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>> Look at all the people.
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[music playing]
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>> [non-english speech]
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>> Part of me thought that I'ddo it and everything will be
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magically fixed for me.
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>> It's really hard to definehow these experiences impact
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your life because they
do in so many ways.
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>> There was a before, and therewas an after and a very clear
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line.
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And a line was ayahuasca.
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[non-english singing]
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>> [non-english speech]
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>> It's interesting
because in medical school,
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we're not taught about
energies or about spirits.
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So doctors can't fix
what they can't see.
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So it's almost like
there's a different lens
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that the shaman is bringing in,
one that we're not necessarily
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seeing.
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>> Science is very good,
but is very limited.
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So the implications
of this is there
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are many other ways to know.
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There are other forms of
knowing that are not scientific.
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Yet they are valid.
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>> [non-english speech]
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>> I have sat with probably
about 65 shamans or so, maybe
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a few more, but I've never
experienced the craft
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at the level of talent that
I've experienced with the really
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good Shipibo shamans.
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>> [non-english speech]
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>> The Shipibo, they
are already connected.
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They have been raised
in the knowledge
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of the spiritual world.
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This is a reality for them.
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They know that they
can learn from plant.
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So they're going to go directly
on this level of how to learn
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and how to heal.
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>> [non-english speech]
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>> These teaching plants are
the channels from which Gaia
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or the spirit of nature
conveys what you need to know,
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and somehow or other, these
plants, particularly ayahuasca,
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has an uncanny sense of exactly
what it is you need to be--
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what needs to be
revealed to you.
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>> When I turned 40, I hita place in my life that I
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immediately defined
as a midlife crisis.
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And so for my
birthday, I decided
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to give myself a special gift.
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And a good friend of
mine was mentioning
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magic mushrooms in Mexico
and Oaxaca with a shaman.
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I was like, wow,
how cool is that.
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When I decided to go to Oaxaca
to do the magic mushrooms,
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I mentioned this to my mom,
and she did not like this idea.
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>> [non-english speech]
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>> She thought it
was the worst idea.
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She actually said to me,
aye, mijo, why don't you
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just go to a beach and get
drunk all day and chase women.
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And I'm like no, no.
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That's actually-- I'm trying
to get away from that.
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I can't say that that
particular ceremony shifted much
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in my life.
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But one thing that where I am
now seems just magical to me
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is that the next day after doing
this ceremony with the shaman
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in Oaxaca, he said now that
you've met the children,
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you've got to meet the mother.
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And I'm like who is the
mother, and he said ayahuasca.
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I'm like I don't know--
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I don't know what that is.
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And he said don't worry.
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When the time is right,
she will call you.
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Nine, 10 months later,
I felt the call.
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>> I was in my 20s whenI first met the medicine.
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I was-- I just
graduated college.
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I was a student
athlete at USC, and I
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was a professional swimmer.
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I was PAC 10 champion,
national champion.
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I was coming from a few
years of successful--
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of being a successful
sports man.
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And so I had this
thing with success
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that was a bit in conflict
with another side of me,
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which was the artistic side
of me that had been cultivated
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also since I was a little kid.
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And so I went to the
medicine a little bit looking
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for clarity, struggling a
little bit with direction
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because a part of me, the
competitive part of me
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wanted a career,
wanted to make money.
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But there was also
the other side of me
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that was the creative one, the
kid in me that just enjoyed
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painting and being creative.
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And so I went to the medicine
looking for clarity and help.
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>> I had a friend and she told
me about ayahuasca and she was
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actually going to Peru.
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She also told me that it
produces hallucinations,
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and part of it is vomitingand having diarrhea.
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And I didn't think much of
it aside from a little bit
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of judgment like why do it.
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After she came back, I remember
we took a walk through Central
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Park, and as she was telling
me what she had experienced,
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I wasn't so much interested in
the context of the experience.
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But there was energy
around her that--
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sense of purpose and joy and
just overall content that
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was so new, and I
thought to myself maybe
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that's the thing I've
been looking for.
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>> I got an email with all ofthe preparation that one has
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to undertake-- no red
meat, no oils, no--
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it's very limited.
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I followed the diet
very, very closely.
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Some things I couldn't really
explain, but I was like, well,
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let me just go with it.
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But the one I found interesting
was that no masturbation
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and no sex.
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And I was like, OK, purity.
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I see the whole purity thing.
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I can go with that.
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>> [non-english speech]
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>> So there is a practicein the Shipibo lineage when
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you're coming to drink ayahuascathat takes place now as taking
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a vomitivo in advance
of drinking ayahuasca.
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>> And this is one spoon of and
we'll just the second one now.
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>> OK.
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No.
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>> Only one?
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>> Sorry, we don't know.
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It's still gonna work right?
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>> Yeah, it's going to work.
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It does normally.
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So just your tummy's
gonna be a bit sensitive.
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But then you would just add one.
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>> Just add one.
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>> All right.
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>> I was a little shocked to
hear that one of the first
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things that they give you is
this thing called the vomitivo,
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and it's this milky white
substance that they make from
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two plants called
azucena and oje.
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And it's-- you just chug it,
and you drink it as fast as you
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can.
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And what happens is once
you get it all down,
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it will come right back up.
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[retching]
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>> Vomitivo is taken in part
because people may not have
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dieted, and maybe they have
things in their system that
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they shouldn't
coming to ayahuasca.
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So it's a safeguard.
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It's a safety measure.
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But also it's a purging of this
stringy, mucus-y, sticky stuff
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that we have in us.
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So when we clean, we
have a clear container
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to receive the ayahuasca.
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We have a clear container
to receive the master
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plant that we're dieting with.
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>> [non-english speech]
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>> [non-english speech]
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>> The idea is to remove anyinterferences that are around
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us so that we can connectdeeper to the master plants.
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>> Certain plants they do
refer to as master plants,
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those plants that are
whether they're trees,
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whether they're flowers, or
whatever-- they're vines--
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they regard certain
ones of these plants
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as the big plants that deliver
a particularly powerful healing
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force and assistance
once you have
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a good relationship with them.
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[music playing]
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>> I was seeking help in terms
of connecting on a deeper way
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with my artistic side in order
to be able to bring forth
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a project or a body of work that
was going to be meaningful not
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just for myself but
for the community.
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They still have prescribed me
a diet with pina colada, which
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is this little plant that grows
everywhere in the village.
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And she told me to pick
the leaves of this plant
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and in the meantime
to talk to the plant
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to ask for assistance, to
ask what I was looking for.
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Because one thing is ayahuasca
and the visionary psychotropic
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world of ayahuasca but
to do it during the day,
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to talk to a plant that
you're picking its leaves
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was a different
kind of suggestion.
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But I did it.
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>> For me as a doctor,
I would say, yeah,
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that sounds pretty strange.
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I didn't believe that
or understand that.
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But then in doing
that, I learned a lot.
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I went through the experience.
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I decided to enter
this mystical school
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and try to see what I can
learn based on what I had seen
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these shamans and these
healers doing, how they
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were performing, and the kind
of results they had with people.
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>> First of all, passing
that block of how do I talk
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to a plant, for me, it was that.
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A plant's teaching me?
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I'm used to opening a book.
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>> [non-english speech]
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>> The first night that
I was doing the diet,
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I woke up from a dream, and in
this dream there was this giant
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red snake coming down from
the sky, the same color--
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the red-- the same red
as the pina colada.
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This snake was coming down
from the sky singing a song,
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and I woke up.
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It wasn't intimidating.
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I wasn't afraid of the snake.
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It was a friendly presence, but
he was such a peculiar dream,
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that I woke up.
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So in the morning,
Estella, the first
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question that she asked me
is how did I-- how I slept.
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How did I sleep?
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And I told her
that I slept good,
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but I did wake up
through this dream.
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And she told me that this is
how plants very often show up
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to establish the
connection with the people,
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the diet, this plant.
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>> The plants are
always connected to us.
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I believe that it is
more about our awareness
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of that connection,
and what helps
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to bring that awareness online
is when the food is removed.
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The social activities are
removed either completely
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or significantly where you
retrieve from your life
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and make the relationship
with the plant
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your primary relationship.
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>> And what happened a month
later is that I had filled up
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a notebook this big of ideas
for art projects, for scripts,
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for all sorts of different
projects that were inspired
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by the dreams that I would
have throughout the night,
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and I would wake up in the
middle of the night and take
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notes.
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These people, the Shipibos
are pharmacists of the jungle.
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They have so much
knowledge and not only
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about the plant to give
you if you cut yourself.
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They have a plant
for your depression.
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They have a plant they can
diet for your creativity,
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for your reproductive system.
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[non-english singing]
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>> [non-english speech]
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>> When you invite plant energy,
they teach you attitudes,
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and they give you intelligence.
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You understand.
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You understand.
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And there is concept,
spiritual concept.
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Then your visions
open bigger when
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you know what is the meaning
this type of healing including
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the spiritual part.
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Open you up to something new.
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So you start to facilitate.
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Then you do one diet
and another diet.
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And then your knowledge,
understanding open up.
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And then you get to the point
to become Onaya, which is means
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literally the person who knows.
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>> [non-english speech]
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>> I kept working with the
medicine for a year after I
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went to Peru.
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Second time, a year
later, I went back
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to the same center, and
again my last ceremony there,
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I had this vision
with the medicine.
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And it felt like-- so much like
a yes, like absolutely yes.
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There is like an
invitation of some sort.
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>> [non-english speech]
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>> [non-english speech]
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>> [non-english speech]
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>> Ayahuasca is the only
combinatory psychedelic
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in the world.
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That is it takes two plants it.
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Takes the vine, and it
takes a leaf to make.
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>> Ayahuasca vine and
typically chacaruna,
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and that is the monoamine
oxidase inhibitor and then N,N
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DMT --
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dimethyltryptamine.
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Dimethyltryptamine
has also been shown
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to increase BDNF brain-derived
neurotrophic factor, which is
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like Miracle Gro for the brain.
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And so that will also
allow for increased
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neurosynaptic connections
and neurogenesis.
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>> Ayahuasca is a plant
that contains many mysteries
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including what is its mechanism
of action both biologically
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and psychologically.
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>> Now we have this portal that
through our hearts and through
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our-- in our emotional being,
we can feel into this energetic,
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into the mystery.
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People have mystical
experiences.
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They feel it.
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They feel it in their body.
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>> It is something that will
utterly change your entire way
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of thinking about healing,
what's possible for the body
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and mind, and it has the real
potential to shake up medicine
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like no other agent on Earth.
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>> The first time that I heard
about ayahuasca was when I was
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in my early 20s.
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This was in the early 1970s,
and we started hearing reports
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from Brazil about
this strange drug
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from the Amazon, which was
having very interesting effects
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in the culture.
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So a bunch of the
psychologists went down there
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and started doing studies,
and they came back
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blowing everybody's minds
because they were showing
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that this was perhaps the
healthiest psychological
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cultures that they
had ever come across.
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>> In 1993, along with my
colleagues Dennis McKenna
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and Jace Callaway, we went to
Manaus in the Brazilian Amazon
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and conducted a fairly
substantial phase 1 biomedical
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psychiatric evaluation of the
health of long-term members
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of the UDV who utilize
ayahuasca in religious ceremony.
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Twice monthly, we had
a match control group
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that was matched on
socioeconomic lines, education,
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all parameters
except for the fact
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that they had never been
exposed to ayahuasca.
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>> Their first ayahuasca
sessions were usually quite
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terrifying and quite unsettling,
but they were also revelatory
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in the sense that they became
quite afraid but then there was
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a redemptive moment.
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There was a period during these
difficult early experiences
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where they saw a way
to change their life
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and have a better outcome.
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>> When we did structured
psychiatric diagnostic
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interviews, we found that quite
a number of these ayahuasca
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church members had had
histories of some significant
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psychopathology prior to the
time they entered the ayahuasca
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church.
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After their entry
into the church,
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they actually rather
radically transformed.
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>> On the biochemical
side, we were doing various
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measurements.
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We found a surprising
thing, which
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is that the levels of the
serotonin transporters,
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not receptors but
the transporters,
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were significantly
elevated in the drinkers
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compared to in the age matched
control of nondrinkers,
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and we thought, well,
that's interesting.
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There is a clear difference
between the drinkers
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and the non-drinkers.
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They have these elevated
levels of the transporter.
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What does this mean?
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We didn't know what it
meant, but then, of course,
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when you don't know, first thing
you do is go to the literature.
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And we went to the literature,
and we found a whole spectrum
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of publications having
to do with deficits
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in the transporter being
associated with alcoholism
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and homicidal tendencies,
of suicidal tendencies,
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depression, exactly
the kind of thing
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that the UDV people were facing.
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>> [non-english speech]
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>> Everything changed.
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I felt so much love for not
only myself as a sentient being
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but for all other beings.
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The awareness of my own
body and my own body's needs
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was so much more clear.
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I seem to be--
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to have more regulated
sleep cycles.
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I got up early.
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I had much more energy.
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I couldn't hold a grudge.
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I got mad.
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Stuff would happen.
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But I couldn't let go of
this because somehow I
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understood that if
I started giving
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in to the grudge and
the anger and things
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like that this open connection
that I had to the heart
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would just close.
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But I lived that way for
an extended period of time,
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and drinking and smoking
was part of that.
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These things just fell away.
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It was beautiful, and
everybody around me saw it.
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My sister, Vivian,
decided to go to Peru,
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and she's had her own
experiences with ayahuasca.
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And my good friend
Geoffrey, who's
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been my friend of
30 years, one day
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he said, brother, I think I
want to go meet the mother.
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>> I really am aware of my own
depression in the last couple
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of years of my mother's
being sick and passing.
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I even went on medication
for a little bit
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that had me walking
around like a zombie.
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But to see these people
that have actually
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come back from this experience,
and it's in their eyes.
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It's in the way they
carry themselves.
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It's in their attitude
about life now.
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It's really something to see,
and I want some of that, baby.
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Give me some of that juice.
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>> For some things, Western
medicine is not good at.
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So there's things
we're great at,
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and then there's things
that we're not very good at.
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And in particular, chronic
pain, fibromyalgia, depression,
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anxiety, PTSD, there are not a
lot of good treatments for it.
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>> These problems are quite
often rooted in some kind
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of emotional disturbance.
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And when somebody has been
through some serious emotional
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trauma, they do end up
having physical symptoms
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and associated problems.
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And when they go through
a spiritual healing
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and you see a resolution
of physical symptoms,
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well, now we can say
that something happened.
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>> I grew up with a
tremendous level of abuse.
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It was emotional abuse,
the physical abuse,
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and sexual abuse.
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These experiences were
something that were just
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like blocking me from the
world, and I couldn't you
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could physically feel that.
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>> A lot of the therapeutic
potential of these psychedelics
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is you hear a lot of talk these
days about the default mode
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network, and that's a model.
393
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Your brain synthesizes and
takes all the sensory data
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that we're getting
through eyes, ears,
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all our sensory channels takes
that, integrates it internally
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with many other things--
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memories, associations, and
creates this model world
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that we inhabit.
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00:29:36,209 --> 00:29:39,473
Psychedelics temporarily
disrupt that.
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They blow it apart.
401
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That gives you the chance
to look at yourself
402
00:29:43,956 --> 00:29:46,785
from a different perspective,
almost as though you're not
403
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the same person and you can--
404
00:29:49,222 --> 00:29:56,185
their identify may be habits or
presumptions or various things
405
00:29:56,316 --> 00:30:00,711
that are contributing to
this destructive, non-helpful
406
00:30:00,842 --> 00:30:02,148
behavior.
407
00:30:02,278 --> 00:30:04,585
>> I'd heard it was kind
of like miracle drug,
408
00:30:04,715 --> 00:30:07,414
like that it could heal any
sort of mental problem you might
409
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have.
410
00:30:08,850 --> 00:30:10,112
So I had some
problems with anxiety,
411
00:30:10,243 --> 00:30:12,549
and I kind of have an
addictive personality.
412
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:14,987
So I thought maybe
it would cure me.
413
00:30:15,117 --> 00:30:18,120
>> Most of the people that
doesn't really want to go
414
00:30:18,251 --> 00:30:19,513
in the spiritual world.
415
00:30:19,643 --> 00:30:22,864
They're not enough,
very enough many stories
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00:30:22,995 --> 00:30:25,475
that it's fine for us
just to get the healing.
417
00:30:25,606 --> 00:30:27,564
You have to be brave
to drink ayahuasca.
418
00:30:27,695 --> 00:30:32,352
>> There are individuals
who just do not have the--
419
00:30:32,482 --> 00:30:34,702
that inner strength
and fortitude
420
00:30:34,833 --> 00:30:36,443
to be able to handle
this experience.
421
00:30:36,573 --> 00:30:40,882
>> Not everybody is suitable
for psychedelics in general,
422
00:30:41,013 --> 00:30:45,234
no matter whether it's
mushrooms, peyote, San Pedro,
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LSD, or ayahuasca.
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00:30:48,281 --> 00:30:51,023
Fragile people,
people who are manic,
425
00:30:51,153 --> 00:30:52,676
people who are
schizophrenic, people
426
00:30:52,807 --> 00:30:55,288
who have profound mental
and emotional problems
427
00:30:55,418 --> 00:30:57,029
should not be
drinking this stuff.
428
00:30:57,159 --> 00:30:58,857
>> [non-english speech]
429
00:31:18,789 --> 00:31:20,574
>> It's good to
have two options.
430
00:31:20,704 --> 00:31:21,923
You don't to.
431
00:31:22,054 --> 00:31:24,186
We have good experiences
here with people
432
00:31:24,317 --> 00:31:27,363
who had a master plan dietand never drink ayahuasca
433
00:31:27,494 --> 00:31:30,410
and felt great, and
they had awesome dreams.
434
00:31:30,540 --> 00:31:35,023
And so they're both options.
435
00:31:35,154 --> 00:31:37,678
Then everything I said is true.
436
00:31:37,808 --> 00:31:40,289
If you are also looking
into your own darkness,
437
00:31:40,420 --> 00:31:44,903
it can be very scary.
438
00:31:45,033 --> 00:31:48,994
And not everybody is
ready for that that way.
439
00:31:49,124 --> 00:31:53,912
>> Never in my life would I
have ever thought that my mother
440
00:31:54,042 --> 00:31:55,304
would drink ayahuasca.
441
00:31:55,435 --> 00:31:58,568
But one day, I was on
the phone with her,
442
00:31:58,699 --> 00:32:03,747
and I was planning
a trip to Costa Rica
443
00:32:03,878 --> 00:32:06,272
to drink some ayahuasca.
444
00:32:06,402 --> 00:32:09,405
And she said to me I
wish you'd invite me.
445
00:32:09,536 --> 00:32:13,148
I'm like what are
you saying, mom.
446
00:32:13,279 --> 00:32:16,804
Are you saying that you
want to drink the medicine?
447
00:32:16,935 --> 00:32:21,156
And she says yeah.
448
00:32:21,287 --> 00:32:25,595
And all I could
think of was why.
449
00:32:25,726 --> 00:32:31,036
And she said because
I've seen what it's
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00:32:31,166 --> 00:32:32,863
done for you and your sister.
451
00:32:32,994 --> 00:32:34,561
>> [non-english speech]
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00:33:03,894 --> 00:33:06,680
[drumming]
453
00:33:15,906 --> 00:33:19,084
>> The tradition
is very important,
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00:33:19,214 --> 00:33:22,348
and the intention
behind this plant.
455
00:33:22,478 --> 00:33:27,483
And I think about it hadto be grown and harvested
456
00:33:27,614 --> 00:33:32,836
and brewed and prayed over andtransported and then delivered,
457
00:33:32,967 --> 00:33:36,666
and the intention every stepof the way really matters.
458
00:33:36,797 --> 00:33:40,453
And that intention matches the
intention that whoever's taking
459
00:33:40,583 --> 00:33:42,977
it is bringing to it.
460
00:33:47,329 --> 00:33:52,378
>> I find a very, very important
component of doing work with
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00:33:52,508 --> 00:33:55,207
ayahuasca is formulating
an intention,
462
00:33:55,337 --> 00:33:59,689
to really focus it ahead of
time why are you doing this.
463
00:33:59,820 --> 00:34:01,735
Because for it to have
any lasting value,
464
00:34:01,865 --> 00:34:03,345
it's got to be more
than just kicks.
465
00:34:03,476 --> 00:34:05,826
It's got to be more than
a recreational experience.
466
00:34:05,956 --> 00:34:07,784
And it really-- the
experience in and of itself
467
00:34:07,915 --> 00:34:10,048
goes to the core
of that individual.
468
00:34:37,205 --> 00:34:39,773
[non-english singing]
469
00:34:54,004 --> 00:34:58,270
>> Very commonly experienced
by the people that come here,
470
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:00,359
they realize oh my God, I
thought it was going to be
471
00:35:00,489 --> 00:35:01,708
about the ayahuasca.
472
00:35:01,838 --> 00:35:02,796
I thought it was going
to be about this.
473
00:35:02,926 --> 00:35:04,189
It's about the songs.
474
00:35:04,319 --> 00:35:05,712
>> I had a terrible,
terrible experience.
475
00:35:05,842 --> 00:35:06,626
I thought I was dying.
476
00:35:06,756 --> 00:35:08,584
I thought I was dead.
477
00:35:08,715 --> 00:35:10,891
And one of the
helpers came up to me.
478
00:35:11,021 --> 00:35:14,024
I asked for help, and she said
I will take it to the shaman
479
00:35:14,155 --> 00:35:16,201
and they will help you.
480
00:35:16,331 --> 00:35:19,291
And to myself to be honest,
I thought what a bunch of BS
481
00:35:19,421 --> 00:35:21,075
like who's going to help me now.
482
00:35:21,206 --> 00:35:24,426
And I don't-- can't even explain
to you what's happening to me.
483
00:35:24,557 --> 00:35:26,515
By the time she broughtme in front of the shaman,
484
00:35:26,646 --> 00:35:28,430
I couldn't even sit up.
485
00:35:28,561 --> 00:35:32,260
I just collapsed on thecushion that she put me on.
486
00:35:32,391 --> 00:35:35,394
And as he started
singing, there was
487
00:35:35,524 --> 00:35:40,964
something so
incomprehensible happening,
488
00:35:41,095 --> 00:35:42,749
like I was understanding
what the song was
489
00:35:42,879 --> 00:35:44,664
about beyond the words.
490
00:35:44,794 --> 00:35:51,018
It was doing something that I
couldn't even imagine possible.
491
00:35:51,149 --> 00:35:58,286
And by the time he was done
singing to me, I got my bucket,
492
00:35:58,417 --> 00:36:01,985
and I was able to walk back
to my mat in complete peace.
493
00:36:02,116 --> 00:36:04,031
[non-english singing]
494
00:36:06,773 --> 00:36:08,470
>> When I was working
with the Shipibo,
495
00:36:08,601 --> 00:36:12,213
they said really clearly thateven though we recognize that
496
00:36:12,344 --> 00:36:16,652
ayahuasca is the real curandero,or the medicine, the healer,
497
00:36:16,783 --> 00:36:19,220
it's icaros that tell itwhat to do and where to go.
498
00:36:19,351 --> 00:36:42,591
>> [non-english speech]
499
00:36:42,722 --> 00:36:47,683
>> For Shipibo shamans
saying that in a dieta,
500
00:36:47,814 --> 00:36:50,860
the icaro out of the plant.
501
00:36:50,991 --> 00:36:54,821
The plant talked to me
and taught me the icaro.
502
00:36:54,951 --> 00:36:59,434
Someone else may say
being on ayahuasca,
503
00:36:59,565 --> 00:37:05,005
I was inspired to feel
and hear this melody,
504
00:37:05,135 --> 00:37:07,964
compose this melody.
505
00:37:08,095 --> 00:37:09,618
I think they're
one and the same,
506
00:37:09,749 --> 00:37:11,751
and it's very, very complex.
507
00:37:11,881 --> 00:37:14,580
But there are
different narratives
508
00:37:14,710 --> 00:37:17,670
and different ways of talking
about what's going on.
509
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,760
It's far more complex
than we can conceive
510
00:37:20,890 --> 00:37:23,502
that it can accommodate aninfinite in different ways
511
00:37:23,632 --> 00:37:25,243
of talking about the processes.
512
00:37:25,373 --> 00:37:27,941
>> Where we're receiving
from is a mystery,
513
00:37:28,071 --> 00:37:31,510
but I've definitely had the
experience of something just
514
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:34,339
feeling like it's coming through
another dimension or some
515
00:37:34,469 --> 00:37:36,036
people say being channeled.
516
00:37:36,166 --> 00:37:38,212
>> The medicine brings us a
lot of different metaphors.
517
00:37:38,343 --> 00:37:40,867
So if they saw a
bear in somebody,
518
00:37:40,997 --> 00:37:43,086
they would see their anger
or a lion in someone,
519
00:37:43,217 --> 00:37:44,436
they would see their anger.
520
00:37:44,566 --> 00:37:46,525
So if they're working
on a big dragon,
521
00:37:46,655 --> 00:37:49,832
they wouldn't necessarily sing
really strong to that dragon.
522
00:37:49,963 --> 00:37:54,315
They would go really quietly
and move into that energy
523
00:37:54,446 --> 00:37:57,362
almost to trick it to get
in there to do the cleaning.
524
00:37:57,492 --> 00:37:59,451
>> One time I--
525
00:37:59,581 --> 00:38:03,411
where I was just beginning
into shamanism, I looked over
526
00:38:03,542 --> 00:38:05,674
and I saw a shaman
singing to somebody.
527
00:38:05,805 --> 00:38:11,027
And I saw this energy
vortex come out of there
528
00:38:11,158 --> 00:38:13,029
with the song, the icaro.
529
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:16,337
It was this tunnel of energy
that had this vibration moving
530
00:38:16,468 --> 00:38:17,860
through it.
531
00:38:17,991 --> 00:38:20,428
And then it came to
the person's body.
532
00:38:20,559 --> 00:38:25,085
And in that moment, when they
merged and were interacting,
533
00:38:25,215 --> 00:38:26,391
it opened a little window.
534
00:38:26,521 --> 00:38:28,218
I could see over the
shaman's shoulder.
535
00:38:28,349 --> 00:38:30,438
I saw a little
like a television.
536
00:38:30,569 --> 00:38:33,136
I could see inside
the person's body
537
00:38:33,267 --> 00:38:37,576
like the way you can
with the surgery,
538
00:38:37,706 --> 00:38:40,361
open and look and look around.
539
00:38:40,492 --> 00:38:42,929
[non-english singing]
540
00:38:44,974 --> 00:38:48,326
>> The song is affecting
us on the emotional level.
541
00:38:48,456 --> 00:38:51,067
It's impacting the
autonomic nervous system
542
00:38:51,198 --> 00:38:53,940
helping it shift from
sympathetic to parasympathetic.
543
00:38:54,070 --> 00:38:57,813
It's allowing us to establish
contemplative, meditative,
544
00:38:57,944 --> 00:39:03,123
transcendental, mindful
state, requires the mind.
545
00:39:03,253 --> 00:39:05,473
>> [non-english speech]
546
00:39:20,401 --> 00:39:24,405
>> Experience with
ayahuasca with the icaros is
547
00:39:24,536 --> 00:39:28,888
a correction, is a
realization to how we got lost
548
00:39:29,018 --> 00:39:34,110
in the misguided perception into
going into the inception of how
549
00:39:34,241 --> 00:39:39,812
this sense of loss was caused
by a traumatic experience,
550
00:39:39,942 --> 00:39:47,646
by conditioning or PTSD, and the
correction comes from within.
551
00:39:52,041 --> 00:39:54,870
[non-english singing]
552
00:44:24,270 --> 00:44:30,798
>> My duty as a professional
athlete was to win the races.
553
00:44:30,929 --> 00:44:35,194
I was very unconsciously
attached to success.
554
00:44:35,324 --> 00:44:39,894
If I didn't win,
that was a failure.
555
00:44:40,025 --> 00:44:43,071
[non-english speech]
556
00:44:44,116 --> 00:44:46,640
[non-english singing]
557
00:44:46,771 --> 00:44:50,557
There was this ceremony
which the magazine showed me
558
00:44:50,688 --> 00:44:54,256
a particular episode of
when I was a junior swimmer.
559
00:44:54,387 --> 00:44:57,129
And I went to the European
junior championships
560
00:44:57,259 --> 00:45:00,088
and I took prelims as
a joke and I ended up
561
00:45:00,219 --> 00:45:02,438
missing the final for
one cent of a second.
562
00:45:02,569 --> 00:45:05,180
I went to this championship
so ready to win,
563
00:45:05,311 --> 00:45:07,922
so I can't tell you
how disappointed I was.
564
00:45:08,053 --> 00:45:11,665
You know, I felt like I let
down my world at the moment.
565
00:45:15,060 --> 00:45:20,674
The ayahuasca showed me how I
was still carrying the sadness
566
00:45:20,805 --> 00:45:25,461
at being the disappointment in
my father's eyes, in my coach,
567
00:45:25,592 --> 00:45:31,337
in all the people that were
there had an impact on me.
568
00:45:31,467 --> 00:45:34,819
At that particular
moment in my life,
569
00:45:34,949 --> 00:45:37,386
that had so much
hype and expectations
570
00:45:37,517 --> 00:45:42,522
and me not being able to live
up to those expectations, that
571
00:45:42,652 --> 00:45:45,307
influenced me later on also.
572
00:45:45,438 --> 00:45:49,137
That shock was
preventing me also
573
00:45:49,268 --> 00:45:54,273
from being more daring
in life, for example,
574
00:45:54,403 --> 00:45:56,362
because of my fear of failing.
575
00:46:02,455 --> 00:46:08,330
>> I was born with a condition
called congenital amputation.
576
00:46:08,461 --> 00:46:12,421
And there was not
a lot of education
577
00:46:12,552 --> 00:46:17,252
around that, so I've
experienced a lot of shame
578
00:46:17,383 --> 00:46:24,346
and a lot of a
treatment like I was not
579
00:46:24,477 --> 00:46:28,524
human enough or capable enough.
580
00:46:28,655 --> 00:46:34,879
And unfortunately a tremendous
part of that thinking
581
00:46:35,009 --> 00:46:42,016
came actually from my family,
from people who raised me.
582
00:46:42,147 --> 00:46:47,805
And so my coping
mechanism was built
583
00:46:47,935 --> 00:46:56,596
around the identity of provingpeople wrong about myself.
584
00:46:56,726 --> 00:47:02,820
I realized that no matter what
I could achieve, no matter
585
00:47:02,950 --> 00:47:07,520
how well-educated
I was or informed,
586
00:47:07,650 --> 00:47:09,783
the feeling was still there.
587
00:47:09,914 --> 00:47:17,835
And the realization that
even though I spent so much
588
00:47:17,965 --> 00:47:23,014
time and energy proving
other people wrong,
589
00:47:23,144 --> 00:47:27,453
deep inside I took
on those beliefs.
590
00:47:27,583 --> 00:47:35,200
And I knowingly lived my
life out of that place.
591
00:47:35,330 --> 00:47:37,680
[non-english singing]
592
00:47:42,294 --> 00:47:52,217
>> In one ceremony, I found
myself sitting with five other
593
00:47:52,347 --> 00:47:56,351
guys, and they were all me.
594
00:47:56,482 --> 00:48:03,315
And they were all parts of
me that I either ignored
595
00:48:03,445 --> 00:48:09,538
or rejected or suppressed.
596
00:48:09,669 --> 00:48:12,977
And it was a very
difficult thing
597
00:48:13,107 --> 00:48:18,199
to do to be sitting with
apart of me that is vengeful,
598
00:48:18,330 --> 00:48:24,423
the part of me that's lustful,
the part of me that is envious,
599
00:48:24,553 --> 00:48:28,688
the part of me that
is destructive,
600
00:48:28,818 --> 00:48:31,212
the part of me that
wants to steal.
601
00:48:38,654 --> 00:48:40,047
I couldn't even
look at these guy--
602
00:48:40,178 --> 00:48:41,788
I couldn't look.
603
00:48:41,919 --> 00:48:45,835
I could just sit there, and
I knew that I couldn't leave.
604
00:48:45,966 --> 00:48:47,837
But it was my choice.
605
00:48:47,968 --> 00:48:49,622
I stayed.
606
00:48:49,752 --> 00:48:54,888
And it was incredibly difficult
to even look at these guys
607
00:48:55,019 --> 00:49:01,155
because they were all me, and
they were all pretty awful.
608
00:49:06,247 --> 00:49:08,510
>> I started the bawl.
609
00:49:08,641 --> 00:49:11,383
All I could hear was my sorrow.
610
00:49:11,513 --> 00:49:15,517
I realized during the song
that my anger was my weakness.
611
00:49:15,648 --> 00:49:17,563
It was like kryptonite.
612
00:49:17,693 --> 00:49:19,130
It stole my power.
613
00:49:19,260 --> 00:49:22,133
It took away from me
everything that was strong.
614
00:49:22,263 --> 00:49:23,656
>> [non-english speech]
615
00:49:47,593 --> 00:49:52,685
>> That happened to me a couple
of times when I got scared
616
00:49:52,815 --> 00:49:56,863
about the power
of this medicine.
617
00:49:56,994 --> 00:50:00,910
And then it just brings me down
very quickly, and I feel bad.
618
00:50:01,041 --> 00:50:02,173
I feel nauseous.
619
00:50:02,303 --> 00:50:04,697
>> As soon as I
drink it, I felt hot,
620
00:50:04,827 --> 00:50:08,440
and then pretty soon
after, I puked it up.
621
00:50:08,570 --> 00:50:10,485
So I haven't gotten
the full effect.
622
00:50:13,271 --> 00:50:15,229
[non-english singing]
623
00:50:28,808 --> 00:50:32,594
>> There was the spirit of
the medicine caressing me,
624
00:50:32,725 --> 00:50:36,207
telling me there wasn't a
big deal to lose a race.
625
00:50:36,337 --> 00:50:37,469
You know what I mean?
626
00:50:37,599 --> 00:50:39,906
That kind of consoling,
loving energy,
627
00:50:40,037 --> 00:50:42,865
I didn't experience that time.
628
00:50:42,996 --> 00:50:47,261
And so the healing
arrived in which
629
00:50:47,392 --> 00:50:50,612
she helped me understand thatthen my sense of worthiness
630
00:50:50,743 --> 00:50:55,182
had nothing to do with winninga race or winning anything
631
00:50:55,313 --> 00:50:56,618
or losing anything.
632
00:50:56,749 --> 00:50:58,533
It's something that goes beyond.
633
00:50:58,664 --> 00:51:01,536
But also at the same
time in that release,
634
00:51:01,667 --> 00:51:06,933
I felt like space was created,
and that gave birth basically
635
00:51:07,064 --> 00:51:11,459
to a feeling that was
a lot more fearless.
636
00:51:11,590 --> 00:51:16,943
So I defined the massive
plants opened the gate for me
637
00:51:17,074 --> 00:51:24,298
to reclaim my creative
love, creative force.
638
00:51:34,003 --> 00:51:39,618
>> The unfolding of that journey
was actually getting in touch
639
00:51:39,748 --> 00:51:44,710
with vulnerability and receiving
something rather than giving
640
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:49,889
something and receiving
something when I didn't have
641
00:51:50,019 --> 00:52:00,247
that wall because I was so deep
in my fact and I did not have
642
00:52:00,378 --> 00:52:06,340
the coping mechanism that I
could grab on to to go back
643
00:52:06,471 --> 00:52:11,911
to my original safe zone.
644
00:52:12,041 --> 00:52:24,576
And that was one of the very
challenging and very healing
645
00:52:24,706 --> 00:52:29,407
things that happened
during the ceremony.
646
00:52:37,763 --> 00:52:46,163
>> I started to feel more
OK with these other people.
647
00:52:46,293 --> 00:52:48,252
It felt a little somehow safer.
648
00:52:51,951 --> 00:52:56,869
After some time, the most
magical thing happened.
649
00:53:00,742 --> 00:53:03,528
They were all little
boys, and they were me.
650
00:53:06,879 --> 00:53:11,666
And for the first time, I
felt love and compassion
651
00:53:11,797 --> 00:53:17,542
for those parts of me that I
had just rejected for so long.
652
00:53:17,672 --> 00:53:24,679
And to just be able to embracethem as little children,
653
00:53:24,810 --> 00:53:31,556
I cannot describe to you whatthe wholeness that has resulted
654
00:53:31,686 --> 00:53:36,517
from being able to
choose to do that.
655
00:53:41,696 --> 00:53:47,093
If I cannot love and
accept my own dark parts,
656
00:53:47,224 --> 00:53:52,751
I will never be able to accept
the dark parts of another,
657
00:53:52,881 --> 00:54:01,368
which means I cannot love them
because love is exactly that.
658
00:54:01,499 --> 00:54:03,675
>> [non-english speech]
659
00:56:32,171 --> 00:56:34,869
[vocalizing]
660
00:56:35,957 --> 00:56:37,394
[non-english singing]
661
00:56:54,541 --> 00:56:56,978
>> They can be very
difficult sometimes.
662
00:56:57,109 --> 00:56:58,763
That's part of it.
663
00:56:58,893 --> 00:57:02,070
I can say I witnessed that many,
many, many times when people
664
00:57:02,201 --> 00:57:04,769
are very terrified and
frightened and stuck
665
00:57:04,899 --> 00:57:07,206
or they're in pain or all
the different things that
666
00:57:07,336 --> 00:57:08,468
can happen.
667
00:57:08,599 --> 00:57:10,470
And then through
support in the ceremony
668
00:57:10,601 --> 00:57:13,299
by advanced practitioners,
more often than not,
669
00:57:13,430 --> 00:57:16,389
we could get people to
progress and evolve past
670
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:18,086
where they were stuck at.
671
00:57:18,217 --> 00:57:23,831
>> I felt [exhaling] the sense
that God was watching me--
672
00:57:23,962 --> 00:57:26,791
[sniffling]
673
00:57:26,921 --> 00:57:32,144
And loved me no matter what,
that I should love myself
674
00:57:32,274 --> 00:57:33,972
first.
675
00:57:34,102 --> 00:57:37,410
>> Well, my experience
has mainly been puking,
676
00:57:37,541 --> 00:57:38,672
puking a lot.
677
00:57:38,803 --> 00:57:42,850
>> Ayahuasca shatters
our defenses.
678
00:57:42,981 --> 00:57:45,679
It's like the only
choice is surrender,
679
00:57:45,810 --> 00:57:48,290
and it's in that moment
that all the things we've
680
00:57:48,421 --> 00:57:50,728
been holding on to, all the
things that we've been taught,
681
00:57:50,858 --> 00:57:53,731
and all the ways in which
we have been instructed--
682
00:57:53,861 --> 00:57:57,909
you have to be this way--
fall away, oh my God.
683
00:57:58,039 --> 00:58:01,347
Because in surrender is
when the liberation comes.
684
00:58:04,698 --> 00:58:09,790
>> It creates an opportunity
to renegotiate the experience
685
00:58:09,921 --> 00:58:13,490
so as to be able to gain
something different from it.
686
00:58:13,620 --> 00:58:15,753
The experience itself
doesn't change,
687
00:58:15,883 --> 00:58:19,931
but my relation to the
experience changes.
688
00:58:20,061 --> 00:58:24,065
>> I was preparing to thinkthat dangerous highway,
689
00:58:24,196 --> 00:58:26,633
and I was getting--
690
00:58:26,764 --> 00:58:28,243
I was ready.
691
00:58:28,374 --> 00:58:33,205
My body was ready to manifestto suffer from that fear
692
00:58:33,335 --> 00:58:35,555
that I had about the highway.
693
00:58:35,686 --> 00:58:38,645
And so I'm a holding
onto my wheel,
694
00:58:38,776 --> 00:58:40,604
and I realize that
I'm not afraid.
695
00:58:40,734 --> 00:58:43,476
>> There is a potential of very
powerful healing that happens,
696
00:58:43,607 --> 00:58:45,522
and there's many,
many stories of that.
697
00:58:45,652 --> 00:58:49,787
But we cannot downplay the
reality that in most cases,
698
00:58:49,917 --> 00:58:53,312
the integration process
is extremely crucial
699
00:58:53,442 --> 00:58:55,096
to the success of the healing.
700
00:58:55,227 --> 00:58:58,926
>> You can drink ayahuasca 100
times and still be in the same
701
00:58:59,057 --> 00:59:00,145
place.
702
00:59:00,275 --> 00:59:04,410
>> I got homework
from the mother.
703
00:59:04,541 --> 00:59:06,978
She told me in a
ceremony that I had
704
00:59:07,108 --> 00:59:10,982
to do a celibacy
diet in order to get
705
00:59:11,112 --> 00:59:14,551
to where I needed to get to.
706
00:59:14,681 --> 00:59:15,595
That's the long story.
707
00:59:15,726 --> 00:59:17,075
We won't get into that.
708
00:59:17,205 --> 00:59:19,512
But that's what I needed to do.
709
00:59:19,643 --> 00:59:21,558
And she said a year.
710
00:59:21,688 --> 00:59:24,561
And that night I
was like a year.
711
00:59:24,691 --> 00:59:25,474
No.
712
00:59:25,605 --> 00:59:27,781
This is crazy, a year.
713
00:59:27,912 --> 00:59:29,174
How about six months?
714
00:59:29,304 --> 00:59:30,567
And then she said nine.
715
00:59:30,697 --> 00:59:32,264
I was like OK.
716
00:59:32,394 --> 00:59:33,744
So we settled on nine.
717
00:59:33,874 --> 00:59:36,094
>> You blow apart this
default mode network.
718
00:59:36,224 --> 00:59:40,794
You disrupt these bad
behavioral patterns.
719
00:59:40,925 --> 00:59:43,841
But the default mode
network is very resistant.
720
00:59:43,971 --> 00:59:47,584
So if you blow it apart, but
it will fall back together.
721
00:59:47,714 --> 00:59:49,455
It will collapse back together.
722
00:59:49,586 --> 00:59:58,029
>> The experience of that
celibacy dieta was to integrate
723
00:59:58,159 --> 01:00:01,946
all of those parts of myself
that have been exposed and had
724
01:00:02,076 --> 01:00:04,688
risen to the surface
through ceremonies.
725
01:00:04,818 --> 01:00:08,648
>> Emotional intelligence and
understanding our emotions
726
01:00:08,779 --> 01:00:12,391
and navigating our emotions,
that's not the realm
727
01:00:12,521 --> 01:00:14,349
of the mind.
728
01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:19,137
And so the common thread that I
see is disengaging from what we
729
01:00:19,267 --> 01:00:22,880
know and willing to step
into something that cannot be
730
01:00:23,010 --> 01:00:25,665
explained but can
only be experienced.
731
01:00:25,796 --> 01:00:30,322
>> I spent a lot of time alone.
732
01:00:30,452 --> 01:00:38,156
But for the first time,
it wasn't intolerable
733
01:00:38,286 --> 01:00:41,159
and even enjoyable at times.
734
01:00:41,289 --> 01:00:48,775
>> The healing I believe is in
bringing the heart into a state
735
01:00:48,906 --> 01:00:53,475
and vibrancy and taking off the
flakes of everyday life that
736
01:00:53,606 --> 01:01:00,526
puts limitations on how deep
one can feel love or forgiveness
737
01:01:00,657 --> 01:01:02,310
or gratitude.
738
01:01:02,441 --> 01:01:06,053
>> Ultimately, it's only about
that that we have all of that
739
01:01:06,184 --> 01:01:07,794
life quality.
740
01:01:07,925 --> 01:01:10,405
>> The measure is not how much
you can drink and how often
741
01:01:10,536 --> 01:01:13,147
and who you saw and
what you experienced.
742
01:01:13,278 --> 01:01:16,107
The measure is how
healthy are you.
743
01:01:16,237 --> 01:01:17,935
How healthy are
your relationships,
744
01:01:18,065 --> 01:01:21,416
your intimate relationships,
your family relationships,
745
01:01:21,547 --> 01:01:26,204
your friends, your community,
your society, your ecosystem?
746
01:01:26,334 --> 01:01:27,466
That is the measure of health.
747
01:01:31,470 --> 01:01:34,255
[music playing]
748
01:01:45,223 --> 01:01:51,055
>> My relationship with success
if before success for me was
749
01:01:51,185 --> 01:01:58,149
to meet the expectations of
people and my own expectation,
750
01:01:58,279 --> 01:02:02,936
now success has nothing to do
with the thrill of a victory.
751
01:02:03,067 --> 01:02:04,590
We are helping the community.
752
01:02:04,721 --> 01:02:06,113
Family is healthy.
753
01:02:06,244 --> 01:02:07,375
Your body's healthy.
754
01:02:07,506 --> 01:02:09,595
Your relationships are healthy.
755
01:02:09,726 --> 01:02:12,816
That's where my happiness is.
756
01:02:19,083 --> 01:02:22,260
Just like ayahuasca uses
a symbolic language,
757
01:02:22,390 --> 01:02:26,307
which is the visionary
world of your psych
758
01:02:26,438 --> 01:02:29,397
to convey certain
messages to you
759
01:02:29,528 --> 01:02:33,184
and use a symbolic language
which usually is inspired
760
01:02:33,314 --> 01:02:37,797
by the natural world,
to convey a vision
761
01:02:37,928 --> 01:02:42,846
and messages that
perhaps can facilitate
762
01:02:42,976 --> 01:02:46,632
an inner dialogue in the
viewer that may help arise
763
01:02:46,763 --> 01:02:50,157
a personal revelation
about interconnectedness,
764
01:02:50,288 --> 01:02:53,813
about being one with
nature, about the nature
765
01:02:53,944 --> 01:02:57,643
of consciousness, about
what it means to be human.
766
01:02:57,774 --> 01:03:15,226
>> [non-english speech]
767
01:03:15,356 --> 01:03:17,924
>> In terms of the
difference that it can make
768
01:03:18,055 --> 01:03:21,493
in the culture, when you
look at the corruption,
769
01:03:21,623 --> 01:03:25,584
the banking schemes, all
the propaganda in education,
770
01:03:25,714 --> 01:03:29,936
the fake media, and the
toxic food and the toxic
771
01:03:30,067 --> 01:03:32,025
pharmaceuticals, it's
everywhere you look.
772
01:03:32,156 --> 01:03:34,811
It just isn't human
beings being true to life.
773
01:03:39,076 --> 01:03:41,600
>> The Shipibo started
to see the world was--
774
01:03:41,730 --> 01:03:42,862
it really in need of healing.
775
01:03:42,993 --> 01:03:44,211
And their local villages.
776
01:03:44,342 --> 01:03:46,431
They're not really
moving around globally,
777
01:03:46,561 --> 01:03:49,303
but the information they were
getting within their ceremonies
778
01:03:49,434 --> 01:03:52,176
was that the Westerners
are going to come.
779
01:03:52,306 --> 01:03:54,526
Start sharing the medicine
so they can bring it forth.
780
01:03:54,656 --> 01:03:59,879
>> Ayahuasca is a powerful tool
for assisting the individual
781
01:04:00,010 --> 01:04:03,709
in actually finding that inner
truth and then living that
782
01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:05,058
truth.
783
01:04:05,189 --> 01:04:06,843
And as each of us do
that as individuals,
784
01:04:06,973 --> 01:04:09,715
it builds a culture where not
only can we support each other,
785
01:04:09,846 --> 01:04:11,760
but it becomes harder
and harder for those
786
01:04:11,891 --> 01:04:14,241
who aren't being true to
themselves to actually get away
787
01:04:14,372 --> 01:04:16,026
with it.
788
01:04:16,156 --> 01:04:18,942
>> I know for a fact couple
of years ago I would not be--
789
01:04:19,072 --> 01:04:21,596
I would not be able to
sit in front of a camera
790
01:04:21,727 --> 01:04:23,294
without a prosthetic arm.
791
01:04:23,424 --> 01:04:28,690
Today, I feel so much more free.
792
01:04:28,821 --> 01:04:30,257
And it doesn't mean
that I still don't
793
01:04:30,388 --> 01:04:33,695
get the looks or
awkward questions,
794
01:04:33,826 --> 01:04:41,616
but I feel like if I can do it
and I can be the stand, then
795
01:04:41,747 --> 01:04:46,621
I hope that it serves other
people as an encouragement
796
01:04:46,752 --> 01:04:49,842
in believing in themselves.
797
01:04:49,973 --> 01:04:52,062
>> [non-english speech]
798
01:04:58,720 --> 01:05:00,679
>> [non-english speech]
799
01:05:08,252 --> 01:05:11,995
>> These Indigenous people
are the bearers of the great
800
01:05:12,125 --> 01:05:15,346
mysteries of the past, and I
think we need to respect that
801
01:05:15,476 --> 01:05:18,784
there may be something to their
medical models that we can
802
01:05:18,915 --> 01:05:20,568
learn from.
803
01:05:20,699 --> 01:05:25,138
>> Ayahuasca, it's been used by
shamans for thousands of years.
804
01:05:25,269 --> 01:05:28,141
So they have their own paradigm,
and their own model about it.
805
01:05:28,272 --> 01:05:31,536
>> A spiritual practice
of ayahuasca ceremony,
806
01:05:31,666 --> 01:05:34,060
it is a form of
spiritual healing.
807
01:05:34,191 --> 01:05:36,410
And in that sense, it is a
form of spiritual practice.
808
01:05:36,541 --> 01:05:39,936
>> I like working with
people because I love being
809
01:05:40,066 --> 01:05:41,894
the witness of the
transformation,
810
01:05:42,025 --> 01:05:46,507
and there's no greater reward
than seeing somebody coming
811
01:05:46,638 --> 01:05:47,552
back to themselves.
812
01:05:51,034 --> 01:05:57,344
>> If my first time to Peru
was a vision at the top
813
01:05:57,475 --> 01:06:01,392
of the mountain, the
second time in Peru,
814
01:06:01,522 --> 01:06:04,699
she knocked me off the
mountain all the way down.
815
01:06:04,830 --> 01:06:08,486
It's been very
difficult at times,
816
01:06:08,616 --> 01:06:15,058
but the difference is I'm back
at the top of the mountain
817
01:06:15,188 --> 01:06:20,802
but with the experience
of climbing it.
818
01:06:20,933 --> 01:06:24,197
>> Ayahuasca is making
her way around the world,
819
01:06:24,328 --> 01:06:28,462
making her way to people
so this is happening.
820
01:06:28,593 --> 01:06:32,249
>> I think the spreading of
ayahuasca in the world has
821
01:06:32,379 --> 01:06:36,383
to do with a shifting
consciousness that is happening
822
01:06:36,514 --> 01:06:38,733
all throughout.
823
01:06:38,864 --> 01:06:44,217
I am very hopeful, and I believe
that ayahuasca and these master
824
01:06:44,348 --> 01:06:49,483
plants, they're going to
assist us in the shift.
825
01:06:49,614 --> 01:06:55,359
>> In one ceremony, the
mother showed me the Earth.
826
01:06:55,489 --> 01:06:59,102
And then from a
little spot in Peru,
827
01:06:59,232 --> 01:07:02,496
a tiny little light
emanated and then started
828
01:07:02,627 --> 01:07:05,630
shooting up towards
North America and then
829
01:07:05,760 --> 01:07:09,590
another and then another, and
it started covering the world.
830
01:07:09,721 --> 01:07:12,115
But then from
those other places,
831
01:07:12,245 --> 01:07:13,638
lights started emanating.
832
01:07:13,768 --> 01:07:16,771
And before you knew it,
there was this Earth
833
01:07:16,902 --> 01:07:22,516
that was covered in a completely
beautiful grid of light.
834
01:07:22,647 --> 01:07:24,953
And as I'm seeing
this beautiful thing,
835
01:07:25,084 --> 01:07:29,132
she whispers to me this is how
I'm going to change the world.
836
01:08:04,993 --> 01:08:07,909
[drumming]
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