
1462
01:22:19,452 --> 01:22:21,577
So I started doing all the
bigger films in New York.
1463
01:22:24,248 --> 01:22:27,164
"Bad Girls" had a cute little
story where I was a boy scout.
1464
01:22:27,376 --> 01:22:29,037
Hello.
1465
01:22:29,253 --> 01:22:30,789
Oh, my goodness!
1466
01:22:31,005 --> 01:22:32,336
- Please.
- What do you want?
1467
01:22:32,548 --> 01:22:34,539
I'd like some of that pussy,
if you don't mind.
1468
01:22:34,759 --> 01:22:39,426
So he's infiltrated media in like
all its forms, mainstream and porn.
1469
01:22:39,638 --> 01:22:41,094
And he's fantastic.
1470
01:22:41,307 --> 01:22:42,388
He's a really good actor.
1471
01:22:42,600 --> 01:22:45,718
He's like the essential ham.
1472
01:22:45,936 --> 01:22:50,137
As an actor, when he's awake,
great performance.
1473
01:22:50,357 --> 01:22:52,064
Adam Rifkin is
the nicest guy I know-
1474
01:22:52,276 --> 01:22:54,337
- and the greatest guy I know,
and I have to say this-
1475
01:22:54,361 --> 01:22:56,568
- or he'll stop giving
me parts in movies,
1476
01:22:56,781 --> 01:22:59,593
- the guy is easy and he's been more
loyal than anybody on the planet.
1477
01:22:59,617 --> 01:23:03,989
I made this movie called "Detroit Rock
City," and obviously to play the emcee-
1478
01:23:04,205 --> 01:23:08,119
- at the male strip
club was an easy one.
1479
01:23:08,334 --> 01:23:10,450
That was our viking,
Patrick Hirsch,
1480
01:23:10,669 --> 01:23:12,564
- and he's hung like a Norse.
1481
01:23:12,588 --> 01:23:16,173
Our next amateur has a name like a bird,
and if you like birds, you'll like this.
1482
01:23:16,217 --> 01:23:17,673
It's just a swallow.
1483
01:23:17,885 --> 01:23:19,780
I'd never heard of him
before I got in the industry.
1484
01:23:19,804 --> 01:23:24,180
I saw him on MTV, uh, when
he was doing a reality tv show.
1485
01:23:24,391 --> 01:23:27,892
And that's the impression I had of him,
not as a sexpert, just him being funny.
1486
01:23:28,104 --> 01:23:32,042
I have a feeling there're gonna be a lot
of people who are dead set against-
1487
01:23:32,066 --> 01:23:35,858
- what I do for a living, maybe religious,
could be born again, you know.
1488
01:23:36,070 --> 01:23:37,672
So I have a gut feeling
that I'm gonna come across-
1489
01:23:37,696 --> 01:23:40,779
- some adversarial opinions
as to my career choices.
1490
01:23:40,991 --> 01:23:43,699
In "Orgazmo,"
we do a martial art fight.
1491
01:23:43,911 --> 01:23:46,369
At the end, he gets the
Orgazmo's gun on me,
1492
01:23:46,580 --> 01:23:51,119
- and I freeze up, kicks me in the
head, my head literally blows up.
1493
01:23:51,335 --> 01:23:57,251
"Boon Dock Saints" is by far the biggest
thing I've ever done as far as an audience.
1494
01:23:57,466 --> 01:24:00,254
Sit the fuck down.
1495
01:24:00,469 --> 01:24:02,961
All these stars,
when they see Ron Jeremy,
1496
01:24:03,180 --> 01:24:05,700
- they drop whatever they do, I've seen
it, drop whatever they do. Oh, my god.
1497
01:24:05,724 --> 01:24:06,910
Get a picture with Ron Jeremy.
1498
01:24:06,934 --> 01:24:08,720
Kurt Cobain and Courtney Love-
1499
01:24:08,936 --> 01:24:11,456
- went running over to him for
an autograph when they saw him.
1500
01:24:11,480 --> 01:24:14,768
George Bush, Sr. was
walking the other way having,
1501
01:24:14,984 --> 01:24:16,818
- he was just President
of The United States,
1502
01:24:16,902 --> 01:24:21,820
- as they're passing, he hears
George bush say, hello, Ron.
1503
01:24:22,032 --> 01:24:25,650
That's why I attribute my
longevity to just a lot of hard work,
1504
01:24:25,870 --> 01:24:27,829
- a lot of classical movies
from the golden era,
1505
01:24:27,913 --> 01:24:32,032
- and also a lot of mainstream.
It's amazing for all the things-
1506
01:24:32,251 --> 01:24:35,960
- that Ron Jeremy has
seen and done in his life,
1507
01:24:36,172 --> 01:24:38,789
- how he manages to maintain
a sense of innocence.
1508
01:24:39,008 --> 01:24:42,922
And I swear to you, he is a,
he's like an innocent kid-
1509
01:24:43,137 --> 01:24:48,843
- in the body of this...
Hideous monster.
1510
01:24:49,059 --> 01:24:50,871
Listen, I'm gonna say goodbye
now while I kiss these nipples.
1511
01:24:50,895 --> 01:24:53,390
Look how and they're cold,
they stick out even more.
1512
01:24:57,735 --> 01:24:59,726
Why is Jenna so popular?
1513
01:24:59,945 --> 01:25:02,312
She was maybe not even arguably-
1514
01:25:02,531 --> 01:25:06,149
- the most successful,
the most well marketed,
1515
01:25:06,368 --> 01:25:09,326
- the best selling
porn-star of all time.
1516
01:25:09,538 --> 01:25:12,200
Jenna might've had a little
bit of that Ginger Lynn thing-
1517
01:25:12,416 --> 01:25:16,034
- where she just looked so
young and sweet and innocent-
1518
01:25:16,253 --> 01:25:19,621
- and looked like the
last place she should be-
1519
01:25:19,840 --> 01:25:21,501
- was looking to
get into this business.
1520
01:25:21,717 --> 01:25:26,427
And I thought I could
do it better, you know.
1521
01:25:26,639 --> 01:25:33,180
I just always felt that way all my life,
that I was capable of topping everyone.
1522
01:25:33,395 --> 01:25:36,061
That's the shot you'd see in
your magazine, folks, right there.
1523
01:25:36,273 --> 01:25:38,389
Yeah.
1524
01:25:40,694 --> 01:25:42,059
Yeah.
1525
01:25:42,279 --> 01:25:44,111
I read Jenna Jameson's book
1526
01:25:44,323 --> 01:25:45,823
"How to make love like a porn-star,"
1527
01:25:45,908 --> 01:25:49,860
- and I, I was so attracted to
the industry from those pages.
1528
01:25:50,079 --> 01:25:53,663
Jenna and I shot our
first movie on the same day.
1529
01:25:53,874 --> 01:25:57,037
- I'm Kylie.
- And I'm Jenna. I'm 19.
1530
01:25:57,253 --> 01:26:01,583
'Cause, I mean, here's little Jenna, and she's
a little blonde, perfect little tiny boobs,
1531
01:26:01,799 --> 01:26:03,335
- and she was
asking me about mine.
1532
01:26:03,550 --> 01:26:04,945
She's like, where'd you get yours?
They're great.
1533
01:26:04,969 --> 01:26:06,926
What doctor did them?
1534
01:26:07,137 --> 01:26:09,219
I'm like don't touch those.
Those are perfect.
1535
01:26:09,431 --> 01:26:11,172
Look, back in '95,
1536
01:26:11,392 --> 01:26:15,181
- while the business was
starting to go through a growth,
1537
01:26:15,396 --> 01:26:18,514
- it was still only two
years into Wicked Pictures.
1538
01:26:18,732 --> 01:26:22,808
I just said, listen, you can
either jump on the Jenna train-
1539
01:26:23,028 --> 01:26:25,190
- or I'm out,
and this is what I want.
1540
01:26:25,406 --> 01:26:28,899
Give it to me
and I will skyrocket.
1541
01:26:29,118 --> 01:26:30,483
We signed Jenna,
1542
01:26:30,703 --> 01:26:35,576
- and it didn't take very long
for Jenna to become the big deal.
1543
01:26:37,751 --> 01:26:40,826
Even then, you knew that Jenna
was gonna be something big.
1544
01:26:41,046 --> 01:26:43,037
She'd already started
to climb that ladder,
1545
01:26:43,257 --> 01:26:47,000
- and she was already
Jenna vs. Jenna Jameson.
1546
01:26:47,219 --> 01:26:50,632
I just had larger than life ideas.
1547
01:26:50,848 --> 01:26:54,973
Jenna was winning Best Actress,
Best Sex Scene, Starlet of the Year.
1548
01:26:55,185 --> 01:26:56,926
One of her movies
we did won Best Film.
1549
01:26:57,146 --> 01:27:00,184
So it was really a quick ride.
1550
01:27:00,399 --> 01:27:03,482
I was starting to gain momentum.
1551
01:27:03,694 --> 01:27:06,402
I knew I was capable
of so much more.
1552
01:27:06,613 --> 01:27:10,447
She was everywhere.
1553
01:27:10,659 --> 01:27:13,868
Again, she was not
just on the porn sets.
1554
01:27:14,079 --> 01:27:15,820
She was in movies.
1555
01:27:16,040 --> 01:27:21,918
You have to be a stripper with a
take no prisoners raw survival instinct.
1556
01:27:23,339 --> 01:27:25,797
She was on talk shows.
1557
01:27:26,008 --> 01:27:27,498
I can't believe it.
1558
01:27:27,718 --> 01:27:29,654
I'm looking at your pictures.
You could be a model.
1559
01:27:29,678 --> 01:27:31,043
Thank you.
1560
01:27:31,163 --> 01:27:34,372
By this time, she already
knew what was going on.
1561
01:27:34,583 --> 01:27:37,575
She knew how to light things
and she knew how to direct-
1562
01:27:37,795 --> 01:27:39,689
- and she knew the kind of
scenes that she wanted to do.
1563
01:27:39,713 --> 01:27:41,078
She owned all that.
1564
01:27:41,298 --> 01:27:47,092
This ls a male dominated industry,
and I can crack it open.
1565
01:27:47,304 --> 01:27:49,966
I started my own company,
club Jenna.
1566
01:27:50,182 --> 01:27:53,015
I think Jenna Jameson
was super business savvy,
1567
01:27:53,227 --> 01:27:57,971
- and she, you know, had a whole
idea of how her career was gonna go-
1568
01:27:58,190 --> 01:28:04,819
- and exactly the moves she was going to make
in order for her to have longevity in adult-
1569
01:28:05,030 --> 01:28:11,321
- and also to make tons and tons of money at a time
in the business, when, you know, it was opportune.
1570
01:28:11,537 --> 01:28:14,575
I shot my own movies
for my company,
1571
01:28:14,790 --> 01:28:18,704
- and I also did a licensing!
Distribution deal with Vivid,
1572
01:28:18,919 --> 01:28:20,205
- which was ground breaking,
1573
01:28:20,421 --> 01:28:24,588
like changed things for the whole
industry when they saw those numbers.
1574
01:28:24,800 --> 01:28:30,090
Then I got to direct her in, in
uh, "The Masseuse," of course,
1575
01:28:30,306 --> 01:28:31,512
- and "Devil in Miss Jones,"
1576
01:28:31,724 --> 01:28:33,761
- and two of the best
movies I've ever done.
1577
01:28:33,976 --> 01:28:36,092
Well, things are about to change.
1578
01:28:37,646 --> 01:28:40,638
You can have anything you want.
1579
01:28:40,858 --> 01:28:42,098
Oh...
1580
01:28:48,032 --> 01:28:50,273
She became somewhat
of a control freak.
1581
01:28:50,492 --> 01:28:52,904
I felt myself like ramping up.
1582
01:28:53,120 --> 01:28:55,908
I was like, okay,
I'm starting to get this.
1583
01:28:56,123 --> 01:28:58,660
She got so much
adulation so quickly.
1584
01:28:58,876 --> 01:29:01,743
I couldn't go anywhere without
people screaming my name.
1585
01:29:01,962 --> 01:29:05,000
And she didn't handle it
as well as she might have.
1586
01:29:05,215 --> 01:29:07,297
It was, it kind of blew my mind.
1587
01:29:07,509 --> 01:29:10,627
I saw her become
a caricature of herself.
1588
01:29:10,846 --> 01:29:14,589
It was like being Julia Roberts
when she got her Oscar, you know.
1589
01:29:14,808 --> 01:29:18,517
She seemed to start
to become less happy.
1590
01:29:18,729 --> 01:29:20,686
I played the part.
1591
01:29:20,898 --> 01:29:22,730
I worked it.
I brought glamour.
1592
01:29:22,941 --> 01:29:25,808
I never did anything half-ass.
1593
01:29:26,028 --> 01:29:30,108
I think it was the right girl,
the right time,
1594
01:29:30,324 --> 01:29:34,449
- the right company, and all
things were aligned, and it worked.
1595
01:29:34,661 --> 01:29:36,953
Do I think it's possible to
do that again on that level?
1596
01:29:37,081 --> 01:29:38,537
I don't.
1597
01:29:38,749 --> 01:29:41,707
I think she is probably
the biggest star of all time-
1598
01:29:41,919 --> 01:29:44,502
- because I don't think
that can happen again.
1599
01:29:46,173 --> 01:29:50,383
It's fair to say this
list is far from complete.
1600
01:29:50,594 --> 01:29:52,881
Dozens of other
larger than life legends-
1601
01:29:53,097 --> 01:29:55,213
- deserve to have
their stories told,
1602
01:29:55,432 --> 01:29:58,174
- performers who've contributed
to the adult industry-
1603
01:29:58,394 --> 01:30:02,728
- in unique and important ways,
many of whom continue to.
1604
01:30:02,940 --> 01:30:04,851
But when it comes
to the modern porn industry,
1605
01:30:05,067 --> 01:30:07,729
- which began in actual movie
theaters five decades ago-
1606
01:30:07,945 --> 01:30:11,404
- and continues on
hand-held devices today,
1607
01:30:11,615 --> 01:30:17,152
- these are the stars who have shined
the brightest, and rocked us the hardest.
1608
01:30:17,371 --> 01:30:18,827
I'm Mr. Skin.
1609
01:30:19,039 --> 01:30:20,200
Good night.
1610
01:30:27,172 --> 01:30:28,662
Woman excellent.
1611
01:30:28,882 --> 01:30:30,293
I'm the best clapper ever.
1612
01:30:30,509 --> 01:30:32,420
Nice.
1613
01:30:32,636 --> 01:30:36,254
I have spent quite a
bit of time with ginger.
1614
01:30:36,473 --> 01:30:38,714
She will never cease
to chase me around-
1615
01:30:38,934 --> 01:30:42,973
- with a dildo or a strap-on
or taking off my clothes,
1616
01:30:43,188 --> 01:30:45,270
- and that's, that's ginger.
1617
01:30:46,733 --> 01:30:48,644
I hated those scarves.
1618
01:30:48,861 --> 01:30:50,397
The scarves were provided.
1619
01:30:50,612 --> 01:30:56,482
There's enough cum on those scarves
to start a whole new population of people.
1620
01:30:56,702 --> 01:31:00,115
Something that I've never
revealed about myself.
1621
01:31:00,330 --> 01:31:01,616
I have a big giant penis.
1622
01:31:01,832 --> 01:31:04,039
It's just, it's tucked
inside my vagina.
1623
01:31:04,251 --> 01:31:05,585
That's what I
was gonna tell you.
1624
01:31:05,627 --> 01:31:06,627
Is it good?
1625
01:31:06,670 --> 01:31:07,455
Come on.
1626
01:31:07,671 --> 01:31:08,877
I mean, you know, DP?
1627
01:31:09,089 --> 01:31:10,381
That's kind of a natural thing.
1628
01:31:10,591 --> 01:31:14,128
If there's another guy in the picture,
you know, you got the extra hole.
1629
01:31:15,637 --> 01:31:17,253
And she was a wild girl.
1630
01:31:17,473 --> 01:31:19,965
Cubans are wild.
Don't you know Cubans?
1631
01:31:20,184 --> 01:31:22,642
They got that nice round
ass and they're wild, man.
1632
01:31:22,853 --> 01:31:24,969
My famous line was, you know,
1633
01:31:25,189 --> 01:31:28,102
You wanna twat sandwich, baby?
1634
01:31:28,317 --> 01:31:30,809
Where she had the biggest
clit and the largest pussy lips-
1635
01:31:31,028 --> 01:31:35,230
- at that particular time, which,
I'm a freak, and so that immediately-
1636
01:31:35,449 --> 01:31:39,901
- got me fanatically involved with like
sucking and swallowing them down.
1637
01:31:40,120 --> 01:31:43,078
I had a pimp,
which he got paid 40%.
1638
01:31:43,290 --> 01:31:46,248
I took 60 'cause I had to
get a boyfriend out of jail.
1639
01:31:46,460 --> 01:31:47,575
So I'm used to those days.
1640
01:31:47,794 --> 01:31:49,284
Hippie girls,
hair under their arms,
1641
01:31:49,505 --> 01:31:51,712
- all that kind of stuff.
Hair all over their legs.
1642
01:31:51,924 --> 01:31:54,008
You couldn't see the pussy.
It was all like a tree.
1643
01:31:54,134 --> 01:31:57,631
You had to like take a rake and like
rake it out to get even to see anything.
1644
01:31:57,846 --> 01:32:00,213
And each scene was connected,
not separate scenes.
1645
01:32:00,432 --> 01:32:03,140
Everything flowed
like a river or something.
1646
01:32:03,352 --> 01:32:05,519
- And a lot of pubic hairs.
- They were all so hairy.
1647
01:32:05,562 --> 01:32:07,974
Pubic hair.
There was a lot of hair.
1648
01:32:08,190 --> 01:32:13,184
And she had pubic hair.
1649
01:32:13,403 --> 01:32:16,271
And lots of it.
I was just gonna say that.
1650
01:32:16,490 --> 01:32:19,323
The first time I had a
strange dick in my hairy pussy.
1651
01:32:19,535 --> 01:32:20,946
It was the '80s.
1652
01:32:21,161 --> 01:32:22,764
I'd probably been in
the business a few months.
1653
01:32:22,788 --> 01:32:24,870
I still was a little nervous
about the business,
1654
01:32:25,082 --> 01:32:28,704
- and now they have me driving out to the
hinterlands, for this shoot, and I'm sure
1655
01:32:28,919 --> 01:32:31,873
- that I'm gonna get killed out there,
and buried in an avocado grove.
1656
01:32:32,089 --> 01:32:34,797
Whoa.
Sorry.
1657
01:32:35,008 --> 01:32:37,841
That was so compelling,
you lost your balance.
1658
01:32:38,053 --> 01:32:40,507
I was impressed by both the
ladies in that scene, actually.
1659
01:32:40,722 --> 01:32:43,259
I saw that about to happen.
1660
01:32:43,475 --> 01:32:46,685
There's a whole bunch of producers
I had to sleep with to get a lot of jobs.
1661
01:32:46,728 --> 01:32:48,059
No, I'm just...
1662
01:32:48,272 --> 01:32:51,014
- I hope not.
- Slept with two of 'em at least.
1663
01:32:51,233 --> 01:32:54,045
And one that took you to a Barry
Manilow concert. She called me up...
1664
01:32:54,069 --> 01:32:55,855
Dude, but they
made me stars, though.
1665
01:32:56,071 --> 01:32:57,131
I slept with the
right producers, I swear.
1666
01:32:57,155 --> 01:32:58,441
Which ones off the record?
1667
01:32:58,657 --> 01:33:01,991
I guess "Deep Throat"
was such a big event.
1668
01:33:02,202 --> 01:33:03,943
People were going
to see "Deep Throat."
1669
01:33:04,162 --> 01:33:06,496
It wasn't a very good movie,
but people wanted to see it.
1670
01:33:06,582 --> 01:33:10,408
I guess part of it was Linda had, you
know, had kind of a sweet look to her.
1671
01:33:10,627 --> 01:33:12,564
She was a filthy little whore,
but she had a sweet look to her.
1672
01:33:12,588 --> 01:33:18,083
I really just love the whole idea
that she has with the whole thing.
1673
01:33:18,302 --> 01:33:20,543
I just went blah, blah,
blah in my head.
1674
01:33:20,762 --> 01:33:23,220
And I'm like blah, blah, blah.
1675
01:33:23,432 --> 01:33:26,473
My first blow-job, and I'm
looking everybody in the eye,
1676
01:33:26,685 --> 01:33:28,471
- 'cause there's like
30 people on the set.
1677
01:33:28,687 --> 01:33:30,473
Welcome to my blow-job.
1678
01:33:30,689 --> 01:33:32,350
Welcome to my blow-job.
Is this cool?
1679
01:33:32,566 --> 01:33:35,308
I did ten films with Veronica Hart.
1680
01:33:35,527 --> 01:33:37,277
And then we were
talking about our parents,
1681
01:33:37,487 --> 01:33:40,980
- and my father worked out
at the test site out in Nevada.
1682
01:33:41,199 --> 01:33:42,949
What a nice thing,
your father makes bombs.
1683
01:33:43,076 --> 01:33:44,532
How nice.
1684
01:33:44,745 --> 01:33:47,203
I came down hard on her.
I said your father's a murderer.
1685
01:33:47,414 --> 01:33:49,530
All of a sudden,
R. Bolla was saying-
1686
01:33:49,750 --> 01:33:53,454
- that my dad was the cause
of everything wrong in the world.
1687
01:33:53,670 --> 01:33:57,463
I saw that she was hurt,
so I told her I was sorry.
1688
01:33:57,674 --> 01:33:58,880
I really did.
1689
01:33:59,092 --> 01:34:02,210
I said I'm really sorry
that I hate your father.
1690
01:34:02,429 --> 01:34:03,429
No.
1691
01:34:05,390 --> 01:34:06,425
Well done.
1692
01:34:08,060 --> 01:34:11,519
I know who I fucked
and when I fucked 'em.
1693
01:34:11,730 --> 01:34:16,565
Log on to
gingerlynnauctions.com, and bid...
1694
01:34:16,777 --> 01:34:18,563
No, I burped.
I burped.
1695
01:34:18,779 --> 01:34:20,315
Here's a little tidbit about Ron.
1696
01:34:20,530 --> 01:34:25,445
And Ron is desperate
to be in mainstream movies.
1697
01:34:25,661 --> 01:34:30,370
And I think to his detriment he
has become, through his own doing,
1698
01:34:30,582 --> 01:34:35,701
- too famous to be taken seriously as
an actor the way he would like to be.
1699
01:34:35,921 --> 01:34:37,857
So you just see Ron Jeremy
you go, oh, it's Ron Jeremy.
1700
01:34:37,881 --> 01:34:40,293
You don't see Ron Jeremy
playing like the office guy-
1701
01:34:40,509 --> 01:34:41,944
- or Ron Jeremy
playing the attorney.
1702
01:34:41,968 --> 01:34:44,005
It's like Ron Jeremy
playing the attorney.
1703
01:34:44,221 --> 01:34:49,007
The only way to actually to be the king
of porn is like to, uh, kill Ron Jeremy.
1704
01:34:59,945 --> 01:35:01,982
Just smack it.
Excellent.
1705
01:35:02,155 --> 01:35:03,716
Actually, I would
like to do that again.
1706
01:35:03,740 --> 01:35:04,821
Let's slate again please.
151265
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