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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:48,515 --> 00:00:52,551 Magic is the word that comes to mind for me 2 00:00:52,553 --> 00:00:55,020 when I think of Muscle Shoals. 3 00:00:55,022 --> 00:00:59,058 It's about alchemy, it's about turning metal, 4 00:00:59,060 --> 00:01:03,095 the iron in the ground, the rust, into gold. 5 00:01:03,097 --> 00:01:04,496 You just have to listen. 6 00:01:04,498 --> 00:01:06,298 And you will be transported. 7 00:01:06,300 --> 00:01:08,233 You will be changed. 8 00:01:08,235 --> 00:01:10,702 You're gonna hear some of the greatest voices 9 00:01:10,704 --> 00:01:12,271 that ever were. 10 00:01:13,606 --> 00:01:16,642 One, two, three! 11 00:01:16,644 --> 00:01:21,747 One, two, three. 12 00:01:21,749 --> 00:01:23,582 Ow! 13 00:01:23,584 --> 00:01:24,616 Uh! 14 00:01:24,618 --> 00:01:26,385 All right! 15 00:01:26,387 --> 00:01:27,352 Uh! 16 00:01:27,354 --> 00:01:30,322 ♪ Got to know how to Pony 17 00:01:30,324 --> 00:01:33,225 ♪ Like Bony Moronie 18 00:01:33,227 --> 00:01:35,894 ♪ Mash Potato 19 00:01:35,896 --> 00:01:38,397 ♪ Do the Alligator 20 00:01:38,399 --> 00:01:41,200 ♪ Put your hand on your hips, yeah ♪ 21 00:01:41,202 --> 00:01:44,002 ♪ Let your backbone slip 22 00:01:44,004 --> 00:01:46,672 ♪ Do the Watusi 23 00:01:46,674 --> 00:01:49,575 ♪ Like my little Lucy 24 00:01:49,577 --> 00:01:50,943 Ow! 25 00:01:50,945 --> 00:01:51,977 Uh! 26 00:01:51,979 --> 00:01:54,746 You know, I feel all right. 27 00:01:54,748 --> 00:01:57,749 Feel pretty good, y'all. 28 00:01:57,751 --> 00:02:02,721 ♪ Na, na-na na-na, na-na na-na, na-na na-na na-na ♪ 29 00:02:02,723 --> 00:02:04,056 ♪ Na-na na-na 30 00:02:04,058 --> 00:02:05,958 Come on, y'all, let's say it one more time. 31 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:10,863 ♪ Na, na-na na-na, na-na na-na, na-na na-na na-na ♪ 32 00:02:10,865 --> 00:02:12,965 ♪ Na-na na-na 33 00:02:12,967 --> 00:02:14,800 Ohh! 34 00:02:14,802 --> 00:02:17,002 ♪ Dancin' in the alley 35 00:02:17,004 --> 00:02:20,005 ♪ With Long Tall Sally 36 00:02:20,007 --> 00:02:22,474 ♪ Twistin' with Lucy 37 00:02:22,476 --> 00:02:25,144 ♪ Doin' the Watusi 38 00:02:25,146 --> 00:02:28,080 ♪ Roll over on your back 39 00:02:28,082 --> 00:02:30,916 ♪ I like it like that 40 00:02:30,918 --> 00:02:33,685 ♪ Ohh, help me 41 00:02:33,687 --> 00:02:35,921 ♪ Ohh, help me 42 00:02:35,923 --> 00:02:38,557 We started to hear this sound coming out. 43 00:02:38,559 --> 00:02:40,893 There was an amazing feel. 44 00:02:40,895 --> 00:02:46,365 Kind of, uh, magnetic, I suppose in a way, sound wise. 45 00:02:46,367 --> 00:02:50,569 And then after a while, this word, "Muscle Shoals" 46 00:02:50,571 --> 00:02:53,972 comes into the picture, and you put two and two together 47 00:02:53,974 --> 00:02:57,142 and that was when I said, "If we get the chance, 48 00:02:57,144 --> 00:02:59,611 we got to go down there," you know. 49 00:03:05,084 --> 00:03:07,853 People now still ask me, "What is it about 50 00:03:07,855 --> 00:03:10,088 Muscle Shoals?" 51 00:03:10,090 --> 00:03:13,659 It's just a little village on the Alabama border. 52 00:03:13,661 --> 00:03:17,930 Why does that music come out of there? 53 00:03:17,932 --> 00:03:21,166 It's an enigma. 54 00:03:21,168 --> 00:03:25,637 How did so much music take place 55 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:30,342 in such an undescript little town? 56 00:03:30,344 --> 00:03:32,878 There was just something about that place, 57 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:37,216 something that still to this day nobody can explain. 58 00:03:38,851 --> 00:03:42,754 At different points in time, on this planet, 59 00:03:42,756 --> 00:03:47,859 there are certain places 60 00:03:47,861 --> 00:03:51,930 where there is a field of energy. 61 00:03:51,932 --> 00:03:56,101 At this certain point in time for this number of years, 62 00:03:56,103 --> 00:03:58,503 there was Muscle Shoals. 63 00:04:01,307 --> 00:04:05,444 It's a unique thing, rooms and record-making 64 00:04:05,446 --> 00:04:08,280 like that, it doesn't happen very often. 65 00:04:08,282 --> 00:04:12,184 It's usually somebody like Rick Hall that's like 66 00:04:12,186 --> 00:04:15,454 a type of maniac. 67 00:04:15,456 --> 00:04:19,124 With the drive and the foresight to do it, you know, 68 00:04:19,126 --> 00:04:21,860 and he's a tough guy. 69 00:04:40,280 --> 00:04:44,283 This area here is where my roots are. 70 00:04:44,285 --> 00:04:49,154 And it's helped me develop into whatever I am today. 71 00:04:49,156 --> 00:04:51,990 My father was a sawmiller 72 00:04:51,992 --> 00:04:55,260 and we lived way out in the Freedom Hills. 73 00:04:55,262 --> 00:04:57,362 No houses, no neighbors. 74 00:04:57,364 --> 00:05:00,499 No kids to play with. 75 00:05:00,501 --> 00:05:03,368 The floor in our house was dirt. 76 00:05:03,370 --> 00:05:06,905 The heater was made out of an oil drum. 77 00:05:06,907 --> 00:05:09,841 We slept on straw beds made out of straw 78 00:05:09,843 --> 00:05:14,780 that we pulled up in the fields. 79 00:05:14,782 --> 00:05:19,718 We had no bathing facilities, no toilets, nothing. 80 00:05:21,654 --> 00:05:25,590 And we just kind of grew up like animals. 81 00:05:31,631 --> 00:05:35,734 That made me a little bitter. 82 00:05:35,736 --> 00:05:38,937 Somewhat driven. 83 00:05:38,939 --> 00:05:41,907 I wanted to be special. 84 00:05:41,909 --> 00:05:44,409 I wanted to be somebody. 85 00:05:57,924 --> 00:06:02,627 ♪ Can you slip away, slip away ♪ 86 00:06:02,629 --> 00:06:06,098 ♪ Slip away, yeah 87 00:06:06,100 --> 00:06:09,701 ♪ Oh, I need you so 88 00:06:12,372 --> 00:06:14,906 The first record I cut in this studio 89 00:06:14,908 --> 00:06:18,043 was a record called "Steal Away" by Jimmy Hughes. 90 00:06:18,045 --> 00:06:19,611 Brand new building. 91 00:06:19,613 --> 00:06:21,446 And I was hoping it had the magic. 92 00:06:21,448 --> 00:06:22,781 I didn't know. 93 00:06:22,783 --> 00:06:24,850 So I brought my band in, and I went up 94 00:06:24,852 --> 00:06:27,319 in the control room and sat down. 95 00:06:27,321 --> 00:06:28,754 Okay, all set? 96 00:06:28,756 --> 00:06:31,423 I turned on the microphones and nervously hit 97 00:06:31,425 --> 00:06:32,991 the talk-back button to the musicians 98 00:06:32,993 --> 00:06:37,662 and said with a slight crackle in my voice, "Rolling." 99 00:06:37,664 --> 00:06:42,667 One, two, one, two, three, four. 100 00:06:45,738 --> 00:06:47,205 When they kicked off "Steal Away," 101 00:06:47,207 --> 00:06:52,711 I sat behind the console and wept. 102 00:06:52,713 --> 00:06:56,181 I just had huge chill bumps come up on my arms. 103 00:06:56,183 --> 00:07:00,819 And the hair on the back of my neck actually stood up. 104 00:07:00,821 --> 00:07:04,222 And of course, this was the birth 105 00:07:04,224 --> 00:07:07,159 of the Muscle Shoals sound. 106 00:07:07,161 --> 00:07:13,231 ♪ I've got to see you 107 00:07:13,233 --> 00:07:16,635 ♪ Somehow 108 00:07:16,637 --> 00:07:21,106 ♪ Not tomorrow 109 00:07:21,108 --> 00:07:24,309 ♪ Right now 110 00:07:24,311 --> 00:07:30,615 ♪ I know it's late, whoa, I can't wait ♪ 111 00:07:30,617 --> 00:07:35,187 ♪ So come on and steal away ♪ 112 00:07:35,189 --> 00:07:37,889 I've heard entertainers and producers tell me 113 00:07:37,891 --> 00:07:39,858 that we got some kind of sound here 114 00:07:39,860 --> 00:07:42,127 that they can't get anywhere else. 115 00:07:42,129 --> 00:07:43,862 They have to come here. 116 00:07:43,864 --> 00:07:47,933 It's that oh, deep down into your stomach, 117 00:07:47,935 --> 00:07:49,701 coming up out of your gut, 118 00:07:49,703 --> 00:07:51,636 coming up out of your heart. 119 00:07:51,638 --> 00:07:54,573 There's that Muscle Shoals sound. 120 00:07:55,308 --> 00:07:58,176 ♪ I won't tell 121 00:07:58,178 --> 00:08:01,346 ♪ Anybody else 122 00:08:01,348 --> 00:08:09,348 ♪ I'll keep it to myself ♪ 123 00:08:09,690 --> 00:08:16,828 ♪ I know it's late, whoa, I can't wait ♪ 124 00:08:16,830 --> 00:08:20,665 ♪ So come on and steal away ♪ 125 00:08:20,667 --> 00:08:24,669 That sound made it through to even Ireland 126 00:08:24,671 --> 00:08:26,905 and Britain. 127 00:08:26,907 --> 00:08:29,908 And we felt the blood in that. 128 00:08:29,910 --> 00:08:33,778 We felt the... the sort of pulse of it. 129 00:08:33,780 --> 00:08:37,048 And we wanted some, you know? 130 00:08:41,621 --> 00:08:43,855 You gotta understand that Muscle Shoals 131 00:08:43,857 --> 00:08:45,757 had its own kind of R&B. 132 00:08:45,759 --> 00:08:48,660 Different from Memphis, different from Detroit, 133 00:08:48,662 --> 00:08:51,129 different from New York, different from L.A. 134 00:08:51,131 --> 00:08:52,764 How did it happen in this little town 135 00:08:52,766 --> 00:08:56,067 of 8,000 people, to start this whole style 136 00:08:56,069 --> 00:08:58,136 of music? 137 00:09:00,339 --> 00:09:03,375 It always seems to come out of the river. 138 00:09:03,377 --> 00:09:05,877 You know, even in Liverpool, 139 00:09:05,879 --> 00:09:08,647 you know, the Mersey sound. 140 00:09:08,649 --> 00:09:11,516 And then of course, Mississippi. 141 00:09:11,518 --> 00:09:14,886 And here you have the Tennessee River. 142 00:09:14,888 --> 00:09:17,789 It's like the songs come out of the mud. 143 00:09:42,548 --> 00:09:45,216 We're at a place called Ishatae. 144 00:09:45,218 --> 00:09:47,786 It means it's a special place, a holy place. 145 00:09:47,788 --> 00:09:50,889 It's a place of music. 146 00:09:50,891 --> 00:09:53,658 And it's a place of people. 147 00:09:53,660 --> 00:09:55,860 I've been working on it for 32 years. 148 00:09:55,862 --> 00:09:59,598 There's over eight million pounds of stones here. 149 00:10:01,334 --> 00:10:04,102 It's a memorial to my great-great-grandmother. 150 00:10:04,104 --> 00:10:09,174 She was an American Indian, and her people were Euchee. 151 00:10:09,176 --> 00:10:11,009 My grandmother's people called this river 152 00:10:11,011 --> 00:10:13,111 that we call the Tennessee today, they called it 153 00:10:13,113 --> 00:10:15,880 Nunnuhsae, the river that sings. 154 00:10:15,882 --> 00:10:17,482 They believed a young woman lived in the river, 155 00:10:17,484 --> 00:10:20,118 sang songs to 'em, and protected 'em. 156 00:10:25,124 --> 00:10:27,993 In the year 1839, my great-great-grandmother 157 00:10:27,995 --> 00:10:31,296 was removed from right here in Muscle Shoals. 158 00:10:31,298 --> 00:10:32,964 She was taken to the Indian Nations, 159 00:10:32,966 --> 00:10:36,968 what is now present-day Muskogee, Oklahoma. 160 00:10:36,970 --> 00:10:38,870 When Grandmother got out there to Oklahoma, 161 00:10:38,872 --> 00:10:40,438 she said there were no songs. 162 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:42,674 She went and listened to all the streams she could find 163 00:10:42,676 --> 00:10:45,844 and there were no songs. 164 00:10:45,846 --> 00:10:48,213 They couldn't sing, they couldn't dance. 165 00:10:48,215 --> 00:10:51,750 They couldn't hold their ceremonies. 166 00:10:51,752 --> 00:10:55,220 And they got to be very sad people. 167 00:10:55,222 --> 00:10:57,856 So, she started to come back home. 168 00:10:57,858 --> 00:11:00,592 She walked all the way back. 169 00:11:00,594 --> 00:11:03,161 It took her roughly five years. 170 00:11:07,199 --> 00:11:09,868 She had to come back to this river. 171 00:11:09,870 --> 00:11:12,671 The river that sings. 172 00:11:12,673 --> 00:11:16,241 The great dams have softened the woman in the river's songs, 173 00:11:16,243 --> 00:11:18,710 but if you go to very quiet places and listen, 174 00:11:18,712 --> 00:11:20,578 you can still hear her songs. 175 00:11:20,580 --> 00:11:24,049 I know; I hear her songs nearly every day. 176 00:11:29,021 --> 00:11:32,924 When I was a young man, starting out in the music business, 177 00:11:32,926 --> 00:11:35,827 Billy Sherrill and I, who were writing partners, 178 00:11:35,829 --> 00:11:37,996 got a phone call from a guy that wanted 179 00:11:37,998 --> 00:11:40,298 to start a publishing company with us, 180 00:11:40,300 --> 00:11:44,936 and had the sum of $500 to spend on us, 181 00:11:44,938 --> 00:11:48,139 which we thought was a gold mine. 182 00:11:48,141 --> 00:11:52,977 So, Tom Stafford was a dream come true. 183 00:11:52,979 --> 00:11:56,181 We went in business and we had a little bitty studio 184 00:11:56,183 --> 00:11:59,350 over Tom's father's drugstore. 185 00:12:02,021 --> 00:12:04,422 We got a few cuts, made a few bucks, 186 00:12:04,424 --> 00:12:07,192 and one day, I was called in to a meeting with Billy and Tom 187 00:12:07,194 --> 00:12:09,094 and they advised me that they were not happy 188 00:12:09,096 --> 00:12:11,196 with the way things were going and thought 189 00:12:11,198 --> 00:12:14,766 that I was a little too much of a workaholic. 190 00:12:15,968 --> 00:12:17,936 And said that they wanted to have fun 191 00:12:17,938 --> 00:12:19,871 while they were having hit records, 192 00:12:19,873 --> 00:12:21,673 and that I was just too adamant 193 00:12:21,675 --> 00:12:24,576 and too, uh, strong-willed 194 00:12:24,578 --> 00:12:25,844 and too pushy. 195 00:12:25,846 --> 00:12:29,414 So, they decided to... to let me go. 196 00:12:30,916 --> 00:12:34,919 So, I obviously went home, began to lick my wounds, 197 00:12:34,921 --> 00:12:38,289 and was very bitter. 198 00:12:43,462 --> 00:12:45,663 During this time, I worked at a place called 199 00:12:45,665 --> 00:12:49,134 Reynolds Metals Company in Muscle Shoals, Alabama. 200 00:12:49,136 --> 00:12:53,037 And I married my first wife, Faye Marie, there. 201 00:12:53,039 --> 00:12:56,074 She and I had been married about 18 months 202 00:12:56,076 --> 00:13:01,913 and we went to Hamilton to see Benny Martin in concert. 203 00:13:01,915 --> 00:13:05,016 It was about sundown, and I met a car 204 00:13:05,018 --> 00:13:06,785 who was traveling very fast. 205 00:13:06,787 --> 00:13:08,953 I swerved to go around that car. 206 00:13:08,955 --> 00:13:11,689 I hit some loose gravels on the side of the road 207 00:13:11,691 --> 00:13:14,192 and went into a spin, a tailspin. 208 00:13:14,194 --> 00:13:17,495 The car turned end over end a couple, three times, 209 00:13:17,497 --> 00:13:19,364 and landed on its top. 210 00:13:19,366 --> 00:13:21,833 I didn't know if she was out or in, but couldn't find her 211 00:13:21,835 --> 00:13:24,102 in the car, it was total darkness. 212 00:13:24,104 --> 00:13:28,039 I began to yell for her and couldn't hear any noise, 213 00:13:28,041 --> 00:13:30,775 except I could hear gasoline running out 214 00:13:30,777 --> 00:13:33,812 of the gas tank into the car somewhere. 215 00:13:33,814 --> 00:13:36,848 And I thought, of course, it's gonna be my death 216 00:13:36,850 --> 00:13:38,850 because the car's gonna catch fire 217 00:13:38,852 --> 00:13:42,253 and I can't get out. 218 00:13:42,255 --> 00:13:44,756 I got out of the car and searched around 219 00:13:44,758 --> 00:13:49,160 in kudzu vines up to here. 220 00:13:49,162 --> 00:13:51,696 Finally, some people stopped with a flashlight 221 00:13:51,698 --> 00:13:53,331 and we found her. 222 00:13:53,333 --> 00:13:55,967 I nursed her on the way to Hamilton Hospital. 223 00:13:55,969 --> 00:13:57,468 About two o'clock in the morning, 224 00:13:57,470 --> 00:14:01,172 the doctor came to me and said, "Your wife has passed on." 225 00:14:03,943 --> 00:14:08,112 And, of course, I freaked out. 226 00:14:08,114 --> 00:14:11,316 I became a drunk, a vagabond. 227 00:14:11,318 --> 00:14:13,551 A tramp. 228 00:14:17,389 --> 00:14:21,092 That changed my whole life. 229 00:14:27,166 --> 00:14:29,567 It was hard times and all I had to cling to 230 00:14:29,569 --> 00:14:31,002 was my music. 231 00:14:31,004 --> 00:14:32,971 I slept in my car. 232 00:14:32,973 --> 00:14:35,073 I ate in my car. 233 00:14:35,075 --> 00:14:37,775 And I wrote songs in my car. 234 00:14:37,777 --> 00:14:40,879 But I continued playing music and it was the only love I had 235 00:14:40,881 --> 00:14:44,349 at that time, and, so... 236 00:14:44,351 --> 00:14:49,287 I joined a little local band in Hamilton. 237 00:14:49,289 --> 00:14:51,122 From that time on, for five years, 238 00:14:51,124 --> 00:14:57,762 I wrote songs, played music, 239 00:14:57,764 --> 00:15:00,164 and chased the women. 240 00:15:00,166 --> 00:15:07,972 ♪ Somebody loan me a dime ♪ 241 00:15:07,974 --> 00:15:15,113 ♪ I need to call my old time, used to be ♪ 242 00:15:15,115 --> 00:15:19,083 All this gravitated towards, what am I gonna do 243 00:15:19,085 --> 00:15:21,119 with the rest of my life and I decided 244 00:15:21,121 --> 00:15:22,520 to come back to Muscle Shoals, 245 00:15:22,522 --> 00:15:25,523 but this time I came back with a vengeance. 246 00:15:25,525 --> 00:15:28,126 I came back with a determination that I was gonna 247 00:15:28,128 --> 00:15:30,428 kick some ass and take some names. 248 00:15:30,430 --> 00:15:36,200 And I was going to make it in the music business. 249 00:15:36,202 --> 00:15:41,472 And so I set up shop in a little candy and tobacco warehouse. 250 00:15:41,474 --> 00:15:43,574 I closed the doors, I hid my car. 251 00:15:43,576 --> 00:15:45,376 I didn't talk to girls, I didn't make dates, 252 00:15:45,378 --> 00:15:48,646 I didn't do anything except write songs 253 00:15:48,648 --> 00:15:51,716 and I was totally obsessed with the business. 254 00:15:51,718 --> 00:15:55,320 And so shortly after that, I ran into Arthur Alexander, 255 00:15:55,322 --> 00:15:58,756 who was a local bellhop at the Sheffield Hotel. 256 00:15:58,758 --> 00:16:01,426 And he played me a song and said, "What do you think?" 257 00:16:01,428 --> 00:16:05,330 And I said, "I think it's a hit." 258 00:16:05,332 --> 00:16:06,464 So he said, "What are we gonna do about it?" 259 00:16:06,466 --> 00:16:07,932 And I said, "We're gonna cut it." 260 00:16:07,934 --> 00:16:10,268 He said, "When," I said, "Tomorrow." 261 00:16:11,870 --> 00:16:13,204 I brought my band in. 262 00:16:13,206 --> 00:16:15,440 Norbert Putnam, David Briggs, 263 00:16:15,442 --> 00:16:17,709 Jerry Carrigan, Peanut Montgomery, 264 00:16:17,711 --> 00:16:20,478 and Terry Thompson were the first rhythm section 265 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:23,114 to be in the studio and to cut a hit record. 266 00:16:23,116 --> 00:16:25,950 Now, you gotta realize Rick Hall is this older man. 267 00:16:25,952 --> 00:16:28,219 We're all 18, 19 years old. 268 00:16:28,221 --> 00:16:30,588 Rick's what, 28, 29? 269 00:16:30,590 --> 00:16:32,890 He had the vision for the recording. 270 00:16:32,892 --> 00:16:37,562 Rick made records with a group of teenage kids, okay, 271 00:16:37,564 --> 00:16:41,399 that became hit records, world-class records. 272 00:16:41,401 --> 00:16:49,401 ♪ You asked me to give up the hand of the girl I love ♪ 273 00:16:49,709 --> 00:16:56,414 ♪ You tell me I'm not the man she's worthy of ♪ 274 00:16:56,416 --> 00:16:57,982 The very first record, "You Better Move On" 275 00:16:57,984 --> 00:16:59,550 by Arthur Alexander that I produced, 276 00:16:59,552 --> 00:17:01,285 I had anything to do with was a hit. 277 00:17:01,287 --> 00:17:03,254 Not the second or third, but the first session we cut 278 00:17:03,256 --> 00:17:04,622 was a hit record. 279 00:17:04,624 --> 00:17:07,458 I know Rick was determined to cut that hit 280 00:17:07,460 --> 00:17:09,293 and he did it, but if he hadn't, 281 00:17:09,295 --> 00:17:11,562 I'm of the opinion that none of this 282 00:17:11,564 --> 00:17:14,932 Muscle Shoals movement would have ever happened. 283 00:17:14,934 --> 00:17:18,336 ♪ That's up to her 284 00:17:18,338 --> 00:17:22,740 ♪ Yes, and the Lord above 285 00:17:22,742 --> 00:17:25,676 ♪ You better move on 286 00:17:25,678 --> 00:17:29,213 Rest of the world started looking at Muscle Shoals. 287 00:17:29,215 --> 00:17:30,848 Thank you very much. 288 00:17:30,850 --> 00:17:33,051 We're gonna do a slow one now, it's called, uh, 289 00:17:33,053 --> 00:17:35,253 "You Better Move On." 290 00:17:35,255 --> 00:17:37,155 It was the only thing we did like that. 291 00:17:37,157 --> 00:17:39,991 And the girls really adored this song. 292 00:17:39,993 --> 00:17:41,559 It was a big hit for us in England. 293 00:17:41,561 --> 00:17:43,127 It was our number-one record. 294 00:17:43,129 --> 00:17:46,964 ♪ If you ask me to give up the hand ♪ 295 00:17:46,966 --> 00:17:48,800 ♪ Of the girl I love 296 00:17:48,802 --> 00:17:52,136 I think the Beatles beat us to Arthur Alexander 297 00:17:52,138 --> 00:17:53,771 by, like, a couple of weeks. 298 00:17:53,773 --> 00:17:56,307 You know, they cut "Anna" and I think we cut 299 00:17:56,309 --> 00:17:58,709 "Better Move On" maybe a month later. 300 00:17:58,711 --> 00:18:02,447 There's, uh, a love of Arthur Alexander. 301 00:18:02,449 --> 00:18:06,417 ♪ You ask me to give up the only love ♪ 302 00:18:06,419 --> 00:18:09,487 ♪ I've ever had 303 00:18:09,489 --> 00:18:13,157 At that time, we had no idea where this was recorded, 304 00:18:13,159 --> 00:18:14,392 but it's interesting to know 305 00:18:14,394 --> 00:18:17,161 one of the first things that we cut was 306 00:18:17,163 --> 00:18:20,798 a Muscle Shoals production, you know. 307 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:23,501 ♪ Better move on 308 00:18:25,370 --> 00:18:28,172 This original Muscle Shoals rhythm section 309 00:18:28,174 --> 00:18:30,108 opened for the Beatles in 1964, 310 00:18:30,110 --> 00:18:32,643 their first American concert. 311 00:18:32,645 --> 00:18:34,745 And, of course, a year later, in '65, 312 00:18:34,747 --> 00:18:36,114 we all go to Nashville. 313 00:18:36,116 --> 00:18:39,784 The guys went on to become great pickers and producers 314 00:18:39,786 --> 00:18:43,354 and learned from experience here at FAME, 315 00:18:43,356 --> 00:18:45,223 man, we can do it. 316 00:18:45,225 --> 00:18:47,492 When they left, there was nobody else. 317 00:18:47,494 --> 00:18:51,496 We were the only game in town for him to get. 318 00:18:54,633 --> 00:18:57,435 They took the ball that we started rolling, 319 00:18:57,437 --> 00:18:59,704 and they rolled it and made it bigger. 320 00:18:59,706 --> 00:19:04,408 Individually, I never really thought we were great players. 321 00:19:04,410 --> 00:19:07,011 But together, we were great players. 322 00:19:07,013 --> 00:19:09,547 We had the magic together. 323 00:19:14,153 --> 00:19:15,653 We liked playing funky. 324 00:19:15,655 --> 00:19:17,822 All funky was was that we didn't know 325 00:19:17,824 --> 00:19:19,390 how to make it smooth. 326 00:19:19,392 --> 00:19:21,626 We're rock 'n' roll players, okay? 327 00:19:21,628 --> 00:19:24,562 You just didn't expect them to be as funky 328 00:19:24,564 --> 00:19:26,898 or as greasy as they were. 329 00:19:28,066 --> 00:19:32,270 ♪ I know a place 330 00:19:32,272 --> 00:19:33,538 ♪ Ain't nobody cryin' 331 00:19:33,540 --> 00:19:36,107 The grooves that we set up came from 332 00:19:36,109 --> 00:19:37,808 rhythm and blues music. 333 00:19:37,810 --> 00:19:41,179 I remember when Paul Simon called Stax Records, 334 00:19:41,181 --> 00:19:42,880 talked to Al Bell. 335 00:19:42,882 --> 00:19:45,616 And said, "Hey, man, I want those same black players" 336 00:19:45,618 --> 00:19:48,553 that played on 'I'll Take You There.'" 337 00:19:48,555 --> 00:19:50,421 He said, "That can happen, but these guys" 338 00:19:50,423 --> 00:19:51,989 are mighty pale." 339 00:19:51,991 --> 00:19:54,025 ♪ Let me take you there 340 00:19:54,027 --> 00:19:55,793 ♪ I'll take you there 341 00:19:55,795 --> 00:19:59,397 ♪ You got to, got to, gotta let me ♪ 342 00:19:59,399 --> 00:20:02,266 A lot of people could not believe 343 00:20:02,268 --> 00:20:05,169 that my whole band was white guys that played 344 00:20:05,171 --> 00:20:06,437 behind me. 345 00:20:06,439 --> 00:20:08,506 People have arrived at Muscle Shoals 346 00:20:08,508 --> 00:20:11,242 expecting to meet these black dudes, 347 00:20:11,244 --> 00:20:12,944 and they're a bunch of white guys 348 00:20:12,946 --> 00:20:15,012 that look like they worked in the supermarket 349 00:20:15,014 --> 00:20:16,948 around the corner. 350 00:20:16,950 --> 00:20:21,285 Muscle Shoals rhythm section: David Hood, bass player. 351 00:20:23,422 --> 00:20:26,123 Jimmy Johnson, guitar. 352 00:20:26,125 --> 00:20:29,093 Roger Hawkins, drums. 353 00:20:29,095 --> 00:20:31,262 Barry Beckett, keyboard player. 354 00:20:36,602 --> 00:20:39,470 Later on, became known as the Swampers. 355 00:20:42,174 --> 00:20:44,442 A strong rhythm section made the difference 356 00:20:44,444 --> 00:20:46,877 when you went in the studio every day with the same pickers 357 00:20:46,879 --> 00:20:50,414 and the same players, and they became a team, 358 00:20:50,416 --> 00:20:53,517 and it was hard to beat that. 359 00:20:53,519 --> 00:20:57,788 We began to bring in songwriters and musicians, 360 00:20:57,790 --> 00:21:01,325 anybody that wanted to be in the music business. 361 00:21:22,714 --> 00:21:25,916 I guess during high school, I started going over 362 00:21:25,918 --> 00:21:27,818 to FAME studio. 363 00:21:27,820 --> 00:21:31,922 That was like a melting pot for songwriters, musicians. 364 00:21:31,924 --> 00:21:36,594 I was, as a teenager, really impressed with all that. 365 00:21:36,596 --> 00:21:39,430 I came up here and I'm just a kid, really. 366 00:21:39,432 --> 00:21:42,266 And all these people here were kids, too. 367 00:21:42,268 --> 00:21:44,635 I mean, nobody knew anything. 368 00:21:51,143 --> 00:21:55,346 We're just doing our best to learn how to make records 369 00:21:55,348 --> 00:22:00,985 and learn how to write songs and learn how to play music. 370 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:18,235 Most of these guys around here, including myself, 371 00:22:18,237 --> 00:22:20,771 are country people. 372 00:22:20,773 --> 00:22:22,773 We come from the country. 373 00:22:22,775 --> 00:22:24,542 Arthur Alexander, Jimmy Hughes, 374 00:22:24,544 --> 00:22:27,411 they were the pioneers as far as the artist goes 375 00:22:27,413 --> 00:22:29,213 down here, Percy Sledge. 376 00:22:29,215 --> 00:22:33,017 These are just local people. 377 00:22:33,019 --> 00:22:36,120 I'm from a small town called Leighton, right outside 378 00:22:36,122 --> 00:22:38,956 of Muscle Shoals. 379 00:22:38,958 --> 00:22:40,858 I was a little guy working in the field, 380 00:22:40,860 --> 00:22:43,594 choppin' cotton, singing to the older people 381 00:22:43,596 --> 00:22:45,963 in the field that always said that one day, 382 00:22:45,965 --> 00:22:47,965 my voice would be heard all over the world, 383 00:22:47,967 --> 00:22:52,503 but I never thought that would happen. 384 00:22:52,505 --> 00:22:57,041 Percy worked at the local hospital. 385 00:22:57,043 --> 00:23:00,578 I was a orderly working with the sick people. 386 00:23:00,580 --> 00:23:02,346 I'd sing a song for 'em, you know, 387 00:23:02,348 --> 00:23:03,914 and they'd go to sleep. 388 00:23:03,916 --> 00:23:06,584 I got such a big kick out of that, you know, 389 00:23:06,586 --> 00:23:09,153 and I could see my patient layin' up there, 390 00:23:09,155 --> 00:23:13,090 smilin', you know, and feelin' better. 391 00:23:13,092 --> 00:23:16,560 So one day I was invited to sing at the Elks Club 392 00:23:16,562 --> 00:23:18,662 here in Sheffield. 393 00:23:18,664 --> 00:23:20,798 And it just so happened Quin Ivy, 394 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:23,000 who was a disc jockey at WLAY, 395 00:23:23,002 --> 00:23:24,935 and he heard me sing this song. 396 00:23:24,937 --> 00:23:28,305 He loved the melody and the feel. 397 00:23:28,307 --> 00:23:30,708 He said, "Percy Sledge, have you ever been interested" 398 00:23:30,710 --> 00:23:33,010 in cuttin' a record?" 399 00:23:33,012 --> 00:23:34,945 I remember the day I got the call. 400 00:23:34,947 --> 00:23:37,815 "Will you come do keyboards on this recording session? 401 00:23:37,817 --> 00:23:41,519 Be the first recording this artist has ever done." 402 00:23:41,521 --> 00:23:43,654 When I came in to the studio, 403 00:23:43,656 --> 00:23:45,356 I was shakin' like a leaf. 404 00:23:45,358 --> 00:23:46,557 I was scared. 405 00:23:46,559 --> 00:23:51,695 ♪ When a man loves a woman ♪ 406 00:23:51,697 --> 00:23:55,299 ♪ Can't keep his mind on nothin' else ♪ 407 00:23:55,301 --> 00:24:00,271 ♪ He'll trade the world for the good thing he's found ♪ 408 00:24:00,273 --> 00:24:02,072 Every time that he sang the song, 409 00:24:02,074 --> 00:24:05,242 he had different levels for different parts 410 00:24:05,244 --> 00:24:06,911 of the song. 411 00:24:06,913 --> 00:24:09,346 And everything had to be in your wrist. 412 00:24:09,348 --> 00:24:11,282 Bring the level up and down. 413 00:24:11,284 --> 00:24:13,551 All I had was a voice, I didn't know anything 414 00:24:13,553 --> 00:24:16,086 about no singing, you know. 415 00:24:16,088 --> 00:24:20,658 Somehow, I got one down, and Percy was on time with me 416 00:24:20,660 --> 00:24:23,027 with a great vocal. 417 00:24:23,029 --> 00:24:28,599 ♪ He'd give up all his comforts ♪ 418 00:24:28,601 --> 00:24:32,336 ♪ And sleep out in the rain ♪ 419 00:24:32,338 --> 00:24:37,675 ♪ If she said that's the way it ought to be ♪ 420 00:24:37,677 --> 00:24:40,344 All this was just so new to me and these guys 421 00:24:40,346 --> 00:24:41,979 made me feel like hey, man, 422 00:24:41,981 --> 00:24:44,415 you can do it, you've got it, you know. 423 00:24:44,417 --> 00:24:46,617 I used to call them my family. 424 00:24:46,619 --> 00:24:49,153 Donna Thatcher, all of them, you know. 425 00:24:49,155 --> 00:24:53,958 My first wonderful experience was singing on 426 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,160 "When a Man Loves a Woman" with Percy Sledge 427 00:24:56,162 --> 00:25:01,065 and you'd never know when you're making history. 428 00:25:01,067 --> 00:25:09,067 ♪ Baby, please don't treat me bad ♪ 429 00:25:09,542 --> 00:25:11,108 Quin called me one Sunday afternoon 430 00:25:11,110 --> 00:25:13,444 and said, "Do you know of a place we can get a deal?" 431 00:25:13,446 --> 00:25:15,579 And I said, "I think so," and I picked up the phone 432 00:25:15,581 --> 00:25:17,815 and called Jerry Wexler in New York. 433 00:25:17,817 --> 00:25:21,585 Jerry Wexler was probably the biggest record company guru 434 00:25:21,587 --> 00:25:23,821 in the world. 435 00:25:23,823 --> 00:25:27,391 It was a man named Rick Hall who had a studio 436 00:25:27,393 --> 00:25:29,093 in Muscle Shoals. 437 00:25:29,095 --> 00:25:31,128 I said, "You told me if I've heard something" 438 00:25:31,130 --> 00:25:32,630 I thought was a big hit 439 00:25:32,632 --> 00:25:34,265 "to call you, and I'm callin' you." 440 00:25:34,267 --> 00:25:36,667 Play a little bit of this thing here. 441 00:25:37,802 --> 00:25:40,304 And I heard some music coming from there, 442 00:25:40,306 --> 00:25:43,307 and it was fabulous. 443 00:25:43,309 --> 00:25:44,608 What do you think? 444 00:25:44,610 --> 00:25:46,577 We pressed and distributed the record, 445 00:25:46,579 --> 00:25:47,878 and that was a big hit. 446 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:52,917 ♪ When a man loves a woman ♪ 447 00:25:52,919 --> 00:25:56,086 That began a great relationship between Jerry Wexler, 448 00:25:56,088 --> 00:25:58,088 Atlantic Records, and Rick Hall. 449 00:25:58,090 --> 00:26:00,691 And of course, the record's still one of the most 450 00:26:00,693 --> 00:26:02,626 classic records in the business. 451 00:26:02,628 --> 00:26:07,965 ♪ If she's played him for a fool ♪ 452 00:26:07,967 --> 00:26:09,366 ♪ He's the last one to know ♪ 453 00:26:09,368 --> 00:26:12,970 Same melody that I sang when I'm in the field. 454 00:26:12,972 --> 00:26:14,905 I just wails out in the woods 455 00:26:14,907 --> 00:26:17,541 and let the echo come back to me. 456 00:26:17,543 --> 00:26:23,314 ♪ When a man loves a woman ♪ 457 00:26:23,316 --> 00:26:26,183 ♪ He can do her no wrong ♪ 458 00:26:26,185 --> 00:26:28,285 I, George C. Wallace... 459 00:26:28,287 --> 00:26:32,156 During that era of recording basically all-black acts, 460 00:26:32,158 --> 00:26:34,158 you gotta remember that George Wallace 461 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:35,859 was standing in the schoolhouse door 462 00:26:35,861 --> 00:26:37,861 at the University of Alabama, 463 00:26:37,863 --> 00:26:40,764 making sure that no black people came to school there. 464 00:26:40,766 --> 00:26:45,502 And I say segregation now, segregation tomorrow, 465 00:26:45,504 --> 00:26:47,972 and segregation forever. 466 00:26:50,642 --> 00:26:53,110 This was a politics that could not see 467 00:26:53,112 --> 00:26:55,913 past the color of your skin. 468 00:26:58,650 --> 00:27:01,352 It's the kind of thing that I know people 469 00:27:01,354 --> 00:27:05,823 of this era, they wouldn't want to believe what it used to be. 470 00:27:05,825 --> 00:27:09,026 I think of all the times when we used to take a break 471 00:27:09,028 --> 00:27:11,295 from the studio to go out and to eat. 472 00:27:11,297 --> 00:27:14,331 I was somewhat frightened from time to time 473 00:27:14,333 --> 00:27:18,636 when we'd go and buy dinner for half a dozen black people. 474 00:27:20,005 --> 00:27:23,941 That's where you saw, like, what are you... 475 00:27:23,943 --> 00:27:27,778 what are y'all doin' sitting there? 476 00:27:27,780 --> 00:27:30,114 Even though the civil rights movement was already 477 00:27:30,116 --> 00:27:33,651 in effect, it still hadn't dawned on people 478 00:27:33,653 --> 00:27:36,220 that this is the new era. 479 00:27:39,557 --> 00:27:43,394 I have a dream that one day, 480 00:27:43,396 --> 00:27:49,933 down in Alabama with its vicious racists, 481 00:27:49,935 --> 00:27:52,069 one day right there in Alabama, 482 00:27:52,071 --> 00:27:54,571 little black boys and black girls 483 00:27:54,573 --> 00:27:57,207 will be able to join hands with little white boys 484 00:27:57,209 --> 00:27:59,643 and white girls as sisters and brothers. 485 00:27:59,645 --> 00:28:01,945 I have a dream today. 486 00:28:08,687 --> 00:28:10,020 When I was a young boy, 487 00:28:10,022 --> 00:28:13,123 it was always, uh, if I met a white boy, 488 00:28:13,125 --> 00:28:17,895 I had to say, "This is Mr. Robert 489 00:28:17,897 --> 00:28:20,864 or, uh, Mr. Jimmy." 490 00:28:20,866 --> 00:28:23,701 But... but in the studio, we got away from that, 491 00:28:23,703 --> 00:28:27,538 it was Jimmy, it was Robert, it was Clarence, you know. 492 00:28:27,540 --> 00:28:28,639 Go that way. 493 00:28:28,641 --> 00:28:29,807 ♪ On the go 494 00:28:29,809 --> 00:28:31,542 Or something like, you know. 495 00:28:31,544 --> 00:28:32,876 Do it one more time. 496 00:28:32,878 --> 00:28:35,979 You just work together, you never thought about 497 00:28:35,981 --> 00:28:39,983 who was white and who was black. 498 00:28:39,985 --> 00:28:41,952 You thought about the common thing 499 00:28:41,954 --> 00:28:44,121 and it was the music. 500 00:28:47,358 --> 00:28:48,525 We were color blind. 501 00:28:48,527 --> 00:28:50,794 There was never any situation that came up 502 00:28:50,796 --> 00:28:53,864 in the studio here ever 503 00:28:53,866 --> 00:28:56,600 about, "You're black and I'm white." 504 00:28:56,602 --> 00:28:58,302 And you think about the South. 505 00:28:58,304 --> 00:28:59,937 They didn't believe that black and white people 506 00:28:59,939 --> 00:29:01,672 could live together. 507 00:29:01,674 --> 00:29:05,109 And here are vinyl records 508 00:29:05,111 --> 00:29:08,345 that prove that not only can they live together, 509 00:29:08,347 --> 00:29:13,083 you might not know who's black and who's white. 510 00:29:13,085 --> 00:29:17,154 At the time, this was revolutionary stuff. 511 00:29:20,391 --> 00:29:24,461 Music played a big part in changing the thoughts 512 00:29:24,463 --> 00:29:28,432 of people, especially in the South, about race. 513 00:29:30,268 --> 00:29:34,438 By us being in Muscle Shoals and puttin' 514 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:36,273 music together, 515 00:29:36,275 --> 00:29:39,710 I think it went a long ways to help people understand 516 00:29:39,712 --> 00:29:43,814 that we all were just humans. 517 00:29:43,816 --> 00:29:46,083 My stock went sky-high with Wexler after 518 00:29:46,085 --> 00:29:50,053 the Percy Sledge single went number one worldwide, 519 00:29:50,055 --> 00:29:52,489 and he said, "Rick, I have a little bit of a dispute" 520 00:29:52,491 --> 00:29:55,325 with Jim Stewart at Stax and he don't want me to cut 521 00:29:55,327 --> 00:29:57,394 "any more records over at his studio." 522 00:29:57,396 --> 00:30:02,299 The welcoming mat for me at Memphis was cold. 523 00:30:02,301 --> 00:30:04,268 So I got the idea of calling Rick Hall 524 00:30:04,270 --> 00:30:06,870 and saying, "Hey, can I bring Wilson Pickett down here" 525 00:30:06,872 --> 00:30:09,706 and, uh, make some records with you guys?" 526 00:30:09,708 --> 00:30:11,074 Which we did. 527 00:30:17,849 --> 00:30:19,950 I gets off the plane, southern airlines, 528 00:30:19,952 --> 00:30:23,487 and here, this long, tall white man, 529 00:30:23,489 --> 00:30:25,155 we call 'em peckerwoods. 530 00:30:25,157 --> 00:30:28,392 I met Wilson Pickett, picked him up at the airport. 531 00:30:28,394 --> 00:30:32,563 He looked like, to me, a dangerous man. 532 00:30:32,565 --> 00:30:35,265 He walked up like he'd known me for 500 years. 533 00:30:35,267 --> 00:30:36,567 "Hey, Wilson, come on, come on. 534 00:30:36,569 --> 00:30:38,168 We gon' cut some fuckin' records." 535 00:30:38,170 --> 00:30:39,636 Why, we gon' really cut some records. 536 00:30:39,638 --> 00:30:41,205 Come on, Wilson, come on," I said, "Wait, wait," 537 00:30:41,207 --> 00:30:43,073 I'm nervous, you know what I mean? 538 00:30:43,075 --> 00:30:45,609 Now what this white man know about producin' 539 00:30:45,611 --> 00:30:49,046 a Wilson Pickett? 540 00:30:49,048 --> 00:30:50,480 And on the way to the studio, 541 00:30:50,482 --> 00:30:52,216 I'll look at him and he'll look at me, 542 00:30:52,218 --> 00:30:53,884 and I could see it in his eyes, he was thinkin', 543 00:30:53,886 --> 00:30:55,185 "What am I doin' with this cracker 544 00:30:55,187 --> 00:30:57,821 down here in Alabama?" 545 00:30:57,823 --> 00:30:59,356 We went through the cotton patch, 546 00:30:59,358 --> 00:31:01,491 people still pickin' cotton. 547 00:31:01,493 --> 00:31:04,928 I said, "Is that what I think it is?" 548 00:31:04,930 --> 00:31:07,364 "Yeah, Wilson, they're still picking cotton down here." 549 00:31:07,366 --> 00:31:10,267 You can see his studio from the cotton patch. 550 00:31:13,972 --> 00:31:17,007 Pickett had a very quick temper. 551 00:31:17,009 --> 00:31:19,610 I was there to make it work, period. 552 00:31:19,612 --> 00:31:22,145 You know what I mean? 553 00:31:22,147 --> 00:31:24,081 On session, if he didn't like what was goin' on 554 00:31:24,083 --> 00:31:25,449 and didn't like the attitude, 555 00:31:25,451 --> 00:31:27,818 he's just liable to whip the drummer. 556 00:31:27,820 --> 00:31:30,320 Say, "Come out, son, I'm gonna beat your ass." 557 00:31:30,322 --> 00:31:33,290 I was nervous, I was sittin' behind the drums 558 00:31:33,292 --> 00:31:36,059 and I was gettin' things together, like drummers do, 559 00:31:36,061 --> 00:31:37,628 checkin' things. 560 00:31:37,630 --> 00:31:40,831 Our band was super nervous the first time we worked 561 00:31:40,833 --> 00:31:42,165 for Jerry Wexler. 562 00:31:42,167 --> 00:31:44,701 We had this feeling that if we couldn't play 563 00:31:44,703 --> 00:31:47,037 what he asked us to play, we'd probably be fired 564 00:31:47,039 --> 00:31:48,472 on the spot. 565 00:31:48,474 --> 00:31:50,941 I was apprehensive, very leery, 566 00:31:50,943 --> 00:31:53,243 because it was entirely different 567 00:31:53,245 --> 00:31:56,513 from what we had been doing in New York, 568 00:31:56,515 --> 00:31:59,583 which was recording with written arrangements, 569 00:31:59,585 --> 00:32:03,420 arrangers, and studio players who read the charts. 570 00:32:03,422 --> 00:32:05,489 We would get in the studio and would add a little bit 571 00:32:05,491 --> 00:32:07,224 of this, a little bit of that, 572 00:32:07,226 --> 00:32:08,892 and then we'll go to lunch, come back, 573 00:32:08,894 --> 00:32:10,294 and we didn't like that, take it away, 574 00:32:10,296 --> 00:32:11,929 you know, that kind of stuff. 575 00:32:11,931 --> 00:32:14,665 We would sit there and we'd make that record together. 576 00:32:19,570 --> 00:32:21,571 Those guys are sittin' there in the studio, 577 00:32:21,573 --> 00:32:23,740 and just find the groove, you know? 578 00:32:23,742 --> 00:32:25,642 And I'd be right there with 'em, singing along 579 00:32:25,644 --> 00:32:27,945 and we'd all work it out together. 580 00:32:27,947 --> 00:32:31,214 Rick Hall, he stood there every minute. 581 00:32:31,216 --> 00:32:32,749 Rick Hall was his own engineer. 582 00:32:32,751 --> 00:32:34,217 He built the studio. 583 00:32:34,219 --> 00:32:38,021 He knew all the electrical wiring in there. 584 00:32:38,023 --> 00:32:39,990 And that drummer they had was fantastic. 585 00:32:39,992 --> 00:32:41,725 He was a funky drummer, but he wasn't 586 00:32:41,727 --> 00:32:45,128 wearing himself out all over the place. 587 00:32:45,130 --> 00:32:48,098 He was just... he was just there. 588 00:32:50,268 --> 00:32:51,535 We was cookin' away on the thing 589 00:32:51,537 --> 00:32:53,470 and Wexler was in the control room. 590 00:32:53,472 --> 00:32:55,906 He said, "Baby, it's working." 591 00:32:55,908 --> 00:32:58,008 Hey, baby, it's funky." 592 00:33:03,648 --> 00:33:09,553 Rick Hall had a rhythm section of exceptional players. 593 00:33:14,192 --> 00:33:17,127 This was very inspirational to me. 594 00:33:17,129 --> 00:33:20,130 Jerry came out at the end of the first day, 595 00:33:20,132 --> 00:33:24,067 we had just cut "Land of 1,000 Dances," 596 00:33:24,069 --> 00:33:26,136 and he walks out in front of Roger, 597 00:33:26,138 --> 00:33:30,941 and Roger's ears had never heard anything like this. 598 00:33:30,943 --> 00:33:32,109 He said, "Roger." 599 00:33:32,111 --> 00:33:33,377 I said, "Yes, sir?" 600 00:33:33,379 --> 00:33:37,214 He said, "Roger, you're a great drummer." 601 00:33:37,216 --> 00:33:38,715 And all of a sudden, it just- 602 00:33:38,717 --> 00:33:42,919 I just kind of relaxed and became a great drummer, 603 00:33:42,921 --> 00:33:46,556 just like he said I was. 604 00:33:46,558 --> 00:33:48,892 After my first night in that studio with them, 605 00:33:48,894 --> 00:33:52,729 I was convinced that that could be a recording home for me. 606 00:33:52,731 --> 00:33:55,732 ♪ Mustang Sally 607 00:33:55,734 --> 00:33:59,669 We cut "Mustang Sally" all that, "Funky Broadway," 608 00:33:59,671 --> 00:34:03,140 "The Land of 1,000 Whole Dances." 609 00:34:03,142 --> 00:34:05,175 Boy, these dirty slickers chewin' the... 610 00:34:05,177 --> 00:34:07,477 "How do you like that, Wilson?" 611 00:34:07,479 --> 00:34:11,014 Pickett and I were soul brothers, we were. 612 00:34:11,016 --> 00:34:12,049 We was nitty gritty. 613 00:34:12,051 --> 00:34:15,585 Down in the cold nitty gritty. 614 00:34:15,587 --> 00:34:19,723 ♪ Oh, guess I have to put your flat feet on the ground now ♪ 615 00:34:19,725 --> 00:34:23,927 Everything was just roses with me, with Jerry Wexler. 616 00:34:23,929 --> 00:34:26,196 Jerry took a liking to us 617 00:34:26,198 --> 00:34:30,967 from the very beginning. 618 00:34:30,969 --> 00:34:33,203 There's just something that leaps out of a record, 619 00:34:33,205 --> 00:34:36,640 I call it the sonority of the record. 620 00:34:36,642 --> 00:34:39,142 It's the way the sound of the record impacts 621 00:34:39,144 --> 00:34:41,711 on the ear, instantly. 622 00:34:41,713 --> 00:34:43,346 And to me, that's the magic ingredient 623 00:34:43,348 --> 00:34:45,015 in a phonograph record. 624 00:34:45,017 --> 00:34:50,253 ♪ Oh, I got to put your flat feet on the ground ♪ 625 00:34:50,255 --> 00:34:52,756 The Rolling Stones had it, the Beatles had it, 626 00:34:52,758 --> 00:34:56,460 and they had it, and so from then on, 627 00:34:56,462 --> 00:34:59,796 Muscle Shoals became the place that I preferred to go 628 00:34:59,798 --> 00:35:01,465 and loved to go. 629 00:35:08,906 --> 00:35:14,010 I grew up north of Florence. 630 00:35:14,012 --> 00:35:15,979 It really wasn't a town, 631 00:35:15,981 --> 00:35:18,281 just a dirt road. 632 00:35:20,918 --> 00:35:23,019 The only way to get to Florence, at that time, 633 00:35:23,021 --> 00:35:24,454 we had no car. 634 00:35:24,456 --> 00:35:26,690 My mom and I would walk 635 00:35:26,692 --> 00:35:30,026 from the dirt road down to the highway 636 00:35:30,028 --> 00:35:32,829 to catch a bus to go into Florence, 637 00:35:32,831 --> 00:35:36,333 which was five miles away. 638 00:35:36,335 --> 00:35:38,335 I was born in Sheffield, Alabama, 639 00:35:38,337 --> 00:35:41,738 and graduated from Sheffield High School. 640 00:35:41,740 --> 00:35:44,040 While in high school, I would see 641 00:35:44,042 --> 00:35:45,775 Hollis Dixon and the Keynotes. 642 00:35:45,777 --> 00:35:48,211 Was the first rock 'n' roll band around here, 643 00:35:48,213 --> 00:35:49,746 and I just fell in love with that. 644 00:35:49,748 --> 00:35:52,816 I thought, "I've gotta learn how to do that." 645 00:35:55,720 --> 00:35:57,587 You got Roger Hawkins in a group called 646 00:35:57,589 --> 00:35:58,622 The Del Rays. 647 00:35:58,624 --> 00:36:00,457 Jimmy Johnson was playing guitar. 648 00:36:00,459 --> 00:36:01,825 I remember hearing the Del Rays 649 00:36:01,827 --> 00:36:04,227 when I was going to University of Alabama. 650 00:36:04,229 --> 00:36:05,996 And I remember, I could not get into 651 00:36:05,998 --> 00:36:07,664 the fraternity house. 652 00:36:07,666 --> 00:36:09,699 So I had to stay outside and listen to it. 653 00:36:09,701 --> 00:36:12,969 I mean, the ground was rumbling, okay? 654 00:36:12,971 --> 00:36:15,572 It was such a great band. 655 00:36:15,574 --> 00:36:18,542 We met each other when we started playing 656 00:36:18,544 --> 00:36:20,377 at the Tuscumbia National Guard Armory 657 00:36:20,379 --> 00:36:23,213 at the square dance. 658 00:36:23,215 --> 00:36:25,215 Half the night was rock 'n' roll, 659 00:36:25,217 --> 00:36:29,119 and then after that it was all square dance. 660 00:36:29,121 --> 00:36:31,888 We made $10 each for that. 661 00:36:38,863 --> 00:36:44,134 After Wilson Pickett, I became Jerry's right hand man. 662 00:36:44,136 --> 00:36:48,104 And so he said, "I'm thinkin' about signing a new act", 663 00:36:48,106 --> 00:36:49,506 her name is Aretha Franklin. 664 00:36:49,508 --> 00:36:51,608 She's on CBS Records and it's not happening, 665 00:36:51,610 --> 00:36:53,777 they can't sell records on her. 666 00:36:53,779 --> 00:37:00,884 ♪ I'm only one step ahead of heartbreak ♪ 667 00:37:00,886 --> 00:37:03,186 I had heard her real smooth records 668 00:37:03,188 --> 00:37:04,688 on Columbia. 669 00:37:04,690 --> 00:37:07,224 You couldn't really get your teeth into 'em. 670 00:37:07,226 --> 00:37:11,494 ♪ One step is all I have to take ♪ 671 00:37:11,496 --> 00:37:13,930 These lush arrangements that she was doing at CBS, 672 00:37:13,932 --> 00:37:16,600 which weren't successful either. 673 00:37:16,602 --> 00:37:17,701 No one knew what to do with her, 674 00:37:17,703 --> 00:37:19,202 she had this great voice, 675 00:37:19,204 --> 00:37:21,838 but lots of people have a great voice. 676 00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:25,442 I've still got to find out who and what I really am. 677 00:37:25,444 --> 00:37:27,477 I don't know yet. 678 00:37:27,479 --> 00:37:29,646 I'm trying to find the answer. 679 00:37:29,648 --> 00:37:31,548 I wasn't exactly hoping that she wouldn't have 680 00:37:31,550 --> 00:37:33,917 any hits on Columbia Records, 681 00:37:33,919 --> 00:37:36,820 but the way it went, they dropped her after five years. 682 00:37:36,822 --> 00:37:38,888 A week later we were in my office in New York, 683 00:37:38,890 --> 00:37:40,290 we signed her up. 684 00:37:40,292 --> 00:37:43,026 He said, "You know, I've got this great little studio" 685 00:37:43,028 --> 00:37:45,428 down in Muscle Shoals, 686 00:37:45,430 --> 00:37:48,832 and these cats... these cats are really greasy. 687 00:37:48,834 --> 00:37:50,533 "You gonna love it." 688 00:37:50,535 --> 00:37:53,136 ♪ 689 00:37:53,138 --> 00:37:55,272 She walks in, 690 00:37:55,274 --> 00:37:56,706 right over there. 691 00:37:56,708 --> 00:37:58,541 ♪ 692 00:37:58,543 --> 00:38:02,445 And she's got this aura around her pretty thick. 693 00:38:02,447 --> 00:38:06,716 I mean, the girl was special. 694 00:38:06,718 --> 00:38:10,820 I remember watchin' the guys bein' good southern boys, 695 00:38:10,822 --> 00:38:12,622 and they'd carry on with anything 696 00:38:12,624 --> 00:38:15,258 except looking or dealing with her. 697 00:38:15,260 --> 00:38:17,661 ♪ 698 00:38:17,663 --> 00:38:20,897 So she walked right over to the piano. 699 00:38:20,899 --> 00:38:23,933 She sat there a moment. 700 00:38:23,935 --> 00:38:27,704 And then she just hit this unknown chord, I would say. 701 00:38:27,706 --> 00:38:30,607 ♪ 702 00:38:30,609 --> 00:38:34,978 Didn't anybody have to say, "We're about to cut." 703 00:38:34,980 --> 00:38:38,381 We did what we called head sessions at that time, 704 00:38:38,383 --> 00:38:41,718 and there was no real music written for it. 705 00:38:41,720 --> 00:38:45,622 The musicians would just listen to what it was I was doing, 706 00:38:45,624 --> 00:38:49,759 and then they would decide what they were gonna do around that. 707 00:38:49,761 --> 00:38:53,029 I think we heard a little demo of this song, 708 00:38:53,031 --> 00:38:55,498 "Never Loved a Man the Way I Loved You." 709 00:38:55,500 --> 00:38:58,001 To me it sounded pretty much like junk. 710 00:38:58,003 --> 00:39:01,438 I'm thinkin', "That's the song they gonna cut?" 711 00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:02,672 There was discussions. 712 00:39:02,674 --> 00:39:04,674 Jerry Wexler and Rick. 713 00:39:04,676 --> 00:39:07,711 There was a little confusion and there was a little turmoil. 714 00:39:07,713 --> 00:39:09,979 Everybody was a little uptight. 715 00:39:09,981 --> 00:39:14,417 We can't find a groove, a beat, a place to start. 716 00:39:14,419 --> 00:39:16,820 They were... just had all these gears workin', 717 00:39:16,822 --> 00:39:22,225 but finally it just came to a... 718 00:39:22,227 --> 00:39:25,562 And suddenly it was really quiet. 719 00:39:25,564 --> 00:39:27,297 They had a song, they had an artist, 720 00:39:27,299 --> 00:39:29,199 but nobody knew what to do. 721 00:39:29,201 --> 00:39:32,535 Not even all these geniuses. 722 00:39:32,537 --> 00:39:35,605 But out of that quietness came Spooner with... 723 00:39:35,607 --> 00:39:36,107 ♪ 724 00:39:39,711 --> 00:39:42,112 And I said, "Hey, Spooner's got it! 725 00:39:42,114 --> 00:39:43,446 That's it." 726 00:39:43,448 --> 00:39:45,582 Aretha jumped right on it. 727 00:39:45,584 --> 00:39:50,086 ♪ You're a no good heartbreaker ♪ 728 00:39:50,088 --> 00:39:53,456 ♪ You're a liar and you're a cheat ♪ 729 00:39:53,458 --> 00:39:56,526 It was cut within 15 to 20 minutes. 730 00:39:56,528 --> 00:39:58,695 You didn't have to ask, "What do you think?" 731 00:39:58,697 --> 00:40:00,296 Everybody knew it was a hit. 732 00:40:00,298 --> 00:40:04,067 I think everything came together for Aretha in Muscle Shoals. 733 00:40:04,069 --> 00:40:08,905 They got Aretha to record a much more funky kind of style 734 00:40:08,907 --> 00:40:10,006 in Muscle Shoals. 735 00:40:10,008 --> 00:40:13,276 It was really the essence of her. 736 00:40:13,278 --> 00:40:16,012 ♪ 'Cause I ain't never 737 00:40:16,014 --> 00:40:17,781 ♪ I ain't never 738 00:40:17,783 --> 00:40:20,884 ♪ I ain't never, no, no ♪ 739 00:40:20,886 --> 00:40:26,489 ♪ Loved a man the way that I I love you ♪ 740 00:40:26,491 --> 00:40:29,592 Coming to Muscle Shoals was the turning point. 741 00:40:29,594 --> 00:40:32,495 That's where I recorded "I Never Loved a Man," 742 00:40:32,497 --> 00:40:36,065 which became my first million-selling record. 743 00:40:36,067 --> 00:40:39,636 So absolutely it was a milestone 744 00:40:39,638 --> 00:40:43,907 and the turning point in my career. 745 00:40:43,909 --> 00:40:46,176 ♪ Oh oh oh 746 00:40:46,178 --> 00:40:48,011 ♪ Yeah 747 00:40:48,013 --> 00:40:50,480 ♪ Yeah 748 00:40:50,482 --> 00:40:52,215 ♪ I ain't never loved a man 749 00:40:52,217 --> 00:40:55,718 We cut "I Never Loved a Man," which people to this day 750 00:40:55,720 --> 00:40:59,722 still regard as being maybe her most soulful 751 00:40:59,724 --> 00:41:01,491 and really funkiest record. 752 00:41:01,493 --> 00:41:03,660 ♪ Well, this is what I'm gonna do about it ♪ 753 00:41:03,662 --> 00:41:06,329 That's one of those songs, 754 00:41:06,331 --> 00:41:08,565 the ones that give you the chills, 755 00:41:08,567 --> 00:41:10,867 the ones that give you the goose bumps, 756 00:41:10,869 --> 00:41:12,001 the ones that you're like, 757 00:41:12,003 --> 00:41:15,071 "I wish I sang a record like that." 758 00:41:15,073 --> 00:41:18,341 ♪ 759 00:41:18,343 --> 00:41:22,345 We had a whole week planned to cut tracks, a whole week, 760 00:41:22,347 --> 00:41:24,047 but at the end of the session 761 00:41:24,049 --> 00:41:27,784 we found out that there was a problem. 762 00:41:27,786 --> 00:41:29,686 There was a ruckus. 763 00:41:29,688 --> 00:41:31,120 One of the horn players, 764 00:41:31,122 --> 00:41:33,590 and Aretha's then husband, Ted White, 765 00:41:33,592 --> 00:41:36,159 got into it. 766 00:41:36,161 --> 00:41:39,162 This new horn player started saying things like, 767 00:41:39,164 --> 00:41:42,899 "Aretha, baby," and it was just enough 768 00:41:42,901 --> 00:41:45,401 that Ted White got offended. 769 00:41:45,403 --> 00:41:47,837 They'd been drinkin' from the same jug, 770 00:41:47,839 --> 00:41:50,707 and now this camaraderie and great palship 771 00:41:50,709 --> 00:41:55,311 turned into some kind of alcoholic hostility. 772 00:41:55,313 --> 00:41:58,648 Ted comes into the control room with Wexler and I and says, 773 00:41:58,650 --> 00:42:01,718 "I want the trumpet player fired." 774 00:42:01,720 --> 00:42:03,219 I looked at Wexler and I said, "What do you think?" 775 00:42:03,221 --> 00:42:05,722 He said, "Go fire him." 776 00:42:05,724 --> 00:42:08,024 So I went and fired him. 777 00:42:08,026 --> 00:42:13,630 That later caused a big argument and caused the session to end. 778 00:42:13,632 --> 00:42:15,098 I got a hold of the bottle of vodka 779 00:42:15,100 --> 00:42:18,067 and I took a couple... three drinks of it. 780 00:42:18,069 --> 00:42:19,969 And I said, "Wexler, I'm gonna go over to the hotel" 781 00:42:19,971 --> 00:42:25,642 and get with Ted and them and we'll work this thing out." 782 00:42:25,644 --> 00:42:27,477 He said, "No, I don't want you to go." 783 00:42:27,479 --> 00:42:29,979 And I said, "Yeah, well, I'm not gonna start any trouble," 784 00:42:29,981 --> 00:42:31,548 I said, "I'll go over and work it out." 785 00:42:31,550 --> 00:42:32,849 We'll become buddies 786 00:42:32,851 --> 00:42:34,484 "and I'll work everything out." 787 00:42:34,486 --> 00:42:38,655 He said, "No, Rick, don't go, please don't go." 788 00:42:38,657 --> 00:42:41,357 So anyhow, I had had a couple more drinks 789 00:42:41,359 --> 00:42:43,226 and I went over then. 790 00:42:43,228 --> 00:42:43,728 ♪ 791 00:42:49,501 --> 00:42:51,334 Banged on Ted and Aretha's door 792 00:42:51,336 --> 00:42:52,869 and Ted came to the door. 793 00:42:52,871 --> 00:42:55,538 And he started pointing his finger in my face and so forth. 794 00:42:55,540 --> 00:42:57,640 And we fought and fought and fought. 795 00:42:57,642 --> 00:42:59,442 He was trying to throw me over the balcony 796 00:42:59,444 --> 00:43:00,476 and I was trying to throw him. 797 00:43:00,478 --> 00:43:01,578 It was downtown, and we was up 798 00:43:01,580 --> 00:43:03,179 on about the fourth floor. 799 00:43:03,181 --> 00:43:06,683 ♪ 800 00:43:06,685 --> 00:43:10,753 My former husband never came back that night 801 00:43:10,755 --> 00:43:13,122 and I decided that I was leaving. 802 00:43:13,124 --> 00:43:15,725 I had never been to Muscle Shoals before, 803 00:43:15,727 --> 00:43:18,127 or away from home, really, by myself. 804 00:43:18,129 --> 00:43:20,263 And so I just said, "I'm going to the airport." 805 00:43:20,265 --> 00:43:24,267 And when I got to the airport, I saw him with the bell captain. 806 00:43:24,269 --> 00:43:28,771 I said, "Whoa, this son of a gun was gonna leave me down here." 807 00:43:28,773 --> 00:43:30,373 Unbelievable. 808 00:43:30,375 --> 00:43:33,643 ♪ 809 00:43:33,645 --> 00:43:36,746 They left town the next day, early. 810 00:43:36,748 --> 00:43:38,448 So Wexler came and said to me, 811 00:43:38,450 --> 00:43:42,352 "I will never set foot in this studio as long as I live again. 812 00:43:42,354 --> 00:43:44,253 I will bury you." 813 00:43:44,255 --> 00:43:45,521 And I said, "You can't bury me." 814 00:43:45,523 --> 00:43:46,689 He said, "Why can't I?" 815 00:43:46,691 --> 00:43:48,858 I said, "Because you're too old. 816 00:43:48,860 --> 00:43:50,994 I'll be around after you're gone." 817 00:43:50,996 --> 00:43:51,496 ♪ 818 00:43:55,567 --> 00:43:58,935 So the next day I showed up and on the board it says, 819 00:43:58,937 --> 00:44:01,137 "Session Cancelled." 820 00:44:01,139 --> 00:44:06,075 And I thought, "Oh, man, it's over, we've had it." 821 00:44:06,077 --> 00:44:08,745 But a few days later Jerry Wexler calls 822 00:44:08,747 --> 00:44:10,980 and asks if we can go to New York 823 00:44:10,982 --> 00:44:13,549 and finish the album there. 824 00:44:13,551 --> 00:44:15,618 He didn't have to ask us twice. 825 00:44:15,620 --> 00:44:19,322 ♪ 826 00:44:19,324 --> 00:44:24,727 On that album was "R-E-S-P-E-C-T, Respect." 827 00:44:24,729 --> 00:44:26,829 ♪ What you want 828 00:44:26,831 --> 00:44:29,032 ♪ Baby I got 829 00:44:29,034 --> 00:44:30,833 To be a part of something like that 830 00:44:30,835 --> 00:44:32,735 is unbelievable. 831 00:44:32,737 --> 00:44:35,204 It was milestone stuff. 832 00:44:35,206 --> 00:44:37,173 ♪ Is for a little respect when you come home ♪ 833 00:44:37,175 --> 00:44:39,275 - ♪ Just a little bit - ♪ Hey, baby 834 00:44:39,277 --> 00:44:42,345 - ♪ When you get home - ♪ Just a little bit 835 00:44:42,347 --> 00:44:45,314 - ♪ Mister - ♪ Just a little bit 836 00:44:45,316 --> 00:44:47,950 The Swampers went on and recorded with Aretha 837 00:44:47,952 --> 00:44:49,318 on many hit records. 838 00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:51,821 "Sweet, Sweet Baby," "Natural Woman," 839 00:44:51,823 --> 00:44:54,023 "Think," "The House that Jack Built," 840 00:44:54,025 --> 00:44:56,826 "Call Me," "Do Right Woman, Do Right Man," 841 00:44:56,828 --> 00:45:01,230 "Chain of Fools," and so many, many others. 842 00:45:01,232 --> 00:45:03,466 Of course it worked out incredibly. 843 00:45:03,468 --> 00:45:05,868 And it's been one of the anomalies, I think, 844 00:45:05,870 --> 00:45:09,839 of the era that Aretha's greatest work 845 00:45:09,841 --> 00:45:12,275 came with a studio full of Caucasian musicians. 846 00:45:12,277 --> 00:45:13,409 How do you figure it? 847 00:45:13,411 --> 00:45:15,578 This is the Queen of Soul acknowledged. 848 00:45:15,580 --> 00:45:17,680 Here we have Roger Hawkins, 849 00:45:17,682 --> 00:45:19,749 and David Hood, Jimmy Johnson, 850 00:45:19,751 --> 00:45:22,285 Barry Beckett, Spooner Oldham 851 00:45:22,287 --> 00:45:24,087 coming out with probably the deepest 852 00:45:24,089 --> 00:45:26,489 and most intense R&B of the era. 853 00:45:26,491 --> 00:45:30,693 ♪ R-E-S-P-E-C-T find out what it means to me ♪ 854 00:45:30,695 --> 00:45:34,697 ♪ R-E-S-P-E-C-T take care T-C-B ♪ 855 00:45:34,699 --> 00:45:37,266 ♪ Oh a little respect 856 00:45:37,268 --> 00:45:38,835 ♪ Sock it to me, sock it to me, sock it to me ♪ 857 00:45:38,837 --> 00:45:41,537 ♪ Whoa, babe, a little respect ♪ 858 00:45:41,539 --> 00:45:42,905 ♪ Just a little bit 859 00:45:42,907 --> 00:45:46,609 ♪ I get tired Keep on tryin' ♪ 860 00:45:46,611 --> 00:45:49,278 ♪ You're running out of fools and I ain't lyin' ♪ 861 00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:51,914 So after my dispute with Wexler, 862 00:45:51,916 --> 00:45:54,984 he took Aretha away. 863 00:45:54,986 --> 00:45:57,954 And on my part, I felt like I had really screwed up, 864 00:45:57,956 --> 00:46:02,625 so I went to Chicago and I spoke to Leonard Chess 865 00:46:02,627 --> 00:46:04,594 'cause he said, "I wonder what I gotta do 866 00:46:04,596 --> 00:46:08,131 to get you to do some sides for Chess Records." 867 00:46:08,133 --> 00:46:09,565 I said, "Who do you want me to do?" 868 00:46:09,567 --> 00:46:11,601 He said, "I'd like you to do Etta James." 869 00:46:11,603 --> 00:46:12,103 ♪ 870 00:46:17,142 --> 00:46:19,175 When I looked at him, I says, "God, Rick Hall." 871 00:46:19,177 --> 00:46:21,611 So this is fame, recording studios, 872 00:46:21,613 --> 00:46:25,181 and I'm in Alabama and now this is gonna be, 873 00:46:25,183 --> 00:46:26,549 you know, the real thing here. 874 00:46:26,551 --> 00:46:28,451 "I'm gonna get some of the Alabama mud," 875 00:46:28,453 --> 00:46:30,653 you know, all of that kind of stuff. 876 00:46:30,655 --> 00:46:35,725 Etta James is probably one of my favorite chicks of all time. 877 00:46:35,727 --> 00:46:39,695 Leonard said, "You know, Rick, I built my company on her back." 878 00:46:39,697 --> 00:46:43,499 When you think she's singing as good as she can sing, 879 00:46:43,501 --> 00:46:48,237 "if you'll kick her ass and wind her up," 880 00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:52,542 he said, "She can rattle the shingles on this studio." 881 00:46:52,544 --> 00:46:56,379 ♪ You thought you hadn't found a good girl ♪ 882 00:46:56,381 --> 00:46:59,982 ♪ One to love you and give you the world ♪ 883 00:46:59,984 --> 00:47:03,586 Rick Hall was actually the first white man 884 00:47:03,588 --> 00:47:06,522 that I had seen that had that kind of soul, 885 00:47:06,524 --> 00:47:10,993 that was an engineer and was soulful, you know? 886 00:47:10,995 --> 00:47:13,129 We recorded a Clarence Carter song. 887 00:47:13,131 --> 00:47:15,364 With Clarence it was, "Tell Daddy," 888 00:47:15,366 --> 00:47:18,100 but with Etta it was, "Tell Mama." 889 00:47:18,102 --> 00:47:20,036 She didn't want to do the song 890 00:47:20,038 --> 00:47:22,271 because I think she had a problem 891 00:47:22,273 --> 00:47:24,574 with somebody suggesting to her 892 00:47:24,576 --> 00:47:27,510 that she was gonna take care of some man. 893 00:47:27,512 --> 00:47:29,879 I would be so hardheaded and, you know, just, 894 00:47:29,881 --> 00:47:32,215 "Don't tell me nothin'," you know? 895 00:47:32,217 --> 00:47:35,985 She had a temper like a lion. 896 00:47:35,987 --> 00:47:37,453 I said, "If you'll do it for an hour", 897 00:47:37,455 --> 00:47:39,322 and it's not happening, we'll garbage it, 898 00:47:39,324 --> 00:47:40,923 "we'll throw it in the garbage." 899 00:47:40,925 --> 00:47:42,191 I finally realized 900 00:47:42,193 --> 00:47:46,395 everything that he used to badger me about, 901 00:47:46,397 --> 00:47:48,297 he was always right. 902 00:47:48,299 --> 00:47:52,201 ♪ Tell mama all about it ♪ 903 00:47:52,203 --> 00:47:56,405 ♪ Tell mama what you need ♪ 904 00:47:56,407 --> 00:47:58,241 ♪ Tell mama 905 00:47:58,243 --> 00:48:02,278 And, of course, the record was to become a big, big hit on her. 906 00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:05,581 Everybody said that that song raised her from the grave, 907 00:48:05,583 --> 00:48:09,085 you know, and brought her back to prominence. 908 00:48:09,087 --> 00:48:12,922 Each time a person went to Muscle Shoals, 909 00:48:12,924 --> 00:48:14,557 they came out of there with a hit record. 910 00:48:14,559 --> 00:48:17,693 You had to know that there was something magic 911 00:48:17,695 --> 00:48:19,929 in Muscle Shoals. 912 00:48:41,351 --> 00:48:43,119 The spirit of Muscle Shoals 913 00:48:43,121 --> 00:48:50,226 permeates not only the city itself, physically, 914 00:48:50,228 --> 00:48:53,696 but I think the people who came through there. 915 00:48:55,899 --> 00:48:58,167 The place has a soul. 916 00:48:58,169 --> 00:48:58,669 ♪ 917 00:49:07,078 --> 00:49:10,046 W.C. Handy was from the Muscle Shoals area 918 00:49:10,048 --> 00:49:14,150 and everyone that knows about the blues 919 00:49:14,152 --> 00:49:16,819 is familiar with W.C. Handy. 920 00:49:16,821 --> 00:49:17,321 ♪ 921 00:49:21,759 --> 00:49:25,261 Well, he's one of the great popularizers of the blues. 922 00:49:25,263 --> 00:49:28,464 Before it was a kind of gutbucket music 923 00:49:28,466 --> 00:49:31,000 that didn't have a lot of respect. 924 00:49:31,002 --> 00:49:35,171 He kind of legitimized the music. 925 00:49:35,173 --> 00:49:36,405 ♪ 926 00:49:36,407 --> 00:49:39,075 All the bands were playing the same thing, 927 00:49:39,077 --> 00:49:41,344 but no one had written it down. 928 00:49:41,346 --> 00:49:44,880 Well, he was the first one to write it down. 929 00:49:44,882 --> 00:49:46,882 That made him Father of the Blues 930 00:49:46,884 --> 00:49:48,818 and made this area famous. 931 00:49:48,820 --> 00:49:52,788 ♪ 932 00:49:52,790 --> 00:49:56,058 Sam Phillips was also from the Muscle Shoals area. 933 00:49:56,060 --> 00:49:59,962 And Sam was kind of my tutor and I kind of looked upon him 934 00:49:59,964 --> 00:50:03,199 as being the guy I wanted to be. 935 00:50:03,201 --> 00:50:05,434 ♪ 936 00:50:05,436 --> 00:50:07,470 Sam Phillips came out of there. 937 00:50:07,472 --> 00:50:09,805 I mean, didn't he invent rock and roll or something? 938 00:50:09,807 --> 00:50:13,209 My dad, Sam Phillips, was the first to record Elvis, 939 00:50:13,211 --> 00:50:17,446 Johnny Cash, Jerry Lee Lewis, Carl Perkins, Roy Orbison, 940 00:50:17,448 --> 00:50:19,181 but a lot of people don't realize 941 00:50:19,183 --> 00:50:21,317 that he only worked specifically with black artists 942 00:50:21,319 --> 00:50:23,152 in the very beginning. 943 00:50:23,154 --> 00:50:25,755 Well, the basic feeling I had for black artists 944 00:50:25,757 --> 00:50:28,724 of course originated when I was very young 945 00:50:28,726 --> 00:50:31,494 on a farm in Alabama. 946 00:50:31,496 --> 00:50:35,364 I felt a certain spirituality about the black man's music. 947 00:50:35,366 --> 00:50:37,700 And hearin' it in the cotton fields, 948 00:50:37,702 --> 00:50:42,605 that made one hell of an impression on me. 949 00:50:42,607 --> 00:50:46,175 Mr. Phillips heard people singing in the fields 950 00:50:46,177 --> 00:50:48,577 and heard trains rumbling through 951 00:50:48,579 --> 00:50:50,913 and the river roaring around the bend 952 00:50:50,915 --> 00:50:52,681 down here in the shoals. 953 00:50:52,683 --> 00:50:56,352 It's a subconscious rhythm that gets in your head. 954 00:50:56,354 --> 00:50:58,587 There's like a groove, there's a pocket 955 00:50:58,589 --> 00:51:01,791 that sticks in your gut. 956 00:51:01,793 --> 00:51:03,626 It's connected all of us. 957 00:51:03,628 --> 00:51:04,128 ♪ 958 00:51:07,665 --> 00:51:11,233 Helen Keller was from Muscle Shoals, 959 00:51:11,235 --> 00:51:14,103 and it was just always amazing to me 960 00:51:14,105 --> 00:51:17,339 the things she was able to accomplish 961 00:51:17,341 --> 00:51:19,875 being blind and deaf. 962 00:51:19,877 --> 00:51:22,645 ♪ 963 00:51:22,647 --> 00:51:26,315 Helen Keller was deaf, completely mute, 964 00:51:26,317 --> 00:51:27,883 completely blind. 965 00:51:27,885 --> 00:51:30,286 And her only way of communicating with the world 966 00:51:30,288 --> 00:51:34,323 is with gestures. 967 00:51:34,325 --> 00:51:37,560 You can still go to her house and see the well 968 00:51:37,562 --> 00:51:40,663 where she learned her first word, 969 00:51:40,665 --> 00:51:42,832 which was "water." 970 00:51:42,834 --> 00:51:45,534 There's obviously an incredible connection 971 00:51:45,536 --> 00:51:47,803 to water here. 972 00:51:47,805 --> 00:51:51,307 So you can see why that would be the first word 973 00:51:51,309 --> 00:51:55,344 that Helen Keller learned, "water." 974 00:51:55,346 --> 00:52:00,015 There's such a power in this place, 975 00:52:00,017 --> 00:52:02,985 and you feel it whether you can hear it and see it 976 00:52:02,987 --> 00:52:04,687 or not. 977 00:52:04,689 --> 00:52:05,189 ♪ 978 00:52:17,235 --> 00:52:19,935 I'm a great believer that landscape 979 00:52:19,937 --> 00:52:24,273 is always very important in music, 980 00:52:24,275 --> 00:52:29,278 and somehow music can reflect landscapes. 981 00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:34,783 ♪ Something told me it was over ♪ 982 00:52:34,785 --> 00:52:36,152 ♪ 983 00:52:36,154 --> 00:52:38,487 ♪ Yeah 984 00:52:38,489 --> 00:52:42,925 ♪ When I saw you and her talking ♪ 985 00:52:42,927 --> 00:52:47,096 People ask me always, "What is the Muscle Shoals sound?" 986 00:52:47,098 --> 00:52:48,564 You had a lot of black musicians 987 00:52:48,566 --> 00:52:50,733 playing with a lot of white musicians, 988 00:52:50,735 --> 00:52:53,035 and we all got a different way of playing, 989 00:52:53,037 --> 00:52:54,937 but it blends so well together. 990 00:52:54,939 --> 00:52:58,407 There was this coming together of styles. 991 00:52:58,409 --> 00:53:00,576 And there was some hillbilly background there, 992 00:53:00,578 --> 00:53:02,411 there's some black music. 993 00:53:02,413 --> 00:53:07,183 We were open minded to be any genre. 994 00:53:07,185 --> 00:53:09,251 ♪ Ooh 995 00:53:09,253 --> 00:53:13,756 ♪ I would rather I would rather go blind, boy ♪ 996 00:53:13,758 --> 00:53:14,258 ♪ 997 00:53:17,929 --> 00:53:22,998 ♪ Than to see you walk away from me, child ♪ 998 00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:25,167 ♪ 999 00:53:25,169 --> 00:53:26,268 ♪ Hoo 1000 00:53:26,270 --> 00:53:27,803 The Muscle Shoals sound, I think, 1001 00:53:27,805 --> 00:53:32,908 has a very heavy bass and drum featured in the sound. 1002 00:53:32,910 --> 00:53:36,212 And it's just... that was what sounded right to us. 1003 00:53:36,214 --> 00:53:38,581 "Turn up the bass, turn up the drums." 1004 00:53:38,583 --> 00:53:41,784 This was, at the time, cutting edge technology. 1005 00:53:41,786 --> 00:53:45,588 The fact that a drum kit could be close-mic'd 1006 00:53:45,590 --> 00:53:48,057 meant that they could turn up the bass drum. 1007 00:53:48,059 --> 00:53:52,294 That's what created that blacker sound, that African sound, 1008 00:53:52,296 --> 00:53:55,831 that allowed you to be sweet on the topsoil 1009 00:53:55,833 --> 00:53:58,067 but knowing that deep down in the ground 1010 00:53:58,069 --> 00:54:00,002 there was some fierceness. 1011 00:54:00,004 --> 00:54:01,537 ♪ Ooh 1012 00:54:01,539 --> 00:54:05,407 ♪ I was just I was just ♪ 1013 00:54:05,409 --> 00:54:09,111 ♪ I was just sittin' here thinkin' ♪ 1014 00:54:09,113 --> 00:54:10,613 ♪ Ooh 1015 00:54:10,615 --> 00:54:15,517 ♪ Of your kiss and your warm embrace yeah ♪ 1016 00:54:15,519 --> 00:54:18,721 Woo, come on, there. 1017 00:54:21,124 --> 00:54:23,592 Woo! Woo! 1018 00:54:23,594 --> 00:54:24,094 ♪ 1019 00:54:28,299 --> 00:54:30,032 When I was a young boy, 1020 00:54:30,034 --> 00:54:32,234 my mother was washing clothes 1021 00:54:32,236 --> 00:54:35,771 out in the yard with a wash pot. 1022 00:54:35,773 --> 00:54:40,276 And the pot had boiling hot water in it. 1023 00:54:40,278 --> 00:54:42,645 My brother, who was three years old, 1024 00:54:42,647 --> 00:54:45,881 was playing in the backyard with my first cousin, 1025 00:54:45,883 --> 00:54:48,417 and they were pulling on a stick. 1026 00:54:48,419 --> 00:54:49,852 My brother ran backwards 1027 00:54:49,854 --> 00:54:52,621 and fell into the pot of scalding water. 1028 00:54:52,623 --> 00:54:55,958 ♪ 1029 00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:58,494 So my mother took him in her arms 1030 00:54:58,496 --> 00:55:00,529 and went screaming across the field 1031 00:55:00,531 --> 00:55:02,998 hunting my father. 1032 00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:05,968 He came running and they took him to the doctor 1033 00:55:05,970 --> 00:55:08,671 in Red Bay, Alabama. 1034 00:55:08,673 --> 00:55:11,173 And they took his clothes off 1035 00:55:11,175 --> 00:55:12,608 and all of his skin came off 1036 00:55:12,610 --> 00:55:14,810 inside of his clothes. 1037 00:55:14,812 --> 00:55:15,312 ♪ 1038 00:55:19,383 --> 00:55:21,583 He died three days later. 1039 00:55:21,585 --> 00:55:24,186 ♪ 1040 00:55:24,188 --> 00:55:25,988 That was the start of the decline 1041 00:55:25,990 --> 00:55:29,792 between my father's and my mother's relationship. 1042 00:55:29,794 --> 00:55:32,561 ♪ 1043 00:55:32,563 --> 00:55:35,664 He kind of blamed her for the accident, 1044 00:55:35,666 --> 00:55:38,901 and she probably blamed him for not being at home. 1045 00:55:38,903 --> 00:55:41,804 ♪ 1046 00:55:41,806 --> 00:55:43,872 She left us and said, 1047 00:55:43,874 --> 00:55:45,274 "I'll never live with you again," 1048 00:55:45,276 --> 00:55:47,643 and, "Forget about me." 1049 00:55:47,645 --> 00:55:49,912 ♪ 1050 00:55:49,914 --> 00:55:56,585 She moved in with Aunt Ess who ran a red-light district. 1051 00:55:56,587 --> 00:55:59,722 ♪ 1052 00:55:59,724 --> 00:56:04,893 So my father asked people what she was doing up here. 1053 00:56:04,895 --> 00:56:08,430 And they said, "Well, Herman", 1054 00:56:08,432 --> 00:56:12,301 do you know what the other girls are doing?" 1055 00:56:12,303 --> 00:56:14,503 And he said, "Yes, I do." 1056 00:56:14,505 --> 00:56:19,608 And they said, "Dolly is doing the same thing." 1057 00:56:19,610 --> 00:56:22,711 ♪ 1058 00:56:22,713 --> 00:56:25,114 It was earth shattering for me. 1059 00:56:25,116 --> 00:56:25,616 ♪ 1060 00:56:30,121 --> 00:56:32,888 Even after all these years and being away from her 1061 00:56:32,890 --> 00:56:37,192 and not spending much time with her in my life, 1062 00:56:37,194 --> 00:56:40,662 not a day goes by that I don't really miss my mother. 1063 00:56:40,664 --> 00:56:41,164 ♪ 1064 00:56:50,073 --> 00:56:51,974 More acoustic guitar. 1065 00:56:51,976 --> 00:56:52,476 ♪ 1066 00:56:59,483 --> 00:57:02,284 ♪ I ain't easy to love 1067 00:57:02,286 --> 00:57:05,053 ♪ 1068 00:57:05,055 --> 00:57:08,357 ♪ Scars have made me black and blue ♪ 1069 00:57:08,359 --> 00:57:11,627 ♪ 1070 00:57:11,629 --> 00:57:14,329 ♪ But I feel a lot less broken ♪ 1071 00:57:14,331 --> 00:57:16,165 Okay, all right, hold on. 1072 00:57:16,167 --> 00:57:18,000 There's too much happening. 1073 00:57:18,002 --> 00:57:20,436 I just need the intro and everybody needs to cool it 1074 00:57:20,438 --> 00:57:22,037 a little bit and back off. 1075 00:57:22,039 --> 00:57:23,906 If everybody comes in from the top, 1076 00:57:23,908 --> 00:57:25,574 where are you gonna go from there? 1077 00:57:25,576 --> 00:57:28,243 If you get a chance or two to cut a record, 1078 00:57:28,245 --> 00:57:30,212 produce a record and get a budget to do it with 1079 00:57:30,214 --> 00:57:33,849 and you don't have a hit, you will never get another call. 1080 00:57:33,851 --> 00:57:35,451 So I was always aware of that. 1081 00:57:35,453 --> 00:57:40,689 I always felt that every record, 1082 00:57:40,691 --> 00:57:43,091 my life depended on it. 1083 00:57:43,093 --> 00:57:44,827 Time is like, "time." 1084 00:57:44,829 --> 00:57:46,261 It's like you're whispering that part. 1085 00:57:46,263 --> 00:57:49,131 All right, you know, I can always do mine over. 1086 00:57:49,133 --> 00:57:51,400 I know we can, honey, but I'd like to do it this way. 1087 00:57:51,402 --> 00:57:52,434 All right. 1088 00:57:52,436 --> 00:57:54,236 Rick is so meticulous. 1089 00:57:54,238 --> 00:57:58,073 Oh, it's just a joy and pain to work with Rick. 1090 00:57:58,075 --> 00:58:01,910 'Cause he won't stop until he gets what he wants. 1091 00:58:01,912 --> 00:58:04,980 If it takes three days on one song, 1092 00:58:04,982 --> 00:58:06,782 Rick's gonna get what he wants. 1093 00:58:06,784 --> 00:58:08,550 We're doing just what we just got through doing. 1094 00:58:08,552 --> 00:58:11,119 We're doing the same thing over again, 1095 00:58:11,121 --> 00:58:14,122 and I just want to perfect it a little better. 1096 00:58:14,124 --> 00:58:16,391 We've changed a couple of things, so you gotta listen. 1097 00:58:16,393 --> 00:58:18,961 Rick was a very demanding boss. 1098 00:58:18,963 --> 00:58:23,165 He would take a thousand takes of something 1099 00:58:23,167 --> 00:58:24,433 till he was satisfied. 1100 00:58:24,435 --> 00:58:26,502 And sometimes he would not know 1101 00:58:26,504 --> 00:58:27,736 what he was looking for, 1102 00:58:27,738 --> 00:58:29,938 but he would keep working until he got it. 1103 00:58:29,940 --> 00:58:31,507 I'm talking about... it's too bright. 1104 00:58:31,509 --> 00:58:33,775 Oh, okay, I thought you were... wanted it to be bright. 1105 00:58:33,777 --> 00:58:35,577 Well, I did want it bright until I heard it, 1106 00:58:35,579 --> 00:58:37,946 when you hear it with the track it's a whole different thing. 1107 00:58:37,948 --> 00:58:39,481 You gotta listen to it in perspective. 1108 00:58:39,483 --> 00:58:42,150 That was very frustrating and hard on the musicians 1109 00:58:42,152 --> 00:58:44,086 because you think, "Well, I already did that." 1110 00:58:44,088 --> 00:58:46,688 Nobody ever worked in the music business 1111 00:58:46,690 --> 00:58:49,024 without getting their ass kicked. 1112 00:58:49,026 --> 00:58:50,792 If they did, they're out on the street somewhere 1113 00:58:50,794 --> 00:58:53,795 pushin' a wheelbarrow of concrete. 1114 00:58:53,797 --> 00:58:55,864 He was kind of like a task master, 1115 00:58:55,866 --> 00:58:57,332 and I don't fault him for that 1116 00:58:57,334 --> 00:59:01,570 because he is an imperfect perfectionist. 1117 00:59:01,572 --> 00:59:03,705 That's what made him great though. 1118 00:59:03,707 --> 00:59:06,975 ♪ Oh, please forgive me, darlin' ♪ 1119 00:59:06,977 --> 00:59:09,578 ♪ 1120 00:59:09,580 --> 00:59:14,116 ♪ I ain't easy to love 1121 00:59:15,885 --> 00:59:16,385 ♪ 1122 00:59:25,195 --> 00:59:27,529 Duane Allman, of course, came into Muscle Shoals 1123 00:59:27,531 --> 00:59:29,064 and wanted a gig. 1124 00:59:29,066 --> 00:59:31,567 So he put up his pup tent on my parking lot 1125 00:59:31,569 --> 00:59:33,602 at the studio and found me. 1126 00:59:33,604 --> 00:59:35,737 I gave him his shot. 1127 00:59:35,739 --> 00:59:37,172 When Duane showed up, 1128 00:59:37,174 --> 00:59:39,107 he was probably one of the first guys 1129 00:59:39,109 --> 00:59:41,710 with long hair and kind of the hippie look, 1130 00:59:41,712 --> 00:59:43,312 but what really made him stand out was 1131 00:59:43,314 --> 00:59:45,981 that he was a wonderful guitar player. 1132 00:59:45,983 --> 00:59:46,483 ♪ 1133 00:59:55,559 --> 00:59:57,826 I had never heard a slide guitar 1134 00:59:57,828 --> 01:00:00,262 played like Duane Allman could play it. 1135 01:00:00,264 --> 01:00:02,297 ♪ 1136 01:00:02,299 --> 01:00:04,132 Duane had been in Los Angeles, 1137 01:00:04,134 --> 01:00:06,535 had a group called The Hourglass 1138 01:00:06,537 --> 01:00:08,003 with his brother Gregg. 1139 01:00:08,005 --> 01:00:10,339 They signed us on this big contract, 1140 01:00:10,341 --> 01:00:12,741 and they wouldn't let us play anywhere. 1141 01:00:12,743 --> 01:00:14,242 I think the first year we were there 1142 01:00:14,244 --> 01:00:15,677 we played like three concerts. 1143 01:00:15,679 --> 01:00:17,713 So he finally said, "Hey, I've had it with this place." 1144 01:00:17,715 --> 01:00:19,581 I'm leavin'." 1145 01:00:19,583 --> 01:00:22,384 And he wound up in Muscle Shoals. 1146 01:00:22,386 --> 01:00:24,987 But right before he left, 1147 01:00:24,989 --> 01:00:27,155 I talked him into going horseback riding with me 1148 01:00:27,157 --> 01:00:28,790 'cause we weren't doing anything. 1149 01:00:28,792 --> 01:00:30,225 Finally went out there and I said, 1150 01:00:30,227 --> 01:00:33,095 "Listen, we go from the barn out to the field. 1151 01:00:33,097 --> 01:00:35,864 We gotta cross a paved road." 1152 01:00:35,866 --> 01:00:38,166 I said, "The horse is shod." He says, "What?" 1153 01:00:38,168 --> 01:00:40,035 "It's got shoes on, you know?" 1154 01:00:40,037 --> 01:00:42,938 And if he slips, he'll bust both of yous' butts, 1155 01:00:42,940 --> 01:00:45,240 "so don't give him any reigns." 1156 01:00:45,242 --> 01:00:46,942 And guess what happened? 1157 01:00:46,944 --> 01:00:49,678 And he hit right here. 1158 01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:51,346 He couldn't play. 1159 01:00:51,348 --> 01:00:53,782 And he wouldn't let me in his house for about six weeks. 1160 01:00:53,784 --> 01:00:55,517 And, I mean, that was... that was terrible 1161 01:00:55,519 --> 01:00:58,053 'cause, I mean, you know, growin' up without a father, 1162 01:00:58,055 --> 01:01:00,422 he was somewhat of a father figure to me 1163 01:01:00,424 --> 01:01:03,859 even though he was only a year and 18 days older. 1164 01:01:03,861 --> 01:01:06,428 So it came his birthday, November the 20th, 1165 01:01:06,430 --> 01:01:09,765 and I went out and bought the first Taj Mahal record 1166 01:01:09,767 --> 01:01:12,167 and a bottle of Coricidin pills. 1167 01:01:12,169 --> 01:01:15,070 He had this cold and he had his arm in a sling, 1168 01:01:15,072 --> 01:01:16,972 he was pissed off at the world, 1169 01:01:16,974 --> 01:01:19,241 and I did what I could do. 1170 01:01:19,243 --> 01:01:20,776 I put it down in front of his door, 1171 01:01:20,778 --> 01:01:22,210 I had it wrapped up and everything. 1172 01:01:22,212 --> 01:01:25,013 And I knocked on the door and ran. 1173 01:01:25,015 --> 01:01:25,515 ♪ 1174 01:01:31,422 --> 01:01:34,156 I guess about two and a half hours later 1175 01:01:34,158 --> 01:01:36,224 my phone rings and it's him. 1176 01:01:36,226 --> 01:01:40,028 He says, "Get over here, baybrah, quick!" 1177 01:01:40,030 --> 01:01:44,733 And baybrah, he called me that, "baby brother," 1178 01:01:44,735 --> 01:01:48,170 endearing handle he had for me. 1179 01:01:48,172 --> 01:01:50,639 ♪ 1180 01:01:50,641 --> 01:01:52,841 He said, "Man, check this out." 1181 01:01:52,843 --> 01:01:54,276 He had been listening to Jesse Ed Davis 1182 01:01:54,278 --> 01:01:57,479 play Taj Mahal and he's playing slide. 1183 01:01:57,481 --> 01:01:57,981 ♪ 1184 01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:05,954 He said, "Man, I dumped out all of them pills", 1185 01:02:05,956 --> 01:02:08,724 and I washed the label off the bottle." 1186 01:02:08,726 --> 01:02:10,125 He said, "Check this out." 1187 01:02:10,127 --> 01:02:11,393 And he's got his hand still in the sling 1188 01:02:11,395 --> 01:02:13,962 and he's going, "do-do-n-do", you know, 1189 01:02:13,964 --> 01:02:17,399 and he's just already killin' it, you know? 1190 01:02:17,401 --> 01:02:17,901 ♪ 1191 01:02:25,209 --> 01:02:30,112 I've still got that bottle, by the way, somehow. 1192 01:02:30,114 --> 01:02:31,913 When Duane came here, 1193 01:02:31,915 --> 01:02:35,517 he was on the Wilson Pickett session that we did. 1194 01:02:35,519 --> 01:02:38,820 There was always a slight problem when we would go out 1195 01:02:38,822 --> 01:02:41,056 all of us white boys with a black artist 1196 01:02:41,058 --> 01:02:44,860 that we would get looks, okay? 1197 01:02:44,862 --> 01:02:47,429 But there was nothin' as bad as going out 1198 01:02:47,431 --> 01:02:51,199 with a long-haired hippie with us white boys. 1199 01:02:51,201 --> 01:02:54,870 They couldn't stand that, right? 1200 01:02:54,872 --> 01:02:57,639 And so both of them stayed back. 1201 01:02:57,641 --> 01:02:59,040 So, they went on lunch break 1202 01:02:59,042 --> 01:03:02,144 and my brother went up to Wilson and he said, 1203 01:03:02,146 --> 01:03:04,813 "Man, why don't you cut 'Hey Jude, ' 1204 01:03:04,815 --> 01:03:06,414 you know, the Beatles song?" 1205 01:03:06,416 --> 01:03:09,484 And at that point I was mostly trying to create 1206 01:03:09,486 --> 01:03:12,420 an original career Wilson Pickett, right? 1207 01:03:12,422 --> 01:03:13,722 My songs. 1208 01:03:13,724 --> 01:03:15,690 Pickett and I, in unison, both said, 1209 01:03:15,692 --> 01:03:16,958 "Look, are you crazy? 1210 01:03:16,960 --> 01:03:19,895 We're gonna cover the Beatles?" 1211 01:03:19,897 --> 01:03:22,164 And of course Duane said, "Exactly." 1212 01:03:22,166 --> 01:03:25,634 While we were gone, Duane changed our whole session. 1213 01:03:25,636 --> 01:03:30,605 ♪ Just remember to let her under your skin ♪ 1214 01:03:30,607 --> 01:03:32,040 When you get to the vamp, 1215 01:03:32,042 --> 01:03:36,912 it goes into just an unbelievable groove. 1216 01:03:36,914 --> 01:03:38,880 ♪ Ow 1217 01:03:38,882 --> 01:03:40,248 ♪ Ah 1218 01:03:40,250 --> 01:03:42,784 ♪ Ahhh 1219 01:03:42,786 --> 01:03:45,887 ♪ Oh oh ooh 1220 01:03:45,889 --> 01:03:48,323 ♪ Hey Jude 1221 01:03:48,325 --> 01:03:50,225 ♪ Ahh 1222 01:03:50,227 --> 01:03:55,463 Duane Allman was playing such great guitar fields 1223 01:03:55,465 --> 01:03:59,534 that somethin' happened in that vamp. 1224 01:03:59,536 --> 01:04:02,337 ♪ Ahh hey 1225 01:04:02,339 --> 01:04:06,541 And all of a sudden, there was southern rock. 1226 01:04:06,543 --> 01:04:08,810 ♪ Gonna be all right 1227 01:04:08,812 --> 01:04:10,779 ♪ 1228 01:04:10,781 --> 01:04:14,416 That was the beginnings of The Allman Brothers Band. 1229 01:04:16,219 --> 01:04:18,687 Jaimoe met my brother first. 1230 01:04:18,689 --> 01:04:20,522 The two of them got together. 1231 01:04:20,524 --> 01:04:23,291 When I met Duane, he had a cabin he lived in 1232 01:04:23,293 --> 01:04:25,360 down on the river in Muscle Shoals. 1233 01:04:25,362 --> 01:04:29,731 And it was like... well, it was a nice place down there. 1234 01:04:29,733 --> 01:04:33,335 In his spare time, he would do a lot of fishin'. 1235 01:04:33,337 --> 01:04:35,370 Muscle Shoals seemed to be 1236 01:04:35,372 --> 01:04:38,740 the place for him to be at that time. 1237 01:04:38,742 --> 01:04:40,175 He would do sessions. 1238 01:04:40,177 --> 01:04:41,843 And I would sit over with them at practice. 1239 01:04:41,845 --> 01:04:43,278 And when he would get through the session, 1240 01:04:43,280 --> 01:04:45,780 he'd roll his amplifier over there 1241 01:04:45,782 --> 01:04:47,782 and the two of us would play. 1242 01:04:47,784 --> 01:04:52,320 And then when Berry Oakley came down, 1243 01:04:52,322 --> 01:04:57,759 boy, the three of us had never played music like that. 1244 01:04:57,761 --> 01:05:00,729 But that was pretty much the base of what turned out to be 1245 01:05:00,731 --> 01:05:02,530 The Allman Brothers Band. 1246 01:05:02,532 --> 01:05:03,032 ♪ 1247 01:05:07,437 --> 01:05:09,571 Duane said, "Well, Rick, this is the kind of music" 1248 01:05:09,573 --> 01:05:11,106 that's coming in, this is gonna be big again. 1249 01:05:11,108 --> 01:05:12,707 "The kids are really liking this stuff." 1250 01:05:12,709 --> 01:05:15,043 And I said, "Yeah, yeah, don't breathe on me, Duane", 1251 01:05:15,045 --> 01:05:16,511 back off." 1252 01:05:16,513 --> 01:05:17,013 ♪ 1253 01:05:20,951 --> 01:05:22,984 I never believed him and I told Phil Walden, 1254 01:05:22,986 --> 01:05:24,386 "I don't understand this." 1255 01:05:24,388 --> 01:05:26,087 They're sleeping in the studio all day 1256 01:05:26,089 --> 01:05:27,289 under quilts and things, 1257 01:05:27,291 --> 01:05:28,590 and I wake up Duane and he says, 1258 01:05:28,592 --> 01:05:31,026 "Man, you know, the stars and the moon 1259 01:05:31,028 --> 01:05:32,327 are not quite lined up right." 1260 01:05:32,329 --> 01:05:33,962 I'm not into all that. 1261 01:05:33,964 --> 01:05:35,697 He said, "Well, hang in there, man." 1262 01:05:35,699 --> 01:05:37,832 Turn on the machines and let 'em run 1263 01:05:37,834 --> 01:05:40,402 "and eventually you're gonna make a billion dollars." 1264 01:05:40,404 --> 01:05:43,405 ♪ 1265 01:05:43,407 --> 01:05:45,840 I said, "Ah, I can't do that, it's not me." 1266 01:05:45,842 --> 01:05:47,742 So I missed the boat on that one. 1267 01:05:47,744 --> 01:05:48,244 ♪ 1268 01:06:04,627 --> 01:06:05,127 ♪ 1269 01:06:09,967 --> 01:06:11,700 Time, old time. 1270 01:06:11,702 --> 01:06:12,202 ♪ 1271 01:06:17,174 --> 01:06:20,141 Things change it, you know. 1272 01:06:20,143 --> 01:06:23,178 I never will forget when Jimi Hendrix 1273 01:06:23,180 --> 01:06:27,015 played behind me on Broadway. 1274 01:06:27,017 --> 01:06:28,616 He was playing the band with King Curtis. 1275 01:06:28,618 --> 01:06:31,186 And I told King, "I think I'm gonna steal 1276 01:06:31,188 --> 01:06:33,221 that guitar player you got." 1277 01:06:33,223 --> 01:06:35,323 He said, "Percy Sledge, that guy there" 1278 01:06:35,325 --> 01:06:37,225 is gonna be so big in the next year or two," 1279 01:06:37,227 --> 01:06:38,660 he said, "I can't keep him" 1280 01:06:38,662 --> 01:06:41,229 and you won't be able to keep him either." 1281 01:06:41,231 --> 01:06:44,666 When Jimi came out with his style of music, 1282 01:06:44,668 --> 01:06:48,570 well, our style of music kind of slacked back. 1283 01:06:48,572 --> 01:06:52,474 ♪ 1284 01:06:52,476 --> 01:06:54,876 Time always changes organizations 1285 01:06:54,878 --> 01:06:57,379 and things that you're doin' in life. 1286 01:06:57,381 --> 01:06:57,881 ♪ 1287 01:07:03,687 --> 01:07:08,490 Things happened in our world that changed everything. 1288 01:07:08,492 --> 01:07:11,726 We decided to become entrepreneurs 1289 01:07:11,728 --> 01:07:13,862 and become studio owners. 1290 01:07:13,864 --> 01:07:15,663 So we had to tell Rick, 1291 01:07:15,665 --> 01:07:20,435 who was our mentor and friend and who had gave us our chance. 1292 01:07:20,437 --> 01:07:23,505 We elected Roger to go break the news to him. 1293 01:07:23,507 --> 01:07:28,109 I had gone to LA to try to make a new deal with Capitol Records. 1294 01:07:28,111 --> 01:07:30,912 We made a great deal and things were really exciting, 1295 01:07:30,914 --> 01:07:34,816 and I came back and had a meeting with the Swampers. 1296 01:07:34,818 --> 01:07:37,285 We were supposed to come up and sign the contract 1297 01:07:37,287 --> 01:07:39,054 and be exclusive to Rick. 1298 01:07:39,056 --> 01:07:40,655 Rick's office is upstairs 1299 01:07:40,657 --> 01:07:43,625 and we're just kind of looking at each other like, 1300 01:07:43,627 --> 01:07:46,961 "Oh, my God, we gotta go up those stairs." 1301 01:07:46,963 --> 01:07:48,263 ♪ 1302 01:07:48,265 --> 01:07:53,101 Up the stairs we go, knock on the door. 1303 01:07:53,103 --> 01:07:56,137 Everybody's quiet. 1304 01:07:56,139 --> 01:07:58,440 I began to tell them of this great new deal 1305 01:07:58,442 --> 01:08:00,108 we've made with Capitol. 1306 01:08:00,110 --> 01:08:03,044 I'm lookin' at them like, "Come on, guys, help me." 1307 01:08:03,046 --> 01:08:04,379 And they're just like... 1308 01:08:04,381 --> 01:08:06,448 One of the guys stopped me and said, 1309 01:08:06,450 --> 01:08:08,316 "We've already made a deal with Jerry Wexler" 1310 01:08:08,318 --> 01:08:12,487 and he is going to build us a studio across town. 1311 01:08:12,489 --> 01:08:15,590 "We'll be leaving here, going with him." 1312 01:08:15,592 --> 01:08:18,760 ♪ 1313 01:08:18,762 --> 01:08:22,163 And when Roger dropped that bomb in that office, 1314 01:08:22,165 --> 01:08:24,899 we were expecting a huge explosion. 1315 01:08:24,901 --> 01:08:26,534 ♪ 1316 01:08:26,536 --> 01:08:31,406 I felt like the whole bottom of my life had fell out. 1317 01:08:31,408 --> 01:08:35,176 It's like we have thrown shit on his dreams. 1318 01:08:35,178 --> 01:08:36,578 Do you remember what he said? 1319 01:08:36,580 --> 01:08:38,913 He said, "You're never gonna make it." 1320 01:08:38,915 --> 01:08:40,915 ♪ 1321 01:08:40,917 --> 01:08:43,551 It was war. 1322 01:08:43,553 --> 01:08:45,019 Total war. 1323 01:08:45,021 --> 01:08:46,921 ♪ 1324 01:08:46,923 --> 01:08:50,325 ♪ Oh ooh oh, baby 1325 01:08:50,327 --> 01:08:51,860 ♪ 1326 01:08:51,862 --> 01:08:54,696 ♪ There's gonna be judgment in the morning ♪ 1327 01:08:54,698 --> 01:08:57,699 When we bought the studio, we were very nervous 1328 01:08:57,701 --> 01:08:59,801 about whether or not we would have any hits. 1329 01:08:59,803 --> 01:09:02,604 And you have to have to hits to keep recording. 1330 01:09:02,606 --> 01:09:06,541 Jerry came to record at our place, and he brought Cher in, 1331 01:09:06,543 --> 01:09:08,643 and that was our first client. 1332 01:09:08,645 --> 01:09:11,513 Nothin' happened, it wasn't any good. 1333 01:09:11,515 --> 01:09:13,314 ♪ 1334 01:09:13,316 --> 01:09:15,283 Six months went by, seven months, 1335 01:09:15,285 --> 01:09:17,519 almost eight months. 1336 01:09:17,521 --> 01:09:21,556 I think we would have killed for the hit record. 1337 01:09:21,558 --> 01:09:24,392 We always wanted to own a studio and it was like, 1338 01:09:24,394 --> 01:09:26,928 "What the hell have we done?" 1339 01:09:26,930 --> 01:09:29,497 ♪ 1340 01:09:29,499 --> 01:09:32,867 And then all of a sudden the English rock and roll guys 1341 01:09:32,869 --> 01:09:35,170 started wantin' to come to Muscle Shoals. 1342 01:09:35,172 --> 01:09:36,604 When we went to record in Muscle Shoals, 1343 01:09:36,606 --> 01:09:38,573 it was a really lightning visit. 1344 01:09:38,575 --> 01:09:40,008 You know, we just went in there, set up, 1345 01:09:40,010 --> 01:09:43,711 and, you know, played our stuff for a couple of days. 1346 01:09:43,713 --> 01:09:47,315 The sound was in my head before I even got there. 1347 01:09:47,317 --> 01:09:48,716 And then, of course, 1348 01:09:48,718 --> 01:09:51,920 when that actually lives up to it and beyond, 1349 01:09:51,922 --> 01:09:55,957 you know, then you're in rock and roll heaven, man. 1350 01:09:55,959 --> 01:09:59,360 ♪ You got to move 1351 01:09:59,362 --> 01:10:03,164 ♪ You got to move 1352 01:10:03,166 --> 01:10:06,968 ♪ You got to move, child 1353 01:10:06,970 --> 01:10:09,604 ♪ You got to move 1354 01:10:09,606 --> 01:10:10,772 ♪ 1355 01:10:10,774 --> 01:10:17,545 ♪ Oh, when the Lord gets ready ♪ 1356 01:10:17,547 --> 01:10:20,281 ♪ You got to move 1357 01:10:20,283 --> 01:10:23,017 The first thing we did was a blues tune, 1358 01:10:23,019 --> 01:10:24,886 "You've Gotta Move." 1359 01:10:24,888 --> 01:10:27,755 We're down in Alabama, you know, in Muscle Shoals, 1360 01:10:27,757 --> 01:10:30,959 we've gotta cut some Fred McDowell stuff. 1361 01:10:30,961 --> 01:10:33,828 If ever I'm gonna do it, it's gotta be here, you know, 1362 01:10:33,830 --> 01:10:35,296 and we're probably soaking up 1363 01:10:35,298 --> 01:10:38,967 a little Indian maiden, too, you know? 1364 01:10:38,969 --> 01:10:42,203 ♪ Get ready 1365 01:10:42,205 --> 01:10:45,440 ♪ You got to move 1366 01:10:45,442 --> 01:10:47,942 We don't come from here, but we know quite a bit 1367 01:10:47,944 --> 01:10:50,211 about the deep south. 1368 01:10:50,213 --> 01:10:53,147 From here. 1369 01:10:53,149 --> 01:10:55,683 Their producer did not show. 1370 01:10:55,685 --> 01:10:57,986 And it wound up I became the engineer. 1371 01:10:57,988 --> 01:11:01,155 And I was thinkin', "Oh, man, can you believe this?" You know? 1372 01:11:01,157 --> 01:11:03,858 Because right when they come in, you know, you're... 1373 01:11:03,860 --> 01:11:06,127 Yeah, but that's there, it doesn't come in till the solo. 1374 01:11:06,129 --> 01:11:07,462 No, I know, I know. 1375 01:11:07,464 --> 01:11:09,464 But I must point something out here, 1376 01:11:09,466 --> 01:11:14,802 that nobody was drinkin' and nobody was druggin'. 1377 01:11:14,804 --> 01:11:17,472 Well... 1378 01:11:17,474 --> 01:11:20,708 ♪ You got to move 1379 01:11:24,280 --> 01:11:26,381 I think we were drinking quite a lot. 1380 01:11:26,383 --> 01:11:27,649 I'm sure there were lots of drinking 1381 01:11:27,651 --> 01:11:30,084 and smoking marijuana and so on. 1382 01:11:30,086 --> 01:11:31,452 Well, you know, I mean, 1383 01:11:31,454 --> 01:11:34,589 you put it on a scale of what, you know? 1384 01:11:34,591 --> 01:11:36,824 That was recording in those days, 1385 01:11:36,826 --> 01:11:38,126 that was part of it. 1386 01:11:38,128 --> 01:11:41,329 But otherwise it was a lot of serious work as well. 1387 01:11:41,331 --> 01:11:44,666 And once we knew the room was tuned to us 1388 01:11:44,668 --> 01:11:47,835 and we were tuned to the room, then it became, you know, 1389 01:11:47,837 --> 01:11:51,039 "Right, let's get as much done here as we possibly can," 1390 01:11:51,041 --> 01:11:52,140 you know? 1391 01:11:52,142 --> 01:11:53,441 ♪ 1392 01:11:53,443 --> 01:11:54,909 Keith had this tune "Wild Horses," 1393 01:11:54,911 --> 01:11:56,744 but I don't think that was really finished. 1394 01:11:56,746 --> 01:11:59,147 He had the chorus, but that was about it. 1395 01:11:59,149 --> 01:12:00,948 So that was all written on the spot. 1396 01:12:00,950 --> 01:12:02,283 It was just an idea 1397 01:12:02,285 --> 01:12:05,620 and it had to go to the bathroom for a little while 1398 01:12:05,622 --> 01:12:07,722 just to sort of figure it out. 1399 01:12:07,724 --> 01:12:09,691 And then say, "Okay, I'm ready," 1400 01:12:09,693 --> 01:12:12,560 back in, and then take, you know? 1401 01:12:12,562 --> 01:12:17,799 ♪ Childhood living 1402 01:12:20,469 --> 01:12:25,606 ♪ Is easy to do 1403 01:12:27,776 --> 01:12:33,815 ♪ The things you wanted 1404 01:12:33,817 --> 01:12:37,385 Muscle Shoals Studio is in this rather interesting place. 1405 01:12:37,387 --> 01:12:41,489 Being there does inspire you to do it slightly differently. 1406 01:12:41,491 --> 01:12:44,025 "Wild Horses" is a sort of country song, 1407 01:12:44,027 --> 01:12:46,327 and I remember we used Jim Dickinson, 1408 01:12:46,329 --> 01:12:48,629 he played tack piano. 1409 01:12:48,631 --> 01:12:53,101 ♪ A sin and a lie 1410 01:12:55,371 --> 01:12:59,974 ♪ I have my freedom 1411 01:13:01,810 --> 01:13:06,047 ♪ But I don't have much time ♪ 1412 01:13:08,384 --> 01:13:14,389 ♪ Wild horses 1413 01:13:14,391 --> 01:13:18,993 ♪ Couldn't drag me away 1414 01:13:21,163 --> 01:13:26,968 ♪ Wild, wild horses 1415 01:13:26,970 --> 01:13:32,407 ♪ We'll ride them someday 1416 01:13:41,083 --> 01:13:43,184 I thought it was one of the easiest 1417 01:13:43,186 --> 01:13:46,187 and rockingest sessions that we'd ever done. 1418 01:13:46,189 --> 01:13:49,857 I don't think we'd been quite so prolific ever. 1419 01:13:49,859 --> 01:13:52,193 I mean, we cut three or four tracks in two days, 1420 01:13:52,195 --> 01:13:56,164 and that, for the Stones, is going some... 1421 01:14:00,869 --> 01:14:03,905 We left on a high with "Brown Sugar." 1422 01:14:03,907 --> 01:14:07,942 We knew we had one of the best things we'd ever done. 1423 01:14:07,944 --> 01:14:09,744 The thing about "Brown Sugar," it had this sound, 1424 01:14:09,746 --> 01:14:11,546 it was quite distorted. 1425 01:14:11,548 --> 01:14:13,014 It was pretty funky, you know. 1426 01:14:13,016 --> 01:14:17,618 That was the whole idea of it. 1427 01:14:17,620 --> 01:14:20,788 I always wanted to go back there and cut more, 1428 01:14:20,790 --> 01:14:22,990 then shit happened, so we ended up in France 1429 01:14:22,992 --> 01:14:25,159 in a basement doing "Exile on Main St." there, 1430 01:14:25,161 --> 01:14:28,062 but otherwise, "Exile" would probably have been cut 1431 01:14:28,064 --> 01:14:29,464 in Muscle Shoals, 1432 01:14:29,466 --> 01:14:31,032 but politically, it wasn't possible. 1433 01:14:31,034 --> 01:14:33,401 I wasn't allowed in the country at the time. 1434 01:14:33,403 --> 01:14:36,537 So, there's that, you know. 1435 01:14:36,539 --> 01:14:38,239 ♪ Brown sugar 1436 01:14:38,241 --> 01:14:44,111 ♪ How come you taste so good ♪ 1437 01:14:44,113 --> 01:14:45,680 ♪ Brown sugar 1438 01:14:45,682 --> 01:14:48,416 ♪ Just like a young girl should ♪ 1439 01:14:48,418 --> 01:14:51,118 Those sessions were as vital to me 1440 01:14:51,120 --> 01:14:53,488 as any I ever done. 1441 01:14:53,490 --> 01:14:55,857 I mean, all this other stuff, 1442 01:14:55,859 --> 01:14:59,060 "Beggars Banquet" and the other stuff we did, 1443 01:14:59,062 --> 01:15:01,696 "Gimme Shelter," "Street Fighting Man," 1444 01:15:01,698 --> 01:15:03,798 "Jumpin' Jack Flash," you know, 1445 01:15:03,800 --> 01:15:07,101 but I've always wondered 1446 01:15:07,103 --> 01:15:09,036 that if we'd have cut them in Muscle Shoals, 1447 01:15:09,038 --> 01:15:11,472 if they might not have been a little bit funkier. 1448 01:15:11,474 --> 01:15:11,974 ♪ 1449 01:15:18,948 --> 01:15:22,517 ♪ Drums beatin', cold English blood runs hot ♪ 1450 01:15:22,519 --> 01:15:26,387 ♪ Lady of the house wonderin' where it's gonna stop ♪ 1451 01:15:26,389 --> 01:15:30,091 ♪ House boy knows that he's doing all right ♪ 1452 01:15:30,093 --> 01:15:34,729 ♪ You shoulda heard him just around midnight ♪ 1453 01:15:47,209 --> 01:15:50,177 So, I got this great new deal with Capitol Records, 1454 01:15:50,179 --> 01:15:51,779 but I've had this feud with Wexler, 1455 01:15:51,781 --> 01:15:53,814 and he's taking my musicians 1456 01:15:53,816 --> 01:15:55,783 and going across town and going to put me 1457 01:15:55,785 --> 01:15:57,952 out of business, so he says. 1458 01:15:57,954 --> 01:15:59,754 I imagine Rick was pissed. 1459 01:15:59,756 --> 01:16:01,556 Hey, I got this deal, 1460 01:16:01,558 --> 01:16:04,125 and I don't have a rhythm section. 1461 01:16:04,127 --> 01:16:06,861 But if Jerry thinks these are the only guys 1462 01:16:06,863 --> 01:16:08,696 left in the world that you can cut hit records on, 1463 01:16:08,698 --> 01:16:10,464 then he's mistaken because I believed 1464 01:16:10,466 --> 01:16:16,203 that I could cut hit records with any group of musicians. 1465 01:16:16,205 --> 01:16:18,806 We began to call every musician we knew 1466 01:16:18,808 --> 01:16:21,342 and put them under contract. 1467 01:16:25,213 --> 01:16:27,949 So, that's why he calls me, get me up there real quick, 1468 01:16:27,951 --> 01:16:29,317 and he said, "Do you know a bass player?" 1469 01:16:29,319 --> 01:16:31,652 I said, "I know a great bass player." 1470 01:16:31,654 --> 01:16:33,120 So, I started playing, and he said, 1471 01:16:33,122 --> 01:16:35,590 "Do you know of any other rhythm guys?" 1472 01:16:35,592 --> 01:16:38,326 I said, "Yeah, Freeman Brown," 1473 01:16:38,328 --> 01:16:40,861 who became one of the best fat back drummers 1474 01:16:40,863 --> 01:16:44,699 for Muscle Shoals. 1475 01:16:44,701 --> 01:16:46,834 He said, "And I also need a horn section," 1476 01:16:46,836 --> 01:16:48,402 and I said, "Yeah, there's some guys" 1477 01:16:48,404 --> 01:16:51,105 that I met out of Nashville." 1478 01:16:51,107 --> 01:16:53,608 Rick Hall wanted to put a band together 1479 01:16:53,610 --> 01:16:55,109 and called it the "Fame Gang," 1480 01:16:55,111 --> 01:16:59,146 and I ended up being part of that. 1481 01:16:59,148 --> 01:17:02,116 For me to surround myself with the strongest people I could 1482 01:17:02,118 --> 01:17:05,219 made me a better producer. 1483 01:17:05,221 --> 01:17:07,888 Now, here's what we're going to do, we're going to let him 1484 01:17:07,890 --> 01:17:09,724 play back the tape four or five times 1485 01:17:09,726 --> 01:17:11,626 in succession, I want to work with the horns. 1486 01:17:11,628 --> 01:17:14,295 This is a sad song, 1487 01:17:14,297 --> 01:17:17,832 you know, so don't jazz it up too much... 1488 01:17:17,834 --> 01:17:19,133 and take away from the lyrics 1489 01:17:19,135 --> 01:17:21,135 so it sounds like a dance record. 1490 01:17:21,137 --> 01:17:22,937 The truth is after Barry Beckett 1491 01:17:22,939 --> 01:17:24,739 and Jimmy Johnson, Roger Hawkins, David Hood 1492 01:17:24,741 --> 01:17:26,173 left and bought their own studio, 1493 01:17:26,175 --> 01:17:28,142 we come in here with this new rhythm section 1494 01:17:28,144 --> 01:17:30,578 who was not a real studio band yet, 1495 01:17:30,580 --> 01:17:33,447 but 1971, Rick Hall's the producer of the year. 1496 01:17:33,449 --> 01:17:35,616 He didn't have that with the other guys. 1497 01:17:35,618 --> 01:17:36,951 I started over again, 1498 01:17:36,953 --> 01:17:38,986 and I believed I was as good as anybody. 1499 01:17:38,988 --> 01:17:40,588 Here's Candi Staton 1500 01:17:40,590 --> 01:17:43,024 to sing her big, big hit on FAME. 1501 01:17:43,026 --> 01:17:45,993 At FAME, we experienced a lot of great artists, 1502 01:17:45,995 --> 01:17:49,997 starting with Candi Staton. 1503 01:17:49,999 --> 01:17:51,332 We started to explode. 1504 01:17:51,334 --> 01:17:53,601 The world was coming to Muscle Shoals. 1505 01:17:53,603 --> 01:17:55,603 ♪ You may think I'm silly ♪ 1506 01:17:55,605 --> 01:17:58,039 ♪ To love a man twice my age ♪ 1507 01:17:58,041 --> 01:18:00,775 ♪ But I know from experience, girls ♪ 1508 01:18:00,777 --> 01:18:02,143 ♪ Sometime, it pays 1509 01:18:02,145 --> 01:18:04,745 I did Bobbie Gentry for Capitol Records, 1510 01:18:04,747 --> 01:18:07,715 I did King Curtis, I did Lou Rawls. 1511 01:18:07,717 --> 01:18:09,817 Little Richard, Willie Hightower, 1512 01:18:09,819 --> 01:18:11,686 Mac Davis, Joe Tex. 1513 01:18:11,688 --> 01:18:14,989 ♪ I'd rather be an old man's sweetheart ♪ 1514 01:18:14,991 --> 01:18:17,525 ♪ Than to be a young man's fool ♪ 1515 01:18:17,527 --> 01:18:19,760 And we cut all those records when Donny Osmond, 1516 01:18:19,762 --> 01:18:21,862 the Osmond Brothers, in 1971, 1517 01:18:21,864 --> 01:18:23,197 I think they sold something in the neighborhood 1518 01:18:23,199 --> 01:18:25,499 of 23 million records in one year. 1519 01:18:25,501 --> 01:18:27,535 Joe Simon, the group Alabama, 1520 01:18:27,537 --> 01:18:29,870 Paul Anka, and Tom Jones. 1521 01:18:29,872 --> 01:18:33,074 Clarence Carter, Wilson Pickett, Bobby Womack. 1522 01:18:33,076 --> 01:18:34,742 I had one of the biggest record companies 1523 01:18:34,744 --> 01:18:36,010 in the world behind me, 1524 01:18:36,012 --> 01:18:38,212 I was getting twice the quality rate 1525 01:18:38,214 --> 01:18:42,683 that I was getting from Atlantic and Chess. 1526 01:18:42,685 --> 01:18:45,953 So I was shitting in high cotton. 1527 01:18:45,955 --> 01:18:49,090 ♪ I'd rather be an old man's sweetheart ♪ 1528 01:18:49,092 --> 01:18:52,426 ♪ Than to be a young man's fool ♪ 1529 01:18:52,428 --> 01:18:53,928 ♪ Don't want to be your fool ♪ 1530 01:18:53,930 --> 01:18:56,430 We were forming a production company 1531 01:18:56,432 --> 01:18:59,400 in about '69 or '70, 1532 01:18:59,402 --> 01:19:01,936 and our friend, Alan Walden, 1533 01:19:01,938 --> 01:19:05,539 found this band in Jacksonville called Lynyrd Skynyrd. 1534 01:19:05,541 --> 01:19:10,411 I was a sucker to want to cut that band immediately, 1535 01:19:10,413 --> 01:19:12,213 so we signed them. 1536 01:19:12,215 --> 01:19:14,582 When I first joined Lynyrd Skynyrd, 1537 01:19:14,584 --> 01:19:17,485 Ronnie had always talked about the guys in Muscle Shoals. 1538 01:19:17,487 --> 01:19:20,354 Apparently they had gone up there and recorded 1539 01:19:20,356 --> 01:19:24,391 an entire album with Jimmy Johnson producing. 1540 01:19:24,393 --> 01:19:26,293 They had no money, 1541 01:19:26,295 --> 01:19:28,329 and I remember they would come up here 1542 01:19:28,331 --> 01:19:30,664 and they'd check in a truck stop 1543 01:19:30,666 --> 01:19:33,134 where they'd get in fights with the truckers 1544 01:19:33,136 --> 01:19:36,070 'cause their long hair, and basically, 1545 01:19:36,072 --> 01:19:39,440 all they had to eat was peanut butter sandwiches 1546 01:19:39,442 --> 01:19:41,909 the whole time, 1547 01:19:41,911 --> 01:19:44,345 but I loved this band. 1548 01:19:44,347 --> 01:19:46,013 I didn't know if it'd be a hit, 1549 01:19:46,015 --> 01:19:47,114 but I'll tell you one thing, 1550 01:19:47,116 --> 01:19:49,350 if you listen to those songs, 1551 01:19:49,352 --> 01:19:51,585 some of the best rock and roll songs 1552 01:19:51,587 --> 01:19:53,687 I've ever heard, 1553 01:19:53,689 --> 01:19:55,923 especially one. 1554 01:19:58,093 --> 01:20:00,628 At the time we were cutting "Free Bird," 1555 01:20:00,630 --> 01:20:02,263 we took a little lunch break, 1556 01:20:02,265 --> 01:20:06,267 we walk in, the engineer had started playing the tape. 1557 01:20:06,269 --> 01:20:08,502 Billy Powell, who's the roadie, 1558 01:20:08,504 --> 01:20:11,872 he was sitting there playing this concert piano 1559 01:20:11,874 --> 01:20:13,774 that was so unbelievable 1560 01:20:13,776 --> 01:20:17,578 that we walked in just in, like... awe, 1561 01:20:17,580 --> 01:20:20,247 with our mouth open. 1562 01:20:20,249 --> 01:20:22,149 And I look at Ronnie and he looks at me, 1563 01:20:22,151 --> 01:20:24,218 and I say, "I gotta go and record with that." 1564 01:20:24,220 --> 01:20:25,319 I don't know about you." 1565 01:20:25,321 --> 01:20:26,921 And he said, "You got it." 1566 01:20:26,923 --> 01:20:29,456 We put him on the record, and then he became 1567 01:20:29,458 --> 01:20:32,259 a band member within a few months. 1568 01:20:32,261 --> 01:20:34,728 He was a concert pianist, 1569 01:20:34,730 --> 01:20:38,032 and nobody knew it, not anybody. 1570 01:20:41,536 --> 01:20:43,704 I think he thought they wouldn't like that, 1571 01:20:43,706 --> 01:20:46,040 you know, that he had studied, 1572 01:20:46,042 --> 01:20:50,044 but what a great thing he added to their records. 1573 01:20:55,517 --> 01:20:58,152 But there was something different about this band. 1574 01:20:58,154 --> 01:21:02,389 I mean, on this album, I had a nine-minute single, 1575 01:21:02,391 --> 01:21:05,192 and I'm gonna go and try to sell it to a record company 1576 01:21:05,194 --> 01:21:08,829 that's never had a single over three and a half minutes. 1577 01:21:08,831 --> 01:21:10,764 I mean, I got problems. 1578 01:21:10,766 --> 01:21:15,402 ♪ If I leave here tomorrow ♪ 1579 01:21:18,273 --> 01:21:22,142 ♪ Would you still remember me ♪ 1580 01:21:22,144 --> 01:21:24,245 But there started to be a lot of interest, 1581 01:21:24,247 --> 01:21:26,780 and they said, "We want you to cut it down 1582 01:21:26,782 --> 01:21:28,382 to 3:45 on this one." 1583 01:21:28,384 --> 01:21:30,751 I said, "Nope, can't do it." 1584 01:21:30,753 --> 01:21:33,220 And I knew that if I did that, 1585 01:21:33,222 --> 01:21:36,090 I'd destroy the integrity of the band. 1586 01:21:36,092 --> 01:21:38,459 I said, "Go listen to 'em live", 1587 01:21:38,461 --> 01:21:41,996 and then you'll know what to do." 1588 01:21:41,998 --> 01:21:47,201 ♪ If I stay here with you now ♪ 1589 01:21:49,938 --> 01:21:53,007 ♪ Things just couldn't be the same ♪ 1590 01:21:53,009 --> 01:21:56,210 Not one A&R department would go listen to 'em, 1591 01:21:56,212 --> 01:22:00,481 so it wound up, I lost a band. 1592 01:22:00,483 --> 01:22:00,983 ♪ 1593 01:22:08,190 --> 01:22:11,158 And here, I had all these great cuts, 1594 01:22:11,160 --> 01:22:13,761 I cut the first "Free Bird," "Simple Man," 1595 01:22:13,763 --> 01:22:16,597 I mean, all this stuff, you know? 1596 01:22:19,267 --> 01:22:22,436 And I wasted almost two years of my life, 1597 01:22:22,438 --> 01:22:25,205 and it's very depressing for me, 1598 01:22:25,207 --> 01:22:28,909 and I'm sure it was for them. 1599 01:22:28,911 --> 01:22:33,981 ♪ And this bird you cannot change ♪ 1600 01:22:33,983 --> 01:22:35,983 ♪ Oh 1601 01:22:35,985 --> 01:22:37,885 But the Skynyrd boys had one thing 1602 01:22:37,887 --> 01:22:39,954 in their favor going for them: 1603 01:22:39,956 --> 01:22:42,156 that guy, Alan Walden, that I talked to about, 1604 01:22:42,158 --> 01:22:44,992 he got 'em on a Who tour. 1605 01:22:44,994 --> 01:22:46,660 World tour with The Who. 1606 01:22:46,662 --> 01:22:49,096 When they came off of that Who tour, 1607 01:22:49,098 --> 01:22:52,166 they were a hit band. 1608 01:22:52,168 --> 01:22:57,104 ♪ Lord, I can't change 1609 01:22:57,106 --> 01:23:00,874 ♪ Won't you fly high 1610 01:23:00,876 --> 01:23:04,511 ♪ Free bird, yeah 1611 01:23:04,513 --> 01:23:05,013 ♪ 1612 01:23:14,623 --> 01:23:15,123 ♪ 1613 01:23:51,326 --> 01:23:53,660 And then the crash happened. 1614 01:24:00,502 --> 01:24:04,605 And Gary and Allen got well enough from the crash, 1615 01:24:04,607 --> 01:24:07,341 they come to me and say, "We want 11 songs 1616 01:24:07,343 --> 01:24:10,611 of your 17 to be the next album," 1617 01:24:10,613 --> 01:24:13,580 and it was called, "First and... Last." 1618 01:24:39,674 --> 01:24:43,343 My father raised me, he cooked the meals, 1619 01:24:43,345 --> 01:24:45,479 he got us off to school. 1620 01:24:45,481 --> 01:24:47,347 I spent hours and hours 1621 01:24:47,349 --> 01:24:49,483 in the woods with him cutting timber. 1622 01:24:49,485 --> 01:24:51,351 He preached to me constantly, 1623 01:24:51,353 --> 01:24:53,153 "You got to be the best at whatever you do," 1624 01:24:53,155 --> 01:24:54,755 and good is not good enough, 1625 01:24:54,757 --> 01:24:56,523 you've got to be the best in the world, 1626 01:24:56,525 --> 01:24:59,259 "not just the best in this county." 1627 01:24:59,261 --> 01:25:02,029 He had worked hard, and I'd worked hard 1628 01:25:02,031 --> 01:25:03,430 with him all of our lives, 1629 01:25:03,432 --> 01:25:05,265 and so I wanted to do something 1630 01:25:05,267 --> 01:25:06,834 to make life easier for him, 1631 01:25:06,836 --> 01:25:12,106 so I bought him a new John Deere tractor. 1632 01:25:12,108 --> 01:25:14,308 He'd always wanted a tractor. 1633 01:25:14,310 --> 01:25:17,044 We never could afford a tractor. 1634 01:25:17,046 --> 01:25:17,546 ♪ 1635 01:25:24,620 --> 01:25:26,286 During this time, 1636 01:25:26,288 --> 01:25:28,522 my dad was plying on the little tractor 1637 01:25:28,524 --> 01:25:31,625 about a quarter of a mile from our house. 1638 01:25:31,627 --> 01:25:34,761 My stepmother went out to look for my father, 1639 01:25:34,763 --> 01:25:38,198 and she saw the tractor wheels turned up in the air, 1640 01:25:38,200 --> 01:25:40,601 and she knew something bad had happened. 1641 01:25:40,603 --> 01:25:42,669 He was pinned under the tractor. 1642 01:25:42,671 --> 01:25:46,206 He had tried to get away and had pawed in the ground 1643 01:25:46,208 --> 01:25:48,876 trying to free himself. 1644 01:25:48,878 --> 01:25:50,944 Of course, after his death, 1645 01:25:50,946 --> 01:25:53,213 I went into a deep stupor. 1646 01:25:53,215 --> 01:25:56,416 I mean, it's just overwhelming. 1647 01:25:58,119 --> 01:26:01,488 I was playing in Texas, 1648 01:26:01,490 --> 01:26:03,757 and Rick Hall called me and told me 1649 01:26:03,759 --> 01:26:06,827 he had a song he wanted me to come up there and do. 1650 01:26:06,829 --> 01:26:09,897 ♪ I was born and raised down in Alabama ♪ 1651 01:26:09,899 --> 01:26:12,432 ♪ On a farm way back up in the woods ♪ 1652 01:26:12,434 --> 01:26:15,169 ♪ I was so ragged that folks used to call me Patches ♪ 1653 01:26:15,171 --> 01:26:16,670 ♪ Papa used to tease me about it ♪ 1654 01:26:16,672 --> 01:26:18,372 ♪ Of course, deep down inside, he was hurt ♪ 1655 01:26:18,374 --> 01:26:20,941 ♪ 'Cause he'd done all he could ♪ 1656 01:26:20,943 --> 01:26:22,943 When Rick played the song to me, 1657 01:26:22,945 --> 01:26:25,612 I said, "We're going the wrong direction." 1658 01:26:25,614 --> 01:26:27,414 He didn't like the song 1659 01:26:27,416 --> 01:26:29,316 because he thought it was a downer 1660 01:26:29,318 --> 01:26:31,385 for his people, the black people. 1661 01:26:31,387 --> 01:26:33,854 ♪ My papa was a great old man ♪ 1662 01:26:33,856 --> 01:26:35,355 "My papa was a great old man," 1663 01:26:35,357 --> 01:26:38,692 I can see him with a shovel in his hand. 1664 01:26:38,694 --> 01:26:40,794 Education he never had, 1665 01:26:40,796 --> 01:26:43,030 "but he did wonders when times got bad." 1666 01:26:43,032 --> 01:26:45,265 ♪ The little money from the crops he raised ♪ 1667 01:26:45,267 --> 01:26:48,402 And it was my story about me and my father. 1668 01:26:48,404 --> 01:26:51,405 ♪ Oh, life had kicked him down to the ground ♪ 1669 01:26:51,407 --> 01:26:54,308 ♪ When he tried to get up, life would kick him back down ♪ 1670 01:26:54,310 --> 01:26:57,077 ♪ One day Papa called me to his dying bed ♪ 1671 01:26:57,079 --> 01:26:59,913 ♪ Put his hands on my shoulders and in tears he said ♪ 1672 01:26:59,915 --> 01:27:04,585 ♪ He said, Patches, I'm depending on you, son ♪ 1673 01:27:04,587 --> 01:27:07,521 ♪ To pull the family through ♪ 1674 01:27:07,523 --> 01:27:12,626 ♪ My son, it's all left up to you ♪ 1675 01:27:16,297 --> 01:27:17,831 All the things went through my mind 1676 01:27:17,833 --> 01:27:21,535 of how he killed himself working for his son 1677 01:27:21,537 --> 01:27:23,704 and had lived vicariously through me 1678 01:27:23,706 --> 01:27:25,205 thinking, "I couldn't make it", 1679 01:27:25,207 --> 01:27:26,974 but maybe my son, Rick, can make it." 1680 01:27:26,976 --> 01:27:30,077 ♪ Sometimes I felt that I couldn't go on ♪ 1681 01:27:30,079 --> 01:27:32,879 ♪ I wanted to leave, just run away from home ♪ 1682 01:27:32,881 --> 01:27:36,216 ♪ But I would remember what my daddy said ♪ 1683 01:27:36,218 --> 01:27:39,620 ♪ With tears in his eyes on his dying bed ♪ 1684 01:27:39,622 --> 01:27:42,222 So, I was so taken by the story 1685 01:27:42,224 --> 01:27:45,559 that I wanted to do a special production on it with strings, 1686 01:27:45,561 --> 01:27:48,528 and I wanted to go to L.A. and do it, and I did. 1687 01:27:48,530 --> 01:27:51,632 ♪ ...To do the rest 1688 01:27:51,634 --> 01:27:55,736 I was a believer in Rick Hall knowing what to do, 1689 01:27:55,738 --> 01:27:58,038 and if he said that was a good song, 1690 01:27:58,040 --> 01:28:00,207 okay, let's sing the song. 1691 01:28:00,209 --> 01:28:04,411 ♪ Patches, I'm depending on you, son ♪ 1692 01:28:04,413 --> 01:28:08,048 ♪ To pull the family through ♪ 1693 01:28:08,050 --> 01:28:09,349 When it came out, 1694 01:28:09,351 --> 01:28:12,286 it was going up the charts in a hurry. 1695 01:28:12,288 --> 01:28:15,255 That was a number one record. 1696 01:28:15,257 --> 01:28:19,359 ♪ Patches, I'm depending on you, son ♪ 1697 01:28:19,361 --> 01:28:22,429 ♪ I tried to do my best ♪ 1698 01:28:22,431 --> 01:28:26,033 ♪ It's up to you to do the rest ♪ 1699 01:28:26,035 --> 01:28:26,535 ♪ 1700 01:28:36,211 --> 01:28:37,444 The artists who come here, 1701 01:28:37,446 --> 01:28:39,980 they come to get away from it all. 1702 01:28:39,982 --> 01:28:42,482 They can rest, 1703 01:28:42,484 --> 01:28:44,618 stay away from the telephone, 1704 01:28:44,620 --> 01:28:47,587 hustle and bustle, and people bugging them 1705 01:28:47,589 --> 01:28:49,856 regarding autographs or what have you. 1706 01:28:49,858 --> 01:28:54,995 Nobody knows them here, in other words. 1707 01:28:54,997 --> 01:28:57,030 People like to go to places 1708 01:28:57,032 --> 01:29:02,135 that had a kind of magical kind of vibe about them, 1709 01:29:02,137 --> 01:29:03,904 but they also liked to get out of New York 1710 01:29:03,906 --> 01:29:06,006 or out of L.A. or out of London sometimes 1711 01:29:06,008 --> 01:29:08,575 to do these sessions. 1712 01:29:11,412 --> 01:29:13,080 I mean, that was really the first of its kind 1713 01:29:13,082 --> 01:29:15,382 that attracted music people from all over the world. 1714 01:29:15,384 --> 01:29:17,551 Sure, people go to New York to record. 1715 01:29:17,553 --> 01:29:18,819 You know, big deal. 1716 01:29:18,821 --> 01:29:20,454 You know, go to Muscle Shoals where 1717 01:29:20,456 --> 01:29:22,055 you can actually get lunch at a meat and three 1718 01:29:22,057 --> 01:29:24,491 and really experience the Southern way of life. 1719 01:29:24,493 --> 01:29:27,661 I mean, there's nothing like it. 1720 01:29:30,431 --> 01:29:31,898 When I went to Muscle Shoals to record, 1721 01:29:31,900 --> 01:29:35,302 for me, it was more like going to my village 1722 01:29:35,304 --> 01:29:37,871 in Somerton in Jamaica. 1723 01:29:37,873 --> 01:29:41,675 I did actually feel I'm at home. 1724 01:29:41,677 --> 01:29:45,479 ♪ Sitting here in limbo ♪ 1725 01:29:45,481 --> 01:29:48,315 ♪ But I know it won't be long ♪ 1726 01:29:48,317 --> 01:29:52,085 Jimmy had a very definite Jamaican songwriting style, 1727 01:29:52,087 --> 01:29:53,820 and this was pre-Bob Marley, 1728 01:29:53,822 --> 01:29:58,191 so nobody was really hip to the Jamaican sound that much. 1729 01:29:58,193 --> 01:29:59,493 Here I am, going there 1730 01:29:59,495 --> 01:30:01,995 with a different brand of feeling, 1731 01:30:01,997 --> 01:30:05,298 and they were readily adaptable to it. 1732 01:30:05,300 --> 01:30:06,767 When an artist would come in, 1733 01:30:06,769 --> 01:30:08,735 what our job was to us 1734 01:30:08,737 --> 01:30:11,238 is to become their band. 1735 01:30:11,240 --> 01:30:13,774 They were able to change who they were 1736 01:30:13,776 --> 01:30:16,343 depending on the artist that walked in the door. 1737 01:30:16,345 --> 01:30:18,645 That was the true genius of it. 1738 01:30:18,647 --> 01:30:21,581 ♪ I can't say what life will show me ♪ 1739 01:30:21,583 --> 01:30:24,551 ♪ But I know what I've seen ♪ 1740 01:30:24,553 --> 01:30:27,454 ♪ I can't say where life will leave me ♪ 1741 01:30:27,456 --> 01:30:30,457 ♪ But I know where I've been ♪ 1742 01:30:30,459 --> 01:30:33,393 ♪ Tried my hand at love and friendship ♪ 1743 01:30:33,395 --> 01:30:37,097 ♪ But all that is past and gone ♪ 1744 01:30:37,099 --> 01:30:43,036 ♪ This little boy is moving on ♪ 1745 01:30:43,038 --> 01:30:45,205 The song, "Sitting in Limbo," 1746 01:30:45,207 --> 01:30:48,542 was such a fresh piece of music 1747 01:30:48,544 --> 01:30:50,744 that you couldn't help but notice it. 1748 01:30:50,746 --> 01:30:53,013 ♪ Sitting in limbo 1749 01:30:53,015 --> 01:30:55,649 And so, definitely the Swampers, 1750 01:30:55,651 --> 01:30:58,518 all white guys, played their role 1751 01:30:58,520 --> 01:31:02,155 in bringing reggae to the forefront of the public. 1752 01:31:02,157 --> 01:31:05,625 ♪ Sitting in limbo, limbo, limbo ♪ 1753 01:31:05,627 --> 01:31:07,427 It was after those sessions 1754 01:31:07,429 --> 01:31:09,563 that Chris Blackwell had the idea 1755 01:31:09,565 --> 01:31:13,033 to link them up with Steve Winwood. 1756 01:31:13,035 --> 01:31:15,569 When we were going through our formative years, 1757 01:31:15,571 --> 01:31:18,705 I started hearing this Southern soul music, 1758 01:31:18,707 --> 01:31:22,309 and of course, I didn't really have any concept 1759 01:31:22,311 --> 01:31:26,179 of Muscle Shoals or the musicians 1760 01:31:26,181 --> 01:31:27,981 or their background 1761 01:31:27,983 --> 01:31:30,083 when I was first hearing this music, 1762 01:31:30,085 --> 01:31:34,254 I just knew that the music had something very special for me, 1763 01:31:34,256 --> 01:31:36,690 so when we actually got to work with them, 1764 01:31:36,692 --> 01:31:39,459 it was an amazing experience for us. 1765 01:31:39,461 --> 01:31:44,898 ♪ Sometimes I feel so uninspired ♪ 1766 01:31:44,900 --> 01:31:47,801 Recording with Traffic was a very strange thing. 1767 01:31:47,803 --> 01:31:51,104 It was... to me, it was strange. 1768 01:31:51,106 --> 01:31:55,542 Of course, Traffic weren't a mainstream band at all. 1769 01:31:55,544 --> 01:31:58,278 We would try and take elements 1770 01:31:58,280 --> 01:32:02,749 of rock, jazz, folk music, 1771 01:32:02,751 --> 01:32:05,218 all sorts of different ethnic music. 1772 01:32:05,220 --> 01:32:10,690 Our own particular name for it was Headless Horseman music. 1773 01:32:10,692 --> 01:32:14,094 ♪ But don't let it get you down ♪ 1774 01:32:14,096 --> 01:32:18,732 They didn't go about recording the way that we were used to. 1775 01:32:18,734 --> 01:32:21,801 At that time, I was trying to be real precise. 1776 01:32:21,803 --> 01:32:23,703 Traffic was the exact opposite. 1777 01:32:23,705 --> 01:32:25,238 It sounds terrible, let's play it anyway. 1778 01:32:25,240 --> 01:32:27,674 It might not ever sound good, but let's play it. 1779 01:32:27,676 --> 01:32:31,578 It wasn't an immediate, easy marriage. 1780 01:32:31,580 --> 01:32:33,079 But as time went on, I started, 1781 01:32:33,081 --> 01:32:35,715 I guess you might say, opening up a little bit. 1782 01:32:35,717 --> 01:32:39,619 I was forced to learn how to jam again. 1783 01:32:44,025 --> 01:32:47,594 The song that stands out for me off that album 1784 01:32:47,596 --> 01:32:50,196 is "(Sometimes I Feel So) Uninspired." 1785 01:32:50,198 --> 01:32:52,766 What Muscle Shoals did to that song 1786 01:32:52,768 --> 01:32:56,036 was truly spectacular, they brought 1787 01:32:56,038 --> 01:32:59,105 these rhythmic elements and harmonic elements 1788 01:32:59,107 --> 01:33:03,376 that we could never have reached. 1789 01:33:03,378 --> 01:33:03,878 ♪ 1790 01:33:09,851 --> 01:33:12,352 And then, Chris Blackwell says, 1791 01:33:12,354 --> 01:33:13,720 "Well, we'd like for you guys 1792 01:33:13,722 --> 01:33:15,789 to go on the road with us." 1793 01:33:15,791 --> 01:33:18,124 And so, we'd go out and play with Traffic 1794 01:33:18,126 --> 01:33:22,195 at these big venues and 20,000 people. 1795 01:33:22,197 --> 01:33:24,331 We were just thrilled that they agreed, 1796 01:33:24,333 --> 01:33:26,266 but of course, they'd actually never 1797 01:33:26,268 --> 01:33:28,935 been on the road with anyone. 1798 01:33:28,937 --> 01:33:32,172 There were times when Jim and I and Chris 1799 01:33:32,174 --> 01:33:33,974 would get together and sort of worry, 1800 01:33:33,976 --> 01:33:38,044 say, "Are we corrupting these guys' minds?" 1801 01:33:38,046 --> 01:33:41,014 and that their music possibly came out 1802 01:33:41,016 --> 01:33:43,083 of some sort of innocence. 1803 01:33:43,085 --> 01:33:47,621 We suffered a certain amount of guilt for that. 1804 01:33:51,025 --> 01:33:54,194 Musicians are pretty noted for the gypsy life, 1805 01:33:54,196 --> 01:33:57,230 moving around and playing a different venue every night, 1806 01:33:57,232 --> 01:34:01,167 but we really liked our family life. 1807 01:34:01,169 --> 01:34:01,669 ♪ 1808 01:34:06,174 --> 01:34:09,442 When I first started in music, I had visions of New York 1809 01:34:09,444 --> 01:34:12,479 and Los Angeles and travel, different places, 1810 01:34:12,481 --> 01:34:14,881 and the more I've done that, the more I've realized 1811 01:34:14,883 --> 01:34:16,716 that this is the best place. 1812 01:34:16,718 --> 01:34:20,186 It is my home and I love it here. 1813 01:34:20,188 --> 01:34:23,323 We had many opportunities to move our operation. 1814 01:34:23,325 --> 01:34:25,125 We thought, "People would come to us." 1815 01:34:25,127 --> 01:34:26,793 Why would we have to go to them 1816 01:34:26,795 --> 01:34:28,995 "when they'll come to us?" 1817 01:34:28,997 --> 01:34:31,097 ♪ Sometimes even now 1818 01:34:31,099 --> 01:34:35,869 ♪ When I'm feeling lonely and beat ♪ 1819 01:34:35,871 --> 01:34:41,374 ♪ I drift back in time and I find my feet ♪ 1820 01:34:41,376 --> 01:34:45,178 ♪ Down on Mainstreet 1821 01:34:45,180 --> 01:34:47,280 I'm gonna tell you, working with Bob Seger 1822 01:34:47,282 --> 01:34:49,749 was just magnificent, it really was. 1823 01:34:49,751 --> 01:34:55,288 He was the kind of guy that he had no ego. 1824 01:34:55,290 --> 01:34:57,557 ♪ Down on Mainstreet 1825 01:34:57,559 --> 01:35:00,293 And "Mainstreet" is one of my really favorite cuts. 1826 01:35:00,295 --> 01:35:02,629 Seger really put his heart in that one. 1827 01:35:02,631 --> 01:35:06,166 Most of the people in Detroit and the Muscle Shoals people 1828 01:35:06,168 --> 01:35:08,468 thought they were talking about the Main Street 1829 01:35:08,470 --> 01:35:10,870 of their town. 1830 01:35:10,872 --> 01:35:13,039 We had a ten-year run with him 1831 01:35:13,041 --> 01:35:15,675 that we were at least doing half the album 1832 01:35:15,677 --> 01:35:17,510 each time he put out an album. 1833 01:35:17,512 --> 01:35:18,012 ♪ 1834 01:35:25,487 --> 01:35:30,724 The studio just started taking a life of its own. 1835 01:35:32,026 --> 01:35:34,527 Stars fell on Alabama, 1836 01:35:34,529 --> 01:35:37,063 and everybody who was anybody 1837 01:35:37,065 --> 01:35:39,199 came to record at that studio. 1838 01:35:39,201 --> 01:35:42,202 ♪ When I think back on all the crap ♪ 1839 01:35:42,204 --> 01:35:47,474 ♪ I learned in high school ♪ 1840 01:35:47,476 --> 01:35:50,977 ♪ It's a wonder I can think at all ♪ 1841 01:35:50,979 --> 01:35:53,246 When we really got moving in the '70s, 1842 01:35:53,248 --> 01:35:55,515 we were doing like, 50 albums a year. 1843 01:35:55,517 --> 01:35:58,118 It was one of the best rooms I've ever worked in. 1844 01:35:58,120 --> 01:36:00,086 The sound was like the perfect sound. 1845 01:36:00,088 --> 01:36:02,922 It was the sound that you'd been going for 1846 01:36:02,924 --> 01:36:04,824 everywhere else, but couldn't get, 1847 01:36:04,826 --> 01:36:06,359 and that's why it became the place 1848 01:36:06,361 --> 01:36:08,862 where everybody wanted to record. 1849 01:36:08,864 --> 01:36:12,065 ♪ I got a Nikon camera 1850 01:36:12,067 --> 01:36:15,335 ♪ I love to take a photograph ♪ 1851 01:36:15,337 --> 01:36:20,940 ♪ So Mama, don't take my Kodachrome away ♪ 1852 01:36:20,942 --> 01:36:23,309 We were very fortunate to get to work 1853 01:36:23,311 --> 01:36:25,445 with a lot of the big stars. 1854 01:36:25,447 --> 01:36:29,916 Bob Dylan, Paul Simon, Boz Scaggs, Staple Singers. 1855 01:36:29,918 --> 01:36:32,218 Rod Stewart, Joe Cocker. 1856 01:36:32,220 --> 01:36:34,254 I mean, I just named you a list. 1857 01:36:34,256 --> 01:36:34,954 Johnnie Taylor. 1858 01:36:34,956 --> 01:36:35,822 Glenn Frey. 1859 01:36:35,824 --> 01:36:36,790 Leon Russell. 1860 01:36:36,792 --> 01:36:37,657 Willie Nelson. 1861 01:36:37,659 --> 01:36:38,825 Levon Helm. 1862 01:36:38,827 --> 01:36:39,793 Donnie Fritts. 1863 01:36:39,795 --> 01:36:40,894 Carlos Santana. 1864 01:36:40,896 --> 01:36:41,861 John Prine. 1865 01:36:41,863 --> 01:36:42,762 Millie Jackson. 1866 01:36:42,764 --> 01:36:44,130 R.B. Greaves. 1867 01:36:44,132 --> 01:36:45,231 JJ Cale. 1868 01:36:45,233 --> 01:36:46,533 Dire Straits. 1869 01:36:46,535 --> 01:36:48,568 Simon and Garfunkel. 1870 01:36:48,570 --> 01:36:50,370 ♪ Mama, don't take my Kodachrome ♪ 1871 01:36:50,372 --> 01:36:52,238 ♪ Mama, don't take my Kodachrome ♪ 1872 01:36:52,240 --> 01:36:56,976 ♪ Mama, don't take my Kodachrome away ♪ 1873 01:36:56,978 --> 01:36:59,279 Still amazes me today that all that music 1874 01:36:59,281 --> 01:37:02,081 was played by us guys, 1875 01:37:02,083 --> 01:37:04,150 a lot of the music was hits. 1876 01:37:04,152 --> 01:37:06,786 You look back, you see the discography, 1877 01:37:06,788 --> 01:37:09,722 we're as amazed as anybody. 1878 01:37:09,724 --> 01:37:10,224 ♪ 1879 01:37:19,835 --> 01:37:20,335 ♪ 1880 01:38:08,350 --> 01:38:11,985 My whole life has been based on... 1881 01:38:11,987 --> 01:38:15,388 a lot of rejection, 1882 01:38:15,390 --> 01:38:18,992 and to be honest with you, I think rejection 1883 01:38:18,994 --> 01:38:23,596 played a big role in my life because 1884 01:38:23,598 --> 01:38:26,266 I thrived on it. 1885 01:38:26,268 --> 01:38:31,437 I wanted to prove the world was wrong and I was right. 1886 01:38:31,439 --> 01:38:34,340 I was rejected by my mother. 1887 01:38:34,342 --> 01:38:37,210 I was rejected by schoolmates 1888 01:38:37,212 --> 01:38:40,246 because I was poverty-stricken. 1889 01:38:40,248 --> 01:38:42,282 As I grew older, I was rejected 1890 01:38:42,284 --> 01:38:46,152 by Atlantic Records with Jerry Wexler. 1891 01:38:46,154 --> 01:38:49,789 I don't think I've ever been more angry 1892 01:38:49,791 --> 01:38:51,624 than I was at Jerry Wexler 1893 01:38:51,626 --> 01:38:56,462 and the Swampers who left me at that time. 1894 01:38:56,464 --> 01:38:58,598 It was bitter. 1895 01:39:04,004 --> 01:39:06,906 But that all passes with time. 1896 01:39:06,908 --> 01:39:09,542 Those things change. 1897 01:39:09,544 --> 01:39:10,044 ♪ 1898 01:39:23,158 --> 01:39:27,026 My respect for Rick Hall is never-ending. 1899 01:39:27,028 --> 01:39:29,362 He was our mentor. 1900 01:39:29,364 --> 01:39:32,598 He gave all of us an opportunity 1901 01:39:32,600 --> 01:39:38,671 that we would have never gotten without him. 1902 01:39:38,673 --> 01:39:42,041 We all got our start working with Rick Hall. 1903 01:39:42,043 --> 01:39:43,643 Rick is really the founder 1904 01:39:43,645 --> 01:39:47,547 of the music business in Muscle Shoals. 1905 01:39:47,549 --> 01:39:49,482 These are guys that I love with all my heart, 1906 01:39:49,484 --> 01:39:51,751 and we'd worked together for years, 1907 01:39:51,753 --> 01:39:53,419 who wanted, like I did, 1908 01:39:53,421 --> 01:39:56,622 to become special in the music business. 1909 01:39:56,624 --> 01:39:57,124 ♪ 1910 01:40:05,633 --> 01:40:10,203 Because they played on so many of these wonderful hit records, 1911 01:40:10,205 --> 01:40:11,904 they will take their place 1912 01:40:11,906 --> 01:40:14,340 in the history of American music. 1913 01:40:14,342 --> 01:40:16,142 That's the great thing about recording. 1914 01:40:16,144 --> 01:40:17,543 From there on, you're immortal 1915 01:40:17,545 --> 01:40:20,079 because it's in the grooves, right? 1916 01:40:20,081 --> 01:40:22,515 Everything that everybody's done here, 1917 01:40:22,517 --> 01:40:24,550 it came from their heart, 1918 01:40:24,552 --> 01:40:27,720 and that's what makes Muscle Shoals so powerful. 1919 01:40:27,722 --> 01:40:30,390 What music built there is not something 1920 01:40:30,392 --> 01:40:33,326 that you can see with your eye. 1921 01:40:33,328 --> 01:40:35,528 In fact, if you look at the recording studios, 1922 01:40:35,530 --> 01:40:37,463 they were humble shells, 1923 01:40:37,465 --> 01:40:41,401 but what they contained was an empire 1924 01:40:41,403 --> 01:40:45,371 that crossed race and creed, ethnicity. 1925 01:40:45,373 --> 01:40:47,640 It was revolutionary. 1926 01:40:47,642 --> 01:40:51,044 I'm honored to step in the place of people 1927 01:40:51,046 --> 01:40:53,679 who I wish I could have met. 1928 01:40:53,681 --> 01:40:55,381 You know, there's still a piece of Etta here, 1929 01:40:55,383 --> 01:40:57,016 there's still a piece of Aretha here, 1930 01:40:57,018 --> 01:40:58,284 there's a piece of everybody 1931 01:40:58,286 --> 01:41:00,019 who walked through these doors. 1932 01:41:00,021 --> 01:41:02,321 There's a perfect storm here. 1933 01:41:02,323 --> 01:41:05,324 Everybody needs to know all the different nuances 1934 01:41:05,326 --> 01:41:07,460 that went into making this thing happen 1935 01:41:07,462 --> 01:41:09,395 and all the stars aligning 1936 01:41:09,397 --> 01:41:12,732 and exploding the way it did. 1937 01:41:12,734 --> 01:41:16,369 I'm just so proud to be from this area 1938 01:41:16,371 --> 01:41:20,039 and to see everything that is to come 1939 01:41:20,041 --> 01:41:22,942 out of this incredible singing river. 1940 01:41:22,944 --> 01:41:24,811 I am honored. 1941 01:41:26,380 --> 01:41:26,880 ♪ 1942 01:41:38,593 --> 01:41:42,328 ♪ Well, I'm pressing on 1943 01:41:45,532 --> 01:41:50,269 ♪ Yeah, I'm pressing on 1944 01:41:52,840 --> 01:41:56,109 ♪ And I'm pressing on 1945 01:41:56,111 --> 01:42:02,448 ♪ To the higher calling of my Lord ♪ 1946 01:42:05,552 --> 01:42:09,522 ♪ Can't you see that I'm pressing on ♪ 1947 01:42:12,392 --> 01:42:16,796 ♪ I'm pressing on 1948 01:42:20,834 --> 01:42:23,169 ♪ I'm pressing on 1949 01:42:23,171 --> 01:42:29,542 ♪ To the higher calling of my Lord ♪ 1950 01:42:34,214 --> 01:42:37,316 ♪ Shake the dust off your feet ♪ 1951 01:42:37,318 --> 01:42:41,187 ♪ Don't look back 1952 01:42:41,189 --> 01:42:43,422 ♪ Nothing gonna hold you down ♪ 1953 01:42:43,424 --> 01:42:47,894 ♪ There's nothing you lack ♪ 1954 01:42:47,896 --> 01:42:50,696 ♪ Temptation's not an easy thing ♪ 1955 01:42:50,698 --> 01:42:54,133 ♪ Adam gave the devil reigns ♪ 1956 01:42:54,135 --> 01:42:57,737 ♪ And because he sinned, I got no choice ♪ 1957 01:42:57,739 --> 01:42:59,739 ♪ It runs in my veins 1958 01:42:59,741 --> 01:43:04,110 ♪ But I gotta keep pressing on ♪ 1959 01:43:04,112 --> 01:43:06,312 ♪ On and on and on and on ♪ 1960 01:43:06,314 --> 01:43:10,850 ♪ I gotta keep pressing on ♪ 1961 01:43:12,920 --> 01:43:17,023 ♪ I'm gonna keep pressing, pressing on ♪ 1962 01:43:17,025 --> 01:43:23,229 ♪ To the higher, higher calling of my Lord ♪ 1963 01:43:25,899 --> 01:43:28,301 ♪ Yeah 1964 01:43:28,303 --> 01:43:31,103 ♪ I gotta go higher 1965 01:43:31,105 --> 01:43:33,439 ♪ On and on and on and on ♪ 1966 01:43:33,441 --> 01:43:37,743 ♪ I gotta go higher 1967 01:43:40,480 --> 01:43:43,816 ♪ I'm gonna go higher 1968 01:43:43,818 --> 01:43:45,585 ♪ To the higher 1969 01:43:45,587 --> 01:43:50,856 ♪ To the higher calling of my Lord ♪ 1970 01:43:52,559 --> 01:43:57,463 ♪ I know somebody, somebody feels what I'm saying ♪ 1971 01:43:57,465 --> 01:43:59,932 ♪ Somebody knows what I'm going through ♪ 1972 01:43:59,934 --> 01:44:04,670 ♪ Who knows I want to go higher ♪ 1973 01:44:07,040 --> 01:44:11,410 ♪ I know you want to keep pressing on, yeah ♪ 1974 01:44:11,412 --> 01:44:17,149 ♪ To the highest calling of the Lord ♪ 1975 01:44:17,151 --> 01:44:17,651 ♪ 1976 01:44:25,159 --> 01:44:26,859 Turn it up. 1977 01:44:31,565 --> 01:44:34,267 Ronnie had always talked about the guys in Muscle Shoals, 1978 01:44:34,269 --> 01:44:36,435 then when we wrote "Sweet Home Alabama," 1979 01:44:36,437 --> 01:44:38,204 the last verse says, 1980 01:44:38,206 --> 01:44:40,439 "Muscle Shoals has got the Swampers." 1981 01:44:40,441 --> 01:44:42,808 I went, "Ronnie, what is that, Swampers?" 1982 01:44:42,810 --> 01:44:44,710 He goes, "Oh, that's... that's Jimmy and Roger" 1983 01:44:44,712 --> 01:44:46,612 and the guys at Muscle Shoals." 1984 01:44:46,614 --> 01:44:51,651 ♪ Now Muscle Shoals has got the Swampers ♪ 1985 01:44:51,653 --> 01:44:55,888 ♪ And they've been known to pick a song or two ♪ 1986 01:44:55,890 --> 01:44:58,824 We were given that name by Denny Cordell 1987 01:44:58,826 --> 01:45:01,460 who was the producer with Leon Russell. 1988 01:45:01,462 --> 01:45:03,763 I think he just thought it sounded good, 1989 01:45:03,765 --> 01:45:06,666 'cause Muscle Shoals has a lot of water here. 1990 01:45:06,668 --> 01:45:08,367 You gotta have a name. 1991 01:45:08,369 --> 01:45:11,337 Swampers is a good nickname. 1992 01:45:11,339 --> 01:45:16,042 ♪ Sweet home Alabama 1993 01:45:16,044 --> 01:45:19,312 ♪ Lord, I'm coming home to you ♪ 1994 01:45:19,314 --> 01:45:20,913 There's two guitar solos in that song, 1995 01:45:20,915 --> 01:45:22,882 one short one and one very long one, 1996 01:45:22,884 --> 01:45:24,617 and they both came to me in a dream, 1997 01:45:24,619 --> 01:45:27,586 absolutely note for note, all the transition points, 1998 01:45:27,588 --> 01:45:29,855 the fingering, the chord voicings. 1999 01:45:29,857 --> 01:45:32,325 I woke up out of the dream, picked up the guitar, 2000 01:45:32,327 --> 01:45:33,492 and it was done. 2001 01:45:33,494 --> 01:45:34,460 ♪ Here I come 2002 01:45:34,462 --> 01:45:36,796 ♪ Alabama 2003 01:45:36,798 --> 01:45:37,298 ♪ 2004 01:45:46,908 --> 01:45:47,408 ♪ 2005 01:45:54,949 --> 01:45:58,918 ♪ Home 2006 01:45:58,920 --> 01:46:03,823 ♪ Alabama home 2007 01:46:03,825 --> 01:46:08,794 ♪ Alabama home 2008 01:46:08,796 --> 01:46:13,466 ♪ Alabama home 2009 01:46:13,468 --> 01:46:15,901 ♪ Alabama 2010 01:46:15,903 --> 01:46:16,403 ♪ 2011 01:46:24,812 --> 01:46:29,715 ♪ Big wheels keep on turning ♪ 2012 01:46:29,717 --> 01:46:34,553 ♪ Carry me home to see my kin ♪ 2013 01:46:34,555 --> 01:46:39,425 ♪ Singing songs about the Southland ♪ 2014 01:46:39,427 --> 01:46:41,660 ♪ I miss Alabamy once again ♪ 2015 01:46:41,662 --> 01:46:45,331 ♪ And I think it's a sin, yes ♪ 2016 01:46:45,333 --> 01:46:45,833 ♪ 2017 01:46:53,941 --> 01:46:58,844 ♪ Well, I heard Mr. Young sing about her ♪ 2018 01:46:58,846 --> 01:47:03,749 ♪ Well, I heard ole Neil put her down ♪ 2019 01:47:03,751 --> 01:47:08,754 ♪ Well, I hope Neil Young will remember ♪ 2020 01:47:08,756 --> 01:47:14,026 ♪ A Southern man don't need him around anyhow ♪ 2021 01:47:14,028 --> 01:47:18,764 ♪ Sweet home Alabama 2022 01:47:18,766 --> 01:47:23,636 ♪ Where the skies are so blue ♪ 2023 01:47:23,638 --> 01:47:28,641 ♪ Sweet home Alabama 2024 01:47:28,643 --> 01:47:32,244 ♪ Lord, I'm coming home to you ♪ 2025 01:47:32,246 --> 01:47:32,746 ♪ 2026 01:47:43,090 --> 01:47:46,525 ♪ In Birmingham, they love the governor ♪ 2027 01:47:46,527 --> 01:47:48,093 ♪ Boo, boo, boo 2028 01:47:48,095 --> 01:47:52,932 ♪ Now we all did what we could do ♪ 2029 01:47:52,934 --> 01:47:58,103 ♪ Now Watergate does not bother me ♪ 2030 01:47:58,105 --> 01:48:00,673 ♪ Does your conscience bother you ♪ 2031 01:48:00,675 --> 01:48:03,242 ♪ Tell the truth 2032 01:48:03,244 --> 01:48:08,013 ♪ Sweet home Alabama 2033 01:48:08,015 --> 01:48:13,219 ♪ Where the skies are so blue ♪ 2034 01:48:13,221 --> 01:48:17,957 ♪ Sweet home Alabama 2035 01:48:17,959 --> 01:48:20,359 ♪ Lord, I'm coming home to you ♪ 2036 01:48:20,361 --> 01:48:21,360 ♪ Here I come 2037 01:48:21,362 --> 01:48:23,729 ♪ Alabama 2038 01:48:23,731 --> 01:48:24,231 ♪ 2039 01:48:33,841 --> 01:48:34,341 ♪ 2040 01:48:41,983 --> 01:48:45,684 ♪ Home 2041 01:48:45,686 --> 01:48:50,589 ♪ Alabama home 2042 01:48:50,591 --> 01:48:55,528 ♪ Alabama home 2043 01:48:55,530 --> 01:49:00,432 ♪ Alabama home 2044 01:49:00,434 --> 01:49:02,434 ♪ Alabama 2045 01:49:02,436 --> 01:49:02,936 ♪ 2046 01:49:11,345 --> 01:49:16,649 ♪ Now, Muscle Shoals has got the Swampers ♪ 2047 01:49:16,651 --> 01:49:21,520 ♪ And they've been known to pick a song or two ♪ 2048 01:49:21,522 --> 01:49:26,058 ♪ Lord, they get me off so much ♪ 2049 01:49:26,060 --> 01:49:28,627 ♪ They pick me up when I'm feeling blue ♪ 2050 01:49:28,629 --> 01:49:31,463 ♪ Now how about you 2051 01:49:31,465 --> 01:49:36,201 ♪ Sweet home Alabama 2052 01:49:36,203 --> 01:49:41,340 ♪ Where the skies are so blue ♪ 2053 01:49:41,342 --> 01:49:46,045 ♪ Sweet home Alabama 2054 01:49:46,047 --> 01:49:51,216 ♪ Lord, I'm coming home to you ♪ 2055 01:49:51,218 --> 01:49:53,586 ♪ Sweet home Alabama 2056 01:49:53,588 --> 01:49:55,955 ♪ Oh, sweet home 2057 01:49:55,957 --> 01:49:58,123 ♪ Where the skies are so blue ♪ 2058 01:49:58,125 --> 01:50:00,893 ♪ And the governor's true 2059 01:50:00,895 --> 01:50:05,798 ♪ Sweet home Alabama 2060 01:50:05,800 --> 01:50:10,769 ♪ Lord, I'm coming home to you ♪ 2061 01:50:10,771 --> 01:50:13,305 ♪ Sweet home Alabama 2062 01:50:13,307 --> 01:50:15,708 ♪ Oh, sweet home 2063 01:50:15,710 --> 01:50:17,910 ♪ Where the skies are so blue ♪ 2064 01:50:17,912 --> 01:50:19,511 ♪ And the governor's true 2065 01:50:19,513 --> 01:50:22,548 When you hear musicians, 2066 01:50:22,550 --> 01:50:24,950 five or six of 'em in a room, 2067 01:50:24,952 --> 01:50:26,852 and you hear the imperfections, 2068 01:50:26,854 --> 01:50:29,388 that's the human element. 2069 01:50:29,390 --> 01:50:31,457 If a guy falls off of the stool 2070 01:50:31,459 --> 01:50:34,627 who's playing the drums, I really don't give a shit, 2071 01:50:34,629 --> 01:50:36,862 as long as he don't miss a beat. 2072 01:50:36,864 --> 01:50:38,230 He can get back up and climb back up, 2073 01:50:38,232 --> 01:50:40,933 and most people, including myself, 2074 01:50:40,935 --> 01:50:42,901 think that's great. 2075 01:50:42,903 --> 01:50:45,437 That's the human element, there's faults. 2076 01:50:45,439 --> 01:50:48,307 So, the imperfections gives it the human element, 2077 01:50:48,309 --> 01:50:51,810 which I believe is what we need today more of, 2078 01:50:51,812 --> 01:50:55,180 and that's how you make magic and great records. 2079 01:50:55,182 --> 01:50:57,650 Amen. 2080 01:50:57,652 --> 01:51:00,886 That's my sermon for the day, by the way. 2081 01:51:00,888 --> 01:51:01,388 ♪ 156495

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