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THIS FILM BEGINS
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WITH AN OLD
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TV PICTURE
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I don't often confess,
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but I must admit
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that until recently,
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I'd never read Paul Nizan.
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Nizan was an angry young man,
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raging against all the injuries
that the world inflicted then, and now.
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He's angry with the philosophers
he heard lecturing at the Sorbonne,
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talking about Man with a capital "M"
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but never about men with a small "m",
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men starving to death
or murdered in wars
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or beaten up in police stations
all over the world.
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He's angry with the liberal
bourgeois writers of his time
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whose names we all know,
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great writers who spend so much time
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contemplating
every nook and cranny of their souls
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that the y're always 20 years too old
to tell the young who ask the m
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when to act, and how.
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Paul Nizan is a wake-up call.
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That's why you should read him.
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You may say,
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"Why introduce us
to such a rude young man?"
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His rudeness is why you should read him.
We don't lack polite writers.
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What we lack, and need, are rude ones.
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This plea for a writerraging against the establishment
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was broadcast in prime timeon one of France's two TV channels.
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In the 1960s,
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government control over the TV news
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was not always very subtle.
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The information Ministerfelt free to invite himself on air
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to unveil his revamped news program.
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We've invited Minister Alain Peyrefitte
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to present the new format
that he has commissioned.
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Minister, would you like
to explain to our viewers
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why you ordered
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the se changes
to the news program?
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First, because all recipes grow stale.
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Unless we change, we become boring.
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For example,
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the idea of illustrating
the Council of Ministers' meeting
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with scenes of their cars
arriving at the Elysée Palace
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was new at first,
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but after ten years of repetition,
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the festival of car doors
opening and closing
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has grown a little tedious.
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For the journalists of today,the se scenes from April 1963
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epitomize a dark age,
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the prehistory of their profession.
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Happily, most of them agreethings are very different now.
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I've been in TV since 1972.
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I've seen a censorship
that went unsaid,
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I've seen self-censorship
that went unsaid,
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and I've seen the gradual rise,
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under President Mitterrand,
mostly during the power-sharing period,
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of a total freedom
that's never been revoked.
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The Government
had to open up or lose its credibility.
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In the old days,
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Alain Peyrefitte had a direct line
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to every office
in the public broadcasting HQ.
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That's all history.
We've come a long way, no question!
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"We've come a long way."
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Since then, TV has burst into color.
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There are many more channels.
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For most journalists,
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news reporting todayrests on three pillars:
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lndependence,Objectivity and Pluralism,
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which safeguardthe media's democratic role.
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So?
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Should we, like Paul Nizan,rage against the "watchdogs",
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the se journalists,press pundits and media stars
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who, like the writers of the 1930s,
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bow down to the powers that be?
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Of course not.
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All that has changed.
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THE NEW WATCHDOGS
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So we have taken steps to ensure
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that the French TV news
accurately mirrors
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every highway and byway
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of France and the world.
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What a classic!
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It's extraordinary to see
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the Information Minister
telling the public,
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"These are the steps that we,
the Government, have taken
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to improve the TV news."
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It seems long ago?
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It seems antiquated...
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or Soviet.
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Antiquated or Soviet?
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Anne Sinclair and Christine Ockrent,two celebrity news anchors,
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agree that their professionhas moved on.
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The guests are unanimous.
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These days, journalistshave no ties with politicians.
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They do their job,
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free of any outside influence.
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We tested this the oryat the National Assembly,
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at the 2009 Political Book Prizeceremony,
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a rare occasion
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when top journalists agreeto mix with politicians.
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Don't be surprised
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to see the former Head of Newsof France's key public TV channel
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kissing an ex-interior Minister
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convicted of breach of trust.
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It's all an act.
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Behind the se social smiles and kisses,
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the newshounds are ready to pounce.
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The Fourth Estateknows that independence
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is a daily struggle.
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Today's journalists take no prisoners.Raphaëlle Bacqué,
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the prizewinner for her bookon recent prime ministers,
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doesn't mince words.
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I know no othe r country
where you could find
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twelve such eminent politicians
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so skilled at analyzing and explaining
what power is about.
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France can rest easy.
It's still the great country of politics.
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Used to parrying such deadly blows,the Speaker of the National Assembly
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has the perfect riposte.
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...how much
we appreciate
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the intelligence
and judgment
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of the se great writers and voices
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of French political journalism.
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The Speaker knowshe's not among friends.
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Take Laurent Joffrin,ex-chief editor
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of an opposition newspaperthat prides itself
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on keeping politiciansat arm's length.
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IF YOU SAY "TU"
TO THE PRESIDENT,
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ARE YOU CLOSER
TO INFORMATION
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OR CLOSER TO POWER?
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Saying "tu" means you're too friendly.
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People call their workmates "tu".
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As working journalists, we say "tu"
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to many people who aren't our friends.
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Talking to the French President
is a different matter.
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There has to be
a respectable distance.
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Sincere belief or sales pitch?
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A few years ago,Laurent Joffrin said...
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I say "tu" to Sarko,
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like he does to everybody.
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So what?
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It doesn't stop me bawling him out...
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NEWS IS A BATTLE
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When it comes to bawling out Sarkozy,
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Laurent Joffrin knows his stuff.
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About economic policy...
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France's economy
is performing somewhat better
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than its neighbors.
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It would be unfair
to deny the Government credit for it.
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Given the se good results,
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my question is...
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My week is starting well!
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I'm here to help.
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What comes next?
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Wait for it.
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After what you just said...
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Get it off your chest!
Honestly...
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We respect the facts,
even if they favor you.
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Does it hurt, Doctor?
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The director of Libérationhas needled French presidents for years
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with his no-nonsense,
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almost impudent style.
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Monsieur Chirac,
my question may offend you,
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but presidential candidates
have to face tough questions.
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Absolutely.
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A storm of debate
has been raised
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by a newspaper article
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concerning an apartment
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that you or your family
rents in central Paris...
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- I do.
- You do?
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You've been criticized
for benefiting, in a way,
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from a disproportionately
low rent
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considering the amenities
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and nature of the apartment.
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You have said
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and nobody has doubted your word,
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but isn't it awkward, image-wise?
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You risk being regarded as someone
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who benefits, in all honesty,
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as everyone agrees...
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who benefits, as othe rs do too,
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from privileges
that ordinary citizens don't have,
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since you seem to pay
a very low rent for that apartment.
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Your question
doesn't shock me at all.
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One minute and two secondsto ask a question.
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Chirac is on the ropes.
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NEWS IS A BATTLE
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I always admire and feel grateful...
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We thank you,
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ladies and gentlemen
of the political press
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who substantially shape
our compatriots' opinions.
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To all of you,
I extend my deepest thanks.
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You play a clear role
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in keeping our democracy alive.
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These people aren't freelance
or part-time journalists.
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They're the stars of the trade.
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They shape the news
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and the political and economic debate
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in France.
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If you look at the se celebrities,
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you see the y're very similar
to politicians and business leaders.
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They have many social traits in common.
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They share the same social background.
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Looking at famous French journalists,
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you see very few
from working-class or rural families.
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You find plenty of doctors' children,
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diplomats' and industrialists' children.
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Coming from similar backgrounds,
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the y're familiar with each othe r.
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They've also had the same education.
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We think most journalists
went to journalism school,
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but Ockrent, Pujadas and Elkabbach,
for example,
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all graduated from Sciences Po.
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Claire Chazal and Emmanuel Chain
are HEC alumni.
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So the se star journalists
aren't ordinary reporters.
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They're tight with
the people they interview.
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When it comes down to it,
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the y're all from the same world.
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They're like one big family.
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Some went into politics,
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some into business,
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some into journalism.
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That's the feeling you get.
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They share the same lifestyle,
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the same values, the same friendships.
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They stay at the same hotels,
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they vacation in the same places.
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It really is a family.
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"I'll roar and claw
to defend my husband"
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This closeness
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is so real
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that it sometimes turns to passion.
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Overt love affairs,
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displayed and sold in glossy magazines.
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Where else but in France,
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the homeland of love?
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AUDREY AND ARNAUD
IN LOVE FOR ALL TO SEE
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OCKRENT "I'M COMING BACK"
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Christine Ockrentwent one step furthe r.
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In 2008, when her husbandwas Foreign Minister,
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she was appointed deputy chief
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of foreign broadcasting
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by the French President himself.
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France Monde,
France's new world broadcasting service,
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will oversee
newborn TV channel France 24,
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French-speaking TV 5 Monde,
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and Radio France Internationale.
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Alain de Pouzilhac will head the group,
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seconded by Christine Ockrent.
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M. Pouzilhac
is a presidential appointee,
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as is his deputy, Christine Ockrent.
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40 years after Peyrefitte,
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the freedom of the presshas made great strides.
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The Minister no longer needsto hype his government's policy on TV .
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His wife does it for him every day.
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It seems antiquated...
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or Soviet.
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In my opinion, Claire Chazal,
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money and politics
should be kept separate.
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Neithe r should control the othe r,
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especially if the money
also owns big media companies.
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This news program made history.
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For the first timesince it was privatized,
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a party leader challengedTF1's independence, live on air.
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Not because its journalistswere in league with politicians
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but because France's top TV channelwas funded by big business.
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Believe me,
the country is in trouble
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when very big financial
and industrial interests
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are combined with
very big media interests
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and also have very close links
with the Government.
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Attacked by a parliamentarianwho voted to privatize TF1 in 1987,
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Claire Chazal fights back.
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The channel's star anchorwon't let anyone
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slander her employer,the Bouygues Group.
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And she's not the only journalistto be employed by a conglomerate.
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Here's an example,this time from public TV .
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Tonight there's a meetingof two big media stars.
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One is a famous variety show host,
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the othe r a former news anchor.
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Michel Drucker,
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past and future employeeof the Lagardere Group,
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plays host to Jean-Pierre Elkabbach,
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past and present employeeof the same Group.
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And who is their guest?
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Arnaud Lagardere, their boss.
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Arnaud, thanks a million.
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We rarely see you.
You keep a low profile.
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You usually avoid the limelight.
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You're here for Jean-Pierre,
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whom you've known
since he advised your fathe r.
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But first, a word about the Group.
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Lagardere is one of the world's biggest
media and hi-tech conglomerates.
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Our viewers have no idea how deeply
it penetrates their daily lives.
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Books, magazines, radio stations,
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airplanes...
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- Careful, the y'll quote you.
- Am I far off?
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Not far off, but keep it quiet.
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Above all, the Group
is a fantastic human adventure
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involving 250,000 people
all around the world.
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Arnaud Lagardere is rightto correct Michel Drucker.
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The Group he heads
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is a fantastic human adventure,
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not an all-invading monopoly.
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To prove it, we will showthat it's perfectly possible
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to spend a daywithout the Lagardere Group.
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Let's take an average Frenchman,Monsieur Lambert.
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He wakes up to Europe 1,
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Lagardere's flagship radio station.
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But equally well, he can listento Radio Classique, owned by LVMH.
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Going to work, he can buy a paper
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from one of Lagardere's 1,000 outlets...
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or pick up a freesheetpublished by the Bolloré Group.
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At the office,
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his workmatescan browse a Lagardere website
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or a Lagardere magazine...
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but Lambert can readthe Dassault Group's newspaper.
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On his way home,
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Lambert can buy one ofLagardere's 20 magazines...
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or one owned by the PPR Group.
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Back home, Lambert can surf
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Lagardere's eight TV channels...
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or watch the evening newson Bouygues-owned TF1.
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In my opinion,
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money and politics
should be kept separate.
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A day without Arnaud Lagardere
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comes at the price
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of consorting witha similar bunch
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of big businessbosses,
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all with big media holdings...
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and all jockeyingfor government contracts.
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Selling informationgives them two things:
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political clout
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and money.
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France is unusual in having
large media corporations
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that live off
government contracts.
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"Bricks and Bullets",
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Bouygues and Lagardere.
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This is clearly an unhealthy situation
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for the media
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but very profitable for the companies.
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The political leverage it gives the m
is deeply corrupting.
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Martin Bouygues,France's 17th richest man
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The concentration
and financialization of the media
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has a big impact.
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Obviously,
economics can't explain everything
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but no explanation
is complete without it.
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We can't understand
the impoverishment of information
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if we ignore
therelentless drive to cut costs
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much more savagely
than the printed press,
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especially the national dailies,
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which are happy
to clear just enough profit
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to invest moderately
and pay their workers' wages.
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The profit-hunters
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aim to make
the media as profitable
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as any cutting-edge
economic sector.
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Claire Chazal,
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I am not criticizing Nicolas Sarkozy
for his closeness
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to some very powerful
business leaders.
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He makes no secret of it.
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He even flaunts it in the papers,
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as you know.
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Bayrou had good reason to begrudgethe se tycoons' friendship
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with his rivalpresidential candidate, Sarkozy.
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On May 6th 2007, no less than fourof the se media magnates
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gathered at Fouquet's restaurantto toast the new president's victory.
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The well-publicized familiarity
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between our dear President Sarkozy
and the media barons is troublesome.
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It is plainly, deeply corrupting.
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But when we probe
beyond the friendships,
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the yacht parties and backslapping,
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we see that the backslapping
is based primarily
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on a shared set of values
and political beliefs.
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Because they agree
on the society they want to construct
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and the economic interests they support,
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the se friendships
can be quite effective.
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The interests of the people
who really run this country
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reach far beyond the person
of Sarkozy himself.
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Sarkozy is there because today,
he seems to be the best guardian
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of their financial
and ideological interests.
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But if, for any reason,
he becomes a liability tomorrow,
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the y'll back anothe r horse
without blinking.
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They have plenty of runners
to choose from.
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On the right wing, naturally,
but also on the left.
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A word about your neighbor,
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Jean-Pierre,
your fathe r's former adviser.
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Do you listen to him every morning?
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- Sometimes I even see him.
- You drop in?
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It's a show in itself.
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He drops in around 7:45
and we have a chat...
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...we have a chat...
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...we have a chat...
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The viewers of Drucker's showbelieve every word.
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When the boss of a conglomerateemploying 250,000 people
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drops in at the radio station he owns,it's to have a chat.
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Certainly not to give orders.
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Elkabbach and Drucker assert
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that for their employers,
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the freedom of the press
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is sacred.
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And not only freedom.
He has othe r qualities.
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I'm not saying it to flatter you.
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I saw you metamorphose
into a great European manager.
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It's amazing. Once or twice,
I've watched him negotiate.
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Can I say this?
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He's so focused and so still,
you wonder if he's there.
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He bides his time.
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All of a sudden, he strikes.
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He grabs the strategic initiative.
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He can even surprise you
by switching strategies.
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Negotiators beware!
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Don't tell!
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It's a good thing I came.
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It's good that he drops in...
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it's a good thing he came.
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It takes great journalistic skill
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to praise a boss so fulsomely.
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He grabs the strategic initiative.
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He can even surprise you
by switching strategies.
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WORKING DOGS
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Lie!
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Sit!
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Stand!
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Journalistshave two ways of not contesting
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the powerthat media owners exert on them.
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They can simply deny it,
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as Elkabbach and many othe rs do,
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or they can say it's naturalfor this power to exert itself.
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Back to our two famous editorial writers.
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What's their take on the subject?
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Do you feel
the Lagardere media
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are under orders,
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in thrall to business interests
and arms dealers?
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No.
It varies for each magazine,
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each part
of the Lagardere empire.
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There's always
a nebulous power.
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Some people are so powerful
that they don't need to speak
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but they do set guidelines,
obviously.
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If you start up a newspaper,
you don't hand over control
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to a hand-picked
team of journalists.
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It makes sense
that the owner sets guidelines.
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Have you ever been
censored?
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Has Robert Hersant
ever phoned you
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before you went to press
446
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and say "Scrap that article"
447
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or "Change that headline"?
448
00:26:09,447 --> 00:26:12,086
It happens on every newspaper.
449
00:26:12,247 --> 00:26:14,442
It seems very natural to me.
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I think every owner
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has rights over his paper.
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In a way,
he's the one with the power.
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My power, pardon the expression,
is one big joke.
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Let's call it responsibility, then.
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Real power exists.
It's the enduring power of capital.
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That's real power.
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Power naturally exerts itself.
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So power naturally exerts itself.
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But how, in practice?
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Back to the TF1 news,
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France's most watchednews program.
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The country's in trouble.
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Harsh words!
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Can you give
any practical examples?
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She's right.Let's take a practical example.
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Not just any example.
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An important issueinvolving public safety
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and France's future.
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How to Handle Boozefests?
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Should Boozefests be Banned?
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Nothing quite so serious!
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Let's take the safetyof nuclear power plants.
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On May 27th 2008,
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an AFP wire storyreported that "serious faults"
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had promptedthe Nuclear Safety Authority
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to halt the pouring of concreteat the Flamanville reactor site.
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Various mediapicked up the story during the day.
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Work on the nuclear plant is on hold.
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Faults have been found
in the concrete reinforcing rods.
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The wire story reported thatthe grading work and pouring of concrete
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were contracted to the Bouygues Group.
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Let's see how TF1,owned by Martin Bouygues,
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reported the event that evening.
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Good evening.
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Our top stories today:
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President Sarkozy visits Rungis market
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to greet "France's early risers
who want to make a decent living."
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This evening,TF1's seven million viewers
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are told nothingabout the nuclear site.
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Let's try tomorrow.
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Today's top stories...
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Still nothing.
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Let's watch Claire Chazal.
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Good evening.
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The headlines today:
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The floods continue...
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Not a word from Claire Chazalabout her employer's trouble.
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In recent years, the nuclear sector
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has been a key business areafor the Bouygues Group.
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Real power exists.
It's the enduring power of capital.
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That's real power.
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Power naturally exerts itself.
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Power naturally exerts itself.
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Naturally, therefore,
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there's a place in Pariswhere the media stars dine once a month
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with the political and financial elite.
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Le Siecle is a private club
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which picks its membersfrom among the French elite.
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Business leaders,top civil servants,
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journalists,intellectuals, politicians
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all follow the golden rule:
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Never breathe a word outsideabout what's said in here.
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Free from prying eyes and oversight,
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the media starslearn the manners of power
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and hear what's on its mind.
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Former government minister
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Crédit Agricole board member
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Editorial writer for Le Figaro, etc.
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MP and former minister
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Head of Calyon bank
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00:30:21,727 --> 00:30:24,321
Speaker of the National Assembly
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Le Monde board member
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00:30:29,327 --> 00:30:32,399
Vice-Chairman of Arte TV
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Former government minister
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Lurking documentary filmmaker
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All the se clubs
527
00:30:41,927 --> 00:30:44,885
are a motley crew of journalists,
528
00:30:45,767 --> 00:30:46,836
pseudo-intellectuals,
529
00:30:48,687 --> 00:30:50,040
semi-economists,
530
00:30:50,207 --> 00:30:53,438
real economists,
top civil servants, politicians,
531
00:30:54,087 --> 00:30:56,282
and business leaders, naturally.
532
00:30:57,407 --> 00:31:01,446
The whole bunch
are as thick as thieves.
533
00:31:01,607 --> 00:31:04,997
Vice-President
of the French Banks Association, etc.
534
00:31:05,167 --> 00:31:06,805
Government minister
535
00:31:08,447 --> 00:31:10,483
Adviser to the Mayor of Paris
536
00:31:11,327 --> 00:31:13,045
Chair of PPR Supervisory Board
537
00:31:14,887 --> 00:31:16,957
Board member of Gucci, TF1, YSL...
538
00:31:19,047 --> 00:31:21,766
Le Point, Bouygues, Air France, etc.
539
00:31:23,207 --> 00:31:25,277
Joining this kind of club
540
00:31:25,927 --> 00:31:28,236
and belonging to it
541
00:31:29,327 --> 00:31:31,124
involves... how can I put it?
542
00:31:32,047 --> 00:31:35,039
Forfeiting freedom of speech
and critical judgment
543
00:31:35,927 --> 00:31:38,361
in order to fit the norm,
544
00:31:38,527 --> 00:31:40,836
adapt, adjust,
545
00:31:41,367 --> 00:31:43,005
and censor yourself.
546
00:31:43,167 --> 00:31:46,079
Very soon, you don't need to be told.
547
00:31:47,007 --> 00:31:49,157
You know what you can and can't say,
548
00:31:50,167 --> 00:31:52,886
the questions you can and can't ask.
549
00:32:07,847 --> 00:32:09,803
Joining the Siecle
550
00:32:09,967 --> 00:32:13,198
means that you fit in
with the French ruling class.
551
00:32:13,367 --> 00:32:17,406
As a member, you have to
respect its interests, at least,
552
00:32:17,567 --> 00:32:23,005
and not interfere with
its political and economic agenda.
553
00:32:27,407 --> 00:32:29,398
Thanks, boss!
554
00:32:32,127 --> 00:32:35,119
It's such fun to work for you
555
00:32:35,287 --> 00:32:38,802
We're as happy as larks
556
00:32:39,127 --> 00:32:40,526
Thanks, boss!
557
00:32:43,327 --> 00:32:46,444
For what you do here on earth,
558
00:32:46,967 --> 00:32:49,925
One day God will reward you.
559
00:32:50,567 --> 00:32:53,206
The media dislike the business world.
560
00:32:53,447 --> 00:32:57,042
Your audience, the general public,
561
00:32:57,207 --> 00:32:59,767
aren't curious about business.
562
00:32:59,927 --> 00:33:01,599
They have no taste for it.
563
00:33:02,447 --> 00:33:04,915
It's also because
businesspeople keep quiet.
564
00:33:05,087 --> 00:33:09,239
It's a struggle to get the m
to participate in debates
565
00:33:09,407 --> 00:33:11,125
on this program, for example.
566
00:33:11,927 --> 00:33:13,758
We're happy to have you!
567
00:33:13,927 --> 00:33:17,602
Maybe you'll persuade othe rs
to follow suit.
568
00:33:18,687 --> 00:33:20,439
You're right, there's a fear...
569
00:33:20,607 --> 00:33:22,916
For some prominent journalists,
570
00:33:23,087 --> 00:33:27,000
frequenting business leadersfosters a love of business
571
00:33:27,167 --> 00:33:29,920
that is more than quietly platonic.
572
00:33:30,087 --> 00:33:33,557
It jingles like gold.
573
00:33:34,647 --> 00:33:36,683
As we all know, we live
574
00:33:36,847 --> 00:33:41,875
in a globalized world, of which
we'll see a spectacular example tonight.
575
00:33:42,047 --> 00:33:44,197
As you probably know, Microsoft...
576
00:33:44,367 --> 00:33:46,881
When journalists use their reputation
577
00:33:47,047 --> 00:33:50,562
to plug a product or a companyfor financial reward,
578
00:33:50,727 --> 00:33:53,036
it's called "double-dipping".
579
00:33:53,407 --> 00:33:55,841
Conflict of interest is an obvious risk
580
00:33:56,007 --> 00:34:00,159
and journalism's Code of Ethicssternly reproves double-dipping.
581
00:34:00,327 --> 00:34:02,557
But pick up the phone
582
00:34:02,727 --> 00:34:05,161
and you'll find plenty who do it.
583
00:34:05,327 --> 00:34:07,841
There's one for every purse.
584
00:34:15,647 --> 00:34:17,842
Let's assume that Monsieur Lambert
585
00:34:19,767 --> 00:34:23,123
manages a company called KTP Finance.
586
00:34:25,207 --> 00:34:28,836
He phones up a specialized agency
587
00:34:29,007 --> 00:34:31,567
to hire a well-known journalist.
588
00:34:32,127 --> 00:34:35,403
...to celebrate their sales figures.
589
00:34:35,567 --> 00:34:37,956
I'd like to hire
a journalist guest speaker.
590
00:34:38,127 --> 00:34:40,163
Let's see what would happen.
591
00:34:40,327 --> 00:34:42,079
Somebody high-end.
592
00:34:42,607 --> 00:34:45,565
We've got a decent budget
but I want good value.
593
00:34:45,727 --> 00:34:47,080
What sort of budget?
594
00:34:47,807 --> 00:34:50,844
We're thinking about 15,000 euros.
595
00:34:51,007 --> 00:34:52,725
That's a good budget.
596
00:34:54,207 --> 00:34:58,405
We work with lots of journalistsat lots of different prices.
597
00:34:58,807 --> 00:35:02,402
Whom did you have in mind?
598
00:35:03,287 --> 00:35:07,917
Ideally, Patrick Poivre d'Arvor
or Christine Ockrent.
599
00:35:08,087 --> 00:35:11,363
She doesn't do it any more.She got told off.
600
00:35:11,847 --> 00:35:13,485
She did but she stopped?
601
00:35:13,647 --> 00:35:17,526
She got caught, you might say.
602
00:35:18,047 --> 00:35:19,560
Guillaume Durand does it.
603
00:35:19,727 --> 00:35:21,160
How much?
604
00:35:22,967 --> 00:35:24,161
17,000 or 18,000.
605
00:35:24,327 --> 00:35:27,876
- And Poivre d'Arvor?
- He's more like 25,000.
606
00:35:28,327 --> 00:35:32,605
But Pujadas, Durand etc.
They're possible?
607
00:35:32,767 --> 00:35:36,680
Not Pujadas.Basically, forget about news anchors.
608
00:35:37,087 --> 00:35:39,806
They're too exposed.
609
00:35:39,967 --> 00:35:41,559
Exposed to what?
610
00:35:41,727 --> 00:35:46,118
Getting paid serious moneyto appear at a corporate function
611
00:35:46,287 --> 00:35:49,563
is something they keep quiet about.
612
00:35:50,247 --> 00:35:50,963
Is it?
613
00:35:51,127 --> 00:35:53,083
It's hypocritical.
614
00:35:53,247 --> 00:35:57,126
All journalists do it,or let's say half of them.
615
00:35:57,287 --> 00:35:59,517
But their management disapproves
616
00:35:59,687 --> 00:36:03,316
if they use the celebritythe y've gained on the job
617
00:36:03,487 --> 00:36:07,446
to make money elsewhere...
618
00:36:07,767 --> 00:36:11,555
I don't suppose you have a list
of journalists to choose from?
619
00:36:11,727 --> 00:36:12,682
A what?
620
00:36:12,847 --> 00:36:14,439
A list to choose from.
621
00:36:14,607 --> 00:36:17,838
No! it would be too long,and besides...
622
00:36:18,287 --> 00:36:22,246
Monsieur Lambert keeps trying.Soon he has the list he wants.
623
00:36:26,087 --> 00:36:30,205
He is deluged with the CVsofjournalists willing to double-dip.
624
00:36:30,367 --> 00:36:33,484
Full CVs, including their fees
625
00:36:33,647 --> 00:36:37,242
and the names of satisfied companies.
626
00:36:51,207 --> 00:36:53,277
From among the flood of candidates,
627
00:36:53,447 --> 00:36:55,358
Lambert makes his choice.
628
00:36:59,807 --> 00:37:02,082
Fortunately, he can afford her.
629
00:37:04,407 --> 00:37:08,366
But does a champion of consumer rightson France lnter radio
630
00:37:08,967 --> 00:37:11,083
know how to boost
631
00:37:11,247 --> 00:37:13,841
the corporate cultureof his workforce?
632
00:37:15,487 --> 00:37:17,443
thereply comes quickly.
633
00:37:17,607 --> 00:37:20,360
lsabelle Giordano isn't hidebound.
634
00:37:22,167 --> 00:37:23,998
She's a true pro.
635
00:37:24,287 --> 00:37:25,322
So pro, in fact,
636
00:37:25,487 --> 00:37:29,605
that she happily double-dipsfor a consumer credit company
637
00:37:29,767 --> 00:37:33,043
and invitesits Chief Communications Officer
638
00:37:33,207 --> 00:37:38,122
to speak on her consumerprotection show on public radio.
639
00:37:40,287 --> 00:37:42,039
The Difference Is Independence.
640
00:37:44,367 --> 00:37:45,800
The Difference Is Vigilance.
641
00:37:57,247 --> 00:37:59,920
Paul Nizan The Watchdogs
642
00:38:01,967 --> 00:38:04,197
"Bourgeois thought
always says to the people,
643
00:38:04,367 --> 00:38:08,246
"Take my word for it.
Whatever I tell you is true.
644
00:38:08,767 --> 00:38:12,123
"All the thinkers I nourish
have labored for you.
645
00:38:12,527 --> 00:38:15,599
"You cannot re-study
all the problems they resolved
646
00:38:15,767 --> 00:38:17,723
"or retrace the same paths,
647
00:38:18,127 --> 00:38:22,166
"but you can accept the findings
of the se pure and selfless people,
648
00:38:22,687 --> 00:38:25,281
"the se men who bear
the stamp of greatness
649
00:38:25,727 --> 00:38:29,800
"and hold aloft from the common folk
for whom they labor
650
00:38:29,967 --> 00:38:32,879
the keys to truth and justice."
651
00:38:40,447 --> 00:38:42,119
Most television viewers
652
00:38:42,287 --> 00:38:45,597
would like the news to be presented
653
00:38:45,767 --> 00:38:48,839
not always by the same reader,
654
00:38:49,007 --> 00:38:52,158
but by experts in therelevant field:
655
00:38:52,327 --> 00:38:54,443
international, economic,
656
00:38:54,607 --> 00:38:57,804
social, legal, or parliamentary.
657
00:38:58,407 --> 00:39:03,765
In future, the news presenter
will act as a kind of ringmaster,
658
00:39:03,927 --> 00:39:07,237
standing back to make way,
659
00:39:07,407 --> 00:39:09,284
eithe r for pictures
660
00:39:09,447 --> 00:39:11,563
or for specialists on the topic.
661
00:39:12,127 --> 00:39:13,879
I hope and believe
662
00:39:14,047 --> 00:39:16,641
that all honest TV viewers,
663
00:39:16,807 --> 00:39:18,525
that is almost all,
664
00:39:18,687 --> 00:39:22,316
will agree that this new format,
665
00:39:22,487 --> 00:39:27,163
involving less commentary
and letting the pictures,
666
00:39:27,327 --> 00:39:30,080
the facts, and arguments
speak for the mselves,
667
00:39:30,247 --> 00:39:33,603
will be a step towards objectivity
668
00:39:33,767 --> 00:39:35,405
and depoliticization.
669
00:39:36,447 --> 00:39:39,120
OBJECTMTY
670
00:39:40,167 --> 00:39:42,965
The information Minister's dreamcame true.
671
00:39:43,127 --> 00:39:48,520
The specialist, vouching for unbiasedand depoliticized news,
672
00:39:48,687 --> 00:39:51,838
is now a permanent guestin the TV studio,
673
00:39:52,007 --> 00:39:54,760
radio newsroom,and newspaper columns.
674
00:39:55,767 --> 00:39:57,598
They call him the "expert".
675
00:39:57,767 --> 00:40:01,316
Economist, sociologist,political scientist or intellectual,
676
00:40:01,487 --> 00:40:05,526
his academic credentialsgive his words the gloss of science.
677
00:40:06,127 --> 00:40:08,561
But the clique of experts is small,
678
00:40:08,727 --> 00:40:11,878
scarcely 30 in all the media combined.
679
00:40:12,207 --> 00:40:15,085
They zigzag from show to show,
680
00:40:15,247 --> 00:40:17,203
relaying each othe r,
681
00:40:17,367 --> 00:40:20,996
answering the questionsthat the host thinks we should ask.
682
00:40:21,407 --> 00:40:22,840
With us tonight
683
00:40:23,007 --> 00:40:25,077
is an expert French economist.
684
00:40:25,247 --> 00:40:27,203
Alain Minc, you wrote a book...
685
00:40:27,367 --> 00:40:30,200
What about 2008, Christian?
686
00:40:31,007 --> 00:40:32,998
First, it's interesting...
687
00:40:33,167 --> 00:40:36,796
We've lost touch
with the young and the over-50s.
688
00:40:37,607 --> 00:40:38,596
Monsieur Lorenzi.
689
00:40:38,767 --> 00:40:41,156
It's as clear as daylight.
690
00:40:41,327 --> 00:40:42,680
Jean-Hervé Lorenzi.
691
00:40:43,447 --> 00:40:45,881
I'm amazed we can't agree.
692
00:40:47,087 --> 00:40:49,760
Nicolas Baverez,
I'd like to ask you first.
693
00:40:49,927 --> 00:40:50,996
Nicolas Baverez,
694
00:40:51,287 --> 00:40:53,437
historian and economist,
695
00:40:53,607 --> 00:40:56,075
Jacques Attali,
President of Planete Finance.
696
00:40:57,367 --> 00:41:00,279
Jacques Attali, it's 5:47.
697
00:41:00,967 --> 00:41:04,801
We should see it as part
of a worldwide trend...
698
00:41:05,007 --> 00:41:06,326
Elie Cohen, good morning.
699
00:41:06,487 --> 00:41:09,399
Thank you for coming.
You're a research director.
700
00:41:10,447 --> 00:41:13,598
Research director
and professor at Sciences Po.
701
00:41:13,767 --> 00:41:15,803
Michel Godet, economics lecturer.
702
00:41:17,847 --> 00:41:19,917
Let's focus on one of them.
703
00:41:20,407 --> 00:41:22,159
Averagely intelligent,
704
00:41:23,207 --> 00:41:25,402
averagely well known,
705
00:41:25,567 --> 00:41:29,082
like the othe rs,he is often asked his opinion
706
00:41:29,247 --> 00:41:31,556
on TV shows, talk radio,
707
00:41:31,727 --> 00:41:34,560
and in the columnsof a major daily paper.
708
00:41:34,727 --> 00:41:36,683
This ordinary expert's name
709
00:41:36,847 --> 00:41:38,326
is Michel Godet.
710
00:41:38,487 --> 00:41:40,159
Without noticing it,
711
00:41:40,327 --> 00:41:42,795
France has practicallygrown up with him.
712
00:41:45,327 --> 00:41:48,285
In a changing world,
the rules must change too.
713
00:41:48,447 --> 00:41:51,996
We can't afford
our old industrial relations,
714
00:41:52,167 --> 00:41:55,796
our collective agreements,
our "little habits".
715
00:41:55,967 --> 00:41:58,162
In future, we may have to agree
716
00:41:58,327 --> 00:42:01,285
to take Wednesdays off
but work on Saturdays.
717
00:42:02,527 --> 00:42:06,440
We can't face the future
with agreements signed in 1945
718
00:42:06,607 --> 00:42:09,405
or even 1909, for railway workers.
719
00:42:09,567 --> 00:42:11,956
In a changing world,
the rules must change.
720
00:42:13,367 --> 00:42:16,598
How many hours do how many
people work in a lifetime?
721
00:42:16,767 --> 00:42:18,485
How much work gets done?
722
00:42:18,647 --> 00:42:21,480
If France goes on having
so few people in work,
723
00:42:21,647 --> 00:42:25,356
doing so little and retiring
so young, it doesn't add up.
724
00:42:26,527 --> 00:42:29,803
In countries where
there's less unemployment,
725
00:42:29,967 --> 00:42:32,435
more people work, and for longer.
726
00:42:32,607 --> 00:42:36,600
Rowing less hard
won't get you there faster.
727
00:42:37,887 --> 00:42:39,798
We must work earlier,
work later,
728
00:42:39,967 --> 00:42:42,561
work part-time
and be more flexible.
729
00:42:42,727 --> 00:42:45,878
Our one-size-fits-all system
must change.
730
00:42:47,127 --> 00:42:50,915
We have too few workers,
especially young and old,
731
00:42:51,087 --> 00:42:54,796
and they don't work enough.
Work creates jobs!
732
00:42:55,207 --> 00:42:56,162
Over the years,
733
00:42:56,327 --> 00:43:00,718
his exhortationsto the French to work more
734
00:43:00,887 --> 00:43:03,720
have enabled our expert,at least, to earn more.
735
00:43:05,847 --> 00:43:09,078
Thanks to his fame in the media,
736
00:43:09,247 --> 00:43:10,839
he can charge high fees
737
00:43:11,007 --> 00:43:15,478
for lecturingto companies and institutions.
738
00:43:15,647 --> 00:43:17,922
As introductions go, that was fairly...
739
00:43:18,247 --> 00:43:20,397
complimentary but unnerving.
740
00:43:20,567 --> 00:43:24,719
If he gives a lecture a month,that's 78,000 euros per year.
741
00:43:24,887 --> 00:43:28,596
Plus his salary as teacherat the National Engineering School,
742
00:43:28,767 --> 00:43:30,405
let's say 48,000,
743
00:43:30,567 --> 00:43:34,116
plus his fees as directorof a multinational company, Bongrain,
744
00:43:34,287 --> 00:43:36,403
around 25,000.
745
00:43:36,567 --> 00:43:39,639
Michel Godet earnsabout 150,000 euros per year.
746
00:43:40,407 --> 00:43:41,556
Bravo, Michel.
747
00:43:42,087 --> 00:43:43,076
150,000 euros...
748
00:43:43,247 --> 00:43:45,841
About ten timesthe minimum legal wage.
749
00:43:47,207 --> 00:43:50,244
You can get a PDF of my lecture.
750
00:43:50,407 --> 00:43:53,922
A wage which Michel Godetthinks is too high.
751
00:43:54,087 --> 00:43:55,156
Michel Godet,
752
00:43:55,327 --> 00:44:00,447
you think we should dare
to lower the minimum legal wage?
753
00:44:00,607 --> 00:44:01,881
Logically, yes.
754
00:44:02,047 --> 00:44:05,926
If we can't touch
the labor unions' privileges,
755
00:44:06,087 --> 00:44:08,840
then we can't adjust
the minimum wage,
756
00:44:09,007 --> 00:44:15,003
although in an increasingly
global market, it kills jobs
757
00:44:15,167 --> 00:44:20,195
because the worldwide cost
of unskilled labor keeps falling.
758
00:44:21,327 --> 00:44:25,320
Michel Godet is typicalof the 30-odd experts
759
00:44:25,487 --> 00:44:27,603
who dominate the media.
760
00:44:28,087 --> 00:44:29,406
Like him,
761
00:44:29,567 --> 00:44:33,116
nearly all of the mare board members of big companies,
762
00:44:33,287 --> 00:44:36,882
they work with banksand advise investment companies.
763
00:44:37,167 --> 00:44:40,637
But the se activitiesare never mentioned.
764
00:44:41,127 --> 00:44:42,879
When the media invite them,
765
00:44:43,047 --> 00:44:46,403
it is always dueto their academic credentials.
766
00:44:47,367 --> 00:44:49,835
Why do the mass media
767
00:44:50,607 --> 00:44:53,565
keep so quiet about the collusions,
768
00:44:53,727 --> 00:44:56,287
which I call "dangerous liaisons",
769
00:44:56,447 --> 00:44:59,723
between their regular guest economists
770
00:45:00,127 --> 00:45:00,923
and the business world?
771
00:45:01,087 --> 00:45:04,318
The general public,
radio listeners and TV watchers
772
00:45:04,487 --> 00:45:09,242
would regard a brilliant
academic economist very differently
773
00:45:09,407 --> 00:45:14,606
if they knew that this economist
is paid handsomely by banks,
774
00:45:14,767 --> 00:45:18,123
insurance firms, and private companies
775
00:45:18,287 --> 00:45:22,803
to sit on their boards
at the heart of decision-making.
776
00:45:22,967 --> 00:45:25,242
Elie Cohen,
thank you for coming.
777
00:45:25,407 --> 00:45:28,444
You're a research director
and economics professor...
778
00:45:31,127 --> 00:45:36,724
I don't see how anyone can claim
to be intellectually independent
779
00:45:37,167 --> 00:45:40,716
while being deeply embedded
in the world of business.
780
00:45:40,887 --> 00:45:42,639
Nowadays, we consider
781
00:45:42,807 --> 00:45:46,686
that if an expert is a member
of the Food Safety Agency
782
00:45:46,847 --> 00:45:51,477
and also on the board
of a big agribusiness company,
783
00:45:51,647 --> 00:45:53,319
there's conflict of interest.
784
00:45:53,727 --> 00:45:56,287
I think everyone agrees on that.
785
00:45:56,887 --> 00:45:59,242
Why doesn't the same criticism apply
786
00:45:59,407 --> 00:46:04,606
to economists who are paid by banks,
insurance companies and big businesses
787
00:46:04,767 --> 00:46:08,442
to increase their profits and interests?
788
00:46:08,607 --> 00:46:10,882
Isn't that a conflict of interest?
789
00:46:11,047 --> 00:46:13,686
Professor Jean-Hervé Lorenzi.
790
00:46:13,847 --> 00:46:17,157
These people say,
"We're intellectually independent"
791
00:46:17,327 --> 00:46:18,999
but we can't believe them.
792
00:46:20,247 --> 00:46:24,081
It may be hard to believethat the se experts are unbiased,
793
00:46:24,247 --> 00:46:27,523
but it's easy to guesswhere they dine
794
00:46:27,687 --> 00:46:29,518
once a month.
795
00:46:31,607 --> 00:46:33,916
Freelance economist
796
00:46:35,887 --> 00:46:39,562
Freelance economists
797
00:46:40,967 --> 00:46:41,956
Freelance economist
798
00:46:42,167 --> 00:46:45,284
Very tangibly, their job
799
00:46:46,087 --> 00:46:47,725
is to promote,
800
00:46:47,887 --> 00:46:52,756
including in the mainstream media
which they virtually monopolize,
801
00:46:53,207 --> 00:46:56,882
the prevailing economic dogma
that is capitalism.
802
00:46:58,607 --> 00:47:01,246
For the past thirty years,
803
00:47:01,407 --> 00:47:04,797
a debate has raged betweenworshippers of market forces...
804
00:47:05,607 --> 00:47:08,326
and worshippers of market forces.
805
00:47:08,487 --> 00:47:10,955
I'm delighted to see therevival
806
00:47:11,127 --> 00:47:13,721
of the idea of enterprise,
profit and the market.
807
00:47:13,887 --> 00:47:16,845
I'm thrilled to hear Alain Minc say it.
808
00:47:17,247 --> 00:47:19,283
That's good, is it?
809
00:47:19,447 --> 00:47:20,721
And new?.
810
00:47:20,887 --> 00:47:24,721
The market has always existed
but we couldn't boast about it.
811
00:47:25,287 --> 00:47:27,357
We couldn't boast and now we can?
812
00:47:29,327 --> 00:47:32,922
If you want a longer,
more comfortable life,
813
00:47:33,087 --> 00:47:35,806
which most people on this planet want,
814
00:47:35,967 --> 00:47:38,117
history shows that capitalism works.
815
00:47:39,487 --> 00:47:40,920
What is a financial market?
816
00:47:41,087 --> 00:47:44,363
As I say in my book,
it's rathe r like a farmers' market.
817
00:47:44,527 --> 00:47:48,520
Some people bring melons,
othe rs bring chickens,
818
00:47:48,687 --> 00:47:50,678
and they trade melons for chickens.
819
00:47:53,087 --> 00:47:55,760
Christian de Boissieu,
thank you for coming.
820
00:47:55,927 --> 00:47:58,999
Speaking of Christmas shopping,
821
00:47:59,167 --> 00:48:01,237
what about financial products?
822
00:48:02,567 --> 00:48:05,718
If there's a glut of chickens
and too few melons,
823
00:48:05,887 --> 00:48:07,605
the melon grower wins out.
824
00:48:08,607 --> 00:48:10,199
Are the Socialists reformists?
825
00:48:10,367 --> 00:48:12,835
Yes, at long last!
826
00:48:13,007 --> 00:48:16,317
The wording isn't fixed
but it's there in writing.
827
00:48:16,487 --> 00:48:20,162
The Socialist Party
is in the market, in globalization.
828
00:48:20,327 --> 00:48:23,080
To regulate and improve it, of course!
Not endure it.
829
00:48:23,247 --> 00:48:27,240
But it's in there, between
social democracy and social liberalism.
830
00:48:28,807 --> 00:48:30,923
For the past 3,000 years,
831
00:48:31,087 --> 00:48:34,716
the market and democracy
have advanced hand in hand.
832
00:48:35,927 --> 00:48:39,044
They are not only compatible,
but mutually beneficial.
833
00:48:39,767 --> 00:48:43,840
Your newspaper, Le Monde,
hasn't changed much in 50 years.
834
00:48:44,007 --> 00:48:45,725
Are we witnessing a revolution?
835
00:48:45,887 --> 00:48:47,559
In the mid-1990s,
836
00:48:47,727 --> 00:48:50,446
the champions of an unfettered market
837
00:48:50,607 --> 00:48:53,167
were happy to welcomea strong new ally,
838
00:48:53,767 --> 00:48:55,564
the daily newspaper Le Monde.
839
00:48:55,807 --> 00:48:58,879
Headed by a triumvirateof Jean-Marie Colombani,
840
00:48:59,047 --> 00:49:01,197
Edwy Plenel
841
00:49:01,367 --> 00:49:04,006
and Alain Minc,
842
00:49:04,167 --> 00:49:08,046
the famously independentFrench newspaper of record
843
00:49:08,207 --> 00:49:10,960
opened its columnsto experts and journalists
844
00:49:11,127 --> 00:49:13,846
preaching the gospelof neoliberal economics.
845
00:49:14,007 --> 00:49:15,076
When Le Monde
846
00:49:15,247 --> 00:49:16,680
joins the free market chorus,
847
00:49:16,847 --> 00:49:18,917
it affects the whole media scene.
848
00:49:19,087 --> 00:49:21,601
If Le Monde,
which is often called
849
00:49:21,967 --> 00:49:23,366
"the newspaper of record",
850
00:49:23,527 --> 00:49:25,563
defends the same ideas that Libération
851
00:49:25,727 --> 00:49:28,400
has defended since the 1980s
under Joffrin,
852
00:49:28,567 --> 00:49:32,719
and which the leftist fringe
of Le Figaro also defends,
853
00:49:32,887 --> 00:49:35,401
we obviously get a standardization
854
00:49:35,567 --> 00:49:38,559
of economic opinion.
It's liberalize or die.
855
00:49:38,967 --> 00:49:42,198
Le Monde is still
the paper of record.
856
00:49:42,367 --> 00:49:43,959
It's regarded as such,
857
00:49:44,127 --> 00:49:47,756
even though its editorial line
has changed considerably.
858
00:49:48,247 --> 00:49:51,080
So when those ideas
859
00:49:51,247 --> 00:49:53,966
are spread, proclaimed,
860
00:49:54,127 --> 00:49:57,915
and upheld with almost militant fervor
861
00:49:58,087 --> 00:50:01,762
by the newspaper of record,
the y're legitimized.
862
00:50:02,167 --> 00:50:04,840
In a second section of the paper,
863
00:50:05,007 --> 00:50:06,486
we aim to repair
864
00:50:06,647 --> 00:50:08,922
anothe r of our weaknesses,
865
00:50:09,087 --> 00:50:11,555
this time in the field of business news.
866
00:50:12,007 --> 00:50:18,162
As you know, the strategies of large
industrial and banking groups nowadays
867
00:50:18,327 --> 00:50:21,399
are at least as influential
as public spending.
868
00:50:21,567 --> 00:50:23,444
We want to keep up in that area,
869
00:50:23,607 --> 00:50:27,725
so business, financial and market news
will have a central place in the paper.
870
00:50:27,887 --> 00:50:32,642
They want to convert society
to a new way of living togethe r,
871
00:50:32,887 --> 00:50:35,765
a new form of economic and social life.
872
00:50:35,927 --> 00:50:38,646
But basically, society refuses it.
873
00:50:38,807 --> 00:50:40,399
For very good reasons.
874
00:50:40,567 --> 00:50:44,003
It has everything to lose.
It's plain and simple.
875
00:50:45,047 --> 00:50:48,835
As the foreseeable resistance
took shape,
876
00:50:49,007 --> 00:50:53,797
persuasion and conviction
had to be deployed
877
00:50:53,967 --> 00:50:55,161
in equal measure.
878
00:50:55,327 --> 00:50:58,603
It was time to start teaching.
879
00:50:59,247 --> 00:51:03,320
"We haven't been good enough teachers.
We need to explain."
880
00:51:06,087 --> 00:51:07,918
As the media started teaching,
881
00:51:08,087 --> 00:51:12,478
some journalists discovereda priestly vocation
882
00:51:12,647 --> 00:51:14,239
for educating the masses.
883
00:51:16,647 --> 00:51:20,242
Perhaps this country needs to be taught.
884
00:51:20,967 --> 00:51:26,280
Workers, employers,
politicians and the media too,
885
00:51:26,447 --> 00:51:29,041
at our own humble level,
886
00:51:30,967 --> 00:51:34,926
must all do a better job
of explaining the complex choices...
887
00:51:35,087 --> 00:51:38,124
In news-speak,"Explaining the complex choices"
888
00:51:39,287 --> 00:51:41,005
is a fancy way of explaining
889
00:51:42,007 --> 00:51:43,406
the need for reform.
890
00:51:44,687 --> 00:51:47,565
The word "reform"is now on everyone's lips.
891
00:51:51,607 --> 00:51:52,676
Good evening!
892
00:51:52,847 --> 00:51:57,682
Why can't we reform in France
when everyone else is doing it?
893
00:51:57,847 --> 00:52:00,156
That is our topic tonight.
894
00:52:00,327 --> 00:52:02,557
Can France reform itself?
895
00:52:02,727 --> 00:52:05,400
Can it afford not to
in this globalized era?
896
00:52:05,647 --> 00:52:09,526
How can the French be convinced
of the need for reform?
897
00:52:09,687 --> 00:52:12,804
Do you accept the need for reform?
898
00:52:12,967 --> 00:52:16,960
Why is it so hard
for France to make reforms?
899
00:52:17,367 --> 00:52:21,042
Why doesn't it work here, in France?
900
00:52:21,367 --> 00:52:25,076
People are starting to realize
that growth can't resume
901
00:52:25,247 --> 00:52:29,081
until we give up
some historic privileges.
902
00:52:29,247 --> 00:52:34,037
In therecent past,
we've fallen behind with reforms.
903
00:52:34,207 --> 00:52:36,277
That's what worries me today.
904
00:52:36,447 --> 00:52:40,599
We can't introduce a mass
of painful but necessary reforms.
905
00:52:40,767 --> 00:52:44,237
We're at the end of a cycle.
The end of a system.
906
00:52:44,407 --> 00:52:46,875
People are scared and don't want change.
907
00:52:47,047 --> 00:52:49,766
Have the French become
ultra-conservative overnight?
908
00:52:50,287 --> 00:52:52,357
They say no. They fear change.
909
00:52:52,887 --> 00:52:54,206
It's not just the fear
910
00:52:54,367 --> 00:52:57,279
of losing entitlements,
losing what one has,
911
00:52:57,447 --> 00:53:00,200
it's the fear of any change at all.
912
00:53:08,807 --> 00:53:13,005
Why does public debate
always revolve around concepts
913
00:53:13,167 --> 00:53:17,763
such as "reform", "outdated methods",
"the fall of France", "decline",
914
00:53:17,927 --> 00:53:19,997
"the French model", etc?
915
00:53:22,287 --> 00:53:26,121
I've noticed there's a small vocabulary
916
00:53:26,287 --> 00:53:29,677
of about 15 or 20 words,
917
00:53:29,847 --> 00:53:32,486
without which
all the se journalists and experts
918
00:53:32,647 --> 00:53:35,445
couldn't make a single sentence.
It's true!
919
00:53:35,607 --> 00:53:38,883
Without the word "reform",
the y're speechless.
920
00:53:39,047 --> 00:53:42,756
They can't put three words togethe r.
921
00:53:44,127 --> 00:53:48,723
In order to persuade,you need methods of persuasion.
922
00:53:49,287 --> 00:53:51,403
The media have their champions,
923
00:53:51,567 --> 00:53:54,445
tirelessly workingthe cameras and mikes.
924
00:53:55,167 --> 00:53:59,080
In the past six years,Frédéric Lordon and Jean Gadrey
925
00:53:59,327 --> 00:54:03,081
have been guests on radioand TV shows 32 times.
926
00:54:03,687 --> 00:54:04,961
During the same period,
927
00:54:05,127 --> 00:54:08,119
Jacques Attali,J-H Lorenzi and Michel Godet
928
00:54:08,287 --> 00:54:11,518
have made912 appearances altogethe r.
929
00:54:16,247 --> 00:54:20,160
Hello and welcome to the
TV and politics show
930
00:54:20,327 --> 00:54:22,795
with Eric Zemmour
and Claude Imbert.
931
00:54:24,727 --> 00:54:28,003
Even though the journalistsand experts agree on the basics,
932
00:54:28,167 --> 00:54:31,603
we still have to go throughthe motions of debate.
933
00:54:33,207 --> 00:54:37,246
The phone lines are open,
the contest can begin...
934
00:54:37,767 --> 00:54:41,555
The media regularly stage fierce duels
935
00:54:41,727 --> 00:54:43,763
between bitterly opposed debaters.
936
00:54:47,607 --> 00:54:49,802
In this talk show on LCl,
937
00:54:49,967 --> 00:54:52,720
left-wing intellectualJacques Julliard
938
00:54:52,887 --> 00:54:56,277
locks horns each weekwith right-wing philosopher Luc Ferry.
939
00:54:56,447 --> 00:55:00,076
Be warned, their wordsare shockingly violent.
940
00:55:00,407 --> 00:55:02,204
I'm sorry, Luc...
941
00:55:02,367 --> 00:55:04,676
I can't disagree with you there.
942
00:55:04,847 --> 00:55:05,962
I wish I could.
943
00:55:06,447 --> 00:55:08,483
I'd go the othe r way.
944
00:55:08,647 --> 00:55:11,844
You'll agree with me here,
as I agreed with you there.
945
00:55:12,127 --> 00:55:13,958
Like you, I'm glad
946
00:55:14,127 --> 00:55:16,516
that public opinion is so strong.
947
00:55:16,687 --> 00:55:17,642
I agree with Jacques.
948
00:55:17,807 --> 00:55:19,718
Luc is absolutely right.
949
00:55:19,887 --> 00:55:22,447
We need to explain about globalization.
950
00:55:22,607 --> 00:55:24,040
You're stealing my words.
951
00:55:25,687 --> 00:55:27,723
I have to agree about austerity.
952
00:55:29,087 --> 00:55:30,076
You're right.
953
00:55:30,287 --> 00:55:31,766
On that point,
954
00:55:33,047 --> 00:55:35,641
Luc and I won't argue very fiercely.
955
00:55:35,807 --> 00:55:37,479
I agree with Jacques.
956
00:55:38,407 --> 00:55:41,205
The constitutional treaty
should have come first,
957
00:55:41,367 --> 00:55:42,641
before enlargement.
958
00:55:42,807 --> 00:55:45,924
Give me credit for thinking like you do.
959
00:55:46,087 --> 00:55:49,636
I'm not a government minister,
but it's still my opinion.
960
00:55:49,927 --> 00:55:52,157
I rathe r agree with Jacques,
961
00:55:52,327 --> 00:55:55,239
except on one point,
which you kindly left open.
962
00:55:55,407 --> 00:55:58,717
I wouldn't equate
liberalism with communism.
963
00:55:59,767 --> 00:56:02,440
On that point, I quite agree with you.
964
00:56:02,847 --> 00:56:04,758
What we also need,
965
00:56:05,127 --> 00:56:08,961
as I'm sure Jacques agrees,
is something even tougher.
966
00:56:09,407 --> 00:56:11,557
People say
we disagree too much.
967
00:56:11,727 --> 00:56:13,718
They worry
about our relationship.
968
00:56:15,447 --> 00:56:17,358
In fact, it's excellent.
969
00:56:17,687 --> 00:56:19,996
This week, we entirely agree
970
00:56:20,687 --> 00:56:22,518
and we're not ashamed of it.
971
00:56:23,807 --> 00:56:27,686
Some articles of faith
are never questioned:
972
00:56:28,087 --> 00:56:30,203
Europe in its present shape,
973
00:56:30,687 --> 00:56:33,963
the general trend
towards market deregulation,
974
00:56:35,487 --> 00:56:37,876
also known as globalization,
975
00:56:40,007 --> 00:56:42,601
and the general scaling back,
976
00:56:42,767 --> 00:56:44,837
and in France especially,
977
00:56:45,607 --> 00:56:48,360
the quiet dismantling
of the welfare state.
978
00:56:51,167 --> 00:56:53,681
That's the boundary line.
979
00:56:53,847 --> 00:56:57,886
Some people debate within the box.
Othe rs try to change it.
980
00:56:58,047 --> 00:57:00,641
The opponents who want to change it
981
00:57:00,807 --> 00:57:03,275
are simply locked out.
982
00:57:03,447 --> 00:57:07,998
Those who are happy
to paddle around in the sandbox
983
00:57:08,167 --> 00:57:09,202
are allowed in.
984
00:57:09,367 --> 00:57:14,282
But theresulting political debate
is terribly stunted.
985
00:57:15,807 --> 00:57:17,206
For convincing the public,
986
00:57:17,727 --> 00:57:20,082
a favorite rhetorical device
987
00:57:20,367 --> 00:57:21,720
is the foreign example.
988
00:57:22,287 --> 00:57:23,515
Out there, abroad,
989
00:57:23,847 --> 00:57:26,281
in nearby or distant countries,
990
00:57:26,447 --> 00:57:28,483
we see brave choices,
991
00:57:28,647 --> 00:57:29,875
the example to follow.
992
00:57:32,807 --> 00:57:35,879
Among the foreign countriesthat wisely and bravely
993
00:57:36,047 --> 00:57:38,515
bit the bullet of reform,
994
00:57:38,687 --> 00:57:40,405
the country most cited
995
00:57:40,727 --> 00:57:42,763
by French journalists and experts
996
00:57:42,927 --> 00:57:44,360
was Great Britain.
997
00:57:44,567 --> 00:57:47,400
lts free-market swing,begun by Margaret Thatcher,
998
00:57:47,567 --> 00:57:49,797
was fervently admired.
999
00:57:56,727 --> 00:57:58,080
A political talk show
1000
00:57:58,247 --> 00:58:00,124
on June 12th 2004
1001
00:58:00,287 --> 00:58:02,164
on French public television
1002
00:58:02,327 --> 00:58:04,443
summed up the arguments
1003
00:58:04,607 --> 00:58:06,882
in favor of the British model.
1004
00:58:07,047 --> 00:58:10,835
Journalist Thierry Thuillier,future Head of News at France 2,
1005
00:58:11,007 --> 00:58:15,046
preaches the free marketwith evangelical zeal.
1006
00:58:15,207 --> 00:58:19,485
But can we be sure
that the free market model
1007
00:58:19,647 --> 00:58:22,002
would be bad for France?
1008
00:58:22,167 --> 00:58:25,318
Objectively,
we can't help noticing
1009
00:58:25,487 --> 00:58:29,082
that it has won Tony Blair
a third term in office
1010
00:58:29,247 --> 00:58:32,603
and the British economy
is thriving.
1011
00:58:32,767 --> 00:58:34,997
In France,
the Polish plumber is a bogeyman.
1012
00:58:35,167 --> 00:58:37,556
In England, he's a welcome guest.
1013
00:58:37,727 --> 00:58:40,764
We report on the British
model of integration.
1014
00:58:43,967 --> 00:58:47,596
To see for ourselveshow the UK economy is thriving,
1015
00:58:47,767 --> 00:58:49,041
we went to London
1016
00:58:49,207 --> 00:58:52,677
to meet an expert who is never invitedby French journalists.
1017
00:58:53,247 --> 00:58:54,362
Sir Michael Marmot
1018
00:58:54,527 --> 00:58:58,918
chaired the World Health Organization's2008 report
1019
00:58:59,087 --> 00:59:02,523
on social determinantsand life expectancy.
1020
00:59:54,087 --> 00:59:57,318
Professor of Epidemiology
and WHO expert
1021
00:59:59,087 --> 01:00:02,636
Seeing it works,
should we copy the English?
1022
01:00:02,807 --> 01:00:05,162
Stay with us.
1023
01:00:06,607 --> 01:00:07,801
Four years later,
1024
01:00:07,967 --> 01:00:11,516
therecession showed how wellthe UK economy was working.
1025
01:00:12,247 --> 01:00:13,999
State to therescue!
1026
01:00:14,727 --> 01:00:16,285
The Big Slide
1027
01:00:16,967 --> 01:00:18,195
Free Fall
1028
01:00:18,727 --> 01:00:20,922
On the morning of Sept. 15th 2008,
1029
01:00:21,087 --> 01:00:24,363
the media woke up aghastto a huge financial crisis
1030
01:00:24,527 --> 01:00:27,837
which threw over 64 million peopleinto deep poverty
1031
01:00:28,007 --> 01:00:29,520
all over the world.
1032
01:00:29,687 --> 01:00:33,077
Too busy hailingthe rosy dawn of liberalism,
1033
01:00:33,727 --> 01:00:35,763
the experts were caught napping.
1034
01:00:36,607 --> 01:00:40,839
One of their best-knownand influential faces,
1035
01:00:41,007 --> 01:00:43,202
and equally caught napping,
1036
01:00:43,367 --> 01:00:44,595
was Alain Minc.
1037
01:00:44,807 --> 01:00:48,800
While Michel Godet has been playingJoe Expert for 30 years,
1038
01:00:48,967 --> 01:00:52,960
Alain Minc has been battingin a different league.
1039
01:00:53,127 --> 01:00:57,518
Alain Minc, on page 230
you call yourself a left-wing liberal.
1040
01:00:57,687 --> 01:00:59,325
What does that mean?
1041
01:00:59,487 --> 01:01:00,715
Good question!
1042
01:01:02,207 --> 01:01:04,243
Alain Minc is one of the brightest...
1043
01:01:04,407 --> 01:01:06,045
This über-expert
1044
01:01:06,207 --> 01:01:10,041
advises business leaders,ministers and heads of state.
1045
01:01:10,607 --> 01:01:13,883
In the media, he is onstageand also backstage.
1046
01:01:14,647 --> 01:01:18,799
Onstage, he appears on book programsand political talk shows.
1047
01:01:19,327 --> 01:01:24,162
Backstage, he chairsthe supervisory board of Le Monde
1048
01:01:24,327 --> 01:01:27,524
and is the brains behindmany media group managers.
1049
01:01:28,647 --> 01:01:31,445
In 2005, his friend Vincent Bolloré,
1050
01:01:31,607 --> 01:01:33,837
friend of his friend Nicolas Sarkozy,
1051
01:01:34,007 --> 01:01:37,716
gave him a showon his newly created TV channel.
1052
01:01:39,687 --> 01:01:42,247
Good evening
and Happy New Year.
1053
01:01:42,407 --> 01:01:44,204
January 5th, 2008.
1054
01:01:44,567 --> 01:01:45,522
Minc invited
1055
01:01:45,687 --> 01:01:47,837
the inevitableChristian de Boissieu.
1056
01:01:48,527 --> 01:01:52,076
They discussedthe American subprimes crisis
1057
01:01:52,247 --> 01:01:54,715
that led 9 months later,as we know,
1058
01:01:54,887 --> 01:01:58,596
to the financial market meltdownin September 2008.
1059
01:01:59,127 --> 01:02:01,880
I'd like to qualify
your comments.
1060
01:02:02,047 --> 01:02:05,244
I'm with you 95%,
1061
01:02:05,407 --> 01:02:08,126
but I'll use my 5%
of intellectual freedom
1062
01:02:08,287 --> 01:02:11,882
to point out the amazing
flexibility of the system.
1063
01:02:12,327 --> 01:02:13,806
It goes to show
1064
01:02:14,487 --> 01:02:16,796
that the financial system
1065
01:02:16,967 --> 01:02:19,276
is so finely regulated
1066
01:02:20,407 --> 01:02:22,238
that it averted a crisis
1067
01:02:22,407 --> 01:02:26,719
which could have been
as bad as the big financial crises
1068
01:02:27,007 --> 01:02:30,238
we've seen in the past.
1069
01:02:30,927 --> 01:02:35,842
Deep down,
it's a very resilient system.
1070
01:02:36,687 --> 01:02:40,077
It's not regulated
by any visible body,
1071
01:02:40,247 --> 01:02:42,807
but it's very well regulated
all the same.
1072
01:02:43,207 --> 01:02:46,563
The interplay between central banks
and governments...
1073
01:02:46,727 --> 01:02:49,446
In reality, empiricism
1074
01:02:49,607 --> 01:02:52,167
prevails over ideological stances
1075
01:02:52,327 --> 01:02:55,524
and the world economy
is pretty well run.
1076
01:02:57,127 --> 01:02:58,845
That's vintage Minc.
1077
01:02:59,127 --> 01:03:00,799
He's in top form.
1078
01:03:01,647 --> 01:03:05,879
Everything points
to therecession of the century,
1079
01:03:06,047 --> 01:03:08,356
all the signs are there,
1080
01:03:08,527 --> 01:03:11,758
but the system is resilient,
it will take it in its stride,
1081
01:03:11,967 --> 01:03:15,084
we'll glide on through
and growth will resume.
1082
01:03:15,287 --> 01:03:19,041
There's a body
of intellectual speculation
1083
01:03:19,207 --> 01:03:22,563
that always makes
the same enormous mistakes.
1084
01:03:22,767 --> 01:03:24,359
It ought to be punished.
1085
01:03:24,527 --> 01:03:26,245
Not financially,
1086
01:03:26,407 --> 01:03:28,716
but there should come a point
1087
01:03:29,527 --> 01:03:32,678
when the democratic system
bans those people
1088
01:03:32,847 --> 01:03:37,284
from the positions they hold
as top experts,
1089
01:03:37,447 --> 01:03:39,597
high priests and speakers of truth.
1090
01:03:39,767 --> 01:03:41,120
They're anything but.
1091
01:03:41,287 --> 01:03:44,040
This crisis is a prime example.
1092
01:03:44,207 --> 01:03:46,198
It took by surprise,
1093
01:03:46,847 --> 01:03:49,156
as that clip shows very well,
1094
01:03:49,447 --> 01:03:52,439
all those people
who'd been saying for 20 years
1095
01:03:52,607 --> 01:03:55,440
that deregulation was the best system.
1096
01:03:56,207 --> 01:03:59,005
It's a vivid demonstration
1097
01:03:59,167 --> 01:04:01,476
of a colossal mistake.
1098
01:04:03,087 --> 01:04:05,840
Six months later,on June 7th 2008,
1099
01:04:06,207 --> 01:04:09,358
Alain Minc displayed the same optimism.
1100
01:04:09,527 --> 01:04:12,121
He invitedanothe r famous expert, Daniel Cohen,
1101
01:04:12,287 --> 01:04:14,005
editorial writer for Le Monde
1102
01:04:14,167 --> 01:04:15,919
and adviser to Lazard bank.
1103
01:04:16,087 --> 01:04:17,042
June 7th
1104
01:04:17,207 --> 01:04:20,643
was three monthsbefore the September 2008 crash.
1105
01:04:20,807 --> 01:04:24,197
I probably shouldn't call him
"the best economist in France"
1106
01:04:24,367 --> 01:04:28,280
after Giscard d'Estaing
gave that title to Raymond Barre.
1107
01:04:28,447 --> 01:04:30,881
I'd be going too far,
1108
01:04:31,047 --> 01:04:32,321
but I'd be glad to hear
1109
01:04:32,487 --> 01:04:35,638
his diagnosis
of this peculiar economic moment.
1110
01:04:36,327 --> 01:04:37,919
I agree with you
1111
01:04:38,087 --> 01:04:39,805
that the financial crisis
1112
01:04:39,967 --> 01:04:43,323
is not entirely finished
but the worst is over.
1113
01:04:43,487 --> 01:04:45,921
That is, the risk...
1114
01:04:46,087 --> 01:04:50,763
The risk that the financial crisis
would spark a systemic crisis
1115
01:04:50,927 --> 01:04:54,237
with banks going down
like dominoes, seems to be averted.
1116
01:04:54,407 --> 01:04:58,878
Here again the situation makes us ask,
1117
01:04:59,487 --> 01:05:04,163
if France's best economist
in the eyes of Alain Minc
1118
01:05:04,527 --> 01:05:09,317
can be so far wrong
in June 2008,
1119
01:05:09,927 --> 01:05:12,316
is the whole profession doomed?
1120
01:05:12,487 --> 01:05:15,399
Did nobody see it coming?
1121
01:05:15,887 --> 01:05:16,842
No.
1122
01:05:17,007 --> 01:05:19,202
In all fairness, it has to be said
1123
01:05:19,367 --> 01:05:21,881
that some people,
including some economists
1124
01:05:22,047 --> 01:05:24,641
had seen it coming for years.
1125
01:05:25,287 --> 01:05:29,075
thereal question is,
why are the people who get interviewed
1126
01:05:29,247 --> 01:05:32,796
always the ones least critical
of the basis of the system?
1127
01:05:34,367 --> 01:05:37,086
Daniel Cohen didn't see it coming.
1128
01:05:37,247 --> 01:05:40,876
There's a persistence in error
1129
01:05:41,047 --> 01:05:45,040
that is met with persistent leniency.
1130
01:05:45,207 --> 01:05:47,198
They can say whatever they like.
1131
01:05:50,047 --> 01:05:51,958
Those guys are rustproof.
1132
01:05:52,127 --> 01:05:55,483
You wonder what
the y'd have to come out with
1133
01:05:55,887 --> 01:05:57,798
to make the media finally say,
1134
01:05:57,967 --> 01:06:02,085
"You're a good old boy
but let's face it,
1135
01:06:02,247 --> 01:06:04,602
we can't ask you here again."
1136
01:06:06,967 --> 01:06:09,276
Of course, the opposite happened.
1137
01:06:09,447 --> 01:06:11,756
The same experts glossed the collapse
1138
01:06:11,927 --> 01:06:14,157
of a system the y'd previously praised.
1139
01:06:14,847 --> 01:06:16,963
They spoke even more than before.
1140
01:06:17,567 --> 01:06:20,400
From September 2008 to December 2010,
1141
01:06:20,567 --> 01:06:21,238
Alain Minc,
1142
01:06:21,407 --> 01:06:23,443
Christian de Boissieuand Daniel Cohen
1143
01:06:23,607 --> 01:06:25,120
between the m
1144
01:06:25,287 --> 01:06:28,597
spoke 332 timeson the radio and TV .
1145
01:06:29,207 --> 01:06:31,118
Frédéric Lordonand Jean Gadrey
1146
01:06:31,287 --> 01:06:33,562
were invited only 21 times.
1147
01:06:33,847 --> 01:06:35,166
Clearly, because
1148
01:06:35,327 --> 01:06:36,885
the unions
are behind the times
1149
01:06:37,047 --> 01:06:40,084
we're the only big country
which refuses
1150
01:06:40,247 --> 01:06:43,205
to tackle the issue
of workers' privileges.
1151
01:06:43,367 --> 01:06:46,006
Until we grasp the basic problem
1152
01:06:46,287 --> 01:06:49,359
that the French cannot accept the fact
1153
01:06:49,607 --> 01:06:51,598
that society needs deep reform,
1154
01:06:51,847 --> 01:06:55,556
the question will always remain.
1155
01:06:55,727 --> 01:06:59,436
French rigidity stops us
developing towards
1156
01:06:59,607 --> 01:07:02,804
the gradual expansion
of the market and democracy.
1157
01:07:02,967 --> 01:07:05,435
So France
is in a strange position where
1158
01:07:05,887 --> 01:07:09,641
some people bring melons
and othe rs bring chickens
1159
01:07:09,807 --> 01:07:11,923
and they trade melons for chickens.
1160
01:07:19,847 --> 01:07:23,920
"When bourgeois ideas came to be seen
as products of timeless reason
1161
01:07:24,527 --> 01:07:28,315
"and no longer
as shaky historical constructs,
1162
01:07:29,207 --> 01:07:33,280
"they had the best chance
of surviving and resisting attack.
1163
01:07:34,367 --> 01:07:38,155
"Everyone forgot the circumstances
that engendered the m
1164
01:07:38,327 --> 01:07:40,602
and also made them mortal."
1165
01:07:45,967 --> 01:07:49,676
When the Government wishes
to defend its point of view,
1166
01:07:49,847 --> 01:07:52,600
it will do it openly,
1167
01:07:52,767 --> 01:07:55,804
through a qualified spokesman.
1168
01:07:55,967 --> 01:07:59,437
How will this spokesman
express himself?
1169
01:07:59,607 --> 01:08:02,644
In a televised speech,
a statement, or what?
1170
01:08:02,807 --> 01:08:06,197
He might make a statement
1171
01:08:06,367 --> 01:08:11,395
but whenever possible,
we will hold an open debate
1172
01:08:11,567 --> 01:08:14,365
between the various points of view
1173
01:08:14,527 --> 01:08:18,645
in order to respect
the freedom of information
1174
01:08:18,807 --> 01:08:21,401
and opinion of all French people.
1175
01:08:25,007 --> 01:08:29,842
We may smile to see Alain Peyrefittedefending pluralism of opinion
1176
01:08:30,087 --> 01:08:35,480
while imposing his Government's changeson the TV news.
1177
01:08:38,207 --> 01:08:39,606
Fifty years on,
1178
01:08:39,767 --> 01:08:42,042
journalists still hark backto that era
1179
01:08:42,687 --> 01:08:46,885
when they praise the so-calledpluralism of today's media.
1180
01:08:47,647 --> 01:08:49,717
We had the De Gaulle era,
1181
01:08:50,247 --> 01:08:53,444
the Ministry of Information era...
1182
01:08:53,607 --> 01:08:55,518
We still have a Minister of Culture
1183
01:08:55,687 --> 01:08:56,915
and Communication
1184
01:08:58,607 --> 01:09:00,563
but he's not so important now?.
1185
01:09:00,727 --> 01:09:01,762
No, thank goodness.
1186
01:09:02,487 --> 01:09:07,322
Nowadays, they have
to contend with competition.
1187
01:09:07,487 --> 01:09:11,639
Back then, we had only two
TV channels. Now there are dozens.
1188
01:09:11,807 --> 01:09:15,436
We had three important radio stations.
Now there are hundreds.
1189
01:09:15,607 --> 01:09:17,279
Now there's the Internet.
1190
01:09:18,287 --> 01:09:21,120
Nothing can be hushed up for long.
1191
01:09:21,287 --> 01:09:22,686
There's always competition
1192
01:09:23,127 --> 01:09:26,199
and therefore logically, necessarily,
1193
01:09:26,367 --> 01:09:30,201
there's more real independence
than back then.
1194
01:09:30,367 --> 01:09:34,155
Not because politicians are more
virtuous or journalists are smarter,
1195
01:09:34,327 --> 01:09:37,205
but competition has forced it on them,
thank God.
1196
01:09:37,367 --> 01:09:40,518
Now the news can't do without it.
1197
01:09:40,967 --> 01:09:44,403
For Alain Duhameland most othe rjournalists,
1198
01:09:44,567 --> 01:09:47,525
competition is the ideal modelthat safeguards
1199
01:09:47,687 --> 01:09:49,996
their independence.
1200
01:09:51,727 --> 01:09:55,879
But it's no wonder that Alain Duhamelsees only good in the news market.
1201
01:09:56,687 --> 01:09:59,520
He is one of those who have reaped
1202
01:09:59,687 --> 01:10:03,316
the richest rewardsfrom the growth of the news media.
1203
01:10:03,487 --> 01:10:05,955
Every news show I appear on...
1204
01:10:08,207 --> 01:10:12,200
He started out in public broadcastingin the days of Alain Peyrefitte.
1205
01:10:13,567 --> 01:10:17,276
While pursuing a rustproof careeras a presidential interviewer,
1206
01:10:18,127 --> 01:10:21,676
he embodied his own varietyof media pluralism.
1207
01:10:22,247 --> 01:10:23,600
In the early 2000s,
1208
01:10:23,767 --> 01:10:27,680
he sold his editorialsto ten media outlets at a time:
1209
01:10:28,007 --> 01:10:29,440
France 2, Canal+,
1210
01:10:29,607 --> 01:10:31,040
RTL, Libération,
1211
01:10:31,207 --> 01:10:32,606
Le Point, Nice Matin,
1212
01:10:32,767 --> 01:10:34,917
Les DNA, Le Maine Libre,
1213
01:10:35,087 --> 01:10:37,203
Le Courrier de I'Ouest, Presse Océan.
1214
01:10:37,887 --> 01:10:42,642
He's unlikely to bite the handof a market that's fed him so well.
1215
01:10:44,687 --> 01:10:47,201
SIGNING SESSION
1216
01:10:47,367 --> 01:10:48,880
For Renaud Lambert, please.
1217
01:10:49,047 --> 01:10:50,639
L-A-M-B-E-R-T?
1218
01:10:52,087 --> 01:10:53,600
What do you do?
1219
01:10:53,767 --> 01:10:58,238
I studied journalism.
You've always been an example.
1220
01:10:58,607 --> 01:11:01,201
We watched and listened to you a lot
1221
01:11:01,367 --> 01:11:03,164
and discussed you in class.
1222
01:11:04,407 --> 01:11:06,318
I'm very pleased to meet you.
1223
01:11:12,127 --> 01:11:14,960
Why did you ask him to sign your book?
1224
01:11:16,447 --> 01:11:18,597
I'm studying journalism...
1225
01:11:19,447 --> 01:11:22,723
Alain Duhamel is one of my heroes.
1226
01:11:23,087 --> 01:11:29,276
His trademark style is asking questions
that let people get on with the job.
1227
01:11:29,447 --> 01:11:33,326
Like when Nicolas Sarkozy met the press.
1228
01:11:34,047 --> 01:11:36,322
It's a school in itself.
1229
01:11:36,887 --> 01:11:39,560
Your first questioner is Alain Duhamel.
1230
01:11:41,807 --> 01:11:44,162
Unfortunately,the market has no feelings
1231
01:11:45,007 --> 01:11:48,158
and Alain Duhamel has reached
1232
01:11:48,367 --> 01:11:49,516
his sell-by date.
1233
01:11:50,927 --> 01:11:52,246
If I may!
1234
01:11:54,327 --> 01:11:56,841
Will you cap public borrowing?
1235
01:11:57,007 --> 01:11:58,838
With competition, the media
1236
01:11:59,007 --> 01:12:02,124
have to keep trading
1237
01:12:02,847 --> 01:12:05,202
new faces for old.
1238
01:12:06,567 --> 01:12:11,163
Ageing stars are usually replacedby equivalent models
1239
01:12:11,727 --> 01:12:13,479
who talk the same talk.
1240
01:12:14,247 --> 01:12:17,478
But to win othe r audiencesand gain market share,
1241
01:12:17,647 --> 01:12:19,160
the media sometimes bank
1242
01:12:19,327 --> 01:12:22,478
on more impetuous,outspoken characters.
1243
01:12:22,647 --> 01:12:24,444
Even rebels, if need be.
1244
01:12:26,887 --> 01:12:28,605
Michel Field
1245
01:12:28,767 --> 01:12:32,157
is one such journalistchosen for his rebellious image.
1246
01:12:33,207 --> 01:12:37,325
His career is the banal storyof therebel who fell into line.
1247
01:12:37,607 --> 01:12:42,044
As militant revolutionaries,
we believe we'll change society.
1248
01:12:42,207 --> 01:12:46,086
The people we're fighting
will make us use force.
1249
01:12:46,247 --> 01:12:49,478
We don't rule out armed struggle.
1250
01:12:52,207 --> 01:12:55,438
Michel Field sells his militant image
1251
01:12:55,607 --> 01:12:57,120
on public television.
1252
01:12:58,727 --> 01:13:00,638
We see him late at night
1253
01:13:00,807 --> 01:13:03,116
discussing philosopher Félix Guattari
1254
01:13:03,287 --> 01:13:05,755
with former Red Brigades memberToni Negri.
1255
01:13:09,127 --> 01:13:10,037
Ten years later,
1256
01:13:10,207 --> 01:13:12,721
his talk show guests have changed.
1257
01:13:13,047 --> 01:13:16,198
He picks up the phone, live on air,
1258
01:13:16,367 --> 01:13:17,641
and calls in the police.
1259
01:13:17,807 --> 01:13:20,526
There's a growing demand
from our fellow citizens
1260
01:13:20,687 --> 01:13:23,326
for a basic right to law and order.
1261
01:13:23,487 --> 01:13:27,116
Over time,Michel Field has skillfully adopted
1262
01:13:27,287 --> 01:13:29,482
the habits of his fellow stars.
1263
01:13:29,687 --> 01:13:32,247
Casino is a great group.
It's yours.
1264
01:13:35,207 --> 01:13:39,166
We can't wait to see
the se new products on the shelves.
1265
01:13:39,327 --> 01:13:43,320
Michel,
here's a standard checkout sign...
1266
01:13:43,487 --> 01:13:44,681
I recognize it.
1267
01:13:44,847 --> 01:13:47,566
And here's our new one.
1268
01:13:47,727 --> 01:13:48,796
"Next Smile"
1269
01:13:49,447 --> 01:13:53,326
Five years on,Michel Field hosts a UMPparty rally
1270
01:13:53,487 --> 01:13:55,955
urging "Yes"to the European Constitution.
1271
01:13:56,127 --> 01:13:58,357
Please welcome Arnaud Lagardere.
1272
01:13:59,167 --> 01:14:02,603
He brings on Arnaud Lagardere,the owner of the radio station
1273
01:14:02,767 --> 01:14:04,723
for which he works.
1274
01:14:08,407 --> 01:14:10,079
Michel Field welcomes you
1275
01:14:10,247 --> 01:14:12,044
to the Discovery Café
1276
01:14:12,287 --> 01:14:13,083
on Europe 1.
1277
01:14:13,247 --> 01:14:15,920
We find him in the early afternoon,
1278
01:14:16,087 --> 01:14:17,998
swapping childhood dreams
1279
01:14:18,167 --> 01:14:19,202
with Claire Chazal.
1280
01:14:19,367 --> 01:14:21,801
What started your love of dance?
1281
01:14:22,047 --> 01:14:23,526
Since I was young...
1282
01:14:23,687 --> 01:14:26,520
You've guessed where Michel Field
1283
01:14:26,687 --> 01:14:28,917
has dinner once a month.
1284
01:14:32,167 --> 01:14:32,997
Pseudo-rebel
1285
01:14:33,167 --> 01:14:38,764
Naturally, Michel Field is notthe only pseudo-rebel on the airwaves.
1286
01:14:38,927 --> 01:14:41,202
The market churns them out.
1287
01:14:41,367 --> 01:14:44,404
Revolutionaries of the world,
1288
01:14:44,567 --> 01:14:45,886
disunite!
1289
01:14:46,047 --> 01:14:48,607
With no leader or star,
you can't be caught.
1290
01:14:48,767 --> 01:14:51,600
Get your kicks demolishing power.
1291
01:14:51,767 --> 01:14:54,235
One of the most successfulis Philippe Val.
1292
01:14:54,407 --> 01:14:56,443
His image as a protest singer
1293
01:14:57,087 --> 01:15:00,762
earned him the top jobat satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo.
1294
01:15:00,927 --> 01:15:02,519
The press is sad.
1295
01:15:03,007 --> 01:15:09,446
It's sad because it's full
of lukewarm, cautious, boring stuff.
1296
01:15:09,607 --> 01:15:12,917
There's not much humor in the press.
1297
01:15:13,887 --> 01:15:15,684
We see him late at night
1298
01:15:16,247 --> 01:15:17,680
with Michel Field,
1299
01:15:18,167 --> 01:15:20,522
boasting about making fun of TF1.
1300
01:15:21,047 --> 01:15:24,403
- You stitched them up.
- They got it in the ass!
1301
01:15:24,727 --> 01:15:25,716
Twenty years later...
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Media news:
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Val is named head of France lnter radioby the director of Radio France,
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himself directly appointedby President Sarkozy.
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He quickly fired two humorists
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who were deemedtoo cocky by the powers that be.
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You can mix genres
but you have to be careful.
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Give me one example
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of a journalist
who started out
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as you might say a rebel,
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a non-conformist,
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who wasn't eithe r
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quietly dropped or bought.
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There's no alternative.
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The system spits out
everything it can't digest.
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You can't sit in the presenter's chair
without paying for it somehow.
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All the top channels for all the family.
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Seven sports channels by satellite.
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The news market,
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instead of providing pluralism,
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manufactures a handfulof celebrity journalists
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that the media compete to grab
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to boost their market share.
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For the se roving journalists,
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hopping betweenpublic and private outlets
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to suit their careers,
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there are two rules:
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Push the brand
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but never disparagea potential future employer.
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The Difference Is Independence.
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Why did you move
from France Inter to Europe 1
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after saying, "I don't accept offers
from privately-owned stations.
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"I get up at 3 a.m. because I like it
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and I believe in public broadcasting."
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Don't you know Europe 1
is owned by Lagardere?
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A friend at Radio France
once said to me,
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"Your family is the radio,
first and foremost."
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- Didn't you know it two years ago?
- Of course I did.
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But you've followed the same path,
Marc-Olivier Fogiel.
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A career is made of accelerations,
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some splits, and continuity.
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We've heard you speak out
for public broadcasting too.
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01:17:37,327 --> 01:17:40,842
But I didn't say, like you did,
that it fascinated me.
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I didn't say
it's the only place I want to work.
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There are certainly big differences
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between public and private broadcasters
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but the gap is shrinking.
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One symptom of the situation
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is the way the celebrities
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of private TV and radio networks
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casually transfer the mselves
to the public networks and vice-versa.
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01:18:10,207 --> 01:18:13,836
When the leading players care so little
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01:18:14,007 --> 01:18:17,079
about the role
of public broadcasting,
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it signifies a big step backwards.
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Speaking of players and transfers,winter 2010-2011 was a transfer window
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that FIFA would have envied.
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Jacques Julliard kicked off.
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Disappointed by Denis Olivennes,
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he left Le Nouvel Observateurto join Marianne.
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Laurent Joffrin quit Libération
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to replace Olivennes,
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who took over the captaincy of Europe 1
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from Alexandre Bompard,
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who became CEO of La Fnac,
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the job vacated by Denis Olivennesa few months earlier.
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Early in the New Year,
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Nicolas Poincaré left France lnfo
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for Europe 1,
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replacing Nicolas Demorand,
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who took the helm of Libération,
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01:19:10,727 --> 01:19:13,400
while Arlette Chabot left France 2
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to become editor-in-chief at Europe 1.
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At the same time Erik lzraelewicz,
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after stints at Les Echosand La Tribune,
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returned to Le Monde
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to replace Eric Fottorino as director.
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That is what"pluralism of information" is made of.
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A game of musical chairsby a few interchangeable journalists
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who feel at home everywhere.
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At first, we had only two TV channels.
Now there are dozens!
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We had three important radio stations.
Now there are hundreds!
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Now there's the Internet.
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Nothing can be hushed up for long.
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As Duhamel keeps saying,
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the multiplication of media outletsensures pluralism of information.
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But when competition is king,news is a product that has to be sold.
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One kind of informationis easy to make,
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very cost-effective,
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and sold everywhere.
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THE LAW AND ORDER SHOW
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Delinquency and violence
are rarely out of the news nowadays.
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A worrying rise
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in violence in nursery
and elementary schools...
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"Baby thugs",
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the rarely reported issue
of violent 3 to 13-year-olds.
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The police call the rise "alarming".
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As we all know,
delinquency has risen this year...
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A rise in casual crimes with violence...
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But this trend has not dispelled
the sense of insecurity.
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In Cherbourg, for example,
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the shopkeepers are sick
of robberies and vandalism.
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Don't panic,
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but the holiday period
is fraught with danger.
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First, this horrific murder...
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A ghastly tragedy in Marseilles...
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The women
were savagely murdered...
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For planning to kidnap, rape
and torture a young girl...
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Missing? Kidnapped?
Alive or dead?
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Casual crime is a key issue
five months before the elections.
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Over the years, crime stories
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have come to hog the headlinesof newspapers, radio and TV .
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This was confirmed by a reportpublished in June 2009
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by the National Audiovisual institute'sstatistics office.
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In the past ten years,on the six terrestrial TV networks,
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coverage of murdersand othe r forms of violence
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has increased fourfold.
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The sickening case
of pedophilia in Boulogne,
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where several siblings
were rented out for sex...
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They look like ordinary people.
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Taxi driver, baker's wife, clergyman...
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Seventeen adults have been charged
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with raping
up to twenty children for years
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and perhaps even prostituting them.
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The Outreau pedophilia trialwas easily the most reported case
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in the past ten years.
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During the eight-week trial,
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the four main national dailies
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- Le Monde, Le Figaro,Libération and Le Parisien -
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led with the crime story 24 times
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and devoted 343 articles to it.
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Over the same period,
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they printed just three articleson a report by the WHO
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establishing that bad air and water
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kill over three millionchildren under five each year.
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Court hearing in camera
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Dominique Weil was one of 13defendants who were acquitted.
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He's a worker priest who livedfor 15 years in the housing complex
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that featured so largely in the news.
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This was in Le Parisien:
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"The Outreau drama is set against
a backdrop of social deprivation
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"in an area where alcoholism,
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01:23:20,807 --> 01:23:23,196
"incestuous behavior and pedophilia
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are almost part of the culture."
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01:23:32,167 --> 01:23:33,441
In Le Monde:
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01:23:33,927 --> 01:23:37,203
"There are five or six
similar cases in Boulogne.
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01:23:38,087 --> 01:23:42,046
"It's like a gangrenous infection
in the housing complexes.
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01:23:42,447 --> 01:23:45,678
You toss back a kid
like you toss back a beer."
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01:23:46,527 --> 01:23:51,203
"Is Outreau's drab housing complex
under a curse?
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01:23:52,287 --> 01:23:53,800
"More probably,
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"like many similar complexes
in northwest France and elsewhere,
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01:23:58,927 --> 01:24:02,078
"it's the victim of an explosive blend
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"of unemployment, alcohol,
idleness and squalor.
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Incest is never far away."
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01:24:10,607 --> 01:24:12,040
That was in Le Figaro.
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01:24:12,807 --> 01:24:14,126
No comment.
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It reveals a general state of mind.
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They distort thereality
of that housing complex
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and the people living there
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and portray it as a ghetto
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full of the scum of the earth.
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It's classic. A classic case.
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When they write about La Courneuve
or Vaux-en-Velin,
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that's the way
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journalists describe
whole neighborhoods.
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When they say "the suburbs",
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that's what people think.
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The "criminal class".
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I think we're seeing a revival
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of this kind of language.
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Even if it's never said, it's implied.
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01:25:05,127 --> 01:25:07,436
In speeches, articles,
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conversations...
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It's never said clearly
but it's implied.
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The sensitive
Madeleine district
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is still controlled by rioters...
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Ariane, a sensitive district in Nice,
is deserted...
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01:25:22,447 --> 01:25:23,562
At 4pm yesterday,
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in the sensitive district
of Orgemont...
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The Police Intelligence Service
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sets the number of sensitive districts
much higher.
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DRAGNET
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The areas wherethe poorest classes live
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01:25:36,847 --> 01:25:39,566
have become a well of crime stories.
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01:25:40,607 --> 01:25:41,881
Day after day,
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year after year,
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the media have ignoredthe social and economic facts
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and focused entirelyon stories about drugs,
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delinquency, immigration
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and violence.
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Soon this block will be torn down.
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01:25:58,287 --> 01:26:01,723
Meanwhile, it's the biggest
cannabis market in France.
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This housing complex
in the south of Paris
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has been the scene
of daily violence for months.
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Burned cars, muggings,
supermarket robberies...
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In a housing complex rife
with poverty, unemployment,
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01:26:14,767 --> 01:26:17,440
lawlessness,
and inward-looking communities,
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01:26:17,607 --> 01:26:19,165
the social and moral rules
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01:26:19,327 --> 01:26:23,445
are set by the majority religion
in this town, which is Islam.
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01:26:24,047 --> 01:26:25,799
Clichy-sous-Bois is ablaze again...
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When revolts break outin the se poor areas,
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as in October 2005 and November 2007,
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the media send in a barrageof cameras, mikes and reporters
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to film the burning carsand flash-ball volleys.
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01:26:40,207 --> 01:26:45,122
The media have pondered
the causes of such violence.
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01:26:45,287 --> 01:26:47,403
Organized criminal gangs
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or idle, uneducated youths
accustomed to poverty
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01:26:51,167 --> 01:26:52,361
and gratuitous violence.
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01:26:52,527 --> 01:26:55,724
The causes suggestedby the journalists
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01:26:55,887 --> 01:26:57,923
rarely contradict the image
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01:26:58,447 --> 01:27:01,405
that they carefully constructof disoriented youth
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01:27:01,847 --> 01:27:05,123
and sectarian communitiesbreaking the law.
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The call for law and orderis never far behind.
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01:27:11,367 --> 01:27:13,119
Samir Mihi,
can you say right now
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01:27:13,287 --> 01:27:16,279
to the young people of Clichy,
"Stop the burning"?
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01:27:16,447 --> 01:27:18,642
We say it every day.
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01:27:18,807 --> 01:27:20,160
Can we hear you say it?
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01:27:20,927 --> 01:27:23,236
Can you tell them, "Go home tonight
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01:27:23,407 --> 01:27:25,875
and we'll get things done later"?
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01:27:26,047 --> 01:27:30,040
The ones in the street
aren't watching TV , so what's the point?
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Joking aside...
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01:27:34,447 --> 01:27:35,641
I'm not joking.
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01:27:36,167 --> 01:27:37,805
What you're asking me is...
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01:27:37,967 --> 01:27:40,845
People in Clichy will see cars burning
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01:27:41,007 --> 01:27:43,396
and have horrible experiences...
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01:27:43,567 --> 01:27:45,444
You're implying we didn't.
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01:27:45,607 --> 01:27:46,801
We already said it!
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01:27:47,047 --> 01:27:50,164
Are you afraid to call
for a state of calm?
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01:27:50,327 --> 01:27:51,316
I'm calm.
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01:27:51,487 --> 01:27:52,556
You are.
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01:27:53,447 --> 01:27:55,005
You know what I'm saying.
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01:27:55,167 --> 01:27:57,965
You seem unable to say clearly
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to the kids who are probably
on the streets as we speak,
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01:28:02,007 --> 01:28:04,441
"Go home. Don't burn
the town down."
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01:28:06,007 --> 01:28:07,645
You agree it makes sense,
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01:28:07,807 --> 01:28:10,799
when young people are on the streets
and it's dangerous,
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01:28:10,967 --> 01:28:12,036
to say "Go home!"
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01:28:12,207 --> 01:28:14,004
Editorial chieftains
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01:28:14,247 --> 01:28:16,602
think and behave like elites.
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01:28:16,767 --> 01:28:22,444
They think and behave
like elites who are above the people
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01:28:22,607 --> 01:28:24,882
and have the job of educating them.
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01:28:25,047 --> 01:28:28,960
Educating the people
means teaching them to keep quiet,
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01:28:29,127 --> 01:28:31,197
teaching the status quo,
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01:28:31,367 --> 01:28:35,883
ignoring the violence
of social injustice
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01:28:36,047 --> 01:28:38,607
but condemning
such "violent" acts of revolt
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01:28:38,767 --> 01:28:40,997
as breaking a shop window.
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01:28:41,167 --> 01:28:45,080
These editorial chieftains
are the more or less efficient,
1547
01:28:45,887 --> 01:28:48,037
more or less convincing,
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01:28:48,207 --> 01:28:51,040
but always visible
guardians of the existing social order.
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01:28:51,207 --> 01:28:53,437
Tonight, will you repeat
1550
01:28:53,607 --> 01:28:55,757
your call for calm
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01:28:55,927 --> 01:28:58,236
in all the troubled neighborhoods?
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01:28:58,927 --> 01:28:59,996
Can we allow
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that the illegitimate exploitation
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01:29:05,287 --> 01:29:07,562
and scorn heaped on the se people
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01:29:07,727 --> 01:29:11,356
may be matched
by a legitimate violence,
1556
01:29:11,527 --> 01:29:14,280
the necessary violence of revolt?
1557
01:29:14,447 --> 01:29:15,880
That's the crux of it.
1558
01:29:16,047 --> 01:29:18,925
The symbolic violence
is considered legal
1559
01:29:19,087 --> 01:29:23,319
and the physical group violence
is considered illegal.
1560
01:29:23,487 --> 01:29:26,081
The dividing line between them is drawn
1561
01:29:26,247 --> 01:29:28,602
by class interests,
to coin an old phrase.
1562
01:29:29,647 --> 01:29:31,842
Xavier Mathieu, you're a shop steward
1563
01:29:32,007 --> 01:29:33,725
at the Continental factory.
1564
01:29:33,887 --> 01:29:37,641
You're understandably upset
but aren't you going too far?
1565
01:29:37,807 --> 01:29:39,957
Do you regret this violence?
1566
01:29:40,847 --> 01:29:41,962
You must be joking!
1567
01:29:42,567 --> 01:29:44,444
Does the end justify the means?
1568
01:29:45,167 --> 01:29:48,079
The end is only 28 days away!
1569
01:29:48,647 --> 01:29:52,242
We hear your anger
but are you calling for calm tonight?
1570
01:29:54,807 --> 01:29:55,876
No way!
1571
01:29:56,047 --> 01:29:57,685
I'm not calling for calm.
1572
01:29:57,847 --> 01:30:00,919
The people are angry
and anger has to come out.
1573
01:30:01,487 --> 01:30:04,638
There's a marching slogan that says,
1574
01:30:04,807 --> 01:30:08,038
"Sow the seeds of misery
and reap the grapes of wrath."
1575
01:30:09,567 --> 01:30:11,046
On April 21st 2009,
1576
01:30:11,207 --> 01:30:14,404
the France 2 news anchor hit a snag.
1577
01:30:15,087 --> 01:30:17,965
The union repat the Continental plant in Clairoix
1578
01:30:18,127 --> 01:30:20,118
refused to echo his call for calm.
1579
01:30:22,007 --> 01:30:26,285
That year, therecessionforced hundreds of laid-off workers
1580
01:30:26,687 --> 01:30:29,599
to set asidethe usual means of protest.
1581
01:30:29,927 --> 01:30:33,283
The media quickly raised the alarmof a workers' revolt
1582
01:30:33,487 --> 01:30:34,966
and decreed its limits.
1583
01:30:35,247 --> 01:30:37,078
It's an upward spiral.
1584
01:30:37,247 --> 01:30:39,602
Waving placards
in front of the National Assembly
1585
01:30:39,767 --> 01:30:41,883
will get you a minute of news.
1586
01:30:42,047 --> 01:30:44,322
Locking up the manager
gets you two minutes.
1587
01:30:44,487 --> 01:30:47,081
Threaten to blow up a building
1588
01:30:47,247 --> 01:30:49,681
and you'll be a media celebrity.
1589
01:30:50,487 --> 01:30:52,364
- We're fed up.
- You're angry?.
1590
01:30:52,527 --> 01:30:55,325
Yes, and getting angrier.
1591
01:30:55,487 --> 01:30:57,478
What can be done
to prevent it?
1592
01:30:57,647 --> 01:31:00,480
Is it legitimate or is it outrageous
1593
01:31:00,647 --> 01:31:02,797
for workers about to be laid off
1594
01:31:02,967 --> 01:31:06,403
to lock their bosses or managers
1595
01:31:06,567 --> 01:31:07,920
in their offices,
1596
01:31:08,087 --> 01:31:12,000
even non-violently
and for only a short time?
1597
01:31:12,167 --> 01:31:13,805
It's obviously unacceptable.
1598
01:31:14,087 --> 01:31:16,521
"Bossnapping", as the English call it,
1599
01:31:16,687 --> 01:31:19,884
holding a manager hostage,
is intolerable.
1600
01:31:20,047 --> 01:31:23,926
Locking people into their offices
can't be allowed.
1601
01:31:24,087 --> 01:31:26,317
Think how scared they must feel,
1602
01:31:26,487 --> 01:31:29,001
and their families.
It's criminal!
1603
01:31:29,167 --> 01:31:31,727
Next time we'll have to hit hard.
1604
01:31:31,887 --> 01:31:33,036
Harder and harder!
1605
01:31:33,367 --> 01:31:36,677
To most, if not all journalists,
1606
01:31:37,687 --> 01:31:40,963
the working class
is like an Indian reservation.
1607
01:31:41,127 --> 01:31:44,244
They don't know them,
the y're not from there,
1608
01:31:44,407 --> 01:31:47,240
they don't know
their customs and concerns,
1609
01:31:47,407 --> 01:31:51,400
their living conditions,
their culture, or their traditions.
1610
01:31:51,567 --> 01:31:53,956
As soon as the workers
step out of their role
1611
01:31:54,127 --> 01:31:56,880
as part of the scenery,
1612
01:31:57,047 --> 01:31:58,446
as picturesque folk
1613
01:31:58,807 --> 01:32:01,367
easily labeled
with ideological clichés,
1614
01:32:01,527 --> 01:32:05,440
as soon as they stop being
Indians on their reservation,
1615
01:32:05,607 --> 01:32:07,199
they become dangerous
1616
01:32:08,087 --> 01:32:12,046
because they break with
the soft consensus of soft democracy.
1617
01:32:12,967 --> 01:32:14,366
They break the rules.
1618
01:32:14,527 --> 01:32:18,600
They burn tires, occupy factories
and lock up their bosses.
1619
01:32:18,767 --> 01:32:20,598
They're beyond the pale.
1620
01:32:20,767 --> 01:32:24,840
Then the ideological apparatus
bares its fangs and bites viciously
1621
01:32:25,007 --> 01:32:28,522
and class mockery can escalate
1622
01:32:28,687 --> 01:32:31,281
to ostracism or class hatred.
1623
01:32:31,447 --> 01:32:33,722
Has legitimate protest given way
1624
01:32:33,887 --> 01:32:35,639
to "mob rule", as you call it,
1625
01:32:36,167 --> 01:32:37,316
echoing Sartre?
1626
01:32:37,487 --> 01:32:39,842
Yes. Today it's the bosses,
1627
01:32:40,007 --> 01:32:43,079
tomorrow it will be a lawyer
who pleads an unpopular case,
1628
01:32:43,247 --> 01:32:47,126
and the day after that,
a teacher who's too fond
1629
01:32:48,007 --> 01:32:51,283
of La Princesse de Cleves
or Le Rouge et le Noir.
1630
01:32:51,447 --> 01:32:54,837
One day it will be you,
for airing an unpopular opinion.
1631
01:32:55,007 --> 01:32:56,838
I think that today,
1632
01:32:57,007 --> 01:32:59,840
some minority fringe groups
1633
01:33:00,007 --> 01:33:02,237
pose a real threat of violence
1634
01:33:02,407 --> 01:33:05,160
and mob rule. We can't allow it.
1635
01:33:05,327 --> 01:33:08,603
However poor and painful
a worker's life may be,
1636
01:33:08,767 --> 01:33:10,837
however bad it is to be unemployed,
1637
01:33:11,007 --> 01:33:13,123
there are so many ways to be heard,
1638
01:33:13,287 --> 01:33:16,279
so many ways to fight and protest
1639
01:33:16,447 --> 01:33:19,405
without resorting to mob rule
and attacking people,
1640
01:33:19,567 --> 01:33:21,125
even if the y're bosses.
1641
01:33:21,287 --> 01:33:23,164
Bernard-Henri Levy, thank you!
1642
01:33:32,687 --> 01:33:36,760
"The bourgeois plays at treating
the people like his own children.
1643
01:33:37,167 --> 01:33:40,523
"He reproves, advises and assists them,
1644
01:33:41,047 --> 01:33:45,518
"for they are obviously incapable
of controlling their own fate.
1645
01:33:46,447 --> 01:33:50,042
"He punishes the people
as he would his own children,
1646
01:33:50,247 --> 01:33:51,521
"for their own good.
1647
01:33:51,807 --> 01:33:54,605
"He says,
'Spare the rod and spoil the child.'
1648
01:33:54,767 --> 01:33:57,201
When they revolt,
he calls them ingrates."
1649
01:34:06,287 --> 01:34:07,640
We believe it is right
1650
01:34:07,807 --> 01:34:09,638
for a democracy like ours
1651
01:34:10,807 --> 01:34:12,923
to lay down certain rules
1652
01:34:14,127 --> 01:34:16,357
and reaffirm certain principles
1653
01:34:16,767 --> 01:34:20,362
to which all democrats
should unhesitatingly adhere.
1654
01:34:22,647 --> 01:34:25,719
Reaffirm the need
for pluralism in the media...
1655
01:34:25,887 --> 01:34:28,355
Back in November 1983,
1656
01:34:28,527 --> 01:34:32,315
Pierre Mauroyput before the National Assembly
1657
01:34:32,487 --> 01:34:35,081
a Freedom of the Press bill.
1658
01:34:35,247 --> 01:34:37,522
President Mitterrand had pledged
1659
01:34:37,687 --> 01:34:42,966
that a left-wing government would enactthe autonomy and pluralism of the media.
1660
01:34:43,127 --> 01:34:45,516
...transparently administered.
1661
01:34:46,247 --> 01:34:49,319
Restrict concentration
1662
01:34:50,167 --> 01:34:51,566
and secure the means
1663
01:34:51,727 --> 01:34:55,242
to enforce the se provisions.
1664
01:34:55,567 --> 01:34:57,523
The stated enemies at the time
1665
01:34:57,687 --> 01:35:00,042
were concentrationand the power of money.
1666
01:35:00,647 --> 01:35:03,400
The power of the press
does not frighten us
1667
01:35:03,567 --> 01:35:07,196
but we will not tolerate
the power of money!
1668
01:35:13,247 --> 01:35:14,521
On May 13th 2009,
1669
01:35:14,687 --> 01:35:18,282
Jean-Pierre Elkabbach,the Lagardere Group's key journalist,
1670
01:35:18,447 --> 01:35:21,644
was decoratedby ex-President Chirac.
1671
01:35:23,687 --> 01:35:27,043
The admiring guests includedthe cream of the media,
1672
01:35:27,207 --> 01:35:28,356
financial leaders
1673
01:35:28,767 --> 01:35:31,645
and top politicians from right
1674
01:35:31,807 --> 01:35:33,240
and left.
1675
01:35:34,327 --> 01:35:35,885
In the meantime,
1676
01:35:36,047 --> 01:35:38,766
the left in powerhad spent thirty years giving up.
1677
01:35:39,687 --> 01:35:41,518
Thirty years of failing
1678
01:35:41,687 --> 01:35:43,484
to legislatefor an independent press.
1679
01:35:43,647 --> 01:35:46,286
Thirty yearsof increased concentration.
1680
01:35:46,767 --> 01:35:51,045
Thirty years of allowingindustrial and financial conglomerates
1681
01:35:51,207 --> 01:35:53,767
to take over the printed press, radio
1682
01:35:53,927 --> 01:35:55,326
and TV networks.
1683
01:35:55,487 --> 01:35:57,000
Thirty years of not trying
1684
01:35:57,167 --> 01:36:00,842
to provide a good,free public news service.
1685
01:36:01,247 --> 01:36:03,761
Thirty years of not treating the media
1686
01:36:04,447 --> 01:36:06,403
as a crucial political issue.
1687
01:36:10,287 --> 01:36:13,563
So? Must we wait thirty more years
1688
01:36:13,727 --> 01:36:16,799
for the democratization of the media
1689
01:36:16,967 --> 01:36:20,482
that is a prerequisitefor economic and social change?
1690
01:36:21,087 --> 01:36:26,525
Must we let the watchdogsthink and act for us for 30 more years?
1691
01:36:34,327 --> 01:36:37,125
"The gap between their ideas
and the grim world
1692
01:36:37,287 --> 01:36:39,721
"widens each week, each day,
1693
01:36:39,887 --> 01:36:41,764
"yet nothing alerts the m
1694
01:36:41,927 --> 01:36:43,485
"and they alert no one.
1695
01:36:43,847 --> 01:36:46,520
"The gap between their promises
and real life
1696
01:36:46,687 --> 01:36:48,803
"is more outrageous than ever.
1697
01:36:48,967 --> 01:36:50,446
"Yet they do not move.
1698
01:36:50,847 --> 01:36:53,042
"They stay behind the barricade.
1699
01:36:53,207 --> 01:36:56,597
"They hold the same meetings
and publish the same books.
1700
01:36:56,767 --> 01:36:59,600
"All those who foolishly
waited on their words
1701
01:36:59,767 --> 01:37:02,076
are starting to revolt, or laugh."
1702
01:37:02,327 --> 01:37:04,887
Paul Nizan, The Watchdogs, 1932
1703
01:37:29,327 --> 01:37:30,680
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1704
01:39:40,247 --> 01:39:42,966
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